Buck & Fitz React to the Knicks Eliminating the Celtics, Debate the Value of Draft Lotteries & More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
I'm gonna be honest with you.

Speaker 3 (00:06):
We were ready to start the show tonight talking about
chaos in New York. We were ready to start the
show talking about the celebration that frankly, the entire East
Coast seems overrun.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
By, and believe me, we will. But before we.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Get there, the breaking news, the big news, all eyes
are suddenly on drama yet again between Caitlin Clark and
Angel Reese. And I'm here to tell you this is
exactly what the WNBA needed today. It's a Fox Sports Saturday.
He's Buck rising out, Jason Fitz. We are with you
for the next several hours, coming at you live from
the Fox Sports Radio studios. Buck, I mean, just gotta

(00:44):
be real with the people, right Like I was ready
to talk about greased up like poles and people climbing
on top of billboards and people running around.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Necket it all over New York.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
We're ready to do that, but instead we get drama
in the WNBA.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
But this feels so electric because frankly.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
I all so think I was at an event today
and I'm hanging out with a bunch of friends and
I'm watching everybody and somebody looked at me and said,
what's even going on in sports today? And my answer
immediately was, it's a big Saturday. It's the first Saturday
for the WNBA, like this matters. There were some premier
marquee matchups today. I think a lot of people didn't
even realize that. I think a lot of people weren't
paying attention. But it took one flagrant foul. It took

(01:21):
one let's say, shove. Maybe Caitlin Clark gets in the
middle of the ball a.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Some might say that she shoved.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Angel Reese to the ground and didn't look that egregious
to me, but Angel did not appreciate it. She gets up,
there's trash talking going on, and all of a sudden,
social media blows up. Brother, this felt like exactly with
the WNED because it's a reminder it's here, it's a
reminder of the drama, and we get two of the
biggest stars just yapping at each other thirty seconds into
the season.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
It is a beautiful Saturday, and I'm always happy to
spend it with you and the crew, my brother, but
I think it is more convenient for you than anybody
else that you can avoid the shame of you loudly
declaring yourself the Boston Celtics, because that's exactly what I
was prepared to talk about. That's exactly what Ian was
prepared to talk about today, and instead you say, no,

(02:09):
throw out the rundown boys, We're talking WNBA to start.
Never you mind that I picked the Celtics to run
away with the series, and understandably some things had to
happen for New York to be able to get that done.
But still, but still, I don't disagree with you that
this is the kind of thing that this sport in

(02:29):
particular needs, because this is now year two of them both, right,
this is now how sustainable is Caitlin Clark, Angel Reese
the momentum that the WNBA seems to be building upon.
Can we continue to captivate the country with a team
like the Indiana Fever and the Chicago Sky and do

(02:49):
so even on a blowout and they won a close
game today in ninety three fifty eight. Anybody who thinks
that these two players are in the same class at
this point, I mean, Caitlin just unbelievable. Another triple double today,
finishing twenty points, ten rebounds, ten assists, four blocks two
steals and as FITZI mentioned, the flagrant foul heard round

(03:13):
the world, or at least round the internet as the
WNBA gets things going today. But I mean, for so,
FITZI genuinely how much WNBA did you watch last year?
Because I'm really curious. I know that people follow Caitlin Clark.
I know that the WNBA has never had more momentum
than it does right now, but you you, personally, how
many WNBA games did you watch last year?

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Okay, So I'll be honest, I think it's probably an
unfair question only and not in the way most people
are going to think. If you go back to my background.
When I started in radio nationally, Sarah Spain was my
first co host, and I will always credit Sarah for
day one saying, hey, we're going to talk about the
W on this show, so get to know it. So
I from day one of radio have watched a lot
of W and ESPN when I worked for them, had

(03:57):
me cover them quite a bit doing digital shows all
the time for the W. So I find myself, you know,
having a good, good amount. It's not uncommon for me
to pop the game out like I was genuinely interested
to see what a new look Aces look like. Today
against the Liberty flash forward did not look good. So
I was gonna be watching these games anyway. I think
for me, it's hard to this is the thing we

(04:19):
have to acknowledge. Like I love I love men's college
You and I both love men's college basketball, right, I
think it is impossible in October for anybody in the
world to give a damn about.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Men's college basketball.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Like as much as I love the sport and it's
one of my favorite things to cover, and nobody cares
in October, it just doesn't happen. And so to me,
when we were starting this weekend, all I kept thinking
is Man Celtics Knicks. We got a game seven tomorrow
in the NBA in the West. You know, we got
thunder Nuggets as I continually like to call it because
it sounds like a good band name. You know, we
got that going tomorrow afternoon. There is this moment of

(04:54):
how do you cut through? The preakness you heard earlier
had a dramatic ending like how do you cut through?

Speaker 2 (04:58):
I think this cuts through for the asual is all
over the place. So I think part of what makes.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
This a beautiful thing, like if it was Caitlin against
anybody else, I don't know how much Twitter cares, I
don't know how much X cares, I don't know how
much radio cares. But Caitlin against Angel Reese and to
your point, a blowout game, like there was no conversation
to be had about this game if it wasn't for
the shove, and if it wasn't for the you know,
extracurricular activity afterwards. By the way, would stick get Angel

(05:25):
recentally of Boston Bolsom technical fouls we should mention if
we're not for that. I don't think anybody's talking about
the WA NBA action today.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
No, and I again, I don't disagree with you whatsoever. Also,
on aside thunder Nuggets, it feels like we play a
game on the local show around horse racing. Given that
the Preakness was today, thunder Nuggets a better horse or
a better rock band?

Speaker 5 (05:47):
We can depend there.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
Nuggets a better rock band, But also thunder Nuggets sounds
like something maybe like after a late night in Nashville,
the next day, you gotta get thunder Nuggets.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
In we go with the bathroom humor seven minutes in
a child you are working with a child all right, you.

Speaker 5 (06:09):
Are the oldest child I know in my life.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
You're like Benjamin Button wanting to make bathroom jokes seven
minutes into the show.

Speaker 5 (06:15):
It's fine, it's fine.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
I'm never gonna hear thunder Nuggets and not think it again.

Speaker 5 (06:19):
Go ahead, I can't.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
I mean, yes, let's now proceed with our serious analysis
of women's professional basketball. But this is this is the thing, right.
It starts the dialogue around these two teams. It reignites
the dialogue around these two players, and you have quotes
coming out.

Speaker 5 (06:35):
On both sides.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
Caitlin Clark talking about the on the broadcast, just a
good take foul yesterday or excuse me during the game today,
arguing with the officials that it was not flagrant at
that point in time. Obviously, Angel Rey is feeling much
different about the situation, having to be held back, and
you know, I know she was quoted as saying, let's
not make it anything that it's not. It was just

(06:57):
a good play on the basketball. I'm not sure what
the ref saw to upgrade it. And obviously that's Caitlyn
trying to do some damage control on that while Angel
Reese is asking her what the f is wrong with
you after the play. But these are the kind of
things that are good for sports in general. You try
not to you try not to go over the line
with stuff. And I'm on record as advocating for just

(07:19):
generally more hate in sports, but you don't want to
actively agitate some things there that would cause it to
go over the line. But still the rivalry element of
it allows more people to follow along. Even if you're
not going to be able to catch every WNBA game
every time the Fever and the Sky square off, you're

(07:41):
gonna be able to you will care about Caitlin Clark
and Angel Reese because.

Speaker 5 (07:46):
It just gives you the juice.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
And the rest of the league obviously has compelling stars
and compelling teams and things like that, But this is
the thing that is really going to I mean, I
would argue carry most of the water for the w
throughout the course of the dialogue around it's league. Now,
at some point you would like it to become a
bit broader and to not just become so singularly focused
on two players who are two excellent players, one clearly

(08:12):
and obviously more excellent than the other. Who is going
to I think bail this league out in a huge
way in ways that they've been waiting desperately for years
a star of this caliber that is compelling across the
world of sports. And that's I mean, whether or not
she leans into it, she doesn't seem to actively agitated.

(08:32):
Angel Reese and her are just clearly competitors, and that
I think is, you know, at the crux of why
people want to care about this thing, why people are
going to buy into this thing, even if you know
it causes it ruffles a little feathers on the court.

Speaker 5 (08:47):
In the meantime, he's Buck Rising.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
I'm Jason fitz And here's the thing that I want
everyone to listen to this entire statement before they react
to it, because sometimes this is said and it's triggering,
and sometimes this is said and people are being stupid.
I'd like to think I'm not, and this isn't. Sports
are at their best when there's a hero and a villain.
But here's where you're really at your best. Like the
greatest HBO shows, you're not sure if you're rooting for

(09:13):
or against somebody that's absolutely awful, like Tony Soprano was
a terrible like well not just HBO, look at breaking bad,
like your main characters are people that you know, some
people are.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Rooting for and some people are rooting against.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
I think what's interesting is that so many people want
to make Caitlin a hero and Angel a villain in
these situations. Angel loudly booed as she came on to
the court today. To me, what's really compelling about this
is that angel and villain works both ways.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
If you are an Angel Reese fan.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
You are looking at Caitlin and the attitude that she
does have with res and the way that she plays
at times, and you're thinking, no, y'all, that's the villain.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
This is the hero. Like this is the hero, She's
the villain.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
If you're a Caitlin Clark fan, you're looking at it
and say, no, no, no, no no.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
This is the Steph.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Curry of the WNBA. She's the hero, Angel's the villain.
What's interesting about this, and why I think it's so
spelling for so many people, is that when you hear
hero villain, one side or the other takes it as
a personal insult to the person that they root for,
when in fact, I think there's enough hero and villain.
This is very eighties wrestling, Like I'm not sure if
these guys are faces or heels.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
I'm not sure if they're good guys or bad guys.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
I just think that as fans, it become so polarizing
one way or the other. Everybody's It's like the Karen
Reid trial and social media right now, everybody's decided whether
she's innocent or guilty. And my timeline is full of
people that are wildly proclaiming that there is only one
possible answer to the Karen retrial.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
It's the same with Angel versus Caitlin.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
Like Angel supporters believe that Angel is absolutely being treated
wrong and that Caitlin is the devil, and Caitlyn supporters
are looking at and saying, how could you have any
problem with Caitlyn?

Speaker 2 (10:44):
It's Angel, that's the problem. That's when you get your
best stuff though, because it engages.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Everybody in the argument, in the debate, in the heat
of eye and like eyeballs matter.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
That's why this is such a win for the w.

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(11:17):
Sunday morning right here on Fox Sports Radio and the
iHeartRadio app. And I honestly, FITZI, I think it's better
when Kaitlyn Clark is the villain. I think that she
has so many more polarizing elements to her, even though,
as you said, people who are in the Caitlin Clark
camp for lack of a better term, will tell you

(11:38):
all of these things that Angel Reese does to agitate
and instigate the kind of situations that she gets into
on the court. But I think that Caitlin Clark has
just as many of those qualities. But for some reason,
when she does it, it ignites a different level of
passion in both sides of those eating arguments, and I

(12:01):
think it takes everything over she for some reason, And
and I'm smarter, people than me will have to help
me understand why it is that she is just as
compelling as she is, because to me, she's just an
excellent athlete, right, It's I don't really care about the
personality stuff. What she does on the court, what they
both do on the court is spectacular to behold. But

(12:24):
the way that people freak out about everything that Caitlin
Clark does, good, bad, or indifferent, there's there's gonna have
to be some some sociological studies done on what it
is about America that just is so bought into or
bought in against this figure that is coming in here,
and I mean honestly revolutionizing the conversation, not the sport,

(12:47):
but revolutionizing the conversation around the sport, even if she
is also an excellent, excellent basketball player.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
Look, sports are are you are being covered at the
highest possible level when you're being covered with the least
possible analysis.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
I will die on that hill when you get to
the biggest level.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
We rarely watch football shows for this that they're and
tell you that the linebackers two yards too deep. You know,
that's just not the way it works. We want to
sit there and talk about quarterbacks. So at the end
of the day, what happened today, above and beyond being
the first big Saturday of the w n b A,
what happened today is at Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark
put jet fuel on the concept of Hey, the w
NBA is back, which is good for the sport, it's

(13:27):
good for our conversation, it's good for everybody involved in
this because it will still be talked about in the meantime.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
No, no, now, wait now, wait just to day. I
meant it before you do your professional radio broadcast. Teas
I and we are not going to let him off
the hook.

Speaker 5 (13:40):
Mary to him.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
We're going to get to it today. We're going to
get to it.

Speaker 5 (13:43):
Man, talk about my New York next, my New York God.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
Cop friends finals, you are not going anywhere to say.

Speaker 5 (13:55):
What happen about that?

Speaker 4 (13:56):
Even Shiny because of the oil that he's putting on
his forehead, scared to talk about how wrong he was
about the basketball.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Look you thunder Nuggets.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
What I was about to say that everybody very clearly
was coming up. He's buck rising on Jason Fitz. I
got crow to eat. We'll tell you about it. Plus
the party is going on in New York. I'm I'm
I'm about to be humbled and it's it's way pastime.
We'll get to it next these buck Rising on Jason Fitz,
We're hanging out with you on Fox Sports Radio on
Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 2 (14:38):
The next one, the Knicks beat the Celtics. Now, let's
just get it to the.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
Part where you eat it. Okay, I don't know how
everybody knows. Everybody knows that the next one. Everybody we
all saw the party in the garden. We all saw
that the moment of doubt, the moment of doubt went
in Boston, you know, reclaims a little bit of momentum
in the in the previous game before the Knicks were
able to defeat Boston in advance to the Eastern Conference Finals,

(15:05):
the celebration that unfolded.

Speaker 5 (15:06):
But you, you, Jason Fitz, as we sit here with you.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
On a Fox Sports Saturday, He's Jason Fitz, I'm buck Rising.
You were so adamant about Boston being able to just
waltz on by the New York Knicks, and in every
other year in the history of these two.

