Buck & Fitz Await the Kiffin Decision, React to NFL Thanksgiving Action & More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
I'm just trying to make sense of what takes so
long to announce a decision.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
We knew last night after the egg ball.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
That we would get some sort of or at least
we thought, some sort of decision on what everything was
gonna happen with Lane Kiffen and whether or not he
would remain at Ole Miss or whether or not he
would become the coach at LSU. And instead we've spent
all day waiting for more information.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
And I just don't know.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
At some point, how many hours can it take to
make a decision At some point, how many days do
you need? At some point, don't we all have to
move on? Most importantly, at some point, don't we get
to talk about anything other than Lane? And the answer
to that is not until he tells us what's going on,
which we still don't know. He's Buck rising up Jason
fitz bucking fits Fox Sports Radio, hanging out with you

(00:54):
on a Fox Sports Saturday, and Buck, I thought for
sure by six pm Eastern on the Saturday show, we'd
start by talking about Lane with LSU, or what it
means for coach to not coach their team in the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Or what it meant for Ole Miss.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Did they manage to keep their team their coach with
the playoffs, like all of these different variables, But instead
we sit here in the worst spot we could possibly be.
We're still in no man's land. Like, dude, we have
no idea what's going to happen with a college football
playoff team and with their head coach. And we are
at that point now where to me, it's just become
beyond exhausting.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
And here I thought we were going to open the
show with the egregious and terrible snub that was committed
this week. And I'm sure, of course all of you
know what I'm talking about, where Alex Earl was robbed
on Dancing with the Stars. She should have won the
Mirror Ball. I don't care if Steve Irwin's son is
charismatic and exciting and all of these things. It was

(01:47):
a snub fitsy and Braxton Barrios hasn't been to one
taping of that damn show controversy in one of the
biggest relationships going right now. I thought that's where you
were going.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
This show is still I really genuinely didn't know Dancing
with the Stars was still on. This is this is
amazing like Steve Irwins, Steve Irwin's kid won.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Is that that's okay?

Speaker 4 (02:07):
My sister made me watch this weather, so yeah, I
was surprised as well. My sister really was like telling
me that Alex Earl was going to win.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Is it on like regular TV? Ors Are it on
like just.

Speaker 5 (02:21):
Months?

Speaker 1 (02:22):
It's it's it's must watch television on a Tuesday night.
Shame on you, uh for not participating in the rest
of the country's dialogue. Again, there is controversy or uh
derision being created between Texan's wide receiver slash special teamer
Braxon Barrios Alex Earl and the relationship because he has

(02:43):
not shown up for a single taping. Shame on him
for not taking time out of his football season schedule
to go watch his girlfriend dance with another man. It's
it's it's all over the internet fits all over the place.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Much like Lane Kiffin, I'm still dumbfounded by the fact
that Dancing with the Stars is still on.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
I no one idea like you've given me.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
This controverts I feel Look, this is a me problem,
not a you problem, I will admit, especially this time
of the year, I just become eyes gloss over to everything.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
I'll admit that book like I've missed out on this.
I expect full breakdown.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Let me know who the worst and the best were,
and is this the least deserving champion since Bobby Bones.
That's the only because I am old enough to remember
when Bobby Bones broke Dancing with the Stars because everybody
clearly knew he couldn't dance, but he still won the
thing because he was very popular. So you know, I'm
just I don't know. I feel like I've been missing.
I didn't raise as Alfonso Roberto is still the host.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yes he is, Yes, look at this. He looks fantastic
so much like Alex Earl. And the snub is the controversy,
the drama being perpetuated on the internet for much of
the population, largely the female population, for the man the
soap opera, and for sports fans, it's Lang Kiffen and

(03:54):
my eyes gloss over on both of these things because
I'm just I don't care anymore, Like I just I
want to know where is going and I want to
be done with it. I don't know if LSU being
up ten to three over Oklahoma, right now has an
impact on where a Lane Kiffin might go. I don't
know if the egg bowl ass kicking yesterday where And
I'm not sure if I can say the word that
Lane Kiffin was called on the radio? Am I allowed

(04:15):
to me? And that is that a you.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
Know, I was wondering that myself, actually, But we will
have we will have that answer by the end of
the segment.

Speaker 6 (04:21):
Don't say that yet, I'll say that.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
I won't. We can talk in terms of gardening tools
if we like. But I am over the entire Lane
Kiffin experience because it just it's become, it's taken on
a life of its own. We are talking about a
not important thing. It's important in twenty twenty six where
Lane Kiffin coaches, and I understand why it's important for

(04:44):
LSU and Ole miss and Florida potentially who are sounds
like narrowing narrowing things down to the two Lane coach
John Summer all according to Pete Thamil's reporting today. So
maybe LSU is getting boxed out of a potential candidate.
If Lane just decided, yeah, you know, I'm good, I'll
stay at or whatever he ends up doing at this
point in time, It's been exhausting, and it's most exhausting

(05:07):
because it is about the less important thing, which is
Ole Miss. Who the hell is going to be coaching
them through the playoff at this point in time? They
are going to make the college football playoff? Is that
what we're still waiting around trying to figure out if
the athletic director is going to allow Lane Kiffin to
both take one job in the same conference at a
rival school. I know Ole Miss and LSU aren't necessarily rivals,

(05:29):
but you understand what I mean without the sec or
are we going to have a coach or a team
coached through the playoff? Bite Joe Judge potentially after having
the ride that this Ole Miss team did and coming
out and dominating their rivalry week opponent the way that
they did. I have no idea. All I know is
my eyes glaze over equally with the Dancing with the

(05:51):
Stars result and the Lane Kiffin drama because it is
not about football and important football is being played all
over the country today.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Well, I think where my eyes don't blossover a is
that most of the results we're getting today, I don't
think they're going to have huge actionable impact to the
college football Playoff Committee. I would argue, as I had before,
that Vandy could beat Tennessee by seventy today and that
wasn't gonna make a difference in Vanderbilt's college football fate.
What's alarming to me is when I hear Marty Smith,

(06:20):
a good friend and a great dude, but when I
hear Marty Smith talking about the fact that you know,
right now he has spent the day he being Lane
Kiffin with the staff preparing a game plan for Georgia
in the SEC Championship game, And it's like, well, wow,
who's even gonna be left on this staff if he
chooses to take another job, Because it's not just Lane,
it's anybody else that Lane is taking with him that

(06:41):
becomes part of this conversation. So I think part of
the reason it becomes baffling to me is that you
can't pretend to go about business as usual today if
you are ole missed knowing that whatever is being implemented,
whatever game plan is being worked on, whatever their plan
of action is, will look wildly different in a matter

(07:01):
of hours should he take another job. So, how in
the hell are you prepping for another game? Not even
just a playoff. How are you prepping for another game
right now? If you don't know who your staff is
going to be.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
It's I guess the It's really difficult, right because Lane
doesn't call the plays, does he?

Speaker 3 (07:21):
I'd buy? I think you know what? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
I'll look it up. I thought he'd I don't believe
he does, at least not this year.

Speaker 5 (07:28):
More.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Maybe it's gonna murder me for not knowing this off
the time. No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
I think this is a fair question because, well, just
given the dialogue that you're having right now about how
could you possibly prepare a game plan? Of course, the
difference between Lane Kiffen calling the plays and not calling
the plays in this situation would be critical because I
don't know the answer to that question fitsy. I assume
it's the way that NFL teams, the Giants and the Titans,

(07:52):
two teams that have fired their coaching season and kept
the rest of the staff around. You just go about
it as business as usual, and you try and plug
the holes wherever the holes might pop up. If if
Lane is in fact the play caller, and I want
to say that he's not, because he looks at least
on uh. In the shots of him on the sideline

(08:15):
during Old Miss games that I've seen this season, he
does not look like somebody who's actively engaged. I mean,
obviously he's participating. He has the ability to nix a
call if he doesn't like it or something like that.
But I don't believe he's actively calling the place this year.
I could be wrong.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, No, it looks like you're correct. It looks like
he chimes in, but he's not. Actually, Charlie Weis junior
has a primary play calling duties. So sure somebody that
he would presumably be taking with him to his LSU
staff has a primary play like.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
That's where this just gets really Yeah no, that's the
only part of this. Who else is going with him? Right?

Speaker 3 (08:47):
Look?

Speaker 2 (08:47):
And that's the thing Buck like, I mean, I think
there's a fair and reasonable without attacking him the way
one reporter chows too and maybe maybe feel a little
personal too, I think there's a fair and reasonable I
ask you, well, I mean, okay, look, I think there's
a fair and reasonable way to ask what's the hold.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
Up on your decision?

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Because at some point you can't be afraid of commitment
and be a college football coach.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
You just gotta go.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
You got to decide what you're gonna do, and you
got to go. And I realized that this is not
an easy decision. I'm not pretending it's an easy decision,
but at some point, you just sort of hit the
line in the sand, don't you. I mean, it isn't
there a point where Lane Kiffin has to know, like
there's no new data that's going to come to Lane.
So do I really want for my favorite college football team?
Whether I was an Ole Miss fan or an LSU fan.

