Andy Furman & Bucky Brooks discuss Clemson’s BIG loss, National Understudy Day in the NFL, & MORE!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Oh you thought clowns were only in the circus. Oh,
stay with us, We got some stuff for you right now. Hey,
good morning everybody. This is Fox Football Sunday on Fox
Sports Radio. I'm Andy Furman and he's Bucky Brooks, and
together we're broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.
And away we go. And I want to introduce my
partner and friend, the man of the the Renaissance Man,

(00:25):
if you will, Bucky Brooks. Hello, Buck, how are you?

Speaker 3 (00:28):
I'm good Andy? What's going on? How you doing?

Speaker 2 (00:30):
I'm doing wonderful. And I tell you sometimes I see things,
I hear things, and I can't wait to explode here
on the little stage that we have every Sunday morning.
And I read a piece the other day and I
call this gentleman a clown and the author of the piece,
and I will not mention his name, because I'm sure
that's why he wrote it. The piece was entitled It's

(00:52):
time for Deon Sanders and Colorado to mutually part ways?
All right? I read it. I chuckled, and then I
got really aggravated because people behind the computer have this
sort of power, or I guess this ego thinking like
they could control things, and they can. I said to myself,
why would he write this again? I'm not mentioning the

(01:14):
publication or his name, but that's what he wants. I
guess they'd write it for clicks, for exposure, or really
and truly to prove to the world that you're a
fool and you're a clown. I don't know if you'd
seen it or not. I know Colorado won yesterday beat
Wyoming thirty seven to twenty, and they're two and one,
and here's what he writes. I'm going to share it
with you because I know you're good friends with Deon Sanders,
and I love Deon. And I'm not saying this because

(01:35):
of my relationship with him when he played for the
Cincinnati Reds. I'm just saying that it's not fair what
this guy wrote. He says, before we go any further,
there's an important question that needs to be asked to
gauge whether things go and where they go next. In Boulder, Colorado.
What war and are the expectations for Deon Sanders as
coach at the University of Colorado. Was it Deon experiments
supposed to drum up publicity and get eyes on the

(01:57):
program because if so, mission accomplass will. I agree. People
are talking about the Colorado football team more in the
past three years than they have probably since the early
nineties when quarterback Cordell Stewart was sitting Directed is okay,
but now he says that the recruiting is not good.
The recruiting classes have had twelve and fifteen in rollees.
These are paltry numbers when compared to other programs like Georgia,

(02:18):
Ohio State, and this means that Sanders has to rely
increasingly on the transfer portal while praying his small signing
classes have a high success rate. This guy is a fool.
What Dion Sanders has done for Colorado, the governor of
the state should give him a gold medal. People are
talking about it. That got exposure. The games are being
sold out, they're selling merch. I don't know why someone

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would do this and pick on him, except it's an
ego thing because he's a high powered individual that gets
in the spotlight. And when you could attack someone in
the spotlight, you yourself will get in the spotlight. But not
here and not out of my mouth. That's all I
have to say. Do you agree with this or on
my way off base.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
I means is off. One the reason this off putting
is you're coming off a nine win season. Why would
you fire someone coming off a nine win season When
we're three games into the year. Colorado's one and eleven.
When Dean Sanders took over the program, They've now become
relevant in the national scene, not necessarily because they are

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football power, but they're notable, right, there's a following. They
get attention even when you put them on late because
they were in a late game last night when Wyoming
you still had eyeballs on it. So internally, why would
Colorado ever get rid of the attention? Because it has

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been shown the better your football team, or the more
recognizable your team, the more students apply for admission to
the university. All the numbers that it comes that comes
from driving up revenue and all that those are great.
The on field product. Look, while they're not a playoff
team this year, they're certainly competitive, they're not embarrassing. They

(04:01):
don't have any egregious or embarrassing losses, and then they
won last night. So the column is off putting. It
is a quick way to generate clickbait because whenever you
put coach Prime's name in the headlines, you're gonna click
in and at least read whatever opinion is out there on.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Them, Thank you very much. I didn't want to go
off the deep end on that, and that's why I
run it by you. And I know I did know
to a sense that I was right because this guy, again,
his name will not come out of my mouth, but
he's a clown. There's no doubt my mind is a clown,
and obviously he wants a little exposure at the expense
of Deon Sanders. You know, really and truly, I don't

(04:41):
really enjoy people behind microphones saying that someone should be fired. Really,
it's a disgusting thing. You know. If coaches are gonna
get fired, they're gonna get fired anyway, not because someone
behind the microphone says get fired. Really, it doesn't work
that way. I mean, they're yelling up there in Madison,
Wisconsin to fire Fickle now, the football co at University Wisconsin. Now.

(05:01):
The chance is not gonna do anything. His record will
prove that he won't be there longer. But if you
want to fire somebody, if someone's on the hot seat,
big times. It's going to be the coach at Oklahoma State.
Mike Gundy's gonna be gone. He came back this year,
as you know, he took a pay cut to come back.
They lost to Tulsa. They lost a Tulsa Friday Night
nineteen twelve for the first time in Stillwater in twenty

(05:24):
seven years. Not good. Losing to Tulsa, Oklahoma University of Tulsa,
losing to Oklahoma State. That's not a good look for
Mike Gundy. I would say that he has one foot
in the grave right now.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Probably so. And I can't say that I necessarily feel
bad about it. Like he's been wild in out of
pocket for a minute when it comes to just some
of his comments, some of his commentary just in general.
And then if you're gonna be wild and outlandish like that,
then what happens when the worm turns and the on
field performance is not acceptable within your less likely you

(06:00):
want to continue with someone who was polarizing and made
no mistake. He's polarized and because the team, the program
has grown stale, I can see them moving on. They
already did the major pay cut. So you know, if
we got your paid one year, the next thing that
happened is they gonna remove you from the job the
next year. And that's probably where we're at right now
at Oklahoma.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
State, right and the only reason he's been there for
such a long time. He's like a favorite son. He
played there, He went there with the whole deal, and
I think he was friends with that guy Pickings who
donated so much money to that program.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah, t Bone, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
T Bone. So I think that Mike Gundy could be
on his way out. And I remember he had a
big incidance several years ago when he grew his hair
down to his shoulder. I mean, look, I lived in
Oklahoma when he was still coaching over there. Everything he
did was kind of like off the beaten tracks or
to speak. You know, he did his own way and
sometimes it didn't work. But you know he's not alone
because I think Arkansas they're in trouble right now. Sam

(06:53):
Bitten and Dabbos Sweeney Clemson one in three. When did
that ever happen? What happened to clem So? I mean,
I remember Dabo Sweety was big by saying I'm not
going into the portal. I'm not even well, you know what,
you better get into the portal because your name may
be in there as a coach pretty soon, you better
get in the portal.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Yeah, I don't so I think it's funny, right because
I feel like there's a little palalan on with Dabbo,
just because he has been very, very loud about his
old school values and what he believes in. And I
think we're at this thing where everyone believes in this
transient nature that should exist in college football, that you

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should just go and pluck a bunch of different people
every year and turn out a new team. I'm actually
with Dabbo in terms of the best way to build
a long sustainable program is to do it the way
that he's talking about doing, which is I would say, recruit, develop, retain,
and eventually let that that team grow into being a power.

(07:55):
And when you look at his numbers, how can you
dispute the success that he had. Sure in the new
era the last three four years, they haven't been like
at the top of the top, but they were a
playoff team last year. They're always in the conversation. It's
just that we grow tired of him standing at the
podium and lecturing us on the state of affairs and

(08:19):
all of these things, and so I understand why he's
getting a blowback, but it's unwarranted. He's the most successful
coach that Clemson has ever had. The one thing that
I would tell Dabbo is don't give them a reason
to come back at you. So when you have a
long dissertation early in the week about you know, I've
been here. If they're tired of winning, I can go somewhere,

(08:39):
Elson win or whatever. Well, now you open yourself up
when you have another loss on Saturday. So now you've
got to stand back in front of the podium at
those people that you gave the lecture to and hear
those questions all over again. What he needs to do
is find a way to rebuild the confidence that is
lacking in the locker room right now and get back
on track and leave all the fodder, all the conversation man,

(09:01):
leave there for another time. Focus on the main thing.
He's distracted by trying to be the professor as opposed
to trying to be the productive coach.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
I remember several years ago there was a tremendous feature
on him and Clemson in Sports Illustrated, and part of
that story sort of pushed me the wrong way about it.
I've never met the guy, don't know him at all.
And it said that on Sundays he takes the team.
I mean, I think he makes them go to church
on Sunday. I think in this and age, I don't

