Aaron Torres & Jason Martin Preview the Super Bowl, Talk Josh Allen Winning MVP & More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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(00:27):
it can only mean one thing. We got one game
left on the NFL schedule, one football game until August,
unless you include spring football, which is Jmark's favorite topic
to cover. Jamart, what's going on?

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Man?

Speaker 4 (00:41):
Listen? I'll say this.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
You know, the the Super Bowl. It can be talked
about and over talked about. I'm so glad that we
are finally here. I'm so fired up for this game.
How are you doing, sir?

Speaker 3 (00:53):
I'm pretty excited too. I think there's a lot a
lot to dive into as it regards the matchup. Pretty
much avoided it all last week, and of course.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
It we can avoid it.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
We had the Trade of the century, the Trade of
the millennium, so we went in with a full list
of topics and then maybe the most inconceivable trade in
maybe sports history happened.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
So I may catch you out, but it was one
a while.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
No, that's true, But I mean it means that pretty
much everything we're gonna say regarding the games fresh. If
you listen to it us on a weekly basis, you're
not gonna hear too much repeated on this program. Tonight,
It's gonna be the first time we've really had to
look at this matchup in depth and talk about it.
So I'm definitely excited about that. You know, we're here,
We're ready for this, and I love this matchup. I

(01:40):
like this football game a lot. I can't wait to
see it.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
So let's just dive in, you know, because we really didn't.
And you know, like you said, for people who listen
to us every week in this window a lot different
than people joining us now. The Luca trade is exactly
six days and twenty three hours old because it broke
an hour two of our show week and it really
upended everything that we want to talk about. So Jaymart,

(02:03):
let's just start from scratch, start from the beginning. I mean,
we know this game, we know this matchup. We've heard
all the great hosts on these airwaves for the last
two weeks talk about it, and we know the narratives, right,
the three p the history, you know whatever.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
But I'm just going to open up the floor to you.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Give me the single most intriguing thing to you about
this game, whether it's an individual player, the history, narratives.
Just tell me what's most attriguing to you, because there
is so much to discuss it. As you said, we
actually didn't really get to talk about it very much
at all last week.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Yeah, so I've been thinking about this all day. I've
been wavering on it all day. We won't pick until
the end of the show. I'll throw out the question
and then I'll answer my own question at the end
of this broadcast. The Philadelphia Eagles are they the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers from a couple of years ago? Kansas City

(02:55):
wins these games all the time, but when they ran
into a rough, tough defense, a capable quarterback and you know,
an offensive line. I mean, what was the stat Patrick
Mahomes ran like two hundred and ninety yards in that game,
but it was all east and west because he was
running for his life the entire game from a defense

(03:18):
that was ferocious against him. And if he did get
the football off the secondary down the field was just
not having it. So if you take that and then
add into that Saquon Barkley, is that the kryptonite for
Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs. I think that's
the to me, that's the most important question on one side.
And then the flip side is but they're the Kansas

(03:39):
City Chiefs, And if there's anybody that can instill fear
in you just by existing as a football team, it
is that group with that quarterback and that head coach,
and that tight end and that pass rusher Chris Jones,
those and Steve's Magnolo. Those guys are gonna be ready
for the moment. Is the moment gonna capture the Philadelphia

(04:01):
Eagles at some point. So I think I think there
are questions on both sides that are intriguing here amidst
a million others, But those are the first two that
jump out.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, it stands out to me, and we could kind
of go in a direction from here. I think this
is the classic case of do you trust the coach
and the quarterback or do you trust the totality of
the parts. You know, I listen I don't think it's hyperbole,
and I'm sure everybody's discussed this all week. I think
you could legitimately argue every single position group outside of quarterback,

(04:30):
Philadelphia is better now ye yeah, clearly, And I want
to be clear for Casey fans listening, like you clearly
have individual talents. Chris Jones is amazing, you know whoever,
Travis Kelsey's.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
Us better than God even though Goddard's.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Good exactly, and you know Xavier Worthies coming along like
it's not to say, oh, you know, you know they're
this poverty team that's being completely carried by Patrick Mahomes.
That's not what I'm saying at all. But you know,
running back obviously advantage Philly. Wide receivers advantage Philly. I
would say, O line, although they're banged up, advantage Philly
D line. The totality of the D line. I think
you could argue is is you know, is Philly linebackers? Okay,

(05:07):
maybe maybe it's case and then defensive backfield I would
probably say Philly. But the point I'm trying to make is,
you know, this is the oldest adage in football is
do you trust the coaching the quarterback? Do you trust
the some of the parts. You know, I remember having
this conversation with you. It's a random example, but I
do remember, like remember the year that Georgia played Bama
in the National Championship game in football, and that was

(05:30):
kind of if you you know, I know you remember,
but for the audience that doesn't. Bama had beaten Georgia
a few weeks earlier, and it was but it was
a game where Georgia was just this this dominant defense,
you know, guys everywhere, and Bama, while it was still Bama,
it was kind of Bryce.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
Young and you know, a bunch of guys.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
And you know, there were maybe no great players, and
I think there were some injuries coming in for Bama,
and it was basically, do you trust save it and
Bryce Young or do you trust Kirby Smart and what
is probably a more talented roster. And that's just kind
of the way I feel about this game. And again,
we can get into it from any angle here and
we'll make our picks later in the show, but that's
just what it comes down to to me, is like,
can Mahomes overcome some deficiencies in other places relative to

(06:12):
what Philadelphia has, or is this the Philadelphia year where
the combination of Saquon the receivers, the defense, and of
course jal Jalen Hurts being a good but not great quarterback.
Will that ultimately be the difference?

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Yeah, I mean, I think that's right, and I think
you know, if you want to have some fun with
it and you really want to think about it, when
is the last time that the better quarterback did not
win the Super Bowl?

Speaker 4 (06:38):
That's a great question.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
So last year, better quarterback one Mahomes, year before that,
better quarterback one Mahomes over Jay one Hurts. Despite the
fact that Hurts played a fantastic game year before, Stafford
beats Burrow by a field goal, largely because of Aaron Donald.
But I mean, Stafford's going to be a Hall of Famer.

(07:02):
Burrow is likely to be a Hall of Famer as well.
I think that's like a six and one a half
dozen of the other argument. Fifty five, you had Brady
versus Mahomes. Some would put that one and two on
the list in some order all time. Brady crush Mahomes
the defense and everything else. That was a thirty one
to nine game, but again, those guys are close. Then

(07:22):
you had Mahomes and Jimmy Garoppolo. Mahomes won the game,
tom Brady against Jared Goff. Tom Brady won the game,
and then you had Nick Foles over Tom Brady. And
there's your answer. Sure, that's really the last time that
it happened. I think it generally does not happen. It's

(07:43):
rare when it happens. That doesn't mean it's not going
to happen tomorrow. It does mean I think. I don't
think anyone is going to argue that Jaywen Hurts is
a better quarterback than Patrick Mahomes. So this would be
kind of the exception, not the rule generally when we
get to this point in the season. But Hurts has
already performed against this very team at an extremely high level.

(08:07):
So I don't know that the difference is that big.
But just to your point about the quarterback and the coach,
the quarterback means an awful lot when you get to
this point, as does the coach as a matter of fact,
because generally that stands to reason too.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
Let me ask you a question.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
You mentioned obviously, Jalen Hurts performing very well against these
Chiefs two years ago. Do you think the fact that
that Philadelphia has played Kansas City before, maybe some of
the fear factor wouldn't be there. And I think you
could look at it one of two ways is that, well,
you know Allan and all of them face face him
every year in the playoffs, and they still seem to
be a little shook when they get to that stage.

(08:46):
San Francisco, you know, has played them twice, played them
tough twice, can't get over the hump. But I will say, like,
like me, personally, I do think if this was, say,
you know, somebody else instead of Philly that has not
seen Patrick mahomes In and the Chiefs on this stage,
I do think it would be a little bit different. Again,
I can't think of a specific team. I think, you know,

(09:07):
Detroit's kind of a mentally tough team if they had
made it. Whoever, But I do think, to me, I
think you're talking about what could potentially be one of
the greatest dynasties you know, that we'll ever see. And
we don't have to get into that conversation tonight, or
maybe we do later, But I think to me, the
broader conversation is I do think that it has to
be an advantage for the Eagles again, I know it

(09:28):
hasn't helped the Bills. I know it hasn't helped the Ravens.
I know it hasn't helped some of these teams that
can't seem to get over the hump against Philly. But
I do think that there will be a lack of fear, intimidation,
whatever you want to say, because they know how close
they were two years ago.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
They know it could have gone another way.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
I'm not saying that means that that's a reason to
pick them to win, but I do think having played
them has to be a factor.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
I think that's right, unless the fact that they lost
they come in with the wrong kind of energy and
find a way to make a few extra mistakes, trying
to do a little bit too much.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
To call that, you could pulling a buffalo, by the way,
but exactly right.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
It's about to say we just saw that happen. That's
the perfect that's exactly right. I think there's a difference
between being confident and being arrogant, or being confident and
being cocky. I think the Eagles come in confident, which
they should, they can win. I think they come in
cocky they probably lose because I don't think that plays
well against Andy Reid. I don't think it plays well

(10:26):
against Mahomes. I think they'll find ways to beat you
if you come out there with the wrong attitude, and
I think the Eagles have a tendency sometimes to play
on that line. Now, Sirianni is if Sirianni is part
of the kind of mental makeup of the team, as
teams often reflect their head coaches, then that's a line
that they kind of need to be delicate with. They

(10:48):
don't need to be habitual line steppers, as it were,
when it comes to being overly arrogant. This is a
Kansas City Chiefs. You have to have a healthy degree
of respect for them while being confident in your own
abilities to beat them. I do not think that you
come in there immaturely thinking that you're just so much
better than they are. I think that is how you

(11:10):
get beat because I think you can argue this, but
I think that if you look at the Chiefs during
this run, this playoff run, they've beaten teams that were
more talented than they were on the field. And that's
a thing that they've done consistently. And I don't know
how many times have we seen the new England Patriots
win a Super Bowl when they weren't the most talented
team on paper. As you said, the Eagles are clearly

(11:33):
to me the more talented team on paper if you
look at them in as a whole, as one unit
in totality. But you still better have a healthy respect
for those other guys because they've got a whole lot
of rings. And most of the guys on your team,
I don't know how many of guys were actually there,
if any, that were playing in Super Bowl fifty two
when they actually beat the Patriots, But you look at

(11:54):
it right now, you're still sitting there, Aj Brown, DeVante Smith,
Jay when Hurd, Saquon bar Barley, all those guys, You're
sitting there with no hardware on your on your fingertips.
So that needs to that needs to change. You got
to remember, those other guys are used to being in
this moment and if it's close late, that's exactly what
you don't want if you're Philadelphia, because last five minutes

(12:16):
of that game, there was nobody more deadly in the
history of the NFL than Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah, this is not a breaking news thing, but I
think everybody knows that if if you're gonna beat them,
you better be up pretty good because if Mahomes is
getting the ball back, you know, under five minutes to go,
under eight minutes to go trailing or ahead.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
You know, he could chew up.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
He could. He can chew up clock with the best
of them. But he can go down and score as well.
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Speaker 4 (12:48):
Pretty much of.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Wall to wall football, although we will mix in a
little bit of NBA because of course, there was a
little bit of an addendum to the Luke Lukadancich trade
that broke on air when we were on air last week.
So we'll get to here in a little bit. But
coming up, we will stay on this topic. We will
stay on the Super Bowl. We will bring in our
buddy Sean Brace, host on Fox Sports Radio. The Gambler

(13:09):
at Philadelphia had some big takes last time we joined us.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
He he's a very objective source. Just so you know,
if you didn't hear the first time he was on
a program, extremely objective as it relates to Philadelphia and
the Eagles.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
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Speaker 4 (14:32):
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Speaker 2 (14:35):
Time in Philadelphia, Fox Sports Radio, The Gambler And as
I told Jmark before he went to break cover your
ear swifties because he came after all of them before
the NFC and AFC Championship game, Sean brace, buddy, what's
going on man?

Speaker 4 (14:50):
How you doing?

Speaker 6 (14:52):
Gentlemen?

Speaker 7 (14:53):
One more sleep? Yes, it's finally here. Two straight weeks
of breaking this game down every which.

Speaker 6 (15:01):
Way possible exes.

Speaker 7 (15:03):
I feel like I'm in NFL films. The We've been
talking about this game for two weeks. So, yes, it's
finally here. Excited and I can't wait to see who's
at the top dog after it's all said and done.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
To Mom, you can't wait.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
You've guaranteed a victory over the Chiefs before the NFC two.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
What are you talking about? You can't wait to see
who comes out on top.

Speaker 6 (15:22):
You know you're right.

Speaker 7 (15:23):
I tried to be mister modest here. It's a little
late at night. Like I said, I'm delusional. I've been
talking about this game for.

Speaker 6 (15:28):
Two straight weeks.

Speaker 7 (15:29):
I'm ready to go. I'm telling you boys, the SmackDown
is coming. The Eagles are the better team. They're throwing
up forty tomorrow. National Radio forty spots Birds.

Speaker 6 (15:42):
Now here's the deal. Of course, we know how good
Mahomes is, we know how good Read is. We don't
know how good Spags are.

Speaker 7 (15:47):
So I'm not going to say a blowout, but the
Birds are not losing tomorrow.

Speaker 6 (15:50):
You're right.

Speaker 7 (15:50):
I did call that two weeks ago, so I got
to stick to my guns right here.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
All right. So, Sean, the question I asked off the
top of this show when Torres said, you know what's
your number one thing you're thinking about? I said, this
are the Philadelphia Eagles Tampa Bay Bucks? Like, because we
have seen this Chiefs team. We've seen this quarterback get
handled in a Super Bowl before by a top flight defense,

(16:15):
an outstanding quarterback that actually had weapons and a run game,
and Mahomes is running for his life almost three hundred
yards east and west, almost none of that was north
and south. Just a miserable night for him, like he
had no chance all night. Do you feel like the
Philadelphia Eagles are constructed similarly to that Bucks team that
gave the Chiefs so much trouble years ago?

Speaker 6 (16:36):
Absolutely? Now, we do know at the top of that list.

Speaker 7 (16:38):
In that Super Bowl they were hurting on the offensive line,
so yes, that's not happening here.