(09:35):
I mean, I saw his tweet and I believe it
was is. I didn't dig through you know how Twitter
is hard to figure out, but his tweet basically showing
the egg Bowl trophy and saying, wish that, you know,
wish I could talk to my dad here before I pray.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
Blah blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
I get all that, But like, if God hasn't given
you an answer yet, like what exactly? Like at some
point you can keep asking God out all day long
to answer your questions, but at some point, if he's
not answering, you got to make a decision on your own.
And if he he is answering, you got to interpret
it like we are at that spot where it's like
I get it, you want to talk to your mentors,
and I get it. You wish you could talk to
your dad, and I get it, you want to talk

(10:08):
to God. In fact, I would argue that there are
hundreds of thousands of people across the country today that
will make important decisions in their life the exact same way. Right,
They're gonna do the exact same thing. But at some
point you gotta make a decision. And so like, you know,
I get that he wants to talk to his mentors
and talk to God. But also if I'm all missed
or lsu, I've given you my sales pitch. There's nothing

(10:29):
else I can say or do at this point. You
know the money, you know the situation. You need to
grow up and make a decision.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
You know this news is going to come out at
six fifty five Central time, right right when we're a biscuit.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
That's not right that you know what that I thought, Lane,
don't do say it.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
I didn't say you're a biscuit, son of a biscuit.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
It's like, oh no, yeah, I mean I I don't
know what could possibly be again, this higher thing for
as much information and for the thirst for information as
we have as a society, whether it's sports, news, political
or otherwise. The fact that nobody's got any indication, no

(11:14):
real indication. Right. There's been some talk for many weeks
now that Lane till LSU is a done deal, and
it may be a done deal. But I just think
that if we're still here almost what twenty four hours
removed from the egg Bowl, where the athletic director says
there's going to be clarity following the egg Bowl, and
there's still no clarity, that makes me think that Lane

(11:36):
is still undecided, which is an insane thing, an absolutely
insane thing to consider that Lane Kiffen with so many
different people's lives hanging in the balance, beyond just his
and his family, because of course you have to make
the decision that is best for you and your family.
But Fitsy, the thing that you brought up is there
are staff members who are probably looking around, some who

(11:58):
are probably looking up really State and Baton Rouge as
we speak. Some are trying to figure out whether they
have to put their home on home in Oxford on
the market. Right. This is this is so there are
so many tentacles to this thing. And it all comes
back to Lane and what he wants to do, and
the fact that nobody seemingly Lane Kiffin has a concrete,
a definitive idea of what this man wants to do.

(12:22):
At this point, with the playoff looming, I just think
it gets to be a worse and worse look for him. Now,
if he goes to LSU, he wins the national Championship,
is all of this forgotten? Probably so yeah. But in
the meantime, we're dealing with an unprecedented situation that nobody
seems to really know how to handle other than Kirk
Kirk Street begging and pleading the ole Miss administration to

(12:42):
let Lane coach through the playoff because the team, because
the players deserve to have Lane Kiffin on the sideline.
What if Lane's like, I don't want to, I want
to get ready for my next jobs. It's just an
entire different can of worms that could be opened here.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
It's a mess.

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Speaker 3 (13:16):
Somebody tweeted me a conspiracy theory. I've heard many, many.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Times, a theory about why we don't know where Lane
is going next and why it could actually impact one
of LSU's biggest rivals.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
So tell you what it is and we'll get Fox
thoughts on it next. Whoo oh man, I'm bringing out
the conspiracy theories next. He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz.
We're hanging out with you on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
I should also just tell you book I was on
Dancing with the Stars twice, played it with the band.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
There's my fine. We'll get back to this conspiracy theory
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Go ahead, go ahead, tell them what you said. Mary.

Speaker 5 (14:58):
She said, y'all are nasty.

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No, no, no, that was not the phraseology. That was not
the phraseology.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
I mean, but she's not wrong.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
I mean I was listening to that and I was like,
this is both wildly accurate and weird to listen to
all at once.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
Like that's my favorite region, either that or the one
where Buck just calls everyone fat the fire right one.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Oh. The funny thing is like I feel it all
the way to my pones.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
I can't feel it.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
My poems like when you.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Get that thing stuck between your back teeth, it's just
it's a problem.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
It's problem.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
So I I kind of love I love that this
got it got real buck, I feel good about it.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Wait, why why is it nasty? Mary? How do you
get popcorn kernels from out of your teeth?

Speaker 8 (15:38):
Well?

Speaker 6 (15:38):
I was a braceist kid, so I didn't eat popcorn.

Speaker 5 (15:41):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
I don't. You know.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
It must be nice to be so rich you can
have braces curling up. I mean some of us didn't
have these elitis.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
No, imagine having imagine having poverty teeth till the point
where you need braces.

Speaker 6 (15:56):
Wait a minute, hold on, did you just say I
have poverty teeth?

Speaker 1 (16:00):
I was mostly referencing, referencing fitsie, but.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Also, okay, that's a you know, alright whatever his buck
risings elitism is undefeated. Uh you know which is which
is fine because he's never been on Dancing Stars, Keith.

Speaker 6 (16:13):
But you're eating at Golden Corral.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
O h, he is eating never.

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At Golden Corral, Pony, there was not very inexpensive.

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Taste buds, buff fist palled up right now, Yeah, you're
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Speaker 3 (16:36):
Yeah? Do you wait and go?

Speaker 2 (16:37):
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a discount book if you go like, is there like
a yeah, there's like old man's smell time where it's like, hey,
you know what, they just give you a sniff when
you walk in and if you have the right old
man smell, you get a seat.

Speaker 6 (16:50):
Is that how that is?

Speaker 1 (16:51):
That?

Speaker 3 (16:51):
How that works?

Speaker 1 (16:52):
But I'm at such a disadvantage because Mary has the soundboard,
so it sounds like she's nuking me. But really I
like bombs, I've won rap balls, I smell the life.

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got a tweet from Adam in the last segment as
we were talking about the delays and announcement from Lane Kiffin,
and here's the tweet. I've seen this on social media
several times. Buck, I'm going to give you this tweet
to do it as you see fit. I haven't told
him what this tweet says to. Well, what it gets
your original reaction, just your off the cuff reaction. Adam

(17:41):
tweets Alabama loses tonight, their coach takes the Penn State job.
Kiffin goes to Alabama. He's waiting to see what happens
with Alabama Auburn before he announces anything.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
What say you, sir?

Speaker 1 (17:55):
I want the kind of drugs that guy's on.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
No, don't we all?

Speaker 1 (17:58):
I mean that sounds delightful. I mean, I suppose it's
a Saturday for everybody else. FITZI and I had to
work this evening so we could not start imbibing the
way that most of America would do on Rivalry week.
Or I'm assuming people are just still drunk from Thanksgiving festivities,
which I come to discover is really only a Northern
thing that people booze this hard at family Thanksgiving. It's

(18:20):
very much not I mean, God knows, I haven't done
a Thanksgiving in ten years. Not to get on my
air and Andrews high Horse. But for purposes of working
in sports, the holidays are not respected. Well, they're respected
on television, they're not respected by the sports leagues where
practices and games are required to take place over the holidays.

(18:41):
But that point notwithstanding, No, I mean, there's no way,
shape or form where Lane Kiffen would be in a
position one where Kaylen de Bor would get fired. Kaylen
de Bor has done enough. Alabama looks more fraud I'll
grant you that Alabama.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Has What What if Kayln just wants to pen Stae up.
What if Caitlyn looks around and says, you know what,
I don't need Betty and Alabama calling for me to
get bought out of my contract every year Bama's not
worth it, and he just takes the Penn stage job.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
Oh I I'm just trolling Bama today.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
No, but he can't get out of the money, right,
I mean, there's way too much money tied up in
his contract right now. The idea that Penn State, who
I mean they albeit they just got off the hook
for paying James Franklin the full freight of that what
was it forty mil or around forty million dollars? I
think they're going to end up eating about nine in
firing James Franklin and him taking the Virginia Tech job

(19:32):
as opposed to the full salary that he was owed.
But they're not going to buy Deboor out just to
pay him again, that didn't make any damn sense.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
That's fair. That okay, that is fair.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Also, why are you trying to breathe life into that stupidity?
Stop it?

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Because I like just flaming everybody up a little bit.
I like just getting everybody angry. This is the one
part of the logistics that I think for anybody that
because I've seen this theory on Alabama several times, the
number of hoops that would have to be jumped through
in order for Lane to take that job is something
that would put all of these announcements on hold for days,
maybe a week. I mean, it would take so much

(20:07):
time to figure out how one coach is getting out
and then what it means for the other coach, and
then a renegotiation process. Like I just think the schematics
of that, Like there are no backroom deals right now
with Lane if in Alabama, simply because if there were,
nobody could keep a secret. Like if Thamill had a
backroom dealing, there'd be in some sort of moment here

(20:27):
like if Buddy Garrity, like if your Friday Night lights
backer has already paid it.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
Somebody's leaking this somewhere, And frankly.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
I think if Alabama just wanted to kill the deal
with LSU, the easiest way to do that would be
to leak anything substantial that shows that you've actually got
a deal working it with Lane on your on the side.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
So when you actually stack the bricks of logic, I
don't think it gets there.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
I think though, part of the reason this runs rampant
is a college football fans are undefeated with conspiracy theories,
and b nobody can really figure out why it's taking
forever to get an announcement, so then we start grasping
its straws.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
No, that's the thing. The more time that passes, the
more that the environment can foster this kind of nonsense, right,
because there simply is no good reason why Lane Kiffin
hasn't declared one way or the other which job he
wants to take or stick with. There is no reason
that makes sense that it would drag on this long

(21:20):
that I mean, are we going on damn near a
month of Kiff and watch at this point in time.
It's outrageous, and I just I can't fathom what the
athletic Department must be thinking it'll miss allowing this to
drag out. I don't know what the hell they were
doing making that statement in the first place, putting some
level of expectation on the egg Bowl that there would

(21:42):
be a decision coming one way or the other, when
Lane Kiffin has been an I don't want to say
an uncontrollable variable. I think that Lane Kiffin is represented
by Jimmy Sexton, and Jimmy Sexton has a formula, right,
and so this is not something that is just It's
not It's not going to be without calculation or without
thorough thought and planning and preparation and all of these things.

