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(01:09):
to get to Major League Baseball in the spotlight. Kevin
Durant has hurt again, but t J we have an
NFL draft that is less than two weeks away, and
things are really starting to heat up. We know what's
gonna happen at one, and we think we know what's
gonna happen at two, but after that it could be
chaos as the draft is soon here, man, I'm excited.

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Or could it be a beautiful mystery? Yeah, there's there's
a lot to dive into. And and I mentioned we
know what's gonna happen at number one, and we we
all assume that Trevor Lawrence is going to be the
pick of the Jacksonville Jaguar so much so that would
within the past hour, Trevor Lawrence is actually tweeted a
thank you to Jaguar fans who sent him a bunch

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of wedding gifts for the wedding that he in his
high school sweetheart ad So that egg Wire fans are
are are really really trying to pour it on heavy
to Trevor Lawrence. He says that they'll make a twenty
dollar donation to Jacksonville charities. So we think that that's
that match is gonna be made in heaven. We figured
that that was gonna be the match as soon as

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the Jacksonville Jaguars secured the first overall pick in the draft.
And what's amazing about how this whole draft process has
has gone on, in my mind, is that for us
great of a talent that Trevor Lawrence is, we haven't
spoken really about him because it was such a foregone
conclusion and and that's what's blown my mind up until
this week with his peace with with Sports Illustrator. But TJ.

(02:38):
I can't remember a guy who was more heralded and
has really kind of gotten less pub because we've known
it's a it's a short thing, like we've known that
he's going to Jacksonville, and it's such a weird sort
of thing because usually we're hyping up the first overall pick,
but because we've known it for so long, we've already
moved on to picks two, three, and four. One say,

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does Urban Meyer become the coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars
if they don't have the first pick? Absolutely not. He
Irban Meyer didn't come back to coach because he wanted
to be the coach of Jack's. He came back to well,
he went to the NFL because he wants to coach
Trevor Lawrence. That's how good people assume Trevor Lawrence is

(03:24):
going to be and it's not good. They They assume
he's going to have a great NFL career. And I've
had the privilege to be around Trevor Lawrence leading up
to this draft process. Dude, he's a great person. Like
we're not even talking football. Let's put that to the side.
Trevor Lawrence is a great dude, man Like, he's a

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people person. Um, I just like him as a person.
I'm pulling for him. I hope he does succeed. But
the talent speaks for itself and just the way he
is as a human being. It gets no better than that.
And I and I wasn't around him a ton. I
was around him enough and communicated with him enough to
realize this dude is a great person. So would you

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hear Trevor Lawrence tell s I dot Com quote, It's
not like I need this for my life to be okay.
I want to do it because I want to be
the best I can be. I want to maximize my potential.
Who wouldn't want to You kind of wasted if you
don't going on to say, it's hard to explain that
because I want people to know that I'm passionate about
what I do and it's important to me. But I
don't have this huge chip on my shoulder that everyone's

(04:29):
out to get me and I'm trying to prove everyone wrong.
So you hear that, the rest of the world seems
to be up in arms over that. When you hear
that from Trevor Lawrence, what is your response, I have
no problem with it. Guys that have chip on our
shoulders are guys like me. Uh, you drafted later than
you think you should be, Um, nobody really thinks you

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can play. Those are the guys that have chips on
our shoulders. Baker Mayfield, you gotta walk on chip on
your shoulder. When nobody believes in you but yourself and
those close to you. That's a chip on the shoulder
type of person. But when you've been heralded. He was

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a number two quarterback in the country coming out of
high school behind Justin Fields. You go to Clemson and
you start as a freshman after a few games a
bench to start it from the previous year, Kelly Brian
who had played pretty damn good, So why would he
have a chip on his shoulder? Self? Motivation is the

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best motivation. I don't need outside forces motivate me, because
when those outside forces stop motivating me, where is it
going to come from. I need to be self motivated.
And that's what he is. I have no problem with
it at all, and I don't know why others would
have a problem with it. They really listened to what

(05:53):
he said and dove into it and started to think,
it's you want to be self motivated if outside forces
motivates you when Nett is no longer there than what Yeah,
this this that, this is the problem. And this is
kind of the problem with the draft, the whole draft processes,
because it's it's not taking it out of contact, it's

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it's context. It's taking it somewhere that it never was
in the first place. You talked about being around Trevor
Lawrence and just knowing him on on the limited basis
that you do when you get your takeaway is that
he's a great, great person. I don't know Trevor Lawrence.
I've never met Trevor Lawrence, so I haven't spoken with
Trevor Lawrence. But to your point about where he was

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coming out of high school, being the second highest rated
recruit in that draft class, so winning that national title
after you said, taking over for Kelly Bryant, for making
it to the college football playoffs, for fighting to try
to get the season to be played last year, to
continue to play this past season too, to come down
with COVID nineteen and then continue to play some more
like the the guy is has been through and a lot,

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but all of those processes have worked out. So to me,
it's amazing to think TJ, that somebody would say, Man,
I I don't like the way that he's motivated when
he's been an absolute success at every single level. And
and and that's like the that's what this whole draft
process is. And it happens a lot in the NBA,
where sometimes the more you know about a guy heading

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into the NBA draft, the less that you want because
you want to kind of, you know, have the complete
unknown and maybe you've just found this diamond in the
rough like the Bucks did with Janice years ago, and
now you have this franchise player. But if you kind
of know what a guy is, sometimes in the NBA
you're like, well, we kind of think what we know
what he is, we'd rather go with the unknown. And

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and and I didn't know if that was leaking into
the NFL, because I don't I just don't understand how
Trevor Lawrence could have a knock against him and for
a guy that we haven't spoken about for the last
two months for this to become an issue. To me,
it's more it more fails the hype that we put
around the NBA NFL Draft than anything that we would
with any quarterbacks process, no matter if it's trouble lards,

(08:03):
justin fields or whoever. So this is what's gonna happen.
Everybody's gonna be a Monday morning quarterback if he has
it's so so ricky here, it's oh, he's not motivated.
He he doesn't have the chip on his shoulder right
a new seater. We knew it pre draft. We talked
about this, blah blah blah blah blah. He has a
great rookie here and a great career. See this is

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what I'm talking about. The guy just loves the game.
You know, he didn't have the chip on his shoulder.
He was self motive. So they're gonna play both sides
of defense regardless of how his career goes. And so
he he can't win for losing regardless of and nobody
wants to see him fail. And I and I believe
he's going to succeed in a major way. And when

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he does, mark my words, you're gonna see the guys
on TV saying, oh, we knew this was coming. That
the guys that bashed them, they're gonna act like they
never said anything wrong about him. And so you just
you can't have it both ways. But they're going to
have it both ways because they're gonna act like they
never said anything negative about it. I would rather a

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guy that is self motivated, that wants to win and
succeed because of himself and his teammates and his family
and friends over people that he does not know that
are saying negative things about him. And so Trevor Lawrence
is gonna be fine. They gotta get weapons an the
Jacksonville Jaguars have the number one picked for a reason.

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So he's going to an organization in the team that
needs a ton of help. And it's not just Trevor Lawrence.
They need a ton of help. And if they get
that for him, he will have success. And if they
do not, he was n't self, I mean, he wasn't
the guy that had the big chip on his shoulder.
That's why he didn't succeed. That's gonna be the narrative
and it's unfortunate, but I believe that's how it will
play out. You know. The The interesting part of that is,

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I mean, I think from from what the Jaguars were
and he said there there's a lot that needs to
be there. The one thing that they did that was
James Robinson last year, who are in the football pretty well,
Jaguars did sign in the offseason Carlos Hide to kind
of be the the you know, the the other running
back in that backfield, and we know what urban Meyer
wants to do. Let's run the football. I mean, that's

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they're they're going to So so when you look at
also the scenario, what I'm curious about t J is
is the style of play when he goes to Jacksonville.
If if he has a modest season, is this stuff
going to be popping up again, because that's how Jacksonville
is gonna have to win the game. I think win

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games by giving it to James Robbinson, by giving it
to Carlos Hide and letting Drebbor Lawrence do what he
has done with his legs. But if he has a
modest season, does this stuff pop up then after his
rookie campaign. It really depends on you know when you
say modest season, uh the turnovers? Did he improve from

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the first game to the last game? And so if
you see improvement in it's modest, you can see the
progressions being made in him as a player, if he
can take care of the football. It really just depends
on your definition of modests and people's expectations. So sure
you look at it, and expectations are gonna be high.

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And I tell you why, not only because he's the
number one pick, but you look at what Justin Herbert
did last year, and you look at what Burrow was
doing before he got hurt. He's going to have to
play to that level because that's what the guys that
came before him just did the year prior. So he's
gonna have the show. Okay, I can do this, Herbert

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bawled out. Burrow would have been the Rookie of the
year had he not torn his a c L And
so he has a lot to live up to because
the quarterbacks the year prior played very well and they
weren't as heralded as Trevor Lawrence is yeah, you know,
I just think I just think that Herbert and Burrow

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and where they were in their offense is we're able
to air it out because of where those teams were.
I mean, I mean when you look at the talent
that the Chargers had for Herbert to throw, too, when
you look at what what Joe Burrow had around him
at least at the skill position, uh spots with the Bengals,
and it was Zach Taylor and his head coach. And

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I shouldn't I shouldn't say modest. Maybe maybe muted is
the right phrase just where, because I just don't think
that Urban you know, Urban Meyer is going to air
it out. I think there's gonna be a lot of
Trevor Lawrence when you have the first overall pick and
you have that guy that stature, He's going to be
a big part of it. But I just wondered too
of how much, you know, their offense would be like

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what Justin Herbert did with the Chargers or what Joe
Burrow did, because to me, it seems like maybe Jacksonville's
path to getting more than one victory in a season
is by running the football, and that's the only thing
that that that that I wonder, that's you know, that
seventeen games in the future will have to the to
the sky us that But I just the point that

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I guess I'm trying to make with all of this
is there was no fault to his own that he
you know, he made these comments and we ended up
you know, blowing them up again and talking about it
so much so that he had to write a clarification
in it tweet yesterday it's are we gonna have to
you know, deal with this again, you know, in six
months or you know, at the end of the season.

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That's the only thing that I I just I wonder
unless it's just you know, ends up going by the
wayside and we forget about this sort of thing. It's
ridiculous no matter what. But I just know, when you
have these draft classes, as you say, when you're comparing
to these players, if if a guy's numbers aren't as
as as great as the other guys, there's always going
to be a conversation to be had, why isn't he

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doing this there? Why isn't he doing better than that guy?
And that's what I just wonder. What could happen with
Trevor Lawrence in an offense that may not be as
wide open as the other ones. They're gonna obviously, that's
what I said earlier, and it sucks, but it is
what it is. When you have the first pick, you're
you're not one player away, you're a You're a few

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just to be competitive, and you you need difference makers.
Trevor Lawrence is the first piece and becoming a difference maker.
But the Jags, I mean, who who's their best receiver?
DJ Shark is their best receiver from l S you
and so they're gonna have to get weapons around Trevor Lawrence.

