The Best Of Covino & Rich

Covino beat the clock for a beach, Rich Davis is rollin' with the crew! They get into 'THINGS THAT MAKE YOU GO HMM!' Bad Bunny at Super Bowl halftime?! Cowboys/Packers needed 5 more minutes! Kickers, Mets, Reds, Rams, Vikings, Rodgers, & Jeanty all get air-time! Jaxson Dart upsets the Chargers, Nabers injury ruins the mood. High Noon at noon is the best? Plus, 'LAST ONE STANDING' & Rich's MNF bet!

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
I searching the FSR.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Well, I'm rolling solo today, but not solo because I
got the best crew, We got the best show.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
And the biz.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Danny g super producer. What's up Danny g Ya? I
was Sam bringing the good vibe. I had no idea
Covina was gone today. I didn't look at the schedule.
Apparently bodies on the video and of course he'll be
co hosting throughout the show. My man in yours Dan Byer,
what's up the Hello? Twenty one hundred bucks?

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Huh? That hurts pretty heavy.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
That hurts, especially when I'm redoing my pool in the backyard.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
I knee bad. Yeah, now we don't feel as bad.
You're right.

Speaker 4 (00:51):
Remember when you were like, hey, Covino, you want me
to you want to just cut your loss right here?
You just give me like eight hundred, oh dude, And
then I look at how the tide turned.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Bro It's like the worst bet I've ever lost in
my life by far, twenty one hundred dollars. That's gross.
But hey, he's in Mexico. You know why comitos in Mexico.
True story. Danny g thought it was a joke. He
goes what a Carino buy, like some type of time
share that he needed to use, and I'm like, yes,
during his last vacation, he was the guy that watched

(01:19):
that presentation. Whether they try to sell you, you know, want
to come back here for half price, but you have
to go in this window of time.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
That's what he did.

Speaker 5 (01:28):
Yeah, I was kidding, and Rich said no, that's actually
what happened. And I was like, dude, that's in the
middle of the NFL season.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Who cares? We could hang without Cove. He's valuable, but uh,
he's not like cal Raleigh valuable. He's like Aaron Judge valuable.
So we could we could be all, oh if he
heard this, cry, hey, we're going to get to a
lot today. A lot of fun on Covino and Rich.
I won't harp on the Mets, but I do want
to bring up a statement from Steve Cohen and how
he already committed to Mendoza is going to be the

(01:57):
manager next year. And that's that's got fans in New
York on the East Coast up set. And I want
to talk about the idea of blowing it up when
it doesn't go well. There's people that are like, you
got to blow up this team. And it doesn't just
apply to the Mets. It applies to any NFL team,
NBA team, when you don't make the postseason? Is the
answer always blow it up and start over? Or sometimes

(02:18):
is it? You know, maybe just run a back you
get better luck, fix some pieces, but do you really
need to.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Blow it up?

Speaker 5 (02:26):
On our network yesterday afternoon, I heard the host talking
about should the Panthers blow things up?

Speaker 4 (02:34):
Should the Detroit Tigers blow it up? Because they coughed
up a huge league?

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Who was talking Panthers after yesterday? That's what I want.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah, there wasn't much to say, said I told you
years ago, I told you so listen, we're gonna get
to a bunch. But as we do every Monday, let's
kick off a Cavino on Rich with things that.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Made you go hmm, things that make you go, things
that make your goal.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Now before we even get to all the games, there
was a lot of great NFL action. We're gonna talk
about ties, We're gonna talk about have there's only two
undefeated teams, right, only two undefeated teams left after four
weeks of the NFL just too showing the parody, the
parody in the league. But we got to talk about
Bad Bunny because, my goodness, the social media reaction. Danny

(03:26):
g I was watching just like you, Sunday Night football,
and they so casually, like Mike Turrico, like, I did
not know this was coming. Turrico's like and coming up, Max,
We're gonna find out who the halftime show is.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
And I'm like, oh damn.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Like Tarico was just holding out in his pocket, huh.
And there is Bad Bunny sitting on a goalpost with
a straw hat, and everyone's like, wait, what bad Bunny.
He was carrying a golf bag too. It was weird
Bad Bunny. Other still for otherwise, notice Happy Gilmore's caddy
is an international superstar. Let's not be naive, but let's

(03:59):
not also make it seem like everyone knows Bad Bunny.
It's a very interesting choice by Jay Z Roger Goodell
in the NFL. I think we could say interesting choice.
Now here's here's my thought. My initial thought was what
about Taylor Swift because we had all those little breadcrumbs,
those Easter eggs of sour dough and sixty and all this, like, oh,

(04:22):
super Bowl sixty and then Metallica, and then you heard
rumors last week like Adele, and then we were all thinking, ah,
she's too slow, like she's got a great voice and
great songs, but not Adele. And then you heard post Malone,
and then over the weekend there were internet rumors that
Miley's close to signing the contract.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
I had not heard.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Am I wrong by saying no one else heard Bad
Bundy's name even in the conversation under wraps? That was
the most like under wraps anything's been kept because I
didn't hear a thing a peep about Bad Boonie. Now,
let me tell you when Covino and I worked over
at ESPN, it's very closely with a lot of the
people that work for ESPN.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Deport this.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
To say that Bad Money is a superstar is an understatement.
You just must not have many Latino friends or know
anyone that speaks Spanish. This guy's an international star. But
here's the question, is that the right act for the
Super Bowl eight seven, seven, nine nine on Fox. If
you want to chime in, that's one of our things

(05:26):
that made you go hmm, week four. I look at
it this way. We often neglect to realize when something's
not meant for us.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
Right.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Let's say you're a you know, let's be honest, middle
aged white guy who loves football, and you're gonna watch
no matter what. They got you hooked. You're watching the
super Bowl and everything involved with the NFL playoffs, You're
watching Mondays, Thursday, Sunday, Sunday nights. You're locked in. They
got you, they don't need to get you anymore. So

(06:02):
it's very clear that last year with Kendrick Lamar and
this year with bed Bunny, they are shooting younger, they're
going for different ethnic backgrounds. They're going global, the NFL
playing games in Ireland and Spain and Mexico. The game's expanding,
the fan base is trying to expand. So Bad Bunny

(06:23):
to me is just a clear indication that, Yo, you're
not the demo they're going after. You're locked in, middle
aged white guy, and I'm in that group. If they
wanted middle aged white guy. If they wanted to super
serve the forty to six year old dude, Hey, Metallica
is the answer. But they're going after the younger generation.
You're always going after the younger generation. People love to

(06:45):
point out with alcohol sales and why they used to
always have mascots for alcohol and cigarettes and stuff. Say,
really subconsciously trying to get the next generation. So what
was your first reaction when you saw Danny? You got like,
you got step kids that are in their twenties, you
got a little boy, you got kids, So what he
was your reaction?

Speaker 5 (07:06):
Teenagers were hyped over the announcement and I don't mind him,
but the response right away on social media and I
sent it to you. Our listener Eric wrote, having bad
Buddy at the Super Bowl halftime show is the equivalent
of having Morgan Wallen at a big soccer game in Mexico.
It's just not fit for at all, for the right sport.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
It may feel like a miscast San Francisco Bay Area.
There's no real tie to bad Money there, Dan Bayer,
did you uh?

