December 11, 2025 • 38 mins
Legendary music producer and songwriter Jimmy Jam, who alongside Terry Lewis, worked with some of the biggest acts in music. He talks about the relationship between music and sports, the evolution of music, working with music icons, collaborations, and the best way to discover new artists in an oversaturated market. Jimmy Jam is working with 100 Billion Meals to produce "The Next Verse," a global music event inspired by We Are The World. Find out how you can watch and be a part of the December 16th event at 100BillionMeans.org | Plus, Rich has his betting picks for NFL Week 15, courtesy of DraftKings Sportsbook, CODE: CRSHOW
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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Speaker 2 (00:29):
I am very excited to talk about Week fifteen of
the NFL. I got some picks that uh, you know,
bull your silk sat on.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
These off my holiday socks. Offic yes, my stockings off.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Now, we have a very special guest today who happens
to be a music legend, a rock and Roll Hall
of Famer, but he's also a big time sports fan.
But get this, we welcome Jimmy Jam of Jimmy Jam
and Terry Lewis production fame, superstar record producer. But he's
worked with everybody from Prince Janet Jackson Boys to men
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and so on and so forth. He's got a big
project coming up. But Rich, we love stats.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Right pause the stat Can you give him the one
shot camera again? Look at how perfect your stubble is
on the bear. No, look at me, sideway sideways look
at oh my.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Dude, I do that myself, you know. I mean, yeah,
like that shit, that's me skills, perfect skills to pay
the bill that it comes to the clips in the race,
I'm like a sohan that was.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Something to marvel at him. No, thank you, back to Jimmy,
point out. God, I gotta get that call.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
I mean twenty three nominations eleven nominations for a Producer
of the Year. He is contributed to one hundred Gold,
Platinum and Diamonds Certified Records.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
The guy's done it all man.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Yeah, five time Grammy Award winner, Amazing Producer and uh,
I can't wait to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I'll tell you what. We'll get to our picks. We'll
talk some ooosball all that, but uh, spotty, do we
have them on zoom right now? Do you have the can?
Get the zoom up?
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
How are you man?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Thanks for your what's up?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Dude?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
How you doing good?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
To see we're good? Got the hat on and everything? Yo,
promo machine?
Speaker 5 (02:14):
You know, Well, here's here's the funny thing. You know
what I said about these hats? I said did. I said,
do you have these in black? And they said, oh no,
we can get you some in black, and I said, okay, cool.
And I guess Liz is one of our partners on this.
So I'm like, give me a black one because I'm
you know, I'm all black all the time.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yes, mine, how I roll?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Man, But they don't come in form I.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Can do that?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Way?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Man? Do I have.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
I usually? You know what's really funny is I normally
I normally have it right here next to me, which
reminds me where I probably left it in my car
because I went to an event last night. But I
have a ton of hats around me all the time,
by the way, because I'm, you know, a baseball cap guy.
So I got my support musician's hat. So this is
a car Center, Guitar Center foundation. So gotta gotta rep
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that I got my I got my Grammy, My Grammy.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
I gotta rock that one.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Gotta rock the Grammy cat, you know, because that's some
good stuff. Trying to think what else do I have
around here?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Here's actually my favorite one right now? Is this one
that'll make no sense to you. It says corn bread
on it. Cornbread is my ninety eight year old dad
and my very first gig was as a drummer at
twelve years old in his band.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
You know, I saw that. I saw that when we
were doing research. You know, let's get right into it
with no further ado. I mean, we're here with the
legend music producer, legend Jimmy Jam, everybody.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Jimmy Jam, Judge an over promised. Thanks for your time, man,
thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
No I gotta ask thirty one top ten songs. You're
doing this next verse fortieth anniversary and we of the
world inspired this. Give us, give us a scoop because
you got Bernod Mar's, Janet Dre, you got a lot
of your people involved. Man.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Yeah, Well what it is for me is, I'll tell
you it's an interesting thing. So back a long time ago,
there was a documentary that was going to be done
on us, and one of the people they interviewed in
the documentary was Quincy Jones. And this was probably twenty
twenty five years ago, and in that footage there's a
bunch of footage of my kids as little kids, and
I wanted to get that footage. So I called the
documentary director and I said, hey, can you get me
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that footage of my kids. So when he sent it
to me, the Quincy interview was on there, and Quincy
on this interview was basically saying, I love collaboration. We
are the world was the greatest collaboration ever. And then
he says, Jimmy and Terry understand that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
And when he said that, it was like wow, It's
almost like he's giving us instructions, like we need to
do that. So then the other thing that happened was
and I just happened to have it here. When I
got married to my wife thirty one years ago, we
asked everybody to bring us books, you know, bring me
a book, you know, to fill our library, that type
of thing. So one of the books we got was
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Tony Robbins Awaken then the Great Within, right, h the
Giant Within. So Tony Robbins is the guy that runs
one hundred billion meals, so he was the one that
came up with that. That book was actually from Quincy's
wife at our wedding. So there was all kinds of
weird little things that were kind of saying, we need
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to do this, and now's the time to do it.
And I don't even know how to explain it, but
God's alignment or whatever however you want to explain it.
And that's how we got into it.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
So it's inspired by the fortieth anniversary of We Are
the World. It's a new song, the next Verse creating
a new song December sixteenth, and people could get involved
one hundred billion meals dot org. We're gonna talk more
about it. But I know you're a big sports fan too,
so I want to start by asking you, you know,
how would you describe the mutual respect or relationship between
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music and sports because people like to separate them and separate.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Big go hand in hand.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Yeah, And I know you're a big Timberwolves fan. I
know you're a big sports fan and music guy. How
do they go together in your mind?
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Oh, they absolutely go together. I mean to me, if
you think about it, the whole atmosphere of any sporting
event is always the music. Whether it's We Will Rock You,
whether it's uh dun dun dun, dun, dun dun dun.
I mean, it's like right, I mean, it's always about
that those kinds of things. A matter of fact, Escapade
Janet's song Escapade was really because she wanted a song
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that you could play like at a basketball game or
something to get everybody wrapped up. So it was almost
like sports and music totally go together. And it's interesting
because as a sporting fan, like the one thing I
would do, like back in the day when we'd go
to all the Timberwolves games, but we'd work at the
studio up until the game. We'd go to the game
and then we go back to the studio and work,
and it was like, but that was our one kind
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of thing that we love to do. And we literally
would do our schedule around when there was gonna be
a Timberwolf game, Like if the Timberwolves were gonna be
in New York, we'd be like, is there something we
can do in New York on this day? Or Atlanta
or Sacramento or where. We would just go everywhere and
do it. And we were so bad back in the
day though. I remember the refs would come up to
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us and they just go, you guys are really loyal,
you know, because we'd be on the road getting our
butt whooped and stuff. So but yeah, man, sports and
music totally goes together, and you think about it, people
that do sports want to do music. People to do music,
want to do sports.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
It always seems that way, man, And for people who
don't know. You know, Rich alluded to it before, but Jimmy,
jam and Terry Lewis legends who forked with everybody, everyone
under the moon. He mentioned Janet Jackson. But you know,
we used to see rocking your suit and all the
videos and the hat and everything, so.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Well, I'll forget all the people he's worked with. Our
Boston friend Scott said he's the best Timberwolves fan there is.
He goes, he goes Jimmy. Jim might be the super
fan of all super fans with the t Wolves. I
mean when you see those players, some of these is
it cool when some of the younger cats acknowledge what
you've done for music, because these kids we forget sometimes
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twenty something.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Yeah, no, a lot of them have no idea. Somebody
asked me. So I was fortunate enough to, you know,
back in the early days, I got to know KG
really well and became sort of a mentor for him.
And as a matter of fact, he actually married my
wife's sister, so he was my brother in law for
a while. And he has two beautiful kids, one of
them is actually going to Michigan on no volleyballow. So
(08:25):
very cool. So you know, all in the family there,
but yeah, the newer guys because somebody asked me about, hey,
do you know Aunt, Do you have you guys spoken?
And I said, no, I don't think Aunt really knows
who I am. But I'm I'm a total fan. And
I got to tell you one of the thrills of
my life was a couple of years ago in Denver
when we won that Game seven there in Denver, and
that was against the Nuggets. That was the best, you know,
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So yeah, I still am a fan. At one point
in time, we were such fans. At one point we
tried to buy the team. This was a while back
when they were trying to move them to New Orleans.
This is back probably eighty seven ish eighty eight, something
like that, and they were trying to move the team,
and Terry and I put together a group with Janet,
and we had Janet, we had Quincy, we had Denzel Washington.
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We had a whole group of folks and we were
going to buy the team. And then Glenn Taylor came
in and bought the team, and they said, you want
to be a part of the team and I said, no, said,
we just wanted the team to stay. That was that
was our goal and it all worked out really cool.
But no diehard Timberwolves fan loved the new team. We
got to figure it out. But most of the teams
this year got if you're not you know, okay, see.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Okay, see everybody they can to lose more than one game.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
Geez, by goodness, that's that's the start there. Off too
is crazy, but it'll it'll you know, some injuries will hit.
