Andy Furman & Bucky Brooks react to the second week of NFL Preseason with the emerging storyline in Cleveland with the Browns and what to do with Shedeur Sanders and the rest of the QB's. Andy and Bucky also get into the NCAA fining Michigan for its cheating scandal and make sense of how big or small the implications are going forward. Plus, the guys talk a possible Odell Beckham return, Dillon Gabriel's comments mid game, play The Blame Game, and more!!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Ferman.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
And by the way, we're broadcasting live from the Fox
Sports Radio studios and away we go.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Here he is, it's football times.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
So there's none better to talk to than the main
man himself, my partner, Bucket Brooks.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Hello, Buck, how are you?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I am?
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Great, Andy, little under the weather, but I'm here and
down in New Orleans getting ready for a Jaguar Saints
preseason game.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
You know, I kind of figured it out. You know,
it takes me a little longer than others. I'm a
little slower than others. I'll tell you why.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I say that.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Everybody's all excited about the preseason, and I've saying to myself, well,
you know, after the first couple of snaps, you have
no idea who's playing, and you're never going to see
these guys again, perhaps unless you follow Canadian football.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
So now I know what the deal is. It's all
about excuses.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
You know, when the preseason plays, everybody has an ex
If your team loses, well you know they're not playing
their regulars and if a team wins, you got hope. Okay,
in particular, now, the Giants beat the Jets yesterday, who
was like something like thirty one to twelve, I think
it was, and all of a sudden that they got
Jackson Darth. That is a bit of a I guess
maybe a quarterback controversy. They say, Jackson Dart's not going
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to be but playing. He's not starting, he's not the
guy right but however, he is pretty good.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
But again it's preseason. What does it mean? Bucky? Tell me?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
He won fourteen for sixty, pass for one hundred and
thirty seven and he's scored. He passed for a touchdown
as well. He's obviously the future for the Giants, but
he's not going to play. But I guess the Giant
fans have hope right now.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
I mean, whenever you take a quarterback in the first
round and he has an opportunity to play in a
preseason game, you want to see that he looks the part,
that he gives you some wow moments. And that's what
Jackson Dart has provided in New York Giants. He's given
them some wow moments, some hope, some optimism, some a
feel good. It's about the position because they have a
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young guy who has showing it two preseason games.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
There's some promise. That's what you want.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
And if you're Brian da Ball, what it does is
it gives you hope that at some point during the season,
if Jackson Dart has to play, the results are going
to be positive. Doesn't mean that he's a better option
than Russell Wilson now, but he's trending to get in
the right direction.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Okay, here's my take on it right now.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Obviously, Russell Wilson's the guy, been there, done that, played
in the NFL, no doubt about that. But maybe he's
passed his prime. Maybe he's in the shadow of his career.
Who knows. But I'll tell you right now, if I'm
Brian day Ball, I know that this is my year.
I don't win this year, I'm probably gonna be gone.
I'm playing the guy that maybe gives me a better
chance to win. And I think right now, maybe Jackson Dart.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Maybe I'm nuts, but maybe Brian Dabell and those guys
aren't under the directive that they have to win if
they've shown promise with a young quarterback.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
The odds of winning significant games with a young quarterback
or not in Brian day Ball's favor. But given his
impact on Josh Allen in the past, given the change
that he made in Daniel Jones' career when he first
got there, maybe Brian Daball and Joe Shane are not
necessarily in the best place for ownership, but they're on
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the same page when it comes to the development of
the young quarterback. And because Jackson Dart has shown promise
in the preseason, it actually may give Brian Dave Bautlan
those guys some time because he can go to ownership
and be like, hey, we can slow cook this process.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
We don't need to put him out there.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
If we're saying that the young quarterback is our future,
we don't want to disruptive his growing process by changing
coaches and doing those things.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
I think he's in good shape.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Like, look, the season is the season, and they certainly
can't get blown out the first half of the year,
but I think he may be in good shape with
that defense looking like it looks in the quarterback looking
like a viable option for the future.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
You know, you just hit on something right now that
I never even thought of. They need to do a
study on quarterbacks on their growth process, on how many
head coaches and or offensive coordinators they've had in the past.
You look at Trevor Lawrence and you're pretty close to
that situation. How many offensive coordinators has he had over
the list couple of years, three four. I mean, I
think that makes a major difference in the growth pattern
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of a quarterback right absolutely does.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
The reason why is because you need stabuild the instructure
to have success as a young player, particularly young quarterback.
Same voice, same system, same rep same things on a
daily basis to get better. If you're always changing those things,
you always reset the counter back to zero and you
have to start the climb again. But by having a
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level of structure in place, consistency in those main things,
the coaching staff, the players around them, that gives your
quarterback the best chance to thrive. And as you're looking
at the New York Giants, their defense, which I believe
the front line is the best in football. When you
talk about extra Lawrence and those guys, if they can
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play great defense, if they're able to establish a running
game in those things, it is the perfect environment for
a young quarterback to come in there.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
So maybe we can see some growth now with Ben
Johnson coaching the Bears with Caleb Williams. Could we see
a change in Caleb right now?
Speaker 4 (05:18):
I mean we could. I can't say that. I'm all
the way convinced that we've seen all of that. I
would say that potentially we could be there because Ben
Johnson has pulled this all before in a different way
with Jared Goff, you know, being there with Jared Goff.
Jared Goff is a bit of a broken quarterback when
he goes to Detroit because he's been cast off from
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the Rams. Confidence is not there, and they rebuild him
up to be a Pro Bowl caliber quarterback, almost a
championship quarterback, by surrounding with a good running game, a
confident play caller, a solid scheme that he can work with,
and then just understanding how to win games and put
him in a situation to win games. Yeah, coaching, structure,
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all that matters. You know.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
It's funny you mentioned it now.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I'm thinking of the quarterbacks that were tossed out in
the trash and came back with a new life. I mean,
you know, and you can look at Geno Smith. He's
one of those guys as well.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
In New York. They kind of rolled him out on
a rail.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
They did.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
They did not feel good about Geno Smith in New York.
It takes him a long time to get an opportunity
to come back to be a starter. Bounced around Giants, Chargers,
finally gets a chance in Seattle before.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Landed in with the Raiders.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
But he became a two time Pro Bowl player in
Seattle because they would run the football effectively. He had
the right voice in his ear with the play calls
and those things, and he got better. So it takes
it's a combination of factors, at least the success of
the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I could add one one. Maybe Baker Mayfield's in that
category as well.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Oh, he absolutely is.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
I mean two things that hell, Baker won when he
went to the Rams with Sean Mavay. That brief stint
showed what he could do. Then he goes to Tampa
Homily finds his way has success in the day of Canalis,
did Liam Cohen. Those things are consistent. It's the right system,
the right play caller. But more importantly, the right people
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around him, offensive line, running game wide receivers. But the
common denominator between all those things is to consistency between
the structure of the offensive organization meaning plays personnel around him,
and then the presence of a good defense where he
doesn't have to do everything. He only has to manage
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the offense. It doesn't have to kind of be the
driving force of the offense.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Right.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
I know how many rated fans are out there. Why
I don't know, but you know, Raiders have a tremendous following.
They travel well, the fans, and all of a sudden
they got some hole. But Ashton gentye and now I
get it. I mean, he was great in college. But
last night, what did they do? The Raiders lose to
the forty nine is on what was the last second
field goal twenty two to nineteen. That was the final.
But jenty had seven carries for thirty three yards. But
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I get it. It's they're going crazy. They're going gaga
now and maybe they now they have a running game.
They were pretty bad as far as the running game.
Who's concerned the year ago? Maybe Genty's the answer, but
you know, I'm not that kind of guy. I you know,
I see better than I hear. And I got that
from you know, some coaches at the Cincinnati Bengals. You
know who they are back in the day. But again,
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I hope he does well. I think he'll do okay.
But you know, I look at the pedigree. I look
where he played in college. I don't know if he
would have had such a great career if he played
in the SEC. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe, but we don't know.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Running backs can come from anywhere. Though he's a terrific player.
His skill set has been compared to that of the
Danny and Thomason. Remember the Danny Thompson didn't play.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
In the SEC.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
So great running backs can come from anywhere. I'm willing
to bank on his skills, in his temperament, he's gonna
be a good player.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Well, I hope he is.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I mean, and look to some extent, he should have
maybe won the Heistchman Trophy of a year ago.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Really, yeah, that's a debate.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
I still believe he went to the right guy, Travis Hunter,
because of what he done. But yeah, I mean, it's
a good worthy debate. We can't have a spirit of
debate about him being worthy of winning given the production
that he put up. I mean, the consistency that he
had over time. Now people are talking about as you
did Mountain West competition, but the numbers are undeniable.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Right, no doubt about that. And now I want to
talk about a name, and all of a sudden, Now
this is like.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
The big story in preseason.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
There's always a story, and this year the story is
Shador Sanders. All right, maybe it's the name. I don't know,
tell me help me here. Why all the fuss? He
was a fifth round pick, obviously, I think the fuss
is his last name.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
That's what it is.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Last week had the opening game against Carolina, and on
social media they got craziness. Lebron James was praising him,
Jamie Fox was praising him on social media.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Helped me out here.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I know. We won thirteen to twenty three under thirty
eight yards, two touchdowns. He's a little hurt now with
the oblique, but honestly, I mean he was a fifth
round pick, and I don't though sure the Browns are
gonna keep four quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
I mean, the performance was magical last year. Last week
we didn't get chance to se him Againt. The Eagles
this week, but just the energy and enthusiasm that existed
in the stadium, he was terrific in terms of moving
around the pocket and doing those things. Not perfect, but man,
he showed a lot of promise having an opportunity to
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play at the last minute.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Look, I think he was good.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
And then when you compare his performance and the offense
performance against Dylan Gabriel and the Browns offensive performance under
the third round pick, Yeah, there's some reasons why the
Chaudur supporters.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Are really kind of beating their chests.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
With what he did. So I think it was solid,
it was impressive. It was a flash, which is what
you want to see you doing this time of year.
But it wasn't enough for him to overtake Joe Flacco
whomever as the QB one, but it definitely showed that
he could play in the National Football League.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I don't understand how he felt to help me here.
How did he fall to the fifth round? Was it
his attitude because of his dad, the name Sanders, I
don't get it. I mean, I think he had an
outstanding collegiate career in Colorado, I really do. And as
a quarterback, that's a need position, a need position.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
It's very rare.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I think that a quarterback given fools that far down
if you think he has that kind of a skill set,
fifth round, I mean really, I mean, come on, I
still think he's better than Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I still think he's better than him.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
He may be, but ultimately, it doesn't matter where he
came in. He got picked where he got picked. Now
you have to go prove it.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
You know.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
The one thing that the draft is and I have
to tell people all it is his pole position is
where you start your career. But it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
But it's my position too.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Yeah, I mean it's a money position, but it's not
that ultimately, Like the NFL is a meritocracy, like you
get paid off of what you do, and you can
come in as a first round pick as an undrafted
free agent. But once you have your opportunity is what
you make of it. And if he continues to take
advantage of his opportunities, it'd be great for him. It'd
be a great story. And I'll say this, no bleak
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injury preventing him from building upon that the way that
you would like to see, right, It kept him out
of the game and so he didn't get a chance
to play. But like we were celebrating Jackson Dart because
Jackson Dart put together back to back performances.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
That were solid.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
If your Door Santas does that, it changes the narrative.
It changes everyone's tune a little bit.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Okay, I want to zoom in on your guy in Jacksonville.
This thing really bothers me. All right, I'm to my cam,
little twenty one year old kid. I look him on TV.
It looks like years old. He really does. You've seen
him up a close and personal, right. Does he even shave?
I don't even think he shaves, really.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
I mean he's here as a boyish look to him.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
I guess he does. Okay, he's twenty one.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Hit that seventy yard field goal against the Steelers, the
longest kick made in football history. So all of a sudden,
now the Pro Football Hall of Fame in Canton, Ohio.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Says they want his jersey to put on display.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Why can he have an asterisk next to his name
that he set the record? I know it's preseason, it's
the record. I don't know if anybody's gonna ever kick
a seven yard field goal last night, that a fifty
nine or at the end of the game for San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
But I don't know, and I hope he does.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
But why can't they put that in the record book
as an asterisk, say he did it, but he did
it in a preseason game.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
He still did it.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I don't understand why it's gonna go away and no
one's even gonna know about it.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Now, we got to have some formal things when it
comes to that part of it here.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
We need, we need.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
We can't allow him to go into Hall of Fame,
but the as the record holder, it's great to celebrate it.
But it's a preseason game, not a regular season game,
and so that's why you can't give him the record.
I don't get an exhibition it's an exhibition game.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
So it doesn't count on that.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
So if that's if that's the case, they shouldn't keep scoring,
then don't keep scoring preseason.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Really, I mean that bugs me.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
To his credit, he's never said boo, he's never said
a word saying I should have the record give me
the right.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I mean, he's fine. You see it. Do you see
him almost on a daily basis?
Speaker 6 (14:37):
Do you go to practices in Jack when I've gone
to practices I've seen him move around or whatever, and
they told me in practice he had nailed a seventy
two yard of the week during the week leading into
that performance.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
You know, this wasn't something that the team had planned,
but they just kind of got in that situation. They
got to run the balls at midfield. They were like,
why not? And he nailed it. So it does change
the way the team thinks going forward. It's a great thing.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Dark I think it's wonderful.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I really do.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
I need to pick your brain a little bit.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Now We've we finished two weeks and we're going into
the final week of preseason games. Is there anything in
your mind that stands out say, well, I didn't see
this coming.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
I'm looking forward to this team. This team is going
to make some moves.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
You know.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Just some talk now about the Kansas City Chiefs. Can
they beat the throne? I mean, what have you seen
and you travels around the National Football League?
Speaker 4 (15:37):
I think the biggest thing is the young quarterbacks and
Jackson Dart and cam Ward. We beat two of the
biggest names we've already talked about, Shudurah Sanders. Cam Ward
finally have an opportunity to play and it's funny. He's
the most overlooked number one overall pick that we've ever had.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
And he probably loves it. He probably loves it.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
I mean, I mean, it's certainly motivation, but we don't
talk about him. And he has shown some flashes. He
has the alpha dog temperament that you look for. He's talented,
but man, he is flying under the radar.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
So, I mean, do you see a team right now
that was flat on its back a year ago that's
going to make some sort of a move this year,
makes some noise, you know, a change all of a sudden.
Do you see the Bears coming alive? I mean, right now,
it looks like the same old, same old. I don't
see anybody coming out of the pasture, so to speaking,
and make a splash that hasn't been there before.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
You They talk about Groller day. Okay, Green Bay's good.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
But it's hard right now with preseason because everyone has
a different agenda going into the games. There's some teams
that are trying to get used to winning, I e.
The New England Patriots, Mike Rablind those guys have prioritized
winning in the preseason. Other teams that are prioritized health,
they want to make sure that their guys get to
the starting line. Brady, you go the Rams, Those teams
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hard to really make anything out of the preseason because
it's not a level playing field when it comes to
and the focus and the intent to win.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
You know what, that's a great point because I think
that teams that have not won in several years that
that's what they call the culture.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I guess, I mean, that's culture, whatever it may be.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
But you want to let them know that this is
how you win, and it's a good feeling to win,
and you better start winning now. On the other side
of the coin, I look at the Detroit Lions. They've
lost their first two games in preseason. What does that mean?
Speaker 4 (17:34):
I mean, it doesn't necessarily mean anything to be kick
it off because once again, without really knowing those conversations
that have existed internally about the teams and those things,
you just don't know. But I would say, look, man,
don't spend a whole lot of time worrying about how
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the Lions are performing during preseason. Get a feel for
what the first team looks like, does it feel like
it's operating smoothly in those things? And then after that
you just kind of move forward, you know, just kind
of wait till they kick off the first week.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
You know.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
And I'll say this, I think there are some underlining
questions that I think coaches and even players will not
go public with. But I think the fans could take
a good hard look and see that. I'm looking at
the Cincinnati Bengals. They look good offensively a week ago,
and they played tomorrow in Washington against the Commanders, but
the defense to me, was no better than it was
a year ago.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
And I think that's a major concern.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
They won't say that publicly, but I think they're gonna
look at that big time tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
That's a big test.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I mean, if their defense looks flat again, people are
gonna say, well, they didn't play the regulars. They make
a difference, the defense was bad and if it doesn't
get any better, and still that Trey Hendrickson thing is out,
I mean, he didn't even talk about that now. I
mean it looks like a given that he's probably not
gonna play. I mean, I can't believe it, but I
mean I don't get that deal. But their defense really
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and truly is that as an anchor on that ball club.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Yeah, I mean the defense is a problem, but remember.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Preseason, we got to see what it looks like.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
They'll be fine.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
I love how positive you are. You take me out
of the depths, because I'm a negative kind of guy.
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ten minutes from now, so get this. Officials are going
to be cracking down on college football players who fake injuries.
How they gonna do that? Bucky Brooks telling me, and
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your hand on your heart. Did you fake an injury
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I mean, it is a real thing.
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I never faked an injury. Firstly, like we're taking come on, no,
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in from the sideline and the Rosie form would just
tell everyone somebody taking me, somebody played dead.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
You know.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
We just yeah, so we were played, we were play
we played it. We played those games. That's that's kind
of a part of what it is.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
The games you guys practice that work that out in practice.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
We absolutely did work it out where we had someone
where we were we had a designated fall guy. That's
how we call it, irenated fall guy. Someone had taken knee,
don't look crazy, just just taking knee, laid there for
a little bit. It would allow us to have an
informal time out to calm everything down and to get
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us back on track. So yeah, like I mean, and
I hate to admit it, but yeah, we operated like that.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
No, when you say we is that pro and college?
Speaker 3 (23:07):
No, that was just pro. That was just in the pros.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
But I do I wouldn't be surprised if it's trickled
down to the collegiate ranks, given how long it's been
since I played in the pros. But yeah, that's that
is a part of it.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Man.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
You give the sign we have a designated player that
will fall down, and you know, you take a knee
and you go out here and you tell the trainer
to make sure you take your time and look it
over real good, and that it butes a little time
to have a little conversation and get everything squared away.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Now, the NCAA Football Rules Committee said players are faking
injuries to stop the game clock is going to happen
beginning this season. If a player on the field presents
as an injured player after the bowl is spoted for
the next play, that player's team will be charged a timeout.
If the team does not have timeouts remaining, a five
yard delayed game penalty will be assessed. I don't know
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a good bit or and different. I mean how they
got to judge that. How do you know if it's
real injury or not really well.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
I mean they have cameras in the stadium everywhere. If
they allow the replay move to kind of see what's
going on, you just see the guy all of a
sudden fall out and nothing has happened. I mean, we've
seen it because they caught guys on TV doing it.
That's how we know that some teams have quote unquote
faked injuries. I mean, if you bring the replay part
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into it, yeah, there's a way to kind of assess
what's going.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
On, and that player's got to be out of the
game for at least one down, even though the team
is granted a timeout and he cannot return until receiving
the approval of a medical professional.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
So I guess it.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Will not be the trainer on the team, actually a
medical professional kind of a guy who is not associated
with either team.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
I would think, yeah, I mean, that makes sense if
you want to do a neutral party.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
All right, So here's my question. I mean, I see
that happen. It does happen. You're telling me that basically
it's practiced at times with a dummy.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
I'm sure. I mean, the guy does who's to fake
an the injury?
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Okay, but they do it, I guess to slow down
the temple of an offense.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Is that what they do? I mean, does it really work?
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Yes, it does work.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Yeah, it works because it allows you to slow down
the temple. It's allows you to have a informal time out.
The communication to get everybody lined up and organized. Yes,
it works. That's why you want to slow it down.
Slow the energy, slow the tempo down. It's a way
of getting your time out without formally taking the time out.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Well, we'll see this year.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
We're gonna watch it very closely in the college games,
all right. Now, and overtime, he's another college rule. Now
and overtime. Each team is going to continue to be
allowed one time out and both the first and second
extra periods. After the first two overtime periods, now, each
team will be allowed only one time out for the
remainder of the game. A team was allowed one time
out of each overtime period, regardless how many were required
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to decide a winner. Interesting, I don't know why they
would do that. I mean, just to speed the game up,
I would think, right, yeah, everything.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
He's trying to fit it into the TV window, so
you don't want it to drag out forever.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
That's why.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Interesting, you know, don't they had commercials, but they won't
give you an extra time.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Out for the team. I don't get it, But that's
just the way it is.
Speaker 8 (26:24):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
All right, here's another change. Help me out with this one.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
On kick returns college, if any player on the team
holds out his arm to make a tee a te
signal during that kick, the team gives up its right
to make a return and the play will be whistled dead.
Tell me what that's all about. The coaches tell you
to make a tea? What was that? Tell me that
a deal? I don't get it.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Well, the tea, the iron cross signal says that it's
automatic touch Bawn, you're not gonna return it. So once
you make that, it's almost like a fair caid signal.
You know everyone pulls off or whatever. So for competitive fairness,
what you want to do is once that signal is made,
is done, like there's no change in your mind. Later,
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once you declare that it's over, the plays over and
you have to take the touch back.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
M all right now?
Speaker 2 (27:16):
In the Football Championship Subdivision, was that like there used
to be NC double A Division two?
Speaker 1 (27:21):
I would think, right so now that.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
A okay coach to play a communications through the helmet,
that's could be allowed right now?
Speaker 1 (27:30):
I had no idea it wasn't allowed before.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
I don't watch a lot of Championship Subdivision games, but
why wasn't it allowed before.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
I'm gonna be honest with you, I don't know what
I wasn't allowed before. You would think that it would
already be there, But it's a trickle down. It just
was allowed in the collegiate level last year, so sometimes
it takes a year or two before the lower levels
take on those things.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Well, maybe the lower levels doesn't have enough money in
their budget to buy communication devices for helmet. Could be
I don't know, man, I'm just throwing that out the craps.
I mean, it's an expensive deal.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
I look at look, it is an expensive deal, and
that's why some of the there's the disparity.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
But to level the playing field for everybody, you have.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
To allow no one to do it, or everyone has
to be able to do it.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
So help me out here this now, okay, the communication
device from a player to helmet and to coach the
sideline to the helmet. You're playing in Michigan one hundred
and five thousand people, could you honestly hear what's going on?
I hear what these I see what these guys do.
They put their hand on the side of the helmet.
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Does it really work? You got one hundred and five
thousand screaming lunatics on there in Michigan or any other
Ohio state.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
I can't see that even working. Does it work?
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Yeah? No, I think I think it does work. Obviously,
it's about putting one in. Communication is crystal clear. You
just have to make sure you cover ear holes so
the outside noise does the impact it.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
But yeah, it works, all right. I'm glad to hear that. Now,
another question, because I know you have these answer.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
I'm watching football more often in the college game than
in the pro game. Some guys on the sidelines with
various pieces of artwork, like crazy stuff like looks like designs.
I guess their plays, right, Have you seen that? What's
the deal with that? Instead of having a communication device
if they can't hear you in the helmet, that have
the guy on the sideline holding up like a big
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cardboard a sign. It looks like and looks like advertisements,
but they're not there. They are various designs. I guess
the players know what they are. Is that what it is?
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Have you seen that?
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Yeah? I mean the plackards on the sideline. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Every I guess character means something offensive or defense.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
So you have real ones.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
You have ones that are dummies or decoys that mean nothing. Yeah,
but they tell you which ones alive and what it means.
So as part of the signal and the placard, it's
going on for years, like all those things have existed
for years. So even with the communication, they still like
to use those things, like the.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Pros to I don't see pros using that right, I mean.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Just college because in the pros you have the device,
you don't need to use it. That's why you have
the stuff in the headset the quarterback, you have a
green dot down on defense who gets.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
The call and relates it to everybody.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
In college, for years you didn't have those things, and
so you had to have a way to get the
call in for all eleven defenders or offensive players to see.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
And so you would see that.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
And then you also after signs stealing, you'll see the
people holding up the shades in front of or behind
the signaler, so the people in the press box can't
identify the signal and steal the signal. So all that
goes on. That's more of a collegiate thing than a
pro thing.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
But yeah, that's what you're at.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Well, there's a couple of people that could steal signals.
I think you could throw maybe Jim Harbaugh, we'll get
into that later on. Maybe Jim Harbor knows how to
do that. Get into that a little later on. But
and this is kind of sad. This is kind of
said that the NC DOUBLEA had to come out with
this rule. Get this, all forms of gun violence are
not permitted, and simulating the firing of a weapon is
an automatic unsportsmanlike foul. This year of a player simulates
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the act of brandishing a weapon, it will be considered unsportsmanlike.
I mean, really, do you have to Is it that bad?
That's kind of sad. I think they got to throw
that out there.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
I mean, yeah, it is that bad, and it's sad.
But you have to.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Remember, it's not just the game that you're talking about.
Is the young people that look up to these guys,
and so when they mimic gun fire in those things,
then what happens is it falls down to high school
and youth football or whatever. So this is part of
double A stepping in, stepping in to make sure that
the guys are modeling good behavior. You can't get everything
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out of the game, but you can't control.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Some of this.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
And so look I'll plaud them for that because some
of that gunfire stuff that the kids do is stupid.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Well, it is stupid, I will tell you this much.
At least the NC double A is addressing it.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
I mean it's said that they have to do that,
but I wish the NBA would because I think it
happens a lot more in the NBA. I mean, when's
the commissioner of the NBA. He needs to say something
and maybe throw a technical foul, do something, because you know,
those kids really emulate those NBA players and I've seen
it a lot in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Yeah, they do, like they do emulate all that stuff,
and you need to get that out. But it takes
a commissioner to step in and say, we don't want
to see this. It's not it's not professional, it's not
a good look. We don't want young people copying these things.
And it's about prioritizing the brand. The NBA has done
this before, they did it. David Stern was really big
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on protecting the brand, and you know, you just need
to make sure that's that's what they do.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Yeah, and I'm really surprised that d NC double A
came out with these rule changes. So close to the
beginning of the season. I mean you would think they would.
I mean some of them are really major, but still
in all you would think that maybe a coach would
want to run these in in spring practice. Why announce
these the week before the season starts next week is
ground zero.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
It's reminded.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
The coaches already knew what it was, but it's a reminder.
They come out and when a lot of times we
catch win of it, the media catch wins of it
late as we're beginning to have these meetings for broadcasts
and all the stuff, and they're telling the broadcasters what's
new for twenty twenty five. That's why we the public
are just getting it. But the coaches have been well
aware of this for a few months. They've had these
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discussions with their teams. So this is it's not something
that is last been It's something that has been done before.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Okay, And any defensive play within one yard of the
line of scrimmage, stationery or not, may not make a
quit and abrupt move or exaggerated actions that simulate action
at the snap of an obvious attempt to make the
offense commit a penalty.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
I get that. Okay, that's big.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
The offense will be held to the same standard as
any pre snap movement that simulates action at the snap
is a foul on the offense for a full start.
That's that's kind of been in play anyway, so we
kind of knew that.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
Yeah, I mean, it's been in play. It's just about
making sure. We're talking about competitive equity. Just make sure
everything is fair.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
All right, We'll see what's gonna go on. I'm gonna
really have my eye on these fake injuries. It's gonna
be big in college football. It's gonna be the first
team that kind of gets thrown the flag on. That
be really interesting to see what happens on that. All right,
He's Bucket Brooks on Maddy Firman. We have Fox Sports Sunday.
I'm Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
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Speaker 2 (34:52):
As Bucky coming right out. That's Bucket Brooks and of
course I'm Andy Ferrman. We have Fox Sports Sunday on
Fox Sports Radio twelve minutes before the top of the hour,
and we are live from the Fox Bus Radio studio.
So let's get it go and ask Bucky time at LD.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Are you ready?
Speaker 8 (35:05):
Oh, I'm ready, I got one on. All right, let's go.
Let's go.
Speaker 10 (35:10):
All right, Bucky, I got a question for you here.
So obviously, it's been two weeks for preseason and two
exceptionally strong performances from who won Jackson Dart for the Giants.