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But it's it's not it's not gonna be an easy thing.
Offensive coordinator Darryl Bevil what kind of offense is he
going to install? And you you would think he's been
a great coach with the Vikings and the Seahawks last
year being an o C for the Detroit Lions and
an interim head coach. Is he going to watch what

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he did well at Clemson and implement some of that?
You would believe, So you want to make this transition
and smoothest possible add to your offense what he does best.
But you you want to run your offense, and so
they need playmakers, and you spoke up adding Carlos High.
They need an offensive line. You look at their division,

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the Coats are strong defensively. The Tennessee Titans are pretty
good defensively, but they're really good offensively. Houston. You you
don't know what what's gonna happen with the Houston Texas
and so they're in a division that that's not an
easy division. But the first step is win in your division.
The king of your division is the Tennessee Titans. In

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the Indianapolis coach, you have to be prepared to beat
them just to be relevant. And so how do you
go about doing that? You add the weapons around them.
That's a start, but it's not gonna be easy. You know.
You know how I know this is this is bull
It's because after he wrote his response yesterday or for clarification,

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I think there are some that are saying, well, why
do you need a clarification? Then? You know, like you know,
like like he can't win, like if if if you're
so sell you know, they're they're saying, well, if you're
so self confident, why did you need to clarify what
you said? Like that. That is the knowing situation that
you become in in the ugly gutter field world of
social media. In draft talk, I don't think he needed

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to clarify. He wanted to. He wanted to make sure
that everybody understood what he you know, what he meant.
But I think what he said the sports illustrated what
was clear enough. And if you get it, you get it,
and if you don't, you don't, who cares. You still
have to play when when when whistle blows, it's eleven
on eleven, you still have to line it up and

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either you get it done or you don't. All the
talk prior, all the talk after does not matter. If
when that whistle blows you play like trash, you're gonna
be talked about like trash. And if you ball out,
you're gonna be talked about like you bawled out. And
so that's all that matters. Um, do what you gotta
do when the whistle was blown, and all this negative

(17:07):
talk we'll turn into positive and all the positive talk
will remain positive. And that's just what sports is about.
And that's what we do now, um, because I guess
I am a member of the media. Now is you
you you have to talk about these things. Um, it
is good to talk about. But when you have a

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good head on your shoulders and you are genuinely a
good person, the majority of the time, things work itself out,
and I believe it will for Trevor Lawrence. He's t J.
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He's t J houshman Zada. I'm Dan Buyer with you,
t J. Sitting in for George Rice Stir today. Glad
to have you with us. We are talking NFL and

(20:46):
we'll be talking NFL drafting just a little bit with
Rick Sarah Tella, NFL Draft Bible founder the o g
and get an inside look at what is going to
transpire in less than two weeks. To ranked the top
five quarterbacks in your mind, t J? In this draft?
How how would you rank them? Wow? I would go, uh,

(21:08):
Trevor Lawrence, Zack Wilson, Justin Fields, Trey Lance, mac Jones,
or Kelly mind O, Kellvin mand maybe even slipping in
with mac Jones. Why is it? Why? Why did everybody
have this mac Jones? Um? You know, affinity? And I
shouldn't say everyone because not everybody did. But but but

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why does he shoot up as quickly as he did?
He was extremely accurate? Um A'labama had a great season.
So anytime my team has a great season, the quarterback
is gonna get a lot of the credit. Um, whether
that's right or wrong, that that's just what's gonna happen.
But he he had a good year. He had a
good year, and I'm not going to take away the guy.

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I don't think, and I could be wrong, and I've
said this before. Has there ever been a quarterback in
a history of college football that has played with two
top or excuse me, four top fifteen drafted receivers in
consecutive years. I don't know. With Henry Ruggs, Jerry Judy

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and this year you would assume Devonte Smith and jay
Len Wattle. Which quarterback in the history of the league
has done this in college football and transitions NFL? And
so he had guys that he was throwing the ball to,
real good guys. But you have to throw the ball
to protection is there. And so you could arguably say

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he can get to the NFL and play with lesser
talent at the receiver position that he had in college football.
The Alabama is just so much better than everyone. And
it's not like this this is the thing, and I
think that you're right about just Alabama being good, But
it's not like Alabama has this long storied history of
producing quarterbacks in the NFL. They don't. It's actually it's

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considering where Alabama is when you see their track record
of quarterbacks, you're actually kind of shocked that it is
what it is. But what I think happened is I
think that when San Francisco traded up, I blame Chris
Sims soley for this. And it's not as much blame
because Chris sims is saying what what he knows. But

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that's when it came out that hey, Matt Jones, they're
trading up they want to get Mac Jones, or that
Christims believed that Mac Jones was going to be the
guy at three, and I think that changed everything. And
when I said earlier with the NBA Draft, sometimes I
feel like teams would rather not know about a guy
than actually, do you really think like Mac Jones may

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turn out to be a fantastic player? Do you like?
I me personally, I have a hard time believing that
the forty Niners will give up what they gave up
to go draft Mac Jones. I have a hard time
believe in it. You're gonna give up all that draft

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capital to draft Mac Jones. And when you watch the tape,
he under threw a ton of deep balls. Those guys
just made the plays he under threw quite a few
of the deep balls. They just made the play. And again,
Alabama doesn't. Nick Saban does a great job of getting
these kids better and developing them, because when they come

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into the NFL, do they do what they did in
college at the NFL level? In my opinion, it's absolutely not.
And so you look at the four receivers of our name,
and then you look at the running back Nagy Harris.
He played with five potentially five first round guys in
the skilled position. For who's done that, I mean the

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season that Joe Burrow had him. He had Jamaar Chase
first round, Justin Jefferson first round, Edward c. Larry was
the last pick in the first round. That's three and
that offense was fantastic. And so, uh, you got five
guys were talking. Man, they better make sure they hit
on this because as great of a coach as I

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believe Shanahany is, if they draft Mac Jones and Justin
Fields is that dude, which I believe he will be,
it's not gonna look good. Let's let's pick this up
at the top of the hour. He's t J Hushman Zada,
I'm dan buyer. This is Fox Sports Sunday joining us
now to talk about the NFL Draft, And I'll pose
the question that I just posed to t J to Rick.

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Sarah Tella, who's the o G, the founder of the
NFL Draft Bible, joins us on this Sunday to talk
NFL Draft. What's happening? Rick, how are you? What's happen
in Fellas? How are you? Yeah? Alright, So I throw
this to t J. Rank your top five quarterbacks of
this draft. I would like you to do the same, Rick,
in order from one to five. Sure, yeah, I mean
to me, it's Trevor Lawrence all day long, right. I

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think there's a significant drop off after that. I think
these quarterbacks are all getting pushed up the board significantly
because of team meat. And so, you know, you have
sixteen teams that are gonna have a new starting court
or back week one, right there, all trying to get
a new quarterback that they're gonna get pushed up the board. However,
Zack Wilson's gonna go number two. I've got justin fields numbers.
To me, he's the most polished guy. He's ready to

(26:10):
step in. He can play immediately, he can make all
the throws. This guy's got toughness, he's got grittiness, he's
got performance against top caliber teams. Like to me, Justin
Fields is the number two guy. I get the award
with Zach Wilson, and I think they're very close. To me.
Zack Jack Wilson is number three because you've got to
be all in. You've got to You've got to now

(26:31):
build the offense around the quarterback. And if you do that, well,
then hey, he's feeling is so high. You know, you
do the Tuyler Murray type of own offense. You're building
around him and he can be very successful. So I
have Zack Wilson three. Uh. Number four for me, I'm
gonna go with Trey Lambs, even though I do have
a bias against one year starter. They never pan out.
The most successful one has been Mitchell Trobinsky. You can

(26:52):
call Mark Sanchez. Uh. You know, it's hard, it's hard
to make that transition, but I get it right because
he has all the tools. However, that that that showcase
game I saw against North Dakota State play this year.
It was ugly looking, so I think there's a lot
of work that needs to be done. He's a guy
that needs to be grooms and if you get it right,
get the tight well, hey, he could be kind of

(27:12):
like Archie before three got injured. If you remember that.
And then number five for me? You know, I gotta
be honest, guys, Kellen moment, he see what I'm saying. Rick,
You all right, man, I'm cutting you off, but you
all right with me? Kellen mom Like nobody's talking about
this man. He went down to the Senior Bowl. He

(27:34):
had an outstanding league. He's also won big games. That
game against Larry where he outplayed Kyle Tress. To me,
I would not be surprised if Kellen mon slides into
the first round. Hey, Ray, could you hear us when
I gave my top five? Now I I caught the
tail end. I caught the telling. Wow, that's pretty good. Well,
if you're you're to San Francisco forty Niners and you

(27:57):
are in that front office, who are you drafted? I
would assume from your list? I have an idea, And
who do you believe the forty Niners are targeting? You know,
I think it's between Justin Fields and mean personally again,
I think Justin Field is ready to step in compete
immediately and the forty Niners are are probably not necessary

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looking for that because Jimmy Garoppolo is somewhat of a
manageable quarterback contract compared to some of these other Signal colors.
So I think that Matt Jones is gonna be the selection. However,
I would not be surprised if it's justin fields. I'm
not even sure San Francisco knows at just the point
in time. I'm being honest with the guys. I think
they're still trying to figure it out. But for me, again,

(28:40):
justin fields maturity, leadership, ability, that's that's stuff that dan
Orlaski put out. There is nothing but hot wash. And
you know, I'm happy that Kirk Kerkstree came to defense
a little ESPN on ESPN Crime, I don't want Fox Sports,
but hey, you know, listen, you can't just be talking
out of the side of your neck about justin t
its preparation like they wouldn't even be a thick ten season.

(29:02):
They're much for justin fields, and so, I mean, it's
how it is all the time when when comes around
draft time, every you start hearing this, you start hearing
that you're really you don't know what to believe, you
don't know, is it this guy? Is that guy? But
us offensive players, we always get the majority of the press.

(29:27):
Who's your top defensive player in this draft? Mm hm,
that's a good question. I think from a talent standpoint,
it's hard not to say Michael Parsons. I mean this,
this guy just does it. Although he covers around sidelines
to sidelines. You can even use them, you know, integed,
you can use them in situational pass rushing, you can
use them an you can imagine. So you know, for me,

(29:50):
it's Michael Parsons, I think, But there there is some stuff,
you know, some snookes signals they're off the field, like
he could slide, and if he does, like I wouldn't
be surprised if the Daven Collins from Tulsa or Christen
Barmore the defensive tackle there is the first, you know,
defensive player off the board. And those are two guys
that not a lot of folks are talking about. And

(30:12):
I think that the defensive tackles interesting because there's not
a lot of them, and so if you want one,
you're gonna have to read or take them early. But
for me, you know, it's Michael Parsons, Daven Collins from Tulsa,
I like a lot. I'm actually a J. C. Horn,
South Carolina from cornerback then and here Patrick Curtane and
so you know, those are those are my top contenders.
And the addressers, you know, it's just like, hey, what's

(30:34):
your flavor of the week. But none of these guys
are coming in making an immediately intact Rick Sara Tella
joining us here on Fox Sports Sunday. He's t J
Housh Manzada. I'm Dan Buyer, of course, Rick of the
NFL Draft Bible, the founder of that t J mentioned defense.
I'm gonna jump back to offense, but not skill position

(30:54):
specifically with Penney Schewell. His name Rick and I and
and he's been in that top ten. But I thought
entering last season before he opted out, that Sewell was
thought to be a top three guy. Now we're saying
maybe top ten. Who knows about that? Could he have
benefited from playing in twenty and is his that had

(31:15):
any reason why we're maybe not as high on Penay
Seul as we were, you know, twelve or fifteen months ago. No,
I think it's just the curse of the quarterbacks are
getting pushed up right so that somebody's got a slide slide,
you know, it's just pen a school to me, like
I know, the scout slow when I saw two years
ago down on the field when they had five or
six guys either address signed by NFL teams, they won't

(31:39):
gravitated to this one guy who's just bullying his teammates
like this. This is before the game and he's stocking
his old teammates to ground like angry, like being a
and and his teammates are eleven it and he's a
Sooner school. At the time, I'm saying, who the heck
is this guy? And it was Paul and so like
to me, he's a he's a blue chipper. He laid
down film like you know, him playing this year wasn't

(31:59):
gonna increases like he already laid down the field. It's
all there. It's all good. And to me, like the
martis uh, you know, Penney Sel, these are blue chip
type of talent and that's just how that stuff comes.
So like Rassons later too, like give him credit because
I remember talking to his camp, you know, back in
the summer and they're like, yeoh, you know, we're good,

(32:20):
like you know Rassan is gonna be the top twenty guy.
We're not doing anything. Oh okay, well guess what. There's
some talk maybe even Miami could take over songs later
over a penny so because two is lefty, so you
might even see rasons later come off the board first.
But for me, Penney Schuel is the real deal. Eric,
let me ask you about your Hub football camps. Man,

(32:40):
can you elaborate on you guys are trying to fill
a void by connecting player and team. Um, you got
any diamonds in a rough we need to be on
the lookout for. I know you guys have camps trying
to identify talent that kind of going under the radar.
Um talk to us about that. Yeah, it's been a
great experience. Arians were Darnie the agents to Tom Brady

