Bucky Brooks & Andy Furman discuss Deion Sanders' struggles at Colorado, Midseason NFL awards, and Rome Odunze's father's comments!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
All right, how did they get here? Really, that's the
question that is coming right up. Good morning everybody. This
is Fox Football Sunday at Fox Sports Radio. He's Bucky
Brooks and Andy from It and away we go. Bucky,
how are you? How are you? How did you miss me?

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Just tell me? Did you miss me?

Speaker 4 (00:21):
Well?

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I couldn't completely miss it because I had the younger
version of you, but I had a lot of fun.

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I had a lot of fun with yours.

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We'll hold hands together, We'll make it through.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
We will.

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You know, yesterday, Buck, I think maybe one of the

(01:04):
best college football days I've seen in a long time.
I'm not gonna say forever because my memory is not
that good, but for a long long time, it's been
a great day. First off, good news, our guy Bill
Belichick won at North Carolinia is today beaten stand for twenty
fifteen a little bit of a nail bier, but at
least they won their four and five right now, so
we got that out of the way.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
But what about that Indiana game? All right?

Speaker 2 (01:25):
They scored they all scored their Big ten opponents, the
last three of them, by about forty points. They're playing
the Penn State, a losing team. They're up twenty to seven,
and all of a sudden, the Nitley Lions of Penn
State come back. I got to give them a lot
of credit. That team is dead in the water. They
came back. Was it that Indiana just led up or
Penn State just had a lot of grit? I don't know,
but I'll tell you what it was.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
It could have been a disaster for Indiana since they
have lost and you know what. They had lost thirteen
straight to Penn State. It's amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
You would have told me like two years ago that
Indiana is going to go to University Park Penncil Rock
and beat up on Penn Stand, I would have left
in your face. Now, all of a sudden, Indiana has
become a football power.

Speaker 5 (02:07):
Yeah, Indiana is good, But I think what we learned
is this Penn State team, despite their record, they were
a team that was touted as a national title contender.

Speaker 6 (02:15):
And what Indiana found out when.

Speaker 5 (02:17):
The football found out the talent didn't change. Their execution
wasn't what it needed to be, which led to the record.
And you saw when they played together they can go
toe to toe with any team, because you remember they took
Oregon to overtime early in the year. Credit Indiana for
bouncing back. These games are hard games because sometimes your
players can look at the record and they want to

(02:37):
be complacent or lax. Kirk Signetti found a way to
keep his guys in it. They bounced back from some
adversity and they found a way to win.

Speaker 6 (02:46):
And if you look at.

Speaker 5 (02:47):
Every championship team, they've all had to overcome some kind
of game where they were just off the mark, but
found a way to get it done. Maybe this is
their game that they had to overcome and will look
back and be like that was the tip point to
then one on championship run.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yeah, they were down twenty four to twenty what about
four minutes left in the game, maybe with two two
minutes maybe two three minutes left in the ball game,
and they went like eighty yards and ten plays for
the score and they won that ball game and an
unbelievable catch.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
We'll get to that in a little bit later.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
But you know, the more I watch football, be in
college in the NFL, I gotta believe coaching really makes
it difference. And I never thought it did that much
because if you watch baseball, I think what the manager
does is try to just keep everybody together, you know,
kind of like a club. He got twenty five, twenty
six guys on the roster, make sure everybody's you know,
going in one direction. In football, I think it's a

(03:36):
different animal. And I see how different coaches all of
a sudden could come in and turn a program around.
Seeing it in the NFL, and I see it more
so in college. You know, Indiana is Kurt Sidney, What
does he have. What does this guy have.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
That others don't that he could turn around like a
magician make Indiana a winner.

Speaker 5 (03:55):
Well, I mean he brought half his team with him
when he first got there, so that jump starts.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
But the way I think they were from James Anison,
which is not a power, really doesn't.

Speaker 5 (04:02):
It doesn't matter though, like it could, because the levels
of talent are similar if you really look around, like
the talent has been watered out, so outside of like
Ohio State that has collected all the five stars and
maybe Alabama and Georgia the five Stars, and the talent
goes all over the place.

Speaker 6 (04:21):
Secondly, when you take.

Speaker 5 (04:22):
Guys from lower levels and bring them up, you're getting
an older, more mature player because they have to play
all four or five years of their eligibility to have
an opportunity to play at the next level if they're
even good enough. So you get some more mature products,
someone that knows the system, something that allowed them to
play faster early. That builds confidence, and with confidence then

(04:42):
comes the ability to stack on top of that, which
is what they did this year.

Speaker 6 (04:46):
So coming on the hills of last year, they stacked added.

Speaker 5 (04:48):
Some more transfers, kept the chemistry and continuity the same,
gain more confidence because now what he said they would do,
they're doing, and now it kind of becomes that snowball
that rolls in game. He's momentum. So there's a lot
of momentum there. There's a lot of belief there. And
I'll say this, he's a really good coach. He's won everywhere.
That confidence that he has he has with the staff

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that has remained with him through some of those.

Speaker 6 (05:13):
Small schools on his journey here.

Speaker 5 (05:16):
So all of that continuity and chemistry matters, and that's
why Indiana has played so well from the jump.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Okay, I cut something you just said. A real good coach.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
I think Bill Belichick may be one of the greatest
coaches of all time. How Come he's not having an
uneasy goal of it at North Carolina?

Speaker 5 (05:32):
Well, I don't think he's having an easy goal. But
anyone who's paying attention to Carolina in the last four games,
they look like a very competitive team. They're not the
greatest team, they don't have the best players, but they
are scrapping competitive and there has been a pivot and
a turn. Look, no one says that you can wave
a magic wand and your team can be zero and

(05:53):
eleven and then all of a sudden be title contenders.
Though it happened for Indiana, every circumstances situation is different. Look,
Kurt Signetty has been able to catch lightning in a bottle.
He's been able to sustain it temporarily. But at some
point things will level out and we'll get a chance
to see who he is and what he's really like
as a coach when they have some adversity. That storm

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is always lurking and it's always going to come, and
so how he handles that will really be a testament
to his greatness, just like some of these other great
coaches have had to show their greatness, like Dabo and
other guys that have won titles.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Okay, now I ask you a big question of the day.
Fernando Mendoza, Heisman Trophy winner in Indiana, their quarterback.

