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Good morning, Buddy, happy, happy happy happy, Uh Saturday with
the Fellas. It's August the fourth and the demise of
the PAC twelve. Shocked, not shocked, but that it all
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came about. And yesterday was the death blow to the
big to the PAC twelfth. Great amazing, amazing day in
college sport, college football. Uh that we gotta get to Fellas.
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wild day with the PAC twelve as we saw earlier
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in the afternoon yesterday about Oregon and Washington joining UCLA
and USC and the Big Ten, and then the Big
twelve snatches Utah and Arizona State later in the day
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as the PAC twelve is no mo Fi your HERDV
figure talk about it down to four teams. Wow, you
know it's odd, right, like change, change happens, I mean, right, evolution,
and you know it's for sports fans, change, dramatic change
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like this is a lot to get used to. And
the Pac twelve. We've said before about USC and UCLA
being in the Big Ten, and now that Western Division
just got a ton stronger by Oregon in Washington. You
could see it. Figured. I've been talking about this for
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a while that there's just gonna be two conferences. It's
just like the Super Conference. It's gonna be AFC and NFC.
I think I think it almost makes sense that you
would have these two conferences that you know, somehow now
we'll see because you have obvious Big twelve, so you're
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gonna have your super conferences. But at some point maybe
it's just better to split the country up and then
they're all in divisions. That's what it feels like wild
wild stuff in college football. Good morning, Figuie, I thought
of you right away. Good morning. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Well, you know, we've kind of seen this coming for
the last couple of years, or I should say the
last year ever since SC and UCLA announced they were
going to the Big Ten. You know, we discussed, you know,
what can the PAC twelve do to kind of salvage,
you know, the conference, and you lose the biggest TV
market that you have, it was gonna be difficult. So
they were talking about trying to lure San Diego State
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or SMU, but they just weren't going to be able
to fill the void of.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
USC and UCLA.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
And really, the conference has nobody to blame about themselves
for the botch TV deal, and Larry Scott basically is
really the person to blame to show to the majority
of the blame for the PAC twelve no longer being
a conference and why SC and UCLA decided to depart
for the ten. Maybe it was going to be inevitable
anyway looking at the sort of TV contracts the SEC
and the Big Ten sign, but certainly the PAC twelve
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would have still been a viable conference had eleven years
ago the PAC twelve would have just has signed up
with a distribution company with ESPN or Fox, CBS, whoever
else instead of going in on their own. So the
PAC twelve as an entity has nobody to blame but
themselves for what happened.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah, you know, I'm right there with you, and it's
it's man, I think like change in sports hits you, right,
because with sports fans, you're conditioned, right, You're conditioned to
kind of feel a certain way and this is how
things should be. I mean, I know people that still
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can't get over the Big Eight, yes, right, Like you know,
so it was good with Nebraska Colorado being reunited. Right,
It's so funny how we are a sports fans. Well,
like this Big Ten is, you know, it's it's a
strange look because you're so used to the Big Ten
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being the you know, the powers of the of the Midwest.
Now they're at you know that he added Maryland and
Rudkers and you know, and then they were just getting
used to Penn State. Yeah, and now you know, and
now they're at you UC la USC or get to
watch it. It's completely wild.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yeah, but to your point, you know, things evolve over
time and maybe I'm not a big traditionalist, you know,
when it comes to these sorts of things. Honestly, weird
as it may sound, the only thing I'm a traditionalist
about is like jerseys, like usc A Notre Dame is
a classic. Look, don't change your jerseys, the Raiders and
the Cowboys, don't change your jerseys. But realignment, teams moving,
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sometimes losing rivalries, you know, sucks.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
I'll be honest with you. But if it's for the.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Betterment of the sport, why wouldn't you like inter league
play for baseball? Remember that twenty five to thirty years
was a big deal, and now this year the first
time everybody's going to play everybody, which is great. You
know you're a sign I think you mentioned h Yeah,
is a fan of Mike Trout, who is a Jersey
Philly guy. Well, now who'll be able to see him
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every other year because he plays in the American League,
where as opposed to years ago you may never have
been able to see him. It's a global Everything is
global now, let alone national. Everything's international at this point
in time. So the idea that the college football, which
for years was a mostly regional sport, people have fought
back on the BCS, and as much as we hated
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it with computers and maybe how the rankings came out,
it was ridiculous for us to decide a national champion based.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Off of voters. I mean, listen, how stupid was that? Right, No,
there's a lot of great evolution. You know, again, there's
a part I'm very more. I'm way more sentimental. So yeah,
for sure I had that sentimentality. I do, and I've
always been a sentimental person, so I go, it always
feels just the only thing I'll lament is like I
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think about the PAC twelve, you know, which originally was
the PAC ten and the eight before that. Yeah, yeah,
you go, those teams were always grouped together like that
was always I mean, that was a major conference. That
wasn't some you know, it wasn't some fringe conference. That
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was a major, major conference. We know about all the
did you over the years, Lincoln our you know, our
dear friend Lincoln Kennedy worked for the PAC twelve network,
and all the jokes that we would always talk about
back twelve soft you know, just mess around. But it
was but it was a grouping of these conferences, of
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these teams in this conference, and it was just the
way it was. If I told you, you laugh because
I am way sentimental. Bets, I'm more sentimental about that
i am anything else. Right, Like I still miss hockey,
and this will be a foreign concept to you. I
still miss hockey being named the Smithe Division, like the
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you get the divisions, and then the conferences they were
the Clarence Campbell Conference, like you know, the James Patrick Division. Stupid, right,
Like it's still like when you think about it, why
wouldn't it be you know, uh, you know directional east, west, south,
you know, right, But but it just you just get
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sentimental with sports. I know that that's something that i've
I get, I can have that.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
There's something to be said for and look, I did
enjoy you know, as a kid, you always look forward
to January first, and it was always the Pac twelve
or the Pac ten back then versus the Big ten champion,
and that's something you always look forward to.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Now that had been long.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Once the BCS came into the mix, the playoff got
into the mix, and the ward who's got kind of
murky as to who was playing in the Rose Bowl
and who wasn't based on the rotation, and I certainly
respect people that have the sentiment for that. My sentiment,
honestly at this point is I just want to see
the best games. I want to see the best teams
play each other as often as I possibly can. And
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it's unfortunate for teams like Oregon State and Washington State
who just don't have a lot of juice and we're
basically buoyed by big boys like USC and Washington and
Oregon and they're gonna be the ones who end up
losing out in this, and I do feel for them,
but unfortunately this is just kind of you know, where things.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Go, how the sport evolves.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Ell look, maybe at some point in time, if they
join with the Mountain West and if they have a
good enough year, they can stillok, it's a twelve team playoff.
If they're ring highly enough and have a good enough year,
they can sneak into eleven and twelve and see what
they can do. It's unlikely, but I don't know if
they're totally dead to right, it's at least not quite yet.
But I certainly understand the sentimentality towards the PAC twelve
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pack eight PAC ten because it had been around for
so long. I do I don't want to seem like
I'm being flipping about it. I'm just not as sentimental
as many others are.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah, listen, I get it, and listen I joke with
you before about the two making the splitting the country
up into the AFC and the NFC.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
No, yeah, your favorite head coach, Chip Kelly, agrees with you,
by the way, really, Oh yeah, he the UCLAB writer
at the LA Times talk to him about this Friday morning,
and he says, yeah, you know, coming from the NFL,
I think eventually we're just gonna have and this is
something you've been saying for a year now, by the way,
that we should just have like you know, AFC, NFC, West, Southeast, North, whatever,
and that have college football just kind of mirror what
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the NFL does. And I don't know if it's going
to happen in the next five six years, but it
wouldn't surprise me if it happens within the next decade.
The way things are going.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I mean, you know, it just makes a lot of
sense because the way you can do it and the
way the playoffs structure. You could do the playoffs and
have with the divisions, it just makes sense. Now the
only thing that want your division, and yeah, you know
it would complicate matters and it's things you can work through.
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But first of all, like you know, the Big ten
just signed this ginormous media deal. I think it's ten
years or twelve years. The ACCS just isn't a huge
grant of rights deal.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
And you know, obviously Floria State is in a giant
mess with that right now through twenty thirty six, all
these individual conferences have their own media deals and to
do what we're talking about doing, you're basically talking about
getting a Commissioner of college football and basically merging all
of this together and selling the TV rights the way
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the NFL does.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
And if you're the Big ten who just.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Signed an eight billion dollar TV contract, do you want
to pool together with the SEC and others and say,
you know, have to split that revenue with them. You
know that that's kind of where all this kind of hits,
it comes to a head, so that that's where the
issues are going to pop up. I have my own
media rights deal for billions, ye eight billion. Now you
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know in six years when they when the window help
us the negotiating, it will be twelve or thirteen or
you know, Why am I going to split my pie
with another conference if I don't have to.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
I think we're heading to something like that, only in
that I think the sport is so big that you
need a czar. You need you need you know, you
need a committee or whatever you want to call it
or whatever it is, a governing body because the sport
is so big. And I got news for you. You could
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see down the road the scandal that's coming, so you
could see the all. You have, the issues with the portal,
you have the issues with the nil and then you
also have an issue that's coming down the road that's
going to be a deal, and that's with gambling. Oh,
it's already happening. What happened with Iowa State, that's correct.
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I mean you saw, I don't know if you saw
yesterday the NFL send a letter to the congresswoman of
Nevada asking for some sort of petition, some help, and
that they're with the league's you know, gambling policy because
they're afraid that you know, it's going to be way
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more widespread. And look, that's the NFL. Let alone college football,
where you know, the NFL is one thing, because you're
going to have guys that make a lot of money,
that aren't you know that you can't get to but
the but college football, I don't care how big the
nils are. They're all vulnerable.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Yeah, you know what, it's not going to be the
guys who are getting the NILS.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Is going to be the guys who aren't. It's that
backup offensive guard. And it's like, well, if the running
back is getting a NIO deal, I want a piece too.
Why is he getting the money? You know how I
can get it.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
I can talk to this guy on the side and
give him intail and get a cut or whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
You know. Yeah. Now, and and with the proliferation of
gambling and the gambling apps, because the gambling apps, it's
a game changer. Yeah, it's just it's makes It's not
like you got to go find a book like right, yeah,
and you got to go meet on a street corner
and in the cloak of night. This is I'm just
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going to download. You know, I got a thousand apps.
I'm downloading another app to my phone. And or even
nobody's the wiser, yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Or even the some of the kids who are caught
up in this scandal right now, And I always state
like they just had their parents do it for them,
you know, right, and then they're they obviously found a
way to link it back to the kids. But who's
to say, like, oh, yeah, no, this is my dad.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I didn't do anything. My father's you know, like he's betting,
you know, he's the one betting inside information, not me.
And it's true, Like and it's not like you need
to go to the to the mob, you know what
I'm saying, But like, well you got the mob and
they're trying to get inside information. Now it's like this
is so easy. Now this is Jones says, hey, uh
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is your running back on the run for over twenty
over a hundred yards?
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Like now he's got a knee this week, so he's
probably not gonna get that many touches we're gonna write
with this other guy, so probably not. So I will
take the under on his individual performance this week. And
that's all you need.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yeah, and everybody goes, wow, it's it's cute, right, Betting
on sports is so cute and this and that and
and it's going to be in every states at whatever
it is now, thirty eight states, thirty six states. Yeah,
and yeah, we all like it. As it's all a
great fun little hobby for you know, when you're not
involved in the game, until you until you realize that, uh,
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do you really want to put your money down with
something that it could be manipulating? Uh huh could be compromised? Absolutely,
and and and then and that's an issue because for
college football, because you know, you're, you're, you know, everybody,
because even the nil kids, it's not like, you know,
it's the NFL and you got you know, forty six
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million guaranteed, right like, you know, there's you know what,
all those kids, you know, most of those kids, even
if you're making you know, good money cup on a
grand you're gonna still want more. And that's just and
it's too easy. It's too easy. It comes to you easily.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Like I said, all it takes is one guy asking
you for And this is why I thought were Brian
Kelly's done did this week was so smart. He says,
you know what, we're just gonna LSU was just gonna
put out our own injury report like NFL teams do,
to try at least somewhat to buck the trend. We
don't have to have people coming around talking about what's
happening and who's healthy who was not. So we're gonna
give you two injury reports per week, and in the
morning of the game, we're gonna tell you who's playing
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and who isn't. Yeah, that might remember you just a
small step, but I think it's I think it actually
would make a major difference, at least for that program. Yeah,
and I think other teams should think about doing it,
or the NCAA, which is like losing power every other day.
So whoever is in charge of this sort of thing
should seriously think about doing something like that so at
least sort of help it along to try to avoid
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manipulation however you can.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah, I think he's I think he's he's dead right
about that. I think he should do that. And you know,
at some point, I don't know how you combat the
other stuff. That's hard. I really don't even I mean,
it's just such a can of worms. I mean, in
the NFL itself is having an issue, right, I mean,
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you know, I mean like every other way. And you know,
it's funny. Somebody brought this up to him the other day.
They went, you know, I bet you that there are
other bigger named players that have done it and it
was swept onder the ruck and it's like, who knows,
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Like you don't know, Mack. It's possible, right, it's possible.
It seems like you know, and it could be something
that's innocuous, like where the guy goes, yeah, if you're
making a you know, a few million bucks, then I
want all the bet. Isn't that big a deal right right?
Like to you because you're making all that money, But
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to the iverage person, that's a big bet. That's a
big bet, and that needs something like so you know
it's a words. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Well there's two ways to look at it too, because
if you're the NFL, you can say like, well, X
star player who's made five Pro Bowls or whatever was
caught up in a gambling scandal, and we're gonna use
this guy as a martyr to say look how serious
we are cracking down on this. Or they can go
the other direction and say, yeah, maybe go after all
these small name guys who are the play you know,
use them. Do it from a volume standpoint, with all
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these guys that no one, with all due respect to
them cares about on a major scale from a player standpoint,
And I have one of the faces of the league,
because if it's a face of the league situation, that
is opened to the whole other can of worms.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yeah, yeah, that's a problem. All right, we gotta take
quick t o. I'm that thrilled you back. Yes, glad
to be back, my main man, fig. We were gonna
we're gonna geek out today because we got lots of
discuss We are in the throes of camp football. You
could taste it. We're three weeks away from week zero.
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God I didn't watch much of it, but I knew
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it's funny. I will talk about it on the other
side because I did. It's a longer conversation. Yeah, I
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if the NFL was back this week with the Hall
of Fame game. In fact, today we'll have all the
Hall of Fame speeches of the nine newest members of
the Hall of Fame, which I always love love. This
weekend signifies the kickoff.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Of football absolutely and I look honestly more forward to
the inductions on Saturday than to the game on Thursday.
Usually it's pretty sloppy, not the prettiest. And I'll be
honest with you, like I said, I watched a little
bit of it. I actually caught the end of the
game more so than the actual kickoff, and saw a
copa couple of local guys that I'm familiar, boy Thompson Robinson,
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so a guy because a lot of people said too
he uh oh, he might have to change positions and
be a receiver, and that you know, that sort of
narratives kind of pops up with guys like him. Uh
So the fact that he showed himself pretty well, I'll
be it against third and fourth stringers, but you know,
you play against who you play against. Was definitely turnover
prone at times at UCLA, but made some spectacular plays too.
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So he and a really good kid with a great
hit on his show, there's someone who was really easy
to root for. So, uh that was a positive that
I took out of the out of that game. At
least that DTR looks pretty good.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
That's funny you said that because I I, uh, I
root for it. You and I talked about him before.
I've always rooted for him, and so I was looking
forward to him coming in the game. Uh yeah, it's so.
