June 12, 2021 • 46 mins
LaVar Arrington, TJ Houshmandzadeh, and Plaxico Burress respond to Basketball Hall of Fame NBA Writer Peter Vecsey's comments saying that the Brooklyn Nets don't need James Harden. LaVar doubles down on his claim that the 76ers will get past the Nets to make it to the NBA Finals, but Plaxico explains why one of the team's All-Stars is their biggest weakness. Plus, the Utah Jazz are showing just how good they are.
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Lets you want NFL experience, then this is the show
for you. This is up on game with the Barari, Ted,
t J. Hush Benzana and Plaques Co Burres. Did you
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hear that? LaVar Arrington, t J. Hudgmans Otta, Plexico Burst.
It's a show with three of the best to ever
do it on and off the field. And now here's
Pro Bowlers, LaVar Art, t J. Hushman, Sanna and super
Bowl Chiffy and Plexico Burress. Yes, sir, yes, sir. Welcome
(01:22):
to the show. Welcome to the show. You heard it.
It's up on game. I'm a man. T J. Hushman's atta,
I'm a man, stretched armstrong himself. Flexico burst. That might
be my new new nickname for you, Flexico. What you
think about that? Man? You still got muscles or they
they fallen down on the bottom of your arms? Man?
What you got a couple of months ago? At look
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at it? You ain't to answer the question, he said,
you got us? I'm ready to flex what I need
to flex? That's all that I did see it a
couple of months ago. He looked like he's coming off
that edge. And I ain't talking about as a seever,
I'm talking about it. How about you wait two forties
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going exactly. You ain't gonna say two two seven. I
am not arounding that off. What you're playing at? What
you play at? Jesus, Yes it is. He looked like
a d N cause, yes, that is bad. Welcome down boy, game. Hey,
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that's why, that's why a couple of weeks ago he
said I can go play d n better. Right, That's
why he said he gonna go trial for the Lakers,
because he's gonna play down low on the blocks, look
absolutely post pivot and distribute, baby hey man, looking like
a post player. And speaking of post players, we're gonna
talk NBA playoffs. As you know, I gotta send shots
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out to our affiliates out there, thank you for supporting us.
Outs out to our guys in the back. What up?
What up? What up? Uh? Yeah, we got Don back there,
we got Ryan, we got my man Big Doozel. He's
up in there today. We got David Gascon during our
updates and trending. Uh so, let's jump right into this, guys.
I mean, obviously LaVar is catching up. I have made
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bold predictions in the past that have fallen on their faces.
A plex. He made a bold prediction and ran with
the number one team in the West. And you know
what front runners do that are fans of the l
A Lakers. They come up with job as run back
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excuses like what t J just put out there on
our show to begin with, When you go out on
a limb, that's saying Memphis is gonna upset Utah going
out on the limb. It's not going with the number
one seed A A plex When when I said Utah,
when I said the team, everybody laugh that me from
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Brussard to t J. Hudsman's I don't know that you
were in on that. I don't. I ain't gonna say
you was in on that. PLEXA it is that what
you're saying. I said, Well, first off, first off, they
not where. Here's what I'm gonna say. Here's what I'm
gonna say. I on my bracket, I chose the Clippers
and the seventies sixers to play in the championship round.
(04:23):
But but but can you come in here and talk
about the Jazz. But but I said, and I have
said it and over and over and over again, that
the Utah Jazz will be the team that comes out
of the West. I've said it. I said it on
on FS one, I said it a hundred times. I actually,
if I'm being a hundred percent on is I've allowed
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people to plant seeds of doubt in my heart. And
when I was choosing the teams for my my brackets,
the bracket I put together was based off of a
moment of weakness, not a moment of truth. How you
gonna hoot something and then do something that's that's like
your kids? Do as I say, not as I do. Hey,
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if we go back to the show a couple of
weeks when we had Chris blush out on the show.
I know y'all can remember me saying, I say, Chris,
do you think that the Utah Jazz can come out
of the West if they don't make three pointers? You did?
I remember that? And he said, everybody joked. Everybody's punchline
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to joking about the NBA playoffs have been the Utah Jazz.
So this l a fake I mean Laker, This l
a Laker uh fan over here sitting there saying that
picking the number one seed, Like, yeah, did you pick
the l A Lakers to leave out in the first round?
Did we say they were going to get ejected from
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the playoffs in the first round? I believe I believe
that I hold on this. I believe that that you
thought Jays were a good basketball team, but I didn't
expect to for them to be playing at the at
the rate that they're playing that right now. Deep down,
I was saying to myself, they really don't have the
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complete team to make it out of the West. But
people calling rude to god bear soft. Is Donovan Mitchell
gonna be healthy enough? Is he gonna play big enough
that that's a fair question. They have enough? Fair question?
Do they have enough weapons everywhere else to be able
to do what they need to do? No, it's not.
Come on, man and Mike and Mike Colleye isn't even
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playing and Mike colly ain't even playing. I did not
think they could beat the Clippers. I really didn't. They
are id not either. Donovan Mitchell, Donovan Mitchell, He's a superstar,
said one thousand said. Donovan Mitchell is one of the
(06:55):
best players in the league. And when you say who's
the best player in the league, his name never gets
brought up. Six seven guystah, everybody jokes, I said, even when,
even when, even when we were talking about the selections
for the All Star Weekend All Star teams and they
took Donovan and go Bear last. Everybody be trying to
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clown on the Utah Jazz. But you know what they
plan that trumpet, they plan that trombone, tuba and that
saxophone on y'all asses today on that ass today, y'all,
y'all better hit and throw that away. You were with
the hat out of your hearts. You were, you were
you gotta work to get the hat out of your hearts.
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You were with Utah Herbally. You were with what's U
taugh Herbally. But when it came time to paper, when
it came trying to put them in the paper, he
wasn't with them. Here you go, he wouldn't. I like
what you just did. You can't tell me. You cannot
tell me that you win my corner, but your actually
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show otherwise got Now you kind of got my back. Now,
you kind of right away. I told you why I
did it. I had a moment of weakness. I said
it at his moment of weakness. And he want to
act like I told you. I was on your talk.
You're telling me one thing you're doing. Hey, I got
your back, man. Regardless of what happened. Hey, hold up,
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hold up, chump, your team is at home. At least
the two teams I picked us still in there. At
least they still in there. Y'all boys, what you say
fishing the fishing? They all playing for second place anyway,
So it don't matter Brooklyn is not gonna and I'm
glad you did that. I'm glad hold on, t J,
hold On. Here we go. So so prior to the show,
(08:46):
Peter Vezi did an interview with with with Furman and
Hollands on the show before and he had some pretty
interesting things to say about your team. Uh, well, one
player in particular on that team. Here's the sound bite
from it. I want to get y'all's opinion on this
because I want to talk about this as we're talking
about everybody else is playing for a second, listen to
(09:08):
what Mr Peter Vessey had to say. It's like watching
uh the Greek free What the hell is he doing
taking three pointers? You know, I mean, my god, thank you.
The nets are like, oh please please take the three pointers?
How many times? And you think you're gonna get fouled
out in three point? Right's an idiot talking about and
(09:34):
you know, even in b but I hate seeing him
do it. He's so he's unstoppable close to the hoop.
