October 15, 2025 • 47 mins
Dan Beyer and Kerry Rhodes, in for Covino & Rich, explain how Brian Daboll has saved his job with the New York Giants. The guys react to Tua Tagovailoa apologizing for calling out Dolphins' leaders. Plus, how much would you pay for your team to win a title?!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
You made it to the middle of the week. Congratulations.
That's not a great thing for the Milwaukee Brewers. There's
a better chance of the Brewers getting a hit than
us starting with the NLCS today, I'm telling you, yeah,
it's been a rough two days for Brewer fans Dodger
fans here in southern California where we are based, already
making World Series plans. This thing is over. We'll talk
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some NLCS coming up a little bit later. There is
no Coveno in Rich today because the guys were in
for Dan Patrick earlier today up around the time carry
always gets up bright and early. Actually it's not even
bright when you get up, is it. It is not
bright at all. It's very dim. It's very dimn He
is an early riser. Me not so much welcome. We
are in four cn R today. There's no Danny g
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But there is a Ryan b Ryan Bershinger is our
executive producer today. Hye, Ryan Smith our technical producer. What's
going on, Ryan DiAngelo? Rest in power? Yes, yeah, all right,
absolutely absolutely, And Isaac Low and cron Is at the
news desk is gonna be with us giving us all
the great updates of the day.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Hello, Isaac, salutation, Sorry about your Brewer's dad.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
It's not over yet yet. We'll see, I'll tell you.
I just I'll say one thing about there is there's
when you're trying to enjoy a baseball game and you
only can enjoy about eight minutes of it because it's
just like, go, the first pitch of the game, gone right,
everything great, Here we go turning it around, taking that
(01:51):
momentum carry from the end of game one when you
almost made the comeback. First batter of the game are
often running this is a new Brewers team and yeah
that that's it basically for the rest of the game.
It was a tough one. Last night. Last night was
tougher to watch actually then Game one because you still
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actually thought that you had a chance in Game one
because the Dodgers weren't doing anything. And then last night
at the Dodgers adding on Paz with the double, ta
Oscar Hernandez the home run, and then it was just
downhill from there. It was a rough night if you're
a Brewers fan. Dodgers fans absolutely loving up. But they're
up to Oh, we got a bigger question when it
comes to the Dodgers and Brewers, and just a little bit,
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how are you doing without your Yankees playing right now?
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Why did you have to bring that up? That's I mean,
you could have wallowed in your own self there for
a bit. Misery loves companies. I see that you just
kind of cazively tossed that to the side. But the
Yankees will be back, you know, they're they're never gone
too far from the from the radar. And you know,
a couple of key signings here and there, I mean
one or two, and get Garrett Cole back next year,
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we'll be back in the mix. But we got to
worry about the Brewers right now. You guys are having
to deal with obviously the most well constructed baseball team
on the planet, and we'll get into that later.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
But they're just really good when they're on. And yeah,
the Dodgers are inevitable is what I've heard for the
last week, and I kind of just tossed it aside,
And now you're starting to wonder, Okay, maybe that's the case.
Brewers haven't hit. It's it's their own fault. But a
credit to Blake Snell and Yoshinobu Yamamoto, who've had a
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great performances. Yamamoto with the complete game last night.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
I mean, Shohey hasn't hit either, So I mean they're
just so deep. But doesn't you know, I mean like
it doesn't matter for them personally. Your team won. I
mean the Dodgers won last night, but I.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Mean it was was was Game two a more enjoyable
watch for you? Or Game one is a Dodgers fan?
Game two was? I was Game one?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I felt like I needed a cigarette, yeah, to the
end of Game one, so but not in a good way,
in a in a like my heart was pounding and
I actually needed to sit down and relax for ten.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Minutely, And they're a healthier ways instead of having the cigarettes,
that's right, dip your faces and mice.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
So something called that's true. Yeah, I don't know what
you guys. I thought it was kind of bs. The
birds didn't pull any eight six two double plays last night,
Like you're like, what a joke? You know, like, what
are you doing? What are you doing? But uh, we'll
get to more baseball later on and really a bigger,
bigger outlook for what could be the outlook of the
NLCS and the possible World Series. The reason I bring
up your Yankees, Oh here we're going get it. No, No,
(04:27):
I'm not. I'm transitioning, okay, because there's a team in
New York that you're starting to fall in love with. Yes,
and you've already fell in love with the Yankees and
they've broken your heart. But this is this is so
the NFL as we enter week seven right now, Carrier Oats,
the team you're starting to fall in love with is.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
The New York Giants. I'm starting to fall in love with.
You know what they can be now we know they're
still a little bit away it scenes, but when you
bring in a player like Jackson Dart and you're bringing
a player like Cam Scattaboo, and these guys aren't afraid
of anything, doesn't even matter if they win right now,
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Like for me, it's they're building something special and they
have a core group of guys now, and then you
think about bringing Malik Neighbors back if he gets back healthy,
and then you have weapons, you have something to hang
your hat on moving forward. And then you talk about
we've talked about day ball before, right, and so we
pretty much had him out the door this year, and
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there really wasn't any saving grace with anything that was happening.
They were starting Russell Wilson. I'm like, that doesn't make
any sense, So like, what are you doing? Then you
bring in the guy that has all the confidence in
the world but also has the game to back it up,
and it lights a fire underneath this teammates. You can
see his teammates fighting with them, He's conversing with them
and having these raw, raw moments as teammates. And so
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when you see that energy come into the building, it
might Y'll say Brian Dave baul job. And also when
you look at the NFL and you look at their schedule,
because I just looked at it because I was like, Okay,
I am high on them. But then I looked at
the schedule and the schedule looks tough on paper. But
then the Eagles are struggling. So like the Denver Broncos,
are okay, Like you know, it's not like it's crazy
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to see them kind of win some games here.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
The Broncos are their opponent in Week seven. But I
think just as a whole, when you look at the
NFC East, the NFC East isn't what it was when
we were starting. Yes, a little more than a month
ago in Week one, so a month and a half ago,
we're looking at at how the NFL is shaping out
or saying, man, you're the if you're the Cowboys, who again,
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we're gonna be without Micaeh Parsons. We knew they were
going to be gonna be holes there. But the Giants
we also did not think a lot of and you
thought Commanders and Eagles. I wasn't as high on the Commanders,
but I would say generally most people are that's four
losses right away, Like the Eagles are going to beat
the Giants both times, and the Commanders is going to
beat the Giants both times? Right? What the head? And
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and well that can't happen anymore because the Giants have
already beaten the Eagles did so last week. But now
even look at the standings, and while the Giants are
in last place, right now, you still have Philadelphia sitting
there at four and two. You've got Washington middle of
the pack at three and three, and you have the
Cowboys with their tie with the Packers. But there's still
a two win team. So I don't know if it's
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and I know you're not saying it's this year, no,
but it's more of a competitive division. Even with the
Giants team that lost on the road to New Orleans,
I mean New Orleans gave the Patriots some fits this
this past weekend. There is more there and more of
a possibility for the Giants to make headway in the
NFC East even this season.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
And you always high on the Giants D line and
their pass us next to Lawrence Brian Burns something right,
and so now like they have something to play a
little bit harder for.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Right. When you have a guy that you believe in,
it really elevates the room. Right.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
And so now defensively, we're not just out there playing
to make sacks and make our money. Now it's like
I believe in the product that we put on the field.
And that's a different story. Now you can feel that.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Interergew you said something earlier and our executive producer Ryan
Berschinger has printed out these great numbers that we were
talking about pre show. Are you ready for this? What's
on July eighth? Odds to have Brian Dabole be fired
the first head coach fired in the National Football League
(08:27):
were four to one. Yeah, shortest odds of anyone. Ye.
Mike McDaniel was second. This is July eighth, five to one.
Shane Steiken of the Colts was third, six to one.
This is July eighth, right. The guy who got fired
this week Brian Callahan ten to one. In fact, there
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were seven coaches that were ahead of Brian Callahan on
July eighth of most likely to lose their job first
in the NFL. Moving along to September twenty fifth, all right,
let me say the first one. Dan, Okay, let's say it.
Mike McDaniel's got to be number one.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
He was.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
In fact, he was minus one fifty. That's how bad
it was the Dolphins. He was minus one fifty. Brian
Callahan was plus one fifty. Brian Dable third, so he
had dropped the third at plus three hundred. September twenty
fifth was between weeks three and four of the season,
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So you end up making the change to Jackson Dart
at that point, and the odds the odds now as
of October eighth, this was a week ago today. Brian
Callahan was then minus money one thirty, Mike McDaniels plus
one fifteen, Brian Dables plus three hundred. I don't have
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the updated odds for today, but Brian Dable was Numero
uno first coach to be out the door. Brian Callahan
was eighth on that list. We are six weeks into
the season and now Callahan is out of a job
and day Ball by attaching himself to Jackson Dart yep
and attaching himself to Cam Skataboo, which is a trend
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that I think coaches in the NFL, if they haven't
caught on to, need to catch on to, may have
saved his job in New York, which, by the way,
when Sakwon Barkley was running all over the NFL last season,
it seemed like a far fetched idea. Now to have
day Ball and even Joe Shane their gms stick around. Yeah,
I think it may have saved their jobs in New York,
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and I don't.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
And there were reports that a lot of people in
the organization wanted Jackson Dart to start day one, and
I think that's the other part of it, right, So.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
There's this you know, as.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
A head coach, you want to have stability at that
quarterback position, and you want to have somebody that can
at least execute what you want to get done. And
I'm sure that may have been some of the thinking
with Russell Wilson been history right, and have been played
a lot of games in the NFL, So that's fine.
But when you got Zackson Dart and a lot of
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us talked about it, like the energy surrounding him going
in a lot of people didn't know what he was
going to be, but I was very huge on him,
seeing him at old miss being able to make all
the throwers, but also just the energy I was talking about.
