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July 9, 2023 119 mins

This morning Andy & Alex Furman team up as the father/son duo while Geoff Schwartz is off for the day. The guys talk about Wembanyama not having the greatest debut in the Summer League & Coach Pop signing a 5 year extension. They discuss the Nathan's Hot Dog eating contest & if Joey Chestnut is really an athlete. Andy gives his two cents on the NBA trade rumors/signings & Alex challenges his Dad on NFL takes. Plus, we get another segment of 'Eat my Alex', Bottom Barrel Betting & the Blame Game.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
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(00:27):
should be here. He is my son, Yes, he is
Alex Furman. I'm Andy Furman. How in the hell did
you get here? Who do you know?

Speaker 3 (00:34):
That?

Speaker 2 (00:34):
As some people of importance?

Speaker 4 (00:36):
Well, it's great to be back here in the studio
with you. This is our what our third time around?
I get such by the way, Jeff Schwartz is not here,
Jeff Schwartzeff Swartz today taking the day off. Third time
around town here Dad, and I suppose something is going right.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
I think maybe the listeners like it, you know, so
I don't know. Well, you know, I wrote a pity
letter and I think they liked it.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
I'm grass. I don't know about that. I said, I
got two questions, two questions a fore you. I'm not
gonna make it easy for you today. All right, this
is gonna be tell you're in the hot seat today.
And then there's a couple of things I want to
know to him bugging me since the fourth of July,
since I watched that stupid hot dog getting and I
did watch it. The hot dog getting contest is the
most grotest disgusting thing in the world of entertainment. Maybe

(01:19):
I'm not going to use the term sport because I'm
going to ask you right now in your mind, what
is the definition of sport? What is it? Because they
claim that this Joey Chester hot dog getting contest deal
is sports. Joey George Chestnut, he wins the sixteenth Mustard
Belt on the fourth of July for the Nathan's Hot
Dog Getting Contest. He puts down sixty two francs and

(01:41):
buns in ten minutes. Grotesque disgusting. So is it sport
or not? What is sports?

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Well, Dad, I'll give you the definition here.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
A sport is an activity involving physical exertion and skill
in which an individual or a team competes against one
another for entertainment.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Okay, so hot dogging contest is that technically a sport.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
He does compete with other people, right, it's exertion, biglus obviously.
I'm sure he's taking some pepto bismo after this deal.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
I can't imagine, right, Okay, his stomach is exerting.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
I know that, okay, and if just a train for it? Okay.
So that leads me to the second question. Would you
consider Jorge Chestnut an athlete? That's the key, you know,
an athlete?

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:22):
I think he is. Honestly, I think you think about it.
Like I said, his stomach is exerting, But you do
have to train for something like you.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Would think you'd be bad as a house do I
just you can't just say, hey, hon, I think I'm
gonna enter in the hot Dog Gain contest this year
and then eat sixty two hot dogs in ten men.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
He got a train, You gotta train. But how do
you even g's in pretty good shape that he's not fat?

Speaker 3 (02:42):
I know he is in good shape. How do you
even train for that? Do you start with ten dogs?

Speaker 2 (02:46):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
They move up to thirty, then forty?

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Then how do you After I watched it, I said,
I'm never gonna have a hot dog again. The rest
of my life.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
I think there's a training facility for something like that.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
I think there's a key to how you could be
a professional eater. I guess said it's called But is
he an athlete? Is he in this same look? Etliot
de Lacruz yesterday stole three bases for the Cincinnety reads
on two pitches. Yeah, he hit a single, got on first,
stole second, stole third that he stole home. He's an athlete.
He's a he's a runner, He's an athlete. Joe Burrow,

(03:16):
he's an athlete. Is Joey Chess not an athlete? What's
an athlete?

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Well, here's an athlete.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
An athlete is a person who is proficient in sports
and other forms of physical exercise. That's considered an athlete.
So is Joey Chestnut proficient in?

Speaker 3 (03:35):
God?

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Do I think he's proficient in that? And that goes
back to my meaning of like sport, which I don't
think is a sport. And there are activities in my
mind that are considered sports. They fall under the umbrella sport,
but I don't think there's sports. And I'll tell you why.
Here's my definition. If you could perform the activity while
holding a beer. It's not a sport. All right. Corn Hoole,

(03:56):
which I see on TV, is not a sport because
you could drink a beer while you're performing cornhole? All right?
What about synchronized swimming? Is that a sport? I don't
think that's a sport. Why is that kidding me?

Speaker 4 (04:08):
They're in what eight feet for the water, and then
they have to tread the entire time they're swimming around.
I can't imagine being a synchronized swimmer, let her alone,
knowing all.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
The choreography that goes from. That's not a sport. Well,
how about this, okay, chess? We I think we agreed,
that's definitely not a sport. But it's in the Olympics,
isn't it. I think chess is. This is the Olympics,
So there, chess. Chess is not a sport.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
I can see synchronized swimming. I can't see chess. Okay,
drinking games obviously not a sport. What about this, Okay,
horseback riding, that's a good one.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
I don't know. I mean, who's the athlete the horse
of the guy the guy riding the horse.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
That's that's a great question. Okay, I'll dive a little
bit deeper, please. Jockey.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
I think a jockey is an athlete that he thinks.
So I don't think Joe Blow could get on the
back of a horse and do well. However, the jockey
success is dependent upon the horse he rides. I mean,
you could have a great jockey riding a mule and
he's not gonna win to Kentucky Derby. Right. Okay, See,
I think the horse is very similar to like a coach.
I mean, you get a coach like a Bill Belichick

(05:12):
who coached the Cleveland Browns. He lost. He was a
losing coach that he gets to Tom Brady. It's all
about personnel. He wins. Yeah, okay, so it's crazy, but
I have to go that. Perhaps it is, but I'll
throw it. What at you bowling bowling? You could drink
a beer while you're bowling, Hence it is not a sport.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
Well, you're you're moving the ball down the lane, and
there's skill involved in bowling.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
You see the way that some of these people bowl.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
They got that nice little spin towards the edge and
then it comes right back in towards the middle and
it's a strike every side.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Look, that's an activity it's an activity. It's not a sport.
I mean, and again there's not a league. I think
that to have a sport you have to have a league.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Don't you think that there is a professional league, the PBL,
the Professional Bowlers.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
But they're competing against or another. They're not like teams,
not like you know, New York against since well it's
not like a major like rugby to have a rugby league.
Have of lacrosse league right now, the NHL, NBA, Major
League Baseball, NFL. Yeah, yeah, that's sport.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
So a sport.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
So you're talking the difference between an activity and a
sport and anything that that involves or that you can
have a beer in your hand is more of an activity.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
No doubt.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
That's not a sport.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Well, in other words, you and your buds are out
there on a Wednesday night, Hey, what do you want
to do tonight? Let's go bowling In a sense when
you really say, let's go drinking and the bowl while
we're drinking. That's what you do. You know, someth need
to do. Right, Yeah, it's an activity.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
It's an activity.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, you do need to exert yourself and obviously if
you haven't done it, in a long time. You're gonna
go home with some pains in your elbow, your on
and your back. Perhaps, Okay, but you know what, you
could do that by moving, you know, you're moving from
one place to another. You could do that if you
sit on your rear end all day.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
What about like running, Is that is that really a sports?
An exercise? Exercise?

Speaker 2 (07:00):
The sport? I don't think so, I don't.

Speaker 5 (07:02):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
I think they so.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
And what about what about golf where.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
You could drink a beer playing golf? So I don't know.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
That's well, the PGA, they're not they're not charging beers.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Let's go back to the running situation. Go back to
the exercises. All right. Yeah, it's something that's prescribed usually
by a doctor. Okay, you go to a doctor or
a Kyle practice say you know, hey, doc, my back
is killing me. He said, Okay, go home, and here's
a sheet of paper. Do these stretching exercises, all right.
Not a sport, it's a it's a curole. It's like

(07:32):
going to the to the drugstore and getting medication. That's
basically what it is.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
So something like yoga, someone who's doing yoga, that's not
considered a sport. No, there's no activity that right in
yoga that you're competing against one another.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
But that's not you're exposing these people that are trying
to sell us on things that are sport and they're
not sport. That's why I'm hoping the world is listening
right now and they realize that we know what's going on.
You hold a beer in your hand, it's not a sport.
Golf with your buds not really a sport. But p
G a PG a different. It's PGA. It's professionals getting paid, right,

(08:08):
it's an activity you're competing. You're not really competing. When
you're got golfing with your budget, you may bet a
bucket to a whole. Maybe it's not really competing, but
you're going out there to kill some time, have fun
with your friends on the golf course, having a couple
of beers. What else you got lay it on me?
Lay what else you got for it?

Speaker 3 (08:25):
So we covered chests.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
When go back to the jockey thing, how about a
jockey because you came from the racetrack, I.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Was not a jockey. Harness horses the driver of in sulky.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yeah, see that's that's he's at that point. He's not
an athlete. He's sitting in the buggy, but he's got
the reins in his hands and the horse is moving around.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Some talent there, there's some skill, Oh what skill standing
between two horses over there. Perhaps that's tough. I'll give
you that's tough. But you don't really have to be
in shape. But I guess that if you're real heavy,
it's gonna be difficult for the horse to pull you
in the sulky.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
In that situation, I would agree that the horse is
the athlete.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
There's no jockey, no doubts there for some fun.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Well, in other words, you're trying to say that any
clown could get into the sulky and be pulled by
any horse. Of course, it goes back to the jockey
and the In thoroughbred racing, the jockey is only as
good as the horse he's on, right. The driver in
harness racing is only as good in the sulky as
the standard bread that pulls up. Yeah, that's basically what

(09:30):
it's all about. So basically the jockey and or driver
takes credit for the real athlete in that sport, which
is the horse.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
I'll throw you a big curveball here. I don't think
NASCAR is a sport. The drivers are not really athletes.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
I agree with you.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
Physical exertion. Is a NASCAR driver exerting. I mean, maybe
it gets a little hot and he's sweating. Big deal.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
The only, the only, the only problem I foresee in
that situation, in like the twenty four hours at Lemon's
or something, if you gotta go to the toilet, then
what do you do?

Speaker 3 (09:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (10:00):
But I think they do it right inside the deal,
right in their uniform whatever you want to call it,
the costume. I call it a costume, right, because they're
not real. Look, I don't know if one driver is
better than the other, but I know it all depends
upon the car and the engine, right.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
Well, the car in the engine, and I will say
skill set. But when we look at the definition a
person who is proficient in sports and other forms of
physical exercise, there's no physical exercise in driving a NASCAR right.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
So let's go back and recircle what we started. Joey Chestnut,
to me, in your mind, is he an athlete? I
think to some extent he is because he trains, he's
exerting himself, and he's competing with others. He's made something
like five hundred thousand dollars. He gets that five hundred
thousand a year. He's won this thing sixteen times. I

(10:49):
give him credits an athlete. Is that a sport? I
don't know. I still don't know if hot dog eating
is a sport. However, he's made a living doing it
and he's competing against the others. So I'll give him
the benefit of the doubt.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
There, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt I'll
get I'll call him an athlete because he's training for this,
and I don't know how you train.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
I'd like to find it. Rather than watch the contest,
which I think is disgusting, you know, winning that hot
dog in the water and shoving it down in your
mouth with a bun. I'd rather see how he trains.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
Yeah, you know, he must starve himself for three days.
The one thing I think about, how did he even
find out he was good at this?

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Right, That's what happened in his life.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
That someone said, yo, you should go and.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Do you know what it was? But his mom said,
Joey stop eating. Joey stop eating. Really all right, we
got to the end of that. However, people may have
comments on that because we're not entirely right all the time,
especially you. Really, because I heard the promo at the
beginning to show the open like find out which is
the smartest one. I mean, honestly, that puts a little

(11:50):
pressure on us. So the numbers eight seven seven ninety
nine one fox that translates to eight seven seven nine
nine six sixty three sixty nine or tweet us at
Andy Furman FSI, what is this? Threads? There's another question
I got. You don't even have a Twitter account anymore.
Now you're on threads. Threads underscore, alex f you are, yeah,
alex Fir underscore. It's a cheap imitation of Twitter, that's

(12:11):
what they tell me.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Well, I think a lot of people are just sick
and tired of Twitter. Once, once Elon Musk got a
hold of it and he changed everything around, people were
just they were done with it, they were out of it, right,
and then he started letting people if it really gave
Twitter a whole bad image. And I don't think Twitter
is as active as it was I say, ten years ago.

(12:34):
You know, yeah, you still got the big names of celebrities,
you know, tweeting stuff, but I just don't.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
I'm not.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
The big apps honestly, is Instagram Instagram's big, Twitter's big?

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Or Facebook?

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Well, Facebook's are good, it's.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Good, but it's it's yeah yeahs.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
I mean the day he came out, Dad, thirty million
people came on.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Three and then they did a thirty million people and
they certainly because they didn't like the Eli Muss situation.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
With Yeah yeah, I think it's a new Maybe I'll
join them.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
So so tell me a threat account.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
So yes, underscore Alex fu r.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
All right, Alex fer okay on line up today, ask
Alex in place of Jeff Schwartz. So we've got that
coming up in this our bottom barrel betting on our
number two and the blame game, the blame game and
our number three. Now, did she take freedom of speech
a bit too far? That's next.

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Speaker 3 (13:39):
What was she thinking?

Speaker 2 (13:41):
We'll get to that in just about a minute. Hey's
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(14:01):
Progressive dot com. Now we got this little discussion we
had in the first segment of sport versus athlete versus?
What is and what is not a sport? And I
guess Bill has a comment from that. Bill's in Jacksonville
wants to talk to us on Fox Sports Sunday. Good morning, Bill, Sure.

Speaker 5 (14:18):
How are you going good? And I can tell just
by listeners to them talk It's Alex.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
It's Alex, Yes, Alex.

Speaker 5 (14:28):
He's a fine young man, Fine, fine young I want
to fouls your question.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
Yes, sir, I'm all yours.