Speaker 6 (16:42):
But you're right, they did make Patrick mahomes life miserable
in that game. And these guys are very.

Speaker 7 (16:47):
Capable in the front line. Gione Carter is an absolute stud.
We know how good he is and the attention that
he gets. And it's no surprise Nolan Smith has had
I believe ten and a half sacks in his last
fifteen and a half games, I want to say completely
has turned it around, answered the calls and the guy
that we thought he was going to be when Howie
Rosman drafted him. Josh Sweat led the defense in sacks

(17:07):
eight and a half. Up front, Milton Williams fills in
really nicely great linebacker play, so yes, that's the ultimate goal.
And oh, by the way, guys, Mahomes five sacks this
whole postseason, running those two games three and the first
one two in the last one, so five total times
he's been taken down. So there's a little bit something
different there. I just feel like this Eagles defense is

(17:29):
that good we talked about up front with the linebacker play,
Kelsey's still going to get his but the difference is
for me is the secondary. Cooper Dejen Gwinyon, Mitchell, CJGJ,
Darius Slay. Those guys are going to be in the
back pockets of Hopkins, Hollywood brown Savi, You're worthy, whoever
you want to say.

Speaker 6 (17:48):
And I know it's easier.

Speaker 7 (17:50):
Said than done because Mahomes likes to extend it and
those receivers.

Speaker 6 (17:53):
Cross all day.

Speaker 7 (17:54):
But these guys are capable to hang on it. We're
talking about some serious athleticism.

Speaker 6 (17:58):
And oh, by the way, when Dijon, when.

Speaker 7 (18:00):
Degene got into the starting lineup and started seeing a
lot more playing time after that Tampa Bay game, that's
when the season changed. I don't think that's by by luck.
I think that's a serious reason why things have changed
for the better for this defense over the last what
twelve plus weeks.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
With that one Fox.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Sports Radio the Gamblers, Sean Brace is joining us. You
can hear Sean in Philly Monday through Friday, three to
six pm Eastern. Let me ask you another question we
kind of talked about to lead the show.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
Sean.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
It's weird because you know, like I asked J mart
I said, you know the fact that Philly has faced
Casey on this stage, right, like you think it's a positive,
But then Buffalo faces him on the stage every year,
can't get over the hump. San Francisco has not been
able to get over the hump twice.

Speaker 4 (18:47):
I may maybe it's.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Whatever I feel like Philly having been on this stage
two years ago, having basically gone toe to toe with
that team, I think it's a positive.

Speaker 4 (18:57):
Am I crazy for saying that?

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Like though nobody else has seemingly had success against Casey,
you know, in multiple appearances against them. Like, the one
thing I don't think is I don't think Philly in
any way, shape or form, is going to be intimidated
on Sunday night.

Speaker 6 (19:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (19:12):
No, you're right, And it's like you said, when you
have the experience, that's only going.

Speaker 6 (19:16):
To be a plus.

Speaker 7 (19:17):
And especially for guys like Jalen Hurtz, who you know,
I was his first start and up super Bowl, that's
a huge deal. So that's out of the way, Nick Sirianni,
the guy was crying. Sirianna was crying before the game
even started, all right, So hopefully we've gotten that out
of the way. But yeah, it's obvious that if you've
been able to play in this game before, the experience
is only going to help. But it's been interesting the

(19:39):
way you put it, though, Aaron, because look, as I said,
the bravado, the confidence has an all time high right
here at Seagos team.

Speaker 6 (19:46):
But I'm no fool.

Speaker 7 (19:47):
The Chiefs are that good and it's it's no surprise
that they're in this spot again. And it starts with Look,
Mahomes is the guy, but like Andy Reid is a
heck of a play caller.

Speaker 6 (19:58):
He knows what the single out.

Speaker 7 (19:59):
So you know, from the standpoint of the offensive side
of the ball with Kansas City, I think that they're
going to try and find Reid blank and ship one
on one at the top and see if they can
exploit him some way, somehow with like a deep bomb.
They're like Worthy or Hollywood Brown. But they're just gonna
have to do so much because I just don't see
the Kansaity Chiefs defense being able to slow down Saquon Barkley.

(20:20):
And you know, this is his first opportunity on the
national stage, his first time playing in the Super Bowl.
Big time players make big time plays, man, big time
games doesn't get any bigger.

Speaker 6 (20:30):
Than this with saque behind the offensive line, So.

Speaker 7 (20:32):
Joe's been there, done that, Sirianni too. Callum board just
got announced.

Speaker 6 (20:37):
Apparently he's taken the gig. That's good. That's good. That's
been in the work for a couple of weeks.

Speaker 7 (20:40):
Now, we're not worried about that one.

Speaker 6 (20:42):
In the offense Redded Royal tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Okay, well you said that you're not worried about that.
So hopefully Moore is ready and he isn't already thinking about,
you know, staying in New Orleans after the Super Bowl
to go ahead and coach the Saints. But let's take
you to a place you don't want to go. If
the Chiefs are to beat Philadelphia, what's the most likely
reason why.

Speaker 7 (21:08):
I hate to sound cliche, but it's got to be turnovers, right,
It's got to be exotic looks bags cook something up.
He's a heck of a defensive mind. It's been in
what twenty four starts as a defensive coordinator has yet
to give up one hundred yard rusher, I believe.

Speaker 6 (21:24):
So it would start for me with Steve.

Speaker 7 (21:27):
Spagnola cooking up some exotic blitz, is getting after jail
and hurts, forcing a couple like a fumble an interception,
and that ultimately will be the difference in the game, right,
like if it is close, if it's a one score game,
which Kansasity finds them himselves in more times than not,
and they come out on top. Look at the last
time in fifty seven it was a drop ball taken
for a touchdown that was ultimately the difference.

Speaker 6 (21:48):
In the game three point score.

Speaker 7 (21:50):
So it starts and end with turnovers for me, You're
exactly right. Look, it's cliche, but it's the truth. And
if the Eagles take care of the football true up clock,
stick to bread and butter, Sakauon Barkley off of the line.
It's what got you there. You know, allowed ge On
to make some plays with his numbers called upon, but
it starting ends with that offensive line and take one.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Sean Brace is joining us Fox Sports Radio. You can
hear Sean three to six Eastern Fox Sports Radio, The
Gambler and Philly. Make sure to follow him on Twitter
at Sean Sea n Underscore Brace. I'm gonna kind of
basically do the same thing that Jamart did, but in
a slightly different direction. Is the obvious game plan to
slow down Philadelphia when they have the ball is you know,

(22:31):
limit Saquon Barkley, But that has literally been the game
plan for sixteen. Yeah, what is eighteen of the last
nineteen weeks if you take out the week eighteen game
that he set out. So like, one, you know, Spagnola,
as you said, is as good of a defensive mind
as we have.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
But two, do you.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Believe that just Philadelphia will be able to kind of
do what they've been able to do all season long?
Because again, if it was so easy to slow down Saquon,
everybody would do it.

Speaker 7 (22:56):
Yeah. Look they stick to it, right, they don't bail
And why would you when Sakuon Barkley is that good
and they chew up the clock better than most in
the fourth quarter, and that's when they won a lot
of games.

Speaker 6 (23:08):
I'm saying that, I'm not saying that that's going to
take place.

Speaker 7 (23:11):
Tomorrow, but that is the recipe for success. You know,
just get the ball in Saquon, chew up the clock,
move the move the sticks, and next thing you know,
you're running four to six to eight minutes off the
clock and the game ends right like that's ultimately what
you want to do is control the line of scrimmage
and of course, do not turn the football over so
it goes hand in hand. I don't see them stopping Saquon.

Speaker 6 (23:34):
I think like Saquon could be held.

Speaker 7 (23:36):
And you know, and it's like, it's so funny because
the bar is so high for him that if he
goes for a buckle five and a touchdown, it's almost.

Speaker 6 (23:43):
Like a bad day at the office for him.

Speaker 7 (23:44):
But you know, that's a pretty darn good day for any.

Speaker 6 (23:47):
Running back out there.

Speaker 7 (23:48):
So I do believe it will probably be somewhere in
that mark. I don't think he's going to go off,
but all it.

Speaker 6 (23:53):
Takes is won. I mean, the opening play.

Speaker 7 (23:55):
Against the Commander sixty yards to the house, so that's
all it needs. He's a home run hit her, really
tough to contain, really tough to stop.

Speaker 6 (24:02):
So we'll see, we'll see.

Speaker 7 (24:04):
But this offense as a whole is ready for battle.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Yeah, I mean, I think that's a good point. And
I was thinking the same thing. He's a guy that
can have thirteen carries for forty six yards and then
you look up and he has seventeen carries for one
hundred and ninety five yards because he just has big
tom chunks and it's only going to take a few
of those to have those Super Bowl moments to win
the game. Are you concerned at all? And is your
audience that you've chatted with since this matchup was finalized,

(24:31):
are they worried concerned at all about Sirianni in crucial
moments if it comes down to coaching decisions or common sense.

Speaker 6 (24:40):
You know, it's interesting. He's gotten better, he has improved.

Speaker 7 (24:42):
And I told you guys last time I was on,
if you had to, if I had to check a
box whether I'm a Sirianni guy or not, you would
check the box that I'm not. But he has proved
me wrong all season. Since the Tampa Bay loss, he's
turned it around. He's got him into another super Bowl
two times in four years. He took your cap. Look,
he's aggressive, he's consistent with that.

Speaker 6 (25:02):
They have a staying down.

Speaker 7 (25:03):
There at the Noblecare Complex, which I just found out
last week. It's first to nine. That's how they go
about their businesses.

Speaker 6 (25:10):
First and nine.

Speaker 7 (25:11):
It's almost just like it's a guarantee that we're going
to go for it every time on fourth down, fourth
and one, fourth and two, whatever it may be. But
as long as he sticks to that and doesn't change
and just.

Speaker 6 (25:21):
Stays consistent stays to what.

Speaker 7 (25:23):
Got him here, and then on the other side of
that too, is almost taking it out of Jake Elliot Tans.
As far as the field goal kicker, who hasn't been
the best this year, he has been super consistent over
his career.

Speaker 6 (25:37):
With the Eagles.

Speaker 7 (25:37):
To this year just wasn't happening in those fifty yard
field goals.

Speaker 6 (25:41):
They weren't really confident marching them out there.

Speaker 7 (25:43):
And it's really nice when you're able to pick up
those tough fourth downs, fourth and one, fourth and two
and not march out the kicker. So taking that out
of his hands, stay consistent.

Speaker 6 (25:53):
I think even Sirianty can't screw this one up.

Speaker 7 (25:56):
That's how good the offense is and that's why the
Eagles are playing in Super Bowl fifty nine.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Sean last one for me and I am gonna switch gears.
A little bit of Sean Brayce, Fox Sports Radio, The
Gambler and Philly joining us one.

Speaker 4 (26:08):
You know we are we are live.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Here in Los Angeles. Can you give us the quick
rundown on Philadelphia sports legend Ben Simmons.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
A serious basketball topic. I know you love the NBA.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
J Mart and I were on air when the Luka
Doncicz trade happened at this time last week? What was
your your basketball dude, you're a junkie, like what has
been I know you probably haven't talked about it much
with the Eagles in the Super Bowl, But what has
your reaction been to what was the craziest trade? I
don't think it'shype of hyperbole. It might have been the
craziest trade sports history.

Speaker 8 (26:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (26:45):
Look, it was the first time in NBA history two.

Speaker 7 (26:48):
Reigning All pros were traded at mid season. And that
tells you all you need to know. There's historical, historical
preference for you right there. So that's number one. But
my favorite thing today was the protest down there for
Nico Harrison lose his job and they were chanting the
Mavericks fans outside their arena, he's not fat, bring them back.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
That's so good.

Speaker 6 (27:09):
That's just poetry.

Speaker 7 (27:10):
That's why we're sports fans right there, right there, He's
not fat, bring them back.

Speaker 6 (27:15):
You know.

Speaker 7 (27:15):
Look, I still have no idea how to heck it
went down, why it went down. You can't convince me
that they're a better team now. The odds shifted from
nine to one to sixteen to one. With the addition
of Anthony Davis. Luca's been in these league five years,
all pro like, we know what he has. As far
as the status is concerned, it's just it's shocking. The
conspiracy theories have me intrigued, like with Nico being involved

(27:39):
with Kobe and you know, possibly the Lakers deal with that.
So and he's the fact he didn't fuck to Jason
Kidd and they're sitting down with the press conference, He's like, hey, we.

Speaker 6 (27:49):
Might not be here for three years.

Speaker 7 (27:51):
You know. It's just like, all right, what's going on here?
But Luca's incredible that Jersey does look pretty nice. As
far as the Purple and Gold is concerned, I think
he's going to absolutely rip it up, if not this.

Speaker 6 (28:02):
Year, moving forward and put the team together.

Speaker 7 (28:05):
Really cool stuff, exciting stuff. Ben Simmons on the other side,
he just needs to go to Australia and finish his
playing day.

Speaker 6 (28:12):
Just give it up. Then give it up.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
He's already stolen a lot of money in the NBA.
He didn't have to go play anywhere at this point.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
He doesn't play here either, But that's another.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
Good right, right, So, Nick Sirianni, you talked about him
crying and hopefully getting that out and not doing it again.
What's more likely Nick Sirianni cries during the anthem tomorrow
or Chris Jones does. Because Chris Jones cries during the
anthem all the time, they catch it on camera repeatedly,
so there could be waterworks on both sides between head

(28:43):
coach of the Philadelphia Eagles and first ballot soon to
be Hall of Famer Chris Jones.

Speaker 7 (28:48):
A good old fashioned cryoff. Yeah, that's what we want
to see in the Super Bowl to kick things up.

Speaker 6 (28:53):
No, you're right, Chris Jones out.

Speaker 7 (28:55):
The waterworks are always wrong with him, like Niagara Falls.

Speaker 6 (28:58):
No matter what.

Speaker 7 (29:00):
Look, my man shaved his head. He's done barking at fans.
It seems like he's getting along with the quarterback as
of late, and he's just slid into this position right.

Speaker 6 (29:09):
Now that he's a leader. So I don't know. Look
I'm not I'm a softie. I go watch movies and
tears come down my eyes.

Speaker 7 (29:15):
So I don't want to rip the man for crying,
which was an epic epic national anthem. Chris Stapleton, I mean,
Boys of God, come on, So yeah, if you're gonna cry,
for a national anthem.