But they get this ego to oh, let's let's shoot
some three. But he's been a three point shooter than
the free all right, Now that that's him talking about
Joannis and NB. But here's what he had to say
about your guy, James Harden for the Brooklyn Nets. Well,
(09:56):
I think it's obvious they don't need him, and they
never did because now you've got, you know, three official
scorers in the same lineup. Hardened, you know, to his
to his uh, to his credit, he became a playmaker
for the most for many many times. You know, he
came and he was always a great passer. But I
(10:19):
don't I know for a fact, you know, Houston, Uh,
people hated playing with him because he dominated the ball.
You know, Look, he got into it with Chris Paul,
he got he got rid of him Westbrook and him
didn't fit anymore. You know, he's very difficult to play with.
And plus he's a very difficult person. Um, you know,
and uh, you know, I'm not gonna go there with that,
(10:43):
but I think down the road, you know, you guys
see this guy have a lot of a lot of
problems off the court. Eventually that will come out. So, uh,
they didn't need him, They didn't need him. Uh, yeah,
he's on the floor. You gotta go out, three people,
you gotta go out, Actually, gotta go out. Every body, everybody,
everybody on that team can shoot. Um, so I don't
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I don't think they need him to win it or
to get to the finals now, shouts out to Peter Vessey.
He is known as a combative, confrontational writer for for
The New York for The New York Times, uh or
the New York Post. Excuse me, the clown sound was
(11:24):
was a sound effect that was not Peter Vessey collin
him a clown. Just so we're all clear on that.
But which part of this piece of the bone of
the meat do y'all want on this one? Do you
want to talk about him calling uh Janice an idiot
for shooting? Like? Is it is it that that James
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Harden is not needed or necessary? Here's what we're gonna do.
Here's what we're gonna do. Call in eight seven, seven
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(12:27):
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It wasn't me. It was a sound effect, super low
lit like walk in. I'm like, what's going on today?
I wait for my cocktail? So hey, Ryan Hollins was
up in this thing like man taking something. Bro. You're
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I think it's obvious they don't need them, and they
never did because now you've got, you know, three official
scorers in the same lineup. Hardened you know, to his
to his uh uh, to his credit, he became playmaker
(15:50):
for the most for many many times. You know, he
came and he was always a great pass. But I
don't I know for a fact. You know, Houston people
hated playing with him because he dominated the ball. You know, look,
he got into it with Chris Paul, he got he
got rid of him Westbrook and him didn't fit anymore.
You know, he's very difficult to play with. And plus
(16:11):
he's a very difficult person. Um, you know, and uh,
you know, I'm not gonna go there with that, but
I think down the road, you know, you're gonna see
this guy have a lot of a lot of problems
off the court. Eventually that will come out. So, uh,
they didn't need him, They didn't need him. Uh. Yeah,
he's on the floor. You gotta go out, three people, Uh,
(16:34):
you gotta go out, Actually, gotta go out everybody, everybody,
everybody on that team. Can shoot um, so I don't.
I don't think they need him to to win it
or to get to the finals. That was Peter Vessey.
He was just on with Furman and Hollins and had
some very very strong opinions as Peter Vessey does and
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is historically known for, uh, some very very strong opinions
of out James Harden, who wants At first, you're listening
to up on game by the way, I'm Lavarrington, it's
Plexico Birds and t J. Hushman's outa we're talking NBA playoffs. Uh,
we were really really talking about the Utah Jazz. It
was dominated. Uh, it was dominating, like their performances so
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far in the first segment, but it transitioned into t
J basically saying that everybody's playing second to the Brooklyn Nets,
and well, Peter VESSI had those things to say about
uh Brooklyn Net James Harden, who is currently not playing.
Uh they don't believe that that or Bessy doesn't believe
they need James Harden and had some very uh very
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very straight to the point, uh opinions about him as
a person. Personal there were personal opinions thrown out there.
What set you guys to this. I mean, this is
Let me just start off by saying, very quickly, this
is why up on game is the E I E A.
You know why, because we don't do that, like he don't,
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we don't do that. If you're wrong, you're wrong. If
you're right, you're right. If you're good, you're good. If
you're terrible, you're terrible. I'll go first, and I'll go first,
because when we're all former players, obviously, I didn't like
it when someone would discuss me and they made it
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personal because you don't know me, you don't know me,
like I'll never forget this, I'll never forget this plex
we're playing. I had left Cincinnati and I go to
Seattle and we're on the plane and I land and
somebody like, bro, Trent Dilford is killing you on TV.
I'm like, huh, he's saying this, this and this about me.
I'm like, I don't even know what. Trent Dilford made
(18:43):
it personal. So I got Trent Dilford's number and I
sent him a message. Went crazy and Trent Dufford was
not a punk. He was like, you hit me in
my mouth, I'm gonna hit you right back. In your
mouth because I told you, when I see you, I'm
taking off on you. That's what I told him. He
was like, and I'm gonna hit you right back. We
end up squashing it somebody on Seattle. Uh, then I'm
gonna come punch him in the mouth and was lying
(19:05):
about me. Talk to my boy TJ like that, I'm
gonna come punch you and your I'm gonna pop you
right upside your head. Me and Trent were cool now
because we talked it out, and I said to myself,
I'll never make it personal when I discuss any athlete,
because when you make it personal, it's like you have
(19:26):
a vendetta, you have an act to grind what There's
no reason at all to make it personal with any player.
The only reason you would make it personal is you
don't like him, or you're basically doing somebody else's dirty
work that doesn't like him, report on him or that
player and his abilities and what you collect information. Way, Yes,
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and I hate people or people in the media that
do that that make it personal. But when you make
it personal people like that, it's else. But you gotta
be careful because you make it personal with the wrong player,
they hear it, then it's it's a problem. Having hardened
is a luxury. Jeff Bezos doesn't need eight ten billion dollars,
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but you damn sure believe he wants it. And the
same thing, but they don't need James Harden. You always
want a dollar more, right, and so want James Harden
is a luxury that every team in the league will take.
Like Peter Vessey is tripping, he's tripping. James Harden is
one of the top seven players in the NBA, you
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probably could say top five. Who wouldn't want him on
their team? Can they win it without him? Probably? But
I prefer to win it with him. If I'm the Nets,
A lot of dope athletes is touched anyway, go plex.
Not only is Peters tripping, I totally I disagree with
him because I think that the Brooklyn Nets need James
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Harden if they want to win the World Championship. They
may not need him to get out of the East,
because you know, the East just is just is just
going to be a walk through for them. But but
if they want to have the opportunity to win the
World Championship, when if they run into Utah, Jazz or
Phoenix Suns. James Harden has to be James Harden has
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to be healthy. So I don't care what Peter Vesty says.
He's tripping the Brooklyn that showed me the other night
that how much they need James Harden. And yesterday, I
don't know if y'all seen this cryptic tweet that James
Harden put out. Did y'all see the tweek he basically
he basically tweeted his own self. He tweeted his name.
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So what that tells me is that he's trying to
insinuate to the team and everybody else that are sitting
out there watching. He's basically saying that, you know what,
I am the guy that makes this ship go. They
can't do it without me. And I think that tweet
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that he put out yesterday, basically tweeting his name, he
put James Harden and that was it, James Harden thirteen.