Speaker 5 (15:26):
Franchises, you pretty much be right.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
You were, and I'm sure You're going to take this
criticism to the air at some point throughout the course
of the show. But you were very critical of New
York celebrating a second round victory the way that it was.
But not if you understand the history of these two
teams where Boston has been the winner between these two franchises,
We're New York, even with Patrick Ewing, was thought of

(15:49):
as less than Yes, they have great history, Yes they
have great passion for basketball, but they've never actually won
anything of consequence when it comes to this basketball team.
So the impact of them advancing to the conference finals
doing it, getting by Boston to do it is huge, huge,

(16:11):
in any stretch of the imagination in you you you, you,
you spit on you, You turned your nose up at them.
You were the elitists in this particular situation. You deserve
the piano tinkling behind you in this particular segment. In fact,
I think I would like to hear that while I
literally watch you eat crow.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Okay, here's the thing. You're right.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
We hung out and I said after the first two
games that the Knicks were as good as done because they.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Were down by twenty plus in the first two games.
Who cares. Everything's going to be just fine. I was
very secure in this.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
I said that the Celtics were going to be just
fine and the Knicks didn't stand a chance. Now, look,
I didn't I didn't know that Jason Tatum was gonna
have That's the one that becomes my get out of
jail free card.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
I could turn around you constantly be.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
Like, oh, I'm sorry, I didn't predict a massive injury
for the guy that they needed to step up the most. Like,
I don't know what you doing, but you know what
I was gonna.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Say to that.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
I was gonna be nice to the Knicks. Now you've
turned nice off. There's no point being nice. Like now,
let's just rip the band aid off and talk about
this for a second. The Knicks are running around New York.
Knicks fans are running around New York like they just
won the damn thing. Like you don't raise a banner
for a second round playoff win. This wasn't even a
victory that sent you to the actual NBA finals. This

(17:24):
just sent you to the Eastern Conference final. Congratulations you
beat your rival. Oh that's so cute, that's cool. Like
you're celebrating like you just took down the Lakers for
the NBA Championship.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
You did not.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
You're running up flagpoles like you're in Philly after a
Super Bowl. The problem is the equivalent is when would
the Eagles fan base do this after they won a
divisional round playoff game? Because that's all the Knicks have done,
like a not a single person is gonna remember this
win in ten years outside of diehard Knicks man, if
it doesn't end up in a finals run, you think

(17:56):
they're random. You think Joe in Montana's gonna sit there
and be like, remember when the Knicks took down the
Celtics in the second round of the playoffs?

Speaker 5 (18:06):
The remembers, what do we do in like like.

Speaker 4 (18:12):
Day of celebrating the next Truly, they do not deserve it,
even me giving them any credit. Yes, they deserve it.
That is when it comes to their basketball. That is
a downtrodden market. I know that they pound their chest,
but like, what does the city of New York really
want at Seriously, it's it's a major market. It has
many many famed and established sports franchises.

Speaker 5 (18:37):
In its history. But who are the winners in New York?

Speaker 4 (18:39):
It's always been the Yankees It's never been the Knicks
or the Jets. I know the Giants have a couple
of Super Bowl championships obviously at this point, but it's
really the Yankees that have carried the New York sports
fan water. But the basketball team is the thing that
seems to have ignited the passion of that city in
ways that I don't think you could recreate in a

(18:59):
in a if you tried this ten different times.

Speaker 5 (19:02):
It is.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
Look, it's a spectacular thing to watch.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
I'm absolutely I am just all over this thing.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
When you call the Masters overrated, the Masters is overrated.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
But here's the other thing.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
As a die hard, lifelong Raiders fan, my team like,
the chances I'm ever.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Gonna see you a Super Bowl are pretty damn slim.
We all know that, right. I cannot imagine. Let me
just say this loudly.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
If the Raiders win the wild Card round of the
playoffs and then somehow they win the Divisional round to
advance to the AFC Championship Game, if that happens, will
I I will probably have tears in my house. I'm
not gonna run out in the streets and lift parking
greats up.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
I'm not gonna say that don't care if Raiders fans.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
If Raiders fans actually ran through the streets after a
divisional round win to get into the AFC Championship game,
I would loudly boo the entire fan base like you
didn't do anything. Yet you don't turn around and be like,
well remember that, Like could you imagine Bill fit the
Bill Papia being like.

Speaker 5 (20:00):
What if they did? What if they beat the Chiefs
to do it?

Speaker 4 (20:03):
I know the Chiefs are, you know, they're they're they're
dragging a leg a little bit since the Super Bowl,
and I don't think the shine is lately off, but
people are starting to question that.

Speaker 5 (20:10):
A little bit.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
What if the Raiders were to beat the Chiefs to
do these things that you're talking about?

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Who cares?

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Like the Raiders running When John Gruden took the victory
lap around Arrowhead because the Raiders won a game in Arrowhead,
that was the dumbest damn Like, that's.

Speaker 5 (20:23):
A stupid not the same thing.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
Of course not it's the playoffs, but come on, man,
like we're going to react that way. Like I was
watching that scene and the scene was magical. My first
thought was, oh my god, this is so cool. And
then I sat there and I saw somebody say I
saw one.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Of the social media people say New York wants to
be Philly so.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
Bad, And all I kept thinking is, nah, because Philly
does this after they win championships, Like the Eagles win
championships and they have to grease the polls, right, Like
apparently you got to grease Like this is the equivalent
of like, oh my god, the Yankees just beat the
Red Sox in the in the Al divisional playoff round,
and we're gonna go out and run up the flag poles,
Like who the hell does that?

Speaker 4 (21:02):
Say something about Timothy's shallome right now, Say something nice
about him right now.

Speaker 5 (21:06):
Just give give Nick's fans something.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
You know, Timothy Shallomey was pretty pretty good as an
SNL host. I'll give him that. I didn't love the
Willy Wonka? Did you love the Willy Wonka? Okay, we're
gonna continue to watch the Bob Dylan think it was
way too long. I did not watch the Bob Dylan
thing because grants Bob Dylan, and that's right up your
alley fits.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
I got a lot of thoughts on this.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
It's like, do we really need a biopic film on
somebody that like the music is there to stream, you
really want to go out there, just go listen to
the music, like you really need to sit through a
biopic film about Bob Dylan.

Speaker 4 (21:41):
He's just an angry old man at this point in
his life.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Are you the happiest? Apparently? Look, I nobody believes that
thunder right now.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
You're smiling right now is because I assume that smile
is botoxed onto your face.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
No botox here.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Only one of us have gotten botox, twenty years younger
than I. No botox for Steve Disager, but Steve Disager
needs to get us updated on what's going on. Steve
saved me from myself.

Speaker 5 (22:06):
If that's possible.

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six to two at the Red Sox. The Mets today
got a run in the top of the ninth to
beat the Yankees three to two. Save to Edwin Diaz.

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Aaron Judge went zero for five. The Cubs down the
White Sox seven to three. Toronto beat Detroit today two
to one. Tampa Bay a four to nothing winner at Miami,
and Washington won ten to six at Baltimore. The loss
to Kyle Gibson, who's zero and three with an ERA
of sixteen point seven eight this year, as he allowed
six runs in the first inning, and before the game,

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the Oriols fired their manager, Brandon Hide. The team is
now fifteen and twenty nine.

Speaker 5 (23:47):
Back to you.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
He's buck rising on Jason Fitz hanging out with the
bucket vits on a Fox Sports Saturday on Fox Sports Radio.
Troy hit Us on Twitter with some of the video
footage from last night.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
And let me be clear, this is electric.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
It looks amazing, This is incredible. It makes at this point,
it makes a New Year's Eve look like it's a
you know, it's a day at the library.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Like this thing looks absolutely insane.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
And I gotta be honest, I thought about trying to
pull some strings and get into the garden last night,
like being up in.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
This part of the country.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
I thought about it and saw the tickets were going
for seventeen thousand dollars quite literally for the best tickets,
and I was like, I think I'm gonna pass on that.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
I think I'm gonna wait right, But here's the thing
I look at it.

Speaker 5 (24:28):
It doesn't doesn't love.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
No, No, look, seventeen thousand dollars, that's a lot. Like
I'm not buck rising boogie like, that's a lot of games.

Speaker 5 (24:39):
Come on, you know I could change for you, Bud.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Yeah, you know, this is what happens when you're rich rich.
But here's the thing. I look at this.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
I'm like, this would be electric if it was a
champion ship, Like.

Speaker 5 (24:50):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
I mean I'm just saying, like, so, what happens if
they lose to Indiana? Like how are we gonna remember
this moment? Like we're just gonna look at this and say.

Speaker 5 (24:58):
Oh, yeah, you're drunken naked in the streets.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
I'm a Pacers fan, but you know, I don't know
how the rest of America is gonna remember.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
Would you celebrate this way? Would you as a Pacers fan?
Would you celebrate like this if the Pacers beat the
Knicks to get to the NBA Finals? Would you run
through the streets in a mob of people?

Speaker 4 (25:19):
No, not the Indiana Pacers, but in because that's not
my greatest fanom like I'd love to see the Pacers win.
Grew up going to Pacers games. Some of my favorite
sports memories are watching Paul George and Lance Stevenson and
Roy Hibbert and George Hill go up against the Big
Three in Miami during those great playoff runs that those

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two teams had when Lebron and Dwayne Wade and Chris
Bosh were chasing championships and the Pacers are trying to
stand in their way to do it. But for my
favorite sports team, yes, for my favorite sports team, absolutely
Indiana Pacers, you know I would be I would be
very I would be pleasantly surprised, honestly, because I don't
think there's any anything super special about this Pacers team,

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which is why I think the Necks are going to
the final.

Speaker 8 (26:04):
You guys would have to assume that there's a like
it can get crazier than this, though, because this is
only to make it to the Eastern Conference finals. So
what if they do win the championship? What's it going
to be like? The city will burn?

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (26:16):
I mean I if they win the NBA Championship, there's
a part of me that would love to be in
the chaos, But really, the right thing to do is
to get like a hotel right by the garden and
just put yourself up.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Above the chaos, watch and watch the chaos. Like that's
the way to do it. To watch at them.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
I mean, I mean, they're not going to fail it.
And aren't you a New York sports fan or just
a Jets just.

Speaker 8 (26:39):
A Jets fan? But yeah, I mean, I you know,
I'm what's the word tangentially related to Knicks fans?

Speaker 2 (26:45):
I guess fancy, I know, tangentially.

Speaker 8 (26:48):
I don't even know if I use that correctly.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
I think, well, I mean, what do I know? Okay,
I'm not. I am trying to yuck there, young, and
that's what I feel like I'm doing now. I'm watching
this video and all I keep.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Thinking about it.

Speaker 5 (27:02):
You don't even know what that means.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
Oh yeah, yuck, you're young. It's like, yeah, like you
love it, and I'm saying it sucks. I just think
at this point, look, the Knicks are on a magical
run and they took down the Celtics. But the Celtics,
last time I checked, got a banner on a trophy.
So before you turn around and say, oh my god,
like I've seen all the videos of Knicks fans reminding

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Celtics fans how much they suck today. And I just
think before you talk that talk, you might want to
actually finish the deal. Like we forget sometimes that the
do you Believe in Miracles game was actually not the
Gold Medal game, like Team USA had to go in
and win another game. As much as we look at
some of these like the Tuck rule that defines my

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entire life as a Raiders fan, was that play did
not win a Super Bowl for the Patriots, they still
have to go in and finish these things, right, Like
all of these moments we think UNLV as a kid
losing to Duke, Well, they lost in the final four,
Duke had to turn around and win the championship. Like
there are these moments here where this is incredible and
it can be a great part of the conversation of

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what this year could mean for the Knicks and this
next team if they win a championship goes down an
all time lore, like I think Knicks fans should celebrate
in ways we've never seen if this Knicks team actually
delivers a championship, but just delivering a win over the Celtics,
Like all right, you want a second round playoff matchup
like that, that just isn't this this especially even for

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Knicks fans. But like, tell me the Pacers fans, because
when's the last time the Pacers were in these situations?

Speaker 5 (28:34):
I can see right honestly, Ben, since I've been in college.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
So you know, tell me that the Pacers fan base
that's never had these sorts of like the state of
Indiana is not ripe with championships everywhere post Peyton Manning's
life right like in the NFL. So I just think
that this feels like such a wildly overreaction moment from
the Knicks.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
That's fine though, because all those different moments that you
mentioned that we're not with with championship implication.

Speaker 5 (29:00):
Fitz, people do remember them.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
And then you were just sitting there arguing that people
are not going to remember this next victory over the
Boston Celtics.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Well, they remember it because remember the Championship.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
Do you really think that if Team USA hadn't won
the Gold that year, if Team US goes in and
just it.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
Would make much less good movie.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
That's where they do the Law and Order aning where
it just ends after the Gold, like after the Duke.
Do you believe in miracles and then the screen just
comes up and says Team USA later lost but took
the silver medal.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Right, I just it just doesn't matter as much.

Speaker 5 (29:29):
But it is.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
It is a it's a unique major market discussion because
it is Boston and New York, and New York never
beats Boston and basketball this way. So again, I understand
what you're saying. They have to continue to do it.
I think they are capable of doing again against the
Indiana Pacers. Of course, they will have to prove that
throughout the course of this next series, and that's going
to be a tightly contested series. Indiana is a quality

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basketball team. Halliburton, whether whether or not you believe him
to be overrated or not, is playing up to expectation.

Speaker 5 (29:58):
It's just a silly narrative thing we gravitate to.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
With sufficiently rated, like just make it sufficiently rated.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
I feel that he is sufficiently rated, but I think
he would prefer to be overrated so they can, so
that he can continue to feed off of this narrative
that he is the most overrated NBA basketball player. But
you've got a couple of different dynamics going on here.
New York as a basketball market, when have they ever
had the finisher Jalen Brunson is that clutch player.

Speaker 5 (30:29):
Jalen Brunson has greater moments.

Speaker 4 (30:31):
Because what you are saying is completely accurate about the
Boston Celtics and the championship that they won last year.
And by the way, if they didn't do it this year,
prior to Jason Tatum's Achilles injury, we would have expected,
we would have probably made them the favorites to win
the championship at twenty twenty six. Right, But Tatum, for
all his greatness and for all he brings to the table,

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and as badly as they needed him obviously in this series,
and even when they got the good Tatum's games in
this series, he's never had a moment like Jalen Brunson had,
even just knocking the Pistons out like For as much
as the New York basketball fan and as much as
that specific player is feeding off of it, New York

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wants this.

