Andy Furman & Bucky Brooks talk Lane Kiffin's looming decision, Shedeur Sanders' big day, Week 12 BIGGEST matchups and MORE!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Oh it was cupcake Day in college football. We'll explain
that in just a minute. Good morning, everybody, This is it.
This is Fox Football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. He's
Bucky Brooks and Andy Furman and we're brodcasting live from
the Fox Sports Radio studios. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, And here
he is my partner, my friend. He played in the NFL.
He knows what he's talking about, mount like the guy
who's talking right now. Welcome my friend Bucky Brooks. How

(00:29):
are you.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
I'm good, I'm good, I'm good. What's going on? Andy?

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Everything is wonderful, so much to talk about.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
By the way, we have asked Bucky at the end
of this hour, so if you have any good questions
for Bucky Brooks at Bucky Brooks had Andy Furman FSR.
And we welcome again our good friend Brandon Deutsch is
here for Bree.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Brandon, how are you? I know you can't talk.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
That much you got that laryngitis, but we're glad to
have you with us.

Speaker 4 (00:51):
All right, Yeah, thanks for having me fell in for Bree.
Tough task, love you, We love you.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Okay, here we go Bucky, I got it.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
I got a couple of odds, and I want to
throw at you right now. And you know, I live
in the greater Cincinnati area and I never thought in
my entire life i'd see something like this. They had
a high school football game and they moved it from
a local high school stadium to pay Court stadium when
the Bengals played this this Friday night in the rain,
Saint Xavier High School of Cincinnati played Elder High School, undefeated.

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Elder High School in Cincinnati. Almost twenty three thousand people
came to that game. Now, I lived in Brooklyn, New York.
Little Lafayette High School played football ten o'clock on Saturday mornings.
I don't think we had twenty two twenty three thousand
people in my three years at Lafayette High School, entire
three years, twenty three. I mean, is this something? Are

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you accustomed to games like this? Crowds like that? I
can't believe it. It was amazing.

Speaker 5 (01:48):
Well, it sounds like it was a headliner matchup. And
in southern California you will get some of those matchups.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Where you get twenty thousand people anytime you match up.

Speaker 5 (01:57):
Modern day in Saint John Bosco two teams SOCl powers
but also national powers. You can draw that kind of crowd,
But to get twenty three thousand in the Bengals Stadium
on a Friday night. It's funny because I heard about
that because I think which seemed the team to start
with the e Are they purple?

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Elder? Elder High school Elder.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
So the coach from Louisville, Pat Kelsey, is an Elder great,
and he talked about bleeding purple, and he's putting that
out there in the presser, So it was a big deal.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
I knew it was a big deal. I don't know
who went, but I knew it was a big deal.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Saint Xavier won a beat Elde.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Elder was undefeated at the time, and Pat Kelsey, you're right,
he went to Elder and that night, the same evening,
University of Cincinnati was playing Louisville in Cincinnati.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
I mean it was It was one of those.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Weekends in the area that happens maybe once every five, six,
seven years. They had Cincinnati playing Louisville and basketball, they
had Elder playing Saint E'sian football. That was Friday night.
Also Xavier was playing Georgia and basketball, so you got.
Cincinnati lost to Louisville, Xavier lost to Georgia, and yesterday
Cincinnati lost to Brigham Young. So the only saving grace

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would be today if the Bengals could beat the Patriots,
which I don't think that's gonna happen. So it's gonna
be a last weekend in sports in this area. This
is only just saying. I mean, I'm happy we have sports.
I'm happy they hear, but come on, give me a break. Comeing,
get like a winner here. It's amazing, it's depressing. Now,
now I got another bit of information I want to
throw with you. I'm reading about this Lane Kiffin thing.

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I'm talking about the grand standing of Lane Kiffin. All Right,
the Mississippi football fans and Florida and LSU, all these people,
they're gonna have to wait now, like another seven eight
days to find out if Lane Kiffin is gonna coach
after this year at Ole Miss or not. The old
miss Athletic directors said that the announceer is going to
come after his rebels played Mississippi State and that Egg
Bowl on November the twenty eighth. Okay, now he's rumored

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to go LSU. He may go to Florida. I don't
get it, don't. I mean, this doesn't do any good
for anybody, now, for the school, not for the administration
of a season tickets, not for recruits, and for the
players that are playing for Ole Miss, who may very
well follow him either to LSU and Florida. Why in
the hell well is he grand standing?

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Now? Penn State's looking for a coach.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
I don't hear Penn State ranting and raving about the
possibilities of coaches coming to Penn State.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
But why is Lane Kifflin doing this? Number one and
number two?

Speaker 2 (04:11):
What in the heck has lank Kifflin really ever accomplished
as a coach? Okay, I understand that he's something like
a fifty four and twenty record at Old Miss. He's
ten and one this year. I mean, he's a coach,
all right. Father, what's the deal with this grand standing?
It's like where he's gonna go? Does anybody really care?
Tell me that the upside of this bucket, Brooks. I

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don't think there is an upside for the school or
for even him.

Speaker 5 (04:37):
I mean, I don't know if An needs the upside
for him, because my natural thought is if he was
going to stay at Old Miss. He would just say
I'm staying at Old Miss, And you can do that
at any point. To push this off is in a
way like you're delaying the inevitable.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
You're trying to get the.

Speaker 5 (04:53):
Fans to not be disappointed or to still come out
to the egg Ball. You're trying to get your team
to still play at a high level, even so they
know their coach is no longer going to be there.
To me, I would just rather be cutting the list,
cut and dry. Whatever it is. Either you're coming or
you stay. If you're not here, you got to figure
it out. But I understand the dilemma that it puts

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the ole Miss adn. He wants this team to take
advantage of their spot. They're in the college football playoff,
is one of the best years in their history.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
You want to finish it off the right way. But
you have a.

Speaker 5 (05:25):
Coach who is caught up and caught up in a
scene where a ninety million dollar offers on the table
from LSU and and that could be hard to turn
down no matter how loyal you are to your program.
Ninety million dollars there's a lot of money to walk
away from.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
I just it just bothers me that it's all about
lank Kifthyn more so than the school. And right now
the players are debating. I mean, could I go with
him to LSU? Cand I go with him to Florida?
I mean, and again, I think Penn State's doing it
the right way. I don't think it was a good
move get anywhere to James Franklin, especially the way they
did it and so early in this. But the point
is this, they're doing it in a professional business like manner.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
You know.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
I have no idea who they're interviewing. There's some rumors
out there, but it'll happen to'll hire the coach and.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
The way they go.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
But as far as lang Kiffin is concerned, he's almost
bigger than the school itself. And I never met the guy,
but I just don't like the way he's handling things.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
I think it's wrong. I really do.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
And if he has an agent or an attorney, the
guys who want to tell him say, look back off
a little bit, you know, really and truly, I mean
back off it' stop playing one against the other.

Speaker 6 (06:29):
No.

Speaker 5 (06:29):
I think if you're the agent, the agent, you want this,
You want to create a situation where you have leverage.
Perfect world for an agent is have two or more
teams vying for your services, drives the price up, becomes
a bit of a bidding war. All of that stuff
is good for the client and for future clients to
know that he's able to drum up that kind of entest.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
So the chaos.

Speaker 5 (06:51):
Plays to the favor of the agent. It just makes
it kind of silly when you think about what you
have on the line. You have a team that is
to go to the playoff, and you're over here messing
around with other jobs and that stuff.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
You know, if I was a wagering man, and I'm not,
and ninety nine percent of the sports talk shows but
guy's beyond the microphone only talk about wagers, and thank goodness,
you don't do that because you can't. You work in
the NFL. Yeah, it doesn't do anything. You want to
bike a bet, go bick up bet. I'm not going
to tell you what to do. But I think that
we need to talk about sports and people and people
in sports. But if I was a betting man, I'd
say he's going to stay at Ole, miss.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
I really do.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
I think he's going to stay there.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
I think he's doing this to let Old Miss, you know,
to make them feel like, hey, if you really want
me to pony up a little bit more money maybe,
or whatever it may be. I think there's a lot
less pressured at Old Miss than LSU or Florida, especially LSU.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah, I mean I agree that.

Speaker 5 (07:41):
I would say, and I've said this to my friends,
why would you leave Old Miss? You've had three ten
win seasons, You're the most decorated coach in franchise history.
So you're part of a statue program, meaning they're going
to make a statue for you in your honor based
on the work that you've done. Why would you go
under pressure cooker of Florida and LSU? Not even so

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much the pressure cooker, but the dysfunctional mess that both
of those programs are. Yes, they have more money, and
more money you can get better players. I just think
he's done such a great job there.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Why would you leave? But only he knows what his
family wants is just a crazy situation.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
To me, I'm with you there. We'll leave that alone. Now.
We aim to please on this show every Sunday.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
And there are some people I gotta believe that they
love college football they love the NFL and they love
I guess, the entire entertainment package that's involved, especially with
college football, the pomping circumstance, the cheerleaders, the band, or
whatever it may be, the entertainment factor.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
So we're here to please.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Okay, and I found the story here that's going to
really please to people that maybe are not so gung
ho and football, but maybe they go to the game
because this son or daughter is a member of the
marching band or a cheerleader or whatever it may be. Okay,
there's a man who had a lifelong goal. His name
is Ken Brussard, sixty six years of age, and his
lifelong goal and he made it happen.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
He wanted to be a member of the LSU band.
He did. So what did he do?

