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July 12, 2025 59 mins

Covino & Rich are in for Dan Patrick on Monday and the competitive eating G.O.A.T., Joey Chestnut joins the guys as they react to his retunr to the Nathan's Hot Dog Eating Contest and winning his 17th trophy! Dan Patrick finishes out the week live in Lake Tahoe. Los Angeles Rams WR Davante Adams joins the show and talks about his transition to Los Angeles now that he’s playing for the Rams. NBA Hall of Famer Charles Barkley delivers some trademark Barkley stories from his time in the NBA and shares why he believes coaching matters today more than ever.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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five to seven on the East. But always a pleasure
to wake up right and early. You know it, buddy

(00:26):
for DP, It's an honor to film for Dan Patrick.
And shout out to the dan Etts, Fritzy and Malvin.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
And all our pals. We appreciate you guys letting us
sit in.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
It's funny because every time I think of Dan Patrick,
which is often, now we got this guy lined up.
Do we have mister Joey chestnutt on standby waiting to
just say hi. He'll be here in a couple of minutes.
I got some listener questions too, curious to see how
he's doing, how he deals with all the fame. For really,
it must be overwhelming to see all that feedback, To

(00:57):
see all those posts afterward be quite the thrill.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Because your your page is flooded with that.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
But I wonder, you know what, throw this down there
if you if you want to ask him when you
are scrolling through social media, does he even like you
know what, when it's your birthday on social media? How
you have like, you know, thousands of people happy birthday,
you know, like you try to get back to everyone
when you win the hot dog getting contest. Do you

(01:24):
think he actually looks at a social media Absolutely, because
every idiot the thrill of victory, idiot including us, that
is hung with him, met him or took a picture
with him, posted and.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
They're like, there's our guy.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, he has to be overwhelmed with the amount of
feedback and you know, the people that are talking about
him and about the event, and it's just that one
day and then you know he's back to I don't
say normal life, but yeah, he's He's the.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Biggest star of the day. It's crazy. Who's more American
than Joey Chestnut.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
I mean, he brings us all together at a time
where many people are not heading along.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Now we will we wait for Joey.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
Do you got him spot?

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Oh yeah, he's entering the room. You should have like
a fanfare for him. There he is Joey Chestnut, with
glory and renown. We welcome back seventeen time hot dog
eating champion, the Great.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
The Goat, Joey Chestnuts.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
Joey, I'm gonna be on with you guys again.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Always for making man, Always good to see you.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
I first of all, I got to ask, how do
we feel three days later? We were back to normal
or what it was three days later?

Speaker 5 (02:38):
Still, I don't think I'll ever be normal, but uh
I uh yeah, I probably feel Yeah, I look pretty rough.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
I feel pretty rough. Still. I yeah, yesterday was a
long day of travel.

Speaker 5 (02:51):
But you know, I'm back my own bed, got my
young on, my dogs, and uh yeah, I'm starting I'm
getting close to normal.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Joey Kavino and I were just saying, we're curious if
the day of the hot Dog getting championship, those twenty
four hours surrounding the events, are you aware of how
much you trend on social media? Are you watching and
looking at all the memes and the post and everyone
relish pun intended?

Speaker 4 (03:16):
Yes, No, I uh a little bit, but it's uh.

Speaker 5 (03:22):
I actually turn off my phone usually what the fourth
and I, uh I it's yeah, I'm kind of I'm
kind of I get I get overwhelmed. I'm actually a
shy guy, so I don't look at that stuff too much.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
It's overwhelming for us to see how much coverage you
get for real, Like it's it's a ton of coverage.
Are you ever shocked to see who's talking about your
tweeting about you?

Speaker 4 (03:45):
Oh the whole time?

Speaker 5 (03:47):
Like yeah, yesterday I started going through things and seeing
seeing what was said, and I like all the Mountain
Rushmore posts, those ones are those ones, like, oh my god,
those are embarrassing.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
You know what we were talking about that before the
dominance that you hold even at your what was it
your best right seventy point five but it was still
enough to win by a landslide by a lot and
still impressive, but I know you were shooting for eighty.
When it comes to dominance, who else comes to mind
for you growing up? Because there's such a gap between
you and the next guy. Oh, dominance, I said you

(04:20):
and like Tyson and guys like that. When you think
of dominance, who comes to mind?

Speaker 5 (04:25):
I think of Barry Bonds and he was just unapologetic.
He was there just to be the best that he
could and hit home runs and dominate.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
You look at.

Speaker 5 (04:37):
I mean, everybody says Jordan, but yeah, Jordan, but yeah,
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
It's to compare myself. It's weird to compare myself to
other people. I got super lucky.

Speaker 5 (04:50):
I found something that I didn't even know I was
going to be, Like, this was my thing until I
was twenty one years old.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
Like all the other athletes, anybody.

Speaker 5 (04:58):
Who's a competitor, they knew, like when they were five,
that that's what they.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
Were going to be doing.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Well, if you weren't Joey Chestnut, the seven time, seventeen
seventeen time champion, what would you be doing?

Speaker 4 (05:10):
Oh my god, I'd still be be working, probably construction management.

Speaker 5 (05:14):
I went to school for civil engineering, and I like
seeing things being in part of a big, big project.
But I yeah, I don't know what i'd be doing really,
but I'd still be probably eating and drinking for fun
quite a bit.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
Let me tell you.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Seventeen time winner Joey Chess, Now, thanks for the post
fourth of July check in.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
We were thinking about it.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
When you win by such a large margin, you're around
the same age as Lebron James and he's you know,
just playing as as well as he's ever played. You
saw Tom Brady play till he was forty five years old.
When you're winning by again twenty hot dogs, is there
any slowing down? Are you gonna be the one that
walks away eventually? Or can you do this for another

(05:56):
ten plus years? Or is that just too much on
your body? Or forty one now right?

Speaker 4 (06:01):
Yeah, I'm forty one. I Uh, the recovery it takes longer.

Speaker 5 (06:06):
I remember when I was younger, I'd be bounce bounced
back after two days.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
It was it was the body was, Oh my god,
it was. It was amazing.

Speaker 5 (06:13):
And I uh, these days it takes a little bit longer,
and that's to be expected.

Speaker 4 (06:17):
But uh, we'll see.

Speaker 5 (06:19):
As long as long as I'm still able to bounce back, eventually,
I'll keep doing it.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
And I still love it.

Speaker 5 (06:25):
Is that that audience out there, We're talking twenty thousand
people New York.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
It's uh, it was great to be back.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, your name not only welcoming you back. You know
what I saw him get this is USO. Like the
walk into the place, like you know how like they'll
show like the NBA players in the tunnel wanting entrance.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
I saw, like the Joey chest Nut, He's arrived, he's here.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
That's it's It's really cool how they how they demonstrated
your comeback. And at no point, at no point did
anyone think you weren't going to dominate this. In fact,
is it wild to think that, you know, so many
people were betting on your own over under? How many
you know people are wagering on how many hot dogs
you win by that's like a thing now.

Speaker 5 (07:06):
Yeah, the over under man, that that's the painful one.
A lot a lot of people bet the over and
I feel bad. I'm gonna next year, I'm gonna I'm gonna, Yeah,
I'm gonna put the work in.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
I uh now that it will we do it.

