Buck Reising & Tracy Sandler Talk Philip Rivers Return, Joe Burrow Cryptic Comments & More!

Buck Reising and Tracy Sandler (in for Jason Fitz) open show beginning to set the stage for Week 15 in the NFL... They look ahead to come of the biggest matchups of the day before discussing Philip Rivers' return to the field. They also preview the Heisman Trophy ceremony, giving their final predictions for who wins the award, along with who they'd personally give it to. Plus, more fun with a new edition of 'Would You Rather?'

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Is Tracy Sandler here with Buck Rising for Fox Football Saturday.
We are going into week fifteen and there is much
to discuss in the NFL. There is much discussed in
college football. Heisman Awards given out tonight, So it is
a big day at Fox Sports Radio and I am
excited to be filling in on this show. This is

(00:26):
my first time here, so thank you for having me.
Let's talk a little bit about a crazy week in
the world of sports. There were so many things that
went on, not the least of which is, of course
Philip Rivers, who's coming out of retirement at forty four
years old to play quarterback for the Indianapolis Colts. And

(00:47):
so that is going to be an interesting one. Let
me ask you, Martin, what are your thoughts on mister
Rivers coming back to the NFL.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
I think that if I was a thirty year old
free agent quarterback right now, I'd be like, what is
going on?

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Oh right, You'd be so upset. I could totally understand that.
I mean, I think about I mean, I don't know
what thirty year old three free agent quarterbacks are there?

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Oh, just you name them? Whoever there's has to be
someone out there. But also it's just like this is madness,
this is absolute madness, and I'm going to watch it,
but it's also going to feel I'm gonna feel a
little dirty about it, the same way I felt like
when Alex Smith came back from his leg injury. It
was all like, oh, yeah, this is awesome, and then
on the next play Aaron Donald jumps on his back.

(01:30):
I imagine we'll see something similar to that where it's like, oh,
it'll be great, and then it'll play it.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Have to play football, yes, and then I'll have to
play football. I'm so interested in this because I kind
of feel like I've been saying this this week and
I don't know if it's apropos, but i'd like your
thoughts on this. You know, when a team fires a
coach and then they have that like interim coach bomp
and they they're like two great games and it's like,
oh my god, this guy should be their coach. That
is just a disaster. Or a couple of years ago,
Kirk Cousins goes out, Josh Dobbs comes in, looks like

(01:58):
the second coming of Joe Montana for like two to
three games and then things go terribly wrong. Do we
think Philip Rivers has like I came out of retirement
bump going on here?

Speaker 3 (02:09):
See, I think it's all going to be a countdown
until he takes his first hit. Like I think he's
going out throwing the ball routes on air. I think
he's got the arm talent. Still, it seems to be
something that doesn't leave you as long as you continue
to like work out consistently. And he's been throwing you know,
in the backyard and throwing it like high school football.
But I just it all comes down to the first hit.

(02:32):
If he's able to get up, we'll see how it looks.
But like I could see, like maybe for a quarter,
for a half, like first fifteen plays, everything looks good.
But then as soon as like the reality of oh,
here comes a nickel dime, here comes a nickel blitz boom,
and like he gets shot in the back, Like does
how does he react when that's seventeen gets hit? Buck?

Speaker 2 (02:52):
We've got you here. We're talking Philip Rivers. We are
on the fence about how this is going to go.
I would love your thoughts. I wanted to go, well,
I'm going to go ahead and say that. I think
it would be super fun if it just goes really
really well.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
Well, hell yeah, you wanted to go. Well, it's an
old man out there trying not to die. I mean,
he's facing yes, that itself just for his own well
being at this point, guys, I mean, and thank you
for your patience herero as we work out some technical
difficulties on our end. No, it's going to be a
fascinating case study to see what happens with Philip Rivers,

(03:25):
the degree of difficulty of the defense that he is
getting dropped in against, also the fact that they have
the Houston Texans further down the road, assuming that he survives.

Speaker 5 (03:35):
This first start.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
He is not quite as old as Tom Brady was
in Tom Brady's final season, but I just can't imagine
that he is. He wasn't mobile when he was at
the peak of his powers, much less this. If I'm
Jonathan Taylor Tracy, I'm assuming that I'm just in for
a thirty carry, thirty five touch kind of day, because
this man is going to be a sitting duck back

(03:58):
there behind a Colts offensive line that used to it
just a little bit more mobility.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yeah, Philip Rivers walked in and they're like, Philip, this
is Jonathan. Please get connected with his number in his face.
Get comfortable with that because you will be giving him
the ball pretty much every single play. You are a
figurehead quarterback. But I don't know, I don't know. I
think it to be fun. But yeah, they have the Seahawks,
it's a very tough defense. Next week they have the
forty nine ers, who are that defense is up and down.
They're getting the job done, but we'll see how that goes.

(04:25):
But then the Texans. I mean, this is not an
easy task and it's so bananas because the Colts started
the season seven and one and there's a highl likelihood
they're not going to make the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
No, the division ended up being a lot more competitive
than I think any of us realize. The AFC South
has forever been just garbage at this point, but now
we've seen a bit of a resurgence in Jacksonville. I
don't know how much people are currently trusting Trevor Lawrence.
I don't know how much I trust the Texans offense
or C. J.

Speaker 5 (04:54):
Stroud.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
I certainly trust their defense. It's the best in the league.
The Titans are god forsaken. I'm out here in San
Francisco covering that game tomorrow, Tracy against the forty nine ers,
and I'm looking forward to meeting you in person because
i know that's the team that you cover on a
regular basis. Not sure what I'm gonna make of that situation.
Titans are coming off a win against Cleveland, but in

(05:15):
the AFC South it's pretty convoluted. I would say that
top to bottom, Indianapolis had the best team coming in
there with Daniel Jones at quarterback. I just don't know
how much the math changes with Philip Rivers now.

Speaker 5 (05:27):
The thing that stands.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
Out I don't know if you saw the JJ Watt
tweet about them being in production meetings and understanding that
Rivers and Shane Stike and the Colts head coach have
been having weekly conversations because apparently Rivers, as a high
school football coach, has been running the Colts offense, so
apparently they're not going to miss much of a step.
In terms of his ability to recognize, diagnose, use the keys,

(05:53):
the checks and all those kind of things. I just
can't imagine he's been out of it since COVID, his
last game was a COVID play playoff game against the
Buffalo Bills. The speed of the game, I don't care
how much you cognitively can still adapt and react and
adjust to what you're presented with with the opposing defense. Physically,

(06:14):
I don't know, what does he look like throwing a football?

Speaker 2 (06:17):
And I think thinking that when you brought up Tom Brady,
I was just thinking, I mean, yes, Brady was older,
but Brady was You're in and you're out preparing to
play football the next season, so just from being in shape,
it was better. I mean, I think one of the
first questions someone asked Philip Rivers was what his weight
is right now? And I thought that wasn't nice. But
I think it goes to what kind of shape is

(06:39):
he in? In every way? And you're right, what does
he look like throwing the football? It makes tomorrow's game
extremely interesting. It was already an important game for everybody,
but it sure makes it extremely interesting, and I for one,
very excited to get an eye on how it's going.

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Tracy Sandler filling in this week for Jason fitz. FITZI
just absolutely copping out of his work responsibilities. I got
an eight am flight out to San Francisco. He texts
me at six point thirty in the morning says he
can't be bothered to show up to work today. So
fortunately Tracy is here to make this a far more

(07:38):
professional sounding broadcast than it is on a weekend week
out basis, we got ian Mary Mack holding it down
in the studios in La.

Speaker 5 (07:46):
So as far as the AFC goes.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
Tracy and We'll be able to have a conversation throughout
the course of today's show. We're going to get into
the Heisman Trophy stuff as well. That of course takes
place tonight. I have two I'm conflicted, and I'll explain
why when we get to that in the next segment.
But as far as teams that you trust in the AFC,
which is the team that you trust the most right

(08:09):
now because that conference feels as wide open as it
has in the past at any point in the past
ten years.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Absolutely, and it's just in every week. It just I
trust a different team more or less than I trusted
them before. I would say I do still trust the Bills.
I do. I think, you know, Josh Allen is a
tremendous quarterback. They have issues, They have tremendous issues. I
think they also their window may have expired, but I
do trust them. And then I'm going out on a

(08:37):
limb here and I'm going to say I trust Denver
because that defense is so good that I really think
that they can go far. In fact, if I had
to make a pick right now for the Super Bowl,
I would put them in it as the AFC team.
So that might be the Broncos. I think it's a
hot take, but I think am I just think that
defense is so good, and I think because because the

(09:00):
AFC is so wide open, that that defense may be
the game changer. So that's so I'm going to put
in there. Now. There are other good teams AFC. I'm
not I do think that the Chiefs are probably done,
but by the same token, they're the Chiefs, so I'm
not I don't feel like I can really say it
until the playoffs start and they're not in it. New
England will be an interesting one. I think they've obviously

(09:21):
had a tremendous season. Drake may is spectacular. But will
this be one of those things like they had a
tremendous first season or Vraable massively improved. They get into
the playoffs, they lose early. I don't know. But that
Broncos defense, I think that's what it is. That Broncos defense.

Speaker 5 (09:36):
Just speaks to me, Well, it's cheat code, right.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
If you've got a defense that's just going to give
you more and more opportunities to get your offense back
out on the field. Whether it's just because they're able
to suffocate the opposition or they're able to create turnovers
and bunches, it's just it's such a benefit for especially
a player that's I don't know, is it unfair of
my tracy if a call bon Nicks.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Or rat No, I don't think that's unfair. I mean, honest,
you could call me Erratick and I would think that
was fair, but you could call Bonix erratick. I think
that that is a fair term for Bonix, and I
think it's also kind of where he is in his career.
We're seeing it with other second year quarterbacks as well.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
Yeah, so sure so as far as the erraticism of
the quarterback goes, when you're gonna have a guy who's
going to take chances, who's going to maybe not necessarily
be as controllable of a variable as Sean Payton is
accustomed to, you go from the most routine and mechanically
sound and discipline one of the most disciplined quarterbacks and
Drew Brees for the vast majority of Sean Payton's career,

(10:37):
to a guy who's just going to kind of bleap it.

