Andy Furman & Bucky Brooks discuss the NBA Gambling Scandal, the Halfway Point of the NFL Season, & MORE!

Andy Furman & Bucky Brooks open the show discussing Bucky’s trip to London and a recap of some of the good College Football games from a busy Saturday ! Andy and Bucky dive into the NBA Gambling Scandal, their personal takeaways and thoughts. Plus, new editions of Ask Bucky, and the Blame Game! 

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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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If they're good, we'll go ahead and ask him.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
All right, here we go. He's back, my guy, my partner,
the one and all. We missed you. We really did,
Bucky Brooks. How are you?

Speaker 4 (00:37):
I'm good, Andy, Hell's everything.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Oh, probably a lot better than you because you didn't
have a good trip to your team lost, and I
want to talk a little bit about that. How was
the trip? You know? I read your piece in Foxsports
dot Com. You kind of pulled back the curtain a
little bit about the trip to England last week thirty
five to seven score was not a good trip. But
you guys left on Monday, you know, for a game
on Sunday. What do you do all week? Tell me

(01:01):
about that show. I want to know, And I also
want to know when you make a trip like that,
do you get Frequent Flyer points on your own card?
Is that something you could get? I want to know
all this stuff on the trip here.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
Okay, so we do it in reverse.

Speaker 5 (01:14):
Yes, I do do that because I book my own travel,
so I do have the ability to take advantage of
the miles going from LA to London.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
So yeah, that's all on me. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:25):
The team left on Monday, got there early Tuesday. Tuesdays
normally in the league the player's day off, so they
took the day off and they had their normal.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
Schedule, normal practice schedule and those things.

Speaker 5 (01:38):
And in the past the extend this day has been
really good for the Jaguars in terms of recreating a
training camp environment. Guys are forced to spend a lot
of time together, the chemistry, the camaraderie typically coming out
of that break, meaning out of the London games, they
tend to do really well because they're really well connected.
The Rams were doing something day out before, a more

(01:59):
radical approach, which was more like they approached it I did.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
They left Friday from Baltimore.

Speaker 5 (02:06):
Because they played the Ravens the week before they stayed
in Baltimore, so they stayed on the East coast, and
then on Friday they took off to go to London
and landed early Saturday, had a little walkthrough, rested and
relaxed the whole day, and then woke up two point
thirty was kickoff time locally, and then man, they.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
Got busy on the Jaguars.

Speaker 5 (02:31):
And so that twenty four hour turn and burn might
be something that more teams use because a lot of
teams have really been foggy when it comes to making
those international trips and playing games and they can't get
their team to play at their best. The Rams may
have kind of cracked the code when it came to
just kind of going in and out, taking care of
business and getting out of there.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Tell me a little bit about the food situation and
obviously the time change, how does that affect everybody?

Speaker 5 (02:59):
I mean, like the food is different because like when
you were a pro team, like they have everything catered,
so they try and keep you on your routine. You
try not venture out of routine because if you're doing crisandine,
it's cuisine that's unfamiliar or whatever, Like and then it's
kind of risky because you don't want to do it.
But every team that travels has their own things, so

(03:20):
when they stay at the hotel, they already kind of
let them know, here are the things that we like,
this is what the menu should look like, or whatever.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
Guys will go on their own to dinners.

Speaker 5 (03:28):
And those things if they wish, but if not, there's
always something available at the hotel. As it relates to
the time, it's different from.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
The West Coast.

Speaker 5 (03:38):
It was like an eight hour time change for me,
so that's five hours if you're East Coaster. So it
just takes you a while to get used to that
because when you're up, all your people are sleeping and
vice versa, and you just have to get used to
that part of it. And in theory, you'd like to
think if you're over there for five or so days,

(03:59):
you will adjust and you kind of acclimate to the
time change. But if you never get off your normal clock,
if you're the rams and you just kind of show up,
and I mean, I think you can kind of calf
it int your way through it. You can use adrenaline
to get through it. If you're in and out, it
doesn't really make. It doesn't really make that big of
a difference. Literally, it really doesn't. You land, you have

(04:20):
to find a way to kind of force yourself to
go to sleep and then get up and go play.
But most people, I think can't adapt and do it
if they had to, if they knew ahead of time,
that's how they going to operate.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
You know, I would think this. You go in there
five plus days. These guys are packing, like, not the
overnight bag you go on to a normal trip. It's
second overnight big. You go into the town, you play
the game. Right after the game, you get on the plane,
you go back home. They're packing two three four suitcases
on these trip, aren't they. It's amazing. I mean that's
a trip.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
I mean, who's packing two three four trips?

Speaker 2 (04:53):
What two two three four suitcases for this trip? Some
of these guys are back of that would.

Speaker 5 (04:59):
Think no, I mean, and it should. I mean, if
they are, they're overpacking. I mean you're there for five days,
like I mean, like all the equipment that you get,
like when it comes to practice and all that, Like
they give you everything you could want. You need some
walking around clothes, but you're staying so far outside the city.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
There's not. It's not vacation.

Speaker 5 (05:15):
You're not doing a lot of like sight seeing in
those things, not watching like you're watching the changing underguard
at Bucket and Palace and those things.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
Like you're going to work. There may be some things
that you do.

Speaker 5 (05:27):
You staying at a golf resort, So maybe bring your
sticks and you swing it a little bit, but not much.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
I mean if you're handling business.

Speaker 5 (05:34):
Now, if you're going over there and you're distracted, yeah,
it could be an issue.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Okay, I got one last question, which it's been on
my mind for a while. I finally came and dawned
on me. I watched these games on TV, watch game
in person. You look at the sidelines. They got these
these bikes on the sidelines to keep I guess to
keep loose to the teams pack those on the road
trip and take those bikes with them or they pick
they get them from the home team.

Speaker 5 (05:58):
Oh no, you gotta pack and bring you on stuff.
The home team's not supplying anything. Yeah, the home team
is not supplying that stuff is our team. Like if
you need it for your team, then you bring it yourself,
Like like we shouldn't be supplying that.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, So that goes on the flight as well, those bikes. Huh.

Speaker 5 (06:16):
I mean maybe maybe they maybe they work it out.
I just assume, like when I see so you gotta
So you got to understand. There are two things that
happens when a team goes on a road trip.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
There's the stuff.

Speaker 5 (06:27):
That you see on the plane right where everyone goes
on the plane.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
They do that stuff right.

Speaker 5 (06:31):
The other part of it, there is a i'll just
say a U haul truck that drives from city to
city with their stuff. So if we're in let's just
say State Stateside, if we're playing the Indianapolis goals, like,
the rig would take off maybe Wednesday to get to

(06:53):
the city to make sure they're there by Friday to
unload and get everything set up and situated or whatever.
After the game, they everything back onto that truck and
that truck takes off. It may take off to the
next spot, It may take off back to Jacksonville then
to the next spot. But yeah, there's a rig that
also goes to the city that you're going because it's

(07:14):
a lot to take in NFL, tell into a new
city and those things. So yeah, so now that's stuff
that you're seeing. All of that stuff certainly isn't on
the plane. Some of that stuff is on a tractor trailer.
A you all rig that goes good?

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Now you're clear that left for me. I want to
get that straight. So we did miss you. You're back,
You're back on the seat, and here we go. Now
I want to talk about some guy that we kind
of root for all the time and I sort of scored.
I didn't get a chance to watch the entire game.
Colorado down to three and five. Now they loose fifty
three to seven to Utah. What's going on? And I
read this story about Dion the other day. Maybe you

(07:50):
can help me out here. He says, Hey, there's a
policy for his players if they need help getting up
off the field after getting injured. You're done. You're not
going back in the game. Our guys ain't soft. This
is what he said at his news conference this week.
And I guess that he's going to avoid a penalty
for his team under that UNC double a rule of
faking of uninjury. But what's going on there? That three

(08:12):
and five? How did you get klob at fifty three
seven to Utah?

Speaker 4 (08:16):
Well? One, Utah is really good. And note that the
traditionally look at the way they play.

Speaker 5 (08:21):
Their physicality and toughness overwhelms people, particularly when you play
at Utah, and uh, it just looked from the little
bit of the game, I mean by the time I
turned it on, it was already forty to zero. They had,
they had, they were having their way with him. And
sometimes those are the breaks. I mean, you know, sometimes

(08:41):
you get the bear, sometimes the bear get you. And
the bear definitely got the Buffaloes. I think for coach Fryme,
this was expected to be a bit of a step
back year given what was leaving. You lost your franchise quarterback,
you lost Heisman Trophy winner, you lost a few other
off that team. There's gonna be a bit of a

(09:03):
reset and they're trying to reset it and figure it out.
And they may have dropped a game or two that
they should have won or that they probably could have won.
But the teams that they've lost to, I mean, those
are teams that were legitimately better than them. I think
the main thing for him is can he hold the
team together amid all the noise, Because whenever his team loses,

(09:24):
there's gonna be a lot of noise around it. He
just has to make sure that he protects the team.
He keeps the team together and tell them to ignore
the noise on the outside, focus on what is going
well inside, and let's just see what the record looks
like at the end of the season.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Now you talk about noise around the team that loses,
Let's talk about your team, North Carolina. Because the only
wins they have this year against Charlotte and Richmond. Yet
yesterday they lost another heartbreak. They're two and five, they're
zero to three in the ACC. They go for a
two point conversion of lose seventeen sixteen against Virginia sixteenthrank
Virginia yesterday, and you got to feel for Bill Belichick,

(09:58):
I mean, and then it comes out and he says,
you know, we're improving, getting better. Yeah, I don't think
people want to hear that. You know, you know, a
loss is a loss if you're good, better and different.
I think they are getting a little better. But I
mean that Geo Lopez, he rolls out, he goes to
what Benjamin Hall, and Hall goes out, he reaches to
the pylon and it gets stopped real short, and that

(10:19):
was it. And they lose seventeen sixty and they loses
some Heartbreakers right now, and I feel for him. I
do feel for Bill Belichick, No.

