Andy Furman and Bucky Brooks Talk Jerry Jeudy Trade, NFL Draft Prospects, Clark vs. Maravich and More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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I tire buying should be And I tell you what
I would be remiss. Well, first of all, I hope
you moved the clock. I hope you moved the clock
because now it's six oh one am on the East coast,
so the clock has moved forward. Remember spring ahead, So
get with us right now, come on join us. Okay,
But I would be remissed not to even mention one

(00:46):
of the biggest stories, maybe in not in your mind,
but in mind, one of the biggest stories that occurred
this week in the world of sports, which showed me
how normal athletes are. You know, it's too often that
these athletes can banged and brew us then attacked on
sports radio behind the microphone. I've done it, I admit it,
and sometimes they deserve it. But when I saw Jason

(01:08):
Kelsey's retirement, when I saw his retirement speech, I don't
care who you are. If you didn't get a tingle
or maybe even a tear in your eye, you know
you're not breathing, your heart's not working properly. Really, I
thought it was wonderful. I mean, he was up there
and you see a professional football player, a minemouth man,
a huge, big man with that beard, crying and I

(01:30):
loved it. I loved every minute of it. It showed
me how human he was. And I tell you what,
he's going to go on do something great with his
life right now after a thirteen year career in football.
And what he said is I couldn't have picked a
better team to play for. When I wanted to play
in the National Football League, I wanted to stay one
team my entire career, and he did and it was
with the Philadelphia Eagles. I'm going to introduce my buddy,

(01:53):
my partner, Bucky Brooks. Bucky, did you see that Jason
Kelsey retirement speech this week?

Speaker 3 (02:00):
I did see Jason kelsey retirement speech. He's one of
the best when it comes to all of it. But
his presentation was out outstanding.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
It's tremendous. What about brothers entering the Hall of Fame.
You know, they both got to go in the Hall
of Fame, you know, Travison Kelsey. I think that's wonderful.
From the same school, no less, University of Cincinnati. I
think it's great. I really do.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Look, man, I think their stories remarkable. I think the
way that they've kind of taken the league by storm,
the way that they have kind of earned go jackets
on the field. But the stuff that's going to help
them become household names is the stuff they've done off
the field, their podcasts, their personality, the way they interact
with the media. I think they're done a really really
good job of just expanding the brand, and that's gonna

(02:41):
make it where both of those guys gonna be first
battle Hall of Famers, right.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
And I love studying on an upbeat, positive note because
I'm going to go right down the cropper right now
because I'm talking about the Cleveland Browns. Day kind of
bolsted their receiving rotation. They got Jerry Judy and that
trade won't be complete until the new league year begins
on Wednesday, but they traded with the Denver Broncos. Jerry
Judy basically coming up there. If you know anything about
Jerry Judy, it's gonna be twenty five years old next month.

(03:05):
This past season in Denver, he had fifty four receptions,
seven hundred and fifty eight yards and two touchdowns. But
when I heard the name Jerry Judy, what I thought
about was Steve Smith on the NFL Network several years ago,
and I think we have him. Do we have Steve Smith?
Can you give me an okay on that? Do we
because if we do, I want to hear Steve Smith.

(03:25):
What do you have to say about Jerry Judy? Go ahead?

Speaker 4 (03:28):
I called out to him because on my podcast cut
to it, I just talked about guys that maybe have
not showed up in a way or in the manner,
and so they weren't. That I've used to describe him
in the past was a jag just they got.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
And so when I.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
Saw him he's playing well, I wanted to say to
him face to face, like, hey, I know I said
some things in the past I probably shouldn't have, and
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
That's what I wanted to say.

Speaker 5 (03:56):
To him.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
His response, Mike, Rob.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
And Bucky he was ninja ninja.

Speaker 5 (04:05):
Yes, I'm using the word ninja's I'm just using the
word ninja. I don't mess with you.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
And it was a curse word, and so I was
like all right, and then he repeated it, so I'll
say it again.

Speaker 5 (04:15):
I'm sorry that I.

Speaker 6 (04:16):
Said you were a jag, just a guy who's an
average wide receiver they used the first round.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Pick on that isn't doing anything. I hope today that
you actually show up.

Speaker 6 (04:23):
In a way that you haven't showed up in the
last couple of years since they draft you. So if
you ever got a problem with aged eighty nine, I'm
sorry for saying that you're an average wide receiver that
they eventually will move on. And when teams called me
and asking should they trade for you, I will say no,
don't trade for Jerry Judy because he's mentally unable to
handle constructive criticism for crumb people who watch specifically, can

(04:48):
he be a wide receiver?

Speaker 5 (04:49):
He could be a wide receiver. He's a Tier three.
Go back into the studio. I'm done now.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Ouch out Steve Smith of the NFL Network several years
ago on Jerry Judy. All right, all right, Bucky Brooks,
a former NFL player himself, your take on that was
Steve Smith fair? Is the right assessment of Jerry Judy.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
For disclosure, I've known Jerry Judy since when he was
in high school. I coached Madi some camps, so I
know him so like, I know the kid really well
in life. To say I know Steve Smith well from
either working together at Carolina, I'll say this. I'll say
that today's generation, whenever they hear criticism, particularly when it
comes from Afar and when it comes from like the

(05:32):
older generation, they feel like people are hating on them.
And so what Jerry Judy perceived Steve Smith's criticisms or
the things that Steve was saying, even if he was
saying it in a constructive manner, he feels like Steve
was kind of out of lineing out of pocket for
the way in which he said it.

Speaker 7 (05:50):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Jerry Jud's first round pick. Jerry Judy has been a
little disappointing in terms of the production didn't match where
he was picked at. So his performance production hasn't matched
his draft status. When you look at the tape, you
see a talented player, but you see someone who's been
inconsistent since he stepped into the league. Getting out of
Denver will give him an opportunity to kind of rebuild

(06:13):
his career, but he'll get to do it in a
role that's probably more suited to him. When he goes
to Cleveland, he goes as the number two receiver because
Amari Cooper is established as the number one. That might
be a better role for Judy than being a true
number one because he doesn't have to carry to pass
the game.

Speaker 7 (06:28):
He just has to be a contributor.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Well, I will say this. You know you talk about
criticism with athletes. I think there's more credibility when a
former athlete criticizes an athlete when a schmuck like me
goes behind the microphone and criticizes an athlete in the years,
and you know, the first thing he says, you didn't
play the game. But it's true. I didn't play the game,
but I get paid to have an opinion. That's my opinion,

(06:51):
and I believe me I faced the wrath of many
a coaching athlete throughout my career because I've criticized them.
But your take on a guy like myself if who
never played the game, criticizing someone not in the same
manner that Steve smith did, but just saying, hey, he
should have had that, he should do this. Things like that,
you'll take on a guy who never played the game
criticizing an athlete.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Look, I think all opinions should be well researched, and
as long as they come from a place where there
were research and it's in depth and thorough, then it
should be fine. I think the big thing when it
comes to guys who haven't played who are giving opinions
is not necessarily the critique, it's the tone. We live

(07:34):
in an era now where everything came about making these
critiques personal. You know, we would go over the top,
talk about like Steven A. Smith us talking about players
being scrubs or things that would kind of incite that
were inflammatory. As long as it's a legitimate criticism and
you can like research it and you can document it

(07:56):
in short, Look, a player won't ever take issue with that.

Speaker 7 (08:00):
They may not like it, but they can't take issue
with it.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
But if it becomes personal instead of professional, then it
becomes a bigger issue.

Speaker 7 (08:07):
In one that you have to deal with in a
different way.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Agreed, Okay, so you mentioned the fact that Amari Cooper's
right there. They got a great tight end and David
Jaalku over there. So I think that right now the
Cleveland Brown's are in a great situation. But the biggest
need I have to say right now for the Cleveland
Browns is for Deshaun Watson to stay healthy and more
than that, play consistently. Well, that's what he's got to do,
and I think that's a big question rather than that.
This Cleveland Browns roster is somewhat loaded in that division.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
Look, I mean it's loaded. It was loaded last year.
I think last year you could tell how talented the
roster was when they had so many injuries, but yet
they still were able to compete and make it to
the playoffs. Now, with Deshaun Watson coming back, the expectation
he's going to be healthy. The expectation is also that's
going to play at a high level because the talent
around him is spectacular.

Speaker 7 (08:52):
It just puts more pressure on Deshaun Watson.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
I mean, I can't imagine having more pressure than he
already has, but it kind of comes apparent he has
to play at a high level as a quarterback. What
you want to do is we always talk about some
around in high end quarterbacks with great talent. Well, he
has great talent around him, so we should just we
should expect to see Deshaun Watson perform at a Pro
Bowl caliber.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
I agree, right Dan, I tell you what, before this
trade was made and certainly be solidified on Wednesday, that's
when the NFL season basically starts. One of the bigger
needs right now with the Cleveland Browns, I thought was
a wide receiver. That need now is to be full
with Jerry Judy. Look, I'm not going to go in
the same camp as Steve Smith and say everything that
Steve Smith said. And I never had heard that term jagg.

(09:35):
Had you heard that that term just a guy jag?
Is that commonplace in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
It's commonplace, like around the locker room, to talk about
guys just being a guy, not being anything special, you know.
I think that's what he was doing, and the way Steve,
the way Stave Steve said, he obviously put a little
extra on it. But yeah, it's a term just commonly
thrown around in.

Speaker 7 (09:58):
The locker room.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Okay, I think right now we could say with the
Browns need obviously them one, Deshaun Watson to play like
an elite quarterback. Number two. I think they need a
little more speed and maybe a little more size and
consistency up front. That's what they need right there. Other
than that, they are in a tough division that maybe
the toughest division in football. Either there were Baltimore and
I don't even know if I'm going to rate the
Cincinnati Bengals up there right now, because they got a

(10:20):
lot of questions on that team right now, including the
health of their quarterback Joe Burrow with that thumb injury.
So we got to you know, I'm not putting the
Bengals in the mix right yet, but Baltimore and Cleveland
will be right there.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Look, it's always gonna be a very competitive division when
you just think about like the Browns. The Bengals are talented,
the Baltimore Ravens were the best team in the league
for most of the year last year, and then the
Pittsburgh still they should bounce back. That division is always
competitive and it's gonna come down to quarterback play. Because
of that, it puts more pressure on Deshaun Watson to

(10:54):
play like the player that the Cleveland Browns expected when
they gave him their hefty contract. Will see if he's
what they thought he was this season, because he has
to be. If not, it's not like they can move
on from him. But uh, the trade becomes just magnified
if he doesn't play up to the standard expectations. With
Jerry Judy and Mark Cooper, David and jok who Nick

(11:16):
Chubb coming back, a talented offensive line.

Speaker 7 (11:19):
And a new offensive coordinator.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yeah, if it doesn't work now, then I don't know
if it ever will for Deshawwass.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah, I hear you right now. But let's talk about
the Denver Broncos right now. With our Jerry Judy, I
think number one, I think you have Marvin Mims Junior.
He'll be stepping up a little bit. But I will
tell you here right now, and I would be willing
to make this prediction. I think it'll be coming true.
Denver will be one of the worst teams in the
National Football League next year. And I hate to say that. Well,
I don't hate saying that now because Bill Belichick is
no longer the coach. They could be right there, one

(11:46):
two two one With the New England Patriots.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
What you said about the Patriots.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
The Patriots and the Denver Broncos are probably the worst
two teams in the National Football League next year.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
Okay, I just want to make sure I clearly heard that.
I don't know if I don't know if I would
say that they're one of the two worst teams. I
will say this that the talent drain will certainly hurt them,
like them moving on from so many players. But Seampagne
is a really good coach, and with good coaches, they
find a way to figure it out. It's one of
the things that we've seen from Pittsburgh over the years

(12:19):
when they've had up or down rosters.

Speaker 7 (12:21):
Mike Tomman has found a way to lead them to wins.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
With Sean Payton, the expectation is that he will find
a way to lead them to wins. I don't think
they would be down at the bottom bottom as you're
saying with the New England Patriots. But yeah, he has
a lot of work to do. He has his work
cut off for him, for sure, no doubt about that.
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I mean it was a great win. But the a
CC tournament is next weekend. And I don't want to say, like, hey,
you can't celebrate the regular season stuff, but the tournament
is everything.

Speaker 7 (14:54):
The tournament means a lot.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
The regular season is the regular season title is great
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But you know, you celebrate, you move on, and then
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Speaker 2 (15:08):
Okay, I want to talk about a quarterback who's getting
banged and bruised and beat up pretty good. Talk about
justin fields. Every time we talk about justin fields, they
always have the same question, can this guy become a
franchise quarterback? I'll tell you right now. One of the
few terms in the world of sports. I can't stand
the culture. You know, I don't know what that even
means on the coaches use it all a culture, you know,

(15:28):
you know, culture is winning. You win, you have a culture? Okay.
And another term is franchise quarterback. Stop using that phrase please,
because what it does it sets, at least for the fans,
unrealistic high expectations for everybody. That's what it does, media, fans,
whatever it might be. Because when you say someone like
a Justin Fields is a quote franchise quarterback, they wanted

(15:51):
to play like Patrick Mahomes and look for him to
play that way. It's not realistic. But more than that,
you can win with a Justin Fields not playing like
Patrick Holmes. If he's in the right system, he could
be like Lamar Jackson. Am I right? He could be
like Lamar Jackson running the football. I know he can.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
I mean he can be. I mean, I think we're
at a point right now. We're in the National Football League.
The players that are coming in are coming in with
different skill sets, and it's important for the team the
coach that's going to build around him is that you
take them where they are and you build around what
they do well instead of hoping that they can be

(16:31):
something else. You take what they do really well, you
build upon that, then you hope to expand it over time.
With Justin Fields, I would say his strengths his superpowers
are obviously his athleticism, his running skills. Can he be
a confident pocket passer? He is shown at times that
he can be a confident pocket passer, but that's not
necessarily the strength of his game. We have seen when

(16:52):
they've played to his strengths. He's been a productive quarterback,
he's won games, he's done those things, but the Bears
don't want that. It doesn't appear to the Bears want
that style of quarterback. And that's okay. I think what
we all have to kind of do when it comes
to young quarterbacks, you got to look at not only
the quarterback and their talent, you got to look at
what did you put around him to succeed. And I'll

(17:13):
be honest with you, we on the outside we have
become the worst at because our criticism of the young
quarterback really makes it impossible for them to flourish and grow.

Speaker 7 (17:25):
We want instant grits.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
We want them to come from college to the pros
and we want them to be stars right away.

Speaker 7 (17:30):
And it's not a realistic expectation.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
So whether it's Chicago and Justin Fields or what happened
with Mac Jones in New England, our lack of patience
on the outside has ruined and impacted a bunch of
young quarterbacks in this league. And the great organizations have
an ability to ignore the noise and they focus on
the plan and the process. When it comes to the
young quarterbacks. My hope is for Justin Fields and for

(17:53):
Max Jones and some of the other quarterbacks that they
find a situation that allows them to kind of grow
at the pace which they're ready, and then we get
a chance to see their talent flurish when they're actually
ready to play.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
I love that, you know what, because back in the day,
and it wasn't too long ago, when they drafted a quarterback,
he'd be an understudy, staying on the sidelines with a
clipboard to learn the game, to learn what it's all about.
But now maybe, and maybe I'm wrong, but maybe because
of the big salaries and the quote expectations of these
draft picks, that's why they're thrown to the wolves and
they're paying these guys people, right, is that it?

Speaker 3 (18:27):
Yes, it's not even a big buss because you got
to remember the CBA changed in twenty eleven, like when
Cam Newton came in right after the Sam Bradford draft,
Like the first round quarterback became a cheaper.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Right, they had slotting.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
They actually yes, yeah, so they actually became more dispensable,
more disposable because like you weren't as invested in terms
of like monetarily in them as you were some of
the other guys. What has happened though, is the smarter
Yardy crowd, right, We've said that, oh, you got to
do it with the guy on a Ricky contract, and

(18:58):
so the five years of the Ricky contract makes us
accelerate the process. We want the team to be a
winner when the quarterback is the cheapest.

Speaker 7 (19:07):
And we have rushed a lot of.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
These guys onto the field despite us saying, hey, they
should need a year, they need time, they need this,
it doesn't matter. We feel like once we take them high,
we got to put them onto the field, and a
lot of times they're not ready, and a lot of
times they've been overdrafted or misevaluated because you always hit
it for cross quarterbacks get pushed up, but they really

(19:30):
shouldn't get pushed up in the process. You have to
grade the player for what the player is talent wise
and for his long term potential. And a lot of
these quarterbacks that are taken at the top of the
board were not the best players in the draft. They
were just the best option at a quarterback position that
was of need for the teams that were drafting at

(19:51):
the top, and that's why they haven't panned out.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Well, I'm looking at Justin Fields from last season, two
hundred twenty seven completions three into seventy attempts, about a
sixty two percent complet average, passed for over twenty five
hundred yards, and he had what nine interceptions and sixteen touchdowns? Okay,
these aren't bear statistics. You could win with that on
his career sixty one percent completion average. So what's the problem.
Is he not that good? Or is there no market

(20:14):
for him? Are the Bears asking too much in return
for him? Is that why they're not going to move him?
But I can't move him. The real reason I think
that there's so many rumors going around swirling that he's
not going to be the Bears quarterback next he is
quite simple. The Bears have the number one pick, and
when we have the number one pick with a big
time quarterback coming out of college like a Kaela Williams,
you got to draft a quarterback of the number one pick.

(20:35):
So Justin Fields is out going to be pushed out
the door. And I think that perhaps all the negativity
is not fair because I don't think he's that bad.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
It doesn't mean that you have to stick with him.
My old thing with the Justin Fields things has been this,
It's been a zop parper that's been taking place for
like a year and some change. Right, So, even before
we knew that the Bears were going to have the
numb one pick, the conversation was about Justin Fields and
this and that and Justin Fields because they we knew
the Bears were going to have two picks and one
of them was coming from the Carolina Panthers, and so

(21:09):
it's never really been fair than Justin Fields to be
able to grow on the job. For me, I'm tired
of just the Justin Fields versus Kayleb Williams conversation. I
can't wait for the draft to take place so the
Bears will finally take Kaylin Williams and we can move
on on the Justin Fields thing. As much as I
want to blame the organization, I blame us because this

(21:29):
is what we do. We create these conversations, we create
these narratives, We play out these soap proper stories, and
they're real people involved, and so I'm just tired of it.
I'm just tired of the story. Like I wish they'll
make whatever resolution send them to whatever so they can
move on, and then ultimately, once he gets traded, we
will then have a conversation like, well, should they have
traded Justin Fields? Let's compare Justin Fields in his new

(21:51):
place to what Kyler Williams is doing now, Like it's
just an ongoing saga that look, man, you just grow
tired of discussing it, even though I know that's the
state of what we do. I know that's what we
do here, and immediate is just a frustrating tale because
I feel like sometimes good players get people kind of
get caught up in the mix. I feel like Justin

(22:12):
Fields is caught up in that, and that's me saying
that he is a flawed player. He does have some
issues that he must resolve. But I just think the
conversation over the past man, the past year and some change,
is just a tiled conversation, no doubt.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah, but you had said something to me a while
back which resonated, and I never forgot it. The fact
that a lot of these teams don't realize that you're
better off for the guy that's been there, done that,
that has played in the league than a guy that's
coming in raw. And you don't know what he's going
to do, and you know as well as I do.
Is so who's Kayleb Williams comes in there and this
first game he comes out there for interceptions and maybe
his completion average is not good. They could to say

(22:48):
they never should got rid of Justin Fields. That's the story.
That's what's gonna happen. You know, media people are ready
to pounce.

