Andy Furman & Bucky Brooks Talk Ring Culture, NBA Finals Game 7 Hype, Mike North Calls In, & Much More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
All right, now, this streak does not happen often. We'll
explain that in just about a minute. Good morning, everybody.
This is Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. He's
Bucky Brooks and Andy Firman, and we're broadcasting live from
the Fox Sports Radio studios. And by the way, I
have to say this that it's a little difficult, and

(00:24):
maybe I'm alone with this to talk fun games and
sports when this bombing going on. I wish these troops
nothing but safety. God bless them, God bless America. And
we move on. Maybe we could take your mind off
that for a couple of hours here talking sports today.
So we do that. All right, we move on, and
Bucky's getting dressed. He'll be with us in a minute

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or so. But right now, I got to talk about
what's happening in the National Basketball Association. Obviously, Game seven
tonight in Oklahoma City and Indiana is going to be
playing against the Oklahoma City Thunder, and they call it
the two best words in sports, game seven. And I'm
not so certain about that. And I don't know who
starts these these little tales, so to speak. Okay, I

(01:07):
don't know if I totally agree, because the two best
words in sports to me may very well be super Bowl.
They may very well be Opening Day or game winner,
Game seven. I don't know. I'm not so certain. But
tonight it is a Game seven in Oklahoma City against
the Pacers. And the Pacers rolled over those Oklahoma City
thunder people on Thursday night in Indianapolis one eight ninety one,

(01:31):
and you gotta wonder, how does that possibly affect the
game tonight? All right, Oklahoma City was embarrassed, But can
the Pacers repeated? Will they sit in their laurels? Perhaps?
I don't know. And some of the stats on the season,
as I mentioned, coming into the street doesn't happen often
Oklahoma City. I don't even know what this means, but
it's a stat that I think needs to be discussed.

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Oklahoma City had only a two game losing streak twice
during the regular season. They've only lost twice back to
back games during the entire season. Does it mean anything?
I don't know. Do you throw these things out the
window when it comes to a seventh game tonight in
the NBA Finals, I don't know. Maybe it means something
we'll see, but it's something to remember put in the

(02:13):
back of your mind. And they did not have any
back to back losses in these playoff series and that
means something as well. I only had six steals in
that game. Six. Where was the defense? That's a question
right there. It's up and down, in and out whatever
it may be. And the GSA where was he? How
was he stopped? GSA? And Terrese Haliburton, They've been the topics.

(02:36):
They've certainly been the topics of discussion right now during
the NBA players. But to me, TJ McConnell, who has
now been the first bench player in the NBA history,
first bench player in NBA history with get this, sixty points,
twenty five plus assists, and fifteen plus rebounds in an

(02:56):
NBA finals And if the writers, hey, any hanging downs
right now, and the Paces were to win tonight, he's
my MVP, all right, Call me crazy, I would say.
TJ McConnell gets this team going, opens up the offense,
and if you watch him play and watch him move
that offense for the Indiana Pacers, he gets the job done.
He's a kid right now, and you look at his background,

(03:19):
he doesn't even look like an NBA player went to Ducane,
the du Cane Dukes. Of all people, they went to
Arizona and now he's like a forty five million dollar
man in the National Basketball Association. It's unbelievable, it really is.
Paces will be the underdogs tonight. They've been the underdogs
all season long. Maybe maybe that's why they've been so successful.
Obviously you got to give a lot of credit to

(03:40):
coach Rick Carlisle, but they've been very successful. Maybe because
no one expected anything from them, and maybe that's why
they win. I don't know if you remember, go back
all the way to the beginning of the season. If
you can't back in October, this team, the Indiana Pacers,
started the season at ten and fifteen, ten and fifteen,

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and now they're in the finals of the NBA. It's
really an amazing story, it really is, and you'd love
to see them win it. Now. As far as Oklahoma
City is concerned, they say it might be their very
first title one but remember, I think it was in
seventy nine who was the Seattle SuperSonics that back packed
their bags and moved to Oklahoma Cities. So they have
one title under their belt. So this game on Thursday night,
you got to go back and say up and down,

(04:23):
in and out the Pacers. They earned every bit of
the respect and praise of that game on Thursday night.
It was a must win situation. We all know that
they played their best basketball of the series. They had
fifteen to three pointers in that game, and the defensive
end of the game for them was tremendous. Really, they
stuffed up on the thunder nineteen points of twenty one

(04:43):
forced turnovers prevented the visitors Oklahoma City from chipping away.
This is unreal if you remember, and really and truly
as a fan, you'd like to see kind of a
more of a game than kind of a blowout. If
you're a Pacer fan, I get it. But it was
a dominant second quarter set the paces at the head
time with a twenty two point lead. They built on
that and TJ McConnell obviously was the catalyst. There's no

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doubt in my mind he was. If you're a basketball fan,
you know it was TJ McConnell that got it done.
Another great performance off the bench off the bench twelve points,
nine rebounds, six assists, and four steals. All right, as
far as HALLI Burton was concerned fourteen points, five assists
and plenty of time to rest at caf as the

(05:27):
Paces only put him in there for twenty two minutes
before the game was really out of control. And here's
another question. Let's get this on the table right now.
All right, the discussion I heard all week long? Would
he play? Should he play? Is he going to play?
Are you freaking kidding me? You know, game six, win
or go home game Tyre's HALLI Burn's not going to play,

(05:50):
and they're talking about is a sixty percent guy better
than not? Forget it? I mean, we've seen if you're
an athlete, you go out there and you just do
what you gotta do, you gut it out. And you know,
he didn't look any worse to me playing that game
on Thursday night, right, Was there any doubt in your
mind that this guy was going to play or not?

(06:12):
I mean, I don't understand the conversation unless people maybe
were just fishing for something to talk about. To me,
that was not even a game. Note. You got to know,
if you're a fan, and history will tell you, athletes
suck it up. They don't want to let their teammate down.
They have a lot of pride, and they got out
there and play. I remember back when the New York
Knicks when they're Titler was like fifty years ago. Willis

(06:34):
Reed was hurt. He didn't think they'd suit him up.
Comes out there in the second half against the LA
Lakers and Madison Square Garden hit his first two shots limping,
limping on the court. These guys are athletes. That's why
they play at the highest level of sport, because they
go out there and play. They gut it out. I mean, really,
Tyres Haliburton was not going to play please, I mean,

(06:57):
don't embarrass yourself bringing up a topic like that. It's
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talk about the NBA, we talk about how long it's been,
the NBA Draft this week. I just I just think
the season, to me, may be a little too long,
And maybe maybe I'm pushing it too hard. Maybe I'm

(07:39):
pushing this too lot, because I just think that you
start in October, you got an eighty two game schedule.
You know, a lot of these guys don't even play.
I mean, they just sit, sit out these games and
they rest, and it's a different brand the ball. When
you watch the playoffs, it's no doubt about that. It's aggressive,
it's physical, and they just go at it all the way.
They're really doing it. It's a wonderful game to watch.

(08:00):
But I gotta believe that when you play eighty two games,
and these guys may very well be the greatest athletes
of them all. They and maybe soccer players. Those two
guys running four or five miles a night and the travel,
I just think these guys probably are the greatest athletes
of the world. No disrespect to you, Bucky. Really football

(08:20):
players are pretty good athletes. But I gotta believe if
we were to ask me the greatest athletes on the
face of the earth, probably soccer players and the NBA guys, you.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Agree, greatest athletes in world soccer players over football players.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
As far as being in shop, I would.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Say soccer players over basketball players. Soccer players because they're
non stop moving. It's a different level of cardiovascular fitness
that you need.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Just stop and start type of deal.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
Yeah, stop and start going. All the way back to college.
I do remember like their workouts and the stuff that
they were doing. They were running one twenties and it's
just non stop going, and I do I did hear
you kind of talk about the amount of since that
they cover over games, like seven eight miles, just non
stop running. That's certainly not what we do and playing
the sport, but it's different. It's a different level of fitness,

(09:09):
but they certainly have agrat great level of athleticism. And
if you're going you look at kind of the basis
of who started in soccer before they moved over to
other sports. They talk about keem Elijahwan, Odell Beckham, Junior,
Kobe Bryant, they all kind of started in that. So
it does speak to the base level of athleticism. If
you can play soccer, you typically can't play any other sport.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
No doubt about that. And look, I'm not pointing fingers.
I'm just saying that just watching the game from a distance.
I mean, you look at the Philadelphia Eagles and their
offensive line. I can't honestly say those guys are in
great shape, but they do a great job. You know,
three hundred and twenty pounds on the line. You know,
I don't think these guys could even walk a forty
littlone run of forty, you know, but they get the
job done it, I mean, but that's what they're there for.

(09:55):
You know. They present the wall for their quarterback, all right,
and the tush pushes. The only team in the league
I could do that. So you know, everybody has their
own job to do, and we do that. Okay. By
the way, I didn't even ask how you worehouse everything,
And you know I missed you this week, so everything
good with you?

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yeah, everything is great, man. I can't complain good. We
can't get that.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Now, let's get back to this NBA thing. I did
mention if the PACs should win, TJ McConnell could be
a very big cog in that win. There's no doubt
in my mind the way he moves that offense and
just swings the ball around. I loved watching this guy
play coming off the bench, and again I said that
if you look at the guy, he doesn't even look
like an NBA player. I say that he's a possible

(10:34):
MVP candidate. He won't get it. I mean, there's no
doubt in my mind, and he won't get it. If
the Pacers win, Tyre's Halliburton to probably get it. But
I do believe that TJ McConnell, if these Riders really
and truly digest this game and he comes in and
gets the job done again off the bench, I think
he's the MVP.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Look, he has certainly done a really good job.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
Like it's it's so hard because the Pacers that played
so well as a team in terms of the way
that they've kind of battlesd distribution when it comes to
the scoring, the guys who have stepped up. TJ connell
O'Connell certainly has a case because he's been the energy
starter for them.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
You think about those games.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
He's had big games, big quarters, he's changed the tenor
of the game with his defense. He's certainly worthy of
being in consideration.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
I don't know though.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
It's so weird because they haven't had a true standout
to dominate the entire time. In the Eastern Conference Finals,
Pascal Siakam was the guy. Halliburton has been hurt. They've
gotten it from everywhere, which speaks to the depth that
they've had.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
So yeah, O'Connell certainly has the.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Case all right. And look, you're the perfect guy to
ask this question, because during the week, one of the
topics I heard all over radio, no matter what the
talk was and what show it was, will Halliburton play?
Are you kidding me? I mean, athletes are a different breed.
If he had one leg, he would play. That's the way.
And I keep on thinking of Willis Reed against the

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Lakers in the NBA Finals way back in the game
fifty years ago. He couldn't even walk. He came out
in second half, he hits two shots consecutively against the Lakers.
The Knicks go on to win, and this guy's limping
all over the place. I never thought he'd even suit up.
Guys do that. You played with guys like that, You've
probably have done it yourself. It's just different. It's just
one of those things you go out there and do

(12:16):
it for pride, for your teammates, and you just got
to gut it out. That's what it's all about.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Yeah, I mean, I think it is inspiring when you
see players kind of gut it up like that, when
you see them have the middle fortitude to be able
to kind of push through the injuries and to make
it happen. And sometimes you can do it briefly, often
in general adrenaline rush, but really to like kind of

(12:45):
take yourself to another place where you don't think about
the injury and compete at a high level, at the
highest level.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
It just kind of.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Speaks to the middle toughness that you have to have
some of these elite level athletes have, because I can't
imagine some people doing it over and over and over again.
But we've seen that, see it in the finals, We've
seen it in other sports where people able to go
to another place to be able to figure it out
and play.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yeah, but there was no doubt in your mom when
Game six or old around that Halliburton was going to play.
You knew he was going to play, right, Yeah, I
know he's gonna play.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
But I was also worried because when you start talking
about calf injuries and those things. The first thing they
came to mind was Dame Lillard popping his achilles. And
sometimes when you're injured in one area, you overcompensate and
it makes you vulnerable to another injury or susceptible to
another injury.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
So I was more worried about is he going to play.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
If he does play, he's gonna be able to play
full speed and make those movements without kind of putting
himself in harm's way. But he was able to do it,
So give them credit. They saw the stuff in pregame
warm up, he was able to feel good. It also,
you know, I think that medical medical team, the training
staff is there's a lot of credit for getting him ready.
He talked about if it was a regular season, he

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would have set out.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
For two weeks.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
It's uncommon to have an injury that would keep you
out for two weeks, but then to be able to
play within seventy two hours. It just typically doesn't happen
like that.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Okay, now let's talk about the mental game. The mental
game in this situation, and you played the game, so
you're the perfect guy to ask these questions. The paces
rolled over them. They were up by somewhat thirty points
one pointant time was one O eight ninety one. The
final score would the Paces, And I know it's the
fullest question, but you know you played the game, and

(14:26):
maybe there's something to it. Would the Paces have been
better to win a close game than to roll over them?
Because now maybe it puts some sort of extra effort
in Oklahoma City, or the Pacers sit back, will relax
a little bit, say we know, we know we got
these guys who got their number? Or when it comes
to game seven, figure out all that garbage. I mean,
is there any mental thing towards that game the way

(14:49):
they won.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
I think.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
There is from their vantage point in terms of having
a lot of confidence. But the NBA, like in these playoffs,
each game.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Is like a snowflake. It's its own individual game.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
And even though they win by thirty forty points, there's
no carryover. You don't get to start with their thirty
point lead in game seven, so it really doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
I think this is its own entity.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
They're playing on the road, they have to go to OKC,
which is a hostile environment. They've won there, but still
normally Game seven home court advantage goes to the team.
It changes the game because you're comfortable, you're in your environment.
Your role players are more comfortable playing in front of
your home fans. They feed off the energy of the
home fans. So even though they'd come into the game

(15:38):
with a lot of confidence, it means nothing once they
tipped the ball.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Up right because to me, it wasn't the law. So
Oklahoma City was embarrassed. There's a difference. I mean, they
just were embarrassed. And I throw a couple of stats earlier,
the fact that Oklahoma City has not had any back
to back losses in the playoffs and they've only had
a two game losing straight twice the entire season, the
entire NBA regular season. Does that mean anything? Coming in?