(22:05):
So that's why when they put the statement out there
the way that they did that there would be a
decision announced after the Egg Bowl on lane Kiffin's future,
it didn't make any damn sense to me. It was
like Olmoss was trying to retake control of the narrative,
a narrative in which they have absolutely no control.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yeah, it's all of this is just so broken this
whole process. Like I said, I believe to you on Thursday,
my biggest hope was that we got an answer directly
after a Wednesday. My biggest hope was that we got
an answer directly after the egg Bowl so that it
didn't LRD over.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
An entire Saturday. And that's exactly what it's done. Now.
That's far Beau.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
It's completely taken up all the oxygen around such a
fun weekend of college football. Everything has been about Lane.
For God's sakes, Marty Smith is somewhere in America still
on Lane Kiffin Watch. Let that man have a break
and watch actual football.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yeah, and that's for everybody that wants to tell me
Lane Kiffin has changed and Lane Kiffin is different, and yeah,
I think you've got to bend over backwards to try
and find that in this moment, because it certainly feels
like the same ego driven I must be all of
the oxygen in the room, sort of drive for attention
and all of this. And if you want to argue
it's not him, it's his agent, I will. My counter

(23:19):
argument to that has always been is somebody that's been
lucky enough in my life to have agents in every step.
At some point your agent represents you like you can
sit there and blame your agent all day, but also
that's why you fire your agent. If your agent doesn't
represent you the way you want to be represented, then
you fire your agent. So I'm not gonna put all
this on Jimmy Sexton. I'm not gonna put all this
on the calendar of college football right now. What it

(23:42):
appears from the outside looking in, we have is a
grown ass man incapable of making a grown ass man decision.
And it's really hard, and no matter what, it's win win,
and no matter what it's lose lose. But at some
point there are so many people impacted. He just needs
to make a decision. All right, Oh good, well, look,
hold your thought. Let's get an update. Hold your thought,

(24:02):
don't go anywhere. We'll get an update from Martin, and
then Buck has something brilliant he will share with the world.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
We'll do that next. But first, Mark Weiskus is caught
up showing on.

Speaker 5 (24:12):
Washington. Just found the end zone.

Speaker 9 (24:13):
Extra point pending, but they've cut the Oregon lead to six.

Speaker 5 (24:17):
It's now nineteen to thirteen.

Speaker 9 (24:19):
Demond Williams to Boston for a thirteen yard touchdown catch.

Speaker 5 (24:23):
At nine minutes left in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 9 (24:26):
Again, extra point pending there, but that's Washington's first score
of the second half. With just under thirteen under twelve
minutes left in the fourth quarter, Lis, you just converted
a third down. It's now ten to ten, second and
five for the Tigers as quarterback Martin van buren Is
completes another first down for this against this Oklahoma defense,

(24:47):
John Matziir has three interceptions today. Oklahoma offense has not
been able to get things going.

Speaker 5 (24:53):
Vanderbilt and Tennessee.

Speaker 9 (24:55):
Right now, the Commodours with the lead and the ball
thirty one to twenty four with just under twelve minutes
left in the.

Speaker 5 (25:01):
First fourth quarter.

Speaker 9 (25:02):
Diego Polavia fourteen for twenty three, two oh seven through
the air and a touchdown, ADS once h sixteen carriages
for one to fourteen on the ground. Earlier today rivalry
we we saw number one Ohio State beat Michigan, Ohio
State remaining undefeated twenty seven to nine. Julian Saying two
thirty three through the air and three touchdowns. Bo Jackson
had one seventeen on the ground. Texas Tech demileis West

(25:26):
Virginia forty nine to nothing BYU with a forty one
to twenty one win over UCF eleventh ranked Cougars and
twelve ranked Hurricanes. Miami trying to sneak it to the
college football playoffs. They beat Pittsburgh thirty eight to seven
earlier today, cars it back with three touchdowns.

Speaker 5 (25:42):
Fellas back to you, all right.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Buck you we're gonna say something here is we're breaking
down the why of still having Lane involved in this
conversation where I cut you off?

Speaker 3 (25:51):
What did you have?

Speaker 8 (25:52):
No?

Speaker 1 (25:53):
I apologize because I know that we have the update
to get to, so I didn't want to run through
it that way. But I was just thinking, like I
watched game day to day, and I watched a lot
of the pre and half and studio coverage from ESPN,
and this is not it's not related to ESPN. These
people just happened to be on ESPN because ESPN is

(26:16):
broadcasting these games, and obviously the Lane Kiffin a great
deal of these games, and Lane Kiffin has obviously taken
up a lot of air and it's polarizing. It's a topic.
Obviously we've spent you know, the first day, near thirty
four minutes of the show talking about Lane Kiffin where
no decision has been made, and we've been doing this
for week after week after week. But I'm watching game
day to day, and I don't have a problem necessarily

(26:41):
with Sabin or Herb Street or Booger McFarlane defending Lane
Kiffin's right essentially to coach his team through the playoff
the way that the three of them, and I'm sure
they're not the only three, but those are the three
biggest examples that I saw today. I've got no problem
with that if that's the position that they want to take.

(27:03):
But I I almost have to do the what aboutism
of what if it was Trinidad Chambliss, the quarterback of
ole Miss? What if he's got a fat and il
deal somewhere on the table somewhere else, but for whatever reason,
the decision has to be made that Trinidad Chambliss will
transfer or will commit to transferring before ole Miss goes

(27:24):
into the college football Playoff. What would be the dialogue
around a player doing this exact same thing, holding everybody
else hostage as they make their decision here, how whether
he would leave his current school and skip the Rebels
games and the upcoming college football playoff? Like whatever that
would look like, on the player's side of things, how

(27:45):
in the world can you justify defending Lane Kiffin when
I know, damn sure to a man, all three of
those people and the rest of collective college football media
would be crushing Trinidad Chambliss because they'd throw their hands
up in the air and say, Oh, it's just another Niko,
somebody who's trying to over leverage his position. It's a
it's a greedy athlete out to get what's theirs, or

(28:06):
it's a greedy family of an athlete out to get
what's theirs. Everybody else be damned. I just don't know
how the two how we can exist in a world
where that is turned a blind eye to on Lane
because remember the whole Lane Kiffin is is projecting rehabilitation right,
both professionally, personally, all these different things. Hell, ESPN just

(28:29):
recently did the did you watch the thirty for thirty
on Lane? It's basically, I.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
Know, I'm familiar with it. I just chose not to
watch it.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Okay, it's a it's a disneyfied version of a redemption story.
And that's fine. Like if Lane, if Lane has truly
changed so many of those different elements that made him,
you know, frankly a bit toxic as a person en
route to being the person that he is today. That's great,
but ESPN has also lent themselves to the narrative that

(28:57):
Lane Kiffin rehabilitated, great guy now all these different things,
and I'm not saying that that can't still be true,
but it's just I don't know. The conflicts are everywhere
in this discussion, and maybe maybe it's just the fact
that nobody really knows how to handle this situation. But
I can't. I can't help but look around at the
coverage at this and just be like, something doesn't pass

(29:19):
the sniff test on this, not just what Lane's doing,
but all the different voices behind Lane or around Lane
or projecting on behalf a Lane. I just I don't
like it.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
I mean Nick Saban sitting here saying Lane should be
allowed to coach. Nick Saban also did not allow Lane
to be his offensive coordinator when Lane took a head
coaching job, right, So the hypocrisy everywhere is just it's
gross why And I'm willing to admit that part of
what makes this difficult is that nobody knows the right
way to handle this as I'm stressed before, and we

(29:50):
should stress to anybody. So I've gotten a ton of
text from this from buddies that are just casual college
football fans when they say why not let him coach
in the playoffs. Part of the reason that becomes wildly
difficult is that National Signing Day transfer portal window. Those
are all things that are about to open up. They
all happen in the next two weeks, right, so, all
of a sudden, while Ole Miss is preparing for the
college football playoff, Lane would have to then be recruiting

(30:13):
kids to go play at LSU. And if LSU is
paying him ninety million dollars, they're not paying him to
build a program over the course of the next several years.
They're paying him to build a program that is competitive
next season. And in order to do that, he's going
to have to stack his roster right now.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
Now. For everyone, including Nick Saban that said on.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Game day, you just changed this calendar, number one, that
wouldn't impact today, right, There's nothing they could do about
this now. You could try and change it in the future.
But number two, if you move the calendar back to
after the national Championship game, to make it the time
for signing and transferring. You've missed the enrollment window because
these are still teams affiliated with colleges, so they're already

(30:52):
into the semester. So you can't suddenly enroll somebody a
month and a half into the semester. That's why the
calendar is what it is. So there's no easy solution
to this. The system is simply broken. And now or
everybody says, yeah, yeah, you gotta let him coach out
the playoffs. You got to do that. Okay, Well, he's
if he takes the LSU job. He's taking the LSU
job because he's getting, according to reports, ninety million dollars

(31:14):
to go do at s LSU. Right now. What he's
built in ole Miss, he's not going to have three
months or two months or however long to wait to
start this process, you know what I mean. Like, he's
got to go get to work today and every day
he's in the ole Miss facility where he's actually about
to be the head coach of LSU. Every time he's
talking to a kid in his locker, you gotta wonder,
is he talking to him about this game or is

(31:35):
he talking to him about next season?

