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October 22, 2025 69 mins

C&R say "the pool was good, even though the NBA had too early of a check-in!" Michael Jordan played a big role on NBC last night & the guys debate the NBA's use of nostalgia. What is the right balance? Peyton-on-Wilson-crime update & 'MIKE'S WORDS OF WISDOM' is live. The Niners may have struck gold with Mac Jones. They talk "system quarterbacks" & Purdy. Plus, 'MID WEAK MAJOR' & NFL team taking a step back! 

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
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Speaker 1 (00:23):
Hope you had a okay, see better than Oka sort
of night, A Warriors sort of night. NBA is back,
which means you got some foodsball tomorrow, you got the
World Series on Friday. NBA is here, lots going on,
so we're pumped about it. Man, it was really really
great to have and I know we downplayed it, but

(00:43):
it was great to have some NBA last night. I mean,
there was nothing else going on, so I could accept
it there. But I'm not gonna be double tug dickie.
Yesterday I said, it's much like Christmas decorations at home depot.
Actually I said that they should not be up right now.
I feel you though it's Halloween time. It feels out
of place and at a time, and too soon and

(01:05):
too early. But it was nice. Like you said, we
didn't have a whole lot to do last night. You know,
you go home. It's just a random Tuesday. I already
ate my tacos on my testing. Yeah, what am I
going to do?

Speaker 2 (01:18):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Well, NBA's here, dude. I enjoyed that Rockets game is
double overtime. That game was wild. I was thinking, here's
the defending champs. Everyone's thinking that OKAC is going to
be even better this year, and they're about to lose.
And then sure enough, SGA just hitting these shots. They
push it to double overtime and they end up winning
the game. Man, when the Rockets had every chance to

(01:40):
win that game. Know what they say, nothing like October basketball,
but it would have been wild.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
And ironic if they lost that first game.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
Also, Rich, you got to think that not everybody is
a baseball guy. Like on the show, we like all
three major sports, but not everybody loves MLB the way
we do. So right now, NBA is in with thefl
watching Danny four.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
We like hot Dog geting Joey chesnuts our friends. We
have him on every year. Don't forget him. But all right,
so I'll admit better than nothing, but I still won't
hone into the NBA until at least the World Series
is over, and I'm not going to take back what
we both said yesterday. It feels too early for NBA
and the best season ever was when it started on Christmas.

(02:24):
But both games, I'm sorry your Lakers lost, Danny g
but Luca played great. What Three had a big game.
Both games were actually really exciting, and the Golden State
Warriors looked really good hitting shot.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
You could argue they have the best starting five in
the NBA right now.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah, for the first you know night of NBA, it
was pretty much can you keep up that level of playing,
the competitiveness and you know, people playing and everyone healthy.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
We'll see how long that last.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
But much like the Christmas decorations up at Home Depot,
we too prematurely. It reminds me of a story before
Spot was our video guy and producer. We used to
have a producer, Danny J's name was Sammy Sammy Sweetheart Sammy,
not Sammy I was sam Iowa Sammy Sammy. We just

(03:14):
called him Sammy Jay. He's actually a contributor now on
the History Channel. He's one of the talking heads on
History Channel.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
I was gonna say, after I tell the story, you
might not want to expose what he does now. Sammy's
his nickname.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
So he was our producer and we were all in
our twenties, and he was a guy that was very
anxious to, let's say, get some female attention, not a
guy that was the smoothest with the ladies back then, right,
And we had some girls on our show. Kevino and
I were working with Maxim, so we would have like
the maximum hometown hotties on oh yeah, and it was

(03:47):
sort of you know, the brand in which we did
our show back then. And by the way, that's sort
of what led us into sports radio. Obviously, we've always
been fans of sports, we played sports. But if you
remember in the late nineteen hundreds early two thousands, Maxim
was a lifestyle magazine that was all around comedy, lifestyle, entertainment,

(04:08):
women in sports.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
So you're programming has always been high IQ, yeah, without
a doubt. But sports was a part of that brand
and that lifestyle. So that brought us to all these
Super Bowl broadcasts and everything. That's just a little history
on one. Yeah, Well, the history of our show is
just what you said.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Think of the Maxim brands from the old nineteen hundreds,
sports entertainment, relationships, gadgets, you know, guy stuff essentially, so
what used to be considered guy stuff. So there was
this really cute model that took a liking to our
producer Sammy, and this all ties into when something's just
too early. The girl tells our old school producer, we

(04:50):
should hang out this weekend.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
I'm really feeling you, and he was like, oh my god, dude.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
She actually throughout an indecent proposals.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
I mean, I wasn't gonna I wasn't gonna say that.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
It was sort of like she's like, if you come by,
I'll make this dreams come true.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Put it that way.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Oh yeah, so you can imagine anxious twenty something was like, dude,
I can't wait to hang with her. She goes, yeah,
let's hang out. What do you say Saturday, nine o'clock
And I was like, dude.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Pump for your weekend.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Man, look at you gonna go get some Meanwhile, we're
broadcasting out of New York City at in Manhattan and
this girl that was a guest on our show, this
hometown hot.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
He was from Philadelphia, so an.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Hour and a half, two hours drive, right, Yeah, I
asked you not, he hears, let's hang out Saturday at
nine shows up and knocks on her door the address
she gave him at nine am. Nine am in the morning.
He calls us up. He's like, I'm here, she's not

(05:54):
her answer, and what should I do?

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Like, wait, where where are you?

Speaker 1 (05:57):
He goes, Yeah, the girl, if you know, the one
that said she wanted to get with me, she said
tomorrow mine, And we're like, do you think maybe she
meant nine pm? Yeah, I mean just a little over
the ambitious. I think it's like Jim Carrey. Yes, yes,
I was just thinking of that. By the way, true
story though that's not not even.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
It doesn't sound like a real story. I'm telling what happened.
Spot back me up. True, Sorry, no, it happened. Man.
It was embarrassing and a brunch, you know, like I'm
gonna give the guy better fill it out. Maybe it
was brunch, but it was just makes you think.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Sometimes, you know, something could be too early nine am,
probably not what she was thinking. NBA in October too early,
little early, but luckily two good games and luckily nothing
else really to watch yesterday. You know what it's like
to never too good to be early. When when air
dinner reservation is always available at four, four thirty or five.

(06:53):
No one wants to eat a five go to Vegas.
They're like, all right, go call up a fancy restaurant
in Vegas.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Be like what reservation times you have, Like we could
sit in at four thirty or ten thirty. It's like, man,
if you have a little kid, you want to eat
at five.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
This sucks when you get to your destination, your vacation
destination too early and you can't check into your hotel
room yet.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
So you got that weird window leg.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah, like you just want to sleep, You just want
to use the bathroom, you.

Speaker 5 (07:19):
Know, I just want to freshen up and lash.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Up, and now you have to like walk around or
maybe you know you got to hit the pool and
make the most of it in all, but still there's
that anticipation of can I get into the room yet
or no, I'm a firm believer in that soon. Then
if hotels all went into cahoots and said, hey, we'll
have an option where it's like twenty five or fifty
bucks early check in, we so many of us would

(07:45):
be like, hey, I'll bite the bullet on that, because
the reality is, who wants to wait till four o'clock.
You're right, how many times you get somewhere if they
said for an extra fifty bucks noon, you'd.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Be like short.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
It's usually like check ins at three and you're there, like,
you know, ten am, my dinner reservations at four thirty, Right, I.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
Got to go to and you don't know what to
do with that time.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
I'll tell you what, though, the obvious tip of the
day here is to always pack a bathing suit in
your carry on so that you always have that on
your person so when you're there floating around, he at
least hit the pool and waste some time by loading around. Yeah,
that's how the NBA felt last night, like it's too soon,
way too early.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
We're not even at Halloween yet.

