Andy Furman & Bucky Brooks open the show discussing Fernando Mendoza's Heisman performance against Ohio State, and a recap of the Championship games in College Football from the weekend. The guys then dive into former steelers LB James Harrison's comments he made abut Mike Tomlin not being a good HC, why the CFB portal is open during the playoffs, and whether or not Deshaun Watson will play QB for the Browns this season. Plus, new editions of Ask Bucky, and the Blame Game!
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are you bucket? What a day yesterday? What a day?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Yeah, what a great day. What a great college football.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
That's why everyone who's a college football fan tunes in
great Day.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I tell you what, though, I watched the Indiana game,
and the first thing that came to mind after they
beat Ohio State thirteen ten, I'm thinking of Kurt Signetti.
Kurt Signetti interviewed for the University of Cincinnati football coaching
position back in twenty twenty two after Luke Fickle left
to go to Wisconsin and the athletic threat the University
of Cincinnati. John Cunningham was not interested because quote he
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lacked power for experience and highed Scott Siderfield. Instead. Take that,
John Cunningham, take what do you think John Cunningham was
thinking when he's watching Indiana play all season long and
beating up on Ohio State yesterday thirteen ten, unbelievable experience.
This guy's a coach. You could coach pee wee high school, junior,
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high school, you know, college, If you got it in
you you're a coach.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
I mean, yeah, I understand that, Like I can understand
some of the skepticism. Even though Kirk Signetti's long track
record of success. There is a jump from James Madison
to Indiana. When you're talking about Indiana team that had
never wanted I mean, had oney, big tenses, whatever, sixty seven,
a team that doesn't have a lot of success. I
thought it was the graphic on Fox last night's second
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most losses in FBS history. I can understand why you
might be skeptical on taking someone like that. However, when
you go back and you deep diaper, dig a little
deeper into his pass, you see the Nick Saban connection,
you see other things that he learned along the way. Yeah,
like he's having a success that I don't think anyone
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can envision, but good for him. Sometimes people can't see
your vision before they have before it happens.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
All right, Indiana, right now, it's thirteen in oh Ohio.
State goes to twelve and one, the first loss of
the year, the first outright title for all Indiana since
nineteen forty five. So the question I have before we
get into this game and pull a curtain back a
little bit for Nando Mendoza, we looked at the Heisman
Trophy as a quarterback trophy, and obviously is Fernando going
to win the Heisman from that game yesterday, Is he
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the Heisman winner?
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Yeah, He's gonna win the Heidsman because I think this
is a year where no one has really distinguished themselves.
I think the story in terms of Indiana's rise to prominence.
I think his story in terms of like how he's
handled the press, that the more people learn about him,
the more they fall in love.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
With the story. I think he's going to win it.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
I think what's gonna be interesting is not only him
winning the Heisman, but the conversation about him potentially being
the number one overall pick.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
That's gonna be a fascinating one to.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Me, unbelieve. Now, now, the buck guys had a chance
to take the lead on fourth and one on the
Indiana five yard line. That was like late in the
third quarter. Then they had that replay and the review
overturned the call on the field saying that Julian's saying
the quarterback for Ohio State came up short for the
first down possibility, and they had a chance to tie
with the Tighter scored about two and a half minutes
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to play in the game, but Jaden fielding missus twenty
nine yard field goal. What do you think this kid's
feeling right now? Twenty nine yard field goal almost a
chip shot really, but obviously in front of that crowd,
the pressure, I'm sure it got to to some extent
because I'm sure he could kick a twenty nine yard
field goal. What a mask on?
Speaker 4 (04:15):
I mean, yeah, I'm pretty sure something that he makes routinely.
You're talking about a little more than an extra point,
and he just was unable to get it done. And look,
your heart breaks for him because you love to see
people perform under pressure. You don't want to see anyone
hurting or feel the way that the fan base come
down him. But at the end of the day, you're
Ohio State. You have more than enough opportunities to win
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that game. The fourth and one that you decided to
go with, Julian says didn't go doesn't go your way.
You could have kicked the field goal to tie it DN,
assuming that he makes it. You come down. You had
ample opportunity to win the game and you're unable to
do so. So as much as my heartbreaks for the kid,
I have to give a lot of credit.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
To Indiana for making the plays that were dead to
be made.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
All Right, We talked about Mendoz that possibly winning the
Heistchan Trophy, but honestly, you know that trophy going to quarterbacks.
But it's very difficult for me to say he's an
outright winner because what won that game yesterday for Indiana
was defense, not the quarterback as much as the defense.
Two things in my mind won the game for Indiana.
Defense and ball control. They just kept on keeping that
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ball away from Ohio State, and the defense was tremendous
and that won the ball game for him.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
I mean, yeah, I mean, I think both teams wanted
to play the same way.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
They wanted to dominate possession.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
They wanted to limit the opportunities that the opponent had
because both offenses were fairly explosive. And in this one
Indiana and Dan Lanning said this to Oregon coach when
they played Indiana, man about his well coached team, as
you're going to play, and in watching that game, they
look well coached. And the way I judge that is
just look at how they execute the assignments and are
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they consistent in terms of the way that they play.
Indiana was very consistent in terms of you could see
what the game plan was, you could see the things
that they were asking their players to do. You and man,
they did him at a high level. I guess the
team that everyone in regards as the most talented team
in college football, they limited them. And you are right
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to give the credit to the defense. They didn't give
up the big plays. They kept Carneal Tate and Jeremiah
Smith and Bo Jackson under wraps for most of the
day and they were able to win it. I mean,
it is a terrific performance. In general, Mendoza is gonna
get a lot of the credit, right, He's gonna be
the Heisman Trophy in those things. But I'm gonna tell you, man,
Indiana's success is due to the entire team, not just
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to one person, no doubt about that.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
And honestly, you know, I look at that game and
a change. I mean, who would have thunk that Indiana
of all teams. I mean, look, I know what he
did last year. I didn't think And I watched the
pregame show on Fox. Everybody, to a man when they
had that pindle out there, no one picked Indiana. Everybody said,
Ohio State's coulda win the game? I guess you know
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they would have the favorites to win that game. I'm sure,
but I looked at the penalty. Even on our own guy
Brady Quinn, he he picked Ohio State. They all picked
Ohio State. I'm saying, wow. I mean, you know, don't
bury them that quickly. They're not that bad. I mean
they and they came back and they won the ball game.
That was amazing. It really was.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
But I mean I understand why everyone would pick Ohio State,
like everyone anyone around college football would ta you. It's
the most talented team in football. They're gonna have maybe
four first round picks from in this year's draft alone.
They got two of the top wide receivers in the country.
The quarterback was a big time recruit who transferred from Alabama.
Offensive line is terrific, defensive line or whatever, all those things.
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And they're coming on the heels of winning a national
title a season ago. So you think the championship pedigree
and all that's going to play in their favor, it
makes sense to pick Ohio State. And for Indiana, let's
be honest, we saw them be Oregon. But there's still
a little bit of that hangover from last year when
we saw them having their opportunity in the big stage
against Notre Dame and they got molly wopped. And so
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sometimes you don't believe until you see it. And now
you're more likely to believe in Indiana as a number
one team because they have this victory under their built.
Now you believe that they are with the heavyweights and
they're won the big time.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Guys, there you go.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I do believe that. We have some comments from the
Indiana quarterback Fernando and uh, let's hear what he has
to say.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
We want to give all the glory to gone.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
We're never supposed to be in this position. Be by
the glory Golle. The great coach is great teams. I'm
around us school.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
We were able to pull this off.
Speaker 6 (08:31):
Whoever go to hoos would be here for now, the
Hoosiers or flipping champs.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Let's go.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
You guys call yourself a bunch of misfits who found
the right home at Indiana.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Why was this the right place.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
For this group?
Speaker 6 (08:43):
Is the right place for process orangein We're going.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Day by day?
Speaker 2 (08:46):
What is abitalan?
Speaker 6 (08:47):
The defense, the coaches, special teams, we're all prozes orangin
to one goal. That's our thing is we're brothers. We
can drag teams to the defense because we know that
we're gonna stick together and we're the strongest glue ever.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
But amazing and brothers. After that first play, I saw
Mendoz's brother come in there because it looks like he
may have been out for the game. I don't know
exactly what happened. He got hit pretty hard on that play,
Fernando did.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
He did get hit pretty hard.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
And maybe that's why it sounded like an infomercer for
Indiana football.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
When he was being interviewed. Every cliche that the coach
has ever uttered.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
In a in a team meeting, he certainly was willing
to say.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
But give them a lot of credit.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
And I think people have to understand, like all of
the coininess behind Kirk Signetti some of their players in
terms of their talking, beneath that is a true self belief,
a belief in the process, a belief in the program
and what they're talking about, and they have it on
And I would say Signetti will be kind of the
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post a child for the quick turnaround, because what Indiana
has done has led all of these rabid fan bases
to believe that their team should turn around instantly.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
When a coach gets there now.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
He brought half of his squad from JMU there.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
But it doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
People are going to say Indiana haired a new coach
and immediately the first year they went to the College
Football Playoff. The second year they won the Big Ten
and they're the number one seed in the playoff.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
We want that type of thing.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
So for the seats of Lane Kiffin and Matt Campbell
and some of these other people that went to big jobs,
Indiana is going to be used as the floor, not
the ceiling. So he made Kirk Signetty made a lot
of people's jobs a little tougher last night.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
And I'd love to see the nil payroll from Indiana
as opposed to Ohio State. I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
No, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
If you go and look, I think they've said, like
one of the it's the top ten endowment size in
terms of that alumni base instructure, Indiana has far more
money than anyone ever could anticipate. That's why Kurt Signetti
was never leaving there. There's a lot of money it
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is up there. When it comes to the level of endowment,
the alumni base and the money that they give back
to that university.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Interesting okay.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
But now moving on from Indiana, we got some bubble
problems over here because we have three teams with ten wins, Alabama,
Notre Dame of Miami, and they all say, hey, we
belong in the playoffs. So what's happening today today? I'm
glad I'm not on that committee. I couldn't live with myself,
really and truly, because you don't know. You got the
Crimson time, the fighting Irish, the hurricane BYU. They came
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out of the conversation, yes, thinks they got a twenty
seven point loss to Texas Tech. That was the Big
twelve championship game and the opening buys, I guess are
going to go to Indiana, Ohio State, Georgia and Texas Tech.
That's it right there, so that I know for sure.
Other than that's kind of wide open. Let's discuss this deal,
Miami versus not Ja Dame. Who's going to get in there?
You got to say, head to head, Miami beat not
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You Dame. Back in September, what happens now? What does
the committee do?
Speaker 4 (12:04):
I mean, if Miami and Notre Dame squared off on
the field, Miami has to get the NOD.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
I mean That's just what it is.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Otherwise, why play the game If Miami doesn't get the
benefit of knocking off Notre Dame. Why would I play
a heavyweight in the future if I don't get the
benefit from it. So Miami has to go in over
Notre Dame. No matter what people talk about the eyeball
test or whatever, the thing that we did see. We
saw those two teams play and we saw Miami win.
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So Miami has to be rated over top of them.
The question that you can have is does Alabama deserve
to be in. I know they made it to the
championship game, and it's not fair to go to a
championship game and penalize the loser. Even though it's the
second time they matched up with Georgia, they beat them
one and lost to whatever. I would say that of
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those three, Alabama would be the team that.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
You get left.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Alabama has three losses, But then the argument would be
where they shouldn't be penalized for that, and that would
leave Notre Dame out.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
If you want to leave a president, then you leave
Notre Dame out.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
And it would be hard because the brand. It would
be hard because of the brand. But if you go
through it. Miami beat Notre Dame, and Alabama went to
the conference championship game.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Notre Dame does a plan a conference. They don't.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
They chose to be independent, so you have to penalize
them in that situation.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
But there's one other thing. Obviously, Alabama, as you mentioned,
had three losses, but one of those losses was a
double digit loss to Florida State, which is five and seven.
That's the dagger that's gonna kill Alabama right there.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Yeah, I mean, look, it's certainly dead hurts. That does hurt.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
And if you talk about Notre Dame's losses, their losses
are better than the losses that Alabama had because you
throw into Florida State thing. They lost the Texas and
m and they lost to Miami, two teams that are
going to be in the playoff.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
That is a thing.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
You better pull out the computer sheets because it's gonna
be a long day to day trying to justify what
is happening with all of this. And I'm gonna say this,
and I know you sometimes love the little guy, the underdog,
but I'm gonna say this, Tulane and JMU being in
the playoff, can't say that I'm excited about seeing those.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Two teams in the playoff.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
If they go James Madison University goes in Sunbuilt, they
represent their conference champion and those things. Cannot say that
I'm excited about seeing them play one of the heavyweights.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
It is a nice story, but I.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Look, if we're talking about twelve best teams, yeah, yeah,
And I've said this, this playoff is all messed up.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
There should be a big Boy Trophy and a little
Boy Trophy.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Where they all can play and light universities can play
against each other and we celebrate everybody as champions. But yeah,
I can't say that I'm really excited about that.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
And more than that, you talk about those two teams
JMU going there, perhaps they're talking about maybe Duke with
five losses. And more than that, I'm not forgetting about Vanderbilt,
I think, and they both should go over those those
other outside schools. The jm us. Really, I think Vanderbilt
is gonna ti get screwed.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Right, No, No, done that. Vanderbilt then get screwed. They
gotta win. Look, they gotta win the thing. Yeah, ten wins,
that's great.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
But if you're gonna talk about Vanderbilt, then you have
to talk about Texas because that's how Texas beat Vanderbilt.
Like then goes down to cannon warms, like if we're
going to say it, and we're gonna say, like the
conference championships have to mattering those things cool conference champions go.
But I do believe there should be a group of
five champion and there should be a power for champion
because then you're dealing with like schools versus like schools.
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I just don't think the novelty of the David and
the Goliath is going to play out the way that
we think is gonna play out when they get to
the field.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Okay, you talk about Texas right now, Texas is three
and two against top fifteen teams. Okay, and two of
those three losses came on the road against Ohio State
and Georgia. Okay, they're the only team to beat number
seven Texas A and M this year. Texas has somewhat
of an argument. But I think you got three law is.
I think you're you're in the back room. I don't
think you're gonna make a three longches. Be tough, be
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real tough to get into. I think alabamarown think's gonna go.
I just don't think they're gonna get it. But again,
this committee has a tough call to make today. They're
gonna look at what the team has done of late,
because obviously Notre Dame lost that first two, but round
of ten straight wins. Obviously. Another problem is going to
be the name factor, the name Notre Dame. I think
that's going to carry them into the playoffs, don't you think.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
I don't know, man, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Like I guess, you have to look at this schedule
and who what's the notable win, what's the big win,
the signature win that makes Notre Dame deserving of going
in the postseason? Who do they snatch down that they
were not supposed to snatch down. It's one thing to
say that those two losses against the top ten teams,
even though they were close, they were there. Who did
they knock off that we can say is a signature
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win on their schedule?
Speaker 3 (16:54):
And I think that is the bigger thing.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Like people love Notre Dame, we love the brand and
all that other stuff. But if we're gonna make this
a bit of a meritocracy, I don't know how they
go on merit particularly when you have a loss against Miami,
who's right there with them. I just don't know, like
what accomplishments, what accolades justified in being included in the conversation.
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I don't know if I have any.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Name, I think the name's going to carry them, I
really do. I mean, you know a lot of the
factors that go in there that will never know. People
want eyeballs. They want these eyeballs going there on the TVs,
and I think that it doesn't to me. I don't
think I make so much of a difference people going
to watch anyway. You know, it was great football yesterday.
The first two games of blowouts, but that Indiana Ohio
State game was a great game. And I'm sure the
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ratings were out through the roof last night. There was
nothing else on there really wasn't. However, I think that
they are so concerned with the eyeball test that's going
to be a factor. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think
they are concerned with that.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
I mean, I get it, certainly, I understand why, understand
why you would have that conversation about Notre Dame and
the eyeball test. And it is a TV show, not
necessarily a true playoff.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
But man, you just talk about.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Like changing the landscape potentially, you're changing the landscape of
college football in terms of the marquee games that we
will or will not see in the in the regular season,
and how teams are gonna take cupcakes all the way through.
They gonna take cupcakes all the way through. Now, I'm
gona say this about jam JAMU had one of the
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softest schedules. Either they didn't play anybody. Now they moley
whipped everybody, but they didn't play anyone of significance.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
So you have them getting in.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
You have Tulane taking the spot, so you have two
teams taking spots. Look, man, it just makes it very,
very difficult for me to say, oh, this is a
great playoff because you don't have the best teams in
the playoff.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
I'm with you right there, and I'll throw another wrench
into the situation before we roll this out of here.
If the conference championship game is not gonna hurt Alabama's
ability to make the tournament, and it may not, who knows,
then why should it hurt Brigham Young They finished eleven
and one. They wanted to kick the conference right, So
I mean, obviously Brigham Young's got an argument. Although they
got you know, they got banged.
Speaker 7 (19:11):
They got yesterday, right, Yeah, they got They got banged
up pretty good, and they got banged up twice by
the same team. The difference between Alabama and Brigham Young
is Alabama beat Georgia. They beat Georgia down in Georgia,
and then they basically played Georgia in another home game
in Atlanta, which is only an hour away from Athens, like,
so they had to deal with them twice and they
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split b YU was never close in either game.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
So I think we have to discount them. We got
to move them from right.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
And you're right, everything you say is correct. I'll throw
out one more thing. Alabama's got three losses that that
to me hurts too. Three losses, you know.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
I mean, I mean, yeah, yeah, I mean that's tough, tough.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
I mean, I'm glad I'm not on the committee because
you know, I couldn't. I couldn't live with myself. I mean,
we got the door. I said, maybe I should have
voted this. I just I'm glad I'm not. I want
to watch that deal today to see what happens.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
I mean, if you got big onions, it wouldn't be
a problem. Like if you just got you know, big
HANGI downs as you like to reference. You just make
a decision and you leave who you need to leave out. Yeah,
it's kind of easy leave them out.
