Andy Furman and Bucky Brooks on NBA vs NFL on XMAS, NFL Playoff Picture & More!

Andy Furman & Bucky Brooks open the show comparing the games and significance of NBAA vs NFL game on Christmas. The NFL Playoff Picture is shaping up.  Plus, the biggest storylines for NFL Week 17 and new editions of Ask Bucky and the Blame Game! 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
He's Bucket Brooks and Andy Furman and we are live
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here he is they're one of the only Bucket Brooks. Hello, Buck,
I hope your holiday was a super one.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
How are you?

Speaker 4 (01:10):
I mean, I'm great, Andy, can't complain. Holiday was fantastic, right.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
And I want to say to our staff, Lead the
lap and Mark as well, I hope you had a
wonderful holiday too.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
I hope you did. Guys. That's great. Good to have
you with us today.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Okay, as we move along, you know, I want them
to get it there certain things and right now I
got to touch on some of the bowl games just
just for a second, because some of them really were
just disgusting to watch. But there are eight games yester
days we have to touch on him. And I look
at this Penn State game for a second, you know,
you look at the scores, you look at the teams

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in the city said, wait a minute, let's go back
to like July in August, Clemson, Clemson losing the Penn State.
I mean, it's kind of a strange ending to a season.
Penn State for the first time in elons to not
have double digit wins. They beat Clemson twenty two to ten.
How surprised were you that Clempson just faulted in the
Bowl Game. Well, maybe these guys don't care at that

(02:05):
this point in time they play in that Pinstripe Bowl.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
I'll say bowl games are hard to predict now given
the amount of opt outs and transfer portal emissions, It's
hard to know what team is going to show up.

Speaker 5 (02:21):
I am surprised that.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
Penn State finished with the bang, that they finished strong
under Terry Smith.

Speaker 5 (02:27):
Their interim coach.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
They have ANUE coach in Matt Campbell who was around,
but Terry Smith was able to lead him on a
four game winning streak. A lot of times these Bowl
games go to the team that is more motivated to
be there, the team that is excited to be there,
the team that wants to play and participate, and they're
able to get more of their guys to participate in
the event. For Clempson, a very disappointing year. It was

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disappointing from the beginning because this team had national title hopes.
They were expected to be a playoff team. They had
a quarterback that people were talking about being a potential
first round pick and Lubnik and they just laid an
egg the entire year. They just laid an egg. And
so for Dabbo he's gonna have to reevaluate the state
of the program and what he wants this program to be,

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because I won't say they've fallen on hard times, but
this certainly isn't the Clemson brand that we used to
see in over the last decade.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
He better get back into the portal and get into
it in a hurry, that's for sure. But I think
he's the guy that doesn't really believe in the portal
that much that he get interest.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
I think the portal, Yeah, I think no, I think
I think it's hard, and I'm not necessarily a big
believer in the portal being the like it saves all
your hopes because a lot of times those kids that
are in the portal, why are they in there? A
lot of times they're disgruntled. They were disgruntled at their
previous spot, so they jump into portal looking for more

(03:46):
playing time and they end up there. Yes, you're gonna
find some gems and some nuggets in there. Some guys
that are good players who are either looking to I say,
upgrade this situation, they're looking to cash out, don't having
a great year somewhere else. But there are also a
lot of headaches and as Ran Brown from Syracuse talked
about people are swapping two's just swapping backups because people

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are unhappy in those things. I just think it's a
harder thing to build a program if you have total
alliance on the portal. I don't think it's a sustainable model.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
I'm with you there.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
And also I think that the fans point of view,
it's very difficult to follow a team because you used
to see the progression of a team from a freshman
to a sophomore to a junior. How these guys increase
in skill level and the playing time and you just
get to know the roster.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
A little better. I think it's rough. It's rough for
fans to follow teams right now. It really is.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
Yeah, But I would say fans are also to blame because,
like as much as they talk about it's rough to
follow team, how many fans fans have the patients to
sit through a four year progression that may look like this,
let's go three and eight, five and six, eight and four,
ten and three. Most people don't have the ability to

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sit through the early part of the development process that
you have to have want guys to stay around for
four or five years. Any bad year people are ready
to fire the coach. And so as much as we
talk about the state of college football and coaches and
players and those things, fans are equally to blame because
the outside expectations for every program you can't live up to.

(05:18):
Every team is not going to make the playoff. And
if your team doesn't make the playoff, are you a
playoff or bus situation or can you live with them
going to bowl games and win an eight to nine wins?

Speaker 3 (05:29):
Hear what you're saying, You're right about that.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
I mean fans, you know, they're crazy, and I think
a lot of times fans with their vocal pressure, get
coaches fired. They really do because I think management, be
it on the college level or basically in the pro level,
they're fearful of, like the lack of season ticket hold
especially in the NFL, to say, hey, look, you know,
well we don't get rid of this guy, We're gonna

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lose fans. That's what they do. I've seen it.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
Yeah, And it's not even just the fans, right, Like,
it's not that it is win colleges.

Speaker 5 (06:01):
We'll talk about college now.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
When colleges decided they need to solicit money from fans
and donors to play players or to do collectors or
nil deals. They gave them a bigger voice because if
I am paying for the product, I now have an
opinion in a say, and the bigger the check, the
louder my voice. So now apart athletic departments are having

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to acquiesce to the demands of the rabbid fan bases
who have money, because they'll say, well, I'm just not
gonna give any money. And because money is the driving
force to the successful teams, you have to listen to
the fans more than you ever have. It's the most
power that fans have ever had when it comes to
making decisions about who the coach is going to be
there you go.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Probably the best Bowl game probably yesday was the Pop
Tarts Bowl, Brigham Young twenty five, Georgia Tech twenty one,
and bringing Young came back a game winning drive with
about maybe two minutes left in that ball game, so
that that may have been the best game right there.
And Brigham Young obviously twelve franc the country no surprise
reap because they should have beaten the Georgia Tech team
that was ranked number twenty two.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
But I think one of the bigger.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Surprises the Cougars of Houston their first ten win season
has a major conference program. Last time I think they
had a season like that was when David Klingler led
the program and they beat up on LSU thirty eight
thirty five.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
I went to what Brian Kelly.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Had to think about that game right watching on his
TV set, Houston beating LSU. Whoever thunk that could ever happen?
The Cougars of Houston beating a power like LSU, a
once power like LSU.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
Well, I mean, I'm sure Brian Kelly doesn't give a rip.
I mean, right, he's somewhere on the beach cashing his
check that they own. I think they owed him fifty
four million dollars. He could care less about what's going
on with the Tigers right now. I think for the Tigers, look,
it's another state of affairs for a program that is
major that is expected to contend for titles. They got

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rid of Brian Kelly because he was falling short of
that goal. They did the song and dance with Lane Kiff,
and there's an expectation.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
That they're gonna be much better now.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
There's a lot of pressure on Lane Kiff and to
get this right quickly.

Speaker 5 (08:07):
We'll see if he's up to the task.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
But look, it's a tough job only in the sense
of you have all the resources, you have access to
all the athletes, but it's a very difficult conference to navigate.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
All right now.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Now moving over back to Christmas, the quote move the
calendar back a little bit because there were nine of
the ten NBA teams that play on Christmas Day at
plus five hundred records, okay, and the NFL had three games,
but they were on pay platforms.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
So we see what happens right now.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
And I'm saying to myself, Christmas normally was NBA day.
All of a sudden, now the NFL is moving in.
You can't do anything about it. People love the NFL,
but Charles Barkley was not happy with the NFL moving
in on the NBA. Listen to what he called the
quote other league. Let's hear, sir, Charles.

Speaker 6 (08:51):
The NFL got greed and started a Christmas game. We
used to have this day to ourselves. But you know,
Roger Goodell and them pigs at the NFL always wanted
to hog every day of the week.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
Now they can't play.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
The NBAD.

Speaker 6 (09:06):
I saw those guys yesterday on the ESPN talk about it,
and they're right, Christmas is an NBA day.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
You know.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
I'm not so certain Christmas is an NBA day, but
the point is it was at one point in time.
But Charles Barkley calling these guys pigs. You know, it's business.
What are you gonna do? I mean, do you want
to get the government involved at the game? The day
belongs to the NBA. I don't know, and I don't
know what the NBA could possibly do. You just can't
compete with the NFL. And there's so many reasons why

(09:35):
every game means so much. There's only seventeen freaking games
NBA play eighty two. I think the gambling I spent.
It's a perfect game for gamblers. So it's just the
way the way the world can't do anything about it. Charles,
I'm sorry, but the call them pigs.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
I want to know this.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
If Charles is so upset, how come nobody else is upset?
How come the other owners are upset? I haven't heard
a squat from anybody, you know. How come the this
should didn't come out and say, wait a minute, you know,
push back?

Speaker 3 (10:03):
NFL? This was are they Charles Barkley the only one.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Speaking about the NBA that to me, I don't get
if it's that big of a deal.

Speaker 5 (10:12):
I think other people have said it.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
I think Mark Cuban years ago talked about he talked
about the pigs and hogs getting slaughter. I think that's
what he used, you know, in terms of like the
NFL continuing to just gorge on hisself and eat up
everything and take over all the things as they can,
because football is king in our country, whether it's college

(10:35):
football or NFL football. When you look at the top
rated events, there's always an NFL event. That's just what
it is, and that's what it's always going to be.
People have a rabbit ob session when it comes to
the game.