Speaker 5 (14:37):
Okay, how did I feel? I have a father that's
on sports talk radio who's got to call it with
the dumbest, most ridiculous remark I've ever hurt in my life.
Tell me how it really feels to hear those stupid
remarks to come out of his mouth. Almost every time
I listen to it, it makes me want a puke.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
Really, you know, I'll tell you this. At this point
in my life, I'm just used to it. I've been
hearing it all in my life. I'm just at this point.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yeah, WHOA, all right, I don't mean to make you puke.
I certainly appear I apologize.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
We're just here to have a little fun. So let's
get to it.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Don't take it that serious, Okay, we move on. All
of a sudden, Now this name has become like a
household name. We talk about freedom of speech, and I
think freedom of speech is a wonderful thing because we
have it here, and guys like Bill don't appreciate it,
but we have it. We have it here, we have
it in our country. But sometimes it's best to keep quiet.
And that goes for a young lady. But the name
of a Natasha Cloud, Natasha Cloud from the Washington Mystics,

(15:35):
who called America trash and why did she do that?
She got some heavy criticism about that. It was about
I guess the Supreme Court decision. Response to that. The
Supreme Court recently route affirmative action for college admissions is
unconstitutional and ruled that the government can force compelled speech
when it comes to an art and relationship to a
website designer. Okay, and she says, quote, our country is

(15:57):
trash in so many ways, and instead of you seeing
our resources to make it better, we continue to oppress
and marginalized groups that we have targeted since the beginning
of times Black Brown communities at lb GTQ plus. Man,
we are too powerful to still be attacking issues. Okay,
she said this, and you know what, you thought she'd
maybe walking back. She didn't. She doubled down on this.

(16:18):
Why would she do this? I was shocked. I mean
to someone to come out like this, and honestly, if
you want to make a name for yourself, this is
not the way to do it.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, dad.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
Well here's the thing. She's on a platform, right, she's
on a platform. She's a professional athlete, she has people
following her, and she feels that rightfully, so she has
the right to express her opinion.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
And I love that.

Speaker 4 (16:41):
I do love that, and I love that she's exercising
that right. But you know, I think some things are
should be said just behind doors. Right, But if you
are going to say something, perhaps doing it do it
in a more respectful way to say that her country
is trash. That I don't think that's a respectful way.

(17:04):
That's gonna get people to notice to you. That's gonna
get people to look at you.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
But that's not gonna that's not gonna get the the
outcome that you want. That's not gonna get the response
dad that you want. They're not gonna listen to your message.
They're only gonna focus on the first para or first
sentence in the in your line, our country is trash,
and you can't say that kind of stuff, you.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Know what, She could have used it in a different
sort of way, say I'm not happy with the Supreme
Court decision, but to say the country is trash is crazy. Now,
It's obviously she has no regrets right now with calling
America traish because again she doubled down.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Now.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
She also says that she claims that people get this,
people hate her simply because she's a gay, black woman.
She didn't provide any specifics about that, but that's what
she said. You know, I think she needs some help,
she needs some direction, and I don't know where she's
gonna get that from. But just to look around and
obviously her teammates. No one came out to either defender

(18:00):
or kind of calm her down. But this came out
of left field. This came out of nowhere. I mean
I didn't expect this, and I don't think anybody did
that have to be quite honest, you, I hadn't heard
much about Natasha Cloud prior to this, and maybe that's
what she wanted. And I'm sure there's a lot of
people out there rallying with her. That's the scary part
of it.

Speaker 4 (18:18):
Well, well, maybe they're rallying with her dad on the issues, right,
but they're not rallying with her. I can't see anyone
rallying with her agreeing that said this country is trash.
Now now having her teammates reach out to her, we
really don't know this because this could be behind closed doors,
right yeah, on personal you know, messages, phone calls.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
People might be reaching out to her. Now.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
I'll tell you this, as an immigrant to this country, Dad,
I'm blessed to be in America.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
You know, you tell your story. People don't know where
you're from.

Speaker 4 (18:52):
Well, I'm originally from Bulgaria, which if you don't know
where that's in the world, it's over by Russia, so
Eastern Europe is where I'm from.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
I can't find on a map.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
I was born in a I don't even think first
world country. It was right after communism, you know, broke
loose and the country had no money, so it's a
very poor country. But I'm so happy to be here
in America. I'm blessed to be here. I'm blessed to
have my citizenship and to have my rights. And I
love that she's expressing her rights. But you know, America

(19:22):
is my country. I'm an American citizen and I love
my country. And for her to say that it's trash,
it just breaks my heart.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Dad, that you're one that's bleeding your your nationalism and
your support for America, which is great. And that's why
I'm so concerned and interested. Why no one else did you?
Are a teammate? I mean, I'm sure there was some
media people. After she said this, they went around the
locker room and asked other teammates and say, well, what
do you think of her remark? I guess they were

(19:52):
either afraid to say anything, afraid to criticize a teammate
because they would lose perhaps a quote friend or getting involved.
People don't like any involved, so they just kept quiet,
which I don't think there's a way to go.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
I think it is some aspects it might be a
way to go. Dad.

Speaker 4 (20:07):
A true leadership, A true leader doesn't need to be
in the spotlight or or have their name plattered out
to say that I'm doing the right thing right, I'm
speaking out.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Of good bysh Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 (20:20):
Sometimes you can still be a leader, Dad, behind closed
doors and have these private conversations and we don't know
if that's actually happening.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
I would I would say that.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
That might be happening right, either leaders on the team
or other leaders in the league.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
But you would fail having these conversations.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
So we we go so deep in media in this
day and age, with social media and so many outlets
and so many platforms, you would think there be one
enterprising media person who would go back to her college
coach and say, did she act like this while she
was playing college basketball? I mean, that's why I'm so
confused that it just she said this, laid the bombshell,
and it just went away and no one said anything,

(21:00):
no one. I mean it would amaze me.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
Yeah, it really did. Yeah. We again, we just don't know.
It just breaks my heart, Dad, It really, it really
does break my heart.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
You know, it breaks my heart. The phone call I
got by Bilb and Jackson, Well, that breaks my heart.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
I think some things. I don't think what she said
was what was stupid?

Speaker 3 (21:17):
Right.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
I believe that she spoke out and she has the
right and she's expressing her right. And you know, I'll
say it. I love that she's doing that. I love
that she's expressing the right and given out her opinions.
But you know, it might be she might be a
little bit misjudged.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
You know, she she might not know, you know, really
what's going on on a bigger picture or comparing, you know,
America is trash?

Speaker 4 (21:44):
Has she visited any other country? Has she visited a
first world country? Does she really know what's going on
in the world? And halfway stuff like that, I mean
to compare.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
I mean, I'm gonna make you halfway. When you say,
like you respect what she said, I do too, because
when they give the opportunity. She never said I was misquoted.
She doubled down and said it was trash again. So
a lot of people say something no, no, no, no, I was misquoted.
They misquoted me, so she didn't say that. She kept
on saying with the traits. But we'll continue. He's Alex Furman,
I'm Andy Furman. We're rolling along here. This is Fox
Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. Hey, by the way,

(22:16):
there was one man. There was one man who stood
all alone right here on Fox Sports Sunday, and that's
live from the Tyrock dot Com studio. Will tell you
who he is. But first, here's Kevin Wyatt with all
the sports.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (22:26):
A couple of impressive feats accomplished in Major League Baseball yesterday. First,
there was a no hitter thrown.

Speaker 7 (22:34):
The yotsuit pitch swinging at chopper left side, charging in mckinstrey.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
I'm the first no hitter. For the first time.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
In franchise history, the Tigers.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
Have thrown a no hitter.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
I combined no hitter as the.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Mob Alex laying on the mound, and they have done
it here today. Jimmy, what a win for the Tigers.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
A no hitter this afternoon.

Speaker 6 (22:58):
Tiger's radio network is Detroit finishes off Toronto two nothing.
Matt Manning went six and two thirds innings, walking three batters,
and when he was pulled in the seventh inning. He
had absolutely no idea. They hadn't allowed to hit yet
to that point. Now we're off to Cincinnati and Ellie
de la Cruz, a sensational rookie for the Reds, continues

(23:18):
to impress. And I think he just I think he
did something that I don't think anyone would have expected
even from him.

Speaker 7 (23:25):
High light kick coming to the plate, he'll steal third base.
Ellie dayla Cruz roll without even a throw the third baseman,
Brian Brian Anderson didn't even go that was coming home her.

Speaker 6 (23:36):
You say, Red's Radio network theory are He's still three
bases in a row of just two pitches. As the
Reds taking a two game lead in the National League Central,
they beat the Brewers eight to five, the Dodgers pounding
Angels ten to five. They sweep all four games in
this year's Freeway Series. The Diamondbacks beat the Pirates three

(23:59):
to two. That means Arizona still half a game ahead
of the Dodgers in the National League West. Another narrow
races in the AL Central, the Guardians seizing the lead
after they beat the Royals ten to six, the Twins
losing to the Orioles six to two. And in the
NBA on Saturday, they announced the format for their new

(24:21):
in season tournament. Now the pools will consist of five
teams in three each in the Western and Eastern Conferences,
and that'll all take place in November. The semi finals
and finals will be early December in Las Vegas, and
the grand prize for the team that wins. Each player
will receive five hundred thousand dollars. And in the college ranks,

(24:41):
former West Virginia basketball coach Bob Huggins how does Attorney
send a letter to the school saying that Huggins never
resigned after last month's guy rest and that he expects
to have his job back. And in soccer, Megan Rappino
retiring after this year. And on Sunday, the US women's
national team are gonna have their final tun before they
head out to the World Cup.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Back to you, guys, nice Kevin, Okay, where did everyone
else go? That's coming right up. He's Alex Furman. I'm
Andy Furman. This is Fox Sports Sunday. I'm Fox Sports.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
Ready.

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before we roll onto this subject over here, I just
want to mention that Kevin mentioned that Bob Huggins situation.
What a sid situation that is. I mean, and we

(25:33):
know Bob Huggins from Cincinnati coaching here and at West
Virginia right now, a legend in West Virginia. He played there.
It was an All American there. And to go out
like this after making the Hall of Fame this past year,
and his attorneys are saying that he wasn't fired, he
didn't resign, he was fired. He wants his job back
and he went to rehab. This story's not going to
be over for a while.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
Yeah, it really paints a bad ending picture for Bob Huggins.
An amazing career both on the court and then on
the side of the court, right Gosh, the Hall of
Fame career, you know, you just hate to see that
for a guy who really had it all and then
just kind of you know, we we talk about that

(26:14):
and and a few a few other athletes.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
We talked about this on the show. You know where
you want to end on the high and the best
way that you can possibly be. And then you know
some athletes they'll just try and drag it on, drag
it on, drag it on, and then you just remember
them towards the end of their career where they're just
you know, really bad or it's just not what they
were in the beginning of the career. Right. This is

(26:37):
the whole thing with Pop Hupkins. Right, you know, everyone
remembers them as such an amazing coach, a great Hall
of Fame coach.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
But now is going to be that he went out
because he was a d u I guy. That's people
legacy is going to go up because he was a
gambler exactly, dream exactly. No matter how good you did
in the world, forget about it. You're always going to
be remembered.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
For the dui or for the gambling, and that's what
people will remember you by. And that's he can't end
like that, man, right, can't do it.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
By the way, Alex Forrman's infigep Schwartz today. But that
asked Alex at about seven eight minutes from now, Okay,
we heard when Natasha Cloud had to say about America.
She traished America. But you know what, not only has
the WNBA the league itself been quiet, they have issued
no response. The Washington Mystics, the team she plays for,
they also stuck the head in the sand. But honestly, really,
what could they do? It is freedom of speech, right,
so I guess they hands the tie. But one man,

(27:26):
this is unbelievable. One man former NBA player Enis can't
their freedom? Had a comment, where is everybody? Else Where
was the outspoken Lebron James? Lebron James has everything and
I love him. I love him as a basketball player.
He has the platform and he uses it pretty damn good.
He talks about everything, comments about everything. Where was Lebron James?
The outspoken Lebron James. We didn't even hear from Charles Barkley.

(27:48):
But as far as can't the freedom, he says, quote,
I'm offering her or anybody else, I'll buy their ticket
first class taken to some of these regimes out there.
And by the way, where was Britney grind Her who
was hell for nearly a year in Russian custody on
a drug charge. Where was she she's if she at
one point in time, I guess she felt the same way.

(28:09):
Does she trash America? Now? How come these people aren't
speaking up? You must have a comment on that.

Speaker 4 (28:14):
Like I said before, I think maybe some of these
people are reaching out to her in a more private setting, right.
They're calling her privately, they're texting her privately, they're messenger privately.
Maybe they don't want to get pulled into the situation,
but they have comments and they have, you know, something
to say to her and saying open your eyes. Now,
I love what Freedom did and offered to a plane

(28:35):
ride anywhere in the world to really go.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
See other issues.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
You know, you're from Turkey, so he knows what it's
like to be there and come here. So that's life.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
So that's my comment before you know, perhaps she just
doesn't really know what goes on in other parts of
the world, know how good she has or how good
she has it. She doesn't have this perspective that of
course other people might have, and that she only sees
it looking through one lens, where she had an opportunity
to look through multiple lenses. It may change her perspective, right,

(29:08):
and then she may recan't her comment, you know, and
I commend Freedom for stepping up to the plate and swinging.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
I commend But could you.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
See Natasha Cloud, maybe in the next week or so,
coming out and saying that she was wrong, just to
backtrack and apologize. I don't know I could see it happening.
I really can, can you? Yes? I think I think
the pressure is gonna be, like you say, may not
be public pressure, but friends and people close to her,
maybe even a Britney Grinder who plays in the league
with her, will get on the horn and say, look,

(29:41):
you need to step up and say look, it's not
not good I.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Think for her, cause that may be one of the
best things that she can do. Right.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
You know, when we talk about you know, athletes in
the spotlight in situation like this, how are they judged? Right,
They're judged by their demeanor, by how they're going to
approach the situation.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Right. The way that she's approaching the.

Speaker 4 (30:02):
Situation isn't really looking good for her and really isn't
spreading the message that she wants to spread, because all
they're focused on is the one comment on America's stress,
and this is everything else that she's saying but if
she cancers, if she just approaches it in more of
a cunning way or a symbolic way, then her message

(30:25):
will be heard.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
I don't watch many WNBA games if I have it
to flick on the TV and the New York liberty
of playing, because I'm from Brooklyn, I know what they're doing.
I followed Breonna Stewart, so I'll watch a little bit
of that. I'd like to see the Watchington mystics on
TV and the response that the crowd would give her
they see her play. That would be interesting. That's what
I'd like to see because although maybe there aren't that
many people attending these games anyway, I don't know, but

(30:48):
that's the thing i'd like to see. But it's funny
when you say in his freedom did he says, Look,
he says, I just can't believe how these athletes are
so uneducated about what's going on the rest of the world.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
And that's a great statement. Yeah you said it.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
You even mentioned it because you grew up in Bulgaria.
You know what it's like to live there and come here.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
Yeah. Yeah, I remember an the orphanage.