(09:32):
think you could do that. I just don't think. You know,
people are free to do what they want to do,
if they want to go, if they don't want to go.
And when I read that, I mean the way he
was written is like he felt so good about himself
that he's taking his team to church on Sunday and
they have to go. And I don't think a lot
of those athletes or anybody in particular, wants to go
to church. I don't have to go if they don't
want to, right, No.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
But I'm gonna clear this up for you. Because you're
up in Ohio, you're in the Midwest. What I can
tell you have n't been a son of the South,
having lived most of my life in the Bible Belt.
That is appealing to a lot of the moms of
the recruits that send their kids to Clemson. Because Clemson
is in South Carolina, I mean, in the heart of

(10:13):
the Bible Belt. There is an appeal to those old
school values a I'm gonna show you're a young boy
how to become a man under my watch. And part
of that is I'm going to expose them to a
bunch of different things, not that they have to do,
but I'm exposed them to church and the routine and
maybe a way of life that could help them become successful. Now,

(10:34):
they don't have to stick with that. They have the
freedom to not go to that. But I think when
he said that, he's talking about, Hey, we're gonna go
to church on Sundays. I'm gonna take him here. They're
gonna go, They'll have an opportunity to have a total
experience that shapes them into being very successful men when
they leave the program. And because he is quote unquote

(10:54):
regarded as a Bible thumper, there are some people that
take issue with that. He is unapologetic about bringing his
faith into the discussions at the press conference, and everyone
can make a decision on whether they like that or not.
To me, I understand it because I also understand where
he is and I do know the appeal that that
has on a lot of people that grew up in

(11:15):
those areas, those regions South Carolina, Georgia and North Carolina
where they get a lot of their players, a lot
of their players are more in line with how Dabbo
thinks then how the rest of the country may view
that incident or what you're talking about him going to church,
et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
I'm glad you clear that I'm not opposed to going
to church, but I think the way the story was
written is like like, hey, here's the bus, guys, you
better be here at nine o'clock. We're going to ten
o'clock Mass. It just that kind of I'm saying, what
really I mean if you're.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
You know, right, yeah, but you got to know, like
when when when teams, when players go to University of
notre Day, they go to Mass, whether you're Catholic or not,
Like you participate in the thing. Now you have the
freedom because they talk about that Mass being non denominational
or whatever, but you have an opportunity to go to

(12:06):
a place of worship and whatever your faith is, Like
it's not taken away from that, but they operate under
premise that what we do is we go to Mass
and all of those things. So everybody has their own
I think what you have to have as a young
person one clarity, is it mandatory voluntary? Are these things
being pushed on me? Or do I have freedom of

(12:26):
choice when it comes to what I believe in, what
my faith, if I choose to adopt a religious doctrine,
all those things. And so I understand what you're saying.
I do understand your concern, because no one wants necessarily
that pushed down their throat. But I would say, for Dabbo,
it is geographic is part of I would say what

(12:49):
that region believes in and how they buy into it.
And I think he knows it's a selling point for
a bunch of recruits in their families.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Well, I'm glad to clear it up, but I certainly
think there's a major difference between a coach saying his
team has to go to chapel services or church, or
the school's philosophy is that everybody in the school has
to go to chapel services. Now, I worked at ol
Of Roberts University for two years and when I was
hired that no one told me about chapel services. There
was no big whoop. But President Roberts may he Rest

(13:18):
in Peace called me in his office, knowing that I
was Jewish, saying that if you don't feel well going
to Chapel Services, you don't have to go. I went,
the basketball team went, I went. It was no big deal.
Every Wednesday and every Friday between eleven and twelve, the
entire school shut down and everybody went to Chapel Services.
And I went there because I wanted to see it,
I really did. And they had some interesting speakers and
I never saw, you know, people speaking in tongues before

(13:40):
I learned. You know, you have to learn, you know,
you know when in Rome, do what the Romans do.
And I wanted to go, and I did go. But
that's the thing that the coaches didn't make you do it.
It was part of the school's philosophy. So you go,
and that's what that's what I did, and I went
there for two years.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
So yeah, I think I think most schools situations operate
like it was that you talk about chance. The Roberts
gave you the choice and the freedom to go or
not go, and you made the decision to go. Most
of those environments are like that. It is rare that
I've encountered, been around, or heard of things that are

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mandatory when it comes to that. I think We're at
a time where everyone has evolved in terms of respecting
people's freedoms. But I think it's the opportunity to be
exposed to it, and then you have to make the
decision where you want to be exposed to it or not.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Right, I agree with you there speaking of the Carolina So,
I was very upset yesterday because our good friend Bill
Belichick and your school, the tar Heels. You look, you
lose to TCU and the opener. You know, they started
out like a house on fire that game. They lost
the game. I'll give them that. Okay, first game TCU
with old Okay, you lose to UCF and you look

(14:50):
thirty four to nine, and I think North Carolina mantage
is only two hundred and ten hundred and fifteen total
yards and it was like two and a half yards
per carry. I mean really, I mean this team, you
seev was picked in preseason to be last in the
Big twelve preseason poll. Not a good look. Not a
good look for your tar Heels.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
No, not a good look, and even worse when you
really watched it, turned the ball over too much, never
really settled into a rhythm, didn't play well. That falls
on everybody, players, coaches, everything, and so this would be
this disappointment. And certainly when I go to my group
chat with some of our former teammates and those guys,

(15:31):
guys are upset and disappointed. But I think it's man,
I think the people around Carolina have to understand that
it wasn't gonna be an instant or dramatic turnaround right away.
No matter how quickly you want to think that you
can pour water on these situations, it flips. That's the anomaly.
That's why it's really remarkable that Indiana has been able

(15:54):
to do what they've done under Signetti because he took
over a program, transformed it, and they been able to
have success, big success right away. Some of that schedule driven,
but they've had a lot of success. They knocked off
Illinois dominant performance, Carolina has not yet.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah, how does that have sixty three to ten.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
Dominant dominant performance? Like he's a really good coach. He's
kind of putting it in there. They're believing in what
they're doing, and the production and performance speaks for itself.
For Carolina, it's been a slow cook, but I'm still
optimistic after four games. Hey, man, it takes time. Let's
see what this looks like at the end of the year.
Do they improve at the end of the year. But yeah,
certainly not a great performance. Uh the second time did

(16:36):
they played I wouldn't even say a marquee opponent, but
a name brand opponent. They haven't shown up a shown.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Now, let me go back to that Indiana game, because
they rolled over Illinois as say, sixty three to ten,
all right, and they got this quarterback, Fernando Mendoz And
I'm saying to myself, you're saying that he's a great
coach and he could very well be a great coach.
And he came in there with that culture saying that
where here to win and they're gonna win that one
last year and everybody kind of mocked them a little
bit their schedule this week. But you roll over Illinois,
that's a pretty big win. But I'm not so certain

(17:02):
in this day and age, you have to be a
great coach and obviously you always have the great great personnel.
Recruiting is not the answer. The check book is the answer.
Because got this quarterback, Fernando Mendoza. He transferred from California,
so they must have some heavy duty alums that are
paying this guy, a man Thozah big bucks to leave
California to come to Bloomington, Indiana.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
I mean, that's a way of the world. I mean,
that's just that's just what happens. I mean, if you're
gonna be successful, you have to have a quarterback, and
you have to find a way to get a quarterback.
And they found a way to get a quarterback. And
Mendoza when you looked at him at at Ko, he
was solid, but not anything that you know what I'm saying,
you would quote unquote write home about. But he's improved.
He's improved in that offense, in that system. Whatever, sweet nothing, nothing.

(17:48):
Signette's been whispering in his ear. He certainly played at
a high level and it showed up. I mean, it
was a very dominant performance against Illinois. And now it
continues to change the perception on Indiana football what it is,
but more importantly, what it could be, what it can be.
Now we got to kind of keep them in mind
when we talk about the powers in the Big Ten.

(18:09):
The Penn stays to Ohio States, to Michigan's to Oregon. Subtly, quietly,
Indiana's creeping into that conversation as one of those teams
that we always got to talk about.

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Bucky in about twelve minutes. And I'll tell you what.
I want to go back for a second buck to
Thursday night, that Buffalo game hosting the Miami Dolphins, and

(21:25):
you know everybody's laughing, is to be a runaway two
touchdown favorite, whatever it may be. Really and truly two plays,
who's thirty one twenty one Bills win? And since twenty
nineteen the Dolphins are eight and thirteen I believe against
against this team. So it's not a good look and
it's not a good look for the Dolphins. But really,
two plays they're roughing the kicker against the Dolphins, and

(21:46):
of course the interception tour through when what was it,
Terrell Bernard got in front of Jalen Waddel and that
was that was basically the game right there. I mean,
so really, when you look at these games, they're so close,
so they really are. These teams. There's not that much
of separation between teams in this league on every single Sunday.
So I don't know how these gamblers get it done.

