Aaron Torres & Jason Martin Break Down Oklahoma's Win Over Michigan, Preview NFL Week 1 & More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Welcome in everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Football Saturday Er
Tors Jason Mario broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios.
Second week in a row, Ja Martin, I know you
weren't in last week, but we got four screens full
of football. It's great, man, it is just great. Jaymart

(00:29):
We missed you last week. You almost called into the
show with Arnie Spanier, But talk to me, my man.
How are you? How did you enjoy Week one? How
much of Week one did you get to watch? And
I hope you're doing well.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Most importantly, well, I am still fighting off COVID right now.
I happen to catch that while I was out of town,
and so I watched a decent amount of football from
hotel room sick, and then came back and generally like,
I'm okay, And so it's of being able to walk
around and stuff. My voice hasn't come back, and my

(01:01):
head still feels like it's a thousand pounds. But outside
of that, I have watched a lot of football. I
watched obviously Thursday Nights game, in addition to more of
Week one than maybe I had anticipated going in and
did a couple of recording tricks and went dark on
some notifications and stuff like that, so I could just
kind of watch a few things as well. You know,

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technology allows you to use your cable system to record
stuff and then watch it back on a tablet, so
I was able to watch Ohio State Texas that way,
for instance, and things like that. And then of course
today has just been walled a wall and a couple
of interesting matchups that maybe going in we didn't think
we're gonna end up being this way, but we got
some good stuff out of it. But more than anything,

(01:44):
it's just there's football everywhere, and we're just getting started.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
There is football everywhere, as the SEGA just told you.
Number twelve, Arizona State at Mississippi State. Mississippi State has
taken a lead with thirty seconds to go. Boston College
Michigan State in overtime, and just starting on the West coast,
BYU is in control early against Stanford. The big story too,

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well maybe not the big story today, but the big
game today, Jay Mart, we're under two minutes to go.
I gotta be real, it's kind of exactly what I
thought it was going to look like. But we have
a game in Norman, Oklahoma. Our buddy Chris Plank, I
think his his Oklahoma Sooners are about a minute and
a half away from really a signature victory, if you will,

(02:32):
to start the year. But Michigan Oklahoma was the only
battle of ranked teams excuse me this week. Of course,
we had three top ten matchups in Week one, so
this was the big headliner. Oklahoma up twenty one to thirteen,
under two minutes to go. They're lining up to kick
a field goal, which would make it a eleven point game.

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They just missed a field goal, not that long ago.
But I bring it up because John Mattier, the high
profile transfer, has largely looked the way that we were
promised he would look. He of course transferred in from
Washington State. Bryce Underwood, the star freshman. They really honestly
haven't let him loose. J mart It was funny. I
was talking to our buddy Martin Weis, who's a big

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Michigan fan. I think I don't want to speak for Martin.
I don't know what he said on his previous show.
I was getting ready for this one, but I think
he was a little frustrated that you didn't let Bryce
Underwood a little bit more loose, but Oklahoma has just
kicked a field goal to go up eleven points with
one forty four to go. Martin still in the other
studio with his hand in his head, shaking his head,

(03:37):
very frustrated. But Oklahoma's gonna get the win here, j
Mark barring something shocking. You know, I'll be real, I'm
gonna toss it over to you. It's kind of what
I expected. It's not official yet, but Oklahoma looks like
they're going to get the win at home.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Yeah. I mean, I didn't know what to make of
either one of these two teams overall in terms of
like what they're seiling is. But I expected it would
be a decent football game, and I'm not really surprised
to what we're seeing from Matier in Oklahoma. But to
the Underwood point, I even heard McFarland book McFarland say
at halftime, and I agreed with him, and I imagine

(04:11):
Martin Weiss would as well, that like, why do you
go get Bryce Underwood if you're not gonna let him loose?
Like you should be throwing the football downfield going for
these big chunks. Dudes got an arm that's one of
the reasons that you used him, like go ahead and
unlock him, let him go ahead and do it, Like
what are you waiting for at this point in time?
And you never really saw it, like definitely not in

(04:31):
the first half, maybe a little more in the second,
but even then just kind of it just felt like
he never got out of second gear, like he was
trapped behind a couple of other cars all night long,
couldn't get into clean air. So I don't know, you know,
they're gonna bring him along, and obviously he's young, but
you already see some good stuff out of him. But

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this is a game where you did not give everything
that you had from your side in terms of your
playbook and things like that. You didn't open it up
for him and let him and go and let him
maybe go try and win a football game for you. You
instead just ran the ball a lot. It's like, now
you went and got this quarterback. Man, that's that's the game.

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Like this is the thing. Do the thing. You didn't
do the thing. And it certainly looks like Oklahoma's gonna
take this home win.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Okay, So let me play devil's advocate. First of all,
it was certainly a conservative game plan. By the way,
Michigan's only touchdown score was a seventy five yard run
from Justice Haynes. Outside of that, so they have two
hundred and sixty nine yards of total offense. I'm not
great at math, but that means you take out one
singular play, they have under two hundred yards of total offense. Like,

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so we can all agree Brent Vennables hasn't been maybe
the best head coach, but he's a great defensive mind.
I guess my only argument would be, it was a
one possession game right up until right now. You're on
the road and I listen, I understand, this is the
nil world and guys are getting paid million dollars and

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it's put up or shut up. I just I don't,
I don't know. To me, it was like you were
in the game the whole game. You had it. You know,
you were a stop or two here or there whatever.
Now that I guess now that I'm thinking about it, yes,
you probably had to let him loose a little bit more.
I just to me, like, I don't care how good
he is. I mean, look at how Steve Sarkejian handled

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arch manning a third year player last week at Ohio State.
So I'm not necessarily defending it. And I think the
more that I think about it, you probably had to
let him loose a little bit more.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
Now. Yeah, I don't mean like all night long, but
maybe four or five times. You know, go ahead and
let the kid cook a little bit and see what
he's got me. What are you gonna lose? I mean,
you're gonna lose the game anyway, it's fair, So what
exactly did you accomplish?

Speaker 2 (06:46):
No, I think that's fair. The more that I'm actually
thinking about it, the more Martin Weiss is probably a
little bit more right, then, maybe I gave him credit
for Yeah, he's texting me right now in a fit
of anger. I know, no, like no.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
I think.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
My thought is, I understand it's the nio world. You
also don't want to break his spirits have him throw
three picks on the road against a potentially elite defense.
But I guess now that I'm thinking about it. You know,
up until this final drive, nineteen total pass attempts over
the course of the entire game, and a couple of
them he looked good. I mean there was one play
early where he kind of rolled out right at the

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line of scrimmage, hit a guy in stride. But yeah,
we are now closing in on about a minute to go,
Oklahoma twenty four to thirteen, Michigan driving. We'll get back
to the Michigan side of things in half a second.
Do you want to ask you about Oklahoma though, because
you know, for all the hype about Bryce Underwood the freshman,
there's also a lot of hype about John Mattier, the

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transfer quarterback from Washington State. You know, these two teams,
Jay mart I know you know this, but for the audience,
you know, for people that don't follow college football on
a minute by minute basis kind of pretty identical last year, right,
really good defenses that just had zero quarterback play. And
so Michigan goes with a true freshman. Oklahoma brings John

(08:03):
Mattier from Washington State with his offensive coordinator, and you know,
he was kind of billed as this dual threat guy
that could do it with his arm, do it with
his legs. I gotta give credit where it's due. He
was awesome tonight. Again, there's still about a minute left.
Michigan is trying to put themselves in position to get
back in at Oklahoma up twenty four to thirteen. But

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John Mattier, as things stand, twenty one of thirty four
passing two hundred and seventy yards one passing touchdown, also
seventy four yards to rushing touchdowns as well, So he's
kind of looked the part. And I'll say this again
for the criticism of Brent Ventnables, which I think is justified.
That defense was not a problem last year. It was
the offense. And it looks like the offense is relatively fixed.

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And if the offense is relatively fixed, I think that
changes the calculus on what Oklahoma can be and what
appears to be by the way, because everybody's taking weird
losses in weird performances. Maybe a pretty wide old been
sec overall.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
Yeah, definitely in the middle of that sec, you don't
know what you have. But yeah, I mean, Mattier is
a big guy. He's a strong guy, he's an agile guy.
He's thrown some darts in this game and thrown some
dimes in this game. And this is what you need
to your point. If he is as advertised, Oklahoma's gonna
be a problem for a lot of opponents this year.

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In a way, that we haven't really seen in the
Venables era, and even you know, dating back a little
bit before that, right before Lincoln Riley left, you started
to see kind of the bloom coming off the roads
just a little bit there. But you look at this like,
if you can marry venables defensive scheme to not just
a competent offense, but a threatening offense, a dual threat

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quarterback that knows what he's doing, that also seems to
have a lot of confidence in what he's doing, and
I imagine he's going to make some of these other
guys a little bit better. But you have some dudes
with some chips on their shoulders there that came to
Oklahoma and don't feel like, you know, they've seen that
Oklahoma kind of return on investment that they expected. Like

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a lot of people aren't talking about ou the way
they were five years ago and things like that. So
you look at it now, they have a lot to
play for. Venables obviously has a lot to coach for,
and materiers trying to make a statement and he just
made one against the team that won the national championship
a couple of years ago in one of the most
dominant programs in the history of college football. This is
a big win. Honestly, I know it's against just a

(10:28):
fifteen team, but this feels like a bigger win to
me because I never watched this feeling like Michigan was
going to win it like it just I didn't see it.
There was nothing in what they were doing that seemed
destined for anything, but this eleven point loss that they're
about to take.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yeah, Oklahoma officially takes a knee. Bret Venables and Shroanmore
meeting at midfield Oklahoma against the twenty four to thirteen
win only top twenty five matchup of the day.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
Tell you what.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
It's plenty difficult for Oklahoma going forward. Very tough schedule,
but again in an sec where you know Alabama has
already taken a loss Florida, which we're gonna get to it.
Admit it has already taken a loss Texas. I know
it's a little bit different playing at Ohio State, but
Texas has already taken a loss. LSU, by the way,

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looked great last week. That might be a Clemson thing
more than an LSU thing. I just bring it up
because Oklahoma with John Matteer gets the win. John Matteer,
the high profile transfer from Washington State, was everything every
Oklahoma fan could have hoped for. Two hundred and seventy
yards passing, seventy four yards rushing, three total touchdowns. Oklahoma

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gets the win. Michigan falls to one in one and
to the point that j Martin made, to the point
that Martin Weiss made on the previous show, Bryce Underwood
only nineteen pass attempts until the final drive finishes nine
of twenty four passing. I don't think that's a reflection
of him. It was just they really didn't let him lose.

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So tell you what, Michigan gets the loss. They have
plenty of time to bounce back. But to me, I'll
just beak real quick on this, j Mark, because I
want to get some other stuff from a busy day
in college football. Let me ask you this more about
impressive win for Oklahoma or more concerning situation for Michigan.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
I don't want to overreact to it. I think it's
I think I'm just gonna give Oklahoma the credit again
because a large part of our point this segment has
been I don't feel like we saw what Bryce Underwood
is capable of in this game. It's not like, Oh,
this is what he's gonna be. No, I don't think
that at all. I think that obviously he's young, and
so it's going to be some ups and some downs

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and peaks and some valleys. But at the same time,
I just feel like this was incredibly conservative in Vanilla
in many ways, and so we're going to see a
much better Michigan team at some point this season. But
I think this is more about a great game plan
for Oklahoma. The offense is firing on all cylinders. In
Venables is really dealing with his defense right now.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
Oklahoma, it's to win in the only Top twenty five
matchup today, Oklahoma at Temple next week. I yelled at
Chris Plank about that one about a month ago when
I saw that on the schedule, said, how do you
have Temple on the road. He's like, Oh, we got
a lot of we got a lot of alums in
the Northeast. I'm like, you can't be playing Temple on
the road. But that is who they played next, and
then they open with Auburn the week after that in

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SEC play Michigan Central Michigan next week. Then they go
to Nebraska, which had a nice win today to improve
to two and zero. Fox Sports Radio Eric Torris Jason
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college football on the way. We may be celebrating Oklahoma.
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j Mart, So the big one is in the books.
Oklahoma gets the eleven point win over the Michigan Wolverines.

