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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
What Up?

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Danny g?

Speaker 3 (00:24):
What Up?

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Dan Byer?

Speaker 4 (00:25):
What Up?

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Fox Sports Radio Nation. Hope your day's better than Kawhi
and Steve Bomber's day before we get into midweek major
and all the fun today. That is the hottest story going.
And you and I were doing our Patreon show earlier
today as it was developing this Pablo Tory man and
he closed the book on Belichick and George on Hudson.
He's like, ooh, my next fascination is Kawhi Leonard and Balmer. Well,

(00:48):
he's doing some reporting, right, but he does sort of
lean into certain things pretty hard. The Jeorde Don Hudson thing,
the Belichick thing you referenced that who was on that
harder than him? Now he's unveiled this Kawhi Leonard story
where he reportedly was paid twenty eight million dollars for

(01:09):
a no show job. That's the headline. You're like, what
does that mean? A no show job with the Clippers? Right,
didn't Ren don't get that same contract with the Angels. Yeah,
but it was. Yeah, but this was a way to
get around the NBA salary cap. Now we're gonna make
this clear. We might use the word loophole, but it
wasn't a loophole at all. This is not legal in
the NBA. It's not like some crafty way to get paid.

(01:32):
It's not like deferring your payment like sho heyo tani.
This is not like a college donor decided to do
something nice, right right, No.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
There's a fine of up to four point five million
dollars for a first offense.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
This was a way to circumvent. That's the fancy word
to go around the NBA salary cap. You wrote that
word down because Big mike'said it, because I wrote it
down to I got to hear in the article, soll
over the place, guys, it's circumventing. Tory laid out the
alleged scandal scandal, isn't that your all airdresser? Yeah, scandal
scandal used to have rich a nice feathered haircut. He

(02:05):
laid out to Scandal on his program to Scandal, and
it says that he has direct quotes from legal documents
that made the argument that Leonard was paid twenty eight
million through a company owned by Balmer, who owns the Clippers.
If you don't know, to essentially do nothing. Now, that's
a pretty sweet deal, except it's not allowed in the NBA.

(02:27):
Bomber's accused of using the agreement as a way to
pay Leonard more than his contract would allow, which, if true,
is a violation of the NBA rules. Now my understanding
is it was for some like made up bunk company
where Kawhi Leonard never didate like a tree plan, tree.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Plant, tree planting.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
You tell me you couldn't get Kawhi in front of
a green screen just to say one time, like, hey
it's me Kawhi Leonard. So I was playing the tree right,
like hey, there's a salary cap in the NBA. But look,
I want Kawhi Leonard so bad. I'm going to figure
out a way to get him on the team. Give
him as much money as possible, but pay him an
extra twenty eight million dollars to solidify his time and

(03:07):
place with the Clippers through a company that doesn't even
really matter or exists. And the ramification was if he's
only on the Clippers, right, and Pablotry's all over this,
And like Danny g just said, if this is true,
major finds suspensions like.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
That's not a lass of one first round pick and
the possibility of avoiding contracts that are involved in any circumvention.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
How do you view this? Do you view this as, Hey,
he's just a rule breaker. Good for him, he got
what he wanted. Hey, there's a few draft picks. He's
still got Kawhi. How do you view something like this?
I'm there's two types of people, oh, players and haters.
Thank you, Taylorshift. No, you've said that before. Rule breakers,

(03:51):
people that are like, you know, rules are you know,
a mild suggestion? And then other people that are like,
I'm a rules guy. I thought you're gonna say pink
or red star a burst guys. Pink, by the way,
both are good blue cheese, or or ranch both are
good blue cheese. There's two types. Oh, I'm not answering.

(04:12):
There are two cards of love that you want to know.
There are cads love. There's two we do that. We
do that in Philadelphia outside of garbagean once in a while.
There's two types of people, and those people are as
rich said rules people, rules people, Twizzlers people or red vice. No,

(04:34):
there's two types of people. The keiths or domatically rules
are rule breakers. I'm a rules follower. I am. I
believe in rules. I believe in structure. I believe that
there's a set of rules in play to keep idiots
in line. I may seem I'm gonna push the rules
until you tell me why. Pushing the rules is not

(04:55):
rule breaking. You push the rules, you you dance on
the line a little bit. This is stomping over the line.
This is just straight up you paid a guy twenty
million dollars extra to guarantee that he's on your team.
I have a question when when, in fact, there's a
salary cap for a reason, when someone is guilty of
such an offense, are you guys gonna respect it? More?

(05:19):
Of Bomber and choir like got him, got us? Here's
the thing they would have won. If they win, then
you're like, yeah, it was worth it. Who cares he
made it happen? Yeah? That really, that's winning solves everything.
What they say, right, that would happen here too. Yeah,
I'm saying, do you admire the Yeah, I did it.

(05:40):
It could be, you know, performance enhancing drugs.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
It could be.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Remember the dude a couple of years back, is it
Juicy small Ley? Yeah, but the guy's still denying it.
He's I saw the documentary on Netflix. He's innocent, he says,
still denies all his actions. You know what, it reminds
me down on a brand new documentary, he's actually worth
the watch. Let me, can I just say something. Yeah,
I never gave a deadly squat about Juicy Smaley. I

(06:03):
really didn't. I was like, what a pathetic story, what
a loser. The documentary where he doubles down, the new
one that just came out, it's actually pretty good. So
it does make you think that he was being boozled
by the media a little bit. A guy like Juicy
Smaley doubles down in lies.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
I know it's a weird analogy, but you and I
both watch Love is Blind. There was a dude that
went on that show and he had like girlfriends at home,
and he came to the reunion and he's like, yeah,
I don't know what you want to tell you. I lied,
I got be ouches like he was like straight up, like,
YO caught. So I ask you when someone's caught, athlete, musician, politician,
whatever the case may be, do you admire the fourthright, like, hey,

(06:44):
I tried to get away with it and I got caught.
Or do you think Balmer Kawhi are gonna try to
be esday way out of this and make us feel stupid.
It's case by case, man, Because speaking of documentaries, if
you watch America's team, Jerry Jones seemed to break all
the rules in the NFL, but he just paved the
new path. He's like, yeah, rules are for fools. Watch
me show everybody how to make real money in this league.

(07:05):
And he changed the league forever.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Were short sighted.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
People were very short sighted. He's like, I'm a businessman.
He changed how the game worked and how they made money.
He changed the league.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
This is different than that.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
It is it is, but he did break the rules.
So that's what I'm saying. It's case by case. That
was for the greater good of everybody. It seemed to
benefit everybody. I don't see how this benefits anyone, but
Kawhi Leonard and his pocket. It's not even benefiting the Clippers.
They're not winning with him, you know, he's not even
playing all that often. And if they really wanted to

(07:38):
create a loophole, rich is right, where was Kawhi with
his fake bootleg local feeling advertisement of Kawhi Leonard? And
these are the trees that I'm playing more attention attention
to it. There should be something in his back pocket.
We're like, no, here he is. We have the proof

(07:59):
right here. He's a spokesman. They gotta have to.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah, but once they found out Bomber owned that supposed company.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
I wonder what tipped off Pablo Tory to like further
investigate this. Oh it was the janitor from Billy Madison. Yeah. Now, seriously,
someone had to have a scoop and they fed him
this scoop Unless he just somehow came across these documents
or he had a hunch, I don't know. Good for him, though,
it's a it's a big story. Is becoming the uh

(08:29):
Ernie anasts. Now there's a lack of actual investigative reporting
in the day's world, right, so you got to give
him credit for that. And as this story develops. It
may benefit the NBA in the future because if anyone
else is up to this, it'll put a stop. I'm
sure there's a lot of people shaking in their boots
right now, like, oh man, I hope I'm not next,

(08:51):
because maybe he's just the first of many that.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
The fake company, by the way, is called Aspiration.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Oh it's beautiful.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
You know.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
I'm an ass operations. I'm with these as I grab
a lot of ass beirations. I'm always fascinated, but I'm
always fascinated how we tend to give more credit to
people than they deserve. Sometimes, like Cavino, you always say,
your dad will say things like yeah, I heard on
the radio, gotta be true, and you're like, Dad, I'm

(09:22):
on the radio. He still does that, Yeah I heard
on the radio, Dad. Again, Buffoon's like me, are on
the radio? Guy is no more credible than your goofy son.
And I think it's interesting. Sometimes there is an investigation
and you're like, was it really a good investigation if
they never got to the bottom of it. I always
think about Mantiteo and how until one reporter or so decided, like,

(09:47):
you know, let me even look this Kokkooi girl up.
He ran with that, and everyone just sort of kooy.
He wasn't a boogeyman. Wasn't it a Linney Kokooi or
something that is that the name?