Speaker 4 (31:08):
I mean, our our breakfast, lunch, and dinner was just
yogurt every day, every day. Everyone was just yogurt, right,
And that's all that the Orphanage could afford because it
was a it was a first world country, it was
a very poor country. And to have Freedom offer a
plane ride, let me show you other parts of the world,

(31:30):
let me show you what's really going on.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
I hope that brings some perspective.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
And I hope other athletes Lebron James, Brittany Grinder, I
hope they're reaching out to her and trying to put
some some put.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
Some perspective right in her head. Well Freedom said this, Uh,
I feel she's just an educated enough she just know
any better or worse. She's just hating on this beautiful country.
And that's what she's doing. And and I feel for her.
And again I'm with you, like I respect her that
she did that. She has every right to do. That
does but it doesn't do any good for anybody, especially her,

(32:03):
that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
And she wants to make a statement that that's perfectly fine.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
But you know you, you always taught me action speaks
louder than words.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
I did.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
Oh yeah that, oh yeah, oh yeah. Absolutely So if
you're gonna get behind a movement, maybe do some do
some more actions, you know, volunteer at the time, and
which I imagine, imagine that she is. You know, she's
she's doing that kind of stuff. But I don't know.
You say comments like this, It just because a bad picture.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Man, that picture, I know, and I thought some of
the comments I make behind the microphone are bed. But
this is not this cano d Yeah there Ago, Yeah,
he's Alex Ferman. He's Info Jeff Schwartz. I'm Andy Furman.
By the way, he's no Schwartz, but he's my kid.
Ask Colex's next, Ask Gillis right around the band, He's
Alex Ferman. If Jeff Schwartz, I'm Andy Furman. We're live
from the tyraq dot com studios about thirteen minutes before

(32:54):
the top of the hour. What are we waiting for?
It's time for ask Gillis. Let's get a little music here.
Are you ready? You're on the hot seat right now?
Are you ready?

Speaker 3 (33:02):
Let's do it?

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Can you handle it?

Speaker 3 (33:03):
I was born, I was born ready, give it?

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Give it?

Speaker 3 (33:08):
Yeah, let's get it. Sorry.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
Bajor League Baseball All Star Game except for Tuesday night.
How I ask you which Pro All Star Game is
the best? And why in your estimation.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
Well, let's go through the list here real quick. What
you got the Pro Ball for the NFL, which is
you got the All Star Game in the NBA. You
got All Star Week for the MLB.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
You got the Ryder Cup in golf, which every two
years normally it's the best golfers in America versus Europe.
I'm gonna have to go Ryder Cup. Really, I love
the Ryder Cup. It's a huge, it's awesome.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
I know you.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
As far as spectators concern this l MLB, m L,
I'm with the MLB.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
Yeah, christ what you got the celebrity game? You got
home run Derby? Of course, you got the All Star
Game versus the l n L. Yeah, I gotta go LB.
The Dunk contest is a joke. The big guys don't
even show up anymore. Lebron hasn't been there in years.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Yeah. And the way they play, they score two hundred points.
It's nuts. It's like, yeah, okay, all right, next, Okay,
you played college football, you played in high school. In
high school, you wrestled, you ran track, and you were
football in high school. What are the advantages of being
an athlete in school? Because you know me, I was
a geek, you know, I didn't the manager of the
band that what the kids called you. No, not, you
didn't call me that though.

Speaker 4 (34:17):
Well, I think some of the advantages of being an athlete,
you know, in school. One, you're seeing as a leader
in school, right, you know, you got the jersey on
on game days, you're seen as a leader.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
People look up to you. Right.

Speaker 4 (34:30):
You make tons of friends on the team, right, you know,
and even lifelong friends you make on the team, you know.
So those are some of the advantages of being in sports.
In school's advantages.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
Yeah, after a big loss, it's kind of it's kind
of hard to walk around school.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Not even as sometimes the teachers will say something, what.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
Happens it And then you know, people will come up
to you and they'll start asking questions. You know, what
happened out there? And you know that's football.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
You lost.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
You dropped the pass on and you were wide open.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
If you didn't get that, try you get that in
the football.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
Yeah, yeah, in football.

Speaker 4 (35:05):
Yeah, well, I mean even track, you know, he's like, man,
what happened you know, you got a bad start out
of the gate or something like that, or now it's
a bad handoff with the baton. You know, it's sometimes
after a bad loss, it's kind of it's kind of
hard to walk around campus.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Yeah, Now you talk about athletes, is it fair in
your mind that athletes lives now they were like an
open book at least on social media. The latest now
I'm reading on social media Tom Brady is being linked
with Kim Kardashian.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
You know, I think it's fair, especially, Yeah, think about it,
especially in a professional setting. Think about it, and even
Jeff said it. You know, when when you.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
Become a professional athlete, you're automatically a role model, whether
you want to be a role model or not. Right,
people kids, they look up to you, and now that
you're a professional, your life is in the spotlight. So
if you're going to become a professional athlete, you have
to expect that your life is going to be written
in the newspapers, it's going to be on ESPN, it's

(36:03):
going to be in television, or it's going to be
plastered all over social media.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
It's kind of what people expect nowadays. I kind of
hate to say that that you can't have a personal life,
but that's the that's the truth.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
I mean, Michael Jordan said he never would go out
with dinnery was the room service. You just can't go.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
Look about it, man, that must that must be.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
And the worst part of it is like, look, I
understand if people bug you at the time of restaurants
for not you, but the bug athletes for autograss and whatever.
But now in this day and age, you can't do
a darn thing because everybody has a photographer. Everybody's a
photographer with their phone. Oh yeah, okay, So say someone
wants to take a picture with you and there's a
young man and a young woman. You put your arm
around the woman. Next thing you know, it gets on

(36:42):
the internet and you're in trouble.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
Yeah, you gotta be careful or they ask you for
a picture, you refuse and then they plaster all over.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
He turned me down, Yeah, he turned it down.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
He's a jark. He has no time for his fans
or whatever. Yeah, I mean, he can't win. But honestly, like,
if you're a professional athlete, you know what you're signing
up for, right You know that my personal life is
not a personal life anymore. It's in the media exactly.
There's no privacy.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Okay. And speaking of athletes. Who is the athlete or
maybe athletes that you admire the most and why, oh.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
That's a great question. Who's the athletes?

Speaker 2 (37:18):
You know?

Speaker 3 (37:18):
I love? I love Tiger Woods. He's a great athlete,
great golfer.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Uh to admire him though, isn't it? I mean as
an athlete, but his lifestyle.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
Yeah, yeah, lifestyle is not Ricky Fowler. I love Ricky Fawler.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
He's like the hometown kid that every everybody who follows
golf loves Rickey Faller because he's like the hometown kid
no matter where he goes, Right, everyone's always rooting for
Ricky and.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
We're always rooting for a win.

Speaker 4 (37:43):
And he just got a big win at the Honda Classic,
so finally he took a trophy home.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
But you're not. You're avoiding the team sports now. I mean,
like look Cincinnati thinking.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
You know, I love Joe Burrow what he's done for
the Bengals, turning the turning the Bengals around.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
But more than that, I think he's just a good
you say leader, Yeah, he's a good guy. Yeah, you know, yeah, never,
he'll never get in trouble, you know, talking.

Speaker 4 (38:06):
About you know, professional athletes in the media. You really
never hear anything about Joe Burrow, right media, right, good
or bad?

Speaker 3 (38:12):
Right? You know when he kept pretty pre private life.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
When Taylor Swift came to Cincinnati a week ago, the
big deal was was he either the girl of the
concert or he just stayed away? He doesn't. He doesn't
look for that. He's more interested in his in his
uh you know, helping others with his charity.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
You know what he is. He's smart. He is, he's smart.
He's not gonna put it. And we talked about this.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
I believe in the last show, putting yourself in a
situation that's gonna cause trouble, right, Joe Burrow does not
put himself in a situation that might cause some trouble.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
I would say most asthletes are that way. We only
read about us. See the ones that are in trouble. Yes,
and really and truly there's only a handful of them,
not a lot. Most of them are like the Joe
Burrow types.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
Yes, right, yes, last.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
But not leaves. Okay, would you ender the Nathan's fourth
of July hot dog get in context? Do you think
you'd like to try to do that?

Speaker 3 (39:01):
Honestly?

Speaker 4 (39:03):
No, But at the dad, I can't even eat five
hot dogs.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
That's a lot.

Speaker 4 (39:08):
I mean five hot dogs. My stomach is busting, my
pants is ripping at the scenes. I can't enter the
hot dog eating contest?

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Would you? Would you train? All right, so you're not
gonna do that.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
Maybe an ice cream eating contest, not a hot.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
One form of pro he's hot and he has every
reason to be. We're gonna tell you who he is
right here next. All right, you're gonna make me cry.
Stats are great, but actions also count. We'll get to
that in just a minute. Yes, he's Alex Fermanan for
Jeff Schwartz. I'm Andy Furman. And by the way, we're
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Speaker 1 (40:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (40:05):
Yeah, I'm ready. You know, I got to say you
really quick, Charles, I got, Charles Van, Charles, thank you,
correct me. I was saying first world country, I met
third world countries. Honestly, Dad, I get my numbers mixed.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Up alone, and I can tell you never were good math.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
No, it wasn't gonna mass the third world.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
Country, which is Bulgaria where you're from. You'll go with
yes as opposed to first world. We're talking about Natasha Cloud,
who basically traish America.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
Yes, okay, thank you.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Close that. Thank you, Charles Van saying, okay, now we
talk about the NFL. The NFL is king, and the
question is why do you think it's king? Why is
everybody talking football? Be the way they space out there,
their events, I mean the draft, it's a year round thing,
three sixty five, seven days a week. And and the
way they play their games, and it's set up perfectly.
They played two three times a week midweek, they talk

(40:49):
about the next game. It's it's a perfect setup. And
only seventeen games, so every game is so meaningful. Okay,
And the stories come flying in all the time. People
eat them up. It's like a daily soap opera. Okay,
that doesn't happen in basketball, doesn't happen in baseball. Howk
caesus are too long, They just don't have those kind
of stories. Take this one, former Bengal running back Corey Dillon.
He popped his mouth the other day met about the

(41:11):
team's ring of honor this election process, they had a
ring of honor and out of Bengals, they have it
in the stadium for the second year now. And he's
the team's all time leading rusher. So regardless who's doing
the voting, which is not happy about, right, whoever's doing
the voting, he should be in. There's no doubt about that.
He should be in. But he popped his mouth. And
the problem is is only second year of the process.
Another problem his pass actions. People remember what you say

(41:35):
and do. To management, he said he would rather flip
Burgers than play for the Bengals at one point in time. Also,
the very last game he played here, he took off
his shoulder pads and threw him in the stands. You know,
when your bad mouth management, it may very well come
back to haunt you if you work at a radio
station all right and you leave you by your own accord,
or if you get the axe and you're fired, you

(41:58):
go on social media start badmouth the people, there's a
real good chance they'll never take you back again. Yeah,
you gotta be careful. Actions are probably more important in
my mind than the statistical evidence that he has for
being the old time leading rusher of this team.

Speaker 8 (42:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
Yeah, you definitely can't be burning your bridges, you know,
whenever you're leaving or whenever you're just upset with management.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
What a time? I have always heard that what of bridges?
Who wears bridges? Now? Does anybody biddy bridge?

Speaker 3 (42:25):
Bridges? Bridge bridges?

Speaker 2 (42:27):
Bridges? Bridges? Okay a toll bridge?

Speaker 3 (42:30):
Crank up the hearing a dad. Honestly, I would agree
why he's upset. I mean, he has a valid point.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
He is the most leading rusher you know in Bangles
for franchise history. I understand why he would be upset,
and I think, honestly, he's not upset at the Bengals.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
I think really the.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
Real issue is is he's just upset at the voting
process and he makes a couple of valid points, then
he does you know. So here's the voting process. The
voting process is done by season ticket hole or box
seat holders, sweets Sweet Sweets holders.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
Yes, that's weak. Those are the.

Speaker 4 (43:05):
People that get to vote in these Ring of Hall
of Fames, right, And it's not a commission.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
There's no committee, no, and none of that.

Speaker 4 (43:14):
But one of his arguments is, I think it's valid
the people that are voting these people in.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Has he even seen him play?

Speaker 2 (43:22):
I agree, they don't even know who he is. But
it's an ingenious method on the part of the Cincinnati Bengals.
This takes the pressure off management that hire committee, no
doubt about that.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
And it could be former players, I agree, former staff,
anybody higher, committee, sweetholders.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
I mean, come on, that's like buying a vote. You know,
I buy a suite, I get a vote. These people
have no idea who Corey Dyllon is, That's what I'm saying.
And they have no idea that he has eight thousand
plus rushing yards eighteen hundred and sixty five attempts tossed
to the Bengals, and the Bengals let him go to
the New England Patriots where he led them in rushing
and he won a Super Bowl with that, this guy
should be in the Ring of Honor, There's no doubt
about that. But the point is this, he did quick

(44:00):
in one game when Bruce Cosso was the coach. He
quit in the middle of the game, just stopped playing, okay,
And the last game was I e mentually put the
shoulder pads and pushed them in the stands. So when
your bad mouth your boss, it's gonna come back and
haunt you. But I still believe he will one day
be in the Ring of arn I think he has
to be, you know, I.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
Think he has to be. I really do.

Speaker 4 (44:18):
And honestly, I hate to say, bygones, be bygones, but
I don't think throwing the pads into the stands is
really going to affect his ability to get into the
Ring of Fame or the what's it called, the Ring
of the Ring of Honor, Yeah, the Ring of Honor.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
I don't think that's going to affect it. Honestly.

Speaker 4 (44:33):
The biggest factor here is the fans voting, and to
his point, they don't even know who.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
The heck he is.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Dad.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
You know what, I would love to.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
Add, that's a really he makes a really good point.
But then he's man, he is so fired up. He's saying,
you love it. He's saying it's a popularity contest.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
Well, it is for the sweeth holders and box holders.
I mean it is a popularity cause that's why Chad
Johnson will eventually get in. Well though he should. He's
one of the old time leading receivers on this ball club.
But this is what I love to see, which would
put like some egg in the face of the Cincinnati Bengals.
I'd like to see Corey Dillon go to Canton, Ohio
and get into the Pro Football Hall of Fame and
not get into the Ring of Honor. How funny would

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that be?