My question to you, Buck is, do you think Jackson
Dart takes the starting spot early in the season.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
No. I think this plays out over a bit. I
think you have to figure out when the Giants bye
week is. That's normally the breaking point. That's when you
want to slide a young quarterback in. I don't think
it happens early. I think, if anything, it happens where
whenever the Giants have a bye week.
Speaker 9 (35:45):
LD.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
I'm really glad you brought the quarterback situation because I
got a question for Bucket Brooks. I'm gonna ask Bucket.
It's a good time to ask him. Of course, let's
ask Bucket time all right now. The Associated Press picked
their old time all Americans the other day and Tim
Tebow was named quarterback.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
I got to ask Bucket Brooks.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
What about Vince Young, What about Vinnie Testavarde, What about
Michael vic Johnny Manziel, Andrew Luck, Peyton Manning, Cam Newton,
or even Joe Burrow?
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Why Tim Tebow?
Speaker 3 (36:14):
What was the question about Tim t Bow? Why is
he what?
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Like?
Speaker 1 (36:17):
He picked him?
Speaker 2 (36:18):
The Associated Press picked him as the old time quarterback
on their All American team.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
Probably because of what he did in college. I mean,
he won the Heisman Trophy in college. In look, he
was a force of nature. So I can understand if
they're using the college game as the platform, Tim Tebow
should be up there.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Really over Cam Newton, that Joe Burrow.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
I mean he did it multiple years, so he, like
Joe Burrow Cam Newton were one year wonders at their
respect of college's no disrespect.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
But Tim Tebow did it over time.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Good point. I knew you'd have the answer. I knew
you would. All right, Next, how good will quarterback.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Caleb Williams be this year for the Bears under the
guidance of first year coach Ben Johnson.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
I think there's a lot of hype about him but
it all comes down to the quarterback and if you
believe in him. I'm still in waiting to see mode
when it comes to Kaylen Williams, just because of I
would say the competitive and emotional maturity. I need to
see that he's grown. But if he's grown, the talent
is there. They have the pieces around him, but a
lot of it depends on the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Okay, I hear what you're saying. Now, this is especially
for you.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Former National Football League players are more likely to be
living with chronic pain or disability, are more depressed and anxious,
on a far more likely to have some type of
cognitive decline than the average man like LD I mean, really,
Doug him. Okay, do you agree? And how are you
holding out Bucket Brooks as a former player?
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (37:50):
I think it can be tough on former players. Now,
I am lucky knock on wood. Health is good. My
body feels great. But for some of who played maybe
in the trenches or really engaged in the true physical
physical nature of the game, yeah, it can leave them broken.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
So yeah, so look, I believe in those studies.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
Because I have seen some of my teammates and fellow
players go through things.
Speaker 8 (38:12):
Did you just take a shot at me? Andy?
Speaker 2 (38:14):
How slow are you? You must have something I was
waiting for Lucky to finish. Did you play in the NFL?
Maybe you got some problems?
Speaker 8 (38:22):
Really actually, maybe I need another Wisonator.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Oh my goodness. We'll go go down that road another day.
All right, Okay, tell us why Bucket Brooks. College football
coaches make so much money? And should they?
Speaker 3 (38:38):
I mean, look, they're bringing a lot of revenue.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
To the school, and studies have shown that the better
your football and basketball teams are, the more your admission
rates in terms of more people apply for admission. So look, man,
outside of the chancellor or a head of thing, they
are very influential in what happens at the collegiate on
the collegiate camp.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
I just I can't believe some of the money that
they make. I just how much is Bill Belichick making
in North Carolina?
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Ten million? Something like that?
Speaker 3 (39:09):
I think so. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
But like if the football team is good, then you
have more applicants, which leads the more money for the university.
The clicks that they see, because every time you have
a college game, there's an infomercial or commercial about the university.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
It makes sense.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
I mean, they represent the university in a major spotlight.
So I understand, you know, the money that goes to them.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
See, he's making more money in North Carolina than he
made his coaching on New England Patriots.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
No, I'm not saying he made more.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
He's making more now, but he's making a hefty chuck
of change.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Now I got to ask the average man of question, LD.
Are you there, I'm asking you a question right now?
Speaker 10 (39:47):
Oh, I'm here?
Speaker 3 (39:48):
What's up?
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Right? Okay?
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Now this is ask LD Bucket Brooks said, like when
the football comes are on TV, there's a lot of clicks.
If you're sitting at home watching North Carolina play and
they're winning on Bill Belichick's to coach and this stands
a full would you be inclined to apply to go
to school in North Carolina because to the football team?
Speaker 10 (40:07):
Uh, if I'm a football fan, football watcher, yeah, I
probably would be, especially because just star power.
Speaker 8 (40:13):
Yeah I wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
I you know, I just never thought of it that.
Speaker 4 (40:17):
But I'll see this because my daughter just went through it.
She's won the University of Texas. She wanted to go
somewhere with an atmosphere, and so we're watching Texas football
and Texas basketball, but football and particularly the energy around
the football team, particularly when they went in the playoff run,
made her want to have that experience. So, yes, it
does impact young people.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
I believe you. Believe me. I believe you. There's no
doubt about that. Do we have time for one more?
L d Oh? We guess we do not?
Speaker 2 (40:45):
All right, we'll continue that, but right now, guess what
he wants to play again? That and so much more
on Fox What's Sunday coming up right here next?
Speaker 3 (40:54):
All right?
Speaker 2 (40:54):
His former team is BUCkies number one. Yeah, I'm going
to find all about that in just About It. And
good morning everybody. This is Fox Sports Sunday on Fox
Sports Radio. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm and Deferman, and we're
broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. And away
we go. And Buck, I know you had a big week.
I know you're a little bit under the weather. You're
drinking that tea with lemon.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
I am it's funny because I just I just went
out the room.
Speaker 4 (41:17):
I just made sure I went to the microwave to
heat up another cup so I can.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
Try and make it through this segment.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
I'm not gonna pressure. You know, I'm gonna take it
easy on you. I need you, I love you, and
then we're gonna move on. Right now, I got a
couple of things I want to clean up before we
get into the heavy duty lifting, all right. Number one,
what happens to the La Rams without Matthew Stafford this year?
Because I worry about a thirty seven year old guy
with a bad back.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
They'd be fine.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
They're figured out like it, they'll get to it. I
do worry about him when it comes to like being
able to hold up, But Shari Vay's confident, you know,
he's confident figured it out. It helped that you have
Jimmy Garoppolo in the fold and also steps and minute.
Jimmy Garoppolo is good enough for them to kind of
work around some of his deficiencies to still win games.
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But it's certainly not Matthew Stafford. But I believe in
Less Snead. I believe in Seanmvay. They can figure this out.
If he's not available.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
That that's a big deal.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
That what you just said right there is that I
don't think a lot of people feel the same way,
especially maybe RAM fans. But that's big when you just
said that they'll be pretty good even if Matthew Stafford
doesn't play. That's huge because you have that much confidence
in that coaching staff.
Speaker 4 (42:30):
Oh yeah, like I am fine with them figured it out.
So you know they're figured out. They'll get it done.
And the Rams are one of those teams that they're contender.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
People don't talk about them being a contender.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
But they look. They took the Eagles to the matt
last year. It had an opportunity to do it.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
This year.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
They have a better roster, and if Matthew Stafford is available,
they certainly can go the distance.
Speaker 9 (42:59):
All Right.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
A story popped up just the other day, and I
got to share it with you because it really it
kind of made me a head spind Really, a University
of Kansas received a three hundred million dollar gift from
a donor by the name of David Booth, and the
school announces, I think it was like Wednesday or Thursday,
the largest gift in school history, among one of the
largest in the history of college athletics. The first question
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is why on Earth? I guess he just loves Kansas.
Maybe he went there, his family went there. I don't know,
but you got to believe that you could probably feed
a small country, you know, rather than give money to
a school.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
But that's his deal. I'm gonna tell anybody what to
do with their money.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
So I don't like to listen to sports talk radio
when guys behind the microphone are telling people or telling ownership,
spend this sign this guy.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Now, it's not your money. Let him do what he
wants to do.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
I know that fans in Dallas want Jerry Jones to
sign Michael Parsons, and I know fans not Ey want
to see Trade Henderson gets signed. But I don't think
it's my place behind the microphone to tell Mike Brown
or Jerry Jones how to spend their money.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
You don't want to sign the guy, fine, is it wrong?
I think so? But you know it's it's not my money, right,
that's the way I feel.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
That's what you feel, So you don't. You don't care
about how they spend the money. You're just a loyal
fan that that doesn't have a stake in the team.
So whatever they do, you're good. So you're okay with Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
I question Jerry and Mike Brown not signing these guys.
I think it's crazy. I think it's crazy that a
guy may not want to play it because of that.
But I'm not going to stand on my head and
start scimming sign them getting the money. No, it's not
my money. It's not my like I would never tell
anybody what to do with their money. I don't think
it's right, but I think what he is doing for
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the fan base and for the image of the team,
both Jerry Jones and Mike Brown, I think it's wrong.
I think it just looks bad because they have the money.
Speaker 4 (44:41):
They do have it, Yeah, they have it, and they
should spend it. And it's weird to me that they
don't want to spend it. And I think some of
these owners realize this look his business, not whatever they
want to do, just enough to seduce everybody in and
then that's it. But that's not good enough, Like you
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should spend the money to field a winning team, because
if you build a winner, do you make even more money.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
That's why it doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Well, and again what doesn't make sense to me is
a guy like David Booth putting down three hundred million dollars.
I mean, if I had that kind of money, I
don't think I donated to school. I just I don't know.
I think I'd rather give it to people that need it.
I mean, maybe that's just me. But three hundred million
dollars is seventy five million is going to go towards
the second phase of a four hundred and forty eight
million dollar overhaul of the football stadium for the University
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of Kansas.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
I mean, I think it's great that Kansas has a
guy like this.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
But my question is this, I think maybe the NCAA
should put a cap on how much money donors or
anybody could give us school, because now Kansas has got
great facilities, more so than any other school maybe in
the conference.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
Don't you think there should be some sort of a
capping thing. No, okay, it's just.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
Not at all. I did all right, Why it's fair?
Speaker 2 (46:07):
You want to have an even playing field, you know,
I mean it was. It's a recruiting device. I mean,
now a kid goes out to Kansas and sees this
stadium with a great facility and great into locker room
whatever it may be, and you know, supposed to going
to another school. He sold on that because of the
money put in there.
Speaker 4 (46:26):
Have better lums do better stuff.
Speaker 3 (46:28):
You can tell me, what is that?
Speaker 4 (46:32):
I mean, Rudy, Pudy, you can't compete with Ohio State.
I mean that's you know, like have better lums and
be active when it comes to soliciting the money from
those alums who have success and find a way to incurp,
like you know, encourage them to come back and get back.
Speaker 3 (46:49):
So now I'm not with you on that. You're own
on your own on that one.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
Anything, All right, I'm on an island. There we go, Now,
I move along. Guy. I said that.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Coming up too the segment, this guy wants to play
and apparently he's not done yet, and we're talking about
the NFL wide receiver Odell Beckham Junior. He says he
wants to play again, and there were I guess fake
reports on social media that he retired. First of, how
in the hell does that happen? I mean a fake report.
You talked to the guy and he says, I want
to play now. They said there were fake reports, so
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much just sort the report that he's going to retire.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
I don't understand that at all. I mean, I.
Speaker 4 (47:25):
Mean sometimes people assume that it's over, but people have
said that he's been contacted by teams there's teams with
interest in him, which is Look, it's really amazing because he.
Speaker 3 (47:41):
Landed in what I thought was.
Speaker 4 (47:42):
Gonna be an ideal situation for him when he was
in Miami, but it just didn't work out.
Speaker 3 (47:46):
It'd be interesting to see which teams are there.
Speaker 4 (47:50):
Look, he's a serviceable number three, number four wide receiver
at this stage of his career. I would say it
depends on the money. You know, how much money is
a team willing to pay a veteran receiver to come
in and beat the number three.
Speaker 3 (48:02):
He can catch and do those things.
Speaker 4 (48:03):
But I mean, there's been a minute since he's been spectacular.
And some of that is due to the fact that
he towards ACL and that Super Bowl. But he really
helped the Rams back then. But man, you know, a
couple of years, a few years, that's a lifetime in
the NFL. I don't know if you'll ever be a
major contributor. But if you want some veteran experience since savvy,
maybe Obj can be your guy.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
Okay, he's thirty two years old. He has not played
a full season in six years. That's big, it really is.
And you talk about the Dolphins, he played for them
last year, but he only had nine catches. So you say,
there's a spot for him somewhere, and there are some
needs for some teams for at least a three guy.
And I looking right now with the Minnesota Vikings because
Justin Jefferson right now, he's got a hamstring and that's
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kept him out, so there's a possibility there. And then
Jordan Addison he's gonna miss the first three games because
he's suspended, so maybe the Vikings will pick him up.
That's a possibility, right, So I'm looking at some of
the teams.
Speaker 4 (48:58):
That, oh, yeah, you know what, that's not a bad
spot because Kevin O'Connell I think he was with the
Rams back then when Odell had the thing. OBJ has
a relationship with Justin Jefferson, obviously the LSU Ties.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
Maybe that'll be a spot.
Speaker 4 (49:15):
Whether locker room could absorb his big personality, that's something
that you have to at least discuss. Not saying that
he's a bad guy, but you just have to there's
a lot of tension that normally comes along with OBJ
stepping in the building. But not a bad sign, particularly
because young quarterback JJ McCarthy. You can eed weapons you
gonna lose Addison could be a good fit.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
All right, what about bringing it back for the Giants?
But I think the Giants fans would love that. Plus
you got two receivers on it, the elite neighbors. Okay,
he's that the number one guy, Darius Slayton, But other
than that, there's really not much depth. I think the
Giants may go for him. What do you think Giants?
Speaker 4 (49:53):
He may want that. I don't know if day Ball.
I don't know if day Ball wants that. I think
he wants a nice, quiet locker room, doesn't want a
lot of attention on him and those things that will
put the attention on him for sure.
Speaker 3 (50:07):
Don't know if that's what he wants.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
Okay, if it's not the Giants, let's go for the Jets,
because after Garrett Wilson, I don't know who they have
as a receiver.
Speaker 3 (50:15):
They don't have anybody, you know.
Speaker 4 (50:17):
But once again, do you want to bring that in
to the Jets, like new coach Aaron Glynn, do you
know Obj well enough to make sure that he's gonna
be positive and supportive of the new play and the
new agenda. Those things have to be vetted out because
veterans are not inclined to change their way. So you
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have to make sure that you know how he operates
and gets down as a way that you want your
team to operate.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
Okay, you're talking about veterans are changing their way. Let's
talk about the veteran himself. Aaron Rodgers with the Pittsburgh Steels.
He's got DK Metcalf. After that, who do they have.
I think here's the guy that if they could go
for Aaron Rodgers, they could go for OBJ. I think
there is a possibility maybe in Pittsburgh. Perhaps, I don't know,
And I think that if Aaron Rodgers would want him,
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they'll get him biggest. Obviously, he hadn't picked the Jets
team last year, didn't he?
Speaker 4 (51:13):
I mean he did. I don't know if Pittsburgh signs
up for that. And this is why Roman Wilson is there,
guy second year player from Michigan. They have Robert Woods
already in the building, a quieter guy or whatever you
think you have to You just got to make sure
in terms of blending personalities, that is good.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
Now.
Speaker 4 (51:32):
Jaylen Ramsey who they brought in Ken vauchram he was
on the other side of deep of that team when
the Rams had OBJ, maybe he could say that he
would be the perfect fit and those things look OBJ
said he had multiple options, you know, or people that
around him have said that multiple teams have contacted him.
He has to or he will likely look at the
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situation in which team gives him opportunity to get closer
to another Super Bowl. Rate.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
Okay, but we do a great Minnesota as a possibility.
I'm gonna throw on another one, which I think is
a real possibility as well, the San Francisco forty nine ers,
because right now, Brandon Ayuk, I mean he's gone, right,
he's with the ACL there anyway, he's.
Speaker 1 (52:14):
Out of there. They got George Kittle.
Speaker 2 (52:16):
Christian McCaffrey's never healthy, he never plays a full season.
So I think the forty nine ers would love him.
Speaker 4 (52:23):
Uh let's see, how would he fit? I mean, he
could fit in there.
Speaker 3 (52:32):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (52:33):
I don't know like the way the Niners fancy themselves
or the way they're positioning themselves.
Speaker 3 (52:39):
They just moved off of Debo.
Speaker 4 (52:41):
It doesn't seem like they're embracing a lot of I
don't say glitz and glamour when it comes to their
locker room.
Speaker 3 (52:50):
I don't know if he's a great fit. I don't
know if they.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
I mean the decimated even before the season starts. They're
really hurting.
Speaker 3 (52:59):
Really hurt.
Speaker 4 (52:59):
But you don't va from me standard like, because what
will what would crush him? As if Kyle shana here
knows early. Yeah, this dude isn't for us, not for me.
It's not what I'm looking for. Just got to make
sure he fits into the environment.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
All right.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
Now, I want to move into the meat and potatoes
of Bucket Brooks, which is the NFL dot Com. I
love it, you know, I read it all the time.
And we went from offense now we're going to defense.
I want to know how you did this. You pick
the top defensive fronts this week and I was shocked
with number one before we get to that, But how
do you this? This is difficult to me. I couldn't
do it. I mean, you played the game, so obviously
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you have a different eye than I.
Speaker 1 (53:39):
Would ever have.
Speaker 2 (53:40):
But still in all, it's just difficult, especially at this
time of the season. It's easy to pick it up,
you know, after the first month maybe, but to.
Speaker 1 (53:48):
Pick it up before they play, I think that's tough.
Speaker 3 (53:52):
Oh it's tough, But that's why we do it.
Speaker 4 (53:54):
We don't run it right from like tough stuff like
hard things are hard. So it was hard to pick
three teams, teams that you really feel great about their personnel,
then the tactics utilized to maximize them. But I feel
good about the three teams on the list.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
I can't believe that you have the New York Football
Giants as the number one top defensive front Sell me
on that. How did that happen? I mean, Dexter Lawrence
is there right. I just didn't think they were that good.
Speaker 4 (54:23):
I mean, if you just look at them on paper,
they have everything that you want upfront. And I didn't
fully explain this in the piece, but you go back
to licking the blueprint that the Giants have used to win.
It has always been about their front four being able
to get it done. So going back to when they
wanted most recently with Tom Coffin and those guys, you
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think about Michael straighthand ocihu Manure, Justin Tuck, matthias Ki
and Nuka, those four guys being able to create that
NASCAR front when he got after the quarterback knocked off
Tom Brady twice. Let's go back to the Bill Parcells,
Bill Belichi Days, Lawrence Taylor, Carl Banks, Leonard Marshall up front,
they're able to dominate Jim Burt in the middle. This
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is what the Giants do when they're loaded on the front.
Speaker 1 (55:10):
Thank you for a second.
Speaker 2 (55:11):
I'm going to go back to when I was a
kid to the Alley Sherman Coach Jays when they had
Sam Huff, Jim Katkavich and Andy Ropostellia front.
Speaker 3 (55:19):
I mean, I can't do that because I have to
see it.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
I watched the Giants then.
Speaker 4 (55:24):
Yeah, that was that was on those those tapes and
films that are all jumpy on the TV.
Speaker 3 (55:29):
I could make it.
Speaker 1 (55:30):
Yeah, black and quarterback in Yeah.
Speaker 4 (55:33):
I mean, okay, I appreciate that, Like I can go
back to Frank Gifford days. But they're like, you're way
way beyond my uh my knowledgement back then.
Speaker 3 (55:42):
I just little.
Speaker 4 (55:44):
You were a little dumper back then. You're a little
dumper running around watching that was yep, But.
Speaker 1 (55:51):
That's what they did.
Speaker 2 (55:52):
You're exactly right, So you think, I mean, is that
is that common in football that they just take from
years past?
Speaker 1 (55:59):
This is our stuf. The Bears kind of do that too.
They've always been a defensive mind the team.
Speaker 3 (56:04):
I mean, they've always been their best when they've been that.
Speaker 4 (56:06):
Thinking about the Pittsburgh Steelers and what the Pittsburgh Steelers are,
they're defined by the Steel curt no matter what.
Speaker 3 (56:12):
They do, who they are.
Speaker 4 (56:14):
They never deviate away from that, particularly when it's been
a championship formula for you. Nah, you never go away
from that. That's the blueprint because you've seen that work.
That's why it always stays front of mine. Because of
the success that you had previously.
Speaker 1 (56:32):
Mm hm. And you like the Giants number.
Speaker 2 (56:34):
I mean, if they could get some sort of an
offensive going, you think they could be somewhat of a fight.
Speaker 1 (56:40):
Could they be PROI plus five hundred this year?
Speaker 3 (56:43):
You think I could be.
Speaker 4 (56:44):
I mean the division is tough, but you just never
know how it's gonna go. Normally, somebody comes back to
the pack. There's always surprised when we thinking about surprise teams.
You have to be great in something. The Giants potentially
could be great on defense if they unlocked that front,
that front four and they get after the passer. I'm
do a card as a problem. Dexon Lawrence is a
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minutes on the inside. You got two speed guys on
the outside. Brian Burns came on Thibodeau. They have talent,
you know, if they can run the football and take
care of the football. Because remember just a few years ago,
Brian da Bol had this team at eleven to five
winning a playoff game on the road in Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (57:24):
It's Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (57:24):
He understands, he understands how to play winning football. He's
done that. Don't let the two bad years take away
from what he did his first season. He's good enough
to get the team in to the winner's circle if
he has enough talent.
Speaker 3 (57:38):
They got enough talent to be able to win some games.
Speaker 2 (57:40):
Okay, now this scares me a little bit because they're
number two team. I always show was a tremendous offensive
ball ball club and now you're talking about the second
best defense and that'll be the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 3 (57:52):
Yeah in Minnesota. Man, they loaded.
Speaker 4 (57:54):
They came back after a great year last year. You know,
they messed it up the last two games season. That
kind of looms large and everyone is worried about the quarterback.
But defensively, chaos will ensue because Brian Floores has the
kind of personnel to create problems. Uh, they go and
get Javon Hargraves Jonathan Allen in the offseason. They already
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had Andrew van Ginkel. Uh, they had Jonathan Gynard Grenard.
Speaker 1 (58:22):
And then you have those two guys.
Speaker 4 (58:25):
I mean they're sack artists, right, and then you got
to nose tackle and Harrison Phillips, who's a problem. They're
loaded and Brian floyd is will change the picture behind
that defense. They will bring pressure to create one on
one matchups. Uh. Yeah, they're they're they're problematic, They're a
tough they're a tough team to deal with.
Speaker 1 (58:42):
I think they're front four could be better than the Giants.
Speaker 3 (58:46):
Could be.
Speaker 1 (58:47):
I think could be. Well, we'll see could be.
Speaker 3 (58:50):
We'll see how they played out.
Speaker 1 (58:51):
But yeah, they three.
Speaker 2 (58:53):
I'm shocked again because said I'm always looking at the
offensive side of the ball on this club as well.
Number three you got to Houston Texans.
Speaker 4 (58:59):
I really Yeah, maybe I've been Texas too long, but
agetown putting it down Will Anderson, Danil Hunter, both of
those guys they commnd for like twenty three sacks. They
get after it. They can hunt the quarterback. Uh, they
have some veterans on the inside who have Danilko Archry,
somebody helps Sheldon Rankins, who helps Mario Edwards.
Speaker 3 (59:22):
I mean they have some veteran pieces to also.
Speaker 2 (59:26):
Ryan's dad coach. You said, a defensive minded coaches Demo.
Speaker 4 (59:29):
Yeah, super aggressive, really solid, does a great job, great job.
Speaker 1 (59:36):
Of ta take a sip of tea that I think
you need to.
Speaker 4 (59:40):
I mean, I gotta keep the sentences short. They gotta
keep the sentences short. But they are really solid up
up front. When you think about H Town being able
to get after it, they get after it because Demiico
Rans is aggressive on defense and we talked about their front,
but they also have some guys in the back end
that can help them mask some of those issues too.
Speaker 2 (59:58):
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I got to run this by. You know, it's told
about preseason football for a second. And I turned the
game on and after like the first couple of period
back really after the maybe the first two or three sets,
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I'm turning it. I watched Atlanta the other night against Tennessee,
and I have no idea who's playing right. I'm kind
of switching over, believe it or not, following baseball down
the home stretch.
Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
Maybe I'm nuts. What about you, because I know you're
a big Dodger fan.
Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
Look, I'm following the Dodgers.
Speaker 4 (01:01:24):
There's a lot of conversation about San Diego de Padres
taken over.
Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
But the Dodgers, in typical.
Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
Dodgers fashion, when it's time to step up and get
it done, they're getting it done.
Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
I hear what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
But to me, I mean, right now, I think baseball.
To me, maybe I'm wrong. It's a little more interesting
and more meaningful than preseason football because I have no
idea who's playing. But I will watch Washington Cincinnati tomorrow night.
I'll do that, and I kind of glanced a little
bit back and forth. But you know, after the first quarter,
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really and truly, you have no idea what's going on.
It's it's for the coaches. It's it's an evaluation. Guys
are trying out and they want to see it. But
as you told me last week, if there's a fifty
three man roster, you know probably forty five guys that
already decided who's going.
Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
To be on the team.
Speaker 4 (01:02:10):
Yeah, one hundred percent. You already kind of know. You
go in with some battles in mind. You may have
three or four battles that you're paying close attention to.
But most of the team is already said, So you're
trying to finalize those four or five battles in which
guys are gonna make your practice squad while also having
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an eye on the waiver wire and looking around the
league to see if there's anyone elsewhere that could come
in and help you beyond what the current personnel you have.
Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
In the building can do.
Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
Okay, Now, I said coming upo the seven that we
got bad news for Joe, I would say, Joe, that's
Joe Burrow.
Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
What do I mean by that?
Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
I'm going back to the NFL dot Com, which you
wrote for this week. Now you got the top defensive
backfields and he plays two of the three of them
twice this year, and one of us to Baltimore Ravens.
I had no idea that Baltimore Ravens backfield is that
strong of that good. I know they got Marlon Humphrey,
but he's been there like the ages there, the dog ages.
All right, you got to believe eventually he's going to
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slow down. But other than that, who did I have?
I didn't think they were that good, the Baltimore Ravens
the backfield the least.
Speaker 4 (01:03:17):
No, but what they did is They picked up Yarry
Alexander off the scrappyet from the Green Bay Packers, and
even though it didn't end well for Alexander, you talk
about a guy who has a Pro Bowl pedigree, someone
who can cover and defend at a high level, can
play mannor zone. Gives them the flexibility to do a
few different things. You've alluded to. Marlon Humphrey, who's kicked
inside as a nickel, has a great knack and sense
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for knocking the ball away.
Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
Nate Wiggins came on as a young player with speed.
Speaker 4 (01:03:45):
Cal Hamilton is a force in the box, but last
year they had to remove him from the boss because
they had issues at free safety. Well, now you go
and get Malachi Sparks to come over from Georgia. This
is a team that has loaded high IQ Zachndary will
give zachary Or a lot of freedom in flexibility to
come at people in a variety of different ways.
Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
You know, they didn't miss a step when they lost
a defensive coordinator, did they, Baltimore?
Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
They really didn't look.
Speaker 4 (01:04:13):
I will say this, it's not the same because Mike
McDonald was terrific. Zachary Or's young former player who's learning
how to call the defense. That's why they had some
old heads kind of coming to the building as coaches.
Chuck Pagano is back as a defensive assistant, senior defensive assistant,
helping out doing some things to make sure that or
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has a sounding board and that'll help him in the
second year calling plays because it's a lot thrown at you,
but the talent is there. They'll eventually get to tack
this up to par. Because this team, the.
Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
Baltimore Ravens then the most talented team in football.
Speaker 4 (01:04:46):
Now the excuses are dwindling as far as why this
team hasn't gone to a Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
It's kind of now never heading into twenty twenty five
for this unit.
Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
You think they're the best team in football. I mean,
I'm with you on that.
Speaker 4 (01:04:59):
I really on paper, On paper, they're the most talented team.