To me, he's telling everybody that they can't do this
without me. I'm him in case you forgot right, that's
what the tweet insinuated to me, to uh, to everybody else,
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and I think to his team, and he's just saying,
to listen, they can't do it without me, y'all can
talk all that crazy stuff y'all want to. Katie's here,
he's back, Kyrie Irvine. But we are the Big three,
and they cannot win the World Championship without me. I
think that's what exactly what that tweet meant. They're gonna
lose to the Sixers. Um, here's here's the thing, here's
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the thing. He's okay, that's fine, y'all. Y'all said I
was tripping about Utah, and then y'all circle back around
and then y'all saying about he told himself he was
tripping about Utah because he picked the Clippers. Man, He
told himself to say, yeah, the same, Yeah you wanted
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them dudes when you used to capping in the school yard.
He used to use everybody's argument against them. Though, yeah,
your mom too. We get the control room in on this.
How can we just needs all opinions done? Back there,
looking like skip to my loop behind the microphone out here,
you face face, Can you tell everybody you picking the
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Utah Jazz but pick the Clippers? Does that make sense?
It doesn't? Okay, all right, let me hold on, hold on,
hold on. Yeah, it's like filling out your bracket. All right,
we wouldn't like you know what, but I like this debate. Ryan,
go ahead and answer. Go ahead, say what you want
to say. Go ahead. I agree that it does not mean.
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Now now here's the cross examination. Here's the cross exam.
Can I say, Can I say? Can I say to
you guys, I think that they're the best team, but
they won't win. That's for the question doesn't make sense.
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I think that the Utah Jazz are the best team
in the going into the playoffs in the Western Conference
or the NBA. I think that they're the best team,
most complete team going into the playoffs this year. That's
what I said. I said in the NBA playoffs this year.
Now we can look at Brooklyn Nets and say that
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they're more talented. But I look at it and I
say when I when I say the best team, I
say well rounded, chemistry, understand what they're doing. Now. I
heard an interview where they were talking about the complexities
of what the game plans have been for the Utah
Jazz and how they're executing at such a high level.
You have to have guys that are at a high
level to be able to do those types of things.
(25:01):
And I believe that is the Utah Jazz. Now, with
that being said, I did have a seat of doubt
in my heart when I made my Brackett. So just
because the seed of doubt is in there, so now
you're gonna claim to No, no, no, it's not that.
It's just I'm not claiming two teams. I'm going to
go with my my pick. Obviously my pick, it is
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my pick. But I said that the Utah Jazz is
the team to beat. I did say that. And just
because I did not pick them to win at all,
does not mean that I don't think that they're the
best team. Is that it? Can that be a true statement? Yes?
Or no? Can that be a true statement? So you're
gonna talk over me when I'm asking Don and Ryan
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answer the question. But but you kind of course them that.
My question is like, well, where did the sense of
doubt come from? There's too many haters out here, and
I let the hate and just like, just like and
I wasn't worried about them. I just I there's so
many of them. Might heard it. You know how good
heard the whispers? You know how good it would have
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been for your bracket to have said, do Utah Jazz.
You would have been the only one. You know how
good it would have been for your bracket to be
without the Lakers on Do you know how good that
would have been? Do you know how good your bracket
would have been if you didn't pick the l A Lakers?
We had injuries, you just said earlier. So when when
the series started between the l A Clippers in the
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in the Utah, the Clippers had I said they had
the Clippers. I wasn't talking about school as I said,
the Clippers had to win because I picked them on
my bracket. I did not believe that's some law school
stuff right there. As you called him up. Listen, I
am guilty also when the fit when when when the
(26:47):
series first sawed, I'm saying to myself, and the way
that the Los Angeles Clippers got out of that first
round no excited last year, I'm saying to myself, there
no way that the Utah Jazz will be able to
be the Clippers after last season, the way they lost
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in the playoffs. And I'm sitting and saying to myself,
I'm like, man, the Clippers, they just Paul George just
can't get it together and performed Kawhi Leonard is tired.
He has not come tired, performed, come tired to the
(27:27):
level of what you would think that he would play
at based on the playoff that he had last season.
I'm just thinking that he's gonna come into the playoffs
and be absolutely spec spectacling. He's the one that's called
himself playoff pe, pandemic pe or whatever the case may be.
We'll go out and and and and take over a
basketball game. And when you basketball. Maybe he meant my
(27:51):
play is off players, My play is off. What I'm said, Hey, Hey,
we've been love with it together. Is that that abbreviation?
We've been saying it rock the entire time? Hey, yeah,
I've been trying to tell y'all. Soon does this start?
My play is off? P that's go one right there. Hey,
(28:19):
let's go to my bad David Gasco. Let's get some
trinded bad. This is crazy right now, what you got Dave? Hey, guys,
we'll start things off in the world of soccer. Oddly enough,
Denmark midfielder Christian Ericson collapsed during the forty three minute
of today's match between Denmark and Finland. Uh CPR medical
unit came on CPR was performed on ericson he collapsed
(28:39):
the park and stadium in Copenhagen. Medical personnel took him
a minute forty four to get to him and perform CPR.
No status yet on him as it goes. The match
is suspended right now between Denmark and Finland, though, uh,
that's what we have right now. For over the sea
is Belgium and Russia supposed to get things under wait
about sixty minutes from now. As far as what the
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NBA goes today, Jazz and Clippers at eight thirty Eastern
five Pacific. Clippers down that series two games to none.
L A is a five point favorite in that ballgame.
National Hockey League Islanders and Lightning will get their series underway.
Puck drops at three o'clock Eastern, and then a Major
League Baseball about three minutes away from first pitched Nationals
and Giants from Do you see this is game one
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of a doubleheader. Guys, back to you, thanks Dave, thank
you very much. Thoughts and prayers out to to the
young man. Uh and and yeah to the family. UH.
I wonder do you believe that they embrace jazz music
in Utah? I mean, because you've been to jazz for
(29:44):
so long and listen. Utah isn't known for the music
of jazz music. They're known for like mountains and well
I think bear right, Yeah, I don't know, But do
they listen to jazz music now that you have? Like
some people are saying, Donovan Mitchell might be the greatest
(30:04):
Utah jazz basketball player of all times. Too early to
say that, you boys. Stephen A said, forget about them.
Don't talk about him no more. Don't say their names
to me, because ain't nobody doing what Donovan Mitchell was doing.
And I tend to I love the mail Man. I
do love the male man. He was the greatest powerful
(30:26):
they ever play until we saw Tim dunk about well yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah for twenty years. Yeah, he argued that the
greatest powerful ever played into those guys games. But has
he put this team in the position that Donovan Mitchell
has put him in? I mean John Stockton and called Malone.
They made it to a championship, they ran into Michael
(30:48):
Jordan's in the Chicago bull So with that being said,
I mean, and he's got to lead. Didn't Carl Malone
get a League MVP? He got a League v Peter
Donovan met she was on his way. But this way
too early, um to say he's the greatest jazz player.
Karl Malone was that, dude, John sty what if they
(31:11):
win it? If they win it, what if they win it,
if he wins it, if they win it all? What
if they win it he wins You would still I
would still say it's still too early, too early, but
he will have accomplished something that none of them were
able to do. Yeah, he didn't have to play against
Michael Jordan either, and he ain't got to play against
(31:32):
the Lakers either. How soon y'all? Hey, how how soon
y'all forget? The last time I checked, we are the
NBA champions. Last time I check with the NBA champion
last time. But yeah, I gotta get it. Are the
NBA champions last time I checked, and they said, right
(31:55):
where you at? That's okay. They stay comfortable. Store clock
twice is right twice today. You can't win them all.