(33:02):
and Sean Paynton and so many great players. And he
realized that, you know, you talk to some of these agents.
The hardest stories you hear hand. They flagged my guy in.
They put him up for six days NFL PU to
change the prudal call. They put him in who comes
for another five days, They changed the rules again, they
sent them home and then he never even got in
the building for the workout, you didn't mean get into
the facility. So they flew them in. They put them
up for eleven days, never even got a chance to

(33:23):
work out. So it gets costly for these NFL teams,
you know t J every Tuesday, they're bringing intention guys.
Well to do that in coop it it's very costly.
So we bring the talent out here and the teams
come out here. It's more cost effective and we've got
a great Scott and department. Brandon Marshall, the linebacker from
the Burncos was out here today trying to make a comeback,

(33:43):
you know, off of the injury last camp. We had
Shane Ray. He winded up signing up with the Toronto Argonauts.
Louis Perez was here today, the quarterback from from XFL
Alliance league with Brands last year. And so you know
it's it's really a great events and you know the
NFL teams are finding out about it. We had um

(34:04):
the Panthers out here, uh on the spot. They signed
the running back Darus Clark that the most feel, put
him in the bleachers and signed them in the spot.
So you know, the Hub Football camp hub football dot
Com we're doing another one May three for the draft
eligibles because again there's gonna be New York tryouts there.
It'll be closer to the September, not like the traditional

(34:26):
May rookie camps. He's Rick Sarah Tella again Hub Football
Camp and also obviously the reason we have him on
NFL Draft Bible. Find him on Twitter at Rick Sarah Tella.
Also at NFL Draft Bible. You could go there as well. Rick.
We appreciate the time. Should be a fund next couple
of weeks. We'll talk to against June. Yeah, we gotta
do it again, fellas. Thank you so much. Thank you, Rick,

(34:46):
appreciate you guys on that Kellen Mond hype train. Try
to tell you hopefully either great minds thinker like or
bad mins are awful. East t JAS with dot I've
Dad Buyer. This is Fox Sports Sunday. You know, it's
funny with the quarterback rankings because and and and we're
gonna talk again more at the top of the hour.

(35:09):
But it's not even the quarterbacks. T J. I've I've
always love the mock drafts now. I kind of feel
that we're getting too many, like there are there are
people who are making mock drafts that shouldn't make mock drafts,
and I would include myself in it, because if I'm
making a mock draft, I'm just putting all skill position
players like in those spots because those are the guys

(35:29):
that I recognize what I'm watching college football on on Saturdays,
and a defender may stand out here and there, but
I'd be lying to you if I'm sitting there breaking
down offensive lineman. But this year, I think it's gonna
be like one of those bad Vegas beat days where
ever you know, the public is on one team and
that team ends up winning. I think a lot with
the With the amount of skill position players that you

(35:50):
could have go in that top ten, it's unlike anything
that I can remember in any recent drafts. And I
just think you're gonna see a run on whether it
beat quarterbacks, with the reb on wide receivers are tight ends.
With Kyle Pitch, I I just think it's gonna be
a draft like we've never seen before. The draft is
always it's an event, especially the first round, and so

(36:13):
the guys that make the headlines are the guys that
score testing owns, are the guys that we see on
the highlights on on Saturdays, and for the most part
it's been the quarterbacks, receivers, running backs, and even the
tight ends. And so those are the guys that tend
to get drafted earlier. But I'm a real football guy.
Games are one and loss up front. And if if

(36:35):
you can't stop anyone um for running the ball, and
you can't get to the quarterback, you're gonna have a
hard time defensively, and vice versa. If you can protect
the quarterback and you can run the ball, you're gonna
have a ton of success. That's just the way the
game of football is played. Um, they don't get the credit.
They for sure get the contract, and I'm sure that's

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(37:18):
t J sitting for George Rice Stir today, Big day tomorrow.
T J. For one of your former teams, the team
where you spent the majority of your career. The Cincinnati
Bengals will unveil their brand new uniforms tomorrow nine o'clock
Eastern time. Have you seen any of the leaks or
or what the new uniform could possibly be? T j

(37:41):
Are you asking me that question because you know something
that I don't know? Hey, listen there, listen. There are
some jerseys that were put out like in sporting goods stores. Um,
I'm a little participating in the jersey review. Well really
okay to be in Cincinnati, but I'm going to do
a virtually and because I am a man of my word,

(38:05):
right behind me, I actually have a jersey. Really okay,
all right? But because like I said, I'm a man
of my word, they sent me the jersey and I
haven't even opened it up. I told them I would
not open it up until tomorrow, and I'm gonna stick
to that. I haven't even opened it up. The jersey
has been in my house for a few days now

(38:26):
and it's still sitting in the box. Uh, hasn't been opened. Jeez. Okay,
can you open it up, close your eyes, take a
picture of it, and then send it to us. Because
I listen, take me back to oh four, because you
were on the team when you went to what was
the current about to be old set of uniforms? Was
there excitement back then in two thousand four when you

(38:48):
got new unis? You know what, I don't even recall
that teammate that was on that team, Willie Anderson. He
sent out a video of them modeling the uniforms. And
then I thought to myself, one, I don't remember that
two of all the people, why didn't they invite me out?
Just shows you how much they thought of me at
that time. I wasn't invited out. I believe it was

(39:09):
Willie Anderson, Bobby Williams, Chad and Rudy Johnson. And I'm like,
they're gonna choose those guys and then choose me. So
it shows you what they thought of old T. J.
Houshman's out at that time. But I do recall um
switching jerseys in that season, but I wasn't invited out.

(39:30):
But you are included this time around. And yes, they
made up. They made up for the mistake they made
sixteen seventeen years ago and they're rectifying that mistake. And
so yes, I will be participating bright and early tomorrow. Yeah. So,
so what do you have to do, like you just
you're gonna be like on a zoom call and they're
gonna like just like go to you and open it
or do you know how it's gonna play out. Yeah,

(39:52):
I'm hosting it. Um, I'll tell you exactly who I'm
hosting it with. Here. Let me go through the run
down to you know, just very briefly. Um, just pulling
it up, so bear with me. I'm sorry. No, that's
all right. Nine o'clock Eastern time is when they're going
to unvail and you can see t J be a

(40:14):
part of it, and there's there's it's the best helmet
the NFL, like I wish, I wish they could, uh
if they could use more than one helmet, Like if
they had a white helmet with black stripes, Oh my god,
that will be fire. But you know they the NFL,

(40:34):
they're they're real nit picky on what you're doing. Don't
do Yeah, the one helmet Me and Marissa, No, no, no, no,
not man, um, it would have been awesome. Marissa, I
don't know her last name. I don't want to keep
going through this because that's my training thought. But Marissa,

(40:55):
like Madonna, we're hosting it tomorrow. Um, so it should
be fun. Yeah, I think it's I think it's gonna
be awesome. Nothing against the Bengal actually it is. The
old uniform set was just so dated. It was so
dated it just screamed mid two thousand's and needed to change.
And hopefully the NFL will at one point change their

(41:16):
one helmet rule because it would open up a lot
of different opportunities for other teams, including the Bengals. But
even if it's just the one helmet, I think that
the Bengals have the best helmet in the NFL. And
now with the Jersey leaks that I've seen, and I
don't know if it's official, you know, because you've got it. Well,
you don't know because it's in a box beyond you.
But you'll find out at not o'clock Eastern time tomorrow.
I'm excited actually from what i've what's been teased, I

(41:39):
think they look really they look really good. So yeah,
I like I said, man, they asked me, we're gonna
send you to Jersey. I said, you know what, don't
even worry about it. I'm not gonna open it. I'm
gonna keep it in the box. And I've and I've
done exactly what I told him I would do. He's
a man of his word, and that's what it's all about.

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T J Scott, the brand new Bengals jersey sitting in
a box right behind him, And because he's such a
good guy and a man of his honor and word
that he's not going to open it up until the

(43:27):
Bengals unveil their new uniforms tomorrow morning, and t J
is going to be a part of that. Did they
say like, please don't open it up until Monday, or
you're just saying I want to be surprised, just like
everybody else. No, it was during a discussion. It was
could I fly out there? And I thought I could,

(43:48):
but I had other commitments and so they were like,
can you do it virtually? I'd say, yeah, I can
do it virtually. They said, well, we would like to
send you a jersey. I said, okay, go ahead and
send new jersey. They're like, oh, but if we send
you a jersey, then it won't be a reveal because
others will see it. I said no, no, no, no, no,
don't worry about it. I said, I brought I said,

(44:08):
you send it to me. I won't even open a
box until we go on. And they said okay. And
so I actually said that to the Bengals and they agreed,
all right, okay, again, I could just put the boxes
in a FedEx box has not been opened. Uh do
you think do you think it's got eighty four on it? Oh? Yeah,

(44:29):
I believe. I believe it has not eighty four with
my name on the back. I I believe. So now
I'm not a hundred percent sure, but I believe that's
what it will be. So would actually be a good thing.
So I'll be the first one I have one. That's
oh man, I'm actually more excited. I love uniforms, t J.
If you if you don't know, all I needed was

(44:50):
some shoulder pads and I have been ready to go. Baby.
Oh man, that they look, they're gonna look good, if anything,
is better than what they had. And again with that, hell,
and it's gonna look sharp. So uh, we'll find out
how how right the Bengals did. I think it'll be
a hot seller in the in the NFL this season.
I'm not sure if a Jenevion Clowney Brown's jersey will

(45:12):
be a hot seller. It maybe if Clowney ends up
living up to his UH the expectations that he has
in a one year, eight million dollar deal with two
million dollars worth of incentives. Two million dollars more worth
of incentives UH could be possible in that contract. So
Jenevian Clowney finds a home in the a f C
North in Cleveland. How do you think that works out

(45:35):
for the Browns in the upcoming season? If he can
stay healthy, it's gonna work out great to Dave and
Clowney is disruptive. You look at the sack numbers and say,
oh no, no, he's been a disappointment. He's disruptive. He's
active in a run game, He's in the backfield a ton,
He's creating plays for other all out of the NBA.

(45:56):
He'll get in the backfield and he doesn't get the sack,
but his teammate gets a sack. It's almost like an assist.
And so with his disruption and the way he penetrates
the backfield. Oh and they're always gonna double Miles Garrett,
so he's pretty much gonna get one on one. If

(46:17):
he can stay healthy, the Browns are going to be
tough to beat. Offensive line probably the best in the league. Oh,
b J comes back. Passing game really good, running game
very very good. Where's the weakness there? There? They really
have no weakness. If he can stay healthy, the Cleveland

(46:42):
Browns are going to be very very good. And I
looked at the Clowney shining and you mentioned Myles Garrett.
That's the That's the difference to me as opposed to
what Clowney did in his limited time with the Titans
last year and during his his season that he had
in seatt All was there wasn't anyone opposite him that

(47:04):
drew that attention. And I think that's that That's what's
going to be interesting to see. And while I do
think that it could be a make or break season
for Jenevian Clowney, I don't think that the pressure is
on him, like if if the Browns don't do well, yeah,
it's completely on Baker Mayfield, completely on Baker because if

(47:26):
they don't do well, no one's gonna be like, see,
we shouldn't have given Clowney that eight million dollars. No,
it's gonna be on on the quarterback, who, by the way,
will find out soon of his fifth year option is
going to be picked up. That's going to be picked up.
That would be the case. However, you all of a
sudden then put another year under your belt. Now you've
just got one year with Baker Mayfield, and I know

(47:46):
that the Browns haven't been you know, the the team
that has had a lot of success will just put
it mildy over the moldly over the over the last
few years. But they make the playoffs last year, they
give the Chiefs a run for their money. The you know,
we didn't win any games, or we only won one
game that season, like that to me is a distant memory.
Once you make the playoffs and show fans I believe

(48:08):
will want the product. So the Clowney signing is great
for Clowney, but it just puts more pressure on the
quarterback position because that's the that's the only place that
you could really see and say in point to the
bronze and be like, this is the reason we went up,
or this is the reason we went down. But Baker

(48:28):
lives in pressure. He he welcomes it. And I actually
think Baker he's gonna he's gonna show up. Baker will
show up, and so pressure isn't something that he runs
away from pressure. He likes that ship on his shoulder.
He likes the fact that some are gonna doubt him
and he could play great if they lose. Oh see,

(48:51):
Baker Mayfield didn't win the game, He's gonna take the
blame because of his personality in some of it I
don't agree with. But that path action that he plays with,
I don't mind it at all because he's a quarterback.
He shouldn't have it. Why Why, That's just who he is.
But he has a tremendous amount of talent surrounding him.

