Aaron Torres & Jason Martin preview OKC vs. Denver Game 7, Brock Purdy’s Contract, NBA Conspiracies & MORE!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Welcome man, everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday, Eric Turris,
Jason Martin. We are broadcasting live from the Fox Sports
Radio studios. Busy, busy, busy time of year. Uh, a
lot of stuff to get into tonight. J mart We got, uh,
obviously a game seven on Sunday. Caitlin Clark Versus Angelies,

(00:27):
NFL schedule release, Caleb Williams, Brock Purty, The list goes
on and on. What is going on, my friend, how
are you doing?

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Well, it's been a busy week and it's been a wild,
busy day for me, but a good one. Just ready
to sit down and this is weird, but sit down
and relax for a few minutes and talk sports. I'm
excited about it.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Well, I'm glad that I you know, I bring that
out of you, nice and relaxed, and yeah, let's dive in.
So I'll say this, you know, obviously, you know, you
and I have had the privilege of coming on after
so many big NBA Playoffs games here over the last
couple of weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
I was disappointed. I misread the schedule.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
I thought we had a game seven today and uh, yeah,
It was sometime yesterday that I realized that Game seven,
Denver versus Oklahoma City will not be until Sunday, three
thirty Eastern times. So I just kind of want to
lead the show by just talking about what will be
the biggest storyline going into tomorrow, coming out of tomorrow,

(01:26):
going into Monday morning.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
And we can kind of take this wherever you want.
But Gay, we do have a Game seven.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Denver, of course, played a Game seven in the previous round,
Thunder hosting the Denver Nuggets three thirty Eastern time. Denver
survived with a one nineteen one oh seven win the
other night. To for say game seven. When I say
game seven, Oka see Denver versus the Thunder, what immediately
jumps out to you?

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Well, Terror, because I'm a thunderfan and you know you've
got it in your building. But this has just been
one of those series and you just don't know on
any given night which one of these teams is gonna
show up. I will say, if Aaron Gordon is not
one hundred percent, that's a big loss for Denver in
this game. But you can't count out somebody like Jokic.

(02:14):
He certainly had some on and off games I think
he's been extremely tired this postseason, and you've seen that
come up in a few games. But then he comes
out and he has some just magnificent stuff even when
you feel like he's out of gas. So that's a
team that knows how to win a game seven. They've
done it already once this postseason. The question is are
the Thunder up for this challenge. I think that they are.

(02:39):
I do not expect this to be a game that
people will be turning off in the third quarter. I
do not expect this to be a game where one
team blows the other one out. I just don't. I
think both of them are going to show up. I
don't think you're gonna see quit out of either one
of these teams. And I don't think any lead is
safe anyway. So if it does get to twenty, stick
around either way. I'm gonna go with my guy. But

(03:00):
it is, it's a perfect game seven if you don't
have a dog in the fight. If you do, it's
gonna be a real tough Sunday.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Well, I don't have a dog in the fight, but
I will say I think you mentioned probably the most
important part.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Aaron Gordon left hamstring injury.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Obviously, you know, nobody's gonna say anything too definitive today,
but he is a game time decision, of course, Jamal
Murray coming into this game off of a you know,
great game six, but but you know, going through some
some illness stuff. Let's start with okay seed because obviously,
look number one seed, and I think, what's interesting. I
don't want to, you know, I don't I don't want

(03:38):
to do like the crazy hot takes before we even
have a result. But it is a conversation worth having.
Is that, on the one hand, they are the youngest
team to ever have a number one seed, and either
the Eastern or Western Conference started the season with an
average starting age of about like twenty four years old
and change. But this is obviously second straight year where

(04:02):
they've been very highly seeded coming into the playoffs. Last
year they lose to Dallas in round two. This year
they are playing Denver and are in a game seven.
I know it's always kind of hard to, you know,
to to have any sweeping conclusions on teams and organizations
and things without having seen the final result.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
But what do you think the conversation if they win?

Speaker 2 (04:24):
You know, they're supposed to win Game seven at home,
number one seed, whatever, if they were to lose this game, though,
do you think in your thunderfans, so this is kind
of why I wanted to bring this up. Do you
think it's one of those where you know, young team
just still figuring things out the deeper you get into
the postseason, or have you seen enough from this core

(04:45):
where you think a change of some significance would have
to be made.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
No, I don't think you can make a change here.
I mean, I think this is just the next step
in a team that's growing. They're still again very very young.
I think that that would be really rash, and I
think you would at least want to give this unit
one more crack, because I don't think that you're seeing
flaws that I think you're seeing some youth here, and

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you're seeing also a very veteran team that's already won
a championship, that has one of the greatest players we've
ever seen, certainly this century, but overall just one of
the greatest players ever suiting up for them, and a
great clutch playoff performer in Jamal Murray. I think the
bigger story, let's say you're right, let's let's say in

(05:31):
this hypothetical Denver wins. I think the more interesting thing
is Denver got it right with the moves that they made.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
I was gonna ask you that next.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yeah, I think you have to put it there now.
Obviously they could have still won, but it just seemed
like the toxicity that we have read about between Mike
Malone and the general manager and sort of the I'm
gonna do this just to spite you as opposed to
what should have been going on on the floor. I
think Mike malonell will end up still being a great
head coach where he goes. But I felt like Denver

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was not throwing in the towel by making that move.
I think they thought they didn't have a chance with them,
so there was nothing to lose, and maybe they could
just kind of improve the morale around that building. And
they're playing as good as we've seen. The only thing
is they still have an inconsistency issue where any given
night Denver looks like the best team of the world,
and then the next night they're just not on the

(06:24):
exact same way. So I think that that's maybe the
more interesting narrative is they end up in the Western
Let's say they end up in the Western Conference Finals,
considering they let their head coach and their general manager
just had all sorts of chaos, but in the last
couple of games of the regular season, that would be
quite a story in itself.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Well, yeah, and that was actually gonna be My next
question is, you know, there's obviously the you know, if
OKC wins they're supposed to. If they don't, you know,
there's going to be questions whether any moves are actually
made or not. As different conversation, but I was thinking
the same thing with Denver is you know, if they
were to win, if they were to advance to the
Western Conference Finals, I do think and you know, you
just said it. I'm not like saying this as it's

(07:03):
as if it's some amazing take, but I think the
decisions that were made late in the season were justified.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
Now I'll say this.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
You know, listen, we all are just kind of you know,
reading the tea leaves based on the stuff that has
been reported. But obviously, like you said, it felt like
by the time Mike Malone was fired that it felt
like a change was gonna be made in the offseason anyway,
And and and they just wanted to do it because,

(07:30):
as you said, it just got so toxic in the
building that it just felt like everybody needed a fresh start.
I guess you know this isn't the sexiest sports talk
radio topic, but you know, this obviously would have, in
theory been one of the most coveted jobs I think
we've seen in recent memory, with an envy, you know,
a multiple time MVP, still very much in his prime,

(07:51):
a lot of young talent around him, and Jamal Murray
and and and Michael Porter Junior and Christian Brown and whatever.
I mean, I think they're set up really well in
the bigger picture. Do you have any strong opinions on
like I kind of feel like if you're Denver and
I don't know what they will do, I don't know
who they would deem to be the candidate that they

(08:12):
would want, but I would think that Adaman's done a
good enough job to keep this job now. I'm sure
they'll consult with Jokichen some of the other kind of
veterans on that team. But I was thinking about that
is one if he makes the Western Conference finals, I
think it's hard for me to imagine a world where
he isn't back next year.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
But young guy we didn't know much about.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
I think he's done a pretty good job all things considered,
to have them on the doorstep of the Western Conference Finals.
And if he if they win, I think he keeps
the job. And I think even if they don't, he
certainly made a strong candidacy for it.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, I would agree. I mean, unless there is something
we don't know about how the team feels about him. Yeah,
if he makes the Western Conference Finals, I mean, he
has not stuck out like a store thumb in any way,
shape or form on the sidelines. And I think that's
that's what you wanted in this situation. It's like, can
he just kind of calm the ship? It's not even
right the ship. The ship wasn't necessarily wrong, it was

(09:01):
just rocking. It was just kind of in tumultuous waters.
So could he just sort of calm things down, be
another voice in the room, but also just sort of
let those guys go out there and do what they
do and coach to the best of visibility. And I
think that you're right. I don't know, like it's funny
if this were a different situation and Mike Malone's available

(09:22):
to say, well, maybe they go hire Mike Malone, but
they're the ones that fire I know, I know, so
I don't know where the name is. I don't know
what the name would be that would make you feel
better than the guy that you know stayed with it
through that timeframe and led you to the Western Conference finals.
So yeah, I would tend to thank Adelman. If he
doesn't get that job, then it's some candidate we're not

(09:44):
thinking about right now that's just a perfect fit, or
there's some kind of an issue behind the scenes with
Jokic specifically.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Any other quick thoughts on this game again, Game seven,
three point thirty Eastern on Sunday. I think the only
thing that really stands out to me is again it's
it's horror and we'll save our predictions for the end
of the show.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
We're on til two am Eastern.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
But I think not having Aaron Gordon, and you know,
I think a couple of things with Aaron Gordon is
a hamstring is something. I mean, I'm sure in theory
you can play, but when you're the defensive stopper against
you know, you know a team was as many weapons
as okay, see that to me just feels like the
X factor now maybe we get to tomorrow, maybe it

(10:26):
heals faster than expected. Maybe he's on the court and
we see no you know, no ill side effects or anything.
But I guess my only real big picture thought on
that game is it's just hard for me to see
with no Aaron Gordon then being able to slow down.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Okay, see at home.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
But any other big picture thoughts on this game as
we get ready for a game seven about what about
nineteen hours or so from now?

Speaker 1 (10:49):
I mean, I don't have anything major. Again, one take
that I don't like, and I've seen this from people
that I do like, but I do not like this
opinion because I think that, well, first off, it's just
it's too soon to say something like this. It's like,
whoever wins Game seven, that guy's the MVP. It's like, yeah,
but what if that guy scores seven and somebody else

(11:11):
goes off? Like what that take? I've seen that take
away too much, Like, yes, if Jokic goes out there
and has forty and the Nuggets win, I could see
your point. But if Jokicic goes out there and he
shoots five for nineteen.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
He hasn't been good in this series, by the way,
I mean, yeah, well, he's had a couple of good
games statistically, the stats are there, but there have been
a couple games where he's really struggled.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
But continue jam.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
But I mean it's very easy for the game to
go in a way where the MVP doesn't necessarily have
an MVP like game and the team still wins. So
I just it's maybe me splitting hairs a little bit.
I just kind of look at it and like, all right,
it's just Brian Winhorse. So I really like he's like
Jokic SGA game seven winner will be rightful MVP that

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I think that's lazy because we don't know the story
of the game yet. Like it very well could be.
But if both the guys go out there and have
fifty and then somebody has some bone headed play at
the end of the game, you're telling me that one
of those guys then distinguished themselves because their team won.
I just I don't like that argument. I don't think
it should be that way. Like there is definitely a universe,

(12:17):
you know this where Jalen Williams goes off in game
seven and SGA has for him kind of a pedestrian game,
like maybe he only has twenty one, Jokic has thirty
seven or something like that. But okay, see wins. Does
that prove anything about SGA and Jokic. No, it proves
that Jayalen Williams is good and the supporting cast really

(12:39):
showed up in a key game at home. So I
just that take to me, I don't think it's as
simple as whoever wins, that guy's the MVP. I think
that's a lazy take.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah, And I think you can go back to the
Minnesota some of the Minnesota games where ye, Anthony Edwards,
as we've discussed, has been good or maybe by the
end of the game, has a nice statistical line, but
it's other guys who have stepped up. And by the way,
that's a compliment to the other guys as much as
it is not a knock on Anthony Edwards. By the way,
since I'm sure we'll have some people tweeting because I
did say Jokic hasn't played well in this series.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
To be clear, he went for forty four fifteen.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
And five good yeah games, really good in six.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
Yeah, game five. In game six he was awesome.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Game four he was seven of twenty two from the field,
two of eight from three still finished with twenty seven
and thirteen, which for him is a good but not
great game. And then Game three earlier in the series,
that was the game where he went zero for ten
from three finished with twenty points.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
So I want to be clear.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
It's his bad games are like the top two percent
of all NBA games played. Of course, his best games
are the ones that we're talking about in game five,
in game six, forty four and fifteen, twenty nine, fourteen
and eight in the last two games.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
But again, uh, like I said.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
A couple couple, you know, a little bit of a
disappointing couple early games, especially in games that Denver or
Oklahoma or Denver. Yes, Denver did lose, so interesting series,
we'll preview it. I think the other thing worth noting Denver.
You know Game one, have that huge rally, Game three
year game Yeah, Game three winning overtime.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
So been a very close series.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
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(15:21):
little bit of pseudo late breaking news here. So obviously
Monday was the NBA Draft lottery, and of course that no, no, no,
we're gonna oh, we're saving the draft.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
I don't even need to say anything. I'll have to
do to start chuckling, and everybody knows exactly what I'm laughing.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
At Well, yeah, Mary Mack, you might want to get
some X files music ready for our three because we're
gonna be talking a lot of conspiracy theories.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
That is, that is already on point. That is what we're.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Gonna need for the entire first segment of our three.
So I appreciate you being prepared and ready to go.
But what was an interesting side product of the NBA draft,
which obviously netted the MAVs the number one overall pick,
which just a one point eight percent chance to get it.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
But that's for another hour. We'll save that conversation.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Was that that morning we found out that Janis Antennakupo,
through a report from Shams Tarania, was at least for
the first time in his career, open to the idea.
It got kind of a vague report, but essentially open
to the idea of looking into trade possibilities. And obviously
it broke the day of the NBA lottery, we figure