We'll be back better, man. I no mighty worried about
no broken clock right twice a day saying T JR.
Lakers lost and they ain't gonna have to win against
the Lakers if they're gonna win the championship. That's all
(32:18):
I'm saying. I'm going you see switching the number six.
He mad now he mad, Now he mad, and he's
gonna show up. I gotta say something about Lebron. I
really bang with Lebron James. You know, I have been.
I have been classically a part of the debates against
Lebron James and his greatness because I've always made it
about m J. But I gotta be honest with you guys.
(32:41):
I am truly a Lebron James fan. And let me
tell you something about Lebron that I really, really truly like.
And we talk about not going personal on guys and
and making personal assessments like the conversation we were having
with Peter Vesty, and we can tell how interesting Peter
Vessey's comments were because we ain't even really tell, you know,
on him, and that's what if we set up the
(33:02):
segment with. But Peter, you know, we respect what you're doing,
but obviously it's it's true, wrong, it's true. It's true.
Game going on right now. So we're just gonna keep moving.
But with Lebron, you know, we just saw Brawny on
the cover of Sports Illustrator. He got his first Sports
Illustrated cover as a high school kid. Now he did
(33:25):
not get that cover as a basketball player. He got
it doing e gaming. He's with Phase Clan. If you
up on on you know, the whole e gaming industry
and stuff like that, you know that Phase Clan is
like super dope. Everybody knows who they are. Messes on Instagram.
I need to get better at madd but people, people,
(33:45):
people love Phase Clan. So Brawnie's with Phase Clan. Data
that he's on the cover of Sports Illustrator, And I'm
just sitting there thinking to myself. You know, I know
we all are very active with our kids and with
our families. And the one thing that I can always say,
no matter what, for good or for bad, you know,
because because we all have our bad. Like there's nobody
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out here that's perfect. But if you are taking care
of home first always, and you're faithful to that and
you're truthful to that, then to me, by creating those opportunities,
sharing that well, sharing that that education, pushing that wisdom,
imparting it onto your kids, they don't have to have
(34:26):
the pressure to be what you were as a player.
Like teach them the ways of success. Teach them the
ways of having options and understanding that the approach to
being great and the sport that I play in and
being considered the goat of what it is that I'm doing.
You can take those same type of of of processes
(34:49):
and belief and do it. And whatever it is that
you aspired to want to do, you can do it.
Don't allow anybody to tell you that you can't do it.
Like t J and others is saying that to the
Utah Jazz, you can do it. And that's what I
really enjoy about Lebron James, Like, I really enjoy the
fact that he empowers his family. Bro like and and
(35:10):
and so for what is worth shouts out the Lebron James.
Even though you're on vacation right now, enjoy your family
on your vacation. Okay, So back to the Brooklyn Nets,
back to James harten plex. You say they can't do
it and get it done without James Heart and I say,
even with James Hart and they're gonna lose to the
seventies sixers in the in the in the Eastern Finals,
(35:32):
in the Eastern Conference Finals. Before you came on, I'm
just telling you what I believe. I believe if the
if the Philadelphia seventies play like they played last night
and they keep playing, was that last night or night before,
they're they're starting to run and get last night and
be and be was dominant Simmons. Simmons is president, and
(35:54):
he's doing what he needs to do and really on
some like big boy bullyball right now and all he
can do gonna he can't shoot the basketball. Came, I'm
not going to hack hack ball. Got guys like Dame
Little Clown and this man like yo, you all star
point guard and you shootingford. It was from the from
the free throw line, like what part of the game
(36:15):
is that? And his NBA All Star How do you
make the All Star team shooting forty sent for the
free throw line? All I know is this, listen, Ben
Simmons is going to be the crutch to this basketball
team because he at at a lot of times during
(36:36):
basketball games he brings no value to the basketball and
that's is that's one of the things that's gonna hurt
this basketball team when they go forward to get to
the Eastern Conference Finals or whatever the case may be,
because he's just has too many laws during the course
of the game, where make Tyrese Max make sure y'all
(37:00):
clipped that if Benson was just sitting on the bitch,
the are losing absolutely nothing. All I'm gonna tell you
is this really. Ben Simmons is playing ball Joel and
yesterday and all of a sudden, Oh, he was aggressive
Joel and the basketball team even Joe l n B
(37:24):
in his zone. And I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna
get you that by himself. Seth Curry is making shots.
He's banging out shots. And I'm gonna tell you who
the difference maker has been. The difference maker has been
has been Tobias mean that one of the highest paid
players in the league. He has been the difference makers.
(37:45):
Stop qualifying it. You've been on the show with them
odd couple cats too much, man, But it is a qualifier, Parker,
He's a qualifier. If if you're one of the highest
paid players in the league, you shouldn't be. Oh, and
he's doing that's expected. If you took your kids to school,
you were supposed you don't quick salary into There's a
(38:12):
lot of no, no, I'm finishing, there's a lot of
bombs but there's are a lot of overlayaires. That's what
you guys are calling them, no phenomen that's my time.
That's my point pretty much. Oh my god, But he's playing.
(38:34):
But that's my that's my point. That's my point is
he's playing at a high enough level to actually make
that team. And then you you you sprinkle in a
little bit of Dwight Howard and get a little sprinkle
of goes very well. But they smoked. They match up
(38:56):
very well with the Brooklyn nets until gonna tell that
guy with the bear the number thirteen comes back and
now you got the three headed monster. You can't deal
with it? Simple? Uh Dollar Shaved Club is your dad's razor? Old?
Is he older than you? Well, you know what, get
him something new for Father's Day, all right? Because Father's
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as part of a gift set, you know, at the
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(39:36):
maybe this is for somebody else. I got Jonas on there.
But you know, as my name is, I mean put Jonas.
You know, I don't know, make sure you put Jonas.
That's Dollar Saved Club dot com slash Jonas. That's kind
of weird, but you know what, it's all right, it's
on my live read sheet. I just felt like Ron
bart Burgundy. Just then. You're listening to UP on Game.
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LaVar with with with t J and and plex and
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like we got a couple of minutes, still got another hour.
If you heard t J sitting there singing, uh, Nipsey Hustle,
shots out the nip in the family man, you know,
(43:14):
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but they don't play the music on the podcast because
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t J sounding like he thinks he's Nipsey, which he's
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So anyway, let's let's keep it moving, um. And we
we gotta go to a break. Obviously we got a
hard out, um. But I want to talk Aaron Rodgers.
I really want to get your guys opinion as offensive diva,
I mean offensive receivers um. And and understand, you know
(43:55):
the mindset of where Aaron Rodgers is right now, not
being at many camps. Is this going to be a
thing that that we should get used to and and
just assume that, well, Aaron Rodgers is really going to
leverage his way out of town or is this something
to to not uh be too concerned about. He's just taking,
(44:17):
you know, taking a little bit of time. I don't
want to touch on it just yet. I don't want
your's opinions just yet, because you know what, as you said,
t J. Turn does fly when you're having fun. And
and you know what, we're at the end of this
first hour. But I'm gonna tell you what we're gonna do.
We're gonna drop it off right here, but we're gonna
pick it up on the other side of this hour. Yeah,
(44:39):
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Lets you want NFL experience, then this is the show
for you. This is up on game with the Barari, Ted,
t J. Hush Benzana and Plaques Co Burres. Did you
(01:01):
hear that? LaVar Arrington, t J. Hudgmans Otta, Plexico Burst.