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Oklahoma and proofs to two and oh Michigan falls to
one and one. Want to get to some other storylines
in the world to college football. I'll tell you what, Jmart.
I'm gonna save Florida for half a second because we
just had a final in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, and I want
your opinion. Alabama takes care of business against u El Monroe.

(15:36):
Uel Monroe got Nick Saban a few years ago.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
Mighty Warhawks.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
They weren't mighty today, No, they were not. Alabama wins
seventy three to nothing, very simple question, Jmark for you.
We all know by the way Alabama lost last week
at Florida State. Want to give a little context. Florida
State today put up seventy points of its own admittedly

(16:03):
against something called East Texas A and M. They won
seventy seven to three. But I bring it up possible
that Florida State might be good doesn't change the fact
that Alabama lost to him on the road. Kalyn de
Boor's fourth loss at the time in fourteen games as
Alabama's head coach against an unranked opponent. Does a seventy
three to nothing win over UL Monroe do anything to

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change your opinion on the Alabama Crimson type Nope?

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Next question, Now, look, they can only do what they
did today, right, I mean, yeah, they could have scored eighty,
but they could only play The only thing that they
were going to be able to do was play the
next team on their schedule. Unfortunately for them, it was
one where no one was going to care what the
result was unless it was catastrophic like they couldn't Here's

(16:56):
what they couldn't do. They couldn't barely eke out a
win against ul or lose the game. Obviously, but the
thing was there was no way they could win, right, Like,
if they win seventy eight thousand to nothing, then everybody's
just gonna say what I'm saying right now, which is, yeah,
do it against somebody that matters after what happened last week?

(17:16):
Who really cares? Like who didn't see them blowing out
ULM in this game even without Ryan Williams, Like it
wasn't going to matter. But no, it doesn't change anything
because this is a game that by and large was
forgotten the second it was over. It wasn't even a
stay of execution. It's just it's almost like there's been

(17:38):
holding patterns since they lost to Florida State, except for
Alabama fans who are calling for Calen du Bor's job already.
But outside of that, like until they play their next
game of consequence, it's basically as if none of this
is happening, it might as well be exhibition football.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yeah, so I agree with the one hundred percent. I'm
not gonna I'll just be real. I know you weren't
available last week, you weren't here. I'm worried about Bama
and I'm just sorry. I've seen the same situation over
and over and over again. And it's not that they
don't have big wins in the debor era, it's the

(18:16):
consistency and it's the not showing up in spots where
they need to show up, right. So it's like, maybe
Florida State's just incredible, right, but again, you lost last
year to a six and seven Oklahoma team, You lost
last year to Vanderbilt, You lost last year to a
Michigan team that could not complete a forward pass, and
so like, it's great that you did this to you,
al Monroe, but like, I'll just say this about Alabama,

(18:38):
it's gonna sound crazy, like even if they beat Georgia,
they played Georgia three weeks from now, so they play
Wisconsin next week, then they have a bye, then they
played Georgia in the SEC opener. I don't even know
that my opinion would change if they beat Georgia because
we have seen them just not show up and play
down to competition. So one, obviously, you know, I don't
think people expect them to be george at least not

(19:00):
right now. But you need a good showing. But to me,
it's kind of the Vandy Missouri, those kind of games
that I think are going to define like, I don't
think their season is defined one way or the other
by do they beat or lose to Georgia. Certainly, if
they beat Georgia, that's a great sign. But again, I've
just seen them even in these fifteen games that the

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bar has been there, just the inconsistency has just been
been through the roof. So I don't know, I'm just
rambling at this point. It doesn't change the fact that
in my opinion, I'm with you. I don't think anything changes.
I think, obviously the first opportunity that they'll have to
really change perception they play Wisconsin next week in a

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noon eastern eleven am kickoff, and then from there they
do have They do have Georgia in a couple weeks
really quickly. Arch Manning nineteen to thirty, passing four touchdowns.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
Today in five minutes?

Speaker 2 (19:58):
In five minutes? Did that change anything that you and
by the way, you weren't in last week. So I'll
ask you your perception on what you saw in Columbus
and then also what you saw today and what you
think of arch Manning based on those two performances plus
the limited availability that he had last year.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
I mean, it's impossible to say anything other than for
three quarters, that was pretty rough for arch Manning. Last week,
Now it was against Ohio State in the Horseshoe. That
was not going to make it an easy scenario for him. Nonetheless,
I did see flashes in that fourth quarter though, Like
the fourth quarter gave you some hope. If you're a
Texas fan, then okay, all right, that's starting to look

(20:39):
a little bit more like it. And then of course
he comes out and he does what he did today.
But yeah, to last week, I mean, last week wasn't good.
I mean there's not really a way to sugarcoat that
or make it or diminish it in any way. It
was a tough It was a tough ask and he
wasn't up to that challenge for three quarters of that game.
And I think Ohio State had an excellent defense called

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there all day. Their scheme, they just had him flumbingsuse.
He was completely uncomfortable pretty much the entire game and
they just had him on the run like nothing looked good.
And I don't think Starkesian helped him out very much either,
Like I don't think that the play calling was particularly
stellar during that game either. So yeah, it was a
rough week. I mean, I don't imagine I'm saying anything

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you didn't say last week.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Yeah, I was a little bit underwhelmed, and I wasn't
somebody with Arch that necessarily felt like you and I
had the conversation. You know, where I stood on him
is I thought there was a world where maybe he
is the next generational quarterback, but I needed to see
it before I just you know, made a proclamation such as,
I don't know, he'll be the best college football player

(21:46):
since Tim Tebow. So I wasn't really surprised because I
still go back to if he was that good, he
would have beat out quinn Ewers last year. And oh,
by the way, you and I were on air, because
you and I were the only people that remember this,
probably because we were on air, he got put in
in the first Georgia game and look like a here

(22:07):
in headlights because I remember us talking about like weird
move from Sark that felt desperate and then he never
put anyway. So I wasn't expecting like huge things from Arch.
But I am worried. But you know, again, it's amazing
how how how different a week can make you feel
in college football. Because I sat there and said, well,

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wait a second. Now you lose on the road to
Ohio State, you look overwhelmed. You still got to go
at Georgia and oh you got this tough game in
a couple of weeks at the Swamp against Florida. So
I'll tell you what I'll tell you. This's what we'll do. Well,
we'll get it over to Sager because he's got to
get us updated on everything.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
He needs about the Chargers.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Sure, yeah, and then we'll talk. Well, you know, you
know who's not gloating anyone that related to the Florida
Gators right now? But to Seger, uh, did you take
the private jet back from Brazil to get here this
after this evening?

Speaker 6 (23:02):
No said jet and no gloating on week one. I
think that should be a lesson for us. All fifteen to.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Two they were last day? Yeah, what were thirteen straight
one score games until they ranted a Jim harbon co.

Speaker 6 (23:13):
And of course the Chiefs had beaten Charger's seven straight times.
Had to head there is that. I saw a stat
that in the last sixty games that the Chiefs have
played against the AFC West, fifty one to nine was
the record against the division until last night's opener. We
do have college football to update because there is a

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ranked team still playing because at tenth ranked South Carolina
there was a lightning delay at the start. So right
now they're approaching mid third quarter. South Carolina leads twenty
four to three over South Carolina State. It's looking like
UNLV coach Dan Mullins going to three and zero on
the season at home, although UCLA has scored. UNLV's lead
now thirty to twenty over the Bruins mid fourth.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Thirty to twenty six. Oh, it's just a pick six.

Speaker 6 (24:02):
It looks like they're reviewing. Was the quarterback down before?

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Yeah, you're right, so was he though, let's not.

Speaker 6 (24:08):
Put that on the board just yet, but you're correct.
Stand by. Meanwhile, in Arnie's honor, the University of Arizona
might be the late game in college football tonight, not
the Hawaii game. Arizona has yet to begin. They're due
to host Weaver State. However, the last couple hours at
the start, they've been in a weather delay. Finally, the

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gates are open and fans can re enter Arizona Stadium
and they are expecting kickoff maybe a half hour after
warm ups. Of course, we're familiar with this. After the
Eagles opener on Thursday and Washington State, it's the Cougar's
over San Diego State early second quarter, ten to seven
at BYU, those Cougars leading Stanford fourteen nothing five minutes

(24:54):
to go in the second. Washington already out to a
fourteen nothing lead on UC Davis. In the first game
at Hawaii, the home team hosting Sam Houston update UNLV
thirty to twenty over the Bruins eight minutes to go.
It was ruled not apick six and we did break
for the absolutely it was. Mississippi State won a thriller

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a long touchdown with thirty seconds left, beat twelfth ranked
Arizona State twenty four to twenty, and Mississippi State had
blown a seventeen to zing lead at home in that one.
South Florida wins at number thirteen Florida eighteen sixteen over
the Gators on a short field goal on the final play.
Oklahoma beat Michigan in the top twenty matchup tonight twenty
four to thirteen. At sixteenth ranked Iowa State, Cyclones edged

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rival Iowa sixteen to thirteen on a fifty four yard
field goal with under two minutes left. Baylor won in
double overtime at number seventeen SMU forty eight to forty five.
North Carolina a winner tonight at Charlotte's twenty to three.
Vanderbilt won forty four to twenty at Virginia Tech, dominating
the second half. The game at Michigan State had ended

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in double overtime. Spartans beat BC forty two forty in
two ots. Minnesota won sixty six nothing over Northwestern State,
and by third quarter they had run out of fireworks
to celebrate touchdowns. No kidding, they put an announcement up
on the board. Also, it was Nebraska sixty eight nothing

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over Akron, USC one fifty nine to twenty against Georgia.
Southern Oregons went at home against Oklahoma State was sixty
nine to three. Yes, there were plenty of blowouts, including
in the top ten, not just the Oregon game. Texas Miami,
number one, Ohio State be Grambling seventy to nothing. Eighth
rank Clemson was down sixteen nothing before half but beat

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Troy twenty seven sixteen. And guys, there were two amazing
ninth innings in Major League Baseball.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
First off, if you're a Dodgers fan, that.

Speaker 6 (26:51):
Is most correct. San Francisco had won eleven of twelve.
There were only four games out of the last ANL
Wildcard Giants gave up three in the bottom of the
ninth t lose three to two At Saint Louis. Baltimore
won its fifth in a row, beating the Dodgers four
to three with four runs in the bottom of the ninth.
As if that would be enough for a story, No, no,

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The Dodgers have now lost five in a row because
in this game, LA starter Yoshinobu Yamamoto had a no
hitter until two outs in the bottom of the ninth
and he allows a solo homer to Jackson Holiday and
comes out gets a huge ovation one hundred and twelve
pitches thrown, ten strikeouts, two walks. Tonight, the Dodger bullpen

(27:33):
two different pitchers could not get the final out four
runs in the ninth, four to three Baltimore. The final
Tanner Scott of LA with his ninth blown save, which
is tied for the league, lead back to you.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Thank you very much, Steve Disager. Fox Sports Radio, Fox
Sports Saturday Air Tours, Jason Martin broadcasting live from the
Fox Sports Radio studios. Do want to get to one
quick piece of news, then we'll get to some updated
CFB stuff. This just coming from Jordan Schultz, Fox Sports Insider.
Lions and star Jamison Williams have agreed to a three year,

(28:09):
eighty three million dollar extension, sixty seven million guaranteed. Obviously,
as Jordan Schultz notes, Aiden Hutchinson is also up for
the extension, But Jamison Williams, I don't know if you
have any strong Jamison Williams takes j mart but figured
I would throw that in there as we head into

(28:30):
week one. Jamison Williams gets paid.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
No, I mean not really. He's a solid young player
that you know. He made a mistake. We already know
about that, and he dealt with a pretty severe injury
coming out Obama. But I mean you really look at
his production and what he can do with that offense,
especially with att Monross Saint Brown taking up a good
bit of the attention, he really becomes a big time threat.