Speaker 5 (31:13):
New York wants to be underrated.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
They want to have the tiny, little six to two
guy who's out there to kick your ass night in
and night out. That's why it's gravitate or picking up
as much hype as it has, at least from my perspective.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
I'm buying that.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
I just think, if the Celtics go out, or sorry,
if the Knicks go out and they lose to Indiana,
or they lose in the NBA Finals, and four months
from now, they're sitting at a bar and a guy
walks in with the Celtics shirt and they turn around,
they're like, you suck man, we took you guys down
in the playoffs. All the Celtics guy I gotta do
is turn around and say, you know what, when was
your last Lario O'Brien chovy, because ours was a year ago,

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when was the last championship you won? You haven't finished
that portion of the argument, and that portion of the
argument is never gonna go away, Like it's just until
you actually win Chips, nothing changes that portion of it.
By the way, Championship Worthy is what you could call
the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel, a ton of great
videos from many of our Fox Sports Radio shows. Just
search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube. You'll see a whole

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bunch of video highlights from our shows. And be sure
to subscribe so you always have instant access to our
Fox Sports.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Radio videos on YouTube. All of this raises one interesting thing.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
As much as we sit here and talk about and
so so much of the CEAR has been spent talking
about things that are wrong with the NBA. The NBA
right now is doing something that the NFL can't even imagine,
and they desperately want to try and figure out how
to accomplish the same thing. We'll tell you what it
is next. He's Buck Rising on Jason Fitzw're hanging out
with you on a Fox Sports Saturday on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
Two weeks ago, the Celtics, they were the favorites to
come out of the East, the defending NBA champion. If
you didn't think they were going to get it done
this year, then you for sure thought that they were
going to be at the front of the line in
twenty twenty six. Why wouldn't you. They're one of the
best teams in basketball. But now they're out an absolute

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disaster against the New York Knicks from Boston that sent
their future because of an injury to Jason Tatum, because
of some questions now about how they're going to fill
that role. That sent their future into a spiral. But
what it has also done is allowed the sport an
opportunity to crown another champion once again.

Speaker 5 (33:35):
And that is something that Jason Fits. He's Jason Fits
on Buck Rising.

Speaker 4 (33:38):
You listen to Fox Sports Radio on a Fox Sports Saturday.
That is something that FITZI was alluding to as to
the something that the NFL is after desperately and has
tried to successfully and you know, most years has successfully
orchestrated in its sport, but just new blood, different storylines,

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higher level of interest, broader national interest.

Speaker 5 (34:03):
Even though the brands.

Speaker 4 (34:04):
That are winning in the NFL, and they are brands
at the end of the day, are still the most
popular brands. There's nothing wrong with shaking the tree every
once in a while.

Speaker 5 (34:13):
That's what we're getting in the NBA.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
The postseason has been fun for so many different reasons.
And whatever Jason fitz may think of the New York
Sports Fans celebration, Okay, say, I know the nice thing
about Timothy Shalam before we continue with this one more
nice thing.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
He was the second best, third best. Willy Wonka Like.

Speaker 8 (34:37):
That for someone who hasn't taken an l over the
past like two years, it's it can't be this hard
to find something nice to say about him. Did you
see Dune two?

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Fits?

Speaker 3 (34:47):
I didn't see Dune one. I saw the original Dune
in the eighties. Like that's the like I did not.

Speaker 8 (34:52):
I mean even something like he's a good actor would suffice? Right?

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Is it that I don't really know? Like I honestly
like I fell asleep. I tried to watch Dune one
and I fell asleep. So I was like, all right,
I'm out on that.

Speaker 8 (35:02):
And like fashion style, n job.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
Yeah, no, he looks like a million bucks. He looks
like a million bucks. Yeah, Like, and he's like he's
a star. He walks into the room and he's a star.
I just, I just I can't tell, Like I, like
I said, I watch a lot of.

Speaker 8 (35:20):
Nicki Minaj's performance he did in middle school.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
I have never seen this Nicki Minaj performance in school.

Speaker 5 (35:26):
I like it just sounds like you're out of the culture,
is what I feel.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
He needs him.

Speaker 8 (35:33):
He needs some haters though, like I think he nobody
hates him, so I feel like you being his hater
that's needed.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
I'm just, I just, I'm just very Look, I grew
up in a very honest family. Like when I was
when I was little kid when I was ten years old,
humble brag and played Carnegie Hall. Like when I was
ten years old, I was an accomplished musician, and my
mom walked in when I was practicing for Carnegie Hall,
and my mom said, if that's the best you can
play the gd thing, just put it away today.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Like that's how I grew up.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
So I grew up like I came off stage after
competitions that I won the in the violin world as
a little kid, I came off stage and my mom
would be like, no, we're not celebrating that. I've heard
you play it better. It wasn't good enough. Like that's
just I grew up in a very blunt household. So
when you ask me to compliment Timothy shallow May, it's
not that I have anything.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
It's just I didn't see Dune.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
I didn't really like the version of Walkee he did,
Like it just wasn't that movie wasn't my thing right now? No, no, no,
like this not like I think it's the reason that
my friends don't invite me to their kids dance recital though,
Like I'll sit there and I'll be like, yeah, your
kid sucks and he's like, but they're twelve, and I'm like,
what do you I don't care, like you can't make
k can't dance.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
I mean, it's just look, I'm very honest.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
That's also I'd like I haven't seen enough of his
stuff to know what's good, or that I just don't know.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
The three of us collectively decided. I don't know how
Steve feels about this back in Los Angeles, but the
three of us at the very least have decided that
you're a hater.

Speaker 5 (36:55):
It's just it shouldn't be that hard.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
It shouldn't be like pulling teeth for you to say
something nice about Timothy Shallamack, Okay, well tim about tim
Timmy show, I feel like I already have. He is
a superstar. I'm jealous that he can make unlaced Timberlinds
into that big of a fashion statement. I'm jealous of
his seats at the next game. I'm jealous of the
way that he is willing to just throw himself into

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a crowd of New York sports fans whilst being held
by his waist by his security guard, just so they
don't take what is it? Lisan Algaive into the New
York streets out of the car that they are trying
to take him away.

Speaker 5 (37:32):
And I love the I love the vibe.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
I'm very I am very appreciative of the vibe. Nthy
shall see we're supposed to be talking about championships here.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
Well, you know what, Timothy Shallomey is a current champion,
like because he's a champion of life.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
You know, look look at that. That's a segment.

Speaker 5 (37:50):
But Jones just making appearance snack out fourth.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
Oh my god, I mean, what do you guys want
me to do?

Speaker 3 (37:56):
I just haven't seen enough of his work to be
if yousive been praised for we got him on his heels.

Speaker 5 (38:01):
We've got him on his heels.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
He was wrong about the Celtics, now he's wrong about Shallama.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
I'm gonna be honest.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
When Shallomay was hosting SNL again, I watch a lot
of Saturday Night Life. When he was hosting SNL, I
was like, oh.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
What's he done? Like that's that's where I was on it. Like,
I just I didn't know. I you know, it's okay
to there's certain you know movies. It's a little bit
of a blind spot for me, that's all. You know.

Speaker 8 (38:23):
Well, you see him on blind Spot book. Did you
see him on college game Day? And he was you know,
he came talking about Parker Navarro. He had stats on
quarterbacks from the MAC like.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
They Yeah, the only thing with college game Day is
there's a prominent country music artist. It was on game
day that picked the most games right that year that
he was on game day, which wasn't as much of
an impressive feat considering he called me the day before
like he got he got the picks from me and Herbie.
So like a lot of times when the guests go
on game day, they're talking to their buddies before they
go on game I just I didn't know this. I

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didn't quite stop it. I cater might could have been
that's sure.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
I love. I'm not a hater. I'm just okay, fine.

Speaker 8 (39:05):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
Parody really exists, but it's not in the NFL. We'll
tell you more about it. He's Buck Rising, I'm Jason
fitz Less, Timothy shallow May maybe on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
The NFL is the biggest sport in America, and that's
not even close. We all know that, and in fact,
most of the time we can look at the NFL
and the model and how they do what they do
and say, man, maybe everybody should emulate it. It's rare
that the NFL does something that everyone else does better.
But the fact is, at the end of the day,

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one thing became abundantly clear last night. The NBA is
kicking the NFL's butt at one important thing, and that
is championship level parody. He's Buck Rising, I'm Jason fitz
hear me out.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
We'll explain this. We're coming at your.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
Life from the Fox Sports Studio on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 5 (40:00):
Buck.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
Seven straight years, the NBA has given us a different
champion seven straight years. So we know that that's gonna
happen now because the Celtics lost, which means they will
not be defending. Obviously, the Nuggets could be a repeat champion,
but it wouldn't be a back to back champion. So
seven straight years we haven't had a back to back champion.
Everything continually changes in the NBA, and that's only funny
to me because for all the things the NBA does wrong,

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parody is one of the things they're doing right. The
ability to give us a different champion constantly versus the NFL,
which is over here telling us.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
All the time. We have parody, we have parity, we
have barty.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
Because the middle class of the NFL is constantly fluctuating.
You can go from lower class to middle class to
lower middle class constantly.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
But if we're being honest, for the last forty years.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
I mean, there was a dynasty in the seventies of
the Steelers. In to a certain degree of the Raiders. There
was a dynasty in the eighties of the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Dynasty in the nineties or the forty nine ers might
be flipping that.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
Actually a dynasty of the Patriots that lasted forever, and
now we have a dynasty to you, the Chiefs, like
the NFL continually promises.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Us parody, but they don't really give us that. At
the championship level. They give us basically the same group
of teams that are always going to be the best.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
The NBA is giving us a different champion every single year,
and they seem to be coming from different non traditional
NBA markets, Like this is all a beautiful thing that
should be celebrated.

Speaker 4 (41:20):
Yes, I don't disagree with you, but it's it's not
to me really comparable FITSI because in the NBA, you
can impact the outcome of a game with one single player.
And I know that most people would argue that you
can impact the outcome of a game in the NFL

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with one single player, but it is significantly harder to do.
I mean, we just saw Patrick Mahomes is the most
talented quarterback I've ever seen in my lifetime.

Speaker 5 (41:52):
Tom Brady is the best winner. Right.

Speaker 4 (41:54):
It's kind of a different version of the Lebron and
Jordan conversation. Jordan is the greatest winner that we know.
Lebron is the most talented player. I think most people
would agree, except I'm sure that Jordan people would freak
the hell out.

Speaker 5 (42:05):
But we don't have to get into that just year.
Twitter's going to be Yeah, that's fine.

Speaker 4 (42:10):
People are just tweeting me about you don't look anything
like your voice sounds at this point in time. That's
basically the bulk of the messages that I've been getting
since we started doing the Fox thing. But we just
saw Patrick Mahomes go to the super Bowl, the most
talented quarterback most people have ever seen in their football
consuming lives, and get his ass whipped because he's not
on the better team. There are so many different things

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that can be impacted throughout the course of an NFL
game that are completely outside of Patrick Mahomes's control, to
the point where it creates this lack of or this
different kind of a comparison where one player in the
NBA can be the difference, and of course the quarterback
in the NFL can be the difference, but it's so
much harder for the quarterback to actually do.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
We're sitting though, in this current conversation talking about all
these conspiracy theorists that want to sit there and say, oh,
the league wanted to make sure that Luca went to
the Lakers, so that the Lakers were protected with the Star,
and then they were going to make sure the MAVs
won the lottery, so the MAVs are rewarded with Cooperati.

Speaker 5 (43:09):
Who is denied.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
Okay, No, everybody's denying this is not at all what happened. Yeah,
but a lot of that is what happened. Okay, But realistically,
to your point, I think it's a it's a valid one. Look,
if you if you are able to hit on a
quarterback and a coach at the same time that speak
the same language and have a special connection, you are
going to win a.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Ton of Super Bowls. That's just the way it's going
to be.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
Like that was Bill Walsh and Joe Montana, Bill Walsh
and Steve Young and obviously Belichick and Tom Brady and
Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes. Like I continually say that
instead of just making a quarterback conversation, I think it's
like a tag team in pro wrestling.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
You got to have two guys that are really good,
not just one.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
I understand why that leads to dynastic moments, right, one
hundred percent. That makes sense in my It's usually a
Hall of Fame coach with a Hall of Fame caliber quarterback,
and that leads you to massive success the NBA. You
need one great play, you need a Giannis, and you
can win a championship. But realistically, it doesn't change the
fact that Giannis wins won. He doesn't win eighteen. You know,

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Jannis isn't winning six in a row. When when the
Bucks won their chip, all of the conversation was, well,
how many they're gonna win now? And now it's does
Giannis want to go somewhere else to try and win
more championships moving forward? Like yes, I mean yes, I
mean for the sake for the sake of all of us.
I'd love to see Jannis continually be in the NBA
championship conversation, even you just mentioned Lebron, Like Lebron cannot

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single handedly will his.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
Team to a championship.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
It just isn't gonna work that way, right, So if
you if you look at it, all I'm saying is
that the way we critique the NBA, it makes it
sound like the NBA doesn't do anything right. But parody
is the objective of most sports. Most sports want to
have They want to have parody. This is interesting actually,
as I think that, well maybe in my mind most
sports want to have parody in the fact that everybody

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feels like they're in the running, and then at the
very end, the the biggest stars and the biggest markets win.

Speaker 4 (45:04):
I wonder what is actually better for the interest level
in a league to have a dynastic figure. In this case,
we'll just use the most recent example, the Kansas City Chiefs,
that everybody is trying to knock off and everybody is chasing,
and once you slay the dragon, you're the greatest to
ever do it, like this year's Philadelphia Eagles, and it
doesn't hurt that they did it in dominant fashion, right,

(45:27):
But the idea that the NFL is so fascinated the
rest of the NFL is so fascinated week in week
out in who's going to be the team to knock
off the Chiefs? Are the Chiefs going to survive this week?
Versus the NBA, where you're not really sure what to
expect it. Obviously, the thing that is most impacting the

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fact that we're not talking about the Boston Celtics being
in this conversation is the fact that Jason Tatum ruptured
his achilles and that's a terrible situation and something that's
probably going to take a full year for him to
get back to what we believed Jason Tatum is, especially
what is he twenty seven, twenty eight at this point
in time. It's just an unfortunate injury with the timing
in what their competitive cycle should be as a franchise.

(46:10):
But I'm not really sure what the answer to that
question is. What is better for the interest in the
league chasing a dominant champion that everybody is collectively working
towards trying to knock off, or just kind of the
throw your hands up in the air, put the ball
on the court and see what happens in any given series.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
I'm starting to think through this process.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
And by the way, Preller forever tweeted us a sad
parody sucks dynasties give us something more to root foreign
against parody socialism and sports form and completely Unamerican socialism reference.
I mean, calm down, all right, just relax. But the
other side of that, I will say is that I
think the answer is not parody at the top, because
I do think that having a dynasty to root for

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and against works.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
Like when Golden State was winning.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
Chip after chip after chip, people loved it and hated it.
I think having a top one percent of your league
that is a dynasty everybody's chasing is important. Actually, where
I think parody is important is not for the top.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
It's for the bottom.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
You can't have a Washington Wizards team that is just
gonna be bad for as long as they're gonna be
bad before they try and rework anything. In the NFL,
you rarely have that. It is rare. Look the Raiders
for example, again my fandom, they can suck.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
We all know that, but.