Speaker 8 (22:53):
You know that.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
Yeah, I mean, like I think that's that's exactly what
it is. Like everyone's ready pounds they can be on him.
He's gonna have a lot of expectations. He's coming to Chicago,
come from the West coast, even though he grew up
in DC. Coming from the West coast, like, there's gonna
be a different perception and he's gonna he's gonna be
a little different than what Chicago people have typically had

(23:18):
in their quarterback. And so it'll be interesting to see
how they welcome him, how he responds to the pressure
that comes with being the number one overall pick, and
if this is the right pick for the franchise, if
I'm Ryan Pole's Ryan Poles, you don't really have a choice.
You have to take the quarterback because if you don't
take the quarterback, it only ramps up the pressure on you.

(23:41):
And if Kayler Williams comes in, if he's not good,
like you still may get a pass because everyone would
then say like you had to take him, he was
the best quarterback in the draft, YadA, YadA, YadA. But
I don't know. I will say this though, the trade
market for Justin Fields has certainly not been as hot
as they may have perceived, and so I don't know

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where they go from there, because if Atlanta takes another quarterback.

Speaker 7 (24:06):
I don't know where Justin Fields goes like.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
And even in Atlanta, I don't think he's a great
fit for what they want to do. I just don't
know where Justin Fields winds up because the rumor meal
has not been kind of Justin Fields in terms of
what people are saying or what they're offering. The Bears
may move him, but they're certainly not getting the draft
haul that they think they were getting back in return.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
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Speaker 1 (24:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (24:44):
On Saturday, now, we saw the first team punch their
ticket into March Madness as Morehead State won the Ohio
Valley Conference Tournament, winning the final against Arkansas Little Rock
sixty nine to fifty five. So Morehead State officially the
first team to go dancing season. We do have some
more final conference tournament finals coming up on Sunday, the

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first of which will take place at noon. It's the
Big South Championship. It'll be between Longwood and unc Ashville,
the winner getting a spot in the tournament. Other finals
coming up later today, the Missouri Valley Conference Tournament final
Arch Madness as they call It'll be in Saint Louis
Drake and Indiana State, the Sycamores having an outstanding season

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trying to get back into the Big Dance, and the
Atlantic Sun Championship also taking place. I'll tip off at
two o'clock Eastern time. Austin p and Stetson going for
that conference's automatic bid into March Madness. Elsewhere on Saturday night,
the top teams trying to get themselves in positioning for

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possibly a number one seed. Number two Yukon was able
to do that despite trailing fifteen to two early. They'd
beat Providence seventy four to sixty. Number four Tennessee was
a team also trying to get that number one seed,
but they did have a setback as they lost to
number fifteen Kentucky eighty five to eighty one. Couple of
upsets in the Big Twelve, Number six Iowa State taken
down by Kansas State sixty five to fifty eight. Number

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eleven Baylor losing at Texas tack seventy eight sixty eight.
The Big Rivalry on Tobacco Road. Number seven North Carolina
number nine Duke the tar Heels win this won eighty
four to seventy nine. In the Big East, it's eight
Marquette beating Xavier eighty six eighty and number ten Creighton
winning at Villanova sixty nine to sixty seven. Number sixteen
Alabama goes to overtime against Arkansas, where the Tide win

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it ninety two eighty eight. Number seventeen South Carolina overtime
winners at Mississippi State ninety three eighty nine in the final.
Number twenty two UTAs State it's a late three pointer
to get past New Mexico eighty seven eighty five. Number
twenty four South Florida upset by Tulsa's seventy six to
seventy And in the NBA, Celtics beat the Suns one

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seventeen one oh seven. As Devin Booker did not suit
up for Phoenix, Kevin Durant did have forty five points
in the law. The Nuggets pound the Jazz one forty two,
one twenty one, and the Mavericks get another triple double
from Luka Doncic his six straight thirty point triple double
as they have no problem handling the Detroit Pistons one
forty two to one twenty four, and the Spurs upset

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the Golden State Warriors one twenty six, one thirteen, but
no victor Winmbin Yam or Steph Curry in that game.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Bet you guys, thank you. Keviseieing about it now, all right,
it's time to adapt. That's right around the corner. He's
Bucket Brooks. I'm Andy Ferman. And by the way, we'll
have asked Bucky in about eight nine minutes from now.
Let's talk a little bit about Nick Saban. Okay, see
what he's doing right now. But he did reveal the
other day some details about why he left University of
Alabama and why the nil and collective money and the

(27:40):
transmit portal played obelly big factor. We kind of knew that.
We knew that going in right now. Saban said he
was upset how his players handled themselves after Alabama lost
to Michigan in the Rose Bowl, throwing a helmet, he said,
expressing frustration, which is say uncharacteristic to Alabama football, and
then back home and player media some more problems, he said.

(28:01):
I'm courting him now. I thought we could have had
a hell of a team next year, he said. And
then maybe seventy or eighty percent of the players you
talk to, all they want to know is two things.
What assurances do I have that I'm going to play
because they're thinking about transferring, And how much money you're
gonna pay me? All right, I get it, And I
think that at seventy two years of age, he's had
enough his legacy, his days accompass what he want to do.

(28:23):
But certainly it's a disgusting situation. When the kid comes
up to you and says, how much money am I
gonna get? I mean, I don't know. It just rubs
me the wrong way they're getting money. But look, if
it's out there, I got my hand out right. That's
what you got to do.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Yeah, it's a difficult. It's a difficult thing. It's a
difficult thing for coaches right now and dealing with the
nil world and transferring. The first thing that most people
want to do is they want to know how much
they want to get paid young players. And if I
don't like the situation I'm about. It makes it really
difficult for a coach to coach a player hard when

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you're worried about whether they're gonna receive the constructive criticism
as a personal attack and look for an easier path
or resistance. Much like we talked about with Steve Smith
and Jerry Judy. Young people may not perceive it to
be coaching a criticism like, oh, coach, you don't like me,
you're hating on me.

Speaker 7 (29:16):
I'm gonna go somewhere else.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
And we're at a time there where other people are
offering those things.

Speaker 7 (29:23):
Hey man, why you're dealing with that? You can come
over here and be that.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
So guys are always looking for a better deal. I
think when you're Nick Saban and you're a guy who's
had a bunch of success dealing with relationships where you're
building people up and you're showing them the path to
have success on and off the field by investing in themselves. Yeah,
it's definitely hard when the relationship becomes transactional instead of transformational.

(29:50):
That's why he had to get out, because it wasn't
a transformative relationship that he was having with these players.
It was a transaction.

Speaker 7 (29:57):
What can you do for me?

Speaker 3 (29:58):
If you can't do this for me, go somewhere else
where someone can do other stuff for me. It's hard
when you're dealing with selfishness in that regard because it
goes against everything that you're trying to teach as a
team leader, because when you talk about the team, you're
talking about everyone operating together what is best for the
team over my individual self, And now you have all

(30:19):
these players and the people around them just thinking about
their own personal agenda. Man, it's just hard to deal
with that when you're having so much money flying around
and you're still trying to kind of operate it over
an ideal, kind of an idyllic view of how you build.

Speaker 7 (30:37):
A team and how you build a championship team in
today's game.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Yeah, but don't get me wrong. I'm not saying it's
bad and I'm not saying it's wrong. But I'm also
going to go back and say, wait a minute. How
many times did Nick Saban go back to US athletic
director and get a contract extension? Guys making eleven million
dollars a year, and all of a sudden he may
have said, hey, look I want this, I'm getting a
note forer to go there. I could go to the NFL.
So I mean this back and forth a little bit
of hypocrisy over there as well. Look, what make Nick

(31:01):
Saban perhaps one of the best college football coaches of
all time was that he was able to adapt. You know,
he recognized what was going on. He just couldn't adapt
now with this nil situation. He changed with it. He
changed with the growing change of the college football landscape,
if you will. He changed all the time. He changed
up tempo offenses, he changed about the things about different

(31:22):
kind of recruits. He changed everything he could change except
the nil. He couldn't get involved with that and he
didn't want to, so he laughed. That's what he did.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
Yeah, I mean like, I mean, look, everyone can operate
a little differently, and I'm not saying that every coach
is perfect.

Speaker 7 (31:38):
When it comes to that.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
Some of the guys that are leaving the game don't
want to build those relationships. They don't want to take
the time to build a relationships that can allow players
to look turn down things turned down, more money and
different opportunities to stay with you.

Speaker 7 (31:53):
It takes more. It takes a lot more than some
coaches are willing to give.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
I think in Saban's situation, he sees it differently because
he knows how he built Alabama into that power. He
built Alabama into the power by showing and promising guys,
if you want to get to the next level, I'm
the guy that can get you there. You come here,
you pour into yourself, you do the work, you do,
the grinds, you do all this. Here's your reward at
the end of it. You can be a better player,

(32:19):
you can be a better person because of all the
things around it. Now it's just becoming like a minor
league football. How much money can I get if I'm
not playing right away? I'm going somewhere else to seek
the best thing. Man at seventy two years old, seventy
flus years old, Man, it's hard to have the energy
to kind of deal with that from one hundred and
something kids on your roster. I think it was time

(32:41):
for him to bout because he knew that his personality
and his approach was no longer going to resonate with
these players who seemingly are becoming more selfish. And so
that's why he had to buy. And we're seeing more
more coaches about because they know their coaching style doesn't
work with this current generation of not only play but
parents and hangers on who are demanding more money in

(33:05):
different opportunities as opposed to earning the right to be
on the field and play.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
It's a new reality. The game has changed, and like, look,
there was a time when kids would love to go
to Alabama, but now with the nil payday, Alabama may
not be the number one choice. Other schools maybe offering
a little more money. And there was a recruiting advantage
that Saban had and he enjoyed for many years. Now
there's an even playing field really not with every college,

(33:29):
but with the major powers like Alabama, George, whatever it
may be. Because of the nil money, that's what it's
all about. And look, you know he dominated with recruits.
He got the top five star players every year. Now,
if you want those players, it's not just the Alabama
jersey gonna wear. You got to get a check as well.
And maybe they just can't do it and they won't
do it, and other schools have that kind of money.

(33:50):
I don't know whether schools will have more money than Alabama,
but I'm sure there's some out there that do. Georgia
probably does, right, I would have to say George has
more NIL money to spend than Alaba. Maybe that's why
they become a little more competitive.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
I mean maybe. I mean, like those schools may become
more competitive, but I think it's gonna be harder for
teams to have long lasting success without building those relationships.
I just think that now more than ever, Like the
coach has to be a bit of a magician in
terms of balancing and juggling everything, and I don't know

(34:27):
how many people are capable of doing that over the
long call.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
I would say this, in this new reality of college football,
the world of college football now would be players use
a threat. They could threat the coach of transferring or
demand higher pay, which is crazy, but that's just the
way it is, and they want more job security. But
you know what, that's what coaches have done for years.
Think about that. Guys gonna recruit you, Bucky Brooks and

(34:53):
if your freshman years bye bye. I know I was
in your living room with your mom and talked about
going to college here. But you know what, I'm leaving
on going over here. That's what's happened.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
That's it, I mean, is what's happening. It is just
a different This is a different dynamic.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
It's crazy, it really is. And I don't know if
it's good or bad. I know the kids should get paid,
but maybe they should just kind of smooth it out
a little bit because it's getting a little bit out
of control. That's all I'm saying. I always believe they
should get paid. I mean, they're entertainer's number one. They
risk injury number two, and they do so much for
the school as far as you know, increasing enrollment, excert

(35:29):
selling merchandise, whatever it may be, exposure, you name it.
That's what these guys do. Plus don't count out the
fact that they put in a lot of time every
day after school work with practice, so they should get
paid their work is. But you know, we'll see what happens.
They really got to go back to the drawing boyd
and do this nil thing all over again. They really do.
That's my team.

Speaker 7 (35:50):
We can continue to have discussions about it.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
I know I can tell I am too.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
We move on.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
He's Bucking Brooks. I'm a deferman. It it's Fox Sports
Sunny and Fox Sport's ready. It's time the man who
knows all Ask Bucky. It's next. Ask Bucky coming right up.
It's Bucky Brooks Andy Furman, and we call it Fox
Sports Sunday in Fox Sports Radio about ten minutes before
the top of the hour. That would be seven am
on the East coast. Yes, spring ahead, we moved the clock.

(36:16):
But it's time right now for ask Bucky. Let's bet
it done? All right? Well, lie for the tyrack dot
Com studio. He's Bucky Brooks. Buck, tell us about your
very first day as a pro.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
What was it like?

Speaker 3 (36:30):
Well, I mean, look, I just one is so long ago.

Speaker 7 (36:33):
I'm trying to remember.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
First day is a pro. Look, I think it's the realization.

Speaker 7 (36:38):
Of a dream long term dream.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
Right, everybody has these dreams of going to the next level,
of being around the guys, of seeing your heroes and
playing with your heroes and those things. So for me,
stepping into the Buffalo Bill's locker room seeing Jim Kelly
and Andre Reid and Bruce Smith and Thurman Thomas, all
gold Jackie guys, like being on the team with them,
having them say your name, it's a little surreal.

Speaker 7 (36:58):
And then when you have your opportun need to walk into.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
The stadium and you play, and you hear your name
called and all of the things that come along with it. Look, man,
it takes you to being the seven or eight year
old kid who first fell in love with the game.
It's it's a different experience for sure.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
A little intimidation, I think too, right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
A little intimidation, a little you know, you have those
moments when you're when you play with or against your
childhood heroes. It definitely is a little surreal. That's why
you see guys fanboy when they're playing against Aaron Rodgers
or some of the.

Speaker 7 (37:33):
Other great players.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
Look, we all have these big dreams, but sometimes you
don't even believe that those dreams are going to become
like reality, it's just a different hustle.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
That's the way I feel when I work with you.
It really is. It's true, true When did you think
about playing in the pros could become a real possibility?

Speaker 3 (37:56):
When I start playing in the pros, I would say,
like my senior year. The end of my junior year
playing at Carolina has some good games and you kind
of thought like, well maybe, and then your senior year
it changes because all the pressure that's on you, right,
So then your last year you spend so much time

(38:16):
worrying about what NFL scouts think, and you can kind
of get ahead of yourself and think about the next
level as opposed.

Speaker 7 (38:23):
To just kind of staying in the moment and doing
what you can do where you're at.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
Then the reality kind of sets in when you go
to the Senior Bowl and you're playing against the best
of the best, and you hold your own. You have
some moments and pro day workouts where maybe you think
you're good enough to be able to play at that
next level, But it's an ongoing check and balance thing
that you're checking where I am against others and the
comparative analysis.

Speaker 7 (38:47):
Between you and others.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
It's kind of a head trip. And that's why this
process for so many kids is so hard because you're.

Speaker 7 (38:54):
Doing things that you shouldn't do.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
You're comparing yourself to others, and the best players they
don't really think about the competition. They focus on how
they can be the best versions of themselves right now.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
As a kid, did you ever collect baseball cards?

Speaker 7 (39:08):
Absolutely?

Speaker 3 (39:09):
Baseball was like cold I could save my first love.
I loved everything about baseball. I love the numbers. So
I love baseball cards and the stuff that used to
get on the back because you see the stats in
those things. Today's generation is different because like the game
and the highlights and things is so accessible. But for us,
but the limit to the amount of times that you
can see your heroes baseball cards with everything. So, yeah,

(39:32):
I had a huge collection of car you still have them.

Speaker 7 (39:35):
I do not have them.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
My parents got sick of keeping those things in the
garage and it got rid of them.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
So those things I had them in shoe boxes and
my mom pitched them. Yeah, I got some left, but
not many. Okay. As a kid, did you ever have
a sports idol?

Speaker 3 (39:51):
Yeah? I mean I had had a few few players
and things that I looked up to let's see. In
high school, like my favorite play it was Michael Irvin
because he was coming straight from Miami to playing with
the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 7 (40:04):
I loved his flash and flamtpoints. I remember Jerry.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
Rice and his work ethic basketball wise, of Carolina, Michael
Jordan was always a big one.

Speaker 7 (40:12):
So yeah, you always have idols coming up.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
There we go. I tell you what, I got a
couple of more questions. I'm gonna hold them until after
the break because I think they're rather intimidating but maybe
entertaining as well, so we'll do that. He's Bucky Brooks.
I'm Andy Furman. We are Fox Sports Sunday on Fox
Sports Radio. We're gonna tell you about the worst trade
ever right here on Fox Sports Sunday. Coming up next,

(40:36):
do listen the Fox Sports all right, this is the
worst it really is. We'll get to that in just
about it. Mint to welcome everybody. This is Fox Sports Sunday.
He is Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Firman. And by the way,
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couple of leftover questions from ask Bucky if you don't mind,
if you don't mind, can you handle it? I know
you can.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
I know.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Okay, here we go. I want to know how tough
it was your first year out of the NFL. But
I know what these athletes have a rough time. We
talked about Jason Kelsey retiring the other day and a
tremendous speech he made with tears. But it's rough. I mean,
you're in there thirteen years. You're used to being with
the guys you'r dowt to with kind of a science.
You know, Monday, you do this tuesdays a day off,

(41:32):
you play Sunday one o'clock Eastern, and then all of
a sudden it's over. So how tough was it to
adapt after your NFL career was over?

Speaker 3 (41:40):
Oh, it's real tough. It's one of the toughest things
because it's been.

Speaker 7 (41:44):
A big part of you for so long.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
You know, it's your identity, it's everything that you know,
and so you spend a lot of time trying to
find something that gives you the same kind of excitement,
the same kind of thrill, and there's nothing out there
that will matter that. It's like being the gladiated in
the arena and then going and doing something else.

Speaker 7 (42:04):
There's nothing that can match that in your civilian life.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
And the closest thing to playing is coaching, and if
you're not involved in either aspect, I believe it's hard
to find that. So a part of you has to
die and you have to kind of rebuild yourself. And
it takes a long time for people to kind of
find that lane, to kind of find what that that
secondary passion is going to be, because football was there
for so long.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Right, and you got to say to yourself, you know,
I'm out of work. I mean, it's like anybody else,
Like you know, it's like a worker, a blue collar
worker out of work. It's a similar thing. Certainly the
money situation is a lot different. But like you say
to yourself, what am I going to do? What am
I trained to do? What do I really want to do?
Is it coaching? Do I want to stay in football?
Or you know what else out there? What is there
that I could fit into and be successful? That's tough.

(42:50):
I mean, you got lucky. You're really good at broadcasting
and you got to deal there and you're back in
the NFL with Jacksonville. So it's a great thing for you.
But for every bucket elks, these probably ten guys are
just wandering around when they're what they're going to do.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
There are a lot of people that are doing that,
and it takes a long time to find when it
takes time to find that passion right, because it's an evolution,
It's an evolution of who you are. What else are
you passionate about? If it's not ball? What else do
you love? Uh? And then is okay if I get
in it? Do I really like this as much? Can
I really find it? Can it my lifestyle? Does my

(43:28):
lifestyle change greatly?

Speaker 7 (43:30):
All right?

Speaker 3 (43:30):
Am I embarrassed by having to make changes to my lifestyle?
Or did I play long enough where I can sustain
the lifestyle that I want for the rest of my life?
Can I focus while I'm a player of short term
goals and I mean long term goals as opposed to
short term stuff. It's a lot and you're asking someone
in their early twenties to be able to do it.