(28:55):
And also he actually makes it so you can't focus
completely on a Monra. You have to respect Jameis and
Williams out there as well, which also gives Gibbs, you know,
some room to run and things like that, So I mean,
I think he's a definite. It makes makes good sense.
Nothing like waiting until you know, the eve of the
season to get that done. Maybe juice him up right

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before Week one.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Well, certainly an interesting week one as the Lions go
to Green Bay. Of course, Green Bay has its own
interesting development over the last week or so. We'll previ
you that game later in the show. But Jamison Williams
does sign a three year extension eighty three million, including
sixty seven guaranteed per Jordan Schultz, just a day before

(29:36):
they open the season against the Green Bay Packers. Fox
Sports Radio Aeron Tors Jason Martin broadcasting live for the
Fox Sports Radio Studios. We will come back, and when
we do, we will get to the game. Reference Top
twenty Florida. It felt like things were gonna be different.
Instead they're very much the same, and you gotta wonder
what the future billion apier is. This is Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (30:01):

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio. Ra Torres Jason Martin
broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios with a
couple of late games BYU up fourteen to nothing on
Stanford A couple minutes before the first half ends. Interesting
score in Vegas. UNLV up thirty to twenty three. UNLV

(30:26):
was up twenty three to nothing on UCLA. Of course,
the noteworthy thing here j Mart UCLA's quarterback, who, in
his defense, is not playing poorly today, but guy that
was starting in a college football playoff game eight months
ago is now trailing UNLV thirty to twenty three with

(30:49):
three thirty nine left. UNLV just picked up a first
down UCLA trying to get the ball back. Do you
do you have any Nico thoughts before we move on
to Florida.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
I mean good on him that he started to play
a little bit better here, especially in the second half
of this game, But he went to a team with
a coach that's probably not going to survive for a
lot of a ton of talent. Like, he went to
a much worse situation. He didn't get the money that

(31:20):
he thought he was going to get, his reputations in
tatters because his comments don't pass the smell test and
actually just factually or inaccurate, like the whole I just
wanted to go home when he was, you know, talking
to Miami or trying to get Miami in ole Miss
and he's other schools interested and all this other kind
of stuff, like none of it has worked out. He
listened to people and his family that told him that

(31:42):
he needed to go out and get his and instead
of taking what I think was still a really solid
offer from Tennessee to play in the SEC for an
incredible fan base, a university that's on the rise across
the board in athletics with a young coach and Josh Heipel,
that doesn't seem like he wants to go, and he like,
you had everything right there, a good NIL deal as well,

(32:05):
good collective aspire that set up out there. Everything is rolling,
and you end up at UCLA and a middle of
the road team at best that's not going to be
talked about in four weeks from right now, and you
didn't get the money. Like it's just awful. Like I
feel terrible for him, but I do wish he had
not said that second thing out loud about how he

(32:27):
just did it to go home, because that made it
even worse, Like even if he was just trying to
find a way out at that point, just just don't
say anything, man. Just all he can do now is
go play the best football that he can. And I
do feel bad because I don't think that he made
this decision. Not only did I do, I not think
he made it unilaterally. I think he was like almost
told this is what you're gonna do, and he listened,

(32:49):
and hopefully it'll be the last time. It's a harsh
learning experience for him.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
Yeah, So two quick thoughts on that one. Well, first
of all three thoughts. One, unlv is trying to give
them this game. They got a first down, they immediately
passed twice. When UCLA would have had to use two
timeouts instead they passed twice. They're giving the ball back
two minutes to go. UCLA has the two timeouts, plus

(33:14):
remember now college football has a two minute warning, so
UCLA basically has three timeouts to go length of the field.
All I'll add feel bad because I agree it was
the dad. It was bad advice. And then the only
thing I would disagree with, you said, a team that
won't be talked about in four weeks if you keep losing. Unfortunately,
they're going to keep talking about you, and that's the

(33:35):
part that sucks. But he's playing well, so we'll give
him a little bit of a pass tonight. We'll see
if he can get UCLA either to tie this up
or to take the lead again. UCLA trailing UNLV thirty
to twenty three, two nineteen left. They still got plenty
of time two timeouts as well. They were trailing twenty

(33:56):
three to nothing in this game, all right, j Mart
be teasing for about forty minutes.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
Now.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Florida Gators, So Florida came into today rank thirteenth in
the country, seventeen and a half point favorite against South Florida.
South Florida. To their credit, they did have that incredible
win over Boise State in week one. But you kind
of sat there and said, okay, well, how good are
they really? You know, Boise turned the ball over a
bunch whatever. South Florida goes to Gainesville and gets the win.

(34:26):
And I'll just be quick because I don't want to
bog this down with too many facts and details, but
just give you some quick perspective. Florida got the ball
back with about they were up, keep in mind, sixteen
to fifteen. They get the ball back with let's see here,
two forty nine left. They run two pass plays, take

(34:47):
off a grand total of fourteen second twenty four seconds
off the clock in the final possession. There is a
penalty for spitting on a play.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
Yeah, I don't even I don't.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Literally, I'm sorry. It was the number one trending story
in sports. Dumbest penalty on planet Earth. Okay, so the
kid gets thrown out fifteen yard penalty. Billy and Napier
completely mismanages his timeouts and then, oh, by the way, Jmart,
Florida USF gets in field goal range. They're running the
ball up the middle. You're up by one. You had

(35:27):
a chance to just let them score and get if
you're not gonna use your timeouts, at least get the
ball back. They don't get the ball back. They let
the clock run down to three seconds. South Florida kicks
a game winning field goal eighteen to sixteen. South Florida wins.
The Florida Gators lose. By the way, here are their
next four games at LSU next week, at Miami Texas,

(35:49):
at home at Texas A and m I mean, just
a train wreck. I've talked too long, Jmart, give us
your Florida thoughts.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
I just I'm baffled by this game, Like, just what
in the world are you doing If you're Florida in
this game, like and especially like the way you talked
about how it ended. It's just like first off, after
what happened to Joe and Carter and everything that went
down that the whole country saw by the way, like

(36:19):
we all saw that he better be really good or
he should be off the team. Like just the stupidest
possible thing you could do is to give a fifteen
yard penalty there when you had them fairly deep. Basically
gave the confidence because I think it was a second
down play at least second maybe even a third down play.
You gave them the automatic first down and put them,

(36:39):
you know, well away from their own end zone, shortened
the field for them, gave them the confidence, and then
they had a breaking the run. But I think the
biggest thing is not just to spitting the play that
broke it open there in that last drive for South
Florida was a run play where it looked like Florida
missed like seventeen tackles. That's what Florida can't do. That's

(37:01):
what the Big Florida, the Big Florida, that's what Florida
can't do against South Florida. That's what South Florida is
supposed to do against Florida, even if they have the lead,
they're the ones that they are supposed to miss the
tackles and find a way to lose that game. That
can't happen in your own building. Just they muscled and

(37:22):
looking at him like they were better on the offensive
and defensive line. South Florida looked like they were the aggressors.
But if you're Florida and you come back in that
game and take the lead sixteen to fifteen, you can't
lose that game. You cannot do it. So I'm not
saying Billy Napier is out of a job before we're
off the air tonight, but this right here, like you're

(37:46):
always trying to create a paper trail when you're gonna
do something, This one's a big part of the paper trail.
Like even if he were to lose his job tomorrow,
wouldn't be shocked. I think to buy out somewhere around
twenty million, so I don't think it would happen. But
this just sets the stage. This is the kind of
game that when you are entering the season already on
a bit of a hot seat, you absolutely cannot drop

(38:08):
a game like this and it's to an end state team.
Maybe South Florida is good, like they beat Poise, held
him to seven points, and then Boise annihilated somebody this week.
Then you had Florida. Florida's out here kicking field goals
all game long. Lagway doesn't look real good. Maybe South
Florida's got a really solid defense like that could be possible.

(38:28):
Maybe they got you know, maybe Alex Goldish is really
getting the job done as head coach as well. But
at the same time, you're the University of Florida. You
can't do this. Billy Napier's record there is what twenty
and twenty like, it's not good like this is. And
I don't have anything against Billy Napier. I just think
that there's no possible way he keeps that job.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Now, well, I'll give you a stat This is kind
of mind boggling. So on top of just losing to
an in state opponent that you just can't lose to.
For people, I think if you're listening to sports talk
radio at a eleven fifty three Eastern time, you understand.
But this would be like Michigan losing the Eastern Michigan.
You just can't do it like you just can't. But
how about this, This is kind of an incredible stat

(39:09):
They have ten games left on their schedule currently. Of
those ten opponents, eight of the ten are ranked in
the top twenty five right now. And oh, by the way,
one of the teams that isn't ranked in the top
twenty five is Mississippi State, which just knocked off the
top fifteen teams. So I mean, it's just it's it's

(39:29):
everything that you said, is that you know. And by
the way, one of the few guys that I've ever
seen that felt like was on the hot seat and
coached his way off of it. With the way they
ended last year, for people to forget beating LSU, beating
Ole Miss, knocking Old Miss out of the playoff, destroying
Florida State, I think they ended the season on a
five game winning streak. But to come into this year

(39:50):
knowing how tough the schedule is, eight ranked opponents on
the schedule, by the way, a couple teams that we
thought maybe they're gonna take a step back. Florida State,
they look good. Tennessee. He doesn't look like they're missing
a beat. Miami Mario cra My, Marcus Ball got the win.
So just a really, really, really bad situation for the
Florida Gators.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
At the same time, I'm really interested to see Miami
in South Florida next week.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
It's gonna be interesting. By the way, Florida goes to LSU.
So that's a seven thirty Eastern start time. Good luck
on that. By the way, next week's college football slate
is insane. Georgia, Tennessee, Texas, A and m Notre Dame
and Florida LSU are the headliners. Fox Sports Radio Air Tours.
Jason Martin broacasting lat for the Fox Sports radiers. Jos,
we'll come back, turn our attention to the NFL, Kansas

(40:36):
City Chiefs, Dynasty Dunn. Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (40:40):

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Welcome in everybody, Hour two Tours Martin, Fox Sports Radio.
We are broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.
It is so great. Ah, it is midnight Eastern. We
still got three games that are live. Plus that UCLA
UNLV game just went final as UNLV beats UCLA thirty

(41:07):
to twenty three. We're gonna switch gears to the NFL
in half a second. But jaymart we did get a
little piece of interesting audio in the last probably about
ten minutes that I want to share one North Carolina
tar Heels we all watch Monday Night. It was a
train wreck, and really the whole thing's been kind of

(41:29):
a train wreck. And then late in the week we
got the story that the New England Patriots have essentially
been barred from North Carolina's facility. Scouts are not allowed.
We know the history with Bill Belichick and the North
Bill Belichick and the New England Patriots. Excuse me bring
it up, because Belichick's second game as a college head
coach was this evening. The North Carolina tar Heels do

(41:51):
get a twenty to three win over the Charlotte forty
nine ers. After the game, he was asked about the
story of the Patriots being barred from the North Carolina facility.
Mary Mack played the.

Speaker 7 (42:05):
Sound, Yeah, well, no, it's clear that I'm not welcomed
there around their facility, and so they're I'm welcome in ours.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
Pretty simple, Bill Belichick, North Carolina is not welcoming the
New England Patriots because the New England Patriots are not
welcoming Bill Belichick. I got text j Mark, but I'll
give you the four first.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
So the first one is this, you're just not worried
about anything that has to do with the football team.
It's all this like petty, spiteful, immature, just all of
this reads poorly. But even worse than that to me
is this, Let's say I'm a recruit and I'm thinking

(42:47):
about going to play for Bill or going somewhere else.
You're telling me that because there is some spiteful past
relationship that went south at the end, there's one team
that's not going to get a chance to come see
me at practice. And so that's one other team that's
not going to have all the information in the intel,

(43:09):
and so I have a much lower chance of going
to that organization than I would others. And I understand
that there's still plenty of others that would draft me
if I was good enough, But at the same time, like,
why wouldn't I want them all to see me? Like
that's just one other little thing. It's like Bill, it
can't just be about you. At this point, it feels

(43:33):
like it's all about Bill. This whole thing is like
I want to come back and prove how good I was.
I want to come back with a twenty seven year
old girlfriend who never stops talking. Apparently I want to
do all these things in the offseason. I want to
do all of this. It's like, dude, why couldn't you
just stay on TV? Like you were fun on TV?
This bill is everything everybody always criticized you for, and

(43:58):
now you're just well, I'm not welcome, so they're not welcome.
It's like, dude, what are we five? Like, what are
we doing? Are we running a major college football program?
Or are we engaging in mean girls nonsense like this
right here? Ain't gonna get it done? And good for
you beating Charlotte twenty to three. This I was afraid

(44:20):
this was going to be an utter disaster and that
was just like all right, and you said it and
you were right, Like the schedule should be pretty manageable,
so this may not look as bad and all these
other kinds of things. I'm starting to think it's going
to be even worse than bad, Like because none of
this has anything to do with these young men that
he's going to be coaching, that they are being compensated

(44:41):
at this point, yes, I understand that, but like this
seems to all be about Belichick's ego and his pride
and that's look, dude, that's that is not going to
get it done. I at this point, it's almost like
you almost want to see Bill Belichick fail because he's
given you no reason to root for him.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
Yeah, because I basically every sentiment you had is essentially
what I feel. The same is, you know, I just
you know whatever, well, and whatever we think about college
basket or college football, it's supposed to be about the players, right,
I mean, and I'm not saying it in the perspective
of like you have to bend over backwards and whatever whatever,
but it's like the end game for all of them

(45:22):
is the NFL. And to your point, there's only thirty
two teams, and you're cutting their opportunity to be seen
or whatever by one out of thirty two. And that's
one out of thirty two too many, you know, And
I think that's the only thing. And then I just think,
to a broader perspective, what it says to me is

(45:42):
exactly what you just said, which is that everything's on
everything is on his terms. It's about what's best for him.
It's about making sure his son is the coach in waiting,
making sure his girlfriend has a you know whatever, the
heck that she's doing. I'm not even be a critical,
just a fact I don't know what the heck she's doing.