Speaker 3 (47:25):
Every once in a while they pop through and go
to the playoffs and every once in a while they
get to seven wins, and like most of these bad
teams we talk about still have years where they're like, okay,
got seven eight wins. Yeah, you know, we're not picking
first every single year. Where you can't have. Where you
need parody is to secure the middle class. Parody in
the middle class is what I think makes the NFL
thrive because right now today, a Washington Wizards fan knows

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that they have zero hope in a championship next.

Speaker 8 (47:51):
Year, the year after probably the year after that.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
A San Antonio Spurs fan knows that even with Wemby,
their chance of actually winning a championship.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
I mean, that's what five years away. Right.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
If you're a New Orleans Pelicans fan, you've had Zion
for how many years whatever, that looks like, Okay, you
thought you were getting somebody that was gonna make you relevant,
yet again didn't work. The only thing that happens for
the Pelicans is eventually it'll be like Anthony Davis, He'll
go somewhere else, right Like, So, this is what happens
to the bottom, the bottom feeders of the NBA. They
never get out of being bottom feeders in the NFL today,

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right now, I've got a buddy that's a Giants fan
that was trying to convince the entire group text today
that this team is gonna make a huge resurgence and
get themselves into the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
And you can walk yourself.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
Into that if you're an NFL fan, because parody allows
you to believe that your team won't be the worst
team in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
And that's part of what drives everybody into Week one.

Speaker 3 (48:42):
You know, you cover the Titans, the Titans are a disaster,
but you can't tell me that Titans fans aren't convinced
today right now? You know what wait wait, wait, no, no, no, man,
with this cam Ward situation, we got going made some
big offseason acquisitions. We're gonna get to eight wins, and
if we get to eight wins, we got a real
shot of the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
Like that's what they're convince themselves.

Speaker 4 (49:00):
Oh my god, it's like you dipped into my mentions
and pulled out the most optim and it's true. It's
absolutely true. And that's you know, that's inherent in being
a sports fan.

Speaker 5 (49:11):
And maybe you.

Speaker 4 (49:12):
Can facilitate that more fair enough, you can facilitate that
more in the NFL than you can the NBA. But
the question to me is is more wider scale. And
I know that this conversation took on new life as
it does each and every year at this time because
you're coming on the heels of the NBA Draft Lottery,
and then people will start to have the discussion of

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which I imagine we're going to get into at some
point this evening about should the NFL incorporate the NBA
Draft lottery, the draft lottery format and things like that.
So what's more important to these leagues? Because in the
NBA or really where they have the draft lotteries, it
seems more important to prop up to at least give
the opportunity to the bigger markets to get the best

(49:55):
chance at acquiring that star power, because it's more important
the leagues for the stars to be in a place
where they're the most visible, whereas the NFL. You understand
that the NFL is so widely trafficked that if these
players are actually good enough to pay attention to that
even though Cam more than number one overall pick, doesn't
have any primetime games, he can still provide himself the
opportunity to play himself into primetime. Allah what twenty eleven

(50:19):
Cam Newton, who also did not have a single primetime
game as an NFL rookie, and then we understand how
he made himself a marquee athlete in America's most popular sport.
So I think it's more a question as to what's
more important to the leagues is what they're trying to
get the attention on, versus how fans are consuming it.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
I was asked a question on a radio interview last
week why NFL teams never have to be concerned with
market size, And it's such a true point that you
just made, Like nobody sits there and says, well, Patrick
Mahomes in Kansas City, that's a waste, but we do
say Yannis in Milwaukee, that's a waste. And then we
sat there when Cooper flag was going to be drafted
and I was covering the Final four. There were people

(51:00):
back at the Final four. There were people sitting there saying, man,
you don't want him to get buried in Utah. No
one would ever say you don't want the top overall
pick to get buried in a small market in the NFL,
because there's no such thing as a small market in
the NFL. All the markets are huge, and that's accomplished
in part because of the parody that they have.

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Speaker 2 (51:37):
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See What's old is new again?

Speaker 3 (51:41):
Okay, We're going to keep the conversation going on the
NBA all night because it is a big, big time
in the NBA. But there's massive news in the NFL
this week that came out that will could impact the
playoffs this year and it would be staggering.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
We'll tell you about it next. He's Buck Rising. I'm
Jason Fitzbuckham Fits hanging out on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 4 (52:01):
Who the hell is Jason Asbel, Who the hell is
Timothy Shallomey? Welcome back to a Fox Sports Saturday. He's
Jason Fitz, I'm Buck rising in Minneapolis this coming week.
NFL owners, they're going to have a chance to do
some serious, what I think is damage to the postseason
seeding in the decades to come. There's a proposal on

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the table from one NFL club that just realized, Hey,
I'm playing in an incredibly difficult division, and I would
like to push the odds a little more in my
favor if I've got one of the best teams in football.
So it's the Detroit Lions Jason Fitz that are proposing
the four division champions and three wild cards in each
conference to make the playoffs. In the NFL, seven teams

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would then be seated strictly by record, rather than assigning
the top seeds to the division winners, which is how
it has been done since what nineteen sixty seven since
the merger, with the wild cards to follow. If the
teams have the same record, being a division champion would
be the first tiebreaker, regardless of the head to head record,

(53:09):
and Detroit's proposal also calls for things to then be
receded after the first round. Now we know that Roger Goodell,
the commissioner of the NFL, conducted an unofficial vote on
the idea Back in March when the owners' meetings were
in Palm Beach, I was there for that. There was
some hemming and hang about it, and a handful of

(53:32):
teams that seemed based on the conversations that me and
a lot of other reporters down there had with people
around the league, it sounded like a handful of teams
were ready to approve the proposal. But now at this point,
as we get ready to see if the owners are
actually going to push it through, which they'll need twenty
four of thirty two NFL owners to vote this thing through,

(53:54):
I wonder how you feel about the idea of them
reconfiguring the NFL postseason. Where the NFL postseason feels like
it's in a pretty good place right now.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
Look, this is not surprising to me that Detroit is
the one suggesting this, because.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Look at the path of the North for the.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
Next few years. Detroit feels like they're in a window.
They just watched the Vikings win fourteen games, and for
that they were rewarded with the opportunity to go on
the road. They don't want that to happen to them.
Chicago looks much improved this year, right and we know,
Green Bay looks like they're in a pretty good situation.

Speaker 4 (54:27):
Does this Caleb Williams know how to watch film? I
don't know if you read that article by Seth where
Chris shamwore Chicago coach has just got to put him
in a room and said.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
All right, figure it out, Bud anyway, which I also
love that RG three was like, this is coaching malpractice.
And then Kurt Warner came back and quote tweeted that
and said, no one ever showed me how.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
To watch films. I don't even know everybody's arguing.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
About everybody, I believe, but I do think that this
shows you Detroit knows that they're up against it and
they can win a lot of games and be forced
to go on the road, and they don't want to
have to do that, which also buck makes sense because
a's at some point we do.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
It used to be such a rarity that.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
A bad team would make the playoffs, Like when the
first team with the losing record made the playoffs, it
was like, well, this is a once in a lifetime thing,
And when the next team with the losing record made
the playoffs, it's like, oh, this is a twice in
a lifetime thing. But now when you see it's not
even just about having a losing record, like simply the
right now, based on what we think we know today,
I would make the argument that it is likely that

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the winner of the AFC South, for example, is probably
not going to be as good as some of the
other teams in the AFC.

Speaker 4 (55:32):
Are going to shut your mouth, You shut your mouth
right now. Just why is it always everything in the
NFL changes? And this division I love in Nashville. For
people who are listening to Fox Sports nationally this evening,
this division is cheeks.

Speaker 5 (55:45):
You're in and year out, you can't do anything to say,
but it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
But at some point you look at, okay, so this year,
if we end up with a situation where man, all
of a sudden, if you're the Lions and you're looking
around and you saying, well, you want me to go
on the road and take on And let's say the
NFC South is also bad all as many people think
it might be. I think that's a little disrespectful to
Tampa Bay. But fine, let's just say that the NFC
South is bad. And now you're like, well, we're clearly

(56:09):
a better football team that won more football games. There
has to be a solution to this, and right now,
I think everybody's shell shocked by the reality last year
that there are a lot of bad football teams. Like
if you look at the first twelve picks in the draft,
it was a reminder that there were ten teams that
lost double digit games.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Like there's just bad teams all over the league right now.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
Now that bounces and changes, as we talked about earlier
with parody, But Buck, I think if you're the league,
you got to look at it and say, hey, I
want to protect my best teams. I want to make
sure that we do everything we can to have chaos
but still have the best teams end up in the
Super Bowl wherever possible. We don't want bad teams to
consistently find their way through. So I think this proposal
makes sense.

Speaker 4 (56:51):
For that, But I don't really think that at the
crux of it. And again, Albert Breer was the first
on the reporting on this at Sports illustri there's some
really good information in there. I don't think it's it's
about as much. Maybe that's an ancillary benefit. I don't
think it's as much about that as it is or
at least as it seems to be in trying to

(57:13):
keep late games more relevant in the regular season with
this what they're calling an open seeding system, because if
the and Rear lays this out in his piece, in
the current system, Houston, as you mentioned, the AFC South
went into Week eighteen locked into the fourth seed, right,
so they played the Tennessee Titans here in Nashville in

(57:35):
Week eighteen.

Speaker 5 (57:36):
Outcome didn't matter other than for the Titans.

Speaker 4 (57:38):
They would have been able to secure the number one
overall pick if they'd have lost the game, and they
were able to do that, and then Joe Milton went
out there and beat the Buffalo Bills because the Bills
had no interest in letting the Patriots get the number
one over all picks.

Speaker 5 (57:49):
VFL.

Speaker 4 (57:49):
We love to see it, but in this scenario, Houston
would not be locked in in Week eighteen. In the
new system, seeds numbers four, five, six, or seven would
have been possibilities at that point for a division champion.
Same for the Rams into Week eighteen, they knew they'd
be the number three or the number four. They could

(58:10):
have been four or five, six or seven in that system.
It seems there are a couple of different reasons why
the NFL is exploring this, but it seems to be
more about just keeping juice in the regular season late
in the season as much as it is tinkering with
the postseason at this point.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
I mean, that's been a crux for the NFL for years.
Their decision to take the last game of the season
and make it only divisional matchups and make all of
the times TBD is one of the smartest things I
think the NFL has done in the last twenty years.
They've forced the last weekend to be interesting. What they
don't want is everybody to essentially tune out into secret
lives and Mormon wives. They want people actually paying attention

(58:53):
to what is happening.

Speaker 4 (58:54):
I still the field in that moment. That's what I
believe you. I don't believe you at all. No way
in hell you couldn't have come up with a more
random combination of words to throw together into a television
show title.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
I cannot believe you didn't know like looks. It's a
shame that I don't know more of the great work
of Timothy Shallony. I will acknowledge that you need to
start watching more trash TV. If you don't know, like
once you've watched like, you know, love on the spectrum,
then you'll start to get all of the ads for
things like secret lives and Mormon Wives. That's the way
this thing works. Like you got to watch a little
trash TV, then the algorithm will be like, oh, by

(59:27):
the way, you have no life, go ahead watch this.

Speaker 4 (59:31):
I feel like I need the piano tinkle in the
background as I prepare to tell people that I don't
watch trash TV, I DVR sixty minute.

Speaker 8 (59:38):
I need to roll in that piano tinkle just so
we can have that for you guys.

Speaker 3 (59:41):
I'm just also like the more we say tle on
the show, the happier I get.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
Like we just keep saying tinkle over and over.

Speaker 4 (59:49):
No, you could do a lot worse than having that
piano noise ready to rocky, because there's gonna be a
lot of moments and in our time together. That I
sound pretentious and dvring sixty minutes instead of w Secret
Lives of Mormon Wives.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
Jd are sixty minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
That's right, you still watch sixty minutes every week.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
But I'm like, you're doing the nonficulties.

Speaker 5 (01:00:12):
Oh yeah, for sure, for sure, what are we doing
here like that in Farid Zakaria's GPS great show, not as.

Speaker 8 (01:00:22):
Where you cut it.

Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
I can't do it, not care it's too much for me. Jersey, Sure, well, yeah,
that's the bane of my existence. That that's still I mean, listen,
I I can appreciate that other people like it, and
I have no interest in any of that stuff I feel.

Speaker 5 (01:00:36):
I have tried to watch what is it Love is Blind?

Speaker 4 (01:00:40):
I made it about ten minutes into a Love is
Blind episode before I realized, oh my god, I can
feel my brain melting.

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
I think part of it for me is that I
use TV as background noise all the time. I don't
really want to focus on anything, so trash TV allows
me to use it as background noise. I think there
is one other thing that the NFL really does right
at the end of the year, by the way, that
is key and needs to stay exactly the way it is.
We'll tell you about it in a second, but first,
Steve de Seger, feel free to chime in on secret
lives and Mormon wives, Steve, but also get us caught

(01:01:09):
up on what's going on in the world of succer.

Speaker 7 (01:01:10):
I got nothing to offer there and no team from
the state of Utah is playing tonight to the NHL
Playoffs second round. Jets have taken a one nothing lead
at Dallas their mid second period. This is Game six
of their series, Dallas leading the series three games to two.
There's a Game seven on Sunday night with Florida at Toronto.
The winner goes to the East Final against Carolina. Alex
Ovechkin will return to play for Washington next season, his

(01:01:33):
twenty first.

Speaker 5 (01:01:34):
With the Caps.

Speaker 7 (01:01:35):
The NBA's second Round ends on Sunday with a Game
seven Denver at Oklahoma City. Denvers Aaron Gordon questionable for
Sunday with a strained hamstring. In a WNBA season opener
Indiana Beach Chicago ninety three point fifty eight, Kaitlin Clark
a triple double journalism the favorite, won the Preakness coming
from behind late. Scottie Scheffler leads the PGA Championship by
three strokes after a third round sixty five. John ram

(01:01:58):
Is five shots back, rising to Shambo six behind. In
Major League Soccer, Toronto was a six to one winner
over Montreal. Chicago won at Charlotte final minutes. I should
say for to one is the lead and in the
UFL Michigan six and two one at Houston thirty to
eighteen to Major League Baseball. The Angels are out to
a three to nzing lead against Clayton Kershaw at Dodger Stadium,

(01:02:21):
bottom of the first.

Speaker 5 (01:02:22):
The Mets in New York.

