Andy Furman & Bucky Brooks React To A Wild Week One Of College Football, Micah Parson's The Packer, Arch Manning's Not So Stellar Debut, The Legend Of LD, And More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
My guy, Bucky Brooks, Hello, Buck, how are you?

Speaker 4 (00:32):
What's going on? Andy? What's happening?

Speaker 2 (00:34):
I want to know how many games you watched yesterday?
I just like to know that that goes. You're like
a machine.

Speaker 4 (00:39):
I know, uh man, I can't even I just know
the TV was on NonStop from beginning to end. Once
we had Texas Ohio State, it stayed onto the wei.
I was little warn even watching UCLA in Utah to
cap it off.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Wow, amazing. I only watched about three and a half
maybe four games. I don't want to burn myself out
too early, but will I'll ask you this yesterday and
the Associated Press top twenty five teams. Okay, five of
those teams lost yesterday. My question is this, how in
the hell can you have preseason rankings from the Associated

(01:13):
Press before they even play?

Speaker 3 (01:14):
I don't get that.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
And more than that, how is Ohio State defending champions
rank number three?

Speaker 3 (01:20):
I mean, figure that out. I don't understand that. Fit.
Help me with that, will you.

Speaker 5 (01:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
It's one of the things that's always been a challenge
when it comes to college football because college football doesn't
have a preseason. You don't have live scrimmages, So how
do you know what a team really looks like until
they started playing games? In reality, they shouldn't have the
rankings until after the third week of the season, after
we've seen the game, seen some games, seeing teams make
some improvements and corrections, and then settle into who they are.

(01:50):
Coaches would tell you don't really know your team until
after you play about four games. After you play four games,
you know the difference between what you want to do
and what you got to do based on what the
team has. And so as teams are going through that
discovery process, we then begin to learn who the real

(02:11):
players are. I mean, which teams are really legitimate, which
teams are really contenders and which teams are pretended. So
really you should ignore all the preseason talk, whether it's rankings,
whether it's Heisman chatter, all of that, because what we
found out yesterday or Saturday, and what we found out
so far, we know nothing about who's who and what's

(02:32):
what when it comes to it.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Thank you, okay, And look, I know it's good fun
to talk about that. That and the Associated Press so
call Associated Press top twenty five. Five of those teams
lost three in the so called top ten, and Texas
became the first preseason number one team to lose its
opening game since nineteen ninety when Miami feil to Brigham Young.

(02:54):
But enough of that, let's get right into this situation,
because thank you. Finally Brian Kelly wins an opener at LSU. Okay,
and they wins it in Death Valley. That was one
heck of a game. And look, I enjoyed the games yesterday.
I would think that obviously, like in baseball, I think
perhaps maybe the defense is a little ahead of the
offense right now early on. Could that be true or

(03:15):
just happen to work out that way yesterday?

Speaker 4 (03:19):
I mean, some of that is true, but you know,
It's really hard because what defense is reactionary and it's
aggressive by nature, but you are reacting to what the
offense is doing. The offense requires more what I called
timing and precision, so the execution can be a little faulty,
a little wonky.

Speaker 6 (03:38):
That's why you see like the fall.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
Stars to penalties, the legal formations in those things. But look,
look it's six on one hand, half a dozen on
the other. Sometimes the offense has a better rhythm because
on defense you're putting in so many new players. I
think ultimately it comes down to preparation on that first
game and how you approach the first game. Some people

(04:01):
overthink the first game because you have so much time
to prepare for that first opponent. Maybe you put too
much time in and the mind can get stale, and
then they do something different and it.

Speaker 6 (04:10):
Throws you off.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
Some people don't put enough preparation time into it.

Speaker 6 (04:15):
They wait to just a week of the game to
get ready.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
So it's that fine line between being inundated with too
much information and having just enough to be able to
go out and play fast.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Mark the last time my LSU won a season opens
when Joe Borrow was a quarterback back in twenty nineteen,
and look, I looked at that game yesterday. I was
looking forward to seeing Garrett and Lismaya the quarterback of LSU,
Kate Klubnick, quarterback of Clemson. I thought it was gonna
be a high scoring, shootout kind of game. But you
talk about defense right now, LSU, and this is an
unbelievable statistic. I'm not a statinut, but LSU held Clemson

(04:50):
to thirty one rushing yards in the second half. That
was unreal for me.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Why the way they played and to me in the
first half, I thought Clemson's defense looked a lot better
then LSU's.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
Yeah, I mean, look, I think this is a situation
where Clemson is loaded. When we talk about talent, and
I'll talk about talent from an NFL standpoint, Clemson is
loaded on defense with NFL talent. When Clemson has been
their best is because they're loaded with first round talent
on their defensive lines. That continues to be true. And
early in the game they were having their way in
the trenches. But as the game with on and as

(05:25):
LSU settled in in the second half, in particular, you
saw them begin to kind of have some success moving
the football, running the football in those things, and then defensively,
man give Lsu a lot of credit.

Speaker 6 (05:36):
They hung in there.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
They turned off the faucet when it came to the running,
and they forced k klube Nick to have to be
a thrower, and he wasn't as effective as many of
us expected him to be. And so it's a major
issue for Clemson. But the great thing when you play
these these tough games early, you get a greater sense
of who you are quicker, so you know how to
go about fixing your team. And so even though on

(06:00):
the win loss column you got an L, it actually
is a lesson that you've learned and a lesson that
if used the right way, it can help you have
greater successes down the road.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, and the good news right now, with the twelve
team college football playoffs, one loss really means nothing. It's
just a learning process right now. You know, in the past,
you lose that first game, basically the season is just
about over. You know, you could lose three games right
now and still be in pretty good shape.

Speaker 5 (06:30):
We can continue the conversation, guy, conversation, did you did you.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
Did you hear what did you hear? What I said?

Speaker 7 (06:36):
No?

Speaker 4 (06:36):
No, did you hear what I said? Because about I'll
make a point about what No. So what I was
saying is like, sometimes you want to play a tough
team early because it reveals yourself and it allows you
to make the fixes that you need to be a
stronger team down the line. So for Clemson and Alabama
and some of these other teams that got knocked off,
this is actually the best thing that happened because the

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lessons happened quickly. It allows you to apply what you've
learned and allows you to build a better team, a
team that is going to be a much stronger team
down the stretch than what they would have been if
they didn't play these tough games early.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
All right, let's talk about Alabama because right now, if
I had a wish, I wish I was in Tuscaloosa
to see what's going on, because I don't think it's
going to be a healthy situation for that team with
a coaching staff right now. I didn't look at social media,
but I guarantee you it's not pleasant for Alabama right
now losing to Florida State. Florida State a two touchdown
underdog in that ballgame, they win thirty one seventeen.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
I was shocked.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
I don't know about you and the new quarterback obviously
for Florida State, Tommy Castellanos. He predicted that, you know,
he said, you're not Nick Saban anymore.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
That kid from Boston College.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
I didn't think it was a wise thing for him
to go on that route, but he backed his words up.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
That's what he did.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
He did back it up. And here's what I'll say.
There's a lot of truth in what he said. Now
the Alabama fans are beginning to come to the realization
that the program looks different without Nick Saban at the helm.
And I will say the cracks started showing last year.
One of the things that we know and one of
the things that we began to appreciate about Nick Saban

(08:12):
is not the greatness for the winning, but the consistency
that we saw from Alabama. They were the evil Empire.
They were the machine. There's a discipline and the detail
that you expected when you saw Alabama. Some of that
fell apart last year. You didn't see some of that.
It became more of a loosey goosey program. And every
coach has its own personality and the team ultimately reflects

(08:33):
the personality of the coach. But what I can tell
you is this team is not as dialed in and
button up as the previous versions under Nick Saban. We
can talk about the talent, and the talent should be
the same Alabama still Alabama from a talent perspective, but
the detail, the discipline, even the physicality looks a little
different under killing the board than it did under Nick Saban.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
It looks different because that losing. That's why it looks different. Look,
they're losing games last year.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
Yeah, they're losing because they're getting their tails kicked in
the trenches. It is rare that we've seen an Alabama
team over the last ten to fifteen years get dominated
in the trenches. Florida State bullied Alabama yesterday and that
is eye opening. And that's something that Crimson Tide Nation,
whatever they call themselves, that's what they're gonna have to

(09:22):
come to Grisby because they gotta fix that. If not,
it's gonna be a very long season for the Crimson Tide.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
I'll tell you what, though, I look at the stats
in this game right now. Florida State finished with two
hundred and thirty rushing yards averaging almost five yards to carry.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
That to me is just will.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
I mean, there's some talent, there's no doubt about that,
but that's mental toughness between the years. It's will wanting
to win, wanting to destroy your opponent, and you can't
coach that. It's gonna be in your heart. It's got
to be in your chest. Is that correct? Am I
right on that? You rush for two hundred and thirty
yards against Alabama on a team that won two freaking
games a year ago, that's amazing to me.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
Yeah, but it's not the same team that won two games. Like,
they're completely new. They've got new coordinators. Gus Malzon comes
over from UCF, Tony White comes over from Nebraska. So
offensively and defensively, they're drastically different. They hit the portal hard,
They flushed out all the people that they didn't deem
to be worthy of being seminoles, and they brought in
some guys that want to be a part of the process.

(10:19):
Mike Norville, I will give him a ton of credit
because the hardest thing to do is to go for
being an unbeaten team one year to to and ten
the next year to trying to build it back up,
because everyone that was praising you the previous year has
been tearing you down for the last year, and now
you have to really stand firm in what you believe in,
what are you convicted and in terms of the type

(10:40):
of players you have, the type of program you want
to run, and the offensive and defensive schemes you feel
are best for the people that you have. He stood
ten toes down and for them to get this win. Man,
it's not only a testament to the players, but man,
I got a ton of credit for him for being
able to write the ship when it appeared to be
heading in the wrong direction.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
About that Alabama had not lost a season opening game
since two thousand and one. When they lost to UCLA,
the score was twenty to seventeen. This is unbelievable. I mean,
they expect nothing short of a national championship in Alabama,
and why not. I mean, they've had it, they tasted it,
They've been to the mountain, and you know what, they
can't even find the freaking mountain.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Now. I mean, he's in trouble, Kaylen de bor is trouble.
I mean, you know.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
He's in trouble right now. You talk about a hot seats.
He better not even sit down. Don't, Kaylen, don't, don't
sit down. Your record is six and four against the
unranked teams at Alabama, Nick saban Went won twenty four
and four in those kind of games. It is unbelieving.
It's not president to have Alabama football like that. To me,

(11:45):
I'm not an Alabama fan. I don't care in either way,
but there are certain sacred things in the USFA in sports.
Yankees winning, okay, it used to be the Bosston Celtics
winning and basketball and Alabama football in college Alabama, you're
out of the mix right now as long as Kaylen
de Boor's over there. Should have stayed on the West coast.
Should have stayed there. Stupid move. It really was. You

(12:10):
don't want to follow a legend. You want to be
the guy that follows the guy who follows the legend.
That's what you want to do.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
I mean, in the perfect world, you're one hundred percent correct.
You don't necessarily want to follow a legend. But it
was a big job. It was a big paycheck. He
opted to take it. Now, I do believe there is
something to be said for what you talked about going
from being West Coast based and now working in the southeast.
It's a different it's a different environment, it's a different element.
But this would be a test for him, Kaylyn. The

(12:38):
boy has won everywhere that he has been. Now we
get a chance to see his greatness. Can't he stand
ten toes down on what he believes in? Can't he
find a way to connect with this team and these
players to have them believe in that, because remember, he
still has a handful of kids that were there under
Nick Saban and when you begin to lose, everybody begins

(12:59):
to question and what the head coach is doing. So
can he go in there and continue to sell the message,
the approach, and the program to those kids who may
have some non believers amongst him.

Speaker 6 (13:11):
That is the critical part of it.

Speaker 4 (13:12):
So I'm excited to see what he does, because yes,
situation critical in Alabama right now.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, and again I'll come back and say it's not
that critical unless they don't bounce back from this, because again,
one loss doesn't really mean that much any longer. With
the college football players being expanded, it doesn't mean that much.
It's bad, it's a bad mark against you, and obviously
Alabama means a lot but still in all life is
not over right now. In the past that may have been,

(13:39):
And even now we talk about the Ohio State Texas
game in Oiosate wins fourteen seven, and it was all defense.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
As far as the buckets is concerned, it's.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Not that big of a deal really, because now we'll
find out how good Texas really is because the next
three games get this San Jose State, U TEP and
Sam Houston. And I'm telling you right now, I wish
these media people will get off watch Manning's back.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
The hype was ridiculous. Now they want to bury the kid.
Let him live.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
I mean, come on, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no no. He was hailed as one of the best
that we've ever seen. He has already been anointed as
a number one overall pick. He was the odds on
favorite to win the Heisman Trophy. At no point can
we back off now after the machine has built him

(14:30):
up to be whoever he's supposed to be. The name
on his back is big. He is going to get
that treatment because everyone expected him to be Eli, Peyton
and Archie. So now he has to stand in it.
Because for two years we've heard about him being a
generational talent. That's all we've heard. Oh, arch many, arch many,

(14:53):
arch many, arch manny so now, And the great thing
about ball is ultimately you have to show and prove
that you are who they say you are. And when
he came in with ninety five passes and everyone built
him up, and then we finally saw the product. The
product doesn't look like what we were sold it was
going to look like. And so we're gonna see how

(15:14):
he responds to adversity, how he responds to criticism, and
the spot like being on him no different than some
of the other quarterbacks that have walked that walk the
last few years. So we can't just back off and say, hey,
spareport arch. No, No, he has to go out to
walk through he has to walk through the mud. We
got to see if he's as tough and resilient as

(15:36):
we need those quarterbacks to be that are eventually selected
number one.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Overall, he had thirty eight yards only in passing, had
an interception that was only through three quarters yesterday.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
And look, I will say this, You're right.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
I mean he was built up big time, and maybe
maybe he will come to play at that level.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
Maybe.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
And again those next three games he should fatten up
with some stats. If he doesn't, then the question is
going to be maybe, maybe we made a mistake when
I say we San Jose State, U TEP and Sam Houston.
Come on, really he needs to go crazy against those
three teams.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
See, but here here's the challenge. Does he really need
to go crazy or does the team need to play better?
Because him going crazy is a showcase for him? What
does Texas need to do to be better prepared to
play these heavyweights that they're going to eventually have to
play when they run through the gauntlet of the conference.