Speaker 2 (09:10):
He went on Amazon. He bought a tuba because for
three thousand dollars, by the way, and he talked to
the band director, said, look, you're gonna have to really
learn how to march, stay in shape, and you know,
we have a boatload of trumpet players, but there might
be an opening on the tuba section.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
So she bought a tuba for three.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Thousand, practiced, and you know what, he is a member
now of the LSU band at the age of sixty
six years of age.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
I love that. What a great story, a dream come true.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
So we try to aim to please for those who
may not be hardcore football fans, but they like the
entire football package on a Saturday at the college football game.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
How do you like that?

Speaker 1 (09:47):
I mean, look, this's a nice story. I've actually seen it.

Speaker 5 (09:49):
I mean, who says that you can't continue to have
dreams as you get older.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
He wanted to be in the band, He worked his
way up, made his way into it. So good for him.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
I love that good story.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Now, I guess the game of the day yesterday I
called this kind of a cupcaked in college football, not
really many big games, but a couple of surprises as well.
But this Oregon game, I think that was the game
of the day. And when I saw Malige Benson and
that eighty five yard punt return for Oregon beating up
on an USC forty two twenty seven, the first thing
that came to my mind, you know what, it was

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the tire rat play the day. I don't know why
my mind is crazy. I'm great and I think it is.
That's what Brandon said, is going to be that. Well,
hold on for that later on. But I was surprised
with Oregon being beat up so much, with their backup
offensive lineman and the injury factor.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
I was kind of happy.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Oregon one number one. It was a home game, so
I like when the home team wins. But more than that,
I didn't like what the USC did two weeks ago
with that trick play. I thought that was a cheap move.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Oh you didn't like that? You didn't like h did
you like that?

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Do you think if you think?

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Ah? No, I mean I wasn't. I'm not great on that. Look.

Speaker 5 (10:56):
I don't like the Shenanigans like that, right, Like that's
clear deception and those things, trick plays and those things,
double passes versus.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
I get that.

Speaker 5 (11:04):
The jersey number thing, it's a little weird to me that. Yeah,
I wasn't a big fan. Yeah, I wasn't being fan.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
How impressed were you with Oregon? I mean, I think
they're they're good, But I do aw an apology right
now because I looked at organ early on. I thought
they were strong. I mean, obviously Indiana beat them, and
I kind of took a couple of pot shots several
weeks ago with Notre Dame. I'm telling you, right now,
Notre Dame looks like a title contender. And that's one
of the few teams that I've seen really go up

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to charge improve week by week by week.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
They could have scored one hundred points.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yesterday they won seventy to seven over Syracuse and I'm
telling you, honestly, they could have scored one hundred if
they wanted to.

Speaker 5 (11:45):
Yeah, I will say this about Marcus Freeman, one of
the best coaches in football. He does a great job
of getting his team to improve over the course of
the season. The last two years, we have seen his
team play their best football down the stretch, and a
lot of the assessments that people make about the team

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are based on those early season failures. Right, So they
lost the text seeing them in a very tight game,
they haven't played well, people say they haven't beat anybody,
what are they doing? They also lost in Miami, so
everyone is on them. But when you watch them play,
particularly now, man, they look like a well or machine,
and so people are gonna have issues with them being

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in the playoff and those things, But if you watch
they're definitely one of the top twelve teams in the country,
and I can't wait to see what they have an
opportunity to do once they get into the.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Postseason, right and if you're a fan of Miami or Florida,
you're gonna start ranting and raving and say, hey, wait
a minute, we beat Notre Dame, we beat them, and
this Miami team I still like them. I just don't
know what team shows up on any given Saturday. And
yesterday it was the Carson Beck that was really the
good Carson Beck the quarterback. Sometimes it's not the good

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Carson Beach. But yesterday they beat up on Virginia Tech
thirty four to seventeen. I think he has something like
three hundred and twenty yards and four touchdowns, So honestly,
I think that Miami has has a chance to do
some damage. But he has thrown seven touchdowns without an
interception over his last two games, so maybe he's back
on track right now. I think that Miami is gonna

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be one of those sleeper teams that you just don't
know on what day they're gonna come to play.

Speaker 5 (13:22):
I mean, yeah, that's I mean, that's the Miami team.
You just you just never know what you're gonna get
with them. And that can be a challenge because as
a coach, you know the one thing that you like
to know.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
People talk about high ceilings and high floors.

Speaker 5 (13:34):
Well, the high floor is the bottom of what you're
gonna play, the minimum effort, the minimum production or performers
that you're gonna get.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
It's easy to build around that. Miami doesn't give you that.

Speaker 5 (13:43):
They are just these fluctuations where the ceiling is high,
but the flow is lower the floor. The floor is low.
It's hard for Mario crystal Ball to kind of figure
out what he has in that team because he never
knows what's gonna show up on a week to week basis.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Right, It's amazing.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Now here's a situation where I think, I think I
have the excuse why they lost.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
I'm talking about Georgia Tech.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Okay, they had a chance maybe to get to the
ACC Championship game, maybe for the first time at about
eleven years. They lose at home to pitt forty two
to twenty eight. And maybe just maybe because of the
rumors circulating about that coach Brent Kee as a possibility
to go to Penn State. Could that be a factor.
I don't know, but Pitt came out to that game firing.

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They were leading twenty eight nothing on that ball game,
and all of a sudden, Georgia Tech is like saying,
what's going on here? I'm shocked, And you know, Pitt's
one of those teams you just again a little bit
like Miami. Not as good as Miami, but on a
week to week basis, you just don't know what you're
gonna get with Pitt.

Speaker 5 (14:43):
Yeah, I think there's a lot to that. Like, you know,
so you watch Pitt. Pitt got clobberd by Notre Dame
the week before because there was a deal with Paton
Rdozi and Marcus Freeman. But they get better from that,
and then they play a tough Georgia Tech team, a
team that has the best teams in the country all year,
and they throttle them.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
College football is great, man, because you just don't know.

Speaker 5 (15:06):
You see the craziest and wildest things take place weekly,
which is why you continue to come back and tune in.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yeah, you know what, I'm almost to the fact now
that I enjoy college football. I'm gonna say better than
the NFL, but it's not as predictable as the NFL.
The NFL is somewhat predictable. Every once in a while
you get, you know, a shocker, but not often really. Now,
yesterday Vanderbilt they tied a record with their program with

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their ninth win. As the commrad has beat up on
Kentucky forty five seventeen, I'm saying to myself.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
How does that happen?

Speaker 2 (15:38):
How could the school like Kentucky be so strong, so
powerful in basketball and so bad in football?

Speaker 3 (15:44):
You know, And I've heard the excuses over the years.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
The years, Well, you know, Kentucky is the northernmost team
in the SEC, and kids don't want to play.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
That's bull.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Kids go to Ohio States, it's north. Kids go to Michigan,
it's north. So I don't get it. They used to
and Wisconsin used to be good and that's pretty north too.
So what's the deal with with Kentucky? Why can't they
turn it around? Forty five seventeen? And the coach is
not gonna stoops, is not gonna go anywhere because I
don't think they got the money to buy them out.

Speaker 5 (16:11):
Yeah, Kentucky's a I wouldn't say it's a weird one,
but I think they're pecking order and the SEC is
always going to be one that's cyclical, meaning they kind
of strike me as Iowa in the Big Ten, like
Iowa can be good, but on most years, Iowa's going
to be an eight to ten win team, and then

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when it all comes together, you'll see them have a
great eleven twelve win team, but it goes back and
then they'll go back to being an eight win ten.
Kentucky to me, has that kind of potential because Stoops
has to max up everything that he has to get
it done, and there's never a team that they're going
to face where they can roll up, put the ball
down and say that we have more talent than the
other team, so we know we're just gonna cruise the victory.

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That has to be tough for them because every week
you need your best player and your role players to
bring their a game. And now they've run up against
a Vanderbilt team that's really good. Clark Lee has those
guys rolling at least this year, because they have a
quarterback in Diego Pavia who's outstanding. Yeah, but Kentucky is
a mystery simply because they have to bring everything and

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all their performances have to be at an a level
for the new win each week.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Right, I got to go back locally here Cincinnati. You know,
I feel for coach Scott Sideafield. Teams started out like
seven and one. Now they've lost their last three and
they lost to Brigham Young. And look, they could hold
their heads up somewhat high because they lost to a
pretty good Brigham Young team. But still in all the
way they lost twenty six to fourteen. A couple of
interceptions they started the second half. The quarterback just put

(17:48):
torses in interception and Brigham Young scores that breaking Young
team is tough.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
They're strong.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Really, I mean, you know, it's kind of sad because
a lot of these teams you don't see that often.
And they came to town yesterday. It was a big dance Cincinnat.
They had a big noon on Fox TV yesterday. The
game was on nationally last night. The Cougars right now
at ten and one, seven and one of the Big twelve.
And honestly, if Cincinnati would have won last night, with
a little help by Utah losing, which they didn't, they

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could have been a chance at Cincinnati going to the
championship game in the conference.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
But it's not gonna happen. And now I.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Worry about Scott Sadafield in his future at Cincinnati because
I like the guy.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
I think he's a good guy.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
I never played for him, I never played football, but
I would think he's a decent coach and he knows
what he's doing, and I think he's kind of turned
it around a little bit.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
But you know, I hope they keep him. I really do.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (18:36):
I mean, look, I think he's done a really good job.
I think for Cincinnati is very similar. You know, they
got a punch above their way to compete with the
big voys. People were sleeping on BYU in terms of
coming in because b where you lost a game earlier.
But they've been kind of waylaying teams with their physicality
and toughness all year. So I can understand being upset.