Speaker 3 (31:37):
Is he talking to when he's like.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
This, this is just this is part of what makes
this type of stuff.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Come on with me, boys, We'll go win a Natty
at LSU. We've reached our ceiling here. Let's take our
talents to baton ruers that would be creating.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
And that's but that's that's why this is all. There's
only one real solution. If Lane Kiffin is going to
be the coach of LSU, he needs to quit and
he needs to go become the coach of LSU. And
if he's gonna do that, there's no easy way.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
To do that. There's no good way to do that. Buck.
But the way we're watching it isn't right.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
I'm not gonna pretend to know the best way. But
anybody that's ever had to quit a job, anybody that's
ever had to leave something, it's a very difficult situation
to do.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
But you just got to rip off.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
The band aid and make the jump, and maybe everybody
around you doesn't understand it, and maybe frankly, everybody around
you doesn't like you for it. I've left successful projects
and people thought I'd lost my damn mind. And sometimes
you just have to deal with the fact that like, hey,
people are gonna see me some kind of way. I
got to do what's best for my family. Lane's got
to stand up at some point and announce what that
decision is, because this dragging everybody through the mudget isn't

(32:43):
fair to anybody involved in the process.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
I wonder if that's not the biggest sticking point right now.
I mean, we've talked around it to some extent, but
the idea that maybe ole Miss wants him, and again,
this is just a complete hypothe This is not obviously
reporting or any kind of information that's that's worth, you know,
thinking of other than what if, right, what if all

(33:11):
Miss wants him to coach through the playoff, And unless
he was like, hell no, no, he's got to get
started on this job tomorrow, yesterday. No, I don't want
the coach that I'm getting ready to hire. I wonder
if that's not the biggest sticking point in these negotiations,
because I dude, like, I mean, I'll go, I just
have to imagine that Lane had I'm sorry to interrupt you, Fincy,

(33:32):
but I just have to imagine that Lane has that
he's not completely soulless, right, that he's got some level
meaningful level of investment in what he's been doing at
ole Miss for these past what five years, and in
this roster and the most success that they've had as
a college football program, and that at some at least

(33:53):
at some part of him wants to see them at
least finish the job, whatever the job looks like, whether
it be a Natty, whether it be a playoff win,
whether they get won and done whatever, versus the LSU
component of it, which is like, why do we care
about what Ole Miss wants? We want our coach and
we want him now, especially if we're going to pay
the kind of money that is being rumored to be
potentially paid to Lane Kiff and go ahead.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
When I was playing for another country artist and I
got the call to see if I wanted to tour
with the band Perry, I had to leave that the
next day. I literally had to go do a VANM
Parry show the next day. But I knew it was
the gig I had to have. It was the better gig, right,
it was the better opportunity. And the funny thing is
I went to the band at the time, the management
with the band, and I was like, hey, let me
give two weeks a notice so they can audition somebody

(34:34):
and put somebody else in my seat. And the band
came back and they're like, no, we have to have
a fiddle player. We're going to have a new fiddle
player on Saturday. So it's either going to be you
or it's going to be somebody else. We'd love for
it to be you, your first choice, but if not, we'll
go down the roller decks like that's just the way
life works.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
Sometimes.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
It is very possible that Lane, even if he wants
to give two weeks notice, for example, in this situation,
in the real world situation, he may want to play
out the playoffs, but LSU has every right to turn
around and say not if it makes more difficult for us.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
And that's why there's no easy answer. We'll keep breaking
this down.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Plus we did get some actual football on the field today.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
Of note, The question is will any of it changed
the way?

Speaker 2 (35:10):
There is one game that we now know is on
the calendar that is not getting enough hype. I'll tell
you what it is next. He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason
fitzbucking Fits on Fox Sports Radio. If you're listening to
Fox Sports Radio Radio, it's fucking fits hanging out with
you on Fox Sports Radio. I think it's important before
I make this statement book that I remind everybody that

(35:32):
may not have listened to us in the past. I
do not care about anybody's favorite college football team. I
don't have a favorite college football team. I don't have
a favorite college football conference. I think it's bored to
remind everybody of that, because certainly there's a long standing
conversation about the biases that exist at ESPN. As somebody
that was fired by ESPN, that would be me. If

(35:54):
there's anybody that and the cup. I hosted College Football Live,
I was part of Game Day, I was in college
football conversations every and like, if there's anybody to come
out and tell you, Wow, there's a big anti whatever bias. Boy,
I could grow my following and make a bunch of
money if I just came out everywhere and told everybody
that these things exist. They don't like all ESPN and
most people care about it is just making money, right,

(36:14):
So when I say this, I'm not saying it with
any concern about what biases people believe exists, because I
don't believe they exist at all. That being said, We're
about to get a big ten championship game that is
number one versus number two.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
And I genuinely believe if it was.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
The exact same situation and it was Georgia versus Texas
A and M, it would be the over. Like we
would have been talking about the possibility for weeks. We'd
be talking about what it means every single day. We
would be turning.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
Around every day and blowing up, Oh.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
My god, I can't believe one v two sec matchup. Well,
one v two is Ohio State versus Indiana.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
One v.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
Two is the only two teams.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
This year in college football that have looked pretty untouchable
if you look at the course of the year, one v.
Two is clearly the two best teams in all the land.
That's what we get for a conference championship game. And
it just I'm waiting for the sizzle. I see the stake.
I don't hear the sizzle.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
No, I would say that it's as it's as lacking
drama as any kind of situation, any kind of scenario
that you could find for this in particular, right, what
did we spend Wednesday evening talking about when we were
filling in for Mark Harmon and them. It was the

(37:33):
idea that Michigan and Ohio State, and could Michigan do
it for a fifth rate time, and would Ohio State
big brain their way out of a game plan that
plays to their strengths and try and play the way
that Michigan does when they've tried that before and they've
had no success doing it at least in these last
four tries. And what did Ohio State do today? They

(37:55):
went out there and they completely negated any conversation around
mission again in upsets and drama and problems for the
number one dog in a country, because they went out
there and they smacked him. Indiana was never going to
struggle with Purdue, but there was nothing to be There
was no There was no juice in Indiana Purdue in
rivalry week anyway. It was fifty six to three in

(38:18):
West Lafayette yesterday when the old oaken Bucket was won
by Indiana and Kirk Sidnetti put together a second double
digit win season and undefeated season at Indiana, something that's
never been done before. And because Signetti didn't say anything,
you know, flashy, or didn't take a shot at Ryan

(38:40):
Day or Ohio State or anything like that the way
that he was kind of prone to do last year.
We just kind of roll our eyes and say, okay,
one versus two in the Big Ten Championship game, let's
talk more about Lane. That's why I'm annoyed by the
Lane Kiffin thing, because I think there is good football,
actual football dialogue to be had there beyond the Tea
MZ of it. And because Ohio State Indiana has zero

(39:02):
TMZ element to it whatsoever. It seems that people are
just content to, you know, let let the time pass,
let the game play out. Okay, winner moves on and
loser still makes the playoff or whatever the case may be.
And all right, we had a good run. Somebody's got
to take on an l here, unless you know, God forbid.
I mean, obviously college football in a situation like that

(39:24):
can't end in a tie. Oh Vanderbilt is scored again.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
Yeah, there's sure. You're right though, Like, think about this
one v.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Two Big Ten Championship game is going to be the
best win in the country for anybody whoever wins Indiana
or Ohio State.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
It will be.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
And if right now, your argument is well, Ohio State
hasn't played anybody, or your argument is Indiana hasn't played
anybody that gets changed with the conference championship on the
line like that level to me of the opportunity for
Indiana in this game, particularly to change the way we
feel about the entire program going into the College Football Playoff.