(49:17):
He's gonna have to perform. In last year, he did
his part. They won a playoff game. They made the
playoffs for the first time in so many years. Offensive line,
like I said, best in the league. They've taken over
from the Dallas Cowboys of having the best old line

(49:37):
in the league, the best set of running backs on
a team, a good set of receivers depending on how
oh b J comes back, And defensively, they'll get Grant
del Pit back, the Ricky from l S Shoe that
missed the entire season, Denzel Ward you gotta lockdown corner.
They're strong at every level. Man, they don't have a weakness.

(49:58):
They just need to avoid the injuries. And all that's
gonna fall on Baker. He's gonna get way too much
of the credit if they do well, and he'll take
way too much to blame when they when they do bad,
or if they do bad. And that's just what it
is for a quarterback. But I'm very optimistic that the
a f C North Football, if a Joe can come

(50:20):
back healthy and and the Ravens play Ravens football and
the Steators play Staters football, that's gonna be a tough division, man,
very tough. Yeah, you would hope Cincinnati gets better. I'm
not too sure about the base is gonna be better.
The Bengals will be better, for sure, regardless of who
they draft, they're gonna be better. Well. Staelors are always good.

(50:44):
But you look and say, ah, man, my last memory
of Big Ben, it didn't look good. They're not. They
don't have an offensive Their offensive line that was great
four years ago is no longer like there. There's there's
going to there's going to need to be an upgrade there.
They're gonna have to have a running game, you know,

(51:06):
James Conner now in Arizona. Uh, there's they're going to
have to figure out a way to upgrade that. So
it's kind of there for the taking for the Browns
if you kind of look at it that way. I mean,
Steelers lost Bud Dupre to the A c L and
then he you know, leaves via free agency, so so
you're gonna have to replace that production on the defensive side.
It's there for the Browns. But when you say that

(51:27):
you know Baker Baker, I don't want to put words
in your mouth, but saying you know it says that
he thrives on pressure. I don't. I don't disagree. Like
when when we were talking about Trevor Lawrence earlier and
Trevor Lawrence not playing with a chip on his shoulder,
Baker does play with a chip on his shoulder. And
Baker has played with a chip on his shoulder from
being the walk on, from being the transfer from you know,

(51:48):
for all the way for even even I'll put it
this way, not only was it through Oklahoma t J,
but he put a chip on his shoulder in his
rookie season. Because there are people who said that he
shouldn't have in the number one overall pick. But what
happened in year two was to me the part where
you're wondering, saying, Okay, what's what is the real Baker here?

(52:11):
Because he did regress in year two and that was
the first year of Odell Beckham Jr. And I don't
think that it's a coincidence that when O. B J
went out with his knee injury last year and as
Baker became more comfortable in that offense of Kevin Stefanski's,
that there was less pressure on Baker, Like I feel like,
I feel like he puts pressure on himself and there's
pressure on him to feed all of the mouths that

(52:33):
you mentioned, and that's what I wonder if Baker is
going to be able to do that twenty six touchdowns,
eight interceptions last season. But the Browns went on a run,
a bit of a run when O. B J went out,
And now I'm just wondering if because of all the
hype that was there, and that's in Baker's second year,
which was Odell Beckham Juniors first year, I wonder if

(52:54):
that pressure pops up. And I think it's a legitimate
question when you're talking about the Browns and now you
have a successful playoff run, does that chip is that
chip still there for Baker Mayfield? And is that motivation
still there or is you gonna fall back into maybe
I need to you know, feed these these mouthless I
think that's a big question entering this season. Well, it

(53:14):
really comes down to play calling. I believe Kevin Stefanski,
where No b J got hurt, he leaned more to
the run. He wasn't. They weren't throwing the ball as
much as they did before, Oh b J got hurt.
And so take the same approach, You take the same
approach that gave you a playoff berth where you had

(53:36):
the success. And as a receiver, we all want the ball.
But if you're winning games and you're not getting the ball,
you don't like it, but you understand it. And so
that has to be the recipe. You got a good oldline,
you got two really good backs, run the ball and
Baker again, I think his addresses like four to six

(53:58):
eight pressure avenue and can I say four to six sight?
I believe that's the that's that's how many yards he's
gonna throw for this year. And so Baker has been
a guy that has been doubted his entire life. Oh,
you're not big enough, all your arm is not strong enough,
all you're not fast enough. You know, you walk on

(54:21):
and so he needs a harness that at times. But
but the passion is the reason he's in a position
that he's in. But you're a hundred percent correct. He
cannot force the ball to certain guys. You just can't
do that because that's when the mistakes will start to happen.
Let the defense dictate where the ball goes. And if
certain guys don't get the ball, it is what it is.

(54:42):
Because we've shown we can win and get to where
we want to go without certain guys. And no, certain
guys have seen that. And so if you can't come
in and be a part of the team, then guess what,
you just won't be a part of this team. Yeah.
I think that that's the timing of Baker's contract as

(55:03):
well the success of the Browns. Like if if the
Browns with everything that you've said and laid out about
where that franchise is personnel wise, and I would expect
I would expect Baker to get better second season in
Kevin Stefanski's offense, having more more of an understanding, especially
last year and the pandemic sort of world. How crazy

(55:25):
that was to have the success that they had. Uh
it was. You know, kudos to Cleveland for for for
navigating during that time. But if you don't take that
step forward or take that next step, if you stay
the same or even take a slight step back, all
of the the the eyes and fingers in in Cleveland
are gonna be pointing at Baker because that's the time

(55:47):
where then they have to make a decision. Can you
can you wait? Can you allow Baker mayfeel to have
another year and that that fifth year? Do you have
to go and start looking for your next quarterback? Do
you make a deal? How do you how do you proceed?
That's what also makes it's such a big deal. It's
just the timing of it because Cleveland isn't going to

(56:08):
wait for Baker Mayfield. And I'm not saying that he
hasn't arrived yet. I mean Baker played well, he took
the brands. Yeah, it's the problem. It's two guys that
are really killing Baker. It's two guys. It's Carson Wentz
and Jared Golf because they got extensions. I guess you

(56:28):
could say prematurely. So there, oh, hold up, hold away,
We have to make sure rightfully, so because Golf led
his team to the Super Bowl and the team was like,
oh no, this ain't gonna get it done anymore. And
so Baker is gonna have to show more. But luckily
for him, completely different than Golf, golf offensive line started

(56:52):
to take a hit, his run game started to take
a hit. Baker has all of that. Carson Wentz didn't have.
The receiver's offensive line wasn't what it once was. Baker
has all of that, and so I believe he's gonna
play well because if you look at the two guys

(57:15):
that I just named, Carson Wentz and Jared Golf, offensively,
the pieces around him started to decline. It's the opposite
for Baker. Yeah, every everybody's everybody's on the up, everybody's
getting better. And I would also say to the two
guys that you mentioned, it also connects to Baker, not

(57:36):
only because of their contract extensions, but because they were moved.
There was a time eight or ten years ago where
quarterbacks were not moving at all, Like the the landscape
of trying to find your next quarterback was dardnear impossible.
Quarterbacks were just not available in today's NFL. If you

(57:56):
want a guy and he's in a certain situation, you
can go and get him. And that's why it's crucial.
It's not that we're adding pressure to Baker Mayfield. I
just think that we're looking at the scenario and what
he's on him. And while the Clowney signing is a
big deal for the Browns defense, it's an even bigger
deal because it takes away another excuse that could have

(58:16):
been there for Baker Mayfield. If he doesn't come through. Hey,
I'd rather have it than not have it. So Baker,
there's a ton of guys they'd walk to Cleveland. They'd
walk to Cleveland to have the weapons and be the
quarterback of that team. And so, man, it's a privilege.
Take care of that privilege, cherish that privilege, and do

(58:39):
work with that privilege because he has a team around him.
But that division one thing the pittsburghy is gonna do
you talk about they lost Bud Dupre, They're still gonna
play defense. They're still gonna play defense. The Baltimore Ravens,
They're still gonna play defense. Um, if the Bengals can
get a healthy Joe Burrow from the outside offense that

(58:59):
we're gonna play offense. I say week because that's what
I'm The Beagles are gonna play some offense. We gotta
fix that defense. But uh, that division is going to
the a f C North, the NFC West, those divisions,
Oh my goodness, that's gonna be must football every Sunday. Yeah.
I also think the a f C West because with

(59:20):
the Chargers and Herbert on the rise. I don't know
about Denver the Raiders, but I think that the Denver
is gonna be better. I'm not sure necessarily about the
Silver and Black. Let me know when the Raiders raft
somebody high that pans out. Mr Mike Mayock is here.
He is on NFL Network Draft Guru. Where's all that
guru att When he's with the Raiders, we'll see if

(59:41):
they can spend their match. And wrong for saying that,
but it's the truth. In the two weeks he's Techayers
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R to listen live Fox Sports Sunday. I'm Dan Buyer,
He's t J. Hushman Zada. It is a Sunday, and
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(01:00:46):
this Sunday. Hey, Adam, how's it going guys. Good to
talk to you now. We're eleven days here from the
NFL Draft. It's it's coming, guys, it's coming, and we're
looking forward to seeing what's gonna happen at number three.
That's what's that thing is gonna happen, c J. That's
the question. You know. Um, I could go one for fifteen.

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I could. I could tell you the positions that they're
looking at. I could probably get seven of them right
right now. But three is where it starts for me.
And it's, um, we know it's going to be a quarterback.
Whether it's the mac Jones stuff is fascinating. I mean,
so many people that I talked to respect the quarterback.
They like them, but they think he's a late first round,
early second round pick just based on skill set and

(01:01:28):
based on what the tape looks like. So you know,
you ask yourself this question, how much better is he
really than Jimmy Garoppolo other than the health. I mean
he from a from a tape standpoint, he's not so
that That's what would surprise me if he's really in
play there, Um, justin fields makes much more sense as
of right now to be that guy. Let's I guess
that's where where my question is. Did the forty Niners

(01:01:51):
do that deal not knowing who they were going to pick? No,
they know exactly what they're doing. I'm just yeah, I'm
just what I'm saying is no, And I'm not saying
you're saying it, but right the put No, No, no
team makes a trade up like that without knowing who
they're taking. They they know exactly what they're taking. It's
just a matter of which couarter we It hasn't gotten
out yet. Um, you know, typically three or four days

(01:02:11):
before the draft, it will come out. Someone will have it.
Someone who who's it could be anybody with some reporter
could get it. I typically will find out four to
five days before the draft. But what the top ten
probably will be. Uh, it just has not gotten out yet,
which quite frankly is a surprise to me that it
has not gotten out yet. Then let me just follow
up with that. Then why do we have Do we

(01:02:32):
just have Chris Simms to blame for bringing mac Jones
into this? Or why is it the change now this
week to Justin Fields? I mean even Vegas is saying
that it's Justin Fields. Why do we see a turn
like that if they've known who they've wanted all along. No,
it just says again, Dan has not gotten out. Um,
I don't you know why Vegas has Justin Fields. Well,
Justin Fields is a better prospect than mac Jones. It

(01:02:52):
doesn't mean he's gonna be a better quarterback. There's a
lot that goes into playing the quarterback position. Accuracy, timing,
and um. In today's NFL, you gotta be able to move.
He can't be stationary. That that's really the big knock
on mac Jones is he's actually got two knocks. Doesn't
drive the ball down the field very well, and he
doesn't move very well but very accurately. Terrible did he

(01:03:12):
did run and a little that's not awful, No, no,
But I'm just talking from a tape study tj that
this is what quarterback coaches tell me. In fact, I
let me give you a little example. So I talked
to a team that interviewed mac Jones after his pro day.
They said, first of all, his pro day was exactly
like you would see on tape. Doesn't drive the football
very accurate. He knocked it out in their meeting. One