Speaker 6 (08:20):
Though.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yeah, you know it was a good but people have
fun in the pool.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
You're right, Danny, I do have an analogy and a thought,
an additional one because on the network and on Fox,
at ESPN, everywhere, there's a lot of chat of a
lot of chatter of last night, the NBA heavily leaning
into nostalgia. Well, can I say, first and first off
and first and first mostly is that last night was

(08:46):
the debut of Michael Jordan NBA on NBC Insight to
Excellence and Time that he hasn't picked up a basketball
in years and that he's officially done shooting around and
even playing and picking up basketball. That hit a lot
of people in the heart, like, oh my god, Michael
Jordan is done playing basketball. I mean, he's not the

(09:08):
first guy to say stuff like that. Derek Jeter says
he never picks up a bat, he never swings, but
it is Michael Jordan's so it's way different.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
And that's when I went.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
It's like the plot line of some lame like sports movie,
like I haven't touched the ball since I since I left.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
But you know what it is.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
It's and I've seen a lot of buzz about this
too on social media, and I thought the same thing.
I don't know if it's at the Mike Tyson level,
but it's almost there where Michael Jordan could say anything,
and it's intriguing. He could talk about, uh, brushing his
teeth and like, oh man, did you hear that Insight
to Excellence last night? Oh did he? He starts in

(09:46):
the upper left of his mouth and he brushes the bottom.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Oh man, I do.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Two minutes on the top, two minutes on the bottom,
and you're like, oh my god, my god, Michael Jordan
does four minutes of toothbrushing man. You know, he's one
of those guys that could say absolutely anything. He told
the long story, and if it wasn't Michael Jordan, you
would have said, what a weak ass story. But because
it's Michael Jordan, it's an amazing story. How he was

(10:12):
so nervous to take a free throw, Actually take a lesson.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Do you ever pick up a ball and just shoot?
I haven't picked up a ball in years.

Speaker 7 (10:20):
Come on, just like walk past. There's got to be
a hoop somewhere at your place. You don't see a
hoop anywhere around here. I don't. It's the last time
you picked up a basketball and shot. I was at
the Ride a Cup.

Speaker 8 (10:35):
Yeah, And I rented a house from uh from the owner.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Sure, he came over to do pictures.

Speaker 8 (10:43):
And grandkids, and I was beating greet and thank him
for allowing me to stay in the house. And and he
had a basketball court. He says, I want you to
shoot one free throw. I said, really, I already paid
for the already paid for the house.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
It's likely you got to see me. So when I.

Speaker 8 (11:01):
Stepped up to shoot your free throw, that's the most
nervous I've been in year.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Stop it in years, stop it come on.

Speaker 8 (11:09):
The reason being is those kids heard the stories from
the parents about what I did thirty years ago, right,
so the expectation is thirty years.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Prior and I haven't touched the basketball. I hope you
switched it absolutely.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
I mean, you would have told the story if you didn't.
But I'm saying anything Michael says, you're sort of like and.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
I feel like Rich tuned out halfway through that story.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
These little kids were heckling me to shoot, and I
took that personally.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Already paid for the house brown.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
I think it was thirteen thousand dollars. Yeah, four year
old Rich hates it when details are in story, well.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Detail Kinney off once. I was like, you know, I
was doing a parlay. It was a three leg or
four like get to the story. But it's Michael Jordan,
so we're intrigued. They're leaning heavily into nostalgia, and I
heard Colin saying, how you can't be leaning on the nostalgia.
I'm pretty sure Doug had the approach if he enjoyed

(12:04):
Danby he enjoyed the nostalgia angle.

Speaker 9 (12:06):
Yes, he made a post on social media that he
said like this is this is my king in Jordan,
So he didn't enjoy it.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Did you hear Allen Iverson talking about Jordan. I don't
know if there's an old clip. Actually I've heard this before,
but I saw this clip. He's wearing a he's wearing
a Yankee hat and sunglasses. He's like, look, I'm in
the NBA, played alongside guys like Jordan, played Jordan, and
he's like, I respect him and love this guy so much.
I get nervous around him. I can't even talk.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Around the guy.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
So I mean, we live in a culture rich. Our
generation is a generation that feeds and lives off of nostalgia,
lives off it. So it brings me to my big
thought of the day, which is you're breaking out round
ball rock.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Everyone loves it, right basketball.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeah, I'm gonna don't get you got round ball rock.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
You got MJ. Mike Tico's voice, which was cool.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
You got Tarico, you got listen, they're hitting on everything.
But then again, so I feel that, and then I say, well,
I remember what Tony Soprano said on the sopranos, which.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Is, remember when it is the lowest form of conversation.
Remember when is the law the lowest form of conversation.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Well, you know what I always took from that. I
respect Tony soprano. Gotta respect the sopranos. I think it's
always fun to look back. You just can't live there
too long, that is the answer. There's nothing wrong with
looking back. In fact, we always say that two things

(13:49):
can be true. The NBA could be leaning too much
on nostalgia. Nostalgia could be amazing, and it could also
be a crutch. And I feel all these things could
be true. I'm the sopranos. What Tony was saying there
is like this whole night we've been reminiscent, and that's
fun and all, but like, let's let's bring it up
to current date a little bit. Like even if you're
hanging out with your buddies, there's always a remember one conversation,

(14:10):
and that's fun. When you realize that's all you got,
that's when it's stale, and that's when you realize, like, yeah,
we got nothing more than that.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
They were interviewing the current stars of the NBA and
they asked them what's your favorite NBA on NBC moment
in the nineties, And most of them are like, I
don't have one. I was too little or I wasn't
born yet. Anthony Edwards said, I don't know Michael Jordan.
So yeah, for the for the younger generation, that's none
of that's going to hit with them.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
It's going to hit with us, but not that.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
For the younger generation, it's all new to them. What
do they know about John Tesh Probably nothing, but it's
new to them, right, So nostalgica, that.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
Party, that part of it is. But if we lean
too much in the past, that's not going to play
well for the younger audience.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
But like I said, when I feel Tony Soprano was saying,
there should be a mix of it, like let's talk
about something current, or let's bring it up to speed now,
or else we got nothing. I think the NBA does
that just by having young players in the league and
ask the perfect balance.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Like I'm not against it.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
I think it's cool because you're you're bringing somebody old
school cats back into what they enjoyed and what made
that nineties era so great. And then for anyone too
young to remember it's new to them anyway, So who cares.
What did mister Miagi teach Daniel LaRussa to wax on
wax off?

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Balance?

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Oh, Daniel Son, It's all about balance, because if you
always thought the wax off part was a little weird,
they go wax off. What if you balance nostalgia just
the right way. The example that Cavino is alluding to.
If you get drinks with an old college buddy, let's
say you break your conversations down into a pie chart
of one hundred percent. If fifty percent of your conversation's like,

(15:51):
you know, remember when John and college got drunk and
did this, aha haa. But you got to mix that
in with y'all. Tell me about your kids. You see
your kids playing football? And yo, you your daughter? How's
your wife doing?

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Tell me about your job, like you right, can't you
can't live one hundred percent? And hey remember when we
were at that frap party. You know, if you can't
vibe on what's going on now, that means like all
your friendship and all your love is based on things
that happened in the past.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
And you do notice that a lot with some old
school friends and old school relationships.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
It's like, yeah, we got nothing here now, nothing in
common now, no conversations to have now, you know, you
want to talk about uh, I don't know a new
band that's out and they still want to talk about
Pearl Jam And it's like, ah, you know, can we
talk about something now? And you realize that your friendship

(16:43):
and your relationship only lives, then it has to be
a great balance, and I think that's what the NBA
is going for. I don't think the NBA is going
for old school nostalgia. That's impossible. You got young players
on the court. It's a league that is really banking
on some young stars to step it up, So why
not throw a little dipping of nostalgia.

Speaker 9 (17:02):
I didn't see it live, guys. I thought thunder Rockets
was seven thirty am Eastern this morning, so I didn't.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
See it live. And I said live, I missed a
heck of a game last night. It was very reasonable mistake.
Oh seven thirty, Yeah, I'll eat my cereal and go
back to bed.

Speaker 9 (17:19):
I thought it was odd, you know, for to open
the season at four thirty in the morning on the
West Coast, But it's brutal. You're anxious I don't know
if you guys caught this or not, because you mentioned
Doug earlier and on Doug's show, I brought this up
to the guys and no one caught it. Did you
notice the graphic on the Jordan with the Roman numeral six?

Speaker 2 (17:39):
No? No, I mean I usually send.

Speaker 9 (17:41):
It to our group text, but this is the point
of in the past, Jordan's got six rings. They're highlighting
this graphic on this segment about six rings, and my
issue with it is number one. I think they were
bringing Jordan in to kind of try to quiet the
Barkley Shack hate of the NBA, because means.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
They talked last year about how it's counterproductive if Shaq
and Barklay just always rag on the young guys.