Speaker 6 (29:25):
It's because of him.

Speaker 7 (29:26):
But hopefully he got that out of his way, shaved
up the head nice, and he's ready to go for tomorrow.

Speaker 6 (29:31):
All right.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
So you said last you said, you said you're a
guy that cries the movies. What's the last movie you
cried aut.

Speaker 7 (29:37):
Oh, man, that's a good question.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
Barbie kind of think if it's Pixar, he probably got me.

Speaker 6 (29:47):
I tell you the.

Speaker 7 (29:49):
I'm drawing a blank as far any war movies. Those
movies always yet me. I always get sad over that.

Speaker 6 (29:55):
Trying to think though, nothing really as of late at
this point in time. But I am a soft he
trust me. Cry over an Apple commercial during Christmas.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
Time, well you might cry if the Chiefs win. I
could see that potentially doing it.

Speaker 6 (30:06):
So whow Yeah, that would be tough. I'm telling you,
that's gonna be really tough.

Speaker 7 (30:09):
And they're talking about five inches of snow coming here
in PA on Tuesday, so we got to have a celebration.
We're gonna be getting hit with five inches of snow.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Well, I will say I was on air for the
Luca Trade last week. It was one of the most
shocking things I've ever seen. I was also on air
when Ben Simmons passed open a wide open layup in
Game seven, tell us up, that's worth crying over. That
was probably it. But Sean Brace, Fox Sports Radio The Gambler,
we got to run thirty seconds final score in Philly.

(30:39):
We know you like Philly, but what do you think
the final score is?

Speaker 6 (30:41):
I think the Birds so forty plus.

Speaker 7 (30:43):
I think they smack them. They're a better football team.
They're gonna show it tomorrow. I think they score forty.
I'm having a hard time penning the Chiefs down and
saying that they don't get to thirty. But I'll go
for the national audience eighteen and I'll say forty one
twenty seven Birds on top.

Speaker 4 (31:02):
Wow, I'll tell you what that would be.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
At least it would be an entertaining game I had
the only other time we're having my in laws over more.
The only other time that I had them over they
don't like football was like the nine to six Rams
Patriots Super Bowl and they I think they swore off
football after that. So we're having them tomorrow. So I'm
hoping for forty one to twenty seven will be more entertained.

Speaker 7 (31:23):
Fireworks fireworks down on Bourbon Street.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
I was gonna say, there's gonna be some fireworks at
Philly if they put up forty one. But show we
gotta run, man, we gotta get to our update. Thank
you so much. Fox Sports Radio The Gambler in Philly
Monday through Friday, three to six Eastern time. Uh, you're
gonna want to listen every day, but you're certainly gonna
want to listen Monday one way or the other. There's
gonna be a lot to discuss, so sewn man, we
always appreciate the time. We'll talk soon, brother.

Speaker 7 (31:48):
Okay, oh man, I can't thank you guys, and I
appreciate it as always.

Speaker 6 (31:52):
Enjoy the game, all right.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
That was Sean Brace Fox Sports Radio The Gambler. You
can listen Monday through Friday, three to six Eastern Sean
underscore Brace on Twitter.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
Let's not waste any more time. We're running late. Over
to the news desk to sag or give us your update.

Speaker 9 (32:06):
My friend, you mentioned the lowest Super Bowl ever, as
far as lowest score ever, that's tough.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
I looked it up.

Speaker 9 (32:12):
It was three to three mid fourth quarter Patriots and
ram My.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Bron floor as Bill Belichick defense.

Speaker 9 (32:18):
Belichick completely out coach McVeigh in that game thirteen three.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
Fine.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
My in laws, who are not from America don't like football,
and that was a tough sell on why you should
like to sport.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
When a Super Bowl score ends and it could have
been an actual football, like European football score, that's no good.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
We had in the offseason.

Speaker 9 (32:37):
We had people visiting from Sweden once and they were
showing an old game on ESPN Classic at the time,
a Brett Favre game, and I'm trying to explain the game,
and halfway through the explanation they said, wait, this isn't
happening right now, just watching your tape.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
That kind of ruined it for them.

Speaker 9 (32:55):
Well, we do, have, of course, a Super Bowl on
Fox TV tomorrow with the Eagles and the Chiefs, and yes,
Kellen Moore's due to meet again with the Saints after
the Super Bowl. Currently Eagles offensive coordinator apparently the Saints
head coaching job is his to have the Eagles activated
defensive end Brandon Graham. He had triceps surgery in November.
The Lakers trade tonight for Charlotte center Mark Williams was

(33:17):
rescinded he failed his physical, so the Lakers are without
a big man for the rest of the season unless
they poof magically can come up with one. Lakers did
beat Indiana in LA today one twenty four one seventeen
Austin Reeves forty five points. Luka Doncic could debut for
LA on Monday. Lebron James was out today with a
sore ankle. In Dallas, the MAVs debut of Anthony Davis

(33:39):
in a win over Houston. He had twenty six points
sixteen rebounds. Left with an apparent abdominal injury. He said
it was growing tightness and he says it's not serious.
Denver won at sixth in a row. Boston destroyed New York,
Golden State won at Chicago. Jimmy Butler, now with the Warriors,
had twenty five points. Orlando edge San Antonio. In college basketball,
Number three Alabama a winner tonight at Arkansas eighty five

(34:02):
eighty one, and the top two each lost. Number one
Auburn was beaten at home by Florida ninety to eighty one.
Number two Duke lost at Clemson tonight seventy seven seventy one,
and in a women's top ten game, USC over Ohio
State eighty four to sixty three.

Speaker 4 (34:17):
Back to you. Thank you very much, Steve Seger.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
This is Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday, Ertors Jason
Martin broadcasting live from the tire rack dot Com studios.
We will come back wrap our one. A lot of football,
but something happened in basketball. Shaking my head as the
kids say, s mh, what is going on with this league?

Speaker 4 (34:37):
Will discuss that next Fox Sports thirty.

Speaker 1 (34:42):

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Ertorius, Jason Martin broadcasting
live from the ti rack dot Com studios. Under twenty
four hours until the Super Bowl. As always, Fox Sports
Radio has you covered wall to wall. Arnie Spaniel, Chris
Plank will be on during the game Sunday, jmart we'll
get back to the NFL here in just a few minutes.

(35:06):
By the way, Dan Byer will join us live from
New Orleans to give us an on the ground idea
of what New Orleans is like and you know, just
everything going on in that city this week. Really quickly,
I thought there was something that was pretty interesting today,
this being Saturday, not related to the NFL. Came from
the NBA. So we've said it a few times. You

(35:29):
and I were on air during that crazy Luca trade.
You know, we spend a lot of time kind of
breaking it down, trying to figure it out whatever.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
And I only bring it up because.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
ESPN today Saturday basically rearrange their entire programming schedule to
broadcast Lakers Pelicans from you know, Crypto dot com Marine.
I was gonna call it Staple Center, but Crypto dot Com.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
To you know, to play. I'll say this, like the NBA,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
How many really truly important regular season games there are,
but Luka Dotc's debut for the Lakers is just that.

Speaker 6 (36:05):
Well.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
I bring it up because they rescheduled the whole day
of programming and not only did Luca dog just not play,
Lebron James didn't either. Now, I want to be fair
and say that, yes, I get that, you know, you
don't want guys playing injured, but I do also think
it's a metaphor for the NBA where they're trying to

(36:26):
have this moment. It's a Saturday afternoon whatever, and neither
superstar plays. Just you know, we sit here and we
try to break down what is wrong with the NBA?

Speaker 4 (36:37):
What what?

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Why are the ratings tanking? I just think this is
a perfect metaphor for exactly that.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
Yeah, I mean, and again it is important to mention
the injury, and you know, Luca had been hurt prior
to the trade and all those things, and that ultimately
has to be the most important factor. But the problem
is the NBA just does this a lot when they
don't have to, and so even if this is legitimate,
it's kind of hard to take it at face value,

(37:05):
at least without an eye roll, because I think the
important thing about this being a Saturday, like you mentioned,
is I mean, they would have owned it. There's no football,
There's nothing else happening. I mean, there were some good
college basketball matchups, don't get me wrong, but this is
the perfect day to do this debut. Is the day
before the Super Bowl. You're obviously gonna have no audience tomorrow,
but this is if anybody is trying to watch sports today, oh,

(37:26):
it's gonna be Luca and Lebron on day one. And
I think it's this like the fact that you rescheduled
all the programming and made it so that this thing
could be a feature and it doesn't happen. It's just
kind of like, how soon could you have told somebody this,
to have made sure that the NBA didn't get caught
with their pants down in this situation, because again, it

(37:50):
comes across badly, Like Paul George. We didn't get to
talk to Sean Brace about this but two weeks ago
or whatever when he was in the press conference and
he said, I'm bored of playing because he's being asked
to play center. He's being asked to play center, he's
undersize because the injury to Embiid. He's bored is playing
the five because it doesn't give him enough opportunity to

(38:11):
shoot the ball, even though he's shooting the lowest percentage
of his entire career since being in Philadelphia. But like
it's bad, and it's a snippet that comes across bad,
and this kind of thing happens all the time. I
don't know how many the shots of Kawhi Leonard playing
are less prevalent than the shots of him looking sort
of nonplused on the sidelines, like not very interested in

(38:32):
what's going on, just kind of almost halfway checked out.
And I think that's the perception from a lot of
people about this. And I sent you this text in
regard to all this man, we can't care more about
your league than you do, and we just can't. Like
if it comes across like your money's guaranteed, it doesn't
matter right now, there's still a lot to go. We'll

(38:54):
turn it on on the playoffs. Like then, I can't
care either, Like it's more the trade deadline and the
moves that were or more exciting than anything that's gonna
happen from them on the floor. And that is a
massive problem because you had an opportunity for this to
really be big and you found a way to blow it,
disappoint people and disappoint your television partners all at the

(39:16):
same time. It's just a bad look for a league
that's full of bad looks.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Yeah, and you know, it's funny that you reference Paul
George's comments because they're on the heels of an all
seriousness Ben Simmons getting traded today, don't you know, don't
know the last relevant moment that he's had in a
positive way, and on the heels of Jimmy Butler basically
refusing to play while getting paid fifty million dollars a year.
So Luca and Lebron out on Saturday. Not a good

(39:41):
look for the League in a game that I listened.
Even as a not a huge NBA guy, I would
have tuned in for that one. But it's all for not.
Fox Sports Radio Air towards Jason Martin, broadcasting live from
the tireck dot com studios. Let's come back talk a
little bit more Luca, a little bit more Lakers plus
Dan Byer from New Orleans.

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Central time here in an hour. But jmart we talked
a lot about the Super Bowl. We're gonna come back
with some Super Bowl stuff here in just a moment.
Dan Byro will be joining us live from New Orleans.
For all sorts of you know interesting conversation about the
scene and all of that. I do want to ask you, jmart,
I do want to switch gears. And obviously tonight's not

(40:56):
the night to talk a ton of NBA. But the
SEGA did just bring up a very hurry, very important
news item from the association. We talked a little bit
a minute ago about the Lakers game today. We're expecting
Luca's debut. He doesn't play, Lebron doesn't play, but we
thought in addition to the Luca trade, it was a
great week for the Lakers, who did trade for Mark

(41:16):
Williams from the Charlotte Hornets, averaging I didn't even realize
he was playing this well until the trade happened, averaging
sixteen points nine rebounds this season, as well as close
to a block and a half on the year. Well,
I bring it up because, as the SEGRE just told you,
the trade has officially been next per ESPN, per Shams Gerania,
it appears as though Mark Williams has failed a physical,

(41:40):
and so I bring it up because you know, Luca's
really good, Lebron's really good, but Mark Williams was going
to be a key component to basically providing the rint
protection that basically walked out the door and Anthony Davis left.
What do you make of this move? In what do
you make of this situation? Really, it's not a move.
It's just a thing that happened, especially relative to the

(42:01):
news that we were on air for last week with
the Luca Dodge strait.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
Look, it's not good for the Lakers at all. I mean,
I like Dalton Connect a lot, and I like to
pick when they made it, But you don't need him
with Luca, Like you could understand why you would use
him as a piece. He somebody would value that. You know,
it can do something somewhere else if need be. But
you think about, you know, the pick swaps and all

(42:26):
this other stuff. But the key here is who's going
to play center for the Lakers. Like this was a
seven footer. You listed his stats there. This was a
team that was counting on that to kind of, you know,
soften the loss of Davis from the defensive side, because
we already talked about the defensive woes of this Lakers
team when it comes to I mean, Lebron's getting a

(42:47):
little bit older, so he's not always playing top strength
on the defensive side of the ball. Luca. I'm not
sure if he can spell defense as of yet. That's
not really his style. He's not there to be a
you know, top flight, lockdown kind of defender. But then
you look at the rest of that team and they're
all more offensive minded. So Mark Williams was supposed to

(43:09):
come in, be the size, be the big in the middle.
They could block a couple shots a game that would
again hit the glass hard, get your rebounds, do all
of that, do a lot of the dirty work, do
a lot of the blue collar work. And to not
get him, and now the trade deadlines passed, what are
you gonna do? Like it seems like to me, you're

(43:30):
now gonna see a team that doesn't have a true center,
that's gonna be playing very small ball and incomplete basketball
for the rest of the season. Now, if you didn't
think they were contenders anyway, you know, they can try
to address this in the offseason, They can address this
in the draft, they can figure something out perhaps for
the future. But immediately, this is a big problem because

(43:52):
what you thought you had pulled off to sort of
round out your move with Luca is not there now,
and you have a big glaring issue in the center
of your team.

Speaker 4 (44:05):
Yeah, it's funny.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
I remember, you know, we were on last week and
know I've said it a million times, but we did
have Mark Medina on. I believe it was the one
am Eastern window of the show to really help us
break it all down. And I remember asking him, I said,
you know, does I really said?

Speaker 4 (44:20):
I said, really? Two parts?

Speaker 2 (44:21):
I said, does this actually make the Lakers more of
a contender right now? And if not, are they basically
waving the white flag on this season? Because I said,
in my head, I said, Luca and Lebron are really
good and you know whatever, But there is a defensive
component to it. We heard Nico Harrison's comments this week
about defense wins championships all that, and so I either

(44:44):
thought that it was weird to say the least, even
if it might work, or that there was another move coming.