Speaker 6 (20:18):
Well.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
You know.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
The funny thing is, I want these guys to be
somewhat transparent. I want to see who voted for who
and why. And I will never really find out the
truth about that, but we'll see. By the way, we're
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let's get into this right now. I want to just
touch for a second if I may on this Lane
Kiffin thing, because to me, I find that someone amusing
and somewhat crazy in the sense. Okay, there was a
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couple of players from Old Miss and they posted the
other day on x saying that Lane Kiffin's claim about
them asking him to stay, and one of the linebackers
there at OL, miss Perkins, I think considering Perkins said
that that was not the message you said in the
meeting room. Everybody that was in there can vouch for
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this that they did not wish that he would stay.
I mean, this guy's got some problems. And then he
said on the way to the airport with his son,
people were cutting him off, you know, and flipping him
the one finger salute. I don't get it. I mean, really,
I think they were happy to see him go. What
do you think? I don't Why would he say things
like that.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Well, I think people were happy to see him go
because he dragged him through such a soap op to
get there. It's one thing to take a job to
a conference rival. It's another thing to leave this team
hanging while you're competing not only for a conference title,
but for a college football playoff. Berth Blane Kiffin could
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have handled this completely differently if he had just made
a decision, gone to the ads, and been able to
live with decision that, hey man, we're not gonna let
you coach the rest of the way. And I know
that other people have been able to coach after taking jobs, right, So,
whether you say John somemmerl at Tulane before he took
the job at Florida, Popchesney at JMU, coached the finale
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before he took the job at UCLA, all those things
are cool. But Lane Kiffen could not get it done
because they just couldn't get on the same.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Page and because he dragged them through this stuff.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
If he's just straight up with everybody takes the job,
if you're gonna leave leif, I understand the players feeling
like that.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
But Lane wanted to be the good guy and the
bad gut the same time.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
He wanted to be the good guy, like, oh, I
love you guys so much, but I want to take
this job for my money because I feel like it's
better for me. But he was a bad guy by
poaching the coaching staff and saying, hey, I'm not gonna
let those guys coach with you, until he finally relented
and let Charlie Weiss Junior coach the offense. So to me,
if I'm old miss, I understand them standing ten toes
down and not allowing them to coach because it was
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a lot. He was trying to have his cake and
eat it too.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah. Do you know Lane Kiffin at all? Have you
met him? I mean, have you supposed Yeah?
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Yeah, I mean I've been around the circuit with I
can't say they were buddies. But I know him fairly well,
having been a scout when he was at as He
knowing when he was with the Raiders all that.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Like, I know who he is.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
I mean to me, I mean, I don't know him
at all, but I just think he's got an ego
bigger than the moon. And I don't think LUs he
was going to be his last stop.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Maybe maybe not. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Look, I will say this, he's a great coach, He's
a great offensive mine.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
He's done a lot of wonderful things.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
He rebuilt the brand at Old Man, he had a
lot of success at Florida Atlantic in those things. But
Elish is a different pressure cooker. He's stepping into something
that is maybe the biggest job that he's had, and
we'll see if he can handle all those things. For
all of the currency and goodwill that Lane had built
up doing his rebirth at Old Miss. He threw it
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all out the window and the way he handled this situation.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
But now he just has to own it. He's the villain.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
He just has to be okay with it and go forward.
He can't look back. He got to go forward, and
Old Miss the same thing. It was a nice run,
a nice ride from lank If and he decided that
he found somebody better. You got to let him go,
and you got to focus on helping Pete Gold and
have a higher level of success that Lane enjoyed while
he was there.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
No doubt about that, okay. And speaking of coaches to
speaking about coaches going, I mean this to me is
like a horror story. Today, the steel is a playing
in the Ravens. Both teams are six and six, But
the big story surrounding this game right now is the
coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers and Mike Tomlin and people
fans obviously, but now these former players want them out.
Do you take a listen to what James Harrison had
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to say about Mike Tomlin. Let's hear this.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
And as much as I hate to say this, I
have never been a person that thought Coach Tomlin was
a great coach. I thought he was a good coach,
and I'll be honest. Part of that is because when
I was slated to be the starter when Joey left,
he drafted one and two outside linebackers and I was
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actually behind one of them for a minute. Okay, well,
but right now, we have coaches on this staff and
that's it. And when I say coaches, I'm saying this
as a coach is someone that tells you what to do,
and it doesn't matter if what they're telling you to
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do is right or wrong. That's what a coach does.
And we have coaches. Okay, A good coach gets you
to play to your potential. And right now, the players
we have on that team I have seen play. I
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know they can do it. I have seen them do it,
and they're not playing up to their potential.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Amazing, I mean, I'm hearing this. I don't like when
former players bang and pounce on current situations right now.
Sometimes it's better off saying nothing. And Ben Roethlisberger is
another one who pounced on my tom And let me
just say this about Mike Toman. He's about fifty three
years of age, one hundred and eighty nine regular season wins,
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eleven most in NFL history, and during his nineteen years
with the Pittsburgh Steelers, a WINNI percentage of sixty two
point five, the best in franchise history. I never had
a losing season, all right, Your coaches or only is
and I never coached. But coach is only as good
as the talent they have. I think he's one hell
of a coach, and I think he's a Hall of
fame coach. And for players to disregard what he has
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done and to bang on him right now, I think
it's wrong. I think it's just poor. I don't like it.
I think it's the wrong thing to do.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
I mean, like, I mean, two things can be true.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Once he can be a Hall of Famer, but he
also can be a guy that maybe is the end
of the line in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
We saw this happen with Andy Reid.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
We saw the Philadelphia Eagles grow tired of Andy Reid
despite his success.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
I think at the time he was let go, he
had led.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
The Eagles to five NFC championship games with Donovan McNabb
and had been a bit of the quarterback guru and
those things. When they separated, Andy Reid goes to Kansas
City and has in a dynastic run with the Kana
City Chiefs with three Super Bowls five Super Bowl appearances.
The Eagles have won two since Andy Reid parted, so
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it is possible for it to be a win win
situation at the end of this. I did read last
night that in March of next year, the Pittsburgh still
has have a tough decision to make. Mike Tomlin has
an option on his contract where they have to either
pick up the option for twenty twenty seven or he
can be a free agent at the end of twenty
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twenty six. So in essence, they don't have to fire him,
but they could allow him to coach as a lame
dunk and then at the end of that he could
become a free agent for either the Stillers to resign
or for the National Football League to have at him.
Maybe that's the situation that we see transpire. Coach out
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the last five games, they decide, hey, it's not good enough,
we not go pick up your option you coached this
last year here, or that invites other people to come
in and either trade for him or whatever. But yeah,
something's gonna happen with Mike Tomlin. I'm not saying he's
gonna be fired, but they're gonna have to make a
decision whether they double down on the coach he's been
the most successful coach in the history based on regular
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season win percentage, or they're gonna say, hey, we're gonna
try and find someone better. But this is what we
do know about the Pittsburgh Steelers. They believe in stability.
They've had a lot of success, but look the last
couple of years, it's been disappointed. This has been a
very disappointing year based on their expectations of what they
thought this year was going to be, going all in
and being a five hundred team. It's certainly not what
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it's still has signed up for.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
I believe they've only had three coaches since nineteen forty one,
so I think he's in pretty good shape that they're
not looking to make a change. But again, I don't
think it's fair to kind of pinpoint all the errors
and all the problems of the Pittsburgh Steelers. I'm like
tonind but that's what the coach does, and he's the
CEO of the organization that they do poorly, it's his
full That's the way it is it is.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Look, that's what it is.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
When you cash the big check and you have the whistle,
it all falls in your watch.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
You're responsible for.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
The product that takes place, and that even if you
say a I give my coaches autonomy to do whatever,
it comes back to you. So if the defense isn't playing,
regardless of whether you want to blame it or defensive
coordinator Tarol lost it, it comes back to Mike Tomley
because you allowed it to happen.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
If it goes to.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
The offense and Arthur Smith, doesn't matter if Arthur Smith
is going to play Mike Tomlin, you allowed it to happen.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
At the end of the day, they.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Hold the head coach accountable for the performance of the
team on the field. He has to fix it. He
has five games or whatever to fix it. They have
a chance against the Baltimore Ravens to go back to
first place. It is on Mike Towmland to determine how
the rest of this story plays out.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
You know, it's funny you mentioned something early on about
the Kurt Signitti situation and the fact that you know
he's putting pressure on other coaches in the college situation
because what he did. He came in and immediately took
them to the playoffs, and that puts pressure on other schools.
Like you talked about Matt Campbell. Now he's leaving on
Iowa State, he's going to Penn State. He better turn
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it around because Curt Signetti did it. I think there's
a situation maybe in the pros, the same situation where
Ben Johnson when he didn't Icago, I mean Caleb the quarterback,
he said it was a wastelam for quarterbacks, and now
all of a sudden the Bears. They may end up
in the super Bowl. You never know, So I think
the pressure there can create a swing, a snowball effect
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rolling downhill where owners and ownership say, well, look what
Ben Johnson did in a year. We got Mike Tomlin
here and it's the same stale situation. Maybe it's time
for a change. I think that could create pressure, don't
you think?
Speaker 3 (32:27):
No? It did. It's great pressure.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
When those guys jump right in and have a lot
of success, everyone's fan base wants to know why can't
we have what they're having. That's just a natural a feeling,
the natural emotion to have when you're looking at your.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Team in comparison to others.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
However, when we talk about established coaches, guys like Mike Tomlin,
you typically have the ebbs and flows in those things.
Here's the thing that makes it tricky for Mike Tomlin,
right because people love and Look, I've been one of
the biggest his biggest supporters in terms of he's never
had a losing season. They go to the playoffs every year,
but they haven't had a win since twenty sixteen. I'm
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not a mathematician, but it's twenty twenty five now, so
we're talking about ten years where.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
You haven't won a playoff game. That's really, really hard.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
And it reminds me of Marvin Lewis in Cincinnati, where
you can have this success, but people grow tired of
just getting to this point. Marvin went having many years
where he couldn't win, He couldn't get past the first round,
they didn't win the game, and the Bengals fans got tired. Now,
I will say this to me, Marvin Lewis is a
much better coach than Zach Taylor, much better, doubt, but
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Zach Taylor will get the credit because he got them
to a super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
That's just what it is. And So for Mike Toomland to.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Get what Joe I don't think Zach Taylor did.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
I think Zach Taylor.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Zach Taylor's a head coach, so he gets all the kudos.
Like I mean, it's the same thing. You can't separate him.
And the same thing for Mike Tomlin. If he wants
to quiet the noise, he has to be able to
get into the postseason, and he has to win some
games to at least silence some of the critiques that
are being the bars that are being lobbed his way.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Know that about that. We'll see what happens. I tell
you what, I think it's a big game for Pittsburgh today.
I think they're healthier than Baltimore is. But we'll see
what happens. I don't know if that means anything, but
I think that Pittsburgh's gotta win today. Even though Aaron
Rodgers play has one arm. Really, I don't think he's
entirely healthy. I don't think he's one hundred percent. But
we'll see what happens there. All right, He's Bucky Brooks.
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Speaker 2 (34:47):
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So it's time, Brandon, Are you ready for ass Bucky?
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yeah, I am that a question? You got a question
for it?
Speaker 3 (35:04):
I do? I do?
Speaker 10 (35:05):
I have a few questions. I think the first one
is something you touched on earlier. But what do you
think is the worst scenario in terms of backlash for
the committee? Because there's really no good scenario you put
in Notre Dame. It doesn't you know value that had
Toad you put in. You leave Bam out. No one
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wants to play in championship games. I want to hear
your thoughts on that.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
I would say that.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
I would say the worst case scenario would be to
leave Miami out and put Notre Dame in just because
it diminishes to hit the hit factor. What's the point
of playing the game on the field if you don't
get the benefit for being the victor.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
So to me, that would be the worst.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
The rest of them are subjective and you can kind
of dance around it, but the hit to hit on
the field, yeah, you can't avoid that one. If I
am Miami and I dominated Notre Dame, I should get
the benefit of dominating them and go over top of
them if all things are tied up.
Speaker 10 (36:04):
One hundred percent. I also think we have to know too,
like the CFP might want to put an acc team
in just so they don't get you know, the conference.
Obviously they would they would have a temper tantrum if
they don't get one team in. I think the next
question I wanted to say is more relevant to something
happening in the new IIL era. But Ty Simpson was
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a quarterback prospect in the twenty twenty sixth draft. Now
it's a week draft and he might come back to school.
The issue with that is, and I think a lot
of schools are going with that are having this issue. Rather,
is Russell Keelan Russell, who is the second overall prospect
in the twenty twenty five class would transfer probably if
ty Simpson goes back to school in US. He is
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the same problem with Mayava and Hassan Longstreet. I wanted
to ask your thoughts on that and how colleges should
approach those situations.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Well, you got to pay both of them. You gotta.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Ifigure got a way to pay both them, you got
to keep one around. You got to keep both of
those guys around because if not, it's always musical chairs
at the position. But if you're the coach, you always
want the guy who just played Ty Simpson just as
his first full season of playing as the starter. You
don't want d have to walk out the door, particularly
if he's coming back to college. It's gonna bounce somewhere.
So you got to find a way to pay both guys.
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But you have to be honest and if the backup
is going to leave, then so be it. That's why
you always have to be recruiting. That's just the game
and the life that we're in in college football. But
you can't let an established starter go unless you feel
confident that the backup is going to give you the
same kind of production or better production than he gave
you cool?
Speaker 2 (37:37):
All right? Is the Magic Man ready? Do you have
anything that Mark? Mark? Magicman? You got something for Bucky?
Not really, I was just listening to what they were
saying about stuff. But go ahead, go ahead, I got
something for him. Okay, let's talk about Odell Beckham Junior
was on the Pivot podcast the other day. He had
an argument. He said that a one hundred million dollar
contract wasn't enough for pro athletes to live on for
the rest of their lives. Could you please explain that
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to me? Maybe he's living in a different world. I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
Well, I think what he was doing was trying to
talk about it doesn't last a lifetime if you're not
really up on it. And so what he was trying
to do was give the scenario where everyone hears the
number one hundred million dollars, but then they don't hear Oh,
taxes take away forty percent of that, so it's sixty
million dollars, then other things. So he did a long dive,
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but people only heard that clip. And then he talked
about like being irresponsible with money and not saying that
he was broke, but being irresponsible for taking on all
of the family members, which is a very familiar tale
for a lot of athletes who talked about how they've
blown through cash because it's not just them, it's family
and everybody else linking into the cash. So, yeah, one
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hundred million dollars is more enough to live a lifetime on.
But what he was trying to do was to give
a honest depiction on how that money can go for
some athletes who have a lot of hangers on.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Got you Okay? Now that clear that. Let's talk about
the Dallas Cowboys for a second, and then wide receiver
George Pickens on the social media post he had his
response to criticism he received from Formal oll Pro cornerback
Richard Sherman. This was on the Prime Video broadcast Thursday night.
Sherman said Pickens looked quote uninterested and disengaged during the
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cowboys forty fourth to thirty loss to the Detroit Lions,
and George was not too happy about that.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
Yeah, So, I mean, here's what I would say about
George Pickens because I saw the shot that he took
at Richard Sherman. Richard Sherman really gave an honest assessment
because George Pickens didn't play well in that game. He
looked a little lethargic, lacka day's ago going to the
ball and didn't give the effort. And what it did
is that performance played into the narrative that accompanied him
when he went from Pittsburgh to Dallas that he was
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inconsistent in. How could you hang your hopes on someone
because at the time, I remember, we were talking about
George Pickens being paid and maybe he may end up
being a thirty five to forty million dollars wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
He didn't show that.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
He took a shot at Richard Sherman talking about his
days of San Francisco, but didn't realize Richard Sherman still
earned another off pro and went to another Super Bowl.
So I think the players today have to just eliminate
and not listening to all the noise on the outside
because they're very sensitive to criticism. They don't like t
get any criticism at all. And so it's just one
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of those things where, man, if you fire off and
give an honest critique, it always comes back where it
becomes personal.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
It's weird.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Okay, I got one quickie for you. Now, Why is
the college football portal open during their playoffs? Don't get it.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
Because college football is stupid and they don't have any leadership.
They need a commissioner, they need someone who make sure
that the timelines all match up. All of this is
stupid and they could be better done, but they've been
able to get away with it for so long.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Did it never change?
Speaker 11 (40:43):
It?
Speaker 3 (40:44):
There we go?
Speaker 2 (40:45):
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man of the hour, Bucky Brooks. How are you buck
another football day?
Speaker 3 (41:34):
Man? I'm good. That's everything, and.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Everything is good. I got a couple of questions. I
want to throw you away because I know you have
the answers. Number one, how surprised were you with this
Matt Campbell move from Iowa State to Penn State? And
I mean that was kind of kept under the rug
a little bit to the eleventh hour. I mean, didn't
hear much about Matt Campbell leaving.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
Yeah, a bit surprised only in terms of he's been
an Ioways State for so long. He's done such a
good job of building them up, like the most successful
coach in Iowa State history. Just a long I guess
ride or journey before Penn State was able to get
to Matt Campbell. You would think that if Matt Campbell
was gonna be the guy, you'd been able to wrap
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this up sooner, because, look, he is a good coach.
He has been a name that has kind of been
in the line light for a while.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
In terms of some of these bigger jobs.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
Just surprised that it's a Penn State a while to
get to him, But I do believe it ends up
being a good hire. He's a really good coach. He's
done great things wherever he's been. You would assume, with
more resources an opportunity to have better players, that he
would do great things at Penn State.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
No doubt about that. But don't you think that there
are other coaches ahead of him on the list that
they went for and they just either yeah right, okay.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
Yeah, I mean, and that's tough.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
I mean, look, no one wants to be the second, third,
fourth choice, But it doesn't matter. Once you get the gig,
it's on you to do with it what you will.
He has an opportunity to make this a great gig
by taking the players that he gets, that he brings
in in elevating this program. Now, the standard is high
because what's going to happen. All of the disdain from
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James Franklin is going to go away, and all of
a sudden, Matthew Campbell is going to be compared to
the things that James Franklin did. So all those top
ten finishes, to ten win seasons, all of those things,
those things are going to be the floor for what
they expect from Matt Campbell. So he has to understand
what the expectations are and get that team to go
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to another level.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Okay, Now, I remember when Matt Campbell coached the University
of Toledo. That's when I first met him. And now
a story comes out the other day which I couldnot
understand this whatsoever. Jason Candell the coach of Toledo, he
left to go to Yukon. What kind of move is that?
Why would you go to Connecticut? And let's he as
family there. Other than that, I have no idea why
to go from Toledo and then Matt conference to Connecticut.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
Well, I mean, Connecticut is a little bit of a
bigger job.
