Andy Furman & Bucky Brooks open the show talking about Texas defeating Oklahoma in the Red River Rivalry, Arch Manning so far this season & Penn State’s huge loss against Northwestern! Andy and Bucky dive into the drama revolving around Bill Belichick and UNC & how that situation is similar to Deion Sanders! Plus, new editions of Ask Bucky, and the Blame Game!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Everyone, I mean everyone got this one wrong.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
They really did.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
We'll explain that in just a minute. Good morning, everybody,
it is that time. It's Fox Football Sunday on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
He's Bucky Brooks on Andy Fermana.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
We are right here for you, and we are broadcasting
live from the Fox Sports Radio studios, and away we go.
Bucky Brooks, good morning, how are you my friend?
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I am doing great, Andy, what's going on?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Everything's great?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
And we want to get our staff together where full strength? Marky, Mark,
You're okay, You're ready to go? Right, You're ready?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
You're good, Yes, very ready.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Come on, get a little excitement in there, and Bree
help us out here. Because we got this, this Bucky
thing in this hour. How could people get involved with
Ask Bucky?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Absolutely, so go ahead and tweet at Fox Sports Radio
or even do a little hashtag ask Bucky. And when
we get to that segment, we'll go ahead and see
if there is any good ones, and then I'll go
ahead and ask Bucky on you guys's behalf Okay.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Now I've said this, Buck, and I mean this for
my heart of hearts. When I say everybody got this
one wrong.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
You know, I get it.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
You sit behind the microphone, you make predictions, you say this.
But everybody got on the bandwagon. I'm talking about newspaper
guy's columns, you know, tweets, social media, you name it.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Everybody went crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
They had arch Maning winning the Heisman Trophy back in April.
They did last April didn't happen. Okay, he was picked
as a preseason Heuightsman favorite.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Maybe it was his name. I don't know, but I
will tell you this much.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Looking up his stats in two games against Power four teams,
arch Manning was a combined thirty three for fifty nine
four thirty three, three touchdowns and three ironts. Played against
the miners of Texas al Paso eleven for twenty five
or one hundred and fourteen yards. All right, okay, yesterday
somewhat decent Texas beat Oklahoma. He was twenty one for
twenty seven, one hundred and sixty six yards and a touchdown.
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I don't get it. What's the love affair this guy? Basically,
the hype was off the charts, off the charts, really,
and everybody was wrong. And it's about time they came forth.
And said, you know what, I was wrong. I was wrong.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Say it.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I want to hear it. It's definitely going to happen.
I mean, really and truly, that's just just the way
it is, right.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah, I mean, this is what it is.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
I mean, the thing about arch Manning is he has
a great last name, and with the great last name,
because you know, Peyton was so successful in ELI, may
also be a Hall of famer that everyone assumed that. Look,
it's in the blood lines, it's the legacy. He's going
to carry on the tradition because he is someone who's
been talked about so much from the time he was
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in high school to them making his entuay to Texas.
There's a natural assumption that he was going to look
like Peyton in ELI when he took the field. The athleticism,
the flashes, the little pit that you saw when he
was backing up quin yours. You expected to see that
fully kind of full skill when he had an opportunity
to start, and we haven't seen that. That said, he's
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shown some progress, he's shown some flashes in those things,
but he'll never be able to play up to the
hype that preceded his arrival as a big time player.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Right, and I can't why why were people on that bandwagon?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Why was he being hyped? Was it the name? Was
it just a name name?
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yeah, it's just a name. It's the name. He's a Manning.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
And so you think about it, think about the legacy
Arch Manning, then Payting and Eli make it and not
only make it, but make it him play like a
gold jacket levels and then you have the next you
know what I'm saying. So when you think about those
three people like Arch Manning college football Hall of Famer,
you think about the two sons, Payton and Eli, who
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appear to be destined to both be Pro football Hall
of famers. I mean, it's natural to put those expectations
on Arch just given the legacy and the bloodlines.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
I hear what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Look, I'm not here to kind of smack around people
that make predictions because I do what you do.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
We all do it, and it happens.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
But you know, this train that was just rolling down
the hill like a snowball coming down where Archmaning has
to be discussed because it's embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
But that's not alone. There's more.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
There's more to come right now because the preseason talk
of the season was that Texas would be the best
team in the country. The preseason talk was that Penn
State would be national champions and Clemson will be back
to full strength. Okay, the last time I looked in
the preseason. Okay, now they will rank one to two
and four. Last week, okay, this last week, six weeks on. Texas,
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Penn State, and Clemson have really collapsed in the AP's
latest poll. Coming into yesterday's games, none of them were
even listed in the top twenty five. And it's the
first time since nineteen eighty four that three programs ranked
in the top four before the season began each picked
up two losses in such a small time. I mean,
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it's amazing. No, so I ask you, because you're the
football mave and you know it all. How do these
teams look so good before the season started, and the
especially Penn State, you lose to Northwestern, Oh my goodness,
they must be going nuts over there in state college.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
I mean, look, here's the thing. The predictions are the
predictions without seeing the squads. You don't even have spring
football to see what the final product looks like before
it takes to fall, So you don't know, these are
merely guesses, and a lot of times people guess on
the brand name.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
There's a natural assumption that Penn State would be.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
Really good because they had so many people opt back
in that could have went to the pros. You had
a quarterback who people were talking about being a first
round pick.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
And Drewala, So there's a lot of.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
Expectation based on the continuation of what should have been
a program that was on the rise with a bunch
of pros propelling it. Clemson has always been in a conversation,
and because they had a quarterback that people were excited about,
kay Klipnick, there's an expectation that they were going to
be able to play at a high level. Not only
because of the quarterback, but they had a few defensive
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players that had first round grades coming out over the summer.
They just didn't play like that out the gate. You know,
you just think about all of this, But all of
this is our front on the media, because this is
what we do. We throw our predictions and we kind
of set the floor for expectations for the public. But
a lot of times we don't know, and the college
coaches don't know what they have until they start playing.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yeah, but now you know the media people, the national
media people, the ones that I'm seeing hearing and reading
that they're kind of taking a step back saying, well,
you know, I know they get into the portal, but
it takes time. No, the portal should be something that
you pick a player and all of a sudden you
go for nothing to good because your your players.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Right, No, that's that doesn't that's not right.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
It's like free agency and whatever, because just because you
take a player who's in the portal, you can't just
instantly put them in your program and think that it's
all good. Like that would be like if we're playing
with robots. We're playing with people, Like there's chemistry and
connectivity that has to exist.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Like it's a team.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
It doesn't just mean you can't just plug all these
people in and it goes.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
You're not collecting talent.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
You're building a team, and a team has to operate
as one that takes chemistry and connection and that is
built over time. If we're just collecting talent like we're
an AAU team, I mean, if you have the best
talent of all the talented teams, maybe it works like that,
but the margin for error is thinner because the talent
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is diverse, it's spread out amongst all the teams. So
I think when people make that assumption that just because
you're in the portal, it's going to be better, it
doesn't always mean that. And also a lot of the
people that are in the portal, A lot of players
that are in the portal are disgruntled, malcontents. They have
daddyers and managers that are heavily guiding and influencing their career.
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And when you take that on, you have to take
all of that on. That also impacts the way that
your program is built in the program operates. So yeah,
I think people make the assumption that the portal is
all good.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
It can be in some cases, but not always.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
I learned one thing and I learned this from you,
so I give you the credit. Pat you on the back.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
You know, I look at talent and we always say
it's personnel. I get it, it's personnel, but I think
even more than personnel, it's the chef, it's the cook,
it's the coach that takes that personnel blends them together.
I'm looking at school, I'm looking at the pros. You know,
your team in Jacksonville new coach, almost similar personnel.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Now they're a contender.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Look at Detroit for years years they were terrible, right,
I mean, look at now the head coach.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Now the Detroit Lions are a contender.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Now.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I look at Indiana football.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
That was a basketball school for eons, right, it's a
football school right now. Why Kirk Signetti, I mean when
he came on there, they laughed at him. He said,
we're gonna win. They're winning right now. The game yesterday,
the biggest game of the day, seventh ranked Indiana beat
number three organ I mean that in Oregon, that's tremendous.
And Kurt Signetti was interviewed for the head football coaching
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job at the University of Cincinnati and they couldn't get
the job there.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Lucky for him.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Lucky for him, there's playing more money and more boosters
in Bloomington, Indiana than in Cincinnati, Ohio.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Anyway, Yeah, but let's talk really about why Indiana was winning. Initially,
he basically took his entire team from James Madison and
dropped it into Indiana his first year. Because he talked
about the way that you win. You have to have
chemistry in those things. You have to have guys that
know your system. So he basically took a team that
knew his system and they leveled up and played upper level,
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which is great. They played a soft schedule the first year,
they won some games those things. This was a great
test for him. This was a coming out party for
Indiana because they knocked off a team that everyone hails
and celebrates in a coach that people celebrate in Dan Lanning.
But he got a jump started and he continues to
jump started with people that he already knew. So it's
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not about the recruits and those things. It's about the
puppeteer being able to put it all together. But it's
easier to put together if you already know the people
that are coming in. That's why it's been successful. That's
why it is being able to sustain this stuff over
the first two years. The key for him Indiana is
Kenny sustain.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
It over the long call.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
When you get out of the portal and it becomes
transient and it becomes transformational where you're having to bring
recruits and all that in, will Signetty be able to last.
But right now it looks great and he had a
great performance against Oregon.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yesterday, who's just a six and zero, and I will
tell you this much. You know, can he sustain it?
I would say this, you start early, you get the
kids from James Madison, you start winning, okay, And everybody
was kind of questioning do they deserve to be in
the college playoffs?
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Are they that good?
Speaker 2 (10:38):
They made a statement yesterday that may have been the
biggest football win in that school's history. But then again,
you got a high school kid right now looking at that,
especially in the state of Indiana. I don't know how
good high school football is in the state of Indiana,
but they're gonna want to go there now. Everybody wants
to be part of a winning team. They really do
what that defense did yesterday, I was shocked. I don't
watch Indiana a lot. I really don't. Against Oregon, they
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held Look to what d On thirty carries. That's unbelievable
and the interceptions tremendous defense. And to me, defense really
and truly is something you got to want to play.
I don't think it's coached that much. I think you've
got to want to play defense.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
I mean, I think everything is coach but yeah, you
have to want to play defense. You have to find
guys that have been longtime defensive players. Because everyone is
fascinated with the ball, most guys kind of lean towards
the offense, and what you find are sometimes you have guys,
particularly in the secondary, that is not as trained at
their respective positions because they spent their young childhood growing
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up playing offense, offense, offense, So you have to teach them.
But when you have great teachers, a staff for the
great teachers, and you have some mad scientists that can
put the x's and oos together, you can't get a
product that looks like the product we're seeing in Indiana.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Okay, we talk about Indiana.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
I mean right now, they're going to be in the
top five this week, there's no doubt about that, and
there's gonna be a big shake. But the biggest shocker
I think is Penn State. I mean losing to UCLA,
using to Northwest? How does Penn State lose to Northwestern
twenty two to twenty one. Now Penn State is three
and three, all in three in the Big ten, and
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now they're talking about the buyout for James Franklin. I'm
not saying he's a bad coach, but the point is this,
you gotta win to keep your job. You gotta win good,
bitter and different. You could be a bad coach and
be lucky and win, or a good coach and just
like fall on your face and they got injuries there,
I get it, But to lose to Northwestern, please, that
to me is inexcusable.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Yeah, okay, I mean, I just hope Penn State will
fire it. I just wish they would get over because
I'm so tired of hearing about the James Franklin Penn
State thing.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
They've lost three in a row. They shouldn't lose to the Northwestern.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
They shouldn't have lost to UCLA, and maybe they should
move on. Maybe it's time to move on. They can
get a new voice and they can be with Penn
State has always been doing a Joe paternal era. Okay,
that's it, Like, I mean, this is the most successful
era that Penn State has ever had ever And so
if they.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Want to move on from him, it's great. He can
go somewhere else.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
They can find somebody else to do it, just like
Bill O'Brien had them at a little over five hundred.
Like it's fine, Like they'll talk about Matt rule maybe
coming from Nebraska, but Mattrul has never won a national championship.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Mattrul has always had to start out bad.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
So whoever it is that the Penn State people find,
I hope they find someone that makes them happy because
I am really tired of him about the James Franklin thing. Yeah,
they lose Drew Allen, the quarterback. Normly, when you lose
your quarterback, you seeing your season goes down the tubes
and we'll see if he's able to pull it out.
But yeah, they shouldn't lose to those teams. They lost
three in a row. And I think right now in
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the state of college football, if you lose three games
in a row, everybody should be fired. That's why they're
on Debo Swingey, That's why they were on Kaitlin de
boor early at Alabama. No one should ever lose in
college football if not a sapireable defense.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
First of all, I don't think they should fire any
coach during the season. I think what Virginia did that
early on this year, I mean, that's ridiculous. You fire
a coach during the season, be an NFL or college
theseas is down the cropper.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
And you know what, it's like it's like when you're
in school and you get a substitute teacher and the
teachers turns his back on you. You're throwing the races
at his head. I mean, it's chaos, That's what it is.
Don't you agree Firing a coach in the middle of
the season is chaos.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
I mean not really.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
I mean the teams that fired the coaches that responded
to what you talk about Ucla, they fired the coach.
They played better. You think about Virginia Tech, they fired
their coach. They had a little bomp out of it. Look,
I think you should fire the coach whenever you feel
like the progress has stalled. As you were telling me
James Franklin and those guys, they lost three in a
row early in the year. When Clemson was losing, it
seems like people wanted a new voice. I think you
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fire people when the fans grow tired of the current
program and there doesn't appear to be any growth or progress.
So when you do that, it gives you an opportunity
to get a jump start on the candidates. You may
lose a bunch of players because the transfer porter opens
for thirty days after firing. But yeah, if you feel
like you go move on, don't waste time. As soon
as you feel the urge. I think people should pull
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the plug on the experiment.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Penn State became the first FBS team in the last
thirty years to lose consecutive games as at least a
twenty point favorite. That's a bad deal right there. So
Vegas was heard yesterday too. So now they're writing about,
you know, the buyout for Penn State with James Franklin.
His contract pays him eight million a year through the
twenty thirty one season, plus a five hundred thousand dollars
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retention bonus. So to fire him during the season, Penn
State would need to pay him fifty six million dollars, including.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
What he's already been paid up to this point. All
right now.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
If the school wants to wait till after the year,
but they still want to fire him prior to next season,
they'd have to pay him forty eight million. Who started
this buyout deal? Because it's almost like it's almost like
an anchor. I mean, you can't get rid of these guys,
I mean forty eight million. If they want to fire
him before next season, that's absurd, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
I mean what's the point of having a contract if
you don't want to honor the contract. So while that's
not the contract, if you don't, if you don't have
a buyout, then why are we committing to a contract.
The buyout is part of protecting the coach from being
fired and make sure he guess is But the buyout
also has terms where the coach has to pay a certain.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Amount before he leaves.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
That's the point of having a contract so both parties
can honor it. They put that in to protect themselves,
but also to protect the coach. If you want to
move up, then it'll be If you want to move
on from a coach, then it's up to the alumni
base to boost the club, to pony up the funds
to move on, and then pony up more funds to
get a new coach. It's expensive when you make decisions
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that come back to bite you, and if you feel
like you didn't hire the right person, this is what happens.
Is punitive for not hiring the right people and not
supporting the right people as they're trying to progress the
program right.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
And I tell you a lot of times with the
buyout situation, if he does go to another school. Sometimes
another school picks up that buyout.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Yeah, I mean, that's that's how it operates.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
If they want a coach and they feel like a
coach is on the contrary, we want them. We want
them enough that we will pay the buy out and
then pay him a salary and exorbitant salary on top
of the buyout. It's expensive, but if you identify someone
that you want, and that's the cost of doing business.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Right, I'm hear what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
So, I mean, I don't think they're gonna get rid
of him. I think he's not only a nice guy,
I think he's a good coach. I mean, it just happens,
you know, you run into one of those deals. I mean,
it's a freak loss to lose to Northwestern, there's no doubt,
and they shouldn't lose to Northwestern, but it happens. It happens.
That's why they play the game. I know it sounds stupid,
but that's why they play the game. And really they
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should school like Penn State should roll over Northwestern. But
it's one of those days that happened.
Speaker 6 (17:49):
No.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
I mean, look, man, I think at this point, like,
let's have a real conversation because it's not in the headlines,
like perception becomes reality, and what it's eventually going to
do is the more they talk about James Franklin and
Penn State, the more likely recruits aren't going to go
to Penn State because there's uncertainty regarding the leader of
the program, and so if they're going to make the
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decision to move on from him, they need to make
it sooner rather than later, because all it's going to
do is impact the product. The more that you talk
about the coach being on shaky ground or being on
the hot seat, the less likely the blue chip recruits
are going to go there. So they need to make
a decision, pay the forty eight or fifty six million dollars,
move on or be quiet about it, because all you're
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doing is hurting the program with all the conversation, make
a decision fire him or retain them. But either way,
it's impacting the players that are coming to the program.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
And you mentioned this, we've got to go give him
a tip of the cap over here to Tim Skipper.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
The coach, the interim coach or the UCLA.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
They will owned four now they're two and one in
the big ten with a win yesterday over Michigan State,
a good win to thirty eight thirteen.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
So yeah, we'll get into that a little bit later on.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I just want to know, same roster, different coach, how
does he get that done?
Speaker 3 (19:02):
I mean, how does that happen?
Speaker 2 (19:03):
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minutes from now. But our good friend Deon Sander's won
a big game yesterday, Iowa State loses Colorado twenty four
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to seventeen.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
But I got a question.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I understand that Colorado was paying big bucks for Deon
Sanders personal bodyguard. Have you ever heard of anything like
this to these college coaches, the football coaches, so to speak,
Do they have bodyguards?