Speaker 5 (10:26):
But I think what he's saying is very accurate. Like
obviously I'm closely following the team. The team is much
better now than they were at the beginning of the year.
The losses that they're doing right now are a lot
to you to self inflicted mistakes and miscues. In the
game yesterday, first rive, they have an opportunity to score

(10:47):
a touchdown. The kid is going in and much like
they lost the game at Kal where they were going
into the end zone and fumble, fumble it into the
end zone. Same thing happens again. They fumble it right
at the end zone, so that cost them seven. At
the end, have to have a field goal. They snap it,
get it down, they kick it, he makes it, but
there was a time I called so the second time
they kick it, he misses it down at the end

(11:10):
of the game, you just saw the two point conversion
in overtime where if the guy sticks it out just
maybe two more inches and touches the pylon, it's a
touchdown or a two point conversion to win the game.
They're just short, but they are playing better. The energy
and the effort is better, and he has a lot

(11:30):
of young people, a lot of young recruits that are
still committed to the program, so he has to kind
of grind through this year and the team in the
program will certainly be much better next year.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah, and the way they're losing, you can't blame that
on coaching. It's just carelessness. Really. I mean, I don't
think that's coaching, or you can't say he's not doing
a good job coaching. It's just like you know, you say,
if he would have reached out maybe a quarter of anage,
they'll reach out the length of a credit card, maybe
he would have got a touchdown on that, and the
fumbles things like that in the timeout, that's just not coaching.
It's just I guess, playing together. I mean, you got

(12:04):
thirty new kids on that team. You got to get
to know one another, and they just don't know each
other yet.

Speaker 5 (12:11):
Yeah, I would say like some of the newness of
the kids, but a lot of it really is just
being able to execute, like just executing what you're being
asked to do under pressure in those moments. And what
they haven't done is they haven't been great with the
execution under pressure and some of that is are the

(12:33):
growing pains of bringing so many guys, seventy new guys together,
and a lot of it really is adapting to a
new coaching style, new philosophy, new standards, new expectations, all
those other things. So there's a lot going. No one
wants to hear about excuses. They got to deliver a
better on field product. My hope and my expectation from
the jump was this was a team that will play

(12:56):
much better down the stretch, and they played in the beginning.
And the reason why is it just takes a while
for a team to connect and to jail and to
understand what they're being asked to do and how they're
being asked to do it.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
I felt like, and I still feel.

Speaker 5 (13:10):
Like, after watching the Virginia game, their best football is ahead,
and I would expect them to play like that last
four games on the schedule.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
I expect them to play pretty well.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
You know, I will say this, you know, looking at
the college football landscape right now, I think I think
it's maybe the most balanced college season in a long
long time, and I think it's open to anybody. I mean,
in the past, you'd say it was Alabama, maybe Georgia
always dominating college football. That's not the case right now.
I think it's it's wide open. And I would even
go to as far as to say this Ohio State's

(13:42):
probably head and shoulders above the rest. But I still
would think that Indiana's got a chance to win it
all too. And they way they showed them muscly yestorday
they rolled over Ucla. I knew they'd win. I thought
they better than Ucla. Their defense is great, but they
win fifty six to six. They just humiliated Ucla.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
Yeah, I mean, in the end, is the real deal.

Speaker 5 (14:03):
And Kirk Signetti is done a really good job of
putting things together, continue to have this team rolling. They
have a lot of confidence despite being what I would
say upstarts, and they have a focus about them. And
I go back to the Oregon game having watched them,
it wasn't just a that players are really good. It's
the way they manage the game, the way they coach

(14:24):
and make adjustments and really stay one step ahead of
the curve man. That's all Kurt Signetti and his staff And.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
Because it's.

Speaker 5 (14:33):
Yeah, yeah, and there's so much continuity because both of
his coordinators have been with him like every step of
the way.

Speaker 4 (14:40):
They know each other.

Speaker 5 (14:41):
And that is one of the things that's underestimated in
college sports is being able to keep a staff together
for a long time.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
When you're able to keep a.

Speaker 5 (14:49):
Staff together for a long time, it eliminates the newness
of always having to teach someone a this is how
we do things here. It eliminates some of the questions
when you have new co just coming in, well, why
are we doing it this way?

Speaker 4 (15:02):
We could do it the other way.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
When you have people that have been around you and
they know what the program is and they've sampled success
at other places, it allows you to let's just get
to this work. You know it works, Let's get to it.
And that's what they've been able to do.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
You know, you look at the leaders in the conferences
right now, I said the Big Ten is going to
be Ohio State SEC, Texas A and M. Are you kidding?
They're eight no, the first time since nineteen ninety two,
and they rolled over LSU. So the story right now
is not that A and M is eight and zer
they're probably going to win that conference forty nine to
twenty five. Is to win. The story right now is
I'm reading it all over the place this morning. You know,

(15:37):
the buyout for coach Brian Kelly at LSU. He's going
to be in there. It's going to be a race
between Brian Kelly getting the acts at LSU or Luke
Fickel at Wisconsin and Wisconsin. Yesterday, I was watching part
of that game. They finally scored a touchdown, the first score,
first points that had in the last twelve quarters. I mean,
I don't know how that happens, you know, all of

(15:58):
a sudden, now Luke Fikel has become a coach. I
laugh at that because he dominated when he was at Cincinnati.
He was an interim coach at Ohio State, did not
farewell there. I think it was like five hundred, like
four and four. But now he's having a real tough
time in Wisconsin.

Speaker 5 (16:14):
Yeah, he is having a real tough time in Wisconsin.
And you wonder why or how it's gotten that way.
I would say this, Luke Fickel was very ambitious when
he took the Wisconsin's job because he elected the deviate
away from the brand that has been synonymous with Wisconsin
football since Barry Alvarez brought it back to prominence. Wisconsin
has always been a rough and tumble, physical football team

(16:36):
that ran the ball, that ran the ball with anybody
and everybody because they always had a dominant offensive line.
Filkel came in wanting to throw the ball around for
whatever reason, even though he didn't do it like that
at Cincinnati, he felt like they needed to throw it around.
And I will say Wisconsin can never outspread or out

(16:57):
finesse the Michigan's, the Penn States, iiO States, and some
of the other top teams in that league. And what
they've done is the things that made them great they've
gone away from. And that's what it is. They are
trying to be something that their program cannot be because
they don't have the personnel to play that way. And

(17:18):
until they get back to playing the way that its
traditionally worked for that team, for that program, they are
always language at the bottom of the Big Ten.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Well, he won't be there next year, so there's no
problem about that. You know, you look at Wisconsin and
they were a power. Then all of a sudden, you
look and alumni look at this all the time. That's
why there's so much pressure on these guys to win.
Vanderbilt top ten ranking in the AP Pole first time
since nineteen forty seven Vanderbilt. I've always left at Vanderbilt

(17:48):
being in the SEC. I said they probably should be
in the IVY League. Now they're competitive. They win seventeen
ten yesterday over seventeenth like Missouri. I don't get the turner.
I don't understand how that happens. I mean, Vanderbilt was
a doormat in the SEC. How could they be better
than Kentucky? Think about that? I mean, how did an event?

Speaker 4 (18:06):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (18:07):
The coach? How did he attract those players? And you
got to believe is a pretty high standard academically to
get into Vanderbilt. Come on, how they do it?

Speaker 4 (18:16):
A few different things happened to Vanderbilt.

Speaker 5 (18:18):
Warn Clark Lee is a grad, so he understands the
ins and outs of the university. He knows what the
challenges are and how to attack those challenges because he
lived at firsthand. Secondly, the general manager, Barton Simmons is
a guy who spent man twenty years on the beat
as a recruiting analyst, meaning he worked for twenty four

(18:39):
seven sports. He was ranking players, so he has an
eye for talent, understands talent, not only the high school ranks,
but now the porter ranks.

Speaker 4 (18:47):
He is their general manager. He knows it.

Speaker 5 (18:49):
They've been able to put together a plan where they
know exactly how they want to build the team, what
kind of guys they want to build the team.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
Do they want to build it with some.