Speaker 9 (18:07):
Yes, yes, but when you're sitting there having Michael Jordan
there and what appears to be an hour long conversation
that's going to be spread out through the season.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
I got that vibe and I heard this thing.

Speaker 9 (18:18):
Yeah, how are you gonna how is that going to
talk about today's NBA. I think we're just gonna get
more stories about Airbnb.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
And you're right, right, maybe it's him and Tarico.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
You're right, and they they did a two hour hang
and they're gonna cut it up for six months.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
I'm pretty sure that's what it's going to be, to
be honest, Why are.

Speaker 5 (18:37):
They wearing the same stuff in every single.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Really likes light blue? But you know what a good balance.
But you'll take that, Jordan, You'll take it because it's Jordan.
But I want to just throw out a couple a
couple of notable franchises and you know, Naked Gun, Karate Kid,
Alien Doctor who they just brought back, Queer Eye again

(19:01):
a couple of years ago, Girl Meets World instead of
Boy Meets World, Saved by the Bell. We did Fuller House,
It's Halloween season twenty eight years later, Amityville Horror Halloween,
like the idea of nostalgia hits our demo Heart If
You're Low, the When We Were Young Tour, just a

(19:21):
world coming back.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
They just announced eight years later they're going to redo
Prison Break.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
Yeah, because our generation really thirsts. They're like thirst and
Howl of the Third.

Speaker 5 (19:33):
It's getting diluted, though, But there's this like social media
has this obsession or it's very popular to be like
go and live back in the nineties. That's the nostalgia
because like I guess they're saying that, like right now
is too crazy and not enjoyable.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
No, there's a reason for that, Like the nineties were oh,
Kanye is doing well.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Reason for that is and if you follow the trends
and you're up on speed to what people are talking
about on social media, those were the last years that
we had a monoculture, the last time in our life
where we all were into the same thing. We're all
watching Michael Jordan whole country and now spread all over
the place, and everyone has separate interest based on what

(20:09):
the algorithm decides for you or you decide for the algorithm.
We're trying to figure that out and how that works.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
But these.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Monoculture times that we lived in is the reason why
we like to go back, because we all have those
scene memories. Steve Cavino makes an amazing point. We've talked
about that monoculture. That's an important word to the cell
phone and social media ruined all of that. So it's
easy to go back to that time to understand rich.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
You had mono in high school too.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Yeah, I'm surprised I never did. Surprised I never did.
I made that with a lot of randos. So the
monoculture was when we all watched the same show on
Tuesday night. Everyone was watching this movie when we all
wanted to be like Mike. The last time the monoculture
existed with the rare exception of a you know, Game

(20:59):
of three, our owns is so big everyone's watching, or
this show is big. But that's a rarity, right, oh,
the Breaking Bad finale. These are more anomalies right when
we were younger. Social media lines up perfectly when you
think of when was the last time we all quoted
the same movies Wedding Crashers, Old Schools, Super Bad, Super.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Bad early two thousand. They're all mid two thousands. You
know what came out in the mid two thousands.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
MySpace, Facebook, social media, YouTube, iPhones at seven.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
So when you think about, wow, it's weird.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
We haven't really all quoted the same things since the
mid two thousand, when we got social media and smartphones.
That's why nostalgia hits so hard with everybody and resonates
the way it does is because we sort of yearned
for that because it's gone and we'll never have it again.
Because everyone lives in their own lane and they're doing
their own things, and they're watching their own thing, and

(21:52):
we don't have that iconic celebrity like Michael Jordan that
we had back then. We just don't because wherever that
is for me, Sam might not even know. I feel
bad for the younger generation that they don't get to
share in these moments because because where we all bond
in the mono culture, our kids never will. If I

(22:12):
say Saturday mornings and me, you Danny dan Bayer, I
was saying, we're all relatively the same age. Or if
I said, hey, you wake up, you have some cereal,
you watch Sunday Morning, you zip down the steps in excitement,
you slide with your socks, you're.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
You're, you're, you're eating a bowl of cereal, reading the
back of the box while you're watching cartoons.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
And then I'm like, then if I said, hey, guys,
and remember like Saved by the Bell was on, and
then wrestling and then American Gladiators.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
Smuppet Babies and all I said the cartoons.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
Yeah, but I'm saying, if I paint that picture, you're like, yep,
that was my childhood. Your kid, my kid, everyone's kid
is doing something so different from each other that when
they're in college, they're not going to be able to say, yeah,
do you remember when we were kids? I watched uh, gravity
Falls and some other kids like not never watch.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
I was more of a Yeah, I was more of
a SpongeBob kid. Like so many choices, so many streaming.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Service, overly saturated, and everyone's in their own pocket of
whatever interest they have. So if the NBA or anybody
wants to bring it back to that iconic moment, not
only is it nostalgic to us and it's resonating to us,
but it's telling a younger person like yo, the whole
world was into this right here. It's hard to convince
your buddies to invest in the same show as you.

(23:26):
So you have something to talk about. I've been telling
you guys for the last week. Chad Powers so good.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
Hey, I'm watching The Perfect Neighbor. I'm busy.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
So everyone's doing their own thing now fast, you know,
rewind fifteen years. Hey dude, you're watching True Blood. Yeah
you are, because it's on Sunday night on HBO, And
that's really what that's what you watched.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Hey, you watching The Wire whatever? It was always the show.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
That's where it sort of stopped So the question based
on all this is nostalgia. Is it good for basketball?
Is it good for NBA or not? Because there was
a lot of it yesterday, and I think that's a
pocket that we hold fondly in our hearts. And I
think that the younger generation could learn a lot from
it because they don't have it.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
They don't have it at all.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
So I think it's I'm telling you it's so based
on if the NBA plays the balance game, for every
Michael Jordan, for every round ball rock and Michael Jordan
piece and a cool graphic from the nineties, they need
to do a piece on Wemby or a cool segment
with SGA or something I saw. I mean, SGA's what

(24:32):
in his eighth year and Giannis I read is in
his thirteenth year or something ridiculous like that. These dudes
should be way bigger names in our world, but they're
not because we're just oversaturated with nonsense.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
Really quick too, you got to do it, You got
to present it properly in small doses and quick edits.
Because rich I've tried to show YouTube clips of Magic
Johnson and Michael Jordan and Larry Bird and guys like that,
to our teenagers. They tune out a couple minutes into
those YouTube clips.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
They just do well, that's insane, huh when you think
about it, But Rich nailed it. I think it's a
perfect balance. It's a perfect balance, and I think that's
gonna make some difference in the NBA. Or is it
too much nostalgia for your liking it's a young man's game.
They don't care about it, your thoughts eight seven, seven
ninety nine on Fox, we gave you ours, plus we

(25:23):
got Mike's Wednesday Words of Wisdom.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
We do it live and Midweek Major we do every midweek?

Speaker 1 (25:29):
Can I also just point out for the younger kids
that don't really know Jordan because they only know them
through highlight form and all that, could it be fair
to say that like it's you know, if you heard
your parents talk about someone that you didn't see that
you thought must have been cool. Like I don't know
much about Ali, but Ali would mean a lot because
you knew your parents thought it was awesome. So random,

(25:51):
Iomas sam is playing basketball? Who gets shouted out? Moses Malone,
doctor j and Moses Malliche. Yeah, so random? But Rich
and I once had an intern her name was Chloe,
I remember, yeah, And she's like, you know, my mom
was one of the girls in the video for this,

(26:12):
and we're like, what your mom? Eh, basketball is our
favorite sport, so random. Love the way you dribble up
and down the court, so is Covino and rich Is
Fox Sports Radio. We got spot on the video. Hey man,
look at me rocking out. I'm on the radio and
the video system of a down style Covino and Rich FSR.