Speaker 5 (07:20):
It's I'm gonna figure it out how to get get
get that to approach that record seventy six.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
Even though I'm older, I know there's a way I
can do it.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Hey, Joey, Actually I have a listener question that goes
with that. This is from a mercer man who's also
a competitive eater in training. He goes, what do you
think was the reason that the eaters had trouble getting
down the dogs this year? Because numbers. We were talking numbers.
Numbers were sort of down for men and women. Were
the buns stale, are more dense, or maybe the dogs

(07:50):
were cooked too much and harder to swallow. Why were
numbers down this year?

Speaker 6 (07:54):
You think it was a little weird.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
Yeah, the.

Speaker 5 (07:59):
I I don't know exactly. The dogs did taste a
little a little different. There was there's I don't know
if they cooked him ahead of time or what, but
they were a little bit darker all all the way around.
I don't know what they if they cooked him on
a grill that was just too hot or something.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
I don't know. It was there was something a little
bit different about the dogs. I know Mickey her numbers
were off, but.

Speaker 5 (08:22):
Like like seventeen hot dogs. So as soon as I
saw that her number was down by so much, I
was like, oh, maybybe there's something off. I was still
fast as heck in the beginning, but I I just
got I was a fat man.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
Towards the end, I slowed down. And that's all on me.
It was. It wasn't really the dogs.

Speaker 5 (08:42):
So I I next year, I just got Tom come
in better shape.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
I think Joey Chestnut hanging with Cavino rich In for
Dan Patrick, Now, most people look at their outlook, their
calendar and oh, I got a work trip, a meeting.
What's coming up over the next couple of weeks?

Speaker 4 (08:57):
For you?

Speaker 3 (08:57):
What is that? Is there a do you have a
competition on the horizon raid?

Speaker 4 (09:02):
Right?

Speaker 6 (09:02):
Like?

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Did you have a Disney World? What's up for Joey
chess at?

Speaker 4 (09:06):
What?

Speaker 3 (09:06):
What are we eating next? Or are you taking a
little time out now now that there's a.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
What do I gut? Uh geez, I think I might
have a little bit of time off. I'm gonna go.

Speaker 5 (09:15):
Visit a friend in Alaska at the end of the month,
do some salmon fishing. But yeah, so I'm taking a
little bit of time. There's a couple appearances and they're
minor league baseball game.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
Uh. I think on the twenty.

Speaker 5 (09:28):
First, I'll be in uh Lancey in Michigan. Yea doing
something up there, but uh yeah, yeah, I'll be in
Olive Berger.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Danny g You wants to know how many salmon could
you eat at once? Yeah? Uh?

Speaker 2 (09:41):
You know we were talking about uh Andy Ronnicks saying
that tennis takes more athleticism than any other sport. He
was saying it's the hardest sport to play, and you
were just talking about how tough it is to recover
in your sport. What is the toughest part about your
sport and what you do? Like the biggest misconception maybe, Oh.

Speaker 5 (09:59):
I think the hard The biggest thing is that I
have to be fairly healthy. I love to eat, but
when I when I, it's just double edged.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
Short.

Speaker 5 (10:08):
You have to be a big eater naturally, but the
more you eat, the the harder it.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
Is to eat within those ten minutes.

Speaker 5 (10:14):
So I have to really have to be somewhat fit
and control my eating and going absolutely empty. So it's
it's a lot of it's it's a lot of contradiction.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
Yeah, you have to be.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
A big a mental bat all the time, like to
not overeat.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
Oh, it's it's I love to eat.

Speaker 5 (10:33):
Like my biggest thing is like, like I'm stilling fourteen
pounds heavier than when I started the contest because I
had a couple of beers.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
I had some beers I had.

Speaker 5 (10:45):
My recovery after a contest is supposed to be super
high fiber, no carbs, no starches. But if I start
having any of those carbs, the weight it really stays
on me.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Joey one last question you're synonymous with with hot dogs?

Speaker 4 (10:58):
Can you know?

Speaker 2 (10:58):
And I olways feel like pizza is the one thing
that so easy to overeat if you're if you're having
some drinks, watching a fight night with some of your buddies. Like,
what is a reasonable amount of pizza you think for
a grown man to eat?

Speaker 4 (11:14):
Well, it depends on the pie. It depends on the pizza.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Like New York City style like eight slice eight eight slices,
New York City pie.

Speaker 5 (11:22):
Yeah, yeah, you're you're eating more more than two thirds
of the pie.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
Yeah, that's six slices is pretty normal.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
Wow, man, a little more free then.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (11:35):
But a lot of people they it's easy football games.
It's like a three hour long thing. You're gonna it's
easy to just lose count. Yeah, and a lot of
people have parties. But there's multiple where there's.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
Different boxes open, so it's it's easy.

Speaker 5 (11:52):
I'll go to a place and other's i'll more than
one more than eight slices, twelve twelve slices probably, but
it's a you just lose count.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Don't just being friends with Joey chest Nut. You're having
a party you always have to accommodate for this guy. Yeah,
an extra pie for let Yeah, Hey, Joey, we'll let
you go. I know you're a busy man as you're
getting ready for some downtime.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
Are you big?

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Are you a football guy? Or now?

Speaker 4 (12:17):
I love football?

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Who's your team? Because we're about to do a little
NFL preview. Who's your team?

Speaker 5 (12:23):
I'm living indian and so I'm big time Colts. I
still every year I go to a Buffalo Bills game,
I'm hoping, uh yeah, I'm always rooting for the Bills
a little bit.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Josh Allen, this could be the year and they're saying
that Daniel Jones could be making an impact in Indianapolis.
So we'll get to all that. Joey, appreciate your time
as man. Congrats again, seventeen time winners. Great to have
you back as many championships as your Lakers dating think
of that.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
Thank you, Joey, Thank you, guys, appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Brother the goat right there, Joey Chestnut just far superior
than anybody else. And by the way, I think his
number are a little skewed. Six slices of pizza. You're
a guy vone as they say, but I think at four,
and that's when I'm like, hey, how many did you have?
Because you never want to be the sloppiest guy, but
I but I do some guy.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
At five You're like, all right, well I'm still good.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Well I do feel like when you were a kid,
when you were a little kid and your family would
get one pie, one pizza for the family, always had
always keep the secret that he ate one on the
way home. He had a whole pie. Because I always
thought like I had two siblings, so there were five
of us. I'm like, how did one the math? It
never meth either. Dad didn't eat in the eighties. The

(13:36):
math wasn't meth. And as they say, well Dad ate
a whole pie by himself on the way home and
never told anybody. That might be the trick in itself,
not to tell like a bunch of slobs. But like
Danny g I was saying, how many slices could you have?
Like if we got we could we could only the pine,
But it's how many should you have?