Speaker 3 (07:38):
I mean it really didn't. I mean didn't really resonate
with me at all. I'm not too familiar. But to
your point, I also didn't think that it was for me.
I am fully convinced that this is planed c I
think that they probably wanted other acts to do it.
You've pointed out a couple of times on the date
that they announced Kendrick Lamar what was last year. What

(07:58):
was interesting about that date was it was opening. It
was week one of the NFL season, so it was
actually completely overshadowed by the games that we actually cared about,
and I think that the NFL wanted to avoid that. However,
to do it like in this window during halftime of
a game in Week four tells me that maybe they
had this earlier and things didn't work out with Miley

(08:19):
Cyrus or Taylor Swift, that this is then where they
ended up pivoting and worked out a deal with Bad Bundy.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
I think are probably one hundred percent right, and I
probably one hundred percent right, because you're right, the timing
just seemed different than other years.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
It was a little later.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Plus I think Taylor did hint a lot, and I'm
not being the little you know, I'm not like pop
Boy who's reading between the lines. But remember on her
podcast with Travis they made all those sourdough jokes and
sixty percent of the time you like sixty sour dough.
Those East Riggs were there for a reason. I heard
from people that work in like the pop world of
radio that her list of demands was was hot, was

(08:58):
up there, and the NFL had a brand to worry about,
and tell a shrift has a brand to worry about.
They just couldn't really figure out who owned it. Yeah,
you know, like there was probably behind the scenes stuff.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
I'll give you something that I thought was maybe it
only landed on me, but I thought it was interesting
with the photo of Bad Bunny on a sunset, because
the sun is going to be out when he performs
because it's in San Francisco, and it actually makes one
of those weird halftime show performances because it's in the
daylight and it's not in an indoor stadium. So one

(09:31):
thing about the Michael Jackson halftime show at the Rose
Bowl that was so crazy was, yeah, I was in
the daytime.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
We forget that there's no not everyone's going to have
their little wrist band with the glowing and the light show.
This is straight up like bad Money daylight.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
And I was. I was at the last Super Bowl,
super Bowl fifty between the Broncos and Panthers when it
was cold Play and then they brought up Beyonce and
Bruto Mars and it was daylight. It's like four twenty
in the afternoon, you know, like I mean, it's sun
is starting to se but there was no hint of
darkness whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
So your thoughts if you want to chime in bad
Bunny your super Bowl halftime show. I think it's just
obvious that it's not for everyone, but it's not. We
We love to think it's supposed to be for you.
I I my father in law recently was saying, you
know what I miss Rich. I'm like what Dave is like,
you don't we need to bring back We need to
bring back I like you. I used to love to

(10:22):
read the box scores in the newspaper. And I was like,
that's not how your dad sounds. You got impersonal.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
That's my father in law.

Speaker 5 (10:28):
Oh your father in law. Yeah, you can't impersonate him.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
A little southern, little southern. But he lost it a
little bit. But day even Dave will be like, Rich,
know what I for I know what I forget and
know what I I miss. He's talking about box scores,
and I'm like, yeah, Dave, like just go on your
phone and click on the app and then you click
on passing and wrote, but he wants to like read it,
and I go, Unfortunately, you know who that appeals to
your generation and people are not worried about it.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Kids don't even know we used to have that.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah, no one, no one's worried about that, and your
no one. No one's trying to worry about what a
sixty seventy eighty year old guy thinks. Unfortunately, so this
is definitely a pick for the younger people. And hey,
you know what, I think it is funny how we
overanalyze what's gonna end up being fifteen to twenty minutes
of your life six months from now. I think it

(11:15):
will be okay, I think it'll be fun. Bad Money.
You know, this could be hot dancers. You know he's
gonna put on a show. You just may not understand
anything he says, but you know what, Hey, you have
a few months to do some Rosetta Stone, learn a
little more Spanish if you're too worried about it. So
Bad Money halftime show, that was the first thing that
made me go yesterday and before we go over all

(11:39):
the daytime games. Last night one of those nights where
everyone my family was just all in the living room
chilling out. We let our kids stay up a little
later because they were sort of watching the football game
and sort of learning the game a little bit more.
Last night, they both seem sort of locked in Cowboys Packers.
My wife's family Packers fans. So they're watching and I'm explaining,
I see the yellow line to first down, they get

(12:01):
four chances to get ten yards. I'm like doing the
dad instructional and of all games, I'm trying to teach
them about the rules.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
It's a damn tie.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
And then I had to think to myself, well, do
I have any real feelings about a tie?

Speaker 3 (12:15):
And I think.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
I'm gonna defend the tie today. I'm gonna defend the
Bolo tie because I think it's a cool look. Remember
Philip Rivers would rock the Bolo tie. I'm gonna defend
the tie in football because I think what it does
to the standings is awesome because at the end of
the year, if you're ocd about seeing what team is
where now, the Packers are probably gonna be like eleven

(12:39):
five and one, ten six and one the twelve four. Yeah,
that one is gonna really mess up that North. But
do you think there's something really crappy about two teams
battling four quarters plus overtime and it's forty forty and
they both walk away like.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Eh, yeah, I didn't like it. How do you fix it? Though?

Speaker 1 (13:01):
We talked about this for years, and my solution is simple,
Dan Byer.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
At five minutes, Yes, each.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Team got the ball, and it seems like each team
with the legit possession equals about ten minutes. If you
had five more minutes left in that overtime period, just
make it another quarter fifteen minutes. I think someone urgently
moves the ball down the field and at least tries
a winning field goal. I think ten minutes is just
designed for a tie in a weird way.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
One hundred percent is. And previously I think they were
just trying to get the game over with on the
first score that wins the game. And then you do
the thing where you're like, okay, well now it's got
to be both teams have a first touchdown wins the game.
So if you kick a field goal that led lent
it to all right, we're gonna have more ties because

(13:47):
they did. There were multiple ties in previous seasons. Under
the old rule of field goal does not win it
for you, touchdown wins it for you, there were more ties.
Now with this they never change the period length. Adding
five more minutes to the quarter would be a huge,
huge difference because it just doesn't make any sense to
have it this way when if you are going to

(14:10):
have a field goal drive, it's probably gonna be about
four to five minutes, especially too, if one of the
teams is always going forward on fourth down if they
need to because they have to tie the game because
they're trailing at that point.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
And like you said, the length of a drive in
that situation is about four to five minutes. Do that
two times you match field goals to tie. I just
my team hasn't time in a long time. I would
love to hear from a Packers fan or a Cowboys fan.
How are you feeling today? Is it like because you

(14:42):
know your football team does determine your mood. I'm a
little sour today. My Mets lost and the Niners lost,
So today I woke up and I'm like, yeah, sort
of feel a little like asked if your team ties
do you do you feel good about that? Like after
the game, even when the players were bro hugging and
the coaches were shaking hands, it almost feels like an
odd like you know when you're at a blackjack table

(15:03):
and you're like, sweet, I got a twenty and the
dealer flips at twenty and you're.

Speaker 5 (15:07):
Like, uh, what was better for Packers fans than running
out of time there at the end with that pass
that went out of bounds, because that would have been
a disaster.

Speaker 4 (15:17):
They're so lucky that that ball immediately went down one
second ago. I just think ties happened so infrequent, like
they had. It was a couple of years ago we
had like two or three in a season. But I
think you just sort of move on and deal with
it because they happened infrequently enough that most of the
time you do have a winner and a loser. But
there it happens, and it is a weird feeling. It's
like you have to tell your kids this one like

(15:39):
thing that happens that doesn't happen very often, but you
explain it and you're like, it's like not a winner.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Or loss, it's a tie. It's a draw. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
I mean, I like it because again, I feel like
it's at the end of the season. It's always fun
because it messes up your playoff positions and stampings and rankings,
just for all you know, towards the end of the year,
the Lions and Packers that they might be battling, and
it's like, ooh that half a game is he gonna
either gonna work for or against the Packers? So you're right,
better than a loss. But do we think tye stink?