(26:34):
Covino and Rich FSR. You could watch what you hear.
You got Danny g super producing at eight seven, seven
ninety nine on Fox. Sam Is on the Ones and twos,
and dB is on your updates in just a few minutes.
Stick around for Dan Byer, but get into your phone
calls about nostalgia.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
NBA is back.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
They're leaning into the nostalgia. Some people like Colin are saying, ah,
move forward. It's a different day, it's a different time.
Lots of young stars. He's saying, that's the mistake that
baseball made. Hey, hanging on to the past, and look
how great baseball is now when they're promoting their young stars.
I get all that, but I think it's a good mix.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
Yeah. The balance.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
If there you play round ball rock, you have MJ,
you have Shack and Markley, and you have the faces
that made the league. But if you do lean on
the young stars, combined with that nostalgia all it makes
me realize this whole last twenty minutes of chatting about
it makes you realize we grew up in a very
special time. And I know everyone could think that and
say that, but if you were a kid of the

(27:30):
eighties or nineties, there's a yearning for that. No one
in the eighties was like, Man, I really want all
those fifties nostalgia the sixties because it's the last time
that we all have collective memories. We all have the
same and it's available nostalgia the same look back, the
same superstars, and that our fingertips. It's the first generation

(27:52):
who's nostalgia's available and wanted. All right, let's go to
JR and Indy.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
What's up? JR?

Speaker 10 (27:58):
Hey, what's up? So listen to hear me out. First
of all, the seventies was the best era of music
and sports. Okay, we had a second, but I blamed
bron as far as not passing on the torch like Kobe,
like Mike, like Doctor J and m did. They all

(28:18):
were great ambassadors to the game. KD and Lebron have
been terrible ambassadors to the game. That's why these kids
don't respect the history and everything that basketball has balled town.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
I mean, I hear he say, but what is Lebron
supposed to do he's still playing. Is he's supposed to
just be like he's held out to play George.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
You mean he's I don't know. It's an interesting one.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
And by the way, point though, that's just a great
example though of living in your own world of like
the seventies, the seventies were not known for sports and entertainment.
The eighties were at special time where movies got to
a different level, where sports became more mainstream, the NBA
came into its own. So to say the seventies was
the best sports decade is horseshoo.

Speaker 5 (28:57):
Some argue that the seventies were the time when movies
took a turn from like sterile delivery of lines to
like really good, lately good good cinematography. Everything was in color,
you know, like there's plenty well not even late.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
I mean, yeah, well, every generation is gonna think theirs
is the best but what we could say for fact
is the late nineteen hundreds, late nineties, early two thousands
was the last time we all shared those memories. And
that's what makes it, you know, much different. So, you
know what, we still got a lot of people talking
about it. A lot of people want to talk about
the remember when and in the nostalgia of the NBA
and Michael Jordan on the debut last night, But first

(29:34):
and first and moll suit, we were not going to
make the legend.

Speaker 9 (29:36):
Wait it's Dan Byer, what you're up. I'll tell you
the way Cavino phrased it. The late nineteen hundreds.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Yeah, yeah, there used to be a lot of strong
You picture us with Abe Lincoln hearths on right.

Speaker 9 (29:51):
Absolutely. I'll get to the NFL injury updates in the second.
But Sean Payton has spoken, the Broncos head coach talking
today about the tweet that Russell Wilson sent yesterday about
the comments that Peyton made on Sunday. This is Sean
Payton earlier today.

Speaker 11 (30:07):
The euphoria, the way that game unfolded it, that was
strictly about dark that was in no way, shape or
form anything that was directed at Russ So and I
might be able to see how he might perceive that,
But coming off that win and watching how he played, yeah,
that that wasn't any intention at all.

Speaker 9 (30:29):
So okay, Sean Payton's an he could understand. Oh, Russell
Wilson would have taken that, but that's not what he meant.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
That sounds like something my mom would say. And I
know she's talking about me, and she would gaslight me
and say.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Well, if the shoe fit.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Right, you know what I'm saying, like, Yeah, whatever, Mom,
I know you're talking about me.

Speaker 9 (30:48):
Oh, so Sean Payton having his saint today.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
When a veteran can't get the job done anymore. Oh,
I wasn't talking about Russes. Sound like some mom stuff. Yeah,
it's me Rob Parker.

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Speaker 2 (31:33):
Covino and Rich. Now it's time for our tire act
play of the day, Day one of the NBA SGA.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Already coming up big to tie the Rockets in the
fourth quarter, Shay in the open court, crossing the time
on the seven shutter steps on, Tomas Thompson pulls up
fires a leading sixty for.

Speaker 13 (31:48):
Jum forgot it.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
It's het at one o four jumeas Allison or something special?

Speaker 6 (31:52):
Baby?

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Is he ever clutch? Dude? Does he ever clutch? Really?

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Thunder gets the opening night w in double overtime one
twenty five, one twenty four Over the Rockets Rocket, I'm
on a rocket. That was Curtis w w LS Thunder
Radio Network and that was our tire rack play of
the day. And speaking of of the radio stations, Rich,
I do want to shout out all the affiliates that

(32:18):
carry us. Oh yeah, what's up, affiliates, Bring us to
your city. Let's do it well, for they're hearing this
now then we're on. Oh like I said, bring us
to their city though, oh like you want to go
hang yeah, I'll.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
Do it from whatever studio.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
Let's go all right, you know, let's take some of
you some of the calls were around the land. Speaking
of nostalgia, you said rocket, I'm on a rocket, Tracy
Morgan snl because we love nostalgia and did the NBA
have a perfect balance of new and old?

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Last night? Manny, we'll stop with Mike and fresdo. What's up?

Speaker 3 (32:53):
Mike?

Speaker 6 (32:53):
What up?

Speaker 13 (32:54):
What's up?

Speaker 3 (32:55):
Guys?

Speaker 14 (32:55):
What up?

Speaker 15 (32:56):
I say? You know right now, hey man, I'm about
to turn thirty years old.

Speaker 13 (33:01):
I got my Larry birds on.

Speaker 15 (33:03):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Look at you.

Speaker 15 (33:05):
I think I'm thinking, Oh yeah, I got the modernized
Converse weapons where bird black and white, freaking Converse colors classic,
all modernized. And it got me thinking, you know, us
old heads. You know what we like about the eighties
and about these older decades were the competitiveness, right, like

(33:29):
the determination to win? Right, there's and I'm a Lakers fan, right,
but there's just something magic about seeing magic and bird
just go at it.

Speaker 8 (33:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
I don't think people are less competitive now. I don't
think that's competitive. I think it's the greediness right of
that time. But I think just visually, there was something
we forget the eighties and nineties when we talked about
a lot of people always go back to those decades.
It's the first time you said that nostalgia's available. There
was no there was no cool theme songs and fun
things that we look back at the fifties or sixties.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
It's very far.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
A few between the eighties and nineties are packed with
stuff that we could throw back to. And you have
all the videos and fun of a Larry Bird in
Magic Johnson. That's the beginning of the nostalgia. Yeah, that's
available in color and on YouTube, like you can't really
find a lot of stuff before that. By the way,
that dude's a unicorn. He's like us old heads. He's
rocking old school Larry Birds. He's in his he's in

(34:23):
his thirties.

Speaker 5 (34:24):
Yeah, you can't say you're an old city just turned thirty.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Yeah you can't.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
You can't call yourself an old head. I don't think
if you were born in the nineties. But he has
the vibe right, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
He respects it.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
You guys started the show talking about Michael Jordan and
you'd listen to anything he said. I think part of
what draws us into him on screen is he's still
fiery and super competitive now.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
It's crazy so Yeah, he's he's an old soul right there,
rocking his old school converse.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Man, Matt in so cal. What's up, Matt? What's up? Matt?

Speaker 16 (34:52):
Heo enrich natural content back by since CBS and I'm
a little late, but not the anniversary.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Guys, well text me what's up.

Speaker 16 (35:01):
Also a topic we're gonna have to revisit is calling
the Heart Foundation overrated?

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Yes, I did call the Heart Foundation overrated?

Speaker 2 (35:09):
What's up?

Speaker 7 (35:09):
Man?

Speaker 16 (35:12):
I think there's there's a there's a line, you're like.
I work in the high school college basketball visit. Then
I talked to coaches of all ages, and there some
old school coaches who just cannot get out of the past,
and in some way they're getting left behind because if
you don't adapt, especially with like social media, new wave
concept offenses, you're you're honestly you're losing players in your areas.

(35:33):
And then and then also you get you know, the
attention span part is hilarious because when I deal with
players I have, especially on the boy side, the girls
are okay boy side, I have to measure my words
and get them out as soon as possible or I
lose them and they fade off.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
So You're so right about that, dude, You ain't kidding.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
When I coach little kids, I feel like, unless I
have a multiple stations going on where every kid's active,
if you ask your kids to stand around the infield
or outfield for more than five minutes, I almost feel
like lost them.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
We live in a very get to the point culture,
and thank you for getting I appreciate Gail and Virginia.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Gail, make it snappy here, Gil.

