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wherever you get your podcasts. He was amazing, but this
stat tops them all. Welcome everybody, this is Fox Sports Sunday.
And speaking of amazing, here's my part. There a friend
still want and only Brian No, Hello, b How are you?

(01:04):
How is the week? Week? Was pretty good? Firm? Not bad? Man?
How are you doing? Andy? Everything good? He's good? You
know you must be happy if Cardinals beating up on
the Yankees. He do you like that hot? Like a firecracker?
Beautiful thing? Huh? Cardinals leading the division? Now Yankees with
the season long with four game losing streak is that
crazy season long? But they haven't had a great record.

(01:26):
What are they Gosh, I want to say six and
eleven since the All Star Break. I believe that's what
it is. I'll double check that, but not great. Yeah,
the only thing that keeping them afloat is Aaron Judge.
You know, that's basically the guy is a monster. But
forty three home runs, now, I mean, there's a good
shot right now that he's going after the babe. They

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got some games left. He could get it done going
after going after the babe, Right, that's the like garrig are,
I'm sorry, uh, Mariss, you're talking about Marria're not talking
the baby or like fifteen is a different thing, right,
He's like at Marists this year, right, babe. Well we'll see.

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And I'm sure there's a segment of the population an
old time Yankee mans. I don't want to see new
breed athletes bypass historical athletes. I'm sure that's the case.
You know it. Monsey was actually talking about this the
other night where it was I believe it was Roger
Marris's son, and it was fine that it was classy
about it. He was like, you know Aaron Judge is

(02:31):
a fine player. If I'm being honest, no, I don't want.
I don't want to see him break my dad's record.
But if he does, records are meant to be broken.
I thought it was very understandable. There are a lot
of people that like, though, yeah, oh yeah, I'm I'm
pulling for the guy. I hope he breaks the record.
He's like, honestly, no, I would rather he didn't. But

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if he does, more power to him. But I like
the honesty. You know, it's funny you mentioned that was
you know, immediately comes to mind when h Russell Westbrook
had that triple double season and they brought in Oscar
Robertson to like to present them some Silvan Award, Remember that,
And I said, why would the big old come down there?
Especially I know him and his personality is such that

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he probably was not happy that someone like broke his record,
but it was it was beautiful that he was there,
and it was beautiful that he shared that moment with Russell.
But I was shocked that he did. Many an athlete
would not do that. I disagree with you, um because
I think about Ray Allen being there when Steph Curry
broke the all time three point record, very gracious that.

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Ray Allen was really cool about that, and um, like
Eric Dickerson. Eric Dickerson has said this before with his
five his rushing record for a single season. I believe
he doesn't want anyone to break it, but if someone
were close enough, I believe he would be there. So
I think there's a difference between hey, deep down, I'd

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rather my record stands and still being gracious enough to
be there and to show love. I think you can
do both, um, but I think, yeah, there are a
lot of athletes that don't want to see that happen.
The big Oh, he he went above and beyond. He
was there on the microphone and celebrating Russ like this
guy should win m VP on top of it, and yeah,
he went above and beyond. I thought it was really

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cool what he did. The problem with modern day athletes
breaking records of yesteryear is the fact that there's always
gonna be that guy who's gonna say, well, it was
rougher back then. The players are better, There were less teams,
was more competition. You know, breaking a record, a record
is a record. I don't care on what level you
do it. Is still a tremendous feat. Yeah, and look,

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I think it's um, I forget the saying exactly is uh,
you know when other people say that you're great, that's
what you really want, you know, it's it's something along
those lines. I can't remember. It's it's said a lot more,
a lot better than that. But I think that let's
take the NFL for instance, if Eric Dickerson were to say, well,

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you know, I got one oh five and fewer games
than let's say, someone broke the record in seventeen games, now,
it's a bad look. If Eric Dickerson were to say that,
that's where you just let other people say it. People
know what's going on. You don't have to say it
because it could make you look small if you did that.
You're exactly right. And speaking of records, I mean the Dodges.
They went allowed to honor the film of broadcaster Vince Scully.

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This was on Friday night before they played the Padres.
As you know, Vince died this week at the age
of ninety four. The teams broadcaster for sixty seven seasons,
way back when they were playing in Brooklyn, and it
was the first home game since Scully died on this
past Tuesday, and the Dodgers did hell a moment of silence.
They played in eleven minute tribute video highlighting his memorable

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moments from Scully's career. Let's take a list to what
happened on that Friday night. You will be missed. We
love you. We will think about you every day, every
game we come here, every fan that shows up to
Dodger Stadium, there's a reason you will always be remembered.

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You will always be linked to these five words. It's
time for Dodger Baseball. So now, fifty thousand Dodger fans,
get on your feet, on the count of three, yell

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as loud as you can. So, Mr Vinn, can you
hear us from Blue Heaven? One, two, three, Let's get
let's go. Hey, what if you don't get goose bumps

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listening to that? There's something wrong with you. I mean,
you have a pulse. It's unbelievable. Really voiced the Dodgers
for sixty seven years, and as good as he was,
he's the best there ever wasn't ever will be The
most amazing stat ever, at least in my mind, is
that he had one job, one job only for sixty
seven years and he brought it every day to the forefront.
I mean, I can't imagine anybody staying in one place

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for sixty seven freaking years. Think about that. Yeah, that
is pretty crazy. And look, he had an outstanding career.
I thought, you know, shout out to you with the
Brooklyn Eagle over there. You did a piece on Vince
Scully And what was the statue you put in there?
Back in gosh, it was like seventy six. He was

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voted Dodger the most popular Dodger back in the seventies.
This was right? It was was it seventy six? Do
I have that right? A long time ago? That was
the Mariy Wills, Don Drysdale, Colfax on that team, and
like he was voted the most popular guy. Yeah, it
was amazing. Really, it's pretty crazy. And you know, we

(07:53):
lost two legends this past week with Bill Russell and
Vince Scully. But um, you know, the Rodgers have done
a great job honoring Vin. And I was watching the
game last night. They have a little Vin with a
microphone on the mound. Obviously have that on the jerseys.
So but what a life, you know, both guys. But
with Vince Scully nine four years old, you know what

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I mean. And to live a full life like then,
to have the positive impact on so many people, It's like, bro,
the run doesn't get much better than that. To get
to ninety four years old and to live a full
life like that, shout out to him. And he was
working until he was He was doing games, not not
the entire schedule. I think that's the home games and
some of the West Coast games. I mean some of

(08:37):
the teams on the West Coast and the Western States. Yeah,
but still kept it going, even on a limited basis. Uh,
that late in his career and still sharp. That was
the thing, Like, you know, we heard this a lot
with uh with Tom Brady, There's a lot of people anticipated, man,
when's he gonna fall off? When is he really gonna slip?
And there are a lot of players that happens, and

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it hasn't happened with Bray yet. And luckily, I don't
believe we saw that within If anything, it was just
the schedule. The workload decreased. But it's not like you
turned on a Dodger game and you're like, wow, man,
this guy is really slowing down. I never felt like that.
That the key to Vince Scully, I think at least
one of the keys. I mean, obviously he's his grandma

(09:20):
was tremendous. His vocabulary was unreal, but he knew when
not to talk. That was the key, you know. I'll
watch a baseball game and like just the other day,
I was listening to the CINCIETI Reds on radio, and
Chris Welsh, who was a picture for them, was telling
a great story about David Concepcion, who happened to come
in the visiting radio booth when they were in Miami
of the day, and it was really it was eloquent.

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That what I love to hear that, and I think
it want to hear stories like that. And they played
by play guy. I'm not gonna embarrass I'm not gonna
meage his name. He keet that interrupting about no one cares.
Let Chris Wells finish the freaking story. Really, that's the
way it is. And Vin would go on and on,
people want to hear story. He's don't worry about the
ball and strike count. I want to hear the story,

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and and Chris Wells was interrupted several times. Foul ball
fell off dated ball too. Oh man, I was going crazy.
It just it just bothered me. And I'm not so
certain that that Vince Scully would be hired today because
he didn't have a stick. He didn't force laughter, and
he didn't holler. So I don't think that. I mean,
that's what these guys want, that's what news directors and
sports directors want today. They wanted character with stick, and

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Vin didn't really have stick. Well, the thing, the first
thing I think of is it hits your ear differently,
because when Vinn was doing it, I guess if you
really look at it, technically, Vin would be interrupting himself
because he would tell a story. Yeah, great timing. He
would tell a story and he would work in what
was going on during the game, you know what I mean,

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Like the game didn't just pause until his story was
done and he got back to it, so he'd work
in the ball outside and keep the story going himself.
It probably sounded a lot different if it was a
two person thing and person was telling the story in
person too, is like fallball to one or whatever, Like,
probably it's differently, but really then did the same exact thing.

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It was just it was a one man show, so
it probably sounded a lot differently, but you're right, he was.
One of his great strengths was just shutting up. I
mean he would describe the play, Kurt Gibson's home run.
He described the play, and he did a sensational job
with that. And then you just lay out and let
the crowd go nuts. And you would hear that, and
he said that like he was, he was a kid

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that would listen to the radio at eight years old,
and that's how he really connected, is hearing the crowd
in the background. And so he said when he would
stop talking and just let the crowd cheer, he was
eight years old all over again. It was really cool.
But yeah, that was one of his signature his signature
things throughout his career is just laying out and letting

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the crowd take over. Let you mind wand of for
a second right now and just kind of think of
who do you think today? You know is on that
pedestal of one of the best ever played by play
And in my mind and what came to my mind
first was Al Michaels. Other than that, I mean, I
just there's no one out there in that horde of
announcers that really kind of strikes me like, Wow, he's

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really special. He's heading shoulders above the rest, and to me,
I think NBC made a huge mistake letting him go.
I really do. I loved al Michaels and I still
love al Michaels. Well. All does the tremendous job he
always has, and um, he's probably the legend that you
would you would put at the top most people would.

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I think the most underappreciated guy is Joe Buck. I
have thought Joe Buck has done a great job for
years and years, not just football but baseball, and man,
that's the one guy who I think he's like the
anti Baker Mayfield. All right, if you think about Joe Buck,
it's like with Baker, it's mixed, right. There are a

(13:01):
lot of people that are aware that he's average or
below average at times, but every now and then you
get people that are like, yeah, but look at they
prop him up, you know, And I think Joe Buck
he is outstanding and a lot of people just, oh,
I hate that guy, that guy, right, Like, it seems
to work the other way with as good as Joe

(13:22):
Buck he is, he gets a lot of negativity. So
I think he's the most underappreciated guy for as good
as he is. What about our executive producers? Big tam
t B, He says Eli. Another Brooklyn guy, Eli Gold
of US of Alabama football. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's a legend.
Yeah yeah, and he's gonna miss He's gonna be out
for the very beginning of the season. Um so yeah,

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you have there. It's like they're basketball and baseball announcer
taking over for Eli Gold. Just hopefully he's not out
very long. But man, he's been there forever. He's been
there a long long time. I think he took over
as the voice. I'd have to look it up, but
it's around or something like. He's been there for a
long time. I'll send you the story in the Brooklyn Eagle.

(14:06):
I did his story and about a year ago. I'll good,
I'll look it up on the email it to you.
I probably read it, and if you send it to
I read your Brooklyn Eagle stuff. If I get an email,
it's like, all right, I gotta support my guy. You know. Well,
think I don't see you everyone the ones. I think
that may may be interesting to you because I know
how busy you are. I really do. But other than
you know, Eli Gold on a national basis Al Michaels.

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Other than that, I just I don't know many others
that are up on that pedestal. Really. Man, when you
start with the who's on the Vince Skully you know
who's on that level, It's like, come on, man, it's
it's really hard to for anybody to be on that level.
For obvious reasons. I would tell you as much. Marty

(14:49):
Brennaman's close. I mean he he was there forty six
years to be on the microphone with the Ridge, and
I thought the world of Marty Burnhaman. I thought he
was tremendous, and you know he's a Hold of Famer,
he really is. But you've got the old timers like
the Mail Allen's there, Any Harwell's, Bob Prince. You never
see guys that din anymore. You just won't, you really won't.
I think it's funny. I've always laughed at it because
it's kind of like the anti sports radio host because

(15:12):
with sports radio, you know, inevitably going to say things
that people really disagree with, like strongly disagree with. You're
gonna touch nerves from time to time. So there's not
gonna be any sports radio host that is going to
be as widely and fondly thought of as a play
by play guy. You know, like it just doesn't happen.