They were killing me yesterday right on my local show
that me for, you know, watching the game talking about
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the game, and I go listen. Obviously I wasn't taking notes, right,
because when I watch games like on the weekend regular
season college in the NFL, I'll take notes, right, So
I have pages and pages of notes or on my
phone or whatever. Hell, I do it. But normally I
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sit and I watch analytical write, I write about only
and listen during the week when I can reference back
to them and go, hey, like, this is what happened,
and this is why I like this kid, and you know,
look and then I have it. I have it. I
saw it right, Like, so you know, if I watch
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the coach, I have that. You know, I'm a fake
football guy, right because I know all those guys in
the league, and I like to talk about it, and
you know, I try to watch there's there's I'll watch
a handful of teams every week. I watch their you know,
their tape because you know, like the hooked at their
coaches and just you know, get involved in the whole thing.
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And it's fun. It's like my hobby. And so they
were killing me yesterday because I was watching again. Now
I said, listen, that wasn't one of those games. You
looked at it like it was a television show, Like
it was a three hour change TV show in which
the subject was football right the coming season, and it
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just was an excuse to kind of imbibe in the season. Man,
that's all. Yeah. Well, look, if you're going back on
the NFL Plus and watching all twenty two of the
Hall of Fame game, that's I won't say it's a problem.
By the way, I think it's great.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Anybody that has that level of passion for anything, I
think it's spectacular. But like, you're basically a pro scout
if you're doing that sort of stuff. But I know
you don't take it to that level when it comes
to watching preseason games especially, But to say that you
just enjoy watching the sport, you can turn it on
and have a rosters full of guys who you may
or may not have heard of, and just enjoy watching
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the sport in and of itself.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
I think there's something great about that. I got you
one bit, Thank you, fig Thank you. So I was
trying to explain to our new our producer, Shay he
is off today. He's in Spain and Shaye's in I
was trying to explain to him because he's like about
I was happy that you're back, and he's like, dude,
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what do you got a man crush on Figures? And
I go, Figures, my man man, Like, I'm like, we
geek out. We do what we do when it comes
to sports. And I know he would judge me the
way my man judge me. It's not a judge like
it's punk over here trying to judge me.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
It's not a judge. I got a crush on Kevin too,
You kidding me and me and Sha way back? Yeah,
go on, good, I could have now I gotta talked
about him.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yeah okay, oh yeah, I heard a little bit about
what happened last week. So he's got like he don't
think the world existed, you know, prior to his existence.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Just because Reggie Miller's all doesn't mean he's good.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Wow, here we go, Here we go. Mark is hopping it.
That's my man, Mark, Mark, Mark, tell them how we rolled?
Mark All, let's not get started. I don't want to
get tell how we rolled? Man. They started. Figure is back.
Everything's good, right, I'm I don't know. I might want
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to have me. I might want to hear this Mark.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
I think Figure might have my back on this.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
I don't want to to kick my feet up and
get some popcorner. Just here, you two go at it.
It sounds like it was pretty entertaining last week. You
have to have like, listen, I love to educate people.
Now it's my role to educate people. But you have
to be open to be educated. True, you have to
you have to understand the game.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
And I went to a four year college. Come on, man,
I don't need education.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I'm in that. Re education in sports is what it is. Okay.
So now it comes to broadcast, me says the producers
behind the scenes, unless he's invited all the air. Wow,
look at that pulling rank on you, shy Well listen.
I believe if you look up the longest running show
(27:10):
in Fox Sports Radio currently right now, it would be
this one. Who across the whole network celebrate I'm trying
to think, but that sounds about right. So my man,
there's a little bit of rack, a little bit of respect,
all right, That's what I'm talking about. Figgy, Hey, my brother.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
All right, we're gonna mentionin League Baseball for Friday night
Dodgers beating the Padres in San Diego. Final score was
ten to five thanks to a five run eighth inning
for Los Angeles in Los Angeles, Anaheim, specifically Seattle four
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(29:06):
I and and can I rail on new age thinking
in baseball? Okay, you've never done this before, so because
because listen, I mean, there's some things I love, right,
and there's some things that are incredibly stupid.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
Right and.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Hit it. Making Kyle Schwarber lead off is ridiculously stupid.
Now what is there? I've wondered this and I I'm behind.
You can hate it. I hate it makes me angry,
like it's like it's like a It's one of these
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things where it's a thousand pins pricking my body at
the same time. It's what I feel. I loathe it
so much.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
I mean, it makes sense to me that a guy
hitting a buck seventy will be leading off. I don't
know what you're talking about, but.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
He walks a lot faked. Yes, he's on base. He's
like three thirteen. The other night he's on first because
he walked. Okay, Bryce Harper scolds a ball down the line.
Now you would have scored, Shaye would have scored. I
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probably wouldn't have scored. Mark might have scored. Hi, you
guys would have made it a third maybe, and so
did Shoreburn, but he didn't score. And if you're gonna
have a leadoff guy, not clogg debate, not clogged the
bases up like my wife's hair does my bathroom drained,
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I would think that would be smart for a baseball
man to have him a little down in the lineup.
And by the way, all he does is either hit
a home run, walk or strike out right, the big
fight in baseball nowadays. Yes, So if that's the case,
and the times he does hit home runs, wouldn't it
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be nice to have a man on base?
Speaker 3 (31:13):
You will think that makes sense. Now who on the
roster at this point in time. I guess if he
was hitting better, maybe Trey Turner would be leading off.
I know they just dropped him in the lineup recently,
but he kind.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Of will be your classic giganic. It's been a deal here,
like it's been a thing here. Oh, I'm sure it has.
Like he he has been this topic of conversation and
there's a lot of there's a lot of consternation that
he's done right. It's like, no, he's not well struggling
this year. I don't know if he's done. And if
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he's done, that's bad news for fulfilling because he's gonna
be there for ten more years. Listen, I keep telling it.
He's not done. He's not done. He's young. It's just
exactly you saw in the World Baseball class that he
was Captain of America, right, like, just you know, let it,
let it be. Sometimes for whatever reason, you know, bright
Happer came in the first year and struggled a little
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bit too. Guys are human and things happened environment a
pressure of a new contract, you know, all that stuff. Exactly.
You're we're all human, we're all flawed, and we all
you know, we all have to think. So, you know,
last night, so it was the top. I guess that
I got ripped it yesterday. Yeah, okay, yeah, because I said,
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you know what, instead of just you know, killing the guy, right,
instead of of bashing the guy and booming them, why
not give the why not give the the standing go? Wow?
So wait, you're the one that started this movement? Huh? Yes,
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because he basically got like a heroes welcome every bet
on Friday night. Yes he did, and I and I'm
very happy to say nice that I played a little
part in Now That's great, And I'm telling you because
my producer was anti that. Yeah, yes, he was anti that.
(33:09):
He he he wanted he wants you, he wanted the
blood blood. He's a piranha uh. And it worked to
a little bit. He was based a couple of times,
had a big hit and a huge hit. Yeah right,
you know, not that day matter because they lost to
the Royals. They're going places, yeah they are. But the
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idea of you know, cheering a guy instead of when
you steady boot with them, you know, saying basically saying, listen, Trey,
we got your back, my man. I thought it was
a cool thing. Yeah, it is cool.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
And look, it really doesn't benefit you or him to
boo him out of the building because again, you're gonna
be there for a while, so it could be better
off just trying to encourage the guy and see if
he can kind of break out of this slump. And look,
by the way, there's still you know, a couple of
months left from the season. There's a postseason which the
Phillies are thinking the race of he can change all
of this if he has a good you know, end
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of the year and into the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
All it takes is just one little run, and dude,
it's it's funny because you could totally see him get
hot at some point and carrying them into playoffs.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
And I've seen playing for the Dodgers the last couple
of years, there are times where he was the spark,
the catalysts to their offense.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Who wasn't I'm sorry, I miss you. Who wasn't Trey
Turner for the Dodgers? Oh oh when Turner did that
for the Dodgers? Yes, yeah, yeah, So I say he's
done it before, right, right, And there's been in history,
there's been guys who have struggled during the regular season
and then just for whatever reason, wake up in the
playoffs like that. That also happens like a big time
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free agent comes over and the next thing, you know,
he finally starts to feel comfortable. You know. I mean,
that's that that can happen. And that's a new age
to day that I love because I think that people
are more willing to do that today than they would
have been in nineteen ninety five. Oh yeah, no doubt that.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
For well, you know, people are more focused or more
sensitive to mental health, which I think is great because
it's something that I thought for years was just not
discussed or was underplayed, and we realize that it's a
real deal and a real serious issue for a lot
of people. I'm not saying that's Tray Turner specifically, but
I'm just saying in a general sense that there's more
focus focus on that sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
So I thought, and it's great, And to be honest.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
With you, most people would say, like I wouldn't see
that sort of mentality coming out of Philadelphia, knowing how
harsh your town can be on athletes who are not
performing well. And I don't think that's unfair to say
throughout the history about you know, Philly fans specifically can
be really tough. New York fans, Boston fans same. So
I think it's really cool that someone youse Philly through
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and through and has been been there forever to kind
of start these groundswall of support for a guy who struggled,
and for the fans to actually jump onto that.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
I think that was actually really cool to see. Yeah, thanks, brother,
I was happy. I was real happy. All Right, we
got lots to get to. We're gonna go around. We
may stick with a little baseball acts little state of
the league. Where we stand at the state of Major
League Baseball, but we're gonna have a heavy dose of
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Speaker 2 (36:38):
All right, welcome back, fellas from the Tyraq dot com studio. Fig.
Let's look at the at where we stand. First, what
were your thoughts on the Angels decided to be buyers
at the deadline? And I understand why because you got Otani.
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You weren't, you know, completely buried. Why not, you know,
take a shot is basically what you're I guess what
the mindset was.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Yeah, the problem was they were kind of in no
man's land. I think at the time of the deadline, they.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Were like five games out of the wild card. So
it's almost like you would rather have been completely out
of it or totally in it, and so you're kind
of in no man's land. I certainly understand why they
would try to go all out and try to keep
him and see if they could, say, try to make
a run into the postseason. He's never made the playoffs
as long as he's been with the Angels, so I
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can see it from both sides. If it were me,
I would have sold because I don't think there's a
great chance that he stays. They obviously feel differently in
their front office and like they played really well coming
out of the All Star Break.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Initially, they've kind of skid it a little bit. They've
lost four straight. After they're lost to Seattle Friday night.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
I mean, Debt mesk, you got to get better out
of him, Yeah, and he had been better.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
They're pitching, which actually had been decent for a little
bit the last month or so, has really hit the
skids the last couple of weeks, when really it was
their lineup. They have so many guys who are injured
on the injured list, but most of those guys are
on offense, they're position players.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
They're pitching.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Actually overall hadn't been that bad, but it's it's just
kind of just taking a nose dive at the worst
possible time. And Otani, in an interview with The La Times,
talked about cramps and how it's fatigue based, and I mean,
I just imagine putting myself in his shoes, and he
has to go all out and you know, play his
ass off every single night, whether he's pitching, hitting, no
matter what, just to try to get them into the postseason.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
And he shouldn't have to work that hard. He has
to do all of this.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
It's not by himself, but it seems like it is
at this point. And you just wonder if he has
a chance to go somewhere like the Dodgers or another
team where he has a little bit of help, he
doesn't necessarily have to showder all of the burden just
to try to get them into the playoffs. Because I
don't have no designs on the Angels actually making a
major impact or making a lot of noise, even if
they do make it.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Yeah, and that's the issue.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
If you were trying to sell Altani on staying, sell
him on we're going to be able to actually build
this thing for the future.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Yeah, we're going to reinvest and we're going to get
more and we're going to go after this and that,
And I just don't see that.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Ardi Moreno is one of the few owners who voted
against raising the luxury tax. He doesn't want to spend
more he wants to make money, not spend money. And
when he has spent it, he spent it unwisely.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
So I respect the fact that they want to do
what they can to see if they can keep them.
But I'm so pessimistic, pessimistic on the fact that they
could have kept him. I would have traded him away. Yeah, no,
I feel it because see, he walks for nothing. It's
and you just get a draft pick.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
I said the same thing on the air over the
last couple of weeks that you just had to trade him. Yeah, yeah,
I had to. And let's face it, the Texas and
the Astros are terrific, terrific team, So you're not catching
them in the division. And you were into this wild
card game and look and you're stuck, right because you
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got the Rays, the Yankees, Marinas, I mean, you know, Toronto.
I mean, you got a lot of teams in front
of you. Yeah. Uh. And it's it was tough sledding
for them. So it's it's unfortunate. But I think I've
said on the show before for showy ol tany, I
think the best the best thing for him is to
get out of Dodge go somewhere else. Yeah, yeah, it's yeah,
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uh the other night in the Hall of Fame game
and let us discuss what this season is starting to
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shape up. And it's funny because they're intel from camp
starting to trickle in and just how teams are taking form.
So I love this time of the year too, because
then you hear it started like certain whispers. I was
telling these guys the other day that I got talked
to a guy from the league and he chastised me
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for dismissing the Cowboys. Okay, heard we were talking about.
He's like, dude, He's like listen, I hey, yeah, you know,
you know you're all eagled up. You know. He has
to throw a little dag, a little dagger ant me,
but he said, uh, this cowboy team is going to
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be dangerous, and I hit him with yeah one, I agree,
quinnky coach. I love their defense. I like Cooks, but
you still got the head coach and the quarterback. And
to me, kN no head coach and that quarterback. Can
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they changed their stripes?
Speaker 3 (42:23):
Well, the head coach is now calling the plays with
Kellen Moore now out here in Los Angeles with the Chargers.
Whether that's good or bad, I guess we'll have to see.
But that is Mike McCarthy's calling. Cart you know, he
called the plays in Green Bay. He got the job
in Green Bay because he was an offensive coordinator previously,
and some say this is kind of like the last
desperate cry. If you remember when he got the job.
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Kellen Moore was grandfathered in under Jerry, and we know
Jerry likes to keep he has his guys, and he
was one of Jerry's guys. And Mike McCarthy, according to reports,
was never really a gung ho on Kellen Moore to
begin with, and because they have not gone swimming in
the last couple of years. Basically, he got his way,
and people are saying Jerry told Mike, all right, you
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want to be the in charge of the offense.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
You want killing out he's gone. Here's kind of your
last hurrah.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
So we'll see if the offense is going to take
the vision of what Mike McCarthy wants it to be
and if that makes any sort of difference. That's kind
of the most intriguing thing about the Cowboys for me
this season.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
And yeah, I'm with you. I never was a fan
of McCarthy and I think he underachieved in Green Bay
with a you know, a very good teams, I.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
Agree, very good team in game coaching leads much to
be desired as well.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
Yeah, so let's complicate it by throwing play call on exactly. Yeah,
And so that was my issue to this guy inside
the league. And then we talked about Dak and you know,
I agree with Trayvon Diggs, like you know, Fitts football man. Oh,
that's dumb. That was the biggest nonstar like things. Bid
(44:00):
and guys say everything to each other and again offense defense,
I mean, that's you can't read into.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
Anything like people would be surprised at the things these
guys say to each other at one fifteen in the
afternoon and then you see at four thirty when they're
having dinner, laughing and yucking it up exactly like, how
are you talking to this guy after what he said
to you a few hours ago? That' stuff happens all
the time. That is like classic, nothing to talk about.
It's early August and of a video went viral and
(44:29):
let's you know, spend eight minutes talking about something.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
That story exactly exactly right. But I feel like i'm
my issue attack though, Okay, yeah, my issue attack is
he is when things are going well and you know
he's got he's got the good confidence, he can he
can look terrific. Now he can pick you a part
at times if he's hot, he can, he really can't.
(44:52):
But too often he's not. And I you know, exhibit
you know a through Z begins with that playoff game
against San Francisco, A game yeah, truthfully, the Cowboys should.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
Have won, absolutely, Yeah, he just has too many and
it always happens in the biggest spots. That's the issue.