I won't know if they're the best team. And two
we get into the postseason and I'm able to get
a sense of their emotional maturity.
Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
That is the thing that is held them back.
Speaker 4 (01:05:14):
They are too emotional in the biggest games and it
has led to them imploding in those games. AFC Championship games,
Divisional round games if they can control their emotions and
just let their talent overwhelm people. This is sports champ
right in front of us. But it's the emotional part.
Speaker 3 (01:05:33):
They to control it.
Speaker 4 (01:05:36):
The coaches, but also the players have to recognize that
it's an issue. The players have to recognize that in
these moments, they gotta they gotta walk away. They got
to lock in and focus and keep the main thing
the main thing.
Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
Not many people are talking about it, and I think
that he's done a pretty good job of like going
under the radar. But they lost an offensive weapon in
Justin Tucker.
Speaker 4 (01:05:55):
Uh, they did, But he's coming off a disappointing year,
you know, like and look at something standable given what
he was in broad in and what he was dealing with.
Like most things, what happens off the field can impact
what you do on the field, and it was clearly
impacting him because he hadn't been the guy that I
snapped the table for, pounded the table for MVP consideration
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in the past. He just wasn't the same player. But yeah,
the kicking game has always been solid for them. They
need to make sure their young kicker can come in
and he can be nails like Justin Tucker has been
for his entire career.
Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
All right, we move on on the number two team.
As far as the backfields concern, it's unreal. You got
them as offense, night got them in defense as well.
The Houston Texans with Derek Stingley Junior, first team All
Pro last year's a cover corner. I didn't think they
were that good either, but you got him down there.
Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:06:49):
No, they're good because their talented Derek Stingley Junior got
paid in the offseason. I mean got paid like significant
money like last year. He's lived up to the hype
as a top pick. And so you have a lockdown
corner on one side. You have a versatile Swiss Army
knife type interior defender in Jalen Peatrie slot playing the
deep post, in the box, blitz whatever you want to see.
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They have those guys, and then beyond that they have
some intriguing players. Jimmy Warre can be a player if
he can take care of his stuff off the field,
Camary Lassiter.
Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
They just have a really good team and they play
well in this game.
Speaker 4 (01:07:26):
Behind.
Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
But we talked about a top three front.
Speaker 4 (01:07:28):
So the Houston Texans defensively, man, they get people nightmares.
Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
It's unreal. Now, I said, I feel a bit for
Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
I mean we talked about the Bothmore Ravens, who knew
the Pittsburgh Steelers right now. They got Joey Porter Junior
for sure, but they got those trades they made. They
got Jalen Ramsey from the Dolphins. So the Steelers gonna
be tough. They're gonna be tough. I mean, the whole
thing with the Steelers right off preseason was state Aaron
Rodgers situation, and nobody was talking about defense. But let's
talk about that defense right now. Because you got them
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as number three. As far as your corner, what is
a concern.
Speaker 4 (01:08:02):
Yeah, Andy, I can tell you talked to Mike Toomland
last week before they played the Jaguars, spend some significant
time talking to him about the defense and those things.
And they're really excited about Jalen Ramsey coming over. And
what Jalen Ramsey does is he gives them a chess
piece to utilize in the defensive backfield. They can play
them outside of the corner, they can play him in
the slot as a nickel, they can play him in
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the post as a deep safety. And what that allows
you to do is to match up better with these teams.
They also brought in Darius Slay, another high end cover corner.
And those two guys, Darius Lay and Jalen Ramsey, they're
mentoring Joey Porter Junior, who has the potential to be
a premiere quarterback one. So those three guys allowed the
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Pittsburgh Steels to play more man demand and get after
and then you got some veteran safeties back there, Deshaun
Elliott being one that they can cover in the back end,
they can protect the middle. This is a team that
is ready to go behind that past rush with TJ.
Watt and some of the other guys, they're gonna get
after it. And so now being able to play more
man demand to go with the zone concepts, the zone
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blitz pressures that they've traditionally done in the past, this
is a challenging team to deal with.
Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
You know, coming into the segment, has mentioned I said
that this is bad news for Joe Burrow, and I
really believe it probably is.
Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
I mean, especially with the numbers he put it up
last year. Yeah, So if I'm.
Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
Joe Burrow, this is what I'm doing right now. I'm
looking at this and I'm concerned. But I'm also saying
to myself, Man, I wish we had those players. That's
what he's saying right now. I'm concern How am I
gonna beat these guys number one and number two? I
wish they were on my team.
Speaker 4 (01:09:42):
I mean, you're not lying. He should be concerned. It
is a problem. It is something that you want to see. Man,
how are we gonna get How we gonna get over
the hull? How do we really get past this?
Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
Guys?
Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
Really we're gonna do? How were we gonna beat these guys? What?
Speaker 4 (01:09:54):
What?
Speaker 7 (01:09:54):
What?
Speaker 4 (01:09:55):
What's going to happen for us to have success? What
is going to need to happen for us to have success.
It's gonna have to be a lot of offensive firepower,
a lot of fireworks coming from that end, and they're
gonna have to hold off for dear life, because defensively,
Domingos can't match up with those other teams. Talked about
the Ravens, we talked about the Steelers. Yeah, it's a problem.
Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
You know what the key is, honestly and kind of
figured it out. Why the running game is so valuable.
You have to have long offensive drives to keep your
defense off the field.
Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
That's what you have to do. And for some reason
a the Bengals running game has never really been that strong.
Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
I guess the less great run of the hat was
Corey Dillon really and then more than that, they strike
hard and fast, you know with Jamar Chase, and they
go for the long ball and that's what they do.
So they may be on the field, but they maybe
they have like a five to six maybe seven minute drive,
and that's basically it. You need to have a drive
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at eleven twelve minutes like a running game with the
old steal of teams used to have that just hit
the rock and just run. And when you don't have
that long drive, your defense is on the field, then
you're in trouble.
Speaker 4 (01:11:12):
Yeah, they have to play a little more what we
call possession control it with their offense. Their offense will
be their best defense, not only because of the prolific
nature of their offense, but by literally possessing the ball,
playing keep away, being able to get up early and
just hold on to it. A lot of pressure on
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Joe Burrow to play that way, and the reason why
there's so much pressure on him to play that way
it doesn't require him to necessarily be perfect, but man,
it puts a lot on him in terms of being
able to get it done consistently from the pocket, relying
on the weapons to make plays, converting the critical situations.
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Just a lot, just a lot that you have to
consider when you're trying to mask a defense that is
atally horrible.
Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
Okay, I could see the Ravens winning that division. There's
no doubt in my mind they probably will, all right,
But the Steelers last year, I was shocked that they
finished five hundred, But I have even more shocked. Didn't
they lose their last five games? That that was the
killer for them? But they just went down the tubes
the last five games. I could see the Steelers making
the playoffs this year.
Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
Do you agree? I really can.
Speaker 3 (01:12:24):
Look.
Speaker 4 (01:12:24):
I think the Steelers said their eyes on bigger prize
than just the playoff t shirt and hat. This is
a team that fancies itself as a Super Bowl team,
even though no one on the outside views them as such. Right,
They're looking to get their edge back. Yeah, They're looking
to get their edge back. Some of the people that
they brought in. They wanted to bring in people that
had not only Super Bowl experience. You know, they wanted
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some guys who had that prickly personality that has always
been a hallmark of the Pittsburgh Steelers when you think
about the great Steelers teams, their little ornery, their little
feisty Mike Tomlin likes that kind of edge within that
and everyone knows. And I hadn't thought about it until
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having conversations with not only Tomland but several coaches. The
Stealers are their best when they are a bit of
a disruptive. Can tankerous butch?
Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
Can you possibly? And this is big now I'm gonna
remember this. I may even write it down. Can you
see the Bengals not making the playoffs again this year?
Speaker 4 (01:13:30):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (01:13:30):
Yeah, I can't see it.
Speaker 4 (01:13:32):
Defensively, they have a problem, you know they they it's
a problem when you can't stop people on defense. No
matter how much I talk about offensive ball, it comes
down to stops. Can you get stops? Can you control
the game?
Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
Yeah? It matters, I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
I mean I could see Pittsburgh and Baltimore battling it out,
and you know I don't see Cleveland doing much. But still,
in all I did without that defensive strength, not getting
any better in Cincinnati. I could see them maybe faltering again.
I mean, they came on.
Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
Strong at the end, but it was too late. It
was too late, it really was.
Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
I just it will be devastating for Joe Burrow and
I feel for the guy, I really do. I just
the numbers that he put up with Jamar Chase are unbelievable.
If you look at those numbers and then you find out,
after looking at the numbers that they didn't make the
playoffs last year, you gotta scratch your head and say,
what happened to that team?
Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
It's just it's an amazing situation, it really is. I
don't believe it. Sometimes I just don't say it.
Speaker 4 (01:14:37):
I mean, you have to contribute more money to the cost.
You're gonna have to give the owner more money so
they can pay Joe Burrow and company.
Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
That's what they did exactly right, all right. He's Bucky Brooks.
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Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
Now there's a fork in the road and you have
two choices. Yay ornay and you know what they're next?
Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
Yeah you Nay time Right here on Fox Sports Sunday,
he's Bucking Brooks and Andy Form. We are live from
the Fox Sports Radio studios. And I say, right now,
it's about eleven minutes before the top of the hour.
It's time for yay or nay. That's okay, let's rock
those brains, gentlemen. These stories needed.
Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
As I think we need a ruling on this.
Speaker 9 (01:15:37):
It's yay or nay.
Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
Ld Are you ready?
Speaker 4 (01:15:42):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
I ready, born.
Speaker 10 (01:15:44):
Ready, it is yay. I am ready for this. So
I got one for us guys. Here's where I'm starting
now with. So yesterday, preseason, we had the Browns Ers
and the Eagles. Dylan Gabriel apparently on field, was interviewed
and was saying that, uh, they're are entertainers and their
competitors and his job is to compete and.
Speaker 8 (01:16:03):
That's what he's gonna do.
Speaker 10 (01:16:05):
Apparently people thought he was taking, you know, a shot
at Shadoor Sanders, but he clarified his comments saying that
the entertainers is the media just to say that.
Speaker 8 (01:16:15):
Do you believe him on that? Yeay or nay? Andy Furman,
he's a liar, He's a liar.
Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
I don't believe him.
Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
He's afraid of the Shadoor Sanders and he should be.
But Shadoor Sanders is better than him.
Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
How's that?
Speaker 3 (01:16:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:16:31):
I think he's misrepresenting what he was saying, because I
don't know why you even bring that up in a
sideline interview. To me, it did appear like a direct
shot at Shader.
Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
I don't want to.
Speaker 4 (01:16:41):
Read too much into it, but it didn't make sense
about entertainers and competitors. He absolutely appeared to be taking
a shot at his competitor.
Speaker 10 (01:16:48):
Yes, yes, all right, well all right, Honestly I agree
with both of you on that. I think he was too. Well,
we're gonna go here, We're gonna go to baseball. So
the Milwaukee Brewers won their twelve consecutive game last Wednesday,
beating the Pirates last night, fourteenth last night, and there
we go.
Speaker 8 (01:17:03):
How about that?
Speaker 10 (01:17:04):
So they beat the Pirates twelve to five, right in
the Milwaukee based restaurant Chaine, George Webb promised free hamburgers later.
Of course, it was the club's best streak since twenty
eighteen and one of only three times in company history
George Webb had to serve up some burgers.
Speaker 8 (01:17:23):
Yeah or nay on this, Bucky.
Speaker 3 (01:17:24):
Brooks, I'm yay on it.
Speaker 4 (01:17:26):
Like incentivizing people is always positive, and so George Webb
dig into that pocket and get those burgers.
Speaker 3 (01:17:34):
Bro I dig it.
Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
You know, I'm gonna say yay.
Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
As I said early on today, I didn't usually tell
people how to spend that money, but if you're going
to be a soul, Bold has to say I'm gonna
give out free Hamburgers. If they went told straight, well,
pay up, pay up, George, pay up.
Speaker 10 (01:17:49):
Well. Speaking of paying up, here everybody. So Taylor Swift
use the Travis and Jason Kelsey New Heights podcast to
announce her twelfth studio album, The Life of a Showgirl.
It was a Tuesday at twelve twelve am Eastern time.
Speaker 8 (01:18:06):
Yeah or nay on this?
Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
Andy Nay because you know, honestly, it's disgusting already, Really
do you have to? I mean, that's how big the
NFL is everybody says how big Taylor Swift is. No,
she had a latch on to the NFL to get
her announcement out there. I know it's Travis and they're
in love and all that stuff is still do it
on your own. Don't put you like a parasite to
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Travis Kelsey.
Speaker 1 (01:18:30):
That's what you are.
Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
And you know what, I'll be honest with you. I
knew those guys from the University of Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
I like Jason better. I mean, you've been you've been
a bit of a hater.
Speaker 4 (01:18:40):
If you saw any of the podcasts, you would know
that they are madly in love. This was not something
where she is she's taking advantage of poor Travis like
this is one where she was a bigger star than
he was. To me, this is about this is about
her just using it the platform to make both of
their lives better, because the more she does on his stuff,
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the bigger he comes becomes as a star.
Speaker 8 (01:19:05):
Who's the woman I'm so with I'm so with you
on that, Bucky. I agree, she's a bigger start stop.
Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
It's true she had to use the NFL pick of
the name.
Speaker 8 (01:19:15):
Out the NFL how to use her, I believe, But
here we go.
Speaker 10 (01:19:18):
So next up, Mattel and Venus Williams now have a
new barbie for the Inspiring Women series. Venus often to
select her win at the two thousand and seven Wimbledon
Attorney why it was the first year the men's and
women's singles champions earned equal prize money at Wimbledon. It
caused that Williams champion long before her win. Yeah your
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nay on this, Bucky Brooks.
Speaker 3 (01:19:42):
Look, man, I think it's great.
Speaker 4 (01:19:43):
Whenever Serena is involved, it is always going to be
a big deal, and because she's giving back and using
her platform, it's positive.
Speaker 3 (01:19:49):
So yeah, I'm big on this.
Speaker 1 (01:19:52):
I say yay.
Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
I love the Williams sisters and it's about time Venus
got some play because it's always Serena.
Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
So I like Venus.
Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
I'm Venus got to do that, and it's really a
wonderful thing that she did that, because she did champion
that equal prize money and she got it done, so
God bless you, Venus.
Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
Willi's good move. But I'm not buying a barbie. I'm
not buying it.
Speaker 9 (01:20:13):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
I'm not interested in Barbie dolls. But if I was,
I would I would buy it. How's that all right?
Speaker 10 (01:20:20):
Anything else that that was the last one? Anything on
your mind? I think when maybe they should make an
Andy Furman Barbie doll.
Speaker 8 (01:20:28):
Let's see.
Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
Yeah, and they could throw pins in it. That's what
they could do.
Speaker 8 (01:20:32):
It comes to its own wsinator.
Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
You think so, I know so an autographic wizinator. That's
a good dude. You could have that little personalized one.
Speaker 8 (01:20:42):
It's got your voice on it too.
Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
Now there we go.
Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
Okay, the wrong people are being punished. Will tell you
why and so much more. Fox butts Son They coming
up next. Okay, there's only one group that gets punished.
Here I will tell you who they are just about
a minute. Good morning, everybody. This is Fox Bort Sunday.
I'm Andy Frem and my partner Bucky Brooks and went
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Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
And I'll tell you right now, I'm happy and I'm
glad you picked that for the play of the day
because I don't like Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 2 (01:22:17):
I don't like what he had to say about Shador Sanders,
And you know, what. I'm glad you got picked off.
And I like the underdog. I like Chador. I'm a
Shador Sanders fan, and he's gonna play before you'll ever
see the light of day. Dylan Gabriel, how do you
like that? Stick that in your helmet and smoke it.
Speaker 3 (01:22:36):
I mean, that's a little aggressive, dear Indy, but I
get it.
Speaker 4 (01:22:41):
I mean the commentary was not great in terms of
the entertainer competitor quote. Look, he was solid parts of
the game, descriptive part of the game early thirteen for eighteen.
You know, Paul was getting out of his hand, let
a touchdown, drift, but he had to pick six, have
another fumble, have some other things, and it was his
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first action.
Speaker 1 (01:23:04):
That's about your door if you reap between the lines.
Speaker 4 (01:23:06):
Yeah, I mean, but that's that's that. That is what
it is like you have competitors. Sometimes things can come
out your mouth that you you you regret and you like,
I just did wish that you Yeah, you just wish
that you had kind of maybe handled the situation better.
But we'll see, man, they'll get on the same page.
And look, it's gonna be testy when you have a
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third and the fifth round pick. That's why you normally
don't bring two quarterbacks in in the same draft class.
Speaker 3 (01:23:33):
We saw where RG three and Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 2 (01:23:34):
Wait, I remember a couple of years the Browns drafted
a quarterback on the first and the third round.
Speaker 1 (01:23:38):
Remember, yeah, I believe it is.
Speaker 3 (01:23:42):
Yes, yeah, it's not. It's not ideal. It's not ideal
when you go about that.
Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
But your opinion counts.
Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
And I'm going to ask you who's the better quarterback
who will have a better career in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (01:23:54):
Dylan Gabriel or should Door Sanders.
Speaker 4 (01:23:57):
Look, it's hard to say based on so many factors
that go into it, but if you ask me, I
had Shudur Sanders.
Speaker 3 (01:24:02):
Rated much higher than Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 4 (01:24:04):
Doesn't mean that I'm right yet, but just the satisfactor,
the talent factor, their notable differences. For Dylan Gabriel, there's
a path for him to be successful in the league,
but it's harder. The odds are stacked against a shorter quarterback,
and giving his stature as a sub six foot quarterback,
you just don't see many of them succeed in the league.
Speaker 2 (01:24:25):
You're exactly right, Okay, who's the last good one? Maybe well,
fran Tarkenton was Chrinis Wilder was.
Speaker 3 (01:24:32):
Tell about Doug Flutie.
Speaker 2 (01:24:34):
Doug Fluteye, frind Tarkington, I don't remember how short these
guys were to all they were, but they do make
a big deal about arm strength, hand size and height.
They do make a big deal about that. But I
was kind of tough on Dylan, So I'm gonna lighten
up right now. I'm gonna make everybody who's a Raider
fan kind of happy right now because of the playlist
out of Ashton genty okay, seven carriages for thirty three yards,
(01:24:56):
and everybody's going bonkers now as far as the Las
Vegas Raiser, because yeah, it's okay, okay, they lost to
the forty nine ers twenty two to nineteen. But you
know what, now you got something to root for, right
That's what basically preseason is, you know, dreams and hopes,
that's what it is for everybody, really, so good for
them and also for the Giant fans. Jackson Darth he
was pretty good fourteen to sixteen hundred and thirty seven
(01:25:18):
yards a touchdown. As the Giants rolled over to judge
thirty one to twelve. The question I have here is
how long is it gonna be until he plays? Because
if I'm Russell Wilson, I worry. I'm a little worried.
I'm looking over my shoulder.
Speaker 3 (01:25:30):
Now, you can't look at your show. You're Russe Wilson.
Speaker 4 (01:25:31):
You've been this game long enough to know the only
thing that Russell can control is his performance. He has
to put his focus on that because if I'm Russell Wilson,
to wait that, I think the more that I win,
the more likely I'm gonna stay in the lineup.
Speaker 3 (01:25:46):
I just need to win. And that's what it comes
down to. If they win, he stays.
Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
Period, We'll see how long I mean, I you know, if.
Speaker 4 (01:25:56):
They win he stays, they're not gonna they're not gonna
dump them. If he's winning. If he's losing, now that's
all that's look that he opens up the door.
Speaker 2 (01:26:05):
You know, here's a story we never hear about. We
hear about the coaches. They never comment about the quarterback controversy.
They don't like to talk about it. I get that,
and the quarterbacks themselves they say I'm a team guy,
like Joe Flacco says he's helping the other guys. I
get that through it sounds good. You know, it's really
a lot of pablem because it's not true. I want
to know from you because you've been there, done that.
(01:26:25):
In the locker room. There's got to be a segment
of that locker room that is ya oh, nay for
one quarterback or the other. In Cleveland, there are some
saying I'd like to see sho Door get the job,
or someone is saying I want to see Dylan get
the job. You forget about Flackhougus. Certainly as of now
he does, but is not the case. You're on an
NFL team, you've seen that. I'm sure maybe you were
(01:26:46):
even part of it.
Speaker 4 (01:26:49):
I mean, like the locker room would always tell you
which quarterback is worthy of being the starting quarterback. They
may not verbally, but the way they respond to certain
guys your job as a coach.
Speaker 3 (01:26:58):
You got to look at the clues.
Speaker 4 (01:27:01):
If they're not as forward like forthcoming with who they prefer,
you just got to look at the cues. Look at
how they gravitate towards one quarterback versus the other. Look
at the way the offense performs with one guy in
compared to the other. All of those factors come into
it because it's the chemistry experiment. As much as we
talk about the quarterback and the talent, it is the
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intangibles that set the good ones apart from the great ones.
And if you have the right intangibles, the right mix,
you're gonna have a lot of success being a lesser
talented guy.
Speaker 1 (01:27:34):
I hear what you're saying. Okay, I hear right now.
But Sudor's going to get his day too.
Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
Bet he was injured and he didn't play this week,
but because he had the oblique deal, so maybe he'll
play next week.
Speaker 1 (01:27:44):
Hopefully we'll see what happens there. And look, he got
a break. I mean sometimes it's luck.
Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
I mean, if they didn't have all those injuries in
Cleveland with the quarterbacks, probably wouldn't seen the light of day.
Speaker 1 (01:27:53):
So he got a little lucky too, And you got
to take advantage of it, you know.
Speaker 3 (01:27:57):
That's the main thing.
Speaker 4 (01:27:57):
No matter what we talk about, no matter how any
reps you get, you got to make the most of them.
So if you only get two reps, you get better
make sure those two reps are perfect, so you hope
the next time you get four reps and you begin
to stack positive days. Good days on top of good days,
and eventually you get to where you want to be.
Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
Right talking about Grace, Let's talk about the old time
leading Russia, Emmitt Smith and what would a talk show
be in this time of the year without talking about
Michael Parsons. We haven't talked about Michael Parsons yet, but EMMITTT.
Smith said he had his own contract to dispute with
Cowboys owner Jerry Jones way back in nineteen ninety three.
And he said it wasn't really a holdout because he
(01:28:36):
didn't have a contract. He left leverage. Bless you, bless you,
my friend Michael parsonsho's holding out with Dallas. He does
have leverage. Okay, what's the difference, Bucket Brooks both want
more money and them it had the position over Parsons.
That running back position obviously was a little more glamorous.
I would think that what Parsons plays well.
Speaker 4 (01:28:55):
The difference was emmittt was a free agent. He wasn't
signed to anybody. So Parsons is on the contract.
Speaker 3 (01:29:01):
Misa.
Speaker 4 (01:29:01):
Parsons has to show up or he has to pay
a series of fines that I mean, they scale up
quickly in terms of the amount of costs that we
heard him in his pocketbook, and those things are non refundable,
meaning you can't wipe those away.
Speaker 3 (01:29:16):
That's one of the primary differences.
Speaker 4 (01:29:19):
But Mica doesn't really have a choice, Like he can
beg and plead for a new contract, but the Cowboys
aren't obligated to give him a new contract. They can
play this out. They picked up the option. He's playing
on an option. They can wait and put the franchise
tag on him, and they can put the franchise tag
on him a second time if they wanted to.
Speaker 3 (01:29:38):
He doesn't have leverage in this situation. He needs to.
Speaker 4 (01:29:42):
I don't want to say play nice, but he's kind
of the mercy of Jerry Jones right now.
Speaker 3 (01:29:46):
You know he wants his bread in those things.
Speaker 4 (01:29:48):
But withholding services, really it's only detrimental to him because
it's so putative in the pocketbook. He has to make
a decision how long does he want to play this
out hopes of trying to secure a deal.
Speaker 1 (01:30:02):
Same thing with Trey Hendrickson in Cincinnati. Really, he's got
a contract.
Speaker 4 (01:30:06):
He has the contract, and they made it the last
collective bargaining agreement. They made it so punitive when it
came to holdouts, so it wiped away significant leverage for
players looking for new contracts and deals in those things.
That's why some of the people, you know, when it
came to the PA doing agreeing to the CBA, some
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people felt like some of the players got so short
because of little things like this that really hamstrings their
ability to push and get more money.
Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
Right in nineteen ninety two, Ema Smith became the first
player to win a rushing title in the Super Bowl
in the same year, and he wanted some more money,
and he was a restricted free agent. He could talk
to the other teams, but the Cowboys could match any
offer or receive some drift compensation, and he still had
the contract coming in his way. You know he's going
to do that because what happened was that year the
Cowboys started the season without Emitt Smith and they went
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on too. So basically that and it may happen this
year with Michael Parsons, who knows.
Speaker 1 (01:31:05):
I don't know, Yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (01:31:06):
It's gonna be cost It's gonna cost him money.
Speaker 4 (01:31:08):
Even Chris Jones when he did this a couple of
years ago, and they can't see that Chiefs won the
Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (01:31:13):
He talked about it.
Speaker 4 (01:31:14):
He never really made that money back up the two
million dollars that he lost and fines. He still didn't
say that it was worth it cost him a lot
of bucks.
Speaker 2 (01:31:24):
Sure, you gotta be crazy too, I mean you really do.
I mean I get it. You want to you want
to get what your contemporaries are making. Okay, and uh, TJ.
Watt and Trey Hendrickson did the like night and day.
Trey Hendrickson is not in watch league. There's no way
he's not gonna end that kind of money.
Speaker 3 (01:31:42):
Okay, I hear you say that.
Speaker 4 (01:31:43):
But then when you look at the numbers the top
three sack artists the last five years, Miles Garrett, TJ. Watt,
Trey Hendrickson. So you can say that they're not the
same league stylistically or whatever, but the numbers say, hey,
I'm right there with them. So if my numbers, my
production is right there with them, then I need to
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get paid just like they got packed. I mean that,
I mean that, that's just what it is. Because Andy,
let's be honest. If we were on a show every
day and I showed rated like color coward, then you
and I would be knocking on the on the door.
Speaker 2 (01:32:16):
Hey, hey, but but it's different. I tell you what,
you have to do the same. Look what they do.
We talked about TJ. Watt and and and Hendricks and
all of those guys. They play on Sundays together in
the same league at the same time. We are not
at the same time as he was. So if they
let us do that time, dude, know he does this time.
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That's how you judge it. It's like night and day.
Speaker 1 (01:32:38):
I don't know. Yeah, that's a fair comparison.
Speaker 4 (01:32:40):
See, but if we did have the same thing, I'm
just saying, like, if we were earning ratings like Coward,
they're doing the same block. We want money that is
comparable to that because those guys play the same position,
the numbers are comparable. And I'm Trey Henderson. Why would
I give Cincinnati a discount because I love the city?
Speaker 3 (01:32:59):
Nah?
Speaker 4 (01:32:59):
I mean, like, okay, I'll shave two hundred and fifty
thousand off of my requests, so it's not gonna be
forty one to be forty seven fifty. But yeah, you're
gonna pay me the same kind of money that you're
paying them. And this is the Bengals fault for allowing
this to drag out because the price never goes down,
it only goes Well, it's better, it's better to dig
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found that out in front of the chase. Yeah like
last year. Yeah, like we're doing this. T Higgins all that.
It's more, it's costs prohibitive to wait. They should have
been on the front end of this, particularly when they.
Speaker 2 (01:33:35):
If you breakdown Troy Hendrickson's game by game, he had
no sacks against the Ravens and those sacks against the Steelers.
He had four sacks against a bad Las Vegas Raiders team,
So I think that Yeah, he led the league in
sacks for seventeen and a half, but look who he
did it against.
Speaker 1 (01:33:49):
I think that's a key also.
Speaker 4 (01:33:51):
I mean it can be, but at the end of
the day and a bottom line, business is about the
bottom line, and the bottom line is I leave the
twin twenty four season as the king when it comes
to sack artistry. I now can compare my sales to
two guys that were first round picks who've done it.
Miles Garrett got his bread, TJ. Watt just got his.