There will be some things that hit to turn that around.
And we know we've seen enough basketball to know that
at the beginning of the season, it's nice to get
off to a nice start. The thing that gets dangerous
is that if you don't, if you only have a
few wins, and let's say that record at all time
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record is in, you know, how much do you go
for that versus you know what, No, we need to
wrest the guys and do that. So that'll be interesting
to see how they deal with that if they continue
to have the amount of success that they do.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Uh, Jimmy, jim, I got to ask back in the
day you brought up Quincy that documentary we Are the
World Where you saw he just had the respect of
every big name. They're all in the same room. The
story behind We Are the World is amazing. Nowadays technology
has made things a little easier or has it heard
it or both? Like what's your thoughts on how you
(10:27):
could dial up a zoom session or back in the day,
like even in broadcasting used the racks of equipment. We
could do a broadcast from like the beach with a
little machine. Now, like, has technology helped or hurt?
Speaker 5 (10:38):
It's it's changed it. I think it's your opinion on
whether it's it's better or not as good. Yeah, the
thing about We Are the World was, first of all,
they had a moment where everybody knew they had to
be there and in order to take part. And nowadays
we you know, we have people coming in we're going
to record when we do our recording of it, We're
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literally bringing in people from you know, Janets in London,
Andrea Bocelli's in I don't even know where he's at,
Italy probably or somewhere like that. I mean, we're going
to be bringing in people from all over the place
in order to do it. They can't be there. I
mean we'll probably have thirty five to forty people actually
in the place, but then we'll be able to do it.
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So the technology is a good thing in finishing what
we're doing because right now people are sending things back
and forth. Like I literally I just got off of
a zoom today with Sammy Hagar who's in Hawaii, and
he wrote me a beautiful lyric and then he said cool.
And then I got a call from Duran Duran who said, hey,
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can you send us at Sammy Hagar lyric? We want
to try that in our version that we're doing. It's like, okay, cool, wow.
So those are the kinds of things, those are the
kinds of things that's happening. And then I got a
literally a FaceTime from doctor Dre who doesn't live that
far from me, and he just said, hey, man, and
he's showed me a studio. He said, man, we got
to mix this here. We got to mix this at
the studio here. So it's been just a great thing
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to bring everybody together. But we've been able to do
it over zooms and technology in order to get people
together in order to write the song. And that's been
a kind of a cool thing.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
I think thank you again. We're here with Jimmy Jam
over promised. There's always an ever changing landscape of sports
and new stars and new things going on, but the
same applies in music. How do you stand out as
an artist today? And how do you feel about the
oversaturation of the music that we get because there's new
stuff all the time. How's that changed for you?
Speaker 5 (12:33):
It's tougher to find things that you like. I started
doing a playlist for people that would always say I
don't hear any good new music, and it's like, yeah,
because it's a lot tougher to find. But I always
finds that I love. But yeah, it's definitely quantity over quality.
So if you think about it, like, well, I'll try
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to make I'm the King of the bad analogies, but
I'll try to make I don't know, I might be.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
I say that title Jimmy Jam really really, I'm the
king of bad analogies.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
But going so, I was gonna so, I was gonna say.
One of the examples I use is because of the
way the access that people have, Like so you used
to in order to even go in a recording studio,
to even touch a board or to do any of
those things. There was a certain protocol that needed to happen.
You had to have, you know, some sort of training,
or you had to have you know, somebody at least,
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you know, a word of mouth that oh no, this
guy's really cool and something.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
So you had to be vouched for or you had
to be read at the right Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
Yeah, so that had that had to be there. So
if you think about that, it's the same way I
think about a football field. So what if everybody that's
sitting in the stands watching the game decides, you know what,
I can go on the field. I can catch a ball,
I can throw a ball. You know I can do that,
Jay Listen.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
We feel the same way as broadcasters. We've been in
radio and broadcasting radio TV for twenty years. They always say,
what a podcasts? And you know, buttholes have in common.
Most people have them and everyone has them when they think,
you know, because I mean, who doesn't have a podcast now, right?
I mean, so we get it like.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
That, feel free to use.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
That's the thing. It doesn't necessarily make it better. It
just means that more people are Yeah, everyone's going yeah,
So how do you stand out though? Like, you know,
how do you stand out from the rest when there's
so much of it. Yeah, I just think you have
to figure out a way to cut to kind of
cut through. And I think people are you watch the
way people use, you know, social media now they use Instagram.
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I'd probably do more music discovery on Instagram than any
other place. Radio, though, is still important in its own
way because it's a curation system. I tell people all
the time, particularly DJs, that it's so important to you
remember the first time you hear a song, but if
somebody introduces you to that song. To me, there's a
specialness of the people that present that song to you.
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So I mean, I remember a certain DJ, you know,
whether it's you know, back in my day, it's Donnie
Simpson or somebody like that saying hey, here's a new
one from so and so, and it's like, oh shoot,
it's like a friend telling you. And I think that
part of it is really important. So I think the
curation system hopefully continue to improve so that people who
don't have time to search for stuff all the time,
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you can kind of hand them and say, hey, this
is gonna be good. You're gonna like this, and that
kind of thing. But yeah, it's tough. It's just a
lot tougher to find stuff. But when you find something
you like, like for instance, there's a girl, Olivia Dean,
who's my favorite new artist right now.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
So Olivia Dean.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
One of the things I did with her I went
to see her in Nashville a couple of weeks ago.
But I went and found out all the people who
she liked and all the people that influenced her. And
there was a bunch of people I discovered just because
I liked her. I liked what she was listening to
and the people that she so that to me is
a good way to connect. When you find an artist
you really like, see who they're listening to and who
they like, and a lot of times you'll be aligned.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Very cool and Jimmy, when you were saying that, I
pictured you as a little kid listening to the radio.
Was there a moment for you when you thought, yeah,
this is what I want to do. Was there a
song or a moment you could take us back to
where your parents playing you an album or are you
listening to the radio? Was there a moment or a
song that did it for you?
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Wow? Oh well, okay, well I'll tell you that I
don't know there's a song on the radio that necessary
Well maybe it was because it was on the radio.
But I tell you one of my early earliest memories
was we were at like a family reunion or something,
and back end probably sixty six ish, I will say,
there was an album called It was called The Supremes
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sing Holland dojer Holland, and it was a gold album cover.
And I remember looking at the album cover and I
said to my dad, I said, what is Holland dojer Holland?
Because I'm thinking Holland as a country. Yeah, and he said, no,
Holland dozer Holland are the songwriters? And I said the
songwriters and he said yeah. He said, so you know,
if you get a seven inch record and there's the
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artist name, but if you look between the parentheses, there's
some other names. Those are the people that wrote the song.
And when I looked at those names, Holland dojer Holland,
I was like, okay. So then when I started getting records,
I would always look for the Holland dojer Holland. I
would always look between the I read the seas at
the name. And what that did was made me become
or want to become a songwriter because I never felt
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I could sing good. I can't sing good. We'll just
put that out there. I sing terribly, but I can
show other people what to sing. I know what it
should be right, And so when I get the chance
to be in the studio with him. But that was
the thing. And then the other thing that solidified that
I told I mentioned, you know Cornbread. I drummed for him,
you know, when I was twelve years old. He's my
first professional gig. But when I met Terry Lewis that
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same year, which was nineteen seventy three, Terry already had
a drummer in the band he had, and he said,
you should play keyboards. And I said why and he said,
because your dad plays keyboards, you should be able to play.
And I said, oh, okay. So Terry was the one
that switched me over to keyboards. And the drummer that
he had was Jellyban Johnson, who unfortunately just passed away
from the Time, the drummer from the Time. But literally,
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that foundation of those groups back then became the Time
and Prince and all of those Minneapolis groups that led
to us being able to speak to you guys today.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Amazing And by the way, it all times to the
other because it wasn't Prince supposed to be on We
Are the World and he just didn't show up. Sign
he did do his own thing.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
Yeah, that's a that's a great parallel though, by the way,
So now he'll he'll get to be on it now
because of us. Because when Prince pass passed away, which
will be ten years this coming year, one of the
things we said is there's not really a decision we
make without thinking about what would Prince do, because he
was such a mentor to us and really taught us
work ethic. It's the biggest thing that he taught us.
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But this is an example of all the people. Chila
is going to be on it, and Chileae was part
of the original, but she's going to be on this.
Stevie Wonder was part of the original. He's going to
be on this. So yeah, we do have some of
the people that are there from the original. Wow, it's
going to be kind of cool now.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Jimmy jam hanging on over promised with Kevin and Rich
I'm just fascinated by how technology ai and this this
is sort of, uh, you know, something we have to
acknowledge in the world the music. I think there's something's
so beautiful about songwriting and what goes into it and
you know, your experiences that craft the great lyrics of
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a song. Unfortunately, now you could just pop into Suno
or AI and just type in I want a song
about a hole in my sock in the in you know,
in country or a hip hop and it pushes it out.