Speaker 3 (16:10):
From twenty seventeen to twenty twenty four, we had seven
tie games in the NFL, So I.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Guess you know what, I'll defend the tie and say
it's so rare that it's sort of fun, mixes it up.
I just don't know what the fan bases feel like afterwards.
It really is, it's like, imagine, all right, I can't
I can't really think of anything else. I feels so
like I'm not happy, but I'm not mad.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Can I change your mind on this? Yes, nineteen seventy
four to twenty eleven. So if we had seven ties
from twenty seventeen to twenty twenty four, yeah, From nineteen
seventy four to twenty eleven, thirty seven years? How many
ties do you think we had in the NFL way?
More so, if we had seven in that seven year span,
how many do you think we had in the thirty
seven year span? You gonna go around you to see.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Yeah, I feel like oddly, I feel like every year
as a kid, there was like, I know the nine
the Niners had a tie one year and I know that.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
A less though.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
I'm gonna say twenty five.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Twenty five.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yeah, so this is over thirty how many years, seventy
fourth to twenty to thirty seven years.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
I'm gonna say fifty. Okay, Danny, I'll say twenty three.
We had seventeen, so you guys were in the ballpark.
But if you were to take the seven years times
that from the previous window times you know this five times,
you'd have thought we would have had thirty five to
forty ties if under the previous format it was in

(17:36):
going along that same pace.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
But it's not. It's way ahead of that pace. So
they were only seventeen and thirty seven years. Yet in
the previous seven years we had seven ties. I heard
the twenty Wait wait, wait, wait, why is that though?
Is it because because what Rich is talking about. Yeah,
it's because of the because of the ten minute quarters.
It used to just be the sudden death of a

(17:57):
team scoring, and there were a fifteen minute quarter at
that time.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
You score fifteen minutes, you score, you win, and then
it was score. If it's a touchdown, you win, field goal,
they have a chance to matchup. It was just more
of a chance for something to happen ten minutes. In
the NFL, that's like again Dan Buyer said it it's
like two drives tops.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
So once a year, and at one point we were
averaging about once every one every three years. Now they're
happening once a year because of the new rules.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
So for a long time the rule was sudden death,
but if you neither team could just score, period, it
ended in a tie.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
Correct. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. It was a couple
seven years ago and eight years ago now in twenty
seventeen that they shortened the overtime from five to ten minutes,
and during that seven year span we averaged about a
tie a season, and that was they were very rare
when we were growing.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Was there a couple of years ago where there was
like two or three in a season, there was a
good there's been There's been a couple now. I heard
this morning someone was saying Dan Patrick and the Dan
Asferd discussing like should there be some fun type of
like kicking contest, Like you know in soccer there's a
you know, at the end of the game, they'll do
uh penalty like penalty kicks. What if your field goal

(19:02):
kickers went out there and they're like, all right now
we're gonna go forty yards, fifty yards, sixty yards, Like
do we want to see that? College football seems like
everyone loves that, but I feel like the NFL is
so resistant to do that.

Speaker 5 (19:13):
Everybody loves college football, yeah, yeah, it's too gimmicky after
a hard fought NFL game.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Especially with college kickers and pinding it that way, you
have to do like two point conversions after a certain
amount of overtimes, and it, you know, it gets a
little crazy. What I think is interesting is this point
of how do you settle it because we only go
to penalty kicks after you play extra time in soccer,
like that's there is a whole extra time period where

(19:40):
you then go to penalty kicks. Same thing here, Like
we've played a ten minute overtime period, we are still tied.
So going to a kickoff, I have a branch off
idea of that. It's like name that tune. You bid
on how far you can make the kick. So if
a team says, all right, we can make it from fifth,
and then the other team says, we can make it

(20:01):
from fifty five, we can make it from fifty eight,
we can make it from sixty make that kick.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
You know what this is like there was a game
show I feel like you where they were like, I
can name that song in three notes. Great, I can
name that song in two notes.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
Yeah, all of a sudden, the Cowboys have to kick
a sixty eight yard field goal and if they miss it,
the Packers win. Like that would be amazing, that would
be what dramas? That is wild.

Speaker 5 (20:20):
How about if we put both head coaches in the
center of the field and have them do rock paper scissors.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Danny, you suck, Pete Carroll. What's interesting you did paper
is that you know people would love to be like
old the move. The biggest international sport is definitely soccer football,
and there are ties all the time, right. Soccer is
one of those games that often I know this from
watching Ted Lasso. Soccer ends in ties, and it seems
like scoring. It seems like that international audience is okay

(20:48):
with it. Maybe we're just used to the NFL. It's
so rare that a tie just feels like, so wait,
the Cowboys and Packers battle, the return of Michael Parsons
going to Jerry Jones in the mooth every ten minutes
as he is reaction a forty to forty and we
just walk away like Tuger.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
The reason, I think is because at least in soccer
you get a point for it. Yeah, you at least
come away. You didn't get the full three, but you
get something from it. Here, I feel like you're only
going to be happy at the end of the year
when and it will. It will help one of the teams,
because as much as you'd love to have the win,
you don't have the loss and the lost.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Watch the Packers are going to be twelve four and
one or something like that. They're gonna be like eleven
five and one. Someone else is gonna be eleven and six,
and that half a game may help them, or yes,
it'd be the opposite. We don't know, but just a
it's a it's a good one. It's I feel like
I'm I'm torn on it. But I do feel like
if I had a pick, if you if you're saying rich,
make a decision.

Speaker 5 (21:43):
We're such a passing league now. Instead of a kick
kicking a field goal thing at the end for sudden death,
what if we did each quarterback goes on the field
and see how far they can throw the football, almost
like a javelin throw.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Noah, you're talking about a punt passing kick competition at
the end of the game. You know what, I like
the Pro Bowl. I do have other thoughts. Obviously, we
have just started our things that made you go hmm.
And of course we already talked about bad money, so
if you have thoughts on that. But the next thing
that pops up is overtime.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
This is a tie.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Last night on a Sunday night game the most viewed
game of the week every week, especially Cowboys Packers probably
arguably I bet you had top three game of the
year so far right ratings? Why Sunday Night Football Cowboys Packers?
I can only imagine the numbers were huge. Forty forty
high score, great game and everyone walks away just like

(22:36):
I don't know, how do.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
You feel about this? You know there's something else to
your point that I think that we don't think of.
So last night when the coin flip happened, and you'll
we go back to Super Bowl fifty eight. Now, oh
and the forty nine ers take I'm taking the ball, right,
And that was so last night. Packers win the toss
and defer. They say they want to kick off, But
if you were to add five more minutes, you know,

(22:59):
like in that scenario, if both teams kicked a field goal,
it's then advantaged Cowboys because you would get another possession exactly,
which I think would negate the value of the coin toss,
which is very valuable that you can go second in
that situation.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
So listen, how do you fix it? Are dB and
eye onto something like if you had five minutes? Is
it just sort of fix it in so much at five.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
Minutes and five minutes? But that game was so back
and forth.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
What if that five minutes was just meant trading a scorer?

Speaker 1 (23:30):
So what but what we're saying, I does give you
a chance to you know, two possessions equals about ten minutes,
and you saw that in overtime and then you know
overtime was over tie game.

Speaker 4 (23:39):
Yeah, that extra five would allow someone else. It would
allow Dallas, who did not win the toss. Green Bay
had their advantage of going second. It now shifts to
Dallas having an advantage where they could then be able
to score and end the game because both teams would
have a possession exactly.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
And then Dallas gets the ball with four or five
minutes and all of a sudden, you know, Gleeve, they
uses their timeouts, they get the ball back, try to
kick a game winner. That extra five minutes, I think
is the simple fix.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
I think because I think the coin toss, it's at
the start of the game. It's not a bigger deal.
Most teams defer and take the ball to the second half.
But when you're talking about overtime, it is a really
big deal. There's a lot of weight on that coin toss.
By adding five minutes, at least, it gives the team
that loses that coin toss a little bit of value
at the back end of it if it works out
their way.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Agreed, Let's go to Dave and Oregon. You're on with
Cavino and Rich. What's up, Dave?

Speaker 6 (24:33):
My nights to nonsense how you doing, fellow, what's up Boddy?

Speaker 7 (24:37):
Hey man, Let's think outside the box on this. I
was talking to Danny g about this. Why don't we
just get rid of the game clock and the same
rules apply until we get a winner.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
No game clock, Just get rid of the clock. I
thought you were going to say, uh, mud wrestling with
the cheerleaders. Nor Cliff in North Carolina, Cliff, how do
you solve overtime or do you like to tie?

Speaker 3 (25:03):
You know?

Speaker 1 (25:03):
I imagine there's some people that are like, no, it
ties the tie. It it messes up to standings, it shakes
it up. What do you think, Cliff.

