Andy Furman & Arnie Spanier Discuss Hulk Hogan's Impact, Bengals Trey Hendrickson Negotiations, Caleb Williams In The Ben Johnson Scheme, And More!!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
All right, he changed the game. That's coming right out.
Good morning everybody. Right now, let me introduce my brother
from another mother to one and only Arnie Spaniards. Spent
too long audien for Bucky Brooks today. How are you?

Speaker 1 (00:17):
My friend? Andy? Firm and good morning.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
You're right.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
It has been way too long, and you threw me.
You threw me off guard here I thought I was
driving the show today.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Okay, you drive? No big deal, No big deal ahead,
I mean we can no.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
No, If I drive, you'll never learn, Andy, So I
might as well.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
A good time for you to learn, my friend. Let's go,
let's go. No I need, I need. I have been
my friend. How's it going?

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Thing is wonderful. I hope you're doing well. I got
a couple of questions to ask you just a minute.
But you know we're broadcasting live from the Fox Sports
Radio studios, and uh you know I understand right now that,
uh is it true? You live in Vermont? Right? I live?
But I'm moving.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
I don't know if you know I'm moving from Vermont
like about a month. Why would you do that?

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Because I want to pay more taxes, so I'm moving
to Connecticut, I should move to you. You are you
in like Kentucky? There's nothing word. I live in Kentucky,
but I used to live in New Hampshire. You know. Geez.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Yeah, it's gorgeous here.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
But my wife is uh is making us She's getting transferred.
So we're going down the Connecticut and we'll see how
it works out there.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
I believe too many people now the question I have
I was told this, and I don't know if it's
true that there is no McDonald's in the state of
in Vermont.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Is that no, no, no, no, there's no McDonald's in
our state capital in Mount Peelier, the only state capital
that doesn't have a McDonald's in the United States. But
we have the world's largest filing cabinet.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
I don't know if you know that here in Vermont.
But there's nothing to put in it because there's no
that's the problem.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Really amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
It's great having you here, bucket idea. But we'll have
a little fun here for three hours, and that's great.
And you know anything on your mind. You want to
move along, you want to drive here, go ahead. I'm
a switching seats with you. Go right now.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
No, you know what it's even though that football is
just getting underway, because I always consider the Hall of
Fame game to start a football not the first regular
season game, not the week one of the preseason. It's
always the Hall of Fame game that starts football. But
there's so much going on, I mean other stories. You know,
what's going on in practice. I love these practice bourbs

(02:23):
we get and who's looking good and not looking so good,
and all kinds of side stories going on.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
So it seems like it's really busy out there, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
No, the best story is that when you sent me
last night, it's unbelievable, the gold medal of soccer legend
Carly Lloyd. Oh yeah, I said it though, that's unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Story. Do you believe that?

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Well, first of all the people that don't understand, I
guess Carly Lloyd, who played on the women's soccer USA team.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
She was kicking field goals and she did.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
Kick a fifty five yard and I think you saw
essential the video of it. I believe she kicked the
fifty five yarder. But then I went to the commons Andy,
and she did take like five steps to you know,
it's not a kickoff. She didn't take like five steps
until she kicked the ball. She could be a good kicker. Look,
fifty five sixty is the new normal in the NFL.

(03:18):
But I don't know. I didn't know she had such
a strong leg. I know she tried this before. I
think it was a couple of years ago, and her
leg wasn't as strong as she's showing now.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
But she really booted that ball.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Man, I was.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
I was quite impressed. I don't know if she could
play in the NFL. I guess she got a couple
of offers right away from NFL.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
She did the kick, she did the fifty five yard
kick at the Eagles training camp. Yes, she's unreal real
so you know it wasn't like she did in her backyard.
Knowing so, but when I when I heard it and
when you sent me this, you know, the first thing
that came to mind.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
That's when I take happy Gilmore. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Why I think of a happy Gilmore, you know, take
taking golf shots. I don't know why, but happy Gilmore
and Carly Lloyd.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
But that's great.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
You think she could happened? Do you think she could
do it? Or what it's gonna happen because you know why,
it's gonna sell tickets and it's publicity, and someone's gonna
you know, you know, do you realize there are fifteen
female assistant coaches right now in the National Football League,
And I'm sure there are some guys right now that
are not too thrilled taking orders from a female. I mean,
just just the way it is. You know, there are

(04:19):
macho guys that play in the National Football League and
some woman and assistant coaches that go over to this
guy and say, you know, you're not blocking correctly, and
he's gonna say, well, you know, who the hell are
you to tell me to do this?

Speaker 1 (04:29):
You never played the game, do you know what?

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Though, Andy, I don't know if that's necessarily true in
twenty twenty five. I mean, look, we do talk shows
and it's kind of like a you know, very macho
business in sports talk radio.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Do we ever say to our boss.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
You've never done a radio show, I'm not gonna listen
to you. I don't think that ever comes into my mind,
you know what I mean, we say behind their.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Back, that's what we do.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
That's there.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, Look, I've always felt that the guys that run.
I don't want to go down that road. I got
myself in trouble. I was saying, but do you think
eventually that there's gonna be a female that plays in
the LTWN you know, but you know what, they got
the female leagues right now, they got female you know,
flag football, So you know, I think it's great.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
You know why I think it's great.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Not so much giving the females his chance to play,
because I think they deserve that.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
But there's more jobs.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Anytime you get people working and more jobs and doing
what they love to do, I think it's wonderful.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
I really do.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
WNBA you name it, women's soccer, you know, women's hockey.
They got a women's and your kid plays hockey. I
know they got a professional women's hockey league right now.
I think they do.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
They do. So you look, she's got a strong leg.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
I don't know if it's you know, strong enough to
play in the NFL, but it was quite impressive.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
I saw the video and I guess the players were
going berserk.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
They were cheering her on. So good for her, you know, yeah, right,
I think, you know, just to switch gears for a
second of the big story, right, this week was I
think hul Colgan. Yeah, And I heard a host on
this network. I'm not gonna mention names because it's it's
not polite. I mean, I respect everybody who works beyond
the microphone, and I love everybody, I really do. But
I was touched because he said, why are we kind

(06:04):
of honoring this guy and mourning him after he died.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
I'm talking about Hulk Hogan aka Terry J.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Belliah Okay, And I would say what he has done
for the quote sport of wrestling. Some people don't think
it's a normal support of real sport, but what he
has done, he's taken it to another level. He took wrestling,
I think, from the backyards from a local situation to
a national and international sport. He had done what to wrestling?
I think what Magic and Bird dith in the NBA.

(06:31):
He may think I'm crazy, but you know, this guy
right now is a legend. He really is good, better
and different. If you don't think it's real, if it's scripted,
whatever it may be. But I remember watching him once
on TV and they asked him about that, about the
sport of wrestling, and he said, hey, look, people think
it's scripted. I think it's fait, but I saw those
shots that I take. You know they're not fake. It hurts,

(06:52):
it really does, you know, Andy, It's interesting. You know
when Hulk passed away and Ozzie passed away. And I
said this on the air when I was about a
filling in or Sunday night, I don't remember.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
At this point now, I said, look, I wasn't a
wrestling fan, but I was a fan of Hulk Hogan.
I wasn't a heavy metal fan, but I knew Ozzy Osbourne.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
These guys were bigger than the genre they were part of.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
If even if you didn't like heavy metal, you knew
Ozzy Osbourne, even if you didn't like wrestling, you knew
Hulk Hogan. You knew him from first of all, the mustache,
the ripping of the T shirt.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
He transcended wrestling.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
He was bigger than the sport, all right, So you
did I look, Yeah, I knew some of the people
in wrestling. I didn't watch it, I didn't go to it,
but I knew Hulk Hogan. I knew what he was about.
When he came on TV. I wanted to nobody had
to say.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
You know, it's a shame that in somebody's worst moment
that you're going to be judged on the day that
you pass away. Look, we're all not perfect, did I understand?

Speaker 3 (07:56):
He certainly had his indiscretions, and we all know all
about it. But I don't know if that's the right
time to start going in and jumping on the guy.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
He's He's done a lot.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
He also used to do, you know, stuff for make
a Wish, and you know, I deal with sick kids.
So look, everybody's not perfect, and we understand what he did.
I didn't think that's the first thing that crossed in
my mind. But Hulk Hogan is certainly bigger than the
sport of wrestling, which is I mean, look what like
you said, what Magic and Larry did to the NBA,
what he did for wrestling wrestling, I mean it was popular,

(08:32):
but not what it is now, And Hulk.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Hogan was a big part of that end, no doubt
about that.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
What he basically did, You're right he had he had
some skeletons in the closet, but everybody does, no problem, right,
But he transformed the sport and I still call it
a sport a local show to a worldwide event. He
was guessed on the on the late night TV shows,
which is unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
He was a brand more than that. I hate to
use that term, I mean, but that's that's what he was.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
He was a brand, and he was bigger than life.
I think kids liked him, adults liked them, men liked.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Them, women liked him.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
I mean, he reached all kinds of you know, different backgrounds,
and it was amazing how popular he became.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
It was unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
And his signature mustache and everything about him. I didn't
know he was sick the last ten years or that,
or at least seriously sick. I guess he'd been dealing
with a lot of illnesses.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
And then I saw that video.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
That somebody took of him being taken out of his
house on the stretcher.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
I thought that was that was tough to watch. I
wish we didn't have that, But gosh, seventy one years old,
and that is probably old andy for some of his
fellow wrestlers.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Some of them have.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Died really really young, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
Obviously, there's always steroid talk, and I think I think
admitted to taking steroids, So seventy one I thought was
kind of old for you know, some of his fellow
wrestlers that passed away a lot earlier.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
When I hear the term brand, I don't know what
I'm thinking of you. I think of Arnie Spaniards's brand.
I mean, am I crazy? I mean think about I mean,
think about the term brand, and I really and truly
don't know what it means. But a brand, to me
is like someone who kind of like carries the the.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Shield of what he's representing. That that to me is
what a brand is.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
But brand is when when even if you don't watch
like I said, even if you don't watch wrestling, even
if you don't like heavy metal, you knew Azzie, you
knew Hulk, right, these guys were bigger than their sport
or anything like that. So that that shows you how
popular are when you're like, people know Tom Brady, but
they don't really know him outside of football. People know Lebron,

(10:44):
but that's really from basketball. Hoak was just everything I
mean a movie star or TV star or wrestling star,
you name it. He had his hands in it.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
So that that's why he was, you know, so much
more popular than than you can imagine. You know, you
just touched something very very interesting. Okah, Because you talk
about the NFL and they have a brand. Maybe Tom
Brady was somewhat of a brand. You know they played.
I mean Patrick Mahomes, maybe he's a brand whatever it
right be. And NBA Lebron's a brand. I think the
problem maybe with Major League Baseball. I don't think they

(11:16):
have a brand. Now think about that that I don't
think that one guy that really represents major League Baseball
he's a brand, George.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
They do Judge j Otani.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
You know, maybe you know people like that Otani, maybe
something will be bigger than they given baseball.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
But his problem is he doesn't speak English. That's the problem.
I think he does. He just doesn't want any you know,
let on that he speaks better English, you know what
I mean? Well, and I think that's a problem where
I think we're major League Baseball is kind of really
lagging behind. Because the game is great. I love baseball,
always have as a kid. But I think that they

(11:52):
don't have one spokesperson that you can like Trout.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
When Mike Trout was really crushy it and they said
he was coming up as the face of baseball. I
used to say, I couldn't tell you, Mike Trout if
he was wearing jeans and a T shirt walking down
the streets of LA I'd walk right by him if
he didn't have like an angel jersey at his name
on the back, if he had jeans and a T shirt,
wouldn't even look twice out of him to.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Think, hey, is that Mike Drought. I think he just
think you just passed me. Wouldn't even know what do
you look like? As he walked right by me, And
you're exactly right. But I ask you, is why why
is that? I you know, maybe he's just not in
the forefront. I'm really not sure we recognized. Maybe the
TV plays for could be, could be.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
You know, I mean, my goodness, Uh, even the NFL
players who were face masks, we recognized more than baseball
players out there.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Except for somebody like Judge. He's very recognizable. So maybe
it's the sport. Maybe the sport's hurting. I don't understand
it because they just had the All Star Game, and honestly,
I mean the rating they looked like twenty million views
on TV.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
The sport is hurt and look what they've had to do.
They've had to make the game shorter, they've had to
make the game quicker.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
They made major changes.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
We have like H D H.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
And you know, we made it in all leagues and
all kinds of and look at the pitch the pitch clock,
and my goodness, man, all the changes we made the
Major League Baseball is to get more people interested, is
to get the young people also interested.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
And that's what baseball is lacking.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
You know, it's funny, and I'll run this by what
did you take about the All Star Game? Because I
thought it was it was a clown show when it
ended in a tie and had a home run contest?

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Why was it? Why was it a clown show?

Speaker 2 (13:31):
If you look at the records right now, they didn't
even have.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
A winning or a losing picture.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Because of that, you play nine Indas and it comes
down to a home run hitting contest, right, Joe, it really,
it's come on, I don't enjoy I enjoyed that, right,
I enjoyed the home run hitting contest, but not in
an All Star game. I don't need a winning pitcher
or who's the picture in the All Star Game?

Speaker 1 (13:49):
And I enjoyed it.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
It's an exhibition, and you know, World Series home field
advetage no longer on the line here, so you you know,
you enjoy it for what it's worth. And then instead
of going into extra innings or finishing in the tie,
they did the home run thing.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
I thoroughly enjoyed. I thought it was very good entertainment.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
What about going on second base and extra innings right
now during the regular season, that's a joke.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Don't you think that's another way to speed up the game?

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Andy?

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Because why it gets me?

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Speed it up?

Speaker 3 (14:17):
Because too many young people are just too bored with it.
It's just the way it is.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
To hell with it. They're not going anyway. Because the
beauty of baseball. I've said it before, I'll say it again.
The beauty of baseball is the only sport that's timeless. Really,
it's time, right, I mean, every other sport is a clock,
right right.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
Tommysora says that all the time, and he's right about that. Unfortunately,
people love, especially the television networks, what.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Do we do.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
We went from like three hour games to two and
a half hour games. That's a big difference, especially when
you go or watching it on TV.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
People want it quicker. They wanted faster, but they runed it.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Annie.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
The TV's ruined it because when I was a kid,
who was like a minute a minute and a half
commercial time between innings, now it's almost two and a
half three minutes between each innings.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
The on the ones that ruined it, they.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Yeah, I don't know if you get that much, but yeah,
the commercials. They have to get it in. There's no
doubt about that. That's what drives it, that's what pays
for it. Andy, There's no other way around it. So look,
do you think it drags too much? Is that why
you're complaining it takes too long or what?

Speaker 2 (15:19):
No, I have no problem because when I was a kid,
I remember going to Yankee Stadium and going there at
one o'clock on a Sunday, coming home at eight o'clock,
watching two games, going to double headers.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
I had no problem. I mean I lived for that.
I love it. Those days are over and the event.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Do they even schedule day night double or just double
headers anymore?