Speaker 4 (43:54):
You may have more resources, a different thing, and maybe
it's a different channel challenge. You know, you, Jason Candall,
you want to see if you can do it elsewhere.
Jim Moore junior done a really good job at Yukon
back to back nine win season. So you have a name,
you have a profile. You can use the success of
the basketball team men's and women's to heighten the profile
to get into more rooms in terms of recruiting, and
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then you have a chance to elevate it and take
it even higher. Look, you kind of had success throughout
his time at various stops.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
Randy Etzel has success for a while.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
And then Jim Moore junior, this is an opportunity for
him to elevate the program. So I can understand why
you want to leave Toledo, get out the MAC and
see if you can do something elsewhere.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
Ah, I hear you. And last but not least, I
mean to talk about how crazy the college landscape is
right now. And look, I'm not one of those guys
as opposed to change, but you know, sometimes change isn't good.
And I think some of the things that we mentioned,
the fact that the portal is open during the playoffs,
that's just plain stupid, it is. But the University of
Georgia and the athletic department, they're going to court right now.
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They want to obtain fridge at ninety thousand dollars in
damages from a former standout defensive end who transferred from
Georgia after his sophomore year, and they want to get
the money back. I guess they gave him an nil money.
I mean, it's unbelievable. I mean it's almost like pro football,
it really is. And with contracts and il situations and
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you know who's getting the money. And you know, again,
I say recruiting used to be a situation where coach
are going to the living room of a home and
talk to mama and papa talked to the kid, this
was going to happen. No, now you got to go
with a checkbook. That's what it's all about.
Speaker 4 (45:34):
Yeah, and this case is a bit of an landmark
case because what they're suing for, they're suing for future moneies.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
They didn't even pay him out the money that they're so.
Speaker 4 (45:44):
I think he had one payment of thirty thousand dollars,
but they're suing for.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
Three hundred and ninety k.
Speaker 4 (45:49):
They're suing for everything that was the entire contract, which
is unprecedented. And what it would do it would begin
to tie players to the programs that did originally signed
to and commit to, giving the large sums of money
that you would have to pay back if you depart it.
So it'd be interesting to see how this one plays
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out because it would be a way because you're hearing
some senators and politicians legislate they don't like what's happening
in college football and college basketball, the bouncing around and
players getting money, it would be a way to act
some control to that.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
So if you're free labor. In terms of free enterprise,
people having the ability to move around.
Speaker 4 (46:30):
You won't want this to go because what it's gonna do,
it's gonna restrict how people move around in the college landscape.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
Okay, now I want to talk about something close to
the home for you, because we want to talk about
your Jacksonville Jacks. They're eight and four and they're hosting
the Indianapolis Colts and they're eight and four as well.
And is it a time right now for the Colts
to take a deep breath, take a step back, and
maybe worry a little bit about Danny Dimes, the quarterback.
They lost to the Chiefs twenty three to twenty. But
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in that game, the Colts led in the fourth quarter
by a score of twenty to nine. And in back
to back games, Danny Jones, their quarterback against Pittsburgh and Atlanta,
was sacked twelve times. All right, And also the good
news for you with the Jags, their quarterback Sauce Guard
that he's out. So I think that the seams are
beginning to split a little bit in Indianapolis, Am I correct?
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I mean, they were the darlings of the league, but
right now things are changing a little bit of Indy.
Speaker 4 (47:26):
Yeah, I mean, like, I think a couple of things
with the Indianapolis Coast, Like they're reaching the tough stretch
of the season where they're playing some of these heavyweights,
and they're doing it with a quarterback that's compromised with
an injury. Daniel Jones has a fiblic injury that will
take away some of his ability to.
Speaker 3 (47:42):
Kind of move around and do some of the things
that he did earlier.
Speaker 4 (47:44):
But the other part is the more the Coasts have
put on tape, the more teams are able to adjust
to what they want to do. And if you really
look at the Coast, the Coats are led by Jonathan Taylor.
When Jonathan Taylor gets going, that's when they're at their
most explosive.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
He is terrific.
Speaker 4 (48:01):
He is averaging over one hundred yards rushing yards per game,
and so you have to contain him to slow them down.
So if you contain him and put the game on
Daniel Jones, he's still not quite the guy that can
carry the team consistently on his right arm, and teams
are trying to take that away and they're trying to
put more on them, and he struggled with turnovers the lady.
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He's been inconsistent, So it'd be interesting to see how
Shane Stiken finds a way to alleviate the pressure on
Jones while also having the counters to deal with how
teams are gonna play Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Right, And I got this stat just for you that
Jonathan Taylor has rushed for over seven hundred yards against
your Jacksonville Jacks, just to let you know.
Speaker 3 (48:42):
Are you looking?
Speaker 4 (48:43):
Yeah, I am, But then I could throw another stat
at you that the Indianapois coach haven won down in
Jacksonville in years almost a decade, So I mean it
goes back and forth. The thing about it is, as
I look out the hotel window and I'm looking at
this rain come down, whatever it is that you think
is going to happen may not happen because it's gonna
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be playing in the middle of a mon sooner and
I'm not happy about it.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
You know, I'm really glad you mentioned that, because you
know what, I thought about this the other day, and
I don't do a lot of thinking because I don't
have much between my years. Okay, that's number one, but
number two, you talking about the rain coming down and
the elements. There's such an advantage in the National Football
League that teams that play in a dome that there's
no outside elements that bought. Like today Cincinnati is going
to Buffalo and the predict they want the three ages
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of snow. It's got to affect the game. No, I
love watching those games on TV when you can't even
see the lines in the fields covered with snow. But
you don't think that there's an advantage playing in a
dome situation that has to be I mean, really, I
mean Peyton Manning when he let when he left Denver
to go to Indianapolis, I think that that saved his
career at the end. Really, I mean, don't you think
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playing indoors? And I just look, I get it. Football
is very similar in the sense that it's one hundred
yards long and we're thirty three and the third yards wide.
Every field's the same, So why shouldn't be every field
the same as far as elements? And it's not that way.
I get it. Maybe it's for fan comfort. Maybe they
do more so for fan comfort than the players. I
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don't know, but I just don't think it's fair. I
really don't.
Speaker 4 (50:14):
Well, it's fan comfort, and what you're saying is an
advantage in the dome. I would counter and say that
the teams that are playing outside in elements have a
greater advantage because if you're a team that is not
used to playing in the coal, playing in the snow,
playing in the mud or the rain, that's a huge
advantage for a team that practices and lives in that
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environment daily. In a dome, anybody can play in a dome.
That's like playing in the hotel room. We can just
line up and the ball down and go play. But
if you're playing outside and I'm telling you the as
ten degrees with thirty five mile wind gusts, that's a problem.
That's one of the advantages that the Cincinnati Bengals have
had in the past. I think back to way way
back when they played the Chargers in their little icy bowl,
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like the little little thing and Dan Fous and those
guys couldn't get going way way back.
Speaker 3 (51:01):
I mean, it's an advantage if you have a good team.
Speaker 4 (51:05):
If your team is good, the ross is good and
you get the benefit of having some favorable weather conditions. Yeah,
it's an advantage, But in the dome it allows you
to play fast and if you build the team for
the Dome, a fast team with a quarterback that can
sling it in those things.
Speaker 3 (51:19):
Yeah, I mean you have some.
Speaker 4 (51:21):
Advantages that you can create, but it's different than playing
outside in the web.
Speaker 2 (51:24):
Okay, but I'm gonna throw a wrench in that thing
that you just said. Okay, maybe an advantage because they
played in that. I think it's a disadvantage for free
agency because if I'm a free agent and I got
a chance to play in Miami or Green Bay, I'm
going to Miami. I don't want to go to Green Bay.
I don't want to go to Buffalo. I don't want
to play in those outdoor tundras. I don't want to.
Speaker 3 (51:41):
You know, it makes you feel a lot better when
it's nice and cold. A bed full of cash.
Speaker 4 (51:46):
So if I can lay, if I can lay on
a water cash, I'm not worried about all that other stuff.
Speaker 3 (51:51):
I'm not worried about all this stuff you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (51:53):
I can go to Miami on vacation if you pay
me enough, so I'll deal with the elements in those things.
If the money is significant different, I'm going to chase
the cast.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
Okay, you got me. You got me on that. You're right,
And if I do the same thing, yeah, I could
suck it up for the cast, no doubt about that.
Now I want to talk about Bucky Brooks, not the player,
not the coach, not the scout, not the TV star,
but the NFL dot com rider. And you wrote this
this week and I loved it. Said, forty seasons ago
to Chicago Bears destroy the New England Patriots in Super
Bowl XX, which is twenty not that smart. I had
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to look that up. It's twenty. Could we be looking
at a rematch this February both the number one seeds.
I mean, it's amazing, really because today the Bears are
nine and three and they're playing at the Packers eight
three and one, all right, and these are two staunch back,
history laden teams in the National Football League, and they
both play outdoors, which I love that. But I'll tell
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you one thing, that tie that the Packers have is
going to bite them in the rear end when it
comes down to the end of the season. I'm sure
it's going to be, really so we'll see what happens
in that game. Now, So about the Bears, They've rushed
for at least one hundred and seven the yards in
fear of the last five games. Last week at two
eighty one against the Eagles, this is coulda be a
not out game today. Tell me a little bit about
the Bears. Are they for real? Tell me about them?
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Because they got these takeaways all the time. What's going
on with them? How do they change?
Speaker 3 (53:11):
Yeah, yeah, I would say they're for real.
Speaker 4 (53:13):
I would say they they're for real because Ben Johnson
has implemented a scheme that mixes a little physicality with pizaz.
They are an old school running team, but they do
it in a very, very creative way. You'll see all
kinds of motions, shifts, blur motions, orbit, run arounds and
things that really test the eye discipline of the defense
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while really coming down hell with an old school run game.
Then on the outside in the passing game, they gonna
spread you round. They can create some mismatches. They gonna
isolate your defenders to make easy tosses for Kayleb Williams.
And I'm gonna say this, Caleb Williams hasn't played great
by the numbers. You know, he's completing less than sixty
percent of his passes. However, he's done a better job
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of managing the game and avoiding the big mistakes that
plagued his game as a rookie. The Bears are are
a really good team because on defense they take it
away and they give their offense extra opportunities. So there
was a lot of conversation when Ben Johnson took the job.
He made some shots. He took some shots at Matt
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Lafleour in the Green Bay Packers. So now this is
when the tax comes due. This is when the bill
comes due. If he's gonna beat mouthy pants, he has
to be able to show up and deliver against a
Packer team that has dominated the Bears in this series.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
Okay, Now, the Bears team has ten takeaways over the
last five games in the five game winning streak. And
I don't think it's a coincidence. I mean, and you
play the game, so you know this. I see the
Bears on defense always trying to punch the ball out
of an offensive player's hands. Okay, is that something they
teachers an instinct? How does that work? Is that a
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drill that they go through punching the ball out?
Speaker 3 (54:51):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (54:52):
Emphasis, So the people people will give a lot of
credit to old school Bear legend Charles Tillman Peanut Tillman
as the call it for the peanut punch.
Speaker 3 (55:01):
He was a master of knocking the ball out.
Speaker 4 (55:03):
And the one thing that everyone would tell you, every
coach would tell you, the number one deciding factor in
football games is the turnover battle. If you win the
turnover battle, you typically win the game.
Speaker 3 (55:13):
In the league.
Speaker 4 (55:13):
That's why there's such an emphasis on knocking the ball loose,
picking it off, trying to find a way to create
turnovers because that's the easiest path to victory.
Speaker 3 (55:22):
In the league.
Speaker 4 (55:23):
They have done it better than anybody else. I think
they lead the league with seventeen interceptions, so they're always
around the ball.
Speaker 3 (55:29):
This is a really, really good.
Speaker 4 (55:30):
Team, and I think they've arrived much quicker than many
of us expected. You thought it might take a little
bit to rebuild and repair the Bears, but nope, Ben
Johnson jumped in and they look like an emerging heavyweight
in the NFC.
Speaker 2 (55:44):
Okay, coach of THEA for sure. I think Ben Johnson's
got it hands down. So you think, well, maybe Vrabel,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (55:50):
I mean, yeah, that's a tough one.
Speaker 6 (55:51):
Man.
Speaker 4 (55:52):
I would probably ought for raible because I think less
was expected of the New England Patriots, and here they
are the only eleven win team in the league.
Speaker 2 (56:00):
Okay, and you asked a question when you're on NFL
dot com, which team has the most immediate potential? Would
it be the Patriots or would it be the Bears.
Speaker 4 (56:08):
I think the Bears right now you have to lean
on only because like their veteran core, what they're able
to do running the football, how they've been able to
be explosive and dynamic in the passing game.
Speaker 3 (56:17):
I would lean on them now. I think in the postseason.
Speaker 4 (56:21):
The firepower or maybe some of the lack of firepower
for the Patriots might catch up with them. I think
their best position for the next five years, I would
say the Bears are best position for right now.
Speaker 2 (56:32):
Right and I think the Bears are going to beat
them in Green Bay today, I really do. I think
momentum means a lot, and they have some good momentum
going on right now.
Speaker 3 (56:41):
All right, there's a lot of talkie talkie.
Speaker 2 (56:42):
We'll see apparently what you don't agree, you think the
package got this one?
Speaker 4 (56:49):
I mean to me, the packers of the team that
will emerge as the Super Bowl favorite by the time
we get to the end of the season, their office
coming together, their defensive lights out.
Speaker 3 (57:00):
This is a big game though.
Speaker 4 (57:02):
To me, this would be one where we're gonna put
the big hat on Matt Lafloor. Hey Man, Matt la
Floor got personally challenged by a newbie coach, called.
Speaker 3 (57:12):
Out on the carpet in his initial presser.
Speaker 4 (57:15):
If you can't come up with a game plan to
torch the Bears, that's on you. So I'm expecting the
Green Beer Packers. They have a lot of emotion, a
lot of venom, but better yet, a lot of execution
as they kind of try and set the Bears straight.
Speaker 2 (57:27):
Okay, and we're going to talk about another team that's
in that division right now, and that's the Minnesota Vikings,
because I think everybody expected a lot of things with
that ball club because they won fourteen games last year.
But they allowed Sam Donald to leave in free agency
and they turned over to JJ McCarthy, a first round
pick in twenty twenty four, and he was on a
cheap rookie contract, and by doing so, I guess the
Minnesota Vikings freed up a lot of money, millions of
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dollars and they spent it on the rest of their rosters.
So what happens right now? They're foreign eight, they're fourign eight,
and they host the three and nine Commanders right now.
And the last time the Commanders won was on the
COVID the fifth this year. So the Vikings had five
turnovers and a loss to Seattle with four deceptions. And
that was a funny loss because who's quarterback in Seattle?
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Their former quarterback for Minnesota. So the miscalculation of the
Viking it was a dumb move. It really was. They dumb.
Sam Donald. They turned their JJ McCarthy. He was cheap.
They had money for the rest of the roster, and
they spent something a three hundred million dollars on new contracts.
Un last Sunday, Donald took it out on his former
team twenty six nothing over the Vikings. Vikings really they're
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not the same team with that. They're not. And Seattle's
nine to three, Vikings four and eight and Max Brosmer.
Can you believe that Max Brosmer was quarterbacking the Vikings
last week? It's amazing how the team went from fourteen
wins and not gonna make the playoffs this year.
Speaker 4 (58:50):
Yeah, I mean it's tough, but I think everyone is
romanticizing the Sam Donald thing. But I think when people
are filling to realize he melted down at the end
of the season last year, so everyone is saying like, oh,
you have to give him all this cash.
Speaker 3 (59:03):
They should have brought him back. It was a no brainer.
Speaker 4 (59:05):
He played horribly the last two games of the season
and the left for Mark. You know, you didn't see
him play well against Detroit in the finale, and then
he looked he stubbed his toe against the Rams.
Speaker 3 (59:17):
There wasn't a lot that you could take from that.
Speaker 4 (59:19):
And as well as this going for Sam Donald noll,
there's still a bit of wait and see from what
he's going to do when it matters, because when they
played the Rams earlier.
Speaker 3 (59:28):
He stunk. I mean, he just did. He's stunck against
the Rams. There's no respect for him.
Speaker 4 (59:33):
Maybe the Minnesota Vikings miscalculated and thinking that they would
be able to quickly get JJ McCarthy up to stump
after he set out his rookie season with an injury,
but look, they were gonna have to pay thirty five
thirty three million dollars for Sam Donald. And do you
believe that he was going to replicate that, because remember
that's the only year that he's ever done that. He's
a bit of a one hit wonder. I understand why
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people are mad. JJ McCarthy hasn't been available, and when
he has been available, he hasn't been consistent. Then, so
that gives you a little pause.
Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
But I don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:00:04):
If it was the wrong move to move on from
Sam Donald when he hadn't really proven that he could
be the long term answer at the position.
Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
But did you think that JJ McCarthy would be the guy?
I mean, really and truly I did.
Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
I mean, look, I I was a fan.
Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
I was a fan of JJ McCarthy coming out of Michigan,
but I didn't expect them to put the weight of
the offense on him. To be fair, he's only played
in six games. He missed his entire rookie season.
Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Before was before the fans wanted a bench anyway, But
he didn't play because he was injured. Okay, he had
two interceptions and thlew for just eighty seven yards. That
was two weeks ago before. He didn't play that game.
I mean, so I think they're a problem now. They
don't know who the quarterbacks could be well.
Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
I mean if they listened to the outside noise. If
you drafted J. J. McCarthy because you thought he was
gonna be good, then you don't waiver after six games.
You give him a full opportunity to show you that
he can or can't play. But six games it's too
soon to make a determination on whether a quarterback can play.
Typically it takes thirty games to know whether a quarterback
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can play. So this is going to be a test
of Kevin mccar, Kevin O'Connell and everybody in that organization.
Do you stand on what you believe in or do
you allow the people in the cheap seats to sway you?
Because if you listen to the people in the cheap seats,
you end up sitting in there with them.
Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
So you just got to be convicted.
Speaker 4 (01:01:25):
And you have to find a way to help this
young quarterback play better than he's played before. That is
on the coach. He has to ex and o it.
He has to figure out how to manage it. But
there's a way to get J. J. McCarthy to play
winning football.
Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
Oh see what happens there? All right? It's sad news
up there in Minnesota, But we move on, all right,
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course coming up in about ten to twelve now will
be the blame game. But right now, let's get into this.
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Let's get into the game that people are saying. Now,
if they had it in my backyard, I closed the curtains. No,
not really. There's a little bit of a storyline here.
They got the Titans one and eleven in Cleveland against
the Browns three and nine, and I guess the story here.
The hype here is Shador Sanders against cam Ward. What
happened to cam Ward this year? Number one draft pick?
You know, he was really quiet going into the draft
(01:03:25):
and he's been more quiet. Now, what's the deal? Is
he gonna make it? Is cam Ward going to be
an NFL quarterback?
Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
Uh? He'll make it.
Speaker 4 (01:03:33):
But like most young quarterbacks, I could take some time
to adapt to the league.
Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
And he lost his head coach.
Speaker 4 (01:03:39):
Early in the year, and he's been playing under interim
coach Mike McCarty Mike McCoy, and it hasn't it hasn't
gone well, but he's learned a lot through the reps
and the only thing that he can do is continue
to try and challenge himself to get better. And better
each week as they eventually supply him with more talent
around him. But right now, it's been tough and it's
been tough for him, just like all the other young
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quarterbacks are having a tough time figuring out how to
play quarterback in this league, no.
Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
Doubt about that. But the big story I guess in
Cleveland right now is Shadua Sanders, all right, And the
question I have is, Okay, you gout should do? And
I'm happy he's playing. He deserves it because there's no
one really better right now on the roster except except
Deshaun Watson. Where's Deshaun Watson? Because the Brown's opened up
Deshaun Watson's twenty one day practice window? And are we
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ever going to see him on the center again in
the future or this year? And I have not? Why not?
Because he probably could be their best quarterback on their
roster and the Browns have it until Christmas week to
activate him on the fifty three man roster and he
could then be activated for the final two games of
the year. Are they gonna do it? Should they do it?
Because who's a better quarterback on that roster than potentially
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Deshaun Watson?
Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
I mean no one. And here's what I'll say.
Speaker 4 (01:04:55):
In Cleveland fans don't want to acknowledge that because the look,
the Deshaun Watson thing has been a disaster from the jump.
When it comes to them trading with a bunch of
assets to bring them over, he hasn't performed well. He
got hurt, you had the scandal that came with him.
Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
All of that.
Speaker 4 (01:05:09):
That said, when you're the Cleveland Browns and you look
at the landscape, you look at what you have on
your roster, which is Shudura Sanders, Dylan Gabriel, young quarterbacks
trying to figure out. You look at the free agent
market that is coming. You have Mac Jones, you have
Daniel Jones, you have Tyrod Taylor and others. And then
you look at the draft, where you have Mendoza.
Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
And a lot of question marks.
Speaker 4 (01:05:33):
You might be left with Deshaun Watson as your best
option at quarterback. And people don't want to say this,
but if you look at what's available, he could be
the best option for the Browns and because of late,
he's been so instrumental in trying to help Shdurah Sanders
and Dylan Gabriel prepare.
Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
If I'm paying him.
Speaker 4 (01:05:53):
I might as well have him in the building and
around the team and see if he can give us
something With a new coach. We assume that they gonna
have a new coach, why not keep them around and
see if there's something that can be selvish.
Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
Do you think you mentioned new coach? I mean, I
think Stefanki is a heck of a coach, I really do.
I don't think it's entirely his full but sometimes you know,
coach has to go. Team's not winning, just just they
want to change. I mean, but I think he's a
good coach. The same thing goes to Minnesota. I think
he's a whale of a coach in Minnesota. But Stefanski's gone.
Is that you what you're hearing?
Speaker 4 (01:06:25):
I mean, I just don't know how you can bring
him back for the fans. I mean, I just know
how to Who's gonna sign up, Like I just said
in the previous segment, if you listen to the fans
or whatever. But the difference is we're in the sports
and entertainment business. Who is going to sign up to
see the Browns roll out and run this back with
Kevin Stefanski after two years in a row of bad ball.
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I just think it's a hard sale, you know. I
know he's a two time Coach of the Year and
those things. I just think it's a hard sale in Cleveland.
And I'll be honest, some of the weird old stuff
that is taking place in terms of not calling, not
calling by name, like all of this other stuff, I
think it's made it really really difficult to bring him
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back unless they go on a great run at the
end of the year. I still don't see it, though.
I think Kevin Stefanski has made it far harder than
it needed to be in Cleveland. Not only would the Shawn,
but we should him with everybody else that has played quarterback.
Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
There, all right, I hear what you say. Now, the
question is will we see Deshaun Watson play in the
last two games? Will they activated for the last two?
I think they should. I mean, he basically has to
be the future at quarterback for that team.
Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:07:36):
I don't know if they need to necessarily activate him
to playing games. I think it's more so you want
to see him in proud to see what he looks like,
see the field, let him get his feet wet before
he prepares to compete.
Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
For the job in the spring.
Speaker 4 (01:07:48):
He's the veteran presidence because I told you Daniel Jones,
Mac Jones, who mac Jones is on the trade market,
Daniel Jones, Tyrod Taylor, whatever. There is no one on
the market that's gonna come say you as a veteran
free agent.
Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
Nobody right, And I'm.
Speaker 4 (01:08:02):
Gonna tell you the twenty twenty sixth class that's special
to me. Like people are talking about Mendoz But when
I look at Mendoza last night, he's okay. I don't
think he's number one pick worthy based on what I saw.
He's a good college player. I don't think he's a
game changer coming into the league. So when you weigh
it against what the landscape is producing next year, you
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might as well keep him and see if he's a
better option than any of the ones that are gonna
come available.
Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
You talk about that contract, that contract was a major bust.
And I'll tell you what that contract did. It opened
the floodgates for all the quarterbacks in the National Football League.
So every quarterback right now that gets his paycheck should
thank Deshaun Watson because I'm the Cleveland Browns, because I
think that was the beginning of the quarterback quarter the
quarterback cash boom.
Speaker 4 (01:08:50):
Uh yeah, but what it should have been was the
guaranteed contract boom. But people didn't have the hangy downs.
Second time I've used that in our show to stick
with it. But they should have done that because when
Deshaun Watson got a fully guaranteed contract at quarterback, the
next quarterbacks that came after him should have all gotten
guaranteed contract and it should have been a thing where
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then you begin to see the shift where they go
from non guaranteed to fully guaranteed contracts at quarterback.
Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
Okay, I'm looking at the schedule today and I think
this could be one of the biggest games at least
for this team. And I'm talking about the Kansas City Chiefs.
The game is at home. The Chiefs believe it. Do
you think they'd be six and six after twelve games?
Speaker 3 (01:09:31):
I mean, really, I knew it was gonna be a
market correction.
Speaker 4 (01:09:33):
I didn't expect them to be what they've been in
terms of the heavyweight. At some point, age was gonna
get them with Travis Kelce, the lack of development on
the perimeter, their wide receivers not being what they wanted,
them to be that would catch up with them, and
it's called a haven't been Yeah, and they don't have
a marquee running back, and that is really the thing
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that I'm glad you brought up, but people don't bring up.
Speaker 3 (01:09:58):
I know, we think about running backs as being interchangeable, disposable,
whatever you want to call them.
Speaker 4 (01:10:02):
We can find them anywhere, but man, you have to
have a special one sometimes, particularly the way the league
is changing, they don't have anybody special.
Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
You know, I'm hearing you. They're hosting the use in
text that was said Dallas. The Houston text is seven
and five today, And you know it's funny. I like
to go on this website called US sports pages dot
com so I can read the sports pages of different
newspapers across the country, and a couple of writers have
written this, which I think is insane. But they said
it might be best for Kansas City to lose because
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they need to lose to get better draft picks. I mean,
I don't understand. I mean, I don't know what losing
does for you. But you know, draft picks to me
are a crapshoot. You know, you could have a high
draft selection and really bomb out on a player. Now
I'm looking at Cincinnati. That was a no brainer. I
could have drafted Joe Burrow. Anybody's gonna dravet Joe Borrow
the number one pick, but it's picks two through whatever.
(01:10:56):
You know that those are the keys, and sometimes they
don't work out. So to lose to get a better
draft pick, that's insane. You know, you just forget it.
You gotta win. You gotta win what he got and
do the very best you can and maybe go out
and get something in free agency.
Speaker 4 (01:11:12):
I mean they can do that, but yeah, they're gonna
have to hear the reset. They're gonna hear the reset button.
But they gotta find a way to improve. They've they've
committed resources to the offensive line, but they gotta find
a running back because a dominant running back will make
life easy for Patrick Mahomes. I would expect them to
see if they can do something to give them that
impact that they're lacking, because right now, Isaiah Pacheco has
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been hurt off injured, Kareem Hunt is nearing the end
of his line. They just don't have enough juice in
the backfield to change the way people will play against
Pat Mahomes. They can't punish them for playing soft coverage,
and until they're able to do that, they won't be
able to deliver the explosive plays and the fireworks that
we saw in the past.
Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
I am so happy you mentioned the running back position
because it's so it's such a position that people think
it's like a dinosaur, like the old full back position.
But you don't have running back, I mean, you're in trouble.
Certainly the quarterback is the key, but there running back
basically could eat up the clock, and especially in bad
weather when you really can't pass, it's a life saver.
(01:12:11):
And today you have a great running back in Buffalo
with James Cook, and they're hosting the Cincinnati Bengals, and
it kind of Bengals season is on the line every week.
They're four and eight. They lose today, their playoff situation
is done. Right now, the door is open. You can
almost see a shadow, but Bills are eight and four.
But you look at James Cook what he has done
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right now. He's got a career high with almost twelve
hundred rushing yards one hundred and two point three rushing
yards per game per game, ranks fourth in the Buffalo
team history, and he's now just a couple of touchdowns
away from tying Fred Jackson, which is thirty for the
fifth most touchdowns in Buffalo Bill's franchise history. I'm almost
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shocked how good he was. And I remember back in
August he was holding out. I was scratching my head, really,
James Cook holding out? Look, he's strong. I mean talking
about Jonathan Taylor, what he has done for the offense
in Indianapolis, I think you could raise that up another
notch with James Cook when he's done in Buffalo.
Speaker 4 (01:13:10):
Yeah, he's a great player, and they've done a really
good job of doubling down on the running game to
make sure that they can control the outcomes of games
and to mass their biggest weakness, which is their defense.
James Cook has been able to give them that inside outside,
big play back who also can catch it out the
backfield man.
Speaker 3 (01:13:26):
What's not to like about his game?
Speaker 4 (01:13:28):
Terrific player, and the more he becomes a factor on offense,
the better the Bill's chances are of making a postseason run.
Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
Right, I tell you what, I had no idea. He
talk about statistics, and I'm not a great statistical nump,
but when it stands you right in the face, you
got to say, Wow, I remembout Josh Allen. He has
now more total touchdowns in his first nine seasons. I
can't believe he's been there nine years already, in his
first nine seasons than any quarterback ever two hundred ninety
one touchdowns and counting. And he's still only in year eight.
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He's passed Russell Wilson. He's past Peyton Manning who had
two eighty eight and nine, and entering this year with
the most touchdowns by any quarterback through eight years in
league history. Wow, that is tremendous. Really, I mean, you
talk about the great quarterbacks in this league. I don't
think he gets the respect he deserves. I mean, and
maybe because I'm in the Midwest and you know, near
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Cincinnati with Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow to me and he
had a great deal list. Yeah, probably gets more accolades
than Josh Allen does.
Speaker 4 (01:14:29):
Yeah, but I think there's a greater appreciation with Josh
Allen now because we've seen him do the most with
the least. You know, when you remove Stefan Diggs from
the equation and you didn't really upgrade the wide receiver position.
You see a player who's really having to do it all.
And before we used to like rave about his running
skills and his ability to be the one man show.
But it's different now because he's being able to reign
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in some of the recklessness while still giving us that
that fearless playmaking ability that we love to see from
our quarterback as he carries the Buffalo Bills because we
know that he's playing shorthanded with the team that he has,
but as he carries them to victories, there's a greater
appreciation for him being that guy that can elevate the
people around him, no.
Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
Doubt about that. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Ferman. We
of Fox Football Sunday a Fox Pastradio. By the way,
it's never his fault. It's never her fault, is it?
Speaker 11 (01:15:21):
But the blame game is you're listening to Fox Sports
Radio on the blame Game coming right up.
Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Furman. We are live from
the Fox Sports Radio studios. By the way, top of
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eight o'clock of the East Coast. Mike harmon the Swollen
dorm and Greg Coast Cell will carry along right here
on Fox Butrstradio. But right now it's time for the
blame game. You ruin me.
Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
It's all your fault. No, it's your fault. But isn't
all your fault?
Speaker 9 (01:16:01):
Maybe it's everyone's fault, see the liar. That's why there's
the blame game.
Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
The blame game.
Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
Let's figure out who to blame. Yeah, the playing game.
Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
Are you ready, Brandon, They're blame game. We're gonna blame.
Speaker 10 (01:16:12):
You, blame you, blame me, blame me? Uh I, So look,
who's to blame here? Josh Allen wins MVP last year
with virtually the same wide receiver corps, virtually the same
his QBR is down thirteen points this year. Is it
just an MVP hangover?
Speaker 3 (01:16:31):
What is it?
Speaker 10 (01:16:31):
Who's to blame for this situation? Because Joe Brady is
still gonna probably get head coaching interviews.
Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
Uh, you want me to go first, because I got
the answer. It's very easy, it really is. It's not
that difficult.
Speaker 1 (01:16:43):
It's his wife.
Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
He just got married in the off season. He's got
different things on his mind right now. Blame his wife.
That's the problem. And they always say yes. They always
say there's always a good woman behind the strong man. Well,
you know what, though, she's brought him down. Maybe she's
a good I don't know. But when you get married
of additional responsibilities and Bucky, you're going to agree it's
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the wife. It's the marriage that bought his that's down.
Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
The wife to take his stats down. I would say
that it's the lack of production around him.
Speaker 4 (01:17:16):
It's the lack of development that Ken Coleman and some
others made on the perimeter that have robbed him of
his big playability.
Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
He's still effective, he's still great.
Speaker 4 (01:17:25):
I would say the people around him have not performed
up to the standard.
Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
Well, the one that's around him is his wife. She's
around him.
Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
I don't know. I saw her in Cinners. I would
think that he would be motivated to play better. Isn't
that worse? Well?
Speaker 10 (01:17:40):
Well, yeah, nine nine of the last ten Super Bowl
champions have been married the quarterbacks of those teams. The
check the stats, No, it's one hundred percent. And Jalen
Hurts got married the following month after that. Uh my
next one, quickly, who's to blame with Lamar Jackson then?
And is dropping QBR this year with the Ravens.
Speaker 3 (01:18:00):
Oh, they're just bad. I look, I think it's everything.
Speaker 4 (01:18:02):
I still am not in love with the design of
the offense from Todd Munkt the offensive coordinator, the receivers
and players are not being consistent. It looks it's a
total failure in Baltimore. If they don't win today, like
all bad in the charm City.
Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
Well, I think they could blame his injury. Fact. I mean,
he's not one hundred percent. I mean, none of these
guys this time of the year one hundred percent. But
he's really been banged up pretty good. So and I say,
back off, Brandon, really and truly. You know, you're the
new kid on the block. Take it easier. Lamar, he's
my guy. I love him. He's from Kentucky, he went
to the University of Louisville. I mean, come on, really,
I love Lamar Jackson. And that's the end of the story.
(01:18:41):
And they'll win today.
Speaker 10 (01:18:42):
Maybe eventually they'll win a Super Bowl too.
Speaker 3 (01:18:44):
That'd be great.
Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
Well, listen to you. That's a shot. Now, that's a shot.
Who's your team? What is your team done?
Speaker 10 (01:18:50):
My team has not done anything. And since I've been
alive in thirty years. It's the San Francisco forty nine ers.
Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
So thank you.
Speaker 10 (01:19:01):
I don't have anybody else to blame, all right, what's next?
Speaker 3 (01:19:05):
I don't know somebody to blame. There's to be somebody
to blame. We can blame Andy for always. Did you
know what, Andy?
Speaker 4 (01:19:14):
You didn't really bring up the Bengals today, which is
a rarity, like normally you bring up something with Joe
Burrow and the Bengals or whatever. Are you completely off
the Bengals prospects of being a playoffs people?
Speaker 3 (01:19:27):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
I can't talk about it because it makes my head spin.
You got people in this city right now thinking they're
going to go to the playoffs. They'd have to have
they have to win every game down the road. Number one,
Number two also get some help along the way. I
don't see it happening. It'll be a mono miracle. Really,
it really would be. They couldn't win today in Buffalo?
They played twelve on eleven? How's that? How's that?
Speaker 3 (01:19:48):
Wow? You know what? I'm knowing all that?
Speaker 4 (01:19:51):
I think they win in Buffalo today. I think they
win in Buffalo. They bring it back.
Speaker 3 (01:19:55):
I think I think you end up shouting in your
bathroom today. Who day who? They say they're gonna beat them.
Speaker 4 (01:20:01):
I think you're gonna dance around and do the Icky
shuffle because Joe Burrow is back and he's all they need.
Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
Well, I would say this, you know, and I've said
this to people before. They talk about, you know, Joe
Burrow being back. He was back last year. He had
a tremendous season a year ago, a baddest season really,
and they still don't make the playoffs. Okay, what I
don't like about, right, But I don't like what I'm
seeing this year. Trey Hendrickson, He's like, no way to
be found. You can't find the guy with a search warrant.
(01:20:30):
He doesn't even go to practice. He doesn't show up
in the sideline for games. He wasn't there two weeks ago.
Last week he was at the sideline for the game.
But what's the deal? You know, are they hiding the guy?
There's something going on with Trey Hendrickson. There's no doubt
in my mind. And I understand that he's not happy
with the contractual situation. Yeah, but come on, you're you're
a captain, You're a copter in the team.
Speaker 3 (01:20:51):
Well, yeah, I'm a captain.
Speaker 4 (01:20:52):
And I'm gonna give you exactly what captains do for
the money that you're paying me.
Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
And you're not giving me what I deserve.
Speaker 4 (01:20:58):
So you don't give me big time money, you don't
get big time effort, the effort.
Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
He doesn't even show up. I mean, it's not come on,
you got you gotta show up. I mean it's not right.