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Well guess what, guys, I'm right there, So okay, you
don't want to pay me more than them. Cool, I
still got to be right there. It's almost like price
is right, Showcase, Showdown. You gotta pay me my money.
You gotta give me my money. I've wanted. You got
to give me my money.
Speaker 1 (01:34:26):
So it's I'll come back and say this, A.
Speaker 2 (01:34:28):
You got a contract, and B you didn't believe much
in yourself by signing that contract.
Speaker 1 (01:34:32):
You should have signed a one year deal. Really, I mean,
if you thought so much.
Speaker 4 (01:34:37):
Right, But the market has escalated so much, salary cap explosion,
all those things. When he signed his deal, we were
in a different landscape. Now it has completely changed. With
pass rushers getting quarterback money forty million dollars.
Speaker 3 (01:34:53):
Man, we never saw that from pass rushers.
Speaker 4 (01:34:56):
I mean Aaron Donald to me, I think was the
first one that kind of pushed to quarterback money at
thirty million.
Speaker 3 (01:35:02):
Now they're at forty. But Noanay's crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:35:05):
It is crazy. What was you up?
Speaker 3 (01:35:07):
And I mean not like that.
Speaker 4 (01:35:12):
Cornerbacks are still down or whatever. They're just now getting
to the thirty million dollar more. Derek Stingley Sauce Gardener.
Those guys are just getting there. Wide receivers have been
above thirty four a while, but you know, the league
is you know, a reactionary.
Speaker 3 (01:35:26):
It takes a while. You got to push it up
and do those things.
Speaker 4 (01:35:29):
In Trey Henderson, Yeah, Trey Henderson has waited patiently.
Speaker 3 (01:35:34):
Kind of pay him.
Speaker 2 (01:35:35):
That's what I wished with thirty million when I put
down my two dollars for my lottery ticket.
Speaker 1 (01:35:39):
Thirty million, that's what I would.
Speaker 4 (01:35:42):
It'd be much easier if you can go, if you
can go sack the quarterback against the Las Vegas Raiders,
and then you may be able to get it.
Speaker 1 (01:35:48):
You know, really and truly.
Speaker 2 (01:35:49):
If I knew that then when I was in high school,
you know, to play football, that I didn't have to
have really, I hate to use the word, not a
lot of talent, but more of a mindset to just
get the quarterback. You know, you really know the quarterback
a great athen Am I wrong on that? You don't
have to be a great athlete. If I have the
willpower to get over a guy and beat the guy
(01:36:11):
and go after a guy like a head hunter, then
then you got.
Speaker 1 (01:36:14):
A mate, right, That's that's the attitude you need.
Speaker 4 (01:36:18):
Yeah, you gotta be Yeah, you gotta be a tail kicker,
and you gotta have some crustiness to you some feistiness.
Speaker 3 (01:36:23):
You got that. Now, we just got to give you
a signess.
Speaker 1 (01:36:26):
I got a sport. I gotta be on the microphone,
not a football.
Speaker 4 (01:36:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:36:30):
Yeah, we just got to get you. We just got
to get you a go to move and we got
to get you a counter to compliment that. And then, man,
you're golden.
Speaker 1 (01:36:38):
One of my sons had it in football. He did,
he really did. But he was a running back. He
did well, he really did.
Speaker 3 (01:36:44):
But okay, I mean that that that you have to
have it, you have to he did.
Speaker 2 (01:36:50):
He had that will. I mean, he just had the desire,
which is really great. And I didn't push him. I mean,
you know, how can I push?
Speaker 1 (01:36:56):
What do I do?
Speaker 4 (01:36:57):
I mean, you know I wanted to see, right, But
you get mad because Mike Browl wouldn't pay your son either.
Speaker 1 (01:37:03):
Right, so I gotta pay you to know that about
all right?
Speaker 2 (01:37:08):
You told about holdouts, right, what about the commander is
the Commander's offense that was really shocked about that because
their offensive cordnet Cliff Kingsbury said that we know we
just don't have it.
Speaker 1 (01:37:18):
We need to return. That's big.
Speaker 2 (01:37:20):
When the offensive cord then comes out and says we
need Terry McLaurin to return right now, and I think
he will. I would hope he would come back. I
mean you would think he would. Right was last year
and now he was their offense. You know, jayde and
Daniel and McLaurin were last year's office. They were fifteen
points in the league, seventh in yards last year, and
he caught a career best thirteen touchdowns and twelve of
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those touchdowns came from Jade and Daniels.
Speaker 4 (01:37:44):
I mean, they need him, they need him to come back,
they need him in a major way. It's important for
them to get him signed and locked and loaded because
he's such a pivotal part of what they do and
if they can get him inked to a deal, it
just makes everything easy for him. And so to me,
it's just important that they find a way to get
it done, uh asap, as soon as possible.
Speaker 3 (01:38:07):
Let's get this done.
Speaker 2 (01:38:08):
What was it this ugly when you play with holdout?
I don't remember it, I really don't. I mean I
don't think. I mean it's left and right like that.
Speaker 4 (01:38:17):
I mean it's part of it. I mean, it's part
of the process.
Speaker 3 (01:38:19):
And you have to be.
Speaker 4 (01:38:22):
You got to have to tum me for it. You know,
you got to have the stomach for for being able
to kind of go and deal with some of these things.
Like little Dumper may not have the tummy to be.
Speaker 1 (01:38:32):
Able to withstand some of the unemails with.
Speaker 3 (01:38:39):
A little Dumper. You may not you may not be
able to like kind of handle some.
Speaker 1 (01:38:42):
Of the stuff when it comes to it.
Speaker 3 (01:38:44):
But it's okay, like you just have to. You just
gotta be able to rock.
Speaker 2 (01:38:48):
But you know who's got the stomach for it, I'll
tell you Jerry Jones and Mike Brown. They lived for
that stuff. I mean they really And I think I
read something the other day that Jerry Jones said, it's
good for the Dallas Cowboys when we have something like
this because it gets our name out there. I guess,
especially when the team is not doing well, people are
talking about the Dallas Cowboys. That's like the lead story
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of the NFL preseason right now, Michael Parsons, that's the story.
Speaker 4 (01:39:14):
And sometimes some guys would say that any news is
good news, And for Jerry Jones and that crew, it
probably is true. He is probably okay with dealing with
some of this stuff that you have to deal with
to get to the other side.
Speaker 2 (01:39:33):
Well, I mean that's what he does, and I guess
he does it rather well. But over the lass several years,
over the least twenty five years, honestly, they haven't done much.
But there's still America's team. People love the Dallas Cowboys.
I love to go to Jerry's place where they play.
And you know, really and truly that's on everybody's tongue
right now. Is Michael Parsons Willie Awoni. I mean I
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think he will. But Jerry's got people talking Dallas Cowboys football.
Speaker 1 (01:39:58):
That's what he wants.
Speaker 9 (01:40:00):
He does.
Speaker 3 (01:40:01):
I mean, he's a showman. He digs it. He's a showman.
Speaker 4 (01:40:04):
Like I mean, think about how many people could make
the kind of money and have the franchise evaluation that
the Cowboys have and they have him been close to
stiff in a Super Bowl in almost thirty years.
Speaker 3 (01:40:16):
I think about that, like it's the greatest trick.
Speaker 4 (01:40:19):
He should be in Vegas on the streets just playing
like whatever that three cards shuffle where they kind of
do all the stuff or whatever, like that's what he
has because yeah, oh my god, they can't.
Speaker 3 (01:40:30):
Figure it out. It is a great trick that he's
been able to pull off and he does it.
Speaker 2 (01:40:36):
It's funny you mentioned that, but they don't have the evaluations.
The other day that came out. I think the Shinnei
Bengals will last. I mean really, I mean, and I
is it the It can't be the market size because
I don't think market means much in the National Football League.
Was Green Bay is right up there, and you know,
everybody is equal. It's not like a baseball you know,
where there are different budgets. They got the cap and
things like that. So I don't know why the Bengals
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will be down so far. Really, you would think other
teams would be not the Bengals.
Speaker 4 (01:41:05):
No. I mean like it's probably all the assets, right,
so you take stadium, whoever owns the stadium, taking about
their own facility, you tink about everything that they have.
Then you think about like the steady stream of money
when it comes to ad revenue, star like potential, all
of that, Like the brand the Cowboys huge brand synonymous
(01:41:25):
with the National Football League America's team. As you reference
the Moniker, the Green Bay package that you reference, title town,
the popularity of the team, it transcends generations.
Speaker 3 (01:41:39):
The Bengals, I love them.
Speaker 4 (01:41:40):
And when I was a kid, I used to like
the stripes when they change their helway from the letters
B and G a ls to the stripes, I thought
that was creative as a kid. That got me. But
I can't say that they have like the tradition to
lure everybody. And even though Beingals, fans are some of
the most devoted fans that I know. And I would
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say the Browns fan base and their evaluation is probably
more significant because they still have a national appeal I guess,
which goes back to their original days when they started playing.
Speaker 2 (01:42:12):
You know, I'd rather than seeing the evaluations of how
much these teams are worth, I'd rather like to see
how much of the memorabilia or you know, jerseys are
sold throughout the country. I got to believe Dallas is
right up there, if not number one. But other than that,
maybe the Eagles right now because they won the Super
Bowl last year, But you don't see a lot of
Cleveland Browns. I think the Raiders are up there too.
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As far as people wearing Radish jerseys and caps around
the country.
Speaker 4 (01:42:36):
Right, Yeah, brand names, big brands, national teams, not just regional.
They have a broad following an appeal.
Speaker 3 (01:42:44):
Yeah, I'll say that.
Speaker 4 (01:42:45):
But now I do see Browns backers kind of everywhere.
I do see like their little fan base extend. But
maybe because they also they disappeared. Remember they went to Baltimore.
Then they came back in ninety nine. It hasn't really
been the same. They haven't been good and as good
as the Ravens.
Speaker 1 (01:43:01):
Then you mentioned that back.
Speaker 2 (01:43:02):
I don't see a lot of Ravens stuff around the country.
I don't see a lot of Ravens caps and jerseys.
Speaker 3 (01:43:06):
Maybe no, that's the national thing.
Speaker 4 (01:43:08):
Because also I think parents passed down their fandom. So
the Ravens are still, you know, like ninety six. Yeah,
so they haven't been around as long. Whereas you know,
I don't know where you got your Giants fandom from.
I don't know if that was your dad or your
granddad or whoever originally turned you on. But a lot
(01:43:29):
of times our fandom is passed down because the pop
supports and so then what was he Dowey exposes his
son or daughter to those teams. They go to those
games and they watch them on the tube, that's tore
them on the radio, and before you know it, you're
a fan. They got you locked in.
Speaker 1 (01:43:45):
You know, you're so right.
Speaker 2 (01:43:46):
I'll tell you a funny story about that, because when
I was a kid, I loved the Yankees, and I
can even I could tell you, like I could real
love the numbers right now. I remember Cleet Boy was
number six playing third base, Tony Kopeck, show stop number ten,
Bobby Richardson's second base, number one, Moose SCN first place fourteen.
Speaker 1 (01:44:01):
I can't do that now, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:44:04):
Maybe I know certain numbers on certain teams, the New
York Football Giants. I raan love some of the front
four before for you. I remember they had a tight end.
But I think this is crazy. I don't know why
I remember him number eighty eight, Aaron Thomas. I mean
these are guys that I remember, Tucker Fredericson in the
back court, in the backfield with Ernie Coy. I mean,
just uh, those are the guys you probably do you
(01:44:25):
remember Tucker Fredericson, No, yes.
Speaker 3 (01:44:27):
And Dick him on that That's what Coley I remember, Marko.
I know Howard. I know how Howard cross.
Speaker 2 (01:44:37):
Up with you know Tyke from watching these games. I
loved it, you know, and I went to the games.
So I don't know, but he played Yankee. Yeah, nice, unreal,
it really is, all right, He's Bucket Brooks and Andy Firmer.
We have Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. Get
him on x at Bucket Brooks and Andy furmant FSR
eight seven seven ninety nine on that's the number eight
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seven seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine the
Blaying game at the bottom of this hour.
Speaker 1 (01:45:05):
But but he does want to coach again, would you
hire him? That's next?
Speaker 2 (01:45:11):
All right, this is no joke. You'll hear about it
in just about a minute. He's Bucket Brooks, He's no joke.
I'm Andy Furman. We are Fox Sports Sunday on Foxborths Radio.
We're live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. We've got
the Blaine game in about ten twelve minutes from now.
And believe it or not, asking you shall receive because
my brother lives in Pennsylvania and he just wrote back
to me.
Speaker 1 (01:45:29):
He said.
Speaker 2 (01:45:29):
The San Francisco forty nine Ers are the top selling
NFL team in jersey sales, according to Fanatics. Within the
forty nine Ers, Christian McCaffrey's jersey is the best selling.
According to Bleacher Report, McCaffrey, Patrick Mahomes, Hurts Parsons lead
the top ten NFL jersey sales in twenty four to
twenty five.
Speaker 1 (01:45:49):
How do you like that? So there we go to
forty nine ers.
Speaker 4 (01:45:51):
How do you like?
Speaker 1 (01:45:52):
Who would have thunked that? I never would have thought
the forty nine ers would be their.
Speaker 3 (01:45:55):
Book in terms of jersey sales. Why not?
Speaker 4 (01:45:58):
Well, wouldn't you think they just think by the popularity
of the best players, George Kittle, You think about Christian McCaffrey,
all those things.
Speaker 3 (01:46:06):
Yeah, it makes sense to me.
Speaker 2 (01:46:08):
All right, let's move back to nc AS nc double
A college football and basketball. What would it be without payouts, cheating, fraud,
changing grades, and spying and of course downright cheating. But
who gets caught and who pays when the punishments are
levy case in point right now, the NCUBA came down
on the University of Michigan's advanced scouting case just the
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other day, and the size of the fines like twenty million,
which is just like lunch meal for the University of Michigan.
Believe me, Head coach Cheron Moore two game suspension. Jim Harbaugh,
now with the charges and I love him, I really do.
But he was the problem. He was the coach CEO
at the time. He gets a ten year show course penalty,
big freaking deal. He's not going to go back in
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coach college football, so schools can't hire him in the future.
Speaker 1 (01:46:55):
Big deal. He's serving a current four year show course
right now from a previous cent A case. So who
gets hurt the athletes?
Speaker 2 (01:47:03):
The athletes now with the nil out there and play
I guess a lot of these athletes, if they get
suspension of miss playoff opportunities, been gonna look to leave.
It's stupid. The whole situation is crazy, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (01:47:17):
I mean, look, there's a lot that's going on. When
it comes to it, the hand signal thing, I didn't
know it, mushroom and to what has become.
Speaker 3 (01:47:25):
But here we are, the show calls penalty for Jim
Harbaugh ten.
Speaker 4 (01:47:29):
Years a long time, Sharon Moore having to serve additional
games when it comes to suspension, whatever moneies that were
generated and lost and all that is significant. It's an impact.
But you know what, doesn't change the fact that they
won the Natty champions. That doesn't change the fact that
you can roll out look at the shiny riggy thing
(01:47:50):
to recognize and appreciate them as the best team in
the league.
Speaker 3 (01:47:53):
And so even though they will be the butt of
all these jokes.
Speaker 4 (01:47:58):
Yeah, I mean, I would say that Ohio State's championship
this past year might have an ask you because they lost.
Speaker 3 (01:48:05):
The big game, you know, to Michigan, Like, so you
can't change those things. It's uh yeah, I mean you.
Speaker 1 (01:48:13):
Know what, you can't change the cheating. It's still gonna
go on, it really will. I mean, what is nil.
Speaker 2 (01:48:20):
It's legalized cheating. Back in the day, they gave you
a bag of money. Now they do it on top
of the table instead of under.
Speaker 3 (01:48:26):
I mean, I wouldn't call it the bag of cheating.
Speaker 4 (01:48:28):
I mean it's different now because it's not only nil
now with the revenue share, which is a different deal
of revenue share coming from the university. They're sharing in
the money that's made NIL was pay for play, like
we're paying guys to come play for us. It's a
little bit of a difference we see now.
Speaker 2 (01:48:47):
Speaking of coaches, I ask you, should this gentleman get
another shot? And it's just the way to go about it.
In the media, mentioning a select program the list I'm
talking about. John Gruden says he wants to coach college
footb all right, and I think he will because of
his name and as far as he's concerned. He's a
bit of a celebrity really because working with the Four
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Letter Network with that quarterback show kids not this guy.
Speaker 10 (01:49:12):
You know.
Speaker 1 (01:49:12):
I'm not going to compare him as far as success.
Speaker 2 (01:49:15):
With the on Sanders, but he's a little bit like
the On Sanders because he's a personality. I think John
Gruden will get a job as coaching college football. But
he went to the Georgia practice the other day and
he basically said in front of the Georgia kids and
the coaching staff, this is what he wants to do.
I didn't think it was the right place or time,
but he sure got what he wanted. He got everybody
talking about it.
Speaker 4 (01:49:36):
Look man, everything that he's done over the last year
has been calculated. You may not have been paying attention
to him, but I do what he coached me. He's
one of my former coaches and demanded I played for
I respected a ton right.
Speaker 3 (01:49:49):
I spected Gruden he was a young rock star.
Speaker 4 (01:49:52):
Was his first season with the Oakland Raiders had the energy,
had the quote unquote juice, as they would say, he
had that great offensive mind. What he's done with Barstool
is he has been more active. He's going to more
college campuses. He's delivered various motivational talks to these collegiate teams,
and he was setting the table for what he eventually
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wants to do, which is the leader program. No matter what,
and it doesn't matter how much money he makes off
a settlement, what he's been able to gather from others
and that stuff entities. He may love money, but man,
there's nothing ever places coaching. And for him, man, he's
dying without coaching, dying without it. Because once he got
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back in, he went all in Derek Carr the Raiders,
they were on the verge of being a really good team.
He didn't get a chance to complete the project. Is
driving him crazy, which is why he wants to get
back in.
Speaker 1 (01:50:50):
You know, and you gotta be shocked with his pedigree.
Speaker 2 (01:50:53):
I mean, he went to the University of Dayton and
he was like a third string quarterback on a Division
III program.
Speaker 1 (01:50:58):
I mean, really and truly, you know what he has done,
what he's accomplished.
Speaker 2 (01:51:02):
I mean, I think those people who were at Dayton
at the time are so much shocked how far he
advanced in football because that doesn't normally happen at a
school like Dayton.
Speaker 4 (01:51:14):
No, but he also had somebonsistence along the way, nothing
wrong with that, like family members, part of organizations that
kind of cracked the door. And then he did what
he did with the opportunities. But he had opportunities a
little bit based on the name, family name, and then
he looked. He knocked the doors down, became a great coach,
won a Super Bowl with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and
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all of that. So he deserves credit for that. Now,
the tricky thing for him to navigate is all of
the salacious information that came out regarding the emails. When
he goes to a collegiate campus and he's leading young
people and those young people are going to be a
diverse population, he might have to explain a way some
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the emails and some of the innuindo that were in
the that the racial tropes that were in those emails,
and if he can stand on it and help people
become comfortable with him as the coach, as the leader
of the team, as the one that is shaping a
generation from eighteen to twenty three. That's going to be
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the thing that's the sticking point that he has to
overcome when it comes to the university's first to parents
and the kids, but really at the top, you know,
higher edge institutions.
Speaker 3 (01:52:32):
I think you want to deal with some of that stuff.
But like the way, well.
Speaker 1 (01:52:37):
Yeah, wherever, I'm sorry, go ahead, Oh no, no, no,
we're good. Okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (01:52:42):
But you know, as soon as he gets hired, the
story is going to be such and such school hired
for X amount of years, here's the contract. But back
in the day, he had those emails who sent by
him that include racist and sexist remarks and language, And
he's got the answer that's gonna be in the hiring story.
Speaker 1 (01:53:02):
It has to be.
Speaker 4 (01:53:04):
Right. It is it is, and look, fortunately or unfortunate
whatever it is. Like the tide of the country is
turning where that might not be a big of an
issue as it is as it would have been a
few years ago. Like he may be able to move
beyond that because like just kind of where we're at,
you know, in the country and the landscape and the
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way people perceive those things to be. Whatever side you
stand on from a political standpoint like that might not
matter or have as big of an impact as it
would have had, and so.
Speaker 3 (01:53:36):
That might make it easier for institution to roll with him.
Speaker 4 (01:53:40):
But remember this, even before that, Hugh Freeze at Auburn
who went from Old Miss to Liberty or whatever, he
has some stuff in his background that he's been able
to overcome. Bobby Petrino has had some stuff in his
background that he had to overcome. There are others who've
had to overcome things. Yeah, Ray Patinos. So so it
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can be done, and it will be done in John
Gruten's case if he builds the right case to make
people who are doing the hiring comfortable.
Speaker 2 (01:54:15):
I would say that John Gruden will get a job
coaching college football next year, next season.
Speaker 4 (01:54:24):
Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't doubt it. I'm just curious
to see levels. Is it High D one major program
that does it, Is it a group of five program
that's willing to do it. Is it a division program
that doesn't. That's that's the only thing I'm trying to
figure out. Where is it going to happen? But yeah,
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they're I mean, they're countless jobs. He's qualified in terms
of what he's done on the field to be able
to do it. And after you see Belichick go to
North Carolina and those things he's seeing. Okay, there's a
there's a way for me to get in the mix
and find find find a role and find a niche
for myself.
Speaker 3 (01:55:04):
Here we go.
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Speaker 1 (01:55:26):
After we get up the year. Now you could yell
and scream if you like, you could point your.
Speaker 2 (01:55:30):
Finger, but the blame Game is freaking next on the
Blame Game coming right up by eleven minutes before the
top of the hour, which would be nine o'clock on
the East Coast.
Speaker 1 (01:55:40):
That we're live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.
Speaker 2 (01:55:42):
And by the way, nine o'clock East Coast time Countdown
with Brian Know, Jeff Schwartz, Bill Krackenberger right here on
Fox Sports Radio. So you have no reason to go
anywhere else, but right now it's time for the playing game.
Speaker 12 (01:55:56):
You ruin me, it's all your fault. It's your fault,
your fault. Maybe it's everyone's faults.
Speaker 9 (01:56:08):
He's a liar. That's why there's the blame game.
Speaker 1 (01:56:11):
Let's figure out who to blame. He's a liar and
his name is Eldie.
Speaker 12 (01:56:15):
He's a liar.
Speaker 8 (01:56:16):
That's something. That's what the l n LD is for liar, liar, liar, lying, dumper.
That's me.
Speaker 10 (01:56:22):
All right, Well I got one for us guys. I
got one to blame. So Luca don says, we know
Luca Lakers. That's that's my guy.
Speaker 8 (01:56:30):
Apparently, he was.
Speaker 10 (01:56:31):
Playing in a Slovenian euro basketball game, Slovenia versus Latvia.
He appeared two limp off the court and injured his
knee getting ran into by a teammate.
Speaker 8 (01:56:43):
Who do you blame for all this going on while
playing EuroBasket? Who do you blame? Andy?
Speaker 1 (01:56:48):
I blame himself because he lost too much weight.
Speaker 2 (01:56:50):
If he hadn't let weight on him, he wouldn't have
been banged around, right, He'd be like a hot thing
to move. He'd be like a telephone pole, that's what
he'd be. Now he's too skinny, heat.
Speaker 3 (01:57:04):
You want him to eat.
Speaker 4 (01:57:05):
We complain about him being out of shape. Now he's
in shape and skinny. He gets banged a round. It's okay.
Speaker 2 (01:57:11):
He'll beavericks to the playoffs.
Speaker 10 (01:57:15):
So he's out of shape, he gets made fun of
him for being fat, and you're telling him to My god,
no one's ever happy with.
Speaker 3 (01:57:27):
Yeah, he was a porker. We needed to get him.
We need to get him down.
Speaker 10 (01:57:31):
Yeah, seriously. Oh lord, thank you, mighty, thank you, thank you.
All right, So it seems the w n b A
has more fisticuffs than the NBA. Do women like to
fight more than men? Who do you blame on this one?
Speaker 8 (01:57:45):
Bucky?
Speaker 7 (01:57:46):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (01:57:47):
More than men?
Speaker 4 (01:57:48):
I wouldn't say yes, But it's a little feisty. It's
a little feisty, little spicy, taking close the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (01:57:55):
I'm okay with it.
Speaker 4 (01:57:56):
I mean, who doesn't like to see a good brawl
every now and then?
Speaker 1 (01:57:58):
I'm gonna have my wife joined the U n b A.
How's that sounds?
Speaker 3 (01:58:02):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (01:58:04):
All right?
Speaker 1 (01:58:06):
I blame that the women like to fight. That got
you know why not. It's great. You want to blame,
blame the commissioner. She hasn't stopped it. She's weak. That
commission is really weak.
Speaker 3 (01:58:14):
In the w n B A did you go?
Speaker 1 (01:58:16):
I enjoy watching him.
Speaker 8 (01:58:19):
Have more questions?
Speaker 1 (01:58:20):
Is really starting it all to Sophie Cunningham. She's getting
it going to.
Speaker 3 (01:58:26):
She's popular.
Speaker 8 (01:58:27):
Yeah, I have more questions, but that's for another day.
Speaker 10 (01:58:31):
Moving on, we have after more than a year to
your time, NFL MVP Lamar Jackson has withdrawn his challenge
to Pro Football Hall of Fame qby Troy Aigman's use
of the number eight in trademarks.
Speaker 8 (01:58:43):
Who do you blame for this one?
Speaker 9 (01:58:44):
Andy?
Speaker 2 (01:58:45):
I don't blame anybody. I think Lamar finally got small. Say,
you know, the heck with it? Let him have his number.
You know what, who cares?
Speaker 1 (01:58:51):
No one knows who? Eight committees now anyway, yesterday's news.
Speaker 4 (01:58:56):
I mean I can really understand what the deal was,
what he was aiming for. But yeah, I mean I'm
okay with him dropping it. I mean people are gonna
follow Lamar because he's a cultural icon, so he'd be fun.
Speaker 8 (01:59:07):
Yes, yes, all right, guys.
Speaker 10 (01:59:09):
Well, the Big Twelve will release player availability reports for
football and men's and women's basketball before all conference games,
daily injury reports and the like like that, et cetera.
Speaker 8 (01:59:21):
Who do you blame Bucky?
Speaker 4 (01:59:23):
The gamblers? The gamblers d that, that's not this is
not anything for the fans.
Speaker 3 (01:59:28):
Why do we here?
Speaker 4 (01:59:29):
The only reason we here is because we're putting a
small little wager on these games, and the availability helps us.
Speaker 3 (01:59:36):
That's what this is about. Like, it is what it is.
Like we were with the sportsbooks.
Speaker 2 (01:59:40):
Now this is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of,
because not only it's gonna affect the gamblers and the
gambling casino deals because they're gonna bet on these games,
but more than that, all of a sudden, now the players.
Speaker 1 (01:59:52):
Are gonna bet on it.
Speaker 2 (01:59:53):
You're gonna see more players getting in trouble for gambling.
I promise you probably. I don't think there aren't that. Like, wait,
how many people go to a casino in Vegas and
bet on a Big twelve women's basketball game?
Speaker 1 (02:00:06):
Are you freaking kidding me? Really?
Speaker 2 (02:00:08):
You gotta be a downright degenerate to been on a
woman's Big twelve basketball game?
Speaker 1 (02:00:13):
Really?
Speaker 4 (02:00:13):
I mean, I mean I can't do it, but I
mean I wouldn't put it past me if I had
the freedom and to be able to do it. I mean,
there's some good games out there, Andy, there's some good teams.
Big Twiff Texas is good. There's some other teams. I mean,
there's some teams out there. I would you know, the
friendly wager every now and then would be okay, you.
Speaker 2 (02:00:32):
Think so, I don't know. I'll talk that the Countdown
guys on the next show. I'm gonna listen see if
they talk about that. Because it's crazy, it's not good,
it's not healthy. It's not a good thing. I'm telling
you because it brings sports down. There we go, and
speaking of that Countdowns right around the corner, you guys
have thank you for your hell of great week.