Speaker 1 (15:34):
They don't do that. No, No, they'll do it day
night for two admissions, you know, for.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Right, but that's if a game gets rained out, you know,
or something like that. Crazy, you know, the downfall to
me of the All Star Game and why the ratings
have been down. The crapper, I think, anyway, is the
advent of interleague play. The excitement of the All Star
Game was seeing these guys from the other league for
the very first time.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, but then how do you how do you look?

Speaker 3 (16:00):
Even though they say the NFL All Star Game gets
ratings the Pro Bowl, I don't believe it. But I
don't think people are interested in that. I don't think
people look at what's going on in the NBA All
Star Game. People certainly are not interested in that, and
that has nothing to do with interwegue player or to
that effect. I think people are just tired in general
of All Star games. I think that's kind of passed

(16:21):
and they have to think of something new. They've got
to work around it.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
And you know what, I think the players are tired too, because, yeah,
MESSI took off in the MLS All Star Game.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
I tell you how stupid he is.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
He's got suspended last night they played the FC since
the night play, So why why didn't he because he
skipped the game. Why couldn't he just say he was sick,
he didn't feel well instead of just skipping the game.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
That's how stupid he is.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
Why can't you go to the game and not play
and just kind of sign autographs and take pictures.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
I don't get it.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
I really don't. Although maybe he thinks he maybe he
is bigger than the game. I mean, MESSI really he
could very well be and they and they played to
it time and not know.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
It's funny you mentioned bigger than the game is.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
There's a lot of stories we'll probably get too later
on that really bothers. The heck got to be like
the players and coaches in the NFL that were selling
their Super Bowl tickets, which on the secondary market, which
means that regular fans who wanted to go to the
game had to pay crazy prices because everything was so expensive.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
I hate when that's crazy. That's so oh wait, that's
so wrong to do that. Let's get into that for
a second. Wait a minute. I saw that story and
it was like, the players are given these tickets, they
could do whatever, you know with them. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
I don't know if they're given or they have to
pay face value. I've gotten two different explanations on that.
And let me ask you, is if I gave you.
Let's say I had two tickets to the Cincinnati Bengals game, right,
and I said, you know, I just can't do it.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
I can't go.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
Here's would you like to go? And you said sure,
I'll take the two tickets? And then you took the
two tickets and you sold them and made money. I'd
be pretty you know. Mummed out at you, I said,
what are you doing that for? What don't they Why
don't you just give them away? You don't have to
sell them.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
I gave it to you for free. Why don't you
give it away for free? But it doesn't work that way.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
If I have any items in my home and I
donate them to a charity and they sell them or
walction them up, what do I here?

Speaker 1 (18:14):
They're gone? I mean, just just the way a good will.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
People got a good will all the time, right, They
give away their clothing and they sell it.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
So what was the big deal? What's the big deal is?
But do these athletes have so much money? And to
go ahead, and it directly affects the fans. You're selling
super Bowl tickets to a secondary market. In return, that
secondary market pumps up the prices of the Super Bowl
tickets how about you have Super Bowl tickets. How about
you give it away to, you know, a buddy of yours.

(18:41):
Since you make so much money, how about you give
it to a local radio or TV station. How about
you give it to make a wish, or you give
it to a charity. Why do you have to sell
it and make yourself a couple of thousand dollars?

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Maybe not, because you know why, you're in a Pollyanna world.
It doesn't work that way. Really, you know, everybody's out
to make a buck. I don't care how much one
of these players make. Everybody does it. You would do it,
I would do it. We all do it, and it
happens all the time. If I told you Bezols gift gifts,
you get gifts of Christmas and you never open up
your red.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Give it to somebody else. Was on Jesus.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
But if I was, if I was Riches Bezos and
I did something like that, you would criticize me like crazy.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
You know that's how he got rich.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
He probably does it too. Right. Oh my goodness, let's good.
We're just getting started off. Getting steamed up. Arnie standers here.
I love it for Bucky Brougs' is the best. I
love you, I love you like love, like a brother,
and you get him on Twitter x whatever you want
to call that sticking genius one.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
I love that. What a stinking genius one.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
I love this one long time. And Andy Fourman FSR
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Speaker 1 (19:45):
We're gonna have ask Garney. We usually have a bucket.
Have to ask Karney today that far.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
We'll just do it. I love okay, yeah you and
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Speaker 2 (21:33):
All right, the fireworks have already begun. That's right around
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You know Brianna one of the great producers on Fox
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she found out that you and I are gonna be
doing the show together.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
You know what, she writes, What can I tell the
difference between the two of you?

Speaker 2 (22:18):
What does that mean?

Speaker 1 (22:19):
I have no idea how we were both good looking?
I'm assuming so I don't get it.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
I mean, to be fair, you guys do sound pretty similar?
Do we really? Kinda? Yeah? Really, my boys is a
little bit more raspier than Andy used to be honest.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Yeah, you're from New York, aren't you?

Speaker 2 (22:39):
A little bit?

Speaker 3 (22:39):
I am from the Bronx New York. You're not from
the Bronx or Brooklyn. Yeah, big difference between the two.
To be honest, you're more Hordy Tody. I'm more from
the slums.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Oh come on, really die but did let me tell
you that the Bronx and certainly not bel Air or
Beverly Hills or anything like that. I promised you, right,
so you got out of it early. I guess not
too early. I was like twelve years old enough to
go ahead, and you know, scar me for life. Oh jeez,

(23:11):
I love it all?

Speaker 6 (23:11):
Right?

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Then this took a little college football, is okay? Give
you a little college absolutely, absolutely because they're trash talking
right now, their finger pointing right now, and we even't
even start yet.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
And the kid from Michigan, the defensive end, Derek Moore,
he was joking on Thursday that Ohio State's national title
wasn't a real win because the Buckeyes didn't defeat the Wolverines.
I love this stuff. I love him back and forth.
But if you're a coach on if you're a coach,
what is the coach? He's got to be pulling hair
out of his head. Why are you doing this? Why
are you giving them ammunition? I don't get what ammunition.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
Why they're gonna try harder now that they've read a
comment like that from a coach or player, it's like, oh,
now we're really going to get them.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
Before we were just going to play half assed.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
But now that they're making fun of us, we're really
gonna go ahead and try it. I mean, come on,
it doesn't do anything, It doesn't affect the game or
I love it. I love the trash talking, but yeah,
it's it doesn't do anything. It doesn't give him any
ammunition or anything like that. Andy, Well, look, you know
they're gonna get fired up. It's the big game on
the skills, the biggest game of the year for both teams.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
It really is. But I think that it creates a
little more heat. Not so much maybe on the playing field,
but in the stands. Get a couple of guys who
had a couple of Bruskis in him, and they start
talking about this stuff, and you know, next thing, you know,
the fights all over the place.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
I mean, ask you, do you have to Ohio State Michigan.
Do you really need that? You don't think there's gonna
be fights in the stands anyway. You don't think it's
gonna get absolutely crazy. And you know, especially for a
game like that, I mean, it's it's already a fever pitch.
I don't think this is gonna change anything. I don't
think this makes much of a difference. Well maybe you're right.

(24:43):
You know, I never thought of it that way, but
you know, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Tory, just not to
change subjects. But since you're doing college football, I was
just kind of curious because we were talking about this
the other day.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
I don't know if you heard about the Memphis player.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
Who left the team and then, uh, this was last year,
and then they were playing University of Texas San Antonio,
so he got he texted them or tweeted them whatever
you want to say, the game plan and the play Yeah,
and I and we were arguing about this. If Harmon
and I were arguing about this, I said, that was

(25:20):
so wrong. I go, you just don't do something like that.
It's uh, you know, it's kind of like an unwritten rule.
Like baseball has their unwritten rules. It's kind of an
unwritten rule. If you're not going to be with the team,
you just move on, no hard feelings, but you don't
give the game plan to the other team. I thought
that was I had major major problems with something like that.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
And that's a low life move. It really is, it
really is.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
You know, it's funny because in the NFL, if you've
got a playbook and you traded a cut, you got
to turn that playbook in right. And but if if
you know the plays and look you get cut and
you get picked up by another team or anything like that,
everything's fair game.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
I just thought that this was wrong. You know, when
you're doing something like that, it's sour grapes, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
You look, our people, our age Andy, they always say,
don't burn bridges.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
That's what you're doing.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
What do you think other coaches feel like when they
hear or see that a former player is going to
red out his former team and give the you know
another and you're not even playing for that team. You're
just being vindictive and you want your former team to lose,
so you're doing everything possible for Well, you're saying everything
that I agree with. However, let's go one step further.
It to you, what do you think the coaches do?

(26:30):
What do you think the Michigan the University of Michigan
coaching state was doing two years ago when they go
to the stands and had people scouting the opponent when
they weren't being able to do was illegal? Absolutely right, yeah,
absolutely right.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
You know, you got to wonder how much cheating really
does go on still in sports, whether you know, whether
it's football, baseball, basketball, or whatever. It's hard to cheat
in basketball, but in football, you got to figure it's
still going on.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
They're just not getting caught.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Andy.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
There's still Shenanigan's happening, but they're smaller than the rest
of us to just not get caught.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
You know, it's funny you mentioned that I use the
term cheating, and you know, cheating goes a long way.
And I think a lot of people, a lot of
teams that have been very successful probably have cheated to
their success. But I look at nil name, image and likeness.
Is legalized cheating because the day, you know, back in
the day, they were just giving these plays money under
the table.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
Now they're giving them on top of the table. What's
the difference, right.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Well, because it's legal now though it's not illegal, legal,
but the teams that had more money are being more successful.
When Ohio State spending fifty million freaking dollars for a
football team, something's out of while.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
But we change that now Now there's a twenty million
dollar cap, right is that what it is for each right? Well,
and then you have to go ahead and figure out
how to get money on top of that through boosters
and you know, local businesses and you know that type
of area to go ahead and go over there. But
the twenty million is a good start, at least I

(27:55):
thought it wasn't kind of you know, evens the playing
field a little bit not complete, but just a little really, I.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Mean, you think the school at the University of Toledo
University of Connecticut is really going to be even with
Ohio State?

Speaker 1 (28:07):
Well that's but it's never.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
But before NIL, they were never on the same grounds
as them, or they were they were never going to
goe and be equal.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
So what diff does it make it?

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Ven I, but it was there's always a choice that
you could get a star, a budding star going to
one of those schools, maybe even by accident.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Right now, And you know this as well as anybody.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
When the coach was recruiting back in the day, the
number one question you would ask a coach, coach, am
I going to start?

Speaker 1 (28:30):
How many games are we on TV?

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Now?

Speaker 1 (28:32):
The first question is how much money do I get?

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Really?

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Right, That's what it's all about.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Is that wrong? Though?

Speaker 1 (28:38):
Is you know? Is that wrong?

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Because everybody else is getting their pie? I mean, this
is what we wanted, This is what this is what
you want to and I this is what everybody wanted. Oh,
these kids are being taken advantage of. So let's give
them part of the pie. Let's give them their money.
Let's make sure that they have I thought when NIL
came out that this was going to be like, We're
going to make sure that the kids have food, to eat.

(28:59):
Remember those stories like, oh, in the summertime, there's no
training tables.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
The kids are.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Starving to death. They're starving.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
I'm thinking to myself, Oh, they're starving. There's some kid
in bed because he doesn't have any fruit or something.
It was all bogus, but they're starving to death. So
I thought nil was going to be to make sure
the kids have year round food.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
And they're like maybe five hundred dollars a week to
go on a date or go boweing or do a
movie or something like that. I didn't know it was
going to be like millions and millions of dollars like this,
And this is crazy, you know. I agree that they
should be paid because basically they're the show, and I
think that anybody in business, they're the only they're the
only actors, if so to speak on workers in America

(29:42):
that don't get paid for what they do. Think about
that and people because they only got a scholarship. So
what you know, the band members get a scholarship too.
You know, there's a lot of scholarships out there. But
what they do is that they bring in students, they
sell merchandise, they get him on TV, they do all
the hard work, and they do a lot of work.
But practice is a long thing, and it's just he's
a long deal. However, I don't know the inner workings

(30:03):
of NIL because I don't know if the soccer players
are getting money.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
I don't know if the non revenue, well twenty millions.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
The twenty million is supposed to be split up, not
just for the football team, but it's among you know,
all the sports out there like Texas Yeah, well Texas
Tech field swimming, they their picture Kennedy for Texas Tech.
She gets a million dollars in NIL money because she's
such a great pitcher out there, probably the best pitcher

(30:30):
in college softball. So she's getting more than a lot
of the basketball players and the football players. For sure.
She's getting it from a booster. I think there's gotta
be something. No, no, no, it comes from that first
comes from the twenty million. I don't know how it
breaks down after that. Andy, that's above my pay grade.
But it starts with the twenty million that each school
is being allotted, and then after that, I don't know

(30:53):
where the hell the buddy's coming from. To be honest
with you, I don't know what's going on. I think
things are better when it was under the table cheating.
I really believe hundred dollars handshakes? Is that what? Look,
I've worked in colleges and I've seen it, and I'm
not gonna mention names because they were good to me
at the colleges.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
But I was shocked. Is this eris Dickersnomo.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Going down that road? But look, I love college sports.
I mean, I just think that there's gotta be a
better way. Don't you think there's gotta be a better business?
Is like almost out of control? Don't you think what?
I mean? Really, you just are?

Speaker 1 (31:26):
What's bothering you? That they're getting too much money?

Speaker 2 (31:29):
Is that everybody? It's it's it's a free enterprise. Make
as much as you can. But I think there's got
to be some sort of a balance of checks and
balances system with these schools. I mean, again, there is
so much of a divide right now. I mean there
always was. But you know as well as I do,
aren't you? You could name the top ten football teams
right now before the season starts one because of the

(31:50):
money they're gonna give out to the players.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
What I don't want to see happen is like the
quarterback Nico who went from Tennessee to u CoA kind
of like the highest bidder that's going to happen. But
the way that whole thing came down, it certainly made
him look bad and just made the whole system look bad.
To be honest, you know, maybe there should be a
rule that you can't transferm one than once. Okay, maybe

(32:13):
that's a possibility. I watched North Carolina basketball about a
year or so ago. The one team playing University of
North Carolina went the five different schools. Come on, really, well,
you and I went to college.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
You couldn't do that. You couldn't do it. You had
to sit out a year.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Yeah, I mean it was like two years, right, and
nobody wanted to do that.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
Nobody ever wanted to give up a year of your eligibility,
so nobody ever transferred it once. It was so bad
that you weren't getting playing time and you had no choice.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Then your coach left that recruited union went to go with.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
Him, right, exactly exactly. I just look, I love college sports.
I think it's great. I'm not going to stop watching
it because of this, But there's got to be some
sort of control on the NCUAA has no control whatsoever
because these schools are eventually going to break away from
the nc double A, and they basically.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
Had and they probably should. They probably should. I think
it's about time they did. The NCAA has done a
bad job.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
Long time. Really, that's true, not true, it's been it's
been a debacle for.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
A long long time. We certainly need a new term
of guidelines.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
I guess for a lack of better word or a
better better term to oversee this thing because what's going
on now just doesn't work.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
You know.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Getting back to this Ohio State Michigan, Yeah, yeah, which
I love. This past Thursday, Derek Moore, we took from Michigan.
He was making fun of the representative from Ohio State,
Josh Williams. Josh Williams last de summer introduced a bill
in the state of Ohio that would classify get this
flag planting at Ohio Stadium around the Buckeic football game
as a felony as a felony. Look came back, I said,

(33:45):
that's crazy, but I got to say, that's Ohio for you.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
Could you imagine somebody doing that getting off the field
with handcuffs on or you know, could you imagine what
the fan Mayfield did it when Baker's played for Oklahoma,
putting flag down there right right right, which was a
big thing back then. Everybody was talking. I remember I
was talking about it, saying it's disrespectful.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
How could you do that? And it is disrespectful? Why
would you want to do that?