Speaker 5 (10:41):
And chuck it down the.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
Field and maybe look at different reads or go outside
of the normal progression that that play and that concept
is supposed to present to him. I thought Ryan Fitzpatrick
the last time that the Broncos were on Thursday Night Football,
did a really good job articulating some of the kind
of variances that Bonicks adds to the Broncos offense as
opposed to what that play and what that concept is

(11:02):
actually supposed to look like in terms of the execution there.
So I understand your point, and it's tough to like.
I don't think that they should be knocked They're underdogs
at home this weekend. In fact, both of these teams
that are on ten game winning streaks, in the Patriots
and the Broncos, are underdogs at home. And I understand
that it would be near impossible for the Patriots this

(11:24):
year to sweep the Bills. They went to Buffalo, they
won earlier in the season. That's going to be a
huge point of contention as we move closer and closer
to playoff seating. Although it doesn't feel like the Bills
are going to be able to catch the Pats at
this point in time unless the bottom completely falls out for.

Speaker 5 (11:39):
Them after the bye.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
I don't think that Denver, or Denver in particular, I
don't think Denver should be slided just because they win
close games. I think to your point that defense is
what is winning them these close games.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Absolutely. I think if you can win close games you mentioned,
I covered the four n adders. I've covered this team
for years, and I've seen them have seasons where they
snatch defeat from the jaws of victory and then they
will switch when they're on they snatch victory from the
jaws of defeat. They've done that a lot this season.
If you can do that as a team, if you
can win those close games, because in the playoffs, those

(12:13):
are going to be the games. They're gonna be close,
and it's gonna be they're gonna be difficult. I don't
think they should be slighted for that either. I just
think people aren't. I guess, unlike myself, not everybody seems
to be sold on the Broncos. But I do want
to go back to the Buffalo in New England game
because can we all agree that if the Patriots sweep
the Bills, and I think the Bills are just I mean,

(12:35):
what do you even do? You're like I had, we
had an opportunity. They they were untouchable for years, and
then we had some time and we never got it done.
And now here they are again sweeping us Ian.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
How do you feel about this as a Jets fan
in the AFC East where you are, You've just been
tortured by Tom Brady for two decades and then the
Bills they get this. You and a corn of a quarterback,
this mad max of a quarterback out there, and Josh
Allen that's dominating on a regular by this says hell,
Miami even looks like it's got a little more.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Uh, they've got some ooph Yes they do well.

Speaker 5 (13:04):
No, they're not a great run.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yeah, I want to just say something to you, in
all Jets fans.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
I wasn't done piling on you, by the way, No, no, no,
I love just saying cracy. He interrupted me because I
was twisting the knife a little bit.

Speaker 5 (13:16):
He knows how this goes.

Speaker 6 (13:17):
I'd keep it going.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Well.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
I was just gonna say, I think it would be.
I'm going to give you carte blunch. I'm going to
give you permission to at this point say I have
given being a Jets fan a really good run. I've
given it my all. I've supported this team through thick
and thin, mainly thin, and it's been difficult and I
can't take it anymore, and it's time for me to
pick another team. I'm giving you an all Jets fans,

(13:40):
the permission to go ahead and do that.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
Well.

Speaker 6 (13:42):
I appreciate that, and I on behalf of all Jets fans.
I'm sure we all appreciate that I personally just can't
do it. I've been I'm twenty five years old. I've
inaden for them for twenty five years, So I can't
just jump ship now. And I'm sure if I did,
they would just become good next year.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Well that's but then you could go back and be like, well,
in fairness, I was a fan for twenty five years
and I left so that they could be good. No,
if you love someone, let them free.

Speaker 6 (14:06):
Nah, it's just not how my fandom goes.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
But I yeah, no, I get it. I couldn't do either.
But I just wanted you to know I feel for
you and all Jets fans everywhere.

Speaker 6 (14:16):
At that's a nicer way of putting it than book.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
Well, yeah, because I'm just here to make you. Make
you miserable, Bud, Like, that's just kind of the dynamic.
Tracy is here to provide maturity and context and nuance
and all of those things. And yeah, that's just not
what the show Tracy is. She's going to learn throughout
the course of the next hour and forty five minutes.
That's not really what we do around here. But it
is a Fox Sports Saturday. There is the Heisman Trophy Awards,
coming up later this evening, so we will get into

(14:42):
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Speaker 4 (15:36):
It's Bucking fits with Tracy Sandler filling in. I sent
Fits to the south Pole because he called me a
south Pole Elf.

Speaker 5 (15:44):
I wouldn't have it. I am Tracy.

Speaker 4 (15:48):
It's not that I'm anti Christmas music, Okay, It's just
I feel like there's an excessive amount of Christmas music
far too early in the holiday season with people like
FITZI who are going on November first to buy the
discount Halloween items while blasting Mariah Carey as he drives
around wherever he is now, I think Connecticut at this
point in time.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Well, Carmon made a good point last week that I'm
going to have to reiterate then get some Thanksgiving bangers
made and out there, because what else are they? If
you want to be festive, you got to go straight
into kiss Christmas music. There's no like other than like
gobble Gobble gobble, It's the turkey trot rock, which I
can't believe I even remember that. Other than that, there's

(16:30):
a thing, no, no, you gotta go.

Speaker 5 (16:31):
You got an a cappella, let's go.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
I think that's all. I think those are all the
long lines that I remember. But then they're just not enough.
There's not enough Festi music. You've got to go into it.
And also, Mariah Carey, all you want for Christmas is
you like at midnight out on Halloween. It should just
be blasted all over like the country, like it should
be a moment the world where everybody just gets Riah

(16:53):
Carey going it's time and singing the song.

Speaker 6 (16:58):
I's trying to figure out the kindest way to disagree.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
It's funny that he knows that I am doing that
because he can't see me, and he knows the kind
of faces that I make in these situations. But yes,
we will, we will. We will be diplomatic with our
guest Tracy this week. I don't know whether diplomacy is
going to matter for the Heisman Trophy ceremony later this
evening or not, because things are at least as far

(17:25):
as the dialogue around the four candidates, and really it's
just the two, right The two betting heavy favorites are
heavy betting favorites are the Indiana quarterback for Nanda Mendoza
and the Vanderbilt quarterback Diego Pavia. There are four attendees
in New York for this evening ceremony, but those are
really the two who have the best case to be
considered or be awarded the best college football player in

(17:48):
the country. And I don't know where you fall on this.
I have bias on both sides. I'm an Indiana alum,
even though I cannot claim them as a fan, never
went to an Indiana football game in college. They have
historically been the worst. We're all Notre.

Speaker 5 (18:05):
Dame fans in that state.

Speaker 4 (18:06):
It's a very, very bizarre situation for me to see
an Indiana football program be good because if Fredeando Mendoza
were to win the Heisman tonight and Indiana basketball were
to win at Kentucky tonight in the first game since
they've brought that rivalry back, the basketball game would mean
infinitely more to me because the football team was never
a part of my life, even though I'm happy for

(18:28):
my alma mater, and also I live in Nashville for
ten years at this point in time, West End just
down the road from our studios in downtown Nashville, and
Vanderbilt doing anything of consequence in football is an incredible story.
But I wonder, as you look at the two players,
is there one that you think definitively deserves this award
more than the other?

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Who I was thinking about this because I knew we were
going to talk about it. I think no, Honestly, I
don't know that one deserves it definitively more than the other.
But I think Fernando Mendoza should win the award, but
I don't if if Diego Pavia won, I wouldn't be like, well,
that's ridiculous. It really shouldn't have been him, So that

(19:09):
is that is my feeling. I think this is Fernando
Mendoza's award. I think what he's done has been pretty incredible.
The performance we saw last week was pretty incredible, and
I think it's his award to win.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
So Mendoza is as we mentioned, the odds on favorite
two nine and eighty passing yards, thirty nine total touchdowns.

Speaker 5 (19:31):
They win the Big Ten Championship against.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
Ohio State, a thing again, in my head, that is
unthinkable as an Indiana alumni to say that Indiana in
a Big Ten Championship game beat Ohio State to become
the number one team in.

Speaker 5 (19:42):
All of college football. It's a very, very weird experience.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
And I probably that's probably part of why I'm on
the Fernando Mendoza side, because I appreciate him beating Ohio State.

Speaker 4 (19:52):
Just so, and because you are a Michigan A love yes, yes, yes,
well I can play.