It's a show with three of the best to ever
do it on and off the field. And now here's
Pro Bowlers, LaVar Art, t J. Hushman, Sanna and super
Bowl Chiffy and Plexico Burress. Yes, sir, yes, sir. Welcome
(01:22):
to the show. Welcome to the show. You heard it.
It's up on game. I'm a man. T J. Hushman's atta,
I'm a man, stretched armstrong himself. Flexico burst. That might
be my new new nickname for you, Flexico. What you
think about that? Man? You still got muscles or they
they fallen down on the bottom of your arms? Man?
What you got a couple of months ago? At look
(01:46):
at it? You ain't to answer the question, he said,
you got us? I'm ready to flex what I need
to flex? That's all that I did see it a
couple of months ago. He looked like he's coming off
that edge. And I ain't talking about as a seever,
I'm talking about it. How about you wait two forties
(02:10):
going exactly. You ain't gonna say two two seven. I
am not arounding that off. What you're playing at? What
you play at? Jesus, Yes it is. He looked like
a d N cause, yes, that is bad. Welcome down boy, game. Hey,
(02:33):
that's why, that's why a couple of weeks ago he
said I can go play d n better. Right, That's
why he said he gonna go trial for the Lakers,
because he's gonna play down low on the blocks, look
absolutely post pivot and distribute, baby hey man, looking like
a post player. And speaking of post players, we're gonna
talk NBA playoffs. As you know, I gotta send shots
(02:56):
out to our affiliates out there, thank you for supporting us.
Outs out to our guys in the back. What up?
What up? What up? Uh? Yeah, we got Don back there,
we got Ryan, we got my man Big Doozel. He's
up in there today. We got David Gascon during our
updates and trending. Uh so, let's jump right into this, guys.
I mean, obviously LaVar is catching up. I have made
(03:19):
bold predictions in the past that have fallen on their faces.
A plex. He made a bold prediction and ran with
the number one team in the West. And you know
what front runners do that are fans of the l
A Lakers. They come up with job as run back
(03:39):
excuses like what t J just put out there on
our show to begin with, When you go out on
a limb, that's saying Memphis is gonna upset Utah going
out on the limb. It's not going with the number
one seed A A plex When when I said Utah,
when I said the team, everybody laugh that me from
(04:00):
Brussard to t J. Hudsman's I don't know that you
were in on that. I don't. I ain't gonna say
you was in on that. PLEXA it is that what
you're saying. I said, Well, first off, first off, they
not where. Here's what I'm gonna say. Here's what I'm
gonna say. I on my bracket, I chose the Clippers
and the seventies sixers to play in the championship round.
(04:23):
But but but can you come in here and talk
about the Jazz. But but I said, and I have
said it and over and over and over again, that
the Utah Jazz will be the team that comes out
of the West. I've said it. I said it on
on FS one, I said it a hundred times. I actually,
if I'm being a hundred percent on is I've allowed
(04:46):
people to plant seeds of doubt in my heart. And
when I was choosing the teams for my my brackets,
the bracket I put together was based off of a
moment of weakness, not a moment of truth. How you
gonna hoot something and then do something that's that's like
your kids? Do as I say, not as I do. Hey,
(05:08):
if we go back to the show a couple of
weeks when we had Chris blush out on the show.
I know y'all can remember me saying, I say, Chris,
do you think that the Utah Jazz can come out
of the West if they don't make three pointers? You did?
I remember that? And he said, everybody joked. Everybody's punchline
(05:30):
to joking about the NBA playoffs have been the Utah Jazz.
So this l a fake I mean Laker, This l
a Laker uh fan over here sitting there saying that
picking the number one seed, Like, yeah, did you pick
the l A Lakers to leave out in the first round?
Did we say they were going to get ejected from
(05:51):
the playoffs in the first round? I believe I believe
that I hold on this. I believe that that you
thought Jays were a good basketball team, but I didn't
expect to for them to be playing at the at
the rate that they're playing that right now. Deep down,
I was saying to myself, they really don't have the
(06:13):
complete team to make it out of the West. But
people calling rude to god bear soft. Is Donovan Mitchell
gonna be healthy enough? Is he gonna play big enough
that that's a fair question. They have enough? Fair question?
Do they have enough weapons everywhere else to be able
to do what they need to do? No, it's not.
Come on, man and Mike and Mike Colleye isn't even
(06:34):
playing and Mike colly ain't even playing. I did not
think they could beat the Clippers. I really didn't. They
are id not either. Donovan Mitchell, Donovan Mitchell, He's a superstar,
said one thousand said. Donovan Mitchell is one of the
(06:55):
best players in the league. And when you say who's
the best player in the league, his name never gets
brought up. Six seven guystah, everybody jokes, I said, even when,
even when, even when we were talking about the selections
for the All Star Weekend All Star teams and they
took Donovan and go Bear last. Everybody be trying to
(07:17):
clown on the Utah Jazz. But you know what they
plan that trumpet, they plan that trombone, tuba and that
saxophone on y'all asses today on that ass today, y'all,
y'all better hit and throw that away. You were with
the hat out of your hearts. You were, you were
you gotta work to get the hat out of your hearts.
(07:39):
You were with Utah Herbally. You were with what's U
taugh Herbally. But when it came time to paper, when
it came trying to put them in the paper, he
wasn't with them. Here you go, he wouldn't. I like
what you just did. You can't tell me. You cannot
tell me that you win my corner, but your actually
(08:00):
show otherwise got Now you kind of got my back. Now,
you kind of right away. I told you why I
did it. I had a moment of weakness. I said
it at his moment of weakness. And he want to
act like I told you. I was on your talk.
You're telling me one thing you're doing. Hey, I got
your back, man. Regardless of what happened. Hey, hold up,
(08:22):
hold up, chump, your team is at home. At least
the two teams I picked us still in there. At
least they still in there. Y'all boys, what you say
fishing the fishing? They all playing for second place anyway,
So it don't matter Brooklyn is not gonna and I'm
glad you did that. I'm glad hold on, t J,
hold On. Here we go. So so prior to the show,
(08:46):
Peter Vezi did an interview with with with Furman and
Hollands on the show before and he had some pretty
interesting things to say about your team. Uh, well, one
player in particular on that team. Here's the sound bite
from it. I want to get y'all's opinion on this
because I want to talk about this as we're talking
about everybody else is playing for a second, listen to
(09:08):
what Mr Peter Vessey had to say. It's like watching
uh the Greek free What the hell is he doing
taking three pointers? You know, I mean, my god, thank you.
The nets are like, oh please please take the three pointers?
How many times? And you think you're gonna get fouled
out in three point? Right's an idiot talking about and
(09:34):
you know, even in b but I hate seeing him
do it. He's so he's unstoppable close to the hoop.
But they get this ego to oh, let's let's shoot
some three. But he's been a three point shooter than
the free all right, Now that that's him talking about
Joannis and NB. But here's what he had to say
about your guy, James Harden for the Brooklyn Nets. Well,
(09:56):
I think it's obvious they don't need him, and they
never did because now you've got, you know, three official
scorers in the same lineup. Hardened, you know, to his
to his uh, to his credit, he became a playmaker
for the most for many many times. You know, he
came and he was always a great passer. But I
(10:19):
don't I know for a fact, you know, Houston, Uh,
people hated playing with him because he dominated the ball.