Speaker 5 (06:36):
I think it's important for me to separate Heisman Trophy
winner in the NFL prospect.

Speaker 6 (06:40):
Yeah, he can win.

Speaker 5 (06:41):
To Heisman Trophy because the Heisman Trophy typically goes to
the quarterback where the Gaudia stats or the quarterback on
the best team, they may end up being the best team,
and there's no one that can necessarily compete with him
in terms of consistency of performance, production and the team's success.

Speaker 6 (06:56):
So yes, he can win to Heysman.

Speaker 5 (06:58):
I think people need to be careful about tit touting
him as the number one overall pick, though, because the
same guy that was at Cal is the same guy
that's at Indiana. And he's fine, and he's a solid player,
but I don't think he's a revolutionary, a game changing
player at the position. So yes, he can win the Heisman,
but I would pause on all the conversation about him

(07:19):
being a number one overall pick.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
All right, Speaking of the quarterbacks, let's talk about Dante Moore,
the quarterback of Oregon who kind of like threaded the
needle at the end of the game. Is thy toy
give that Oregon Duck team a win a heartbreak? Well,
it's a heart throbbing game eighteen sixteen over Iowa out
of Iowa in the rain, and the win in the rain,
it was an amazing It would have been a death
knell if Oregon would have lost that game yesterday figured

(07:41):
about the CFP, they would have been gone College Football Playoffs.

Speaker 6 (07:46):
Yeah, they would have been gone.

Speaker 5 (07:47):
I mean, Dan Lennon does a really good job, and
I think people under estimate how hard it is to
win in Iowa. How good Iowa traditionally has been with
players that typically ranked below the players that they're competing
in against. So for Oregon to take Iowa's best punch
and find a way to win it in the end
testament to their toughness, their character, their grit. Dan Lanning

(08:10):
has an abudding superstar in Dante Moore. There's gonna be
a lot of conversation about, Hey, Dante Moore needs to
come out, he should ended.

Speaker 6 (08:16):
The draft, and those things.

Speaker 5 (08:18):
The best thing for him is to continue to play,
continue to stack days in terms of practice and games
and those things, because ultimately that experience.

Speaker 6 (08:27):
The more experience you have at.

Speaker 5 (08:28):
The collegiate game, the easier the transition is when you
go to the pro game. He is a really good quarterback,
and I hope he continues to say at that level
because there's so much more work to do.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Interesting, Okay, you know two coaches out there that are
gonna get a lot of grief now now the fact
that North Carolina is one of the last three. I
think they're gonna take a little pressure off Belichick and
they're gonna stop running about him and his girlfriend and
in his life off the football field. But there's another
coach right now who's gonna get some grief. It's going
to be Deon Sanders. They lose yesterday at West Virginia
twenty nine, two to three and seven. Right now, I

(09:02):
got to believe the honeymoon may be over. But honestly,
you look at this team. West Virginia had like seventeen
sacks all season long. They sacked the Buffalo seven times yesterday.
I don't know what's going on right now at Colorado,
but it's kind of a little crazy, and all of
a sudden, now I'm hearing Dion Sanders saying that he's
apologizing to the fans. They deserve better, and he's not

(09:23):
permitting the players to be at the postgame news conferences
to talk to the press, which I think is wrong.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Here's Deane.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Let's have a little listen to what coach Sanders has
to say.

Speaker 7 (09:34):
This is what it's about, is not is not whatsoever.
And we are so much better than what we're doing
right now. If I could put my finger on one thing,
you know, you gotta want this thing, man, you got
to have a locker room full of kids that really
want this thing a lot more than they want certain
things that they enjoy. And we we did some team
but we've done everything today of on to try to

(09:57):
flip it. But unfortunately we had I hadn't seen the
fight going out of these young men whatsoever. We just
make some stupid mistakes and we can't capitalize on turnovers.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Well, I tell you what, they were down like twenty
two to sixteen. I had a shot to win that game.
They were like fourth and four from like the fifteen
yard line of West Virginia. I don't know what happened
over there, But are.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
They not that good? Is that? The thing?

Speaker 2 (10:19):
I mean, I understand it's hard to mess guys coming
in from all over the place. It's not like you
recruit guys from one place and they stay together for
several years and they bloss them when they play together.
You're bringing it a crew of guys and I got
to get them together to play together.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
And that's tough. It really is tough with the portal situation.

Speaker 6 (10:38):
I mean, look, I've said this.

Speaker 5 (10:40):
Everyone thinks that all the answers to college football's problems
are in the portal.

Speaker 6 (10:45):
But a lot of.

Speaker 5 (10:46):
Times the portal presents more problems because the guys that
are in there can be problem children because they didn't
like their current situation, or they're self centered enough where
they prioritize.

Speaker 6 (10:57):
Money over team.

Speaker 5 (10:58):
In those things, I would say, in Colorado's case, I
think Dionne said it, you got to make sure that
you have a team of guys that really love it.

Speaker 6 (11:07):
You can't beg them to want to work.

Speaker 5 (11:09):
You can't beg them to do the little things that
you have to do to give yourself a chance to
win each week. That has to be inside you, and
maybe they just don't have enough dogs to be able
to get it done.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
You all right there?

Speaker 6 (11:24):
Okay? Oh yeah, I'm good.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
Oh good. So you would like losing it there for
a second.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
But I hear what you're saying. But now my question
is this, Is there a chance that he's gonna bolt?

Speaker 3 (11:36):
Is he gonna be there for the long haul? Now?

Speaker 6 (11:39):
I mean, I don't know why people think that, yeah,
he's gonna be there.

Speaker 5 (11:41):
I think the competitor in him wants to see him
build it all the way back up. He hears all
the noise, he hears the criticism, like much like Belichick
and those guys like people have been waiting for them
to fail, right, So you gotta look way through the noise,

(12:02):
continue to believe in what you believe in, make sure
you get the right guys, coaches and players to do it,
and then they have to execute it.

Speaker 6 (12:12):
Yeah, I think he stays.