Speaker 5 (10:01):
And he didn't know at first and then he found
out he just didn't.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
I always felt so bad for Mantitao. He feels like
just a really genuine guy that couldn't believe someone would
trick him. But there was a time period where it's like, Wow,
if anyone did any investigating at all, this would have
blown up way sooner. But it seems like that's a
weird story to really press and investigate, even though it
became a big story, right, Like someone had to really

(10:31):
have a what's the expression Give me another expression besides
besides the one I keep I keep wanting to say,
they got a real blank on for that real, real,
real stiffy, No, a real hankering. They got a real, real,
real joy, a real joy of getting to the bottom
of this. This one is like it's cheating kind of right,

(10:52):
It's it's just kind of is that how you look
at it, is that that's just cheating. It's not kind
of It's not like, yo, did I cheat. I kept
my socks on.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
And the more you find out too, it says here.
Tory's investigation also uncovered that Leonard was supposed to be
paid seven million by Aspire, a company that lists Leonard
as its manager.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Damn manager of what he manages? Man?

Speaker 2 (11:16):
What is he?

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Bobby? The brain? Heenon? So I think that's the difference here, Like, Yeah,
we see a lot of these random stories uncovered. I
don't know the motive behind a lot of these stories.
Just I guess investigative journalism and breaking a story's fun
in that world and in that game. But this is
just straight up cheating. This is the NBA. You know,
you have to nip it in the butt. This is
one of importance and significance, And man, I bet your

(11:39):
Kawhi Leonard is playing real dumb right now. Here's a
guy who never talks as it is, He's definitely keeping
his mouth shut about this. I'll be honest. My instinct
is like, who cares to go that deep into But
you know when people do, I'm always fascinated, I'll be honest.
The documentary is the stories breaking You're great, I less not.
I watch the one you guys recommended about the catfish,

(12:01):
unknown number, unknown number, the high school catfish. You gotta
start thinking if no one really dove into it, you
would never find out. And then when you do find out,
you're like, man, people are wild. Now, Kawhi has been
a clipper for years now. So if Paboloty or someone
didn't say this seems a little odd, tell me dig
a little deeper it.

Speaker 6 (12:23):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (12:23):
It also reminds me too rich, Like how would I
have got to wait? Yeah, what you could find if
you're digging deep enough, you know. And now I'm not
saying everyone has skeletons, but as my as my dad
always said, you know, if you're looking, if you look
hard enough, you'll find something on everybody. Yeah, you know.
It's then you wonder why I keep my phone private,

(12:44):
because if you look far enough, you'll probably see something
that's a little sketchy. You know what. The crazy part
is someone runs for office. It could be a local
politician or big time you know, national figure. They have
done stuff in their past that never have even been touched.
But the minute you're under the microscope, someone is there

(13:05):
waiting to try to find some dirt on you. Yeah,
and Danny G's right. The difference here and these other
salacious stories that we're bringing up is that this is
actually cheating in the NBA. This is doing everything you
can because you're a rich guy with deep pockets to
get that superstar you had your eye on, and you
thought you found a loophole. But it's not a loophole.
You just went around the salary cap, which is not

(13:27):
legal in the NBA, and you just cheated. So I honestly,
I think repercussions should be stronger than that. Danny g
to set a precedence. Dare I say, and I'm not
a again I said, I'm not a big rules guy,
but I think this is if this is true, and
it's straight up a careless I even feel, you know what,
I'm assaulted about the first of many, you know what,
I'm insulted by it. I think Bomber's the only guy

(13:49):
who's used to getting what he wants find a way
by how simplistic it is, like really like a half
made up tree company twenty eight million dollars, like try hard,
convince me more, make a product to make them the
spokesperson like spire. It just seems like it seems so
half fast done that. I almost feel like suspensions should
be in place.

Speaker 5 (14:10):
Do you think they got there tried to get it
passed because he's a Clipper. They're like, Okay, we could
do hairstylist or or something with trees. Yeah, I'm a
clipper trees for twenty eight million dollars, he's the best
that there is around and nobody will notice.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
I just think it was so half aass, Like if
you were to be like rich, try to hide twenty
eight million dollars for displayer. I feel like if you
put a team of marketing people in the case, they
could have easily figured it out to manipulate. They could
have invested a million dollars to make it look completely
real and coved and gave it. Got twenty seven to.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Clear up the two names of the companies because what
they did here, it's two companies funneling money together. So
the KL two Aspire, that's a company that Leonard was
supposedly the manager of. Aspiration is the supposed tree company
from Clippers owner Steve Bomer.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Oh they even I think the spelling of the company
tipped off Tory A, S, S and ir.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yeah, Like the similarities between the names of the two companies.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
To me, guys, I'm even more fascinated by again the
simple fact that it seems like the effort level put
in for this cover up because I feel like they
could be really they could be irs implications, tax implications.
I mean, you talk about companies that are sort of
faking money to a guy like, I'm sure this keeps
going deeper.

Speaker 5 (15:25):
I think their best excuse is that Kawhi was hurt.
That's why he couldn't show up for work like at all.
That's why he did nothing because he was all in
the court actually wanted him to do work, but he
was always hurt and there was nothing that we could
do a.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Tree management man.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
So uh, Pablo Tori and getting no Christmas card from
Kawhi Leonard, I can tell you that so interesting story.
But again, much like like I don't know is a
random example. I just popped in my head when Garret
Cole got in trouble for Spider Tank, right, yeah, He's like, ook,
hey man, I'm the guy everybody's coming down on. But
everybody knows that this is what goes on in the league.

(16:05):
I'm not the only guy. I really believe these rich dudes.
There's more than one rich dude pulling shady moves like
this to get who they want you. There's a lot
of other players in these situations. They oh, snap, you
know it's about to drop.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
As you see, it's hard to hide these sort of shenanikis.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Well, I mean they hit it this long. But you're right.
But I think this is the first of many. So
I think I think Tory exposed or blew the lid
on something that's about to explode.