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Is that what's going on now?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
I'n't heard.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
I know that sometimes there's security, there's highway patrolman around.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Here coaches, particularly on game day.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
But in terms of Dion Dianna is different because Deanna
is a celebrity, so I think you have to kind
of put that in a separate category. And because you're
a celebrity, sometimes you have to have detail around you
at all hours. I don't know if most coaches are
living like that. If most coaches are viewed as celebrities,
so they may not need the full time attention when
it comes to being protected.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
It's amazing because they said the University of Colorado is
paying for his bodyguard. The bodyguard's name is Michael Rhodes
and he's a former police officer. He's paid forty and
eighty bucks to be part of the football entertainment enterprise
at Colorado.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
That's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
And you know what, I'm a little tired of people
jumping on Dion's back, jumping on Belichick's back, because I think,
like the media right now, they love to see how
profile people fail. I really believe that, you know, and
maybe at times I've done that as well. But the
point is that they just continue to hound and bang
on these guys even though they've had a great pass
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in their life.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
And I looked this up.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
They said, media exposure for coach Deon Sanders a Colorado
get this and they want to see him leave? Are
you kidding? The media exposure is valued at around three
point two billion with a b three point two billion
dollars media exposure for Colorado. First of all, those games
never used to be on TV. Colorado's on almost every
week right now.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Yeah, no, they didn't used to be on TV a ton,
and they are on a lot because Deon Sanders is
celebrity and what people typically do, particularly people in this
new media space, is you're trying to find people that
are popular and you try to either take a pro
or con opinion on them because by having that person
in the headlines, it generates a click, it generates a view,
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generates a like or dislike or whatever it is. But
it brings about attention. And the names that are polarizing,
Bill Belichick, Deon Sanders or whatever, they demand a lot
of attention or they're commanding a lot of attention because
that's what people want to hear.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
There is a love hate affair with Bill Belichick dating
back to his days in New England.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
This is a chance for all of the people that
have always liked him to dump on them. That's why
we're seeing all of these hit pieces on him, etc.
With Deon Sanders, there's some of that too, because people
didn't like the flamboyance to confidence, even the cockiness that
he exhibited.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
People don't like that.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
So any opportunity they have to humble him or to
give him a slice of humble pot, they want to
take advantage of that opportunity. And so what we're seeing
all these things playing out in real time because it's popular,
is buzzworthy, and if it's buzzworthy, is clickworthy, which brings
much coveted attention to everyone that's involved in it.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Right And I think the media right now loves to
see Belichick fail, which he probably will not fail. Eventually,
he'll turn it around because you can't build a team overnight.
I don't care how many people you get out of
the portal, But the point is that the media people said, aw,
here's a guy he never talked to us. We'll get
him now. That's what they're doing. I mean, you know
I could see it. I mean, you got to be
a fool not to see that. But we'll get into
the Belichick thing later, but right now, I want to
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talk about Joe Flacco. Forty year old Joe Flacco traded
to the Cincinnati Bengals from the Browns. How strange is that?
And what was your reaction when you heard that the
other day?
Speaker 5 (24:44):
I really didn't have like a strong reaction because you
knew Joe Flacco was going to be on the hot seat,
that he's going to be out. He was going to
go somewhere because he wasn't getting time to go to
play the young guy, so you knew what that was.
The thing that is only interesting about it is the
Cincinnati Bengals elected to make the move. And when they
made the move to move off of Jake Browning for
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a division rivals castaway, that's more telling to them. From
the Bengal standpoint on the field. It allowed them maybe
to push the ball down the field to t Higgins
and Jamar Chase. Jake Browning was struggling, wasn't playing well.
There's no way to avoid it. He wasn't playing well,
and so they're looking for a spark. They're still in
the race to two and three, Pittsburgh's at the top
of the AFC.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
North with three and one.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
They feel like they can get back in and so
they didn't give Joe Flacco an opportunity to be the
gun sling get to hold it down until Joe Burrow
gets back.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
I would say this, I think it was a good
move in the sensetep if it can't be any worse
than what they've had the last several weeks with Jake Browning.
But I got to tell you, I may be on
whalf based on this. But the key in sports you
have to be one of two things. You have to
be good or you have to be interesting. Right now,
the Bengals aren't good, but you know what, with the
addition of Joe Flacco, they're interesting. How people are going
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to watch and they're going to see how Joe Flacco
could do with a good receiving corps like you mentioned
T Higgins and Jamar Chase. That's the key right there.
Can he get it done? I don't know, could it
be any better than it was before? It's got to
be better. But I think they're going to be interesting
right now because you know, I just think the fan
base right now is getting a little tired of Jake
Browning and I feel bad for him, but he couldn't
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get it done.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
So I think it's going to be better right now
with Joe Flacco.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I mean potentially he could be better.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
I mean Joe Fleck has to learn the offense quickly
and they have to figure it out. But Joe Flacco
also has a turnover issue. A turnover problem is to
make sure that he doesn't turn the ball over. But
if he does that, yeah, it has an opportunity to
get significantly better for the Bengals in the next few weeks.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
The bad news is, and I don't think anybody really
touched on this, at least on the national level.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
I know locally they really didn't mention it either.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
The fact that the Browns let him go, I think
to me speaks volumes like what they think of him
in Cleveland, unless they're saying, look, he's not our future.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
We're gonna get rid of him. Is that the deal
right now?
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Because he was the starting quarterback, kind of had a
little bit of a rough spot, and they got rid
of him, and they got some backups right now, And
I'm kind of happy because Shidiah Sanders now is the
number one backup on that team and eventually he's gonna play.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
He's going to play right now.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
But to me, to let him go, to let Joe
Flacco go, to me speaks volumes like the brown said,
we don't need you anymore, we don't want you anymore.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
I mean, they had a young quarterback, They have two
young quarterbacks that they want to eventually evaluate so they
can see what they have coming up against the twenty
twenty six quarterback class. I don't believe they have a
lot of value in Shoudur Sanders, just given all the
conversation around him and the way that they portrayed him.
I think this is Dylan Gabriel's show, but they believe
they get Dlan Gabriel is a future franchise quarterback. That's
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why they took him in the third round ahead of Shadur.
So I don't think this is a we will play
the young guy to eventually get the Shadur. They believe
in Dylan Gabriel and people should treat the story as such.
Less conversation about Shadur, more conversation about Dylan until Dylan
falters in.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
A major way.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
But right now, this is about the Browns believing in
Dylan Gabriel more so than Sharduur being on on the
rise and having two quarterbacks so they want to move
on from Joe Flacco.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
It's more about them believing in Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
All right.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
I mentioned coming into the segment that history could be
made today. The Green Bay Packers have only won loss
this year, and guess what it came against the quarterback
they're going to be facing today, Joe Flacco with the
Cincinnati Bengals. Flacco's win over Green Bay was in Week
three while he was still playing for the Cleveland Browns. Okay,
now he's taken the field for the Cincinnati Bengals and
that trade, which is well on Tuesday, I think so
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thanks to the trade. Thanks to that trade, Flacco now
has a chance to make NFL history today by becoming
the first quarterback in the Super Bowl era to beat
the same opponent twice in one season while starting for
a different team. And that feed has only been accomplished
one time, and that came back in nineteen sixty two,
before the first Super Bowl was ever played. It was
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sixty three years ago. Jack Kemp led the Charges to
a forty fourteen win over the New York Titans. Now
that the Jets, that was in Week two. That's pretty big.
Now Flacco also has played for every team and that
vision except the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
It's crazy. He really is.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Was he been there eighteen years? I will say this,
and I think you'll agree. A very sturdy quarterback. I
don't think he's ever really been injured. But I don't
think he's a Hall of Fame guy. Although he was
a Super Bowl MVP. I don't see him getting into
the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
No, he is not a Hall of Famer, but he.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
Probably enjoyed one of the hottest runs that we've seen
someone who bettered themselves and had a great Super Bowl run.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
So he deserves credit for that. But he's a gunslinger.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
From the time that he came out of University of Delaware,
they were people that loved the prototypical traits, the big
arm in those things. And so he's had his moments
when he can get hot, and we saw it a
few years ago when he was NFL Comeback Player of
the Year in Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Maybe they can catch lightning in the ball in Cincinnati, right.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
I know everybody thinks the Bengals have problems, Well look
that got an excuse Joe. Joe Burrow's not playing. They
got another Joe right now, and they're two and three
with twelve games left. I think there's still some life
because I think that division is wide open. The team
that has some question walks right now, especially offensively, Philadelphia Eagles.
They lose to the Giants on Thursday night, thirty four
to seventeen, and I think the game before that, the
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game they had lost, I think something like Saquon Barkley
had eleven carries. Now, I remember this is like two
three years ago when the Eagles struggled the first half
of the season and they started to go to the
run game big time, heavily before sae Quon was there,
and they turned it around. Now I got a new
offensive coordinator. Why would they stay away from the run game.
You got a guy who picked up up with two
thousand yards last year and then not putting the ball
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in his belly.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
I don't get it.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Well, there's a lot of fighting in fighting between the
star personnel, and this happens when you have success.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Pat Rowley used to call it the disease of me.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
Everyone values their contributions more when you're part of a
winning team, and they believe that they should be rewarded
for that success, whether that's monetarily or with more opportunities.
That's how everyone feels. And when you have a bunch
of guys that have the disease of me, it starts
framing the team first concept because everyone is thinking about themselves.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
And not the team.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
And when you get that, you don't have a team
that plays well because they're functioning like a bunch of
independent contractors, and that's what we're seeing in Philadelphia. Until
everyone bues back into the team part of it, where
we're gonna do what's best for the team as opposed
to the individual, they'll never get back on track and
they'll never win games.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yeah, apparently, I guess it was Aj Brown that posted
something of a Bible verse on social media and then
he denied it, and Jalen Hurts and Saquon Barkley said
they met with Brown, and you're right that internal squabbling
could kill you.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
That's basically what it is.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I think that one time, once you get to the mountain,
and they were at the mountain less year winning the
Super Bowl, I don't think that the fire is there
as much. I mean, you played the game, you would
have the answer. You know these players, you know their mindset.
But I think that you strive for a Super Bowl,
you win the Super Bowl, then you could put it
in put it in neutral. You don't have that drive anymore.
I don't think Kansas City did. And that's amazing New
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England did, And maybe that's a coach's responsibility. I don't know,
but I think once you get to the top, it's
tough to stay there.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
It's tough to stay there because every human has to
fight off complacency. Most people's natural inclination is if you
get an A on a test, the next time you cruise,
maybe you make a SEE and you settle for a B.
Nick Saban always uses this analogy to talk about the
human mindset and how hard it is to be an
elite competitor that always wants to make a's on those
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tests because it requires you to not be swayed by
what happened previously, but to stay focused on the task
at hand. Most people aren't wired to do that, and
it's hard to get a team to approach a season
like that. Ay Man, Every game is an opportunity for
us to get better, no matter what we did the
week before. We want to be better the next week.
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And we're playing to a standard, not to a scoreboard,
meaning there has to be a feel to the way
that we play. We feel like we're playing at a
championship level based on when you look at us, the
way we're running to the ball, executing place, etc.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
About the final scoreboard.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
But it's hard for people to do that because a
lot of people look at the results and they're satisfied
if the results are positive. They don't really care about
the process of how they got there. A I won,
Why do we care if I had a couple mistakes
and miscues we still won the game. But the championship
teams and the teams that are able to sustain over
the long haul, they're always chasing an ideal standard of
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play and you have to stick to that.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
I mean, Eagles right now ranked twenty ninth the NFL
in total offense. Sakuon Barkley twelve carries for fifty eight
yards against the Giants, and he's averaging three point four
yards to carry after he led the league in rushing
and yachts from scrimmage last year.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Amazing. I mean, you look at that. It's kind of crazy.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
And if it doesn't change pretty soon, there's gonna be
some problems, major problems over there. All right, we roll
along right now. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Furman. We
are Fox Football Sunday on Fox Sports. Ready, it's time
for some real knowledge. What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Means? Ask Bucky? Is next? Ask Bucky? Coming right up?
Speaker 2 (33:59):
That's Bucket he Brooks on Andy from We're about twelve
minutes before the top of the hour on Fox Football Sunday.
We're a lot from the Fox Sports radio studios. Right now,
it's time for Ask Bucky. Brianna get it calling Brie.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
Okay, so I'm gonna throw actually to a collar out
in Boston, Andrew, what's your question for ask Bucky?
Speaker 9 (34:21):
Hey, guys, my question is Fucky, how do you feel
Drake May is doing? And also how do you put
up with Firman every weekend?
Speaker 7 (34:33):
What?
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Wait a minute, you gotta screen calls better than this?
Speaker 9 (34:37):
Oh? Good?
Speaker 1 (34:37):
All right?
Speaker 9 (34:38):
Berman, Andy, Yes, yes, can I ask you a quod questions?
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Go right ahead?
Speaker 9 (34:45):
About just about the contract? Like you would have a
buyout in your contract if Fox fortunes get you're out
of here for no reason. You would want money, you know.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Okay, good, you could be my attorney. You could write
it in my contract. Okay, let book answer you a
question about Drake May.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
DREMI is doing really well, Mike Rabel, Josh mcganne is
doing a great job of send him up for success.
He's someone who was very talented, but he was inconsistent
during his time in North Carolina. He has some Josh
Allen like qualities they're tapping into, not necessarily the athleticism
in terms of running, but just allowing him to be
the dude. And those dude qualities are certainly coming through
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for him with New England.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Wait a minute, you got to answer pot.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
B do you?
Speaker 5 (35:28):
And he's a wonder, He's a pleasure. He's a pleasure
to work with every Sunday. So I can't say anything
bad about I love you.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
I love you.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Okay, that sounds good.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
All right, pray next, Okay, Bucky's growing now, Pinocchio, have
you ever seen a coach get physical on the sidelines
with the player? We obviously saw Jonathan Cannon this past
Sunday with a Mari de Meccardo and he was actually
fined one hundred thousand dollars from the team versus like
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the league itself. So what do you think about that
just as a separate And then had you ever seen
a coach a physical with the player like on the
sideline like that?
Speaker 5 (36:05):
No, and it should never happen. Like as a coach,
you should always pribe yourself in being able to keep
you cool, and he obviously wasn't able to keep his cool.
So that's a bad look on Jonathan Gannon's part. No
matter the offense, it was egregious for I'm a ready
to drop the ball before he gets in the end zone.
But the coach has to be better than that. I
am glad that the Arizona Cardinals find him. I'm glad
that he had to serve some kind of punishment of
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consequence for his actions. He cannot do that. He cannot
approach a player like that. There has to be a
level of respect between player and coach.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Okay, I have an attendum to that question, if I
may breeze that. Okay, I want to know why the
player could or would or should Can he kind of
sue the.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Coach for assault? Just think about that?
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Now?
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Can he? Can he do that? Book? I mean, really,
he punched him, kind of punched him.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
Yeah, he can't sue him. He can't sue him for that.
Like I don't think that they would have any merrit.
But no, it's not a great look. Beca's not a
great look on the Organization's not a great look in
any way, shape or form.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
All right, go ahead, Bray, I'm sorry I.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
Was gonna say even I could have answered that question.
Of course, you wouldn't get sued.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
It's crazy to anybody, But I think that's a possibility question.
Speaker 6 (37:14):
That's for sure.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
Wow, just kidding, right, Beckie, We're just kidding. I'm just kidding, right, Okay.
Bears head coach Ben Jonson stated that he sees similarities
between Jaden Daniels and Caleb Williams. Is he hallucinating?
Speaker 5 (37:30):
I mean, I think there's some similarities in terms of
like the way they play. Both are athletic, Both can
make plays in the pocket outside of the pocket. Both
can play on time or play in a frenetic chaos.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
But I would say that Jade and.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
Daniels has been the one that has been more comfortable
playing on time than Caleb Williams. They're having to teach
Caleb Williams how to play on time and let the
place fully developed. But yeah, there's some similarities in terms
of their skill sets.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
You know, I got this, See, I wanted to play
the coaching cash game how much these guys get paid.
And I'm gonna mention the college coach buck, and you
tell us if he's overpaid or not, and then after
you tell me that, I'll tell you how much he's making.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
I looked that up is that? Okay, are you ready?
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Here's go.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Luke Fickle at Wisconsin.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Overpaid for the production and performance.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
He's making seven point eight million. Why he left Cincinnati,
I don't know. He had to go in there pretty
good and really and truly these guys make I mean,
do you look at the salaries they make. Do you
ever say to yourself, maybe you should have gotten into
college coaching.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
I mean it's big money.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
There's big money, but they move around too much. For me.
I didn't want that once I was done playing. I
didn't want to bunce around as much.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Okay, Lincoln Riley at Southern col too much or too little?
Speaker 5 (38:49):
It's too much based on what the expectations are at
USC even though he's done a great job of recruiting now,
it's still too much.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
The wins haven't tallied up.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
Eleven point five mill he's making all right.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Our good friend coach Bill Belichick in North Carolina, I
think it's even too early to even you know, approach
this with him, but you know, put him on the list.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
What do you think, Yeah, it's too much based on
how they're performing in all the chaos around the program.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Yeah, that's way too much.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
All right, you freeze at Auburn, You freeze at Auburn.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
Yeah, it's too much. I mean, did I win it
enough to do it? So like if you don't win enough,
it doesn't justify the salary.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
So no, you know what I would say this, he's
only I underline that he's only making six point seven mil.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Really, all right? How about Matt Campbell at Iowa.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
State underrated under jail, he's you.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Know, really and truly he's a bargain. He's he's making
five mil and he's the winning his coach in Iowa
State history, really and truly. I mean he's sixty nine
and fifty two with the cycle. It's pretty good five mil.
So what happens? Does he get a does they bump
him up or what he's gonna be gobbled up by a.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
No the school? What happens to a guy like Matt Campbell?
Speaker 1 (40:03):
I think he just stayed in build a legacy.
Speaker 5 (40:04):
He's done a really good job with the program under
his direction. I don't believe in that you always have
to bounce and find another job. Some jobs are statue jobs,
like be there where you can be rewarded for being
an excellent coach. And having a statue fixed after you.
I think Matt Campbell's just say, all.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
Right, got a couple of more coaches. I think I'm
gonna hold them over. We'll do that. But he's Bucky
Brooks and Andy Ferman, and these men really need to
step it up.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Who are they will tell you in so much more
Fox Football Sunday next.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.
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couple of little tidbits for you, Buck. Are you ready
(41:21):
about this coaching salary deal? Kurt Signetti and Indiana big
Win yesterday. I got to believe at eight point three mil,
he'll be bumped up pretty good, or maybe he'll jump
to a bigger school.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
You think is that a possibility?
Speaker 1 (41:35):
I certainly hope that.
Speaker 5 (41:36):
I don't know why people are always chasing different logos.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
Whatever. He has a nice spot in Indiana, he has
a good thing going. Why would he want to leave?
Speaker 5 (41:44):
You know, Like to me, if you do all the
work to get the program up and going, you should
want to see the fruits of your labor.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Hopefully he stays there. He's done a really good job.