Speaker 5 (19:57):
If you can't meet them yourself, then then some the.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Next best guy I think is India.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
Nice to see them stub their toe against somebody at
this point in time, and they did not play a
very good game. Julian Say will be at the Heisman
Trophy ceremony this evening as well as well Jeremiah Love
the Notre Dame running back. But both of those two,
all the three quarterbacks are in the playoff. Notre Dame
famously left out of the postseason. What you this point
in time and take that and further taking themselves out

(20:24):
of the postseason because their athletic director is a petulant child.
I say that as somebody who likes Notre Dame and
wants to see Notre Dame succeed. But with Pavia seventy
one point two percent of his passes three and ninety
two yards, twenty seven touchdowns, eight picks, he's clearly and
obviously more of a dual threat than Mendoza is. And

(20:45):
I would disagree with you, Tracy. I think that Pavia
is the best player in college football because to me,
the Indiana thing Kurt Signetti the head coach. He's back
to back head Coach of the Year in college football.
It's never happened before in the history of the award.
Signetti is Indiana's Pavia. You don't have what Indiana football

(21:08):
has become without Kurt Signetti because he just did this
last year. Basically did this last year with Curtis Rourke,
who would go on to be a draft pick a
transfer in from Ohio. And in Mendoza's case, I think
that maybe Mendoza puts them over the top as the
number one team in the country. He's being talked about
as the number one overall draft pick in the upcoming
NFL Draft. We'll see how that manifests. But in Pavia's case,

(21:32):
I don't think that you have any kind of success
in Vanderbilt or for Vanderbilt football without Diego Pavia. He
to me, is so much more important to what that
team has been able to accomplish versus Mendoza, who's obviously
done a great job. But I think feels a bit
more interchangeable here based on the track record of the
coach that's put them in a position of prominence.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
You've made a really good argument, and you have convinced me.
You have convinced me.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
I know.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
I still think if whoever of the two of them wins,
is the right choice, if that makes sense, like I
think that is fair, But you have convinced me now
that it should be Diego Pavia also a friend of mine,
like a family friend's son is on the Vanderbilt team.
He's wide receiver, so I probably should just go that
direction anyway. But you you've made an excellent case, and

(22:21):
you've convinced me, your honor, this.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
Is this is far too reason you normally fits mes
fights me, tooth and nail and everything.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
You make a good kise me. They're both really good candidates.
They really are. And I think I think your point
about Kurt Signetti is correct. I still think Mendoza is
a lot of why they were successful. But you're right
without Pavia Vando. I mean, when when is the last
time we were talking about Vanderbilt football in this way?
And so I think without Pavia you make a very

(22:49):
good point.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
See.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
I can be argumentative, but I also when I'm wrong,
I say I'm wrong.

Speaker 5 (22:56):
Well, I wouldn't say that you were wrong.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
I would just say that there's additional context that was working,
okay in this particular situation. Speaking of context, let's get
caught up on all things in the world of sports, Martin,
what have you got for us?

Speaker 3 (23:09):
The Army Navy game's over now may be improving to
ten and two, eight and one in the American Conference,
that seventeen to sixteen win over Army, maybe getting that
last touchdown with about five minutes left in the game.
Army Foster six and six, four and five in conference.
Now in the NFL, Philip Rivers has signed to the
Colts fifty three man roster.

Speaker 5 (23:30):
The forty four year old.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
Expected to start tomorrow against the Seahawks.

Speaker 5 (23:34):
He was eligible for the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
That clock now restarts as long as he was signed
to the active roster, which he obviously was so now
he will not be eligible again until twenty thirty. The
forty nine Ers that plays Brandon at Uk on the
reserve slash left squad list that'll end his season. Forty
nine Ers likely will move on from the wide receiver
after this. Now listen Christian McCaffrey as questionable with a

(23:57):
back injury. The Cowboys do not activate Trayvon Diggs. He
was expected to try to get out there against the
Vikings this weekend. He was a limited participant in practice
all week. Green Bay Packers added Emmanuel Wilson to the
injury report. He's got an illness. Josh Jacobs questionable with
a knee injury. Lions downgraded Thomas Harper out with a
concussion against the Rams, and guard Christian Mahogany also out

(24:21):
with a leg injury. Mike McDaniel said that he expects
running back de von A Chan to play for the
Dolphins against the Steelers on Monday Night. Football bears optimistic
that roam A Doonda will play on Sunday. He's been
dealing with a foot injury. And this is not really
a story, but I just want to Ian's producing the
show and Thretter, cent and Form. The Jets are on

(24:43):
pace to force the fewest turnovers in a season in
NFL history. I just think we should highlight things of
like highs and lows. You know, two turnovers on the year.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
That was so kind. See this is what happens when
I'm on the show. People turned kind. That was fine.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
It's bucking fits on a Fox Sports Saturday. That's Tracy said.
Lucy's filling in for Fitzie, who is unwell today. Apparently
he could not even make a noise today, only to
be able to text us and say that he was
not going to be able to do the show. So
we appreciate Tracy filling in on a short notice. To

(25:24):
Martin's point, Ian, I was looking this up the other
day because I was just looking at some numbers between
the Niners and the Titans.

Speaker 5 (25:29):
I'm out here in San.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
Francisco covering the Titans side of things, Tracy covers the
forty nine Ers, so we'll both be at the game
tomorrow at Levi Stadium and Santa Clara together. I was
stunned because the Niners, at Tracy, if I'm not mistaken,
have the se are tied for the second fewest interceptions

(25:50):
in football this season with five And then I saw
the Jets with a fattle goose egg next to their
interception total.

Speaker 5 (25:58):
Not a single not op.

Speaker 4 (26:00):
This year for Ian Roddy's Jets. I just, again, not
that we're about piling go on around here. I just
couldn't believe with my own eyes that we were through
fourteen weeks of football and they don't have a single interception.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
I mean, that's what's funny, though, is the forty nine
Ers were like on pace for that because they had
going back to last season, I think went twelve games,
which was almost a record without an interception. So, I mean,
if that makes you feel better, the forty nine Ers
are in playoff contention and they're not like that far
back from all Jets on that.

Speaker 6 (26:30):
It tells me if Robert Sala had got another year,
they might not be in a different situation in terms
of the turnover department.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
That's fair. I think we can all agree that Robert
Sola was not the big problem.

Speaker 6 (26:39):
I mean, yeah, definitely, But I mean at this point, though,
I mean, I'm almost rooting for them not to get
an interception, because it'd be cooler if they just want
the entire year without a single one's dubious honor.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
It's cool to get a dubious honor. At least it's something.

Speaker 6 (26:51):
Yeah, it's something you can.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Hang your hat on that and be like, well, you
may your team have won the Super Bowl, but my
team set her record and didn't have a single interception.

Speaker 6 (26:59):
As a teer runs down face.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
Yes, but not just a tier like a no Sean
moreno tier like a super tier falls from your poor
Jets fans, eyes listen. This is where Ian and I
have to exist, Tracy. I'm not a fan of the Titans.

Speaker 5 (27:13):
Got help me. You couldn't pay me to be a
fan of that team.

Speaker 4 (27:16):
But I cover them and they have been god forsaken
at this point for I mean, this is the fourth
consecutive season that they've had double digit losses, and I
still don't think it equals the depths of Jets fandom
sadness because Jets fans. Maybe I'm wrong about this, Ian
and you'll correct me if I am, But I feel
like Jets fans they will try and convince.

Speaker 5 (27:37):
You that they're going to win nine or eight games every.

Speaker 4 (27:40):
Year, regardless of the situation, regardless of the coaching change,
the quarterback, what have you. I feel like Jets fans
ironically are almost more optimistic than they have any business
being because of the state of their franchise perpetually.

Speaker 6 (27:53):
I mean, maybe I'm in just different circles, but I
feel like I'm the Jets fans I talk to are
relatively realistic, at least going into a year like this year.
With Aaron Glenn's first first year, I think the expectations
were not overly high. But when it comes yeah, when
when Aaron Rodgers was on the team, it was totally
you know, we're winning the Super Bowl all that stuff,
And can't say that was ever obviously hindsight's twenty twenty,

(28:15):
but I guess that was never even in the cards
at this point.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
But I think you have to be like I think
if you're going to be a fan of the Jets
or anybody or like the Browns, you gotta go into
the season being like, you know what, we can win
eight or nine games because you're a fan Hope Springs eternal,
and you want to at least pretend like there's a
chance you'll enjoy the season, at least until week two
when it's clear you will not, right.

Speaker 6 (28:37):
I mean, that's why you bring in Aaron Rodgers was
to win the Super Bowl. So if that's not in
the cards in your mind, then you know what are
you doing?

Speaker 5 (28:45):
Correct?

Speaker 4 (28:46):
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YouTube and subscribe today. So from down bad to feeling
pretty damn good. At this point in time, the Denver
Broncos and the New England Patriots are on ten game
win streaks apiece. It is insane to me because I
covered Mike Vrabel for all six years that he was
in Nashville, obviously in his first stint as a Titans

(29:27):
head coach. I looked at that roster this year, guys,
and I said, arguably, that's a worse roster than the
one that I'm covering here in Tennessee. Or you could
have a conversation about what they have in New Orleans
and understanding that Drake May was a top draft pick
and that the possibility of ascension is always on the table,
and the Josh McDaniels factor here, a very experienced offensive

(29:51):
coordinator who you don't have to sweat out the idea
that he might leave you for a head coaching job
because he'd been a flamed out head coach twice in
his career at this point in two. The more improbable
story this year in the NFL between these two teams,
New England or Denver, to you, Tracy.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Oh, the more improbable I think New England. I think
because I think with Denver, you saw signs last year
they got into the playoffs and you and then they
made some really big off season acquisitions. We talked about
the defense, so I think it's not as shocking. I
think the Patriots are pretty surprising that in year one
they're doing this, and what a difference of coach makes.
But I would say they were the bigger surprise.

Speaker 5 (30:27):
Which is just it. It's so it's so tough. Do
you do you know Mike Grease, Tracy, I've.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Met Mike Grease. I don't know him well, but I
definitely have met Mike Greece at the combine, I believe, yes, Mike.

Speaker 4 (30:40):
Grease for those and I think I've told the story
on our show before, but not to you, Tracy.