Speaker 5 (16:33):
I have a question because if this were the lakers
of the Celtics, I think we'd be losing our mind.
Do we look at the Clippers as they have nots
of always being the Clippers, or do we look at them.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
You know what? It's almost like they can't even get
this right.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
Yeah, that's yeah, that's right, that's pretty Yeah, that's accurate.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Like these Clippers they can't. They go, they go out
of their way, cheat try to manipulate the system, and
they still can't even make a playoff front. No, you're right, Dan,
it doesn't matter who it is, because if it was
like Oklahoma City or Celtics or the scene that's won
in the past few years, you'd be like whoa, and
you know what, look at stuff at football. I think

(17:13):
if the flight gate is not Tom Brady the Patriots,
if it was, like if Kyler Murray and the Cardinals
were doing the flate gate, I think they'd be like,
come on, man, just fix the next storry Like it's
it's who does it? And hold on, you're right, you're
right on by the way. As far as uh, it
can't be the only guy it's I doubt it. It's

(17:33):
like if you see just guy. You know, when you
see some guy getting caught doing some scandal stuff in
Vegas or something, you think he's the only guy. He's
just the guy that got caught. He's the guy that
got caught and they're gonna do further investigations now to
put a stop to that. It is cheating and man,
as far as a business man, I can't criticize Steve
ballmer right, I'm Steve Cavino. Barely a thousand are paying

(17:57):
Chance support, but the twenty eight million dollars for that
dude and extra Like, I'm like, why why why Kawhi Leonard?
He was he was great at the time. Quadruple doink.
When Jeremy Lynn was still playing in the NBA, before
he retired now six years ago.

Speaker 7 (18:18):
Cuh.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Why the reason is you think back to the major
announcement and the uncovering of him finally deciding to go
to the Clippers. So many teams wanted him, and it
came down to the Lakers and the Clippers.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
In retrospect, he got ripped off. Well, that's what I
think about it. You forget Spurs Championship. Wait till the
Raptors champions Championship. Why hasn't been the scene? And then
remember it it was a battle of what LA team?
You're lucky if he's playing Balmber got the raw deal
here twenty eight million dollars. Kai got to do nothing? Kawhi?
What was it? He was supposed to be out planning trees?

(18:52):
He was. It was just a I can't say loophole
because it wasn't loophole. Was just straight up wrong. It's
just breaking the rules. It was just a made up
thing where they used that as a reason to give
him twenty eight million extra dollars. Where do trees come
into play?

Speaker 8 (19:06):
Though?

Speaker 1 (19:07):
That's a tree company.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Because the company that Bomber funded was a tree planting company.

Speaker 9 (19:12):
Let me just say that you'll never find twenty eight
million dollars in a tree planting company. Okay, you get
what you pay for when you hire landscapers and people.
I've worked in that industry, and it's you're not going
to be like, oh, this is a one million dollar tree.
You're playing in the trees that cost you know, a
couple hundred bucks, maybe one thousand bus.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
I just had a tree pulled out of my yard,
an old dead tree. Yeah, a couple hundred bucks. Yeah,
it's it's not a lucrative business. It's a hard at
work business to make.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
Tree trimming is lucrative, though.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
It's three burial pods to.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Tory found out that Bomber funded fifty million dollars into
this tree planting company.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Was money growing on these trees?

Speaker 6 (19:48):
Apparently?

Speaker 1 (19:52):
I was even trying to be a joke, Sam, You
know what, usually I mocked your jokes. Well, Hey, your
thoughts on Kawhi, your thoughts on Bomber. Go to expresspros
dot com to find the location near you. That's expresspros
dot com. I'm Steve Cavino, that is Rich Davis. Hey, Express,
I'm looking for a face from my plea tree planting company.

(20:14):
What about twenty eight million dollars. Must be nice, must
be nice. Steve Bomber on yours one of the Clippers said,
Dennygs are the Clippers of comment.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Yeah. They told the La Times in a statement, neither
mister Bomber nor the Clippers circumvented the salary cap were
engaged in any misconduct related to Aspiration. Any contrary assertion
is false. The team ended its relationship with Aspiration years
ago during the twenty two to twenty three season, when
Aspiration defaulted on its obligations follow the money Bomber's company, though,

(20:49):
It says this is how this came out. It says
a former Aspiration finance department employee had his voice heard
on Torre's podcast and that's when it started being.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
Invest Okay, so this is a breaking and developing story
from Pablo Torre's podcast about Kawhi Leonard and Steve Bomber.
And again it's not something that's allowed in the NBA.
So as of now, it's all alleged. Let's keep that
in mind. But well, these are big accusations, you know,
and you and Danny G were you know, there's gotta

(21:21):
be He said he saw the documents. You and Danny
g were having some good conversation off the air. Why
don't you tell everyone what you guys were talking about.
You were making some analogies with the sopranos, and I
thought it was actually a really clever anellogan. It's really
hard to explain. It was the story of Artie Buco
and how he called out Tony for sort of sopranoing

(21:41):
him as a friend, and Tony's like, well, what do
you mean. Basically, Tony was thinking way ahead of Artie Buco.
He's a businessman, so he knew that if Arti Buco's
restaurant deal fell through and the money didn't come through,
that hey, he had Buco in his back pocket and
he ate for free at his restaurant the rest of
his life. The point is Tony Soprano was always thinking

(22:05):
a step ahead, and we got to give credit to
businessman like Steve Bomber for always thinking a step ahead.
There might be a reason that this story came out,
and there might be a reason he did it. And
that step ahead is hey, if I ever get caught,
I guess slapped on the wrist. Who cares? And maybe
I get out of this deal in the NBA unless

(22:25):
it's the NBA winners are not built on draft picks.
You could argue with me, but it's really based on
free agency, right, who gets what, big guy? I think
Steve Bomber and the Clippers were thinking getting Kawi in
that moment. Yeah, it didn't work out, but think about
in that moment when it was like, all right, it's
us first, the Lakers. How are we going to make
a splash in Los Angeles? We have a new arena coming.

(22:46):
The Clippers may have a little momentum. Make it happen
at all costs. We need a star player. We need
to get this done. And the whole tony soprano thing
we were talking about off the hair is people are
in that power position for a reason. They see the
the again, not loopholes. They see the ways to circumvent.
They see the step ahead. They see things that you're
not thinking about, and they could envision these things and

(23:09):
how they pan out if God forbid things go wrong.
And Steve Bomber knew probably way in advance, that this
is what would happen, and he was okay with that.
And you know what, I know, I'm speaking of fiction,
but think of any movie or drama you watch what
do they always do. It's like the plot line of everything,
follow the money, and they always, you know, they'll always

(23:30):
call up some you know, foreign accounts or something like
and it links to a company and that's how they
find the bad guy. So, I mean, follow the money.
Steve Bomber's connected.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Shocking by the way that former Aspiration finance department employee
said other celebrities were paid to endorse Aspiration and its
supposed chet planning operation, Robert Downey Junior, Leonardo DiCaprio, and Drake.
He says, every other celebrity endorsement, though combined, would have
not met even a quarter of Kawhi Leonard's endorsement.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Do you think those were done for other things like
maybe a concert, maybe an appearance, maybe something like dude,
rich people find ways, and maybe that's his weird way
of laundering money to people. I mean, that's you know,
you got to assume that rich people try to stay
within the legal loopholes and not accusing Bomber or doing
anything illegal. But hey man, it's like, if you don't

(24:21):
think he's thinking a step ahead of guys like you
and I. You don't become a billionaire by being a Putts.
That was the point and the Soprano's analogy was when
Artie Buco realized, man, Tony Soprano was just thinking one
step ahead of me. He realized, well, that's why he's
Tony Soprano, and this is why he's Steve Bomber. So
I'm not saying he's a mafia guy, but I'm saying

(24:44):
he's a businessman. Then, whether or not this is true
or confirmed down the line, it's an interesting story. Doug,
you're on a Maryland what's up, buddy?

Speaker 3 (24:52):
Hey, guys, Yeah, but there's no salary caps for actors. Okay, Yeah,
Well this is quine essential example of a ribery.

Speaker 10 (25:01):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
And I told Danny g that more than likely because
I'm assuming that the commissioner hasn't completed his investigation yet.
This is this is Daniel Schnyder territory.