(16:01):
Did the players even know that? Did the coaches use
that as a motivational thing? I doubt it? But do
those stats mean anything? No, back to back losses in
the playoffs, it.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Doesn't mean anything. Nothing means anything. Now, all those stats
are nice, but this game is different. The pressure involved
in the game is different. No one has experienced this
to this level. So there's nothing that you do in
the regular season that can prepare you for the magnitude
of this moment. This would be a situation where your

(16:32):
best players have to play, your stars have to play
like stars, and then you have to have a couple
of role players that step up and make big plays
in big moments. The teams that get those contributions where
their best players out play the opponent's best players, that's
one that's ultimately they gonna host the Larry O'Brian Trophy.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Right, I will say this. You know, the term superstar.
We've discussed this, you know, at nauseam we have maybe
even last week we did it. You know, you just
can't throw that term out. And I talk about GSA
and Oklahoma City a very good play the League MVP.
You win the MVP. I think that you're the type
of guy that your team knows. On a nightly basis,

(17:13):
they could depend maybe twenty points or more every single night.
You cannot go like a roller coaster. And that's basically
what he did. He was no way to be found
on Thursday night. It's hard to call a guy a
superstar when a guy doesn't deliver on a nightly basis.
That's the difference between a star player and a superstar. Yeah,
he was the League MVP. He carried Oklahoma City to
the finals. There's no doubt in my mind, but to

(17:35):
fall on your face, which he did on Thursday night
for whatever the reason, great defense in the part of Indiana,
whatever it may be. You're a superstar, you gotta be
above that. You gotta be better than that.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yeah, you gotta be above that. And look that the expectations.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
Are high for superstars. We hold him to a higher
standard and we expect them and all of these moments
to deliver. And that's the team between being a star
and a superstar. The superstars deliver in these moments time
and time again. The pressure doesn't make them will, It
actually brings out the best in them. So for some
of these guys that we have touted as stars and

(18:15):
SGA will be included that.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
Being an MVP, we get a chance.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
He gets a chance to show and prove to everyone
that he deserves to be in that special room, that
VP section of stars in the NBA.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
Look, it's great. I don't think there's anything like it.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
Like I've always had a thing for watching how people
perform in the playoffs, whether it's the World Series, NBA Finals,
Stanley Cup, all those things like those are the emotions
that you love to see how people perform. So I'm
excited and I'm decided to see how these guys square off.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
What it looks like.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
You know, you bring up a great point because there
are some players that wilt in the playoffs, and I'm
the one that comes to mind immediately is Clayton Kershew
with the Dodge, great pitcher, and they've compared to the
Colfax for years, but when it comes to the playoffs,
postseason action, you can't find the guy, whatever it may be,
at the competition, the pressure. I don't know what it is.
He probably doesn't know what it is either, but there
are players that just kind of wilt when it comes

(19:09):
to the playoffs right a postseason.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah, I mean there's some players that don't handle it well.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
And the key to being able to be successful in
those environments can you do the routine things exceptionally well.
Can you just do the basics really well without changing
based on circumstance and situation. The great teams, the great players,
they're able to do that, but it takes you relying
on your training, relying on your instincts, and it making

(19:37):
the plays like It's really as simple as that can
you make the routine plays with all the circumstances building
up the pressure.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
That's what the great ones have been able to do.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
No doubt about that. And you know one of the
great ones as well, these Bucket Brooks. Get them on
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(20:32):
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We gotta ask bucket coming up in about ten twelve
minutes from now. But Caitlin Clark is in the news
for all the wrong reasons. She's being used as a
punching bag in the WNBA. I want to know why,

(21:16):
Bucky Brooks. Is it intentional? What do you think?

Speaker 1 (21:20):
I mean?

Speaker 3 (21:21):
It's intentional. It's intentional because she's a good player. And
if you think about the ways that you try and
stop a good player, if you can't defend her straight
up in what you do is you increase the physicality
that you bring to the player. So when you play
with more force, you try and knock them off the spot,
and if she shows you that physicality is a problem,

(21:42):
then you ramp it up even more. I don't think
this is a targeted attack like anything beyond that part
of it. I think, if anything, is the rest of
the WNBA paying respect to her that Look, her game
is so nice. Let's see if we can disrupt her.
See we can change up some of the things that
we're doing. Let's that had a little more physical than
see how she handles and reacts to that.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
I think it's important in sports to have a villain
because when you have a villain, it sells tickets. You know,
people either love or hate the villain. They're creating a
villain in Caitlin Clark, and it's not healthy. I don't
think this helps the league. I think the league could
stand on its own. They got some great players besides
Caitlin Clark, and I just don't understand why this is happening.

(22:25):
And really it's almost it's disgusting to see because it
was just the other night she was poked in the
eye by J. C. Sheldon by the Connecticut son and
the two got into it after the whistle was blown,
and Clark gave Shelton a little bit of a shove
and Tina Charles came in and Marina Maybley came in
and they shoved Clark to the ground. I mean it

(22:47):
has to stop. And I blame the officials. I also
blame the commissioner of the league. I just don't understand
why they're not tougher on this, because, yes, she's a star,
she's helping sell out a lot of these arena is
and she's taken the league to another level, which I
think in the minds of many of these girls that
are playing in the league, or young ladies or women
so to speak, they're not happy. They're not happy that

(23:10):
she's getting all the accolades and they know that they're
part of the league as well. But they should be
They should be that foolish to realize that she is
raising the level of the league. She's raising the exposure
of the league for everyone, not just for her.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
Uh yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
But like, here's the thing, and I think we contribute
to it because we go so over the top with
our opinions on Kaitlyn Clark in terms of the rest
of the league, like bow down and kiss her feet
because of what has happened since she entered league. I
think Kaylyn Clark certainly deserves a lot of credit for
bringing attention to the WNBA, but there are a bunch
of other great women who were getting it done in

(23:49):
the WNBA prior to Kaitlyn Clark, and some of those
came in when Kaitlyn Clark came in. So she is
kind of the eye of the perfect storm that has
created all this interest.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
She does not get any preferential treatment. The same treatment
that Lebron and Kobe and MJ and everyone got in
the NBA when they were kind of on their rise.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
To the top. It's the same treatment that she's getting.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
People are bumping her around, they're knocking around, They're trying
to test how tough she is mentally and physically.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
To see if she can go to another level. Now,
if she.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
Crumbles under the pressure of to increase physicality towards her,
then that's on her and they're going to continue to
do it. But if she surpasses that, they'll move on
to other tactics. But this is a part of basketball.
Like basketball, you hear them talk about playing with force
in the NBA, so you know.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
It translates to the w NBA. She's been a part
of it.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
But because there's so many eyeballs on it, that's why
she's getting more attention about her. But they're not doing
they're not treating her any different, and they treat any
of the other great players like you ramp it up
against those players.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Well, it's funny because I said, coming into the seventh
these are the right words to say, but it came
from the wrong person. What I mean by that is
that Caitlyn Clark's college coach, Leitza Blutah basically comes out
and says that she coached Caitlin for four years at Iowa.
I said that the WNB officials have to start calling
more fouls. Who should force players to change their games? Okay,

(25:14):
number one, I guess she meant by that that it
wouldn't be as physical. What does she mean by that
to force the players to change their games? And why
is Lisa saying this? Why is the commission of the
league saying this? Why is a former college coach saying this?

Speaker 1 (25:28):
To me?

Speaker 2 (25:29):
It's embarrassing. The really is, But how would they change
the game? Buck? I mean, you're a follower of this game,
and what would happened?

Speaker 3 (25:36):
It's not embarrassing her former coach is coming to her
defense and protecting her.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
Like if all.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
Former coaches could take care of their players, they would
want none of their players to be touched. They want
them to let Caitlyn Clark skate to the hoop and
shoot as many shots as she wanted to shoot. That's
not basketball, that's not the way that it should be done.
She has to go through some things so she can
get over the top. The commissioner isn't say anything because
the game is in a place a little competitive conflict

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is good. Having villains good, increases interest.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
It's fine. She's okay. She can handle a little contact.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
She's not the first one to have to endure some
hard fouls and some talking. And look, as much as
people are focusing on what's happening to her, she's a
little mouthy and lippy too. She talks, she says subtle
things up under her breath to players, and so they
take their shots when they can. We can't protect her.

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She's not a damsel in the stress. She's okay. She
can handle what's being thrown at her. We don't need
to come in there and save her and like, oh,
don't touch her, Like no, we want to see this.
This is great competitive conflict is good, little physicality, a
little toughness watching her go through it. And if she's
able to go through and lead her team to a title,
well then even that much more respect will be play

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paced to her. We just need to see her go
through it. We can't just jump in and save her.
She's okay.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
I mean, game on Tuesday night, the Clark and Cholls
and maybe as well, they all got teased Sheldon. She
was rejected from the game and hit with a flagrant one.
So was Sophie cunning him, and then they upgraded it
to a flagrant II and they were fine.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
All right, so the league, that's fine, But did you
see what? Did you see what happened?

Speaker 3 (27:20):
Do you see what happened after Sophie Cunningham got the
flagrant and stepped up?

Speaker 1 (27:24):
You see how her popularity is shot through the roof. Yeah,
ig followers.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
Have gone up like quarter billion, a quarter of a
million in terms of that. She's now become another person
that people were paying attention to. They already paid attention
to her because of the swag and the energy she
brought on top of her game, but.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
Now people didn't.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
Know that she had that in her, that she could
be a little violent. She had a little Craig Crey
enter when she needed it. So now she's more popular,
which brings more eyeballs to the game and that team.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
So it's all good. It's never bad.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
It's not like we're clicking the TV off because we're
seeing Caitlin Clark and others is getting knocked to the floor.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
It's okay, okay, so now what you're telling me. And
looked at Sophie Cunningham. I mean, she's got a lot
of eyeballs there anyway, because the way she looks, she's
sort of a model, right. I think she's a professional model,
whatever it may be. But you know, I think these
players look at that and say, look, if I want
to get some endorsements, I got to get clicks, and
maybe this is the way to get clicks. I'm sure

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that goes through their mind too.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
I mean, all of it, I mean all of it.
All of it is part of the thing. Look at
it the WWE.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
That's what we're having. It's a little bit of the WWE.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Not a scripted reality show, but it's very similar to you.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
Have to have some good you have to have some bad.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
When you have a villain and a hero, it all
works together because we watch, whether we love them or
hate them, it makes us tune in and there are
more people watching because of all of this, and so
that's why we're having more opinions. The only time is
annoying is the casuals. They kind of jump in or
have only jumped in since Caitlin Clark has on the
beIN in at the forefront of the women's hoops movement,

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and so everyone has these big opinions that haven't watched
the game or haven't watched the development of the game.
And she, like so many others who have been great,
they this is the treatment that you get. Like if
I was coaching against her, I would tell, like, our ladies,
they knock her down a little bit, Let's see see
how tough she is. That's a part of it.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
Man.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
Look, I've done that in little flag football with little
people like that's what you do. Like you try and
see can you rattle their cage a little bit?

Speaker 2 (29:32):
How much can they how much can they take? You know,
because I think they're right to lose your cool, but
you lose your your mindset as to what you're supposed
to be doing in the game and you think of
other things. I mean, you're not there with your game plan.
It throws you off your deal, it does.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
Yeah, yeah, you get distracted. So can you disrupt her rhythm?
Can you distract her? Can you change her focus where
she becomes more emotional about those things that are being
done and she's less focused on her job and the
task at hand.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Yeah, any advantage.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
You're trying to do anything that you can to throw
her off her game and throw the rest of the
team off their game.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
So that's a part of it.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
That's why I don't think the commissioner and others are
freaking out. That's what I think is more of the
hysteria from our vantage point as opposed to internally. I
don't think this is anything new, and in fact, you've
heard players say and saying that new. This is kind
of what.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Happens interesting, you know, it's funny to add to kind
of a feature. I think it was in the Athletic
the other day by Unlesa Blue to the coach of Iowa,
and they asked the question, when there's someone who receives
a lot of attention like Caitlyn Clark did, even at Iowa.
But you have a team full of great people and
great players. What do you do? And she came back
and said, you can't ignore it. If you ignore it,
you're in trouble. And she said, we tell our team

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a lot. When Caitlyn's light shines, it shines on all
of us. We all read the benefits from that. So
instead of being jealous about it, let's enjoy it. And
it was getting the rest of the team to buy
into that. And now, look, you played in the NFL.
You play with some stars. Is it like that? Or
people say, hey, look he's going to get us to
the Promised Land? How does it work in the pro
game like that with the NFL?

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Oh no, it worked. It works very very similar.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
You know, the more people are focused on, whether it's
one individual player or a handful of players, the better
it is on everybody. They may catch you by looking
at somebody else. We've heard those stories and recruiting in
those things. It's the same. If you're on a good
team surrounded by good players, you're gonna have an opportunity.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
To be seen. That's what everyone wants.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
So if you can get everyone to set aside the
jealousy and those things, it becomes a really really good thing.
So it shouldn't be something that is viewed as negatively.
It should be positive. Okay, they're giving her a little love. Well,
if they keep seeing her, they gonna see me.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yeah. If you can get your.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Team to buy into that part of it, then everyone
have an opportunity to benefit from the increase attention and
stuff that's on her.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
But blue to say, you can't ignore it as a coach.
Did they ignore in the NFL? I can see coaches
in the NFL ignoring it. Then we'll concern with the
game plan than telling players how to act and don't
be jealous.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
It's a relationship business, so you have to talk to
you players. You have to be honest with what's going on.
You can't sugarcoat it. You want them to know. And
in doing that, you alleviate some of the pressure on
the star player, because sometimes they can put the star
player in a weird spot depending on what their personality.