(15:34):
The play by play person is there for the best moments,
and you think of that play by play guy with
the best moments, whether it's Chick Hearne or Vince Skully
or whatever. Right, Like, that's the way it goes. But
like sports radio hosts, I don't think you'll ever be
thought of as fondly. I mean, look, Kyle heard a
lot of people think of him as the best of

(15:54):
all time. There are a lot of people that love
Jim Rome. Whatever the sports radio host you like the most,
you probably inca finally, But the point is the reach
isn't as far because you're touching nerves quite a bit,
and it just doesn't work the same thing. Say Rich
Riches in California wants to talk to Brian oh right
here on Fox Sports Radio. Hello, Rich, how are you?

(16:15):
I'm all right. I've been living on here about thirty
five years, so I'm gonna mention somebody currently. I think
it's very good, and you know, it's been doing a
long time. John Miller, uh Stall and Kiper, Yeah, and
I go back to Chicago before Harry Carroll, Jack brick

(16:36):
House good as anybody. But if you want to go
back brick House, Harry Carey. But today, if you want
to find somebody to take, John Miller does a hell
of a job. And I think you broadcast well as anybody.
So I've watched somebody from today about John Miller, Cruk
and Kite, they you know, they do it as well.
But the San Francisco Baseball podcast is doing excellent job.

(16:59):
So good call. Yeah, that's a good cool. John Mill
does a good job. But you know, really the few
and far between, they really But we'll continue with this
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(18:02):
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Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Why it's so
hard to get back to this game, We'll get to
that in just about a minute. He is Brian No

(18:24):
Mandy Firman. This is Fox Sports Sunday and Fox Sports Radio,
and let's get it to some ball because that's what
my guy wants to talk about, because it's here. The
game was Thursday night, the first preseason game. There we go.
You know, we're talking about the Super Bowl repeating in
the Super Bowl for a team. It's so difficult. I
wish I could talk to each and every one of
the fans in Cincinnati and tell them that it's not

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gonna be an automatic deal, that the Bengals are going back,
but let them have their day. Okay, it takes luck.
Lack of injuries takes breaks, as sure it does. But
as for the l A Rams, their quarterback Matthew Stafford's
right elbow pain is abnormal for a quarter according to
his coach Sean mcfaith, let's take a list of To Sean,
it's a little bit abnormal for a quarterback. You know,

(19:07):
some of this stuff is is things that you know
MLB pictures deal with, and so it is something that
you know, we're kind of learning about on the fly
and and his feedback and really trying to just figure out, Okay,
how do we get the best plan in place to
try to minimize some of the things that he was
having to push through. What do you make about that,
be Well, I don't think it's the sky is falling

(19:28):
territory just yet. It is, uh, it's something that makes
you concerned, of course if you're the coaching staff or
a Rams fan. But um, you know, it sounds like
he's gonna be okay. And Sean McVeigh said it it's
something he could push through right now, but you want
to be cautious about it. But when he throws out

(19:50):
phrases like a tricky deal, abnormal for a quarterback. It's like,
it's not what I want to hear if you root
for the Rams. But I don't think it's anything that's
gonna be crazy. I can relate to this a little bit.
Right now. I've got this weird elbow. It's kind of
like this tendon nitist thing going on, and so it's
it's just uncomfortable. I've worked through it for gosh months,

(20:13):
you know, to try to get it back. But it's
a really delicate thing. There's like a little bit of
swelling and then it'll ache and then so to throw
a football. I can imagine that it's something that's just
more annoying than anything. I don't think it's gonna be something.
My guess is it's not going to be something that
is really gonna cause his play to slip unless it

(20:33):
really progressive and gets a lot worse. As of right now,
I think it's something that he could push through and
it just be annoying more than anything. But I don't
think it would cause his play to slip significantly at all.
I just don't see that happening. You would hope, So
he threw during the individual seven on seven jewels. I
said on Thursday he didn't take part in that he
reps on Friday. However, you gotta believe that you want

(20:54):
to at least see him go to practice. I mean,
you gotta practice with the guys. You gotta get the
reps in there. But I'll tell you this much, and
this is the way my warped mind thinks. There's one
guy out there licking his chops, and I gotta believe
there's Jimmy G. Think about this. No one's gonna pick
this guy up because of the twenty six million dollar contract.
No one's gonna pay for that. I don't care who
it is. Not in New England, not Cleveland, no one.

(21:15):
No one's paying that kind of money. However, if something
should go south with Matthew Stafford, there's a real good
chance he could get picked up by the l A. Rams.
I think no chance. It's just like the Seattle Seahawks.
It's the same division. The only way that would happen
is after Jimmy G is released. If that is that's

(21:36):
the only way, Yeah, I think there is. It depends
on the suspension for Deshaun Watson. If it's a full season,
there's a chance that the Browns would pick him up
and the forty Niners would know, Okay, there's obviously a
need from the Browns, so you would hold on to
him in hopes that you could come up with a

(21:58):
trade so and Browns half cap space, they could do that.
So I think that's the wild card team is depending
on the length of the suspension for Deshaun Watson. If
it ended up being a full season, I think Jimmy
G would be in play. Just looking at it from
the outside looking in, I don't know why they would
want to punt on the two season um because they

(22:19):
got a lot of talent on that roster and Jacoby
Brissette he's okay in small doses. I don't think highly
of Jimmy G. I don't think he's a difference maker,
but he's better than Jacoby Brissette. There's no doubt John
Wolford two to back up on the Rams. Wolford, Yeah.
I just don't think that Matthew Stafford is in that
bad of shape. I just don't think they're in the

(22:40):
market for Hey, we we gotta get Jimmy G because
of this elbow thing. I just don't think it's that
dire of a situation for the Rams. I would hope not.
You know one thing, Look, it's not a question who
I root for. I root for sports. I root for
the best possible athlete to play all the time. When
I watch a game, be a TV or in person,
I want to see the top guys play. You know,

(23:01):
That's why I'm kind of a little bit of a
disdain for preseason football, because the guys that are playing
well pindly ever see them play, wants the season stars.
I may not even be on the roster. I want
to see the regulars play all the time, and I
want to see Matthew Stafford play. You know, it's just
not right. But you know, sometimes it goes down south
that way, and that's why it's so difficult to repeat
going back to the Super Bowl or repeating any sport

(23:23):
as a championship because of injuries. And let's hope that
it's just a little pain that could get taken care of,
uh without without surgery, Let's hope. So yeah, of course
you gotta go all the way back to the Patriots
in O three and O four, those two seasons. That's
the last time we've had a repeat champion in the NFL,
So we're getting closing in on two decades where no

(23:46):
one has repeated. So it's not easy at all. And
the Rams have a stacked roster. But yeah, the injury
luck is a big, big deal, and you saw it
in the same division last year. Look at what happened
with the Seahawks. But win ten games year in and
year out, just like clockwork. But Russell Wilson got hurt
and that was one of the biggest reasons why they

(24:08):
didn't have the season that they typically had. Went down
to in Baltimore. Sure, and that was a huge deal
for both of those teams. It was interesting, Andy, I'll
give you some numbers in a little while, because I
was just I ran across the stat where the Raids
they had a minus sixty five point differential last year.

(24:30):
Of course, this was a stat leading up to the
Hall of Fame game. I read it, and so I
just got curious. I was like, well, what was the
Bengals right point differential the season prior uh their of
their Super Bowl Seatson last year? Right? And so the
Bengals they were all the way at minus one thirteen,
so they were minus one thirteen and point differential, So

(24:53):
like opponents scored a hundred and thirteen more points throughout
the course of the season than they scored, right, and
so rebounded from that and went to the Super Bowl
the next year. And of course you can point to
the injuries, like the biggest reason was Joe Burrow was
hurt for half the season two years ago, and he's
fully healthy last year. So the injury stuff matters a
whole lot. But I was just looking at point differential

(25:16):
last year and a couple of things really surprised me.
So I can share that with you a little bit
later today. And one thing you did share with us
recently is the fact that the good thing is that
we say that teams cannot come back very difficult to
repeat in the Super Bowl. I think it's a good thing.
You really mentioned that as well, because we talked about
the NBA at times. We picked out the winner back
in August before college football, all like clock where Bama, Georgia,

(25:42):
Ohio State, and who's the fourth thing? Maybe Notre Dame
is gonna be Oklahoma, maybe Clemson in there. Yeah, And
you had Nick Saban this past week say it was
more of a rebuilding year rebuilding with the Heisman Trophy
winner and in appearance in the Championship Game. Guys go
to the NFL. But I would say a rebuilding it
for Alabama is probably better than Division Point. There's just

(26:07):
not parody in college football. Do you think last year
was a rebuilding year for the Bengals? They made it
to the super Bowl. That's the same thing, that's the
same stage that Alabama made it too, in the College
Football National Championship Game. But there's just such a lack
of parody in college football. It's too predictable. I love
college football, but I wish there was a lot more
parody like the NFL and college football. I'm with you there.

(26:31):
He's Brian No, I'm Andy Firman. This is Fox Sports
Sunday in Fox Plus Trading. By the way, you'll never
see him coach again. I'm gonna tell you who he is.
But first to the first lady of Fox Sports months
a Bolognos with the latest. Oh I thought I was
daddy for a second with that. Hi, guys, how are
you good? Good? How are things everything good? Oh? Not

(26:53):
much has changed since yesterday when I talked to you? Right,
did you miss us? Did I day. I'm happy to
be here chatting with you both. I'm happy. Let's continue
on with your RAMS conversation. So they did have practice
yesterday Saturday, and Matthew Stafford through and apparently he had
a pretty good practice. This is what he told the

(27:14):
media after about his elbow. I just have a little soreness.
We're working through it. I felt pretty good today. I
thought it looked pretty good. But just trying to be
smart with it and made me feel as good as
I can feel going into week one and and h
while still getting as many reps I can to. Like
you said, they're being smart with it. But after seeing
Matthew Stafford throwing, this is what Sean McVeigh said. The

(27:35):
way that he looked today, Um, I don't think you
would know that anything was going on. And he felt good,
and so I think that's Uh. I know that I'm
gonna sleep better today. So he's sleeping better tonight. So
Rams fans, you can sleep better tonight. It seems as
though it's more of a discomfort, like you were saying, Brian,
more like an annoying thing. Uh. So hopefully he can
power through and and get through that another and excuse me,

(27:58):
a lot of people say that about me. I'm like
annoying thing. Well we do we power exactly power through that.
Another NFL and neused. The Ravens announced they're probably trying
to avoid what happened to them last year with j. K. Dobbins,
but they announced that a handful of players are not
going to be playing in their preseason game opener on

(28:18):
Thursday against the Titans. That includes Lamar Jackson, Anti end
Mark Andrews. Head coach John Harbaugh was asked if Lamar
was going to miss the other two preseason games, and
he did not answer. So we'll see if we're gonna
see Lamar Jackson at all. Obviously, his contract still in question,
so we'll see what happens. Let's go into Major League Baseball. Yeah,
your Cardinals, they are killing it. They have won six

(28:40):
in a row, that is a season high for them.
They've given the Yankees their fourth straight loss. The Yankees
are six and ten since the All Star break. Brian,
you were wondering their six and ten, but yeah, the
Cardinals are now in first place in the NL Central.
They were going back and forth with the Brewers, but
the Brewers lost to the Reds, so now they're at
the top of the n L Central. My Dodgers, they've
won seven in a row. After beating the Padres, Max

(29:02):
Munsey had a three run homer to put us up
and the Mets they swept the Braves in their double header.
In game two, Max Scherzer. He tied a season high
eleven strikeouts over seven innings. Pretty impressive. He's still going strong.
You guys were talking about broadcasters like who's who's your
top and who are the best ones? You guys got
to mention my Clippers broadcaster Ralph Lawler forty one years

(29:23):
bingo the law Lawler's law right, Yeah, yeah, forty one
years and I he was always great, he always uh
really just kind of like Vince Scully. He was his
own style. I don't know if he would get a
job now because he was not big and colorful or
anything like that. Uh So, I it made me think

(29:44):
of what you were saying with with Vin Scully. Another
fun news since we're talking about the Clippers, Tobias Harris,
who was a former Clipper. He tweeted today that he
was getting married and then tweeted right after that I
am not Because he tweeted, I'm marrying my best friend today.
That's retweeted, and then he went back and he's like, Oh,
to clarify, I'm not marrying Boban Marjanovic because you know

(30:05):
how they're best friends. So he immediately tweeted that He's like,
to clarify, I'm not I'm not marrying Boban. By the way, guys,
back to you, I know they're precious. I love them. Wow,
that's great. By the way, he's Brian Noham, Andy Ferman,
he said, what do you have to say. That's right
around the corner. We got Bronx talk great in about
six minutes from now. Let's talk about John Gruden. He's

(30:28):
back in the news. He would have started his fifth
season's read as head coach with Thursday night's game against Jacksonville. Instead,
an email leaked to the media last October, as we know,
did him in and his agent spoke recently on Joe
bucks fan dot Com said that John Gruden will coach
again in the NFL. I say, no freaking way. I