Speaker 11 (25:12):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
I honestly believe that after everything's done, and if this
is all true, then he's going to be forced to
sell that team.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yeah, there could be bigger I think repercussions.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Here, and I don't think the NBA would go that far.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
Maybe not that far, because he's got deep pockets and
he's also like Set is an unlikable guy, Bomber is
a likable guy. This factors.

Speaker 5 (25:34):
There's also the point of I think that there's equity.
And we know that the NBA isn't always on the
up and out. But when he bought the clippers of
the whole that they were in one of them so
bad that he extremely paid way more than market value
so he could get them. But that name was so
tainted that yeah, this may but there's I don't think
there's any way I would be beyond shock too if

(25:58):
they were.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
To remove And you know why because even though this
team scandalous, Bomber for the most part's reputation is solid
right like dance to compare to the Dan Snyder, who
people hated in Washington.

Speaker 5 (26:09):
And as you guys have been saying, like they have
penalties in place for this, so it's not like this
is what do we do here? This is unfounded, like
there are fines for this, There are things that happen
if you violate these sort of things. I don't think
it's enough for removal of team great.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Thank you for the phone call. Thank you, Dan Bayer.
The numbers eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox. That's
the big story of the day, and we'll keep you
posted as it develops.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
You guys do think the penalty should be greater.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
Though, definitely? What is it again? The draft pad up.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
To five point five million dollars in fines. I think
it said one first round pick, and then you could
they could void the contract that's involved.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
We're talking about dude like billionaires for the most he
has to wear croucks for a week. Oh oh yeah,
I mentioned that. Yeah, that's pretty steep.

Speaker 5 (26:57):
CBS Sports did a an article off of this, and
they pointed to in the mid nineteen nineties, the Knicks,
we're trying to get Michael Jordan, and we're going to
try to do a sort of deal to give him
money through Sheridan the hotel and pay him that way. Now,
ultimately NBA rules the Bulls could pay him whatever they
wanted to pay him, and could pay more than anybody else.

(27:18):
But that was a way that the Knicks, who had
a certain amount of money to pay, we're gonna maybe
try to work around.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Yeah, Michael Jordan, could they have? If that was not
say it was legit though, that wouldn't be any breaking
of the rules, right If the Knicks were to work
a deal with the Sheridan, but it really did come
from the Sheridan. Would that be okay if it was
just contingent on him signing with the Knicks, Well, I
think it's.

Speaker 5 (27:43):
I mean, I I don't want to say they're getting
into a gray area, but I thought, yeah, to the
to the point of I'm just I'm trying to think
of a company that is a Coca Cola in Atlanta. Okay,
let's just say that way, Like if you were to
sign with the Hawk and Coca Cola is like, all right,
we're going to sign you to an endorsement deal.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
You know.

Speaker 5 (28:04):
Is that Are you like not going to get a
Coca Cola deal if you signed with the Hornets or
is it? I just, I just I don't think that
that would necessarily be illegal as opposed to what this
sounds like as just a fraud of a.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
Company, because I believe that probably happens all the time, Like, yeah,
you're gonna get this deal, but it's contingent when you
sign with this this.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Is the city to come to. You can get sponsored
by the companies that are.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
His Yes, And that's something we don't think about that often.
And this story again, is a is a BS tree company?
Was there any validity to the actual company then, But
don't realize Michael Parsons has a cheese Kurds deal in place.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, That's what people are trying to find out,
is if there's any validity at all to this tree
planting company. Tore says he investigated and can't find any
evidence that it was a real thing, this deal with Kawhi.
So that's what we're hearing so far. But I'm sure
more is going to come out in the next few days.

Speaker 12 (29:04):
You know.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
I don't want to sound like gossipy little schoolgirls, but
it's an interesting story, really cool, interesting story. We'll keep
you posted. And that being said, speaking of updates, let's
go to our guy Dan but and just add a
little bit more context. The Knicks and Sheridan were owned
by the same company at the time. Okay, so there's
where some of that would have been a little not

(29:27):
on the up and up root that. Hey, you know,
advertise this Times Square Sheridan if you will, Michael Jordan. Anyway,
In other NBA news, Dallas Mavericks and Forward PJ. Washington
agreed to a four year extension. Now onto the NFL.
Speaking of Micah Parsons. The Packers edge rusher limited in
practiced today in advance of their showdown with the Lions
on Sunday to open up the season. Tomorrow, it's the

(29:48):
Cowboys and Eagles. Trayvon digs Off the injury report for
Dallas has his tackle Tyler Geitton, both expected to start
tomorrow in Philadelphia. Time for our tire Iraq Plate of
the Day. Oh yeah, a grand Salami for the Yankees

(30:10):
high fly ball.

Speaker 11 (30:12):
I'll chill way back on the track looking up. Say y'all,
Sam Slam for Grisham. This magical season continues. It's sick nothing.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Can the Yankees start losing?

Speaker 4 (30:24):
Please?

Speaker 1 (30:25):
You see that fall behind? I'm sorry behind. It's not Grisham.
Is grish him? Swaggy Tea, He is him. You guys
were so down on your teams a few weeks ago.
Oh Man, Grisham's the guy who needs to We got Grisham.
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be Now that Grisham him Grisham gris he's him the
Grand Salami he hit. Did you see the controversy on
the next pitch? Yeah, man, So this is just a

(31:08):
it's more of a visual. But the picture for the astros,
please remind me the name. Do you mind looking it
up real quick? Well it's Framber Valdez Franval Okay, So
Valdez is shaking off. The catcher's like, yo, step off
the mound, step off, and Valdez doesn't and he lets
up the Grand Salami to Grisham changed the whole game around. Yeah,

(31:30):
the very next pitch, he's so mad that he just
throws a ninety five mile per hour heater into the
chest of his catcher. And then because the catcher got
quote crossed up and was expecting a breaking ball or
a change up. And there's a lot of speculation that
it was like a spiteful like he denied it like
a whole type of move. Like so you get what
we're saying. The catcher shook off the pitcher told him

(31:54):
to hey, step off, and they had a miscommunication, gives
up a grand slam, mad at the catcher because of it.
On the next pitch drills the catcher. I believe it.
I believe the story because you see how fired up
he was. So again he's accused of intentionally intentionally crossing
up his catcher because he was mad at him because

(32:14):
of the grand slam. I mean and trash behavior was
you might say, and the catcher, by the way, Caesar
Salazar was catching, he might say, how could a major
league catcher get mixed up? But if you're expecting, you know,
seventy eight eighty two mile an hour breaking ball away
or change up or change up, and then al a sudden,
you get inside high heat or something. Then it caught him.

(32:35):
It hit It hit the catcher right in the chest.
And by the way, Salazar, the catcher looked at him like,
what what's up? Valdez turned around like he was pissed.
Even I think Vulpi was at bat. Vaulpi was like, yo, damn,
that just happened. They're denying it, and they were saying
it was a mix up, but it seemed pretty evident.
You know that, you know there was some spike going on.
You ever see like a high school game where they
do this city umpire? Yeah, yeah, you see that was

(32:58):
like odd clips where like it could be worsane. Dude,
you're throwing high heat like that. I've seen women's softball
where these women are mad at the umpire and the
catcher just sort of doesn't go for the ball and
the pitcher whips in the ball right at the umpire's head.
So hey, listen, we're gonna get to a bunch coming
up midweek Major and Mike's words of wisdom, gonna give
away a prize next Inside Yankees bet between Aaron Judge

(33:24):
and Jazz Chisholm. We talked about it briefly. I thought
it was fun. They made like a friendly bet with
each other. Oh, I know the bet they made, but
you probably talk about mostly on your corner Yankee chat.
You probably have a going on.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
No.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
But the bet was, now who has more home runs?
Who has more home runs than stolen bases combined? You
remember that because Chisholm was like, that should be the stat.
It should be a stat home runs and stolen bases combined.
He said, if thirty, thirty and forty forty matters so
much that should be a stack. Okay, So where are
they at right now? I looked it up because Chisholm
hit two bombs last night. He's winning fifty four to

(33:57):
fifty two. So Aaron Judge, give me those numbers again,
fifty four to fifty two, Ugus Won Soto has sixty
four combined. Just just say you know, just let you know,
all right, thank you, Donald Truce.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
If O Tommy wasn't pitching this season, he'd have a
yall blown out the water.