And the regular season against Detroit or whoever. It is
no slight to Detroit. I know they're better and they're
exciting and all that stuff, but just as an example,
it's one thing. But you have these constant playoff blunders
with Dak where he underperforms, and that's the issue, and
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that's why you're with the Dallas Cowboys. That's they haven't
won a super Bowl and god knows how long they've
won one playoff game and how many years has it
been twenty something like that. It's uh so, and all
the pressure is now on his shoulders. And Dak was
never He was always for me, just a kind of
a shade above decent or an average NFL starter. He
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was a guy that you had to have a superstar
team around for you to have a chance to be
able to win. And as good as their roster is,
I don't necessarily see them having a superstar roster.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
And in that division with the Eagles, look, I think
there'll be a play team. I think they can make
a wild card, especially now with the expanded playoffs.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
That's fine.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
Whether or not they'll make noise in the postseason, that's
where I have a question. And the NFC isn't especially tough.
It's extremely top heavy, to say the least, so I
don't think making the playoffs will be much of an issue.
I think making noise in the playoffs is where the
Cowboys problems creep up.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
Yeah, I'm with you, you know, I'm with you. I
think they make the playoffs. I think that the conference
is pretty thin. It's obviously in an AFC world, the
all the good teams in the ANFC. So Dallas is
good nothing I get. I love their defense. I think
their defense spectacular, phenomenal. Yeah, I'm with you. I mean,
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you know, I mean Parks's you know, I could watch
him all day long.
Speaker 5 (46:46):
He is.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
So I think they're good enough in that sense. And
I think the like I think the team that takes
a step back, I don't. I don't get it. And
unless we're missing something with Daniel Jones, yeah, I don't
see the Giants back in the playoffs. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:05):
It's and I realized it's the market and how things
work out. And the big controversy this offseason has been
about running backs.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
But how you can.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
Justify paying Daniel Jones more than you pay Saquon Barkley
is mind boggling to me.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
Right, it makes no sense. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
It's like you can't find a replacement level quarterback for
Daniel Jones for less than that you are that desperate
to keep him and like, look, he was solid, he
ran the.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
Ball well all of that.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
You found a way to scheme around his deficiencies, which
is what a good coach does, and that's what Brian
da Ball did and I give him all the credit
in the world. The problem is when you have a
run like they did last year and you make it
into the postseason, it fools you into thinking you're better
than you actually are. And I think that's what the
Giants ran into. It's like, well, we make the playoffs
with Daniel Jones. If we get rid of him and
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we don't make the playoffs again, people are gonna come
down on us. But I don't think you can operate
that way. Like you have to operate out of the
from an abundance mindset and say, are we good enough
to win long term and go deep in the postseason
with this guy? And if that's not the case, then
cut bait and start over. And there's nobody, even the
most ardent Giant fan can't look you straight in the
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face and say we can win a championship with Daniel
Jones as our quarterback.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
I don't get it. And again, you know, Brian Dabele
is a brilliant NFL guy, brilliant football guy.
Speaker 6 (48:29):
Man.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
I'm a big Dable fan, and it just perplexes me
why he would, you know, kind of go with go
to Ward and re up with Daniel Jones. That could
also be above his pay grade too.
Speaker 3 (48:43):
I don't know if the ownership apparently likes Daniel Jones
a lot, so a lot of times that sort of
stuff is out of the head coach's hands. And I
don't think day Ball is like also the president and GM.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
So I don't know he had a little more gravitzas
like you know what I mean, Like I thought he
had listen like your dad to get it right because
they failed a lot, I mean since Tom Coughlin. Yeah,
you know, they struggle with klind of coaches. So I thought,
you know, grab it Dable was a coup and I mean, look,
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brings it to the playoffs, well, not a whole lot
to work with, yeah exactly. So I thought, Now again,
I could be wrong, and you're right, it could be
just an ownership thing and they go just make deal
with it. But I thought Dable would have a lot
of great gravitas there.
Speaker 3 (49:30):
And look, maybe he does in certain senses. But you
know how a lot of these owners are. They have
their guys that they you know, bang the table for,
and they're the ones that signed the checks. So a
lot of times but grudgingly the coach says, all right, well,
this is what I have to work with. And look,
that may or may not be the situation with the Giants.
I don't know that, but I don't think Brian Daboll
has you know, final say over the fifty three or
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has maybe as much sway as he would like.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
And maybe he did bang the table for Daniel Jones.
I don't know that. I don't know that one way
to the other.
Speaker 3 (49:59):
I would doubt it, if I'm to be honest with you,
I just think he kind of just made you know,
chicken salad out of you know what with what he
had to work with. But yeah, I think they're they're
kind of poised to be one of those teams that
takes a step back this year, for sure, because they
snuck up on a lot of people last year.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
Yeah. Yeah, we uh, we're going through the divisions. I
kind of tricked you and to kind of going through
the divisions with me perfectly fine, right, you know what,
here you go. You're gonna go through every division. You
know what.
Speaker 3 (50:28):
I'm not gonna hit you with that Lincoln angle today.
Every season we played a game earlier. This week it's August.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
I give you issues when you started doing this on
June eighth, I got all right, that's where creeping. But
football season. That depends on guys who played the game. Nice.
Speaker 3 (50:48):
Look, rosters are final. You know, no major moves at
this point really are going to be made. Their rosters
are what they are at this point in time.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
So let's go. So the talk around Eagles camp centers
around the idea of losing the Super Bowl loser, and
for some reason, it is haunted teams that get to
the super Bowl but lose. I don't know how this team,
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No team is impenetrable, but if there's any team that's
close to it, it's this team. And I think it's
because one part of it is because of the mentality
of one Jalen Hurts, whose screensaver on his phone it's
Patrick Mahomes with the confetti coming down from the super Bowl.
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And if I told you how every little tidbit that
comes from Jalen Hurts, I love. I mean the mentionality
of Jalen Hurts is just that of a winner. And
I don't see him, you know, resting on his laurels.
I don't see that.
Speaker 3 (52:00):
I heard him in the interview say he wants you know,
he has to master He's still working on mastering the
three aspects of being a great quarterback. That's being able
to run, pass and lead, lead as an intangible and
something that look. We talked about how guys rallied around him,
his work ethic, all of that, and that he said,
that's something he's still working on. That's the kind of
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guy I want to be my quarterback right there.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
It's funny. There was a game and it was Jalen's
rookie season. It was the end of Doug Peterson and
it turned out to be the end of Carson Wentz
as well. And I'll never forget he got hurt and
Jalen goes in and they were the rest of the team.
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The offense played differently. There was like out like they
had a little more giddy up, right, And we all
sawid and we were all kind of looking at it
and we were thinking, could it be you know, could
it be like that they were in bold and when
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Hurts caught a rookie comes into the game for Wes
and I'm going, I can't that can't be right. But
that's what we all saw. And you know it's something
that's in the changeable, right, so you know, you can't
look at it. It was as you know, fact, you
just feel like you get a sense, you start to
(53:32):
vibe and you go, man, they rather play with Hurts
than than Wets, is the conclusion with the GIDEO. And
it turned out to be kind of one point.
Speaker 3 (53:43):
Yeah, well, because at that moment it was also tough
to gauge is it were they rallying around Jalen or
were things just so bad with Carson that anybody other
than Carson that would have been like, all right, let's
go forget this guy over here.
Speaker 2 (53:56):
And you realize that it was both huge earlier into
the Carson demise, Yeah, you know, he was still back
another year, but yeah, yeah, or he was still back.
It was more games and for the remainders, the play
you know, going to the playoffs, the whole thing. And
by the way, where do you know where Carson wentz is?
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Now he's on the farm and the stream on the
street in the middle of the field deer. Yes, in
the duck blind. It's just amazing. But but again, if
you're if you're a team where you calling him, oh,
absolutely not right. I mean I don't care how that's
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what you get. I mean unless you're really down and
you have injuries and everything else. But you know, because
she's amazing.
Speaker 3 (54:51):
Second overall, Pick was on his way to an MVP
season before he tears his a c L and was
just never the same.
Speaker 2 (54:58):
And he he came back and he had flashes and everything.
But you're right, man, once he left Philadelphia, he got
the last concustume. Remember the playoff game early in the
game and they gotta had they had to bring them
that uh puts his name in from the Jets they've
been around. It was like he was at ESPN. He
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was like a thousand years old and he couldn't even
He tore his hamstring in the first on the like
second play there that he came, yeah down, Josh McCown
and that's how bad it was. And you're like, oh,
and you know, because's wets had come in the last
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he led them to four to zero. Uh, like stretch
run to make the playoffs without a lot of talent
around them. This is you know, pre A. J. Brown,
pre Devonte Smith, this is still you know Ragger and
all these other guys. And he comes in and amazingly
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leads into a playoff game. So the dude, the dude's
amazing because he had all his skill and he was big,
he could run and he could throw it. But man,
he just played hero ball, could never get past it.
And then he was absolutely harm I mean, how about Indianapolis.
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They couldn't wait to get rid of.
Speaker 3 (56:26):
Him, right, right, even if his stats were not god awful,
but just there's always just been a vibe around him.
And I know the players in Philadelphia. I'm sure you've
talked to.
Speaker 2 (56:39):
Him about it.
Speaker 3 (56:39):
Yeah, he's just not the easiest guy to rally around,
and that's a problem when he's your quarterback. But I
will say, so you go back to last season, remember
that the Bengals had that tough Super Bowl loss to
the Rams, and they made it all the way back
to the AFC Championship Game last year and gave Kansas
City a run again. So I know, usually the stats
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don't really bode well for the Super Bowl loser of
the following year, but considering how the NFC is stacking
up or not stacking up, and how talented the Eagles
are and just reloaded. I mean, did they really need
to get another great defensive end and linebacker in the
draft ought to help their already crazy pass rush. I
really don't see them taking a step back. I don't
even know who will be the legit challenge to them
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to come out of the NFC San Francisco and.
Speaker 2 (57:24):
Yeah, we'll get to them, But I don't. I agree
with you. There's not a lot of a physician for them.
And Jalen Caught is all that dude, so not here
Jayleen Caught, He's a beach. He's going to be a best.
One of other guys told me he was like he
like he was like a new toy. You know, he
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hasn't even shown up like consistently, but there's a couple
flashes that you just go, oh my god, this dude,
there's a monster. Got to find snaps for all these guys. Yeah,
exactly crazy. And then there's Washington. Well, and I will
say this, they're going to be better, not tomorrow, but
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they're going to be better down the line that they
got rid of that Daniel Snyder and Josh Hart's going
to make them better.
Speaker 3 (58:15):
Speaking of positive vibes, just to the entire building football
or not. Just to get that, you know out of
the building, that bad juju, that guy out. You do
one positive thing for that franchise in the time.
Speaker 2 (58:29):
He was there, No, no, none, just that just rotten. Right.
Speaker 3 (58:35):
You literally ran one of the marquee franchises and all
of North American sports.
Speaker 2 (58:38):
Into the ground. Yeah, systematically, that's his legacy. Yeah, a
lot of money, fee sins, you know, has leaders and such.
Well you just the creating. Yeah right, and that's my
my end. Doll Is made a lot of money. Man
ain't everything because you got you go back you want
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to talk about if you're Daniel Schneyder, don't you just
go you know what, maybe I'll just go pack it
up and move to the South of France. I got
all the money in the world. Good, Yeah, right, Like
why not just go somewhere where nobody knows Daniel Sneyder
I never watched football again.
Speaker 3 (59:21):
And maybe he and he and Donald starlink and buy
mansions next to each other and they can.
Speaker 2 (59:26):
Do what they do. And you know, it's the creting
section of the neighborhood right of the rich Man's neighborhood. Yeah, yeah,
I'm with you. All right, We'll come back, and I
want to take a look at the NFC North next,
because the NFC North is an interesting division, very interesting
figgie where the fella is a little preseason kind of
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looking at everything with a division by division right here,
Fox Sports Radio, all right, well come back, fellas from
the Tyraq dot com studios. So are you buying the
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Lions fake? Because I am. I know there's a lot
of hype around it, and usually when there's a team
with so much heat around them, so much hype, that
you want to go the other way. But I'm buying Detroit.
Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
Well, look, they certainly should be as good, if not
better offensively with just another year of experience, and I
think Gibbs is going to make a big impact for
them if they're just a quarter of the way better defensively,
which I think they will be.
Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
Yeah, yeah, they should be better. So buying them as
a team a playoff team in the NFC, Yes, beyond that,
I'm not willing to go that far, but yeah, absolutely,
as a legitimate contender in that division. Absolutely. Do you
where do you think their weaknesses are right. And I'll
(01:01:03):
ask you this, because you saw Jared Goff from the beginning.
Do you believe that Jared Goff has turned the corner
and is now arcing as a legit one of the
upper echelon quarterbacks in the NFC. Uh, well in the NFC, sure,
but that doesn't really go very far. Yeah. Maybe that's
(01:01:23):
why he couts it like that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
So, I mean, look, I still think he's a guy
that's very scheme dependent and he thrives best when things
are schemed well for him, and if he has to
operating chaos, I still don't think that that's the best
situation for him. I think he's better at it now
than he used to be, but I don't know if
I will feel comfortable in saying you have to drop
back in past forty eight times a game with no
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running game, go win it for me.
Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Now, most quarterbacks can't do that, But if you're talking
about him being one of the upper echelon, you got
to be able to do that every now and then.
And I still don't think that's him. But that being said,
he's definitely I think he's definitely turned a corner and
he's in so yeah, I think he's one of the
best quarterbacks in the NFC is how I would put it,
but best in the NFL. I don't know if i'd
go that far. Is he a top twelve quarterback in
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the NFL? Uh, you'd have to give me time to
go to think that over. Possibly I could probably well
to the top of your hal the periphery of the
top ten shore sure, and that's something that that is
I think with this offense. I think their offense is legitimate,
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absolutely is you know, I really do. And you know, defensively,
I mean that team is a nasty team. Defense, they'll come,
they'll get after you. Yeah, well, you know, Hutchinson is
going to be a year better, so that certainly will
help Jack Campbell.
Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
People kind of questioned the pick, so we'll see exactly
how he ends up fitting in. But like I said,
they've definitely made some additions. Defensively, it's still not a strength,
but if it's just one moticum better than it was
last season, you know, that's pretty much all they would need.
I mean, they were knocking on the door last year.
Towards the end of the year, they were one of
the hottest teams down the.
Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Stretch weapons is kind of what I'm thinking right.
Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
Offensively, yes, Offensively yes, Offensively, they can score with anybody.
Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Right, I mean I look at him like, go man,
they could, they could, They can. Actually, they're potent that
way in that respect. And defensively, I mean that line
should be able to that front, should be able to
get afty. And you still worry about their back end
a little bit, but.
Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
Is thankfully I think gonna be okay, yeah, because that
would have been a huge loss for them.
Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
I know, I like it. I like them in that division,
so I would take Detroit in that division. So you
would take Detroit's actually come out of that division if
you were predicting it right now. Yeah, okay, Yeah, I
don't know. I would not call you crazy for saying that.
Do you like green Bay with Jordan Love who just
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in the you know, little glimpses that we saw Mace here,
it looked better? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (01:04:14):
For me.
Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
If Jordan Love is just decent, there's no reason why
green Bay shouldn't be. I don't know if I say
their favorite to win the division, but they have as
good of a shot as anybody. They should be along
with Detroit up there with the favorites to win it
because from a roster standpoint, I think.
Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
They're pretty darn talented on both ends.
Speaker 3 (01:04:33):
The big question for them is just a quarterback, but
if they're going to be able to run the ball
with Jones and Dylan and I would imagine they're going
to try to run it even more than they did
the last couple of years with Aaron Rodgers. You just
need Jordan Love to be to be solid. You don't
need to be spectacular. Yeah, the question is can he
be that?
Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
Yeah? And it's a big ask, right hey, because I
look at that division and I go, right, well, someone
else is scaring me, really to be right? Like, you go, okay, well,
who else do you like? The Bears?
Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
There's the Fields hype train. I think remember a couple
of years ago and miss Trubisky was like getting all
these bets for MVP. Yeah, and apparently it's now rolled
over and Justin Fields is like the sleeper in Vegas
for all the MVP. All right, let me see if
he can complete a four pass first, no offense. And
(01:05:29):
I'm exaggerating, but only slightly. It's like guy rips off
a couple of runs and I know he's a spectacular athlete,
and I'm rooting for him. Seems like I have a
good head on his shoulders and he works hard. He
says he didn't want to do the Quarterbacks documentary because
he didn't want it to be a distraction.
Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
I respect all of that, and I hope he improves.
Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
Yeah, but I still think he has a long ways
to go based off of what I saw from him
last year.
Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
Agreed, Agreed. It's funny like like I look at and
I and I listen. He could be a dynamic player.
I mean, without a doubt he can be, but I
don't think he's ready to go to the playoffs. Like
put it this way, I look at and we'll get
to them. But I look at Bryce Young, and I
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think Bryce Schunk can win that division. I think, like
I think Bryce Schunk comes in and will be great,
like very good. I don't want to think great as
a rookie, but I think he's gonna be very good,
and I think he'll I think he'll be a weapon,
and I think he'll be able to get the ball
down the field and find his throwing lanes like I
(01:06:33):
could see. Like to me watching Bryce Young, he just
comes in at as just a polished guy. Yep, where
Fields I don't think has the same polish No.
Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
No, Now, obviously he has the experience of playing in
the league under his belt, right, Uh, but he just doesn't.
He's not as refined as a passer. And look, maybe
they run more, you know, the the Jalen Hurts sort
of offense and do a lot more of that this
year in Chicago, which I feel like they tried to
do a lot last year. To be honest with you,
this the pass game component just didn't come together so well.
(01:07:08):
Dj Moore help, I mean he should, But I mean
if DJ Moore is running a phenomenal route, I mean,
can he can he actually get the ball to him?
Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
Right? That's the question. Yeah. So you know, I agree
with Pryce.
Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
So by the way, we talked about this before the draft,
I was like, he was far and away the number
one pick, the best quarterback. There was no debate with
me and CJ. Stroud. For me, even with the height
and all that, it does not I fully expect him
to come in and make an impact.
Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
Yeah, and maybe that's kind of when I was referencing. Yeah,
but then and then you got Minnesota, who again they
have they're gonna have a good offense, and I you know,
I think they'll miss Dalvin Cook a little bit, but
I still think they'll have a dynamic offense. Uh. Defensively,
they were so abysmal last year. I don't know how
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good they they got.
Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
They won so many close games, got of like smoking
me at times last year too. Yeah, people were saying
like this is like the most fugazy eleven ten whoever
he wins. They got team, I mean, and that fetch
was so bad they made they made Daniel Jones look good.
Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
Yeah, I mean, they got rid of guys.
Speaker 3 (01:08:13):
They was supposed to be sort of a rebuilding this
a quasi rebuilding year, and they happened to just play
well and make plays when they needed to. I think
the running game is actually gonna take a step back,
to be honest, Yeah, I don't think there are lines
that great.
Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
Yeah. Uh, and Dalvin Cook I think is a huge
loss for them, So you too, I don't even get
the Dalvin Cook thing, to be honest with you, I
just don't even understand it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:08:37):
I don't know exactly what his cap number was gonna be,
or how much money it actually saves them by cutting
them moves. I know they've had some bad contracts and
Kirk Cousins is a big, big part of that. And
they've kind of they've got themselves in some salary cap
hell over the last four years or so, and so
they're kind of in last year kind of started getting
rid of a couple of guys. Uh and Dalvin Cook
was a casualty this year. So my hopes are not
(01:09:00):
extremely high for Minnesota, to be honest.
Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
So it goes back to Detroit. Yeah, And that's kind
of where I'm at with Detroit and green Bay to me.
Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
Yeah, And I think from a roster standpoint, I think
top to bottom, green Bay has the best roster in
that division. Just the biggest question mark for them is
the most important position on the field, and that's quarterback.
Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
All right, Well, that'll be a fun one for us.
We'll watch. We'll keep that out. Yep, we'll keep that
going all season long. All right, time out for some trending.
All right, we'll go to Major League Baseball. From Friday night,
the Dodgers scored eight runs in the final two winnings.
They picked up a ten to five win over the
Padres in San Diego. Seattle hit four home runs, picking
up their third straight victory. They beat the Angels in
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Anaheim nine to seven. I do at least Garcia hit
two home runs for Texas. They pick up a victory
over Miami, Jordan Montgomery picking up a victory in his
first start for the Rangers five home runs for Toronto.
They beat Boston seven to three and have a three
game lead over the Red Sox for the final wildcard
spot in the American League. Pirates defeated Milwaukee eight to four,
but will still have a half game lead over the
(01:10:05):
Reds in the National League Central after Cincinnati lost to Washington.
He also had victories for Baltimore, Houston, and Cleveland at
the Women's World Cup. Earlier this morning, Japan defeated at
Norway in their round of sixteen matchup by the score
of three to one. They'll take on the winner of
tomorrow morning's United States Sweden match, which you can watch
on Fox at five am Eastern. Earlier this morning, Spain
beat Switzerland five to one. Utah, Arizona and Arizona State
(01:10:28):
officially became members of the Big Twelve.
Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
They will begin their campaign in the twenty twenty four
academic year Oregon in Washington will join USC and UCLA
in joining the Big Ten next August as well, and
in the NBA, the Lakers and Anthony Davis Agreedsway three year,
one hundred and eighty six million dollar contract extension.
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you the five questions coming up in just a little
bit as well. But let's continue going around the all
the divisions, and we are in the NFC. We did
the East and North. We touched on the South and Caroline.
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And I like Carolina because I think Bryce Young, I
still think they had some talent there, and I think
Bryce Young they just had no production a quarterback. And
I love Bryce Young, I do. I'm you know, figuring.
I both loved them to come out of coming out
of Baba, and I think it's gonna be polished, and
I think he's going to lead that team to a playoff.
Speaker 3 (01:12:24):
And I think getting Miles Sanders was a kind of
an underrated pickup for them too, another weapon in the
backfield to go along with the tube behover. So and
look if look, if Matt Ruhle had just any modicum
of production from the quarterback position, he wouldn't be in Lincoln,
Nebraska right now. He'll still be in Carolina. That was
really the one position they couldn't get fixed. So it's
unfortunate for him, but Carolina was able to get themselves
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their quarterback of the future. So yeah, I think, and
that's one of the weaker divisions in the entire sport,
to be honest, so it should be a fairly easy
division for them to be able to win if they
can keep their guys healthy.
Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
Yeah, and that's when you look at it. I mean,
you could see these all the teams Atlanta, I you know,
and I don't even get taken a running back that high.
As good as that running back is, I wouldn't have
minded it if and I know Mariota hasn't been great,
but I thought he would have fit if you wanted
to run sort of an option sort of like what
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the Eagles are running, and have someone you know in
the backfield along with the dynamic running back. But Desmond
Ridder is not that guy, and he was ultra conservative
and didn't look very impressive to me last season. So
it surprised me that they decided to basically put all
their eggs in Desmon Ridder's basket to be their starting quarterback.
Because honestly, I think Atlanta actually played pretty well last year,
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all things considered, better than people thought, and I thought
if their quarterback position was even just a halfway decent,
they can actually make some noise and potentially be a
team that can compete for that division. But I just don't.
Speaker 3 (01:13:51):
I'm not a fan of Desmond Ridder and I don't
think he I don't think he's a starting NFL level quarterback.
Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
It surprised me that.
Speaker 3 (01:13:58):
They didn't really go out of try to address a
quarterback position better than they did.
Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
Yeah, yeah, I felt the same thing. I just don't say.
I'm trying to figure out what direction they really want
to go in, and I just I don't see it.
I really don't see it. Tampa is terrible and there's
really nothing to look forward to there. And then you
have the Saint says, a wild card type of squad.
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We'll discuss that coming up next, Fellas, continuing our tour
around the NFL right here on Fox Sports Radio, Fellas
from theti iraq dot com studios, as we're talking NFC South,
(01:14:44):
what kind of to me, it's between Carolina and the Saints,
And look, the Saints still come at you, right, they
still have some playmakers on that team. Oh absolutely.
Speaker 3 (01:15:00):
I mean, you get Kamara back off of his three
game suspension, but you got you know, a lave who
I think is spectacular. Thomas is supposed to be healthy
for the first time in nineteen thousand years, so hopefully
he's back, and it can be you know what he was,
I mean he was I mean in the conversation for
top you know, top three, top five receiver in the league. Yeah,
kind of numbers he was putting up a few years ago. Yeah,
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So they have all the weapons in the world. Derek
Carr can be inconsistent at times, but certainly when he's on,
you know, he's you know, on the periphery of the
top twelve to fifteen quarterback in the NFL. So, you know, defensively,
they're certainly not terrible. I don't know if they're as
good as they have been in the past, but they're
certainly not terrible. So the big question for them is just,
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I think, offensively, how big of a jump do they
take with Derek Carr at the helm, because if they do, yeah,
I think they're they're right there neck and neck with Carolina.
Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
I think I do too. And I while I like Carolina,
I mean, the Saints would be the safer.
Speaker 3 (01:16:01):
Yeah, the potential is higher, the ceilings higher for the
Saints because of the guys that they have.
Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
And because let's face it, because because you have you know,
a car as being a big deal. It was a veteran.
I mean right, like that's you know, I mean you've
been throw it and Lord knows he's been throw it. Yeah, yeah,
so you would have been him in some senses, yes,
(01:16:30):
and others. Know, there is a certain stability I like
the you know, how we you know, I thought he
was a really good leader at times, but there is
just you know, every now and then, there's probably about
eight or nine plays a year where you just scratch
your head with both hands, like, oh, what the hell
are you looking at? Yeah. It happened just way too often,
(01:16:51):
and it happened at the most critical times.
Speaker 6 (01:16:52):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
There was two plays that stand out to me. A
couple of years ago.
Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
There was a game against Kansas City where it was
fourth and goal with no time on the clock, and
he threw the ball out of the back of the
end zone.
Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
There was a play last year. I remember that play.
I remember it like it was yesterday.
Speaker 3 (01:17:11):
Last season, the Christmas Day game against Pittsburgh, and he
has Hunter Renfro running wide open down the middle of
the field and just air mills it. And by the way,
that was one of the that was I think his
last thrower, second to last throw that he made as
a Raider. It was that next week that they benched
him because I did that sort of stuff just happened
way too often at the most critical of times.
Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
It did it just did it was uh you know
it was it just dogged him. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:17:39):
So look, maybe playing in a dome with a really
good running game, you know, with just dynamic weapons like
Olave and Thomas, you know, that can certainly help him.
He has thrived when he's had a lot of talent
around him. So you know, he had his best his
best year when he had Amari Cooper, a young Amari Cooper,
a Vet and Michael Crabtree, you know. So yeah, when
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he's had guys around him, he's been productive. DeVante Adams
had a good year last year, but a lot of
the other guys on the periphery didn't. Hunter Renfro didn't
have that great of a year, the tight end Waller
missed the majority of the season. And I think that
as far is as you know, big a reason as
in he as to why he didn't necessarily have the
greatest year last year.
Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm with you. All right, let's do this.
Let's go to the west and listen, run off the
bat you know it's San fran Seattle. You know Arizona
is going to stink. Yep, Arizona is already deep. They're
(01:18:42):
already in for Kia Caleb Williams. Yes, shut, they're all
in for that. The coach is your boob. So let
me just say this. I was about that.
Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
I was aloud to say in your Eagles assessment, you
didn't mention the big loss of Jonathan Yann and how
that's going to affect what's going on.
Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
Yeah, yeah, somehow they're gonna get some value. Won't be
there to lose the super Bowl for him again? Now,
oh god, it was the field. What do you mean
it was a slippery field? Yeah, not how he plays,
not the place he called it all. No, no, not
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at all. But I want to get into the Rams.
Yeah they're interesting, yo, because this Ram team is I mean,
they're not completely done, Like I think they have a resurre. Now,
obviously it's all about Stafford's health.
Speaker 3 (01:19:33):
But there's three guys who need to stay healthy for
their their success, and one of them is already hurt. Yeah, so,
and I guess we're can dive deeper into a next hour.
But they're like the perfect example of where you don't
want to be in the NFL or any sport.
Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
Really, they're a no man's land. I know, well, let's
discuss them. I also have the five for you coming
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In case you just joined this, we're going through through
all of the division's kind of snapshot of all these
NFL teams are where they stand as we start to
really get into camp. In an earnest way, the Hall
of Fame game was there. We are now in the
concluding the NFC. We are in the NFC West and
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we're talking about the Rams. Now fig is very close
to the Rams. As you could see, they were a
team and you said it when we last broke, which
was man, this is a team that is in no
man's land. They're not a rebuilding team. There were a
team that's older starting to break down. They need everybody healthy.
(01:21:41):
If they're healthy, they could compete. But health is a
big question.
Speaker 3 (01:21:45):
Yeah, and Cooper Cup has already gone down with the
leg injury. Now they said it's not super serious. He's
only going to miss a couple of weeks. But he's
just someone you can't afford to lose. You don't have
a lot of depth at the receiver position. The Alan
Robinson situation, was it a last year you end up
cutting him loose at the end of the year. You
have some young guys who you know, you're Van Jefferson's
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and your two two at wells that you're expecting or
at least hoping to make giant leaps. And you want
Matthew Stafford to stay healthy, which he hasn't been able
to do the last couple of years. So look, give
the offensive line back healthy.
Speaker 2 (01:22:18):
That was an issue.
Speaker 3 (01:22:19):
I think they he was like nineteen or twenty different
configurations last year and there's only a seventeen game season,
so that tells you how banged up their line was.
And try naming somebody on the defense not named Aaron Donald.
It's gonna be tough, right, So it's tough for me
and I see the team all the time, so it's
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the margin for error is extremely thin for them. What
works in their favor is, as we've talked about already,
in going through the NFC, not the toughest conference. So
if those guys can't stay healthy, they can certainly keep
themselves afloat in the playoff race. But I just think
the margins too thin. The chances of Matthew Stafford being
able to stay upright for a full season at this
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point in time h is questionable. Cooper Cup has already hurt,
and Aaron Donald missed some time at the end of
last season for the first time.
Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
Yeah, what's up with What are they saying, Well.
Speaker 3 (01:23:10):
Yes, it's like it's a leg injury. It's like a
like a hamstring situation, which he's had in the past.
Uh so it's they say it's not anyto nothing too serious.
But then again, you know, a hamstring's work. A guy
can go for Vienna for two weeks and then all
of a sudden it affects him for the entire season.
And by the way, you're talking about a guy that's
had leg injuries his entire career.
Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
Yeah, short as it may have been to this point. Yeah, no,
it's true. And that stuff is it just dogs you? Yeah,
you know, it just dogs you. It's a shame, man, it.
Speaker 3 (01:23:43):
Is because he's obviously a phenomenal player, but you know,
that stuff creeps up on you and you don't have
the requisite backup behind him to make an impact. It's
gonna be a problem because outside of Cooper Cup in
the lineup, they really don't have a legitimate you can
argue they don't have a legit number two, true number
two receiver, let alone someone who can take the bulk
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of the snaps. And if Matthew Stafford is standing back
there and he's just sitting duck holding onto the ball
because nobody can get open. You know, he's a statue.
It's and they're there by the way, they're backup. It's
Stetson Bentett, a rookie. Yeah so yeah, you know, yeah,
well they like a lot, but I mean, you don't
want to throw him in, you know, in a situation
like this, no, no, no, no, so it it is
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a pseudo rebuild for them. And you know, the reports
that they tried to and there's conflicting reports, but I
tend to believe the side that the Rams were actively
looking to trade Matthew Stafford, but his cap number is
so ridiculous. Nobody in their right mind would have traded
for a guy who has had that injury history would
make sense. So they were definitely looking to try to
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start over and rebuild. But nope, there were no takers
for Stafford, so they had to bring him back.
Speaker 2 (01:24:55):
You know, it's crazy, man. It's just how quickly the
whole thing just fell. It was the one year and
they were able to get it done and then that's it. Yeah,
that's a rat. That's how quickly you can fall. It
takes no time whatsoever. That's crazy and that's just completely on.