Speaker 2 (34:10):
You don't have a little control, a little self control,
you know, learn how to win, just like you learn
how to You know you love it, Arnie, you know
you loved it. Yeah, I know what I'm pretending like.
It's insult I know, yeah, I know you are. You're
not that good of a goodie person, you know what.
You're the kind of guy that I would to that
would plant a flag. You would you beat a flag
planter on the team designated flag planter.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
If I saw somebody doing it against my team, I'd
be the guy that runs over and tackles them or something.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
You know how to do that. I think it's great.
I think it's all part of the spirit. Maybe it's
not a good spirit, well, the spirit of college athletics,
it's part of it. Really, what's the big deal? I
mean you put a flag? That is so I mean Yeah,
what do you think the fans are doing? You know,
if it's on the road, the fans get all riled
up over something like that, you know, planting a flag
and you want to rest a guy. But on the

(34:58):
on Main Street down there a club, Ohio, a high street.
It is high street. After a game when they lose,
they burn couches in the street. That's what they do.
But that's nothing wrong with that, right, I'm real. I'm
believe the Arnie Spaniard and man today he's in for
Bucky Brooks. And don't worry, he's got only answers. Why
is that coming up? Ask Garny?

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Speaker 2 (35:29):
All right, ask Garny, coming right up. That's Arnie Spaniard
in for Bucky Brooks today, my brother from another mother.
We're live for the Fox Sports Radio Studios and my
name is Andy Ferma. Who we're rolling along now because
are you ready? This is a first for you, mister Spaniard,
isn't it. It's not I used to do I used
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had a regular show. So this is this is a

(35:51):
regular show. This is not irregular, is it? This is regular?
You're right, you're right, My bad, my bad? And we
you know our execut producer. We have a little nickname
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Speaker 1 (36:07):
Are you ready for ask Connie? I'm ready.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
I'm ready.

Speaker 6 (36:11):
Afraid what you're gonna ask? A No, this one's harmless. Fine,
I'll play nice. This one's harmless.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Play nice. He's not that smart.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
But you should hear what I say to my producers
and stuff when I do this show Sunday night.

Speaker 6 (36:31):
I know I've lived that lord. But anyways, let's start
it off. I got one question for you, Arnie. So
it's NFL training camp. We all know that I kind
of got like a what do you think is more
of a like a cause for concern? If you know
you're for your team, would you rather be your offense
is absolutely glowing during training camp, which means your defense

(36:55):
getting torched? Or would you rather see your offense struggling defense?
Let's just say, like like Caleb Williams getting just picked
a part in all of what.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
I can't have my offense struggling, especially when you see
these reports. Look at Colin attacking the Chicago Bears already.
Would what was that that people are putting up all
over the internet that Caleb Williams had six interceptions?

Speaker 1 (37:15):
I yeah, I know that's yeah, But I don't even
know if that's important or not. I don't even know.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
I have who the hell knows if that's going to
hurt them during the regular season or what. But they
they talk about it like it's the super Bowl. When
my team struggles offensively even in practices, I'm like, oh,
it's gonna be a horrible season. Come on, Tyreek Hill.
They lost John hus Smith. That's gonna kill them at
tight end. So I'd rather see my team just looking

(37:40):
really good offensively. Of course, it's like a double edged sword,
a sword that means I'm I'm getting torch defensively.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
But I'll deal with that.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
As long as I get to UH and Tyreek Hill
on the same page and a chen and everybody like
that and waddle, I'll feel good and we'll have to
piece it together on defense.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
All right, sounds good. I got a question for you
Arnie here. Yes, Cincinnati Bengals. They moved from afternoon practice
sessions to morning's practice.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Coach Zach Taylor said this week that he claims this
will help for a quickest start this season.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
How is that going to help for a quickest start?

Speaker 3 (38:13):
I don't know, but it sounds good. That's a good answer.
I'll go with it. And he doesn't have to give
a reason. First of all, why are you not practicing
in the morning?

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Anyway?

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Doesn't it get hot out? I would think that the
reason why it is too hot in the afternoon exactly.
And by the way, is there a team that doesn't
practice in the morning.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
I mean, who doesn't get up at eight o'clock and
start drills and practice and you know, go to tables
and meetings and.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
And all that.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
I just thought everybody went ahead and started their practice
in the morning. You're actually breaking news to me. I
had no idea, are you? What are the players do?
Just wait around until the afternoon until it get and
humid and sweaty and say, okay, it's time to practice.
I would figure everybody practices in the watch the views.
They're putting that on a hiatus.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
You know that right, yes, yes, Chris Paul okay not
only return it to the La Clippers, but it's gonna
be back in his old familiar number three jersey. Kind
of ask you've been around the block a couple of
times how important the numbers for athletes that they go
crazy over the.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
Day It is because I mean, they used to pay
for it, you know what I mean. You know, it's
so funny you mentioned that because I was on the air,
I think with Harmon and he sent it to me, Uh,
this story of Chris Paul, and then there.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Was no other story about it.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
I'm like, is this real? Are we sure that it's not,
you know, one of those fake accounts or something. And
it was real and it was like, no big deal,
nobody made any you know grand oh look at this.
This is a good move for them, good move for him.
It was like, no big deal, was just an afterthought,
and yeah, numbers are really really important. I'm waiting for
the first person to wear one third again, like Eddie Goodell,

(39:51):
remember him, Oh yeah, you can't do that. How about
of you just wore like a question mark or exclamation
point or you know, amber sound or something like that.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
I think, get away from number. Savannah Bananas do that?

Speaker 7 (40:08):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Do they?

Speaker 3 (40:09):
I love the Savannah Bananas. I absolutely I love them.
I think they're just so much fun to watch. I
want to play against them or play on the team.
I think it'd be great.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
You know, I would say this if I was a
GM or a manager or a coach of a team.
I don't think I would permit any of my players
to wear the number one and number zero. I just
don't think anybody should wear number one. I don't. I
think there's something about an eagle, an egotistical athlete that
puts a number one on his back.

Speaker 7 (40:35):
Don't either.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
We just start having tripled like one hundred or you know,
go past the two digital, let's get let's get crazy
out there.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
It's gonna happen with the Yankees of Celtic because so
many of those numbers are retired. Really, I got one
for you. Tyreus Halliburton from the Pacers. He was talking
about the uptick and Achilles injuries across the NBA, and
he says it's just bad luck.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Do you agree?

Speaker 2 (40:55):
I don't agree with I.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
I don't think I agree with it. But it seems
like the three guys that got hurt. All had like
calf problems or something before it happened. So I'm thinking
maybe that was a big part of the reason there.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
Andy.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
I'm not a doctor, but I don't think it's just
bad luck among the three or four that got it.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
I think it's a little bit more than that. I
think I'm playing too many basketball games. Could be who
knows about that. All right, this is really great, it
really is. Arnie Spaniel's with us. He could do it all.
But Willie that and more, we're Fox Sports Sony coming
up right here next, all right? In his absence, he asks,
is he a Hall of Famer? That's coming right up?

(41:33):
And in his absence that means Bucky Brooks isn't here?
And my brother from another mother, Arnie Spaniel is, and
the way we go, well life, let's say.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
By the way, let's pick it is. Let's pick on Bucky.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
Brooks a little bit.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
Go right ahead. No, just this guy though, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
I've just got Are you playing in the Fox Sports
Radio Tackle Football Game?

Speaker 1 (41:51):
Am I?

Speaker 2 (41:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (41:53):
I didn't even know that I had one? Or you
didn't know that. Well, you'll have to play, don't you?

Speaker 2 (41:57):
And I guess I was invited. Well, there's no tackle football.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
What is wrong with you?

Speaker 3 (42:06):
You really think that they're gonna have a tackle football
game with our former NFL players that are doing shows.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
Right now, by the way, if we were having if
we were.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
Having a tackle football game, I did rank them, and
my number one pick would be Brady Quinn, you know that,
because you need a quarterback, so he'd be my first pick.
My second pick would be LeVar Arrington because we need somebody,
you know, just cream the quarterback.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
Okay this much.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
If they did had that game, I bet it be
on LaVar Arrington's mike to spit you out and you
up and spit you out.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
My third, I gotta go with receivers, So I took
Plexico Burris number three and TJ.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
Huschman's odd at number four.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
Gotta have those receivers and Andy and then you gotta
get tough against. I took Rich Ornberger at number five.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
And this is where I'm.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Picking on Bucky Brooks. I took Carrie Rhodes.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
I had a Bucky Brooks at the number six, and
then I put Bucky Brooks at number seven.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
Jeff Schwartz from Sam number nine, is Buck.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
You're gonna be mad that we had him all the
way down as the seventh pickout of nine as soon.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
As I tell him that, he.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Knowing in his fifties, come on, now, let's go.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Let's guy's.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
I know, I know, I didn't realize we had that
many NFL guys. That's NFL guys. Why how about that microphone?

Speaker 4 (43:18):
You know?

Speaker 7 (43:19):
Why is that?

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Let me ask you say, say you're an aspiring journalism
student communication student in college. You want to get involved
in talk radio or TV work whatever. It may be
the best thing you could do. If I'm a professor,
you know, I tell him, forget about the textbooks. Really football, Yeah,
come to school with a football jersey on. Go to
the football coach and say, coach, I really can't play,

(43:41):
But put me on the team as like a student
assistant or a manager. This way I can say I played,
I can earn a letter. So when I graduated, get
a football letter from you, and I could maybe get
a job in sports talk.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
All right?

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Why is that Andy wants to fire half far Home?
So which ones do you want to fire? Anything?

Speaker 7 (43:56):
Now?

Speaker 2 (43:57):
I don't want to fire, I just want to say
I think they have an easier rout getting to this place,
and other people do, don't you know.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
I look, I enjoy something.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
I've done shows with just about everybody on that list too,
so yeah, but uh, it's it is kind of weird.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Nine.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
I didn't know that either until I started making the list.
I'm like, wow, we have a lot of former players
doing shows here. That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
Well you missed one, but he's so long a here
and I started with him way back when Lincoln Kennedy
he was thep Oh.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
That's right, well Lincoln, I would probably have him right there,
like number nine, number ten, so you know, I would
have I don't hope he doesn't get mad, but but
you know.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
What, they would have have a game, but maybe not
tackle maybe five Flint for now?

Speaker 1 (44:36):
You want a game, man?

Speaker 2 (44:37):
How you are Flint? Football is a different animal. Because
I think i'd go with the speech, so I go
with Jonas Knox.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
Oh, how many people?

Speaker 3 (44:44):
How many of the listeners would be watching if we
said we had a tackle football game just for the
host and even if you didn't play in the NFL,
so Jonahs would be playing or you know, you me
stuff like that. Oh, I think we'd probably have more
people watching us than w NBA games or something.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
You're speaking about that, I mean, what is your take
on the w I'm glad you brought that up. Are
you a w NBA fan?

Speaker 1 (45:09):
Do you like the league?

Speaker 2 (45:10):
I'm not a w NBA fan per se, but I'm
a Caton Clark fan, So I do like watching her,
and I do like watching the games she's in to
see what she's going to do.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
Does that make sense? I I'm not so much like
I won't watch any two teams.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
I'm in the w NBA, and I do like to
watch Angel Reese a little bit, but I I like
watching Caitlin Clark. I like to see what she's going
to do, and I'm I'm a fan of hers. That's
why I like to watch.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
Again, Actually, I was gonna buy like an Indiana Fever
shirt just because of caitlind Ckark to be really yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
You know what, I'm gonna get you one because I live,
you know, about one hundred miles from Indianapolis. I go
to often.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
Make sure it's a double xl andy. I've gained a
little way.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
I go there not so much for the sports. I
go there for Shapiro's Deli in Indiana. I love that
Tommy Sandwich. But I will say this is funny how
certain athletes can suck you win. And I think that's
a good thing because I remember two years ago when
she was playing for Iowa and I would play in Indiana.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
I drove out to blooming to see her play.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
I don't even go see the women play at the
University of Cincinnati, which is right near me, or xav
University of Northern Kentucky University.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
I don't go, are you cake Andy.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
We just got done talking about how I didn't go
to wrestling, but we knew Hulk Hogan. We didn't like
Heavy Meadow, but we knew Ozzie. Maybe we don't go
to women's games, but we certainly want to see Caitland
Clark play. I mean, that's the point that we made
in Hour number one. She kind of transcends her her
own sport. It's it's not about the you know, girls basketball.

(46:40):
I just want to see Caitland Clark play. I want
to see what she's going to do. If she was
playing a game of horse against the guys, I'd watch that.
I just want to see her shoot, and I'm so impressed.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
And there's the difference because when I was a kid, well,
my dad would take me to Yankee Stadium. I didn't
care who was playing. I didn't known Mandle was in
the line up or not. But I was just so
excited to go to a Yankee game. I went and
that was the end of it. The same thing on
Sunday nights, he used to take me to Madison Square,
Gorard to see the Rangers play. I used to go
these playing Sunday nights. But now in this day and age,

(47:11):
I think people go to the games because of the
drawing card. Like I know the Dodgers a company Cincinnati
this week. I want to see Clayton Kershaw. I want
to meet the guy. I'll go to the game.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
And that's one of the reasons people don't go to
the games for the games anymore. They go because they
want to see their favorite player, like a Steph Curry
or Lebron or something.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
And you know what.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
The second reason why they go to games Andy, even
before the game itself to enjoy it, is because it's babohead.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Night or have you seen some of the lines for
some of.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
These baboheads, or you know, souvenir bats or something. It's insane.
There's people that will just line up for the souvenir,
get it and go home. They don't even want to
go to the game. I've seen that they do it
it Cincinnati. They line up on the tremendous lines. They
get the crazy to take a car and drive away
and they put it on eBay and they sell them right,

(48:04):
so they do. Some of them actually keep it because
they like the souvenirs. But you've seen those lines.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
What was it.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
It was Pittsburgh about a month ago that had a
wide across the bridge. I'm like, oh my gosh, that
I wouldn't stand in that line just to get into
the game yet on for a souvenir or something. So
I think they go for those reasons more than the
actual entertainment itself.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
You know, it's kind of crazy.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
You know what. It's funny because as much as I
love sports, and I do tremendously. I love sports. I
live for it. I do not have one autograph of
a play. People would think that, well, you know, you
go to the games.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
You know these guys. I don't have one autograph. I
don't have one bubblehead. Why to me? I wasted time
for people? Either?