Speaker 5 (18:57):
High school players, yes, but a lot of transfers. Then
they got complete buy in from the admissions office in
the university to allow some of these transfers that maybe
normally wouldn't be able to get in to get into
their school. And I'm sure they set high academic standards
for some of them, but probably more lenient than the
regular student population, so they could get some of those

(19:18):
players in. And then when you put it all together
with a coach who really builds team chemistry, camaraderie and
those things, you have success. And then Diego Pavia coming
on board as a transfer certainly helped because his swag
is infectious. His confidence, his leadership, his competitiveness, all those
things he rates at a high level. And that has

(19:40):
been one of the biggest things that Vanderbilt turned this around.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, and another academically strong school that's undefeated, Georgia Tech
ACC eight tozer. They went big yesterday and maybe their
quarterbacks up for the Heisman. Haynes King. I mean he
could be a possible Heisman Trophy winner.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
I mean he's a really good player.

Speaker 5 (19:59):
And once again in another alum, Brett Key, who played
full back for the Jackets in the nineties, who understands
the university. You have to know the university in my
mind to be able to be successful trying to do it,
especially at those places.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
Because you understand the challenges. You don't make excuses because
you lived.

Speaker 5 (20:19):
And you know how hard it is to play and
do all the academic stuff, so you don't give your
players a break on that. Uh, he's been able to
do that. Georgia Tech very successfully. And there, man, they're
legit the physical football team to understands how to win.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
And last but not least, I'll tell you who's legit.
University of Cincinnati beating Bailey as they they're undefeated, they
got a shot going to the playloffs. They really do
in the Big Twelve.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
Yes, had of fuel.

Speaker 5 (20:43):
You know who I feel like is always under fire
because of Cincinnati. You guys have such high standards. But
I feel like he's found his way up there. They
are undefeated, they go and beat a good Baylor team. Uh,
they're sitting perfectly in their in their conference. And look
he's an offensive astermodel wizard. They play a fun, exciting
Brandon ball and I can see why so many young

(21:05):
people want to join that program.

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All right, let's do this. We gottayesk fucking about ten
twelve minutes from now. But NBA, the players and coaches
are embroiled in two separate gambling controversies detailed by the FBI.
All right, you heard about this, Bucket Brooks. What was

(23:17):
your reaction when you heard this? You're an athlete, you
played the game, you were in the National Football League?
Could it happened there? And tell me about this because
the report I heard this morning in the New York
Post was that it was not an NBA play with
the poker situation. It was an NFL player. So we'll
see what happens now.

Speaker 5 (23:35):
Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of speculation about all
of it, and without going through the indictments and seeing
out the paperwork, what I tell you is it appears
that these are high stakes pokers.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
Two things going on at once. One you have on
the court.

Speaker 5 (23:49):
You have Tier Rosier and others either influencing games with
their own abilities or providing inside information. Tier Rosier lead
telling people to bet on the unders doesn't play well
appears to I guess point shape would be the best
way to describe how people have painted his involvement and

(24:10):
at Damon Jones giving insider information about injuries. That's why
if you notice, not only at the pro level, but
the collegiate level, everyone is having to talk about injuries
and who's up, who's down, who's playing, who's not playing,
because that influences the lines and the way the money goes.
The part that is salacious is right now, the high

(24:31):
stakes poker games, right that they say that Chauncey Billings
was a big part of bring some buddies, some friends,
some people that had a lot of money, maybe even
cloud chasers, and kind of lure them into a situation
where it's rigged. You know, the blackjack, I mean, the
poker tables are rigged. There's technology reportedly and a bunch

(24:54):
of other stuff that allowed.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
The house to always be on top. Now, if that happened, that.

Speaker 5 (25:01):
Is I mean, it's harbored on so many different fronts
because you have friends bringing friends in and the friends
unknowingly or stepping into a situation where they could.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
Be the victims. That's not cool.

Speaker 5 (25:12):
You also are I mean doing something that look I
understand like the competitive nature of athletes, having been one,
having watched what goes on in the pros, and how
the same thing that makes them great on the field
can also undo a lot of what they do in
their personal lives. And this is a situation where it

(25:33):
is something that a lot of players will come through,
not all of them will be implicated, but man, there's
nothing that players love more, that we love more than
being able to get into a competitive environment and compete.
And unfortunately, in this situation, the poker game is a
competitive situation, but it appear to be loaded for the house,

(25:54):
who also allegedly has some mob tizes.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Amazing, it really is not for those the uninformed that
we talked about. A prop bet, Now, a prop bet
is a type of bait, a wet that a bet
that allows gamers to bet on whether to play will
exceed perhaps a certain statistical number, such as maybe whether
the play will finish over or under a certain total points, rebounds,
or assist. I'm going to go back to this Terry
Rozier thing and we'll get to the FBI in a second.

(26:18):
There was a game there was a question between the
Hornets and the New Orleans Pelicans back on March twenty third,
twenty twenty three. Terry Rozier played first nine minutes of
that game. He did not return. He said he had
a foot issue, but he didn't play again the rest
of the season. Charlotte had eight games remaining, was not
in the playoffs of contention at all, so it didn't
seem really unusual that Rosier was shut down for the

(26:39):
season finale. Okay, In that game that he played and
he left, he finished with five points, four rebounds, and
two assists in the first period, and there was a
pretty productive quarter, but well below as usual total output.
And there were posts online from March twenty third, twenty
twenty three that showed that some bet is were furious
with sports books that night when it became evident that

(27:01):
Rosier was not going to return to the Charlotte New
Orleans game after the first quarter, with many turning to
social media they said that something quote shady had gone
on regarding the prop bets involving his stats for that night.
All right, so we know about that. But Cash Bttel
from the FBI had a big statement on Thursday, and
let's hear what the FBI had to say about this.

Speaker 8 (27:22):
Individuals such as Chauncey Billups, Damon Jones, and Terry Rozier
were taken into custody today former current NBA players and coaches.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
What you don't know is that.

Speaker 8 (27:32):
This is an illegal gambling operation and sports rigging operation
that spanned the course of years. The FBI led a
coordinated takedown across eleven states to arrest over thirty individuals
today responsible for this case, which is very much ongoing.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
The worst part of this situation is since the situation
back in twenty twenty three, the NBA had them some
sort of a case study on Terry Rozier and they
basically came out and said, we found nothing. Obviously they
found nothing because they were afraid of the backlash of this.
And now I would tell you this does not bear
well for an NBA. It looks terrible. I mean, we've

(28:10):
always said that sometimes a misfree throw and they're in
past something like that, it's going to leave people scratching
their head and saying, maybe maybe it's maybe it's not right,
maybe nothing's kosher here. But now with this situation, it
really hurts the league and the credibility at any big time.

Speaker 4 (28:30):
A little bit.

Speaker 5 (28:30):
I mean, I think in anything, we won't do it,
but I would ask for patients and let the cases
play out. Everything doesn't always seem as it appears at
first glance, and this is an investigation. In our country,
you're presumed innocent until proving guilty jury of your peers.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
So we need to let this play out.

Speaker 5 (28:53):
Obviously, the FBI is going to put all of the
information that they have out because they're trying to influence
the potential jurors will be on their jury.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
So you make it appear that there's.

Speaker 5 (29:03):
This insurmountable evidence against the parties involved, and it may be,
but I think we have to just be careful.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
About jumping to conclusions and saying that.

Speaker 5 (29:13):
Oh my gosh, the league is this now. For the league,
it certainly is egg a little egg on their face
when it comes to dealing with this and understanding, and
so they need to be more on it when it
comes to ensuring that the integrity of the game is protected.
But this affects the individual players far more than the
league itself, because there's not a league WHI scan the

(29:35):
where teams are fixing games and those things as a player,
well a couple of players Joanty Border last year and
then this year with Rosier Damon Jones. Stuff seems a
little different where players deliberately taking dives and giving invention
and really are mixed up in bad stuff. I don't
think the league will see anything happen to it. There'll

(29:58):
be some noise around it, but nothing that's gonna be
detrimental to the bottom line.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Yeah, but I want to know how the league did
an investigation Terry Rozier and found nothing, and the FBI
did so Let's say ask David st David Stone, excuse
me to make he rest in peace. Let's say ask
Adam Silver to commission what happened? Go ahead, Adam.

Speaker 9 (30:14):
So what happened was because bets were placed through legalized,
legal betting companies, they picked up aberrational behavior around a
particular game in March of twenty three, and so that
was brought to our attention by the regulators and the
betting companies. We then looked into that situation.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Had turned about it, and while there.

Speaker 9 (30:39):
Was that aberrational betting, we frankly couldn't find anything.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
Terry at the time cooperated.

Speaker 9 (30:46):
He gave the League office his phone, he sat down
for an interview, and we ultimately concluded that there was
insufficient evidence.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Amazing. I mean, it doesn't bode well for Adam Silver.
I don't think it makes the NBA looked good. I
mean they didn't find anything in the FBI did, and
it certainly looks like a covered that to me looks
worse than the actual act of throwing the games, because
if you knew something was going on the FBI did,
how come the NBA did well. Maybe the NBA should

(31:17):
have done it in conjunction with the FBI. I don't know.
It just didn't look good for Adam Silver there. It
really did not.

Speaker 4 (31:25):
No, it didn't.

Speaker 5 (31:26):
But once again, I'll say, let's play this out. How
do we know that the NBA is not right about
their findings. We're assuming that the FBI is always correct.
And I would say that I don't know. It used
to be lockstock and Barrel that if the FBI put
charges on you, they were going to win at an eighty.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
Percent conviction rate.

