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June 19, 2025 23 mins

The Florida Panthers win their second straight Stanley Cup Championship. Covino & Rich reflect on some of the craziest antics players have had during their time with the Cup. Coach Rich is at it again, and questions whether or not winning is important in youth sports. And Buster Posey "speaks out" against the Devers trade, and C&R notice how different he looks compared to the babyface player we know. And join us for CRC20 in Vegas this weekend!

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Do it, do it well?

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Welcome to episode ninety seven of Over Promised Covino and
Rich from Fox Sports Radio, the world famous CNR on
FSR Fox Sports Radio five to.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Seven on the East, two to four on the West.
Search Covino and Rich wherever you stream your podcast and enjoy.
We even have a best of the Week every Saturday.
But it's exciting week here getting ready for Vegas, Baby
celebrating the show ce RC cee rc uh huh we
uh huh we we yeah, wait, we're gonna be in
Vegas as you know, Friday and Saturday. Four big events.

(00:42):
Pool party at Circa Stadium, swim a lounge party that night,
Atomic golf. The whole agenda will go over in a
little bit, uh even more, but we gotta have first
in first mostly give congratulations. There it is, there's the
big convention. We we gotta get props to the Florida
Panthers and sorry Canada A your drought continues. The drought continues.

(01:05):
Canada hasn't won since ninety three, the Canadians, so we
thought maybe it was time, but no, a repeat from Florida,
a dynasty the start of one. Perhaps congratulations they won
five to one victory Game six. They won the series
four to two over the Oilers. Props again to Florida,

(01:27):
Props again to the Panthers. I hope to go to
Florida this summer. Actually, I'll continue partying, you know what.
So they've had a day plus now to really take
it in. And you know, this is a fun fact
that I feel like people know but never betting to
remind people. Every member of an NHL Stanley Cup winning
team gets one, as they say, private day with the

(01:47):
Stanley Cup, and all their names are on the little
play right, I think, But who is Stanley Stanley Roper?
According to Google, Frederick Stanley, the sixteenth Earl of Derby. Yeah,
Lord Stanley's had Lord Stanley. I thought of Stanley Roper
all these years. I have sy I mean, the guy
that never gave it to missus Roper. Yeah exactly. But

(02:09):
it's an honor, it's a cherished prize, it's the trophy.
They're victorious, and it got us thinking of the craziest
things to happen Stanley. I've got us thinking of the
craziest things that happened to the Stanley Cup because, like
Rich said, they all get it for a period of
time you start thinking of like perverted ship. But I

(02:31):
do at least like you think there's some young player
that like has in the room and he's like, all right, ladies,
come on, and he just bangs a bunch of women
in front of the Stanley Cup who are thinking of
splooging in it? Are you in your please? You don't
think there's one guy that I don't think there's one

(02:51):
man that's defiled the Stanley cuff. Well, I got us
thinking of some of the favorite most famous moments, and
it starts with Mark Messiaa. His real name is just
Mark Messi, but the Canadians call him Mark Messier. Oh yeah, yeah,
Mark Messier. He partied with it, took it out to
the club back in eighty seven. This is when he

(03:14):
went with their Rangers in ninety four. So he's a
multi time winner, Stanley Cup champion, but in nineteen eighty
seven he dented it. He was a younger man that
brought it to He brought it to the club. I
tell you don't think he took it home for a club.
And remember they put on the white gloves to present
this thing. This is a cherished prize. This has history right,
so Messier sort of. I mean, I get it, you're

(03:37):
having fun, you won, but you don't want to dent
the thing. So you have to imagine in the moment, like, oh, spot,
it's okay. He pulled up like later Mark Messier with
the bald head chrangers. Mark Messier. He was a more
mature man then. But in the eighties Mark Messier, you
don't know what he was doing with that thing. You
gotta respect the cup guys. But that happened and it
goes down in history. I was like, oh, man, remember

(03:59):
when Messier did that at eighty seven. Now, I know
it was fun to party like it's nineteen ninety nine,
But in nineteen ninety nine, Craig Ludwig a yo, I
get it the same way. Tom Brady was throwing the
Lombardi trophy from boat to boat, and people like to
throw around trophies. This guy threw it off a huge
pool deck. But right there, yeah, stupid move, like no

(04:19):
one's stopped, but die No, maybe that's why you have
to have good people around you. Lords. Still he's about
to throw it off a roof into into a pool
and apparently it's it's heavier than you think. And so
he misses. You know, it's sort of like you ever
see some dope. Oh, sometimes it's like some like college girl.

