Andy Furman and Bucky Brooks discuss Michigan's Sherrone Moore scandal, Fernando Mendoza's Heisman season, and NFL Week 15's BIGGEST STROYLINES

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Speaker 3 (00:49):
I am good? What's going on? Andy? How you doing?

Speaker 2 (00:51):
You're always good? You're the best. I'll tell you. By
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And you know you talk about where should we start.
Let let's take a big peek of what's going on

(01:11):
right now. There was Army Navy yesterday. I'm sure you watched.
It was, you know, an exciting game, but a sloppy game. Nevertheless,
since seventeen sixteen Navy wins, I thought Navy was the
better team going in. You got the Heisman Trophy and
then you got the Notre Dame snub not going to
the college football players. But the big story I think
was off the field. That has to be Michigan and
their football coach Sharon Moore and the sex scandal. And

(01:33):
before we even get into that, Bucket Brooks, before we
even get into that, I want to tell you how
much more I either respect you on going up another
level because right now I know Jacksonville is hosting the Jets.
Today's probably something like seventy eight eighty degrees in Jacksonville, Florida. Today,
Am I correct?

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Yeah, all right, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
I am waiting for the kickoff for the Cincinnati Bengals
later today playing Baltimore. As we speak, it's five degrees
with six inches of snow in Cincinnati, and they say kickoff,
it's gonna be eleven. I would never tell I don't
care how much you pay me, I would never ever
go out there and play football eleven degrease. Maybe I'm nuts,
maybe I'm a whiss, I don't know, but that's why

(02:14):
I respect you. How cold was it when you played
in your coldest game? I know you played for Green Bay?
How bad was that?

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Two games?

Speaker 4 (02:24):
Actually, I would tell you the coldest game that I
played in was the AFC Championship game, the Jackson Jaguars
versus the doing the Patriots up there. And the thing
about playing in cold weather is you can get your
mind right and focus on it. You can layer up
and do those things. But it's the decisions that you
make on the sideline. Do I get them the hot
seat do I not? Because the contrast between going from

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the warm seat to playing in the cold or whatever
can play tricks.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
On your mind.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
It's man, it's it's a mentally challenging thing to deal
with and it's not for everybody. Just tell you it's
not for everybody. And it will affect the way that
you play. Like, no matter what people say, the weather
has a factor.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
It has an impact on how you play, how will
you play.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
There's no data. I look at the game like that
tomorrow night with the Dolphins are playing in Pittsburgh. It's
gonna be probably single digits in Pittsburgh tomorrow night. That's
got to affect the Dolphins. And I don't care how
you practice. Maybe turn the air conditioners on. I don't
know what you do, turn the ice machines on there.
You can't practice for that. I think you're better of
practicing and cold, you know. I think that's the key

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because people are used to that. But going from heat
like in Miami to Pittsburgh, it's got to be a factor.
It has to be.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah, it doesn't because with the cold weather you cannot
you can't simulate it, right.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
So there's a lot of things that you can you
can do in terms of like trying to get your
team prepared.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
Like so if it's a rain game, you can have the.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
Soapy balls, you can put the balls in the buckets
of water and simulate that.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
But the weather, Nah, there's nothing you can do. You
can't break it down.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
You can put like the air conditional, but you still
can't make it feel exactly like it's will feel when
you play.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
No doubt about that, and I'm glad I'm not doing it.
There's no doubt about that. I'll be watching that game
in the couch today. However, let's talk about the story
I guess of the last couple of days has to
be Michigan. What an embarrassment, you know, to the program
to Charon Moore. I had no idea, but they said
former Michigan head coach football coach, that is Charon Moore
alleged misconduct and they said it was widely known among

(04:34):
university employees during the last not one, the last two seasons.
That's amazing to me. So he was fired on Wednesday,
And I gotta believe this. With these big buyouts right
now in college football, the fact that he lost to
Ohio State, had a kind of a poor two year
record at Michigan, they expect better. They're looking to get
rid of them, so they want to find any kind

(04:55):
of dirt they can. Maybe I'm going up the wrong
tree here, so they don't have to pay them the
buy out, and they fire him with cause rather than
not cause.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
I mean, like all of that could be true in once,
I would say his misconduct certainly did reflect it poorly
on a person of leadership at a high profile program.
When you have that kind of job, you cannot have
the missteps that he engaged in and expect to keep
the job.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
There was also a.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
Faction in the Michigan fan base that wasn't pleased with
Sharon Moore. They weren't pleased with them from the jump
when he got the job. His record eighteen and eight,
he had done some good things, but you know, like
he also had to deal with all the fallout from
the Jim Harbrough stuff, And so I think you like
his conduct aside, I think you have to look at

(05:44):
the state of the program as part Sharon Moore and
also part Jim Harborough, because Jim Harbrough skated free, but
him and Jesse Mentor and all those guys had penalties
that were thrown on them due to the scandals that they.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Had at Michigan.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
So overall, the entire football program was a bit of
a mess. It's going to hurt them Yeah, they'll be
able to walk away without having to pay him because
they were able to fire him with cause. And it's
not a good look. It's not a good look for
the university, for the athletic program, for the football program,
or for Sharon Moore.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Yeah, I'm reading a story that was in the New
York Post. There was printed last night, I guess and
Sunday editions. He says this was the worst kept secret.
This is a source said that it in that rumors
of Moore's alleged misconduct with the staffer have been floating
around for some time right now, and they say a
high level Michigan booster claimed in sham Beckler Hall, which
is the football building, it was swarming with lawyers or

(06:43):
earlier this month. Everybody in the program has known this
the last two seasons, a booster told CBS. So, here's
what's my question. Obviously he had an inappropriate relationship with
the staffer. I want to And the alleged staffer's name
was Paide Shiver. That's what they say. That's why seemed printed.
Her dad is a scout for the Chicago Bear. She

(07:03):
was like an executive assistant two more in the football office.
So if he had an inappropriate relationship. Relationships usually are
with two people. So why isn't she fired? Why isn't
paid sh shiver allegedly, Well, she's the one I'm reading.
I'm saying, why isn't she fired because she had the

(07:23):
alleged affair and it was inappropriate as well? Don't you
think she should be canned?

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (07:30):
I think all these things happen in the process, and
I think at the end of the day, everyone who
was involved in the situation will find their way on
the outside of the program. I just think that there's
due diligence that has to be done for everybody. And
you know, the thing is I refuse to kind of

(07:50):
like point her out because we don't know, and I
think it's unfair if we're pointing to her and she's
not the one or whatever. But I think there's a process,
and I would say that Michigan probably bungled the process
in terms of like how you do it from an
HR standpoint. But I think eventually anybody who's involved in
those things will ultimately serve the ultimate consequence.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Hey, look, I don't care who you are. I don't
care if you're a diehard Ohio State fan, and you
nearly despised Michigan. You got to feel sorry for the school,
the program, and shron Moore. I mean, obviously he made
a mistake, a tremendous mistake. His career is probably down
the toilet right now. But you know, it looks to
me from what I'm reading, he's got some mental issues

(08:35):
because he said he wanted to commit suicide in front
of this alleged victim, this woman, And I don't want
to mention your name again because it may not be her.
So you know, it's just a bad day for college football.
It's funny because it kind of surfaced and it took
away all the good things that were happening this week
in the game of football. There's no doubt about that. Now,
let's go one step further. Let's talk about college football.

(08:58):
Let's talk about not Your Dame. Stop the crying for
Notre Dame. All right, and you hit it on the
head last week prior to the college football rankings, which
was Sunday after our show, they lost to Miami. During
the season, this schedule was weak, to say the least. Okay,
they're not in the conference, no bowl game. Right now,
they're not going to go to a bowl game, and
I think that's weak. They think they're elitists right now,

(09:21):
Who in the hell do they think they are. They're
saying they're not gonna play in a bowl game. I
get it, both games aren't that important right now, they're
not the popular players are afraid to get injured for
fear of not being able to be played next year
in the pros. But still, in all I just think
it was weak that basically they just said, ah, you
didn't take us to the football players, we ain't going
to a bowl game.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
I would say that there are a couple of things
that happened, and my fear was this was going to
happen on a major scale, not just Notre Dame. But
I think Notre Dame is kind of like the tipping
point for what's going to happen going forward. Notre Dame's players,
once they found out that they weren't going to play
in a couple football playoff, they didn't find value in

(10:03):
playing in a bowl game.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
That amounts to nothing.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
So all of those players that have helped him make
this run to finish ten and two or whatever they finished,
they weren't gonna have the same team going to the
bowl game.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Now, Marcus Freeman could have taken the other.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
Players that elected not to opt out and played, but
it wasn't gonna be the same team.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
You couldn't create the same dynamic.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
And in a way, you have that, and you do
have the Notre Dame brand taking their ball and going home.
And so there were a bunch of factors that play.
But I really believe the true essence of why they
didn't play. All the guys that were gonna be stars
to Jeremiah Loves, the other high profile players that have

(10:47):
legitimate shots of going pro, they weren't gonna play in
the game, and so it wasn't gonna be the same
kind of team.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
And so they just didn't want to put that brand out.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
To right, and they set up a pretty decent bowl
game against Prettgham Youngist. They was, well, you had the
Big twelve. Would have been a pretty good bowl game,
Brigham Younger Notre Dame. I would have liked to see
that maybe a better some of the playoffs games in
because I'm gonna see a rematch with Oklahoma Texas. Aren't
they playing Oklahoma Alabama they played earlier in the season.
I don't want to see rematches to get in the playoffs.
I think that's wrong. They got to redo this thing.