Speaker 4 (13:53):
Yeah? Nowadays I stop after the third piece.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
Yeah, I started at four.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
I hate myself so I could eat the whole thing,
but four us where I'm like all right, I'm maxed out.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
You couldn't, he said, sick.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
But I'm saying, if you wanted at twelve in the night,
if calories didn't matter and health wasn't a thing, you
could easily put down a whole.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
Put down a medium by yourself.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
You could eat a whole pizza, easy, easy crust.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
You could do a medium by yourself, if you're not
worried about gaining weight.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
But the trick is this, It's like, you know, you
gotta you can't be the worst guy in your crew.
So if the worst guy in your crew had five slices,
you had four.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
You're good.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
That's what That's the That's my rule, man, Danny. How
many times is never how many wings you have? He's
always counting.

Speaker 5 (14:39):
I don't want to have most every event, I know
the question is coming, Hey, how many did you have?

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (14:43):
The rule applies for alcohol too. It's like how many
drinks did you have?

Speaker 4 (14:46):
Good?

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Because you're going to be the stupidest by the end
of the night. All right, and keep it always, keep
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Speaker 4 (16:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (16:18):
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Speaker 4 (16:25):
That your owner. Definitely he did that quite a bit
for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (16:32):
But even you're not in Green Bay anymore. But is
there still animosity hatred with the Chicago Bears? Does that
follow you the rest of your life?

Speaker 4 (16:41):
Oh? No, Honestly, I've met so many fans. I feel
like I meet more fans in the NFC North down
because they actually come forth and speak to me. So
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Speaker 6 (17:00):
Okay, So they'll talk to you now because you're not
in the division. Yeah, if you were still with the Packers,
Bears fans wouldn't be talking.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
No, they don't introduce themselves quite as much. I think
they They they tend to hold back when I was
with the Packers.

Speaker 6 (17:14):
Do you have a favorite story that you tell of
your time with the Packers?

Speaker 4 (17:18):
That's a that's a tough one. I was there for
eight years, so quite a bit of stories.

Speaker 6 (17:25):
You got a Rogers story that you're gonna tell your kids' grandkids?

Speaker 4 (17:29):
Oh yeah, I don't. I don't know if I can
say that. Tell tell one of them that the good
ones on the Dan Patrick Show. I might get in
some trouble, but but you can you can have the
language maybe, yeah, you know, if you have to change
the language a little bit. Well, I guess one of
a pretty good story I have is one of the
first stories. So my basically first game plan was the

(17:49):
Detroit Lions game. I played like eight players in the
in the season opener against the Seahawks we open up
the season, and you know, I kind of got my
feet wet in that game. And then the Detroit game,
I've got a few more meaningful snaps. So I get
out there in one of my first snaps, I'm on
the right side, and I'm by myself, and we had
a signal that was this, and we had a signal
that was this, oh so very close. So and especially

(18:14):
when it's full speed mid cadence. You know Aaron time,
so I see that, and basically the timing that you
got now when you're dealing with a person like Aaron
and you come to learn the details are very very important, right,
So this signal is for when you're by yourself, So

(18:35):
you wouldn't get this signal typically if you're over there
with another tight end or another you know, a slot
receiver with you. And I was outside. I wasn't playing
in the slot as much at that point. So if
you get this, you're typically for when you're alone. You
get this. That's a two man concept, right, I'm just
a rookie coming in. It's my second game plan. I'm
not really ready to you know, process all that, especially
not mid cadence, which I don't even know if we

(18:57):
ever even did that again after that. I think it
might have been a test and failed it. But I'm
over there in the boundary and green nineteen and he
does that, so boom. I almost pooped myself for sure.
And then I say, okay, well I'm gonna run a slant.
I think this is the slant. So I come off
the ball and I run full speed. Now The problem
with that was that the other route is a one

(19:18):
step like stop right where you are, so you're not
moving anywhere, and the ball's coming out immediately. So as
soon as I drive off the ball, take that step
and stick for the slant. The boss flying to the
where I basically was standing before. I didn't move, and
then I looking at him. I looked like, flip my
eyes to him, and then I see the boss, So

(19:38):
I flipped it and I'm like looking back and forth,
and I'm like, and he's flying at me. Just just this.
When you see that finger come out and he starts skipping,
you know, you know it's problems. So I see him
skipping over toward me, and I've seen it in practice,
but I wasn't. It's less embarrassing in practice because you
run all your teammates and we you know, we were
all getting it. And he softened up over time, so

(19:59):
he doesn't really do that anymore. But that was twelve
years ago. He was he was a little bit more fiery.
So but what's that like going back to the huddle.
It's it's not Well, first of all, I had to
deal with it before I even got to the huddle,
because I mean, he's literally approaching me as this is happening.
So I'm going to him and I'm and I say,
I thought, I thought you gave you know whatever. And
then in the moment, I think that's sometimes the worst

(20:21):
thing to do, whether it's to your parents, to your
your your you know, your uncle, your veteran quarterback, it's
to say something that isn't like a legitimate response to them.
And I thought it was a legit response because this
signal and this signal or damn close. So I'm like,
I thought you meant the other one. And then he
taught me what details are about. And he says, breaks
that whole thing. I told you now about the two

(20:42):
man versus one man concept, and you got to be
able to take care of that in your head, like
you know, if you I'm not going to give you
a two man concept to a one man's side, So
you have to understand you got to do the math
quickly and make that work. So right then I said, okay,
that next week I just dove into the details. Is different,
and I mean the changed my life because he got me,
he got me down into the you know, knowing just

(21:03):
how important small things are in this game.

Speaker 6 (21:07):
You were in Vegas and it felt like you can
blend in in Vegas. That didn't you know? You went
to a party, I think, and you had people didn't
know what you did for a living.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
Yeah that was that was my daughter's party.

Speaker 6 (21:19):
Yeh okay, oh so it's your daughter's party.

Speaker 4 (21:21):
It was her party. We invited the parents of her
school and her classmates too, and I wasn't at the
school as much at that point, so they had no idea.
They see Daja at school, they had no idea that
I was her father. So they show up at the
house and it's a little weird for him.

Speaker 6 (21:38):
So when did they realize what you do for a living?

Speaker 4 (21:40):
Well, they all knew what I did for a living,
they just didn't know that I was the one whose
house they were showing up to. So they showed up
at DeVante Adam's house thinking they were just going to
their kids friends birthday party. And I was there greeting
them saying hello, welcome to my house.

Speaker 6 (21:56):
Did you have your jersey on?

Speaker 4 (22:00):
And I was. I was wearing my helmet though.

Speaker 6 (22:03):
But but in Green Bay you can't walk around You're
not anonymous in Green Bay.

Speaker 4 (22:07):
Yeah, I mean it's to be honest, it's it's not
as comfortable as i'd like just period. But in Green
Bay there's there's a lot more people with fair skin there,
so I think I think just that alone kind of
draws a little attention, not in a bad way, but like,
you know, it's like you're here, so you know, and

(22:28):
I look a little athletic. So even if they don't know,
sometimes they kind of.

Speaker 6 (22:32):
Know, Yeah the package correct, Yeah, yeah, don't know what position, but.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
You like, I'll tell you this. I have my manager
who is by no means appearing to be a football player.
He's he is of the darker complexion, I will say that.
But we go to a Buffalo Wild Wings. It's like
my second year and I'm sitting there with my hood
on and they got my strings pulled and I'm waiting
for the order and somebody walks by him. He's like
five to seven, not in amazing shape, and it doesn't again,

(22:59):
doesn't look like plays football. And they walk by him,
tap on the shoulder and go good luck Sunday. Just
just and that let me know. I was like, yeah,
I think I don't think I'll be outside too much
out here.