Speaker 6 (36:09):
Hey, guys, what's up so to the guy two callers
ago with the weapons at thirty years old? I'm fifty
two and I still have my original weapons from nineteen eighty.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Then, what do you mean? What did you think last night? Man?
Did they balance the nostalgia properly? I?

Speaker 6 (36:28):
You know, honestly, I think nostalgia is the lack of
being able to be creative nowadays. There's so much on
social media and everything like that, and I just don't
think there's much creativity anymore.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
Well, see, I think there's more creativity than ever before.
And I'll explain why it gets rejected. Rich and I
could disagree on met right, Well, we got more c
in our next we'll disagree then. So we were talking
a lot about nostalgia and how the NBA leaned in hard.
Last night round Ball Rock Michael Jordan's It'll Sit Down

(37:01):
with Mike Tariko and we talked about the balance quite
a bit about how if the NBA balance is it correctly,
it's going to be fantastic. Right if they do a
little bit in nostalgia but really highlight the new stars, we'll.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Be all good. We'll be all good.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Someone hit us up right before the break and said, yeah,
I don't think people are creative anymore, and I just
think that's a BS thing.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
I think people are more creative than ever.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
You see more funny videos on the daily on TikTok,
then like a Saturday Night Live will ever supply you with.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Everyone's very creative. You see what people do.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
On social media. Everyone's funny, everyone's creative. It's a competitive
world because everyone has an outlet. I just think creativity
isn't necessarily rewarded. Because if I ask you, what do
you think the biggest grossing movies in the theater and
Netflix were over the last handful of years, and I
gave you the list of them, there's a commonality.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
Can you tell me what the commonality is? With these
movies Top Gun, Maverick not original, they're familiarity.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
But that's just Brothers that proves the other guy's point.
Spider Man Barbie, which is just a concept of a
doll that's been around forever, Happy Gilmore too, Beverly Hills
Cop four Ax Left Coming to America. That doesn't prove
the guy's point. It does because it's that work harder,
works smarter, not harder mentality of just hey, let's regurgitate

(38:23):
some stuff because we know it'll sell tickets. No, it's
people that are taking a chance. There's a major movie
companies don't want it to. It's chances on things that
are original. It's it's not a matter of lack of creativity,
it's a lack of a movie studio is going to say, well,
you have a really cool creative idea about a drama. Yeah,
that might be the dopest script of all time, but
we're gonna go with so. I mean, Beverly Hills Cop

(38:45):
and Staff's still creative, but production companies are are are not.
Don't blame in it for the money making. It seem
like people are less creative. That's I think that's ridiculous.
I think it's just that it's safety in nostalgia, which
proves multiple points.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
We've made people love it well.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
We'll wrap it up with your phone calls because there's
an in between.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
There's a balance.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
Like Rich said, remember if you're listening on the iHeartRadio app,
tell your friends about the Cafino and Rich show and
make the iHeartRadio app your number one.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Pre Set a question and we'll wrap it.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Up with Manny being Manny Neil passo, Manny, what's your question?

Speaker 2 (39:20):
From that, I'll go to Manny and then I'll then
I'll end with a little deep thought for you. What's up, Manny?
Manny faces man?

Speaker 13 (39:25):
How are we doing? How are we doing well? The
NBA back in the day was a bit more fun
than it is today now. I remember the commercials. They had,
the slogan that they had celebrities come out.

Speaker 6 (39:36):
Like the NBA.

Speaker 13 (39:37):
It's fantastic. I mean, come on. They brought John Tesh's
theme song back that was always a banger and back
in the day antil today. The only thing that one
of my nephews and I talk about a lot is,
for example, Check and Tol have this habit of downgrading
today's NBA. Instead of promoting it, trying to make make
the stars shine a little bit more. They down play.

(39:58):
Oh it's not like we used to be.

Speaker 8 (40:01):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
We brought that point up, and I'm glad you echoed
at Manny being its true to her. There's a big difference.
You know what major League Baseball does the opposite. When
I hear broadcasters a great example.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
I say, Ron Darling did a really great job of that.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Ron Darling on TBS, and he's, you know, on the
usual s n y for the Mets. Ron Darling's quick
to say, Yo, I threw ninety two and I had
two pitches. These guys are throwing one hundred and two
and they have four pitches. He's very quick to want
to give props to Yo. These guys could play, except
for Jeter. He's like, Betts can't do that jump step
as good as me. Yeah, except angry old dudes like

(40:36):
Derek Jeter. But some great points, Manny, You're not wrong
about that.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
What was my question for you?

Speaker 1 (40:43):
I don't know, but you did say you had a
question to wrap up the nostalgia? What probably about regurgitating
old ideas?

Speaker 2 (40:50):
Next question? Oh yeah, good, Thank you.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Hollywood, You very well could have an Xbox, a PlayStation
and Nintendo Switch. Why do you, Steve, can you know,
like to break out your little handheld device that has
every Nintendo game ever loaded? Because there's something comforting about nostalgia.
It's not better. Do you think bases loaded is better
than MLB the Show? Do you think you think baseball

(41:15):
stars and having original is more of a financial risk
and you're more guaranteed a slam dunk with something that's
familiar with other people. I'm just saying I play the
audience wants I play MLB the Show with my kid
once in a while now, And to think of that
compared to RBI Baseball?

Speaker 2 (41:32):
Whoa are we playing? What do we think was good?
Trust me? Things are better now. It's just the nostalgia
really hit it in the courts. All right?

Speaker 1 (41:41):
So the rest of your thoughts at Covino and Rich
on social media at Fox Sports Radio, and we got
a live chat going on our YouTube page Coveno and
Rich FSR on YouTube. Now I want you to stick
around because we do Midweek Major every Wednesday. The biggest
stories in sports and pop culture we design here on

(42:01):
the show collectively. Are these stories mid Week or Major
by the way. We might have to rebrand the show
because kids are using different words all the time and
we have to call it like chopped fire.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
Oh, we're changing it. Okay, we're valid.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Oh okay, Yeah, we gotta we gotta come up with
something new made shop bro, Yeah, we gotta figure out
shopped week are shopped cove.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
I say, we keep it and we tell the kids
what's all right.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
I'll do that, so stick around for those stories. But
something else we do every Wednesday is, well, we spread
the wisdom.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Rich Mike's wort's a wisdom. It's time for the guy
that runs this place.

Speaker 9 (42:42):
Just for clarification, guys, Big Mic does not run this place.
He is not in charge of everything. He has no
power over really anybody here. He does not run this place.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
It's Big Mike's words of wisdom on a Wednesday.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Now, I have to implore people, if you're not watching
on the YouTube page YouTube dot com slash at Covine
on Rich FSR. I say that because Mike has now
decided he's gonna stick around on Wednesdays, because he doesn't
rob you of seeing.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Him of the live experience. Yes, I am a beautiful man.
That's right, and you could see Covino play the pan flute. Yes,
I learned from Zamfir only the best.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
So Mike your words of wisdom live and on the
YouTube chat as we do this, let's go.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
Real piece is choosing not to wreck things when you could.
If you aren't capable of wrecking things, you're not peaceful,
You're just a house plant.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
Oh my goodness, a whole lot. If you could repeat
that verbatim, you win. By the way, I don't even
think Mike could repeat that one. The turbo balls are
really nice, man, he got a nice firm grip. We
didn't get our full official inventory, but these are what
they look like.

Speaker 4 (44:00):
Yeah, well that it's going to be a different color.
But this is this is the prototile. This the pososhipment
is on the way in case you won one or so.
If you could repeat that word for word, I just
think we have them do it one. Yeah, not only
do you need to do it again. I didn't even
understand that. I was like, I was so the music
and everything.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
I was like, it's deep, alright, super deep, a here
we go. Real piece is choosing not to wreck things
when you could if you aren't capable of wrecking things.
You're not peaceful, You're just a house plant.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Man.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Well, I'm sort of blown away by that one. Seven
all right, nine nine on Fox. Understand it, deliver it verbatim,
and you wind understand that. I really don't, okay you,
but don't repeat it.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
Just basically, in order to be a peaceful person, you
have to be capable of violence. If you're not capable
of violence, you're not You're just a house plant, right,
You're just ineffectual.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
Ah yeah, okay, fair enough.