Speaker 5 (31:45):
It's not the same because they put a lot of
charges on a lot of different people, particularly under Gosh
Batal and new administration, where it's a different emphasis and
focus in those things.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
So let's let this play out.

Speaker 5 (31:58):
I understand the hot topic nature, the hot take nature
of all of this. Yeah, like, you don't want your players,
current or former, involved in these type allegations. But if
you've investigated some of it on your own, you tend
to know what's real and what's not. And so we
just shiveredserve judgment before jumping all in on one side
of the topic.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
He help me out here because the other night, the
Celtics who play in the Knicks in Madison Square Garden
and Jalen Brown was talking to the media and he
said the NBA is not doing enough to protect players
some issues surrounding sports betting. What does he mean by that?
I mean you should have self control. What does the
NBA have to do to control you about wagering.

Speaker 5 (32:39):
No, it's not about them controlling themselves about waging. Is
having all these degenerates in your DMS fussing at you
because they made a wager on the game and you
did something that impacted the game positively or negatively, catching passes,
not catching past the scoring points or whatever. You have
all these people that can get close to you before

(33:02):
and it's one of the things about social media, like
it's the double edged sword, right. It's good that people
have more access to you, but it's also bad that
people have more access to you. Before they couldn't get
to the player, they couldn't confront or talk or whatever.
But the phones and all the different social media platforms
it made it very very easy for them to weigh
in on what they'd think. And I get it. I

(33:25):
get it after our show about people talking about what
you sound like this, and you should say this, and
like all this other stuff, and if you're not wired
the right way, the opinions of others can really impact
how you feel about yourself. And with the pressure that
some of the sports betters can put on these players
verbally because you say, why don't you just block them?

(33:47):
Or you need it because some people you read it, man,
and it still sits in your belly as you're processing it.
So that's what Jaalen Brown is referring to, just the
amount of information that people have when you how they
share it.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
I hear it. Now, you clear that, But let me
leave you with this the NC double A and I've
read this. They're looking to give athletes permission to wager
on pro sports. Really, are you kidding? We're going to
take the nil money and bet on the pro sports. Now,
that's the last thing you want these kids to do.
I don't get it. I'm saying wagering. Is it healthy?

(34:21):
Is it helping? Is it good? Has it been? Certainly
brings a lot of revenue into the NBA, NFL, whatever
it may be, And that's why these these major league
leagues have done that, Major League Baseball as well. But
I think the end result right now, we're seeing the
problems out there, is creating problem and we don't need more.
I think they're going to keep it away from the
college kids.

Speaker 4 (34:40):
I would agree. I don't think that you should. But
here's where it gets tricky.

Speaker 5 (34:45):
Because kids grew up playing fantasy football with their friends
and let's just throw out Yahoo, right, So they had
a digital platform where they did it, they got used
to it, they get rewarded for having a team that
had the most points, and so it can become very
easy to blur the lines when it comes to betting
on the game and playing daily fantasy. That's a huge
part of what they grew up in. As much as

(35:07):
I want to say we should ban it, these kids
that's all they know. Like their hustle has always been
to play the numbers in to rig games and to
do those things. Now you have to move me on.
So it's Look, it's just the way of the world
is the way things have shifted. I wouldn't want to
see it. I don't condone it, but I understand why
so many kids are drawn to it.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Well said, I hear what you're saying. He's Bucky Brooks.
I'm Andy Firman. We're live from the Fox Bets Radio
studios and he's back, and so are we with our questions.
Why ask Bucky is next? All right? Ass Bucky? Right
around the band, there's Bucky. That's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Freman,
and we are Fox Football Sunday and Foxbot's ready and
we're live for the Fox Spots Radio studios. It's about
maybe eleven minutes before the top of the out, but

(35:49):
it is time right now for as Bucky. Brianna, are
you ready for this?

Speaker 3 (35:54):
I am so ready. Yeah, Okay, okay, I'll start. Do
we just need to accept, Bucky that the Vikings are
a transitional year after they fell to the Chargers on
Thursday Night Football.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
Yeah, I mean, they're in a tough year.

Speaker 5 (36:06):
I book, I wouldn't say it's it's all the way
over because we're at the midpoint of the season and
people can get hot down the stretch, but it doesn't
look good. They've had to deal without playing without JJ McCarthy.
Carson Wentz certainly has not been the answer. And if
you don't have your franchise quarterback in this league, you're done.
So yeah, it's a bit of a transition year for
the Vikings.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
You know, you did such a great question there, Brad,
Why are you do another one? You really did?

Speaker 3 (36:29):
Do't have to do that second one right there.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
If you want to do a second question, you can.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
Okay, the worst team in the NFL, Bucky, is it
the Saints? Is it the Jets? Who do you think?
And why?

Speaker 4 (36:43):
Well, the Saints seven wins, so it has to be
the Jets. I mean, Jets are one and seven. Now.

Speaker 5 (36:49):
The thing about that's funny about the Jets is there
are four games that where they've been really really close,
where they could win. They just haven't been able to
get it done. And I think New York is kind
of I want to say, over blown. Some of the
Jets issues they just have not been able to win
the close games, and the trick will be can Aaron
Glenn stay the course because you watch Dan Campbell go

(37:09):
through some similar three and thirteen season his first year
before kind of finding his way the second year at
a seven and one and then they really turned it
all the way around. Does Aaron Glenn have the patients?
Do the team have the patients to go through what
you have to go through sometimes to make a better product.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Yeah, I don't think it's Glenn. I think it's what Johnson,
the owner. Does he have the patients? I mean, obviously
it's such at the top, and I don't think he's
much of a leader because that team is in poor
shape and it has been for years.

Speaker 5 (37:41):
Yeah, it does start at the top, and their culture
has been bad because they've had so many much change
and turn more and normally the culture starts from a
conversation with ownership on what are the non negotiables, what
are the things that you feel strongly about. Let's make
sure we bring players in that don't have any of
those issues or transgressions on their resume, and then it's

(38:02):
about working hard and finding a way to take the
personnel that you have and elevate it. And right now
they have too many different issues, with too many different
parts of building a winning culture to even come close
to getting the results that they want.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
No doubt. All Right, the Cleveland Browns beat the Miami
Dolphins thirty one to six last week. Now, could those
fins be lying down to see Mike McDaniel, that coach
get the acts?

Speaker 4 (38:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (38:27):
I don't think they're deliberately lying down, But when you
get discouraged, different things happen. The first time you have
a bad play goal against, you overreact, act, you react
emotionally as opposed to using logic in those things.

Speaker 4 (38:41):
And this is where they're at.

Speaker 5 (38:43):
They just have to figure out how to get back
on track, how to continue to believe in the plan
and the process and know that they can be a
good team if they do these things.

Speaker 4 (38:51):
Rights.

Speaker 5 (38:51):
Some of that is on the players, but a lot
of his own, Mike McDaniel and how he presents.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
It to the team.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
All Right. Wide receiver Aja Brown is out for the
Philadelphia Eagles today. How big a deal is this? And
today they play the Giants. Maybe it's not that big
of a deal.

Speaker 5 (39:06):
Oh, it's a big deal because the Giants beat them
early in the year. It's a big deal because what
it does is it takes away one perimeter playmaker from
the Eagles and allows the Giants to kind of redirect
their focus. It's a bigger deal because it now makes
Saquon's Barkley's production very critical to their success because they've
been able to get away with him putting up modest numbers.

(39:27):
Now he has to go back to being Saquon the
monster that we saw last year. We'll see if they
can overcome it. But it's not easy playing without some
of your people, no.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
Doubt about that. Okay, Now, why did the FBI break
that NBA gambling story and opening week of the league?
And really we talked about the previous investigation with Billipson Rozier.
They were clear of no wrongdoings. But why do they
break that news on an opening week?

Speaker 5 (39:54):
I mean because they knew exactly what it would do,
like create a kind of buzz and headlines.

Speaker 4 (39:58):
In those things, you have to be able to be.

Speaker 5 (40:02):
Firm, stand firmed in, you know, amid the chaos, and
say this is what's best for the team, this is
what we're doing, this is how it's going down for
the NBA. It's the same thing. The product is the product.
A lot of people love our product. And even though
this scandal is looming in the background, we're gonna focus
on the on the court product. If they do that,
they can get through it.

Speaker 4 (40:19):
Right.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
And do you think the Jets will ever win a game?
Will they go own sixteen? Which is hard to go
own sixteen or sixteen, seventeen, seventeen and oho.

Speaker 4 (40:28):
Oh, they'll win a game. They'll eventually win a game.
They may win three games.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
There we go. Okay, all right, question is who is
number one of the class. We'll have that and so
much more aware. Right here are a Fox Football Sunday,
next a Fox.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
Don't listen no Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
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you doing. You still got some jet lag?

Speaker 6 (41:23):
No?

Speaker 4 (41:23):
No, no, I was over there like in and out.
I'm ready. I'm ready. I was used to it.

Speaker 5 (41:28):
Had a good night when I got back on Monday night.
By Tuesday Wednesday, really.

Speaker 4 (41:33):
I was ready. So it's all good.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
How would the people, how'd they treat you there in
good old jolly London.

Speaker 4 (41:40):
It's always great. I mean it's always great. I love
it over there, like it's nice spot. It's because the
English speaking country is not as much of a transition
obviously when you go over when it comes to like
being out and about learning how to get around and
those things. So I had terrific don And they take
our money too.