Speaker 7 (01:02:24):
Against the Yankees got a run top of the ninth
and beat the Yanks three to two. Cubs and Blue
Jays each one. Today, Raise a winner and the Nationals
won ten six at Baltimore. The Orioles before the game
fired manager Brandon Hyde. Tonight, Philadelphia beat the Pirates five
to two, Reds and Cardinals each one. In progress, the

(01:02:44):
Diamondbacks only lead eight to six against the Rockies, but
it's only bottom of the fourth inning. The Rockies on
the road two and twenty one this year. On Fox TV,
going to the eighth inning, the Braves are up six
to four at Boston and to the ninth at Texas
Rangers five to one over the Stros, who've committed three errors.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
Back to you, he's Buck Rising on Jason Fitz were
hanging out with the Fox Sports Saturday on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, Buck,
you were mentioning things late in the season. They continued
to keep people interested and invested in the NFL, and
that's part of what this schedule or part of what
this proposed playoff for receding is part of the logic

(01:03:21):
behind it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
I want to take.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
Another level to this, though, and mention what the draft
does to the end of the season, because.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
You just glossed over it a little bit, but Titans.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
Fans were absolutely invested in every single thing that happened
in Week eighteen. Fact, if you were a Titans fan,
you were watching multiple games, and yet you had to
because you had a shot at the number one overall pick.
Raiders fans three weeks into the left in the season
had a shot at the number one overall pick fans
were losing their mind watching every single second, watching hoping.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
They were hate watching, They were.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
Hoping to watch their favorite team lose just to help
their draft pick. And I think we have to remember
that right now, because over the course of the last
five or six week of the season, for the teams
that are the worst, what you are watching for is
the draft. And that's why I absolutely abhor all the
way to my core, this concept that the NFL should

(01:04:12):
emulate the NBA lottery in the draft.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
I cannot tell you. Let's start with.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
Some specific numbers. This year, with Cooper flag on the line,
the most important draft pick we've seen since what zion
I guess the most important draft pick we've seen a
lottery that unbelievably gives us the Dallas Mavericks. The lottery
broadcast viewership was down six percent, So guess what when

(01:04:38):
it comes to actually watching things, even NBA diehards aren't
really watching the lottery the way that you think people
think that they are. In fact, the viewership just in
general was around two million people. Two million people is nothing,
And then look at the draft viewership. Overall, about four
million people watch the NBA draft right team point six

(01:05:01):
million people watch Night one of the NFL Draft. This
conversation that the NFL needs to do anything like a
lottery is so stupid because, first and foremost, dude, like,
right now, if you're a Wizards fan and you're going
into this draft and you know that you just got
screwed by a lottery, you now hate your pick. It
doesn't matter who you get, and so you personally buck

(01:05:23):
you cover the Titans. You see the excitement that Tennessee
has over camboard. You know damn well that if a
lottery had cost them that first overall pick, and instead,
let's say they were picking sixth right because of the lottery,
and they get a player like Ashton Genty, the draft
plays the exact same Ashton Genty can energize an entire
fan base. When you know that you're picking six and

(01:05:45):
that's the player you think you hope you can get,
you spend months looking forward to getting who you're gonna
get it that pick. If instead you're walking into that
sixth pick knowing that you were the worst team in
the NFL, you deserve the first overall pick. You didn't
get the first overall pick. Now you hate whoever gets
to that pick anyway, You are anti that pick from
the minute it happens. Why would the NFL ever try

(01:06:06):
to do something like that which will lessen their product,
will lessen their excitement, will lessen the ability to root
for something for months leading up to it, Like it
is mind blowing, and all of these national experts, I'm
looking at the greenies of the world. I watch these
monologues like y'all that are suggesting it are so out
of touch with what fans actually want and see that
it blows my mind.

Speaker 5 (01:06:27):
No, but it makes me think that something, something.

Speaker 4 (01:06:29):
Larger is at work here as to why this idea
keeps coming up other than you know, it's it's May,
mid May, sports talk media, sports media discourse, right, just
to talk, compare one thing to another and see if
there's an argument to be made.

Speaker 5 (01:06:43):
Other than that.

Speaker 4 (01:06:45):
It again comes back to fitsie, what does the NFL
if the NFL were to ever consider it? And I
do not think that the NFL would ever consider it,
But if the NFL were, my question would be, all right,
why are you more interested in seeing Let's just take
cam War the number one overall pick.

Speaker 5 (01:07:04):
Right, he's here in Tennessee.

Speaker 4 (01:07:05):
It's the least I would argue, it's the least renefit
relevant nationally NFL franchise out there. The NFL has no
interest in propping up the Tennessee Titans, right, That's not
a thing cam Ward could have been had by the
New York Giants. There's a scenario in which you can
undermine a franchise like Tennessee that you don't care about.
If the New York Giants, who were not able to

(01:07:27):
trade up for the number one overall pick, just miraculously
happened to end up with the number one overall pick
by nature of an NFL draft lottery. If the league
is more invested in propping up its major markets, New York,
the Giants are more important for the league to have success,
for the league to rate, for the league and its
television partners than Tennessee, who the number one overall pick

(01:07:47):
can't even get a sniff at a primetime game. The
only reason he's playing in the three o'clock window is
all is because the AFC South plays the AFC West
this year, because they're forced to put him in a
three o'clock window.

Speaker 5 (01:07:56):
Otherwise he'd just be a noon.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
Are we partying in Vegas? Meet you Vegas? Tight?

Speaker 5 (01:08:02):
Yeah, it's the first.

Speaker 4 (01:08:03):
That's one of three NFL stadiums I haven't done yet.
That's on the list. The Giant Rumba.

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
Look, the Giant Rumba, Meet you Vegas for the weekend?
Like I think this, this, this needs to happen. Look,
I mentioned earlier that market size doesn't matter, and the
Lovable Loser tweeted me and said, what on earth are
you even saying?

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
Right now?

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
There are small markets in the NFL where quarterbacks get
drafted and get buried. You could even argue it costs careers.
Please hand over whatever you're smoking, good sir. I never
hand over whatever I'm smoking until we're friends, because I
pay good money for this, So you're not getting my
weed for free.

Speaker 4 (01:08:34):
Number two ten years for him to get to pass
it to me.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
You're right, I'm not puffpuff give. I'm pufpuff keep, like
that's just a general rule.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
I'm PuF puff keep.

Speaker 3 (01:08:43):
But the other side of this is I googled it
just because curiosity killed the cat. The smallest NFL media
markets number one smallest NFL media market, Green Bay, the
number two smallest NFL media market, Buffalo number three, New
Orleans number four, Jacksonville, number five, Vegas. Now, nobody sat

(01:09:08):
there when Trevor Lawrence was drafted. I sat there and
said the Jags would kill Trevor Lawrence before Trevor Lawrence
would let down the Jacks.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
That's turned out to be true.

Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
But nobody sat there and said, oh my god, Trevor
Lawrence can't go to Jacksonville. That's a small market. Whatever
are they going to do. Nobody would have said, oh
my god, you can't send cam Ward to the Raiders
that's the fifth smallest market. Like, certainly the packers are legendary.
It doesn't matter how big their market size. It's like,
this is what the NFL does. The NFL can market
anybody to anywhere, so they don't need the lottery system.

(01:09:40):
And I, frankly, I don't see why the Jerry Jones
of the world would ever agree to vote for something
that could take them out of the running for a
pick that they've earned by being so bad.

Speaker 4 (01:09:52):
I guess it's just the logic of earning something for
being so bad like that, And it's not you know,
it's not the anti tanking argument because tanking does not
happen that.

Speaker 5 (01:10:03):
Way in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (01:10:03):
The Dolphins tried it and they lost draft compensation over it,
and there was significant fines handed out over it. Like
if these things are broached in the National Football League,
they are pretty summarily swatted down because there's one too
much gambling money involved in the NFL right now for
that even to be or any professional sport for that
even to be.

Speaker 5 (01:10:22):
Anywhere near the dialogue.

Speaker 4 (01:10:25):
But two, I guess the only other argument for it
in this situation is you can still in the NFL
different than the NBA or the NHL, for example, two
leagues that do the draft lottery situation, you cannot get
a game changing, a franchise changing player at the fifth
overall slot. Right in the NFL, you can in almost

(01:10:47):
every draft, right, Patrick Mahomes is a tenth overall pick,
Josh Allen was, if I'd remember correctly, outside of the
top five. Like, these are things in the NFL that
are more viable to explore than they are in either
of those two other sports that currently employ the lottery.
So you would just look at those teams in that
league and say, well, you don't just get the right

(01:11:10):
to draft the best player because you sucked the most
the previous season. You will have to be better at
the scouting, at the drafting, at all the different support
things that you are going to do. If you end
up picking fourth or fifth or sixth, then that certain situation,
depending on how the lottery would play itself out, it's
incumbent upon you to be better rather than for us

(01:11:32):
to uplift you.

Speaker 3 (01:11:33):
There are countless examples over the last five years of
terrible football teams winning games near the end of the
season that took them out of the running for the
first overall picks, coaches and players tried to save their jobs,
and fan bases absolutely yelled at the top of their lungs.
And they do that because, as you mentioned, tanking is
impossible in the NFL, which is why anybody that says
here and says a team like the Saints might be

(01:11:54):
passing on a quarterback and this year's draft so that
they can go get arched next year. No, it doesn't
work that way. Like the concept of trying to tank
in the NFL is so broken, and the process of
the draft is so perfect, and I know that drafting
isn't perfect, but when it comes to the marketing of it,
when it comes to utilizing college football as your marketing

(01:12:14):
arm for the players that are coming in free marketing, basically,
when it comes to the hype around it, when it
comes to the numbers on podcasts and shows for draft content,
like the NFL draft is untouchable. So just because people
that are around it all the time get bored with it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
Doesn't mean it isn't substantial.

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
Speaking of getting bored with it, a lot of people
got bored with the schedule, but it did come out
this week and there was some substantial news within that schedule.
We'll tell you about it next these Buck Rising, I'm
Jason Fitz. We're hanging out with you, bucking fits on
a Fox Sports Saturday. The NFL schedule release is not
something that usually particularly excites me, but there's plenty you

(01:12:52):
can learn when it comes out, and we learned at
this point pretty substantially that there are a few brands
the NFL has absolutely bought in, and there are a
few brands that the NFL are going to make sure
you get to see all of that you could ever want.
It's a statement. He's Buck Rising, I'm Jason fitzbucking Fits,
hanging out with you on a Fox Sports Saturday. But look,

(01:13:16):
we all knew that the Chiefs would get a lot
of windows, and by windows, I mean areas where they
are the only team on TV, but still to see
even before flexing, to see that eight times the Chiefs
get their own window really made me think of something
that one of the league executives said to Yahoo Sports
Charles Robinson last year that at this point the Chiefs

(01:13:38):
are like printing money. Kansas City is like the Cowboys.
You can put them on TV and the world will watch.
I have to remind everybody. The Chiefs did not win
the Super Bowl, but when you look at eight games
in prime windows, it's real. Like we spent the last
two years, we spent every week sitting here talking about
how broken the Chiefs look until they get to the
playoffs and it just doesn't look right, doesn't look easy. Well,

(01:14:01):
apparently it looks pretty in the league because eight times
putting them out there even before they could flex anything else,
and shows you that the league is going to make
sure that we all have Chiefs fever or fatigue.

Speaker 4 (01:14:12):
Well, that's that's the thing, right, You can watch them
for both reasons. You can be Kansas City has a
and continues to grow a massive fan base because of
how much success they've had because.

Speaker 5 (01:14:23):
Of the star power of their players.

Speaker 4 (01:14:25):
Obviously, we don't it's not just about Patrick Mahomes, right,
Travis Kelcey has obviously entered a new level of super stardom,
and that is going to attract all different elements that
the league did not previously have and could not previously grasp.

Speaker 5 (01:14:39):
And now they've got their.

Speaker 4 (01:14:40):
Grubby little fingers fingers all over it and they want
don't want to let it go. And Taylor Swift on
TV as much as humanly possible, no matter how much
our president, our current president, tweets about the impact that
he's had on her hotness. I don't know if you
caught that over the course of the week, Fitzy.

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
But we're not somehow I missed, you know, That's God.

Speaker 3 (01:14:58):
I'm glad sometimes I say off of as much of
the social media as I can.

Speaker 4 (01:15:02):
You know, honestly, I would advocate against that. I think
it made me laugh out loud just because of the ridiculous,
ridiculousness of it.

Speaker 5 (01:15:09):
But that's neither here nor there, I am.

Speaker 4 (01:15:13):
I mean, we knew this about the Chiefs though, right,
mahomes Is is polarizing.

Speaker 5 (01:15:17):
He's not.

Speaker 4 (01:15:18):
He's not Tom Brady. Right, he's not Bill Belichick. Andy
Reid is not Bill Belichick. They don't come with the
negative connotations that they're the previous dynasty did right where
it's unlikable coach, unlikable quarterback that nobody roots for, even
though he was the plucky underdog for the first couple
of championships that he was able to win. It comes

(01:15:42):
without the deflate gate, all the other gates that the
Patriots are associated with, the cheating and the tarnishing of
their legacies, but they are still polarizing to a degree.
The fact that the Cowboys are still in this conversation
is crazy to me, But I guess that's Jerry his
business model, and good on him. He understands more about

(01:16:02):
how to make money and how to attract attention on
a football team. At least from a football standpoint, that
hasn't been relevant almost in my entire lifetime, given the
last time that they won a championship and just how
rarely since then they've been able to win playoff games.
At this point, we're going to get a healthy dose
of Chiefs. It's teams like the Falcons being on national

(01:16:24):
television five different times this year, And I know you
look at their opponents and you say, well, those aren't
really Falcons games, right, Those are more about who the
Falcons are playing as opposed to the Atlanta Falcons being
nationally televised five different times.

Speaker 5 (01:16:38):
It's the schedule this year is interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:16:40):
My honestly biggest takeaway outside of that we're going to
be force fed Chiefs no matter what, is how much
juice Amazon has with the league, Given how much they
are now paying for Thursday Night football Thursday Night football
has always.

Speaker 5 (01:16:54):
Been the dregs of the league, right, I know it.

Speaker 4 (01:16:57):
I've covered plenty of Titans Jags games on Thursday Night
in Week three in the Rain with Marcus Mariota and
Gardner Minshew to understand what it is Thursday night football
used to be for. But now when you look at
the slate and understanding that Amazon is paying, I think
at this point north of eighty million per game. You've
got the Packers and the Commanders. In Week two, you've

(01:17:19):
got the Dolphins and the Bills. In Week three, You've
got all manner of great games, Chargers, Vikings, Broncos, Raiders, Bears,
and Eagles. Games that should have a lot of juice
no matter what point in the season that they are
being played.

Speaker 5 (01:17:33):
And you know, at the end of the day, money
is the answer all of your questions.