(22:07):
They blow my mind, they really do. But these teams
are really close. One or two players will get it done.
And that's what happened on Thursday night.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
I mean, that's typically what it is. The NFL is
a seven point league. Most games are decided about one score,
So execution in those high leverage moments critical. And when
you get great execution, it gives you a chance to
finish off games. But it's about the mistakes. And so
the Miami Dolphins play well enough to be competitive against
a team that's the perennial division champs, they're right there.

(22:40):
It's the execution under pressure. But that execution under pressure
comes down to your habits. And those habits are formed
based on how you hold your people accountable to anything
and everything that they're expected to do, from being on
time punctuality to dress code, how you dress, can you

(23:01):
do all the things that we're asking you to do,
to the way that you go about your meetings, your practice,
all of those things. Those habits carry over, and those
habits show up in those high pressure moments, and that's
why you have to create and establish and maintain great habits,
championship habits. As we caused him to be able to
play at a championship.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Low and I felt pretty good that my guy Olli
Gordon looked pretty good for the Dolphins Thursday night.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
Man, he has a chance to be a good player,
Somny preseason one. Physically he looks like a pro running back.
He has physical traits that were leads to believe that
he could have success. His vision, his balance, his body control,
and his power. Look not his last season at Oklahoma State,
but the season before that, he was terrific. And that's

(23:45):
the version that we thought was gonna be a first
round pick. Didn't happen. But he still can be that
guy and you see it in flashes.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
No doubt about that. And now let's move to today
for a second. You got the Bears that are owing
to a little shocked about that they host the Cowboys
Cowboys in one on one today and this game, we
could talk about how the Cowboys wide receiver Ceedee Lamb
is going to slice up the Bears secondary. Today we'll
talk about maybe the week Bears offense they start it
was strong with a fizzle. Well, we could talk about
the Cowboys running back Javonte Williams. But let's hear from

(24:11):
the Bear's new coach Ben Johnson on how his team
is playing thus far.

Speaker 6 (24:16):
I think our practice habits are yet to reflect the
championship caliber team. What these guys look like when the
ball's not in their hands, that's a big deal for us.
And so there were some plays there yesterday that we
weren't quite as pleased with what that looked like on tape.
And so we're going to find out this week at
practice who wants to practice hard and who wants to

(24:37):
be a little bit more involved with the game plan
here going into Sunday.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Yeah, I thought he'd be a little more upset about
his team's play right now as Ben Johnson. And maybe
he has second thoughts, maybe he never should have left Detroit,
But I guess you want to be a head coach.
That's the name of the game, you know, you want
to be a head coach obviously, right So, and I'm
sure it's a good pay bump for him as well.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
I mean, yeah, it's a good pay bump. But I'll
say this, everything that he said sounded like what we
had the commentary when I was talking about the Miami Dolphins.
When you hear him talk about practice, habits, championship habits,
the way that you go about it, the way that
you finish what you do away from the ball, and
see the things that he's talking about away from the ball,

(25:17):
in the National Football League for a long time, wide
receivers have been able to just get away with not blocking.
When it's a running play, they'll just take the down off,
They'll walk three steps and go back to the huddel.
That's selfish in a team environment. If I don't get
the ball, that means someone else has it. I should
want them to have success like me. So I'm gonna
go work and bust my tail to get on and

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give them the best opportunity to have a big play.
And they're gonna do the same for me. So what
Ben is saying and alluding to, right now, we still
have too many individuals, too many selfish players not buying
into what we're saying. We have to operate as a team,
and when we get all eleven to play together, then
you'll start seeing the performance and the production change. But

(25:59):
right now, it may be nine guys doing the right thing,
two guys not doing it. It may be ten and one,
eight and three. We need all eleven doing the right stuff,
and it starts in practice. That's what he's talking about.
We won't play well until we start practicing better.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Well. I mean, I could have said that too, and
I'm not a head coach, But you know what the heck?
You know, I have no NFL experience with them. Next
game I coach would be my first. But there's a
bigger story about that game. There's a bigger story about
the Bears Cowboys game. Today, the game is on Fox
and the NFL's new twelfth man, Tom Brady's gonna be
doing the color on that game with Fox, and I
gotta believe there's a conflict of interest. Perhaps, perhaps maybe

(26:34):
it's just a perception because Brady is a part owner
of the Raiders, and obviously next week the Bears are
playing at the Raiders. Brady's that minority Raiders owner, So
could he take information from there? Could he scout them?
I mean, what is he gonna do? Because there are
no secrets in the National Football League. Let's listen to
what Ben Johnson has to say. Is he concerned that

(26:55):
maybe Tom Brady is a super scout as well as
a color commentator.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Like I said, I'm really not worried about.

Speaker 6 (27:01):
I mean, we change week the week in terms of
what we do schematically, He's going to be able to
turn on the tape and see what everyone else in
the world's seeing right now.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
Personnel. WI is really the same thing.

Speaker 6 (27:11):
It's not like I'm gonna sit down with them and hey,
don't do this to Caleb Williams or you might get
it like I'm not going there's not gonna be any
trade secrets that are going to be exchanged. But I
just I really don't think it's that big of a deal,
to be honest with.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Well, maybe it's not. And obviously it wasn't that big
a deal for the National Football LEAGUEAU they gave him
the approval to be a minority owner and still go
to Fox and do the gangs. But obviously there are
no secrets. But the real issue, I guess for Brady
scouting players also maybe free agents. He's going to get
the jump on free agents that have come out there
after the season is over, maybe looking for coaches, maybe

(27:44):
looking for possible coordinators. Not so much for game planning,
but for the bigger picture. I think that when the
free agency comes along, that's bigger to me than weekly
scouting reports. I think the perception factor that he can
be scouting for the Raiders is out there, and I
don't know over such that's a good look or not.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
I think everybody on the outside is making it a
bunch bigger deal than what it is. There are no
secrets in the National Football League. Everything is visible. Everybody
knows what other people are doing. It comes down to
execution on Sundays. There's this novelty in our industry where
we think, oh man, we can orchestrate the surprise. We're
going to keep this under wraps. We're gonna spring it

(28:23):
on them. That happens on occasion, but it's rare. It's
rare that you don't know what people are doing. It's
rare that you don't know the habits of the coordinator.
Everyone knows what calls are coming. It's about your ability
to get your players to execute and do it. But
coaches know, coaches know what other coaches like to do.
We all have pet calls, we all have these creatures

(28:45):
of habit. We all go back to the same things
under pressure. It's about getting our guys to execute. Brady
the only advantage that he has in terms of talking
to people and being around or whatever. It's some of
what you talk about. He talks to a bunch of
different coaches. He has a leg up on Pull in
terms of just meeting people and doing those things. But
a lot of this is the paranoia that hovers around

(29:09):
our industry. Oh my god, we got to hide everything.
Oh my god, that's why I gotta cover my lips
because they can read. They can read my play cause
even though there's no way in real time I could
get that down to the players, so they know. All
of this stuff comes from a place of fear as
opposed to a place of confidence, like, yeah, man, y'all
know what we're doing, you still can't stop it. There's
a supreme confidence, and I would call athletic arrogance that

(29:31):
you have to have to be a championship team. Paranoid
doesn't get you that way. So Ben Johnson, what he's
telling you is, hey man, it doesn't matter if they
know what we're doing, If we're doing what we're supposed
to do, they can't stop it. Anyway.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Why is this coming out now? I don't care it.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
I mean, just like every segment that we've talked about,
there are people that we know if we put them
in a sentence, a conversation aheadline, it is going to
draw a reaction. Tom Brady is always going to get
a response one way or the other. Because there are
people that feel like, oh, he cheated the Flakegate, the Patriots.
They don't like him. There's an envy because he's the

(30:08):
all American boy who's also the ultimate winner. All of
those things show up. So that's what it is, is Brady.
We're gonna tell stuff about Brady. You don't think broadcasters
Troy Aiman. You don't think Troy Agne has ties to
the Cowboys. You don't think if Troy Aikman on his
production call found some information that if he wanted to,
he could give Jerry Jones to those guys a call like,

(30:30):
hey man, heads up, be aware of that every player
that is in the booth has a tie to one
or more of their former teams. So there's an adherent
trust factor that has to exist when you're a professional.
Professionalism over everything, and so Tom Brady just happens to
be a headline name. That's why we're talking about it.
But you can say those same things about any broadcaster

(30:51):
that attends a production meeting.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
That's a good call. It really is. By the way,
speaking of close, we have Wayne Wayne is in Los
Angeles wants to talk to Bucky Brooks right here on
Fox Football Sunday. Wayne go ahead, my friend.