In the NFL, it gets mundane. Those guys are professionals,
they've done it a long time, right, So when you
get new energy in there that can actually get the
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job done, it's it's such a different it's such a difference.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Makeup. Do you want to know the real reason why
I think this story is relevant today? Why is that
it's not because the Giants are coming off of a
week's Week six win against the Philadelphia Eagles. It is
because Brian Callahan got fired this week and James Franklin
got fired on Sunday, and so you look at college
football and it's the what have you done for me lately?
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And listen, James Franklin's situation in Penn State is one
that we've all always talked about. I just don't think
you fire the guy mid season when two and a
half weeks ago you were on a quest to win
a national championship and maybe run the table and go
undefeated with everybody coming back. I understand Drew Aller's injury
makes things different. The three straight losses, how poorly they
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looked against UCLA, I get all of that stuff. I
don't think he should have been fired, But Mike McDaniel,
according to these odds, should have been fired in Week three.
He has not been as if yet for whatever reason,
the Dolphins are sitting there at one and five. The
Titans got to the point, and I said this yesterday
on the network that I think that they fired Brian
Callahan because they didn't want Mike Rabel and the Patriots
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to come in and run all over them and have
Brian Callahan be the guy that replaced Mike rabel O
would make him look even worse. There are a lot
of reasons on why these moves are made, and in fact,
the Giants move to Jackson Dark didn't even make sense
at the time. And the reason I say that is
because if you're starting Russell Wilson at the beginning of
the season, you're saying, we want to go with the veteran, Well,
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you're ready to move off the veteran three games in.
Apparently they were, and it has worked for them to
this point. However, Carrie, they signed another veteran that we know,
Jameis Winston is on that team, and so if Russell
Wilson wasn't working, I thought they were gonna go to
Jameis Winston. I thought he was going to be because
Jackson Dart was the late first round pick that they
wanted to maybe wait some more time and when the
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season was lost or was really getting out of hand,
then they could put Dart in. But that's not what
happened at all. And maybe Brian Dabele is playing chess
and I'm playing checkers here, but by starting Russell Wilson,
he has one great game against the Cowboys, but still
throws a bad interception and then is embarrassed on Sunday
Night Football in a game against the Chiefs where we
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see the errors of Russell Wilson that made Brian Dable
look like a genius, because now Jackson Dart enters the
game with a cape and Cam Scattabu has been his
own sort of bit of sensation. But if you don't
have Russell Wilson having poor performances in the first couple
of games of the year for the Giants, you don't
get as big of a boom for Jackson Dart if
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you start the week one.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
I actually agree with that, but I also look at
the the approach of what if as well? Right, So,
even if that's the case, Dan, and that could be true,
and I love to take but what about the games
you left out there? Like this can be a different story, right,
Like if Jackson is playing Day one the way he's
playing right now, do they win a one or two
of those games and the different.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Person they Yeah, do they know what I mean? Do
they beat the Cowboys in that that shootout game? Do
they fare better against Kansas City? Again, a Jackson Dart
team did loose to New Orleans or the Saints. But
it was also a game where the Giants were driving
there was a cam scataboo fumble that they pick up
and run all the way back. So we're talking about
you know, we're talking about a play here and a
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play there. And you played eight years in the league,
you were an All Pro. You know how one play
can make the difference in anything. But it's just interesting
on how the tenor the feeling around the New York Giants.
And I'm sitting next to a guy who spent half
of his career with the Jets right now, and they're
a miserable, winless team despite the new energy that's going
to be tried to be infused in the in the organization,
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it's just been a tough goal for them. And you hear
the Giants realistically probably haven't done that much better, but
still it seems like it's a world of difference. And
you're right, I actually think that when you look at
their future, if you have this combo with a healthy
Molik neighbors. Next year, you drafted ab Dual Carter out
of Penn State with your first round pick, So if
you have to make moves with other guys. Your defensive
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line and your your pressure, and your quarterback is still there.
I never would have thought that I'd be saying this,
but I think Brian Dable and Joe Shane of a
future with the Giants. It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
You get a quarterback and you actually you actually cash
in on that, on that number one pick for a quarterback,
and you make it work.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Man.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
It changes the whole whole thing. It saved John Harbaugh's
job in Baltimore years back with Lamar Jackson. Yes, when
you had to move off of Joe Flacco, and I
think that was even more difficult because of Joe Flacco
and what he meant with the Ravens organization and winning
a Super Bowl. But you had to do what you
had to do. Now, John Harbaugh's coming under fire now
for how the season has started for the Ravens. They'll
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get Lamar back after they buy in Week seven. But
it is a recipe that I do believe in. If
the Chicago Bears would have had success last season, yeah,
obviously Matt eber Flus would still have been the head coach.
They wouldn't have had to fire the offensive coordinator and
then fire the head coach and tear it all down
with Caleb Williams. But it didn't work out maybe for
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their own doings. But if you can get success from
your rookie quarterback and not show dysfunction and show a
new energy again, they're two and four, but it feels
like they're three and three. Like it, honestly does, it
can really change things around. He's carry Roads. I'm Dan
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Speaker 7 (18:08):
Waiting on one of those big Max Mounthson swings another
three to two pitch on the way months. He hits
one in the air, center field, free lick. He is
ethel wall.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
This ball is out of hair. There's that big swing.
What you can find one of the Brewers three hits
to play instead, guys, that's what we gotta go with Dodgers,
get that five to one win over the Brewers in
the NLCS up two to oh in the best of
seven series. Tonight it's Game three of the ALCS Mariners
home in Seattle to the Blue Jays. The m's up
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two o in that series. You'll see tonight's game on
Fox Sports one.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
By the way, you know what's crazy, Dan, Why couldn't
Lad Junior be hitting away? He's hitting right now in
this series right he's hitting zero percent right now. In
the Yankees series, he's beat in one thousand.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
That was crazy. The Brewers are hitting zero I think
in this NLCS le, truly, it's been it's been a
rough go scene shifts for the NLCS. Yes to La
tomorrow where it's chili here. It's been rainy, it rained
yesterday and now a little cool day, but starting to
warm up over the next couple of days. I don't
know if it's going to warm up in Miami. From
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the chill of Tua tongue of I Looa and his
words that he had on Sunday about his team, attacking
the leadership of the team and players not showing up
for player only meetings, saying some were late some didn't
show up at all. I thought it was an attack
on Mike McDaniel as well, because anytime you bring in leadership,
I think it's to attacking himself if he's the quarterback.
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Tua talked about his comments that he made on Sunday
earlier today.
Speaker 10 (19:42):
As a leader of this team of the Miami Dolphins.
You know the comments that had been said. I would say,
I've made a mistake, and I'm owning up to that
right now. You know, I've talked to guys on a
team about it, talk to the leaders about it, and
they know my heart. They know that the intent was right.
But you know, the intent can be right. But when
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things get misconstrued or however the media wants to portray it,
you know that that leaves a void of silence and
a lot of questions for the guys on our team.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
There's nothing misconstrued. I mean, he said what he said,
He meant what he said. Now, this recanting of what
he tried, well, trying to recant what he said here
is just coming from the front office, right that's coming
from the Miami Dolphins and telling them to temper it
down and try to cool that situation down and you know,
at the end of the day, he's lost his team.
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This team doesn't believe in Tua. I mean, you can
look at him when he go out and play like
he doesn't elevate them. There's a disconnect. And like I've
told you before, Dan about to I really feel like,
and this is me like at the player carrier, Like
I really worry about him and his and his mental
health and the stuff from the concussion stuff. It's a
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big thing for me when I see him. He doesn't
look like he has that spark in his eye that
he had once he first came in. And there's a
lot that goes to playing a quarterback position outside of
playing the game well, and he's just not managing that
well at all.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
There's a different view of when you watch him play now.
Every single time you cringe when he's about to get
hit or could take a hit. Yes, because of what
we've seen on multiple occasions in the National Football League.
Not to make any joke about of that stuff or not,
but I kind of cringe when I hear the apology
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because guess how many players and I guess how many
players don't guess because I'm going to tell you the
answer guess how many players have more experience than to
a tongue of Ailoa does on the Dolphins roster. You do.
Harry will only text me when his picks are right.
He is radio silence when they're wrong. You picked the
Lions on Sunday night. I didn't hear a peep from him.
(22:00):
Oh damn. But look they had all six dbs myth
not didn't have to. Yeah, they needed two graphics at
separate screens for NBC to put that up. Okay, all right,
take a guess that have more experience in the NFL.
How many players on the Dolphins rosters have more experienced
than Tua does, more years in the NFL than he does.
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I'd say one. Darren Waller Okay, he's one of them. Yeah,
there's five, okay, but Darren Waller has one and Darren
Waller's been a Dolphin for two months?
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Right?
Speaker 7 (22:33):
Right?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Yeah? Who are the other leaders he's talking about? Who
are the other leaders that he had to talk with
and clarify if you're not that leader? Yeah, that's like,
this is his team. A quarterback who wears the C
patch on his jersey is a captain, a leader of
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this team. If you believe what you said. If you
believe even the words that you're saying, you don't need
to apologize, right, And I think that's part of the
problem with the Dolphins is who is calling out the leaders? Dude,
you're one of them. If not, you're one A the
quarterback of the team. With only five other players with
more years alec Ingolds, I know been in Miami for
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a while. Here's not a lifelong Dolphin. He played for
the Raiders for a little bit. Cedric Wilson has been
in different spots throughout the league. He has more years
than two A. But they're only five players on the
roster that have actually been in the NFL longer. He's
been in Miami longer than pretty much anybody on the team.
And you're the quarterback of the team. That's my problem
with it is so now you're going back on it.
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You said what you said, and you're one in five.
Who cares if they don't believe you? Right?
Speaker 4 (23:48):
And Dan, that's the thing right there, right like we
just said, and I said, they don't follow him. We've
talked about the player players only meetings, don't go to
player only meetings, that they don't respect the person that's
holding the meeting. So I'm sure the fact that he
said that, I'm eighty percent sure that he's the one
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that called the meeting and some people were late or
didn't show up. Sure, And so yes, he was angry
about it and wanted to speak about it after. And
then so then whose fault is that for not showing up?