Speaker 5 (41:53):
He out coached Oregon yesterday and the team is being
Look the team has been a playoff team and it
looks like they are top. Why would you want to
move on from that when you're just just beginning to
kind of put everything in place to have the program
the way that you want it.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
You know, I would say this, there's a new element.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
I would think when coaches jump from to school to
school in the college level, not so much your salary,
but I think that you're better off or you're better
served working in a college town where you're the only
team in town where the boosters really rally around. I mean,
you coach a college team in a major market, there's
a good chance that you're gonna be over sold or
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you know, in the shadows of professional sports, Bloomington, Indiana
did the only show in town. You're gonna get the
boosters rallying around. I think it's tough. Like for school
like Cincinnati, where you got pro football, pro baseball, pro soccer,
and another college team in town in Javier University, it's tough.
So I think that's another factor I think coaches may
look into.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
Do you agree.
Speaker 5 (42:55):
I believe that the booster network comes from the attendance
of this s school and the success that their alums
have had. Everyone wants to be associated with the winner.
So the more that you win, the more the boosters
are willing to open up their wallets to pay for it.
With Indiana, they have one of the largest alumni bases.
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They have one of the largest alumni pools when it
comes to money and endowments in those things, I think
it would be foolish for him to leave Indianda to
go somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
And we could say today quite honestly, that Indiana is
now a football school, not a basketball school anymore.
Speaker 5 (43:30):
I won't go so far as to say that they
are a football school, but he certainly has brought some
welcome attention to the football program, the success that they've had.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
In those things. It will always be known as a.
Speaker 5 (43:41):
Basketball school because the legacy of Bobby Knight. But no
one says that you can't be great in two sports
at one school. And so if Indiana becomes great in
football like their trending towards becoming, and if they can
rebuild and repair the basketball program, I'm sure there are
a lot of Hoosiers that would have preciate greatness in
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every level because everyone likes to have bragging rights and
being able to brag about the success of your school
in any form.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
No doubt about that. Okay, Brent Key, what a job
he's done at Georgia Tech. And I can't believe he's
only making he should say only he's only making a
four point five million year. The team is undefeated at
six and oh Georgia Tech, I gotta believe he'll be
jumping around. I just think that Brent's not going to
stay at Georgia Tech.
Speaker 5 (44:24):
Well, when he said George tickets his alma mater, He's
built it up. He's been there for a long time,
up and going.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Yeah. I mean they can pay him. He's in Atlanta.
He understands the lay of the land.
Speaker 5 (44:33):
He's got a ton of success doing it like this
team is legit, and he has his personality all on it.
And also, when you're britt Key and you're talking about
a program that had a long run of success on
the Paul Johnson, whether they like the offense that he
ran or not, Bricky understands, man, you can be there
for a long time. You fully can implement your program
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and see it all the way through. I don't think
he'd be in a hurry to move on from that.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Okay, who's the coach of the now in the NFL.
I think it's a guy in Jacksonville.
Speaker 5 (45:04):
I mean he's one of them. I mean, I think
there are a bunch of coaches that are doing good job.
Liam certainly deserves to be in that conversation. He consistently
he has a scene playing up. I mean, they've knocked
off some really good teams the last couple of weeks.
San Francisco and Kansas City. But there's more work to do.
But yeah, he's been terrific. He certainly should be in
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the conversation in terms of what he's doing, how he's
doing it, whatever. But I'm saying Dan Campbell should be there.
Dan Campbell should do it because he lost both coordinators,
he lost some players, he lost a ton of assistants,
and yet the Detroit Lions are flexing their muscles as
the best team in football. He deserves a lot of credit.
I would lean towards him being the coach a year
over anybody else.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Yeah, especially losing two coordinators. I mean, everybody thought he'd
be down the dumb They lost the first game of
the years. Oh here we go, it's over. He got
him back. He ratheried them before they could even think
of going the other direction. He got him right back
back and better than it might be, averaging like thirty
points a game.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
Okay, I thought about the age factor. You could be
on a bad team, injuries, all factors. While some players
who we expect to have better seasons are falling short
and who are they? Well, you wrote about that and
foxsports dot Com. I wanted to touch on that for
a little bit. And fantasy football guys, guys that play
fantasy football and women, they're probably getting stung by this,
you know. And there are guys that are surprising us,
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I mean the Jackson Darts of the world, they're surprising us.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
But those that are falling.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
Short that you wrote about foxsports dot Com, there's gotta
be a reason, okay, And it's very difficult. And you
mentioned this, I think just last week when you wrote
about it. Dereck Henry hard to say that really he's struggling.
I mean, look, he had forty nine carriages for two
eighty four and three touchdowns, and he was tied for
the NFL lead back at that point in time two
weeks ago. But he's the king and now all of
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a sudden he's having a rough time getting back on track.
Not really his fault, I just think is the players
around him.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
Is that true?
Speaker 1 (46:57):
Nah, he put the ball on the ground.
Speaker 5 (46:59):
I mean, he had a great season opener, but then
he fombled the ball. So he hasn't been the same. Yeah,
he hasn't been the same since he put it on
the ground. Maybe it's a mind thing or whatever. But
if he doesn't play with the same force and vigor.
It changes the dynamics of their offense. And Lamar Jackson
has been out that also makes it hard. It's a
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lot easier when there's a dynamic threat at quarterback to
be able to get off at running back. But no,
it hasn't looked great. They got to find a way
to fix it. They need him to play at a
high level to be able to win consistently.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
Well, yeah, I tell I'm surprised if this one you
wrote about him as well. I mean, when Pete Carroll
took over in Las Vegas, I thought it'd be a
good marriage. Bring a Geno Smith back. This guy, Geno
Smith has become a turnover machine. Hey, I don't know
what happened to him. I mean, he maybe just lost it,
lack of confidence. I don't know what it is. But
he got to turn it around quickly because that team
isn't good anymore.
Speaker 5 (47:49):
Now the team isn't good and it's as far because
he's turning the ball over too much.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
That's on him. He's trying to do too much.
Speaker 5 (47:55):
He's trying to be a hero as opposed to play
within the confines of the offense and the players go
through this where ego gets involved. His ego get involved,
and that's why he's turning it over.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
He has nine interceptions nine and five.
Speaker 5 (48:09):
Games, they have ten. They lead the league in giveaways.
That's why the Raiders aren't winning. You turn the ball over,
you losing this league. That's just what it is.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
What about saus Gardon, I mean, not only is he
having some problems with penalties, but he's basically pointing his
finger at the officials saying that because his team isn't winning,
the Jets, you know, they're getting penalized more so than
other teams. I mean, that's a weak excuse, I think.
I mean, really, he's just not playing well.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
I mean two things can be true at once.
Speaker 5 (48:41):
He's not playing well, but they certainly don't get the
benefit of the doubt when it comes to you know,
the tiki tag calls that some teams get away with
and a lot of times.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
To the victor goes to spoils.
Speaker 5 (48:53):
The better you are, the more breaks you get because
people expect to see you win, and there's a natural
bias that comes in there for the Jets.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
They're losers, they've been losers, and you don't get that.
Speaker 5 (49:05):
You have to overcome that stigma and overcome some of
the things that come along with that. And they can
do it, but they they have to win before it changes.
Right now, the perception is terrible on.
Speaker 3 (49:15):
It, no doubt about that. Here a guy. You are
close to.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
This guy, Brian Thomas wide receive it for you at
Jacksonville Jaguars. Maybe having this sophomore slump. I don't know
what it is, but he's gonna be the number one guy.
He's the number one option you would think in Jacksonville
right now through four games, just twelve catches.
Speaker 3 (49:31):
But maybe it's the new head coach. Maybe the system.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
I don't know what the system basically is or was.
I couldn't tell just by looking. Maybe you can. You're there,
you're on there, you're there every week and you see practices.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
But what happened to Brian Thomas.
Speaker 5 (49:46):
He started out at the beginning of the season, dropping
past is just having a tough time holding on to
the ball. He has come out of that of late.
He's performed better, making some big plays. We saw some
big plays on Monday night against Kansas City Chiefs. It's
just u you know, sometimes the expectations that you put
on yourself can bog you down in your mind, meaning
you have a great first season and you expect to
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pick up where you left off and it just doesn't
happen like that. He's getting better, it's just tough. It's
tough being the number one. There are a lot of
expectations that come with being the number one receiver, and
he just has to kind of.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
Step up to the plate.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
You're speaking of number one receiver. This guy as the
first round pick chrys Olave with the Saints. He's got
an excuse. That team is just bad. It's a bad
team and a bad quarterback. So you know, I kind
of give him. I'll pass, I'll give him a past
chrys Olave.
Speaker 5 (50:37):
I mean yeah, I mean he's overcoming like concussion issues.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
The team hasn't been great.
Speaker 5 (50:42):
They're trying to figure it out, trying to figure out
who they are and what they're about. It's one of
those things where they just have to continue to find themselves.
And having him win last week against the Giants, being
able to see Spencer Radlar get it together. But a
lot of is a talented player. He's too good to
struggle the way that he.
Speaker 3 (50:59):
Stroke no doubt about that.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
Okay, speaking of falling shot, and these guys are falling
short and hopefully, you know, for them, they would turn
it around. But let's talk about some other people that
are falling short. The NFL and the goal line. It's
eight inches stick eight inches has white paint stretched across
a fifty three and a third yard width of the
playing field, separates the green grass from the playing field.
So it's really hard to miss it really is. But
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a couple of guys are doing that. Okay, they're dropping
the ball before they get to the end zone. For
two consecutive weeks of player released the ball right before
the goal line.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
All right, what is happening? Why is this? Why are
they falling short?
Speaker 2 (51:36):
I talk about premature okay, the pretre premature touchdown celebrations.
Is this a problem in the league? Is in an accident?
These guys are going to continue to do it. It's
killing the league. I mean, really, Arizona lost that game
last week because of that. Tennessee got to win out
of that deal. They really did. I mean, and as
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a fan, you don't want to see that. I don't
care about celebrations. I mean, what do they say in
Jacksonville does a coach even mention that they talk about it.
I mean, I don't get it. When Mitchell had that
seventy five you had touchdown catch and he dropped it.
He just let the ball go down. I mean, Indianapolis
should be undefeated now. I mean, really, it's a terrible
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thing for teams to do that. And I could just
imagine what the guy who drops the ball feels like
in that locker room after the game.
Speaker 5 (52:27):
The guys are so there's so many things this has happened.
It's been happening for a long time, going all the
way back to DeShawn Jackson dropping the ball in two
thousand and eight against the Cowboys before.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
Going into the end zone.
Speaker 5 (52:40):
They eventually scored, but it was one of the first
times we've seen International Football League player drop the ball
before they got into the zone. He did the same
thing in the US Army game back in two thousand
and five when he was a high school senior. He
did a flip landy short of the goal line and
fumbled the ball going in. Sometimes people just get so
caught up in wanting to show that they sacrifice the.
Speaker 1 (53:02):
Fundamentals going in, and I understand it.
Speaker 5 (53:04):
I'm a kid of the era when Billy White Shoes
Johnson would do the funky Chicken after scoring touchdowns for
the Atlanta Falcons, and I would seeing.
Speaker 1 (53:13):
It and want to do that.
Speaker 5 (53:14):
And sometimes people get so caught up in the cool factor,
and the cool factor exists in seven on seven culture
where these kids are really more known for their celebrations
than the plays, and so you spend all your time
thinking about how cool can I be when I get
into the end zone, as opposed to really following the fundamentals.
And I've heard NFL coaches talk about letters and logos
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when you get into the end zone. Don't put the
ball down until you see the letters in logos in
the paint. When you do that, they know you've crossed
the goal line, et cetera. But guys have to do that,
they're just losing sight of the bigger goal, the bigger
goals to score for your team and win.
Speaker 2 (53:53):
Okay, you were in the era of Billy White Shoes
Johnson doing that doing that, and it was good, it
was funny, and it was entertaining, no doubt about that.
I'm in the air as a kid growing up when
Homer Jones of the New York Football Giants number forty five.
I remember him, like goes yesterday. He invented the spike.
He would get a touchdown pass going to the end
zone and just slammed that ball on the ground. It
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was Homer Jones who started doing that at first, all right,
but he was in the end zone. These guys were
in the end zone when they did that, and the
other fellas are dropping the ball prior to their spinning
the ball around. They're trying to get one hand to
the other. It doesn't work. The NFL players, I believe,
should not have to be told to hold onto the
football until they're deep into the end zone. All right,
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what do coaches say that they give them any pet talk?
I mean, the acter tell him this. Maybe coaches should
demand that the players weren't out of the back of
the end zone before they let go of the football.
Or maybe teams maybe should start finding these players instead
of like in Arizona, the coach punching him find the
guy and the coach ended up getting fined for one
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hundred grand. Right, it's terrible. I mean, it's unbelievable a release. Honestly,
it's just there's too much of a punishment. I don't know.
I don't know what they could do, but I think
it's disgusting to lose a game like that.
Speaker 5 (55:06):
Yeah, I mean, you don't like to lose due to
self inflicted errors.
Speaker 1 (55:11):
And if you're going to play this game, you want
to play it the right way. And you have to
talk to them.
Speaker 5 (55:17):
No matter who they are, they're pros, you still got
to coach them like their high school players. You have
to talk to them about the things that are important
to being able to win games. And one of the
things that's important to being able to win games is
not beat on now sales with the stupid plays.
Speaker 1 (55:29):
And that's a stupid play. If you're about to score
a touchdown and you drop the ball before the end zone.
Speaker 5 (55:33):
That's stupid. That's just what it is. It's a dumb play.
Put the ball in the paint. Make sure you have
to every play you hand the ball to the referee.
You can hand the ball to the referee and go
and do whatever celebration you want to do, but don't
sacrifice the execution for the show voting. And people are
sacrificing that to show vote.
Speaker 2 (55:52):
You know, how much do coaches talk about how one
should have their should act.
Speaker 3 (56:00):
I mean, certainly coaches go over plays.
Speaker 2 (56:02):
I watch all those shows, the HBO deal, you know,
prior to the season, and they show whether the coaches
you know, in.
Speaker 3 (56:09):
Meetings and whatever it may be.
Speaker 2 (56:11):
But I don't see coaches really talking how players should
behave really, I mean, how you decorum, you know, off
the field, you know, when you meet people, when you
talk to the press. You know, it's all about x's
and o's and how you do plays. But the coaches
actually get a hold of a player and say you
shouldn't do this, you should act like this, you shouldn't
do it.
Speaker 3 (56:31):
I mean, really do they do that?
Speaker 2 (56:32):
I mean back in the day, I remember the Bengals
used to have to wear shirts and ties on away trips.
Speaker 3 (56:37):
I don't think that. I don't think any team does
that now.
Speaker 5 (56:41):
No, I mean, but I think you have to tell them,
like there's certain standards and expectations for what you want
to see, and you'll see this.
Speaker 1 (56:48):
You'll see people in two minute.
Speaker 5 (56:49):
Drills make sure they hand the ball to the ref
or do whatever those things are.
Speaker 1 (56:54):
The coach has to figure out what he values most
and what he wants his.
Speaker 5 (56:57):
Team to be about, and what he wants him to
look like. And if you want certain things from your team,
you have to demand it and the way that you
get what you demand. And so if you want them
to give the ball to the rift and you demand it,
regardless whether they're pros and A do you think but
I do not want to see us penalized for not
putting the ball in the paint.
Speaker 1 (57:15):
Give the ball to the rift and go do whatever
celebration that you want to do.
Speaker 2 (57:19):
Okay, we've always been told, I mean media people say
this all the time. The team takes to put to
you personality of the head coach. Okay, so if a
team is sloppy with penalties, if a team has players
as show voting, does that mean see you never saw
that in New England with Belichick coach. That would never happen. Really,
so they do take after the coach. So coaches don't care.
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Is that what it is?
Speaker 3 (57:42):
I mean?
Speaker 2 (57:42):
Today we have the Cardinals playing the Colts. Is that
fate that over the last two weeks, those are the
two teams that had guys show voting and went into
the end zone and dropped the ball. The Cardinals playing
at the Colts today, it's amazing and believe me, they'll
be showing those three plays during that game on TV.
Speaker 1 (57:57):
That I promise you, yeah, I won't say that they
don't care.
Speaker 5 (58:01):
I think sometimes guys have brain forests and they mess up.
Speaker 1 (58:04):
But you get what you emphasize.
Speaker 5 (58:05):
And so if you emphasize a certain level of execution
and play or whatever, you will get it because you
have to hold them accountable to what your expectations are
as the head coach, as the leader of the program.
Speaker 1 (58:19):
So you can get it.
Speaker 5 (58:19):
You can get guys to acquiesce to to what you
want them to do, but you have to be consistent
and you have to be consistent every day in demanding
that stuff. And if you do that, eventually they're changed
or you find somebody else they can get it done.
Speaker 3 (58:33):
Right.
Speaker 2 (58:33):
Let's talk a little bit about this Cardinals game at
the Colts senate coach that I say the coach should
probably be five and zero. Carlinos have lost three straight.
They're two and three right now in Arizona. They lost
three fumbles last week to the Titans. I mean, you
just stop, you know the key stating football really and
truly when you want to get right down.
Speaker 3 (58:49):
To it, it's turning the ball over.
Speaker 2 (58:51):
The team that doesn't turn the ball over the most
usually wins the ball game. Stop looking at stats, what
a quarterback throws for and all these deals. Right now,
it's all about turnovers, isn't it. It's turnover battle that
wins the game.
Speaker 5 (59:02):
Yes, and it always will be. It'll never change. It
is always about the turnovers. You turn the ball over,
you lose games in this league, and you have to
kind of find a way to minimize that. If you
minimize the turnovers, it gives you a shot to be
able to get it done. But the first thing that
you have to do is minimize the turnovers. Make sure
that you give yourself a chance by taking care of
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the ball that every turn.
Speaker 2 (59:27):
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Speaker 3 (59:44):
But this team's winning. They are they're winning.
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Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
Tampa Bay Bucks. But one team is at the top
of the food chain.
Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
Here.
Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
You want to take a guest, let's go around. You
want to take a guest, Brie, our producer. You want
to think, I guess which team we're talking about right
now that's winning.
Speaker 4 (01:01:27):
I was gonna say the New Orleans Saints, but I'm
starting to think that's correct.
Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
Yeah, don't embarrass yourself. I'm rude, Bucky, you'll have the answer.
I know, Bucky, You'll know.
Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
No, I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
The New England Patriots. The New England Patriots are three
and two. They're playing at New Orleans today though, Brie
and the Patriots have a winning record after five games
for the first time since they were five and oho
and twenty nineteen. How do you like that? And Sunday night.
They beat Buffalo in Buffalo, So Bucky Brooks is the
perfect guy to get into this in dissect.
Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Drake May.
Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
We had a caller early on, but that guy didn't
know what he was talking about because he insulted me.
Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
But let's look at their quarterback. Drake May, a North
Carolina guy.
Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
His five game output on offense is the Patriots best
since twenty seventeen. What has Mike Vrabel done to turn
this team around with the same personnel as a year ago.
Speaker 5 (01:02:19):
Well one, it's not exactly the same. They brought in
a ton of free agents. There were old, grizzled guys,
a bunch of his guys that are tough seeing quarterback, physical,
those things, and so defensively they play a tough brand
of ball. The physicality, the toughness, understanding who they are. Offensively,
Stefan Diggs matching up with Drake May has been good
(01:02:40):
because it gives him a quality receiver to throw to,
someone who's dependable and reliable, trustworthy. That's critical for a
young quarterback to know that when I throw the ball
to the spot, this player's going to show up and
be there. That has helped they've attempted to run the football,
even though Ramondre Stevenson has had some fumble issues. They've
tried to really manage the game, control the game at
least a quarterback when it's been favorable. And look, he's
(01:03:03):
flourished in this thing. And when you look at the Patriots,
it's important to not measure them on their statistical output,
but more so on how they control the game. They
make people play in a style that they don't like playing,
and they have a lot of success because they're great
in situational football.
Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
They do a.
Speaker 5 (01:03:23):
Terrific job of dominating the line of scrimmage, and their
physicality and toughness can wear you down if you're not
prepared for it.
Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
You know, it's funny you got the Patriots playing at
New Orleans today. And also I was amazed really in
fact that they had some takeaways and the takeaways last
week we talked about takeaways as the key to the game.
You know, which team has to at least them out
of the takeaways. That's what won the game for New
Orleans last week. They scored points or if their takeaways.
So we can see what happens right now. It won't
be an easy game. For the Patriots. I like the Patriots.
(01:03:52):
I'd like to see them win. But also you talk
about mistakes and takeaways. They're running backs. They both fumbled
again last week against the Bills, but obviously New England
won the game. But Stevenson and Gibson fumble the football.
You got to stop fumbling the football, keep the football
in There are there any drills in football that could
keep a player from not fumbling, you know, whey they
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hold the ball. I mean, I'm seeing guys getting the
ball punched out when they started running the ball right now.
Is there a drill that could keep them from not fumbling?
Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
I mean, you just have to always be aware of it.
Speaker 5 (01:04:24):
I mean, there's no one that can guarantee that you're
never going to fumble, but you have to be conscious
of taking care of the football in traffic, two hands,
they're holding it high and tight whenever in the open field,
handing the ball to the ref at the end of
every play, to make sure that you don't get loosey
goosey with it at the end of runs. All those things.
There has to be a heightened sense of aware and
that's when it comes to turnovers.
Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
You can't turn the ball over.
Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
Yeah, that's the key. I know a lot of people do,
I mean stupid turnovers as well. You know, you talk
about turning it around. New England looks like they're turning
it around with Rabel and he's tough. I mean, he's
a tough guy. And talk about team taking the image
of their coach, they're certainly doing that in New England.
But let's talk about your alma matter for a second.
And their coach, Bill Belichick, was when the University of
North Carolina hired the guy Bill Belichick the coach their
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football team, and it wasn't in bad shape. But you know,
they said they wanted a younger guy, but they ended
up getting a coach older than their former coach. But
what happened when they hired him. They sold out the tickets,
the donations were coming in. They had excitement all over,
not only Chap a little bit, I guess the entire
state of North Carolina of getting the greatest coach and
I say it in capital letters, the greatest coach of
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all time. Bill Belichick kind of turned that program around
and after ten months, right now they want him gone.
The enthusiasm is gone. North Carolina's blowout laws to a
team of like Clemson.
Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
Which is mediocre. The wreck was two and three.
Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
I watched that game on TV and by halftime, everybody
was gone. Look, they say Rome wasn't built in the day.
I didn't think that Bill Belichick would have a losing
record this year, but I didn't think they'd win double
digit ball games.
Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
It takes time, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
Sure you're going through the portlar get play you talked
about early on, and I listened to you, and I
listened to you with two years. That's why God gave
me two years and one mouth two years. I listen
to you. You know, it takes time to mesh these
players coming together out of the portal. I still think
he's going to turn it around, but I worry will
they give him the time to turn them around? Turn
it around at North Carolina, come on the two and
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three and this play and the problems off the field,
the armand Hawkins was suspended assistant coach.
Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
For rules violation.
Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
It's not a good look. It really isn't. But I
just hope they keep him there. I hope he wants
to stay there.
Speaker 5 (01:06:36):
Look, I mean, the other thing that North Carolina can
focus on is what the product looks like on the field,
Bill Belichick has to go to work, has to make
the team better. Despite the disappointment that everyone has around
the program, sitting here at two and three, two and four,
wherever they are, they just have to focus on what
they can control, and that's the next time they have
a chance to play. They need to play better than
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they played previously. They played Kale on the seventeenth. Expect
them to take the bye week that they've had last
week and then the game week to get ready to play.
No matter what people say, TCU, Clemson, the teams that
they were blown out by, I mean even UCF, Clemson
and TCU were better than North Carolina on paper.
Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
They didn't go in as favors. They shouldn't have gone
in as favors.
Speaker 5 (01:07:17):
Vegas can say whatever, like those teams were better, they
were well constructed or whatever. UCF game is probably the
one that's the most disappointing, but you lost it. So
you got to acknowledge whatever you did wrong in those
losses and you have to fix it and make it better.
And hopefully they did that during the bye week. But
this was not going to be a double digit win team.
Whoever believed that was looking at this team in Carolina
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blue glasses and not really being real with what it is.
And they have to ignore the noise and keep playing
because the noise is going to be loud because there
are a lot of casuals that are checking in, there
are a lot of haters that are checking in, and
they just have to focus on what they control, was
the product.
Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
Okay, the question here and this is the crazy established.
Now you know everybody's looking at this program through in
my scope. It's not just the coach. It's not just
the one lost record. It's everything from top to bottom
with his girlfriend and all that stuff. Look it should
be just what's happening on the field. And look, it'll
turn around. I know it's going to turn around, because
he's too good of a coach not to have a turnaround.
Speaker 3 (01:08:13):
But it takes time. But they suspended their quarterbacks coach.
Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
Armand Hawkins for recruiting violations, and according to the Athletic
the other day, they said it's related to extra benefits
afforded to recruits. How in the hell do you give
recruits extra benefits where they're getting paid nil money anyway?
And well, how stupid can you be to be doing that.
Speaker 5 (01:08:31):
Well, they said he provided sideline passes and access, so
that's a violation of the rules.
Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
Then you have to punish because those are the rules.
That's what it is.
Speaker 5 (01:08:40):
And if he did it, then they're gonna punish him.
They're removing them from the field and eventually from the staff,
and they'll make sure they don't make those mistakes again.
Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
That's part of it.
Speaker 5 (01:08:51):
Like there's rules violations that are committed and everyone that
is caught they have to serve their time or their punishment,
whatever it is. And so Carolina will have to face
up for self reporting what took place and on up
to it. The other things are the other things, like
it is salacious to talk about a seventy three year
old man with a mid twenty something girlfriend. It is
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always going to be salacious in that aspect. I mean,
that's just what it is. Is something that society deems
to be incorrect, and it's weird and cringey and all
that other stuff. And so it plays out in the university.
It's wrapped up in that part of the soap opera.
They have to figure it out. But they knew he
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was dating her when they hired him. And so they
had to be prepared for the storm of criticism and outcries.
Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
And stuff that came with it.
Speaker 5 (01:09:44):
The main thing is this, the only thing that anyone
really cares about is whether they're winning or losing. So
Bill Belichick and the staff need to focus their efforts
on finding a way to win games.
Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
The more you win.
Speaker 5 (01:09:54):
The less do they have an opportunity to take shots
at the program.
Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
So focus on winning games.
Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
Here's my question to you.
Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
If you play for North Carolina, you're close to the program,
you know what's going on.
Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
You got your head to the ground on this, all right.
Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
Do you think that players in the locker room really
care that he's dating a twenty four year old girl
or does it hurt him?
Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
Does it affect him?
Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
And moreover, if he's going out to recruit and it
goes into a parent's home in their living room, the
parents are going to bring that up to him and say,
I don't want my son playing for you. If you're
dating a woman that young, Could that hurt him or
will it hurt him in that regard?
Speaker 5 (01:10:33):
I don't think he will hurt him, But there's gonna
be some isolated incidents where that stuff comes up and
you know what, if they don't want to be coach
from me, then you go on to the next one.
Every program is not a fit for every player, and
you have to be resolute and knowing who you are
and what you're about, and you have to be committed
to sticking to the brand. And whatever the brand is
that Carolina is promoting. They have to make sure that
recruits and players that they bring it to the program
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fit that.
Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
And just because it starts off slow, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 5 (01:10:58):
It depends on how this team finished first year, new culture,
new environment, new process. You want to make sure that
you're playing your best ball down the stretch as everyone
acclimates to the new way of doing thing and eventually
succeeds within the new way of doing things. That's the
only thing that you can do when you're a coach
taking over a new program.
Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
They've had three losses by twenty five points and more.
Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
I was still this. I'll go to my grave by
saying this. He's the greatest NFL coach of all time.
I don't know how this happens. I guess just the
melting pot of players coming in from all areas and
trying to get it together to learn a new system
in one shot.
Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
And I guess you expect.
Speaker 5 (01:11:33):
You don't know how what happens, how you lose three games,
or how you lose by twenty five points in three games.
Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
Well, I mean, which part of.
Speaker 5 (01:11:42):
The surprise, Which part of your surprise that those teams
are better?
Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
The teams are better.
Speaker 3 (01:11:49):
The Central Florida game is bad.
Speaker 5 (01:11:51):
The Central far Other game is absolutely bad. That's the
one that stands out like a red herring. Clemson was
being talked about as being a national champion. They stumbled
out the gate or whatever. But let's not act like
Clemson are the little sisters of the poor, and they
don't have talent, and they're not a team that we
expected to be a playoff team, so they were expected
to lose. The Clemson TCU was a bit of a
toss up, just because TCU is a really good program.
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But it's the season opening. Two years ago they played
Colorado and Colorado took them down. Given that experience where
they played Colorado and all of the noise that came
with it, they were better prepared to take it on
this time. What we have are a program being measured
by outsiders expectations. What matters more. What weoure the internal expectations.
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What do they really expect this team to be? Do
they expect this team to be an eight win team
or a timent team.
Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
Whatever that is. That's what they have to measure.
Speaker 5 (01:12:44):
And while all the noise is going, everyone inside the
building just needs to focus on what they can control,
and that's their job.
Speaker 1 (01:12:51):
They do their job, focus on that part of it.
Let the noise.
Speaker 5 (01:12:54):
The people are going to talk, because if it turns around,
those same people that are talking negatively will then find
a way to write articles that are positive because the
name brings clickbait and value in buzz. That's why people
keep talking about North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
You're exactly right, and you know I'm gonna make a
long comparison over here to your Jacksonville Jaguars and the
loss against Central Florida. For North Carolina, Jacksonville was better
and it is a better team thans the Cincinnati Bengals.
They're four and one. They should be five and zero
right now. That was a bad loss. The Central Florida
game was a bad loss. It happens, Okay, I'm sure
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that was really a loss that still rings mightily in
the hearts of the coaching staff of Jacksonville right now,
as they see what the Bengals have become. They should
have beaten that game. They should have beaten the Bengals
in that game in Cincinnati. It's a bad loss, but
it happens, right and just just the nature of the game.
But we'll see what happens to the rest of their way.
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That's the key right there. But I will tell you
this much, I think that Bill Belichick and the minds
of some they're gonna say his legacy is gonna be tarnished.
They're gonna say that it was Brady not Belichick, and
those people are crazy, and you're right.
Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
They just want clicks as all they do. He is
the greatest coach in the history of the nege.
Speaker 5 (01:14:05):
Like, it doesn't matter all that stuff about the Brady
is it Brady, is it Belichick or whatever, It doesn't
really matter.
Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
At the end of the day.
Speaker 5 (01:14:12):
There's not a great coach who hasn't done it without
great players. Vince Lombardi had a slew of Hall of
famers at his watch.
Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
That is why he won.
Speaker 5 (01:14:21):
Typically, the team that wins the team that has the
better players. It is a policy in the myth that
we romanticize that the coach out coached somebody else to win.
Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
Bill Wash with the San Francisco forty nine ers.
Speaker 5 (01:14:34):
One because he had Joe Montana and Jerry Rice and
others that are in the Hall of Fame like Ronnie Lott.
Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
That is what it takes.
Speaker 5 (01:14:39):
It takes Hall of Fame caliber players to coach at
a Hall of Fame level.
Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
It has never changed and it will always be that way.
Speaker 5 (01:14:47):
So a lot of this is performative art that we
do on our side in the media when we have
these discussions about oh, is it Brady, is it Belichick
or whatever, it's all of them because it takes all
of them, great coach, great players to be able to
win at the highest level.
Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
Well said Bucky Brooks.
Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
I'm Andy Fermweil Fox Football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio,
and it's time to blow off some steam. It's the
Blame Game, and you know what it's freaking next on
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Speaker 3 (01:15:26):
He's Bucket Brooks.
Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
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Speaker 3 (01:15:53):
Now it's time for the play game. You ruin me.
Speaker 7 (01:15:57):
It's all your fault, it's your fault, fault.
Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
Maybe it's everyone's fault.
Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
Who knows.
Speaker 7 (01:16:08):
He's a liar.
Speaker 3 (01:16:08):
That's why there's the blame game, the blame game. Let's
figure out who to blame the blame game. He's a liar. Oh,
go ahead, Bray, it's all you, Okay.
Speaker 4 (01:16:18):
The Eagles, with a new offensive coordinator, are struggling on
that side of the ball. Where is the run game?
And who do you blame?
Speaker 5 (01:16:25):
Andy?
Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
You can go First, I'm blaming the offensive coordinator. It's
proven fact that in years past when things are going
south for the Eagles, they started running the football. You
give sa Kwon Barkley, who is the offensive player of
the year a year ago, over two thousand yards eleven carries.
Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
It's got to be the coaching staff, in particular zuro
wing in on the offensive coordinator, probably.
Speaker 3 (01:16:46):
Trying to make a name for himself. No, go with
what got you there?
Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
No, that's the players. When you have a J.
Speaker 5 (01:16:53):
Brown and others voice and concerns about touches as opposed
to focus on the big part, which is winning, you
have an issue he career. It's a distraction. Makes it
harder for the offensive coordinator and focus on the things
that make the team successful because then you subconstantly are
trying to please everybody and they just need to win
the games.
Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
If you win the games, guys can get over it.
Just find a way to win the game.
Speaker 3 (01:17:13):
You know what. That's I'm gonna give Bucky a point
and that he's right. I blew that one.
Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
I think that it's the plays internal internal dissension over there.
Give me the ball. That's basically what it's okay, Bookie
gets that one.
Speaker 4 (01:17:25):
Okay. Aaron Glenn is the only Jets the head coach
to start own five in his first year with the team. Bucky,
who do you blame?
Speaker 5 (01:17:32):
I blame him, like you're coaching it or allowing it
to happen. The team is on five, they play close games.
Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
The thing that has lost.
Speaker 5 (01:17:39):
They played three one score games that they've lost, but
they haven't found a way to get it done.
Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
They have to find a way to get it done.
Speaker 5 (01:17:45):
I believe in ag I like what they're trying to do,
but the end of the day, it's the bottom line business.
Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
You gotta win games, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
I like to see them win, and I think that
he can win, but you have to have that winning attitude.
Once they get over the hump. If they win one
of those close games, I think they could turn it
around because I don't think there as bad as their record.
But right now, when you start losing and their own
five after their first five, you get the tight end,
the tight butt, and the thing appointing starts and then
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it gets really ugly. I don't think he's lost the
locker room. I really don't, and I think they're decent
but they got to turn it around rather quickly.
Speaker 4 (01:18:22):
All righty, So those the Raiders are struggling offensively, and
coach Pete Carroll made a comment about the game plan
not being great surrounding ash and gent who do you blame? Andy?
Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
That's bad? Keep that internally. I gotta believe the head coach.
You just can't go public with the game plan. The
fans don't care. I honestly, Bucky, I don't believe fans
care about game plan.
Speaker 3 (01:18:44):
They care about results, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
And when the coach starts going public about game plan,
that's not good.
Speaker 5 (01:18:49):
Not a good thing, No, not a good look for
pekr he knows better. I would blame Pete Carroll, be goes. Ultimately,
Chip Kelly has to do with Peak Cara wants. So
Pete Carroll needs to going in and tell him exactly
what he wants. And maybe he doesn't get it. He
has to demand change or.
Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
He has to change the player that's called the person
that's called in the place.
Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
I agree, is that him?
Speaker 4 (01:19:14):
That's exactly him?
Speaker 3 (01:19:15):
Was that Pete Carroll? Literally you'll get another piece of
chewing gum.
Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
Pete go ahead?
Speaker 6 (01:19:19):
Really okay?
Speaker 4 (01:19:20):
So justin Herbert, the Chargers quarterback, is on pace to
finish his sixth season in the NFL with six hundred
and twenty five total hits. Andrew Luck was hit five
hundred and eighty times in his six year NFL career
before he abruptly retired.
Speaker 3 (01:19:33):
Who do you blame Bucky the injuries.
Speaker 1 (01:19:36):
On the offensive line.
Speaker 5 (01:19:37):
I mean, as much as the coaches want to keep
him protected, they can't keep their guys away from the
blue tent. All of the injuries up front impacted their
ability to protect him. And if he's not protected, he's
going to get hit. That's how it is.
Speaker 3 (01:19:51):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
Wait, wait just to say it, could it possibly be
the guys like Andrew Luck and Justin Herbert are really
not that mobile quarterbacks and also holding onto the ball
too long as well. We've seen that with Russell Wilson.
Really you hold on to the ball, you go to
get hit. I mean there's only amount of time was
a two point five seconds? So yeah, you're right about
the offensive line, But I think the offensive line on
various teams gets a lot of blame for sometimes they
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don't need to get that blamed.
Speaker 3 (01:20:16):
Do you agree with that? Buff?
Speaker 5 (01:20:18):
No, it's the blame game. They gotta get blamed. That's
what we do. We blame people. Everyone's responsible for the results,
so they need to be blamed. Blaming the offensive line.
Did I play well enough? That's why they getting hit?
Speaker 3 (01:20:28):
How do you like that? Anything else?
Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
Bre?
Speaker 3 (01:20:30):
You got anything else for us?
Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
No?
Speaker 4 (01:20:32):
I think you guys hit them all?
Speaker 3 (01:20:34):
Really?
Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
What about the Saints? Saints places we can.
Speaker 3 (01:20:38):
They're gonna win, Bucky Right
Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
Mike Harmon and Gret Cosell next right here on Fox
Sports Radio.
Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Everyone, I mean everyone got this one wrong.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
They really did.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
We'll explain that in just a minute. Good morning, everybody,
it is that time. It's Fox Football Sunday on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
He's Bucky Brooks on Andy Fermana.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
We are right here for you, and we are broadcasting
live from the Fox Sports Radio studios, and away we go.
Bucky Brooks, good morning, how are you my friend?
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I am doing great, Andy, what's going on?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Everything's great?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
And we want to get our staff together where full strength? Marky, Mark,
You're okay, You're ready to go? Right, You're ready?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
You're good, Yes, very ready.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Come on, get a little excitement in there, and Bree
help us out here. Because we got this, this Bucky
thing in this hour. How could people get involved with
Ask Bucky?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Absolutely, so go ahead and tweet at Fox Sports Radio
or even do a little hashtag ask Bucky. And when
we get to that segment, we'll go ahead and see
if there is any good ones, and then I'll go
ahead and ask Bucky on you guys's behalf Okay.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Now I've said this, Buck, and I mean this for
my heart of hearts. When I say everybody got this
one wrong.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
You know, I get it.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
You sit behind the microphone, you make predictions, you say this.
But everybody got on the bandwagon. I'm talking about newspaper
guy's columns, you know, tweets, social media, you name it.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Everybody went crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
They had arch Maning winning the Heisman Trophy back in April.
They did last April didn't happen. Okay, he was picked
as a preseason Heuightsman favorite.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Maybe it was his name. I don't know, but I
will tell you this much.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Looking up his stats in two games against Power four teams,
arch Manning was a combined thirty three for fifty nine
four thirty three, three touchdowns and three ironts. Played against
the miners of Texas al Paso eleven for twenty five
or one hundred and fourteen yards. All right, okay, yesterday
somewhat decent Texas beat Oklahoma. He was twenty one for
twenty seven, one hundred and sixty six yards and a touchdown.
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I don't get it. What's the love affair this guy? Basically,
the hype was off the charts, off the charts, really,
and everybody was wrong. And it's about time they came forth.
And said, you know what, I was wrong. I was wrong.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Say it.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I want to hear it. It's definitely going to happen.
I mean, really and truly, that's just just the way
it is, right.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah, I mean, this is what it is.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
I mean, the thing about arch Manning is he has
a great last name, and with the great last name,
because you know, Peyton was so successful in ELI, may
also be a Hall of famer that everyone assumed that. Look,
it's in the blood lines, it's the legacy. He's going
to carry on the tradition because he is someone who's
been talked about so much from the time he was
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in high school to them making his entuay to Texas.
There's a natural assumption that he was going to look
like Peyton in ELI when he took the field. The athleticism,
the flashes, the little pit that you saw when he
was backing up quin yours. You expected to see that
fully kind of full skill when he had an opportunity
to start, and we haven't seen that. That said, he's
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shown some progress, he's shown some flashes in those things,
but he'll never be able to play up to the
hype that preceded his arrival as a big time player.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Right, and I can't why why were people on that bandwagon?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Why was he being hyped? Was it the name? Was
it just a name name?
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yeah, it's just a name. It's the name. He's a Manning.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
And so you think about it, think about the legacy
Arch Manning, then Payting and Eli make it and not
only make it, but make it him play like a
gold jacket levels and then you have the next you
know what I'm saying. So when you think about those
three people like Arch Manning college football Hall of Famer,
you think about the two sons, Payton and Eli, who
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appear to be destined to both be Pro football Hall
of famers. I mean, it's natural to put those expectations
on Arch just given the legacy and the bloodlines.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
I hear what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Look, I'm not here to kind of smack around people
that make predictions because I do what you do.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
We all do it, and it happens.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
But you know, this train that was just rolling down
the hill like a snowball coming down where Archmaning has
to be discussed because it's embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
But that's not alone. There's more.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
There's more to come right now because the preseason talk
of the season was that Texas would be the best
team in the country. The preseason talk was that Penn
State would be national champions and Clemson will be back
to full strength. Okay, the last time I looked in
the preseason. Okay, now they will rank one to two
and four. Last week, okay, this last week, six weeks on. Texas,
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Penn State, and Clemson have really collapsed in the AP's
latest poll. Coming into yesterday's games, none of them were
even listed in the top twenty five. And it's the
first time since nineteen eighty four that three programs ranked
in the top four before the season began each picked
up two losses in such a small time. I mean,
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it's amazing. No, so I ask you, because you're the
football mave and you know it all. How do these
teams look so good before the season started, and the
especially Penn State, you lose to Northwestern, Oh my goodness,
they must be going nuts over there in state college.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
I mean, look, here's the thing. The predictions are the
predictions without seeing the squads. You don't even have spring
football to see what the final product looks like before
it takes to fall, So you don't know, these are
merely guesses, and a lot of times people guess on
the brand name.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
There's a natural assumption that Penn State would be.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
Really good because they had so many people opt back
in that could have went to the pros. You had
a quarterback who people were talking about being a first
round pick.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
And Drewala, So there's a lot of.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
Expectation based on the continuation of what should have been
a program that was on the rise with a bunch
of pros propelling it. Clemson has always been in a conversation,
and because they had a quarterback that people were excited about,
kay Klipnick, there's an expectation that they were going to
be able to play at a high level. Not only
because of the quarterback, but they had a few defensive
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players that had first round grades coming out over the summer.
They just didn't play like that out the gate. You know,
you just think about all of this, But all of
this is our front on the media, because this is
what we do. We throw our predictions and we kind
of set the floor for expectations for the public. But
a lot of times we don't know, and the college
coaches don't know what they have until they start playing.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yeah, but now you know the media people, the national
media people, the ones that I'm seeing hearing and reading
that they're kind of taking a step back saying, well,
you know, I know they get into the portal, but
it takes time. No, the portal should be something that
you pick a player and all of a sudden you
go for nothing to good because your your players.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Right, No, that's that doesn't that's not right.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
It's like free agency and whatever, because just because you
take a player who's in the portal, you can't just
instantly put them in your program and think that it's
all good. Like that would be like if we're playing
with robots. We're playing with people, Like there's chemistry and
connectivity that has to exist.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Like it's a team.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
It doesn't just mean you can't just plug all these
people in and it goes.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
You're not collecting talent.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
You're building a team, and a team has to operate
as one that takes chemistry and connection and that is
built over time. If we're just collecting talent like we're
an AAU team, I mean, if you have the best
talent of all the talented teams, maybe it works like that,
but the margin for error is thinner because the talent
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is diverse, it's spread out amongst all the teams. So
I think when people make that assumption that just because
you're in the portal, it's going to be better, it
doesn't always mean that. And also a lot of the
people that are in the portal, A lot of players
that are in the portal are disgruntled, malcontents. They have
daddyers and managers that are heavily guiding and influencing their career.
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And when you take that on, you have to take
all of that on. That also impacts the way that
your program is built in the program operates. So yeah,
I think people make the assumption that the portal is
all good.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
It can be in some cases, but not always.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
I learned one thing and I learned this from you,
so I give you the credit. Pat you on the back.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
You know, I look at talent and we always say
it's personnel. I get it, it's personnel, but I think
even more than personnel, it's the chef, it's the cook,
it's the coach that takes that personnel blends them together.
I'm looking at school, I'm looking at the pros. You know,
your team in Jacksonville new coach, almost similar personnel.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Now they're a contender.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Look at Detroit for years years they were terrible, right,
I mean, look at now the head coach.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Now the Detroit Lions are a contender.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Now.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I look at Indiana football.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
That was a basketball school for eons, right, it's a
football school right now. Why Kirk Signetti, I mean when
he came on there, they laughed at him. He said,
we're gonna win. They're winning right now. The game yesterday,
the biggest game of the day, seventh ranked Indiana beat
number three organ I mean that in Oregon, that's tremendous.
And Kurt Signetti was interviewed for the head football coaching
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job at the University of Cincinnati and they couldn't get
the job there.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Lucky for him.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Lucky for him, there's playing more money and more boosters
in Bloomington, Indiana than in Cincinnati, Ohio.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Anyway, Yeah, but let's talk really about why Indiana was winning. Initially,
he basically took his entire team from James Madison and
dropped it into Indiana his first year. Because he talked
about the way that you win. You have to have
chemistry in those things. You have to have guys that
know your system. So he basically took a team that
knew his system and they leveled up and played upper level,
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which is great. They played a soft schedule the first year,
they won some games those things. This was a great
test for him. This was a coming out party for
Indiana because they knocked off a team that everyone hails
and celebrates in a coach that people celebrate in Dan Lanning.
But he got a jump started and he continues to
jump started with people that he already knew. So it's
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not about the recruits and those things. It's about the
puppeteer being able to put it all together. But it's
easier to put together if you already know the people
that are coming in. That's why it's been successful. That's
why it is being able to sustain this stuff over
the first two years. The key for him Indiana is
Kenny sustain.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
It over the long call.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
When you get out of the portal and it becomes
transient and it becomes transformational where you're having to bring
recruits and all that in, will Signetty be able to last.
But right now it looks great and he had a
great performance against Oregon.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yesterday, who's just a six and zero, and I will
tell you this much. You know, can he sustain it?
I would say this, you start early, you get the
kids from James Madison, you start winning, okay, And everybody
was kind of questioning do they deserve to be in
the college playoffs?
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Are they that good?
Speaker 2 (10:38):
They made a statement yesterday that may have been the
biggest football win in that school's history. But then again,
you got a high school kid right now looking at that,
especially in the state of Indiana. I don't know how
good high school football is in the state of Indiana,
but they're gonna want to go there now. Everybody wants
to be part of a winning team. They really do
what that defense did yesterday, I was shocked. I don't
watch Indiana a lot. I really don't. Against Oregon, they
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held Look to what d On thirty carries. That's unbelievable
and the interceptions tremendous defense. And to me, defense really
and truly is something you got to want to play.
I don't think it's coached that much. I think you've
got to want to play defense.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
I mean, I think everything is coach but yeah, you
have to want to play defense. You have to find
guys that have been longtime defensive players. Because everyone is
fascinated with the ball, most guys kind of lean towards
the offense, and what you find are sometimes you have guys,
particularly in the secondary, that is not as trained at
their respective positions because they spent their young childhood growing
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up playing offense, offense, offense, So you have to teach them.
But when you have great teachers, a staff for the
great teachers, and you have some mad scientists that can
put the x's and oos together, you can't get a
product that looks like the product we're seeing in Indiana.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Okay, we talk about Indiana.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
I mean right now, they're going to be in the
top five this week, there's no doubt about that, and
there's gonna be a big shake. But the biggest shocker
I think is Penn State. I mean losing to UCLA,
using to Northwest? How does Penn State lose to Northwestern
twenty two to twenty one. Now Penn State is three
and three, all in three in the Big ten, and
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now they're talking about the buyout for James Franklin. I'm
not saying he's a bad coach, but the point is this,
you gotta win to keep your job. You gotta win good,
bitter and different. You could be a bad coach and
be lucky and win, or a good coach and just
like fall on your face and they got injuries there,
I get it, But to lose to Northwestern, please, that
to me is inexcusable.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Yeah, okay, I mean, I just hope Penn State will
fire it. I just wish they would get over because
I'm so tired of hearing about the James Franklin Penn
State thing.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
They've lost three in a row. They shouldn't lose to the Northwestern.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
They shouldn't have lost to UCLA, and maybe they should
move on. Maybe it's time to move on. They can
get a new voice and they can be with Penn
State has always been doing a Joe paternal era. Okay,
that's it, Like, I mean, this is the most successful
era that Penn State has ever had ever And so
if they.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Want to move on from him, it's great. He can
go somewhere else.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
They can find somebody else to do it, just like
Bill O'Brien had them at a little over five hundred.
Like it's fine, Like they'll talk about Matt rule maybe
coming from Nebraska, but Mattrul has never won a national championship.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Mattrul has always had to start out bad.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
So whoever it is that the Penn State people find,
I hope they find someone that makes them happy because
I am really tired of him about the James Franklin thing. Yeah,
they lose Drew Allen, the quarterback. Normly, when you lose
your quarterback, you seeing your season goes down the tubes
and we'll see if he's able to pull it out.
But yeah, they shouldn't lose to those teams. They lost
three in a row. And I think right now in
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the state of college football, if you lose three games
in a row, everybody should be fired. That's why they're
on Debo Swingey, That's why they were on Kaitlin de
boor early at Alabama. No one should ever lose in
college football if not a sapireable defense.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
First of all, I don't think they should fire any
coach during the season. I think what Virginia did that
early on this year, I mean, that's ridiculous. You fire
a coach during the season, be an NFL or college
theseas is down the cropper.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
And you know what, it's like it's like when you're
in school and you get a substitute teacher and the
teachers turns his back on you. You're throwing the races
at his head. I mean, it's chaos, That's what it is.
Don't you agree Firing a coach in the middle of
the season is chaos.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
I mean not really.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
I mean the teams that fired the coaches that responded
to what you talk about Ucla, they fired the coach.
They played better. You think about Virginia Tech, they fired
their coach. They had a little bomp out of it. Look,
I think you should fire the coach whenever you feel
like the progress has stalled. As you were telling me
James Franklin and those guys, they lost three in a
row early in the year. When Clemson was losing, it
seems like people wanted a new voice. I think you
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fire people when the fans grow tired of the current
program and there doesn't appear to be any growth or progress.
So when you do that, it gives you an opportunity
to get a jump start on the candidates. You may
lose a bunch of players because the transfer porter opens
for thirty days after firing. But yeah, if you feel
like you go move on, don't waste time. As soon
as you feel the urge. I think people should pull
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the plug on the experiment.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Penn State became the first FBS team in the last
thirty years to lose consecutive games as at least a
twenty point favorite. That's a bad deal right there. So
Vegas was heard yesterday too. So now they're writing about,
you know, the buyout for Penn State with James Franklin.
His contract pays him eight million a year through the
twenty thirty one season, plus a five hundred thousand dollars
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retention bonus. So to fire him during the season, Penn
State would need to pay him fifty six million dollars, including.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
What he's already been paid up to this point. All
right now.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
If the school wants to wait till after the year,
but they still want to fire him prior to next season,
they'd have to pay him forty eight million. Who started
this buyout deal? Because it's almost like it's almost like
an anchor. I mean, you can't get rid of these guys,
I mean forty eight million. If they want to fire
him before next season, that's absurd, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
I mean what's the point of having a contract if
you don't want to honor the contract. So while that's
not the contract, if you don't, if you don't have
a buyout, then why are we committing to a contract.
The buyout is part of protecting the coach from being
fired and make sure he guess is But the buyout
also has terms where the coach has to pay a certain.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Amount before he leaves.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
That's the point of having a contract so both parties
can honor it. They put that in to protect themselves,
but also to protect the coach. If you want to
move up, then it'll be If you want to move
on from a coach, then it's up to the alumni
base to boost the club, to pony up the funds
to move on, and then pony up more funds to
get a new coach. It's expensive when you make decisions
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that come back to bite you, and if you feel
like you didn't hire the right person, this is what happens.
Is punitive for not hiring the right people and not
supporting the right people as they're trying to progress the
program right.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
And I tell you a lot of times with the
buyout situation, if he does go to another school. Sometimes
another school picks up that buyout.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Yeah, I mean, that's that's how it operates.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
If they want a coach and they feel like a
coach is on the contrary, we want them. We want
them enough that we will pay the buy out and
then pay him a salary and exorbitant salary on top
of the buyout. It's expensive, but if you identify someone
that you want, and that's the cost of doing business.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Right, I'm hear what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
So, I mean, I don't think they're gonna get rid
of him. I think he's not only a nice guy,
I think he's a good coach. I mean, it just happens,
you know, you run into one of those deals. I mean,
it's a freak loss to lose to Northwestern, there's no doubt,
and they shouldn't lose to Northwestern, but it happens. It happens.
That's why they play the game. I know it sounds stupid,
but that's why they play the game. And really they
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should school like Penn State should roll over Northwestern. But
it's one of those days that happened.
Speaker 6 (17:49):
No.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
I mean, look, man, I think at this point, like,
let's have a real conversation because it's not in the headlines,
like perception becomes reality, and what it's eventually going to
do is the more they talk about James Franklin and
Penn State, the more likely recruits aren't going to go
to Penn State because there's uncertainty regarding the leader of
the program, and so if they're going to make the
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decision to move on from him, they need to make
it sooner rather than later, because all it's going to
do is impact the product. The more that you talk
about the coach being on shaky ground or being on
the hot seat, the less likely the blue chip recruits
are going to go there. So they need to make
a decision, pay the forty eight or fifty six million dollars,
move on or be quiet about it, because all you're
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doing is hurting the program with all the conversation, make
a decision fire him or retain them. But either way,
it's impacting the players that are coming to the program.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
And you mentioned this, we've got to go give him
a tip of the cap over here to Tim Skipper.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
The coach, the interim coach or the UCLA.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
They will owned four now they're two and one in
the big ten with a win yesterday over Michigan State,
a good win to thirty eight thirteen.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
So yeah, we'll get into that a little bit later on.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I just want to know, same roster, different coach, how
does he get that done?
Speaker 3 (19:02):
I mean, how does that happen?
Speaker 2 (19:03):
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minutes from now. But our good friend Deon Sander's won
a big game yesterday, Iowa State loses Colorado twenty four
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to seventeen.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
But I got a question.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I understand that Colorado was paying big bucks for Deon
Sanders personal bodyguard. Have you ever heard of anything like
this to these college coaches, the football coaches, so to speak,
Do they have bodyguards?
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Is that what's going on now?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
I'n't heard.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
I know that sometimes there's security, there's highway patrolman around.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Here coaches, particularly on game day.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
But in terms of Dion Dianna is different because Deanna
is a celebrity, so I think you have to kind
of put that in a separate category. And because you're
a celebrity, sometimes you have to have detail around you
at all hours. I don't know if most coaches are
living like that. If most coaches are viewed as celebrities,
so they may not need the full time attention when
it comes to being protected.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
It's amazing because they said the University of Colorado is
paying for his bodyguard. The bodyguard's name is Michael Rhodes
and he's a former police officer. He's paid forty and
eighty bucks to be part of the football entertainment enterprise
at Colorado.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
That's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
And you know what, I'm a little tired of people
jumping on Dion's back, jumping on Belichick's back, because I think,
like the media right now, they love to see how
profile people fail. I really believe that, you know, and
maybe at times I've done that as well. But the
point is that they just continue to hound and bang
on these guys even though they've had a great pass
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in their life.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
And I looked this up.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
They said, media exposure for coach Deon Sanders a Colorado
get this and they want to see him leave? Are
you kidding? The media exposure is valued at around three
point two billion with a b three point two billion
dollars media exposure for Colorado. First of all, those games
never used to be on TV. Colorado's on almost every
week right now.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Yeah, no, they didn't used to be on TV a ton,
and they are on a lot because Deon Sanders is
celebrity and what people typically do, particularly people in this
new media space, is you're trying to find people that
are popular and you try to either take a pro
or con opinion on them because by having that person
in the headlines, it generates a click, it generates a view,
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generates a like or dislike or whatever it is. But
it brings about attention. And the names that are polarizing,
Bill Belichick, Deon Sanders or whatever, they demand a lot
of attention or they're commanding a lot of attention because
that's what people want to hear.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
There is a love hate affair with Bill Belichick dating
back to his days in New England.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
This is a chance for all of the people that
have always liked him to dump on them. That's why
we're seeing all of these hit pieces on him, etc.