Speaker 5 (10:48):
And when Roger Goodell and.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
Those guys started to infringe upon the NBA's Christmas Day plans,
you've seen what has happened. Even by putting it on
a paid platform, you know, they still able to draw
a number that exceeds whatever the NBA can draw. I mean,
let's be honest too, Like when it comes to the NBA,
it's not really watchable right now. There's no excitement or
buzz around it. I watch some of those games, and

(11:12):
I have a tough time, and I love basketball, have
a tough time watching all of them. I mean, it's
nothing exciting about what is going on.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
And the meaningless those games don't mean anything right now.
When the playoffs start, you know, I'll get into it
a little bit more, But right now, those games don't
mean to think. They really don't. And the funny thing
is that, you know, you talk about the NBA, you
talk about the NFL. The difference in my mind, we
talk about game, we talk about fantasy football.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
I get it. I talk about less games. Less is
more to note. Doubt about that.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
I would have to say. The storylines in the NFL
is so much better. And I don't know why. I'm
sure there are storylines in the NBA, they don't sell them.
But in the NFL, it's all about storylines, and the
storylines are better. And one of them has to do
with the Baltimore Ravens and their coach John Harbaugh. He
denies now a rift with his quarterback Lamar Jackson. Where
are they going with this? I mean, is John Harar

(12:00):
bar in trouble? They won last night? It was a
big win. Derek Henry finally got the ball. He rush
for two ord and sixteen yards in that forty one
to twenty four victory last night over Green Bay and
they're still alive. Baltimore and Lamar didn't play. What's the
problem right now with Lamar Jackson and John Harbaugh.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
I don't get it. But it's a great storyline.

Speaker 5 (12:19):
I mean it's a great storyline.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
I'll say this, Lamar Jackson's contract is due for being readdressed.
Either they need to do an extension or they need
to figure out a way to exist with him having
such a hefty cap situation. I think it'd be seventy
four million dollars. So he has to address it. The
problem that you have with Lamar Jackson, He's year eight,

(12:42):
he'll go into year nine. Injuries have started to pop
up of late. He hasn't participated in the last two
OTAs organized team activities, and so there's some people that
are questioning the commitment of a franchise quarterback to chasing
a Super Bowl goal. And if he is your best
player not quote unquote all in with the preparation process,

(13:07):
how can he truly deliver the kind of performance and
production that you want to see from a look in
elite QB one. So you have that situation going on.
You have John Harborough who's been there eighteen nineteen years.
People are wondering if the voice has grown still, particularly
when you look at Seattle and one of the former assistants,
Mike McDonald, who was in Baltimore's having a tremendous amount.

Speaker 5 (13:30):
Of success with the Seahawks.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
People are wondering, did we mess up by not promoted
from within? Is it time to have someone else come
in and take this over all of those things? So, look,
it's a lot of disappointment, and it falls on the
head coach and the quarterback because those are the guys
who are chiefly responsible for the success in the failure.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Of the team, right, and if it comes down to
one or the other, it's going to be the quarterback.
But you could always replace a coach, you can't replace
a quarterback. You can't replace a guy like Mark jacks really.
But there was a story in the bald More Sun
just the other day said that Lamar Jackson has falling
asleep a team meetings. Okay, according to anonymous sources. Okay,
And then it also said that Jackson has a habit
of staying up late playing video games, and the Ravens

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gave him a preferential treatment, including moving their practice schedule
to the afternoon for Jackson.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
So the coach came back.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Harbaugh comes back and says, I don't put any credence
to anonymous sources. First of all, the reporter wouldn't have
written this if it wasn't It wasn't true. He's got
credibility to number two, someone from this team leaked this
because they knew about the contractual situation with Lamar Jackson
to make him look bad. And this is going to
bury Lamar Jackson. And I don't understand why every time

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Baltimore went to the playoffs and they kind of faulted
in the playoffs, they say that Lamar couldn't handle.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
The bright lights. What about the coach? What about Harbor?

Speaker 2 (14:47):
I mean, I don't understand why Lamar Jackson was getting
the brunt of the blame every time they folded in
the postseason.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
To whom much is given, much is required. And Lamar
jacks and signed a big deal. Lamar Jackson is a
two time MVP. We put tremendous expectations on MVP quarterbacks,
and I would say that he should have been a
three time MVP. You could have given him the award
last year based on his numbers and those things. The

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problem that you have is, look, they are people, players,
coaches that are very aware.

Speaker 5 (15:21):
Of how he interacts in the building.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
And if what those reports are saying is true, that's
a bigger indictment on the coach, on the on the
quarterback and the coach, because you either coaching or you
allow it to happen. And even though we make special
exceptions and considerations to start players, your quarterback can be
falling asleep in meetings. When you think about the quarterback

(15:44):
and who the quarterback is supposed to be the ultimate
leader on the team. He has to be the hardest worker.
And if you're allowing him to get away with that stuff,
it wrecks it ruins the culture from within. That's the
usual way.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
To You even mentioned this last week, the fact that
he is a leader. He wanted to get rid of
the pig punk tables in the clubhouse and things like that,
So all of a sudden, now he's not a leader.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
I mean, I just think that it depends.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
It depends are your actions aligned with you being a
great leader. It's one thing to be like, Oh, I
want the TVs and the what you mean call it out?
But how are you living on the day to day basis?
Are you in early, out late? Are you doing all
the things that you need to do to make sure
the team is prepped and ready to go. We talk
a lot about quarterbacks since we've kind of created quarterbacks

(16:32):
as a mythical figure, but some of those things associated
with the quarterback have to be true.

Speaker 5 (16:37):
You have to be a diligent worker. You have to
be a great.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
Person when it comes to the preparation process and getting
everyone on board. Everything is on your shoulders and eight
nine years into the league, yeah, man, it can't be
a part time, casual hobby. Most quarterbacks, elite quarterbacks have
an obsession not only would winning, but with being great.
And if Lamar Jackson doesn't share that, man, it would

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be hard for me to go to ownership and say, hey,
stroke to check. Write the biggest check that you can
write for the quarterback, because now we're talking about sixty
million dollars a year. If he's doing what these articles allege,
now you're rewarding bad behavior, and what happens is then
you're just gonna have a hard time getting everybody else
to buy into work and hard, because they're gonna be like,

(17:25):
what number eight doesn't work hard? Why do I need
to work hard? He's the highest paid player if he
doesn't work hard instead of a good example, why do I
need to do what you're telling me to do?

Speaker 2 (17:33):
You not hold But what what's the alternative? Who plays quarterback?
I mean, he's the guy. He is a franchise quarterback.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
He is, but it doesn't mean that you have to
hold on to him. If he's not living up to
the standards of the culture, then you got to find
somebody else. Like if that's the case, if these things
are true, you can't reward him. You can't give him
the big contract. You make him play it out or
do whatever. But you cannot reward him because if you
reward him, you sending a bad message to the locker
room that we allow this kind of behavior to go on.

(18:03):
Doesn't matter as long as you're talented, we'll tolerate all
your misbehavior, your bad deeds.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
I don't see bringing a new coach that's trying to
change his behavior.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
That's what they'll do. Harbar's gonna be gone if they.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
Lose I'm just saying, like Harbor has been very successful.
He's only had two losing seasons under his watch. And
I know that doesn't mean anything to most people, but
it's hard to do consistency. He's won a super Bowl.
They're not many active coaches who've won Super Bowl. Don't
confuse activity with achievement. Just because you changed the coach
doesn't mean you're gonna change the results, particularly if you

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got the same quarterback doing the same thing.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
I'm going to continue with that, all right. He's Bucky
Brooks and Andy Fourman.

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up at the top of your screen. All right, I
want to finish this up here a little bit about
the Ravens yesterday. First of all, I was kind of
shocked that they beat the Packers. But you got two
backup quarterbacks. It's not going to a Broadway show and
watching understudies right now, and I can't stand that. I
want to see the regulars play. I get it to hurt.
That's the big deal. But so what Ravens forty one
package twenty four. But here's the deal about this. You know,

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Derek Henry comes out there yesterday thirty six, carries.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
Amazing day.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Really four touchdowns, and last week when they lost, the
Ravens lost to New England twenty eight twenty four, he
didn't touch the ball the final twelve minutes. I mean,
I don't understand how that happens. These coaches. They could
claim they sleep on that couch at night. They spend
the night in the office. It's not that smart. The
next game I coached in the NFL would be my first.
All I know is this, if I'm coaching, I'm shoving

(21:21):
that ball on that guy's belly.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
You can't bring the guy down.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Tell me, tell me, my friend, tell me, Bucky Brooks,
how hard is it to bring a guy like Derrick
Henry down.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
It's got to be difficult.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
Yeah, it's really difficult. And you know the thing that
you are I guess confused by with the Baltimore Ravens
is a couple of years ago, it was great Derrick Henry.
The Derrick Henry Lamar Jackson combination was unstoppable. And it
was unstoppable because you had a force of nature at
running back who was just too big, too fast, too

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physical for any defensive player, particularly a second level the
player linebacker defensive back. Then you had Lamar Jackson, who
can run and outrun everybody. For whatever reason, the Ravens
decided they wanted to modernize their offense because everyone talked
about they just run, run, run, run. In my estimation,
when they went away from that heavy run game, and
even though talk about Greg Roman, people didn't like him

(22:16):
as offense, coordinated to hire Todd Munk and elevated him
to OC. It took away from what I felt like
the Ravens' superpower was, which is a physical run game
to compliment a dominant defense, and they won in a
fashion that was like bullyball.