You know, Look, he got into it with Chris Paul,
he got he got rid of him Westbrook and him
didn't fit anymore. You know, he's very difficult to play with.
And plus he's a very difficult person. Um, you know,
and uh, you know, I'm not gonna go there with that,
(10:43):
but I think down the road, you know, you guys
see this guy have a lot of a lot of
problems off the court. Eventually that will come out. So, uh,
they didn't need him, They didn't need him. Uh, yeah,
he's on the floor. You gotta go out, three people,
you gotta go out, Actually, gotta go out. Every body, everybody,
everybody on that team can shoot. Um, so I don't
(11:04):
I don't think they need him to win it or
to get to the finals now, shouts out to Peter Vessey.
He is known as a combative, confrontational writer for for
The New York for The New York Times, uh or
the New York Post. Excuse me, the clown sound was
(11:24):
was a sound effect that was not Peter Vessey collin
him a clown. Just so we're all clear on that.
But which part of this piece of the bone of
the meat do y'all want on this one? Do you
want to talk about him calling uh Janice an idiot
for shooting? Like? Is it is it that that James
(11:45):
Harden is not needed or necessary? Here's what we're gonna do.
Here's what we're gonna do. Call in eight seven, seven
nine nine six six three six nine. We're going to
open up the phone lines to you, the callers as well,
and we're gonna take a quick break. And on the
other side of this break, what we're gonna do is
(12:05):
we're gonna, uh, We're gonna visit Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Pluto,
and all those other places Saturn out in in the
outer this ambiance. We have ye you out to see
Zombi this thing something else, But I don't know what
happened in this all We needed some fiber optics and
and uh you you would think some candles are about
(12:27):
to be lit the way somebody said a pole in here.
It wasn't me. It was a sound effect, super low
lit like walk in. I'm like, what's going on today?
I wait for my cocktail? So hey, Ryan Hollins was
up in this thing like man taking something. Bro. You're
(12:49):
listening to Up on Game. Get into the phone lines.
This show is off and running. We out the gates,
and you know what we're gonna do. We're gonna take
a quick break and we're gonna come back and we're
gonna jump into the p R Vessey Uh Andrew Ferman
uh with with Ryan Hollands interview on the other side
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I think it's obvious they don't need them, and they
never did because now you've got, you know, three official
scorers in the same lineup. Hardened you know, to his
to his uh uh, to his credit, he became playmaker
(15:50):
for the most for many many times. You know, he
came and he was always a great pass. But I
don't I know for a fact. You know, Houston people
hated playing with him because he dominated the ball. You know, look,
he got into it with Chris Paul, he got he
got rid of him Westbrook and him didn't fit anymore.
You know, he's very difficult to play with. And plus
(16:11):
he's a very difficult person. Um, you know, and uh,
you know, I'm not gonna go there with that, but
I think down the road, you know, you're gonna see
this guy have a lot of a lot of problems
off the court. Eventually that will come out. So, uh,
they didn't need him, They didn't need him. Uh. Yeah,
he's on the floor. You gotta go out, three people, Uh,
(16:34):
you gotta go out, Actually, gotta go out everybody, everybody,
everybody on that team. Can shoot um, so I don't.
I don't think they need him to to win it
or to get to the finals. That was Peter Vessey.
He was just on with Furman and Hollins and had
some very very strong opinions as Peter Vessey does and
(16:55):
is historically known for, uh, some very very strong opinions
of out James Harden, who wants At first, you're listening
to up on game by the way, I'm Lavarrington, it's
Plexico Birds and t J. Hushman's outa we're talking NBA playoffs. Uh,
we were really really talking about the Utah Jazz. It
was dominated. Uh, it was dominating, like their performances so
(17:16):
far in the first segment, but it transitioned into t
J basically saying that everybody's playing second to the Brooklyn Nets,
and well, Peter VESSI had those things to say about
uh Brooklyn Net James Harden, who is currently not playing.
Uh they don't believe that that or Bessy doesn't believe
they need James Harden and had some very uh very
(17:39):
very straight to the point, uh opinions about him as
a person. Personal there were personal opinions thrown out there.
What set you guys to this. I mean, this is
Let me just start off by saying, very quickly, this
is why up on game is the E I E A.
You know why, because we don't do that, like he don't,
(18:00):
we don't do that. If you're wrong, you're wrong. If
you're right, you're right. If you're good, you're good. If
you're terrible, you're terrible. I'll go first, and I'll go first,
because when we're all former players, obviously, I didn't like
it when someone would discuss me and they made it
(18:22):
personal because you don't know me, you don't know me,
like I'll never forget this, I'll never forget this plex
we're playing. I had left Cincinnati and I go to
Seattle and we're on the plane and I land and
somebody like, bro, Trent Dilford is killing you on TV.
I'm like, huh, he's saying this, this and this about me.
I'm like, I don't even know what. Trent Dilford made
(18:43):
it personal. So I got Trent Dilford's number and I
sent him a message. Went crazy and Trent Dufford was
not a punk. He was like, you hit me in
my mouth, I'm gonna hit you right back. In your
mouth because I told you, when I see you, I'm
taking off on you. That's what I told him. He
was like, and I'm gonna hit you right back. We
end up squashing it somebody on Seattle. Uh, then I'm
gonna come punch him in the mouth and was lying
(19:05):
about me. Talk to my boy TJ like that, I'm
gonna come punch you and your I'm gonna pop you
right upside your head. Me and Trent were cool now
because we talked it out, and I said to myself,
I'll never make it personal when I discuss any athlete,
because when you make it personal, it's like you have
(19:26):
a vendetta, you have an act to grind what There's
no reason at all to make it personal with any player.
The only reason you would make it personal is you
don't like him, or you're basically doing somebody else's dirty
work that doesn't like him, report on him or that
player and his abilities and what you collect information. Way, Yes,
(19:51):
and I hate people or people in the media that
do that that make it personal. But when you make
it personal people like that, it's else. But you gotta
be careful because you make it personal with the wrong player,
they hear it, then it's it's a problem. Having hardened
is a luxury. Jeff Bezos doesn't need eight ten billion dollars,
(20:14):
but you damn sure believe he wants it. And the
same thing, but they don't need James Harden. You always
want a dollar more, right, and so want James Harden
is a luxury that every team in the league will take.
Like Peter Vessey is tripping, he's tripping. James Harden is
one of the top seven players in the NBA, you
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probably could say top five. Who wouldn't want him on
their team? Can they win it without him? Probably? But
I prefer to win it with him. If I'm the Nets,
A lot of dope athletes is touched anyway, go plex.
Not only is Peters tripping, I totally I disagree with
him because I think that the Brooklyn Nets need James
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Harden if they want to win the World Championship. They
may not need him to get out of the East,
because you know, the East just is just is just
going to be a walk through for them. But but
if they want to have the opportunity to win the
World Championship, when if they run into Utah, Jazz or
Phoenix Suns. James Harden has to be James Harden has
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to be healthy. So I don't care what Peter Vesty says.
He's tripping the Brooklyn that showed me the other night
that how much they need James Harden. And yesterday, I
don't know if y'all seen this cryptic tweet that James
Harden put out. Did y'all see the tweek he basically
he basically tweeted his own self. He tweeted his name.