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I can understand why the fan base is disappointed because
you just had, like Luke Fickele have a tremendus amount
of six there where they were up to number two
in the country, played in like the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yeah, it just hasn't gone the way that he wants.
But he is a good coach.

Speaker 5 (19:17):
He was a good coach at app State, He was
a solid coach at Louisville, and he just hasn't gotten
it all the way going in Cincinnati to the way
that they want.

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we'll get to that in just about a minute. He's
Bucket Brooks.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
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Some sad news bug about your alma mater North Carolina.
Their bold dreams died yesterday in a loss to Duke,
a dramatic loss. Actually Carolina with Bill Belichick finishes right

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now four and seven now, but the dramatic thirty two
to twenty five loss to Duke, it was unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
The Duke had a fake field goal.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
They were losing by a point about two and a half,
three minutes to go in that ball game, and they
had a two point conversion after a touchdown on that call.
It was really a sad way to lose for the
tar Heels and four and seven. I was hoping at
least they get to a bowl this year. Not happening,
you know, And I got to believe, you know, all
the rumors that he's going to go to the Giants
and go back to the NFL, he's not doing that.

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He's staying in North Carolina, and I think he'll turn
it around. But I thought a little bit better, and
I thought they'd beat Duke.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
I really did.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Their opportunities, but it's a team.

Speaker 5 (23:02):
They've had a ton of close losses, have been able
to kind of figure out a way to win, and
despite these best efforts to improve the team, they just
haven't improved enough where they could be on the winning
side of the ledger, so they have one more opportunity.
They played a robbery game next week against State, and
hopefully they can find a.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
Way to get it done.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
Yeah, I'm a little sad about that.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
I thought it'd be a little better this year and last,
but not least our guy Deon Sanders at Colorado. They
got smacked around by Arizona State yesterday forty two to seventeen.
So they're three and eight, one and seven in the league.
And I think there was a statement that came out
earlier this week from Deon saying I'm your guy. You know,
give me time, I'll turn it around, you know. I
mean it looks like he's almost groveling for his job because,

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as we mentioned last week, I knew athletic there are
at this coming up to Colorado.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
I don't think he's any trouble at all.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
I don't think he's on any sort of hot seat
because what he has done for Colorado maybe not so
much on the football field, but attendance, merchandise and visibility.
He's been on sixty minutes all that games are on TV.
So I don't think he's got anything to worry about.

Speaker 5 (24:01):
No, I mean, I don't think he has anything in
the immediate future to worry about. But every time you lose,
you put yourself subject to change. And I think college
football has been shook up by the fact that a
guy that you would think would have the ultimate job
security in James Franklin, he has a three game losing
streak and he's bounced despite all of the stuff that
he's done. So I don't think anyone can walk around

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thinking a I'm on easy street no matter what I'm good.
I think it just heightens the urgency to win, and
to win right away and to stay winning because anytime
it turns the fan base, which is deeply invested not
only emotionally but financially, they expect to win every week.
And that's a different client climate that we've been in

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college football.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Yeah, and the difference right now why I think fans
are kind of leaning more towards college football, I think
than the NFL. In the NFL, there's always that term rebuilding.
You know, they're gonna go for the draft pick. I
maybe rebuild for another year or two. That's not happening
in college anymore, you know, that term rebuildings out the
window because they got to believe that within one year
you could redo your roster with nil and you better

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start winning. That's why coaches really are on the hot seat,
not so much for the exors and os that they know,
not even a recruiting factor going into mom and pop's
living room to recruit a kid. It's getting the wallets
out there from the alums, you know, get the big
businesses in the community to get their checkbooks open, to
get players.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
That's what it's all about.

Speaker 5 (25:29):
I mean, it is all about that, but I still
say this, and I think people underestimate this part of it.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
You can have the.

Speaker 5 (25:36):
Greatest roster with individual players, but not have a great
team if they don't work together. And what everyone has
been proposing sometimes I think is wrong. And you got
to go into port You got to get these people
in the portal.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
This and that.

Speaker 5 (25:49):
A lot of the players in the portal come with problems,
meaning either they come with a desire to have a
bigger bag. They are there because they weren't playing in
their other place and they want to play, so they're
just grundled, or they're simply not good enough. But we
have this college football fascination with like you got to
get into Porter to port us all all of your issues,

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And I don't know if that's the case. And I
think more people are seeing it's not the quick fix
that everyone wants it to be that you can just
jump in there and get a couple of new players
and everything goes away.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
You still have to build a team.

Speaker 5 (26:23):
And for college football coaches who've never had to do
it in terms of year to year build a new team,
this is a new frontier and we're seeing some people
struggle in it.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
There's no doubt about that.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
And you know what, the fans don't they're quick to
turn on you because I know when Mark Pope was
hired as the University of Kentucky basketball coach, they were
going they're ready to build a statue. Now about ten
days ago Kentucky lost to a six rank Louisville ninety
six eighty eight, and that's like a war and the
Commonwealth of Kentucky, and I think the honeymoon is somewhat
over for Mark Pope right now with Kentucky. And more

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than that, you know, I have read that the roster,
they're basketball roster, they spend something like twenty two million dollars,
so they better win.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
I mean, that's what it's all about. Really. They expect
to win and they're paying to win.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
That's what it's You got to do it, and if
he doesn't do it, there's someone else to do it.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
I mean, but think about that.

Speaker 5 (27:12):
I mean, the Kentucky fan base was not happy with
John Caler Party. John Caler Party had the best roster
that you could ever get in terms of recruiting NBA picks,
and they couldn't win consistently. Because he's playing with a
younger team against older teams. They move on from him.
Mark Pope comes in, He's supposed to do more. They
pony up more money, and he can't even match the

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level of success that Cali Pari had. It is a
hard game that we're in right now. It is a
very difficult climbate. But no fan base wants to hear
that because they are now paying money and with more
money being spent out louder voices, that's what we're seeing.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Right I think the unhealthy part of that is that
when you're writing a check as an alum, you want
to have your say, and if they're not winning, on
your putting up a check. You can say, wait a minute,
I pay for this guy in this roster. He's not
doing it. I want him out. So you have a
lot of voices right now. It's not the athletic director,
it's not the president. It's Joe Blow signing a check,
who has probably a bigger voice than the athletic director.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
Yeah. I mean that's what you're saying.

Speaker 5 (28:17):
And it makes it hard because coaches are now not
only as answering to the ad and administration, chancellor or
whatever board of trustees.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Now you're answering to donors.

Speaker 5 (28:30):
Bob Bigcheck is now having to say that you have
to explain to Bob Bigcheck why you're doing certain things
that Bob Bigcheck doesn't know ball. He just wants to
know the bottom line and winning. If I give a
million dollars and my team isn't winning, that's a bad investment.
So there's a lot of that. It changes everything. And
you're also seeing the trickle down effect with players. Players
are talking about the messages that they're getting in their

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DMS and all that, not only from fans, but from
gamblers and those things.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
It's a weird and wacky time.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
It really is.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Now we talked about one stand that was Dionis talk
about his son Shauduur because I mentioned in coming into
this segment that he didn't look like an NFL quarterback. Now,
normally you wouldn't care much about this game today the
two and eight Browns traveled to the two and eight
Las Vegas Raiders. But there is a storyline in this game,
and a big one. The story is shadu or seeing
this starts for the starts a quarterback for the Browns
today didn't look like an NFL quarterback last week. I

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don't think he went four to sixteen forty seven yards,
had an interception in the browns twenty three to sixteen
loss to the Ravens, and his quarterback rating was that
I hate to even say this, thirteen point five. And
the Browns in fact were winning when he went into
the ball game in the second half after their starting
quarterback Dylan Gabriel was knocked out of a concussion. So
what's the problem with Shadoor? Is you going to turn

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it around? I think he'll do well today. I know
he was sacked twice last week. It was the Ravens
were coming at him left and right. But I think
to some extent, maybe he holds the ball too long,
as as we mentioned, a lot of quarterbacks do that.
I think, in fact, Joe Burrow was doing that. Maybe
that's why he was getting hurt. So we'll see what happened.
What do you think that he did this week in

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practice knowing that this is going to be his first
start today.

Speaker 5 (30:05):
Well, he finally took reps because he's the starter. In
the National Football League, there's this thing and I know
I'm gonna say this, and I know all the former
quarterbacks are gonna light up Twitter and they're gonna say, oh, well,
this is how I did it, and you know, but
I think it's weird. It is weird to me that
the National Football League, when everyone is just one play away,

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that they refuse to give significant reps to the backup
player who's only one play away from going into the game.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
So all these quarterbacks take.

Speaker 5 (30:34):
They're all reps hogs, they take all the reps or whatever,
and then when they go out the game, the backup
is ill prepared to be able to play. And people
have said, well that's always been that way. It doesn't
make it right. We've talked about in the league. There
being a quarterback development problem. How can you ever develop
if you don't get reps, and I mean if you

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don't get reps, how do you get better? Like you
can't just look at the game from AFAR and make
major improvements to your game without being able to apply
it in real time. Sure, Door Sanders didn't look great,
like you talked about whatever he was for for whatever
passer rating was bad, took two sacks.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Just didn't look bad.

Speaker 5 (31:15):
But you also know who else didn't look bad in
their first opportunity to play in the National Football League
and he's going to be a gold jacket guy.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
How about Eli Manning?