I just don't think it's right. I really don't. Here
we go anyway, have a great day, Brandon, Thank you
so much as always for your help, and we'll see
you next Sunday. Stay tuned for Krichellen Harmon on Fox
Sports Radio.
You're listening no Fox Sports Radio Radio.
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Oh baby, the fall out continues. That's coming right up.
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morning right here where on Fox Sports Radio. Of course,
they wonderful iHeartRadio app Now my guy Bucky Brooks, how
are you bucket? What a day yesterday? What a day?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Yeah, what a great day. What a great college football.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
That's why everyone who's a college football fan tunes in
great Day.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I tell you what, though, I watched the Indiana game,
and the first thing that came to mind after they
beat Ohio State thirteen ten, I'm thinking of Kurt Signetti.
Kurt Signetti interviewed for the University of Cincinnati football coaching
position back in twenty twenty two after Luke Fickle left
to go to Wisconsin and the athletic threat the University
of Cincinnati. John Cunningham was not interested because quote he
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lacked power for experience and highed Scott Siderfield. Instead. Take that,
John Cunningham, take what do you think John Cunningham was
thinking when he's watching Indiana play all season long and
beating up on Ohio State yesterday thirteen ten, unbelievable experience.
This guy's a coach. You could coach pee wee high school, junior,
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high school, you know, college, If you got it in
you you're a coach.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
I mean, yeah, I understand that, Like I can understand
some of the skepticism. Even though Kirk Signetti's long track
record of success. There is a jump from James Madison
to Indiana. When you're talking about Indiana team that had
never wanted I mean, had oney, big tenses, whatever, sixty seven,
a team that doesn't have a lot of success. I
thought it was the graphic on Fox last night's second
(02:16):
most losses in FBS history. I can understand why you
might be skeptical on taking someone like that. However, when
you go back and you deep diaper, dig a little
deeper into his pass, you see the Nick Saban connection,
you see other things that he learned along the way. Yeah,
like he's having a success that I don't think anyone
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can envision, but good for him. Sometimes people can't see
your vision before they have before it happens.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
All right, Indiana, right now, it's thirteen in oh Ohio.
State goes to twelve and one, the first loss of
the year, the first outright title for all Indiana since
nineteen forty five. So the question I have before we
get into this game and pull a curtain back a
little bit for Nando Mendoza, we looked at the Heisman
Trophy as a quarterback trophy, and obviously is Fernando going
to win the Heisman from that game yesterday, Is he
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the Heisman winner?
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Yeah, He's gonna win the Heidsman because I think this
is a year where no one has really distinguished themselves.
I think the story in terms of Indiana's rise to prominence.
I think his story in terms of like how he's
handled the press, that the more people learn about him,
the more they fall in love.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
With the story. I think he's going to win it.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
I think what's gonna be interesting is not only him
winning the Heisman, but the conversation about him potentially being
the number one overall pick.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
That's gonna be a fascinating one to.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Me, unbelieve. Now, now, the buck guys had a chance
to take the lead on fourth and one on the
Indiana five yard line. That was like late in the
third quarter. Then they had that replay and the review
overturned the call on the field saying that Julian's saying
the quarterback for Ohio State came up short for the
first down possibility, and they had a chance to tie
with the Tighter scored about two and a half minutes
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to play in the game, but Jaden fielding missus twenty
nine yard field goal. What do you think this kid's
feeling right now? Twenty nine yard field goal almost a
chip shot really, but obviously in front of that crowd,
the pressure, I'm sure it got to to some extent
because I'm sure he could kick a twenty nine yard
field goal. What a mask on?
Speaker 4 (04:15):
I mean, yeah, I'm pretty sure something that he makes routinely.
You're talking about a little more than an extra point,
and he just was unable to get it done. And look,
your heart breaks for him because you love to see
people perform under pressure. You don't want to see anyone
hurting or feel the way that the fan base come
down him. But at the end of the day, you're
Ohio State. You have more than enough opportunities to win
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that game. The fourth and one that you decided to
go with, Julian says didn't go doesn't go your way.
You could have kicked the field goal to tie it DN,
assuming that he makes it. You come down. You had
ample opportunity to win the game and you're unable to
do so. So as much as my heartbreaks for the kid,
I have to give a lot of credit.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
To Indiana for making the plays that were dead to
be made.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
All Right, We talked about Mendoz that possibly winning the
Heistchan Trophy, but honestly, you know that trophy going to quarterbacks.
But it's very difficult for me to say he's an
outright winner because what won that game yesterday for Indiana
was defense, not the quarterback as much as the defense.
Two things in my mind won the game for Indiana.
Defense and ball control. They just kept on keeping that
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ball away from Ohio State, and the defense was tremendous
and that won the ball game for him.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
I mean, yeah, I mean, I think both teams wanted
to play the same way.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
They wanted to dominate possession.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
They wanted to limit the opportunities that the opponent had
because both offenses were fairly explosive. And in this one
Indiana and Dan Lanning said this to Oregon coach when
they played Indiana, man about his well coached team, as
you're going to play, and in watching that game, they
look well coached. And the way I judge that is
just look at how they execute the assignments and are
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they consistent in terms of the way that they play.
Indiana was very consistent in terms of you could see
what the game plan was, you could see the things
that they were asking their players to do. You and man,
they did him at a high level. I guess the
team that everyone in regards as the most talented team
in college football, they limited them. And you are right
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to give the credit to the defense. They didn't give
up the big plays. They kept Carneal Tate and Jeremiah
Smith and Bo Jackson under wraps for most of the
day and they were able to win it. I mean,
it is a terrific performance. In general, Mendoza is gonna
get a lot of the credit, right, He's gonna be
the Heisman Trophy in those things. But I'm gonna tell you, man,
Indiana's success is due to the entire team, not just
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to one person, no doubt about that.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
And honestly, you know, I look at that game and
a change. I mean, who would have thunk that Indiana
of all teams. I mean, look, I know what he
did last year. I didn't think And I watched the
pregame show on Fox. Everybody, to a man when they
had that pindle out there, no one picked Indiana. Everybody said,
Ohio State's coulda win the game? I guess you know
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they would have the favorites to win that game. I'm sure,
but I looked at the penalty. Even on our own guy
Brady Quinn, he he picked Ohio State. They all picked
Ohio State. I'm saying, wow. I mean, you know, don't
bury them that quickly. They're not that bad. I mean
they and they came back and they won the ball game.
That was amazing. It really was.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
But I mean I understand why everyone would pick Ohio State,
like everyone anyone around college football would ta you. It's
the most talented team in football. They're gonna have maybe
four first round picks from in this year's draft alone.
They got two of the top wide receivers in the country.
The quarterback was a big time recruit who transferred from Alabama.
Offensive line is terrific, defensive line or whatever, all those things.
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And they're coming on the heels of winning a national
title a season ago. So you think the championship pedigree
and all that's going to play in their favor, it
makes sense to pick Ohio State. And for Indiana, let's
be honest, we saw them be Oregon. But there's still
a little bit of that hangover from last year when
we saw them having their opportunity in the big stage
against Notre Dame and they got molly wopped. And so
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sometimes you don't believe until you see it. And now
you're more likely to believe in Indiana as a number
one team because they have this victory under their built.
Now you believe that they are with the heavyweights and
they're won the big time.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Guys, there you go.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I do believe that. We have some comments from the
Indiana quarterback Fernando and uh, let's hear what he has
to say.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
We want to give all the glory to gone.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
We're never supposed to be in this position. Be by
the glory Golle. The great coach is great teams. I'm
around us school.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
We were able to pull this off.
Speaker 6 (08:31):
Whoever go to hoos would be here for now, the
Hoosiers or flipping champs.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Let's go.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
You guys call yourself a bunch of misfits who found
the right home at Indiana.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Why was this the right place.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
For this group?
Speaker 6 (08:43):
Is the right place for process orangein We're going.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Day by day?
Speaker 2 (08:46):
What is abitalan?
Speaker 6 (08:47):
The defense, the coaches, special teams, we're all prozes orangin
to one goal. That's our thing is we're brothers. We
can drag teams to the defense because we know that
we're gonna stick together and we're the strongest glue ever.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
But amazing and brothers. After that first play, I saw
Mendoz's brother come in there because it looks like he
may have been out for the game. I don't know
exactly what happened. He got hit pretty hard on that play,
Fernando did.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
He did get hit pretty hard.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
And maybe that's why it sounded like an infomercer for
Indiana football.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
When he was being interviewed. Every cliche that the coach
has ever uttered.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
In a in a team meeting, he certainly was willing
to say.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
But give them a lot of credit.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
And I think people have to understand, like all of
the coininess behind Kirk Signetti some of their players in
terms of their talking, beneath that is a true self belief,
a belief in the process, a belief in the program
and what they're talking about, and they have it on
And I would say Signetti will be kind of the
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post a child for the quick turnaround, because what Indiana
has done has led all of these rabid fan bases
to believe that their team should turn around instantly.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
When a coach gets there now.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
He brought half of his squad from JMU there.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
But it doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
People are going to say Indiana haired a new coach
and immediately the first year they went to the College
Football Playoff. The second year they won the Big Ten
and they're the number one seed in the playoff.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
We want that type of thing.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
So for the seats of Lane Kiffin and Matt Campbell
and some of these other people that went to big jobs,
Indiana is going to be used as the floor, not
the ceiling. So he made Kirk Signetty made a lot
of people's jobs a little tougher last night.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
And I'd love to see the nil payroll from Indiana
as opposed to Ohio State. I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
No, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
If you go and look, I think they've said, like
one of the it's the top ten endowment size in
terms of that alumni base instructure, Indiana has far more
money than anyone ever could anticipate. That's why Kurt Signetti
was never leaving there. There's a lot of money it
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is up there. When it comes to the level of endowment,
the alumni base and the money that they give back
to that university.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Interesting okay.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
But now moving on from Indiana, we got some bubble
problems over here because we have three teams with ten wins, Alabama,
Notre Dame of Miami, and they all say, hey, we
belong in the playoffs. So what's happening today today? I'm
glad I'm not on that committee. I couldn't live with myself,
really and truly, because you don't know. You got the
Crimson time, the fighting Irish, the hurricane BYU. They came
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out of the conversation, yes, thinks they got a twenty
seven point loss to Texas Tech. That was the Big
twelve championship game and the opening buys, I guess are
going to go to Indiana, Ohio State, Georgia and Texas Tech.
That's it right there, so that I know for sure.
Other than that's kind of wide open. Let's discuss this deal,
Miami versus not Ja Dame. Who's going to get in there?
You got to say, head to head, Miami beat not
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You Dame. Back in September, what happens now? What does
the committee do?
Speaker 4 (12:04):
I mean, if Miami and Notre Dame squared off on
the field, Miami has to get the NOD.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
I mean That's just what it is.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Otherwise, why play the game If Miami doesn't get the
benefit of knocking off Notre Dame. Why would I play
a heavyweight in the future if I don't get the
benefit from it. So Miami has to go in over
Notre Dame. No matter what people talk about the eyeball
test or whatever, the thing that we did see. We
saw those two teams play and we saw Miami win.
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So Miami has to be rated over top of them.
The question that you can have is does Alabama deserve
to be in. I know they made it to the
championship game, and it's not fair to go to a
championship game and penalize the loser. Even though it's the
second time they matched up with Georgia, they beat them
one and lost to whatever. I would say that of
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those three, Alabama would be the team that.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
You get left.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Alabama has three losses, But then the argument would be
where they shouldn't be penalized for that, and that would
leave Notre Dame out.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
If you want to leave a president, then you leave
Notre Dame out.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
And it would be hard because the brand. It would
be hard because of the brand. But if you go
through it. Miami beat Notre Dame, and Alabama went to
the conference championship game.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Notre Dame does a plan a conference. They don't.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
They chose to be independent, so you have to penalize
them in that situation.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
But there's one other thing. Obviously, Alabama, as you mentioned,
had three losses, but one of those losses was a
double digit loss to Florida State, which is five and seven.
That's the dagger that's gonna kill Alabama right there.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Yeah, I mean, look, it's certainly dead hurts. That does hurt.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
And if you talk about Notre Dame's losses, their losses
are better than the losses that Alabama had because you
throw into Florida State thing. They lost the Texas and
m and they lost to Miami, two teams that are
going to be in the playoff.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
That is a thing.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
You better pull out the computer sheets because it's gonna
be a long day to day trying to justify what
is happening with all of this. And I'm gonna say this,
and I know you sometimes love the little guy, the underdog,
but I'm gonna say this, Tulane and JMU being in
the playoff, can't say that I'm excited about seeing those.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Two teams in the playoff.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
If they go James Madison University goes in Sunbuilt, they
represent their conference champion and those things. Cannot say that
I'm excited about seeing them play one of the heavyweights.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
It is a nice story, but I.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Look, if we're talking about twelve best teams, yeah, yeah,
And I've said this, this playoff is all messed up.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
There should be a big Boy Trophy and a little
Boy Trophy.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Where they all can play and light universities can play
against each other and we celebrate everybody as champions. But yeah,
I can't say that I'm really excited about that.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
And more than that, you talk about those two teams
JMU going there, perhaps they're talking about maybe Duke with
five losses. And more than that, I'm not forgetting about Vanderbilt,
I think, and they both should go over those those
other outside schools. The jm us. Really, I think Vanderbilt
is gonna ti get screwed.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Right, No, No, done that. Vanderbilt then get screwed. They
gotta win. Look, they gotta win the thing. Yeah, ten wins,
that's great.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
But if you're gonna talk about Vanderbilt, then you have
to talk about Texas because that's how Texas beat Vanderbilt.
Like then goes down to cannon warms, like if we're
going to say it, and we're gonna say, like the
conference championships have to mattering those things cool conference champions go.
But I do believe there should be a group of
five champion and there should be a power for champion
because then you're dealing with like schools versus like schools.
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I just don't think the novelty of the David and
the Goliath is going to play out the way that
we think is gonna play out when they get to
the field.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Okay, you talk about Texas right now, Texas is three
and two against top fifteen teams. Okay, and two of
those three losses came on the road against Ohio State
and Georgia. Okay, they're the only team to beat number
seven Texas A and M this year. Texas has somewhat
of an argument. But I think you got three law is.
I think you're you're in the back room. I don't
think you're gonna make a three longches. Be tough, be
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real tough to get into. I think alabamarown think's gonna go.
I just don't think they're gonna get it. But again,
this committee has a tough call to make today. They're
gonna look at what the team has done of late,
because obviously Notre Dame lost that first two, but round
of ten straight wins. Obviously. Another problem is going to
be the name factor, the name Notre Dame. I think
that's going to carry them into the playoffs, don't you think.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
I don't know, man, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Like I guess, you have to look at this schedule
and who what's the notable win, what's the big win,
the signature win that makes Notre Dame deserving of going
in the postseason? Who do they snatch down that they
were not supposed to snatch down. It's one thing to
say that those two losses against the top ten teams,
even though they were close, they were there. Who did
they knock off that we can say is a signature
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win on their schedule?
Speaker 3 (16:54):
And I think that is the bigger thing.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Like people love Notre Dame, we love the brand and
all that other stuff. But if we're gonna make this
a bit of a meritocracy, I don't know how they
go on merit particularly when you have a loss against Miami,
who's right there with them. I just don't know, like
what accomplishments, what accolades justified in being included in the conversation.
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I don't know if I have any.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Name, I think the name's going to carry them, I
really do. I mean, you know a lot of the
factors that go in there that will never know. People
want eyeballs. They want these eyeballs going there on the TVs,
and I think that it doesn't to me. I don't
think I make so much of a difference people going
to watch anyway. You know, it was great football yesterday.
The first two games of blowouts, but that Indiana Ohio
State game was a great game. And I'm sure the
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ratings were out through the roof last night. There was
nothing else on there really wasn't. However, I think that
they are so concerned with the eyeball test that's going
to be a factor. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think
they are concerned with that.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
I mean, I get it, certainly, I understand why, understand
why you would have that conversation about Notre Dame and
the eyeball test. And it is a TV show, not
necessarily a true playoff.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
But man, you just talk about.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Like changing the landscape potentially, you're changing the landscape of
college football in terms of the marquee games that we
will or will not see in the in the regular season,
and how teams are gonna take cupcakes all the way through.
They gonna take cupcakes all the way through. Now, I'm
gona say this about jam JAMU had one of the
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softest schedules. Either they didn't play anybody. Now they moley
whipped everybody, but they didn't play anyone of significance.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
So you have them getting in.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
You have Tulane taking the spot, so you have two
teams taking spots. Look, man, it just makes it very,
very difficult for me to say, oh, this is a
great playoff because you don't have the best teams in
the playoff.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
I'm with you right there, and I'll throw another wrench
into the situation before we roll this out of here.
If the conference championship game is not gonna hurt Alabama's
ability to make the tournament, and it may not, who knows,
then why should it hurt Brigham Young They finished eleven
and one. They wanted to kick the conference right, So
I mean, obviously Brigham Young's got an argument. Although they
got you know, they got banged.
Speaker 7 (19:11):
They got yesterday, right, Yeah, they got They got banged
up pretty good, and they got banged up twice by
the same team. The difference between Alabama and Brigham Young
is Alabama beat Georgia. They beat Georgia down in Georgia,
and then they basically played Georgia in another home game
in Atlanta, which is only an hour away from Athens, like,
so they had to deal with them twice and they
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split b YU was never close in either game.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
So I think we have to discount them. We got
to move them from right.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
And you're right, everything you say is correct. I'll throw
out one more thing. Alabama's got three losses that that
to me hurts too. Three losses, you know.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
I mean, I mean, yeah, yeah, I mean that's tough, tough.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
I mean, I'm glad I'm not on the committee because
you know, I couldn't. I couldn't live with myself. I mean,
we got the door. I said, maybe I should have
voted this. I just I'm glad I'm not. I want
to watch that deal today to see what happens.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
I mean, if you got big onions, it wouldn't be
a problem. Like if you just got you know, big
HANGI downs as you like to reference. You just make
a decision and you leave who you need to leave out. Yeah,
it's kind of easy leave them out.
Speaker 6 (20:18):
Well.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
You know.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
The funny thing is, I want these guys to be
somewhat transparent. I want to see who voted for who
and why. And I will never really find out the
truth about that, but we'll see. By the way, we're
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let's get into this right now. I want to just
touch for a second if I may on this Lane
Kiffin thing, because to me, I find that someone amusing
and somewhat crazy in the sense. Okay, there was a
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couple of players from Old Miss and they posted the
other day on x saying that Lane Kiffin's claim about
them asking him to stay, and one of the linebackers
there at OL, miss Perkins, I think considering Perkins said
that that was not the message you said in the
meeting room. Everybody that was in there can vouch for
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this that they did not wish that he would stay.