(01:03:35):
coach said it was the best quarterback being they've ever had.
This staff, they they've never interviewed. So in this this cerebral,
this party, he got everything they asked him to do
and and it went really well. But it does not
change the fact that he doesn't have a strong enough farm.
And you know, as one one one coach told me,
show me the diference between he and Andy Dalton. No
disrespect to Andy Dalton. Okay, no disrespect to Andy Dalton,

(01:03:57):
but he was a second round pick. Let's not forget
and I'm capital joining us here on Fox Sports Sunday,
He's t J aish Manzada, I'm Dan Buyer. Moving away
from three. Let's go to number four where Atlanta is there.
You know we've talked to you about it. Front office
and that coach were splits at least down to who
where they want to go. Then we heard a report

(01:04:20):
a week or two ago that they could be shopping
the pick where where. By the way, yeah, they they
definitely made it available. Now. Just just so people understand,
every single NFL team talks to every team at this
time of year. There they're making winner called trade scenario calls.
So for instance, if let's say your team picking the

(01:04:41):
teams and and um, you start seeing your board getting decimated,
you've already had these calls where you go listen, um,
if we think our guys gonna go towards your spot,
we want to trade up, So let's work this trade
competition out. That why that that way, guys, once you
get to draft day, there's no guessing. Um, there's no craziness.
I mean, other than the Kevin Williams situation with the

(01:05:03):
Vikings many years ago where they actually missed their time allotted.
I was actually at the draft of Mad Square Garden.
I've never seen anything like it where and they still
got their pick though, that's the crazy thing. We're still
going to get them, but they didn't pick them on there.
A lot of time, teams absolutely know what they're going
to do, and they have the trade scenarios worked out
if they needed if the guy. In fact, sometimes when

(01:05:26):
there are two or three guys that follow a team,
they'll trade out. They go, hey, listen, um, we still
think we get our guy. We want to get out
of the spot and this has already been worked out.
Speaking of the draft, and I said this at last
segment talking about the Raiders, when when does the lack
of success Mike Mayock and John Gruden hadn't the draft

(01:05:47):
come to the forefront and people start to discuss this,
they've been awful with the first round picks. You give
up Khalil Mack, you give up a Marii Cooper, What
do they have to show for that, I say, not
much win. Are people going to start to realize, like
they've been drafting pretty high in the first round and
it hasn't been successful. And DJ, it's fair because they

(01:06:09):
Mike doesn't have may Oct doesn't not a personal control
John does. Um. Look, you're right. So you're saying that
basically may I regrets taking a job. Basically I didn't
say that. I know Mike. He's a good man. He
look he's doing all that he can. This will be
his third draft. The problem that you have is John.
John is sort of impetuous sometimes he sometimes he's just

(01:06:32):
gonna do what he's gonna do. And um, when when
you work for John, as I've talked to people work
with him, Um, he says some things, sometimes he does
another thing. Um, And they've also missed your right. Look
you look at Cleveland Farrell. Right, here's the guy that
so many teams told me should have been taken Uh
in the twenties, he's taken fourth overall that the Raider.
The Raiders admitted that they try to trade out. Well,

(01:06:54):
that doesn't mean you still have to take him. Um
that that now, now we've only played two years. I
learned my lesson with some players. So times it takes
a while to get started. Brandon Graham of the Eagles
was this is the year when Graham was drafted out
of Michigan, Eagles traded up um. The Eagles passed on
Earl Thomas, they passed on Jason Pierre Paul Well after
his two first two years, then Brandon Graham started blossom.

(01:07:15):
So you can't say a guy is gonna be a
bust after two years. But Cleyland Farrell has done next
to nothing. And you're right, they have not drafted well.
There's there's no question you knowed too. Yep, that's that's
always another another point. But Colton Miller left tackle has
been a great pick. They just extended contract out of
twenty eighteen. But if you look at John Strafts that

(01:07:36):
he's responsible for nineteen twenty, overall they've not gotten a
lot and defensively they're they've been awful. That's that's called
like it is. They've not drafted well at all on
that side of football. Raiders pick seventeenth in the first round,
coming up in less than two weeks. He see Josh Manzada,
I'm Dan Buyer joining on the show as we always
are by Adam Caplan our Fox Sports Radio NFL Insider.

(01:07:56):
Get him on Twitter at Caplan NFL. Alright, so are
the Eagles still looking at quarterback possibly moving up from
twelve after that deal? What's happening with with Phillies? Philly? No,
they're gonna take a corner. They'll, they'll they're um. See,
here's the problem that Philly has. If you look at
team needs right, Carolina needs a corner, They need a

(01:08:17):
left tackle in a corner. Those are their top two needs.
I've run this by so many personal people I respect
lines here's the problem the Philly has. Lions need a corner,
Panthers need a corner. Dallas or our trival needs a corner.
The two top guys are are our players who are
their dad's playing in the NFL? J C Horn of course,
who's Terriffic who? Some teams I know for fact have

(01:08:37):
him rated higher than Patrick's retained the second. Those two
guys will not make it past twelve. In fact, I
don't think they're going to make it to twelve. So
Philly could actually trade up if they fill it the need,
because that's what they need. They need a corner other
than Darius Slay who's thirty. They don't have a starting
outside corner, so they have to do something. Dallas needs
a starting outside corner. Caroline has probably got the worst
group of corners of the National Football League. Detroit's pretty

(01:08:59):
bad out there. Um, their first round pick did not
work out well last year. But look it's only one year.
So that that's a team that I think could move
up if if they feel like they need to do it,
they'll do it. The Chargers behind them absolutely need one.
The Panthers need one. Excuse me, the Patriots, you need one.
And here's another thing, the Cardinals, which right t J.
The Cardinals are off all corner. So yeah, that that

(01:09:21):
that the In fact, you know, I've been asked a lot,
what's one position? Teams will trade off for corners because
there's a drop off to Newsom the corner to Northwestern.
He's a distant third. And remember Caleb Farley, who a
lot of people thought might be the top rated corner.
He's going to drop because of multiple back surgery. He
is he's unbelievad not young. That back is gonna heal.

(01:09:42):
That dude is big fat. Stop making these excuses with
these injuries. Medical t J. You know that team's great
heart of the medical that's if he can give you
six good years, it's not worth it. You know, it's
interesting you make mention. I remember asking Bill Pauline, who
I work with at esp in, about that, and he
said the one medical grade he wished he would never

(01:10:03):
overrule his medical staff. But it goes to what you
what you just talked about. He said he if he
would if you, if he could go back, he probably
would have done it with um Rob Gronkowski because remember
Gronk didn't play his final year back problems, right, and
then look he we know he's missed a ton of
time in his career, but yet somehow he made it
and he's still playing. You have you make a fair

(01:10:24):
point it they're protecting six seven years down in line,
give me three or four and I'm okay with that pick.
You only take three or four. I'll take three or
four if you. If you if your body breaks down
and you give me four great years, I'll take good years.
That get six. That means I'm giving you a second contract. Yeah,

(01:10:45):
I want that's correct, right, I want to do six years. Man.
If if I'm gonna take a guy. He's got a
very bad medical grade. I need six years. I mean,
you would think a guy in his early twenties back problem.
You get the right training an cl two though. Yeah,
he's got an a c um from that's all. That
kid is, big, fast, explosive. I'm taking a chance. Do

(01:11:07):
you know he only played the corner for two years? Yes, yes,
he was a quarterback quarterback. Yes, my research. I'm not
a draft guru. But we'll revisit this in seven and
find out. How about that, Adam. We appreciate the time.
You know, we got another, you know, week and a
half to go talking about it next week. Yeah, it

(01:11:28):
should be a lot of fun. Appreciate Adam. We appreciate
your time, brother, Thank you. He's he's the best, absolutely
the best. Fox Sports Radioto fills at Adam Kaplan. Get
him on Twitter at Kaplan NFL. All right, t J,
you're about to be in the hot seat. Yes, easy
as one, two, three, four comes up next on Fox
Sports Sunday. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk

(01:11:51):
lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at
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is t J. Houshman's out. I'm Dan Buyer. It is
Fox Sports Sunday. Ralph's not gonna go anywhere, and we're
gonna bring in Gavin Kinson, our executive producer, and Iowa
Sam our technical producer, because they will serve as lifelines

(01:12:13):
for t J. Hushman Zana in a game that we
like to call easy as one to three four, we
strike up the band for this one. T J. This
is the premise. I give you a topic. I don't
want all of the right answers, that just want some
of them. The goal is to give a score of ten,
and if you don't know the answers or you need help,
you've got your three lifelines there to help you. Is

(01:12:34):
that simple enough? Sounds simple to me? Okay, t J?
Four questions as we pose to you. So four questions,
what are they? Te a half points each question? I
get right, Well, this is how it will play out.
I'm gonna ask you to name one of two, so
one point is available here. Name one of two Major
League Baseball teams, the San Diego Padres have played in

(01:12:58):
the World Series. Okay, in the Padres history, they've been
to the World Series a couple of times named one
of the two teams they faced in those World series.
You can use a lifeline. You can use any of
the guys that that you need. You can use Gavin,
you can use Iowa, Sam, you can use Ralph, or
if you even know the answer, feel free to give

(01:13:19):
it to me. But just one of the two teams
that the San Diego Padres faced in their World Series appearances. Man,
am I gonna have to use a lifeline? And I
think I'm gonna have to use one, But I believe
I should know where to go with this. I hope
I do, and I'll tell I'll tell you this. T J.
George always thinks that the most difficult questions are at

(01:13:41):
the end, not necessarily the case. Sometimes the most difficult
ones the first one. So so it's okay to use
a lifeline early. I can't take a chance, but I'm
gonna go I have an idea. But I know my
man Gavin knows he's a Charger fan San Diego when
they were, but he's still a Charger France. So I'm

(01:14:01):
gonna go with uh, I'm gonna go with my guy Gabs.
But I actually have an idea. Well, who do you
think you can? You can you can work shop it
with Gavin if you'd like, we can we can do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
go ahead. Not just remember I remember being in Juco
and I think it was the Padres when they played

(01:14:24):
the Yankees. It was like the late nineties. I feel
good about myself, good about myself. That your final answer, then,
t J. That's my final answer. Yeah, show me the Yankees.
There it is. Yeah, the Yankees in nine. The other
nineteen eighty four are they played the Detroit Tiger. Never

(01:14:47):
got that little back. I had both of those that stand.
Can verify the years and the opponents, though never all right?
One for one, the goal is and eight is a
good score. I would say, if you get eight, that's
pretty good, all right. T J named two of three
Oregon State Beavers who were first round picks in the

(01:15:10):
modern era of the NFL Super Bowl era. If you will,
you're alma mater of Oregon State has had three players
drafted in the first round. Give me two of the three.
This is easy. This is easy for me. I'm gonna
just give you one right now, Steven Jackson. Okay, that's
one and the other one and I believe Man was

(01:15:35):
her first round pick. I believe he was. He was
my teammate. Oh, I'm gonna go with Nick Barnett. Okay,
those are your final answers. Was Nick Barnett? A first
round pick? Was Nick Barnett? A first round pick? Was
Nick Barnett the first one? Yes, I'm going with Nick
Barnette be in a first round pick? Okay, I hope
Siri didn't help you. Let's see show me my teammate,

(01:15:58):
show me Stephen j Accent. Yes. In two thousand four,
he was they four overall pick of the events St.
Louis Ramie. I know that I thought the papers drafted
Nick Barnett in the first And show me Nick Barnett. Yeah,
he was a first round pick, twenty ninth overall. I'm
on it. Man the Oregon State, A hundred and eighty

(01:16:20):
pound receiver. How he got the two forty and was
still ripped up? I have no idea. T J. Hushmansa
is three for three so far at easy as one
to three. Four Brandon Cooks would have been an acceptable
I didn't even think of brand Yes as well? Will
t J continue on his road to perfection? Find out
next He's t J. Hushman's out. I'm d I do.