(40:00):
Stunning like that, to me is just such a big statement.
Right and again, like we sat here, I watched that Texas,
Texas A and M game. I'm pretty surprised to see
Texas A and M come out as flat as I
thought that they looked at times.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
I we'll break it. We'll break more down next hour.
Bucket Fits Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Rivalry Week is really so far just a bunch of
butt whoopings.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
But there has been one surprise that could shake things.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Up in the College Football Playoff, and that comes in
the form of Texas, Texas A and M.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
He's buck Rising.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
I'm Jason fitz Bucket Fits hanging out with the Fox
Sports Radio as you just heard the update from Martin Wise,
we are getting one thorough hoopin' one thorough took behind
the shed. Made him regret even showing up in this
right now in a rivalry game, that Buck knows well
covering it in Tennessee. Vandy's absolutely just clobbering Tennessee right now,
which would excite me because I love this sort of

(41:01):
weird way that you know teams can get into the
college football playoff conversation. But the reality of it is, Buck,
that door was likely shut loudly closed. I mean, Vandy
needed a bunch of chaos anyway to try and get
into this thing. But part of the chaos we've the
only real chaos we've seen so far today was Texas
doing the unthinkable and taking Texas A and M to
their only.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
Loss, which doesn't help Vandy it off.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
So I'm watching the best version of Vandy I've ever
seen in my lifetime, realizing as this afternoon goes on
that it's very clear they won't be part of the
college football playoff conversation. But man, at least they put
a wrinkle in this whole thing.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
Do you disagree, well, I mean, if we're talking about
eye test stuff and listen, Tennessee is fraud. Tennessee's defense
is bad, objectively bad. They're down their top two corners
basically the entire season. Not to make excuses for them,
because This is awesome for Vanderbilt, deserved by Vanderbilt, and

(41:55):
for whatever you thought of the way that he looked
Pavia in Tuscaloosa when he turned the ball over in
a game that was closer than the final margin would indicate,
or when he went to Austin and did not play
well but then rallied back to make it a one
score game with twenty one points in the fourth quarter,

(42:15):
for him to go to Knoxville, which is where this
game is being played against a ranked Tennessee team. FITZI,
I'm assuming you've been to a game at Neeland at
some point.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
Oh yeah, yeah, a few times. Yeah yeah, amazing.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
Neeland Stadium, I would argue is the most hostile environment
in all of sports. I would put it up there
with Death Valley at night. I would put it up
there with any venue, any sporting any program, and he
at least in the continental United States. I don't know.
I can't speak to you know, Premier League soccer and
things like that, because I know that gets rowty too.

(42:48):
But in terms of what Tennessee is, what Niland Stadium is,
and what Vanderbilt has been, which is always little brother
in this state, the most meaningful game in the state's
history between these two pro and this game has been
played for over one hundred years. For Vanderbilt to be
up forty five twenty four at the two minute warning,
I don't think Diego Pavi is going back into the game.

(43:09):
I think he's done for the day. Seventeen to twenty seven,
two fifty three. He had a touchdown through the area
at a rushing touchdown as well. He's put up nineteen
attempts for one hundred and fifty nine yards on the ground.
He's averaging eight point four yards per carry two interceptions
early on, but he has battled back. Man. I don't

(43:30):
know if we didn't just see the Heisman Trophy winner
go out there and get the job done. I know
Julian say and put it on Michigan today. I know
that Fernando Mendoza is an awesome story. But what has
happened at Vanderbilt if they are truly to consider the award,
I don't think that you can make an argument that
there's a better college football player in the country than
Diego Pavia. As he puts a bow on his regular

(43:52):
season here. And maybe they don't make the playoffs, fine,
but this is. This is I don't want to make
a moral victory talk, because it's not moral victory. It's
ten wins at Vanderbilt as a ranked team for a
for as long as they've been in the top twenty five,
which is something that never happens for them to be
able to play in this game. He's being congratulated by

(44:14):
all manner of people who just want to be there
to witness it. Associated with Vanderbilt's program. They've showed him
on the television broadcast with Tim Korb and the Vanderbilt
baseball coach who's a national championship. He's just up up
there wapping up Jordan Matthews, the longtime NFL wide receiver
slash tight end who played at Vanderbilt, Like this means
so much to that program, and they are I have

(44:37):
no idea where they are without him. I know it's
not here. If you are making an argument for anybody
definitively to have their Heisman Trophy moment, the resume that
Diego Pavia has put together here, I think he should
win the award.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
It's tough for me because this year we don't have
a clear favorite at the same level we so often
do and you mentioned Fernando Mendoza. It should be pointed
out that now voters cannot submit their Heisman Trophy ballot
until after conference championship games. So I think what becomes
really interesting is that Fernando Mendoza, to me, who is

(45:16):
currently the shortest odds in most sportsbooks to win the award,
is one or two things happens.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
Right, he goes.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
In to a Big Ten championship game against Ohio State
and plays lights out and all of a sudden he
cements his victory. Or he goes in and I could
easily see this happening as well, he throws three picks
and all of a sudden if he throws, if he
has a particularly bad game and Ohio State turns around
and beats Indiana, then you have to wonder what it
means for everybody else. But then the other part of

(45:45):
it is like that I think becomes a little complicated
when nobody has necessarily separated themselves to the same level.
Is that jeremih Love, the running back for Notre Dame,
has been absolutely electric. What do I do though, And
just being genuine here, I hate comparing previous seasons to
this season. Very different situations. Jeremiah Love, while absolutely wildly

(46:06):
incredible this year, and I just think one of the
most impressive players we've seen throughout the course of the
college football season. That's not a hot take, right, but
Jeremiah Love did not put up nearly the numbers that
we saw Ashton Genty put up last year. Right, So, like,
Jeremiah Love is the best running back in college football
this year, it's not even close. And he's been incredible
this year, but Ashton Genty had another worldly year last

(46:26):
year and he didn't win the awards. So like, sometimes
I think these comparisons get really tough. They must get
tough for voters to try and figure it out, because
like in this year's college football environment, there just haven't
been that many Heisman moments.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
Maybe you're right, maybe this is the closest thing we've
had to a.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
True Heisman moment because Ohio State just hasn't played anybody. Like,
what's the main moment from Ohio State that everybody says, Aha,
Like if you believe that that was Ohio State or
if you believe that it's Alabama, Well, Alabama's gonna have
to have that moment tonight.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
And you're right, Diego pave is having that moment right now.
I don't think it's an accident.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
By the way, up forty five to twenty four, with
the minute thirty to go, they're still Paden stats like
Diego just ran the football after throwing the football. They're running,
they're trying to get down the field. I think they
want to make sure the number is as huge as
possible for Heisman voters and for the College Football Playoff Committee.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
No, I think you're absolutely spot on. I'm frankly, I
guess I shouldn't be surprised to see him go back
in there. I thought that his day might be done.
But they are going to commit to this. And also,
I mean, Tennessee has had its foot on Vanderbilt's neck
for basically their entire existence. I mean, I'm sure you
could go back and find more competitive games in the
nineteen twenties or nineteen forties when Vanderbilt was playing reasonably

(47:39):
high level football, when last Vanderbilt was playing reasonably high
level football. So I'm sure there's an element of let's
just put it on Tennessee too, Otherwise they would Otherwise
they would be kneeling this thing out. Even though all
both programs have or both teams have all three time
timeouts left. Nobody's taking one at this point in time.
They're just continuing to run plays for Vanderbilt in a

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third and two situation.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
Now, did you see the rushing yards here in the
second half, Tennessee has negative six rushing yards.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
Vanderbilt has one hundred and seventy three.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Those are the moments that I think become really important
when you start talking about the College FOOTBA Playoff Committee.
Because I've told you this before, I'll say this one
blue in the face. They want teams that can control
the line of scrimmage. Most committee members I've ever talked
to when I've been on the mock committee, all of
these things, those committee members seem to consistently stress the

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same thing. They want teams that can dominate line of scrimmage.
That's how they consider a team to be great. That
we've gone final now forty five to twenty four. With
that win, I think the rushing yardage is going to
be a real part of this because as we came
into this segment and I said, remember, Texas got the
most impressive win of the day. So if you're vanding
now you need a chaos in front of you. You're
probably not getting chaos in front of you. There's no

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way you're making to the College FOOTBA Playoff, but you're
certainly trying to make sure that you end up being
on everybody's mind for the most impressive win of the day.
I think they may have, especially when you talk about
the line of scrimmage stuff. It's a shame this Vandy team.
I think you know this is just the way it's
going to go. There's going to be a team every
year that finishes with a couple of losses that we think, damn,
they really deserve to be in the College Football player

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If you can't tell me Vandy isn't better than whoever
the ACC champion is, whoever the Group of Five champion is.
It's kind of a joke this year, the way the
system is built for fairness for everybody, that we just
don't take the best twelve teams.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Oklahoma, by the way, just squeaking one out. Speaking of
things that Vanderbilt could use to happen seventeen to thirteen
at home over LSU. You want to talk about style points,
I know they're not going to They're the number eight
team in the country fits. They're not going to drop
out the way that they've kept winning games, but for
the way that they've looked now they can beat teams

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in those kind of games, and maybe that is to
its own credit or to their credit, that should be
considered a different kind of style. Points that teams can
make it dirty and ugly, or they can play dirty
and ugly games and still find ways to eke out victories.
But if you want the best entertainment value, and I
understand that it's not about entertainment value, it's about the

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resumes that they've built and the things that they've done,
and the places that they've succeeded and where they've fallen short,
and how that measures up with the rest of the competition.
I know that entertainment should not really have a place
in this discussion, but I want Vandy in the college
football Playoff over a bunch of teams that are probably
going to make it. I'd rather see Vanderbilt at this

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point than Alabama, who is getting ready to kick off
here in about what a little more than fifteen minutes
from now. I'd rather see Vanderbilt in than Oklahoma. I'd
rather see Vanderbilt in than Oregon. I could go down
the list if just in terms of teams that are
going to put on a show and actually give you
the best version of the college football playoff. Vanderbilt absolutely