I mean, this guy's got some problems. And then he
said on the way to the airport with his son,
people were cutting him off, you know, and flipping him
the one finger salute. I don't get it. I mean, really,
I think they were happy to see him go. What
do you think? I don't Why would he say things
like that.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Well, I think people were happy to see him go
because he dragged him through such a soap op to
get there. It's one thing to take a job to
a conference rival. It's another thing to leave this team
hanging while you're competing not only for a conference title,
but for a college football playoff. Berth Blane Kiffin could
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have handled this completely differently if he had just made
a decision, gone to the ads, and been able to
live with decision that, hey man, we're not gonna let
you coach the rest of the way. And I know
that other people have been able to coach after taking jobs, right, So,
whether you say John somemmerl at Tulane before he took
the job at Florida, Popchesney at JMU, coached the finale
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before he took the job at UCLA, all those things
are cool. But Lane Kiffen could not get it done
because they just couldn't get on the same.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Page and because he dragged them through this stuff.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
If he's just straight up with everybody takes the job,
if you're gonna leave leif, I understand the players feeling
like that.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
But Lane wanted to be the good guy and the
bad gut the same time.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
He wanted to be the good guy, like, oh, I
love you guys so much, but I want to take
this job for my money because I feel like it's
better for me. But he was a bad guy by
poaching the coaching staff and saying, hey, I'm not gonna
let those guys coach with you, until he finally relented
and let Charlie Weiss Junior coach the offense. So to me,
if I'm old miss, I understand them standing ten toes
down and not allowing them to coach because it was
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a lot. He was trying to have his cake and
eat it too.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah. Do you know Lane Kiffin at all? Have you
met him? I mean, have you supposed Yeah?
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Yeah, I mean I've been around the circuit with I
can't say they were buddies. But I know him fairly well,
having been a scout when he was at as He
knowing when he was with the Raiders all that.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Like, I know who he is.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
I mean to me, I mean, I don't know him
at all, but I just think he's got an ego
bigger than the moon. And I don't think LUs he
was going to be his last stop.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Maybe maybe not. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Look, I will say this, he's a great coach, He's
a great offensive mine.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
He's done a lot of wonderful things.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
He rebuilt the brand at Old Man, he had a
lot of success at Florida Atlantic in those things. But
Elish is a different pressure cooker. He's stepping into something
that is maybe the biggest job that he's had, and
we'll see if he can handle all those things. For
all of the currency and goodwill that Lane had built
up doing his rebirth at Old Miss. He threw it
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all out the window and the way he handled this situation.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
But now he just has to own it. He's the villain.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
He just has to be okay with it and go forward.
He can't look back. He got to go forward, and
Old Miss the same thing. It was a nice run,
a nice ride from lank If and he decided that
he found somebody better. You got to let him go,
and you got to focus on helping Pete Gold and
have a higher level of success that Lane enjoyed while
he was there.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
No doubt about that, okay. And speaking of coaches to
speaking about coaches going, I mean this to me is
like a horror story. Today, the steel is a playing
in the Ravens. Both teams are six and six, But
the big story surrounding this game right now is the
coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers and Mike Tomlin and people
fans obviously, but now these former players want them out.
Do you take a listen to what James Harrison had
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to say about Mike Tomlin. Let's hear this.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
And as much as I hate to say this, I
have never been a person that thought Coach Tomlin was
a great coach. I thought he was a good coach,
and I'll be honest. Part of that is because when
I was slated to be the starter when Joey left,
he drafted one and two outside linebackers and I was
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actually behind one of them for a minute. Okay, well,
but right now, we have coaches on this staff and
that's it. And when I say coaches, I'm saying this
as a coach is someone that tells you what to do,
and it doesn't matter if what they're telling you to
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do is right or wrong. That's what a coach does.
And we have coaches. Okay, A good coach gets you
to play to your potential. And right now, the players
we have on that team I have seen play. I
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know they can do it. I have seen them do it,
and they're not playing up to their potential.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Amazing, I mean, I'm hearing this. I don't like when
former players bang and pounce on current situations right now.
Sometimes it's better off saying nothing. And Ben Roethlisberger is
another one who pounced on my tom And let me
just say this about Mike Toman. He's about fifty three
years of age, one hundred and eighty nine regular season wins,
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eleven most in NFL history, and during his nineteen years
with the Pittsburgh Steelers, a WINNI percentage of sixty two
point five, the best in franchise history. I never had
a losing season, all right, Your coaches or only is
and I never coached. But coach is only as good
as the talent they have. I think he's one hell
of a coach, and I think he's a Hall of
fame coach. And for players to disregard what he has
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done and to bang on him right now, I think
it's wrong. I think it's just poor. I don't like it.
I think it's the wrong thing to do.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
I mean, like, I mean, two things can be true.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Once he can be a Hall of Famer, but he
also can be a guy that maybe is the end
of the line in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
We saw this happen with Andy Reid.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
We saw the Philadelphia Eagles grow tired of Andy Reid
despite his success.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
I think at the time he was let go, he
had led.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
The Eagles to five NFC championship games with Donovan McNabb
and had been a bit of the quarterback guru and
those things. When they separated, Andy Reid goes to Kansas
City and has in a dynastic run with the Kana
City Chiefs with three Super Bowls five Super Bowl appearances.
The Eagles have won two since Andy Reid parted, so
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it is possible for it to be a win win
situation at the end of this. I did read last
night that in March of next year, the Pittsburgh still
has have a tough decision to make. Mike Tomlin has
an option on his contract where they have to either
pick up the option for twenty twenty seven or he
can be a free agent at the end of twenty
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twenty six. So in essence, they don't have to fire him,
but they could allow him to coach as a lame
dunk and then at the end of that he could
become a free agent for either the Stillers to resign
or for the National Football League to have at him.
Maybe that's the situation that we see transpire. Coach out
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the last five games, they decide, hey, it's not good enough,
we not go pick up your option you coached this
last year here, or that invites other people to come
in and either trade for him or whatever. But yeah,
something's gonna happen with Mike Tomlin. I'm not saying he's
gonna be fired, but they're gonna have to make a
decision whether they double down on the coach he's been
the most successful coach in the history based on regular
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season win percentage, or they're gonna say, hey, we're gonna
try and find someone better. But this is what we
do know about the Pittsburgh Steelers. They believe in stability.
They've had a lot of success, but look the last
couple of years, it's been disappointed. This has been a
very disappointing year based on their expectations of what they
thought this year was going to be, going all in
and being a five hundred team. It's certainly not what
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it's still has signed up for.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
I believe they've only had three coaches since nineteen forty one,
so I think he's in pretty good shape that they're
not looking to make a change. But again, I don't
think it's fair to kind of pinpoint all the errors
and all the problems of the Pittsburgh Steelers. I'm like
tonind but that's what the coach does, and he's the
CEO of the organization that they do poorly, it's his
full That's the way it is it is.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Look, that's what it is.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
When you cash the big check and you have the whistle,
it all falls in your watch.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
You're responsible for.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
The product that takes place, and that even if you
say a I give my coaches autonomy to do whatever,
it comes back to you. So if the defense isn't playing,
regardless of whether you want to blame it or defensive
coordinator Tarol lost it, it comes back to Mike Tomley
because you allowed it to happen.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
If it goes to.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
The offense and Arthur Smith, doesn't matter if Arthur Smith
is going to play Mike Tomlin, you allowed it to happen.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
At the end of the day, they.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Hold the head coach accountable for the performance of the
team on the field. He has to fix it. He
has five games or whatever to fix it. They have
a chance against the Baltimore Ravens to go back to
first place. It is on Mike Towmland to determine how
the rest of this story plays out.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
You know, it's funny you mentioned something early on about
the Kurt Signitti situation and the fact that you know
he's putting pressure on other coaches in the college situation
because what he did. He came in and immediately took
them to the playoffs, and that puts pressure on other schools.
Like you talked about Matt Campbell. Now he's leaving on
Iowa State, he's going to Penn State. He better turn
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it around because Curt Signetti did it. I think there's
a situation maybe in the pros, the same situation where
Ben Johnson when he didn't Icago, I mean Caleb the quarterback,
he said it was a wastelam for quarterbacks, and now
all of a sudden the Bears. They may end up
in the super Bowl. You never know, So I think
the pressure there can create a swing, a snowball effect
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rolling downhill where owners and ownership say, well, look what
Ben Johnson did in a year. We got Mike Tomlin
here and it's the same stale situation. Maybe it's time
for a change. I think that could create pressure, don't
you think?
Speaker 3 (32:27):
No? It did. It's great pressure.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
When those guys jump right in and have a lot
of success, everyone's fan base wants to know why can't
we have what they're having. That's just a natural a feeling,
the natural emotion to have when you're looking at your.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Team in comparison to others.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
However, when we talk about established coaches, guys like Mike Tomlin,
you typically have the ebbs and flows in those things.
Here's the thing that makes it tricky for Mike Tomlin,
right because people love and Look, I've been one of
the biggest his biggest supporters in terms of he's never
had a losing season. They go to the playoffs every year,
but they haven't had a win since twenty sixteen. I'm
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not a mathematician, but it's twenty twenty five now, so
we're talking about ten years where.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
You haven't won a playoff game. That's really, really hard.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
And it reminds me of Marvin Lewis in Cincinnati, where
you can have this success, but people grow tired of
just getting to this point. Marvin went having many years
where he couldn't win, He couldn't get past the first round,
they didn't win the game, and the Bengals fans got tired. Now,
I will say this to me, Marvin Lewis is a
much better coach than Zach Taylor, much better, doubt, but
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Zach Taylor will get the credit because he got them
to a super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
That's just what it is. And So for Mike Toomland to.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Get what Joe I don't think Zach Taylor did.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
I think Zach Taylor.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Zach Taylor's a head coach, so he gets all the kudos.
Like I mean, it's the same thing. You can't separate him.
And the same thing for Mike Tomlin. If he wants
to quiet the noise, he has to be able to
get into the postseason, and he has to win some
games to at least silence some of the critiques that
are being the bars that are being lobbed his way.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Know that about that. We'll see what happens. I tell
you what, I think it's a big game for Pittsburgh today.
I think they're healthier than Baltimore is. But we'll see
what happens. I don't know if that means anything, but
I think that Pittsburgh's gotta win today. Even though Aaron
Rodgers play has one arm. Really, I don't think he's
entirely healthy. I don't think he's one hundred percent. But
we'll see what happens there. All right, He's Bucky Brooks.
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Oh?
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yeah, I am that a question? You got a question
for it?
Speaker 3 (35:04):
I do? I do?
Speaker 10 (35:05):
I have a few questions. I think the first one
is something you touched on earlier. But what do you
think is the worst scenario in terms of backlash for
the committee? Because there's really no good scenario you put
in Notre Dame. It doesn't you know value that had
Toad you put in. You leave Bam out. No one
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wants to play in championship games. I want to hear
your thoughts on that.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
I would say that.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
I would say the worst case scenario would be to
leave Miami out and put Notre Dame in just because
it diminishes to hit the hit factor. What's the point
of playing the game on the field if you don't
get the benefit for being the victor.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
So to me, that would be the worst.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
The rest of them are subjective and you can kind
of dance around it, but the hit to hit on
the field, yeah, you can't avoid that one. If I
am Miami and I dominated Notre Dame, I should get
the benefit of dominating them and go over top of
them if all things are tied up.
Speaker 10 (36:04):
One hundred percent. I also think we have to know too,
like the CFP might want to put an acc team
in just so they don't get you know, the conference.
Obviously they would they would have a temper tantrum if
they don't get one team in. I think the next
question I wanted to say is more relevant to something
happening in the new IIL era. But Ty Simpson was
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a quarterback prospect in the twenty twenty sixth draft. Now
it's a week draft and he might come back to school.
The issue with that is, and I think a lot
of schools are going with that are having this issue. Rather,
is Russell Keelan Russell, who is the second overall prospect
in the twenty twenty five class would transfer probably if
ty Simpson goes back to school in US. He is
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the same problem with Mayava and Hassan Longstreet. I wanted
to ask your thoughts on that and how colleges should
approach those situations.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Well, you got to pay both of them. You gotta.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Ifigure got a way to pay both them, you got
to keep one around. You got to keep both of
those guys around because if not, it's always musical chairs
at the position. But if you're the coach, you always
want the guy who just played Ty Simpson just as
his first full season of playing as the starter. You
don't want d have to walk out the door, particularly
if he's coming back to college. It's gonna bounce somewhere.
So you got to find a way to pay both guys.
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But you have to be honest and if the backup
is going to leave, then so be it. That's why
you always have to be recruiting. That's just the game
and the life that we're in in college football. But
you can't let an established starter go unless you feel
confident that the backup is going to give you the
same kind of production or better production than he gave
you cool?
Speaker 2 (37:37):
All right? Is the Magic Man ready? Do you have
anything that Mark? Mark? Magicman? You got something for Bucky?
Not really, I was just listening to what they were
saying about stuff. But go ahead, go ahead, I got
something for him. Okay, let's talk about Odell Beckham Junior
was on the Pivot podcast the other day. He had
an argument. He said that a one hundred million dollar
contract wasn't enough for pro athletes to live on for
the rest of their lives. Could you please explain that
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to me? Maybe he's living in a different world. I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
Well, I think what he was doing was trying to
talk about it doesn't last a lifetime if you're not
really up on it. And so what he was trying
to do was give the scenario where everyone hears the
number one hundred million dollars, but then they don't hear Oh,
taxes take away forty percent of that, so it's sixty
million dollars, then other things. So he did a long dive,
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but people only heard that clip. And then he talked
about like being irresponsible with money and not saying that
he was broke, but being irresponsible for taking on all
of the family members, which is a very familiar tale
for a lot of athletes who talked about how they've
blown through cash because it's not just them, it's family
and everybody else linking into the cash. So, yeah, one
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hundred million dollars is more enough to live a lifetime on.
But what he was trying to do was to give
a honest depiction on how that money can go for
some athletes who have a lot of hangers on.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Got you Okay? Now that clear that. Let's talk about
the Dallas Cowboys for a second, and then wide receiver
George Pickens on the social media post he had his
response to criticism he received from Formal oll Pro cornerback
Richard Sherman. This was on the Prime Video broadcast Thursday night.
Sherman said Pickens looked quote uninterested and disengaged during the
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cowboys forty fourth to thirty loss to the Detroit Lions,
and George was not too happy about that.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
Yeah, So, I mean, here's what I would say about
George Pickens because I saw the shot that he took
at Richard Sherman. Richard Sherman really gave an honest assessment
because George Pickens didn't play well in that game. He
looked a little lethargic, lacka day's ago going to the
ball and didn't give the effort. And what it did
is that performance played into the narrative that accompanied him
when he went from Pittsburgh to Dallas that he was
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inconsistent in. How could you hang your hopes on someone
because at the time, I remember, we were talking about
George Pickens being paid and maybe he may end up
being a thirty five to forty million dollars wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
He didn't show that.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
He took a shot at Richard Sherman talking about his
days of San Francisco, but didn't realize Richard Sherman still
earned another off pro and went to another Super Bowl.
So I think the players today have to just eliminate
and not listening to all the noise on the outside
because they're very sensitive to criticism. They don't like t
get any criticism at all. And so it's just one
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of those things where, man, if you fire off and
give an honest critique, it always comes back where it
becomes personal.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
It's weird.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Okay, I got one quickie for you. Now, Why is
the college football portal open during their playoffs? Don't get it.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
Because college football is stupid and they don't have any leadership.
They need a commissioner, they need someone who make sure
that the timelines all match up. All of this is
stupid and they could be better done, but they've been
able to get away with it for so long.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Did it never change?
Speaker 11 (40:43):
It?
Speaker 3 (40:44):
There we go?
Speaker 2 (40:45):
I got you all right, look at the number ones
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Good morning everyone, this is Fox Football Sunday. He's Bucky Brooks.
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man of the hour, Bucky Brooks. How are you buck
another football day?
Speaker 3 (41:34):
Man? I'm good. That's everything, and.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Everything is good. I got a couple of questions. I
want to throw you away because I know you have
the answers. Number one, how surprised were you with this
Matt Campbell move from Iowa State to Penn State? And
I mean that was kind of kept under the rug
a little bit to the eleventh hour. I mean, didn't
hear much about Matt Campbell leaving.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
Yeah, a bit surprised only in terms of he's been
an Ioways State for so long. He's done such a
good job of building them up, like the most successful
coach in Iowa State history. Just a long I guess
ride or journey before Penn State was able to get
to Matt Campbell. You would think that if Matt Campbell
was gonna be the guy, you'd been able to wrap
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this up sooner, because, look, he is a good coach.
He has been a name that has kind of been
in the line light for a while.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
In terms of some of these bigger jobs.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
Just surprised that it's a Penn State a while to
get to him, But I do believe it ends up
being a good hire. He's a really good coach. He's
done great things wherever he's been. You would assume, with
more resources an opportunity to have better players, that he
would do great things at Penn State.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
No doubt about that. But don't you think that there
are other coaches ahead of him on the list that
they went for and they just either yeah right, okay.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
Yeah, I mean, and that's tough.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
I mean, look, no one wants to be the second, third,
fourth choice, But it doesn't matter. Once you get the gig,
it's on you to do with it what you will.
He has an opportunity to make this a great gig
by taking the players that he gets, that he brings
in in elevating this program. Now, the standard is high
because what's going to happen. All of the disdain from
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James Franklin is going to go away, and all of
a sudden, Matthew Campbell is going to be compared to
the things that James Franklin did. So all those top
ten finishes, to ten win seasons, all of those things,
those things are going to be the floor for what
they expect from Matt Campbell. So he has to understand
what the expectations are and get that team to go
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to another level.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Okay, Now, I remember when Matt Campbell coached the University
of Toledo. That's when I first met him. And now
a story comes out the other day which I couldnot
understand this whatsoever. Jason Candell the coach of Toledo, he
left to go to Yukon. What kind of move is that?
Why would you go to Connecticut? And let's he as
family there. Other than that, I have no idea why
to go from Toledo and then Matt conference to Connecticut.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
Well, I mean, Connecticut is a little bit of a
bigger job.