Speaker 7 (25:11):
I think there's there's only winners and losers. There's no tie.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
I hate telling.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
I hate telling my kids in kids' sports. I hate
when I have to like lie to my kids and
be like, oh, we're not keeping score. It's a tie
because someone did better. Someone always does better. I hate
a tie.

Speaker 7 (25:26):
Is Harmer Edwards would say, you play to win the game.
You don't play the tie.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
dB Guess how long? Guess how long overtime is in
the postseason? How long? Fifteen minutes? Bing go till you
find a winner, go another fifteen minutes? And yes, so
it's just such. It's only done for TV. It's the
only reason why it's ten minutes. They want they want
it done, they want it wrapped up. And if people
aren't satisfied, then make the change.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
You play to win the game.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
I mean, I think you do all right, so they
you have it. That was something that made us go.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
My wife last night. You were saying you were explaining
to your in laws about what was going on. My
wife is like, well, then what happens for the people
who bet? You know? So I was a money back.
I don't even want to talk about. Tell what happened.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Nothing, nothing, I'm not even joking. No one likes to
hear other people's bad beats. But but I'm the host,
so let me share for a second. I did a
bet that I didn't even announce on the air. I
bet what I bet on the air did all right?

Speaker 3 (26:29):
This week?

Speaker 1 (26:30):
I said, you know what, I don't really have much
action left. Let me do a teaser bet for Sunday
Night Football. And I like the Broncos tonight. So I
had the Broncos and a teaser that's where you play
with six points.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
It was Packers by six and a half.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
So I had Packers minus half a point and the Cowboys,
I'm sorry, and the Broncos tonight had minus one and
a half. So I was like, all right, I'm Packers
by half a point in Broncos tonight. That feels good.
Half a point, come on, come on. So it does
burn some people. One other observation. Then we'll go to

(27:07):
Dan Buyer's update. We'll take all your feedback, Danny g Any,
any final thoughts on the tie.

Speaker 5 (27:12):
No final thoughts, and then I'm just thinking of the
actual game, the other games now, all right.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
My observation is that we're talking about overtime. The kicking
game in the NFL has changed so dramatically from when
we were younger. If you're a kid of the eighties
or nineties, or even even you, let's say you go
back to the seventies, a field goal kicker was considered
of high value. If he could kick a field goal
well like forty something yards. That was like a boot.

(27:37):
We forget the Buffalo Bills lost a Super Bowl on
a missed thirty nine yard field goal, and I almost
want to argue that it wasn't even so automatic back
in nineteen ninety ninety one ninety two, like that was
not it wasn't so automatic. Now what used to be
a miracle field goal? Like, oh my god, he's going
to line up for something over fifty yards. I feel

(28:00):
like most teams with confidence could kick a fifty yard
field goal. Is that a fair statement compared to twenty
thirty years ago?

Speaker 3 (28:07):
Yeah? I saw a couple of teams settling for fifty
yarders yesterday on the Packers with McManus and then even
Danny's Raiders against the Bears.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
And sometimes these guys will knock a field goal through
the uprights. Let's say it's a fifty three yarder, and
I'm like, yo, that had ten yards extra on it's
hitting the net. When a fifty three yard field goal
hits the net, that could have went for sixty something yards.
And you're seeing because of that though, the trajectory of
the game, yes, has changed, so you wind drive. You're

(28:35):
seeing line drive, sixty yard bomb field goals that are
like happening on the regular, but you're seeing more block
field goals because when you're kicking a sixty yard attempt,
you can't not try to put a little.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
Distance on it.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
And by distance, you know, science guy Rich Davis here,
your angle changes. So I think the kicking game has
changed special teams and everything completely.

Speaker 5 (28:59):
The big uglies are learning how to time it perfectly
and get their big myts up there to block it.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Because these aren't big. These aren't like athletic guys that
are jumping, you know, in the air. These are just
big dudes sticking the pall up.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
Yes, I do think that though the kicking game has
evolved to the point because it's a little bit like
golf where if you can hit your nine iron twenty
or thirty yards further, it's still going to get the
same sort of trajectory and get high up. I feel
these guys can get the ball higher and they don't
need to be as low anymore. So what was a

(29:32):
fifty yarder back in the day at that trajectory is
now a sixty two yard field goal at that trajectory
that is more likely to be blocked.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
I just I find it wild that the field goal
kicker has become, in my opinion, such a more employantly
listen Special teams is always such a key element of
a game, but I think more so than ever, having
a kicker you can rely on is so so important.
I know that seems like an obvious statement, but when
you you get the there's guys where you're like, yo,

(30:01):
if we get it across the fifty, we might have
a chance. If you if you get it to the
forty forty five yard line. On the other side, I
think we could do this. That's a wild thought. That's
that's a very big advantage for good kickers. All right,
let's let's go to Dan for an update. We'll see
what's going on.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
What's up date? Yeah, the guys. This is what John
Harbaugh had to say about Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson, who
suffered that hamstring injury and yesterday's game against the Kansas
City Chiefs.

Speaker 8 (30:25):
There's no way he was going to go back in
the game. That would The injury precluded it. You know,
during the game, you know, you really just you're you're
playing the next series as a coach, But there was
no way he could go back in the game. I
know Lamar, I know the way I know Lamar. If
he could have gone in the game, he would have
been in the game. That's how Lamar, That's how he is.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
Ravens have the Texans coming up in Week five, Harbas
says they'll know more Wednesday about Lamar's status for that game.
Harball did reveal that defensive lineman Namdi Manobike is going
to miss the rest of the season because of a
neck injury. Forty nine Ers quarterback brock Perty had a
setback with his toe injury. His status for Thursday's game
against the Rams up in the air. Wide receiver Ricky
Pierson all suffered an injury to the PCL and his knee.

(31:02):
His status for Week five is not known at this time.
And speaking of knee injuries to wide receivers, Giants wide
receiver from Lake Neighbors officially placed on injured reserve. His
season is over after he tores ACL on yesterday's win
over the Chargers.

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(31:55):
buying should be a rich Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
Budd, you know what's crazy about that? Play?

Speaker 4 (32:00):
And Danny both witnessed it live in person. So we
were at that game yesterday.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
Well, you guys went.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
We got tickets through work here thanks to Scott Shapiro,
our boss, and we were sitting right next to each
other and we got to watch that whole game play out.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Look at you guys. It was fun.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
I feel bad for our Boston and Scott go to
see the Vikings.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
He went over there to Ireland, but he gets a
little trip involved there.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
So yeah, if you make.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
A nice trip like that, does your team losing put
a damper on it? Or is like, no, I'm making
the best of it. I'm in Ireland.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
Yeah, this is a regular season game, so one off,
I think it's more about going to see your team
than what the actual outcome is.

Speaker 5 (32:33):
Tomlin almost gave it back to them. He decided to
punt there to see the end of that game and
the Vikings. If it wasn't for the intentional grounding call.
In a couple of errors, they would have got into
field goal range.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Oh and by the way, just like that, Aaron Rodgers
and the Steelers are three and one everybody. Three and
one everybody, and it's not pretty, but they're three and one.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
Man. Yeah, it's not even close. And when you look
at how they did it. So the Jets game, remember
wild week one sixty something, the yrfield goal Seahawks beat them.
The Caleb Johnson sorry Sam miss Q, completely turned the
game over. Last week, the Patriots turned the ball over
five times, a couple of times as they were about

(33:17):
to score. They win by seven, and then they have
this thing and whatever you want to call what they
did against the Vikings.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
They and Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
I'll also say this something that rich and I love,
and I sent a tweet and it went viral, meaning
like one person liked it yesterday. But we finally saw
what the Vikings end zone would look like if they
made a Super Bowl. Now the NFL is putting every
team in the end zone. They did it with the
Chargers and Chiefs having both of the team names in Brazil.

(33:45):
This week it's Vikings and Browns in London. I'm curious
if we're going to see a Brown's end zone, what
would you do with the logo? Do you do a helmet?
Do you put the little Browns? Guy? BROWNI guy?