Speaker 5 (30:45):
Mike Grease.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
The Titans hosted the Patriots earlier the season, Mike rabel
revenge game. Pats went in there and kicked their ass,
understandably so. But before the game, Mike is in the
press box and just catching up, and we've been a
while since we've seen each other, probably combine similarly, and
he was just kind of he was almost like comforting
me about the idea. Yeah, I know, it's tough and

(31:07):
and these these seasons happen. He goes, I understand. We
just went through a couple ourselves. And I'm just sitting
there and Mike is a very lovely man and a
very well meaning man. But I just it took every
ounce of restraint I have not to laugh in his
face and be like, Mike, a couple of tough seasons,
what are you talking about?

Speaker 8 (31:23):
You?

Speaker 4 (31:23):
You were, you ran the you you ran the sport
for two decades. What do you mean a couple of
tough seasons? Get out of here. With that, Nobody nobody
feels like they Nobody feels more entitled, unjustifiably so the
New England Patriots fans, god forbid, they have a couple
of tough seasons, while the rest of us just, you know,
desperately try and climb into relevancy or hope that our

(31:44):
football teams climb back into relevancy.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Well, and it's funny that you say that, because I
feel that a lot sometimes with the forty nine Ers.
I think I feel like every forty nine Ers quarterback
who was not named Joe Montana or Steve Young is
never going to be good enough for fans for some
reason or another. And I kind of it's a similar
thing that Patriots fans two decades, but Patriots fans in
their twenties have really never saw them lose. And then

(32:08):
there does become this kind of entitlement. Is that getting
upset about having a couple of tough seasons or not
winning the Super Bowl. I think it's it's interesting that
that happens. And I do find that with forty nine
ers fans too, And because they won all those super
Bowls in the eighties, when they've now lost super Bowls,
there's this day like the fans or I said, well, we
don't four and hours don't lose super Bowls. Well guess
yes they do. Actually they've now lost three of them,

(32:30):
the last three that they've been in. But it's interesting
how fans can become entitled in that way.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
Speaking of entitlement, that allegation has been made of Joe
Burrow by some NFL fans who were not amused by
his commentary at a podium earlier. This week, we will
talk about Joe Burrow's cryptic comments and whether anything should
actually be made of them. Coming up next on This
Fox Sports Saturday.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Don't listening to Fox Sports really?

Speaker 4 (33:01):
Welcome back on this Fox Sports Saturday, It's Bucking Fits
with Tracy Sandler filling in for Jason Fitz on Buck Rising.
It's not snowing out here. In San Francisco. Nothing better
than California in December. I like being on y'all's time.
I like being in y'all's weather. It's very nice at
this time here. It's a nice break. It's not like

(33:21):
it's miserable in Nashville in December, but it's certainly a
lovely change of pace for me.

Speaker 5 (33:26):
But it will take a walk by the water before
the show started today, Tracy, and.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
Just kind of, you know, not have to worry about
gloves or a scar for extra layers or all these
different things.

Speaker 5 (33:36):
Not that people are here for a weather forecast, but
you get it.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
Yeah, no, absolutely, I do get it. Is it's definitely nice.
I mean for us. I'm in La right now, and
it's cold for us because it was like sixty degrees.
It's like, oh my god, where do we live. But
it's really quite lovely this time of year. Now everybody
it's La even more than they did a minute ago.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
So we teased entitlement. There's weather entitlement, there's football entitlement.
There's Joe Burrow. And I don't know what your position is, Tracy,
but we'll talk about this after we hear from Joe Burrow.
This commentary from him at the podium on his twenty
ninth birthday, ironically enough, caught people's attention because for those

(34:18):
of us who have been covering the league long enough
or have just been football fans long enough, not that
this was an eternity ago, but we're all old enough
here to remember the Andrew Luck situation in twenty eighteen
and what caused his retirement. And when you hear a
quarterback talking about a loss of love of fun of
the game, it starts to kind of raise some five

(34:39):
alarm fire type situations. Let's hear from Joe Burrow at
the podium in Cincinnati earlier this week, if we.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Could, I want to keep doing this, I have to
have fun doing it. You know, I've been through a lot,
and if it's not.

Speaker 5 (34:51):
Fun, then what am I doing it for? You see,
like through something on your mind.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
There's a lot of things going on right now.

Speaker 5 (34:58):
A lot of things going on right now, well related
personally all the book, So a lot of things going on.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
And young Joe Burrow's like I say that young Joe
Burrow's three years younger than me.

Speaker 5 (35:10):
But I am I am concerned about it.

Speaker 4 (35:14):
If I'm a Bengals fan if I'm a football fan,
because you don't want to lose another star quarterback just
because he's getting the crap beat out of him on
a weekend, week out. Basis, his body has been going
through it these last few years, and it's been.

Speaker 5 (35:26):
A long time. In twenty twenty one feels like eons.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
Ago when they made that Super Bowl run. I know,
because they beat the Titans in the divisional round as
the number one overall seed and basically dropped a football
nuke on the city of Nashville. For as bad as
that game played out. What do you make of Joe
Burrow's commentary and are you concerned?

Speaker 2 (35:45):
I would say it probably is concerning. I think I
do think birthdays sometimes bring reflection, even for football players,
and he has had a lot going on and it
has not been fun for him. I mean, he's also
playing for a team that is not prioritizing an offensive line,
it's not prioritizing necessarily safety. They're known as a somewhat

(36:06):
cheaper team, and so I think it has not been fun.
And he keeps getting hurt, he keeps getting hurt badly
and missing time. That is not fun for a football player.
So I would say, I don't know if you have
an Andrew Luck situation on your hands, but you, as
a Bengals fan, you maybe have to start preparing for
your quarterback to be traded because I also get what

(36:28):
he's saying. If he's gonna have to stay in Cincinnati
the next couple of years, it's not fun for him,
and they keep losing and it's a waste. Like last
year is such a good example. They started out so
badly and then they came back because of him and
came so close to making the playoffs. And it's almost
malpractice to have Joe Burrow and not put everything around

(36:51):
him to make sure you're successful. I covered a Browns
game a couple weeks ago. Their defense is so good
it is malpractice how bad their offense and special teams is.
And I think that's the situation here with Joe Joe Burrow.
So I think as a Bengals fan, you should be
concerned that one way or the other, you're probably going
to lose your quarterback.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
Well, it's an organizational issue, and this is this is
what was Kevin O'Connell spoke about this last year about
how often organizations fail players as opposed to players failing
football franchises and what's done or not done around them
to properly support them. If you look at the numbers
in terms of how many games the two of them
have missed, Andrew Luck and Joe Burrow, it's pretty similar,

(37:32):
and the injuries maybe not the same. Burrows had an achilles,
He's had a wrist injury. He's obviously coming back from
his what was it a high ankle spring if I
remember correctly, I believe it was an ankle injury. Maybe
not a high ankle sprain. I shouldn't speak out of turn,
but dealing with injuries so far this year again, Joe,
Joe Burrow this year, Joe Burrow this year, Joe Burrow.

Speaker 5 (37:52):
What I'm sorry, Joe Burrow this year.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
This year was a toe turf toe.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
OK, so he had he had a turf toe situation,
which is deep unpleasant and ironically enough, it's a year
where the Bengals start by winning their first two games,
which has been Zach Taylor's whole bugaboo. It's the whole
reason Bengals fans are over him. But I mean, if
you're talking about precedent, the Bengals already have a precedent
for this.

Speaker 5 (38:13):
Carson Palmer forced his way out of there.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
Because he was unsatisfied with the way that the Bengals
were handling the situation around him. Burrow is a much
higher ceiling type of player. They have been to a
Super Bowl. They didn't win against Matt Stafford and the Rams,
but they have been to a super Bowl, and just
in the years since then, it's been very disappointing to
see him not properly be supported. I say, this is

(38:36):
somebody who covers cam Ward. Cam Ward had some comments
about just what a toll the season has been taking
on him.

Speaker 5 (38:41):
He's the most sack quarterback in football. And that guy
just got here.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
He so could you imagine for Joe Burrow. So cam
Ward just gets here, gets there and is going through
this and understanding what that's like. And you have Joe Burrow,
who you mentioned twenty twenty one, that's now four seasons ago.
It does seem like go and it's just it is
an organizational issue. And I go back to I said
it is. It's malpractice. It is it's football malpractice to

(39:09):
be in that position. So I understand why he's upset.
I understand his feelings. I think when you're going through it,
you can also be somewhat emotional very different situations. But
Brandon i Yuk after the forty nine Ers lost the
Super Bowl, there were questions of if you really wanted
an extension, and you know, he said things that were

(39:29):
concerning that seemed maybe like he was an emotional at
the time, but as it turns out, it wasn't just
that he was emotional at the time.

Speaker 4 (39:36):
Yeah, there's there's always a little bit of additional context
that's required to understanding the full scope of these situations.

Speaker 5 (39:43):
And maybe Joe Burrow just had a bad day.

Speaker 4 (39:46):
But speaking of bad organizations and teams that do tend
to stay bad, there's teams hiring in the NFL, we'll
talk about them coming up next.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
You're listening to Fox Sports really good, right.

Speaker 4 (39:57):
The NFL season is rolling along, But that doesn't mean
that the hot board hadn't been going for quite some time.
As far as the coaching searches go. Now, we only
have two currently open jobs in the NFL, but that's
enough to get the rumor mill going, or rather I
should say the reporting mill. Welcome back on this Fox

(40:17):
Sports Saturday. It's bucking fits. We got Tracy Saylor filling
in for Fitzie. He's out six. I make sure you
tweet him at Jason fitz and tell him what a
slacker he is, maybe wish him well.

Speaker 5 (40:29):
In the meantime, we'll.