What are your thoughts on this technology is it? Is
it just shitty for the music industry or do you
use it at times if you're missing something or what.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
So my feeling about AI is that overall the technology
is great. The problem comes with the compensation and permission.
So I think you should be compensated. If you're what
you're giving to AI. You know, what's your being scraped,
you should be compensated for that. And also it shouldn't
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be done without your permission. You should give permission to
do it. But I'll give you an example. There's a
couple of I won't mention names, but there's a couple
of you know, older artists that we're working with right
now where we needed to you know, undo or not undue,
but redo a piece of a vocal and we could
call them back and say, hey, can you come back
and redo this vocal, or we can just redo the
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vocal based on what we already have from them. And
I think in that case, as long as we have
the permission of the artist to do it, then to me,
it becomes a great tool. And so for me it's
a great tool. But it can certainly be used in
the wrong way, and if the people aren't being compensated
for it or ask their permission, that's where to me
it gets. It gets to be a bad thing.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Jimmy, I'm thinking back at the original of the World
and you mentioned some of the names.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Stevie Wonder, I'm thinking Huey Lewis.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
I'm thinking about that time, an apathetic Bob Dylan, he
was just there to hang prin.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
Yeah, Lionel actually, Lionel. By the way, Lionel's actually been
very cool behind the scenes with this. He's he's kind
of mentored me behind the scenes on on what to
watch out for and those types of things. I want
to instrumental.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Oh, that's awesome, man.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
I wanted to ask you about the mystique of celebrity
back then versus the accessibility of celebrity today, Like today,
we need to know everything about everyone on social media
and everything. Back then, it was such a wall between
the fans and the celebrities. They were like godlike to us.
You know, how have you seen that change? How does
it affect what you do? And I know Rich has
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a follow up, The Evolution of Celebrity.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it has definitely changed. Yeah, because people, well,
I remember when, you know, I remember when Twitter and
all that stuff first started and people would go here,
I am at the grocery store, and I thought, who
cares everybody?
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Yeah, And then of course we were wrong. I thought
the same thing, like, I'm totally totally wrong. I mean
a turkey salad sandwich. Yeah, who gives us ship?
Speaker 5 (21:52):
Exactly? No, that's and that's what people want to see.
So it's interesting once again, I think, you know, listen,
I think it's a huge pendulum swing that goes back
and forth. I think a lot of the newer artists
I'm noticing now are much more. Some are very honest
in their music and what they do, and some are
very closed off. I love the fact I thought that
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Janet was one of the people that when we did control,
which is forty years ago next year to be forty
years of control. That the idea of someone just kind
of telling their story on their records. And I remember
when she didn't do a lot of interviews, and she
still doesn't really do a lot of interviews. But I
would always say, if you ever want to know anything
about what Janet's thinking, just listen to her records. So
(22:32):
I think a lot of artists now are beginning to
put their thoughts, you know, if you think about a
Chapel Roan or a Billie Eilish or a lot of
these newer artists are putting their feelings on their records,
which then they don't have to do as much press
or as much you know, spotlight thing. So I think
I'm seeing a little bit of a less accessible thing
with some of the newer artists. But I you know,
(22:56):
once again, the choices are all there. You can kind
of do it the way, and some people love the
cameras on. I'll tell you one quick story. When we
were doing Spice Girls. Now this was twenty years ago,
thirty years ago, probably in their heyday. I remember we
went to London to do it and there was one
vocal we couldn't get with with Posh Posh spice. There
was one vocal we couldn't get and they remember they
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brought in a crew of people to film us, and
as soon as the spot all the bright lights of
the camera, I don't figure we're not going to get anything.
At this point, she lit up and she killed the
vocal and I told the engineer record record, you know,
and we caught it. But what was interesting about it
was it showed different personalities. Some people want to be
very closed off and they don't want to be in
front of it. Some people, when the bright lights come on,
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that's when they shine and so and I'm sure that
it's the same thing in sports. There's certain people that
are great practice players and they get in the game
with the lights and the crowd and they just can't
do it.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Jimmy, Jimmy, I'm telling you, not the name drop, but
Jerry Rice once told us that he goes, you'd be amazed.
What what said. There's some practice players where you're like,
oh my god, this guy's amazing. Lights go on, they
turn off, and he would say that, and then there's
the opposite, the opposite. He goes, I'm not the fastest guy,
but in a game. No one's catching me. You see
that across everything to me, he said, Posh spice. I'm thinking,
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how how adorable are her and David Beckham together? They're
grossly adorable together. You know. I had a question about uh,
like a good hypothetical we've discussed for a while. But
before I get to that, I do have a question
about Lionel Richie. It was he because when you were
talking about how he was helpful to you, watching that
documentary about We Are the World made me realize that.
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Like I was a kid of the eighties, I didn't
realize what a megastar, the charisma, and then you see
him judging on American Idol, Like is he maybe one
of the most charismatic, amazing people ever. Like Lionel Richie,
I saw a whole new perspect for him just by
watching that documentary.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
Yeah, he is. And exactly what you see and what
comes across in the documentary is exactly who he is
as a person. He is the most humble but great
stories and he I remember when we got nominated for
an Academy Award back in ninety three for again for
Janet Song, and I remember he took me to lunch
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and he kind of walked me through the process. This
is how it's going to be, this is what you know,
and we ended up we ended up not winning. I
think Bruce Springsteen might have beat us out, but you know, hey,
it's Bruce. But anyway, it was like he was so
supportive and so cool, and we've struck up a friendship
and then we've been aligned in a lot of in
a lot of interesting things. When he got his star
on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, the person the people
(25:30):
that inducted him was myself and Jay Leno, and we're
actually recording the event that we're going to do the
recording event on the old Jay Leno stage, So there's
kind of a weird alignment of things there. And also
Lionel Ritchie and myself went into the Rock and Roll
Hall of Fame the same year, so we're kind of
aligned in a whole lot of different ways. But Lionel
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is a superstar in any possible imagination as a friend,
as a mentor, and as a singer as a songwriter.
I mean, he's got it all.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Speaking of superstars again, we have the great Jimmy jam
here on over promised. He's worked with every Superstar under
the Moon has so many songs, songs for days. And
you know, since you're so connected to the Jackson's Janet
Jackson in particular, what are your thoughts on the thriller
movie coming out.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
I'm looking forward to it. I haven't. I was supposed
to go to a not a screening, but I was
supposed to go to one of the tapings when they
were taping.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
She saw the trailer though, right, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,
the trailer.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
The trailer looks good. I like the way the trailer looks.
But I but I was supposed to actually go to
the film set and and see some of the stuff
and Entron Fuqua, who's directing the movie, as a friend
from way back. But I'm excited to see it. I
really am. And I'm you know, Michael's incredible. I mean
the fact I can pinch myself that Terry and I
got to work with Michael and Prince. I mean, I
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think we're probably the only people that that's you know,
happened to and got to do a duet with Michael
and Janet together the scream do it.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Oh man, I hate to put you on a spot,
but were you impressed by one more than the other.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
In different ways. They were. The Prince as a musician,
he's the greatest musician ever. To me, you could pick
up anybody's instrument and play it better than them. You know.
He just was that kind of dude.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
And he can play basketball.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
He was a really good basketball player. He was. He
was really good.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
I'm telling you.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
He was like Steph Curry man. He had handles. He
was serious. He was serious. And Michael just embodied music.
Michael wasn't necessarily a musician, but he could tell the
musicians what to play and make it, you know, really beautiful.
So to me, each in their own way, they were amazing.
Now they weren't. They weren't compatible, Like they never worked together.
(27:48):
And I don't think they would have been compatible, because
I can tell you Prince was literally start a song
and ended the same day. It's done, it's mixed, it's over.
Michael would be I remember when we did Scream and
he'd go, Okay, we have to challenge ourselves to really
make sure that we have the right lyric and it's
like okay. And after about two or three days of
challenging ourselves, Terry said, hey, man, the Lyric's fine, let's go.
(28:12):
Yeah he was overthinking it. Yeah, and that's right. He
overthought everything. But that was where Quincy came in as
such an important thing. And if you think about think
about Michael's tutelage. He started off with Barry Gordy at Motown,
he went to Gamble and Huff in Philadelphia, and then
he went to Quincy Jones. I mean that kind of musical.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Education.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
Nobody has that like that. So yeah, he's an amazing dude.
So to me, they're both equally good. I mean, obviously
Prince is the one. They made it possible for us
to even work with Michael Jackson, So I mean, I'm
always gonna Princes my guy.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Nice. Now, Jimmy, jim, here's the question, not to be
prisoners of the moment or not to glorify the past. Yes,
when you see what's happening with Taylor Swift and the
Swifties around the world, is it comparable to Michael Jackson
in the eighties? Is it fair to make that comparison?