Speaker 5 (22:32):
They got away from it.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
I don't know, like sometimes you want more, you want
to a sexier style, you want to do something that
everyone is telling you need to do to be at
your best. But I think what you saw last night
as they turned back to clock and went back to
the old school Ravens football, that is always the recipe.

Speaker 5 (22:48):
In the FORMU for them to be successful. And they
just need to remember.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
That quick question if I may in a situation like that.
Obviously they lose that game, they're not gonna get in
the playoffs. Now there's some light. If the Stealers lose today,
it'll be a one game showdown there sweep between the
Ravens and the Steelers. But my question is it a
situation Maybe Derek Henry goes to the coaching staff and says, look,
you know, Lamar's not playing, give me the ball, because
that was that in the game plan. Does Derek Henry

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have any say it all whatsoever prior to that game?

Speaker 4 (23:15):
I mean, I'm sure he voiced his opinion, particularly coming
off a game in which he was dominating the game
last week and didn't touch the ball the final twelve
minutes of the game, and there was a lot of
conversation about it. There was a lot of confusion about
why one of your best players doesn't touch the ball,
particularly with Lamar Jackson out. A lot of people couldn't

(23:36):
figure it out. And so I think you have the
natural overcorrection to give him the ball. And then they
found how successful it is. That's why he touched it
thirty six times.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
All right.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
I move along out to the other game, the Texans
beating up on the charge of twenty sixteen. I'm watching
that game and I can't but I mean, I almost
die with Cameron Dicker, you know, a meltdown to say
the least team four points. He missed a thirty two
yard field goal. He missed an extra point in that
twenty sixteen loss. I'm gonna give you the recap of
what this guy did. He just made all pro I mean,

(24:10):
it's amazing. He missed two kicks in the game for
the first time in his career. He missed a field
goal from inside forty for the first time in his career.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
He only had two.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Misses all season long on seventy one kicks, field goals
and extra points going into last week. This past week,
his streak of fifty seven straight successful extra points came
to an end.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
I don't get it.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
I mean, the good news for the Charges, they've already
clinched a playoff spot.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
But how does this happen to a kicker like Cameron Dicker?

Speaker 2 (24:34):
And I'll tell you right now, you don't think there's
some gamblers out there that are questioning what happened. Gotta
be there's gotta be a cloud over Cameron Dicker's head.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
I mean, I gotta believe that.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
It happens. In terms of the misses and those things.
Dickator kicker has been great for them. He been automatic
for them most of his career. He just had a
bad day and a lot of blame should be assigned
to him because, yeah, you take the field goal in
the extra point. Those are the four points that were
the deciding factor in the game. But the Charges in general,

(25:07):
I'm gonna say this, man, they're the most frustrating team
to watch because they're good and they're talented, and they
do just enough to tease you into believing they did
the title contenders. But then when they play a heavyweight, man,
they falter. Man, they boo boo right down their leg
and that's what they did. They had a red zone turnover,
a pass to Ronde Gason Junior is tipped up. That's

(25:29):
the interception. You got, the miskicks that they had, just
the miscues that they had in a big game. Just
really disappointed if you're a Chargers fan to see them.
I won't say give the game away, but man, really
contribute mightily to the Texas winning the game.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Don't take anything away for the Texas. They not won
eight straight games and now they win. Good defense to
the Indianapolis Colts, you know from the postseason, But you
talk about defense, I mean, it's I don'tbelieve what they did.
They started the season zero and three and they made
the playoffs, and they could win the AFC South with
a winning Week eighteen, and you're loss with Jacksonville if
Jacksonville loses today in Indianapolis. But the Colts are out

(26:10):
of it right now, so you know, I'm sure they
won't be playing for much.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
Maybe be a spoiler. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Colts rating two and they're not going to make the playoffs.
Think about that. That's unbelievable. Really, Texas own three and
they're in the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (26:23):
Yeah, but I will say this for disclosure about the Colts.
The Colts schedule was backloaded. They played all their heavy
hitters the last half of the season, and it's unfortunate
that when they were playing all those teams that's when
the injuries started to arise. With the quarterback situation, Daniel Jones,
Riley Leonard, you bring in Philip Rivers, all of that,
it just didn't look. It just didn't go right for

(26:45):
them in terms of that. But having seen the Texans
up close and personal twice, I'm gonna tell you, man,
they're a team that no one really wants to face
in the postseason. And I know people say that all
the time, but I am telling you their defense is
very difficult to score on.

Speaker 5 (26:59):
Their number one and yards allowed number one.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
Points allowed sixteen points, six points, which is ridiculously low
in terms of holding the opposition. If you watch the
Chargers game, you see why they're difficult. They can win
with a four man rush Danil Hunter, Will Anderson, Derek
Barnett can get there without needing blitzbrushers, so that means
they can play maximum coverage behind it, and they're sticky
in the back end Derek Stanley, Kamari Lassiter, Jalen Petrie.

(27:24):
They can lock up, they can play Manda Man that
can make it very difficult for you to find open windows. Man,
and they muck up the game. It's such an ugly
game when you play them, that every game is going
to be a fourth quarter affair, and it's hard to
beat them at their game.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
You know, it's funny.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
I'm hoping the management of the Cincinnati Bengals was watching
that game because they loaded up on offense, but they
don't realize that. You know, defense really and truly does
win the game, because you know, if you don't score,
you can't win.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
You know, you need points, you really do.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
I think Justin Herbert was SAT five times yesterday and
they told about Miles Garrett being such a great defensive player,
and he is. He may it the sack record today.
This guy Will Anderson's right behind them. I mean, it's unbelievable,
he really is.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
He's tremendous.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Derek Barnett he had two sacks yesterday. I think Danielle
Hunter had a sack yesterday. A couple of pressures. This
defense is for real and that's why they're winning ball games.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
They really are.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
Yeah, No, they are definitely for real. They're physical, they're fast.
They take on the personality of their head coach Demic o'ryant.
They are a salty team. And you're here anyone down
around the Houston area, you hear the word swarm, and
swarm basically represents how they are, swarming to the ball
like a bunch of bees. He wants his defense to
fly around, he wants his defense to be unapologetic about

(28:39):
their level of physicality and toughness they play with. That's
what they do. And really impressive performance. And I would
say this c J. Strout turned the ball over twice,
had a great first quarter, but didn't.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
Have the career score and he turned it all over.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
Right, doesn't matter because the defense is so good that
they look they can put out the fire. Firefighters they
come in, they put out the fire, and that makes
it tough. Particularly if you have to play him in
age down, then it be a tough out.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
No doubt about that. Okay.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Now let's talk about the Steels here. They've played at
the Browns today without wide receiver DK Metcalf. Okay, and
we know he had that alter case with a fan
in the first half of the Steelers twenty nine to
twenty four win over the Lines.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
That was last Sunday. And here's the deal.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Now's let's look a little bit of the history of
DK Metcalf. Steel has traded for a second round pick
to Seattle for Metcalf and then they signed it to
a five year deal one hundred and fifty mil.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
This was back in March.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
They already had George Pickens, but they were concerned, I guess,
with the maturity of George Pickens instead of.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Going to DK.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
All right, did they know that what they were getting
in Dk Metcalf. This guy has lost his cool in Seattle.
He's had fifteen fifteen yard penalties since entering the league
in twenty nineteen. He's had two injections since twenty twenty one,
and maybe that's why Seattle traded him. Don't they do
their homework before they get these guys? I don't get it.
I mean, what's better? I mean DK metcalf or George Pickers.

(30:01):
They're both a bit bit of a loose cannons over there.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
Really, I would say both guys have had issues in
the past. I would say the difference is George Pickens,
you just didn't know which George Picken was going to
show up if he showed up. Reportedly, like people would
talk about, he's inconsistent as a worker in those things,
so it's hard to count on someone like that. With DK,

(30:26):
what you're talking about is his emotional control between the lines.
Sometimes guys that motor can run hot at a level
in games that it's hard to get them to make
good decisions without being emotional. Obviously, for DK, you talked
about the fifteen personal file penalties and just the lack

(30:47):
of emotional control that he has displayed at times.

Speaker 5 (30:49):
Yeah, they're being problematic.

Speaker 4 (30:51):
But for the Stellers An organization, a franchise that is
always kind of told the line. When it comes to physicality,
toughness and the way they do it, they felt like
they could control it with the culture and the environment
and the people around them. Obviously, you don't want to
see what took place on Sunday where he has the

(31:11):
incident with the fan. Regardless of what the fans say.
Is like, you would like your player they have more
emotion in control than to engage in it. But look,
it's loud, it's different, it's noisy. People feel like they
pay their money. They can say whatever, but you need
DK to respond differently because he has a higher calling
in terms of helping his team get to the postseason,

(31:32):
and he shouldn't let his selfish acts impact the team
negatively impact the team.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
No doubt about that.

Speaker 4 (31:38):
Now.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
I did mention coming into this segment of two teams
going in different directions as the Jaguars playing at the
Colts to stay two teams trending differently. Okay, obviously Colts
are out of the playoffs. Yesterday, Colts out of the playoff,
the Charges lost and the Texans went on Saturday. You're
Jacksonville Jacks, I say, very dangerous, maybe the most dangerous
team in the AFC Colts were trying for a playoff spot.