If they don't respect to as a leader, is that
to his fault? I don't think it is okay because
he's the quarterback of the team. I'm sorry, there's more
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weight to that position. Any quarterback of the team that
isn't a rookie on that squad that is starting is
a leader on that team by default the dan by default. Yes,
we had Brett fav come in for one year and
no eight is he a captain? No, but he got
the C on his chest because he's the quarterback. And sure,
there's layers to what you're saying there that I thought
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that stood for creepy. That's what I'm hitting here. You
go ahead, But I didn't say that Brett. But no,
what I'm saying is like, is he the captain?
Speaker 11 (25:06):
No?
Speaker 4 (25:06):
We look up to him and we thought he was
a great player. Obviously, that comes with the territory. He's
Brett Farv. He had his own locker room. He was
in the locker room with the coaches, not with us.
He's not He's not a leader. And so just because
Tua has the Captain the Sea on his chest doesn't
mean people respect that.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
But his situation is different than Fares of course, like Fares, yeah,
Fars got all the years in the National football but
he hasn't been in the Jets locker room. Two has
been in the Dolphins locker room since day one, too,
has been wrong to the Dolphins locker room. Two has
been knocked out of games, like it hasn't been an
easy ride, Like there's enough, there's enough trial and tribulations
(25:45):
where it's not like Tua just came in and was like,
all right, you're the leader because you were a first
round draft pick, Like he's gone through enough to be
that guy for sure. I I commended I commended him
for speaking his mind out, for speaking his mind on Sunday.
I didn't think the verbiage in the words that he
used were correct because I felt leadership ended up reflecting
(26:10):
on Mike McDaniel, and it ended up reflecting poorly on him.
So if guys are late for meetings, I don't care
if you like to her or not. You're a professional
and it's up to them to show up. And if
the Dolphins have a problem with it, then deal with
the other players. Guess what's going to be the toughest
(26:30):
one to get rid of of everybody else of course,
So like today of him coming in and then making
a public apology, kneeling to the to the gripes of
the other players who don't have any near the equity
in that organization that he does, just blows my mind.
I get that, I understand that anyway, I just I
(26:51):
was I was curious when I heard at the podium
today because quarterbacks will speak on Wednesday, and how things change.
Awful sign they're going into Cleveland this week. I think
they're gonna get beat by the Browns if he's coming
back and having to apologize because there are some four
and five year veterans who were late for meetings and
(27:13):
now he's got to cover up for them as well.
I mean, it's bad enough he had to cover up
for Tyreek Hill's Shenanikins, but you're like, well, Tyre kills
Tyree Hill he's a game changer. Maybe I got to
figure out a way to do it. I don't know
anybody else on the Dolphins worth covering up for, right, Yeah,
Devon Eitchen. Maybe maybe, but still doesn't make a lot
(27:33):
of sense to me.
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Speaker 11 (27:46):
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That's expresspros dot com. Ryan Berschinger is our executive producer,
Ryan Smith our technical producer, and Isaac Lowenkron is at
the news desk. Everybody welcome in on this conversation because
I'm telling you last night was tough as a Brewers fan.
(28:52):
And the Dodgers are now two wins away from advancing
to the World Series, and Dodger fans are counting it down,
saying six more wins to back to back World championships.
I hate Carrie when a baseball topic is being talked
about and the only line is is this good for baseball?
(29:15):
I can't stand it. Is this good for college football?
Is this good for hockey? Is this good for the NBA?
Is this good? It bothers me so much because I
don't think that we talk sports like that when we
talk about ratings. This market, yeah, no, duh, LA would
be a better market than Milwaukee. I don't think anybody
(29:36):
at home is like, I'm not watching this game because
ninety two percent of the country isn't watching it either,
Like nobody talks like that. We don't. We sure we
look at ratings, we look at numbers, but nobody really
talks sports like that. But this is something that I
think that we can all get behind and just if
you'll give me a minute. Jeff Passing the ESPN wrote
(29:56):
an article this week on why the Brewers died series
was important for the future of baseball, and his point,
Carrie was this that if the Dodgers win the NLCS
and then ultimately go on to win the World Series,
you will likely see a workstoppage in twenty twenty seven
because of owners in baseball wanting a salary cap that
(30:19):
they are pointing to the Dodgers and they're extreme spending,
not more extreme than the Mets this year, but they're
extreme spending being bad for baseball. Where you have a
team that is so dominant that nobody else can compete,
that would be the argument, the general argument where if
the Brewers would win this series and go on to
(30:40):
the World Series, it shows you on how a team
that is bottom third in payroll in the major leagues
this year twenty third to be exact, can put a
team together and still compete and win a World Series.
That makes sense, right. So the question is, and I'm
looking at you Dodger fans, and I'm looking at you
(31:02):
Ryan Berschinger, do you really want to win a World
Series at the cost of the twenty twenty seven season
not being played? Is that what you are willing to
do to your baseball fans just so you could win
another title? Yes, you would give up an entire season
in the future. So when you're sitting there in June
and July and there's no trips to Dodger Stadium, you
(31:25):
would say, Man, twenty twenty five was great.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
I can just watch replays of the twenty twenty five places.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Way be fine, all right, Way to take one for
the team or not, that's totally fine. I just ron,
Are you a Dodger fan, I know you're a Raiders fan.
Speaker 9 (31:41):
Yes, I am.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Okay, So would you give up the twenty twenty seven
season as well?
Speaker 9 (31:45):
Yes, because all that means is a longer title reign. Yes,
absolutely Well.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
You'd have to win it next year, which you probably
would as well, and then you'd have a three No,
not so fast, Dan, Oh yeah, thank you.
Speaker 6 (31:55):
Sorry.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
The Yankees are gonna win it all. Finally, the guys
the team that's what third with they third in the
if the salary rankings, it would have been one if
we got one total. That's why we lost. But you're
ruining it for the other twenty nine teams by not
having baseball. If the Dodgers were what That's kind of
(32:18):
the premise of Jeff Passons article, which was very interesting.
Now I want to ask just a general question, and
I want to hear from you as well. Eight seven
seven nine nine six six three six nine. That's eight
seven seven nine to nine on Fox. What would you
give up for your team to win a title? What
(32:40):
would you give up? Would you pay? All right? Would
you pay a one thousand dollars if your favorite team
were to win a championship? Is that the ceiling? The thousand?
The thousand dollars? I think? I think one thousand dollars
is I think that that's a good number because it's
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not peanuts, but it's not like fifty grand. We're like, okay,
now my life is going to be ruined by it.
But would you pay one thousand dollars if you could
automatically have the Dodgers win a championship right now? Does
that seem Do you think it seems too low? Do
you think that number is too low? I think it's
too low. What number would you think that's to make
(33:25):
it interesting for everybody involved? I would say five, but
five on it. Five thousand dollars, Yeah, just to make
it a little interesting. You got people maybe calling in,
so I want to see what Yeah, see what that
energy feels like. All right, would you pay one thousand
or five thousand dollars for your Dodgers to win a title?
Speaker 3 (33:42):
To win it this year? No, I would not know
they won it last Yes, year, I'd have to dodge defend.
I'm thinking of it too. Like, Okay, if I break
things down in terms of the amount of money I
spent on a championship, memorabilia, the train, tickets to go
to the parade, that was probably like two fifty So
I think maybe that would be my price.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
You'd be seven hundred and fifty bucks for But if
it was, if it was five grand, that's nothing.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
We gotta make it a little like like if everything
else fails, all those fails, we need to we need
to win a championship.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
It's been a long time you talk to a Red
Sox fan in nineteen eighty six, right right after the
ball goes through Buckner's legs. They're selling everything. Yeah, exactly,
all right, Isaac Lonkron, you're pretty imparcel. You're you're a broadcaster.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
It depends, and this is why I'm so glad you're
opening it up to the rest of the country. I
think the price goes up depending on the drought because
Buffalo Bills fans listening to this, Oh goodness, Cleveland Guardians
fans listening to this. Yeah, we'll just take care of
that college fund a little later. A championship lasts forever.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
All right. Then the Carrey's number of five thousand is
in play. By the way, if the Bills go to
the Super Bowl, even though the games in Santa Clara,
it is going to be full of Bills fans. Yeah,
it is going to be sixty thousand Bills fans making
(35:18):
their way across the country. It was the topic of
conversation in Atlanta for Monday Night's game on how Bill's
mafia travels. I went to the Bills game a couple
of weeks ago in Buffalo, and I grew up in
Packer country, and there are a lot of similarities between
the two, and now I think that the Bills. There's
also a bit of a younger fan base with Buffalo
(35:39):
as well, which I think is unique. And it's unique
because people like me remember the four lost Super Bowls,
but you would have more younger people who don't remember
those glory days, but they still have attached themselves to
this team. So I find it interesting. Let's go to
the phones. Dan is in Connecticut, Dan, welcome, I'm the
(36:00):
Cavino and Rich what team and how much would you
spend for them to win a title?
Speaker 5 (36:05):
Well, I'm a Giants fan, and I think a thousand
dollars is fair if you put it down preseason.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
So one thousand dollars for the New York Giants to
win a super Bowl. And they've won, they've won a couple. Yeah,
So the fact that he would pay a thousand is good.
Would you pay five grand?
Speaker 7 (36:22):
No?
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Because he just saw them exactly like thirteen years ago,
fourteen years ago win a Super Bowl. So ae thousand
is the level for a repeat Super Bowl to have
it in your lifetime. That's good, all right, that's the
start of it. Giants off the board. Dusty is in Missouri.
All right, Dusty, what team and how much are you paying?
Speaker 5 (36:44):
Any team from Missouri on Curvis? The Tigers, Chiefs, Blue,
the Cardinals are never going to happen.
Speaker 11 (36:49):
But I will show you.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
I think seven grand to go. What's the Chiefs whoop
it up on the Bengals in the AFC Title Game.