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Are they outgoing, are they introverted? Do they like the attention?
Do they really not like the attention? Would they rather
have it spread on others? So that's why you have
to address it for the team, and a lot of
It depends on how your star of responds to that.
So good coaches are able to read the room and
they make the right choices.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Now now, blue To continues said that as a freshman,
Kaitlyn didn't understand how to work with other people as
much because she was always the show. But get this,
she said, and this is interesting. There were a couple
of players who transferred after Caitlyn's freshman year because it
was hard for Caitlyn to get along with the other
guys and the other players on the team, and then
she finally learned how to develop her leadership skills. That's interesting.

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Players transferred out of Iowa because they didn't want to
play with her because she was the star.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
Interesting more so, But listen to what you said, and
she said this because I've seen the videos where she's
talked about like being a bad teammate and how she
worked with sports psychologists to become a better teammate.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
And a lot of times they would take.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Her to the side and they would have her look
at the tape, but not of what she was doing
on the court, but her body language, the way that
she talked to her teammates, the way that she would
react demonstratively if her teammate missed a shout or mister
pass or did those things, and how that made the
teammates feel.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
She has a lot of power.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
She has a lot of power as the best player
on the court, and she has the power to uplift
or she can tear down and trying to get her
to create a positive environment by being encouraging as opposed
to chastising or criticizing. That was a big part of
her experience at Iowa and when she turned the corner,
that's when the team really went to the next level.

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It's something that her teammates in Indiana had to learn
and it's something that we all have to kind of
get it. Like, look, she's not the perfect person, perfect
player in terms of a doing all the things right,
Like she has some things that has to be ironed out,
and her coach just kind of alluded to that.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
But yeah, that's something to be seen.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Interesting. Bucky Brooks he ironed it out years ago. I
mean de firma together with Fox Sports Sunday on Fox
Sports Ready. I now we did call them the answer Man, yes,
but you call him Bucky Brooks as Bucky as next.
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(35:01):
Bucky coming right up right here about eleven minutes before
the top of the hour on Fox Sports Sunday. He's
Bucky Brooks and Andy Furman and we are live from
the Fox Bots Radio studios, and of course it's that time,
so let's do it, Patty as Bucky.

Speaker 5 (35:16):
All right, Well, Bucky, I got a question for you here,
So all right, what we got? What we got here?
So with Game seven you know about to commence today
and all that good stuff, and you know, NBA crescendos
down to a halt. Well about not even a week later,
we have the NBA Draft, right and then free agency.
Like my question to you, Buck, is, isn't it a

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little close of a you know, going from all right
to immediately back right into it with that's been a
little too quick to let it breathe, No.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
Not too quick at all. Let's get right to it.
Let's move turn to page. Let's go right to the
next year. It's always been.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
Done like that. Like I kind of enjoy that part.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
You go to the finals, you see the finals and
by the time you get to Wednesday Thursday, we're on
to the next. So to me think it it's okay
to have it back to back like that.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
So, no, it's not too close.

Speaker 5 (36:06):
Anything else, Patty, No, that was honestly, that was the
biggest one I had. That was a chomping at the
bed for that one. I'm all good. Now, it's not
all you, Andy, I didn't.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Say you're all good, but we'll move on anyway. Okay,
you're all games all right? Game seven tonight of the
NBA Oklahoma City hosting the Pacers of Indianapolis. Bucky Brooks,
what is sports? In your mind? Is better than the
final tonight?

Speaker 1 (36:29):
What is that much?

Speaker 6 (36:30):
Man?

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Not much.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
There's there's nothing more. There's nothing better than like Game seven.
Now you talk about is it game seven specific to.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
Basketball?

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (36:41):
Maybe I can go elsewhere, but I just think Game seven,
seeing the pressure that people have to perform against and under,
I love that. That's what I want to see. I
want to see how you perform when the pressures are highest?
Can you come through?

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Interesting? Now, speaking about that, to extend this question just
a little bit, they say the best two words in
sports are Game seven, and I sort of disagree. Was
this other game? There are other words that I think
may top that, some of them Opening Day, game winner,
super Bowl? Is Game seven? The best two words in sports?

Speaker 3 (37:17):
It is the best two words in sports. I mean,
because it doesn't get better than that. It doesn't get
better than having like one game to determine the champ
and to see can you bring it on that day.
It doesn't necessarily mean that, like you're not the best
team if you don't have it, but man, you have
to be mentally and physically tough to deal with the
grind and to really handle the pressure that comes along

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with it.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
All Right, we talk about the best has turned the corner.
Over here, talk about the worst. What truly is the
worst month? The worst month for sports fans. I'm going
to throw out two possibilities. June or February, any other
month that you think might be the worst for sports fans.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
I would say July because June, like we're almost at
the end of June. We had to final July, there
is nothing, I mean nothing going on, Like there's there's
nothing really to watch, Like baseball is in earnest, but
it hasn't got to the point where it's really serious.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Football doesn't start to the end of the month.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
Basketball is done, hockey's done, there's nothing to watch.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
July is the month for vacation because you can go
on vacation and not have to worry about missing anything.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Maybe that's why they do it. Really the weather's good
and then you know, kind of slow it down a
little bit. You could kind of get pumped up again.
But you didn't even mention soccer MLS is playing in July.
But you know that's done.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
But no one takes Yeah, no one. No one really
watched it.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Really don't really don't.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
Yeah, if you tell me World Cup or something like that,
that would be one thing.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
But no, Okay, let's talk about this sport. Joey Chestnut,
he's gonna compete in the July fourth Nathan's Hot Dog
getting Contest. Is this a sport a hot dog getting contest?
Because if it is, I'm gonna enter Patty in that contest.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
To me, No, it's not a sport. I can't, I can't.
I can't take it seriously like they can talk about
competitive eating.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
It's not a sport. Yeah, not my thing. I don't
even know why they show it on ESPN.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
I really get you. But here's the deal. If they show,
you know, pillow fighting, all right, and those other things,
I mean, you might as well show that. I mean,
because it's something so outlandish. Maybe that's why they show it.
I cannot eat probably more than two hot dogs, really,
and then I'm stuffed. I'm stuffed to the gills. These

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guys are putting down sixty seventy. He claims he wants
to eat eighty this time. How do you do that?
How do you train for it? I mean to me,
it's like it sounds disgusting. It really does.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
Oh, it is disgusting. There's nothing nice about that. Yeah,
they're gross, like no one.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Wants to deal with that.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
Like too many dogs just makes me weird.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
I can do it either way.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
They just they take the bunt off and they put
the dog in the in the water. I guess they
boiling water. I don't think they chewing. I think they
just swallow it, don't they. I don't think they chew them.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
It's gross.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Ye, it's discussing.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
I can't. I can't. I can deal with it, you.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Know, and they were in pretty good shape, but who knows.
I didn't want to talk about it anymore. But these
teams have already won that. Add more on Fox Sports
Sunday coming up right here next a blessing or a
curse that's coming right up. Good runing, everybody. This is
Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports. Ready, he's Bucky Brooks,

(40:32):
I mean he Firmanent. We're broadcasting live from the Fox
Sports Radio studios, and away we go. Buck. How you
doing everything good right now?

Speaker 6 (40:39):
I me.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
It's about a month away from training camp. You got
to be salivating right now. Salivating I am. I'm excited
about it. Like we're getting closer to ball being kicked off.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
All the teams and finish up their mini camps and stuff,
and so the only thing is left is low vacation
and then we're back to it.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
But before we get there, we got NBA Game seven,
the Finals tonight, Oklahoma City hosting the Pacers of Indianapolis.
And I don't want to get into breakdowns because you know,
I know nothing, and you know a little more from
than me, obviously, but you know it means nothing. It
really means nothing. But I want to ask you, from
from an athlete's point of view, what is the one
thing to look for tonight in this game. If we're

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watching this game on TV, which we will, what are
you looking at? How are you looking at this game
as opposed to other people?

Speaker 3 (41:28):
The first thing I'm looking for is who is out
of character so very early in the game because the pressure,
So it meants who do you see trying to do
things that are out of their normal routine?

Speaker 1 (41:41):
Is out of their normal role?

Speaker 3 (41:43):
So is there someone who is a bench player that
all of a sudden starts jacking up.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
A bunch of threes?

Speaker 3 (41:48):
Does SGA or one of the star players instead of
looking to score? Are they looking to pass all the
time early in the game? Who gets out of character?
In these games we're talking about more games are lost
than one. So really it's more the avoidance of mistakes
than making big plays. And so can you avoid the mistakes?

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Can you do the routine things routinely? Those are the
things that typically lead you to win games. It's not
necessarily about someone playing above their head. It's being the
same guy that you've been the entire season. It's easy
to build around those players as opposed to the up
and down players. So I just want to see if
everyone can stay within character because the teams they get

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out of character.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
Those are teams they're gonna.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Lose, you know. And the funny thing is that I
keep on hearing this term all the time. Adjustments, adjustment.
You know, hosts throw those terms out. They have no
idea what it means. Adjustments. Really, you know what adjustment is.
When you have a pair of pants on, you make
the belt, belt buckle a little tighter. That's an adjustment, right,
that's an adjustment. First of all, these two teams know
each other day and night. They know everything. They know what,

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they know, how their breath is. I mean, they know
what the order they use, they know everything about it.
So there's not many adjustments you could use on these teams.
I think the only thing is is that cut down
the mistakes. The key to this series, in my mind,
has been turnovers. A lot thereof paces had hardly any
time people are like a six turnovers on Thursday night
that you've got ball control, make your shots, control the ball,

(43:14):
don't turn the ball over you in the ball game.
Don't make adjustments. It's all about how you play the game, right.
I mean, what kind of an adjustment could they make?

Speaker 1 (43:23):
I did little.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
Things that you can you can do, but not big.
I mean, you are who you are at this point.
I mean, you played almost one hundred games together, Like,
this is who your team is.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
These are the plays that you run.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
This is how you execute on offense and defense and
those things. But maybe can I put a spin on
an offensive play? Can I give you a different action
before we get to our main action?

Speaker 1 (43:44):
Those things?

Speaker 3 (43:45):
That's what we were doing football and football you run
the same plays, but maybe you line up in a
different formation and maybe you shift in motion before you
get to it to kind of distract the team from a.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Here's what we're really about to do.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
Those are the things, but ultimately it's convincing your player
that everything that we've done to this.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
Point is good enough, so we don't need to change.

Speaker 3 (44:04):
But it's on us to bring the things that are
always necessary. Look, it's about effort, it's about toughness, and
it's about execution. If you give great effort, if you
have enough mental and physical toughness, and then if you execute,
you win games. I mean, those things never change, and
so hey, play as hard as you can for as

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long as you can. Let's lock in and focus on
the things that we're being asked to do, and let's
do those things really well. If we do that, we'll
be okay with the result. But more times than not,
the result is going to be the way that you
want it to be.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
All right now, Now, let's move it to Bucket Brooks's wheelhouse,
which is the NFL. All right, and you have it
all every week in NFL dot Com, and I love it.
I love talking to you about it, and I love
bringing it when you have there every Friday, and you
talk about off season hype, blessing or a curse. Let's
talk about that for a second. You know, as a player,
you know you got to be really honest. You know
how good or bare your team is. If you were

(44:58):
a member of the New England Patriots year, you probably
knew in training camp the playoffs are a distant dream. Really,
you probably knew that you want to hope you get
to the playoffs. But you look around and you see
the guys you're playing with and it just we don't
have it. You don't have the mojo. Is that I mean?
Is that happening? Because hosts all the time they sit

(45:20):
down behind the microphones. Well, I'm going to go through
the schedule and pick how many games you're gonna win.
That is the most asinine thing I've heard for years.
You can't do it. They're injury factor. You just don't
do it. I mean, no one thought that the Patriots
will come to Cincinnati and beat the Bengals on opening
Day last year. And they're a bad team. They may
have been the worst team in the league. But you know,
as a player how good your team really is. Don't

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you go into the training camp.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
I mean, you have an idea, but you don't really know,
and you know you have blind faith that the team
is going to get better. Everyone walks into it optimistic that,
hey man, maybe we're a little better. You never know
until we started playing games. Three or four games you
have a greater sense of who you are. But in
training camp, everyone's positive going in that look, not necessarily

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that this is our year to go win it. But
we gonna have a good season. We gonna find a
way to get it done and do those things. But
the thing that I will say is you can't fool
the players. The players can look around and they can
look they can separate real from fakeness in terms of
like fact from fiction. So you can sit there and say,
hey man, we're a championship level time team. But then

(46:29):
when they look around, it like we're not a championship
caliber team. We're not really that great. Or sometimes you
can try and hold them down. They can look around.
We're like, no, no, no, we coach, we're pretty good, you know.
So it's having this true conversation with the team daily
about where we are, where we're trying to go, and
how we're going.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
To get there.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
You have to be able to truly assess your team
and be able to make real assessments and real assertions
based on what you see.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
Oh help me out here. I'm a player right now
in the National Football League. I'm going to camp. I'm
a member of the Cleveland I look at my quarterback
who's forty one years old in Joe Flacco. I don't
feel good. I just don't feel that we're a playoff
caliber team, especially in the division that we play in.
I mean, there's no way on God's Green Earth I
think that the Cleveland Browns make the playoffs this year.