Speaker 5 (31:23):
Eli Manning the first time that he ever took place,
took snaps in a game, three completions on nine attempts
sixty six yards. I mean, like three for nine is
not great. Thirty three percent is not a great completion percentage.
But then he had an opportunity to get better the
next week and away they go. And I'm not saying
that Sherd Door Sanders is going to be like what
Eli Manning's been because they're not the same pedigree in

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terms of first overall pick compared to being a fifth
round pick. I'm just saying that first start for a
lot of young quarterbacks always looks murky until they settle in,
until they're able to get reps and then play.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
So we'll see what it looks like this week.

Speaker 5 (31:58):
But I will say this, he has the most pressure
on him of any young quarterback to make their first start,
because this is almost like judgment day. This one game
is going to be judgment day for his supporters and
his detractives. If he plays well, the supporter is gonna
be like, see, I told you so. If he doesn't
play well, they gonna say, see I told you so,

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he's not good enough. I've never seen a young quarterback
face this kind of pressure in their first start.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
You talk about this number one pick in Tennessee, I mean,
no one even talked about him. Everybody was talking about
shoulders siders during the draft, after the draft, and even
when the season started and Tennessee is at the dregs
of the league right now, and still no one's talking
about his quarterback play or the team as well. They
did get rid of the coach. But the point that
the matter is that there was no hype around him.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
Now.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
I think Sudui says may have been his worst enemy
at times, but obviously the name Sanders had a lot
to do with it. His dad as well. But he
had a great college career. No, you can't knock that
had a great career prior to Colorado with Jackson State.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
So I still.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Think that he's going to be not maybe an elite quarterback,
but he's gonna have a good career in the National
Football League. And I'm really happy that he's playing against
the team that he could really ball out today. I mean,
last week, as I said, the Ravens were after him,
hitting him in every possible way they could.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
Today, as you say, he took the reps during the week.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
But he's playing against the team that obviously not as
good as the Ravens, and I think he'll do well
to that.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
I really do. I think they'll win.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
I mean, I mean that's a lot.

Speaker 5 (33:30):
It's tricky, you know, it's tricky to put those things
on them, right, because the Raiders have heard all week like, oh,
this is his get right game. He's playing against the
team that isn't good, But there are a lot of
prideful veterans on that team. Max Rosby, never White, Jamal Adams,
and others. They gonna be ready to play and they're
gonna lock it down. I will say, from a structural standpoint,
the way that they tend to play defense should be

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easy for Shredru Sanders because what they line up in
that's typically what they're playing. The Baltimore Ravens more complexities,
more blitz his more pressure, man de man coverage on
the back end a much tougher deal, particularly when you
haven't had practice against the exotic looks that they've giving you.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
But this is one where he should fare better.

Speaker 5 (34:11):
Kevin Stefanski has to build a game plan around his
talents and away they go.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
I just feel like this entire.

Speaker 5 (34:19):
Situation has been rocky and funky from the start because
it doesn't seem like Kevin Stefanski really has a vested interest.
And I'm saying that Kevin Stefanski should be waxing shoulder
standers every time they ask him a question and whatever,
And maybe the weight of the constant conversation about him
just wears him now where he doesn't feel like really

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talking about him in pressers. But I feel like everyone
could have handled this situation differently, from the coach, the
front office, and even the quarterback. They all could have
done this better to make it not so much the
circus that has been from day one, no.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Doubt about that. But I wish you well are really
doing I think will do well today. I hope he does.
All right.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
He is Bucky Brooks on Andy Furman. We have Fox
Football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. And really and truly
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Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio as Bucky, coming
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(35:24):
the hour. This is Fox Football Sunday on Fox Sports. Ready,
He's Bucky Brooks and Andy Furman and we are live
from the Fox Sports Radio studios. And of course, away
we go. Brandon, are you ready for as Bucky?

Speaker 9 (35:36):
Oh yeah, I'm ready. But you know who's more ready
than me? Who's hitting Mighty Mark? He has a question,
Mighty Mark?

Speaker 3 (35:43):
All right, step up, big boy. Okay, here we go.

Speaker 10 (35:45):
So my question for you, Bucky is when it comes
to these various NFL teams that are having horrible losing
season right now, does the coach and now I know
movies are just fantasy, so does the coach? Ever, like
stand up and try to inspire the entire team, or
what is the scenario of when they try to get

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the team back on track.

Speaker 5 (36:08):
I mean they do that on a daily basis, Like
coaches a stand up there in team meetings, they'll show
them movie clips, They'll show them inspirational clips. In those things,
they'll do anything to try and change the mood while
also looking at schematic changes, personnel changes to get the
team back on track. Part of your job is a
job as a coach, is to not only be great
with the x's and o's, but to bring the motivational

(36:29):
factor because it's a human connection business. Yeah, but when
you're losing, you're empty. You empty the bucket, you pull
out all the stops. See, you can get your team
back on track.

Speaker 9 (36:39):
I got I got one for Bucky. I want to know,
with a team like the Raiders, why do teams like
them and the Jets continuously continuously draft quarterbacks before their
offensive line is ready.

Speaker 5 (36:53):
I mean, I don't know, man, Like it's a million
dollar question for every team, Like what comes first to
chicken or the egg?

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Do you get the quarterback?

Speaker 5 (37:00):
Didn't build out the rest of the squad or the
rest of the squad and the quarterback. Sometimes they've had
good teams and had bad quarterbacks because they haven't invested
in a position. Then they would get a good quarterback
and they don't have the offensive line or the pass catchers.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
It is a very, very difficult thing to do.

Speaker 5 (37:14):
But I think the one thing you have to have
is complete alignment within your organization.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
And I can't say that the Jets.

Speaker 5 (37:20):
And the Raiders for years have had that connection, in
that direct alignment that you need from top to bottom.

Speaker 9 (37:27):
Yeah, I mean, I got one more, I got one more,
I got multiple I could go. I get asked Bucky
all day, all night. I wanted to ask because there's
not a lot of national media has discussed the San
Francisco forty nine ers, you know, kind of in a
wide open NFC. And I know they have injuries. What
do you think their ceiling is? Because their schedule is
relatively easy and brock Birdy came back.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
They put up forty one last week.

Speaker 5 (37:52):
I mean, look, everyone has a tremendous amount of respect
for the Niners and what they can be. The problem is,
the two teams in the division appear to be clearly better.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
The Seattle Seahawks and the LA Rams.

Speaker 5 (38:02):
So when you're the Niners and you're thinking about no
Nick Bosa, no Fred Warner, Brandon IYK is evidently not
coming back, you just want to do They have enough
firepower to get it done. Hats off to them for
being able to ball out and do what they've done.
I just think after a while the injuries catch up
to them where they just don't have enough talent to
go toe to toe with the heavyweights in the NFC.

Speaker 9 (38:25):
Yeah, okay, I got one more. Have we got some
of that Drake may So? I know he's an MVP candidate.
We get that the Patriots have kind of beaten everyone
they're supposed to beat this year, haven't really besides the Bills.
I guess you could argue the Bills might have been
you know, they were the favorite in that game. Are
you bought in as them being serious Super Bowl contenders

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and maybe even more so than the Broncos.

Speaker 5 (38:48):
Yeah, I'm bought in on them. And the reason why
I'm bought in as the quarterback is playing at a
level that is MVP worthy. Josh McDaniels done a great
job of bringing him along. They have weapons on the
outside Stefan Diggs talk about Travion Henderson emerging, but the
real reason why the Patriots are the Patriots Mike Rabel.
Mike Rabels was one of the best coaches in the

(39:09):
league in terms of connecting with players, his tactical strategies,
what he's able to do to junk up a game
every week. He gives them a chance because they would
do whatever it takes to win, and they have a
quarterback that camp to him do that.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
All right, I'm gonna go up, Brandon.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
I'm gonna go back on that question you asked Bucky
about quarterbacks in the draft and things like that. The
late great Paul Brown, who founded the Cincinnati Bengals, the
first ever draft pick in nineteen sixty eight of the
Cincinnati Bengals, believe it or not, was an offensive center
Bob Johnson. So he knew and he always believed that

(39:45):
what's up front that counts, just like the old TV commercial,
I believe what's upfront that counts?

Speaker 1 (39:51):
You know.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
He built up that offensive line and then I think
that got Greg Cook, who was a quarterback. But Bob
Johnson was the first player ever drafted by the Bengals,
and he was an offensive center.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
You know you're right, You're right on point with that,
you really are, all right.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
I'm gonna switch to basketball for a question to Bucket
right now. The NBA, it's a multi billion dollar industry
and they just received a broadcast deal for over seventy
six billion with a b for over eleven years. Okay,
and if they shorten the season, you do exactly that.
You lose money. You cut down on revenue at the gate,
you cut down a concession, money, advertising, and a lot more. However,

(40:24):
Steve Kerr says that the NBA season is too long.
What do you think, buck.

Speaker 5 (40:31):
Well, they can talk about it being too long for
the players, but the money's the money. And I don't
know much, but I know this about owners. They love money.
So we can talk about all that. They gonna continue
to play these long seasons. We're gonna continue to see
players hurt because the bottom line is the cash, and
no one wants to part with the cash. So we
could talk about it, but it ain't letting change.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
It less but not least.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
How surprise you, the Minnesota Vikings are four and six.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
What happened to the Vikes?

Speaker 5 (40:58):
I'm surprised they had some warring pains with the quarterback
in look man like.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Growth in this league is not consistent.