(11:17):
I mean, I understand in years past when I had
four teams to fifteen really was standing on his head
and screaming and say let me in. I deserve to
be in. There wasn't that much of the screaming this
year with twelve teams. However, I think that the brackets
are poor and more than that. And you hit this
on the head as well. Why is James Madison and
Tulane in there. They're a different animal. They've been on

(11:39):
the same level as these teams. Get him out of there.
Maybe Vanderbilt should have been in there with Noja Dame
instead of James Madison and Tulane.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
I mean, that's a completely separate argument, like James Madison
and Tulane being in there with the big.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Boys or whatever.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
Like I love the succuss they've had, but in a
perfect world, you would have a power for Tom and
then you have a group of five tournament and let
those teams like duke it out because I just don't
see a situation where it's a fair fight for a
group of five facing the power Forward just the resources
in those things.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
But that part is what it is.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
When it comes to Notre Dame and those things, it's
just a very very difficult choice. And we always get
hung up on those who get in and those who
are left out. And the situation with Know the Dame
and why they had to sit out is they had
to head to head matchup with Miami. They came up short.
Even though they ran ten straight at the end of
the season. The games that they played against the high

(12:34):
profile teams Texas and m and Miami.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Respectively, they lost both of those games. And if all
we can.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
Judge you on are those high profile games, then I mean,
it just makes it hard. It makes it hard for
us to say, hey, you definitely deserve to be in
when you don't have enough notable, notable wins on the resume.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Right, and you talk about a game yesterday, I talk
about that note, that Army and Navy game. You know
there's something about that game. You don't even care what
the records are are. You know, there's such excitement around
that game and you see the fans in the stands.
It's just so it's a wonderful game. And again, as
I say, it was sloppy. There was some turnovers over there,
But honestly, at the end of the game, I think

(13:12):
Navy's obviously the better team, the twenty second rank in
the country, and they're going to play in the bowl
game against the University of Cincinnati. I think January second.
That game is seventeen sixteen. It was the game. But
do you the question I had watching that game and
we talked about nil Do those academies do those players
get nil money? Do you know anything about that? I
was curious about that. I didn't think they would.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
No, they can't. They can't get it. If you're in
the academy, you can't get nil money, none of the
revenue share or anything they're they're forbidden from taking that.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
So how difficult is it right now? I mean it
was difficult in the past, I would think, because you
have to make it, what an eight year commitment to
be in the military to go to these schools. But
how difficult now is it to get a decent player
to go to the Air Force, Army or Navy and
play football.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Look, it's a challenge, obviously, it's a challenge for them
to get players. But what I love about that game.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
Is just the purity of it, like it is a
game that you talk about throughout the records and all
that other stuff.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
They're just playing. I mean, they just love the competition.

Speaker 4 (14:19):
It's a rivalry, but this respect for each side. It
doesn't matter how they come in. It's always going to
be a game like we saw. And the game has
some ebbs and flows. Army was controlling the game for
most of it. A turnover that nyve get it back,
they win.

Speaker 5 (14:38):
But.

Speaker 4 (14:40):
Look they had multiple fumbles that didn't go there where.
It was just a great game to watch. And then
the pageantry, the theatrics, all of that is exactly what
you want to say.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Okay, now I'll ask you is I think it's rather
rare when you see someone for the Academy sort of
making it in the next level. Do you see anybody
in that game yesterday going to the next level playing
in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
There may be a person or two, but I mean,
I can't say that I can see anybody that'll be
a standout right now, that'll be.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
A top pick.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
But you may see a guy or to kind of
find their way, and they are loosening the rules on
some of that stuff where they can't have an opportunity
to play, and it won't before they had to like
play while serving their commitment. They've made some tweaks to
the language where they can give these guys some waivers
where they can go participate and then at the end

(15:29):
of their professional careers they can go back and serve
serve their duty.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Okay, I watched the Heisman Trophy show. I think it
was a give and you know who's gonna win it.
But I was so impressed with the full finalists. I mean,
they came out there, they spoke eloquently that they were
just true gentlemen. You know what I'm saying. They were
just good guys. Their parents were there, talking to the parent.
I was blown away. And then when I heard the

(15:54):
Fernando Mendoza speech, I mean, to me, I mean, off
the cuff, I mean I almost cried. I'm not kidding you.
I mean the way he just honored his teammates, his coach,
his mom, I mean, and then his grandparents were there.
It was amazing. I was so taken back. I mean,
they gave it to the right guy. They really did. Now,
you could have made an argument a little bit for

(16:16):
Diego Pelvia because what he did for Vanderbilt. But you
got the number one team in the country, you got
undefeated team in the country. You know what he did
to Indiana. You know, hands down, Fernando Mendoza how to
win the Heisman.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
Yeah, you know it's funny, right because I was doing
a thing. I had to write a thing for Fox
on Fernando Mendoza as he projects to the pros. And yeah,
he certainly had some great moments, some signature moments in
those things. If you look at his stat line, you'd
be surprised to know that he only had one three
hundred yard game. Most of his games were right into

(16:52):
two hundred yard range. He had thirty three testdowns and
only six interceptions. But he caught you with these big
play moments, right, So the big play moment against Penn
State down in the gold line he lays one up
for Omar Cooper, the fade ball that he throws down
the sideline against Ohio State to kind of seal the deal.

(17:13):
He had a bunch of those splash played moments that
captured the attention of voters in those things. But if
you ask me who did the most with the least,
I would say Diego Pavia taking Vanderbilt from a relative
unknown to putting him on the cusps of being a
playoff participant was remarkable. You know, so both guys certainly

(17:35):
deserved their prosest. But I certainly understood why Fernando Mendoza
won the Heismotrophy for the things that he did in
what Indianda's accomplished.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
I'm surprised that there's never been a tie for the
Heisman Trophy. Unsurprised in that because you talk about Pavia,
I mean what he did through for almost thirty two
hundred yards twenty seven touchdowns. But more than that, Vanderbilt
wins ten games for the first time ever, six wins
of those in the Southeastern Conference, and they for for
years they were a doormat in the SEC. He made

(18:03):
them relevant. Right now now, I don't know if a
coach is gonna leave. There's some rumors right there to
you about coaches leaving. What about Notre Dame. They're talking
about him going to the New York Football Giants, leaving
Notre Dame for the Giants. You know what, I think
Notre Dame's a better job, I really do.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
Yeah, I don't want I can't see that. Yeah, I
can't see that. I don't I just see him as
as a college coach. I just can't see. I just
don't see that.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
Like, and pro football is so validle Like, why would
you why would you jump into that frying pan right now?

Speaker 3 (18:34):
Yeah, I just don't see that, right.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
I just think this this relationships built in college a
coach to player. Uh, you could talk about things, schoolwork,
your relationship, you have a girl friend, whatever it may be.
I don't see that in the pros. I think it's
two cut and drive. It's like a business. You're going
to work. You're going to the office today, you know,
coach calls you in, here's your assignment, here's a play sheet. Boom.

(18:58):
It's a different animal. And I look at like a
guy like Jim Harbar, he's been back and forth. I
think it's difficult, I really do. But I think it's
easier probably going from pro to college than college to pro.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think that may be the
easier way.

Speaker 4 (19:17):
I don't know if there's a easy way, because they're
two completely different games, right, and two completely different program
structures that you have to run. So yeah, I don't
know if there's an easier transition from one to the other.
I just know they're completely different games, and it's hard
to make the transition either way because you've seen people
struggle going up.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Or coming down. It's just different lives, two different lives.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
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but with your permission, this Heisman trophy. Last night with
Fernando Mendoz are winning it. We got to hear part

(21:53):
of the speech because he was so it was wonderful.
I want to hear Fernando. Go ahead, Fernando. It's a
little bit.

Speaker 7 (21:58):
Now, this holding this bad boy representing Indiana University still
doesn't feel real. If you told me as a kid
in Miami that I'd be here on stage holding this
prestigious trophy, I probably would have laughed, cried like I'm
doing now or both, because this moment, it's an honor.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
It's bigger than me.