Speaker 6 (23:09):
But Los Angeles, you can blend in.

Speaker 4 (23:12):
You can blend in a lot better there, that's for sure,
and it's it's built a little bit more for that.

Speaker 6 (23:17):
But have you met celebrities?

Speaker 4 (23:18):
And oh yeah, well I've met celebrity. I mean I
played in New York, I got I played in you know,
in uh in Vegas. So I've had the opportunity to
come across a lot of people. But LA is full
of them.

Speaker 6 (23:29):
Okay, but give me the oh my god, that's such
and such.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
Since being on the Rams or just period period, I
mean your your your jay Z's your you know. Obviously
Bron is a big one, and me being in LA.
He actually I saw him at Fanatics Fast in New
York just recently, and he's coming through it. Anywhere Lebron goes.
I don't know if you've ever been around Lebron. They

(23:53):
basically there's music playing. They cut the music off. They
made it's like the biggest deal in the world. So
when he walks through, everybody's just like staring at him.
And he came through and he was just kind of
walking with security and then he like gave like fully
embraced me as like the only person in like the building,
and everybody was looking at me like that, and I
wasn't expecting. I was just sitting there with my water,
just kind of sipping and I saw him. I was like,

(24:14):
what's up? And he just leaned over fully embraced me,
started talking about the LA thing and everything. So, you know,
I'm just a young, humble dude. For Me's Paul Alto, California,
And obviously I know who I am to people, but
you lose sight of that when you are, you know,
humble and just staying focused on continuing to get better.
And when you got a guy like Lebron that'll come
in and only embrace you, you know, immediately out of

(24:35):
in a building, that obviously means a lot.

Speaker 6 (24:38):
What kind of football player do you think Lebron would
have made?

Speaker 4 (24:40):
He would have He would have been one of the
best receivers tight ends all time, no question. I don't
know if you've ever seen him play football.

Speaker 6 (24:46):
I saw him play a high school.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
Yeah, he can. He can fly too, That's the thing
he's He's one of the fastest NBA players probably all time.
I've never seen somebody cover space on a on a
basketball court. Maybe John Wall, Derreck Rose, something like that,
but he's up there with all of them.

Speaker 6 (25:01):
But you get guys whenever I bring up basketball players
playing football and they go, yeah, once they get hit
one time and then we'll see.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
Well they bron doesn't help his case by the way
he asks the times. But I do I do think
it's it's a little bit strategy in there, So I
don't I don't think he's actually like banged up every time. Now,
if you're doing that in football, we're gonna have some
issues and that might slow the game up a little bit.

Speaker 6 (25:24):
Because, uh, but you guys, do you flop in football? Yeah,
like do you find your trying to get a call?

Speaker 4 (25:31):
The football flop is like when you're trying to like
get under a dude's skin and he pushes you and
you do that to get a flag, not like not
you know, you'll get some flops like PI flops and
stuff like that a little bit, but it's never like
it's never like the soccer dudes, Like I think soccer
is really the worst soccer dudes when they I think
it's because the game doesn't stop. Maybe that's what it is,
so they really need some breaks in the game. But

(25:52):
these dudes get like touched on their shoulder and they
like are grabbing his shoulder, mouth is wide open, screaming
and stuff like that, so I think they be a
little worse.

Speaker 6 (26:00):
Do you have a hit that was a welcome to
the NFL? Hit?

Speaker 4 (26:02):
Oh? Absolutely, well I've gotten hit more than what I
would like in this league, that's for sure, But I
would say welcome to the league was my It was
either either Dante high Tower. My my first year, I
caught a slant, a high one and and brought it
in and he and he hit me, knocked the wind

(26:23):
out of me, and then I was safe after that.
Probably my second year, preseason, we were playing the Patriots
and I ran another slant and thought I was getting
busy after this is before I would wear a mouthpiece,
and caught it and I was getting ready to turn up,
and Jamie Collins just hit me in my in like
like one of these like in your chest, and it
raised up so it made me bite through my tongue

(26:45):
and I couldn't eat food for like a week and
a half. I had that. It was on like a
strictly liquid die.

Speaker 6 (26:48):
Why don't you wear a mouthpiece?

Speaker 4 (26:51):
Well, my reason's gonna be even dumber than not.

Speaker 6 (26:54):
Mouth Okay, can we guess why DeVante Adams wouldn't wear
a mouth.

Speaker 4 (26:59):
Let's yeah, all love to see you.

Speaker 8 (27:01):
Know what, you have very nice teeth and a good smile.
I think for branding he didn't want to cover up
the money maker.

Speaker 6 (27:07):
You want to keep those teeth. That's why you wear
the mo reason Okay, cheating? What do you think?

Speaker 4 (27:13):
I think?

Speaker 6 (27:14):
Because they taste funny?

Speaker 4 (27:16):
All right?

Speaker 6 (27:16):
Marvin new teeth, new teeth like he had gotten them done.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
Oh okay, no, that's not it. But I would say
it's dumber than all of those for sure. I would
wear a gold grill like like the the gold teeth
in in games, so I would I wore I wore
the tops and bottoms in games. And it was it
started in high school because it was kind of like
a culture thing that I grew up in East Palotto

(27:43):
and that was a that was a real popular thing.
Guys wore grills, and I just decided to keep it.
And it was kind of it worked as kind of
like an intimidation factor a little bit too. I'll see people,
people will see it and they'd be like, oh, this
UD's wearing the gold teeth in the game.

Speaker 6 (27:57):
Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (27:58):
And then I'll talk a little crazier to him too,
obviously and put all that together. So yeah, not the
best reason, and I put one in the next game
after that.

Speaker 6 (28:06):
He is a three time All Pro, six time Pro
bowler now with the Rams. Davante Adams. How much work
have you had with Matthew Stafford?

Speaker 4 (28:13):
Quite a bit, man. We got right to it. Had
a really productive offseason and I've worked probably some of
the hardest I've worked, just feeling really rejuvenated and ready
to go and win some games. So he looks amazing too.
He looks just like the Matthew Stafford we all fell
in love with seventeen years ago when he came in
doing his thing. So I'm having a lot of fun

(28:34):
doing it with him. How's McVeigh Just like everybody says.
I mean, I haven't heard anybody say anything different about McVeigh.
I think of any coach ever spoken about to me.
It's been the most uniform feedback ever. And then I
got around him and he completely validated.

Speaker 6 (28:52):
He's got some energy.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
He's got energy. He's got but it's all legit, it's real.
You can feel him. You just love being around his energy,
even when you don't do things wrong or you don't
do things right, and you may have you know, messed
something up, like you don't feel that like all my
coach is gonna come down on me, like he's gonna
correct you and he's gonna hold you accountable. But it's
it's just a different feeling in that building right now.