(43:52):
And so it's a very very difficult thing. What you
hope is that you play long enough that you're able
to figure it out. But unfortunately what happens is by
the time you figure out, like what you want your
next step to be, your career is over and then
you got to jump into it with no net. And
a lot of people are unwilling or unable to kind
of jump into that second career, that second phase without

(44:13):
the support that everyone needs to be successful.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
And some of the horror stories that we hear about
these guys are bankrupt that have no more money left
because they live in such a high lifestyle and all
of a sudden it's over and there's no money there.
So you know that that's another factor. But you know,
thank goodness, you're not that you're not in that boat,
but there are a lot others that are because they're
living way above their means. Plus not only that they
got these hangers on that they kind of take care
of as well. You know, you see it all the time,

(44:38):
these guys going to these news conferences about eight, ten, twelve, fifteen,
guys hanging on. You know, they're getting money from the
guy and once I guess he's out of the NFL.
Those guys disappear.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
I'm sure, yeah they do. They do disappear. They do disappear,
like right away. Those friendships also disappear. You got to remember,
like Andy, if you and I play together, if you
and I played the every day in the pros, if
I get cut, I may not ever talk to you again.
So the relationships that you're dealing with, like, while they
may seem like they're solid.

Speaker 7 (45:10):
They're really not.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
And so it's hard because you're in this mage, you're
in this world where you're like what you think is ideal,
like all the things that the coach preaches, but it's not.
And so it's just hard to navigate all of those
things while also losing the game, the game that you love,
the game that you're passionate about.

Speaker 7 (45:32):
That stuff amazing.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
All, Okay, Last, but not least, you know, you think
you're pretty good with bon and barrel betting. And I
know last week I beat you, well, two weeks ago
I beat you, So you know, basically you're on the
ropes right now. So tonight's the Oscars. I want to
see if you can make a pick on the Oscars.
And I got a list of the movies and I'll
give you. I'll give you a break if you give
me like three movies in the top three, I'm gonna
run by you right now. And I think out of
all these movies, I think I've only seen one. I

(45:57):
saw American Fiction. But other than that, I didn't I
see Barbie, Anatomy of the Floor of a Fall, The Holdovers,
Killers of the Flower, Moon Open Oppenheimer, didn't see that,
Maestro Past Lives, the Zone of Interest, or Poor Things.
Have you seen any of those movies they're in the
football see it's tough. But American Fiction I happened to

(46:18):
see two weeks ago.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
It was great. I just see the American Fiction. That's
the only one I've seen.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
Good movie, you know what, I'd love to see it win.
I don't know if it well. I think maybe Barbie,
I don't know. I'll go with American fiction for two reasons.
Number one, I loved it, but number two, I saw it.
So I'm going with American fiction. So that that's that.
I'll finished with that.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
No picks, huh, I mean it's I mean I have
any picks Like that's all.

Speaker 7 (46:40):
I haven't seen the other ones.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
Find anything else? Anything else. I'm just randomly guessing.

Speaker 7 (46:45):
Otherwise, I'll go with American fiction.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
Okay, I did say that this is the worst, and
I'm gonna tell you what it's all about. Remember the
Herschel Walker trade that was the largest player trade in
the history of the National Football League. That did was
in October the twelfth, nineteen eighty nine. It's running back
Herschel Walker from the Dallas Cowboys where to the Minnesota Vikings,
including Walker and a transaction involving the San Diego Chargers.

(47:08):
That trade eventually involved eighteen players and draft picks. At
the time of the deal, the Cowboys were one of
the worst teams in the league. They finished the nineteen
eighty nine season with its worst post merger record one
in fifteen, training away their best player, while the Vikings
believed that Herschel Walker was the missing piece they needed
to make a Super Bowl run, so Minnesota originally felt

(47:30):
they got the better end of the deal. Instead that
Cowboys used the draft picks acquired in this trade to
get players they needed to help them win not one,
not two, but three Super Bowls in the nineteen nineties. However,
the Vikings did not make a Super Bowl appearance with
herschel Walker. Why do I bring that up because I'm
talking about what happened this past week when the Denver

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Broncos basically said Russell Wilson bye bye, bye bye Siya.
And I don't know why because all year long and
all season long, coach Sean Payton was praising him, promoting him,
protecting him. And I'm going to tell you, right buck now,
I look at the stats right now, less season sixty
six point four completion percentage two ninety seven for four,

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forty seven attempts over three thousand yards, twenty six tds
aided deceptions, and look, I know he only played five games.
They benched him. And if you have a question in
the world of sports, the great Chris collins Worth, where
I worked with for years, has always told me, you know,
if you don't know the answer, go back to money.
It's always about money. So I'm sure they cut him
because of money. But they're going to take a bath
in that too. But I don't understand why Russell Wilson

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basically is getting the boot in Denver, because I don't
know what that got now.

Speaker 3 (48:42):
I think it just didn't work out, and sometimes it
just doesn't work out with players and a new coach.
Sean Payton obviously did not like Russell Wilson. He wasn't
his type of guy, wasn't a type of player that
he wanted to build around. And it's best did they
just part ways? And that's okay, you know what I'm saying,
Like they just parted ways. They have to eat the salardy,
they have to build it up. But if you're Sean Payton,

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you're the head coach, you want to do it your
way with the people that you believe in. He didn't
believe in Russell Wilson, so they needed to make this move.
And now is fully on Sean Payton to build the
team back up in the image and the vision that
he wants, with the people and the kind of players
that he wants, without Russell Wilson, without Jerry Judy, without
Justin Simmons and some of the other players that they
parted ways with. It's all him, that's all.

Speaker 7 (49:26):
That's no additional pressure.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
But when you're the coach and you're tasked with rebuilding
the franchise, you have to do it your way. And
I give him credit for having the strength and conviction
to be able to do it. And then you just
kind to make it happen.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
Well, I do have confidence in Champat. I think he's
a great coach, I really do. And look, he wants
his players, he wants his way, and I think eventually
he will win. But Russell Wilson right now, he's looking
for a new home, and I'm certainly there's gonna be
a team out that it might be interested in his services. Look,
when the free agent market opens up, he'll be out there.
He met with the Giants, he met with the Steelers
on Friday, and now they say looks like the Raiders

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could be in the mix. The question here is, Look,
that would keep Wilson in the AFC West joining a
Broncos rival. That's kind of unusual. You wouldn't want to
get rid of a guy going in the same division.
I don't get it. I don't know why that is,
but I guess you know, if that's the team that
wants you, that's where you go.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
Yeah, I mean, if you go to somewhere that wants
to like for him, like, this is a big thing
for Russell, And I would say this, I would tell
Russell that you have an opportunity to.

Speaker 7 (50:28):
Do something that Kurt Wanner did.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
Kurt Warner failed when he went to New York and
was eventually replaced by Eli Manning.

Speaker 7 (50:34):
I'm not saying the Broncos have that.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
But then he goes to Arizona and a backup capacity
he supplants Matt Lionard and eventually leads to Arizona Cardons
to a Super Bowl, which.

Speaker 7 (50:44):
Kind of sealed his fade as a gold jacket guy.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
For Russell Wilson, he should take a similar approach picked
the organization that would give you the best opportunity, not
necessarily to have a quick six, but to be able
to get on the field and lead them to higher heights.
That's why I'm an advocate for him going to Pittsburgh,
because if he doesn't and plays well in Pittsburgh, it'll
give him a chance to kind of lose some of
the smudges that are on him right now. Mike Tomin

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is the right coach to be able to deal with
all the stuff that comes around with handle Russell Wilson.
He can kind of set it, get it right, make
Russell one of them, and kind of create this US
against the World mentality for Russ where he can go
and flourish and if he does it in Pittsburgh, where look,
they're all about titles, that'll give him a chance to
get back to being the player that he wanted to
be when he left the Yetta. He wanted to be

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celebrated like Tom Brady and does. He has to go
win and he can win in the situation and environment
like that. He has to go to a winning environment.
That's what I was saying.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
Okay, let's talk about that Pittsburgh situation right now, because
I was kind of scratching my head when I heard
about that. Kenny Picket's the quarterback and they raved about
Kenny Pickett, big draft pick over there, hasn't really done
a lot. He got better as the season went on.
So what does that do for the franchise? What does
that do for Kenny Pickett? And if you're Kenny Pickett
and you hear about this, what does that do to you?

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Eat your inside out saying, wait a minute. You bringing
Russell Wilson in Obviously they're not going to bring him
in here to sit and he's not gonna sit behind me.
He's going to be the quarterback or will there be
a competition for that starting quarterback job? Uh?

Speaker 7 (52:14):
Yeah, it needs to be competition.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
I think it's I think it's competition for that job
because I don't think Kenny Pickett is a done deal.

Speaker 7 (52:23):
Like he got replaced by Mason Rudolph.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
There who did a better job I thought he did,
he did.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
Play better he did he did do a better job
than than Kenny Pickett, and they won games and there
was a better synergy. I think for Russell, he has
to understand he may want assurances in those things. But
what Russ can't do is he can't allow the quick
fix of being the starter in a new environment uh
to bypass a greater opportunity. He has to consider all things,
which team gives me the opportunity to win and win

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at the highest level. What are the pieces around me?
Who are the coaches that are around me? Who can
help me with my game? Look at the offensive coordinator?
Which offense coordinated? Do I like all of those things
have to be considerations. Do I like Arthur Smith over
Luke guests Heer? Do I feel like Luke Guess with
the Raiders would give me an opportunity to flourish and

(53:12):
rebuild my career. What kind of offensive scheme do they run?
How they work with different players, has it been successful
or not. All those things have to be under consideration
as it relates to that.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
Yeah, you look at Russell Wilson, what happened and the
stories that he had his own office and he was
aloof and things like that. You know, I don't think
anybody cares. If he can still produce, some team's gonna
take him. But again, one of the worst things I
think on his resume may very well be the fact
that when he left Seattle, they had a better season
when he left, and that doesn't bode well for him,
I don't think. But you talk about the Raiders right

(53:46):
now with their new coach Antonio appears he was five
and four taking over the team that finished at eight
to nine. Overall, I think they're on the upswing. I
really do. And it wouldn't be a bad idea for
him to go to play for him in the Raiders
because he could come back and kind of bite down
in the rear rand, which I don't know if players
have that. Did I have that in them? Is that
like a chip on the shoulder, like I want to
go there so I can beat my former team. Well,

(54:08):
they just want to go where the money is yeah, the.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
Former team stuff, that stuff will come around. You can't
make that. That's an emotional decision. You don't want to
make emotional decisions, you know. I think. I think for
Russell and for anybody, you got to do what's best
in the long term mission. You got to be able
to step back and not worry about that stuff, because
that stuff like beating Denver in a regular season game, like, yeah,

(54:33):
that's short term, but that doesn't have anything to do
with like your long term goals. Russell has said his
long term goals are to win a super Bowl and
to be like a Hall of Fame caliber player. Well,
I want to do everything. Everything in my decision making
process should be about that.

Speaker 7 (54:48):
How can I win super Bowls?

Speaker 3 (54:49):
And how can I set myself up to get back
to being a gold jacket player. That's what I woul
think about. I wouldn't worry about the Denver stuff. You
can't change what the people in Denver think about him.
He can't change that with the win. He only can
change that by going somewhere else and having extreme success.
That's what I would focus on.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
Last, but not least, does he have enough left in
the gas tank? Can he get it? Done or is
he through? I think with the stats from last year,
I think he's got plenty left. I really do. Surrounding
with some players, I think he'll do well.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
Yeah, I think that's what it is. I mean, I
think if he has it's not even the right players
in those things. I think is having a clear understanding
of who he is and how he needs to play.
I think that's the best thing. Being self aware of
being self critical. That's the key because if he can
figure that part out, then he'll learn how to he'll

(55:40):
know how to navigate in his future situations. But if
he is thinking that he's something that he's not, then
it's always gonna be hard.

Speaker 8 (55:47):
You know.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
It's amazing with the Giants. I mean, why would the
Giants even look at him? Because I look, I understand
what he's got and he's probably better than what they have.
But they just spent some big time money on their
quarterback right now, Daniel Jones. Then they pay him out
the wazoo, and all of a sudden, you're gott to
bring in Russell Wilson. I don't know. I just don't
understand what these with these guys in the in the NFL.

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Do these personnel. Guys, it's kind of strange.

Speaker 7 (56:12):
I think.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
I don't know if it's strange, man, I just kind
of think it's the new reality.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
You know, Yeah, you're right, But I mean Daniel Jones,
I mean adequate. You know what, Without say, Quon Barkley,
they won't have much of an offense, but Barkley all
forty percent of their offense. It really was he's gone
and Daniel Jones got big money last year, and I
just I don't know if he deserved that kind of money.
I really don't. But as you say, maybe it's the position,
not the player.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
It is the position, uh, not the player. That's that's
the case. I don't think he should be, but that's
what it is.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
The position.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
The market value of the position nets out a certain thing.
But the problem is, once you pay people at a
certain level, there's an expectation that comes along with that.
I think that with Daniel Jones, it comes down to
a few different things. It comes down to like how
good can the player be, How good is the player

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on the team, how does the.

Speaker 7 (57:10):
Team see him?

Speaker 3 (57:12):
See It gets sideways when the team doesn't believe that
he's the best player, yet he's making all the money
when the team feels like Saquon Barkley is the driving
force of the offense as opposed to Daniel Jones. But
Barkley is having a tough time getting his money. Yet
Daniel Jones gets his money without being the best player.
Because what it does it creates all these feelings in

(57:32):
the locker room that you can't that you can't control, right,
like if you're the head coach, can't especially right And
and that's where it comes out because everyone is in practice.
And the one thing about like players like they have
the same game, recognize his game. Players recognize the great
players on the team. They recognized before the general manager
and the head coach ever realized. And when the pay

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skill gets out of whack for the players, that's when
they're like, man, like this guy gets his money, but
the best player doesn't get his money.

Speaker 7 (58:04):
Like what is going on the Giants and retro.

Speaker 3 (58:07):
If they were gonna pay Daniel Jones, they should have
paid Saquon Barkley yep, right away, and don't make it
an issue because.

Speaker 7 (58:13):
Now you don't have any of that.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
Okay, well, best player got rewarded Daniel Jones. Okay, he's
the quarter but We understand that. But now when you
pay him, but you're like, NA, say, kwuan, you got
to earn your money. They're like, wait a minute, Daniel
Jones didn't earn his money. He had fifteen touchdowns and
got forty million dollars. That's not commiserate with being an
elite player.

Speaker 7 (58:29):
That's where it's sideways what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
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do you hear about this story? I had never even
heard about this. School officials at Antelope Valley, which is
a private school in Lancaster, California, told their coaches at
the school that the team seasons will be canceled. Why
of course, because the closure of the camp is due
to financial difficulties and they wouldn't be allowed to participate

(59:58):
in the NAIA Basketball to tournament. And their coach, their
basketball coach, Jordan Masked. He said they knew was trouble
ahead because when he and all the other coaches on
the staff got their paychecks this week, it was twenty
five percent of their normal paychecks. I don't understand how
an institution, how a college kind of financial difficulties. Have
you ever heard anything like this? This is crazy, It

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really is.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
Look, man, I think it's more common than not. I
think some institutions have a tough time depending on the
financial backing, not only from the government, but from their
alumni base, the bonent, the donors, boosters, all that other stuff.

Speaker 7 (01:00:34):
It's not uncommon.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
It's unfortunate for all the players involved that they won't
be able to finish out their playing days, their careers,
they won't be able to culminate in a tournament appearance.
But sometimes it happens. And I think as the money
flies around at the collegiate space, it's going to be
more difficult, Like you're gonna have the haves and the
have nots, So it's going to continue to be difficult

(01:00:56):
for some teams to kind of meet the expectation that
comes along with the moneys and the financials. I just
feel bad for the players.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Well, there's a pot of gold at the end of
the rainbow. It's not as bad as they made it out,
at least for the short term. For the long term,
it is Jordan mass as I mention he's a basketball coach.
He said the other day he was happy that both
the men's and the women's basketball teams will now get
the opportunity to finish the year, and they raised forty
thousand dollars to pay for the postseason. All right, the
school is no longer operating. There was a government order

(01:01:27):
to cease operation of all degree programs. This happened on
this past Friday. Why financial mismanagement. Antelope Valley's men's team
is a sixth seed. It'll face eleven seed Huntington, Indiana
in the first round in Glendale, Arizona, on the fifteenth
of March, following Thursday's NAIA Tournament bracket reveal. Okay, now,
the women's team, which qualified for the NAIA Tournament after

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it won the California Pacific Conference regular season title, is
a thirteen seed that would face four seeds Southern Oregon
and Ashton, Oregon again March the fifteenth. Said, it's good
news there. They raised their money and he said he
had a goal. It's unbelievable. The coach, Jordan Mess had
a GoFundMe page and they hit the goal of forty
thousand dollars within seventy two hours, extending the basketball season

(01:02:13):
both the men and the women. That's pretty cheap forty
thousand for both teams to get up there. I guess
they could to get like McDonald's three times a day.
They're not a big time deal, but that's what it is,
and it's a shame. But I guess that these kids
now who are Anaia Buck can they go into portal
for other schools now for next year.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
I'm not as familiar withinn AIA rules either, money, I'm
sure that they'll be able to bounce and kind of
kind of move around to find situations that are better
for them. It's unfortunate. It's unfortunate for everybody involved. I
mean the coaches too, like they didn't They certainly didn't
sign up for that.

Speaker 11 (01:02:47):
Man.

Speaker 7 (01:02:47):
Just such a tough deal for everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
It's bad, it really is. But I don't know. I
just don't know. But we got some bigger fish to fry.
I tell you wait till you hear this story where
they're doing a one ivy league school that's coming up
next live for the ti rack dot com studios. But first,
our gut, Kevin, why what all your sports?

Speaker 10 (01:03:08):
We're just a week away from selection Sunday and we
had one team punch their ticket into the Big Dance
with us at Selwoll ranked teams in Action and what
for them is the last weekend of their regular season.
Morehead State punching their ticket to March Madness. They win
the Ohio Valley Conference tournament beating Arkansas Little Rocks sixty

(01:03:29):
nine to fifty five. They win the Ohio Valley Conference.
And we have three other conference tournament finals taking place
on Sunday at noon Eastern the Big South Championship between
Longwood and UNC Ashfel. So they're going for that bid
into the tournament that We got two more coming up
at two o'clock Eastern time, the Missouri Valley Conference Final
Arch Madness in Saint Louis Drake and Indiana State, and

(01:03:52):
also at two Austin p and Stetson, and we'll face
this off for the Atlantic Sun Championship final with a
chance to play in mark Arch Madness. As for the
action on Saturday night, Yukon asserting themselves as one of
the number one seeds in the tournament. They beat Providence
seventy four to sixty. However, number four tennesseeed, they had
a setback the volunteers trying to get themselves a one seed,

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but number fifteen Kentucky beats them in their own building
eighty five to eighty one. Couple of upsets in the
Big twelve Iowa State the six Ring Cyclones taking down
by Kansas State sixty five fifty eight. Texas Tech upsets
Number eleven Baylors seventy eight to sixty eight Tobacco Road,
Number seven North Carolina, Number nine Duke and the Tar
Heels win this one eighty four to seventy nine. Number

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eight Marquette win against Xavier eighty six eighty and number
ten Creighton beats Villanova sixty nine sixty seven, Number sixteen
Alabama and overtime winner against Arkansas ninety two to eighty eight.
Number seventeen South Carolina an overtime winner at Mississippi State
ninety three to eighty nine. Into the Mountain West, Number
twenty two Utah State gets a late three point shot

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to get by New Mexico eighty seven eighty five, Number
twenty four South Florida upset by Tulsa's seventy six to
seventy and in the NBA, the Celtics beat the Suns
one seventeen one oh seven. However, Phoenix did not have
Devin Booker, he missed the game with a sprained ankle,
and the Nuggets demolished the Utah Jazz one forty two,
one twenty one behind thirty seven points from Jamal Murray.