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Lose them, they misplaced them. And when you get an autograph,
the guy never looks at you. He has no idea
who you are.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
Funny story.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
When I was a kid, we had just moved to
Los Angeles and I was actually walking by myself. I
was I was just walking, and you know, I was
from the Bronx, New York. And all of a sudden,
we're staying in Brentwood, so it's a little different atmosphere there.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
And I wait, you went You went out from the
from the outhouse to the pit. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
So I see this guy walking, I go, son of
a gun is Kareem Abdul Jabbar.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
And I go, mister Jabbar, can I get your autograph?

Speaker 2 (49:18):
And I'm walking. It's just him and I and we're walking.
I go, can I get it? Because I'm not Kareem.
I go, oh, come on, Kareem, give me your autograph, please, please, please,
And I hand him a piece of paper to pen.
He takes it and he signs it and he gives
it back to me and he keeps walking and I
look at the piece of paper and he didn't sign
a Kareem Abdul Jabbar. And I look at it. I

(49:39):
go Julius Irving, who the hell are you?

Speaker 1 (49:42):
And I took and I just took the paper and
I threw it down. He was playing for the nets
of the ABA. Back then, I had no idea who
he was. I'm like, Julius.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Irving, who are you?

Speaker 4 (49:52):
Man?

Speaker 1 (49:52):
I don't even know who you are.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
You didn't know Julie. He didn't know doctor j That.
It was before he was really doctor. It was like
when he was the ABA. He wasn't famous back then,
you know what I mean. And I'm just like, I
was a punk kid. I'm like, ah, and I think
he was laughing. He's like, I don't even know who
you are. Come on, man, it's just kind of crazy.
I mean, I just I could see what athletes go through,
you know, and they're just eating dinner with their family

(50:16):
with friends, and people just go right up to win, barging.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
Oh see, I mean, just I got one more for you.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
I got one more then you like this when I
was doing when I was working in Phoenix, right And
I'm not going to tell you the guy's name yet,
but he this is before he became a big star
in the NFL. He was a rookie and a friend
of mine who was actually working at the radio station.
I was he was a former NFL player. He brings
this guy and he's watching the show and he's having
lunch and he introduces me to the guy and I'm like, oh, so,

(50:44):
tell me what you do and he goes, I actually
play in the NFL. And I'm like, oh, really, so
do I You know, I'm just busting this guy's Oh.
I'm just I'm like, really, this guy plays in the NFI.
Go what position do you play? Because quarterback?

Speaker 6 (50:57):
I go, so do I?

Speaker 1 (50:58):
How about that?

Speaker 3 (50:59):
I go, you look like a third street third string punter.
But whatever. I go, where did you play college? And
he tells me the college? I go, do they even
have football? How did how did you get to the NFL?
You know who this was that I'm busting his hump
was Brett Farv and I'm just I am just destroying him.
I go, hey, Brett, if this football thing doesn't work out,

(51:21):
come to us. We'll get your job as a sales guy.
We'll go play golf every day. And he looks at
my friend. He goes, is this guy serious?

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Is this guy? Something wrong with this guy?

Speaker 3 (51:30):
And many years later, obviously when he became Brett fav
Brett Favre.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
I was working for another network.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
He saw me.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
We went and had dinner together with a couple of
his his teammates at his steakhouse. So it was great.
I mean, he was We were just laughing about the
whole thing. He remembered it to this day. I mean,
I was andy. I was just busting his hump so bad.
But it was before he was really Brett Farv.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
He was just Brett, you know. I I was destroying him.
I was killing It was so funny, you know. Yeah,
it's crazy because I don't think the average Joe realizes
that these athletes they have the same problems that we have.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
You know, they got that marital problems, no.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
Money problems, problems, so I have drug problems. I mean,
whatever it may be. I mean, they're no different than
anybody else. And at times they just want to be
left alone. Really, I mean I understand that, but you know,
I think there are times that we kind of infringe
on them. I think they think that we do infringe
on them. And I remember back in the day when
they had games and the media would go into the

(52:31):
locker room was open doors. They opened the doors after
the cooling off period and you can go to anybody's
locker and just do the talk and whatever you gotta do.
You now they have the setup, you know, they put
them on a stage, and I just I don't go
for that as much as the open season d right right.
Did you see the Aaron Rodgers video that's going viral
from a couple of days ago. I don't know if

(52:53):
you saw this about.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
The little boy? Did you see that? I don't think
I did.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
There was a little boy, he must have been five
six years old, and he had one of those you
know those soft toy footballs, you know what I'm talking about. Yeah,
you know, like NERF or something.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
Yeah, it wasn't maybe Nerve, but it was one of
those soft ones, the ones that you could kind of
throw far.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
And his father was kind of egging him on.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
So the boy threw the toy football to Aaron Rodgers,
who was playing in the golf tournament, right, And Aaron
Rodgers picks up the ball and throws it into the
stands instead of throwing it back to the kid, and.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
The kid like breaks down and cries and all that.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
I'm like, really, it's not like he didn't know where
the football came from or something, you know what.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
I mean, he knew exactly.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
It was all being on film and being videoed, and
it kind of made its round. You don't have to
go look it up. If I find it, I'll send
it over to you. But I'm just like, what, you know,
what a nass for doing something like that? Just unbelievable. Well,
you knew that going in. I mean, you knew that
prior to him throwing the ball. I mean just the
way he acts. A wait, I know the father was
egging the little kid on, thinking that Aaron was going
to pick up the ball and just kind of throw

(53:59):
it back to the kid.

Speaker 6 (53:59):
You know.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Yeah, here's the same guy that says he wants to
have his life being private, but everybody is married. You know,
he got married like during the off season. I mean,
and then the whole thing that turned me off with him,
And maybe maybe I'm going I'm reaching too far here
with the vaccination thing with COVID, like he was an
anti guy. I mean, I don't know what you I know,
athletes have a big stage, and a lot of them

(54:22):
do a lot of good on that big stage with
charity operations and you know, good goodness and going to
homes and visiting people whoever it may be. But you know,
you use the stage for something good, you know, another thing,
you know, And I work with a couple of professional
sports teams in PR and a lot of these guys
other these even go to hospitals.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
But they always would.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Tell me, I don't want you call on the TVs
and I don't want to cameras. They don't want to
do it because I want to do it from the
good of my heart. But some of these guys do it,
but they want to be on TV to let everybody
know they're doing it. It's a little different there, I understand.
And you know, sometimes it's good to get the publicity
because it kind of brings attention into what you are
doing and maybe other people are going to help out.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
So I have no problem either way.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
You know, I understand you don't want to go and
get publicity and you just want to kind of be
left alone and do your own thing. But if you
want to get publicity and maybe bring attention to the cause,
I'm okay with that also, Andy to.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
I mean, if I do respect their wishes, if they
don't want a TV that I get that you know,
Sean Casey used to go to the hospitals all the
time forma Red Yeah for Red Greig. I never wanted
the TV's over there. Sean Casey had a heart of gold.
I love the guy, and just you know, there are
certain guys that do certain guys that don't. But you
know what, I honestly believe that an interview on TV
for like two minutes can change the mindset of a

(55:41):
fan watching that stay. You know, I thought the guy
was kind of like a real jerk, but I kind
of like him right now. I'll give you an example.
I watched this HBO special on Billy Joel. I never
really had a feeling one way or the other about
Billy Joel. You know, I heard his music, I didn't
realize what a guy.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
I love him.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
I love Billy Joel. Now I hope he comes to
Cincinnati because now I want to see him. He had
a concert coming here and he got sick and he canceled.
You got to see it the HBO T two I
have not seen. I know he married a girl from
my high school. His first I think his first wife
or second wife was from my high school, Christine Brinkle.
You remember her. Yes, she went to Palis High, so
he hooked up with her. Yeah, well I don't know

(56:21):
why I didn't hook up with her, but I you know,
I think she's only like a year or two older
than But there are certain things that the image of
an individual can change big time when you know, I
didn't know much about him. I mean, now I know
his life, and I think maybe that's why these guys
do it.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
And I love that.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
It was just a great, a great two part deal
really was. Yeah, there's some athletes out there you kind
of think, like like Brett farm you know, you probably
thought that he was a jerk, right, Oh, it couldn't
have been nicer, but you're not not nicer. Down to
earth is what it really was. He's just so down
to earth and you wouldn't know that he was a
big superstar or anything like that with the way he

(56:57):
treated people.

Speaker 7 (56:58):
Right.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
And there's some guys that you know, go to a
locker room talk to, they won't talk to anybody, you
know why. I mean, there's that prerogative, but you just say,
come on, really, I mean you can't tell you can't
even give me two minutes of your time.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
That's just Oh, I'll tell you another story.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
And I know we're short on time, but remember when
you know the great Chick hearn right, Yeah, they played
by played voice of the La Lakers when Chick passed away.
I was doing local radio in Los Angeles, and I
thought it'd be great if we, you know, got on
the four most popular Laker fans. So I called people
may not remember Diane Cannon, the old actress. I called
Denzel Washington, we called Chevy Chase, and we called Jack Nicholson.

(57:40):
Diane Cannon called back in twenty minutes, in tears. She
couldn't have been better. She was great. I mean she
actually was on the on the air with us for
like an hour. She's, oh, she's such a diehard Laker fan,
it's not even funny. Denzel Washington calls me and can't
apologize enough for not getting back to me. I said,
that's out. It's only been like two hours ago. I

(58:03):
didn't even know who you would call back. He's like,
I want to come on.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
I want to come on.

Speaker 3 (58:07):
I get off the air that day and the phone
lines ring and I happened to just pick it up
and it was Jack Nicholson and Jack goes, I want
to come on right now, I said, Jack, were the
show's over?

Speaker 1 (58:17):
He goes, No, no, no, you're on. You're on till seven.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
I go, well, thank you for keeping my schedule, Jack,
but the Dodgers are playing now.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
I go, how about tomorrow at three o'clock?

Speaker 2 (58:26):
Give me your phone number, Give me your phone number,
and we'll push it, we'll advertise it.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
He goes, I can't give you my number, I said, Jack.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
If you don't give me your number, I can't tell
everybody you're coming on.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
He goes.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
If I tell you I'm calling you at three o'clock
and I give you my word, I'm calling at three
o'clock and it's two fifty nine, there was the phone
the next day and it was Jack.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
So I mean, these guys, they're accessible, they're good. Chevy
Chase is the only one that gave me a hard time.
I know you probably didn't want to hear that, but
he said, look Pard, he said, lose my number on Arnie,
I said, Jack, I said, Chevy, I would never call
you and bother you on vacation if it wasn't about chick.
Curty goes, what part of who's my number? Did you
not understand? I go well consider it lost Jevy and

(59:12):
that was pretty much it. But everybody else was great.
They were They were just unbelievable, especially Jack.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
He he came on.

Speaker 3 (59:18):
He was great, He answered everything. He was there as
long as I wanted him. He was fantastic.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
That's great.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
You know what, I'm not surprised that Denzel called. You know,
Denzel played freshman basketball at Fort Ham. His son plays football,
played football in college. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I didn't know
he played. He played at Ford him. I didn't know that,
Yeah he should did. I mean, wow, the freshman team unbelievable.
And uh, PJ Carlissimo, his dad was the athletic the Forham.
PJ coach in the NBA. Yeah yeah, PPC Yeah, PJ

(59:49):
was was a teammate of his on the team. Get
on here.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Yeah great?

Speaker 2 (59:53):
Is that? That's fun?

Speaker 1 (59:54):
These are great stories.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
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Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
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You just search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube and you'll
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YouTube and Artie Spanier. But when does football start for you?
When does the NFL start for you?

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
I believe it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
When they came into practice Tuesday. Is it the Hall
of Fame game? Is it Week one of the preseason
or is it Week one of the NFL regular season?

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
When does football started the regular season? It brought that up,
but I'll tell you why. Because the media people here
they go but manage to go ballistic Cincinnati. First of all,
let's start Thursday. There is no NFL in Vermont. There's
no NFL in Vermont there you live, really and truly,
I mean I know I lived in New Hampshire.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
There's nothing there.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Listen to this time. I'll give it. I don't know
if this is still true, but out of all the
high school football here, there's never been a kid who
go from high school football to D one football in college.
And I'm surprised, but I will tell you this. I'm
just taking this cast off the top of my head.
There's probably more ivy leaguers from the state of Vermont
than any other state in the Union. Right, because they're
smart kids. They don't play sports, they study all the time.

(01:02:03):
He's play more libraries than from out any place else
in the world. Right. I don't talk about that. I
have no idea about that. Andy. If someone has told
me that you have a tweet you want to share, Yeah,
it just just to finish up what we're talking about athletes. Yes,
today this came in. It came into steaking genius says.
Kobe went to children's hospitals almost every week for years.

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My niece was a nurse there.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
She said he was the nicest guy and never put
it out in public. He did it just for those kids.
So I wanted to get that out there because Kobe
was a great guy. He really was, and and I
totally believe that. And you know, it's good to see
there are, like you said, there are a lot of
athletes that do that, but just don't.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
Call attention to themselves. You know they don't.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
Can I can I tell you one of the reasons
why I love you?

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
Can I tell you? Can I want to tell me
I want to make you a face turn red. I'm
going to embarrass you because you and I are like,
who's whose gloves? Talking sports? Like at a ball really
because I turn on Sports Rating and I love it.
I have the ready one a lot, you know, be
the Fox or anybody else. And most of the shows
are predictions. This team's gonna finish seven, and you don't know,

(01:03:12):
your coaches don't know. I don't want to hear that stuff.
I'd like to talk you know why you're so good
because you've been there, done that, You've got experience.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
I like predictions too.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
Everybody doesn't like.

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
I was gonna say a least give you my Kobe story, right,
theyb me go ahead and do this since we brought
up you'll you'll like this one. When I was doing
local radio in Los Angeles, right, we were out at
Staples and back in the day where the Starbucks is
it was, it was empty storefront and we were doing
the show from behind the glass inside there, and Andy

(01:03:44):
I noticed when we went to commercial break, we weren't
airing the commercials over the loud speaker because everybody was
going in the Staples can hear the show.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
We weren't airing the commercials, but.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
I could get on the mic and talk to the
people that were going coming into the game, and I
was screwing around.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
And I just picked up the mic and I.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Go, welcome to playoff game, you know, Game one, Lakers
in Portland. And I was screwing around and I go
list it out for today's game. Kobe Bryant broken leg.
And you would have thought, Andy, you would have.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
Thought I was doing one hundred dollars bills outside the
frenzy I started. My boss called me up and I
can't repeat what he said to me, Andy, I can't.
He just in so many words, it was just stop
but not like that.

Speaker 6 (01:04:37):
Why am I not surprised?