Speaker 7 (31:02):
Good morning, and then Buckie, thank you for taking my car.
I always have a great Sunday listening.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
To you guys.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Are you you other one? Wayne?

Speaker 7 (31:14):
You guys got to help me, especially you BUCkies, Omrion
Hampton and asking Genty. Now the charger is supposed to
be built with Hobball running the ball the other night
O Marion Hampton couldn't get it gone Genty. He started out,
he ran through a guy, and I don't know why

(31:37):
Pete Carroll didn't keep on pushing him. And now I'm like,
if you had the draft to do again, why not
draft Will Campbell instead of asking Genty? You know, tell
me out buck.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Well up man. I think that's the big that's a
big conversation. It has been heightened because on ESPN it
was talked about in an open form about asking Genty,
not having it or not being special. I would say this,
watching Ashton Genty at Boys State and studying him, he
certainly had great contact balance, he had great vision, he
had big playability in those things. But I will say this,

(32:15):
players are like popcorn kernels. You know how you can
cook popcorn andy. You can put it all in the
same pot, same weyal same heat, but the popcorn pops
at different times. It's the same thing. We don't know.
Even though Ashton genty was a first round pick, we
don't know when it's going to click for him, when
all the things that the coaches are telling them are
going to pop. In terms of his performance, but I

(32:37):
will say this, he has special ability. He runs through tackles.
He has to be given more chances to touch it
to be able to show what he can do. And
that will happen in time. Obviously, Pete Carroll is on it.
He talked about opportunities. He needs more touches to get
it going. I would think after a performance like that
that they'll make sure that he touches it enough to

(32:58):
have an impact on the game.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Wayne, are you satisfied now?

Speaker 7 (33:02):
Well, you know I'm gonna look for him against Washington today. Andy,
and thank you guys for taking my call. Y'all have
a great Sunday, and God bless all.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Right Back at you, back at you? Ain't all right?
Very interesting about that, Bucky. I knew you'd have the
answer for me. You made his day, Yes you did.
He's Bucky Brooks on Ady Firman. We are Fox Football
Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. The answer man cometh. That's
Bucky Brooks because asked Bucky is next as Bucky coming
right up. It's about thirteen minutes, not before the top

(33:33):
of the hour. This is Fox Football Sunday. You know
why because they play football on Sunday on Fox Sports
Radio and we're alive from the Fox Sports Radio studios.
He's Bucky Brooks and Ay Firman and away we go
and Bree, do you have a question for ask Bucky?

Speaker 8 (33:46):
I do?

Speaker 9 (33:47):
Okay, So, between Tyrod Taylor, Marcus Mariota, and Carson Wentz, Bucky,
who do you think has the most chance to kind
of like stand out and make an impact?

Speaker 3 (33:56):
I would say that Marcus Mariota probably has the best chance,
only because the team around him is better. When you
think about Deebo, Samuel Terry McLaurin, Jacorey like, they just
have more around him to be able to be successful.
That's why he just has to manage it. He doesn't
need to be the whole game.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Now write that down. Will challenge him next week. Okay, Bucky,
what are the surprises you've noticed after the first two
weeks of the NFL play.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
Baker Mayfield playing at an MVP level. The fact that
the last two weeks he's been able to put the
team on his back when they need it for game
winning drives speaks volumes about how far he's come for me,
the guy that was on scout team in Carolina to
now being the franchise quarterback of the team that leads
the division in which Carolina plays in. To me, that's
the biggest surprise.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Okay, now, we touched about Ben Johnson and the Bears
a little bit in the previous segment, but really and
truly what has gone wrong now with the Ben Johnson
Caleb Williams marriage thus far in Chicago.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
They need more time together, more time on task together.
And Caleb Williams, for all of those bad habits that
he has, he has to break them, and Ben Johnson
has to break him. And the only way that you
can do it is you got to keep showing them
on tape. This is not the way that we need
you to play. You got to play on time, on schedule,
on target, all those things. And whenever they break those

(35:19):
bad habits, then they have a chance to succeed. But
right now he still falls back into those old ways.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
All right, Now the debate continues. We watch the game
the other day between the Eagles and the Kansas City Chiefs,
and once again it raised its ugly head and it's
not really ahead right now. It's a tush the tush push.
And Andy Reid, the coach of the Chiefs, said, there's
a problem over here. I want to know, why is
it so difficult to officiate the tush push, because now
there's some complaints on the part of the Chiefs that

(35:47):
there was some movement on the line prior to the snap.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
Look, man, I'm just tired of everyone whining about it.
Like everyone has an opportunity to run the same play.
They have mastered it. That why they convert that a
ninety percent clip. Yeah, it's hard to officiate because it's
a rugby scrub. Everyone is there. It's down the movement,
the anticipation on both sides of the snap, all of
that can make it difficult. But like, everybody has an

(36:13):
opportunity to run the same play and they just don't,
and they run it better than anybody else, So theyn't
need to quit wine and didn't play against it, right, I.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Mean, but now it looks to me like they may
be voting on that again, they may vote that.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Out maybe, But even if they do, that's I mean,
it's a bunch of babies, Like they got to quit
being babies. I just hate babies and whiners and all
that other stuff. Figured it out.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
They just stop it, you know, if you don't like it,
stop the play, you know, don't don't let it happen. Really,
that's all I'm saying. Or get some three hundred and
fifty pounds linemen like the Eagles have, and you'll be
able to run it yourself.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
Yeah, it's a big part of it. Yeah, that's a
big part of it. Figured it out, quit wine.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
How surprised are you now with the two and zero
start for Daniel Jones and the Indianapolis Colts.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
Here's what I say. I am not surprised because I
felt like this was the perfect place for him to grow.
Shane Stikeen has done it successfully with quarterbacks athletic quarterbacks
before Daddy Dins has played enough games and he understands
how to play winning football. And what he has is
a better cast did he ever had around him in
New York. You put a decent quarterback with better players,
he can play at a good level. That's what we

(37:23):
were seeing with Danny Dimes.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Yeah, I'll talk about surprises earlier. Last week, Ucla and
Virginia Tech made some of the earliest college coaching changes
that I could ever remember. I mean, I've never seen
that in college, you know, getting rid of coaches that
early in the year, Ucla Virginia Tech. How surprised were
you with that move?

Speaker 3 (37:44):
Very surprised that it happened so soon? Right in terms
of you just don't I mean after three games. If
I'm firing you after three games, that means I didn't
have a whole lot of confidence in you when I
brought you back, and so you probably should have poor
the plug at the end of the season if you
felt that strongly. I mean, that's really what it tells you,

(38:05):
because after three games, what really shows up nothing. The
feelings that you had in the off season remained, but
you were scared to pull the trigger. And now what
you do with you in essence ruined two seasons, because
the end of last year and the beginning of this
year are now washed.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
I've heard you just say I was shocked about that.
Could you now say and I'm going to say it
right now, the team to beat in the Big Twelve
this year is going to be Texas Tech.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
Yes, you can say that. And the reason why the
reason the reason I would say one they got the
best roster that money can buy. So people aren't necessarily
surprised at that, right, they're not surprised that that that
is what is transpired. But it's more so to play
in between the lines, being able to get it going,
making sure that they had this kind of success that

(38:54):
they have it at home. In a way, man, that's
absolutely what you want to see.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
Right And I tell you, I you look at Texas
Tech and then on the other side of the coin
you look at Wisconsin and Wisconsin losing to Maryland. I
mean that's like a no, no Again. I'm thinking it's
not so much Luke Fickle can't coach because he did
a whale of a job at Cincinnati. The point is
that he probably doesn't have guys that's sticking their hands
in their wallet and writing checks to get players. Isn't

(39:20):
that what it's all about?

Speaker 3 (39:22):
Yeah, some of that is definitely dead. Like you got
to make sure that you have you got had the players,
Like we're only as good as the players that we
have and you got to stroke a check. You gotta
write a big check to make sure that happens.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
Amazing. I can't believe it. Okay, Sean McDermott to me,
most underrated coach in the NFL. If he's not Bucky
Brooks said, tell me who is.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
Man? Sean McDermott is really good. He is. Look, I'll
say this, Jonathan Gannon is done a really good job
down in the desert. Does get enough credit for the
Cardinals jumping out to a t and oh start, for
them being competitive the last half of the season, ump
and into it. So yeah, Sean McDermott is the OGI
because he's done it for a long time. But keep
an eye on Jonathan Yanny. He's done a really good
job too.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Do you want to ask me a question? I'm tired
of asking you questions. Is there anything you want to
ask me? Because I probably don't have any answer to you?