It's last time we won the ring. So if I
pay you to go watch, I'm not knowing what's going
to happen.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Ten grand. We're gonna put Dusty down for ten grand
for the Chiefanges. This is I I, as a Seahawks fan,
was fortunate enough to see the Seahawks in person beat
the Broncos in Super Bowl forty eight. There was a
part of me at halftime, especially when Percy Harvin ran
the opening kickoff back, that thought, all of these fans
traveled to New York, which, by the way, not cheap
(37:26):
like Super Bowl weeks are going to be expensive. Now
you got to figure it out in New York. Good
luck with that traveled so far to watch their team
win a Super Bowl with Peyton Manning and it was
over by halftime and the next day you're going to
be stuck in a blizzard. Now, if you're a Broncos fan,
you're probably used to it, But still I thought, what
a colossal waste of money, like, like, what do you
get from that experience? But the Dusty's point, he's paying
(37:49):
seven thousand, just doesn't even know the outcome. If he
could determine the outcome, what's a few more thousands dollars? Right? Exactly?
All right, Davidson Seattle. I don't think he's talking about
the Seahawks. Could maybe he's talking about the Mariners?
Speaker 11 (38:02):
David, Yeah, yes, how are you guys?
Speaker 2 (38:05):
What team? And how much?
Speaker 11 (38:07):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Mariners?
Speaker 12 (38:08):
Of course I was at that game in ninety five
when Edgar hit that double over extra innings, and it's
just good for the community.
Speaker 11 (38:16):
Your your Boyol East, he's dropping seven I'll take it
seventy one.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Seventy one dollars making an auction that I got. Anybody
else want to pay more than David seventy one hundred
dollars for your team to just automatically win a title
like I think like Ryan thought of it in a
good spot, just like Ryan's ban chief. Dan, Well, that's
(38:43):
he may have been cheap, but he was thinking, listen,
if I'm gonna put two hundred and fifty dollars in
locker room t shirt. And I mean back in the
day it's Sports Illustrated subscription, so you could get the
championship pack if you're like, like, so that's part of
the cost already. Yeah, but when we have Dusty said,
I'm laying seven grands down, like that is up the game.
(39:04):
By the way, he went and saw them against the
Bengals when the Chiefs had already won a couple of
years ago, right, so like like Dusty is in, like
Dusty and his Cardinals whatever to his point, but he was.
He was in on the Chiefs even though they were
just a couple of years removed from winning Super Bowl
fifty four over the forty nine Ers the first time.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
And what's so crazy about it is just how adamant
and so crystal clear they are with their thoughts on
this too, Like there's no hesitation about what they would
pay to see their team win. So to see real
fandom that way, Like for me personally, you know, I'm
a Dallas Maverick fan. If I could pay five grand
for them to win automatically, I do that.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Would you pay five grand to reverse the Luca trade?
Speaker 11 (39:48):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Here, we go, Here we go. Dan, No, I'm team
I'm team Cooper Flag. So oh, Ryan Smith.
Speaker 9 (39:57):
Not only would I pay more, ah, but I it
would say to I would pay even more if I
knew for a fact that a certain fan base would never.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Win ever again, who's that bend base? Ryan?
Speaker 9 (40:09):
Anything from Boston.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Bruins, Celtics, Red Sox and sorry Patriots, it's not gonna happen.
Seventy two hundred from Ryan Smith. Dan, that was personal too, Yeah,
it was. I'm telling you. Seventy two hundred for the
eighty six Red Sox I think at the time would
be chump change. This is the point of it as well.
Your money that you spend will have the domino effect
(40:39):
of everybody else, because that's what this Jeff Passon article
was about. If the Brewers win, you have baseball in
twenty twenty seven. If the Dodgers win, you probably don't.
And I may be simplifying it, I encourage you to
read it. It's an interesting look at baseball's economics, and
we're simplifying it and doing it maybe just a little
(41:00):
off center way. Because Ryan Berschinger will argue on why
a salary cap would ruin baseball and be like awful
for the teams that actually do want to try to
save money. But that's for a different day and a
different story. It's just the point here of if the
Dodgers win, that means they could be taking a season
away of baseball. So how much out of your pocket
(41:22):
would you pay? Trip is in Las Vegas. If you're
in Vegas, you're willing to spend trip. Welcome to Camino
and Rich.
Speaker 11 (41:30):
Hey, good afternoon.
Speaker 5 (41:31):
So I went to the University of South Carolina, I
would pay. I'd fly back to Columbia. I pay twenty
five hundred for them to play in the football National
Championship Game. I would easily pay five.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Thousand, seventy five hundred. He wants the birth and then
he'd tack on another five grand. Seventy five hundred is
the price right now? Realistically that you could pay that
you would pay. I don't want so many coming out.
Pay three hundred thousand dollars. You don't have three hundred
thousand dollars. But we're getting realistic number, listic numbers. Yeah,
(42:03):
I as a sports fan, did not have luck as
a child. Seahawks were never really good. Ye Ohio State
would lose to Michigan in every year and have their
hopes stashed. The Bucks were whatever and so like those
were the teams. I cheer for the Brewers, but it
wasn't the die hard as I was of the other teams. Well,
(42:26):
Ohio States won a couple of national championships and are
just off of a national championship. The Seahawks finally broke
through and won Super Bowl forty eight. How much would
I pay to reverse Super Bowl forty nine? I'm not sure,
but maybe running the ball or at least not having
an interception would be a different point. And the Bucks
the team that I never thought would actually win because
(42:46):
of how the NBA was for so long, and now
it's different. They won a title in twenty twenty one.
So I don't know how much I'd be willing to spend.
If I knew Ohio State would beat Michigan on November
twenty ninth, I'd pay five grand right now. I don't
think I would top like seventy five hundred. All right,
I got a kid in school. Granted it's tk, but
(43:08):
still it sounds good that yeah, five grand. If they
were so, you would pay five grand. Okay, there we go. Yeah, yeah,
I think to that level. Todd's in Alaska. Todd, welcome
to Covino and Rich. Hey, guys are good team. And
how much do you want to spend?
Speaker 11 (43:23):
Well, I told the guy on the line, twenty grand.
But the reason the reason I would spend so much
is because if I knew they were going to win,
I would double down.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
All right, so so ten but to a double down.
I just actually thought things were so expensive in Alaska
that Todd's just price range was way off. I thought
he was paying for life. What team, Todds? What team
were we talking about?
Speaker 11 (43:48):
Well, unfortunately, I'm a Cowboys fan.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Think of all of the joy that you would give
to Cowboys Nation for for just a mere twenty thousand.
Jerry Jones would kiss you on the lips like it
would be amazing if you you don't want that title? Okay? Cool? Yeah,
all right, I mean Jerry Jones should take care of
(44:12):
Todd for the rest of his life.
Speaker 4 (44:13):
Todd was like, yeah, let me let me pull my
twenty backsight.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
Scott's in Florida. Scott team and how much you'd pay
to win a title?
Speaker 11 (44:22):
Yeah, so I'm a Browns fan, Come on.
Speaker 12 (44:27):
Scott, And actually well, so it's it's not monetary, but
I would definitely give a kidney because you got two
of those and you only need one, all right, So
and you know Nick Mangolds looking for one, and I
don't know how a fan too. So if I could
save Nick Mangold and get the Browns and win a
Super Bowl, I'm giving a kidney, that is.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
And that's a serious matter. Type. Aw if you can
be a match, try to be a match. But my
former teammate, yeah, yeah, yeah, awful news that we heard yesterday,
But it would be uh. I think that there are
some Browns fans that would go to those lengths to
be able to see it championship. I mean, they haven't
even been in the Super Bowl to go to a
super Bowl. That's the thing about the Bills as well.
(45:07):
The Bills went to four straight, so even if they
make it to Super Bowl sixty, you still have to
win it otherwise the narrative goes on. Like for the
Browns and Lions, it's just getting there. That's the battle. Man,
he said he would give a kidney. I mean that's
you know, I know, well it's you know this case
(45:29):
of the Mariners and Brewers and the guys talked a
little bit about it yesterday. The Seattle Pilots played one
season in Major League Baseball in nineteen sixty nine, and
then they moved to Milwaukee became the Brewers, and then
the Mariners ended up coming up later on. But the
Mariners have never been to the World Series. The Brewers
at least have in nineteen eighty two. So the Brewers
getting back to the World Series, while it's been a
(45:49):
long long time, it is a little bit different than
never have been to the World Series. So there are
levels to it. So just the Mariners getting to the
World Series, if they were to win these next two games,
that's You're even if they were to lose to the
Dodgers or if Milwaukee somehow made a comeback, you're still
like wearing your World Series hat. It's like going to
(46:09):
a Final four for the first time. Yeah, right, like
to be able to make it to that level even
if you didn't win it all, Like Purdue had their
draft of forty plus years of not making it to
a Final four, and so then they ultimately get back there,
and yeah, you're rocking that Final four head all the time. Oh,
you're definitely getting thats wag bag and wearing it all
for sure. All right, we're gonna ended up in the
(46:31):
land of ten thousand likes. Mike is in Minnesota. I
think I know the team. I think I know the team,
but I'm not yet. What do you got, Mike oh Man?
Speaker 5 (46:42):
And I would love to see the Vikings win a
Super Bowl. I watched them lose four. I think i'd
I think i'd run close to twenty.
Speaker 6 (46:51):
G's there it is.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
Twenty thousand. How old are you, Mike? I'm sixty three
years old.
Speaker 4 (46:58):
Man.
Speaker 5 (47:00):
I've watched him since day one, and I've been disappointed
sixty three times.
Speaker 4 (47:04):
Mike, Mike do sixty something years old? You want to
see your team win, You're gonna put twenty down. I'll
match it with you.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
You forty grand for the Vikings to win, to win it, yeah,
I would have matched it with them. Fuck yeah.
Speaker 5 (47:16):
And I want to watch it from Minnesota when they
win they win the Super Bowl, I want to be
here to watch everybody crap their pants.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Yeah. Well said, well said by Mike. We should put
that quote up on the wall of our Fox Sports
radio studios. I want to be here to watch everybody
crap their pants. Sign Mike and Minnesota. Perfect way to
end it.
Hey, thanks for listening to the best of Cavino and
Rich podcast. Be sure to catch us live every day
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
You made it to the middle of the week. Congratulations.