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
Oh it was. He laid it on me, like, what
are you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
I'm like, just having a little fun.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
And the funny part is a couple of months later
after the season and we're getting ready for the next season.
I was at the Laker practice. I wasn't paying attention.
I'm looking down. I noticed some guys like standing next
to me, and he's in closer and closer, and I
look up and it's Kobe and he looks at me
and goes, broken leg. You couldn't even give me a
hamstring so I could play? And he laughs and he

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just walks away.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
So yeah, no, he was.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
He was a good guy.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
It was a lot of but I got a lot
of trouble for that, and they got the Lakers. Lakers
were not happy with me at that point. I promise
you that geez silly, silly about that, Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
I want to talk about something what's going on, like
an issue rather than predictions and what team's gonna win.
I mean, I'm tired of that. People don't know, they
really don't know that. It's laziness when people do that
in sports talk radio. But this is a fact, and
this is kind of an issue here. Uh. And the
issue is with the Cincinnati Bengals. They signed two receivers

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in the off season, you know, t Higgins and jamar Chi.
But that's what you wanted, that's what you wanted, that's
what the fans wanted. So way the hell is Trey Hendrickson.
Here's a guy that led the NFL in sacks. They
won't sign him. And all I'm hearing right now with
the Bengals are cheap. You know that, it's the furthest
from the truth. When you're spending almost one hundred and
fifty million dollars on these two receivers.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
You can't call a team cheap.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
But the point is this, but Joe Burrow the quarterback,
went public big time for a long time. One thing
the Bengals to sign both those receivers for Kenny gottof Hey, guys,
where is he now?

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
For Trey Hendrickson Noye And he's not doing that for track.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
Well, you can't do it for everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
I mean you have to do You have to do
it for your receivers because it's those are your guys, Andy,
those are the guys you're throwing it to.

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
Henderson deserves the money.

Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
Unfortunately, you're right, they gave it to the two receivers
who are more important. At this point, they'll give him
the money. He didn't have to sign that third year.
The third year is when's holding him up here? He
could have been a free agent. I don't like to
see what Cincinnati's doing because he's certainly worth it. I'm
curious to see if this is not going to work out.
I still think he'll get his contract and it will

(01:06:52):
work out. But maybe part of me figures keep an
eye on this because is he going to be traded?
Is it gonna work out? Is he gonna hold out?

Speaker 6 (01:06:59):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
This is gonna be one of those things that you
know both sides are going to dig their heels in
and and you know think that they're right. I get
part of the feeling that that might happen. It shouldn't
because the Bengals are all geared up for a pretty
big year.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
So I am a lot of heat.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
But I got a lot of heat when I said that,
Wait a minute, Trey Hendrickson is on contract. He signed
the contract. People were crazy. I mean, well, he deserves me.
I still believe, and maybe I'm off based Tell me
if I am. When you sign a contract in the
NFL and he's looking for money right now, you're getting
paid on what the team thinks you're capable of what

(01:07:36):
you're going to do, you're not getting paid of what
you've done right let the league and he signed, he
signed his content, he's tract.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
I'll come when I.

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
Pay one hundred dollars to get your autograph at a
baseball card signing or a football signing. But now your
signature is not good but good enough when it comes
to a contract.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
I agree with you. When you put your name on
a contract, you should live up to it or that contract.
But that's not in yourself that you're gonna do better
and I'll pay you more than you got a bigger
contract only years of age. And it happens to us also,
you know, even though we're not athletes. I was my
term was coming up. I had like six seven months

(01:08:15):
left on a contract at a radio network, and another
station had called and offered me an unbelievable job.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
And I went to my boss. I said, I'm just
going to leave.

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
I'm just going to go.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
He goes, well, you can't leave. You have six months
left on a contract.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
I said, either you're going to give me a new
contract now to stay here, or you're going to let
me go.

Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
And he goes, We're not going to do neither. I go,
that's not the American way. The American way is, if
you want me to stay, you give me a new contract.
There's only six months left. If you don't want me
to stay because you don't like me, then you let
me go. And it was to this day, and I'm
over sixty. This was about like thirty years ago. It
still bothers me to this day. Andy, they didn't let

(01:08:56):
me go, and we fought about a new contract. I
was really really upset. To this day, it still bothers me.
I I'll never I do take it personally that they
did this to me. And I can see how people
in sports hold it over these guys heads over their
contract negotiations.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
It's very different.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
Okay, the difference you had as opposed to athletes that
athletes have representation. You probably have an attorney or an
agent doing that, which was just harder, makes it a
lot harder, a lot. You're one hundred percent right on that.
But I didn't like the way I was being treated.
I go, if you don't want me to stay, let
me go. If you want me to stay, give me
a new contract. They didn't want to do either. They

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knew I had them over a barrel. So it was
it was very ugly there for a while, right. But
in the situation here with the National Football League, I mean,
Trey Hendrickson knew that he has a contract, and there
was here when I hear and read that he says
he's going to sit out. Yeah, but what happens is
I bet my life, my life now, my life savings
because I don't have much, but I would bet my

(01:09:57):
life that he's not going to sit out. He's made
sixteen million year, which I think is a pretty healthy salary.
I mean, you're not sitting out. Well, most stupid thing
I've heard of two things, Why is he not in
camp anyway?

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
And pretending like he has an injury like everybody else
so he doesn't get fined fifty dollars a day.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
That's what Jim Chase did.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
Yeah, that's what everybody does. Now, everybody does that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
I mean, and two who did to say that he
doesn't want to move up to that last year of
the contract. He just wants an extension to start after
that last year. So that's that's still fine. He's living
up to the last year of the contract. But you're
just adding an extension. That's what I would do.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
Well, he's thirty one years of age. He wants three
years I think thirty four at that position defensive end.
Although you know, to his credit, he's been fairly healthy
the last several years and he's led to lead the
last two years in sacks. But I think that I'm
I'm a Mike Brown's corner, the owner of the Bengals.
I give the guy an additional year with an option
give him one more year. With an option.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
We'll see what he does.

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
So, I mean, so if it's that bad and you
only have one more year of if you feel like
that's oh he's really worth than trade him because there's
a good market for him right now. Do you think
then let him know you think there's a big mark
of for a thirty one year old defensive end.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
I mean yeah, I think I think you can get
a pretty good pick, maybe like a second round pick,
third round pick.

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
What do you think is that too much or what?

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
I don't know what the what he's worth out there.
I mean I think I give.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
Him a second round pick for him right now, that's
for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
I think the fact that he played on a team
that didn't make the playoffs, even though his stats were
very impressive, does not help his cause.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
That doesn't make a difference. That doesn't make a difference.
I will tell you this much.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
If they sign him or don't sign him, they're still
gonna have a hard time making the playoffs because the
defense stinks and one man cannot make it done.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
One man cannot get it done. So that last year
didn't get it done.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
Completely disagree with you on that, because that division, well,
that division is dog do.

Speaker 3 (01:11:50):
Cleveland's not going to do anything, so you could forget
about that. They're they're they're not going to be making
any run at any playoffs in Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh. Come on,
you know that Aaron Roddy, that streak of over five
hundreds probably gonna come to an end. It's all Cincinnati
and Baltimore. It's Baltimore. Baltimore's already won that division. I
already told this with Chris Plink. I argue with him.

(01:12:11):
Six of the eight divisions have already been decided, Andy,
So I'm I hope you're not disappointed. There's not gonna
be some great races. Six of the eight divisions already
been quinched. The only ones that haven't been quinched are
the NFC South and the NFC West.

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
All the other.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
Divisions are pretty much done Andy. Sorry to tell you
that it dependent upon injuries. Of course, of course injuries
is gonna be a factor. But we already know that
Buffalo get Baltimore. But I think that Pittsburgh can make
a run for our take. No, they're not, No, know
what You're wrong, I'm not. I think Aaron Rodgers is
going to supply some people number one and number two.
I think Mike Tomlin's a big factor. I really believe that.

(01:12:45):
I think that if it comes down hit the head
with Baltimore and Cincinnati, I've taken I mean, both of
Cincinnati and Pittsburgh. I go for Pittsburgh. I'll tell you why.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
I just like Mike.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
Tomlin over Zach Taylor. As far as a game manager,
I really do. As of my Timlin been there for
like one hundred years. Now, what has he done? I mean,
my goodness, the analytic season, I think it's been. They
lost their last four games of last year, so we'll see.
Think it turned that around. But what he has done
really since Ben Roethlisberger has left is really tremendous because

(01:13:15):
they didn't have a quarterback.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
Can he pick it?

Speaker 6 (01:13:16):
Come on?

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
Really, all those super bowls they want after that, huh,
it's tough. I mean, you know you want to count
super bowls? You know it's tough. I mean, I agree
with you. I think that right now the NFL is
probably stacked to such a degree, to such a degree
that you know who's going to be winning.

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
And we'll see.

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
I mean, I think there are a couple of good races,
maybe in the West, maybe a decent race, maybe the
NFL NFC West. I like that stat where they say
nineteen times in the last twenty two years a division's
had a team that's gone from worst to first, which
is unbelievable. I mean nineteen times in twenty two years.
That's crazy to go from last place to first.

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
And that's what they like.

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
Oh right, well I was, but I think it's great. Yeah,
and that's what I have to raft obviously to do that.
But in the Cincinnati situation, I just I thought that
Joe Burrow will be a little more vocal to get
another player in there, you know, And how many guys
can you be vocal for? You got what you wanted
in the two wide receivers, you can't be vocal every time.
I mean, I think that if I'm Trey Hendrickson right now,

(01:14:18):
I don't go to Joe Burrow and say it personally,
but I think he's mulling this in his mind, like
I can't believe it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
Joe went public, you know, for his two receivers. I mean,
what about me? Do you think Joe went private to him?

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
Joe went up to him and said, look, I know
I can't say thing publicly, but I'll try to talk
to the owner when I can. I think he's disappointed.
There's no doubt in my mind. I think that Joe
Burrow right now would have already loved to have seen
Trey Hendrickson signed right. You know, And I asked this
to Bucky Brooks last week about you know, do other
players really give a damn if a guy is having

(01:14:50):
a contractual problem. No, he's everybody's an individual contractor on
a football team, and everybody has to do their own
business and whatever it may be.

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
So the term distract action, in my mind, is like
a falsehood.

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
It's so different than like any of our other talk
show hosts that their contracts may come up.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
We don't know when they're upper. We don't really care
to be honest with you exactly. You know what, You've
been to many radio stations in your career. I haven't
been to a lot, but I've worked at some and
everybody's like a buddy, buddy, you want to make a
family situation.

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
But when someone gets fired, life goes on. Ye, life
goes on.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
If you would say that somebody, you would think that
everybody walk out the door and say I'm supporting this guy.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
I know it doesn't work that way. No, it just doesn't,
you know, they doesn't, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
Arnie Spanning the man and for Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy
Ferman and by the way, you can go in two
directions here yay, one ay and you know what and
it's next? Are YEA and A coming right up his?
Arnie span you, Arnie span youing for Bucket Brooks about
twelve minutes before the top of the hour. I'm Andy
Ferman and we're live for the Fox Bets Radio Studios.
And a little dumpster?

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
Are you ready? Are you ready for yea, your and
A Are you ready? Okay, let's figure brack those brains, gentlemen.

Speaker 7 (01:15:59):
These stories need it is.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
I think we need a ruling on this yay day.

Speaker 6 (01:16:05):
Let me correct you with that one there and du
for you a little dumper not dump um little dumpster.
Oh yeah, you would like dumpster better, mister, you would. Well,
it's time to go with yay or nay. Well I'm
nay with dumpster, I'm yay with dumper.

Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
So whatever.

Speaker 6 (01:16:25):
Well, let's go with the first one. I got a
cool I got one for you guys. So with Nvil
training camps and you know, I predicated it last hour
with the whole you know, underwhelming on offense or you know,
having a better defense. I think yeay or nay on this, guys,
is a yay or nay that people take too much
weight of your team's really looking really really good in

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training camp or looking really really bad.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
Yay or nay.

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
Andy Furman, I say, yay. People make too big of
a deal.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
I mean, the first day of training came home, My goodness,
it's it's you was feeling the super Bowl was here.
Take it easy, take a step back. One day does
not make a season. I mean the other day they
had one. Aaron Rodgers threw a couple of interceptions when
he first came to practice the first day, So what
who cares the first day of practice? Let it go jesus.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
Yeah, I'm gonna say yay. I'm not also, but I
loved it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
Though.

Speaker 3 (01:17:19):
I eat that off when Rogers do this first pass
was an interception, I'm like, oh, yeah, we go out.
Of course, everybody jumped on and it means it's meaningless
in the overall scheme of things.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
But I do love the the info. I do love
everybody piling up on him.

Speaker 3 (01:17:37):
I mean, look what they're saying about Kayleb Williams and
the six interceptions just did practice alone. I don't even
know if that's a lot of interceptions if you're throwing
like a thousand passes in practice. But people are talking
about it like they've started zero six or something. Yeah,
we take too much about it. Yay, I'll say that,
but I love it. I eat that stuff up.

Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
Why don't they turn it around making a positive say, hey,
look how great the defense was six ironts. Yes, seriously,
because that wouldn't be as big of a story as
Caleb Williams sticking up the place.

Speaker 6 (01:18:05):
You know, Okay, all right, we're gonna go from the
NFL to the w NBA. So has the absence of
Kaitlyn Clark proved her worth to the w NBA.

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
Yay, r nay Arnies.

Speaker 2 (01:18:17):
Fan, yay.

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
Absolutely. First of all, they talked about the All Star Game.
The All Star Game from two years ago was just
down significantly, but she wasn't there too. I think from
last year also, well, she played last year, so it
had good numbers.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
But when she's not in it, it just goes down.
Everybody wants to see Caitlin Clark all this hatred on
Caitlin Clark. I just haven't figured out. I just don't
understand why the WNBA and some of the players don't
embrace her. You want to guard her, you want to
get in her face, you want to win, you want
to be competitive. I'm all okay with that, but the

(01:18:53):
hatred just for her, it is just absolutely crazy. And yeah,
now that she's out, it kind of it's the you know,
w NBA and the back burner when she's playing, we
want to watch what she's doing. So I totally agree
with you on that one. The one step further, I
think they should change the name from the w n
b A to the c NBA, the Caitlyn NBA. But

(01:19:15):
she is the league. Caitlyn is the league. That's why
people go. And if you don't understand that there's something
wrong between your ears, oh, I agree with you. She is.
She is the uh franchise. I want to see how
this whole money thing plays out. You know, they're like,
we deserve more money. In the T shirts and all that.

Speaker 3 (01:19:34):
They're full of Bolodie when they said, oh, we just
talked about it this morning, they're totally lying to us
because they had talked about it the week earlier. I'm
curious to see if you know how much you're going
to get and how it works out when it's uh,
when it's.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
All like none of those T shirts and worth at
the Fox Sports.

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
Radio, maybe what I'm worth.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 6 (01:19:55):
Speaking of someone who was considered the franchise of their
spory so old Cogan brother to be remembered as the
man who took wrestling and made it to worldwide entertainment.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
Yay or nay?

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
Andy Furman, Yes, of course they will rolling on the
ace Tom.

Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
You know, he's the man.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
He took wrestling, which obviously has scripted sport if you
want to call it a sport to the next level,
made it from a backyard situation to an international entertainment venue.
That's what he did. Yeah, no, yay on that also,
I mean what he has accomplished.

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
So much more.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
Remember now, he also did make a wish, He was
very contributed, you know, a lot of contribution to charities,
love meeting kids, did all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:20:41):
But yeah, he took wrestling and he didn't put it
on the map. He just took it to this next level.
I mean we knew I knew other wrestlers, even though
I didn't get into the whole wrestling thing, but.

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
I you know, the iron cheek and stuff like that.
But I mean, nobody had the persona of Hulk Hogan. Andy,
he was just bigger than life.