Speaker 6 (29:12):
Anybody that you're looking forward to meeting here in Tahoe, I.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
Really I got to look at who's all here this year.
I haven't even seen fully everybody, but I've seen a
lot of thee and yeah, yeah, I've met all those guys. Yeah.
I was on the par five on the other side
of the course when he knocked it in on uh,
I think it was number seven. What did he hit
the one? Yeah, well hit the whole of one. I
think that was seven. Yeah, And I heard it from
like the other side of the course. So I felt

(29:40):
like I met him then. If I didn't meet him.

Speaker 6 (29:41):
Before that, I know that you got Taco Bell had yeah,
and uh, so you're you're flying the colors there, Yes, sir,
you're so. You walk into Taco Bell and you ordered what.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
Two crunch Trap Supremes, one, Dorito's Locals, Taco supreme, no
tomatoes on either or two of the other. And depending
on kind of where I'm at with that, Carmel, Apple
and Panada, if they want to bring that back again
for me. I did bring that back for a while
Mexican pizza as well. So you guys are completely welcome.

Speaker 6 (30:09):
Marvin, You're he's speaking your language here.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
Contract supreme for me with the Mountain Dew Baja blast.
There you go. You got to go to the CANTEENA
in Vegas. They put something in that for you if.

Speaker 6 (30:21):
You if you're interested, and just drop your name right, yeah,
just just.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
Tell them, tell them you there, tell them, tell them
tasting you Tay.

Speaker 6 (30:28):
They'd be like, oh you know, t yeah, yeah, I'll
go the cheesy Gordida crunch though, okay, and then these
Cinnabon delights as well.

Speaker 4 (30:36):
Oh wow, you depending your bag there?

Speaker 6 (30:38):
Yeah, yeah we might.

Speaker 4 (30:40):
I'm feeling like we did some research before.

Speaker 6 (30:45):
We're professionals here, attention to detail, just like Aaron Rodgers.
There you go, yeah, you go, what's great to meet
and uh, good luck I know that. Uh you're a
six handicapped, so you're getting into that area where you
might not improve as much as you did when you're
correct around nine, ten, eleven, twelve handicap, then you see improvement.

(31:07):
Now you're gonna be like, damn, I'm still six.

Speaker 4 (31:09):
The worst thing you can ever do in golf is
get better. I'm telling you, it's so frustrating. I'll still
where I could just run around just having a sip
a crown and just enjoying again at eighteen, Now I
care too much about it.

Speaker 6 (31:25):
Oh so you won't sip any crown royal out there.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
I'll sit, but I would they were a little stronger
ships back then.

Speaker 6 (31:31):
I will say thanks again for joining us, and good
luck this upcoming season.

Speaker 4 (31:36):
Thank you appreciate.

Speaker 6 (31:37):
That's Davante Adams.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAP.

Speaker 6 (31:48):
We are live at Lake Tahoe, American Century Celebrity Golf
Championship getting underway today Peacock NBC Golf Channel. You can
go to Danpatrick dot com click on the toy box
link to follow along. Got tons of content there, games, interviews,
pull questions, et cetera. A couple of phone calls then
we'll get to Charles Barkley, hunter in West Virginia, High Hunter,

(32:10):
what's on your mind?

Speaker 9 (32:11):
Good morning, Dan, I've been a hot minute. I decided
to take a little bit of time away after all
that terrible set of the day. I will all fall out.
I'll let the pros do that from here on. But
I wanted to call in and I wanted to congratulate
you guys on the win last night. I know the
Boys and Girls Club of Milford are going to put
that twenty five thousand dollars to good use. Congratulations. And

(32:34):
if Fritzi doesn't get the MVD as a result of
his performance and gas money, oh.

Speaker 6 (32:39):
Boy, no, no, he's won fas he's won that before
with Most Valuable and Least Valuable. But thanks for the
phone call, and I'm sure Fritzy will probably win both
awards this year. Charles Barkley joined us yesterday. We were waiting.
You know, usually what happens is once the show is over,
we kind of stay here on our set and then

(33:00):
we wait till the golfers get done with their round
or they're done with the you know, being on the
practice range, and all of a sudden we looked over
and here was Charles Barkley coming up, and he greeted
me by saying, Dan, you're a coward.

Speaker 10 (33:15):
Dan, why don't you play in this tournament? I guess
you injured this year? Dan, this is the best week
of a year.

Speaker 6 (33:23):
I would play if I could play with you, because
I know that I would beat you.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
Then you can't beat me.

Speaker 6 (33:27):
Now you had the worst odds to win this thing.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
I don't even understand that. I do.

Speaker 10 (33:33):
No, I don't even understand that because last year I
came in fifty eighth. So how do they have that's
thirty more people? How can they have me dead last
if I beat thirty some people last year?

Speaker 6 (33:46):
I'm all right, I'm betting on you to better your
score from last year.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
Well they got me top sixty five, right, yeah, I'm
gonna beat that.

Speaker 6 (33:53):
I'm going under me too.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (33:55):
How much you gonna bet on yourself?

Speaker 10 (33:57):
Well, last year I had I want to bet five
hundred thousand, and did you so? No, this true story.
I placed the bet and then they tell me I
can't do it. They say it's illegal for me to
better myself.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
I said, which is.

Speaker 10 (34:13):
Total, But yes, I might add. I guess they knew
I was gonna win. But they told me it's illegal
for you to bet on yourself. I'm like, if I
bet myself to lose, that would be illegal.

Speaker 6 (34:26):
But boxers get to bet on themselves.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
I don't know.

Speaker 10 (34:29):
I think they were just full of crap. To be
honest with you, Dan, I would have placed the bet
for you. I would like you to do that. So yeah,
they told me it was illegal, which I didn't understand.

Speaker 6 (34:38):
Okay, so you can give me five hundred thousand, yes,
and I can bet on you.

Speaker 4 (34:42):
Yes. Let's see if they take that this year.

Speaker 6 (34:45):
And do I get a finder's fee or do I get.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
Did you put any money in?

Speaker 10 (34:50):
No, you didn't put any money in, so if I lose,
so you gotta find an unfound fee.

Speaker 6 (34:56):
No, what's the number one question basketball wise that you'll
get out here?

Speaker 4 (35:07):
I have not.

Speaker 10 (35:08):
I just got in last night. I have not been
asked any basketball question yet. To be honest with you,
I have not been asked one basketball question. Well, I've
only did probably two quick interviews nothing just the most
formal one I've done. But I have not been asked
one basketball question. But the answer your question was the

(35:31):
number one question I'm probably gonna be asked is how
close are the Rockets to the Thunder? And who's going
to be favored in the East, which are two very
good questions because I don't know because basketball is not
played on papers, played in the gym, and I have
no idea who the favorite in the East. Did the
Rockets get the better? Probably are as good as Oklahoma City?

(35:55):
I don't know, But the question with the East, I'd
have to do some serious thinking because I like the
mouse turner going with Giannis. The Knicks are gonna be solid.
I like what Orlando did. Atlanta had a great off well,

(36:20):
but all that stuff is just window dressing. When that
when when the basketball starts in October, that's when they started.

Speaker 4 (36:28):
Everything looks great on paper.

Speaker 6 (36:30):
DeAndre Ayton going to the Lakers does that? What's What's
that solved?