Speaker 3 (40:14):
You do, I got you? How much do you believe
in Jake Browning and the Cincinnati Bengals? Are you a believer?

Speaker 2 (40:19):
No, I'm really not. I just I just think that
it's an entirely different office. Yeah, they may have t
Higgins and they may have. You know Jamar Chase on
the outside, but it's not gonna be the same, and
it's gonna go to the run game and they can't run,
so that's gonna be it. All right, Stay with us.
Bucky has a top ten list. Next right here a Fox.

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Don't listening to Fox Sports.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
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(41:45):
today it's Foxsports dot com. And I looked at it.
It's a goodie. You got the top ten this week,
and I gotta believe there's some surprises in there. Let's
forget the suspense and get into number one. How long
did it take you to do this? Deal? Because I
love this kind of the list? Really do top ten
as of the first two weeks of the season.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
I mean, like you try and react right after, right
after the games and those things, so it's right away,
like it's instantaneous. A lot of time.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
All right, here we go. Now you have number one.
You know a lot of times these people are gonna
give you the suspense. They go Tan and go down
to one. No, I'm gonna start with one. I'm gonna
start with one because there's a lot of surprise. I
don't think there's no surprise yere, because you got the
Philadelphia Eagles, number one, the defending chairs. And I'll say
this much. You could talk about personnel all you want.
You could talk about even coaching. I'm gonna say the

(42:34):
most valuable person in an entire organization. And I don't
know him from Adam is Howie Roseman, here's the guy
puts the team together. I think the guy is a
football genius and he never played the game. I did
a bio in this guy. I read about him. He
went to Fordham Law School, wanted to work in the
National Football League. He wrote letters. I love the guy.
He wrote letters. He wrote letters to every team asking

(42:56):
for a job. He finally got a job in the
National Football League. And I think he's one of the best,
if not the best.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
Look, man, he's great, and he's great because he understands
exactly division that he has for the team. They are
willing to look. Man, they'll pull the plug on mistakes
right away. They don't try and justify those mistakes when
they make them. They rectify him quickly, and then they're bold.
They always have enough in the war chest to make

(43:23):
a move where they need to make it. This has
been a team that has always kind of been on
the edge of forward thinking. They pay their guys early.
They'd rather pay him too much too soon, rather than
wait and overpay for what they have. They just have
a clear sense of how they want to operate. It's
one of the reason why the Eagles are on top
now and why they're gonna be in that conversation for
a while.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
You know, it's funny because you've always said that the
NFL is a copycat league. If they've got so much success,
why aren't the others copying what they do? Now? Today's
gonna be a pretty goodie, it really is. Rams Eagles
today at Philadelphia. Game is on Fox one o'clock Eastern.
Both teams undefeated at two and zer and the Rams
did lose to the Eagles not once but twice last

(44:04):
year because you know why, they couldn't stop Sae Kwon Barkley.
That's the name of the game in that game.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
I mean, Tae Kwon Barkley's a beast. He hasn't gone
off yet. But he's always there. This is a really
good game in terms of being able to see where
the Rams are. The Rams to me are on the
fringe of being a title team. They're there, they have
all the pieces in place, but I need to see
them knock off the heavyweight to fully believe in buy in.
So that's why this is huge for them. Their confidence there, standing,

(44:32):
the respect, and then for the champs, it's another opportunity
to vanquish a challenger. Can they continue to do it?
Because as the champ, when you begin to continue to
dismantle and remove all of those challengers, you begin to
have that psychological advantage when we're going to the postseason
when you have to play some of these teams again.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
All right, so you got them at number one, number two.
I kind of looked at that and scratched my head
a little bit. You got the green Bay Packers. Obviously
the Michael Parson deals probably the best. Right Well, I
thought Buffalo. I thought the Buffalo Bills might be number two.
I mean, what was the reason behind you a deal?
But Buffalo number three in green Bay two?

Speaker 3 (45:16):
I think Green Bay is a super Bowl team And
I'm just waiting for the opportunity to put them at
number one because they built the right way. Michael Parson
gives them a dominant defense. That defense doesn't surrender a
lot of points. Offensively, they can run it through Josh
Jacobs or Jordan Love.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
They have complete balance on their roster, not a glaring hole,
not a glaring weakness. And in the postseason it comes
down to star power. So if you want me to
compare the Packers to the Bills, I would say the
star power is built for the Green Bay Packers to
have success because on defense in particular, they have stars.

(45:52):
The Buffalo Bills are a collective unit. They get it done. Uh,
it kind of an unheralded fashion. But in those moments
when you need someone to make a play, there are
more guys on the Packers that are brand names that
are known for making plays more so than the Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
And today the Packers are playing the Cleveland Browns and
Cleveland package two and oh Browns zero and two. And
I feel for Joe Flacop because he may be on
his rear end a couple of times today with that defense,
that pressure defense on quarterbacks that the Packers have, so
that that's gonna happen there. Okay, And the Michael Parsons
edition I think makes Green Bay maybe the best defense

(46:28):
in the league right now.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
Agreed, Uh, yeah, I think so. I think it's the
combination of players in scheme. But yeah, in Jeff Haflee's
Seaball Getball scheme, yeah, they're terrific. He's a terrific edition.
He gives them an instant pass rusher, someone that can
create pressure right away. And the more pressure you can
create at the point of attack, the more the turners

(46:50):
begin to come. And we've seen he's had an impact
right away, not only on the secondary but also on
his cast as front linemates. All of those guys can
get busy because if attention is on number one at
the point of attack.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
Okay, we talked about coaching the guys that may be underrated.
We talk about Sean McDermott that got you got Buffalo's
number three. I think Matt Lafleur is right up there
as well. I mean, these two guys are tremendous coaches
in the National Football League, Lafleur and McDermott.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
So Buffalo's three, right, Yeah, I mean Buffalo's right there.
Workman like team. They have all the things Josh Allen
can put on the Cape at any time and take
it over. You have to have some of that, all right.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
You got the Charges at number four, and that's big.
I mean Jim Harbor. You know, Jim Harbor might be
and this is a stretch. When all is said and done,
he may be one of the greatest coaches of all time.
What he's done in college, now what he's doing in
the National Football League. Do you agree the Charges are

(47:45):
hosting the Broncos today. They're undefeated at too and O.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
Yeah, they are undefeated, and he does understand how to
win it. He has a way of building the confidence
of players who struggle before his arrival, but then they
play like superstars when he gets I think about Quinton
Johnson and how we were told that he can't catch,
you can't make a play, former first run out of
TCU and all we have seen since Jim Harbor has arrived.
He makes big plays down the field. He's been what

(48:11):
they thought he was going to be when he came
into the league. He does that. He does that for
so many and they have a proven program that works.
And if you look at his track record, this year.
She'd been the charge of you to go to the
super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
Here you go. I mean, he's something else, he really is.
I mean, and you look. I love the guy because
he got to Michigan just in time, you know what
I mean. He you know, I'm not saying he was
involved with what the situation happened in Michigan with the
scatting reports and whatever it may have been. But as
a head coach is a somewhat CEO of the organization.

(48:45):
You're responsible. It's kind of like what happened with Rick
Petina with Louisville. You know they had these the hookahs
and the dorms or whatever it may be. Said he
didn't know anything about it. Well you have to. It's
your program. Everything underneath you is your responsibility. But he bolted.
He went out there. And the funny thing is Nancy
Duble is the greatest. They gave him, what a ten
year deal that he can't coach in college anymore. He

(49:06):
ain't coming back Harvard's not gonna come back to college anymore.
This may be his last stand. Coach the charges a
couple of more years and then go to Hawaiian, relax
and retire. That's what he's gonna do.

Speaker 3 (49:18):
Yeah, I mean that's that's what he is going to do.
I mean he's a great I mean he's a great coach.
I mean he's a great coach. I don't know if
he'll ever retired though. I mean I think he'll just
continue to play it out and live in an RV somewhere,
Like he talked about, he just loves I.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Love his intensity on the sideline. I mean he's always
crouching down, hands on his knees and just like involved
in like it looks like he wants to get on
the field and play. Really it really does. I Mean
some coaches are sitting back whatever it may be, and
they're too busy talking on the headsets. But he is involved,
I mean on the sidelines. I didn't even think he
was headsets does I don't, I don't recall now, Yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
Think I think he does. But he doesn't call plays
or anything. He's a he's an old school head coach.
He calls the game. He managed the entire operation, and
that's why they've had a lot of success. He manages
the operation. He knows what everyone is doing. He keeps
everyone in line, and that's why they went no doubt about.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
That number five team. You got the Rams, and the
Rams are going to Philadelphia at tennant to play Eagles
to undefeated teams at two and one.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
You call the.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
Rams a blue collar squad? What does that mean? Blue collar?