(31:59):
Forget about that, Get this, and this is a pretty
big stat. Over the last four games, Jaquess quarterback Trevor
Lawrence fourteen touchdowns, twelve passing, two rushing, six consecutive wins
for this team, zero turnovers over the past four weeks.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
For Trevor Lawrence, what has happened to this guy?

Speaker 2 (32:15):
I mean, really and truly, there are many questions, at
least going into the season, and maybe halfway through the
season about Trevor Lawrence. All of a sudden, now he's
turned the corner. He's become an NFL quarterback. He could
be their franchise quarterback.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
Now, yeah, he's matured. He has really settled in and
played well in Liam Cohn's system. Liam corn has done
a really good job of freeing his mind and encourage
him to be aggressive but not reckless. And what you're
seeing from Trevor is the newfoud. Confidence has allowed him

(32:47):
to just let it rip. And when he lets a rip,
he's talented enough to make big things happen. And he's
done it avoiding the negative plays, and each and every week,
the more he puts on those performances, the more the
team leaves in them. That performance last week against Denver
was tough, because I'm gonna tell you, as much as
I waxed poetically about the Texans defense man, the Broncos

(33:08):
are right there with them when it comes to the
problems that they present with their front, their front and
their ability to cover. But he handled it, and the
more he handles it, the more confidence this had. This
team has not only that they can win the division
and go to the playoffs and make some noise, they
legitimately believe they can make a run and go all
the way to the super Bowl, just given how they
do it. They won't say it, but their actions their

(33:30):
demeanor reflects one that a this team believes that if
they get into the tournament, they can knock off anybody.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Right the Jacks right now are eleven and four. I
want to what's the feeling around the ball club? You
travel with the team, you know anything everything about them.
They have a newfound confidence about them and that they
feel they could go deep in the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
What are they feeling over there?

Speaker 4 (33:52):
I mean, look, they feel like they're a really good team.
Now they've been real process are in it trying to
focus on week by week uh being the team in
the stadium that week. But they certainly feel like they
can play with anybody in their schedule. Reflects that you
look at the tough teams that are being on the schedule.
They knocked off San Francisco on the road. They lost
to Seattle and the Rams. The Rams is probably the

(34:14):
worst beatdown that they've had in London, but they went
toe to total with Seattle before faltering. Then you look
at the other games that they've had. The notable wins
at the time to be knsas City on a Monday,
that was a big win. They feel like they can go.
They beat Houston, they had a twenty nine ten Houston
lead on Houston.

Speaker 5 (34:30):
The second time.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
So they feel like they can handle anybody that you
throw out their way.

Speaker 5 (34:34):
It doesn't matter of them playing their game.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
No doubt about that. He's Bucky Brooks.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Get him at Brookie Brooks and Andy Fourman and Andy
Ferman at FASAR were a live from the Fox Bus
radio studios and of course he does have all the answers.
That's why asked Bucky is next.

Speaker 9 (34:50):
Don't listening the Fox Sports Radio radio.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Oh Yeah, little Stevie Weather coming up here on Fox
Football Sunday. He's Bucky Brooks and Andy Furman and we
are Fox Football Sunday and we're broadcasting a life on
the Fox Bust Radio studios.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
It's Bucky coming right up. So what are we waiting for?

Speaker 2 (35:05):
About twelve minutes before the top of the hour, it's
time for as Bucky. All right, Mark, you usually have
a question, Lee, you got any questions for Bucky Brooks?

Speaker 10 (35:15):
Well, Bucky, I gotta know.

Speaker 11 (35:16):
I mean, after watching the Saturday night game between the
Ravens and the Packers, obviously we know that Jordan Love's
gonna be coming out of the concussion protocol before the
last game of the regular season. Uh, Malik obviously went
into the locker room with a bump shoulder. I mean,
what are your feelings towards that quarter Who would you
start at quarterback? With nothing really quite on the line
for the Packers and the last week of the regular season.

Speaker 4 (35:38):
Well, now, I think health is everything. I want to
make sure Jordan Love is healthy and ready to go
for the postseason. If he can start and play, I'll
play him a little bit. I won't play him the
entire game. If not, I'll check and see what Malik
Willis has. I don't ideally, I don't want Clayton Tune
to beat the quarterback for me because it's important for
us to kind of regain our confidence going through it.
But health is going to turn and everything.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Mark you got anything.

Speaker 12 (36:03):
When it comes to all the different the number of
the top four sports, Bucky, which sport has their players?
Do they know their sports history? Like if football players
know their history, Baseball players know their history, basketball player?

Speaker 3 (36:22):
Which sports players know.

Speaker 12 (36:25):
Their history so they can that their minds are correct
about the game and they know their history about the game.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
I'll say probably baseball because I think baseball history has
talked about more like they always are bringing up whatever
it is Ted Williams and Babe Ruce and like all
those old school people. So I think baseball is probably
one where it's layered in broadcasters to.

Speaker 5 (36:48):
Keep everyone on.

Speaker 4 (36:49):
The people that cover the sport are really big on
the history of the game. I think as a player,
you have to be on it because the questions that
you get center around the history of the game more
any of this.

Speaker 12 (37:01):
It just seems like the basketball players, it just seems
like they can't be bothered with the history of the game,
and they don't really it is appeared like they don't
care that, but that they're not, you know, thinking about it.

Speaker 10 (37:13):
It's just like, ah, whatever, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
Very much so, And there's something to that. It's also
a very young it's a younger sport than the others. Yeah,
but there's some immaturity and some disrespect when it comes
to the new generation relating to the old generation and
dismissing their accomplishments.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
And I agree with you bucket about baseball with the
history fact that I tell you one of the reasons
being maybe so maybe on way off base here, but
baseball has traditionally been a radio sport, and I think
to some extent it still is. It's a great game
to listen to on the radio, to do other things
while the game is going on. People don't have the
time to sit for two and a half hours in
front of a TV set watch a game, so there's
such a long period of time and a lot of

(37:52):
dead time in baseball. Announcers talk about the history a
lot during the game, at least the old guys to
the jack books of the world, and you know, Mel Allen, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (38:03):
Yeah, talking about Joe Morgan, their crew on Sunday Night
Baseball back in the day, right, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (38:08):
All those guys, Yeah, there we go.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
I got a question for you, nonsports. Does Bucky Brooks
in his home have a real Christmas tree or a
fake tree?

Speaker 4 (38:18):
A fake tree all day, fake tree? Don't have time
to go pluck it, get all those needles and put
it out the box once a year. We're good.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
That's what we do here. Okay, we got that and
the Manora right next to it. Okay, let's move on. Okay,
after that DK Metcalf altercation, there's been talk, get this
for a fan behavior policy in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
Is there a need for that a fan behavior policy?

Speaker 4 (38:42):
Yes, I think, not only in the NFL, just in general. Yeah,
I mean I think fans. I think fans are great
in some regards. In ninety eight percent of fans are terrific.
The two percent coming there intent on disrupting the game
and creating chaos. And when you throw alcohol in there
there people say things that shouldn't be uttered. Now, that's

(39:04):
one thing that you're for your team. It's another thing
to demean or whatever player. So yeah, you need to
have a code of conduct. It doesn't need to be
like church in the building, but you have to have
some boundaries in terms of what fans can and cannot
do it again.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
That'll be pretty tough to monitor, really would be. We'll see.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Okay, the NFL has look like a Broadway show with
understudies the past several weeks with their quarterbacks. How concerned
now should the league be? Because you want to see
the best players play, but they're getting hurt. I don't
want to see Chris old Dacona, whatever the heck is
name of the Kansas city.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
Yeah, a lot of the code. I mean, I don't
even know who he is. I think he played for Sanford.
Do know this guy?

Speaker 4 (39:42):
Yeah? Well you can't. You can't protect the quarterbacks anymore.
H so rough in the past. The penalty yesterday on
someone laying the person to the turf, uh, you got
to live with it. Quarterbacks got to be tougher, They
got to be more denable, durable, They got to find
a way to lift weights to do whatever it is.
But it's a fields of cool contact sport. We cannot
make it flag football. That's a part of it. And

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teams need to do a better job of preparing their
backups for prominent roles because ultimately the backup is going
to play at some point during the season.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
I agree, we've got a controversial question, if we have
to roll this over, But Baylor University has added a
six to eleven former NBA draft pick from the Pistons,
James Naji, after playing in Europe.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
Isn't this guy a pro? What does your take on this?

Speaker 4 (40:26):
Yeah, that's gonna be interesting because he's an older player,
they said, because he didn't sign an NBA contract, he's
abble to go. Now. It just opens up the floodgates
for a bunch of old dudes playing college. And college
basketball is no longer college, just the minor leagues. So
you're just gonna see some old guys kind of hanging
out in Triple A waiting to get their call up
to the NBA.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
It's amazing, it's amazing. We'll get into that so much more.
But both teams in the playoffs right now, this game
certainly has meaning. We'll tell you all about it more
right here on Fox Sports Sunday next.

Speaker 9 (40:55):
Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
All right, this team never whoever loses at home, I'll
tell you who it is.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
In just about a minute.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Good morning, everybody, This is the show you can't wait
to hear it?

Speaker 3 (41:07):
Really? Did you wait seven days for that? You really do?