(16:30):
out the draft order whatever, well, I bring it up
because just fifteen minutes ago, Chris Haynes, who of course
does all sorts of good work in all sorts of places,
tweeted out that Yannis and will Yannis will have a
very crucial meeting scheduled next week with the Milwaukee Bucks. So,
in other words, Janis and the Bucks will meet face
to face this week to kind of, you know, for

(16:54):
lack of a better term, I don't know if map
out his future with the organization map out his future
with another organization. But this feels big because, as we said,
Yanni seems open to a trade.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
For the first time in his career. What was your
reaction to that news that broke Monday morning.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
I mean, I wasn't surprised by it, and it seemed
like people were saying the other thing, that the team
should be open to it, and then you saw the
Yanna side of it. I went and listened to the
Chris Hayes audio or Chris Haynes audio during the break
and basically just saying, look, what Yannis wants is multiple championships.
He just wants to He wants a team around him
that that can compete year in and year out to

(17:35):
win a championship. And so I'm thinking about that in
my head, and I'm thinking, all right, well, he doesn't
have one right now, all due respect the Dame, but
that's just not something you can rely on in the postseason.
It just isn't it never really has been. He's always
so banged up because he's played so many minutes during

(17:56):
the season. He had to do so much in Portland
they would be worn out by the time they got
to the playoffs, and now he just has a ton
of basketball mileedge and he's just his body. Is I
just I would not be able to trust that. And
then you look at like the third options and things
that's an older team now where you just don't really
love the pieces. Maybe the way that you used to

(18:17):
the coaching situation is not good there either. So if
I'm honest, I'm looking at it and I'm saying to myself, yeah,
I don't think I can win here. So then the
question is, are are you going to be able to
pitch something to them where they can go out and
make something happen there, or is it I think it's
time for us to mutually part ways. And the team says,

(18:38):
all right, how can we make this work for you
as best as possible because he has been great for
them and great to them, but then it has to
be it has to be worth it for them. And
so whether it's San Antonio and the second overall pick
and maybe even Castle or somebody else or you know
who knows. There's the Mavericks thing out there, which I
think is insane. And then the possibility Houston Rockets are

(19:02):
really wanting Yannis to go with some of their talent
because obviously they're a team that's on a come up.
They feel like you bring in a Giannis, you go
win a championship. But it doesn't surprise me because the
Bucks really haven't been a factor for the last few years.
Yiannis is still really good, but that team, that team
now just doesn't look like the team from a couple
of years ago. So no part of this really is

(19:25):
too shocking. And if you're the Bucks, you have to
find a way to maximize what you're gonna get. If
he's gonna leave, and I think you have to sit
him down and be like, are you gonna leave us?
And what can we do to keep you? If they're
indeed trying to make that work, But they've got to
move in while they can still get assets back, so
they don't get you know, Kevin duranted like Oklahoma City
did years ago.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Yeah, I'm looking right now trying to pull up Jiannis.
It looks like Giannis is under contract through the end
of twenty seven to twenty eight or twenty six twenty
seven excuse me, so two more seasons under contract, then
he will have a player option in twenty seven to
twenty eight. Yeah, you know, listen, I think that, you know,
the report for people just joining us, the report is

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only that they are going to meet face to face.
This report coming about five six days after we learned
that Jannis for the first time in his career, would
be open to a trade. And I guess I'm kind
of with you, j mart Is One. I mean, I'm
not surprised. I mean, listen, you know, I do feel
like and I'm not one of these that, like, you know,
clamors for oh, you.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
Know, trade this guy.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
You know, like, like, I think a lot of these
trades you and I have talked about for years, like
they get blown into something that they aren't, and like, listen,
good players get traded, like Luca is an incredible player,
but I thought what it meant for the Lakers was
over sold, and so I only bring it up because
with the honest you know, listen, I would love for
it to be a perfect world where guys stay with

(20:52):
the team, with this team that drafted him their whole career,
it does feel like that situation has seemingly run its course.
Now how much of it is Giannis's fault, you know,
he's he's demanded some things or or or you know,
push for some things to say the least that that
haven't worked out. Well, I don't know, but I think
that's just my thing with the Bucks is that I
just watch him and it just feels like it's kind

(21:13):
of run its course, and it doesn't really feel like
there's an easy fix to to to to what's going on,
you know, where you look at some of these other
teams that that feel like, you know, even like the
Nuggets right, like all the pieces are there the for
whatever reason, Mike Malone just wasn't pushing the right buttons.
I don't think the Bucks have the right coach. That

(21:34):
goes without saying I think most would agree, But I
don't even think Giannis really has much in terms of
a supporting cast around him that makes me confident that
they'll figure things out. So I'm not surprised that he's
open to this possibility.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
The report this evening is that they will meet this
week but it just kind of feels like that whole
situation has run its course. I mean, I you know, again,
I wish he could spend his whole career there. Love
the you know, love the story of him coming to Milwaukee,
we all know it, but it just kind of feels
like it's running its course at this point.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
Yeah, I mean, I just I don't think that there.
I just feel like it's definitely peaked. They have kind
of plateaued off, but now they just seem to be
on the downslid, like you move on from Middleton. And
I get that because Middleton, again, he was having health
issues and I always felt like he was more a
two and a half than a two at best. But
it just the Dame thing just hadn't worked. And the

(22:25):
doctor Rivers thing definitely hasn't worked. And if you're honest,
you're not getting younger. Do you realize he's been with
the Bucks for twelve years. That's longer than you think
his career has actually been, Like I don't, I don't
feel like he's been in the league for twelve years,
but he has time flies and so he wants to
go grab a couple more rings and if it's not
gonna be a Minnesota just because of just the things,

(22:46):
a couple of big moves, a couple of big swings
that haven't paid off. I feel like this will be
relatively easy in terms of I don't think there's gonna
be a whole lot of hurt feelings here. I mean,
he brought them. I mean, you know, they helped build
that business district up there, They won that championship, the
Bucks became relevant for the first time basically ever, He's

(23:10):
done everything that you could possibly want if you are
Milwaukee brass and things like that. I feel like they'll
try to do as right by him as possible if
that's the way it is. But ultimately it's business, so
they're going to take whatever the best offer is. But
I do think that if he goes, he won't stay
in the East. If there's a move, I think he
will go to the West, whether it's Houston or San Antonio.

(23:32):
He said he didn't want to go. He liked the
idea of going somewhere without a state income tax. So
Texas fits in a number of ways. And wouldn't you know,
the Spurs just happened to get the number two pick
in the NBA draft on Monday, just out of the blue.
It's kind of exactly what you would need if you
were Milwaukee.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
And oh, by the way, like it is worth noting,
the MAVs clearly have a very small window here with
the core that they have, and would obviously the number
one pick I think would be a pretty attractive true.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
I mean it would, yeah, but I mean Cooper Flag's white,
so whoh yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
No, I mean I did see a sports commentator say
that for no other reason, that's why the Dallas Mavericks
have to draft him, not that he was National Player
of the Year.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
That led Well, now, I will push back on that.
I think that some people took that and ran with
it too much. I listened to the audio. I went
and listened to the commentator in question, and he didn't
say it was just because of that. He said, when
you do that, plus this guy's a bad man, you
don't let that go. So I will give him credit
for saying he does recognize the guys really good at basketball.

(24:37):
Still a dumb thing to say, don't get me wrong,
But I'm not gonna it wasn't just because of that.
It was just a focus of what he was talking about.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
It was it certainly made headlines, headlines that we will
save for another show, not tonight. Fox Sports Radio air
towards Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios,
will come back, pay off the teas from about fifteen minutes.
Go Nicks in the Eastern Conference Finals, and there's a
lot to discuss that's next before we do the let's
get over the news desk, fresh off of vacation with

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a tan Steve the Sager.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
What's up, buddy, Not quite on the ladder, but thank
you very much. Good to be back on the show,
and hello gentlemen, and we'll get to baseball and a
lot of late night baseball still to talk about. But
first the NHL Playoffs. The second round series has ended
in overtime at Dallas Stars eliminate Winnipeg two to one.
The game winning goal came on the power play, so
the Stars take the series four games to two, and

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Jets goalie Connor Hellibuck on the road this season postseason
I should say, went win listed oh and six. Dallas
will play Edmonton again in the West Finals that'll start Wednesday.
The Dallas Stars following a loss this postseason five and oh,
there is a Game seven on Sunday night, Florida at Toronto.
The winner goes to the East Finals, starting Tuesday against Carolina.

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The NBA Second Round ends on Sunday with a Game
seven Denver at Oklahoma City, and Denver's Aaron Gordon is
questionable for Sunday with the strained hamstring. Journalism the favorite
won the Preakness coming from behind late and at the
PGA Championship in Charlotte, Scottie Scheffler is the leader by
three strokes after a third round sixty five now of
the late night Major League Baseball, the Colorado Rockies were

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two and twenty one on the road. They have just
won in a comeback at Arizona fourteen to twelve, a
combined thirty four hits in this game. That means there's
just one game still going, and the Angels have just
retaken the lead at Dodger Stadium nine to seven over
La top of the seventh with some scoring off of

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reliever Kirby Yates, who's just given up a three run homer.
Seattle won four to one at San Diego cal Rawley
his fifteenth home run of the season. San Francisco gets
a ten inning win against the A's one nothing on
a basis loaded walk, the loss to closer Mason Miller. Boston,
with a comeback on a solo homer bottom of the ninth,
beat Atlanta seven to six. Ralphael dever is the hero

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that ends Boston's four game losing streak. Minnesota won its
thirteenth game in a row, seven to nothing at Milwaukee.
The Twins had pitched thirty three straight scoreless innings. The
Mets beat the Yankees three to two today with a
run in the top of the ninth save to Edwin Diaz,
and Washington won ten to six at Baltimore after the
Orioles fired manager Brandon Hyde. The team has now lost

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five in a row with a record of fifteen and
twenty nine.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve Disager. This
is Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday, Aaron Tours Jason
Martin broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Let's
get to the big NBA story from Friday night. J
mart nicks just a dominant, dominant, dominant victory in Madison
Square Garden against the Boston Celtics.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
First of all, let me ask you this.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
You know, I think there's a lot of fun basketball
conversations to be had about the Knicks. I genuinely enjoy them.
I saw some, you know, I think it was more
of an online thing. I don't think I saw like
media members pushback, but that Knicks fans were a little
too excited about a win that simply got them to
the Eastern Conference Finals. Do you have a problem with

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Knicks fans basically basically about to tear burn down Madison
Square Garden to the ground over a win that simply
got them to the Eastern Conference Finals.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
No, I don't, because they haven't been there in so long.
I think that's part of it. You had it in
the home building, got it done with that group, and
you beat that team that you don't like. The only
thing that it's always gonna have that like kind of
do you really celebrate it when Jason Tatum's not even playing?

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That might be the only thing I would say. But
the Knicks, the way they played even before Tatum got
hurt in this series, the way they have just kind
of coalesced, and I don't really have that much of
a problem with it. I don't because it's just the
next step in this It's we see a lot of
teams that show up and then the next year they're
not able to duplicate the feet and they've actually exceeded it.

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They've actually gotten one more round. And now we're going
to get a rematch of that great series from last year,
that next Pacer series, and I think I think it's
gonna be a great Eastern Conference Finals. I got a
crazy prediction about it. I'll give you a point, but no,
I just think those fans have been waiting for a
long time. I will tell you one Knicks fan that

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irritated the stuffing out of.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
Me, Arty Spanning that game, Artie Spander. It's got to
be span No. Oh, oh, the same guy is wearing.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
He was wearing a New York Giants letter jacket in
the crowd with sunglasses that vaunted giant Russell Wilson. I
saw him show up on camera and I was just like, dude,
you can't be serious. I immediately thought, like, I loved
Russell Russell in college. You know, I went to NC

(29:58):
State for a few years, so obviously I followed him.
I liked what he was about. He went to Wisconsin,
like what he was about when he got Seattle. Kind
of liked what he was about. Then he goes to Denver,
my football team. I'm trying to buy his jersey. They
don't have the right one. I make comments about it
on the air. I'm just like so frustrated that they
don't have the stitched jersey that I want for us,

(30:20):
that I could put in my collection. And now I'm
so thankful they never made one because I didn't buy it,
because it just keeps on going downhill. It's just like, dude,
don't put on the Giant's letterman jacket. You've never suited
up for them before. Like, I don't even know if
you're ever gonna suit up for them now. I have
no idea what's gonna happen. But it's just the phone.