Speaker 3 (50:26):
Look? Man, I'll say this about Sean McVeigh and in
La haveing lived there. It's a city that is so
accustomed to showtime Lakers, flashy Dodgers and all of that stuff.
And what he has been able to do is he
has been able to fashion this team into a blue
collar team. They run the football, they play physical on defense,

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they get after it. They understand how to harass people
in a way that look physicality, violence, toughness. They play
that way. That's not typically what you would associate with Temseltown.
That's not normally how Hollywood operates. You think about pretty
and finesse. That's not the Rams. And because they can
flip styles from being a physical team or a team

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that can throw it all over the yard with Matthew Stafford,
they're very, very difficult to deal with. That's why they'refore
I mean, that's why they're right behind the Chargers on
that list. They're five, But man, they could easily put
them up to two or three, and I'm waiting for
a notable win to put them up there.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Are you gonna do this every week? It's just just
a one shot deal.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
Nah, every week. Man, every week it's their early Monday morning.
The only problem that I have is those those Monday
night games. Sometimes they're not included, so I have to guesstimate.
So when you see the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Charger,
they had to guess that they were gonna be there,
that they were gonna win their games, you know, So
sometimes I could look foolish. If the Sunday, the Monday
night game goes.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
Around, well, now you got a tough because there's a
heck of a game tomorrow night. The Lions are playing
in Baltimore against the Ravens. That's gonna be a toughie.
Both teams are one and one right now. And you know,
Lamar Jackson to me and I loved him when he
went to Louisville. He's one of the this is I
know it sounds stupid, but he's one of the few guys.
When there was a story in the paper, I clipped
it out mailer to him at Louisville and he wrote
me back, Okay, that never happens. I don't expect it,

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but the fact that he did, I mean, he's high
on my list right now. But the problem with Lamar
Jackson and the other day when they announced that Clayton
Kersheer was going to retire from the Dodgers, and Clayton
had great regular season redcords whatever, you know, first ballot,
Hall of Fame and no doubt, but when it came
to the playoffs, he kind of gassed out. And the
same thing with Lamar. And I thought about that for

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a second, and wait a second. Clayton kershew is going
through a season of one hundred and sixty two games.
Maybe he just didn't have anything left by the time
they get to the playoffs. Maybe that's it. Maybe the
same thing with Lamar. People say, well he can't play
under the big lights. That's garbage. I don't believe that.
If you're a pro, you're a pro, it doesn't bother you.
You're playing on Monday night football, that's big lights too.

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You got everybody in the league watching you on that
Monday night game. So I just think that maybe after
playing seventeen games and you go to the playoffs. Right now,
the legs are a little the ams a little looser.
I mean, it's just and you're all banged up every
week you're getting banged up. Is that a possibility, Yeah,
that is a possibility.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
You can get beat up, you know you can. You
can you can burn out. You can use all your
gas up in the regular season not have anything left
in the postseason. Yeah, that's the thing. And you have
to understand how to manage that, how to keep that
in check. But I mean, those are good problems to
have because you can't win the deal until you're in
the deal. And by having great regular season success, that

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gives you a chance to have your those postseason failures.
And you at least want to have a shot to
be able to do it one way or the other.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
So what are you gonna do now? Because tomorrow night
you're gonna have to make the pick before that Lions
Ravens game. And last week the Lions had five different
guys that scored touchdowns in their game last week? What
are you gonna do?

Speaker 3 (53:49):
Are you?

Speaker 2 (53:50):
Are you picking the Lions? But the game is in Baltimore,
which means something, But who do you like in this
gun is a toughie.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
Yeah, it's a toughie right now. If you have to
tell me, I'm gonna go with the Baltimore raven when
they're playing your home too, they had the better roster
and there's more continuity in these big games. There's a
trust factor has to exist, not only in terms of
what the plan is, but what is the adjustment gonna
be if they knock off that first plan and if
they snuff out that first plan, how do we get
to play? And b do you have trust in the

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coordinators with new bees that coordinated for the Lions. I'm
leaning towards the Ravens just because of that factor.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
I like that list. I like Lamoar, He's my guy. Okay,
this is a shocker. And believe me, if someone would
have told you that you're gonna put together a list
after the second week and you're gonna put the Indianapolis
Colts at seven, you would have left in their face.
Especially if I would have said that, right, Colts are two,
and I would have played after Titans and Tennessee oh
and two? All right? And then number seven? Right now?

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Who knows, like you said that Daniel Jones could play
at a Pro Bowl level after being dismissed in New York,
and today they're gonna be three and oh they're probably
gonna be Tennessee.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
In Tennessee, I mean yeah, I mean, look, here's what
I'll say about the Colts. The Coats find the quarter
found the quarterback Anthony Richison. Now we have evidence Anthony
Richison was holding the Colts back. And Daniel Jones has
allowed Shansdyke and to utilize the entire playbook. The skilled
players around Daniel Jones terrific, great offensive line. And then

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lou and Aroumo, the guy that you guys didn't want
to be in Cincinnati was going to Indianapolis. He's going
to Indianapolis and really made them a look a top
flight defense with a lot of creativity that gives offensive
coordinator problems. That's working.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
How happy much lou Anoumo be right now? I mean,
no one likes to see anybody get hurt, right, I
mean Joe Burrow right now. And everybody's saying, hey, you know,
Joe Burrow will be bad three month. No, they don't
realize how serious this turf toe thing is. He'd be
better off if he had a broken leg than having
turf toe, right, don't you think? I think so.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
Yeah, it's a pain in the neck. I mean it's yeah,
because you just don't unders staying like if you just
move around, man, your big toe is central to every
movement that you have, and when it's painful to put
pressure on or you can't fully utilize it, it limits
what you can do. That's why the surgery is so

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and that's why he's talking about three months to fully
rehab from that. Even then it still may never be
the same.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Well, you know Jack Lambert didn't he his career was
ended because the turf toe, wasn't it. I believe it
was when the Steelers. I think he had turf toe.
He had a quit. He couldn't play anymore. And I'm
not wishing the kiss of death, believe me on Joe Burrow.
But I'm saying this. The fans here are going bananas.
They're like in morning and they say, well, the doctors
say three months. So here's my take. Okay, say the

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Bengals like four and six going into December, and that's
three months. He'd be out of his freaking mind to
want to come back and play. If they're four and six.
Was you're playing for nothing anyway, it could be injured.
He My feeling is this, he's gone for the year.
He's not playing. This is forget it. He will not
see number nine on the Bengals play anymore this year.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
I think you may see him. I think he'll figure
out really kind of get back in the mix. Yeah,
I think you see him play. If they're in contention,
I have no doubt that they're trying to figure out
a way to get him on the mix.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
Wow. I love to hear that. Okay, all right, speaking
of contenttion, you got Tampa Bay there number eight on
your list and the bucket Brooks looks Tampa Bay is
number eight, and it's all it's all Baker Mayfield. Really,
I mean it is a guy came back from the dead.
He really did. It's unbelievable. They are playing the Jets
today in Tampa. Jets on two, Buccaneers two and oh,

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i'd say right now, there'll be three and oh. I
mean the Jets they just can't catch a break. I
mean they can't get on the scoreboard. And they got
Tyrod Taylor playing quarterback today replacing Justin Fields. Although they're
similar in the sense that they run the football, but
Tyrod does not run as good as well as Justin
Fields and Tyron's getting up in the age. Bracter there,

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So Tampa Bay is number eight, right, you like that?

Speaker 3 (57:58):
Yeah, Tampa's number eight. Baker Mayfield factor, Baker Mayfield playing well,
toy bows defense going bananas, and then just the fire
prowerty that they have. They have a lot of confidence, man,
because they kind of fly under the radar. No one
talks about them, but they're always one of the top teams.
I mean, they've won a division four years in a row.
That speaks volumes about their consistency. They understand, they have

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a pedigree, they know who they are. They play to
their strengths, and they're tough out.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Number nine, Detroit, number ten, San Francisco and the shocker
the Kansas City Chiefs did not make Bucky Brooks top ten.
All right? No, I mean, regardless, is that really a shocker?