Speaker 5 (45:05):
Yeah, Steve, you will understand it on your DEATHBND.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
Nice, that's gonna come to you one that thank you,
So I get it now.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
You know you want one of these turbo balls, get
a get get over to these bad boys. If you
could repeat it verbatim eight seven seven ninety nine on
Fox eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox, let's light
them up all right now while we wait for a winner.
In Mike's words, Wiz and Mike always great saying you,
thank you, Mike, see you guys, I don't care what
Dann Bayer says. You run this place to me, Yeah,

(45:32):
well that means a lot. That was my understanding when
we started here. So Mike runs this place. Yeah from who?

Speaker 3 (45:38):
Who?

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Cavino? Who said that? Yeah? I think it was just curious.

Speaker 9 (45:42):
I'm just curious out of curiosity, who said that man
right there runs this place. It was the I thought,
So that's what I thought. That's exactly what I thought.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
Well, it certainly wasn't me. Maybe it happened in a dream.

Speaker 4 (45:56):
No, you told me back then that nobody told you
guys that It was just kind of implied.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
You just thought that, Well, Mike was always here.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
It's an easy assumption.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
He was always here. He has his own little office
and he's way older than office. All right, Oh yeah,
where's the wisdom?

Speaker 3 (46:14):
You got?

Speaker 2 (46:14):
Wisdom, Mike, Thank you for running this place. Thanks for
being our friends.

Speaker 16 (46:17):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Now, before we get to midweek Major chopped, before we
get a winner on Mike's words of wisdom, I want
to talk about Brock Party for a second, and I
promise you I'm not going to go the typical forty
nine or QB conversation that every other JABBRONI has.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
Kyle Shanahan shot.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
I get it. Kyle Shanahan is quarterback friendly. It's no
doubt about it. When you really look back and you're
like interestingly enough, super handsome, but Jimmy Garoppolo is not
a Super Bowl level quarterback. Jimmy Garoppolo really benefited from
being a guy that knew how to play with Kyle Shanahan. Okay,

(47:00):
Trey Lance couldn't really adapt, but when called Brock, Purty
became the guy. The guy that ended up getting the
team to the Super Bowl, multiple deep playoff runs, ends
up getting fifty sixty million dollars. Unfortunately, turf toe has
got the better of Brock this year so far. Yet
my Niners hit at five and two. He's one and one,

(47:22):
which means four and one for mac Jones. They play
the Texans and then the Giants. If Purdy's tow continues
to irritate, and you don't want to push it, and
I know right now he practiced, but nothing's official. Lets
just say mac Jones plays the next two weeks and

(47:44):
the forty nine ers are sitting at seven and two,
six and one with mac Jones. I'm not a fool.
I'm not gonna be like it's a quarterback controversy. Are
they gonna bench party? They're not gonna bench party if
he's ready to go, But what does that say about
Kyle Shanahan. What does it say about mac Jones, What
does it say about anyone? How do you decipher that?

(48:06):
Do you decipher well anyone with an ounce of talent
could play under Kyle Shanahan. Do you interpret it as
no Matt Jones on the rated the whole.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
Time and do it?

Speaker 1 (48:14):
I think that you just have to have that right chemistry.
Do you look at it a kind of quarterback that
could play under that kind of system.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
I think that's why it works.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
Mac Jones then, based on man if he did play
two more weeks and he was six and one, do
you say mac Jones then definitely deserves a shot to
be a QB in the NFL, or as they It's
also said that he's not trying to take brock Purty's job.
Is brock Purty's job, and he's just trying to do
his best in the meantime many great job. I think
the way you need to look at it is he's
providing a great luxury for no urgency to bring brock

(48:45):
Purty back prematurely, giving him the perfect amount of time
to heal. He's doing his job at the highest level
you could do it. You saw missing Purty and he's
going to recover and hopefully come back and do just
as good, if not better of a job. You saw
Sam Donald with the forty nine ers, not on the
field as much as you heard people say, you know,
he could fit in pretty well with Shanahan. He goes

(49:08):
and gets his chance in Minnesota, then goes gets his
deal for Dan Buyer Seahawks is Sam Darnald, a guy
that you know played under Shanahan, and then you know
Minnesota is a very offensive friendly system as well.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
Well.

Speaker 9 (49:23):
I would say this that they're all kind of from
those same sort of tentacles. So the Seahawks hire Clint Kubiak,
who had worked with Kyle Shanahan and worked with Sam Darnald,
so there was familiarity there. But I think it's I
think you guys are hitting on it. It's not every
quarterback works with Kyle Shanahan. It's the fact that the
offense works so well if you could just have the

(49:46):
quarterback do what he needs to do.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
And I don't want to be disrespectful to brock Purty
and say, hey, why they go waste fifty million dollars
a year on brock perty when they could have just
had Mac Jones, because it doesn't work like that, right,
You got to pay your guy when he's there.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Especially if you stalked him in that stairwell and told
him you loved him.

Speaker 9 (50:02):
That is also I also think that the decisions between
Trey Lance and Jimmy Garoppolo were different because remember when
Garoppolo was acquired, it won like the first six games
with him right, and then it was just the one
throw that he would make or not be able to make,
or the one mistake during a game that he would
make that you just had had you scratching your head.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
Then one time, Jimmy, there was always one right, one
decision a game where you're like, oh.

Speaker 9 (50:28):
And we look at Super Bowl fifty four Emanuel Sanders,
right like, that's that's what we do. Like, Trey Lance
just was never going to work out, And Shannance talked
about at least recently on why they thought the evaluation
was a certain way. But Garoppolo wasn't as bad as
people wanted. But party could do, Party could make that throw.
But I don't think he was that different than Jimmy

(50:49):
Garoppolo because I just felt that Garoppolo was actually pretty
decent with the forty nine.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
Always think to dB Dan Bayer is that we started
throwing terms around like system quarter background, like they were
a bad thing. He's just a system quarterback system when
in reality and in retrospect, if you're a system quarterback
and you're able to play in that system and play effectively, man,
look at you. You think that's a bad thing, like
brock pretty contract. Doesn't it make you an adaptable makes
you an adaptable guy. I'm able to win under this system,

(51:17):
and I think that it's like, remember how goat used
to be a bad thing and now it stands for
the greatest of all time. We're gonna look back and
be like, remember, system of a system quarterback was sort
of insulting.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
If you're able to adapt, you're getting paid.

Speaker 7 (51:29):
Man.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
If you're winning us, all that matters.

Speaker 9 (51:31):
I don't know if it's adaptability, but I don't think
there's anything wrong with it. It's like being typecast. If
you're in a sitcom for ten years. How many actors
would love to have been on a sitcom for ten years.
Granted you're known for the rest of your life and
maybe for your craft. It isn't but there are a
lot of people that would like to be in your spot.
So if you work within that system, to your point,
it's not necessarily a bad thing.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
But we looked at it like, yeah, he's not a
Cam Newton of sorts. Yeah, exactly what did he really win?

Speaker 1 (51:56):
I mean great, I'm not trying to take anything away
from him. But you know, if you that kind of guy,
could you have played in a system? I don't know,
and it's and what it does. Though, again, this is
no insult to a mac Jones or any other quarterback
that is quote works in a system. I don't think
that guy necessarily works when free agency hits and they're like,

(52:20):
all right, it's time for me to get paid, because
you need another tentacle, like you said, a guy that
works in a system, like a Shanahan one of the
disciples of maybe that coaching tree. Because I don't think
a mac Jones could really just go anywhere no and
be successful.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Correct, he hasn't ye New England. Free agency weird sometimes.

Speaker 9 (52:42):
Yeah, not that he had a fair shake at being
the starter in Jacksonville, but he was able to move
on and go to San Francisco.

Speaker 16 (52:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
So just just an interesting thought that the Niners biggest,
great problems. Yeah, it is like the Niner Rock Party,
a lot of room to get better.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
You know what.