That's not a great thing for the Milwaukee Brewers. There's
a better chance of the Brewers getting a hit than
us starting with the NLCS today, I'm telling you, yeah,
it's been a rough two days for Brewer fans Dodger
fans here in southern California where we are based, already
making World Series plans. This thing is over. We'll talk
(00:43):
some NLCS coming up a little bit later. There is
no Coveno in Rich today because the guys were in
for Dan Patrick earlier today up around the time carry
always gets up bright and early. Actually it's not even
bright when you get up, is it. It is not
bright at all. It's very dim. It's very dimn He
is an early riser. Me not so much welcome. We
are in four cn R today. There's no Danny g
(01:03):
But there is a Ryan b Ryan Bershinger is our
executive producer today. Hye, Ryan Smith our technical producer. What's
going on, Ryan DiAngelo? Rest in power? Yes, yeah, all right,
absolutely absolutely, And Isaac Low and cron Is at the
news desk is gonna be with us giving us all
the great updates of the day.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Hello, Isaac, salutation, Sorry about your Brewer's dad.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
It's not over yet yet. We'll see, I'll tell you.
I just I'll say one thing about there is there's
when you're trying to enjoy a baseball game and you
only can enjoy about eight minutes of it because it's
just like, go, the first pitch of the game, gone right,
everything great, Here we go turning it around, taking that
(01:51):
momentum carry from the end of game one when you
almost made the comeback. First batter of the game are
often running this is a new Brewers team and yeah
that that's it basically for the rest of the game.
It was a tough one. Last night. Last night was
tougher to watch actually then Game one because you still
(02:14):
actually thought that you had a chance in Game one
because the Dodgers weren't doing anything. And then last night
at the Dodgers adding on Paz with the double, ta
Oscar Hernandez the home run, and then it was just
downhill from there. It was a rough night if you're
a Brewers fan. Dodgers fans absolutely loving up. But they're
up to Oh, we got a bigger question when it
comes to the Dodgers and Brewers, and just a little bit,
(02:35):
how are you doing without your Yankees playing right now?
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Why did you have to bring that up? That's I mean,
you could have wallowed in your own self there for
a bit. Misery loves companies. I see that you just
kind of cazively tossed that to the side. But the
Yankees will be back, you know, they're they're never gone
too far from the from the radar. And you know,
a couple of key signings here and there, I mean
one or two, and get Garrett Cole back next year,
(03:00):
we'll be back in the mix. But we got to
worry about the Brewers right now. You guys are having
to deal with obviously the most well constructed baseball team
on the planet, and we'll get into that later.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
But they're just really good when they're on. And yeah,
the Dodgers are inevitable is what I've heard for the
last week, and I kind of just tossed it aside,
And now you're starting to wonder, Okay, maybe that's the case.
Brewers haven't hit. It's it's their own fault. But a
credit to Blake Snell and Yoshinobu Yamamoto, who've had a
(03:30):
great performances. Yamamoto with the complete game last night.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
I mean, Shohey hasn't hit either, So I mean they're
just so deep. But doesn't you know, I mean like
it doesn't matter for them personally. Your team won. I
mean the Dodgers won last night, but I.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Mean it was was was Game two a more enjoyable
watch for you? Or Game one is a Dodgers fan?
Game two was? I was Game one?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I felt like I needed a cigarette, yeah, to the
end of Game one, so but not in a good way,
in a in a like my heart was pounding and
I actually needed to sit down and relax for ten.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Minutely, And they're a healthier ways instead of having the cigarettes,
that's right, dip your faces and mice.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
So something called that's true. Yeah, I don't know what
you guys. I thought it was kind of bs. The
birds didn't pull any eight six two double plays last night,
Like you're like, what a joke? You know, like, what
are you doing? What are you doing? But uh, we'll
get to more baseball later on and really a bigger,
bigger outlook for what could be the outlook of the
NLCS and the possible World Series. The reason I bring
up your Yankees, Oh here we're going get it. No, No,
(04:27):
I'm not. I'm transitioning, okay, because there's a team in
New York that you're starting to fall in love with. Yes,
and you've already fell in love with the Yankees and
they've broken your heart. But this is this is so
the NFL as we enter week seven right now, Carrier Oats,
the team you're starting to fall in love with is.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
The New York Giants. I'm starting to fall in love with.
You know what they can be now we know they're
still a little bit away it scenes, but when you
bring in a player like Jackson Dart and you're bringing
a player like Cam Scattaboo, and these guys aren't afraid
of anything, doesn't even matter if they win right now,
(05:13):
Like for me, it's they're building something special and they
have a core group of guys now, and then you
think about bringing Malik Neighbors back if he gets back healthy,
and then you have weapons, you have something to hang
your hat on moving forward. And then you talk about
we've talked about day ball before, right, and so we
pretty much had him out the door this year, and
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there really wasn't any saving grace with anything that was happening.
They were starting Russell Wilson. I'm like, that doesn't make
any sense, So like, what are you doing? Then you
bring in the guy that has all the confidence in
the world but also has the game to back it up,
and it lights a fire underneath this teammates. You can
see his teammates fighting with them, He's conversing with them
and having these raw, raw moments as teammates. And so
(05:56):
when you see that energy come into the building, it
might Y'll say Brian Dave baul job. And also when
you look at the NFL and you look at their schedule,
because I just looked at it because I was like, Okay,
I am high on them. But then I looked at
the schedule and the schedule looks tough on paper. But
then the Eagles are struggling. So like the Denver Broncos,
are okay, Like you know, it's not like it's crazy
(06:17):
to see them kind of win some games here.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
The Broncos are their opponent in Week seven. But I
think just as a whole, when you look at the
NFC East, the NFC East isn't what it was when
we were starting. Yes, a little more than a month
ago in Week one, so a month and a half ago,
we're looking at at how the NFL is shaping out
or saying, man, you're the if you're the Cowboys, who again,
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we're gonna be without Micaeh Parsons. We knew they were
going to be gonna be holes there. But the Giants
we also did not think a lot of and you
thought Commanders and Eagles. I wasn't as high on the Commanders,
but I would say generally most people are that's four
losses right away, Like the Eagles are going to beat
the Giants both times, and the Commanders is going to
beat the Giants both times? Right? What the head? And
(07:01):
and well that can't happen anymore because the Giants have
already beaten the Eagles did so last week. But now
even look at the standings, and while the Giants are
in last place, right now, you still have Philadelphia sitting
there at four and two. You've got Washington middle of
the pack at three and three, and you have the
Cowboys with their tie with the Packers. But there's still
a two win team. So I don't know if it's
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and I know you're not saying it's this year, no,
but it's more of a competitive division. Even with the
Giants team that lost on the road to New Orleans,
I mean New Orleans gave the Patriots some fits this
this past weekend. There is more there and more of
a possibility for the Giants to make headway in the
NFC East even this season.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
And you always high on the Giants D line and
their pass us next to Lawrence Brian Burns something right,
and so now like they have something to play a
little bit harder for.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Right. When you have a guy that you believe in,
it really elevates the room. Right.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
And so now defensively, we're not just out there playing
to make sacks and make our money. Now it's like
I believe in the product that we put on the field.
And that's a different story. Now you can feel that.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Interergew you said something earlier and our executive producer Ryan
Berschinger has printed out these great numbers that we were
talking about pre show. Are you ready for this? What's
on July eighth? Odds to have Brian Dabole be fired
the first head coach fired in the National Football League
(08:27):
were four to one. Yeah, shortest odds of anyone. Ye.
Mike McDaniel was second. This is July eighth, five to one.
Shane Steiken of the Colts was third, six to one.
This is July eighth, right. The guy who got fired
this week Brian Callahan ten to one. In fact, there
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were seven coaches that were ahead of Brian Callahan on
July eighth of most likely to lose their job first
in the NFL. Moving along to September twenty fifth, all right,
let me say the first one. Dan, Okay, let's say it.
Mike McDaniel's got to be number one.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
He was.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
In fact, he was minus one fifty. That's how bad
it was the Dolphins. He was minus one fifty. Brian
Callahan was plus one fifty. Brian Dable third, so he
had dropped the third at plus three hundred. September twenty
fifth was between weeks three and four of the season,
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So you end up making the change to Jackson Dart
at that point, and the odds the odds now as
of October eighth, this was a week ago today. Brian
Callahan was then minus money one thirty, Mike McDaniels plus
one fifteen, Brian Dables plus three hundred. I don't have
(09:50):
the updated odds for today, but Brian Dable was Numero
uno first coach to be out the door. Brian Callahan
was eighth on that list. We are six weeks into
the season and now Callahan is out of a job
and day Ball by attaching himself to Jackson Dart yep
and attaching himself to Cam Skataboo, which is a trend
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that I think coaches in the NFL, if they haven't
caught on to, need to catch on to, may have
saved his job in New York, which, by the way,
when Sakwon Barkley was running all over the NFL last season,
it seemed like a far fetched idea. Now to have
day Ball and even Joe Shane their gms stick around. Yeah,
I think it may have saved their jobs in New York,
(10:34):
and I don't.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
And there were reports that a lot of people in
the organization wanted Jackson Dart to start day one, and
I think that's the other part of it, right, So.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
There's this you know, as.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
A head coach, you want to have stability at that
quarterback position, and you want to have somebody that can
at least execute what you want to get done. And
I'm sure that may have been some of the thinking
with Russell Wilson been history right, and have been played
a lot of games in the NFL, So that's fine.
But when you got Zackson Dart and a lot of
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us talked about it, like the energy surrounding him going
in a lot of people didn't know what he was
going to be, but I was very huge on him,
seeing him at old miss being able to make all
the throwers, but also just the energy I was talking about.
In the NFL, it gets mundane. Those guys are professionals,
they've done it a long time, right, So when you
get new energy in there that can actually get the
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job done, it's it's such a different it's such a difference.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Makeup. Do you want to know the real reason why
I think this story is relevant today? Why is that
it's not because the Giants are coming off of a
week's Week six win against the Philadelphia Eagles. It is
because Brian Callahan got fired this week and James Franklin
got fired on Sunday, and so you look at college
football and it's the what have you done for me lately?