Speaker 3 (58:36):
They're owing too.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
Where you did it on the record? I mean, is
it the roster or the record that kind of pushed
you aside that you didn't put them in the top ten.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
It's how they play, It's what we've seen, Like they're
owing two they're struggling on offense. They can't score. I
mean defensively they're fine, but Philadelphia didn't bring their a
game and control the game for most parts of it. Look, man,
you can't. You can't continue to give them grades off
reputation like they have to earn those things. And they're

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not a top ten team right now. Maybe they can
get back into it, but they're not a top ten team.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
How do you like that? I love it.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
Next, you can want me to have the Cowboys in there.
You won't want me to have the Cowboys in it
just because of the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
You're tough, You're tough, right, He's Bucky Brooks. He's a
tough he's a tough teacher. He really is. Hey, by
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here's a record. This is an amazing record. It really is. Buck.
Through two weeks of the NFL season right now, the
Cleveland Browns have given up just three hundred and eighty
three total yards. I know they're on to two, but
they're the first team in thirty one years to start
on to two giving up less than four hundred total
yards through two games. How do you like? That doesn't
mean anything? Stats mean nothing, They mean nothing because they

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just they can't win and then I'm winning. That's the
way it is.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
Yeah, that's tough. I'm not surprised that they haven't been winning.
I am surprised that they've been able to keep the
opponent down like that in terms of production. Uh, you
just don't. You just don't have the wins the show
for it. That's problematic.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
Now. I don't know if you've been on any teams
that have been oh to tow at on and two start?

Speaker 7 (01:02:46):
Have you?

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
No? I mean, oh to two is such a tough thing, man,
It's just such a tough way to start. You know,
no doubt, you lose all other stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
You know, you want to get that first win. And
I think that this is the time of the season
when you're on two your butt starts to get real tight.
For coaches as well, it's like, you know, we gotta
break it. We've got to break our virginity right now
and get it done. We got to get our first win.
And there's pressure and like all of a sudden, the
finger pointing starts. I think this is where coaches really
earn their keep because you could really lose the locker

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room right now, I believe, don't you think.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
Yeah, yeah, you can. And you got to do a
really good job of kind of staying true to who
you are and not losing sight of the plan and
understanding all that other stuff, and just just really staying
with it, staying with your playing, staying with your process.
You gotta believe in you gotta believe in what you've
planned out, and then you gotta adapt and adjust accordingly.
But you can't just abandon after two.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
Games, no doubt about that. You can't quit. You gotta
keep on rolling. But it's gonna be tough for some
teams because now it's time for the understudies, and today
there's gonna be five. That's unbelievable. And for the uninformed
and understudy in theater is to back up to the
star star is sick or he's not going to be
performing that night on stage. So they got understudies and
there's five of them going today and one of them

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is Jake Browning who is four and three as a starter,
Joe Burrow expected to miss three months. He was placed
on injured reserve on Monday. And after the operation, I
think it was in Georgia, Zach Taylor came out and
said the operation was a success. And all my years
following sports, watching sports, listening to sports, I have never
heard of a coach or any official of any team

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after an injured player and it gets operated saying I
got news for you guys. The operation wasn't a success.
I've never heard that. It's always a success, right. It
won't be a success in my mind until I see
Joe Burrow on the field playing football again, then it's
a success, right, Not a success?

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
After the operation, well, I mean if they said he
went through without complications, I guess there would be a
success but yeah, like I mean, you've rather them say
it was successful and unsuccessful because they means they're gonna
have to operate again. Right, Yeah, it's not it's not ideal,
you know, in terms of trying to figure out that
you know, what he's gonna be, when is he gonna

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be able to come back, how he's gonna be able
to perform when he does come back, all of those
other things.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
So well, I would say this, this is a great
opportunity for Jake Browning because I think there's big money
at the end of the rainbow if he could get
this team into the playoffs. Because I'm not thinking that's
why he wants to play. I think he wants to win.
I think the team has confidence in this guy. He
knows the system. He's been there, done that before. But look,
I think he's got to go in the center. They
say that Joe Burrow his situation is that he likes

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to take it from a shotgun because he likes to
see the entire defense setting up. And when you do that,
you know, it's a little more difficult for the offensive
line just to hold him. And they didn't hold him,
and Job ended up with the turf toe deal. So
so now you're gonna see Jake Browning not from the gun,
but under center. So we'll see what happens.

Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
Well, well, here's what happens when it comes from under center.
Under center to play action is better because the quarterback
turns his back to the defense. It also allows you
to set up different compliments with the running game and
those things. So what may look like a negative on
the surface good turn out to be a positive when
they get into it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
All right, what do you think though, you think it's
your shot for the playoffs for this team with Jake.

Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
Browning, Well, I mean I suggested when you start out
two and oh, you have a seventy six percent chance
of making the playoffs. So yeah, they got more than
the shot. They got to hold on. And I'll say
this a couple of years ago, Jake Browning had them
on the cups of being in the postseason. I remember
two years ago that because the Jaguars were eight and three,
they come down on a Monday night, Jake Browning starts,

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knocks the Jaguars off, and they fall apart for the
next two seasons. Meanwhile, the Big Gules climb into contention
and they don't make it, but they finished nine and eight.
There's a lot of confidence in that building in him
and look man that that just gives them a chance.
He's a solid put player.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
Be tough during Denver next week and the following week
they hosted Detroit Lions, so we'll see what happens there.
Let's move along to another understudy. His name is Carson Wentz,
who knows the system of Minnesota. JJ McCarthy's return date,
they say, is unknown, but he's not expected to be
out as long as borrow. He'll be out for a
couple of weeks. Believe it or not. They played at
Bengals Day they host. The Vikings host the Bengals this afternoon.

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The Vikings star Wentz. This week McCarthy had that high
ankle sprain and Wentz it's been around the league since
twenty twenty. He's played in Philadelphia, Indianapolis, Washington, LA with
the Rams, and Kansas City, so we'll see what happens there.
But way back when he was a number two pick
back in twenty twenty one, he did throw for over

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thirty five hundred yards and twenty seven touchdowns. Does the
magic still come back? Can he get it done? Does Carson.
I mean, I think they may be better off for
Carson Wentz right now than JJ McCarthy anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:07:47):
No, absolutely not. I'm not buying yet at all. What
I would say is Carson Wentz can maybe win a
game or two with them, just based on his experience
in Kevin O'Connell's expertise. But yeah, in no world would
I say that Carson Wentz is a better option than J. J.
McCarthy for the Vikings right now. That's it. The Vikings

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have enough players around Carson Wentz that he should be
able to kind of guide his team to the winner circle.
He just has to stay within himself, and I think
Kevin O'Connor has to understand what he's dealing with. He
has a guy who is a little bit of a
scattershot thrower. He's not gonna be Look, you have to know,
he's gonna throw some ground balls and some floaters and
they canna be off to mark, but they will be

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able to get back on track in time. If they
just kind of lean on their best players, they have
an opportunity to get back on track.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
All right now. Another understudy in New York with the Jets,
Tarrod Taylor's a Tyrod Taylor and Justin feels out. They
don't know what his timeline is, but he's gonna miss
at least they say one game. But it won't be
much of a change because I think the offense right
there is a running offense, and both of these quarterbacks
have that running skill. It's a mobile quarterback, just like

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Justin fields is. So I think things will still say
the same, which really isn't good news for the Jets
because I don't think they're gonna win.

Speaker 3 (01:09:08):
Wow, all right, I mean not a lot of confidence
in there. Not a lot of confidence. Not a lot
of confidence.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
No, do you agree they played the Bucks today? They're
not gonna beat the Bucks.

Speaker 3 (01:09:21):
No, I'm all on the Bucks. I'm all on the Bucks.
They got him in the top tier, so I need
the Bucks to continue to win.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
Ye Bucks beating Now. Next week they gonna name this
a bowl game. It's going to be called the toilet Bowl.
They're sponsored by Santa Flush. Is the Jets playing at
the Dolphins. That should be the toilet Bowl really next week,
so we'll see what happens then. The toilet Bowl there,
all right? Understudy number four San Francisco forty nine is

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mac Jones has taking over and we'll see what happens there.
They got the Cardinals today. The forty nine is a
two and zero, and really I think they're somewhat surprised
with the play of mac Jones leading at the two
and oh right now, he's beat him over in New Orleans.
But New Orleans is terrible, Bucky, you could have quarterback
them last week against New Orleans a win. All right,

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We'll see what happens there.

Speaker 3 (01:10:09):
Wow, man, no respect, no.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
Respect for him. I'm not a mac Jones fan. I
think I think you'll see he'll allowed.