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And in the Dallas Detroit game, Luka Doncic another triple double,
his six straight thirty point triple double as the Mavericks
take down the Pistons in easy fashion one forty two
to one twenty four, and then Spurs win at Golden
State one twenty six, one thirteen. But there was no
Victor Winbin Yama or Steph Curry in that game. Bet
you guys, Thanks, Kevise heaning about it now? Fair play.

(01:05:39):
That's what we want to talk about. We'll get that
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We got bottom barrel betting in about eight nine minutes
from now. Talk about fair play. Did you hear about
this one Pepperdine. Pepperdine scored the first twenty six points.

(01:06:11):
They cruised to a one oh two forty three route
of Pacific. This was on Thursday night in the opening
game with the West Coast Conference Tournament. Fifty nine point win,
the fifth largest and conference tournament game and Division I history.
And look, I get it, but sometimes you just can't
hold back. You know, you're just rolling. But I find
these scores are disgusting. I remember when Connecticut women they

(01:06:33):
would win by sixty seventy points. Isn't there a point
in time when the coach got to say that's it,
I'm putting up the white flag, it's all over. Why
do you just have to keep on rolling And I'm
pulling the points and just embarrassing teams. I don't get that.
I like fair play. Maybe I'm old school. I don't know.
I don't like this one oh two to forty three.

Speaker 3 (01:06:53):
That's ridiculous, it is, But I mean, like, like sometimes
I mean to be fair, you have backup players, Like,
what are you supposed to tell the backups.

Speaker 7 (01:07:02):
They practice hard, they work hard.

Speaker 3 (01:07:04):
They have talent, they want to show their skills when
they have an opportunity to get into the game. Like
you can't tell those guys just to dribble out the
shot clock. You know, at some point when you're coaching
your team, you're responsible for coaching your team.

Speaker 7 (01:07:16):
You can't coach your team and the other team.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
And you try and get your team every day to
play hard, to give great energy, to work on the
execution in those things. And just because the game gets
out of hand doesn't mean that you still don't want
those same things from your team.

Speaker 7 (01:07:31):
You can have a conversation with.

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
The guy at half court at the end of it
and shake hands and telling hey man, sorry that the
score got out of whack. But you order it to
your players to pour into them the backups, just like
you pour into the starters. So sometimes those things just happen.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
You know, you're a genius. You're a freaking genius. And
I love that what you just said, because I'll never forget.
I think the year was eighty or eighty one. I'll
look it up later. But Penn State played University of
Cincinnati in football and Joe Paturna was the co which
may he rest in peace. Kme to Cincinnati and the
squad I think was something like sixty six to nothing.
And I asked Joe, I did I asked Joe after

(01:08:08):
the game, he said, isn't there a point in time
you just kind of say enough? I mean, it's all over? Really,
he says, you know, I put my third string guys in,
And he said, exactly what you said, Bucky Brooks. He said,
sometimes these guys want to show me and everybody else
that they deserve to play. They want to play, and
as he said, they practice hard all week. He says,
once that steamroller starts and the snowball starts rolling down

(01:08:28):
the hill, sometimes you can't stop it. Sometimes you can't
say so. It's not intentional to run up the score,
but these kids want to have their time to shine
as well. You hit it right on the head, that
was it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
Yeah, they do want to have their time to shine,
and as a coach, your job is to follow through
on that. You tell them to play hard, you tell
them to play with class. Though, so you don't you
don't show up the other team like you don't talk
slick to him, You don't taunt them or whatever. But
you play as hard as you can for as long
as you can, Like that's the expectation, and whatever happens
after that. Like, you can't be mad at me if

(01:08:59):
my team plays hard as long as they don't show
up the other team like and do some greechous stuff.
Right man, you're the coach. I don't know what. You
can't say anything to another team when they got it,
they have it rolling. That's just kind of part of
to do.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
You're exactly right now. Now here's another story, which kind
of I chuckled. At Detroit Mercy. They mutually agreed to
part ways with the men's basketball coach Mike Davis after
six years. They announced this just the other day. The
Titans of Detroit Mercy. They went one in thirty one
this year, one in thirty one. Okay, Bucky Brooks, I'm
telling you the next game I coach will be my first.

(01:09:33):
I could go one in thirty one as coach of
Detroit Mercy. Believe me, I'm telling how do you go
one and thirty one? I don't understand it. This is
the same guy. I'm not knocking Mike Davis particularly, but
I guess partially I am. But this guy I am,
but it's the same guy. I'll give him credit. He
led Indiana to the national championship, came back on O two,

(01:09:54):
all right, but he finishes the Detroit CAREB with the
recular of sixty and one nineteen an overall forty four
and sixty five in the conference. I get it, but
maybe it's difficult to get kids to go there. But
I remember when Dick Vitale coached University of Detroit before
it became Detroit Mercy.

Speaker 8 (01:10:11):
He won.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
He got players there. I mean, who wouldn't want to
go and playing a big time arena which to have
on campus, and you know, it's a good city to
go to. It's not like out in the Sticks. You
got Detroit. But I don't get it. I remember last
years he coached his sun Days Antoine, and Antoine finished
his career second on the NCAA all time men's scoring list,
just three points beyond Pete Maravich. So I don't understand

(01:10:35):
how you go one in thirty one. The kids didn't
want to play for him, They throw it in. How
does that happen?

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
I mean, like a lot of think it could be
without like looking at this team directly. It could be anything.
It could be the team just not good enough. The
team gets discouraged and they just don't believe in the plan,
they don't believe that they can get it done, and
they end up playing poorly because they lack the self confidence,
you know.

Speaker 7 (01:11:00):
So look, it's a few different things. Not good enough.

Speaker 3 (01:11:02):
Maybe he's not a good enough coach tactically or from
a from a motivational standpoint to get the team to
play at a higher level.

Speaker 7 (01:11:10):
But one in thirty one it just didn't work.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
So, I mean, really, one in thirty one. Look, Bucket,
you've coached football. I guarantee you if you were on
the bench at Detroit Mercy, there would at least be
two and thirty, two and thirty.

Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
Really, I don't know, mamb without seeing without seeing the schedule,
without knowing who they have on the team.

Speaker 7 (01:11:29):
It's tough. But man, one thirty one, that's a lot
of losses, A lot of losses. Boy.

Speaker 12 (01:11:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
And before he came to Detroit, he was the head
coach at Texas Southern. That he was at UAB, he
was in Indiana, So there's something going on there where
he doesn't stay at one school. He replaced Bob Nightmare
if the three is an assistant to Bobby and in Bloomington,
he made nine NC DOUBLEA tournament appearances. So maybe his strength,
I wouldn't. I mean, it's hard to say this. Maybe
his strength is recruiting. But obviously he didn't get many

(01:11:55):
recruits at Detroit Mercy. But I promise you he will
land at some school. He will land next year at
some school.

Speaker 7 (01:12:02):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
Man, you've had six fights at that. But that's a
lot of That's a lot of coaching, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 7 (01:12:07):
There's a lot of.

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
Opportunities, a lot of opportunities you've had. You've had big
jobs Indiana. You ab have been bigger jobs. You're going
to smaller jobs Texas, Southern, I mean, I mean, you've
got a lot of jobs.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
Yeah, he's going in the wrong direction. Normally, when you're
a coach that starts small as an assistant at a
small school and you work your way up to the
ladder to in Indiana. He was in Indiana and he's
going down because Detroit and look, the Horizon Leaguers is
a competitive league in North Kentucky. University Milwaukee's in there,
right State University not bad programs, but look it's not
on the level. It's Big twelve, Big East, whatever it

(01:12:40):
may be. But still in all you're going in the
wrong direction, Mike. I mean, you should be going up
that lot, and it seems to me you're going down.
There's not many places left, I wouldn't think. But again,
as you know, it's more about contacts and networking than
how good you are, right I think.

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
I look bit yeah, like maybe there's a team that's
desperate at once again they one to thirty one mark
though that's hard to oh man, that's hard to seal.

Speaker 7 (01:13:04):
But it's hard to seal to you people.

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
Ooh really and obviously the athletic director, Robert C. Vowels
Junior said, the obligatory you know, this thing is like
printed on a stamp. We wish the best fan and
his family as his coaching journey continues. That's that's the
standard remark, you know, when when a coach gets gone,
coach gets fired, the standard remark. But you don't even say,

(01:13:28):
just printed on a rubber stamp and stamp it out there,
that's what we wish them the best. There you go, unbelievable.
It is tough, It really is tough. I don't know,
it's just tough. It really is. We'll see see what
Mike Davis LANs. In other words, that's what we do.
We move on right now. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Furman.

(01:13:49):
This is Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. And
and let me say this. Look I hate to say it,
but it's true. The Bucky dominance is over. We think
we think bottom barrel betting. It's freaking next bottom barrel betting.
Come and right up. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Firman.

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This is Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Boots ready with
live from the Tirack dot Cum Studios. We got a
gate to play, let's play it. It's bottom you thought
you was late.

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
Put my funny to sleep, people, get my money.

Speaker 13 (01:14:22):
I'll put your brain to sleep.

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
Betting listen is and here he is the one and
only the IMN know.

Speaker 5 (01:14:29):
Hey, good, how you doing good? All right?

Speaker 14 (01:14:31):
Well, so last week's score I was communicating with Shay
who filled in, and Bucky won three to two last week.
So the overall score update is eighteen to thirteen.

Speaker 7 (01:14:43):
Wow, dominant dominant?

Speaker 14 (01:14:45):
Now, hey, hey, but eighteen to thirteen? Andy, if you
sweep this week, it's tied. So you got a chance here.
So first pick here, yes, the world.

Speaker 7 (01:14:54):
All I gotta do is I can just pick all
the andyes picks.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
Thanks you.

Speaker 5 (01:14:58):
Actually that's a.

Speaker 15 (01:15:01):
You know what that is?

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
That's twenty, that's.

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
Yea and maintain my lead. I don't have twenty thing.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
Hey, I man, you can just take a knee at
this point.

Speaker 5 (01:15:17):
And so first pick is the world high a lie League,
which I had never heard of.

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
It's some sport.

Speaker 14 (01:15:25):
Yeah, you use this long curve highlight highlight lie. It's
highlight highlight played and f the time. Oh gotcha highlight
excuse me. So we've got Correa dealing with you. Correa
and Nicholas at plus one twenty versus Bueno and Manu
at minus one fifty. Andy your first.

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
No, no, I'm not, because he's a champion, goes first,
even though we taunted me.

Speaker 5 (01:15:47):
All right, Bucky, we'll start with you.

Speaker 3 (01:15:49):
I won't take the favorite Korea and who's who's Nicholas.

Speaker 5 (01:15:54):
They're actually not the favorites. They're plus one twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:15:57):
Oh we'll give me the other one.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
Oh no, he made a choice. Once you make you
could have gone first.

Speaker 5 (01:16:03):
You could have gone first.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
Andy, all right, so you're not gonna change it, right,
You're gonna give it to him.

Speaker 5 (01:16:08):
Yeah, he's born on Manu.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
Oh no, Mino, I'm not going that way. All right,
you're going to he picked because he's pretty good, and
he picked the other guy first, so maybe he knows.
I'm going with that. That's what I'm going with, all right.

Speaker 14 (01:16:22):
Next up, we have an international cricket matchup. It's Afghanistan
at minus two to twenty versus Ireland at plus one seventy.

Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
Oh, I got first. I got, Yeah, you're first. Saint
Patrick stays right around the corner. They're gonna be lit
up pretty good. I'm going with them. The booze will
be flowing. I got the big Green, I got Ireland, and.

Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
Yeah they will. They will be fired up. And because
they're so fired up, they're overly emotional.

Speaker 7 (01:16:46):
So you meet afghan all right, then.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
You know you have willianswers and they sound right. That's
what scares me.

Speaker 3 (01:16:52):
All right.

Speaker 14 (01:16:53):
Next we have Ozzie Rules Australian rules football in the AFL.
We have the Hawthorne Hawks at plus one twenty versus
the Essendon Bombers at minus one fifty.

Speaker 5 (01:17:03):
Five, Bucky, or first, let's go to Bombers and Andy?
Should I take that to mean you'll take the Hawks.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
You know why I want the Hawks because you gotta
help me out. You gotta go on the you gotta
go on the internet, get on the website. I know what,
I'll pay it back. I want a Hawthorne Hawks hoodie.
That's what I want.

Speaker 5 (01:17:21):
I'm gonna get one for myself too. Two Hawthorne Hawks hoodies.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
You know you get to pay. I'll pay for both awes,
both on hilts hoodie.

Speaker 3 (01:17:28):
All right.

Speaker 14 (01:17:29):
Next, we're going to the National Lacrosse League. We have
the Panther City Lacrosse Club. I had to look it up.
That's in Fort Worth, Texas. They're minus one ten versus
the Philadelphia Wings at minus one twenty. Andy your first.

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
You know what, I'm gonna go with the Philadelphia Wings
because I think there's more people to choose one. There's
a bigger base of talent in Philadelphia than Panther City.
Panther City Brothers even have a zip code, that's how
small they are. I'm going with Philadelphia.

Speaker 3 (01:17:58):
I guess I'd be a small town boy. Let's go
the other way.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
All right, go to Philadelphia and auto Jason Kelsey.

Speaker 14 (01:18:04):
That's why our last pick is women's table tennis. There's
an event going on right now called the Singapore Smash,
and Bruna Takahashi at minus one twenty five is taking
on Elizabetha Samara at minus one ten.

Speaker 7 (01:18:19):
Bucky, Oh, give me your favorite.

Speaker 14 (01:18:22):
We will give you Takahashi, the favorite Takahashi. So that
means that the other one would be Samara Samara and Elizabetha, right, Elizabetha?

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
Yeah, you know, And I don't usually pick the same
person that Bucky does because I know basically he doesn't
believe it. He is, in his heart of hearts, it's
not true. He doesn't believe that. Is this match on
TV right now, this women's table to Singapore Slayers.

Speaker 5 (01:18:47):
That's a good question. I found it on DraftKings, so
it's it's got to be available somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
I'll find it. But I'm not gonna cheat on not
that way. It's not my makeup. But I'm going with Elizabetha.

Speaker 5 (01:18:58):
Okay, I just like that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
Really, are we done now?

Speaker 5 (01:19:00):
I mean we are done? Five were done?

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
If I sweep, I'm tied with Bucky brother yep.

Speaker 14 (01:19:05):
So you you both want with different picks for each one.
So there is a chance here Andy for you to
tie it up.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
You know, But I don't think it's a good thing
for me to do the same picks as Bucky. I
mean it makes it a little more interesting, although I
am picking with my heart.

Speaker 5 (01:19:18):
Well yeah, if you pick, you can't take the lead.

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
Right, So I do pick up my heart.

Speaker 3 (01:19:24):
There you go, right?

Speaker 7 (01:19:25):
All right?

Speaker 5 (01:19:26):
All right, we'll be back next week to update.

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
Well, you know, I want to ask you some questions.
But let me ask you this. If I if I
get swept this week, like I'm on for five, can
we change the rules I gotta have like someone calling
and help me, like a lifeline. Can we do that?

Speaker 5 (01:19:39):
I mean we might need to.

Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
Just I'd rather call it a life like because I
don't have many friends.

Speaker 5 (01:19:47):
Miss Worth calling Chris Collins.

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
Kill me if I call them. But there's got to
be someone out there that I could speak to. But again,
you can call a pack man.

Speaker 3 (01:19:58):
Call pack man, you think so, Adam, Yeah, Adam Pacman
Jones can help you.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
He's Pullam at some casino casino right now.

Speaker 3 (01:20:06):
You know what.

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
He's a good name, he gets a bad rap. He's
not a bad guy.

Speaker 3 (01:20:10):
We'll give you. We'll give you Pa Berfect. Call you
call either one of those guys.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
I'd be afraid of. Call Fantees perfect. Hey, it's time
for a second chance, and Bucky Brooks tell you why
on Fox Sports Sunday right here, coming up next.

Speaker 1 (01:20:25):
Don't listen no Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (01:20:28):
All right, Indy made a big difference. We'll explain that
in just about a minute. Good morning, everybody. This is
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Tyre Byron should be. And we've crossed the fifty yard
line of what we call Fox Sports Sunday. Bucky Brooks,
it's funny you mentioned Vontes Berfet a little while back.
By the way, what is he doing? There was one
guy that I was fearful of Little Love.

Speaker 7 (01:21:05):
I don't know, a couple of marbles.

Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
So shaking in the between the ears over there, I
don't tough player to player, gave it all.

Speaker 3 (01:21:14):
A good player, good player, good player for the mingles,
controlled player. Yes he was, Yes he was.

Speaker 2 (01:21:21):
All Right, we move on because this is a time
where I kind of kind of use you. I hate
to say that term, you know, use you for your knowledge.
That's what I meant by that.

Speaker 5 (01:21:30):
Use you work.

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
You write for NFL dot com. You were a player,
you're a coach, you're a scout. And every week on
Friday you put up dot column NFL dot com, and
I think everybody who loves the game of football sugar
NFL dot com and look for writers. Scroll down. You
see that handsome guy by the name of Bucky Brooks.
And this week you wrote about the NFL scouting Combine.
You say it's an important part of the pre draft process.

(01:21:53):
Each year, the event brings surprises, forcing teams to go
back into the lab and compare what we saw from
the prospects and the workouts at Lucaswell Stadium with all
the pre existing game tape. And you also say, after
all the years of tape should ultimately play a much
bigger role in the evaluation process than the smallest sample
of athletic testing and position Jews were able to witness

(01:22:13):
at the Combine. But you did say there are some
people who are at the Combine who made somewhat of
a name for themselves, right, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:22:22):
Yes, so they're handful of guy. Yeah, they're handful of
guys that worked out pretty well where they worked out
so well that it forced you to go back to
the tape and.

Speaker 7 (01:22:29):
See, hey, did I miss something? Did we miss on
a player?

Speaker 3 (01:22:33):
And so these are the ten guys that I think
evaluators have to go back in the lab and just
make sure they do a little research on make sure
they got them right.

Speaker 2 (01:22:42):
If you don't mind, I'm going to go look at
your list and like, well, to one by one. I
like to go on the offense first. And here's a
guy that I'm really rooting for, Spencer Ratler, the quarterback
of South Carolina who not only was bench I thought
he was embarrassed when he played for Oklahoma, then he
was benched after that Texas game for Cayleb Williams. I
was right through the middle of the game against Texas,
I mean not even before the guy I think Midwest

(01:23:04):
it was halftime they benched him. I mean he came back,
had a pretty decent year at South Carolina, but I
don't think he's ever really lived up to his potential
at Oklahoma. Now you wrote about him right now, he
said he crushed the process. Tell me a little bit
about Spencer Radle because I'm ruining for this kid.

Speaker 3 (01:23:22):
Yeah, so Spencer Radleigh, like since the end of the season,
Spencer was Senior Bowl MVP. Did a really good job
now during the week throwing the ball over the yard
and then at the combine. It wasn't necessarily that he
was on point and completed every throw, but you can
just see that he has enough talent to play in
the league when you think about his background. Number one

(01:23:42):
overall consensus quarterback pick in the class that he came
out of in high school, had success immediately at Oklahoma.

Speaker 7 (01:23:50):
You can see it. We had people talking about him
being the next Lincoln Raley.

Speaker 3 (01:23:56):
Proget to make it to the league. Caleb Williams happens
takes over, but he goes af Carolinta, And what I
like about it is he had overcome some adversity he
had to deal with, kind of losing his starting job
first going down there, having to rebuild his career. I
just think youre getting an experienced player as a developmental
prospect again in the third round, third fourth round.

Speaker 7 (01:24:15):
That can come in.

Speaker 3 (01:24:15):
They can play because he's had significant time at the
collegiate level.