Speaker 7 (22:22):
It's a product of a family, team, community, and a
whole lot of people who believed in me long before
anybody knew my name. To the Heisman, trust, voters, legends
standing behind me, and all who cherishes award and what
it stands for. It's a privilege to join this fraternity.
You have my deepest respect. I promise to carry the

(22:42):
Heisman name with humility, gratitude, and with responsibility.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
How do you like that? I mean, and he did
say that he's going to keep the trophy in Bloomington
at least for a year, because it wasn't his trophies.
For everybody's, the schools, his teammates, coaches. I thought that
was wonderful. I mean, it's just id the speech. I
just was taken back by it. I just couldn't believe it,
could not. But now let's talk some business here. Okay,
Buffalo Bill's nine and four at the New England Patriots

(23:09):
today eleven and two, one o'clock kickoff Eastern time, and
now we're gonna find out Bucket Brooks early and truly
if the Patriots are for real, take a good hard look,
because they've only beaten three teams with the winning record.
It's not their fault, it's a schedule, but that's the facts.
The facts of the matter are, they've beaten three teams
with the winning record. Now they're playing somebody pretty good.
And back in Week five they played the Bills. That

(23:30):
Bills beat the Patriots twenty three to twenty and by
the way, in that game, they turned the ball over
three times. So obviously I think the Bills are a
better team. But again you're talking about whether factor that
could be a big factor in New England today. What's
your take on this game? On the Patriots for real?
Because again only three three teams are winning records are
on their schedule.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
I think the Patriots are for real. I think the
quarterback is good and right.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
Greb does a great job of understanding how to navigate games,
games and manage games to put his team in a
position to win. So this will be an interesting one
to watch to watch play out. But look, I think
this is the one that legitimizes them as a contender
because to me, they're the better team. They're more talented team,

(24:17):
and I think they show it today.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Well, let's talk about this. In the last five games,
the Buffalo Bills have had twelve turnos. You can't play
that way. Championship teams cannot play that way, Okay. Stefan
Diggs the Patriots wide receiver. He had ten catches in
Week five against the Bills for one hundred and forty
six yards. Again, I took about the weather, and I
think the weather factor will help Buffalo's running game. Maybe
I'm crazy, I think it will because I think it's

(24:40):
hard to pass when you have wins and snow so
I think the run game and basically Buffalo has their
running game.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
I mean, yeah, they have the running game, but like really,
when it comes to Buffalo, Buffalo's a one man show.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
It is the Josh Allen experience.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
And as much as they try to kind of minimize
that not make it so much about number seventeen, the
only way that they're able to get these things done
against top teams is he has to go into the
phone booth and come out with the cape and show
all the all the super heroic things that he can do.
And that's that's what's gonna have to take place in
this game. They have a good player in James Cook,

(25:16):
but outside of that, if I mean a blue chip
player in James Cook, but outside of that, they don't
have a lot of blue chip guys, a lot of stars.
And so this is a team that has to do
it collectively unless Josh Allen does it.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
As, you know, a one man show. To me, I
think he has to do it as a one man show.
The problem is you have a defense.

Speaker 4 (25:33):
That man they feast on like bad decisions and they
get around the ball and they do a good job
of running to the ball and doing all these things.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
It's gonna be a tough It's gonna be a tough thing.
But if anybody can do it, Josh Allen can do
it because he's done it so many times for the
Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Yeah, I want to talk a little bit about the
run game, which obviously everybody wants to put in the backseat.
But really and truly, especially in the weather gets cold
like this, you really need a running game. I mean, obviously,
teams that win got to have a run game, all right.
Two teams that have been somewhat successful this year obviously
Buffalo and they got James Cook. But I'm talking about
Indiana the Colts, the Indianapolis Colts. They got Jonathan Taylor.

(26:12):
Compared to me, the styles they're running styles between those
two running backs, are they similar? Who's better? Why are
they better? What makes them so good? And why they
lead their offense on each team? Jonathan Taylor and James Cook?
James Cook the third excuse me, I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
I would say the difference is Jonathan Taylor is a
guy who has everything like big, fast, physical, great vision,
can cut back, you know, it can take a heavy
workload and just gets better and better with more carries.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
And James Cook. James Cook is crafty.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
He's terrific in and out of the backfield as a
runner and receiver. He has home runability. He's a natural
cutback runner with great vision. What he does for the
Bills is he's not only an option run the ball
inside and outside.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
But he can catch the ball out the backfield and
make things happen.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
Jonathan Taylor is more of the a man. I'm an
run it, run it runner and eventually I'm a pop
in some of his games where you've seen he's had
explosive games where he's at over two hundred yards and
then he has some games that are a bit pedestrian,
but he gets going, he's gonna produce big runs and
you just have to make sure that you're discipline in filling.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
The gaps on him. Both are very, very good, but
they do it with different styles.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Okay, so you're you're a general manager personnel director. You
have a choice to get either one. Who do you
pick on your team? Or is the offensive line a
major factor as to which of these running backs you picked?
Because you know, I see for years, the last several
years Philadelphia's had a great run game simply because their
offensive line is three hundred pounds plus. This year is
a different story, and Saquon Barkley certainly not having the

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area last year.

Speaker 4 (27:52):
I would say with Saquon Barkley, their offensive line is
not what it's been.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
They have not played up to the standard.

Speaker 4 (27:58):
You know, Lane Johnson going out at injuries that have
that have certainly impacted the offensive line and.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
The play caller.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
You know, they're just call them a different game that
they've called in the past. Sakwa Barkley is still as
good as advertised. The explosives to burst, all this stuff
is still there. It's just that they haven't been in
sync offensively, and sometimes the shuffling at the line of
scrimmage can do that. So the offensive line is certainly critical.
But if I had to pick one, I'm pick Jonathan
Taylor all day, every day, just because of the way

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he runs.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
He's a physical runner who can do it all. I'm
gonna build. I'm gonna build the offense around here.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
I love that runner who was nominated for Heisman from
Notre Dame. I think he's great. I mean love, I
mean how oh man, I mean the hurdling that he
does or twisting the turning. Uh, how how well will
he do at the next level? Because I think he
will do well at.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
The next level.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
Well, he's the top he's the top five talent. Now,
I don't know, because running backs sometimes can get dean.
I don't know if he will be a top five pick,
but he should be. He is terrific with the ball
in his hands. He does everything that you want to see.
He can grind it out and.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
Get the tough, dirty yards, but he also has that
home run power that everyone wants in the backfield. He's man,
He's good.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
He's his advertise best, one of the best run backs
we've seen come out in the last few years.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Now, the question I asked coming into the sinema, where
was the all season long? I'm talking about the Falcons
twenty nine to twenty eight went over the Bucks on Thursday,
and I normally wouldn't even care about this game. However,
the story is Kirk Cousins. I couldn't believe I mean
Kirk Cousins, I mean forgot about this guy. For the Falcons.
He was thirty for forty four three seventy three, three

(29:38):
touchdowns all to Kyle Pitts Sr. And now you got
to say to yourself, where was he all year long?
And maybe they should have played him? What is this
do now for the Falcons? What does this do for
Michael Pennix Junior? I mean, you gotta be shocked with
Kirk Cousins. He looked like he was playing for like
three four years ago.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
Yeah, I mean that was part of the reason why
you paid Kirk Cousins, why and drafted Michael Pennix. You
wanted to make sure that you had the quarterback position solidified.
And a lot of people have taken the Falcons to task,
but in this moment, it worked out for them. Kirk
Cousin bounced back. He gave them exactly what they needed.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
He made some plays, He's terrific in the pocket, He
did all those things. The problem with Kirk.

Speaker 4 (30:18):
Cousins is he hasn't been consistent enough as he's gotten
older for the Falcons to be the guy that they
wanted him to be. First, he was coming off the
injury last year, didn't look the same, and then this
year he's gotten a chance and it took a little
slow start for him, but like he got it going
and I think if you're the Falcons, the best thing
that you can hope for is that you finished with
a bang and somehow you're able to hold on for

(30:42):
another year.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
If you're Raheem Morris and then kind of figured it out.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
You know, you look at that Falcons team and one
of the bigger disappointments. I think between the Falcons and
the Minnesotavikers, they may be the two bigger disappointments this
year in the league. They're five and nine right now
after that win. But that game, although they won, they
had what nineteen penalties and come on, I mean they
were down twenty eight fourteen in the fourth quarter and

(31:09):
they beat Tampa Bay and that hurt Tampa Bay big
time for players. I mean a bad loss. I mean,
you can't say anything else. How do you win with
nineteen penalties? I don't get it. How does that happen?

Speaker 3 (31:22):
Yeah? I like, it shouldn't happen.

Speaker 4 (31:26):
You shouldn't have that, meaning self inflicted misus and still
be able to survive.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
But somehow they were able to do it.