Speaker 1 (02:00:49):
Buckets. Feel better see a Sunday right here on Fox
by now
You don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
All right, he passed the first test. What's next. We'll
explain that in just about a minute.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Good morning, everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
It is that time, Yes, it is. It's Fox Sports
Sunday and Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Ferman.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
And by the way, we're broadcasting live from the Fox
Sports Radio studios and away we go.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Here he is, it's football times.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
So there's none better to talk to than the main
man himself, my partner, Bucket Brooks.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Hello, Buck, how are you?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I am?
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Great, Andy, little under the weather, but I'm here and
down in New Orleans getting ready for a Jaguar Saints
preseason game.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
You know, I kind of figured it out. You know,
it takes me a little longer than others. I'm a
little slower than others. I'll tell you why.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I say that.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Everybody's all excited about the preseason, and I've saying to myself, well,
you know, after the first couple of snaps, you have
no idea who's playing, and you're never going to see
these guys again, perhaps unless you follow Canadian football.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
So now I know what the deal is. It's all
about excuses.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
You know, when the preseason plays, everybody has an ex
If your team loses, well you know they're not playing
their regulars and if a team wins, you got hope. Okay,
in particular, now, the Giants beat the Jets yesterday, who
was like something like thirty one to twelve, I think
it was, and all of a sudden that they got
Jackson Darth. That is a bit of a I guess
maybe a quarterback controversy. They say, Jackson Dart's not going
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to be but playing. He's not starting, he's not the
guy right but however, he is pretty good.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
But again it's preseason. What does it mean? Bucky? Tell me?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
He won fourteen for sixty, pass for one hundred and
thirty seven and he's scored. He passed for a touchdown
as well. He's obviously the future for the Giants, but
he's not going to play. But I guess the Giant
fans have hope right now.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
I mean, whenever you take a quarterback in the first
round and he has an opportunity to play in a
preseason game, you want to see that he looks the part,
that he gives you some wow moments. And that's what
Jackson Dart has provided in New York Giants. He's given
them some wow moments, some hope, some optimism, some a
feel good. It's about the position because they have a
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young guy who has showing it two preseason games.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
There's some promise. That's what you want.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
And if you're Brian da Ball, what it does is
it gives you hope that at some point during the season,
if Jackson Dart has to play, the results are going
to be positive. Doesn't mean that he's a better option
than Russell Wilson now, but he's trending to get in
the right direction.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Okay, here's my take on it right now.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Obviously, Russell Wilson's the guy, been there, done that, played
in the NFL, no doubt about that. But maybe he's
passed his prime. Maybe he's in the shadow of his career.
Who knows. But I'll tell you right now, if I'm
Brian day Ball, I know that this is my year.
I don't win this year, I'm probably gonna be gone.
I'm playing the guy that maybe gives me a better
chance to win. And I think right now, maybe Jackson Dart.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Maybe I'm nuts, but maybe Brian Dabell and those guys
aren't under the directive that they have to win if
they've shown promise with a young quarterback.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
The odds of winning significant games with a young quarterback
or not in Brian day Ball's favor. But given his
impact on Josh Allen in the past, given the change
that he made in Daniel Jones' career when he first
got there, maybe Brian Daball and Joe Shane are not
necessarily in the best place for ownership, but they're on
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the same page when it comes to the development of
the young quarterback. And because Jackson Dart has shown promise
in the preseason, it actually may give Brian Dave Bautlan
those guys some time because he can go to ownership
and be like, hey, we can slow cook this process.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
We don't need to put him out there.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
If we're saying that the young quarterback is our future,
we don't want to disruptive his growing process by changing
coaches and doing those things.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
I think he's in good shape.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Like, look, the season is the season, and they certainly
can't get blown out the first half of the year,
but I think he may be in good shape with
that defense looking like it looks in the quarterback looking
like a viable option for the future.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
You know, you just hit on something right now that
I never even thought of. They need to do a
study on quarterbacks on their growth process, on how many
head coaches and or offensive coordinators they've had in the past.
You look at Trevor Lawrence and you're pretty close to
that situation. How many offensive coordinators has he had over
the list couple of years, three four. I mean, I
think that makes a major difference in the growth pattern
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of a quarterback right absolutely does.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
The reason why is because you need stabuild the instructure
to have success as a young player, particularly young quarterback.
Same voice, same system, same rep same things on a
daily basis to get better. If you're always changing those things,
you always reset the counter back to zero and you
have to start the climb again. But by having a
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level of structure in place, consistency in those main things,
the coaching staff, the players around them, that gives your
quarterback the best chance to thrive. And as you're looking
at the New York Giants, their defense, which I believe
the front line is the best in football. When you
talk about extra Lawrence and those guys, if they can
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play great defense, if they're able to establish a running
game in those things, it is the perfect environment for
a young quarterback to come in there.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
So maybe we can see some growth now with Ben
Johnson coaching the Bears with Caleb Williams. Could we see
a change in Caleb right now?
Speaker 4 (05:18):
I mean we could. I can't say that. I'm all
the way convinced that we've seen all of that. I
would say that potentially we could be there because Ben
Johnson has pulled this all before in a different way
with Jared Goff, you know, being there with Jared Goff.
Jared Goff is a bit of a broken quarterback when
he goes to Detroit because he's been cast off from
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the Rams. Confidence is not there, and they rebuild him
up to be a Pro Bowl caliber quarterback, almost a
championship quarterback, by surrounding with a good running game, a
confident play caller, a solid scheme that he can work with,
and then just understanding how to win games and put
him in a situation to win games. Yeah, coaching, structure,
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all that matters. You know.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
It's funny you mentioned it now.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I'm thinking of the quarterbacks that were tossed out in
the trash and came back with a new life. I mean,
you know, and you can look at Geno Smith. He's
one of those guys as well.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
In New York. They kind of rolled him out on
a rail.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
They did.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
They did not feel good about Geno Smith in New York.
It takes him a long time to get an opportunity
to come back to be a starter. Bounced around Giants, Chargers,
finally gets a chance in Seattle before.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Landed in with the Raiders.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
But he became a two time Pro Bowl player in
Seattle because they would run the football effectively. He had
the right voice in his ear with the play calls
and those things, and he got better. So it takes
it's a combination of factors, at least the success of
the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I could add one one. Maybe Baker Mayfield's in that
category as well.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Oh, he absolutely is.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
I mean two things that hell, Baker won when he
went to the Rams with Sean Mavay. That brief stint
showed what he could do. Then he goes to Tampa
Homily finds his way has success in the day of Canalis,
did Liam Cohen. Those things are consistent. It's the right system,
the right play caller. But more importantly, the right people
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around him, offensive line, running game wide receivers. But the
common denominator between all those things is to consistency between
the structure of the offensive organization meaning plays personnel around him,
and then the presence of a good defense where he
doesn't have to do everything. He only has to manage
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the offense. It doesn't have to kind of be the
driving force of the offense.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Right.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
I know how many rated fans are out there. Why
I don't know, but you know, Raiders have a tremendous following.
They travel well, the fans, and all of a sudden
they got some hole. But Ashton gentye and now I
get it. I mean, he was great in college. But
last night, what did they do? The Raiders lose to
the forty nine is on what was the last second
field goal twenty two to nineteen. That was the final.
But jenty had seven carries for thirty three yards. But
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I get it. It's they're going crazy. They're going gaga
now and maybe they now they have a running game.
They were pretty bad as far as the running game.
Who's concerned the year ago? Maybe Genty's the answer, but
you know, I'm not that kind of guy. I you know,
I see better than I hear. And I got that
from you know, some coaches at the Cincinnati Bengals. You
know who they are back in the day. But again,
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I hope he does well. I think he'll do okay.
But you know, I look at the pedigree. I look
where he played in college. I don't know if he
would have had such a great career if he played
in the SEC. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe, but we don't know.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Running backs can come from anywhere. Though he's a terrific player.
His skill set has been compared to that of the
Danny and Thomason. Remember the Danny Thompson didn't play.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
In the SEC.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
So great running backs can come from anywhere. I'm willing
to bank on his skills, in his temperament, he's gonna
be a good player.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Well, I hope he is.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I mean, and look to some extent, he should have
maybe won the Heistchman Trophy of a year ago.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Really, yeah, that's a debate.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
I still believe he went to the right guy, Travis Hunter,
because of what he done. But yeah, I mean, it's
a good worthy debate. We can't have a spirit of
debate about him being worthy of winning given the production
that he put up. I mean, the consistency that he
had over time. Now people are talking about as you
did Mountain West competition, but the numbers are undeniable.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Right, no doubt about that. And now I want to
talk about a name, and all of a sudden, Now
this is like.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
The big story in preseason.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
There's always a story, and this year the story is
Shador Sanders. All right, maybe it's the name. I don't know,
tell me help me here. Why all the fuss? He
was a fifth round pick, obviously, I think the fuss
is his last name.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
That's what it is.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Last week had the opening game against Carolina, and on
social media they got craziness. Lebron James was praising him,
Jamie Fox was praising him on social media.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Helped me out here.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I know. We won thirteen to twenty three under thirty
eight yards, two touchdowns. He's a little hurt now with
the oblique, but honestly, I mean he was a fifth
round pick, and I don't though sure the Browns are
gonna keep four quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
I mean, the performance was magical last year. Last week
we didn't get chance to se him Againt. The Eagles
this week, but just the energy and enthusiasm that existed
in the stadium, he was terrific in terms of moving
around the pocket and doing those things. Not perfect, but man,
he showed a lot of promise having an opportunity to
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play at the last minute.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Look, I think he was good.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
And then when you compare his performance and the offense
performance against Dylan Gabriel and the Browns offensive performance under
the third round pick, Yeah, there's some reasons why the
Chaudur supporters.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Are really kind of beating their chests.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
With what he did. So I think it was solid,
it was impressive. It was a flash, which is what
you want to see you doing this time of year.
But it wasn't enough for him to overtake Joe Flacco
whomever as the QB one, but it definitely showed that
he could play in the National Football League.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I don't understand how he felt to help me here.
How did he fall to the fifth round? Was it
his attitude because of his dad, the name Sanders, I
don't get it. I mean, I think he had an
outstanding collegiate career in Colorado, I really do. And as
a quarterback, that's a need position, a need position.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
It's very rare.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I think that a quarterback given fools that far down
if you think he has that kind of a skill set,
fifth round, I mean really, I mean, come on, I
still think he's better than Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I still think he's better than him.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
He may be, but ultimately, it doesn't matter where he
came in. He got picked where he got picked. Now
you have to go prove it.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
You know.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
The one thing that the draft is and I have
to tell people all it is his pole position is
where you start your career. But it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
But it's my position too.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Yeah, I mean it's a money position, but it's not
that ultimately, Like the NFL is a meritocracy, like you
get paid off of what you do, and you can
come in as a first round pick as an undrafted
free agent. But once you have your opportunity is what
you make of it. And if he continues to take
advantage of his opportunities, it'd be great for him. It'd
be a great story. And I'll say this, no bleak
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injury preventing him from building upon that the way that
you would like to see, right, It kept him out
of the game and so he didn't get a chance
to play. But like we were celebrating Jackson Dart because
Jackson Dart put together back to back performances.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
That were solid.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
If your Door Santas does that, it changes the narrative.
It changes everyone's tune a little bit.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Okay, I want to zoom in on your guy in Jacksonville.
This thing really bothers me. All right, I'm to my cam,
little twenty one year old kid. I look him on TV.
It looks like years old. He really does. You've seen
him up a close and personal, right. Does he even shave?
I don't even think he shaves, really.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
I mean he's here as a boyish look to him.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
I guess he does. Okay, he's twenty one.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Hit that seventy yard field goal against the Steelers, the
longest kick made in football history. So all of a sudden,
now the Pro Football Hall of Fame in Canton, Ohio.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Says they want his jersey to put on display.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Why can he have an asterisk next to his name
that he set the record? I know it's preseason, it's
the record. I don't know if anybody's gonna ever kick
a seven yard field goal last night, that a fifty
nine or at the end of the game for San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
But I don't know, and I hope he does.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
But why can't they put that in the record book
as an asterisk, say he did it, but he did
it in a preseason game.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
He still did it.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I don't understand why it's gonna go away and no
one's even gonna know about it.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Now, we got to have some formal things when it
comes to that part of it here.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
We need, we need.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
We can't allow him to go into Hall of Fame,
but the as the record holder, it's great to celebrate it.
But it's a preseason game, not a regular season game,
and so that's why you can't give him the record.
I don't get an exhibition it's an exhibition game.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
So it doesn't count on that.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
So if that's if that's the case, they shouldn't keep scoring,
then don't keep scoring preseason.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Really, I mean that bugs me.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
To his credit, he's never said boo, he's never said
a word saying I should have the record give me
the right.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I mean, he's fine. You see it. Do you see
him almost on a daily basis?
Speaker 6 (14:37):
Do you go to practices in Jack when I've gone
to practices I've seen him move around or whatever, and
they told me in practice he had nailed a seventy
two yard of the week during the week leading into
that performance.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
You know, this wasn't something that the team had planned,
but they just kind of got in that situation. They
got to run the balls at midfield. They were like,
why not? And he nailed it. So it does change
the way the team thinks going forward. It's a great thing.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Dark I think it's wonderful.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I really do.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
I need to pick your brain a little bit.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Now We've we finished two weeks and we're going into
the final week of preseason games. Is there anything in
your mind that stands out say, well, I didn't see
this coming.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
I'm looking forward to this team. This team is going
to make some moves.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
You know.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Just some talk now about the Kansas City Chiefs. Can
they beat the throne? I mean, what have you seen
and you travels around the National Football League?
Speaker 4 (15:37):
I think the biggest thing is the young quarterbacks and
Jackson Dart and cam Ward. We beat two of the
biggest names we've already talked about, Shudurah Sanders. Cam Ward
finally have an opportunity to play and it's funny. He's
the most overlooked number one overall pick that we've ever had.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
And he probably loves it. He probably loves it.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
I mean, I mean, it's certainly motivation, but we don't
talk about him. And he has shown some flashes. He
has the alpha dog temperament that you look for. He's talented,
but man, he is flying under the radar.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
So, I mean, do you see a team right now
that was flat on its back a year ago that's
going to make some sort of a move this year,
makes some noise, you know, a change all of a sudden.
Do you see the Bears coming alive? I mean, right now,
it looks like the same old, same old. I don't
see anybody coming out of the pasture, so to speaking,
and make a splash that hasn't been there before.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
You They talk about Groller day. Okay, Green Bay's good.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
But it's hard right now with preseason because everyone has
a different agenda going into the games. There's some teams
that are trying to get used to winning, I e.
The New England Patriots, Mike Rablind those guys have prioritized
winning in the preseason. Other teams that are prioritized health,
they want to make sure that their guys get to
the starting line. Brady, you go the Rams, Those teams
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hard to really make anything out of the preseason because
it's not a level playing field when it comes to
and the focus and the intent to win.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
You know what, that's a great point because I think
that teams that have not won in several years that
that's what they call the culture.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I guess, I mean, that's culture, whatever it may be.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
But you want to let them know that this is
how you win, and it's a good feeling to win,
and you better start winning now. On the other side
of the coin, I look at the Detroit Lions. They've
lost their first two games in preseason. What does that mean?
Speaker 4 (17:34):
I mean, it doesn't necessarily mean anything to be kick
it off because once again, without really knowing those conversations
that have existed internally about the teams and those things,
you just don't know. But I would say, look, man,
don't spend a whole lot of time worrying about how
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the Lions are performing during preseason. Get a feel for
what the first team looks like, does it feel like
it's operating smoothly in those things? And then after that
you just kind of move forward, you know, just kind
of wait till they kick off the first week.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
You know.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
And I'll say this, I think there are some underlining
questions that I think coaches and even players will not
go public with. But I think the fans could take
a good hard look and see that. I'm looking at
the Cincinnati Bengals. They look good offensively a week ago,
and they played tomorrow in Washington against the Commanders, but
the defense to me, was no better than it was
a year ago.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
And I think that's a major concern.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
They won't say that publicly, but I think they're gonna
look at that big time tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
That's a big test.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I mean, if their defense looks flat again, people are
gonna say, well, they didn't play the regulars. They make
a difference, the defense was bad and if it doesn't
get any better, and still that Trey Hendrickson thing is out,
I mean, he didn't even talk about that now. I
mean it looks like a given that he's probably not
gonna play. I mean, I can't believe it, but I
mean I don't get that deal. But their defense really
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and truly is that as an anchor on that ball club.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Yeah, I mean the defense is a problem, but remember.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Preseason, we got to see what it looks like.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
They'll be fine.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
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Speaker 2 (21:28):
All right, now we have asked Bucky in about maybe
ten minutes from now, so get this. Officials are going
to be cracking down on college football players who fake injuries.
How they gonna do that? Bucky Brooks telling me, and
I want to know, got to be honest. I'll put
your hand on your heart. Did you fake an injury
when you played? And then how many of these fake
injuries really go on during a game?
Speaker 3 (21:50):
I mean, it is a real thing.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
I never faked an injury. Firstly, like we're taking come on, no,
but we did have some and that would tell someone
to take a knee. If we were having a tough time,
if the team was going really fast, if we were
just confused about anything because of the rate of the
tempot whatever. We may rub our forms and it come
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in from the sideline and the Rosie form would just
tell everyone somebody taking me, somebody played dead.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
You know.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
We just yeah, so we were played, we were play
we played it. We played those games. That's that's kind
of a part of what it is.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
The games you guys practice that work that out in practice.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
We absolutely did work it out where we had someone
where we were we had a designated fall guy. That's
how we call it, irenated fall guy. Someone had taken knee,
don't look crazy, just just taking knee, laid there for
a little bit. It would allow us to have an
informal time out to calm everything down and to get
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us back on track. So yeah, like I mean, and
I hate to admit it, but yeah, we operated like that.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
No, when you say we is that pro and college?
Speaker 3 (23:07):
No, that was just pro. That was just in the pros.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
But I do I wouldn't be surprised if it's trickled
down to the collegiate ranks, given how long it's been
since I played in the pros. But yeah, that's that
is a part of it.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Man.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
You give the sign we have a designated player that
will fall down, and you know, you take a knee
and you go out here and you tell the trainer
to make sure you take your time and look it
over real good, and that it butes a little time
to have a little conversation and get everything squared away.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Now, the NCAA Football Rules Committee said players are faking
injuries to stop the game clock is going to happen
beginning this season. If a player on the field presents
as an injured player after the bowl is spoted for
the next play, that player's team will be charged a timeout.
If the team does not have timeouts remaining, a five
yard delayed game penalty will be assessed. I don't know
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a good bit or and different. I mean how they
got to judge that. How do you know if it's
real injury or not really well.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
I mean they have cameras in the stadium everywhere. If
they allow the replay move to kind of see what's
going on, you just see the guy all of a
sudden fall out and nothing has happened. I mean, we've
seen it because they caught guys on TV doing it.
That's how we know that some teams have quote unquote
faked injuries. I mean, if you bring the replay part
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into it, yeah, there's a way to kind of assess
what's going.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
On, and that player's got to be out of the
game for at least one down, even though the team
is granted a timeout and he cannot return until receiving
the approval of a medical professional.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
So I guess it.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Will not be the trainer on the team, actually a
medical professional kind of a guy who is not associated
with either team.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
I would think, yeah, I mean, that makes sense if
you want to do a neutral party.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
All right, So here's my question. I mean, I see
that happen. It does happen. You're telling me that basically
it's practiced at times with a dummy.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
I'm sure. I mean, the guy does who's to fake
an the injury?
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Okay, but they do it, I guess to slow down
the temple of an offense.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Is that what they do? I mean, does it really work?
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Yes, it does work.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Yeah, it works because it allows you to slow down
the temple. It's allows you to have a informal time out.
The communication to get everybody lined up and organized. Yes,
it works. That's why you want to slow it down.
Slow the energy, slow the tempo down. It's a way
of getting your time out without formally taking the time out.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Well, we'll see this year.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
We're gonna watch it very closely in the college games,
all right. Now, and overtime, he's another college rule. Now
and overtime. Each team is going to continue to be
allowed one time out and both the first and second
extra periods. After the first two overtime periods, now, each
team will be allowed only one time out for the
remainder of the game. A team was allowed one time
out of each overtime period, regardless how many were required
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to decide a winner. Interesting, I don't know why they
would do that. I mean, just to speed the game up,
I would think, right, yeah, everything.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
He's trying to fit it into the TV window, so
you don't want it to drag out forever.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
That's why.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Interesting, you know, don't they had commercials, but they won't
give you an extra time.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Out for the team. I don't get it, But that's
just the way it is.
Speaker 8 (26:24):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
All right, here's another change. Help me out with this one.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
On kick returns college, if any player on the team
holds out his arm to make a tee a te
signal during that kick, the team gives up its right
to make a return and the play will be whistled dead.
Tell me what that's all about. The coaches tell you
to make a tea? What was that? Tell me that
a deal? I don't get it.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Well, the tea, the iron cross signal says that it's
automatic touch Bawn, you're not gonna return it. So once
you make that, it's almost like a fair caid signal.
You know everyone pulls off or whatever. So for competitive fairness,
what you want to do is once that signal is made,
is done, like there's no change in your mind. Later,
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once you declare that it's over, the plays over and
you have to take the touch back.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
M all right now?
Speaker 2 (27:16):
In the Football Championship Subdivision, was that like there used
to be NC double A Division two?
Speaker 1 (27:21):
I would think, right so now that.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
A okay coach to play a communications through the helmet,
that's could be allowed right now?
Speaker 1 (27:30):
I had no idea it wasn't allowed before.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
I don't watch a lot of Championship Subdivision games, but
why wasn't it allowed before.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
I'm gonna be honest with you, I don't know what
I wasn't allowed before. You would think that it would
already be there, But it's a trickle down. It just
was allowed in the collegiate level last year, so sometimes
it takes a year or two before the lower levels
take on those things.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Well, maybe the lower levels doesn't have enough money in
their budget to buy communication devices for helmet. Could be
I don't know, man, I'm just throwing that out the craps.
I mean, it's an expensive deal.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
I look at look, it is an expensive deal, and
that's why some of the there's the disparity.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
But to level the playing field for everybody, you have.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
To allow no one to do it, or everyone has
to be able to do it.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
So help me out here this now, okay, the communication
device from a player to helmet and to coach the
sideline to the helmet. You're playing in Michigan one hundred
and five thousand people, could you honestly hear what's going on?
I hear what these I see what these guys do.
They put their hand on the side of the helmet.
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Does it really work? You got one hundred and five
thousand screaming lunatics on there in Michigan or any other
Ohio state.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
I can't see that even working. Does it work?
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Yeah? No, I think I think it does work. Obviously,
it's about putting one in. Communication is crystal clear. You
just have to make sure you cover ear holes so
the outside noise does the impact it.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
But yeah, it works, all right. I'm glad to hear that. Now,
another question, because I know you have these answer.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
I'm watching football more often in the college game than
in the pro game. Some guys on the sidelines with
various pieces of artwork, like crazy stuff like looks like designs.
I guess their plays, right, Have you seen that? What's
the deal with that? Instead of having a communication device
if they can't hear you in the helmet, that have
the guy on the sideline holding up like a big
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cardboard a sign. It looks like and looks like advertisements,
but they're not there. They are various designs. I guess
the players know what they are. Is that what it is?
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Have you seen that?
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Yeah? I mean the plackards on the sideline. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Every I guess character means something offensive or defense.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
So you have real ones.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
You have ones that are dummies or decoys that mean nothing. Yeah,
but they tell you which ones alive and what it means.
So as part of the signal and the placard, it's
going on for years, like all those things have existed
for years. So even with the communication, they still like
to use those things, like the.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Pros to I don't see pros using that right, I mean.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Just college because in the pros you have the device,
you don't need to use it. That's why you have
the stuff in the headset the quarterback, you have a
green dot down on defense who gets.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
The call and relates it to everybody.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
In college, for years you didn't have those things, and
so you had to have a way to get the
call in for all eleven defenders or offensive players to see.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
And so you would see that.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
And then you also after signs stealing, you'll see the
people holding up the shades in front of or behind
the signaler, so the people in the press box can't
identify the signal and steal the signal. So all that
goes on. That's more of a collegiate thing than a
pro thing.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
But yeah, that's what you're at.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Well, there's a couple of people that could steal signals.
I think you could throw maybe Jim Harbaugh, we'll get
into that later on. Maybe Jim Harbor knows how to
do that. Get into that a little later on. But
and this is kind of sad. This is kind of
said that the NC DOUBLEA had to come out with
this rule. Get this, all forms of gun violence are
not permitted, and simulating the firing of a weapon is
an automatic unsportsmanlike foul. This year of a player simulates
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the act of brandishing a weapon, it will be considered unsportsmanlike.
I mean, really, do you have to Is it that bad?
That's kind of sad. I think they got to throw
that out there.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
I mean, yeah, it is that bad, and it's sad.
But you have to.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Remember, it's not just the game that you're talking about.
Is the young people that look up to these guys,
and so when they mimic gun fire in those things,
then what happens is it falls down to high school
and youth football or whatever. So this is part of
double A stepping in, stepping in to make sure that
the guys are modeling good behavior. You can't get everything
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out of the game, but you can't control.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Some of this.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
And so look I'll plaud them for that because some
of that gunfire stuff that the kids do is stupid.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Well, it is stupid, I will tell you this much.
At least the NC double A is addressing it.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
I mean it's said that they have to do that,
but I wish the NBA would because I think it
happens a lot more in the NBA. I mean, when's
the commissioner of the NBA. He needs to say something
and maybe throw a technical foul, do something, because you know,
those kids really emulate those NBA players and I've seen
it a lot in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Yeah, they do, like they do emulate all that stuff,
and you need to get that out. But it takes
a commissioner to step in and say, we don't want
to see this. It's not it's not professional, it's not
a good look. We don't want young people copying these things.
And it's about prioritizing the brand. The NBA has done
this before, they did it. David Stern was really big
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on protecting the brand, and you know, you just need
to make sure that's that's what they do.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Yeah, and I'm really surprised that d NC double A
came out with these rule changes. So close to the
beginning of the season. I mean you would think they would.
I mean some of them are really major, but still
in all you would think that maybe a coach would
want to run these in in spring practice. Why announce
these the week before the season starts next week is
ground zero.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
It's reminded.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
The coaches already knew what it was, but it's a reminder.
They come out and when a lot of times we
catch win of it, the media catch wins of it
late as we're beginning to have these meetings for broadcasts
and all the stuff, and they're telling the broadcasters what's
new for twenty twenty five. That's why we the public
are just getting it. But the coaches have been well
aware of this for a few months. They've had these
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discussions with their teams. So this is it's not something
that is last been It's something that has been done before.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Okay, And any defensive play within one yard of the
line of scrimmage, stationery or not, may not make a
quit and abrupt move or exaggerated actions that simulate action
at the snap of an obvious attempt to make the
offense commit a penalty.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
I get that. Okay, that's big.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
The offense will be held to the same standard as
any pre snap movement that simulates action at the snap
is a foul on the offense for a full start.
That's that's kind of been in play anyway, so we
kind of knew that.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
Yeah, I mean, it's been in play. It's just about
making sure. We're talking about competitive equity. Just make sure
everything is fair.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
All right, We'll see what's gonna go on. I'm gonna
really have my eye on these fake injuries. It's gonna
be big in college football. It's gonna be the first
team that kind of gets thrown the flag on. That
be really interesting to see what happens on that. All right,
He's Bucket Brooks on Maddy Firman. We have Fox Sports Sunday.
I'm Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
There's a little controversy here and this man has all
the answers.
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Speaker 2 (34:52):
As Bucky coming right out. That's Bucket Brooks and of
course I'm Andy Ferrman. We have Fox Sports Sunday on
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So let's get it go and ask Bucky time at LD.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Are you ready?
Speaker 8 (35:05):
Oh, I'm ready, I got one on. All right, let's go.
Let's go.
Speaker 10 (35:10):
All right, Bucky, I got a question for you here.
So obviously, it's been two weeks for preseason and two
exceptionally strong performances from who won Jackson Dart for the Giants.