Speaker 4 (40:30):
Just publicly shame him Tracy into showing up to work.
It's really the only tool that I have that's effective
at this point in time. I guess as far as
the two openings that have already been made, the Tennessee Titans,
which I cover on a day to day basis, the
New York Giants fired Brian Dable a few weeks after
Brian Callahan got the proverbial acts. Were you one, what

(40:51):
did you make of the firings in season? Did you
think that that was the appropriate approach? And what do
you make of those two jobs as openings before we
have the rest of the NFL that may also make
consideration to coaching changes.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Though I thought the fire firings were justified. I mean,
the Giants have just been a mess for so long,
and I think there comes a certain point where you
just almost they have to make a statement in theory
that we are going to make change. We are ready
to make change, and we're just going to do it now.
Perhaps similarly with the Titans. You know, I look at
the two jobs. The thing if I'm looking at the

(41:26):
Titans job, which would be disconcerning to me. And I
realize in saying this, there are thirty two of these.
So you want to be an NFL head coach, there
are thirty two jobs, only so many become available a year,
So that goes into your decision making process. But the
Titans seem to be on a run of firing and
hiring and firing and hiring, and I think that is
how bad teams stay bad. And we've now seen that

(41:48):
in those last several years. I mean we talk about
you talked about earlier the twenty twenty one Division game
and Vrabel was the coach. Well we're four seasons removed,
and how many coaches have the Titans had, you know,
at gms are getting fired so and I thought firing
Ran Carthon was done too early. So I just think
that job, if it were me and I got to choose,

(42:09):
I would find that job less attractive than the Giants job.
The Giants may have the other problem where they stayed
too long with someone, but you know, I think that
job becomes more attractive because the hiring frid That there's
the Titans are never going to get better if this
is how they're going to do things.

Speaker 5 (42:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (42:26):
And Amy Adams Strunker's the controlling owner in Tennessee. She
has been on a run here lately. We are now
four straight seasons with a Titans head of state being fired.
What we went Robinson, John Robinson GM, Mike Rabel head
co or excuse me, John Robinson GM. Then they fired
Mike Rabel, Then they fired Rand Carthon, then they fired

(42:47):
Brian Callahan and the Giants before.

Speaker 5 (42:49):
Brian dave All, they were kind of in a maybe.

Speaker 4 (42:51):
Not quite as frequently Yeah, no, judge Pat Shermer like
they had been McAdoo. They had a string of unsuccessful
coch is that didn't quite get as much run as
Brian Daball did, but they also didn't do as much
as Brian da Ball did, even if it did not
work out at the end of the day. And it's
also about the diplomacy reportedly that Brian da Ball did

(43:13):
or did not have with members.

Speaker 5 (43:14):
Of his staff. He had a bit of an argument
that was.

Speaker 4 (43:19):
Maybe not strong enough to call it just an argument
with Wink Martindale, the former defensive coordinator than Mi Kafka
also as the interim head coach and offensive coordinator. So
there are some additional things there to be noted. But
our friend Diana Russini was doing her weekly newsletter on
the Athletic, which you can go out and see on

(43:40):
a weekly basis on Saturdays. It's always full of good
news and notes to be consumed.

Speaker 5 (43:46):
There.

Speaker 4 (43:46):
She brings up Marcus Freeman, the Notre Dame coach, as
somebody that the New York Giants have on their list
of candidates for their head coaching vacancy. She also includes
again the Athletic dot com is where you can read
this quote. I'm told names on the list for the
Giants include Green Bay Packers defensive coordinator Jeff Hafley, Colt's
defensive coordinator, Louis an Rumo, Washington Commander, Washington Commander's offensive coordinator.

(44:12):
That's a mouthful, Cliff Kingsbury, Seattle Seahawks offensive coordinator Clint Kubiak,
and Notre Dame coach Marcus Freeman. Marcus Freeman is thirty
nine years old. He is certainly good at what he does.
That's an interim situation that worked out very well in
the case of Notre Dame after Brian Kelly up and
left for Louisiana LSU and his family, or however his

(44:35):
fake Southern accent went that did not play out well.
He's obviously since been fired. What do you make of
Marcus Freeman as an NFL maybe not as a coach,
but as an NFL candidate in this upcoming cycle.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
I completely understand it. I mean, you see what he's
done with Notre Dame and the season they had last year,
this season they had this year, even though they're not
very happy about being left out of the playoff, but
you've seen what he's been able to do with that team,
and I think he seems like a coach that the
players really respect, that his staff really respects. So I
can totally understand why he would be a name in

(45:09):
this cycle. Some of those other names, to me, might
make more sense just from an experience in the NFL
factor in that you know, may not doesn't always translate,
and nor does college. You know, college doesn't always translate too.
I think there's a handful of coaches that we can
say have gone from college to the NFL and really
been successful. But you know, I think I get it.

(45:29):
I mean, and everything about him kind of would be
probably what the Giants want. I think he's somebody who
potentially looks like he would bring stability to the organization.
He would know how to work with players, he would
potentially draft well, all of these things. So I get it.
I just I just don't know if it might be
too soon. And I understand. I also wonder from his perspective,

(45:52):
does he want to stay and win a national championship
at Notre Dame and get a little more experienced there.
But I totally understand he's an excellent coach.

Speaker 5 (46:01):
You know.

Speaker 4 (46:02):
The thing that makes it interesting here is the way
that Notre Dame has handled missing the postseason, missing the playoffs,
and then removing themselves from bowl consideration. They just said, no,
we'll literally take our ball and we'll go home, and
we don't want to do this anymore. If you guys
aren't going to put us in the real thing, then
we don't want to be a part of it. And
I Miami always should have been in the College Football

(46:24):
Playoff over Notre Dame. The entire controversy, the entire reason
why any Notre Dame fan would feel like the rug
got pulled out from under them is because the process
was terrible and the College Football Playoff Committee is it my.

Speaker 5 (46:35):
Words, not yours, Tracy.

Speaker 4 (46:36):
I don't want to speak for both of us here,
but I believe it to be just a total sham
that doesn't matter, and the Tuesday television show can just
be shot into the sun for all I care, because
these athletic directors get up there, make nonsensical arguments that
don't matter, and then we all get pissed off about
whatever the playoff picture ends up looking at looking like
when they finally put out the field and Notre Dame
was ahead of Miami the entire time or almost the

(46:58):
entire time, even though losing the had the head earlier
in the season. Then they flip flop things. Everybody's pissed,
not to relitigate the whole situation or Notre Dame fans
are pissed. But the person who I think has really
made Notre Dame look the most petulant in all of
this is their athletic director, Pete Bavaqua, who has made

(47:18):
the rounds on national outlets, local outlets, Notre Dame Podcast
wherever We'll put a microphone in front of this man's
face talking about how slighted Notre Dame is and how
offensive it is that the ACC did not argue on
behalf of Notre Dame, instead choosing to argue on behalf
of one of its member institutions when Notre Dame's not
actually a part of their conference. Ridiculous kind of stuff

(47:40):
from my perspective. They did things like and they've since
reinstated this book signing. I don't know if you're familiar
with Ivan Mazel who's a college football historian who's on
the College Football Playoff Committee?

Speaker 5 (47:52):
Was it notre or excuse me at ESPN?

Speaker 4 (47:53):
For a long time, he had a book signing at
a Notre Dame bookstore because he just wrote a book
about Frank Lahey, the famous note Notre Dame coach.

Speaker 5 (48:00):
They pulled the book signing.

Speaker 4 (48:02):
Because Mazelle was on the College Football Playoff Committee and
they were pissed about it. Now they've since reinstated it
because they looked publicly petty and they got shamed for it.
But if you're Marcus Freeman seeing all of this behavior
play out around you at Notre Dame, I don't know
if Marcus Freeman also was not interested in participating in
bull season despite not making the College Football Playoff. But
I would say, not knowing him or his situation intimately,

(48:24):
if I was just looking at this from an.

Speaker 5 (48:25):
External perspective, I'd say, well, what do I want to
be here?

Speaker 4 (48:28):
If this athletic director is going to make us look
foolish at every turn, why don't I go and try
my hand at the NFL. Because even if I did
fail in the NFL, I do think that Marcus Freeman
would be a viable college football coach candidate.

Speaker 5 (48:39):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
Absolutely. And it's interesting that you bring that up because
it's something I've thought this week. I'm like, we haven't
heard word from Marcus Freeman on this. We haven't seen him,
unfairly in every single story published about it. The photo
on the story is of Marcus Freeman, who has not
said a single word. And so you do make a
good point. I mean, in some ways, the AD's behavior

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is like looking at the Titans job and saying that
that behavior is erratic, and do I want to be
a part of that? So I think that that's a
really very good point. I'm so curious, and I don't
know that we ever will, but I'm so curious to
hear what Marcus Rieman thinks of all of this. But
you do make a very good point, and you're right,
if he does not do well, he's definitely going to

(49:24):
be a viable candidate. I mean, it's he will not
be the first one to go and not do well,
he won't be the last. But you know, I think
it's an interesting opportunity, and so I think it just
comes down to also, we don't know how he feels
about all about all this, and if he doesn't feel
good about it and he would like to go somewhere else,
this gives him a really good opportunity. Or if he

(49:45):
wants to say and perhaps win a national championship, I
just don't know how important that is him. Perhaps he stays.
But you know, I think you make a really good
point about the AD, who I honestly didn't have as
big a problem with it until the AD just started
going out there and saying all these things that were
so ridiculous and just look just so petty.

Speaker 5 (50:03):
Oh I hate it.

Speaker 4 (50:05):
I hate it as somebody who roots for Notre Dame
personally in my fandom, it makes everybody associated with it
affirms whatever stigma you might have about Notre Dame in
your head if you're a fan of an opposing team
or really any other team in the country, because you're like, yeah,
Notre Dame spoiled it entitled there's an athletic director behaving in.

Speaker 5 (50:24):
A spoiled it in title fashion.