Speaker 5 (41:58):
They will, but like you know, they operate on the
pound system, and so you have to do a little
bit of the conversion, so it may cost you a
little more dependent on the way that the US dollar.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
All right, I'm going to go on back state side
now for a second was you know, I want to
just touch on college football for a little bit, a
little bit more. Okay, because we mentioned in the in
the first segment last hour, you know how it's wide open,
and maybe it's not. I think it is. I think
that is the most wide open college football season in
a long, long time. Ohio State, yes, head and shoulders above.
But Indiana I think has a shot. But the biggest

(42:29):
surprises in college football, and see if you agree, I'm
going to say that Texas A and M they're undefeated,
Georgia Tech the same thing, they're undefeated, Vanderbilt, Brigham Young. Okay,
I mean, did you agree with those? I think those
are the ones in my mind that are the most
the most I guess unusual to so to speak, and
biggest surprises thus foreign college football.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
I don't hear them. I don't hear them.

Speaker 5 (42:52):
Okay, I lost you for a minutes. No, no, I
lost you for a minute. Yeah, they are some of
the biggest surprises. I would say, like to me, the
thing that stands out, because you were asking me about
the team that is a big surprise college football is
wide open. I would say Vanderbilt is probably the biggest
because of their stained success. They gave us a taste
of it last year, but man, they've come full circle.
I mean, like come out in full forest to be

(43:12):
a top ten team. Indiana sustaining their success to me
is a little bit of a surprise. A team that
has been surprising up until yesterday had been South Florida.

Speaker 4 (43:21):
But they lose to Memphis. But they have been a surprise.

Speaker 5 (43:24):
And I think the parody just the parody amongst college football,
the way nil and the money has been spread around.
Players are no longer just going to places to stay
and be the backup when they have an opportunity to
be a star or playing a storing role somewhere else.
That has changed the landscape has made it better in
my estimation in terms of the parody, worse in terms
of trying to keep it with all the players with

(43:45):
the movement.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
Okay, what kind of pressure to put on coaches that
are out winning? For example, you mentioned this early on
that Wisconsin, a tremendous school with great tradition in football, struggling.
They finally scored a touchdown your state of first score
that had in the last twelve quarter in their loss yesterday,
And I'm sure the athletic throught through our lums, just
saying to themselves, well maybe in public as well, just saying,

(44:07):
how could a school like Vanderbilt be so successful and
a power like we once wore a struggling what's happening here?
Got to put pressure on the coach?

Speaker 4 (44:17):
Yeah, it does put a lot of pressure. I'll just
say this.

Speaker 5 (44:20):
If James or anything can get fired in the middle
of the season after playing in the College Football Playoff
and being in the semi finals, then all bets are
off when it comes to tenure in those things because
of what have you done for me lately? Landscape, if
you're not winning, you're going to be fired, regardless of
the buyout, because everyone expects and thinks to their team

(44:42):
is entitled to national championship participation, and that's not true.

Speaker 4 (44:48):
That's not the case, but that's where we're at. And
I'm just.

Speaker 5 (44:54):
I just can't wait to see how all these jobs
are going to play out, because everyone is not going
to be able to get someone who is university celebrated
as an upgrade over the previous person. So with these
big jobs that are out there, I just can't wait
to see how they feel it because there are more
seats than names.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
Right now.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
I would think that Luke fickles the very hot seat.
Brian Kelly at LSU, he's next. And I'll say this,
I think that we discussed this earlier this year, and
I kind of come over to your side a little
bit because I was upset about why would you fire
a coach in mid season? I think the portal has
a lot to do with that, because if you get
rid of a coach now, there might be a possibility

(45:36):
a kid on your team who's very valuable may not
enter the portal. But because you never liked that coach,
if you keep the coach till the end, he'll get
into the portal and you lose them. So I think
that's the key right there, don't you think. And that
could be the reason why they're firing coaches early on
and in mid season.

Speaker 4 (45:52):
Yeah, but that's not a reason to do it.

Speaker 5 (45:54):
Like what you have to do is because right now
you're given all the power to the players, and I
think people have overblown because they've made it like you
got to get in the porter, you have to do this,
you have to do that. I'm just telling you, like that,
it's fleeting. There are not many people that can live
in the porter because you can't build a team. At
the end of the day, you have to build a team,
and the team is what ultimately wins championships. There's not
one individual player that can carry your team to the title.

(46:17):
And you have to be consistent with how you're handling
everything with the players, because the players are always watching
who you pay, how you pay them, why you're paying
them matters.

Speaker 4 (46:30):
And how do you handle the guys that are.

Speaker 5 (46:31):
Not the so called stars, the lesser guys, the guys
that are maybe the minimum wage earners in that locker room.
Do you take care of them because they do a
lot of the dirty work, a lot of they heavy lifting.
So you got to make sure that you just don't
have a system that just rewards the stars, and you
don't pay everybody else because those other people are look
around world. Ain't no need for me to block. He's

(46:53):
getting all the money, so why would I go out?
So there's a lot to manage when money comes into
the locker room in terms of still getting the team
to buy into the core principles.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
Okay, you're talking about pay. Now, here's a question that's
been on my mind for a while. I know you
have the answer. Say you're an outstanding player at a
smaller school, maybe the MAC Conference, which is not that small,
but it's a smaller than the bigger schools. You know
what I'm saying. It's not SEC, it's not Big ten,
Big twelve. So you go to school, you're Eastern Michigan,
you're a Toledo, you're an outstanding quarterback. Obviously, I don't

(47:25):
think they're getting a lot of money, if any at
ault right, I don't think those guys are getting paid.
Are they at a quarterback of Eastern Michigan or Toledo?
So they're gonna want to go in the portal? Is
that correct? I mean, I don't know, I would think.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
I mean there's something to that.

Speaker 5 (47:39):
Like some people believe that you got to go take
a step up in competition to prove to the scouts
that I could play there. Others like Quinna and Mitchell,
who is currently playing with the Phildelphia Eagles and might
be the best quarterback in football, he stayed at Toledo
his old time. He rebuffed those overches and now I'm
lord to the soil, to my team, to my university.

(47:59):
And that is a good thing. I'll say this because
I had this conversation throughout the week. If you're a
player who's a decorated player, but you go to three
or four different schools than your tenure. When it's time
to transition from ball to civilian.

Speaker 4 (48:16):
Life and you need jobs, you need.

Speaker 5 (48:18):
Resources and references in those things, which are the people
from those three jobs do you reach out to? Because
you're not to distinguish a lum from anyone, and so
some of that has been lost. I still believe that
young people would be better served to grind through some
of the adversity that may be ahead because they're not playing.

(48:38):
If you're not playing, you need to ask yourself why
am I not playing? Is the person in front of
me better? What can I do different? How can I
earn their trust and respect in those things? Those are
internal things and you have to be willing to do that.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Olly, let's go back to this situation. You're a star player,
Toledo star quarterback. Obviously you're a Toledo because maybe your
skill set was not good enough to play at Ohio
State or Georgia Alabama. Right, so but he thinks he
can he goes into portal. I mean if he couldn't
play for those schools coming out of high school, why
would you go in the portal and thinge. You could
go play for those schools now and the coaches would

(49:11):
have the same fillip process, wouldn't.

Speaker 5 (49:13):
They Actually, no, because they've seen him time on task development.
They look different because, look, they finally had a chance
to play, because so much of what you're doing, you're
guessing when they're coming from high school, you're projecting that
they'll be able to play, but you won't know until
they get to that level. Well, by playing at a
lower level and dominating at that level, you can see, Okay,

(49:35):
his game does translate well to the pro. So yes,
we should take a chance on and we should make
a move to make sure that he's available for us.

Speaker 4 (49:43):
Yeah. So yeah, like being able to see people play,
that's everything.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
Well, it's funny because when Kurt Signidty went to Indiana
from James Madison, he took a boatload of kids from
James Madison, and obviously James Madison's not in the same
level as the conference that Indiana plays in, and they're
doing quite well right now.

Speaker 5 (50:01):
Yeah, because it looks it matters less about what level
they are how many stars they have in more about
do they notice system? Are they bought in? Are they connected?
Is the chemistry real and sustainable? Because it's all right,
they'll figure it out. You can always figure out what
good character folks news that are right by the program.
It's the ones that pout and mope and don't do

(50:22):
all the right things. Those are the ones that you
eventually have to get rid of.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
All right, I hear what you say. Now there's talk
about heat. There's a little bit of heat in New
York school University of North Carolina with the football program
and their coach. But we'll talk about that at some
other time. But you did find a bright spot this
week in your NFL dot Com column when you talk
about Drake May. The twenty twenty four NFL draft class,
it was Jaden Daniels or Drake May. And all of
a sudden, now Drake May out of North Carolina has

(50:48):
kind of captivated, as you say, captivated the football world
a tremendous start, and the stats right now round one,
number three pick in twenty twenty four at least the
NFL and completion rate also in so many other categories.
I mean, how did this happen is the coaching staff.
I mean, all of a sudden, now Drake May, his

(51:09):
head and shoulder is really over Jaydeon Davis. Obviously, I'll
give Days a little bit of a pass because it's
a lot of injuries in that ball club.