With Deon Sanders, there's some of that too, because people
didn't like the flamboyance to confidence, even the cockiness that
he exhibited.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
People don't like that.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
So any opportunity they have to humble him or to
give him a slice of humble pot, they want to
take advantage of that opportunity. And so what we're seeing
all these things playing out in real time because it's popular,
is buzzworthy, and if it's buzzworthy, is clickworthy, which brings
much coveted attention to everyone that's involved in it.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Right And I think the media right now loves to
see Belichick fail, which he probably will not fail. Eventually,
he'll turn it around because you can't build a team overnight.
I don't care how many people you get out of
the portal, But the point is that the media people said, aw,
here's a guy he never talked to us. We'll get
him now. That's what they're doing. I mean, you know
I could see it. I mean, you got to be
a fool not to see that. But we'll get into
the Belichick thing later, but right now, I want to
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talk about Joe Flacco. Forty year old Joe Flacco traded
to the Cincinnati Bengals from the Browns. How strange is that?
And what was your reaction when you heard that the
other day?
Speaker 5 (24:44):
I really didn't have like a strong reaction because you
knew Joe Flacco was going to be on the hot seat,
that he's going to be out. He was going to
go somewhere because he wasn't getting time to go to
play the young guy, so you knew what that was.
The thing that is only interesting about it is the
Cincinnati Bengals elected to make the move. And when they
made the move to move off of Jake Browning for
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a division rivals castaway, that's more telling to them. From
the Bengal standpoint on the field. It allowed them maybe
to push the ball down the field to t Higgins
and Jamar Chase. Jake Browning was struggling, wasn't playing well.
There's no way to avoid it. He wasn't playing well,
and so they're looking for a spark. They're still in
the race to two and three, Pittsburgh's at the top
of the AFC.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
North with three and one.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
They feel like they can get back in and so
they didn't give Joe Flacco an opportunity to be the
gun sling get to hold it down until Joe Burrow
gets back.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
I would say this, I think it was a good
move in the sensetep if it can't be any worse
than what they've had the last several weeks with Jake Browning.
But I got to tell you, I may be on
whalf based on this. But the key in sports you
have to be one of two things. You have to
be good or you have to be interesting. Right now,
the Bengals aren't good, but you know what, with the
addition of Joe Flacco, they're interesting. How people are going
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to watch and they're going to see how Joe Flacco
could do with a good receiving corps like you mentioned
T Higgins and Jamar Chase. That's the key right there.
Can he get it done? I don't know, could it
be any better than it was before? It's got to
be better. But I think they're going to be interesting
right now because you know, I just think the fan
base right now is getting a little tired of Jake
Browning and I feel bad for him, but he couldn't
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get it done.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
So I think it's going to be better right now
with Joe Flacco.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I mean potentially he could be better.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
I mean Joe Fleck has to learn the offense quickly
and they have to figure it out. But Joe Flacco
also has a turnover issue. A turnover problem is to
make sure that he doesn't turn the ball over. But
if he does that, yeah, it has an opportunity to
get significantly better for the Bengals in the next few weeks.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
The bad news is, and I don't think anybody really
touched on this, at least on the national level.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
I know locally they really didn't mention it either.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
The fact that the Browns let him go, I think
to me speaks volumes like what they think of him
in Cleveland, unless they're saying, look, he's not our future.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
We're gonna get rid of him. Is that the deal
right now?
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Because he was the starting quarterback, kind of had a
little bit of a rough spot, and they got rid
of him, and they got some backups right now, And
I'm kind of happy because Shidiah Sanders now is the
number one backup on that team and eventually he's gonna play.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
He's going to play right now.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
But to me, to let him go, to let Joe
Flacco go, to me speaks volumes like the brown said,
we don't need you anymore, we don't want you anymore.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
I mean, they had a young quarterback, They have two
young quarterbacks that they want to eventually evaluate so they
can see what they have coming up against the twenty
twenty six quarterback class. I don't believe they have a
lot of value in Shoudur Sanders, just given all the
conversation around him and the way that they portrayed him.
I think this is Dylan Gabriel's show, but they believe
they get Dlan Gabriel is a future franchise quarterback. That's
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why they took him in the third round ahead of Shadur.
So I don't think this is a we will play
the young guy to eventually get the Shadur. They believe
in Dylan Gabriel and people should treat the story as such.
Less conversation about Shadur, more conversation about Dylan until Dylan
falters in.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
A major way.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
But right now, this is about the Browns believing in
Dylan Gabriel more so than Sharduur being on on the
rise and having two quarterbacks so they want to move
on from Joe Flacco.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
It's more about them believing in Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
All right.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
I mentioned coming into the segment that history could be
made today. The Green Bay Packers have only won loss
this year, and guess what it came against the quarterback
they're going to be facing today, Joe Flacco with the
Cincinnati Bengals. Flacco's win over Green Bay was in Week
three while he was still playing for the Cleveland Browns. Okay,
now he's taken the field for the Cincinnati Bengals and
that trade, which is well on Tuesday, I think so
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thanks to the trade. Thanks to that trade, Flacco now
has a chance to make NFL history today by becoming
the first quarterback in the Super Bowl era to beat
the same opponent twice in one season while starting for
a different team. And that feed has only been accomplished
one time, and that came back in nineteen sixty two,
before the first Super Bowl was ever played. It was
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sixty three years ago. Jack Kemp led the Charges to
a forty fourteen win over the New York Titans. Now
that the Jets, that was in Week two. That's pretty big.
Now Flacco also has played for every team and that
vision except the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
It's crazy. He really is.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Was he been there eighteen years? I will say this,
and I think you'll agree. A very sturdy quarterback. I
don't think he's ever really been injured. But I don't
think he's a Hall of Fame guy. Although he was
a Super Bowl MVP. I don't see him getting into
the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
No, he is not a Hall of Famer, but he.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
Probably enjoyed one of the hottest runs that we've seen
someone who bettered themselves and had a great Super Bowl run.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
So he deserves credit for that. But he's a gunslinger.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
From the time that he came out of University of Delaware,
they were people that loved the prototypical traits, the big
arm in those things. And so he's had his moments
when he can get hot, and we saw it a
few years ago when he was NFL Comeback Player of
the Year in Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Maybe they can catch lightning in the ball in Cincinnati, right.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
I know everybody thinks the Bengals have problems, Well look
that got an excuse Joe. Joe Burrow's not playing. They
got another Joe right now, and they're two and three
with twelve games left. I think there's still some life
because I think that division is wide open. The team
that has some question walks right now, especially offensively, Philadelphia Eagles.
They lose to the Giants on Thursday night, thirty four
to seventeen, and I think the game before that, the
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game they had lost, I think something like Saquon Barkley
had eleven carries. Now, I remember this is like two
three years ago when the Eagles struggled the first half
of the season and they started to go to the
run game big time, heavily before sae Quon was there,
and they turned it around. Now I got a new
offensive coordinator. Why would they stay away from the run game.
You got a guy who picked up up with two
thousand yards last year and then not putting the ball
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in his belly.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
I don't get it.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Well, there's a lot of fighting in fighting between the
star personnel, and this happens when you have success.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Pat Rowley used to call it the disease of me.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
Everyone values their contributions more when you're part of a
winning team, and they believe that they should be rewarded
for that success, whether that's monetarily or with more opportunities.
That's how everyone feels. And when you have a bunch
of guys that have the disease of me, it starts
framing the team first concept because everyone is thinking about themselves.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
And not the team.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
And when you get that, you don't have a team
that plays well because they're functioning like a bunch of
independent contractors, and that's what we're seeing in Philadelphia. Until
everyone bues back into the team part of it, where
we're gonna do what's best for the team as opposed
to the individual, they'll never get back on track and
they'll never win games.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yeah, apparently, I guess it was Aj Brown that posted
something of a Bible verse on social media and then
he denied it, and Jalen Hurts and Saquon Barkley said
they met with Brown, and you're right that internal squabbling
could kill you.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
That's basically what it is.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I think that one time, once you get to the mountain,
and they were at the mountain less year winning the
Super Bowl, I don't think that the fire is there
as much. I mean, you played the game, you would
have the answer. You know these players, you know their mindset.
But I think that you strive for a Super Bowl,
you win the Super Bowl, then you could put it
in put it in neutral. You don't have that drive anymore.
I don't think Kansas City did. And that's amazing New
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England did, And maybe that's a coach's responsibility. I don't know,
but I think once you get to the top, it's
tough to stay there.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
It's tough to stay there because every human has to
fight off complacency. Most people's natural inclination is if you
get an A on a test, the next time you cruise,
maybe you make a SEE and you settle for a B.
Nick Saban always uses this analogy to talk about the
human mindset and how hard it is to be an
elite competitor that always wants to make a's on those
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tests because it requires you to not be swayed by
what happened previously, but to stay focused on the task
at hand. Most people aren't wired to do that, and
it's hard to get a team to approach a season
like that. Ay Man, Every game is an opportunity for
us to get better, no matter what we did the
week before. We want to be better the next week.
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And we're playing to a standard, not to a scoreboard,
meaning there has to be a feel to the way
that we play. We feel like we're playing at a
championship level based on when you look at us, the
way we're running to the ball, executing place, etc.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
About the final scoreboard.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
But it's hard for people to do that because a
lot of people look at the results and they're satisfied
if the results are positive. They don't really care about
the process of how they got there. A I won,
Why do we care if I had a couple mistakes
and miscues we still won the game. But the championship
teams and the teams that are able to sustain over
the long haul, they're always chasing an ideal standard of
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play and you have to stick to that.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
I mean, Eagles right now ranked twenty ninth the NFL
in total offense. Sakuon Barkley twelve carries for fifty eight
yards against the Giants, and he's averaging three point four
yards to carry after he led the league in rushing
and yachts from scrimmage last year.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Amazing. I mean, you look at that. It's kind of crazy.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
And if it doesn't change pretty soon, there's gonna be
some problems, major problems over there. All right, we roll
along right now. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Furman. We
are Fox Football Sunday on Fox Sports. Ready, it's time
for some real knowledge. What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Means? Ask Bucky? Is next? Ask Bucky? Coming right up?
Speaker 2 (33:59):
That's Bucket he Brooks on Andy from We're about twelve
minutes before the top of the hour on Fox Football Sunday.
We're a lot from the Fox Sports radio studios. Right now,
it's time for Ask Bucky. Brianna get it calling Brie.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
Okay, so I'm gonna throw actually to a collar out
in Boston, Andrew, what's your question for ask Bucky?
Speaker 9 (34:21):
Hey, guys, my question is Fucky, how do you feel
Drake May is doing? And also how do you put
up with Firman every weekend?
Speaker 7 (34:33):
What?
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Wait a minute, you gotta screen calls better than this?
Speaker 9 (34:37):
Oh? Good?
Speaker 1 (34:37):
All right?
Speaker 9 (34:38):
Berman, Andy, Yes, yes, can I ask you a quod questions?
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Go right ahead?
Speaker 9 (34:45):
About just about the contract? Like you would have a
buyout in your contract if Fox fortunes get you're out
of here for no reason. You would want money, you know.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Okay, good, you could be my attorney. You could write
it in my contract. Okay, let book answer you a
question about Drake May.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
DREMI is doing really well, Mike Rabel, Josh mcganne is
doing a great job of send him up for success.
He's someone who was very talented, but he was inconsistent
during his time in North Carolina. He has some Josh
Allen like qualities they're tapping into, not necessarily the athleticism
in terms of running, but just allowing him to be
the dude. And those dude qualities are certainly coming through
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for him with New England.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Wait a minute, you got to answer pot.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
B do you?
Speaker 5 (35:28):
And he's a wonder, He's a pleasure. He's a pleasure
to work with every Sunday. So I can't say anything
bad about I love you.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
I love you.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Okay, that sounds good.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
All right, pray next, Okay, Bucky's growing now, Pinocchio, have
you ever seen a coach get physical on the sidelines
with the player? We obviously saw Jonathan Cannon this past
Sunday with a Mari de Meccardo and he was actually
fined one hundred thousand dollars from the team versus like
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the league itself. So what do you think about that
just as a separate And then had you ever seen
a coach a physical with the player like on the
sideline like that?
Speaker 5 (36:05):
No, and it should never happen. Like as a coach,
you should always pribe yourself in being able to keep
you cool, and he obviously wasn't able to keep his cool.
So that's a bad look on Jonathan Gannon's part. No
matter the offense, it was egregious for I'm a ready
to drop the ball before he gets in the end zone.
But the coach has to be better than that. I
am glad that the Arizona Cardinals find him. I'm glad
that he had to serve some kind of punishment of
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consequence for his actions. He cannot do that. He cannot
approach a player like that. There has to be a
level of respect between player and coach.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Okay, I have an attendum to that question, if I
may breeze that. Okay, I want to know why the
player could or would or should Can he kind of
sue the.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Coach for assault? Just think about that?
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Now?
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Can he? Can he do that? Book? I mean, really,
he punched him, kind of punched him.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
Yeah, he can't sue him. He can't sue him for that.
Like I don't think that they would have any merrit.
But no, it's not a great look. Beca's not a
great look on the Organization's not a great look in
any way, shape or form.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
All right, go ahead, Bray, I'm sorry I.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
Was gonna say even I could have answered that question.
Of course, you wouldn't get sued.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
It's crazy to anybody, But I think that's a possibility question.
Speaker 6 (37:14):
That's for sure.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
Wow, just kidding, right, Beckie, We're just kidding. I'm just kidding, right, Okay.
Bears head coach Ben Jonson stated that he sees similarities
between Jaden Daniels and Caleb Williams. Is he hallucinating?
Speaker 5 (37:30):
I mean, I think there's some similarities in terms of
like the way they play. Both are athletic, Both can
make plays in the pocket outside of the pocket. Both
can play on time or play in a frenetic chaos.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
But I would say that Jade and.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
Daniels has been the one that has been more comfortable
playing on time than Caleb Williams. They're having to teach
Caleb Williams how to play on time and let the
place fully developed. But yeah, there's some similarities in terms
of their skill sets.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
You know, I got this, See, I wanted to play
the coaching cash game how much these guys get paid.
And I'm gonna mention the college coach buck, and you
tell us if he's overpaid or not, and then after
you tell me that, I'll tell you how much he's making.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
I looked that up is that? Okay, are you ready?
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Here's go.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Luke Fickle at Wisconsin.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Overpaid for the production and performance.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
He's making seven point eight million. Why he left Cincinnati,
I don't know. He had to go in there pretty
good and really and truly these guys make I mean,
do you look at the salaries they make. Do you
ever say to yourself, maybe you should have gotten into
college coaching.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
I mean it's big money.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
There's big money, but they move around too much. For me.
I didn't want that once I was done playing. I
didn't want to bunce around as much.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Okay, Lincoln Riley at Southern col too much or too little?
Speaker 5 (38:49):
It's too much based on what the expectations are at
USC even though he's done a great job of recruiting now,
it's still too much.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
The wins haven't tallied up.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
Eleven point five mill he's making all right.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Our good friend coach Bill Belichick in North Carolina, I
think it's even too early to even you know, approach
this with him, but you know, put him on the list.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
What do you think, Yeah, it's too much based on
how they're performing in all the chaos around the program.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Yeah, that's way too much.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
All right, you freeze at Auburn, You freeze at Auburn.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
Yeah, it's too much. I mean, did I win it
enough to do it? So like if you don't win enough,
it doesn't justify the salary.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
So no, you know what I would say this, he's
only I underline that he's only making six point seven mil.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Really, all right? How about Matt Campbell at Iowa.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
State underrated under jail, he's you.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Know, really and truly he's a bargain. He's he's making
five mil and he's the winning his coach in Iowa
State history, really and truly. I mean he's sixty nine
and fifty two with the cycle. It's pretty good five mil.
So what happens? Does he get a does they bump
him up or what he's gonna be gobbled up by a.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
No the school? What happens to a guy like Matt Campbell?
Speaker 1 (40:03):
I think he just stayed in build a legacy.
Speaker 5 (40:04):
He's done a really good job with the program under
his direction. I don't believe in that you always have
to bounce and find another job. Some jobs are statue jobs,
like be there where you can be rewarded for being
an excellent coach. And having a statue fixed after you.
I think Matt Campbell's just say, all.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
Right, got a couple of more coaches. I think I'm
gonna hold them over. We'll do that. But he's Bucky
Brooks and Andy Ferman, and these men really need to
step it up.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Who are they will tell you in so much more
Fox Football Sunday next.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
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couple of little tidbits for you, Buck. Are you ready
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about this coaching salary deal? Kurt Signetti and Indiana big
Win yesterday. I got to believe at eight point three mil,
he'll be bumped up pretty good, or maybe he'll jump
to a bigger school.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
You think is that a possibility?
Speaker 1 (41:35):
I certainly hope that.
Speaker 5 (41:36):
I don't know why people are always chasing different logos.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
Whatever. He has a nice spot in Indiana, he has
a good thing going. Why would he want to leave?
Speaker 5 (41:44):
You know, Like to me, if you do all the
work to get the program up and going, you should
want to see the fruits of your labor.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Hopefully he stays there. He's done a really good job.
Speaker 5 (41:53):
He out coached Oregon yesterday and the team is being
Look the team has been a playoff team and it
looks like they are top. Why would you want to
move on from that when you're just just beginning to
kind of put everything in place to have the program
the way that you want it.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
You know, I would say this, there's a new element.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
I would think when coaches jump from to school to
school in the college level, not so much your salary,
but I think that you're better off or you're better
served working in a college town where you're the only
team in town where the boosters really rally around. I mean,
you coach a college team in a major market, there's
a good chance that you're gonna be over sold or
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you know, in the shadows of professional sports, Bloomington, Indiana
did the only show in town. You're gonna get the
boosters rallying around. I think it's tough. Like for school
like Cincinnati, where you got pro football, pro baseball, pro soccer,
and another college team in town in Javier University, it's tough.