Speaker 4 (50:26):
Also to kind of revisit this list that Diana has,
so Halfley, Ana Roumo, Kingsbury, Kubiak, Marcus Freeman. Now maybe
that's not all of the names on the Giants list,
but there is a common theme there with all but
one candidate, Tracy.

Speaker 5 (50:43):
What do all those people have in common?

Speaker 2 (50:45):
They are defensive coordinators, well except for Cliff.

Speaker 5 (50:50):
Except for Cliff. But also none of them have ever
been NFL head coach.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
So you're right, none of them except for Cliff. Oh,
isn't it. There's like some sort of analogy we could
do about a Cliff, and it's all about a Cliff
and going off the list anyway.

Speaker 5 (51:02):
The Cliff Cliff, and we were waiting for the Cliff.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Court all defensive coaches and yeah, none of them have
been head coaches before, And I go ahead, I'm sorry, No,
that's all Please go ahead.

Speaker 5 (51:13):
No, I was just going to say so.

Speaker 4 (51:14):
In Tennessee, the dialogue has been if I'm a Titans fan,
or frankly, if I'm a Giants fan and managing a
situation around a first round draft Picke at quarterback that
has promised, but you know, we're not really sure what
to do with cam Ward and Jackson Dart just yet.
I don't know that we know what to do with
Tyler Schucker, shadors Anders or Dylan Gabriel either, but it's

(51:36):
it's very important, especially in Tennessee, you spend the number
one overall draft pick on a player. Everything that the
franchise does, from janitorial staff onto ownership needs to be
done in service of seeing.

Speaker 5 (51:49):
That number one overall picket quarterback succeed.

Speaker 4 (51:52):
In my estimation, Brian Callahan, who was a first time
head coach in Tennessee, was not equipped to navigate all
the different ins and outs of what that job actually
is versus being a play caller. It's way more than
just an ex's and o's job. I would be concerned
if I was a Giants fan that the list does
not include any other experienced head coaching candidates beyond Cliff Kingsbury,

(52:16):
whose time was not viewed very favorably as a head coach.
Doesn't mean that he can't do it better the second
time around. But I just find that a bit curious.
If I'm a Giants fan, that.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
Is curious, and I would also as a Giants fan
or the Giants, I would be very wary to hire
Cliff Kingsbury as a And I think also last year
if the Commanders was tremendous, this year's been There's been
a lot of injuries, a lot of things going on,
But I don't know that that would not be my
first choice. I actually think in all of those names,
Jeff Hafley is really interesting to me if that is

(52:46):
the kind of the direction, if they're going to go
someone who hasn't been head coach. He has had tremendous
experience in this league. He's part of that tree, you know,
He's part of that Shanahan tree. He's worked with coaches.
I think he's worked with tough coaches. I find very
interesting because I also think he's not just a play caller,
and I think he would understand the different parts of
the job and what that means. So I would find

(53:09):
that to be a very interesting candidate if that was
a direction they wanted to go in terms of if
they don't end up wanting to hire a coach who's
had experience before.

Speaker 4 (53:19):
Well, Tracy's experience is covering the San Francisco forty nine ers,
and I've been banging the drum for Kyle Shanahan to
receive more Coach of the Year love. We're going to
talk about why we think he's not getting more interest
as far as being the NFL Coach of the Year.
Coming up next stick right there, it's Fox Sports Radio.

(53:41):
Welcome back on this Fox Sports Saturday. It's buckin Fits
with Tracy Sandler filling in. We're going to talk about
the NFL Coach of the Year odds. Tracy covers the
forty nine ers. I'm sure you know you're familiar with
her work here on Fox Sports Radio, but I'm curious
about her perspective on the Coach of the Year odds
and why Kyle Shanahan, the coach of the forty nine ers,

(54:02):
is not receiving more love. We'll do that here in
just a second, but we do have some tweets in
response to our last segment. This one from Preller Forever
If talking about Marcus Freeman and potentially not loving the
way that Notre Dame has conducted themselves in the college
football playoff picture fallout.

Speaker 5 (54:23):
We'll call it.

Speaker 4 (54:25):
Preller Forever tweets us and says, if Vanderbilt was Notre
Dame this year and Candace story Lee, the athletic director
Tracy at Vanderbilt, went off about it, you'd agree with
everything she said. No matter what she said, you'd both
be right. Quote unquote. Spoiled does not apply to this situation.

(54:45):
I would disagree, And I understand the point that I
think he's trying to make.

Speaker 5 (54:50):
I'm assuming it's a that he's trying to make here.

Speaker 4 (54:53):
But the difference between Notre Dame and Vanderbilt is that
Notre Dame is an independent Vanderbilt belongs to a college
foot conference in the SEC. Notre Dame is being petulant
about the ACC despite not wanting to be a member
of the conference, which would if they were in the ACC,
have been the thing that put them guaranteed into the

(55:14):
College Football Playoffs should they have had the season that
they did so, I would disagree on that point.

Speaker 5 (55:20):
Those two situations are not created equal.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
I would agree with you on that.

Speaker 4 (55:25):
So as far as maybe you will not agree with
me on this, or maybe you will.

Speaker 5 (55:29):
I'd be curious to get your perspective.

Speaker 4 (55:31):
Coach of the Year in the NFL may awards it
in the NFL regular season.

Speaker 5 (55:36):
Maybe you think they're important, maybe you don't.

Speaker 4 (55:38):
But I am curious about this because I have covered
a Coach of the Year before. It was Mike Vrabel
in twenty twenty one during his time with the Tennessee Titans.
Mike is again the heavy favorite to win Coach of
the Year in twenty twenty five. He's minus two point
fifty depending on where you're looking, most sportsbooks, if not
every sports book, has him favored at this point in time.

(56:00):
I'm Shane Steichen, who was the second favorite has since
fallen out since the Colts have taken a bit of
a dip. Here right now, the top four are Vrabel,
Mike McDonald and Seattle. Liam Cohen with the Jags, Ben
Johnson with the Bears, and then you have to scroll
all the way down to find Kyle Shanahan with a
nine win football team at plus twelve hundred tracy. He

(56:23):
has no players left besides Christian McCaffrey, and even he
is now on the injury report ahead of Tomorrow's game
against the Titans. This man has worked wizardry to get
this team, in arguably the toughest division in football, to
continue to be in a position to potentially win the
division depending on how all this plays out in the
next four weeks.

Speaker 5 (56:42):
Why is Kyle Shanahan not getting more Coach of the
Year love?

Speaker 2 (56:45):
Because and I first of all think he should be
getting tremendous coach of the year love. I actually did
a pull on Instagram a couple weeks ago and said
should he be the coach of the Year. I think
the reasoning is, this is my guess, is that maybe
nashally or maybe people are not paying close of attention

(57:05):
to the fact that they've lost Fred Warner, They've lost
Nick Bosa, they lost their their first round draft pick
this year. They were six games without brock Purty, they
were six games without Ricky pearsall. They were five games
without George Kittle. But I think if you look at
the forty nine ers, people look at the forty nine
ers and say, yeah, but they have Christian McCaffrey, and
they do have brock Purty and Mac Jones played really

(57:27):
well and all that. So I think that that might
be why that people look at the team and look
at the talent around the team, But if you really
go into it, it's really unbelievable what he has been
able to do. And I think Robert Salla gets a
lot of credit for this as well, but what he
has been able to do with this team for all

(57:47):
of the reasons I just mentioned, because it's not just
the guys they lost for the season, it's the carousel
of guys that they've been dealing with all season long.
We have Tatum Bethune, who was Fred Warner's replacement. He's
now out for He's been out for a few games.
He'll probably probably come back next week, but there's just
so many things that he's had to deal with and
has kept this team together and kept them winning. He's

(58:10):
not getting enough credit. But my feeling is the reason
is that people look at the talent and they're like, well,
he has all that talent, even if guys are interest
He's got those guys and he has Christian McCaffrey, and
I think that which is a huge part of also
why they're doing well. But I think that he has
Christian McCaffrey comes into play, and I suppose you know.

Speaker 4 (58:28):
I mean, McCaffrey's been awesome this year. He leads them
in both rushing and receiving. He's been he's always been
a very versatile piece, and honestly, to his credit, since
that trade from Carolina that saw him land in San Francisco,
he's been very available, Yeah, which was a huge concern
after he got that second deal.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
Other than last year, but yees, other than last year,
he's been very available.

Speaker 5 (58:48):
Other than last year.

Speaker 4 (58:49):
But I just guess, I guess on principle what they
gave up to get him versus what he was at
the time, Like that was a huge talking point if
I remember correctly.

Speaker 5 (58:57):
In twenty twenty one.

Speaker 4 (58:58):
Just to kind of put this against the last Coach
of the Year candidacy and winner that I covered, vrabel had.
I think they set the record for the number of
players that ended up dressing for them throughout the course
of a football season because of the rash of injuries, right,
AJ Brown miss time, Julio Jones miss time, Derrick Henry
was done for the remainder of the regular season, and

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they still won twelve games and were the number one
overall seed in the AFC.

Speaker 5 (59:25):
And there was some conversation.

Speaker 4 (59:27):
I don't know if you're familiar with Aaron Shots, who's
formerly a football out outsiders now he does FT and fantasy,
But he called them the worst number one seed in
the history of DVOA, right the advanced efficiency metrics. And
maybe it was right because they pooped themselves in the
first round and Ryan Tannehill threw three picks and it
was a.

Speaker 5 (59:44):
Terrible, terrible game.