Speaker 2 (41:10):
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(41:31):
takes you don't like. Just search Fox Sports Radio on
YouTube and subscribe. Here he is Bucky Brooks. How are
you buck in Indianapolis today with your jacks against the Colts?

Speaker 3 (41:39):
Is that correct?

Speaker 4 (41:40):
I am.

Speaker 5 (41:41):
I'm in Indianapolis waiting for a big game today.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
And you gotta stop with a Shapiro's Delhi in Indianapolis
is the best. I'm sure you had that big meal
last night. Did you go to that fancy, fancy place
in India last night for dinner?

Speaker 4 (41:53):
Oh you're talking about Saint Ilmos. I did not get
to St Elmos. I went to the cousin. All right, okay, yah,
check good though goodies, A lot of steaks, a lot
of steak houses downtown, Yes.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
All right.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
I wanted to kind of follow up on a couple
of items that we didn't touch on on as bucket
and one of them. This is a pretty big story,
and I think it's gonna get even bigger. We talking
about this kid, James Naji. I know what kind of
heavy football, but this is pretty important. He's a form
of Detroit Pittson's second round pick. He now has enrolled
at Baylor. He's six or eleven, and he played in Turkey.

(42:25):
He played also in the next twenty twenty five Summer League.
In my mind, he's a pro. In my mind, if
you get paid, you're a professional. Right, So now he's
going to college to play for Baylor. But the point
that the matter is this, maybe everybody in college is
a pro because with nil they're all getting paid.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
So that got to change some of these rules.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
And I don't know if for such a good thing
to have this kid who played in Turkey and now
he played overseas in Spain, played in Barcelona, now he's
playing for college. I don't think it's good the gates
that the floodgates.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
Have been opened.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Right now in college, it's crazy and I don't like it,
and I think it's going to caused a lot of
college coaches to pack it in. That's why Jay Wright
left filling over. That's why these college coaches are leaving.
They can't handle it anymore.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
Agreed.

Speaker 4 (43:11):
I mean, look, it's a challenging thing because you don't
have like guardrails. And the one thing that it does
when you allow a player like him who's played professionally
to come back and have four years of college, it
clogs up the pipeline for any high school players. There's
just not a place for high school players to go.
And as these teams are getting older and older at

(43:31):
the collegiate level, collegiate ranks, I mean, you have twenty
four to twenty five, twenty six year old kids playing
college basketball.

Speaker 5 (43:38):
It's just a different game.

Speaker 4 (43:40):
And everyone would tell you that old is better when
it comes to the NCAA dealing with the tournament, the maturity,
the physicality, all.

Speaker 5 (43:48):
Of that.

Speaker 4 (43:50):
Night and day between an eighteen nineteen year old fresh
out of high school and someone who's been around the
block a few times but since this is going to happen,
it's going to change the dynamic.

Speaker 5 (43:59):
A lot of guys that under.

Speaker 4 (44:00):
The draft that are undrafted or not happy with their
draft position are going to seek waivers to go back
to their respective colleges. Look, there's going to be some
legislation that needs to be drawn up to protect the
universities and the players amongst these situations from these situations.
But I don't know. Man, it's the wild wild West

(44:20):
right now in the college landscape.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
I wouldn't want to go into coaching right now because
you know, you used to be able to go to
a kid's house, talk to mom and pop, get in
the living room, talk about the courses you may want
to take in school with the major might be, how
many games you might be on TV, things like that.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
That has nothing to do with It's all about money.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
You know, come with the checkbook and then you know,
you give me more money, I'll go to your school.
That's what it's all about. And now if you're a pro,
you can still go back to school. It's crazy. There's
no academics involved. How did the presidents allow this? How
does the president of a university allow that?

Speaker 3 (44:51):
To happen. I don't get it.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
I mean, you know, Vanderbilt has become better in football,
But I got news for you. If someone with the check,
they've gotten better in football, but maybe the academic standards
have been lowered.

Speaker 3 (45:02):
That's all I'm thinking. I'm just saying that.

Speaker 4 (45:07):
Probably so in a little way, like in terms of admission,
what you're putting in.

Speaker 5 (45:12):
You don't hear people talk about academic stuff.

Speaker 4 (45:14):
Now.

Speaker 5 (45:14):
I'm sad for that.

Speaker 4 (45:16):
I love college sports and I love all the things
that college sports does for young people. What it did
for me in terms of allowing me to grow up,
allow me to pursue athletic dreams and academic pursuits in
those things. And I know the New School doesn't believe
in some of those values and traits. But look, it's
sad to me that it's become professionalized. It's become a

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pro sport basically at a lower level. I don't like that,
and I want everyone to get paid coaches, players and
all that. But I feel like there's a way to
do it where we still keep the integrity of.

Speaker 5 (45:50):
The sport what it should be when it comes to.

Speaker 4 (45:53):
College athletics and providing opportunities to grow as a student
and as an athlete.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
All Right, you played the game, you play for a
lot of different coaches. You coach the game, you scout
the game. This is right up your alley. And I
got to talk to you about this because I'm my
head's spinning when I saw this story. It's about Golden
State for with Draymond Green. Draymond Green left the bench
in the middle of a time out for Golden State
during the third quarter of that win against the Orlando Magic.

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And what happened was their coach, Steve Kerr, let him
come back with the team. He apologized to Green and
he said, it happens one of my finest hours.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
It was not my finest hour. This is the coach.
I don't get it now.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
Old school coaches would say, you know what, you leave
the team, You turn your back on my team, give
me your jersey.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
I don't want to see it that anymore.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
You're out of here. You can't turn you but you're
a teammate. You let your teammates down. I don't understand
how coaches right now have become fearful of players, not
just in basketball, in football as well. And we talked
about this at nauseum. We talked about this in postgame
news conferences. I mean, if I'm a coach, like yesterday's
game with the charges, I say, my lost the game.

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You know he had a bad day. You know he
deserves but he's an all pro kicker. I expected more
from him. There's no harm in saying that, because everybody
in the world has said that after you see that,
But coaches will not do that anymore.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
I don't know why.

Speaker 4 (47:15):
You can't do that. So let's talk on two things
that we're touching on. First, the Draymond thing. One, without
really understanding the exchange between Draymont and Steve Kerr and
Draymond and his teammates, we really don't know.

Speaker 5 (47:31):
How the best take care of it.

Speaker 4 (47:32):
I will say this, and I've done this in terms
of players, sometimes players can get very emotional in the
heat of the moment. Sometimes you have to let them
walk away, deal with their emotions, and then re engage
when they're ready. Now, old school coaches wouldn't do that
because they want them to stand in the fire, to
do that, to be with the team at all times.

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But sometimes you have to let the emotional, high strung
players kind of walk away let them cool down and
then re engage them when they're kind of back and
clear headed in those things. So I do understand that tactic,
and that might be a thing that they've worked that
way Draymond, given some of the outbursts and how we

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know he can be emotional. That that's the way that
they handle that now, Jymon, when he re engages either
that day or after that, he has to apologize for like, hey, guys,
I got to keep my cool or whatever. Sometimes they
can't do it when it comes to coaching hard. You
still can coach today's players hard, but you have to
meet them where they're at. It's not yesteryear. They weren't

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parented by yesteryear's parents. You know, they weren't parented I
won't say sternly, but it's a different time and so
you got to meet them show them what I call
old school values, but you got to show them that
in a new school way so they can appreciate it.
It is, you know, requiring everybody to meet the student

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where he is, not you necessarily think that he should be.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
I don't necessarily think coaches have changed that much. I
think what it's made the coaches go in a different direction.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
And maybe I'm way off based on this.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
I think it's the media and the social media because
back in the day, when the coach would attack a
player and go crazy on him, there was no social media,
and more often than not, the coaches and the teams
kind of like owned the media that covered the team.
You know, they were like bought and paid for. They
really were. That's just the way it was. So the
coach could go to the media guy from a newspaper

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and say, you know, I kind of said and they
never had these group sessions if you remember maybe when
you played, it was like that as well. Right now,
after a game is over, there's like a ten or
fifteen minute cooling off period and they go into a
media possession, a media room, and they bring three or
four players and the coach into the room and everybody's
there to ask questions. Back in the day, they didn't

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have that that ten to fifteen minute cooling off period.
They opened the locker room and it was like a stampede.
Media went in there and they talked, and now particularly
it so maybe you didn't really hear what the coach
had to say publicly to the player.

Speaker 5 (50:06):
Yeah, it is different.

Speaker 4 (50:09):
But I will also say this when it comes to
everything that was done and yesteryear wasn't right either. It
probably wasn't right for head coaches to shake the face
mask of football players when they're trying to make a point.
It wasn't right for people to take a Bobby Knight
approach to yelling, screaming and demeaning players in front of everybody.
That's probably, yeah, it's probably not the right form. We've

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evolved as people when it comes to communication and those things.
Social media does have an impact on everybody. It impacts
how we have these gotcha moments, but it also impacts
how players think about themselves and others because you let
so many people have access to.

Speaker 5 (50:52):
Your mind with their words.