Speaker 6 (01:21:02):
Our final one, guys, Courtney Williams of the Minnesota Links
in the WMA with her unlicensed moolaw sneakers. The WNBA
said her logos should be concealed. Yeah your nay, final yay?

Speaker 2 (01:21:14):
Paul, Let a wait the logos, jes ol Pate, what
the heck? Let it go? Care right?

Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
Look who's looking at the feet?

Speaker 2 (01:21:22):
Anyway? Here we go, all right, stay with us one
more big hour ago a fox being didn't like what
he saw the other day. That's coming right up. Good morning,
this morning, Good morning, Good morning, Artie Spanier, my brother
from another mother for Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy fermana brotesting

(01:21:44):
live on the Fox Bus radio studios. And really and
truly I got a couple of questions for you.

Speaker 3 (01:21:49):
By the way, I watch you know, my son's fiance
goes to Xavier Graduate School out in your neck of
the woods.

Speaker 2 (01:21:54):
Right, you're not far from there.

Speaker 1 (01:21:55):
Cincinnati, No, it's right near me. Really right across the bridge.
I keep telling you studied harder, you'd go to a
better school like Arizona.

Speaker 2 (01:22:02):
But you know whatever, what is your love affair with Arizona?

Speaker 1 (01:22:06):
That's where I went to school.

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
That's whe I well, I mean, I'm not a big
love affair of the school I went.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
I went there and let it go. Where did you
go to school? Where did you go?

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
I went to undergraduated hunt to college and a graduate
school at Columbia Universe. Well, there you go. That's why
you don't like to tell anybody.

Speaker 1 (01:22:20):
Wait a minute, you went to Columbia like Rob Parker. Yeah,
I did. I wasn't there with him, but we were
there together.

Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
Wow, that's kind of impressive.

Speaker 1 (01:22:28):
I'm embarrassed. What's happening over there too? But that's let's
not get into that end.

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
I know really, but I mean you're like, you walk
around with like a bad Do you like work as
a recruiter for Arizona? Yeah? Believe that is my job?

Speaker 1 (01:22:41):
Okay, I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:44):
Okay. Now the question I have for you, being from
the great state of Vermont, have you ever met ben
O Jerry with the ice cream?

Speaker 7 (01:22:53):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:22:53):
Absolutely? I mean really, Oh my good, just tell me
one of them gets arrested like once every.

Speaker 1 (01:22:58):
Couple of months.

Speaker 3 (01:22:59):
You know that, right, He's always protesting something. Yeah, yeah,
so they're they're dragging him away. You want to know
what's really funny?

Speaker 1 (01:23:07):
Who I've.

Speaker 3 (01:23:09):
Running to several times, took a picture with him. I'm
really not a big fan, but he's you know, I
saw him in a car event one time.

Speaker 2 (01:23:18):
It was pouring rain and I was pulling up to
the stop side or to the red light, and I
thought it was a homeless person asking for money, and
I looked up and it was Bernie Sanders. It was.

Speaker 3 (01:23:31):
You know, he's out there trying to get elected. You know,
he's out there with the signs and everything. But I
see him all over the place. When he used to
be here in town, now he's hardly in town at all.

Speaker 2 (01:23:41):
You know what I mean. Well, the population estates only
about thirty seven people, so I mean, youre gonna run
up the people every single day. Really, I mean you
could probably go if you could travel the entire state
in two hours, that bet really about three yeah, two
to three hours. You can get up there. We're not
that far from like Montreal. We're well less than an
hour from the Canadian border. So sorry, you can just

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Speaker 1 (01:24:04):
You're gonna miss it. I'm telling you you're gonna miss it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:06):
When I go down the Connecticut, I'll just pay more
taxes than anything.

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Speaker 1 (01:24:55):
Theway tire buying should be. And I'll tell you this.
You go to a lot of games, Andy, do you
go to.

Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
I do that a lot. I'd say more basketball and baseball,
but this week I'm kinding excited with the Dodgers are
coming to town.

Speaker 1 (01:25:08):
Do you have anything memorable?

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
And he gained that sticks out that you've been to
that that was like iconic. It might it'll come to
me eventually my dad. Of course, I'm in New Yorker.
My dad used to go to a lot of Ranger games.
We moved out to Los Angeles and he never went
to any King's game, and finally he went to one
King's game.

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
He took my brother, they went to one game. Andy,
I'm talking.

Speaker 2 (01:25:31):
About all these years, twenty thirty forty years of being
in LA he went to one King's game.

Speaker 1 (01:25:36):
That one King's game. And I don't know if you
know this, but you are a hockey fan.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
It was the.

Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
Miracle on Manchester.

Speaker 3 (01:25:41):
When the Kings were down five nothing to Edmonton scored
five goals in the third, the last one tying it
up with about two or three seconds left, and then
the King's winning and overtime. It was like one of
the most iconic King's game ever and my dad was
the only game my dad went to was the Miracle
on Manchester.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
Unbelievable it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:26:01):
Yeah, And I kind of feel for you because's living
in for a mont You have nothing. I mean no,
I mean, I look, I hate they're always funny, but
we have nothing. What do you go for a pro game?
You gotta, you gotta, you gotta pack a bag and
spend two days traveling to get to Boston. Right.

Speaker 3 (01:26:15):
One, we won the soccer Division one championship last year,
so I didn't want to throw that out there. That
was a that was a pretty big thing out there.
And two, who cares? Yeah, okay, who cares? We can
go to the Yankees game. Right, We can go to
the Red Sox. You can go see the Bills, you
can go see the Jets, you can see the Giants.
But starting maybe in a couple of years, Andy, and

(01:26:36):
you might know better than I do.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
Am I gonna be or people gonna be able to
drive to Montreal and go see the exposed? Because I
thought there was talk about Tampa going to take the
shot and go up to Montreal. You know what I mean,
that was a very historic franchise up there in Montreal.
They may very well have a franchise, but you won't
be able to cross the border anyway because there's so
many restrictions, so it's the big deal.

Speaker 1 (01:26:58):
You're not gonna go. I mean, figure, I.

Speaker 2 (01:27:01):
Mean, you know what, somebody that was in historic franchise,
The A's used to be in the storic franchise back
in your day, and look at them. The way back
of my when I lived in New Hampshire, I went
to a couple of Red Sox cats. So I wanted
to see Fenway Park. I know exactly. It was eighty
three miles from Laconia, New Hampshire to Fenway Park. I
went three times that summer and that was the end

(01:27:21):
of it. Because it's a whole I don't want to
have to spend half a day traveling to go to
a baseball.

Speaker 1 (01:27:27):
That's not that far in GESU. Make it like it's across.

Speaker 2 (01:27:30):
The in New Hampshires. No cause on the road. You
can put that out there and never got hit, buy
a car and sleep there and it's great.

Speaker 1 (01:27:37):
No, it's it's it's nice up here.

Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
Look, I'm still going to be in the New England area,
so it's not like I'm moving away completely.

Speaker 1 (01:27:45):
Oh good, glad to hear that. But there's no sports there.
That's the problem.

Speaker 3 (01:27:50):
It is you'll have to, like I said, you'll have
to go ahead and you know, make the track down
if you want to see some NBA or some Major
League Baseball.

Speaker 1 (01:27:58):
Or some NFL.

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
But let's talk about the city that has sports, and
let's talk about Chicago. There's talk about the Chicago Bears.
I know you're gonna say why, but I want to
talk about them because something happened this week that was
very interesting. Now, I said, Colin.

Speaker 3 (01:28:11):
Jumping on them to start his showing the last couple
of days on Thursday and Friday, kind of going after
Caleb Williams.

Speaker 1 (01:28:16):
I'm like, WHOA, what's going on here? What's happening?

Speaker 2 (01:28:18):
You know? Well, the new head coach, Ben Johnson on
Friday threw the team off practice field. He just threw
at it, go leave. And I think that maybe it's
a tactic. Maybe I don't know if he was really
every coach does that. I think, yeah, I think he
probably needs to do that to what they say is
maybe change this so called culture another world, which I'm
not too keen on, but I think they want to

(01:28:39):
change the attitude. And one of the attitudes there is
Cayleb Williams. You're right, one of the top quarterbacks in
the twenty four class. Right, and he wrote in his
book that Chicago is the place for quarterbacks to die. Right.
Last year this team won five games, and I know
the last time that had a normal quarterback maybe maybe
Jake Cutler, maybe Jim McMahon, maybe goes well, he was.

Speaker 3 (01:29:00):
I mean, they had an awesome team. Let's not take
that away. I don't know how great of a quarterback
band was, but he certainly was a good one. They
just had such a great team and made him look
even better.

Speaker 1 (01:29:10):
Okay, you got a guy like Caleb Williams.

Speaker 2 (01:29:13):
And here's a guy I went when he watched him
play for USC after a loss, he was in the
stands with his parents crying. Right, And the first the
bothers you is that's still bothering you. The first thing
I said, I and I talked to Bucky about this
and he agreed. I said, a quarterback has to have
a great skill set, but more than that, he's got
to be a leader. I don't want my leader crying,
at least not in public. I don't want that guy crying.

(01:29:34):
And they talk about these interviews all the time on
you know that they have these player interviews, the background interviews,
the background checks. That's one of the first things I'd say,
you got to control your emotions. They say, if you
go ahead and leave the field and you're and you're
not emotional about a loss, then you're okay with losing.
And a lot of people are not okay with losing.

Speaker 1 (01:29:55):
I'd rather have them be emotional.

Speaker 2 (01:29:58):
I hate when people players came them off and they're
giving the other team a hug and laughing. And I'm
with you though, I'll see hey, I'll see you in
the off season. Remember now, we're gonna hang out, we're
gonna go on vacation. And meanwhile, you just lost the
game in overtime on the last second field goal. And
it's not bothering you that that that would destroy me
right And the bugs we also like we go to

(01:30:18):
a baseball game, they're all hanging around the banning cage
and kind of smoochy.

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
We Hey, my mum's around you. I love you.

Speaker 2 (01:30:24):
No, it's a war, it's a battle. I don't care
what you think it's about. I want to beat you.
I want to beat your pants off. I'm playing against you.
It's a game and means money. If you take the
money out of my pocket. You want to socialize you
after the game, we'll have dinner. I don't talk to
me now, ma. I'm set people one.

Speaker 3 (01:30:40):
Friendly back, especially back in the NBA. You know, like
when Magic and Isaiah would go against each other. Look
at all the pettiness what they did.

Speaker 2 (01:30:48):
Be Yeah, but keep you off the Olympic team and
you know, saying stuff, find each other's backs and just
hating each other. That's that's what it was about back then.
Now they just love each other all over crazy. Yeah,
And it's just Caleb Williams. I just I think that
the fact that he doesn't have that leadership mentality. If
you're a member of the bulk of the ball club

(01:31:09):
with the Chicago Bears and you read and heard and
heard about what he said about the Chicago franchise place
for quarterbacks to die, you.

Speaker 1 (01:31:17):
Want this guy to be your quarterback?

Speaker 2 (01:31:19):
No, but you don't have a choice.

Speaker 1 (01:31:20):
It isn't like you could trade him or get rid
of him or cut him.

Speaker 3 (01:31:23):
You just have to chuck it up to an experience
that he's just a young kid and you're gonna move
on now. If he was, if he was really like
six years in or seven years in and he wasn't
getting done. Maybe they would turn the tides, maybe they
would just start going against him and jumping down his throat.

Speaker 1 (01:31:37):
But they're not gonna The fans aren't going to say
anything to him now. You know, well, he's got some
goals this year.

Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
He wants to be a four thousand yard passed, will
be the first Chicago be a quarterback in history to
pass for four He should have two goals. I should say,
your goals are win winning playoffs. That's when when the
win your first game of the year and then try
to win every game of the year, and that's that's
your two goals.

Speaker 1 (01:31:58):
Okay, I don't want to hear about this and four thousand.

Speaker 2 (01:32:01):
Yards and so many touchdowns.

Speaker 3 (01:32:03):
Just worry about winning games, you know what I mean,
Win games and get yourself in a playoff situation.

Speaker 2 (01:32:09):
I think that athletes should have a course, and maybe
it's maybe it's best that they don't because it gives
you and I, guys that do this business a little
more fodder to talk about. I don't want to hear
a player where they say, what are your goals this year?
And they're all individual goals, you know, even if they
are in your heart of hearts. Don't tell me that
because you're a team. It's a team game. Don't tell
me about four thousand yards. Don't tell me about seventy

(01:32:31):
percent completion rate, thirty five touch now, no, no, we know.
My goal is to win double digit games, has to
go to the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:32:38):
That's my goal.

Speaker 3 (01:32:39):
Win your first game and go to the playoffs, win
a super Bowl. That should be your goal.

Speaker 6 (01:32:45):
That is it.

Speaker 1 (01:32:45):
I don't want to.

Speaker 3 (01:32:46):
Hear like you said, four thousand yards or so many
catches in a touchdown and and you know, throw me
the ball more who was good? Pointing that he wasn't
even having enough targets. I'm like, get out of here.
You have like over one hundred targets. It's it's getting
too much. It's all about the me me me mentality.
It's no longer about the team.

Speaker 2 (01:33:05):
It seems like no.

Speaker 1 (01:33:06):
Doubt about that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
And you know what I mean. Speaking of that, let's
talk about your team, your favorite team. At first, I
have no idea how a guy from Vermont is in
love with the Miami Dolphins. I wasn't born in Vermont
and the Dolphins. You need to get some professional help,
you really do I do the Dolphins.

Speaker 7 (01:33:22):
It might not be that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:23):
You know, usually I'm very optimistic coming into the year
about the Dolphins, especially because the Jets in New England
don't scare me. But now it's like kind of.

Speaker 3 (01:33:31):
Like a perfect storm. The Bills are still gonna be good.
The Jets have gotten better.

Speaker 2 (01:33:36):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:33:36):
The Patriots are now the overwhelming favorite for second place
over the Dolphins, even though they both have win totals
of I believe eight and a half. Still the Vegas
odds are saying the Patriots are going to be in second.
The Dolphins could finish in last. I hate that they
lost John new Smith or that they traded him. I mean,
that's a guy with like ninety catches. That's gonna hurt too.

Speaker 1 (01:33:58):
Look.

Speaker 3 (01:33:58):
I and the fact that he still hasn't gotten on
the same page with Tyreek Hill.

Speaker 2 (01:34:04):
What is going on there?

Speaker 3 (01:34:05):
Are they just not friendly anymore? Is there a separation here?
I'm not quite understanding why there's some animosity just because
Tyreek Hill was talking about leaving the Dolphins last year,
so I think Tua took that personally, and there seems
to be a disconnect there.

Speaker 1 (01:34:22):
I'm not feeling the Dolphins.

Speaker 3 (01:34:23):
I think they'll be better defensively, but I'm a little
worried because the divisions are a lot better than it
was last year.

Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
Well, i'll tell you this, you guy, Mike McDaniel, I
think he's definitely not the hot seat, the warm seat.

Speaker 3 (01:34:36):
Well that's why I thought Nick Saban was going to
take over for him. Oh come on, Well, and you're
probably right, but I think I agree with you on McDaniel.
I used to call I call this guy the chemistry tutor.
He looks like a chemistry tutor that's just standing on
the sideline and he doesn't have the answer.