My question to you, Buck is, do you think Jackson
Dart takes the starting spot early in the season.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
No. I think this plays out over a bit. I
think you have to figure out when the Giants bye
week is. That's normally the breaking point. That's when you
want to slide a young quarterback in. I don't think
it happens early. I think, if anything, it happens where
whenever the Giants have a bye week.
Speaker 9 (35:45):
LD.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
I'm really glad you brought the quarterback situation because I
got a question for Bucket Brooks. I'm gonna ask Bucket.
It's a good time to ask him. Of course, let's
ask Bucket time all right now. The Associated Press picked
their old time all Americans the other day and Tim
Tebow was named quarterback.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
I got to ask Bucket Brooks.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
What about Vince Young, What about Vinnie Testavarde, What about
Michael vic Johnny Manziel, Andrew Luck, Peyton Manning, Cam Newton,
or even Joe Burrow?
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Why Tim Tebow?
Speaker 3 (36:14):
What was the question about Tim t Bow? Why is
he what?
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Like?
Speaker 1 (36:17):
He picked him?
Speaker 2 (36:18):
The Associated Press picked him as the old time quarterback
on their All American team.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
Probably because of what he did in college. I mean,
he won the Heisman Trophy in college. In look, he
was a force of nature. So I can understand if
they're using the college game as the platform, Tim Tebow
should be up there.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Really over Cam Newton, that Joe Burrow.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
I mean he did it multiple years, so he, like
Joe Burrow Cam Newton were one year wonders at their
respect of college's no disrespect.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
But Tim Tebow did it over time.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Good point. I knew you'd have the answer. I knew
you would. All right, Next, how good will quarterback.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Caleb Williams be this year for the Bears under the
guidance of first year coach Ben Johnson.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
I think there's a lot of hype about him but
it all comes down to the quarterback and if you
believe in him. I'm still in waiting to see mode
when it comes to Kaylen Williams, just because of I
would say the competitive and emotional maturity. I need to
see that he's grown. But if he's grown, the talent
is there. They have the pieces around him, but a
lot of it depends on the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Okay, I hear what you're saying. Now, this is especially
for you.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Former National Football League players are more likely to be
living with chronic pain or disability, are more depressed and anxious,
on a far more likely to have some type of
cognitive decline than the average man like LD I mean, really,
Doug him. Okay, do you agree? And how are you
holding out Bucket Brooks as a former player?
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (37:50):
I think it can be tough on former players. Now,
I am lucky knock on wood. Health is good. My
body feels great. But for some of who played maybe
in the trenches or really engaged in the true physical
physical nature of the game, yeah, it can leave them broken.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
So yeah, so look, I believe in those studies.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
Because I have seen some of my teammates and fellow
players go through things.
Speaker 8 (38:12):
Did you just take a shot at me? Andy?
Speaker 2 (38:14):
How slow are you? You must have something I was
waiting for Lucky to finish. Did you play in the NFL?
Maybe you got some problems?
Speaker 8 (38:22):
Really actually, maybe I need another Wisonator.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Oh my goodness. We'll go go down that road another day.
All right, Okay, tell us why Bucket Brooks. College football
coaches make so much money? And should they?
Speaker 3 (38:38):
I mean, look, they're bringing a lot of revenue.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
To the school, and studies have shown that the better
your football and basketball teams are, the more your admission
rates in terms of more people apply for admission. So look, man,
outside of the chancellor or a head of thing, they
are very influential in what happens at the collegiate on
the collegiate camp.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
I just I can't believe some of the money that
they make. I just how much is Bill Belichick making
in North Carolina?
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Ten million? Something like that?
Speaker 3 (39:09):
I think so. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
But like if the football team is good, then you
have more applicants, which leads the more money for the university.
The clicks that they see, because every time you have
a college game, there's an infomercial or commercial about the university.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
It makes sense.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
I mean, they represent the university in a major spotlight.
So I understand, you know, the money that goes to them.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
See, he's making more money in North Carolina than he
made his coaching on New England Patriots.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
No, I'm not saying he made more.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
He's making more now, but he's making a hefty chuck
of change.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Now I got to ask the average man of question, LD.
Are you there, I'm asking you a question right now?
Speaker 10 (39:47):
Oh, I'm here?
Speaker 3 (39:48):
What's up?
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Right? Okay?
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Now this is ask LD Bucket Brooks said, like when
the football comes are on TV, there's a lot of clicks.
If you're sitting at home watching North Carolina play and
they're winning on Bill Belichick's to coach and this stands
a full would you be inclined to apply to go
to school in North Carolina because to the football team?
Speaker 10 (40:07):
Uh, if I'm a football fan, football watcher, yeah, I
probably would be, especially because just star power.
Speaker 8 (40:13):
Yeah I wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
I you know, I just never thought of it that.
Speaker 4 (40:17):
But I'll see this because my daughter just went through it.
She's won the University of Texas. She wanted to go
somewhere with an atmosphere, and so we're watching Texas football
and Texas basketball, but football and particularly the energy around
the football team, particularly when they went in the playoff run,
made her want to have that experience. So, yes, it
does impact young people.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
I believe you. Believe me. I believe you. There's no
doubt about that. Do we have time for one more?
L d Oh? We guess we do not?
Speaker 2 (40:45):
All right, we'll continue that, but right now, guess what
he wants to play again? That and so much more
on Fox What's Sunday coming up right here next?
Speaker 3 (40:54):
All right?
Speaker 2 (40:54):
His former team is BUCkies number one. Yeah, I'm going
to find all about that in just About It. And
good morning everybody. This is Fox Sports Sunday on Fox
Sports Radio. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm and Deferman, and we're
broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. And away
we go. And Buck, I know you had a big week.
I know you're a little bit under the weather. You're
drinking that tea with lemon.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
I am it's funny because I just I just went
out the room.
Speaker 4 (41:17):
I just made sure I went to the microwave to
heat up another cup so I can.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
Try and make it through this segment.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
I'm not gonna pressure. You know, I'm gonna take it
easy on you. I need you, I love you, and
then we're gonna move on. Right now, I got a
couple of things I want to clean up before we
get into the heavy duty lifting, all right. Number one,
what happens to the La Rams without Matthew Stafford this year?
Because I worry about a thirty seven year old guy
with a bad back.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
They'd be fine.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
They're figured out like it, they'll get to it. I
do worry about him when it comes to like being
able to hold up, But Shari Vay's confident, you know,
he's confident figured it out. It helped that you have
Jimmy Garoppolo in the fold and also steps and minute.
Jimmy Garoppolo is good enough for them to kind of
work around some of his deficiencies to still win games.
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But it's certainly not Matthew Stafford. But I believe in
Less Snead. I believe in Seanmvay. They can figure this out.
If he's not available.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
That that's a big deal.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
That what you just said right there is that I
don't think a lot of people feel the same way,
especially maybe RAM fans. But that's big when you just
said that they'll be pretty good even if Matthew Stafford
doesn't play. That's huge because you have that much confidence
in that coaching staff.
Speaker 4 (42:30):
Oh yeah, like I am fine with them figured it out.
So you know they're figured out. They'll get it done.
And the Rams are one of those teams that they're contender.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
People don't talk about them being a contender.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
But they look. They took the Eagles to the matt
last year. It had an opportunity to do it.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
This year.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
They have a better roster, and if Matthew Stafford is available,
they certainly can go the distance.
Speaker 9 (42:59):
All Right.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
A story popped up just the other day, and I
got to share it with you because it really it
kind of made me a head spind Really, a University
of Kansas received a three hundred million dollar gift from
a donor by the name of David Booth, and the
school announces, I think it was like Wednesday or Thursday,
the largest gift in school history, among one of the
largest in the history of college athletics. The first question
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is why on Earth? I guess he just loves Kansas.
Maybe he went there, his family went there. I don't know,
but you got to believe that you could probably feed
a small country, you know, rather than give money to
a school.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
But that's his deal. I'm gonna tell anybody what to
do with their money.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
So I don't like to listen to sports talk radio
when guys behind the microphone are telling people or telling ownership,
spend this sign this guy.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Now, it's not your money. Let him do what he
wants to do.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
I know that fans in Dallas want Jerry Jones to
sign Michael Parsons, and I know fans not Ey want
to see Trade Henderson gets signed. But I don't think
it's my place behind the microphone to tell Mike Brown
or Jerry Jones how to spend their money.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
You don't want to sign the guy, fine, is it wrong?
I think so? But you know it's it's not my money, right,
that's the way I feel.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
That's what you feel, So you don't. You don't care
about how they spend the money. You're just a loyal
fan that that doesn't have a stake in the team.
So whatever they do, you're good. So you're okay with Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
I question Jerry and Mike Brown not signing these guys.
I think it's crazy. I think it's crazy that a
guy may not want to play it because of that.
But I'm not going to stand on my head and
start scimming sign them getting the money. No, it's not
my money. It's not my like I would never tell
anybody what to do with their money. I don't think
it's right, but I think what he is doing for
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the fan base and for the image of the team,
both Jerry Jones and Mike Brown, I think it's wrong.
I think it just looks bad because they have the money.
Speaker 4 (44:41):
They do have it, Yeah, they have it, and they
should spend it. And it's weird to me that they
don't want to spend it. And I think some of
these owners realize this look his business, not whatever they
want to do, just enough to seduce everybody in and
then that's it. But that's not good enough, Like you
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should spend the money to field a winning team, because
if you build a winner, do you make even more money.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
That's why it doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Well, and again what doesn't make sense to me is
a guy like David Booth putting down three hundred million dollars.
I mean, if I had that kind of money, I
don't think I donated to school. I just I don't know.
I think I'd rather give it to people that need it.
I mean, maybe that's just me. But three hundred million
dollars is seventy five million is going to go towards
the second phase of a four hundred and forty eight
million dollar overhaul of the football stadium for the University
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of Kansas.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
I mean, I think it's great that Kansas has a
guy like this.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
But my question is this, I think maybe the NCAA
should put a cap on how much money donors or
anybody could give us school, because now Kansas has got
great facilities, more so than any other school maybe in
the conference.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
Don't you think there should be some sort of a
capping thing. No, okay, it's just.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
Not at all. I did all right, Why it's fair?
Speaker 2 (46:07):
You want to have an even playing field, you know,
I mean it was. It's a recruiting device. I mean,
now a kid goes out to Kansas and sees this
stadium with a great facility and great into locker room
whatever it may be, and you know, supposed to going
to another school. He sold on that because of the
money put in there.
Speaker 4 (46:26):
Have better lums do better stuff.
Speaker 3 (46:28):
You can tell me, what is that?
Speaker 4 (46:32):
I mean, Rudy, Pudy, you can't compete with Ohio State.
I mean that's you know, like have better lums and
be active when it comes to soliciting the money from
those alums who have success and find a way to incurp,
like you know, encourage them to come back and get back.
Speaker 3 (46:49):
So now I'm not with you on that. You're own
on your own on that one.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
Anything, All right, I'm on an island. There we go, Now,
I move along. Guy. I said that.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Coming up too the segment, this guy wants to play
and apparently he's not done yet, and we're talking about
the NFL wide receiver Odell Beckham Junior. He says he
wants to play again, and there were I guess fake
reports on social media that he retired. First of, how
in the hell does that happen? I mean a fake report.
You talked to the guy and he says, I want
to play now. They said there were fake reports, so
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much just sort the report that he's going to retire.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
I don't understand that at all. I mean, I.
Speaker 4 (47:25):
Mean sometimes people assume that it's over, but people have
said that he's been contacted by teams there's teams with
interest in him, which is Look, it's really amazing because he.
Speaker 3 (47:41):
Landed in what I thought was.
Speaker 4 (47:42):
Gonna be an ideal situation for him when he was
in Miami, but it just didn't work out.
Speaker 3 (47:46):
It'd be interesting to see which teams are there.
Speaker 4 (47:50):
Look, he's a serviceable number three, number four wide receiver
at this stage of his career. I would say it
depends on the money. You know, how much money is
a team willing to pay a veteran receiver to come
in and beat the number three.
Speaker 3 (48:02):
He can catch and do those things.
Speaker 4 (48:03):
But I mean, there's been a minute since he's been spectacular.
And some of that is due to the fact that
he towards ACL and that Super Bowl. But he really
helped the Rams back then. But man, you know, a
couple of years, a few years, that's a lifetime in
the NFL. I don't know if you'll ever be a
major contributor. But if you want some veteran experience since savvy,
maybe Obj can be your guy.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
Okay, he's thirty two years old. He has not played
a full season in six years. That's big, it really is.
And you talk about the Dolphins, he played for them
last year, but he only had nine catches. So you say,
there's a spot for him somewhere, and there are some
needs for some teams for at least a three guy.
And I looking right now with the Minnesota Vikings because
Justin Jefferson right now, he's got a hamstring and that's
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kept him out, so there's a possibility there. And then
Jordan Addison he's gonna miss the first three games because
he's suspended, so maybe the Vikings will pick him up.
That's a possibility, right, So I'm looking at some of
the teams.
Speaker 4 (48:58):
That, oh, yeah, you know what, that's not a bad
spot because Kevin O'Connell I think he was with the
Rams back then when Odell had the thing. OBJ has
a relationship with Justin Jefferson, obviously the LSU Ties.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
Maybe that'll be a spot.
Speaker 4 (49:15):
Whether locker room could absorb his big personality, that's something
that you have to at least discuss. Not saying that
he's a bad guy, but you just have to there's
a lot of tension that normally comes along with OBJ
stepping in the building. But not a bad sign, particularly
because young quarterback JJ McCarthy. You can eed weapons you
gonna lose Addison could be a good fit.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
All right, what about bringing it back for the Giants?
But I think the Giants fans would love that. Plus
you got two receivers on it, the elite neighbors. Okay,
he's that the number one guy, Darius Slayton, But other
than that, there's really not much depth. I think the
Giants may go for him. What do you think Giants?
Speaker 4 (49:53):
He may want that. I don't know if day Ball.
I don't know if day Ball wants that. I think
he wants a nice, quiet locker room, doesn't want a
lot of attention on him and those things that will
put the attention on him for sure.
Speaker 3 (50:07):
Don't know if that's what he wants.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
Okay, if it's not the Giants, let's go for the Jets,
because after Garrett Wilson, I don't know who they have
as a receiver.
Speaker 3 (50:15):
They don't have anybody, you know.
Speaker 4 (50:17):
But once again, do you want to bring that in
to the Jets, like new coach Aaron Glynn, do you
know Obj well enough to make sure that he's gonna
be positive and supportive of the new play and the
new agenda. Those things have to be vetted out because
veterans are not inclined to change their way. So you
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have to make sure that you know how he operates
and gets down as a way that you want your
team to operate.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
Okay, you're talking about veterans are changing their way. Let's
talk about the veteran himself. Aaron Rodgers with the Pittsburgh Steels.
He's got DK Metcalf. After that, who do they have.
I think here's the guy that if they could go
for Aaron Rodgers, they could go for OBJ. I think
there is a possibility maybe in Pittsburgh. Perhaps, I don't know,
And I think that if Aaron Rodgers would want him,
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they'll get him biggest. Obviously, he hadn't picked the Jets
team last year, didn't he?
Speaker 4 (51:13):
I mean he did. I don't know if Pittsburgh signs
up for that. And this is why Roman Wilson is there,
guy second year player from Michigan. They have Robert Woods
already in the building, a quieter guy or whatever you
think you have to You just got to make sure
in terms of blending personalities, that is good.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
Now.
Speaker 4 (51:32):
Jaylen Ramsey who they brought in Ken vauchram he was
on the other side of deep of that team when
the Rams had OBJ, maybe he could say that he
would be the perfect fit and those things look OBJ
said he had multiple options, you know, or people that
around him have said that multiple teams have contacted him.
He has to or he will likely look at the
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situation in which team gives him opportunity to get closer
to another Super Bowl. Rate.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
Okay, but we do a great Minnesota as a possibility.
I'm gonna throw on another one, which I think is
a real possibility as well, the San Francisco forty nine ers,
because right now, Brandon Ayuk, I mean he's gone, right,
he's with the ACL there anyway, he's.
Speaker 1 (52:14):
Out of there. They got George Kittle.
Speaker 2 (52:16):
Christian McCaffrey's never healthy, he never plays a full season.
So I think the forty nine ers would love him.
Speaker 4 (52:23):
Uh let's see, how would he fit? I mean, he
could fit in there.
Speaker 3 (52:32):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (52:33):
I don't know like the way the Niners fancy themselves
or the way they're positioning themselves.
Speaker 3 (52:39):
They just moved off of Debo.
Speaker 4 (52:41):
It doesn't seem like they're embracing a lot of I
don't say glitz and glamour when it comes to their
locker room.
Speaker 3 (52:50):
I don't know if he's a great fit. I don't
know if they.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
I mean the decimated even before the season starts. They're
really hurting.
Speaker 3 (52:59):
Really hurt.
Speaker 4 (52:59):
But you don't va from me standard like, because what
will what would crush him? As if Kyle shana here
knows early. Yeah, this dude isn't for us, not for me.
It's not what I'm looking for. Just got to make
sure he fits into the environment.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
All right.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
Now, I want to move into the meat and potatoes
of Bucket Brooks, which is the NFL dot Com. I
love it, you know, I read it all the time.
And we went from offense now we're going to defense.
I want to know how you did this. You pick
the top defensive fronts this week and I was shocked
with number one before we get to that, But how
do you this? This is difficult to me. I couldn't
do it. I mean, you played the game, so obviously
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you have a different eye than I.
Speaker 1 (53:39):
Would ever have.
Speaker 2 (53:40):
But still in all, it's just difficult, especially at this
time of the season. It's easy to pick it up,
you know, after the first month maybe, but to.
Speaker 1 (53:48):
Pick it up before they play, I think that's tough.
Speaker 3 (53:52):
Oh it's tough, But that's why we do it.
Speaker 4 (53:54):
We don't run it right from like tough stuff like
hard things are hard. So it was hard to pick
three teams, teams that you really feel great about their personnel,
then the tactics utilized to maximize them. But I feel
good about the three teams on the list.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
I can't believe that you have the New York Football
Giants as the number one top defensive front Sell me
on that. How did that happen? I mean, Dexter Lawrence
is there right. I just didn't think they were that good.
Speaker 4 (54:23):
I mean, if you just look at them on paper,
they have everything that you want upfront. And I didn't
fully explain this in the piece, but you go back
to licking the blueprint that the Giants have used to win.
It has always been about their front four being able
to get it done. So going back to when they
wanted most recently with Tom Coffin and those guys, you
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think about Michael straighthand ocihu Manure, Justin Tuck, matthias Ki
and Nuka, those four guys being able to create that
NASCAR front when he got after the quarterback knocked off
Tom Brady twice. Let's go back to the Bill Parcells,
Bill Belichi Days, Lawrence Taylor, Carl Banks, Leonard Marshall up front,
they're able to dominate Jim Burt in the middle. This
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is what the Giants do when they're loaded on the front.
Speaker 1 (55:10):
Thank you for a second.
Speaker 2 (55:11):
I'm going to go back to when I was a
kid to the Alley Sherman Coach Jays when they had
Sam Huff, Jim Katkavich and Andy Ropostellia front.
Speaker 3 (55:19):
I mean, I can't do that because I have to
see it.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
I watched the Giants then.
Speaker 4 (55:24):
Yeah, that was that was on those those tapes and
films that are all jumpy on the TV.
Speaker 3 (55:29):
I could make it.
Speaker 1 (55:30):
Yeah, black and quarterback in Yeah.
Speaker 4 (55:33):
I mean, okay, I appreciate that, Like I can go
back to Frank Gifford days. But they're like, you're way
way beyond my uh my knowledgement back then.
Speaker 3 (55:42):
I just little.
Speaker 4 (55:44):
You were a little dumper back then. You're a little
dumper running around watching that was yep, But.
Speaker 1 (55:51):
That's what they did.
Speaker 2 (55:52):
You're exactly right, So you think, I mean, is that
is that common in football that they just take from
years past?
Speaker 1 (55:59):
This is our stuf. The Bears kind of do that too.
They've always been a defensive mind the team.
Speaker 3 (56:04):
I mean, they've always been their best when they've been that.
Speaker 4 (56:06):
Thinking about the Pittsburgh Steelers and what the Pittsburgh Steelers are,
they're defined by the Steel curt no matter what.
Speaker 3 (56:12):
They do, who they are.
Speaker 4 (56:14):
They never deviate away from that, particularly when it's been
a championship formula for you. Nah, you never go away
from that. That's the blueprint because you've seen that work.
That's why it always stays front of mine. Because of
the success that you had previously.
Speaker 1 (56:32):
Mm hm. And you like the Giants number.
Speaker 2 (56:34):
I mean, if they could get some sort of an
offensive going, you think they could be somewhat of a fight.
Speaker 1 (56:40):
Could they be PROI plus five hundred this year?
Speaker 3 (56:43):
You think I could be.
Speaker 4 (56:44):
I mean the division is tough, but you just never
know how it's gonna go. Normally, somebody comes back to
the pack. There's always surprised when we thinking about surprise teams.
You have to be great in something. The Giants potentially
could be great on defense if they unlocked that front,
that front four and they get after the passer. I'm
do a card as a problem. Dexon Lawrence is a
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minutes on the inside. You got two speed guys on
the outside. Brian Burns came on Thibodeau. They have talent,
you know, if they can run the football and take
care of the football. Because remember just a few years ago,
Brian da Bol had this team at eleven to five
winning a playoff game on the road in Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (57:24):
It's Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (57:24):
He understands, he understands how to play winning football. He's
done that. Don't let the two bad years take away
from what he did his first season. He's good enough
to get the team in to the winner's circle if
he has enough talent.
Speaker 3 (57:38):
They got enough talent to be able to win some games.
Speaker 2 (57:40):
Okay, now this scares me a little bit because they're
number two team. I always show was a tremendous offensive
ball ball club and now you're talking about the second
best defense and that'll be the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 3 (57:52):
Yeah in Minnesota. Man, they loaded.
Speaker 4 (57:54):
They came back after a great year last year. You know,
they messed it up the last two games season. That
kind of looms large and everyone is worried about the quarterback.
But defensively, chaos will ensue because Brian Floores has the
kind of personnel to create problems. Uh, they go and
get Javon Hargraves Jonathan Allen in the offseason. They already
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had Andrew van Ginkel. Uh, they had Jonathan Gynard Grenard.
Speaker 1 (58:22):
And then you have those two guys.
Speaker 4 (58:25):
I mean they're sack artists, right, and then you got
to nose tackle and Harrison Phillips, who's a problem. They're
loaded and Brian floyd is will change the picture behind
that defense. They will bring pressure to create one on
one matchups. Uh. Yeah, they're they're they're problematic, They're a
tough they're a tough team to deal with.
Speaker 1 (58:42):
I think they're front four could be better than the Giants.
Speaker 3 (58:46):
Could be.
Speaker 1 (58:47):
I think could be. Well, we'll see could be.
Speaker 3 (58:50):
We'll see how they played out.
Speaker 1 (58:51):
But yeah, they three.
Speaker 2 (58:53):
I'm shocked again because said I'm always looking at the
offensive side of the ball on this club as well.
Number three you got to Houston Texans.
Speaker 4 (58:59):
I really Yeah, maybe I've been Texas too long, but
agetown putting it down Will Anderson, Danil Hunter, both of
those guys they commnd for like twenty three sacks. They
get after it. They can hunt the quarterback. Uh, they
have some veterans on the inside who have Danilko Archry,
somebody helps Sheldon Rankins, who helps Mario Edwards.
Speaker 3 (59:22):
I mean they have some veteran pieces to also.
Speaker 2 (59:26):
Ryan's dad coach. You said, a defensive minded coaches Demo.
Speaker 4 (59:29):
Yeah, super aggressive, really solid, does a great job, great job.
Speaker 1 (59:36):
Of ta take a sip of tea that I think
you need to.
Speaker 4 (59:40):
I mean, I gotta keep the sentences short. They gotta
keep the sentences short. But they are really solid up
up front. When you think about H Town being able
to get after it, they get after it because Demiico
Rans is aggressive on defense and we talked about their front,
but they also have some guys in the back end
that can help them mask some of those issues too.
Speaker 2 (59:58):
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I'm a deferwa who are alive for the Fox Sports
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A in about ten twelve minutes for now, But right now,
I got to run this by. You know, it's told
about preseason football for a second. And I turned the
game on and after like the first couple of period
back really after the maybe the first two or three sets,
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I'm turning it. I watched Atlanta the other night against Tennessee,
and I have no idea who's playing right. I'm kind
of switching over, believe it or not, following baseball down
the home stretch.
Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
Maybe I'm nuts. What about you, because I know you're
a big Dodger fan.
Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
Look, I'm following the Dodgers.
Speaker 4 (01:01:24):
There's a lot of conversation about San Diego de Padres
taken over.
Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
But the Dodgers, in typical.
Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
Dodgers fashion, when it's time to step up and get
it done, they're getting it done.
Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
I hear what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
But to me, I mean, right now, I think baseball.
To me, maybe I'm wrong. It's a little more interesting
and more meaningful than preseason football because I have no
idea who's playing. But I will watch Washington Cincinnati tomorrow night.
I'll do that, and I kind of glanced a little
bit back and forth. But you know, after the first quarter,
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really and truly, you have no idea what's going on.
It's it's for the coaches. It's it's an evaluation. Guys
are trying out and they want to see it. But
as you told me last week, if there's a fifty
three man roster, you know probably forty five guys that
already decided who's going.
Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
To be on the team.
Speaker 4 (01:02:10):
Yeah, one hundred percent. You already kind of know. You
go in with some battles in mind. You may have
three or four battles that you're paying close attention to.
But most of the team is already said, So you're
trying to finalize those four or five battles in which
guys are gonna make your practice squad while also having
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an eye on the waiver wire and looking around the
league to see if there's anyone elsewhere that could come
in and help you beyond what the current personnel you have.
Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
In the building can do.
Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
Okay, Now, I said coming upo the seven that we
got bad news for Joe, I would say, Joe, that's
Joe Burrow.
Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
What do I mean by that?
Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
I'm going back to the NFL dot Com, which you
wrote for this week. Now you got the top defensive
backfields and he plays two of the three of them
twice this year, and one of us to Baltimore Ravens.
I had no idea that Baltimore Ravens backfield is that
strong of that good. I know they got Marlon Humphrey,
but he's been there like the ages there, the dog ages.
All right, you got to believe eventually he's going to
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slow down. But other than that, who did I have?
I didn't think they were that good, the Baltimore Ravens
the backfield the least.
Speaker 4 (01:03:17):
No, but what they did is They picked up Yarry
Alexander off the scrappyet from the Green Bay Packers, and
even though it didn't end well for Alexander, you talk
about a guy who has a Pro Bowl pedigree, someone
who can cover and defend at a high level, can
play mannor zone. Gives them the flexibility to do a
few different things. You've alluded to. Marlon Humphrey, who's kicked
inside as a nickel, has a great knack and sense
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for knocking the ball away.
Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
Nate Wiggins came on as a young player with speed.
Speaker 4 (01:03:45):
Cal Hamilton is a force in the box, but last
year they had to remove him from the boss because
they had issues at free safety. Well, now you go
and get Malachi Sparks to come over from Georgia. This
is a team that has loaded high IQ Zachndary will
give zachary Or a lot of freedom in flexibility to
come at people in a variety of different ways.
Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
You know, they didn't miss a step when they lost
a defensive coordinator, did they, Baltimore?
Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
They really didn't look.
Speaker 4 (01:04:13):
I will say this, it's not the same because Mike
McDonald was terrific. Zachary Or's young former player who's learning
how to call the defense. That's why they had some
old heads kind of coming to the building as coaches.
Chuck Pagano is back as a defensive assistant, senior defensive assistant,
helping out doing some things to make sure that or
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has a sounding board and that'll help him in the
second year calling plays because it's a lot thrown at you,
but the talent is there. They'll eventually get to tack
this up to par. Because this team, the.
Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
Baltimore Ravens then the most talented team in football.
Speaker 4 (01:04:46):
Now the excuses are dwindling as far as why this
team hasn't gone to a Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
It's kind of now never heading into twenty twenty five
for this unit.
Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
You think they're the best team in football. I mean,
I'm with you on that.