Speaker 2 (01:24:20):
You know, you could go one of two ways. When
you lose your starting job, you lose all your confidence.
Say maybe I'm not as good as I thought I
was or as people thought I was. Or you could
come back and regroup and say, look, I'll show them
that I still got it. I mean it's a tough call.
I mean, I think that's way in life. You know,
if you have a job and you get canned and
you say, wait a minute, maybe I'm not as good

(01:24:40):
as people thought I was or I thought I was anyway,
So I gave him a lot of credit Spencer for
coming back and coming back strong. Maybe not as strong,
but I think that his arm strength may be his key,
and I think he'll stick on a roster in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (01:24:55):
Yeah, Like, I think he has developmental potential and we've
seen it, and this is why it's a big deal.
We have seen each of the last couple years, what
sixty the sixty five quarterbacks are kind of cycling in
there Spencer rather is good enough to be in that rotation.

Speaker 2 (01:25:12):
All right, let's go to the running back position. He
got a junior here out of Tennessee, Jalen Wright. He
had a thousand yard season for Tennessee this past year.
And you say it's one of the top performers in
the combine in athletic testing. What is that compose of?
What is the athletic testing? What are some of the
parts of that tap?

Speaker 7 (01:25:30):
So look the forty yeard dads, he had a four
to three eight.

Speaker 3 (01:25:34):
His jumps are over forty inches, like vertical jump was
forty one and a half ten foot nine broad jump,
which I'll just tell you that that broad jump is significant.

Speaker 7 (01:25:42):
Anything close to eleven is big time.

Speaker 3 (01:25:44):
So the fact that he ran as fast as he ran,
he has the production led the nation with a seven point.

Speaker 7 (01:25:51):
Four yards per carry average.

Speaker 3 (01:25:53):
You're talking about a high end athlete who has put
down some impressive numbers At the starting running back.

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
Question is this bucket Brooks. You're making a draft pick.
You have to get a running back. Do you take
Jalen Right or you take the kid Braylen Allen, the
running back from Wisconsin.

Speaker 7 (01:26:10):
I take Jalen Right. He's fast. Really, give me more
chance for big plays.

Speaker 2 (01:26:14):
Yeah, all right, I'm with you. I'm running this down
to see what exactly happens in the draft. I'm looking
forward to the draft right now. Okay, let's go to
wide receiver a senior at a University of Florida, Ricky Piarsoll,
Ricky Pearsol, coming from the swamp. What's the good news
about him?

Speaker 3 (01:26:31):
Good notes about him? He's outstanding rail runner. I mean
he is polished as they come entering the league. He
can dominate the game from the slot. Well, what we
saw at the Commine is he's a better athlete than
most people gave him credit for four low four forwards
in the forty had a really impressive forty two inch

(01:26:52):
vertical jump and then just caught the ball really well.
I mean, he's just a really good player who can
do a bunch of different things. He can be a
problem at the next level for everyone who was about
Lab McConkie, Ricky Parasol can give you just about as
much bang for the buck.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
My question is this, what is the biggest trade or
the most important trait an athlete must have as a
run as a wide receiver. I would have to say height.
Speed's important known by that, but I think heights the most.
So I've seen these running these are these receivers in
the NFL. They list them as five nine, five ten.
I don't get it. You got to be at least
six foot to be a receiver, don't you think?

Speaker 15 (01:27:28):
Nah?

Speaker 3 (01:27:29):
I think the most important thing, I would say just
the ball says you got to catch the ball, no
matter how fast you are, slowly you are. If you
can't catch the ball, that's a problem. So I would
say the most important skill that everybody has to have.
I would say it's the level of explosion, so first
step quickness, depending on the position. And then I would

(01:27:51):
say just the overall movement skills, because like when you're
a scout, you evaluate everyone based on prototypes, like that's
what typically plays in the league height, weight, speed, armlength,
hand size and those things. But the explosive athleticism that
leads to big plays, and so every team is looking
for a bigger, faster version of it to be a
bigger faster version of themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
Okay, I got a couple of other wide receivers. You
tell me and go to your school. Davontes Walker, what
about him, What does he rank?

Speaker 3 (01:28:20):
Good player, good player, good route runner, helped himself with
his workout, fast as all get out. Everyone knew his fast,
didn't play enough to validate it, but just a good
football player, so I understood he might be one and them.

Speaker 2 (01:28:34):
Oh really, okay. Johnny Wilson, wide receiver out of Florida.

Speaker 7 (01:28:37):
State, big body, he's six seven.

Speaker 15 (01:28:41):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (01:28:41):
Six seven, yeah, six seven, But we don't see that
playoff and in the league. And when you look at
his body type, he's not built to play tied end,
so he's gonna have to live outside and playing outside
of the pros at six like, he's just so much
surface area that you're giving to those little dbs. It'd
be a long day for somebody.

Speaker 2 (01:29:02):
And let's been at least a wide receiver here out
of Texas, Xavier Worthy.

Speaker 3 (01:29:08):
I mean you saw just to speed right this week. Factor,
he's light one hundred and sixty three pounds. I don't
know what you're gonna do with that over a seventeen
game season.

Speaker 7 (01:29:16):
But the stream in the weight room. You put him
in the weight room, yeah, you put him. You put
him on the perimeter.

Speaker 3 (01:29:21):
You're talking about the ability to score points, and if
you put him beside another established receiver, he can cleared
his own, creating opportunities for someone coming behind.

Speaker 2 (01:29:30):
We saw in the National Football League to kind of
hate the city the word phasing out, but they don't
think it's as important they're running back position. I think
they're moving more towards the tight end position. Maybe I'm wrong,
but I think that's a position that you put your
star next to right now, and Penn State as a
pretty good one in their senior Theo Johnson, how did
he do in the combine that he helped himself?

Speaker 7 (01:29:50):
Yeah, helped himself because he's super fast.

Speaker 3 (01:29:52):
He has a natural body buill that would man just
make you fall in love with him with your scout
talking about sixty six fifty nine pounds, thirty three, your
arm ten and a quarter hand size and he run
a four to five seven into forty and then jump
almost forty inches.

Speaker 7 (01:30:07):
I mean, just just crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:30:09):
He had production last year, he had thirty four for
one for three, forty one and seven scores, but instead
it doesn't match his athletic potential. What you're banking on
is you get him in the right situation where you
have a coach that understands how to kind of put
the pot the tied end in situation where you can
touch the ball.

Speaker 7 (01:30:26):
Man. This dude could be a start in that level.

Speaker 2 (01:30:28):
Let me run this by you. Say, guy jumps forty inches.
I mean that's something you you inherit, that's from birth.
I mean you're born with You can't practice that. I
mean you can't, can you?

Speaker 3 (01:30:38):
I mean how you can box jumps?

Speaker 7 (01:30:41):
Yeah, box jumps, squad jumps, tuck jumps, so you can.

Speaker 2 (01:30:44):
In other words, this this guy maybe several years ago
was jumping thirty inches and he increased by ten inches. Jee,
I never heard that. I thought this is a god
given ability that you could jump forty inches.

Speaker 7 (01:30:54):
I mean you can.

Speaker 3 (01:30:55):
You can increase it by like three four inches just
by jumping every days.

Speaker 7 (01:30:59):
The one activity that you can do that doesn't hurt.
So you can jump every day.

Speaker 2 (01:31:02):
Really, but if you don't have the hops, you don't
have the hops. Now can you dunk a basketball?

Speaker 3 (01:31:06):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (01:31:07):
Yeah, I can crush out.

Speaker 3 (01:31:07):
In fact, Andy, I want to dunk contests at North
Carolina back in ninety one ninety two, really, when.

Speaker 7 (01:31:17):
North Carolina was playing Duke Carolina was one.

Speaker 3 (01:31:22):
Duke was one Carolina was two and at halftime they
had a campus whide dunk contests that yours truly won.

Speaker 7 (01:31:28):
So yeah, I got hops.

Speaker 2 (01:31:30):
Could you dunk one? Now? Could you still dunk of basketball?

Speaker 8 (01:31:33):
No?

Speaker 7 (01:31:33):
No, No, that's said it to feel I would hurt
all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:31:37):
That See, I'm impressed. See that impresses me more than
you're playing in the NFL allthough, I'm impressed with that too.
But dunking a basketball that's a skill that people take
for granted because if you watch games on TV, it's
like like commonplace. Really, but I think to dunk of
basketball that is something that would be something I would
have loved to be able to do. I don't think

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I could jump, and really maybe I can hide. I
don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:32:04):
I just know there's a place for you in the game,
dying out.

Speaker 2 (01:32:07):
Behind the bench, on the bench, you know, keeping score.
That's what basically I've done. What about this kid, Mason McCormick,
South Dakota State, I would have my I have have
a big question mark just looking at the school he attended.
Am I wrong on that? South Dakota State?

Speaker 3 (01:32:23):
Mason McCormick, No, there's nothing wrong with with pausing on
a small school stand up because he played at a
lower level. But he's dominated men. He's dominated everywhere he's been.
He's a really good player, he's versatile. Did a really
good job at the East West Rine Game. So that
gives him a chance just because he played well.

Speaker 7 (01:32:39):
Yeah, center guard prospect.

Speaker 3 (01:32:43):
Because he played well at the All Star Game, because
he dominated at his level, you feel really good about
about him. He just has to kind of make sure,
I mean, just just do your things, take care of
your business in the fair way. He'll be fine.

Speaker 2 (01:32:58):
Okay. So, like three hundred and twenty one players perspective
players prospects that attended the Combine in Indianapolis, they get
an invite. I mean, this kid from South Dakota State,
he was invited or he has an agent. The agent
got him in there. I mean, look, if truth be known,
everybody would love to go to the Combine to get
a shot. So how does he get in there from

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South Dakota State.

Speaker 14 (01:33:23):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:33:23):
Well, he got in because he's really good player and
the scouts voted him in. So what happens The scouts
rank certain players like ahead of the summer and those things,
and then they want to make sure that those players
have an opportunity to be seen and evaluated, get all
the medical get all the stuff done. So those guys
are voted in, and he was voted in to have

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an opportunity.

Speaker 2 (01:33:46):
So I guess it's kid Muhammad Kamara from Colorado State,
an edge rusher defensive Player of the Year in the
Mountain West Conference. He was voted in as well.

Speaker 7 (01:33:55):
Yeah, he was voting in. I mean, another good player.

Speaker 3 (01:33:58):
Thirteen and a half sacks, first hip, quickn is off
the charts, does a really good job of like finishing
with his hands.

Speaker 7 (01:34:04):
Just relentless, motor, high energy competitor. You just love what
he's able to do.

Speaker 3 (01:34:10):
I mean he's Look, he's a good player, and he's
super dynamic and explosive.

Speaker 2 (01:34:15):
Okay, this this, this player, I have a question. Mark
can tell me why he's so good. He's only five eleven,
one eighty seven. His name is Max Milton. Played for
Rutgers cornerback, cornerback at five or eleven. I got a
problem because if they list him at five or eleven,
he's probably five to nine.

Speaker 3 (01:34:30):
No, it doesn't the officials official those are the official heights. Yeah, No,
Max Max five eleven in fact, and it really was
five eleven would be considered a big corner, like ringing
back to one of my scouting days. Yeah, anybody over
five eleven is considered big. Ideally you want a six
foot corner, but man, five eleven, that's a that's a

(01:34:51):
big corner instead of those like five eight, five nine guys.
You want someone that's big. The length creates opportunities.

Speaker 2 (01:34:59):
Yeah, and tell me about one. Last one is a
safety because I know the Bengals are looking for safeties
Daydrion Taylor Demerson from Texas Tech. He's a senior safety
and he's five ten.

Speaker 3 (01:35:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:35:13):
Explosive fall hawk fall over the place.

Speaker 3 (01:35:16):
Yeah, Soper fast, all over the place at the East
West Rine game comes talkative, but the talk is all positive.
He gets around it. He's active. He's an energizer bunny.
He's going juice up whichever meeting room he's on because
he has a lot of energy, a lot of juice.

Speaker 2 (01:35:34):
This is great stuff. I love reading this stuff. That
you're right. But let me ask you this. Am I
off base by saying that, Yes, you said, as a
receiver the most important thing is not height, not speed,
but be able to catch the ball. As a cornerback,
or a safety. Not that important to be able to
be at catching the ball, you know, just right. I
mean i've heard that. You know, sometimes they say this
guy's playing corner because he couldn't catch the ball. Is

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that true?

Speaker 7 (01:35:58):
That is true?

Speaker 2 (01:35:59):
Really?

Speaker 7 (01:36:00):
Okay, yeah, it's true.

Speaker 2 (01:36:02):
All right. So now I know I learned so much
from you, I really do. I don't know why you
don't write a book. Have you thought about writing a book?

Speaker 7 (01:36:09):
No, lout of time.

Speaker 2 (01:36:12):
Not really you put it. You just record it every day,
put it on tape and send it to Amazon. They'll
print it for you. That's how you do it. Well,
I think it would be great the life and times
of you know, well, the world of football. I mean seriously,
I mean, you know so many aspects of the game.
You played the game, you coach, the game, you scouted
the game. It's great for young kids. I don't think

(01:36:33):
there's a book for youngsters how to play the game
of football. Seriously. There's a lot of basketball books. Oscar
Robertson wrote a great one years ago, and I have
a copy of it. But there's a lot of people
that write books on basketball, and former coaches do. But
I don't see any NFL former coaches running books. I
really except on their life perhaps, But if you write
a book for kids, you know, Fundamentals of Football by

(01:36:54):
Bucket Brooks, I'm telling you be a big time seller.
Promise you you want to think about it.

Speaker 7 (01:37:00):
You think, oh you think, you think, I think this
would happen. I don't know. That's tough. That's tough. That's
a tough seal.

Speaker 2 (01:37:05):
I know it's time consumer play it is. It takes time,
but I think it'll be well worth it. Right here
is Bucky Brooks. If you think you should write a book,
go on Twitter. I want us hear. I want to
hear from you at Bucky Brooks, at Andy Furman FSR.
And let's hear from you by the phone eight seven
seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven nine nine
six sixty three sixty nine. That's our phone number this hour,

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got the blame game and our number four, Yes, our
number four. A little bit of this and a little
bit of that. All right. By the way, where did
these guys come from? That's next? Ever hear of these guys? Well,
that's right around the corner. He's Bucky Brooks. Everybody heard
of him. I'm Andy Furman. We are Fox Sports Sunday
on Fox Sports Radio. We're live for the Tyraq dot

(01:37:47):
com studios and ask can you shall receive?

Speaker 16 (01:37:50):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:37:50):
I said that Bucky Brooks should write a book. He
should write a book on fundamentals of football for youth.
And guess what Mike in North Carolina has answer the call? Mike,
You're on Fox Sports Sunday with Bucky Brooks. How you doing, Michael?

Speaker 15 (01:38:05):
What's up? Andy? Love the show Man?

Speaker 2 (01:38:07):
You're the one, You're the one.

Speaker 14 (01:38:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:38:10):
I think I would definitely buy it. I would definitely
bout it. I love Bucky Man always since the NFL
Network days. Love Bucky.

Speaker 2 (01:38:19):
Could you tell him to his face right now that
he should get on that because it would be big,
It would be huge. I'm telling you it'd be a first.
I don't think there's any books on the shelf right
now for you for young kids how to play the
game of football the right way.

Speaker 15 (01:38:34):
Oh absolutely, I mean I'll take him over like a
mail cart for junior any day. Yeah, that's the whole difference.
But I also wanted to ask Bucky a couple of questions.
Has he thought about doing more booth work, like you know,
calling the game being the color guy for a game,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:38:56):
Actually, yeah, like during the preseason. I do the color
for the Jazz the Jaguars. I've done a few All
Star games where I've been in the booth. So yeah, no,
that's something that I'm definitely working on.

Speaker 15 (01:39:07):
I think you would be great because you said calm
And another thing, last thing I wanted to ask you,
how do you think my boy Tom Brady's gonna be
in the bus obviously getting a gazillion dollars, but how
do you think Tom's gonna do in the bud?

Speaker 2 (01:39:26):
I guess he's gone. I don't know. Yeah, Mike left
shot afraid there's too much afraid of your answer. Maybe
I don't know. How do you think Tom Brady is
doing the booth? That's what he wanted to know. What
do you think? It's not to say, it's to say, I.

Speaker 3 (01:39:38):
Think Tom Brady's gonna be great. He's gonna be great
because one thing we know about him is gonna be prepared,
no Doug, So he's yeah, he's.

Speaker 7 (01:39:44):
Gonna be prepared.

Speaker 3 (01:39:45):
And if he's prepared and he provides some insight from
his days as a champ, yeah, I think it'd be good.

Speaker 2 (01:39:52):
I'm with you. You're right. I mean, if you're prepared
as a player, you'll be prepared as a broadcaster. That's
what it's all about, really, I mean, you're prepared here
because you prepared as a player. It's a trait that
one has well one doesn't have.

Speaker 1 (01:40:04):
You have it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:05):
Tom Brady has no doubt about that. By the way,
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register for the Fox Sports Radio Bracket Challenge at Fox
Sports Radio dot com, where listeners can compete with our
hosts for bragging rights to see who has the better
attorney bracket. Now, I know Bucky Brooks beats the pants
off being bout and barrel betting, it's gonna be interesting
to see who does better in the bracket challenge. How
did you do last year in that bracket challenge?

Speaker 3 (01:40:45):
Oh, I don't know. I don't know if I focus
on it, But this year because you're in make sure
I'm very competitive and be locked in.

Speaker 2 (01:40:50):
Well, you know you can't finish last if I'm in it,
that's for sure. But let's get back to football for
a second. Because there have been about five FCS offensive
linemen selected in the first three rounds of the NFL
Draft in the previous three drafts, and as we head
closer to this year's draft, Yale offensive tacko kuran Ami

(01:41:13):
Gajee figures to be a strong candidate to keep the
streak going. Have you heard of this guy out of Yale?

Speaker 7 (01:41:20):
I haven't got that for in my study yet, but I.

Speaker 2 (01:41:23):
Got something on you. We look see. I followed the
IVY League and I want to know why there aren't
any more IVY League players in the National Football League.
Is it because of their skill or lack thereof their size,
their speed or people just shy away because of the
conference that they playing.

Speaker 3 (01:41:38):
No, it's not about a conference. It will just be
about the size and speed. But I will say the
linebacker for the Jacks van Jaguars starting mike linebacker for
ye Luikan, he's a Yale graduate, so there's no bias there.
Like if guys can play they'll find you. So it's
typically just situation where the guys just aren't good enough,
where they haven't landed in the right environment to allow
them to play at a high level.

Speaker 2 (01:42:00):
Margaji has a thirty six or three quarter inch arms
he does that. He ties for the largest reported arm
length for an offensive tackles is nineteen ninety nine. This
is what the report says on him. He's from Hinsdale,
Illinois and he's a big force at the FCS level,
which has the radar and NFL team, so he's following that.
But he had a quad injury at the end of

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the year this year at Dyal, so we'll see what happens.
He'll be drafted, there's no doubt about that. Now on
this draft list, when I say have you heard of
these guys? What about this kid, Quantes Stiggers, a cornerback
for the Toronto Argonauts. You've heard of him? He played
Division two Lane College. What about this guy?

Speaker 3 (01:42:40):
So the thing about Diggers is Diggers he went to
Lane College but never played, so he went right to
the CFO. I might have been defensive Rookie of the Year,
but because he's three years removed from high school, he
now can enter the draft.

Speaker 7 (01:42:54):
Saw him at the East West Rine game.

Speaker 3 (01:42:56):
Really intriguing story, fascinating prospect just because us the athleticism,
all of that stuff is exactly what you're looking for.
Now it's just a matter of how does he stack
up with the rest of the guys. But he's a
really intriguing prospect.

