December 23, 2024 • 44 mins
Covino & Rich filling in for Dan as they talk about their weekend TV viewing including the new Aaron Rodgers documentary.
In honor of Festivus, the guys air out their grievances.
They guys pay tribute to Rickey Henderson as the legend sadly passed away over the weekend.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Yeah, what's going on? Man Covino on Rich and for
the Great DP.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Hey, good morning, buddy, Steve Covino, Rich Davis. Hope you
had a great weekend. Yeah, and Olex sant Ooh, Sicko's
sick Ravens Commander's Vikings bills sort of weekend.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
We're gonna get into it. Rest in peace.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Rickey Henderson of course lost the legend over the weekend,
but hope you.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Enjoyed your holiday parties. Spot still has his ugly Christmas
orter on from all the party and he did this week.
Never took it off the major award. I'm Covino, that
is Rich, Jase Stu on the xylophone. Up, what's up?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Chase Stu and the number eight seven seven nine nine
six six three six nine eight seven seven ninety nine
on Fox Everything at Covino and Rich Now a lot
to get to in the world of the NFL. It
was a big fight over the weekend, two days till Christmas.
I want to start that by two quick things before
over all our observations from week sixteen of the NFL.
(01:05):
Number one, I watch home alone with my kids. Ah,
they're seven and four. Oh boy, And I think I
had to remind my son, like, yeah, you can't do
that stuff in real life, you know right, Like you
can't throw a paint can at someone's head.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
You can't.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
You can't like fire a lot about your son. Yeah,
you can't like fireworks in a pot.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
You know that, right? Right? Right? Did they think you
played Marv?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
But let me tell you that, I think that's the
difference between a little boy and a little girl as
we lived the dad life because I never had to
have that conversation with my daughter. No, for real, I said,
just so you know, honey, I said to my daughter, well,
you know, if we left you at home, She's like.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Please, don't that.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
My son's like, I think I could get the bad guys.
I'm all right, let's relax, right. But observation number one
over the weekend, besides all the NFL, have you watch
home alone now? As a parent? The mcallis does they
don't really care enough? The mcallisters don't care enough. Did
your New York just kick.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Mcallis? Does don't seem to care enough that they left
their eight year old at home?
Speaker 4 (02:02):
No, you know what would someone pointed out recently and
kind of clicked. Everything's placed on the mother. The dad
really doesn't care, dude, he's on vacation.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
It's like, I'm going to Paris to see my brother
and he's like, yeah, we let.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
The get at home.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
She's probably okay, man, man, wife, I can't believe you
did that.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
When the mom like goes home with John Candy and
the polka ban and everything, the dad shows up right after.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
He's like, hey, we're good. It's like a very Christmas
Look all right, come on, let's get let's go to
the foot.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Just like you had to tell your son rich that
you know this is a movie, I have to tell
you the same. So sounds like he's a chip off
the old blockhead. They're acting. You wouldn't do the same
in real life either. No, I know, but but Jay still,
you mean you can't get electrocuted and live. Hey, if
your son is ever missing, you forgot him somewhere. Don't
(02:51):
act like the dad. I'm just saying. Even at one
point they go send the cops over, some old ass
cop shows up at the mccalisers. He's like, yeah, no,
one's answering. Guess the kid's Okay, I guess so's everyone
at the airport. Our son's stuck at home. Well, I
gotta get somewhere. I'm not giving you my flight like
everything about it. Oh yeah, it's a comedy, obviously, obviously, guys, yeah,
(03:13):
that would be the most frantic situation. Rich and I
have joked for years the second your kid doesn't come
out of a jumpy jump playhouse, You're like, where are they?
It's the most panicky feeling that ever was, especially when
it's on dad's watch. You go to the playground, your
kid goes down a slide, they don't pop out.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
The other endroid.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Seriously, I've started crawling through like Chuck E Cheese playhouses
just trying to find my kid out of panic, and
my kid's like that, I'm right here, what's up. It's
the scariest, the scariest feeling in the world is when
you can't find your kid. Obviously, you know they'd be
freaking out.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
In real life.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
That was observation number one, and we're gonna watch a
second one tonight.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I think they're the perfect eight for Home Alone and
Home Alone two. Well, you know, the dad could be
in a loose sort of fella I could be that
at times he didn't like his son so much. Who knows.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
I remember my sister went missing when we were little kids.
Actually that happened a few times. I've seen my parents
freak out for one sister and not for another. But
I remember we were in Disney World Epcot Center, and
you know how you do the little trip around the world.
We lost one of my siblings in country. We lost
her in like Mexico, somewhere, I don't know. I forget
(04:25):
where we were Jays two, but I remember as a
like a teen, like preteen, maybe thirteen years old, fourteen
years old, I went with the whole family. I remember
thinking like she ruined the whole day. That's all I
cared about.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
Well, I remember the worst five minutes, probably of my wife,
definitely of my parenthood. Me and my six year old
son are walking out of a busy Dodger game. Okay,
for whatever reason, we stopped holding hands. I look around
and he's nowhere to be seen. The most frantic oh,
(04:58):
I was about to have a heart attack. My flip
phone at the time starts to ring. My six year
old was smart enough to go up to the security
guard say I've lost my dad. This is his phone
number that I memorized.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Wow, dude, my daughter. Now, I guarantee you that's great.
What a nice story.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Look at that.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
It's probably end one.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
That so just a reminder if you watch Trouble one,
it's not realistic. Monister didn't have a cell phone back then,
Little Kevin. It was nineteen ninety. Hey, kid, Yeah they did,
and they so casually didn't care that Joe Peschi was
in their house in the beginning, like a cop just
stop by. Yes, I saw a funny ass meme over
the weekend. It was knock knock, knocking on Kevin's door.
(05:43):
It's a picture of Joe Peschi. It's funny. So now
observation number two. Last night, my father in law's in town.
Everyone went to sleep except him and I so a little,
you know, a little hang with my wife's dad, and
neither one of us had started watching the Aaron Rodgers
Enigma documentary.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
And I don't know what it was.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
I'm such a sucker because I watched episode one and
I actually have some type of like positive feelings for
Aaron Rodgers, Like there's a part of me I was like, man,
is he misunderstood? Is he like, not not the guy
I thought he was, Like, I think this documentary is
convincing me. After one episode, I'm like, by the third episode,
(06:25):
you'll be saying of him. In the first one, for sure,
I could see how you would say he's just a
misunderstood guy. He just wants to win. He grew up
a ninersand they didn't draft him. His parents seem like
they suck, and you know, he got hurt on the
fourth play last year, and that's not the path he
clearly wanted to try to. I felt the same way
(06:45):
about Mark Gastineau in that Jets thirty for thirty, because
all the trailers led up for you to think that.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
This guy's a problem. He's an ale that's why he's
not in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
But then you start to hear about his childhood a
little bit, and you're like, yeah, he's just a misunderstood guy.
There's a lot of misunderstood people. Doesn't give you the
right to be a jo As my dad would say,
I don't.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
Know, jaseon, did you watch The Enigma? I watched the
entire thing. A couple of takeaways, Okay, I liked Aaron
Rodgers going in I'm one of the few guys that
actually like what he's all about. And I think that
I don't think the public appreciates that we have a quarterback,
uh basically who was at the top of his game,
who as was as controversial and said as much as
Aaron does. I don't think I think we'll appreciate it
(07:31):
when when it's all over. Yeah, but my takeaway from
the doc was this the whole ayahuasca thing, Steve, especially
in the third episode, right, the whole ayahuasca thing is
to get away and to disconnect and to find yourself.
And what I've found kind of contradicting about the whole thing.
They let cameras in multi cameras in to film this thing,
and it's like you're documenting something that, by nature is
(07:54):
supposed to be something to disconnect from from all the technology.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Right.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah, No, it's a really weird thing to see. And
that's also why he's misunderstood Rich. It's also conventional, to
unconventional to see an athlete behave the way he behaves
and to be such a hippie, dippy guy, you know,
in that way. We're not used to seeing that. And
I forget who said this I wish I can credit them.
Someone said it it was like on an SNY network
(08:21):
it looked like our old s and y set Rich.
He's always been sort of smug, sort of arrogant Aaron Rodgers, right,
but he matched that in his gameplay, and that's the difference.
Now he just does not, so he's gonna get the hate.
Like if he was smug and had this cocky attitude
about him, but he was winning all the time, and
he was winning Mvps're like, alright, I guess.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
He's Aaron Rodgers man. Wow.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
But when you have that same attitude about yourself and
you're more outspoken, you have all these platforms and you're
under delivering where everyone thought you were gonna be the savior.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I know you said. It's like a hot girl.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
If she's got a little attitude, some people are like,
it's okay, But if she got fat, they'd be like,
all right, you can't have that attitude anymore.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Got the attitude.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
It was cute at the beginning when she was a
smoke show, but as time went on, you're like.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
You know what, all this stuff I liked about her
kind of hate it now. It could only be jolly
if you're fast, so it's a little bit of that.
It's a little bit of that too.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
And you know he's gotten a voice and you hear
it a lot, so he could rub you the wrong way.
I'm with Jay stew though, I was never one of
those guys that hated Aaron Rodgers at all. So you
know what, interestingly enough, I know we all know this.
I'm not breaking the glass. Were all sports fans. But
you gotta remember, he thought he was going to be
arguably the number one pick for the team he grew
(09:38):
up watching. You know, here's a guy that had to
go to a local college before he even went to
cal Yeah, he has a chip on every step of
the way. He was sort of overlooked, and god, he
was the nerdiest looking kid.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Bangs.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
No one told me this.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
No one told me that Aaron Rodgers had like a
Caesar like bangs, haircut like.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Keith d Like, what was that? I mean, it was
the time. So he was a goofy looking dude, got
overlooked every step of the way. Thought he was.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
They took Alex Smith for reference, they thought, and by
the way, he was a good NFL quarterback.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Alex Smith but thought he'd be going to the forty
nine ers, and then waited around, waited around, and just.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Added to that chip on it, but embarrassingly waited around.