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It's the example of like doing like calisthenics any airplane
and all those stories that we heard. It's like everything
is so phony. It feels like it's like, dude, you're
not a Giant. You can go to the Knicks game,
but dressed like a human being. This is not saved
by the bell, Like, this is not base side versus Valley.

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That was the most ridiculous thing. Who even wears letter
jackets anymore? My man's in a Giants, letterman jacket, like
he's been in New York his entire life. And I'm
just like, Russ, Russ, Russ, what is going through your brain? Pal?

Speaker 2 (31:14):
That was a plot twist. I wasn't ready for the
Russell Wilson, the Russell Wilson basting, but I will say
I did notice that as well, and uh, yeah, you
know with Russ, all I'll say is, you know I
I for years tried to defend him. I felt like, hey, man,
like at some point, you know, I said, for years,
like the high knees thing everybody freaked out about, but

(31:37):
I was like, yeah, if it was Joe Burrow, it
would be the coolest thing on the Internet, and everybody
would be talking about, Oh Joe Burrow, he's so cool
with the hind But I will say, when.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
You're on team what is it four? Team five?

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Now Team four, and it's like, you know, we talked,
we talked about we'd have to do a Russell Wilson
thing here, but like there's now two many any examples
of too many you know, weird endings teammates bashing him
on the way out where where Yeah, it's pretty hard
to defend that guy. And I think at some point
it becomes obvious that what he was a you know,

(32:13):
what everyone has said about him over the last couple
of years has been true. Fox Sports Radio Aertors Jason Martin,
broadcasting live from the ty Fox Sports Radio Studios.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
We will revisit Nicks.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Versus Pacers later in the show because I want to
hear what you got to say, j mart But when
we come back, the big NBA sports media story of
the week, the return of the Goat MJ NBC. That's next.
Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports Radio er

(32:45):
Tors Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios.
How about Mary Mack pulling the pull from before she
was born. Yeah, he's trying to step in and try
to take credit for Mary Max's hard work.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
I see how it is playing on my computer right now. Okay,
I'm gonna be so real gen z moment. I've never
heard the song before. Wow, this was like the most
famous commercial probably literally of the nineties.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
So I don't know if I go quite that far,
but it's definitely into the state. It's definitely very well known.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Yeah, I want to be like Mike. It was a
Michael Jordan commercial, Thank you producer, Bree, great work. What
would you say was more famous? Bow nos bo No's
is probably a little.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
We just talking about sports commercials.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
Well, I don't know, I mean I'm not a sports commercials.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Then yeah, i'd probably say it's this, But I mean
what else you got to think about? Like the Budwiser fraud.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Oh, that's good, that's good, that's good.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
I mean there's there's still a lot. I mean, there
was a lot of pretty the Energizer Bunny Keeps nineties
going like, yeah, there's been there's been a lot of
good ones. This is definitely iconic, no question about it.
I'd say in the sports side, it would definitely be
this one. And like the Charles Barkley role model commercial

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from the I don't know that may have been the eighties,
the eighties, the early nineties where he says I don't
want to be a role model. Those are probably the
two sports ones. And then of course you had Dan
versus Dave yep, the Olympics stuff that didn't really pan
out particularly well, but yeah, be like Mike's definitely definitely
way up there. You also had the Milk ads. Those

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are also iconic, Yes, so I could keep going. But no,
that's okay.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Nineties nostalgia. I mean, that's the theme of this segment
because Mack Jordan back in the game. It was announced
earlier this week he will be a contributor remember NBC
next next year, it'll be ESPN, ABC, NBC and Amazon
that have the NBA package. Turner and TNT are out.

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I guess I'll I'll just ask you Michael Jordan's signing
on as a contributor to NBC's coverage of the NBA.
I got a lot of thoughts, I don't you know.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
I just I don't know. I just got a lot
of different thoughts.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
But Michael Jordan, like I said, a little nineties nostalgia
with the with the intro music, and some nineties nostalgia
with the NBA on NBC next year. J Martin, what
do you take away from this piece of news?

Speaker 1 (35:13):
I mean, it's good news. It's really exciting. I just
want to know what it means. I think that using
the word contributor is so vague that it makes me
think if it was something massive, you would have told
me he's not gonna be in the booth. If he
was in the booth, we would have heard that if
he was going to be in like the analyst chair

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on television, like inside the NBA, guys, I think we
would have heard that this is gonna be something else.
I don't know if it's going to be like pre taped.
I don't know if he's going to sit down with
players and try to do interviews. I'm not exactly sure
what this is gonna be. I'm certainly all here for it,
but I have a feeling this is not going to
be as big a deal as some are thinking, because

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anything that would have made this more exciting, I feel
like they would have told you. And so that means
one of two things. One it's not that big, or
two they don't have it fully decided because Michael hasn't
agreed to anything specific yet.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
Yeah. So that's actually my takeaway as well, is that.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Is that it doesn't feel like it's gonna be a
major role like you almost you know, sometimes like I
can't think of a great example, but sometimes there'll be
like an old school broadcaster that's either out of the
game or phasing out of the game, and it's like, oh,
we're bringing on Bob Costas is a contributor and it's like, well,
it's kind of vague. We don't know what he's doing,
and it's not gonna be very much. I don't I'm

(36:38):
with you is that I'm intrigued, but I don't know
exactly what to make of it because I don't know
what he's gonna be doing.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
And I'll just be honest, Jymart, I kind of I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
I'm glad it's happening, but I feel like it could
lead to a little bit of disappointment.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Is I don't know, you better measure your expectations is
kind of my feeling going into it. I'll tell you
what would be phenomenal. It won't happen. But if he
did the Peyton Manning thing and you had Georgan doing
his version of Manning cast, that would be phenomenal. But
that's not what this is going to be. Like I've
been trying to figure out, like how I would describe

(37:17):
what I think this is, and it's like when I
hear a contributor, I think of like Rick Riley during
a golf major doing some kind of piece for like
five minutes where he's talking about something, and Rick Rawley
was always entertaining to listen to and things like that.
But I feel like it's going to be something specialized
and something very limited per broadcast that he's on. Like,

(37:39):
I don't think he's going to be on there hours
and hours. He's gonna have some kind of commentary or
analysis and yeah, I'm all I want to hear what
Michael Jordan has to say. I am super excited about it.
I'm just trying to keep my expectations in check because
I feel like you're setting yourself up for disappointment if
you think this is like him joining inside the NBA
or something.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
I don't think he's gonna be in studio and you know,
to me, without knowing, my guess is it's some sort
of I would think maybe like an interview series where
you know, Celtic's Knicks Game one, Maybe he's maybe he's
the guy that gets Jalen Brunson for the like eight
minutes sit down, you know, But I don't think it's
in any sort of analyst role. Let me ask you

(38:22):
this really quick. Do you think it do you think
the timing? Do you think it's an NBC thing? Because
I think to me, it's more of a nostalgia NBC
thing because there have been people and I know we're
up against it.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
So I'll try to be quick here that it's.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Somehow, some sort of Lebron is coming to the end
of his career, and you know, I think Lebron at
this point it's hard to make the goat argument.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
Do you think it has anything to do.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
With something Lebron related or are people just pulling stuff
out of there?

Speaker 3 (38:47):
You know what.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
I think that's fun, but no, not not particularly like
I think NBC and Michael Jordan have been close for
a very very long time. Ahmad Rashad's entire career was
built off of Mike Jordan. So NBC getting this back
this makes all the sense in the world that this
is where Jordan would step back in. So I would

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love to think there's just some kind of rivalry here
where he wants to step in. For a timing standpoint,
I just think the timing only has to do with
the fact that NBC it's going to be doing the
NBA again and that's just always been where he's been
the most comfortable.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Yeah, I agree, and I will say I'll add exactly
what you said to lead the segment, is that if
it was some huge role. I think we would have
more clarification, but hey, it's a heck of a name.
It's certainly interesting. Now we get to see what Michael
Jordan does in the media. Fox Sports Radio Eron Tors
Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios.
We'll come back look at a busy couple days in

(39:47):
the NFL. We've all seen the Caleb Williams story, We've
all seen the Brock Purty extension. There's a lot to discuss,
plus maybe a little Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
That's all. Next.

Speaker 5 (40:00):

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Welcome man, everybody. Our two Turres Martin, Fox Sports Radio.
Busy night, busy week in sports. If you missed any
of our one talked a lot about what's going on
in the world of the Association. Denver OKC Game one

(40:28):
on Sunday afternoon, three p thirty Eastern kind of gave
us some quick previewing thoughts there.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
We will give our official pick later on in the show.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Also, Jannis and the Bucks reportedly set to meet. According
to Chris Haynes, we discussed a little bit of that.
And oh, by the way, Mjay returning to the booth,
the Knicks returning to the Eastern Conference Finals. If you
missed any of that, make sure to go back and
download the podcast. With that said, uh do want to
switch gears to some NFL. It was a busy week. Obviously,

(40:57):
the schedule came out. We'll talk about that a little
bit later. Brock Purty gets paid. But the story that
I think caught everybody's attention is, you know, I think
something that had been out there, but I don't know
that we had this many concrete details. That is the
story of Caleb Williams, his father and they're push to

(41:18):
not get the Chicago Bears to draft him. Two years ago.
This was part of a book by Seth Wickersham. Some
stuff came out about it, but among the things that
we learned, Carl Williams, Caleb's dad said, quote, Chicago's the
place quarterbacks go to die again. The book is called
American Kings of Biography of the Quarterback, and there were

(41:39):
all sorts of little notes in there. Again, some of
which I think we knew, some of which I don't
think we knew. Basically, they try to figure out every
which way for Caleb Williams not to go to the Bears,
whether it was not being in the draft, playing in
the UFL. J Martin, you and I have joked for
years about, you know, the u trying to become a

(42:01):
relevant league that would certainly have made it that way,
kind of trying to figure out ways around the collective
bargaining agreement. So I could go on and on, but
by now everybody has seen the story or knows the
loose details.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
What had been.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Reported is now essentially official that Caleb Williams and his
dad did pretty much everything they could to avoid being
a Chicago Bear in last ye's draft.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
All right, So first off, Carl Williams is right, that
is where quarterbacks go to die. We can go ahead
and admit that before we go any further. Even guys
that were good before they got there go there and
they still end up not doing very much. Jay Cutler
comes to mind. All right, So past that, I'm gonna
take this from a different, different angle. Immediately, I am

(42:47):
not bothered by this in the least because I've seen
this before, and I've seen it work out before. Jim
Kelly famously did not want to go to Buffalo, had
no interest in it. It all hated the cold Weather was
upset when he was drafted, publicly, like on record after

(43:07):
he was drafted, did not like this at all. And
he's one of the most beloved figures in the history
of that city. And now he's just like, I'm so thankful,
I'm so grateful that you gave me a chance after
I said the kind of stuff that I said about
you after the fact. This becomes a perfect platform if
Caleb Williams now because he is with the Bears, if
Ben Johnson unlocks him, and I love what Ben Johnson

(43:29):
had to say about this too. Ben Johnson said, I'm
so excited we've got Caleb here. He's gonna be the
first four thousand yard passer in Paris history. That's a
great line. That is a great confident line. And there's
no reason for it not to say it. Because he
just did a whole lot in Detroit Wright with Jered Goff.
There's no reason to think that he's not going to
be able to unlock Caleb Williams. So what happened here is, yeah,

(43:52):
they were trying to manufacture the best situation for them,
and Chicago was a mess. Dude, it was a mess
last year. They kept the wrong coach, Everything about the
situation was bad. I don't blame him for not wanting
to go to Chicago. It's easy for us to say,
you know, you just go where you're drafted. Yeah, well,
I mean he did, but did he want to go there?

(44:12):
Did Zion want to go to New Orleans? Course not?
And we see how that's worked out. So I'm just
the people that are like, somehow upset about this, I
think they need to back off. I think they need
to back down because I think they're wrong, and I
think this becomes a great story for redemption because even
if Chicago fans are now upset, if Caleb goes out
and balls out, not only is all going to be forgiven,

(44:33):
but Caleb's going to be able to say the right
stuff to their face after winning games, and it's going
to be fine. If he loses. They're gonna hate him
either way, so it's not gonna matter. But I just again,
as soon as I saw this, I immediately thought of
that Jim Kelly story and how well that worked out
for Buffalo and for Jim Kelly, and just became part
of this great storyline of his career, and I think

(44:55):
the exact same thing could potentially happen for Caleb Williams.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
All Right, so I'm gonna give you, I'm gonna take
it in a little bit of a different direction. I
actually agree with you one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
I think the story is interesting, but I don't think
it's interesting for the reasons people think. Okay, I'm gonna
give you a very random anecdote that I think you'll remember.