Speaker 6 (16:27):
So, yes, he has to play better.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
But Steve Sarkisian and those guys have to do the
delicate dance between making sure QB one looks good and
making the team look great. That always doesn't work in
concert like, so he has to make some difficult decisions
on a what's best for the team, not necessarily what's
best for arch right, And.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
If you look at the statue, is seventeen to thirty
pass for one hundred and sevent of you odds a
touchdown in an I int and really truly a lot
of pressure. There was a lot of pressure. I'm not
making an excuse, but certainly a lot of pressure. But
some of those passes that he threw overthrown passes passing
behind the receiver at times.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
So I get it.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
It's not the greatest place to make your debut in
college on the road one hundred thousand people in the
shoe at Ohio State. Not the greatest. But you know what,
it's a learning experience. Maybe he'll take that and he'll develop.
We'll see. I mean, the eyes are gonna be on
him right now. No one's gonna back off. You're right
about that. They're gonna keep on following the guy's name.
What kind of play is he?

Speaker 4 (17:29):
Yeah, I mean, like this, this is what we see.
This is the arc, right, this is the superhero arc
that we all find. First someone is held as a prodigy,
a generational talent. Then we build him up to be
that superhero. Then they fall and stumble, They eventually discover
a kryptonite, and then they have to find a way
to work through it. So we're gonna see if he

(17:51):
is what everyone has said that he will be. Is
he tough enough? Is he resilient in those things? Because
the talent is that he certainly is talented. And now
to be what he's been held to be. But do
you have the intangible qualities to maximize that talent, because
toughness succeeds talent when it comes down to it. We'll

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see if March Many has it.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
I gotta mention before we take a little bit of
a break. I got to mention my school from Brooklyn,
New York. They went down to Gainesville and they lost
to Florida last night, fifty five to nothing. Fifty five
to nothing. It was Long Island University of Brooklyn losing
to Florida, the Gators fifty five zip. All right, and
it happens. But you know what, it was a good payday.

(18:34):
They got a half a mill to play that game.
Maybe it's worth it. Maybe this athletic the right to
say it's worth it. Get a big fat pay check,
get humiliated. It's okay, But that check probably pays for
the entire athletic department.

Speaker 4 (18:46):
I mean yeah, I'm sure that was a donation to
the program. They were sacrificial lambs to go down there
and take it. In fact, I'm not gonna lie. When
I saw the thing and it was like Florida l A,
I was like, it can't be long Allen, Like, I
didn't even think Long Allen was a had a football team,

(19:07):
So like, hats off for the scheduler at Florida for
discovering that to make sure a DJ Lagway company get
off to a good start, because I certainly did not
know that that was on the marquee.

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All right, let's get into this. Let's get into this.
Bucky Brooks. I think that we're going in opposite directors.
If you're a Dallas Cowboys fan today, stand up and
thank Jerry Jones, the owner, right here right now, because

(21:43):
on Thursday, the Cowboys traded Michael Parsons to the Green
Bay Package at exchange for All Pro defensive tackle Kenny
Clark and two first round picks, and team owner Jerry
Jones and Parsons were very much involved in a brutal negotiation.
But I say this is a good move, and I
know that you're disagreeing with me.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
I just had that feeling. Am I right?

Speaker 4 (22:06):
I'm not saying this is to bad move because we
won't know for a while. I would say that two
things can be true at the same time. One, Michael
Parsons deserved the bread the money that he got at
forty seven million annually, that is an amazing contract for
an amazing player, All Pro player who is fifty two
and a half sacks through his first four seasons, So

(22:28):
he's worthy of being paid. That the Cowboys made a
decision that is based on financials, but also maybe based
on what they believe to be best for the team.
When it comes to chemistry and connectivity. One of the
things that none of us know is what was the
dynamic of Michael Parsons within the locker room and throughout

(22:50):
the building. Was he someone that was Was he a
guy that brought energy or was he a guy that
drained it? Was he an energy vampire? I don't know,
but it appeared to be something much deeper than this
just being a financial negotiation. This to me appeared to
be Jerry Jones drawing a line in the sand when

(23:10):
it came to the culture and the environment that he
wants to keep and that he's willing to pay for.
And he made a decision that the team is better
off without Michael Parsons, which is interesting. But what I
also know is I haven't heard a lot of noise
from that locker room saying that this was a bad
move or anything. So maybe they're all touring the company line.

(23:32):
But right now, there hasn't been the outrage that maybe
you would think if a productive and popular player was
dismissed in other places.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
Well, I'll say this. I say it's a good move.
I say it's a great freaking move.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
It really is.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Number One, Jerry Jones didn't crack over that agent. That's
number one. Number two, the Cowboys haven't done squat in
thirty years, not even Division finals. Okay, this is for
their future and not giving into a whiner and an egomaniac.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
And I've got news for you.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
There was some pub list reports saying that a lot
of the players on that Dallas Cowboys team his teammates
viewed him as an egotistical and self centered guy. All right,
but let's take a list of Jerry Jones, the main
man today, the guy instead of Stage who says they're
a better team now without Michael Parson.

Speaker 9 (24:16):
Go ahead, JJ, This gives us a better chance to
be a better team than we have been the last
few several years since Michael's been here. Not any negative
on michaeh. But we're trying to get better. We're trying
to stop the run and stay on the hunt.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
Yes, yes, it's true.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
And according to Albert Breer and Sports Illustrated, he said
that there were players right now in that locker room
saying that Michael Parsons was not very popular there, and
it's easy to throw dirt on a guy after he's gone.
I get that, all right, But why would they make
that up. If they felt good about the guy, they
would have said positive things. Well maybe if they didn't
like him really and truly, they could say nothing at all.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
They would have been button lipped. But they weren't.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
They came right out say, look, he was an egomaniac,
so maybe it's been not to have him in there. Again,
they didn't win with him, so what's the big loss.
I don't get it. They did not win. They haven't
won anything in thirty years.

Speaker 4 (25:12):
Well, okay, so let's let's let's pack that up, because
I don't like the way that you talk about Jerry
Jones and the agent. Like I think what Jerry Jones did,
and look, he went about the negotiation the way that
he wanted, but the way that he did was slimy
and sleazy. If someone is represented by an agent and
it's in the CBA, you deal with the agent, you

(25:33):
don't deal with the player. And what Jerry Jones did
is try to work in and run around David Mulgetta,
who is one of the best agents in the business
given the number of contracts to billionaire the billions of
dollars that he's negotiated in deals, and so that was
sleazy on Jerry Jones's part. Now you cannot like the
player and say that we want to move on, but

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like all of the shots that he took at the
agent unnecessary and ultimately time will tell if this was
a good move for the Cowboys. I just don't like
the way Jerry went about his business when it came
to trashing the agent as it relates to making a
hard decision financially for the team in terms of who
you want to pay and who you're not willing to pay.
It is very very clear that the Cowboys are about offense,

(26:17):
not defense. It is also clear, and this is me
saying this from reserve, the Cowboys aren't serious about winning
super Bowls. The Cowboys are serious about entertaining the Cowboys money.
When you look at how much money they spend, they're
the bottom of the league when it comes to outflow.
They are a business first, football team second, and that's
the way they approach it. So I hate it for

(26:38):
all the Cowboys fans who every year look through the
football life with blue colored lenses thinking that this is
a super Bowl year. It's not and it won't be
because they're not serious about being a championship team.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
You know, you mentioned the term super Bowl. It was
a super Bowl for Jerry Jones because to him, it
wasn't so much Michael Parshon's Parsons just the situation was
that he was involved in it. But it wasn't really
against Michael Parsons. Really it was the agent. Jerry Jones
did not want this agent to win for several reasons because,
as we mentioned once before, this is the same agent

(27:13):
that signed to Shawn Watson. And Deshaun Watson changed the
entire landscape of quarterback salaries, and he didn't want to
have that done on his watch. I really believe that.
Do you think that's true?

Speaker 1 (27:24):
I do?

Speaker 3 (27:25):
I do, Buck, I really do.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
It might be true for him, But you deal with
all the other agents, Drew Rosenhaus, you deal with Jimmy Sexton,
Todd Frantz, who is Dak Prescott's agents. Those guys drive
hard bargains. So that's some bs. If Jerry Jones elected
to pick out David Mulgeta because of oh, I don't
want to do this because of what he did with
the Deshaun Watson deal. The game and negotiation is who

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has the leveraged. The person who has the leveraged wills
the hammer, And in those situations with Deshaun Watson, he
could wield the hammer because at the time, teams that
were desperate for quarterbacks were willing to give up whatever
it took, and so he took advantage of that. Jerry
Jones has wielded the hammer in several instances when it
comes to doing deals with players or outside the league.

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When the league was Visa and he decided to be
American Express, when the league was rocking coke and he
went PEPSI. So I'm not hearing that he's a contrarian
when it comes to negotiation, like that's what he does.
But if he's picking out David Mullagetta to oh, I'm
send him a lesson versus everybody else the even deeper

(28:35):
issues at play, because that shouldn't be a part of
the deal.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
I will say this. You know, the team on the
field for the last thirty years stunk. But as far
as marketing and exposure and what he has done for
Dallas and the Dallas Cowboys in the National Football League,
as far as merchandising and selling the team and the
logo and whatever it may be, he's a one. He's
done wonders for the league as far as marketing is concerned.

(29:00):
As far as on the field product stinks, it really
does has done much for that team.

Speaker 4 (29:06):
I mean, like they are where they are, they haven't
done it. But his own ego. Because it's funny because
people are talking about the stuff with Micah and the ego,
and look, man, I've been around Micah enough that hey,
within all these stories, three things come out and there's
some truth that lies, right in between, right, So it's
what that is in terms of ego. But Jerry Jones's

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ego has also cost the Cowboys his own ego to
be respected as not only the businessman but the football
mind and all of that. But it's his team, and
so when you own the team, you can do whatever
it is that you want to with the team. We
will see if this makes the Cowboys better in the
short term and in the long term. The last deal

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that we saw that was like this was the Raiders
trading away Khalil Mack to the Bears and getting back
all these picks or whatever, and you know what, it
did nothing. And so the hardest thing to do in
this this league is to turn picks into players. Can
the Cowboys turn those picks that they get into blue
chip players? Because if they don't, it's a watch and

(30:09):
they lost out on an All Pro player that would
have helped them in the short term.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Okay, you mentioned the term ego, and I'll tell you what.
I never played the game. The next snap I take
in the National Football League will be my first. But
I got to tell you this much, I gotta believe
you have to have a bit of a chip on
your shoulder or an ego, oh, knowing that you're as
good or better than the guy next to you.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
To play in the.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
National Football League, I think everybody has a bit of
an ego. You have to You can't be a shy
guy doesn't talk. You have to be a leader. You
have to have somewhat of an ego. Am I correct.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
We all have egos if you play like that's part
of being a gladiator, and a gladiator sport right when
you stand into arena, you have to feel a certain
way about yourself to be able to take on all comers. However,
in a team sport, you have to check the ego
for the betterment of the team, and so you carry
the swag and those things, but you always put the

(31:01):
team ahead of your own individual self interest. And when
you talk about it in those confines, yeah, if teammates
feel like a player is doing his own thing, yeah
that's a problem. And in the piece that Albert Brier
kind of outlined things they not only talked about like
the selfishness, the ego, they talked about freelancing. It is

(31:25):
hard to play defense when eleven players are supposed to
be on the same page and you have responsibilities, and
we have gap assignments. If one person is doing his
own thing, he's running around blocks, he's shooting other gaps
in a desire for him to make a play. If

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he's doing that, he's compromising the integrity of the defense,
and he's saying to his teammates, my status sheet is
more important than us winning. And so if that is
a part of it, that is why he's not as
light in the life. So all those things they play,
but only the Cowboys really know what's going on when
it came to that situation.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
In micah Okay. And we have a touch about the Packers.
I mean, I think the Packers are somewhat winners in
this deal. Not only does a teammate a dynamic piss
rusher and this guy, well Michael Parsons talk about ego whatever,
he could take over ballgame, no doubt about that. But
they gave up two first round picks, they gave up
a defensive tackle. That's a pretty steep price. Do you
think there was a good move on the Packers part?

Speaker 4 (32:28):
Look, having played in that place up in green Bay,
everything in Green Bay is about being a title contender.

Speaker 6 (32:34):
That's why they call it title Town.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
Is a place that expects to be one of the
teams in the Final four every year, and Michael Parsons
coming over gives them a chance to be that team
that can be the last one standing.

Speaker 6 (32:50):
That said, there's also.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
This thing within the organization that when people come in,
they're very, very clear and direct about what they expect
from their players. Now, I am surprised for years that
Aaron Rodgers was kind of able to be Aaron Rodgers
and then the other fifty two. Michael Parsons will learn
really quickly in that environment. Hey man, it's about the team,
and if you have a tough time doing that, you're

(33:12):
gonna have a tough time here, not just from inside
the building, but the fans are gonna have a tough
time with it because everything there hearkens back to the
way that it was in the sixties when Vince Lombardy
was there.

Speaker 6 (33:24):
And they will tell you when you look up at.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
The Ring of Honor and all those Hall of Famers,
hey man, we were great before you and we'll be
great after you. So you need to check your ego
at the door and be a great teammate because we
celebrate those who win at a championship level. So Michael
Parsons has to understand that, and he also has to
be willing to take on the pressure because when they
paid him what they paid him, there's gonna be a

(33:48):
demand that he is going to be that guy every day.
He's gonna be a dominant, disruptive, destructive player each and
every time. And if he's not, they're going to let
him know very quickly that that's the it because that's
what they're paying him to do. He has to live
up to that.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Right and they're paying him four years, one hundred and
eight mel. That's forty seven million a year. And believe me,
if I'm Aiden Hutchinson of the Detroit Lions who's going
to be eligible for an extension, I'm licking my chops
right now, Aidan, are you're listening, because well, do Detroit
Lions come around and do that for Aiden Hutchinson? That's
the need?

Speaker 3 (34:21):
You know what? It's like a dumba.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
I mean in the NFL, one guy gets the money,
the next guy wants you to.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
Yeah, he wants it to. I don't know if we
can pay Eighten Hunchson that much. I'm just being honest.
I don't know like a Hudson coming off an injury.
A Hutcheon is a great story, and I love what
he's done for Detroit. I don't see Aiden Hutchinson in
that same stratosphere as Mike and some of those guys.
We'll see when he bounced back this year, maybe that
changes it. But yeah, all those guys are looking for
the big bread me too.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
So are you right? We all are there? We go.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Bucky Brooks, Andy Furman, Fox Football Sunday. I'm Fox, but
ready it's time for some answers.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
And he got him. He's got him right now. It's
Bucky is.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
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(35:21):
studios and a little bit of a sad note for
l d ld' is the very last time you're moving
on from us to get the big call up.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
You got the call up is that right, LD.