(30:50):
would say Colin Kaepernick will take snaps on the center
before Gruden returns. Agree, No, I don't agree. Really, I
think I'm not saying that routine is gonna be back.
I don't think either it's gonna be back, so like,
I don't know. It's like that's like saying I'm gonna
take cats to fly before pigs fly. It's like it's

(31:13):
neither gonna happen, right, So I I that's the way
I look at it. Cap has been out for what
is it six years now, so I don't I don't
think that's gonna happen. And Jon Gruden he's not a
spring chicken anymore. And after the whole controversy, I put
it this way. If John Drewden was having a ton
of success before and you give it some time and okay,

(31:36):
fences are mended, he does some you know, he does
some work on himself, he says the right thing, you know,
you know, how the game goes, then yeah, I could
see him possibly coming back. But he wasn't crushing it.
He didn't have this outstanding record where they're winning games
left and right at the end. I think he could
come back from that if that were the case. But
when his results are just kind of shrug your shoulders, like,

(32:00):
all right, he wasn't killing it though. I think that's
why you're not going to see the guy back. You know,
I think he's gonna sue the NFL, which is nuts.
But there was like six emails. Six of those would
taken out the emails he sent to U the Washington
executive Bruce Allen, they would leaked to the media. I mean,
certainly it was ugly the whole situation. But more than that,

(32:22):
why did he do it? I mean that's the key
question right there. It was a foolish thing to do. Uh,
and he did it on company emails, and and it's
just it's the whole situation strange. But the NFL really
has to watch themselves. But because if it's a possibility
that Gruden gets ahold of these emails and lets them out,
I mean they need to shut him up. Maybe he

(32:43):
has a content if he could get them, I don't
know how he He would be throwing people under the bus.
He would basically the only access he would have are
the emails of who he sent them to, So he'd
be throwing his own people under the bus. He'd be like, oh,
and you thought I was one what Bruce Allen had
to say here when he was respond you think I'm

(33:04):
I'm not the only one who's got a little mud
on my shoes over here, if you will, right, like
he'd be, he'd be throwing his own guys under the
bus to play that game. Well, it's taught to imagine that.
The with the emails and suing the league and suing
the commissioner. I don't think he's coming back, but I
will tell you this much, I can see him coming
back as a broadcaster. He did a pretty good job
as a broadcaster. I could see that happening. Yeah, I

(33:26):
love Gruden as a broadcaster. You know, you give it
enough time. I think a lot of times we get
stuck in the moment um. I think I've been saying
that for months now with DeShawn Watson, right, I'm not
trying to change the subject on you, but the Deshaun
Watson situation for the Browns in two, it's chaos, right,
like how many games are gonna be suspended? And a

(33:48):
lot of people can't look beyond that just in football terms.
I think this move of getting him on that squad
will eventually pay dividends, but a lot of people can't
get past two, right, And so the point is, sometimes
you get stuck in the moment to a fault and
you can't see beyond that. I think the Gruden thing

(34:09):
with the emails, that's gonna be really hard to come
back from. But you give it three, four five years,
maybe I could maybe see him commentating sometime down the road,
even though I think that's a bit of a long shot.
But the point is how you feel today could be
different the way you feel four or five years from now,

(34:29):
or you know, employers could feel differently, and that's that's
that's all that matters. Really well. I think I hear
what you're saying, and sometimes time heals old wounds. I
hear that. But with Gruden, the public really wasn't looking
at these emails. They didn't know what the emails really said.
They just know that he did some wrong emails. They

(34:50):
were bad emails. However, with the situation with the Shawn Watson,
we'll get at this big time next hour. I'm sure.
I mean this this touches really. It's just ugly what
he did, and I don't think it's gonna be it's
gonna be a permanent stain. That's not the comparison I'm making, man,
I'm saying. The comparison I'm making is you have to
see beyond just you're hearing. Now, that's the comparison. I

(35:13):
agree with that. Yeah, you're right. Well we'll get into that.
That goes there's something really big going on in August
in Cleveland and you're not it'll blow your mind. I mean,
I don't know if it's intentional, but it's happening. We'll
do that next album. Right now, it's Brian No, what's
Andy Ferman? And there's a story in sports risk a short.
People here will be arguing about it. What is it?
It's Bronx Talk Radio and it's freaking next. Let's cut

(35:36):
to the Bronx guys. It's time to channel your inner
New York here. We want to hear all the rationalities
you can spew on the hottest topics of the day.
Here's something we like to call Bronx Talk Radio, posted

(36:00):
by the Great Crisp. Now, I'm not mad, but we
are going to start about Juan Soto going to the Padres,
losing a bunch to the Dodges, and somehow the Nationals
are still supposed to be considered a relevant baseball team.
I'm not sure you're over here. Everyone. I'm always mad

(36:20):
at everyone. You should know that the Yankees didn't get him.
That I'm mad the Yankees didn't get him. I'm at
the Padres are like blowing this now, But I'm also mad.
I'm most mad at the Nationals being like, this was
a young, promising, strapping, young freaking lad over here and
you're basically giving him away for nothing. They didn't want
to They didn't sign. He didn't want to stay there,
he put it out. I know who cares, though, I'm

(36:43):
happy nothing over there. They've got a lot of prospects.
You gotta get something for the prospects mean absolutely nothing.
They had him under freaking control from any You should
should you know what? They should return the Washington Nationals
to Montreal. You do realize that one Soto himself, it's
a prospect at one time. You realize that, right, yes,
but not all the prospects become one so too, that's right,

(37:05):
But what is what is the rate to make another
one Soto? You're you're going for the mystery box, Brian
when blocks because that's your only freaking option. I'd rather
have the mystery box than air, right, meaning nothing, You
gotta get something for the guy if he doesn't want
I'm still over the plan to send this this no
good team in the capitol back up to Montreal. You

(37:26):
should be happy for the people in San Diego. It's
considered a small market and it gone all in. They're
all into win, and you gotta love that all into win.
Is they just a merely still get slapped around by
the Dodgers. They are getting slapped around by the Dodgers.
You know, there's this thing of preventing runs. It's not
just scoring runs. And the Dodgess have scored eight runs
the last couple of games. Not good for saying there's

(37:47):
two parts to a baseball game. Here, yes, yeah, you
gotta stop runs. Well, speaking of idiocy, let's go on
down south, where there's always plenty of it. This is
what passes his controversy down in the South. Right now,
you guys know about the South Carolina Gamecocks, right, well,
of course we do. So there is Spencer Ratler. He's
over there in Spencer Ratler. That's right from Oklahoma. So

(38:09):
the main controversy happening at the University of South Carolina
right now is a quarrel over the mascot and a
piece of said mascot. So you know they have a
live mascot right, it is a fighting rooster. It is
a literal game of fighting game cocks over there named
Sir Big Spur. They are on number seven. But controversy

(38:30):
has erupted between the two families taking care or raising
the Sir Big Spurs because Sir Big Spurs seven, who
is going to making his debut, he has not had
his comb removed. And according to the families, the comb
which is like the flare the rooster on the top.
If you want to have a true fighting bird, if
you want to have a true fighting gamecock, and I'm

(38:51):
using that term very carefully on the air over here,
he has to have its his comb removed because that's
a part of the birth that can very easily bleed.
Did you know that before this? Did you know what? No?
I didn't. That's how I expand my knowledge. I am sorry, Andy,
I did not come into the story with a massive
working knowledge of fighting birds or game cocks. Yeah, so

(39:13):
what is it? Surf big Spur, surf from the Big Spur,
the seventh seventh bigler get the comb. Yeah, that's a
tricky one right there, you know, because you want the
you want the legit thing is the mascot over here.
But if he's gonna be bleeding, I can understand they're
not gonna fight the birds to make the combs bleed.

(39:34):
But the idea is like you would have to disfigure
the bird, take off his comb to make him a
proper fighting bird. And I think South Carolina doesn't want
to be like, hey, we're not preparing this bird over
here to be fighting other birds. That's not gonna go
one step fither. I'm gonna look at the money aspect.
I want to check the locals on T shirts to
see if the T shirts have the bud with the comb,

(39:56):
and I think they do because most people recognize a
rooster with the flair of for its head. That's the
I think you gotta go legit and tell the overly
sensitive people to shove it. We're not fighting. We're not
fighting this look legit. That's all. Speaking of money, Bobby
Bonilla's contracts sold, the actual contract not I would love
if someone can tear up his contract, but apparently the

(40:18):
actual concerts sold for a hundred and eighty thousand at auction.
It's a deal commanded to the Honus Wagner card over
here is goodness? What was that over seven million phonas Wagner. Listen,
if someone like that stuff, I just want people to
stop doing Bobby Bonilla day. That's all I want. It's annoying,
is what is that? I don't care. You know what's

(40:40):
not annoying though? And I'm glad it's coming back. Did
you see this? What's that? Do you remember slam Ball?
I do remember slam It's coming back, baby, slam Ball
with the trampoline and everything for the for the huge dunks,
coming back next summer. Oh yeah, I remember that. Now
I'm just saying up Zion Williams's contracts sent him to

(41:01):
slam Ball. He can't. He's gonna wait contract who cares, no,
no weight on a trampoline. This story has no happy ending.
We'll get to that in just about a minute. And
it's time to say good morning America. Yes it is.
It is Fox Sports Sunday. He's Briano. I'm Andy Fermanan.
Right now, if you're coming in, if you're just getting

(41:22):
up or just getting in, is that time to sit back, relax,
enjoy little information, entertainment, whatever it may be. And here's
my guy, my partner, my friend, the one and only
Mr Brian, No, Hello, b what's up? What's going on?
Andy Furman? It's a good drop. Good timing by Chris,
because I am staring right in front of me, apple cinnamon, apple, cinnamon, apple, cinnamon, apple, cinnamon,

(41:46):
apple cinnamon. Gonna tear into that pretty soon here, Andy,
And I hear you. I hear what you're doing. I
know you know it's funny. I just happen to check
the calendar, which I don't normally do, and I'm saying, Wow,
this Friday, it's Arizona the coming to Cincinnati to play
the Benglis. It's a may it's here. You know. I
watched the game Thursday night. The Jackson willn't do much
for me, but you only just got the juices flowing

(42:08):
that football is back. But now now I know it's
really it's officially back. There's gonna be a game in
Cincinnati Friday night, Arizona and the Bengals be great. I
don't know how many starters will be playing, but it's
here and that's great. Well, that's the thing is it
really has changed over the years where and I think
this really ramped up with the Rams. The Rams did

(42:30):
this a couple of years ago where they just didn't
have their starters play at all in the preseason, and
now it's the norm. Monc was talking about Lamar Jackson.
I don't know if Lamar is gonna get on the
field at all, and they're gonna be a lot of starting,
starting quarterbacks that don't I get it. I understand it,
health especially now with the seventeen game schedule, a seventeen

(42:52):
game season, I totally understand that. I would just argue
that not all situations are the same. If you go
back to that Hall of Fame game game, Trevor Lawrence
did not have a good rookie season at all, and
so for Trevor Lawrence to get on the field, I
think that makes a lot more sense than Matthew Stafford
or Lamar Jackson. I really do think it matters case

(43:12):
by case. But I do understand the logic a the
fact that the possible injury and be you want to
take a look at some of these guys that are
free agents and to a rookies to see if they
in fact they're gonna make the roster. And honestly, now
with only three preseason games rather than four, there's not
that much time for coaches to make that decision. Yeah,
and going back to the case by case thing. A

(43:34):
lot of people bristle about preseason games, but I mean,
do you bristle about practice that you gotta get these reps.
You gotta get out there, you gotta get a feel
for it, right, especially if you're a young quarterback like
Trevor Lawrence. So if you're bristling at preseason action, it's like, okay,
but practice, you know, like it's I understand it's you

(43:57):
might not go completely live in a controlled practice like that.
You might not be teeing off on Trevor Lawrence in
practice where you could in a game. I understand that.
But chances are for a couple of series is not
gonna get knocked around until next week. He might take
a hint, maybe two. But I just think in certain
instances it makes sense to get your guy out there.