We often debate that. We often debate like is it
the closest thing? Is it on the same level? I mean,
(29:08):
who would know better than.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
You it's the closest thing because it goes beyond the
music that she makes. It's about the way she affects culture.
The fact that you know, people will tune into a
Chiefs game who won't watch a football game. So when
you think about that, and if you want to talk
about that, I don't know, you can see it. I
have amongst my bracelets I do have. I do Taylor Swift.
(29:32):
That got my Taylor Swift bracelet. I gotlet that my
daughter made me.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Well, I don't know if it's a fair question then,
because he's a swiftie.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Michael Jackson, I gotta listen. I'm old. I've been around
a long time man, So I'm friends. I'm friends with everybody.
But I know, I respect Taylor. I love what she does,
and also she looks out for music makers. I also
respect that. You know, a lot of the decisions she's
made with the way she releases her albums, the fact
that they're on vinyl, the fact that she called out
(30:03):
a bunch of the streaming companies and said, no, you
won't put my music on here for free, and that
kind of thing. Yeah, so I like I like Taylor
a lot.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Hey, Jimmy Jim. You you work so closely with Janet
and it's been over twenty years now. I always thought
that she got such unnecessary shit for the Her and
Timberlake halftime show. When you see where society is now
as far as you know anything, right, how we like
showing a nipple, Like do you think like it really
took its toll based on like something so insignificant when
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you look back.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
Yeah, it was a terrible It was a terrible time,
and it really changed a whole lot of things. Now.
The good news is obviously she survived it and really
thrived on it. I think it became almost a rallying point,
particularly for her fans, which was good. And but yeah,
I mean it's interesting that the other irony, there's all
kind of little ironies to it, but one is that
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actually the head of the FCC at that point was
Colin Powell's son, and Janet had just devoted a bunch
of tour receipts or a tour you know, income to
his organization. And I can't remember what it was called,
but literally the concert ticket money was going to Colin
Powell's organization.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
And it's the fact that the Sun was the one
that shut her down effectively, but it changed the way
that you know, and and she was you know, banned
from the Grammys. But the only reason she was banned
from the Grammys was it wasn't the Grammys. It was
the fact that CBS, who had the Grammys, they were
the ones that said, no, we don't want her on
the show. But it just happened that the super Bowl
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was on CBS that year. If the super Bowl would
have been on another network, it wouldn't have been a thing.
So there was all kinds of interesting little, you know,
things about it. But I think we've all learned from it,
and I think that you know, once again, she's survived
it and thrived in it.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Yeah. I just always thought such unnecessary nonsense because I mean,
it's Janet's a legend. And I was like that one
little moment, like looking back, it's like we cared about that.
I don't know, just it always bothered me.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
Well but see, but that's once again when technology comes
into it. Because we never had the technology to freeze
frame a thing on a TV. YouTube didn't really exist
or wasn't you know, it had just started off. Yeah,
and all of a sudden that became a thing. It's like, oh,
you'll see it on YouTube, you know. Yeah, if we
all would have had stock in it, it would have been great.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
So now back in then, true, we could talk to
you all day.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
I want to thank you for your time again, Jimmy
jam On over promised Fox Sports Radio, Cavino and Rich Now,
can you tell us how other people can get involved
with one hundred billion meals dot org?
Speaker 2 (32:38):
How do people go there? Right? Yeah, but you can
actually zoom.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
In, like you could be part of the session and everything, right, well, yeah,
tell you about it.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
Yeah, I can totally. You can totally be part of
the session. So you can join for free on zoom
if you make a ten dollars donation, which is forty
four meals, it gets you a little elevated access type
of thing. And then there's also what's called the Life
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(33:09):
please join us on the sixteenth of December, It'll probably
be around eleven o'clock Pacific time, and you can be
the fly on the wall as we kind of try
to recreate the in the inspiration of We Are the
World with a ton of different stars not only in
the place but also around the world.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
On Zoom Wow. Jimmy Jam of course a guy that
knows everyone Jimmy before you go, Is there one rando artist?
We were looking at the list of people you've worked
with and it's just endless. I'd spend ten minutes just
naming them all. Is there someone that you have an
oddly fun relationship with that most people want to know,
Like Yo, you click so amazingly with hill ooh wow,
(33:53):
like like an odd couple like wow, would you believe
Jimmy Jam's pals with Blank?
Speaker 5 (33:58):
Oh? Wow? Yeah, prob man. I'm trying to think that's
really funny because normally people go, who haven't you worked with?
Who you want to work with?
Speaker 2 (34:09):
That's normally the question.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
Who is Wow, dude, I've had You know what, when
I come back on the show, if I get invited
that teaser, I'll think about. I'll have to think about
who that is. That's like a weird you know partner
that I oh, oh yeah, okay, I'll tell you when
that comes to mind. I'll tell you who comes to mine.
So last year for my birthday, or not for my birthday,
(34:32):
but a couple of years ago on my birthday. And
the guy's name is slipping my mind, so forgive me.
But there was a DJ that was getting a star
on the Walk of Fame and I had met him
through some people at the Stern Show and stuff, and
they said, he said would you come out? And I
said cool, and so I came out. Star ceremony happened
to be on my birthday. And when he goes on stage,
(34:53):
he starts talking and then he goes, oh, Jimmy Jams
here today, it's his birthday. Let's sing Happy birthday to him,
and every buddy starts singing. Sitting to my left was
Billy Idle. Billy Idyl is yelling in my ear, happy
birth with accent and we're now and we're now friends.
(35:13):
She has a documentary. Yeah, and I just hosted actually
an event at the Grammy Museum where they showed a
screening of his movie and all of that, and so yeah,
Billy Idol is like a buddy.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Now that's so cool thee Yeah, Jimmy jam what a
pleasure talking to you again.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
People can find that all this stuff at one hundred
billion meals Dot org at one hundred billion meals.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
On December sixteenth, you could be there, Joy on zoom
and thank you again for your time, thanks for being
on over promised Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
And we'll take you up.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
On that rain day. We'll hang out. We'll do it
again a rain day. That's it, right day, rain day.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Thank you, Jimmy Jam.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
Thank you guys, Thank you man. All right, thanks again
to Jimmy Jam.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
How good is that?
Speaker 3 (35:56):
That was really cool?
Speaker 4 (35:57):
Appreciate your time and hope you guys enjoyed that legend
musical legend right there.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Now it's time to get down to business Week fifteen
of the NFL. Three quick picks. Let's lock these in.
I actually really like these, No disrespect to the Bills,
but not so fast, Patriots. The Patriots beat the Bills
earlier this year. Hard to beat a team twice, especially
division team that you have such a rivalry with. Now,
(36:22):
Josh Allen showed a little heart last week in that
snow game against the Bengals. So I just like the
Bills money line, they're playing in New England. But to
think that the Patriots beat them twice in a year,
that would almost like clinch a division for them up
not so fast. So I like the Bills money line.
Just win the game.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
I'm not saying you, but I feel like the general, you,
the collective, you likes to downplay the Patriots too, though
that is true.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Drake May, We'll see. How about this? The Rams out
here in La, put them up, Put them up. The
Lion's got some courage, wicked style. They're five and a
half point underdogs. Now I'm not saying they're gonna come
to LA and be the Rams, who I still think
are arguably the best team in the NFC, but they
showed some freaking heart last week Thursday Night against the Cowboys.
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They have a shorter the Rams have a shorter rest.
The Cowboys Lions game gave the Lions a little extra
rest time. So even if they don't win, I like
them to keep it close. So Lions plus five and
a half. But bam, lock that in. Even if they
don't win, they just need to keep it close. And
what have they got? Did Ain'tkoius? And this is a
(37:29):
simple one. I'm calling this the old This is the
teaser bet of the week. Maybe not double digits, but
definitely a Tuddy. The forty nine Ers and Seahawks, two
teams headed for the playoffs. In my opinion, they're playing
shitty teams. The forty nine Ers are playing the Titans
two and ten. The Niners are twelve and a half
point favorites. I'm not sure they'll win by double digits,
(37:51):
but they'll certainly win by a touchdown. Right, So Niners
minus six and a half. And as much as I
love the story of like Yo, is it gonna be?
Philip Rivers, Who's it's gonna be? The Cults have to
travel to Seattle without a quarterback yet lock in the
Seahawks minus five and a half. They're eleven and a
half points favorites. But I, you know, maybe not double digits.
(38:11):
Maybe there's a miracle, But I like the two Western
Conference NFC West teams to win big here.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
I like you.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
So spots say it, screenshot it, Josh Allen Detroit and
some NFC West domine shall And that's your week fifteen locks.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
All right, Well, you remember to follow us Covino and
Rich FSR on YouTube. Check out our show Monday through Friday.
Thanks again to Jimmy Jam shout out to my Grandma.