Speaker 4 (50:54):
You know, Johnny living in the basement can say whatever
he can say mean things and not have to face
those consequences of having to say it to the player's face.
There's a lot of this pressure that has kind of
been dumped upon players when it comes to everyone's thoughts
and opinions and critiques.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
There you go, all right, let's move to the NFL.
Right now, we got off that. I'm really clear, we
got that. Taking care of because it was interesting. I
got the Eagles at Buffalo today. Eagles are ten and five,
Bills are eleven and four, and both teams obviously are
going to the players. But for the Bills, they're at
home and the game may mean a little bit more
to them for the postseason because since the start, this
is amazingly I didn't know this. Since the start of

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twenty twenty four, counting the postseason, the Bills are sixteen
and one at home, all right, and they got to stop,
say Coln Barkley, that's it, because now Barkley is beginning
to get the ball like Derrick Henry did. I guess
when the weather gets a little colder, that's what they do.
They'd start running the football a little more. That's what
it's all about.

Speaker 4 (51:55):
Yeah, this is a big tess. And here's the thing
with the Bills. I will say this, the Bills maybe
might be one of the best teams in the league,
but they're not the most talented unit. So they have
to play the right way to win each and every week.
And if Josh Allen can't jump into the phone booth
and put on his superhero uniform, sometimes it can be

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difficult for them to find ways to win. But this
is gonna be the test because their biggest weakness has
been their inability to deal with physicality at the point
of attack and run games. So Saquon Barkley is going
to test them. They're gonna run the football, They're gonna
see if they can stack up and stop it. And
if the Bills have issues stopping the run. It is

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going to be some for shadowing of what's to come
in the postseason because everyone is going to attack them
in the same way. They're gonna run it at them
because they want to wear them down physically because they're
a smaller defense and they want to play keep away
from Josh Allen. They have to show up today because
they put bad tape on. Every playoff team is going
to look at that and they're going to tax them

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the same way.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
And Barkley's gonna go crazy today. Hen't even get the
blow by twenty five thirty times today. I mean, that's
what they got to do, the gogoest thing.

Speaker 4 (53:05):
But why wouldn't you, Why wouldn't you, Why wouldn't you
give it to him as many times as you can
let him impact the game. And they need to get
playoff ready the Eagles are quietly rounding in the form.
And we've talked we've forgotten about him, we don't talk
about him. But they get a win here, they mess
around and finished with well, what did you say? They
finished twelve wins. They're right back to where they want

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to be and they could be a very difficult team
to deal with in the postseason.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
And this is a big game.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
I mean, although we say they're both going to the playoffs,
this is a pretty big game.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
They got the Bears of the forty nine ers. It
was a big game.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
But the Bears have already clinched the NFC North because
of yesterday's situation with the Texas game. But forty nine
is quarterback Brock Perty. This is amazing to me. Last
week he threw for two ninety five and a career
high five touchdowns in that forty eight twenty seven winner
over the Colts. He had one hundred and fifty one
piercing darge and three touchdowns in the first half. He
finished twenty five for thirty five. He threw seven interceptions

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in his first four games, and that always kind of
really stabilize himself. My question is this, how does Perty
go last in the draft, and he's become such a
great NFL quarterback. Really, he really has. I mean people
will scotching their head when they drafted this guy.

Speaker 4 (54:17):
I'll say a few different things. One, he played in
college for a long time. If you look at what
he was at Iowa State, he's arguably the most decorated
player they've had, particularly a quarterback. Number of starts, broke,
all their records, had a lot of success. Goes to
the perfect system for him, even though he's mister Irrelevant,
It is the perfect spot for him to flourish. Kyle

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Shanahan is a great quarterback developer. The system is one
that makes the game easy for the quarterback, given the
run game and the way they match the passing game
with the run game. All those things, and he is
able to be who he's always been, which is a
point guard, a distributor, get the ball to the open guy,
get out the way, and that's what he does. So
it is a great story, but it's also a testament

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of how everything has to align, The system has to
match the player, and the coach has to be willing
to take the player to another level by developing him.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
You know, you talk about the Eagles slowly but surely
the coming of age and it can become a super
Bowl team. You know, let's not thinking about the forty
nine ers because they were like picked for death and
now all of a sudden they were eleven and four.
But the Bears, now, what kind of mindset is it?
The fact that they know they won the NFC yesterday,
they won the division, does that affect their play today?

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They are little more lack of days ago, maybe not
playing the starters as much because they've clinched that.

Speaker 4 (55:38):
No, because man, there's still more things that are out there.
You want to get the best possible seed that you
can get. So this isn't when you let your foot
off the gas, because remember when you go into the playoffs,
only one team gets to buy week you're going to
play the first weekend. You want to be playing your
best ball. As much as we talk about like oh
there's nothing to play for, there's always something to play for.

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The San Francisco forty nine ers can win the number
one seed, so they could be highly motivated to go
play the Bears. If the Bears don't match that intensity,
they're not only gonna get run out the building, they're
gonna get people hurt. So you have to come in
there ready to play. You got to come in there
with steelee focus, ready to rock, and if you're not,
then it's gonna be a long day for you. I

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think both teams to be highly motivated to play well.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
All right, Okay, question for you. Which team has been
a bigger fold job?

Speaker 3 (56:26):
All right?

Speaker 2 (56:27):
I'm talking about the Tampa Bay Bucks at Indianapolis Colts
because the Bucks were won six and two and they
once had a two game lead in the NFC South.
Now the Bucks are seven and eighth, and the good
news is I guess they're going to Miami to play
the Dolphins and they probably well, the Dolphins are coming
of age.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
A little bit.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
They're six to nine. But what happened to this team?
I mean, really and truly, it's amazing to me. They
were rocking and rolling and now they're seven and eight.

Speaker 4 (56:51):
Yeah, one of the biggest surprise, one of the bigger disappointments.
And you know you like old school coaching. Ty Bowles
put it directly on the play. Guys got to ask you,
Guys got to show up and do their job. They're
not doing what they've been asked to do that is
a problem.

Speaker 5 (57:06):
They need to make.

Speaker 4 (57:07):
Sure that they take care of business and get back
on track. But yeah, it's disappointing because the defense hasn't
played at the par Baker Mayfield. It's took a little
step back. Some of that was due to the injuries
on the perimeter. Didn't have Mike Evans and Chris Godwins
for long stretches of the season, had to do with
lesser guys.

Speaker 5 (57:27):
But they just haven't played well.

Speaker 4 (57:29):
And I am surprised because I thought this team was
going to be a sneaky team that we talked about
as one of the teams that could go to the show.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
All right now you talked about the Bears and the
forty nine ers possible Super Bowl tas Eagles, Bills, Right,
don't forget the Seattle Seahawks, and slowly, I mean they've
really been quiet. He's about a team that I mean
forty nine as people were talking about them a little bit,
the Seahawks. Right now, I don't think anybody was talking
about the toll the three Seahawks and they're going to
Carolina today to play the eight and seven Panthers. So

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no one really and truly was told about the Seahawks.
What do you think about the Seahawks.

Speaker 4 (58:04):
Great job Mike m McDonald, Great job John Snyder. They
move on from Pete Carrolyn. Into two years, They've completely
rebuilt the team, re established the culture the Hawks looking
like the Hawks. This is a physical, feisty team. They're
fast and athletic on defense. They can dominate you up
front with the talent. They're really good in the backhand,

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and they fly on the second level offensively, man, they
can mix it up in JSN, Jackson Smith and Jigbut
to me, right now, he's the best wide receiver in football.
Route running, pass catching, playmaking. He can do it all.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
From when they talk about Justin Jefferson and Jamal Chase,
his name never comes up.

Speaker 4 (58:41):
They doude bit flashy. But right now you look up
at the numbers like you talk about well over fifteen
hundred yards getting it done.

Speaker 5 (58:46):
Sam Donald's playing great.

Speaker 4 (58:47):
But the only question that you have about the Seattle Seahawks,
how is Sam Donald going to play when the lights
are the brightest? How is he going to perform? Last
week was a good thing. When they knocked off the
Rams and had to come back. He had to make
some plays. But he is the X factor. He is
the one that could hold him back from being a

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title contender, given how he has melted down sometimes on
biggest stages. And I know people say, well, oh he's
kicked it, hey man. A nothing like playoff pressure to
bring back and conjure up those old ghosts, those old
ghosts to see him do all pass they can show
back up in the postseasons.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
The I mean, it boggles the mind that this guy
was like throwing to the junk heap in the New
York Jets and now he may be a super Bowl quarterback.
I mean, is it the organization? It can't be hit
and all of a sudden he got become a better player.
How does that happen?

Speaker 4 (59:44):
No, I mean it's the environment and everything. It happens
because we're so quick to make judgments on quarterbacks. We
want them to be star quarterbacks right away, and no
one has the patience to either wait for them to
go through their struggles or to develop them.

Speaker 5 (59:59):
On the side.

Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
Because when you draft him, he was like, you gotta play,
you gotta plame, we gotta flame, we gotta see what
we got. It takes time, but no one has that
kind of patience anymore. That's why they struggle. He needed
a new environment, he needed time to mature, to become
the player that he's become.

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Saturday and Sunday morning right here on Fox Sports Radio
and the iHeart App. Okay, we got ass bucket coming up,
and only got the blame game. I'm sorry, the blame
game in about twelve minutes right now. But here's the deal.
And I normally you would not care at all about
this game. But you know, if you're a football sufficionado,
you'd say, wait a minute, what's happening here. There's a
little bit of life I'm talking about. The Saints are

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playing the Titans today in Tennessee. Saints are five and ten,
the Titans are three and twelve right now. But the
Titans have won two of their last three. All right,
maybe there's some hope over there. And why do they
why do they come to life all of a sudden.
I don't coach, I never have coach. I watched the
game and most of it I'm wrong, But I'm gonna

(01:01:59):
take a guess, right and you could slop me around
Bucket Brooks because I may be wrong. Their running game
has gotten better and that could only help a quarterback.
Tony Pollard right now is average almost four point six
yards of carry. All right, He's pushing close to one
thousand yards this year.