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All right. As a player, I'm saying that.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
Because you can you can spend in a few different ways,
like you can stand up in the defensive meeting.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
If you're Jim Schwartz and say, look.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
Miles Garrett, we got Mason Graham and denzil Ward. We
have some other really good players. Hey, we're good enough
on our end where we can hold the opponent's score. Now,
if they can't beat us, if they don't score, So
maybe the defense coordinated the defensive staff, they put more
pressure on the defense to step up, to keep the
score down, to give to the offense a chance. There's

(47:47):
a path to victory every week for every team in
the league. But most teams aren't able to follow the path.
Either they don't want to or they're unable to stick
with the plan well enough to go down that path.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
Well, maybe enough to follow it right, perhaps.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
Some man sometimes, But even if you're not good enough,
you can get the game into the fourth quarter, you know,
like by doing certain things and being really sound and
solid in all of those areas. So, yeah, they may
not be good enough, they may not be detailed enough
to do it. But there's a path for every team
in the league. Because what's different about the NFL than

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college for us or whatever, the playing field is level.
The talent is pretty much evenly distributed around the league.
Now you have to take that talent, develop it, and
maximize it with your scheme and tactics. But the talent
is fairly even across the board.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
So what I'm hearing from Bucket Brooks right now, and
I agree that talent is somewhat even. The coaching makes
a big difference, more so in the NFL than in college,
because in college you can recruit the five star players.
You got them on your squad, Well pay them right now,
that's what they're doing. But in the NFL, if the
talent is somewhat even, the the difference factor probably is
the coaching. Obviously, you know the practices and the development

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of a player, but the coaching probably is the major difference,
don't you think.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
Yeah, coaching matters.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
Coaching has a significant impact on the outcome of games
because you're trying to win in the margins and the
coaching that has done between the lines really really matters.
And so can you get your team we talked about effort, toughness, execution.
Can you get your team to play hard? That is
a skill. Think about what we're talking about. We're talking
about the NBA and looking at Indiana and Oklahoma, city

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and how hard we're talking about the way that they play.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
Well, that's one thing.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
The toughness, being able to be resilient and bounced back
good moments bad moments. The next time that we tee
the ball up, are you going to show up and
are you going to show up in the right frame
of mind ready to win?

Speaker 1 (49:47):
That matters?

Speaker 3 (49:47):
And then the final thing, and maybe the most important
part of it is execution. Can we do what we
are trying to do over and over and over again,
either by being detailed, being focused getting swayed by boredom because.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
We've run the same things over and over.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
Can we stay locked in and focus on the execution
that matters, and that matters even more than most people
would think when it comes to the NFL level.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
All right, at NFL dot com, you wrote this on
Friday that offseason hype can be a blessing and a curse.
Explain that could expand on that a little bit, and
because you know, you even put down in writing that
there was the Chicago Bears had all that off season
hype a year ago, and maybe it turned into a
curse to them because of what happened. They expected so
much from Caleb Williams and it really just didn't happen.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
Yeah, I mean it is it because we don't have
anything to do on our side but create content.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
So what do we do.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
We create lists and we talked about this is the
best of whatever, and this team is the most improved
and we're ready to see this team go.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
And what we.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
Do is we create an expectation for that fan base
and for the league that oh they say, meaning the
media tells us say, hey, this is supposed to be
a really good team.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
Let's see what you got.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
Expectations create pressure because you're trying to live up or
now to those expectations. That's that can be tough for
young teams. That can be tough for any team to
manage the expectations because there's.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
This internal.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
Pressure that you're battling in terms of trying to live
up to what people are saying, good or bad.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
And it's funny you mentioned that because now here's another
factor which I just just dawned on me. The coach
reads that. I mean, you know that'll always say that
on listen to the radio. That don't read the paper,
they do, they read everything. They players as well. And
if a guy is saying this or puts a list together.
Would the coach confront them because you say, again the
famous words of a player and a coach, you never

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played the game. How the hell could you say or
write that? Right, I mean, and you're ruining You're ru
in the prospects of my team this year because of
what you've written or said. Right, you've seen that. I'm sure, right,
I've seen that.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
I mean you you see coaches get upset about those
things and all of that, But you had to remember
the competitive spirit of anyone in the arena. They're looking
for something to get them sparked up. You go out
looking for things to create us against the world mentality
that some believe they need to be super successful. So yeah,

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like the off season, the chatter build some of that,
and sometimes it's about like a proven a critic wrong.
Sometimes it's about proving a critic right. But either way,
you've allowed someone on the outside to set your standards,
set your objectives.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
That's not always great.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Okay, So you set your standards and you set your objectives.
Right now, because you had five teams that won the
NFL this off season, how did you do that? And
let's get into some of these teams that you picked,
How did you manage to get these five teams? Why? Then?

Speaker 3 (52:52):
Well, then, because they're the ones that we were most
buzzed about the most, the ones that we talked about
the most over the course of the off season, excited
about what could be or what should be. Whether it's
talking about the teams that made free agent acquisitions or
teams that added players in the draft or trade. These
are the teams that we're excited based on what they

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have and what they put around them, even.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
With coaches, all of that kind of comes into the mix.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Okay. One of those teams is the Chicago Bears, which
basically fill in their face last year with Caleb Williams.
Why should things be different this year? Are you said
it might be a playoff team the Bears?

Speaker 1 (53:31):
This year? It might be a playoff team. That's the
expectation with all the moves that they've done.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
I mean, one, you go and get Ben Johnson from
a division rival. Ben Johnson has come in talking bowl
like he is. Look, he doesn't believe in walking softly
and carrying a big stick.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
He's walking loudly and.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
We'll see what kind of stick the Bears have when
it comes to the way that he is challenging called
out the Green Bay Packers. He's going to have to
deal with his former team in the Detroit Lions, and
then the Minnesota Vikings division is really really tough. They
went out and they swapped out people on the offensive
line to make sure that Caleb Williams is protected. They
still enhance what they had on the perimeter, Coston Lovelin,

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Luther Burton, two more pass catches to go with Roma
Doomsday and Cole Comet to be able to balance out
this offense.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
They have a lot of firepower.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
They should be able to put up points at a
ridiculous pace. If Ben Johnson is able to do what
he did in Detroit with this squad look, some would
say that they're more talented sometimes like in terms of
what you'd look at in certain spots than the Lions.
So there's an expectation that this team is going to
be a hot, flying circus lighting up school boards. And

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in Chicago, we've never seen an offensive team really have
this success, meaning one of their teams on offense to it.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
It just doesn't happen.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
You know what, This is a big deal. I mean,
a guy like Ben Johnson. I don't know him from Adam.
I mean I've heard of him, I've seen what he's done.
Must be laying in bed at night looking at the
ceiling saying that I make the right move because he
had a going he had everything going from in Detroit
and they were tough, they were good, and they're still
on the cusp of maybe getting into that Super Bowl
again and maybe winning at this time. Now he goes

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to Chicago and should they full floot in their face?
And Caleb Williams is not the guy. Remember he's the
guy that said Chicago's the place where quarterbacks die and
he backed off that pretty good, right, So maybe Ben
Johnson is saying to himself, did I make the right move?
If this team comes out of the gate like zero
to two, one and three, oh boy. I mean he's
gonna have some doubts that maybe I'm not the coach

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I thought I was. Maybe I should have stayed in Detroit.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
That's the meal, right, I mean, I have some initial
doubts if it doesn't go his way. But he'll be fine,
Like he has to kind of grow into his role
for being a play caller to be and a head
coach and that's also a bit of a transition. But
the talent is there, and you'd like to think that
looking at number one over a pick in kay They Williams,
you should be able to do what you want to do.

(55:58):
Officeley be some growing paints, but the hype has been there.
Everyone's excited because everyone has been hyping up Kayler Williams
for over a year in terms of number one overall pick.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Give him a chance. You got to do this, you
got to do that.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
Okay, they did all of that, upgraded it line, the
play calling, got some playmakers. All Right, it's time to
put up a shut up if you Chicago and Kayler Williams.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Okay, and another team that you say one in the
UF season. Honestly, you got to feel for this guy.
You gotta feel for Lamar Jackson. You talk about the
Baltimore Ravens and you say, what do you mean the Ravens.
I mean they've been so competitive the less so many years,
but they haven't gotten it done. And we talked about
guys that kind of wilt in the in the big game,
in the spotlight postseason. I hate to say it, but

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Lamar Jackson's right up there with the Clayton.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
Kershaw's Wow, I didn't what is he done?

Speaker 3 (56:49):
I mean, no, no, no, I'm not saying that you're wrong,
but wow. I never linked those two together. But you
just said in the earliest segment the previous hour that
Clayton Kershaw is one of the biggest playoff underachievers.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
So many words. Now we're saying that about Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
But there is a now and never feel to this
Baltimore Ravens team. They have arguably the best roster in football.
There's not a glaring weakness on this team.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
You don't have a glaring weakness. You have a two
time MVP.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
I would say should have been a three time MVP
based on how you played last year.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
But he didn't win it.

Speaker 3 (57:24):
Yeah, Like the expectation is we got a fast forward
to February and they should be the team representing the
AFC in Super Bowl fifty five.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
A lot of pressure on them. The hype is real.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
Yarry Alexander joining Malachos Starks and Marlon Humphrey and Nate
Wiggins and Cal Humberton, I mean DeAndre Hopkins.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
On the perimeter.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
They have an all star squad. If we were playing
the video game this would be the first team that
you should grab. They have it all. Yeah, like we'll
see because the hype, the hype is there, and the
hype is only going to escalate because look, this team
is expected to get that.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
We haven't seen them get there.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
And Lamar actually is the only multiple time MVP who
we haven't seen play in a Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
You're calling the bullies of Baltimore. I love that. Okay,
So we got two more teams, maybe two or three
more teams you got. I just want to mention them
in past. You got the Patriots. You say they may
be or maybe a push for the playoffs. The Patriots
in like thirty seconds, tell me why the Patriots may
be going to the players this. This is amazing to me.

(58:25):
But you know what, I'll leave my words if it happens.
I will do that to you. I promise.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
Oh, you're gonna eat your words because I have big hangy.

Speaker 3 (58:33):
Downs when it comes to I believe the Patriots are
going to do it. First thing, let's start with the coaching.
Mike Rabel is approven winner. Mike Rabel knows how to
get it done. We talk about a toughness a players
coach who has the grizzled demeanor that you have to
have to win.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
He knows it.

Speaker 3 (58:51):
So he has a program, a proven program. He has
success in Tennessee. He now implements that program in New England,
who has won a lot with a similar program too.
You have Drake Man. The drake may effect. Whether the
Drake may effect is if you have a franchise quarterback,
you have a chance. He showed you in moments that
he has that ability to play at a high level.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
Now you have to go out.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
And surround him with enough people to be successful. They
bring out Josh Men Dames to give him an approving
veteran play caller. They go and get a weapon to
help him in Stefan Diggs. They get another one in
Treyvon Henderson. In the backfield. They tweak and fix the
offensive line and hope to getting them. But then on
the other side of the ball, what they've done is
they've given them a defense that can keep the score down.

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A lot of big time veteran players coming over, Milton Williams,
Harold Landry, Robert Splane, Carlton Davis. This is an old
school tough team. A lot of pelts on the wall.
In terms of the players. They have a lot of experience. Look,
this team is one that looks like they're ready. So
if all the dark horses that are out there, to me,
I'm hitching my wagon to the Patriots.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
All right, the other two teams. So I agree with
the Washington command this because they got Jayden Daniels, so
that's done. But you got the Raiders there, and I'll
tell you what. Maybe the deal with the Raiders right
now is coach Pete Carroll reunites now with Gino Smith
at quarterback. So there's a possibility there. Do you agree
with that?

Speaker 6 (01:00:10):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
Yeah, that's what it is. It's about the Raiders.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
It's about Pete Carroll, seventy three years old walking around
you win gum as a Super Bowl champion, trying to
put some stability and some respect in the franchise that
is dear. He goes and brings his former quarterback over
multiple time Pro Bowl to Gino Smith to me, it's time.
Didn't get it ready, didn't get it rocking?

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
There we go, You're always rocking. He's my guy, He's
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this hour blame game with a special all star MVP
and our number three. But the problem isn't culture. It's
not culture, it's the man talking about it. And that's next.
It's a symbol of superiority that's right around the corner.

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This is Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. He
is Bucky Brooks. I am Andy Furman, and we are
live for the Fox Sports Radio studios. And we crossed
the fifthy yard line right here on Fox Sports Sunday
an a in about ten twelve minutes from now. But
here's the deal. This is this is a pretty good
conversation piece. It really is. Because either this guy doesn't

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get it or he's sticked between the ears or he
just wants to jabber on all counts, he is wrong
and he is Lebron James. He says ring culture is
a problem. Are you freaking kidding me? Really, every one
in all sports from high school on up place for
the ring? Am I wrong on that? Tell me? Bucky Brooks?

(01:01:58):
Am I wrong on that?

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
You're not wrong?

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
I mean, like, we are judged by the ability to
compete at the highest level, and professional sports the highest thing,
the highest honor, is to be called a champion. And
if you're not competing to be a champion, to remain
a champion, then you have no place in the league.
Like no one is respecting you if you just in
here to just ring up a bunch of stats, but
not to take your team to the next level. It's

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a team sport, so we want to see the best
teams win it. And if you're not about that, then
you're really not the right fit right now.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
And I said, it's a simplest superiority of being the best,
or at least being part of the best. Because he's
saying that, you know, there's a lot of guys that
should be talked about, and they are but they've never
won a championship. Okay, and it's not the individual, it's
a team that you play for. Dan Marino, legendary quarterback
for the Miami Dolphins, also sided. Maybe it's one of

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the best players never to win a Super Bowl, the
godfather of the forward pass, Dan marine don't ever won
a Super Bowl. They consider him great, but he doesn't
have a ring. Barry Sanders all right, retired before his prime,
probably right, a legendary guy with legacy of incredible rushing statistics.
Charles Barkley never won a championship, Patrick Ewing, John Stockton,

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Cal Malone, Chris Webber, all these guys. Jerry West won one.
Jerry West won one championship. So I don't know where
Lebron James is coming from. Maybe he's got too much
free time on his hands. All right, let's take a listen,
Lebron the King, let me hear you. Go ahead, tell
me it's funny.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:03:32):
I don't know why I've discussed so much in our sport,
and why is the.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
Alb all of everything? You sit here and you tell
me you know Allan Iverson and Charles Barkley and Steve Nash.

Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
You know, you know, wasn't unbelievable, Like, oh, they can't
be talked about or discussed with these guys is because
this guy won one ring or won two rings or
one like it's just it's just weird to me. It's
like Sam Paige Manning can't be in the same room
with Brady or Mahomes because he only has one ring.
They don't ever discuss that any sports, right or telling

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me that Dann Marino is not the greatest slinger of
all time, or he can't be in a room with
those guys because he didn't win a championship. They don't
discuss those things.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
No one said that, Lebron. No one said that. First
of all, you're a hypocrite to some e stepics. You
were a ring jumper yourself. You jump teams to get
a ring. I don't get it. Where is this coming from?
What kind of a warped mind would you have that?
Let me just say this, nobody cares in sports. Who
finishes second in the Kentucky Derby. No one cares tonight

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if in fact Indiana wins and Oklahoma City loses, No
one's going to talk about Oklahoma City. It's talk about champions.
We talk about champions and if you're a champion, you
deserve a ring. You get a ring doesn't mean you're great.
It means you're part of greatness. That's what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
You know, Caruso might get a ring today if Oklahoma
City wins. He's not great. Good basketball player on a
team that I have to win a championship. That's what
it's all about. Right, you played the game, Buck, Do
you have any rings?

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
I mean, I have a technical ring in terms of
like super Bowl ninety six with the Packers, but I
don't really feel like a part of that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
But yeah, like I've.

Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
Won titles really like yeah, I mean, so it's different.
But yeah, but like here's my thing, and here's my
frustration in terms of like what Lebron said. Lebron is
right because we have added ring culture into it. Right,
it's become a talking point when it comes to how
we discuss where players should rank from a media standpoint. However,

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he also has kind of contributed to that because he
heard the outside noise and he made moves to make
sure that he silenced the outside noise. So, for instance,
going from Cleveland to Miami to learn how to win
and ring with the Teat and then took that back
and win it with Cleveland and anyone again with the Lakers.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
So he's won four titles.

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
So he did that, but some of the moves that
he made was to make sure that he could silence
all the people there. Now if he's talking about the
competition between him and Jordan and those things, which is
really ridiculous argument in terms of like trying to compare
players from different errors, that's one thing, but we're in
this thing because man, you're judged on two things. Rings
and respect, Right, how many rings do you have? And

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do we respect you as a player? That's in everything.
That's the only thing you really really played for. People
talk about the money whatever, But if you Kate Terry
does two things, the money follows you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
If you win rings and.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
You're respected as a player, ultimately you make money. So
Lebron understands that. And when he talks about Dan Marino
and Peyton Manning and those things like that, that's great,
but those are those are legacy conversations down the line.
But any immediacy, it's about winning it. Because if you
don't win it, what are we talking about? That's what
we played. We play to win. That's what you're playing for.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
Here is the deal, I mean, is the key. Here's
the answer to the entire question. Jerry West. He went
to nine NBA finals, he won one, got a ring,
got one ring. He's the face of the league. He's
the logo. Jerry West is the logo. So you're telling
me that because he's only got one ring, you know,
he's not great. He's not a great player. You know,

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he just had he did play with some great players
with him. Elchiin Bayley was a teammate. Okay, so he
had some great players with him. He just did not
match up or his team did not match up to
those great Boston Celtic teams in the early sixties. Couldn't
get it done. I mean, so, I don't understand because
Lebron won what for a fourth time NBA champ, does
that mean he's not great? Look, I don't like measuring

(01:07:43):
player against player. It's always a Lebron and MJ which
is ridiculous because Lebron is so much more physical than him.
He's a better rebound than him. They're just two different
types of ball players. And if you want to ask me,
the most dominant player to ever play in the National
Basketball Association. I gotta tell you was World Chamberlain and
how many championships did he win? So it doesn't make

(01:08:05):
any sense what he's going with this. And why is
rings more important in the NBA than in Major League
Baseball or in football. I don't get that either.

Speaker 3 (01:08:15):
Yeah, Like so he's the thing. I think it's I
think it's important in everything. I think people talk about,
like being a champion and all those things. There's a
special place that we hold champions. People talk about Derek Jeter,
and you can argue whether Derek Jeter was like an
all timer in terms of a player, but one thing
that we all talk about is like he's one of

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the greatest winners that we've ever been around, we've ever seen.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
And yeah, he had three thousand hits and all that
other stuff. But like, I.

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
Believe people view Derek Jeter and respect him more for
his ability to do what's necessary for the Yankees to
win as the captain. There's something about being able to
do that even more than this teammate we went with
Alas Rodriguez. You know, they're different levels, Like the winning
the rings separate the guys at the highest level. There's

(01:09:04):
a reason why we talked about Tom Brady, and then
before that we talked about Joe Montana.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
There's something about winning.

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
And I will say this because I do believe maybe
some of Lebron's frustration comes from the only argument that
people say, like, well, Jordan went six for six, right,
Lebron could never go whatever, Like he's lost.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
In finals, He's never six or six.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
But the funny thing in football, tom Brady didn't win everyone.
Tom Brady has seven rings, but we don't talk about
like tom Brady was seven for seven, Joe Montanna was
four for four, tom Brady wasn't, but we called tom
Brady the goat. So it's this nuance to the conversation
that must be selected. But a lot of it is emotional,
Like people are emotionally tied to Michael Jordan, they emotionally

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tied to Kobe and Lebron, And so those debates are
those like don Quixote, like trying to fend off the windmills.
You know, you just can't. You can't do it. But
that's what he's talking about. But look, man, his record
should speak for himself. If he's talking about himself in
this argument, scoring titles and all that. I mean, well,
like he has an all time scorer, all this, all

(01:10:09):
that he's won rings, like will he ever scaled him
out and be considered to go like Michael Jordan? Probably
not because people cling dearly to the Michael Jordan thing.
But he certainly earns his face in that conversation, which
is an accomplishment in his own.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
I will say this. You know you mentioned Derek Geta,
he mentioned all these other You got to mention the guy.
The biggest winner of all time to me has to
be Bill Russell. Bill Russell with the Bust and Celtics,
and look, is he the greatest player of all time?
He's up there. I mean, and I hate to use
the term Mount Rushmore, but I don't think he'd be
on Mount Rushmore. I mean, may he rest in peace,
but a tremendous player. He was a great coach. You know,

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he was the first African American coach there in the NBA.
So here's the deal. And he wanted as a coach,
but the point is that he had great teammates with him.
So the deal is, one person doesn't win a ring,
a team wins a ring. I'll give you an example,
I think Oscar Robinson. I love the Big oh. I
can send him a friend. He won once with Kareem
in Milwaukee. Doesn't mean he's not a great player. He's

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not up there. And really, Lebron, you never mentioned his name.
To talk more about Charles Barkley, let's talk about history.
You want to talk about this topic, you better do
a little bit of homework. I'm talking about people that
talk sports all the time. There are great players way
back in the day, they really were, and Will Chamberlain's
one of them. And the big Ol' Oscar Robertson was
one as well, and Big O only won one championship.

Speaker 3 (01:11:33):
Yeah, I mean, look, we can talk about a few
different things, like you want to be special because you
want to win the championship. You want to compete at
the highest level. You want to be a part of that.
Because there's one thing about that, like they have to
call you a champion forever, you're forever known as a champion.
But if you're not dead and you are a great player,
like you respected, there's something different though about being a champion.

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That's why we give out gold medals, you know, that's
what we talk about rings and stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
To designate those things.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
That's what we keep score. Think about it. I mean,
otherwise you wouldn't keep scoring a game to have a
winner and a loser. That's what it's all about.

Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
That's what it's all about. Being a champion is different.
So he knows that. Man, he's playing along like it's
some of the things. I'm a Lebron fan, but there's
some stuff that sometimes I'm like, it's a little cringey,
Like come on, bro, like what are we doing? Like,
come on, man, Like you know what it's about. It's
about winning. And if you look, if you're not winning,
then what we're doing this first place in no place.

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So that's what we have to get to.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
That's what we got. I gotta echo your feeling here
because I do. I enjoy Lebron. I think he's been
great for the NBA.

Speaker 3 (01:12:40):
Thing.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
Is a hell of a player. It's a great play
He really was great player in high school all the
way through. I mean the amount he's a superman in
the fact that they're playing at the age of forty
one and still putting up twenty plus points a game.
He's tremendous. But I'm not saying he's wrong here. But
I you just kind of tone it down a little bit.
I mean, it's crazy because we do talk about great
players who haven't won. Ted Williams, to me, may be

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the greatest hitter of all time in baseball. Not as
far as number of hits because Pete Rose has that,
but as far as a pure hitter, he may very
well be the greatest hitter ever to play the game
of baseball. Guess what one World Series and he lost?

Speaker 5 (01:13:16):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
Bad teams, those bad Red Sox teams, Ted Williams. I mean,
look at these guys. I mean, come on, there are
other guys. I mean, I think the Ty Cobb played
one in three World Series with the Detroit Tigers way back,
what in nineteen oh seven and something I don't remember,
but he lost all three, didn't win any I mean,
you talk about the people talk about Ty Cobb all
the time. I don't get it. I mean, where is

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this coming from unless a little bit of jealousy and
envy because he wants more rings, right, think about it?

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
Yeah, I mean that's what it comes down to.

Speaker 3 (01:13:47):
It comes down to the jealousy and envy and all
of that other stuff, which is terrible, awful.

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
It's always awful.

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
Yeah, it really is. Jealousy's terrible thing. All right, I'll
listener to you, though, Bucky Brooks, I am, I got
to admit it. I am a little jealous. I mean,
I would have loved to have been your teammate. But
I just you know, I couldn't even put on the equipment.
I wouldn't even know how to put on football equipment.
Think about that. That's how stupid I am, right. I mean,
if I was next to you at the lock as
your bay buck, could you help me out with the

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shoulder pairs?

Speaker 5 (01:14:17):
Here?

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
Which way do they go? And I never was shoulder
pains in my life. I mean you look at me,
you probably think what a goof? What a goof? This
guy is? Really? I mean, but I could run though,
you know, back in the day, I could run. Right
now it's a little more difficult, but we move on.
He's Bucky Brooks, I'm Many Firmer. Weel Fox Sports Sunday,
not Fox Sports Radio. Now you have two choices, yay

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or nay. And you know what the next yea nay
color Right up. He's Bucky Brooks and Andy Firmer wheel
Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. We're live from
the Fox Sports Radio studios, and of course maybe eleven
minutes before the top of the hour. But and there's
time for a and A. Let's do it. Okay, let's
figure rock those brains, gentlemen, these stories needed ass I

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think we need a ruling on this. Yes it is.
Are you ready, Patty? You want to give a y
A RNA out there?

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:15:08):
I do have a yay RNA for us guys. So
earlier this week, Pete Carroll, you know he's now coaches
for the Oakland or Oakland the Las Vegas Raiders. I'm
still thinking of the past here, everybody, Thank you, thank
you mighty so Pete Carroll actually went on to say
that with the whole recent voting of certain rulings, he

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opposed receding in the playoffs. He went on Marshall Lynch
is actually a podcast, uh, to say that I was
against voting for the other rule. I vote for division winners.
And he credits it thanks to his big win in
Seattle where is the Beast Quake where they were a
wild a random little Cinderella wildcard and beat the New

(01:15:50):
Orleans Saints. He credits to that U yay or nay
on his side on this, Andy Furman, I'm with Pete Carroll.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
Really, I got to believe that means something. To win
a division, you got to get some credit for that.
I like Pete Carroll, he's my guy. I'm with him
on this.

Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
I agree. I'm with him. It has to be something special.

Speaker 3 (01:16:08):
Why have divisions if you're not going to reward the
division winner. The division winner should be able to get
a home game. If you're a walk our team, tough luck,
get on the road and be able to do it.
Like that's just what it is.

Speaker 5 (01:16:19):
Yes, all right, sweet sweet, Well we're gonna go from
football to foot Bowl, and by football I mean soccer everybody. So,
Christiano Ronaldo has black nail polish on his toenails. It
is a trend to popularize by MMA fighters. They do
it to apparently harden their toenails and prevent them from

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from crackling or splitting under any duress and all that
stuff while they play. What do you guys think, yay
or nail on this? Bucky Brooks, I'm gonna gave on it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:52):
Like nail colors are an expression, and so if Christian
Renalden wants to put black Neil Paul shown his toes cool.
We've seen a trand amongst young people with Jared McLain
and all these basketball players and football players.

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
Will begin to paint their nails.

Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
They should be free to express themselves how they see fit.
I don't have problems, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
I gotta be honest with you guys, because I never
ever lie. You know, I may be foolish in that regard,
but I have to say yay, and I'll tell you why.
Of course, I do the same thing, all right, And
I may have to now now that I went public
with this, I may have to post it and I
may do it on X.

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
But don't tag me. Don't tag me. I don't want
to see your tone. Don't don't tag you. I don't wow.
I'm good.

Speaker 5 (01:17:42):
And speaking of someone who probably doesn't want to be
tagged right now. Schador Sanders was cited for speeding twice
this month, our media targeting him.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
Yeay, your nay, Andy Furman.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
Well, I would have to say yay in a sense, okay, yay. Well,
like a little astro going to tell you why he
was doing over one hundred miles an hour. Okay, So
obviously you know a CoP's could be sitting in this country.
Wait what just went by? But you know, you know,
if you're in the Cleveland area, you know who he is.
You know, if I'm a cop, I'm giving him a break, Like, hey, man,

(01:18:17):
you know, should do a slow down, a little bit
slow down? Really, I mean, you don't want to get
the exposure of pr that you're getting like right now.
So I think there's so much tent I think he is.