Speaker 5 (41:04):
It's hard to stay on the uprise where you continue
to stack great season upon great seasons. So they're having
a down year, even though they have very talented team.
They just have me never get it right.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
There we go.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
Hey, I'm gonna hold off. I want to ask you
a little bit about the Houston Texans. Will continue with that.
I guess at the top of the air what happened
on Thursday night with Buffalo against the Texans. But other
than that, we got one more big I want to
go right here. We'll take your phone calls and so
much more. But one quarterback melted in the spotlight. That
and so much more. We're right here on Fox Football
Sunday next.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
Stay with us.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
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Speaker 3 (42:22):
How are you, buck Man?

Speaker 1 (42:24):
I'm great, I'm great. What's going on, Irony?

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Everything is wonderful right now. And I want to kind
of put the calendar back a little bit. And I
look at Thursday night in the National Football League, which
began week number twelve, believe it or not, in the
Football League. But the Buffalo Bills. What's wrong with the Bills?
Second year in a row. They lose to the Texans
twenty three to nineteen was the final. Josh Allen was
sacked their career high eight times. Two I INT's and

(42:48):
I guess the big play in that game. I'm going
back a little bit. My memory is not the greatest anymore,
but the big play in that game that Bills had
a fourth and one. The Bills, who are losing like
twenty three to sixteen. I believe that about tim minus
left the game fourth to one on Houston's twenty one
yard line, and the Bills decide the goldf it, which
is a pretty good call. However, James Cook gets stopped.

(43:10):
I mean that that to me was the shocker. Not
so much that they lost, but James Cook of all people,
you know, got stopped on that on the fourth down failure,
and I guess when he went to the sidelines, I mean,
obviously he wasn't happy. No one was happy about that.
Josh Allen was very frustrated. The cameras were on him

(43:31):
during the game, but it looked like James Cook was
just out of gas. I mean, he was out of it.
Maybe it was the wrong call. It just is doing
too much work? Is that possible?

Speaker 10 (43:41):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (43:41):
Yeah, I mean, like it can be possible that you know,
you're doing so much work that you just out of gas.
You don't have it in those moments. You hate to
see those things happen. No one ever wants that to happen,
but yeah, on occasion, those things can can certainly pop up.
Is one of those things where you would like best
players to be able to deliver in those moments. But

(44:03):
sometimes you just don't have it, you know, sometimes you
just don't have that to give. Now for the Buffalo Bills,
you talk about what's the issue. The biggest issue for
me when it comes to Buffalo is I don't think
they're the most They're not the most talented team, so
they have to bring their a game each and every week,

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and unfortunately they're not doing that.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
That's been the biggest issue.

Speaker 5 (44:28):
Like, they haven't played great and despite his best attempts
to be superman, Josh Allen.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Can't carry them by himself.

Speaker 5 (44:35):
He needs the help of others, and right now they're
just not getting all of that done.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
And when I mentioned the fact that James Cook looked
like he was out of gas and he was tired,
I went back and look at the play sheet, and
just right before that fourth and one play, he ran
the ball on third down, and that was, according to
the stat sheet, was the fourth straight play that he
carried the ball.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
I just think it's too much.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Look, I see these coach is doing the game plan,
and I watched these games and when a runner, when
a running back has a big play, more often than not,
he's getting the ball the next play. I mean, and look,
these guys are doing the plays next stand up till
one in the morning, and I just sleeping on the couch.
I'm a guy that just watches these games on TV.

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Never played the game, right, but I watch it, and
I could tell you that if a running back has
a big play, more often than not, they're gonna give
him the ball in his belly the next play, all right,
And I think the defensive guys know that too. That's
basically what happened that with James Cook, and that's why
he was stopped. Not that much that he was gassed,
because you know, sometimes the adrenaline could get you going,
but he.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
Had he had four straight carries.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
I mean, come on, really, I mean, maybe were better
off with a quarterback sneak on that play.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
They would be I mean, I do understand that.

Speaker 5 (45:51):
And you kind of expect, you expect Josh Allen to
be able to find a way to put the ball
in the best player hands, and they just haven't been
able to do it like it sometimes it can it
can be wonky like that, but that's that's where we.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Are, right I looked at the statue James Cook run
for twenty yards, He got a first down on the.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
Texans thirty two yard line.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
Then he had a three yard run, then he had
a five yard run, and then they had that one
yard run to set up the Buffalo fourth and one.
All right, and after the third down play, it looked
like he was basically ready.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
To go to the bench.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
Give him some oxygen, give him a beer, give him anything, right,
but don't give him the ball, that's for sure. So
there we go and Buffalo right now. I mean, I
know what's gonna happen. You know, if they get bounced
out of the playoffs in the first round, whatever it
may be, everybody's going to point the finger. As Sean McDermott,
I'm glad what you said was true. They're a good team,
but they got to bring the a game every game.

(46:46):
And honestly, I still believe when a guy when a team.
And these are basically kids that the girl men. But
they got mindset like kids because they've been spoiled all
their life.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
You know that you played the game, You see the
ware they are.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
When they see a uniform team that's maybe not as strong,
they're not going to give one hundred percent. That's just
the way it is. It's not a bad thing. It's
just normal the way it is. When they see the
Houston Texans and they saw they reckon, they're not going
to give out everything. When they see Kansas City, they'll
give you one hundred percent. That's what teams do.

Speaker 5 (47:18):
Yeah, I would like to say that it's different, and
I would certainly say that if they watch the tape,
they shouldn't have treated to Houston Texans like that. But
natural human emotion makes it hard for a team to
gear up to be at their best for seventeen weeks.
What you hope is that the team can in those
moments if they're emotionally or not all the way in.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
That the execution is so good that it doesn't matter.

Speaker 5 (47:43):
But you know, like you, you really on the players
each and every week to bring your best game to
lock in and focus. These games matter, particularly in the
National Football League, more than any other professional sport league
because it's such a short schedule. Every game has significant
consequences and implications on how the season winds up. You

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need to be able to bring it each and every Sunday.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
No doubt about that.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Okay, now I'm going to talk about a team that
has gone from worse to first. And I'm talking about
the Chicago Bears seven and three. They host the Pittsburgh
Stealers today that are six and four. Okay, Aaron Rodgers
with the wrist, I don't know. I mean, is he
gonna play. He'll probably play, but they say it's broke.
But I'm sure he'll play. And it wasn't his throwing hand.
So Okay, they're Bears right now. And if you want

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to look at this, and if you're a Bears fan,
I'm sorry to tell you this, but it's true. They
got five wins when they're trilling in the last two
minutes to the fourth quarter, which is amazing. Ben Johnson
basically took what he learned in Detroit as Alliance offensive
coordinator and he put it into Chicago. Because they're averaging
almost one hundred and forty seven yards rushing our yards
per game. That's higher than the Lions did last year

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and they were one hundred and forty six point four.
But here's the deal with the Bears right now. So
if you're a Bears fan, don't buy your Super Bowl
tickets yet, because number one day at the eat. See
a schedule in the league thus far. Let's look at
their final seven games, Okay, beginning today Steelers six and four,
at the Eagles eight and two, at the Packers sixty
three and one Browns, that's a gimme, Packers again at

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the forty nine to seven and four, and on Week
eighteen they ended up with the Lions six and four.
So it's not an easy road ahead. And maybe I
wouldn't be surprised if they end up with a losing record.
Do you agree with that?

Speaker 5 (49:25):
No? I don't think they end up losing a record.
I think they have come so far that they're going
to be They're gonna be on it in terms of
being able to get it done.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
Now.

Speaker 5 (49:34):
Can't they win the division? Will they win a division?
I don't think they'll win the division. But they're scrappy,
they're competitive, They've done a really good job of rebuilding
the culture. And this is what you want to have, man.
You want to have meaningful games down the stretch where
you get a chance to test your team see if
your team can be as good as you think that
they can be.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
This'd be a huge stress.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
For them, right and look the turnout, the turnaround of
this bull club right now, certainly the schedule has helped,
but it's not all about Kayler Williams. Okay, I think
that you got to give a hell of a lot
of credit to Ben Johnson. I mean he turned things
around that. I think he turned it around during preseason
back in August. I remember reading this story. They were
on the training field and he didn't do well. He

(50:12):
threw him off the field to get out of here.
I mean, that is a tremendous old school football which.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
You don't see anymore.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
I would have to think that Dan Campbell does something
like that, and he probably took that out of the
Dan Campbell playbook. And I think that players respect that,
they expect that, and honestly, there's not much of that
anymore in the national football there's too much I think
maybe coddling.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
I really believe that.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
I think there's too much coddling, and that's why players
don't give out one hundred percent because there's no fear factor.
I think respect and fear go hand in hand, and
we don't see a lot of the fear anymore.

Speaker 5 (50:46):
Well, because I think fear is a short, short lived emotion,
Like you can't scare people into doing their job. Consistently.
You can hold the line when it comes to high
standards and expectations in those things, but you can't browbeat
and scare somebody.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
The end of performing at the level that you want.

Speaker 5 (51:02):
What you have to do in today's time with today's player,
you got to have a level of connection with them.
You have to be able to appeal to their sensibilities,
appeal to what their vision of themselves and what they
want to accomplish is while getting them to buy into
the team being the best vehicle to help them accomplish
those things. That takes real conversation, That takes knowing the player,

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and that takes a lot of time on tasks and
getting to know the players. And so if you're an
X and o's coach, you have a tough time in
today's game because if all you're about are the schinematics
and the tactics, that's not what's going to be the
key to you succeeding. The key is the connectivity between
players and players, players and coaches and coach to coach.
You have to spend a lot of time working on

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that to get the onfield product right.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
And you know what will you said that immediately what
came to mind was the coach of the Miami Dolphins.
I think he's probably a tremendous action in and oose guy.
I think it's a hard time related. I remember what
he did in the postgame news conference after the situation
he had with his quarterback, I mean with two of
the back and forth, and he didn't know what to say.
He was like almost stuttering. I mean, I don't think

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he has a great rapport. Maybe I'm wrong.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
I've never been in the locker room with them. I
don't know what's going on.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
I just from the distance, I can tell you that
this guy, to me is a great x OL guy,
but he's not much of a communicator, and I think
that goes a long way with the lack of success
that Dophins have had thus far.