Speaker 3 (01:25:13):
But again you talk about but they also went for it.
They paid a lot of guys. They got to be
talked about Minnesota being in salary cap hill and it's
catching up to them.
Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
That happened to the Rams. That's why they had to
cut Jalen Ramsey. You know, they couldn't re sign von Miller.
Speaker 3 (01:25:26):
They spend a lot of money and bringing in a
lot of big name guys, Marcus Peters, and so now
it comes to a head.
Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
Eventually.
Speaker 3 (01:25:34):
You can kick the can down the road as long
as you want, but eventually it's going to come to
a head. And so they're fortunate that they were able
to win a championship, and especially having to win it
in their own city, in their own building was great.
That bill that buys you at least a year, maybe
even two of a pseudo rebuild for the fan base.
But imagine if they did all that and they didn't
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win a championship and now they're stuck in the situation
they're in.
Speaker 2 (01:25:59):
That'd be a tough situation. They're also already a team
that struggles for their place.
Speaker 3 (01:26:04):
Yeah, definitely. Now it's gotten better recently and honestly for
the Rams, it hasn't been as bad as it's been
for the Chargers.
Speaker 2 (01:26:11):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (01:26:11):
The the Rams fan base is really their issue is
when San Francisco comes to town. Anybody else really it's
not so bad. But the forty nine Ers absolutely, you know,
floods so far every time they come play. But the
issue at so far is usually is bigger for the
Chargers than it is for the Rams generally speaking.
Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
Yeah, so let's let's look at this, the Niners depth chart, right,
because to me, the Niners are the team to beat, right,
we all know that's without question as much as right, right.
And you look at the Niners depth chart in front
of me, and I keep hearing great things about Trey
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Lance and you look at them and you just go
one after an X. They're just a machine. And defensively
they got better. They just got even better. Defensively, Well,
I'll go back to our grave and Armstead and the
middle man.
Speaker 6 (01:27:08):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (01:27:09):
Yeah, and Bosa. You know, once he gets into camp,
it's that that'll wind up working itself out. I'm not
concerned in the least about the defense. Fred Warner obviously
is one of the best. Trevario Sward defensively, they're gonna
be fine, But they're hearing things about Trey Lance, like
if he was that good, what do we hear more
about him, like actually pushing brock Party to be the starter?
Speaker 2 (01:27:29):
And that's who I was wondering. That's going to ask
you being closer out there, and you know if you know,
because everybody keeps just talking. I keep hearing around the
league about Lance Lance Lance, and I'm thinking the same thing, like, well,
what does that mean? Well, it's like cause Party, it's
still the starter, is right right? And Lance was the
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guy they traded up for in the first round. And
we know that money typically plays. So if Trey Lance
were really outperforming Brock Party in camp, you'd at least
hear rumblings about, hey, Trey Lance, they actually start, and
that's not being discussed at all. Like what that tells me?
Speaker 3 (01:28:04):
If there's rumblings around the league about Tree Lance about
what he may or may not be doing in camp,
sounds like somebody's trying to drum up a trade market,
which there really wasn't a robust one before the draft,
because the reports were they were looking to trade them
around the draft time and they couldn't find any takers
or couldn't find a deal that they wanted. So that
tells me they're just trying to find a way to
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drum up some interest and see if anybody can give
them whatever compensation they could be looking for.
Speaker 2 (01:28:31):
So you say that trade Lance were all that stuff
is all forul Gayzy.
Speaker 3 (01:28:37):
I mean, look, I don't have internal sources like you do,
but it just doesn't add up for me. Yeah, if
it was playing that well, you'd hear noise about him
actually being a starter, and that's not being discussed like
it sounds like Sam Donald is like firmly like entrenched
as the backup.
Speaker 2 (01:28:51):
At the moment. Yeah, which would make sense. But but
if trade Lance is lighting it up like people are
telling your sources, there wouldn't be there wouldn't be that,
That wouldn't be the case Trey Lance at the very least,
then well would be the backup, you know, at the
very least. Let's let let's see how it all plays out.
I'm curious, man, it is, but your spidey sense, listen,
(01:29:13):
I don't. I don't blame you. I mean you're very
Uh that makes a lot of sense from your standard.
I do, like me, the niners know what they don't
have in Trey Lance, and they're trying to find any
way to get him out and to get as much
value for him as they can. Sure, So let me
ask you about the Seahawks, because I like the Seahawks
at time. Yeah, well, I mean, you know, yeah, no,
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and I do too.
Speaker 3 (01:29:38):
The issue with a guy like Geno Smith is can
he can he replicate or come close to replicating what
he did last year? He didn't even have to be better,
but just can you put up similar numbers and not
take a giant step back after everybody kind of has
you know, has seen what you can do and how
you can excel in that style of offense. So that's
the big question for them, or at least for me
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when it comes to Seattle.
Speaker 2 (01:30:02):
Yeah, I like. I like how they've navigated their rebuild. Yeah,
in short order, by the way, Yeah, and taking very long. Yeah,
I think I do. Look, they're well that Seattle team
to well run franchise.
Speaker 3 (01:30:16):
Oh yeah, absolutely, And look and we talked about it again,
but it comes up because it's it's relevant salary cap issues,
and that's part of the reason why they had to
rebuild as the legion of Boom kind of aged out.
You have guys on inflated contracts. Look, Bobby Wagner got cut,
they had to clear his money, and now they brought
him back, which I thought was a phenomenal move for them.
They have good young players on the defense. You have
a veteran like him, you Chinning Nu Wosu was a
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guy that I saw out close, you know, a USC kid,
and then played out here for the for the Chargers
is a great pickup for them too. So defensively I
think they're excellent, and then obviously offensively, I thought it
was a bit of a luxury pick to take Jackson
Smith and Jigwa, but he certainly will make a difference
for them offensively. For sure, I didn't think he fit
a need, but if they thought it was the best
player available, then by all means, I mean you add
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him into an offensive Tyler Lockett and j DK Metcalf
certainly can't hurt to give more offensive weapons to a
guy like Geno Smith, so be hard to be hard
pressed to argue against it.
Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
I'm with you. I'm with you, all right. Well, it's
that'll wrap up the NFC shortly, we'll take a little
tour through the AFC. But like I have a. I
got the weekly five that I give you, and so
it's gone from the fourth to the five. I like it. Yes, yes,
(01:31:35):
that's right. I do you know what it is? I
do the five on Fridays. Yeah, my local show. So
I just figured, you know, I'm doing the four old Saturdays.
I'm gonna give you the five right to the five.
It's all good. It's so much fun, and it is
the five is this is this? I give you random
questions and you guys will have to answer them and
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then you could play along with social med and reach us.
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hit me on Twitter or X or whatever the heck
(01:32:20):
it's called today. Yes, yes, you can do all that,
and uh, we're gonna we're gonna give you the fun.
I'm gonna give you guys the questions. Right, So I'll
give you the five questions. You guys can play along
at home and we'll give it to our guys. We'll
give it to Mighty Mark and our Manhay coming up
and of course Fig. So here are the questions. I'm
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gonna give you guys the questions. Then you'll have the
break to think about it and come up with your answers. Okay,
So the question number one surrounds jersey rules. So wearing jerseys,
what is the rule? Give me some rules that surround it, Like,
(01:33:04):
I'll give you an example. One of the rules that
I came up with were the rules of band players.
Certain players are banned, like you could never wear a
Ben Simmons jersey in Philadelphia. That jersey has been banned,
(01:33:26):
so you have to fiither change the name plate or
do whatever. But even the number is kind of soiled.
So you know, you might come up with your own
band player, or it might be you know, something else.
So any rule fan rule surrounding the wearing of jerseys?
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Question number two, I need an example of fan leniency,
and that comes from last night. Trey Turner and mired
in a huge, long season long slump, gets a standing
ovation every time he's at the plate last night by
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the philophah fan base trying to tell him we got
your back. And an example of fan wrath, so fan
leniency and fan wrath. Question number three, give me two
(01:34:31):
future Hall of Famers. It's Hall of Fame weekend and
Canton Hall of Fame Saturday. Give us two Hall of Famers,
no doubt in your mind playing today, so future Hall
of Famers. And then you got yesterday was International Beer Day,
(01:34:56):
so you can recommend your favorite beer, so it's like
a bust out beer that we've probably never heard off.
And then finally I ask you to share a cheat
code for life, so people know all kinds of shortcuts
(01:35:19):
and tricks and we talk about them as being cheat
codes for life. Share it with your friends us.
Speaker 6 (01:35:30):
There it is.
Speaker 2 (01:35:32):
You're five for this Saturday. So fellas, you guys think
about your answers and we'll hit you one at a
time coming up next, and then we'll get back to
the AFC where the fellas right here on Fox Sports Radio.
All right, welcome back, fellas, hanging out with you guys.
(01:35:56):
Love it from the IRAQ dot Com Studios. He's Kevin Figures,
I'm Anthony Gargano. We got our guys, Muddy Mark, our
sound legendeer, and of course the Great Shay, our producer.
(01:36:17):
He is in Spain. And that's the crew today. I
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Instagram and once again fig A k fig Ones where
you can find me on Twitter. All right, uh, here
(01:36:37):
we go. So question number one jersey rules. So I
do want to start with mighty Mark, Mighty Mark, what's
your jersey rule?
Speaker 7 (01:36:52):
Okay, just just quiz me again on what my parameters
are for jersey rules.
Speaker 2 (01:36:59):
Now thinks you were rule. So you could do it
every which way you want to. You want to ban
a certain jerky like a band of crepe you know
a band was someone banned for the franchise. You could
do that. You could go fashion sense and say thou
shalt never talk in your jersey. That's a bad luck.
(01:37:19):
I've seen that before. The talk day jersey. You can't
do that bad luck.
Speaker 7 (01:37:24):
So I'm gonna say when it comes to jersey, since
I'm not at home, I'm gonna say, just for the
sake of this argument, I would buy a jersey, but
it would be the white black Hawk jersey because i'm away,
I wouldn't wear the red. But if I if I
bought one, i'd buy a red. But just the idea.
If you're away from where you live, Oh.
Speaker 2 (01:37:45):
Look at that just where the away where the road color?
Speaker 7 (01:37:48):
Yeah, if I'm away from where I live I live,
I'll just wear the away jersey.
Speaker 2 (01:37:53):
All right, there it is. Now. It's interesting you were
a Chicago man and of all the jerseys that would be,
you know, Bulls, Cubs, Socks, Bears, and Blackhawks. Sounds like
you want to go Hawks.
Speaker 7 (01:38:09):
Well when they come to jerseys, I mean, I you know,
white Sox jerseys. It comes down to sometimes buying you know.
Speaker 2 (01:38:20):
What you like, right.
Speaker 7 (01:38:22):
I don't want to have to search for the old,
old old jersey, old white Sox jersey with the giant
s X on it. I don't want to really to
throw back one. If I were to get one, maybe
I would get the red pen stripe suit or the
one in from the like seventies eighties with the block
(01:38:43):
letters in the block baseball batter hat.
Speaker 2 (01:38:46):
All right. I kind of like those. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's good stuff, good stuff Southsider that you are. I'm crazy, Yes,
I like it, Shay what do you think, brother? What
would be your jersey rule?
Speaker 1 (01:39:01):
So? I know some people are weird about wearing like
another man's name on their back, but what I think
is like even weirder is wearing your own name on
your back. Like getting a Dodger jersey and being like,
I'm gonna get Mogan guard on there. I don't know why,
but every time I go to the Dodger game and
I like, see a jersey you like always, I just
(01:39:21):
get like a weird ick and I'm just like, oh,
you are the worst, Like why are yes?
Speaker 2 (01:39:25):
That's it?
Speaker 1 (01:39:25):
E it, I hate it, and it's I can't do it.
It's I don't know, I don't know why, but I.
Speaker 2 (01:39:32):
Just spot on, man, that's it. That's a tremendous rule.
You can't put your own name on the on the jersey,
Like come on, I mean it's you don't play for
you know.
Speaker 1 (01:39:44):
It's cool when like they gift them to you, like
the Jonas brothers and like they'll give the Jonas brothers.
Speaker 6 (01:39:49):
Yea.
Speaker 1 (01:39:52):
If you're gonna go to Lids or something and you're
gonna be like, I want my name on the back
of that jersey, You're you got to figure it out.
Speaker 2 (01:39:59):
Man, Listen, I think you're spot on with the jersey
spot on Jay. Alright, fig what is your jersey rule?
Speaker 3 (01:40:10):
Well, this is gonna be controversial that the feeling that
I get is when people wear jerseys of someone who's
younger than them.
Speaker 2 (01:40:18):
Wow. So that's my thing.
Speaker 3 (01:40:20):
If it's a throwback, if it's a Hall of Famer,
I would just feel weird walking around wearing a Josh
Jacobs jersey. That's just it's just it's weird to me
when you have like a you know, a fifty five
year old man wearing you know, especially if it's like
a college jersey and the kid's name is on the back.
Speaker 2 (01:40:37):
Yeah, whatever reason, that just is just weird to me. Yeah,
that's it's a weird vibe. Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 6 (01:40:44):
That is it.
Speaker 2 (01:40:44):
That's a bit of it ew I can get. I
can see that interesting.
Speaker 1 (01:40:49):
You wouldn't wear like a Hurts jersey.
Speaker 2 (01:40:52):
I would know. I can't speak for for Anthony, but
that would just be weird to me. Yeah, that's interesting,
and it's weird like you know in the media too,
Like you got to understand too when you're media. Oh
well yeah, that's a nice thing.
Speaker 6 (01:41:07):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:41:07):
You can't be wearing jerseys. No, it's just that it doesn't.
It doesn't. It's not a good look.
Speaker 3 (01:41:13):
Well, if you're working media, I don't know. If you're
a media and you're a fan and you go as
a fan to a game, that doesn't bother me.
Speaker 2 (01:41:18):
Right, agreed, But no, you can't wear it even, you know,
in some kind of capacity, unless you're doing it just
for you know, for fun and want to be a
part of the crowd type of thing. Sure, sometimes you
know you're the weather man and you're wearing the jersey,
that's fine. The other thing somebody brought this up to
me was you should not wear a shirt and tie
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under the jersey, like if you're coming from work, because
people do this a lot, they'll put the jersey over
the shirt and tie. And somebody told me this. They
were like, you got to commit to the jersey piece
of it, like take off the shirt tie too, just
put the jersey on that.
Speaker 3 (01:42:02):
I understand that that doesn't necessarily bother me as much.
The tie part is weird. I feel like if you
just took the tie off but left the shirt on,
it wouldn't bother me as much.
Speaker 2 (01:42:10):
But the tie is, like why you don't under it's
like it's like shoving in people's faces, right, you know,
let me give you a let me get your opinion
on the band jerseys. Okay, do you have any band
jerseys like any of your squads? Uh? Banned jersey on
(01:42:30):
my squad, and he can think of all the time
like harm to the franchise, and you've banned there like
a Ben Simmons and you can't wear Ben Simmons. That's banned.
Speaker 3 (01:42:43):
I mean considering how I went too, to be honest
with you ended, and you know, the Super Bowl situation
in San Diego was terrible. I would have said Barrett Robbins,
but he had some real underlying issues. So maybe for
Barrett Link's old teammate.
Speaker 2 (01:42:57):
But even then I'd be like, no, not necessarily, okay,
fair enough, So I honestly, nobody comes comes top of
my where i'd say no for under no circumstances, don't
wear this guy's jersey for at least one of the
teams I support. I can think for other teams like who,
not that anybody ever would wear his jersey anyway, But
if you have a ray Kerruth jersey, you probably want
(01:43:17):
to go ahead and retire that one. Yes, you know
what I mean. You can't wear the jersey have a murderer, correct,
So yeah, yes, I'm with you. I'm with you, all right.
Question number two is this fan leniency versus fan wrath?
(01:43:39):
All right, mighty Mark, do you remember instances of fan
leniency and fan wrath.