Speaker 5 (12:14):
I think Colorado has benefited more from d than Dion
has benefited from Colorado in terms of the entire school,
the attention, the elevated profile in those things. He just
has to do a really good job of building it
back with the right players, and then they gotta make
sure they coach them right on game day, make sure
that the clock management, game manage, all that stuff is

(12:36):
up to park, no.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Doubt about that.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Okay, Now I answer these segments saying how did they
get here? And that's the question is a question for
me at least, I mean at first college football poll.
It's great, you know, the College Football Poll is great
for coaches, but it's great for media people because it
gives us fun to talk about.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
And the glory question that at least I have.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Notre Dame is ranked tenth in that and I say
to myself, why Notre Day was the highest rate of
two loss team in the rankings. When the rankings were
picked on Tuesday night, they were six and two. They
beat Navy yesterday, big whoop, forty nine ten. They beat
in forty nine ten, so that is seven and two.
The next big game obviously is the fifteenth of the
month as the number twenty four pit. Okay, they got

(13:15):
one quality win at home against usc two losses one
by three against Miami and home by appoint against Texas
A and M And honestly, what about Louisville. They were
seven and one. They lost yesterday, but they beat Miami
and they ranked fifteenth. Notre Dame right now is going
on the laurels of their brand and that's how people vote. Really,

(13:36):
I believe that, and it stinks. You want to have
a full football poll.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
I'm all for it, but be honest, be transparent.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
I mean, really, Notre Dame tenth, come on and their schedule,
and honestly, Buck, you know it's not that tough.

Speaker 5 (13:51):
Well, who do we think is better than them, that
deserves to be up there over top of them? I mean, look,
you not the Dame and the brand and the two
losses that you told me and that Egregious lost. Like
at the time Miami was one of the top teams
in the country when they lost to him and Texas
A and M by one, Texas A and them is
still undefeated. And I just saw Texas A and m
clobber Missouri in a big SEC game and they continue

(14:12):
to like keep the climb. So I don't see that.
I saw Louisville just lose the Cal. I can't dismiss that.
You know, like they lost to Cal. Cal is not
a ranked team, so I can't say that they're better
than them with their two losses. To me, Notre Dame
is deserving of being up in there. We can talk
about the brand and all that they always catch everyone's
best game. They'd beat a really good Navy team that

(14:33):
was seven and one pride to that game. Navy has
been back, Navy's played.

Speaker 6 (14:37):
Well, and those things.

Speaker 5 (14:38):
So I don't dismiss Notre Dame in terms of being
a top ten, top twelve team. To me, if they
run it out, they deserve to be in the playoffs.
Make somebody beat the Brand. This is also a team
that last year got to the finals, and so yeah,
if you want to give them some bonus cachet because
they were the runner ups last year. I'm okay with that.

(15:01):
We do that with the Philadelphia Eagles and the National
Football League. Hey, we're still doing that with the Kansas
City Chiefs.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
The Chiefs.

Speaker 5 (15:07):
The Chiefs are five or four and we're still like, hey,
watch out, they could be the most dangerous team. So
whatever it is they closet, I just know this, like,
when you win, and you win at a high level,
I'm more likely to give you the benefit of the doubt,
and Notre Dame deserves the better the fit of the doubt.

Speaker 6 (15:23):
Basically, howay this year?

Speaker 3 (15:25):
Yeah, I hear what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
You're right, but there's three teams right now, at least
in my mind that have two losses, And you tell
me which one is the best of the three. Notre
Dame is seven and two, Texas is seven and two,
and Oklahoma is seven and two. All right, and they
had to buy yesterday. Okay, So here's the thing. And
Oklahoma lost to Texas. Okay, so what do you put
in there right now? I mean, I don't think Oklahoma

(15:47):
is better than Notre Dame, all right, but I think
Texas is when they come to play.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (15:53):
I just have a problem because so you got a
lot of now you got a lot of conditioners, ifs
and butts and Jamie nuts and.

Speaker 6 (16:00):
All this other stuff.

Speaker 5 (16:01):
Like I just know this, Like Oklahoma and Texas square
it off and Texas beat them. I personally watched Texas
play last weekend against Vanderbilt, and they started off fast,
but they were fading even faster.

Speaker 6 (16:14):
And Vanderbilt's a good team.

Speaker 5 (16:16):
But I can't say that that was a dominant signature
win for Texas. So who else do we talk about
Texas beating that stamps them as a team that we
know to be the contender because we gave them a
lot of credit in Cachet based on the high preseason ranking,
based on how they finished last season.

Speaker 6 (16:34):
It's the same thing.

Speaker 5 (16:35):
I feel like if we're talking about brands, Texas is
living off brain brand recognition as much as Notre Dame.
So I would go Notre Dame Texas in Oklahoma.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Okay, we're gonna find out how good Texas really is
with this. On the twenty eighth of the month, I
think they're at Texas A and m Well May maybe
a home game, Okay, And they got Georgia is coming Saturday,
so we'll see. Right now, it's all gonna come together.
There's no doubt in my mind and will because everything
kind of works out.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
But right now were up in the end. I had
a little bit of a question. Not Your Dame. You
kind of settled me down a little bit in the
Notre Dame situation, So I'm hearing you and you honestly,
I don't mind Not Your Dame being there because you're
talking about their brand. They're a national team, they really are.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
I think they got the lumps all over the place,
and I think that it's great for the game of
college football to have Not Your Dame there because it
gets more eyeballs on TV and it's more exciting. Really,
I think more people want to follow Notre Dame than Texas.
Texas has been followed this year because of Arch Manning,
who to me has been somewhat.

Speaker 6 (17:30):
Of a flop.

Speaker 5 (17:34):
I mean, yeah, I mean whatever you want to call it, flop, disappointment,
all that is true. Right. He certainly hasn't been what
people build him up to be, which was a He's
the next great thing that we're gonna see in college football.
He is a good college football player. See if Sarkisan
has done a really good job of masking his deficiencies
while insinuating his strengths. And they've gone to more of

(17:57):
a side to side horizontal game that is up to
have success and improved the efficiency.

Speaker 6 (18:03):
They are really talented team and when they put.

Speaker 5 (18:05):
It together, as you said, they are one the top
five teams in the country. It's just how to reward
a team that is maddeningly inconsistent and you just don't
know what you're gonna get on a weekly basis. That's
just very, very very difficult.

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Speaker 3 (20:23):
Bucky.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
I know that you knew and know Pat Fitzgerald. Pat
Fitzgerald all big ten linebacker at Northwestern for two years
in a row as a player and as a coach
at Northwestern.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Just to get a winning record is unreal.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
So tell me a little bit because I know you
know Pat Fitzgerald, my correct, I mean, yeah.