Speaker 5 (52:29):
Yeah, the only thing I'll say is the communication. Port
don't judge it merely based off the press conference. Sometimes
guys are different when they're away from the mic talking
to the team one on one as a group. So
I'm not saying that you're wrong. I'm just saying sometimes
we can't judge him based on that. Because think about
Nick Sirianni was a weirdo behind the mic, but he

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has a way of connecting with his team that exceeds
anybody's expectations. A lot of it is literally the time
on task that you spend with the team trying to
get the team on the right track.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Dan Campbell was the same way. What is the deductory
press conference he's talked about by getting someone in the knees,
things like that. They thought he was crazy. I mean,
when Dan Campbell got hired, I mean, you're right about that.
I mean, but I just think that McDaniel over there
in Miami, I think he's I don't know the personality.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
I mean, he's one of those guys. Maybe I'm wrong.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
When he was in school, he stayed by himself and
just read books all the time. He didn't have a
lot of friends. Maybe I'm wrong. I mean, I mean
the image I have.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
Well, he is a smart ylarady.

Speaker 5 (53:27):
I think he played at Yale, so Divy League stuff
or whatever is all a part of his makeup in
his persona. He just has to make sure that it's
directed the right way. And said, look, I'll give them credit.
They're playing a lot harder than many teams expected them
to play at this moment. There are a lot of
people that thought it was over when they got out

(53:48):
to the slow start. They fired Chris Career to general manager.
But they've been playing hard. They've been playing hard for him.
So that's a credit to him, and that's a credit
to whatever connection that he has built with them, that
they want to play hard for him, that they're doing
everything in their power to win games, and in doing that,
they're helping him keep his job.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
All right, now, let me move to the Seattle Seahawks.
There's seven to three and they're in Tennessee today at
the one of nine Titans. That game is on Fox
one o'clock Eastern today. Last week, the Rams beat up
on the Seahawks. This is a pretty good game twenty
one nineteen, but it was the Rams intercepting Seattle quarterbacks
Sam Donald not once, not twice.

Speaker 3 (54:24):
Not three times, four t's.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
With Sam Donald, And I'm sure a lot of Jet
fans are saying, Yeah, that's the guy. That's the guy
that we had. I'm glad we don't have that anymore.
Donald has ten I t's this year and Seattle abby
the Seahawks just like Donald's former team, the Vikings. I
gotta believe they look like a Super Bowl contender.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
Do you agree to that? I think they are.

Speaker 5 (54:46):
I mean they are, but they got to eliminate the turnovers.
I think they've had twenty turnovers. Too many giveaways. You
can't win the ball, can't win games in down the
stretch in the postseason if you turn it over.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
I am worried about Sam Donald.

Speaker 5 (54:59):
The clock straight came midnight and him becoming the Pumpkin
all over again because he can't find a way to
avoid the turnovers. So Seattle Seahk's got to fix some things.
But I will say this on paper, man, they're loaded.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
They are.

Speaker 5 (55:13):
They are a very talented team. They play hard, they
can wreck shop. And between them and the Rams, you
talk about two of the best teams, not only in
the NFC West but in the NFC.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
They there's no doubt about that. But you know, it's
funny you look at the success Seattle's had now and
the lack of success Minnesota's had. I think you point
the finger to Sam Donald in both cases, right, I mean,
he's the guy, but we'll see.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
I mean, I don't, I don't, I don't, I wouldn't.

Speaker 5 (55:41):
I wouldn't necessarily say that I wouldn't say that this
Sam Donald is the reason why the.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
Vikings aren't succeeding.

Speaker 5 (55:47):
There's some natural growing pains that you have to go
through with JJ McCarthy as he's.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Learning how to play and lead.

Speaker 5 (55:52):
Remember he didn't have the benefit of a rookie season,
so this is his rookie season, part two, because now
he's playing first exposure to playing in those things. The
one that got away that hurt them was not necessarily
Sam Donald, but it was to have Daniel Jones on
the practice squad and for him to get away and
be a starting quarterback in Indianapolis. That is the one

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that he is the person that they were probably banking on. Hey,
well if we lose, saying we know we can get
Daniel Jones, that'd be on a cheap price point in
those things. That's the one that kind of left him
in alert because without him, when JJ McCarthy got hurt,
you didn't have a viable backup to be able to
get it done.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Let me talk a little bit about JJ McCarthy if
I may, And maybe I'm way off base here, and
if you want to smack me around, you can. I'm
saying that JJ McCarthy may eventually come to an NFL
quarterback and really help the Vikings and do what he's
got to do. And certainly he was hurt, so he's
coming around. But you draft the guy from a college
that there's like no passing whatsoever, and you're going to

(56:49):
a team with Justin Jefferson maybe the best receiver in
the National Football League. I mean, I think that's just wrong.
I mean, I think you got to get a passing quarterback,
and obviously Michigan never passed the football. Don't you agree
that it's got to be a problem, then I don't.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (57:04):
I don't agree because if that was the case, that
means back in the day that all the quarterbacks in
the league would come from Hawaii and Texas Tech. Yeah,
but I know, I'm just saying, but even now that
it's not necessarily about the number of reps that you
have throwing in those things. The most important thing for
the quarterback accuracy and decision making. J. J. McCarthy is

(57:28):
very he's been. He was accurate as a college passer
in Michigan. He was a great decision maker because he
led his team to drive. You saw him lead his
team and make decisions whether it's checking the things in
the run game, making smart decisions with the ball, understanding situation,
score circumstance, all of that he has that I believe
that we don't have enough patience to let him go

(57:49):
through it.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
You talk about the record's their record right now? You
said four and six? What are they? Four and eight?

Speaker 3 (57:54):
Four and six? Minnesota?

Speaker 5 (57:56):
Four and six? Okay, and he missed a couple of starts.
So we're talking about maybe six games into his tenure,
we're ready to say.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
That he can't play. That's what we have is we
have such a quick hook for these young players. That
is a young player.

Speaker 5 (58:10):
You never can work through stuff because the fan base
and everyone is pounding on the coach to replace them,
but no one has a better option for replacing them.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
No, you know what, Like I'm part of that's the
part of the problem.

Speaker 3 (58:24):
You're right, you're right, You're exactly right.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
You're right on However, I'm going to say this, I
don't think he was the right guy for Minnesota with
a guy like Justin Jefferson. That's all I'm saying, all right,
I think that Justin Jefferson deserves better.

Speaker 5 (58:36):
Okay, So who would have been a better guy. So
let's think about when he got picked. So when he
got picked Kaylen Williams, Jaydeen Daniels, Drake may All off
the board. All right, so now you have your choice. Okay,
So now your choice is Michael Pennix, bow Knicks and
JJ McCarthy. So between Michael Pennix, bow Knicks and JJ McCarthy,
make your case.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
Michael Pennix is hurt.

Speaker 5 (58:57):
He's been seasoning the injury for the fifth time in
the last eight years he plays football, so you don't
want him. Take him out. What's the difference in bow
Knicks and JJ McCarthy.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
I don't know. I mean, but bo Knicks. Look what
they're doing in Denver. Look what they're doing.

Speaker 5 (59:12):
Really, they have the number one defense in football on
this what you have more sex than anybody? Like they
slogged through a game last week where they got twenty points,
but man, it was like pulling teeth. It's like going
to get your wisdom teeth taken out at the dentist.
Washington playoffics like that's what it is. But they don't
give you understand. They make you watch it while he's

(59:33):
in your mouth wrenching and pulling things out.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
That's what it's like watching them.

Speaker 5 (59:37):
I just think based on the class of quarterbacks that
were available, JJ McCarthy was a vibe oustion because it
literally came down to don't want JJ McCarthy or bow knicks.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
They're one and the same if you ask me, they.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
Won eight in a row. I mean there's seven and two.
They won eight in the row. But let me go
back to Seattle for just one second.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
Last week was Donald's third career game, third career game
with no touchdown, passes and four interceptions, more than any
one since the year two thousand, which is a total
fifty six games. Maybe it means nothing. Maybe it's a
stupid stat. I get it. Maybe it means nothing. And
believe it or not, I had no idea that Jackson
Smith and Jigba is the leading receiver in the NFL

(01:00:18):
from I had no idea.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
I mean, really, he comes, he's a really good player.

Speaker 5 (01:00:22):
He's a really good player, or he's another one that
long Loder Ohio State receives that take the lead by storm.

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
He sure does.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
Really, and you know you're right because look look at
the Ohio State quarterbacks that have done well in the
National Football League and they don't do much passing either.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
I mean they've done more passing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
Now than they have in the pass but still, in all,
maybe I was way off based on the fact that,
you know, the pedigree where you came from doesn't mean
that much of a difference when you go to the
next level.

Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
Maybe it doesn't, right.

Speaker 5 (01:00:48):
I mean, you know, yeah, I'm not seeing you're wrong,
because if you go that based on Ohio State, then
that would be more in your argument because Justin Fields
didn't do it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
I mean, they haven't.

Speaker 5 (01:00:56):
Had many to have had success coming out Ohio State.
That made him more to your favorite. That might have
been a point for you if we were in a
debate club.