(21:44):
So what that tells me is that he's trying to
insinuate to the team and everybody else that are sitting
out there watching. He's basically saying that, you know what,
I am the guy that makes this ship go. They
can't do it without me. And I think that tweet
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that he put out yesterday, basically tweeting his name, he
put James Harden and that was it, James Harden thirteen.
To me, he's telling everybody that they can't do this
without me. I'm him in case you forgot right, that's
what the tweet insinuated to me, to uh, to everybody else,
(22:27):
and I think to his team, and he's just saying,
to listen, they can't do it without me, y'all can
talk all that crazy stuff y'all want to. Katie's here,
he's back, Kyrie Irvine. But we are the Big three,
and they cannot win the World Championship without me. I
think that's what exactly what that tweet meant. They're gonna
lose to the Sixers. Um, here's here's the thing, here's
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the thing. He's okay, that's fine, y'all. Y'all said I
was tripping about Utah, and then y'all circle back around
and then y'all saying about he told himself he was
tripping about Utah because he picked the Clippers. Man, He
told himself to say, yeah, the same, Yeah you wanted
(23:08):
them dudes when you used to capping in the school yard.
He used to use everybody's argument against them. Though, yeah,
your mom too. We get the control room in on this.
How can we just needs all opinions done? Back there,
looking like skip to my loop behind the microphone out here,
you face face, Can you tell everybody you picking the
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Utah Jazz but pick the Clippers? Does that make sense?
It doesn't? Okay, all right, let me hold on, hold on,
hold on. Yeah, it's like filling out your bracket. All right,
we wouldn't like you know what, but I like this debate. Ryan,
go ahead and answer. Go ahead, say what you want
to say. Go ahead. I agree that it does not mean.
(23:57):
Now now here's the cross examination. Here's the cross exam.
Can I say, Can I say? Can I say to
you guys, I think that they're the best team, but
they won't win. That's for the question doesn't make sense.
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I think that the Utah Jazz are the best team
in the going into the playoffs in the Western Conference
or the NBA. I think that they're the best team,
most complete team going into the playoffs this year. That's
what I said. I said in the NBA playoffs this year.
Now we can look at Brooklyn Nets and say that
(24:39):
they're more talented. But I look at it and I
say when I when I say the best team, I
say well rounded, chemistry, understand what they're doing. Now. I
heard an interview where they were talking about the complexities
of what the game plans have been for the Utah
Jazz and how they're executing at such a high level.
You have to have guys that are at a high
level to be able to do those types of things.
(25:01):
And I believe that is the Utah Jazz. Now, with
that being said, I did have a seat of doubt
in my heart when I made my Brackett. So just
because the seed of doubt is in there, so now
you're gonna claim to No, no, no, it's not that.
It's just I'm not claiming two teams. I'm going to
go with my my pick. Obviously my pick, it is
(25:22):
my pick. But I said that the Utah Jazz is
the team to beat. I did say that. And just
because I did not pick them to win at all,
does not mean that I don't think that they're the
best team. Is that it? Can that be a true statement? Yes?
Or no? Can that be a true statement? So you're
gonna talk over me when I'm asking Don and Ryan
(25:43):
answer the question. But but you kind of course them that.
My question is like, well, where did the sense of
doubt come from? There's too many haters out here, and
I let the hate and just like, just like and
I wasn't worried about them. I just I there's so
many of them. Might heard it. You know how good
heard the whispers? You know how good it would have
(26:04):
been for your bracket to have said, do Utah Jazz.
You would have been the only one. You know how
good it would have been for your bracket to be
without the Lakers on Do you know how good that
would have been? Do you know how good your bracket
would have been if you didn't pick the l A Lakers?
We had injuries, you just said earlier. So when when
the series started between the l A Clippers in the
(26:26):
in the Utah, the Clippers had I said they had
the Clippers. I wasn't talking about school as I said,
the Clippers had to win because I picked them on
my bracket. I did not believe that's some law school
stuff right there. As you called him up. Listen, I
am guilty also when the fit when when when the
(26:47):
series first sawed, I'm saying to myself, and the way
that the Los Angeles Clippers got out of that first
round no excited last year, I'm saying to myself, there
no way that the Utah Jazz will be able to
be the Clippers after last season, the way they lost
(27:07):
in the playoffs. And I'm sitting and saying to myself,
I'm like, man, the Clippers, they just Paul George just
can't get it together and performed Kawhi Leonard is tired.
He has not come tired, performed, come tired to the
(27:27):
level of what you would think that he would play
at based on the playoff that he had last season.
I'm just thinking that he's gonna come into the playoffs
and be absolutely spec spectacling. He's the one that's called
himself playoff pe, pandemic pe or whatever the case may be.
We'll go out and and and and take over a
basketball game. And when you basketball. Maybe he meant my
(27:51):
play is off players, My play is off. What I'm said, Hey, Hey,
we've been love with it together. Is that that abbreviation?
We've been saying it rock the entire time? Hey, yeah,
I've been trying to tell y'all. Soon does this start?
My play is off? P that's go one right there. Hey,
(28:19):
let's go to my bad David Gasco. Let's get some
trinded bad. This is crazy right now, what you got Dave? Hey, guys,
we'll start things off in the world of soccer. Oddly enough,
Denmark midfielder Christian Ericson collapsed during the forty three minute
of today's match between Denmark and Finland. Uh CPR medical
unit came on CPR was performed on ericson he collapsed
(28:39):
the park and stadium in Copenhagen. Medical personnel took him
a minute forty four to get to him and perform CPR.
No status yet on him as it goes. The match
is suspended right now between Denmark and Finland, though, uh,
that's what we have right now. For over the sea
is Belgium and Russia supposed to get things under wait
about sixty minutes from now. As far as what the
(28:59):
NBA goes today, Jazz and Clippers at eight thirty Eastern
five Pacific. Clippers down that series two games to none.
L A is a five point favorite in that ballgame.
National Hockey League Islanders and Lightning will get their series underway.
Puck drops at three o'clock Eastern, and then a Major
League Baseball about three minutes away from first pitched Nationals
and Giants from Do you see this is game one
(29:20):
of a doubleheader. Guys, back to you, thanks Dave, thank
you very much. Thoughts and prayers out to to the
young man. Uh and and yeah to the family. UH.
I wonder do you believe that they embrace jazz music
in Utah? I mean, because you've been to jazz for
(29:44):
so long and listen. Utah isn't known for the music
of jazz music. They're known for like mountains and well
I think bear right, Yeah, I don't know, But do
they listen to jazz music now that you have? Like
some people are saying, Donovan Mitchell might be the greatest
(30:04):
Utah jazz basketball player of all times. Too early to
say that, you boys. Stephen A said, forget about them.
Don't talk about him no more. Don't say their names
to me, because ain't nobody doing what Donovan Mitchell was doing.
And I tend to I love the mail Man. I
do love the male man. He was the greatest powerful
(30:26):
they ever play until we saw Tim dunk about well yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah for twenty years. Yeah, he argued that the
greatest powerful ever played into those guys games. But has
he put this team in the position that Donovan Mitchell
has put him in? I mean John Stockton and called Malone.
They made it to a championship, they ran into Michael
(30:48):
Jordan's in the Chicago bull So with that being said,
I mean, and he's got to lead. Didn't Carl Malone
get a League MVP? He got a League v Peter
Donovan met she was on his way. But this way
too early, um to say he's the greatest jazz player.