Speaker 4 (44:50):
So I'm with you in that. Listen.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
You know we've seen this a million times in the NBA,
is that there's trades or free agent signings or whatever
that look really cool on paper and then but you
actually like do the basketball, uh, you know, analysis of
style and fit and everything, and it rarely works out.
And there's a million examples of that. We don't, you know,

(45:13):
pick any trade from the last seven eight years. Most
of them they look cool on paper, they don't actually
work out well.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
I mean, look at the I mean look at the Durant,
that whole move and everything that's happened in Phoenix. We
talked about it at the time when they lost, when
they lost Bridges in the movies, like who's going to
play defense for them?

Speaker 4 (45:31):
Great call?

Speaker 3 (45:32):
And it was like Durant and obviously to Booker, and
then you bring in Bradley Beal and none of it
worked because they all do the exact same thing, and
it's still left the exact same problem that you created
by getting rid of your you know, tough nose guys defensively.

Speaker 4 (45:49):
Now that's actually the perfect example.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
And now we see, oh, by the way, the Phoenix
Sugs are considering or they were considering trading Kevin Durant.
I do want to kind of keep this conversation going,
but I just want to talk Luca for half a
second here. You know, you and I were on air.
I know I keep saying it. I apologize to the
audience has been with us.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
It was exciting, like it was crazy. We all thought
we were hoaxed. Yeah, the whole world thought they were hoaxed.
It wasn't. It was. It was a lot of fun.
So I mean, yeah, I will give you some grace
for mentioning it every five seconds because it was kind
of it was just so awesome that we were able
to react instantly to it.

Speaker 4 (46:25):
No doubt.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
And and so, but what where I wanted to go
with that, because I've already said it one hundred times,
is that I do think you and I one listen America,
As you just said, the world was caught off guard
by that trade. But then you and I, in real
time are trying to figure out, Okay, what's really going
on here, like like, you know, was there a trade demand?
Was Luca unhappy?

Speaker 3 (46:47):
Was you know? Is there?

Speaker 2 (46:49):
You know whatever, We're just trying to figure it out
in real time. Then the day after comes and you
start to hear all different sorts of philosophies, of theories.
You know, I've heard Colin Cowhard, our buddy, say that
that it came from above, Nico Harrison. They didn't want
to you know, basically Luca, you know, his fitness, et cetera.
Did they want to pay him the Supermax which was
basically gonna be you know, three hundred and fifty to

(47:10):
four hundred million, whatever.

Speaker 4 (47:11):
It ends up being.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
You know, you hear other stuff, and you know, obviously
I think a lot of people have seen that internet
you know theory that basically the Atolsons are trying to
the atl Sins are the people, by the way, who
bought the majority stake of the team from Mark Cuban,
and they're trying to build a new arena, and they're
trying to build a complex around it, and they're not

(47:33):
getting the legislative support, and so basically are they trying
to make the team so bad that they can leave
a lah major league? The movie, and so I just
bring it up now that we've had a week to
kind of just break it down and just really think
about it. Do you think there's anything like do you
think that the Mavericks really think that defense wins championships

(47:54):
and Lucas never gonna get them over the top, and oh,
by the way, this is a guy that led them
to the final literally last year. Do you think there's
something else fishy going on? Do you think this is
just a bad trade? Now that you've had ti a
week to swallow and digest it. What do you actually
think about now that it's official, we know that it's
not a hoax or anything like that, I.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
Am more open to the idea that something's wrong here.
That's what I would say if it turned out that
this story ended up being some giant documentary down the
road that led to fraud charges or you know, banishment from.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
The league you investigated, right right, right, I.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
Would not be surprised because it doesn't. It still doesn't
make sense to me. And you know, I've watched a
lot of videos, and I've looked at a lot of
you know, articles and all this kind of stuff. No
one's been able to make sense of this from a
from a perspective that satisfies me. It just doesn't. It
doesn't work. I understand the arguments for Luca's conditioning and

(48:55):
all this other kind of stuff. Dude took you to
the finals last year. He's been a team or five
year first team All NBA player. He's not twenty or
I guess he's twenty six now or whatever. But I mean,
dude is still He's got his best basketball still left
to be played in his career. You're telling me you
can't work with attitude. You can't work with a guy

(49:18):
that maybe is a little bit briskly or somebody that
you wish was a little bit more committed here and there.
I mean, come on, if you're good enough, you're supposed
to be able to get away with that kind of stuff,
Right Like, why did you put up with Aaron Rodgers garbage?
Because Aaron Rodgers delivered for you on the field if
you were the Green Bay Packers. Why is he probably
not going to be getting away with that in New
York because he doesn't have that ability anymore. You can

(49:41):
do a whole lot if you're talented enough. You can
get away with a whole lot if you're talented enough. Luka,
Doncic is talented enough that he should have been able
to get away with whatever he wanted for a long time,
because he's the reason the Mavericks are selling tickets. It's
a market that loved him, and it's a market the
guy used to having a star that's stuck around there

(50:02):
his entire career. In Dirk Noovitchky, I mean, you had
the jerseys, you had all this. All you have to
do is look at the reaction from the fan base.
The protests, the signs, all of that outside the arena,
towards the ownership, towards Niko the general manager, to let
you know, it's just like if you're Adam Silver, you

(50:25):
have to be in your office like what happened here,
because this is bad for the league. I mean, I understand,
like long term the Lakers being important and having a future,
I get all that, but this is bad when it's
like there is a fan base that absolutely positively would
have if they had any way to stop this, would

(50:46):
have done so, and yet it goes through. And here's
the reason why I'm more open to the idea that
there was something more here, erin, and I'll give it
back to you because I'm curious your thoughts. The idea
that they just called the Lakers. They didn't shop Luca around,
They didn't talk to a bunch of other teams in
the league where they could easily could have gotten a

(51:07):
better deal. I think. I mean, was it Michael Bridges
got five first round picks or something like that. You
look at what go Bear got when he went to Minnesota,
for example, and all this stuff, like you're telling me
that's all you could get. You couldn't even get both
first round picks from the Lakers in twenty thirty. You
can only get one of their two picks for one

(51:28):
of the top five players in the NBA. Full stop.
Like there's again, maybe it is just a bad trade,
and maybe the Lakers just fortune, you know, just fell
right on them. But if this turned out to be
something else, I think that's where I'll stick. If this
turned out to be more, I would not be the
least bit surprised.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
So all I will say is I think that last
part to me is again now having a week to
process it is I'm not a big conspiracy theory guy,
but I will say exactly what you did said, you
have a top five player in the league that just
led you to the NBA finals last year, right, and
we talked, We did talk about this part in real
time last week.

Speaker 4 (52:09):
Is like teams as a franchise.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Wait thirty forty fifty years to draft a guy like Luca.
I mean, you know, I can't think of a team
like the Charlotte Hornet's perfect. They've been waiting their entire
existence since they came back as a team to have
a guy like Luca, and they haven't, you know, And
so whoever. I mean, I can't think of whatever the

(52:32):
point I'm trying to make you wait generations to draft
a player like Luca. There was no trade demand, there
was no you know, off the court incident, whatever, and
it just it does.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
And he's just.

Speaker 4 (52:46):
Entering his prime and he just led you to the finals.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
It's one thing if it's a really talented player, and
even at that age it would be a little ridiculous
twenty five going on twenty six. Oh, he hasn't gotten
over the hump. Okay, most superstars don't. But he just
led you the finals. And I think that's the part
to me that I keep going back to is one
that he just like he you wait generations to get

(53:09):
a player like this.

Speaker 4 (53:10):
He was leading you at the highest level.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
Even if he's not maybe a great, you know, emotional leader,
he's a great leader on the court. And then two
as importantly or three, I guess it would be as
importantly is there was I would I would struggle to
think of a player even close to as good as
Luca where there wasn't even discussion, like even like when

(53:33):
Kevin Durant has demanded a trade or whoever, Like there's
other teams involved, you know, like you know, I can't
think of a perfect examit, but whatever, so the fact
that you did it under the cloak of darkness, now
I will say, if you're looking for non conspiracy theory,
you know I could see you know what Colin said.
You know, Colin insinuated basically that it came from above Manage,

(53:55):
it came from above Nico Harrison, and he basically was told,
you gotta trade this guy. We don't want to give
super Max for close to four hundred million. Okay, I
can buy that because there's no other explanation for trading
a guy this young, this talented and not having the
open market. And so to me, that's the part that
trips me up. A superstar under the eight twenty five

(54:18):
right now going on twenty six, as you said, and
there's no Hey, let's at least see what we could
get for him, unless you believe that Kyrie and A
to eighty guarantee you a trip to a return trip
to the finals, which I don't believe. I just I
don't get it, and I'll rap because I know I'm
going along here. I'll just wrap by saying this, you

(54:38):
know how I know that I have a pretty good
feel that this was you know whatever, is that Nico
Harrison didn't tell anybody? And then, as Sean Brace referenced
about an hour ago, is that, uh, when you could
tell just by watching the press conference that Jason Kidd
had no idea that this was coming, and Jason Kid
looked like he was at a funeral. So that I

(54:59):
took it seven to directions. I apologize for going so long.
You take it whatever direction you want, But that's what
sticks out to me of if you want to believe
there's a conspiracy theory, I can actually believe.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
It all you know right exactly? And all I will
say is it relates to the Supermax extension and it
coming from above? Is this? If that's true? And I'm
a Mavericks fan, I guess how am I supposed to
follow that team anymore? Because let's say that's accurate that
the ownership said, we don't want to pay this guy
that kind of money, who are you going to pay?

(55:29):
Then if you're not going to pay Luka Doncic, who
exactly are you going to pay that kind of money too?
So you're just telling me, if you get somebody good enough,
they could command that kind of money, we got to
get them out of town. Like, if that's the case,
then I can't be a mass fan anymore because the
ownership is telling me that they're actually not in it
to win it. They're not actually going to fund what

(55:50):
they need to fund. I mean, I was trying to
think of what would have been a comparison to this happening,
and this is what came to me. If the Houston
Rockets had traded James Harden off his MVP season and
you know the ones we had, the fifty seemingly every
night and all this kind of stuff, if they had
traded him coming off of that.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
For Jim Mard.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
You can name the player, it doesn't even matter.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
I got it for you because I actually looked this
up in real time. Okay, So in two thousand and one,
fresh off of leading Philadelphia to the NBA Finals and
stepping over Tylo, Alan Iverson was twenty six that offseason. Like,
imagine Allan Iverson under the cloak of darkness, traded a

(56:36):
year after basically single handedly taking Luca to the finals.
Because I spent all week too trying to figure out
is there an equivalent that's pretty close?

Speaker 4 (56:45):
Twenty six years old.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
He was basically I mean, he was basically the franchise,
and if that had happened, we would have been like, no,
there's no explanation, that's justifiable.

Speaker 4 (56:54):
There's no excuses. I don't you know, I don't know
who the equivalent of Anthony Davis was back in that era.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
But it's like, imagine the Philadelphia seventy six ers trading
Allen Iverson the year after leading Philadelphia to the finals.
We would have said it was dumb and crazy in
the moment, no different than we're saying the same thing
about Luca Now.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
Yeah, look, and I think it's a good one because again,
that was a guy where practice were talking about practice,
and we had, like we had some off the court
stuff that might have made him harder to deal with
inside the front office. So you got the same thing
with Luke. At least that's the storyline that you're getting
from all these other kinds of things. I think another
example would be trading Dwight Howard after they lost to

(57:31):
the Lakers. Great call when he was in Orlando. It's
just it doesn't pass the smell test. Like I said,
it may be a legitimate trade. I'm not out here
calling it fraud. I'm saying that if we're doing a
show six months from now after a bunch of stuff
has been unearthed that we didn't know about, I'm not
going to be shocked if we're doing that show and

(57:52):
we can pull this audio then, because I think we're
both on the same page. It's like, we're not calling
it fraud. We're not saying this conspiracy or anything else.
We're just saying we can understand where some of those
thoughts are coming from. And if it turns out that
that's the case, Oh okay, well yeah that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
That's exactly how I feel, is I I'm you said
it perfectly. I'm not saying it is fraud, but I
but if something comes out I wouldn't be totally surprised either.
Fox Sports Radio er tors Jason Martin, we are broadcasting
live from the tirerac dot Com studios.

Speaker 4 (58:22):
Will come back. Know somebody who's not a fraud.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
Dan Byer, He'll join us from New Orleans to give
us the perspective on what's going on in New Orleans
and what to expect on Super Bowl Sunday. It is
Super Bowl Sunday, by the way, on the East Coast.
Dan Byer joins us next Fox Sports Tridio. Welcome back, everybody,
Fox Sports Radio er tors Jason Martin. We are broadcasting
live from the Tirec dot Com studios. In just one moment,

(58:48):
we will get to Dan Byer live on the ground
in New Orleans to talk Super Bowl. Before we do,
let's toss it over the news desk Steve de Segar,
what's trending too late?

Speaker 9 (58:57):
Games in the NBA? Under ten minutes to go on
LA Clippers lead Utah ninety six to ninety and about
a minute and a half to go at Sacramento.

Speaker 4 (59:05):
They've been back and forth.

Speaker 9 (59:06):
The King's right now leading New Orleans one nineteen, one
fourteen despite thirty seven points from Zion Williamson. You guys
mentioned that Phoenix is not a fit with their stars
on the court. It's the opposite at Golden State right now,
they won going away at Chicago one thirty two to
one eleven. Steph Curry thirty four points, Jimmy Butler now
with Golden State twenty five points, and each separately at

(59:29):
length spoked after the game about how they are opposites
of each other and how this is going to work
Boston pulled away at New York one thirty one, one
oh four forty points for Jason Tatum. Denver won at
six straight game one twenty two to one oh five
at Phoenix as Kevin Durant to the Suns was out
again with a sprained ankle. For the Nuggets, Jamal Murray
thirty points. Dallas debut for Anthony Davis today. He had

(59:51):
twenty six points, sixteen rebounds and it went over Houston,
which is lost six straight. But Davis did leave with
what he called groin titaness. He says it's not serious.
The Lakers got forty five points from Austin Reeves in
a win over Indiana. Lebron James was out with a
sore ankle. Luka Donsich cood debut for LA on Monday.
The Lakers trade for Charlotte center Mark Williams was rescinded

(01:00:13):
tonight he reportedly failed his physical to college basketball. Number
three Alabama could be the new number one come Monday.
Got a victory at Arkansas tonight eighty five eighty one.
The top two each loss. Number two Duke was beaten
at Clemson seventy seven seventy one and today at number
one Auburn sixth rank Florida beat Auburn ninety to eighty
one in late night college Hoops Top twenty matchup at

(01:00:35):
Arizona has the Wildcats leading with about five and a
half minutes left against Texas Tech sixty four to sixty.
Arizona trying to go to eleven to one in the
Big Twelve Conference. Among the fourteen NHL games right now,
Dallas leads eight to three at San Jose with under
five minutes to go. Carolina won seven to three over Utah,
and Tampa Bay won its game six to three at Detroit.