She was a hell of a basketball player. Broita, there
you go, Tita, thank you.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Hey, we'll see guys tomorrow. Rima, there you baby, see
you in the over Promised Land. Good Bye, Peace,
Happy holidays, and welcome to a very special Covino and
Rich over promised. We're from Fox Sports Radio Monday through Friday,
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(00:27):
him the joy of Covino and Rich.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I am very excited to talk about Week fifteen of
the NFL. I got some picks that uh, you know,
bull your silk sat on.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
These off my holiday socks. Offic yes, my stockings off.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Now, we have a very special guest today who happens
to be a music legend, a rock and Roll Hall
of Famer, but he's also a big time sports fan.
But get this, we welcome Jimmy Jam of Jimmy Jam
and Terry Lewis production fame, superstar record producer. But he's
worked with everybody from Prince Janet Jackson Boys to men
(01:05):
and so on and so forth. He's got a big
project coming up. But Rich, we love stats.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Right pause the stat Can you give him the one
shot camera again? Look at how perfect your stubble is
on the bear. No, look at me, sideway sideways look
at oh my.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Dude, I do that myself, you know. I mean, yeah,
like that shit, that's me skills, perfect skills to pay
the bill that it comes to the clips in the race,
I'm like a sohan that was.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Something to marvel at him. No, thank you, back to Jimmy,
point out. God, I gotta get that call.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
I mean twenty three nominations eleven nominations for a Producer
of the Year. He is contributed to one hundred Gold,
Platinum and Diamonds Certified Records.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
The guy's done it all man.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Yeah, five time Grammy Award winner, Amazing Producer and uh,
I can't wait to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I'll tell you what. We'll get to our picks. We'll
talk some ooosball all that, but uh, spotty, do we
have them on zoom right now? Do you have the can?
Get the zoom up?
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
How are you man?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Thanks for your what's up?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Dude?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
How you doing good?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
To see we're good? Got the hat on and everything? Yo,
promo machine?
Speaker 5 (02:14):
You know, Well, here's here's the funny thing. You know
what I said about these hats? I said did. I said,
do you have these in black? And they said, oh no,
we can get you some in black, and I said, okay, cool.
And I guess Liz is one of our partners on this.
So I'm like, give me a black one because I'm
you know, I'm all black all the time.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yes, mine, how I roll?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Man, But they don't come in form I.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Can do that?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Way?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Man? Do I have.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
I usually? You know what's really funny is I normally
I normally have it right here next to me, which
reminds me where I probably left it in my car
because I went to an event last night. But I
have a ton of hats around me all the time,
by the way, because I'm, you know, a baseball cap guy.
So I got my support musician's hat. So this is
a car Center, Guitar Center foundation. So gotta gotta rep
(03:03):
that I got my I got my Grammy, My Grammy.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
I gotta rock that one.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Gotta rock the Grammy cat, you know, because that's some
good stuff. Trying to think what else do I have
around here?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Here's actually my favorite one right now? Is this one
that'll make no sense to you. It says corn bread
on it. Cornbread is my ninety eight year old dad
and my very first gig was as a drummer at
twelve years old in his band.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
You know, I saw that. I saw that when we
were doing research. You know, let's get right into it
with no further ado. I mean, we're here with the
legend music producer, legend Jimmy Jam, everybody.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Jimmy Jam, Judge an over promised. Thanks for your time, man,
thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
No I gotta ask thirty one top ten songs. You're
doing this next verse fortieth anniversary and we of the
world inspired this. Give us, give us a scoop because
you got Bernod Mar's, Janet Dre, you got a lot
of your people involved. Man.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Yeah, Well what it is for me is, I'll tell
you it's an interesting thing. So back a long time ago,
there was a documentary that was going to be done
on us, and one of the people they interviewed in
the documentary was Quincy Jones. And this was probably twenty
twenty five years ago, and in that footage there's a
bunch of footage of my kids as little kids, and
I wanted to get that footage. So I called the
documentary director and I said, hey, can you get me
(04:19):
that footage of my kids. So when he sent it
to me, the Quincy interview was on there, and Quincy
on this interview was basically saying, I love collaboration. We
are the world was the greatest collaboration ever. And then
he says, Jimmy and Terry understand that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
And when he said that, it was like wow, It's
almost like he's giving us instructions, like we need to
do that. So then the other thing that happened was
and I just happened to have it here. When I
got married to my wife thirty one years ago, we
asked everybody to bring us books, you know, bring me
a book, you know, to fill our library, that type
of thing. So one of the books we got was
(04:57):
Tony Robbins Awaken then the Great Within, right, h the
Giant Within. So Tony Robbins is the guy that runs
one hundred billion meals, so he was the one that
came up with that. That book was actually from Quincy's
wife at our wedding. So there was all kinds of
weird little things that were kind of saying, we need
(05:20):
to do this, and now's the time to do it.
And I don't even know how to explain it, but
God's alignment or whatever however you want to explain it.
And that's how we got into it.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
So it's inspired by the fortieth anniversary of We Are
the World. It's a new song, the next Verse creating
a new song December sixteenth, and people could get involved
one hundred billion meals dot org. We're gonna talk more
about it. But I know you're a big sports fan too,
so I want to start by asking you, you know,
how would you describe the mutual respect or relationship between
(05:51):
music and sports because people like to separate them and separate.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Big go hand in hand.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Yeah, And I know you're a big Timberwolves fan. I
know you're a big sports fan and music guy. How
do they go together in your mind?
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Oh, they absolutely go together. I mean to me, if
you think about it, the whole atmosphere of any sporting
event is always the music. Whether it's We Will Rock You,
whether it's uh dun dun dun, dun, dun dun dun.
I mean, it's like right, I mean, it's always about
that those kinds of things. A matter of fact, Escapade
Janet's song Escapade was really because she wanted a song
(06:26):
that you could play like at a basketball game or
something to get everybody wrapped up. So it was almost
like sports and music totally go together. And it's interesting
because as a sporting fan, like the one thing I
would do, like back in the day when we'd go
to all the Timberwolves games, but we'd work at the
studio up until the game. We'd go to the game
and then we go back to the studio and work,
and it was like, but that was our one kind
(06:47):
of thing that we love to do. And we literally
would do our schedule around when there was gonna be
a Timberwolf game, Like if the Timberwolves were gonna be
in New York, we'd be like, is there something we
can do in New York on this day? Or Atlanta
or Sacramento or where. We would just go everywhere and
do it. And we were so bad back in the
day though. I remember the refs would come up to
(07:09):
us and they just go, you guys are really loyal,
you know, because we'd be on the road getting our
butt whooped and stuff. So but yeah, man, sports and
music totally goes together, and you think about it, people
that do sports want to do music. People to do music,
want to do sports.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
It always seems that way, man, And for people who
don't know. You know, Rich alluded to it before, but Jimmy,
jam and Terry Lewis legends who forked with everybody, everyone
under the moon. He mentioned Janet Jackson. But you know,
we used to see rocking your suit and all the
videos and the hat and everything, so.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Well, I'll forget all the people he's worked with. Our
Boston friend Scott said he's the best Timberwolves fan there is.
He goes, he goes Jimmy. Jim might be the super
fan of all super fans with the t Wolves. I
mean when you see those players, some of these is
it cool when some of the younger cats acknowledge what
you've done for music, because these kids we forget sometimes
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twenty something.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Yeah, no, a lot of them have no idea. Somebody
asked me. So I was fortunate enough to, you know,
back in the early days, I got to know KG
really well and became sort of a mentor for him.
And as a matter of fact, he actually married my
wife's sister, so he was my brother in law for
a while. And he has two beautiful kids, one of
them is actually going to Michigan on no volleyballow. So
(08:25):
very cool. So you know, all in the family there,
but yeah, the newer guys because somebody asked me about, hey,
do you know Aunt, Do you have you guys spoken?
And I said, no, I don't think Aunt really knows
who I am. But I'm I'm a total fan. And
I got to tell you one of the thrills of
my life was a couple of years ago in Denver
when we won that Game seven there in Denver, and
that was against the Nuggets. That was the best, you know,
(08:47):
So yeah, I still am a fan. At one point
in time, we were such fans. At one point we
tried to buy the team. This was a while back
when they were trying to move them to New Orleans.
This is back probably eighty seven ish eighty eight, something
like that, and they were trying to move the team,
and Terry and I put together a group with Janet,
and we had Janet, we had Quincy, we had Denzel Washington.
(09:09):
We had a whole group of folks and we were
going to buy the team. And then Glenn Taylor came
in and bought the team, and they said, you want
to be a part of the team and I said, no, said,
we just wanted the team to stay. That was that
was our goal and it all worked out really cool.
But no diehard Timberwolves fan loved the new team. We
got to figure it out. But most of the teams
this year got if you're not you know, okay, see.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Okay, see everybody they can to lose more than one game.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
Geez, by goodness, that's that's the start there. Off too
is crazy, but it'll it'll you know, some injuries will hit.
There will be some things that hit to turn that around.