Speaker 4 (59:45):
But what Vrabel did was basically duct tape that thing
together enough to get them to the point where they
were winning at a high enough level, and they won
their division and they won the opportunity to have that
first round by Shanahan is in a much more loaded
NFC doing damn near the same thing. And maybe it's not,

(01:00:07):
you know, Deontae Foreman or Dante Foreman off the couch
or buster screen out there playing corner the way that
it was for the Titans in twenty twenty one. But
this is this is still the degree of difficulty that
he's done. Their defense is not good. I would say
they don't rush the passer, well, they don't turn the
ball over at an exorbitant rate, but they're good enough
to keep them in these games. To give them an

(01:00:28):
opportunity to win. Their offense is still one of the
most efficient in football despite missing all of those pieces
and parts that you named earlier. I mean the fact
that McCaffrey is doing both the heavy lifting in on
the ground game and as a wide receiver for them
or as a receiving option for them.

Speaker 5 (01:00:45):
And I love Juwan Jennings as a Tennessee.

Speaker 4 (01:00:50):
Product, and you know all the things that Jawan brings,
But I know that Juwan has his limitations, and that
if that's if that's basically your number two wide receiver
out there across from McCaffrey, you're having to do a
hell of a lot more as far as defending that scheme.
His scheme is the thing that makes them viable. From
my perspective, maybe you could disagree.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
No, I don't disagree at all. I think it is
one hundred percent of the thing that makes them viable.
I think he's also going up coaches. I think you
look at what the Bears have been and Ben Johnson's
come in and turn them around. Mike Rabrael has turned
this team around. It's almost as if Kyle Shanahan is
a victim of his own success because it's maybe the
feeling is well. Of course, of course they're doing well.
It's Kyle Shanahan. He could do it. And I don't
know if that's part of the thought process too, but

(01:01:32):
it is most certainly his scheme that is keeping them together.
Mac Jones did a tremendous job. Mac Jones did a
tremendous job because I think mac Jones is very talented
and because Kyle Shanahan put mac Jones in a position
to do a tremendous job. And I do think that
that is getting underlooked. But I do think also part
of it is you have these other teams that were,

(01:01:53):
frankly last year disasters and these coaches. He's come in
and just turned things around dramatically. But I really think
that that's what is. I think it's that he has
so much talent, and so people don't think through what
that means. And in all those players I mentioned, I
did not mention Brandon Ayuk, who has never played us
out for them this season, so I don't get it myself.

(01:02:16):
I would put him as a favorite to win Coach
of the Year. But when I take a step back,
the reason I think he's not getting those those accolades,
so to speak, are for all the reasons I mentioned.

Speaker 4 (01:02:28):
Well, we'll get back into the conversation here in just
a second, but first we have to get updated on
what's happening in the world of sports.

Speaker 5 (01:02:34):
Barton, what you got for us?

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
Philip Rivers activated on the cult active roster. Now, the
forty four year old is going to start Sunday against
the Seahawks. That going to restart his clock for the
Hall of Fame. He's now going to be eligible again
in twenty thirty. He was obviously elgible this year and
decided to go ahead and kick that down, kick that down.

Speaker 5 (01:02:58):
The road for go throw the ball the Boys.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
Forty nine Ers have placed Brandon Ayuk on the reserves
last left squad list. That's ending his season, as Tracy
just said, probably likely ending his time in San Francisco.
Forty nine Ers listed Christian McCaffrey as questionable with a
back injury, adding to their laundry list of.

Speaker 5 (01:03:18):
Guys who are nicked up.

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
Cowboys keeping Trayvon Diggs on injury reserve. He's not going
to be activated. He did practice all week. He was
a limited participant. Apparently had great practice, but not good
enough to go Sunday. The Lions downgraded safety Thomas Harper
and guard Christian Mahogany to out.

Speaker 5 (01:03:34):
Against the Rams to to at.

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
Well is activated off IR for Los Angeles Hill play
in that matchup. Bears optimistic Roman Dunese will play on Sunday.
He's dealing with a foot injury. At the end of
the third quarter in the Eastern Conference Semifinals of the
NBA Cup, the Knicks have a one hundred to ninety
two lead over the Orlando Magic right now on Ogi
Ananobi with seventeen points leading the Knicks right now, and

(01:04:00):
Jalen Brunson is on a heater. He's got thirty seven,
So good game for him so far.

Speaker 5 (01:04:08):
See how that one ends up. Back to you, guys,
So Fox Sports Saturday.

Speaker 4 (01:04:14):
Here on Fox Sports Radio, it's Bucking Fits with Tracy
Sandler filling in for Jason Fits. So, Tracy, we've made
the second hour the Tracy Sandler Hour because we're dabbling
in your area of expertise. We've done the Niners. Now
let's talk about Michigan, where you are an alum. I obviously,
the Sharon More story is awful, tragic, very very sad.

(01:04:38):
So many different people, particularly his family, impacted by the
scope of it, and we understand the chargers that have
since been handed down on him, and that he has
been relieved of his duties as the Michigan head coach.
But to make it not to push aside the human element,
but to make it about the football conversation at this
point in time, as Michigan alum, understanding that you almost

(01:05:03):
can't separate the traumatic story that is the job of
the Michigan football coach. Where does that kind of put
you as a Michigan football fan trying to figure out
who the hell is going to coach that football team
next year?

Speaker 5 (01:05:16):
Respectfully to Biff Pogey.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
Yes, respectually to Biff who I think who is great,
but I don't think is looking to coach the football
team next year. I they they're in a tough place obviously,
because they got to figure it out. They got to
get the right guy, and they got to get the
right guy fast because the transfer porter portal opens in
on January second. So it's a coaching search that has

(01:05:39):
to happen, and they have to get the right guy
at a time where a lot of things have dried up,
and getting the right that guy might mean getting him
from somewhere else, and there was a lot of coach
talk about dilling him. It looks like that is not
going to happen. So they're in a really tough spot there,
you know. I go back and forth. I feel like
on some level, they really need to swing big, and
they need they just got to bring someone in who's

(01:06:01):
really good, who's really proven, will bring immediate stability to
the program, all of the things. But by the same token,
that person may not exist, and there may be somebody
out there who's a really good coach who just is
not a thought of as a quote unquote swing big
because he hasn't been in a place yet where he's
considered so a big time if that makes sense. I'm

(01:06:22):
not sure that was the most eloquent way to say that,
but I just think they're in a very tough position there,
and they're in a position where they also have a
ad there who is seemingly part of this process, and
he has been problematic. But I think there it's going
to be interesting. I saw Dani Rolovsky said the other day,

(01:06:43):
and I thought this was a good way to put it.
He said, if I'm Michigan, I don't care that you
just signed an extension. I am making the call and
make you say no. And I think there are those
people out there, and they just are also in a
hard place because some of those people are coaching in
the College Football Playoff and so those guys are not
necessarily in Kiffin and so they're not just going to

(01:07:05):
get up and leave their teams. So there's a lot
of moving parts here, a lot of pieces. I have
kind of my favorite, who I think is as a
lot of people's favorite, but they are in a very
tough position like this could not have come at a
worst time.

Speaker 5 (01:07:21):
Who is your favorite?

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
Calin Debor.

Speaker 4 (01:07:24):
Okay, So he's currently the head coach of the Alabama
Crimson Tide and he's been there now for what two seasons.
This is his second season if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
They a Michigan in the National Championship tw years ago
when he was a coach of Washington.

Speaker 5 (01:07:37):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (01:07:39):
So you have now a situation where Alabama is in
the College Football Playoffs despite looking useless in the SEC
Championship game against Georgia, something that was a point of contention.

Speaker 5 (01:07:49):
In my part of the world.

Speaker 4 (01:07:50):
But as you look at Alabama, there was reporting on
two fronts. Todd McShay, whose longtime ESPN are now doing
draft analysis in college football analysis for The Ringer, said
that it was possible if Alabama lost the Iron Bowl
to Auburn that Kaylen de Boor could be in a
situation where he was not the coach of Alabama. And

(01:08:11):
obviously they won the Iron Bol. They did not win
the Iron Ball convincingly, and so Kaylen de Boer continues
to be the coach. They now have a College Football
Playoff berth and they have a first round matchup at Oklahoma,
which is a fascinating game. That Oklahoma went to Tuscaloosa,
a rematch that we saw earlier this year. Oklahoma went
to Tuscaloosa and won. Now there is enough credible noise

(01:08:33):
out of Alabama that should Deboor lose have a first
round exit in the College Football Playoff, that his job
may still be in danger. This is a circumstance that
feels very fraught, and I wonder, Tracy, if he's not
good enough for Alabama, why would you think that he's
good enough for Michigan or do you think as we
talked about entitlement early in the show from fans and

(01:08:55):
different elements of the sports world. Do you think Alabama
just has two highest standards all was going to be
an impossible element to try and be the guy after
Nick Saban.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
I think that, I really do. I think that that.
I just think what impossible. I would not want to
be the person that calls Nick Saban. Nick Saban is
not just an Alabama legend. He is a legend the kids.
It's like following in football. It's like following football. God,
I mean, it really is. It's that's what it's like.
So I think whatever he does short of winning the
championship at Alabama, he's just not going to be considered

(01:09:26):
good enough. And Saban did not win the championship his
last year, But I think the standard is basically impossible
for the person after to more whoever, whenever and whoever
that is. I don't necessarily think that'll be the case,
but right now I think that is the case. So
I think he is good enough for Alabama. I just
think the expectations are way too high based on his predecessor.

(01:09:48):
One thing I don't want to see them do, and
I could be wrong about this, is I think they
got to get somebody who's been a head coach. They
can't bring in another coordinator. I mean it's not it's
not the fault of all coordinators everywhere that they can't
become head coaches because of what happened with Sharon More.
But because of what happened with Sharon More, they have
to bring somebody in who is a proven head coach

(01:10:09):
who has done well in the places that he has
been And I mean I think Klen Debori. I mean,
he went to the National Championship. He lost to Michigan,
but Michigan had a team of eighteen guys that went
to the NFL after that. After that season, he got
Alabama to a bowl game, which he lost to Michigan.
Last year, and then this year they're in the playoffs.