And then you get drafted by a small market Midwest
team who has Bret Farth.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
So every step of the way sort of was a
hassle for this guy.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Then he found his way, and you're right, I really
do think I haven't started episode two or three, but
I feel like the narrative for this dude changed when
he started talking about vaccines. And that never bothered me
about him, because I'm like, I wasn't hung up on
the whole is the immunizer who cares? I didn't really
care at the time his little lie, But I feel
(10:50):
like that changed the complete narrative and everyone just turned
on him.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
That was it. I think that was the real start
of the hate.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Right, he either liked him or he didn't, a big deal,
But then you really started to hate the guy because
of him misleading people on whether or not he was vaccinated.
So really interesting. You start episode two tonight. I'm gonna
watch it tonight, But it was it was a good
show to watch with my father in law because I was.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Like, what was his takeaway.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
That's what I'm always c's I think, what did you
think he's a Packers fan?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah, so you know he's like he loves Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
A game of Super Bowl and then him and I
had that conversation of Wow, Brett fav Aaron Rodgers. Now
Jordan love. They got three in a row. They there
should be more than two super Bowls to show for.
You know what bothers me the most, Jay Stu, Fox
Sports Radio Nation again, Covino and Rich and for the
great DP day one of the Dan Patrick Hatrick, I.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Mean, and also a very special day.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Today's a holiday as well, and we're gonna celebrate Fest
of Us in just a little bit. And Mary's here
running things. Was up Mary, So we're gonna marry. We're
gonna have some fun today. What bothers me is he's
tarnishing his own legacy at this point. That does bother me,
you know, because we're gonna look back at these jetsiers.
If he doesn't do something to turn it around, I
(12:07):
can't imagine what could happen. You're always gonna look that
stigma really never goes away. He was great you have
with those Jets sies. Can I hate that for a
great player, even if I was a fan of them
or not, I always hate that. And it's like, dude,
you had such a great career, like you were a
great one. And then to end on this note, this
(12:27):
misery with the Jets, Dude, they're terrible.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
They're worse with.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Him, like this sort of stigma that hurts me as
a as a sports fan.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
You know what, though, I think his journey of enlightenment,
which is what I'll call it, is much like Mike Tyson.
I think, you know how Mike Tyson speaks about his
legacy and doesn't really care what other people.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Think about.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Had no ego, like I'm gonna die After I die,
What do I care what people think about me? I
really think that's where Aaron Rodgers is headed at this time.
I believe I don't think he cares at all what
other people think about him.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
At this point, I say, I think that's the the
question that's left after you watch all three episodes. I
think that's one of the questions that we all have
to kind of deal with. Does he care? Because that's
the big contradiction. He'll he doesn't care, but I think
he I think he watches and reads everything that is
said about him, but I really do.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
And if he gives off the vibe that he doesn't care,
why do you care? Because I'm a.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Sports fan, That's why, and that's how Why do you
Because that's how we measure sports, wins, losses, victory stats,
that's how we measure it.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
But creating about in the world doesn't care. Why do
you care about him?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Because anything in life though, I mean the don't care
about anything, fo you don't care about.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Anything, doesn't Just the last week contradict that I don't care.
This whole thing with Ryan Clark is Aaron Rodgers really
caring what Ryan Clark said and taking shots at him
and then back and forth. So it's like, that's kind
of the contradiction in the guy. There's actually a lot
of contradictions, but that's what makes him interesting.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
He's a super sensitive guy.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
He admits that in the docuseriies Enigma Rich. I'm excited
for you to see the rest of it to get
your full analysis.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I'm late to the party.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
I know.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
I feel like I'm the guy that went to the
theater to watch the movie like a month after everyone else.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
But I was like, finally the right time.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
You know, you end up watching a bunch of the
holiday stuff, and there's a lot of There was a
lot of games, college football games. Finally I'm like, all right,
let's sit down and watch. And I was shocked because
I did you and your father in law set an
appointment up for your next diyahuasca?
Speaker 2 (14:25):
No, No, I think I'll just have it edible way.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I no, Rich, I think this is something you and
I should investigate, bring us closer together.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Why ask, let's go No.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
But you know, my other takeaway for Aaron Rodgers was
a lot of times when you watch these stories and
I'll end on this because there's so much of damn stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
To get to.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
There was a lot of great football over the weekend,
and we got more football in a couple of days.
I think the takeaway for me is when I'm watching
Last Dance about Michael Jordan, when I'm watching Man in
the Arena, Tom Brader, I'm watching if I'm watching any
docuseries the on Netflix, the O four, Red, Sox Fantastic,
(15:07):
you see the struggle, but then there's.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
The payoff when you see him going through rehab.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
And by the way, want too many pictures of his foot,
like enough oiling up of his ankle on foot.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
But when I'm watching the.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Aaron Rodgers Enigma and he's talking about how he's got
so much more left, and the reality is that hasn't happened.
It's like a documentary where I'm like, where's like if
the ending was and then he went to the Jets
and made it to the playoffs or won a Super Bowl,
then it's a documentary. This is like it opened end
to the documentaries, Like it's like watching Lebamba. You're like,
(15:40):
I know how this ends.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
It's terrible.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Do you guys remember the doc Do you remember the
doc Free Solo? It won an Oscar? It was the
guy that went up El Capatown. Well, I remember seeing
the oscars and him him being there alive to receive
the Oscar. And then I watched the doc afterwards, like
the whole the holes. I guess while you're watching it,
(16:03):
the whole thing is like you're seeing the guy who
could die at any second, right, but you know he
lives because he accepted that oscar. Yeah, So I wish
I had said it before I knew that.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
So I feel that way. I'm like because in the documentary. Again,
it's filmed mostly during the year where he was injured.
So what does he say in the whole time?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Kavi?
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Now, the whole time, he's like, well, we're gonna put
twenty three twenty four behind us, and we're gonna look
forward to twenty four to twenty five.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
And I'm like, I know what happens. It's not good.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Aaron gat like what saviorself like, don't And then now
you're thinking, after this terrible campaign of a season, what
lies ahead for Aaron Rodgers retirement.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
I feel like I'm.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Glad Jay stew back me up, back me up a
little bit in that he came across as like I
didn't hate him, because there's a lot of Aaron Rodgers haters.
I watched episode one and my feeling was, oh, man,
it's a bummer. You know, every step of the way
he had a battle and he only won one Super
Bowl for as good as he is, and now he
thought he was gonna prove everyone wrong, and they play
(17:04):
all the talking head stuff from Fox Sports people to
ESPN people. When he joined the Jets, it was like
people like Greenie were like, it's a rebirth New York.
The Jets are turning it around and to know where
we are now. You're watching a documentary, like I said,
with with not a happy ending? What was that rom
comm spot that we used to joke about had the worst?
It was like My Black Book or something, my Little
(17:26):
Black Book. There was one rom com I watched I
remember with like an X back of the Day and
the ending wasn't they like didn't get together? I could Yeah, No,
what about the one with Vince Fallen and Jennifer Aniston
The BREAKUPA break you were thinking, like you're like, oh,
by the way, tap tap tap, what is it? Reppy
tap teppy? Come come on the kids trump. That was
(17:49):
a great movie. But spoiler, they don't get together in
the end. It's sort of like it's a breakup. It
is called the breakup. He's a happy ending, So like
you know, it's no one's watching. It's like that's the thing.
Not everything's a happy end. But I'm saying this is
the this is a miserable ending. Your team doesn't get you.
Remember the old Remember the old DVD you would buy
if your team won a championship, like the Year in Review. Yeah,
(18:10):
they don't sell Year in Reviews for the teams that
don't do anything. I feel you're watching that for Aaron
Rodgers and the Jets.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
No, we are, unfortunately. All right, Well, I'm glad you
turned me on to it.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
I know everyone probably has watched it already, but you know,
there's a lot of holiday stuff going on.
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Speaker 2 (19:29):
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Speaker 3 (19:33):
Now it is time for something that goes down every
December twenty third, thanks to Frank Costanza, and it's called Festivus.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
The point of Festivsts. Take a listen.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
The tradition of Festivus begins with the airing of Gravances.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I got a lot of problems with your people. Now
you've been to hear about it.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
All right, break out the Festivus, Paul, And here's where
you let us know what the hell annoyed you over
the last twelve months, in the world of sports, in
the world of entertainment, music, anything, what bothered the hell
out of you?
Speaker 2 (20:06):
In twenty twenty four, it's your turn.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Aside from you and your hyperactivity, I'm a delight jay
Stu last night. I'll tell you what bothered me. Rich
calling me out last night. He often calls me with
no purpose, and it's like, that's what you called me for.
You could have texted me that. That makes me angry
and I want to air that grievance.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yeah, text me.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
This is why I sit there bewildered, Like that's why
he called me? Was he bored on his ride home?
Is he on the ball? That was a total text?
Are you just like seeing if I was alive? What
was the point and purpose of that now? Twenty years ago?
Speaker 5 (20:41):
That's fine, right, right, right? But I want to get
this right. Gary Goleman is one of my favorite comedy
love comedians. Okay, he said he has this bit and
it's perfect. The phone is simply an app on my
phone and if you're gonna use it a better count.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
I love Gary. I love Gary, Gary Goleman. Shout out
to Gary. I call him a system of a goldman
now or gulman of a down. Have you seen him lately?
It's like surge from system of a down. He grew
out like this long goatee and everything my grievances have
to do with Rich. Actually, no, he calls me last
(21:18):
night and he starts to mansplain what Festivus is. He's like, hey,
I got a great idea for tomorrow. Tomorrow's the twenty third.
He's like, how about we do Festivus and let people
air their grievances in the world. The sports are just
life or whatever. I was like, that's great, and then
he continues to explain to me what it is. As
(21:39):
if I haven't talked to the guy for twenty years,
you're also you're also the guy that's like, never really
watched Seinfeld, I'm aware of pop culture references. Who hasn't
seen that or heard the reference by now?