Speaker 5 (20:43):
I know from the start when he was at Idaho.
I just started scouting and then following him at Northwestern.
He's a really good coach.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
So the other day Pat Fitzgerald comes up and he
says that he's one hundred percent vindicated. Why because Northwestern
fired him back in August I believe it was of
twenty twenty three. I believe it was, yes, And he
said that there was some evidence on covered throughing some
extensive discovery that some players are reporting for misdoings in

(21:14):
the program.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
Hazing and things like that.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
But Pat Fitzgerald, and he's one of the good guys,
he come up and he had something to say about
that just the other day.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
Listen is the coach Fitzgerald.

Speaker 9 (21:26):
I feel one hundred percent vindicated. I mean, you alluded
to the statement earlier. I let that speak for itself. Unfortunately,
I'm not allowed to talk about other things a part
of that settlement, but I feel very, very vindicated. I
feel again, especially for our players and their families. You know,
the facts are the facts, and you know, I feel
vindicated for our players, our families, our staff, and you know,

(21:49):
I'm just I'm happy for my guys. I got a
bunch of them out there. I think ten of the
eleven starters right now are going to go compete their
rear end off on that defense. For Timmy mcgargoll in LA.
You know this weekend Top twenty defense, I think six
or so of the starters on offense, So those are
my guys. I love him, I'm proud of them, and
I want to see him have great success. And then
you know, we'll see if I get another group here,

(22:10):
hopefully soon.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
All right, Pathwickgerald went one ten to one oh one
over seventeen years as a coach in Northwest, which I
think is unbelievable to have a winning record there with
the academic requirements coming in there. But let's talk a
little bit about the evidence. They said the evidence book
was uncovered during extensive discovery that it did not establish
that any player reported hazing to coach Fitzgerald, or that

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coach Fitzgerald conducted and directed Eddie hazing. That doesn't necessarily
mean there wasn't any hazing going on, but he didn't report,
it wasn't reported to him, and he didn't know about
how well. He's a CEO, so to speak of the
program as the head football coach. Now, let me ask
you this, you played college football, you played football in
the NFL. Is hazing still going on and basically explain

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to us what exactly hazing is to the uninformed.

Speaker 6 (23:00):
Like there are different forms of it.

Speaker 5 (23:02):
I would say this, though, hazan should never put anybody's
life in danger. Hazes should never be so demeaning that
it has psychological effects on players long after their days
are done or whatever.

Speaker 6 (23:17):
I would say that every.

Speaker 5 (23:18):
Team may have an initiation process where they have guys
a young guys pick up the paths you got to carry,
the older guys pass. Young guys, y'all are the last
to eat lunch in the mess hall. Young guys, y'all
have to do all these things before the older guys go.

Speaker 6 (23:33):
But some of the things that have been alleged, not
only at.

Speaker 5 (23:36):
Northwestern but other places, that goes well beyond the line
and well beyond initiating guys into the team. And this
reminds me very much of a few good men when
they talk about did you order the code red in
those things? So guys may be doing that stuff on
their own. The process, we're trying to find out that

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patis general order the code red and they said that
he didn't. So it's very well that some of those
code red activities may have taken place, but it wasn't
at his direction, which is why he was acquitted or
settled or whatever.

Speaker 6 (24:12):
That was.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Well, apparently Northwestern they launched that investigation into the entire
football program after the allegations of hazing and also sexual
abuse were made by a former player back in twenty
twenty two. But I believe that the thing came to
light when it was written up in a school newspaper.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Really, so basically he's vindicated. But I got to believe
right now it's system. He's vindicated. I think he'll be
back coaching real soon. Don't you think he'll get a
job again in the college ranks.

Speaker 5 (24:42):
Yeah, he absolutely will because there are more jobs than
I would say qualified or capable of coaches.

Speaker 6 (24:47):
So he'll land one of those jobs.

Speaker 5 (24:49):
He could land a job at a high academic institution
like a Stanford, because it's very similar to the challenges
that he faced at Northwestern. You talk about that one
ten and one on one record, people would say that
that's an average record.

Speaker 6 (25:02):
If we're basing it on that, we give.

Speaker 5 (25:04):
Him a bit of a curve because it's Northwestern and
people talk about the rigid academic standards and those things,
and how you know, they were the little train that could,
and he found a way to have a lot of
success in spurts at Northwestern.

Speaker 6 (25:18):
So a Stanford would fit some of those.

Speaker 5 (25:20):
Other schools with high academics standards would qualify. But yeah,
he's gonna have an opportunity just because there are too
many big jobs that are open and you want an
experienced guy that knows how to get it done and
who's done it before.

Speaker 6 (25:32):
And he does have a track record being able to
do that.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
You know, he sued the school for one hundred and
thirty million dollars. He said, he can't talk about what's
going on with the case and the settlement, but I
gotta believe it's gonna be a pretty big payday for
him because he was humiliated and embarrassed, and certainly he
came away and he took a good manner because he
was a class guy who was above the fray because
he was fired days after he was suspended. He was
suspended for two weeks by the school. And I thought

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it was kind of really like a rush to judgment
and it was really nothing going on. They had a
story in the school paper, They got a story about,
you know, in the Chicago Press, saying that there was
hazing in the program, but a being but a bang.
He was fired. He was gone, and that was the
end of it. I mean, there was no case, There
was nothing going on. It was like really quick, I
get out of here. And he said he took full

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responsibility for what happened despite not having any knowledge, because
that's what the leader does. He said, we had a
zero tolerance policy for hazing within the program, is what
Fitzgerald said. And I educated the guys, We used our
resources within the athletic department, within the university. And look,
he said, there was an investigation revealed the inappropriate behavior
by players and that was ready to be sure was implicated,

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were held accountable for not living up to the standards
in the program. So there may have been hazing in
the program. Obviously, maybe he didn't know about it.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
But the point that the matter is that you can't
have that And have you seen it so close?

Speaker 5 (26:51):
Well no, I'd like so about seeing it up close.
I have not seen that stuff. I told you, I've
seen Hayes and whatever. But like the sexual implications, those
things that have been there, like that, that part is
really touching. And so when you read that as aspective
parent of a student athlete who wants to go to

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Northwestern and play football, Yeah, that would be jarring. That
would be something that would stand out, That would be
something that put in the cast Northwestern in a negative light.
I can see why they wanted to separate themselves from
that while being investigated, and also to move on from
Pat Fitzgerald.