Speaker 4 (01:04:59):
I really on paper, On paper, they're the most talented team.
I won't know if they're the best team. And two
we get into the postseason and I'm able to get
a sense of their emotional maturity.
Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
That is the thing that is held them back.
Speaker 4 (01:05:14):
They are too emotional in the biggest games and it
has led to them imploding in those games. AFC Championship games,
Divisional round games if they can control their emotions and
just let their talent overwhelm people. This is sports champ
right in front of us. But it's the emotional part.
Speaker 3 (01:05:33):
They to control it.
Speaker 4 (01:05:36):
The coaches, but also the players have to recognize that
it's an issue. The players have to recognize that in
these moments, they gotta they gotta walk away. They got
to lock in and focus and keep the main thing
the main thing.
Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
Not many people are talking about it, and I think
that he's done a pretty good job of like going
under the radar. But they lost an offensive weapon in
Justin Tucker.
Speaker 4 (01:05:55):
Uh, they did, But he's coming off a disappointing year,
you know, like and look at something standable given what
he was in broad in and what he was dealing with.
Like most things, what happens off the field can impact
what you do on the field, and it was clearly
impacting him because he hadn't been the guy that I
snapped the table for, pounded the table for MVP consideration
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in the past. He just wasn't the same player. But yeah,
the kicking game has always been solid for them. They
need to make sure their young kicker can come in
and he can be nails like Justin Tucker has been
for his entire career.
Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
All right, we move on on the number two team.
As far as the backfields concern, it's unreal. You got
them as offense, night got them in defense as well.
The Houston Texans with Derek Stingley Junior, first team All
Pro last year's a cover corner. I didn't think they
were that good either, but you got him down there.
Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:06:49):
No, they're good because their talented Derek Stingley Junior got
paid in the offseason. I mean got paid like significant
money like last year. He's lived up to the hype
as a top pick. And so you have a lockdown
corner on one side. You have a versatile Swiss Army
knife type interior defender in Jalen Peatrie slot playing the
deep post, in the box, blitz whatever you want to see.
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They have those guys, and then beyond that they have
some intriguing players. Jimmy Warre can be a player if
he can take care of his stuff off the field,
Camary Lassiter.
Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
They just have a really good team and they play
well in this game.
Speaker 4 (01:07:26):
Behind.
Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
But we talked about a top three front.
Speaker 4 (01:07:28):
So the Houston Texans defensively, man, they get people nightmares.
Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
It's unreal. Now, I said, I feel a bit for
Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
I mean we talked about the Bothmore Ravens, who knew
the Pittsburgh Steelers right now. They got Joey Porter Junior
for sure, but they got those trades they made. They
got Jalen Ramsey from the Dolphins. So the Steelers gonna
be tough. They're gonna be tough. I mean, the whole
thing with the Steelers right off preseason was state Aaron
Rodgers situation, and nobody was talking about defense. But let's
talk about that defense right now. Because you got them
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as number three. As far as your corner, what is
a concern.
Speaker 4 (01:08:02):
Yeah, Andy, I can tell you talked to Mike Toomland
last week before they played the Jaguars, spend some significant
time talking to him about the defense and those things.
And they're really excited about Jalen Ramsey coming over. And
what Jalen Ramsey does is he gives them a chess
piece to utilize in the defensive backfield. They can play
them outside of the corner, they can play him in
the slot as a nickel, they can play him in
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the post as a deep safety. And what that allows
you to do is to match up better with these teams.
They also brought in Darius Slay, another high end cover corner.
And those two guys, Darius Lay and Jalen Ramsey, they're
mentoring Joey Porter Junior, who has the potential to be
a premiere quarterback one. So those three guys allowed the
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Pittsburgh Steels to play more man demand and get after
and then you got some veteran safeties back there, Deshaun
Elliott being one that they can cover in the back end,
they can protect the middle. This is a team that
is ready to go behind that past rush with TJ.
Watt and some of the other guys, they're gonna get
after it. And so now being able to play more
man demand to go with the zone concepts, the zone
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blitz pressures that they've traditionally done in the past, this
is a challenging team to deal with.
Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
You know, coming into the segment, has mentioned I said
that this is bad news for Joe Burrow, and I
really believe it probably is.
Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
I mean, especially with the numbers he put it up
last year. Yeah, So if I'm.
Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
Joe Burrow, this is what I'm doing right now. I'm
looking at this and I'm concerned. But I'm also saying
to myself, Man, I wish we had those players. That's
what he's saying right now. I'm concern How am I
gonna beat these guys number one and number two? I
wish they were on my team.
Speaker 4 (01:09:42):
I mean, you're not lying. He should be concerned. It
is a problem. It is something that you want to see. Man,
how are we gonna get How we gonna get over
the hull? How do we really get past this?
Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
Guys?
Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
Really we're gonna do? How were we gonna beat these guys? What?
Speaker 4 (01:09:54):
What?
Speaker 7 (01:09:54):
What?
Speaker 4 (01:09:55):
What's going to happen for us to have success? What
is going to need to happen for us to have success.
It's gonna have to be a lot of offensive firepower,
a lot of fireworks coming from that end, and they're
gonna have to hold off for dear life, because defensively,
Domingos can't match up with those other teams. Talked about
the Ravens, we talked about the Steelers. Yeah, it's a problem.
Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
You know what the key is, honestly and kind of
figured it out. Why the running game is so valuable.
You have to have long offensive drives to keep your
defense off the field.
Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
That's what you have to do. And for some reason
a the Bengals running game has never really been that strong.
Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
I guess the less great run of the hat was
Corey Dillon really and then more than that, they strike
hard and fast, you know with Jamar Chase, and they
go for the long ball and that's what they do.
So they may be on the field, but they maybe
they have like a five to six maybe seven minute drive,
and that's basically it. You need to have a drive
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at eleven twelve minutes like a running game with the
old steal of teams used to have that just hit
the rock and just run. And when you don't have
that long drive, your defense is on the field, then
you're in trouble.
Speaker 4 (01:11:12):
Yeah, they have to play a little more what we
call possession control it with their offense. Their offense will
be their best defense, not only because of the prolific
nature of their offense, but by literally possessing the ball,
playing keep away, being able to get up early and
just hold on to it. A lot of pressure on
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Joe Burrow to play that way, and the reason why
there's so much pressure on him to play that way
it doesn't require him to necessarily be perfect, but man,
it puts a lot on him in terms of being
able to get it done consistently from the pocket, relying
on the weapons to make plays, converting the critical situations.
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Just a lot, just a lot that you have to
consider when you're trying to mask a defense that is
atally horrible.
Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
Okay, I could see the Ravens winning that division. There's
no doubt in my mind they probably will, all right,
But the Steelers last year, I was shocked that they
finished five hundred, But I have even more shocked. Didn't
they lose their last five games? That that was the
killer for them? But they just went down the tubes
the last five games. I could see the Steelers making
the playoffs this year.
Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
Do you agree? I really can.
Speaker 3 (01:12:24):
Look.
Speaker 4 (01:12:24):
I think the Steelers said their eyes on bigger prize
than just the playoff t shirt and hat. This is
a team that fancies itself as a Super Bowl team,
even though no one on the outside views them as such. Right,
They're looking to get their edge back. Yeah, They're looking
to get their edge back. Some of the people that
they brought in. They wanted to bring in people that
had not only Super Bowl experience. You know, they wanted
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some guys who had that prickly personality that has always
been a hallmark of the Pittsburgh Steelers when you think
about the great Steelers teams, their little ornery, their little
feisty Mike Tomlin likes that kind of edge within that
and everyone knows. And I hadn't thought about it until
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having conversations with not only Tomland but several coaches. The
Stealers are their best when they are a bit of
a disruptive. Can tankerous butch?
Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
Can you possibly? And this is big now I'm gonna
remember this. I may even write it down. Can you
see the Bengals not making the playoffs again this year?
Speaker 4 (01:13:30):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (01:13:30):
Yeah, I can't see it.
Speaker 4 (01:13:32):
Defensively, they have a problem, you know they they it's
a problem when you can't stop people on defense. No
matter how much I talk about offensive ball, it comes
down to stops. Can you get stops? Can you control
the game?
Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
Yeah? It matters, I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
I mean I could see Pittsburgh and Baltimore battling it out,
and you know I don't see Cleveland doing much. But still,
in all I did without that defensive strength, not getting
any better in Cincinnati. I could see them maybe faltering again.
I mean, they came on.
Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
Strong at the end, but it was too late. It
was too late, it really was.
Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
I just it will be devastating for Joe Burrow and
I feel for the guy, I really do. I just
the numbers that he put up with Jamar Chase are unbelievable.
If you look at those numbers and then you find out,
after looking at the numbers that they didn't make the
playoffs last year, you gotta scratch your head and say,
what happened to that team?
Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
It's just it's an amazing situation, it really is. I
don't believe it. Sometimes I just don't say it.
Speaker 4 (01:14:37):
I mean, you have to contribute more money to the cost.
You're gonna have to give the owner more money so
they can pay Joe Burrow and company.
Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
That's what they did exactly right, all right. He's Bucky Brooks.
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Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
Now there's a fork in the road and you have
two choices. Yay ornay and you know what they're next?
Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
Yeah you Nay time Right here on Fox Sports Sunday,
he's Bucking Brooks and Andy Form. We are live from
the Fox Sports Radio studios. And I say, right now,
it's about eleven minutes before the top of the hour.
It's time for yay or nay. That's okay, let's rock
those brains, gentlemen. These stories needed.
Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
As I think we need a ruling on this.
Speaker 9 (01:15:37):
It's yay or nay.
Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
Ld Are you ready?
Speaker 4 (01:15:42):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
I ready, born.
Speaker 10 (01:15:44):
Ready, it is yay. I am ready for this. So
I got one for us guys. Here's where I'm starting
now with. So yesterday, preseason, we had the Browns Ers
and the Eagles. Dylan Gabriel apparently on field, was interviewed
and was saying that, uh, they're are entertainers and their
competitors and his job is to compete and.
Speaker 8 (01:16:03):
That's what he's gonna do.
Speaker 10 (01:16:05):
Apparently people thought he was taking, you know, a shot
at Shadoor Sanders, but he clarified his comments saying that
the entertainers is the media just to say that.
Speaker 8 (01:16:15):
Do you believe him on that? Yeay or nay? Andy Furman,
he's a liar, He's a liar.
Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
I don't believe him.
Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
He's afraid of the Shadoor Sanders and he should be.
But Shadoor Sanders is better than him.
Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
How's that?
Speaker 3 (01:16:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:16:31):
I think he's misrepresenting what he was saying, because I
don't know why you even bring that up in a
sideline interview. To me, it did appear like a direct
shot at Shader.
Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
I don't want to.
Speaker 4 (01:16:41):
Read too much into it, but it didn't make sense
about entertainers and competitors. He absolutely appeared to be taking
a shot at his competitor.
Speaker 10 (01:16:48):
Yes, yes, all right, well all right, Honestly I agree
with both of you on that. I think he was too. Well,
we're gonna go here, We're gonna go to baseball. So
the Milwaukee Brewers won their twelve consecutive game last Wednesday,
beating the Pirates last night, fourteenth last night, and there
we go.
Speaker 8 (01:17:03):
How about that?
Speaker 10 (01:17:04):
So they beat the Pirates twelve to five, right in
the Milwaukee based restaurant Chaine, George Webb promised free hamburgers later.
Of course, it was the club's best streak since twenty
eighteen and one of only three times in company history
George Webb had to serve up some burgers.
Speaker 8 (01:17:23):
Yeah or nay on this, Bucky.
Speaker 3 (01:17:24):
Brooks, I'm yay on it.
Speaker 4 (01:17:26):
Like incentivizing people is always positive, and so George Webb
dig into that pocket and get those burgers.
Speaker 3 (01:17:34):
Bro I dig it.
Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
You know, I'm gonna say yay.
Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
As I said early on today, I didn't usually tell
people how to spend that money, but if you're going
to be a soul, Bold has to say I'm gonna
give out free Hamburgers. If they went told straight, well,
pay up, pay up, George, pay up.
Speaker 10 (01:17:49):
Well. Speaking of paying up, here everybody. So Taylor Swift
use the Travis and Jason Kelsey New Heights podcast to
announce her twelfth studio album, The Life of a Showgirl.
It was a Tuesday at twelve twelve am Eastern time.
Speaker 8 (01:18:06):
Yeah or nay on this?
Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
Andy Nay because you know, honestly, it's disgusting already, Really
do you have to? I mean, that's how big the
NFL is everybody says how big Taylor Swift is. No,
she had a latch on to the NFL to get
her announcement out there. I know it's Travis and they're
in love and all that stuff is still do it
on your own. Don't put you like a parasite to
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Travis Kelsey.
Speaker 1 (01:18:30):
That's what you are.
Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
And you know what, I'll be honest with you. I
knew those guys from the University of Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
I like Jason better. I mean, you've been you've been
a bit of a hater.
Speaker 4 (01:18:40):
If you saw any of the podcasts, you would know
that they are madly in love. This was not something
where she is she's taking advantage of poor Travis like
this is one where she was a bigger star than
he was. To me, this is about this is about
her just using it the platform to make both of
their lives better, because the more she does on his stuff,
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the bigger he comes becomes as a star.
Speaker 8 (01:19:05):
Who's the woman I'm so with I'm so with you
on that, Bucky. I agree, she's a bigger start stop.
Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
It's true she had to use the NFL pick of
the name.
Speaker 8 (01:19:15):
Out the NFL how to use her, I believe, But
here we go.
Speaker 10 (01:19:18):
So next up, Mattel and Venus Williams now have a
new barbie for the Inspiring Women series. Venus often to
select her win at the two thousand and seven Wimbledon
Attorney why it was the first year the men's and
women's singles champions earned equal prize money at Wimbledon. It
caused that Williams champion long before her win. Yeah your
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nay on this, Bucky Brooks.
Speaker 3 (01:19:42):
Look, man, I think it's great.
Speaker 4 (01:19:43):
Whenever Serena is involved, it is always going to be
a big deal, and because she's giving back and using
her platform, it's positive.
Speaker 3 (01:19:49):
So yeah, I'm big on this.
Speaker 1 (01:19:52):
I say yay.
Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
I love the Williams sisters and it's about time Venus
got some play because it's always Serena.
Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
So I like Venus.
Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
I'm Venus got to do that, and it's really a
wonderful thing that she did that, because she did champion
that equal prize money and she got it done, so
God bless you, Venus.
Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
Willi's good move. But I'm not buying a barbie. I'm
not buying it.
Speaker 9 (01:20:13):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
I'm not interested in Barbie dolls. But if I was,
I would I would buy it. How's that all right?
Speaker 10 (01:20:20):
Anything else that that was the last one? Anything on
your mind? I think when maybe they should make an
Andy Furman Barbie doll.
Speaker 8 (01:20:28):
Let's see.
Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
Yeah, and they could throw pins in it. That's what
they could do.
Speaker 8 (01:20:32):
It comes to its own wsinator.
Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
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Speaker 8 (01:20:42):
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Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
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Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
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Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
And I'll tell you right now, I'm happy and I'm
glad you picked that for the play of the day
because I don't like Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 2 (01:22:17):
I don't like what he had to say about Shador Sanders,
And you know, what. I'm glad you got picked off.
And I like the underdog. I like Chador. I'm a
Shador Sanders fan, and he's gonna play before you'll ever
see the light of day. Dylan Gabriel, how do you
like that? Stick that in your helmet and smoke it.
Speaker 3 (01:22:36):
I mean, that's a little aggressive, dear Indy, but I
get it.
Speaker 4 (01:22:41):
I mean the commentary was not great in terms of
the entertainer competitor quote. Look, he was solid parts of
the game, descriptive part of the game early thirteen for eighteen.
You know, Paul was getting out of his hand, let
a touchdown, drift, but he had to pick six, have
another fumble, have some other things, and it was his
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first action.
Speaker 1 (01:23:04):
That's about your door if you reap between the lines.
Speaker 4 (01:23:06):
Yeah, I mean, but that's that's that. That is what
it is like you have competitors. Sometimes things can come
out your mouth that you you you regret and you like,
I just did wish that you Yeah, you just wish
that you had kind of maybe handled the situation better.
But we'll see, man, they'll get on the same page.
And look, it's gonna be testy when you have a
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third and the fifth round pick. That's why you normally
don't bring two quarterbacks in in the same draft class.
Speaker 3 (01:23:33):
We saw where RG three and Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 2 (01:23:34):
Wait, I remember a couple of years the Browns drafted
a quarterback on the first and the third round.
Speaker 1 (01:23:38):
Remember, yeah, I believe it is.
Speaker 3 (01:23:42):
Yes, yeah, it's not. It's not ideal. It's not ideal
when you go about that.
Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
But your opinion counts.
Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
And I'm going to ask you who's the better quarterback
who will have a better career in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (01:23:54):
Dylan Gabriel or should Door Sanders.
Speaker 4 (01:23:57):
Look, it's hard to say based on so many factors
that go into it, but if you ask me, I
had Shudur Sanders.
Speaker 3 (01:24:02):
Rated much higher than Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 4 (01:24:04):
Doesn't mean that I'm right yet, but just the satisfactor,
the talent factor, their notable differences. For Dylan Gabriel, there's
a path for him to be successful in the league,
but it's harder. The odds are stacked against a shorter quarterback,
and giving his stature as a sub six foot quarterback,
you just don't see many of them succeed in the league.
Speaker 2 (01:24:25):
You're exactly right, Okay, who's the last good one? Maybe well,
fran Tarkenton was Chrinis Wilder was.
Speaker 3 (01:24:32):
Tell about Doug Flutie.
Speaker 2 (01:24:34):
Doug Fluteye, frind Tarkington, I don't remember how short these
guys were to all they were, but they do make
a big deal about arm strength, hand size and height.
They do make a big deal about that. But I
was kind of tough on Dylan, So I'm gonna lighten
up right now. I'm gonna make everybody who's a Raider
fan kind of happy right now because of the playlist
out of Ashton genty okay, seven carriages for thirty three yards,
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and everybody's going bonkers now as far as the Las
Vegas Raiser, because yeah, it's okay, okay, they lost to
the forty nine ers twenty two to nineteen. But you
know what, now you got something to root for, right
That's what basically preseason is, you know, dreams and hopes,
that's what it is for everybody, really, so good for
them and also for the Giant fans. Jackson Darth he
was pretty good fourteen to sixteen hundred and thirty seven
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yards a touchdown. As the Giants rolled over to judge
thirty one to twelve. The question I have here is
how long is it gonna be until he plays? Because
if I'm Russell Wilson, I worry. I'm a little worried.
I'm looking over my shoulder.
Speaker 3 (01:25:30):
Now, you can't look at your show. You're Russe Wilson.
Speaker 4 (01:25:31):
You've been this game long enough to know the only
thing that Russell can control is his performance. He has
to put his focus on that because if I'm Russell Wilson,
to wait that, I think the more that I win,
the more likely I'm gonna stay in the lineup.
Speaker 3 (01:25:46):
I just need to win. And that's what it comes
down to. If they win, he stays.
Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
Period, We'll see how long I mean, I you know, if.
Speaker 4 (01:25:56):
They win he stays, they're not gonna they're not gonna
dump them. If he's winning. If he's losing, now that's
all that's look that he opens up the door.
Speaker 2 (01:26:05):
You know, here's a story we never hear about. We
hear about the coaches. They never comment about the quarterback controversy.
They don't like to talk about it. I get that,
and the quarterbacks themselves they say I'm a team guy,
like Joe Flacco says he's helping the other guys. I
get that through it sounds good. You know, it's really
a lot of pablem because it's not true. I want
to know from you because you've been there, done that.
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In the locker room. There's got to be a segment
of that locker room that is ya oh, nay for
one quarterback or the other. In Cleveland, there are some
saying I'd like to see sho Door get the job,
or someone is saying I want to see Dylan get
the job. You forget about Flackhougus. Certainly as of now
he does, but is not the case. You're on an
NFL team, you've seen that. I'm sure maybe you were
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even part of it.
Speaker 4 (01:26:49):
I mean, like the locker room would always tell you
which quarterback is worthy of being the starting quarterback. They
may not verbally, but the way they respond to certain
guys your job as a coach.
Speaker 3 (01:26:58):
You got to look at the clues.
Speaker 4 (01:27:01):
If they're not as forward like forthcoming with who they prefer,
you just got to look at the cues. Look at
how they gravitate towards one quarterback versus the other. Look
at the way the offense performs with one guy in
compared to the other. All of those factors come into
it because it's the chemistry experiment. As much as we
talk about the quarterback and the talent, it is the
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intangibles that set the good ones apart from the great ones.
And if you have the right intangibles, the right mix,
you're gonna have a lot of success being a lesser
talented guy.
Speaker 1 (01:27:34):
I hear what you're saying. Okay, I hear right now.
But Sudor's going to get his day too.
Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
Bet he was injured and he didn't play this week,
but because he had the oblique deal, so maybe he'll
play next week.
Speaker 1 (01:27:44):
Hopefully we'll see what happens there. And look, he got
a break. I mean sometimes it's luck.
Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
I mean, if they didn't have all those injuries in
Cleveland with the quarterbacks, probably wouldn't seen the light of day.
Speaker 1 (01:27:53):
So he got a little lucky too, And you got
to take advantage of it, you know.
Speaker 3 (01:27:57):
That's the main thing.
Speaker 4 (01:27:57):
No matter what we talk about, no matter how any
reps you get, you got to make the most of them.
So if you only get two reps, you get better
make sure those two reps are perfect, so you hope
the next time you get four reps and you begin
to stack positive days. Good days on top of good days,
and eventually you get to where you want to be.
Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
Right talking about Grace, Let's talk about the old time
leading Russia, Emmitt Smith and what would a talk show
be in this time of the year without talking about
Michael Parsons. We haven't talked about Michael Parsons yet, but EMMITTT.
Smith said he had his own contract to dispute with
Cowboys owner Jerry Jones way back in nineteen ninety three.
And he said it wasn't really a holdout because he
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didn't have a contract. He left leverage. Bless you, bless you,
my friend Michael parsonsho's holding out with Dallas. He does
have leverage. Okay, what's the difference, Bucket Brooks both want
more money and them it had the position over Parsons.
That running back position obviously was a little more glamorous.
I would think that what Parsons plays well.
Speaker 4 (01:28:55):
The difference was emmittt was a free agent. He wasn't
signed to anybody. So Parsons is on the contract.
Speaker 3 (01:29:01):
Misa.
Speaker 4 (01:29:01):
Parsons has to show up or he has to pay
a series of fines that I mean, they scale up
quickly in terms of the amount of costs that we
heard him in his pocketbook, and those things are non refundable,
meaning you can't wipe those away.
Speaker 3 (01:29:16):
That's one of the primary differences.
Speaker 4 (01:29:19):
But Mica doesn't really have a choice, Like he can
beg and plead for a new contract, but the Cowboys
aren't obligated to give him a new contract. They can
play this out. They picked up the option. He's playing
on an option. They can wait and put the franchise
tag on him, and they can put the franchise tag
on him a second time if they wanted to.
Speaker 3 (01:29:38):
He doesn't have leverage in this situation. He needs to.
Speaker 4 (01:29:42):
I don't want to say play nice, but he's kind
of the mercy of Jerry Jones right now.
Speaker 3 (01:29:46):
You know he wants his bread in those things.
Speaker 4 (01:29:48):
But withholding services, really it's only detrimental to him because
it's so putative in the pocketbook. He has to make
a decision how long does he want to play this
out hopes of trying to secure a deal.
Speaker 1 (01:30:02):
Same thing with Trey Hendrickson in Cincinnati. Really, he's got
a contract.
Speaker 4 (01:30:06):
He has the contract, and they made it the last
collective bargaining agreement. They made it so punitive when it
came to holdouts, so it wiped away significant leverage for
players looking for new contracts and deals in those things.
That's why some of the people, you know, when it
came to the PA doing agreeing to the CBA, some
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people felt like some of the players got so short
because of little things like this that really hamstrings their
ability to push and get more money.
Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
Right in nineteen ninety two, Ema Smith became the first
player to win a rushing title in the Super Bowl
in the same year, and he wanted some more money,
and he was a restricted free agent. He could talk
to the other teams, but the Cowboys could match any
offer or receive some drift compensation, and he still had
the contract coming in his way. You know he's going
to do that because what happened was that year the
Cowboys started the season without Emitt Smith and they went
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on too. So basically that and it may happen this
year with Michael Parsons, who knows.
Speaker 1 (01:31:05):
I don't know, Yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (01:31:06):
It's gonna be cost It's gonna cost him money.
Speaker 4 (01:31:08):
Even Chris Jones when he did this a couple of
years ago, and they can't see that Chiefs won the
Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (01:31:13):
He talked about it.
Speaker 4 (01:31:14):
He never really made that money back up the two
million dollars that he lost and fines. He still didn't
say that it was worth it cost him a lot
of bucks.
Speaker 2 (01:31:24):
Sure, you gotta be crazy too, I mean you really do.
I mean I get it. You want to you want
to get what your contemporaries are making. Okay, and uh, TJ.
Watt and Trey Hendrickson did the like night and day.
Trey Hendrickson is not in watch league. There's no way
he's not gonna end that kind of money.
Speaker 3 (01:31:42):
Okay, I hear you say that.
Speaker 4 (01:31:43):
But then when you look at the numbers the top
three sack artists the last five years, Miles Garrett, TJ. Watt,
Trey Hendrickson. So you can say that they're not the
same league stylistically or whatever, but the numbers say, hey,
I'm right there with them. So if my numbers, my
production is right there with them, then I need to
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get paid just like they got packed. I mean that,
I mean that, that's just what it is. Because Andy,
let's be honest. If we were on a show every
day and I showed rated like color coward, then you
and I would be knocking on the on the door.
Speaker 2 (01:32:16):
Hey, hey, but but it's different. I tell you what,
you have to do the same. Look what they do.
We talked about TJ. Watt and and and Hendricks and
all of those guys. They play on Sundays together in
the same league at the same time. We are not
at the same time as he was. So if they
let us do that time, dude, know he does this time.
(01:32:36):
That's how you judge it. It's like night and day.
Speaker 1 (01:32:38):
I don't know. Yeah, that's a fair comparison.
Speaker 4 (01:32:40):
See, but if we did have the same thing, I'm
just saying, like, if we were earning ratings like Coward,
they're doing the same block. We want money that is
comparable to that because those guys play the same position,
the numbers are comparable. And I'm Trey Henderson. Why would
I give Cincinnati a discount because I love the city?
Speaker 3 (01:32:59):
Nah?
Speaker 4 (01:32:59):
I mean, like, okay, I'll shave two hundred and fifty
thousand off of my requests, so it's not gonna be
forty one to be forty seven fifty. But yeah, you're
gonna pay me the same kind of money that you're
paying them. And this is the Bengals fault for allowing
this to drag out because the price never goes down,
it only goes Well, it's better, it's better to dig
(01:33:20):
found that out in front of the chase. Yeah like
last year. Yeah, like we're doing this. T Higgins all that.
It's more, it's costs prohibitive to wait. They should have
been on the front end of this, particularly when they.
Speaker 2 (01:33:35):
If you breakdown Troy Hendrickson's game by game, he had
no sacks against the Ravens and those sacks against the Steelers.
He had four sacks against a bad Las Vegas Raiders team,
So I think that Yeah, he led the league in
sacks for seventeen and a half, but look who he
did it against.
Speaker 1 (01:33:49):
I think that's a key also.
Speaker 4 (01:33:51):
I mean it can be, but at the end of
the day and a bottom line, business is about the
bottom line, and the bottom line is I leave the
twin twenty four season as the king when it comes
to sack artistry. I now can compare my sales to
two guys that were first round picks who've done it.
Miles Garrett got his bread, TJ. Watt just got his.
(01:34:13):
Well guess what, guys, I'm right there, So okay, you
don't want to pay me more than them. Cool, I
still got to be right there. It's almost like price
is right, Showcase, Showdown. You gotta pay me my money.
You gotta give me my money. I've wanted. You got
to give me my money.
Speaker 1 (01:34:26):
So it's I'll come back and say this, A.
Speaker 2 (01:34:28):
You got a contract, and B you didn't believe much
in yourself by signing that contract.