(01:10:29):
I think, I think he's a really really good coach
and I'd love to see him in the Maze and
Blue should that be the case.

Speaker 4 (01:10:39):
Another interesting element here, and there's been no reported or
rumored interest from either side at this point in time.
Kyle Whittingham on Friday announced that he the second longest
tenured head coach in college football, twenty one years at Utah,
where he's had a very very successful program. Now he's
obviously a little longer in the tooth. But experience is
not the concern there, and it was made clear in

(01:11:02):
Stuart Mandel's reporting at The Athletic that he was not
retiring after twenty one years at Utah, just simply stepping
away from the program.

Speaker 5 (01:11:10):
At this point in time.

Speaker 4 (01:11:11):
He's been there since taking over for urban Meyer, for
as long ago as that has been when urban Meyer
was the coach.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
Sorry for my visceral reaction to the words urban Meyer.

Speaker 5 (01:11:21):
I understand for different reasons.

Speaker 4 (01:11:24):
I understand, but I would you be interested in Kyle
Whittingham or is that too much experience because you're.

Speaker 5 (01:11:31):
Looking for something a little more long term at Michigan.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
No, I don't think it's too much experience. I think again,
based on what they have gone through the last several days,
perhaps that sort of stabilizing presence who has been doing
this for a very long time is a good person.
Have You're right, he's been very successful at Utah. He
has been there twenty one years. I mean, I wouldn't

(01:11:53):
want them to hire a coach that, in theory, has
gone in two years. I mean that I don't think
is what they want. They need someone who can be
there a few years to kind of keep the programs stable,
continue recruiting well, get rice underword going like all of
the things, and make them successful. You know, I think
I think Michigan fans have had a little bit of

(01:12:14):
entitlement because they look at those past, those last few
years under Harbaugh and how successful they were, and they
were tremendously successful, and they had some of the best
players in the country. But you can't compare and this
is you know, one thing I think that was happening
in the show More era. You can't compare those the
current teams to those teams, and so Michigan fans can
be a little bit entitled too, which a coach is

(01:12:36):
going to have to deal with. But I would be
interested in that. I think stable and successful are huge
things for this team right now because there's been a
lot of before this. You know, they won the national championship.
I love Jim harbaught like more than anything, but there's
been a lot of things that have been missing in

(01:12:56):
the last several years, and so I think bringing someone
in with some stability, maybe it's not like the sexiest
name in the world, but that doesn't make him not
a good coach.

Speaker 4 (01:13:08):
Well, stability and success. It's not what this show is
famous for, but we will do what we are known for.
Would you rather?

Speaker 5 (01:13:15):
With Tracy Sandler filling in for Jason Fitz coming up.

Speaker 4 (01:13:17):
Next, welcome back on this Fox Sports Saturday, it's fucking
fits with Tracy Sandler, who's been so kind to fill in,
She's brought up the level of professionalism.

Speaker 5 (01:13:30):
By quite a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:13:31):
Now the bar was very low, but nonetheless we've gotten
it done.

Speaker 5 (01:13:35):
Tracy. We do appreciate it, but you have one more
thing to do.

Speaker 4 (01:13:38):
I'm excited before you say that until you hear Ian's prompts,
and then you'd probably be concerned and you'll never talk
to any of us again.

Speaker 5 (01:13:45):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:13:46):
Again, Ian's chat GPT is being fed weird things. That's
producing even weirder would you rather?

Speaker 5 (01:13:51):
Question?

Speaker 6 (01:13:52):
But it's true.

Speaker 4 (01:13:53):
Are we ready for the Wheel? Are we ready for
America's favorite game show? Are we ready Ian for? Would
you rather?

Speaker 6 (01:13:59):
Okay, that's right, it is, would you rather? I'm just
gonna give you guys a few would you rather? Questions
and you're gonna answer and then we get out of
here nice and easy.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
Great.

Speaker 6 (01:14:06):
Yeah, then, yeah, So Tracy's it's true. The positivity bar
was in the basement, So you've really you've really upped
the ante.

Speaker 4 (01:14:12):
Here positivity, you believe professionalism, both.

Speaker 6 (01:14:18):
But let's jump in. Let's go ahead and spin the
wheel and I go first.

Speaker 5 (01:14:23):
Yeah, yeah, you got it.

Speaker 6 (01:14:28):
Okay, this is a good one to start with. Would
you rather be trapped in a romantic comedy with people
you can't stand or trapped in a horror movie with
your best friends?

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
Oh, romantic comedy for sure. I don't do well with
horror movies.

Speaker 4 (01:14:41):
No, it's I'm very squeamish, very very squeamish when it
comes to the horror movies. Yeah, because then at that point,
you're just watching your best friends die around you, right
in a horror movie, or maybe you die first, depending
on the circumstance.

Speaker 5 (01:14:53):
Like it's that's that's almost a moral cruel, a moral cruel.

Speaker 4 (01:14:57):
Scenario to be with with it in it with your buddies,
but they're just getting picked off one by one, unless,
of course you go first, and then maybe that's a
bit of a merciful situation.

Speaker 5 (01:15:07):
But yeah, give me the romantic comedy with people I hate.

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
Also, isn't the point of a romantic comedy to then
fall in love with the people you hate.

Speaker 6 (01:15:14):
So I mean that's true. Do you want to?

Speaker 8 (01:15:17):
Though?

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
I don't know because I'm not sure who the people are.
But I'm still staying in the romantic comedy, you.

Speaker 6 (01:15:21):
Know, like our good enemies to lover's trope.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
Yeah, come on, it's a vest works every time.

Speaker 6 (01:15:28):
All right, let's spend it again, this damn wheel, don't
hit on it. Would you rather hit every red light
you ever come across? Or always get slow internet when
the sun goes down?

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
Red light?

Speaker 5 (01:15:44):
Oh? Slow internet when the sun goes down?

Speaker 6 (01:15:49):
Though, that's a nightmare on as a journalist too, Like,
that's actually really really tough.

Speaker 5 (01:15:54):
That's a disaster.

Speaker 4 (01:15:55):
No, give me the red lights. I'd sitting in San Francisco.
Effic By the way, I don't know how the people
in San Francisco do it. It's so brute. I mean,
just California in general. You guys have infinitely more patience
than I do. But yeah, I'll take I'll take the
red light. The internet situation. It has to be top
speed at all times or I'll have a padic attack.

Speaker 6 (01:16:22):
All right, Tracy, would you rather be extremely allergic to
your favorite food? I guess we'll say, become extremely allergic
to your favorite food because you have to have a
reason for it being your favorite, or forced to eat
your least favorite food once a week.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
Oh, extremely allergic to my favorite food, buck, or what's.

Speaker 5 (01:16:41):
The other option.

Speaker 6 (01:16:42):
So you're either extremely allergic to your favorite food or
forced to eat your least favorite food once a week.
So essentially, you never eat your favorite food ever again,
or you'll die. Or you have to eat your least
favorite or you'll die.

Speaker 5 (01:16:53):
Okay, you just said allergic.

Speaker 4 (01:16:55):
I said extremely We're not gonna die if I'm lactose
and tolerant.

Speaker 6 (01:16:58):
I have some ice cream extreme allergic. So I'm assuming
this is like pretty bad. Maybe you survive.

Speaker 4 (01:17:05):
Okay, maybe you survive, but it's it's it's up in
the air.

Speaker 5 (01:17:09):
You're at least redlining for a little bit.

Speaker 6 (01:17:11):
Don't eat your favorite food ever again. No, I think
I would rather.

Speaker 4 (01:17:15):
I think I would rather have a situation where I
was forced to eat my least favorite food weekly rather
than be extremely allergic to my favorite food. You know
how I love my saying almost steaks? Do you take
those out of my life? I don't think I could
go on. I can't do it.

Speaker 6 (01:17:29):
You can hold your nose too. There's things that can
make it easier that weekly.

Speaker 5 (01:17:35):
What's your least favorite food and what would that be
for you?

Speaker 6 (01:17:38):
I don't know if on the spin I could come
up with my least favorite, but I I know a
hot take is that I don't like eggs. I'm not
an eggs guy, and I usually get a lot of
flak for that.

Speaker 5 (01:17:48):
No eggs alone not not not a good food. I
need eggs with things.

Speaker 4 (01:17:52):
I need eggs with toast, I need eggs with bacon,
I need you know, I need eggs our ancillary.

Speaker 6 (01:17:56):
Even though I have.

Speaker 4 (01:17:59):
Not an eat eggs Golden Coral. I don't eat at
Golden Corral, Mary.

Speaker 5 (01:18:05):
Damn redneck.

Speaker 6 (01:18:10):
All right, first, really weird one we've gotten yet? Would
you rather have five half sized clones of yourself or
one full sized clone of yourself? Take that however you will, Tracy, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
Going to go one full sized clone. I would be
so much less tired if there was one more of me,
five five with five minie one such a.

Speaker 6 (01:18:30):
Positive way of looking at it. I would have been like,
I don't want them to take my identity and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
Yeah, I want my one clone.

Speaker 5 (01:18:35):
Correct, the one clone will undermine you.

Speaker 4 (01:18:37):
They'll take your identity, They'll they'll steal your banking information,
they'll read your havoc find.

Speaker 6 (01:18:43):
Your life, Buck, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
My clone would not do that. You've spent the last
two hours with me. My clone would never do that.

Speaker 6 (01:18:50):
If it's might be an evil clone, yeah, Bucks, straight up,
clone would just try to take his identity.

Speaker 4 (01:18:55):
My clone would absolutely wreak havoc on my life. We've
wreaked hab it for two hours today. Keep it locked
on Fox Sports Radio.