Speaker 1 (33:56):
We have had we haven't had a think about this,
and they've never been to a Super Bowl, but I'm
if we're gonna see it when they.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
When they play on Sunday.

Speaker 5 (34:03):
Also, how crazy is it the Vikes are going to
be the first team to play back to back international games.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Jaguars, you think they're excited about the stamps on their passport,
Like my wife loves getting the stamps on the pass
I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
They love it. But yeah, to do the two different countries,
the Jaguars stayed back to back weeks. Yeah, in London
they played back to back weeks. But to go you know,
not that far but still different scenery.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
I have like a pervy question, do you think those
guys are just getting a lot of international tail when
they're when they're like overseas for a week or so
and they're sticking around and traveling. Do you think do
you think these guys are like, well, I'm in a
foreign land.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
Let me start.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
You think they're swiping spot? What do you think you're
you're on those absence, so you think these guys are
swiping away. They're NFL stars in a foreign country.

Speaker 10 (34:46):
They know better, well, Brazil versus Europe.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Avoiding the drama.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (34:51):
Did you see what happened to the Steelers backup quarterback
Skyler Thompson.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Well, yeah, he's out of three four in the morning,
got robbed. Yeah, luckily he's all good.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
All right?

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Other things that made you go hm week for the NFL,
Danny g I gotta say your raiders, when Genty stands
up before he receives you know, the balls.

Speaker 5 (35:09):
And when JPJ is on the O line, like we
talked about on Friday.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Show, Genty finally showed everyone what we thought he was
gonna be from week one. But hey, he's a rook man.
Week four, it was cool to see him bust open
those high steps. What sixty four they gave him.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
They gave him some running room too.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
So that was pretty cool. Your team loss, but you
know what, you saw some good signs. Right, What an
emotional week for Giants fans, Right, you got to see
Jackson dart. But then you also find out the sad
fate of Malik neighbors, so we'll talk more. NFL week
four now coming up a little bit. We are gonna
watch We're gonna play Last One Standing. That's the game

(35:49):
we play every Monday. Maybe I could win that since
all my teams lose, maybe I could win something.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
You can watch us on our YouTube channel.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
Watch us watch us now YouTube dot com, slash Covin
on FSR. But uh, let's go back to your phone calls,
your feedback, things that made you go hmmm. Week four
of the NFL. I said, Danny, the Giants must have
had an emotional like day, right. I mean, you got
a glimpse of Dart and my wife was watching him

(36:17):
in the post game and she's like, he's so young.
I'm like, I mean, babe, you know we're like forty now,
we're not twenty anymore. You see these kids and you're like,
oh my god, there.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
Does she like the turtleneck and the bling? Look?

Speaker 1 (36:28):
You know what it is, though, what you forget because Cavino.
Let me play Cavino for a second, since he's not here.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
That's a corny look.

Speaker 9 (36:35):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
He'll say things like that, and I'll love to tell him. Yeah,
you know, I guess Jackson Dart could be your kid.
You hit a certain age where you have to accept
what these guys wear. To the post game, you look
foolish wearing as a forty year old guy. But Jackson
Dart with the clear frames and just you know, he's
almost got a little the I'll pack of hair, a
little bit handsome young kid showed that that's how.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
Bad he could play. He could play.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
That was one game I think we all did Nazee
come and the Chargers. We thought a lot of the
Chargers will just win this. Maybe we'll see Jackson Dollar
with a couple of moments. But hey, Giants played well
and I think Cam Scattaby was just a good fun
guy to watch. I think that team has good personality
for a team that's sort of not there yet but almost.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
You know. Yeah, the crushing news of the Lak neighbors
is really going to hurt the good vibes for today.
But yeah, that's that's the one thing, right, I hope.
I don't know if you guys feel the same way.
I feel like when you see the outcome of this game,
you're like, should have seen it, should have seen it
from a mile away cross country early start, you underestimate
the Giants because they're starting a new quarterback. What are

(37:42):
they going to do? Justin Herbert throws a couple of
bad interceptions, one they take back almost to the house,
which sets up a score for them, and everything that
went wrong for the Chargers ended up going wrong, and
you kind of look back and like, oh, yeah, that's
just one of those that it was only six and
a half for the spread. It was the same amount
that the Packers were favored over the Cowboys.

Speaker 5 (38:03):
Well, dB, I did do it because I was just
trash talking. But our friend Louis fled all the way
from Vegas to New York to see his Chargers, and
he was, you know, trash talking my Raiders, and I said,
you just wait until Jackson Dart puts it on your Chargers.
You're gonna you're going down. You're losing. And he was
sending me laughing emojis, Ah, we're gonna be four and
oh bro, And you know, I look, we all thought

(38:26):
Jackson Dart. All of us talked about him during the
NFL Draft, and we knew that he was going to
soon be the face of the New York Giants. I'm
excited to see how the rest of the season plays
out with him.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Yeah, I mean, listen, it's exciting, young guy. But you
said it best. You had the the high of Yo
Jackson Dart. This kid's got the goods. And then you're like,
am a league neighbors out sort of a little crushing, right, Yeah,
you would be excited to see what those two would
do together in his first year, and now it's like,
gotta wait.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
It's funny because the Chargers were a popular pick by
summing Survivor pools yesterday, and I think that's you know,
took some people out thinking that like Danny's friend yeah
four and oh easy pasy not the case.

Speaker 5 (39:08):
Yeah, our video guy Saga had the Chargers and in
Survivor pool.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
You know, the MBA. You bring up a good point.
I think us, as you know, fans, broadcasters, you know,
regular guys, we forget that going across country isn't always easy,
Like it really is one of those understated things in
sports when you know, do you think those guys want
to fly three thousand plus miles early game? You know you'resting,

(39:34):
you know, your body a little jet lag like that
is a real thing. But when when athletes are on
the road and sometimes you'll see in baseball when you're
playing three hundred I was gonna say three oh, it
feels like three hundred and sixty five days a year
when you're when you're changing time zones West coast road trip,
East coast trip, and you see a good team lose
to a sort of a low lower team, that doesn't

(39:57):
shock you.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
You know, it's one of those things as well. Where
and now can't be the excuse for the Chiefs, but
maybe it was in a different way. You look at
now what the Chargers had to endure. Sure they had
a little extra time because they played Monday night against
the Raiders in Week two, but they were all the
way to Brazil, all the way back. Then another road game.
They play at home last week against the Broncos, physical,

(40:19):
tough opponent in division, and then you have a shortened
week essentially because you're flying out to the East coast,
and you wonder if maybe that travel earlier in the
first couple of weeks ended up catching up with them.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
Yesterday when you talk about yes, I was I'm your sorry,
you know, Covino's not here, so I just have this
I can just interrupt you and I don't so sorry.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
I was just gonna say, listen to you being talking
about American sports teams getting all, oh, I'm out of
my time zone and I'm all out of it. What
if you're playing sports in Russia where they have eleven
time zones?

Speaker 3 (40:51):
How about that eleven?

Speaker 1 (40:52):
That's why I've always felt bad for Ivan Drago when
he used to have to fight in different time.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
Zones eleven times. Here, here's here's the.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
Something that maybe go hmm with that spots like we're
gonna let that Iowa Sam Russian time zone joke fly.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
Yeah, Now imagine along the TV promos are like eleven, Eastern, tenth, Central, nine,
Mountain eight. Crazy.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
I think a couple of weeks ago we were and
guilty time what time? And I'll put my hand up guilty.
When the Chiefs started out rough, you know, and then
you're like, oh man, then they got to play the
Ravens and they got to play this right now. It
shows you how unfortunate those blown opportunities the Broncos had

(41:43):
and how yesterday losing to the Giants. Right now, Kansas
City's right there, They're just two and two. Like everything
that we thought, oh it's everything was going wrong for
the Chiefs. The next week they could be right right
back in the mix. They you know, they get to
play the t Argers again. We'll see what happens there.
But it's just interesting how quickly things change in the NFL.