(11:56):
And listen, James Franklin's situation in Penn State is one
that we've all always talked about. I just don't think
you fire the guy mid season when two and a
half weeks ago you were on a quest to win
a national championship and maybe run the table and go
undefeated with everybody coming back. I understand Drew Aller's injury
makes things different. The three straight losses, how poorly they
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looked against UCLA, I get all of that stuff. I
don't think he should have been fired, But Mike McDaniel,
according to these odds, should have been fired in Week three.
He has not been as if yet for whatever reason,
the Dolphins are sitting there at one and five. The
Titans got to the point, and I said this yesterday
on the network that I think that they fired Brian
Callahan because they didn't want Mike Rabel and the Patriots
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to come in and run all over them and have
Brian Callahan be the guy that replaced Mike rabel O
would make him look even worse. There are a lot
of reasons on why these moves are made, and in fact,
the Giants move to Jackson Dark didn't even make sense
at the time. And the reason I say that is
because if you're starting Russell Wilson at the beginning of
the season, you're saying, we want to go with the veteran, Well,
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you're ready to move off the veteran three games in.
Apparently they were, and it has worked for them to
this point. However, Carrie, they signed another veteran that we know,
Jameis Winston is on that team, and so if Russell
Wilson wasn't working, I thought they were gonna go to
Jameis Winston. I thought he was going to be because
Jackson Dart was the late first round pick that they
wanted to maybe wait some more time and when the
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season was lost or was really getting out of hand,
then they could put Dart in. But that's not what
happened at all. And maybe Brian Dabele is playing chess
and I'm playing checkers here, but by starting Russell Wilson,
he has one great game against the Cowboys, but still
throws a bad interception and then is embarrassed on Sunday
Night Football in a game against the Chiefs where we
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see the errors of Russell Wilson that made Brian Dable
look like a genius, because now Jackson Dart enters the
game with a cape and Cam Scattabu has been his
own sort of bit of sensation. But if you don't
have Russell Wilson having poor performances in the first couple
of games of the year for the Giants, you don't
get as big of a boom for Jackson Dart if
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you start the week one.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
I actually agree with that, but I also look at
the the approach of what if as well? Right, So,
even if that's the case, Dan, and that could be true,
and I love to take but what about the games
you left out there? Like this can be a different story, right,
Like if Jackson is playing Day one the way he's
playing right now, do they win a one or two
of those games and the different.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Person they Yeah, do they know what I mean? Do
they beat the Cowboys in that that shootout game? Do
they fare better against Kansas City? Again, a Jackson Dart
team did loose to New Orleans or the Saints. But
it was also a game where the Giants were driving
there was a cam scataboo fumble that they pick up
and run all the way back. So we're talking about
you know, we're talking about a play here and a
(14:50):
play there. And you played eight years in the league,
you were an All Pro. You know how one play
can make the difference in anything. But it's just interesting
on how the tenor the feeling around the New York Giants.
And I'm sitting next to a guy who spent half
of his career with the Jets right now, and they're
a miserable, winless team despite the new energy that's going
to be tried to be infused in the in the organization,
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it's just been a tough goal for them. And you hear
the Giants realistically probably haven't done that much better, but
still it seems like it's a world of difference. And
you're right, I actually think that when you look at
their future, if you have this combo with a healthy
Molik neighbors. Next year, you drafted ab Dual Carter out
of Penn State with your first round pick, So if
you have to make moves with other guys. Your defensive
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line and your your pressure, and your quarterback is still there.
I never would have thought that I'd be saying this,
but I think Brian Dable and Joe Shane of a
future with the Giants. It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
You get a quarterback and you actually you actually cash
in on that, on that number one pick for a quarterback,
and you make it work.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Man.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
It changes the whole whole thing. It saved John Harbaugh's
job in Baltimore years back with Lamar Jackson. Yes, when
you had to move off of Joe Flacco, and I
think that was even more difficult because of Joe Flacco
and what he meant with the Ravens organization and winning
a Super Bowl. But you had to do what you
had to do. Now, John Harbaugh's coming under fire now
for how the season has started for the Ravens. They'll
(16:13):
get Lamar back after they buy in Week seven. But
it is a recipe that I do believe in. If
the Chicago Bears would have had success last season, yeah,
obviously Matt eber Flus would still have been the head coach.
They wouldn't have had to fire the offensive coordinator and
then fire the head coach and tear it all down
with Caleb Williams. But it didn't work out maybe for
(16:35):
their own doings. But if you can get success from
your rookie quarterback and not show dysfunction and show a
new energy again, they're two and four, but it feels
like they're three and three. Like it, honestly does, it
can really change things around. He's carry Roads. I'm Dan
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Speaker 7 (18:08):
Waiting on one of those big Max Mounthson swings another
three to two pitch on the way months. He hits
one in the air, center field, free lick. He is
ethel wall.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
This ball is out of hair. There's that big swing.
What you can find one of the Brewers three hits
to play instead, guys, that's what we gotta go with Dodgers,
get that five to one win over the Brewers in
the NLCS up two to oh in the best of
seven series. Tonight it's Game three of the ALCS Mariners
home in Seattle to the Blue Jays. The m's up
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two o in that series. You'll see tonight's game on
Fox Sports one.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
By the way, you know what's crazy, Dan, Why couldn't
Lad Junior be hitting away? He's hitting right now in
this series right he's hitting zero percent right now. In
the Yankees series, he's beat in one thousand.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
That was crazy. The Brewers are hitting zero I think
in this NLCS le, truly, it's been it's been a
rough go scene shifts for the NLCS. Yes to La
tomorrow where it's chili here. It's been rainy, it rained
yesterday and now a little cool day, but starting to
warm up over the next couple of days. I don't
know if it's going to warm up in Miami. From
(19:15):
the chill of Tua tongue of I Looa and his
words that he had on Sunday about his team, attacking
the leadership of the team and players not showing up
for player only meetings, saying some were late some didn't
show up at all. I thought it was an attack
on Mike McDaniel as well, because anytime you bring in leadership,
I think it's to attacking himself if he's the quarterback.
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Tua talked about his comments that he made on Sunday
earlier today.
Speaker 10 (19:42):
As a leader of this team of the Miami Dolphins.
You know the comments that had been said. I would say,
I've made a mistake, and I'm owning up to that
right now. You know, I've talked to guys on a
team about it, talk to the leaders about it, and
they know my heart. They know that the intent was right.
But you know, the intent can be right. But when
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things get misconstrued or however the media wants to portray it,
you know that that leaves a void of silence and
a lot of questions for the guys on our team.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
There's nothing misconstrued. I mean, he said what he said,
He meant what he said. Now, this recanting of what
he tried, well, trying to recant what he said here
is just coming from the front office, right that's coming
from the Miami Dolphins and telling them to temper it
down and try to cool that situation down and you know,
at the end of the day, he's lost his team.
(20:38):
This team doesn't believe in Tua. I mean, you can
look at him when he go out and play like
he doesn't elevate them. There's a disconnect. And like I've
told you before, Dan about to I really feel like,
and this is me like at the player carrier, Like
I really worry about him and his and his mental
health and the stuff from the concussion stuff. It's a
(21:00):
big thing for me when I see him. He doesn't
look like he has that spark in his eye that
he had once he first came in. And there's a
lot that goes to playing a quarterback position outside of
playing the game well, and he's just not managing that
well at all.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
There's a different view of when you watch him play now.
Every single time you cringe when he's about to get
hit or could take a hit. Yes, because of what
we've seen on multiple occasions in the National Football League.
Not to make any joke about of that stuff or not,
but I kind of cringe when I hear the apology
(21:37):
because guess how many players and I guess how many
players don't guess because I'm going to tell you the
answer guess how many players have more experience than to
a tongue of Ailoa does on the Dolphins roster. You do.
Harry will only text me when his picks are right.
He is radio silence when they're wrong. You picked the
Lions on Sunday night. I didn't hear a peep from him.
(22:00):
Oh damn. But look they had all six dbs myth
not didn't have to. Yeah, they needed two graphics at
separate screens for NBC to put that up. Okay, all right,
take a guess that have more experience in the NFL.
How many players on the Dolphins rosters have more experienced
than Tua does, more years in the NFL than he does.
(22:23):
I'd say one. Darren Waller Okay, he's one of them. Yeah,
there's five, okay, but Darren Waller has one and Darren
Waller's been a Dolphin for two months?
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Right?
Speaker 7 (22:33):
Right?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Yeah? Who are the other leaders he's talking about? Who
are the other leaders that he had to talk with
and clarify if you're not that leader? Yeah, that's like,
this is his team. A quarterback who wears the C
patch on his jersey is a captain, a leader of
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this team. If you believe what you said. If you
believe even the words that you're saying, you don't need
to apologize, right, And I think that's part of the
problem with the Dolphins is who is calling out the leaders? Dude,
you're one of them. If not, you're one A the
quarterback of the team. With only five other players with
more years alec Ingolds, I know been in Miami for
(23:17):
a while. Here's not a lifelong Dolphin. He played for
the Raiders for a little bit. Cedric Wilson has been
in different spots throughout the league. He has more years
than two A. But they're only five players on the
roster that have actually been in the NFL longer. He's
been in Miami longer than pretty much anybody on the team.
And you're the quarterback of the team. That's my problem
with it is so now you're going back on it.
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You said what you said, and you're one in five.
Who cares if they don't believe you? Right?
Speaker 4 (23:48):
And Dan, that's the thing right there, right like we
just said, and I said, they don't follow him. We've
talked about the player players only meetings, don't go to
player only meetings, that they don't respect the person that's
holding the meeting. So I'm sure the fact that he
said that, I'm eighty percent sure that he's the one
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that called the meeting and some people were late or
didn't show up. Sure, And so yes, he was angry
about it and wanted to speak about it after. And
then so then whose fault is that for not showing up?