(44:19):
Think about Trey Lance with the forty Niners. If the
Niners said, no, no, no, we're seventeen game season, we
just gotta get him healthy, it's like he's gonna get
ready to play. Also, so I think at times in doses,
it does make sense to play your starters in the preseason. Yeah,
and one guy who's not gonna be playing with that
he's playing in the preseason is DeShawn Watson. The DeShawn
Watson saga, the story without a happy ending, and that

(44:41):
that's no pun right there, it's completely a pun. Are
you kidding? I know, I get it right. I'm just saying, okay,
give it a six game suspension. NFL now appealing that,
and there's a very real chance that his punishment could
get worse. Okay, let's stay with me for a second.
See if I'm on the right path here. The NFL
originally wanted to suspend it for a least a year.
Now the league is pushing that to happen, all right,

(45:03):
And Watson, he could have avoided all of this if
he had settled the case with the NFL. He had
a chance to do that before Judge Sue Robinson delivered
a judgment which is on last Monday. So here's where
it gets a little confusing in my mind. So the NFL,
how do you settle your case with the NFL? I
don't understand that. Well, he could have paid. Uh, there

(45:23):
was a fine situation, and he could have had this
thing locked up in a barrel for x amount of
games rather than go through the situation with Sue Robinson. No,
not at all. Like the NFL is appealing Sue Robinson's ruling. Right,
but it could have been done before before Sue Robinson's deal.
What are you saying, like settle with all the women,

(45:44):
set all the lawsuits, He's still gonna get punished like
he settled with twenty three of the twenty four lawsuits. Right, Okay,
I hear what you're saying. You're right, You're right about that.
So here's my question to you. The NFL gets an
obitrator and Sue Robinson correct you with me. Okay, the
NFL and nfl p A not happy with the syst
game suspension. So what happens. The NFLPA was totally fine

(46:07):
with it, the NFL wasn not. So NFL gets an
obentrator for the arbitrator. That's that. That's that's what my
mind is getting crazy here. It's nuts. The NFL is
getting an obbentrator for the arbitrator who made that decision.
That's where we're at right now. Yep, that's exactly where
we're at. It's it's a little crazy, but that's the system.
That's new system. According to the c b A. It's

(46:30):
kind of strange, right where the NFL they have the
say like it's still in their favor, where they're like, yeah,
we don't like that first ruling, Let's get the second ruling,
and that is the final word. Whatever this new arbitrator
comes up with. That's the way it is. It's binding.
So if that guy says Harvey, I guess the fluty

(46:53):
Jersey Attorney General, Peter Harvey, that's not gonna be Roger Goodell. No,
it's not Goodell, but if you would be good right,
but it could have been good Dell. But he wants
to take it off his shoulder. Well if it's played,
so he's kind of appointed the former Attorney General of Jersey,
Peter Harvey, to dudes. So that and what I understand
that that Peter Harvey cannot do any internal investigation. He

(47:17):
could only use the information received by Sue Robinson her investigation.
That's right, Yeah, And so that's it's a different process.
That's why for anyone who's like, why would the NFL
p A sign up for this? It's totally in the
NFL's favor still, it's like it is, but it's a
bit better for the NFL p A because before this this,

(47:37):
you know, there wasn't a jointly appointed disciplinary officer. It
was just Goodell. It was Goodell and his team of associates,
and they would do their investigation, they would figure out
whatever information. They didn't even have to share that, and
then he made his determination and that was that. So
at least the information is out in the open. And

(47:59):
like you just said, you can't all of a sudden
redo everything. It's just what the NFL presented Sue Robinson,
And that's the deal with Harvey right now. So he's
going back off of only that information that was presented
to her. And you have to ask the question, why
would the NFL be so upset with the six game
suspicion kind of pushing for maybe a twelve game of

(48:21):
season long whatever it may be, plus a fine, plus
a fine. And I guess it's all about image and
protecting the shield. It goes, you know, the image right now,
it just doesn't look good. It really doesn't from what
he got away with allegedly got away with, although Sue
Robinson says there really wasn't much evidence. So what are
you gonna do? What do you think it's gonna happen.

(48:41):
As far as the punishment, I would guess it's it's
probably gonna be. I would say between ten and twelve
games is my hunch, and a significant fine. That's what
I think it will be. I would guess, just to
keep it easy in your head, probably somewhere in the
neighborhood of ten games ten million dollars are fine. Somewhere
in that neighborhood is what I'm guessing it's going to be.

(49:05):
You know what, I think it's definitely the season long.
I don't know how much money is gonna be. He
will be fine, but I think it's definitely could be
a season long deal. And I think right now, and
I just read this the other day that the running
back coach for the Arizona Cardinals, James Saxon, he's been
suspended with pay for domestic violence charge which happened back
in May. So you're gonna tell me that they're gonna
get rid of Deshaun Watson, who basically is a front man.

(49:26):
What I say a front man, people pay the scene
and play. No one really pays to see James Saxon
coach running backs in Arizona. Are you gonna keep James
Saxon as an employee of the National Football League and
and let Deshaun Watson go. I think what's good for
the Goose is good for the game there. I mean,
James Saxon basically did was arrested for domestic violence. So
I think this guy's gotta go, don't you think, Well,

(49:49):
there's a difference between what you think should happen and
what you're guessing probably will happen. There's a huge difference
between the two. And I go back just keeping it
with the Shawn. If the original anishment is six games,
I have a hard time seeing almost triple that. That's
what you're saying for a full season, like seventeen games,

(50:09):
that's one game away from triple the original punishment. I
just don't see that being the outcome. That's why I
would say somewhere in the neighborhood of ten to twelve games,
I could see maybe double, but almost triple that. I
have a hard time seeing that being the ruling here,
and that decision they say will not be made for
it like another two weeks, so we'll see what happens then.

(50:32):
But here's the kicker. This is unbelievable. I mentioned this
in the last hour. I don't want to bring it
to the forefront right now. On the dates of August
twenty seven, Guess what the National Association of Massage Therapists
will have the convention. Guess where it's gonna be in Cleveland?
In Cleveland? I mean, is that is that an accident?

(50:52):
Is it done on purpose? I mean, what's going to
happen if DeShawn Watson plays? You don't think there's gonna
be a little bit of a protest there? Well, but
you know where I come back to is which would
the Cleveland Browns prefer? Right? So I was reading this, Andy,
I want to throw it your way. So Charles Robinson,
he writes for Yahoo Sports, and he put these two

(51:14):
potential outcomes that the NFL is seeking. So not only
think about what the NFL wants here in terms of
a punishment, but which would the Browns prefer? Which would
they sign up for if they had a choice for
the Shawn Watson? Okay? So outcome number one is the
Shaun is suspended for the year, okay, and there's not

(51:34):
a heavy fine, and his contract will toll, meaning it's
just paused. The five year extension would kick in in
tree rather than this year, right, So think about that.
That's option two is he's not suspended for the full season.
Let's say it's ten to twelve games, significant fine somewhere

(51:57):
in the neighborhood of ten million dollars, and his contract
doesn't toll. So I'll keep it as simple as possible.
Would the Browns prefer let's say it's a twelve games suspension.
Would they prefer the Shawn is only eligible to play
five games this year and that year counts on the
five year extension, or would it be better for it

(52:19):
to be the entire season and the contract is paused
and you still have them for five years when the
suspension is over with. Certainly the latter, I do too, right,
I think it'd be better for them in that scenario
if he was suspended for the entire year, and if
he suspended twelve games, I mean the season shut anyway.
You gotta believe they're not gonna do much, you know,

(52:41):
with with the Jacoby percent of quarterback, it's not the
same situation, it's not the same team. Yeah, I think
that would count as one of the five years. Right,
You get de Shawn for five games and that counts
as one of the years. I really do think, and
it's strange to think of it like that. I think
a year long suspension if the contract tolls, that would
actually be better for the Browns. I would sign up

(53:03):
for that if I had the Yeah, you gotta keep
that quiet. That's not gonna go public, like the contract
of Kylamura. I mean, do you can't let that go public?
But I think if there's a choice, that's definitely the
easy choice. It's it's it's absolutely public. You know, everybody
would know that at the at the time. It is
that a crazy scenario though right like crazy, it's and

(53:24):
again I say it's as I mentioned in the first
style with Matthew Stafford, I hope he's not injured. I
want to see him play again. I'd love to see
the Shawn watching play. I think it makes the league better,
it makes a division more competitive because it does. But
you know, but it does deserve to play. That's the
thing is, You've got to have a punishment that is
at least reasonable. And uh, I don't know, man, the

(53:46):
opinions are all over the place. Nobody I'll put it
this way. It doesn't land well at all for the
NFL for there to be no additional fine in six games,
with the allegations being what they were, in the amount
of lawsuits that there were, it does not land well
for the NFL at all for that to be the punishment.

(54:06):
If it's stuck, that would have been horrible for the NFL,
There's no doubt. And also, I think people are gonna
throw in the NFL's face to Trevor Bower situation, who's
out of baseball for two years? For two years? You know, yeah,
I listen, I get that. But here's the thing. Not
all things are equal, you know, And it gets really
dicey comparing well, in this case, this happened, and in

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this case, these are the allegations, right, But I think
you have to keep in mind that the allegations are
not the exact same, so we can't make it out
to be as if they are. And that's like when
you start comparing the length of the punishment in the
length of the suspension, it's like you're throwing out what
the factors in those two cases are. I think you

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have to look at the factors if you're gonna be
comparing suspensions. But they're gonna be people that throw that
up without looking at the fashion and they're gonna say,
wait a minute, Tom Brady had like four games, but
putting air in football, I mean again, and you brought
this up on many times, the fact that you've got
to protect the shield, and sometimes the shield is more
important than the actual incident that happens. I mean, there's

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a difference between yeah, what what impacts on the field
versus what impacts off the field. And the NFL they're
going to be looking at Calvin Ridley got suspended for
the full season because of gambling. They're looking at what
could impact the on field product. They're gonna be looking
at that first and foremost, the fabric of the game, right.

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Um So when you start getting into comparing punishments, of course,
what Deshaun Watson was accused of matters way more than
air and a football on first blush, right, But when
you're looking at what can impact on the field more,
of course it sounds crazy, but it's the it's the air,
the air cold impact on the field more than what

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the allegations were, right. That's that's the that's the area
where people on the public will be yelling and screaming
and and uh believe me. I wish I was in
Cleveland the twenty seven to see what happens with the
National Association of Mischage Massage Therapist and the convention. I mean,
they may be picking right outside the ballpark. If in
fact he's playing and and the funny thing is that

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he's taking reps and practicing it will be available to
play in preseason games. I don't get it. And why
what's the point The suspension hasn't kicked in yet. But
I think it's interesting how the reps are being divvied up.
Where Deshaun Watson is getting the bulk of the first
reps right now, It's like, well, he's not gonna be
on the field at the beginning of the season. You

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gotta get Jacoby Brissette ready. I'm not saying don't give
the Shawn any reps, but if anybody's got to get
the bulk of the first thing, it should be Jacoby
right now. In my opinion, he's gonna be the guy
out there in week one. Why would you not get
your week one to coaching when you when you hear
about this stuff, you gotta believe the coaching staffs they
think they're delusional that they think he's gonna play. It's
not happening. I mean, he's got a six gamer right now.

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It's only gonna get worse. It's not going away. Yes, yeah,
so I don't understand how. I don't know what the
Browns are doing as far as that goes. Do you
think other organizations would would handle it the same way?
Hell no. How do you think Sue Robinson's feeling right now?
She made the decision and now they got the obbentrated
to get it to attack the obbitrator? I mean, think

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about that. It's a weird position to be in because
I disagreed with her thinking of her ruling. But it's like, okay, alright, fine,
I guess, uh, you know whatever, I'm being overruled right now.
I only spent a month of my life to try
to come to a reasonable right judgment. But fine, you
guys work it out yourselves. Whatever you know. They to

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overrule the obbitrated. It's it's unreal. Comments are welcome. Comments
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(58:24):
that's right around the corner. He is Brian O on
Andy Furman. We are Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Spots Radio,
and the public is speaking be The public is awake
and alive and well, talking about the Browns and the
coach Kevin Stefanski. He's winging to see the results of
the NFL's appeal of Deshaun Watson's six game suspension. Right now,
Jacoby percent working with the second team, which is unreal

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to me, but a lot of people have allowed to
say about that. Eli from Fresno wants to talk to
Brian Nolan Andy Furman a Fox Posts Radio. Hello, Eli,
how are you? I'm doing well? How are you guys
doing tonight? Hanging in there? Get out? So I actually
think that, uh that Roger Goodell is in a in
a tough spot between a rock and a hard place here,

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and I did I think that the whole reason why
he hired this attorney general guy is uh so that
he can almost place blame on him when this doesn't
go the way that the public wants to do. I
don't think. I don't think the Shaun Watson's suspension is
gonna be what everybody thinks it's gonna be. I don't
think it's gonna go the full year or even twelve

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games at that. What do you think it's gonna be? Like? What?
Ten games? Eight games? So so I think they're gonna
do I think, I mean, if I were there, I'd
do eight. And then I think the fine should be
a lot more significant than we're talking about. I think
you should get fined about twenty million dollars. I mean
you might think that, you don't think that's gonna happen,
but I mean, I mean, think think about it that