Speaker 4 (52:58):
I wonder if Purdy could go so mohere else and
play as well, because we haven't seen him on another team.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
That was always my thought, Damn Bayer, and I was
I'm never against the guy getting the money. To me,
it's like, yo, go get your money. But I remember thinking, like, yeah,
elite quarterback money. When I just wonder, what are the
teams like if if Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen or
a free agent, every.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
Team would be like me, me maybe, yeah, brock Perty.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
I just wondered if if that had come to it,
would would ten teams be like we want him, we
want him.

Speaker 9 (53:27):
I don't know it was it was the whole negotiation,
Like Danny's right, like he was worth fifty million to
the forty nine ers, but he probably wasn't into the
other thirty teams. Maybe that was the leverage the forty
nine ers had. But even last year when we're ripping
on Dak, I felt that you would take Dak Prescott
over brock Party, except if you're the San Francisco forty
nine ers and we rip on Dak all the time.

(53:49):
But for how perty fits, He's worth it to San Francisco.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
You know what it's like.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
It's like any relationship or business partnership, like the person
you're with that makes you so happy. You might realize like, yeah,
other people might not get it, but I get it,
and you're the only one that needs to get it.
Someone might say, like, why do you guys love I
was Sam so much.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
He fits fit. He works with our system. He may
go to another show and they're like, who is this guy?
This guy is sane, But to us, I was saying,
fits the Covino and Rich system like a glove, right exactly.
So thank you guys like a glove.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
Appreciate you hanging out Covino and Rich Fox Sports Radio.
We got Midweek major and your phone calls prizes to
give away eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox. Yeah,
Buddy Man, after watching The Perfect Neighbor last night on Netflix, Yeah,

(54:49):
I feel like we're all better neighbors than I thought.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
Bet.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
By the way, I invented bet back in the nineties,
and I hear us back kids are saying bet all
the time.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
Well you hear old kids saying Bet. I'm like, can
we know you? Never said bet, and he's like I
did in the nineties.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
Bet.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
Bet was a thing.

Speaker 4 (55:05):
It's always been a thing. Never stopped using it because
kids invent bet. It was just the easy way to agree.
I bet, all right, bet whatever you're chumped, I'll give him.
I'll give them all the credit in the world for
six seven, though they could have that all right seven.
So Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio Live from
the Fox Sports Radio Studio.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
My Kids, My Kids pe teacher has officially said no
kid is allowed to say six seven, like a real rule,
like yo, when you're putting no no, and you'll like
you'll get in trouble like no six seven.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
Rich made a good point today.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
I bet you every like high school lineman is dying
to get number sixty seven, right, dying. I'm about to
try to roll a six er, said, so here we go,
let's see.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Yeah, let's fire up you ready, I'm rolling. But it is.

Speaker 17 (55:51):
Time Covino and Rich get you over the middle of
the week when mid week major I love that we
throw sports and pop culture headlines and topics at the
fellas and it's like the kids say, that's so we
definitely leader see it. Our scoring Midweek major.

Speaker 4 (56:13):
Oh yeah you guys ready, Yeah, man.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
When I say co you say Veno, co Veo, co Veino.

Speaker 4 (56:22):
When I say rich, y'all say Davis Rich, Davis rich jas.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
It's about that side. This is dumb. Well, we got
ten minutes. That's too much for you. Yeah, cut it.

Speaker 4 (56:34):
Down, all right, We're gonna roll the two big red
love dice over there to see who gets to have
the first tape.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
Why roll the six four So that's ten.

Speaker 4 (56:41):
Oh wow, it's hard to be rich role now six
four four? All right, there is co Covino gets to
go first. And now, ladies and gentlemen, the most famous
person besides Judy Bloom from Scotch plains New Jersey. Spotty boy, guys, Hey,
Spot are you?

Speaker 2 (57:01):
We're good there, Spotty boy, Chris? How's your new dwellings?
I miss you, guys, Not that.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
You guys care listening, but Spot used to sit in
our studio and now he's in the producer studio shop
this shop with Danny, and I was saying.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
It smells weird in here. Nice all right, let's kick
it off.

Speaker 14 (57:16):
NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell has said that he's standing by
the decision for this year's Super Bowl halftime show with
Bad Bunny. As you know, several people have expressed their
discontent with you this year's choice for the halftime show,
several petitions being created. They had a counter programmed super
Bowl halftime show with a conservative group, so during the

(57:37):
annual Fall owners meeting in New York, at Else explained
that the process of selecting.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
This year's performance was carefully thought through.

Speaker 14 (57:45):
He said that they're not sure they've ever selected an
artist where it didn't have some sort of blowback or criticism,
and it's pretty hard to do when you have literally
millions of people watching the show. So he's confident it's
going to be a great show. Also said that Bad
Bunny understands the platform that he's on and that there's
no plans for him to be replaced. So either watch
Bad Money or go grab some snacks during super Bowl
halftime midweek or major.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
This is so weak. Nice Now, that's a story though.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
The actual outcry everyone being a big sports baby.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
It's about the decision. Do I like Bad Bunny?

Speaker 17 (58:17):
No?

Speaker 2 (58:17):
Is he American? Yes? So shut your face. No one
complained when the Stones did it.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
Paul McCartney, Phil Collins thing, coldplay, Elton John They're not American.
This is from Puerto Rico. Shut your pie holes. It
doesn't matter if.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
Doesn't have to sell with Oh yeah, there you go.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
Sixty thousand people signed a petition for George Strait or
some country act. Get over it. Stop being a bunch
of wienies. Bad Bunny's gonna do it. And last I heard,
j Lo said she's down. We get some fine women
on there. We'll have fun. Stop crying, it's no big deal.
Watch it, enjoy it, and shut up. I never heard
people cry so much about fifteen minutes of their lives.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
Get a life, Wienies, This is weak. I'm not a.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
Huge bad Mooney fan, but do you see me bitch
any complaining.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
You know why?

Speaker 1 (59:07):
I now have four months to get Rosetta Stone and
figure it out. Listen, it'll be fun. You might not
understand everything, but hey, roll with it. But you know
it's not true that AI fake banner that was floating
around Kid Rock, Ted Nugent, Travis Trupp, Jason al Dean,
Aaron Lewis. There was like that fa that was fake.
I'm sure people have seen like what might be the

(59:28):
alternative handtime showing.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
Up the stupid petition like that's gonna do anything. It's
like the person outside the supermarket that's like, can you
sign this? I'm like, no, I don't live here. What
I don't speak English? Hey? Can you can you sign this? About?

Speaker 8 (59:41):
No?

Speaker 2 (59:41):
I live it? I mix something up.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
It was a chance of Goodell being like, you know what,
we heard the people and we're gonna take back the honor.
The only time there was only one time listening to
the people worked, and that was when they changed the
look of Sonic the Hedgehog in the movie. Yes, remember
that story where like he looked all weird and they said,
all right, well the cracker barrel thing where they blew
cracker Barells've been a big marketing scheme through Yeah, so

(01:00:04):
big thank you spot that was you done?

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
That are good?

Speaker 14 (01:00:07):
Yeah, Josh, thanks us take it away then, all right.
Sticking with the some other revelations from the NFL owners meetings,
So they're making some big changes to the Pro Bowl
this year. So in an attempt to make the Pro
Bowl quote more attractive to both players participating and also
the fans, the Pro Bowl will actually move to Tuesday
of Super Bowl Week, taking place at the Moscone Center

(01:00:30):
in San Francisco, which is where the fan fest, the
NFL fan Fest will be taking place that week. As
you know, the format switched to flag football in twenty
twenty three, and the hopes is to highlight the game
where to pump up flag football, which will be part
of the twenty twenty eight Olympics right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Here in La.

Speaker 14 (01:00:46):
So the format will still remain the same with AFC
versus NFC, but the Manning Bros. Will not be coaching
this year unfortunately. So yeah, midweek or major, major in
every way.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
I'll tell you why.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
On a selfish level, we should be at there broadcasting mind,
which means more star power as far as just stopping by,
and we're gonna see a great opportunity to start taking
the Pro Bowl more serious, especially since this an Olympic sport,
so they got things to play for. And I'm really
hoping Pete Weber's out there because he's my favorite Pro Bowl. Ok,
different Pro Bowl, Oh well, either way sounds cool to me.

(01:01:20):
I think this is is major. You said Tuesday, the
week of the Super Bowl. Yeah, that means all the
media and the press that get to that host city early.
Like you said, Tuesday is usually a down day, Dann Buyer,
is that the day we usually just go get like
a sandwich and nothing's doing.