(04:43):
Someone tries to jump off a roof into a pool
and then they stutter step at the last second and
they hit the edge of the pool. That's what happened
to Lord Stanley's cup with that guy hits the edge
dense damaged. They got to take it to the body shop,
I guess, to get repaired. I don't know how they
fix it, but yeah, I mean I got a little

(05:03):
tunny eighth dog. They called their other repair guy over.
I don't know what he did that, Sebastian Madiscalco says,
but like, what a dumb move to begin with. You
don't throw it off the roof. Now you miss now cove.
I know, over the last couple of years, you went
from the guy that was like, yeah, I'm not really

(05:24):
a pet guy, and now you're the guy that has
your dog sitting on your lap during every Yankees game.
You got little Theo always with you. Yeah, but I
wouldn't be able to do this because Theo is little.
It would require a big dog to eat out of it, right,
big dog. Ro and Clark killes apparently legendary. The legend goes,
he put dog food in it let his dog eat

(05:45):
out of it, which is I guess a common thought.
I would imagine a lot of people probably did it.
But that story goes down and he thought dog food,
I thought up some dirty strip. Yeah. I was thinking,
like a giant bowl of coco pebbles, That's what I
was thinking. That was when the Islanders were all some
of the eighties rice and beans out of that bed
and all the Guido's like, yeah, in this a colisseum.
When we were little kids, the Islanders dominated, and these

(06:07):
feeding his dog out of the Stanley Honestly, what is
your go to thought before we get into our next
two favorite moments with the Stanley Cup? Like, honestly, my
thought when I think bowl, and because it's like a
it's like Stanley's bowl in my mind, I would just
eat a giant bowl of cereal out of it. That
would be to crunch, yeah, like give me some crunch berries,
no soggies. It would be a big giant bowl of

(06:31):
cocoa pebbles for real, or peanut butter crunch one of
the other I mean fruity pebbles. Yeah, but that would
be my thought. What is your thought? I mean, it's
something I have it for a full day. So you
might want to start the day with some cereal and
then by the end of the day you might have
some cheeks on that bed. You would feel like a
king eating out of that thing. And I'm sure it's
been done. That's an obvious one, of course. But you

(06:52):
know what you're thinking, all dirty and weird me. You
about Sylvian by the way, not Italian Sylvian le Fay.
This god is kid baptized. This guy was thinking like
morals and religion. He did the old baptism. Like what
an honor though? Right? If you're that kid, if you're
little a fame and you're like, yeah, I was baptized,

(07:13):
like you're part of hockey royalty at that point, that's
pretty cool. That's a nice family move. You're blessed by
the hockey gods. No, that's very cool. I don't know
why this one makes me laugh. I'll tell you what
it makes me laugh, Chris Draper. Like you know, when
you were a baby, your parents would put you in
anything and take a picture. You would be in the dryer,
you'd be holding dad's beer cigarette, your parents would love

(07:35):
to just take funny photos of you. Always you do
a cigarette, you do with your kids, always with a
cigarette in the eighties for sure, or a can of beer.
This guy put his daughter in the Stanley Cup. Jute,
you took a little baby shit old time. Here's what
I don't get in this legendary story. Again, we're talking
about pooping in the Stanley Cup. Chris Draper, Chris Draper's daughter. Yeah,

(08:01):
he didn't poop as far as we know, but she's
not wearing a diaper. I mean, it's probably one of
those artistic, you know, the big naked baby photos, like
probably just popping out at the top, you know. A Yeah, Okay,
there was another player who's I think kid Pete in
the cup. But here's the thing. I find the funny
that twenty plus years I changed my mind about eating

(08:21):
out of it now. So here's the funny part. Though,
twenty plus years has passed, so there's some probably twenty
something year old girl out there that the story is like, Yeah,
I hey, pooped in the Stanley Cup. That's I mean, gross,
but also one of the coolest bragging ever, the grossest
cool bragging red of all time. Yeah, I pooped in
the Stanley Cup and I was a baby. And as
crazy as you think these things are, it's not as

(08:44):
crazy as when Spot, our producer here of over promised,
tried to steal it to make his famous potato sound.
You guys, remember that, I really no, Spot can't Spot.
But you're you're wondering why we know so much about
it because we're not the biggest hockey fans. But of
course we're tuning in to Stanley Cup final to watch.
You know, we actually had the honor and privilege of