Speaker 4 (21:52):
I also feel like we talk about it every year
because it's become a pop culture thing in the last
few years.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
You guys know, this doesn't have to be about what
you hate about me.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
I had a pause.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
First of all, this is clip on our show. We
joke about it.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
I didn't mind that he called me to let's talk
about what we're gonna do on DP tomorrow. That that's
an important conversation to me. But when he goes on
explaining what Festivus is, I'm like, you mean, what we've
talked about for twenty years to get that, and.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
We're going to make him cry.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
By th way, when Rich calls you, by the way,
never have a follow up question because he'll get bored
and hang up on you.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Guys hate about me? No, no, here.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Here's the other thing with Rich when he calls is
all sense of urgency, right, But when you call him,
he's nowhere to be found for like, so he oh
my god, what he dimmoned? Your wife's just disappear? So, hey,
where's Rich together? I guess he's busy. So anyway, grievans.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
By the way, Cavino, on top of your grievance, I
could add the fact that he called you to talk
about today's show without looping me.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yet we're talking about the show tomorrow. We might as
well add the producer. You know, that would have been
a smart thing to do. They talk about you, that's why.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
But a little like nugget of something then, so I'm like,
are you man explaining to me right now as if
I don't know what it is? And he's like yeah,
but I figured, he goes, well, if you know, what's
the second part of it? And I was like, I
don't know. Having the pole the festival bowl. I didn't
know the second part, so I'll give you that. Can
you explain what the feats of strength?
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Yeah? Are you doing that as well?
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Down since we're talking festivals, can you at least explain
the Seinfeld reference?
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Yeah, the the origins.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
It was an I mean, if you want me to
man explaining to dummies like you know the second part though,
because I remember hearing it, but I don't really know
what the feats.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Of Many years ago, I went to the store. I
purchased a doll for my son.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Yeah, take as many Christmases ago, I went to buy
a doll for my son.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
I reached for the last one they had, but so
did another man.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
As I rain.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Blows upon him, I realized that had to be another way.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
What happened to the doll?
Speaker 4 (23:56):
It was destroyed, But out of that, oh Holiday was
born a Festivus for the rest of us.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
That must have been some kind of doll she was.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
So it's as day that I know what are the
feats of strength? Based on his uh fighting for the doll.
You have to that's really where it comes from. Okay, So,
Mike Grievance has had nothing to do with you until
you went it may and now I have a million
of them. Let's start with you thinking the Yankees pinstripes
mean anything they do to the fans, they do to
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anyone over thirty five. My number one grievance is that
I think it's funny. In fact, I think it makes
you guys look lame. The fact that the Yankees still
have this no facial hair rule. I see every headshot
of Paul Goldschmidt like a handsome late thirties guy. It's
gonna have to look like a baby face nerd because
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the Yankees were shave your stumble, how outdated. Poor Devin
Williams's gonna have to come out of the bullpen with
you know, Raisin burn because he has to shave before
he closes out the game, first time in six years
that he has to be clean shaven. Yeah, that's that's
kind of tough. Here's why. Here's you know what, rich,
I agree that the Yankees have a tradition. I agree
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that maybe it's pasted right. Sometimes tradition is making the
same mistake over and over again, and maybe in today's
world that doesn't fly. But I think there's a middle ground,
Like there's a compromise. You can't come in looking like
a hobo, but maybe you come in and still have
long hair, just well groomed. Yeah, I'm gonna say it
looks like a red sox. But like you know, compromise
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a little bit. But it got me thinking that Devin
Williams situation. He hasn't shaved in six years. What if
he's covering up a a week chin. Or maybe he
does get that razor burn that some people get. For
all we know he has some frog eggs under there
and he doesn't want to really expose that. Maybe that
takes away from his confidence. I want this guy to
feel confident on the mound. Sometimes you feel good, you
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play good. Somebody once said that Jerry Rice exactly. It
was Jerry right. So you know what, Rich I believe
in looking your best and presenting your best, unlike you
who wear sweatpants to work every day. Just kidding, but
I do believe that it's an outdated rule, man. I
do I think they have to adjust it. I am
wearing sweatpants right now. Your grievances, I got one at eight, seven, seven,
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nine nine on Fox.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
What else he had? I open it up to you.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Fox Sports Radio Dan Patrick Nation eight seven seven ninety
nine Fox eight at Covino and Rich our boys spot
here who does our videos? Again at Covino and Rich
and he produces our Patreon if you want to check
that out. He pointed this out and broke the glass
to me. But since then I despise it. It's the
(26:44):
jabbroni on social media whose sole purpose is just to
point at the content. It's like, what are you contributing
to this video and to my life?
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Get out of my face?
Speaker 3 (26:54):
And if you don't know what I'm talking about, it's
a video about drones or a video about aliens or
Aaron Rodgers. And all this ask Plan is doing is
pointing at someone else's content, right, He's pointing. So I've
taken upon myself to tell these people, you know, because
they usually pose it with a question or something like
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and what do you think I think I'd understand more
if you point it a little more at literally pointing
would have done me a lot better.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
In this video, I'm.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Pointing at Kavino as he's making this point post that
video that to me millions of views, you're offering nothing
to the world, and I want to karate kick you
in the sternum. Yeah, and what it annoways be is
usually the pointer gets more views than the original.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
That really bothers you if you know what I'm talking about. Okay,
that's a huge problem on Twitter.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Now that we pointed it out, though on a national scale,
on a huge platform, the Dan Patrick Show, millions of
people are gonna be like, you know what, I hate
that guy too, Send him all the hate in the world.
Tell them to get a life, get a life, get
a life. Content, Chase, do I know one of your
professional pointer one of Chase do His pep peeves is
the people that are shocked that time is moving along.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
It is.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
It's my favorite one. And I don't even know if
it's a pet peeve. Is that it's just I like
making fun of unsophisticated, unoriginal people. And if you're if
you're partaking in small talk, if you walk into an
ovator with a bunch of strangers, I think it's easy
just to go to those low hanging fruit small talk things. Man,
it's already it's already Christmas. Could you believe it exactly?
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It was just Christmas yesterday.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
I hate those people too, because I'm not good at it.
I hate I'm allergic to small talk.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Oh but can I add a little nugget to the
premise then, man, time's a flying. But my theory is this,
and it really bothers me, so I'll air my grievance.
I feel like after COVID the world has been on
fast forward and I can't wrap my head around the schedule.
After COVID, I feel like we're in a time warp
and something happened and times moving way too fast. Something
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happened after COVID, where I was never the same in
my perception of time is off. Like everything pre COVID
is different to me than after COVID, and after COVID.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Is twenty twenty five. Already that bothers me. I'm gonna
air my grievance. It sounds like long COVID. It sounds
like long I think you.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Still have long COVID. I think, yeah, maybe I do. Honestly,
you share this sentiment. There's a big trend on social
media now where mostly like millennials, a lot of people
in their thirties are saying that they feel as though
again post COVID is like a weird world for them. Well,
I think the sentiment you're seeing a lot as a
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my I on social media, as people saying that they've
never they've the feeling of happiness hasn't been the same,
like the spark of.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Life has been different. Interesting.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
I have one more now and then we'll take all
of your feedback. I hate, you know, people talking about
Lebron versus Michael Jordan. We say that's the most like
eye rolly, weak ass goats sports debate, like.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Jordan or Lebron.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
I feel like one of there's a debate that bothers
me even more, and it's is Diehard a Christmas movie?
Speaker 2 (30:10):
I just feel like it's it's the Jase do.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
I'd rather someone say, man, Tom's flying in an elevator
then then ask someone, hey, what's your favorite Christmas movie?
And it's instead of having instead of having a real
answer like oh, it's a.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Wonderful life for Elf or oh, Christmas vacation. You know,
I'm a big fan of Love.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Actually, when someone's like Diehard, I'm like, oh my god,
how masculine are you trying to appear? I agree with
die Hard. And by the way, fun fact it was
released in July.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
It's not a Christmas as we said recently.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
It's the fact, but it's it's the fact that the
person saying that acts as if you didn't ever hear
before that, you know, diehards a Christmas movie, like, oh
really never heard that one before?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
That's what makes it a Christmas.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
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Speaker 2 (31:06):
Wapp Uh you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Ricky Henderson, the late great Ricky sixty five years old,
complications from pneumonia.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Is there any update or is that where is That's
where we're at.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Right No, man, But it did start with some speculation
because Dave Winfield, former teammate, Hall of Famer legend Dave Winfield,
posted that he was truly upset, couldn't believe, still couldn't
believe that he had to deal with the passing of
his longtime friend Ricky Henderson. And then that put everyone
on this search like what Ricky Henderson?
Speaker 2 (31:38):
And it was nowhere to be seen.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
The family hadn't announced anything, It wasn't on TMZ or
any news outlet. I know you did you and of
course you went to X you went to TMS that
you went everywhere, and then you googled news Ricky and
nothing comes up.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
And then later that day it started to come out,
and you're like, no way, man, Ricky Henderson.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
You know people throw around, this is one takeaway people
throw around. Oh he was one of a kind. Oh man,
he was one of the great ones. They throw that
stuff around way too much, because then how do you
describe a Ricky Henderson.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Give me a break. He's arguably the greatest.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
If not all around greatest player we've ever seen, greatest
leadoff hitter of multy five years in the big leagues.
And talk about characters, right, so many takeaways, so many moments,
And I have one of my favorite quotes. The thing is,
sometimes the legend becomes fact. A lot of these stories
aren't true, but you want him to be true. Some
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of them are true. But I'll never forget as a
Yankees fan just seeing Ricky Henderson knowing he was in Oakland, A.
And there's no debate there. He's an Oakland A. He's
a Bay Area legend. But he played five sweet years
with the Yankees and in the prime time of my
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fandom growing up, when I was a kid, when you
saw how this dude played and he saw him steel bases.