Speaker 4 (31:31):
Yeah, it's uncommon that it gets down like that, but
they were able to do it.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Okay, now I'll run this by I watched these games,
I don't watch it with the same aye you do.
You played the game, You're right about it. You're wonderful
doing that stuff, and you're a knowledge of football. And
I love talking to you about that because you always
helped me out and tell me what's going on. You know,
when I see penalties, when I see like offside, you know,
and the snap and they take those stupid I mean

(31:57):
to me, that's just repetition in practice, isn't it? Or
does the crowd factor the noise is that? Is that
the reason why they have the premature snaps at times?
I mean, I don't understand how you can make those
those mistakes time and time again, and the same team,
the same teams do it all the time. I see
the Bengals do it all the time, you know, offside, offside.
I mean, it's just maybe they don't practice it enough

(32:20):
or they're not that smart. I don't know. I don't
I can't answer the question. The only excuse I could
give is that if they're playing a game away, the
way crowd is affecting them when they can't hear the
snap call, I don't know. I have no answer.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
Sometimes crowd noise plays a factor like on the road. Obviously,
other times it's just a lack of concentration. They just
don't concentrate on the count and they just flench, you know.
But it's one of those things that it should never happen.
We should never have pre.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
Stamped penantes that are under our control. We know the
snap count, we know the alignment, we know all those things,
like we should we should be clean in those areas,
and when we're not, is a concentration left that we
need to be able to control.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Okay, am I crazy by saying this? I see it
more in the pros that I do in college, and
I don't watch probably as many games as you do,
but I don't see it that often in college. I
see it much more in the pros.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
Like maybe the crowd stuff and maybe there's so many
things going on, because I will say in college, like
you have so many changes, so many audibles, so many
adjustments that the quarterback is making that sometimes you can
get a little jumpy in your stance, you know, because
you're in that stance for a long time.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
I can't verify and say that it's more common in
the pros than in college, but I will say I
can understand why.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
It's just the Rockets environment and the amount of responsibilities
that are heaped on the offensive line in terms of
understanding how past protection changes, how plays change in those things.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Okay, when you played the game, how often do they
go over that and practice? I mean you have to
drill it every day. I would think over and over
and over again until you see it in your sleep
and you don't make that mistake. And what does a
coach do when you make that mistake? Have you seen
coaches just go ballistic and go crazy on the sidelines.
I don't see that often. I could see in Detroit

(34:20):
Dan Campbell going nuts when that happens. You know, certain
coaches have that explosiveness. I don't see that happening. And
Cincinnati with Zach Taylor, I just don't see it. It's
almost commonplace, it's almost expected. I really see that, I
really do.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
I would say that people talk about it every day,
you coach it every day. I just want to convey, like,
there's so much information that are given to the quarterback
in the huddle, and you have two full play calls
that the quarterback has at his disposal. Sometimes he has
to kill one, so you go to the other and
then the other may have an adjustment, So there's a

(34:56):
lot of communication going on, and for someone in their
stance with their hand down processing, all of that can
make them a little nervous and a little jumpy, which is
why they would jump off size or do some of
the things that they do.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
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(35:51):
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my man, Brandon Night, are you ready to handle as
Bucky today?

Speaker 5 (36:26):
Yeah, let's do it.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
Let's do it.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
It's good, It's all yours, my man, go ahead, all right,
we got to call her.

Speaker 5 (36:32):
First. E Dog has a question for Bucky called in
e Dog, What is your question for Bucky?

Speaker 3 (36:38):
As a matter of fact, I have two questions.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
My first question is do you think that Dallas Cowboys
who rise to the.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
Occasion and when the division passed the Eagles?

Speaker 3 (36:51):
No, I don't think.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
I think they messed up their opportunity when they gave
away a game. I think the Eagles will find a
way to correct the course and they'll win.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
I think the leader is insurmountable.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Okay, do you think Beagles can cover against the Raiders.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
What's the line.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
I think it's twelve and a half.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
That's a big line. I would saying, No, I've played
under on that. That's tough.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
Twelve twelve man, twelve and a half points and pros.
That's crazy. No, I would take I would take the Raiders.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
On that one. Did you even hear the lake nin
drug tester?

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Who miss selling? What do you say?

Speaker 3 (37:33):
I don't know what.

Speaker 5 (37:35):
I don't know he got, he got his points, he
got his points.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
I don't know what the last one.

Speaker 5 (37:42):
I have a question though, for Bucky all Right, how
did Sharon Moore's record affect his Michigan fire Because it
seemed like for a long time. I know his actions
were obviously inexcusable if they're proven true, but for a
long time it seemed like there was some uncertainty with
him ever since Harball left.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
I think they played a part in it, and it
was crazy is I think he was eighteen and eight,
he had one win over Ohio State. I think that
was probably more of the case. I think there were
people that never wanted him to be the head coach.
More so than anything, he gave them right with his
misbehavior to get rid of him, but I always felt
like there was a faction of the fan base that

(38:20):
wasn't fully on board with his hiring after Jim Harpart left.

Speaker 5 (38:24):
Okay, in the Philadelphia Eagles, they've lost three straight. E
Dog brought this up, but why why have they lost
three straight?

Speaker 3 (38:33):
Well, they lost three straight because I don't think they
don't have an identity on offense.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
And if you can't figure out who you are, you're
kind of wandering around. You have a j Brown who
was I mean like sending these cryptic messages for a
long time about being getting touches and involved. And so
the last three games he has one hundred yards and
they've lost each of them. This is a team that
has always been better when they run the football. First,

(38:58):
he goes through Saquon Barkley and Jayalen Hurst as a runner,
and then the people feed in the passing game.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
They need to get back to the formul in the blueprint.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
I may just for one say, I've been watching HBO
in the season the NFC eastne Nick Sirianni was not
talking about it. Seems to me like he's just a
stubborn ass. Really, he won't change. I mean it doesn't
bother him. I mean they talk to him about the
loss I had against Dallas and whatever it may be.
But still in all I mean, I listened to Nick

(39:26):
Sirianni and I'm saying, you got to be more flexible, man.
I mean, there's a problem there and you're not doing
anything about it.

Speaker 5 (39:33):
It seems like the locker room also might be like
provided on Jalen Hurts's leadership and others. Just from what
I've seen, obviously I'm not in the locker room, it.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
Seems Yeah, it seems like there are a lot of
things going on in the locker room, you know, between
aj Brown, Jalen Hurts, how people perceive Jalen Hurst, all.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
That other stuff. But I do know this.

Speaker 4 (39:54):
I know Jalen Hurst has won a lot of games,
and I know typically the quarterback is the last guy
to be the fall guy. If they're issues, they can
give rid of the other guys that they perceive they
have issues rather than the quarterback because it's so hard
to find a quarterback.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Can we get one more in there? Brandon? One more?

Speaker 5 (40:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (40:10):
Mark?

Speaker 5 (40:10):
We got for forty seconds?

Speaker 2 (40:12):
All right?

Speaker 3 (40:13):
Quick?

Speaker 2 (40:13):
One?

Speaker 5 (40:14):
Bengals QB Joe Burrow said, why play if he's not
having fun, what does he mean by that?

Speaker 4 (40:21):
I think he's been a little poudy just because the
team is losing, and it's only fun when you win
in the league. It's too hard to prepare and to
do all the other things if you're not getting a
result that you want.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
He's just being a powdy guy.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
That's all I got the answer to that question. You know,
he's been bengalized. When you play hell long enough, like
Carson Palmit, did you become what we called bengalized? And
he's bengalized right now. That's what he is, all right,
Bucket Brooks and athy froman And by the way, have
you ever heard of this term? We'll explain it and
so much more where Fox Football Son. They're coming up next,

(41:00):
all right, one quarterback could be watching the playoffs on
TV after today. We'll get to that in just about
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here we go, mister Brooks, I got a quick question.
I had a leftover question from as Bucky. I need

(41:42):
the answer to this. I want to know why James
Madison University JMU and Tulane are playing in the College
football Playoffs. You gotta help me out there, because there's
no cinderella team in the college football playoffs like there
is in basketball. I remember several years ago when Saint
Peter's in New Jersey be Kentucky in the first round.
That doesn't happen in football. There's no way on God's

(42:05):
green Earth, these schools are going to advance. So why
are they there?

Speaker 4 (42:11):
Because they're the best representatives in the group of five
and because the ACC did not have a ranked.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
Champion ahead of those guys. That's why they go.

Speaker 4 (42:22):
When Duke knocked off Virginia, it put those two teams in.
Tulane was already in, but it put JMU in. So
that's why JMU will go to Oregon to take on
the Ducks.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
Vanderbilt should have been in there, There's no doubt in
my mind, and putting Vanderbilt Notre Dame would have been
a bit of tournament. Get those two guys out there.
I mean, I hope they change it. I mean, I
understand they want the Group of five, but really and
truly they should have their own tournament. Then it's a
different caliber player. Don't you agree they shouldn't be there?
You know, it's like apples and oranges that'll mix.