Speaker 2 (01:43:08):
And last year I think it was the Canadian Football
League's most outstanding rookie, which is amazing. But you know,
and I'm surprised there's more players that come out of
the Canadian Football League they go to the NFL than
there should be more perhaps, or is the talent level
that much less in the Canadian league.

Speaker 3 (01:43:22):
No, it's not the talent level. It's just it's a
different game.

Speaker 7 (01:43:26):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:43:26):
It's a different game and requires different skills. But the league,
the NFL is always looking up there. They always pay
pay attention to what's playing up there. We just haven't
seen enough of those guys make their way down.

Speaker 2 (01:43:39):
And the question I have, look, I know, those great
college teams could never ever beat an NFL team. Although
back in the day, so he used to have the
College Old Star Game in Chicago where the college oll
Stars who played the NFL, so once in a while
the college ol stars won several times. But could a
great college team beat a Canadian Football League team?

Speaker 3 (01:44:00):
No, still kidding, You couldn't, No, all right, because everybody
that's in the pro is a pro. Everyone that's on
the college team would not be a pro. So the
talent disparity would make it hard for them to be
able to do it. I know it's the thing that
we'd like to talk about, but now it it never happened.

Speaker 2 (01:44:17):
All right, Look, you're the answer man. I question you
because you know it all. You really do. And I'm
not saying that to blow smoke, but it's true, you
really do, all right. He is Bucket brokes on Andy Furrman.
If you want to be like Mike you can at
eight seven seven ninety nine one Fox eight seven seven
nine ninety six sixty three sixty nine. Out of course,
letting him go is a mistake for many, for many.

(01:44:38):
That's coming up next live from the tier rack dot
com studios. But first, Kevin Wyatt with all your sports.

Speaker 10 (01:44:44):
Yeah, college basketball Saturday, we had the first team of
the season punched their ticket into March Madness. Morehead State,
the first entrant into the Big Dance. They win the
Ohio Valley Conference Tournament championship. They beat Arkansas Little Rock
in the finals sixty nine to fifty five. Get themselves danceing,
and we have three conference tournament finals taking place later

(01:45:06):
today at noon Eastern Longwood and unc Asheville will square
off for the Big South Championship. And we have a
couple of games coming up at two Arch Madness in
Saint Louis. The Missouri Valley Conference Tournament will feature Drake
in Indiana State, and the Atlantic Sun Championship will have
Austin p facing Stetson. And as for the ranked teams
in action Saturday, number two ukn asserting themselves as the

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number one seed, they're able to overcome a fifteen to
two deficit to beat Providence seventy four to sixty Number
four Tennessee, however, they had a one seed in their sites,
but they got a set back as number fifteen Kentucky
wins it on the road against the Volunteers eighty five
eighty one. A couple of upsets in the Big twelve,
Number six Iowa State taken down by Kansas State sixty

(01:45:51):
five to fifty eight, Baylor losing to Texas Tech seventy
eight sixty eight in at North Carolina. Number seven seventh
ranked Tar Heel win in Durham at Cameron Indoor Stadium
against number nine Duke eighty four to seventy nine. A
couple of Big East matchups saw number eight Marquette win
at Xavier eighty six eighty and number ten Creyton beating
Villanova sixty nine to sixty seven. Number sixteen Alabama they're

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over ten winners against Arkansas ninety two eighty eight. Same
for seventeen threancs South Carolina. They needed the extra period
to get by Mississippi State ninety three to eighty nine.
In the Mountain West, Number twenty two Utah State Victoria
is thanks to a late three point shot to get
themselves past New Mexico eighty seven eighty five, and number
twenty four South Florida upset by Tulsa seventy six to seventy.

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In the NBA, the Celtics beat the Suns one seventeen
one oh seven. Phoenix did not have Devin Booker on
Saturday night as he was out with a sprained ankle.
Kevin Drand had himself a great game of the loss
of forty five points, but not enough to beat Boston.
The Nuggets demolished the Utah Jazz one forty two, one
twenty one as Jamal Murray had thirty seven points. Luka
Doncic yet another triple double, Yet another thirty point triple double,

(01:46:59):
his six ext in a row. As the Mavericks have
no problem handling the Detroit Pistons one forty two one
twenty four, and the Spurs win at Golden State one
twenty six, one thirteen, but no victor women Yam in
that game. Steph Curry also out he had ninkele injury
and he will be re evaluated on a Tuesday at
you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:47:18):
Thanks, keV, have a great day. Okay, the decision could
be tomorrow. We'll get to that in a minute. He
is Bucket Brooks. I'm Andy Furmer. We are Fox Sports
Sunday and Fox Sports ready to playing game in about
seven eight minutes. The im man Will hay in a
Ladd Let's talk about Kevin, the Kirk Cousins story, and
it sounds like we're going to know a Kirk Cousins
decision the quarterback for the Vikings, maybe as soon as tomorrow.

(01:47:38):
Really whether he's going to return to the Minnesota Vikings
for a seventh year or go somewhere else, and the
Ananta Falcons are the team that's kind of looming back
as the heavy favorite. If Cousins goes there. That the
NFL's legal tampering window opens eleven am Central Time tomorrow,
and I say an announcement will come real soon. But
you know what, Kirk Cousins holds all the marbles. He

(01:47:59):
really does. This is a trade for quarterbacks and free agency.
It's all about Cousins. Because if Cousins goes to Atlanta
and the Falcons do, the Vikings go after Russell Wilson,
the dominoes start to fall all because of Kirk Cousins.
He's holding it all. Cousins basically has the Minnesota Vikings
by the onions, if you know what I mean. That's
what he does. So what's gonna happen to Kirk Cousins

(01:48:21):
with his contract? Was it set to void at three
pm Central Time on Wednesday, when the new league year begins,
and that will accelerate a twenty eight point five million
dollar dead cap charge on the Vikings books, unless, unless,
of course, he resigns in Minnesota before then, I don't
think he will. He's gonna wait and he should.

Speaker 3 (01:48:40):
What do you think, Buck, Yeah, I think this one
for Kirk Cousins. He does have all the cards. And
I think because the Atlanta Falcons are willing suitors and
they will overpay to get a good quarterback because Arthur
Blaine wants a franchise quarterback. Yeah, I think he ends
up there and it's a great situation for him because
you're playing the same offense. Zach Robinson is coming over

(01:49:02):
from the Shawn Myvay system. They were all there to
get Kevin O'Connell and those got sorts of very similar
type deal. I think this is a perfect situation for
Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 2 (01:49:11):
You know, Kirk Cousins really has always fallen under the radar.
I think they picture him as a bit of a goof,
as a geek, you know, but he got great numbers.
You know, his numbers were basically parallel to Dak Prescott
last year, and no one talks about Kirk Cousins, maybe
because he's never won the big game, but he's always
put up big numbers. However, the end of the year
last year, he suffered a tremendous injury how often? And look,

(01:49:33):
how much will that hurt him in this free agency
merry ground. I don't think it will. I really don't
think it will. I think he's probably back. And here's
a guy that really and truly has done really well
in the National Football League, but has never been the
guy that has gotten a lot of notoriety for what
he has accomplished.

Speaker 3 (01:49:53):
Yeah, no, I think to play out well from he
has gotten a lot of notoriety. It's one of those things.
It's kind of funny when you think about it. But
he's cashed in. He's done a really good job of
cashing in on those moments. Hasn't won a time, but
it's put up good numbers in people fall for the numbers,
and we talked about his prime time record and all
that doesn't seem to matter. He's just good enough to

(01:50:15):
kind of break your heart.

Speaker 2 (01:50:16):
I'll give you a little bit of background of Kirk Cousins.
Tell me if it makes sense. It's a different free
agency deal for Kirk Cousins this year. Why he's gonna
be thirty six coming into next year and he's coming
off that torn achilles and he had good they had
really good six years with the Minnesota Vikings, but it
couldn't take them on a deep playoff front. And two
years ago when they lost to the Giants in the
first round, that was painful. It really was. It was

(01:50:38):
a shocker who was painful. But it is possible that
he goes back to Minnesota. And I think that if
he does it go to Minnesota. It's a big loss
for the Vikings. Okay, but there's that risk in an
aging thirty six year old Kirk Cousins coming off a
big injury. But I still think he probably has a
couple of good years left. Does that make sense on
this package I put together a little bit on Kirk Cousin.

Speaker 7 (01:51:01):
Yeah, he has a little bit love.

Speaker 3 (01:51:02):
He has enough to win, and I think for Atlanta
you want to feel like that the team around him
is good enough that he can win. So he's definitely
worth taking a risk on because you know exactly what
you're getting. Then you just have to build around that
part of it.

Speaker 2 (01:51:16):
Yeah, and the Atlanta Falcons are a team basically got
a great running game. They don't need a quarterback that
could run much Robinson in the backfield, so that's great.
So I think Kirk Cousins got to be high on
their list. But you look down the list as far
as other quarterbacks, and here's the deal. If Kirk Cousins
goes back to Minnesota, I would have to think Atlanta
goes after Russell Wilson. And Russell Wilson right now is roomed.

(01:51:36):
I guess Pittsburgh, the Giants and the Raiders. But I
think that, as I say, Kirk Cousins has only onions,
he goes back to Minnesota, all of a sudden, now
Russell Wilson's prime meet for the Atlanta Falcons, don't you
think maybe?

Speaker 7 (01:51:50):
Yeah, because I'm sure they want an experienced player.

Speaker 3 (01:51:52):
He's not quite the same player that they would want,
but I could see where they would be like, oh, yeah,
we'll do it.

Speaker 7 (01:51:59):
We'll go for it.

Speaker 2 (01:52:00):
You know, let's look at some of these free agent
quarterbacks right now, you got Wilson and Cousins basically one
in one A. Okay, Baker Mayfield. He's going to go
back to Tampa Bay. They loved him last year. He
threw up at four thy twenty eight touchdowns, and he
looks like, at the age of twenty nine, he's kind
of found himself in the National Football League and found
the team to work with. Okay, he's going to get
some interest if he goes free agent on the open market,

(01:52:22):
but I think Tampa Bay's going to come back and
get him. He's their guy. I'm not gonna say he's
a franchise quarterback, but he fits their system. He's going
to stay with Tampa Bay, agreed, nd Ryan Tannehill. He
may be in a broadcast booth next year. I don't
think there's a great market for Ryan Tannehill. Lost his
job to Will Levis last year, and he's going to
be thirty six next year as well. I'm not so
certain he's the guy. He was a pretty good starter,

(01:52:45):
certainly not a franchise quarterback. They relied on the running
game with Derek Henry all the time. So Ryan Tannehill
right now, he may go to another team. He may
not go as a starter, but he may go to
another team as a backup.

Speaker 7 (01:52:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:52:57):
I think that's where he is in his career, the
backup guy. I think he's a short term bridge starter.
I don't think I can't imagine him getting like a
full opportunity to do something on a major like as
a starter.

Speaker 2 (01:53:12):
Gardner Minshew, Sorry, excuse me, Gardner Minshew with the Indianapolis Colts,
he should be doing shaving commercials with his mustache. I mean,
that's his career right there, it really is. He played
last year after Anthony Richardson got hurt, and he wasn't bad. Okay,
but I don't think anybody's gonna look at him as
a starter. I think he's happy where he's at.

Speaker 3 (01:53:31):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:53:31):
Would Indianapolis keep him as a backup to Anthony Richardson.

Speaker 3 (01:53:37):
Yeah, the did definitely keep him, But I think he
may want more.

Speaker 7 (01:53:40):
You know, he may want an opportunity to do more.

Speaker 3 (01:53:43):
That's the thing. It's about not only what the team wants,
but what does he want. And I think for for
Garner Minshew, he wants to explore the mark and see
if he can find a job where he can eventually
be a starter.

Speaker 2 (01:53:53):
Yeah. I don't think that's gonna happen.

Speaker 7 (01:53:55):
I mean I don't either.

Speaker 2 (01:53:57):
He's better where he's at because I think there's still
questions with Anthony Richardson me he got hurt so early on.
He really hasn't proved himself in the National Football League yet.

Speaker 3 (01:54:06):
Yeah, I mean you're right about that for sure. He
definitely hasn't proven.

Speaker 2 (01:54:09):
Um, that's the nicest thing you've ever said to me.
That is the nice You're right about that. That is
the nicest year and all these months. Thank you very
m God, bless you, Bucky Brooks. Really, thank you so much.
Really we move on. Well, you know, I'm gonna end
it like that because it was so kind that you
said that to me, and it wasn't forced. It just
came out, so naturally We're gonna move on. All right.

(01:54:31):
He's Bucky Brooks and I love him to death. I'm
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Point your fingers. It's time. Why the blame game is
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minutes now before the top of the hour. He's Bucky Brooks.
I'm Andy Furman, and this is Fox Sports Sunday on
Fox Sports right anywhere, live from the tire rack dot

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Com studios. It's the blame game. Let's play with me.
It's all your fault.

Speaker 1 (01:54:58):
No, it's your fault.

Speaker 2 (01:55:00):
Why is it all year holiday? Maybe it's everyone's fault,
see the liar.

Speaker 1 (01:55:08):
That's why there's the blame game.

Speaker 2 (01:55:10):
The blame game. Let's figure out who to blame. Yes,
see the liar. Okay, here's the man, Go blame me.
The eyemn gonna handle it for us.

Speaker 14 (01:55:19):
Go ahead, ie man, all right, all right, the blame game.
So number one Dartmouth men's basketball players voted to form
a union as employees of the school.

Speaker 5 (01:55:30):
So who do you blame? Andy?

Speaker 2 (01:55:33):
You know what, I blame the students at Dartmouth. The
basketball team, which is like two hudred ninety seventh ranked
of the country. They're too smart. They're too smart to
be basketball players going to Dartmouth. No other school's gonna
do it. Back of twenty fourteen, Northwestern try to unionize,
it didn't happen. It's not a bad idea, but I
don't think it's gonna happen in antaa a block out
in the years. They voted with the thirteenth to two

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in favor of doing it the other day. But it's
gonna take years to get this finalize. It's not gonna
have not a big idea saying their employees rather than
just student athletes. But come on, really, they're gonna get
paid to get the nil money. They didn't even get
freaking scholarship to Dartmouth, So what are you doing? Stop it?

Speaker 5 (01:56:12):
Really, Bucky, who do you blame?

Speaker 7 (01:56:15):
Look?

Speaker 3 (01:56:15):
Man, I would say they actually have a good case.
So I'm gonna blame the NC Double A for not
taking this down this path earlier. They should have paid
the players a long time ago. So now what you have?
You paid the players. So now everything is running up.
You have Dartmouth trying to do what Northwestern did. As
Andy said back in twenty fourteen, this time they have
more favorable circumstances. But it's all the NC Double a's fault.

Speaker 7 (01:56:35):
They brought it on themselves.

Speaker 5 (01:56:36):
Both interesting points. We will give that one to Andy.

Speaker 14 (01:56:40):
Next, Russell Wilson will officially be gone from the Denver
Broncos in days. This is after coach Sean Payton often
defended him this past season. So, Bucky, who do you blame?

Speaker 3 (01:56:52):
Look, I blame Russell Wilson. I blame Russell Wilson for
not being good enough to previous season where he made it,
where Sean Payton came in looking to replace him. If
he'd been better under Paul on the Nathan and your Hackett,
then Sean Payton win had a different perspective. But yeah,
this is all Russell Wilson for he didn't play well
enough the first year, even though he proved a little
bit the second year.

Speaker 7 (01:57:12):
It's too late. They want more.

Speaker 3 (01:57:13):
Andy.

Speaker 5 (01:57:14):
Who do you blame?

Speaker 2 (01:57:15):
You know, it's easy to blame Sean Paigne because Sean
Payton defended him and gave him every opportunity. And you
could say to maybe Sempayne's a hypocrit, but I don't.
I think you gotta blame the money that he was
signed for. The money was ridiculous, and I think the
fact that Russell Wilson didn't play badly if you look
at his stats, but I think he's an aloof kind
of guy. He wants a different kind of guy to
mold with the team. So really and truly, money was

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a problem. But I think Russell Wilson himself, he's got
to go to a team where he could mold with
this team, stay with the team, and just be more
of a team first kind of guy than a me
first kind of guy.

Speaker 5 (01:57:48):
All Right, we'll give that one to Andy too.

Speaker 2 (01:57:50):
Andy. Yeah, yeah, Bucky take that, Bucky take it.

Speaker 5 (01:57:54):
Number three.

Speaker 14 (01:57:55):
Tons of talented NFL safeties have been cut in recent days.
Justin Simmons, Jordan Poyer, Kevin Bayern, and Jamal Adams are
all players who are without a team, Andy, who do
you blame?

Speaker 15 (01:58:07):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:58:07):
I think it's money. I think that the cap space
is a possibility. Just happened to work out that these
guys having to play the safety position. Other than that,
I don't I think there's anything you could put towards that.
Maybe I'm wrong, you know, I may be very wrong here,
but I think that if you look at the salaries
they make or what the teams need, I think they're
gonna afford to give these guys up. But maybe it's
even their age. I haven't checked their age as well,
but I think basically money is the possibility over here.

Speaker 5 (01:58:29):
Fucky, who are you blaming?

Speaker 17 (01:58:31):
Hmm?

Speaker 3 (01:58:32):
This is a tough one. Yeah, I think. I think
money certainly has to deal with anytime you're dealing with
like older players still in their prime. But the money,
the conversation has to match the production. And even though
the production is there, the salary cap and those things
makes it so prohibitive. So I'm gonna I'm gonna go
with I'm gonna go with the players and the money.

Speaker 2 (01:58:49):
It's the money, all right, Fucky, We'll give that one
to you now, so I can't shut them out. Though
I can't shut them out.

Speaker 14 (01:58:56):
It was reported this week that Arch Manning opted not
to sign off to a here in the upcoming NCAA
Football video game. Some fans are disappointed in that decision. Bucky,
who do you blame?

Speaker 7 (01:59:08):
I blame the Mannings brand.

Speaker 3 (01:59:10):
The Mannings brand didn't want Arch to be associated with
the game before. Arch is a really good player. They
don't want that attention to put him in a negative light.
So rather than have him deal with ay, I got
Arch Manner on the game, but he's not playing. He sucks.
They said, hey, we'll remove you from this situation. They're
trying to protect him. So I blame the Mannings for
him not being on the game.

Speaker 5 (01:59:29):
Andy, who do you blame?

Speaker 2 (01:59:30):
I blame March Manning. He who's better. He'd be on
the game because he's not going to play. Some embarrassing
to be on the game. And they say, wait a minute,
where is he's not playing on Saturday? That's the problem.
Get better, forget about your brothers, your cousins, anybody with
the name Manning. Go out there, work harder, get better,
and you'll play and you can be on the game.

Speaker 18 (01:59:48):
All right.

Speaker 14 (01:59:48):
I think Bucky just tied it up. So the tiebreaker here, dirty,
can we get the truth? Bill Belichick left the Patriots
fired or resigned, who knows, but he did leave. Sou
Who do you blame?

Speaker 3 (02:00:02):
I blame Bill Belichick for not getting it done? He Look,
he couldn't finish it up without Tom Brady. It's his fault.

Speaker 5 (02:00:08):
Andy.

Speaker 2 (02:00:08):
Oh, he could have been he could have gone. It
was him. He really was him. That's it, all right,
that's it all right.

Speaker 5 (02:00:13):
And Andy wins today.

Speaker 2 (02:00:16):
Take it, baby, take it.

Speaker 1 (02:00:19):
You're listening. No, Fox Sports.