And we know we've seen enough basketball to know that
at the beginning of the season, it's nice to get
off to a nice start. The thing that gets dangerous
is that if you don't, if you only have a
few wins, and let's say that record at all time
(09:54):
record is in, you know, how much do you go
for that versus you know what, No, we need to
wrest the guys and do that. So that'll be interesting
to see how they deal with that if they continue
to have the amount of success that they do.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Uh, Jimmy, jim, I got to ask back in the
day you brought up Quincy that documentary we Are the
World Where you saw he just had the respect of
every big name. They're all in the same room. The
story behind We Are the World is amazing. Nowadays technology
has made things a little easier or has it heard
it or both? Like what's your thoughts on how you
(10:27):
could dial up a zoom session or back in the day,
like even in broadcasting used the racks of equipment. We
could do a broadcast from like the beach with a
little machine. Now, like, has technology helped or hurt?
Speaker 5 (10:38):
It's it's changed it. I think it's your opinion on
whether it's it's better or not as good. Yeah, the
thing about We Are the World was, first of all,
they had a moment where everybody knew they had to
be there and in order to take part. And nowadays
we you know, we have people coming in we're going
to record when we do our recording of it, We're
(10:58):
literally bringing in people from you know, Janets in London,
Andrea Bocelli's in I don't even know where he's at,
Italy probably or somewhere like that. I mean, we're going
to be bringing in people from all over the place
in order to do it. They can't be there. I
mean we'll probably have thirty five to forty people actually
in the place, but then we'll be able to do it.
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So the technology is a good thing in finishing what
we're doing because right now people are sending things back
and forth. Like I literally I just got off of
a zoom today with Sammy Hagar who's in Hawaii, and
he wrote me a beautiful lyric and then he said cool.
And then I got a call from Duran Duran who said, hey,
(11:40):
can you send us at Sammy Hagar lyric? We want
to try that in our version that we're doing. It's like, okay, cool, wow.
So those are the kinds of things, those are the
kinds of things that's happening. And then I got a
literally a FaceTime from doctor Dre who doesn't live that
far from me, and he just said, hey, man, and
he's showed me a studio. He said, man, we got
to mix this here. We got to mix this at
the studio here. So it's been just a great thing
(12:02):
to bring everybody together. But we've been able to do
it over zooms and technology in order to get people
together in order to write the song. And that's been
a kind of a cool thing.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
I think thank you again. We're here with Jimmy Jam
over promised. There's always an ever changing landscape of sports
and new stars and new things going on, but the
same applies in music. How do you stand out as
an artist today? And how do you feel about the
oversaturation of the music that we get because there's new
stuff all the time. How's that changed for you?
Speaker 5 (12:33):
It's tougher to find things that you like. I started
doing a playlist for people that would always say I
don't hear any good new music, and it's like, yeah,
because it's a lot tougher to find. But I always
finds that I love. But yeah, it's definitely quantity over quality.
So if you think about it, like, well, I'll try
(12:54):
to make I'm the King of the bad analogies, but
I'll try to make I don't know, I might be.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
I say that title Jimmy Jam really really, I'm the
king of bad analogies.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
But going so, I was gonna so, I was gonna say.
One of the examples I use is because of the
way the access that people have, Like so you used
to in order to even go in a recording studio,
to even touch a board or to do any of
those things. There was a certain protocol that needed to happen.
You had to have, you know, some sort of training,
or you had to have you know, somebody at least,
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you know, a word of mouth that oh no, this
guy's really cool and something.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
So you had to be vouched for or you had
to be read at the right Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
Yeah, so that had that had to be there. So
if you think about that, it's the same way I
think about a football field. So what if everybody that's
sitting in the stands watching the game decides, you know what,
I can go on the field. I can catch a ball,
I can throw a ball. You know I can do that,
Jay Listen.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
We feel the same way as broadcasters. We've been in
radio and broadcasting radio TV for twenty years. They always say,
what a podcasts? And you know, buttholes have in common.
Most people have them and everyone has them when they think,
you know, because I mean, who doesn't have a podcast now, right?
I mean, so we get it like.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
That, feel free to use.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
That's the thing. It doesn't necessarily make it better. It
just means that more people are Yeah, everyone's going yeah,
So how do you stand out though? Like, you know,
how do you stand out from the rest when there's
so much of it. Yeah, I just think you have
to figure out a way to cut to kind of
cut through. And I think people are you watch the
way people use, you know, social media now they use Instagram.
(14:23):
I'd probably do more music discovery on Instagram than any
other place. Radio, though, is still important in its own
way because it's a curation system. I tell people all
the time, particularly DJs, that it's so important to you
remember the first time you hear a song, but if
somebody introduces you to that song. To me, there's a
specialness of the people that present that song to you.
(14:46):
So I mean, I remember a certain DJ, you know,
whether it's you know, back in my day, it's Donnie
Simpson or somebody like that saying hey, here's a new
one from so and so, and it's like, oh shoot,
it's like a friend telling you. And I think that
part of it is really important. So I think the
curation system hopefully continue to improve so that people who
don't have time to search for stuff all the time,
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you can kind of hand them and say, hey, this
is gonna be good. You're gonna like this, and that
kind of thing. But yeah, it's tough. It's just a
lot tougher to find stuff. But when you find something
you like, like for instance, there's a girl, Olivia Dean,
who's my favorite new artist right now.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
So Olivia Dean.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
One of the things I did with her I went
to see her in Nashville a couple of weeks ago.
But I went and found out all the people who
she liked and all the people that influenced her. And
there was a bunch of people I discovered just because
I liked her. I liked what she was listening to
and the people that she so that to me is
a good way to connect. When you find an artist
you really like, see who they're listening to and who
they like, and a lot of times you'll be aligned.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Very cool and Jimmy, when you were saying that, I
pictured you as a little kid listening to the radio.
Was there a moment for you when you thought, yeah,
this is what I want to do. Was there a
song or a moment you could take us back to
where your parents playing you an album or are you
listening to the radio? Was there a moment or a
song that did it for you?
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Wow? Oh well, okay, well I'll tell you that I
don't know there's a song on the radio that necessary
Well maybe it was because it was on the radio.
But I tell you one of my early earliest memories
was we were at like a family reunion or something,
and back end probably sixty six ish, I will say,
there was an album called It was called The Supremes
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sing Holland dojer Holland, and it was a gold album cover.
And I remember looking at the album cover and I
said to my dad, I said, what is Holland dojer Holland?
Because I'm thinking Holland as a country. Yeah, and he said, no,
Holland dozer Holland are the songwriters? And I said the
songwriters and he said yeah. He said, so you know,
if you get a seven inch record and there's the
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artist name, but if you look between the parentheses, there's
some other names. Those are the people that wrote the song.
And when I looked at those names, Holland dojer Holland,
I was like, okay. So then when I started getting records,
I would always look for the Holland dojer Holland. I
would always look between the I read the seas at
the name. And what that did was made me become
or want to become a songwriter because I never felt
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I could sing good. I can't sing good. We'll just
put that out there. I sing terribly, but I can
show other people what to sing. I know what it
should be right, And so when I get the chance
to be in the studio with him. But that was
the thing. And then the other thing that solidified that
I told I mentioned, you know Cornbread. I drummed for him,
you know, when I was twelve years old. He's my
first professional gig. But when I met Terry Lewis that
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same year, which was nineteen seventy three, Terry already had
a drummer in the band he had, and he said,
you should play keyboards. And I said why and he said,
because your dad plays keyboards, you should be able to play.
And I said, oh, okay. So Terry was the one
that switched me over to keyboards. And the drummer that
he had was Jellyban Johnson, who unfortunately just passed away
from the Time, the drummer from the Time. But literally,
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that foundation of those groups back then became the Time
and Prince and all of those Minneapolis groups that led
to us being able to speak to you guys today.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Amazing And by the way, it all times to the
other because it wasn't Prince supposed to be on We
Are the World and he just didn't show up. Sign
he did do his own thing.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
Yeah, that's a that's a great parallel though, by the way,
So now he'll he'll get to be on it now
because of us. Because when Prince pass passed away, which
will be ten years this coming year, one of the
things we said is there's not really a decision we
make without thinking about what would Prince do, because he
was such a mentor to us and really taught us
work ethic. It's the biggest thing that he taught us.
(18:30):
But this is an example of all the people. Chila
is going to be on it, and Chileae was part
of the original, but she's going to be on this.
Stevie Wonder was part of the original. He's going to
be on this. So yeah, we do have some of
the people that are there from the original. Wow, it's
going to be kind of cool now.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Jimmy jam hanging on over promised with Kevin and Rich
I'm just fascinated by how technology ai and this this
is sort of, uh, you know, something we have to
acknowledge in the world the music. I think there's something's
so beautiful about songwriting and what goes into it and
you know, your experiences that craft the great lyrics of
(19:08):
a song. Unfortunately, now you could just pop into Suno
or AI and just type in I want a song
about a hole in my sock in the in you know,
in country or a hip hop and it pushes it out.
What are your thoughts on this technology is it? Is
it just shitty for the music industry or do you
use it at times if you're missing something or what.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
So my feeling about AI is that overall the technology
is great. The problem comes with the compensation and permission.