Speaker 10 (36:35):
They got bigger, They got bigger, But their best, second
best player is going to be forty one, forty two
years old? Can he stay healthy? Is Luca Luca gonna
be in shape? Are they better in the Rockets? Are
they better in Oklahoma City? Are they better than Denver?

(36:57):
Those are great questions. I don't just because aiden his
track I gotta go by his track record and it's
not a good track record. They needed a big guy.
But are they better in Oklahoma City, Houston, or Denver?
I would not say so.

Speaker 6 (37:13):
No, do you think you know more about football than
you do basketball.

Speaker 10 (37:19):
I admire football more than I do basketball. It takes
a tremendous amount of courage to play football. I played
for one day and I realized I was a puss.
I was like, damn, they really are hid not here.

Speaker 6 (37:35):
But you were a big guy in high school.

Speaker 4 (37:38):
I wasn't that big.

Speaker 10 (37:39):
I grew from five ten to sixty five, but I
was like five ten when I played football at one day.
But even now, to go out on the football field,
you can cheat in basketball. You don't have to play defense.
You can be a one way offensive player. You can
you know you can cheat. You cannot cheat in football
if you step on that football field. It's kind of
the same thing with boxing. The reason football in boxing

(38:01):
of my two favorite sports. It takes tremendous courage. You
cannot step on a football field if you're not all in,
You're gonna have to quit. I mean, it's just dangerous.
Same thing with boxing. You can't cheat football in boxing.
You can cheat in some other sports. But in football,
in boxing, you have to be all in.

Speaker 6 (38:20):
I think best athletes are hockey players to do it
on the ice, well with the sticks. They get to
hit you with the sticks.

Speaker 4 (38:30):
Well.

Speaker 10 (38:30):
I would love to beat the hell out of some
people and only get and only get punished for two minutes.

Speaker 4 (38:36):
Can you imagine that you get to.

Speaker 10 (38:38):
Knock the hell out of somebody and only get punished
for two minutes. That would be a That'd be like
a dream come true.

Speaker 6 (38:42):
Okay, how many players would you, looking back, like to
have that I get to beat you up and I
am only out two minutes for roughing Bill.

Speaker 10 (38:52):
Mbier, mL Car Popeye Jones. Because Papa Jones are one
play who dominated me every time I played against him.
I would love to just knock the hell out of
him for two minutes.

Speaker 6 (39:06):
When you see Lambert, you're good.

Speaker 10 (39:08):
We're good, you know, dude, that's all this stuff should
be good. Dude, he's sixty year old. If you're sixty
years old and still fighting, you're a punk. Anybody who's
still fighting sixty. Anybody who's fighting past twenty five is
a punk. Like if you're a grown person, you know
you young and dombans too, but you get in a
fight every now and then, but once you're a grown person,

(39:29):
you shouldn't be fighting. Anybody fighting once you pass thirty
is just a loser. You see these videos with people
out here fighting, You say to yourself, what a damn food?

Speaker 4 (39:38):
What an idiot?

Speaker 6 (39:40):
Where would you be if you didn't play basketball?

Speaker 10 (39:43):
Wow, that's a great question. I believe my work ethic
would make me successful. But I don't know because I've
never did anything but basketball. But I believe my work
ethic in basketball help me be successful, cause you got

(40:03):
to have more than talent to be successful. But I
probably would be like a regular worker, like in a
factory somewhere, because nobody's gonna ever has gonna say I
didn't work hard, but I wasn't going to be overly smart.
I'm not going to tell that lie. But I think

(40:25):
I would have been successful as something. Probably have been
factory related.

Speaker 6 (40:30):
But okay, when do you get that personality? When you
realize you have personality?

Speaker 4 (40:35):
When?

Speaker 6 (40:35):
When When can you entertain? When can you make people laugh?

Speaker 4 (40:40):
Well?

Speaker 6 (40:40):
That should be easy, but you were in high school?
You in college? No?

Speaker 10 (40:44):
Not, It didn't happen til I got to the NBA.
Once I realized I'd made it. See your life happiness
should be dictated by how good your life is. Like Dan,
anybody who played sports should be the happiest person in
the world. You think about it. We get paid a
gazillion dollars to do something that's stupid. Think about it,

(41:07):
And I'm not saying that to be humbleed every like.
I was sitting there when I first started making my like,
these people are paying me millions of dollars to dribble
a stupid ass basketball. They're paying me the millions of
dollars to wear shoes. I should always be in a
good mood, and I really live my life. People say, man,
you're always in a good mood. I said, why will

(41:28):
not be in a good mood? Like every NBA player
to be like, man, these people are paying me millions
of dollars to dribble a stupid ball. Like my first
contract was four years, two million dollars. I was the
number five pick in the draft. That guy today is
probably gonna get a four year deal for thirty forty million.

(41:50):
He should be happy from day one. I was happy
from day one.

Speaker 6 (41:54):
So my songwhere Devin Booker got to your extension he's
gonna get over seventy million dollars a year.

Speaker 4 (42:00):
He should be the happiest person. He should go around.
He should just go around shaking people hands.

Speaker 6 (42:04):
Nobody he plays for the Suns. How happy can he be?

Speaker 10 (42:07):
Well, he's gonna be happy twice a day, trice a month.
The first un of fifteenth. Hey, the first un of fifteenth.
Hes gonna be real damn happy. You know, God blessed
these guys for how much money they make. I made
more money than Doctor j and Bill Rusting those guys.
But these guys should all be in a good mood. Dan,
I mean, think about Devin Bucker, who's a hell of
a player, gonna make seventy million dollars to dribble a

(42:29):
stupid basketball. Why shouldn't he be in a good mood.
He's the luckiest dude in the world. I mean, all
these dudes. I saw Ched Hogan got two hundred some million.
She just got three hundred million. Why wouldn't you be
in a good mood? You work six seven months a year,
you get two three hundred dollars a day per diem.

(42:50):
You stay at the risk cast in the four seasons,
you work a couple hours a day, four days a week.

Speaker 6 (42:57):
What you not happy about keeping that good mood. We'll
continue with Charles Barkley right after this.

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Speaker 6 (43:58):
We spent some time yesterday Charles Barkley. We gave you
Part one, then we went to commercial break and we
promised part two. And I started out by asking Charles
Barkley how easy it was to get in trouble on
the road when he was playing.

Speaker 10 (44:13):
It's very easy to get in trouble. You got drugs,
you got alcohol, you got women. Troubles are always there
at trouble. You have to go on the road to
get in trouble's at home too.

Speaker 6 (44:26):
But who helps you navigate that when you get to
the NBA, because you know.

Speaker 10 (44:30):
How it helps you navigate. You got to surround yourself.
The first thing you gotta do is get rid of
your family and friends because they're the biggest freeloaders and
they'll never tell you no. They'll use up all your
money too, and they won't tell you no. You got
to surround yourself with a few people who number one
will tell you no, tell you how to invest your money,

(44:50):
how to save your money, tell you, hey, you had
too much to drink. I don't think we should be
doing this pot, cocaine, all these drugs. That's the hardest thing,
surrounding yourself with people. Because these kids got the same stuff.
They they just got more of it and they got

(45:12):
more money. But you got there's women, there's alcohol, there's drugs. Uh,
there's that's everywhere. Whether you at home or on the road,
and sometimes they can all get you in trouble if
you don't control them, and they're readily available depending on
how much money you got.