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the Browns did this shady business with his contract where
he's getting paid one million dollars. I think it's creative.
I don't think it's shady. I think they knew going
in I did to create of move. So so you
want him to be able to avoid all punishments for
something that he did, right, No, I I hear you. Yeah,
that's hurting them. I think that was partly why, uh,

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the first um punishment didn't stick. Right, Like, if if
the Browns didn't structure the contract that way in the
first year and it wasn't two million dollars fully guaranteed.
I absolutely think that impacts the NFL is saying whoa,
but the Browns new, the Browns new is going to
be punished with some amount of way of form. So
they did it that way. I thought it was creative,

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don't you. But you're not understanding. Yeah, but that hurt them.
But that's hurting them right now the way they structured it.
The NFL is like really no, no, no, no, no, right,
like they're they're they're not gonna just like, oh okay,
we see what's going on here. It's just it's out
in the open, right. Like, I do think that's impact
that the find is not gonna be twenty million dollars.
You can think that should be the case. It's not

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gonna be that high. Um. But the first point I
do agree with like Goodell. He can easily. He's the
face of the NFL, and so the NFL can say, well,
you know this designate, we were hoping for something harsher.
They can still play that card if they aren't getting
the punishment that they're seeking, Like, they can't play that

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card if Goodell is all of a sudden presiding over this. Now,
that's why he pointed Peter Harf. That's right, yeah, exactly right.
We've got to Michigan right now. Match in Michigan with
Brian Oh had any of the firm in the Fox
Puts radio, Good morning, Matt, how are you? Good morning, gentlemen.
So this is slightly a conspiracy theory, possibly, but just
looking at the way things are unfolding, the information presented

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in the initial case garnered a six game suspension. If
the NFL is coming back looking for an appeal requesting,
as you said, nearly three times the amount, they would
need three times the impact of evidence to have someone
else change their mind when read looking at the identical information.
So if that's the case, it would have to be
something to make it steak. And we're not gonna be

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talking so much about football. We're we're talking about a
character and the fact that it's gonna be a legal
charge possibly human traffing. Needing is where I believe so
the massage following and the thing is at stake right
now that we're discussing is the trade of money for
sexual favor, and that is also not as prostitution by
definition human trafficking. If there is something covering up and

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you're you're going to a pseudo brothel or something of
that nature. I believe the NFL might see this coming
down as they start unglayering some of this and their
concerned with the legal precedents that may be set. Also,
now this is two incidents within it was a span
of a decade of NFL players and the sage parlors

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and sexual favor. So it's just starting to uh, as
you added up, it is starting to paint a picture
of we need to punish ourselves quicker and handle this
before it gets unleashed into another realm of public scrutiny.
I don't agree with one word of that. I think
we're thinking about it way too deeply. This is not

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a This is not like one of those massage parlors.
This is not like the Robert Kraft situation where that's
the arrangement, like you're paying for an ending of the
happy variety. That's not what this is at all, So
that doesn't apply whatsoever. This is the Shawn going for

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a professional massusee trying to turn it into an ending
that is happy. That that's completely different. This is not
a human trafficking situation. This is not It has nothing
to do with right and and certainly he's gone back
on many occasions to the same woman who basically asked
him to come back. I mean, there was somewhat of

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a relationship there, so this is on the up and up.
Although what he did was wrong, and this is a
normal business. It's I mean, you and I could go
there without any fear predation that we're gonna get arrested.
But going there for a massage, right, Well, that's the
thing is. Look, if this is a professional massage and

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all of a sudden it turns into two consenting adults,
I mean, okay, like you're being adults there. But that's
the thing. These lawsuits, there were a lot of women
that were not consenting adults, and it went away that
they didn't want it to go at all. That's the
situation has nothing to do with paying for sexual favors

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or human trafficking. It has nothing to do with any
of that. Right, he did say he was going above
and beyond. That was Matt, So I think that it's
a theory that it's not it's not true. I mean,
just wheeling in a little bit, Matt, reel it in. Okay, Estevan,
you'll be next, but we've gotta go right now to
tell you who's number one on this list that will
be coming up right now. But this girl is always

(01:04:53):
number one in our list. Mons boldios with the latest guys.
I'm so Overshawn Watson, just so over it. I just
want this. I wanted to move on, you know what
I mean. Let's get let's go, let's figure this out.
Move on, Let's get the season started. Suspend him, Let's
move on, Let's do it. Oh. A lot of baseball
last night, uh, but not great baseball for a team

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that was doing so well before the All Star break.
The Yankees, they seem to be struggling. They have now
lost four in a row as the Cardinals held them
to just two hits, beating them one zero thanks to
Nolan Ronaldo, who drove in that run with an RBI single.
The Cardinals are now in first place in the NL Central.
They are no longer fighting back and forth with the
Bruise for today, at least because the Bruis lost to

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the Reds seven to five. The Phillies they pounded the
Nationals eleven to five. The losing picture Patrick Corbin. He
is four and sixteen. He is an e r A
of seven point zero two. He didn't even make it
out of the first inning. They scored six runs on him.
And um he's earning twenty three million dollars this season, guys.
I can do that for any team. Any team that
wants to pitch for twenty three million dollars and give

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up six runs in the first inning, I can do that,
no problem. The Twins beat the Blue Jay seven three.
They still lead the ALE Central by two games over
the Guardians, who beat the Astros four to one. The
Dodgers now have won seven in a row. Would they
beat the Padres eight to three? Max Month? He had
a three run homer to secure that victory for the Dodgers.
While the Mets swept the Braves in their double header

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and fun Braves story or not? The Braves Sorry, fun
Mets story. Bobby Bonny is infamous New York Mets contract
sold at an auction for a hundred and eighty thousand dollars.
That contract was kept by the agent that brokered the deal,
Dennis Gilbert. The winner doesn't just get this contract. They
also get a thirty minute zoom call with Bobby Bonilla,

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then a separate one with that agent, Dennis Gilbert. He
also gets a sideball, a game used bat from Bonnia's
personal collection, and one oh one but Bobby Boni contract
n f T. On top of all that, they get
to spend the day with Bonnilla in New York. They're
gonna get breck fist, They're gonna get a trip to
City Field. They're gonna get to watch batting practice, watch
a Mets game, and then have dinner. All in. Now,

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this is something you bet on. There you go. At
least you get all this other stuff, not just a contract,
which is pretty amazing. In NFL news, Saints fans could
be a little excited because wide receiver Michael Thomas participated
on eleven and participated in eleven on eleven drills for
the very first time in about two years. Uh Brown's

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running back Kareem Hunt. He's mad. He's mad with this contract,
so he's skipping team drills. He's expected expected to be fined.
So back to you, guys, No way, not back to
us so fast. You've said something, but you have to
answer to this that you would pitch for twenty three
million dollars you could get the job done. What kind
of a picture are you? I'm just want to ever

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done that before? No, no, no, no, no, I actually
was a pretty good picture. I pitched fast pitch for
many many years. Yeah. But I'm just saying, like, if
you guys, if the Nationals want of like dish out
money like that, I can do it. I'll even do
it for less. And I'll give up those six runs
in an inning. I mean, why don't you send them
a video? Send them a video? Really, you know, put

(01:08:11):
the money with a mouth is now a little bit? Really? Yeah,
I'll save the money. I will save them money. I
want to see this. We'll see you in an hour,
no problem. Alright, we've crossed the fifty yard line here
what we call Fox Sports Sunday. He's Brian No, I'm
Andy Ferman, and uh, you know we're talking about the
front runner right now we're talking about the Pittsburgh steal
is perhaps maybe one of the most interesting quarterback battles

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in the NFL those far, isn't Pittsburgh Kenny Pikett the
number one draft pick out a pit Mason Rudolph and
now moving to the number one slot on their death
shot Mitchell Trobinsky unbelievable, he's been number one since O
T A S. I guess the battle is nova yet,
but honestly, given a second life in the National Football League,
who knew I would not say this is the battle

(01:08:56):
of battles going on right here? Like this is like,
what are we doing? Bottom barrel betting coming up next?
This is bottom barrel quarterback battles, is what I would say.
It's it's Mr Bis, I understand. Kenny Pickett is the
first round pick. That's the only intrigue here whatsoever. That's it?
Like this three headed race of Mason Rudolph and Trebinsky

(01:09:19):
and Kenny Pickett. Who the hell cares. I'm an NFL junkie,
but they're bigger fish to fry than this. Well, look,
I hear what you're saying, but they're in a bad way.
It's a new error in Pittsburgh right now, Big Bend's gone,
got gone. It was quit in the off season, and
it puts the hands of the offense in the in
the face of a new quarterback and right now. I mean,

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when you've got three guys vying for that position, I
think it's very difficult and practice, you know, get the
revs in number one and getting used to working with
these guys. I mean, it's tough. I think it'd be
a long year for the Pittsburgh Steelers, although the defense
will be good, but I don't know how good their
offense is gonna be. Yeah, like they don't have a

(01:10:01):
good quarterback. Of course, it's gonna be a long year
for the offense. It's amazing, it really is. I I just,
in my heart of hearts, I'd like to see Mason
Rudolph get the deal. I really do. I watched him
play at Oklahoma State. I thought he was a good
quarterba I really did. And he's just had a difficult
time moving to the national football which happens to many
quarterbacks coming out of college. I I think it's too

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soon for Kenny Pickett. I just think he needs to wait.
Although they don't do that any long he got a
number one pick you want to throw into the wolves,
and they gotta do that. And I Mitchell Trobisky, I
think you know he had a shot. You know his
day is done. I think you know what he could do.
So I think Mason Rudolph, I love to see him
get the deal done. I really will not happening. I
hate to burst your bubble. Mason Rudolph is not a
good NFL quarterback. It's gonna be between Mitchell Trobinsky, who

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has had his struggles, but but was a second overall
pick at one time. They're probably going to start him,
would be my guest. If Kenny Pickett is ready, they're
they're gonna start the kid. I don't know that he's
gonna be ready come week one. So my guess is
it's gonna be Trabisky. If if it's not Kenny Pickett
that's clearly ready to take over, then it's gonna be Mitch.

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It's not gonna be Mason Rudolph. Like you'd have to
have an injury issue for that to be the case.
You might have to have both guys injured from Mason
Rudolph to start. That's that's the way. That's fine. But
I'll be reading for him holding the clipboard. That's what
I'll be doing. Here we go, by the way, as promised.
Estevan from Orlando wants to thought that Brian Owan, Andy

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Ferman Fox, but Rady Hello, Estevan, how are you? Hey?
How are you? I'm gonna get straight to the point,
please do Elliott. Elliott never even had one practice of
the NFL, was never charged, and he got six games,
and this man got at least twenty two accusations. Is

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six games for accusation was initially it was initially six
games but no per accusations. Zeke had one and he
wasn't never charged. He wasn't even in the NFL yet,
He hadn't even had one practice ship and they were
working on that six game suspension. And now this fan

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has got twenty two. He definitely needs a longer than
that eight game or six game when they're doing now,
he will get it. He'll get that. I mean. And again,
as Brian mentioned early on, it's apples and oranges. You
can't compare other incidences to to what's happening right now.
It's it's not fair, you know. I threw up the
Trevor Bauer in baseball he got two years. You just

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can't do he threw out the the air situation in
the football with Tom Brady. Every case is its own entity.
You just can't compare. But everybody's going to compare. B
that's what they're gonna do. But it's not fair to
do that. Well, yes, and well that's the thing is
you got to look at like this was a domestic
violence allegation against Ezekiel Elliott, and he had done some

(01:12:58):
other stupid things. Remember when he pulled the rawed down
from the girl in public, And like that's the thing is,
you can't just conveniently forget about what was alleged from
the first situation, right, And it's very difficult to start
getting into this comparison game. I understand that right where
you're looking at, well, there are twenty four lawsuits. They're

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actually twenty five. One was thrown out because the judge
ruled that you had to let your name be known
and one of the women said, I I'd rather not.
But there were at one point five complete, you know,
lawsuits against DeShawn Watson. Let's just stick with versus one, okay,
but playing the twenty versus one card, right, you could

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have one incident that's just as bad, if not worse
than a combination depending on what those incidents are. You
don't understand what I'm saying. It's a very odd conversation
to have, but to just automatically chalk it up to
this is just one charge, that's it, like one harmless
not necessarily a harmless charge. One could be very significant.