So I think that's another factor I think coaches may
look into.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
Do you agree.
Speaker 5 (42:55):
I believe that the booster network comes from the attendance
of this s school and the success that their alums
have had. Everyone wants to be associated with the winner.
So the more that you win, the more the boosters
are willing to open up their wallets to pay for it.
With Indiana, they have one of the largest alumni bases.
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They have one of the largest alumni pools when it
comes to money and endowments in those things, I think
it would be foolish for him to leave Indianda to
go somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
And we could say today quite honestly, that Indiana is
now a football school, not a basketball school anymore.
Speaker 5 (43:30):
I won't go so far as to say that they
are a football school, but he certainly has brought some
welcome attention to the football program, the success that they've had.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
In those things. It will always be known as a.
Speaker 5 (43:41):
Basketball school because the legacy of Bobby Knight. But no
one says that you can't be great in two sports
at one school. And so if Indiana becomes great in
football like their trending towards becoming, and if they can
rebuild and repair the basketball program, I'm sure there are
a lot of Hoosiers that would have preciate greatness in
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every level because everyone likes to have bragging rights and
being able to brag about the success of your school
in any form.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
No doubt about that. Okay, Brent Key, what a job
he's done at Georgia Tech. And I can't believe he's
only making he should say only he's only making a
four point five million year. The team is undefeated at
six and oh Georgia Tech, I gotta believe he'll be
jumping around. I just think that Brent's not going to
stay at Georgia Tech.
Speaker 5 (44:24):
Well, when he said George tickets his alma mater, He's
built it up. He's been there for a long time,
up and going.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Yeah. I mean they can pay him. He's in Atlanta.
He understands the lay of the land.
Speaker 5 (44:33):
He's got a ton of success doing it like this
team is legit, and he has his personality all on it.
And also, when you're britt Key and you're talking about
a program that had a long run of success on
the Paul Johnson, whether they like the offense that he
ran or not, Bricky understands, man, you can be there
for a long time. You fully can implement your program
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and see it all the way through. I don't think
he'd be in a hurry to move on from that.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Okay, who's the coach of the now in the NFL.
I think it's a guy in Jacksonville.
Speaker 5 (45:04):
I mean he's one of them. I mean, I think
there are a bunch of coaches that are doing good job.
Liam certainly deserves to be in that conversation. He consistently
he has a scene playing up. I mean, they've knocked
off some really good teams the last couple of weeks.
San Francisco and Kansas City. But there's more work to do.
But yeah, he's been terrific. He certainly should be in
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the conversation in terms of what he's doing, how he's
doing it, whatever. But I'm saying Dan Campbell should be there.
Dan Campbell should do it because he lost both coordinators,
he lost some players, he lost a ton of assistants,
and yet the Detroit Lions are flexing their muscles as
the best team in football. He deserves a lot of credit.
I would lean towards him being the coach a year
over anybody else.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Yeah, especially losing two coordinators. I mean, everybody thought he'd
be down the dumb They lost the first game of
the years. Oh here we go, it's over. He got
him back. He ratheried them before they could even think
of going the other direction. He got him right back
back and better than it might be, averaging like thirty
points a game.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
Okay, I thought about the age factor. You could be
on a bad team, injuries, all factors. While some players
who we expect to have better seasons are falling short
and who are they? Well, you wrote about that and
foxsports dot Com. I wanted to touch on that for
a little bit. And fantasy football guys, guys that play
fantasy football and women, they're probably getting stung by this,
you know. And there are guys that are surprising us,
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I mean the Jackson Darts of the world, they're surprising us.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
But those that are falling.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
Short that you wrote about foxsports dot Com, there's gotta
be a reason, okay, And it's very difficult. And you
mentioned this, I think just last week when you wrote
about it. Dereck Henry hard to say that really he's struggling.
I mean, look, he had forty nine carriages for two
eighty four and three touchdowns, and he was tied for
the NFL lead back at that point in time two
weeks ago. But he's the king and now all of
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a sudden he's having a rough time getting back on track.
Not really his fault, I just think is the players
around him.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
Is that true?
Speaker 1 (46:57):
Nah, he put the ball on the ground.
Speaker 5 (46:59):
I mean, he had a great season opener, but then
he fombled the ball. So he hasn't been the same. Yeah,
he hasn't been the same since he put it on
the ground. Maybe it's a mind thing or whatever. But
if he doesn't play with the same force and vigor.
It changes the dynamics of their offense. And Lamar Jackson
has been out that also makes it hard. It's a
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lot easier when there's a dynamic threat at quarterback to
be able to get off at running back. But no,
it hasn't looked great. They got to find a way
to fix it. They need him to play at a
high level to be able to win consistently.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
Well, yeah, I tell I'm surprised if this one you
wrote about him as well. I mean, when Pete Carroll
took over in Las Vegas, I thought it'd be a
good marriage. Bring a Geno Smith back. This guy, Geno
Smith has become a turnover machine. Hey, I don't know
what happened to him. I mean, he maybe just lost it,
lack of confidence. I don't know what it is. But
he got to turn it around quickly because that team
isn't good anymore.
Speaker 5 (47:49):
Now the team isn't good and it's as far because
he's turning the ball over too much.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
That's on him. He's trying to do too much.
Speaker 5 (47:55):
He's trying to be a hero as opposed to play
within the confines of the offense and the players go
through this where ego gets involved. His ego get involved,
and that's why he's turning it over.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
He has nine interceptions nine and five.
Speaker 5 (48:09):
Games, they have ten. They lead the league in giveaways.
That's why the Raiders aren't winning. You turn the ball over,
you losing this league. That's just what it is.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
What about saus Gardon, I mean, not only is he
having some problems with penalties, but he's basically pointing his
finger at the officials saying that because his team isn't winning,
the Jets, you know, they're getting penalized more so than
other teams. I mean, that's a weak excuse, I think.
I mean, really, he's just not playing well.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
I mean two things can be true at once.
Speaker 5 (48:41):
He's not playing well, but they certainly don't get the
benefit of the doubt when it comes to you know,
the tiki tag calls that some teams get away with
and a lot of times.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
To the victor goes to spoils.
Speaker 5 (48:53):
The better you are, the more breaks you get because
people expect to see you win, and there's a natural
bias that comes in there for the Jets.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
They're losers, they've been losers, and you don't get that.
Speaker 5 (49:05):
You have to overcome that stigma and overcome some of
the things that come along with that. And they can
do it, but they they have to win before it changes.
Right now, the perception is terrible on.
Speaker 3 (49:15):
It, no doubt about that. Here a guy. You are
close to.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
This guy, Brian Thomas wide receive it for you at
Jacksonville Jaguars. Maybe having this sophomore slump. I don't know
what it is, but he's gonna be the number one guy.
He's the number one option you would think in Jacksonville
right now through four games, just twelve catches.
Speaker 3 (49:31):
But maybe it's the new head coach. Maybe the system.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
I don't know what the system basically is or was.
I couldn't tell just by looking. Maybe you can. You're there,
you're on there, you're there every week and you see practices.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
But what happened to Brian Thomas.
Speaker 5 (49:46):
He started out at the beginning of the season, dropping
past is just having a tough time holding on to
the ball. He has come out of that of late.
He's performed better, making some big plays. We saw some
big plays on Monday night against Kansas City Chiefs. It's
just u you know, sometimes the expectations that you put
on yourself can bog you down in your mind, meaning
you have a great first season and you expect to
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pick up where you left off and it just doesn't
happen like that. He's getting better, it's just tough. It's
tough being the number one. There are a lot of
expectations that come with being the number one receiver, and
he just has to kind of.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
Step up to the plate.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
You're speaking of number one receiver. This guy as the
first round pick chrys Olave with the Saints. He's got
an excuse. That team is just bad. It's a bad
team and a bad quarterback. So you know, I kind
of give him. I'll pass, I'll give him a past
chrys Olave.
Speaker 5 (50:37):
I mean yeah, I mean he's overcoming like concussion issues.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
The team hasn't been great.
Speaker 5 (50:42):
They're trying to figure it out, trying to figure out
who they are and what they're about. It's one of
those things where they just have to continue to find themselves.
And having him win last week against the Giants, being
able to see Spencer Radlar get it together. But a
lot of is a talented player. He's too good to
struggle the way that he.
Speaker 3 (50:59):
Stroke no doubt about that.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
Okay, speaking of falling shot, and these guys are falling
short and hopefully, you know, for them, they would turn
it around. But let's talk about some other people that
are falling short. The NFL and the goal line. It's
eight inches stick eight inches has white paint stretched across
a fifty three and a third yard width of the
playing field, separates the green grass from the playing field.
So it's really hard to miss it really is. But
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a couple of guys are doing that. Okay, they're dropping
the ball before they get to the end zone. For
two consecutive weeks of player released the ball right before
the goal line.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
All right, what is happening? Why is this? Why are
they falling short?
Speaker 2 (51:36):
I talk about premature okay, the pretre premature touchdown celebrations.
Is this a problem in the league? Is in an accident?
These guys are going to continue to do it. It's
killing the league. I mean, really, Arizona lost that game
last week because of that. Tennessee got to win out
of that deal. They really did. I mean, and as
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a fan, you don't want to see that. I don't
care about celebrations. I mean, what do they say in
Jacksonville does a coach even mention that they talk about it.
I mean, I don't get it. When Mitchell had that
seventy five you had touchdown catch and he dropped it.
He just let the ball go down. I mean, Indianapolis
should be undefeated now. I mean, really, it's a terrible
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thing for teams to do that. And I could just
imagine what the guy who drops the ball feels like
in that locker room after the game.
Speaker 5 (52:27):
The guys are so there's so many things this has happened.
It's been happening for a long time, going all the
way back to DeShawn Jackson dropping the ball in two
thousand and eight against the Cowboys before.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
Going into the end zone.
Speaker 5 (52:40):
They eventually scored, but it was one of the first
times we've seen International Football League player drop the ball
before they got into the zone. He did the same
thing in the US Army game back in two thousand
and five when he was a high school senior. He
did a flip landy short of the goal line and
fumbled the ball going in. Sometimes people just get so
caught up in wanting to show that they sacrifice the.
Speaker 1 (53:02):
Fundamentals going in, and I understand it.
Speaker 5 (53:04):
I'm a kid of the era when Billy White Shoes
Johnson would do the funky Chicken after scoring touchdowns for
the Atlanta Falcons, and I would seeing.
Speaker 1 (53:13):
It and want to do that.
Speaker 5 (53:14):
And sometimes people get so caught up in the cool factor,
and the cool factor exists in seven on seven culture
where these kids are really more known for their celebrations
than the plays, and so you spend all your time
thinking about how cool can I be when I get
into the end zone, as opposed to really following the fundamentals.
And I've heard NFL coaches talk about letters and logos
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when you get into the end zone. Don't put the
ball down until you see the letters in logos in
the paint. When you do that, they know you've crossed
the goal line, et cetera. But guys have to do that,
they're just losing sight of the bigger goal, the bigger
goals to score for your team and win.
Speaker 2 (53:53):
Okay, you were in the era of Billy White Shoes
Johnson doing that doing that, and it was good, it
was funny, and it was entertaining, no doubt about that.
I'm in the air as a kid growing up when
Homer Jones of the New York Football Giants number forty five.
I remember him, like goes yesterday. He invented the spike.
He would get a touchdown pass going to the end
zone and just slammed that ball on the ground. It
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was Homer Jones who started doing that at first, all right,
but he was in the end zone. These guys were
in the end zone when they did that, and the
other fellas are dropping the ball prior to their spinning
the ball around. They're trying to get one hand to
the other. It doesn't work. The NFL players, I believe,
should not have to be told to hold onto the
football until they're deep into the end zone. All right,
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what do coaches say that they give them any pet talk?
I mean, the acter tell him this. Maybe coaches should
demand that the players weren't out of the back of
the end zone before they let go of the football.
Or maybe teams maybe should start finding these players instead
of like in Arizona, the coach punching him find the
guy and the coach ended up getting fined for one
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hundred grand. Right, it's terrible. I mean, it's unbelievable a release. Honestly,
it's just there's too much of a punishment. I don't know.
I don't know what they could do, but I think
it's disgusting to lose a game like that.
Speaker 5 (55:06):
Yeah, I mean, you don't like to lose due to
self inflicted errors.
Speaker 1 (55:11):
And if you're going to play this game, you want
to play it the right way. And you have to
talk to them.
Speaker 5 (55:17):
No matter who they are, they're pros, you still got
to coach them like their high school players. You have
to talk to them about the things that are important
to being able to win games. And one of the
things that's important to being able to win games is
not beat on now sales with the stupid plays.
Speaker 1 (55:29):
And that's a stupid play. If you're about to score
a touchdown and you drop the ball before the end zone.
Speaker 5 (55:33):
That's stupid. That's just what it is. It's a dumb play.
Put the ball in the paint. Make sure you have
to every play you hand the ball to the referee.
You can hand the ball to the referee and go
and do whatever celebration you want to do, but don't
sacrifice the execution for the show voting. And people are
sacrificing that to show vote.
Speaker 2 (55:52):
You know, how much do coaches talk about how one
should have their should act.
Speaker 3 (56:00):
I mean, certainly coaches go over plays.
Speaker 2 (56:02):
I watch all those shows, the HBO deal, you know,
prior to the season, and they show whether the coaches
you know, in.
Speaker 3 (56:09):
Meetings and whatever it may be.
Speaker 2 (56:11):
But I don't see coaches really talking how players should
behave really, I mean, how you decorum, you know, off
the field, you know, when you meet people, when you
talk to the press. You know, it's all about x's
and o's and how you do plays. But the coaches
actually get a hold of a player and say you
shouldn't do this, you should act like this, you shouldn't
do it.
Speaker 3 (56:31):
I mean, really do they do that?
Speaker 2 (56:32):
I mean back in the day, I remember the Bengals
used to have to wear shirts and ties on away trips.
Speaker 3 (56:37):
I don't think that. I don't think any team does
that now.
Speaker 5 (56:41):
No, I mean, but I think you have to tell them,
like there's certain standards and expectations for what you want
to see, and you'll see this.
Speaker 1 (56:48):
You'll see people in two minute.
Speaker 5 (56:49):
Drills make sure they hand the ball to the ref
or do whatever those things are.
Speaker 1 (56:54):
The coach has to figure out what he values most
and what he wants his.
Speaker 5 (56:57):
Team to be about, and what he wants him to
look like. And if you want certain things from your team,
you have to demand it and the way that you
get what you demand. And so if you want them
to give the ball to the rift and you demand it,
regardless whether they're pros and A do you think but
I do not want to see us penalized for not
putting the ball in the paint.
Speaker 1 (57:15):
Give the ball to the rift and go do whatever
celebration that you want to do.
Speaker 2 (57:19):
Okay, we've always been told, I mean media people say
this all the time. The team takes to put to
you personality of the head coach. Okay, so if a
team is sloppy with penalties, if a team has players
as show voting, does that mean see you never saw
that in New England with Belichick coach. That would never happen. Really,
so they do take after the coach. So coaches don't care.
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Is that what it is?
Speaker 3 (57:42):
I mean?
Speaker 2 (57:42):
Today we have the Cardinals playing the Colts. Is that
fate that over the last two weeks, those are the
two teams that had guys show voting and went into
the end zone and dropped the ball. The Cardinals playing
at the Colts today, it's amazing and believe me, they'll
be showing those three plays during that game on TV.
Speaker 1 (57:57):
That I promise you, yeah, I won't say that they
don't care.
Speaker 5 (58:01):
I think sometimes guys have brain forests and they mess up.
Speaker 1 (58:04):
But you get what you emphasize.
Speaker 5 (58:05):
And so if you emphasize a certain level of execution
and play or whatever, you will get it because you
have to hold them accountable to what your expectations are
as the head coach, as the leader of the program.
Speaker 1 (58:19):
So you can get it.
Speaker 5 (58:19):
You can get guys to acquiesce to to what you
want them to do, but you have to be consistent
and you have to be consistent every day in demanding
that stuff. And if you do that, eventually they're changed
or you find somebody else they can get it done.
Speaker 3 (58:33):
Right.
Speaker 2 (58:33):
Let's talk a little bit about this Cardinals game at
the Colts senate coach that I say the coach should
probably be five and zero. Carlinos have lost three straight.
They're two and three right now in Arizona. They lost
three fumbles last week to the Titans. I mean, you
just stop, you know the key stating football really and
truly when you want to get right down.
Speaker 3 (58:49):
To it, it's turning the ball over.
Speaker 2 (58:51):
The team that doesn't turn the ball over the most
usually wins the ball game. Stop looking at stats, what
a quarterback throws for and all these deals. Right now,
it's all about turnovers, isn't it. It's turnover battle that
wins the game.
Speaker 5 (59:02):
Yes, and it always will be. It'll never change. It
is always about the turnovers. You turn the ball over,
you lose games in this league, and you have to
kind of find a way to minimize that. If you
minimize the turnovers, it gives you a shot to be
able to get it done. But the first thing that
you have to do is minimize the turnovers. Make sure
that you give yourself a chance by taking care of
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the ball that every turn.
Speaker 2 (59:27):
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Speaker 3 (59:44):
But this team's winning. They are they're winning.
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Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
Tampa Bay Bucks. But one team is at the top
of the food chain.
Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
Here.
Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
You want to take a guest, let's go around. You
want to take a guest, Brie, our producer. You want
to think, I guess which team we're talking about right
now that's winning.
Speaker 4 (01:01:27):
I was gonna say the New Orleans Saints, but I'm
starting to think that's correct.
Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
Yeah, don't embarrass yourself. I'm rude, Bucky, you'll have the answer.
I know, Bucky, You'll know.
Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
No, I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
The New England Patriots. The New England Patriots are three
and two. They're playing at New Orleans today though, Brie
and the Patriots have a winning record after five games
for the first time since they were five and oho
and twenty nineteen. How do you like that? And Sunday night.
They beat Buffalo in Buffalo, So Bucky Brooks is the
perfect guy to get into this in dissect.
Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Drake May.
Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
We had a caller early on, but that guy didn't
know what he was talking about because he insulted me.
Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
But let's look at their quarterback. Drake May, a North
Carolina guy.
Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
His five game output on offense is the Patriots best
since twenty seventeen. What has Mike Vrabel done to turn
this team around with the same personnel as a year ago.