Speaker 2 (02:00:22):
All right. She's great and deserves all the records and attention.
But but we'll get to that in just about a minute.
Good morning, everybody. This is Fox Sports Sunday and Fox
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Condway tyre buying should be and Bucky, we welcome Isaac
Lowland Crown at the Sports Update desk I lo thank
you very much for joining us today. We love having
you here. All right now, before we roll on to
anything else here, I want to just play this a
little bit because I am so touched and it got

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to me. And all the sporting events that happened this week,
the one thing that kind of stuck out so much
was that Jason kelsey retirement. Not that I was happy
to see him retire, but the fact that he was
like a regular guy. He shed tears. It was wonderful.
He was human, He wasn't a bully, he wasn't crazy,
he wasn't nuts. He was so sincere that he's going

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to miss the game that he loves, and he shed
a tear that got me. Let's take a listen to
Jason Kelsey and his wife.

Speaker 13 (02:01:33):
Go ahead, Jason, I won't forget the Eagles Christmas party
in twenty fourteen and heading out afterwards with a bunch
of my teammates to Buffalo Billiards, or my life would
change forever. That night I'd meet my future wife. I
still remember the moment she walked through the door. The
first instance is burned in my retina. It was like

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she glided through the opening around her then she started talking,
and I thought, man, is this what love feels like?
She was beautiful and smart, serious yet playful. I knew
it right away. I think it's no coincidence. I have
enjoyed my best years of my career with Kylie by
my side. Every accolade I have ever received has come

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with her in my life. She has brought the best
out of me through love, devotion, support, honesty, intelligence, and
of course the swift kick in the ass from.

Speaker 3 (02:02:29):
Time to time.

Speaker 13 (02:02:30):
She has also given me three beautiful girls in a
life that increasingly brings me more fulfillment off the field
than it does on. We've had a great run, Kai.

Speaker 2 (02:02:41):
You know what, if you don't have any emotion to that,
you have no pulse, you really don't. I mean. That
was Jason Kelsey earlier this week on his retirement, and
it should be unbelievable when he and his brother go
through the Hall of Fame together, well together, Jason will
gold before him because Travis is still playing for Gold
more years. But it's an amazing thing. But just a
human side that the tears, the sniffles that you just heard,

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you know, I don't know if you were crying like
that bucket when you retired, well you I mean, it's
just asking did you put on a show like that?

Speaker 3 (02:03:14):
No, I mean, I'm always trying to put I'm always
y know, I.

Speaker 2 (02:03:20):
Think you were there. I mean you were there, you
were I know, but you were a place that I'll
never be in the national Football they and I respect
you for that. But what Jason Kelsey did thirteen years
one team Philadelphia and put it all together at that
retirement news conference, and look the emotions they were real,
and I just I'm so touched by that. I think

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he really, he really won over America. I think by
doing I really believe he did. You know, I think
I'd like to see more athletes with that human touch.
You know, what was the last athlete you saw cry?
I mean really, I mean, I'm not saying crying is good,
but it shows that you have emotions, and some of
these guys don't. The emotions we see sometimes are on
a foot fotball field and some of them I don't

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even like That's what I'll say, but I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:04:06):
Yeah, the emotions are there. The emotions are there on
the football field. They're always going to be there, Like
it's bubbling up like when you think about the Kelsey,
thinking about Jason Kelce like super articularly, but you can
say he words is hard on his sleeve. Same thing
about Travis. We saw Travis have the incident with Andy
Reid on the sideline and a lot of it is
about passion, passion and purpose, like they really want to
play at a high level. It means a lot to
him and as a coach, it's a lot easier to

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deal with those guys than to deal with the ones
that you're always having to get going.

Speaker 2 (02:04:32):
No doubt about that. So we put that to rest
and I'll miss Jason Kelce, but we'll see him in
Canton several years from now. Now, let's talk a little bit.
And I know it's been redund that we've been there,
done that, we've gone down that road. But I want
to kind of put some closure on this Caitlin Clark
thing because that's another thing that irks me. You're right, Look,
yesterday Iowauld beat Michigan ninety five sixty eight. She scored

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twenty eight, had fifteen assists in that game, and it
wasn't a great eight performance by her, but still in
all fifteen assists was unbelievable. So today the number two
Hawk guys are twenty eight and four, will try to
claim the third straight conference tournament crown and the Big
ten also likely the number one seed in the NCAA Tournament.
They'll play the championship game because fifth right in Nebraska,
Nebraska is twenty two to ten. And then, by the way,

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if you're interested, they split the regular season Nebraska and Iowa,
and Clark average thirty four point five points a game,
eight assist and i rebounds and three steals in those
two games. All Right, Friday was a different story. The
Hawk guys won over Penn State ninety five sixty two,
and she had a three point record. Gave her one

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sixty four in that game, most ever by a Division
IE player man or woman, clock pass, Steph Curry or
one hundred and sixty two three pointer is the Davidson
two low, seven and eight. All right, and this is
what bugs me, the comparison factor. I'm not gonna let
it go. And everybody keeps on playing on it and
I don't know why, And there's no doubt in my
mind and anybody else's mind, there should be any doubt

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that I was Eitland Clark is an destraorery player. She's
worthy of standalone acclaim, there's no doubt about that. But
the comparison to Pete Maravich remains another case of craziness.
Modern media going nuts, choosing to ignore significant context. That's
what they're doing, making it insignificant for starters. We're going

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to ignore the fact that Caitlin Clark's five hundred and
nine to three pointers were over four years. Maravich had
zero over three years as freshmen were ineligible where Marrivich
played for LSU, and there were no three point shots
where Marrividge played. There's no comparing clock to Pete Marrivich.

Speaker 11 (02:06:37):
Why.

Speaker 2 (02:06:38):
I don't know why they're doing it. They don't compare
men to women in any other sport except basketball. Yet
she's a phenomenal scorer, she's a phenomenal shooter and passer.
She does all the records, she said, and she deserves
all the attention. Okay, but the Clark Mariviage situation is wrong.
It's apples to oranges. I don't get it. Marrivig record

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of three thousand, hundred and sixty seven points was accomplished
in three years as freshmen, as I mentioned, were not eligible.
He averaged forty four point two points a game. You're
throwing the three points shot because he often shot from
three and a minimum. He's at forty six hundred points.
If he had left bim Blout to play four years,
he probably scored six thousand points. Congratulations, Caitlin, But you

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don't belong in the same area code as Pete Maravich.
I don't get it. You take the three point here's
how you do it, and tell me if I'm wrong. Bucky,
you take all over three pointers, you take one point
away from each one of those three pointers and get
the total. And that's how you compare him somewhat. But
why even compare That's what I don't get it. Why

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are people comparing Mariviage to Caitlin clock. I don't get it.
Help me out.

Speaker 3 (02:07:50):
Yeah, I don't know what de fascination is. Maybe because
basketball and because there appears to be like a little
cross ginger thing, particularly the broadcasters, but two completely different
sports with different skill sets needed to dominate in those
in those ways. She's a fascinating story. She's one of
the best shooters I've ever seen. MG Mail a woman,
she's clutched, she's money whenever she gets the ball up
to the raight position I expected to go in. I

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just don't know. I guess there's a way to maybe
smudge her name, to not let her not that she's
the all time. I don't know. It doesn't really make sense, though.

Speaker 2 (02:08:22):
I'm gonna go crazy here. People are gonna go nuts
when I say this. But people are going crazy over
men and women and trans people swimming together in meets.
They're going nuts. They know trans athletes, you know, swimming
against women who are not women. They they're trands. So
why and they're doing that and people are going crazy
over to having legislation on that. So why would you

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compare Caitlin to Pete. Also, there's a National Women's Hockey League.
They don't compare that to the NHL. There's a national
National Women's Soccer League. They don't compare that to MSL.
Why are you comparing basketball men basketball women? I don't
understand it. If that's the case, let's have men play

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on women's teams. Do it that way. Let's have you know, really,
let's have let her play. If she's that good, let
her play for the men's team at Iowa, not on
the women's team. I don't. I don't get it. I mean,
on my way off base yet. Could someone help me?
Maybe Isaac longcron Camp because he's pretty smart, Isaac, could
you help me here. You're a sports guy. You know

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what's going on? Why are they comparing these two? Who
do you mean by they?

Speaker 3 (02:09:32):
What I mean?

Speaker 2 (02:09:33):
Here? Media people? Most media? I mean, that's all I hear,
that's all I see. Okay, in comparison, it's fine. If
you don't feel that's an appropriate comparison, that's fine too.

Speaker 19 (02:09:46):
It's like the sports media is just one entity instead
of individuals. If you don't want to compare Caitlin Clark
to Pistol Pete, that's completely fun. It's fine for you
to be irritated.

Speaker 2 (02:10:02):
But I agree, But I think it's the wrong in comparison.
Every time I read something or hear something, they'll say,
she's the all time leading scorer in college basketball. No
for women, for women?

Speaker 3 (02:10:11):
She is?

Speaker 2 (02:10:13):
Is this separate category they do keep separate stats. That's
what I don't understand. I don't get. You know, here's
the thing. They can't even count the Negro League in
baseball incorporate those stats in Major League Baseball. They made
that separate. So why we didn't incorporate women with men,
That's what I don't understand. And maybe on way off base,

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and you're right, maybe it's something I just agree with
and disagree with. I don't know. But John has something
to say, thank you, though, Isaac. John has something to
say about Caitlin Clock John, You're on Fox Sport Sunday
with Bucket Brooks and Andy Furman.

Speaker 8 (02:10:46):
Hello John, Hey Eddie.

Speaker 18 (02:10:49):
So first of all, I'm in Iowa. Sorry, And secondly,
I am a sports guy all my life and did
a talk show you know, twenty years ago when that
was first kind of getting going, and so I've paid
a lot of it. I was an SID before that.
So I'm into stats, but into staffs of my whole life.
Right and two had a real issue with this three year,
four year thing. I had a real issue with it

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until one fact was brought to my attention. Do you
know how many shots Pete Merrivitch averaged per game in
his career?

Speaker 4 (02:11:18):
No?

Speaker 18 (02:11:19):
Thirty eight shots a game. Do you know how many
shots Kaitlin Clark has average over her career?

Speaker 7 (02:11:26):
I don't know. Two?

Speaker 2 (02:11:28):
Okay, So yeah, Still it still does answer the question
of comparing one sex against another in different different games.

Speaker 18 (02:11:37):
I can't argue that point if that's you know. But
I'm just saying that that the three year four year
thing to me because that I had a real problem
with that, because I have a problem every time an
NFL record is broken and the guy who said it
played fourteen games.

Speaker 2 (02:11:51):
Are in right, I'm with you game, So I'm with you.

Speaker 18 (02:11:55):
Yeah always, I still, you know, have the mental or
excuse me. The Maris bay Ruth thing happened when I
was one, and it bothers me.

Speaker 17 (02:12:04):
Okay, so.

Speaker 18 (02:12:07):
That's that's where I've come from. But when someone shook me.
Here's a guy playing for his dad, taking as many
shots as he wanted and took thirty eight shots a
game to get all those points, and and here's a
person who's done it in a little more than half
of those number of shots. He's a very efficient scorer.

Speaker 2 (02:12:26):
But she played an extra year though, too, so it
kind of balances out she played that extra year.

Speaker 18 (02:12:31):
I don't have that. I'm in the car, so I
don't have stats in front of me. But if you
looked at his total number of shots and hers, they
might not be as far apart as you think because
of that extra year.

Speaker 2 (02:12:40):
Okay, let me let me, let me, let me put
a bow on this thing there. It's not amount. It's
not the amount of Look, I hear what you're saying.
You did great research. It's not the amount of shots
you take. It's how many times the bull goes in
the hoop. That's what they're counting. No one's counting the
amount of shots. When Will Chamberlin's going one hundred points
against the Knicks way back in the day, no one
counted how many shots he took. All right, they knew
he scored one hundred points. They're counting shots is something,

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but it doesn't mean anything. It really doesn't. It's wasted
work because no one cares about it. They care about
the total number of points at the end of the day.
That's what they do. Yeah, thank you, all right. I
don't mean to put him down, bucket. But still no
one cares about the amount of shots, right.

Speaker 3 (02:13:18):
No, I talked about the points bottom line school board.

Speaker 2 (02:13:20):
Right. When a guy rushes for a thousand yards a
year in the National Football League, they don't care how
many rushing carries he had. He runs for a thousand yards.
No one will cares how many carries if he did
it in seven hundred carries and nine hundred carries or
three hundred carries he runs for a thousand yards. That's
what the bottom line is. That's what they care about.
Help me, am I right?

Speaker 3 (02:13:39):
No, No, you're right. That's what everybody cares about the
bottom line. We had a time where they don't care
about the development, they care about the results.

Speaker 2 (02:13:45):
Thank you, that's all I wanted to hear. All Right,
we move on. I said my piece. I want you
to have you a piece new You could say, you
a piece about this comparison thing. If you don't want to,
that's okay, but I want you. I want to hear
what you have to say, because no, that's smarter than me.

Speaker 3 (02:13:58):
No, I think various sense of just posed to light
up the comparisons to give you a vision on what
the player could become. And so if you do it
the right way off of stylistic performers, that's the size
and those things. These are the guys that ship play.
So that that's what it is. And so you want

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you just want to paint the picture. And that's where
it comes from. In a scouting world, when you're standing
in front of the Hey coach and general manager. He coach,
if we take this player. He reminds me of this,
and it gives coaches an opportunity to have an AHA
moment when you're being descriptive.

Speaker 2 (02:14:33):
All right, I hear you. Makes sense, makes sense to me?
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We are Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio, about
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to twenty two on the East coast right now, spring ahead.
I hope you moved a clock and we have a
full call out of the great state of Indiana. The

(02:15:18):
who's your state? Paul in Indiana? You're all with Bucket
Brooks and Andy Furman. How are you good?

Speaker 18 (02:15:24):
How are you guys?

Speaker 2 (02:15:24):
Good?

Speaker 15 (02:15:24):
Talking to you?

Speaker 2 (02:15:25):
What part of India are you from?

Speaker 10 (02:15:28):
Uh?

Speaker 20 (02:15:29):
South of Fort Wayne, north of Indianapolis?

Speaker 7 (02:15:32):
There you go?

Speaker 2 (02:15:32):
Are you listening on twelve sixty am?

Speaker 20 (02:15:36):
Actually I just listened to you on the firsteen Indy
through Fort Wayne?

Speaker 3 (02:15:40):
Yeah, there you go?

Speaker 2 (02:15:41):
Okay, what's up?

Speaker 20 (02:15:44):
Talking about Caitland Cark and Pete Meravich. You know the
last guy, that Iowa guy, you know he had all
these stats involved. Well why didn't he? You know, if
we took all the shots that could have been three
point shots, how many more points would he?

Speaker 16 (02:15:58):
See?

Speaker 20 (02:15:58):
He didn't have a three point shot back.

Speaker 3 (02:16:00):
In the day, exactly.

Speaker 2 (02:16:01):
He only played three years. You couldn't play as a
freshman back then. The comparisons apples and ours is the
stupidest thing a And it's stupid to compare females and males.
You know, everybody argue the fact that males are stronger
and bigger, strong whatever may be, than females, So why
put them together? As far as records are concerned, I
don't get it. I don't know who started it, why
they're doing it, and it's it's crazy it's stupid.

Speaker 18 (02:16:24):
Really, it is crazy.

Speaker 20 (02:16:26):
But I just keep hearing about the money, how many
shots you doing there? But I always I never hear
anybody talk about that he did not have the three
point shot and that's huge.

Speaker 2 (02:16:34):
And that's what I said. If Caylen Clark had made
five hundred and nine to three pointers, which I believe
she has, just take away one point from every one
of those five hundred and nine and see how many
points she has. Then right, that's what you do. But
still doesn't even things out. And still you shouldn't even
compare him. It doesn't make sense.

Speaker 20 (02:16:50):
Yeah, you know taking my call.

Speaker 2 (02:16:52):
Thank you for I have a great day, Kevin in Connecticut.
You're on what Bucky Brooks and Andy furmanha on Fox
Sports Sunday. Hell, okay, morning, good morning.

Speaker 16 (02:17:03):
Your your idea, the comparison is way off base using
your logic, and Lebron should not be compared to Koreean
because cream.

Speaker 2 (02:17:11):
They played in the same league, they played the same sport,
and they're both the same sex.

Speaker 12 (02:17:14):
It's not no, you have to look at the vernacular,
the environment they played in. Okay, yes, women's basketball is
different than men, I'll give you that, but that does
not take away from the fact that in women's basketball,
Katelyn Park has done what she's done right.

Speaker 16 (02:17:33):
If you look at it as a pure sport, take
the sexism out because you're being sexist.

Speaker 2 (02:17:39):
No, I'm not, Bucky. Am I being sexist here? You're
out of your mind? Please now you stop it, Bucky,
help me. Really, i'm being sexist now.

Speaker 3 (02:17:50):
I mean, you're definitely not being welcoming.

Speaker 7 (02:17:55):
You're definitely not being welcoming.

Speaker 3 (02:17:58):
I think it's hard to compare its apples or orange
debate Kaylen Clark and Pete Merrivis. Like, the time is different,
the games are different. You should be able to celebrate
Kayln Clark and Pete Merrivitch. I don't know why we
have to put him against one another, but it's fascinating
that she could put the most points up, I mean
by a significant margin of anybody in college basketball history.

(02:18:19):
To me, that's a more remarkable story. But I understand
why you want to add a little pete pistol pete
because everyone loves pistol Pete. They're trying to get it
to resonate.

Speaker 2 (02:18:28):
Look when he came back and said, you can't compare
Lebron to other players. I mean they're in the same lead.
That's what it's all about. You're not going to compare
Babe Ruth to players now, Joe Demager, So, Joe Dimagio's
fifty six game hitting Street, you can't compare it to
today as some of his consecutive in sixty games. Now,
you're not going to compare that. I mean, come on,
it's the same sport, the same game. Certainly, it's changed.

(02:18:49):
Things are different, and certainly, if you want to go crazy, say, look,
everything in baseball is not consistent. Every baseball stadium's different dimensions,
So go there. You know, Fenway Park is different than
Yankee Stadium, then different than Seattle. Some players play indoors,
some players play outdoors. So but still, basically it's the
same sport. Sixty feet six inches from the pitcher's mound
to the batters box, all right, that stays to say

(02:19:12):
ninety feet stolen bases for stolen bases from bath pass
to bath pants. So I get that, but compare one
sex to another again? Are they gonna start comparing like
the records in the Women's Soccer League to the MLS
or the National Women's Hockey League to the NHL That's
what I'm upset about, not the record itself. Caitlin Clark's tremendous.

(02:19:32):
What she has done should be heralded. It'll go down
to history. She's changed the game more than any male
or female in the last maybe ten fifteen years, and
people can't wait for her to go to the WNBA.
She'll take it to the next level. But I'm just saying,
it's foolish to compare one sex against another in a
sport when we don't do that in any other sport.
And what are we gonna have now, have sports that

(02:19:53):
have men and women playing against each other. That's what's
gonna end up. Maybe I don't know. That's all I'm saying.
It's great, but leave it separate. Wow, Kevin, please give
me a break on that man.

Speaker 7 (02:20:07):
Somebody got fired up.

Speaker 2 (02:20:09):
Look, I'm sorry I even went down that robot. Not
now he's saying that I'm a sexist. How am I
being a sexist? If I just don't want to compare
the two, it doesn't make any sense. Buckie. If they
had a female in college playing tag football and you
scored thirty five touchdowns in North Carolina and she scored
forty and she said, they said, if she broke your record,

(02:20:32):
would that not Irk? You say, wait, it's a different
game against different competition. Come on, this doesn't work that way.

Speaker 3 (02:20:40):
Yeah, no, it doesn't work away. It's a different thing.
It's a different thing.

Speaker 16 (02:20:43):
It is.

Speaker 3 (02:20:44):
It is one that's interesting, but yeah, it's a different thing.
You can't compare apples and oranges.