Speaker 6 (27:32):
Whether he knowingly knew that stuff was going.

Speaker 5 (27:36):
On or not, it's still as the CEO and the leader,
it still falls under your watch.

Speaker 6 (27:42):
And I understand both sides of it.

Speaker 5 (27:45):
He said, hey, I didn't know that this was going on,
but also understand the university being.

Speaker 6 (27:48):
Like, hey, we have the same face.

Speaker 5 (27:50):
I can't allow the coach who was on the staff,
the leader of the staff where these things have been confirmed,
if they've been confirm, earned to continue to exist because
now you're worried about the welfare of your student athletes.
So it's possible for both sides to be right in
the decision making process and they can both go on

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their respective ways.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
I've never seen hazing, but I've heard horror stories where
they'll take a player and tie them up against the
goalposts and throw balls at him. I mean, you know
what I'm saying. I mean stuff like that. I don't
it's humiliating. I'm not going to say it's not that bad.
I think it's bad because you just shouldn't do stuff
like that, But it happens, and I'm sure it still happens,
and it may happen more so on the high school

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level than on the college level, A because it's not
as publicized as the college game, and B there aren't
as many people supervising the program on the high school
level as the college game. Colleges have like you know,
ten twelve assistant coaches, graduate assistants, whoever it may be.
High school you may get a head coach and maybe
two volunteer assistants of that, so you don't know what

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really is going on, right.

Speaker 5 (29:01):
Yeah, But I will say this, how does hazing make
you a better player and a better team? How do
all those things that we're alleging that we're talking about,
How does that make you a better team? Like how
does time somebody to the gold post, showering down with
baby powder, putting ice on theirs?

Speaker 6 (29:20):
Like how can how does that make it? How does
that make your team better? Like? None of this stuff?

Speaker 5 (29:25):
Bill's team camaraderie, I mean honestly, like it's we just
do it because it's always been done and we can
Like that's to me, I think that is ridiculous.

Speaker 6 (29:36):
I think it's always been ridiculous.

Speaker 5 (29:38):
Even some of the rituals and writer passages that have
existed in pro sports or whatever, like the Rookie Dinner
Day where everyone runs up a fifteen thousand dollars tab
and the rookies have to pay for it. To me,
that's stupid because you're asking you're asking the people with
the least to do the most. So with Northwestern and
some of these other colleges in those things like man,

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I just think if you're an institution of higher education,
you don't want that to exist because we're not doing
that with professors. We're not doing that without a level students.
We shouldn't be I mean, you should want an environment
where everyone can flourish. And so yeah, like Pat Fitzgerald
has been exonerated in terms of knowing those things, but

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if those things did happen within that program, I can
see it being problematic for the academic officials, the athletic
officials at Northwestern continue on with that kind of leadership.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
I heard you say about the baby pad of what
else do you know about hazing NY of the hazing
activities that you.

Speaker 6 (30:36):
Could I mean, I don't have anything, but like that's you.

Speaker 5 (30:39):
You basically said that stuff about whatever, like tying people
to the goal post. We've seen that on Hard Knocks
and all that people dunk that we've heard about like
people putting being gay in jockstraps, loading people's cars with popcorn,
a bunch of silly stuff that. I will say this,
I don't believe it takes you wants to up closer

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to winning or being a good team. But because it's
always existed, people continue to do it.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
Now would you consider hazing?

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Like when I watch Hard Knocks and I have the
rookies come up there and start singing the Rookie Show
with things like that, is that hazing?

Speaker 6 (31:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (31:16):
But that like so okay, so let's talk about that.
Like that's different, Right, That's different because all right, man, stand.

Speaker 6 (31:22):
Up there, I'm a fool yourself.

Speaker 5 (31:25):
Yeah, hold your peanuts, sing your fight song, tell me
what your side of bonuses or whatever three minutes. That's
different than what some of these hazing things have been
a ledge like with uh, the sexual assault stuff, with
some of the other things, dark rooms and getting punched
and belted like that is crazy. That is Banana's to

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be And I don't know how anybody on a team
that really cares about their teammate could want to participate
in that kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
I'm with you, I'm there, Okay.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
So patas Show is exonerated, he feels like a new
man and he's gonna be coaching against and know that
about that, I'm really surprised that Luke Fickle got the Okay,
he's going to come back to Wisconsin. And by the way,
Wisconsin winsy yesterday they beat Washington thirteen ten, and honestly,
I couldn't believe this. They stormed the field. They stormed

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the field in Wisconsin A three and sixteen, one and
five and the big ten and they steam the storm
the field and look, they're not going to go to
a ballgame for sure this year Wisconsin the first time,
for the first time this nineteen ninety one and nineteen
ninety two.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
What happened to a once proud program.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Here's a guy, Luke Fickle, who was dominating at the
University of Cincinnati couldn't get it done at Wisconsin. And
I'm sure he had every means to be successful at Wisconsin.
They got the money, they got the alums, they got
the tradition, they got everything, they got the culture. What
did he do wrong in Wisconsin, and how surprised are
you that he's coming back?

Speaker 6 (32:53):
And that's because by was expensive for Wisconsin.

Speaker 5 (32:56):
I think the biggest misstep that Luke filkel made he
got away from the blueprint that's been very successful for
Wisconsin football since Barry Alvarez resurrected the program. Wisconsin has
always been a physical team that lean into the running game.
They did it with local bigs and then they got

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their skill guys from places like Jersey or Florida or whatever,
and it's all worked. But it was a run heavy program.
They had a weather proof team because of the way
they played. It didn't matter what the conditions were like
at Madison. Otherwise, they always.

Speaker 6 (33:31):
Could lean into who they wanted to be.

Speaker 5 (33:33):
Luke Filkuld come from Cincinnati surprisingly decided that he wanted
to have a team that could throw it around the yard.
He brought in an offensive coordinator that put in an
air raid system. And when you think about air raid
with the kind of players that you traditionally gonna have
at Wisconsin, you're already.

Speaker 6 (33:52):
Flying into the win. And it just didn't work.