Speaker 5 (51:16):
Yeah, I would say Drake May and Josh McDaniels, Mike Rabel, system, scheme,
coaching staff, all of it works. And Drake May was
always regarded as the prototype, right like you look at
his height, you look at his side, you look at
the athleticism, the passing prowess, all those things that he's
played it at North Carolina. You fell in love with

(51:38):
him because he had the prototypical things that lead to
success as a franchise quarterback. The problem was he was
madly inconsistent at North Carolina, and I was probably too
close to it, which is why my tarho colored glasses
probably gotten away because you want so much more from
him when you see the talent. But he didn't play
well his final season, and that and open the door

(52:01):
for Jaden Daniels and even to a degree Kayla Williams
to rank ahead of him.

Speaker 4 (52:06):
Now after the first year. That was solid, not quite
what other guys have.

Speaker 5 (52:10):
He's clearly in that conversation as the one player because
he can throw it, he can run, he has confidence,
he's efficient, he has some swag and some dog to him,
so he dominates too many situations when he has to
come through. He's a real deal. And I say that
he's the real deal while also maintaining Daniels is the
real deal too. It's stylistically, what do you want Jayden

(52:32):
Daniels to me? Is the best two way dual threat
quarterback that ever entered the league. Given his accomplishments and
success at the collegiate level before he goes to the pros,
no one has been able to do it like that
as a dual threat, but he was able to. And
you just look at those two quarterbacks and what they've done.

Speaker 4 (52:51):
You love them.

Speaker 5 (52:52):
But right now, Drake May has to rank ahead of
him because he is on fire, and he's been on
fire since the jump this season.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
Okay, I'm going to ask you a question, and you
may defer, you may not want to answer, but I
got to know this question because you're on the inside,
you hang with the coaches, you work for an NFL team.
All Right, I'm looking at the New England Patriots. Right now,
there's a real good chance they're going to be in
the playoffs, which is tremendous. Mike Rabel gets it done.
He's a tough, no nonsense kind of guy. He's a

(53:22):
little bit like Dan Campbell, kind of that kind of
a personality. I'm not saying players are afraid of him,
but he commands respect. And they're turning it around, no
doubt about that. You've seen this before, coaches that get canned,
that can't win, and a new guy comes in and
that guy turns it around. The coach that got fired,
if you've talked to them, seen them, or heard them

(53:43):
in conversation, do they in fact hope that when they're
replaced the team doesn't do any better than when they
were there, because it makes them look worse. It does.
I mean, you have to mention names, but I'd like
to know there's got to be coaches saying, Okay, you
fired me, let's see what this guy could do. He's
not going to do any better than me, and all
of a sudden, Bravell did. It's tough. I know it's

(54:05):
a tough situation, but we'll see it.

Speaker 4 (54:07):
Is a tough situation.

Speaker 5 (54:09):
And when I just look at all of these things,
I think you have to just kind of like figure
out where to put the focus at and where to
move on. I hate that the first part of your
question get cut out because my thing is operating.

Speaker 4 (54:23):
So ask the question again, Andy.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Okay, you have a coach who comes in and turns
things around, which Rabel's doing in New England looks like
they're going to be a playoff team. And the guy
that he replaced does that guy and you may have
seen this in the past or heard rumors or talk
to people, the guy he replaced, does he hope that
the new guy coming in there has about the same

(54:47):
amount of lack of success that he does, because it
makes him look bad. He roots against you.

Speaker 5 (54:52):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, I think it's anybody who
has had to deal with an X, Like do you
want your ex to have success? Do you want him
or heard it have of like success after that relationship,
Like it depends on how you're wired and if you
truly love the franchise and love the organization and want
the best for it. Yeah, you're like, Okay, Yeah, the
guy I couldn't get it done, But the next guy

(55:13):
I hope he succeeds. Most of us are not built
like that, so there's some bitterness to it, but it's
kind of hard to move past situations if you're better
on the inside. And I think what you should do
as a former coach, So if I'm Robert Salad in
San Francisco and I'm looking back at the Jets, you
can snicker and laugh and be like, look, man, it
wasn't all me.

Speaker 4 (55:32):
But what can I learn.

Speaker 5 (55:33):
From that previous situation, that previous relationship that can help
me be better going forward. I think the fire coach
has to do a lot of self reflection to make
sure that he's a better version of himself the next
opportunity that he may get as a head coach.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
Well, we've seen it firsthand because as much as I
love Bill Belichick, I mean, obviously he's a little bit
to the Patriots because he remember he said recently he
won't let Patriots scouts scout North Carolina.

Speaker 4 (55:59):
Right.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
That tells you right there.

Speaker 4 (56:02):
Yeah, that does tell you right there.

Speaker 5 (56:04):
But I would say that you know, not surprisingly, but
at some point, man, you got to let that go
because the only person that you hurt when you hold
all that in is you and so you can acknowledge
that you didn't like it, you can acknowledge that it
wasn't deserved.

Speaker 4 (56:19):
But it happened.

Speaker 5 (56:21):
And now that has happened, how can you move forward
and get better from that situation? What can you learn
from it to be better? But yeah, it hurts, like
you're a human, Like I had a thing like I
played for five different teams. I was cut five different times,
maybe six times, and all those other teams, every time
I left, I left the gear. I did not want

(56:41):
to wear the gear from not on the team. I
don't want the gear, so I would leave all this
stuff behind and I had to separate and distance myself
from that, And in time, I learned to let go
of those hardened feelings towards those previous squads because it happens.
That's part of the business, and you got to be
able to chalk it up. And I think for all

(57:01):
those coaches, they know what they are signed up for
when they stepped in, and they know how transient it
is and cutthroat. So you just have to know what
you have to deal with and you have to find
a way to have to come to terms and be
at peace with it all.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
I'm so glad to hear you saying it's so honest
that you all but and I will say this, if
you're a manager and or a coach college level or
a professional level today, you get hired, the clock starts
ticking as to when you're going to get fired. That's
just the nature of the business. It really is.

Speaker 4 (57:29):
Yeah, it always is, it always will be.

Speaker 5 (57:31):
And so you have to be mature enough to operate
in that space. And you hope that you can operate
in that space without bitterness or anything like that.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
All right, I want to throw something out of you
talk about meltdown, we talk about being on the hot seat.
Let's all meltdowns right now. I watched that Giants Broncos
game last week and the Giants played the Eagles today.
Broncos got thirty three points to the fourth quarter. They
beat the Giants thirty three to thirty two. And I
still personally have confidence in the Giants. I think there's
a different ball club right now with Jackson and Darted quarterback.

(58:01):
Got a little more energy right now. They believe in themselves.
But what has Jackson Dart done under center that Russell
Wilson didn't do or couldn't do at the quarterback position.

Speaker 5 (58:12):
I just think he has the energy and the juice
and the team believes in him. And some of that
is the connectivity between generations, right. So Jackson Dart is younger,
the locker room is young. Russell Wilson is old. Old
by locker room standards, may not listen to the same music,
may not laugh at the same jokes, may not have

(58:32):
the same interest as the young guys. Well, how does
he relate? What's to relate ability? Because ultimately team sports,
you're playing for your teammates, and if you don't give
players a reason to want to play hard for you
or for you to play hard for them, it is
hard for it to work. Jackson dark comes in younger generation,
hip cool blends in well, and the locker room gets

(58:55):
along with everybody. You see the excitement from the team
when he's on the field. That's the biggest difference in
terms of playing in numbers or whatever. The numbers are fine,
but it isn't like he's lightning in the world. But
it's more how you feel or how they feel when
he's in the game compared to how they feel when
Russell Wilson's in the game.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
I'm glad you answered that. I love I love his energy.

Speaker 4 (59:17):
I really do.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
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Speaker 2 (59:50):
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in about ten twelve minutes from now. And believe it
or not, Bucky Brooks, we're halfway through the NFL season.
It's unreal. Really you wait, wait, wait, now it's halfway done.
I can't believe it. Halfway mark. Amazing.

Speaker 5 (01:01:14):
Yeah, it is amazing, kind of crazy that we're finally
to this point in terms of getting there, because this
is the point when we get to the halfway mark
where all the coaches, particularly around there, by week they
go from here's what we think we were going to be,
now this is who we need to be going forward.

Speaker 4 (01:01:30):
So you make the.

Speaker 5 (01:01:31):
Adjustments, You make sure that the right players get the touches,
you put the right people in the lineup, You understand
which plays work best for your personnel, and then you
stick to the script. And if you do that, you
can have a lot of success.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
I'll tell you what's even more amazing this halfway through
the Indianapolis Colts. They're six and one, the NFL's best record,
and their number one in scory at thirty three point
one points a game, their number one in yards per
play six point four, the number one in rushing touchdowns
per game two point three, and the number one and
protecting the quarterback only six sacks allowed. Today, the Colts

(01:02:05):
host the one in six Titans. That would make the
Colts seven and one today, and I got to say
the MVP candidate, at least one of them, would be
their running back Jonathan Taylor, who's basically helped carrying that
offense on what a what's the situation with their quarterback
Danny Dimes. I mean, I'm shocked I'm shocked with the Colts,
but I couldn't be happier for their defensive coordinator lou Anniromo,

(01:02:27):
who was let go by the Bengals last year as
the so called scapegoat. He's turned it around defensively for
them and this team six to one. They're for real,
aren't they? Or is it just fools gold?