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belongs in that discussion. They're showing the picture of him
doing the shot of him doing the Heisman Trophy after
he ran his touchdown in earlier Pavia the Heisman Trophy celebration.
I just don't know what the argument is like Notre Dame,
for example, Okay, Notre Dame's resume versus Vanderbilt's resume. Can

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you make an argument that Vanderbilt should be ranked higher
than Notre Dame. I think it's quite easy to do,
so that's not gonna happen. But they're being dinged here
for the brand on their helmet as opposed to who
they are as a team and what's gotten them there,
and that's gonna make a lot of people insane. I
know there's not a lot of Vanderbilt fans across the country.
They're creating more by having success and having a player,

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as you know, just brilliant as Pavia is. So I'm
sure the Vanderbilt fan base is growing with each passing week.
But man, I just I don't know how you can
keep them out. I do know how they are going
to be kept out, but I don't think in good
conscious that you can keep them out well.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
And so much is going to depend on what happens
as of now because BYU. Because of the outcomes over
the course of the day, we now know that the
Big twelve Championship game next weekend will be Textas Tech
versus PYU. If Texas Tech wins that game, then that
will essentially knock BYU.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
Out of most of this conversation.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
Currently they're eleventh ranked, but they would be there's a
bid thief that would take that from. Where it gets
complicated is if BYU wins, then they have to get
a bid.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
So there's the chance that the tenth, eleventh.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
And twelfth ranked teams by the committee could all miss
the college Football playoff. And you mentioned Notre Dame, who
sits currently at nine. Well, Miami beat the snot out
of pit. That was the last time they'll be on
the field. Miami has a head to win win over
Notre Dame. So there's gonna be controversy through all of
this no matter what happens over the course of the weekend. Unfortunately,
for the huge win that Vandy just had today, there's

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just no runway. I think that gets them no matter
what happens, Even if Oklahoma loses today, even if Alabama
loses today, there's too much still ahead of Vanderbilt. So
I think their season has basically come to an end,
and now they'll have to feel motivated playing in a
bowl game that's far beneath what they had hoped to
considering where the season was just about a month ago.
All Right, we'll keep breaking down any of the outcomes

(52:58):
we get. We'll talk a little bit Alabama too, and
what's actually on the line with the Iron Bowl. But
coming up next, we got football on Thursday, and as
a result of all the NFL games, it might be
time to call some of these turkeys cooked in the NFL.
We'll tell you which teams were giving up on next.
Buck Rising Jason Fitz Fox Sports Radio can't wait to

(53:19):
get his take on parades. He's Buck Rising Bucket fits
on Fox Sports Radio. I saw people on Instagram reels
that kept coming up that were down at the Macy's
Day Parade that were stunned to find out that there
aren't commentators that you can hear when you're standing in
the street, to which I was reminded of just how
stupid most of the world is, Like what did you
think that, Like the City of New York just put

(53:41):
speakers everywhere to blast the commentary of the announcers along, Like, No,
you're standing there watching a random Spider Man balloon go by,
and you're just lucky to get to damn do it.

Speaker 3 (53:50):
Like I don't know, but all I can think now
is Buck Rising, show.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
It up early, because you know you got to get
that early seat to get to the Macy's Day Parade's
a Buck's there at like.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
Six point thirty in the morning, bundled up.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
He's cold, he's angry, he's hungry, and then he finds
out that it's total silence for two hours while balloons
go by.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
I don't know how you feel about that.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
So you think I'm stupid that I would not assume
that there was no you know, provided commentary in the
middle of the Macy's Day parade. Also, it's like when
you go to a museum, right and they offer you
those little devices that you can you can take the
guided tour. Maybe I don't know, maybe the people that
are attending the Macy's Day parade assume that such things

(54:29):
would be provided to them. Are like sports fans who
are still wearing their little AMFM radios at games right
to hear their local play by play commentator. I run
into that at Titans games all the time. For the
people that are still dumb enough to be attending Titans
games at one and ten at this point in time,
I am. I'm not a parade person. What's the last

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parade you've been to?

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Championship parade for the Vegas gold Knights. It was the
last last parade? I would you bet? I will say this.

Speaker 3 (54:58):
I kind of like this. You've stumbled on a a
beautiful idea.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
Maybe we take people that just aren't that famous anymore
and we relegate them to side street commentary in New York.
So like Kathylee Gifford doesn't get on the actual broadcast anymore,
she's just sitting on like the corner of whatever, Like
forty second, she's just sitting over there doing her own like.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
Got a little little lamp out, like her little one setup.
Just that block.

Speaker 5 (55:20):
Here's it.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
So every block you get a different Oh man, that's
the local weather guy from Austin that everybody likes, you know,
like there we go, like, let we let c lists,
celebrities come in and commentate different streets along the parade route.
That's say this is fancy and no. By the way, Buck,
to be clear, I don't think you're stupid. I think
you would just presume that somebody would have told you,
like you would show up and be like, wait, y'all

(55:41):
didn't tell me that there's no sound at this Like
I think that you're just enough of a vacation princess
that you wouldn't have put the thought into it one
way or the other, and then you'd be surprised if
somebody else didn't explain it to you.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
Correct. That's why I don't. I don't do I don't
do vacations without having somebody, you know, write the itinerary
for me and tell me you're supposed to be here
on this day and there on that day and those
kind of things. Yes, I like that vacationing for dummies.

Speaker 3 (56:09):
Now look, I'm in for all of that. Like that.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
Thank God for AI. All right, So you and I
we talked on Wednesday. On Wednesday night, we were hanging
out on Fox Sports Radio from ten pm to two am,
we let them the midnight bells hit, and we talked
a bunch of Thanksgiving food, right, But also also we
talked about the games coming on Thursday and the consequence
of the actions.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
Right.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
So we now have in a world where three teams
that everybody wanted to buy into as absolute Super Bowl contenders,
all three the holy Trinity of losses, the Ravens, the Chiefs, the.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
Lions, all three lose on Thanksgiving Day.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
So I know you were Titans practice and then you
were stuff in your face with all sorts of Thanksgiving food.
But along that route, which of those three teams did
you suddenly throw your hands up the most to and
say I'm out on this team.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
It's gotta be the Ravens, right, I mean six and six. Now,
Lamar looks just out of it. I don't Lamar Jackson
is not stinky, all right. That's it's so distrusting.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
He just looks sticky. He just looks stinky.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
He is he is displaying the behavior of a stinky quarterback, right.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
He's the behavior of a stinky quarterback.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
Is. I just don't know how they fix it. The
offense just looks out of place and yeah, I mean,
how many fumbles did they end up with? Five? I
think if I mean, if you're Dereck Henry, you're losing
your damn mind at a certain point because the ball
security in that game. And Derek's had some fumbles this
season too. Let's let's make no mistake about it. But

(57:46):
I just the Chiefs still have enough. I think it
was a close loss against the Cowboys, and the Cowboys,
to their credit, like I don't think the Chiefs lost
that game. I think the Cowboys went out there and
won it. Now, you can't go two full quarters if
you're Kansas City without scoring, which is what they did.
They had fourteen points in the first quarter, they had
fourteen points in the second and the fourth quarter, to

(58:06):
at least make it appear closer than it actually was
and to make Dallas sweat it out a little bit, right,
But they got the job done. For Detroit and the Packers,
this was as commanding a performance as I think Green
Bays had on offense all year long. And Detroit is
I mean, they're not a bad football team, right. They're
seven and five, though, and they're fraught in a division

(58:30):
where the Chicago Bears. I didn't even think maybe you're
just keeping it to the Thanksgiving Day games, because if
you were talking about a holy trinity of losses, I
would not have put the Lions in there. Ought to
put the Eagles in there twenty four to fifteen against
the Chicago Bears at home, no less, coming off that
Cowboys implosion of a loss for Philadelphia. I'm sure the

(58:50):
again the sports talk radio in Philly this week is
to just be toxic acid, bath level stuff. Baltimore is
the team that I would be most worried about, though,
because if Lamar can't get the requisite help that he's
not getting, and also he's going to play as not
the best version of himself, then they have no chance.
They can't they can't survive in these games. And that's

(59:13):
not a glowing endorsement of Pittsburgh either, right. They could
end up nine and eight or eight and nine and
potentially win this division, for as messy as it figures
to get down the stretch, we'll see if Joe Burrow
can't make life a little harder for them, because again
the Ravens and the Bengals have to play a second
time in these next what six games I guess for
them five games that there is remaining, But Baltimore is

(59:35):
the one that would stress me out the most if
I was a fan of that team.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
Well, I think in part because of who they lost to.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
Like, you make a really good point that Philadelphia, this
guy is falling for the Eagles. Now, it's okay to
admit right now, even defending Super Bowl champions. I'm the
one that I feel like every week comes out says
they'll get.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
It right, it's gonna be fine.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
Then I just watched the Bears go out and control
the line of scrimpers.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
They ran the football over him.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
It was just it was it was weird to me
book to watch a team physically dominate the Philadelphia Eagles,
and that's what the Bears did. So that's concerning and
certainly to your point, the Lions offense just doesn't have
the rhythm it usually has and green Bay looked really good,
but that's losing to Green Bay.