Speaker 5 (33:56):
It didn't work, it hasn't worked, it doesn't look good
or whatever. They won yesterday, adhere to a philosophy that
has worked well for them. They ran the football. Quarterback
play was not a big of an issue because they
just need to take care of the ball, and they
found a way to win with their run game in defense.
That is how you've always won in Wisconsin. That's the
way Everez done it. That's the way that Britt Bilmer

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did it. That's the way that anyone who's going to
be successful in Wisconsin has to do it. It just
took Luke Fickle, for whatever reason, a long time to
figure out how you need to play at that place.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
Well, I'm glad he's coming back. Noe doubt about that.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
And I'm glad you're here as well, because you have
a Bookie Brooks on Andy Furman. We a Fox Football
Sunday and Foxbuts Radio. We life from the Fox Sports
Radio studios. And of course he's the answer man and
he's ready. What does that mean? Ask Bucky, you.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio?

Speaker 2 (34:48):
All right, Fox Football Sunday. He's Bucky Brooks on Andy Freman.
Of course we are live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.
It's about twelve minutes before the top of the hour,
and that means one thing on one thing only.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
It's time for asked bucket.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yes, all right, and our guy Brandon Deutsch is gonna
lead us off today.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
But are you ready?

Speaker 11 (35:08):
Yeahucky?

Speaker 3 (35:09):
Something going?

Speaker 11 (35:09):
Yeah, Bucky?

Speaker 12 (35:10):
I was gonna ask you because there's been a lot
of discourse on acts about who's the QB one in
this draft class. You're obviously an NFL draft evaluator, a
guy who follows these prospects.

Speaker 11 (35:21):
Who's your QB one right now?

Speaker 6 (35:24):
Man? I don't know.

Speaker 5 (35:25):
I know if I needed a quarterback in next year's draft,
I don't know who I would go to because they
all have been up or down. I just saw Garrett
Nessmayer get bitched, So how can I make him a
number one overall pick? I mean, everybody is bad. I
think right now people are talking about Mendoza, Todd Simpson,
Dante Moore. But I'll tell you, like, they may go
first overall, but I don't see any of those guys

(35:46):
as game changers at the next level.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
You got another one go so obviously kind of stump
Bucky on that one.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
But you came out of the gate pretty well there.

Speaker 6 (35:54):
Take it easy on my namily so I was like,
I don't know if I was No.

Speaker 11 (35:58):
No, I'll ask one more.

Speaker 12 (36:00):
What about this twenty twenty seven class that people keep
talking about Jeremiah Smith, cam Coleman or do you think
the Jets like that playing into effect why they got
all these picks?

Speaker 6 (36:12):
Yeah? Absolutely, I think not only that.

Speaker 5 (36:14):
Right, Let's just put the arch Manning factor there, whether
he turns out to be what people want him to
be or not.

Speaker 6 (36:19):
When you're the.

Speaker 5 (36:20):
Jets and you have five first round picks, you've given
yourself the ability to move up and down the board
to take advantage of twenty twenty six and twenty twenty seven.

Speaker 6 (36:29):
Twenty twenty seven is.

Speaker 5 (36:30):
Loaded because Jeremiah Smith, all those White House come up
at the same time, and they're also pass rushers.

Speaker 6 (36:35):
It could be what we call an epic.

Speaker 5 (36:37):
Draft in twenty twenty seven with a number of blue
Chair prospects that are going to be in that draft.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
All right, Bucky, I'm not the smallest brand. This will
be a lot easier questions right now. Okay, here we go.
I don't like to get at the politics. Okay, again,
I'm not that smart, but I got to ask you
this question. President Donald Trump, wants to wash the commanders toname.
They planned three point seven million, three point seven billion
dollars stadium after him. What's your take on that Donald

(37:01):
Trump stadium.

Speaker 5 (37:04):
I think when people are given honors, you shouldn't have
to campaign and self promote to get those. If you've
done things that are noteworthy enough where people want to
bestow your name on something, it's because of your merits
and the things that you've done.

Speaker 6 (37:19):
I just don't like it because I'm not into Ay.

Speaker 5 (37:21):
You should name your stadium after me. To me, that
is crazy that someone would openly campaign they have their
name on the stadium. I don't like it for that reason.
I think if your accomplishments are worthy enough, they should
speak for themselves, and if people feel compelled to honor
you by putting your name.

Speaker 6 (37:40):
On something, it's because of that.

Speaker 5 (37:41):
So I don't like this because it certainly doesn't play
into a meritocracy.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
It's crazy, all right.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Alex Sofetchkin scored his nine hundredth career goal the other night.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
What is a bigger feat in sports?

Speaker 2 (37:51):
Sof Echkin's nine hundredth goal or a pitcher winning three
hundred career games?

Speaker 5 (37:57):
Well, I would say now, I pitch you winning three
hundred games because they don't their pitchers complete games and
everything is by committee.

Speaker 6 (38:04):
So I would say that is a bigger feat.

Speaker 5 (38:05):
The other thing that I put in that also comes
from Baseball three thousand hits, just because it speaks to
your consistency and your longevity as an a level player.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
You know, speaking about that as an aside. Have you
been watching the A Rod feature on HBO A Rod
or a Rod or a Rod or Alex whatever it
may be.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
It's pretty interesting.

Speaker 5 (38:26):
I've seen some clips. Yeah, I've seen some clips from it.
He's an interesting player. I was in Seattle when he
was up there, and is heyed with King Griffy Jr.

Speaker 6 (38:34):
Or whatever? Like.

Speaker 5 (38:35):
Look, there are people that are on the love hate
train when it comes in. But I think it's undeniable
in terms of what he was as a player without
the steroids, right, and.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
What he accomplished his numbers even after missing an entire season.
It's unbelievable, all right, it's believe it or not. It's
midterm time in the NFL. I can't believe it. But
Bucky biggest prizes team wise thus for midterms, and I'm
gonna give you some examples, maybe the Colts to Broncos,
the Chiefs, or even the Bears.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
Biggest surprise to you, team wise.

Speaker 5 (39:05):
Team was just the Colts. The Indi Andaupis coats have
been able to do it. And I didn't think that
Daniel Jones would be a savior. But what he's given
them is the stability that they've always wanted at the position,
and he's allowed their weapons to play. Jonathan Terry is
playing at a great level, leads the league in rushing.
They have a young collection of pass catchers that are
able to get it done. Yet the Indianapis coach, I

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did not see this team being a heavyweight in the AFC.
And if they continue to kind of finish it off
with Sauce Gardener coming over, there're gonna be a team
that we talk about potentially being an AFC Championship game.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
And finally, during Monday Night Football last week, Peyton Manning
asked Charles Barkley if it was true that Barcley burned
all of his underwear and a fire two decades ago
and he's been going without drawers ever since going commandough,
can you explain this please?