(01:00:57):
Thomas Detrie leads the Phoenix Open by five strokes. Jordan
Speath tied for second place, and the Philadelphia Eagles activated
defensive end Brandon Ingram, who had triceps surgery in November.
The Super Bowl against the Chiefs is Sunday in New
Orleans on Fox TV.

Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve de Sager.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
This is Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday into Sunday
or towards day some mortin broadcasting and ive from the
tyreck dot com studios. It is Super Bowl Sunday on
the East Coast, and let's not waste any more time.

Speaker 4 (01:01:27):
Let's go out to New Orleans.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
You can hear him here on Fox Sports Radio on
the Doug Gottlieb Show. Also every Sunday, Dan Bayer in
New Orleans. What are you doing at home on a
Saturday night in New Orleans, Dan.

Speaker 8 (01:01:41):
Byer, I'm watching all of my bets on college basketball
lose today.

Speaker 6 (01:01:46):
That's what the sports book just down the street. You know,
I'll try to have some fun.

Speaker 8 (01:01:52):
Sure, No way Florida goes to Auburn and win.

Speaker 6 (01:01:55):
No way, not gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
Guys, Oh it happened.

Speaker 4 (01:01:59):
Steve Sagred told you a little bit about it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
But damn, let me ask you, man.

Speaker 4 (01:02:04):
I want to I.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
Want to ask you actually about, in all seriousness, the
scene down there, because by all reports it feels like
it will get to the game in a minute. But
by all reports, it feels like the city has been
taken over by Philly fans. What would you say the
percentage of Philly fans on Bourbon Street are relative to
Chiefs fans? And do you think you know I was

(01:02:24):
talking to producer Ian about this during the break is
I do think when you have a team that has
been highly successful, fans maybe start to take it for
granted a little bit. Do you just get the sense
that Philly fans have taken over the city and do
you think there's any you know, just Philly fans. I mean,
I'm taking too long to get to the question Philly fans.
Have they taken over Bourbon Street.

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
In New Orleans?

Speaker 8 (01:02:45):
Actually, Aeron, I think that you're finding you to think
all of the stuff that you were saying are things
that maybe some people are just presuming that are happening.
And I will say this, I think Philly fans are
obviously louder what I've notned. And as I've walked around
and I walked around the French Quarter on Thursday night,
and I walked around it earlier today, and I noticed

(01:03:08):
fans from both teams. When I came back to my
room and I was watching the local news to see
what they were doing, it seemed like there were more
Eagles fans being interviewed.

Speaker 6 (01:03:19):
And I don't know if it's.

Speaker 8 (01:03:20):
Just because they're louder. I don't know if it's because
they have more to say. But it may seem like
this is just a dominant Philly, like a city dominated
by Eagles fans. But I do think that the Chiefs
are representing. I felt like I saw a lot of red.

Speaker 6 (01:03:37):
I don't know if it's fifty to fifty.

Speaker 8 (01:03:38):
But in my mind for what I was seeing out there,
it suirs. Heck, wasn't seventy five to twenty five. I mean,
I was seeing a lot of Chiefs fans out there.
So I get the sense that people think it's going
to be taken over by Philadelphia, and I think everything
that you said, Aaron is what.

Speaker 6 (01:03:53):
People believe is.

Speaker 8 (01:03:54):
Yeah, the Chiefs, it's another Super Bowl. They don't care
as much, but I do at least have to give
them respect in terms of I feel that Kansas City
has shown up. It just maybe that the Eagles fans
are louder and they may have more maybe fifty five
to forty five or sixty to forty. We'll find out
tomorrow in the Dome on what it really is. But
I actually think Kansas City's represented pretty well. Maybe it's

(01:04:15):
just Philly so loud.

Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
Dan, what's the media? What do you think the media
tenor is right now when it comes to this matchup.
I haven't looked at a bunch of people's predictions. I
want to get my own at the end of the show.
But just like, what's the sense when you're just walking
around talking to your colleagues or just talking to other
people in the industry, is it kind of split or
is one team seemingly the heavy favorite?

Speaker 6 (01:04:38):
Yeah, I get the same thing. Probably if I talk
to ten people.

Speaker 8 (01:04:43):
It's eight eight out of ten times I hear I
just can't pick against my Homes. And I don't know, obviously, guys,
if it's because of how great they've been and how
good they've been in close games this year, or it's
from the narrative of earlier this week that people think
that Mahomes is just going to get a call at

(01:05:05):
the end of the game, which everybody tried to debunk,
and I think that it's kind of foolish, But I've
gone along with stars get star calls all the time
in every single sport, and it happens in the NFL
as well. But the sense that I get for the
people that are picking the Chiefs every time, I just
hear I can't bet against Patrick Mahomes, and that's I

(01:05:29):
think that's actually pretty good for the Philadelphia Eagles. I'm
siding with the Eagles. I just think that they're a
better team. I think that the Chief's ultimate strength can
be neutralized by Philly's offensive line, and that's the Chief's
defensive front. But everything that I hear from for people
out there are why they pick the Chiefs. It's not
about zager Worthy and the difference that he can make,

(01:05:51):
or what that defense can do, or Trent McDuffie or anything.
It's just they don't want to bet against Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Dan Bayer joining us live from New Orleans here on
Fox Sports Radio. Dan's been in New Orleans all week
covering everything for the Doug Gottlieb Show, which you can
hear twelve to two Pacific here on Fox Sports Radio.
Also Dan host with Kerry Rhodes every Sunday afternoon. Dan
kind of a little bit of a weird question for me,
which you know, you know tour is not all that surprising,
but you know, I've I've read a lot of articles

(01:06:20):
this week about it has the Super Bowl out grown
New Orleans? Like you know, we've seen the stats that
you know that hotel prices are now more expensive than
tickets are, and as somebody who loves going to a
big event in New Orleans, I've been to a Final
Four there.

Speaker 4 (01:06:35):
I've obviously never been.

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
To a super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
Do you get any sense that you know, do you
think that's an issue? Because it's such a great event city.
I would hate to see it kind of fall out
of the rotation. But as somebody who has been a
big events there, I also know that it maybe isn't
equipped for an event like the super Bowl, like it
was maybe thirty forty years ago.

Speaker 8 (01:06:54):
You know, I haven't heard logistics problems like usually when
I hear people complaining, they get a plane and we'll
just use Arizona for an example. That was a couple
of years ago. Because I actually think everything went really
great with Las Vegas last year, but in the Super
Bowls that we've had in the Phoenix area was man,
everything is spread out. Everything is just so spread out.

(01:07:15):
It's difficult. And this is the opposite. And I think
that there's some motivation and maybe some angling as well.

Speaker 6 (01:07:22):
The NFL does this stuff.

Speaker 8 (01:07:24):
They'll say, hey, maybe the stadium isn't up to par
so then this stadium makes renovations and they get what
they got. This has been twelve years since we've had
a super Bowl here, and it'd be crazy for me
to think that it would be another twelve years. I
don't know if the NFL has just.

Speaker 6 (01:07:38):
Tried to grab more.

Speaker 8 (01:07:40):
But for everything that's been going on, everything essentially located,
it's great. Maybe that's a problem why some of the
prices are so crazy because everything is just downtown here
in New Orleans. But I don't think that it's I
don't think it's a problem, Aaron, I haven't seen logistics problems.
The city's old, so you're always going to get you know,

(01:08:02):
backups of cars and stuff like that. But in terms
of like the price of hocality and what they you know,
what they may need to do in the future. It
may just be the NFL trying to push a message
out there to all right, we want this, we want that.
But it would be a darn shame if they ended
up leaving here because I know this for many people,
this is the top three super Bowl city venue, top

(01:08:23):
three sports venue, whether it be a Super Bowl or
Final Four or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
So Dan, you know, all three of us have we've
done the radio road thing. We've been to super Bowls.
When you look at New Orleans now, coming off of
the tragedy that happened during the College Football Playoff. Did
you notice increased security, increased presence, increased alertness compared to
Super Bowls of the past.

Speaker 8 (01:08:49):
Yes, yes, and I think the central nature of it.
But to your point, I went with Jason Stewart, the
producer of the Doug Gottlieb Show, on Thursday night. We
walked out and you know Memorial where you're where the
new tragedy occurred. Significant security present at that point. I

(01:09:09):
was down around Jackson Square this morning. You could see
stuff on light bulbs and power pols of cameras and
other stuff, which I don't know if it was always there,
but it was there this time around. And so you
really do get that sense roads being blocked off.

Speaker 6 (01:09:26):
Obviously, the nature of the tragedy that we had, I
think that was a big thing.

Speaker 8 (01:09:30):
So, yeah, it was different. I've been down here, guys,
been down here at the Super Bowl twelve years ago.
I've been here for Sugar Bowls. It did seem more
significant than anything that.

Speaker 6 (01:09:41):
I had dealt with in the past.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
Dan Byer joining us Fox Sports Radio. Of course you
can hear Dan every Sunday afternoon with Carrie Rhodes and
of course with Doug Gottlieb.

Speaker 4 (01:09:48):
On the Doug Gottlieb Show.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
Last one for me, Dan, just you know, listen, you
talked about the we can't bet against mahomes and that
does feel like kind of just a theme in general
as far as you know, people breaking it down inside, outside,
fan whatever. What was the vibe being around the two teams?
I mean, I assume you were at media night on Monday.
But and I'll let me even take it this direction

(01:10:13):
is we had Sean Brace on a Fox Sports radio
host in Philly.

Speaker 4 (01:10:16):
And I asked him.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
I said, you know, on the one hand, you think
Philly having face Casey on this stage would help them.
On the other hand, it hasn't helped Buffalo, it hasn't
helped San Francisco, who's played them twice in a Super Bowl. Like,
do you get the sense of confidence from Philly? Do
you get the sense of any sort of whatever, not
being scared? But you know, kind of I don't know

(01:10:38):
what's the vibe with the two teams as we get
set to play this game on Sunday.

Speaker 8 (01:10:42):
Yeah, I'll tell you a couple of things quick. First,
So I think at the town until Tuesday night, So
I wasn't around for media night on Monday. But what
I can tell you and I wasn't able to follow
the team's here the previous Super Bowls that I've had,
I was about zero to seven when I felt like, Oh,
this team seems loose and this team seems tight, so I'm.

Speaker 6 (01:10:59):
Gonna go with it.

Speaker 8 (01:11:00):
That's loose, They're going to win the Super Bowl and
then they ultimately lose. I don't think you can get
a read from.

Speaker 6 (01:11:05):
What happens during the week.

Speaker 8 (01:11:07):
I think your point of Philadelphia and the previous Super
Bowl helps. I also think it really helps that Jalen
Hurts has.

Speaker 6 (01:11:14):
Gone through this.

Speaker 8 (01:11:15):
I actually feel he's kind of in a no win
situation in this game unless he performs out of his
mind like he did two years ago. But a lot
of the newbies on Philadelphia are on defense, and maybe
Patrick Mahomes takes advantage of that. But I'd rather have
newbies on defense the newbies on offense and playing in.

Speaker 6 (01:11:32):
This big stage. And the only newbe.

Speaker 8 (01:11:34):
Philadelphia really has to take on Barkley and I'm not
worried about him at all. So I think Philadelphia is
pretty well prepped in this situation here, but you never
know until kickoff. Heck, we never know if something could
happen tonight guys, you know, with one of the teams,
and we wake up tomorrow morning and there's a different
story going on. We've had it happen at Super Bowls before,

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so I think it's just difficult to tell during the
week whether you're with the teams or not to really
a sense. Obviously, Kansas City is comfortable here because they've
been here into the previous five years, in the last
two for sure. But I think Philadelphia, at least for
the guys that came back, tend to know the whole
situation as well and shouldn't shouldn't be steeling any anks
towards the game on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
Dan Gutfilin, do you think the referees are a story
on Monday?

Speaker 8 (01:12:21):
Yes, I do.

Speaker 6 (01:12:23):
I always think that they will be. Well.

Speaker 8 (01:12:25):
Heckay, we're the last time these two teams played, right.
I mean, it's on the holding call at the end
of the game that allowed Kansas City to run the
clock out. It was it was a call at that situation.
I don't know if it's going to be Kansas City
again gets a break, or it's the referees made up
for all of the Kansas City, Love and Philadelphia.

Speaker 6 (01:12:45):
I got a call.

Speaker 8 (01:12:46):
But there's going to be something that we're going to
be talking about ultimate because I think I think everybody
realizes it's going to be a close game. We have
a game with a one point spread, and if it
was if it was a two score game, it wouldn't
be a conversation.

Speaker 6 (01:12:58):
But I don't think any of us expect that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
All I'll say is I was on air with Ephim
Salaam for the Casey Buffalo game this year, and it
was just so clear that Buffalo was tight and Casey
made all the big plays late and everyone was still like, oh,
you know, if you go back to that third down
and you know with nine minutes to go, I'm like,
there was like three touchdowns scored after the nine minute marks,
so it's like stop. So I think to your point, Dan,

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it's always going to be an issue with Casey. People
are going to see what they want to see. I
just hope we get a great game. That is of course,
Dan Bayer. You can hear him every Sunday afternoon with Dan.
Are you on, by the way tomorrow with Carrie. I
don't mean to put you on the spot here. I
know there's a chance you could be either going to
the game, traveling to the game.

Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
Whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
Are you on tomorrow? Are you just corresponding for us here?

Speaker 8 (01:13:41):
Yeah, I will be at the game, guys, So I
will not be on tomorrow. In fact, I think Carrie
has off because it's an extended tomorrow. So yeah, but
I'll be at the Supernome And yeah, hopefully wouldn't see.

Speaker 6 (01:13:53):
A good game.