(09:05):
seeing it and holding it and touching it and looking
at it and everything, and we saw how it was handled,
has taken out of this case and presented and you
guys are trying to stop me. Yeah, and we really Spot,
you can't. He's like, no, I must I know that
I'm not a big hockey guy, but Spot, I feel
like there's hockey fans around the world that are agitated
that a guy like you got to hug the Stanley Cup. Meanwhile,

(09:28):
to them, it's like royalty. It's in Lord Spotty's Cup. Yeah,
I mean, it really is funny. You know what, you
want to eat a bisk out of it or something
like that you trying to have some lobster bisk out
of the Stanley Cup and hugging you like that is
the same way people feel when there's some apathetic influencer
sitting in the front row at a game and you're like,
they don't deserve it. I don't think any of us
deserve it to be with this.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
Oh, no, appreciate the legendary status of Lord Stanley, Lord
Stanley and his cup.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Yeah, you know, I respected it and understood the importance
as well. I felt honored and I'm honored to have
that picture. But we posed a question to you, based
on these legendary stories, which one stands out the most
to you spotting potato salad chopping a deuce inside of it?
And what would you what would be your default? Really,

(10:14):
what would be your go to? Well, these guys had
it for a night. They're younger with you, they're younger men,
So perversion leads, I promise you, definitely. They're all twenty
something year old guys for the most part. So you
don't you don't think some type of sexual antics are involved,
get out of here. They have to be. So let
me ask you another question. It is Lord Stanley's Cup,

(10:35):
which wants to sit on it. Is it the one
thing that hockey has over the other sports? Is it
the coolest trophy? Yeah, no doubt. Give me Lombardi Trophy
the other three, but Stanley's Cup has more history. So
Lombardi Trophy, World Series Trophy with all the flags, the
NBA Trophy, I mean, old school heavyweight belts, if the

(10:55):
actual legends bore them and had them, because sometimes they
get paid down, sometimes they get new ones. About the
Rocky Bell Boa Belt with the red, white and blue. Yeah,
But as far as trophies and awards, yeah, I think
I'm sorry that the Honkey Talk Fans Intercontinental Belt might
have been. Yeah, that was a pretty big one.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
So I think the fact that it's the same one
and it's it's guarded and there's a person that's actually
a signed dude.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
They had security, they wheeled it in and everything. It
was in a big case. Actually you've probably seen it,
but we saw it with our own eyes. It was
a big deal. I know it is. We used to
do a Guacamoala contest and we'd give out the golden
Mocha hate the golden coveted for sure. Hockey fans. Another
great season the books and let me ask you one
other follow up, Panthers back to back. It's not easy

(11:40):
in sports now. I know when we were younger, there
were three peats in the NBA. You know, Baseball had
the Yankees three peat, the forty nine Ers, the Cowboys,
the Patriots. There are repeats and three peats. And what
is the hardest sport now? Do you think when it
comes to repeating, Because I think there's an obvious answer.
It's baseball. I think it hasn't been done but since

(12:01):
the Yankees, since the Yankees, and Listen Mahomes has done
it recently. They were going for the three peet in
in the NBA, you see these great dynasties that at
any given year, those big teams could be back and
win again. I think in baseball you have to your
pitching needs to be on, You need to win a
best of five and seven and then another seven. It

(12:21):
just seems like it's the long ast season Andrey is
always getting the way. I hate to say it, but
it just meant them. It's a huge factor in all sports,
but you know it still applies here. It's not an
easy thing to do. I mean, there was a time
where much like the Spurs in the NBA, it felt
like the giants in baseball won every other year. Yeah,
it just really does put in perspective. And I hate
to say it that Yankees dynasty win three in a row,

(12:46):
but they were in so many in that time span.
I mean, right, they had ninety six lost. There was
a year off and they won three. Then there was
a year off and they lost one, and they lost
another one. Like it's it's that run they had. Locking back.
We're far enough removed to at least even if you're
be like, damn, they definitely had a run. They had
a squad and not feel so bad when you see

(13:07):
what the Red Sox did to them in oh for
It's like, yeah, yeah they were fine, they were there,
they were fine. So yeah, I would say baseball is
the hardest to repeat in not to take away at
all from what Florida did. Congrats to them and good
luck next time Canada. He might hopefully next year. Now
it's gonna figure to baseball.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
You know me.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
I'm the number one coach of Fox Sports Radio. I
mean so I've heard I coach my son's five U
pony ball team. We don't do little leg out here.
We do pony ball. I know the difference is same,
a little different, Oh yeah, I mean yeah, But I'm
just saying like there's different rules, slightly competitions a little different.
But my son's in West Hill's pony ball and I'm