Speaker 5 (39:56):
How would I be able to explain Charles Barkley walking
around commando. Maybe he likes the feel of the swingy
things between those legs. I don't know, but I would
hang it down, Yeah I would. Yeah, I would be good.
I'd be good on that.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
I love Charles Barkley, But now every time I see
him on TV, I look at him in a different way.
I mean, how many people are waiting for him to
stand up during the show?

Speaker 6 (40:19):
You know?

Speaker 2 (40:19):
I mean, come on, Charles, really, did you have to
go public with this? It's something I really didn't have
to know. I didn't want to know that.

Speaker 6 (40:26):
I really, Yeah, that's a lot.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
You are you a Charles Barkley commando guy? Too? But
just just.

Speaker 6 (40:33):
Asking him, I am not. I am not. Nope, all right, do.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
We have time for one more? Could we do one more?

Speaker 8 (40:40):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (40:40):
I guess we do?

Speaker 10 (40:41):
Not?

Speaker 3 (40:41):
We do not?

Speaker 2 (40:42):
All right, We're gonna continue. He's Bucky Brooks and Andy Furman.
It's Bucky's midterm grades and so much more rare right
here on Fox Football Sunday next And in just about
a minute, go on to everybody, this is Fox Football Sunday.
He's Bucky Brooks and Andy Ferman, and we're broadcasting live
from the Fox Sports Radio studios. In a way you go, Bucky,
I got a question for you before we go to

(41:02):
the phones. We've got a caller and Dayton a WHI
own Dayton nine eighty Dayton. But here's my question, and
maybe on way off based on this. Terry mclaurin's having
a problem injury wise with the Washington Commanders, Trey Hendrickson's
having problems with injuries on the Cincinnati Bengals. Both of
those guys will hold out. Is it possible. Is there
a correlation between football players who are holding out and

(41:24):
then have a time to go to camp and practice
and they come back and they get injured.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
Is that a correlation or is it just a coincidence.
I need to know the answer from you.

Speaker 6 (41:34):
I think there's definitely a correlation between those things.

Speaker 5 (41:37):
When you're away and not able to practice and practice
with the team, you can't simulate it on your own,
no matter what we talk about, no matter what we
think about being able to work out on our own,
The intensity, the urgency, all of those things you can't
match because it's competitive. When you're in a team environment,
you also don't have all of the things that the
team has available to make sure that you rest and

(42:00):
recover and get back to your best self quickly. So
for all those guys, mc lauren uh with Hendrickson, some
of those things could be one offs. But yeah, I
think on the surface, you certainly have to look at
the correlation between guys that hold out, guys that are away,
and then guys that continue to participate in camp and
see what the injuries are like.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Thank you very much. That's all I needed to know
coming from you. That's You're the gospel to me. You're
the gospel. All right, here's the gospel of sports callers. Okay,
his name is Dick. Dick from Dayton, Ohio. Listening on
WHIO nine eighty am and Dayton Dick, how are you?
Dick from Dayton? Say a lot of Bucky Brooks.

Speaker 4 (42:39):
Say Bucky, how are you? Andy? It's a pleasure. How
you been, buddy?

Speaker 3 (42:43):
The pleasure is all yours.

Speaker 4 (42:45):
I just wanted to say, Andy, I am so worried
about the Bengals. I've never seen the defense play so bad,
and it was just it was humiliating last week, and
I'm thinking coach of the defense has to go because
they can't do that. We lost Joe Burrow and I'm

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just I'm just parceled by their defense.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Andy this year, Bucket, get him off the ledge, will
you please? I mean, it's just it's not the coach.
The coach, Al Golden's not gonna go.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
After one year? Am I right about that? You're not
gonna get rid of Al Golden? No?

Speaker 6 (43:21):
I mean the coach can't do so much as to players.

Speaker 5 (43:24):
I think they got rid of the coach last year and
the same players are making the same mistakes and not
performing well. Uh, the defense has been the biggest issue
and Zach Taylor ultimately is responsible for that. You know,
Mike Brown has not committed enough money and resources to
that side of the ball, and.

Speaker 6 (43:41):
They just haven't been good enough. Yeah, so it's a
wasted year.

Speaker 5 (43:44):
It's a wasted year not only Joe Burrow being sidelined,
but Jamaar J T.

Speaker 6 (43:49):
Higgins playing well. You can't get that back.

Speaker 5 (43:51):
So they're just a team that's not well constructed from
top to bottom.

Speaker 6 (43:55):
And they got to fix the defense.

Speaker 5 (43:56):
Like with everything, veterans and young players, it can't just
be a wrapped and develop defense.

Speaker 6 (44:01):
You got to ask some veterans that can get it done.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
Jackie. Okay, do you feel a little better now with
Bucky's answer? Yes, a little bit, all right, and who knows,
maybe they could put a little streak together that I
got Pittsburgh next week in Pittsburgh and that division still
to some extent is wide opening.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
Litt Lamar Jackson's back with Baltimore. Have a great day,
God bless you always great hearing from you. Okay, let's
get into this now. Let's get into the midterms, because
I can't believe it's midterm time in the NFL and you,
mister Bucky Brooks, are grading midterms at least for the
MVP on foxsports dot Com. What is your grading system?
How did you do it?

Speaker 3 (44:34):
Because I was amazed that you were able to put
that together.

Speaker 6 (44:39):
I mean, look for mid terms, what you do?

Speaker 5 (44:41):
You're looking at the guys who are playing surprisingly well
and their contributions have been largely the reason why their
teams are playing well. And so when you think about
some of the names that are on this list, it's
about those guys who aren't the name brands, not the
usual suspects, but the guys that have come out of
nowhere to get their team on the precipice of doing

(45:02):
some great things this year.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
Okay, so we're talking about the midterm MVP. There's no
doubt in my mind. As soon as I saw the
headline of the Fox Sports dot Com piece that you
put together, I knew it was going to be a
quarterback list. Basically, the MVP trophy normally is a quarterback,
and you had a quarterback, your guy for North Carolina
playing outstanding this year for the New England Patriots, Drake May.
What is separated Drake May this year from years past?