Speaker 3 (45:14):
You might not, but whatever, do.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
You remember when Kawhi Leonard was a free agent fresh
off that Toronto Raptors championship and I think what was
an uncle or something that was kind of doing the negotiations,
and the uncle was uncle.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
I can't remember what the guy's name is. He's out
in LA Yes, yeah, that's like the only guy. He
was kind of that way in San Antonio. But that
dude was handling everything and he was the only guy
that knew.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
What was going on and if there was all sorts
of crazy requests. We need this much private airtime, you know,
we need this Like I think they wanted like the
team to pay off his mortgage in blah blah blah.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
This isn't that.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
I only bring it up, because yes, it was crazy,
but he was Kawhi Leonard at a point in his career,
which we talked about a few weeks ago, ironically enough,
where he might have been the best basketball player on
the planet, and so he had all of the leverage
in that situation. And so I think it's easy now
for Caleb Williams, after a disappointing rookie year, after a year,

(46:11):
by the way, where the number two pick in the
draft not only outplayed them but just might be a
better quarterback, for us to sit here and say that
this is the craziest, most preposterous thing we've ever heard.
But the bottom line is, when all of this happened,
Caleb Williams was believed to be a generational prospect. And
to your point, there is nothing factually incorrect about the

(46:33):
idea that Chicago is a place where quarterbacks go to die.
And so Caleb Williams and his family at that time
had some degree of leverage and they tried to use it.
And so to me, yeah, if your career is going
to be defined by like you know, you me de Segur,

(46:55):
any host on these airwaves, we're lucky enough where we
get to make this decisions based on what we believe
is best for our careers independent of whatever. And what
I mean by that is, if for some reason we
thought Fox Sports Radio wasn't the right fit for us
or whatever, we don't have to be here. We weren't
drafted by Fox Sports Radio out of journalism school, and
this is where we had to go. And so Caleb

(47:17):
Williams only gets one career. Caleb Williams only has one
opportunity to reach his potential, and he had all of
the leverage in that situation. And so I have absolutely
zero problem with him and his family trying to leverage that,
you know, the leverage that he had to put himself

(47:38):
in a better situation. Now, what we also learned is
that Ryan Poles and the Chicago Bears basically told him
to kick Rocks. And so again, I you know, it's
almost the reverse Shador where S thought he had leverage
and had absolutely zero and it came back to bite him.
But this is a case where he did have leverage,
he tried to take advantage of it. It didn't work out,

(48:00):
you know, he wasn't able to use that leverage. But
this was a long winded way of just me saying
that I have no problem with it because any time
in life that you not only have leverage, but you
know that you're going to a situation that might not
be advantageous to you, you're going to try to take
advantage of it, are you not?

Speaker 1 (48:17):
Jmark? I mean yeah, Eli Manning famously didn't want to
go to the Chargers. John Elway, I'm a Broncos fan.
John Elway didn't want to go to the Colts. Like,
this is not the first time that this has happened.
It will not be the last time that this has happened.
I understand, like we said, I understand why he wouldn't
have wanted to go to Chicago. And you're right, he's

(48:40):
never going to have more leverage than being the number
one pick.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
And the definitive It wasn't like, you know, I can't
think of a good example, but like we can again
use revisionist history to claim that Jaden Daniels is this
or that, but there was no doubt that he was
going to be the number one pick. And so it's
not as though there was five guys in the conversation
and putting something like that out was only going to

(49:03):
hurt his draft stock.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
He was going number one. I didn't mean to cut
you off, but I think that's important context.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
Yeah, and again, I think the other part that's important
here in context is he played for the Bears last year.
They didn't want to go, but he still played when
he got drafted, and that's the story. Like he didn't
sit out wine Sulk refused to play anything like that.
He gave it his all. It wasn't a great year,
and he had the wrong head coach, and he took

(49:31):
a whole lot for that too. A lot of people
were just like, oh man, Jaydon Daniels way better than them.
I mean, we're going to see he may be Jadon
Daniels may well be a better quarterback, there's no question.
But Caleb Williams, We're going to see better this year
from him. I'm almost assured of it. Like I feel
very certain that Caleb's going to have a much better
year this year. And I look at this and I'm like,

(49:52):
this will be a fun part of the Caleb Williams
story if he does get successful, because it just makes
the whole thing better. Like it's just it it's a
little bit of color to it, adds a little bit
of drama to it, just a little extra twist in
the middle of the book, but there's still so much
to be written after this fact that it's just when
I saw this, I'm like, I don't blame Carl Williams.

(50:13):
I don't blame Caleb Williams either. I mean, Chicago was
a dumpster fire of an organization for so long, and yeah,
like and also the fans are so starved, Like he
was gonna walk in, He's gonna have a ton of
expectations on his shoulder around an organization that's been a
garbage dump for such a long period of time. So

(50:34):
there have been moments where I thought Carl Williams has
stepped in it and said some things and done some
things that weren't particularly good for his son. This one,
I'm just kind of like, yeah, I kind of see
where he's coming from.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Well, and i'd add too, you know I think that Listen,
let me put it this way. I think even the
Bears realize that the Bears are the place, you know, like,
look at how they've drafted, Look at the coach that
they just hired, Look at how they drafted after they
hired that coach. So so yeah, I don't know, Like
I just I think it's an interesting story, but I just,

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you know, I don't see and I don't think like
like we have people in our business that fake outrage
and fake takes and you know whatever, I don't I
think there were people in our business that don't generally
just make up a take for the sake of a conversation.
That seemed to be genuinely upset by this. And I
don't know if it's because we kind of knew this

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happen and maybe this is just the best most definitive
reporting we've had on it, or if I don't know,
I just it feels like people are upset by this,
and it's like he had the leverage.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
It didn't work out. Deal with it.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
Now, By the way, you know, there is a little
bit more pressure on you, you know, like, you know,
I think it's a little easier to quote unquote root
against Caleabo. But by the way, the other thing too is,
you know, I always think we have to be careful of,
you know, attacking And I understand all these guys are
making money now, but attacking the nineteen.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
Twenty twenty one year old right when the parent is
acting in the manner that.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
He dude, this is the I mean, that's Nico exactly.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
That's exactly what I was thinking of.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
Yet yeah, I mean really like That's why we both
said it repeatedly on the show when we talked about
the Nico story, this being Nico ya mala yama liava is.
It was his it was his parents, it was his representation.
If you read those stories, I felt sorry for Nico, Like, yeah,
he had to make his own decision. He made the
wrong one in my opinion, Tom will tell, But I

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felt like he never really had a chance, Like everything
was being orchestrated above him and it wasn't on him.
Plus he's so young, and of course he's going to
listen to his own family. Hopefully this will be the
last time that he does that. But I mean this,
this kind of stuff has happened before. Again, remember Zion,
Like the stuff about his family that was coming out
after the draft or even before the draft, that they

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weren't happy about this, and they weren't happy about that.
And I mean John Moran, it's dad like hanging out
at games on the floor like all of Alburns. Yeah,
say Haliburn's dad. Yeah, yeah, Like this is not new.
This is not like parents sometimes overstep their bounds and
do some things that are harmful to their own children,

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and in this case, I don't think Carl Williams did.
But this, this is not new either. Like I think
there's some pearl clutching going on. If anybody's really upset by.

Speaker 3 (53:28):
This, yeah, I agree. And here's the last last thing
I'll just say on this.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
I don't think if you don't think it's a good situation,
there's any harm in asking like not asking for a
trade or asking whatever, but asking a lawyer.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Hey, is this.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
Collective bargaining agreement? Is this? Can this hold up in court?

Speaker 1 (53:46):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (53:49):
I you know whatever.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
I can't think of another example, but hey, would the
UFL really be an option? Probably not, But it's at
least worth making a phone call. Like I just again,
that's the other part too, is there's nothing wrong with
making a phone call. There's nothing wrong with calling consulting
with a lawyer. And at the end of the day,
like you said, he got drafted by the Bears, he
showed up on day one, he played every single game,

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and now you know, we'll see what happens from here.
But but yeah, no, I again, I think it's an
interesting story.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
I just, I just I don't know. I'm with you.
I felt a lot of it.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
I mean, listen, I mean, like what you're talking about
checking out a lawyer. What's the worst you found out? Oh,
I do have to go where they drive? Okay, I
guess I'll have to go there then, Like, I mean
that that's really all it is. Like you're inquiring. You're
trying to see whether or not there's anything you can
do to make it what you think is going to
be a better situation. It's like the worst that can
happen is you find out you can't do it, and

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then you go ahead and you do the thing you
were going to do. Anyway. It's like, yeah, you ask
the beautiful girl out and if she tells you no,
then you just move on with your life. Like it's
the same kind of deal. It's like, are you just
gonna go when you don't want to and not try
to out? I imagine there's probably been a lot of
people that have done this that we never heard this about.
In addition to the sum that we have, there's no

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question in my mind that there have been guys that
have been drafted places or even beforehand it said, is
there a way for me not to have to go here? Like,
I mean, Cooper Flagg didn't want to go to Atlanta?

Speaker 4 (55:17):
Did he?

Speaker 5 (55:18):
Not?

Speaker 1 (55:18):
That he had to because he's going to Dallas because
everything's on the up and nip. But anyway, I'm gonna
keep teasing it before we even get to it. But yeah,
like I just I was fine with this. I think
it made for a good story this week. Just it
made for some good banter back and forth for a
lot of radio shows and a lot of television shows

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around the country. But in my heart of hearts, I'm
just like, yeah, like if I were Carl Williams, I'd
want to I'd want this situation to be the best
that it could possibly be to help my son out
as well. And Chicago, I don't think anybody was gonna
call that the best situation for a quarterback to walk
into at that point.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
Totally agree.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
Again, the the quotes came out of a new book
from Seth Wickersham and see what Happens, We'll see what
else comes out of this book. But again, the book
is a America Kings, a biography of the quarterback, and
the excerpt that they decided to release involve Caleb Williams
clearly not wanting to be a Chicago bear. Fox Sports
Radio Aeron Torris Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Fox

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Sports Radio Studios. We will come back and we will
talk about not the number one overall pick, but of
course mister irrelevant brock Perty got paid.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
What does it mean? But also what does it not mean?
We'll discuss that next Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2 (56:48):
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the big news from late Friday, Rock Party got paid.
We'll discuss that next. Before we do, though, let's get
over the news desk Desagar.

Speaker 3 (57:30):
What is trend new?

Speaker 4 (57:31):
Oh, we got a wild ballgame going on at Dodger Stadium.
It's two outs, bases loaded for LA against the quote
LA Angels in the bottom of the eighth inning. The
visitors from Anaheim are holding on to a lead against
the Dodgers ten to nine. In the bottom of the
eighth again bases full for the home team and in
this one, Freddie Freeman with four more hits four for

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five is batting averages up to three seventy five for
the Halos. Catcher Logan Ohoppy with a home run and
five a Colorado came back for a fourteen to twelve
win at Arizona, San Francisco on a tenth inning bases
loaded walk won one nothing over the A's Seattle and
Boston with wins. Minnesota won its thirteenth game in a row.

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Mets and Washington were winners, and then Aastionals game was
at Baltimore today ten to sixth. The final the Orioles
before the game had fired manager Brandon Hyde, but the
team has now lost five in a row, with a
record of fifteen and twenty nine. In the NHL Playoffs,
the second round series ended tonight at Dallas. The Stars
eliminated Winnipeg in overtime, two to one. The game winning

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goal came on the power play. So coach Pete de
Boor has now made it into the conference final for
the eighth time in his career, third most for any
coach in the NHL's expansion era, which goes back to
the late nineteen sixties. This is, also, according to AP,
the sixth time in the last seven seasons that coach
de bor has made it to Hockey's Final four. Of course,

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he's lost his last five trips there, including two Edmonton
in six games a year ago Dallas against Edmonton this
year in the West Final starting Wednesday. As for the
Eastern Conference, we've got a game seven Sunday night, Florida
at Toronto. The winner goes to the East Final against
Carolina starting Tuesday. Journalism the favorite won the Preakness, coming

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from behind late he'd finished second in the derby in
the rain. This was the one hundred and fifthtieth pre
mistakes and better weather than the Derby saw a couple
of weeks back. Kentucky Derby winner Sovereignty did not run today,
fifth time in seven years with no Triple Crown at
stake in the Preakness, as we go to load management
and horse racing as well as did Scottie Scheffler leads

(59:40):
the PGA Championship by three strokes after a third round
sixty five. Alex Norin in second place in Charlotte. In
Major League Soccer, Toronto won six to one over Montreal Chicago,
a four to one winner at Charlotte. And speaking of Charlotte,
we had and we note this for triple a Charlotte
winning five to three Gwinnett. But notable for the Braves

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Ronald Acuno Junior a home run and four walks in
the minors tonight in the home loss.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
Back to you, thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
Steve Sager to Sega will be back in about ten
minutes from now with his extended update that he does
every Saturday into Sunday around this time. Fox Sports Radio
air towards Jason Martin. We are taking you till two.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
Eight m Eastern.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
J mart Let's get to the big piece of news
from Friday. I'll be real, and I was texting you
and producer breathe this. I don't know where I was
at whatever time, you know, three o'clock eastern when this
story broke four o'clock eastern. I was just bopping around
the house at like eleven at night last night, or
maybe it wasn't quite so late. Maybe it was like
eleven eastern, twelve eastern, eight nine Pacific. I think it

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was during the next game and somebody I saw something
about brock Party and it was like, apparently he had
just signed this massive extension and I just missed it.
But it is official, five year, two hundred and sixty
five million dollar deal, about one hundred eighty one in
total guarantees, including one hundred million fully guaranteed at signing.