Speaker 9 (01:01:35):
Tuesday's usually media party nights, Yeah, which.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
I remember going to last year and I was like,
no one was there. It was lame. I saw Rob
Parker were like, let's get out of here, let's get
some free wind. So that's only Tuesday. I think this
is great and it'll be fun.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
And you know what, I like to innovate or die
thing right, always got to change if it's not working,
it wasn't working.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
Yeah, I think this is a good idea.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
And by the way, to at an owner's meeting, what
do you think the alpha dog is of all the
NFL owners?

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
Robert Kraft, Oh, Jerry Jerry Jones, even at his age,
you think he's still an alpha dog when he walks
in just a little bit. Are they arranged by age?
It's a good question, all right? What else we got funny?

Speaker 14 (01:02:16):
The organization's Sports Pro and north Star Solutions Group has
compiled a list of the most marketable athletes on the planet,
the whole planet. In a new study revealing the one
hundred and fifty sports stars with the highest values to
brands worldwide, so topping that list. F one icon Lewis Hamilton,
crediting his big move to partner with Ferrari earlier this year.

(01:02:38):
Second place Olympian Simone Biles. Other members in the top
ten include the rugby player who's popular on social media?

Speaker 8 (01:02:46):
What is it?

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
Yona my maher?

Speaker 14 (01:02:49):
No no.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
Sorry? Ronny got the top ten?

Speaker 14 (01:02:52):
You have Steph Curry number four, Ronaldo number five, neymar
at six, Caitlyn Clark number seven, lebron at number eight,
Jannis at number nine, and Coco Goff at number ten.
Some other notable numbers on the list. You have Travis
Kelcey rounding out the top fifty page Beckers thirty eight,
and Angel Reset number twenty. So the full list you
can see online mid week of Majors influential.

Speaker 6 (01:03:13):
What is it?

Speaker 5 (01:03:13):
It's the most marketable athletes.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
This is a bunk ass list. Bro, where's shoe Hao
Tani not in the top ten? Get out of my face?
Then this is stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
Kenny Powers. You didn't even mention him chat powers is
he knows? Get out of here with that. I don't
like that. I'm chat pat. It exists, though it's based
on marketability.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
Very mid mid mid. Thanks for picking mid, because you
guys don't pick mid in well, this is totally mid.
I'll tell you why there's so many big NFL stars
too that I don't know. I asked myself who could
sell a shoe? Who could be in a commercial that
you'd laugh out or understand? And I'll be honest, like
some of the names you said, I'm like, no one cares. Remember,
it's worldwide, that's true. I'm and have met, and I

(01:04:01):
think it's all about me. I guess, yeah, but we're
entitled to our wrong opinions. And my wrong opinion says
that week. That's a week. Guys listen, maybe tell me Ronaldo,
I say, okay, yeah, I mean he's on the list,
all right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Next one's fuck fine.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
The most marketable guy isn't even playing as Michael Jordan.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
He's still the most marketable fine, all right.

Speaker 14 (01:04:19):
Speaking of the number fifty Top fifty, Travis Kelce and
Patrick Mackholmes new business venture fifteen eighty seven Prime still
going strong, and on this week's New Heights podcast, Chas
and Kelsey revealed that he's making his first visit to
the restaurant, which led to a discussion of Travis Kelce
revealing his go to order when he's at his own restaurant,

(01:04:39):
which has a price tag of one hundred and seventy
three dollars in my mind, not that much considering it's
a steakhouse. So for starters, he likes the lobster roll,
hamachi and steakhouse unique twists on.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
Cheeseburger and chicken nuggets.

Speaker 14 (01:04:53):
And then for the main course, which I think is
where the money is, is a Japanese a five New
York strip steak with black truffle butter and a side
of truffle fetacini.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
He didn't list his dessert, so that's all we got.
Mid weaker major.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
This is so weak, Like, you know, we're such on
the Kelsey hype train that we got to talk about
their stupid order. Get out of here. I'm not blaming spot.
I understand that's that's a headline. That's a headline, But
that week when like what their.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
Order is is news.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
I think I think the hottest aangle of this story
is the fact that Travis and Taylor appeared at the
restaurant and the few fans that were able to get
in and get a reservation like it was pretty cool
for them. They were very really they were really fanboy
and fangirling like almost like like screaming when Travis and
Taylor were there. Very overpriced, but then again, every steakhouse

(01:05:45):
is overpriced. Now, I just wonder how long it lasts mid.
You know why it's mid.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
I guess a lot of.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
Celebrities have restaurants and clubs and you know ventures. So
all right, thank you, spot, Thanks appreciate it, buddy. Now
now it's time for dB with the update byer you know, known.

Speaker 9 (01:06:07):
As a rich Davis guy. But somebody is trying to
change that. Somebody slid in my d MS last night.
One Steve Covino.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
Sneaky behavior. Don't worry about it. The picture of.

Speaker 9 (01:06:24):
Just just let you know, game on between you get
best give me some nice recommendation up dame buyer television
shows and also passing along some NFL uniform information.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
I think you're the only guy. Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
Also send him a picture of you and your pinstripe
tiny weddies.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
I was gonna say that for tonight. Yeah, with Aaron
Judge on the butt, nothing but a Seahawks had on.

Speaker 9 (01:06:56):
All right, let's get to uh two real matters here
at FL Week eight. Commanders not going to have Jayden
Daniels quarterback has been ruled out of their Monday night
matchup with the Chiefs because of a hamstring strain in
Kansas City. Was the last time we saw Ravens quarterback
Lamar Jackson on the field until today limited in practice
with his hamstring strain.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
Tomorrow's Thursday, and Thursday is the new Friday, and we
do old school and fifty hits. So definitely join us
manyana as we reminisce some more and throw it back
and do it every Thursday, and we get you involved. Well,
I teased, what NFL team has taken such a huge
step back and no one's really noticing or taken taking

(01:07:38):
up taking this up with them. Okay, there's a team
that took a major step back, and it's only going
to get worse when I do a little schedule watching. Okay,
if you do a little Rich Davis schedule watching.

Speaker 17 (01:07:49):
Oh, the Rich loves to look at the schedule, game
schedule watching.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
Yeah, what team I don't know outperformed everyone in the
postseason and made it all the way to the NFC
Championship Game. Who was your big surprise team? Last year
in the NFC. I see Manzi malving it your Washington Commanders.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
They have taken a step back.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
Washington Commanders, well, their fan base had something really to
be excited about. Mclaurin's been hurt. Jaden Daniels been banged up.
They're three and four like sort of just hanging on.
They're like, you know, they're there. They don't even I
don't even feel like they got the vibe in the
momentum of the Giants who are two and five. It's
on that chunky soup Jaydon Daniels as injuries. It's a

(01:08:40):
lot of injuries, Danny g But I'm saying, what a
franchise and an organization finally gets really great momentum for
their fans, right like right now with the Mariners did
in baseball with Cal Rowley and everything. Imagine next year
the Mariners are under five hundred and be like, oh,
but we were just good. The Commanders, I just hope
for their fan base it was in a one off

(01:09:01):
and they could healthy get that team back on track, and.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
That based on what you said, it does get any easier.
Let me let me schedule.

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
Watch right now, they're three and four right without Jayden,
Daniels and McLaurin banged up. Still they play the Chiefs,
Seahawks and Lions. You're losing at least two of those games.
You're gonna be four and six. After ten, you got
a good chance of losing all. I mean, you might
be three and seven, to be honest. So shout out
to the commanders fans. I apologize. It just a rough

(01:09:28):
road ahead. You can't do it every year. It's the
NFL parody. We'll see you guys manyana. Until then, bye, goodbye, guys.
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CrimeLess: Hillbilly Heist

CrimeLess: Hillbilly Heist

It’s 1996 in rural North Carolina, and an oddball crew makes history when they pull off America’s third largest cash heist. But it’s all downhill from there. Join host Johnny Knoxville as he unspools a wild and woolly tale about a group of regular ‘ol folks who risked it all for a chance at a better life. CrimeLess: Hillbilly Heist answers the question: what would you do with 17.3 million dollars? The answer includes diamond rings, mansions, velvet Elvis paintings, plus a run for the border, murder-for-hire-plots, and FBI busts.

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