Speaker 4 (43:54):
You may have more resources, a different thing, and maybe
it's a different channel challenge. You know, you, Jason Candall,
you want to see if you can do it elsewhere.
Jim Moore junior done a really good job at Yukon
back to back nine win season. So you have a name,
you have a profile. You can use the success of
the basketball team men's and women's to heighten the profile
to get into more rooms in terms of recruiting, and
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then you have a chance to elevate it and take
it even higher. Look, you kind of had success throughout
his time at various stops.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
Randy Etzel has success for a while.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
And then Jim Moore junior, this is an opportunity for
him to elevate the program. So I can understand why
you want to leave Toledo, get out the MAC and
see if you can do something elsewhere.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
Ah, I hear you. And last but not least, I
mean to talk about how crazy the college landscape is
right now. And look, I'm not one of those guys
as opposed to change, but you know, sometimes change isn't good.
And I think some of the things that we mentioned,
the fact that the portal is open during the playoffs,
that's just plain stupid, it is. But the University of
Georgia and the athletic department, they're going to court right now.
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They want to obtain fridge at ninety thousand dollars in
damages from a former standout defensive end who transferred from
Georgia after his sophomore year, and they want to get
the money back. I guess they gave him an nil money.
I mean, it's unbelievable. I mean it's almost like pro football,
it really is. And with contracts and il situations and
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you know who's getting the money. And you know, again,
I say recruiting used to be a situation where coach
are going to the living room of a home and
talk to mama and papa talked to the kid, this
was going to happen. No, now you got to go
with a checkbook. That's what it's all about.
Speaker 4 (45:34):
Yeah, and this case is a bit of an landmark
case because what they're suing for, they're suing for future moneies.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
They didn't even pay him out the money that they're so.
Speaker 4 (45:44):
I think he had one payment of thirty thousand dollars,
but they're suing for.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
Three hundred and ninety k.
Speaker 4 (45:49):
They're suing for everything that was the entire contract, which
is unprecedented. And what it would do it would begin
to tie players to the programs that did originally signed
to and commit to, giving the large sums of money
that you would have to pay back if you depart it.
So it'd be interesting to see how this one plays
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out because it would be a way because you're hearing
some senators and politicians legislate they don't like what's happening
in college football and college basketball, the bouncing around and
players getting money, it would be a way to act
some control to that.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
So if you're free labor. In terms of free enterprise,
people having the ability to move around.
Speaker 4 (46:30):
You won't want this to go because what it's gonna do,
it's gonna restrict how people move around in the college landscape.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
Okay, now I want to talk about something close to
the home for you, because we want to talk about
your Jacksonville Jacks. They're eight and four and they're hosting
the Indianapolis Colts and they're eight and four as well.
And is it a time right now for the Colts
to take a deep breath, take a step back, and
maybe worry a little bit about Danny Dimes, the quarterback.
They lost to the Chiefs twenty three to twenty. But
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in that game, the Colts led in the fourth quarter
by a score of twenty to nine. And in back
to back games, Danny Jones, their quarterback against Pittsburgh and Atlanta,
was sacked twelve times. All right, And also the good
news for you with the Jags, their quarterback Sauce Guard
that he's out. So I think that the seams are
beginning to split a little bit in Indianapolis, Am I correct?
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I mean, they were the darlings of the league, but
right now things are changing a little bit of Indy.
Speaker 4 (47:26):
Yeah, I mean, like, I think a couple of things
with the Indianapolis Coast, Like they're reaching the tough stretch
of the season where they're playing some of these heavyweights,
and they're doing it with a quarterback that's compromised with
an injury. Daniel Jones has a fiblic injury that will
take away some of his ability to.
Speaker 3 (47:42):
Kind of move around and do some of the things
that he did earlier.
Speaker 4 (47:44):
But the other part is the more the Coasts have
put on tape, the more teams are able to adjust
to what they want to do. And if you really
look at the Coast, the Coats are led by Jonathan Taylor.
When Jonathan Taylor gets going, that's when they're at their
most explosive.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
He is terrific.
Speaker 4 (48:01):
He is averaging over one hundred yards rushing yards per game,
and so you have to contain him to slow them down.
So if you contain him and put the game on
Daniel Jones, he's still not quite the guy that can
carry the team consistently on his right arm, and teams
are trying to take that away and they're trying to
put more on them, and he struggled with turnovers the lady.
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He's been inconsistent, So it'd be interesting to see how
Shane Stiken finds a way to alleviate the pressure on
Jones while also having the counters to deal with how
teams are gonna play Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Right, And I got this stat just for you that
Jonathan Taylor has rushed for over seven hundred yards against
your Jacksonville Jacks, just to let you know.
Speaker 3 (48:42):
Are you looking?
Speaker 4 (48:43):
Yeah, I am, But then I could throw another stat
at you that the Indianapois coach haven won down in
Jacksonville in years almost a decade, So I mean it
goes back and forth. The thing about it is, as
I look out the hotel window and I'm looking at
this rain come down, whatever it is that you think
is going to happen may not happen because it's gonna
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be playing in the middle of a mon sooner and
I'm not happy about it.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
You know, I'm really glad you mentioned that, because you
know what, I thought about this the other day, and
I don't do a lot of thinking because I don't
have much between my years. Okay, that's number one, but
number two, you talking about the rain coming down and
the elements. There's such an advantage in the National Football
League that teams that play in a dome that there's
no outside elements that bought. Like today Cincinnati is going
to Buffalo and the predict they want the three ages
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of snow. It's got to affect the game. No, I
love watching those games on TV when you can't even
see the lines in the fields covered with snow. But
you don't think that there's an advantage playing in a
dome situation that has to be I mean, really, I
mean Peyton Manning when he let when he left Denver
to go to Indianapolis, I think that that saved his
career at the end. Really, I mean, don't you think
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playing indoors? And I just look, I get it. Football
is very similar in the sense that it's one hundred
yards long and we're thirty three and the third yards wide.
Every field's the same, So why shouldn't be every field
the same as far as elements? And it's not that way.
I get it. Maybe it's for fan comfort. Maybe they
do more so for fan comfort than the players. I
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don't know, but I just don't think it's fair. I
really don't.
Speaker 4 (50:14):
Well, it's fan comfort, and what you're saying is an
advantage in the dome. I would counter and say that
the teams that are playing outside in elements have a
greater advantage because if you're a team that is not
used to playing in the coal, playing in the snow,
playing in the mud or the rain, that's a huge
advantage for a team that practices and lives in that
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environment daily. In a dome, anybody can play in a dome.
That's like playing in the hotel room. We can just
line up and the ball down and go play. But
if you're playing outside and I'm telling you the as
ten degrees with thirty five mile wind gusts, that's a problem.
That's one of the advantages that the Cincinnati Bengals have
had in the past. I think back to way way
back when they played the Chargers in their little icy bowl,
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like the little little thing and Dan Fous and those
guys couldn't get going way way back.
Speaker 3 (51:01):
I mean, it's an advantage if you have a good team.
Speaker 4 (51:05):
If your team is good, the ross is good and
you get the benefit of having some favorable weather conditions. Yeah,
it's an advantage, But in the dome it allows you
to play fast and if you build the team for
the Dome, a fast team with a quarterback that can
sling it in those things.
Speaker 3 (51:19):
Yeah, I mean you have some.
Speaker 4 (51:21):
Advantages that you can create, but it's different than playing
outside in the web.
Speaker 2 (51:24):
Okay, but I'm gonna throw a wrench in that thing
that you just said. Okay, maybe an advantage because they
played in that. I think it's a disadvantage for free
agency because if I'm a free agent and I got
a chance to play in Miami or Green Bay, I'm
going to Miami. I don't want to go to Green Bay.
I don't want to go to Buffalo. I don't want
to play in those outdoor tundras. I don't want to.
Speaker 3 (51:41):
You know, it makes you feel a lot better when
it's nice and cold. A bed full of cash.
Speaker 4 (51:46):
So if I can lay, if I can lay on
a water cash, I'm not worried about all that other stuff.
Speaker 3 (51:51):
I'm not worried about all this stuff you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (51:53):
I can go to Miami on vacation if you pay
me enough, so I'll deal with the elements in those things.
If the money is significant different, I'm going to chase
the cast.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
Okay, you got me. You got me on that. You're right,
And if I do the same thing, yeah, I could
suck it up for the cast, no doubt about that.
Now I want to talk about Bucky Brooks, not the player,
not the coach, not the scout, not the TV star,
but the NFL dot com rider. And you wrote this
this week and I loved it. Said, forty seasons ago
to Chicago Bears destroy the New England Patriots in Super
Bowl XX, which is twenty not that smart. I had
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to look that up. It's twenty. Could we be looking
at a rematch this February both the number one seeds.
I mean, it's amazing, really because today the Bears are
nine and three and they're playing at the Packers eight
three and one, all right, and these are two staunch back,
history laden teams in the National Football League, and they
both play outdoors, which I love that. But I'll tell
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you one thing, that tie that the Packers have is
going to bite them in the rear end when it
comes down to the end of the season. I'm sure
it's going to be, really so we'll see what happens
in that game. Now, So about the Bears, They've rushed
for at least one hundred and seven the yards in
fear of the last five games. Last week at two
eighty one against the Eagles, this is coulda be a
not out game today. Tell me a little bit about
the Bears. Are they for real? Tell me about them?
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Because they got these takeaways all the time. What's going
on with them? How do they change?
Speaker 3 (53:11):
Yeah, yeah, I would say they're for real.
Speaker 4 (53:13):
I would say they they're for real because Ben Johnson
has implemented a scheme that mixes a little physicality with pizaz.
They are an old school running team, but they do
it in a very, very creative way. You'll see all
kinds of motions, shifts, blur motions, orbit, run arounds and
things that really test the eye discipline of the defense
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while really coming down hell with an old school run game.
Then on the outside in the passing game, they gonna
spread you round. They can create some mismatches. They gonna
isolate your defenders to make easy tosses for Kayleb Williams.
And I'm gonna say this, Caleb Williams hasn't played great
by the numbers. You know, he's completing less than sixty
percent of his passes. However, he's done a better job
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of managing the game and avoiding the big mistakes that
plagued his game as a rookie. The Bears are are
a really good team because on defense they take it
away and they give their offense extra opportunities. So there
was a lot of conversation when Ben Johnson took the job.
He made some shots. He took some shots at Matt
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Lafleour in the Green Bay Packers. So now this is
when the tax comes due. This is when the bill
comes due. If he's gonna beat mouthy pants, he has
to be able to show up and deliver against a
Packer team that has dominated the Bears in this series.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
Okay, Now, the Bears team has ten takeaways over the
last five games in the five game winning streak. And
I don't think it's a coincidence. I mean, and you
play the game, so you know this. I see the
Bears on defense always trying to punch the ball out
of an offensive player's hands. Okay, is that something they
teachers an instinct? How does that work? Is that a
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drill that they go through punching the ball out?
Speaker 3 (54:51):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (54:52):
Emphasis, So the people people will give a lot of
credit to old school Bear legend Charles Tillman Peanut Tillman
as the call it for the peanut punch.
Speaker 3 (55:01):
He was a master of knocking the ball out.
Speaker 4 (55:03):
And the one thing that everyone would tell you, every
coach would tell you, the number one deciding factor in
football games is the turnover battle. If you win the
turnover battle, you typically win the game.
Speaker 3 (55:13):
In the league.
Speaker 4 (55:13):
That's why there's such an emphasis on knocking the ball loose,
picking it off, trying to find a way to create
turnovers because that's the easiest path to victory.
Speaker 3 (55:22):
In the league.
Speaker 4 (55:23):
They have done it better than anybody else. I think
they lead the league with seventeen interceptions, so they're always
around the ball.
Speaker 3 (55:29):
This is a really, really good.
Speaker 4 (55:30):
Team, and I think they've arrived much quicker than many
of us expected. You thought it might take a little
bit to rebuild and repair the Bears, but nope, Ben
Johnson jumped in and they look like an emerging heavyweight
in the NFC.
Speaker 2 (55:44):
Okay, coach of THEA for sure. I think Ben Johnson's
got it hands down. So you think, well, maybe Vrabel,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (55:50):
I mean, yeah, that's a tough one.
Speaker 6 (55:51):
Man.
Speaker 4 (55:52):
I would probably ought for raible because I think less
was expected of the New England Patriots, and here they
are the only eleven win team in the league.
Speaker 2 (56:00):
Okay, and you asked a question when you're on NFL
dot com, which team has the most immediate potential? Would
it be the Patriots or would it be the Bears.
Speaker 4 (56:08):
I think the Bears right now you have to lean
on only because like their veteran core, what they're able
to do running the football, how they've been able to
be explosive and dynamic in the passing game.
Speaker 3 (56:17):
I would lean on them now. I think in the postseason.
Speaker 4 (56:21):
The firepower or maybe some of the lack of firepower
for the Patriots might catch up with them. I think
their best position for the next five years, I would
say the Bears are best position for right now.
Speaker 2 (56:32):
Right and I think the Bears are going to beat
them in Green Bay today, I really do. I think
momentum means a lot, and they have some good momentum
going on right now.
Speaker 3 (56:41):
All right, there's a lot of talkie talkie.
Speaker 2 (56:42):
We'll see apparently what you don't agree, you think the
package got this one?
Speaker 4 (56:49):
I mean to me, the packers of the team that
will emerge as the Super Bowl favorite by the time
we get to the end of the season, their office
coming together, their defensive lights out.
Speaker 3 (57:00):
This is a big game though.
Speaker 4 (57:02):
To me, this would be one where we're gonna put
the big hat on Matt Lafloor. Hey Man, Matt la
Floor got personally challenged by a newbie coach, called.
Speaker 3 (57:12):
Out on the carpet in his initial presser.
Speaker 4 (57:15):
If you can't come up with a game plan to
torch the Bears, that's on you. So I'm expecting the
Green Beer Packers. They have a lot of emotion, a
lot of venom, but better yet, a lot of execution
as they kind of try and set the Bears straight.
Speaker 2 (57:27):
Okay, and we're going to talk about another team that's
in that division right now, and that's the Minnesota Vikings,
because I think everybody expected a lot of things with
that ball club because they won fourteen games last year.
But they allowed Sam Donald to leave in free agency
and they turned over to JJ McCarthy, a first round
pick in twenty twenty four, and he was on a
cheap rookie contract, and by doing so, I guess the
Minnesota Vikings freed up a lot of money, millions of
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dollars and they spent it on the rest of their rosters.
So what happens right now? They're foreign eight, they're fourign eight,
and they host the three and nine Commanders right now.
And the last time the Commanders won was on the
COVID the fifth this year. So the Vikings had five
turnovers and a loss to Seattle with four deceptions. And
that was a funny loss because who's quarterback in Seattle?
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Their former quarterback for Minnesota. So the miscalculation of the
Viking it was a dumb move. It really was. They dumb.
Sam Donald. They turned their JJ McCarthy. He was cheap.
They had money for the rest of the roster, and
they spent something a three hundred million dollars on new contracts.
Un last Sunday, Donald took it out on his former
team twenty six nothing over the Vikings. Vikings really they're
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not the same team with that. They're not. And Seattle's
nine to three, Vikings four and eight and Max Brosmer.
Can you believe that Max Brosmer was quarterbacking the Vikings
last week? It's amazing how the team went from fourteen
wins and not gonna make the playoffs this year.
Speaker 4 (58:50):
Yeah, I mean it's tough, but I think everyone is
romanticizing the Sam Donald thing. But I think when people
are filling to realize he melted down at the end
of the season last year, so everyone is saying like, oh,
you have to give him all this cash.
Speaker 3 (59:03):
They should have brought him back. It was a no brainer.
Speaker 4 (59:05):
He played horribly the last two games of the season
and the left for Mark. You know, you didn't see
him play well against Detroit in the finale, and then
he looked he stubbed his toe against the Rams.
Speaker 3 (59:17):
There wasn't a lot that you could take from that.
Speaker 4 (59:19):
And as well as this going for Sam Donald noll,
there's still a bit of wait and see from what
he's going to do when it matters, because when they
played the Rams earlier.
Speaker 3 (59:28):
He stunk. I mean, he just did. He's stunck against
the Rams. There's no respect for him.
Speaker 4 (59:33):
Maybe the Minnesota Vikings miscalculated and thinking that they would
be able to quickly get JJ McCarthy up to stump
after he set out his rookie season with an injury,
but look, they were gonna have to pay thirty five
thirty three million dollars for Sam Donald. And do you
believe that he was going to replicate that, because remember
that's the only year that he's ever done that. He's
a bit of a one hit wonder. I understand why
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people are mad. JJ McCarthy hasn't been available, and when
he has been available, he hasn't been consistent. Then, so
that gives you a little pause.
Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
But I don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:00:04):
If it was the wrong move to move on from
Sam Donald when he hadn't really proven that he could
be the long term answer at the position.
Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
But did you think that JJ McCarthy would be the guy?
I mean, really and truly I did.
Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
I mean, look, I I was a fan.
Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
I was a fan of JJ McCarthy coming out of Michigan,
but I didn't expect them to put the weight of
the offense on him. To be fair, he's only played
in six games. He missed his entire rookie season.
Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Before was before the fans wanted a bench anyway, But
he didn't play because he was injured. Okay, he had
two interceptions and thlew for just eighty seven yards. That
was two weeks ago before. He didn't play that game.
I mean, so I think they're a problem now. They
don't know who the quarterbacks could be well.
Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
I mean if they listened to the outside noise. If
you drafted J. J. McCarthy because you thought he was
gonna be good, then you don't waiver after six games.
You give him a full opportunity to show you that
he can or can't play. But six games it's too
soon to make a determination on whether a quarterback can play.
Typically it takes thirty games to know whether a quarterback
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can play. So this is going to be a test
of Kevin mccar, Kevin O'Connell and everybody in that organization.
Do you stand on what you believe in or do
you allow the people in the cheap seats to sway you?
Because if you listen to the people in the cheap seats,
you end up sitting in there with them.
Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
So you just got to be convicted.
Speaker 4 (01:01:25):
And you have to find a way to help this
young quarterback play better than he's played before. That is
on the coach. He has to ex and o it.
He has to figure out how to manage it. But
there's a way to get J. J. McCarthy to play
winning football.
Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
Oh see what happens there? All right? It's sad news
up there in Minnesota, But we move on, all right,
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be the blame game. But right now, let's get into this.