Speaker 7 (01:43:49):
Fan wrath? I think Sammy Sosa in the cork bat.
Speaker 6 (01:43:55):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (01:43:58):
Oh that's a good Chicago one. Brother.
Speaker 7 (01:44:02):
No, that's a good one man and leniency. I guess
just all I could think of is maybe somebody like
maybe Ryan Samberg or Mark Grace, just those two guys
have not that they did anything wild or bad, but
just always clapping for those guys.
Speaker 2 (01:44:23):
Yeah, that's good. You're right, you get Grace. Yeah, you're right,
I got excellent answers. Let me go to Shay. Hello, Shay.
What do you think fan wrath versus fan leniency?
Speaker 1 (01:44:39):
Alright, I'm gonna start with wrath right here. When Raptors
fans cheered when Katie got injured.
Speaker 2 (01:44:47):
Wow, that's spot all.
Speaker 1 (01:44:49):
You're good at this game, dude, having fun, man.
Speaker 2 (01:44:53):
Good at this game. That's a great answer.
Speaker 1 (01:44:55):
No, I no, I just that's the first thing that
popped in my head.
Speaker 2 (01:44:58):
Come on, you can yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:45:00):
And then for the other one, I mean, it hasn't
happened yet and I don't even know if it will happen,
but just think about the DeMar Hamlin return game.
Speaker 2 (01:45:08):
Oh my god. Kay oh, that's another fantastic answer. Yes,
come on, that was That will be amazing, absolutely amazing.
That's a great answer. Wow. Yeah, that's gonna be beautiful.
A fig.
Speaker 1 (01:45:28):
You gotta follow up now.
Speaker 2 (01:45:29):
Fig pressures on fish coming up.
Speaker 1 (01:45:35):
I'm bringing it on, man, he ain't here.
Speaker 2 (01:45:36):
I'm here, fan fan grace.
Speaker 3 (01:45:39):
I would go to when Kwame Brown played for the Lakers,
and he had some ups and downs. And by the way,
he's just going off on everybody whenever he has a
chance now on social media. But when he played for
the Lakers, he certainly had his struggles, particularly at the
free throw line. But there were times where you go
to the line and like the Laker crowd would actually
chant his name to encourage him, and I thought that
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that was a pretty cool of them to be able
to do that. It didn't help them shoot free throws
any better, but they would change his name, and so
I always thought that was really cool. Yes, yes, and
then fan wrath. I mean, how can I not go
to the malice in the palace?
Speaker 2 (01:46:14):
I mean, my god.
Speaker 3 (01:46:15):
Yeah, Ron Artelt was just trying to take a little
rest on the table. Yeah, the cup goes flying and
then all hell breaks loose. Yeah that's raf Yeah, raft
of the eighth degree. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,
very good. All right, you guys have slayed it the
first part of the uh of this five today. I
(01:46:36):
just crushed it. I love proud of you guys.
Speaker 2 (01:46:38):
Let's hit some trending, all right, well, starting a Major
League Baseball from Friday night.
Speaker 3 (01:46:42):
The Dodgers scored five runs in the eighth inning and
added three more in the ninth and pulled away from
the Padres. They pick up a ten to five victory
in San Diego, their fourth straight win. Julio Rodriguez it
won of four home runs for the Mariners. They beat
the Angels in Anaheim nine to seven, three straight wins
there them three solo home runs for the Twins. They
beat the slumping Arizona d Backs three to two.
Speaker 2 (01:47:05):
Jordan Montgomery picking up a victory in his first start
for the Texas Rangers.
Speaker 3 (01:47:09):
Pitched into the seventh inning. They win six to two
over the Marlins Toronto, Cleveland, and Houston, with victories Houston
getting a home run from yard On Alvarez. They defeated
the Yankees seven to three. At the Women's World Cup,
Japan defeated Norway three to one. They will take on
the winner of the United States Sweden matchup, which will
take place tomorrow morning on Fox. Spain steamrolled Switzerland earlier
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the Big Ten officially welcomed in Washington and Oregon.
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All right, let's get back to the game and the questions.
We're now up to the Hall of Fame. It's Hall
of Fame weekend, and so we welcome the newest members,
the Joe Cleco. I'm very close with the Cleco family,
you know, so I love those people, and Joe is
(01:49:10):
now an ho F former Jet. Give me today two
players in today's game that you go hof all the way.
I'll start with you fig hit us with two h
o f fers.
Speaker 3 (01:49:30):
All right, Well, I'm going defense for both of these.
And one we talked about a little bit earlier. Michael
Parsons from the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (01:49:37):
Yeah, it's a great one.
Speaker 3 (01:49:39):
Guy's a beast and one of the favorites for Defensive
Player of the Year already just early in his career
and someone who's been doing it for a few years
but still a young guy too. I'm gonna go with
Fred Warner from the San Francisco forty nine ers. Wow,
it's been a monster since day one. And look there's precedent.
You know, you look even like you know the Patrick Willis.
You know, guys like that, guys who had short run
(01:50:00):
but were so great even in a short run, almost
undeniably a Hall of Famer. So those are my two guys.
I'm going to love it. Man, that's great stuff. Great stuff,
all right, Uh, let me go to you, Moddy Mark,
give me two eh show efforts.
Speaker 7 (01:50:18):
So I had to come up with this quick because
I was racking my brain. So first one, I am
team Eli Manning getting in. Yeah, I'm I'm yeah. I
think just because of I hold my nose when you
say that, I got it. I know it's not popular.
I just think based on the two Super Bowls that
(01:50:39):
he won, that he beat the colossal giant of Tom Brady,
based on that in some of his regular season play,
I just think he should get in. I don't nobody
likes that. And then the other player would be Von Miller.
I hope he gets in one day.
Speaker 2 (01:50:55):
Yes, yeah, von Miller. I like Von Miller. I like
that a lot. I do not like Eli Manning as
an h O effort, got it?
Speaker 7 (01:51:04):
I know, I know people don't like it.
Speaker 2 (01:51:07):
Nah, I hate the face. Eli was the original, So
I Eli on. He's a great guy. By the way,
I joke around. Excuse me Eli on the other last
year before the Eagles Giants playoff game and I told
him the story about how I created hate the face
(01:51:28):
from him from his face and he got to kick
out of it. He was like he was, he's a
great sport at these good people. Uh shay, give me
two h O efforts playing right now.
Speaker 1 (01:51:42):
I'm going to do a fun one with Justin Tucker.
Speaker 2 (01:51:46):
Oh, let's go, dude. That's great.
Speaker 1 (01:51:48):
Definitely think he'll be in the hall. You are next level, dude.
I like it level and this positive reinforcement. Come on,
I got to come here more often. Who needs a therapist?
And my other one, I don't know if you guys
will agree with me, And I'm hoping to god he
gets a ring before he leaves. But Miles Garrett, I
(01:52:09):
can see that.
Speaker 2 (01:52:10):
I gotta tell you, that's another one that is completely
off the the uh that I was not thinking about. No, No,
that's a great and he's a great player, right, he
really is a great player.
Speaker 1 (01:52:24):
Great teammate, great player.
Speaker 2 (01:52:26):
Like it's just had to be on my brown You
win a Super Bowl at the Browns, the whole team's
going to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (01:52:33):
Right, I mean, and it's the next couple of years
that like we have that window, so right, I mean
it's very possible.
Speaker 2 (01:52:40):
Yeah, man, I'm with you, brother, completely with you. Great.
You know that's great answers terrific. All Right, We're gonna
take a quick time out. We'll come back. We got
two questions left. Recommend a beer bust out beer off
of International Beer Day, and then cheat code for Life.
(01:53:04):
Those are the next two questions up. We're the final
two questions up, and we'll get back to it all.
Where the fellas right here on Fox Sports Radio. Why
my Man, I gotta give a yo to my Man's
Southside Chuck. The beer that he recommends, it's a locally
brewed beer called the Larry Legend, a blonde pale al
(01:53:30):
Oh dude, a Larry Legend beer. I gotta tell you,
I mean, bird is our mortal entity. In fact, Fig,
you and I both share a hatred of Larry Legend
anything green. Basically, yes, wow, the Larry Legend beer. That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (01:53:53):
And I do love a good pale al, but uh
I do too. I might have to take a hard
pass on even trying that one.
Speaker 2 (01:54:00):
Well, that's a tough one shoutside chucked for us to swallow.
It's literality. I don't know if that's happening. By the way,
Show Winning Time, HBO, Tomorrow Night, cannot wait. Yeah, we'll
dive into the Lakers and Celtics rivalry. So healthy dose
of bird magic during that era. Can't get enough. I
(01:54:21):
love it. Yeah, that's good stuff, real good stuff. Recommend
the beer, Fig, what do you got?
Speaker 6 (01:54:29):
So?
Speaker 3 (01:54:29):
Even though I know I live in Dodger territory, one
of my favorite beers is a ballast Point beer that's
brewed in San Diego. When it's a Padre beer, it's
called Swinging Fryer Ale and it's also an ale and
it's very good. And that's that is my trade beer,
my favorite beer.
Speaker 2 (01:54:46):
Awesome.
Speaker 3 (01:54:47):
Yeah, my best friends of Padre friend, we went down
to Pecko. This hat to have been four or five
years ago now and I got it and I was like,
what the hell is this and he was like, oh, yeah,
that's swinging Friar and like it's actually and it's a
picture of fry Yeah, it's like the picture of the
Padres mascot swinging a bat.
Speaker 2 (01:55:03):
If you look at the Padres, I'm going to get
a six pack.
Speaker 3 (01:55:06):
Yeah, And if you look at their logo, the uniforms
they typically wear kind of like the yellowish brown. There's
a picture an insignia of a Padre swinging a baseball bat.
And that's the picture that's actually on the can.
Speaker 2 (01:55:20):
Go dude, that's fabulous, absolutely fabulous swinging fry An And.
Speaker 3 (01:55:26):
You can only really get it in San Diego County.
I have tried to find it in La County and
you really can't get it until it gets to like
ocean sideish area.
Speaker 2 (01:55:33):
Oh wow, Yeah, that's awesome. That's an awesome beer. It's
worth the trip, all right. Uh, Muddy Mark, what do
you recommending? The Chicago style Old Style?
Speaker 7 (01:55:46):
Correct old Style? I don't drink, but either it was
going to be either Hams beer or old style, so
you can try one of.
Speaker 2 (01:55:55):
Those old styles? Is the Chicago old Chicago Beer.
Speaker 7 (01:56:01):
A thousand years ago, Hams was was the commercial for
the Cubs games, and they would have you know, the
bears walking around on screen drigging a beer. But other
than that, that was a ham you know what?
Speaker 1 (01:56:13):
And then the old style came around.
Speaker 2 (01:56:15):
Do you see Hams there. The only reason why I've
heard of it is that my dear friend Charlie Manuel,
who has been in baseball forever, former manager and a
great hitting coach, was while he was playing for the
Twins in the off season, he sold Hams beer. So
(01:56:39):
he actually tell me about Hams beer all the time.
Uh shay, recommend a beer?
Speaker 1 (01:56:48):
All right, I gotta give a quick can I do too?
I gotta give you a quick shout out to yes?
Speaker 2 (01:56:52):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:56:53):
So in Arizona, remember on our show we do yos. Yes,
Let's just let's wherever the way it takes us, let's
do it.
Speaker 2 (01:57:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:57:02):
So church music, I p A, it's this, It's this.
I p A from Arizona got really into it my
senior year of college. I haven't been able to have
it in a long time, just because I could only
find it in Arizona. But right now I'm really into
space dust.
Speaker 2 (01:57:19):
I p A. Wow, how is that.
Speaker 1 (01:57:22):
Oh, it's incredible. I mean, especially because I'm kind of
broke so I can't afford to get many beers. And
then when it's coming in at nine percent three beers
and I'm.
Speaker 2 (01:57:32):
Like, yeah, you're good.
Speaker 1 (01:57:33):
What am I doing a thirst day?
Speaker 2 (01:57:38):
It's it happens the way too much.
Speaker 1 (01:57:43):
Dude, I get you, but it's a it's definitely a
good time. Space Dust got to try it.
Speaker 2 (01:57:46):
I like it, Space Dus, I'm mad. I'm completely what's
the church clothes?
Speaker 1 (01:57:51):
Church church music. It's got a cool bottle too. It's
fun looking.
Speaker 2 (01:57:56):
I love it. I love it. Let me go right
back to you and me gave you? Do you have
a cheat code for life? Is there a cheat code
that you have a little trick that you could share
to all of us? With all of us?
Speaker 1 (01:58:12):
All right? So, I don't know how many students are
listening right now, but if you want to, uh, I
don't know if you're a parent and you want to
watch out for this with your kids. So I'm a
recent college graduate from ASU. Hopefully none of my teachers
are listening right now. But let's say that I went
out drinking a little too much and I had an
assignment due the next day, and this assignment wasn't necessarily
(01:58:33):
ready to go. What I would do is is I
would download an encrypted, like a decrypted file that was
already broken and it looked like a word document, email
it to my professor and then name it my document,
and then he would try to open it and it
would never work. So then that's the time that he
has to open it and let me know that it's
(01:58:55):
not working. I have to write the essay.
Speaker 2 (01:58:58):
Dude. It's pretty smart in.
Speaker 8 (01:59:00):
Cheap by a publicle Come on, man, that's a decrease studying,
all right.
Speaker 2 (01:59:07):
Part of me that's married to a teacher says, shame
on you, But the part of me that used to
be a student says, you're a genius. That Oh my god,
that's fabulous. All right, we'll have our cheat codes coming
up next from Mark and Figgie, where the fella is
right here on Fox Sports Radio. All right, good morning,
good morning, good morning, good morning, averybody. It's a happy
(01:59:35):
Saturday with the Fellas. Nine am in the East, six
am in the west. It is Saturday, August the fifth,
Thanks Shay, I kept saying fourth. It's Saturday, August the fifth,
on a beautiful Saturday weekend, getting you set. We're three
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weeks out from Week zero, which I know people think
it's it's crazy, but yes, week zero and the start
of college football, and the big news in college football
is the systematic dismantling of the Pac twelve conference. And
we saw a banner day yesterday when Oregon and Washington
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joined the Big ten, and that just opens up the
floodgates as then the Big twelve comes in to poach
and the Pac twelve left with just four and a
major shake on the shakeup on the landscape of college football.
We talked about it in the early this morning. We'll
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get back to it. We'll finish the five lots to do.
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Kevin Figures. We're flank bar guys. That's right. Our sound
engineers the Mighty Mark, and our producer is a great Shay.
So as we hang out on this Saturday, Fig, I
thought to you, we have talked a lot about the
PAC twelve, and you know it's interesting because you talked
(02:01:22):
about not being sentimental, not as sentimental, but it's still
you know, it's still must like give you a little
shake the fact that the PAC twelve, like this is
what you were you know, raised.
Speaker 3 (02:01:38):
On definitely, and you know you're gonna lose. And I
know that they say they want to keep the rivalries alive.
At least Washington and Oregon said that about their in
state rivals, and you're gonna lose, you know a little
bit of that, you know, perfect example, Oregon State has
kind of had Organ's number the last couple of years,
so you know, all of a sudden, your in state rival,
the bragging rights kind of go away. And even if
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you do in some semblance try to keep the rivalry
alive because of the way these schedules shake out and
you have to schedule out your non conference opponents so
far in advance. Maybe they play each other every four
years instead of every year, and that'll affect things, you know.
Speaker 2 (02:02:14):
So it's not lost on me.
Speaker 3 (02:02:15):
That there's certain nostalgia and there's certain traditions that will
be lost what the conference is expanding, But are the
conferences excuse me, re aligning? But for me, I just
want to see the best matchups, the best games. You know,
marquee teams play against each other. Being able to see
Michigan and USC be able to play each other on
a November night at the Big House is spectacular. And
(02:02:37):
outside of this is you know, you wouldn't be able
to see it outside of a rose ball match up
here and there. And now be able to see these
Marquee schools be able to face each other on a
rotational basis every single year. I'm more looking forward to
that than I'm lamenting USC making a trip to the
police since September. You know what I mean, No disrespect
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to the pollue and washing in the state.