Speaker 3 (01:10:17):
Well, here's what I say. Haven't spent a year with
mac Jones last year in Jacksonville. What's different is Kyle
Shanahan has always had an eye on mac Jones, going
all the way back to that draft when they drafted
Trede Lance over mac Jones. There's some that will say
that Kyle Shanahan preferred mac Jones to be the quarterback
and to be the pick at that slot. Now they're

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together and whatever it is that Kyle Shanahan saw in
mac Jones that led him to favor him in the
draft process, he now can play with that you know
he can. He can work on those skills, he can
figure out how to call plays to accentuate those skills
and minimize his deficiencies and went and mac Jones has
been successful, so he has more confidence. And the more

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confidence that the player has, the more confidence the coach
will have in the player. This could be a good
thing for the nine. It's not only in the short term,
but in the long term. Knowing that mac Jones and
Kyle Shanahan can work together, they can win together, and
that is a solid solution to having a backup quarterback
behind Rock Purty.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
Okay, we may be saving the best understudy for last
the fifth one because I remember when Brianna, our executive producer,
asked you and asked Bucky who she thought might be
the best understudy backup today, and you did say Marcus Mariota, right,
And so I guess that's gonna be. So Jason Jayden
Daniels right now, his timeline is unknown right now, but

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we'll see what happens. They're playing the Raiders today, so
we'll see what happens there. But Marcus Mariota, they were
signing the off season and they signed this guy just
for these moments right now, so we'll see what he
could do.

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
Look, man, it is about being able to manage the team.
When you're the backup quarterback, you don't need to be
the playmaker. You just need to be able to operate
the offense efficiently. Minimize the turnovers and mistakes. Make sure
we get in the right play, make sure we're always
on schedule, and when they're the plays that you know
the defense is won. Take care of the ball, throw

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it away or whatever. Make sure we punt, don't mess
it up. Would be kind of the mode modus operanda
if I had to tell Marcus Murriota how to approach this. Hey, man,
you just don't feel like you have to make the plays.
Don't mess it up. We're good enough around you to
win it. Don't feel like you need to be a hero.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
You know I run this vibe because you played in
the league, you played the game, You've been around athletes.
You know that. I think there's just two types of
backup quarterbacks, one who vies to be the number one,
and another backup quarterback type could be I know my place,
I'm happy, I'm here. I want to serve, if I
want to help, if needed and I think that maybe

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Marcus Mariota has become one of those guys says, look,
I have the temperament to be number two. I'm not
a number one guy. Is that possible?

Speaker 3 (01:13:05):
I mean everybody feels like they're number one. I think
as you get older, though, you recognize your role and
your responsibility. Do you love the game enough to be
okay in that role? Knowing how valuable the QB two is,
Maybe he's settled into that. You know a lot of
it though, is who you're around, how the organization treats you,
how to coach and staff treat you in those things.
Is still a joy to go to work? Maybe he

(01:13:27):
does understand there's value for me being the backup quarterback
in this situation because I couldn't get a chance to play,
and if I play, I'm gonna play.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
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rest in peace. Come be part of a legacy that
never starts. Be there when history is made. The Hollom

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right now. It's about twelve minutes before the top of
the hour, and of course top of the hour will
be eight am on the East Coast, and you have
the wonderful duo of Mike Harmon and Gret Coseel right

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Speaker 3 (01:15:16):
You ruin me.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
It's all your fault. No, it's your fault.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
It is all your fault.

Speaker 3 (01:15:24):
Fault.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
Maybe it's everyone's fault. A liar, that's why there's the
blame game game. Let's figure out who to blame.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
You're a liar, Oh, Brianna, are you ready? Can you
give us one? Brianna?

Speaker 9 (01:15:37):
Yes I can. Okay, I'm gonna start with you, Bucky.
The Dolphins are now one in fourteen after their Thursday.

Speaker 8 (01:15:44):
Night loss to the Bills in Buffalo. Who do you blame?

Speaker 3 (01:15:48):
Look, man, the Dolphins, I blame their culture, the environment.
They can't get it done against the Bills. They really
haven't got it done of late. They just don't operate
the way that you need to to be a successful
team over lot, and that's where we're seeing play out
on the field.

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
Booking, you're too kind. I'm blaming this geek of a coach,
Mike McDaniel. I mean, I'm thinking these players are laughing
at this guy. Thank you. Players are laughing at this
guy right behind his back in the locker room. This
guy should be teaching chemistry in the college level. He
should be coaching football. Really, and do you ever hear
him talk? I mean, you think I'm bad this guy is.

(01:16:24):
He can't put the sents together. Really, Mike McDaniel on
the sidelines, you talk about a geek, a geek from
day one. How did he get the job. It's Mike
McDaniel's fault. He's out, Believe me, He's lucky that they
were out close against Buffalo. I think he would have
been gone after that game if they got blown out already.

Speaker 8 (01:16:43):
Joe Burrow is out with stage three turf toe for
at least three months. Who do you blame, Andy?

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
I blame the Bengals organization was, You've got a franchise guy.
He's your team. He's your guy. He's everything your team is.
He's gold, that's what he is. You got to protect them.
Spend the money if you had to build a freaking
wall around the guy. I don't care. Spend the money
to protect them. On that offensive line, he's still cleaning
the grass office jersey from last week. He really and

(01:17:09):
buck you saw that last week. It's unbelievable. Protect them,
Protect Joe. I feel sorry for him. You know what.
He wears number nine and Carson Palmer won number nine.
He's gonna pull a Carson Palm. He's going to say
the hell with this, I'm leaving, get me out of here.
I hope not, but I see it coming.

Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
Nah, I don't think that's gonna happen. I blame the
offensive line. They just haven't done a good enough job
of upgrading the offensive line. That's why number nine keeps
getting beat up.

Speaker 9 (01:17:35):
Alrighty Clayton Kershaw announced his retirement the other day. The
three National League Cy Young Award winner, MVP, eleven time
All Star, two hundred and twenty two regular season victories
over in each in year career, he.

Speaker 8 (01:17:49):
Had a two point four ERA, the.

Speaker 9 (01:17:52):
Second lowest among pitchers with at least fifteen hundred innings
since nineteen twenty, and then the lowest RA in postseason
about five years.

Speaker 8 (01:18:02):
And is that with that? Says Andy, I'm not sure
who do you blame? Andy?

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
I blamed the media because I always look at for
something wrong with somebody. You know. The only problem I
had with Clayton Kershaw is the fact that people were
saying or comparing him to Sandy Colfax. Don't Sandy Colfax
is God. Clayton kersher is great, but he ain't No
Sandy Colfax, believe me. But Clayton Kersherw is tremendous. And
we talked about this lit earlier today. Yeah, he had

(01:18:26):
some problems in the postseason. Why you don't think his
arm is tired after one hundred and sixty two game season.
So the media is always looking at the pick pick pick,
And maybe that's a problem, you know why, because maybe
they never played the game. Buck, I've never said that before.
You know, if you never played the game, you don't realize.
I've been pretty close to the game because I work
with teams. Most of these other fools are just sit
around gonna press boxes, eat the free food, and criticize,

(01:18:49):
and that's all they do. They're negative guys, that's what
they are.

Speaker 3 (01:18:54):
Yeah, I would say this. I think clayt Kersher gets
a bad rep. He hasn't performed in the postseason, but
he's so well for so long that look, give him
a little grace. He is an all timer. I'm excited
for him to conclude his career, but I'm more excited
to see what the Dodges win the postseason this year.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
He's the first ballot Hall of Fame, but no doubt
in my mind.

Speaker 9 (01:19:14):
Okay, so kickers made five kicks longer than fifty five
yards in each of the two weeks of the NFL season.

Speaker 8 (01:19:20):
Are the football's juiced? Who do you blame?

Speaker 3 (01:19:22):
Bucky m Look, I think the training, maybe the balls.
We won't score him to go up, so I wouldn't
doubt it. But yeah, like I just think we have
better kickers in our league than we've ever had before,
which is why we're seeing so many long distance kicks.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
I'm glad you say you wouldn't doubt if, because you
know what, I think that the NFL is smart enough
to realize that people love points, people love offense. Offense
sells tickets like home runs sell tickets in baseball. And
the fact that the matter is these guys kicking fifty
five sixty yards. You got a guy on you. A
team of Jacksonville in the preseason kicked to seventy other
It's unbelievable. I mean, I want of the filling the

(01:19:57):
footballs up with helium. And I mentioned this a couple
of weeks. I think it's great. But you know what's
gonna happen. They're going to eventually shorten the field goal,
but they're gonna do They're gonna get the field goal,
you know, deal closer together and push it back further
and there goes stats. That's mean nothing. So really and truly,
I think there's something going on with football's being juiced.
That's all I'm saying. I believe it. I'm a conspiracist theory.

(01:20:20):
How do you like that?

Speaker 3 (01:20:20):
I mean, I mean, I don't know. I don't know
if they want to change. I think the scoring is
good for football. When do we ever try to take
points off the board? Now? It never happens, all.

Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
Right, Buckets always is a pleasure. I love you to
death brief thank you, Thank you, Mark, stay tuned, Greg Cosella,
Mike Harmon. Right here, I'm Fox

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