(46:02):
You know a bunch of former guys that are they
really the best guy for the job in whatever role
that they're in, or are they buddies? Are they family?
Are they friends of family, are they whatever? And now
you had this and again it's just it's it's not
about what it's supposed to be about. And yeah, I

(46:23):
just I just think it's it's a bad deal overall.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
So yeah, I mean, look, it's just like obviously he
gets asked a question and it's true, but it's just
you really banned them from the facility because of some
beef that you have with you or like, dude, you
have to move on. Obviously there were gonna be some
hurt feelings there and it may have soured at the end.

(46:46):
And the Brady thing and how he went and had
success in Tampa Bay, I understand it. Just last few
years in New England probably weren't all that great. But
you can't be this small because this doesn't breed like
you have a ton of power. It reads like you
have a complex. It reads like you right now feel
like they feel like the desperate party. Bill Belichick feels

(47:09):
like the desperate party here. So it's him and Freddie
Kitchens and all these dudes that were NFL coaches, and
somehow that's supposed to be impressive in this day and age,
when it really isn't. I just I don't like anything
that I am seeing coming out of that program whatsoever.
Right now?

Speaker 2 (47:26):
All right, I'll be honest. You know what I didn't
like to see. Well, it's not that I didn't like
to see it, but I didn't like what I saw.
I'll be real. Didn't like what I saw from the
Kansas City Chiefs on Friday night in Brazil. Don't want
to overreact. It's just one game. You certainly want to
give the Chargers credit. But Xavier Worthy gets banged up,

(47:47):
she Rice is suspended, and I watched that game. J Martin,
I'll tell you ten penalties on the Kansas City Chiefs
receivers that can't separate Travis kelce is Old defense really
didn't have an answer for Patrick for Justin Herbert, excuse me.
I know we're supposed to celebrate the winner, and I

(48:09):
know we're supposed to give the Chargers credit. We mentioned
it earlier with the Sega What was it a thirteen
game winning streak something like that against in one score games.
What was your takeaway from Friday night in Brazil, because
I know we've been waiting on the Chiefs downfall. To me,
I'll just be real to be quick, this was an
extension of the Super Bowl to me, where every position

(48:29):
other than when number fifteen has the and fifteen is incredible,
we get it. But I'm just bringing it up because
fifteen had to pull a lot out of his you
know what, just to make it a twenty seven to
twenty one game. And I don't think this is a
one off deal. And I don't think the Chargers or
are this incredible team significantly better than we thought. I

(48:50):
was largely underwhelmed by what I saw on Friday night.
What about you?

Speaker 3 (48:53):
Yeah, I mean it'd be hard not to be. It
kind of feels like it sounds to say this, and
what you're saying about fifteen is totally accurate, But this
team just kind of feels like the television series that's
gone on a little too long, and like you, still
some people still watch, but some of the audience has

(49:15):
moved on because they've run out of storylines. There's just
not that much left there. It's like the movie franchise
to put out one too many movies. In that last one,
you were like, all right, now they're really done.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
Now we got to talk about Home Alone three? Like that, man,
come on, Well.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
Mcaulay Culkin came out and said that Home Alone two
is better than the original Home Alone. That's like, dude,
you were in them both, but that is blasphemy.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
That's a good embrace debate for December. We'll save that
one for a few months now, and we don't have
as much college football that yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
Absolutely, But to that point, like it's just this Chiefs
team you mentioned it like they looked old, they looked
a little slow. They didn't look like they had dynamic playmakers,
like the days of Tyrek Hill are over and you
don't have Xavier Worthy out there. It really showed. Now,
maybe that would have made a tremendous difference. But the

(50:05):
biggest thing that I saw was the back end of
that defense was atrocious. They were terrible in that game.
I don't know, Spagnolo didn't dial up the right stuff
here and there, but I understand how good justin Herbert is,
but it's really easy to look good when you're throwing
the dudes that have a ten yard cushion in all directions. Like,

(50:28):
guys were wide open all night long. And I mean
herbert'sr Really this was kind of the coming out party
for Justin Herbert, for those that really wanted to see
some kind of a big time performance in a moment
where everybody was watching him. I mean, he was phenomenal
in the game, and no question about that. Not trying
to take that away from him, I'm just saying he
took advantage of a defense that looked like they had

(50:50):
absolutely zero clue what they were doing. They were lost
that it was just a terrible, just an absolutely terrible performance.
But I look at that and I'm just like this
Chiefs team that I'm looking at just from a skill perspective,
I don't think Pacheco or Hunt or dynamic running backs
at this stage. I just don't see it. And you

(51:12):
mentioned Kelsey and all this other stuff, like you're telling
me that that team right there is going to knock
off the Bills and the Ravens and maybe even the
Chargers and a couple of other teams potentially as well. Like,
I don't see it like this Chiefs team looks long
in the tooth. Again, this looks like that seventh season
of a show that really didn't need to go past five,

(51:32):
And so the sixth season you started to see a
decline there, and guess what, they got beaten the Super Bowl.
And then they come back for one final year and
then you really see that, you really see what they
don't have anymore. It happens to everybody eventually. But I
just look at this Chiefs team, and I understand it's
one game. You don't want to be presoner of the moment,
But I looked at that and I was just like,

(51:53):
this doesn't feel like an aberration. This just feels like
not a particularly strong football team this year.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Yeah, And I mean again, I think it goes back
to you know, last year, all those one score games
and all the different ways that they found ways to win.
And again, to me, it just goes back to the
Super Bowl of you know, every single spot on the
field they just looked old and slow and whatever. And

(52:22):
it's the exact same thing to me right now. I
just I don't, you know, again, I don't think this
is the free fall eight and nine missed the playoffs
or anything like that. But I mean, just look at
it like this, Philly, Baltimore, Detroit. Now they get them
all at home. But that's all in the next five weeks,

(52:43):
you know, Like Philly, I do, And we're gonna talk
about Philly in the next segment because they were far
from perfect on Thursday night. But again Philly with the
you know, we'll see, will see what happens with Jayleen
Carter obviously, but like you know, Philly, I don't know.
I still think again, you look at what they can
do it pretty much every spot on the field. I
don't think it's a good matchup for them, Lamar, don't

(53:05):
think it's a good matchup the Lions. We'll see what
they look like here in Week one against Green Bay
and what they're gonna look like going for I don't know.
The only point I'm trying to make is I was
a little bit underwhelmed really quickly Chargers again. To me,
my big takeaway was more on the k C side,
But you know, you do have to give the Chargers credit.
And I think the other thing too with the Chargers,

(53:26):
which interesting, of course, like losing your starting left tackle
for Sean Slater and looking the way that you did. Now,
I know that Joelt was basically a career left tackle
in college and is capable of doing the job. But again,
they finished with almost four hundred yards of total offense,
justin Herbert had all sorts of time in the pocket.

(53:49):
Chargers were impressive, and again I still think the bigger
story is the Chiefs. But to me, you know, you
gotta feel good if you're a Chargers fan. Obviously, yeah, you.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
Try not to overreact to Week one. A lot of
weird things can happen in week one. Plus, you got
a division game. I heard Dan Patrick say this. He
was right, you got a division game. We're in Brazil
to open the season in an AFC West Divisional round
or divisional matchup. Like, I understand you're trying to grow
the game, but don't love that being the choice. But

(54:20):
at the same time, like this feels like a Chargers
team that can win that division. It really does. And
we'll see what Denver has got Denver places to see tomorrow.
But Denver's gonna be in that mix as well. I
still don't think the Raiders will be there, even if
gent is good. I just don't think they have quite enough.
But this this whole, like the AFC West, let's go
ahead and rubber stamp it for Kansas City. I'm already

(54:44):
feeling like, yeah, that that might be a bridge too far,
even if we did it going into the going into
the season, even if I did it my preseason predictions
that of course it's the Chiefs. They're going to find
a way like I maybe they are. If they do,
it's gonna be because of Mahomes and Andy Reid. But
I just there were a whole lot of flaws that

(55:04):
seemed very exposed to me, and they were not just like, oh,
this is a week to week fix. This looked like
this roster just doesn't impress me. Doesn't mean if there's
nobody on it. Obviously you've still got Chris Jones, You've
got Karlovtus, You've got some guys, but everybody's got some guys.
Some of these teams are going to be seeing, especially

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inside that conference, have a lot of guys, and I
just don't see how the Chiefs match up there.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Be very interesting the Chiefs, as I mentioned, head home,
things get so much easier with the defending Super Bowl champs,
the Philadelphia Eagles, the Chargers. You talk about a division game.
They play the Raiders in week two.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
In Denver, in week three. Their first three weeks I
think are all you're right division games, correct.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
Yeah, So they'll play the Raiders on Monday night and
then quick turnaround, they'll play the Broncos in Los Angeles
in week three. Fox Sports Radio Air towards Jason Martin
pardcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. We'll come back.
We'll talk about the big one on Thursday night again.
Was the story of the Eagles? Was the story of
the Cowboys? Maybe not as terrible as everybody, including I

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think the two of us j mart thought they would be.
We'll discuss that next. Fox Sports Radio Welcome back, everybody.
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Speaker 3 (56:52):
Part I promise you Arnie Spanner can take it when
you tell them that they're the worst takes.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't even know if Arnie
knows how to use YouTube, so I think that's probably uh,
not even a concern. I think he just got the
internet in Vermont like a week and a half ago.
So yeah, Arnie, by the way, had fun with Arnie
last week. Do miss you not to say that. I'm
you know, I was happy that you were gone on
week one, But Arnie did good, man, Arnie did good.

(57:17):
So anyway, what was the worst take?

Speaker 3 (57:20):
We always that you always asked me, So what was
the take that broke you last week? Or did he
have one?