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get into some of this stuff right now, and we
talk about maybe the surprising Indianapolis Colts. We talk about
so many things right now that are surprising right now
in the National Football League.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
But the one thing that I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
Surprised about, and I guess you may have heard about
it too, is the Kansas City Chiefs and their special
teams coach. This was kind of a funny story. Dave
Tube his remarks directed at President Trump of all people,
about the new kickoff rule in the National Football League. Now,
I may be mistaken about this, but I think it's
the players on the kicking team lineup on the opposing

(01:03:34):
forty yard line, while players on the receiving team stand
between their own thirty and thirty five yard lines, and
they're not allowed to move until the ball lands or
hits a return. And this is probably done because they
want to have a more frequency of returns. And obviously,
according to statistics, the NFL is ahead. The twenty twenty
five season, they modified its touchback rule, bringing it out

(01:03:57):
to the thirty five yard line instead of the thirty
all right, and then and then President Trump said he's
not happy with that. However, I like what the Special
Teams coach and the chiefs said. David Tube. He says
that quote, he doesn't even know what he's talking about.
He doesn't know what he's looking at, and now he
has no idea what's going on with the kickoff rule.

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
Take that for what it's worth. I hope he hears it.
How do you like that?

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
I'm surprised that President Trump he gets even involved with this minutia,
I really do. But how do you like that Dave
Tube coming back out and attacking the president?

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
Did you hear about that one?

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
I hadn't heard about it.

Speaker 5 (01:04:32):
But I can understand those guys taking offense to it
because your Special Teams coach, you work very very hard
to keep the kickoff alive, like you don't like outsiders
jumping in, particularly outsiders that are uninformed on the process
and what they had to do to sustain it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
So I can understand two taken offense to that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
Look, I mean I didn't hear a comeback from the President.
Maybe he didn't get to the remark yet, I don't know,
but we'll see what happens there, little well back and forth,
a little war action over there like that. So we'll
talk about the Chiefs right now, they're surprising eight and
two Indye Colts travel to Kansas City and the Chiefs.

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
The Chiefs are five and five right now? What's wrong
with this picture? Are the Chiefs ready to miss the
playoffs this year? Is that possible? Can they possibly miss
the playoffs?

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
Yeah, very possible.

Speaker 5 (01:05:21):
I mean they're in a very precarious situation. I won't
say that this win now everything is a must win,
but yeah, it's situation is critical. They got some tough
games on the dock of the head. They have to
be able to get this done. They've given up all
their margin for era, and let's be honest, they are
not what they've been in the past offensively or defensively.

(01:05:42):
Before it used to be a scatter shot pedestrian offense,
but the defense could bail them out. Now the defense
has been unable to bail them out in some of
these moments.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
They have to play better all around. But I know this.
Andy Reid has been down this road before.

Speaker 5 (01:05:55):
He understands how the maximize the talent on his squad,
they'll play better. I don't know if it'd be good enough, though,
for them to continue to.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
Make the postseason.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
Wow. Look, I would say this perhaps for the time.
I mean, and they told about Travis Kelsey's had a
message the other day that he wants to return next year.
Does this team now need new young blood? I mean,
are they Are they too old? I think that you
look at age factors. I think that people say, well,
the Pittsburgh Steelers having problems, you know why, Look at

(01:06:27):
their defense, look at the secondary.

Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
They're old. They got named players, but they're old.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
And I think when you get to an age factor,
you don't play like a twenty one year old when
you're thirty four or thirty five.

Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
It's just the way it is.

Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
It is.

Speaker 5 (01:06:40):
But and they've been trying to replace those guys for
a while. They've been trying to draft their replacements forever.
They haven't hit. So we can talk about them getting older,
but they're getting older because the young guys haven't materialized.
They haven't been what they thought that they would be.
This is one where they're gonna have to fix these issues. Yeah,
Travis Kelsey.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
Coming back that helped them or hurt them.

Speaker 5 (01:07:01):
If he decides to continue to play, it only helps
him because he has a connection with the quarterback. But
he's not the fastest, the most gifted playmaker on the
field right now, but he's reliable because the quarterback knows
how to play with him.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
They just have to get better all.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
Around, right And I'll tell you this much now. They
got sauce guard and the cold stew in the backfield.
On the defensive side of the ball. They got to
get Patrick Mahos in trouble today.

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
They really are.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
I think they got a great defensive backfield and the
lou Ana Rumo I love. I love that louis doing
well because he was made the scape gooldon Cincinnati last year.

Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
And the defense right now is the worst in the NFL.
It really is.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
And it has nothing to do with lou Anna Rumo.
It's all about the players, you know. I don't care
who's being the defensive coordinator. They just they don't have
the players to get it done. So don't blame lou
And I would say right now, if the Bengals drop
the rest of the games this year, and that's possible,
it is possible. In my mind, they can go oh
for the rest of the season. What happens is Zacht

(01:08:00):
to come back. I mean Zach Taylor. Right now, he's
got to be just looking at the ceiling when he's
embedded nights saying they're firing coaches left and right. It
happened in Tennessee. He was my offensive coordinator. How come
basically I'm still here. You got to believe that he
is on a short leash. However, he's got a contract
for NEXTDN. The Cincinnati Bengals are really and truly one

(01:08:22):
of those teams that they don't like paying a guy
for not working. That's gonna be his saving grace if
in fact it is.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
I mean, he's a good old American way. I wouldn't
want to pay anybody do that work. So if you
if you work, and I'll pay you, but if not
do anything, I'm not giving you any money. I'm okay
with that. Look.

Speaker 5 (01:08:39):
I'll say this, when it comes to all of that,
it's just unfortunate. It's unfortunate that they made a decision
to move on from lou and the defense hasn't been
up the par But I'll say the whole thing hasn't
been right since the Super Bowl that they should have won.
If not for a bad call, they should have won.
They should have been able to build upon it. Joe

(01:09:00):
Burrow has been deemed up too much. We got to
figure out how to solve that, and we got to
figure out a way to be more balanced on offense
and defense. Defensively, they just got to be I mean,
can they make sure eleven guys are on the field.
Can they line up into proper gaps? Can they just
play the call at his call from the sideline? Just
the basic things? Can they tackle? I just want to
see the bases get better for Cincinnati on both sides

(01:09:21):
of the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
No, you mentioned saying about both sides of the ball.
Now here's the question I have. I think a lot
of people are rumbling about this too. They're going very
vocal with this. Maybe they spend too much money on
the offensive side of the ball and that's why the
defense is lagging behind.

Speaker 5 (01:09:37):
I mean they've always done that, but like you have
to make a decision which side cannot be great at
They could be great on offense. You know, if you
give Joe Burrow exactly what he wanted, which he has
to two wide receivers someone in the middle. They have
a decent running back, but yeah, if you give them that,
they should look like a stellar top five offense that
puts up enough points where they can just figure out

(01:10:00):
a way to play defense with that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
Okay, And the big question this week was he was
at practice Joe Burrow was he was out if your
game when Jacksonville came to Cincinnati. That's when he got
hurt with the turf toe and that was like almost
two months ago.

Speaker 3 (01:10:14):
And he's back now.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
I got clearance from the medical people, and there's some
rumors that he might play today. He's not playing today,
I guess Joe Flacco, who in fact is hurt as
well with his shoulder.

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
But Flacco is going to play.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
And I guess the reason being that Burrow's not going
to play today because there's a short turnaround for Thursday night,
Thanksgiving Night in Baltimore. I think they'd rather have him
come and be stronger, maybe against the Ravens. Maybe I'm
wrong on that. That's just my take on it, and
I gotta believe Also, the people were saying, well, they're
not making the playoffs, why play him? And here's my

(01:10:46):
thing on this, You're an athlete. Athletes are paid to play.
They have a different DNA. They want to play, they
don't want to sit. And more than that, the injuries
are part of the game. You can't have a.

Speaker 3 (01:10:57):
Guy not played because he might get hurt.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
Hey, every single Sunday, a guy might get hurt, and
you gotta play, don't you agree.

Speaker 3 (01:11:05):
If he's healthy, he's got to play, and he wants
to play.

Speaker 5 (01:11:08):
Yeah, it just depends on if he can protect himself
to So it's one thing to say, a he's healthy
enough to do it, and it's another thing for Joe
Burrow to say, I want to do it. But the
frontal frontier is can you protect the player from the player?
Meaning a every player has the provider and they believe
that they can get it done, that they're ready to

(01:11:29):
make these leaps. And even though I'm a little hurt,
my eighty percent is better than somebody else's one hundred.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
That's true. However, Joe Burrows a.

Speaker 5 (01:11:38):
Franchise, and the last thing you want to do is
put him out there where he's in a compromise position
where he can't protect himself from the past rush, he
can't protect himself from some of the thing the wild
and wonky things that can happen within the pocket. So
if he's not right, I want to give him another
few days to see if he can get better. And
I want to continue to stretch that out as long

(01:11:58):
as I can to make sure that when Joe.

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
Burrow plays, he looks like the Joe Burrow that everyone loves.

Speaker 5 (01:12:04):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
And it's funny because there's so much protoba should do.
Stand is getting pressure, and I certainly he has, but
he hasn't done anything yet really, and he may become
a great quarterback in the National Football League.

Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
Joe Burrow has a bit of a track rack.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
He gone to the Super Bowl, but there's so much
pressure on him that when he comes back people expect him.

Speaker 3 (01:12:23):
To take this team to like another level. He's not
gonna have.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
I mean, he was healthy last year with tremendous numbers
and they still didn't make the playoffs. So it's not
all about Joe Burrow, right.