(42:05):
We were like writing the Chiefs off and they're right
there in the mix again.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
And considering everything else kind of falling apart with the
Ravens and the Chiefs doing some of that yesterday. Yeah,
it opens things up Denver tonight. I mean, if you
don't take care of business at home, you're behind the
eight ball a bit.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Just to me that it's funny that they're just right
back in the mix. And Baltimore at one in three,
I'm I'm mean, I'm the fool that keeps saying, oh,
they'll be fine, but one three, I.

Speaker 4 (42:33):
Think they will be fine. I think at one and
three they're still going to be okay. The Ravens, Yes, Rich,
I told you last week not to bet on them. Remember,
did you still put your money on them?

Speaker 3 (42:43):
A little bit?

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Not a ton, But yeah, I thought the Ravens. I
just thought they I foolishly thought they just had more firepower,
and I thought it wud be a battle.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
They just couldn't do them. Losing nom de Medbik for
the season he suffered in that injury in week two
really hurts their defense. And when you look at what
their defense has done or not done in the last
two weeks, I don't think if you don't have Lamar
for the next two weeks, they have a buy in
week seven. So you've got the Texans and I believe

(43:13):
it's the Rams the week after. Don't quote me on that.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
I believe ro Yeah, I said they play Ravens are
home against the Texans, and then the following week they
are home, they host the.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
Ranks, Yes, and then you have a buye. So if
Lamar's hamstring injury is any significance, you're holding them out
to the bye right like there's.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
Yeah, man, that's a game. As a Niners fan, I
wanted the Ravens to beat the Rams, but see you know, yeah,
oh yes, and for your Seahawks as well. So that
was interesting. Rams looking good you feel good.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
About you're a Seahawks fan, Yeah, I don't feel good
that they look good. But in the same breath, like
I think that the Colts prove that they're for real
yesterday to go to LA and play like they did
and have the opportunities that they had. The fumble at
the goal line by Ad and I Mitchell, that's a killer.
Mitchell had a holding call that called back a Jonathan
Taylor touched on run. All of those things, the to

(44:07):
tow at Well play carry. Rhoades broke it down on
our Sunday show on how to to at Well got
the eighty eight yard touchdown. There's also a guy that
fell on the play. Maybe it was a bad defensive call,
but the Colts were right there. That was something that
I took away from yesterday's game that made me go, Okay,
the Colts are for real. That was their opportunity to

(44:27):
show the other one is the exact opposite. I know
we all think that Mike McDaniel's going to get fired.
Brian Callahan's going to be gone soon in Tennessee. Cam Ward,
you know, I know I had his comments as well.
But Callahan also is arguing with reporters again, like say
points he was making.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Someone questioned the like the the guts or the the
I guess you would say the attitude of his team
and he got way defensive way quick. Did you hear
the cam Ward, I don't know if you're maybe cam
Ward said he's the answer. Remember we always go over
who's ass. He pretty much said it.

Speaker 11 (45:00):
Yeah, I mean we're keeping a book right now. We
ask so we own four. We have this one. We
got none to lose. We dropped a court of our
games and we've yet to do anything, so we have
to lock in.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
All I could take from what happened, what's happened in Tennessee.
And again they're a team that we don't focus on
a lot. Yeah, last year, all I can remember is
Brian Callahan yelling at Will Levis, like screaming yep at
the top of his lungs at Will Levis, making these
on head coach like things. I thought it was going
to work. I thought that he would be able to

(45:33):
take what he knew in Cincinnati and bring it over.
You now have a new front office there. You don't
score any points against the Texans. They missed a couple
of field goals or at least one I know for sure.
But and the Texans have a good defense. But that's
just that one. If you have your first year first
overall pick saying that after four games and you've got
new leadership in the front office. Man, I think changes

(45:56):
are coming quickly to Tennessee.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
I hope no one on our show here ever, uh
tells the world. We're asked, you wouldn't say that, right, guys?
Do you want do you want to come out and
be like hey, we asked, no, No, I.

Speaker 11 (46:08):
Mean we're keeping a book right now.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
We asked, especially a guy who's only been there eight minutes.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Right, Hey, guys, how do you feel that conven on
resha We asked, that's not a good sign for cam Ward.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
You'll hire a new producer to help with all these
video things. And then three weeks in they're like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
We asked, sorry, guys, but hey, any other observations. I
think we sort of went over most things. Am I
missing anything?

Speaker 3 (46:32):
Guys?

Speaker 1 (46:33):
Am I missing anything? Let's go to Fred and West Virginia. Fred,
what were your big observations this week in the NFL?

Speaker 3 (46:39):
Uh One?

Speaker 7 (46:41):
First thing off, I'll take a lot of delight in
you're going to be really quiet about the Mets and
the red conversation until tomorrow. Thanks, But no, I've got it.
This is completely outside of the box, never happened. But
I've got some I gotta I gotta take on the
tie a way to fix the tie. Nobody wants to

(47:01):
see a kick or decide it. Nobody wants to see
that it's mooring. Okay, I think flip the coin. You
go into the you go into overtime with with absolutely
zero starters, only bench players. Let let the guys that
have been watching the game, let them go out there
and decide who's going to win this game.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
You have to play overtime while you're with your backup quarterback,
back up running back and you know, receiver three and.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
Four suddenly turn into the preseason.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
That's a really exciting By the way, Fred, you're a
Reds fan, correct, Yes, sir? Do you see your Reds
dancing in the in the clubhouse? I will say I
thought that was pretty funny. People are mocking it. I
just feel like they're having fun, you know what I'm talking.

Speaker 7 (47:44):
About, right, I think they're having a blast. I can't
believe they made it this far. I'm a Reds fan,
have been all my life, and the fact they did
anything after the All Star break blows my mind.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
The last time you guys are relevant, Chris Sabo was
wearing goggles and Mark Shott was the owner. So you know,
good for you guys, the Mets. I told you, I'm
embarrassed as a Mets fan because it's not like, uh,
like when the Mets had collapsed in the past. It
was a like in seven or oh a, you had
like teams like Philly who had Ryan Howard and Jimmy Rollins,
and these teams are good and they were almost like

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like franchises that went on to win something. The Reds
win eighty three games and they were five hundred in
the second half. The Mets are just that much worse.
So it's aggravating. But hey, in a three game series
at Dodger Stadium with the Dodgers bullpen.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
Luckily for you, Danny, I think.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
The only bullpen worse than the Dodgers is the Reds bullpen.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
Yeah, Rich, save it for tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
Saving it for tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (48:38):
Baseball thoughts, we were talking about all the time zones. Yeah,
Brandon in Minnesota wants to weigh in on.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
What's up, Brandon? How are you, Bud?

Speaker 7 (48:49):
Yeah, So talking about time zones here as an excuse,
But then a bunch of Europeans just fly to a
whole different continent over the Atlantic Ocean, and kick our asses.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
That is true, a point that is true. But you know,
I'll say this, if you had to pick what time
zone is best to watch football on a Sunday, what
is the best time zone? I feel like East Coast
because even though we live on the West Coast, were
in Los Angeles, I still call them the one o'clock
and four o'clock games, even though we're out here out here,
ten am one is the central got right?

Speaker 3 (49:19):
Is at the noon? In three's the sweet spot growing
up in Central Like, it's just so natural that the
NFL starts at noon. It's like you felt like the
league decided noon.

Speaker 5 (49:32):
That's pretty good, that's pretty cool. Like I, you know,
I try to open a high noon at noon.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
I grew up in New York and oh my goodness,
one criticism, I'll give it all. In New Yorkers, they
think the world revolves around them and it doesn't, but
they think it does. East Coast is convinced, like, well,
the world certainly this.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
Is the time zone. Stuff's too late.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
There are games where I'm I'm I'm getting a little
you know, tired here on the West Coast. I'm like
some one of the East Coast nights, Canello Alvarez walked
out to the ring. I would think, what was it
after midnight Eastern, Danny, when we watched that fight two
weeks ago. So I don't think East Coats got it right.
West Coast might be a little early. Ten AM's a
little you know, you're getting your coffee and football starting

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on a Sunday, So you're saying central, Huh.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
I think Central just because of where that noon is.
It blew my mind with the East Eastern time zone.
Once when it was like eleven forty five, and this
was before there were two hour pregame shows, but there
was no pregame going on. There was another time I
was out for Monday night football. We got done with golf,
went and had dinner, came back and the game wasn't

(50:39):
on for another thirty minutes, you know, like this is
a Monday night. Like you're like, wait, I thought, well,
you know we're winding down in the game hasn't started,
did it.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
The only thing about the West Coast that's sweet and Danny,
I think you'll agree, after a nice weekend of doing
stuff with the kids and the family and stuff, you're
watching all your football. The fact that Sunday Night football
is like great, Like it's around dinner time, so you
almost feel dinner time till probably you know, if you
got kids, like dinner time till bedtime is Sunday night football.