Speaker 4 (42:54):
I completely agree with you, and I think it's something
that would love to see. I think the Bowl Game
games are point as their moneymakers for TV, but I
think you can do just the same with all of
the playoffs. If you just have two sets of playoffs
allowed them to run concurrently, I think we would enjoy
that more. But we just have an archaic system right
now with the Bowl Game still heavily involved, and so

(43:17):
that just makes it hard.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
All right.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Now, let's get to the NFL's a couple of games
right now that Dolphins. The Dolphins are streaking right now
a little bit at six and seven, and they're playing
in Pittsburgh, as you mentioned early on, they're playing tomorrow
night in Pittsburgh seven and four. But there's a lot
of noise surrounding the Pittsburgh Steelers, obviously the number one
in the AFC North. But coach Mike Tomlin, honestly, this
noise gotta stop. There's seven and six, as I mentioned,

(43:41):
they're at top of the AFC North, and they beat
the Ravens and Aaron Rodgers and he had his first
rushing touchdown since the end of twenty twenty two. That's
what the Steelers did last week. So I wonder if
Ben Roethlisberger is going to apologize to Mike Tomlin if
the Steelers win the division. Wasn't Roethlisberger the one said
about a week or two ago, that is time for

(44:02):
Mike Tomlin to move on. Do you think he's gonna apologize?
I mean, why do these guys do that. They open
their mouths to stick their foot in there. You talk
about Mike Tomlin. All right, guys, a Hall of Fame coach,
never had a losing season. I understand they want more.
The teams have been somewhat mediocre in the last several years.
No quarterback, that's the story, right, there. But they can

(44:23):
win the division this year, then who knows what happens
if they do from there on in So Ben Roelthzisberger,
I'm waiting. I want to see if the Steelers win
the division. If Ben Roethterisberger says I was wrong, I'm sorry.
Tomlin's a hell of a coach. Maybe he didn't like
Tomlin when he played for him. I don't know, But
do you agree with that? I just think that these
guys got to back off a little bit. Why start

(44:46):
this commotion when there's nothing wrong in Pittsburgh right now?
There really isn't.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
I mean, this stuff is wrong. I mean, they may
win the division. They haven't played well for most of
the time.

Speaker 4 (44:57):
But the Steelers and Tomlin always kind of back themselves
into a corner. They seem to play at their best
when they're like that. That was a huge win against
the Baltimore Ravens. But now you want to see can
they continue to do it? Because right now what is
setting up is what we've always seen from the Pittsburgh
steel is they'll find a way to get into the playoffs,
but they won't do much when they're there. We'll see though,

(45:18):
But yeah, there's a lot of noise around the program,
a lot of noise around the Steelers.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
We'll see how it holds up.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
Okay, And the big problem right now is not Mike Tomin.
The big problem is t J Watt, one of the
highest paid edge rushers in the league and twenty twenty
one Associated Press Defensive Player of the Year. He suffered
a partially collapse long during a Wednesday dry kneedling treatment.
All right, at the team facility. I had to look
this up. What in the hell is a dry kneeling treatment?

(45:48):
Helped me out? And have you ever had one?

Speaker 3 (45:51):
I've never had dry needling, but that's scary. Whatever happened
to Tj? Why that is crazy?

Speaker 4 (45:57):
I never had I know people, it's popular most people
in terms of recovery or whatever. I've never had it though.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Okay, I looked it up and it still it blows
me away because it is the first time I ever
heard of it. They say it's a skilled intervention where
the provider uses a thin needle to penetrate the skin
with the goal of alleviating pain and improving movement. And
they have wet needling too. Wet needling utilizes a hollow
born needle which has a central channel to allow liquid

(46:27):
to pass through it to inject the medication. Dried needling
uses a solid needle and no substance is injected, and
they use it, I guess for muscle pain, strains, tendinitis,
rotator cuff, bicep injury, things like that. So collapse long, Hey,
how did he get it?

Speaker 5 (46:46):
Be?

Speaker 2 (46:47):
How serious is it?

Speaker 4 (46:49):
I mean, it's serious if you had to have surgery.
Anytime you have to undergo surgery, it's serious. Don't know
how it happened, obviously, Like it's not a procedure that
you would think would lead to some thing where he
has a collapse on he has to undergo surgery, but
something with a rye uh. You hope that he is
good and the recovery will be quick and he'll be
able to get back on the field. But yeah, that's

(47:10):
I mean that happened in the facility, the team facility,
in the training room and those things.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
Man, that's tough. That's very very Oh that's that's not
a good look for the still his training.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Style, right, And my question is just and it played
a stupid question, but did he did he get the
collapse lung during a game. Was it an injury factor
in a ballgame that that created a collapse long?

Speaker 3 (47:34):
No, I thought they were saying this is a direct
cause by the needling. The needling, something went wrong with
the procedure.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Oh I see, and that led to them.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
Yeah, and that led to the collapse lung. And so
it was a reaction to whatever it took place with
the dry needling. That was my interpretation.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
Oh okay. I thought it may have been a game
injury and the kneedling was kind of to help it. No,
So that was he had pain somewhere shoulder, whatever it
may have been. In the joy needling was to kind
of alleviate that pain, and that cause to you the
oh wow, see that I didn't know. That's bad.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
That's real bad. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (48:11):
I mean that's certainly bad on the on the staff,
like you shouldn't have a recovery process lead to an
injury that, especially to you one of your best players.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
Wow, all right, Uh, you know what without TJ there,
you know, and Aaron Rodgers did have a rushing touchdown
last week. But again, Baltimore is not really at full strength.
There's still some injuries over there. I still think that
the weather may be a fact that I still think
the Steelers win that game. Games in Pittsburgh, I don't
think the Dolphins are really that good, and I think

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the factor that you're playing from the heat in Florida
going to Pittsburgh, that may be the game changer right there.
I think the Steelers win that game.

Speaker 3 (48:53):
I would say, so this is a big game.

Speaker 4 (48:56):
It's a big game because they have to show their maturity.
Are they good enough to be a certain jing Dolphins team.
If they can knock that off, it puts him in
line to win a division. It also begins to create
some confidence that, oh there still is a remnant in
the form at the right.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
Time, right all right now. I mentioned coming into the
segment that one quarterback could be watching the playoffs on TV,
and he may have a friend with him. I mean,
Joe Burrow is gonna be watching the playoffs on TV.
There's no doubt my mind. Bengals are not going to
the playoffs. But he may be joined by Patrick Mahomes.
Because the Chiefs are hosting the charges today, charges nine
to four at the Chiefs six and seven. Again, weather

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could be a fact. There's gonna be real cold in
Kansas City. Charges are used to that warm weather. They'll
be ready. I just think they'll be ready now if
they lose today and it happens they're out of the playoffs.
Charges running game is gonna get it done, and the
Chiefs are really bad stopping the run. That's the name
of the game. And they're gonna just run run him
out of the building, I think. And I'm amazed with
Justin Herbert playing with that broken wrist. I just don't

(49:53):
think he gets the credit he deserves. What do you
think about that? I think, And this happened way back
when he was drafted. He was always like the second
fiddle behind Joe Burrow. I think Justin Harby is an
amazing quarterback, but just no one knows about him. Really.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
Yeah, he's an amazing quarterback and he hasn't gotten his
just due.

Speaker 4 (50:12):
But this is a chance for him to get that,
to get exactly what he deserves in terms of recognition
for being a tough guy quarterback in town, the quarterback
who gets it done at a high level. What's interesting
when it comes to Herbert and the Chargers and those
things is, yeah, they get a chance to vanquish the
big bad wolf if they can kind of get it

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done and knock it off.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
So we'll see, like this is a big game. It's
a big game for the Chargers just because they need
to continue to win to give themselves a chance of
maybe plucking off the Denver Broncos at the end.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
Could you imagine the playoffs without Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey? Really?

Speaker 3 (50:50):
Yeah? I can't.

Speaker 4 (50:51):
They haven't played great all year, so this isn't a surprise.
They haven't played well. They lack explosiveness on the offense.
The running game is inconsistent. That makes it tough, and
it's the Pat Mahomes show and he has to run
around and do a lot of different stuff.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
They just haven't played well enough.

Speaker 4 (51:06):
And it's a look, it's a long shot for them
to get in. I mean, they can win it, but
it's a long shot right now for them to get
into the.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
Postseason right And and what happens to there is the
big quest? What happens to Taylor Swift? Does she still
go to the playoff games if the Kansas City is
not in them? I doubt it? So she's not a
football fan. She she's a Travis Kelsey. It's not doubt
about this. I thought, why would she go. Look, I'm

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not a Kansas City Chiefs fan, but I think it's
good for the lead that they're not going to be
in the playoffs. I think different faces are good. It's
not going to hurt anything. It's not going to hurt ratings.
People love it. Really. I think I think change is good. Right.
I think it's good that they're not going to be there.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
I mean, I wouldn't be heartbroken if they're not there.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
Right, your team might be there. You're Jackson be ten
and four after today, Right, Jacks will be there.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
If they can take care of business. If they can
take care of business, Yeah, they have a chance to
be there.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Could you believe they lost to Cincinnati. Don't think about that.
It should be getting their eleventh win today.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
I mean, that's a huge one that could come back
to cost him when it comes to some critical stuff. Yeah,
that's the game that that hurt.