(01:16:43):
All I do is win like anybody that know me? Man,
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(01:17:06):
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J on Up on Games Saturday's at one o'clock Eastern
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that and so much more, and and right now he
is winning an easiest one to three four perfect score

(01:17:27):
three through two questions. You've got two more to go,
t J. Are you ready to try to continue your
quest for perfection? I hope so. Alright, ready, baby, alright, ready,
let's do it. Strike up the band. T J is
three for three so far. He's got three points so far.
Now I want to know if he can name three
of the four Cincinnati Bengals first overall draft picks. So

(01:17:54):
four times in their history the Bengals have had their
overall John Carter, Joe Burr, Roll, Carson Palmer. All right,
those your final answers, Yes, sir, show me Joe Burrow,
all right, show me Carson Palmer, show me k Johnna Carter.

(01:18:14):
There it is the other one, Big Daddy, Dan Wilkins Wilson,
Ohio State DT. I just went with the offensive, guys,
I just want uh that was the quarterbacks were easy.
It was the thing with John of Carters people have
to remember was it was actually the Panther's first round pick.

(01:18:34):
There were an expansion team that year, and then Cincinnati
made the deal and ended up drafting to JOHNA. Carter.
So yes, t J was right on that he didn't
even need a lifeline. But will he for the final
question and a perfect game? We talked a lot about
the NBA playoffs and how things are gonna go, whether
it be the Nets or Lakers or Clippers, and can
the Jazz do it? What I want to know is

(01:18:58):
named four of the top defensive teams in the NBA
right now entering today, determined by points allowed per game.
So give me four out of the five top defensive teams.
When it comes to points allowed per NBA game. I'm
gonna be so mad because I was just watching the

(01:19:20):
game today and godly by points allowed, points allowed. You've
got lifelines. You've got Sam, you got Ralph, you can
use Gavin again. I can't go with the Knicks because
I know Tom Thibodell's deepen. The Jazz are always they
have a good record, so they gotta be up there.
Should I go with the Jazz? The Lakers normally are good.

(01:19:41):
They always talk about them being good. Wait, who who's
my lifeline? I'm gonna have you got? You got Ralph,
you got Iowa, Sam, you got Gavin. If you want
to talk it through, you got all of them if
they want to chime in. Okay, guys, let's let's let's
figure this out out, because you know I gotta finish.
I gotta finish perfect. What's I think, Gavin? Any thoughts, Savina?

(01:20:05):
Would I would pick the Knicks. I wouldn't pick the Clippers.
I think they're like tenth or something like that. Um
is Ralph's microphone up? I can't tell? Okay, So no
no thoughts on the crew on this. We're looking at
I just want to be clear. The points per game. Yeah,

(01:20:25):
points allowed per games allowed, per game. I'm gonna go
with I would suggest I'm going with the Knicks for
sure because I was watching TV today and they said
Tom Thibodeau has the best defense. When they were playing
the Pelicans, they said they have their best defense in
uh National bats. So we're for sure going with the Knicks.
That's one of them. Okay, who else? Is always three more?

(01:20:48):
You know? Okay, I'm going with Eric Bolster to Miami
Heat are always good on defense. They emphasize defense. First.
The Lakers should be up there, but when the Brian
and a D being out, especially a D, I'm not
so certain. Goodness, you said to four yep, four out
of the five. Four to the top five. We're gonna

(01:21:10):
need a final answer. There's nothing tougher than season NBA question. Yes,
this one. Miami Heat. Are the Sixers good? I mean
the Sixers are good. Think it's all the teams with

(01:21:31):
good records. They've gotta be good on defense. Okay, so
give me an answer. So you got Okay, So I'm
gonna go to Lakers, the Knicks, the Heat. Uh, We're
going Jazz or Phoenix Suns. Which one Jazz Phoenix Suns. Okay,
I'm going Phoenix because I think Aton is a little
more mobile. Let's go. Let's go to show me the next,

(01:21:53):
show me the heat, show me the Lakers. Yeah, perfect,
show me the sons as want have worked as well.
Clippers were six, Sixers were seven. So some of the
names that you threw out there a perfect score, Ralph

(01:22:15):
and Cap and I appreciate the team work, baby, appreciate
the team work, the dream work that we were debating
Jazz sons and they both work. T J is perfect. Hey,
the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox sports

(01:22:36):
Radio dot com and within the I Heart Radio app
search f s R to listen live. Okay, t J,
be honest. I mean I know there's a festible route
of Notre Dame. There's double digit touchdown catch season, there's
leading the league and receptions. There's playing in the playoffs.
Where does perfect score of ten on easiest one to

(01:22:58):
three four rank in your are accomplishments throughout life? Oh,
it's always up there. But anybody, man, no lie, anybody
that knows me. I'm trying to win everything. I do everything.
Me and my son we play basketball. I'm killing them.
I'm not letting him win anything, and so I expected
that of myself. I didn't know any of the questions

(01:23:21):
just for the view, I didn't know any of them.
But I am a fan of sports. That's all I watch.
I don't watch anything else, not even cooking shows or
like Food Network, nothing like that. It's funny you bring
that up. My wife and my daughter, they watched those
shows so late at night when all the sports have
gone off and there's nothing else on. I will watch

(01:23:43):
those shows with him. But during the day, every TV
in our house is on a sports, sports, game, sports
channel something. That's all I watched um constantly, and that's
been my that's my life. I love sports. That's just
I love it. I don't have to do research because
I watch it all the time. That's you know. It
actually makes me feel a little bit better. And maybe

(01:24:06):
my wife and and your wife can get together and
comisserate because it's this like I sometimes just feel bad,
like when there's and and the NBA. Now it is
like a double header every night, you know, like TNT
has two games on Tuesday and then on Thursday and ESPN.
I'll have two NBA games on Wednesday and Friday, and like,
so there's so it's not only is just one game done,

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there's another game that's got to come on. So, uh,
they can they can probably commiserate together. So so I
feel you with that. The NFL Draft comes up in
less than two weeks, first round taking place, uh a
week from Thursday, if you want to make it sound
really really soon. We assume Trevor Lawrence is going number
one and Zach Wilson is very likely going number two

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to the New York Jets. Then the draft starts at three.
I want to figure out where we are three, four
and five. And we kind of touched on this a
little bit earlier. If you missed it, don't worry, We're
gonna hit on some of it. But you can always
go to Fox Sports Radio dot com, click on podcasts
and click on the show and hear what we had
to say. But you and I actually both like Justin
Fields at number two or when it comes to the

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quarterback rankings, I should say of the at least at
going number three to the forty niners, I am high
on Fields. I actually thought there was an opportunity for Fields.
Prior to this past season of him going number one,
I thought, man, if he really built off of what
he did in his first year at Ohio State in
the second year and the COVID type of season didn't help,

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had a tough game against Northwestern in the Big Tent
title game, he didn't have a top wide receiver there,
did throw three interceptions in the game against Indiana. But
what I'm doing is nitpicking because that's what a lot
of people do with Justin Fields. So I'm right there
with you when it comes to uh, the Justin Fields
being the second best quarterback in this draft class. My

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question though, what do you do if you're the forty
Niners at three? What do you do if you're Atlanta
at four? And then what do you do if you're
your Cincinnati Bengals sitting there at five? If you had
an opportunity to to make those three picks for those
three teams, where do you go? Wow? First of all,

(01:26:12):
let's let's let's go uh. If I'm the Niners, I'm
assuming Lawrence and Wilson are wanted two, I'm going Justin
Fields unless trade lance really really impresses me in this
pro day. It will give me something to think about.
But he's only a one year starter. That that's tough.
He's gonna have to sit a year or two. You

(01:26:33):
can do that with Jimmy g But I'm going justin
fields work gets interested. Is the fourth pick with the Falcons?
And do you pass on Kyle Pitts, who I've stated
is a tight end that really plays like a receiver.
He's basically Plexico Burr's playing tight end. Um, let's see

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how many people still my comparison. But do you take
kim if you're the Falcons? Because Matt Ryan has had
weapons his entire career with the Latin Falcons. He said,
Tony Gonzalez, he had, Roddy Why he had, Julio Um,
Calvin Ridley, He's had weapons, Michael Turner, I can go
on and on and on. He's had weapons, and he

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puts up stats. But outside of that year of going
to the Super Bowl with Kyle Shannon Han, it's just
been stats and so getting him the weapons. He's had
weapons before, and so as enticing as it would be
to draft Kyle Pitts, I don't know if the Falcons
should go that direction. I would go uh corner offensive line.

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If I'm the Falcons or my first choice would be
to trade the pick and see if I can get
draft capital because I'm not one player away obviously picking Forth.
If I'm the Bengals, I know they signed I believe
his last name is reef Riley reef or Riley, how
you pronounced? And they have uh Jonah Williams. So those
are the tackles. But I can't I can't draft or

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I don't want to draft a receiver in Jamar Chase
with that pick, I have to draft a lineman. You're
in a division where you have Clowney, Myles Garrett, T. J.
Watt and whomever else they have on opposite of him.
The pitchburg sion as they rushed a passer. The Ravens
are always tough on defense. You have to protect. Joe

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Burrow is enticing it, as is the draft Jamaar Chase.
I'm drafting an offensive lineman. Um, they're unsunk heroes of
every football team, and I do know that. But it's
gonna be very enticing, and it's gonna be hard to
pass up on Jamar, but you have to. You can
find a receiver in a second round. I I like.
I I agree with Justin Fields at three. We are

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on the same page at that. At four, I think
the Falcons, if they're going to keep the pick, should
draft Ray Lance. I I think it is time. I
don't know, the last thing that they need is another weapon.
Like like I've never watched the Falcons in the last

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three years and said, Chiefs, Matt Ryan doesn't have anything
around him, Like I've never said that ever ever at all.
I've actually said, my goodness, you don't have Calvin Ridley
and Julio Jones be there for you. And I know
Austin Hooper left via free agency last year, but he
was a target for them. What do they do? They're
bringing Hayden Hurst. He's another guy there there. Their problem

(01:29:28):
is not explosive guys around Matt Ryan, and Matt Ryan
is is okay? Now, I wouldn't say Matt Ryan's great now.
And when I look at that franchise, new head coach,
new general manager, you're trying to your you still have
the stench of to three over that franchise. T J
like we're still talking about it. We're gonna be in

(01:29:49):
a season that's gonna be five years removed from that
Super Bowl season and where we still talk five years
removed and they're picking in the top five. Yeah, like
like this is like it's time to it's time to
rese It's not like, well if we if you know,
we could get Kyle Pitts here and be really good
for the offense and Matt Ryan. The opportunity to take
Trey Lance at for to me is just it's too

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good to pass up. It's time to turn it over.
And you could have the situation where then Trey Lance
does sit a year. If he wants to be behind him,
he might have to sit a couple of years like
I don't. And see, this is the problem with with
these rookies is there's really the guys aren't going O
T as. You're gonna get limited reps and so that's
where the young guys improve are are the O T

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A s. And so if it continues the way it is,
how does a guy like Trey Lance improve from getting
live reps in practice? Because in training camp you'll get
some reps, but you're not getting the amount of reps
you need to improve as a player. It's it's gonna
be difficult. I don't think that he can sit longer,

(01:30:53):
like if you were to sit a year, I think
that's all you can do because at some point, with
how we view quarterbacks now at days, and it's not
even the monetary investment, it's just getting the franchise. You
don't want to sit there and be saying, Okay, we'll
wait until this point, wait until that point. You can't
be in a holding pattern. When we see teams, you know,
have the turnover turnaround so quickly, and I just I

(01:31:15):
look at Atlanta and I look at I look at
that division. The Saints are in a you know, we
talked about divisions earlier. You talk about how you love
the a f C North and how the NFC West
is gonna be so good. When you look at the
makeup of the NFC South, Tom Brady, listen, New Sweat,
he's not going to play forever. There'll be a contender
next season, and who knows what happens after that. But

(01:31:36):
then you look at the Saints trying to move forward
from Drew Brees to figure out their path that's still
up in the air. The Panthers are now taking a
chance on Sam Donald. It's not like the NFC South
is now this juggernaut that it kind of has been
the last couple of years with the success of the
Saints or the Falcons or or now the Buccaneers, and
having those teams in your way, like it could be