So I think you should be compensated. If you're what
you're giving to AI. You know, what's your being scraped,
you should be compensated for that. And also it shouldn't
(19:48):
be done without your permission. You should give permission to
do it. But I'll give you an example. There's a
couple of I won't mention names, but there's a couple
of you know, older artists that we're working with right
now where we needed to you know, undo or not undue,
but redo a piece of a vocal and we could
call them back and say, hey, can you come back
and redo this vocal, or we can just redo the
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vocal based on what we already have from them. And
I think in that case, as long as we have
the permission of the artist to do it, then to me,
it becomes a great tool. And so for me it's
a great tool. But it can certainly be used in
the wrong way, and if the people aren't being compensated
for it or ask their permission, that's where to me
it gets. It gets to be a bad thing.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Jimmy, I'm thinking back at the original of the World
and you mentioned some of the names.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Stevie Wonder, I'm thinking Huey Lewis.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
I'm thinking about that time, an apathetic Bob Dylan, he
was just there to hang prin.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
Yeah, Lionel actually, Lionel. By the way, Lionel's actually been
very cool behind the scenes with this. He's he's kind
of mentored me behind the scenes on on what to
watch out for and those types of things. I want
to instrumental.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Oh, that's awesome, man.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
I wanted to ask you about the mystique of celebrity
back then versus the accessibility of celebrity today, Like today,
we need to know everything about everyone on social media
and everything. Back then, it was such a wall between
the fans and the celebrities. They were like godlike to us.
You know, how have you seen that change? How does
it affect what you do? And I know Rich has
(21:26):
a follow up, The Evolution of Celebrity.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it has definitely changed. Yeah, because people, well,
I remember when, you know, I remember when Twitter and
all that stuff first started and people would go here,
I am at the grocery store, and I thought, who
cares everybody?
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Yeah, And then of course we were wrong. I thought
the same thing, like, I'm totally totally wrong. I mean
a turkey salad sandwich. Yeah, who gives us ship?
Speaker 5 (21:52):
Exactly? No, that's and that's what people want to see.
So it's interesting once again, I think, you know, listen,
I think it's a huge pendulum swing that goes back
and forth. I think a lot of the newer artists
I'm noticing now are much more. Some are very honest
in their music and what they do, and some are
very closed off. I love the fact I thought that
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Janet was one of the people that when we did control,
which is forty years ago next year to be forty
years of control. That the idea of someone just kind
of telling their story on their records. And I remember
when she didn't do a lot of interviews, and she
still doesn't really do a lot of interviews. But I
would always say, if you ever want to know anything
about what Janet's thinking, just listen to her records. So
(22:32):
I think a lot of artists now are beginning to
put their thoughts, you know, if you think about a
Chapel Roan or a Billie Eilish or a lot of
these newer artists are putting their feelings on their records,
which then they don't have to do as much press
or as much you know, spotlight thing. So I think
I'm seeing a little bit of a less accessible thing
with some of the newer artists. But I you know,
(22:56):
once again, the choices are all there. You can kind
of do it the way, and some people love the
cameras on. I'll tell you one quick story. When we
were doing Spice Girls. Now this was twenty years ago,
thirty years ago, probably in their heyday. I remember we
went to London to do it and there was one
vocal we couldn't get with with Posh Posh spice. There
was one vocal we couldn't get and they remember they
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brought in a crew of people to film us, and
as soon as the spot all the bright lights of
the camera, I don't figure we're not going to get anything.
At this point, she lit up and she killed the
vocal and I told the engineer record record, you know,
and we caught it. But what was interesting about it
was it showed different personalities. Some people want to be
very closed off and they don't want to be in
front of it. Some people, when the bright lights come on,
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that's when they shine and so and I'm sure that
it's the same thing in sports. There's certain people that
are great practice players and they get in the game
with the lights and the crowd and they just can't
do it.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Jimmy, Jimmy, I'm telling you, not the name drop, but
Jerry Rice once told us that he goes, you'd be amazed.
What what said. There's some practice players where you're like,
oh my god, this guy's amazing. Lights go on, they
turn off, and he would say that, and then there's
the opposite, the opposite. He goes, I'm not the fastest guy,
but in a game. No one's catching me. You see
that across everything to me, he said, Posh spice. I'm thinking,
(24:10):
how how adorable are her and David Beckham together? They're
grossly adorable together. You know. I had a question about uh,
like a good hypothetical we've discussed for a while. But
before I get to that, I do have a question
about Lionel Richie. It was he because when you were
talking about how he was helpful to you, watching that
documentary about We Are the World made me realize that.
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Like I was a kid of the eighties, I didn't
realize what a megastar, the charisma, and then you see
him judging on American Idol, Like is he maybe one
of the most charismatic, amazing people ever. Like Lionel Richie,
I saw a whole new perspect for him just by
watching that documentary.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
Yeah, he is. And exactly what you see and what
comes across in the documentary is exactly who he is
as a person. He is the most humble but great
stories and he I remember when we got nominated for
an Academy Award back in ninety three for again for
Janet Song, and I remember he took me to lunch
(25:08):
and he kind of walked me through the process. This
is how it's going to be, this is what you know,
and we ended up we ended up not winning. I
think Bruce Springsteen might have beat us out, but you know, hey,
it's Bruce. But anyway, it was like he was so
supportive and so cool, and we've struck up a friendship
and then we've been aligned in a lot of in
a lot of interesting things. When he got his star
on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, the person the people
(25:30):
that inducted him was myself and Jay Leno, and we're
actually recording the event that we're going to do the
recording event on the old Jay Leno stage, So there's
kind of a weird alignment of things there. And also
Lionel Ritchie and myself went into the Rock and Roll
Hall of Fame the same year, so we're kind of
aligned in a whole lot of different ways. But Lionel
(25:52):
is a superstar in any possible imagination as a friend,
as a mentor, and as a singer as a songwriter.
I mean, he's got it all.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Speaking of superstars again, we have the great Jimmy jam
here on over promised. He's worked with every Superstar under
the Moon has so many songs, songs for days. And
you know, since you're so connected to the Jackson's Janet
Jackson in particular, what are your thoughts on the thriller
movie coming out.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
I'm looking forward to it. I haven't. I was supposed
to go to a not a screening, but I was
supposed to go to one of the tapings when they
were taping.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
She saw the trailer though, right, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,
the trailer.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
The trailer looks good. I like the way the trailer looks.
But I but I was supposed to actually go to
the film set and and see some of the stuff
and Entron Fuqua, who's directing the movie, as a friend
from way back. But I'm excited to see it. I
really am. And I'm you know, Michael's incredible. I mean
the fact I can pinch myself that Terry and I
got to work with Michael and Prince. I mean, I
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think we're probably the only people that that's you know,
happened to and got to do a duet with Michael
and Janet together the scream do it.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Oh man, I hate to put you on a spot,
but were you impressed by one more than the other.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
In different ways. They were. The Prince as a musician,
he's the greatest musician ever. To me, you could pick
up anybody's instrument and play it better than them. You know.
He just was that kind of dude.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
And he can play basketball.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
He was a really good basketball player. He was. He
was really good.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
I'm telling you.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
He was like Steph Curry man. He had handles. He
was serious. He was serious. And Michael just embodied music.
Michael wasn't necessarily a musician, but he could tell the
musicians what to play and make it, you know, really beautiful.
So to me, each in their own way, they were amazing.
Now they weren't. They weren't compatible, Like they never worked together.
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And I don't think they would have been compatible, because
I can tell you Prince was literally start a song
and ended the same day. It's done, it's mixed, it's over.
Michael would be I remember when we did Scream and
he'd go, Okay, we have to challenge ourselves to really
make sure that we have the right lyric and it's
like okay. And after about two or three days of
challenging ourselves, Terry said, hey, man, the Lyric's fine, let's go.
(28:12):
Yeah he was overthinking it. Yeah, and that's right. He
overthought everything. But that was where Quincy came in as
such an important thing. And if you think about think
about Michael's tutelage. He started off with Barry Gordy at Motown,
he went to Gamble and Huff in Philadelphia, and then
he went to Quincy Jones. I mean that kind of musical.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Education.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
Nobody has that like that. So yeah, he's an amazing dude.
So to me, they're both equally good. I mean, obviously
Prince is the one. They made it possible for us
to even work with Michael Jackson, So I mean, I'm
always gonna Princes my guy.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Nice. Now, Jimmy, jim, here's the question, not to be
prisoners of the moment or not to glorify the past. Yes,
when you see what's happening with Taylor Swift and the
Swifties around the world, is it comparable to Michael Jackson
in the eighties? Is it fair to make that comparison?
We often debate that. We often debate like is it
the closest thing? Is it on the same level? I mean,
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who would know better than.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
You it's the closest thing because it goes beyond the
music that she makes. It's about the way she affects culture.