Speaker 8 (34:16):
Great.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
No, But I looked it up because I was curious.
I was like, what was that bet at Lon Soto's
got twenty seven stolen bases and thirty seven home runs.
Chishom's gonna end up thirty thirty probably, So he's at
twenty eight home runs and twenty six stolen bases, and
Judge is at forty three home runs, and where is
he like nine stolen bases. So again, Jazz is in

(34:39):
the lead fifty four to fifty two. But anyway, Frank
Franken's like getting a bed jump with three steps and
judges at second.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
I think that.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Should be a stat though, if we're gonna put emphasis
on forty forty and fifty to fifty and thirty thirty?
How does that not count? So anyway, then you know,
who know who would have the highest total? Ever? Am
I wrong by guessing? What? Remember when Acuna did it?
That's a good he have like he had the forty
home runs obviously, but then he have like sixty seventy
stolen bases that he might have the highest toll. That's

(35:07):
kind of cool. Yeah, I don't know. Was Otani had
fifty to fifty?

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Right?

Speaker 1 (35:11):
So he had fifty to fifty? Yeah, officially the first
to do it. So just giving you the update there,
big Yankees fan riches a Mets guy, Danny g Dodgers Sam? Sam?
Who's your team? Baseball? Did you forget?

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Sorry?

Speaker 1 (35:28):
I was listening to something else. What was the proclaimer
he's preparing?

Speaker 9 (35:33):
I was preparing the words of wisdom from that nice
my favorite baseball team. He's let's say the Creed I was.
I grew up a Phillies fan. You know nice all right?
By the way, I like the Dodgers too.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
I look at you. When Otani went fifty to fifty,
do you remember what his final numbers were? Because I
guarantee it wasn't one hundred and fourteen. That year Ronald
Acunya Junior. He hit forty one home runs and he
had seventy three stolen bases. I wonder if that's is
that the right? I mean, think about who has this
had a better.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Most combined or that were forty forty.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
I would say most. I would say find most combined
has to be Aris Jr.

Speaker 5 (36:12):
No, And it's kind of a tricky thing. Ricky Henderson
stole one hundred and thirty bases, one hundred and forty.
But that's why I wanted to make sure talking like
forty forty guys who qualified him.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
I think I think to make what Camino is saying
that's stat I think you have to go thirty thirty
mets fair twenty twenty is mild. I think still solid though.
I mean, yeah, Ricky, the Ricky, the Ricky was just stilling.
The Ricky would get on base and steal two bases
every time. Good call, dB, thank you for making us
feel stupid. But no, no, no, but but I don't know.

(36:47):
But if you're thinking of that home run stole base,
because Ricky did hit ten twenty home runs in years, right,
he hit some he had some years, but I do
think that if you say minimum thirty home runs like
a guy that was the thirty thirty club. No, I
don't think anyone's touching Akunya Junior with forty one and
seventy three. I had a year man. So anyway, I
hope your teams are winning. Every Wednesday, we do Midweek

(37:11):
Major So we do that later on today the biggest
stories in sports and pop culture. But we also do
something called Mike's Wednesday Words of Wisdom. All you have
to do is listen and repeat verbatim. Could I give
you one fun fact in the in the vein of
Dan Bayer when he just made me feel like a dunce.
Leave your vein out of this. I had a buddy

(37:33):
give me a trivia question. This is one where you
could absolutely trick anyone because it's like one of those
semantic Okay, one of my softball buddy says a bit,
You'll never guess what Major League baseball player in history
has the most go ahead home runs in history, And
the answer is Ricky Henderson, because we can see has
the most leadoff home run. So start off anytime you

(37:53):
start off a game, if you hit a home run
one nothing, there's your go ahead home run. So that's
like one of those like wan wah trivia questions, and
so who has the most go ahead home runs in history?
The Ricky rest in peace? All right, you want to
do this? Mike'shere, it's a wisdom. Let's kick it. Oh,
it's time for the guy that runs this place.

Speaker 5 (38:12):
Just for clarification, guys, Big Mike does not run this place.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
He is not in charge of everything. He has no
power over really anybody here. He does not run this place.

Speaker 12 (38:21):
It's Big Mike's words of wisdom on a Wednesday.

Speaker 6 (38:32):
Healing is more about accepting pain and learning to coexist
with it than it is about eliminating all suffering, which
is impossible.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Was Mike on the turlet? When do you recorded that?

Speaker 3 (38:48):
One?

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Sounded like he was inside of coffin.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
I know.

Speaker 9 (38:51):
That's some pretty sage advice, though I know you know
it's not. It's serious. Yeah, very serious, definitely gonna nothing
lighthearder to fun about that at all.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
I'd be rich. I was gonna say it was long too.
We're gonna have to play it again, I think for
a winner. All more time, Sam, one more time. Okay,
here we go.

Speaker 6 (39:09):
Healing is more about accepting pain and learning to coexist
with it than it is about eliminating all suffering, which
is impossible.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Mike was in the mood. I guess so if you
could repeat that verbatim, we give you a bribery ball
an NFL and official NFL near football uh cn R
on FSR NERF football in the form of an iouse.
Mike knows. This supposed to be like a life fun game, right, Okay,
let's get let's get the tones going. Two weeks ago,

(39:41):
it's words of wisdom were like real fake boobs can't
be fake. If I could see him like that was
his words of wisdom two weeks ago, there's no limits
on it, right, he went deep. This was like Confucius. Hey,
we're here to learn some stuff. Eight seven seven ninety
nine on Fox. If you could repeat it, you Enterprise
eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. And while we

(40:01):
get the phone calls going, yeah, let's talk about your
boy who just became your boy today, Novak Djokovic again,
who had a big win at the US Open. He
ended the US's dreams of moving forward and advancing, right,
Taylor Fritz, is that the guy that lost but Djokovic
made a nice speech and he did a little dance. Yeah,

(40:26):
and you know what, it sort of hit me right
here in the quartos on in the heart because he
gave his daughter a shout out. Take a listen.

Speaker 13 (40:33):
It's twenty minutes to midnight here tewod September. It's my
daughter's birthday, so this is a big present for her. Actually,
the dance in the end, it was she's gonna rate
me tomorrow. How was the dance because she told me
how to dance. It's K pop demon Hunters. Saw the

(40:57):
Pop is the name of the song.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
Obviously it's a big thing.