Speaker 6 (45:30):
Well, how did you not get in trouble?

Speaker 10 (45:32):
Or I've done stupid things? I never got into the
drug thing.

Speaker 6 (45:35):
You'd smoked pot before?

Speaker 10 (45:37):
Yeah, five times? I don't understand it. You know, my
friends keep trying to get me to smoke pot. I
don't smoke pot, like five times. It just makes me
want potato chips. It doesn't do anything for me. Dan
and my friends love it, and I say, oh, y'all
can do it. I'm just not gonna do it. But
pot does nothing for me. I just don't understand it.

(45:57):
I've only I said, I think I've done it maybe
four times at the most. And then you got to
try this this whatever, and I'm like, yeah, where are
laced potato chips and prinkles up? But I've never gotten
involved with drugs. I probably did some stupid stuff with women,
for sure, But man's it's there if you want it.

Speaker 6 (46:19):
But also, when you think about it, if you go
to a team, a bad team or a team, that
that's the culture.

Speaker 10 (46:27):
Yeah, but every guy's not involved in the culture. Like
there's guys. What guys on teams I've been on, they
like to do drugs. You don't have to hang out
with those guys.

Speaker 4 (46:36):
But didn't.

Speaker 10 (46:37):
Bottom line, you got to make your own decisions. I
chose not to do drugs. I didn't judge other guys
who did drugs.

Speaker 4 (46:42):
That's them.

Speaker 10 (46:43):
There's guys I probably drank too much because I like
to drink. But I think the biggest thing you need
to be a great players have a good coaching staff.
That's probably the most important thing, the coaching staff. I
think more players get ruined by the coaching staffs because
the coaches are cowards. They're scared the coach, Like I

(47:05):
wanted a pat Riley. I had a great coach, Billy
Cunningham or Greg Popovich. But most of these coaches today
they're cowards because the players make so much money. They
don't have money control. The players run the team and
the coach needs to realize that player gonna get him fired.
But we have taken the power from the coaches away
because the players make so much money. But I say

(47:27):
bad coaches have ruined more players than anything in the NBA.

Speaker 6 (47:33):
I was wondering this question if this would be asked
on Lebron's podcast, and tell me how you would interpret this.
Let's say Steve Nash says to Kevin Durant and Lebron
is there, and he says, do you think you're better
than Lebron? Do you think it's a fair question to
ask KD? And what do you think KD would say?

Speaker 4 (47:56):
Well? I think all questions are fair. You had a
right to answer them.

Speaker 10 (48:01):
I think Katie his answer should be yes, you got
to always think you You can't be a great player.
If you think other players are venue, they're gonna have
to prove they're better than you.

Speaker 4 (48:12):
Do.

Speaker 10 (48:12):
I think Katie is as good as a brun. I
do not because I don't think you have his leadership qualities.
But that's a fair question. But I answer should be yes.

Speaker 6 (48:21):
But did you think you were better?

Speaker 4 (48:22):
Yes? Yes? Yes?

Speaker 6 (48:25):
Did you think you were better than Jordan's?

Speaker 4 (48:26):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (48:28):
Was there anybody you didn't think you were better than.

Speaker 4 (48:32):
Dan?

Speaker 10 (48:33):
Let me tell you this, and I've talked about this
public before. I did not think Michael Jordan was betting
me till he beat me in the finals, because when
I when I was in Philly, we actually had success
against them, and then they got good and then they
beat us in the playoffs one year. But I thought

(48:54):
of just because he had some better players around him.
When I got trade to Phoenix, I says, Chuck Day
had told me. He says, you're the second best player
in the world. I said, I'm the best player in
the world. He says, no, that guy right over there's
the best player in the world. I said, well, I'm
gonna prove it to your ass this year when we
played them in the finals, he says. Chuck says, I

(49:16):
didn't realize how great you were, except getting to watch
you play every day, how easy the game is for you.
You can play with anybody. This is doing the Dream
Team practice. And I said, I said, Chuck, I'm the
best player in the world. I'm gonna prove it to you.
I said, We're going to play the Bulls in the finals.
And I remember telling the guys that going in training camp.

(49:39):
I said, we're going to play the Bulls in the finals.
How you know that, I said, because I'm the best
damn player in the world and I'm gonna prove it.
I said, We're gonna play the Bulls and I'm gonna
prove I'm a best player in the world. And I
remember going home after Game two. My daughter was upset,
crying that we lost the first two games. I says, Hey,

(50:01):
we're gonna be fine. I said, but I gotta tell him.
I ain't never said to this in my life. I
think that guy might be better at basketball than I am.
And I said, but I think I'm better and we'll
be fine. Then we win Game three, lose Game four,
win Game five, come back home for Game six, and
my daughter I says, I told you, I think I'm

(50:22):
the best player in the world. I'm gonna prove it.
Then they beat us. I remember telling her. I says,
I ain't never said it to se before. That guy's
better at basketball than me. And that's the first time
I'd ever because it's a team game. But once I
got Damn Marlin Kevin Johnson, I said, we can beat anybody.
We can beat anybody. But yeah, I thought Michael Jordan

(50:42):
was a better player to me. That's the only player
I ever played against I thought was better than me.
Magic Magic had James Worth and Kareem and Magic is great.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
You know.

Speaker 10 (50:50):
We owe all our success in the NBA to Larry
Bird to Magic Johnson. They're the two most important people
in the NBA history. They're the reason the NBA makes
some money. They obviously Michael took it to a whole
the level, but it went for Matthew Johnson Larr Bird,
the NBA wouldn't be what it was today, plain and simple.

Speaker 6 (51:05):
What if Bird doesn't injury this back, Well.

Speaker 10 (51:08):
He stid one of the greatest players ever. I mean,
you know, is it a what was it a ten
year career? I think it was more than that. But
you have to factor in though then the physicality of
the game. We all had to go to college for
three and four years. You know, these guys number one,
bless these guys, they make a deal how long they play.
Number one, they never went to college. And also there's

(51:31):
no physicality. You have to factor in. These guys played.
I played three years of college. I think Bird played
four years of college. Michael played three years of college.
Tim Duncan played four years of college. David Robinson played
four years of college. So you guys talk about well,
these guys they like I say, and listen, it's a
different game now because no physicality. But you have to

(51:54):
factor in all the years some of these guys lost
going to college. I think Bird went to college. I
mean went to two or three schools I remember correct
before I went to in down the state. Uh because uh,
but so but bird Man, he was amazing.

Speaker 6 (52:10):
It feels like there's all there's probably more stories about
Bird that are told than any other player.

Speaker 4 (52:16):
Because he was the best trissed talker ever, you know,
you know.

Speaker 10 (52:21):
So, So Leon Wood was one of my teammates, and
We're sitting in the locker room getting ready for the
three point shooting contests, and I was kind of just
talking to Leon, trying to calm him down and get
all these three point shooters in there. Bird comes in
and says, which one of you is gonna come in
second place? Like, which one of you gonna come in

(52:47):
second place?