Speaker 2 (57:24):
I don't real that he really had one. We did
have Ryan Fowler on, Yeah, and he just kind of
made it a priority to let Ryan Fowler know that
Nick Saban will be coaching Alabama again at some point
in the future. Like Ryan, well, he's like before, you know,
before Ryan, I think even was asked a question or
answered the question, Hey, you know who's gonna be you

(57:46):
know who's gonna replace Kayla the bar right, and and
Ryan's exact answer was like, you know, it's been a
tough day. We really haven't had time to really think
that much about it. And uh, yeah, Saban's gonna come back.
He's gotta come back. He's coming back. And and Ryan
was just like, Okay, I thought, yeah, I thought, it's
a tough enough night without you taking the conversation directly

(58:08):
in that direction. So I think, in hindsight, that had
to be his worst one. I can't I'm trying to
remember if anything else stood out, I just remember him.
You know, here's the thing, a little inside baseball on
on how radio is done. Usually, when a guest gives
you their time, especially after a tough loss for the

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team that he covers, you know, you try to, you know,
give him a few softballs, you know, to kind of
open things up. But Arnie Spaniard was was not quite
not quite so kind.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
So that doesn't surprise me. You said that's how radio
was done. Like, yes, that's not what Arnie does.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
Though, no, no, no, no, no, I'll give him credit.
Sometimes he does. Like sometimes he's so like ask the question,
that's so inappropriate, but it's also like sort of appropriate.
Like I'll just give you a very quick example. We
were filling in on July fourth, and July fourth was
the day that that kid committed to Texas Tech for

(59:07):
the huge nil money whatever, blah blah blah, And I
actually happened to know the agent and so we were
trying to get the kid on the kid I think
it was actually his birthday, and so the agent was like,
I'll come on, and I wasn't sure, but it was
a great interview whatever. But Arnie just leads off right
away with so did you take the highest bid? And
it was like kind of the question that you probably

(59:29):
should ask as like a journalist, but probably not like
how I would have directly led the conversation, but I
give him credit. He did, and the agent admitted he
was like, that was the highest bid, you know, obviously,
And I love the guy, but you know, he did
the politically correct thing of there was a lot of
reasons we chose Texas Tech whatever. Another conversation for another day,

(59:49):
But I just bring it up because because I think
I probably would have gotten there at some point, but
Arnie just didn't meat around the bush and was just like,
just just give us the gossips. So anyway, Fox Sports
radio er Torus Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Fox
Sports Radio studios let's go back to Thursday, j Mart

(01:00:10):
interesting game. You know, the rain delay really took a
lot of juice out of it. But Philadelphia Eagles went
twenty four to twenty. We know the situation. Not a
great night for Ceedee Lamb. A couple of big drops
on the final possession. And it's weird because again, you know,
you Philly wins. They do what they have to do.

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I don't know what the big take to me like
as weird as it sounds like. The takeaway to me,
I thought Dallas actually looked good. And you know, I'll
be quick here, but I think everybody had the same
take on Dallas in the offseason. But you know, they
look confident. You know, Dak Prescott looked good. I mean,
the broadcast mentioned multiple times that he was in the

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best shape of his life coming off those multiple injuries whatever.
So there's a Philly conversation to be had. But you know,
maybe the Cowboys all of a sudden, you know, obviously
they're playing a pretty weak schedule because of how they finished,
maybe they're not not as bad as we thought. They
looked pretty good and you know, basically their most reliable
player was actually the one that let him down on
Thursday night.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
Yeah, I mean, I definitely think that they did look
good division opponent, somebody they do know, obviously, somebody that's
more talented than they are. But at the same time,
sometimes those division matchups can go a little weird. I mean,
you could potentially, if you wanted to try and defend
Kansas City, make the same argument about what you saw

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on Friday night. But I think maybe the most important
thing was that Dak did play well, and that was
kind of just going back and forth, back and forth
with everybody scoring all night long, and that made it
a positive turn of events as well. And you talked
about Lamb. Lamb had a really good game until he
had a bad game. Sure like he was doing some

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really good stuff. He had like seven catches for nine
six yards, but then he misses the one that you
have to have late in the game, and so it
ends up not being what it could have been. Like
he didn't play awful all night, but he didn't make
the plays that you have to make. When you're the
guy getting that kind of money, you're expected to make
those plays. So you don't remember the good plays and

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the advantages that he provided for Dallas early in that game,
you only remember the opposite and that's that's that's part
of the course, and that's what you get in that scenario.
But I did think that they looked more together than
I expected, and the coaching didn't stick out like a
sore thumb, like maybe you thought it could have there

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and it did. I mean AJ Brown didn't do anything
until the last forty five seconds of the game. He
called one pass for eight yards. DeVante Smith I think
had four catches, but it wasn't even twenty yards that
I mean, Jalhen Hurts was outstanding. But outside of that, like,
nobody really impressed you that much on Philadelphia's offense. And
I don't know how much of that is attributable to

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Dallas playing a pretty solid defensive game. But the Cowboys
definitely quitting themselves, I think better than anybody anticipated, going
in really quickly.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Big deal, little deal, no deal, the AJ Brown.

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
Stuff, what that? He didn't do very much?

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
One one catch for eight yards?

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
You know, No, I'm not that worried about it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Yeah, I'm actually true.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
Now, I mean it's it's one game. He wasn't he
obviously went to focus. They couldn't find him open or whatever.
I don't know what happened there, but he's entitled to
have a bad game. Now, if we see three or
four of these in a row and he starts talking,
that's when you have problems. But that's all. I'm not concerned yet.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
I'm not really saying he had a bad game. I'm
saying he wasn't really targeted. And we just know how
wide receivers can act. We know he's certainly had some
interesting you know, nothing like terrible, terrible, but you know,
reading books on the sideline, stuff like that. I guess
it's more of a do you think, because they did
talk about it quite a bit during the broadcast, and

(01:04:00):
I'll admit I don't I haven't seen any quotes that
stood out, like from Sirianni or from AJ Brown or
Jalen Hurtz or whatever. But I don't know. Just just
you know, one target, one catch, eight yards, you know,
receiver that's making crazy amounts of money. I could just
see that, like you said, if it if he's not
more involved in future weeks, I could see that becoming

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a thing.

Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
Oh yeah, well, I mean he's definitely one that you
got to keep your eye on if it becomes a trend.
I'm just not worried after one game. But I mean, again,
I do the show out of Nashville, as most people
know by now, and his entire tenure here I was,
I was covering that team day to day, and so
you saw and I saw, you know, the end, when
the trade happened and when everything went wrong. So I mean,

(01:04:43):
you look at all of it, and it's just kind
of He's definitely one to keep an eye on because
he can be kind of volatile and a little bit emotional,
and he's not gonna button up. He will talk, so
that if that becomes a problem, we're gonna find out
about it real fast, because he's going to make it
very obvious that there's a problem. Right now, I'm not concerned.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
Fox Sports Radio enter towards Jason Martin, broadcasting live from
the Fox Sports Radio Studios, will come back. We'll look
ahead to Sunday, where the biggest story might actually be
off the field. We'll discuss that next. For we do tho,
let's get it over the news desk Steve de Seger,
what is trending ball.

Speaker 6 (01:05:22):
To get to and we'll get to that football in
a moment and a lot in about fifteen minutes as well.
The late ballgame has the A's up seventeen to three
at the Angels in the bottom of the ninth inning.
There were some football games that didn't have scoring like
that and cal Raleigh with his fifty second home run
of the season. Seattle hit five out of the park
in a ten to two win at Atlanta. Raleigh with

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the fifty two homers, the record for home runs by
a switch hitter in a season is fifty four by
Mickey Mantle in nineteen sixty one. As for home runs
as a catcher, forty two of his home runs have
been when he's been Seattle's catcher this year. That ties
the record of Hovey Lopez, who had forty two of
those in his last year with the Braves in two

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thousand and three.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
Didn't know we get a Mickey Mantle and Hovey Lopez reference.

Speaker 6 (01:06:09):
That's more than appropriate for this show, I would say,
But nothing tops what happened in Baltimore tonight, something that,
as we talked about on the show before this, literally
no one could think of ever hearing this happening in
baseball history. The Dodgers had a no hitter with two
outs in the bottom of the ninth, up three nothing
at Baltimore and did not win the game. The starter

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gave up a solo homer. Yoshinobu Yamamoto came out after
one hundred and twelve pitches. He had ten strikeouts, two walks.
Tonight Jackson Holliday with the long bawl. The Dodger bullpen
could not get the final out Blake Trin and then
Tanner Scott, who suffered his ninth blown save of the season,
which is tied for the league lead. Baltimore, with four

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runs in the bottom of the ninth, beat the Dodgers
four to three. The Orioles have won five straight. The
Dodgers have lost five in a row, so the Dodger
lead in the NL West is down to one game
over the Padres, who held on for a ten eight
victory at Colorado. Padres had lost five in a row.
Here's the amazing thing. According to the Elias Stats people,
only one other team in the expansion era, which goes

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back to the early nineteen sixties, had lost a game
in nine innings after carrying a no hitter through eight
and two thirds. That was the Dodgers in twenty eleven.
When they broke up a Padres combined no hitter. The
thing is that was a zero zero game in the ninth.
This was a three nothing lead and pitching a no
hitter with two outs in the ninth and gave up

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four runs in the ninth inning after that to lose
four to three, a truly shocking ending. Let's get to
the late night college football shell we because Arizona's game
is underway after the long lightning delay and the Wildcats
are leading Weber State. That's fourteen to nothing. A lot
of Cats in that game, and number ten South Carolina

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after a lightning delay at the start in the final
two minutes, finally thirty eight ten the lead over South
Carolina State. Also Washington State at home, speaking of Cats,
leading San Diego State nineteen to seven early third quarter,
Bysu's leading now seventeen nothing against Stanford in the third.
Washington up thirty four to ten on UC Davis late

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second quarter, and the late game may or may not
be in Hawaii tonight thanks to the lightning in Arizona.
Hawaii leads seven nothing over Sam Houston in the first
UNLV did hold on to beat UCLA thirty to twenty three.
Among the other games, Ohio U at home beat West
Virginia seventeen to ten. UMass lost at home to Bryant.

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I told you last week with their first result, this
was not looking good for UMass football, as if any
season has looked good for UMass football. They lost at
home twenty seven twenty six to Bryant. NC State won
the shootout at home against Virginia thirty five thirty one.
More on that game in about ten to fifteen minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
It a weird That's so absolutely I was going to
complain about that. I mean, I went to school there
for two years, and I'm just like, I'm almost embarrassed.

Speaker 6 (01:09:08):
Then at least they played. We'll get to that. Syracuse
beat Yukon in overtime. Oh, that's brutal twenty seven. He
comes up seventeen to six with five minutes to go
and lost an overtime. We'll be talking about that game
as well. Fresno State won at Oregon State thirty six
twenty seven with three field goals in the fourth quarter
and a late pick six. Nevada won on a late
pick six twenty to seventeen against Sacramento State. So everything

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is pretty much in the books, and that includes the
Clemson comeback against Troy, Mississippi State upsetting Arizona State, South
Florida with a field goal on the final play to
win at Florida. Oklahoma beat Michigan twenty four to thirteen.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
Back to you, thank you very much, Steve Sager to
Sega will be back in just a few moments with
his extended update. But this is a perfect about three
four to five minute segment, j Mart because one of
the you know, listen, there there are some things here
an Americana that are just perfect, you know, apple pie

(01:10:09):
on a cool fall day, hot dogs on July fourth
and up until tomorrow, NFL red Zone. But that's gonna change.

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
We have to we have to do this.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
We have to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
We have to talk about this is gonna upset me
something fierce.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
By the way, let me just say this, and I
respect all of our colleagues in the media space, everybody
that does the real men don't watch red Zone. Shut up,
please shut up, shut up. I'm sorry when there's twenty
two games going on in the early window that I
don't have, you know, you're not whatever. So the point being,
and by the way, whatever we know what's going on.

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Red Zone will now have a handful of short commercials.
Scott Hansen himself the poor guy. He's the face of
this and he shouldn't be, but he had to tweet out.
He tweeted out earlier today, came out this week there's
gonna be commercials on red Zone. Four total commercials for
fifteen seconds in a double box between plays, none during

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the witching hour. And he claims, by the way, it
wasn't a Disney or ESPN decision, but it doesn't really matter.

Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
They teased this last year a little bit sure still though,
people are not going to buy that because this is
what everybody's expecting. He has been to do is find
a way to ruin disneify considered Disney seems to be
messing up everything it touches these days, something that is perfect, like,

(01:11:41):
don't change this thing. But unfortunately red Zone becomes the
next casualty in streaming like every streaming service, not only
the price is going up, but the ad tears are
starting to become almost indelible, Like we've come to a
universe where WrestleMania is going to have commercials during the

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matches on ESPN that has never happened before, and we
have now seen that they now have the right through
this new deal, to put in ads in the middle
of a show that is the primary event of the year.
That'd be like putting it, Just to quickly say this,
that would be like putting an ad in the middle

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of the Super Bowl during game action. This is where
we are headed, folks, And if we can't have red
zone the way red zone deserves to be, I'm not
sure that America can survive.