Speaker 13 (41:03):
Globally for teenagers and for kids. But I didn't know
about it before. My daughter told me a few months
ago about it. So we're at home doing different choreographies
and this is one of them. So hopefully I'll make
her smile when she wakes up tomorrow morning.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
You're Masda Pop. You're Masda Pop. I got an eight
year old daughter. I get it. I coached girl softball.
All they want to hear is K pop Demon Hunters.
So to me, I listen. Novak Djokovic already a champion,
but now I look at him as a guy that
humanized himself. He's caring about doing dances with his daughter,

(41:40):
his daughter, Tara Djokovic, who's eight years old and is
a big fan of the demon Hunter thing everybody's talking about.
By the way, if you're not living that life, that
movie has broken all streaming records for Netflix. It's the
most dream movie ever on Netflix. And it's really just

(42:01):
a movie about K pop animated stars that have to
fight demons. It's ridiculous, but every week in the nation,
every kid loves it. I told you my first practice
for my daughter's eight you girls softball team, and they
were like coach Rich, Coach Rich. The whole time at
the bluetooth speaker. All they wanted to hear was on
repeat Demon Hunters, Demon Hunters. So when I see Novak

(42:21):
Djokovic made you emotional, it made me emotional. I see
him winning, you know, a big moment moving on in
the US Open, and he's doing choreography that he's doing
with his daughter in the living room. It was really endearing.
A yeah, there you go. I was gonna say cute,
but that wasn't the word, and it was. It was
really endearing and nice to see. So the point here
is if you weren't a fan before, you might be

(42:44):
now because you don't see Djokovic to tennis player. You
see Djokovic to dad. You see the person. You see
this guy just trying to make his daughter happy and
make his daughter smile, and that's a really nice thing.
And that humanizes him and makes him more relatable. And
that's what we're getting at now. And that's why Comino,

(43:04):
that's why I will end up rooting for a certain players.
It made me like him a lot more. Listen, dude,
and I've never seen stupid K pop demon hunter. I
live in the in the neighborhood next to his, but
a lot of people you see Matthew Stafford out and
about with his daughters, and you see clips of him
and his daughters, You're like, humanize him. I think of
Drew Brees like a subtle brag. Right, there's a Stafford

(43:27):
in the neighborhood. If you live, if you live in
my neighborhood, you know that the Staffords are out and
about all the time. Up with the Staffords. L a bro. Yeah,
you don't live in Korea Town.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
Pound who lives down the street, who lives down the
street from me? The Black Ghostbuster, Ernie.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
Ernie Hudson, Ernie Hudson. Yeah, he's in great shape. He's
one hundred and seventy five years old. You know, he's
in great shape.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
That guy.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
I think of Drew Brees holding his son with the
headphones when he won the Super Bowl. You know, say like,
don't say things like that on the radio, because then
the buss is never gonna give you a raise. Oh,
you're right, I love uh Yeah, I live Trailer Parkers, right,
so that was soach lives. I live in a van
down by receied it with daniel Lewis's mom in a
crappy apartment.

Speaker 4 (44:20):
Right.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
I think about how shows like Receiver, shows like Quarterback
NBA starting five, these these reality shows. Why do we
all love Kirk Cousins? Now, why do you have a
soft spot because he gets his haircut at great clips?
Why do you have a soft spot for you know,
Justin Jefferson?

Speaker 8 (44:40):
Right?

Speaker 1 (44:40):
All right, So basically we open it up to you.
Fox Sports Radio Nation eight seven seven ninety nine, O Fox.
The moments that humanized somebody and made you a fan,
made you like them more. Maybe you already were a fan,
but you liked them even more because they were humanized
in the moment. Tell us who it is and what
the moment was. And of course we're still taking phone
calls for Mike's Wednesday eight Words of Wisdom looking for

(45:01):
a winner.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
Now, no, we're not taking calls. First time ever Mike's
been shut out. Really, Yeah, the lines are usually melting
during this game.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
Well, no one wanted to repeat that.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Nobody could repeat it.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Apparently everyone's getting it wrong. I eight seven, seven, nine
nine on Fox. Hey, prize is up for grabs, And
of course we'll take your phone calls on those moments
where a player, I'll give you one. A celebrity doesn't
have to be an athlete, it could be it's a
simple one. I was always a fan. I'm not a
Patriots fan, but I'm a fan of greatness. So I
was like Tom Brady. I had a song and everything.
Tom Brady is the man. Tom Brady is the man.

(45:35):
But when I watched the documentary, I forget which one
it was. It was probably the man in the arena,
but it was when you saw his family just referring
to him as little Tommy all the time. They got Tommy.
They were so proud of Tommy. Yeah, Tommy and Tommy
did this, and Tommy was a good boy, and they
were so proud of Tommy and my brother tom when

(45:56):
they just referred to him as little Tommy. Yeah, and
you realize that he was just a goofy kid that
worked really hard and he may be a superstar in
our eyes, in our mind, but to his family, he's
just little Tommy and his dad is his hero. And
I when they humanized them in a way, it made
me like him more. You know, living out here in
Los Angeles, I have a girlfriend, right, of course I

(46:20):
love her, but you know what, I love her most
when I see her with her family in Idaho and
I realized that, oh, yeah, she's it's a girl from
Idaho who loves her family. And it humanizes them. Well right.
You know why this is interesting because I said this
just the other day to you. When you see them
in their real element as real people, not sports robots.
I was telling you just the other day. Nolan McLain

(46:45):
for the Mets is now four and oh, by the way, yeah,
guy's got some moves. He's got some movement. The first
game in the Bigs, when I saw his parents in
the stands so the Mets had another pet debut tongue
debut the other day. When you see the parents of
a kid making his major league baseball debut, there's a
famous clip of a Florida Marlin who hit his home run,

(47:08):
his first home run, while his parents are being interviewed.
This is a couple of years ago, and the dad's
going nuts. It makes you feel some type of way
because you're like, it humanizes them. You're like, oh, wow,
these are his parents who watch it more relatable, You're
more invested as a result. And Rich is right Djokovic,
I know he's a tennis great, but that was his

(47:28):
coolest moment. That was, by far as the coolest moment.
Made me like him in a different way, all right.
You know what I did? I respected him as a
as a tennis name and a guy who did great
things in tennis. Now I actually like the guy because
he was doing something cute. He's fun for his kid.
He's not too cool to do a demon Hunter dance
with his kids. So other humanizing moments, I did you

(47:49):
mention it? I was looking at the phones and everything.
Did you mention Drew Brees?

Speaker 3 (47:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (47:53):
I said when his kid came out but that's a
I feel like a lot of times when you see
when you see athletes, Oh you know what, I thought
was cool? We pray too when we see them with
their family and everything. That's always nice. Every team does this,
but you're only gonna know your own team doing this.
But the Mets have a day every year where the
kids of the players announce their dads in the lineup,

(48:15):
like now batting my dad. Yeah, you know, number twelve,
Francisco Lindor. And when you see the kids introducing their dad,
you're like, yeah, they're just guys with kids. Anything that
humanizes them. Like, I don't know why this came to mind,
but I remember thinking, oh, yeah, that's right. These are
real people with real feelings. You know, we should treat

(48:37):
them with a different level of understanding and grace and respect.
When Wilmer Flores got traded from the Mets, remember like
how he was just so upset. He was crying, crying
and everything, and yeah, get it together, Bud. But still
you're like, oh, man, these people care. That's right, they
got lives and stuff, and it means a lot when
he humanizes them. And I always remember that, like, there's

(48:58):
a guy with a big heart. You and Danny g
talking about hard knocks When you see a guy try
to make the team and you're like, wow, look at
how much this means to not only him but his
family and everyone. Oh, when you see those dudes praying
every day.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
I was going to say, I think it feels more
emotional for some reason when it's two athletes together having
a moment like Aaron Rodgers and Randall Cobb. Oh, I
was walked off the field for the last time together.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
Remember, I think we see the more Hamlin because of
what Rich was saying, Like that humanized that guy where
the whole world is rooting for him, and now you
see him on Hard Knocks and you know, you see
him praying every day, just grateful to be alive and
on the team. So humanizing moments that really left an
impression and change your opinions or maybe enhance your opinions
on athletes eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox And

(49:44):
right now we're going to see if we could get
a winner for this game. You want to say, let's
have a trip first, We'll talk about humanizing. Give these
people another second to think about Mike's words of wisdom.
What's up?