(13:47):
coaching the five U All Stars and Spotty. I say
a couple of pictures like these kids are like having
the time of their life. And why they call you
pony boy, Yeah, pony ball because you got your ass
kicked by the socials. Yeah, these kids. And did you
ever have your name on the back of a uniform American? Dude,
I had like a hand me down leftover jersey from

(14:07):
the seventies. Did you have all your own bats and
sliding gloves and all the shit they have? It's mild.
We had like patched up bullshit pants. Remember, Like it's
like whatever was passed down by the previous team. It's serious.
Now you get as other parents know, you get links
from and I have to send it out to my team,

(14:28):
like here's the exact socks you need, here's the exact
belt you need because we all need to match perfectly.
Like it's it's pretty funding. I'm having so much fun
coaching them. But I wanted to pose a question for
all the parents. I feel like now's the time travel
sports kids sports. You get to that stage if you
do have kids involved in sports every weekend and weekdays

(14:49):
with practice, your world is consumed by this. Well, the
two things we always hear is how much time it
takes up and how your whole life revolves around it
so you don't even have time for yourself or a weekend,
And how expensive it is. These are the two things
we hear all the time. Right, you don't want to
let your kid fall behind, right, and you don't want
to provide them with these opportunities either. So it's like, well,

(15:09):
what do you do? I've seen this they're five, but
I've seen this little all star team bond so much
in just a few weeks, and it got me thinking
of a question I want to post to everyone, and hey,
you could hit us up at Covine on rich with
your feedback. I'm sort of torn on how important winning
is when they're five and six years old, because there
are teams we're playing that there's like bullshit rules like

(15:32):
get the ball in the infield if you put your
hands up and say time out, dead ball, time out,
where other teams follow me here, little ground ball to
you know Easton at third base, he picks it up.
The mindset is if he tries to throw to first
at five and six, as a fifty percent chance that
ball is going to get by him, and now the

(15:52):
runner's on third. So other coaches are saying, field the ball,
just put your hands up, So they're playing within the rules,
but they're not necessarily teaching the kids to throw to first.
Like my thought is I My instinct was, Yo, you
feel that ground ball, buddy, you throw to the first base.
Now may get past them, but you're five, I get it,
you will eventually get it. So the other teams don't

(16:13):
want to give extra bases, and by default they're going
to win because they're giving out less bases. Like my kid,
I'll be like, yo, throw to first base, and I'm
realizing that you're not going to win that way. So
is winning important in five and six year old sports?
I think we also need to clear it up. Easton
isn't a bat since the little kid on third apparently,
so they all got these cute little names at Hudson

(16:36):
and Easton and Jackson and yeah, that's that's how they
are so winning at five. Here's what we also need
to keep in mind. These kids are five. They can't
wipe their own ass. They would ship probably in the
Stanley Cup. They pick their nose and eat it. Yeah,
they cry, they get upset, they're the little kids. It
could be the thirty guard, it could be the third inning,

(16:57):
and it's like couch. So yeah, I don't want to
make it clear. I'm not getting soft. We're not getting
solved here. I have to say they are five years old,
so winning is everything, but not at five. Fundamentals, you're
putting the fun in fundamentals. This is something you should
ask Coach Ballgame, even though I mean, what does coach

(17:18):
ball Game have on Coach Dickie, But I'll say he's
a good friend and recent guests on our show, he
does this with these little kids all the time. I think, again,
things change quickly, but life is hard and life is
competitive from about the time you're eight and nine to
the rest of your life. So from five to like

(17:39):
eight nine, you can't let them have fun. At least
teach him that there's fun to be had, even though
winning is a lot. You know, you got to teach
them the fundamentals. You know how fun winning is. We
won the first tournament game we won was on a
walk off and spot if you play this video of
my little dude, Jackson, my son Ben got the leadoff

(18:00):
hit to get the rally going. We were losing three
to one. They ended up winning four to three on
a walk Did you say your son got the he
started started, the fucking started, the rally started the rally
two strikes and two outs and less enning two strikes,
two outs, lest inning and little Ben who just watching
the excitement for these kids and the parents. Then you say, well, shit,
winning was sort of fun too, winning right? You won

(18:24):
the right way? Okay, well, I mean, you know, I
know every parent has their videos, but I got to
share my little guys because I was so proud of them. Honestly,
as a dad, this was a probably a top five
moment for sure, watching these little kids enjoy five moment
as a parent. Not if you had that Stanley Cup
and the things you would have done with it. We've
I had the Stanley Cup in my twenties. Yeah, this
would be number twenty five on the less but no.