Speaker 3 (01:18:26):
Oh look man, like, I mean, the rules are the rules,
and so if you if you're going forty miles over
the speed limit, that's a problem. I won't link like
him speeding with oh my god, this is why they
shouldn't have drafted him. But this is why you feel.
But look, they're trying to really protect himself. We've seen
hainous accidents or whatever. I still think about Henry Rosse,
even though shoulder wasn't drinking. But look, you just want

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all young people, all drivers, to be safe. So he
can't be forty miles over the speed limit.

Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
So it is what it is, all right, it is
what it is.

Speaker 5 (01:18:58):
Well, it kind of is for what it is over
here for this guy. So former NFL player turn broadcaster
Richard Sherman was cited for a second d UI. Does
he or should he lose his broadcasting job?

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
Yay or nay?

Speaker 1 (01:19:13):
Bucky Brooks, M. This is a tough one, man.

Speaker 3 (01:19:16):
You don't want to see anyone drink and drive like.
It's a serious and one of the most egregious offenses
you can have. Now, ultimately it's on the companies that
work with him to make that determination. But look, it's
not a great look, you know what I'm saying, Like
for anybody to be driving job, we have so many
things available to us to avoid that, and.

Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
So yeah, I can't say that I'm a big fan
of it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
I don't want anybody to lose their job, but look,
sometimes the consequences that come.

Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
With it, you know. I hate to say yay. I
don't want anybody to lose their job either, because I
know it's just bad. Okay, but this is a bad look.
And I tell you what, My buddy Tom Brenneman lost
his job as saying something that was kind of off color, offcanic.
He was a guy did Fox games on football, did
CINCINNTI Reds games on. He just lost it all. He's
back now doing stuff, which is great. But so I

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think Richard Sherman should be punished. I really do, all right,
last one real quick.

Speaker 5 (01:20:04):
So Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders say they're getting a serious increase
in pay, a four hundred percent boost.

Speaker 2 (01:20:11):
Yay or nay? You better hold on. Jore lifted a break.
Let's hold on this. Let's discuss that later continued more
stay with us. All right, it's time to get off
the fence. It really is. That's right around the corner.
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down to business right now. I want I want to
pick from you with the score. All right, A little
wager here, maybe just a fun way. I don't know.

(01:21:47):
Pati is thunder tonight, who wins and why? And a
possible score?

Speaker 1 (01:21:52):
Okay, let's do it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:55):
Go ahead?

Speaker 1 (01:21:56):
Well, okay, Joe, I know if you had any more
credit to you before.

Speaker 2 (01:22:00):
Well maybe the MVP two throw the MVP in two.

Speaker 3 (01:22:04):
Okay, so we'll go with OKAC winning. It will be
a lower scering game. So let's go one oh three
ninety eight SGA wins MVP as OKAC wins their first title.

Speaker 2 (01:22:19):
Patty, you could you write this down so we have
it for next week? Yeah, we do that so I
could laugh at Bucket Brooks after I'm uncorrect on my pick.

Speaker 5 (01:22:27):
Can we do that writing it down currently?

Speaker 2 (01:22:31):
Thank you very much. I'm picking the Indiana Pacers. They're
gonna win. They're gonna win one O six to ninety seven.
And I'm thinking, and this is crazy, but I got TJ.
McConnell's the MVP. All right, how's that We leave it
at that? All right?

Speaker 1 (01:22:46):
There we go.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
Now now for the big question of the day, which
we didn't have time to do. In yay n A,
the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders say they're getting a serious increase
in pay, a four hundred boost and pay. This is unbelievable.
They'll last deal was four hundred bucks a game, the
latest race. And it's unbelieved four times that the latest
rays is four times that. Let's talk about it. It's

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just out of control. I mean, well, hear about the
Dallas Cowboys. They won't pay Dak Prescott. I mean really,
I mean now they're paying the cheerleaders. I know, it's
a different, different salary range. But come on, it's embarrassing.
What do you think about that four hundred bucks going up?

Speaker 1 (01:23:27):
Look? I like the fact that it's going up.

Speaker 3 (01:23:29):
I mean, obviously you haven't watched America's Sweethearts and you
haven't seen the grind that the Cowboys cheerleaders go through,
because if you had, you have a great appreciation for
the contributions to the team into the franchise.

Speaker 1 (01:23:41):
So it's long overdue the work that they've done.

Speaker 3 (01:23:44):
Charlotte Jones deserves kudos for up into pay for the ladies.

Speaker 2 (01:23:48):
Yeah, the list I heard maybe on way off base. Now,
this is years ago that the Cincinnati Bengals were making
like something like twenty five bucks a game, And I remember.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
I come on, Andy, what were we doing twenty five
bucks a game?

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
I do I don't think they make much. I really don't.
And more than that, I remember the last time when
the Bengals were playing in the Super Bowl in Miami.
The Bengals didn't take them down. There are going their
own and they weren't gonna pay. It was a big
to do. It was a big mess. When the Bengals
went to that Miami super Bowl. It was it was nuts.
It really was. I mean, there's always a monetary problem

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with the Bengals. I hate to say, Trey Hendrickson, Joe Burrow,
Jamar Chase. I mean, come on, Tie Higgins. It's just
it's bad. I mean, And how would that affect a
player who's in college getting drafted and here's his name
called by the Bengals and he's home. That's the team
that doesn't pay, right, I mean, really, it just you
don't want to go there. I mean, Caleb Williams says

(01:24:43):
the Bears are the team where quarterbacks die. He may
be better of going there and going to Cincinnati, the
team that doesn't pay.

Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
They don't they don't pay.

Speaker 3 (01:24:52):
I mean, it's look, it's crazy, like how we're in
the business of being in the business of not paying, Like,
why be in the business if you don't want to
pay people for the services you gotta pay him?

Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
Doesn't make sense.

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
I don't care. And more than that, now you played
the game, you were in the league. What was the
word around the league? Was there talk around the league like,
you know, you know what they're playing Cincinnati is like,
you know, they don't pay any money? Was it talk
like that in the locker room?

Speaker 3 (01:25:15):
I mean it was it was talking about that, but
it went beyond that. They just talked about how cheap
the organization was. At one point, so andy to take
you back, like every player, there's equipment room, and then
the equipment room you go get your shorts, your socks,
your T shirts, so that if you missed a shirt, Hey, Bob,
I need like can I get a T shirt?

Speaker 4 (01:25:34):
This?

Speaker 3 (01:25:34):
And that, they're like, okay, they throw you one. In Cincinnati,
they didn't have that. They had a bin, and I'm
sure you've heard the stories about the infamous bins where
they would just have the bens in the middle of
the locker room where if you needed a shirt you
would just go dig your hand in the bin and
take out a shirt and then they were clean. But
they certainly didn't operate like other people operated. At one
point they told me that guys had to pay for

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their own gatorades at the facility.

Speaker 1 (01:25:59):
Like you had the vendominis and doing those things.

Speaker 3 (01:26:01):
So they have always operated on a very tight budget
when it comes to that, not a lot of excesses
that they bestow upon their players.

Speaker 2 (01:26:09):
I remember my guy Marvin Lewis was coaching the Bengals
he was bitching because they wouldn't give him towels. He
wouldn't give the guys towels in the locker room. It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:26:18):
I mean, like, and I noticed, and I know people
kind of beat Marvin up. But the job that he
did there to win with fright of that stuff he
never gets. He never gets, never gets enough credit for
what he was able to do leading that team out
of the dul Drums. They didn't win a playoff game
on his.

Speaker 1 (01:26:33):
Watch five years with him.

Speaker 3 (01:26:37):
Yeah, Like, it's unbelievable that they were able to get
so far given people.

Speaker 2 (01:26:41):
Talk about the term culture, which I don't like to
throw out a lot. He turned the culture around for
that team, he really did. You know, they were looked
as laughable losers until he got there. He turned it around,
and it was a difficult turnaround, not so much with players,
but for management. I mean, they had the smallest scouting
staff in the league. Everything was antiquated, Everything was like
nineteen fifty with that team, and Marvin kind of pushed

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him and turned it around. He did, He did turn
it around somewhat. They're kind of going back a little
bit right now, but we'll see what happens. And I feel,
you know, I feel for Zach Taylor and Joe Burrow,
I really do. I mean, you know, Joe Borrow was
asked about the Troy Henderson thing and he says, well,
at least this year we only have one problem. Last
year it was two, you know, with T Higgins and
Jamar Chase. I mean, you got to be you know,

(01:27:26):
really gotta believe the clock is ticket for Joe. I mean,
his year number six, I mean, he's not getting any younger.
Got to get into the Super Bowl and win one.

Speaker 3 (01:27:35):
I mean yeah, it sounded the first year certainly on him.
And now that they've paid so much money to their
perimeter playmakers and Jamar chas T Higgins with Joe Burrow,
yet I mean, they have to get it down with
the offensively team.

Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
All right, now, let's talk the ball because I could
see that you're getting all pumped out now talking about football.
Let's call this if I may, and I'm not putting
you on the spot because you're a wealth of knowledge,
you really are. I call this the Bucky quiz. And
what is it? There are eleven teams in the National
Football League have new defensive coordinators, which is you are Baileywick.
You know defense, you're the guy. This is right up

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your rally. I'm going to throw the team at you
and we'll talk about the biggest problem that each defensive
coordinator faces. Are you ready for this? Because I know
you know this. I know you do, and maybe it
will be so good that you may even write about
it one day, who knows. Okay, I'm going with the
Atlanta Falcons first, jeff Oldbrook Okay, and the Falcons defense
struggled last year big time, and they do have any

(01:28:31):
game changing plays. Really. They rank thirty first with only
thirty one sacks. They rank seventeenth with twelve interceptions. What
is this new dcord that I have to do? Will
he get it solved?

Speaker 3 (01:28:43):
Well, the first thing they gotta do is they have
to have a consistent pass rush. The biggest issue that
has played the Falcons. They have not had a consistent
pass rusher since John Abraham, I mean years and years
and years without a dominant rusher on the edges. And
so until they're able to generate a pass rush, you
won't be able to.

Speaker 1 (01:28:59):
Generate turnovers or any of those things.

Speaker 3 (01:29:01):
It all relates the more pressure, the more turnovers. So
they have to up the turnover, up the pressure so
they can have more turnovers.

Speaker 2 (01:29:10):
All right, I agree with you there, Okay, but I
still don't think they're gonna be any good. Okay, we
move along. This is your team that you said won
the off season, all right, that's the Chicago Bears. Dennis Allen. Okay,
he was hired after ten years in New Orleans, the
last three years he was a coach. And this guy
they claim I'm reading about Dennis Allen, they say has
various different fronts, various different blitz packages and coverages. Okay,

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how quick will these players now on the Bears? And
you talk of the great players that they obtained and drafted,
it's gonna be several games. I would think for them
they got comfortable in this new system that seems to
be somewhat complex.

Speaker 3 (01:29:51):
Yeah, it may take them a wide to get comfortable
in this system because they come from a system that
was pretty simple, simon, very simplistic. Put an effort, put
a lot of their attention on the effort. How hard
you played in those scenes with Dennis Allen. It's a
little more trick, a little more gadgetreet. So everyone's gonna
to be on the same page. It may take the minute.
Their offense is going to have to do a lot
of the heavy lifting early, so their defense can kind

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of come through. We'll see how it works out. Look,
I talked about the hype machine. The hype machine is
off the charts for the Bears, so he better figure
it out quickly.

Speaker 2 (01:30:22):
All right, let's talk about the Cincinnati Bengals, and they
got a new decordinator and Al Golden. The Bengals, if
you remember, and then kind of you gotta remember, kind
of way back in the day, no, no, several years ago,
they had a top ten defense and that had a
great offense, which they still have a fairly good offense.
And now we'll see how good it is if Jewo
Borough states healthy. But the last several years the defense

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really went down down the tubes, and they fired the
defensive coordinated Luana Rumo, and they hired Al Golden. All right,
Golden was he did work with the Bengals at one
point in time, but he was noted Dames defensive coordinator
and the best player on that defense. Trey Hendrickson remained
really at odds with the team over the lack of
a contract extension. He led the league with seventeen and

(01:31:05):
a half sacks last year. So Willie will al Gordon
to al Golden have to change the defense without a
pass rusher and Trey Hendrickson. How does he do that?
How does he map out a defense? Now? Does he
have one with Trey Hendrickson and one without him?

Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
No? I mean I think you have the same thing.
And I'm sure they're.

Speaker 3 (01:31:26):
Confident that Trey Henderson will eventually make his way back
to the team and the program. This is a tough
one for El Golden because he has been given a
lot to work with and first round pick Shamar Stewart
is not in camp, has not been around. I mean
he's been around, but he hasn't been able to get
on the.

Speaker 1 (01:31:41):
Field and work out.

Speaker 3 (01:31:42):
How can the first round pick get better without real reps?
That's a problem. Trey Hendrickson, you have the contract STAFU,
your best defensive player, guy who has the third most
sacks over the past four years, and you can't get
him done. It just look it's just messy. But they
can overcome it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:58):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:31:59):
It's gonna take a lot to keep everyone on the
same page being able to get this done.

Speaker 2 (01:32:02):
Okay, this guy, to me and I don't know why.
I just think he's a clown. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm
talking about Matt Eberfluss from the former coach of the Bears.
Now he's the defensive coordinator of the Cowboys. Let's talk
about the Cowboys defense for a second. They have had
five defensive coordinators the last ten years. You've always talked
about continuity, you gotta stay the path. Really, the lack

(01:32:26):
of continuity has made it difficult. I would have to
think for players on the defensive side of the football
to reach their full potential. Cadiba flush get this done.
And again, am I wrong by calling him a clown
because I thought he acted like a clown in Chicago.

Speaker 3 (01:32:41):
I mean, he may have shown some clown nish things,
but he's a good coach and he's a really good
defensive coordinator. They can fix this because the style that
he wants to play is very similar to the style
that he used to play under Rod Mary Nelly. They
want to see ball get balled. They canna be more
of his own based team. They can run, react and
get it after it. They can get this done. The

(01:33:01):
biggest question that I have for him is how is
he going to deploy Michael Parsons.