Speaker 5 (35:31):
That's right, that's right. I'm not I'm I'm just I'm out,
but I'm not forgotten. I'm just gonna be going. Uh,
I'll be going to another time slot for our.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Who's WINNINGNUE who says you're not forgotten, I'm really and truly.

Speaker 8 (35:43):
You forgot me already.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
Well you know, you never know.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Maybe Bucky didn't, but I mean whatever, But okay, little Jumper.

Speaker 8 (35:52):
The legend of Little Dumper.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Let's get started. Let's get started with asked Bucky go ahead?
Give him one?

Speaker 5 (35:57):
All right, all right, Bucky, I got one for you.
So obviously we're talking on the Michael Parsons thing, you know,
the trade big thing. We heard the Cowboys side of it.
Well I got a question for you for a Packer side.
Now I'm not a Packer fan, but I will speak
on behalf of Packers with Micah. Now, you know, there,
does this vault the Packers into winning the NFC North?

Speaker 4 (36:17):
Now beyond that, yeah, they gonna win to the NFC North,
they're the favors. But also it puts him in serious
title contention. They on paper, they look like they might
be the best team in the NFC. Besides the Philadelphia Eagles.
They should have expectations to be in the NFC Championship Game.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
All right, I got one good job, ld We'll see
you sometime down the road, all right, all right, Philadelphia Phillies.
Kyle Schwarber, he made history Thursday night against the Braves
when he tied a major league rerec with full home
runs in a single game. He became the twenty first
player in Major League Baseball history with a full home
of game. So, Bucky Brooks, what is more difficult a
full home run game or pitching a no no.

Speaker 6 (37:00):
Four home run game?

Speaker 4 (37:02):
Four home run game is yet to hit four dingers? Yeah,
that means you got to hit a sweet in the
sweet spot every time. Four dings is harder than a
no hit.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
But there's more pressure pitching the no hitter when you
got the sixth, seventh, eighth inning.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
The pressures. There's no pressures. Got a run game.

Speaker 4 (37:20):
You just got to get twenty seven outs. You don't
even have to strike everybody out. It would be the
equivalent of saying, hey, you need to strike out everybody.

Speaker 6 (37:29):
Oh doing a no hitter?

Speaker 4 (37:30):
Nah, I think the four dingas are harder.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Oh, I believe you, Okay, University of South Carolina women's
basketball coach Don Staley says she was contacted by the
New York Niggabocus for an interview for their then vacant
head coaching job. Would she have been a good fit
to coach in the NBA and the Knicks?

Speaker 3 (37:46):
What do you think?

Speaker 4 (37:47):
Yeah? I think she would have been. I think she's
a great leader. Ultimately, coaching is teaching and having a
program structure. She is shown that she can do that.
She did it at Temple, She's done it at South Carolina.
She absolutely can do it in the pros and players
will respect her, and so that's the main thing. NBA
players will respect her because she can teach them how
to play the game.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
Have you admit her? Dun Staley?

Speaker 4 (38:11):
So, we were actually in college to get she was
at Virginia when I was at North Carolina. I met
her briefly and stuff like that. And I've seen her play.
I watched her play up close and personal when I
was an undergrad. Great player, great player.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
I've seen her from a distance. I've seen her on TV.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
She'd be one of those people that if I was
at a news conference, I'd be afraid to kind of
push her a little bit, because I think she could
open up a mouth big time.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
I mean she could.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
She'll get you. She could eat you up and speak
you out right. She's that kind of person.

Speaker 6 (38:40):
I mean, that's okay.

Speaker 4 (38:40):
Though like that, it's okay.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
I mean she's the same leader as a Bob Knight.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
Really get me scared of it?

Speaker 2 (38:49):
Well, she would scare me, she would. All right, I
got to admit the quarterback. Forget about the quarterback right now,
Bucket Brooks, Well, what is the most difficult position to
play in football?

Speaker 4 (39:01):
If it's not quarterback, I would say something that requires
a lot of thinking and processing. So I would say,
Mike linebacker will require a lot. If it's not that,
I would say playing left tackle, because as an offensive tackle,
you're dealing with the superheroes on the other side, challenging
more challenge than any other position.

Speaker 6 (39:21):
I would say, all.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
Right, I got you. Let's talk about your good friend
Deon Sanders. They lost.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Colorado lost to Georgia Tech on Friday night, twenty seven
to twenty, but Dion on Colorado decided not to use
their remaining two timeouts in the final minute of that ballgame.
Why did he not use those two timeouts.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
You know, situation in circumstance, you know, sometimes it gets
away from you. He certainly had him and they could
have used and played the game out better. I bet
when he looks at the tape, he probably would have said, man,
I could have played it out better.

Speaker 6 (39:54):
From a management standpoint.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
You know, there are some teams I think that should
not be insert and classifications. I mean, Rutgers to me
is not a big time team.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
It really is.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
They're in a big time conference to Big Ten. They
shouldn't be there. They did it for the money. They
beat the Ohio University of Athens, Ohio luckily thirty four
to thirty one.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
I just don't believe that schools like Rutgers should be
in the Big Ten. Do you agree?

Speaker 4 (40:19):
I do not agree. I do not agree. I'm okay
at Rutgers being in the Big Ten. We talk about
that blueprint de map. They wanted to get some of
that New York as part of the Big Ten. And
Greg Channel is a good coach, that's a good program.
I'm okay with it.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
All right, there we go, all right, I think that'll
do it for me. And we want to say good
by to ld in this situation, and I think that's
going to do it for this segment right now because
college football, College football right now is underway. Let's turn
up their heat that and so much more where Fox
Football Sunday right here next on Fox. All right, you

(40:54):
don't know them yet, but you're will in just about
a minute. Come morning, everybody. This is Fox Football Sunday
on Fox. Boy, He's Bucky Brooks, mister football. I'm Andy Furman.
I'm just hanging on here and with bro keasting live
from the Fox Puts Radio Studios, and the way we
go football is here. Your eyes got to be hurting
because you're watching TV day and night right now. But
we talked about a couple of things that a couple

(41:15):
of winners yesterday. Firstly, Brian Kelly, Thank goodness, he finally
wins an opener. Okay, so that's great. They win yesterday
seventeen ten. We talked about that earlier.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
Today.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
They win in Death Valley. How tough is it to
win in Death Valley?

Speaker 6 (41:29):
Very tough.

Speaker 4 (41:30):
It's very tough because I mean, they're righting, they're right
on top of you. It's a rockets environment. They have
a ton of confidence because it's so hard to get
out of there with a dub, and so the fans
feel like they have an impact, so they're really really
involved in the game. So you got to be locked in,
gonna have composure and poison. That's what LSU had.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
What is the deal running down that ramp or that
mountain on the side. You could break a leg going
down there. I don't think that's such a smart move.
Maybe I'm crazy for Clemson right now running down there
that side thing.

Speaker 4 (42:01):
Then one is running down the hill. Two you have
to touch the rock, Howard's Rock before you do it.
I will tell you that North Carolina they were in
our conference. Clemson was in our conference, and that is
a big deal for Clemson people.

Speaker 6 (42:17):
They would tell you like, when you see.

Speaker 4 (42:19):
Them come running down the hill, it is something magical
and electric about it.

Speaker 6 (42:23):
And the rock is a touch symbol.

Speaker 4 (42:27):
So you got to be committed to playing hard and
doing all the stuff when you touch the rocks and
then they come running down the hill and Death Valley
to come get you. Well. Opponents like myself and others.
Sometimes you meet the tigers down the hill and you
wave them or you beckon them on to come down
the hill, which you don't really want to do that
because that incites the ire of the team. But a

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younger Bucky Brooks has participating in that and it didn't
It didn't go over well, it doesn't go overwell. Yeah,
but that's the tradition and it's always been the tradition.
And you're right, it does look a little scary when
you see them do it. But man, I can only
imagine if you're part of that team, the electricity and
the energy that you feel when you're participating in that
part of the process.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
Well, LSU kind of suck some of that energy out
of them. At Lace yesterday seventeen ten, they win. LSU
wins there in Death Valley now now Ohio State over Texas,
and the story there was fourteen seven. But everybody's to
be talking arch Many today. He probably didn't sleep well
last night. The quarterback of Texas only had thirty eight
yards passing on an interception.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
I mean, very heralded. Did you even mention he's.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
Picked as maybe the first quarterback picked in the draft
this year. Maybe it wasn't fair, Maybe it will be fair,
Maybe he'll develop, Maybe it's a learning process. We'll see,
but all eyes will be on him in the next
several games right now, which are not big time ball games.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
They're really not. As we mentioned early on.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
They're playing schools like UTEP and sam Houston State and
San Jose State, so we'll see what he does against
that competition.

Speaker 4 (43:57):
Yeah, I mean that competition is a step down from
Ohio State, so you have a chance to build your
confidence up. The main thing with Texas and everybody most
of the time, the biggest improvement you make as a
team is from week one to week two.

Speaker 6 (44:11):
You begin to see.

Speaker 4 (44:11):
Who you are, examine your wards, begin to try and
rectify some of the problems that show up in their
first game. This is a great opportunity for Texas over
the next three games to get much much better, so
when they do face another stiff test, they're ready for it.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
And if arch Many didn't sleep well last night, Kailin
de Boord, the coach of Alabama, probably didn't sleep at all.
I mean, they lost Alabama LI thirty one seventeen to
the Florida State Seminoles, who are too touchdown underdogs in
that ball game. It didn't bode well for Alabama for
their fans. I'm going to check out after the show
today I'm going to go on social media. I'm sure

(44:47):
Kailin de Board is getting killed right now. I wouldn't
be surprised if they threw exsit his house last night.
I'm not saying it's a good thing to do, but
I think that's what some people do.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
Right.

Speaker 4 (44:56):
It sounds like you're urging demand.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
I've never done it, I promise, even on Halloween. I've
never done.

Speaker 4 (45:01):
That that you're surprising supplying cartons of eggs for those
guys to do it. No, it's not great. Look, it's
not great for them to lose, and then it's definitely
not great for them to lose in the manner in
which they lost. Like it's just a disappointing performance. You
would like to think that a team like Alabama, who

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is hailed as a perena contender, would have more juice,
but they looked they didn't. And so now we begin
to look at Kevin the boor and what is going
on with them?

Speaker 6 (45:34):
Why aren't they playing at high level?

Speaker 4 (45:37):
Well?

Speaker 2 (45:37):
And then you know, I looked at a school like
Boise State, okay, and if they said life is going
to be pretty tough without Ashton genty, and obviously it
was because they lost. They lost the other day to
South Florida. I looked at the stats in that game.
It was a thirty four to seven game. They lost
that South Florida. They were winning seven nothing. Okay, the
Broncos of Boise State eighty six plays. They ran out

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Florida only around fifty three plays. That's unbelievable. And they
dominated a time of possession by almost thirteen fourteen minutes.
But they still lost a football game. They couldn't finish drives.
That was the key right there. Big loss. I mean
that may be one of the worst. I mean, Alabama
was a big loss, but Boise State was preseason of
a twenty.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
Five to lose at South Florida. Not a good look.
Not a real good look.

Speaker 4 (46:24):
No, definitely not a good look. Not a great look
at all. It's one of the things that that's what
makes college football so fun is that you don't know
what's going to happen. And what we saw, South Florida
put their hands on them. They bullied and knocked Boise
State around, and Boise State didn't have an answer. And
without Ashton Genty, who could erase a lot of the

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problems with his unique talents as a look, a game
changing workhorse running back. When you don't have that luxury
and you haven't had that star emerge, it can be tough.
It can make for a long night. And we saw
them have a very very long against South Florida.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Okay, we've got to do a little congratulations o via
former Heisman Trophy winner Eddie George. Eddie George started his
coaching career at Bowling Green yesterday and they won. They
beat Lafayette twenty six to seven. The Falcons win. Eddie
George just great. I mean I never thought Eddie George
would be coaching college football, really, I mean did you?

Speaker 4 (47:24):
No? I didn't, But look, I give him a lot
of credit for growing in the role. And Eddie George,
like we've seen recently a handful of NFL former NFL players,
made his way through the hbcuth circuit. He was at
Tennessee State for I want to say maybe four years,

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built that program back, led them to an o'hally Valley championship.
And then he takes over Bowling Green and he was
recommended by Urban Meyer for that job, and it appears
to be a really good fit. He is a leadership guy.

Speaker 6 (47:57):
He's a guy who has many talents.

Speaker 4 (47:58):
He's done a bunch of different things in his post
playing career that allows him to connect with people differently.
And even though he may not appear to be an
X and O's guy, I will say, and having a
recent conversation with him, he's kind of old school and
he believes in old school values and old school things
to get the team ready to play, and it certainly

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appears to be working as Bowling Green gets off to
a great start Week one.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
Okay, can I do a little quiz with you? Can I?

Speaker 1 (48:27):
Can?

Speaker 3 (48:27):
I put you on the hot seat a little bit mad? None,
I'm not in real hot the little one. May I
do that with you?

Speaker 4 (48:34):
Yeah? Okay?

Speaker 2 (48:35):
We talked about college foot we talk about coaches. I'm
gonna throw the coach's name out and the school and
you tell me if you think that coach is on
the hot seat, is in trouble?

Speaker 3 (48:43):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (48:43):
Okay? Will that be okay with you? Okay, I'm gonna start.
I'm gonna start with Auburn. You freeze, Okay, I'll give
you a little background. Last year they were five and seven,
and he could be the first coach in Auburn history
to go three losing seasons.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
In a row.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
All right, No, I actually I think Earl Brown, they said,
looked it up. Earl Brown from nineteen forty eight to
nineteen fifty he lost free in a row.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
So you freeze. Is he on the hot seat at Auburn?

Speaker 4 (49:09):
I mean you said it, he's gonna three loose the
season in a row one percent if he does that.

Speaker 6 (49:15):
Yeah, he's on the I seat for sure.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Okay, arkansol one yesterday. But I still think Sam Pitt
is in trouble.

Speaker 4 (49:23):
Yeah, he's in trouble. Yeah, Sam Pitton's in trouble like
they they like. Yeah, they have high expectations and they
got a lot of money.

Speaker 6 (49:30):
The Waltons a lot of money.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
All right.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
I knew Brent Venables was in trouble at Oklahoma when
he took a million dollar pay cut. I'd love to
get a million dollar pay cut on my check. Yeah,
a million dollar pay cut. Now, First of all, I
ask you this, how do they do that? If in fact,
you have a contract. So what do they do? They
just take a contract? Grip Up said, look, if you
want to stay here, you're gonna have to work for
this amount a million less?