Speaker 8 (45:11):
Right?

Speaker 4 (45:11):
I think you would rather be in the Pro Football
Hall rather than the Ring of Honor at the Bengals,
although I'm sure you would want the ring of the
Ring of Honor at the Bengals. But yeah, to what
I was saying, he think he thinks that this is
more of a popularity contest. It shouldn't be about how
popular the player was. It should be more about the stats.
And that's his argument. I agree with him.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
I can't.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
You can't disagree about that, Dad.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
You know. But like we talked about, Natasha Straub, I'm
basically opening her mouth and saying America is trash. Very
difficult to compare what she said is to what Corey
Dillon saying. But sometimes you got to bite your tongue. Yeah,
sometimes you gotta bite your tongue, because he said Corey
Dylon quoting now, he said, he said it was garbage
and the selection should be done directly by the front
office or a special committee. You could have done that

(45:55):
in a kind of a kinder and more gentler tone
than saying it was garbage. And maybe he shouldn't even
gone public with it. Maybe just go go to Mike Brown,
the president of the Cincinnati Bengals, and say, look, you know,
I'm concerned about the voting process. I'd like to get in.
I'd like to be part of the Ring of Honor.
I mean, I just I think there's a way to
do things. You know, some people come after others with

(46:18):
a sledgehammer, and some people come after others with soap
and water and sugar bar, you know the case of sugar.
There's a way to do it. And I don't think
Corey did do it, did it the right way. You know,
he was a second round pick. Of ninety seven. Played
for the Bengals for seven years. He made it to
three pole Pro Bowls. Rush forget this, he rushed for
at least a thousand yards in everyone but his final

(46:39):
season with the Cincinnati Bengals, which was the franchise his
first year on the Marvin Lewis and they traded him
to the New England Patriots for a second round pick.
All right, and then obviously he won the Super Bowl
with them. In his first season with the Patriots, he
went over one thousand yards again, named it the Pro
Bowl again, and as I mentioned, helped New England win
the Super Bowl against the Philadelphia Eagles. How do you
like that? As a matter of fact, he had that

(47:01):
go ahead touchdown in the last quarter in that game
to help them beat the Eagles. So you know, he
has all the credentials to get into the Ring of Honor,
except the way he went about it, that's his problem.

Speaker 4 (47:11):
Well, I think Dylan is just doing what Dylan does,
and he's he's a little outlandish, right, I mean, and
we've seen this happen. Rather Flip Berger's than play for
the Bengals, And I'm gonna throw my pads into the
stands I think this is just the way that Corey
Dillon communicates. I hate to say that, but honestly, right,
this is just the way that he communicates. I mean,

(47:33):
my gosh, I'm reading this articles and he's dropping you know,
f bombs and all that kind of stuff, and they're
writing it. But I think that's just the way he is.
You know, you can't fault the guy for it, but
he makes a valid point.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
He certainly does. He's only realized one thing, this Ring
of Honor, which has been going on and on and
on in Denver with the Broncos, they've had a eons.
The Bengals didn't start until twenty twenty one, so obviously
there's a tremendous backlog of players to get into the
Ring of Honor. Right now, they only have six members
in group. The team found that Paul Brown, Mike Brown's
dad who founded the Cincinnti Bengals, He's in there, Paul Brown,

(48:06):
quarterback Ken Anderson, cornerback Ken Riley, who should be in Canton, Ohio,
offensive tackle on Anthony Munio's wide receive Isaac Curtis, and
offensive tackle Willie Anderson. So basically, and Riley's passed on.
So they got a backlog of receivers and quarterbacks and
other players who should be in there. So I think
Corey will definitely get in. But man, I mean, come

(48:28):
at it like not like what a mac trump. Yeah,
take it easy.

Speaker 4 (48:31):
Yeah, Well, like I said, we've seen Dylan kind of
act like this before. You know, very Outlander's very outs
when he played too.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
Well, that's great. I know that's great. But he has
an opinion, and you know, if the Volture ever gets
on the list, I'm voting for Fulter.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Who he's got. Well, you can't you know the season
take it older?

Speaker 3 (48:48):
Yeah, shoot, son of a guy.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
You know what. And here's here's a quote of the
day from Corey Dillon's his quote. I'm pretty sure they'll
put effing John Kidner in there before they put me
in there. This is what he told the Athletic matter
of fact, Scott Mitchell. I forgot Scott Mitchell, even quarterback
to Bengals. Scott Mitchell will end up in that and
then for it before I do. I mean, it's not mean.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
Yeah, And I.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
Don't think you know, it's funny. I don't think athletes
and maybe I'm mistaken here. I don't think athletes really
play to get into Hall of Fames or Rings of Honor.
They play to win, and they play to make a
lot of money. You know, if they get into a
Hall of Fame or Ring of Honor, that's just gravy.
It's icing on the cake, cherry on the cake, whatever
it may be. So I don't think Corey Dylon really

(49:34):
and truly is dying to get into the Ring of Honor.
He just is seeing others who are getting in, he thinks,
and he should be there before then. And I agree
with him, so I do.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
This is the second year that the Bengals are doing this.
He didn't get in the first year.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
And he's not going to it because, as I said,
as a backlog, I mean, he'll eventually get in. They're
gonna put three tops a year.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
Yeah, Dad, that's actually that's pretty interesting, and it.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
Is a prulary contest. Was Chris Collinsworth, who who is
not a leader in receiving, but up there he'll get
in before Corey Dillon because of his popularity, his visibility
on TV. So Chris will get in, there's no doubt.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
Yeah, It's it's funny that you say that because you
hit it on the nail. Athletes they play to win.
They play to win champions, they play to win games.
And you know, money's a nice little Money's a nice
little thing that they get. No doubt, right, I don't
think they're playing. I mean, well, I can see them
playing to try to get into the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 4 (50:30):
I mean that's every player's ambition, right.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
But look, but he's kind of.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
He's kind of pushing, like he's like he's doing it
a little aggressive.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
I think there's no doubt. But look, there are certain
athletes that get draft that I think that they know
when they're drafted, they're happy to be there. They're lucky
to be there. But there's no way on God's green
earth they'll ever be in the Hall of Fame. Really. Yeah,
there's one guy and I love him to death. Luke Maley,
the catcher of the Cincinnati Reds. I really do. I
like the Melee family and greater Cincinnati. Luke will never

(51:00):
be in the Hall of Fame. I love and he
knows that he's happy to be where he's at. He's
a local kid. He went to high school in northern Kentucky,
covering the Catholic and to play on your hometown baseball
team in Cincinnati. That to me is worth like a
Hall of Fame thing. That's so athletes know that they're
gonna get their look. If athletes didn't play to earn money,

(51:21):
they were that free agency. You know, look what's going
on right now. These athletes jumping from teammate to team
B Why for money? They may have a better chance
of winning where they were. That guy Brown who played
for the Denver Nuggets they won this year. He jumped
for forty five million to go to the Indiana Pacers. Right,
They're not gonna win anything, but he went because it's money.
So they played for two things. They played for themselves

(51:42):
and I guess they played for a for themselves, be
for themselves again. For money, that's what they do. Winning
is something he would be nice to have, But I'd
rather get the money. That's what they do.

Speaker 4 (51:51):
Yeah, you make a really good point. Now you're switching
my view. I don't know if I want Dylan in
the Ring of Hall or with the Ring of Honor. Yeah,
Ring of Honor, I don't. I don't think I want
him in there. He's pushing it too hard. Dad time
won't come, No doubt he deserves to be in there,
but his time will come. Don't put that kind of
pressure on an organization like that, and don't be outlandish

(52:13):
like that.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
It kind of puts a bad picture on yourself. Just
like you said, he had an amazing career with the
Bengals and then he's doing something that ruins that tarnishes
his legacy.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
You bring up another point, though, you know, does that matter? Okay,
when you have a ring of honor or a hall
of fame, is it's just statistics and the way you
played the game that opens up the door for you
or does account everything when your personality and how you act.
I don't think it should. I think that if you
have the stats, you open the door and get in. Okay,

(52:47):
I think Pete Row should be in the Hall of Fame.
Forty two to fifty six career hits no one, No
one will ever get those hits again. Why no one's
gonna play that long? You know you're gonna make so
much money. You play eight, nine, ten years, that's it.
Pee played twenty plus years. But he played for forty
two hundred plus hits and what he did off the field,
who cares?

Speaker 1 (53:05):
You know?

Speaker 2 (53:05):
He played the game played it the right way, had
some incidents off the field. Whatever. Look Bob Huggins right now,
he's in the Basketball Hall of Fame. You know, got
some tarnish on his name, but he's still in the
Basketball Hall of Fame. Rick Betino's in all right. He
had some tarnished in Louisville, right, But man, maybe they
should put these guys in after they die. Now, I
don't know. I mean, I don't know the answer, but

(53:28):
I do know this. You deserve to get into a
Hall of Fame based on the way you played your sports.

Speaker 4 (53:34):
Well you said it before. It's a little bit of
a popularity contest. Chad Johnson, he had good stats, right,
but people love to watch him on the field.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
People love this personality game. I mean, yeah, he'll get in,
but you know he's not.

Speaker 4 (53:48):
He wasn't the best receiver though we had right the
stat wise right close to so, so that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
So, like, you know, he didn't really tarnish his reputation.
His reputation, right, but you know, what are you doing?
It's kind of well, I don't know, man, he's.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
Any badmouth management that was bad.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
I can't do that.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
Yeah, but still the stats.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
But I still think I'll get in, No doubt that
I think he'll get in. But what he's doing right now,
it's it's not painting in a pretty picture for himself.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
What you're saying, all right, he's Alex Ferman I for
Jeff Schwartz. Get him on threads underscore A L E
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Speaker 3 (54:23):
Oh yeah, I'm gonna follow at the follower? Is that right?

Speaker 4 (54:26):
Oh yeah, Dad, Maybe I should join threads. I'll make
you appro I'll make you a little account.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Maybe I'll get them. You know what, people spend half
their day on social media.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
You gotta do work.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
You can spend your half your day Instagram, social media,
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Speaker 3 (54:37):
Whatever it is. That's how I get all my information.

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Speaker 2 (55:45):
He's labeled a backup, and there's good reason. We'll tell
you in just about a minute who he is. All right,
he is Alex Ferman. I'm Andy Fermanize if Jeff Schwartz
and we talk about sports and sports upron of funny,
they really are because players are placed in various groups
and sports. There's starting pitchers, there's relievers, there's bench players,

(56:07):
the backups. Okay, you could be labeled as some sort
of a player. I wouldn't know, because again I didn't
play the game right. You would know about that.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
But you know the game well enough that you're playing
the game.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
But when you played, and I'm sure you were on
various teams and you scratched your head and say, why
did this coach put this kid on the B team
when he should be starting. You've see that all the time.
And sometimes its attitude, sometimes his practice skills. He's not
practicing hut and if it comes late. There's various reasons.
You know that. Okay, they are One such player who
thinks he should be a starter at least this year

(56:40):
is Carolina quarterback and the Dalton who played here in
Cincinnati with the Bengals. Let's take a look. You started
last year fourteen games for the Saints, and the Saints
obviously weren't happy with him. They wanted an upgrade, so
they signed Derek Carr's a free agent. Okay, Carolina Panthers
signed at Dalton. That was before the draft. And guess what.
The Panthers took the number one pick. They drafted Bryce Young.
So maybe Dalton thought he's gonna start over with the rookie.

(57:03):
That ain't happening. You drafted the number one guy. He
ain't happening. And sorry he stepped in poop twice he did.
Ain't gonna happen, you know.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
And he thinks he's a starter, right, yeah, yeah, he
thinks he's a start. He thinks you should be starting
over young. Here's the thing, this, this is my opinion
after reading this, you know, there's a time in every
every athlete's life where they are simply not the best anymore. Now.
I'm not saying that Andy Dalton was the best quarterback
in the world, but he was a good quarterback here
in the Bengals.

Speaker 4 (57:32):
He was a good quarterback back when he played college
for TCU, but not anymore. Right, And he's not a
top tier quarter not a top tier He was like
a safe quarterback, which is why one of the reasons
why I think the Bengals drafted them out of TCU.

Speaker 3 (57:48):
And maybe they liked his his mechanics. Maybe he's a
smart ballplayer, maybe he had really good game knowledge, which
is what you want out of a quarterback. But you know,
let's think bigger picture here, dad, Right, Okay, at this time,
Andy needs to think how else can I help my

(58:09):
team to win? That should be his mentality. He knows
that Young's gonna start. What can he do to still
help his team win and still participate in team practices
or even participate on the team, right, be a mentor
to Young?

Speaker 2 (58:27):
That's the game, Okay. I understand what you're saying. In
the perfect world, that will be a great situation. But
I think that's more of a coaches jot to get
him to do that, because when he comes out and says,
I view myself as a starter, I don't think there
were thirty two guys better than me. Really, I mean
that's ridiculous. Almost got to get him in the room
and smack him around a little bit. Yeah, First of all,

(58:47):
he's not a kid anymore. Was he thirty five? I mean,
his best days were behind him, and his best days
weren't that good. He took the Bengals to five straight playoffs,
big whoopie do? Okay, never got passed the first round.
All right. He's an adam adequate quarterback, functionable quarterback, okay,
and he needs tremendous personnel around him to be a
great quarterback, which you'll never be. Bryce Young's the future.

(59:09):
He's not gonna play. That's it you now. Since twenty sixteen,
Dalton has a record of thirty three fifty one to
one and eighty five starts for the Bengals, Cowboys, Bears,
and Saints. Now, I don't think it's fair to judge
a quarterback on a one lost record, but look, that's
that's what it is. His completion percentage over that period
of time is below sixty three percent, not good, and

(59:31):
just a one point seven touchdown to interception ratio one
hundred and twenty touchdowns seventy one i iNTS. And you
can't blame one team because he played during that period
of time Cincinnati, Dallas, Chicago, and New Orleans. So his days,
he's lucky.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
He's in the league. That's true, collecting a good freaking
chet's day. Come on, that's true. That's true.