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
Well, first of all, we do hope you get a
good game. Yes, Ornberger and Hartman into Arnie Plank Arnie Plank.
I did this last week, Arnie Spanier and Chris Plank.

Speaker 8 (01:14:04):
I was gonna say that their dating name Arnie Plank.
If they were a couple, they.

Speaker 4 (01:14:11):
Would be certainly a power couple.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
By the way, just find out Chris Plank will be
in studio on Sunday night. I guess Oklahoma Softball is
here on the West coast, So Plank and Arnie will
be taking you up till eleven pm Eastern.

Speaker 4 (01:14:23):
Time, and Dan enjoy the game.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
I will be actually hosting with Plank later in the evening,
so we hope to get you on as well. But
Dan Byer in New Orleans, we appreciate your time. Dan
Byer on Fox's the Twitter handle, my man, enjoy it.
We hope you get a good game like you. Hope
you get a good game and enjoy New Orleans.

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
All right.

Speaker 8 (01:14:43):
Always love talking to you guys.

Speaker 6 (01:14:44):
Have a good one, fellas. We'll see you later.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
That was Dan Bayer Fox Sports Ready here Monday through
Friday with Doug Gottlieb and every Sunday except for tomorrow
when we get the extended Ornberger and Plank he is
on with Carrie Rhoads.

Speaker 4 (01:14:58):
We'll come back when we do. Oh boy, the extended
to Sager segment.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
He's gonna have so much on the game Sunday and
of course a busy day across sports on Saturday. That's
next FAW Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports Radio
were towards Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Tyreck dot
Com studios. Don't want to waste any more time. By
the way, we do appreciate Dan Bayer joining us. Don't
want to waste any more time, though. Let's toss it
over to the news desk to Sager with his extended updates.

Speaker 9 (01:15:26):
You mentioned Arnie span You're on the air tomorrow night.
His Arizona Wildcats have just won again in hoops and
we disusually Arizona football, we play this yeah Wildcats.

Speaker 4 (01:15:37):
Now, but basketball.

Speaker 9 (01:15:38):
They have tied fifth rank Houston in the standings of
the Big Twelve Conference each eleven and one, and next
Saturday it's Houston at Arizona Top twenty matchup in Tucson
just ended with Arizona beating Texas Tech eighty two seventy three.
By the way, Saint Mary's eleven to one in its league,
the West Coast Conference, after winning at Oregon State and
Colorado State nine and three on the Mountain West after

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beating San Diego State, there could be a new number
one could be Alabama. On Monday, Bama won a close
game at Arkansas was ranked number three. Alabama was this
week number two. Duke lost a close when it Clemson,
and number one Auburn lost at home to sixth ranked
Florida and as far as the late game final seconds
ticking away in LA, the Clippers have just beaten Utah

(01:16:20):
one thirty to one. Ten Sacramento sent New Orleans to
an eighth straight loss despite Zion Williamson scoring forty points.
Lakers beat Indiana today forty five points from Austin Reeves,
but Lakers were trying to get Charlotte center Mark Williams
out of Duke. That trade has been rescinded after reportedly
he failed his physical. Now, of course, Fox TV will

(01:16:42):
have the Super Bowl Eagles Chiefs tomorrow and a long
pregame show as well. We'll have you covered here live
on Fox Sports Radio and you'll be on the air
what like half hour hour after the finil I mean
last year, me and j Mark got on ninety seconds after.

Speaker 4 (01:16:57):
The final and overtime.

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
Yeah, we'll see.

Speaker 9 (01:17:02):
It's the Eagles seventeen and three against the Chiefs seventeen
and two. And keep in mind, Kansasity had a good
start to their last game, very good start, touchdowns on
their three of their first four drives against Buffalo, and
they wound up needing that late field goal to win.
Travis Kelcey only had two catches in that game and
they still advanced. Patrick Mahomes had two touchdown runs, one

(01:17:23):
touchdown pass, and a fumble. So Casey's won the last
two Super Bowls. The last NFL team to win three
straight championships, yes it has happened before, was Lombardi's Packers
in the nineteen sixties. Casey that AFC Championship Game victory.
It was its thirteenth win this season by single digits.
This is just astonishing that this keeps going on. Most

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such wins in a single season by any team in
NFL history regular season in playoffs. You'd have to go
back a couple of Christmases to find the last close
game that the Chiefs lost. Two years ago, Casey beat
Philadelphia in the Super Bowl thirty five on a late
field goal in Arizona, Key in the first half. Jalen
Hurts had that fumble return for a touchdown. He did

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have three touchdown runs in defeat. But Casey's back in
the big game in the Super Bowl five times in
the last six years. Now Here the Chiefs franchise had
one Super Bowl win in the first fifty three years
of Super Bowl history, and now they've defeated San Francisco
twice and maybe Philadelphia twice. They are going up against
a Philly team that was the number one defense in

(01:18:29):
the regular season. The Chiefs these last couple of years
have a much improved defense. They were top five in
the league and allowing just nineteen points per game this
past year. Remember in the Division round a win against Houston,
the defense had eight sacks. I love this stat to
Patrick Mahomes, who was a first round draft choice in
twenty seventeen. Well, no quarterback drafted in twenty eighteen or

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after in any round has won a Super Bowl yet.
Not Josh Allen, beaten by Mahomes four times. Not Joe Burrow,
not Lamar Jackson. Keep going down the lists. The city
is back in the big game, having won an NFL
record seventeen straight one possession games, and in fact, since
the start of the twenty nineteen postseason, the Chiefs offense

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when they're down a score fourth quarter overtime, they've had
eleven playoff drives and eleven scores. So if it's close
in the fourth we've seen it before.

Speaker 4 (01:19:20):
Those stats about one score games, they're just unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
So we'll see if anything changes on Sunday, of course,
where the Eagles will face the Chiefs. Fox Sports Radio
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Speaker 4 (01:19:34):
We'll come back. We got an hour left.

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All Right, j Mart, So, we led the show talking
a little bit about the about the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (01:21:03):
You may have heard a big game on Sunday, Eagles Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
Let's continue the conversation, and you know, I want to
kind of take it in a little bit of a
different direction. Uh, we'll give our picks. By the way,
at the bottom of the hour, hour one. We talked
a lot about just you know, what Philly needs you
to win, what Kansas City needs to do to keep
doing what they've been doing. I want to switch gears
kind of to kind of an offshoot topic that I

(01:21:26):
think is going to be a fascinating thing to kind
of monitor over the course of the game. Do you
want to talk a little bit about Tom Brady's first
Super Bowl? Not as a player, of course, but as
a broadcaster. You know, listen, I know it's a little
weird because we're Fox, but at the same time, I
think it's a conversation worth having because you know, how
like you know, like say, like Caleb Williams, right, He's like, oh,

(01:21:49):
he's one of the most you know, under the microscope
players ever. You know, he came up in the nil era,
you know whatever, blah blah blah blah. I feel like
Tom Brady is he has to be the most under
the microscope first year broadcaster ever. And part of it
is I get it, he's Tom Brady. He is the goat.

(01:22:10):
I would also add that on top of it, he's
getting paid a handsome sum. He took over for a
very popular broadcaster in Greg Olsen. But I'm just curious
what the response will be on Sunday night tom Brady
in his first Super Bowl. What do you expect to
hear from the all time great player in what will
be his first Super Bowl call.

Speaker 3 (01:22:31):
I think he'll be just fine, but I think he
will get absolutely mauled. And I mean by social media
and the instant reaction, because we've seen this all year long.
If you go to any kind of forums, if you
look at like comment sections, which well you shouldn't, but
he gets crushed all the time. And you know, those

(01:22:53):
that cover the media themselves, they've been critical of him
a few different times this year. But not that much.
I think he's been fine. I've enjoyed listening to him.
He's not a natural broadcaster, he's a natural quarterback. He's
a natural football player. He's not, you know, as polished,

(01:23:13):
but I get the energy and it seems like he
is putting in the work to try and get better.
I remember, you know, Romo was the greatest thing we'd
ever heard at first, and now the bloom's off that
rose for a lot of people. I've always thought Aikman
was good, but a lot of people don't like Aikman.
You can find somebody that hates everybody, but when it
comes to Brady, it seems like it is more vociferous.

(01:23:37):
It seems like everybody is out for this guy. And
I think it just goes back to finally we can
take this dude down a peg. And I don't think.
I think if he had not displaced Olsen, Okay, if
he had just been you know, b C in year
one something like that and kind of grown into the role,
I don't think it would have had the same effect.
The difference for CBS when what happened to them happened

(01:24:01):
was Phil Simms was not particularly popular. People didn't really
think he was all that good they You know, there
was the whole Phil Simms quotes Twitter account. I remember
that that thing was hilarious, and when Romo came in,
it was a breath of fresh air. Here. Olsen had
just gotten into the job and he was as good
as we had heard in a long time. And I
think that was part of it. It was just like he's

(01:24:23):
just going to waltz in here because he's Tom Brady,
which of course he is. Like if Michael Jordan wanted
to call an NBA game, he's probably gonna call the
biggest one that they can find because he's going to
be box office and there's a curiosity factor as well
as well. I want to hear what Tom Brady has
to say, or I want to hear what Michael Jordan
has to say. It's always going to be that way.
It doesn't mean they're gonna be the best broadcaster, just
like Michael Jordan's not a great owner an the NBA

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and we've seen that throughout time. So these skills don't
necessarily transfer over. He was blessed with one skill. Perhaps
he's not a natural as a broadcaster, but I do
think that a lot of this is just because it's
Tom Brady. You've gotten no chance really to dog on
him on the field, and even the kind of rebirth
in Tampa Bay that everybody liked, I think now people

(01:25:10):
can just kind of go after him because they can
see the flaws as opposed to giving him any level
of grace, which I don't think anyone really has.

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
Yeah, I largely basically agree with pretty much everything that
you've just said. Is I think it is a variable
of nobody wants to see Tom Brady be good at
something else. And you know, let me say this, I'm
kind of with you, is that. Listen, I don't think
he's the most polished analyst that has ever walked the
face of the earth. But it's also year one and
I don't know why people expected that. Here's my other thing, too,

(01:25:41):
is I sort of get the Greg Olsen side of things.

Speaker 4 (01:25:45):
He was very popular.

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
Whether you know whoever personally likes him or not, he
was a pretty popular guy. But the counter to that
is exactly what you just said, is like he's Tom Brady. Like,
I'm sorry, but you're not putting him on the Panther
Saints game to get reps, Like you're just not, you know,
and so.

Speaker 3 (01:26:04):
He was.

Speaker 4 (01:26:05):
And by the way, it's it's twofold. It's one.

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
Fox is not gonna put Tom Brady out because why
would he? And Tom Brady isn't gonna come in as
the quote unquote sixth round draft pick of broadcasting and
volunteer to do it. You know, If I'm gonna do this,
I'm gonna do it at the highest level. And and
so I just you know, listen, I get that no
matter what it is, everyone is going to be critical.

Speaker 4 (01:26:26):
And I'm it's hard.

Speaker 2 (01:26:28):
I don't want to sit here and say, oh, I'm
so surprised that people are mean, because it's people are
are not impressed, because it's like everyone on the internet
hates everything. But it's just like, I don't know, man, It's.

Speaker 3 (01:26:39):
Just I don't think he has a chance of being
said is doing a good job tomorrow. And I think
that's unfair. Like I don't think he's gonna be judged
on what he actually does. He's gonna be judged based
on he's Tom Brady, and that creates a problem for
some people. And I just I don't think that a
lot of this stuff has been done in good faith.
And that's My only problem with it. If he was

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legitimately just awful and the worst thing we'd ever heard,
that'd be one thing. But one he's not. And two again,
this is a dude that played football and that's always
known for the last couple of decades. And now he's
coming in and you know, I don't think he came
in and demanded that he was gonna be the A
list announcer or whatever like that. But again, you're not
gonna bring him in like Mark Sanchez, I think does

(01:27:20):
a nice job for Fox. I enjoy listening to Mark Sanchez.
Mark Sanchez is gonna call Saints Panthers, He's gonna have
to earn that, right. But Tom Brady everybody wants to
hear Tom Brady for whatever reason. But now it's just like, oh,
I've seen a bunch of like we're gonna watch this
game on mute and all this stuff. It's like, all right, man,
I do you like? That's just absolutely ridiculous, and I

(01:27:44):
think it's unfair. I think my guess is Tom's gonna
do just fine. I think he'll be into it. He's
gonna have a lot of insight about being in the
Super Bowl. That almost nobody else could because dude understands
what it's like to play in this game, and he
understands what it's like to face off against ma Home
in this game. So I mean, I think it gives
him a unique perspective. And so I think that those

(01:28:05):
that that try that mute route are gonna be making
a mistake.

Speaker 2 (01:28:08):
Yeah, no, I agree with it. I agree with that,
And it's just those comments drive me so crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:28:13):
Oh yeah, we watch that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:14):
No, you're not stop. First of all, you're having a party.
There's gonna be theater people there, You're turn on, you're
turning on the radio broadcast, You're you're you know, or
what are we doing here? So I think it'll be
an interesting conversation. I mean, listen, we got another hour
to break break this thing down, and we'll give our
picks at the end of the show. We'll probably talk
a little Sirianni, Jalen Hurts, et cetera. Any other like

(01:28:35):
first glance things that stand out and now we're one
we just kind of talked about, I mean, you know,
the cliche stuff of what Philly has to do, what
Kansas City has to do, uh, anything else really stand
out as far as just obvious things that you're intrigued
by going into this game.

Speaker 3 (01:28:50):
I don't know, Like I didn't pay too close of
attention to anything that was being said by the teams
of sales. Anybody said anything dumb, Like, I haven't really
noticed anything crazy being said by anybody. Nothing that's gonna
be bulletin board material. It seems like both teams are
kind of showing some respect for one another. I could

(01:29:10):
be wrong, but I certainly haven't seen a bunch of
hot takes about X player saying X thing.

Speaker 2 (01:29:17):
Yeah, producer and real quick, have you heard anything super controversial? Yeah,
Ian shake and it said you can hop a.

Speaker 4 (01:29:23):
Definitely, haven't You guys are totally right?

Speaker 2 (01:29:26):
Yeah, No, I think it's in and listen, I think
it's it's two things, right, you know. One Mahomes is,
like many great superstars, the least interesting interview ever. You know,
the Chiefs have been here before, and I think Philly
smart enough to know like, hey, like we are the underdog,
and hey like we do have like like you know,
there's no reason to give them anything extra. So yeah,
I don't know that there's been anything super interesting coming

(01:29:48):
out of Super Bowl Week.