Speaker 4 (49:52):
Is that what?

Speaker 3 (49:52):
They do.

Speaker 4 (49:54):
Yeah, I mean yeah, it'd be no different than like
if someone came to you at your real job and say, hey,
here's here's where we're at. We need you to take
a pay reduction. If you don't take a reduction, you're
probably subject determination. So choose, I mean so yeah, Yeah,
it's in trouble. When they start reducing your pay instead

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of increasing your pay, it's not a good thing. All right.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
Let's move over to Oklahoma State Mike Gundy. I mean,
this guy, he's in trouble. It seems like almost every year.
I mean, I don't get it. I mean, I think
this could be the year that he did take a
pay cut too. I think this could be the year
of Mike Gundy his last.

Speaker 4 (50:31):
I mean, look, man, he's been there. I want to say,
I want twenty years. I mean, it's a long run
at his alma mater. And I will say for the Cowboys, yeah,
the folks have have high as they expected to play well.
They didn't play well last year, so they won't bounce
it back. I wouldn't say it's hot. I would say
it's warm, though, it's like a seat that someone else

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has been sitting in, So it's a little warm.

Speaker 6 (50:55):
It's not burning, but it's elevated temperature.

Speaker 4 (50:58):
All right.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
What about Sky side of Field University of Cincinnati Last
year they started five and two, then they lost five straight.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
They lost to Nebraska Thursday night.

Speaker 4 (51:08):
M it's tenuous. I think he's just got an extension
not too long ago. But yeah, it's tight. Because Satifield
went to Cincinnati. Cincinnati was on I mean they were
coming off as string of successes. You know Luke Fickle
who never should have left that job to go to Wisconsin.
He should have stayed in Cincinnati. Cincinnati had been rolling.
I mean he had him in the playoffs. They played

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Georgia in a in a bowl game with serious implications. Yes,
Saturnfield is hot because the Cincinnati people have seen the
program reach higher heights than they've reached under him.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
Yeah, I thought one of Louisville's happy that he's gone.
What do you think this, Satifield?

Speaker 4 (51:47):
I guess so.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
No, it was not Alabama birminghare. Trent Dilfer, the former nfler,
Trent Dilfer.

Speaker 4 (51:57):
My guy, my guy is struggling.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
He's seven and seventeen in two years.

Speaker 4 (52:02):
Yeah, my guy, they struggle. They beat the Alabama State
last night. But man, he's gonna have to turn it on.
They're still struggling, trying to find their way, and he
replace a legendary coach in Bill Clark. I love TV,
but yeah, man, it's warm.

Speaker 6 (52:17):
It's hot right now. The block is hot.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
Yeah, I bet it's hot.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
Okay, you're pretty hot too, because you told me last
week instead of going to NFL dot com all the time,
let me go to Fox. So I went to Foxsports
dot Com and you're right for them.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
And this is a pretty good piece.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
The rookies set to continue NFL's running back renaissance. Okay, again,
you do so much homework. I love you's you write
a book, Bucky Brooks, you'll write a book. Really, the
running back renaissance in the NFL last year dominated the headlines.
You wrote that twenty twenty four. Saquon Barkley, Derek Henry,
Josh Jacobs, all these guys, and now you've got guys
that are rookies that may come back and dominate the

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run game as well.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
How did you do this?

Speaker 2 (52:56):
And you know, obviously one Ashton genty maybe you know
he's the guy that had some and it's so much
success in college, so you as soon that'll take that
success to the pros. But how do you put something
like this together? This is a pretty hard thing to
put together.

Speaker 4 (53:07):
I think, Well, you're trying to project which guys are
gonna have enough opportunities to really make an impact, Like
are they a position to be RB one or RB two?
Is this going to be a back by commedy situation
or does the team believe in a lead back, a
workhorse back. So you start connecting the dots and looking
at some of these guys and you're like, Okay, I

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can see how this can emerge where it could be
a really really good thing.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
Well, you know, you're talking about us Don Genty, And
the point is that sometimes you have to have a
match that's almost made in heaven because he's got Pete
Carroll is his coach. And you put this really bluntly,
tremendously because Pete Carroll has had a lot of success
with these guys, Reggie Bush, Marshawn Lynch, all these guys
that are great running backs that are under his tutelage.
I guess, so maybe Astro and Genty could really develop

(53:54):
and become a pretty good pro with Pete Carroll as
his coach.

Speaker 4 (53:59):
Yeah. The reason why he'd be good pro because Pete
Carroll is a throwback. He believes in the running game.
He believes in handing the ball off repeatedly because it
wears down the defense and it creates big play opportunities
in the passing game.

Speaker 6 (54:12):
Aston Genty is a workhorse runner.

Speaker 4 (54:14):
You go and look at his ledger back at Boise State.
I mean he had a ton of games where he
had twenty or more carries. I want to say eighteen
games like that. Nine games where he had thirty or
more carries that final season.

Speaker 6 (54:27):
So he's used to a heavy workload.

Speaker 4 (54:29):
And when I think about the success that Pete Carroll
has had when he's rebuilt programs, is leaning into the
running game like he did in Seattle when they acquired
Marshawn Lynch and they really rode Marshawn Lynch to success.
It was marsha on the defense and then Russell Wilson
make an occasional plays.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
Yeah, and it's funny you mentioned Pete Carroll. Very similar.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
You got Jim Harbaugh now coaching the Chargers in LA.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
He loves that.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
He's kind of a throwback guy himself, with the run game,
and you got amuriy and Hampton there as a guy
that could really go go nuts in the NFL. And look,
he's going to get that opportunity now because Najee Harris
had that eye injury. So now the door is open
enough for Hampton to do something with Jim Harbaugh at
the Charges.

Speaker 6 (55:12):
Absolutely it's right there for him.

Speaker 4 (55:14):
And so the thing about Najie Harris's injury, it gave
them a chance to look at the offense with a
Marion Hampton. It gave him an opportunity to experiment and
do some things with him as the number one. And
then what happens if you keep seeing the guys you're
number one, he eventually becomes the number one. So Hampton
would have plenty of opportunities to do it. And I
think about Jim Harbaugh and what he did for Frank Gore,

(55:35):
a lot of similarities between the two. I could see
Mario Hampton having a lot of success early as the
Charges lead back.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
You know, you're told about running backs, and obviously Esterton
gently was big in college Heisman all that stuff and
what he did with Boise State. But the one running
back that I'm hearing more and more about in the
preseason is Trevion Henderson with the New England Patriots.

Speaker 3 (55:54):
I don't know why I am, but look, you.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Even wrote the fact that he had that one hundred
yard kick return touchdown on his first NFL touch, which
is really big. But now all of a sudden, Drake
May is going to compliment the past game with a
good running back. A running back guy. Think this guy
could really do wonder. I think the Patriots they could
be a playoff.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
Team this year. I really believe the New England Pagris
could be a playoff team this year.

Speaker 4 (56:18):
I'm with you in that assessment. When it comes to
the Patriots, Mike Gravel was a great coach and what
they're trying to do is they're trying to clear their
decks to make sure Drake May has what he needs
to be successful. Traveon Henderson is an explosive back. He's
a back who can get it done in a few
different ways, not only running it but catching them passes
out of the backfield. We saw the explosiveness the first

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time that he touched, he had one hundred yard kickoff
return for a tub. Then he scored again in the
second preseason game and even though those things don't directly
carry over, you can already see what he could be
as a pro. Let's see man, let's see him line
of love to see what the Patriots do with him.

Speaker 3 (56:54):
You know, it's funny.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
I'm kind of following a common thread in all your
running back The common thread is the coach that they
have right now is a throwback coach that is a
hard nosed kind of guy that loves the running game.
And this guy RJ. Harvey is one of those guys.
Because again, Sean Payton's one of those throwback guys when Denver,

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he's that guy. But this guy RJ. Harvey, I look
at him, well, he's five a two oh five. He
looks like a shot put with legs. That's what this
guy is, right. But he's got speed five a two five,
a low center of gravity that's pretty good.

Speaker 6 (57:31):
Yeah, he's a good player.

Speaker 4 (57:32):
And they have JK. Dobbins also in the building, and
they eventually will split the worklow. But their ability to
take some of the pressure off for bow next is
going to be huge and critical for this team. And
as I think about RJ. Harvey being able to do
maybe some of the Alvin Kamar maybe some of the
mark Ingram type stuff like kind of putting him in

(57:53):
a role where he can have a lot of success
depending on his style.

Speaker 6 (57:57):
But he is going to be a major factor in
this offense.

Speaker 4 (57:59):
And I just know when Sean Payton is on his
game is because he's able to control with the game
with a running game.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
Yeah again, Denver playoffs. Yes, I put a check next
to that.

Speaker 4 (58:12):
Oh yeah, the Denver Broncos are real because their defense
is also likes out with fans jokes.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
Yeah, and let me stop for a second before I
move on to the next running back. The fact that
Dereck Henry Sekwon Barkley had so much success, so much
focus was on those guys last year, and they did
so well and their teams did well.

Speaker 3 (58:32):
You know, you've always said it's sort of like a
copycat league of coaches. Right now, going back to the
run game, have we seen the resurgence of the running game?
Is that what we're gonna see this year in the NFL?

Speaker 4 (58:43):
Oh? Yes, yeah, you don't see that. Continue to be
a big part of it, the running game because the
way teams are playing. More teams are doing what I
say on defense, like too high coverage and so too
high coverage. You got the safeties well off the line
of scrimmage. They're taking away deep ball where there's some
seams up underneath where you want to run it, and
you have to run it effectively. The force teams out

(59:06):
of that that picket fence look. And that's why you're
gonna see the running game. Also the change in personnel.
When the defenses decided to become lighter and faster, they
made them more vulnerable to being able to deal with
power football. Well as it's gone that way now more
teams are saying, hey, let's go back to running the football.
We can knock off some of these little dudes that

(59:27):
are on the field. And that's exactly what we're seeing.

Speaker 3 (59:30):
Okay, there's a couple of more runbacks. I'm going to
hold them up. We'll hold them. We continue with those,
but right now, and let you know that football is back.
Everybody knows that football is back. And for the best.

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let's get going. I want to finish off those running
backs if I can. That you wrote about on foxsports

(01:01:07):
dot com, Buck and Caleb Johnson.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
I had no idea.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
This guy ran over two thousand, seven hundred yards while
he played at Iowa. He's gonna do a pretty good
job for the Steelers, I would think right now. And
they need a running game. That's what they've always done.
Defensive run, that's what the Steelers do. Now they got
Aaron Rodgers, I think they could be formidable.

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
And I think people were, you know, looking at them
and pointing fingers.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
I say the Steelers are going to be a playoff team,
and people are downing Aaron Rodgers. He had a pretty
good year last year. He really did not an Aaron
Rodgers year, but statistically it wasn't that bad. It wasn't
what he's normally done, but he had a pretty good
year with about thirty some ore touchdowns and ten twelve interceptions.
That's not a bad year for quarterbacks for Aaron Rodgers.

(01:01:48):
Not an Aaron Rodgers type year, But I think that
he'll come around, and I think the Steelers will do well.

Speaker 4 (01:01:56):
The Steelers have a chance to be a surprise team,
and one of the reasons they can surprise is because
the team has an edge to it due to the
people that Mike Tomlin has brought on with the winning pedigree.
Aaron Rodgers is a big part of that, but Caleb
Johnson gives them the running game that they need to
sustain it because as wonderful or as spectacular as Aaron
Rodgers can be at this stage of his career, he

(01:02:17):
needs to support of others to be able to do it.
You want him to make a handful of throws to
kind of make the difference in the game as opposed
to having to make all of the throws, meaning that
you're throwing at thirty five or forty times. If they
can get the running game up and going, and if
Johnson tracks like I think he's going to track, this
team would be more balanced and Aaron Rodgers will be
more effective because we'll put our pridy on his efficiency

(01:02:41):
more so than a number of attempts and the other
things that go along with playing quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
All Right, let's look. Let me up football Giants. You
got the kid from Arizona State. Camp'skatabu who was injured
really in the preseason. I think that hamstring you said.
But you say he's a throwback.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
What does that mean he's a throwback guy?

Speaker 4 (01:02:59):
Well, I mean he's a throwback like he's old school
in terms of like the way that they they'll use
him like. He loves it rough and rugged. He's physical. Uh,
he finishes with violence. He can catch the ball out
the backfield. H New York Jazz fans will lovell be
like a modern day Larry Zonka in terms of like
a guy who's a true full back. But they got

(01:03:19):
him playing tailback and you'll see some of that rugged physicality.

Speaker 6 (01:03:23):
Come out of his game.

Speaker 4 (01:03:23):
This is man.

Speaker 6 (01:03:24):
He's a great running back.

Speaker 4 (01:03:25):
He was terrific at Arizona State, and I think he'd
be a great player with the Giants.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
All right, last, but not least on your list about
running backs to keep your eye on this year. This
guy was a seventh round pick. Washington commander is Jacorey
Krossky Merritt And maybe, as you say, that's the reason,
that's the reason why they traded Brian Robinson.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
You like him.

Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
There's a lot of excitement. There's a lot of excitement
about him. The people in the building call him Bill,
like Little Bill, the little character uh from kids' stories
and books and TVs. But this dude is terrific guy.
The chance to watching them close and personal. At the
East West Shrine game, he was the MVP. He look
he has balanced, he has body control, he can run

(01:04:08):
through contact. He is what they've been looking for. He
is kind of a do it all playmaker out of
the backfield, keeping eye on him. You may not hear
his name early about about the middle of the season.

Speaker 6 (01:04:19):
He could be a major factor in their offense.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
So we could see a lot of run offenses this
year in the National Football They a lot more than
in the past. I mean, the passing game is still
going to be there, but maybe maybe take a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
Of a back seat to the run game. Because of
what happened last year with those big time.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
Runners, including what Sekwon Barkley and Derek Henry, it'll be
a little different.