The fact that you know, people will tune into a
Chiefs game who won't watch a football game. So when
you think about that, and if you want to talk
about that, I don't know, you can see it. I
have amongst my bracelets I do have. I do Taylor Swift.
(29:32):
That got my Taylor Swift bracelet. I gotlet that my
daughter made me.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Well, I don't know if it's a fair question then,
because he's a swiftie.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Michael Jackson, I gotta listen. I'm old. I've been around
a long time man, So I'm friends. I'm friends with everybody.
But I know, I respect Taylor. I love what she does,
and also she looks out for music makers. I also
respect that. You know, a lot of the decisions she's
made with the way she releases her albums, the fact
that they're on vinyl, the fact that she called out
(30:03):
a bunch of the streaming companies and said, no, you
won't put my music on here for free, and that
kind of thing. Yeah, so I like I like Taylor
a lot.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Hey, Jimmy Jim. You you work so closely with Janet
and it's been over twenty years now. I always thought
that she got such unnecessary shit for the Her and
Timberlake halftime show. When you see where society is now
as far as you know anything, right, how we like
showing a nipple, Like do you think like it really
took its toll based on like something so insignificant when
(30:30):
you look back.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
Yeah, it was a terrible It was a terrible time,
and it really changed a whole lot of things. Now.
The good news is obviously she survived it and really
thrived on it. I think it became almost a rallying point,
particularly for her fans, which was good. And but yeah,
I mean it's interesting that the other irony, there's all
kind of little ironies to it, but one is that
(30:54):
actually the head of the FCC at that point was
Colin Powell's son, and Janet had just devoted a bunch
of tour receipts or a tour you know, income to
his organization. And I can't remember what it was called,
but literally the concert ticket money was going to Colin
Powell's organization.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
And it's the fact that the Sun was the one
that shut her down effectively, but it changed the way
that you know, and and she was you know, banned
from the Grammys. But the only reason she was banned
from the Grammys was it wasn't the Grammys. It was
the fact that CBS, who had the Grammys, they were
the ones that said, no, we don't want her on
the show. But it just happened that the super Bowl
(31:37):
was on CBS that year. If the super Bowl would
have been on another network, it wouldn't have been a thing.
So there was all kinds of interesting little, you know,
things about it. But I think we've all learned from it,
and I think that you know, once again, she's survived
it and thrived in it.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Yeah. I just always thought such unnecessary nonsense because I mean,
it's Janet's a legend. And I was like that one
little moment, like looking back, it's like we cared about that.
I don't know, just it always bothered me.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
Well but see, but that's once again when technology comes
into it. Because we never had the technology to freeze
frame a thing on a TV. YouTube didn't really exist
or wasn't you know, it had just started off. Yeah,
and all of a sudden that became a thing. It's like, oh,
you'll see it on YouTube, you know. Yeah, if we
all would have had stock in it, it would have been great.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
So now back in then, true, we could talk to
you all day.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
I want to thank you for your time again, Jimmy
jam On over promised Fox Sports Radio, Cavino and Rich Now,
can you tell us how other people can get involved
with one hundred billion meals dot org?
Speaker 2 (32:38):
How do people go there? Right? Yeah, but you can
actually zoom.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
In, like you could be part of the session and everything, right, well, yeah,
tell you about it.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
Yeah, I can totally. You can totally be part of
the session. So you can join for free on zoom
if you make a ten dollars donation, which is forty
four meals, it gets you a little elevated access type
of thing. And then there's also what's called the Life
Savers Club, which is a nineteen dollars per month, nineteen
ninety five per month that gets you an even more
elevated experience in Zoom. So yeah, but the thing is,
(33:09):
please join us on the sixteenth of December, It'll probably
be around eleven o'clock Pacific time, and you can be
the fly on the wall as we kind of try
to recreate the in the inspiration of We Are the
World with a ton of different stars not only in
the place but also around the world.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
On Zoom Wow. Jimmy Jam of course a guy that
knows everyone Jimmy before you go, Is there one rando artist?
We were looking at the list of people you've worked
with and it's just endless. I'd spend ten minutes just
naming them all. Is there someone that you have an
oddly fun relationship with that most people want to know,
Like Yo, you click so amazingly with hill ooh wow,
(33:53):
like like an odd couple like wow, would you believe
Jimmy Jam's pals with Blank?
Speaker 5 (33:58):
Oh? Wow? Yeah, prob man. I'm trying to think that's
really funny because normally people go, who haven't you worked with?
Who you want to work with?
Speaker 2 (34:09):
That's normally the question.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
Who is Wow, dude, I've had You know what, when
I come back on the show, if I get invited
that teaser, I'll think about. I'll have to think about
who that is. That's like a weird you know partner
that I oh, oh yeah, okay, I'll tell you when
that comes to mind. I'll tell you who comes to mine.
So last year for my birthday, or not for my birthday,
(34:32):
but a couple of years ago on my birthday. And
the guy's name is slipping my mind, so forgive me.
But there was a DJ that was getting a star
on the Walk of Fame and I had met him
through some people at the Stern Show and stuff, and
they said, he said would you come out? And I
said cool, and so I came out. Star ceremony happened
to be on my birthday. And when he goes on stage,
(34:53):
he starts talking and then he goes, oh, Jimmy Jams
here today, it's his birthday. Let's sing Happy birthday to him,
and every buddy starts singing. Sitting to my left was
Billy Idle. Billy Idyl is yelling in my ear, happy
birth with accent and we're now and we're now friends.
(35:13):
She has a documentary. Yeah, and I just hosted actually
an event at the Grammy Museum where they showed a
screening of his movie and all of that, and so yeah,
Billy Idol is like a buddy.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Now that's so cool thee Yeah, Jimmy jam what a
pleasure talking to you again.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
People can find that all this stuff at one hundred
billion meals Dot org at one hundred billion meals.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
On December sixteenth, you could be there, Joy on zoom
and thank you again for your time, thanks for being
on over promised Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
And we'll take you up.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
On that rain day. We'll hang out. We'll do it
again a rain day. That's it, right day, rain day.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Thank you, Jimmy Jam.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
Thank you guys, Thank you man. All right, thanks again
to Jimmy Jam.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
How good is that?
Speaker 3 (35:56):
That was really cool?
Speaker 4 (35:57):
Appreciate your time and hope you guys enjoyed that legend
musical legend right there.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Now it's time to get down to business Week fifteen
of the NFL. Three quick picks. Let's lock these in.
I actually really like these, No disrespect to the Bills,
but not so fast, Patriots. The Patriots beat the Bills
earlier this year. Hard to beat a team twice, especially
division team that you have such a rivalry with. Now,
(36:22):
Josh Allen showed a little heart last week in that
snow game against the Bengals. So I just like the
Bills money line, they're playing in New England. But to
think that the Patriots beat them twice in a year,
that would almost like clinch a division for them up
not so fast. So I like the Bills money line.
Just win the game.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
I'm not saying you, but I feel like the general, you,
the collective, you likes to downplay the Patriots too, though
that is true.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Drake May, We'll see. How about this? The Rams out
here in La, put them up, Put them up. The
Lion's got some courage, wicked style. They're five and a
half point underdogs. Now I'm not saying they're gonna come
to LA and be the Rams, who I still think
are arguably the best team in the NFC, but they
showed some freaking heart last week Thursday Night against the Cowboys.
(37:08):
They have a shorter the Rams have a shorter rest.
The Cowboys Lions game gave the Lions a little extra
rest time. So even if they don't win, I like
them to keep it close. So Lions plus five and
a half. But bam, lock that in. Even if they
don't win, they just need to keep it close. And
what have they got? Did Ain'tkoius? And this is a
(37:29):
simple one. I'm calling this the old This is the
teaser bet of the week. Maybe not double digits, but
definitely a Tuddy. The forty nine Ers and Seahawks, two
teams headed for the playoffs. In my opinion, they're playing
shitty teams. The forty nine Ers are playing the Titans
two and ten. The Niners are twelve and a half
point favorites. I'm not sure they'll win by double digits,
(37:51):
but they'll certainly win by a touchdown. Right, So Niners
minus six and a half. And as much as I
love the story of like Yo, is it gonna be?
Philip Rivers, Who's it's gonna be? The Cults have to
travel to Seattle without a quarterback yet lock in the
Seahawks minus five and a half. They're eleven and a
half points favorites. But I, you know, maybe not double digits.
(38:11):
Maybe there's a miracle, But I like the two Western
Conference NFC West teams to win big here.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
I like you.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
So spots say it, screenshot it, Josh Allen Detroit and
some NFC West domine shall And that's your week fifteen locks.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
All right, Well, you remember to follow us Covino and
Rich FSR on YouTube. Check out our show Monday through Friday.
Thanks again to Jimmy Jam shout out to my Grandma.
She was a hell of a basketball player. Broita, there
you go, Tita, thank you.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Hey, we'll see guys tomorrow. Rima, there you baby, see
you in the over Promised Land. Good Bye, Peace,
Hosts And Creators
Rich Davis
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