(01:01:10):
I got some takes, but I'll toss it over to
you first. What are your thoughts on this brock Party deal.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
That's a lot of money. That was really my first take.
It was just like manum, mister irrelevant, no more. That
is for sure. It's a decent amount of guaranteed money.
You knew they were going to pay him. I did
look at him it was just like, gosh, just a
lot of money for Brock Party, because I don't look

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at San Francisco and think that's a team that, to
me is a team that kind of reminds me a
little of the Bucks. Well we were talking about an hour.

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
One, Milwaukee's just like Tampa Bay.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Just generally it just feels like that's
peaked and there have been some other teams in the
NFC that now you feel a lot stronger about. The
difference is I feel better about Kyl Shanahan than I
do Doc Rivers at this point in time. But so
you're paying brock Party, but I don't know that that
roster's gonna win a championship. I guess the question is like,

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what else were you gonna do at the quarterback or
at the quarterback position for San Francisco? And I don't
know that you had the right answer to that question yet,
So I guess in that capacity, this is just kind
of what's gonna happen for quarterbacks at this point. But
the bigger story is just like what an unbelievable thing
this is for brock Party, Like just his story is

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it's just miraculous.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
Yeah, So you know, all I would really say is
I think that context here matters. Is that, like you said,
they weren't going to just let Brock party walk. And
so when you work under that assumption and you actually
look at the deal, it's just hard for me to
get Listen. I feel like I'm lukewarm Taurus tonight. I

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wasn't fired up about the Caleb Williams thing. Fired up
about this because at the end of the day, one
hundred and eighty one in total guarantees feels like a lot.
But here's the truth. The fifty three million dollar a
year average, which is a lot, is tied for seventh
at the position behind you know, not only stars like
Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, but behind Dak Prescott, behind Jordan Love,

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behind Trevor Lawrence, behind Tua the The one hundred and
eighty one in guarantees is the eighth most of all
NFL quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
And so you know, I just listen.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
You know, I have been a proponent for years that
NFL teams shouldn't feel like I've always hated this notion that, well,
the next guy up just has to get more than
the last guy gott and it's like why, Yeah, if
the guy's Josh Allen, he gets more than the last
guy up. Okay, if it's Trevor Lawrence, I'm not so sure.

(01:03:58):
And so what it actually reminds me of a lot
was the Tua contract from this time last year. And
I remember, for for whatever reason, I was filling in
with Rob Parker right around the time that it was done,
and my first inclination was with Tua. It was like, well, man,
he gets hurt a lot, and you know, do you
want to guarantee it?

Speaker 3 (01:04:16):
And I just remember Rob saying, like, what was the alternative?
It's the Dolphins.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
They haven't had a relevant quarterback in twenty five years
since Dan Marino retired. And I kind of just feel
that way with Brock Purdy is that, yes, he is
a quarterback that needs a lot of help by the
way most quarterbacks do. But when you factor in that
it's the eighth most and guaranteed money, he's behind several
other guys. And oh, by the way, a bunch of

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other guys are gonna come up, and by the end
of the by the time this contract expires in five years,
you know, he's probably gonna be, you know, eighteenth rather
than eighth, it's just hard for me to say that
it's some disastrous deal, even though I agree with you
largely that you know, he's just a guy that needs
so much help, and the contract does to a degree

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hinder the help that they'll be able to get them.

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
Yeah, and I think that's right. I mean, I think
that this is not egregious money for the position and
just kind of for the rate. Like I'm with you,
and I've been this way for a long time. Like,
I don't believe that it should always be next guy up.
I think that there are some guys where the market
should just kind of reset and change because things aren't

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exactly as they seem or they aren't what they should
be at the same time, Like, is this like insane money? No,
if you're a forty nine ers fan, I don't know
exactly how you feel about this, But you're kind of
caught because even though you don't have Patrick Mahomes, you
don't have Josh Allen, you don't have Lamar, you don't
have like one of those guys, you do have a

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guy that a lot of people do like. And I
don't know what you're gonna get if you don't pay
him like, this is the situation that a lot of
guys have, like or a lot of teams have, where
you maybe don't have have that transcendent superstar, but you
also don't have a scrub and so you're caught because
there's not anything you can really do unless you want

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to bought him out, and very few teams are willing
to do that. And I definitely don't think that San
Francisco is at this point so good for brock Party.
And certainly he's done everything you would want him to
do from a professional standpoint. I don't think he is
a game changing quarterback, but I think you could do
a lot worse. And I've seen guys get paid commensurate

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or even more than this relative to the rest of
the market that absolutely had not done as much as
brock Party has to this point.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
Yeah, and let me just kind of follow up with that, is,
you know, at least for the next year or two,
this corps is largely going to be intact.

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
We know about all of the injuries last year.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
Christian McCaffrey, Trent Williams, Brandon Ayuk. I will say this, Jamart,
We'll do some schedule release stuff in our three You
look at that forty nine ers schedule. I don't know
if you had a chance to look at it, but basically,
unless I'm missing something, the only teams that are on
the schedule that made the playoffs last year obviously two

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games with the Rams. Then you have a game at Tampa,
and you have a game at the Houston Texans. And
unless I'm forgetting somebody in the playoffs, this is who
you got. Seattle, no New Orleans, no sorry, producer Brie.
Two games against Arizona Jaguars. Ah, that's a big fat
no Falcons, no Giants, no Panthers, no Browns, no Titans,

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no Colts, no Bears. No, that's the schedule. Man, It's
pretty bad. I've seen some stats. I don't know if
I think I saw a stat where it's like, statistically
one of the worst schedules ever based on like the
win loss percentage from the previous year. So I don't
know what that really means for like the five Iverer

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window of Brock Party.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
This is a very manageable schedule though.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
So yeah, and again, like I said, I was just
when I first saw it. I kind of mys did
crop up when I saw the two hundred and big
time million and one eighty plus guarantee and all this.
But then it's just kind of like the other thing.
And I don't know that we mentioned this yet, is
the cap money's just gonna keep going up. The salary

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CAP's gonna continue to raise, new TV deals and everything
else that's going on. So go ahead and pay him now,
you're gonna have to at some point. Anyway, you're gonna
see guys that arnest talented as Brock Party make more
money than Brock Party in the next couple of years.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
Yes, uh, yeah, so we will see what happens here
Brock Party signs a big contract. But again, all things considered,
I do think all things considered, it could be much worse.
Fox Sports Radio Air Tours Jason Martin broadcasting live from
the Fox Sports Radio Studio. We'll come back, Seger, give
you a couple extra minutes for that extended update, as

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we do every week.

Speaker 3 (01:09:06):
Around twelve forty.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
Five, we got to figure out where the tan came from.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
Well the yeah, I don't know. I mean, it looks
stand to me. I don't want to give away too.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
Many beach tales with Steve Disager when we come back.

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
Yeah, well he was certainly on the water. I don't
know how much. I don't know how much beach there is. Well,
we'll get to the Sager's vacation next, and he will
also get us caught up on everything else that we
missed throughout the week and the day in sports on
a busy Saturday, Disager Next.

Speaker 3 (01:09:32):
Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
Fox Sports Radio Air Torres Jason Martin broadcasting live from
the Fox Sports Radio studios, as.

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
We do every week around this time.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Let's get it over the news desk Steve de Sager,
what is trending?

Speaker 4 (01:09:48):
Hello, gentlemen, And again no particular tan here, but it
was an enjoyable week. And since you asked, I was
actually in the snow one day this past week. Notable
for a guy from Los Angeles, but I was outside
Lake Tah Tuesday while at the site of appropriately the
Winter Olympics of nineteen sixty. The snow was falling in
Squaw Valley, California, known as Olympic Valley now. But it

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was incredible to be there because it is a tiny
site to hold at Olympics. But of course there were
far fewer sports in the games back then. You could
except for cross country skiing literally walk from one venue
to the other. The hills that they used for skiing
competition then are the hills that are used for tourists

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skiing there now. They got the rights to the Games
four years in advance and then spent eighty million dollars
because they had to not just for venues but for
the whole infrastructure to host. The World granted a smaller
Olympics at that time, but there was nothing at that
place before, and there's only one building still around from

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nineteen sixty, a certain a frame that I saw, But
it's still the only Winter Games without a bombs leg
competition at all, because in nineteen sixty they just didn't
want to build it for one week's use and it
was never going to be used again, and they thought, well,
this is not a cost effective Walt Disney himself was
the head of the opening and closing ceremonies then. And
in hockey, the US beat the Soviets in nineteen sixty

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on the way to an unlikely gold on home soil,
just like nineteen eighty at Lake Placid, New York, which
is another small area that somehow got to hold.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
How Come that one doesn't get the buzz. Where was
al Michael's in nineteen sixty?

Speaker 3 (01:11:27):
Come on High School?

Speaker 4 (01:11:28):
There was a documentary made about the nineteen sixty US
team and it was called the Forgotten Gold. Oh yeah,
that it certainly is. Well, we've got other things to
discuss on this Saturday evening. Somehow, the Minnesota Twins have
won thirteen games in a row. They won seven to
nothing at Milwaukee tonight, eighteen hits for of the Brewers
had just three three to thirty at the plate. So

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the Minnesota Twins have now pitched thirty three straight scoreless innings. Now,
this is a great stat of course from Statsync the Twins,
and this is in the divisional eras, so it goes
back about fifty five years of baseball history. The Twins
are one of those teams to have a winning streak
of at least thirteen straight games in a single regular season.

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The thing is, almost every team that's had that long
a winning streak has failed to win the World Series
that year. The only exception the Twins of nineteen ninety
one that beat the Braves in a Game seven. So
what will happen to this year's Twins? Will stay tuned.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
On that one.

Speaker 4 (01:12:26):
But these twins, and they used to be in franchise
history many decades ago. They used to be the Washington Senators.
They're nearing a franchise record. Those Senators nineteen twelve had
a seventeen game winning streak. This is thirteen in a row.
The late game is still going at Dodger Stadium. It's
two outs, its bottom of the ninth inning, and it's

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eleven to nine Angels over the Dodgers. The former Dodger
closer Kenley Jansen came on with bases loaded in the
eighth to get the final out and keep the lead.
Clayton Kershaw was the starting pitch for the Dodgers in
his season debut in the Majors. A long first inning,
he threw almost forty pitches. Eventually four innings, five runs allowed.

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Kershaw he is closer to three thousand career strikeouts. By
the way, Angels have just recorded the final out eleven
nine halos the finals saved to Jansen at Dodger Stadium.
But an amazing stat that Clayton Kershaw has now struck
out more batters than any pitcher in history at any
one ballpark. Mickey Lolich at Tiger Stadium for example, apparently

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at over fifteen hundred career strikeouts. Steve Carlton of the
Phillies at the VET over sixteen hundred career strikeouts, Clayton
Kershaw at Dodger Stadium over sixteen hundred career strikeouts. Well, earlier,
we had a Mets Yankees game and with a run
top of the ninth, the Mets won three to two.
Edwin Diaz the save. Aaron Judge went zero for five

(01:13:52):
with three strikeouts cad to end the game. He's now
batting well. It's only four h two on the season.
But who is lee the majors in RBIs It's not
Aaron Judge, It's Wilmer Flores, Ladies and gentlemen, the man
who had a bases loaded walk in San Francisco to
win one nothing over the A's in ten innings tonight.

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Wilmer Flores, all in back the last decade, has fourteen
career walk off plate appearances. That is the most in
the majors in that span, and that includes tonight against
the A's closer Mason Miller. Forty two runs batted in
for Wilmer Flores to lead the majors by the way.
As this Dodger game is now final. The Dodgers did

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lose a reliever to an apparent hamstring injury, Kirby Yates.
The Dodgers already have fifteen pitchers on the injured list.
The closer for Seattle still has an ERA of zero
this year, Andres Munoz got his fourteenth save tonight. Seattle
won at San Diego four to one, cal Rally with
his fifteenth home run of the season. The Colorado Rockies
road record this year was two and twenty one. They

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got to win in a comeback tonight. They were trailing
at Arizona eleven to six after five innings and still
beat the Dbacks fourteen to twelve. Isikiel Tovar five for
six come back win on Fox TV tonight at Boston
for the Red Sox, who had lost four in a row,
but beat Atlanta seven to six on a solo homer
bottom of the ninth from Rafael Devers. The Red Sox
had trailed six to two in the seventh inning, and

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today Baltimore fired its manager, Brandon Hyde, but the team
has now lost five in a row with a record
of fifteen and twenty nine. Because they lost at home
today to Washington ten to six the loss to starter
Kyle Gibson. He's oh and three for the Orioles. His
ERA is up to sixteen point seven to eight. Yes,
he is still gainfully employed. He's allowed six home runs

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in the first inning, didn't get out of the first Today.
We had an NHL playoff team eliminated tonight. Winnipeg out
in six lost in overtime to Dallas two to one tonight.
Apparently the only other NHL team to go oh and
six on the road or worse in a single postseason
was the Hurricane three years ago. These Winnipeg Jets and

(01:16:04):
their goalie Connor hellibuok win zho to six on the
road this postseason. Of course, his goals against average was
near six until tonight, a low scoring game, but he
allowed the game winning goal early in the ot and
it came on the power play. It was scored just
a minute thirty three into the overtime. So Halibuck has
now lost his last ten away games in the playoffs.