(01:31:57):
there for Atlanta and for them to hold off because
they think Ryan may have a couple of good years
left in him or one or two just doesn't make
any sense to me like that, that that's the problem.
And I understand the limited amount of action that Trey
Lance had competition or not, Like I take kind of
take like him and Mac Jones in the same position.
They know the competition. It's the amount of games that

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he started up until he played one game this past season.
Up until this game this past season, he hadn't thrown
a ball more than twenty five times in a one
game in any game. He also didn't throw an interception
at all in a season. Now that that that to me,
I look at that and say, huh, that's a great thing,
But it also can be a bad thing because does

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he not want to take chances? Is he a little
too conservative with the ball? Sometimes you just have to
throw the ball up and let your receivers make a
play when they look to be covered. Um, So I
look at it from that perspective. But if say the
Falcons were to draft Trade Lance, they're for sure gonna
sit in a year. That's a guarantee over the course

(01:33:09):
of that year. And it's always crazy because I never
understood this quarterbacks there are babies. They really are babies
because oh, they draft a quarterback. Oh, I'm not gonna
be the future of the team anymore. I can't play
this year. My mental competitive I'm just not I can't
do it anymore. But you can draft any other position
and the guy's expected to go compete. You draft a quarterback,

(01:33:32):
they cry like babies. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
I think the Legion of Boom would like to know
as well, because they because that's kind of what what
happened in Seattle that ended up kind of fracturing. That is,
you have compete, compete, compete, except that quarterback where Russell
Wilson won the job and now he's our guy. But no,
you're you're you're exactly right with with that. The thing

(01:33:53):
about the thing about Trade Lance, and I just I
want to make sure that what I compare him to
with Mac Jones, is that just think that they were
they were so much better than everybody at North Dakota State,
and that program is just through the roof awesome. And
when you have got when you are so good, sometimes
you just you're you're you're better you meant you rattled

(01:34:14):
off the wide receivers that Mac Jones and Alabama you know,
has had over the last couple of years. Sometimes it's
easier to just when when you're picking a part of defense,
because there's no way that a college secondary can keep
up with those guys. Your numbers are going to be good.
But it also does tell me that, you know, Trai
Lance does take care of the football, and I know
that there's a limited number, but I am not concerned

(01:34:34):
at all about the competition and and and and you
know his numbers. What is he? Six to six three?
There's a small guy, dude, I saw him. Uh was
it no Thursday? Thursday dude? He's huge legit, six four
six five even bigger. Oh yeah, he's a big boy. Yeah.

(01:34:55):
I was shocked. Yeah, I was actually shocked at the
size on him. Like I was like, oh this dude,
sure and he had good size on him. It's it's
time for the Falcons. To turn the page. He's even
bigger than from from what we have from TJ's eyes.
Matt Ryan's contract you can actually get out of after

(01:35:17):
if you If you want to just give him that
one year, that franchise needs to start turning the page.
Getting a getting a cow pits may seem nice getting
you know, not like they're in for the Jamar chase,
not that he would go to Atlanta, but to get
another weapon. That's all fine and dandy, but you have
to kind of start to turn that page. And Matt

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Ryan turns thirty six in May, and I know that's
not the end all be all, but really, how many
great seasons do you still have left? And has there
been anything in the last three seasons that would make
you believe that he is going to turn things around?
And I don't think that there is, at least in
the last two of the he hasn't taken the Falcons
to that point. They need to take Trey Lance at

(01:36:01):
number four. That's I just I think that that's where
Atlanta needs to go. They shouldn't trade the pick, they
should keep it and draft their quarterback in the future.
Now is it the quarterback position has become we all
have to have a quarterback talking in NFL teams, Will
that be reaching? Will that be overdrafting? Are these quarterbacks

(01:36:22):
really worthy of being picked where they're going to be picked,
or is it we need a quarterback, so we're going
to reach. And so they have to be careful that
if they have him evaluated as such, you got a drafting.
But if you don't have him evaluated as such, are

(01:36:43):
we now reaching for a player because we haven't really
rated as a seventeenth best player, but we're gonna take
them at the fourth pick. You have to be very
careful with that because the Falcons, I mean, I don't
know how good the Falcons are. Their defense was so bad.
If their defense was better what they have been in

(01:37:04):
more games? Yeah, maybe offensively they put up a lot
of yards, but it's fluff yards. I've played on a
lot of I've had a couple of hundred yard games.
We're like in like sixty yards on the last two drives,
hunt of yard game. But they're giving me those yards.
And so they're giving Matt Ryan and the Falcons offense

(01:37:25):
those yards at the end of the game. And so
at the end of the season, how many of those
yards are really true yards where the game is in
the balance and you really have to do something. But
if they think Trey Lance is that guy, I agree
with you. But if not, you cannot reach for a
quarterback because if you're wrong, you're in the whole three

(01:37:45):
or four more years because now you have to get
another quarterback and you have to wait till he develops.
Is just a process that just keeps going and going
and going. In the bad teams, we see this, you
know we're we're gonna continue with that. He's t J
houshman Zada. I'm d and Buyer because I actually disagree
with that point, and I'll tell you why coming up next.
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(01:38:51):
on on this Sunday, NBA Action, Major League Baseball, so
much to get to, but we've continue to talk about
the NFL Draft and the conversation that t J and
I were having centered around what the a lot of
Falcons were gonna do or could do at number four
if Justin Fields ends up being the pick at at
number three, and and t J brought up a good

(01:39:13):
point that are we reaching on these are would teams
be reaching on guys if they're trying to get up
into the top half of the draft, that they're gonna
make a trade or if they're even staying put. I mean,
is is it really a draft class where five quarterbacks
are the top five prospects in the draft. No, that's
not the case. So guys, are quarterbacks are being moved

(01:39:34):
up if they're being taken early, maybe taking ahead of
better prospects of you know, better than these Kyle Pitts
is better than uh mac Jones or Jamar Chase is
a better prospect than mac Jones. But your point, t J.
You think that if you reach for a quarterback here,
and I just want you to to reset it and
I'll give you my thoughts on it, that not only

(01:39:56):
is it a bad move to reach, but now also
you've kind of doubled down because of where that can
put your franchise. Yeah, you get yes, you get set
You get set back probably seven to ten years because
he's gonna sit a year because he needs to be developed.
You're gonna let him play two to three years to

(01:40:19):
see if he's your guy. So that's three to four
years right there. You draft another guy if he's not
your guy, so possibly six to seven years of trying
to find that quarterback because you reach for a quarterback.
None of these picks are absolutely it's no guarantee. But

(01:40:42):
you can't reach at four because when you're drafting fourth
or just in the top five in general, that's a
difference maker. And when you have a chance to draft
a difference maker, you don't want to reach and hope
you're getting a difference maker. And so for me, if

(01:41:04):
he's if you have them rated highly, oh you send
a card in Trey Lance. But if not, you have
to be very careful with that because and quarterback position
is the only position that's overdrafted. They don't draft any position,
and so you have to be careful with that. You
said something earlier that I completely agree with, And if
I was in NFL GM, I was just draft offensive

(01:41:25):
and defensive lineman, like that would be my thing. Like,
that's that's where I want to be solid. I want
to be solid up for Daniel somebody. They're gonna hear
me talking on here and they're gonna they're gonna come
bring me in. Because that's how games are one in lost,
games are one in loss up front, they're one and
loss up You're gonna win and lose games because offensively

(01:41:48):
you're dominating them on both sides of the ball up front,
or you're getting dominated. This winner lost because you've been
dominated up front. That that that's just what it is.
I do think the Cardinals showed a bit, and it's
it's not a blueprint because they took a risk. And
I was really really hard on Arizona when they fired
Steve Wilkes and then they let you know, quit on

(01:42:10):
Josh Rosen after a year, it moved on, but it
ended up just being a throwaway year. And now the
franchise seems to have really have been reset and we
saw how you know, inmind you Josh Rosen was tenth overall.
Dwayne Haskins was a mid first round pick. But we've
seen Washington already move on for me him. That's the
one thing that I would say is that we are

(01:42:32):
seeing teams move on from quarterback sooner rather than later nowadays.
And I do think that there are quarterbacks available. So
if you do make that big, if you do end
up reaching, maybe you can move on quicker than you would,
you know, ten or fifteen years ago, especially with the
amount of money that is locked up in a guy.
I do think that if a guy doesn't have it,
you can kind of cut your losses at some point

(01:42:54):
and move on. I mean, and heck, the Jets have
kind of done it with Sam Donald. I mean, they've
already found a better option after three years and said
all right, we're moving on. I don't think it will
handcuff a team as as much in trying to find
the guy, but that process to turn around the team
may just take a little bit longer. Financially, It's nowhere
like it was when I first came into the league.
It just puts you in a bind from the salary

(01:43:15):
cap perspective, but from a team perspective. Moving forward, as
a football team, they drafted Sam, They're gonna draft Zack Wilson.
When Zach bout, you would say, at the earliest, Zach
Wilson should be able to do work second, third year.

(01:43:37):
Second at the earliest, hopefully by his third year. That's
five years right there. And so you just have to
be careful and if you if you put players around him,
you protect them, you're able to run the ball. Wow, miraculously,
he's a better quarterback. It's so instead of looking that, oh,

(01:44:00):
the quarterback can't get it done, Let's look at the
guys in front that offensive line and the guy he's
gonna hand it to. If they're effective, my receivers are
gonna get single high coverage. That means one safety in
the middle of the field, easy reads for the quarterback.
It just makes the game so much easier, so much easier.

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Seth is in Virginia joining us on Fox Sports Sunday.
What's happened in seth. Hey, how's it going, guys? I
agree with t J, and I mean so much. I
think that the Falcons should trade back with the Patriots
at fifteen, right, they'll get the patriots fifteenth pick. I
think they also could ask for the second round pick
this year, second round pick. You can't give all that up.

(01:44:45):
You're gonna drop eleven spots just for a second round pick. Listen, listen,
you can ask you can ask for more. You can
ask for more. Right, So I'm just thinking just quickly,
like quickly, right, So first round pick, you get the fifteenth,
and then you get right and then you can you
can take a cornerback where you can take an offensive
lote more defensive lineman at fifteen, and then you can

(01:45:06):
need a trade back up into the first round with
your thirty sixth overall pick and like a fifth or
the Patriots. But who should the Patriots target with that pick?
Who says the Patriots want? Who are they going to target?
They want a quarterback really bad? Like that's what builds
been like building going to all these quarterbacks. Right, so
you let him reach on trade lance or another quarterback, right,

(01:45:27):
and then you take what you need a fifteen and
then you can trade back up and take Killen Man
late in the first round. He's kissing your butt, t J.
That's what it is, is Kellen Mondelov No I'm getting
so no, no, no, no, no, seriously, because like, if
you're gonna have to wait on the quarterback for a year,
you might as well. Has played a lot of football

(01:45:49):
in SEC as a starter, played his best foot every
single every single year, every single year. And he's played
a lot of football. He started a lot of football games.
He's not lying with five first round picks. He's not
playing with an he's plea's not playing with any Here's
here's my here's my question. And I appreciate the call

(01:46:12):
and just looking at all of that, First of all,
you would need a first round pick next year? Uh
if you're the Falcons, Like, there's no way that you
are dropping eleven spots in a draft that has this
talent and not getting a first round pick. So New
England would have to that would that would be a
minimum they would have to ask for first round pick,

(01:46:33):
and that question of whether the Patriots would would want
to do that. But I do have I do have
a question here when was the last time a team
settled like wait, like went waited back in the draft
in the later first round to get their guy and
it worked out. Like I don't, I don't, I don't
remember like those times, and like I don't. Aaron Rodgers

(01:46:55):
dropped a lot in the draft. We know that story
and dropping the green A But you know when Johnny
Manziel kind of fell back that didn't end up working out.
Guys who are who are the late first round picks
are like, hey, let's trade back a week and get
this guy. I don't see like a huge success trail
following I'll give you Lamar Jacksonar I'll give I'll give

(01:47:18):
you that. I'll give you Lamar. But I would say
that they're more Rodgers Eric I. I did mention Aaron Rodgers.
But with with those guys, you know, like there's no
guarantee that Jordan's love, for example, is going to be
the guy in Green Bay. I know there's always the
talk of him pushing Aaron Rodgers out the door. I

(01:47:39):
don't think that that's a foregone conclusion mentioned a guy,
you know, like Johnny Manziel. You know, Cleveland tried to
do it a couple of times. So it's just I
don't I don't think that there's I I just think
it's difficult. I think it's difficult. Different to put all
your eggs in that basket. When when you spoke of
Aaron Rodgers, he sat for two years behind a great quarterback.