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
Will you have a running game? It could only help
the quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
And over the last two weeks Tennessee and I checked
on this has had six ten play drives that eats
up the clock and helps the quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
Am I onto something here?

Speaker 4 (01:02:30):
I mean you might be onto something when it comes
to that, like the running game is the quarterback's best friend.
It does allow you to keep maintain better control of
the game and keep them out of negative situations like
long yardage obvious passing situations. So yeah, there are to it.
They've made a considered effort. And I'll be honest, kim
Ward has gotten better chemistry and connectivity with the younger

(01:02:52):
guys that he's playing with. They got a bunch of
young receivers and it takes a while for those guys
to job and connect, and so they finally connected.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
Now, okay, I'll tell you this. Cam Wood right now
very under publicized as a number one pick. Maybe he
wanted it that way.

Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
You didn't hear much about him. This team, as I mentioned,
is three and twelve, but you look at his stats.
He's passed for almost three thousand yards by like twenty
nine hundred yards right now, and it's touchdown to interception
for a one, you know, one year rookie. Now, I
think it's not bad for a three and twelve team.
Thirteen and seven, I mean is that. I think that's
passable really and passing the average is about sixty percent.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
I think he's done well. I think he'll do well
in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (01:03:33):
Yeah, he's done well, and the next coach to have
an opportunity to continue to refine that development. But he's
shown promise, and if you're the Titans front office, you're
excited about some of the flashes that he's displayed, and
you just want him to continue to stay on that track,
to continue to be on the right track when it
comes to it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
Another one of the bigger disappointments this year, the Arizona
Cardinals at three and twelve to Cincinnati. Toy played the
Bengals five and ten, and the bad news for the
Cincinnati Bengals. Obviously, both teams not going to the playoffs,
but the Bengals really showed everybody how good their offense
was last week against the bad Miami team. And there's
a good chance right now the Bengals could win out
because they got Cleveland next week. So they finished seven

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and ten and that gets everybody hope for next year,
and they'll say, well, Borough was hurt, so they're not
going to do any major changes.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
They gotta fix that defense. But that's what happens every year.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
They get that slow start, they come on like gang
buses at the end, they got a little bit of
a winning streak, and they don't do anything in the offseason.
So to me, you gotta be boof up, beef up
the defense.

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
You gotta do that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
But if they win today and they'll beat Cleveland next
week seven and ten, everybody's gonna be happy to say, hey,
you know Borrough was hurt and all of a sudden
it came one strong at the end.

Speaker 4 (01:04:49):
Yeah, they'll talk about that, but I don't think you
can take being so serious until they invest in the defense,
not a new coordinator. All golden is fine. They get
rid of lou Ana rumo the players. The lack of
talent on that side holds them back. They haven't been
able to kind of crack the code when it comes
to building a defense through the draft. And then you
need Joe Burrow to be available. He has to be

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available all seventeen games to give them the best chance
of being able to win.

Speaker 5 (01:05:15):
And if he's unavailable, it just.

Speaker 4 (01:05:16):
Makes it very, very tough for them to win because
he is so much to them. He takes much offense
to do.

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
Today's signed Joe fleckows his backup for next year.

Speaker 4 (01:05:28):
I mean, they can. I mean, if Joe still wants
to play, why not, you know, why not let him play?

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
We talked about Lamar Jackson earlier today and the leadership qualities,
I mean, and Joe came out and kind of left
a lot of gray matter out there about a week
ago at his news conference, and the question was that
a lot of people run with it. Does he want
to remain a bangle? Does he want to stay here?
Is he happy here? You know that kind of filters
over a locker room, especially when the team is losing.

(01:05:58):
I think that and I always listen to Joe very
carefully the way he chooses his words. But sometimes you
say things and you're kind of sorry you say him,
and you put your foot in your mouth. I think
as a quarterback, as the kind of face of the team,
you kind of watch it a little bit. I think
he left a lot of doubt out there. It wasn't
a good look. I don't think it was a good look.

Speaker 4 (01:06:20):
No, not a good look. I mean, well, I wouldn't
say it's a bad look. He just doesn't know. And
if you're a backup quarterback like Joe flaccoes at age man,
he probably wants to play a little bit. Can't figure
it out. He likes hanging around, but he knows this
Joe Burrows team. Is that situation? Is that a good
situation for you? Do you want more? He has to
only he knows the answer to that. He has to

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figure that for it out.

Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
Well, I mean you hit it on the head.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
I mean, quarterbacks just want to, you know, win that
They want to play the best they can and they
want to go to a super Bowl. Obviously he's got
great stats, but at the end of the day, no
one cares because it's all about winning a super Bowl.
And there's a good chance he may never see that again,
He's been there once and again that Joe Burrow is
going to be like the Dan Marino of the year.

Speaker 3 (01:07:04):
Twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
That's he's gonna be like Dan Marino was great stats,
but really nothing to show for it.

Speaker 4 (01:07:11):
Yeah, that's why you got to win it when you
get a chance to get there. They got there, they
had it. The game was there for than to win it.
They win that Super Bowl. Maybe everything changes in the
Cincinnati in terms of their team building approach, but they didn't.
And now day on the verge of having to reset, reset,
the franchise, reset everything kind of start a new.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
But I will tell you this much, I think part
of the problem was Joe because I think he went
public kind of forcing the hand of management to sign
T Higgins and Chase and I really believe he did that.
I mean, I get it, you're a quarterback. You want
to get great receivers to be on your team with you.
But at the expense of what at the expense of
the defense. And I think that the public really and

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truly rallied behind Joe Burrow and they were really wanted
to see T Higgins. I think they could have success
with a better defense, even if they gave up t Higgins.

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
Maybe I'm wrong. I mean, it's great to have those
two guys, but at what cost.

Speaker 4 (01:08:07):
Yeah, But like they're not spending money on anybody, so
they had an opportunity. There've been a bunch of guys
to go through. Their Jesse base went through there. You
know what I'm saying. At one point, Logan Wilson and
Sam Hubbard. They had personnel, so it's not necessarily they
wouldn't spend money and you can pay two wide receivers
and get it done. The Philadelphia Eagles have done it

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with Jalen Hurts and DeVante Smith and AJ Brown. They
have a high priced guy in Saquon Barkley in the backfield.
It doesn't stop him. It's about how you draft and
how you developed. The reason they able to do that
is because on defense, most of their draftees are on
that side of the ball. When you look at how
they're able to do it. So for the Bengals, they
have to draft and develop better. And they got a

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coach around whatever deficiency shows up with playing so many
young guys, and the coach got to work it out.
He has to figure it out. I just don't know
when it comes to Zach Taylor, if Zach Taylor can
be the leader of men that you need in some
of these situations to change the personality of the team.
I just don't know if his personality resonates like.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
That, and anybody else in the situation not making the
playoffs in three years will be out on the street
looking for a job. I'm sure he'll be back next
year because he's got another contract. He's good to the
twenty twenty seven. That's what I'm hear in this contra.
And then they don't want to pay a guy not
to work.

Speaker 4 (01:09:25):
That's the deal, absolutely not. No free launches, right.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
It amaze really everyone just I don't know. But I
want to ask you, if you've been around the game,
you know what's going on. You've been around personnel people, scouts.
What does it take how you talk about getting draft picks.

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
And picking the wrong guy?

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
What kind of talent must one have when they look
at the draft and they've got to colleges and watch
these kids play, and the Bengals have missed on so
many of them.

Speaker 3 (01:09:55):
Why is it? Is it bad luck or these guys
just don't know how to scout a player?

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
How does that work? You want to hire a scout, Well,
how do you hire a scout? Not necessarily, you don't
have to be a great player to be a good.

Speaker 4 (01:10:07):
Scout, right, No, But it has to be outlined exactly
what you're looking for first from a team perspective, what
kind of character, personality, work, ethic, leadership type person that
you want to bring in the locker room. And then
the next part of it is the skill. Where is
he at with his skill? Is he coachable? Does he

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have the core traits like the size, strength, power, quickness,
all those things to do it? And then it's looking
at what he's doing in college and trying to project
how he would do in your system in the pros.
And you're looking for those things because the league makes it.

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Where how someone fits in the scheme is the biggest
part of the evaluation. If we have someone who is
like Lester Hayes, a bump and run corner, but we
having him play and his own system that plays off
where he's not going to be greater at because he's
been a bumping run corner and he's never been asked
to play seven eight yards off and uses backpuddal. So

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you have to make sure that everything lines up. That's
why you want to ask your coaches specifically, what do
we need to be successful in this scheme? And you
build it that way. Interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
I'm glad to hear that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
Okay, Now, a little bit of fun right now because
I looked at the USA Today the other day and
they are the top twenty five quarterbacks of this century.
All right, I want to give you the top five.
I want to see if you agree. I'm gonna start
with five and go down, all right. Number five, Drew Brees,
Number four, Aaron Rodgers, This is from the last twenty

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five years. Number three, Peyton Manning, number two, Patrick Mahomes,
and number one Tom Brady.

Speaker 4 (01:11:51):
You have thoughts on Matt, all right, give me the
list again, Drew Brees. Who's the listrees?