Speaker 2 (49:53):
Trip?

Speaker 10 (49:54):
Hey, great day as always, you know, and Rich I
got one. John Cena has done work make a wishes
than in double than anybody can bind. I mean, the
time he gives for kids is just unbelievable. Yeah, that's
why I appreciate him.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
No, no doubt. For sure. See a lot of those stories.
It does change your opinion for sure. Can I tell
you I note this and you might say, really, you
take that close of a look. I do when they did,
like the Little League World Series game this year. They
do when when I see m'l be All Star Break
when we were in Atlanta. I pay attention to what
athletes really dive into, like signing autographs and paling around

(50:31):
with the kids, because some people you can tell you like,
look at this jerk, like he's sort of maybe doing
it because he has to do. But then you see
other players that realize the impact they have on kids.
Oh dude, that's the best. And those are the players
I end up liking more for sure. To back up
what Tripp said, I've always been a Canelo Alvarez fan.
I'm Team Canelo. Come September thirteenth, he takes on Crawford.

(50:52):
I saw on ESPN how's this segment they do where
they find like the make a Wish kid.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Oh one wish, Yes, in one way wish? Is that
what it's going? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
But they found this one kid with Sisti Fibrosa's fourteen
year old kid who just wanted to be a fighter,
and Canello welcomed him to his camp. I bought a
Team Canelo hat that day, so I was like, man,
I liked him before my wish, my wish, that's it.
I saw my wish segment and Canelo was like Rascal Flats.

(51:21):
He was there for the kid and hyped them up
and like it wore my heart so much. I'm like,
you know what, Yeah, he's a fighting robot, but he's
still a dad. He still has a heart. He did
this nice thing for a kid he humanized and made
me like him even more. All Right, you know what,
I think it's time to try to get a winner
for Big Mike's words of wisdom, and then we'll take
more feedback on the UH on the subject at hand,

(51:44):
humanizing athletes. Ala Novak Djokovic talking about how he's doing
dances with his daughter to K Pop demon Hunters like
every other deal like every other little kid. I'm telling you,
love that it's gonna be the number one Halloween costume.
You're gonna look around and all little trigger treaters are
going to be demon hunters.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
All right?

Speaker 1 (52:00):
You want to stay with Dylan in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Dylan,
do you think he got this?

Speaker 10 (52:06):
All right?

Speaker 14 (52:07):
I think I can do it. And I also think
I had some humanizing moments that.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
I'd like to share a perfect man. Let's let's let's hear,
let's simmer and take it away.

Speaker 14 (52:16):
Okay, So Big Mike said, healing is not about ending.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
Give us, give us your humanizing hand.

Speaker 14 (52:29):
Okay. I appreciate that. Okay, So two moments. One is
I remember when Kobe Bryant would be on the sidelines
with Gianna and you would like this. You would see
this person who was just a killer throughout his career
like laughing and having fun. And I think the reason
that there was such a tragedy that he died with
her is that we were kind of seeing this person

(52:53):
who is this dominating athlete who was a stone cold
killer turned into this like loving, warm hearted person.

Speaker 4 (53:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (53:00):
And also also you know, because if they were going
to open up, she was going to be a great
you know, w NBA star. The w n B a
is great at humanizing the stud Buds from Minnesota had
that live stream during All Star weekend and so the
w NBA All Stars they were having a blast.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
Yeah, that's that's a great example. I thought that was
a really great example.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
The Olympic, Bryan, we'd make fun of it, but the
Olympics always have their packages where they humanize all the
athletes and make us chair for them.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
No doubt. You become more invested for sure. Do we
have another contestant, Danny j Stacy? Yeah, a tough one Stacey.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Also in Tulsa. You guys are big in Tulsa.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
What's up, Bud? What's up? Pelly?

Speaker 12 (53:42):
Hello?

Speaker 2 (53:42):
What's up?

Speaker 12 (53:43):
Hello?

Speaker 6 (53:43):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (53:45):
I think I have it ahead.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
Healing is not about getting rid of.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
Got a word wrong there at the beginning, man, Healing.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
Isn't the hell you say. You know what, We'll try
to get one more winter, We'll come back. We'll do
spots midweek, major all your headlines will take more feedback.
Lisa gonna give it a shot. Is that what's gonna
happen to your Danny or what?

Speaker 2 (54:16):
Yeah? Lisa in Dutchess County, New York.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
All right, let's do this. Can you repeat Mike's words
of wisdom? Lisa? Last shot? Let's go here we go?

Speaker 8 (54:24):
All right?

Speaker 15 (54:25):
I hope so.

Speaker 10 (54:27):
I have.

Speaker 15 (54:29):
Feeling is more about accepting pains and learning to coexist
with it than it is about eliminating all suffering, which
is impossible.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
About Lisa, way to go big, Mike.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
That is impressive. Are you tape recording us on a boombox?

Speaker 1 (54:52):
You know what I want to?

Speaker 8 (54:52):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (54:53):
No, you can do that.

Speaker 9 (54:54):
No one said you couldn't do that. That's not so
that was a rule. Congratulations Lisa, Thanks Lisa.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
And two quickies. We're talking about humanizing a lah Novak
Djokovic dancing to K pop? What do you got, Reno? Trevor,
what's up.

Speaker 8 (55:12):
Hey, guys? So yeah, I think some of these probably
revolve around fatherhood. So the first one that I thought
about when he said Kobe was Tiger when he won
his last Masters and just seeing Charlie there and the
dude's a robot for so long and just like to
actually see him have feelings was pretty cool. But the
one that still just kind of chokes me up whenever

(55:32):
I watch it. And I know what's happening. Was in
like the Olympian that got hurt and his dad goes
out and runs with him and he's like hitting the
judges off, being like no, I'm going to finish it
with my kids like that.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
Oh that's hard for h You ain't kidding, all right, Heidi?
Last one a Florida the way you got to give
spot at least five minutes. What's up, Heidi?

Speaker 12 (55:50):
Hey?

Speaker 4 (55:50):
I thought it was quite endearing when Jannis filmed himself
going through the Chick fil A drive through ordering fifty
not forty nine, not fifty one, fifty chicken mini and
I think he had a trophy in the backseat, but
he didn't film that, and he was taking the Chicken

(56:11):
minis back to his party.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
Oh that's cool. Yeah, these are the moments where you're like, oh,
you know, especially if you're on the fence, if you're
on the fence or you really just don't know, Yeah,
that'll win you over. So props to Djokovic on his win,
and even more so for being a cool dad and winning.
It's sober and when to hit those dances on the
K Pop Demon Hunters. Actually time for mid week.

Speaker 12 (56:34):
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the week when mid Week Major Major.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
Oh, I love that.

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We throw sports and pop culture headlines and topics at
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Speaker 15 (56:49):
Say, that's somn We definitely major.

Speaker 12 (56:52):
See at our score Midweek Major.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
There is no time for an intro, so we are
going to get it right to the dice roll to
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Speaker 7 (57:12):
Right, we're just one day away from NFL kickoff. Yeah,
and we talked about I'll actually have our recent episode
of our both of this podcast over promised how the
cost of watching an entire NFL season could be well
over one thousand dollars. And there's no secret that thrifty
fans turned to illegal streaming sites. Yeah Somebodey Well, one
of the biggest sites stream East, which drew a combined

(57:32):
one point six billion visits over the last year, has
been shut down at last week. So the website known
for providing free streams of top leagues like the NFL
and BA MLB Premier League and more. Site was taken
down by a joint effort between the Alliance for Creativity
and Entertainment, which is comprised of entity's, Amazon and Apple,
and some law enforcement officials in Egypt. Apparently part of

(57:55):
the sting. They also see some cash and credit cards
and a shell company that was laundering honey. Maybe they
were hooking up Kawhi. Who knows, anyway, midweek or major.
This is major. One point six billion people used it.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
Damn. How am I going to watch my pay per
view fights now?