You saw how he looked in a uniform. One of
my first takeaways was, my goodness, he looks like a
running back in pinstripes. Chiseled stone, chiseled at a stone
like you saw. This sounds corny, but I'm sure Mary
wouldn't recognize this or know this. Mary's a little younger,
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Like you saw his quads through the uniform, Like you
saw how like built he Back in the day when
we were kids, people that played baseball looked like Keith
Hernandez and Ozzie Smith, like you were like dad bod
sort of.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
And Ricky Henderson was the one guy where you're like,
he must work out.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
You're like, this dude is chiseled, and you saw his
leg muscles through the uniform. You really did, And you
saw how he played the game he didn't see. And
I don't think a lot of people talk about this,
but I think everybody knows it. One of my first
observations as a child, because we would mimic it was
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not only his batting stance, but when he would snap
a fly ball a pop out, he would snap it
to the side of his glove. He would catch a
routine can of corn with flash and flare. And that's
what separated Ricky Henderson. When you see someone do that,
you know what you know in little league or rec
league softball, when someone has a lazy flyball and they
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catch it a little snap down with their glove.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
That's the Ricky flash, the only guy doing.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
That because he was actually he was the hot dog
before baseball allowed you to be a hot dog like
today people that that pimp their home runs and Cadillac
around the base.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Was they in their jersey? Yeah, Steve, they kind of
let it go for Ricky, they absolutely did. He was
the exception. He was the only guy Jaseton. That's a
great point.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
I'm because I picture Ricky because another misconception, Oh fast,
you know a lot of stone bases and hits. Guy
had a ton of home runs for a leadof fit
almost four hundred, I believe, right like three ninety something
three that like ninety seven or ninety nine maybe give
me before Ricky Henderson home run. I think it's like
three ninety seven.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
Like in a lot of ways, like you always hear about,
oh that guy is that guy's old school, Ricky was
way ahead of his time in that nowadays you put
all your power hitters at the top of the order.
Ricky Henderson was a power hitter you put at the
top of the order. He just happened to be fast,
but I.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Mean nothing bad.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
At two seventy nine, I knew that just because I
wanted him to be like that two to eighty guy.
But twenty five years into Big heies broke every stolen
base record possible. Got a little criticism when he said,
you know today, I'm the greatest. Got a little criticism
back then, which is again because.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
It was back then. Now everybody show boats.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Jay Stu made the best point that he was playing
way ahead of his time. The fact that we live
in a world now, and I'm all for it. We
live in a world of staring at your home run
bat flips. I like the world of midjor league baseball,
adding a little flash and a little a little fun.
I like a good bat flip. I like an aggressive picture.
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Then pitching inside. That's part of the game.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
I love. Ricky Henderson is the first guy I could
ever remember.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
I'm picturing him in the batter's box, ripping a home
run and doing like that first hop step to first
base pimp and his shirt.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Yeah, the chain comes out a little bit.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
YEA had that strata, you know, as he rounded the bases.
He had over three thousand hits. He was just a
dominant personality for the world of baseball and one of
my favorite stories. Again, we all have our favorite moments.
I had my favorite baseball cards, my favorite pictures of him.
I have a picture that I kept. I used to
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have it in the frame. What I did, which I've
taken a lot of memorabilia down. I put him in books,
like in a plastic sleeve, right, and have a picture.
You know the rule about memorabilia, Jason, It wasn't autographed.
It's not autographed. You just have a picture of a man.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
On your wall. Yeah, so this is a group of men.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
But I had a picture of like it was Ricky Henderson,
Willie Randolph, Don Manningly, Dave Rughetti, Dave Winfield all in
one photo. And I always loved because I like, these
were my heroes and Ricky Henderson front and center, just
smiling making everybody laugh. That was the other thing with
Ricky Henderson, Tuto Rich, he had all this flair and
all this flash. He backed it up, and he was likable.
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He was beloved by all his teammates, and even if
he was playing against you, you sort of respected him.
No one hated Ricky Henderson the way you could hate
someone as dominant as he was with that much flash.
One of my favorite stories. It's one of the stories
that I'm not sure it's true, but I could see
it happening, but it made me laugh either way. One
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of my favorite stories. Rumor has it, when Ricky Henderson
played for the Mariners in two thousand, he noticed first
baseman John Olrud wore a helmet while playing in the
field instead of a cap. Ricky told him, I used
to play with a guy in the Mets last year
that did that too. Olrud replied, Yeah, that was me, Ricky.
We were teammates on on the Mets last year, if
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that's true. Like, I love that he was so just
Ricky Henderson. And he's played with so many different people
that maybe it didn't register, Like, you know, it's interesting
to know what made that guy tick.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
He was such an old school ballplayer, you know.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
I'm sure he had great relationships, but I'm sure some
of them were just baseball relationship.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
What's crazy about the story you just told us.
Speaker 5 (38:26):
I remember hearing a totally different story, and that's that's
what kind of makes these Ricky Henderson's story is so
weird is you don't know which ones have been exaggerated
or not.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Right.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
I heard that ol Rude played with him and won
a world series with him in the ninety three Blue Jays.
Yeah that's true. That old said, Yeah, we were also
teammates in Toronto, Like there was a there was an
addition to the punchline and the story that I heard.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
So again, you're right, that adds to the legend. Yeah,
that makes more sense. Yeah, it does make more sense.
And I was reading that one off of the internet,
but because I didn't want to like misquote it, I
like your version, Jay Stu better. But when the legend
becomes fact print the legend and he was a legend,
Ricky Henderson. We all know the Ricky story where parently
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in the clubhouse, people are talking about who's batt and
what and batting average, and someone was also talking and
said John John three sixteen, and they quoted the Bible,
and Ricky Henderson said, yeah, I don't want to hear
about John hitting three sixteen, Ricky hitting three thirty. See
that's when I find hard to believe. But I love
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that story too. I don't know if that's true, but.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
And Ricky Henderson also talked in third person and got
away with it. Anyone else under the moon talking third person,
You're like, who's this guy?
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Because they're not Ricky Henderson.
Speaker 5 (39:41):
And speaking of by the way, so Seaton O'Connor, who
has a long time Danette as you've been listening to
him every morning on the show forever, he had a
personal Ricky Henderson's story. This Seaton's Twitter account from Saturday.
I spoke to Ricky Henderson once. It was after he
did an interview on the show, after Dan said goodbye
to him. I picked up the phone and said, hey, Ricky,
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this is Seaton. Seaton just wanted to say thank you
until you. Seaton is a huge fan. And he said back,
tell Seaton. I said, thank you.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Good.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
That's so funny.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
That's funny, I said, did you see the one that's
going around? Harold Reynolds shared the story is a true
one because this is coming from Harold Reynolds. The year
was nineteen eighty seven. Ricky Henderson was dealing with injuries
on the Yankees that year, So it was the one
year where like the one year Ricky didn't lead the
league in stolen bases, he was banged up. Harold Reynolds
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ended the season with sixty stolen bases, the only season
between eighty and ninety one that Ricky didn't win the
stolen based title. He called the Harold Reynolds this phone rings.
He goes, yeah, what's up, rick Man? You ought to
be a shamed saying that sixty was not enough. What
are you talking about, Ricky? Sixty stolen bases? You ought
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to be a shamed. Ricky had sixty at the break
and hangs up his phone.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
Our producer Monday through Friday, producer Danny g you know
the superstar. He hit me up with a meme that
went viral today. He says led Daylon Cruz led MLB
in twenty twenty four with sixty seven steals and was
caught sixteen times at the age of twenty two, So
sixty seven steals, caught sixteen times at twenty two. The
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Ricky Henderson led MLB in ninety eight with sixty six
steals and was caught thirteen times. He was thirty nine
years old.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Man.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Like you know, another another term and expression that we
throw around way too much.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Built different. No, Ricky, You're not built different. That guy
that different. Ricky Henderson was built different. You know.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
He really was that guy everybody else people pretend to
be or wanna be, or we claimed to be, they're
really not. Maybe they are for the moment, for that day,
for that game. Ricky Henderson was that guy for every
team he played for. Speaking of which, yeah, he played
for a lot of teams. Not thirteen teams, thirteen team changes.
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That's a hell of a lot of advice. It is
like four times. Right, there's no way there's a player
in Major League Baseball history. I'm not even need to
look it up. There's no player that has gone to
the same team as many times as Ricky Henderson found
his way back to Oakland. Right, there's no way, dude.
I saw over the weekend a highlight of him in
a Dodger outfit. Yeah, he played his last career home
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run or last base that was his last year.
Speaker 5 (42:36):
I don't even remember him being a Dodger like that's
he was just like on one team a year, half
a year he was a rental player. It was crazy.
He bounced around.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
Let me he had some big moment random teams, Padres.
I believe he hit his uh three thousandth if I'm
not mistaken. Let me let me go through real quick
the teams and tell me if we all remember, because
I feel like you're gonna be like I remember that,
all right? We start with Oakland old school Ricky Oakland,
of course, yeah, with the Yankees, we of course remember that.
Then back to the Oakland A's. That's when he's part
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of that team with McGuire and won World and they
did not McGuire and you know Canseco, I do remember
after that he went to Toronto. I remember that. By
the way, before you skip, I saw Dave Stewart said, like,
by the way, his teammates legends, like so many legends
have come out to say how much he meant to them,
and Dave Stewart being one of them. Yeah, of that
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eighty nine A's squad, and Jose Canseco known for being
a jerk. Look what he I'm gonna find what Jose
can say to save it for next. So then we
went to Toronto. Then we went to Oakland, again. This
is where it starts to get a little dicey, where
he's jumping around the lot San Diego. But I do
remember him as a Padre Angels for a second. Then
back to Oakland. Then he went to the Mets for
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a cup of coffee, you know a year or so,
John O' then Seattle, then San Diego again, the one
that would I would you gave me trivia j Stu,
I would miss this one.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
Boston for a second, and Seattle to me, those are.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
Seattle I might be able to visually place. And then
he went to the Dodgers. I remember how it ended,
but Boston would be the one. If we played on
the road again, I would never have remembered. But then
he played in the minors like he was still grind
in as a ballplayer, because that's who he was. Jose Knsako,
I'm heartbroken and devastated. Ricky Henderson was an incredibly talented player,
but an even better human. I'll never forget the incredible
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memories we created together, memories I'll never forget. Rest easy,
my friend again. Everybody loved this guy. He led by
example
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Yeah, what's going on? Man Covino on Rich and for
the Great DP.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Hey, good morning, buddy, Steve Covino, Rich Davis. Hope you
had a great weekend. Yeah, and Olex sant Ooh, Sicko's
sick Ravens Commander's Vikings bills sort of weekend.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
We're gonna get into it. Rest in peace.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Rickey Henderson of course lost the legend over the weekend,
but hope you.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Enjoyed your holiday parties. Spot still has his ugly Christmas
orter on from all the party and he did this week.