Speaker 4 (52:20):
I mean, especially against Jake Browning because Jake Browning, that's
the game that Joe Burgh got hurt. Jake Browning comes
in and saves today somehow. So Yeah, but there's some
lessons learned in that game that helped them. They also
gave away a game against the Houston Texans when they
had a twenty nine to ten lead in the fourth quarter.

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So there's some things, but those lessons have helped them.
Now today will be a test of their maturity. Because
the caller asked me about that huge line Raiders and Eagles.
I mean, the line is significant Jets and Jacks, and
that is Look, it's hard. It's hard to say that
another pro team is going to dominate another protein by
two touchdowns going into it.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
I'm with you right there. Okay, Now I want to
shine the spotlight on one Bucky Brooks. You know I
mentioned this almost week weekly, the writing that you do
for NFL dot Com and Foxsports dot Com. You have
outdone yourself this week. I'm putting the spotlight on you
right now. This to me, no one has ever done this.

(53:26):
I haven't seen it anywhere NFL dot Com. Bucky Brooks,
you graded all thirty two first round picks for the
twenty twenty five draft, and I think that's great because
it's accountability. Really, because these clowns that do these mock
drafts after the draft is done, no one follows up,
especially that clown on the Four Letter Network. Really, you know,
he goes crazy and he goes nuts. But after that,

(53:48):
no one says, well, well, how did your picks do
a year or two down the road? You did it
and it was a lot of work. How hard was
this to do before we get involved with this thing?

Speaker 3 (53:58):
A little bit?

Speaker 4 (53:59):
I mean as hard as are agreed thirty two different players,
you know, over the course of a week and look
at their seasons and to get all the stuff that
you need to do to have a reasonable grading system
and a metric to measure them all. And all players
are created equal and what they're asked to do isn't
the same. And so you're trying to be subjective in

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a way that you're fair to the team. The player
will also be an objective to hey, let's give a
greade based on where they were taken.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
And by the way, what kind of feedback, if any,
do you ever get from these little stories, because I'm
sure the players read them. There's no doubt in my
mind they see this. Have you gotten.

Speaker 4 (54:39):
I mean, I try and stay away from discsspool that
social media can be and some of the things or whatever,
so I haven't. I mean, if I'm sure there's feedback,
everyone has an opinion, just like I have an opinion,
so it's whatever.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
It's all good.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
I think it's great. I mean, and last, but not least,
how long did it take you to do this? This
is a project. It's like a term paper.

Speaker 3 (54:58):
It was a two week deal. So I got the
assignment like a couple of weeks ago and started working
on it.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
All right, we're not gonna go through all. Maybeybe the
top five the top five for the twenty twenty five draft,
and the first pick last year in the draft was
Tennessee Titans, and they picked the quarterback cam Ward from
Miami and really and truly, you know, we talked about this.
He was so quiet. There was no noise whatsoever, no
noise and maybe lucky for him, there wasn't you know,
and still and all yet you still haven't heard much

(55:24):
of the team is terrible, you know. And you can't
blame it on him, obviously, but you gave him a
grade I think of B minus. What's what's the deal
with cam Ward? Is he gonna make it? What's the
story with him?

Speaker 4 (55:35):
Well, I mean, the main thing is he doesn't have
a lot around him, so we haven't fully seen him
maximize yet. Also, the coaching change at the beginning of
the year certainly didn't do him any favors. So then
you have somebody else coaching him than the person that
picked him.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
So he has to find his way. But it'd be
interesting because here's what we've seen. We saw Drake May exploding.

Speaker 4 (55:56):
Year two, Mike Rabel comes in with Josh mc damers.
They put an office around him and he goes and
so there's still a lot of optimism and hope for
cam Ward. He has the talent, he has the mentality
to be able to be a great one. Now you
just got to make sure you found the right coach
and you put the right people around and to have success.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
Right And by the way, if people want to see
this this NFL dot com, go to the NFL Riders
and scroll down and see Bucket Brooks's wonderful picture and
you get this deal because you could really read this.
It's it's enjoyable and informative as well. Second pick, you're
Jacksonville Jacks and I thought it was a great pick,
but he got hurt, So it was Travis Hunter. Tell
me about Travis Hunter. You're close to the guy. What

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kind of a person is he? Because I saw him,
I think it was the Heisman last year, and he
was pretty pretty well put together. I mean as far
as like between the years, he had a going. He's
a good guy.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
Yeah, Like he is a good guy. He's great.

Speaker 4 (56:49):
He brings energy to the field, and the biggest thing
with Travis is trying to figure out what's the best
position for him. He's trying to do something that hadn't
been done often in the league, and that's been a
two way standout out and he flashed on both sides.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
But right when he was about to get.

Speaker 4 (57:05):
His opportunity to be the focal point on offense, he
has an injury in practice that ends prematurely ends the season.
So heaving it a great but really it's more of
an incomplete because you hadn't seen enough to really make
a hard assessment on how good he can be. I
will say though, he has some of the best ball
skills that I've ever seen, and so it's just tracking
and catching the ball, whether it's as a wide out

(57:26):
or as a dB. He's terrific. It's just a matter
of you got to set him up to you got
to set him up for success.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
So does that mean being a full time offensive player
and a part time defensive player or vice versa. But
whatever it is, there just has to be a clear
plan for his utilization.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
Has a coaching staff made a decision where he'll play?
Is it a decision on Travis's part that he still
wants to play both ways?

Speaker 4 (57:51):
I think they're still trying to play in both ways
next year and just kind of figured out it is naturally.
I think it'll naturally correct itself and you will kind
of see what's best for the team, all right.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Pick number three the New York Football Giants, the first
team eliminated from playoff activity this year, and they picked
ab Dull Carter out of Pench State. A rusher maybe
look speed rusher obviously, but what grade did you give him?
I mean, obviously that team is Sometimes I guess you
play as good as as your team is, right, Isn't

(58:24):
that true? I mean he may have a great skill set,
but the team isn't good, So you play to the
level of your team.

Speaker 4 (58:30):
Yeah, is great, as little to do it is on
field and more to do it is off field. He
has been benched the last couple of games for being
late to meetings and those things, and so sorry, before
you can even get right on the field, you got
to get right off the field, and so a lot
of the.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
Immaturity and those things have leaked onto it. On the field, he's.

Speaker 4 (58:52):
Flash, he's played, he's got a ton of pressures, and
he's around it. He hasn't got many sacks or those things,
but he's been around it. I think the most dis
pointing part is when you take someone number three, you
expect them to have it together. You want them to
be a potential superstar, you want them to flash immediately.
But he can't get out of his or he hasn't
been able to consistently get out of his own way.
And so until they get that part fixed where he

(59:14):
is hib it's more professionalism, then we won't know what
he can be and what he will be at.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
The next level.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
I was surprised with that because of all the meetings
they have in Indianapolis at the Combine and the questions
that they asked and everything they go back to the
high school coaches and things like that, you would think
that they would have learned about his immaturity. And I'm shocked.
I mean, that's a problem on the Giants staff more
than anything else. I think they didn't do their homework.

(59:43):
Am I correct on that.

Speaker 4 (59:46):
I mean he's telled enough where you hope that he'll
mature in those things. And so you rolled the dice
thinking that, hey, look we get him here, we put
him in the right environment to write culture. He'll he'll
step up, he'll be the pro, he'll be all those
other things. But the combine is fifteen minute interview. You
don't really know what you're getting until you bring the
guy in the building. And that's the tough thing about

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the draft. You don't know until you get them. And
sometimes you don't have all the information that you need,
and that the player's true colors don't show up until
they show it to show up in the building.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
And more than that, I think money makes you crazy, right,
money could change it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
I don't think it can change it. I don't think
it can change you.

Speaker 4 (01:00:27):
I think what it does is whoever you are, money
magnifies that to the tenth degree. So if you are
a person who is not a professional, whatever, money only
shows that side of it because then you become careless
or whatever. So like you just have to make sure
who that person is. It's going to be illuminated when

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you put a bunch of money in their pocket.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
Let me just squeeze one more in because I want
to end on a high note, because you gave this
guy a Grade A and you talk about the success
of your guy out of North Carolina, Drake May. The
fourth pick was out of Louisiana State, Will Campbell, offensive
tackle with the New England Patriots. And I think the
success level that Drake May has achieved this year, part
of that gives a credit to Will Campbell on that line.