(01:03:03):
Let's get into the game that people are saying. Now,
if they had it in my backyard, I closed the curtains. No,
not really. There's a little bit of a storyline here.
They got the Titans one and eleven in Cleveland against
the Browns three and nine, and I guess the story here.
The hype here is Shador Sanders against cam Ward. What
happened to cam Ward this year? Number one draft pick?
You know, he was really quiet going into the draft
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and he's been more quiet. Now, what's the deal? Is
he gonna make it? Is cam Ward going to be
an NFL quarterback?
Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
Uh? He'll make it.
Speaker 4 (01:03:33):
But like most young quarterbacks, I could take some time
to adapt to the league.
Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
And he lost his head coach.
Speaker 4 (01:03:39):
Early in the year, and he's been playing under interim
coach Mike McCarty Mike McCoy, and it hasn't it hasn't
gone well, but he's learned a lot through the reps
and the only thing that he can do is continue
to try and challenge himself to get better. And better
each week as they eventually supply him with more talent
around him. But right now, it's been tough and it's
been tough for him, just like all the other young
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quarterbacks are having a tough time figuring out how to
play quarterback in this league, no.
Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
Doubt about that. But the big story I guess in
Cleveland right now is Shadua Sanders, all right, And the
question I have is, Okay, you gout should do? And
I'm happy he's playing. He deserves it because there's no
one really better right now on the roster except except
Deshaun Watson. Where's Deshaun Watson? Because the Brown's opened up
Deshaun Watson's twenty one day practice window? And are we
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ever going to see him on the center again in
the future or this year? And I have not? Why not?
Because he probably could be their best quarterback on their
roster and the Browns have it until Christmas week to
activate him on the fifty three man roster and he
could then be activated for the final two games of
the year. Are they gonna do it? Should they do it?
Because who's a better quarterback on that roster than potentially
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Deshaun Watson?
Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
I mean no one. And here's what I'll say.
Speaker 4 (01:04:55):
In Cleveland fans don't want to acknowledge that because the look,
the Deshaun Watson thing has been a disaster from the jump.
When it comes to them trading with a bunch of
assets to bring them over, he hasn't performed well. He
got hurt, you had the scandal that came with him.
Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
All of that.
Speaker 4 (01:05:09):
That said, when you're the Cleveland Browns and you look
at the landscape, you look at what you have on
your roster, which is Shudura Sanders, Dylan Gabriel, young quarterbacks
trying to figure out. You look at the free agent
market that is coming. You have Mac Jones, you have
Daniel Jones, you have Tyrod Taylor and others. And then
you look at the draft, where you have Mendoza.
Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
And a lot of question marks.
Speaker 4 (01:05:33):
You might be left with Deshaun Watson as your best
option at quarterback. And people don't want to say this,
but if you look at what's available, he could be
the best option for the Browns and because of late,
he's been so instrumental in trying to help Shdurah Sanders
and Dylan Gabriel prepare.
Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
If I'm paying him.
Speaker 4 (01:05:53):
I might as well have him in the building and
around the team and see if he can give us
something With a new coach. We assume that they gonna
have a new coach, why not keep them around and
see if there's something that can be selvish.
Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
Do you think you mentioned new coach? I mean, I
think Stefanki is a heck of a coach, I really do.
I don't think it's entirely his full but sometimes you know,
coach has to go. Team's not winning, just just they
want to change. I mean, but I think he's a
good coach. The same thing goes to Minnesota. I think
he's a whale of a coach in Minnesota. But Stefanski's gone.
Is that you what you're hearing?
Speaker 4 (01:06:25):
I mean, I just don't know how you can bring
him back for the fans. I mean, I just know
how to Who's gonna sign up, Like I just said
in the previous segment, if you listen to the fans
or whatever. But the difference is we're in the sports
and entertainment business. Who is going to sign up to
see the Browns roll out and run this back with
Kevin Stefanski after two years in a row of bad ball.
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I just think it's a hard sale, you know. I
know he's a two time Coach of the Year and
those things. I just think it's a hard sale in Cleveland.
And I'll be honest, some of the weird old stuff
that is taking place in terms of not calling, not
calling by name, like all of this other stuff, I
think it's made it really really difficult to bring him
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back unless they go on a great run at the
end of the year. I still don't see it, though.
I think Kevin Stefanski has made it far harder than
it needed to be in Cleveland. Not only would the Shawn,
but we should him with everybody else that has played quarterback.
Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
There, all right, I hear what you say. Now, the
question is will we see Deshaun Watson play in the
last two games? Will they activated for the last two?
I think they should. I mean, he basically has to
be the future at quarterback for that team.
Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:07:36):
I don't know if they need to necessarily activate him
to playing games. I think it's more so you want
to see him in proud to see what he looks like,
see the field, let him get his feet wet before
he prepares to compete.
Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
For the job in the spring.
Speaker 4 (01:07:48):
He's the veteran presidence because I told you Daniel Jones,
Mac Jones, who mac Jones is on the trade market,
Daniel Jones, Tyrod Taylor, whatever. There is no one on
the market that's gonna come say you as a veteran
free agent.
Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
Nobody right, And I'm.
Speaker 4 (01:08:02):
Gonna tell you the twenty twenty sixth class that's special
to me. Like people are talking about Mendoz But when
I look at Mendoza last night, he's okay. I don't
think he's number one pick worthy based on what I saw.
He's a good college player. I don't think he's a
game changer coming into the league. So when you weigh
it against what the landscape is producing next year, you
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might as well keep him and see if he's a
better option than any of the ones that are gonna
come available.
Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
You talk about that contract, that contract was a major bust.
And I'll tell you what that contract did. It opened
the floodgates for all the quarterbacks in the National Football League.
So every quarterback right now that gets his paycheck should
thank Deshaun Watson because I'm the Cleveland Browns, because I
think that was the beginning of the quarterback quarter the
quarterback cash boom.
Speaker 4 (01:08:50):
Uh yeah, but what it should have been was the
guaranteed contract boom. But people didn't have the hangy downs.
Second time I've used that in our show to stick
with it. But they should have done that because when
Deshaun Watson got a fully guaranteed contract at quarterback, the
next quarterbacks that came after him should have all gotten
guaranteed contract and it should have been a thing where
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then you begin to see the shift where they go
from non guaranteed to fully guaranteed contracts at quarterback.
Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
Okay, I'm looking at the schedule today and I think
this could be one of the biggest games at least
for this team. And I'm talking about the Kansas City Chiefs.
The game is at home. The Chiefs believe it. Do
you think they'd be six and six after twelve games?
Speaker 3 (01:09:31):
I mean, really, I knew it was gonna be a
market correction.
Speaker 4 (01:09:33):
I didn't expect them to be what they've been in
terms of the heavyweight. At some point, age was gonna
get them with Travis Kelce, the lack of development on
the perimeter, their wide receivers not being what they wanted,
them to be that would catch up with them, and
it's called a haven't been Yeah, and they don't have
a marquee running back, and that is really the thing
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that I'm glad you brought up, but people don't bring up.
Speaker 3 (01:09:58):
I know, we think about running backs as being interchangeable, disposable,
whatever you want to call them.
Speaker 4 (01:10:02):
We can find them anywhere, but man, you have to
have a special one sometimes, particularly the way the league
is changing, they don't have anybody special.
Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
You know, I'm hearing you. They're hosting the use in
text that was said Dallas. The Houston text is seven
and five today, And you know it's funny. I like
to go on this website called US sports pages dot
com so I can read the sports pages of different
newspapers across the country, and a couple of writers have
written this, which I think is insane. But they said
it might be best for Kansas City to lose because
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they need to lose to get better draft picks. I mean,
I don't understand. I mean, I don't know what losing
does for you. But you know, draft picks to me
are a crapshoot. You know, you could have a high
draft selection and really bomb out on a player. Now
I'm looking at Cincinnati. That was a no brainer. I
could have drafted Joe Burrow. Anybody's gonna dravet Joe Borrow
the number one pick, but it's picks two through whatever.
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You know that those are the keys, and sometimes they
don't work out. So to lose to get a better
draft pick, that's insane. You know, you just forget it.
You gotta win. You gotta win what he got and
do the very best you can and maybe go out
and get something in free agency.
Speaker 4 (01:11:12):
I mean they can do that, but yeah, they're gonna
have to hear the reset. They're gonna hear the reset button.
But they gotta find a way to improve. They've they've
committed resources to the offensive line, but they gotta find
a running back because a dominant running back will make
life easy for Patrick Mahomes. I would expect them to
see if they can do something to give them that
impact that they're lacking, because right now, Isaiah Pacheco has
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been hurt off injured, Kareem Hunt is nearing the end
of his line. They just don't have enough juice in
the backfield to change the way people will play against
Pat Mahomes. They can't punish them for playing soft coverage,
and until they're able to do that, they won't be
able to deliver the explosive plays and the fireworks that
we saw in the past.
Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
I am so happy you mentioned the running back position
because it's so it's such a position that people think
it's like a dinosaur, like the old full back position.
But you don't have running back, I mean, you're in trouble.
Certainly the quarterback is the key, but there running back
basically could eat up the clock, and especially in bad
weather when you really can't pass, it's a life saver.
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And today you have a great running back in Buffalo
with James Cook, and they're hosting the Cincinnati Bengals, and
it kind of Bengals season is on the line every week.
They're four and eight. They lose today, their playoff situation
is done. Right now, the door is open. You can
almost see a shadow, but Bills are eight and four.
But you look at James Cook what he has done
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right now. He's got a career high with almost twelve
hundred rushing yards one hundred and two point three rushing
yards per game per game, ranks fourth in the Buffalo
team history, and he's now just a couple of touchdowns
away from tying Fred Jackson, which is thirty for the
fifth most touchdowns in Buffalo Bill's franchise history. I'm almost
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shocked how good he was. And I remember back in
August he was holding out. I was scratching my head, really,
James Cook holding out? Look, he's strong. I mean talking
about Jonathan Taylor, what he has done for the offense
in Indianapolis, I think you could raise that up another
notch with James Cook when he's done in Buffalo.
Speaker 4 (01:13:10):
Yeah, he's a great player, and they've done a really
good job of doubling down on the running game to
make sure that they can control the outcomes of games
and to mass their biggest weakness, which is their defense.
James Cook has been able to give them that inside outside,
big play back who also can catch it out the
backfield man.
Speaker 3 (01:13:26):
What's not to like about his game?
Speaker 4 (01:13:28):
Terrific player, and the more he becomes a factor on offense,
the better the Bill's chances are of making a postseason run.
Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
Right, I tell you what, I had no idea. He
talk about statistics, and I'm not a great statistical nump,
but when it stands you right in the face, you
got to say, Wow, I remembout Josh Allen. He has
now more total touchdowns in his first nine seasons. I
can't believe he's been there nine years already, in his
first nine seasons than any quarterback ever two hundred ninety
one touchdowns and counting. And he's still only in year eight.
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He's passed Russell Wilson. He's past Peyton Manning who had
two eighty eight and nine, and entering this year with
the most touchdowns by any quarterback through eight years in
league history. Wow, that is tremendous. Really, I mean, you
talk about the great quarterbacks in this league. I don't
think he gets the respect he deserves. I mean, and
maybe because I'm in the Midwest and you know, near
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Cincinnati with Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow to me and he
had a great deal list. Yeah, probably gets more accolades
than Josh Allen does.
Speaker 4 (01:14:29):
Yeah, but I think there's a greater appreciation with Josh
Allen now because we've seen him do the most with
the least. You know, when you remove Stefan Diggs from
the equation and you didn't really upgrade the wide receiver position.
You see a player who's really having to do it all.
And before we used to like rave about his running
skills and his ability to be the one man show.
But it's different now because he's being able to reign
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in some of the recklessness while still giving us that
that fearless playmaking ability that we love to see from
our quarterback as he carries the Buffalo Bills because we
know that he's playing shorthanded with the team that he has,
but as he carries them to victories, there's a greater
appreciation for him being that guy that can elevate the
people around him, no.
Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
Doubt about that. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Ferman. We
of Fox Football Sunday a Fox Pastradio. By the way,
it's never his fault. It's never her fault, is it?
Speaker 11 (01:15:21):
But the blame game is you're listening to Fox Sports
Radio on the blame Game coming right up.
Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Furman. We are live from
the Fox Sports Radio studios. By the way, top of
the hour, and that's twelve minutes from now, that'll be
eight o'clock of the East Coast. Mike harmon the Swollen
dorm and Greg Coast Cell will carry along right here
on Fox Butrstradio. But right now it's time for the
blame game. You ruin me.
Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
It's all your fault. No, it's your fault. But isn't
all your fault?
Speaker 9 (01:16:01):
Maybe it's everyone's fault, see the liar. That's why there's
the blame game.
Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
The blame game.
Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
Let's figure out who to blame. Yeah, the playing game.
Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
Are you ready, Brandon, They're blame game. We're gonna blame.
Speaker 10 (01:16:12):
You, blame you, blame me, blame me? Uh I, So look,
who's to blame here? Josh Allen wins MVP last year
with virtually the same wide receiver corps, virtually the same
his QBR is down thirteen points this year. Is it
just an MVP hangover?
Speaker 3 (01:16:31):
What is it?
Speaker 10 (01:16:31):
Who's to blame for this situation? Because Joe Brady is
still gonna probably get head coaching interviews.
Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
Uh, you want me to go first, because I got
the answer. It's very easy, it really is. It's not
that difficult.
Speaker 1 (01:16:43):
It's his wife.
Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
He just got married in the off season. He's got
different things on his mind right now. Blame his wife.
That's the problem. And they always say yes. They always
say there's always a good woman behind the strong man. Well,
you know what, though, she's brought him down. Maybe she's
a good I don't know. But when you get married
of additional responsibilities and Bucky, you're going to agree it's
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the wife. It's the marriage that bought his that's down.
Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
The wife to take his stats down. I would say
that it's the lack of production around him.
Speaker 4 (01:17:16):
It's the lack of development that Ken Coleman and some
others made on the perimeter that have robbed him of
his big playability.
Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
He's still effective, he's still great.
Speaker 4 (01:17:25):
I would say the people around him have not performed
up to the standard.
Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
Well, the one that's around him is his wife. She's
around him.
Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
I don't know. I saw her in Cinners. I would
think that he would be motivated to play better. Isn't
that worse? Well?
Speaker 10 (01:17:40):
Well, yeah, nine nine of the last ten Super Bowl
champions have been married the quarterbacks of those teams. The
check the stats, No, it's one hundred percent. And Jalen
Hurts got married the following month after that. Uh my
next one, quickly, who's to blame with Lamar Jackson then?
And is dropping QBR this year with the Ravens.
Speaker 3 (01:18:00):
Oh, they're just bad. I look, I think it's everything.
Speaker 4 (01:18:02):
I still am not in love with the design of
the offense from Todd Munkt the offensive coordinator, the receivers
and players are not being consistent. It looks it's a
total failure in Baltimore. If they don't win today, like
all bad in the charm City.
Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
Well, I think they could blame his injury. Fact. I mean,
he's not one hundred percent. I mean, none of these
guys this time of the year one hundred percent. But
he's really been banged up pretty good. So and I say,
back off, Brandon, really and truly. You know, you're the
new kid on the block. Take it easier. Lamar, he's
my guy. I love him. He's from Kentucky, he went
to the University of Louisville. I mean, come on, really,
I love Lamar Jackson. And that's the end of the story.
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And they'll win today.
Speaker 10 (01:18:42):
Maybe eventually they'll win a Super Bowl too.
Speaker 3 (01:18:44):
That'd be great.
Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
Well, listen to you. That's a shot. Now, that's a shot.
Who's your team? What is your team done?
Speaker 10 (01:18:50):
My team has not done anything. And since I've been
alive in thirty years. It's the San Francisco forty nine ers.
Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
So thank you.
Speaker 10 (01:19:01):
I don't have anybody else to blame, all right, what's next?
Speaker 3 (01:19:05):
I don't know somebody to blame. There's to be somebody
to blame. We can blame Andy for always. Did you
know what, Andy?
Speaker 4 (01:19:14):
You didn't really bring up the Bengals today, which is
a rarity, like normally you bring up something with Joe
Burrow and the Bengals or whatever. Are you completely off
the Bengals prospects of being a playoffs people?
Speaker 3 (01:19:27):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
I can't talk about it because it makes my head spin.
You got people in this city right now thinking they're
going to go to the playoffs. They'd have to have
they have to win every game down the road. Number one,
Number two also get some help along the way. I
don't see it happening. It'll be a mono miracle. Really,
it really would be. They couldn't win today in Buffalo?
They played twelve on eleven? How's that? How's that?
Speaker 3 (01:19:48):
Wow? You know what? I'm knowing all that?
Speaker 4 (01:19:51):
I think they win in Buffalo today. I think they
win in Buffalo. They bring it back.
Speaker 3 (01:19:55):
I think I think you end up shouting in your
bathroom today. Who day who? They say they're gonna beat them.
Speaker 4 (01:20:01):
I think you're gonna dance around and do the Icky
shuffle because Joe Burrow is back and he's all they need.
Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
Well, I would say this, you know, and I've said
this to people before. They talk about, you know, Joe
Burrow being back. He was back last year. He had
a tremendous season a year ago, a baddest season really,
and they still don't make the playoffs. Okay, what I
don't like about, right, But I don't like what I'm
seeing this year. Trey Hendrickson, He's like, no way to
be found. You can't find the guy with a search warrant.
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He doesn't even go to practice. He doesn't show up
in the sideline for games. He wasn't there two weeks ago.
Last week he was at the sideline for the game.
But what's the deal? You know, are they hiding the guy?
There's something going on with Trey Hendrickson. There's no doubt
in my mind. And I understand that he's not happy
with the contractual situation. Yeah, but come on, you're you're
a captain, You're a copter in the team.
Speaker 3 (01:20:51):
Well, yeah, I'm a captain.
Speaker 4 (01:20:52):
And I'm gonna give you exactly what captains do for
the money that you're paying me.
Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
And you're not giving me what I deserve.
Speaker 4 (01:20:58):
So you don't give me big time money, you don't
get big time effort, the effort.
Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
He doesn't even show up. I mean, it's not come on,
you got you gotta show up. I mean it's not right.
I just don't think it's right. I really don't. Here
we go anyway, have a great day, Brandon, Thank you
so much as always for your help, and we'll see
you next Sunday. Stay tuned for Krichellen Harmon on Fox
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