Speaker 8 (01:12:38):
Quite frankly, well, I don't know about the last part,
but you know what I would just say is I
think where the frustration comes in, and I'll be quick it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
Just it doesn't It's not gonna stop here. And I
think that's the frustration with every fan with everything to
do with the sports and the squeezing every dollar out
of everything, right quick example, Why am I so against
NCAA tournament expansion beyond sixty eight? Why am I against
college football playoff expansion beyond twelve? Because if we go

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past twelve to sixteen, it's not gonna stop at sixteen.
At some point, It's gonna go to something else at
some point. If you know, the powers that be at
the NCAA tournament could say, well, it's only gonna be
to seventy two and you're not even gonna notice the
difference or whatever, and then in five years it'll be
ninety six, and then in seven years it won't even
reflect the thing that we loved in the first place.

(01:13:36):
And this is a perfect example. Oh, it's fifteen second
four fifteen second commercials over a six hour window. You
won't even notice, and then there will be commercial breaks,
and then there will be this, and then in three
years or five years or whatever, Red Zone won't be
the thing that it was that we all loved. That's
where my frustration comes into.

Speaker 3 (01:13:54):
That's right, that's it again. It becomes encroaching. It's a
slippery slope mentality. It starts with four or not in
a witching hour, then all of a sudden, it's more.
Then they're longer than the box itself, that has the
game becomes a quarter of the screen instead of half,
and the ad takes up the other three quarters. It's
just gonna be encroaching, dripping, annoying, and there's not really

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anything the consumer can do about it, because people are
going to continue to watch Red Zone in this way
it's just not going to be the pure thing that
it once was.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
It's just not Red Zone Radio. A red zone Red
Zone of course, kicking off tomorrow one pm. Poor Scott
Hintsen is one tweeting out all the updates.

Speaker 3 (01:14:37):
Literally, people are saying that he's at fault because he's
not willing to strike and refuse to do the show
and all this guss like, dude that he has no power.
People like, if you don't think they'd just find somebody
else to put in that role, then you are out
of your mind.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
Give it to Steven A. Smith. He does everything else
overready is yes, sorry, you have fourteen hours of Red
Zone Radio. Fox Sports Radio. This is Air Torre's a
Jason Aren't broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.
Will come back when we do as we do every
week around this time. Let's get it over the news
desk to Sager will give us his extended update everything
you missed on a busy September day in Major League baseball,

(01:15:14):
college football, and of course looking ahead to Sunday. This
is Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back everybody. Fox Sports Radio.
Aertorus Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio
studios as we do every week around this time. Let's
get it over to the news desk Steve de Sager,

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let us know what is trending and everything we missed
throughout the day.

Speaker 6 (01:15:40):
I don't know why it took until this season for
it to dawn on me, but how have we not
been calling our beloved co host Tennessee Martin all this time?

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (01:15:49):
You tea Martin is in action right now. That is
one of the Lake games tonight. They are losing at
you Top forty two to seventeen, and the Arizona Wildcats
are leading the we were State Wildcat. It's late first
quarter twenty four to nothing for Arizona already. Meanwhile, let's
hear the sounds of the band at Ohio State on

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the field after the game. It's not just anything because, apparently,
according to the writer that tweeted this out, Ohio State
and the Grambling bands decided to stay after the game
was over for a little while longer and just performed
together for the very few fans who had remained in
Ohio Stadium to watch. Congratulations a little sportsmanship and fun

(01:16:32):
in the old sports world. And I will add that
the Grambling Tigers also received nearly a million dollars to
visit number one Ohio State and lose the game seventy
to nothing. Today, apparently Ohio State's paying out about three
mil total in their guarantees this year.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
Did you see how much Army got to go to
Kansas State and go No, they got over a million dollars.

Speaker 6 (01:16:54):
Oh my goodness, congratulations.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
I know you think, you know, you think Army was
pretty well funded. They didn't need a million dollars to
go to Kansas State, but they did and they got
the win. I know you mentioned Bryant beating UMass. I
was just thinking about it because Army lost to an
FCS team last week and then goes and beats Kansas
State today.

Speaker 6 (01:17:12):
And we mentioned on last Saturday show it's payouts of
over a million ah fo Michigan this month. I think
at Central Michigan next visiting next month next week rather
And now to that game of NC State Virginia that
we talked about a few minutes ago. These two teams
in the ACC played each other every season from nineteen

(01:17:34):
sixty through two thousand and three. They have barely played
each other in the last decade plus. As the ACC
continues to expand and they're up to seventeen teams. Well,
they met in Raleigh today. NC State against Virginia did
not count toward the league standings today it was labeled
a non conference game. Apparently this had happened for Wake

(01:17:55):
Forest against North Carolina a couple times in recent years
as well. You see, NC State rescheduled the game with
app State so they could add Virginia as a Power
four opponent, because you know, we've already got nine conference
games in the Big Ten and nine conference games in
the Big twelve, and well not for the ACC. You know,

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even the SEC famously announced last month we're going to
nine conference games starting next year, still eight on a
conference schedule for the ACC. Apparently, it is mathematically impossible
for a seventeen team league to have nine conference games
on a schedule. Therefore, their current idea is maybe we
can expand and still have the eight conference games and

(01:18:39):
then just add like one Notre Dame and a Power
four for everybody across the board, or eight plus one,
you know, something like that. We'll see. But fact is,
two ACC teams met today in what was not a
conference game.

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
I'll be very quick, but Friday Night's Fox game is
Arizona Kansas State, which is a Big Twelve matchup that
does not count towards the Big Twelve standings.

Speaker 3 (01:19:02):
Because a game. I can't stand this. They literally were
like I even heard it, like the either Virginia or
the NC State athletic director. It was in C State
because Dave Doram was shown a list of teams that
they could pick to play in and out a conference matchup,
and one of them was Virginia, and I was just like,
I can't with this, Like this is what are we

(01:19:23):
even doing here?

Speaker 6 (01:19:24):
And he was saying, you know, at least we can
get it in our region and our fans can go
and they're familiar with the opponent. You know, if you
play somebody like Utah, you're starting from a scratch.

Speaker 3 (01:19:33):
Guy.

Speaker 6 (01:19:34):
Okay, yeah, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
NC State has to play Virginia in a non con game.
But don't you worry that they got a cal or
whoever in the conference. They actually don't have them in
league play. But you get the point.

Speaker 6 (01:19:46):
There was the Yukon game that they nearly pulled off
at Syracuse, but notable that the Syracuse the winning head
coach Ran Brown, was so ticked off after the game
he had his players in full uniform running sprints on
the field before they had a chance to go to
the locker room. Some fans were still there in the
stadium milling around, and the players were on the field

(01:20:09):
as punishment after the win, running sprints on the artificial turf,
reminding me of the old hockey coach Herb Brooks, the
Olympic Legend of nineteen eighty and some of his tune
up games won. Specifically, he was so ticked off at
his team and the fans thought they were getting an
exhibition or something. Nope, just sprints back and forth on
the ice.

Speaker 2 (01:20:28):
Well, thank you to Segre. We appreciate you. Busy day
in sports, and we got one hour left. We'll come
back talk some college football preview Week one of the NFL.
It's here. This is Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (01:20:45):

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
Welcome in everybody, our three towards Martin, Fox Sports Radio.
We are broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Yes,
we are live one am Eastern j Martin. I will
take you up till two am Eastern. Bernie Fratto of
the Bernie Fratto Show will follow us. Cannot wait to
hear what Bernie has to say about a busy Week

(01:21:12):
two of college football and of course a busy Week
one in the NFL. Two games are in the books.
What do we got? What does that make? Thirteen more games?
Fourteen more games between now and Monday night. We'll start
our preview of Week one of the NFL at about
twenty minutes from now. Make our picks in the big
games in week one. But for me to let's go

(01:21:34):
ahead and put a bow on Week two in college football,
j Mart only one Top twenty five matchup, so let's
start there. We'll kind of rip around with a couple
stories from the day. The big game was in Norman, Oklahoma.
Oklahoma and Michigan Top twenty matchup. Oklahoma gets the win
twenty four to thirteen. The big story, at least in

(01:21:54):
my opinion, John Mattier, the high profile transfer quarterbacks some
believed he was maybe the transfer available, came from Washington State,
was touted as just a great dual threat guy. Well,
he finishes with two hundred and seventy yards passing, one
passing touchdown, seventy four yards rushing two rushing touchdowns. Oklahoma

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gets the win. And I'll say this, you don't want
to put the car before the horse. But in an
SEC where Texas already has a loss, Alabama already has
a loss. LSU, by the way, did not look good
tonight against Louisiana Tech. SEC might be more wide open
than we expected. And Oklahoma looks the part. They get
the win over Michigan.

Speaker 3 (01:22:35):
Yep, you know, there's not much to add. Matier looked
really good. The Oklahoma defense looked pretty good for the
second week in a row. Michigan Underwood's numbers if you
just look at it and say, wow, nine to twenty four. Boy,
he really struggled. He was He really was playing with
a handtog on this back in terms of what he

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was allowed to do, especially in the first half of
the game. Made a couple of plays. He's young. Obviously,
there's gonna be ups and downs there there. We'll see
what Michigan looks like in a couple months. I don't
think this is gonna be indicative of what they'll look
like later on in the year. At the same time,
I did not have them in a college football playoff either,
so I kind of think that's this is about where

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they're gonna end up somewhere in the fifteen to twenty
range probably, but we'll see by the end of the year.
In terms of Oklahoma, though, the SEC looks beatable in
terms of a lot of the teams that you felt
good about coming into the season have already kind of
given you reason for pause and potentially stepping into that void.

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If they have found a real competent quarterback and somebody
that can get the job done both with his legs
and with his arm in Materier, Oklahoma, that could be
a really dangerous team. But more than anything, they're gonna
be tough to play week in and week out. If
they're able to move the football. That's something they simply
could not do. Last year. Wasn't a defensive thing. It
was Jackson Arnold or whoever they had under center just

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not being what they needed, and the coordination and everything
that was going on was just it was poor, quite frankly.
So things are looking up in a year where they
had to for Brent Vittibles in terms of being able
to keep that job.

Speaker 7 (01:24:15):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:24:15):
One quarterback who lived up to expectations early, John Mattier.
Another guy at least for one day did today, Arch
Manning two hundred and ninety five yards passing four touchdowns.
The thing is, though he was playing San Jose State,
did today do anything to change your Again, I don't
want to put an opinion out there as far as

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what the opinion was coming into today, But obviously Arch
largely struggled for that season opener against against Ohio State.
They lose fourteen to seven. In the shoe thirty eight
to seven win against San Jose State. But I'll be
quick when I say to me, I don't know that
this moves the needle. I saw some people, Oh, you know,
you guys were too hard on him for the Ohio

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State game. Well, I'm sorry. Ohio State is the type
of team that he is going to have to beat
for Texas to reach their potential as a team that
could compete for a national championship. You saw what you
wanted to see, but I'm not ready to say that
you know he's turned a corner or he's anything specific

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other than a work in progress. By the way, Texas's
next two games you tep and Sam Houston before they
play at Florida in their SEC opener. Arch manning quick
takeaways Jimmark.

Speaker 3 (01:25:28):
Yeah, I mean he wasn't as he's not going to
be as bad, and he isn't as bad as he
looked last week for three quarters, and he's not as
good right now as the guy that we saw today.
He's somewhere in the middle. I mean, that's really the
truth of it. I would lean more towards what we
saw last week because to your point, you didn't bring

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arch Manning to Texas to beat San Jose State thirty
eight to seven on a random Saturday. You brought him
there to give you a shot against everybody every single
week and to be the guy that could be a
difference maker in those kind of games. Last week, he
just was not prepared. He wasn't quite ready for what

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he faced. I think there's still plenty of time again,
still very young in his football career at Texas. But no,
there was nothing like it was a good performance, right,
I mean, he had a great especially start to that game.
They didn't do a whole lot in the second half,
but didn't really have to. But he almost had three
hundred yards passing and had another twenty on the ground

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and a rushing touchdown there. So I mean it was
definitely a great day for him, but it was San
Jose State of course it was. It had to be.
I mean, that's like minimum expectations for arch Manning there.
So again, I think it was overreaction to bury him
last week, and it's overreaction to crown him this week.
Either one of those takes. I don't think his intellectually

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honest somewhere. The truth lies in the middle, and we'll
see whether or not he starts to favor the right
or whether he starts to favor the left when it
comes to good and or bad. And that's just gonna
be when we see him against Florida, when we see
him against Oklahoma, and when we see him against some
of these teams. So they're gonna be three and one
going to the swamp, and that'll be just a bit

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of a test only because that crowd will be ready.
I don't know if Florida is gonna be ready for
Texas based on what we saw tonight or last night.