Speaker 2 (02:03:00):
It's beautiful, but yeah, no, I mean listen, I mean
you're not. It makes perfect sense when you when you
kind of shake it out that way, it does. It
does affect the landscape of college football in the monster
way because you look at the Big Ten and you
look at the SEC, and you know it's completely two
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monster conferences. The Big Twelve gets better with Utah and
Arizona State.
Speaker 3 (02:03:30):
But in Arizona two, especially for basketball at Arizona and
the Big twelve is already a very solid basketball conference,
that a.
Speaker 2 (02:03:36):
Really good basketball conference. But when it comes to football, clearly,
you know, losing Texas and clearly you know SEC. Yeah,
you're never going to be able to make up for
the loss of Oklahoma in Texas. You know when you
lose those those schools. And now you look at the
Big Ten and the SEC and it's starting to shake
(02:03:56):
out the way. You know, we've been talking about this
for years now where I think it should just be
two major two conferences, the AFC the NFC model off
of that, and then there's divisions within those conferences.
Speaker 3 (02:04:10):
So then a lot of teams are unfortunately going to
be left out of the lurch. Yeah, you know, if
you're talking about in a few years once the ACC
and by the way, it's gonna be a long way.
I mean that granted, rights goes through twenty thirty six.
But if you're looking at your Clemsons and your Florida
States and potentially them joining the SEC years down the road,
you know what happens to your North Carolina's and NC
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states and you know, teams like that, you know, are
they in the lower division. All of a sudden, are
they even competing at the same level?
Speaker 2 (02:04:39):
Are they? Do they have a seat at the table
when it comes to the playoff. You just wonder how
that situation works. You know, it'd be interesting, is that
you then could invoke the soccer model of relegation that's
been brought up. Yes, I mean it would. It would
add all kinds. Like I think the idea of relicive fascinating.
(02:05:01):
I do. I agree.
Speaker 3 (02:05:02):
I think we won't do it here in North America,
but I wish we would. You want a way to
disincentivize tanking, right, tell somebody that they're gonna be you know,
tell the Philadelphia seventy six ers that you're not playing
in Philly. You're gonna be playing the Tulsa Driller somewhere
or whoever the main red clause and you're playing in
front of four hundred people instead of you know, nineteen thousand. Yeah,
and you're not you're not on national television every you know,
(02:05:24):
on ESPN or T and T.
Speaker 2 (02:05:27):
Yeah. Yeah, now that's spot on. Now. The issue is again,
when you're dealing with you know, the NBA, it's hard
because there's no other league that you could play in.
I mean, you're not gonna play the G League and yeah,
that sort of thing, right, Yeah, it's bibe dream. Yeah,
a college football because there's so many teams, you can
(02:05:48):
make that work. Yeah, you can create a second division.
I mean there already is a Division two, but you
know and that Division one double a stuff, you know,
you know, well, I saw those championship games twelve games
and the North Dakota States and all that stuff, like.
Speaker 3 (02:06:03):
Well, so are you roping in the FCS level too,
because I was thinking like a second division of the FBS,
but you're actually talking about your North Dakota States and
South Dakota States and schools like that.
Speaker 2 (02:06:13):
You had it again, and I have not playing this out,
but the idea relegation fascinates me. And I could see
a world where you would have a secondary you know league,
and if you have the secondary league, you could add
like you could give to those other programs which are
(02:06:35):
pretty good, right, like give them a chance to compete,
and then you would still have a lot of teams
playing in the second division and you could sell that
like that still would be good football that you could sell.
Speaker 3 (02:06:49):
And they're playing for something. If you say, if you
win the national championship of this division, then you get
to move up into whatever the main you know, college
football playoff division, whatever you're gonna call it is. Now,
the question is who who at the bottom of the
tier ends up getting relegated? How do you you know
if there's a three two, if there's five three and
(02:07:12):
six teams or whatever or whatever. I'm just making up
arbitrary you know, record, how do you determine who gets relegated?
Speaker 2 (02:07:18):
Yeah? How many? How many teams get relegated and how
many move up and down per year? Yeah, you do know.
It's a good These are all good answers. I'm not
I'm not going that deep, right, but they're kind of
rhetorical questions. But yeah, I think you can. I think
you can do it. I think it, I think it
all works, and I think that would create enormous interest
(02:07:38):
and I think you're just growing college football even more.
Speaker 3 (02:07:43):
Yeah, and it would create more interest for sort of
your your secondary level schools too, as opposed to just
totally ignoring them. You would say like, hey, maybe I'll
keep an eye on Oregon State, who's having a great
year this year, and they can move their way up
and maybe they have a sophomore quarterback who's up, and
it's like, hey, if they make it up and you know,
come back to the main division next year and he
(02:08:05):
has a good year, maybe they can make a run.
So that's not that's not a terrible idea.
Speaker 2 (02:08:11):
Yeah, yeah, well look at that when you say it's
not a yes, look at that. Look at that.
Speaker 3 (02:08:22):
I just wish we could get incorporated into the pro level.
But there's too much money. There's too the athletes make
too much. It's it's it's not feasible, and there's and if.
Speaker 2 (02:08:30):
There's one sport that it would be great, it would
be the NBA. Oh one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (02:08:34):
The NBA needs it more than any other sport because
no other sport has the tanking issue Baseball on a
very on a small level to a degree. I mean
you see teams like Cleveland, who's two games out of
first place, and they're selling guys off, which is not
the best look, but it happens more so on the NBA.
The NBA just kind of flaunts it. They kind of
throw it in your face exactly. They don't even make
(02:08:55):
a secret about it. I mean, you you lived it
in Philadelphia, you were the post of children for it.
Speaker 2 (02:09:01):
It was funny. I speaking of which I was talking
to Darryl Morey recently and it was on your show,
and that's right. Yeah, we had this long conversation and
I was asking him about the idea of about the
mid season tournament, and we talked about relegation, we talked about,
you know, some of the adopting some of the European
(02:09:22):
soccer models for the league, and he was like, all
about the tournament, right about that mid season tournament. And
I said, you know, listen, I get it, and I
think I don't be well, hold on, I'm sorry. I
was abouted. That's all right, because I was about to
like make your point because I go, like, I get
the idea of it, and I said, I would like
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it if you had some sort of other teams, like
if there was other teams involved, like international like international
All Star teams. I don't know how you put it together,
but you gotta be it's first of all, the playing
the NBA teams would have to be competitive ballots, like
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they have to be you know, some sort of equal footing,
so whether it's an international All Star team wherever it is.
But the the issue is when you're playing the same teams,
there's no meaning. It's got to be like the reason
why because he brought up Champions League and I go, yeah,
like Chams League is awesome because you're playing with against
the top teams around the world, other countries. Yeah, these
(02:10:27):
are the best teams representing their area. Yeah. So if
you did a country thing, maybe you know, and then
you know, work that way that maybe that could work.
Speaker 3 (02:10:41):
But the problem there is like all of the best
talent is already here right, Like Giannis is not playing
for Greece, you know, in October, he's here, right, you know,
if that was the eff, the talent was more widely
distributed like it is in soccer, it'd be more appealing.
But I don't want to see a guy I've never
heard of from you know, Bbby tel Aviv over here.
(02:11:02):
So the NBA team can can wax them by thirty
and even if they don't, like, I just don't know
how much interest they would be.
Speaker 2 (02:11:09):
Now, if you had, like, you know, the fact that
they're playing individual NBA teams would be interesting. So if
you had like the world All Star teams, like if
you had the Greek All Stars and the you know,
the Serbian All Stars, the Lithuanian All Stars, Italian whatever. Yeah,
(02:11:30):
and then you had you had this this international league
and they all played individual NBA teams. So now my
guess is that the competitive spirit would be better because
it's not the NBA All Stars. It's still a team,
so you still have to carry you know, your your
you know, Cavaliers would play the Greek All Stars. I
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mean maybe it would be a game.
Speaker 3 (02:11:54):
I don't know, Yeah, maybe, but I mean, I just
I think it's so the way the schedule is stat
is just so ingrained in our psyche. Like for us,
like we know what the end game is. You know,
if you're not playing towards a championship, then what are
we doing? So you're gonna pause the season or whatever
you're gonna do to play this tournament so players can
make an extra five hundred grand, which does nothing for
(02:12:15):
the fans.
Speaker 2 (02:12:16):
What's that do for the Are they going to raise
a banner? Are they going to raise a banner for
the midseason tournament? Who gives a rip? Exactly because you're
playing the same teams in the at the end, because
you're all you're gonna do is one up, is watering
down the finals.
Speaker 3 (02:12:33):
Right, and that makes no sense. No, it makes zero sense.
So and so Daryl Morey was was and what was
his selling point to you? And why is this made sense?
Speaker 2 (02:12:43):
He just liked the idea it was it was European based. Well,
and I go, I get that. Sure, it's just you know,
it's not you. But it's not the same. It's not
apples the apples. No, it's completely different. You know. That's
that's the issue.
Speaker 3 (02:12:57):
If we could find a way to make it that way,
I'll be to your point, it will be great. It'd
be different, it'd be cool. I just don't think that
there's a practical way to make that happen.
Speaker 2 (02:13:06):
I'm with you. I'm with you real quick. Let's finish
the cheat code. So when last we left, we were
finishing the five and oh Man Shay had a great
cheat code sending over the encrypted file which bought them.
How often did it buy? How much time did it
(02:13:28):
buy you? So you're on your essay?
Speaker 1 (02:13:31):
So I mean, it's different. It's some of my teachers
were lazy and they wouldn't like great stuff for months
and I would literally be like it was like the
end of the semester. I got an email, and I
forgot that, Like I even did that, and like I
had it written up, but I just like had to
go back and be like, oh my god, hrareis this,
Like I have to find this right now. But it
was literally at the end of the semester, and like
(02:13:52):
he gave the assignment like the first month in or
something like. This is the type of guy just to
do everything at the last second. So I guess it
was just creating at the last second.
Speaker 2 (02:14:01):
So what's the average? Usually it's why you get a day?
Speaker 1 (02:14:07):
Usually I got like a week.
Speaker 2 (02:14:09):
Wow, Yeah, that's a.
Speaker 1 (02:14:11):
Genius, because these causes are huge, man, and like they
have to grade all these and they have ta's and stuff,
and like if let's say, like the TA can't open it,
then they have to email the professor and then the
professor has to email them back and let them know
what they have to email.
Speaker 6 (02:14:26):
Me.
Speaker 1 (02:14:27):
There's so many And I went to school during COVID too, so.
Speaker 2 (02:14:30):
It's just oh, yeah, you forgetting that.
Speaker 1 (02:14:32):
It was a spree for people like me.
Speaker 2 (02:14:35):
Oh my god, Figgie, that's a genius. Really is really
really diabolical, man, I'm enlisting you on the team.
Speaker 8 (02:14:43):
Just wait, should I tell you about the camera stuff
we had to do. Oh just wait, I like it,
Mighty Mark. What do you say, Mighty Mark? Give me
your cheat code to life?
Speaker 7 (02:14:56):
So I'm gonna say that cheat My cheat code is
have a command of basic social skills, meaning please and
thank you, show up on time, and be able to
have be able to do general conversation with people.
Speaker 3 (02:15:14):
The sad thing is you actually have to say that
to people these days, Mark, because it's exactly necessary.
Speaker 2 (02:15:18):
You're so right, Mark, You're so right.
Speaker 7 (02:15:21):
I'm seeing now that people, Okay, there's a certain age
group that don't look at you in the eye. They
don't know how to speak with you, they don't know
general topics, or they just can't talk with you about anything.
So if a person can't command basic social skills, that
could be a great help for their life.
Speaker 2 (02:15:42):
Why should thrown to you when I could just text you, Mark,
you're talking about.
Speaker 7 (02:15:46):
Well, okay, So being able to text, you have to
type out words correct, so at least you'll be able
to talk right. But you get but but but but
within that, you don't want to look at me. So
that's a bad part on you.
Speaker 2 (02:16:00):
I'm with you.
Speaker 6 (02:16:01):
I like that.
Speaker 7 (02:16:01):
So if you're standing next to a person, you can't text,
You have to look at me and talk.
Speaker 2 (02:16:07):
I love it. I love it, Mighty Mark, you're the
mand buddy, you're the man fig what's your cheek code?
Speaker 3 (02:16:16):
So it's not the sexiest, but it's efficient. So you
have a chest of drawers in your bedroom or what
have you, trying to find a shirt to wear. You
roll out your drawer and usually when you fold your shirts,
they're stacked on top of each other. Yes, so you're
kind of flipping through to see exactly what you may
want to hang them, because then you get the hanger
messes up. Yes, you know you got those two things
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with a hanger on your shoulders.
Speaker 2 (02:16:40):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (02:16:40):
So the hack that a friend told me about, and
it's great. You actually stack your shirts vertically, so you
fold them and instead of laying them on top of
each other, you lay them back to back to back.
Speaker 1 (02:16:53):
Life change.
Speaker 3 (02:16:53):
So when you pull your drawer out, you can see
the top of the shirt and see exactly what the
design is, what shirt you want to wear that day?
And life changing is probably probably hyperbole, but it definitely has.
Speaker 1 (02:17:09):
Yeah, not one of those like pullouts under the bed.
You know that just gives me way more room now,
and it does. And you can fit more in there too,
instead of stacking them on top of each other. If
they're vertical, you can squeeze them in more. And the
logo thing, because I'll just a black shirt out thinking
it's a certain shirt.
Speaker 2 (02:17:25):
Right you can see the logo on the front. Absolutely,
that's a great one. That's a great idea, just a
great idea. Excellent, excellent. See, that's why we do our
cheek coach good stuff. All right, we'll come back, we'll
go we'll visit our man, the Big Brain, and take
a look at sports from a betting standpoint as well,
(02:17:46):
right here on Fox Sports Radio. All right, welcome back
from the tire rack dot Com studios, the fellas on
this beautiful Saturday across the At the moment, we're gonna
talk to the Big Brain and take a look at
sports from a betting standpoint. But first, let's find out
(02:18:10):
what's trending.
Speaker 3 (02:18:12):
Biggy, all right, Anthony, A couple of games are in
the books already this morning from the Women's World Cup,
Japan defeated Norway three to one, Spain all over Switzerland
five to one. Later tonight on Fox, it'll be the
Netherlands taking on South Africa tomorrow morning at five VM
east of the United States in their Round of sixteen matchup,
they will take on Sweden.
Speaker 2 (02:18:32):
That game will also be broadcast on Fox.
Speaker 3 (02:18:35):
James Outman of the Dodgers, rob Fernando Tazzis Junior of
a home run and then hit his thirteenth of the
year himself, and a ten to five comeback victory for
the Dodgers over the Padres. Seattle defeated the Angels nine
to seven in Anaheim, three straight wins there for the Mariners.
Showild Tiny struck out three times, including with two men
on in the bottom of the ninth inning. Twins and
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Guardians both one. Minnesota maintaining its two and a half
game lead in the AL Central. We met James mccandrove
in five runs against his former club Baltimore, beating New
York ten to three.
Speaker 2 (02:19:05):
Houston's won four of their last five.
Speaker 3 (02:19:06):
They beat the Yankees seven to three, Texas maintaining its
game and a half lead over Houston in the American
League West. They beat the Marlins six to two. In
NFL news, the Bengals sign linebacker Logan Wilson to a
four year contract extension, Cowboys and safety mo League Hooker
agreeing to a three year contract extension in the NBA,
the Lakers and Anthony Davis agreeing to a three year,
one hundred and eighty six million dollar extension, and moving
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and shaking in the college sports landscape. The Big Twelve
will officially at Arizona, Arizona State, and Utah in twenty
twenty four, while the Big Ten will welcome in Washington
and Oregon back to the Fellas.