Speaker 3 (01:17:37):
Yeah, I mean, Amazon's going to figure out a way
to continue and grow and grow there. I also think
it's curious Washington to Commanders get eight standalone windows. Also,
they get a lot of windows. Jaden Daniels are superstar,
but Warren Sharp and Sharp Analytics pointed out that last
year was an outlier, maybe historically one of the luckiest
seasons we've ever seen from a team. If Washington takes

(01:17:57):
even a baby step back, book, that's going to be
a lot of bad TV that we just got.

Speaker 4 (01:18:02):
Yeah, but I mean, listen, I'd rather be new bad
TV than the Jets bad TV, right, Like I've been
force fed worst football in my life at this point
in time than the at least the Washington Commanders are
new and still a little bit different. Hey, listen, hey,
and Buddy, you have to understand this better than most. Okay, like,
at least if Washington collapses, that.

Speaker 5 (01:18:24):
Would be you know, Unfortunately for Washington, they.

Speaker 8 (01:18:27):
Have to games, So yeah, I don't wish it on
other people.

Speaker 5 (01:18:30):
Buddy, I have to watch Titans games, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:18:33):
Last night was a dream for New York, but it
could become a nightmare for the NBA.

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
We'll tell you why.

Speaker 5 (01:18:38):
Next.

Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
He's Buck Rising, Jason Fitz Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 3 (01:18:45):
The party is still raging through the streets of Manhattan
as Knicks fans continue to rejoice from a huge series
win over the Boston Celtics.

Speaker 2 (01:18:54):
But here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
A dream scenario in New York could actually turn into
a nightmare.

Speaker 2 (01:19:00):
Scenario for the.

Speaker 3 (01:19:02):
NBA, because now that we're this far in looking at
the teams that are remaining, the league has got to
be desperate for the Knicks to go to the NBA Finals.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz.

Speaker 3 (01:19:13):
We're hanging out with you on a Fox Sports Saturday,
coming at your live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Buck,
I just keep thinking about the teams that are left.
We're about to get an Eastern Conference Final.

Speaker 5 (01:19:24):
That is your final.

Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
You can tell I've I've covered too much NHL in
my life.

Speaker 3 (01:19:29):
It's the Eastern Conference Finals and it's your Indiana Pacers
taking on the world's New York Knicks.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
I don't know how you feel about that, Like many.

Speaker 4 (01:19:37):
Are also my New York Knicks in any conversation with you,
because you just because I said, did not laving them
because you picked the Celtics because you were so blasphemous
in your analysis, So they are also my New York Knicks.

Speaker 5 (01:19:49):
Okay, well, say something nice about Shalla mag.

Speaker 8 (01:19:52):
I was about to say that book.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
Now I like Chala May's fashion. That's gonna be my
go to.

Speaker 5 (01:19:58):
That said three different times by two different.

Speaker 3 (01:20:00):
Oh wait, wait, somebody tweeted me a picture of him
cheesing for the jumbo tron.

Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:04):
I love a superstar cheesing for the jumber tron. Might
see got something nice?

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
Something nice?

Speaker 8 (01:20:09):
I mean he called him a superstar in the sent
and so we'll allow it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
Okay, that's fair, I mean, uh okay, And so on
the other side.

Speaker 3 (01:20:17):
Tomorrow we get the most overused phrase in all of sports,
which is the best thing in all of sports, a
game seven, right, But we get Denver Oklahoma City tomorrow
in a Game seven that will decide who's taking on Minnesota.
So our final four teams here are, in no particular order,
the New York Knicks.

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
The massive market known is the New York.

Speaker 3 (01:20:36):
Knicks, the phenomenon of ratings known as the New York Knicks,
The Indiana Pacers, the Minnesota Timberwolves, and then either the
Denver Nuggets, who nobody cares about. It's been proven every
time they win, or the Oklahoma City thunder Man. That's
a nightmare, son Net right. Look, if we're being honest

(01:20:57):
for a second book, the thought of Indiana versus either Denver,
Oklahoma City or Minnesota is a nightmare for the league.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
When it comes to eyeballs and attention. Conversation had no.

Speaker 5 (01:21:10):
It just it warms me on the inside.

Speaker 4 (01:21:12):
Blue collar gold swagger baby, the sers they're coming for everything.
But yes, to your point, it would be a league
wide disaster. Now it's funny to hear this. I'm sure Mary,
any interpaying attention to this as well, the fact that
you were advocating for parody earlier in the show, early
or earlier in these three hours, and now you are

(01:21:33):
against parody. What it threatens the television the television numbers.
And no, it's so much fun that the NBA has
a you know, a run of seven different champions in
the last seven seasons, and oh how great that is
for the league, and the NBA is doing this better
in the NFL.

Speaker 5 (01:21:51):
And then all of a sudden we get a little
too close to Minnesota.

Speaker 8 (01:21:53):
You say, no, no, you've had a character arc over the
course of the show. Fits.

Speaker 5 (01:21:57):
Okay, that sounds about right.

Speaker 2 (01:21:58):
There's there's this is like a streaming show.

Speaker 3 (01:22:02):
You got to tune into every episode, okay, because there's
evolution to character, everything changes a little bit.

Speaker 5 (01:22:06):
No, you're bouncing around segment to segment. I'm just trying
to keep up thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:22:10):
I When I first got into radio, I remember I
was sitting with a mutual friend of ours on one
of my first shows, and I was talking about the
fact that everybody loves upsets in the NCUBAA tournament, everybody
loves upsets, and he's like, nah, not once you get
to the elite eight in the final four, they don't.

Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
And so I thought I was gonna be mister smarty pants.

Speaker 3 (01:22:28):
And I looked up all the TV ratings I could
find over a long period of time, and my god,
what do you know?

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
He was right. Everybody loves upsets in.

Speaker 3 (01:22:35):
The NCAA tournament in the first two rounds. But when
small teams, when teams you've never heard of, make it
to the actual championship game, nobody watches. So like the
year that we had Butler taken on Duke, which was
a great game you might remember, like electric game, all
the way down to the wire.

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
Nobody watched it because nobody cares.

Speaker 3 (01:22:56):
Right, But if you get a final, like ultimately, if
the Lake Gods could make any situation they wanted in
the in the NCAA tournament, it would be upsets everywhere.
And somehow a two seeded and three seeded duke in
North Carolina.

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
Face off for the championship.

Speaker 3 (01:23:10):
This is the same like parody is cute until you
get to the actual championship round when look, I understand
that star power matter, so Anthony Edwards or Shade Gilgs Alexander,
Like I understand that these are names. Jokich obviously, but
like we also know that Jokich is how many times
are you gonna win the damn MVP? Where we're going
to continue to have the conversation of the MVP of

(01:23:30):
the league as somebody that like people just don't flock
to watch, like at the end of the day, the
Lakers and Celtics the next Like, there are certain teams
that just get higher ratings. It's the reason that first
take only talks about these teams because they get higher ratings. Like,
at some point, if you are a sports league, you
like higher ratings. I don't think it's a hot take
to say that even in a parody filled NBA where

(01:23:52):
there's a different champion every year, they would prefer for
that champion to be some bouncing rotation of major markets.

Speaker 4 (01:23:58):
Oh no, of course, nobody. Nobody would just that the
television networks. I'm sure in an honest moment, if you
were to give them truth to serum would absolutely tell
you that everybody is wearing Nick's gear and rooting for
Jalen Brunson and hoping that New York burns it to
the ground afterwards, because that's the thing that's best for business,
and at the end of the day, these people are
running a business. The television ratings will never be higher

(01:24:21):
than New York's run through the NBA playoffs, and it
will be fascinating to see because again, the game, the
series itself between the Pacers and the Knicks that that
is upcoming in the Eastern Conference Finals is going to
be fascinating because it will give New York the opportunity
to prove that they are superior.

Speaker 5 (01:24:41):
You and many other people. It wasn't just you, though.

Speaker 4 (01:24:43):
We've been piling on you this evening for how loudly
wrong you were on your Celtics' opinions.

Speaker 5 (01:24:49):
And that's fine.

Speaker 4 (01:24:50):
It happens to the best of us when you say
so many things in front of a microphone. But the
Celtics were the better basketball team. They did not play
the better series against an inferior opponent. New York has
no problem being the underdog. They're not going to be
doubted in this series. They are not going to be
treated with the same level of well, nobody respects the Knicks.

Speaker 5 (01:25:12):
Oh look, how much better not nobody respects.

Speaker 4 (01:25:14):
The next But nobody is putting respect on the Knicks
at this particular point in time, given the level of
opposition that they were facing. Now it's the Pacers, and
the Pacers are a quality basketball team, and the Cleveland Cavaliers,
you know, I understand that they have they had injury
situations that caused that series to look as lopsided as
it was. I hesitate to call them choking dogs, because
I don't think that's entirely fair. I think the injuries

(01:25:37):
impacted that series arguably more than any other one in
these NBA playoffs to date. But the Pacers are not
an overwhelmingly special team, right It's a pleasant surprise that
they find themselves in the Eastern Conference Finals.

Speaker 5 (01:25:50):
Here.

Speaker 4 (01:25:50):
New York is going to have the opportunity to prove
once again that they belong. But it's going to be
entirely a different dialogue, an entirely different narrative, and how
they respond to that is going to be fascinating.

Speaker 5 (01:26:01):
Television. But they have to get back, they have to
get buy Indiana.

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
They have to Okay, but here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:26:06):
I will continually eat crow, which I don't actually know
if there's a right or wrong way to eat crow.
Seems like it's probably not a very safe bird to eat.

Speaker 5 (01:26:13):
The right way is in a pie pop pie.

Speaker 3 (01:26:16):
Okay, pop pie is delicious, but why would you put
crow in a pot pie? Like a chicken pot pie
is very good. I love me a good old pop
pie like that.

Speaker 4 (01:26:22):
It's like, it's like, what's the panthers wide receiver log
at that eats that eats raccoon for a living, depending
on how you make it.

Speaker 5 (01:26:28):
You don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:26:29):
Okay, Well, next time I'm in Nashville, you and me
are eating crow pop pie.

Speaker 2 (01:26:34):
All right. So here's the thing. I'll eat my crow.

Speaker 3 (01:26:37):
But I will also say that when you do this
for a living, the one thing that you have to
be able to do is.

Speaker 2 (01:26:41):
Stand by your math. Like if you remember when we were.

Speaker 3 (01:26:43):
Kids, much longer for me than you, but when we
were kids, I love your Indiana Pacers. References were all
like like I thought you were gonna go Reggie Miller. No,
all right, So when we were kids and you sat
down and you were in math class.

Speaker 2 (01:26:58):
You couldn't just write the answer. You have to show
your work.

Speaker 3 (01:27:00):
And by showing your work, you explained how you got
to where you were for an answer.

Speaker 2 (01:27:05):
I think that's the important part for any of us
in front of a microphone. You've got to be able
to show you work.

Speaker 3 (01:27:09):
I stand by the concept that when we were hanging
out after the first two games, I was not worried
about the Celtics because the fact is they'd been up
by twenty plus points in two straight games. I will
continue to die on the hill that if the Celtics
don't melt down, none of this. I like the Celtics
meltowns in the first two games while they had Tatum
is the reason that they lost this entire series. They

(01:27:31):
never should have been in that situation in the first place.
Throughout the course of the series, the number of the
times that the Celtics had large leads was really staggering
to me for a.

Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
Series that they lost.

Speaker 3 (01:27:41):
This is gonna sit in the minds of these Celtics
players in this organization forever. So I stand by the
math on why I felt like the Knicks were going
to be left for dead. This series against the Pacers
is very interesting because I feel like you're under selling
Indiana a little bit. You're like, but there is at
least a couple of things to Indiana's depth. I mean,
we know that Indiana can go eleven ten to eleven

(01:28:03):
deep if they need to, Like they can work this
thing in.

Speaker 5 (01:28:05):
So I that makes a basic playing the same five guys, right.

Speaker 3 (01:28:08):
The Knicks are gonna take their five and run them
into the ground, right, So I think that Indiana has
a better shot.

Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
Like this feels like a very even series to me.
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:28:17):
I don't look at this and say like this is
a cakewalk. I also think that you're asking if you're
the Knicks the key to everything continue to even last night,
the Knicks kicked the snot out of the Celtics because
Karl Anthony Towns played like the best of Karl Anthony Towns.
And one thing we always try and figure out is
what's what's repeatable? Like what can we bank on being

(01:28:37):
something every single night? I don't think you can bank
on that version of Karl Anthony Towns night in and
night out.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
Hell, if you could, then I'd be very.

Speaker 3 (01:28:44):
Comfortable right now saying huzza, the Knicks are headed to
the NBA Finals.

Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
Let's see who they're playing. They're playing, it's gonna be
a hell of that. But like, what what huzza?

Speaker 5 (01:28:53):
Like you go to Renaissance Fair huzzah?

Speaker 2 (01:28:56):
Like huzza, huzza Like you know, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:28:59):
Like imagine walking down the streets of Connecticut or wherever
the hell and yelling at Hizza every time you see,
you know, a new doughnut shop or something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:29:06):
You're gonna say hazzan. Next week and you're gonna be like,
why did that pop into my brain? And then you
just text me and I'll say you're welcome.

Speaker 4 (01:29:11):
That's all of the things that I that I am
going to say throughout the course of next week.

Speaker 5 (01:29:16):
Haza.

Speaker 4 (01:29:16):
I can promise you is going to be I've said
it more right now than I ever will for the
rest of my life.

Speaker 3 (01:29:21):
Congratulations. Now you can also give the governor a hero.
That's a placing sounds reference for you. That's an old
man movie. I'm just saying that there there. I certainly
don't trust Karl Anthony Towns enough to be able to
punch the ticket directly into the Finals. As much as
that would look, the Knicks being in the NBA Finals
is for what we do for for just one to
talk about basketball every single night. The Knicks being in

(01:29:44):
the NBA Finals is by far the best outcome.

Speaker 2 (01:29:47):
I just don't know how confident I am on that
right now.

Speaker 4 (01:29:49):
And it's but it's not about Cat. To me, they
have the finisher. It's it's not Karl Anthony Towns. It's Bronson.
And I know Kat was the story of the final
game between the Knicks and the Celtics, and that's great
that they have the opportunity to go to a player
like that, or that that player has that level of
talent ceiling that he can elevate them at any given moment.
But the thing that has gotten them to this point

(01:30:11):
is Jelen Brunson. It's not Karl Anthony Towns. Karl Anthony
Towns is a very very nice secondary piece to have,
and I love that he's not the focal point here
because it gives him the ability to have one of
those games and just say what a great game from Kat,
and move on and not expect him to have another one,
even though you absolutely need him to have another one.