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
Well, i'll tell you what you said, Florida or Texas
might be. Texas will be three in one when they
go to the swamp. It's not unrealistic that Florida is
one in three because they lose on Saturday to South Florida.
They have at LSU at Miami. But let's focus on Saturday.
You lose to an in state school. You can't call
them a rival because they are not. There's nothing comparable

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about South Florida, and that's no disrespect. But they don't
have the same money, the same history, the same resources,
the same whatever. You'll lose a game in which just
everything that you could have done wrong down the stretch
that you absolutely did, get the ball back with under
three minutes to go, have up by the way, up
sixteen to fifteen, with a chance to really chew down

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the clock. You run two pass plays Florida. South Florida
gets the ball back. You have an unnecessary roughness penalty
for one of your players spinning on a South Florida player.
I'm sorry in a post Jalen Carter, world, dude, that
is the dumbest penalty I mean you could ever. I mean,

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how about this. We had a Florida player several years
ago take off his shoe and throw it at or No,
he took off the opponent's shoe and threw it down
the field.

Speaker 3 (01:28:39):
And this was worse.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
Yeah, I was gonna say that was less dumb than
spinning on each player forty eight hours after Jalen Carter.
That doesn't include billion apiers timeout use it was a disaster.
I'm talking long enough. Go ahead, j Mark, give me
your give me your Florida Gators takes.

Speaker 3 (01:28:55):
It's just a game that if you are the University
of Florida, if you were the coach of the University
of Florida, you can't lose. You can't lose to South Florida.
You can't lose in that manner. And when they were
playing you tough, but you ended up getting the lead
back and you held it with three minutes to play
in that game, and it's in your building, you end

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up kneeling that thing out, or you put a touchdown
up and you put that thing out of reach, and
they did neither. It was poor clock management. You gave
them the football back and then you had the fifteen
yard penalty that got them out of the shadow of
their own end zone. After you had stopped them on
first down to where it was going to be second
and long, you gave them fifteen. You gave them a
fresh set of downs, and then you immediately allowed a

(01:29:39):
run on the right side by the sideline, in which
everybody wearing a Florida Jersey seemed to miss a tackle
and that's just something you can't do with Florida. And look,
Napier is not the one making the tackle, but he's
the one that's going to take the fall for a
lot of this. And while we both agree he's not
going to lose his job this weekend, there are certain

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things that get brought back up when you do lose
your job. And we will hear about this performance this weekend,
this loss when it comes time to let him go.
What you will hear from all the pundits and everything else.
You'll hear it from us again too, but you'll hear
it from media down there and everything else is As
they're running down the reasons why Billy Napier was bought

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out and it is now not the football coach at
University of Florida, one of those will be There was
a Saturday in September early in the season where they
blew a game against South Florida at home, and that
felt like that was the beginning of the end. That's
what we're getting here, Like this right here is going
to cost him his job ultimately.

Speaker 2 (01:30:46):
By the way, the stat on Florida ten games remaining
eight against teams that are ranked currently and oh, by
the way, one of the two teams that is not
ranked is Mississippi State, which beat a top twenty five
opponent on Saturday night when they beat Arizona State. Finally,
last college football story of the day. This one kind

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of came out probably about two hours ago, but we
all watched the game Monday night. Bill Belichick was the
what making his debut. Mary make sure I'm gonna need
that sound in about half a second. Okay, but Bill
Belichick makes his debut. They lose on Monday night. Bring
it up because over the course of the week, we

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had the weird story about the North Carolina target or
North Carolina deciding to ban the New England Patriots from
their facility. We weren't really sure is it a real story?
Is it not a real story? Bill Belichick asked about
it after the game, was not afraid to just tell
us exactly how he felt.

Speaker 7 (01:31:45):
Yeah, well, no, it's clear that I'm not welcome there
around their facility, and so welcome in ours.

Speaker 2 (01:31:50):
Very simple Bill Belichick acknowledging that story is true. The
New England Patriots not allowed in North Carolina's facility Bill
Belichick does get the win, but I think this just
makes them look bad and callous and just just really
really bad, just really bad.

Speaker 3 (01:32:07):
On It's just spite it's spiteful. It's immature. It has
nothing to do with the football team, Like, it has
nothing to do with the players on the team at all.
Who could benefit from Patriots staff members scouts being in
the building during the course of the season. It's all
about Bill Belichick and his feud with Robert Kraft and

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his feud with the Patriots organization. Like, we have to
be bigger than this, we have to be better than this.
Like why did you take this job at North Carolina
if it was going to be like this? Like, just
stay on TV and hide your pride a little bit.
Just keep on doing those hits with Peyton and Eli
and yucking it up and having a good time, be

(01:32:50):
an analyst, make some money, hang out with your girlfriend,
and don't do this because this whole thing just rings about.
This is a university of Bill Belichick, University of North Carolina.
It has nothing to do with the tradition in Chapel Hill.
It has nothing to do with anything regarding North Carolina
as university at all. This is about the ego and

(01:33:12):
arrogance of Bill Belichick, Like, Okay, they won't let you
in their facility, so you want to stoop to their
level instead of just who cares? Shrug it off, move on,
Like why do you need to be in their facility anyway?
Like you're not the head coach there anymore. They've moved
on the guy, by the way, that is the head

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coach you've known for a very very long time, in
Mike Vrabel. But outside of everything, it's just like, are
you going to coach North Carolina or you going to
you know, try to cross off some things on your
mean girls list, because that's what it feels like to me.

Speaker 2 (01:33:51):
Great comment, great line. Yeah, I think we're trying to
Bill Belichick in college football. We're trying to make fetch
a thing and it's not a thing. But all I'll say,
I think it's selfish and I think that it proves
and I was somebody listen, we all watched how it
ended with the Patriots. I think I was actually ahead.

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I remember I was filling in with Arnie at one point,
and I remember the year before he got fired. So
I'm not even talking about the final season I'm talking
about the year before. I said, is he an NFL
candidate if he gets fired because or if he's not
the Patriots head coach? So and I basically said all
the same things as I said, the offense looks bad
post Brady whatever. I bring it up because I was

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one that thought that there was a world where this
might not be a train wreck, where he would have
a chip on his shoulder, something to prove whatever. All
I'll say is that this just proves to me that
he's not in this for the right reasons. You know,
the girlfriend thing is not only weird, but you know
it's at the detriment of the program. It just is

(01:34:55):
date who you want to date. But she has too
much say in stuff that she should not have, and
that's just an indisputable fact. The staff is filled with
a lot of people that frankly, aren't qualified for their jobs.
And now you just have a situation where you know
where you're not about the kids, you're not about what
you should be and it's a real shame.

Speaker 3 (01:35:17):
Jmar So there was another take. There was another take.
I'm trying to remember who it was that said this,
but I heard this just a few days ago. In
relation to North Carolina and what Sunny Dyke's had to
say after the game where he felt like, you know,
they weren't taking TCU seriously, not that North Carolina wasn't
that nobody else was, nobody in the country was. I

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wish I could remember so I could credit this properly.
But it's one hundred percent right. These college football coaches
to go up against Bill Belichick are auditioning because they've
been told for years and years and years that college
coaches can't hack it in the NFL, that it's a
completely different world up there, that they're out of their depth,

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all this other kind of stuff, and so now they
have a chance not just against Belichick, who obviously is
on that Mount Rushmore, but also all these other coaches
have all this NFL experience that are on the North
Carolina sideline. They want to show NFL teams, Yeah, you
don't think I can hack it in the NFL. Watch this.
And so they are using this like they're putting a

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target on the North Carolina number on their schedule whatever
week that is, and they're saying, yeah, I'm going to
show you this week because this is my opportunity. Because
everybody is paying attention to the NFL, is paying attention.
A lot of these teams are paying attention to the
NFL to what North Carolina does, and so it becomes
a moment for all the opponents to shine at his expense.

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So he may have a weaker schedule, but he's got
incredibly driven coaches who want to shut the narrative up
that they could not coach on the next level.

Speaker 2 (01:36:56):
Yeah, I just think it's not only that, it's also
a verification of what you're capable of. If he's one
of the best defensive minds in the history of the
sport and you put up forty points on him, that's
some sort of check mark on your resume as well. Now,
you know, you could argue, how what does he have
left in the tank? You know, how good is his personnel, whatever,

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But I do think there is something to that part
as well of just you know, okay, I mean, whatever
you think of the whatever I mean, he is one
of the great defensive minds ever and a team like
TCU getting the chance to to kind of really stick
it to him. And and yes, so anyway, Fox Sports
radio er Torris Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Fox
Sports Radio Studios. We have put a bow on Week

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two of the college football season. We're just getting started
on Week one of the NFL though two games in
the books fourteen on Sunday and Monday. We're gonna preview
a couple of them here over the next few minutes.
This is Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio.
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your screen. In just a minute, we will do our
deep dive into the remaining Week one games for you.
Let's get over the news desk final time this evening.
Steve Seger, what's training?

Speaker 6 (01:38:34):
Hello again, Tennessee. Martin Comma direct address ut Martin did
wind up losing forty two to seventeen at YouTube, but
there are a few games still going on Washington Huskies,
and it's early third quarter forty nine to ten on
UC Davis BYU with two minutes left, lead Stanford twenty
seven to three. Washington State ahead of San Diego State

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twenty nine to thirteen early in the fourth at Arizona
there was lightning delay at the start, so there's still
late second quarter Arizona Wildcats leading the Weber State Wildcats
twenty seven to nothing. And Hawaii's have fourteen to three
on Sam Houston late in the second quarter. And I
didn't mention earlier that Missouri got to play Kansas today

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and Missoo with two late touchdowns beat Kansas forty two
to thirty one. There were a lot of blowouts in
college football. Number one Ohio State seventy to nothing over
Grambling State. Number two Penn State thirty four nothing over
Florida International. If you watch that, that was not a blowout.
Penn State's lead was thirteen to nothing late in the
third quarter. Number three LSU a winner tonight, but only

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led Louisiana Tech ten nothing late in the third twenty
three to seven. The final. Number four Georgia twenty eight
to six over Austin p Fifth rank Miami forty five
three winners against Bethune Cookman. Six ranked Oregon beat Oklahoma
State sixty nine to three. They did televise that one.
Number seven Texas over San Jose State thirty eight to seven.
Eighth rank Clemson at home, was trailing Troy sixteen to

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nothing before halftime, but beat Troy in a comeback twenty
seven to sixteen at tenth ranks South Carolina. Lightning delay
at the start tonight. Eventually Gangcocks thirty eight ten over
South Carolina State. Eleventh ranked Illinois won forty five nineteen
at Duke at Mississippi State, Bulldogs blew a seventeen to
nothing lead, but still won late against number twelve Arizona

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State twenty four to twenty on a long touchdown with
thirty seconds left. Upset at thirteenth ranked Florida, South Florida
the winner over the Gators third. How did this happen?
Eighteen to sixteen.

Speaker 2 (01:40:33):
I'm literally looking at the box score right now. It
is so bad, it is unbelievable. Yes, I'll just be quick.
USF runs of play with one forty five left, Florida
has two timeouts. USF doesn't run another play till one
minute left. Then they don't run another play till twenty
two seconds left. Then they use the first time out.

(01:40:54):
USF is on the Florida fourteen yard line. Just let
them score. They tackle of twice, let the clock run
down to three. USF calls the time out.