Speaker 2 (02:19:42):
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Figures on the Atony Gargano got our guys, Shay and
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the big Brain, Brad Feinberg, to take a look at
sports from a betting angle. Bradley, Good morning, my brother.
Speaker 6 (02:20:52):
Good morning at me. How are you today?
Speaker 2 (02:20:54):
I am great state side. I love an American soil.
After your whirlwind.
Speaker 6 (02:21:00):
Tour, that is true, back in beautiful Margate, New Jersey,
and it was great being great thing away in Europe.
Loved it, but excited to be back here now too.
Speaker 2 (02:21:12):
Ah, that's awesome. That's awesome. Hey, real quick, just to
just to discuss. I got to ask you because Figure
and I talked about it all morning. You're a huge
sports fan, obviously college football and everything. Losing the Pac
twelve just disintegrating with now the landscape being changed so
(02:21:35):
dramatically in Oregon, in Washington to the Big ten to
join USC, UCLA, Utah and Arizona State to the Big twelve.
Do you have any sentimentality towards the Pac twelve?
Speaker 6 (02:21:49):
Yeah, it lost an anthony. Look, and I know I
me and you were kind of same era. And look,
I mean I remember going up to PAC twelve, you know,
just the rose bul Big twelve for the PAC twelve
vers the Big ten and what it used to love
that so much and just but that's just the way it's.
It's the new world, right, It's just the way that
it is. It's either eat or be eaten. And that's
(02:22:10):
kind of what we saw here with these mega conferences.
Once it kind of starts rolling downhill, either you follow
the herd or you get swallowed off and you're and
you're out by yourself U And to me, you know,
that's what we saw here. It's it's look, it's just
the way that it's been. These mega conferences with the
TV deals and whatnot, was the way of the future,
(02:22:30):
and that's that's what happened. I necessarily like it, No,
but either you know, as I said, it's the way
that it is and that you know, you know, but yeah,
I used to. Yeah, I definitely have some nostalgic for it.
Speaker 2 (02:22:42):
For sure. Yeah. You know, it's funny Todday havebout it,
the days of notre Day being it independent long all
then oh my god, yeah, yeah, the independent.
Speaker 6 (02:23:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah for sure.
Speaker 2 (02:23:03):
Well guess what we are three weeks away from week
zero three weeks. My friend, that's how close we are.
So let's go with the dock at first. Baseball wise,
what do you have for us today, buddy.
Speaker 6 (02:23:20):
Definitely a lot of stuff Anthony I did like in
baseball today. I'll give you some stuff, mostly from Rumnine games,
and I'll go over Anthony, which each game is and
there's some props. I like it's well too. First one
straight game. Look, Verlander isn't pitching extremely well going into
Nestor Cortes, who's just coming off about you know, over
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two months. Layoff, Anthony, you can lay about dollars thirty
five with Verlander. I love the four Meason right now, Anthony,
if last forty two innings, he's only allowed twenty seven
hits with a one point five ORA, so he's you're
getting the best Verlander we've seen all season in the
last seven starts. Core Test does not pitched well this
year at all, and it's his first start off the injury.
I think it's a reasonable price. I like Verlander and
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the Astors laying one dollar thirty five. I'll give you
a couple of run mind games. I like Anthony. I
love Andrew Rabbit. He's been trific all year. He's going
against Joe Adon of the Washington Nationals. I like him
with the run line. Aboton great all year, low two
r a great whip. Now Adn Anthony, he has pitched
only a few winnings this year, but last year in
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his one years where he pitched, he had sixty four
seventy six hits. But a bad key win over seven.
Cincinnati can score runs, they can score the.
Speaker 2 (02:24:34):
Best of them. Yeah, yeah, lay that baby.
Speaker 6 (02:24:38):
I think a big Cincinnati win here, I really do.
And then Anthony, Look who would have thought, certainly not
me that the Kaffrey Rose won eight straight games. I
mean that that partably had a paid a million and one.
But I like, look, Andy, you're Philly guy. Christopher Sanchez
has pitched really really well this year. He is He's
actually you could argue that the two his death starter.
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He's a whip less than one, a very low e.
Ray marsh is a blow average pitcher. I like the
Phillies with the rum line. I think this is a
get right game, get right game for them. Call it
eight to Philadelphia. I think they should win this game easily.
And then Corbyn burns with the run line against our
old friend Bailey Falter. Anthony Falter just got traded to Pittsburgh.
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Burns has been sensational, Anthony. If we have thirty und sinks,
he's only about fifteen hits and eight runs falls.
Speaker 2 (02:25:26):
Pittsburgh one last night, so you know it's a wake
up Paul, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (02:25:32):
Yeah. And I just again laying with the run line again.
Falter has been again when I'm doing some of the
run line. There's two things I'm looking at. A I
feel very confident that my picture is going to pitch
a good game. And also, just as importantly as to compid,
I can score up the opposing picture. Falter zero to
seven with an ERA over five has not pitched well
and the miners on top of it. I'll take my chances.
So I like those three run line games, and I
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like Houston. I'll give you a couple of props, Anthony.
Aaron Savali has been absolutely sensational two and a half
runs going against a bad Tigers lineup. It's eleven and
two for the season under two and a half runs
for Savali against the bad lineup. I'll take my chances,
I said, eleven and two year to date. Noah Cinderguard
under four and a half strikeouts. Don't get this line
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at all. He only has thirty eight strikeouts and sixty
one innings. He's ten and three to the under this year.
I'll always take under four and a half strikeouts for
this version of Noah Cinderguard and then Steven Matt Anthony.
They made his total six and a half strikeouts, and
I just think this is a little bit too bold
going against the bad Colorado team. But he's twelve and
three to that under. Just think it should have been
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close to five and a half, not six and a half.
And I'll give you two more Anthony Kyle Gibson over
seventeen and a half outs going at a very pedestrian
Matt's lineup. He's fourteen to eight getting six innings pitched
against the below average line up. Will take my chances
and then one last one. George Kirby Anthony under two
and a half runs thirteen and eighth this year. I
don't love the Angels lineup. I like Kerby to go
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under two and a half runs.
Speaker 2 (02:26:58):
Yeah, I'm with you. I got all I like. I
I like the A's I like because I would attack
stripling and the Giants and that a's line. They call
some kids up. They're not bad taking hit a little bit.
Speaker 6 (02:27:16):
Yeah, listen, I would certainly.
Speaker 2 (02:27:18):
Be on that side.
Speaker 6 (02:27:19):
I begin at the game. I'd rather, I'd rather instead
of taking like a dour fifty five hour, you know,
in Oakland, I'd rather take two to one in San Francisco.
But that's not the choice I get because Oakland has
really no home field to speak of. Not a game
I played, Anthony, But I do agree, to me, stripling
is always an easy said, and maybe over seven and
a half runs in that game as well, because I
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don't think either pictures that great and stripling again, it
is not a picture to me, should ever be laying
close to to one in the game.
Speaker 2 (02:27:46):
Agreed, agreed in a big way, and agreed in a
big way on that one. Buddy. Yeah, I'm with you.
All right. Let's talk a little preseason. Have you looked
at the preseason lines coming up?
Speaker 6 (02:28:01):
And I know I still shoe like all their about this.
The other day I did do some preseason stuff, but
these lines, Anthony, they moved so quickly, and I know
that's out there now. I mean, like like I had
I had played the Bears minus one and a half.
I think that lines up to three. I played Denver
manus two and a half, it's up to three and
a half, and I played Green Bay Mine.
Speaker 2 (02:28:21):
So we got a couple of games. Let's just listen.
I know them lines move, but if you would talk
maybe a general generalities and maybe there's still some still
some value. Thursday night we got two games, but actually
both on the NFL network, Houston and New England and
Minnesota and Seattle.
Speaker 6 (02:28:42):
Yeah well, look, I yeah, well, in the in general terms,
in preseason football, I think it's extremely important to the
following things. You're looking at quarterback rotation, right, because you're
gonna be playing usually three quarterbacks in these games. So
you want to see what look at you know, look,
you read your local Twitter or newspaper, whatever it is,
(02:29:05):
to see what court you know, who's gonna be playing,
which quarterbacks and whatnot. Quarterback rotation is extremely important. And
another thing answering that's important addition to the quarterback rotation
is running quarterbacks seem to have an edge in the preseason,
and I think one of the reasons for that, in
my opinion, is that you have so many second third
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stringers that don't have the speed So if you have
a quarterback that you know runs fast, and you know
some of these you know, if you have slow linebackers,
slow secondary guys that are you know, not running its
level that the starters run at a lot of times,
if I can get a quarterback that to me, for example,
the guy on the Jets down on the station and
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his name Cleeve. What was his name, Anthony? Oh my god,
I'm the street was a three port who Yeah, the
quarterback of the you know, I mean, he could run
like crazy, and he would come into these preseason games
and just run because of his ability to do that.
So I'm looking for stuff like that in the preseason.
And again also your situations like with motivation car Balls
(02:30:10):
twenty three and oh for the Ravens twenty three and oh,
that's not a fluke. That's letting you know that Baltimore
takes these games seriously. Now, you're not going to get
any love from the sportsbooks because they now know he's
twenty three and oh and they want to win those
games for guys like Sean McVay here if they go
all in for so it's really again it's I compare
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to Anthony a little bit to the NFL Draft and
the NBA draft where it's more information based when any else.
Because in the regular season, and Anthony, all these teams
want to win, but in a preseason game, you know,
it's all extremely, extremely how much the team cares about
winning a certain game or whatnot, and what the coaching
staff thinks and stuff like that, as opposed to you know,
(02:30:54):
a regular season NFL game. Again, everyone wants to win,
not so that way in the preseason.
Speaker 2 (02:31:00):
Yeah, Chris Shreeveler is the guy you're talking about, your.
Speaker 6 (02:31:03):
Right, Yeah, yeah, and you know he you know again,
guys like that, they can just it's so hard to
score points in the preseason. All these games typically go under.
And one other thing I'll say is Anthony, in the preseason.
In the NFL regular season, it's usually okay to lay,
you know, two and a half points, thinking, okay, your
less than three, you're good. Not so in the preseason
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because of the tie factor. No one wants to tie,
So these games will never go to overtime. You're not
gonna if it's a twenty one to twenty game, team's
not going to kick the extra point to make it
twenty one off. They're gonna either go for the win
or just go home the dodge, because you don't want
to risk injury. So it's much off better off of
laying the money line if you like the favorite in
the game, instead of laying two and a half points,
(02:31:46):
I much have rather lay dour thirty five because these
games land one or two far more in the preseason
because they do in a regular season.
Speaker 2 (02:31:53):
Answer me, Yeah, it's a good question. I don't want
to ask you because we were barking on football soon
and it's uh, if you're gonna bibe and play games.
Nowadays you can play money lines all day long. Yeah,
is it worth it to bet money lines in lieu
of spreads?
Speaker 6 (02:32:11):
I mean in the preseason, Anthony, in the preseason, absolutely, Again,
for the reasons I said in the preseason, the games
fall one and two much more than doing the regular
Jason again, because they don't want No one wants to tie,
So because no one wants to tie, we're always going
for two. So the game usually just doesn't land on
for you. Again, as I said, I it was a
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if a team's down.
Speaker 2 (02:32:34):
By what about the regular season?
Speaker 6 (02:32:36):
Regular listen, it always spends look most games laying three. Again,
it's it's it's all mass based. Anthony, a three point
favorite in the regular season is usually about a dollar
fifty five dollars sixty favorite with the money line. Okay,
that's just what it is. Because math wise, these teams
usually went about sixty percent of the games. What I
would always say, Anty, and the best thing to do
(02:32:57):
is shop all these games with your look of sports
books or whatnot, you know, and and fee because there'll
be Varian says. Now, if every single person with the
spread has a team minus three, okay, there's no difference.
But with the money on, Anthony, if if I say
three sports books minus a dollar sixty and you're able
to get one that's minus a dollar fifty, then yes,
in that case, the money line absolutely has more value
(02:33:20):
than minus three. Laying minus one fifty is better than
lang minus three lang minus one ten.
Speaker 2 (02:33:26):
Yeah. Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 6 (02:33:28):
So yeah, there's your question. It can be, but it
comes down to shopping because again you just have to
have you know know what each point is worth. And again,
if you can, as I said, if you can lay
three lang one, you could lay minus one fifty in
a game of s laying three linus one ten, it's
a better way to do it. So yes, they're absolutely
be money value at the money on the.
Speaker 2 (02:33:46):
Last thing in facts, Bro, the last thing I want
to I want you to address because I thought it
was really interesting you said the betting markets with preseason
is a lot of information based. Yes, and I find
that it's so interesting. So when you're talking about these games,
you've already played your lot for this week's preseason games
(02:34:07):
because you're collecting all the information you can about playing
time and then you're making your decision in how you're
playing the game.
Speaker 6 (02:34:18):
Yes, and that's exactly right. And I also there's other
pro betters that I follow who are extremely tuned into
the preseason and again and when they also release the game, Anthony,
you have i'd say about thirty to sixty seconds before
the line moves like crazy. You probably and the line
will move like three four points in these preseason games.
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In the NFL regular season, Anthey, you won't get moves
like that at all, because these lines are a lot
weaker than they are on the in the pro game
even once the regular season starts. Once the regular season starts,
seve lines are efficient. You need with us a top
handicapper releases the game, maybe it'll move a half point
or a point at max and the preseason, Anthony, because
these lines are not nearly as sharp. And this is
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why you get limited in preseason betting, Anthony, because the
sportsbooks are not confident in their numbers. If you if
you look up to a sportsbook and try to get
ten thousand dollars on a preseason game, then look at
like you have four eyeballs. Okay, during a regular season game,
no problem, But they don't want your business because again
it's not a deficion and you could have better information
(02:35:20):
on these games than the sportsbook for the preseason. That
is not the case for any regular season game.
Speaker 2 (02:35:25):
Anthony. Yeah, that's great stuff. That's why you're the big Brain. Brother.
Listen to have a great week. All right, good luck
and we'll talk to you next Saturday.
Speaker 6 (02:35:35):
I appreciate you. Say good luck to everyone out there.
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:35:37):
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it's fun day. We didn't get to the AFC, which
kind of purposely because I won't save that for next week.
Doing next week, got plenty of time. Yeah, we'll do
the big deep dive into it. This is our time, man,
(02:37:20):
because August you start to get in. We have a
couple of preseason games on Thursday and then Friday and
then Saturday and Sunday to a full slate in football.
And I don't know about you, Listen, I know the
games will me anything and everything else, but having them
on is great and it's a good reminder.
Speaker 3 (02:37:39):
Yeah, a reminder of what's coming. It's kind of good
background noise to a degree. And you know, sometimes you're
you have some young kids, some draft picks that will
get to their first action. You're eager to see how
they may perform. I don't know if Bryce Young is
gonna play for Carolina or not. I would think probably won't,
but at some point in time, i'd imagine he's gonna
see some action here in the preseason just to kind
of get his feet wet with infl action. So I
(02:37:59):
do look for seeing guys like that get on the
field against the NFL level competition.
Speaker 2 (02:38:05):
You know, it's it's crazy, man, just when you think
about it and the change of it, like the change
so rapidly from you know, you know, it's not like
you got to go back to the Baldy days. I
was talking to Brian Baldegger about it. Nine preseason games.
You're right, he's ridiculous, right, I think it was six,
but still you're right. I mean he played seven one year.
(02:38:25):
That's you got seven preseason games. Yeah, he had to
report July fourth. God, yeah, it was insane and now
and two of days in the Texas heat, right, like
I mean, think of that pads full come, none of
that stuff, none of that stuff. You take care of
your bodies. I'm hurt just thinking about it. Yeah, right,
(02:38:46):
oh my god. So nowadays much smarter, they're working and
uh it really it'll it'll save it'll save guys and
m but still preseason fun just because it's football. So
that's gonna do it for us. Guys, have a great week.
We love you, thanks for hanging on. To see you
next Saturday.