Speaker 4 (01:29:50):
Generally, there rarely is.

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
It was funny we had on Sean Bracon, our one
from Fox Sports Radio Philadelphia, the Gambler, and he said,
he's like, dude, I'm just tired of talking about this game, Like,
let's just play the game.

Speaker 4 (01:30:00):
And I do think I think.

Speaker 2 (01:30:01):
He speaks for a lot of us because we've had
two weeks to break this thing down, and certainly there's
been plenty to talk about, and there will still be plenty.
There's not a ton of new ground to cover, but
that said, we're gonna try anyway. Fox Sports Radio aertors
Jason Martin. We're broadcasting live from the Tiret dot Com studios.
When we come back, I do want to have some
of the conversations I know some of the other people

(01:30:21):
on these airwaves have had, but most specifically about Philadelphia.
You know, maybe we talked a little bit about Mahomes
and all that, but I do think there's some interesting
conversations about what does this game mean for Sirianni, what
does it mean for Jalen Hurts, what does it mean
for the Eagles. So we will come back and discuss
things from the Eagles perspective and what happens if they
can somehow pull off the upset. We'll discuss all that next.

(01:30:44):
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Taymart we are now let's see here fifteen hours or so,
I think that's right. Seventeen game.

Speaker 3 (01:31:37):
Game starts in thirty minutes.

Speaker 4 (01:31:39):
Pregame starts at thirty minutes. I mean, well pretty.

Speaker 3 (01:31:43):
Soon, right, yeah, I mean it's usually pretty long. I
think they start around one o'clock something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:31:48):
It's it's pretty early. It's pretty early. And by the way,
if you need pregame at two am Easter Time. Bernie
Fraddo is the guy for you. He'll be following us. Yeah,
a lot of pregame and then a great game starting
at six thirty Eastern time. Cannot wait. Let's just dive
into some of the conversations that we could be having
on Monday. First of all, it's the oldest cliche. There's

(01:32:09):
a million cliches. But what do you think the number
one topic will be if the Kansas City Chiefs win
this Super Bowl on Sunday?

Speaker 3 (01:32:21):
This the most well, I think the topics probably going
to be is just the most impressive thing we've ever
seen from an NFL franchise, Like it's this dynasty now
supplanting any other that has come before because of the
three peat. I think that's probably it. And then you
get to the individual accolades, and I think the most

(01:32:42):
the argument that's coming immediately is has Mahomes supplant Brady?

Speaker 2 (01:32:46):
That's why I think it'll be. Yeah, I think it'll
immediately default past the team awards and it'll turn into
Brady versus Mahomes. Do you have a strong take on
if we should be even having that conversation on Super
Bowl Sunday? And a Monday.

Speaker 3 (01:32:59):
I think it's fair. I mean, obviously not total Super
Bowls and hasn't been for as long, but there's not
been a stretch by an NFL player ever like what
we've seen from Mahomes at this point. As great as
Brady was throughout his career, the way this career has
started for Patrick Mahomes is unlike anything we have ever

(01:33:20):
seen before and probably ever we'll see again. I mean,
he keeps vanquishing every foe that seems to have his number.
No one has his number. It just he just keeps
on doing this. And if he goes out there and
he has some kind of unbelievable game, or he pulls
the rabbit out of the hat at the end of
a game that they're trailing and they find a way

(01:33:40):
to win, I mean, how would you have a problem
with having that discussion? I think it would be I
think you'd be hard pressed to have some kind of
an issue with that in that case.

Speaker 2 (01:33:53):
Yeah, I don't know that I have an issue. You know,
sometimes I think we get a lot I think a
lot of times.

Speaker 3 (01:33:58):
Yeah, we definitely, we definitely could put the cart ahead
of the horse and do all that kind of stuff.
We had that talk. Remember we had to talk about
Jokic and Anthony. Is this guy that great? Is this
guy the next da da da? No, just let him
be Nikola Jokic. You don't have to. We don't have
to contextualize this in the annals of history, even though
the sports ends up being that. But I think at

(01:34:18):
this point, as long as we have seen Mahomes doing
this very thing, if they beat a team that on paper,
I think the Eagles are the better football team if
they do this and Mahomes is and we have to
assume he would be the likely reason why. Uh. I
think at that point, if we're going to have that discussion,

(01:34:39):
that's about the most valid time too.

Speaker 2 (01:34:41):
Yeah, the only you know one I just me personally,
and by the way, that is one where you turn
on whatever show. I have no problem with the conversation happening.
I don't think it would be necessarily getting too far
ahead of ourselves. I think it'd be a little bit.
The only thing that would make me hesitate about getting
too comfy saying that he is or will be. Andy

(01:35:03):
Reid is sixty six years old and he'll be sixty
seven in March, and you know, It's funny. I was
talking to Brandon and Ian before the show about this
is that, you know, I don't really understand the Andy
Reid is this year last year situation. Now, certainly a
health situation could come up sixty soon to be sixty
seven years old. But I was telling Brandon, I was like,

(01:35:24):
you know, Andy Reid coach. Andy Reid coach a lot
of Kevin Cobbs, and you know, Alex Smith's to get
to Patrick Mahomes, like, I don't know why you walk
out on an all time great in his prime. But
then you do wonder what if you want to call
it a succession plan, like what comes after Andy Reid?
That'd be the only reason that I'd sit there and say, like,
you know, I know what trajectory Mahomes is on. But

(01:35:48):
it also feels a little bit presumptuous to, you know,
to assume that Andy Reid is going to be there
that much longer, and then what what becomes the conversation
at that point?

Speaker 4 (01:35:57):
You know, I'm looking right now.

Speaker 2 (01:35:57):
Bill Belichick was forty nine when the Patriots won their
first Super Bowl. Now, obviously he was probably a little
closer to let's see here when they won their when
he won his fourth.

Speaker 4 (01:36:09):
I want to see how old he was. It's it's
not super important.

Speaker 2 (01:36:13):
But so they beat the So they beat the the
Seahawks in twenty fifteen. So he was born in fifty two,
so that would be what fifty that would be sixty three,
So sixty three, so about the same age as Mahomes
or not not about same age, about three four years
younger than Andy Reid would be when he won his fourth.

(01:36:33):
That would be my only hesitation, my only concern really quickly.
You know, we had Sean brace On earlier in the
show from Philadelphia. He's great as always, And my only
question for you is, you know we asked him about
Nick Sirianni. You and I have had conversations about Nick Sirianni.
Like you know, legacy is not the right word, but

(01:36:53):
what do you think the conversation is about Nick s Gurianni.
Come Monday, if the Philadelphia Eagles pull off the upside
on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (01:37:01):
Well I think at that point you have to say,
all right, so he has the chance to come out
of this feeling like Kyle Shanahan, where Shanahan has lost
a couple of course, Shanahan was at the helm of
the twenty eight to three game, as well as the
offensive coordinator for Dan Quinn's Falcons at the time. But
so let's say Sirianni does pull it off, like you're saying,

(01:37:21):
then he dodges that bullet that Shanahan had to take
last year when they lost that game in overtime. Then
Shanahan had lost twice to this guy in a Super Bowl.
And if Sirianni is able to avoid that and actually
pull it off, I'm not saying people are going to
suggest that Sirianni is better than Kyle Shanahan, but I

(01:37:42):
think the narrative then switches to it might be time
to put some respect on this guy's name, and whether
or not you agree with it or not is irrelevant.
I think that becomes the storyline. I think it a
lot of it will will default to the players. It'll
default to Barkley, it'll default to the defense, the offensive line,
various player on the field. But I think that Sirianni
is probably gonna get a second look from people that

(01:38:06):
maybe had kind of counted him out mid season.

Speaker 2 (01:38:10):
Yeah, I think that. To me, I think he's already
kind of gotten there.

Speaker 7 (01:38:15):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
Listen, I think if they get blown out or embarrassed
and it becomes a discourse on Nick Sirianni. You know,
I don't know. I feel like at this point, second
super Bowl in three years, four years overall as a
head coach, like it's a pretty solid run all four
years you make the postseason, I feel like the narrative
has kind of flipped on him.

Speaker 4 (01:38:35):
The last guy.

Speaker 2 (01:38:36):
I do want to ask you about Jalen Hurts because
this one has been to me. I feel a little weird,
like because I've seen a lot of the well, how
do we look at Jalen Hurts if he ends up
winning on Sunday? And it's like, maybe I'm crazy. I
don't really think I'm gonna look at him much different.
I mean, I think, certainly he could have an incredible game,

(01:38:57):
but even if he has an incredible game, like, I
don't know that I'm putting him in the Lamar Jackson,
Josh Allen, Patrick, Mahomes, whoever. Category. And so I like him,
you know, I think he obviously, like a lot of
great quarterbacks, benefits from the talent around him. But I
have seen that one a lot, Like, how does it
change the conversation about Jalen hurts, like, to me, I

(01:39:17):
really don't know that it does, but but yeah, I could.
I think it will be a talking point if Philadelphia wins.

Speaker 3 (01:39:25):
Yeah, I mean, I definitely think so too. I think
the one thing that we can't do is if he loses,
can't be like, well, he can't be the guy. It's like, well,
then Josh Allen can't be the guy. Sure, and Lamar
Jackson can't be the guy. Nobody can be the guy
outside of maybe Burrow. I think it's really interesting when
you think about Burrow, for example, because what would Burrow

(01:39:46):
be seen as if he had not made that Super
Bowl gall if they had not beaten the Chiefs in
that game and gotten there. How would he be viewed?
Because I think that every time we think about Burrow,
as great as he is, listen, and I'm not here
to throw shade on him at all. I think he's phenomenal,
but I also think that in the back of our
minds we view him just a little bit differently, maybe

(01:40:09):
on just a slightly higher pedestal, or we give him
a little bit more of the benefit of the doubt,
because that dude actually beat Patrick Mahomes in the playoffs,
that dude stopped the Kansas City Chiefs from making it
to the Super Bowl. That right there, I think that's
what it is for Jalen Hurts. Like, if he's able
to actually beat this guy, then he becomes one of

(01:40:31):
a very select few that has ever been able to
do that, especially in the playoffs. I mean, you've had
Tom Brady do it, You've had Joe Burrow do it.
You will have had then Jalen Hurts do it. And
I do think there's something that comes with that. The
other thing, of course, is I mean, how much of
it is going to be Hurts and how much of
it is going to be other people. And that's not
to say that it couldn't very much be Hurts, but

(01:40:53):
I think that the narrative on Hurts will be determined
by how he plays, not even just that they win.
You can win in spite of your quarterback. My Broncos
largely won in spite of Peyton Manning because of the
defense and things like that. And the Eagles are built
to win even if Hurtz doesn't throw for one hundred
and fifty yards in this game because of Barkley, the
home run nature of the way he runs the football,

(01:41:15):
that offensive line being able to control the clock, and
then a defense that has just been ballhawkish all year.

Speaker 2 (01:41:23):
Tell you what, I have two more hypotheticals on what
could happen depending on the result, What should happen, What
the conversations will be on Sunday into Monday. We'll get
to those next, But for the final time this evening,
let's get it over the news desk Steve de Sega.

Speaker 4 (01:41:37):
What is trending?

Speaker 9 (01:41:38):
Of course, the Super Bowl is in New Orleans tomorrow
Eagles and Chiefs on Fox TV. The Super Bowl in
a year will be at the forty nine Ers Stadium
and in two years at the Rams Stadium. But Philadelphia
takes its number one total defense into this game tomorrow.
They have the league's top rusher, Saquon Barkley from the
regular season as well. The only other team in the

(01:41:58):
Super Bowl era that had both the number one defense
and the leading rusher that year was em Att Smith's
Dallas team, which won the Super Bowl in nineteen ninety two.
Jalen Hurts has been to a Super Bowl and lost
a couple years ago. There are thirty six different quarterbacks
who've lost their first Super Bowl start only three out
of the thirty six eventually won a Super Bowl as

(01:42:20):
a starter in their whole careers. John Elway at the
end of his career, Lynn Dawson and Bob Greasey did
it as well. Kansas City a slight favorite seventeen and two.
Record Eagles seventeen and three. And yes, we will be
seeing the Eagles wearing the dark green. They chose the
Green Jerseys as the designated home team. It was their choice.

(01:42:40):
So Casey's wearing white tomorrow. For what it's worth, this
is only trivias. Sixteen of the last twenty Super Bowl
champions were wearing white. In the NBA, the Lakers trade
for Charlotte center Mark Williams was rescinded he reportedly failed
as physical in LA. Today, the Lakers beat Indiana as
Austin Reeves scored forty five points. Lebron James was out
with a so ankle, but the Lakers led by twenty

(01:43:02):
two after the first quarter. Luka Donsich could debut Monday
for LA. These Lakers have won eleven of their last
thirteen games. Dallas sent Houston to a six straight loss.
Anthony Davis in his MAVs debut twenty six points sixteen rebounds.
Davis was seven assists just one turnover, but left with
an apparent abdominal injury. He'd missed five games with an
abdominal strain. It was a non contact lower body injury,

(01:43:25):
as the team put it, Davis says it was groin tightness,
and he says it's not serious. Atlanta one at Washington,
The Wizard's record is nine and forty three. Trey Young
had thirty five points fourteen assists. Orlando beat the Spurs
one twelve, one eleven. Oklahoma City's record forty two to nine.
After winning at Memphis, jay Giljes Alexander thirty two points,

(01:43:46):
Memphis ended Portland's six game winning streak, even though Anthony
Edwards was out with a sore hYP Tonite Jade McDaniels
had thirty points in the win. Golden State got thirty
four points from Steph Curry and twenty five from Jimmy
Butler at a win at Chicago, back to the five
hundred mark for the Warriors. Boston won at New York,
pulling away one thirty one one oh four forty points

(01:44:07):
for Jason Tatum. Christaps porzingis of the Celtics.

Speaker 4 (01:44:10):
Was out due to illness.