Never took it off the major award. I'm Covino, that
is Rich, Jase Stu on the xylophone. Up, what's up?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Chase Stu and the number eight seven seven nine nine
six six three six nine eight seven seven ninety nine
on Fox Everything at Covino and Rich Now a lot
to get to in the world of the NFL. It
was a big fight over the weekend, two days till Christmas.
I want to start that by two quick things before
over all our observations from week sixteen of the NFL.
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Number one, I watch home alone with my kids. Ah,
they're seven and four. Oh boy, And I think I
had to remind my son, like, yeah, you can't do
that stuff in real life, you know right, Like you
can't throw a paint can at someone's head.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
You can't.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
You can't like fire a lot about your son. Yeah,
you can't like fireworks in a pot.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
You know that, right? Right? Right? Did they think you
played Marv?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
But let me tell you that, I think that's the
difference between a little boy and a little girl as
we lived the dad life because I never had to
have that conversation with my daughter. No, for real, I said,
just so you know, honey, I said to my daughter, well,
you know, if we left you at home, She's like.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Please, don't that.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
My son's like, I think I could get the bad guys.
I'm all right, let's relax, right. But observation number one
over the weekend, besides all the NFL, have you watch
home alone now? As a parent? The mcallis does they
don't really care enough? The mcallisters don't care enough. Did
your New York just kick.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Mcallis? Does don't seem to care enough that they left
their eight year old at home?
Speaker 4 (02:02):
No, you know what would someone pointed out recently and
kind of clicked. Everything's placed on the mother. The dad
really doesn't care, dude, he's on vacation.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
It's like, I'm going to Paris to see my brother
and he's like, yeah, we let.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
The get at home.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
She's probably okay, man, man, wife, I can't believe you
did that.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
When the mom like goes home with John Candy and
the polka ban and everything, the dad shows up right after.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
He's like, hey, we're good. It's like a very Christmas
Look all right, come on, let's get let's go to
the foot.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Just like you had to tell your son rich that
you know this is a movie, I have to tell
you the same. So sounds like he's a chip off
the old blockhead. They're acting. You wouldn't do the same
in real life either. No, I know, but but Jay still,
you mean you can't get electrocuted and live. Hey, if
your son is ever missing, you forgot him somewhere. Don't
(02:51):
act like the dad. I'm just saying. Even at one
point they go send the cops over, some old ass
cop shows up at the mccalisers. He's like, yeah, no,
one's answering. Guess the kid's Okay, I guess so's everyone
at the airport. Our son's stuck at home. Well, I
gotta get somewhere. I'm not giving you my flight like
everything about it. Oh yeah, it's a comedy, obviously, obviously, guys, yeah,
(03:13):
that would be the most frantic situation. Rich and I
have joked for years the second your kid doesn't come
out of a jumpy jump playhouse, You're like, where are they?
It's the most panicky feeling that ever was, especially when
it's on dad's watch. You go to the playground, your
kid goes down a slide, they don't pop out.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
The other endroid.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Seriously, I've started crawling through like Chuck E Cheese playhouses
just trying to find my kid out of panic, and
my kid's like that, I'm right here, what's up. It's
the scariest, the scariest feeling in the world is when
you can't find your kid. Obviously, you know they'd be
freaking out.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
In real life.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
That was observation number one, and we're gonna watch a
second one tonight.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I think they're the perfect eight for Home Alone and
Home Alone two. Well, you know, the dad could be
in a loose sort of fella I could be that
at times he didn't like his son so much. Who knows.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
I remember my sister went missing when we were little kids.
Actually that happened a few times. I've seen my parents
freak out for one sister and not for another. But
I remember we were in Disney World Epcot Center, and
you know how you do the little trip around the world.
We lost one of my siblings in country. We lost
her in like Mexico, somewhere, I don't know. I forget
(04:25):
where we were Jays two, but I remember as a
like a teen, like preteen, maybe thirteen years old, fourteen
years old, I went with the whole family. I remember
thinking like she ruined the whole day. That's all I
cared about.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
Well, I remember the worst five minutes, probably of my wife,
definitely of my parenthood. Me and my six year old
son are walking out of a busy Dodger game. Okay,
for whatever reason, we stopped holding hands. I look around
and he's nowhere to be seen. The most frantic oh,
(04:58):
I was about to have a heart attack. My flip
phone at the time starts to ring. My six year
old was smart enough to go up to the security
guard say I've lost my dad. This is his phone
number that I memorized.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Wow, dude, my daughter. Now, I guarantee you that's great.
What a nice story.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Look at that.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
It's probably end one.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
That so just a reminder if you watch Trouble one,
it's not realistic. Monister didn't have a cell phone back then,
Little Kevin. It was nineteen ninety. Hey, kid, Yeah they did,
and they so casually didn't care that Joe Peschi was
in their house in the beginning, like a cop just
stop by. Yes, I saw a funny ass meme over
the weekend. It was knock knock, knocking on Kevin's door.
(05:43):
It's a picture of Joe Peschi. It's funny. So now
observation number two. Last night, my father in law's in town.
Everyone went to sleep except him and I so a little,
you know, a little hang with my wife's dad, and
neither one of us had started watching the Aaron Rodgers
Enigma documentary.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
And I don't know what it was.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
I'm such a sucker because I watched episode one and
I actually have some type of like positive feelings for
Aaron Rodgers, Like there's a part of me I was like, man,
is he misunderstood? Is he like, not not the guy
I thought he was, Like, I think this documentary is
convincing me. After one episode, I'm like, by the third episode,
(06:25):
you'll be saying of him. In the first one, for sure,
I could see how you would say he's just a
misunderstood guy. He just wants to win. He grew up
a ninersand they didn't draft him. His parents seem like
they suck, and you know, he got hurt on the
fourth play last year, and that's not the path he
clearly wanted to try to. I felt the same way
(06:45):
about Mark Gastineau in that Jets thirty for thirty, because
all the trailers led up for you to think that.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
This guy's a problem. He's an ale that's why he's
not in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
But then you start to hear about his childhood a
little bit, and you're like, yeah, he's just a misunderstood guy.
There's a lot of misunderstood people. Doesn't give you the
right to be a jo As my dad would say,
I don't.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
Know, jaseon, did you watch The Enigma? I watched the
entire thing. A couple of takeaways, Okay, I liked Aaron
Rodgers going in I'm one of the few guys that
actually like what he's all about. And I think that
I don't think the public appreciates that we have a quarterback,
uh basically who was at the top of his game,
who as was as controversial and said as much as
Aaron does. I don't think I think we'll appreciate it
(07:31):
when when it's all over. Yeah, but my takeaway from
the doc was this the whole ayahuasca thing, Steve, especially
in the third episode, right, the whole ayahuasca thing is
to get away and to disconnect and to find yourself.
And what I've found kind of contradicting about the whole thing.
They let cameras in multi cameras in to film this thing,
and it's like you're documenting something that, by nature is
(07:54):
supposed to be something to disconnect from from all the technology.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Right.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah, No, it's a really weird thing to see. And
that's also why he's misunderstood Rich. It's also conventional, to
unconventional to see an athlete behave the way he behaves
and to be such a hippie, dippy guy, you know,
in that way. We're not used to seeing that. And
I forget who said this I wish I can credit them.
Someone said it it was like on an SNY network
(08:21):
it looked like our old s and y set Rich.
He's always been sort of smug, sort of arrogant Aaron Rodgers, right,
but he matched that in his gameplay, and that's the difference.
Now he just does not, so he's gonna get the hate.
Like if he was smug and had this cocky attitude
about him, but he was winning all the time, and
he was winning Mvps're like, alright, I guess.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
He's Aaron Rodgers man. Wow.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
But when you have that same attitude about yourself and
you're more outspoken, you have all these platforms and you're
under delivering where everyone thought you were gonna be the savior.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I know you said. It's like a hot girl.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
If she's got a little attitude, some people are like,
it's okay, But if she got fat, they'd be like,
all right, you can't have that attitude anymore.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Got the attitude.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
It was cute at the beginning when she was a
smoke show, but as time went on, you're like.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
You know what, all this stuff I liked about her
kind of hate it now. It could only be jolly
if you're fast, so it's a little bit of that.
It's a little bit of that too.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
And you know he's gotten a voice and you hear
it a lot, so he could rub you the wrong way.
I'm with Jay stew though, I was never one of
those guys that hated Aaron Rodgers at all. So you
know what, interestingly enough, I know we all know this.
I'm not breaking the glass. Were all sports fans. But
you gotta remember, he thought he was going to be
arguably the number one pick for the team he grew
(09:38):
up watching. You know, here's a guy that had to
go to a local college before he even went to
cal Yeah, he has a chip on every step of
the way. He was sort of overlooked, and god, he
was the nerdiest looking kid.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Bangs.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
No one told me this.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
No one told me that Aaron Rodgers had like a
Caesar like bangs, haircut like.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Keith d Like, what was that? I mean, it was
the time. So he was a goofy looking dude, got
overlooked every step of the way. Thought he was.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
They took Alex Smith for reference, they thought, and by
the way, he was a good NFL quarterback.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Alex Smith but thought he'd be going to the forty
nine ers, and then waited around, waited around, and just.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Added to that chip on it, but embarrassingly waited around.
And then you get drafted by a small market Midwest
team who has Bret Farth.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
So every step of the way sort of was a
hassle for this guy.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Then he found his way, and you're right, I really
do think I haven't started episode two or three, but
I feel like the narrative for this dude changed when
he started talking about vaccines. And that never bothered me
about him, because I'm like, I wasn't hung up on
the whole is the immunizer who cares? I didn't really
care at the time his little lie, But I feel
(10:50):
like that changed the complete narrative and everyone just turned
on him.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
That was it. I think that was the real start
of the hate.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Right, he either liked him or he didn't, a big deal,
But then you really started to hate the guy because
of him misleading people on whether or not he was vaccinated.