Speaker 2 (01:34:54):
You know, there's been about two or three stories now
that have come out anti McDaniel from players.

Speaker 1 (01:35:02):
I'm thinking that this guy was this guy's got to
have it done this year.

Speaker 3 (01:35:06):
They've got to win playoff games and you know, either
win the division or get to the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:35:11):
If he doesn't do that, they will definitely replace him.

Speaker 2 (01:35:14):
There's no doubt about that. Right. I worry about Tua,
but I never thought he would come back if take
got knocked out the first time. But last year he
missed six games and then he had two more games
he missed with that hip injury. At the end of
the year, and in those games, Miami was two and four.
So as two of goes, so goes to your Dolphins.

Speaker 3 (01:35:31):
Yes, and you know two is a much better quarterback
than people realize. I mean, just look at the numbers
as you just gave out. When two is not there,
the Dolphins struggle, and they struggle big time too. And
I know some of the backup quarterbacks might not be
the best, but this year yours kind of looks good.
I'm wondering if he's going to be the second stringer.

Speaker 2 (01:35:50):
God forbid, something should happen to tu, but I love
to I think he's a really good quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:35:57):
Unfortunately it just didn't click from last year. Now A
Chane is going to be the starting running back for them,
and I like him a lot. Maybe that's gonna happen
because they really didn't have the running game with him
full time as the running back.

Speaker 2 (01:36:10):
I think that will open up some passing wins for him.

Speaker 1 (01:36:13):
He got to worry about it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:14):
Tight end. They signed Waller and now he's on the
physically unable to perform.

Speaker 1 (01:36:18):
How did they get him to come out of retirement?

Speaker 2 (01:36:21):
Probably wanted the money.

Speaker 1 (01:36:23):
I don't know why did they go up to know
a fan. I don't understand that this guy.

Speaker 3 (01:36:28):
I don't even know why this guy's out there to
begin with him, Probably because of the money. But if
the Dolphins, that would have been my first call was
to know a fan over anybody else out there.

Speaker 2 (01:36:39):
I'm going to say something. And the guy is a
heck of a talent. But I will tell you this,
I think Tyreek Hill is a serious problem on anything.
I'll tell you this guy, he wasn't a problem they
were winning super Bowls in Kansas City because I think
he had a control factor and that was Andy Reid.
I think that when was the last time this guy
has gone maybe a couple of months without some kind

(01:37:01):
of drama. There's always drama in his life, and I
think that rolls over with the ball club. And I
think you hit it on the head. You just said,
is there a relationship problem between Tua and Tyreek? There?
That's it takes some time drama right there, and it's
a problem, I really do.

Speaker 3 (01:37:15):
It's a problem of why you should it be. But
I think two is being a little bit sensitive. Yeah,
Tyreek said some things like I want to go look,
he's still on the team now. It never worked out,
and they didn't trade him and they kept him. They
need him, They need him big time.

Speaker 2 (01:37:30):
He didn't have a great year last year, and you
know he didn't have those breakaway touchdowns.

Speaker 3 (01:37:35):
They're double teaming him. It'll be an interesting year. We'll
see if Tua does get him the ball. I hope
he does, though.

Speaker 2 (01:37:42):
We'll see what happened. Look, I don't wish you any
harm because I know your friend. I love you. I
hope they thank you, thank you for that. But but
I don't think they're gonna do anything. You know what,
I will tell you this much. I think that they
may be in the same predicament as the Cincinnati Bengals.
What do you like in that division? Buffalo?

Speaker 3 (01:37:59):
And then who's going to finish? And second that, if
it's not gonna be Miami the Jets of the Patriots.

Speaker 1 (01:38:03):
I think the Patriots, I really I think Mike Rabel's gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:38:06):
Get four wins. So you mean they're gonna go from
four wins to what eleven wins? You got to have
eleven wins to be in second place?

Speaker 2 (01:38:13):
Maybe? Well, I think maybe nine they could. It's not
gonna be good enough. Yeah, nine oh ten and we'll
see what happened. Yeah, it'll be interesting. But I do
like when you said that basically most of the divisions
have been handpicked and you know who's gonna win them
right now.

Speaker 1 (01:38:26):
I hear what you're saying there.

Speaker 2 (01:38:27):
But you know, I think that you watch the games,
I really don't have a betting interest. You do.

Speaker 1 (01:38:33):
You do a lot of wagering on these games?

Speaker 2 (01:38:35):
Do you bet? I bet? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:38:37):
I love betting the games.

Speaker 2 (01:38:38):
So I don't bet like the futures or who's gonna
win the Super Bowl or anything.

Speaker 1 (01:38:41):
It takes takes too long to cast.

Speaker 2 (01:38:43):
So you bet on Sundays on Sundays, Yeah, yeah, exactly
exactly and every single game.

Speaker 1 (01:38:48):
No, not every single one, though I wish I did though.

Speaker 2 (01:38:51):
So, I mean, I think the popularity obviously of football
has gone to another level. So because of wagering before.
I don't like the bet prop bets as much. I
go up betting the games, the over unders and that.

Speaker 3 (01:39:05):
I don't like they always so and so going to
pass for three hundred yards or is he going to
catch any time touchdown?

Speaker 1 (01:39:11):
I don't get so much into that. Like the other
guys knew the prop betting, right, Yeah, I just.

Speaker 2 (01:39:16):
When I turned the radio one and I hear I
look on Sundays giving odds and point spreads.

Speaker 1 (01:39:21):
I just doesn't do anything for me.

Speaker 2 (01:39:23):
And it's kind of funny because you know, many years
of my life I've worked as a pr guy at
racetracks and I never made a wager. You know, I
always will serve with the story factor. You know, we
had a jockey one time with who's blind in one eye?
That was a great story, you know, things like that.
But when I tell myself, it was but wagering.

Speaker 3 (01:39:40):
You know, when I when I first started in the radio,
I wasn't allowed to give odds point spreads on the air.
It was like forbidden you were You weren't allowed to
talk gambling on the radio.

Speaker 1 (01:39:52):
Now they want you to.

Speaker 2 (01:39:53):
Oh, it's a whole different dance. It's a whole different
business now. It's crazy. It is unbelievable. And I don't
know understand how players cannot get sucked into that.

Speaker 6 (01:40:03):
And some do.

Speaker 2 (01:40:04):
And we're seeing on your phone right, we see the rumors.

Speaker 3 (01:40:08):
It's very easy to get sucked into it when you're
looking at proposition bets and all you have to do
is say I'm gonna pretend like I'm heard, and that
way I don't have to look like I'm missing shots
or not grabbing rebounds. And you can just bet the
unders and I'm going to take the game off and just.

Speaker 2 (01:40:25):
Sit out after the first quarter or something, right, And
I understand you know that the wagering and the betting,
I guess situations really do pay the freight to some extent.
In the NFL, they're big sponsors, so you got to
kind of schmooz them a little bit and you've got
to talk about them.

Speaker 1 (01:40:44):
But I don't think everybody is really on board with
the wagering, do you.

Speaker 2 (01:40:49):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:40:50):
Yeah, yes, absolutely, I think many people. Look how many
people wager on the Super Bowl? Andy, Okay, game? That's right,
that's one game. But now, oh, it's so prevalent and
so easily or available, and there's so many different ways
you can bet, and you don't need to go to
Vegas or Atlantic City or anything to that effect.

Speaker 1 (01:41:11):
You could do just right there on your phone.

Speaker 3 (01:41:13):
And everybody states now as legalized gambling, it's what like
thirty five to forty all right, I'm surprised they all
don't have it now.

Speaker 1 (01:41:20):
But maybe I'm living in a different world.

Speaker 2 (01:41:23):
I still think there's people out there that just love
the sport for the sport and turn the games on
TV on Sunday because they love the game. And well,
other people tell me, well, I need to wager on
it because it makes it more interesting. That's why I
watched the game. Football would lose half its popularity if
there was no gambling. Their ratings would be in half.

(01:41:45):
If there was no and that's for all the sports.
If there was no gambling, their ratings would be cutting half,
cutting half in half. I mean the ratings were strong
prior to gambling, legalized gambling, that is well. But people always.

Speaker 3 (01:41:59):
Gamble though, and the legal or not, people always gambled
and that was a big part of why they helped
the ratings. If gambling was taken away and people couldn't
gamble anymore, the ratings would.

Speaker 2 (01:42:09):
Suffer in all sports. They would just crumble.

Speaker 1 (01:42:13):
Ah No, I think it would maybe not.

Speaker 2 (01:42:15):
I don't think it helps baseball. I think baseball's a
very difficult sport to wager on. It is it is.
It is at hockey too, that's another one too. I
mean people do football as king college NFL. People love
to wager on football that's that's the king of the wagering.
All right. We'll get some comments on that on ex
or Twitter or if you want to call it, and

(01:42:36):
we'll do it. Arnie Spaniel because he's stinking genius one,
stinking genius one. There you go at Andy Furman FSR
Well eight seven seven ninety nine l Fox would look
to talk to you about gambling eight seven seven nine
ninety six sixty three sixty nine. We've got the blame
game at the end of this album. Right now, he's
coming home. He is coming home, but in a different role.

(01:42:56):
That's next.

Speaker 1 (01:42:58):
Al Right.

Speaker 2 (01:42:58):
These teams are just superya, they really are. We'll explain
it just a minute. He's super he's my brother from
another mother. Arnie spat here in for Bucky Brooks. Yes,
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Speaker 1 (01:43:30):
A right if we get at the end. Now I
want to talk to you about.

Speaker 3 (01:43:32):
Wait, Andy, I just I'm sorry to interrupt because I
know that Brian O, Jeff Schwartz, pul Krackenberger coming up
at the top of the hour. They do our gambling talk,
and we were talking gambling talk. Andy, this is perhaps
the best gambling bet ever in the history of gambling.
Do you, and I'm sure, do you know that story
about the gamb We're back in nineteen sixty four.

Speaker 1 (01:43:52):
Have you heard about this? Tell me? Tell me more.

Speaker 3 (01:43:55):
I thought you would have heard about this, and maybe
you'll hear it, maybe you'll understand that when I started
telling you you April nineteen sixty four, William Hill put
out a odds that man will land on the will
land on the moon at one thousand to one before

(01:44:16):
January first, nineteen seventy one, and an Englishman who was
twenty one years old took the bet, and bet at
the time which was equivalent to twenty four dollars, we
landed on the moon and he and he collected on that.
William Hill wrote him at check and back. At that time,
remember this is nineteen seventy one, it was equivalent of

(01:44:38):
about twenty four thousand dollars. So five years after they
put out the odds, Neil Armstrong and buzz Aldrin landed
on the moon, but it took thirty days to get
the photos back. Once they got the photos back, William
Hill cut him at check and he went on a cruise.

(01:44:59):
He's with it with his mom. Here's the sad part, Andy.
Three weeks or four weeks after he won that, he
got hit by a car and died. Really yes, so,
but have you ever ever heard of a bet like that,
betting that you would land on the moon.

Speaker 1 (01:45:15):
William Hill was going to put.

Speaker 2 (01:45:17):
Out a odds that we were going to land on Mars, but.

Speaker 3 (01:45:21):
They were afraid that we were going to do it.
And if people were going to bet on it and
destroy them, I would take that bet. I would say, yeah,
give me that.

Speaker 1 (01:45:30):
I'm glad you went back to the wagering situation because
I got a couple of questions.

Speaker 2 (01:45:34):
Yes, yes, all right. You mentioned and you said this
that the NFL would lose half of their audience if
there was no legalized bet.

Speaker 1 (01:45:42):
Or maybe no betting at all. Maybe that might be
stretching over, but they lose a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:45:45):
Yeah, I hear what you're saying, because it certainly has
up the interest in the game, because even fantasy more.

Speaker 1 (01:45:51):
Than less way fantasy football, that's a good call.

Speaker 3 (01:45:55):
Andy, that's that is wagering, and that has put football
talk about really pushing it up.

Speaker 1 (01:46:03):
That's a big reason why there's no doubt I've got
the games.

Speaker 2 (01:46:06):
We're sitting in the stands where people sitting next to
me will be rooting for the opposite team. Yes, what's
going on that player in fantasy football? Right?

Speaker 1 (01:46:15):
All right, you get to know the players a lot better.
It's really it's great the game.

Speaker 2 (01:46:19):
Absolutely. So if that's the case, if betting really could
increase and up the interest of the game, how come
thorobred racing or harness racing is dying.

Speaker 1 (01:46:31):
How come no one goes it used to be very popular.
Matter of fact, horse racing and boxing and things like that.

Speaker 3 (01:46:38):
Horse racing used to be like one of the top
three sporting events of our time. And the back in
the day, all the problems on horse racing's faced with
the horses dying, I think that plays a major factor
into it.

Speaker 1 (01:46:52):
But you're right.

Speaker 3 (01:46:53):
If there was no gambling, nobody would be paying attention
to horse racing at all. It have zero attention and
none whatsoever. But you were thinking, look, the Kentucky Derby
does very well. The pre races like that do very well,
especially with the gambling going on.

Speaker 2 (01:47:11):
I would say this that perhaps this situation with racetracks
right now, they are not really into the horses as
much as the casino aspect of it. You go to
a racetrack right now, any racetrack in America, they usually
have slot machines in there as well as lying horse racing.
So I think people are more interesting wars slot machines,

(01:47:33):
certainly because when you go to a racetrack it's about
twenty to twenty two minutes in between each race. I
think people right now, and you mentioned this earlier today,
they want action and they want action right now.

Speaker 3 (01:47:44):
They want to they am right, twenty two minutes is
way too long. I can't do that, man, I can't.
Let's go every seven minutes sounds good than me. Let's
get it going, you know. And that's what they have.

Speaker 2 (01:47:54):
When I worked, I worked in New Hampshire the Greyhound Track.
It was like every seven minutes. They went nuts and
they loved it. Und racing was unbelievable. I was in
a Belmont, Belmont, New Hampshire. It was a race track
there and I worked there. It was great.

Speaker 3 (01:48:08):
My dad loved the little trotter. My dad loved the trotters.
I don't know if you know what that is that
I worked the track. Oh, my dad love Yeah, you
love that one. He probably went to Yonkers Raceway. Yeah, yeah, absolutely,
Yonkers Raceway. That's where they have the trotters.

Speaker 1 (01:48:23):
You bet there you go unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:48:25):
Now it's told about wagering rageo on which teams are
going to go to the Super Bowl this year, and
Aaron Rodgers says that the Pittsburgh Steelers are a contender.
You know what, And it's great that he says that.
I don't honestly think they're a super Bowl contender. If
they're there, may be a playoff contender. I don't think
they're a super Bowl contender. You know, I'll give him.
I'm not going to go ahead and mince words.

Speaker 3 (01:48:46):
Yeah, if you're a contender to make the playoffs, then
you're a contender to win the super Bowl. Remember, this
is a team that's been over five hundred during Tomlin's
uh uh, you know, ten year as coach. So if
you're going to be over five hundred and you're gonna
be in contention for the playoffs or it means you're
in contention for the super Bowl. So I agree with
Aaron on that I don't think they will. I don't

(01:49:07):
think they'll make the playoffs. I think they're destined for
third place. But I would agree that. You know, when
you're talking about that, there's probably a good twelve or
thirteen fourteen teams then you could say are up for
the super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (01:49:19):
I got ten teams that I'm just gonna roll off
my tongue here to you, and you tell me if
you think they're contenders. Okay, all right, glas See Ravens, Yes, yes,
of course, Bill's Eagles.