(18:45):
But as I started as a dad watching my son
and his little buddy celebrate this moment. Uh, this is
my dude, Jackson. Okay, hitting a walk off that blue
flame pitching machine. The sun comes running in. Yeah he's
already in. He already Okay, winning run on second. There

(19:07):
we go, boom Jackson. It's a rope my little dude
to Mari around to score. So I'm torn because look
at how freaking fun winning is. But do you want
to teach him the right way? The dilemmas of kids
had when a kid catches a ground ball, Yeah, you
don't throw your hands up. You try to make the

(19:29):
play so tough. I think those coaches are lame, trying
so hard to stay within the rules just to win
a game. You know what I heard happens the next list,
Like you're you're competing that hard against other five year olds.
That's kind of me. Let me give you the bullshit.
Does kind of mean that you were cheering that hard
in front of five year olds who just lost. I mean,

(19:51):
they're just little kids. So when I heard the bullshit,
that happens on the next level. Once the kids start pitching,
then the next bs thing is kids are being told
by their coach I don't even swing to get that
guy's pitch count up like this, always like no, it's
all about fundamentals at this age. And I think it
does maybe start younger than we were kids. I started

(20:13):
taking all this very serious around eight or nine years old.
I think that's a good I jumped into Little League
like wanting to win. I didn't play when I was
this little. This little you're just learning and having fun.
But you could learn and have fun by going through
the proper motions, not playing by these cornball rules like this.
And you know, it makes me think of the big

(20:34):
fundamental spot a legend, Tim Duncan. These fundamentals that you're
teaching them rich and props to you stick with them
for the rest of their life. So you're teaching these
kids how to throw. I think in the future they'll
have more of an advantage of these other kids who
haven't been throwing the first and again because they've been
putting their hands up and again. Could I could I
read it one more time? They're five, Yeah, exactly before

(20:57):
we get out of here. So fundamentals are playing to win.
Let us know at Covino and Rich at Fox Sports Radio,
hashtag over promised at what stage is it about winning?
You you showed me eight or not? You showed me
a video that yo. Remember when Ken Griffey Junior went
from the kid with a backwards hat to like old, chubby,
retired guy and you're like, yo, where did the last
twenty years got? And a crew neck? This is our

(21:19):
daily reminder that time's a fly in this week, Raphael
Devers went from the Red Sox to the San Francisco Giants,
and the Giants basically gave up nobody and got a
sluggers and Buster Posey's the guy. Now, if you're not
watching the Giants every day, you probably don't see Buster

(21:41):
Posey all the time. So when was the last time
he saw Buster Posey? I still think of baby Faced Catcher,
baby Face like superstar kid. He won his rookie year,
if I remember coractically right, he won the one series
he was a baby and now and this is not
a knock, he's a little he's a handsome, distinguished I

(22:01):
mean he he has the presence of a GM like, yeah,
I'm Buster Posey of the San Francisco Jenny, but it's
not the same guy. You remember, they're going.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
To thank the Boston Red Sox for being one of
the more poorly run organizations of the last five years.
Why do you guys hate having talented players?

Speaker 1 (22:18):
First you give up.

Speaker 4 (22:22):
In a bucket of balls, and now you let me
rob you of Raphael Devers for an unproven young pitcher.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
And by the way, how great would it be if
that's what he really said? Oh yeah, I mean that's
what he's thinking. But regardless, I'm looking at him and
he looks handsome. But it's not the guy you remember.
He looks great. It's not a knock. It's just a
reminder that time's flying. He's not that kid anymore. We're
all getting older. Yeah, you know that the rule that
you can't slide because of Buster Posey. That rule is

(22:51):
probably like twenty years old. Now, yeah, exactly, exactly. Enjoy
and don't forget Thursday is uh, well, chid, Today's Thursday
Tomorrow or we leave tonight. Tomorrow is when it all
goes down Circa in Las Vegas Pool Party Stadium, Swim.
Then tomorrow night we got a big party at the
Circle Lounge on the rooftop, and then Saturday Atomic golf

(23:12):
and then a big dinner Saturday night. All the RSVPs
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(23:34):
enjoy your Game six NBA Finals and thanks for hanging
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