Speaker 5 (01:12:34):
Oh, It's all about Joe Burrow because the quarterback is
the force multiplier.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
He's the one that makes everybody's game easy.

Speaker 5 (01:12:41):
If he's there, the numbers for Jamar Chase and t
Higgins skyrocket. If he's there, they're gonna score twenty eight
plus points per night because he's that good. Now, the
problem that you have is Joe Burrow has to be
able to be around, and he hasn't been able to
be around injuries in those things. Some obviously all those
things are on his fault, but that's just the reality

(01:13:03):
of it. Like his lack of durability has hurt them,
so they just got to make sure they protect them.

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
They probably can pour more.

Speaker 5 (01:13:09):
I'm gonna say this, because we talked about the offense,
I would say invest more in the offensive.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
Line to make sure that he's.

Speaker 5 (01:13:16):
Upright, because even if they continue to add players to
the defense, the defense is not going to change dramatically
with a bunch of young players. You got to get
you need one side of the ball to be great,
that's the offense, and then figure out a way.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
To just be good good enough on defense. That's what
they have to get to.

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
Okay, last, but not least.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
I mean, if you're talking about the Bengals than we are,
and you talk about Jamar Chase and he may be,
if not the best receiver in football, the number two. Okay,
justin Jefferson and he and they both went to lsu
believe it or not, but I would say this, let's
talk about he's not playing today because he spit on someone.

Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
Okay, Jalen Ramsey and the stealer game.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
Last week the most disgusting thing, most really, I don't
even want to quote down that. But and I love Jamar.
I think he's great, and I lost a little respect
for him. Not the loss of the spitting, because that's
bad enough, but he didn't he didn't fess up to it.
He said he didn't spit on him. And then finally
some guy had it on tape. You can't you can't

(01:14:15):
hide anymore. Everything is on video, and they saw it
on video and he was suspended, and it just bad.

Speaker 3 (01:14:21):
He refuse to talk to the media. You gott to
fess up, you got.

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
To say I'm sorry, and in the heat of the emotion,
you know I did it, and that's the end of
the story. But the fact that he didn't fess up
to it. What was your take on the whole spitting situation?

Speaker 5 (01:14:34):
Gross, It's the most vild and disgusting thing that another
person can do to one another, to spit, particularly like
man man to spin on to anybody, but in the
heat of competition. For someone to spit on you, that
is worth a butt kicking. That is what it's worth.
And I understand why Jaylen Ramsey's reaction was like that,
there's no place, no place for that. And for Jamar

(01:14:57):
Chase to be able to even think that that's what
I feel about you, that's your that's in your heart,
like that's in your soul, Like that is crazy to me.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
And we saw it.

Speaker 5 (01:15:05):
The quarterback for Colorado State last night spent on a
Boise State defender, and he also deserves a tail kicking,
Like you cannot do that because if that happens, then
you deserve to get the reaction that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
You get from the player like that is oh gross.

Speaker 5 (01:15:20):
And so yeah, I can never Yeah, I can never
look at him the same in terms of loving him
as the player because that act hangs with him.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
It's just, yeah, it's gross.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
And what I fear about that is that when he
did that, and he's got a tremendous stage that he's on,
people know who he is and the status that he
put up, You're going to see high school kids do
it because well, Jamar Chase did it, and they're gonna
think that's part of the thing, and that's what hurts
more than anything else.

Speaker 3 (01:15:47):
Don't you agree.

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
I mean, he needs to start a pro he needs
to get a PR guy behind him, or an agency
or something to kind of maybe do psa commercials, public
service announcements. I'm sorry I did it, and please, if
you're a young football player, don't do that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
Don't do that. I made a mistake that would be
tremendous if he could.

Speaker 5 (01:16:05):
Don't you agree, I mean, yeah, I mean he has
to find a way to make it right after all that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
It's just yo. Yeah, not good, Yeah, not good. I know.

Speaker 3 (01:16:18):
I was shocked that he did that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
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who do you blame for all of this? We're gonna
tell you why, Chris. The blame game is. You're listening
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with the blame game coming right up right here on

(01:16:55):
Fox Sports. Ready about eleven minutes before the top of
the hour, he's Bucket Brooks and Andy Furman to a
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Mike Harmon and Greg CoA Sol will take you all
the way right here on Fox Sports Radio. But right now, Brandon,
we want to thank you for filling in for Breed today.

(01:17:16):
But let's do the blame game.

Speaker 3 (01:17:19):
It's all your fault.

Speaker 8 (01:17:21):
It's your fault. It is all your fault.

Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
Maybe it's everyone's faults.

Speaker 8 (01:17:30):
The liar.

Speaker 3 (01:17:30):
That's why there's the blame game, the blame game. Let's
figure out who to blame.

Speaker 4 (01:17:35):
Alrighty game, let's know it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:36):
Brandon. Are you ready for the blame game?

Speaker 4 (01:17:38):
I was born ready. Let's do it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
Oh jeez, let's do it. Go ahead?

Speaker 4 (01:17:43):
All right?

Speaker 9 (01:17:43):
First off, and I apologize again for my laryngitis, But
don't lie. The bills Thursday night, obviously they got you.
Josh Allen got sacked almost ten times. I think he
got sacked eight times. You could say the offensive line
is to blame. You could say Josh Allen took so
much time to throw. You could say that they didn't

(01:18:03):
give James Cook the ball enough and that Joe Brady
should be at fault. Who do you blame for the
bills lack of preparation against that elite Texans defense?

Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
Bug?

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
Well, I mean, look, I think it has to follow
on Sean mcdermoty. He's a head coach. There's the head coach.
You're the leader of the team.

Speaker 5 (01:18:21):
You're responsible for everything that takes place on your watch.
And they didn't look prepared. They looked overmatch. They just
didn't look like a very good football team. And I noticed,
and I've said this, they're not the most talented team.
So the execution has to be at a high level
after the execution for them is everything, and they just
didn't bring those two things in the game on Thursday.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
I hope Sean mcdermerst in trouble. I think the player
calling was poor. I think that even a schmuck like
me who watches the game on a couch could tell
you that James Cook just had too many carries going
into that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:51):
Fourth to one at the end of the game.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
Really, I mean, come on, really, I get a guy
off the bench to get carried a ball, not James Cook.
That was the key, right, there was a game. They
get the first down, they probably would have won the game.
So I think the play calling was wrong. It was
a panic move. Yeah, he's your best run, he's he's
the gold stand the for a running back situation.

Speaker 3 (01:19:09):
But give the guy a break. You're killing the guy.
That was the key.

Speaker 9 (01:19:13):
Yeah, okay, Well I agree with both of those, both
of those comments.

Speaker 4 (01:19:17):
Who's the blame for this?

Speaker 9 (01:19:18):
And this is more of a complex issue that I
think the NFL has been dealing with for a long
time and I don't think it will ever change. But
Jonathan Taylor's having an MVP season, he won't win the MVP.
I think we all know that. Why won't he win
the MVP? Why can't non quarterbacks do that? And I
know that the Offensive Player of the Year is the

(01:19:41):
award for that. Now, why can't a running back having
an historic season like Saquon last year?

Speaker 4 (01:19:47):
Who's the blame why they won't win MVP?

Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
Both wards, I'll take this one because Bucket went first
last time. I think it's quite easy to answer that question.
So because that you see teams that are successful have
great quarterbacks, teams that don't make the playoffs are the
ones that usually are hurting for quarterbacks. So that's how
valuable that position is and may be the most important
position and all of sport really. So yeah, I'm with

(01:20:11):
few of the fact that Jonathan Taylor certainly is an
MVP candidate, there's no doubt about that. But the quarterback
position by itself is the most viable position on the team.
So the best quarterback obviously is the most viable player.

Speaker 5 (01:20:26):
I completely disagree with Andy's take, and Andy and his
cohorts hard to blame that spill that he just gave
that where he made the quarterback out to be John Wayne.
That's why no one else can win the MVP, awoud
We have made the quarterback be anything in everything when
it comes to this game. They get all the credit,

(01:20:48):
and no they're not.

Speaker 1 (01:20:50):
They're not. They're some good quarterbacks, but we make them
out to be everything.

Speaker 5 (01:20:53):
That's why we pay them fifty five million dollars when
they're not worth it and we regret it later. They
should award it to the best player not the quarterback
for the best team.

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
That doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 3 (01:21:05):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:21:06):
Wow, I don't think we have time for one more.
But all I'll say is, Miles Garrett.

Speaker 9 (01:21:10):
Does he get an MVB vote even though his team sucks?

Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
He should?

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
Look, you know you're pushing it with Jonathan Taylor. At
least he's on the offensive side of the ball. You know,
you talk about Garrett as a defensive player.

Speaker 3 (01:21:23):
You know why you're living in a different world.

Speaker 5 (01:21:25):
You really, I mean, give well, if that's the case,
Daniel Jones is gonna be our MVP. Daniel Jones, Sam Donald.
I mean, anybody, just throw anybody up there.

Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
Jalen Hurst can get it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:36):
But you know what, Jalen hurts.

Speaker 1 (01:21:38):
Jalen Hurst can gets it because they win. Anybody who
wins a quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:21:42):
You know, Daniel Jones will get MVP votes. You know
he will. No, not my money will he should.

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
Jonathan Taylor's the engine that makes it go.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
I agree, I agree with that, but it's not gonna
happen because blame me. Maybe it's my fault. Yes, that's
the way it is. All right till next week.

Speaker 3 (01:21:58):
We'll see

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