Speaker 4 (01:04:40):
I think people will try and lean into the running
game a little more than they had in the past,
partially because what it does. It just balances out everything
for the quarterback. You may also see more under center
play because when you get up under the center to play,
action is more effective. And everyone is looking for that answer,
looking for a way to be able to get it done.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Okay, now we're going to talk about the quarterback. Everybody
loves the quarterback. That's basically what it's all about. The
quarterback most important position on the field, maybe the most
important position, maybe the most valuable position in all the sports,
really in any sport. Okay, and people invest heavily in that.
We talked about the Dallas Cowboys. They have the highest
paid player in the National Football League, that's in their quarterback,
Dak Prescott. But Dallas has had a losing season twice

(01:05:23):
in the last five years. And why they were both
years in which Prescott missed at least half of the
season due to injuries. So what are you gonna do?
They rate the quarterback. We have a list of the
ten worst quarterback situations in the National Football League. Let's
hope your team is not on our list. Okay, I'm
going to start with number ten. All right, Number ten,

(01:05:45):
right now is going to be and look, it's going
to be the combination it's not just going to be
the starter, It's be a combination between the backups and
the starters. And I say the tenth one and this
is a list that I took. I think was in
the NFL season preview in the New York Times the
other day. I think it was the backup situation for
the Giants may be one of the stronger ones in
the league, but still in all with the combination of

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Russell Wilson, Jackson Dart, and Jameis Winston, the Giants are
the tenth worst starting quite about situations in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
Do you agree?

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
Because Russell Wilson at thirty six old but not ancient,
they say, but possibility he could be in the twilight
of his career.

Speaker 4 (01:06:25):
Oh, He's definitely in the twilight of his career. Like,
there's no disputing that. But I don't know if it's
necessarily the worst. I think a lot of it depends
on what your feelings are regarding Jackson Dart. If you're
positive on Jackson Dart, then you feel better about this
team and you feel better about what they're doing. Based
on how they looked in the preseason, Jackson Dart looked

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terrific and what they would like Jackson Dart. What they
would like him to look like is Josh Allen Jr.
Meaning he's a scaled down version of what Josh Allen
was in Buffalo under Brian dave Ball. Because if day
Ball gets that kind of player, he's proven that he
knows how to make the athletic quarterback work. It's just
a matter of making sure that Dart is ready for

(01:07:08):
all the things to come along with being the starting quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
Okay, we'll move it to the ninth team, the ninth worst.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
Okay, going down the list, New England Patriots, Drake May,
Joshua Dobbs, Tommy d Tommy DeVito. So I think that
the question walk is still out there at the some
extent with Drake May, and I think it could be
the guy. I think could be the guy. They'll be
in good shape. But if he's not, they're going to
be in trouble. Going to Joshua Dobbs and Tommy DeVito.
So that's why they ranked the New England Patriots as
far as the worst quarterback situation number nine.

Speaker 4 (01:07:37):
Yeah, I mean I understand the uncertainty about Drake May.
I mean he was young guys only in the second year.
It depends on how you believe Josh McDaniels will job
with the young quarterback. Can he make the game easy
for him. We've seen Josh Daniels do great things when
it comes to Tom Brady and maybe Jimmy Garoppolo, But

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can you just say anything with a much younger player.
The jury's out, But the dude is talented. Obviously he's
a tar heel. So i'mone lean in his favor. But
I we'll see number nine. I see. I mean somebody
has to be in the bottom third, so I guess
that's what they have.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
My guy here, and sometimes it's good to be there.
You know, you people don't talk about you that much.

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
Actually well, I mean that's.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
The cam Warden and no one wants the first pick
in the draft. No one's talking about the Tennessee Titans
and cam Ward, right. I mean, he's going on in
the background. I think that's great. There's no pressure. Look
compare him to compare him to Arch Manning. Everybody expected
him as a world beater. Looking happened yesterday a bit
of a flop. I mean, now all of a sudden

(01:08:42):
he's getting some heat. Cam Ward I mean Honestly, I
think it's great. I'd love to be in the background.
Don't talk about me. I'll prove it on the field, good,
better and different. But I don't want a preseason hype
going into a game.

Speaker 4 (01:08:55):
Yeah. Well, here's the thing about no matter what we
say about like there's no press, there's always pressure. That
pressure is internal and external.

Speaker 6 (01:09:03):
The internal pressure.

Speaker 4 (01:09:04):
Comes from when I'm a number one overall pick, I
expect to have to show to everybody why I was
a number one overall pick, and to the outside world
when you're drafted. There with with draft status comes to expectations.
So even though we're not talking about them, because the
bigger celebrity would be Shudra Sanders of the draft number

(01:09:26):
one overall, there's expectations that come along with being the
first pick in the draft.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
No, I'm sure there is all right going down the list,
Number eight, Tua, the Miami Dolphins, Zach Wilson, and Quinn Ewers.
Of course, the possibility of Tua going through a full season,
that's the problem right there, because if he miss his time,
Wilson Owers, I mean, they're not much of a safety
that they say as far as that's concerned. So If

(01:09:50):
Tua is healthy, they'll be in good shape. And obviously
the track record shows that tough for him to go
through a full season.

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
That's the problem.

Speaker 6 (01:09:58):
Yeah, I mean it can be tough.

Speaker 4 (01:10:02):
It can be tough for him just because the protection,
the concussion issues and those things. But there's no doubt
he is distrawtusts to drink in Miami. They need him,
Mike McDaniels needs him because we talk about a hot
seat the college coaches Miami. Daia's on the hot seat.
They have to win some games. They've underachieved. They're a
little soft, some would say, so, Yeah, the pressure is

(01:10:23):
on him.

Speaker 6 (01:10:24):
He has to make it happen, and so we'll see
what it looks like.

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
I'm going down to number seven right now.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
And before I tell you the team, it's you know
you're in trouble when you have to trade for your
backup less than two weeks before the start of the season.
I'll talk about the Las Vegas Raiders because aid no
Connell got hurt. He's gone, Okay, Gino Smith and Kenny Pickett,
So right now I think the Las Vegas Raiders could
be questionable. Gino has had a couple of good years. Okay,

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but that's with his former coach. Now we'll see what
happened again in a new situation in Las Vegas. I
guess it done.

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:11:02):
Well. One of the things that we talked about in
this segment we talked about asking genty right, we talked
about the running game and the importance of it was
because the alleviate pressure on Gino. Pete Carroll is Gino's
biggest supporter. Pete Carroll is the one that really helped
him become a two time pro bowler again after many
had written him off.

Speaker 6 (01:11:20):
And so Pete Carroll loves.

Speaker 4 (01:11:22):
Him and believes in him, so he's gonna set him
up success. I think that room is a little better
than people have given it credit for.

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
All Right, the big question now number six the Seattle Seahawks.
The question is can Sam Donald be successful without Kevin
O'Connell and Justin Jefferson.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
That's the question right.

Speaker 4 (01:11:41):
Now, you know the question, And the question extends to
which Sam Donald is the real Sam Donald? Because the
one that showed up the last game of the regular
season and in the playoffs is not good enough to
win consistently in the league. Can he shake and rewrite
that narrative that's hanging around him that he can't get
this thing done, that you know, he's having a tough

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time being able to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
All right now.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
It's a situation there, very similar really with number five
Pittsburgh Aaron Rodgers. Was that disappointing twenty four season of
being because he was in a Jets uniform? Or is
that he's just deteriorating. So we'll see what happens. So
we got them as five Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 4 (01:12:23):
Yeah, I mean there are a lot of questions about
Pittsburgh Steelers Aaron Rodgers. He's older, he's older, and it's
been three years since we seen him play really really well.
Even though last year wasn't horrible, the team was bad.
Pittsburgh has to set him up for success running the football,
Arthur Smith meeting him halfway, a little mix of what
Arthur likes to do and what Aaron Rodgers has done

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traditionally in his career, and then the weapons DK metcalf
on the outside. Can DK Metcalfe really be a number
one receiver and thrive and flourish in that role? A
lot of questions, there's some TBD that comes.

Speaker 6 (01:12:57):
Along with it.

Speaker 4 (01:12:57):
But yeah, I mean that's probably a right spot for Pittbell.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Okay, number four, basically it's a complete circus. It's the
Cleveland Browns and they got Joe Flacco. Dylan Gabriel should
do a Sanders. De Shan watching. They got everybody out there,
got Joe Flacco's the guy because he had the experience,
but he's got the age.

Speaker 3 (01:13:13):
Factor as well. So then number four, we'll see what
happens over there, and I'm hoping before the end of
the season should do a Sanders as a starting quarterback.

Speaker 4 (01:13:21):
I really do. I mean, he's gonna have to earn
it because he's down on the depth chart, and so
first by to the apple goes to Dylan Gabriel. If
Joe Flacco is hurt or is ineffective, then when Dylan Gabriel,
you have an undersized quarterback who you're hoping his experience
sixty plus games in college at leads to success when
he gets his chance. And then in Sanders, the season

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finale just left people with a bad taste in the
mouth regarding his future. So he's going to have to
rewrite some of the narrative around his game and practice
with limited opportunities. We'll see.

Speaker 6 (01:13:53):
It is intriguing, but it's not great.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
Okay, I'm gonna go down the list rather quickly right now.
Number three of the New York Jets are justin Fields
and Tara.

Speaker 4 (01:14:00):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:14:01):
Two and one I know that you know who they are, Indianapolis.

Speaker 4 (01:14:06):
In New Orleans Saints in Minneapolis.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
Yeah, Daniel Jones, Anthony Richardson, Riley Leonards with Indianapolis and
obviously New Orleans Saints. And maybe they'll surprise I doubt it,
but with Spencer Rattler on the center, I don't know.
I mean, Derek Carr really left them high and dry
when he did retire in the offseason. He could have
done it maybe before the draft or whatever, but he
really left him high and dry. But he was hurt,

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so that's what he did. So New Orleans Saints are
in trouble, no doubt about that. Was without a quarterback.
As you know better than anybody, he ain't gonna win.

Speaker 3 (01:14:38):
It's just the way it is.

Speaker 4 (01:14:40):
It is it is, Yeah, I mean it's hard to win.
Quarterback driven league is hard to win without a QB.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
Can you think of a team that did not have
a quarterback or a decent quarterback that won.

Speaker 3 (01:14:50):
I'm trying to.

Speaker 4 (01:14:51):
Think Baltimore Baltimore Ravens two thousand and one. Great defense,
it's the only one. Yeah, that's the only one. Then say,
without a court though, you're doing what I can think of.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
Yeah, exactly right. Yeah, tremendous defense. Marvin Lewis's defense, that's
what it was, and that's.

Speaker 4 (01:15:08):
What it was. And the Ten Bay Buccaneers when they
wanted with on Brad Johnson and that defense against Rich Cannon.
That'll do it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:15):
You're right, all right, we move on Bucky Brooks, Andy Fourman,
Fox Football Sunday on Fox Sports. Ready, there's a fork
in the road and it's called yay or nay. And
you know what it's next, Al yay nay right around
the ben. It's about eleven minutes now before the top
of the hour. This is Fox Football Sunday on Fox
Sports Radio. He's Bucky Brooks and Andy Furman who went

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live on the Fox Bets Radio studios and the Swan
song for Little Dumper ld Swan song for you.

Speaker 3 (01:15:43):
Let's do a little bit of yay nay.

Speaker 6 (01:15:44):
Let's go okay.

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
Let those brains, gentlemen. These stories need an ass.

Speaker 8 (01:15:50):
I think we need a ruling on this yay or nay?

Speaker 3 (01:15:55):
Are you ready?

Speaker 4 (01:15:56):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (01:15:56):
I am ready.

Speaker 3 (01:15:57):
It's time last time my life.

Speaker 5 (01:16:00):
Yeah, your name at least for for for right now
at least. But hey, this is not a farewell. It's
I'll see you. I'll see you down the windy path somewhere,
I'm sure. But anyways, let's not get into the into
the sad here.

Speaker 8 (01:16:13):
Let's have fun.

Speaker 5 (01:16:13):
It's yeah, your day time, So I got I got
one for you guys, A yeah, your nay of my own. So,
ESPN has blocked Jason Kelcey. We all know Jason Kelcey,
New Heights podcast, Eagles legend and also brother of Travis
Kelsey as well. So the ESPN has blocked Jason Kelcey
from working Chiefs Chargers YouTube broadcast. Apparently, it's like some

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contractual thing that they're like, Nope, we're not you are
not gonna be there, you can't.

Speaker 8 (01:16:41):
We will not let you host. Yeah, your nay on
this Andy nay is.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
The stupidest thing I ever heard of. It really is,
why because it's brought the place for the Chiefs. It's
it's ridiculous. Come on, really, let it go. Let it
go grow up, grow up.

Speaker 4 (01:16:57):
No, Andy, I can understand why they understand the popularity
with everything, and so if you allow the kelces to
start doing other platforms, that's your guy. You discovered them,
so you feel like you have a little ownership when
it comes to it. I understand why they're doing it.
So yeah, I can't say I can't say that I'm
mad at them about it.

Speaker 5 (01:17:16):
Oh all right, well we're gonna go to college well
a little bit of college football on NFL for this,
So college football will soon be more popular than the NFL.
And several years why each game means much more and
less paywall games. Yeah your nay on this, Bucky Brooks.

Speaker 4 (01:17:34):
I don't like the thought of paywall games. I was
still likely to be over the top for free, so
I think the people deserve to have most of it
for free. I don't want everything to be a paywall,
so it shouldn't be like UFC or any of those
things where.

Speaker 6 (01:17:48):
You got to pay for every big game. So now
I'm not fan.

Speaker 3 (01:17:51):
I'm with you there. I'll tell you what.

Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
I'm a nay on this one because I think the
NFL will always be more popular. It should be because
the players are more familiar to the people, and it's
all about way and people want to wager. They want
away drunk people that they know. Boom, that's it.

Speaker 8 (01:18:04):
Boom.

Speaker 5 (01:18:05):
Well, continue on the NFL train, guys, and Villa is
moving into Friday nights for various games. That night has
always kind of been reserved for, you know, Friday night lights,
high school football, and other of the sort. Yay or
nay on this, Andy, Yes, it should be high school football.

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
Stop it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
You know, you're like a big bully NFL. I understand,
I get it. You're taking over a Christmas with the NBA.
It's all about money. I understand that. But there's gotta
be a point. Tommy, just back off just a little bit.
Friday night high school kids. Let him play that game.
They set their stage on Friday.

Speaker 4 (01:18:39):
Yeah, nah, I mean it's an over night. It's an overnight.
What if we don't like high school ball? What if
we like college ball? So it's wide open. I think
those those previous handshake agreements are out the window.

Speaker 6 (01:18:53):
Yeah, we can play on Fridays.

Speaker 5 (01:18:56):
Well, speaking of out the window on this one, guys,
So WNBA is now prepping for the playoffs. Does anyone
care about them? Now going into football season. Yeah, nay,
Bucky Brooks.