Speaker 1 (01:33:06):
Is he an off ball linebacker? Is he an edge player?

Speaker 3 (01:33:09):
What is it that he is going to do? What
is he gonna do with number eleven? Because number eleven
is their best player? How does he maximize him? How
does he unlock and unleash Michael Parsons.

Speaker 1 (01:33:19):
On the world.

Speaker 2 (01:33:22):
Kelvin Shepard is the new defensive coordinator for the Detroit Lions.
I like the situation here. Why do I say that
Because he's been the linebacker coachin is twenty twenty one.
Now he's the defensive play callers. So the move continues
the continuity which I called for in Dallas, which they
don't have. So I think it's going to help the problem.
I think in the Detroit right now with the Lions.

(01:33:43):
Is John Morton taken over for Ben Johnson and as
defensive couentna Aaron Glenn now is there with the Jets coach.
So I think the offensive side may be more of
a question in Detroit than the defensive side. That's the
key right there. I think.

Speaker 3 (01:34:00):
Yeah, So when I think about Detroit, I think about
John Morton trying to figure out how to get this
offense going. He has big shoes to step into because
Ben Johnson was not on really really good at lightening
up scoreboards. He did it with a flare, with pizzazz.
Can John Morten live up to the hype that will
proceed his arrival in terms of like this was a fun,

(01:34:22):
dynamic offense.

Speaker 1 (01:34:23):
It was fun, but it was also physical. Can he
keep that? Can he do it in his own way?

Speaker 3 (01:34:29):
But look, the standard is so high because they were
so fun, so dynamic. That's an issue. On defense, Aaron
Glenn did a great job of adapting. Kevin Sheppard would
have to adapt on the fly. One of the things
that Aaron Glenn did was able to constantly assess in
evaluable his talent and then play to the talent.

Speaker 1 (01:34:46):
Can Kevin Shepard do the same thing? That's the meaning
of question.

Speaker 2 (01:34:49):
Well, I mean as far as the defense of Detroit,
they weren't they one of the lead leaders in the
takeaways and scoring scoring in Russia? So to me, I
mean things who probably stay the same defensively in Detroit.
I mean you're just moving a guy off from the linebacker,
coach a defensive coordinator, which I like that. I mean
harving from within. I always said to myself, you know,

(01:35:11):
why don't they go out and get the best available guy.
I've kind of changed my philosophy on that. I think
that you may be better off staying within the family
because they know philosophies, and of course they know the players,
so I think it may better off bringing them up
through the ranks than getting a guy from outside.

Speaker 1 (01:35:26):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:35:28):
Yeah, sometimes, but you know, like just because you're a
good position coach doesn't mean you're ready to be a coordinator.

Speaker 1 (01:35:33):
There's a lot that comes with it.

Speaker 3 (01:35:35):
And as much as I am for continuity and all
of those things, you also want to make sure that
you got the right guy. You have the right leader
in the room, because that leadership piece is probably more
important than the x'es and o's. Can you handle all
of the things that come along with it.

Speaker 1 (01:35:51):
Can you lead the group?

Speaker 3 (01:35:52):
Can you get them to respond to what it is
that you're asking them to do? Conuity doesn't always guarantee that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:58):
All right, Luana Rumo. I remember when he coached high
school football in Staten Island. He was a defensive coach
for the defensive coordinator for the Cincinnati Bengals, and really
and truly I think he may have been the air
apparent if Zach Taylor was going to go, and people
are right now they're saying that Zach Taylor's on the
hot seat. I don't think that's going to happen, because
you know, Dave Shuler stayed and I could have won

(01:36:20):
more games in Dave Shuler. So Mike Brown doesn't five coaches.
That was embarrassing, it really was. And he was a
good guy, Dave, but he's better off in the restaurant business.
So yeah, Liu on a room went out of defensive
coordinator for Indianapolis Colts. And the key that lou has
going for him, I mean the fact that or the
pressure he's got going for him. They got some defensive
defensive deficiencies obviously in the Indianapolis, but they really and

(01:36:44):
truly need to get a strong defense because the quarterback
situation is the biggest question mark that team as so defensively,
they got to make up for the questions on offense.

Speaker 1 (01:36:54):
I think we seem what we say because I thought
I heard myself.

Speaker 2 (01:37:00):
Who he has to make up the blue mount of
Roouma is defensive coordinator.

Speaker 1 (01:37:03):
Of this defense.

Speaker 3 (01:37:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the defense has to make up for
what they have on offense. And here's the thing about
lou ennim Uruma, drastic departure from what they had previously
on defense with Gus Bradley those guys. He comes over,
he brings more complexity, more variety. Can his guys pick
it up, that'd be the thing. And he has to
learn quickly what they can and what they can't do

(01:37:25):
when it comes to overloading their brains with the different
switches and alignments.

Speaker 1 (01:37:28):
And those things. That's it. He is really good.

Speaker 3 (01:37:31):
Didn't get enough credit for the job that he did
in Cincinnati. He should finally get the respect that he
deserves in Indy because he's gonna help this defense, help
this team win more games than they should.

Speaker 2 (01:37:42):
Okay, you're a Jacksonville jadge Anthony Keppanelli. And I didn't
know much about him because he was hired late. Any
reason why he was hired so late in Jacksonville? And
what has he gotta do? Because the only thing I
read about this guy is that the players say, this
guy is like an intense guy with high energy.

Speaker 3 (01:37:59):
Yeah, high energy fireball type. He's done a good job
of kind of expanding what they were building upon previously.
They were late in the process because all of the
things that happened in Jacksonville was late. Remember it took
them a while for Trent balk and you get out
the building that was holding them up when it came
to getting a head coach, and without a head coach,
can't hire a decoordinator, so it took a while. But

(01:38:20):
he's done a really good job thus far. We won't
know what it's really going to be like until they
start playing real games, but I can tell you the
feedback that I've gotten from inside the building is look
very very favorable, very positive. Everything kind of matches up
in terms of the player's minds, and now it's about
can the players play like It's one thing they always
say good things about the coaches ahead of time, but

(01:38:42):
when we get into the thick of it where.

Speaker 1 (01:38:43):
They continue to say those same things and believe.

Speaker 2 (01:38:46):
All right, we get seven out of the eleven, which
isn't bad. With your permission, maybe we'll continue this next
week and maybe we'll move over to any offensive side
with the coaches. What do you think?

Speaker 1 (01:38:54):
Yeah, that's my mother good, all good.

Speaker 2 (01:38:57):
You're a good man. You're a good man.

Speaker 1 (01:38:58):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:38:58):
He's Bucket Brooks. I'm Andy Furman and of course, you
get him at Bucky Brooks on X and Andy Furman
FSR eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven
seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine the Blame Game,
and we may have Mike North join the Blame Game
as well, because Mike North is coming up right around
the corner. All right, So one of the all time
greats in this business joins you next, all right, the

(01:39:22):
Hall of Famer Mike North will join us momentarily. He's
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(01:39:45):
you'll see today's show posted right after we get after
the air, we're live from the Fox Sports Radio studios,
and here he is joining us, the Hall of Famer,
my former co host on the morning show on Fox
Sports Radio, Mike North. How are you, Mike? Say hi
to Bucky Brooks.

Speaker 6 (01:40:00):
Yes, Bucky. First of all, hello to you, my friend,
and also to you. And it's been a long time,
my friend. You still got the energy. You guys got
to be rolling right now. A lot of stuff going on,
ready to go.

Speaker 2 (01:40:11):
Well, we want to congratulate you. You want a bigger war.
But I have no idea what the name of it
was in Chicago, had a big dinner for you. What
was that all about anyway?

Speaker 6 (01:40:19):
Well that was from Premiere, I mean the company of
Fox Sports Radio, which Jason Barrett, the Barrett Media came
up with. They were coming to Chicago with the convention,
and they said, who are we going to give the
Lifetime Achievement Award to? And you know what, I'm an
outsider is you know, Andy, I was never embraced by

(01:40:40):
inner more type management type of people.

Speaker 2 (01:40:43):
So I wonder why. I wonder why they called me.

Speaker 6 (01:40:47):
It was a complete utter surprise. I thought it was
a prank call. I said, Andy, get off the phone.
I got things to do. And then no, he said, no,
this is for real. And it was a great event.
I sold out a lot of great people. A lot
of folks came in from around the country because Bruce
Gilbert was also wantored and Danny Parkins from Half That's One.

(01:41:09):
So it was it was a great time. And you
know what, after thirty four years, I guess they had
nowhere else to go, so they gave it to me.

Speaker 2 (01:41:15):
I guess. So I know that, buckyhead lest you wants
to talk you for a second.

Speaker 1 (01:41:20):
Bucky, I am great. Mike.

Speaker 3 (01:41:23):
Look, I got to ask you because I know you
worked with a long time with Andy Firmer.

Speaker 1 (01:41:26):
You got to give me a Andy Firman story.

Speaker 3 (01:41:28):
You got to give me a story because we've been
working together for a few years. But I know you
know where some of the balls are buried. Let me
know something about Andy that I didn't know going into this.

Speaker 6 (01:41:37):
It's the first time. I mean, I remember, my favorite
story is Andy. They tell me, Bruce Gilbert says, you're
going to be working with Andy Furman. We want you
to work in the mornings with Jonas Knox and Andy.
I go, okay, I just want to be the second guy.
I don't want to be in charge, nothing like that.
Letting Andy run the show, keep it the way it is.
Because I replaced the guy that was, you know, in

(01:41:59):
the second chair. And so I get a call that
evening the day I think the night before, if I'm
not mistaken, and it's Andy and he says to me, hey, listen, Mike,
how are you. I go, good, Andy, and looking forward
to it. I'm excited everything else. He goes, good, listen,
I meet your email. I'm going to send you the

(01:42:19):
script for the show. And I said, no, you're not.
You're not sending me the script for the show. He goes,
what do you mean. I says, because I don't do that.
I says. Sports radio was designed to be on the
street corner. Whatever you want to talk about, I'll be
ready to talk about okay, whether you want to talk hockey,
you want to talk baseball, well, do you want to

(01:42:40):
talk football, you want to talk anything. And that's the
way we did the show. I never got a script
from Andy. Andy was would just run to start the show,
and I think Andy would Telly. I think, I don't think.
I don't think. I was stumped too often. Andy came
up with some good stuff. But we had a lot
of fun. I think the one thing, Bucky that I

(01:43:00):
see that we did that then I had fun with Andy.
You laughed, you had like you're laughing now, while we're talking.
And I don't see that as much anymore as in
people as I used to. It's more serious now, especially
the TV talkers and stuff like that. And it was
all about levity with us for the most part. I mean,

(01:43:22):
we had a horse that galloped through the studio. You
know you heard day. I mean, we just did really
off the wall things. We had a good time, and
I had as much fun with Andy and their crew
and working at Box for six years as I've had
anywhere else.

Speaker 2 (01:43:37):
I got a better story than that book. Are you ready?
Oh yeah, I got a better story. And you got
to go nuts. You remember this one? We had a
guest on our show, Jim Larra Nagum. He was the
basketball coach at University of Miami of Florida. Hey, I
get on the phone and with him talk and say, hey, Jimmy,
it's unbelievable. I don't know why Italian's always become great
basketball coaches, Rick Patino, John Calipari. And then he know

(01:44:02):
what he says to me, You know you're right, but
I'm not Italian. It was unbelievable. I don't remember that one.

Speaker 6 (01:44:10):
I remember that exactly. I also remember a lot of
people hanging Uptonio.

Speaker 2 (01:44:17):
Michigan State football coach hung up on us.

Speaker 6 (01:44:20):
Yeah, I mean there was a lot of guys Rick
petin Ar. You know, people got mad, e bent out
of shape. When when I when he got in all
that trouble. I mean, it's amazing to me. I mean
Rick Patino was one of my favorite coaches of all time.
But I mean you want to talk about a checkered pass.
I mean we were talking about him at Louisville when
they had the brothel going over there. So I mean

(01:44:42):
it was that he survived that. And I was at
Saint Johnson. He's and he's doing a great job, right right.

Speaker 2 (01:44:49):
Yeah, I want to ask your opinion, and you have
an opinion everything. What's your take on the n I
l now in college?

Speaker 6 (01:44:56):
Well, if you remember, I was against it. In fact,
I had discussion on Twitter with Jay Billis and Stan Barrett,
both were at ESPN, and I said, you know, California
is burning right now, and you're worried about athletes getting
paid this and that. I asked Jay Billis, how you
never got paid? You went to Duke and now you're

(01:45:16):
forty million dollars richer. I mean you survived off the
scholarships and you know, you didn't starve and everything else,
but they were dug in on the mill. I said,
it's going to be a mess. The halves are going
to get it. It's not going to be equally distributed.
Stan Burrett ended up blocking me because I had a
difference of opinion. Yeah, well he's gone from there now,

(01:45:37):
but he blocked me and because I had a difference
of opinion on it, and I turned out to be right.
It's a mess. It's ridiculous. You saw coaches. You see
coaches now more babysitters than they are coaches. Yeah, they're
all leaving there. Well save them left. I mean, so
I knew that would be a mess. I knew Neil

(01:45:59):
was the to be a disaster, and I still think
it's a disaster. I mean, when you got a guy,
one guy driving a Rolls Royce, you know, banking millions,
and then you got another guy who's got a gift
certificate who blocks formed the Jersey Mics, that's not right.
I think that it was supposed to be equal pay
for everybody, but it's not. Dursey Anders made a ton

(01:46:21):
of doll drove around in an extensive garden his linemen.
We're getting a gift certificates to Jersey, Mikes or or
some other thing.

Speaker 2 (01:46:30):
Go ahead, Buck, Mike, No none.