If they don't respect to as a leader, is that
to his fault? I don't think it is okay because
he's the quarterback of the team. I'm sorry, there's more
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weight to that position. Any quarterback of the team that
isn't a rookie on that squad that is starting is
a leader on that team by default the dan by default. Yes,
we had Brett fav come in for one year and
no eight is he a captain? No, but he got
the C on his chest because he's the quarterback. And sure,
there's layers to what you're saying there that I thought
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that stood for creepy. That's what I'm hitting here. You
go ahead, But I didn't say that Brett. But no,
what I'm saying is like, is he the captain?
Speaker 11 (25:06):
No?
Speaker 4 (25:06):
We look up to him and we thought he was
a great player. Obviously, that comes with the territory. He's
Brett Farv. He had his own locker room. He was
in the locker room with the coaches, not with us.
He's not He's not a leader. And so just because
Tua has the Captain the Sea on his chest doesn't
mean people respect that.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
But his situation is different than Fares of course, like Fares, yeah,
Fars got all the years in the National football but
he hasn't been in the Jets locker room. Two has
been in the Dolphins locker room since day one, too,
has been wrong to the Dolphins locker room. Two has
been knocked out of games, like it hasn't been an
easy ride, Like there's enough, there's enough trial and tribulations
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where it's not like Tua just came in and was like,
all right, you're the leader because you were a first
round draft pick, Like he's gone through enough to be
that guy for sure. I I commended I commended him
for speaking his mind out, for speaking his mind on Sunday.
I didn't think the verbiage in the words that he
used were correct because I felt leadership ended up reflecting
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on Mike McDaniel, and it ended up reflecting poorly on him.
So if guys are late for meetings, I don't care
if you like to her or not. You're a professional
and it's up to them to show up. And if
the Dolphins have a problem with it, then deal with
the other players. Guess what's going to be the toughest
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one to get rid of of everybody else of course,
So like today of him coming in and then making
a public apology, kneeling to the to the gripes of
the other players who don't have any near the equity
in that organization that he does, just blows my mind.
I get that, I understand that anyway, I just I
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was I was curious when I heard at the podium
today because quarterbacks will speak on Wednesday, and how things change.
Awful sign they're going into Cleveland this week. I think
they're gonna get beat by the Browns if he's coming
back and having to apologize because there are some four
and five year veterans who were late for meetings and
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now he's got to cover up for them as well.
I mean, it's bad enough he had to cover up
for Tyreek Hill's Shenanikins, but you're like, well, Tyre kills
Tyree Hill he's a game changer. Maybe I got to
figure out a way to do it. I don't know
anybody else on the Dolphins worth covering up for, right, Yeah,
Devon Eitchen. Maybe maybe, but still doesn't make a lot
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of sense to me.
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Speaker 2 (27:43):
Ah welcome, thank you, thank you very much.
Speaker 11 (27:46):
Jay.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
It is Wednesday. There is no midweek major today. However, however,
in its place, because Cavino and Rich were in for
Dan Patrick earlier today and the whole crew was hanging
out this morning, we will have our own game called
the Russell Westbrook Game. Comes up in twenty five minutes,
comes up in twenty five minutes. There's no ball hogging,
(28:09):
no ballhogging in this. We'll have our Russell Westbrook game
coming up in about twenty five minutes. No bat shot selection,
none of that, no bricks being laid at all. But
we're just gonna have some fun on a Wednesday. He
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the news desk. Everybody welcome in on this conversation because
I'm telling you last night was tough as a Brewers fan.
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And the Dodgers are now two wins away from advancing
to the World Series, and Dodger fans are counting it down,
saying six more wins to back to back World championships.
I hate Carrie when a baseball topic is being talked
about and the only line is is this good for baseball?
(29:15):
I can't stand it. Is this good for college football?
Is this good for hockey? Is this good for the NBA?
Is this good? It bothers me so much because I
don't think that we talk sports like that when we
talk about ratings. This market, yeah, no, duh, LA would
be a better market than Milwaukee. I don't think anybody
(29:36):
at home is like, I'm not watching this game because
ninety two percent of the country isn't watching it either,
Like nobody talks like that. We don't. We sure we
look at ratings, we look at numbers, but nobody really
talks sports like that. But this is something that I
think that we can all get behind and just if
you'll give me a minute. Jeff Passing the ESPN wrote
(29:56):
an article this week on why the Brewers died series
was important for the future of baseball, and his point,
Carrie was this that if the Dodgers win the NLCS
and then ultimately go on to win the World Series,
you will likely see a workstoppage in twenty twenty seven
because of owners in baseball wanting a salary cap that
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they are pointing to the Dodgers and they're extreme spending,
not more extreme than the Mets this year, but they're
extreme spending being bad for baseball. Where you have a
team that is so dominant that nobody else can compete,
that would be the argument, the general argument where if
the Brewers would win this series and go on to
(30:40):
the World Series, it shows you on how a team
that is bottom third in payroll in the major leagues
this year twenty third to be exact, can put a
team together and still compete and win a World Series.
That makes sense, right. So the question is, and I'm
looking at you Dodger fans, and I'm looking at you
(31:02):
Ryan Berschinger, do you really want to win a World
Series at the cost of the twenty twenty seven season
not being played? Is that what you are willing to
do to your baseball fans just so you could win
another title? Yes, you would give up an entire season
in the future. So when you're sitting there in June
and July and there's no trips to Dodger Stadium, you
(31:25):
would say, Man, twenty twenty five was great.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
I can just watch replays of the twenty twenty five places.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Way be fine, all right, Way to take one for
the team or not, that's totally fine. I just ron,
Are you a Dodger fan, I know you're a Raiders fan.
Speaker 9 (31:41):
Yes, I am.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Okay, So would you give up the twenty twenty seven
season as well?
Speaker 9 (31:45):
Yes, because all that means is a longer title reign. Yes,
absolutely Well.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
You'd have to win it next year, which you probably
would as well, and then you'd have a three No,
not so fast, Dan, Oh yeah, thank you.
Speaker 6 (31:55):
Sorry.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
The Yankees are gonna win it all. Finally, the guys
the team that's what third with they third in the
if the salary rankings, it would have been one if
we got one total. That's why we lost. But you're
ruining it for the other twenty nine teams by not
having baseball. If the Dodgers were what That's kind of
(32:18):
the premise of Jeff Passons article, which was very interesting.
Now I want to ask just a general question, and
I want to hear from you as well. Eight seven
seven nine nine six six three six nine. That's eight
seven seven nine to nine on Fox. What would you
give up for your team to win a title? What
(32:40):
would you give up? Would you pay? All right? Would
you pay a one thousand dollars if your favorite team
were to win a championship? Is that the ceiling? The thousand?
The thousand dollars? I think? I think one thousand dollars
is I think that that's a good number because it's
(33:03):
not peanuts, but it's not like fifty grand. We're like, okay,
now my life is going to be ruined by it.
But would you pay one thousand dollars if you could
automatically have the Dodgers win a championship right now? Does
that seem Do you think it seems too low? Do
you think that number is too low? I think it's
too low. What number would you think that's to make
(33:25):
it interesting for everybody involved? I would say five, but
five on it. Five thousand dollars, Yeah, just to make
it a little interesting. You got people maybe calling in,
so I want to see what Yeah, see what that
energy feels like. All right, would you pay one thousand
or five thousand dollars for your Dodgers to win a title?
Speaker 3 (33:42):
To win it this year? No, I would not know
they won it last Yes, year, I'd have to dodge defend.
I'm thinking of it too. Like, Okay, if I break
things down in terms of the amount of money I
spent on a championship, memorabilia, the train, tickets to go
to the parade, that was probably like two fifty So
I think maybe that would be my price.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
You'd be seven hundred and fifty bucks for But if
it was, if it was five grand, that's nothing.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
We gotta make it a little like like if everything
else fails, all those fails, we need to we need
to win a championship.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
It's been a long time you talk to a Red
Sox fan in nineteen eighty six, right right after the
ball goes through Buckner's legs. They're selling everything. Yeah, exactly,
all right, Isaac Lonkron, you're pretty imparcel. You're you're a broadcaster.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
It depends, and this is why I'm so glad you're
opening it up to the rest of the country. I
think the price goes up depending on the drought because
Buffalo Bills fans listening to this, Oh goodness, Cleveland Guardians
fans listening to this. Yeah, we'll just take care of
that college fund a little later. A championship lasts forever.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
All right. Then the Carrey's number of five thousand is
in play. By the way, if the Bills go to
the Super Bowl, even though the games in Santa Clara,
it is going to be full of Bills fans. Yeah,
it is going to be sixty thousand Bills fans making
(35:18):
their way across the country. It was the topic of
conversation in Atlanta for Monday Night's game on how Bill's
mafia travels. I went to the Bills game a couple
of weeks ago in Buffalo, and I grew up in
Packer country, and there are a lot of similarities between
the two, and now I think that the Bills. There's
also a bit of a younger fan base with Buffalo
(35:39):
as well, which I think is unique. And it's unique
because people like me remember the four lost Super Bowls,
but you would have more younger people who don't remember
those glory days, but they still have attached themselves to
this team. So I find it interesting. Let's go to
the phones. Dan is in Connecticut, Dan, welcome, I'm the
(36:00):
Cavino and Rich what team and how much would you
spend for them to win a title?
Speaker 5 (36:05):
Well, I'm a Giants fan, and I think a thousand
dollars is fair if you put it down preseason.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
So one thousand dollars for the New York Giants to
win a super Bowl. And they've won, they've won a couple. Yeah,
So the fact that he would pay a thousand is good.
Would you pay five grand?
Speaker 7 (36:22):
No?
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Because he just saw them exactly like thirteen years ago,
fourteen years ago win a Super Bowl. So ae thousand
is the level for a repeat Super Bowl to have
it in your lifetime. That's good, all right, that's the
start of it. Giants off the board. Dusty is in Missouri.
All right, Dusty, what team and how much are you paying?
Speaker 5 (36:44):
Any team from Missouri on Curvis? The Tigers, Chiefs, Blue,
the Cardinals are never going to happen.
Speaker 11 (36:49):
But I will show you.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
I think seven grand to go. What's the Chiefs whoop
it up on the Bengals in the AFC Title Game.