So really interesting. You start episode two tonight. I'm gonna
watch it tonight, But it was it was a good
show to watch with my father in law because I was.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Like, what was his takeaway.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
That's what I'm always c's I think, what did you
think he's a Packers fan?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah, so you know he's like he loves Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
A game of Super Bowl and then him and I
had that conversation of Wow, Brett fav Aaron Rodgers. Now
Jordan love. They got three in a row. They there
should be more than two super Bowls to show for.
You know what bothers me the most, Jay Stu, Fox
Sports Radio Nation again, Covino and Rich and for the
great DP day one of the Dan Patrick Hatrick, I.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Mean, and also a very special day.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Today's a holiday as well, and we're gonna celebrate Fest
of Us in just a little bit. And Mary's here
running things. Was up Mary, So we're gonna marry. We're
gonna have some fun today. What bothers me is he's
tarnishing his own legacy at this point. That does bother me,
you know, because we're gonna look back at these jetsiers.
If he doesn't do something to turn it around, I
(12:07):
can't imagine what could happen. You're always gonna look that
stigma really never goes away. He was great you have
with those Jets sies. Can I hate that for a
great player, even if I was a fan of them
or not, I always hate that. And it's like, dude,
you had such a great career, like you were a
great one. And then to end on this note, this
(12:27):
misery with the Jets, Dude, they're terrible.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
They're worse with.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Him, like this sort of stigma that hurts me as
a as a sports fan.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
You know what, though, I think his journey of enlightenment,
which is what I'll call it, is much like Mike Tyson.
I think, you know how Mike Tyson speaks about his
legacy and doesn't really care what other people.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Think about.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Had no ego, like I'm gonna die After I die,
What do I care what people think about me? I
really think that's where Aaron Rodgers is headed at this time.
I believe I don't think he cares at all what
other people think about him.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
At this point, I say, I think that's the the
question that's left after you watch all three episodes. I
think that's one of the questions that we all have
to kind of deal with. Does he care? Because that's
the big contradiction. He'll he doesn't care, but I think
he I think he watches and reads everything that is
said about him, but I really do.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
And if he gives off the vibe that he doesn't care,
why do you care? Because I'm a.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Sports fan, That's why, and that's how Why do you
Because that's how we measure sports, wins, losses, victory stats,
that's how we measure it.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
But creating about in the world doesn't care. Why do
you care about him?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Because anything in life though, I mean the don't care
about anything, fo you don't care about.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Anything, doesn't Just the last week contradict that I don't care.
This whole thing with Ryan Clark is Aaron Rodgers really
caring what Ryan Clark said and taking shots at him
and then back and forth. So it's like, that's kind
of the contradiction in the guy. There's actually a lot
of contradictions, but that's what makes him interesting.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
He's a super sensitive guy.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
He admits that in the docuseriies Enigma Rich. I'm excited
for you to see the rest of it to get
your full analysis.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I'm late to the party.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
I know.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
I feel like I'm the guy that went to the
theater to watch the movie like a month after everyone else.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
But I was like, finally the right time.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
You know, you end up watching a bunch of the
holiday stuff, and there's a lot of There was a
lot of games, college football games. Finally I'm like, all right,
let's sit down and watch. And I was shocked because
I did you and your father in law set an
appointment up for your next diyahuasca?
Speaker 2 (14:25):
No, No, I think I'll just have it edible way.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I no, Rich, I think this is something you and
I should investigate, bring us closer together.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Why ask, let's go No.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
But you know, my other takeaway for Aaron Rodgers was
a lot of times when you watch these stories and
I'll end on this because there's so much of damn stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
To get to.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
There was a lot of great football over the weekend,
and we got more football in a couple of days.
I think the takeaway for me is when I'm watching
Last Dance about Michael Jordan, when I'm watching Man in
the Arena, Tom Brader, I'm watching if I'm watching any
docuseries the on Netflix, the O four, Red, Sox Fantastic,
(15:07):
you see the struggle, but then there's.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
The payoff when you see him going through rehab.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
And by the way, want too many pictures of his foot,
like enough oiling up of his ankle on foot.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
But when I'm watching the.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Aaron Rodgers Enigma and he's talking about how he's got
so much more left, and the reality is that hasn't happened.
It's like a documentary where I'm like, where's like if
the ending was and then he went to the Jets
and made it to the playoffs or won a Super Bowl,
then it's a documentary. This is like it opened end
to the documentaries, Like it's like watching Lebamba. You're like,
(15:40):
I know how this ends.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
It's terrible.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Do you guys remember the doc Do you remember the
doc Free Solo? It won an Oscar? It was the
guy that went up El Capatown. Well, I remember seeing
the oscars and him him being there alive to receive
the Oscar. And then I watched the doc afterwards, like
the whole the holes. I guess while you're watching it,
(16:03):
the whole thing is like you're seeing the guy who
could die at any second, right, but you know he
lives because he accepted that oscar. Yeah, So I wish
I had said it before I knew that.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
So I feel that way. I'm like because in the documentary. Again,
it's filmed mostly during the year where he was injured.
So what does he say in the whole time?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Kavi?
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Now, the whole time, he's like, well, we're gonna put
twenty three twenty four behind us, and we're gonna look
forward to twenty four to twenty five.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
And I'm like, I know what happens. It's not good.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Aaron gat like what saviorself like, don't And then now
you're thinking, after this terrible campaign of a season, what
lies ahead for Aaron Rodgers retirement.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
I feel like I'm.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Glad Jay stew back me up, back me up a
little bit in that he came across as like I
didn't hate him, because there's a lot of Aaron Rodgers haters.
I watched episode one and my feeling was, oh, man,
it's a bummer. You know, every step of the way
he had a battle and he only won one Super
Bowl for as good as he is, and now he
thought he was gonna prove everyone wrong, and they play
(17:04):
all the talking head stuff from Fox Sports people to
ESPN people. When he joined the Jets, it was like
people like Greenie were like, it's a rebirth New York.
The Jets are turning it around and to know where
we are now. You're watching a documentary, like I said,
with with not a happy ending? What was that rom
comm spot that we used to joke about had the worst?
It was like My Black Book or something, my Little
(17:26):
Black Book. There was one rom com I watched I
remember with like an X back of the Day and
the ending wasn't they like didn't get together? I could Yeah, No,
what about the one with Vince Fallen and Jennifer Aniston
The BREAKUPA break you were thinking, like you're like, oh,
by the way, tap tap tap, what is it? Reppy
tap teppy? Come come on the kids trump. That was
(17:49):
a great movie. But spoiler, they don't get together in
the end. It's sort of like it's a breakup. It
is called the breakup. He's a happy ending, So like
you know, it's no one's watching. It's like that's the thing.
Not everything's a happy end. But I'm saying this is
the this is a miserable ending. Your team doesn't get you.
Remember the old Remember the old DVD you would buy
if your team won a championship, like the Year in Review. Yeah,
(18:10):
they don't sell Year in Reviews for the teams that
don't do anything. I feel you're watching that for Aaron
Rodgers and the Jets.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
No, we are, unfortunately. All right, Well, I'm glad you
turned me on to it.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
I know everyone probably has watched it already, but you know,
there's a lot of holiday stuff going on.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
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Speaker 2 (19:29):
Media that's Covino and Rich.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Now it is time for something that goes down every
December twenty third, thanks to Frank Costanza, and it's called Festivus.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
The point of Festivsts. Take a listen.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
The tradition of Festivus begins with the airing of Gravances.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I got a lot of problems with your people. Now
you've been to hear about it.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
All right, break out the Festivus, Paul, And here's where
you let us know what the hell annoyed you over
the last twelve months, in the world of sports, in
the world of entertainment, music, anything, what bothered the hell
out of you?
Speaker 2 (20:06):
In twenty twenty four, it's your turn.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Aside from you and your hyperactivity, I'm a delight jay
Stu last night. I'll tell you what bothered me. Rich
calling me out last night. He often calls me with
no purpose, and it's like, that's what you called me for.
You could have texted me that. That makes me angry
and I want to air that grievance.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yeah, text me.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
This is why I sit there bewildered, Like that's why
he called me? Was he bored on his ride home?
Is he on the ball? That was a total text?
Are you just like seeing if I was alive? What
was the point and purpose of that now? Twenty years ago?
Speaker 5 (20:41):
That's fine, right, right, right? But I want to get
this right. Gary Goleman is one of my favorite comedy
love comedians. Okay, he said he has this bit and
it's perfect. The phone is simply an app on my
phone and if you're gonna use it a better count.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
I love Gary. I love Gary, Gary Goleman. Shout out
to Gary. I call him a system of a goldman
now or gulman of a down. Have you seen him lately?
It's like surge from system of a down. He grew
out like this long goatee and everything my grievances have
to do with Rich. Actually, no, he calls me last
(21:18):
night and he starts to mansplain what Festivus is. He's like, hey,
I got a great idea for tomorrow. Tomorrow's the twenty third.
He's like, how about we do Festivus and let people
air their grievances in the world. The sports are just
life or whatever. I was like, that's great, and then
he continues to explain to me what it is. As
(21:39):
if I haven't talked to the guy for twenty years,
you're also you're also the guy that's like, never really
watched Seinfeld, I'm aware of pop culture references. Who hasn't
seen that or heard the reference by now?