Speaker 4 (01:19:09):
Yeah, we still care. The hardcourt fans still care. I care,
And that's all that matters is I'm still a fan.
I'm still a believer. So I still think some of
those fans still care about what's going on.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
You heard it, he said, I care. That's all that counts.
That's the NFL ego coming out in him. That's it
right there. You got caught Bunky Brooks. That's it here
you go, wnba. No one cares about that. No, I
do a little bit. You know, I still watch one eye.
But still in all the majority of people, they don't
give a rat. They don't. Football's here, that's what it's
all about. But we caught you, Bucky Brooks. That's the

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NFL ego in you.

Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
It's okay. I still love you, but that's it. You
show your stripes.

Speaker 5 (01:19:48):
I will stand on business and say I care that
Bucky Brooks cares.

Speaker 8 (01:19:53):
I care, Bucky, I care for you. Man, we don't care.

Speaker 3 (01:19:56):
Do you care? How's that win the gate fair?

Speaker 4 (01:20:00):
Yeah? All right?

Speaker 5 (01:20:01):
Final one, guys, Will the Travis Kelsey Taylor's swift wedding
be bigger than the Super Bowl?

Speaker 8 (01:20:06):
If it's televised, yeay or nay?

Speaker 4 (01:20:08):
Andy?

Speaker 3 (01:20:09):
Hell?

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
Yes, you know what, They're real stupid if they don't
go close circa TV paywooll on that people pay to
watch that wedding.

Speaker 3 (01:20:16):
Believe me, that'll be big.

Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
It'll be bigger, more viewership than the Super Bowl, I promise.

Speaker 4 (01:20:23):
I mean it's a big deal. It's like a royal wedding.
So I'm back here, uh I here a lot a
lot of a lot of people in the state. We've
invested two plus years in this, so we got to
see it to the completion.

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
Bucky, will you get an invitation to that wedding? Will
you be invited?

Speaker 6 (01:20:38):
I should be. I should be invited.

Speaker 4 (01:20:39):
I've been the biggest Swiftie and Kelsey fans, so I
should be invited. There we go.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
Hey, they weren't first, but they canna make an impact
this NFL season.

Speaker 4 (01:20:47):
That and more.

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
Where Fox Football Sunday coming up next right here, watch
these rookies.

Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
That's coming right up. Good morning, everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:20:59):
This is Fox Football Sunday of Fox Sports Radio. He's
Bucket Brooks and May Firman and were broadcasting live from
the Fox Sports Radio studios. In a way, be going,
Buck how has it been going thus far for you?
Have you been a little tied because of all of
these games you watched yesterday?

Speaker 4 (01:21:16):
It's been good, man, It's it's been great. Just trying
to recover from watching. I mean, I can't remember, just
a little football is bouncing around in my head at
all times. The thing about it was seeing Ohio State
Texas early finishing with Utah and UCLA.

Speaker 6 (01:21:32):
It was a full college football weekend, right.

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
And before we do some final thoughts on that football weekend,
right now, we're gonna do the tie. IRAQ play it
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Speaker 3 (01:21:53):
Such a fun start.

Speaker 4 (01:21:54):
A feat but you the buck over.

Speaker 2 (01:22:12):
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NFL dot com. Let's do some final thoughts on college
football Saturday. It's really the college football weekend because Notre
Dame's got Miami today and you're in North Carolina Tar
Heels and Bill Belichick make their debut with TCU tomorrow night.
But let's look at someone is Tennessee the transfer from
app State Joey Agilar sensational through FO two hundred and

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forty seven, three touchdowns Tennessee over Syracuse forty five, twenty six.
Surprising that Tennessee came back with the transfer from app
State Joey Aglar.

Speaker 4 (01:23:16):
No, not at all, like you know Joey Agila, who
he bounced around. It's funny because he basically swapped with Nico.
He goes there and that offense at Josh Hypel runs
is one that can make stars out of quarterbacks. It
is maybe basically an extension of the old Art Browse
system that puts a lot of pressure on you, vertically
wide splits and a down here running game. He showed up,

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showed out. That's a really good star for Tennessee.

Speaker 2 (01:23:40):
Okay, not a good start for Alabama. And there coach
Kailndboor as we saw we mentioned over here in the
play of the game, Gavin sawchuk fourteen yard touchdown run
Alabama low thirty one to seventeen against those Seminoles. Seminoles
were coming over a two and ten season and the
Seminoles basically were a two touchdown underdog. Surprised, I mean,
what does that mean now for Alabama?

Speaker 4 (01:24:02):
I gotta go back to the drawing board. We get
a chance to see look the resilience of the team early,
we get to see the resilience of the coach Early.
He's always had success throughout his time in the college
football landscape, and this is the first time that he's
having to deal with those expectations and having to bounce back.
If they are able to get back on track, commit

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to a level of fundamentals and just being a sound
team that can do it. But I'm gonna tell you
this is not Nick Sabans Alabama, and they have to
find their own identity under a new coach while still
meeting those lofty standards that are down there in Tuscaloosa.

Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
All Right, LSU seventeen to ten over Clemson in Death Valley.
Finally Brian Kelly, coach of LSU, gets.

Speaker 3 (01:24:46):
An opening day win.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
And I'll tell you right now, if this defense that
they played last night against Clemson continues, you could say
that LSU could be a contended for the national title.

Speaker 4 (01:25:00):
Yeah. I mean, they look pretty good. I'm not gonna
lie there.

Speaker 5 (01:25:02):
They did.

Speaker 4 (01:25:03):
Look they looked really good. They looked really good out
the gate. There's some things that they're able to do
to put pressure on you in in a very very
very different way. I like where they're going. I like
how they're they're trending. Now it's about nus Meyer and
that offense continue to get better him continued to be
the gun slinger that he is while making great decisions

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not turning it over.

Speaker 6 (01:25:25):
They do that. Man, they have a chance.

Speaker 4 (01:25:26):
They have a chance to be one of those teams
that we talked about being there in the end.

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
Okay, Ohio State in the shoe yesterday while they beat Texas.
Texas was ranked I guess number one. Why, I don't know,
and Ohio State was ranked number three, defending champions.

Speaker 3 (01:25:40):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:25:40):
That's a story for another day. They have preseason rankings,
which is crazy to me. But the story wasn't so
much Ohio State winning. The story was arch Manning didn't
do well. They kind of fizzed out a little bit,
only thirty eight yards passing and he had an I
in through three quarters in that ball game yesterday, fourteen
to seven was the final. The good news at least
for arch Many he could regroup, give a little confidence

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back because the next three games are against San.

Speaker 3 (01:26:04):
Jose A State.

Speaker 2 (01:26:06):
He was used in Baptist and UTEPS, so I think
he'll do fairly well against those schools. But then again
he'll be criticized saying he only did it against subpart competition.
He better come around when the when the SEC pulls
up the full swing.

Speaker 4 (01:26:21):
I mean yeah, I mean there's a lot of there's
a lot of pressure on him. He has to show up.
And this wasn't good, especially coming off of the way
that they looked last year where they couldn't fully get
it together.

Speaker 6 (01:26:34):
They were inconsistent.

Speaker 4 (01:26:36):
You're thinking of a full off season that now you
have more buy in and better it just didn't just
didn't look great.

Speaker 6 (01:26:42):
So now that you've had.

Speaker 4 (01:26:44):
A situation, you got to figure out how can we
get better from it? What can we do uh to
put ourselves in a better situation.

Speaker 2 (01:26:50):
Okay, now it's time for me to praise the work
of one Bucket Brooks okay on NFL dot com. And
I've said this at nauseum so many times because it's
true the work that you do NFL dot com and
now Fox Sports dot Com as well, But NFL dot
com you did a piece this week that it had
It was like a term paper, it really was. I mean,

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and I know what kind of work sweat, blood and
tears you put into this. Rookies that have been selected
outside of the first round that could possibly make an impact.
I want to know, how do you even compile something
like this? You didn't see much of them on the field.
How much work went into this? Because we're gonna delve
into it in about a minute, but still, in all,
how long.

Speaker 3 (01:27:32):
Did it take you to do this? And we did
get the flip process to even want to do something
like this.

Speaker 4 (01:27:38):
Look, it is one of the things when we think about,
like the rookies in the draft, like how can we
tie all the things that we thought was gonna happen
before the draft to what has actually happened under the
draftsman completed and we're playing games, and we wanted to
take the first rounders out of the mix because first
rounders are supposed to have an impact. So which players

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appear to be positioned to be on a spot where
they can make an impact immediately?

Speaker 6 (01:28:04):
And so you look through preseason.

Speaker 4 (01:28:06):
Games, you call some contacts and ask how people have
been performing throughout training camp and those things, and then
you guess a little bit in terms of how the
dominoes may fall.

Speaker 6 (01:28:14):
That's how you come up with a list like that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
All right, you kind of got a little bit of
a bonus here on the first one because it was
rather easy. You know, you got a guy was drafted
a round five, right, Yeah, yeah, it was easy. I
mean that's what everybody's talking about, that he shouldn't have
been a fifth round the right. I mean, you are thought, probably, well,
what do you think that he would be? Where do
you think he'd go.

Speaker 6 (01:28:36):
In the draft?

Speaker 4 (01:28:37):
I thought he'd be a first round pick. Now I
did too, We'll see if I'm right a wrong. I
thought he'd be a first round pick. I love the
way that he played and performed, and like people will say,
some of that is jaded by the celebrity stuff. Some
of that's jaded by the diannaffect, and maybe so maybe
there's some inherent biases that go with that. But what
I would say is when he throws it on time

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uh and plays within the boundaries of the offense, he's
a really really good quarterback. When he tries to get
outside of himself and get outside of the structure of
the offense and freestyle and run around or whatever, it
doesn't look great. The first week that he played against
the Carolina.

Speaker 6 (01:29:13):
Panthers terrific a's across the board.

Speaker 4 (01:29:15):
The second time that we saw him play against the
Rams not great because he was trying to make the
plays and he avoided that the first time, didn't the
second time. And so you come away feeling is he,
how can I say this, mature enough, and I mean
from a competitive standpoint, competitively mature enough to handle playing

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within the confines of the offense and resist the urge
to try and do things on his own. That is
the challenge. And when you're a fifth round pick, it
is imperative on you to do it, just like they
drawed up on the black board, trying not to freestyle.
You can't freestyle until you earn their right through your
play and performance.

Speaker 2 (01:29:54):
Well, he was sat five times in that game against
the Rams, and I think the commentators basically said that
the problem in that game wasn't so much to the
offensive line, which didn't help him at all, but the
fact that he held on the ball too long. And
that's something he did a little bit of colorado as well.
How do you break that habit holding onto the ball.
Sometimes it's better just to eat it or throw it

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out of bounds, right.

Speaker 4 (01:30:16):
Yeah, you got to know when to play is over
and you got to know how to live to play
another down. The other thing that he has to appreciate is, man,
one of the worst things that can happen is a
negative play, and a negative play consists of turnover, a sack,
a tackle for loss, anything that sets you back behind
the chains. Even if you take the check down or

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hand the ball off and you get zero to one yard,
that's more, that's positive. That's not as detrimental to being
second and fifteen, third and fifteen, where you know you
don't really want to have to play to your strengths.
To thought.

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
Okay, I got a big time question for you now,
because you work in the National Football League, so you
know the inner working.

Speaker 3 (01:30:56):
He's just pulled the curtain back a little bit for me.
You could don't mention your names, but I want to
know this. You got guys.

Speaker 2 (01:31:02):
You're talking about guys who maybe were not first rounders,
and you're making a list over here that these guys
could really make a name for themselves playing in the
National Football League though.

Speaker 3 (01:31:13):
They weren't drafted number one in the first round.

Speaker 5 (01:31:16):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:31:16):
Well, the person who makes that selection, the scout who
really pushed in the war room and say we need
to draft this guy.

Speaker 3 (01:31:23):
I'm telling you, I'm putting my name on the line
draft this kid.

Speaker 2 (01:31:28):
With these guys, do they can like special bonuses for
guys or scouts that hand pick these guys and say
draft him, he's going to make it big. Is there
a special bonus for a guy like that?

Speaker 4 (01:31:39):
No, you get out of boy, good job, But that's
your job. Your job is to go find players. So no,
there's no special recognition. What you do, you may curry
a little more favor in the building in terms of
your opinion being respected because you nailed it. But in
terms of a bonus, nah, No, we're not giving our
bonuses for that kind of stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:32:00):
Trying to get the money away.

Speaker 3 (01:32:01):
Wow, a lot of people give money away that Jerry does.
Does some people do all?

Speaker 1 (01:32:07):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:32:07):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:32:07):
The second one you have round two drafted in round
two thirty eight overall, I didn't think this was much
of a surprise. I thought he was a heck of
a player. Ohio State, they went there, and his name
is Trevon Henderson. We talked about him earlier today. New
England Patriots. This guy and as you mentioned, one hundred
yard kickoff return in the first preseason game that he
played in, he's gonna make noise. He'll make a lot

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of noise for that team. And he's gonna really got
to help out your guy from North Carolina on.

Speaker 3 (01:32:33):
The center, Drake May. And again we both agreed.

Speaker 2 (01:32:36):
I think New England's going to be a playoff team,
and he's gonna be a big reason why.

Speaker 4 (01:32:41):
I mean, look, I think the Patriots are a playoff team,
and they are a playoff team not only because of
the reasons that you outlined in the player, but look, man,
Mike Vabel just has a knackt man, and you've seen it.
These guys have an edge to him. He's an experienced coach.
He knows the x's and o's and all those things
that you want. But more importantly, man, there's a grizzled
toughness that he has that his team's embrace and they take.

(01:33:04):
I just know that the Patriot's gonna get back to
being the Patriots. So we'll see how it was.

Speaker 2 (01:33:11):
All right, it's gonna be what right behind the Stevenson
the running back. Stevenson will beat a number one back,
and I guess he'll beat the number two back. But
he'll get some playing times and no doubt about that.
And he got some speed too to give it. Four
four forty all right now, Round two forty seventh pickover
roll from the Arizona Cardinals. Tell me about Will Johnson.

(01:33:33):
The only thing I know about him. He played cornerback
of Michigan. But didn't they say his size was a
fact a little too small.

Speaker 4 (01:33:41):
It wasn't that it was an injury history standpoint, like
there was an injury situation where uh he knees or whatever.
So he never worked out, never ran that was the
main issue. But in terms of the player, the players
outstanding great instincts of wearing his footwork. Firstatile toolbox, can press,

(01:34:01):
can play off, can do a bunch of different things
that you want to see. And then a defense that
really wants to put a premium on seeing the ball,
play what we call vision and break vision on the quarterback,
break on the ball quickly.

Speaker 6 (01:34:14):
He's a great fitna.

Speaker 4 (01:34:15):
He's gonna be outstanding player and people are gonna wonder
how did he become a second round pick.