It's last time we won the ring. So if I
pay you to go watch, I'm not knowing what's going
to happen.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Ten grand. We're gonna put Dusty down for ten grand
for the Chiefanges. This is I I, as a Seahawks fan,
was fortunate enough to see the Seahawks in person beat
the Broncos in Super Bowl forty eight. There was a
part of me at halftime, especially when Percy Harvin ran
the opening kickoff back, that thought, all of these fans
traveled to New York, which, by the way, not cheap
(37:26):
like Super Bowl weeks are going to be expensive. Now
you got to figure it out in New York. Good
luck with that traveled so far to watch their team
win a Super Bowl with Peyton Manning and it was
over by halftime and the next day you're going to
be stuck in a blizzard. Now, if you're a Broncos fan,
you're probably used to it, But still I thought, what
a colossal waste of money, like, like, what do you
get from that experience? But the Dusty's point, he's paying
(37:49):
seven thousand, just doesn't even know the outcome. If he
could determine the outcome, what's a few more thousands dollars? Right? Exactly?
All right, Davidson Seattle. I don't think he's talking about
the Seahawks. Could maybe he's talking about the Mariners?
Speaker 11 (38:02):
David, Yeah, yes, how are you guys?
Speaker 2 (38:05):
What team? And how much?
Speaker 11 (38:07):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Mariners?
Speaker 12 (38:08):
Of course I was at that game in ninety five
when Edgar hit that double over extra innings, and it's
just good for the community.
Speaker 11 (38:16):
Your your Boyol East, he's dropping seven I'll take it
seventy one.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Seventy one dollars making an auction that I got. Anybody
else want to pay more than David seventy one hundred
dollars for your team to just automatically win a title
like I think like Ryan thought of it in a
good spot, just like Ryan's ban chief. Dan, Well, that's
(38:43):
he may have been cheap, but he was thinking, listen,
if I'm gonna put two hundred and fifty dollars in
locker room t shirt. And I mean back in the
day it's Sports Illustrated subscription, so you could get the
championship pack if you're like, like, so that's part of
the cost already. Yeah, but when we have Dusty said,
I'm laying seven grands down, like that is up the game.
(39:04):
By the way, he went and saw them against the
Bengals when the Chiefs had already won a couple of
years ago, right, so like like Dusty is in, like
Dusty and his Cardinals whatever to his point, but he was.
He was in on the Chiefs even though they were
just a couple of years removed from winning Super Bowl
fifty four over the forty nine Ers the first time.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
And what's so crazy about it is just how adamant
and so crystal clear they are with their thoughts on
this too, Like there's no hesitation about what they would
pay to see their team win. So to see real
fandom that way, Like for me personally, you know, I'm
a Dallas Maverick fan. If I could pay five grand
for them to win automatically, I do that.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Would you pay five grand to reverse the Luca trade?
Speaker 11 (39:48):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Here, we go, Here we go. Dan, No, I'm team
I'm team Cooper Flag. So oh, Ryan Smith.
Speaker 9 (39:57):
Not only would I pay more, ah, but I it
would say to I would pay even more if I
knew for a fact that a certain fan base would never.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Win ever again, who's that bend base? Ryan?
Speaker 9 (40:09):
Anything from Boston.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Bruins, Celtics, Red Sox and sorry Patriots, it's not gonna happen.
Seventy two hundred from Ryan Smith. Dan, that was personal too, Yeah,
it was. I'm telling you. Seventy two hundred for the
eighty six Red Sox I think at the time would
be chump change. This is the point of it as well.
Your money that you spend will have the domino effect
(40:39):
of everybody else, because that's what this Jeff Passon article
was about. If the Brewers win, you have baseball in
twenty twenty seven. If the Dodgers win, you probably don't.
And I may be simplifying it, I encourage you to
read it. It's an interesting look at baseball's economics, and
we're simplifying it and doing it maybe just a little
(41:00):
off center way. Because Ryan Berschinger will argue on why
a salary cap would ruin baseball and be like awful
for the teams that actually do want to try to
save money. But that's for a different day and a
different story. It's just the point here of if the
Dodgers win, that means they could be taking a season
away of baseball. So how much out of your pocket
(41:22):
would you pay? Trip is in Las Vegas. If you're
in Vegas, you're willing to spend trip. Welcome to Camino
and Rich.
Speaker 11 (41:30):
Hey, good afternoon.
Speaker 5 (41:31):
So I went to the University of South Carolina, I
would pay. I'd fly back to Columbia. I pay twenty
five hundred for them to play in the football National
Championship Game. I would easily pay five.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Thousand, seventy five hundred. He wants the birth and then
he'd tack on another five grand. Seventy five hundred is
the price right now? Realistically that you could pay that
you would pay. I don't want so many coming out.
Pay three hundred thousand dollars. You don't have three hundred
thousand dollars. But we're getting realistic number, listic numbers. Yeah,
(42:03):
I as a sports fan, did not have luck as
a child. Seahawks were never really good. Ye Ohio State
would lose to Michigan in every year and have their
hopes stashed. The Bucks were whatever and so like those
were the teams. I cheer for the Brewers, but it
wasn't the die hard as I was of the other teams. Well,
(42:26):
Ohio States won a couple of national championships and are
just off of a national championship. The Seahawks finally broke
through and won Super Bowl forty eight. How much would
I pay to reverse Super Bowl forty nine? I'm not sure,
but maybe running the ball or at least not having
an interception would be a different point. And the Bucks
the team that I never thought would actually win because
(42:46):
of how the NBA was for so long, and now
it's different. They won a title in twenty twenty one.
So I don't know how much I'd be willing to spend.
If I knew Ohio State would beat Michigan on November
twenty ninth, I'd pay five grand right now. I don't
think I would top like seventy five hundred. All right,
I got a kid in school. Granted it's tk, but
(43:08):
still it sounds good that yeah, five grand. If they
were so, you would pay five grand. Okay, there we go. Yeah, yeah,
I think to that level. Todd's in Alaska. Todd, welcome
to Covino and Rich. Hey, guys are good team. And
how much do you want to spend?
Speaker 11 (43:23):
Well, I told the guy on the line, twenty grand.
But the reason the reason I would spend so much
is because if I knew they were going to win,
I would double down.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
All right, so so ten but to a double down.
I just actually thought things were so expensive in Alaska
that Todd's just price range was way off. I thought
he was paying for life. What team, Todds? What team
were we talking about?
Speaker 11 (43:48):
Well, unfortunately, I'm a Cowboys fan.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Think of all of the joy that you would give
to Cowboys Nation for for just a mere twenty thousand.
Jerry Jones would kiss you on the lips like it
would be amazing if you you don't want that title? Okay? Cool? Yeah,
all right, I mean Jerry Jones should take care of
(44:12):
Todd for the rest of his life.
Speaker 4 (44:13):
Todd was like, yeah, let me let me pull my
twenty backsight.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
Scott's in Florida. Scott team and how much you'd pay
to win a title?
Speaker 11 (44:22):
Yeah, so I'm a Browns fan, Come on.
Speaker 12 (44:27):
Scott, And actually well, so it's it's not monetary, but
I would definitely give a kidney because you got two
of those and you only need one, all right, So
and you know Nick Mangolds looking for one, and I
don't know how a fan too. So if I could
save Nick Mangold and get the Browns and win a
Super Bowl, I'm giving a kidney, that is.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
And that's a serious matter. Type. Aw if you can
be a match, try to be a match. But my
former teammate, yeah, yeah, yeah, awful news that we heard yesterday,
But it would be uh. I think that there are
some Browns fans that would go to those lengths to
be able to see it championship. I mean, they haven't
even been in the Super Bowl to go to a
super Bowl. That's the thing about the Bills as well.
(45:07):
The Bills went to four straight, so even if they
make it to Super Bowl sixty, you still have to
win it otherwise the narrative goes on. Like for the
Browns and Lions, it's just getting there. That's the battle. Man,
he said he would give a kidney. I mean that's
you know, I know, well it's you know this case
(45:29):
of the Mariners and Brewers and the guys talked a
little bit about it yesterday. The Seattle Pilots played one
season in Major League Baseball in nineteen sixty nine, and
then they moved to Milwaukee became the Brewers, and then
the Mariners ended up coming up later on. But the
Mariners have never been to the World Series. The Brewers
at least have in nineteen eighty two. So the Brewers
getting back to the World Series, while it's been a
(45:49):
long long time, it is a little bit different than
never have been to the World Series. So there are
levels to it. So just the Mariners getting to the
World Series, if they were to win these next two games,
that's You're even if they were to lose to the
Dodgers or if Milwaukee somehow made a comeback, you're still
like wearing your World Series hat. It's like going to
(46:09):
a Final four for the first time. Yeah, right, like
to be able to make it to that level even
if you didn't win it all, Like Purdue had their
draft of forty plus years of not making it to
a Final four, and so then they ultimately get back there,
and yeah, you're rocking that Final four head all the time. Oh,
you're definitely getting thats wag bag and wearing it all
for sure. All right, we're gonna ended up in the
(46:31):
land of ten thousand likes. Mike is in Minnesota. I
think I know the team. I think I know the team,
but I'm not yet. What do you got, Mike oh Man?
Speaker 5 (46:42):
And I would love to see the Vikings win a
Super Bowl. I watched them lose four. I think i'd
I think i'd run close to twenty.
Speaker 6 (46:51):
G's there it is.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
Twenty thousand. How old are you, Mike? I'm sixty three
years old.
Speaker 4 (46:58):
Man.
Speaker 5 (47:00):
I've watched him since day one, and I've been disappointed
sixty three times.
Speaker 4 (47:04):
Mike, Mike do sixty something years old? You want to
see your team win, You're gonna put twenty down. I'll
match it with you.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
You forty grand for the Vikings to win, to win it, yeah,
I would have matched it with them. Fuck yeah.
Speaker 5 (47:16):
And I want to watch it from Minnesota when they
win they win the Super Bowl, I want to be
here to watch everybody crap their pants.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Yeah. Well said, well said by Mike. We should put
that quote up on the wall of our Fox Sports
radio studios. I want to be here to watch everybody
crap their pants. Sign Mike and Minnesota. Perfect way to
end it.
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