(01:01:12):
He's protecting the blind side.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
Yeah, Will Kim has been terrific man.

Speaker 4 (01:01:16):
He's been everything they wanted him to do, done a
great job protecting Drake May's blindside.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
And because of that, Drake May has been able to
get off play at an MVP level in the second season.

Speaker 4 (01:01:27):
Will Campbell's sideline briefly, and we'll come back into week
eighteen because you know ir, but he's been good.

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
He's been as advertised.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
They have to be pleased with his effort and speak
of your Alma Mado North Carolina. I think Bill Belichick
fired the offensive coordinated in it the other day. I
think he did.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
Yeah, you get rid of Freddy Kitchens and Mike pre
for the special teams coach. Not great, not.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
Great, He'll turn it around. Things will get better. It
will all right. Here's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Fromagetti's on
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live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Now let's get
into this for a second right now, because the Packers
are playing the Broncos today. Packers nine three and one,
Broncos eleven to two game in Denver. And I said,
home is very sweet for one NFL team, that team
of the Denver Broncos. They haven't lost a home game
this year. Packers have a four game winning streak. Broncos

(01:03:38):
have the line, both the offensive and defensive line to
win it, and they will win it. And you talk
about coaching, Sean Payton's name has not come up once
at all for the Coach of the Year. We talked
about Mike Vrabel talking about Ben Johnson with Chicago. I'm
throwing Sean Payton's name in there. What do you think.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
He deserves to be in there?

Speaker 4 (01:03:56):
They've done a really good job He's done a really
good job with his team in terms of them to
do whatever they need to do. I think they've reled
off what ten straight wins. They've done it in a
variety of ways. They've won a lot of close games,
and when you win close games, that's due to coaching
understanding how to execute in those moments. Give him a
lot of credit because right now, I know he would
love to see a more explosive offense, But right now,

(01:04:19):
the offense that he has plays to the streams of
the defense, and so.

Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
We haven't seen the high fline.

Speaker 4 (01:04:26):
Act or the aerial acrobatics that we saw when he
was coaching Drew Brees down in New Orleans.

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
But what he has in Botnext is a.

Speaker 4 (01:04:35):
Very steady young quarterback who understands how to manage the game,
makes the plays that are there to be made, and
it works.

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
It works for them, and at the end of the day,
the only thing you're trying to do is win the game,
no matter how you win it, and the Broncos have
certainly done that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
This year, the game will be one of the trenches,
and the trenches are going to be won by the
Denver Broncos. And I love Sean Payton. You know why,
because he likes Skyline Chile. When he coached the New
Orleans Saints, he would ask me to send him Skyline
Chili and in return, he'd go on the radio with me.
And that's why I like Sean Payton. I didn't want
it to be Coach of the Year.

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
How do you like that?

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
That's my take on. Have you had Skyline Chili?

Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
Yeah, I can't say that. I'm the biggest fan of it.
No disrespect the Skyline I did. I went to one
of those on a corner. It's good.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
You know who loves Skyline Chili. Also Lincoln Kennedy because
when he came to Cincinnati with the Raiders, we went
to Skyline. He tried, he loved it. I think he
had about four dishes of it. Oh, Lincoln's big, Lincoln's big.

Speaker 4 (01:05:44):
It's not so much how big you are. I would say,
it's the stillness of your your your guts. Your guts
have to be at a way, at a place to
kind of handle all day in your belly. I don't
know if I'm tough enough. My stomach doesn't have forty
two to be able to handle it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
I would I would say this when I see snow
like I'm seeing right now, and I think of Lincoln
Kennedy because I remember the game was in Denver and
they were throwing snowballs at the Raiders and it hits somebody,
but Lincoln ran into the stands and beat the living
daylights out of some guy. It was great. I mean,
And I don't know if that's on the internet or not.
Maybe it is, but you could look up Lincoln Kennedy
because it was wonderful. I mean, I just that doesn't

(01:06:24):
happen anymore, really, it really doesn't. But God bless him.
I love Lincoln Kennedy. He's my guy.

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
You know Big Link, don't you?

Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
Yeah, I know Big Link Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
He's good Man, good Man. All right. Now, here's the
story of the day.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
This is it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
Indianapolis Colts are playing at Seattle. Seattle's ten and three
Colts eight and five, and the story is Philip Rivers
is starting today. He's a grandpa. He's forty four years old.
I love it. Philip Rivers is starting today. All right.
They were down at the quarterback number three. They signed Grandpa,
forty four year old Philip Rivers. Look the question I

(01:07:01):
have I think it's great. It's gonna be must CTV.
I gotta watch it. He's been out of the game
for five years. But wasn't there anybody else besides Philip
Rivers they could sign?

Speaker 4 (01:07:12):
Yeah, well, I think here's the thing, and people have
missed this. Shane Syking and Philip Rivers have a long relationship.
Shane Styken worked with Philip Rivers with the Chargers. They
run the same offense like, so he knows the offense
like the back of his hand. In fact, there were
reports saying that Shane Styke and Philip.

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
Rivers were on the phone each and every week.

Speaker 4 (01:07:35):
Talking because in high school where Philip Rivers was coaching,
he was running a variation in the version of the
offense that the Colts run, So there's that familiarity with
scheme Philip Rivers. The only thing I really worry about
is just when you've been away from the game for
five years. Physically, I just worry about him. So I
worry about like soft tissue injuries. I worry about what

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we saw from Daniel Jones the Achilles because you're not
quite ready or in shape to do what it is
that you're gonna be asked to do, but he will
help them in this way. His ability to know what's
happening at the line of scrimmage will be different. He'll
be able to get them in the right play. He'll
be able to help them in the run game. Make

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sure that the running.

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
Game is off.

Speaker 4 (01:08:17):
You will see a bunch of screens from the colts
ball to get out quickly and those things.

Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
So managing the game.

Speaker 4 (01:08:24):
They probably get an improvement, but physically it could be
a downgrade, just in terms of like his lack of mobility.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
I would say this though I saw what Joe Flackall
did for the Bengals. It's the power of the human spirit.
I think it lifts up the rest of these guys.
I think that they want to see these players want
to see a grandfather grandpa show these twenty somethings on
the other side of the ball something about power of
the human spirit. I mean, just gonna come back and play.

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You know, people love and they want to see old
guys making young guys look foolish and silly. They really
do go back now. In sports, George Foreman reclaimed a
heavyweight championship when he was forty five. Jack Nicholas won
the sixth and final Masters title at forty six. Tom
Brady won his seventh and final Super Bowl at forty three.

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Gordy Howe scored fifteen goals and passed for twenty six
assists in an NHL season that he finished at fifty two.
At fifty two, Tom Watson was a put away from
winning the British Open and his Knife Major when he
was fifty nine. I'm rooting for you, Philip Rivers. Just
don't get hurt. Just don't get hurt. I'm rooting for you.

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I love you.

Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
Just said and done. He just said and done. But yeah,
you're right, yeah crazy phll Rivers.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
Well back, let's go back back in twenty twenty. Last
season they said he was washed up, No way. They
went eleven and five. He threw for forty one hundred yards.
He threw for twenty four touchdowns, and that a wild
card playoff lost to Josh Allen in the Buffalo Bills.
Rivers threw in that game for three hundred and nine
yards and two touchdowns. I mean, this guy is on

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the cusp of the Hall of Fame, and now that
he's playing today, if they win and ian he hangs
on for a little bit. I think it's going to
put some some memory factors back in these voters heads saying,
you know what I forgot about Philip Rivers. I mean,
here's a guy right now that he's throw for four
hunditred two. I got his stats through for four unit
and twenty one sixth on the old time list. He

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threw for sixty three thousand plus yards seventh on the
old time list, twenty nine to fourth quarter comebacks more
than Joe Montana. I mean, here's a guy that is
pushing the door open. He deserves to be in the
Hall of Fame before Eli Manning, and Manning's going to
get in.

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
You know that. Yeah, Manning's definitely going to get in
his name.

Speaker 4 (01:10:50):
But here's what I will say, love of the game
factor now for his Hall of Fame case, because he
would have been eligible for the Hall of Fame because
he's on the actor Roston, because he plays. He pushes
that back where he has to wait another five years
after you retired.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
Yeah, yeah, to do it.

Speaker 4 (01:11:06):
But it tells you that he doesn't really care about
that stuff, Like he doesn't really care about that. He
just love Baldy and I can appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
I'm root for him and I'm gonna watch that game
because of him. Otherwise I would never even turn that
game on. Now, let me mention this one is another
big one, another biggie. Today, the Detroit Lions on the
cusp of being out of the playoffs, which I hope
that's not happening. They're eight and five. They're going to
LA to play the Rams. They're ten and three. The
Rams defense obviously he's better than the Lions. And the
reason being, I mean half of those Lions defensive guys

(01:11:38):
are on the shelf. They're all hurt, but they're just
going to put the ball in Jamiir Gibbs belly, and
I think they gotta get the job that. I'm pulling
for the Lions now. Now I'm thinking with my heart
and I want my head in this game games in LA,
but I'm still pulling for the Lions.