Karl Malone was that, dude, John sty what if they
(31:11):
win it? If they win it, what if they win it,
if he wins it, if they win it all? What
if they win it he wins You would still I
would still say it's still too early, too early, but
he will have accomplished something that none of them were
able to do. Yeah, he didn't have to play against
Michael Jordan either, and he ain't got to play against
(31:32):
the Lakers either. How soon y'all? Hey, how how soon
y'all forget? The last time I checked, we are the
NBA champions. Last time I check with the NBA champion
last time. But yeah, I gotta get it. Are the
NBA champions last time I checked, and they said, right
(31:55):
where you at? That's okay. They stay comfortable. Store clock
twice is right twice today. You can't win them all.
We'll be back better, man. I no mighty worried about
no broken clock right twice a day saying T JR.
Lakers lost and they ain't gonna have to win against
the Lakers if they're gonna win the championship. That's all
(32:18):
I'm saying. I'm going you see switching the number six.
He mad now he mad, Now he mad, and he's
gonna show up. I gotta say something about Lebron. I
really bang with Lebron James. You know, I have been.
I have been classically a part of the debates against
Lebron James and his greatness because I've always made it
about m J. But I gotta be honest with you guys.
(32:41):
I am truly a Lebron James fan. And let me
tell you something about Lebron that I really, really truly like.
And we talk about not going personal on guys and
and making personal assessments like the conversation we were having
with Peter Vesty, and we can tell how interesting Peter
Vessey's comments were because we ain't even really tell, you know,
on him, and that's what if we set up the
(33:02):
segment with. But Peter, you know, we respect what you're doing,
but obviously it's it's true, wrong, it's true. It's true.
Game going on right now. So we're just gonna keep moving.
But with Lebron, you know, we just saw Brawny on
the cover of Sports Illustrator. He got his first Sports
Illustrated cover as a high school kid. Now he did
(33:25):
not get that cover as a basketball player. He got
it doing e gaming. He's with Phase Clan. If you
up on on you know, the whole e gaming industry
and stuff like that, you know that Phase Clan is
like super dope. Everybody knows who they are. Messes on Instagram.
I need to get better at madd but people, people,
(33:45):
people love Phase Clan. So Brawnie's with Phase Clan. Data
that he's on the cover of Sports Illustrator, And I'm
just sitting there thinking to myself. You know, I know
we all are very active with our kids and with
our families. And the one thing that I can always say,
no matter what, for good or for bad, you know,
because because we all have our bad. Like there's nobody
(34:05):
out here that's perfect. But if you are taking care
of home first always, and you're faithful to that and
you're truthful to that, then to me, by creating those opportunities,
sharing that well, sharing that that education, pushing that wisdom,
imparting it onto your kids, they don't have to have
(34:26):
the pressure to be what you were as a player.
Like teach them the ways of success. Teach them the
ways of having options and understanding that the approach to
being great and the sport that I play in and
being considered the goat of what it is that I'm doing.
You can take those same type of of of processes
(34:49):
and belief and do it. And whatever it is that
you aspired to want to do, you can do it.
Don't allow anybody to tell you that you can't do it.
Like t J and others is saying that to the
Utah Jazz, you can do it. And that's what I
really enjoy about Lebron James, Like, I really enjoy the
fact that he empowers his family. Bro like and and
(35:10):
and so for what is worth shouts out the Lebron James.
Even though you're on vacation right now, enjoy your family
on your vacation. Okay, So back to the Brooklyn Nets,
back to James harten plex. You say they can't do
it and get it done without James Heart and I say,
even with James Hart and they're gonna lose to the
seventies sixers in the in the in the Eastern Finals,
(35:32):
in the Eastern Conference Finals. Before you came on, I'm
just telling you what I believe. I believe if the
if the Philadelphia seventies play like they played last night
and they keep playing, was that last night or night before,
they're they're starting to run and get last night and
be and be was dominant Simmons. Simmons is president, and
(35:54):
he's doing what he needs to do and really on
some like big boy bullyball right now and all he
can do gonna he can't shoot the basketball. Came, I'm
not going to hack hack ball. Got guys like Dame
Little Clown and this man like yo, you all star
point guard and you shootingford. It was from the from
the free throw line, like what part of the game
(36:15):
is that? And his NBA All Star How do you
make the All Star team shooting forty sent for the
free throw line? All I know is this, listen, Ben
Simmons is going to be the crutch to this basketball
team because he at at a lot of times during
(36:36):
basketball games he brings no value to the basketball and
that's is that's one of the things that's gonna hurt
this basketball team when they go forward to get to
the Eastern Conference Finals or whatever the case may be,
because he's just has too many laws during the course
of the game, where make Tyrese Max make sure y'all
(37:00):
clipped that if Benson was just sitting on the bitch,
the are losing absolutely nothing. All I'm gonna tell you
is this really. Ben Simmons is playing ball Joel and
yesterday and all of a sudden, Oh, he was aggressive
Joel and the basketball team even Joe l n B
(37:24):
in his zone. And I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna
get you that by himself. Seth Curry is making shots.
He's banging out shots. And I'm gonna tell you who
the difference maker has been. The difference maker has been
has been Tobias mean that one of the highest paid
players in the league. He has been the difference makers.
(37:45):
Stop qualifying it. You've been on the show with them
odd couple cats too much, man, But it is a qualifier, Parker,
He's a qualifier. If if you're one of the highest
paid players in the league, you shouldn't be. Oh, and
he's doing that's expected. If you took your kids to school,
you were supposed you don't quick salary into There's a
(38:12):
lot of no, no, I'm finishing, there's a lot of
bombs but there's are a lot of overlayaires. That's what
you guys are calling them, no phenomen that's my time.
That's my point pretty much. Oh my god, But he's playing.
(38:34):
But that's my that's my point. That's my point is
he's playing at a high enough level to actually make
that team. And then you you you sprinkle in a
little bit of Dwight Howard and get a little sprinkle
of goes very well. But they smoked. They match up
(38:56):
very well with the Brooklyn nets until gonna tell that
guy with the bear the number thirteen comes back and
now you got the three headed monster. You can't deal
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maybe this is for somebody else. I got Jonas on there.
But you know, as my name is, I mean put Jonas.
You know, I don't know, make sure you put Jonas.
That's Dollar Saved Club dot com slash Jonas. That's kind
of weird, but you know what, it's all right, it's
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If you heard t J sitting there singing, uh, Nipsey Hustle,
shots out the nip in the family man, you know,
(43:14):
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(43:34):
So anyway, let's let's keep it moving, um. And we
we gotta go to a break. Obviously we got a
hard out, um. But I want to talk Aaron Rodgers.
I really want to get your guys opinion as offensive diva,
I mean offensive receivers um. And and understand, you know
(43:55):
the mindset of where Aaron Rodgers is right now, not
being at many camps. Is this going to be a
thing that that we should get used to and and
just assume that, well, Aaron Rodgers is really going to
leverage his way out of town or is this something
to to not uh be too concerned about. He's just taking,
(44:17):
you know, taking a little bit of time. I don't
want to touch on it just yet. I don't want
your's opinions just yet, because you know what, as you said,
t J. Turn does fly when you're having fun. And
and you know what, we're at the end of this
first hour. But I'm gonna tell you what we're gonna do.
We're gonna drop it off right here, but we're gonna
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twelve or one where you're at. But you know, you
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