Speaker 5 (01:30:28):
If you're to make the NBA finals.

Speaker 2 (01:30:30):
I just don't I believe.

Speaker 3 (01:30:31):
I appreciate it, and I respect and agree with you
on everything. Pro Brunson, like, I'm wildly Look, let's have
that march in the streets for how great he is.
Let's let's go parade through it. It's spectacular.

Speaker 4 (01:30:44):
I don't know he's reversing COURSEI and he was all
over the next firm para parading through the streets in
New York after beating the Celtics.

Speaker 3 (01:30:51):
I'm just saying, I don't know that one player can
get you through the Eastern Conference final.

Speaker 2 (01:30:56):
That's all.

Speaker 3 (01:30:57):
Like somebody else has to step up. That's all I'm saying.
Somebody else has to step up. And then when somebody
else steps up, then Knicks fans still need to relax
and not celebrate like they've won the championship until they've
actually won the championship, buck until they've actually finished the deal,
and raise a banner.

Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
You don't party. Okay. Look, I got a lot to
say about.

Speaker 3 (01:31:16):
The over partying. It's happening right now. We'll continue to
break it down. Plus, the huge news of the WNBA
today that has everybody shaking. Will tell you I know,
I can't believe it. Through all of this, the WMAA
is making news. Because the stars are making news. We'll
tell you about it. Next to these, Buck Rising, I'm
Jason fitz hanging out with you on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (01:31:36):
What would be in the Buck Rising red solo cupies?

Speaker 3 (01:31:38):
Buck Rising, I'm Jason Fitz bucking fits Fox Sports Radio
on Saturday. You look at me like I should know this,
but I don't know, Like it just seems like for
you at a concert, Like here's what I'm just guessing here.
We'll get to actual sports in a second. I'm just
guessing that when Buck Rising walks into the green room.
And for anyone that doesn't know, I spent a lot
of my life touring as a musician, right, so I

(01:32:00):
was always on big tours. And you know, when you
when you start to make it in that business and
you start to tour arenas, one thing that you always
have is like a radio room is what they call it.
And the radio room is where there's a setup of
different liquors that are there for you and like, look,
the band of the artist is paying out of their
pocket to make sure that there is alcohol there so
that when the radio people come by, they all get

(01:32:21):
drinks and they have a great time. You want to
make sure that they were wind and dying so that
they play your song more like it's a whole process and.

Speaker 2 (01:32:27):
Like they stay inside stage.

Speaker 3 (01:32:28):
So in my mind, when Buck Rising shows up at
the Sticks concert and he walks into the radio room,
I don't think Buck cares what type of liquor it is.
I think Buck looks and says, which is the most
expensive bottle here? That's what's free for me. I'm going
to drink that with a splash of soda and a
line like that's what It doesn't matter tequila. But it
doesn't matter if it's clear or if it's brown. I

(01:32:50):
think you just immediately go for that is the that
is the highest price.

Speaker 4 (01:32:56):
You know, this is the one time where you would
be wrong about my elitism because I am gonna I
don't do brown liquor anymore. It's just it's I haven't
you lost the fight? I lost the fight after college.
I like if I smell a whiskey coke at this
point in my life, it gives me the goosebumps.

Speaker 5 (01:33:18):
I can't I can't do it.

Speaker 4 (01:33:20):
And you know, I'm sure if I was drinking better
quality whiskey in college at the volume that I was
drinking whiskey in college, then maybe I.

Speaker 5 (01:33:28):
Would not have that reaction.

Speaker 4 (01:33:29):
No, FITZI, it is simply top shelf tequila I've got
to have.

Speaker 5 (01:33:33):
So here's my elitism part.

Speaker 4 (01:33:36):
You know these poppy or ollipop prebiotic sos, I've got
to have those in the room as well, preferably the
orange kind, because that's gonna be my mixer. I'm gonna
have an orange slice with my tequila because I don't
do lime anymore. I think lime is a little basic
and whatever the highest. So that you are correct about
the most expensive bottle of tequila in the room, I

(01:33:56):
will not discriminate between and Yeho or Reposado Blanco as
long as it's good and as expensive as somebody else
is playing for it.

Speaker 3 (01:34:04):
I went to a tequila tasting once that was blew
my mind with a bunch of things like I will
tell you so what is now Category ten but used
to be the Wildhorse Saloon in Nashville.

Speaker 2 (01:34:13):
For anyone that's ever been there, it's a huge Luke
Combsbond bar.

Speaker 3 (01:34:16):
But it has a huge stage in the first like
band that I was in that never really made it,
but we toured a lot and tried. We played there
a bunch when it was The Wild Horse, and it
was funny because they used to have these forty ounce
red coke glasses, so like they would fill the coat,
like the huge red coat.

Speaker 2 (01:34:32):
Glasses at that time.

Speaker 3 (01:34:34):
I used to fill like ice, and then I would
fill the glass all the way the top with Jack,
and then I would put a splash.

Speaker 2 (01:34:40):
Of diet in so it was all Jack.

Speaker 3 (01:34:42):
And so I was drinking a bottle of Jack and
Knight over the course of you know, two or three
hours of sets, like just really hammered every.

Speaker 2 (01:34:48):
Single night of my life.

Speaker 4 (01:34:50):
By the way, before, we're working through some trauma again.
We worked through some childhood trauma and we're doing it again.

Speaker 3 (01:34:55):
Betever, anyone that before you tweet me, I, I haven't
had to drink it a long time. You know, everything's
fine for me now, but it's amazing like that. Jack
is one of the few things like now I'll have
a drink ever, you know, maybe once a year I
have a drink just out of fun. But if somebody
puts Jack in front of me, it's still to this
day's like no Mickey never made me sick. It's just

(01:35:16):
when you're drinking a bottle of it tonight. You know,
a buddy of mine used to always say, He's like,
I don't I only drink when I gig. It's just,
you know, the thing is, I've had a busy few years.
That was my life. So Jack Daniels is the one
thing that's just out for me. I you know, I
used to love it and now I just can't. I
can't handle it well.

Speaker 4 (01:35:33):
The brown liquor will will bring people to blows from
time to time. And I don't think there was brown
liquor involved in the WNBA debut earlier. This evening fits yah?
How about that? Or radio teas? How about that? Caitlyn Clark,
Angel Race, We're back in the WNBA is better than
ever now. It was not a good game tonight between
the Chicago Sky and the Indiana Fever ninety three to

(01:35:56):
fifty eight in favor of Caitlin Clark and Fever. She
gets a triple double in her team's season debut. Does
Caitlyn Clark? She also exchanged angry words with Angel Reese
after she committed a flagrant foul. Did Kitlyn Clark? On
Angel Reese. Reese had to be held back after the fact.
The images of it make it look more nefarious In

(01:36:19):
favor of Clark, the video does not look as bad,
and I.

Speaker 5 (01:36:23):
Understood the argument.

Speaker 4 (01:36:24):
That she was making for the officials as to why
they elevated it to a flagrant foul. But as we
talked about to open the show, Fitsie, if you had
to have a blowout between two notable players on two
teams who are trying to find their way in this
new version of the WNBA, you might as well have
some fireworks and jazz hands with it. And that's what

(01:36:44):
we got tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:36:45):
I mean, the marquee match of the day was really
supposed to be the Liberty versus the Aces. You get
your defending champion versus the two time champion before them,
and that game was also not particularly close, and so
there was a chance that we hit the first big
Saturday of the w NBA season with not much compelling
basketball to talk about. Instead, we get sort of the

(01:37:06):
two you know in in Give a Damn. When I
say the two biggest stars, I mean I'm not talking
about Asia or any of the there are a million
stars in the w right now, but when you talk
about oh, I immediately want to watch it's conflict. And
that's why I use the eighties wrestling comparison a lot.
But one thing that they always said is that for
hal Cogan to become hal Cogan, there had to be

(01:37:27):
an iron chic. There had to be like the person
that he was going against it first to get him over.
As what they call it wrestling, right, So you have
all of these moments where if you're gonna have, you know,
to have the best of the rock comes out. When
you have the best of Johnsena, there's these examples, the
best of Brett Hart, when you have Sean Michaels. So
for years in wrestling, it feels like that's what's happening
right now in the w It's not that like Angel Reese,

(01:37:47):
to be very clear, is not the same level of
star on the court that somebody like Asia Wilson is.

Speaker 2 (01:37:52):
It's not even close.

Speaker 3 (01:37:53):
But when Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark are on the
court at the same time, people give a damn.

Speaker 2 (01:37:58):
And that's just and.

Speaker 3 (01:37:59):
That's an electric part of how the w is going
to continue to market itself this year.

Speaker 2 (01:38:03):
It's an electric part of how we're going to.

Speaker 3 (01:38:05):
Pay attention like it doesn't really matter. Indiana, by the way,
has made some aggressive moves this offseason, and they're going
to be a very good team. There is no doubt
about that. But Indiana's going to be very good. It's
not really about that, like it's about the conversation. Every
time these two ladies are on the court, it is
a battle.

Speaker 2 (01:38:22):
It is physical. They're going to get in each other's faces.
There's going to be some sort.

Speaker 3 (01:38:25):
Of a melee and frankly, it's great for the sport,
it's great for the entertainment, it's great for what we do.

Speaker 5 (01:38:30):
No I and as we talked about this a little.

Speaker 4 (01:38:33):
Bit earlier, but if you're just now joining us, and
by the way, you can check out the podcast after
the fact. You can look up the podcast on Fox
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Speaker 5 (01:38:40):
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Radio to catch up on all of the things that
we talked about throughout the course of this evening and
all the other shows that will come before and after
us as well.

Speaker 2 (01:39:00):
Well.

Speaker 4 (01:39:00):
The thing that we did touch on earlier though, is
that you get to it. It's like a choose your
own adventure specific to the rivalry that these two have, right,
because it goes back to their collegiate careers in which
Angel Reese frankly got the better of Caitlin Clark in
a lot of these situations, and now it's carried over
to the professional ranks where it has continued to be

(01:39:20):
compelling because not only are they great athletes, but they
are compelling personalities as well, and they will take the
on the court stuff, or at least Reese will take
it take it off the court as well, and that
will continue to trickle out into the press conference and
podcasts and things like that that the athletes are also
involved in now in the modern day too. But the
point is you can choose your own adventurers to which

(01:39:41):
side you're on, because they can both be hero and
villain depending on who you're talking to, and that makes
it even that much more compelling when there's disagreement about
whether they're even likable or dislikable.

Speaker 5 (01:39:54):
Dislikable, unlikable. I think it's unlikable, well.

Speaker 2 (01:39:57):
Unlikable for it.

Speaker 3 (01:40:02):
All right, You choose your own adventure, speaking to choose
your own adventure. One of the biggest new stars in
the NFL tried to choose his own adventure and it
could have been an epic disaster.

Speaker 2 (01:40:16):
Caleb Williams and the Bears. We'll tell you about it,
but first, Steve Disager's got to get you caught up
on what's going on in the world. Right now.

Speaker 7 (01:40:21):
We've got a Game six of the NHL Playoffs in
a second round series at Dallas right now, and it's
tied with eight and a half minutes to go. Stars
won to one with Winnipeg. Dallas is leading this best
of seven three games to two. The Jets goalie Connor
Hellibuk on the road this postseason is zero to five.
There is a Game seven on Sunday night with Florida
at Toronto. Alex Ovechkin will return to play for Washington

(01:40:44):
next season. It'll be the final year of his current contract.
He turns forty in September. The NBA Second Round ends
on Sunday. Denvers Aaron Gordon questionable for the game at
Oklahoma City with a strain hamstring. That'll be a Game seven,
with the winner hosting Minnesota to start the NBA's way
Eastern Conference Finals on Tuesday. The East Finals start Wednesday
with Indiana at New York in a WNBA season opener.

(01:41:07):
Indiana all over Chicago ninety three fifty eight. Caitlin Clark,
a triple double journalism the favorite, won the Preakness, coming
from behind late he'd finished second in the derby in
the rain Kentucky Derby winner Sovereignty did not run today,
fifth time in seven years with no Triple Crown at
stake in the Preakness. This was the one hundred and
fiftieth Preakness Stakes, by the way. Scottie Schaeffler leads the

(01:41:29):
PGA Championship in Charlotte by three strokes after a third
round sixty five. Alex Norin is in second place. Sergio
Garcias shot seventy nine. He's last among those who made
the cut. In Major League Soccer, Toronto six to one
over Montreal, and the UFL, Michigan is six and two
after winning at Houston to Major League Baseball. The Rockies
have a road record of two and twenty one, but

(01:41:51):
they've come close. Tonight at Arizona, it's eleven ten Diamondbacks
over the Rockies.

Speaker 5 (01:41:56):
In the top of the seventh.

Speaker 7 (01:41:58):
Three other leg games all involved NL West teams as well.
Mariners leading at San Diego to to one in the
top of the seventh. Giants are hosting the A's. That
game is scoreless bottom of the sixth, and it's only
bottom of the fourth at Dodger Stadium, Angels holding on
five to four over LA. Earlier today, the Mets, with
a run in the top of the ninth, beat the

(01:42:18):
Yankees three to two, the save to Edwin Diaz. Toronto
with a run in the eighth and a run at
the bottom of the ninth edge Detroit two to one.
Washington was a ten to six winner at Baltimore after
the Orioles fired manager Brandon Hide. The team's record now
fifteen to twenty nine. They've lost five in a row.
Kansas City's lost five straight after dropping a one nothing
decision at home to Saint Louis this evening, Cards won

(01:42:41):
on a sixth inning home run. Cards only had two
hits in the whole game. Minnesota won its thirteenth straight
contest seven nothing at Milwaukee and Boston on Fox TV.
Came back to beat Atlantis seven to six, ending a
four game losing streak. Red Sox won it on a
solo homer bottom of the ninth by Rafael Devers. The
Red Sox had trailed six' two in the seventh. Inning

(01:43:01):
back to, you.

Speaker 2 (01:43:03):
He's Buck.

Speaker 3 (01:43:04):
Rising I'm Jason, fitzberg hanging out with you On Fox Sports.
Radio coming into life from The Fox Sports radio. Studios,
Buck some big news came out this week From Seth
wickersham And Seth i've Known seth.

Speaker 2 (01:43:15):
For a long.

Speaker 3 (01:43:15):
Time there are a few reporters in this business that
when they report, IT i know it is so incredibly
sourced THAT i immediately, Say, Okay LIKE i, know there are
certain guys THAT i trust beyond any doubt that they
would not put something out there unless it was absolutely
something that they were.