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
I'm not gonna fault for lovers to Green Bay.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
And by the way, the Cowboys might be a hell
of a lot better than anyone thought the Cowboys were
gonna be. And the Chiefs continue to have their issues
trying to find any balance. YadA YadA, YadA, all these things,
like I can. I can compartmentalize each of those losses
to find the why you lose to the Bengals. And
it's not just that you lost to the Bengals. I'll
even give you gave up thirty two points to Joe Burrow.

(01:00:42):
I'll even give you that man, Joe Burrow stuff to stop. Okay, great,
we could go down that path. How do you only
score fourteen points on that defense?

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
That's the problem with the Ravens is that the offense
is broken if you watch it, the eye test is broken.
And I know Orlowski has done some really nice breakdowns
on some of what is clear medically that it just
like Lamar is not himself right now, and obviously anything
less than one hundred percent of Lamar and the Ravens
feel broken, but they don't have any of that factor

(01:01:09):
that scares anybody right now. For them to look so
inferior to the Bengals all around, I think is the
most shocking part of it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
Now. The other part of this is Cincinnati's defense is
allowed to play better. Right. This is kind of that
Auburn Vandy conversation. We were having a couple of weeks ago
where you were on Vandy's ass about sweating it out
in overtime against an Auburn team that we had fired
their coach. No, I mean, I listen. You're entitled to
point out when a winning team is keeping it close

(01:01:41):
with the losing team, as Auburn was. And I think
it's also fair to say that Cincinnati's defense is playing
better football in these last couple weeks. Now, that doesn't
forgive them for the first two months of their season, right,
they have been one of the worst defenses in football,
and in fact, so much so that Mike Turico and
Chris collins Worth on the call of that game, did
a whole bit, a whole produced bit with graphics and

(01:02:03):
everything about the Bengals defense being burnt to a crisp Right,
they had fire extinguishers, and then all of a sudden,
they're forcing three and outs on Lamar Jackson and the
Ravens defense. So how to find kind of the balance
between All, Right, the Ravens had a bad day, but
also the Bengals defense had a good day, and which
one is more at fault there?

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
So what I this is in order to not be
a prisoner of the moment. This is my new thought process,
my new thought exercise. Right, instead of looking at teams
in one week chunks, I try to look at teams
in three to four week chunks. Right to your point,
defenses can get better, offenses can get better, teams can
change if I look at a three or four week chunk.
This for this Bengals defense, Yes, they just won a

(01:02:48):
really impressive game. Look at the month before that. They
gave up twenty six points to the Patriots. That's not bad,
They're very good. They gave up thirty four to the Steelers,
who suck. They gave up forty seven points to the
Bears in the game they absolutely, inexclusively lost, and they
gave up thirty nine points to the Jets. So if
I'm looking over a month, yes, the Bengals had a

(01:03:09):
really good day. But if I have to make right now,
if I have to bank everything I own on whether
that's a statement about the Ravens or the Bengals, if
I look at a month entirely, I think it's a
statement on just how meh the Bengals are, which means
the Ravens are even more meh offensive.

Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
It's broken, It's just broken.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
Yeah, but in this in this recency biases, uh is okay?
I think when it comes to this specific fact, what
let me let me pull up the game book just
so I'm citing specific things here and not just free
ball if not free balling, but freestyling, I suppose is
the term that I should use. Yeah, So five fumbles

(01:03:49):
by Baltimore in this game, okay? Uh, okay, five fumbles
is an out or excuse me, four fumbles and all
four of them lost, Now, so that can be good
defense by Cincinnati that prevents Baltimore from cashing in opportunities
on offense? Does that mean that Baltimore's offense, because they
fumbled four times and lost all four, is inherently broken?

(01:04:13):
I think there's evidence to say that there's something not
right with the Ravens offense. But can we say, in
a one game sample size where recency bias must take precedent,
that if they don't fumble four times and lose all
of them, or even if they fumble half that much,
or even if they recover half of those that we're
talking about at least a substantially different outcome. Sure, but

(01:04:34):
we can't because in that one game they fumbled four
times and lost all four and it turned into a
blowout in ways that it had no business being a blowout, right,
So I think there has to be Yeah, I understand
what you're saying about the context and not being prisoner
of the moment, But I think it's okay to be
prisoner of the moment when you say, yeah, why didn't
the offense work? Well, they fumbled four times and they
lost all four. There was no way they were going

(01:04:55):
to win that game.

Speaker 3 (01:04:56):
Yeah, you're not wrong about that, Martin.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
Get us caught up on the scores, and then I'm
gonna get your thoughts on the other side of these
losses from the NFL coming out next.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
That was my cute at Barton.

Speaker 9 (01:05:08):
But I don't oh, right, Virginia and Virginia Tech right
out playing there, we'll do it live. Eighteenth thrank Virginia
with a seven ohing lead over the Hokies five minutes
left in the first quarter. There a bunch of games
just went final in the top twenty five, number one
Ohio State with a twenty seven to nine win over Michigan.

(01:05:29):
That made me sick to my stomach, as you can
hear Julian saying. With nineteen for twenty six, two thirty
three through the air and three touchdowns. Bo Jackson not
that Bo Jackson, but he did look like him today,
twenty two carries and seven hundred seventeen yards on the ground.
Fifth rank Texas Tech with a forty nine to nothing
win over at West Virginia. Six drank Oregon beat Washington

(01:05:51):
twenty six to fourteen. Dante Moore twenty nine, I'm Sorry
twenty for twenty nine, two eighty six and a touchdown.
Oklahoma survives against LSU seventeen to thirteen, take meeting a
last second, hard sorry, fourth quarter touchdown from John Mattier
in that Oklahoma offense had three turnovers today for the
eighth ranked Sooners, LSU finishes seven and five with an

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interim head coach I love A thranks BYU with a
forty one to twenty one win over UCF. Twelfth ranked
Miami beat Pittsburgh thirty eight to seven. Miami trying to
get a late push to get into that college football playoff.
Fourteenth ranked Vanderbilt, but they just finishes ten and two,
six and two.

Speaker 5 (01:06:28):
In conference play at Diego Pavia. He was everywhere he passed,
he ran.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
Let's see.

Speaker 5 (01:06:34):
Twenty carries one hundred and sixty five yards and a touchdown.

Speaker 9 (01:06:38):
You pair that with eighteen for twenty eight two sixty
eight through the air and a touchdown as well. It
did turn the ball over twice, but pave leads Vanderbilt
to a to a forty five to twenty four win
over nineteenth ranked Tennessee Fellas.

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Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
Buck What, let me.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
Take the other side of this, because we just talked
about the fact that the Ravens are clearly the biggest
of all the teams that have lost so far this
week in the NFL, the team that you're most willing
to throw your hands up and say there's a problem.
What about the opposite, Who are you least willing to like?
Who are you looking at this loss and saying it's
not the end of the world. Because these were substantial
brands that lost football games. When you talk about the

(01:07:44):
Ravens losing, when you talk about the Chiefs losing, like
when you talk about the Eagles losing, when you look
across the board, is there a team that you're like
and no big deal? I'm still in on even though
they lost.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
Man, the Eagles offense looks so bad on Friday.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
That's Eagles look bad. The Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
The Chiefs look kind of broken. Yeah, the Lions look
kind of broken. I mean, are do any of them
stand a chants?

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
I I mean, do they stand a chance? Yeah? I
would give.

Speaker 3 (01:08:13):
Philadelphia it's a chance, you know, like I can no,
but but.

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
Like sure, I think we listen. Here's the biggest concern
to me about Philadelphia is they're the defending champions and
they have just had to play that much more football
than everybody but Kansas City, and that has a wear
on you. I know, it's super uh, you know, uninspiring
or non analytical, but yes, when you play that much

(01:08:38):
further than everybody else in a football season that's already
long and already grueling and takes a toll physically, mentally,
emotionally and all these different things, then yeah, you're in
a situation where the grind of that will wear you
down and cause some of these flaws to pop up.
Now they've they've handled it way better than most defending
champions do that are not named the Kansas City chief Thiefs. Right,

(01:09:00):
So if you like, so, what is the parameters of this?
What are the parameters of this to you? Are we
talking about can they make the playoffs and win a game?
I think that Philadelphia, out of any of these four
that we're talking about, Lions, Chiefs, Ravens, or Eagles, I
think that I would take Philadelphia in that department more

(01:09:21):
than the other three.

Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
I think I agree with that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
Man, I'm gonna admit that there's a problem with each
of these teams for me to give up on them. Like,
the Lions are so explosive, and when it looks good,
it looks so good. And that's what I think every
week when I come in and say, no, this is
the week the Lion's going to be right and then
it doesn't look right, you know, And it's not any
one thing. It's a confluence of different things. But also, man,

(01:09:48):
if I just need one play, Jamior Gibbs might be
the one guy that I want the ball in his
hands in the entire NFL. The Chiefs, Like, I know
it's time to give up on the Chiefs as a
real Super Bowl contender this year.

Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
I know that in my mind, But my mind said,
I mean, no, no, But like the rest, I can't do that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
Do you really, like right now, if I think that
I'm gonna have Kansas City at the Patriots in the
first round of the playoffs, am I really gonna bet
against Mahomes in a playoff game?

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
Like? I just can't bring myself to do it. So
and the Eagles the same way.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
Like we talked about the Eagles last year like they
were broken, then they got in the playoffs and they
weren't broken.