Speaker 4 (59:51):
And so going back, you know, put your pride aside, right,
mentor the young guys, share your n with young and
build up your next quarterback. That's his role now, and
I think, honestly, I think that's what Carolina's vision was
is when they picked them up, they knew that they
were going to get young in the first round.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
In case young fault is early on Panics and we've
got a good backup of a professional guy who's been there,
done that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
There's going to be opportunities for him to play, and
in those opportunities, that's when he'll shine in those moments,
but also shine in the moments when you're mentoring, shine
in the moments when you're not on the field, when
you're not in the spotlight. That's Andy's position now, and
he just needs to recognize that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
The fact that he's the fact that he's coming out
saying he's.

Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
Better than thirty two other quarterbacks, that's ridiculous. He was
never better than any thirty two quarterbacks any year that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
He was in the league.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
Thank you. Look, he had a nice career. He's made
a lot of money, you know, Thank goodness. He never
really got injured heavily, you know, a couple of arm
injuries and then whatever it may be. But you know,
move on and move on with your life. That's it.
I mean, you're not better than thirty two others. I mean,
I guess he though going to Carolina. They had some
quarterback problems prior to him there, but they got him

(01:01:10):
right before the draft. And then when they do Bingo,
Bryce Young forget it. You know, all the air lettle
out of his balloon. I understand what he's saying, but
you know, with that kind of an attitude, I don't
see him mentoring Bryce Young. I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:01:23):
Well, I think hopefully the coaching staff like puts a
little bug in his ear and says, hey, look, this
is this is your your position here on the team. Now, Okay,
you're going to be a great backup quarterback. We're going
to utilize you, Andy, but at this moment, we need
you to build up the young players. We need you
to share the game knowledge of playing in the NFL

(01:01:45):
to playing on this platform.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
We need you to do that for it. I don't
to play like Andy Dallon, No.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
No, I don't. I really. Let me give you some
background here. Obviously, he took the Bengals to five straight
playoff appearances, but he went oh and four playoff starts.
He missed a fifth playoff game with the ad injury.
He threw one touchdown in those four games, and guess what,
he had six eighth deceptions. The team reached the playoffs
just twice in the twenty year per years prior to

(01:02:13):
Dalton's arrival in Cincinnati, so that was a plus. Okay,
so the playoff appearance is. That's a nice change for Cincinnati,
but the playoff losses mounted big, and big and big.
He hasn't started in an NFL playoff game since twenty fourteen,
all right, he hasn't led a winning team since twenty fifteen.
But he still believes he's worthy of being a starting

(01:02:33):
quarterback in the NFL. I don't think so, I don't
think and I don't dislike him. He's done a lot
of charity work. He's done a lot of great things.
He really has. He is a good kind of starter.

Speaker 4 (01:02:42):
He's a great quarterback for your organization. He really is,
and he has good he's smart in the game, but
he's he's not a starting quarterback and not anymore at
least right and now. He just needs to recognize in
this position and his time in playing. He just needs
to mentor the young guys. If you don't like it
I'm doing to you, Yes, exactly, you're a mentor of.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Some people think you're mentoring me.

Speaker 3 (01:03:06):
But if nothing going to commentating, I think you'd be
a great commentator, sports analyst. You know, you don't think so.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
You wouldn't look on TV. You know why he's got
red hair. I just it just it doesn't go well,
it's just getting red Beard now. I mean, come on,
and he really it doesn't go well.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
No, I think that's his position now, and he just
needs to recognize.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
He's he is a good guy, but he's not What
about he's not starting face music. We move on, Alex
firm and Alex said, for Jeff Schwartz, I'm Andy Firman.
By the way, the NFL is pointing the finger at
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Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
I guess.

Speaker 6 (01:03:51):
The talk of the town, at least over there in Cincinnati,
I'm sure has to be La de la Cruz. I mean,
he's had one of the best starts to a career
I can remember in a while. And on Saturday he
had quite an accomplishment, quite an impressive feet high.

Speaker 7 (01:04:07):
Light kick coming to the plate, He'll steel third base
Ellie Dayla Cruz will without even a throw the third baseman,
Brian Brian Anderson didn't even go.

Speaker 3 (01:04:16):
That was trving home.

Speaker 6 (01:04:17):
Turn you sick that's the Reds Radio network with the
call Ellie Day La Cruz stealing three straight bases in
the seventh inning on just two pitches, including stealing home
right there. As Cincinnati now leads the n L Central
by two games. They did that by beating the Brewers
eight to five. There was a no hitter thrown on Saturday.

(01:04:38):
It wasn't one pitcher, was a combined no no by
the Tigers as they blanked the Blue Jays two nothing,
Matt Manning going six and two thirds of those innings,
and funny enough, he didn't even know that he had
a no hitter going when he was pulled. Yankee's beat
the Cubs six to three, Gara Cole nine to two.
Now on the season, Red Sox beat the Athletics ten
and three, as Oakland now a dreadful twenty five and

(01:05:00):
sixty six this season. In the AL Central, it's Cleveland
seizing the league. They beat the Royals ten to six,
and that's because the Twins fell six to two to
the Oriols, so they swapped spots into the AL Central
Division standings. Out West, it's the Dodgers pounding the Angels
ten to five. They take all four games in the
Freeway Series this year. The Diamondbacks beat the Pirates three

(01:05:23):
to two, so they maintained their half game lead in
the National League West. In the NBA, they announced their
new format for the end season tournament on Saturday. It's
going to take place mostly in November. Group play. It'll
be three groups of five teams each three each in
the Western and Eastern conferences. They'll have the semi finals
and finals in early December in Las Vegas. The grand

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prize each player on the winning team will get five
hundred thousand dollars. Greg Popovich is getting a five year
extensional take him through his age seventy ninth season in
the College ranks. A lawyer for West Virginia coach Bob
Huggins sending a letter to the school saying Huggins never
resigned after last month's Duy arrest and that he expects

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to have his job back. In soccer, Megan Rapino will
retire after this year. And on Sunday, it's the US
women's national team getting their final tune up before they
head off to the World Cup. As for the men,
they'll be playing Canada in the Gold Cup quarterfinal later
this evening. And at Wimbledon on Saturday, it's top seed
to Carlos Acarez winning. Novak Djokovic plays later today.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Back to you guys, older, keV, hold it, do you
know this, Stut, here's a stat for you. The Cincinnati
Reds right now with fifty wins. You know, they're only
twelve wins shy from their total win total from a
year ago. Is that amazing?

Speaker 6 (01:06:43):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Twelve?

Speaker 3 (01:06:44):
We can't remember that big of a turnaround at least
in a while.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
I know they won sixty two games last year. They
got fifty wins ready now.

Speaker 6 (01:06:50):
I'm sure their season total bat probably are almost already hit.
I think the over on that was sixty five. I think, well, yeah,
think they got a couple more weeks to go for that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
There we go, thanks, keV. In an hour, All right, now,
this story won't die. And that's right around the corner
because here's Alex Ferman and for Jeff Schwartz, who got
bon and barrel betting coming up about seven eight minutes
from now, and we talked about the NFL and their
PR machine, the soap upper storylines that keep the league
always in the news. There's always NFL news, and there's
another story the NFL that was claiming that the Kansas

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City Chiefs and the Philadelphia Eagles they wore the wrong
cleats for the Super Bowl. Why they say that because
river the field condition the controversy. Obviously it's not over
the slippery conditions. The owners have been asking the league
why the heck was the plane surface so slippery? And
the NFL blamed the players on both teams. You know
the field conditions. You know about that players can wear sneakers,

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they could wear longer, shorter studs on their on their spikes.
The Eagles pass rush to us on Reddit. He called
the field the worst surface that he ever played on.
And players right now they all want grass surfaces because
you know it's safe where they say it gives it
a little more for the knees. So, you know, to me,
blaming blaming the Eagles and the Chiefs, I mean to

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me that that's terrible. First of all, both teams played
in Arizona a year ago. They knew what the field
was like, so obviously you can't blame them. This whole
thing is a mess, But again, it keeps the NFL
in the news.

Speaker 4 (01:08:14):
Yeah, for those who don't know the home field, the
Arizona Cardinals is unique in that the grass is in
a giant rolling track and every day the entire field
is rolled outside of the retractable roof stadium, yes, where
it can be underneath the Arizona sun, and then it
can be rolled inside back inside on Chilean and Knights. Now,

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I'm gonna bring up the name George Tama. He's also
known as the Sodfather. Ninety four years old. He worked
for every Super Bowl that there was and he's a
longtime groundskeeper. Now, his comment was that the field was
overwatered in the day's lean to the game.

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
That's right, it was overwatered. The field should have been
left outside in the Arizona sun to dry out, but
that never happened. They watered it on a Wednesday in
preparation for the game. They watered it. They rolled it
right back into the stadium, and you know they're preparing
the stadium for the game, so they got tarps out
on it and everything else like that. The water the

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grass never had a chance to dry up.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
So it wasn't really fair that the NFL is saying
it was a teams problem. It was the groundskeeper's problem.

Speaker 3 (01:09:21):
It was the grounds keeper problem.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
Okay, and the teams obviously they were slipping and sliding
all over the field in the first half. Now reports
have come out they say that several Eagle players actually
did change their cleats at halftime, so they knew, but
it didn't help. If the new cleats had just as
been as the old cleats, that I would see it
to point out that the field was the primary reason
for the slipping, and you can claim that it is.
So now we find that out, But why do we

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find that out in July when the Super Bowl was
in February. Why do we find that out now?

Speaker 3 (01:09:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:09:49):
I can't wrap my hand around it. Because the field
didn't have time to dry out enough.

Speaker 3 (01:09:54):
It caused the turf get this to have a funky
odor to it, and then.

Speaker 4 (01:09:59):
Whether and then eventually the field is started to rot
and de kay underneath the player's.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
Feet as they're playing the game.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
Yes, amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:10:08):
Now you got to think about you know, this has
been a notorious field because they've had similar issues. I know,
because they play bowl game or bowl games there, college
bowl games there, high school games there and having a
bad field condition. And I'm not talking about if it's
downpour and rain and the field's muddy.

Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
Right, there's nothing that anyone can do about that situation.

Speaker 4 (01:10:31):
But the fact that the field is inside a dome,
it's controlled, right, they have control of the condition of
the field. Right, And in a bad field conditioned players
they can't make cuts. And I bring this up because
of the magnitude of the game, right, you're playing the

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Super Bowl. You want to be able to do what
you can do, the running back making cuts, wide receivers
making cuts on the fieldieldrun and running backs, right, that's it.
So you want to be able to do that. But
in bad field conditions, when you know that they have
the ability to make the best field conditions, can they
possibly can't. You can't plant your foot which could go

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which won it could cause a big, a big outcome
in the game.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
Right, Well, if and if slides in the mudd and
your need goes one direction, then goes to the aco.

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
And then then that goes to my second point.

Speaker 4 (01:11:23):
Players can really get hurt on a bad condition on
the field, and especially when something that you have control.

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
But going back to my first point, if they if
they're not able to make a normal cut that they
were able to make say on a on a turf
field or even a field at home. Right, if they're
not able to do that, that has a huge effect
on the outcome of the game.

Speaker 4 (01:11:45):
Sure, right, because we know that some running backs can
make a cut and go for a forty forty yard
run to the end zone and it turns the tide
of the entire game. Right, So it's a huge disadvantage
to who's ever playing offense, and it's a huge disadvantage
to all the players on the on the field because
the risk of gain.

Speaker 3 (01:12:04):
Hurt is higher than normally than what they're normally make.

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
An interesting point because when if I'm an owner of
a team and I'm investing big time money for these athletes,
world class athletes, and the last thing I want to
do is pay them and see them get hurt. I
want to make sure they're playing on the best conditions
they possibly can. Why do I bring this up? I'm
thinking of Pittsburgh for some reason. Why because in the
stadium they play at Pittsburgh used to be three rivers
and they changed an ten ten million times. They have

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like two to three high school games there on Saturday,
all right, they're chewing up the field. University of Pittsburgh.
The Panthers they play there on Saturday, and then the
NFL is going to play there on Sunday after the
field is all chewed up. It's not right. If I'm
an owner, I don't want that. And maybe that's why
they want the the not the natural grass. They want
the the artificial official so it doesn't get chopped up.

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But that's not good for the knees. Okay, because grass
they do claim gives and that's the problem. And they
like the artificial Why because not only do they use
the stadiums for for football, these are for concerts and
other situations. So this we have to keep on replanting.
Saves the money, I get it. Yeah, But if you're
paying these guys big money, you want to see that safe.
That's the key.

Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
Get this.

Speaker 4 (01:13:11):
This George Toma guy, the end of the Sofather, the Sodfather.
The NFL field director Ed Manigan was under George Tama
really at one point. So he learned everything that Georges knows.
And George told him the field is in bad condition
and then listen to him amazing, unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (01:13:30):
How about that?

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
The bottom line is, well, we won't see a Super
Bowl in Arizona for a while.

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
No, not until they changed the field condition.

Speaker 4 (01:13:36):
And I think, honestly, the NFL, don't blame it on
the coaches, don't blame it on the organization, don't play it,
blame it on the players or even the cleats. The
NFL really really needs to investigate.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
Then they do need.

Speaker 4 (01:13:49):
To take but they won't, you know they won't, but
they need to take ownership because honestly, they're putting players
in their careers in danger.

Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
You're right, you know, I'm surprised when you think about that.
Why a player has not yet had a lawsuit against
the league for a bad field condition if he has
a season ending or career ending injury to prove it? Well,
I mean, can you prove that? Well? Now, I guess
you could say with the sod fall, they could say, well,
they didn't they wanted it too much, which created a
situation which I slipped on my my a cl went out.

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I guess you.

Speaker 3 (01:14:20):
Could well say it's a close game, say there were
say it was by three points, right, the kicker slips,
falls and it's a bad field goal and that's the
end of the game.

Speaker 8 (01:14:29):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
How do you how you could he justify, you know,
losing a Super Bowl game on a bad field. Whose
fault is that if you couldn't get a normal grip
or normal tracks that he normally would. But they'll say, oh,
that's all part of the game. No no, no, no, no,
no no no no, not on the Super Bowl, alright,
not in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
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Speaker 3 (01:15:31):
Put funny to sleep people, get my money.

Speaker 6 (01:15:33):
I'll put your brain to sleep, betting.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
Yes, it is Alice Breman in for jeffs. You got
some pressure, but you're doing the picks for Jeff right now.
And he knows his stuff. He knows his stuff. He's
the man who knows this stuff as well. The big ee,
Ethan Millin. That's going on, Ethan, what's going on?

Speaker 8 (01:15:47):
I definitely know a lot about our first topic of
the day, Cricket World Cup qualifier. We got here Sri
Lanka versus Netherlands.