Speaker 2 (02:20:48):
Thank you, Chasing Montana, You're what Bucky Brooks and Andy
Fermer and Fox Sports Sunday Hello, Chase, Hey.

Speaker 11 (02:20:55):
Yeah, I don't know. I think you're just like completely
off face because the amount of different, different things that
you could come up with to support either argument, either
for or against comparing the two is just like impossible
to quantify, you know, the different the difference in perimeter defense,

(02:21:15):
different in shots selections, Pete Merriviage took a bunch more shots,
Kaitlyn Clark time.

Speaker 2 (02:21:20):
Out, Chase, You're exactly what I'm just I'm not worried
about it that I'm not comparing. I just asked you
why should they have to go pay a male to female?
That's all I'm saying. Well, that's all I'm saying.

Speaker 11 (02:21:28):
Because you hit a tangible number mark, That's why. That's
why they did it, and to be honest, the only
person comparing them that I can find on the radio
is you.

Speaker 2 (02:21:38):
Then what You're out of your mind? Oh please, But
I'm happy to hear you say that. Maybe I'm the
only one you listen to. That's great.

Speaker 11 (02:21:46):
Well, you're the only guy who's talking about it.

Speaker 2 (02:21:49):
Not really, I don't think so. I wouldn't have brought
it up if it didn't hear from other people. That's
why I'm bringing it up. Am I the only one, honestly,
Bucky talking about I don't think so. I don't think
like that.

Speaker 3 (02:22:01):
I mean, you the only one that's kind of you
kind of irket.

Speaker 1 (02:22:04):
Oh no, you know what?

Speaker 2 (02:22:05):
Everybody? Well everybody, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:22:08):
I haven't heard as much discourse about it. I've heard
people talk about, uh, there was a lady who scored
X amount of points in NAI basketball and how she's
behind Kaitlin is behind her. But I haven't heard a
lot of the cross reference. I've heard people allude to it.
You're the only one that kind of pushed back on.

Speaker 2 (02:22:28):
It because everybody else excepting it. I'm not accepting.

Speaker 3 (02:22:31):
That's fine, it's fine, it's fine.

Speaker 2 (02:22:32):
You different, Yeah, I am a little different. That's for sure. Cody.
Hang on there, Cody in Kansas City. You know, by
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(02:22:54):
us because right now it's time for our guy, Isaac
Crown with all your sports. Thank you, Andy.

Speaker 19 (02:23:00):
Late Saturday night, Kansas City Chief Star defensive tackle Chris
Jones agreed to a new five year deal that includes
ninety five million dollars of guaranteed money. Jones had been
set to become an unrestricted free agent on Monday. NFL
Media reports the Denver Broncos signing safety PJ Lock to
a two year, seven million dollar deal. The Dallas Morning

(02:23:21):
News reports Cowboys have given receiver Michael Gallup permission to
seek a trade in the NBA. On Saturday night, the
Boston Celtics won at Phoenix one seventeen to one OHO seven,
despite forty five by Kevin Durant. The Celtics have the
best record of the NBA at forty nine and fourteen.
Dallas's Luka Doncic set an NBA record with his sixth
consecutive thirty point triple double in the Mavericks one forty

(02:23:45):
two to one twenty four victory at Detroit. Jamal Murray
scored thirty seven in Denver's one forty two to one
twenty one victory at Utah. Denver half a game behind
first place Oklahoma City in the Western Conference and in
a game that saw step Curry and Victor Webbin Yama
both not play, both because of right ankle injuries. The
San Antonio Spurrs what at Golden State one twenty six

(02:24:08):
to one thirteen. Andy and Bucky, Thank you, Isaac, I
have a great day. Okay, let's move on right now.
We're having an intelligent discussion.

Speaker 2 (02:24:15):
I have to believe on this Caitlin Clark versus Pete Maravich,
not the record itself, but why they're comparing male and
female in two different in the same sport, but two
different categories in a sense, That's where we're going right there.
By the way, we have a little bit of this
and a little bit of that coming up in about
eight nine minutes from now. Bucky Brooks, Andy Furrman here
with you, and I think Steven Montana Steven Montagno with

(02:24:36):
Buckey Books and Andy Furman how Fox Sports Son They hello, Steven,
how are you?

Speaker 1 (02:24:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 17 (02:24:42):
You know, I think you're exactly correct on this on
this issue. You're you know, you're factually correct. When people
start calling up and hollering tex Systems and ignoring facts,
I'll go eve one further. Give give Caitlin Clark all
the credit, giver all the flowers. But you know when
when I was a kid, when Lynette Woodard was playing,

(02:25:04):
you know, they had no shot clock in nineteen one,
eighty one eighty two. Caitlyn's not maybe not even the
best female player Lynette Woodard had to play. You know,
when when the people were holding the ball, Dean Smith
and Roy Williams would hold the ball for three or
four minutes. If your team got hot, they just passed.
They just passed around. So Leannette Woodard could have had

(02:25:28):
four or five thousand points at Kansas, but that all
gets ignored because it's not it didn't happen five or
five or ten minutes ago. But they didn't know what to.

Speaker 3 (02:25:40):
Do with that Woodard.

Speaker 17 (02:25:41):
They were nowhere for her to play. She played with
the Globe Cotters, you know, there was nowhere for her
to go. So to say that, like you said, it's
apples and oranges. She she's great. I mean, the networks
want to pay her to come back to the to
college because she's so valuable. No one's trying, no one's

(02:26:01):
trying to make Caitlin Clark less great. It's just that
there were so many great people like Pistol Pete and
Lynette Woodard in the in the past who didn't benefit
from these these rule changes that to compare them is ludicrous.
To compare Pistol Pete and Caitlin and Lynette Woodard are

(02:26:22):
ridiculous because there is no comparison.

Speaker 2 (02:26:26):
Let me say this, Steve, if I may, I'll get
the bucket a second. Well, he's he's an expert on
female women's basketball. Caitlin Clark is tremendous. And what she's
done on enough the court to promote and what she's
done for the game and growth and the interest is great.
She she's like the Taylor Swift of women's basketball. She
really is. She's been great, but she's great in her
own arena, which means she's great in women's basketball, and

(02:26:49):
that's where she stays. Okay, and and Pete Maravich was
great in men's basketball, and to put those records together
is crazy. And that's that's all I'm saying. I'm not
taking any thing away at all from Caitlyn Clark. She's
tremendous and I hope she goes on and saves the WNBA.
She was great for college basketball. She's great for TV ratings.
And Lynette Wooded, as you know, Bucky, you even said

(02:27:10):
that weeks ago that would it was probably the greatest
player ever. There's no social media then, there was no hype.
It is all hype right now. And that's what she's
getting and she deserves it.

Speaker 1 (02:27:20):
She does.

Speaker 2 (02:27:20):
The TV ratings are off the charts. Her TV ratings
beat the Boston Celtics several weeks ago on television when
she was on prime time. You know, that's how good
she is, and that's how good she is for the game.
But to compare her with Maravich or any other male,
it's stupid. If she had more rebounds in a game
than Wilt, If she had more block shots than Bill Russell.
Is she better than Bill Russell? Come on, forget it.

Speaker 3 (02:27:43):
I don't know what they're saying. She's better than Pete Marrivitch.
What they're saying is she's breaking our record, she's chasing
down his mark. They're not saying that she's better. Like,
it's not like we're playing a game of one on one.
Let's take Caitlyn Clark over Pete Marrivitch. I think they're
trying to use Pete Marrivitch to kind of prop her
up and actually allow people to know how great she is.

Speaker 11 (02:28:05):
Good.

Speaker 3 (02:28:05):
I mean, she shouldn't. Her greatness shouldn't be validated by
comparing her to a male. But what you're trying to
do is you're trying to validate it. Like, hey, I
want you guys to pay attention to her because you
know how much you guys love Pete Marrivitch.

Speaker 7 (02:28:18):
She surpassed Pete marriage is mark.

Speaker 2 (02:28:20):
That's a good point there, really is. You know, Kevin
and Connecticut wants to come back with give him a
second shot, because I think he wants to apologize. Kevin.
You're on Fox Sports Sunday with Bucket Brooks and Andy Freman.
How are you.

Speaker 16 (02:28:32):
Good. I want to apologize for geting on the sexist road,
because that wasn't really my point. My point is there's
always a problem when you do comparisons of any great
person to another great person because the game is so different. Yes,
the women's game is different than the men's game. Well,
is different than when Lebron played, when the Bears went

(02:28:54):
fifteen and one, is different than when the Dolphins went
twelve and zero.

Speaker 2 (02:29:00):
But it's in the same it's in the same compartment
sort of speak there. They're both in the National Football League,
they're both in the NBA. She's in a different league.
She's in a women's league. She plays women's basketball. That's
all I'm saying, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 16 (02:29:16):
The similarity is that it's still a tempt for it's.

Speaker 2 (02:29:20):
Still it's a small ball, and it's a different three
point line. Come on, Kevin, stop it. It's enough. Thank you.
Have a great day. Hey, Greg and Florida you're on
what bucket Brooks and Andy Ferman and Fox Sports Sunday. Hello, Greg,
how you doing.

Speaker 21 (02:29:33):
I'm good? Thank you for the opportunity to come on.
We need to stop disrespecting women by trying to lump
them in with men. That's what's happening here we have
I mean tennis, it's a different game and they.

Speaker 2 (02:29:53):
Don't do comparisons there. They don't compare it to this.

Speaker 21 (02:29:56):
Yeah, Serena better herself. She couldn't be the top one
hundred man because it's not because really it's a different game.
As I'm hearing, it's not. It's a different game, yes,
but men and women are different. Women are wonderful and
they play in their sport, and Caitlin is done wonderful things.

(02:30:19):
We should all the accolades, but stop trying to compare
men and women in sports. It's not fair to women
and it's.

Speaker 2 (02:30:30):
Not fair to men. It's not fair either way. It
goes both ways, right right the red it goes, It
goes both ways.

Speaker 21 (02:30:38):
You put her in an NBA game, How many shots
does she actually get up? Is she able to compete
underneath the basket? I'd say no, and no, she get
maybe thirty of the shots to put up that she's
trying to get.

Speaker 2 (02:30:56):
You know what, it's not going to stop. I mean
it just just the way it is is the society
we live in, bucket, That's the way it is now.
Everybody wants hype, everybody wants comparison, everybody wants a story,
an angle. And I don't know who initiated this. Some
lunatic call today and said that I'm the one that
he hasn't heard anybody else on the one who started it.
I didn't start it, you know, because I'm talking about

(02:31:20):
it because I've heard it before. I'm reading about it, okay,
and that hasn't been anybody with I quote common sense
to say that this should stop. Caitlin Clark is great
in her own arena in women's basketball, period, and the
story Pete Maravich did what he did in men's basketball,
and that's the end of it. But to say that
she's the old time leading scorer, it takes away from both.

(02:31:42):
That's what it does. That's all I'm saying. I leave
it at that book. That's what I'm doing. And I
can't believe the outcry. I can't believe that the feedback
were getting out this due so people are concerned with this, dude,
They're interested in it.

Speaker 3 (02:31:55):
Yeah, Look, I just think it's a nuanced conversation. In
some way. I understand what people are doing when they
bring about the comparison when they use pete marritage. Like
I told you, it's like the validation part of it,
trying to give it context to those things. However, I
understand the guy's argument saying that we need to quit
comparing women or having men validate women.

Speaker 7 (02:32:17):
And those things.

Speaker 3 (02:32:18):
I think what you're doing if you think about the
outlet right, the outlet is espnle we just use ESPN
as a thing. The people that are consuming ESPN overwhelming
the majority of males viewers that are watching, And so
what you're trying to do is like, hey, you should
appreciate her accomplishment because this over here was done.

Speaker 7 (02:32:37):
She surpassed at I'm.

Speaker 3 (02:32:39):
Not in general, I don't like comparing contrast, but I
understand why they're doing it.

Speaker 7 (02:32:43):
But I also understand your frustration with the process.

Speaker 2 (02:32:47):
In a way, I'm sorry I brought it up, but
I wanted to get it off my chest, and I
just think I'm not alone. And as I hear some
of these calls, I think was split. It was like
a fifty to fifty call ratio.

Speaker 4 (02:32:56):
Here.

Speaker 2 (02:32:56):
As someone who some people who are against it, I
think it's crazy apples and oranges, and some people say no,
let it go. And they think that I'm wrong. But
at least Kevin had the courtesy in Connecticut to call
back and apologize for a sexist comment, because I don't
think sexism had anything to do with it. I'm talking
about records. Really. I have a problem when they say
this NFL player rushed for one thousand yards and broke

(02:33:17):
someone's record, I say, put an asterisk next to it.
He did it in seventeen games. When I was a kid,
they were doing it in fourteen. Sometimes they did it
in twelve with delay. Jimmy Brown, he did it in
twelve and fourteen game seasons. Now they're breaking now the parameters.
One thousand yards in seventeen games, and these guys are
doing it in fourteen. So it doesn't make any sense.
But people live by those records, and that's what it is.

(02:33:37):
I don't think they know.

Speaker 3 (02:33:38):
They don't.

Speaker 2 (02:33:39):
I think the society today, maybe even media people today,
don't realize that they played fourteen game seasons. They look
at the record, they eat it up, and they digest it.
Do your homework, That's all I'm saying. Do your homework,
find out find out that Pete Mavericks didn't play as
a freshman take away to five hundred and nine points
that Caitlin got from three point goals because he didn't
have a three point shot. All I'm saying, make it

(02:34:01):
fair if you want to compare. If not, don't do
any comparison. That's all I'm saying. By the way, by
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(02:34:22):
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WHI should be ten am on the East coast. But
a little bit of this and a little bit of
that coming up right here next, a little bit of
this coming right up. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm any firm
of This is Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Ready.
By the way, top of the hour, which would be

(02:34:43):
ten am on the East Coast, Mike Harmon and Dan
Byer will join you. Take it away Harmon and Bayer
the Swollen Doman, Dan Bayer at the top of the hour.
And by the way, Buck, we need to thank our
crew today that stayed with us for four hours. Kevin wired.
This is Sports Updates, followed by the I Man himself,
Isaac Long I Man number two, Ian is right there
with us and Mark Ramsey. All thank you for being

(02:35:04):
with us today on our great show. And we're live
from the tiraq dot com studios. Now, I got some
stories here, a little bit of this, a little bit
of that. I'll report the story and I'll go around
the room. We'll let everybody comment on this and see
what you have to think on it. Business is booming
for Katherine Taylor. All right, here we go, a reporter
of San Francisco female escort. Taylor went viral earlier this

(02:35:28):
week when she was captured prominently cheering in the background
as Steph Curry celebrated on the court with a fake
golf swing during the Warriors one twenty five ninety win
over the Bucks on Wednesday at Chase Center. There was
a fan sitting close by was noticeably staring at Taylor
instead of staring at the court. All right, So Katherine
Taylor celebrates and the TL during the game and Curry's

(02:35:51):
pretending to hit a golf ball during the Warriors Bucks game,
and the photo went viral. Taylor was charging nine hundred
bucks an hour, and she identified us as the fan
on her website, according to the Daily Mail newspaper Okay Now.
Taylor has told TMZ that the viral picture has resulted
in a surge of intrigue, forcing her to nearly double

(02:36:13):
her rate at fifteen hundred bucks an hour. Taylor also
told the outlet that her website crashed from the increased demand.
She claimed that several professional athletes have reached out to her,
though she wouldn't say who they were. Taylor has since
the Leader her ex account, but not before she addressed
her viral moment, Bucky Brooks, have you noticed any guys
when you played in the NFL? No names? Of course. No,

(02:36:33):
you're not going to drop any names, any names if
you want to, you can, though that went to like
a woman like this an escort during the NFL.

Speaker 3 (02:36:44):
Andy, No, like, I don't know anything about this. Come on, now,
I don't know anything.

Speaker 2 (02:36:51):
In five years in the NFL, you haven't seen one
guy go to one escort service?

Speaker 7 (02:36:55):
No escort service, No, not at all.

Speaker 2 (02:36:58):
Okay, but you did see the women waiting for the
guys that they flew into that.

Speaker 3 (02:37:02):
Man, I think that's a policy. I think you'll know
where that's. Yeah, I think that's a made up thing.
I think that's everybody's fantasy land. No, it doesn't happen
like that. Well, like when you're when you're a football player,
when you're when you're on a football team, you get
in like you normally flying. You get to the hotel
at five, you start having meetings at seven thirty eight o'clock,
like there's not a whole lot of time for hanky

(02:37:23):
panky in there, Like it's not a lot of time
to do these things that that people talk about.

Speaker 2 (02:37:29):
Well, I will tell you this much. When I was
the pr guy for the Fort Lord of Dale Strikers
in the North American Soccer League, we had a player
by the name of George Best team. May he rest
in peace. He was the Joe Namath of his time.
He was like Broadway Joe, And I'll never forget. We
flew to San Jose to play the San Jose Earthquakes
in soccer and at the airport there must have been

(02:37:49):
like fifty women waiting for George Best to get off
the plane. That's that's George Best. I mean, I've seen it,
you know, and the fact that I was, I was shocked,
not only the fact that they would do a fifty
women waiting for him, the fact that they even knew
that we were coming to town. Because the North American
Soccer League was like a fledging league. It wasn't that
big at the time, but that's the way it was. So,

(02:38:10):
you know, I think it happens more so there because
in football you're in and out, and soccer would kind
of spend the extra day sometimes maybe. And we had
George Best, you know, I mean, George Best was George Best.

Speaker 3 (02:38:22):
He was the king.

Speaker 2 (02:38:22):
He really was. Okay, here's a story for you.

Speaker 3 (02:38:25):
I did.

Speaker 2 (02:38:25):
Aron officials this past Wednesday imposed a two hour time
penalty on musher Dallas Sevie for not properly gutting the
moose he killed during the race. Earlier in the week,
Race Marshall Warren Palfrey conveyed a three person panel of
race officials to investigate the circumstances surrounding the death of
the moose, which became tangled up with Survey and his

(02:38:48):
dog team early last Monday, about twelve hours after the
day long race officially started. One dog was injured in
the encounter and flowed back to Anchorage for care. Now,
if a musher kills a big game animal like a
mo who's a carabout or a buffalo in defense of
life or property during the race, rules require they got
the animal and reported to the officials at the next checkpoint.

(02:39:10):
He did not gut that he was fine. Like three
hours on the I did a ride, of course, have
you ever seen that? I dinner?

Speaker 3 (02:39:15):
Rod.

Speaker 2 (02:39:15):
I have never seen it in person, have you, Bucky Brooks?

Speaker 9 (02:39:19):
I am not.

Speaker 3 (02:39:20):
I've not been in a place where did a ride.
I've only seen it on TV.

Speaker 2 (02:39:24):
Me too, I'll go and step further. I've never seen
a moose in person, have you?

Speaker 8 (02:39:30):
No?

Speaker 7 (02:39:30):
Never?

Speaker 2 (02:39:30):
Never, I've seen the zoo.

Speaker 3 (02:39:33):
The only time I can say is I've seen Rocky
and Bulling Court.

Speaker 2 (02:39:35):
That's it, right, That's exactly right, all right, Buck, It's
been a great day, it really has. I love being
with you as always, and I hope we do it
again next week. They have a great days. No football today.
What's on your plan? I want to your plans schedule
for this afternoon. I'm watching with Kaitlin Clark at noon East.

Speaker 3 (02:39:53):
Yeah, plenty, plenty of basketball. Plenty of basketball, So I
watched basketball all day.

Speaker 2 (02:39:57):
There we go, all right, as mentioned Mike har and
Dan Byr The Swollen Dome, Dan Bar taking the rest
away right here. Keep it on Fox Sports Radio all
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