Speaker 4 (21:52):
I also feel like we talk about it every year
because it's become a pop culture thing in the last
few years.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
You guys know, this doesn't have to be about what
you hate about me.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
I had a pause.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
First of all, this is clip on our show. We
joke about it.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
I didn't mind that he called me to let's talk
about what we're gonna do on DP tomorrow. That that's
an important conversation to me. But when he goes on
explaining what Festivus is, I'm like, you mean, what we've
talked about for twenty years to get that, and.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
We're going to make him cry.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
By th way, when Rich calls you, by the way,
never have a follow up question because he'll get bored
and hang up on you.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Guys hate about me? No, no, here.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Here's the other thing with Rich when he calls is
all sense of urgency, right, But when you call him,
he's nowhere to be found for like, so he oh
my god, what he dimmoned? Your wife's just disappear? So, hey,
where's Rich together? I guess he's busy. So anyway, grievans.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
By the way, Cavino, on top of your grievance, I
could add the fact that he called you to talk
about today's show without looping me.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yet we're talking about the show tomorrow. We might as
well add the producer. You know, that would have been
a smart thing to do. They talk about you, that's why.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
But a little like nugget of something then, so I'm like,
are you man explaining to me right now as if
I don't know what it is? And he's like yeah,
but I figured, he goes, well, if you know, what's
the second part of it? And I was like, I
don't know. Having the pole the festival bowl. I didn't
know the second part, so I'll give you that. Can
you explain what the feats of strength?
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Yeah? Are you doing that as well?
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Down since we're talking festivals, can you at least explain
the Seinfeld reference?
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Yeah, the the origins.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
It was an I mean, if you want me to
man explaining to dummies like you know the second part though,
because I remember hearing it, but I don't really know
what the feats.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Of Many years ago, I went to the store. I
purchased a doll for my son.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Yeah, take as many Christmases ago, I went to buy
a doll for my son.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
I reached for the last one they had, but so
did another man.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
As I rain.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Blows upon him, I realized that had to be another way.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
What happened to the doll?
Speaker 4 (23:56):
It was destroyed, But out of that, oh Holiday was
born a Festivus for the rest of us.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
That must have been some kind of doll she was.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
So it's as day that I know what are the
feats of strength? Based on his uh fighting for the doll.
You have to that's really where it comes from. Okay, So,
Mike Grievance has had nothing to do with you until
you went it may and now I have a million
of them. Let's start with you thinking the Yankees pinstripes
mean anything they do to the fans, they do to
(24:32):
anyone over thirty five. My number one grievance is that
I think it's funny. In fact, I think it makes
you guys look lame. The fact that the Yankees still
have this no facial hair rule. I see every headshot
of Paul Goldschmidt like a handsome late thirties guy. It's
gonna have to look like a baby face nerd because
(24:53):
the Yankees were shave your stumble, how outdated. Poor Devin
Williams's gonna have to come out of the bullpen with
you know, Raisin burn because he has to shave before
he closes out the game, first time in six years
that he has to be clean shaven. Yeah, that's that's
kind of tough. Here's why. Here's you know what, rich,
I agree that the Yankees have a tradition. I agree
(25:15):
that maybe it's pasted right. Sometimes tradition is making the
same mistake over and over again, and maybe in today's
world that doesn't fly. But I think there's a middle ground,
Like there's a compromise. You can't come in looking like
a hobo, but maybe you come in and still have
long hair, just well groomed. Yeah, I'm gonna say it
looks like a red sox. But like you know, compromise
(25:36):
a little bit. But it got me thinking that Devin
Williams situation. He hasn't shaved in six years. What if
he's covering up a a week chin. Or maybe he
does get that razor burn that some people get. For
all we know he has some frog eggs under there
and he doesn't want to really expose that. Maybe that
takes away from his confidence. I want this guy to
feel confident on the mound. Sometimes you feel good, you
(25:57):
play good. Somebody once said that Jerry Rice exactly. It
was Jerry right. So you know what, Rich I believe
in looking your best and presenting your best, unlike you
who wear sweatpants to work every day. Just kidding, but
I do believe that it's an outdated rule, man. I
do I think they have to adjust it. I am
wearing sweatpants right now. Your grievances, I got one at eight, seven, seven,
(26:19):
nine nine on Fox.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
What else he had? I open it up to you.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Fox Sports Radio Dan Patrick Nation eight seven seven ninety
nine Fox eight at Covino and Rich our boys spot
here who does our videos? Again at Covino and Rich
and he produces our Patreon if you want to check
that out. He pointed this out and broke the glass
to me. But since then I despise it. It's the
(26:44):
jabbroni on social media whose sole purpose is just to
point at the content. It's like, what are you contributing
to this video and to my life?
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Get out of my face?
Speaker 3 (26:54):
And if you don't know what I'm talking about, it's
a video about drones or a video about aliens or
Aaron Rodgers. And all this ask Plan is doing is
pointing at someone else's content, right, He's pointing. So I've
taken upon myself to tell these people, you know, because
they usually pose it with a question or something like
(27:15):
and what do you think I think I'd understand more
if you point it a little more at literally pointing
would have done me a lot better.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
In this video, I'm.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Pointing at Kavino as he's making this point post that
video that to me millions of views, you're offering nothing
to the world, and I want to karate kick you
in the sternum. Yeah, and what it annoways be is
usually the pointer gets more views than the original.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
That really bothers you if you know what I'm talking about. Okay,
that's a huge problem on Twitter.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Now that we pointed it out, though on a national scale,
on a huge platform, the Dan Patrick Show, millions of
people are gonna be like, you know what, I hate
that guy too, Send him all the hate in the world.
Tell them to get a life, get a life, get
a life. Content, Chase, do I know one of your
professional pointer one of Chase do His pep peeves is
the people that are shocked that time is moving along.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
It is.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
It's my favorite one. And I don't even know if
it's a pet peeve. Is that it's just I like
making fun of unsophisticated, unoriginal people. And if you're if
you're partaking in small talk, if you walk into an
ovator with a bunch of strangers, I think it's easy
just to go to those low hanging fruit small talk things. Man,
it's already it's already Christmas. Could you believe it exactly?
(28:27):
It was just Christmas yesterday.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
I hate those people too, because I'm not good at it.
I hate I'm allergic to small talk.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Oh but can I add a little nugget to the
premise then, man, time's a flying. But my theory is this,
and it really bothers me, so I'll air my grievance.
I feel like after COVID the world has been on
fast forward and I can't wrap my head around the schedule.
After COVID, I feel like we're in a time warp
and something happened and times moving way too fast. Something
(28:55):
happened after COVID, where I was never the same in
my perception of time is off. Like everything pre COVID
is different to me than after COVID, and after COVID.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Is twenty twenty five. Already that bothers me. I'm gonna
air my grievance. It sounds like long COVID. It sounds
like long I think you.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Still have long COVID. I think, yeah, maybe I do. Honestly,
you share this sentiment. There's a big trend on social
media now where mostly like millennials, a lot of people
in their thirties are saying that they feel as though
again post COVID is like a weird world for them. Well,
I think the sentiment you're seeing a lot as a
(29:35):
my I on social media, as people saying that they've
never they've the feeling of happiness hasn't been the same,
like the spark of.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Life has been different. Interesting.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
I have one more now and then we'll take all
of your feedback. I hate, you know, people talking about
Lebron versus Michael Jordan. We say that's the most like
eye rolly, weak ass goats sports debate, like.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Jordan or Lebron.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
I feel like one of there's a debate that bothers
me even more, and it's is Diehard a Christmas movie?
Speaker 2 (30:10):
I just feel like it's it's the Jase do.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
I'd rather someone say, man, Tom's flying in an elevator
then then ask someone, hey, what's your favorite Christmas movie?
And it's instead of having instead of having a real
answer like oh, it's a.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Wonderful life for Elf or oh, Christmas vacation. You know,
I'm a big fan of Love.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Actually, when someone's like Diehard, I'm like, oh my god,
how masculine are you trying to appear? I agree with
die Hard. And by the way, fun fact it was
released in July.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
It's not a Christmas as we said recently.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
It's the fact, but it's it's the fact that the
person saying that acts as if you didn't ever hear
before that, you know, diehards a Christmas movie, like, oh
really never heard that one before?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
That's what makes it a Christmas.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
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Speaker 2 (31:06):
Wapp Uh you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Ricky Henderson, the late great Ricky sixty five years old,
complications from pneumonia.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Is there any update or is that where is That's
where we're at.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Right No, man, But it did start with some speculation
because Dave Winfield, former teammate, Hall of Famer legend Dave Winfield,
posted that he was truly upset, couldn't believe, still couldn't
believe that he had to deal with the passing of
his longtime friend Ricky Henderson. And then that put everyone
on this search like what Ricky Henderson?
Speaker 2 (31:38):
And it was nowhere to be seen.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
The family hadn't announced anything, It wasn't on TMZ or
any news outlet. I know you did you and of
course you went to X you went to TMS that
you went everywhere, and then you googled news Ricky and
nothing comes up.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
And then later that day it started to come out,
and you're like, no way, man, Ricky Henderson.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
You know people throw around, this is one takeaway people
throw around. Oh he was one of a kind. Oh man,
he was one of the great ones. They throw that
stuff around way too much, because then how do you
describe a Ricky Henderson.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Give me a break. He's arguably the greatest.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
If not all around greatest player we've ever seen, greatest
leadoff hitter of multy five years in the big leagues.
And talk about characters, right, so many takeaways, so many moments,
And I have one of my favorite quotes. The thing is,
sometimes the legend becomes fact. A lot of these stories
aren't true, but you want him to be true. Some
(32:38):
of them are true. But I'll never forget as a
Yankees fan just seeing Ricky Henderson knowing he was in Oakland, A.
And there's no debate there. He's an Oakland A. He's
a Bay Area legend. But he played five sweet years
with the Yankees and in the prime time of my
(32:59):
fandom growing up, when I was a kid, when you
saw how this dude played and he saw him steel bases.