Speaker 2 (01:43:32):
A thousand percent.

Speaker 3 (01:43:33):
Sure so When Seth wickersham comes out as part of
his reporting with the, story the References Caleb williams and
his family realistically looking if they had legal options that
would allow them to avoid being drafted by The Chicago,
bears something that you. Know the plenty of quotes revolving

(01:43:54):
Around seth's, dad, Sorry seth, dad Around caleb's dad saying
basically that they want to put him in the best position. Possible,
man that's. Stunning and it's stunning not because he looked into.
It it's stunning because he got out. There it's stunning
because now what you have Is caleb, being you, know
pretty open and. Honest were people Around caleb being pretty
open and honest about the fact that he wasn't comfortable

(01:44:15):
with The. Bears The bears having a less than desirable
first season With, caleb they fire, everybody and now you've
got this moment where you've planted the seed just by
this becoming public That bears fans and you, know this
covering a fan base right Like bears fans the minute
things are a struggle For caleb, like they are going
to immediately clap. Back they are going to bark back

(01:44:38):
at this point And, caleb because now it's become clear
That caleb didn't trust that The bears weren't going to
screw it up from day. One that's a tough thing
to have to get out from under for a, player for.

Speaker 5 (01:44:49):
Sure and.

Speaker 4 (01:44:51):
Anytime information like this gets, out the initial reaction for me,
is all, right who benefits from having this out? There
and for, me that's a really tough answer to. Discern
in this particular situation because it's not a good look
for The bears that the number one overall draft, pick
the consensus number one overall draft, pick was actively going

(01:45:13):
to avoid, them in, fact exploring all manner of, options
including consulting With Archie manning about how they were able
to Get eli out of The chargers situation where he
ended up being drafted by The New York, giants exploring legal.

Speaker 5 (01:45:27):
Possibilities to see if they.

Speaker 4 (01:45:28):
Could circumvent THE, cba and all going so far fitzi
as to see If Caleb williams wouldn't make more sense
as A ufl player to then get to pick HIS
nfl team in twenty twenty five after spending a year
out of The National Football league or away from The
National Football league to circumvent the draft. Process it's a

(01:45:50):
fascinating look into the exploration of leverage from a family
who was genuinely concerned about their son being able to
succeed at the highest. Level because we know this ABOUT nfl,
organizations it's never been more out there and open and.
Honest as a part of the dialogue around the quarterback,

(01:46:12):
position the league is churning and burning these dudes.

Speaker 5 (01:46:16):
At a higher rate than we ever have.

Speaker 4 (01:46:18):
Before kevin O'Connell with one of the most salient Points
i've ever heard AN nfl head coach make on, this
AND i believe it was on The Rich Issend show last.
Year heading into last, season he said that AT nfl
organizations fail players far more often than players quote unquote
bust because you have no idea the amount of different

(01:46:40):
things that can go wrong just based on the geography
of where you land in THE nfl. Draft but to your,
point now that it's out there and you've got people
like Boomeris, iasin for, example who have basically taught who
literally said shut your pie. Hole and, again the average
age of the person using the word pie, HOLE i,
assume is also the same as the average age of
the person using hazah on a regular.

Speaker 5 (01:47:00):
Basis but we don't have.

Speaker 2 (01:47:01):
To do alot a guy Named boomer to, say pylele go.

Speaker 5 (01:47:03):
Ahead he is the Most Boomer boomer, Ever like.

Speaker 4 (01:47:08):
Nobody has more embodied that word Than boomer As sizin.
Respectfully but AND i Understand boomer's point is a former
player who comes from a different generation and is looking
at this as a level of entitlement and saying why are,
you as you like to use on a regular, basis
what makes you? Special Caleb williams that all of us

(01:47:29):
had to go through the exact same, process or a
very similar, process and just had to overcome the circumstances
and did so if you were good enough to actually
overcome the, circumstances which is not something that we know
About Caleb. Williams by the, way he had a very
difficult first. Year there are reasons that that year was
made more difficult on him than it probably should have.

(01:47:51):
Been but he has plenty of expectations to live up,
to unto, himself and now the microscope is going to
be squarely on him as if it wasn't, before because
they've Hired Ben johnson to quarterback guru the best version
Of Caleb williams humanly. Possible but the, second the second
that he looks like less than they, expect they're going

(01:48:13):
to jump on this kid's.

Speaker 5 (01:48:14):
Neck and that is a tough.

Speaker 4 (01:48:15):
Dynamic to have between a fan base that has, been
As Caleb williams father described, it the place where quarterbacks
quote go to, die and a young quarterback who's just
trying to make it in the, league and to his,
credit you, know by the time he had THE i
think that the final visit With, chicago he turned around
and he told his family in his, camp, YEAH i

(01:48:36):
can make this.

Speaker 5 (01:48:37):
WORK i can do this In.

Speaker 4 (01:48:38):
Chicago whether or not he does remains to be, seen
but it's a very difficult dynamic to have.

Speaker 5 (01:48:44):
Come out before a pivotal season for.

Speaker 3 (01:48:46):
Him the pivotal season is a huge part of this
because right Now bears FANS i think have fallen even.
More look the fact that his dad's open about they
were looking at other, options but that, no he came
To chicago and they have an Easy scapegoatright, now it's
easy to look at it and, Say Ibra flu's offensive.
Coordinator everything about that was just a dumpster fire from the,

(01:49:06):
outset which by the, way most of us predicted a
long time, Ago like you knew that was going to
be a dumpster.

Speaker 5 (01:49:11):
Fire so right.

Speaker 3 (01:49:12):
Now it's easy to, say, hey, Look ibraflus was a.
Problem the offense was a. Problem, caleb he came To
chicago despite what his family was having. Him look at
like he becomes a hero in this moment as long
as it works With Ben.

Speaker 2 (01:49:25):
Johnson if he is not good this, year if there.

Speaker 3 (01:49:29):
Is not a continual growth in some of the areas
that he needs a little, help and like if he's
not taking a step, forward like all of this conversation
about how he was watching tape and, again prominent quarterbacks
have differed on social media on what's right and what's.

Speaker 2 (01:49:43):
WRONG i can't speak to, it but at least.

Speaker 3 (01:49:46):
This conversation right now is all providing more benefit of
the doubt For caleb as long As caleb, succeeds and
like that's where this, Is, LIKE i think this weirdly
puts a lot of. Pressure If caleb in year two
Of Ben johnson doesn't take can leap, forward that's all
all that good will goes away and goes away quickly
Because Ben johnson now has all of the benefit of the,

(01:50:07):
Doubt like one side of the other in this situation
is going to get. It caleb got it because Eber
BLUs didn't have. It Now Ben johnson's going to get
it If caleb isn't. GREAT i JUST i don't know
how much, patience especially because of the quick ascension of. C.
J stroud and the quick ascension Of jade And daniels
like it changes. INAPPROPRIATELY i don't think it, should but
it changes the way we view early progress for all.

Speaker 4 (01:50:28):
Quarterbacks, no it's, human, right especially When Jaden daniels And
Caleb williams are in the same draft, class and you
know there's plenty Of bears fans who are going to
hit him with if he, struggles and he will have, struggles,
Right he's still an incredibly young player very early on
in HIS nfl. Career we have no idea What Caleb
williams Or Jayden, daniels by the, way is going to.

(01:50:49):
Become like we have a one season sample size of
the two of, them and we're making grand indictments or
grand assessments about what they will be for the rest
of their careers one way or the. OTHER i would
disagree with you slightly on the idea that the coach
gets the benefit of the doubt just because of this.

Speaker 5 (01:51:08):
SITUATION i think that.

Speaker 4 (01:51:10):
Fans are more more likely than not to side with the,
player even if they are convicted or, conflicted rather on
the player and his, talent because the player still you,
know it's always the, potential, Right you're trafficking and, Potential,
well this player has more. Potential what's wrong with this
coach that he can't get the potential out of the talented,
player especially when this coach has been heralded as you,

(01:51:32):
know the savior of, quarterbacks and he. Reinvigorated Jared goff
and The bears did the thing THAT i hate THAT
nfl organizations have started doing for social media, clout which
makes me sick to my stomach because it almost always
blows up in their. Face they do this thing where
the first time that the new person walks into THE

(01:51:52):
nfl facility or the pro sports, facility where every member
of the staff is standing on every level of the,
lobby applauding.

Speaker 5 (01:51:59):
Them and celebrating them in the balloon.

Speaker 4 (01:52:01):
Drop and all these different, things and then you fire
the guy two years later and you look like dopes
has happened here In tennessee With Ryan karthon for just
that social media moment Idiots, ANYWAY i.

Speaker 5 (01:52:12):
AM i am.

Speaker 4 (01:52:14):
Most curious though about How Caleb williams handles this situation moving,
forward BECAUSE i don't think that this doesn't have to define, him. Right,
yeah just because it's the most recent piece of information
that's come out, THERE i think he has. Done he

(01:52:35):
showed UP i think this weekend or later in the
week at A chicago middle school or high school and
did A q AND a with kids and stuff like.

Speaker 5 (01:52:43):
That he has since leaned into the idea.

Speaker 4 (01:52:46):
Of being The Chicago bears, quarterback and we have a
year sample size of him being a willing, participant not a,
malcontent not a problem child with this, organization just understanding
that on the front, end understandably so they had apprehensions
about an organization that famously does not do.

Speaker 3 (01:53:05):
Quarterbacks, Right, yeah it's it's interesting because this is such
a huge proven year for the. Organization like everybody bought
in last, year everybody's buying again in again this. YEAR
i hope we can just sort of temper the expectations
a little bit and let it grow the way it's
gonna need to.

Speaker 2 (01:53:23):
GROW i know it never, happens but a little.

Speaker 5 (01:53:24):
Bit that's not how sports.

Speaker 3 (01:53:26):
Works you, know we do DO i had to pause
there SO i didn't just, say do do you know
what we?

Speaker 5 (01:53:31):
Do? Do you still? Said DO i?

Speaker 2 (01:53:33):
Know would you? Rather it's coming up?

Speaker 3 (01:53:34):
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Speaker 2 (01:53:37):
Radio are you? Ready are you ready to do? This all,
right let's let's play some.

Speaker 5 (01:53:46):
What you where did we get?

Speaker 6 (01:53:51):
It?

Speaker 8 (01:53:51):
Delay all, Right i'd say that was pretty, good. Guys
i've heard you guys do. Better but it's.

Speaker 2 (01:53:55):
Okay.

Speaker 8 (01:53:57):
Uh i'm actually irrationally excited right now about this new
wheel Of fortune style wheel that we have For would you?
Rather it's, yeah we just wheeled it into the studio.
Here it's, big it's, bright it's got, lights and it's
gonna help us decide which questions ask you?

Speaker 5 (01:54:10):
For would you?

Speaker 8 (01:54:10):
Rather, so let's go ahead and give it a. Spin
spin the?

Speaker 5 (01:54:13):
Wheel? Baby, Oh i'm so? Happy all?

Speaker 8 (01:54:16):
Right, so would you rather possess the power of invisibility
but only while loudly humming circus? Music or you get super,
strength but your muscles squeak like rubber ducks with every
movement you?

Speaker 5 (01:54:28):
Make? Oh oh, no it would have to be.

Speaker 4 (01:54:34):
Invisibility you, know you'd get through the awkwardness of loudly
making noises on occasion rather than just, yeah the circus
music is, tough but like you, know we've all probably
got a song playing in our heads at any given.

Speaker 5 (01:54:49):
Moment why not just externalize.

Speaker 4 (01:54:51):
That the idea of squeaking every time you move nothing
pisses me off more than WHEN i come in from the,
outdoors in you, know in the in the the, rain
and there's still water or wet residue on the bottom
of my feet And i'm squeaking down the. Hallway it's
a plague for, you it's a plague for everybody else around.

Speaker 5 (01:55:10):
You, no that's. Terrible give me the invisibility in the circus.

Speaker 3 (01:55:12):
Music, no give me squeaky muscles on this, one because
hear me. Out if you're invisible and all you have
is circus music while you're, invisible, man that feels like
a horror.

Speaker 2 (01:55:23):
Movie and we all know, That like like you live
down In.

Speaker 3 (01:55:26):
Tennessee, man if you just start hearing random humming of
like circus music but you don't see, anything you're just
gonna start.

Speaker 2 (01:55:33):
Shooting that Means i'm gonna get.

Speaker 3 (01:55:35):
Shot i'm gonna die in that situation because people are
gonna hear me and then they're just gonna start shooting
in invisibility all of a. Sudden squeaky, Muscles, like at
LEAST i still got the muscles, Right, like all, Right
i'm announcing myself WHEN i walk, in and then you're
gonna look at my big muscles Like i'm In i'm into.

Speaker 8 (01:55:49):
Squeak, yeah the humming kind of defeats the point of being,
invisible but if you're in like a loud, AREA i
feel like it could be. Valuable but, anyway let's spin
the wheel. Again this wheel is. Amazing got stuck there
for a. Second, yeah we got got a greased up.
Again would you rather have to end every sentence with
according to my calculations or begin every sentence with an

(01:56:12):
evil villain?

Speaker 4 (01:56:12):
Laugh mary's off Off mike evil laugh makes makes it
the evil laugh for.

Speaker 5 (01:56:18):
Me that was, ideal not.

Speaker 4 (01:56:20):
Evil, really that was absolutely an Off mike evil cackle back,
there AND i already evil laugh like it's it's just
a part of MY.

Speaker 5 (01:56:28):
DNA i wish THAT i could do something about.

Speaker 4 (01:56:30):
It apparently it sounds a bit like a friendly monster
WHEN i, Laugh but uh, yeah give me the evil, Laugh,
mary that was.

Speaker 8 (01:56:35):
Excellent it's the Arab, Ins that's what it.

Speaker 5 (01:56:37):
Is, Amen.

Speaker 3 (01:56:38):
HONEY i would take the evil laugh, also just because
at the end Of i'm just imagining getting to a
heated argument with somebody like you suck according to my,
calculations like you're gonna get.

Speaker 2 (01:56:49):
Hit i'm out on that, one all.

Speaker 8 (01:56:51):
Right we got time for one more quick, one one
more week quick. One all, right this one's. Good would
you rather be followed everywhere by a mariachi band or
have your life narrated? Loudly he, MIGHT i, add by
a sports.

Speaker 3 (01:57:01):
Announcer the sports, announcer because if the mariachi's, Bad i'll
never forget.

Speaker 4 (01:57:05):
Myself what buck sports announcer my ego would Just i'd be.

Speaker 3 (01:57:09):
Thrilled thanks for everybody for, watching for, Listening we appreciate
you watching

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