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It'll be Dallas against Edmonton in the West Final starting
on Wednesday, and we've got a coach who's back in
the conference final. Can he win it this time? Pete
d Bord. There is a game seven Sunday night in
the East, Florida at Toronto. That winner goes to the
East Final starting Tuesday against Carolina, and Alex Ovechkin will
keep playing. Why not, He's still good even though he

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turns forty in September. He will return to play next
season for Washington. It'll be his twenty first season with
the Capitals. It'll be the final year of his current contract.
The NBA has its second Round end on Sunday with
a Game seven Denver at Oklahoma City. The winner hosts
Minnesota to start the Western Conference Finals on Tuesday. Denver's

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Aaron Gordon is questionable for Sunday. He's called a game
time decision with the strained hamstring. The East Finals start
Wednesday with Indiana at New York. The Pacers had won
in the second round four games to one against the
one seed Cleveland, while New York advanced over Boston four
games to two. The NBA Finals will start June fifth.
The WNBA regular season has started this weekend, and the

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feature matchup today had Indiana blowing out Chicago ninety three
fifty eight, Caitlin Clark with a triple double. In fact,
She finished with twenty points, ten rebounds, ten assists and
four block shots. Angel rees In The lost seventeen rebounds
but five turnovers as well. Phoenix won the late game
easily eighty one fifty nine over Seattle, New York over

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Las Vegas ninety two to seventy eight. Asia Wilson and
the lost thirty one points sixteen rebounds, but at W
four Breonna Stewart's team she had twenty five points. Scottie
Scheffler is leading the PGA Championship by three strokes in
Charlotte after a third round sixty five. John Rahm five
shots back. Bryson Deschamba is six behind. There was a
two and a half hour weather delay at the start

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of round three today. Sergio Garcia shot seventy nine. He's
last among those who made the cut. And we had
the second of the three Triple Crown races today and
this was run at the old Pimlico Race Course in
Baltimore for the last time. It's going to be torn
down and rebuilt, which means next year's Preakness is going
to be nearby at a different place, Laurel Park, and

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then back at the new Pimlico they say in twenty
twenty seven, and we also now have the first jockey
from Italy to win a triple crown race, Umberto Ruspoli
on the favorite journalism taking the Preakness today as the
horse came from behind late for the win. Cosger was
second by a half length. Sandman was third. This was
the one hundred and fiftieth Preakness States. As mentioned earlier,

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the Kentucky Derby winner was not present. Sovereignty did not
run today, fifth time in seven years with no triple
Crown at steak in the Preaknets.

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
Aspect you, as someone who has been to the Preakness twice,
Pimlico ten years ago needed to be torn down ten
years before, and uh, neighborhood wasn't that great either, But
that's kind of out of their control. But yeah, I'm
not totally surprised, but I am a little surprised. Uh
but yeah, So anyway, Fox Sports Radio Air Tours, thank

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you to sayre Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Fox
Sports Radio studios. We got a busy, busy, busy hour
three coming up. Get your conspira, get your tip foil
hats ready. We're talking Cooper flag we're talking NBA Draft lottery.
Plus the NFL schedule has been released. We got lots
of takes on that. Plenty left, one hour left, Aaron Tours,

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Should mention it. As always, the great Bernie Fratto will
follow us. Cannot wait to hear what Bernie has to
say about a busy week in sports. One story that's

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certainly caught everybody's attention this week. It was a little
while ago, but there's no reason we can't talk about
it now. It was Monday night's NBA Draft lottery. We
all know what was at stake. Cooper Flag will be
the number one pick in the draft, regardless of who
ended up with the pick, and we know who was
likely to get that number one pick. Of course, we

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had the Washington Wizards. They were really bad. Thought they
could get it, maybe the Charlotte Hornets or maybe the
Utah Jazz. Instead the Dallas Mavericks, a team with a
one point eight percent chance to get the first pick
in the NBA Draft.

Speaker 3 (01:21:17):
They ended up getting it. By the way, lost a.

Speaker 2 (01:21:19):
Little bit in the shuffle, J Bart was the fact
that the Spurs ended up with the second overall pick,
and of course Philadelphia right behind them. I've got an
awful lot of conspiracy theories, J.

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
Martin.

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
As a matter of fact, Mary mackew mighty as we'll
put on the music now, I'll just say this. It
feels awfully convenient that the team who gifted Luka Doncic
a superstar just now entering his prime, fresh off of
an NBA Finals appearance. I keep saying it, and I'll

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keep saying it. You and I were on air when
it happened, When the trade literally happened, you and I
were on air, could not figure out a logical explanation,
and that night, I still have yet to hear a
very logical explanation for that trade happening. He ends up
a laker, the glamour franchise in this league gets a superstar,
and oh, by the way, about two and a half

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three months later, the Mavericks now get the number one pick.
Jam Mart, you take this wherever you want. I'm just
setting it up. However, I feel nesser.

Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
So I've been reliably informed by others in media that
this would be a crime if it weren't on the
up and up. If you were rigging a lottery, that
would be a crime, which is true, and so there
would be no way that this could happen. I've read this,

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I've heard people say this, I've seen this on television.
All I got to say is the fact that we
don't actually see the balls get drawn. We don't see
anything done. We just see card We just see envelopes
opened up. And here it is good luck trying to

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prove that this thing was not fixed. Good thing because
you think about the circumstances surrounding this. Dallas is one
of the most important sports markets in the country, one
of the largest television markets in the country, for sports,
for news, for everything. Everybody in the world knows that
that trade killed that team, killed that city in terms

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of their interest level on the Mavericks, And so all
of a sudden, you can bring somebody there that would
actually make that workout, and you end up getting another
megastar out to La to go ahead and make sure
that the Lakers are set up for the next ten
years if he doesn't eat himself out of the league.
According to JJ Reddick, all of this, all this thing

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plays out, and it's not even just the first pig.
It's the fact that the first three picks went Dallas,
San Antonio, Philadelphia. The chances of all this are not
very good. Is it feasible that this could have happened
without it being fixed? Sure, But the problem for the
NBA is this is not the first time. It's that

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the second time. It's not the third time that this
thing has felt fishy recently, and it just seems like
when there's just these can't miss guys or these dudes
that have all sorts of hype coming in for the
entire year leading in now Zion notwithstanding, but they did
bring David Griffin there first and they were trying to
do some different things there Washington, Atlanta, Charlotte like, yeah,

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we'll give you a Mecca Oka four, but we're not
going to give you Cooper flag. We're not going to
give you Lebron James and Lebron going to his hometown.
As its own story goes back to Patrick Ewing all
these things right now, I'm not saying every one of
these was fixed. I'm not even necessarily telling you this
is fixed. I'm telling you I kind of think something

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fishy happened here because stuff's been fishy in this league
now for about three or four months in my opinion,
and more than anything, Yes, I can't prove that it
was fixed. You can't prove it wasn't because nothing was
done in front of us. Everything was done behind and
we were just told who won, We were told the spots.

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So don't tell me it's a crime when there's no
way to prove the crime. Every bit of this played
out to the NBA's benefit, every bit of it, and
that just I just got to say it smells fishy,
and I'll go on record and say I think it
was rigged. All right.

Speaker 3 (01:25:46):
So a couple things.

Speaker 2 (01:25:47):
One you mentioned Spurs getting second pick, Philly getting the
third pick.

Speaker 3 (01:25:51):
I had this tweeted to me.

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
I don't know if it's one hundred percent accurate, but
I it feels too accurate to be made up. Someone
named doctor Daniel Drew, so he's a doctor, at least
according to Twitter. He said, FYI stats for you, the
chances of the draft lottery resulting in the exact top
three of Dallas, San Antonio and Philadelphia was zero point zero, one,

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three three. In other words, that's one in seven thousand,
five hundred and thirty two odds. So if they drew
this exact lottery, it would take seven thousand, five hundred
and thirty two times to get this one specific order.
So that plays into your theory about it working out

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perfectly for this league, right, and so really quickly I'll
frame it, so just to be quick, Dallas traded Luca
franchises on the brink. But also they kind of have
a team that's sort of interesting. If everybody's healthy, now
you have the number one pick. Number two pick goes
to the team with the generational prospect that we all
expect to be the next great dynasty.

Speaker 3 (01:26:54):
That's coincidental. And then of course number three.

Speaker 2 (01:26:56):
Philadelphia, which of course was very much a contender as
recently as a year ago getting the number three pick.

Speaker 3 (01:27:06):
So this is what I would say. First of all,
what bothers me.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
Is the simpletons that like refuse to acknowledge, like because
I heard like smart people in the media basically insinuating
that anyone that thinks this is rigged is a dummy,
like that that you're wearing.

Speaker 3 (01:27:23):
A tinfoil hat. Whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
All I'm gonna say is, again, first of all, just
the facts that we pointed out. Luca gets traded to
the Marquee franchise in a draft that nobody in a
trade that nobody can explain, and there was no bidding
process for him. The hall wasn't very good. It never
made sense. So this would be a way if somehow,

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some way the league orchestrated it to repay the maps.
But let's let's let's that that's an opinion, that speculation.

Speaker 3 (01:27:51):
Whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
Here's what I'm gonna do. I'm just gonna give you facts.
These are not my opinions, These are just facts. Twenty
five NBH Lottery is won by the MAVs. They get
the number one pick. Just a few months after trading
Luca to the Lakers, and again they had less than
a two percent chance to get that number one pick
twenty nineteen, So I'm gonna skip Wemby. Oh, he just

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goes to the organization that always gets the generational center,
So let's skip Webby. Twenty nineteen. Pelicans get the number
one pick in the Zion Draft, just a few months
after trading Anthony Davis to the Lakers twenty fourteen, all
this speculation that Lebron could be returning to the Cleveland Cavaliers.
They end up with the number one overall pick, which

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of course was Andrew Wiggins would say traded twenty twelve.
This a few months after the weird situation with Chris
Paul Is he gonna be a Laker? Is he gonna
be a Clipper? He ends up with the Clippers. But
independent of that a few weeks there, a few months
after New Orleans trades their top trades their most marketable

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player in a trade that was very beneficial for the league.
The Pelicans or Hornets, they were the Hornets at the time.
They get the number one pick, which became Anthony Davis
and then twenty eleven. Never forget this was the first
full lottery after. This was the first time the Calves
were eligible for the draft lottery after Lebron left. So

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obviously he leaves in the summer of twenty ten, they're
not gonna be in the lottery the year after making
you know whatever, getting the number one seed.

Speaker 3 (01:29:23):
So the next NBA Draft lottery.

Speaker 2 (01:29:26):
That they could conceivably get the number one pick, they
happen to end up with the number one pick. That
doesn't include as you said, Patrick Ewing, it doesn't include Lebron.

Speaker 3 (01:29:34):
This is just in the last fifteen years.

Speaker 2 (01:29:38):
As you said, well, I'm not the one I'm paraphrasing,
but basically you said, it always seems like when there's
a generational prospect, or a top prospect, or a team
really needs a break from the league, it happens this way.
Just in the last fourteen years. I think you come
up with five very easy scenarios where somebody did something

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that sort of benefited the or somebody got screwed in
some sort of way, and the league just kind of
happened to figure out a way for the ping pong
balls to go their way. Again, that's not my opinion, Jamart.
Those are just facts right there.

Speaker 1 (01:30:12):
Yeah, and there's just no why would I give this
league the benefit of the doubt right now? Like every
reason for them to do this right now makes sense
for them to try and do this right now. The
league just had a bad year. The All Star Game
was an absolute joke. You get into the playoffs and
the games have been pretty good, but again, the television

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ratings aren't what you want them to be. You're about
to have brand new television partners, You've got the TNT
situation happening, you got Michael Jordan joining NBC. You're almost
gonna try to like relaunch this thing. It's like two
point zero NBA like try to bring people back to
the dance at this point. And so why in the
world would you not find a way if you could

(01:30:58):
look one of There was an argument that I years ago.
It wasn't even an argument. It was just I argued
this point that when Netflix bought WWE, the reason why
I thought it was such a good value compared to
even UFC or anything else, is that in UFC, it's
not up to you who the star is. It's whoever

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wins the fight. And maybe he's not the most charismatic
guy or the guy that wants to be in front
of the camera as much. Maybe he's Mike Trout and
he's not Aaron Rodgers or something like that. In WWE,
I can look at and determine who I want to
be a star, and then I can book them for
three or four years undefeated, write storylines around them, and

(01:31:41):
barring some catastrophe in terms of like an injury or
personal problem or something like that, I can make sure
that what I want to happen happens. That's going to
be the best, what I believe is going to be
the best for my business. The NBA is in a
unique position right here because of the weirdness of the lottery,
which is its own topic. By it's like, there's really

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no reason why they do it this way because it
still gives other teams a chance to end up with
a better player than just the absolute bottom feeder team. Yes,
they have a better percentage, but this is just right
for conspiracy theories, right. This is why we can play
the whole song, even the deep cut version with like

(01:32:22):
the extra minutes in it, because we're still laying this out.
But I said that I thought it was rigged. I
guess because I worked in pro wrestling too long, and
because I saw everything, I even saw reality show bookers
come into locker rooms at Georgia that was in and
try to recruit guys and things like that for shows
that were not supposed to be scripted, but we all
knew were so like, I look at this and I'm

(01:32:45):
just like, it's too perfect. It all fits like a
tetrispiece beautifully like you if you you couldn't have scripted
this better, if you were the NBA, if you were
trying to set things up for the future. If Jannis
ends up with the Spur and you end up a
Cooper flag with the MAVs, and I don't know what
happens with the Sixers, maybe they can involve somewhere. I

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don't know. But this whole thing sets you up perfectly
if you're the NBA. So there's why why would you
if he's somebody else and your point is the right one,
why would you say that You're just a complete rube
to believe? Like, ah, these idiots, It's like, why not
do you see what's happening in politics in this country?