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
Huh even up? Uh? You know you've got a computer
here in front of the Alie. You could look up
like that's what Jeff does. He looks up this the
I'm gonna look up cricket. I don't even know what
that is. You can't even spell it. It's not a CA.

Speaker 8 (01:16:11):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
Every time I do this game, I know, I don't
know what the outcome is of the last time I
was on the show. It's better that way, Okay, you
can go first, give me Netherlands, real, give me Netherlands. Yeah,
why would you say that while you picking? Because I
can pronounce it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
Oh, I'll take Sri Lanka. Then I didn't even know
they had a team.

Speaker 8 (01:16:27):
Look at you guys, already at it? All right, let's
go to boxing.

Speaker 3 (01:16:30):
Why not? Right?

Speaker 8 (01:16:31):
Yes, like this sounds right. You just go by the
name and it sounds like that guy can box. All right,
let's go with this. Uh no, Ndo Donair versus Alexandro Santiago.

Speaker 3 (01:16:49):
Go to buro.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
Go ahead, you have a Guestea.

Speaker 3 (01:16:51):
Who's who has home court advantage? There's no home Give
me Santiago. That was fun.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
He does sound like a boxer, right, yeah, yeah, you
know what this guy? I mean? If you have your
name on the back of your little cape that you
wear as a boxer, how do you fit? No, Nino
d whatever it was on there. I'm gonna go just
out of curiosity.

Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
I'm going, yeah, sounds pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
It does? Is that? An oo?

Speaker 8 (01:17:15):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
So it's no any oh?

Speaker 3 (01:17:19):
Yeah, yeah about that? All right? Why not?

Speaker 8 (01:17:22):
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
Onto? Uh what have we got here? Uh? Darts? Back
to darts? Aren't really excited?

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
Do google darts if you want.

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:17:32):
So we got Michael Van Gerwin versus Girwin Price. So
we got last name Gerwin and got Girwin with the
first name.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
All right, you're up.

Speaker 4 (01:17:43):
Uh, you know this is this is my white sport.
She's the best at really or dark. Yeah, oh yeah,
it's like a hill secret. I phone her and she
ought to get me. She probably does. She probably follows
a text. Yeah, I'm gonna go with price.

Speaker 3 (01:17:58):
Really give me.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
I'm going with and I'll tell you why. Anybody who
has like the van in there. I mean it's kind
of like a higher class of individuals, a little more money,
probably was raised with darts. Yeah, I'm just thinking that way.

Speaker 3 (01:18:11):
You maybe maybe play dark prep school or something like that. Yeah, yeah, alright,
I see it, Yeah, I see it.

Speaker 8 (01:18:17):
Okay, On to rugby Rugby really exciting here lead the
Leads Rhinos versus Southford Red Devils.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
The who Red Devils?

Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
Southford?

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
Who is that at?

Speaker 8 (01:18:31):
Don't I'm assuming this is like Premier League rugby maybe so.

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
Uh, you're up.

Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
There's home court advantage on this one, right, Yeah, we
don't know what the game is Southford Southford? Yeah yeah,
give me Southford. I'll take home court advantage. The Red
Devils yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
Yeah, you know what. I like the Rhinos. They just
they're intimidating, you know what. I mean, you go on
the field and you see the jersey with a picture
of a rhino. It's intimidation. The only sports is intimidating.

Speaker 3 (01:18:59):
The only rhino I know is at the Cincinnati Zoo,
and every time I go visit it, the rhinos sleeping.
Not very intimidating.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
It's not on a shirt. That's why it's on a shirt.
You're playing against them. It's different. Really, give you see
the rhinos teeth and that big teeth, the mouths always closed.

Speaker 3 (01:19:17):
We got one more, we got one more?

Speaker 8 (01:19:18):
Okay, table tennis. It's gonna be ying Chang Sun versus
Ming Chen.

Speaker 2 (01:19:26):
They probably related.

Speaker 3 (01:19:29):
Brothers.

Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
Uh, who do you go?

Speaker 3 (01:19:31):
Give me? Ming Chang Chen Chin.

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
I'll go with the Sun. I'll go with the young son.

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
You you have it, There, you have it. I'll let
you guys now next week.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
There we go. Hey, could he really be the very best?
We're gonna tell you next right here on Fox. All right,
the numbers don't lie. That's coming right up. Welcome everybody,
Fox Sports Sunday. He's Alex Fermanent for Jeff Schwartz, I
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talked about what is a sport, what it's an athlete?
And after two hours of talking here have you changed
your mind as to what a sport is? We highlighted
I guess if you want to call it highlighting Joey
George Chestnut, who down sixty two hot dogs and buns
on the July fourth Nathan's hot dog getting contest. He
wins that for the sixteenth time. Is he an athlete?

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In your mind? We kind of both agreed that he is. Yeah, okay,
But is hot dog eating a sport? I guess no,
I don't think. I don't think it's it's an activity.
It's it's an event.

Speaker 3 (01:20:51):
It's a disgusting activity, disgusting event. Who the heck ever
came up with that idea? Honestly, well, I'll give that
that's it's a great promote for Nathan and I love. Yeah,
he's making a living out of that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
All right, So have you changed your mind or anything
as far as athletes are sports?

Speaker 3 (01:21:10):
The first two one, you know, I I understand why
you would say that if you can hold a beer
in your hand, it's not considered a sport.

Speaker 4 (01:21:18):
I can't understand that that that ought to be an activity.
I still think that synchronized swimming is a sport, even
though that you don't think it is.

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
And you can't hold a beer in the pool.

Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
No, you can't hold the bear.

Speaker 4 (01:21:28):
Yeah, but you gotta think that they're honestly athletes. I
can't imagine how big they're legs. What about ballroom dancing?
That's an Olympic sport?

Speaker 3 (01:21:35):
Now, that's an Olympic sport.

Speaker 10 (01:21:37):
Yes, who's making these decisions? People who can't. It's the
people who can't perform normal sports. They create these games
for the chess. Chess is a game.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
It's an Olympic sports Chess.

Speaker 3 (01:21:52):
That's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:21:53):
That's not a sport.

Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
There there's no physical exertion that you have to go
through in order to move upon.

Speaker 2 (01:22:02):
Think about mind, I said, if you hold the beer.
It's not a sport like cornhole. Okay, if you don't Schwitz,
it's not a sport. If you don't let you don't
know that term sweating, Yeah, okay, if you don't Schwitz,
it's not a sport. Well, then I guess a jockey, Ryan.

Speaker 3 (01:22:16):
Horse not the horse does the horse does?

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
Let's move on. Now we talk about the goat of
all coaches. When you hear about the goat the greatest
of all time, I guess one name pops up. That's
Bill Belichick, right, he may pop up in all sports.
Think about that, really, I mean know, Greg Popovich. I
just heard cave at the top of the hour that
Papovich got a five year extension. It's gonna be coaching
until he seventy nine. I had. Unless you, unless you

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really study the NBA, you don't realize he's the old
time winning this coach in the NBA, Greg Popovitch. Okay,
But like one name pops up in all the sports,
Bill Belichick. You know, if he coaches two more years,
he could break the record for the most wins by
a coach in NFL history, which is tremendous. Okay, but
this is another situation. He could also break another record,

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the most losses by a coach. Okay, you have a
list over here in front of you about how many
losses Belichick has and how many was like thirteen losses
away from that title of the old time loser.

Speaker 4 (01:23:16):
Yeah, yeah, let's see here, one hundred and fifty two
losses which he has, yeah, which he has two hundred
and ninety eight wins, which he has no ties actually,
which surprises me because all the other people here have ties.
But yeah, two hundred and ninety eight wins, that's pretty
good for a coach that's been in the league for
this long.

Speaker 2 (01:23:34):
Right, So who has the most losses right now? On
the current list.

Speaker 4 (01:23:38):
The most loss is it's a tie between Jeff Fisher
and Dan Reeves one hundred and sixty five losses.

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
So basically Belichick is thirteen losses away. So I don't
think he'll get it this year. Hopefully he does it.
I'm a big Fog fan. Yeah, I'm a Belichick fan.
Maybe if he coaches two more years, he'll get that.
So we'll see what happens. So we have that thirteen
losses away from tying Dan Reeves and Jeff Fish. Now
the all time win list has Don Shula, the late
Don Shula coach of the Dolphins, with three hundred and
twenty eight wins. George hallis three hundred and eighteen, and

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as you mentioned, Belichick has two ninety eight. But here's
the wrinkle in the whole situation. Former NFL quarterback Michael Vick,
who happened to have played in Philadelphia for Andy Reid,
who is now the Kansas City Chiefs coach. He says,
Andy Reid is the goat. All right, let's talk about
this for a second. Belichick has six Super Bowls. Do

(01:24:27):
you have to win a championship to be considered the best?
I say, in today's world, you do. If you don't
win a ring, you're not going to the Hall of Fame.
That's basically what it's all about, right.

Speaker 3 (01:24:38):
You know, no, And I'm gonna answer your question, And
I got a follow up question here for you, all right,
So I don't think you have to have six rings
or even a ring to be considered a great coach.

Speaker 4 (01:24:50):
Now, of course Andy Reid has gotten a few rings,
but he's one in Philadelphia's one in Kansas City.

Speaker 3 (01:24:54):
Yes, but what makes a great coach is really what
they're able to do for the program. Think about that
turning around a program. I don't think you have to
be a great coach to have champions chips to consider
to be a great coach. Take a look at Zach
Taylor for an example. I think he's a great coach.

Speaker 4 (01:25:13):
He is someone who was able to flip an organization
on its head and turn it around. And that's a
great coach. Look what he was able to do for
the Cincinnati Bengals.

Speaker 2 (01:25:22):
Okay, but let's back up, let's put the brakes on
this for a second. First of all, I don't think
Zach Taylor's track record is worthy of any comparison to
anybody else. When he retires, if he coaches five, six,
seven more years, then we'll discuss Zach Taylor's record. Okay, Yeah,
he got a Joe Burrow and basically Joe Burrow has
taking Zach Taylor's you know, coaching legacy to another level. Okay,

(01:25:46):
as maybe Bill Belichick with Tom Brady, all right, but
who knows, Maybe another coach wouldn't have won with Tom Brady.
Maybe we don't know. Remember one thing, Yes, Tom Brady
helped Bill Belichick at six Super Bowls, but the personnel surrounding.
You know how many Hall of Fame receivers that Brady
have maybe won one? Right, think about that. So he

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didn't have the great personnel. They won with Brady, but
they wont a great defense too because of Belichick.

Speaker 3 (01:26:12):
That was gonna be my question.

Speaker 4 (01:26:13):
So do you think that Belichick would have gotten to
six Super Bowls had he not have Brady?

Speaker 2 (01:26:19):
So well, the Belichick haters will come out and tell you, well,
he coached in Cleveland with the Browns and he lost. Okay,
so he came to New England and he got Brady
and he won. Yeah, Brady made a difference. But I
think this guy is a tremendous football mind. Okay. You
know Vince Lombardi, may he rest in peace, was a
great coach. He coached in Green Bay even when he
was ill on his near deathbed, and he went over

(01:26:42):
to coach to Washington Redskins. They were the Redskins back then.
He won, He won in Washington. He was a great coach.
There are some people who have a DNA in their
system that can win no matter where they go, they
can win. And there are some coaches that bounce around
and they can't. I mean, some coaches can win regardless
of the person they could win. And I'll tell you
this much, I think Andy Reads one of them. Didn't

(01:27:04):
have tremendous personnel. Yeah he's got Patrick Mahomes now, but
he's winning. He's a great coach.

Speaker 4 (01:27:08):
Now, I would agree Andy Reid is a great coach.
What he was able to do in Philadelphia and then
now in Kansas City. I would agree with Michael Vick
that he's a goat. He's one of the greatest coaches.

Speaker 3 (01:27:19):
Ever. What about I'm gonna throw you a curveball here,
Paul Brown.

Speaker 2 (01:27:24):
You know, that's a great question because I think the
Cincinnati Bengals, who have formed in nineteen sixty eight, they
were the fastest expansion team to make the playoffs. Ever,
that he had some great players. He had to lake
Greg Cook, who was a quarterback there, who took them
to the playoffs, and who know how great they could
have been if Greg Cook didn't get hurt. You know,
he was playing the Kansas City Chiefs at the time,

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and I think someone rolled on his shoulder and he
never really came back and was the same. Yeah, you know,
if that happened today, he'd be back playing in three weeks. Yeah,
you know, medicine has just changed so much since that
point in time. But he was a great coach, a
great visionary, and it brought a lot of things to
the game of football, like the helmet, you know, plays
from the bench, things like that. A lot of things

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that he developed in the game of football that has
used today. So Paul Brown was an innovator as well
as a great coach.

Speaker 4 (01:28:13):
So he's considered a great coach, but he's never won
the Super Bowl. Ran seven championships, four in the aaf
C and then three in the NFL, but never actually
won a Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
Ok but one of the greatest coaches. Okay, but give
him a break. He coached back in the All American Conference,
you know, with tremendous players in Cleveland. They didn't have
a Super Bowl. But he went every year. He really
he went. He had the great Jim Brown, He had
great players over there. So you know, you can't knock him.
He was a winner and he always wasn't winner. But

(01:28:46):
you know, again in today's in today's sports, with pressure,
with social media and the way the media is set up,
if you don't win, you ain't going anywhere. You're not
going through the Hall of Fame. And that's a shame.
I mean, because I'm going back and I'm gonna date
myself and look at great players back even the sport
of baseball, like a guy like Ernie Banks who won
the MVP for the Chicago Cubs and back to back

(01:29:09):
years when the Cubs finished last. That would never happen today.
That would never happen in this day and age. As
a matter of fact, Ernie Banks, who have went over
five hundred home runs in his career, may not have
even made the Hall of Fame because of the team
he played for. That's the way people judge athletes today.
That's the way they judge him.

Speaker 4 (01:29:24):
I'm gonna go back to your original question. Do you
have to win championships in order to be considered a
great coach?

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
I think it helps.

Speaker 3 (01:29:32):
I here's my answer. Here, here's there's there's There's gonna
be two views of this, right all right? The first
few yes, right, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:29:41):
The second view are gonna be players like Michael Vick
that says Andy Reid is one of the greatest coaches
ever because what he was able to do for the game,
do for the organization, and he's done that at multiple organizations,
He's done multiple.