Speaker 1 (01:49:31):
Those three are in all right, all right?

Speaker 3 (01:49:33):
And by the way, you know, no team is won
back to back NFC East titles in twenty years.

Speaker 2 (01:49:39):
The Eagles won it last year. That means they can't
win it this year. I'm assuming maybe it'd be tough
in twenty years. You know what, I think there's a
fact that, like you know, we've made it to the Mountain,
you know, and then we could kind of kicking it
to you know, neutral a little bit, don't there's no
kicking it into you know, you think, no, we don't
think athletes that have that mindset, like you know, they
always say going to repeat with coming back. I think

(01:50:01):
there's something to be said about, well, we did it,
we made it, you know, we made to the Promised Land.

Speaker 1 (01:50:07):
I mean, maybe we did.

Speaker 2 (01:50:08):
But that's just one team.

Speaker 3 (01:50:09):
All the other teams did make it to the Promised Land.
They didn't win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (01:50:14):
They want to win it. They've still got no doubt.

Speaker 2 (01:50:16):
Yeah, I'll just said a team that has won it previously,
maybe it doesn't have that desire, that heavy desire to
come back and do it again, be to repeat, you know, Guys,
some athletes do, like Michael Jordan did. I mean he
had that desire he did. Okay, I got the Chiefs
Lions commanders. The Chiefs Lions Commander's got six of them.
I agree with all those. There you go, there's forty

(01:50:38):
nine ers Packers. Of the forty nine ers, remember they
finished in the last place last year. They did have
a lot of injury, a lot of injuries. So that's
gonna be again. That's a toss up division. I mean,
they can go anywhere. I can see people making cases
for the Ramsyhawks.

Speaker 3 (01:50:54):
I like the Cardinals, and like I said, if the
forty nine ers stay healthy, they're obviously a lot better team.
I don't know if I would consider them super Bowl
contenders though.

Speaker 2 (01:51:02):
And I'm putting the Rams in it to it. That's
my ten, and I'm putting their face against the glasses
number eleven pushing. I'm putting the Steelers there because of
what Aaron said.

Speaker 3 (01:51:12):
You don't like the second place team for the AFC
West like the Chargers of the Broncos.

Speaker 1 (01:51:17):
I do like the Charges though, I really do.

Speaker 2 (01:51:19):
But I think they're gonna do well the surprise because
I think Harpar's going to get it going. I think
that the quarterback situation is going to take it to
another level this year. But I just I got to
see it first, you know. And what about the Texans.

Speaker 3 (01:51:30):
If they win the division, and they should probably win
the division, you're not buying them.

Speaker 2 (01:51:35):
They had it down here last year, though they did,
they went from good to like a little weaker last year.

Speaker 1 (01:51:40):
I just I don't know. I don't know about that
what about you?

Speaker 2 (01:51:44):
What do you think I look I like the last
year playoffs though.

Speaker 1 (01:51:48):
Well I liked them last year. You were one hundred
percent right on that.

Speaker 2 (01:51:51):
But C. J.

Speaker 1 (01:51:51):
Stroud took a major step backwards.

Speaker 2 (01:51:55):
I was I was shocked.

Speaker 3 (01:51:56):
I thought that this kid was going to continue to
grow and they were gonna have a monster year.

Speaker 2 (01:52:02):
He takes a step backwards, Joe, here's the question after
he did. There's no doubt in my mind. Do he
take a step backwards because other teams had a lot
of film on him and know what he was doing,
or he just didn't improve?

Speaker 3 (01:52:14):
It could be or it could be the sophomore swamp.
I mean you've heard, you've heard about that they made
some changes. I thought they had a good running game.
Now Joe Mixon's hurt, how's that going to affect him?
Is Chubb gonna be the starting back there? That's that's
gonna be interesting if there's a sophomore swump. What's gonna
happen in Washington?

Speaker 1 (01:52:33):
Do you buy that?

Speaker 3 (01:52:34):
Do you do you think there's gonna be a sophomore
slump there? Or Washington is gonna continue to get better
because everybody's jumped on the Commander's bandwagon.

Speaker 2 (01:52:42):
I mean that's yeah, it's not even funny. There's no
team more but Jaylen Daniels. Jayden Daniels. Is he gonna
have another good year or is he gonna go do
that slump? Right?

Speaker 1 (01:52:52):
Two teams that I think that could be surprise teams
this year.

Speaker 2 (01:52:54):
You hit on one of them, the Charges, although last
year Justin Herbert had a career low two unto twenty seven,
that's not a surprise. They finished was a running guy.
How he likes to run the football, Okay. And the
other surprise team I think is to be Jacksonville, and
I can't wait to see that team because I want
to see what Travis Huntter does.

Speaker 1 (01:53:11):
I'm gonna put them up. But we picked up every
year as a surprise Jacksonville.

Speaker 2 (01:53:14):
Don't we do that every year?

Speaker 1 (01:53:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:53:15):
They do?

Speaker 1 (01:53:16):
Surprise.

Speaker 2 (01:53:16):
Tell is there.

Speaker 3 (01:53:17):
Anybody more disappointing right now than Trevor Lawrence. We're talking
about a big name quarterback. And yes, they did to
get to the playoffs, and they they did beat Dallas,
But I mean I expected a lot more from him
by now.

Speaker 2 (01:53:28):
But he's had four or five offensive coordinators and different
coaches over the list several years.

Speaker 1 (01:53:32):
I think there's a big fact who.

Speaker 2 (01:53:33):
Hasn't had that many? Everybody says they had that many.
You know, come on, you know what, throw in on
the AFC with throwing the Denver Broncos because I think
bone Nicks could have a good year this year. I'm
ready to take that step second Seaton. I like bone Knicks,
I like the Broncos.

Speaker 3 (01:53:48):
I'm pumping the brakes on them as being a Super
Bowl contender. Every you talk about being everybody's daring and
everybody jumping on the bandwagon. There's no room left on
the badwagon for Broncos. They have everybody on that bad wagon.
Everybody's jumping on them, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:54:04):
You know, we're doing exactly what I said that we
shouldn't do, making these stupid predictions and they never come
to they never come to pass. I know. But that's
that's what the NFL does. They suck you in. The
NFL is like the mafia. They suck you in you
can't get out. That's what it basically is. And I'm
sucked in. I end like the Sopranos. Right is what
it is, is exactly right, And you're telling me the
season starts Thursday night. It does well to start Thursday

(01:54:26):
night for me, not for you. You wait till week
one of the regular seasons you do, but beginning this
week there's not going to be any open week. Are
you watching until watching? You're watching Thursday?

Speaker 1 (01:54:36):
Of course I'm watching. I mean, do you watch the
whole game where you just like.

Speaker 2 (01:54:40):
Watch the quarter because by the third quarter they're going
to put in the third show? I know, I know,
but so what though? You know, have you watched the
the Netflix series on the Quarterbacks? No, I've not seen
that yet. I've heard a lot of people like that, though.
I think you had to give that a shot, really that.

Speaker 1 (01:54:54):
Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:54:56):
I like that. I like films of the Yesteryear game.
I still have to see Happy Gilmore too. That just
came out.

Speaker 1 (01:55:02):
I haven't seen that one that either.

Speaker 2 (01:55:05):
You know, you could talk about sports films, but still
in all the best sports films to me are baseball,
even though football's number Football's king at college football in
the NFL. But I think the best movies, the sports
movies I think are baseball movies usually are. I mean,
there's some that I don't like that everybody else likes
out there, but they usually are. I'm getting sad because

(01:55:26):
it's almost the end of the day. A quick show today.
I want to talk to you like for another six years.
I mean probably probably. I hope that's not the case.

Speaker 1 (01:55:34):
All Right, Arnie.

Speaker 2 (01:55:35):
Spaniel, Andy Furman, let's talk some fingers and point some fingers.

Speaker 1 (01:55:39):
All right, how we do that? The blame game freaking next.

Speaker 2 (01:55:43):
All right, the blame game coming right up about twelve
minutes now before the top of the hour. He's Arnie
Spaniard and foot Buck he Brooks and Andy Furman, and
we're live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. As you mentioned, Arnie,
as you mentioned the top of the hour, nine am
Eastern Countdown with Brian Nojeff Schwartz and Bill Krakenberger.

Speaker 1 (01:55:58):
Could you live in Vegas? Could you live in there?

Speaker 2 (01:56:00):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:56:02):
I lived there for like one year, and it was
the longest ten years of my life. Every year is
like ten years. It's like dog years there. It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:56:11):
It's absolutely not saying it's too hot though it Oh,
I'm not even talking about the hotness or the weather
or anything like that.

Speaker 1 (01:56:17):
I'm just talking about staying out all night and gambling.
And look, you know how we have a producer for
the show.

Speaker 2 (01:56:23):
Right when I used to work in Las Vegas at
a network, producers didn't produce your show.

Speaker 1 (01:56:30):
That's not what they were there for.

Speaker 2 (01:56:31):
Andy. They didn't say, hey, let me get your guess
or answer the phones.

Speaker 3 (01:56:35):
Producers, you would give them money and they would go
make your bets for you at the casinos. You know,
your sports bets. So you would say, here, this is
what I want, and they would go and they would
make your sports bets. I'll never forget this.

Speaker 2 (01:56:48):
Once or we'd give them our paycheck and they would
cast our paychecks for us.

Speaker 1 (01:56:52):
I'll never forget this. I wouldn't give you his name.

Speaker 2 (01:56:55):
We had a host by the name of Papa Joe Chevalier,
and he gave him yeah, and he gave his a
check to one of the producers to cash and come back.
The guy comes back three hours later and had that
look on his face, and Papa Joe goes, don't tell me.
He went to the blackjack table and lost the whole paycheck,

(01:57:15):
the whole.

Speaker 1 (01:57:17):
The whole thing.

Speaker 3 (01:57:18):
So I'm not sure you know I lived in Vegas.
I'm not so sure I can go back now and
live there. It's it's you know, it's not a good
thing to do.

Speaker 2 (01:57:27):
That's free. You know, our chieester used to live there
and work at the network. I used to and had
some problems, so it takes especial All right, it's time,
little dupper, let's do it.

Speaker 4 (01:57:41):
You ring me.

Speaker 7 (01:57:42):
It's all your fault, it's your fault.

Speaker 1 (01:57:45):
Get it all your fault. Maybe it's everyone's fault, the liar.

Speaker 2 (01:57:53):
That's why there's the blame game. Let's figure out who
to blame. All right, held, let's get it going.

Speaker 6 (01:58:00):
All right, Well, it's time to play the blame game everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:58:03):
So on this edition, who do you blame? Here? So?

Speaker 1 (01:58:06):
I got one for you guys.

Speaker 6 (01:58:08):
So Lebron James apparently has been flirting with the idea
of joining and requesting a trade to go to the
Dallas Mavericks to possibly reunite with Kyrie Irving and Anthony Davis.

Speaker 2 (01:58:20):
Who do you blame on this one?

Speaker 7 (01:58:22):
Andy?

Speaker 2 (01:58:23):
I was gonna say his agent, but I don't think
his agent has any power.

Speaker 1 (01:58:26):
It's all about Lebron.

Speaker 2 (01:58:27):
Let it go. Lebron, stay in La You're not gonna
go there. You're not gonna win in Dallas. But the
Lakers are building the rebuilding. Maybe you could get something
out of it. I mean, you did average by twenty
eight and eight last year, so maybe you got something
left in the tank. Stay in La please, No.

Speaker 1 (01:58:43):
No, Andy, he he needs to go. That's why he's
talking about it. You know, he needs to go.

Speaker 2 (01:58:48):
A matter of fact. What bothers me?

Speaker 1 (01:58:50):
And we didn't bring this up? How come Luca can.

Speaker 2 (01:58:53):
Go ahead and recruit Marcus Smart?

Speaker 3 (01:58:55):
But yet Lebron never recruits anybody? How come Marcus Smart
to say no, Lebron never texted me welcome me.

Speaker 2 (01:59:04):
Kid?

Speaker 1 (01:59:05):
Come on?

Speaker 2 (01:59:05):
Really, okay, he's got that, but he never even welcome
Marcus Smart to the team.

Speaker 3 (01:59:10):
I just don't think that Lebron is all invested to
be in a Laker anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:59:14):
He knows that this is going to be his final
year and that he's going to leave, and I think
it's better off that he leaves sooner than later. He
should go to Dallas.

Speaker 6 (01:59:23):
All right, Well, moving on from the NBA, we're gonna
go to well baseball, guys. So a kid was suspended
from his little league playoff game for violating sportsmanship rules.
Why because he was performing in air quotes all about me.

Speaker 1 (01:59:38):
Type of a bat flip? So who do you blame
on this one, Arnie? Oh, you know, look, we make
a big thing.

Speaker 6 (01:59:44):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:59:44):
The announcers said, look at that bad flip, the best ever.
They look at the players and they do that. I
was appalled that they went ahead and suspended him, and
the next game happened to be the championship game. I'm
glad they reinstated him. From what I understood of the
latest on this story was they reinstated him. I don't
know what he did in the championship game, or even
if it was played. I'm glad they did. You can't

(02:00:06):
stick to the It just was too much Andy. The
kid did a bad flip. Don't act like he did
some major crime or something. So I'm glad they reinstated him. Well,
I'm glad they reinstated it because I think he should have.
But the point is this, I don't know if the
rules of the little legal that he plays and says
you can't do a bad flip.

Speaker 1 (02:00:22):
So I don't know what the.

Speaker 2 (02:00:23):
Rules of it. It's not the bad flip is that
if you act your conduct, I guess is what they
try to I guess. I don't know. But look, you
know he did it because the major league players do it.
That's right, did it exactly, So it's not a big deal.
Let it go. Really, come on, I'd rather do that
than chew tobacco one hundred percent. Right, yeah, just little kids,

(02:00:45):
just that would be a problem. Well, let's go. Let's
move on to a different type of a problem.

Speaker 6 (02:00:50):
So NBA Commissioner Adam Silver has stated he doesn't believe
the number of games or number of minutes is a
major contributing factor. That most Hilli's injuries happened in the
first half of the season.

Speaker 1 (02:01:02):
Really, who do you blame on this one?

Speaker 6 (02:01:06):
Andy?

Speaker 1 (02:01:07):
I blame him. He's full of it. He knows he's
full of it too.

Speaker 2 (02:01:10):
Go ahead, they have the more minuature play, obviously, the
more chance you have of getting heart.

Speaker 1 (02:01:14):
I disagree with the commissioner on this one.

Speaker 2 (02:01:16):
Also, right there we go.

Speaker 1 (02:01:18):
And that's guy you for having me, big boy. It
was a quick show today. I love you. I love
you too.

Speaker 2 (02:01:23):
You again, have a wonderful day, wonderful week. We'll see
you then, all right, countdowns next the Fox

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