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
So there's just a part of me that looks at
all of this.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
And I know we talked the other night about a
changing of the guard in the AFC. Right now, I
just hesitate to give up on these brands because of
what we've seen in the past, but at the same time,
based on what we've seen right now, none of them
deserve to be in the conversation as elite football teams.

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
Yeah, I mean, it's just a it's it's a matter
of like, who is elite this year? You're not.

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
The Rams are elite. The Rams are a great football team.
I think the Seahawks are on the edge of elite.
Like the turnovers sometimes scare me a little bit, but
I think the Seahawks are on the edge.

Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
It's okay if there's just one elite team, and if
that just happens to be the Los Angeles Rams, and
that's fine. I'm not gonna do more heavy lifting for
the Seahawks or the Broncos, or the Patriots or or
any of these other teams than need be or the
Bears right like that. These are all flawed teams that
have had success in one score games and by the way,

(01:11:20):
deserve to be where they are at. But I'm not
going to go out of my way to make the
conversation more than there is one elite team in the NFL,
and it's being quarterbacked by a thirty seven year old
defending Super Bowl champion. Or a Super Bowl champion, not
a defending Super Bowl champion. But you understand my point,
who's playing the best football of his career, and the

(01:11:40):
defense is also awesome. Beyond that, It's not like FITZI
if you're talking about belief in brands or any of this.
It's not as much about the brands right as it
is about the people quarterbacking the brands. Jared Goff, Patrick Mahomes,
Lamar Jackson, and Jay Lee. Two of those have won championships.

(01:12:04):
The other one in Lamar Jackson, is a two time MVP,
And while golf may not be any of those things,
he has played in a Super Bowl and he has
shown that at this phase of his career he's more
than just a product of a certain system. He can
win and the system helps him. But he is an
above average quarterback by any standard of your definition at

(01:12:25):
this point. So I think it's fine to have a
belief in that that they can do enough when the
moment calls for it, that they will find ways to win.
But what we're seeing right now is that they have problems.
For the Chiefs, it's a fact. It's the fact that
they are not super great on defense this year. For Baltimore,

(01:12:45):
their offense is disjointed. And for Detroit they've got interior
offensive line problems, to the point where they were trying
to bring Frank rag Now out of retirement, and all
of a sudden he fails a physical because he's got
a Grade three hamstring injury, which sounds awful, awful, awful.
I don't know how the hell he could get in
there without with with still dealing with what I assume

(01:13:05):
is caused in part his retirement. Uh, and expect this
guy to he wasn't gonna play on Thursday regardless, but
still that this was going to be something that shifted.
Although the argument could be made that when the Lions
have had problems, it's because their interior offensive line has
not been good enough this year, and so that in
your head you could make a simple solve, there's no
simple solves for these For these three or four teams

(01:13:28):
right now, they they are who they are. The Eagles
are the are good enough at surviving their flaws better
than the other three right now, which is why you
would put your most the most amount of faith in them.
But if you're talking about the Chiefs, yet half the
time their issues have caused them to lose half the
time they've been able to survive it. That's the same
argument that could be made of the Ravens. These are

(01:13:49):
five hundred teams. They should be treated as such.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
Now we're still figuring out how to survive with no
Lan Kiffin updates. As we sit right now, we still
don't know where Kiffin is going to coach. That's the
America we're in in the meantime, Would you rather hear
about anything other than Leane Kiffin? The answer to that
is yes, which means coming up next, we'll do the
single greatest game show in the history of sports Stark Radio.
Nobody can touch it. Would you rather Bucking Fits on
Fox Sports Radio? Whoo, he's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitzit's

(01:14:16):
Bucking Fits on Fox Sports Radio. Appreciates you guys hanging
out with us all night as you do every Saturday.

Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
We hope means a lot that you guys choose to
spend a lot of time with us.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
Hope everybody had a wonderful, spectacular and incredible Thanksgiving holiday.
As we wrap up our second hour, still no idea
what Lane Kiffin's gonna be doing. I'm sure that uh
mart Weiss and Mancy Belanios. We get caught up on
that next but in the meantime, Buck, are you ready
for it? It's time for the single greatest.

Speaker 3 (01:14:43):
Game show in the history of sports Stark Radio. Are
you ready for this?

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
Buck? Yeah, I'm ready to have to jump your cadence
so we can try and time it out correctly.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
All right, are you ready for would you rather?

Speaker 3 (01:14:57):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
We nailed that. That was good, and tell me we
want we we nailed that, right?

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
That was?

Speaker 6 (01:15:02):
What do you think Mary? I thought it was. I
thought Buck was actually a little early.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
Because I have to go a full second.

Speaker 4 (01:15:08):
I know you got I like the I like the
reference you gotta jump jump his cadence.

Speaker 6 (01:15:12):
That was I like that reference. But yeah, you did
jump in a little too much. I think they're.

Speaker 1 (01:15:18):
Feedback since I made fun of Bryce's his poverty teeth.

Speaker 6 (01:15:21):
So I'm just so mentally checked out. Yea, I need
a spot day.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
Oh Man, holidays exactly in one ear out the other.

Speaker 5 (01:15:30):
I need a spot day.

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
I hear you.

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
I'm in for that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
I could use a good many, pet I've never had
a many, but I love me and then I like
petticures are my my favorite.

Speaker 3 (01:15:39):
I love getting pedicures.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
Maybe next time I'm in Los Angeles, team pedicures.

Speaker 3 (01:15:44):
Honestly I'm in.

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
I'm in on the Like, why next, Like, let's just
schedule a special trip team outing.

Speaker 3 (01:15:50):
Ian you can come to although like, don't come in
for feet aren't ready for it?

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
Like you might want to get a prep like I
don't like some guys don't take good care of them
toes and they get nasty. So Ian like, you know,
you gotta do a little advance work if we do
a team petty outing. Unless you're already a petty fanatic.

Speaker 4 (01:16:04):
Yeah, I've never had a petty in my life, so
I may need the prep in to.

Speaker 3 (01:16:08):
Change your life. It will change your life.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
Get about the pedicure. For me, it's about the calf
massage they give you whilst getting the pedicure. That's, oh
my gotcha.

Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
And like the paraffin wax like when they put your
feet in the little wax things, Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
We're gonna have no time for would you rather now
let's play?

Speaker 4 (01:16:24):
All right, go ahead, it's been the way Okay, this
could be a controversial one here, So.

Speaker 3 (01:16:28):
Would you rather heard that one?

Speaker 4 (01:16:31):
Would you rather every time you burp, a slur comes out,
or every time you sneeze, you punch the closest person.

Speaker 1 (01:16:43):
This might be my favorite. Would you rather? Also? Nobody
could pick the burp one?

Speaker 3 (01:16:47):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
What happens if you pick the getting canceled?

Speaker 6 (01:16:52):
Can we pre cancel you? Pens you?

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
I mean if you if you willingly admit or willingly
decide that you will take the thing that causes you
to randomly utter slurs. I feel like that's a red flag,
my friend.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
Oh that is I am taking that one in a heartbeat,
just because of just how uncomfortable it will make the
entire I'm imagining walking through the mall for Black Sunday,
Black Friday shopping and all of a sudden boom, like
it just starts coming out while you're in the store.

Speaker 3 (01:17:21):
All the whole room is so uncomfortable with it.

Speaker 6 (01:17:24):
And don't get acid reflux around.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
Oh my god, this is a this is electric what puck,
You're gonna start punching people that are close to you?

Speaker 3 (01:17:30):
What if your mom's standing next to you? Buck? What
if your mom is the person clothes like you just
gonna punch your mom?

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
White privilege, Now, that is the most honest thing that's
been said on this.

Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
Radio show for two hours. You are one thousand percent right?

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
Oh correct, never wanted a no comment? Or would you rather?

Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
That was the best question we've ever had on that shot?
All right?

Speaker 4 (01:17:54):
Would you rather make one hundred dollars every time you
make someone laugh? Or make one thousand dollars every time
you make someone cry?

Speaker 1 (01:18:01):
Oh, money in the bank, Give me a k give
me a grand to make somebody cry. I'm already doing
it on a regular basis. I answer, Oh, it's I mean,
tears sustain me also financially baking.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
Oh my god, dad, Because you could walk into one
room full of people and like it would take all
at tent. Like all you got to do is go
to a like anywhere near a department store where people
are trying on clothes and just start offering opinions.

Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
You'll be rich.

Speaker 6 (01:18:30):
I feel like the dressing room just like yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
No, yeah, that's that's not going to fetch Those are cute, aspirational.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
I'm just I'm just gonna get a market board where
I can write different variations of the word fat on
it and then just watch what happens when I get rich.

Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
Hell, I almost did it tonight. Telling Mary she had
poverty teeth.

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
Yeah, I know we're going to hell.

Speaker 6 (01:18:50):
Can you jump through this this board? Please?

Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
They're a long way away.

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
Girl.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
Oh man, you gotta he got a quick one. You got,
you got thirty seconds? Go ahead, what you got? He
still swung the wheel. We still have to Okay, we
don't have to know. We have to to know exactly
what question that?

Speaker 5 (01:19:09):
All right?

Speaker 4 (01:19:10):
Would you rather have to slap a baby once a
year but no one has to know that you're doing it?
Let me include that. Or you have to only eat
plant based protein for the rest of your life. You
have ten seconds slap a baby. Sounds like a good
time to me.

Speaker 3 (01:19:20):
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