Speaker 6 (01:41:04):
Ball games and Florida quarterback DJ Langway one touchdown, pass
one interception, six carries nine yards rushing short field goal
final play wins it for USF. Fourteenth ranked Florida State
seventy seven to three over East Texas A and M
Top twenty matchup at Oklahoma went to the Sooners, beating
Michigan twenty four to thirteen. Sixteenth ranked Iowa State wins

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sixteen to thirteen over rival Iowa on a fifty four
yard field goal with under two minutes left. Baylor won
in two overtimes at seventeenth ranked SMU forty eight forty five.
Really stole that one. Baylor has beaten SMU fourteen straight times.
This was their first meeting in nearly a decade. Nineteenth
ranked Texas A and M A blowout win forty four

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to twenty two was the final against Utah State number
twenty Old miss won at Kentucky thirty to twenty three,
Alabama and Tennessee with easy wins. Same for Indiana, Texas Tech,
and Utah. The NFL notes the Steelers added incentives to
the contract of defensive tackle Cam Hayward, who until recently
had been a hold in. He'll be playing Sunday's opener.

(01:42:07):
Detroit gave wide receiver Jamison Williams a three year extension.
Forty nine Ers running back Christian McCaffrey will likely play
Sunday despite not practicing Friday. Packers defensive end Micah Parsons
is expected to play, although he was limited in practice
this week with a bad back. The Titans gave safety
Imani Hooker a three year extension, and the brown signed
rookie quarterback Quinshawn Judkins. He was the last remaining unsigned

(01:42:31):
draftee this year. He had been arrested for domestic violence
in July. WNBA Minnesota is thirty three to nine after
winning at Golden State and two things from basketball to
close up, This is Hall of Fame weekend, Springfield, Massachusetts
for the basketball haul into the Basketball Hall of Fame officially. Now,

(01:42:52):
people like Carmelo Anthony Dwight Howard coach, Billy Donovan from
the women's committee, Sue byrd Yukon and Maya more you
cun and this from the Men's EuroBasket tournament. They've started
the round of sixteen. Serbia was upset by Finland. Finland
advances to the quarterfinals even though Nikola Jokic had thirty

(01:43:15):
three points in defeat for the winners. Lowry Markinen from
the University of Arizona twenty nine points back to you.

Speaker 2 (01:43:22):
Thank you very much to Seger. Have a great evening.
I'm sure you'll be back with the fellas tomorrow. Arnie
spin you're Chris Plank late e from salam and Mark
Willard Early Fox Sports Radio Aeron towards Jason Martin. We
are broadcasting live for the Fox Sports Radio studios. All right,
I'll tell you what I mean. We got some games
to talk about. Mary, give us a little music. Let's

(01:43:44):
get in the mood. Week won two games in the books,
fourteen games left. We're not going to pick all of them,
but we'll get to some very big intriguing Week one games. Ian,
what are we talking about? First?

Speaker 9 (01:43:55):
All right, one of the biggest games of the weekend
is tomorrow afternoon one twenty five Pacific time on CBS.
The Detroit Lions take on the green Bay Packers. Spread
is minus one and a half in favor of green Bay.

Speaker 2 (01:44:07):
Aaron, who you got, j Mart, I'll say this, and
I think you'd probably agree. I think everybody who follows
the NFL agrees lot. I actually think both these teams,
to me are I don't know what to expect. I've
never been a huge Jordan love guy. And obviously the Lions.
You know, I was just talking to Mary mack there,
our resident Lions fan here her and Chris Purfett, you know,

(01:44:30):
the two coordinators lost. You know, a couple, a couple
of guys retired, a lot of individually talented pieces such
as Jamison Williams who just signed tonight. That's why I
bring them up. But I'll take the Packers at home.
I don't feel great about it. You know, I'm not
a a I mean, I am a little bit of

(01:44:51):
a better, but this isn't what I would touch. I
think green Bay probably gets to win. I think Detroit
to me is just the most intriguing team. If you
told me they're in the nfcchair game, play to go
to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (01:45:01):
I believe it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:02):
If you told me they missed the playoffs in that
crazy division, I'd believe it as well.

Speaker 3 (01:45:05):
Jammer, Yeah, see, I agree with you because I watched
what happened with the Philadelphia Eagles a couple of years ago. Yes,
they won the Super Bowl last year. Remember the year
before when Stikan left and Jonathan Gannon left. It took
some time. Now, I like Dan Campbell more than I
like Sirianni in terms of just being able to kind
of hold on to his culture the same way because

(01:45:27):
I felt like the offensive defensive coordinators had a lot
to do with what was happening in Philadelphia. I think
the same thing's true in Detroit. I'm not sure what
to make of it either, but I don't really like
Green Bay. I think Reid's probably gonna play Michael Parsons,
who was a Green Bay Packer, which is still kind

(01:45:48):
of baffling to me. If he does play, I mean,
he probably will, but is he going to be limited
in any way? And the Jordan Love point is the
one where I've just I don't know what Jordan Love is,
but I've definitely not high on him going into the year,
I'll go against you. I'll say the Lions find a
way to get this done, even though I definitely agree
with you. They could be a seven win team or

(01:46:08):
they could be a twelve win team.

Speaker 2 (01:46:10):
But I think is really interesting too, and I'll be
quick here, just because of how tough the division is.
Doesn't really get any easier when you factor in non
division games as well. A quick turnaround for the Green
Bay Packers, who have to play the Washington Commanders on
Thursday Night Football next week. And then you look at
the Lions next two bears, what are they We'll talk

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about them in a minute, And then at Baltimore. So
you know you lose this one, you know it doesn't
get any easier. Go ahead to you, all right.

Speaker 9 (01:46:40):
Next the game I'm personally most excited for, which is
not much of a hot take here. The Ravens are
going to Buffalo to take on the Bills. Baltimore is
actually favored by a point and a half here though,
despite being the away team. Start with you this time, though, Jmart,
what do you think?

Speaker 3 (01:46:55):
Yeah? I mean, this is just a phenomenal matchup to
get to open the season on Sunday Night Football. I
can't wait to watch this game, maybe an AFC Championship
game preview. Maybe there were probably some other teams that
we'll have something to say about that before the end
of the year. It's in Buffalo. That makes you feel
good about the Bills. But I actually like this. I

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like to pick. I think Baltimore is gonna go there
and win. We did not pick a super Bowl, but
I will tell you that I believe Baltimore is gonna
win the super Bowl this year.

Speaker 2 (01:47:29):
Well, golly, we could talk about that on the other
side of the break. How about this, j Mart, I
have Baltimore winning the super Bowl, but I'll take Buffalo
win this game.

Speaker 3 (01:47:42):
Yep. I think it's very possible.

Speaker 2 (01:47:43):
Yes, yeah, yeah, Like I think Ian said this spread
was what one one and a half something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:47:47):
One and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:47:48):
Yeah, you know, Buffalo is so tough at home week.
One part of the reason I like Baltimore win the
super Bowl is because they probably should have won their
last year. We could talk about that on the other side,
but I just think opening night Sunday night game crowd's
gonna obviously be crazy. I'll take Buffalo to win this one,

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all right.

Speaker 9 (01:48:10):
Next up, the Monday night game got the Minnesota Vikings
going to Chicago to take on the Chicago Bears. JJ
McCarthy versus Caleb Williams, Minnesota's favored by a point and
a half. What do we think, Aaron?

Speaker 3 (01:48:22):
Who you got?

Speaker 2 (01:48:23):
So let me just say this really quick.

Speaker 3 (01:48:24):
How can we have an opinion on this one?

Speaker 2 (01:48:26):
I was gonna say, could you argue, just let's just
talk this out. Could you argue the four most intriguing
teams in all of the NFL are the four teams
in the NFC North. I think you could.

Speaker 3 (01:48:40):
So I think you could definitely get there with three
of them. Green Bay I'm not as I'm not as interested,
even though there's definitely some intrigue there, but I definitely
see what you're saying, Like, I definitely agree that it's
just a division full of storylines.

Speaker 2 (01:48:56):
Yeah, I mean even with Green Bay. I mean all
in right now with my parsons, Jordan Love you know again,
who is he? What is he? Whatever? Al Right? So
a pick for this game? Oh boy? All right?

Speaker 3 (01:49:08):
So that's no idea, dude. We've never seen JJ McCarthy
and this is Caleb with Ben Johnson, so who knows.

Speaker 2 (01:49:14):
By the way, did you see the Tyler Dunn thing.
There was a Tyler Dunn deep dive on the Bear
season last year. A lot of headlines came out of it.
It felt like, oh yeah, it felt like, I'll be honest,
and I'm not criticizing his reporting because I know how
hard it is to report something like that. Felt like
a lot of coaches that were on that staff that

(01:49:34):
got fired that weren't happy about it and just kind
of ripped into Caleb Williams. Didn't make Caleb Williams sound good.
But again, I wonder how much of it was people
whose livelihoods were depending on him being maybe a little
bit better last year. Anyway, let's go to this game,
all right, so Monday night, the game is in Chicago.

Speaker 3 (01:49:58):
Are no?

Speaker 2 (01:49:59):
It was? It was a statement framed more like a question,
the game is in Chicago statement, not question, I'll take
the Bears. I don't feel good about it. Another one,
if I was sitting in a sports book, he couldn't
get any of my money. It's for the reason you said,
J Mart, what is JJ McCarthy, what is Caleb Williams?

(01:50:21):
To the point that you brought up two weeks ago, Jmart,
Like the Ben Johnson tough guy act. Is that legitimate?
Is it not legitimate? Is he genuinely unhappy with the
state of things or is he trying to be a
hard you know what? So many questions, not a lot
of answers. I'll take Chicago because they're at home on
Monday night.

Speaker 3 (01:50:41):
Yeah, I mean, that's probably the safest pick. And I
mean there's just so much unknown. But one thing I
think that is unknown is what is Ben Johnson as
a head coach. One thing I do know is what
Kevin O'Connell is as a head coach, and that is
very very good. And they've got a lot of talent.
They got Jones to run the ball, but then you've

(01:51:03):
got Jefferson and you've got so much for JJ McCarthy
to play around. So which of the two unknowns do
I want to go with? Do? I just want to
think that it is as simple as they're at home,
so they're gonna win. I'm gonna take Minnesota. I'm just
not so sure yet, not because I'm out on Kleb Williams,

(01:51:24):
just because there's a lot of new in that building,
and I think it's actually easier to be the road
team going in there because the home team's the one
is gonna have the pressure because they're gonna have the
fans that want to see something immediately. So I just
I feel like it's just gonna be one of those
nights where Minnesota is just gonna have their stuff together
and be a little bit more calm and it will show.

Speaker 2 (01:51:45):
All right, Ian, you got one more for us?

Speaker 1 (01:51:47):
I do.

Speaker 9 (01:51:48):
Got the San Francisco forty nine ers going to Seattle
to take on the Seahawks. This one, the spread is
actually the same as the others here, it's minus one
and a half. San Francisco's favored. Who you got me quick?
So once upon a time, j Mart we did a
what was the segment? We did the least important stories
of the offseason where he's just.

Speaker 3 (01:52:10):
The least interesting, like stories, stories that people are going
to overblow that really aren't going to be a big deal.

Speaker 2 (01:52:16):
Yeah, And so my number one was Sam Darnold. I've
never been a believer. I think Kevin O'Connell largely resuscitated him.
And then, oh, by the way, in the two biggest
games of the year, he completely fell flat on his face.
I know, Christian McCaffrey isn't one hundred percent coming into
this one. But to to Sager's point earlier, it sounds

(01:52:37):
like he is going to play. And I think the
forty nine ers, you know, the schedules manageable. The roster
is still talented on the front line. We'll see if
they can stay healthy. I'll take San Francisco to go
on the road get the division win in Seattle.

Speaker 3 (01:52:55):
Obviously Seattle was still a really tough and really loud environment.
But but I'm with you, I just don't know what
Sam Darnold is there yet. I don't know what I
don't know what to make of what's happening there. I'm
gonna need to see them play football before I can
actually say they're gonna win football games. I'm not saying
they're gonna go oh to seventeen. I'm just saying I
don't know enough to feel comfortable picking them, even at home.

(01:53:18):
So I'll take the forty nine ers as well.

Speaker 2 (01:53:21):
All right, Big games, fourteen games coming up, As we
mentioned the Big Ones four to twenty five Eastern Packers
hosting the Lions. We have a Sunday night Buffalo hosting Baltimore,
and then Monday night the super intriguing Minnesota at Chicago.
We'll come back. We'll put a bow on a show,
maybe talk a little bit about our super Bowl picks

(01:53:42):
that we sort of tease, sort of just gave away.
We'll discuss all that next Fox Sports three.

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