You saw how he looked in a uniform. One of
my first takeaways was, my goodness, he looks like a
running back in pinstripes. Chiseled stone, chiseled at a stone
like you saw. This sounds corny, but I'm sure Mary
wouldn't recognize this or know this. Mary's a little younger,
(33:21):
Like you saw his quads through the uniform, Like you
saw how like built he Back in the day when
we were kids, people that played baseball looked like Keith
Hernandez and Ozzie Smith, like you were like dad bod
sort of.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
And Ricky Henderson was the one guy where you're like,
he must work out.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
You're like, this dude is chiseled, and you saw his
leg muscles through the uniform. You really did, And you
saw how he played the game he didn't see. And
I don't think a lot of people talk about this,
but I think everybody knows it. One of my first
observations as a child, because we would mimic it was
(34:00):
not only his batting stance, but when he would snap
a fly ball a pop out, he would snap it
to the side of his glove. He would catch a
routine can of corn with flash and flare. And that's
what separated Ricky Henderson. When you see someone do that,
you know what you know in little league or rec
league softball, when someone has a lazy flyball and they
(34:20):
catch it a little snap down with their glove.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
That's the Ricky flash, the only guy doing.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
That because he was actually he was the hot dog
before baseball allowed you to be a hot dog like
today people that that pimp their home runs and Cadillac
around the base.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Was they in their jersey? Yeah, Steve, they kind of
let it go for Ricky, they absolutely did. He was
the exception. He was the only guy Jaseton. That's a
great point.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
I'm because I picture Ricky because another misconception, Oh fast,
you know a lot of stone bases and hits. Guy
had a ton of home runs for a leadof fit
almost four hundred, I believe, right like three ninety something
three that like ninety seven or ninety nine maybe give
me before Ricky Henderson home run. I think it's like
three ninety seven.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
Like in a lot of ways, like you always hear about,
oh that guy is that guy's old school, Ricky was
way ahead of his time in that nowadays you put
all your power hitters at the top of the order.
Ricky Henderson was a power hitter you put at the
top of the order. He just happened to be fast,
but I.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Mean nothing bad.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
At two seventy nine, I knew that just because I
wanted him to be like that two to eighty guy.
But twenty five years into Big heies broke every stolen
base record possible. Got a little criticism when he said,
you know today, I'm the greatest. Got a little criticism
back then, which is again because.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
It was back then. Now everybody show boats.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Jay Stu made the best point that he was playing
way ahead of his time. The fact that we live
in a world now, and I'm all for it. We
live in a world of staring at your home run
bat flips. I like the world of midjor league baseball,
adding a little flash and a little a little fun.
I like a good bat flip. I like an aggressive picture.
(36:06):
Then pitching inside. That's part of the game.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
I love. Ricky Henderson is the first guy I could
ever remember.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
I'm picturing him in the batter's box, ripping a home
run and doing like that first hop step to first
base pimp and his shirt.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Yeah, the chain comes out a little bit.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
YEA had that strata, you know, as he rounded the bases.
He had over three thousand hits. He was just a
dominant personality for the world of baseball and one of
my favorite stories. Again, we all have our favorite moments.
I had my favorite baseball cards, my favorite pictures of him.
I have a picture that I kept. I used to
(36:43):
have it in the frame. What I did, which I've
taken a lot of memorabilia down. I put him in books,
like in a plastic sleeve, right, and have a picture.
You know the rule about memorabilia, Jason, It wasn't autographed.
It's not autographed. You just have a picture of a man.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
On your wall. Yeah, so this is a group of men.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
But I had a picture of like it was Ricky Henderson,
Willie Randolph, Don Manningly, Dave Rughetti, Dave Winfield all in
one photo. And I always loved because I like, these
were my heroes and Ricky Henderson front and center, just
smiling making everybody laugh. That was the other thing with
Ricky Henderson, Tuto Rich, he had all this flair and
all this flash. He backed it up, and he was likable.
(37:21):
He was beloved by all his teammates, and even if
he was playing against you, you sort of respected him.
No one hated Ricky Henderson the way you could hate
someone as dominant as he was with that much flash.
One of my favorite stories. It's one of the stories
that I'm not sure it's true, but I could see
it happening, but it made me laugh either way. One
(37:41):
of my favorite stories. Rumor has it, when Ricky Henderson
played for the Mariners in two thousand, he noticed first
baseman John Olrud wore a helmet while playing in the
field instead of a cap. Ricky told him, I used
to play with a guy in the Mets last year
that did that too. Olrud replied, Yeah, that was me, Ricky.
We were teammates on on the Mets last year, if
(38:05):
that's true. Like, I love that he was so just
Ricky Henderson. And he's played with so many different people
that maybe it didn't register, Like, you know, it's interesting
to know what made that guy tick.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
He was such an old school ballplayer, you know.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
I'm sure he had great relationships, but I'm sure some
of them were just baseball relationship.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
What's crazy about the story you just told us.
Speaker 5 (38:26):
I remember hearing a totally different story, and that's that's
what kind of makes these Ricky Henderson's story is so
weird is you don't know which ones have been exaggerated
or not.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Right.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
I heard that ol Rude played with him and won
a world series with him in the ninety three Blue Jays.
Yeah that's true. That old said, Yeah, we were also
teammates in Toronto, Like there was a there was an
addition to the punchline and the story that I heard.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
So again, you're right, that adds to the legend. Yeah,
that makes more sense. Yeah, it does make more sense.
And I was reading that one off of the internet,
but because I didn't want to like misquote it, I
like your version, Jay Stu better. But when the legend
becomes fact print the legend and he was a legend,
Ricky Henderson. We all know the Ricky story where parently
(39:07):
in the clubhouse, people are talking about who's batt and
what and batting average, and someone was also talking and
said John John three sixteen, and they quoted the Bible,
and Ricky Henderson said, yeah, I don't want to hear
about John hitting three sixteen, Ricky hitting three thirty. See
that's when I find hard to believe. But I love
(39:27):
that story too. I don't know if that's true, but.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
And Ricky Henderson also talked in third person and got
away with it. Anyone else under the moon talking third person,
You're like, who's this guy?
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Because they're not Ricky Henderson.
Speaker 5 (39:41):
And speaking of by the way, so Seaton O'Connor, who
has a long time Danette as you've been listening to
him every morning on the show forever, he had a
personal Ricky Henderson's story. This Seaton's Twitter account from Saturday.
I spoke to Ricky Henderson once. It was after he
did an interview on the show, after Dan said goodbye
to him. I picked up the phone and said, hey, Ricky,
(40:01):
this is Seaton. Seaton just wanted to say thank you
until you. Seaton is a huge fan. And he said back,
tell Seaton. I said, thank you.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Good.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
That's so funny.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
That's funny, I said, did you see the one that's
going around? Harold Reynolds shared the story is a true
one because this is coming from Harold Reynolds. The year
was nineteen eighty seven. Ricky Henderson was dealing with injuries
on the Yankees that year, So it was the one
year where like the one year Ricky didn't lead the
league in stolen bases, he was banged up. Harold Reynolds
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ended the season with sixty stolen bases, the only season
between eighty and ninety one that Ricky didn't win the
stolen based title. He called the Harold Reynolds this phone rings.
He goes, yeah, what's up, rick Man? You ought to
be a shamed saying that sixty was not enough. What
are you talking about, Ricky? Sixty stolen bases? You ought
(40:55):
to be a shamed. Ricky had sixty at the break
and hangs up his phone.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
Our producer Monday through Friday, producer Danny g you know
the superstar. He hit me up with a meme that
went viral today. He says led Daylon Cruz led MLB
in twenty twenty four with sixty seven steals and was
caught sixteen times at the age of twenty two, So
sixty seven steals, caught sixteen times at twenty two. The
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Ricky Henderson led MLB in ninety eight with sixty six
steals and was caught thirteen times. He was thirty nine
years old.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Man.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Like you know, another another term and expression that we
throw around way too much.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Built different. No, Ricky, You're not built different. That guy
that different. Ricky Henderson was built different. You know.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
He really was that guy everybody else people pretend to
be or wanna be, or we claimed to be, they're
really not. Maybe they are for the moment, for that day,
for that game. Ricky Henderson was that guy for every
team he played for. Speaking of which, yeah, he played
for a lot of teams. Not thirteen teams, thirteen team changes.
(42:12):
That's a hell of a lot of advice. It is
like four times. Right, there's no way there's a player
in Major League Baseball history. I'm not even need to
look it up. There's no player that has gone to
the same team as many times as Ricky Henderson found
his way back to Oakland. Right, there's no way, dude.
I saw over the weekend a highlight of him in
a Dodger outfit. Yeah, he played his last career home
(42:34):
run or last base that was his last year.
Speaker 5 (42:36):
I don't even remember him being a Dodger like that's
he was just like on one team a year, half
a year he was a rental player. It was crazy.
He bounced around.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
Let me he had some big moment random teams, Padres.
I believe he hit his uh three thousandth if I'm
not mistaken. Let me let me go through real quick
the teams and tell me if we all remember, because
I feel like you're gonna be like I remember that,
all right? We start with Oakland old school Ricky Oakland,
of course, yeah, with the Yankees, we of course remember that.
Then back to the Oakland A's. That's when he's part
(43:05):
of that team with McGuire and won World and they
did not McGuire and you know Canseco, I do remember
after that he went to Toronto. I remember that. By
the way, before you skip, I saw Dave Stewart said, like,
by the way, his teammates legends, like so many legends
have come out to say how much he meant to them,
and Dave Stewart being one of them. Yeah, of that
(43:28):
eighty nine A's squad, and Jose Canseco known for being
a jerk. Look what he I'm gonna find what Jose
can say to save it for next. So then we
went to Toronto. Then we went to Oakland, again. This
is where it starts to get a little dicey, where
he's jumping around the lot San Diego. But I do
remember him as a Padre Angels for a second. Then
back to Oakland. Then he went to the Mets for
(43:50):
a cup of coffee, you know a year or so,
John O' then Seattle, then San Diego again, the one
that would I would you gave me trivia j Stu,
I would miss this one.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
Boston for a second, and Seattle to me, those are.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
Seattle I might be able to visually place. And then
he went to the Dodgers. I remember how it ended,
but Boston would be the one. If we played on
the road again, I would never have remembered. But then
he played in the minors like he was still grind
in as a ballplayer, because that's who he was. Jose Knsako,
I'm heartbroken and devastated. Ricky Henderson was an incredibly talented player,
but an even better human. I'll never forget the incredible
(44:27):
memories we created together, memories I'll never forget. Rest easy,
my friend again. Everybody loved this guy. He led by
example
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