(01:33:28):
You see what's happened in every If there's money involved,
a lot of people aren't going to leave that up
to chance if they can help it. And the NBA
being in the struggle bus that it's been in so
many ways, Uh yeah, I would probably try to orchestrate
this too behind the scenes if I thought I could
get away with it. And the NBA Draft Lottery is
the easiest possible way to try and set the cards

(01:33:49):
where I want them.

Speaker 2 (01:33:50):
Yeah, And I'll just wrap by saying, again, whatever, whatever
you personally think, is it rigged, is it not rigged
by the way you know? Listen, I know social media
polls aren't the best, but I saw a couple of
them where I don't think that this is something that, oh,
it's only the most tinfoil hat of tinfoil hats, Like

(01:34:11):
I think there are a lot of people that believe
what you and I believe. All I wrap by saying
is that if this thing isn't rigged, there have been
an awful lot of coincidences in terms of the right
team getting the right guy in the right moment. And again,
I'll just go back really quick twenty twenty five, Cooper
flag ends up on the MAVs or Cooper flag ends

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up the MAVs end up with the number one pick
just a few months after trading Luca. Twenty nineteen, the
Pelicans get the number one pick, just a few months
after trading Anthony Davis.

Speaker 3 (01:34:42):
They end up with Zion.

Speaker 2 (01:34:43):
Twenty fourteen, all sorts of rumors about Lebron returning to Cleveland,
they get the number one pick. Twenty twenty twelve, of course,
was the post Chris Paul trade, they get the number
one pick. And then again twenty eleven, the first draft
that the Calves could be or were in the lottery,
they end up with the number one pick. And oh,

(01:35:03):
by the way, that doesn't include Derreck Rose getting picked
by the hometown Chicago Bulls, Lebron James getting picked by
the hometown Cleveland Cavaliers, Patrick Ewing getting picked by the
New York Knicks. One that I had forgotten that somebody
just sent me apparently the Bulls number one pick in
the ninety nine draft or somewhere somewhere in that mix,

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shortly after Michael Jordan retired. So, like I said, not saying,
just kind of sort of saying. Fox Sports Radio aertors
Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios,
come back. Another big story from earlier in this week
NFL Draft or NFL Draft, NFL schedule release. Oh, I
got some takes, maybe a little pseudo conspiracy theory in

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that one as well.

Speaker 3 (01:35:48):
Gotta stay tuned.

Speaker 1 (01:35:49):
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Speaker 2 (01:36:02):
Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio rators. Jason Martin broadcasting
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up till two a m. Eastern time. Bernie Farrado of
The Bernie Fratto Show follows us jaymart really quick. We'll
get to some NFL schedule in a sec. I feel

(01:36:25):
remiss that we should at least mention the WNBA tipping
off earlier on Saturday, Big story Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese,
Sky versus Fever Fever.

Speaker 3 (01:36:39):
Get the win.

Speaker 2 (01:36:40):
But in true Angel Rees versus Caitlin Clark fashion, there
was a little bit of a dust up, a semi
hard foul on Caitton Clark. I don't think that it
was the hardest fale I've ever seen. Was called a
flagrant Angel Reese had to be held back I saw
it live. I happen to have the game on when
it happened, and I'll be real, I feel like it's

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the kind of thing that come Monday, the sports media
will try to blow up and make a bigger thing
than it is because it is Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese.
I didn't think much of it, but you know, we
are supposed to be talking about the biggest stories in sports,
and I have a feeling it's going to make its
rounds come Monday. Do you have any super strong takes

(01:37:24):
out by the way, If you do, the floor is yours.
I just it's hard for me to get super fired
up about this one. I think it is going to
be blown out of proportion. What did you make out
of what we saw Saturday in Indianapolis.

Speaker 1 (01:37:37):
It's definitely going to be blown out of proportion. It's
a hard foul. I didn't think there was anything particularly
dirty about it or anything else. I think the reaction
from Angel Reese was awesome for a pro wrestling heel
like I felt like there was a little bit of
acting there. Yeah, it was a hard foul, but there's
no reason to react that way. Caitlyn Clark was fouled

(01:38:01):
much harder than that many times last year. Yep, that's
not Look we're not playing what about is them here?
Like this was a pretty hard foul. I'm okay with
them upgrading it to a flagrant one. I'm alright with that.
I mean, it was definitely a little bit harder than
a common foul. But at the same time, it just
seemed like it was in the flow of the game.

(01:38:22):
And if you heard Caitlyn Clark's point afterwards, She's like, look,
I wasn't just gonna give her the layup, so yeah,
I went for the basketball. Was gonna put her on
the line, and she did miss one of the free throws,
by the way, but like you know, she's untucking her jersey.
Angel Reese's being held back. It's just like, okay, all right,
Like you had a moment and you took advantage of it.

(01:38:45):
And yes, people are gonna blow this out of proportion
because that's what they do, especially when it regards Caitlin Clark.
I don't think that it rises to the level of
the coverage that it will get. But it's great for
the WNBA, honestly, like this, this is what they're going
to be able to thrive on. If anything, this season's

(01:39:08):
kind of a litmus test to see whether or not
there's anything still left. And I do think there's a
little bit. But you know, the thing about this was
it overshadowed a triple double from Caitlin Clark. Sure, it
overshadowed a great game that she played, and yees, she
had a moment where she was playing pretty hard nosed defense,
just like everybody played defense against her last year. And

(01:39:30):
that's again not to excuse anything. It's just I didn't
think there was anything that bad about this. I've seen
many fouls in many games, men and women that were
like this, this is opening Day. And look, it's because
it's Angel Reese. Like if it's almost anybody else, we're
not even talking about it. But because it's Angel rees
and the way she reacted to it, because she never
misses a moment to do that. We end up talking

(01:39:53):
about it here in the third hour of the program.
But I shrugged my shoulders. I went back and watched
it a few times. Did Caitlin hit her and make
sure that she caught her across the ridge? She wanted
to stop her from making that bucket. There's no question
about that, which, Look, if you know anything about Angel
Reese offensively, she might have missed it even if you
hadn't fouled her like because she's not particularly adept on
the offensive ends. She rebounds the ball really well. We

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know this. But yeah, this is perfect for sports media.
It's perfect for fodder, and it's incredibly low hanging fruit.
And I just thought it was a foul. Let's keep
playing basketball.

Speaker 2 (01:40:27):
Don't disagree. Also, don't disagree with the sentiment that you
said that, yeah, we're gonna people are gonna try to
make it a thing on Monday. I just I just
say there will be moments to get fired up about
a hard foul in the w NBA this year. I
just don't think this is one. Fox Sports Radio air Tours.
Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

(01:40:49):
Do you want to come back? I got a few
takes on the NFL release schedule release.

Speaker 3 (01:40:54):
Excuse me.

Speaker 2 (01:40:55):
We'll get to those in just one moment before we
do though. Final time this evening, Steve Siger and.

Speaker 4 (01:40:59):
The games you mentioned this season opener for Indiana and
the WNBA beating up Chicago ninety three fifty eight not
only a triple double for Caitlin Clark. It was twenty points,
ten rebounds, tenn asists and four block shots victories for
Phoenix and New York as well. The NBA's second Round
ends on Sunday with a Game seven Denver at Oklahoma City.

(01:41:19):
Denver's Aaron Gordon questionable for Sunday with a strained hamstring.
In the NHL Playoffs, Dallas ended its second round series
eliminating Winnipeg in overtime in Game six to Night two
to one. The game winning goal came on the power play.
There's a Game seven in the East Sunday night with
Florida Toronto. Alex Ovechkin will return to play for Washington
next season, final year of his current contract. Journalism The

(01:41:43):
Favorite won the Preakness coming from behind late Scottie Scheffler leads.

Speaker 1 (01:41:47):
To the Journals ever a favorite.

Speaker 4 (01:41:50):
Not these days, finished second in the Derby and the
rain better weather here and won Kentucky Derby winner Sovereignty
did not run. Scotti Scheffler took the PGA Championship lead
by three strokes after his third round sixty five in Charlotte.
There was a two and a half hour weather delay
at the start of round three in the UFL, Michigan

(01:42:10):
at six and two won its game at Houston quarterback
Danny Ettling from Purdue in LSU through three touchdown passes.
Attendance four thousand for that one. Meanwhile, for Saint Louis,
a team that six and two paid, attendance was thirty thousand.
They got a late TD to win twenty nine twenty
eight over Birmingham quarterback Max Duggan from TCU with two
TV runs. The regular season for this Spring Football League

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ends in two weeks on Fox TV. On Fox TV,
Baseball Tonight at Boston and the Red Sox, in a comeback,
ended a four game losing streak, beating Atlanta seven six
on a solo homer in the bottom of the ninth
by Rafael Devers. The Red Sox trailed six to two
in the seventh inning. The Rockies were down at Arizona
eleven to six after five wound up winning fourteen to twelve.

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The Rockies on the road had been two to twenty
one this year. Seattle a four to one winner at
San Diego, Cal Rawleigh his fifteenth homer. The Giants in
ten innings won one nothing over the A's on a
basis loaded walk to Wilmer Flores, who now leads the
Majors with forty two RBIs. The Angels got the save
from ex Dodger Kenley Jansen at Dodger Stadium, eleven nine halos,

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the final eleven men left on base for the Dodgers.
The loss to reliever Kirby Yates, who left with an
apparent hamstring injury. The Dodgers already have fifteen pitchers on
the injury list. Minnesota won its thirteenth straight games, seven
nothing at Milwaukee. The Twins have pitched thirty three straight
scoreless innings. Saint Louis was a one nothing winner at

(01:43:36):
Kansas City. The Royals have dropped five in a row.
There was a home run in the sixth inning for
the only scoring. The Cards only had two hits in
the game, but the Royals offense was just four for
thirty at Texas, ninth home run of the year for Wyatt.
Langford Rangers beat Houston five to one. Cincinnati struck out
fifteen times but still won at home against Cleveland four
to one, Philadelphia five to two over Pittsburgh. The win

(01:43:58):
to Zach Wheeler with six scoreless and six strikeouts. Tampa
Bay won four to nothing at Miami with four runs
in the seventh victories for the Cubs in Toronto for
the Mets as well, got a run in the ninth
to beat the Yankees three too, and Baltimore fired its manager,
Brandon Hyde, and then went out and lost its fifth
straight game, ten six to Washington. The losing pitcher for
the Orioles, Kyle Gibson, is zero and three with an

(01:44:21):
ERA of sixteen point seven to eight. He allowed six
runs in the first inning.

Speaker 3 (01:44:26):
Back to you, thank you very much, Steve Sager, have
a great, great and great evening.

Speaker 2 (01:44:30):
Hey are you back tomorrow night? I am back, Arnie Spent.
I mean, listen, everybody's taking vacation. Desager was kicking his
feet up in the sand on the beach and.

Speaker 4 (01:44:40):
Actually there's not much sand on the beach with Lake
tom mostly grass, but very enjoyable.

Speaker 3 (01:44:44):
I'm glad you got away. I'm jealous. I'll be getting
away here these next game.

Speaker 4 (01:44:48):
It's beautiful, but there is no point around Lake Tahoe
where there's not an incredible view.

Speaker 2 (01:44:53):
It was sensational, and you said the first time that
you've ever been there, right, amazing for someone who's a
lifelong resident of this state.

Speaker 4 (01:45:00):
Driver fly we drove, which was a big advantage. Six
hour drive or so, yeah, about six and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:45:05):
It was.

Speaker 4 (01:45:06):
It was an advantage to have a car. I'll say that, yes,
but you can also take tours and such. Recommend j
mart if you ever get a chance. I don't know
if you've ever been to Lake Tahoe, but it is beautiful.
I was there for a summer wedding, so I was
here there around the same time you were.

Speaker 3 (01:45:19):
It is it is every day.

Speaker 4 (01:45:20):
I passed the golf course where the celebrity golf is
every summer at Edgewood, which is right on the edge
of the border of Nevada and California, right by the lake.

Speaker 2 (01:45:29):
Sensational awesome, well the sagarette Grade even. Yes, I am
in with Chris Plank tomorrow, Arnie.

Speaker 3 (01:45:34):
God only knows where that man is.

Speaker 4 (01:45:36):
He gave himself the night off.

Speaker 3 (01:45:37):
Oh yeah, I gave himself the night off, so good
for him. Yeah, he is off.