Speaker 1 (01:34:32):
You should have signed a one year deal. Really, I mean,
if you thought so much.
Speaker 4 (01:34:37):
Right, But the market has escalated so much, salary cap explosion,
all those things. When he signed his deal, we were
in a different landscape. Now it has completely changed. With
pass rushers getting quarterback money forty million dollars.
Speaker 3 (01:34:53):
Man, we never saw that from pass rushers.
Speaker 4 (01:34:56):
I mean Aaron Donald to me, I think was the
first one that kind of pushed to quarterback money at
thirty million.
Speaker 3 (01:35:02):
Now they're at forty. But Noanay's crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:35:05):
It is crazy. What was you up?
Speaker 3 (01:35:07):
And I mean not like that.
Speaker 4 (01:35:12):
Cornerbacks are still down or whatever. They're just now getting
to the thirty million dollar more. Derek Stingley Sauce Gardener.
Those guys are just getting there. Wide receivers have been
above thirty four a while, but you know, the league
is you know, a reactionary.
Speaker 3 (01:35:26):
It takes a while. You got to push it up
and do those things.
Speaker 4 (01:35:29):
In Trey Henderson, Yeah, Trey Henderson has waited patiently.
Speaker 3 (01:35:34):
Kind of pay him.
Speaker 2 (01:35:35):
That's what I wished with thirty million when I put
down my two dollars for my lottery ticket.
Speaker 1 (01:35:39):
Thirty million, that's what I would.
Speaker 4 (01:35:42):
It'd be much easier if you can go, if you
can go sack the quarterback against the Las Vegas Raiders,
and then you may be able to get it.
Speaker 1 (01:35:48):
You know, really and truly.
Speaker 2 (01:35:49):
If I knew that then when I was in high school,
you know, to play football, that I didn't have to
have really, I hate to use the word, not a
lot of talent, but more of a mindset to just
get the quarterback. You know, you really know the quarterback
a great athen Am I wrong on that? You don't
have to be a great athlete. If I have the
willpower to get over a guy and beat the guy
(01:36:11):
and go after a guy like a head hunter, then
then you got.
Speaker 1 (01:36:14):
A mate, right, That's that's the attitude you need.
Speaker 4 (01:36:18):
Yeah, you gotta be Yeah, you gotta be a tail kicker,
and you gotta have some crustiness to you some feistiness.
Speaker 3 (01:36:23):
You got that. Now, we just got to give you
a signess.
Speaker 1 (01:36:26):
I got a sport. I gotta be on the microphone,
not a football.
Speaker 4 (01:36:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:36:30):
Yeah, we just got to get you. We just got
to get you a go to move and we got
to get you a counter to compliment that. And then, man,
you're golden.
Speaker 1 (01:36:38):
One of my sons had it in football. He did,
he really did. But he was a running back. He
did well, he really did.
Speaker 3 (01:36:44):
But okay, I mean that that that you have to
have it, you have to he did.
Speaker 2 (01:36:50):
He had that will. I mean, he just had the desire,
which is really great. And I didn't push him. I mean,
you know, how can I push?
Speaker 1 (01:36:56):
What do I do?
Speaker 4 (01:36:57):
I mean, you know I wanted to see, right, But
you get mad because Mike Browl wouldn't pay your son either.
Speaker 1 (01:37:03):
Right, so I gotta pay you to know that about
all right?
Speaker 2 (01:37:08):
You told about holdouts, right, what about the commander is
the Commander's offense that was really shocked about that because
their offensive cordnet Cliff Kingsbury said that we know we
just don't have it.
Speaker 1 (01:37:18):
We need to return. That's big.
Speaker 2 (01:37:20):
When the offensive cord then comes out and says we
need Terry McLaurin to return right now, and I think
he will. I would hope he would come back. I
mean you would think he would. Right was last year
and now he was their offense. You know, jayde and
Daniel and McLaurin were last year's office. They were fifteen
points in the league, seventh in yards last year, and
he caught a career best thirteen touchdowns and twelve of
(01:37:40):
those touchdowns came from Jade and Daniels.
Speaker 4 (01:37:44):
I mean, they need him, they need him to come back,
they need him in a major way. It's important for
them to get him signed and locked and loaded because
he's such a pivotal part of what they do and
if they can get him inked to a deal, it
just makes everything easy for him. And so to me,
it's just important that they find a way to get
it done, uh asap, as soon as possible.
Speaker 3 (01:38:07):
Let's get this done.
Speaker 2 (01:38:08):
What was it this ugly when you play with holdout?
I don't remember it, I really don't. I mean I
don't think. I mean it's left and right like that.
Speaker 4 (01:38:17):
I mean it's part of it. I mean, it's part
of the process.
Speaker 3 (01:38:19):
And you have to be.
Speaker 4 (01:38:22):
You got to have to tum me for it. You know,
you got to have the stomach for for being able
to kind of go and deal with some of these things.
Like little Dumper may not have the tummy to be.
Speaker 1 (01:38:32):
Able to withstand some of the unemails with.
Speaker 3 (01:38:39):
A little Dumper. You may not you may not be
able to like kind of handle some.
Speaker 1 (01:38:42):
Of the stuff when it comes to it.
Speaker 3 (01:38:44):
But it's okay, like you just have to. You just
gotta be able to rock.
Speaker 2 (01:38:48):
But you know who's got the stomach for it, I'll
tell you Jerry Jones and Mike Brown. They lived for
that stuff. I mean they really And I think I
read something the other day that Jerry Jones said, it's
good for the Dallas Cowboys when we have something like
this because it gets our name out there. I guess,
especially when the team is not doing well, people are
talking about the Dallas Cowboys. That's like the lead story
(01:39:09):
of the NFL preseason right now, Michael Parsons, that's the story.
Speaker 4 (01:39:14):
And sometimes some guys would say that any news is
good news, And for Jerry Jones and that crew, it
probably is true. He is probably okay with dealing with
some of this stuff that you have to deal with
to get to the other side.
Speaker 2 (01:39:33):
Well, I mean that's what he does, and I guess
he does it rather well. But over the lass several years,
over the least twenty five years, honestly, they haven't done much.
But there's still America's team. People love the Dallas Cowboys.
I love to go to Jerry's place where they play.
And you know, really and truly that's on everybody's tongue
right now. Is Michael Parsons Willie Awoni. I mean I
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think he will. But Jerry's got people talking Dallas Cowboys football.
Speaker 1 (01:39:58):
That's what he wants.
Speaker 9 (01:40:00):
He does.
Speaker 3 (01:40:01):
I mean, he's a showman. He digs it. He's a showman.
Speaker 4 (01:40:04):
Like I mean, think about how many people could make
the kind of money and have the franchise evaluation that
the Cowboys have and they have him been close to
stiff in a Super Bowl in almost thirty years.
Speaker 3 (01:40:16):
I think about that, like it's the greatest trick.
Speaker 4 (01:40:19):
He should be in Vegas on the streets just playing
like whatever that three cards shuffle where they kind of
do all the stuff or whatever, like that's what he
has because yeah, oh my god, they can't.
Speaker 3 (01:40:30):
Figure it out. It is a great trick that he's
been able to pull off and he does it.
Speaker 2 (01:40:36):
It's funny you mentioned that, but they don't have the evaluations.
The other day that came out. I think the Shinnei
Bengals will last. I mean really, I mean, and I
is it the It can't be the market size because
I don't think market means much in the National Football League.
Was Green Bay is right up there, and you know,
everybody is equal. It's not like a baseball you know,
where there are different budgets. They got the cap and
things like that. So I don't know why the Bengals
(01:40:57):
will be down so far. Really, you would think other
teams would be not the Bengals.
Speaker 4 (01:41:05):
No. I mean like it's probably all the assets, right,
so you take stadium, whoever owns the stadium, taking about
their own facility, you tink about everything that they have.
Then you think about like the steady stream of money
when it comes to ad revenue, star like potential, all
of that, Like the brand the Cowboys huge brand synonymous
(01:41:25):
with the National Football League America's team. As you reference
the Moniker, the Green Bay package that you reference, title town,
the popularity of the team, it transcends generations.
Speaker 3 (01:41:39):
The Bengals, I love them.
Speaker 4 (01:41:40):
And when I was a kid, I used to like
the stripes when they change their helway from the letters
B and G a ls to the stripes, I thought
that was creative as a kid. That got me. But
I can't say that they have like the tradition to
lure everybody. And even though Beingals, fans are some of
the most devoted fans that I know. And I would
(01:42:01):
say the Browns fan base and their evaluation is probably
more significant because they still have a national appeal I guess,
which goes back to their original days when they started playing.
Speaker 2 (01:42:12):
You know, I'd rather than seeing the evaluations of how
much these teams are worth, I'd rather like to see
how much of the memorabilia or you know, jerseys are
sold throughout the country. I got to believe Dallas is
right up there, if not number one. But other than that,
maybe the Eagles right now because they won the Super
Bowl last year, But you don't see a lot of
Cleveland Browns. I think the Raiders are up there too.
(01:42:33):
As far as people wearing Radish jerseys and caps around
the country.
Speaker 4 (01:42:36):
Right, Yeah, brand names, big brands, national teams, not just regional.
They have a broad following an appeal.
Speaker 3 (01:42:44):
Yeah, I'll say that.
Speaker 4 (01:42:45):
But now I do see Browns backers kind of everywhere.
I do see like their little fan base extend. But
maybe because they also they disappeared. Remember they went to Baltimore.
Then they came back in ninety nine. It hasn't really
been the same. They haven't been good and as good
as the Ravens.
Speaker 1 (01:43:01):
Then you mentioned that back.
Speaker 2 (01:43:02):
I don't see a lot of Ravens stuff around the country.
I don't see a lot of Ravens caps and jerseys.
Speaker 3 (01:43:06):
Maybe no, that's the national thing.
Speaker 4 (01:43:08):
Because also I think parents passed down their fandom. So
the Ravens are still, you know, like ninety six. Yeah,
so they haven't been around as long. Whereas you know,
I don't know where you got your Giants fandom from.
I don't know if that was your dad or your
granddad or whoever originally turned you on. But a lot
(01:43:29):
of times our fandom is passed down because the pop
supports and so then what was he Dowey exposes his
son or daughter to those teams. They go to those
games and they watch them on the tube, that's tore
them on the radio, and before you know it, you're
a fan. They got you locked in.
Speaker 1 (01:43:45):
You know, you're so right.
Speaker 2 (01:43:46):
I'll tell you a funny story about that, because when
I was a kid, I loved the Yankees, and I
can even I could tell you, like I could real
love the numbers right now. I remember Cleet Boy was
number six playing third base, Tony Kopeck, show stop number ten,
Bobby Richardson's second base, number one, Moose SCN first place fourteen.
Speaker 1 (01:44:01):
I can't do that now, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:44:04):
Maybe I know certain numbers on certain teams, the New
York Football Giants. I raan love some of the front
four before for you. I remember they had a tight end.
But I think this is crazy. I don't know why
I remember him number eighty eight, Aaron Thomas. I mean
these are guys that I remember, Tucker Fredericson in the
back court, in the backfield with Ernie Coy. I mean,
just uh, those are the guys you probably do you
(01:44:25):
remember Tucker Fredericson, No, yes.
Speaker 3 (01:44:27):
And Dick him on that That's what Coley I remember, Marko.
I know Howard. I know how Howard cross.
Speaker 2 (01:44:37):
Up with you know Tyke from watching these games. I
loved it, you know, and I went to the games.
So I don't know, but he played Yankee. Yeah, nice, unreal,
it really is, all right, He's Bucket Brooks and Andy Firmer.
We have Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. Get
him on x at Bucket Brooks and Andy furmant FSR
eight seven seven ninety nine on that's the number eight
(01:45:01):
seven seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine the
Blaying game at the bottom of this hour.
Speaker 1 (01:45:05):
But but he does want to coach again, would you
hire him? That's next?
Speaker 2 (01:45:11):
All right, this is no joke. You'll hear about it
in just about a minute. He's Bucket Brooks, He's no joke.
I'm Andy Furman. We are Fox Sports Sunday on Foxborths Radio.
We're live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. We've got
the Blaine game in about ten twelve minutes from now.
And believe it or not, asking you shall receive because
my brother lives in Pennsylvania and he just wrote back
to me.
Speaker 1 (01:45:29):
He said.
Speaker 2 (01:45:29):
The San Francisco forty nine Ers are the top selling
NFL team in jersey sales, according to Fanatics. Within the
forty nine Ers, Christian McCaffrey's jersey is the best selling.
According to Bleacher Report, McCaffrey, Patrick Mahomes, Hurts Parsons lead
the top ten NFL jersey sales in twenty four to
twenty five.
Speaker 1 (01:45:49):
How do you like that? So there we go to
forty nine ers.
Speaker 4 (01:45:51):
How do you like?
Speaker 1 (01:45:52):
Who would have thunked that? I never would have thought
the forty nine ers would be their.
Speaker 3 (01:45:55):
Book in terms of jersey sales. Why not?
Speaker 4 (01:45:58):
Well, wouldn't you think they just think by the popularity
of the best players, George Kittle, You think about Christian McCaffrey,
all those things.
Speaker 3 (01:46:06):
Yeah, it makes sense to me.
Speaker 2 (01:46:08):
All right, let's move back to nc AS nc double
A college football and basketball. What would it be without payouts, cheating, fraud,
changing grades, and spying and of course downright cheating. But
who gets caught and who pays when the punishments are
levy case in point right now, the NCUBA came down
on the University of Michigan's advanced scouting case just the
(01:46:31):
other day, and the size of the fines like twenty million,
which is just like lunch meal for the University of Michigan.
Believe me, Head coach Cheron Moore two game suspension. Jim Harbaugh,
now with the charges and I love him, I really do.
But he was the problem. He was the coach CEO
at the time. He gets a ten year show course penalty,
big freaking deal. He's not going to go back in
(01:46:52):
coach college football, so schools can't hire him in the future.
Speaker 1 (01:46:55):
Big deal. He's serving a current four year show course
right now from a previous cent A case. So who
gets hurt the athletes?
Speaker 2 (01:47:03):
The athletes now with the nil out there and play
I guess a lot of these athletes, if they get
suspension of miss playoff opportunities, been gonna look to leave.
It's stupid. The whole situation is crazy, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (01:47:17):
I mean, look, there's a lot that's going on. When
it comes to it, the hand signal thing, I didn't
know it, mushroom and to what has become.
Speaker 3 (01:47:25):
But here we are, the show calls penalty for Jim
Harbaugh ten.
Speaker 4 (01:47:29):
Years a long time, Sharon Moore having to serve additional
games when it comes to suspension, whatever moneies that were
generated and lost and all that is significant. It's an impact.
But you know what, doesn't change the fact that they
won the Natty champions. That doesn't change the fact that
you can roll out look at the shiny riggy thing
(01:47:50):
to recognize and appreciate them as the best team in
the league.
Speaker 3 (01:47:53):
And so even though they will be the butt of
all these jokes.
Speaker 4 (01:47:58):
Yeah, I mean, I would say that Ohio State's championship
this past year might have an ask you because they lost.
Speaker 3 (01:48:05):
The big game, you know, to Michigan, Like, so you
can't change those things. It's uh yeah, I mean you.
Speaker 1 (01:48:13):
Know what, you can't change the cheating. It's still gonna
go on, it really will. I mean, what is nil.
Speaker 2 (01:48:20):
It's legalized cheating. Back in the day, they gave you
a bag of money. Now they do it on top
of the table instead of under.
Speaker 3 (01:48:26):
I mean, I wouldn't call it the bag of cheating.
Speaker 4 (01:48:28):
I mean it's different now because it's not only nil
now with the revenue share, which is a different deal
of revenue share coming from the university. They're sharing in
the money that's made NIL was pay for play, like
we're paying guys to come play for us. It's a
little bit of a difference we see now.
Speaker 2 (01:48:47):
Speaking of coaches, I ask you, should this gentleman get
another shot? And it's just the way to go about it.
In the media, mentioning a select program the list I'm
talking about. John Gruden says he wants to coach college
footb all right, and I think he will because of
his name and as far as he's concerned. He's a
bit of a celebrity really because working with the Four
(01:49:09):
Letter Network with that quarterback show kids not this guy.
Speaker 10 (01:49:12):
You know.
Speaker 1 (01:49:12):
I'm not going to compare him as far as success.
Speaker 2 (01:49:15):
With the on Sanders, but he's a little bit like
the On Sanders because he's a personality. I think John
Gruden will get a job as coaching college football. But
he went to the Georgia practice the other day and
he basically said in front of the Georgia kids and
the coaching staff, this is what he wants to do.
I didn't think it was the right place or time,
but he sure got what he wanted. He got everybody
talking about it.
Speaker 4 (01:49:36):
Look man, everything that he's done over the last year
has been calculated. You may not have been paying attention
to him, but I do what he coached me. He's
one of my former coaches and demanded I played for
I respected a ton right.
Speaker 3 (01:49:49):
I spected Gruden he was a young rock star.
Speaker 4 (01:49:52):
Was his first season with the Oakland Raiders had the energy,
had the quote unquote juice, as they would say, he
had that great offensive mind. What he's done with Barstool
is he has been more active. He's going to more
college campuses. He's delivered various motivational talks to these collegiate teams,
and he was setting the table for what he eventually
(01:50:16):
wants to do, which is the leader program. No matter what,
and it doesn't matter how much money he makes off
a settlement, what he's been able to gather from others
and that stuff entities. He may love money, but man,
there's nothing ever places coaching. And for him, man, he's
dying without coaching, dying without it. Because once he got
(01:50:36):
back in, he went all in Derek Carr the Raiders,
they were on the verge of being a really good team.
He didn't get a chance to complete the project. Is
driving him crazy, which is why he wants to get
back in.
Speaker 1 (01:50:50):
You know, and you gotta be shocked with his pedigree.
Speaker 2 (01:50:53):
I mean, he went to the University of Dayton and
he was like a third string quarterback on a Division
III program.
Speaker 1 (01:50:58):
I mean, really and truly, you know what he has done,
what he's accomplished.
Speaker 2 (01:51:02):
I mean, I think those people who were at Dayton
at the time are so much shocked how far he
advanced in football because that doesn't normally happen at a
school like Dayton.
Speaker 4 (01:51:14):
No, but he also had somebonsistence along the way, nothing
wrong with that, like family members, part of organizations that
kind of cracked the door. And then he did what
he did with the opportunities. But he had opportunities a
little bit based on the name, family name, and then
he looked. He knocked the doors down, became a great coach,
won a Super Bowl with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and
(01:51:37):
all of that. So he deserves credit for that. Now,
the tricky thing for him to navigate is all of
the salacious information that came out regarding the emails. When
he goes to a collegiate campus and he's leading young
people and those young people are going to be a
diverse population, he might have to explain a way some
(01:52:00):
the emails and some of the innuindo that were in
the that the racial tropes that were in those emails,
and if he can stand on it and help people
become comfortable with him as the coach, as the leader
of the team, as the one that is shaping a
generation from eighteen to twenty three. That's going to be
(01:52:21):
the thing that's the sticking point that he has to
overcome when it comes to the university's first to parents
and the kids, but really at the top, you know,
higher edge institutions.
Speaker 3 (01:52:32):
I think you want to deal with some of that stuff.
But like the way, well.
Speaker 1 (01:52:37):
Yeah, wherever, I'm sorry, go ahead, Oh no, no, no,
we're good. Okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (01:52:42):
But you know, as soon as he gets hired, the
story is going to be such and such school hired
for X amount of years, here's the contract. But back
in the day, he had those emails who sent by
him that include racist and sexist remarks and language, And
he's got the answer that's gonna be in the hiring story.
Speaker 1 (01:53:02):
It has to be.
Speaker 4 (01:53:04):
Right. It is it is, and look, fortunately or unfortunate
whatever it is. Like the tide of the country is
turning where that might not be a big of an
issue as it is as it would have been a
few years ago. Like he may be able to move
beyond that because like just kind of where we're at,
you know, in the country and the landscape and the
(01:53:25):
way people perceive those things to be. Whatever side you
stand on from a political standpoint like that might not
matter or have as big of an impact as it
would have had, and so.
Speaker 3 (01:53:36):
That might make it easier for institution to roll with him.
Speaker 4 (01:53:40):
But remember this, even before that, Hugh Freeze at Auburn
who went from Old Miss to Liberty or whatever, he
has some stuff in his background that he's been able
to overcome. Bobby Petrino has had some stuff in his
background that he had to overcome. There are others who've
had to overcome things. Yeah, Ray Patinos. So so it
(01:54:02):
can be done, and it will be done in John
Gruten's case if he builds the right case to make
people who are doing the hiring comfortable.
Speaker 2 (01:54:15):
I would say that John Gruden will get a job
coaching college football next year, next season.
Speaker 4 (01:54:24):
Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't doubt it. I'm just curious
to see levels. Is it High D one major program
that does it, Is it a group of five program
that's willing to do it. Is it a division program
that doesn't. That's that's the only thing I'm trying to
figure out. Where is it going to happen? But yeah,
(01:54:46):
they're I mean, they're countless jobs. He's qualified in terms
of what he's done on the field to be able
to do it. And after you see Belichick go to
North Carolina and those things he's seeing. Okay, there's a
there's a way for me to get in the mix
and find find find a role and find a niche
for myself.
Speaker 3 (01:55:04):
Here we go.
Speaker 2 (01:55:05):
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Speaker 1 (01:55:26):
After we get up the year. Now you could yell
and scream if you like, you could point your.
Speaker 2 (01:55:30):
Finger, but the blame Game is freaking next on the
Blame Game coming right up by eleven minutes before the
top of the hour, which would be nine o'clock on
the East Coast.
Speaker 1 (01:55:40):
That we're live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.
Speaker 2 (01:55:42):
And by the way, nine o'clock East Coast time Countdown
with Brian Know, Jeff Schwartz, Bill Krackenberger right here on
Fox Sports Radio. So you have no reason to go
anywhere else, but right now it's time for the playing game.
Speaker 12 (01:55:56):
You ruin me, it's all your fault. It's your fault,
your fault. Maybe it's everyone's faults.
Speaker 9 (01:56:08):
He's a liar. That's why there's the blame game.
Speaker 1 (01:56:11):
Let's figure out who to blame. He's a liar and
his name is Eldie.
Speaker 12 (01:56:15):
He's a liar.
Speaker 8 (01:56:16):
That's something. That's what the l n LD is for liar, liar, liar, lying, dumper.
That's me.
Speaker 10 (01:56:22):
All right, Well I got one for us guys. I
got one to blame. So Luca don says, we know
Luca Lakers. That's that's my guy.
Speaker 8 (01:56:30):
Apparently, he was.
Speaker 10 (01:56:31):
Playing in a Slovenian euro basketball game, Slovenia versus Latvia.
He appeared two limp off the court and injured his
knee getting ran into by a teammate.
Speaker 8 (01:56:43):
Who do you blame for all this going on while
playing EuroBasket? Who do you blame? Andy?
Speaker 1 (01:56:48):
I blame himself because he lost too much weight.
Speaker 2 (01:56:50):
If he hadn't let weight on him, he wouldn't have
been banged around, right, He'd be like a hot thing
to move. He'd be like a telephone pole, that's what
he'd be. Now he's too skinny, heat.
Speaker 3 (01:57:04):
You want him to eat.
Speaker 4 (01:57:05):
We complain about him being out of shape. Now he's
in shape and skinny. He gets banged a round. It's okay.
Speaker 2 (01:57:11):
He'll beavericks to the playoffs.
Speaker 10 (01:57:15):
So he's out of shape, he gets made fun of
him for being fat, and you're telling him to My god,
no one's ever happy with.
Speaker 3 (01:57:27):
Yeah, he was a porker. We needed to get him.
We need to get him down.
Speaker 10 (01:57:31):
Yeah, seriously. Oh lord, thank you, mighty, thank you, thank you.
All right, So it seems the w n b A
has more fisticuffs than the NBA. Do women like to
fight more than men? Who do you blame on this one?
Speaker 8 (01:57:45):
Bucky?
Speaker 7 (01:57:46):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (01:57:47):
More than men?
Speaker 4 (01:57:48):
I wouldn't say yes, But it's a little feisty. It's
a little feisty, little spicy, taking close the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (01:57:55):
I'm okay with it.
Speaker 4 (01:57:56):
I mean, who doesn't like to see a good brawl
every now and then?
Speaker 1 (01:57:58):
I'm gonna have my wife joined the U n b A.
How's that sounds?
Speaker 3 (01:58:02):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (01:58:04):
All right?
Speaker 1 (01:58:06):
I blame that the women like to fight. That got
you know why not. It's great. You want to blame,
blame the commissioner. She hasn't stopped it. She's weak. That
commission is really weak.
Speaker 3 (01:58:14):
In the w n B A did you go?
Speaker 1 (01:58:16):
I enjoy watching him.
Speaker 8 (01:58:19):
Have more questions?
Speaker 1 (01:58:20):
Is really starting it all to Sophie Cunningham. She's getting
it going to.
Speaker 3 (01:58:26):
She's popular.
Speaker 8 (01:58:27):
Yeah, I have more questions, but that's for another day.
Speaker 10 (01:58:31):
Moving on, we have after more than a year to
your time, NFL MVP Lamar Jackson has withdrawn his challenge
to Pro Football Hall of Fame qby Troy Aigman's use
of the number eight in trademarks.
Speaker 8 (01:58:43):
Who do you blame for this one?
Speaker 9 (01:58:44):
Andy?
Speaker 2 (01:58:45):
I don't blame anybody. I think Lamar finally got small. Say,
you know, the heck with it? Let him have his number.
You know what, who cares?
Speaker 1 (01:58:51):
No one knows who? Eight committees now anyway, yesterday's news.
Speaker 4 (01:58:56):
I mean I can really understand what the deal was,
what he was aiming for. But yeah, I mean I'm
okay with him dropping it. I mean people are gonna
follow Lamar because he's a cultural icon, so he'd be fun.
Speaker 8 (01:59:07):
Yes, yes, all right, guys.
Speaker 10 (01:59:09):
Well, the Big Twelve will release player availability reports for
football and men's and women's basketball before all conference games,
daily injury reports and the like like that, et cetera.
Speaker 8 (01:59:21):
Who do you blame Bucky?
Speaker 4 (01:59:23):
The gamblers? The gamblers d that, that's not this is
not anything for the fans.
Speaker 3 (01:59:28):
Why do we here?
Speaker 4 (01:59:29):
The only reason we here is because we're putting a
small little wager on these games, and the availability helps us.
Speaker 3 (01:59:36):
That's what this is about. Like, it is what it is.
Like we were with the sportsbooks.
Speaker 2 (01:59:40):
Now this is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of,
because not only it's gonna affect the gamblers and the
gambling casino deals because they're gonna bet on these games,
but more than that, all of a sudden, now the players.
Speaker 1 (01:59:52):
Are gonna bet on it.
Speaker 2 (01:59:53):
You're gonna see more players getting in trouble for gambling.
I promise you probably. I don't think there aren't that. Like, wait,
how many people go to a casino in Vegas and
bet on a Big twelve women's basketball game?
Speaker 1 (02:00:06):
Are you freaking kidding me? Really?
Speaker 2 (02:00:08):
You gotta be a downright degenerate to been on a
woman's Big twelve basketball game?
Speaker 1 (02:00:13):
Really?
Speaker 4 (02:00:13):
I mean, I mean I can't do it, but I
mean I wouldn't put it past me if I had
the freedom and to be able to do it. I mean,
there's some good games out there, Andy, there's some good teams.
Big Twiff Texas is good. There's some other teams. I mean,
there's some teams out there. I would you know, the
friendly wager every now and then would be okay, you.
Speaker 2 (02:00:32):
Think so, I don't know. I'll talk that the Countdown
guys on the next show. I'm gonna listen see if
they talk about that. Because it's crazy, it's not good,
it's not healthy. It's not a good thing. I'm telling
you because it brings sports down. There we go, and
speaking of that Countdowns right around the corner, you guys
have thank you for your hell of great week.
Speaker 1 (02:00:49):
Buckets. Feel better see a Sunday right here on Fox
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