Speaker 5 (01:02:19):
Well one, it's not exactly the same. They brought in
a ton of free agents. There were old, grizzled guys,
a bunch of his guys that are tough seeing quarterback, physical,
those things, and so defensively they play a tough brand
of ball. The physicality, the toughness, understanding who they are. Offensively,
Stefan Diggs matching up with Drake May has been good
(01:02:40):
because it gives him a quality receiver to throw to,
someone who's dependable and reliable, trustworthy. That's critical for a
young quarterback to know that when I throw the ball
to the spot, this player's going to show up and
be there. That has helped they've attempted to run the football,
even though Ramondre Stevenson has had some fumble issues. They've
tried to really manage the game, control the game at
least a quarterback when it's been favorable. And look, he's
(01:03:03):
flourished in this thing. And when you look at the Patriots,
it's important to not measure them on their statistical output,
but more so on how they control the game. They
make people play in a style that they don't like playing,
and they have a lot of success because they're great
in situational football.
Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
They do a.
Speaker 5 (01:03:23):
Terrific job of dominating the line of scrimmage, and their
physicality and toughness can wear you down if you're not
prepared for it.
Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
You know, it's funny you got the Patriots playing at
New Orleans today. And also I was amazed really in
fact that they had some takeaways and the takeaways last
week we talked about takeaways as the key to the game.
You know, which team has to at least them out
of the takeaways. That's what won the game for New
Orleans last week. They scored points or if their takeaways.
So we can see what happens right now. It won't
be an easy game. For the Patriots. I like the Patriots.
(01:03:52):
I'd like to see them win. But also you talk
about mistakes and takeaways. They're running backs. They both fumbled
again last week against the Bills, but obviously New England
won the game. But Stevenson and Gibson fumble the football.
You got to stop fumbling the football, keep the football
in There are there any drills in football that could
keep a player from not fumbling, you know, whey they
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hold the ball. I mean, I'm seeing guys getting the
ball punched out when they started running the ball right now.
Is there a drill that could keep them from not fumbling?
Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
I mean, you just have to always be aware of it.
Speaker 5 (01:04:24):
I mean, there's no one that can guarantee that you're
never going to fumble, but you have to be conscious
of taking care of the football in traffic, two hands,
they're holding it high and tight whenever in the open field,
handing the ball to the ref at the end of
every play, to make sure that you don't get loosey
goosey with it at the end of runs. All those things.
There has to be a heightened sense of aware and
that's when it comes to turnovers.
Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
You can't turn the ball over.
Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
Yeah, that's the key. I know a lot of people do,
I mean stupid turnovers as well. You know, you talk
about turning it around. New England looks like they're turning
it around with Rabel and he's tough. I mean, he's
a tough guy. And talk about team taking the image
of their coach, they're certainly doing that in New England.
But let's talk about your alma matter for a second.
And their coach, Bill Belichick, was when the University of
North Carolina hired the guy Bill Belichick the coach their
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football team, and it wasn't in bad shape. But you know,
they said they wanted a younger guy, but they ended
up getting a coach older than their former coach. But
what happened when they hired him. They sold out the tickets,
the donations were coming in. They had excitement all over,
not only Chap a little bit, I guess the entire
state of North Carolina of getting the greatest coach and
I say it in capital letters, the greatest coach of
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all time. Bill Belichick kind of turned that program around
and after ten months, right now they want him gone.
The enthusiasm is gone. North Carolina's blowout laws to a
team of like Clemson.
Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
Which is mediocre. The wreck was two and three.
Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
I watched that game on TV and by halftime, everybody
was gone. Look, they say Rome wasn't built in the day.
I didn't think that Bill Belichick would have a losing
record this year, but I didn't think they'd win double
digit ball games.
Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
It takes time, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
Sure you're going through the portlar get play you talked
about early on, and I listened to you, and I
listened to you with two years. That's why God gave
me two years and one mouth two years. I listen
to you. You know, it takes time to mesh these
players coming together out of the portal. I still think
he's going to turn it around, but I worry will
they give him the time to turn them around? Turn
it around at North Carolina, come on the two and
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three and this play and the problems off the field,
the armand Hawkins was suspended assistant coach.
Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
For rules violation.
Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
It's not a good look. It really isn't. But I
just hope they keep him there. I hope he wants
to stay there.
Speaker 5 (01:06:36):
Look, I mean, the other thing that North Carolina can
focus on is what the product looks like on the field,
Bill Belichick has to go to work, has to make
the team better. Despite the disappointment that everyone has around
the program, sitting here at two and three, two and four,
wherever they are, they just have to focus on what
they can control, and that's the next time they have
a chance to play. They need to play better than
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they played previously. They played Kale on the seventeenth. Expect
them to take the bye week that they've had last
week and then the game week to get ready to play.
No matter what people say, TCU, Clemson, the teams that
they were blown out by, I mean even UCF, Clemson
and TCU were better than North Carolina on paper.
Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
They didn't go in as favors. They shouldn't have gone
in as favors.
Speaker 5 (01:07:17):
Vegas can say whatever, like those teams were better, they
were well constructed or whatever. UCF game is probably the
one that's the most disappointing, but you lost it. So
you got to acknowledge whatever you did wrong in those
losses and you have to fix it and make it better.
And hopefully they did that during the bye week. But
this was not going to be a double digit win team.
Whoever believed that was looking at this team in Carolina
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blue glasses and not really being real with what it is.
And they have to ignore the noise and keep playing
because the noise is going to be loud because there
are a lot of casuals that are checking in, there
are a lot of haters that are checking in, and
they just have to focus on what they control, was
the product.
Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
Okay, the question here and this is the crazy established.
Now you know everybody's looking at this program through in
my scope. It's not just the coach. It's not just
the one lost record. It's everything from top to bottom
with his girlfriend and all that stuff. Look it should
be just what's happening on the field. And look, it'll
turn around. I know it's going to turn around, because
he's too good of a coach not to have a turnaround.
Speaker 3 (01:08:13):
But it takes time. But they suspended their quarterbacks coach.
Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
Armand Hawkins for recruiting violations, and according to the Athletic
the other day, they said it's related to extra benefits
afforded to recruits. How in the hell do you give
recruits extra benefits where they're getting paid nil money anyway?
And well, how stupid can you be to be doing that.
Speaker 5 (01:08:31):
Well, they said he provided sideline passes and access, so
that's a violation of the rules.
Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
Then you have to punish because those are the rules.
That's what it is.
Speaker 5 (01:08:40):
And if he did it, then they're gonna punish him.
They're removing them from the field and eventually from the staff,
and they'll make sure they don't make those mistakes again.
Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
That's part of it.
Speaker 5 (01:08:51):
Like there's rules violations that are committed and everyone that
is caught they have to serve their time or their punishment,
whatever it is. And so Carolina will have to face
up for self reporting what took place and on up
to it. The other things are the other things, like
it is salacious to talk about a seventy three year
old man with a mid twenty something girlfriend. It is
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always going to be salacious in that aspect. I mean,
that's just what it is. Is something that society deems
to be incorrect, and it's weird and cringey and all
that other stuff. And so it plays out in the university.
It's wrapped up in that part of the soap opera.
They have to figure it out. But they knew he
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was dating her when they hired him. And so they
had to be prepared for the storm of criticism and outcries.
Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
And stuff that came with it.
Speaker 5 (01:09:44):
The main thing is this, the only thing that anyone
really cares about is whether they're winning or losing. So
Bill Belichick and the staff need to focus their efforts
on finding a way to win games.
Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
The more you win.
Speaker 5 (01:09:54):
The less do they have an opportunity to take shots
at the program.
Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
So focus on winning games.
Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
Here's my question to you.
Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
If you play for North Carolina, you're close to the program,
you know what's going on.
Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
You got your head to the ground on this, all right.
Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
Do you think that players in the locker room really
care that he's dating a twenty four year old girl
or does it hurt him?
Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
Does it affect him?
Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
And moreover, if he's going out to recruit and it
goes into a parent's home in their living room, the
parents are going to bring that up to him and say,
I don't want my son playing for you. If you're
dating a woman that young, Could that hurt him or
will it hurt him in that regard?
Speaker 5 (01:10:33):
I don't think he will hurt him, But there's gonna
be some isolated incidents where that stuff comes up and
you know what, if they don't want to be coach
from me, then you go on to the next one.
Every program is not a fit for every player, and
you have to be resolute and knowing who you are
and what you're about, and you have to be committed
to sticking to the brand. And whatever the brand is
that Carolina is promoting. They have to make sure that
recruits and players that they bring it to the program
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fit that.
Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
And just because it starts off slow, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 5 (01:10:58):
It depends on how this team finished first year, new culture,
new environment, new process. You want to make sure that
you're playing your best ball down the stretch as everyone
acclimates to the new way of doing thing and eventually
succeeds within the new way of doing things. That's the
only thing that you can do when you're a coach
taking over a new program.
Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
They've had three losses by twenty five points and more.
Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
I was still this. I'll go to my grave by
saying this. He's the greatest NFL coach of all time.
I don't know how this happens. I guess just the
melting pot of players coming in from all areas and
trying to get it together to learn a new system
in one shot.
Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
And I guess you expect.
Speaker 5 (01:11:33):
You don't know how what happens, how you lose three games,
or how you lose by twenty five points in three games.
Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
Well, I mean, which part of.
Speaker 5 (01:11:42):
The surprise, Which part of your surprise that those teams
are better?
Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
The teams are better.
Speaker 3 (01:11:49):
The Central Florida game is bad.
Speaker 5 (01:11:51):
The Central far Other game is absolutely bad. That's the
one that stands out like a red herring. Clemson was
being talked about as being a national champion. They stumbled
out the gate or whatever. But let's not act like
Clemson are the little sisters of the poor, and they
don't have talent, and they're not a team that we
expected to be a playoff team, so they were expected
to lose. The Clemson TCU was a bit of a
toss up, just because TCU is a really good program.
(01:12:14):
But it's the season opening. Two years ago they played
Colorado and Colorado took them down. Given that experience where
they played Colorado and all of the noise that came
with it, they were better prepared to take it on
this time. What we have are a program being measured
by outsiders expectations. What matters more. What weoure the internal expectations.
(01:12:36):
What do they really expect this team to be? Do
they expect this team to be an eight win team
or a timent team.
Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
Whatever that is. That's what they have to measure.
Speaker 5 (01:12:44):
And while all the noise is going, everyone inside the
building just needs to focus on what they can control,
and that's their job.
Speaker 1 (01:12:51):
They do their job, focus on that part of it.
Let the noise.
Speaker 5 (01:12:54):
The people are going to talk, because if it turns around,
those same people that are talking negatively will then find
a way to write articles that are positive because the
name brings clickbait and value in buzz. That's why people
keep talking about North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
You're exactly right, and you know I'm gonna make a
long comparison over here to your Jacksonville Jaguars and the
loss against Central Florida. For North Carolina, Jacksonville was better
and it is a better team thans the Cincinnati Bengals.
They're four and one. They should be five and zero
right now. That was a bad loss. The Central Florida
game was a bad loss. It happens, Okay, I'm sure
(01:13:27):
that was really a loss that still rings mightily in
the hearts of the coaching staff of Jacksonville right now,
as they see what the Bengals have become. They should
have beaten that game. They should have beaten the Bengals
in that game in Cincinnati. It's a bad loss, but
it happens, right and just just the nature of the game.
But we'll see what happens to the rest of their way.
(01:13:48):
That's the key right there. But I will tell you
this much, I think that Bill Belichick and the minds
of some they're gonna say his legacy is gonna be tarnished.
They're gonna say that it was Brady not Belichick, and
those people are crazy, and you're right.
Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
They just want clicks as all they do. He is
the greatest coach in the history of the nege.
Speaker 5 (01:14:05):
Like, it doesn't matter all that stuff about the Brady
is it Brady, is it Belichick or whatever, It doesn't
really matter.
Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
At the end of the day.
Speaker 5 (01:14:12):
There's not a great coach who hasn't done it without
great players. Vince Lombardi had a slew of Hall of
famers at his watch.
Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
That is why he won.
Speaker 5 (01:14:21):
Typically, the team that wins the team that has the
better players. It is a policy in the myth that
we romanticize that the coach out coached somebody else to win.
Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
Bill Wash with the San Francisco forty nine ers.
Speaker 5 (01:14:34):
One because he had Joe Montana and Jerry Rice and
others that are in the Hall of Fame like Ronnie Lott.
Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
That is what it takes.
Speaker 5 (01:14:39):
It takes Hall of Fame caliber players to coach at
a Hall of Fame level.
Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
It has never changed and it will always be that way.
Speaker 5 (01:14:47):
So a lot of this is performative art that we
do on our side in the media when we have
these discussions about oh, is it Brady, is it Belichick
or whatever, it's all of them because it takes all
of them, great coach, great players to be able to
win at the highest level.
Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
Well said Bucky Brooks.
Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
I'm Andy Fermweil Fox Football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio,
and it's time to blow off some steam. It's the
Blame Game, and you know what it's freaking next on
the Blame Game coming right up. I'll tell you it's
about eleven minutes before the top of the hour. That
will be eight am on the East Coast. And at
the top of the hour, Mike Harmon, Swollen Dome and
Greg co Cell will be joining you right here on
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Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (01:15:26):
He's Bucket Brooks.
Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
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Speaker 3 (01:15:53):
Now it's time for the play game. You ruin me.
Speaker 7 (01:15:57):
It's all your fault, it's your fault, fault.
Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
Maybe it's everyone's fault.
Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
Who knows.
Speaker 7 (01:16:08):
He's a liar.
Speaker 3 (01:16:08):
That's why there's the blame game, the blame game. Let's
figure out who to blame the blame game. He's a liar. Oh,
go ahead, Bray, it's all you, Okay.
Speaker 4 (01:16:18):
The Eagles, with a new offensive coordinator, are struggling on
that side of the ball. Where is the run game?
And who do you blame?
Speaker 5 (01:16:25):
Andy?
Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
You can go First, I'm blaming the offensive coordinator. It's
proven fact that in years past when things are going
south for the Eagles, they started running the football. You
give sa Kwon Barkley, who is the offensive player of
the year a year ago, over two thousand yards eleven carries.
Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
It's got to be the coaching staff, in particular zuro
wing in on the offensive coordinator, probably.
Speaker 3 (01:16:46):
Trying to make a name for himself. No, go with
what got you there?
Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
No, that's the players. When you have a J.
Speaker 5 (01:16:53):
Brown and others voice and concerns about touches as opposed
to focus on the big part, which is winning, you
have an issue he career. It's a distraction. Makes it
harder for the offensive coordinator and focus on the things
that make the team successful because then you subconstantly are
trying to please everybody and they just need to win
the games.
Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
If you win the games, guys can get over it.
Just find a way to win the game.
Speaker 3 (01:17:13):
You know what. That's I'm gonna give Bucky a point
and that he's right. I blew that one.
Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
I think that it's the plays internal internal dissension over there.
Give me the ball. That's basically what it's okay, Bookie
gets that one.
Speaker 4 (01:17:25):
Okay. Aaron Glenn is the only Jets the head coach
to start own five in his first year with the team. Bucky,
who do you blame?
Speaker 5 (01:17:32):
I blame him, like you're coaching it or allowing it
to happen. The team is on five, they play close games.
Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
The thing that has lost.
Speaker 5 (01:17:39):
They played three one score games that they've lost, but
they haven't found a way to get it done.
Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
They have to find a way to get it done.
Speaker 5 (01:17:45):
I believe in ag I like what they're trying to do,
but the end of the day, it's the bottom line business.
Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
You gotta win games, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
I like to see them win, and I think that
he can win, but you have to have that winning attitude.
Once they get over the hump. If they win one
of those close games, I think they could turn it
around because I don't think there as bad as their record.
But right now, when you start losing and their own
five after their first five, you get the tight end,
the tight butt, and the thing appointing starts and then
(01:18:14):
it gets really ugly. I don't think he's lost the
locker room. I really don't, and I think they're decent
but they got to turn it around rather quickly.
Speaker 4 (01:18:22):
All righty, So those the Raiders are struggling offensively, and
coach Pete Carroll made a comment about the game plan
not being great surrounding ash and gent who do you blame? Andy?
Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
That's bad? Keep that internally. I gotta believe the head coach.
You just can't go public with the game plan. The
fans don't care. I honestly, Bucky, I don't believe fans
care about game plan.
Speaker 3 (01:18:44):
They care about results, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
And when the coach starts going public about game plan,
that's not good.
Speaker 5 (01:18:49):
Not a good thing, No, not a good look for
pekr he knows better. I would blame Pete Carroll, be goes. Ultimately,
Chip Kelly has to do with Peak Cara wants. So
Pete Carroll needs to going in and tell him exactly
what he wants. And maybe he doesn't get it. He
has to demand change or.
Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
He has to change the player that's called the person
that's called in the place.
Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
I agree, is that him?
Speaker 4 (01:19:14):
That's exactly him?
Speaker 3 (01:19:15):
Was that Pete Carroll? Literally you'll get another piece of
chewing gum.
Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
Pete go ahead?
Speaker 6 (01:19:19):
Really okay?
Speaker 4 (01:19:20):
So justin Herbert, the Chargers quarterback, is on pace to
finish his sixth season in the NFL with six hundred
and twenty five total hits. Andrew Luck was hit five
hundred and eighty times in his six year NFL career
before he abruptly retired.
Speaker 3 (01:19:33):
Who do you blame Bucky the injuries.
Speaker 1 (01:19:36):
On the offensive line.
Speaker 5 (01:19:37):
I mean, as much as the coaches want to keep
him protected, they can't keep their guys away from the
blue tent. All of the injuries up front impacted their
ability to protect him. And if he's not protected, he's
going to get hit. That's how it is.
Speaker 3 (01:19:51):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
Wait, wait just to say it, could it possibly be
the guys like Andrew Luck and Justin Herbert are really
not that mobile quarterbacks and also holding onto the ball
too long as well. We've seen that with Russell Wilson.
Really you hold on to the ball, you go to
get hit. I mean there's only amount of time was
a two point five seconds? So yeah, you're right about
the offensive line, But I think the offensive line on
various teams gets a lot of blame for sometimes they
(01:20:14):
don't need to get that blamed.
Speaker 3 (01:20:16):
Do you agree with that? Buff?
Speaker 5 (01:20:18):
No, it's the blame game. They gotta get blamed. That's
what we do. We blame people. Everyone's responsible for the results,
so they need to be blamed. Blaming the offensive line.
Did I play well enough? That's why they getting hit?
Speaker 3 (01:20:28):
How do you like that? Anything else?
Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
Bre?
Speaker 3 (01:20:30):
You got anything else for us?
Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
No?
Speaker 4 (01:20:32):
I think you guys hit them all?
Speaker 3 (01:20:34):
Really?
Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
What about the Saints? Saints places we can.
Speaker 3 (01:20:38):
They're gonna win, Bucky Right
Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
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