Speaker 2 (01:45:41):
So I will be in with Plank tomorrow with the
Sagas on Fox Sports Radio Er Tours. Jason Martin taking
it till two am.

Speaker 1 (01:45:48):
J Martin.

Speaker 2 (01:45:49):
NFL schedule release this week you know, listen, I get
into it, but I also listen, I also understand anybody
that doesn't want to overreact to this. You know, we
get so excited in the here and now. First of all,
everybody knows that the actual games, we already know who

(01:46:09):
everybody is playing. It's just a matter of where they
fall in the schedule. The other thing is you just
never know what's gonna happen. You know, you don't root
for injuries, but stuff happens. Teams under tea underachieved, teams overachieve.
But I do want to share some thoughts and overall reactions.
So I'll tell you what Mary. Give us a little
bit of music, put us in the mood.

Speaker 1 (01:46:27):
J Mart.

Speaker 2 (01:46:28):
If you have a first thought on the schedule, you're
more than welcome to share it. I have a couple,
but I'll give you the floor first.

Speaker 1 (01:46:36):
If you want me to go Okay, yeah, you go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:46:40):
So I found this interesting, J Mart, and I want
your perspective on it, because I think there are two
ways to look at this.

Speaker 3 (01:46:49):
The Kansas City.

Speaker 2 (01:46:50):
Chiefs, you may have heard of them, so this is interesting.
Before the before thereby, their bye is in the second
week of October.

Speaker 3 (01:47:00):
They play the Chargers, the Eagles, the Ravens, the Lions,
the Commanders, and the Bills. It's a lot of tough
games Chargers, Eagles, Ravens, Lions, Commanders, and Bills. But I
also bring that up to say, of those one, two, three, four, five,

(01:47:24):
six marquee games, a grand total of one of them
is a true road game.

Speaker 2 (01:47:32):
That is the Bills on November two. They play the
Chargers in Brazil to open the season on that Friday.
Then Eagles at home, Ravens at home, Lions at home,
Commanders at home, Bills on the road. So on the
one hand, if you believe that the Super Bowl was
a microcosm of a team that has all sorts of flaws,

(01:47:55):
you could talk yourself into three four losses pretty early
in the season. The counter is, if you believe that
everything is rigged in favor of the Chiefs, if you're
gonna play those games, getting virtually all of them at
Arrowhead is certainly a storyline.

Speaker 3 (01:48:09):
I don't know if you make anything of that, but
I find that interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:48:13):
Not necessarily, but that's definitely interesting. I Mean, again, there's
a lot of people that think that the fix is
in for the Chiefs, as often as possible. It's kind
of become a common refrain. So this will give them fodder.
But you know, every once in a while you'll see this.
We talked about the forty nine Ers schedule. That thing's
a joke comparatively, Then you look at like the Giants

(01:48:35):
and its murders row out here. And even if you
look at Dallas, Dallas has a stretch.

Speaker 3 (01:48:41):
Oh, it's crazy, kind of.

Speaker 1 (01:48:44):
Around Thanksgiving time, not gonna be fun at all. When
you go Philly, Kansas City at Detroit, Minnesota, Los Angeles
Chargers at Commanders, that's right, that's Christmas Day at Commanders.
So like, once you get past Tom Brady's writers, you
get basically six games in a row where it's very

(01:49:06):
feasible that you could lose all of them.

Speaker 2 (01:49:08):
I believe this stat I saw was the first team
ever to draw four straight teams that won fourteen games
or more the season before.

Speaker 3 (01:49:21):
That's kind of wild.

Speaker 2 (01:49:22):
And then if you factor in yeah, and then you
factor the Chargers and Commanders, I think the Chargers won
maybe eleven.

Speaker 3 (01:49:29):
I have to look it up.

Speaker 2 (01:49:30):
The Commanders won twelve in the regular season. The Chargers
last year won eleven. So you have a five games
a six game stretch. Excuse me, right in the middle
of the season, where, to your point, you face six
straight teams that won eleven games last year, four straight

(01:49:51):
that won fourteen straight.

Speaker 3 (01:49:52):
So that's tough.

Speaker 2 (01:49:52):
I'll say this, Jmart. This is another thing that I
take away from this, and I don't think that it's
ever gonna change. But because I get that they are
the Cowboys second most primetime games outside of the Kansas City.

Speaker 3 (01:50:07):
Chiefs, I just you know, on the one hand, they're
America's team.

Speaker 2 (01:50:13):
They're a huge straw, and I will say they're like
the one team outside of maybe Kansas City that you
love to make fun of when they're struggling or when
they lose or whatever. I feel like last year though,
and it wasn't just because Dak got hurt in but
they were awful, and I think people just checked out
on them. Like I just I get you have these

(01:50:34):
huge brands, but sometimes the huge brand is so bad
that it's just not a story. And I think we're
there with the Cowboys. So again, I'm not saying you
bury them in the one Eastern game every single week,
especially when they're playing the Eagles, when they're playing the
Chiefs when they're playing even the Commanders, who of course
are intriguing. But you know, Sunday Night against the Vikings, Okay,

(01:50:59):
I guess I don't know. I just I think we're
gonna look up in like Week eight and they're gonna
be irrelevant and we're gonna have a million standalone games again,
and we're just gonna say, why do we keep doing this?

Speaker 3 (01:51:10):
I don't know. Maybe I'm under selling the Cowboys. I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:51:14):
It's all about the ratings. It's all about the numbers,
and so we'll have to crunch them and see whether
or not the interest is there if the team is
as mediocres we think they're gonna be. So we've talked
a good bit about that division. Now we talked about Dallas,
the schedule and the fact that I just don't think
there would be all that good. And if you look
at the Giants, I mentioned earlier that they had a

(01:51:35):
really rough schedule. I mean they go Cowboys, Chiefs, Chargers,
then they get the Saints, but then they go Philly
at Denver, at Philly, San Francisco at Chicago, Green Bay
at Detroit, and then you go to New England, which
I think with Vrabel is gonna be a different story,

(01:51:55):
and then you play Washington and then you play Minnesota.
Like good if it just keeps going like from October
the ninth through December the twenty first, like all of
those are losable games for the New York Giants. And
my question is how soon is Jackson dart in it's

(01:52:17):
starting quarterback, because I don't think it's gonna take very
long at all.

Speaker 2 (01:52:20):
By the way, you said from October ninth on before
October ninth at Washington Chiefs Chargers, Like, it's not like
it's easy before October ninth.

Speaker 1 (01:52:29):
So yeah, I just kind of I cut it off
because the Saints were before the Eagles, and so I
wanted to like say, all right, really, there's nothing after
that Saints game that I would want to play if
I was a Giants fan based on how they played
last year. But yes, the whole schedule is just crazy hard.

Speaker 3 (01:52:45):
Just one quick thing because we got to get to
it and wrap the show.

Speaker 2 (01:52:49):
Dolphins five primetime games, six standalone games? Did Dan Marino unretire?
Did I miss something? Is Don Shula walking through that door?
Five standalone games for the Dolphins?

Speaker 1 (01:53:08):
I don't want why man Arnie's gonna be really excited.

Speaker 3 (01:53:11):
Yeah, until they go one in four in those games.

Speaker 1 (01:53:15):
I don't know, man, And it's what it's Cincinnati at Pittsburgh.
They have the game, and I guess was that London
probably somewhere overseas they're playing against Washington. And then they've
got the Bills. Let's see this guy. They got the Jets.
That's another standalone. Yeah, they got a lot and Baltimore
they got five stand alone? Is it six? Is that

(01:53:35):
what you said? That's insane.

Speaker 2 (01:53:37):
Yeah, I believe the stet that I saw six standalone games,
five in primetime.

Speaker 3 (01:53:41):
By the way, I didn't look this up beforehand.

Speaker 2 (01:53:44):
I feel like the Jets have a disproportional number of
standalone slash primetime games. I'm sorry the Jets. The Jets
should be in the Tennessee Titans, New Orleans Saints. Never
in a standalone I don't care if it's New York.
They're gonna be so bad.

Speaker 1 (01:54:00):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:54:00):
Fox Sports Radio Errators, Jason Martin, we'll come back, wrap
the show, look ahead to Game seven Sunday. That's next
Fox Sports thirty. Welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports Radio aeratoris
Jason Martin. Broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.
We're taking you up till two am Eastern, eleven minutes
from now. Bernie Fratto of The Bernie Fratto Show follows us.

(01:54:24):
Cannot wait to hear what Bernie has to say about
a wild, wild week in sports. J Mark guess we
should hit on the big topic of Sunday. We all
know what that's gonna be. We got ourselves a game
seven NBA Playoffs Denver at Oklahoma City.

Speaker 3 (01:54:49):
Aaron Gordon.

Speaker 2 (01:54:50):
We will see what his status is for people who
are just joining us, we talked about it to lead
the show. By the way, should mention I should mention this.
Shortly after our show, the podcast will be going up.
If you missed any of the show, make sure to
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(01:55:11):
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and you'll see tonight's show right after we get off air.
All right, So, as I was saying, okay, see hosting Denver.
The big story Aaron Gordon strain Hamstring listed as questionable
for that game. Points spread that I'm currently seeing is
eight points. Thunder are favored. What do you think of

(01:55:32):
this game?

Speaker 3 (01:55:33):
Jmart?

Speaker 2 (01:55:33):
Obviously, the game is in Oklahoma City three point thirty
Eastern time on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (01:55:40):
I'm a thunderfan. I'm scared just because it's game seven
to eightything can happen. That's a team that's won a championship,
and they've got an MVP level player obviously in Jokich,
and they have Murray who can just be He can
be lethal in clutch situations in the postseason. I'm gonna
pick my guys. I picked him before the season or
before the seas. I stick with that. I knew it

(01:56:01):
wasn't gonna be an easy series. Still could very much
be wrong on this. You can go with experience, and
I think you're in good company if you do. I
think that it makes a lot of sense if you
wanted to go that route. I just feel like I
think Oklahoma City, in their building, I think their role
players show up for him more than the opposite. And

(01:56:24):
I think the Gordon absence, assuming he's not able to play,
or even if he's completely hampered and he's just not himself,
they need him and not having him for this game
I think is a big time advantage for Oklahoma City
for sure. So I do like the thunder. I would
probably not take that number, though I think that may

(01:56:45):
be tighter than that.

Speaker 2 (01:56:47):
Yeah, I'll take Oklahoma City as well. I think the
thing that stands out to me two things. One, it's
the obvious Aaron Gordon, you know, your defensive stopper guy
who's played very well offensively as well. Even if he
is in that game, it's hard to imagine him being
at one hundred percent having to chase down all those
guys for Oklahoma City. The other thing I was thinking
about as we were getting ready for the show jmart

(01:57:09):
is first of all, Denver of course coming off a
seven game series last round. But in this series, you
look at the three Denver wins. Game one, they trailed
by what I think it was something I looked it up.
I think it was something like eight points, was seven
minutes to go or something.

Speaker 3 (01:57:23):
They rally to.

Speaker 2 (01:57:24):
Win Game one, and then they win game what was
a game four, Game three and overtime, and that's in
this series. So really, either you know, of the two
of the three wins for Denver could have gone either way,
so Airic Gordon at less than one hundred percent, plus
two close wins a couple of blowout losses, I will

(01:57:45):
take okay See to win this series. By the way,
you think either one of these matches up better or
worse with Minnesota As Minnesota awaits Game one of the
Western Conference Finals will be Tuesday night. Either either team
you think has an advantage or disadvantage against Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (01:58:00):
Ah, yeah, that's I mean, that's a good question. I
don't know that I have a strong takeaway on that.
I think Oklahoma City and they play pretty tenacious defense
as well. I think that just based on what I
saw in the last series from Minnesota, I feel like

(01:58:23):
if Oklahoma City can force the issue offensively, that is
going to cause Minnesota some issues. Go Beart is going
to have to be pretty critical on the inside, but
they can make a ton of buckets and SGA. I'm
not sure exactly who covers them. NASA RED is going
to be really necessary for Minnesota. I think Oklahoma City
matches up well with them, but I kind of think
Denver probably would most would do pretty well too. I

(01:58:46):
think that Oklahoma City is probably a worst matchup for Minnesota,
just because it's going to force them to be more
athletic and go up and down faster.

Speaker 2 (01:58:52):
Game one Tuesday night, By the way, Game three will
be next Saturday at a thirty Eastern, so we'll be
coming off live after that. We got about twenty seconds
Knicks Pacers. You have any favorite in that one?

Speaker 1 (01:59:05):
Man, here's my take. I didn't give you my bold
take on that series. Somebody's getting suspended during the two.
I think there's gonna be an absolute brawl in one
of these games. I think this is going to be
one of those series we're gonna be talking about. Mark
my words, it's going to be physical and it's going
to cross the line.

Speaker 3 (01:59:23):
Tell you what, Jamart, we got to get out of here.

Speaker 2 (01:59:25):
I want to thank the crew, Mary mack on the board,
producer Brie, Steve Desager, for my partner Jason Martin. I'm Arataurus.
Make sure to download the podcast. Bernie Friddo next Fox Sports.

Speaker 3 (01:59:34):
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