Speaker 9 (01:44:11):
Denver won at sixth straight to win at Phoenix thirty
points for Jamal Murray. Sacramento sent New Orleans to an
eighth straight loss one twenty three, one eighteen despite forty
points from Zion Williamson. Pelicans record twelve and forty and
the Clippers took the late game over Utah one thirty
to one ten Utah twelve and thirty nine. Guard Ben
Simmons will reportedly sign with the Clippers after a buy

(01:44:34):
out with the Nets. Giannis Antennacumpo of Milwaukee will miss
a fourth straight game on Sunday with a sore calf.
In the NHL, Carolina seven three over Utah, Dallas eight
three winners at San Jose. Tampa Bay won six three
at Detroit. Thomas Detrie leads the Phoenix opened by five strokes.
Jordan Speith has tied for second place. Yes The Eagles

(01:44:54):
activated defensive end Brandon Graham and the New Orleans Saints
will be meeting with Kellen mo again after the Super
Bowl for their head coach opening. We could have Alabama
as number one in college hoops come Monday. Third rank
Bama won at Arkansas eighty five eighty one. Tonight, the
top two had lost. Number one Auburn, which had won
fourteenth straight, lost at home today to six Thrangth Florida

(01:45:15):
ninety to eighty one. At Clemson tonight, Tiger's over number
two Dukes seventy seven seventy one. Clemson is now just
one game behind Duke in the ACC standings. Duke had
won sixteen straight games. Creighton beat number eleven Marquette Arizona
over Texas Tech in a top twenty matchup tonight, and
Kansas State beat number sixteen Kansas Miami Basketball one on

(01:45:37):
eleven in the ACC after losing at Louisville. Stanford edged
NC State, which is two and ten in conference, and
Seaton Hall is one and twelve in the Big East
after losing at Georgetown. And there was a top ten
women's hoops game tonight at USC. The women of Troy
dominated Ohio State eighty four to sixty three, as the
Buckeye shot twenty nine percent from the floor, but USC

(01:45:58):
starred Juju Watkins five of twenty one shooting again Super
Bowl tomorrow on Fox.

Speaker 2 (01:46:04):
Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve to Sacre
take you have a great evening. You'll be back with
Plank and Spaniard tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (01:46:11):
So what is that?

Speaker 2 (01:46:13):
What three o'clock Pacific, six eastern?

Speaker 9 (01:46:15):
Correct and kick off at roughly six thirty eastern. But
we'll be on top of it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:19):
Okay, you guys are talking anything else? Do you just
basically go play by play but not really go play
by play?

Speaker 4 (01:46:25):
I mean, how does that show up?

Speaker 9 (01:46:26):
Yeah, and a lot of what to look for and
what we're seeing from the coaches and what's worked and
what hasn't worked so far for said team. Throw in
some more of these trivia items that we sometimes bring
up on this show, and I'm sure we'll have more
to throw out because once we get a final, you know,
inevitably more trivia items come across. Well, we talked about

(01:46:48):
this last hour. What's amazing to me is if we
get a close game in the fourth quarter and if
Kansas City does not win, sure, in that situation, that
would be the definition of news.

Speaker 2 (01:46:58):
That would be the definition news. All right to Saga, Well,
thank you very much, have a great evening, and we
will speak with you on Sunday afternoon and Sunday evening.
Fox Sports Radio Er towards Jason Martin broadcasting live from
the Tireck dot Com studios. Okay, so before we got
to Sager Jamart, we were talking about all different hypotheticals.
What do we think of Nick Sirianni if they win,
if Philly wins, what do we think of Jalen Hurts.

Speaker 4 (01:47:18):
I want to kind of go the opposite direction.

Speaker 2 (01:47:20):
I want to play Devil's a oh well, not Devil's advocate,
but I want to ask a question that maybe seems
stupid and maybe is stupid. You know, I'm never willing
to not admit that maybe something I say set up
by you right now to say something really dumb. America
is on the edge of its seat. So Friday night,
I first saw this via People dot Com. That's People Magazine,

(01:47:44):
their website.

Speaker 3 (01:47:45):
That's where I go for my sports coverage.

Speaker 2 (01:47:47):
Well, a lot you can you could get to imagine
where this is going Double Date New Orleans, Patrick Mahomes,
Travis Kelce, Britney Mahomes, Taylor Swift. Obviously nobody cares, you know, well,
I mean somebody cares because it's in People magazine. But
does it become a story if the Chiefs win?

Speaker 4 (01:48:07):
Counter to that?

Speaker 2 (01:48:08):
Do you think it will become a story if the
Chiefs lose. In other words, like forty eight hours before
the Super Bowl. Yes, we understand that wives and kids
are in town, and I totally get that, but it
would be kind of interesting just publicly out there having
the time of their lives. Do you envision it being
a big deal if the Chiefs lose?

Speaker 4 (01:48:30):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:48:31):
Maybe stumped you? Yeah, Well I was thinking about it
because I'll say, remember the boat trip that the Giant yeah, odell, Yeah, yeah,
that was a story sure here because of the tailor
swift of it all. Yes, I think it does become
a story. I think that it becomes a very like
piece of low hanging fruit to try and explain away.

(01:48:54):
Maybe the Chiefs weren't quite as dialed in as they
needed to be in this game, you know, the stories
of the Philadelphia Eagles and other like I can see
those takes coming. So yes, I think it's a story.
Do I think it's like a story for everybody that
covers the game. No, but I definitely know people in
our industry that will for sure go down that pathway

(01:49:15):
if they lose. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:49:16):
You know, let me ask you before we get to
the final hypothetical. To me, I do feel like it's
a little bit metaphorical. I know, we had Dan Byron
who said, you know, probably whatever percentage he said, you
know a lot of people like Philly, but a lot
of them are also saying, can't bet against Mahomes and Kelsey.
But the fact that they did have that very public

(01:49:39):
dinner and again they're certainly allowed to hang out with
their wives and girlfriends at the Super Bowl. I get it.

Speaker 4 (01:49:45):
I kind of get the sense.

Speaker 2 (01:49:47):
I feel like a lot of people are kind of
just it's that it's already set in stone that the
Chiefs are gonna win. I know, you know, like you said,
you haven't consumed a lot of what people are picking
in the game. But you know, I'm seeing a lot
of media cover ridge of you know, yeah, if, if,
and when you know, this three peat becomes official or
what you know, what Dan Byer said, can't bet against
the Chiefs.

Speaker 4 (01:50:08):
It just feel you know.

Speaker 2 (01:50:09):
And then the other thing are the reports, And I
know Dan Byer debunked this a little bit, but that
the overwhelming presence this weekend on Bourbon Street has been
of Philadelphia Eagles fans.

Speaker 4 (01:50:19):
I just feel like there's.

Speaker 2 (01:50:21):
A little bit of foregone inevitability. The Chiefs are gonna win.
They always do. They always, to the Sager's point, win
the close ones. I don't know. I just feel like
it's feeling like the narrative feels like it's inevitable, even
though I think it's a far thing from it.

Speaker 4 (01:50:36):
Do you get that vibe at all or no.

Speaker 3 (01:50:38):
I don't know about the inevitability portion of it, but
I do think that we have gotten to a point
where it feels insane to pull or to pick against
that quarterback and that coach as a unit together, and
a lot of times Spagnolo doesn't get talked about, and

(01:50:59):
then he ends up coming up with two or three
play calls defensively that change a game entirely. We saw
that in Buffalo with the crazy play where Kincaid almost
made the catch that he probably shouldn't have made, just
because there's no reason for that ball to have even
gotten there, but somehow, Alan, because of this superhuman strength,
got it there. I think that's I think that's why.

(01:51:22):
I just think that because it's Mahomes, it's just like
he's gonna find a way. I don't know that that
is always true. The history of the past doesn't really
impact the future. I mean, it doesn't like if it happens,
it's like, wow, this is what he always does. But
those are all individual things that happened in the past.
He has not done that against this group of guys.

(01:51:44):
So at the same time, what was the thing that
I told you at the beginning of the season when
I picked the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl beating
the Green Bay Packers, I said, I will not be
dumb enough to pick against that guy again. So you
can add me to the list. He has done so
much to create this aura that somehow, some way, fifteen

(01:52:07):
is going to get the job done, somehow, some way,
they'll end up with the ball at the end, and
they'll have a chance to win it even if they're behind,
and he won't mess it up because he just doesn't,
and they'll have the right play call, everything will be
blocked perfectly, and the stars will align and they'll win. So,
I mean, I think that that's kind of the way
that it's perceived. But I don't think. I don't know.

(01:52:30):
I just I think that it's hard to say that
considering I also think most people believe Philadelphia is the
better football team, and so those two things don't work.
One of those two things is going to prove out
not to be accurate on this specific Sunday, Mahomes Magic
runs out, or the Eagles are actually somehow out schemed defensively,

(01:52:51):
somehow Spagnoloa is able to slow down Barkley, or there's
a couple of freak turnovers or something like that. So
that's why the games are played, because sometimes it just
doesn't work out the way it's supposed to be on paper.

Speaker 2 (01:53:03):
Well, I'll tell you what. That's a perfect segue into
our final segment of the show, super Bowl Picks. Torres
Martin make our final decisions. We'll discuss those next Fox
Sports Radio. Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio er Torris
Jason Martin broadcasting live from Thetirereck dot Com Studios. One

(01:53:24):
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see this show posted after we get off air. Fun show.
On that podcast, you hear Dan Byer live from New Orleans.
You hear Sean Brace from our Fox Sports Radio affiliates.
Everybody else has given their final prediction on the game,
J Mart, So we might as well do it ourselves. Mary,
give us some music, put us in the moon. J Mart,

(01:54:08):
I'm gonna give you the floor. What is your twenty
twenty five Super Bowl bink?

Speaker 3 (01:54:14):
What did I pick before the season? Jeers? I picked
the Chiefs before the season. Okay, the question I asked
off the top of this show. Can the Philadelphia Eagles
be the Tampa Bay Bucks team that just terrorized Patrick
Mahomes in a Super Bowl and just made his life
miserable running left and right, not being able to complete

(01:54:38):
pass This that was a thirty one to nine beat down.
That was an unwatchable football game. They did not have
a backway say Kwon Barklay. They had Leonard Fournette who
had a decent game, and of course they had maybe
the greatest quarterback of all time in Tom Brady. In
that ball game as well, and they had weapons. And
the Eagles have weapons, and they have Saquon Barkley, and

(01:54:59):
they've got an credible offensive line, and they've got the
best defense in the league. And I picked the Chiefs
before the season because Patrick Mahomes is that special. When
you just can't beat Patrick Mahomes in January and you
can't beat them in February either, so many people have tried.
I think they I'm taking Philadelphia.

Speaker 2 (01:55:21):
Oh wow, that's a bigger upside than if Philly actually wins.

Speaker 3 (01:55:26):
I picked Kansas City before the season, and I'm doing
the thing I said I would not do. I said
I would never pick against Patrick Mahomes again. But I
do think Philadelphia is Tampa Bay.

Speaker 2 (01:55:38):
Before we get to my pick, here is what Fox
Sports Radio Philadelphia host Sean Brace said earlier in our show.

Speaker 6 (01:55:46):
I think the Birds show forty plus.

Speaker 7 (01:55:48):
I think they smack them. They're a better football team.
They're gonna show it tomorrow. I'll say forty one twenty
seven Birds on top.

Speaker 4 (01:55:56):
Wow, thank you browsing In for pulling that clip.

Speaker 2 (01:56:00):
I don't know if the Birds are putting up forty one,
but Jay mart I'm doing it.

Speaker 3 (01:56:04):
Too.

Speaker 4 (01:56:05):
I'm taking the Eagles.

Speaker 2 (01:56:06):
And listen, it's funny because you mentioned, you know, be
picking against Patrick Mahomes. You and I did the postgame
show on Fox Sports Radio last year and we basically said,
you can't pick against the Phil the Kansas City Chiefs
at this point, you just can't.

Speaker 4 (01:56:18):
There's no reason to. But I'm doing it as well.
I just think, maybe, let me put it this way,
I think that.

Speaker 2 (01:56:26):
You can argue certainly that whatever whatever, I think, there's
this vibe in the air that it's inevitable. Eagles fans
have taken over Bourbon Street. I know Dan Byer said
it's a little closer to fifty to fifty than been reported.
But I think they're down there. I think they're ready
to win. I think the team is unafraid of Kansas City,
and I just go back to what we've talked about
for two weeks is they're better at potentially every position

(01:56:50):
except for quarterback.

Speaker 4 (01:56:51):
Now that's obviously there was a board play spot on
the field.

Speaker 2 (01:56:53):
And Andy Reid is a Hall of Famer and Nick
Sirianni to this point certainly is not. But I just
think better team think it's their time, and I'm with you,
I think Philadelphia wins this game.

Speaker 4 (01:57:03):
I really do.

Speaker 3 (01:57:04):
Yeah. Like I said, we could both be idiots and
picking against Patrick Mahomes is the dumbest thing that you
can do, maybe in all of sports right now. But
I agree with Sean Brace. I think that the Eagles
are clearly the better football team, and I think that
what they bring to this is the key that he said.
And I appreciate him for saying this because we have

(01:57:26):
dogged out other teams for doing the opposite of this.
He said, they're going to stand fast and they're gonna
stay with what brought them there. If they get away
from Sakuon Barkley, they're gonna lose. But if they are
vigilant and keeping the ball in his hands, even if
he struggles early, if they just keep on pounding it,
I think they're going to get the job done. And

(01:57:48):
him saying that gave me confidence. I believe that that's
exactly what's going to happen. I think sa Kuon Barkley
is likely to be the MVP of this game.

Speaker 2 (01:57:56):
And I think the other thing for me, I just
and I know it's easy to say, I don't think
they're I don't know why Sirianni is a little crazy,
but I think that's a good thing when you're facing
an all time great and coaching quarterback. I don't think
Philly is afraid, and I just go back. I know
we've said it three times just in this segment, but
they're better at virtually every position. And the other thing too.

(01:58:16):
Philly or Casey has not faced a defense like what
they're going to see in Philadelphia as well. Not saying
that Patrick Mahomes can't handle it, but I have the Eagles.
J mart has the Eagles, and yes, Sean Brace has
the Eagles. Speaking of which, Sean Brace Dan Byer joined us.
Make sure to download the podcast if you if you
want to catch up on anything that we talked about.
But we got to go ahead again, go ahead and

(01:58:36):
get out of here. Want to thank the crew, Ian
Mary Mack on the board, Steve Desager from my partner
Jason Martin, I'm Meren Taurus. Make sure to download the podcast.
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