(01:48:00):
But in the process of sitting for those two years,
he received a ton of reps in O T A
S tons. He got those reps. He got those reps.
You fast forward, George Love isn't getting those reps. He's
not getting those reps because COVID last year, no O
T A S this year. Guys seem to be of

(01:48:23):
they're not going. So that's two years in a row
of a ton of snaps he would have received to
help his development that he's not gonna receive. Aaron Rodgers
got those snaps. He he was fortunate enough to get
those snaps and didn't watch. George Love is watching, but
he's not receiving the reps that he needs to become

(01:48:43):
a better player. And so it's a different ball game.
And and that's why when you start talking, oh, this
guy needs to be developed, you gotta be careful because
you gotta understand those reps that guys once received an offseason.
They're not receiving him anymore. So when is he developing
during the season. Maybe, yeah, there's there during the season, right,

(01:49:08):
Guess what gets what? Repie gets? Scout team reps. So
you're running another team's plays. You're not even running your
own plays. The backup quarterback is gonna get in seven
on seven one or two plays um in team one
or two plays. So you get four reps a practice.
That is that's your offense. That's your offense. You could
get four reps max. And the team plays you're handing

(01:49:31):
the ball off. You're handing the ball off, and so
you get of a week of practice fifteen plays and
so that is tough, you know. You know, I went
I went to the Los Angeles Rounds practice before COVID Andy.
They were doing something that I had never seen before,
at least never seen before no team I ever played on.

(01:49:52):
They did this, and I thought this was fantastic by
Sean McVeigh. I guess I might be giving a secret
away is they finished practice the starters win in all
the backups stayed out and continued practice. I was like, wait, wait, wait,
what is this like the starters went in, took showers,

(01:50:12):
did whatever they have to do. All the guys they
didn't get reps during the course of practice. They had
like an extra thirty minute practice that extra twentysothing plays
and I thought, wow, So if they're gonna do that
type of stuff, that that development happens. But I guarantee
everybody's not doing that. I'm sorry, Sean mcne if I
gave you a secret away, but that's how you can
develop guys. But is everybody doing that? That's gonna be

(01:50:35):
the opening scene of the John Woolford story when it
comes to theaters near you. He's t J. Heshman's out.
I'm Dan Buyer. This is Fox Sports Sunday. We'll talk
some more NFL drafting quarterbacks. Plus an NBA superstar may
want out of his current situation. We'll talk about that
after Ralph Irvan gives us the latest of what's happening. Well,

(01:50:56):
we've got action in the NBA. Three games on the
floor right now, including one in Charlotte where the Hornets
have a forty three one lead over Portland's sixteen point
two seconds to play in the first quarter. Terry Rose,
you're already seventeen points in this contest. Oklahoma City is
visiting the Toronto Raptors. Of course, that's in Tampa. At
the end of the first quarter of the Thunder leading

(01:51:17):
thirty one, already twenty one points for lu Dort in
this contest, and Houston taking on Orlando and the Magic
with lead twenty four seconds to play in the third quarter.
The finish in San Diego a little while the Padres
score three run is in the eighth they beat the
Dodgers five to series goes to l A but to one.

(01:51:39):
There's a there's a rivalry brewin there in the Major's
right now. Well, it's just gone finally, it appears. Houston
falls at Seattle, the Mariners a seven to win over
the Houston Astros. The White Sox playing at the Red Sox,
and it's just gone final. They're Chicago of five one
win over Boston. Maybe the fun one though. We have

(01:52:03):
baseball in Chicago on a Sunday evening, Atlanta at the Cubs.
Freddie Freeman, Travis darnol Hey, Ray Adrianza, and Guermo Heredia
all with home runs in the first inning and the
Braves have a six one lead over the Cubs in
Chicago still batting in the bottom of the first The
wind might be blowing out at Wrigley tonight. As we

(01:52:24):
sent it back now to Dan Buyer and t J.
Housh Manzada, appreciate it. Ralph, it is Fox Sports Sunday.
I want to put a ball on this quarterback talk.
We've got Joe and North Dakota, the great state of
North Dakota. Joe, welcome to Fox Sports Sunday. Hey, how
are you doing good? I just wanted to touch up
on the Falcons pick. I agree that with the uh

(01:52:50):
that if they have, like say, Kyle Pitts or somebody
uh valued way higher than any quarterback that's available after
the first couple of picks, they I really believe that
they should go with that pick because they do have
a lot of holes on their team. But uh, touching
up on trade Lance, I don't I don't buy this
whole competition thing. UH. If that were the case, then

(01:53:14):
there's so many guys from you know, Alabama, Florida. You know,
they played the top level competition and then and they
didn't pan out in the NFL. So I really don't
I don't get that whole idea ideology behind that. But
uh uh having watched trade Lance, Uh, the guy, I
really think he's legit. You know, I might sound like

(01:53:36):
a homer, I guess from being from North Dakota, but um,
I do believe that he's the real deal. No, I
I don't, And and Joey appreciate the call. It's not
a homer. You see the guy. You like what you see,
and you've seen enough good players there. There's I don't
know how you could complain about the competition at the
you know, FCS level. I mean, like, okay, not every

(01:54:00):
team is is Alabama, Like, we get that, But I
don't think that's any problem like that. FBS or FCS
schools have been putting talent in the NFL forever. So
like that's That's actually the least of my worries with
Trey Lance to what you bring up. It's more of
his experience in the actual snaps that he would take

(01:54:20):
would be more of a concern to me than the
actual competition that he faced. Oh yeah, the competition of it.
He'll he'll adjusted that great athletes, is what you said.
It doesn't matter the level of play. That matters to
a certain degree, But his football, I Q his ability

(01:54:40):
to adjust that would that will happen quickly. It's just
a matter of are you gonna get those live reps?
Is that clock in your head gonna tell you, okay,
I gotta get rid of this ball to anticipation that
I that quarterbacks have to throw it in the league
are completely different than what you're doing in college. Um,
understanding coverage, fronts. There's just so many things that go

(01:55:03):
into it. And if you're not having these O T
A s and these practices, where do they come from?
Virtually you'll watch film and imagine yourself with the quarterback
and dropping back. Okay, I'm gonna go here. But when
there's no rush, there's nobodies around you, it's just different.
And so that would be my only concern, not not

(01:55:25):
his talent and him as a player, it's where is
the development gonna come from? And I and I know
these guys have thought about this, the coaches and these teams,
and they don't like what's going on, but it's the
new normal and they have to figure out how can
we as an organization get these players better and improve
them with what we have to work with now in

(01:55:47):
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That's other food networker Game Show Network after after the
game's end. But one of the games that was on
my TV today was the Knicks Elicans contest one by
New York in overtime, one twenty two to one twelve.
Despite a thirty four point nine rebound effort from one

(01:57:10):
Zion Williamson, who also had five assists in forty two minutes,
playing in front of fans at the Garden was quite
a thrill t J. And this is what Zion had
to say about playing in the Garden earlier today. I'm
glad you asked that. Actually, Uh, I mean New York

(01:57:31):
is the mecca basketball. Uh. I love I love playing
I love playing here. Uh when I played here in college,
and this is my first time playing here in the pros.
And I mean this, this atmosphere, you know, whether they're
cheering for you, whether they're blowing for you, It's amazing. Uh. Honestly,
I think outside of New Orleans obviously, Uh, I think

(01:57:54):
this might be my favorite place to play outside in
New Worce. I can't even lie to you. I can't
lie to you. Hey. Uh, if I am a Pelicans fan,
I am worried out of my mind. If I am
a Knicks fan, I am ecstatic to hear that sort
of response. This is the first chapter in the Zion

(01:58:15):
leaves New Orleans book that we're going to get throughout
his career until his contract expires. Healed t J. They
lost today in overtime in a game that they probably
should have won in regulation. For a team that is
battling for the tenth spot, they're sitting in the eleventh spot.

(01:58:35):
This is a must win game. All of their games
are must win. They are on the outside looking into
the playoffs, and Zion is just giddy talking about New
York after a heartbreaking overtime loss. I mean, what does
this say about the future of Zion in New Orleans
or maybe even the future of Zion in New York?

(01:58:56):
And I can't believe someone is just so excited about
playing in this And if I'm a Pelicans fan, I'm
not feeling too good about that. You just better win.
Put the team around him where he can win. That's
the sword of game of basketball is heading these guys.
They're moving in the direction of if I can't win
where I'm at, I want to get to a big

(01:59:18):
market team where my profile can be even higher than
it is now, I watched that game from beginning to end.
They got down big made a run really quick after
halftime in the third quarter. I believe Eric bledso he
carried him. In that third quarter, they're up by three
with five seconds left. They made a mental mistake, and

(01:59:40):
the mental mistake came from Alonzo Ball. They're up there,
they're up three points. Derek Rose gets the balls about
seven seconds left. He drives down the middle and just
give him the layup. Alonzo Ball helps. He kicks out
to Reggie Bullock in the corner, three ball corner pocket
tie game. We're going overtime. If Alonzo doesn't hope, you

(02:00:00):
just give Derrick Rows a layup. They're up one, what
about one second left in the game. You're winning that game.
That's a mental mistake. And if they want Zion to stay,
they're gonna have to eliminate those type of mental mistakes
because that game was there's to win, and when you
lose a game that way, do you really deserve to

(02:00:22):
win that they that literally was and I guarantee Staman
Gundian that huddle said, do not help anyone give him
the layup. Let's stay glued to the guys at the
three point line and Derek Rose goes to the whole
here comes Lonzo Ball. But if you're a Republican fan
and you're on that team and you're part of that

(02:00:42):
front office, that's concerning. That's concerning because very soon at
time is going to come up and you're gonna recall
those statements and say, he kind of told us, yeah,
I thought he was playing. I I think I think
you're spot on. I don't think we're blowing this out
of proportion. I also don't think that if you're a
Pelicans player or you're a Pelicans star, the Anthony Davis

(02:01:06):
situation has to weigh in on this like that. That's
the thing. It's not like Zion is the first star
in New Orleans that couldn't get it done, that went
somewhere else and and you know, had greener pastors. Anthony
Davis did immediately with the Lakers and ends up winning
a championship ring and at some point could just take

(02:01:26):
over the you know, the the Torchs from Lebron and
continue with that Lakers organization. And now the Knicks, who
have missed out on so many free agents over the years,
are actually a winning basketball team and so now you're
starting this is a team that would be in the playoffs,
and no, it's not going to be. It's not going
to be this year. But when you start to look

(02:01:46):
down the line, I mean, listen, I'm a Milwaukee Bucks fan,
and the Janice contract status hovered over this team and
he couldn't even make his decision until this past shortened
off season and whether he wanted to be a Buck
or not, but it was still there for a year prior,
two years prior, and to see how giddy he was
to talk about New York, I actually think this is

(02:02:09):
something a lot of times I think we are media
and we blow it out of proportion. But today was
a game as you said that they should have had
you had Lonzo Ball not make the play. Stan Van
Gundi even said himself that a high school team knows
how to make that play. And then you lose in
overtime as you're fighting for your life to make the
Western Conference playing tournament, and you're smiling and saying, man,

(02:02:29):
I love to play in New York. And I'm not
criticizing Zion. I think that just tells you where his
frame of mind is. Man. The players continue to run
the association, and uh, I think this is the start
of the storyline. We're gonna here for a while. It's
a star player. You move the needle. I mean, Zion,
there's only a few guys Jordan's you know who that is? Kobe,

(02:02:53):
you know who that is? Lebron, you know who that
is I've ever seen you know who that is? Shack?
You know who that is? When you Zion like he
he's where Now it's just one name and you know
exactly who they're talking about, who he is, and so
you better be competitive. And if not, these guys want

(02:03:14):
to play in big markets, big cities. Um, that's just
the reality of what we are. The Knicks. Maybe in
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