Speaker 8 (58:10):
I mean.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
No, I think it's wrong and we shouldn't be doing this.
Some people do, but people do, and it's about time
they figured out a way to shut it down. Shut
it down now. Yeah, you're leaving a lot of money
on the table by allowing this. So you're a better
guy than me. I think this is major. You're a
better guy than me if you could honestly say you've

(58:34):
never used ever in your life an illegal link your
buddy sent you, like, Hey, the fight's about to start.
Here's a link that shut down. Then that's stream east
on again. I know people have used that one for
a year, so it's a big deal. We should be
buying the fights. But I get it. I will say this, Rich,
I never I never harassed my own daughter just because
like that woman in that Unknown Number documentary. Yeah, but

(58:56):
I have streamed something illegally. Okay, Yeah I have. Yeah,
so you're still good guy. Yeah so I'm better than
that woman.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
All right.

Speaker 7 (59:03):
We now have all the details on the infamous proposal
between Travis Kelcey and pop superstar Taylor Swift. Of course,
on the latest episode of New Heights, Kelsey talked about
how he's quote giddy about the proposal and how he
gets to share the rest of his life with he's
been telling everybody. He also talked about how he planned
to originally do it on water and one of his
producers said that he did that and it ruined the experience.

(59:26):
He revealed what we sort of already knew that his
team was preparing the proposal set up in the backyard
while they were recording the podcast with Taylor Swift a
few weeks back. He also talked about how he had
their first public appearance at Arrowhead where they attended that
college game. Yeah, how he's first introducing Taylor as his
fiancee to all his teammates, so he's really excited about that.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Midweek or major. Well, that's a weird feeling. This is major.
Anything Kelsey Swift related as major. I saw that Roger
Goodell gave her the open invite. Yeah, all right, it's
coming up. I guess it's coming up. But yeah, anything
involving them major news. And it ties into what we
were just talking about. I think seeing him as a
love bird this humanized them and made him more likable

(01:00:07):
to so many more people agreed. It ties into our
last conversation. Taylor Swift and Travis Kelcey have humanized each other.
I think it's big news. And I know spot you
said you're going to lead into, yes, the Roger Goodell story,
so you might as well take it away because that's
what it ties in. I'll take it away. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:00:22):
And NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell appeared on Today Earlier Today,
Earlier this morning and was asked if Swifties would get
the ultimate treat for as they planned the Super Bowl
halftime show this year, and Goodell responded by saying, quote,
we would always love to have Taylor play. She has
a special, special talent, and obviously she would be welcome
at any time. While he didn't give up any details.
He said that it is quote maybe a possibility. And

(01:00:45):
we've talked about people have been you know, all the Swifties,
how they love to analyze all these easter eggs. When
she appeared on the New Heights podcast, she was talking
about sour Dough and dropping certain numbers that alluded to
her doing the halftime show in Sanford Go Sour do
Sam being the mascot there, so potentially could be this
year's super halftime show. Super major, major major and.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
For many reasons, Taylor Shrift major maker performing halftime that
would be huge. Ratings Gold Baby Gold rating ratings. I
tell you, it would break all sorts of records. And
it also shows you that maybe Goodell has final say
it's not jay Z jay Z had Omarion on standby
or something ridiculous. Imagine if he pulls Taylor Swift, that'd

(01:01:33):
be awesome. So, I mean, I'm not a Swifty, but
it's it would be huge. This is I think mid
because it's what we already know. That's something meaning like
if Taylor Shrift wants to do it, she will do it,
and Roger Goodell would probably get down on his hands
and knees and be like, please what's today's date? Give
me the date, nine to three September third. I knew that,

(01:01:54):
but I was just asking you because last year it
was on September eighth when we found out it was
Kendrick Lamar. So it's consistently early September. We should be
finding out within the week or so. If it's Tailor,
if it's Metallica, if it's Mighty Cyrus, whoever the heck
it's going to be, we should probably find out within
a week. Nice, nice, well more spottier one, I guess.

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
So.

Speaker 7 (01:02:17):
Tom Brady making some appearances on podcasts if you want
to hear about his thoughts about the NFL Generation of
today or his thoughts about broadcasting this.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
Season Generation today.

Speaker 8 (01:02:27):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
He was on Kevin Hart's podcast Cold is Y.

Speaker 10 (01:02:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
I don't know if I could say where.

Speaker 7 (01:02:33):
He sits in a cold bludge with athletes and celebrities.
So he asked Brady about how he feels the game
is changing. Brady responded saying there are more challenges for
this generation of qbs in some way, but the guys
who take advantage of it, there are more opportunities for them.
Went on to say that everybody is coddled a little
bit more. And what he meant by that is he said,
rather than saying, hey, you better come and get the

(01:02:54):
work done, you have to say you should probably do this.
So he's saying that this generation just needs to be
led a little bit more rather than having that work ethic.
But he did go on to say that of the
quarterbacks of today, Mahomes has a really great work ethic.
He said that he is a desire every time he
takes the field to be a great leader and everything
he does is right. So a nice compliment to Mahomes
from Brady Midweek or major, hard work never goes out

(01:03:16):
of style.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
This is major. People should take notes and taken all
sorts of advice from Tom Brady. He's a guy who's
lived it and proved it that hard work pays off.
And I don't understand why younger people get so upset
by this. Remember the Kim Kardashian controversy where she was
like you need what did she say you remember something?
You gotta get up and work, Get up here, get

(01:03:38):
off your ass, And everybody was so up in arms
and upset by that. It's like, where's that, where's the insult?

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
There?

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
How about take that as good advice? Well, I have
this don't happen by themselves, you know, I think Tom
Brady is a great teacher of hard work. Can you
don't have relatable? That made me to a whole like
slew of people, to fifty percent of the population that
someone else was talking about the things that they all

(01:04:05):
had went through, and it made me more human. Here
I am this arrogant guy that people want to punch
in the face, and then I come in like, yeah,
my relationship's over in a weird way. That humanized me
to a lot of people, made me more relatable. And
again that's just a silver lining to stuff like that.
It's not always it's not always just like you as
a dad. It could be anything, you know. I think

(01:04:25):
another humanizing moment is when you see athletes get the
call up to the big league. Do you ever see
those videos where they get called out, they get called
into the manager's office and they're like, hey tomorrow, you
think you could pitch tomorrow? How about for the big leagues?
And then they call their parents and stufft just makes
you more relatable And what are those moments for you?
Running out of time so you could share at Covino

(01:04:46):
and Rich at Fox Sports Radio, and again before it
gets too late on tomorrow's show, Old School Win fifty hits.
We throw it back every Thursday and get you involved,
and we do our picks for the NFL prediction sheet,
you know, the laminated sheet in the studio. We pick tomorrow.
You know who do we think is to be in

(01:05:06):
a super Bowl? We picked tonight? Are you part taking
in this? Are you too cool for the room? Are
you doing Dan Bayer's Guillotine League? I might. I'm gonna
tell everyone you think you're too good for it? Hi,
mai too good for it. I just know my habits
And come on, we need you gad away, I think
and say have fun. No, come on, it is fun.

(01:05:29):
We need two people. Don't you want to be one
of our heroes? I think we have different definitions of fun. Listen,
come on if you're in Manzi, I fantastic. We'll see
you guys tomorrow. Enjoy were gonna see I know you
can't all right until that, don't read it there baby,

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see you in the Promised Land. Go Yankees,