Speaker 5 (51:05):
Yeah, yesterday, starting at six thirty am our time, we
had football all the way until the evening time. And
you're right, you could take the family out to dinner
and sneak a look over at the TV's at the
bar and watch the Sunday night came.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
But I remember as a kid, remember when Monday Night
football started at nine o'clock East Coast time Monday, when
Monday Night football was your primetime thing right before Sunday
Night football was. May you know the number one thing.
I was only allowed to stay up the whole game
if it was the Niners, because on the East Coast,
my dad's like, yeah, this game is gonna end after midnight.
You got school, kiddo, So you guys never realized that life.

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Not being able to stay up.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
Here's a doozy for you.

Speaker 4 (51:41):
If you're a Michigan State Spartan fan, you're an East
Lansing Michigan, that's Eastern time, and your game against usc
started at eight pm. Pacific time. That means your game
didn't start until eleven PM Eastern time and it didn't
get over until.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
Three in the morning. Yeah, eleven. How would you want
to start watching a game at eleven pm?

Speaker 1 (51:59):
Dude, you can't satisfy everyone. And again, I know I'm
saving baseball for tomorrow. But on the West Coast, if
your Tigers are Guardians fan, that's relocated to the West Coast,
your playoff games at ten am tomorrow morning. So there
is like, you know, weird things about time zones out
here on.

Speaker 3 (52:17):
The West Coast.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
So hey, at least it's not Russia. At least it's
not Russia, Sam. That is the takeaway of today. Oh man,
a depressing Monday. If your team just missed the playoffs.
Playoffs lines are lit, we want to play. Let's do

(52:41):
it every Monday. Last one is standing.

Speaker 5 (52:45):
You have five.

Speaker 6 (52:46):
Seconds to battle for your sports trivia lit man, put
your electronic devices down and pick your sports knowledge.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
It's CNRS.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
Last one standing, Last one standing.

Speaker 5 (53:05):
All right, I have four categories ready to go if
needed a tie breaker. This is not gonna end in
a tie like last night's game. Each contestant gets five
seconds to stay alive in the round. If you run
out of time or you answer incorrectly, Iowa, Sam will
take you out with this big, bad buzzer. Don't want
to hear that. Yeah, don't want to hear that. In
this game, you wouldn't. We keep battling until you are
the last one standing. If you win two of the rounds,

(53:27):
you are the top dog. Here are the contestants. No
coveno today, So you guys, this should be an easy
win for you.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
Oh man, oh, yeah, he doesn't really do much anyway.

Speaker 5 (53:35):
Fourteen time winner Rich Davis right away, Yeah, the leader
in the clubhouse. Thirty two time winner Dan Byer, Hello,
somebody stop this guy. Yeah, we're gonna go to the
studio lines right now. See if anybody could give Buyer
some competition? All right, dB, would you love to travel
to beautiful Waldoboro, Maine, Paduka, Kentucky, Minneapolis, Minnesota, Delray Beach, Florida,

(53:58):
or Boise, Idaho.

Speaker 3 (53:59):
Oh, we're going on the Twin Cities Minneapolis, all right?

Speaker 1 (54:03):
Go that is Sean Hi, Sean, Hey, Sean, Hello, Hello Sean.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
What do you do for a living there in Minnesota?
The credit union anchor banker. Let's go all right.

Speaker 5 (54:16):
By the way, spot is the fact checker during this game.
When I say your name, the clock is going to start.
And be patient with Spotty. A lot of anxiety in
this game.

Speaker 3 (54:24):
Because I hate it so much. A good day in
the market today. He has to look the answers up.

Speaker 5 (54:28):
All right, first category, plenty of time in can kun
what sorry, Rich, you have five seconds to name an
MLB team who has the fewest playoff appearances since the
year nineteen ninety five. MLB team fewest appearances in the
playoffs since ninety five. We'll take the bottom eighteen and
there's a few ties. All right, bottom eighteen, Rich, you're

(54:48):
going to be at first starting right now, go.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
Bottom eighteen since what year ninety five?

Speaker 3 (54:57):
Marlins on the list three.

Speaker 10 (55:00):
Buyer Rockies Rockies numbers yes with five Sean Irates Pirates
have three.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
Rich.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
The team that just ends down my Mets, the Reds.

Speaker 10 (55:18):
Reds yep with four buyer. I'm gonna go White Sox,
White Sox correct with five sean.

Speaker 7 (55:32):
Sorry, we'll we'll go with the Royals.

Speaker 10 (55:36):
Royals with three.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
Yeah, that's the same thinking as Dan Bayer on the
White Sox, like they had one run or so two,
and that's it.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
Good battle in this category. Rich back, you had a
couple appearances.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
But I'm gonna say just because of the tough division,
the Orioles haven't had many appearances.

Speaker 10 (55:50):
Correct with only six?

Speaker 3 (55:52):
Nice Buyer. What about the Angels? Angels, yes, with seven?

Speaker 7 (55:58):
The Rangers.

Speaker 3 (55:59):
Rangers, guess with six?

Speaker 1 (56:03):
Rich, I'm gonna stick in that division. I feel like
it's always a treat when the Mariners make it, because
it's rare.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
The Mariners, they would be there with four. Buyer Nationals
Nationals with four as well, Boom Sean.

Speaker 7 (56:18):
Three Cubs not in the list.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
Oh sorry, brother, back to Rich.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
But I'm going to say because I feel like I'm
so unhappy. Usually the Mets, you would be correct. They've
never made this a fun fact. One time in their history.
They made the postseason back to back. They have seven.

Speaker 5 (56:36):
Yeah, They're the reason I thought of this category, Thanks Buddy.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
Buyer. Tigers Tigers on the list with five.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Back to Rich the Tigers, huh okay, I'm going Blue.

Speaker 10 (56:53):
Jays correct with five as well.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
Buy how many ways left a few? Yeah?

Speaker 10 (57:00):
Tom eighteen, Oh gosh, Padres correct with seven, Nice Rich.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
Three two. I'm gonna go Red Sox. That's wrong, that
would be wrong, man.

Speaker 10 (57:15):
Yeah, Buyer, what would you have had?

Speaker 8 (57:17):
Next?

Speaker 3 (57:18):
Twins?

Speaker 10 (57:20):
So you guys missed the last one though, Yeah, Buyer
wins that that round right there. Some of the ones
we missed, Yeah, the three you missed were Brewers with six,
h d Backs with seven, and Raised with seven.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
You know, I would not have said Brewers. I feel
like they're a I've had.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
Quite a bit. Yeah, especially as of as of late.

Speaker 4 (57:41):
Isn't it crazy that the Rangers, Royals, and Nationals have
all won a World Series the last ten years?

Speaker 1 (57:45):
And and uh, well, if you want to go back
to the two thousands, the White Sox had that one run,
they won a World Series and that's it.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
That's it. Oh, five twenty years ago.

Speaker 5 (57:54):
Buyer had the ball last. There he gets the point.
We moved to the second category, iron horses. You have
five seconds. Name an NFL player who leads the league
in all time games played, most career games played in
the NFL. All right, we'll take the top thirty. There's
a few ties. None in the top thirty are active players,
by the way. Top thirty starting in Minnesota with you, Sean,

(58:17):
when the when the timer starts right now, go.

Speaker 10 (58:21):
Brett Farv Brett Farve on the list with three hundred
and two.