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And let's go one step further. I mean, people are
gonna throw at the ray Rice incidental to Look, the
problem with ray Rice was there was evidence there was
tape out of the elevator dragging the woman his wife
by their hair. I mean, there really is not true
evidence here. That's the problem. I think that's why Sue
Robinson said, look, you know six games would let it
be done, and the NFL said, no, no, no, no,

(01:14:25):
we we need more because we're afraid there's gonna be
some some eruption, if you know what I mean, And
that's what it is, I'm gonna do it. So I
don't know, Well, two weeks we'll know, we'll have the answer.
I'm not predicting because I have no clue. I really don't.
I initially said what eight I think I said eight,
it's gonna be more than that, maybe the entire season. Well, so,
I don't think it's gonna be the season. I think
it's gonna be somewhere around the ten to twelve game range.

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I think it's I just don't see it being three
times the original punishment, right, And that's what a full
season would pretty much be as close as you can get.
I just don't think it's gonna go from and that's
going from not quite zero to sixty. That that's like
going from forty to a hundred or something like. That's
I don't see that being the case. Whatever, whatever, it is,

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just gonna be an argument about it, that's for sure.
No one's gonna be happy. Not everyone's gonna be happy.
Brian know, Andy Ferman, Fox Sports Sunday, Fox sput's ready
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(01:15:33):
funny to sleep. People get my money. I'll put your
break to sleep. Yes, it is tap taken away my Man,
Good morning, guys. How are we doing good? Good man?
How are you well good? I'm doing pretty good man.
So I got some good news for you, Mr Brian.
Now you went three and two last week and Andy
Burman went two and three. So take it, take it.

(01:15:55):
You're love that good news by you. Tab appreciate that,
no problem. So is It's opening week in the EPL,
which means soccer is back in the UK. West Ham
is facing against Manchester City this morning. Will the match
in total have over or under one and a half
yellow cards? First match of the season. Uh, let's go.

(01:16:17):
Uh it's good line by you, good line by you.
I'm gonna say focused on business. The dog days aren't
just here under one and a half yellow cards? Today's
what I say. I'm gonna go over Siley Beclar's first game.
A little slopping is perhaps a little aggressiveness over aggressiveness,
I go over. Okay, right on, guys, were moving at
Texas High school football where it's great. The Louisville Fighting

(01:16:41):
Farmers are going up against the Byron Nelson Bobcats in
a pre season scrimmage. Where did you come up with this? Why? What?
Why did this catch your eye because I love high
school football. Man, alright, fine, whatever, alright, whatever you say.
Will the Brian Nelson Bobcats have over under two and
a half sacks in the scrimmage? It's up to me

(01:17:01):
and I'll say the famers will never allow that to happen.
So this is a high school football scrimmage? Is that?
What's going on yesterday? Were you gonna get the stats
for this game from their website? Man? Whoa whoa? Man?
Um proof? I am going to take uh, I'm gonna

(01:17:22):
take the over in this one. Three sacks in a
game that's doable? Give me the over here? Sound is
this live as a scrimmage? That white? Hold the scrimmage.
I'm gonna take the under. I'm switching my picks. I
don't even know if the quarterback is live. I don't
even know it's a scrimmage. Under. Give me the under? Uno,
When is the scrimmage today? That's gonna be next week? Well, guys,

(01:17:46):
now we're moving to Hawaii high school football to historical
high school programs are battling out. Next Saturday, Kailua is
facing Campbell and Eva beach Well. Kyla score over under
sixteen points against Campbell oh, easy over, easy over here,
Come on, there's no selling Kyl a little short here.
Sixteen and a half is a cinch over. Campbell has

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great defense. There's no way good defensive. Well, guys, now
we're moving to horse racing. The Grand Prairie Race has
a big person today. Have thirty five hundred dollars up
for grabs in a five horse race? How much is
up for grabs? Hundred big ones on the line. Yeah.

(01:18:30):
Well the horse name Punky Monkey, who has ten to
one odds finish in the top three? Punky Monkey? What
are the odds? Tend to one, tend to one odds,
tend to one odds, top three? How many horses in
this field? Yeah? Give me? Yeah to three? I mean,
come on, gotta be three out of five? Come on, really,

(01:18:50):
we got a shot. We got a good shot there, Yeah,
good shot? Yes, give me I hope. I think you're right. Well, guys,
win play show bet right there? You know it's underrated.
Good way to go sometimes, I hear you. Well, guys.
Next Saturday, I'm going on a date with my girlfriend
to the historical and the extremely lavish small in l
a called the Grove. Will I spend? Will I spend

(01:19:10):
under or over two thirty dollars on this cute date
with my girlfriend, which I'm kind of dreading. The question
has to be is how long have you been with her?
About a year? Okay, they'll be under definitely if you're like,
this is our second day over easy over here a year? Yeah,
I like the under on this one. Tab. She loves

(01:19:33):
a little pity for you. You know what I'm saying.
Have you, guys you have expensive taste? Tap? She does? Man?
She comes from n Yeah. What if there's like a
bedazzled black shirt there? Shout out to the corn Huskers
over there. You might spend too thirty on yourself. Man,
And she's to dinner. Yeah, it's not gonna be good.

(01:19:53):
Have you guys ever been to the growth before? It
is insane? It's and I don't plan on going there either.
It in don't Wow. Yeah, you got one more. I
think we did five that four five? We did soccer,
high school football, two horse racing, and the date bet

(01:20:16):
your date bed. I can't wait to hit the answer
to the date bed. Okay, but there was one big
question there the NFL's opening season and the preseason game.
We have the answer for you. And so much more.
Where is that gonna be? With Brian No and Andy
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(01:21:01):
Mr Brian know b Our three and away we go.
I'm here for all of it, Andy Ferman, excited about
our three changing lives and our three let's hope. So
what about our good friend Justin suck a Coop on
Twitter saying this U the conspiracy theory. People thinking uh,
Deshaun Watson is the el Chapel of the women business

(01:21:22):
are insane. He's a creep and a pervert, period, end
of story. That's what he's saying. I agree with that.
That's creepy behavior for sure, It's not human trafficking. It's
we gotta settle down. This sounds like a movie trailer,
right like that. That's not that's not what happened. Um,
so that's just calling it something that it It hasn't been.

(01:21:46):
But yeah, creepy behavior for sure. I just I wouldn't
twist it into anything more than what it was. That's
all I'm saying, right and I I second with a
tremendous sports update person mont Say Bolognos had to say,
I'm tired of it. She said, she's tired of I
am too. I don't want to hear about it anymore.
I means, well, you're in the wrong business if you're
tired of because in sports, I get that. But I

(01:22:09):
have no choice because because the next two weeks it's
gonna be ramped up even more because the decision is
gonna come out and then people are gonna be going
crazy on whatever. The decision is, good, better, and different.
They're not gonna be happy with it. It's not it's
too long, it's too much, it's not enough. That's what's
gonna happen. Yeah, And when that's one of the interesting
parts to me, is uh, the NFL. It's funny because

(01:22:31):
I don't think they're gonna get a lot of credit
for this, but they could have easily said, you know what,
we would have liked a harsher punishment, but let's just
move on. Let's just let's get let's move on from this.
We can say we wanted a harsher suspension, YadA YadA,
but we don't want to undermine the authority of Sue L. Robinson.
And we're just moving on here. And it would have

(01:22:53):
been a talking point for a week, and it would
have there would have been a huge backlash, but we
would have started to slowly, slowly looked toward the beginning
of the season, look toward the beginning of the season,
and and this is just dragging out and out and out. Now,
Like now we're waiting for the new punishment. And now
we're waiting is are they gonna sue in federal court here?

(01:23:14):
Like is this gonna be a suing type situation for
the NFL, p A and Deshaun Watson's side, So it's
it's gonna be drug out a lot longer. And you know,
the NFL, they could have just accepted the initial punishment
and moved on with life. And certainly they would have
taken their lumps. But I think that it's it's dragging

(01:23:36):
out more the way they're doing it this way, and
they're trying to get a punishment that they think is suitable,
and I don't know if they're really gonna get credit
for that, you know what I mean? Like, that's interesting
how that is. Uh, it's a strange twist of the
whole thing. And the same thing is that the punishment
doesn't go into effect till when the season starts. And
that's why DeShawn Watsons taking snaps on the first team

(01:23:58):
with the Cleveland Browns and practice and Jacoby Percats sitting
there and watching on the second team. It doesn't make
any sense at all why. I mean, he shouldn't even
be there. He really shouldn't. But you know, that's just
the way it is. That's not Yeah, it's you gotta
go by what is, not what should be. And Shahn's
in practice. I understand why he's getting some reps. He's
eventually going to be the quarterback. He's on a new team.
He needs those reps. That's fine. I'm not saying he

(01:24:20):
shouldn't get any, But who do you think it's gonna
be the week one starting quarterback. But that's fine. But
do you think it's gonna be the Shawn in week
one or do you think it's gonna be Jacoby? Kind
of okay, the Jacoby should be getting the bulk of
the first team reps. You gotta get your guy ready
for Week one. And I don't understand what the Browns
are doing at all at this stage. It makes no

(01:24:42):
sense to me. It's crazy, really, And I'm certain that
you watched that game on Thursday night. I didn't fit it.
I was out and about man. Come on, you didn't
see that Hall of Fame game, you know, like you
you get to see Josh Jacobs and backups. You know
that was the key And that was the question of
the eleven win for the Raiders, the one question why
in the preseason did running back Josh Jacobs play as

(01:25:04):
much as he did. He was playing with the B
team while Derek Carr, Davante Adams, and Darren Wall all
set uh. He was not preserved like the rest of
the projected starters. And I want to know why, I mean,
why is that happening? I mean, and you hit it
on moving from him. That's why it's happening like the
fifth year option. They drafted Zamere White in the fourth

(01:25:24):
round as a you know, obviously a younger running back.
So Josh Jacobs, who's good. You're a good player, But
we understand the way it goes in the NFL at
the running back position. Unless you are absolutely dynamic, they're
going to move on and draft a guy who's younger
and cheaper. That's just the way it goes. Unless you

(01:25:44):
are one of the top guys, like a Derrick Henry
or something like that, they're going to go the cheap
route and you can find a lot of talent later
in the draft. So this guy is a mere White.
He might be just as good as Josh Jacob's. Time
will tell, but we certainly know he's cheaper. And that's
the math. It's just economics right there, right And more
than that, let's face it, the NFL is a passing game,

(01:26:07):
not a running game. It really is. And that's the
way it is. And they got some great receivers and
Derek Carr could really shine this year. You know, he
could be in the in the and I hate to
put the kiss at death on this guy, but he
could be in the running for the m v P.
I really can't. I mean, he's got this situation really
in his favor this year in Vegas. And you look
at this team, uh, the Raiders last year, with all

(01:26:28):
the problems they had with Jon Gruden and the mess
of that team was in and everybody said, oh, with
this team is gonna go nowhere, they still made it
to the wild Card, which I was shocked. I mean
there was a lot of problems there coaching wise, internal
things like that, and they made it to the wild Card.
There's a lot of chaos throughout the season to make

(01:26:49):
it where they did. And I think they've improved, there's
no doubt about that. With bringing into Vantae Adams, that's huge.
I don't like their offensive line. I'm really curious to
see how they performed this year. But yeah, with all
the chaos with Henry Ruggs, with this situation with John Gruden,
that situation, it was just distraction after distraction after distraction.