Speaker 3 (01:34:21):
I'll tell you what.

Speaker 2 (01:34:22):
This kid right now that you mentioned is drafted in
round six, number one, eighty six Baltimore Ravens, and I
gotta believe this pressure on this guy, his name is
Tyler Luby's a kicker. Because all of a sudden, now
Justin where's Justin Tucker? I mean, I know he's suspended,
released for violating the NFL's personal contact policy. You don't
hear squat, you don't hear anything on this. Is he

(01:34:44):
gonna come back? Will he had got another chance? Or
is he finished? What's the story with him? His Hall
of Fame career is probably down the toilet now too, Right,
what happened to Justin Tucker.

Speaker 4 (01:34:54):
Yeah, I don't know. I mean, he's kind of fallen
off to earth. I think Athy handles his legal situation.
There be some noise and some conversation about him. We've
seen how the national football legue operates. I expect him
to maybe have another opportunity to play if he wants
to play. When it comes to his Hall of Fame legacy.

Speaker 6 (01:35:11):
Is dented.

Speaker 4 (01:35:12):
There's a dean in it. But I don't think it's
an issue where if he won't get in, he'll get in.
You know, he'll be recognized for his efforts on the
field as they all are. It's just he has to go.

Speaker 6 (01:35:23):
Through the wind the storm.

Speaker 4 (01:35:25):
Right now, he's in the midst of the storm. Interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:35:28):
So this kid, Tyler low is going to be the
guy that's going to kind of come in there and replace.
So you said he kicked a sixty one yarder against
the Commanders in preseason.

Speaker 3 (01:35:38):
What's the dial way.

Speaker 2 (01:35:40):
I'm watching football games now, and I mean they had
a guy last night and one of the college games
kicked the fifty sixty order and didn't that one one
kid kicked the seventy otter for your team.

Speaker 3 (01:35:51):
Jacksonville, Right, was that seventy? Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:35:55):
No, I'm like a conspiracy theorist, I really am. Are
they doing something to the football. Are they putting helium
in the ball to make them kick further? I think, look, look,
look what the National Football League did. They eventually moved
the extra point back from like, well, the seven yards
it was, and now it's thirty three yards. They're gonna
eventually do this. They're gonna put that helium in the football.

(01:36:18):
So you could kick a seventy yard really kick a
seventy yard field goal. But they'll put the field They'll
put the goalposts further back and put them closer together
to make it tougher. I mean, all of a sudden,
now seventy yard is a commonplace sixty one yards. I mean,
come on, it used to be a forty five fifty
yard field goal. You go, wow, Now it's nothing. In

(01:36:38):
the college game, they're kicking fifty three to fifty six yards.
What's don't tell me the better kickers? Come on, what
are they eating spinach?

Speaker 9 (01:36:45):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:36:46):
Tell what what's the difference?

Speaker 4 (01:36:48):
I mean, maybe they're eating spinach. Maybe that's the secret sauce.
Maybe that's what we've been missing the entire time. Like
I would say, training has changed, like the numbers kicking,
special weight training has always been a big part of
their success. You know, Look, it's funny. I just think

(01:37:10):
it's the evolution of the position. Like more guys are
being trained, more guys that are lifting waists, and so
they got more boom in the leg, more pop.

Speaker 3 (01:37:17):
Well, back in the day, I remember when I was
a kid, they used to get only soccer players. Remember
you've probably read about I don't know if you were
old enough to see Pete gogolact and Charlie gogelact. The
soccer players.

Speaker 2 (01:37:27):
They were the first soccer star kickers, like in the
National Football League, and everybody was a soccer.

Speaker 3 (01:37:31):
Player, played football and kicked.

Speaker 2 (01:37:32):
Now there's hardly any soccer players that are really kicking
for the National Football League, right.

Speaker 3 (01:37:39):
I think these kids are playing in college, right, that's
the way it is.

Speaker 4 (01:37:42):
Yeah, I mean they're playing, they're coming up, like they
eventually make the transition from being collegiate kickers, I mean
from being soccer players to kickers to four time kickers
when they get to the pro, to the college game
and then full time in the pros. It's just an evolution.
I mean just seeing more people tap in. Uh, they
want to play. It's awaiting them to play. And for

(01:38:04):
some of the kickers, they know they can play without
getting contacted. I guess.

Speaker 3 (01:38:10):
Now, then, let me go back to this kid that
the Ravens drafted on the sixth round loop. Uh was
he drafted? I forget now?

Speaker 2 (01:38:19):
Was he drafted before Tucker was thrown out of the league,
was released or after?

Speaker 3 (01:38:24):
I don't remember, not because he was drafted on the
sixth round.

Speaker 4 (01:38:29):
No, No, he was drafted. He was a part of
He was part of the process. Like, they got him,
they wanted him, They got him to replace him, and
so surely after they got him, they moved on.

Speaker 2 (01:38:39):
So part of the plan, he was drafted, and then
all of a sudden they released Tucker after he was drafted.

Speaker 6 (01:38:46):
Okay, yeah, it was a part of the plan.

Speaker 2 (01:38:49):
Okay, Detroit Lions, they drafted this wide receiver. Who is
this kid from Arkansas? I can't even pronounce his name,
Isaac Isaac to slay.

Speaker 4 (01:38:58):
Oh. Tesla. Yeah, a Tesla he was doing. He was
a big he was a he was a big deal
coming out. And the reason Tesla was a big deal
is because coming from Marcus All six forty took him
in the third round. There were a lot of people
that were outraged.

Speaker 6 (01:39:14):
Did he went so high?

Speaker 4 (01:39:15):
But he's six y four, Uh, tune in and fifteen
or so pounds ran fast at the combine. So he's
a big body and he was a star of preseason.
He put it down for the Detroit Lions in Presetington
play and as a big body receiver, he's gonna have
a chance not to correct the lineup as a as
a as a three. But maybe the fourth guy played
some special teams, do some other stuff. It's uh, it's

(01:39:37):
gonna be it's gonna be fun to watch.

Speaker 2 (01:39:39):
I got one more before we continue, because this this
guy really impressed me. He went to tu Lane which
is in brilliant big time football draft of Cleveland Brown
undrafted undrafted by the Cleveland Browns, Aiden Huntington defensive tackle.
Tell me about this guy because I'm rooting for this kid.
Really undrafted guy. You want to see him make it.

Speaker 4 (01:39:59):
Yeah, this dude was good, man. This dude played really,
really hard. He played really well. He did some really
good things. Energizer Bunny at the point of attack. Just
a really good player. Coming out of Tulane, he was
a bit of a tweiner. He found his role, found
his niche Yes, it is good when you see these
stories kind of play out. And he is a guy

(01:40:21):
that can be a handful as a situational pass rusher
on what they call sub downs, second third down passing team.
He's to have the opportunity to get on the field
to make them happen.

Speaker 3 (01:40:31):
All right, we got a couple of more.

Speaker 2 (01:40:33):
Wile continue with that, but right now, and let everybody
know they could get a hold of Bucket Brooks at
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(01:40:55):
little Dumpel would love to hear from you. But we
got the blame game in this hour. But this really
isn't a good message.

Speaker 3 (01:41:01):
It really isn't.

Speaker 2 (01:41:02):
We're gonna tell you all about it next. A direct
from Houston, Texas Archie Bell and the Drulls.

Speaker 3 (01:41:08):
How do you like that? Mark Ramsey? Hell you like that?

Speaker 2 (01:41:11):
Asking you all receive, then tighten up that. That's what
Colin Coward said, tighten up with Aaron Rodgers helmet.

Speaker 3 (01:41:18):
Tighten up.

Speaker 2 (01:41:19):
There we go, all right, Fox Football Sunday on Fox
Sports readio's Bucky Brooks and Andy Furman and away we go.
Because if you connect the dots, it doesn't really look good.
We'll get to that in just about a minute. Bucky,
you like Archie Bell in the Drells. Why do I
know this stuff? It's crazy?

Speaker 6 (01:41:33):
I know, geez, I don't know why you notice?

Speaker 4 (01:41:36):
Do you notice stuff?

Speaker 6 (01:41:37):
Why do you know this stuff?

Speaker 4 (01:41:38):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:41:40):
My head's too big. I got too much garbage in there,
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Speaker 3 (01:42:07):
Now, you didn't answer my question, was I wanted.

Speaker 2 (01:42:10):
To know how you figured out this this uh, this
piece on Foxsports dot com. I mean it's real, it
was this NFL dot com. I'm sorry, NFL dot com.
The rookies that are selected outside of the first round
in the NFL that will make an impact this year.
I'm keeping this on my little folder because when it
comes Christmas time, I'm gonna say, Wow, you picked this guy.

Speaker 3 (01:42:29):
You were right, this kicker on Baltimore, you picked him.

Speaker 4 (01:42:32):
So how do you do that?

Speaker 3 (01:42:34):
How do you know?

Speaker 2 (01:42:34):
You didn't see much of them? Really you really didn't,
and you had to scan like every roster in the
National Football League.

Speaker 3 (01:42:40):
That's tough. Took a long time, I'm sure.

Speaker 4 (01:42:44):
I mean it's it took a little while. I mean
it was a little little task. But what you do
is same thing. You try to look for situations where
guys are set up to have immediate success. What does
the depth chart look like in front of them, What
is the scheme? How does their tools make the scheme?
Are they going to get enough opportunities to be key contributors.

(01:43:04):
And then it's the buzz what have they done throughout
the preseason? What have people talked about them doing in
training camp. So you take all of that kind of
switch it around and you spit it out, and that's
your lists.

Speaker 3 (01:43:13):
You know, you're saying that they're gonna make an impact.

Speaker 2 (01:43:16):
Obviously, the people that drafted them obviously feel they're going
to make an impact as well, even though they were
drafted like in rounds five to six, or that kid
obviously in Cleveland wasn't even drafted at all, an undrafted kid.
But this guy drafted on the fifth round with the
Miami Dolphins, Jordan Phillips, defensive tackle. Tell me about him
because you said he was a standout in the East
West Shrine Bowl game.

Speaker 4 (01:43:35):
Yeah, he's a standout, man. He is a look a
little muscled up, saw it off inside player man, great explosion,
has great first step quickness, gets after it and he's
shown that in Miami. Very disruptive at the point of attack.
Just has a nice feel for what he's man asked
to do. And when you have these players that on
the inside, maybe they don't necessarily put up these numbers.

(01:43:58):
But he did have some sacked numbers tech production in
the preseason. But what they do is they free up
others to get after it. And you need a handful
of these guys on your team to be able to
set up your stars for opportunities and success.

Speaker 2 (01:44:12):
Now, I'm gonna ask you one of the stupidest questions
I've ever asked you. Okay, but if you want to laugh,
you can. That's all I want to know.

Speaker 3 (01:44:18):
This kid is six three three oh five. Is there
an advantage to be that heavy when.

Speaker 2 (01:44:24):
You're a defensive tackle or it's just that's his body
size or he beefed up to that.

Speaker 3 (01:44:29):
I mean, can you be successful? It's six two forty
it's a defensive tackle. I want to know.

Speaker 4 (01:44:34):
No, not at two forty. No, No, you're too small
too lighting opinions you get knocked around. Three hundred pounds
is like the right thing. And in fact, when you
see defensive tackles that are two eighty or whatever, that
can be like they need to have exceptional quickness to
move around. It is just a big boys game, and
if you don't have enough size on the inside, they're

(01:44:55):
gonna knock you around and have their way with you.

Speaker 3 (01:44:57):
I can't believe that.

Speaker 2 (01:44:58):
I mean, really, I don't even know if it's that
healthy to be that heavy, is it. I mean six
to three could carry on that frame three or five.

Speaker 3 (01:45:07):
I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:45:08):
You know, what do you get your clothes? Where do
you buy clothes? You've worked with these guys, You've been
in the locker room with these players.

Speaker 3 (01:45:13):
I mean, guy three.

Speaker 2 (01:45:15):
Hundred and five pounds must have like a forty eight
inch waist. Right, when does he buy his clothes?

Speaker 4 (01:45:21):
He goes to the big and tall store. You go
to a big and tall store. You found a way
to get stuffed. Hey, look big they have things for
big men. I mean they have they have items and
and that kind of stuff for big men. They can
figure it out, Like they can do some of those things.

Speaker 3 (01:45:35):
Yeah, like I said, we just got suspenders.

Speaker 4 (01:45:38):
I guess. I mean, I mean that that is a
way to look at it.

Speaker 6 (01:45:42):
You can you can do some of those things.

Speaker 2 (01:45:44):
Yeah, Okay, we're going to a round three eighty fourth
pick pretty good, right, Tampa Bay Bucks cornerback Jacob Parrish,
and tell me about Jacob Parish because if he was
that good. Look, they're not going to drift the c
B in the first round. Third round is pretty good
for CB.

Speaker 6 (01:46:00):
I would think, yeah, I mean third rounder is third
rounder is right?

Speaker 4 (01:46:06):
When I think about you know what he's been able
to do in Toy Bowles defense is remember it's his
own based defense. This dude is a natural nickel corner
instincts of weariness. Todd Bowles to use him in a
very variety of ways, but he just has a nice
feel for it. Parish has always been predicted to be
one of the better nickelbacks. Projected to be one of
the better nickelbacks when.

Speaker 6 (01:46:26):
He came out. It's just been a great fit man.

Speaker 4 (01:46:28):
They rave about him in Tampa in terms of how
he picked him, the defense, how he's played. Then when
you saw his performance, it showed up.

Speaker 2 (01:46:36):
No Sador Sanders was drafted in the fifth round. All right,
this kid coming up right now is my shaduor Sanders.
And I'm I'm the first one to admit I'll make
a miss. I've made a mistake. I would I look,
I'll make many mistakes. Why not sports, No one.

Speaker 3 (01:46:50):
Got hurt by it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:51):
I predicted back in the day that this kid, Ali
Gordon would win the Heisman Trophy. They're running back at
Oklahoma State. I love the kid. I really did. He
was drafted now sixth round, one hundred and seventy ninth
overall by the Miami Dolphins. At least you just saying
he's going to make an impact. What happened to Oli Gordon?
I mean as a junior, he was tremendous going into

(01:47:13):
his senior year. I told you on this show he's
gonna win the Heisman Trophy.

Speaker 4 (01:47:18):
Yeah, no, he was good. It didn't play out the
way that they wanted it to play out. But he's
a good player. I mean, he's a good player. And
what I had a chance to see is I saw
him up close and personal twice. I got a chance
to see him in practices in training camp early than
I saw him in the game against the Jags, and
he toltdal it.