Speaker 5 (01:02:38):
No, they're for real. I mean they're one of the
best teams in football. Like, they're a really really good
football team. They do it by committee. They have a
bunch of different playmakers. They can run the football effectively
with one of the best running backs in the game,
and then they have pass catches galore on the outside
and the rookie Tyler Warren has certainly helped them stabilize
that offense. Then on defense, Lou and a. Room is

(01:03:00):
a whiz. He does a great job changing up schemes.
He has the personnel at his disposal to allow some
of those ex'es and o's to come to life. And overall,
when I look at this team, the chemistry is right.

Speaker 4 (01:03:12):
The air team. That's gonna be a tough team to
deal with down the stretch.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
Yeah, let me talk a little bit a little at
the room. Remember several years ago his name was out
there for the head coaching job in Arizona. Now is
it like the Peter principle that if you're a good
classroom teacher, you may not be a good principal. You
got to stay in your lane. Is he going to
be a coordinator the rest of his life? Well? Can
he in fact be a head coach? Should he get

(01:03:37):
a nod to get a shot to be a head coach?

Speaker 4 (01:03:41):
He's been running long enough. I just don't think he
has his name right now, has enough sex appeal.

Speaker 5 (01:03:47):
For whatever reason, He's a really good coach. He's been
really good wherever he's been. People that watch him and
study his defenses have a ton of respect for what
he does, and he should get that kind of attention.

Speaker 4 (01:04:00):
Just hasn't. And I don't know why this is weird?

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
I know why? Can I tell you why? Am my
warp logic? I think defensive coordinators have a lesser chance
of getting ahead coaching job than offensive coordinators because it's
an offensive game, agreed. I mean, Brian Callahan was the
offensive coordinator for the Cincinnati Bengals. He got the job
in Tennessee. Now we got the Ax, he's gone, But
I think offensive coordinators have a better shot because people

(01:04:23):
want points and they're putting points on the board, and
the NFL is an offensive game. He's a defensive guy.
I don't think he's going to get it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:31):
I mean, look, it could be hard for him to
get it.

Speaker 5 (01:04:33):
And the reason why is because you talk about an
offensive game, people worry about the continuity with the quarterback,
and if you have a different offensive coordinator changing all
the time, the quarterback is going to be thrown in flux.
By hiring an offensive minded head coach, in theory, you
eliminate that. In theory, that guy's always going to be

(01:04:54):
around because he's a head coach, so he's there. But
I still don't believe that makes him the best candidates
a offensive mind the guy because BNA coach is more
than about the quarterback, is about the entire team, and
I think we have made it too much about the quarterback,
even though it's the biggest name and it's hottest topic
or whatever. You got to hire the best coach and
then figure it out from there.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
You know, it's funny you mentioned that because when you
see the promos on TV, they don't talk about Titans
playing Colts, they'll say it's Danny Dimes against cam Ward.
That's what they do this quarterback versus quarterback. And they
didn't even mention the team's name and then talk about
cam Ward for a second. The number one pick in
the National Football League's draft last year coming out of
Florida Miami, he has a turnover in every game and

(01:05:37):
I think that if he really and truly wanted to
do something nice, he should get on the horn. And
thanks to Door Sanders, because coming out in the draft,
there wasn't much talk about him. Usually the number one pick, quarterback,
number one pick, they got a lot of talk about,
a lot of hype. Wasn't much hype with him, So
I don't think the expectations maybe for the fans with

(01:05:57):
a high but the expectations national world is big for
cam Warners. That would be for another quarterback being the
number one pick. I think he was lucky in that
regard because he's not doing well at all. Not to
say he may not turn it around, but he's having
a disastrous season.

Speaker 5 (01:06:15):
Leah, it hasn't It hasn't been great for them, and
I would say with cam Ward, everything around him.

Speaker 4 (01:06:23):
Has not been great, right.

Speaker 5 (01:06:24):
The coach, Brian Callahan appeared to be a little overwhelmed
by the responsibilities and all the things that went with that.

Speaker 4 (01:06:32):
And then you have a young.

Speaker 5 (01:06:34):
Quarterback who isn't playing with the best personnel around him,
so all of it kind of throws his performance into flux.
That said, it's about trying to figure out how he
can finish the season strong and how he could take
the things that he learns his rookie season to come
back and have a better sophomore season. But it's gonna

(01:06:55):
be a new coaching staff in those things. But this
is an exploratory phase for him and his career. What
can I do well? How did these people attack me?
What did I learn from the way that these different
coordinators attack me? And it should be diligently taking notes
in studying himself to get ready for what next season
should bring.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
There you go, Can he in fact turn it around?
Because I look at Danny Dimes. I mean this guy,
they wanted to ride him out of town on a
rail in New York. He's going to be the comeback
player of the year this year, no doubt, right.

Speaker 4 (01:07:28):
I mean, yeah, he is. And some of that is.

Speaker 5 (01:07:32):
I would say just look about product of being wanted
and appreciate it and having someone who is a bit
of a quarterback whisperer put some things together to allow
you to succeed. And when you do that, you've see
that most of these quarterbacks are system quarterbacks, and it's
about trying to figure out what is the best system

(01:07:55):
for the personnel that you have. And right now they
have a system that really works for the personnel when
it comes to Danny Dimes and the people that are
around him.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
All Right, I'm going to move along here because I
said they meet again. I'm talking about the Packers are
playing the Steelers today. When Michael Parsons was in Dallas
and Aaron Rodgers was the quarterback in Green Bay. Believe
it or not, I read this to the other day.
Aaron Rodgers was impressed with Michael parsons play. He asked
for his jersey after the game. Can you believe that
that was back after Aaron Rodgers had won back to

(01:08:26):
back MVP awards in twenty and twenty one, and he
said he was marveled by the then twenty three year
old Parsons before the matchup as for his jersey after
the game, which is somewhat. Is that unusual in the
National Football League that they do that a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:08:41):
I mean people that ask for jerseys all the time. Now,
I mean it's.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
Kind who has for your jersey?

Speaker 4 (01:08:45):
I want to know nobody you're giving you nobody nobody.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
I wouldn't mind that.

Speaker 4 (01:08:49):
Yeah, they didn't do that back then. So no one
has ever asked nobody.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
Mark Ramsey wants your jersey, Magic Mark wants your jersey?

Speaker 4 (01:08:59):
Nobody want And that's funny.

Speaker 5 (01:09:01):
Yeah, that's that's that's funny. No, it's it's just a
funny thing. Yeah, that's a new that's a new deal
where you have.

Speaker 4 (01:09:10):
People exchanging jerseys and the picture moment, the photo op
that everyone has taken advantage of. Yeah, that's that's all
brand new.

Speaker 5 (01:09:19):
That's not uh, that's not something that existed way way
way back.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
Well, certainly Aaron Rodgers is gonna be somewhat motivated, maybe
to another level today to beat this former Green Bay team.
They got to contain Michael Parsons today. Parsons had three
sacks in Week seven. But the question I have where
was that great steal of defense on Thursday night in
Cincinnati a week ago? Because I didn't see it when
when the Bengals beat those stealers that night with with

(01:09:45):
Joe Flacco, what happened? I mean, this is supposed to
be so defensively tough. Didn't happen that night?

Speaker 5 (01:09:53):
Yeah, Yeah, I don't know, Like it's it's weird to
see this go down like that. Yeah, because Joe Flecco
had his way with him, had a lot of success,
moved the wall up and down the field.

Speaker 4 (01:10:04):
All of that is.

Speaker 5 (01:10:05):
You know, it's just it's just one of those things
you just are We're just not used to seeing Pittsburgh,
particularly on defense, fall off, and they didn't play well.

Speaker 4 (01:10:16):
They certainly fell off a little bit, no.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
Doubt about that. I mean, and I have to say
right now, Jordan Love, he's having a heck of a year.
He really is one of the best quarterbacks in the
National Football.

Speaker 4 (01:10:27):
League this year.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
He really is.

Speaker 4 (01:10:30):
Yeah, without question, he is.

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
I'm surprised, I really. Maybe there's something to be said
about a quarterback learning the position rather than coming right
in and playing. That's what Green Bay has done. They've
done it with their last three quarterbacks. They stay on
the sidelines, hold the clipboard, see what's going on. Aaron
Rodgers did it. They all do it, but the other
teams like can't. Maybe cam Wood will be better served
if they had a veteran quarterback playing in Tennessee and

(01:10:55):
he just learning and learning the ropes. In the National Football.

Speaker 5 (01:10:58):
League, most people would be better if the most quarterbacks
would be better if they didn't have to go in
right away and play.

Speaker 4 (01:11:05):
However, the buzz.

Speaker 5 (01:11:07):
The energy from the fan base makes it where it's
almost impossible to operate under that slow cook premise. Everyone
wants to see right away, but unfortunately, when you put
your young quarterback out there, the first thing that they say,
if they have some missteps, oh, he can't play, he sucks,
he's a bus he's this, he's that. So you don't

(01:11:27):
have the freedom to develop the way that you wanted to.