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
Okayfe Aaron Rodgers, four, Peyton Manning three, Patrick Mahomes two,
and Tom Brady won.

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
And I'm not a big on list, but.

Speaker 4 (01:12:07):
You know, I'm just I'm okay, yeah, I'm okay with
that list. I think Tom Brady deserves to be at
the time because of all the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
I'm throwing some names out there. Josh Allen, He's.

Speaker 4 (01:12:17):
Like, not even nah uh nah, because like he doesn't
have any notable wins. They haven't been to Super Bowl,
he won an m v P. He has like rushing stuff.
He's a really good player, but I can't say that
he's one of the Yeah, no, we can leave him off.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
Okay, Jared Goff, Now you can't put him in that category.
Matthew Stafford close, close.

Speaker 4 (01:12:47):
Matthew Staffor. You can make, you can make, you can
make a case for him being on the fringes. All right,
all right, what about yeah, I mean nah, I mean
he's fine, but no, Okay, Brett Favre, he's still included
in that, like he's I mean by the time he

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was in doing that like last week. So the two thousands, Nah,
the two thousands version of Brett fab No, we can't
put him in there.

Speaker 3 (01:13:18):
Okay, Joe Burrow, we can't, not know. I'm just throwing
some names out there the last twenty five years.

Speaker 4 (01:13:28):
A Cam Newton, Nah, because if I can't put Josh
and I can't put can the MVP.

Speaker 3 (01:13:33):
Okay, he wasn't MVP. Donovan mcnad No, not top five.

Speaker 4 (01:13:39):
No, they can't make it like Lamar, Nah, he has
two MVPs. But all those guys are lumped in the
same bucket, right, So one through five, it's cool now
when we're talking six through ten. You got some the
base because you can put Roethlisberger in the top ten

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giving his two super Bowls. You can put Matthew Stafford
in statistical success. I just can't put that like I mean,
I guess if you want to put Eli, but Eli
doesn't have any numbers to back up.

Speaker 9 (01:14:11):
Here, be with you.

Speaker 3 (01:14:12):
I mean, look, his lifetime red was five hundred. I'm
with you on that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
He's got, he's got the name, he's got the Super Bowls.
That's what's going to get him in the Hall of Fame. Really,
that's it.

Speaker 4 (01:14:21):
Yeah, yeah, he has two super rights, so I can't.
He has two super Bowls. I can't. And he played
great in those two super Bowls. I cannot knock him right,
terrible otherwise, but great in the Super Bowl. Right.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
And it's going to be a week quarterback class coming
out of college this year. I believe it, really, but
you never know.

Speaker 3 (01:14:40):
You never know.

Speaker 4 (01:14:41):
But we'll see.

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
I'm seeing big this week. I don't see any big names.
All right, I'm going to tell you right now about it.
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Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
And by the way, you gotta let it go right now.
It's that time. Why the blame game is freaking next?

Speaker 9 (01:15:15):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 3 (01:15:18):
Oh the blame game coming right up. It's about twelve
minutes before the top of the hour.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
By the way, at the top of the hour, which
would be eight am on the East Coast Grant Coast,
Sell joins Mike Harmon right here on Fox Sports Radio,
and we're live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. She's
Buckie Brooks and Andy Furman, and of course it's that time.
Let's do it the play game with me.

Speaker 9 (01:15:36):
It's all your fault, dupe, it's your fault. Why is
all your fault?

Speaker 3 (01:15:44):
Maybe it's everyone's fault.

Speaker 9 (01:15:47):
The liar that's why there's the blame game.

Speaker 3 (01:15:49):
The blame game.

Speaker 9 (01:15:50):
Let's figure out who to blame. The blame game.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
All right, we're not gonna blame you. Lead to love
you job these last two weeks. We're gonna miss you
after today. And this is your Swans. You're handling the
playing game.

Speaker 3 (01:16:01):
Are you ready?

Speaker 11 (01:16:02):
I am ready, and I appreciate the sentiment, Andy, and
I'm looking forward to it as well.

Speaker 7 (01:16:07):
Well.

Speaker 10 (01:16:07):
The Indianapolis Colts the reeling as we've been talking about,
who do.

Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
You blame for that?

Speaker 4 (01:16:13):
Gosh, I guess I have to blame Daniel Jones and injuries.
If Daniel Jones doesn't get hurt, the coach still a Roland.
He was playing really good football for them early in
the year. Then the injuries kind of ended his campaign,
and so they haven't had a quarterback. You don't have
a quarterback, you don't have a chance.

Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
That's the easy answer. The real answer is this, lou
Anna Romo. You blame him. I'll tell you why. He's
the official scapegoat of the NFL. He was fired by
the Cincinnati Bengals. They blamed him for the laser last
year as defensive coordinator. He goes to the Colts. They're
losing now, so it's quite easy to point the fingers. Hey,
Louis Anna Romo did it. He came from the Bengals.

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He was the curse of the Bengals and he came
to Indianapolis, and that's why we're losing.

Speaker 11 (01:16:56):
Guys, it's unreal that both the Lions and Chiefs are
out of the playoffs.

Speaker 10 (01:17:00):
But someone must be blamed for each Who is that?

Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
This is easy, Okay, Because the Lions are out because
they lost Ben Johnson, that's easy.

Speaker 3 (01:17:08):
He goes to the Bears.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
It's a big loss because he got the head coach,
Dan Campbell. He's not a calling plays, I mean, so
you know it was a big loss. That's number one.
The Chiefs, they're out of the playoffs. Why I'm gonna
go go here, I'm gonna go on the stretch, you
might think, but it's true. It's a Taylor Swift situation.
Travis Kelsey's so busy with her, and the whole team
is saying, well, if Travis could get involved with his

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off the field activities, so could I. And I don't
think they were entirely concentrating on football. Maybe even Andy
Reid was. I don't know. I don't know what was
happening over there. I know they're getting a lot older.
Maybe they're tired. I get that as well. But I
think the Taylor Swift situation was a big factor in
the Kansas City Chiefs.

Speaker 13 (01:17:49):
So the Taylor Swift factor is why the Chiefs have
fallen apart because they're not focused and distracted. Okay, Taylor Swift,
Taylor Swift from Travis and Travis was not able.

Speaker 3 (01:18:01):
To focus on Hollywood news story.

Speaker 4 (01:18:05):
Hollywood news story, so they're not able to focus on ball. Okay,
So Taylor Swift is the blame for the Chiefs. Dan
Campbell's to blame for the Lions. Look, they had turnover
throughout the coordinator situation. Assistant coaches a lot of players
and just didn't get the right fits, particularly on offense.
John Morton did not was not able to sustain what
Ben Johnson was able to successfully do. He took it

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over and it's too much for Dan Campbell. They got
to fix all that. So Dan Campbell's to blame and
Taylor Swift. Dan Campbell, Taylor Swift. Wow, do you agree
with me?

Speaker 6 (01:18:36):
Dan?

Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
It's good? Do you agree with me?

Speaker 4 (01:18:38):
Wow? Taylor Taylor Taylor Swift. Wow, all right, all.

Speaker 10 (01:18:43):
Right, next, Fellas.

Speaker 11 (01:18:45):
The last time the Jets made the playoffs was after
the twenty ten season. Rex Ryan was the coach and
Mark Sanchez the quarterback. They're out again this year. But
who's to blame?

Speaker 4 (01:18:56):
The overall organization has been dysfunctional. Too many new coaches,
too many new general managers, not operating on the same page.
The only way that you can be successful as a team,
everyone has to be a complete alignment from top to bottom.
They haven't been aligned at why they haven't been successful.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
It's easy to blame because it always starts at the top,
and the man at the top with the Jets is
Woody Johnson. And Woody, if you're really interested in a
winning football team, stop fooling around with the band aids.

Speaker 3 (01:19:23):
All right, the band aids are doing good. You're pretty
successful with the band aids.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
All right, mister Johnson, start playing and start working for
your football team. It's embarrassing, it really, it's embarrassing that
New York has two stinking football teams.

Speaker 3 (01:19:39):
It's really embarrassing, Fellas.

Speaker 11 (01:19:45):
Brock Perty had five touchdowns for two hundred and ninety
five yards last week against the Colts.

Speaker 10 (01:19:50):
Who's to blame for him being the last player picked
in the draft?

Speaker 4 (01:19:53):
Ooh there, the scals didn't appreciate his talent. I'll be honest.
I broadcast the East Chris Ramble when he was a
starring participant in it, and I did not see this
for him. I think the scouse overlooked him. But really,
Brock Purtty got a lot better over time.

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
You know what, in this situation, I'm not blaming anybody
because who thought the last mister irrelevant would do so well?
Really and truly, I mean, this is one of those things.
That guy was going with a horseshoe up his rear end.
He just got lucky.

Speaker 6 (01:20:22):
He did.

Speaker 3 (01:20:22):
He got lucky. That's what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
It'll never happen again. The last guy drafted, he's gonna
do this again. Never happened, Bucker, never will right?

Speaker 4 (01:20:30):
Wow? Negative Nancy Ny over there?

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
Oh come on, you really think it's gonna have the
guy we'll see who gets drafted last this year, mister irrelevant.

Speaker 3 (01:20:40):
If he does anything next year, he probably won't even
make the ball club. There we go, all we'll see
you next week. We'll see you next year. Have a
happy healthy new Year. We'll see you next year. Stay tuned.
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