(01:27:09):
So if they don't have those same distractions this year
and it's smoother, yeah, they might have a better season.
Really tough division, that division has gotten a lot better
all around them, So they're not the only team that's improved.
That's a gauntlet in the a f C West. But
I think that a lack of chaos like they dealt
with last year, that would be a breath of fresh

(01:27:31):
air for the Raiders this season. Let me say something
to you that would really stir the pot in your mind,
and you're gonna play smack me around a little bit
for it. Okay. I've heard commentators and I'm guilty of
this too as well. You know, using that term distraction.
Unless you basically are in the locker room and a clubhouse,
you really don't pay attention to the quote distraction. Yeah,

(01:27:54):
if a coach gets fired in mid season or manager
gets fired, yeah, DAYA two. But you know, more of
a no. Not the majority of the ball club or
at least fifty fifty want that guy fired anyway, like
them fifty percent didn't like him. So the term distraction,
I think is a term used for media people in
journalists more so than the athletes themselves. I don't I
don't know, I don't know. If you want to get

(01:28:15):
smacked around it is this like you putting it on
a t for me. I listen, I understand what you're saying,
and it's not utterly crazy you know it's not because
in football, in sports, especially football, you just Mark Slayrath
has talked about this before. In practice, if there's a
big time injury, you just move the drill like your

(01:28:37):
team might might might be injured on the field. The
guys are like, I just moved the drill up five
or ten yards. Let's keep going. Like that's just the
way the business is. You just keep moving on. But
I still think that when Henry Rugs, when he accidentally
kills someone and he's in jail and that's your teammate,

(01:28:58):
that's your friend, that is a distraction. Okay, that is
something that takes your focus off of the upcoming opponent,
and you're thinking about Henry Ruggs in the situation and
he's in jail and his life is over too, and
you're thinking about those things. You're thinking about, Wow, we
have a brand new head coach, Enriched Besaccia, who is

(01:29:20):
the interim guy, because Jon Gruden's firing off these emails
left and right. When you have a new coach, that's
a huge deal. Right. So this is not a media
creation terming it distractions, and it's not that at all.
Of course, it was last year for the term distraction.
I get what you're saying. Yes, a new coach comes in,

(01:29:41):
it's a quote distraction because he may change a tweak here,
tweak there. But when the whistle goes off at one
o'clock Eastern time on a Sunday, I think that goes
out the window. You gotta play the game. You do
what you gotta do. You suck it up. I think
if you're an athlete unless unless, and I never played
the game, and I'm I'm walking like I have, but

(01:30:01):
I have never played the game. Talking like an athlete,
I think, once you shoot it up and strap it
up and you're in the locker room, you go out
there for want purpose and one purpose only to win,
and you forget about Henry Suggs for for that game.
You forget about the coach being five for that game.
You go out there and do what you gotta do.
At that the point, and I understand that, But it's
your week of preparation leading up to the game, that's

(01:30:23):
the whole point. Yes, during the game, your mind is
on your job, what you have to do, your responsibilities.
But what can distract you during the week while you're
preparing for that can have an effect on game date.
That's the whole point. Like, you're not thinking about it
in those sixty minutes most likely, But how much time

(01:30:44):
did you spend thinking about it in the week leading
up to those sixty minutes. That's the impact. That's where
it shows up. And you think that will affect your performance,
It absolutely can. Yes, if you're focused on something else
instead of Yeah, like the Patriots, we're onto Cincinnati, We're
onto Cincinnati, Like we've turned the page. It's all about

(01:31:04):
the upcoming opponent. There's a reason why they've been so
successful because locking in like that is important. So if
you have something at play that's shifting your focus elsewhere, Yeah,
that can absolutely impact your performance. There's no doubt about that. Well, look,
I think there are certain things that could affect your performance,

(01:31:25):
and it doesn't have to be from outside the organization.
For example, this Kyla Murray situation in Arizona, I think
his contract could be somewhat of a quote distraction to
teammates number one number two, what he and his coach
are going through right now with eye motions and body
gestures and body language, I think that could be someone

(01:31:45):
of a of a distraction. There's got to be one
of two players and that ball club saying what on
earth is this guy doing? I mean really that that
that could be a distraction as well. So now your
team distractions, Like before, you're not buying into this, but
now out when it comes to dition. I agree with
you there are distractions, but I don't see them basically

(01:32:06):
hurting the output of the ball club or basically hurting
the results of a game situation. Yeah, you gotta live
with it. It's like you know what it's like, you know,
cutting yourself when you're shaving. You don't like it. It's
a distraction, but you live with it and in a
couple of days it goes away, right, And that's what
it is. OK. Let's go with your example. If you're
talking about nicking yourself while shaving, right, yes, you move

(01:32:31):
on with life, You go on about your business. But
there's a cut on your freaking face. Okay, it leaves
the market, right, So it's the same thing and aid
over and cover it up. But you have to move on.
I get that. But yes, the distractions, it's not just
the media term. Listen, some players, some teams, they deal
with distractions better than others. I think the Raiders did
a great job dealing with great distractions. But let's not

(01:32:54):
act like there weren't any or that it couldn't have
any impact. Hey, listen, sometimes distractions the teams and players
that deal with it, well, it's actually a good thing. Like,
I agree with you. There are some times where I
guess that we're taking liberties. But think about athletes that
are injured or sick under the weather, like sometimes it

(01:33:14):
causes them to focus even sharper. So yeah, sometimes distractions
or thinks that aren't in your favor actually do help
you out in a way. It just depends on how
you react to that type of stuff. But listen, Yeah, yeah,
distractions are everywhere and happen. I leave it at there's
distractions are real distractions happen. But I think that at times,

(01:33:37):
at times, I think you'll agree with this. At times,
various media people use that as a big time excuse.
For example, if something would happen on a Monday at
practice and a team gets blown out on Sunday the
following Sunday, they'll say it's because of a distraction. No, no, no, no,
I think you're looking at it the wrong way. We're
looking for explanations more times than not. This is that

(01:34:00):
the media fans, they're not in the business of well,
let's not crush them too much because of filling the blank.
That's not the way it goes, man, it's the opposite.
You're looking for an explanation. How you're like sifting through
the debris. How did this fire start? Right? Like, That's
how we're looking at it. It's not to bail them out.

(01:34:23):
It's not to say, hey, hey, hey, back off. They
had this situation to deal with. More times than not,
that's not the case. We're just looking for an explanation
as to why things went down the way they did. Right,
it's gonna quote excuse. No, it is not an excuse.

(01:34:43):
It's an explanation. Why did this? Oh it might have
had something to do with this. That's not bailing them
out and not making excuses on their behalf. No, give
me a situation where so you could clear it up
for me at least, because I think I'm looking at
us in Jacksonville Jaguars with urban Meyer, who was a disaster.

(01:35:06):
No one's saying oh okay, they're saying why were they
were they? Why were they so bad? Oh? Urban Meyer
stunk as an NFL head coach. It's not bailing out
the players. It's not saying the poor unfortunate players. It's
to say that he was a joke and that had

(01:35:27):
a direct impact on them. Thinking out loud, that's not
making excuses, it's looking for an explanation. Right. But are
you saying to me that Jacksonville lost because of urban Meyer?
And for what urban Meyer was not there, they would
have won more games. I think they were just a
bad football team. Well, I think that he contributed to
the Yes, jack there their fourteen and three and like,

(01:35:51):
but it would have made a difference, right, because a
lot of those players didn't want to play for a
guy like that. They didn't want to give out for
the guy that was the problem. I you are you okay?
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up from here to the Golden Gate. We really do.

(01:36:57):
And we talked earlier today about the late Vince Scully.
The Dodges ant at him Friday night at the first
home game since he's passing on last Tuesday at the
age of ninety four. And David from SoCal is on
the line talking about great commentators of the day, and
he's on with Brian Oan Andy Ferman a Fox Bust Radio. David,
how are you Andy, Brian? Yes. Competition. Competition is the

(01:37:23):
foundation for the entire sports world. Trying to watch teams
or individuals that have gotten real good at what they
do trying to beat each other is curious, it's entertaining,
and it's exciting. And I've been a chronic sports fan
since I was a kid back in Virginia along with all,

(01:37:44):
along with the big four that we all agree that
we liked so much. I got a couple others that
I like to stick in there before I meant to
names of people that have called these sports for us
that we've enjoyed all these years. But the boxing world,
in the NASCAR world, track and track and field, women's gymnastics, swimming, diving,

(01:38:10):
Hella Bay televised underwater ping pong. I'd probably watch it.
But guys Jim McKay, Bob Costas, Jim Nance, Mike Tarico,
Bob Yucker, Chris Berman, Chris Economackie. On the women's side,
Robin Roberts, Judy Rankin and Unlusser known perhaps Amanda Balionist

(01:38:36):
Jenner and her sidekick Dottie Pepper. And one last little
mention for my two buddies in the NASCAR world, Darryl
and Michael Walter. They're wonderfully entertaining and very in the
moment with their commentary like you two are. You don't
do the undialogue, the bore, it's all the death out here.

(01:38:59):
Congratulate for being a pretty together team. You guys, thank you,
thank you for the column that David have a great day.
You know, it's funny. I'm hearing what he's saying. Be
but I will tell you this much. I don't think
anybody on God's Green Earth turns on a TV sporting
event because of the announcer. You may bee please say, oh,

(01:39:21):
I'm watching this event, and I'm glad that he's doing
the game, But you've watched the game first and the
announcers second. That's why it is. That's that's fine, but
again it adds a lot to the podcast. No, we're
just talking about Vince Scully and what he's meant to broadcasting.
And look, you might not have tuned in to a

(01:39:41):
Dodgers broadcast TV or radio, um, just because of Vince Scully.
But he was a big part of it, big part
of it. Um. So yeah, Like I was thinking about
this too. It's just when we talk about the greatest commentators,
the greatest teams, I think that sometimes you don't have
to be the greatest, but it just fits, you know,
it just sounds like when you're talking about Pat summer

(01:40:03):
All and John Men they were tremendous, but I think
of more modern times for college football. Gus Johnson and
Joel Klatt. It just feels like college football when when
I hear those guys, you know what I mean. So
I just think it's, uh, it's one of those deals.
You don't have to be at the top of the list.
Like however, you sort out your list when you turn

(01:40:25):
on the game, or you're like, oh, good, like these
guys are on the call or whatever, like I think,
good point when you turned the game. But I I
never ever have looked at the listings to see who's
calling the game before I turned the game on. I
look at the game first. You know, on Saturday, they
have a whole plethora of games at the football games,

(01:40:47):
and I'll look down the list. Oh I like this,
so I'm gonna watch it. I don't know who's calling
the game, nor what do I care. Right, I'm sure
you did the same some of the you know beforehand,
a lot of them. If it's Sunday football, you know
who the team. If it's Monday night football, you know
who the team. There's no choice down there, no choice
on that. You're right, Hey, Knuckles wants to talk to you.

(01:41:08):
Knuckles from Virginia wants to talk to you be on
Fox Spots Radio. Hello, Knuckles, what's up? Good morning guys. Knuckles?
When you get out? When did what did you get
out of the joint? Oh? No, go ahead, I just
want to know when you get out of the joint? Yes, sir, Uh,
that's a pretty cool last name, right. Yeah. I have

(01:41:30):
the question, Uh, what if everybody I know wants to
punish the Sean for what he's done, and the NFL
would like to punish Cleveland. So what if they just
suspended the Shawn three games for his entire contract? I
don't understand what you're saying. What does what does that mean?
Three years for your entire for the five years? Every

(01:41:54):
every year he suspended for three or four games. That way,
you know everybody being funished. No, it's not gonna happen.
It's it's gonna be whatever it is at the beginning
of one shot deal and that ship. Yeah good, try good, Knuckles.
You don't even know that he's gonna be in Cleveland
for five years, that's his contract. But how would a
suspension work. It's like it's gonna be three years for

(01:42:18):
these five years. He might not be in Cleveland for
those five years. How would that work. You know, It's
it's funny, but everybody has like a different take a
different approach. It's I mean, have you would you have
ever thought of like suspending him like three games every
year for five years. I never even thought of that.
It doesn't work, but it's funny. I mean, people spend

(01:42:38):
a lot of time mulling over this Deshaun Watson situation,
like what's your idea for NFL overtime, and like, all right,
here's my idea. I'll bear with me. We're gonna have
a field goal kicking contest. We started forty yards that
it progresses the fifty yards and then six. Everybody has
this crazy idea for NFL overtime. I think the DeShawn

(01:42:59):
Watson and what should the punishment be? It's starting to
border that, right, You're exactly right. It's it's crazy and
it's going to get worse when the decision comes down.
Believe me. All right, he's Brian no On the Indie Firm.
And you thought football was a tough, physical game, think again.
That's that's the first to the next picture of the
Washington Nationals. And I'm only going to charge one million,

(01:43:24):
number twelve. Yeah, so they can save a lot of
money if they just hire me, I might not even
give up six runs in any sidewinder. Do you think
you'd do you like the submarine action out there on
the mountain. No, I don't think I would try to
do that and probably throw my elbow out or something. Yeah,
I would. I would like to do it looks awesome,

(01:43:45):
but it also looks painful. It does, doesn't it. Every
time I see I'm like, you have to be in pain.
There is no way that was right exactly. Poor guy
that couldn't couldn't keep playing because you know, we didn't
have what we have now with medicine and helping people
with their elbows and all of that. So no, no, no,
I don't want to throw a side like that that
looks like I throw my my whole arm out, guys,

(01:44:06):
and we don't want that. I'm trying to make a
million dollars here with the Nationals. Come on. Other games
that happened last night in baseball, the Dodgers, they continue
to be the best team. Their record is now seventy
four and thirty three after beating the Padres eight to three.
They beat the Padres the last two nights. Max Munsey
he's the one that put the Dodgers up with the
three run homer. Uh. The Mets, they swept the Braves.