Speaker 4 (01:11:32):
Develop because it comes quickly.

Speaker 5 (01:11:36):
The judgment, the criticism, the willingness to move on happens quickly.
And you think in a league where you're getting more
inexperienced players that we would have more patience in watching
the development.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
All right, Okay, if speaking of the Bengals that home
today against the Jets, Jets zero and seven, Bengals are
really right back in the thick of things, in that
division at three and four. The question I have right
now is the fact that number one, Aaron Glenn, the
coach of that just kind of waited and waited till
the eleventh hour to decide who's going to be his quarterback.
Toron Taylor is not going to quarterback. Justin Fields is quarterbacking.

(01:12:11):
I don't think that's good news for the Bengals because
Justin Fields could beat you with his legs, with Toron
Taylor could not. I think the Jets have a better
chance of winning with Justin Fields. Agreed.

Speaker 5 (01:12:24):
Yeah, Now, I don't understand why they had this whole
thing about the quarterback right run. If you paid Justin
Fields forty million dollars in the off season and you're
already ready to pour the plug after eight games, you
probably made a poor decision in the offseason because you
had an opportunity to really dig into all of the
things that he is and is bringing to the table

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and you can make an offense.

Speaker 4 (01:12:49):
So to me, it shows.

Speaker 5 (01:12:51):
Shaky leadership that you're already trying to kind of get
out from up under it, regardless of what the ownership says. Now,
you go through all of that, you go through this
quote unquote quarterback battle, and you're back to the same
guy as the starter. How is he supposed to feel.
Is he supposed to be like, oh man, they really
support me, I'm really good. Let me go give it

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my all? Or does he know what it is? It's
a very difficult thing. And as much as I say
I say that it's business, you have to get used
to it. For quarterbacks, who are typically more temperamental than
any other spot, it's a weird deal to ask this guy.

Speaker 4 (01:13:25):
Okay, man, we hate you, but we need you to
start for us.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
Right I tell you why this can be closer than
people think. I really do. I mean, I think the
Jets are down, down and out, but I think that
right now they could come in here and surprise the
Bengals take could be a trap game, but we'll see. Okay.
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the air. All right, now it is time, because we
love this time, it's time to let us some steam.
You know what that means, don't you. I mean, it's
the blame game. This is freaking next. All right, the

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blame game coming right up. This is Fox Football Sunday
and Fox Sports Radio. He's Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy Firmer.
We're live from the Fox Spots Radio studios. And by
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Sports Radio, So who do not go anywhere there. And

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before we get into the blame game, Bucket Brooks, I
want to say one thing, and if you don't like it,
I'm sorry. Okay, I'm gonna say this. I'm gonna say football.
Football may not be that difficult of a game. You know,
people look at the game, just look at these athletes. Oh,
they're unbelievable. And I say to myself, it's not that
big a deal. You know why you got a forty
year old guy like Joe Flacco comes into Cincinnati on
a Tuesday, plays that Sunday against Green Bay and there's

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an outstanding job in the second half. It ain't that
hard and ain't that hard. Really, he's forty years old.
He could get it done. Bucky us, you wasting your
time talking to me. You should be back on the
field playing. You could do it. You can do it,
Bucky you.

Speaker 4 (01:15:11):
No, no, no, no, no, no no no.

Speaker 5 (01:15:15):
I think the thing that Joe Flacco has done is
he's shown us that older guys, if protected, can't play
in certain systems. And he certainly has had a level
of success being able to do. You know what he's
shown in Cincinnati and some of these other places. He
can't ignite an offense quickly for a little bit to

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kind of get going.

Speaker 4 (01:15:36):
So it's it's interesting to see it play out.

Speaker 5 (01:15:41):
And for the Browns to give the Bengals a quarterback
kind of crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
A starting quarterback was started opening day for them.

Speaker 4 (01:15:51):
Yeah, I mean, kind of nuts, kind of nice to see.

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
All right, now here's time for the blame game.

Speaker 6 (01:15:58):
You ruin me.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
It's all your fault. No, it's your fault. What is
all your fault.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
Maybe it's everyone's fault. Who knows he's a liar.

Speaker 6 (01:16:11):
That's why there's the blame game. Let's figure out how little.

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
Blame a liar. Go ahead, BRAI, he's a liar.

Speaker 3 (01:16:19):
He is definitely a liar. Okay. Sean Payton had this
whole back and forth with Russell Wilson after that Broncos
in Giants game last week. Andy, who do you blame?

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
I'm gonna blame Sean Payton. I love Sean Payton because
he likes skyline chili all right, every time he comes
to Cincinnati because he used to coach at Miami of Ohio.
He's an assistant coach there, love skyline Chili. I love
Sean Payton. He's a good man. But you know sometimes
he's just gonna, like Bucky says, let it go. You
gotta let it go. We talk about that. You know

(01:16:53):
you're a loser when.

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
You do that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
Talk about coaches that get fired, rufe for the guy
to replaced it to do poorly. No, it only hurts you.
We talked about Bill Belichick. He didn't let these scouts
from New England come to North Carolina. It makes you
look petty, It does Sean, let it go. He's not
there anymore. So it's on you, Sean.

Speaker 4 (01:17:10):
Yeah, definitely, it's on Sean Payton. He shouldn't engage in that.
Like Russell.

Speaker 5 (01:17:14):
Wilson doesn't play form anymore. He obviously didn't like Russell.
That's why he moved on from him. I mean, let's
sleeping dogs lie.

Speaker 4 (01:17:21):
It was unnecessary to take a shot at Russell, even
though he did not saying he was just talking about
dark He knows, man, he has to treat Russell with
more class and respect. Russell had a very productive year
his final season for him.

Speaker 5 (01:17:32):
So even though you may not like him his personality
or whatever, take the high road.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
Right And if we should have a split up, I
would never say a bad thing about Bucket Brooks My
hand to God, my hand to go, because I love
him to death. I'm saying it right now.

Speaker 3 (01:17:48):
Is anyone surprised about Sean Payton, just like with the
whole bounty gate drama, you know, I mean, he just
has a lot to say, you guys, I'm always on
his side, Hype just.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
Saying, oh push you in New Orleans Saints fan when
he coached the says, because you're like a Homer. You're
a homer, you really are.

Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
I really am one hundred percent. In that same game,
the Giants had a melt down, losing thirty three to
thirty two and gave up thirty three points in that
final quarter. Bucky, who do you blame for that?

Speaker 4 (01:18:16):
Man?

Speaker 5 (01:18:17):
It's a little bit of everybody. It's a defense because
the personnel has to hold up. You got to be
able to finish the game out. But then offensively, you
got to be able to make sure that you play
comfanery football to not put the defense in that position.

Speaker 4 (01:18:28):
Everyone is to blame when you lose a game like that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:31):
Andy.

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
You know, I hate to do this, but I do
agree with Bucky Brooks because you had a defense had
a bag meltdown, But if the offense could have made
a couple of first downs over there, the game would
have been over. So it's everybody's fault. You know, you
lose as a team, you win, there's a team. It's
everybody's fault, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:18:47):
Brian Daball and Cam Scataboo were fined for those concussion
protocol violations last week. Who do you blame? Andy?

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
I guess you gotta brame Brian Dable I mean, either
he's a fool it didn't all or he's hating the information.
I don't know, but you gotta blame him if you know.
Anytime there's a problem like that, it starts at the top.
He say, why are the Jets bad?

Speaker 6 (01:19:07):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
Whatdy Johnson? He owns the Jets. He he just made poored.
This is his bad leadership, so bad leadership he had
Brian Dabole. But I buck, I've never heard about that
finding for the concussion particle. Before it looked like scattab
was pretty good. He was doing like some assaults on
the sidelines and twists and everything else.

Speaker 5 (01:19:25):
Yeah, I mean, like you get fine because you're not
supposed to go up under the blue tin and do
all that other stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:19:30):
You're supposed to make sure everyone is checked out. They
just didn't go through it.

Speaker 5 (01:19:33):
In their rush to get their players back on the field,
they didn't check off the.

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
Proper steps, all Righty Jacksonville gave Travis Hunter fourteen targets
last week, twice as many as Brian Thomas Junior got.
Who do you blame, Bucky?

Speaker 5 (01:19:48):
Look, I blame Travis Hunter for being so good that
you have to give it to him and he I mean,
it is obvious that he is the juice when he
has the ball in his hands. Brian Thomas Junior had
dealt with some drops, some other guys that dealt with drops.
Travis Hunt has been the most consistent when it comes
to catching the ball.

Speaker 4 (01:20:02):
That's where you have more opportunities.

Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
Andy, I love Travis Hunt, given twenty eight targets. I
don't care. I like Brian Thomas. He's a hell of
a player. But you know what, the guy's open giving
the ball. That's what it is. Look at Jamar Chase
just giving the ball. He's always open. He's like seven
to eleven, always open.

Speaker 6 (01:20:20):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:20:21):
So it's fun.

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
Good job guy, all right, no more, that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
Yeah, what do you mean we're done?

Speaker 5 (01:20:31):
Done?

Speaker 3 (01:20:31):
You're always done?

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
Oh well, I didn't realize. All right, Buck, you have
a great week. We'll see you next week, and of
course stay tuned. Greg Cosell and Mike Harmon on Fox
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