Speaker 3 (01:46:35):
I want to go on because off of that, because
you're a fixedure in Chicago. Just give me the state
of Chicago sports. I know the Cubs are rolling, they
have a guy from La pc PCA who's doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:46:46):
But what about the White Sox. How do you feel
about the Bears and the Bulls? Like, what is it?
What give me the state of Chicago's force?

Speaker 6 (01:46:53):
Well, I got a lot of scars, Bucky. You know that.
You're a former NFL guy. You know about the Bears. Okay, uh,
they did they We've had two cores, We've had maybe
one or two good quarterbacks in like sixty years. The
Bears right now are a team that are four plus
four to twenty five to win their division. That's a
long way away. Can they surprise people? I'm at the

(01:47:15):
deal now, show me. I've been hearing for the last seven, eight,
nine years. This guy's going to get it done. Justin
Fields is going to get it done. Caleb Williams is
going to get it done. We'll find out Ben Johnson selling,
We'll pick it right now, But he's going to walk
into a bus saw. They play in the worst stadium
in football. It's the hardest stadium to get to. They've

(01:47:35):
been dangling for a new stadium for two three years.
They've mishandled that situation. They got a site that's as
big as LA site Sofi Stadium where Arlington Park Racetrack
used to be Andy you're familiar ration. It's bigger than Sofy.
So we're waiting to move there. As far as the
Cubs are concerned. What a trade. I mean, we created

(01:47:56):
Hobby Bias for a PCA and he's right now number
two in the MVP voting, which you know we were hoping,
you know, after Bellinger left that you know we're dead now.
I mean, this kid, PCA is probably going to get
fifteen sixteen homers, driving fifty RBIs maybe catch everything in
the upfield. We never thought he'd be this juggernaut right now.

(01:48:18):
And I think he can be the MVP of the
National League. I know that show A and I know
that you know he sits on his rear end. He's
a bad gambler, but he can play baseball. I'll tell
you that right now, and I'll tell you are we
going to give a DH another MVP A are we
going to get maybe a guy like PCA who might

(01:48:39):
end up with thirty five homers ninety RBIs one hundred
runs scored, catching everything in psych He's a five tool
player who basically I think if he plays fifteen sixteen
years at this level, could be a Hall of Famer someday.
Because there was a guy named Lou Brock that played
for the Cubs for four years. He hit two forty
We traded them to the Cardinals for Ernie Brochioso or

(01:49:02):
on picture, but he never really got going as far
as homers. He only had one hundred and forty nine.
He wasn't as good defensively, he was maybe not as
staff as PCA. So we're very high on the Cubs
right now. They've got a very big lead right now,
but no leads safe because you know, they're pictures. We
have two main pictures out, but we're feeling good about them.

(01:49:23):
The Sox stink, the Black Crocks stink, and the bull stink.
So I think I covered everything right now.

Speaker 2 (01:49:29):
There's no doubt about that. You know this Mike Northers,
I guess, and he's a Hall of Famer, A legend
in the radio business, no doubt about that. But you know,
Bucky played for University of North Carolina. They got a
new football coach my name of Bill Belichick. What do
you think the story's going on there with his girlfriend
and whatever's going on. How's he going to do? How's
Bill going to do in North Carolina.

Speaker 6 (01:49:49):
I think it's interesting. I think it's going to be
It's crazy. He was late birth light the other day.
They showed him. He's that guy who was sweating. He
was running, you know, and I know this you about
his I'm getting close to his age now. I know
he can't keep up with her. You know, she was
running through the airport and everything else. I love Bill Belichick.
I love what he did. I hope everything works out.

(01:50:12):
Mike Robardi's over there right now. I think it's brought
new interest. I want to dass Bucky when he was
at North Carolina. I think that the car heels in
that year you were there, what ninety one, Buckee ninety
two or something like that. In ninety three three, I

(01:50:34):
think Dean Smith was starting to wind down at that time.
If I'm not mistaken, I don't think I think you
guys got eating a second round for you guys for
the football players, were you second class citizens or did
Lawrence Taylor and maybe change all that. I gotta believe
North Carolina basketball was one and you guys were number two?

(01:50:56):
And what was that like? And were you still revered
on campus most college football teams.

Speaker 1 (01:51:03):
No, definitely second class citizenship.

Speaker 3 (01:51:05):
When it came to the basketball team, everything was always
about the basketball team, but it was still you still
got enough adulation in those things. But this place is
always going to be about the basketball team. The university basically, like, uh,
it's anonymous with UNC basketball, So I get that part
of it. But they have a chance to kind of

(01:51:26):
stem the tide, change the tide a little bit. Belichick
has down some cool things to up the profile. But yeah,
there were eyes on the program now than ever. We'll
see what it looks like when the product hits the
field up.

Speaker 6 (01:51:37):
Yeah, you are the.

Speaker 2 (01:51:38):
Eyes on the program or the eyes on Jordan. That's
what I want to know. Where the eyes are you
talking about?

Speaker 1 (01:51:43):
Michael Jordan? Jordan and his girlfriend.

Speaker 6 (01:51:49):
Yeah, I'll tell you this. I think that it's almost
like a Deonce Anders type of situation. Everybody is anxious
to see what happens. It's not as lambuoyant, it's not
as uh you know, I mean, but it was a
crazy situation in Colorado. Who's paying attention to Colorado football
until you know, uh, Deon Sanders got there. I mean,

(01:52:09):
so when he got there, he changed things. Of course,
he brought iyes to the to the stadium and to
the he sold out the game. So, you know, I
think do'll Bellichick on with Bucky on this Andy. I
think it's going to be curiosity. I think that the
first three four games are going to be important for him.
But there's no no doubt. It's a different situation and

(01:52:31):
he brought a lot of cacher to that program. We'll
see if it works out.

Speaker 2 (01:52:35):
Go ahead, Buck, chile him a little bit and ask
what of he things about women's sports.

Speaker 3 (01:52:41):
Oh my gosh, he must have, he must have, he
must have a strong take. Okay, so we're going to
ask earlier. Yeah, so, so, so give me your take
on the state of w n b A with Caitlin
Clark being the featured player of the sport.

Speaker 6 (01:52:54):
Well, first of all, you know what, Caitlin Colark is
the greatest woman's basketball player I ever saw. I've seen
them all. I saw, I saw him all I saw him,
from and Drysdale to Cheryl Miller, Nancy Lieberman, I mean,
all the great players from the past, and there's nobody.

(01:53:15):
I mean, she's got Steph Curry Range. She's a tough
She's a tough little nut, she really is. She gets
added around. I still don't think her whole team sticks
up for you know, you got the one girl. After
a year and a half, somebody finally stood up with
her to protect her, and everybody's making a big deal
of it. I'd like to see more covalescing with the

(01:53:36):
rest of the team. But the WNBA is all about
Caitlin Clark. The only time I will watch it is
when she's on the Sky Chicago. I mean, it's the truth.
They've lost fifty percent of their viewership when Caitlyn Clark
was hurt. So you know, hopefully things will get better

(01:53:57):
for her. She's the golden goose there. I don't know
what you'd even nuts with that, So you know, hopefully
everybody will. But the people seem to enjoy on all
of it. All the eyes are on the WNBA, not
only because of Caitlin Clark because of the feistiness of
the women. And I do think the refs need to
be a little bit bigger. I don't know if they
need to bring in more male reps, but the referees

(01:54:19):
that were in that game were female the other night
and album were like five' four and these women are.
Big these women are bigg and they lost control of the.
Game so we'll see what.

Speaker 2 (01:54:28):
Happens, mike let me ask you a. Question we got
a we got a little game we play called The Blame.
Game would you want to hang around and play the
blame game with?

Speaker 6 (01:54:36):
Us with you two? Guys are you kidding? Me? Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (01:54:40):
OH i stay, There, okay The Blame game coming up
next With Mike north On Fox Sports. Radio all, right
the blame came coming right. Up he Is Bucky brooks
And Andy ferman our special Guest Mike north right here
about eleven minutes before the top of the, hour at
the top of the, hour which would be nine am
on The East Coast countdown With brian, No Jeff, schwartz
And Bill. Krakenberger so stay tuned for that away live
from The Fox Bust radio. Studios we got The Blame.

(01:55:02):
Game let's play you ruin. Me it's all your. Fault,
no it's your faults.

Speaker 1 (01:55:08):
In all your.

Speaker 2 (01:55:09):
Fault maybe it's everyone's, fault the. Liar that's why there's
the blame game. Game let's figure out who to, Blame, Hi,
patty let's play the blame game With Mike north And
bucket broke to dow it all?

Speaker 5 (01:55:25):
Right all, right so with the start of the blame,
GAME i got one for, everybody. Guys so with that,
said earlier this, WEEK uh fabled running Back Adrian pearson
for The Minnesota. Vikings uh was that a poker competition
or a, tournament it would, Seem and, well it went
a little.

Speaker 6 (01:55:44):
South.

Speaker 5 (01:55:44):
Guys he got into a big fight with a guy
over a poker tournament and just you, know insanity.

Speaker 1 (01:55:50):
Ensues who do you? Blame and BEFORE i say who
do you?

Speaker 5 (01:55:53):
Blame Mike, north you get to go, first since you
are our beloved guess you're going, First Mike, North who
do you? Blame?

Speaker 6 (01:56:00):
WELL i blame four. GUYS i blamed four. GUYS i
blamed the, DEALER i blamed the guy that let those guys,
in AND i guess the two guys that got into the.
Fight but, seriously over hand of poker that got. SERIOUS
i watched it And Adrian peterson got tagged a few
times by this. Guy i'm going to blame at the

(01:56:21):
end of the, day the celebrity that should know. Better
but he's been initie had issues. Before But i'm gonna
Blame Adrian, peterson, who by the, way was the much bigger.
Man but the other guy held his.

Speaker 1 (01:56:33):
OWN i don't Blame Adrian. Peterson, man he can't get
involved in anything like. That he's the one who has
everything to.

Speaker 3 (01:56:41):
Lose he has to be above, board like he just
has to let that. Go whatever the dispute, Was we
expect more from. Him he has to walk.

Speaker 2 (01:56:48):
Away Adrian peterson is a public. Figure he got to know,
better IF i will tell you as much Better tim
get in the fight with those bums that hit his
kid with a, stick all, Right that's All i'm. Saying
So i'm happy with.

Speaker 6 (01:56:59):
Right and people brought that up. Too people brought that
up that he got his come up and because he
had done the same thing with this. Kid but you know,
what it was interesting and nobody really wanted to break the.

Speaker 2 (01:57:12):
Fight, up, Right you're right about? That all? Right?

Speaker 5 (01:57:15):
Next all, Right, well speaking of keeping the fight. Going,
here The knicks are trying to keep the fight going
and trying to land a.

Speaker 2 (01:57:22):
Coach so who do you? Blame?

Speaker 4 (01:57:25):
Andy?

Speaker 2 (01:57:26):
Oh mike nor.

Speaker 1 (01:57:27):
Guess oh you know, What, Mike you.

Speaker 5 (01:57:29):
Get the privilege of going first every.

Speaker 2 (01:57:30):
Time, mike who do you?

Speaker 6 (01:57:31):
Blame it's a lot different than WHEN i was on
With andy all the. Time they got together after a tough.
Loss they got that far for the first time in.
DECADES i Blamed dolan in The New York nick. Management
they're not going to find a better coach Than. Tibbodo

(01:57:54):
they actually asked About Dandy. DONOVAN i mean they actually
asked About donovan bulls coach And, uh to be honest with,
you the bess turned them. Down AND i was playing
that he would, go but he's still not going to
be as good As. Tibodol as a reactionary, MOVE i
Blame dolan and The New York knicks.

Speaker 1 (01:58:13):
Management, look, YEAH i blame.

Speaker 3 (01:58:16):
Management like they thought they could get better and they're
gonna find out it's gonna be hard to. Match Tip
ofdeau would give, them and so it's on.

Speaker 1 (01:58:23):
Them they got.

Speaker 3 (01:58:24):
Greedy he took them to the championship round and they're not,
satisfied and so The knicks are the. Next they have
an overinflated ego where they think they're bigger than what they,
are so they give it they.

Speaker 2 (01:58:33):
DESERVE i Blame Leon rose of The. Knicks i'll tell you,
what But i'm really happy about. THIS i think everybody
in the league has banded together because they know The
tim's got a raw. Deal so The bucks turn them
down for their, Coach Houston rockets turned them, down The
bulls turn them. Down when The knicks inquired about their coaching,
Opportunities dallas turned them down. Too SO i think THAT
i think ownership of these ball clubs, say, Look tim's

(01:58:54):
got a row deal In New. York we're not gonna
let them get our coach boom and the.

Speaker 5 (01:58:58):
Deal all, Right, well, Guys so The Stanley cup ratings
were lower than The Four nations tournament for THE. Nhi
who do you, Blame, MIKE.

Speaker 6 (01:59:13):
I blame the. COVERAGE i blame the pregame, shows the postgame.
SHOWS i think hockey should be a lot. BETTER i
blame the. COMMISSIONER i guess you're only supposed to blame
one person, there but it's The florida. Hockey they expanded
back in the day when they shouldn't know whether they
had the original. Six they instead of expanding, slowly they

(01:59:34):
brought in six seven new teams and then now since
then they've expanded. MORE i know that then's gotten better,
worldwide but it's always going to be the fourth. Sport
The Florida panthers are a dominating. Team more people should
know about. Them but you're seeing the two sports that
were dominant back in the day hurting right. Now that
would be THE nba and that would be THE. NHL

(01:59:55):
i will Blame Gary bettman on an expansion for what's
happened to THE. Nhl hell and water, Coverage, yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:00:03):
Just too, much didn't dignant. Enough they didn't put it
on the proper. Pedals so that's why people aren't tuning.

Speaker 2 (02:00:07):
In it's, unfortunate and you, know quite, honestly nationalis themselves
and that's WHY i think The Four Nations tournament had
better ratings in. That but thank you so, Much stay
tuned for, Countdown have a great. Week, everybody see A
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