Speaker 3 (01:11:54):
That's a tough one. I think the Rams are better.
I think the Rams are a better team. You know, Yeah,
this is this is that's that's tough fun.

Speaker 4 (01:12:04):
I'm gonna say this. I love the Rams spirit. I
love how competitive they are. They tend to be at
their best when they're backed into a corner. I just
think the Rams are better. So I'm gonna go with
the Rams.

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
In this one, right.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
I mean, I don't want to see Dan Campbell not
getting in the playoffs. Really, and all of a sudden,
the Boo Birds what they did to Mike Thomin, They're
gonna start doing the Dan Campbell And it's not his fault,
it really, I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
It is, No, it's still far. He still gets. Yeah,
he still gets to blame you. Yeah, yeah, you can't
excuse him for for those things. But yeah, like he
still gets he still gets to wear Where are some.

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
Of that help me out here? I had a big
argument with somebody this week. Okay, he had me on
a on his local show and he's talking about like
he's he used to quote Zach Taylor got out coached.
You know, I said to him, I said, explained him,
what does that mean out coached? The game is is
based on personnel, So so explain to me. And I know,

(01:13:04):
Bucky you you would. You wouldn't have the answer to this,
you would. I mean, how does a guy get out?
I mean, I understand usually gonta be your timeouts early
maybe and you need it at the end of the game.
Does that mean you're out coach? What does it mean?
I hear that term all the time. Announcers are really
quick to throw out terms and they don't even know
what they mean. They really don't. I watch these games.
The keys to the game did the same keys every day.

(01:13:25):
Every game is just saying don't turn the ball over,
but it being but right, that's what they do the
keys to the game. Forget about keys to the game.
I want to know about how how what does it
mean when they say coach A out coach coach B.
I don't get it.

Speaker 4 (01:13:38):
Help me, I would say, I would say that there's
some schematics in those things that can can play a
big part of it in terms of how you go
about your business, do you look like, do you have
the proper adjustments?

Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
All of those things.

Speaker 4 (01:13:57):
So there certainly are some things they kind of play
to it. So I do believe you can get out
coached in terms of like, hey, they didn't look like
they were prepared.

Speaker 3 (01:14:06):
For this scheme and that scheme whatever. It's rare, but
it does happen.

Speaker 4 (01:14:11):
So there are times where you can say, hey, we
just weren't prepared for we got out.

Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
We got out coached.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
Well, you know, in other words, they don't they aren't
going to film of the opposition, is that it?

Speaker 4 (01:14:22):
I mean, no, they just do something that you're not
prepared for. You don't have an answer for something that
they just shows up that you just you just don't
have an answer for. You can't figure it out. You can't,
I mean, I guess that's the best way to say.
You just can't figure out how they got it done
on you.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
Right, Just year they fool you. That's it, you know,
put something different? Right there we go? All right, He's
Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Ferman. And by the way, if
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Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
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(01:16:09):
do it. Let's play the play game. It's all your fault. No,
it's your fault. Why did all your faulty?

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
Maybe it's everyone's fault, the liar. That's why there's the
blame game.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
The blame game.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
Let's figure out.

Speaker 5 (01:16:25):
Who to blame the blame game.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
Are you ready, Brandon, Let's do the blame game, Baby,
Let's do it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
Let's do it, all right?

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
Who's to blame?

Speaker 5 (01:16:35):
And we already touched on this a little earlier, but
the Sharon Moore scandal, I know we're gonna say Sharon
Moore is to blame. But Michigan's gotta have they knew
about it. The recruits still signed allegedly they knew about
it before. Who's to blame in that scenario?

Speaker 3 (01:16:52):
The AD?

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
Who's gonna let fuck it go?

Speaker 3 (01:16:55):
First?

Speaker 4 (01:16:56):
Well, I think everyone is responsible. Like so Turmore doesn't
operate in a silo, like he has bosses, and if
the boss is new ahead of time, then they're responsible.
So it goes up to chain, he goes up to
the AD, up to the president or whatever like. He
is a big representative of the program. And so if
those things are going on, and if everyone knew where
they're talking about, this was a known thing, then everybody's

(01:17:19):
to blame.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
I tell you, I got a different take on that. Okay,
and then maybe it's way off base, but I will
tell you this much. They said it was an inappropriate relationship,
all right, I get it. I mean, I know what
the rules of the school were it's obviously inappropriate that
he's married, But is it inappropriate that if a philosophy
professor dates a math professor. I don't know the true
rules of the University of Michigan, but I will say this, relationships,

(01:17:42):
and I mentioned it earlier today are usually a pair
two people. And allegedly Paige Shiver Shiva Shiver, Paige Shiver
is a woman in question. She was an executive assistant
to the coach at Michigan, so obviously she knew the
rules too. She could have said a coach, we ain't
doing this, all right, you're a married man. I put

(01:18:04):
a lot of the blame on page Allegedly it's her,
So that's my take on it. And then obviously, if
the coach is fired for breaking the rule, she should
be fired too.

Speaker 3 (01:18:14):
Okay, yeah, I mean that's a fair point.

Speaker 5 (01:18:16):
The chiefs with the loss today will miss the playoffs.
We've talked about this as well. But who's most to
blame for their inconsistent offense?

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
Well, that's easy. I'll take this one first. That's dead
Taylor Swift because she's killing Travis Kelsey. I mean really,
I mean, I've seen the production of Travis Kelly. Look,
they don't have a running game. We've talked about that
at nausean. I mean, they need a runner and they
don't have a running game, so they rely on Patrick
Mahomes and in the passing and Travis Kelsey has really
dipped and why staying out late traveling around. Look, I

(01:18:48):
applaud you. I hope you have a tremendous wedding and
a great life. But you're a football player now, and
Taylor let him play football. I blame Taylor Swift. She
hasn't heard a concert tour, but she heard his football play.

Speaker 4 (01:19:02):
You're flaming, flaming Taylor Taylor Swift for their offensive wor Yes, yes,
I will blame I will blame Andy Reid and Brittleach
just because they haven't figured out the way to get
the right pieces around Pat Mahomes, from the offensive line
to the UH playmakers around him.

Speaker 3 (01:19:20):
It just hasn't worked.

Speaker 4 (01:19:21):
And they've thrown I Look, I can't blame them for
not throwing resources at the problem.

Speaker 3 (01:19:25):
It just hasn't worked out.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
And so.

Speaker 3 (01:19:28):
I'll say those people are okay.

Speaker 5 (01:19:30):
Well, if the Lions missed the playoffs, which is very possible,
if they lose to the ramps today and increasingly likely.
How much do you blame the loss of offensive coordinator
Ben Johnson, who's now at a lot of success on
the Chicago Bears.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
I mean, that's a that's a big part of it. Yeah,
if he's I mean, I think you have to put
it on him, Like he was a big part of
that offensive puzzle, how they got it done, what they
were able to do offensively, the cre creativity while still
being rough and rugged. Yeah, he was a big part that.

Speaker 4 (01:20:04):
And when they try to replace him with John Morton,
it didn't work out to the point where Dan Campbell
had to take over play calling.

Speaker 3 (01:20:10):
Yeah, I'll say a lot of it is Ben Johnson factor.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
Well, you could blame Ben Johnson all you want. I
blame the management of the Detroit Lions. They're too stupid
to realize how valuable Ben Johnson was. And I should
have put a close in his contract. You can't leave.
You got a five year deal here be you can't leave.
And I want to see that happen somewhere in sports.
You can't leave. We're gonna pay you like a head
coach because you're that valuable. You let him go. I
understand everybody wants to be a head coach one day.

(01:20:35):
But you know what, he's pretty damn valuable and they
just should have locked him up at least for three
to five years. Pay him as much as Dan Campbell,
make him associate head coach, then do something, be creative.

Speaker 5 (01:20:46):
I blame the Lions, all right, we got a few
seconds here, Notre Dame will not playing a bowl game.

Speaker 3 (01:20:51):
Who do you blame?

Speaker 5 (01:20:52):
And why quick one here from both of you.

Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
They're too pompous. They're a pompous organization. That's why.

Speaker 3 (01:20:59):
I mean, they're being bad because they didn't give what
they wanted today. After that, there we go. That's great,
that that was quick that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
We want to thank you so very much, Brandon. You've
done a wonderful job. Really, we used to have a
woman doing that job for us. I forgot her name already.

Speaker 3 (01:21:13):
She's gone, oh my gosh, you got breed. You forgot breed.

Speaker 2 (01:21:21):
All right, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Merry Christmas to one
and all, and we'll see you next week right here
on Fox Sports Radio. Stay tuned for Harmon and Cosel

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