Speaker 3 (58:25):
Buyer Tom Brady.

Speaker 10 (58:27):
Tom Brady on the list with three hundred and thirty five.

Speaker 3 (58:32):
Double talk Dickie.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
Adam Viniti Vin Erry with three sixty five, Number two
on the list.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
Sean.

Speaker 5 (58:43):
Three two one, Barton Anderson, What you saying number number one?

Speaker 3 (58:52):
Dang you you just got it in all right byre.

Speaker 9 (58:55):
I just want to say, John Carney, okay, yes, number
ten with yes, Connie's spoke okay, okay, Rich No, Matthew.

Speaker 3 (59:09):
Smells like cabbage. O three.

Speaker 9 (59:11):
Peyton Manning, Peyton Manning, uh not on the all right?

Speaker 1 (59:18):
Back to Sean, He's run out of kickers that are kimpmont.

Speaker 10 (59:22):
Jim Marshall, Jim Marshall, yep, number twenty great Way two fire.

Speaker 3 (59:28):
What about Bruce Matthews.

Speaker 10 (59:29):
Bruce Matthews, yes, ninety six at number three?

Speaker 3 (59:33):
Yeah, he was an iron man, all right, Sean. Uh.
Drew Brees Drew Brees.

Speaker 10 (59:40):
Is on the list, oh Man with two hundred and
eighty six.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
I still was choosing between Peyton Manning and Drew Brees,
and I picked wrong.

Speaker 10 (59:47):
Okay, nice battle here Back to Bayer what about Gary Anderson.
Gary Anderson is on the list at number three with
three hundred and fifty three games.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
All right, Sean, back to you.

Speaker 10 (59:58):
Three to Frank Frank or uh no Frank or no?

Speaker 5 (01:00:06):
Yes, that means Buyer walks off with back to back categories.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Boom. Yes, I picked one of the lists. You may
because of his longevity. Is big Trent Williams on that
list because he's been around forever? It seems no top
thirty if he was the one lineman that made that list.

Speaker 5 (01:00:27):
I was going to say Roethlisberger, but uh, guest, and
remember which I said, none of the top thirty were
active players. Okay, yeah, that is Buyer's thirty third win
in this game.

Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
Oh it's Jerry Rice on the list. Yeah, yes he is.

Speaker 5 (01:00:45):
All right, and Sean there in Minneapolis, we thank you
for playing.

Speaker 11 (01:00:50):
Thank you?

Speaker 4 (01:00:50):
Was fun?

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
Yeah? It was fun, wasn't it. Jerry on the top ten.
I can't win. I can't George.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
George Bland with old ass picture that they put next
to Brady when.

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
They were both. If you wouldn't have said Vinitary, I
would have completely blanked on Kickers. I would have gone
down the quarterback road, you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
Know, what I feel like I shot my yeah shot
too soon, I get opened up a.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
Whole new world.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
I'm so I can't even win. The Niners lose, the
Mets lose, I lose.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
I'm just a loser.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
Monday Coveno on Rich on Fox Sports Radio. The whole
crew is here, Danny g I was Sam Dan Byron Spotty.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
Thank you guys for hanging today and.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
Being such great contributors and teammates, unlike the Mets. Now see,
if the Mets had everyone contributing like you guys, they'd
be going to Dodger Stadium tomorrow. But no, it's the Reds.

Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
I cannot wait until tomorrow show because I need it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
I need twenty four hours to just sort of let
it sit in. I just read a you know, New
York broadcaster Mike francesa famous East Coast guy, just called
the Mets a bunch of gutless bums. Everyone is being
really hard this team, and I have a theory that
we're gonna get to tomorrow. And it's not just about
my Mets. It's about whether or not you run it
back sometimes or do you blow up a team like
let's just say the Ravens somehow can't figure it out

(01:02:12):
this year. Lamar's banged up and they missed the postseason.
Let's just say that were to happen. Are you gonna
really be like Harbaugh, You're out. We need to go
Henry Lamar. We're blown up these contracts now, because sometimes
you just have to run it back and say this
was a failure. Guys, what are we doing? So we're
gonna get to that tomorrow as we do it live

(01:02:33):
here Fox Sports Radio Studio Now tonight, double boozy Jets
and the Dolphins. I think the Dolphins just win based
on their cool uniforms, but I don't know. That's not
how things are played. You got the Dolphins at home
favored by two and a half, which is your typical
Vegas essentially your field goal points spread for the home team.

(01:02:57):
Is this a statement game for either team? Dan Bayer,
do you feel like Mike McDaniel shows that, hey, I
got I got some juice left here guys? Or is
this where the Jets win? It's like miserable for.

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
All of the calling for Mike McDaniel, the game against
Buffalo that he had in Week three, where they were competitive,
you would hope that they could carry that over tonight
means a lot more for them. Like if the Jets
lose again, it'd be a bad loss for Aaron Glenn.
That'd be zero and four. You don't want to be winless.
But it means a heck of a lot more for
the Dolphins in terms of where they are. Well, they

(01:03:30):
should win tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
I know that pregame speeches and hype could only get
you so far. You know, sometimes they'll be like, yo, guys,
it was a player only me only meeting, and you
expect that team to come out firing on all cylinders.
The next day they live a flame egg. So I
saw Tyreek Hill looking more fired up than I've ever
seen Tyreek Hill. I don't know if you saw. They

(01:03:51):
were showing some b roll on the field. Everyone's huddled
around Tyreek Hill, his hand movements. He was going nuts
firing up his team. So perhaps a quick start for
the Dolphins tonight. Jets, Dolphins, and then Bengals Broncos. This
should be a game that Denver sort of handles without
Joe Burrow, and you know that they should put up
some points against that Bengals defense, right Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
And it's gonna be a matter of if Jake Browning
can hold onto the football and not turn it over.
Like I don't expect the Broncos offense to be stopped
because the Bengals really haven't shown that their defense is
up to the task. So if Browning doesn't turn the
ball over, then I think we could have a fun game.
But otherwise, you know, I like Denver even though it

(01:04:33):
hasn't been a great start to them to their season.
Last week's lost to the Chargers a tough one, but
they were kind of dominated in that game. So Denver
better show up tonight. But if Jake Browning doesn't turn
the ball over, Bengals could be in it. Here's what
I like tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
We've been doing these teaser bets, and the teaser bets
I don't put in myself are usually the ones that win,
so good for you, bad for me. These teaser bets
will take two games, two layers, and you play with
six points. Here's what I like tonight. Broncos are favored
by seven and a half. That hook might get you,
but you know what, let's pull that down to Broncos
minus one and a half. So Broncos just need to

(01:05:06):
win by two at home. Should be a win for them.
So Broncos minus one and a half and take the
over under in the Jets Dolphins game and push it
from forty three and a half to forty nine and
a half and take the under. I mean, even though
I just said Tyreek Hill might be fired up, I
could see this game being at twenty to seventeen, twenty
four to seventeen and that's still under.

Speaker 3 (01:05:27):
So Justin Field's back tonight for the Jets. No Torod Taylor.
Interesting to see if it'll be more of the running
affair for the Jets. I think there'll be some points
in this game.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
So will there be forty nine and a half? I
guess I'll say so.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
We'll lock that in.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
And by the way, as I said Mike McDaniels, I
knew it was McDaniel. There's ones I always get wrong.
Griffin or Griffith I always get wrong. Is it Kathy
Gryffin or Griffith? Kathy Griffin?

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
Now the family guy, Peter Griffith, all right? Baseball now,
way now, I'm non doubting myself. Wait, Griffin, Peter Griffin
all right? Baseball manager? Is Peter Griffin and Kathy Griffin?
Baseball coach Tony baseball manager Tony LaRussa right karate kid, Daniel.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
So these are the things that haunt me.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
All right, We'll see you guys tomorrow. Enjoy your double
doozy Monday night football. We're back here tomorrow. We'll talk
some playoff baseball more NFL. Thanks for hanging until tomorrow.
A rivadrecy baby in the Promise Land.

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
Goodbye later