Speaker 6 (52:48):
So first words through the door?

Speaker 10 (52:50):
Which one of you don't come in second place?

Speaker 5 (52:54):
Dan?

Speaker 6 (52:58):
It was over.

Speaker 4 (52:58):
I'm sitting around. Nobody said nothing.

Speaker 10 (53:04):
It was one of the best scenes. I was like,
I'm looking around. I'm not in the contest, so I
can't say anything. Nobody said a word, and I says, Man,
I wish we had casinos.

Speaker 4 (53:17):
We could bet on them.

Speaker 10 (53:20):
Gonna win this three point shooting contest because nobody said
a thing. I mean, I was like, this thing is over,
this is a rap.

Speaker 6 (53:29):
Did Larry and Doctor j ever talk about that fight
that they had?

Speaker 4 (53:33):
So I'm still mad that the NBA found me.

Speaker 6 (53:35):
Yeah, you were holding I wasn't up.

Speaker 4 (53:38):
See.

Speaker 10 (53:38):
I grabbed him to break it up. I didn't know
Doc was punching him. I just remember Bert Chuck, y'all
better get this old man of me. What are you
say about doctor Jake? Yeah, Chuck killing him too, Yo, Man,

(54:00):
y'all better get this old man of me. He says,
just five, six, seven times. Doc is grinding now, trying
to stop him. He and Bird rolling. I'm gonna kill
this old man if y'all don't get him off me.
And next thing I know, Doc just snaps and I

(54:23):
just grabbed Bird. I'm still mad. I'm telling the NBA
find me for a whole I said, first of all,
I would never hold somebody lest somebody.

Speaker 4 (54:29):
I didn't know. I just tried to break it up.
I didn't know Doc was punching it.

Speaker 10 (54:33):
But man, after he said about the fifth or sixth time,
by get this old man off me, Doc just snapped.

Speaker 6 (54:39):
So Larry's taking it to doctor Jack.

Speaker 8 (54:41):
Jack.

Speaker 10 (54:41):
This might be Doc's last year. He was one of
his last couple. You may been this last year. And
Bird just killing him and talking trash the whole time.
And boy, Doc just.

Speaker 6 (54:51):
Snapped, did they ever talk about this?

Speaker 4 (54:54):
No? No, nothing to talk about.

Speaker 6 (55:02):
I don't know if Larry would ever say, you know what? No,
I'm sorry. I shouldn't know.

Speaker 4 (55:06):
Man, then try I know.

Speaker 6 (55:08):
But there's doctor j He's royalty.

Speaker 4 (55:12):
Let me tell you something. Treat him.

Speaker 10 (55:13):
Let me tell you something about this. Let me tell
you something about the Sickers and the Celtics. My first experience.
So you know these old Vets, Doc Bobby Jones re
seeks moses, they don't care about the preseason. It's just
like basically a glorified scrimmage. So we played like the
first four or five games we go to play the Celtics. Guys,

(55:37):
is goofing around the first four or five exhibition games.
That's not a sound going on. I pulled Andrew Tony aside.
I says, is somebody sick or heard or something? He says,
it's the Celtics. And I said, what he says, it's

(55:58):
the Celtics preseason. Every time we played the Celtics, it
was a different vibe. Anytime we played the Lakers, it
was different because Moses was gonna try to kill Kareem
because Kareem was and Moses did something Moses thought he
never got his just do it. I don't believe they
got it either. But when we played the Celtics man

(56:20):
regular season playoffs, it was a different vibe in the building.

Speaker 4 (56:25):
It was it was.

Speaker 6 (56:27):
It's great to see you, hey, man, good luck.

Speaker 4 (56:30):
Hey, I'm proud of you. Dan.

Speaker 10 (56:33):
You know your career. To have a career as long
as you've had it, you have to be talented, number one.
You have to have a great work ethic and people
have to like you. How many years you've been doing
this now?

Speaker 6 (56:47):
Probably forty? Asty Man, you like me?

Speaker 4 (56:50):
Man, You're gonna go your whole life without working.

Speaker 6 (56:53):
I'm on a six to the guys, I'm with this.

Speaker 4 (56:56):
No I work. It's like stealing Dan, this is work.

Speaker 6 (56:59):
It's like still, yeah, this isn't exactly your Phoenix Suns
team that this is my Philadelphic team, the team you
wanted out of.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
That's right, you know this?

Speaker 10 (57:12):
Yeah, oh you know it's so funny. Jimmy line and
one of my favorite people. One of my Billy con
is my best coach I've ever had. Two of my
favorites are Rudy tom Jonovich and Jim Lineham. We're playing
the Sultans in the playoffs. I says, Jim, look out
there right before a tip off. That's Bert mckel in Parish.

(57:34):
I got Shelton Jones.

Speaker 4 (57:35):
I'm a new He says, good luck. I love Jim.
Every time I see him. He says good.

Speaker 6 (57:46):
Luck, good luck, And I'll leave you with that.

Speaker 4 (57:49):
I'll leave you with that. Hey, guys, thanks for having brother.

Speaker 6 (57:51):
Thank you man. All right, thank you Charles. Oh he's great.

Speaker 4 (57:55):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (57:56):
He gave us, you know, half hour of this time,
busy day Polden, different directions. But I do love that.
You know, when people say he forced his way out
of Philadelphia to Phoenix, well look at who he had.
He had his front line didn't exactly match up with
the Boston Celtics there with Bird, McHale and Parish. And
even when Charles finished hit the conversation, the interview, he's

(58:19):
still telling us that story as he's walking off our
stage here and he's like, damn if they had Bird
McHale and Parish. I had minute and Shelton Shelton Jones.
I went, wait, Shelton Jones. He went to Saint John's.
He's like, yeah, that's Shelton Jones. Yeah.

Speaker 10 (58:35):
Marvin Shelton Jones played one year in the NBA in
the in the nineteen eighty eight season for the Philadelphia
seventy six ers.

Speaker 6 (58:43):
Yeah, but he was there with Charles against Bird, McHale
and Parish. Even that conversation where he's talking about Bird
trash talking doctor J. And this is late in Dock's
career and Larry's, you know, tearing him up. And that's
when he kept saying to Charles he was talking about
doctor J. And then doctor J had had enough, grabs

(59:06):
Bird by the throat, and Charles grabs Larry. Not realizing
that doctor J is pounding Larry. I was like, oh
my god, Alex Caruso of the Oklahoma City Thunder will
stop by, and the great comedian Nate Bergetzi will join
us as well.

Speaker 11 (59:24):
Yes see, I got a big problem with the way
Larry Bird treated Doctor J.

Speaker 4 (59:28):
I do too.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
I got a big.

Speaker 6 (59:30):
Problem with that. But that's what I was saying to Charles.
I mean calling him an old man. I mean I
understand Larry that, you know, with trash talking. That's doctor J.

Speaker 11 (59:40):
I feel like the entire Sixers team should have punched
Larry Bird in their face, not just doctor J. Everybody
should have punched him in the baby talked to him
like that, that was wrong with you,
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