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
Well, what gives Andy Reid some some some pus is
the fact that not only did he do it in Philadelphia,
he did it in Kansas City. See. And that's why
Michael someone can say, well, well if it played for him,
and that's what no, I agree, I mean, did play
for him. That helps. But the fact that Andy Reid
did it in two different places, that that seals the
deal for me.

Speaker 4 (01:30:17):
But there's a view that's that's us two guys behind
the mike, and we're looking at the number of championships
that he's won. Oh, he's the greatest coach. But then
there's the other view is the players that had interactions
with the coach, that played with the coach, that's gone
through games and gone through through the mud with the coach,
and they see a whole different side of this guy

(01:30:39):
that we don't see. We're only looking at numbers with
the guy or for the guy. But they're playing with
the guy, They're they're interacting with the guy. And there's
that view. So the answer, you have to have six championships.
You have to have championships in order can be considered
a great coach.

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
I'm with you on that. But you know what, I'll
another direction. I think that even if you have championships,
that may not even make you a great coach. And
I got to check this out. Maybe you could google
this for me. When I was growing up and I
love the New York Football Giants, that was my team
when they played at Yankee Stadium. They had a coach
by name of Ali Sherman, Al I. E. Sherman. He

(01:31:19):
won championships with them in sixty one, sixty two, sixty three.
I don't think he's in the Hall of Fame. He
was a great coach. Okay, y A. Tittle was the
quarterback at the time. They had great receivers in Del Shaffner,
Aaron Thomas was a tight end, Joe Morrison running back
from the University of Cincinnati. But I don't think Ali
Sherman's in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 4 (01:31:37):
Sherman is a member of the National Jewish Sports Hall
of Fame, but the Long Island, New York.

Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
Okay, but not in Canada hat Non Cannon Okay. So
there's the argument over there that you can win and
you won't be recognized for the wins that you have.
So it goes both ways. You're right, you could be
a great coach as far as championships, but not considered
worthy enough to be in the Hall of Fame. All right,
and he was great, I mean three years in a row,
that was a great feet. What do he did with
the Giants way back then? And I know I can't

(01:32:04):
remember what I did yesterday, but I remember when I
remember that. It's true, those are my teams. I grew
up with those teams.

Speaker 4 (01:32:10):
So what would happen if Bill becomes Belichick?

Speaker 3 (01:32:16):
Yeah? Belichick? Bill?

Speaker 4 (01:32:17):
What if happens if Bill ends up being the one
coach with the most losses? Does he lose all that
integrity that he gained, all that all that motion of
winning the six Super Bowls?

Speaker 3 (01:32:30):
Does what happens? Does he still go into Canton? Well
he'll he'll be in Canon.

Speaker 2 (01:32:34):
Okay, but the media right now they're like wolves, they're
waiting to pounce on him because ever since Brady's gone,
he's had like a five hundred record. Yeah, he's had
a back he's like and he hasn't made the playoffs
what two years?

Speaker 3 (01:32:44):
Three years?

Speaker 2 (01:32:44):
So you don't want to have your legacy remembered like, well,
you were great with Brady but after Brady, you didn't
do anything, and that's that's what they're gonna do. They're
gonna pounce on him. He'll get in. He's got to
get in. With the six super Bowls, he's got to
get in. It's like the situation where Corey Dillon we
talked about earlier today. He's got to get into the
Ring of honor. He's the all time leading running back
on that team with yards and carries. Got to get in.

(01:33:06):
But it'll take time, and there'll be a lot of
pushback now with Belichick if he doesn't make the playoffs
this year, and as you say, if he coaches the
year after this and gets the thirteen losses and is
the old time leading loser, there'll be a lot of
negativity on him. And it's a shame.

Speaker 3 (01:33:20):
It's a shame. It's a shame. It kind of turns
his legacy.

Speaker 2 (01:33:23):
No doubt about it.

Speaker 3 (01:33:24):
Yeah, No, it's it's funny because now there's there's a
point of view, is like, Okay, so Belichick won six
super Bowls with Tom Brady, but once Tom left, right,
oh my gosh, he couldn't really do anything. So what
all those years he was just coasting and he was
just getting the credit for winning all these ballgames, all
these all these super Bowl games.

Speaker 2 (01:33:45):
And amazing where he stands right now. And I guess
you know, longevity does that to you. You're gonna get
a lot of wins, but you also got to get
a lot of losses right now. Here's where Belichick stands
on the old time list for most regular season wins.
Don Shuler number one of three twenty eight, the late
George hallis for the Chicago Bears, popa Bear number two
with three eighteen. Belichick number three at two ninety eight.

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Now here's where Belichick stands on the old time wins list.
This includes playoff games, Okay, which really isn't that fair
because there are a lot more playoff games now they're
the one when Shula Coastal hallis coach. But that's just
the way it is. Shoela has three hundred and forty seven,
Belichick three twenty nine, so it's possibly he needs eighteen
one wins to pair Shula for the most wins in
NFL history including the postseason. This means the race is

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officially on, with Belichick thirteen losses away from sitting the
record for the most losses and eighteen wins away from
sitting the record for the most wins. It's going to
be interesting to see which one he breaks first. And
I got to say probably the losses. I hope not.

Speaker 3 (01:34:44):
Maybe maybe if they can turn the organization around.

Speaker 4 (01:34:47):
The Yeah, it would be tough for him, but I
think I mean it's not saying that it's not impossible.
I mean he could get up to that eighteen wins
and he could become, you know, the most winning coach
in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (01:34:58):
Well we'll see what happened. But you know what, when
you talk about the goat, and I think Belichick's name
always gonna come up there. I mean, at one time
it was Vince Lombardi. You know the fact that Michael
Vick threw Andy Reeve's name out there, I think it's
good because I don't think you hear enough. I don't
think he gets enough credit. Yeah, I really don't.

Speaker 3 (01:35:13):
I think everyone recognizes that Andy Reid is a great coach.
Everyone recognizes that.

Speaker 4 (01:35:19):
It's only now I think that he's just solidifying that
for himself. Yeah, he is the slid fighting And I
love that Michael Vick spoke out and said that.

Speaker 3 (01:35:30):
I mean, I think he was just speaking to everybody's
mind honestly.

Speaker 2 (01:35:32):
That Yeah, now I'm with you right there. He's Alex Ferman.
He's in for Jeff Schwartz. I'm Andy Ferman. And by
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(01:35:54):
end of this hour, so don't go anywhere. But Fitz
is in a haze. That's right around the corner. It's
time for the name game. Yeah, we'll talk about that
in just about a minute. He's Alex Furman, he's in
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dot Com Forward slash match. Okay, this is a topic
that has gone on for eons, and it's back on
the news again. You know, news recycles itself pretty good.
The last couple of weeks, I've been seeing a lot
of shark attacks stories on the news on CNN and

(01:36:37):
everyplace else. Okay, they didn't have that for a while
several years ago. It comes back again. You know, it's
just a recycling of the stories. That's what they do.
But you know, we know the name game because we
know several professional sports teams have abandoned their indigenous names.
And like the Washington Commanders they're formerly the Redskins, the
Cleveland Guardians they're formerly the Indians, and some teams at

(01:36:58):
the Kansas City Chiefs and the Braves have kept their names.
But now there's a band in New York, in New
York State. Okay, and I'll tell you what happened. This
is just the other day. So people can say, oh,
we heard about these stories. No, no, no, this is
new The state's banning names on Native American mascots, and
it leads the districts to abandoning the names. When the
Canandagua Academy football team in upstate New York takes the

(01:37:21):
field this fall, they will not be the Braves for
the first time in about seventy five years. The Canandagua
City School District is one of dozens in New York
that are retiring Native American inspired team names, mascots, and
logos after the State Education Department banned their use this
past April. In the Rochester area Canandagua schools. They've had

(01:37:45):
the Braves name since nineteen forty nine. Many people, especially
those parents and grandparents who are alumni, they're upset about
removing the name, said Jamie Farr, superintendent of the school district.
They talk about history, so there's a fact right there
why they maybe shouldn't remove the names. Maybe they should.
You know, this is a topic that's gone on and

(01:38:05):
on and on, and a lot of pressure has created
changing Like in Cleveland with the Guardians from the Indians.

Speaker 3 (01:38:11):
Yeah, yeah, you know, Dad, I get it, I really do. They.

Speaker 4 (01:38:16):
I get that they want to make sure that everyone
is included. They don't want to disrespect anyone's group. But
what I don't get is the.

Speaker 3 (01:38:26):
Whole to me just sounds like the cancel culture that's
happening all over the place right the cancel culture of
pressuring others to change a name or to change a mascot.
And from my understanding, you know any one of these groups.

(01:38:49):
Don't I don't see protests and correct me if I'm wrong, Dad,
correct me if I'm wrong. But I don't see protests
of changing the name or changing the mascots.

Speaker 2 (01:39:02):
I don't see the protests. I don't see a lot
of protesting on Okay, it's funny you say that, but
this is happening. Like right now, at least nine states,
including Oregon, Vermont, and Nevada, have passed lords or regulations
banning Native American inspired or discriminatory mascots. Okay, and now
on the New York's Band, which is a new band.

(01:39:22):
School boards must have passed resolutions committing to eliminating these
names and imagery by this past Friday, and they must
remove them fully by the end of the twenty twenty
four to twenty twenty five school year, and schools that
don't comply could have stayed funding withheld. This is unbelievable,
all right, And now we say the massive Peak or

(01:39:44):
Long Island Public Schools passed the resolution just last week
saying it would comply with the band. But get this,
they would challenge the band in court to keep the
Chiefs name. To keep the Chiefs name, okay, And they
say it's no secret. The Chief's logo is not just
an image, the school board said in a letter. It
is massive Peak's history and has been adopted by more

(01:40:07):
than just our school district. I think the history deal
is not a great reasoning to keep the name. Yeah, okay.
Things have gone on for years that have been wrong
in this country, you know, for whatever reason. So just
to say it's been that way all the time, I
don't go for that. But if no one's really protesting
and has a major problem with it, why change it?

(01:40:28):
You know, I understand if you upset one person, you
got to change. You don't want to upset anybody. But
someone's going to be upset and you change the name
right now, obviously all those people in the past are
being upset.

Speaker 3 (01:40:39):
Yeah. No, my high school I went to Dixie Heights
High School and we were home of the Colonels.

Speaker 4 (01:40:45):
Right, So there's two things, right Dixie that that kind
of South Civil War South, you know, it corresponds with
the South, right, But they're not going to change Dixie
Road Dad, They're not going to change Dixie Highway and
change the name.

Speaker 3 (01:41:01):
They're not going to change Dixie Heights High School. And
then the colonels, right, what does the colonels?

Speaker 4 (01:41:07):
You know, I'll got the south right, right, But there's
no one protesting from the school commanding them to change
the name of the of the high school, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:41:17):
And but I.

Speaker 2 (01:41:20):
County High School in northern Kentucky reel and they come
out there with a rebel flag at halftime. But I
haven't seen anybody complaining. I think it's wrong, though.

Speaker 4 (01:41:30):
I get not disrespecting anyone's group. And I backed that
one hundred percent. I want to make that clear. I
backed that one hundred percent. But to change these schools.

Speaker 3 (01:41:42):
That have been you know, and and it.

Speaker 4 (01:41:46):
Works for years and years and decades and decades, Dad,
all just to change the name for the Chiefs to
something else, I don't know, Like, like it's that the
is that the fight that's going to solve everyone's problem?

Speaker 3 (01:41:59):
Is that?

Speaker 4 (01:41:59):
Is that going to be the resolution to solve everyone's problem,
to solve the world's problem, or to solve this specific problem.

Speaker 3 (01:42:06):
Is that the resolution? I don't think that's the resolution. Well,
I think there's bigger works that needs to be done
before before we start tackling high school high school mascots.

Speaker 2 (01:42:16):
And the argument they're having in this massive peak of
school district in Long Island, New York, saying that being
a chieved was platoff his identity, adding that she thinks
the name is meant to honor Native Americans. Okay, and
I guess that's the reasoning why Kansas City never changed
their team name in their football in the NFL to
cut the Chiefs, because it's basically that, look, there's still
a lot if you're gonna do it, do it across

(01:42:38):
the border, don't do it at all. But oft the
Chicago Blackhawks and hockey, I mean you still have the
the Atlanta Bravest and baseball. So this thing has been ongoing,
and now New York was to fight over team names
and they're getting it done on the high school level.
I don't understand that if it's bad, it's bad for all,
not for some, right, and there's still some that haven't

(01:42:58):
because I cannot believe that Boom County gets away with rebels.
I don't get it.

Speaker 3 (01:43:02):
Why why doesn't Peter step in and push a change
to change the Chicago Cubs name that's sin or Cincinnat
Bengals name or the or the Dolphins, the manor you know,
how come that's not happening?

Speaker 2 (01:43:17):
You know, well, look, I know what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (01:43:20):
But so, like like I said before, you know, there
is a change.

Speaker 3 (01:43:25):
That needs to be made right, right, and he backed
the change.

Speaker 8 (01:43:29):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:43:30):
You can't do some, you gotta do all or none? Yes, right?
So now in just the hand picking states when I
read this, there's gonna be Oregon, Vermont, Nevada. They've passed
laws in New York. Now where's everybody else?

Speaker 3 (01:43:41):
Do you?

Speaker 8 (01:43:41):
Or?

Speaker 2 (01:43:41):
I mean, is it just bad for them? It's gotta
be everybody or none? That's what. Hey, we're gonna pick
this up in a minute. Maybe take some phone calls
eight seven seven ninety on Fox eight seven seven nine
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episode or Thread underscore Alex if you are, will do that,
and also I want to talk about something that's happening
at Northwestern University. Will do that. But first, Kevin's got

(01:44:03):
all the sports. Let's call Kevin wired.

Speaker 6 (01:44:05):
Well, Wimbledon getting started today or continue, I should say
today the Action has already commenced. Novak Djokovic one of
the notable players who has a match today. Top seed
to Carlos Alcaaz won his third round match on Saturday.
In the NBA, the league announcing the format for its
new in season tournament. It'll take place mostly in November.