(01:44:26):
They had a double headed first game, they won eight
to five. In the second game, Peter Lonso he had
three singles, including one with the bases loaded. So now
he's tied with Aaron Judge for the most r b
i s this season so far, they are tied at
ninety three. The Mets are thirty games over five hundred
for the very first time since two thousand and six.
The Cardinals they're just killing it too. They've won six

(01:44:48):
in a row. Or do we talk about that they've
given the Yankees their fourth straight loss. Man The Yankees
are struggling six intent since the All Star Break, but
the Cardinals are doing well. Nolan a Analo drove in
that one run for the Cardinals. They held the Yankees
to just two hits and the Phillies. They pounded the
Nationals eleven to five. The Twins beat the Blue j
seven three. They are still in the lead in the

(01:45:08):
Ale Centro by two games over the Guardians, who beat
the Astros four to one. The Angels and the Mariners
split their double header, and we also had victories from
the Orioles, the Royals who walked it off to beat
the Red Sox and the ninth Inning, the Giants who
beat the A's, the Cubs who shut out the Marlins,
and the Rangers who also shut out the White Sox
in NBA. Used in case you're wondering, guys, what Kevin

(01:45:29):
Durant and James Harden are up to. They are in
London showering Travis Scott with champagne. Just in case you're
wondering what they're doing. They're watching Travis Scott's concert and
there's video on Kylie Jenner's Instagram and they're showering him
with champagne. So they're doing great. They're not playing basketball,
but they're watching Travis Scott in London. Other fun news

(01:45:50):
that I found Chato Sinko. I guys remember him, Yeah,
Cincinnati really well chat at Josinco. He's a baller. He
um tipped. He tipped a thousand dollars on a check,
but that's not what's funny about it. He also wrote
on the check quote, I once scored six touchdowns in
Madden using myself. He wrote that on the check So

(01:46:16):
so funny, very generous, very generous. A thousand dollars, Yes, yes,
but that was funny. That is so funny. Ian Rappaport
just tweeted that the Rams have stayed in contact with
free agent wide receiver Odell Beckham Jr. So I don't
know what that means. Maybe he's gonna go back to
the Rams. He's still a free agent, Odell Beckham Jr.

(01:46:39):
We'll see what happens. Back to you, guys, all right,
have a great day. Thanks. I'm going to sleep. It's
been a pleasure. Okay, got Brian knowing your picton about
maybe ten minutes from now. But I mentioned early on
about a trophy that nobody wants to talk about college football,
and there's a different stand and when you coach at Alabama,
I guess Kryptonton, as you know, felt the SEC rival

(01:47:01):
Georgia and the national title game last year and they
did receive a trophy in their alignment and meal A
k R Called it a participation trophy. The mindset at
Alabama is different. I have never heard this at any
other institute. I've never heard it in the majors in
pro sports. In Cincinnati, there was a time if you
made the playoffs for the Bengals, that was a goal

(01:47:21):
and Alabama winning at all is the standard. That is
what you call culture. I hear coaches talk about the
term culture all the time, and I don't think anybody
could give you a true definition of it. That's the
definition culture winning. That's what the culture basically is in Alabama.
When I heard about the situation when they gave the
trophy out and he's called it a participation trophy. The

(01:47:43):
year before when when they lost that one of the
assistant coaches broke the trophy in front of the team.
That's unbelievable. That's the way they do it in Alabama.
I'm impressed. Well, yeah, that's how they roll. It's about
winning titles, roll tide. Nothing else where is that the
participle patient trophy is that in their cafeteria. I think
they have it over there. They literally have it on

(01:48:05):
display to try to motivate the team of like, we
didn't win it all last year. Basically right now, when
they lost the championship, gave the Clempson at the end
of they had a strength and condition to coach names
Scott Cochran, and he demolished it in front of the players.
I mean that's great. I love that. I mean that's
culture in my mind, don't you think well? And it's

(01:48:27):
also Nick Saban this week saying it was more of
a rebuilding year. They had Rice Young, the Heisman Trophy winner,
they made it to the national champion he's coming back.
He's back. But like the thing is, this is less
about Bama in my mind. I mean, that's just the
way they are. It's a championship or bust. Right, it

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was a failed season. They have it cranked up to
that level. But it shows you the lack of parody
in college football where Nick Saban can call with a
straight face last year a rebuilding year. It was more
of a rebuilding year. They made it all the way
to the championship game. They it was not a blowout.
They didn't lose forty four to sixteen like they did

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against Clemson. It's a close game late and it didn't
work out for them against Georgia, but they were right
in it. And so man, that's why I look at
where the NFL, the parody that they have in the league,
it's so much different than college football. You've got Bama.
They're like minus two fifty minus to sixty to make

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it to the final four, to make it to the
College Football Playoff. It's the same thing with Ohio State.
There's not a team in the NFL that's gonna be
minus two fifty to make it to Championship Sunday, to
be one of the final four teams. There's just too
much parody in the NFL. You know, I'm with you.
I think parody is good. But years ago, you know,
I watched sports as a kid. I always stood that

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having a dynasty was the way sports to go. But
I don't think people appreciate that any but they want
to see parody. And basically that's why leagues are set up. Though,
And I well, no, I didn't. You kind of smacked
me around in this one, you know. My My whole
take on the draft was that, you know, if you win,
you should be rewarded, and you shouldn't have to wait
for the list pick. You should be the first pick.
The ramp should get the first pick in the draft.

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And I know, I know, you Spock be pretty good.
I mean, I was wounded for a couple of days
after that, but I mean I couldn't walk. But the
strength of the NFL is parody. That's the secret sauce.
And it's not so much a secret, right, But you
have hope as an NFL fan that this season you
can look at the look at freaking Bengals. They went

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all the way from where they were, like, that's not
gonna happen in college football where some team comes from nowhere.
Who would be the equivalent of the Bengals heading into
this college football season, whoever it is, they have no
freaking prayer to be in the college football playoff. It's
just not gonna works. And that's what makes the league

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so so popular because you just don't know team's gonna
come out of no and maybe the Detroit Lions of
the playoffs this year. You just don't know it could happen,
and that's what makes it so great. But you know
in football right now that Alabama's going to the Final four,
probably George is going to the Final four, maybe Clemson,
maybe Ohio States going to the final four, and maybe,
you know, I don't know who else. Tennessee is supposed

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to be tough, maybe they're going I don't know, but
you know, you know three or the three or the four,
you know, Ohio State, Georgia, and Alabama they're going that's
the way it is. It is, and uh, I would
put it this way. It's the best way I could
say it is if you could, if you could make
college football more like the NFL in terms of parody,

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or you could make the NFL lack parody the way
college football is. Which would you do? Which would you do?
Of course you would make college football. There'd be more
parody where you don't know you're going into the season, like, man,
they're a good ten twelve teams that have a shot
to win it all this year. I would much rather
have that than in the NFL. Imagine if it was

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like college football, you're like, all right, it's gonna be
the Rams, it's gonna be the Bills, it's gonna be
you know, uh, Tampa that they're gonna be three of
the four teams on Championship Sunday, and and maybe who knows,
we'll figure out maybe it's a team from the a
f C West. Like that'd be boring. I love college football,
but the lack of parity makes it boring. And exactly right, yeah,

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and I always sort it's great to have like a
villain and and the team that's a dynamite team that
that dominates it. For example, in baseball it was always
the Yankees, hockey was the Montreal Canadian Celtics, and basketball
and I remember as a kid and then you know vaguely,
but if you look at the history books, it was
that way in football too. In the National Football League.

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If you look when Ali Sherman, I remember Alie Sherman
coach and the Giants they won it in sixty three,
when when there was the quarterback, they went Division champs
for three years in a row. Green Bay Packers dominated.
It's not healthy for a league to have a team
do that every year. Well, I look at this, when
you have dominance mixed with parody, I think that's the

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best formula. Um. I go back to the nineties Bulls
where they won six championships in eight years. They were dominant,
but there was also parody, like they weren't just crushing
teams en route to a title every single year. Where
there were last second shots like the last second shot
against the Sons in ninety three by John Paxson, or

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Steve Kerr his shot in nineties seven eight, the Jordan's shot.
Those are close series, Those are compelling series. So they
were dominant, yet there still was some parody there. I
think that's a great formula. But if you just have
straight dominance and there's a team just mowing through everybody,
that's just not exciting to me. It's it was boring. Really, Hey,

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if we can't let me squeeze in Joe Joe from
Nashville with Brian Owan, Andy from and Joe about a minute.
About a minute, Joe, go ahead, Hey, gentlemen, that's great topic.
You guys are hitting it head on the reason. The
funny thing with the ups and things. First, you guys,
you know, appoint to judge and then you want to
appeal her ruling. You know, the NFL at appointment to judge.

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I was fine with the six games, not with what
he did. That's disgusting, but you know, but whatever the case, um,
and the thing is, like you and the gentleman alluded
to this, so much parity in the NFL right now,
the Browns actually have one of the better rosters built
for right here, right now, ready to do it. Uh So,
you know, I'd just like to see the six games
be done with. On the college football brilliant conversation, gentlemen,

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I'm here in SEC country in Tennessee. I'm actually a
Gators fan. But you know what, college football has to
stay the way it is. And I'll tell you I
used to be a BCS guy and I'll tell you why.
Because with the BCS system, you got one bite at
the apple. If you lose the iron ball bammy, you're out.
You know, Michigan State, you lose the big one to
Ohio State, you're out. It forced everyone to take care

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of their business. If you look at the college playoff
games since the impotence format was implemented, they're all garbage.
We've had what maybe three good games out of what
twenty four one O Burday how many we've played so far.
And you know what, it's good for them. It's good
for college when I want to see USC back because
they were a good program. Not that I'm a Trojans fan,

(01:55:09):
but it's good for college football. Guys. We love the
show here in Nashville, Tennessee. Thanks so much for taking
my call, and God bless you, God bless you. Joe. Okay,
he's Brian No, I'm Andy Firman. This is Fox Sports
Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. What a way to fall
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in desperate need of gambling insights? But Brian is here
and now the time is up for picks? All right,
Andy Furman, quick recap the last week I had the
Brewers beating the Red Sox h Good news is brew

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Crew led to nothing. Bad news is they lost seven
to two. Well, I appreciate that, Thank you for that.
It didn't work out, unfortunately, I did have I took
the under eight combined runs in the d Backs Braves game.
Yes that it was one nothing game? You know, great

(01:56:43):
pick right there? Now? Is it gonna be a winning
week or a losing week? I had the Dodgers degenerate bet,
scoring a run in the first inning against the Rockies.
I don't understand that didn't work out, man, didn't didn't
work out there, Andy, But but we get right back

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on the horse one and two last week. We gotta
rebound here. I like these picks here. See if you
like him, little bit of a degenerate move. But hear
me out. I'm gonna take the Dodgers over two and
a half runs in the first five innings today. They're
taking on the Padres. They've scored runs left and right.
They've scored eight runs each of the last two games.

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They're facing you, Darvish, I say they scored at least
three runs in the first five innings. Do you like it?
I tell you why. That's just not bad, not too bad.
I would, I'd stay away, but it's not too bad. Okay,
not too bad. How about this? Jacob deGrom stut back
for the Mets taking on the Braves today. I'm taking
the under eight and a half strikeouts. He's not gonna

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be going deep in games just to have the easing
them back in. I'm gonna take under eight and a half. Good, good, Okay.
And then how about this. We're looking at Saturday the
preseason slate. A little bit of leap of faith here,
but I'm taking the Carolina Panthers plus three. They're at Washington.

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Now we know there's a quarterback battle going on with
Sam Donald Baker Mayfield, right, I think they're gonna get
time in this game. Matt Rules said he's not gonna
decide anything as far as the starter until after the
second preseason game, so I'm assuming these guys are gonna
get time on the field. I'll take the points with
the Panthers plus three against Washington because those quarterbacks, you
gotta play it beautiful. All right, What's time to go

(01:58:28):
your own way? And I got a good one for you.
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(01:58:48):
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Now they're happily married eight love grand Go ahead, my friend,
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from and how about this? Apple Bees has created chicken

(01:59:08):
wing lip gloss. How about that? They call it saucy gloss.
The collection is inspired by Applebe's most popular wing flavors.
So there are actually four different flavors, including Buffalo honey barbecue.
So obviously it tastes like that so you can look
fashionable and then you know, spice things up with the

(01:59:29):
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you want individually, you go for eighteen bucks a pop.
How about that? What do you would you wear? It?
Would wear it? I don't really wear lip gloss. That
would not be for me. I'm gonna take you to Belden, Mississippi.
There is a Mississippi man that says his pet cat

(01:59:52):
helped prevent a robbery. So Bandit, the twenty pound cat,
lives with a retired man. And uh, he says, you
hear about guard dogs, how about a guard cat? She
went crazy, Bandit did, and she alerted the man that
between two thirty and three am something was going down.
He went out. There were a couple of men. One

(02:00:14):
had a gun, one had a crowbar at his back door.
He went to get his gun. Day left, So thank
goodness for bandit letting the owner know something was going
down there. That time is up. Thank you for you's
seeing this week. I have a great day right here
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