Speaker 6 (01:47:36):
He is a big, physical running back.

Speaker 4 (01:47:38):
He's fast enough to make it happen on the perimeter,
and he I mean, he's everything that we thought he
was going to be at Oklahoma State. He's just really
showed out. And look, it's been the right thing for
the Dolphins because it had some injuries. David h And
went down. He stepped right in and field of role.

Speaker 3 (01:47:59):
Okay, two things more you got up close in personal
Is he a pretty good giusy, a gentleman, good guy? Yeah,
because he didn't Okay, because you don't hear much out
of him, which is good I think.

Speaker 6 (01:48:09):
Yeah, good dude, good dude, it was.

Speaker 4 (01:48:12):
It was all positive when I touched to the Miami Peotball.

Speaker 3 (01:48:15):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:48:15):
And the next thing is what happened during the senior
year he did, his play wasn't as good.

Speaker 3 (01:48:21):
What happened?

Speaker 4 (01:48:24):
And then no one knows, like no one knows, it's
pure speculation. Don't don't know why he didn't play as well.
To close out a look at an illustrious campaign at
Oklahoma State, we were talking about this dude being a
Heisman Trophy finalist.

Speaker 3 (01:48:37):
A winner, and we did finish seventh in the voting.

Speaker 4 (01:48:40):
Yeah, it just it just didn't happen the way that
we thought it would happen for him, which is disappointing
to some degree. But it happens.

Speaker 3 (01:48:50):
I hope it comes on strong, I really do. I
hope he does.

Speaker 2 (01:48:53):
We'll see what And you know what, another guy for
Oklahoma State. I thought we'd do one on the pros,
Mason Rudolph, quarterback of Oklahoma State. You know, bouncing around
right now. He's back up to Aaron Rodgers, isn't he
right now? I Mean I thought Mason Ruff would do
well in the pros.

Speaker 6 (01:49:05):
So yeah, he's been.

Speaker 4 (01:49:07):
He's been. I would say he's been even better than
some would anticipate, right, Like you just didn't know what
he was going to be able to do and how
he's gonna be able to perform. But look, he's been.
He's been great, he's been terrific. He's showing up, he
showed out, he's he's popped in.

Speaker 6 (01:49:22):
He's done some really good things.

Speaker 4 (01:49:23):
And so that's that's good to see and it should
be encouraging for those people who are really all in on.

Speaker 3 (01:49:29):
Him right now.

Speaker 2 (01:49:31):
To make a team, as you mentioned, as an undrafted prospect,
you got to be head and shoulders above everybody else
who was drafted, no doubt about that. His kids wide
receiver from not Ju Dame, Boat Collins, New York Football
Giants six three, two oh six.

Speaker 3 (01:49:44):
What makes him so good obviously the pedigree note Ju.

Speaker 2 (01:49:47):
Dame, You're gonna look twice, perhaps because he went to
not Ju Dame, but really and truly to be undrafted
to make a team, that's huge.

Speaker 4 (01:49:55):
That really is all right. That is huge and full
look full confess Bow Collins. I've known since he was
in seventh grade. My son went to school with bow
Collins coming up, so they went to middle school together.
Bow Collins played for me as a freshman in high
school before he went to Saint John's Bosco, a powerhouse

(01:50:15):
in Bellflower. He then goes to Clemson and Notre Dame.
And the one thing that bo has is he has
tremendous size. He has great strength, he has speed for
his size, and what he's been able to show as
a pro are some of the things that he didn't
show consistently as a collegiate player.

Speaker 6 (01:50:34):
But now he's gotten the opportunity. And even though the stat.

Speaker 4 (01:50:37):
Line said one for eighty, Russell Wilson hit him on
a deep ball against the New York Giant New York
Jets that was terrific. He without question, was the star
of camp up in New York. Everything you heard when
you talk to the people up there, it was bow Collins,
Bow Collins, Bowl Collins. So I wanted to show him
some love because it is uncommon to be an undrafted

(01:50:57):
player and make it and to crack the rotation in
New York is a big deal.

Speaker 6 (01:51:01):
So hats off to him.

Speaker 3 (01:51:02):
Good for you.

Speaker 2 (01:51:03):
And now my question is to these undrafted guys, do
they have agents? I mean, how did they get the
try how did they get to try out? How did
they get into see the New York Giants to get
the deal?

Speaker 1 (01:51:13):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:51:13):
Yeah, you have an agent. You have an agent. And
what happens a lot of times when you get to
the last part of the draft, right day three, even
though in the fourth, fifth, sixth round, you begin to
call guys and say, hey, man, we really like you.
We're hoping that we can pick you, but if we
don't pick you, we would love to sign you as
an undrafted free agent. So you begin to have the
conversation and then what the agent is doing. The agent

(01:51:34):
is looking at options and opportunities, like, yeah, this people
may these people may offer me more money, but this
is a better opportunity for you to make the team.
They didn't draft any wide receivers, they didn't sign anybody
in free agency, and they have a reputation for giving
guys legitimate chances to make the team. It all, it

(01:51:55):
all plays like that. But it's look, man, it's great,
it's great. It's great to see. It's great to Cannes
see it play out like that.

Speaker 2 (01:52:03):
I'm gonna be pulling from he's your guys, I'm gonna
be pulling for him. Okay, now I mentioned if you
connect the dog, that doesn't look good. I'm talking about
the Titans wide receiver Calvin Ridley. Okay, this is gonna
be year two with Tennessee the Titans. He says he's
mentally stronger and in a better headspace in his life
if the injuries, had a mental health journey. Remember he

(01:52:25):
was involved in a gambling suspension. So I gotta believe.

Speaker 3 (01:52:28):
I'm a kid in high school, I'm a kid in college.
What message does this send?

Speaker 4 (01:52:34):
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:52:34):
Why do kids need to hear this?

Speaker 2 (01:52:35):
Because say, look, well, Calvin Ridley, he had a suspension
with drugs, he was injured, he had mental health journey.
Now he's stronger, So it's not a big deal. I
could do this and come back. I think sometimes it's
better not said what people go through. Don't you agree?
I mean, how could the suspension make him strong?

Speaker 5 (01:52:55):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:52:55):
I mean, you're coming back. You want to show people
that you can still get the job done. And he
was one hell of a receiver, no doubt about that.
But there's certain things that just keep within. You don't
have to open up all the time.

Speaker 3 (01:53:07):
Did you agree to that?

Speaker 4 (01:53:10):
I don't. I don't agree with that really, And I
don't agree because one, I have a personal relationship with Calvin,
having known him since he was in high school, an
A plus kid who got wrapped up in some stuff
that he shouldn't have been wrapped up in. Whether it's
the gambling, whether some of the other challenges that he
hasn't disclosed that he dealt with that ILL know about, Like, yeah,
I think he should open up because everybody's dealing with

(01:53:33):
something and a big reason why a bunch of boys
in particular deal with it and it takes them down
is because they don't talk about it. So and Calvin
sharing his story it may encourage other young people to
seek out help for the challenges that they're dealing with.
And because he's a South Florida kid and because of

(01:53:54):
some of the things that he got involved with, he
should speak up. Because they're legion of boys that are
doing some of the same stuff that he participated in
that maybe in hearing one of their heroes talk about it,
maybe they seek out help to help them share some
of that lifestyle and some of the living that they
were doing that isn't positive for them and the people

(01:54:14):
around them.

Speaker 2 (01:54:15):
You won me over, Okay, I'm with you. You want
me over the fact that you know Calvin and this
is what you trust you. I believe you, and I'm
in his corner. So you want me over and that
I was wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:54:27):
I'm wrong on that. You're right, and he probably is
mentally stronger.

Speaker 2 (01:54:30):
And maybe there's going to be a kid that sees
that reads that and hears about it and changes his
life too.

Speaker 3 (01:54:35):
Okay, you got me, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:54:37):
I read that.

Speaker 3 (01:54:37):
The first time I said that. I read that, I said,
oh man, why.

Speaker 4 (01:54:40):
Is he doing that?

Speaker 3 (01:54:40):
It's not that good. But now you set me straight,
and I'm glad you hit it. Tell me that I
really am. Okay, he broke many firmawere life from the
Fox Months Radio Studios. Go ahead, go ahead, he did it,
and tell him.

Speaker 5 (01:54:52):
So.

Speaker 2 (01:54:53):
The blame game is freaking next. The blame game coming
right up right here on Fox Football Sonday. He's Bucket
Brooks and Andy Furman. We're live from the Fox Sports
Radio Studios and it's about twelve minutes before the top
of the hour, and by the way, at the top
of the hour nine am on the East Coast Countdown
with Brian O, Bill Krakenberger, and Jared Smith right here

(01:55:15):
on Fox Sports Radio. But right now, it's farewell to
ld little dupper leaving us right now, it's your last one.

Speaker 3 (01:55:22):
Let's do it.

Speaker 1 (01:55:23):
You're ruin me.

Speaker 3 (01:55:24):
It's all your fault.

Speaker 1 (01:55:26):
It's your fault.

Speaker 3 (01:55:27):
What in all your fault? Maybe it's everyone's fault. Who
knows she's a liar.

Speaker 1 (01:55:36):
That's why there's the blame game, the blame game.

Speaker 3 (01:55:38):
Let's figure out who to blame. He's a blame game.
Go ahead, l D, this is it, baby, Wipe the
tears off your eyes right now, last.

Speaker 5 (01:55:47):
Time time All right, well I got one, I got
one more from my personal question for who do you blame? Guys,
So again, we already know Michael Parsons, we already know
this whole thing. Well, here's something for a blame on.
This one apparently was Michael Parsons was reportedly viewed by
some of his Cowboy teammates as egoistical and very self centered.

(01:56:10):
Before you know, he was traded to the Packers. Who
do you blame for all this little locker room drama.

Speaker 2 (01:56:17):
Andy, we gotta blame Albert Breyer. He wrote about it
in Sports Illustrated. You know what, sometimes just let it go.
It's over, it's done, he's gone move on, okay. But
people just want to fester and keep it. You know what,
if it was such a big story, Albert, you should
have wrote up before he was traded.

Speaker 3 (01:56:34):
How's that boom?

Speaker 4 (01:56:37):
I think sometimes with Albert Breer and those things, you
have to wait until the deal is done before you
can give the truth. You don't want to mess up
something before it goes down. So I don't blame anybody.
I blame Michael Parsons and his teammates. If that stuff
took place in the locker room, it's on them that
he didn't resolve it, so they should have held him
accountable if he wasn't a good teammate.

Speaker 5 (01:56:56):
Yeah all right, Well all right, so hear me out
on this one guy. So, plus size passengers on Southwest
Airlines may soon find it harder to be reimbursed for
their extra space. The airline had a policy encouraging customers
of size to purchase two seats when they book a
ticket and then apply for a refund for the second

(01:57:18):
fare after they travel.

Speaker 8 (01:57:19):
So Southwest will now have.

Speaker 5 (01:57:20):
Conditions to be eligible for a refund. The flight must
apart with at least opens at least an open seat,
both seats must be much must be purchased in the
same fair class, and the refund must be made within
ninety days of your date of travel. This takes This
will take effect in January twenty seventh of twenty twenty six.

(01:57:42):
This makes travel a lot more complicated. Just like me
trying to say run on sentences. Apparently, who do you
blame on this, Bucky?

Speaker 4 (01:57:51):
I mean, Southwest has gone from being like the front
budget conscious airline to just be in a nitpick airline.
I blame them. This is something like where you're nitpicking
on someone who has a little situation. I don't like it.
I blame it.

Speaker 6 (01:58:05):
I blame the company.

Speaker 2 (01:58:07):
Southwest used to give you a free baggage not now
they're charging for baggage too. But I will say this,
you know how I blame fat people. If you fat
lose weight, it was a problem for you to fill
out this fair and buy it two tickets, then lose
a little weight, you know, put the fuck down put
the fuck down a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:58:22):
Really, that's what you gotta do.

Speaker 8 (01:58:25):
Oh all right, well we're gonna move on to Ohio State.

Speaker 5 (01:58:31):
Guys. So, the Ohio State University launched a legal challenge
against a Michigan company's attempt to trademark a phrase that
cuts directly into one of college football's most storied rivalries.
The university filed a notice of opposition with the US
Patent and Trademark Office to contest an application by an
ann Arbor restaurant, The Brown Jug, Inc. The business is

(01:58:53):
see is seeking to trademark Buckeye's tears for use with
beer and liquor products.

Speaker 8 (01:59:00):
Who do you blame on this one?

Speaker 9 (01:59:02):
Andy?

Speaker 3 (01:59:02):
You know, if you think the NFL is a bully,
what about Ohio State?

Speaker 2 (01:59:05):
You know, the Ohio State kind of patented the word
the the Ohio State University.

Speaker 3 (01:59:12):
Come on, let it go.

Speaker 2 (01:59:13):
I mean, you're kidding me right. Let him have this
little restaurant, the Brown Jug and an opera. Let him
have the Buckeyes tears first of all the promots, Ohio State.
Why wouldn't you have him do it? You're just a
big fat bully. You should go fly southwest to.

Speaker 4 (01:59:27):
By wow Man and Andy's not very kind of friendly today,
not very kind of friendly. Okay, I mean, yeah, whatever,
I'm gonna let him go. Yeah, okay, go to the
next one.

Speaker 5 (01:59:49):
Yeah, all right, guys, Oklahoma's Brent Venables takes a one
million dollar bake for the twenty twenty five season.

Speaker 8 (01:59:56):
Who do you blame on this one, Bucky.

Speaker 4 (01:59:58):
Brooks Venables because he hasn't performed up to the Oklahoma standard.
If football team has fallen off, he needs to get
them back. Taking a pay cut shows that to look
they're serious about making him make the changes needed to
get this team back on track.

Speaker 2 (02:00:13):
Hey, Brent, you know what you want your money back? Win, win,
a couple of ky for the Sooners everybody else. Do
the talk to Barry Switzer. He'll tell you how to
do it, all right. And with that, you know, we
got to say goodbye, Bucky. We got to say good
bye the ld he's leaving us, so we got to
say goodbye. It's been a pleasure working with you.

Speaker 8 (02:00:31):
It's been a pleasure to be with you guys too.
I'll miss you, guys. I'll be back, though, I'm sure
here and there.

Speaker 3 (02:00:37):
I thought we finally gotta wish I'm sorry kidding, only kidding.
We wish you well, we really do.

Speaker 6 (02:00:43):
Here we go.

Speaker 3 (02:00:44):
By the way, a countdown is coming up next bucket.
You have a great week. I see you next week
right here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 4 (02:00:51):
Be well.

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