(01:44:26):
It'll be six groups of five teams, three each in
the Western and Eastern conferences, and the semi finals and
finals will take place in early December in Las Vegas.
The grand prize each player on the winning team will
collect five hundred thousand dollars. The Spurs extending Greg Popovich.
They're giving him a new five year contract that will

(01:44:48):
carry him into his age seventy nine season in college basketball,
a lawyer for a former West Virginia basketball coach Bob
Huggins sending a letter to the school saying Huggins never
resigned after last month's to Uyi rest and he expects
to have his job back. In soccer, Megan Rapino saying
she will retire after this year, and the women's national

(01:45:10):
team getting their final tunea before they head out for
the World Cup. The us men with a Gold Cup
quarterfinal match tonight against Canada, and in Major League Baseball,
a couple of impressive feats on Saturday. First, the Tiger's
throwing a combined no hitter as they blink to Blue
Jays two nothing. Matt Manning going six and two thirds
and when he was pulled in the seventh, had absolutely

(01:45:31):
no idea that he had a no no going. And
Elie de la Cruz in Cincinnati, Man, what more can
we say about him? He continues to impress and on
Saturday stole three bases consecutively on two pitches, including home plate.
Absolutely incredible. Cincinnati two games ahead of Milwaukee in the

(01:45:52):
NL Central standings that he had beat the Brewers eight
to five. In the AL Centrals, the Guardians and the
Twins swapping spots as Cleveland beat the Royals ten to six,
Minnesota losing to the Orioles six to two, So it's
Cleveland on top by half a game. In the NL West,
the Dodgers pound the Angels ten to five. They sweep

(01:46:12):
all four games in the Freeway Series this year, the
Arizona Diamondbacks winning against the Pirates three to two, so
it's Arizona still a half game ahead of Los Angeles.
In the National League West. Back to you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:46:26):
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in about seven eight minutes from now. Let me give

(01:46:48):
you some statistics here on these schools with names. Okay,
there are about nineteen hundred schools in the US. I'd
use Native American inspired team names. According to this advocacy group,
which has defended Native Americans and tribal rights for decades now,
a twenty twenty two review of twenty six studies concluded
that these mascots have negative mental health impacts on Native Americans.

(01:47:10):
The American Psychological Association in five called for such mascots
to be discontinued, citing a growing body of social science
literature that shows the harmful effects of racial stereotyping. Okay,
I get it. I understand that, But why has it
only been in the states of Oregon, Vermont, Nevada, and
New York? Is it across the board? Do it to everybody?

(01:47:31):
Or do it to no one? That's all I'm saying.
All right, that's the craziness of this, I really is.

Speaker 3 (01:47:35):
No. I agree, I absolutely agree, And I don't think
changing the names of high school football teams or high
school mascots solves the bigger issue. I think we should
tackle the bigger issue and not do these I hate
to say small projects. I don't know them. I agree.
I'll just have to agree with you there.

Speaker 2 (01:47:54):
All right, Now, you talk about bigger issues, here's a
bigger issue for you, and you play the game of football,
something you can relate to this. Okay, h Northwestern University
and outside of Chicago, Everston Illinois their football coach Pat Fitzgerald,
and I love him. I think it's great he played
for them. He's been issued now an unpaid two weeks
suspension effective like right now, following an investigation into hazing

(01:48:14):
allegations within the program. All right, hazing, and look, you
played football and a hazing kind of goes hand in
hand with football, was there or has that been hazing
in your high school and or college players with playing
days when you played football.

Speaker 3 (01:48:28):
You know, I think when a lot of people think
of hazing, they think of certain things. You know, maybe uh,
getting pushed into a locker or you know, doing things
that you don't want to do. You gotta you gotta
do it to be a part of the.

Speaker 2 (01:48:44):
Team, right, you know what your upperclassmen do it to
the fresh.

Speaker 3 (01:48:48):
Yeah, you know, being being forced to you know, drink
chug a beer. That's a form of hazing.

Speaker 2 (01:48:54):
People, have you seen it?

Speaker 3 (01:48:57):
I luckily, in my experience, I was never exposed to hazing.
I've never saw it in.

Speaker 2 (01:49:02):
The college team, never had it.

Speaker 3 (01:49:05):
I guess it was more like I just saw maybe
some borling bullying in high school. It wasn't really hazing.
When I think of hazing, I think it's like something
that people do as an initiation to get into a
group or to be accepted in the group or.

Speaker 2 (01:49:20):
Something like that's player against the goalposts and throw balls
at him and you know, with his pants off or
something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:49:26):
Yeah, see, that's that's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:49:29):
Now in Northwest and they have a practice called running
and involves a younger player being restrained while eight to
ten older players engaged in sexualized act in the locker room.
All right, it's its versions of running took place during
certain portions of the year, including Thanksgiving and Christmas. And
this was by an anonymous player. A former player told

(01:49:51):
the Daily Northwestern newspaper about this sexualized hazing. You know,
and again, the coach is going to be responsible. He's
sort of like the CEO of the organization. He may
not know of knowing is going on, but it's his responsibility,
so he's taking the blame for it.

Speaker 4 (01:50:05):
He's taking the you know, first off, this is just
a disgusting thing and absolutely thing I don't I don't
understand what goes through some people's heads, right that says,
let's do this, this is.

Speaker 2 (01:50:18):
Okay, Right, let's have something.

Speaker 3 (01:50:20):
This is just part of being on the Northwestern's football team.
I would expect that is disgusting. But can a coach
really know what's going on in the football locker room
at all times? Right? Think how many things you know?

(01:50:40):
I'm not defending that this is okay.

Speaker 4 (01:50:42):
This is not okay, right under any circumstances, this is
not okay. But just take a step back for just
a second and think how many things the head football
coach has to juggle all at one time. There's no
way that the football coach is looking in the locker
room and seeing what's going on the locker room.

Speaker 3 (01:50:59):
It would be impossible.

Speaker 2 (01:51:00):
He's responsible twenty four to seven because he'll get a
call at two in the morning if one of his
guys gets at DUI. Yeah, right, So he's he's there
all the time. He's like the parent. That's that's basically
acting as a pairent when the parent's not there. That
that's what he is. In local parentis they.

Speaker 3 (01:51:13):
Call that I. I. It must be so hard being
the head coach.

Speaker 2 (01:51:18):
You know, the coach's easiest part of the game planning,
that's easy. The other stuff, the other that's what we
have twenty hours in a day.

Speaker 3 (01:51:25):
That's what I'm saying. But you'll take a step back here, dad,
Is it the coach's responsibility to really know what's going
on in the in the locker room at all times?
Should there be a leader on the football team, the
quarterback on the football team, the captain on the football
team to keep an eye of what's going on in

(01:51:45):
the locker room and to report back to the coach,
or not even report back. Step up and be the leader,
be the captain that you're a finding and stop it. Yeah,
what happened to that? How come he's not suspended? Because
maybe how come the quarterback is suspended.

Speaker 2 (01:52:00):
Because the captain and or quarterback usually it is the
same person did not have that gumption, that the backbone
to do it because maybe he was involved doing it.
You just don't know, I mean, but you would expect more.
You want to you want to get a leader that
could really truly be a leader. Yes, and I guess
they weren't, But I feel bad. I mean, Northwestern would
be like one of the last schools I suspect for

(01:52:23):
hazing when you think about it, I mean, it's almost
like an IVY League school in Northwestern. Yeah, but you
just I'm not mentioning names what I would not be
surprised to hear from other schools, but Northwestern. I was shocked, Yeah,
I really was.

Speaker 3 (01:52:35):
I was really shocked about that this came out.

Speaker 4 (01:52:37):
First off, it's just a completely disgusting act. But I
just I don't know if all of the responsibility really
should fall on the head football's coach.

Speaker 3 (01:52:48):
I don't think it should, Dad.

Speaker 2 (01:52:49):
Well, who and who it's got to be.

Speaker 3 (01:52:51):
It's got to fall on the players, but.

Speaker 2 (01:52:53):
It's got to be also someone who's a paid person
from the university or to college, someone who's basically.

Speaker 3 (01:52:59):
What about the ad? How come to ad?

Speaker 2 (01:53:00):
He was not in the locker room.

Speaker 3 (01:53:02):
Neither is the coach. Dad.

Speaker 4 (01:53:03):
Yeah, I'll tell you that the coach is not in
the in the locker room twenty four to seven watching
what the guys are doing.

Speaker 2 (01:53:09):
Okay, do me a favor now, because this is really
discussing between this and talking about the hot dogs with
Joey Chest making me sick. Let's talk about this diet
before we roll out of here and the next segment.
This diet is Boston College offensive lineman Kyle Hergel. Tell
me what he eats. He's like six to two, three
hundred and two pounds, and you gave me a listing
of what his daily diet is every single day he

(01:53:31):
talked about discussed laying on me.

Speaker 3 (01:53:33):
Yeah, first off, he starts at six am.

Speaker 4 (01:53:35):
That's way earlier than you wake up every day six am,
pre workout, overnight oats and breakfast sandwich.

Speaker 3 (01:53:42):
That's where he starts, right nine am post workout tart
cherry juice. They have multiple vitamin or multi vitamin Vitamin D,
smoothie watermelon and PBJ o'clock in the morning, the whole watermelon.

Speaker 2 (01:53:56):
Is that? What that means? He eats on the entire war.

Speaker 3 (01:53:58):
We have the watermelon. That's not too bad, right, smoothie
watermelon and PBJ. One o'clock. This is lunchtime, tacos and toordolini. Okay,
four o'clock protein and card bowl for dinner, two chicken wraps.
And at ten o'clock this is right before bed, whole
protein shake.

Speaker 2 (01:54:16):
Very good. All right, I may follow this.

Speaker 3 (01:54:18):
That's a full day.

Speaker 2 (01:54:19):
Might do it for a week, okay. Alex Furman, Andy Furman,
you're in for Jeff Schwartz right here, Fox Sports Sunday.
It's finger point the time. Why why why you answer?
The blame game is next on a blame game coming
right up. This is Fox Sports Sunday. He's Alex Furman
and for Jeff Schwartz, I'm Andy Furman and when a
live from the Ti rock dot Com studios. By the way,
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(01:54:42):
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Of course, top of the hour, there'll be nine o'clock
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What a combo. That is not a luck Eastern time.
But right now it's time to play the playing game.

Speaker 3 (01:55:04):
You ruin me.

Speaker 2 (01:55:05):
It's all your fault.

Speaker 1 (01:55:07):
It's your fault, all your fault.

Speaker 2 (01:55:13):
Maybe it's everyone's fault.

Speaker 1 (01:55:16):
A liar, that's why there's the blame game. Let's figure
out who to blame.

Speaker 2 (01:55:21):
Yeah, yeah, who the playing here's the finger point to himself,
the big a Ethan Miller.

Speaker 8 (01:55:27):
Guys, it's been a pleasure hanging with the firm and
duo again.

Speaker 2 (01:55:30):
Thank you very much, thanks for hanging out with Yeah,
always a pleasure to be with you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:55:34):
Yes, So.

Speaker 8 (01:55:37):
This whole thing on Wembin Yama, you know, not having
a good uh you know, summer League game and people
already talking about how he's a bust and blah blah
blah blah blah. I just have a curios I just
have a question for you guys about NBA scouts having
a tough time to get talent correct and top five

(01:55:58):
picks correct.

Speaker 3 (01:56:00):
Who's to blame for this?

Speaker 8 (01:56:01):
Because it's not really address really when they get get
things wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:56:05):
It's kind of the problem with Victor who only had
nine points in his first start in the NBA Summer
League with San Antonio. Is not his fault. It's Britney
spears fault. It's in his head. Now, Britney Spears has
a condo in his head. Really, he made him crazy.
She made him crazy. He doesn't know what to First
of all, he probably never heard of her. What do
you think you think I ever heard of Britney Sears?

(01:56:26):
He's too young.

Speaker 3 (01:56:27):
Everybody star shrucked. Now you can't Now, you can't get
damaged of Brittany out of his head.

Speaker 2 (01:56:38):
I don't know, but she she she missed him up already.
And women could do that to you though I'm not saying.
I'm just just say it could happen, all right. But
the scout thing, you know it, it's a crop. Shoot,
you know what a guy's gonna do. Come on, That's
why I can't stand when these guys laughed. When I
hear these people say this stuff, Hey, look at that kid,
what's his name? On the Lakers that back what wasn't

(01:57:00):
even drafted. It's great. I love them.

Speaker 8 (01:57:02):
Right, all right, American, Let's just put it this way.
People are talking fancy football and it's not even halfway
through July.

Speaker 3 (01:57:12):
Who's to blame for this addiction? It's the fans. They
can't get they can't they can't get enough of the NFL.
They're just obsessed, you know, they sleep, eat, and and
and do everything. NFL.

Speaker 2 (01:57:26):
They people you with your friends, your friends. It's the
fans your friends.

Speaker 3 (01:57:32):
Honestly, it's obsession to go to AA meetings or go
go get.

Speaker 2 (01:57:38):
Help or something. Problem more, there's more to lies. Come on,
you know what they know? I can't stand. I'm watching
baseball games on TV and after the fourth inning they
got these comer. What do you think we are? I
like the fourth They're crazy. The remedy down your throat,
they're gonna be so many people walking around with barrels,
have no clothes left debating it. It's enough, but with

(01:57:59):
your head, as they say, not over.

Speaker 3 (01:58:00):
It all right. Most people are saying the.

Speaker 8 (01:58:04):
New Andy Indiana Jones movie isn't that great?

Speaker 3 (01:58:10):
Who's to blame for this.

Speaker 2 (01:58:12):
His age.

Speaker 3 (01:58:15):
Four to a hundred years old. How long is the guy?

Speaker 2 (01:58:17):
Come on, be like making me Indiana Jones? Come on?

Speaker 3 (01:58:20):
Are they making another movie? He made? He made a
couple back in the early nineties, late eighties, for the
for the gelt, for.

Speaker 2 (01:58:26):
The g Yeah, it's by for the It's always for
the green cabbage.

Speaker 3 (01:58:33):
Who thought that was a good idea?

Speaker 2 (01:58:35):
I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 8 (01:58:37):
Last last one, last year before we get off here,
So Alex is not on every week? Who's the blame me?
He begs, he begs, he begs Scott not to put
me back.

Speaker 3 (01:58:53):
On th.

Speaker 2 (01:58:56):
This is my worst nightmare. Really, he begs with you.
I don't want him here, you.

Speaker 3 (01:59:01):
Know, I right, Scott nice, I say thank you for
the opportunity. And my dad said, don't let him back.

Speaker 2 (01:59:09):
Jeff Schwartz, he's relaxing, he's calming. That's the way it is.
We love him. I have a great day. I don't
know when I'll see you again, Jeff Schwartz. I miss you.
I miss you, Jeff.

Speaker 1 (01:59:19):
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