(45:26):
What put him up there was he he was someone,
as you mentioned, a dark horse contender.

Speaker 5 (45:31):
Well as darker's continue because coming off his rookie season,
which was a complete mess, Drameo and the Patriots were
terrible last year. You had Mike Rabel coming in, you
have Josh McDaniels, who's done one, who's.

Speaker 6 (45:43):
With quarterbacks before.

Speaker 5 (45:44):
You have a team that better fits what Drake May
does in terms of the veterans on the perimeter, Stephan Diggs. Namely,
they're just a better overall team. And then he's played terrific.
I mean, he's been outstanding completion percent and is passer rating,
the efficiency, the accuracy, the explosiveness that the offense has
with him at quarterback, and just the overall improvement of

(46:08):
his swag, his swagger, his confidence, the way that he
is dominating.

Speaker 6 (46:13):
Yeah, he deserves it because I can't think.

Speaker 5 (46:14):
Of anyone who has done more to kind of change
the brand than what Drake May has done to resurrect
the Patriots this season.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
Resurrect himself.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
I mean, he's got one hundred and sixteen point nine
pass already, You're right, a seventy four point one completion percentage.
This guy right now could very well. But with in
the line of not only an MVP, maybe comeback. Would
he be a comeback Player of the Year?

Speaker 3 (46:38):
Can he do that?

Speaker 6 (46:39):
I mean, I think he can't be a comeback player.

Speaker 5 (46:41):
If this was the NBA, he could be most improved,
but mostly Yeah, No, he's improved by leafs and bounds.
I mean, he's been terrific all that. Like, I'm excited
for him. One, he's a guitar hero. Two, having been
around his dad for a long time when I was
an undergrad who was a quarterback at Carolina right before
I got there, couldn't be more excited about a good kid,

(47:02):
just a really good dude.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
Now, was he at North Carolina when nil was in progress?
Was he gonna? Yes, that was what he was Year Carolina.

Speaker 5 (47:14):
Okay, yeah, he turned down big money to stay at
North Carolina. Now I didn't go to way that guitar
he was wanted because I think it was an eight
and five season, But I mean he was, he was.
He was a big git, A big git to keep
him around the program.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
No doubt about that. Now here's my question. And you
got him his number one midterm MVP number two.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
You got a running back.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
And before I mentioned the name, I'm listing to promos
here on Fox Sports ready the other day and my
buddy Rob Parker, who's in the Hall of Fame right now,
Rob Parker's and they named the field after him in
Central Connecticut State. The Rob Parker Press spots on the
field there, Rob Parker says that if you vote for
this guy, it would be like voting for Ross Parot
when Ross Parot was running. All right, So you had

(48:00):
Jonathan Taylor, right, I heard that, So you know it's
true Jonathan Taylor number two.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
And I think Jonathan Taylor is in the running fan VP.
I don't know why Rob.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
Would say that he's really taken Indianapolis to some extent
on his back, at least for the running game right now.
Really and truly, I mean he would I think he's
on part of get two thousand yards this year. I mean, honestly,
he's on wonders for the offense in Indianapolis.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
Why would he say that you got him be number two?
Is it possible?

Speaker 6 (48:28):
MVP?

Speaker 5 (48:30):
Well, he must just hate running backs, because I don't
know why we said that about Jonathan Taylor. The reason
I have Jonathan Taylor the is you just we talked
about the surprise, the bigg surprise being the Indianapolis coast,
and everyone to point to Daniel Jones. But when you
dig deeper, you know is Jonathan Taylor that is really
the strawest Thursday drink. He's averaging right under one hundred
yards per game ninety nine plus. He's been able to

(48:52):
do explosive plays, delivering the grinded out plays that they
need to finish games.

Speaker 6 (48:58):
He has been everything that they've wanted.

Speaker 5 (49:00):
And if you're looking for someone that has been a
catalyst for change, Jonathan Taylor's been the biggest catalyst for
change there. Daniel Jones deserves a nod I mentioned and
we get to that, but yeah, this is Jonathan Taylor
who has really kind of stabilized their offense. And I
don't hit the offense, but he's allowed the offense to
control the game so that the defense also is out

(49:20):
of harm's way.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
Okay, would it be fair to say that Jonathan Taylor
is doing for the Coast this year what Saquon did
for the Eagles last.

Speaker 6 (49:29):
Year in a different way.

Speaker 5 (49:33):
Yes, not as flashy or not as glamorous, but yes,
he's been able to stabilize it and allows the quarterback
to operate as a manager. Now, I'm not taking anything
away from Jalen Hursts like we were talking about last year,
but yeah, like Sakwuon Barkley was the one that you
walked into the game saying, we need to make sure
that we hold him down, the same can be said
of Jonathan Taylor. We got to contain him. And if

(49:55):
Daniel Jones beasts will let him beat us and early
in the year and Taylor's beating him regardless of what
kind of attention they've been placing on him.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
Okay, And speaking of the Eagles for the number three
pick as the MVP midterm you got the Eagles quarterback
Jalen Hurst, who I got to believe does not get
the respect or notoriety he deserves, and I don't understand why.
I mean, there's some great players on that Eagles team
to know doubt about that, and I think that they'll
say that Jalen Hurst is successful because of that big,

(50:26):
brute offensive line that he has to work with, and
that's true, but I think that Jalen Hurst does not
get the recognition I think he deserves.

Speaker 5 (50:35):
No, he doesn't, but the one thing that matters in
this league are wins, and if your team wins and
wins a lot, the quarterback is always going to get
some recognition for that. Jalen Hurts has not put up
the I would say, the most impressive of the Guardian
stat line, but man, when you see it, it speaks
to why the Eagles are winning. He's so efficient only

(50:55):
one turnover, one turnover eight nine games, only one turnover
from him.

Speaker 6 (51:01):
You think about.

Speaker 5 (51:01):
Twenty touchdowns that he's been able to put up, like
he has been really effective operating in the system that
they're asking him to operate in and when you're playing
from in front like they offering to do all you're
trying to do is is like being Tiger.

Speaker 6 (51:15):
Woods on Sunday. We put on the red shirt. We
got a three stroke lead.

Speaker 5 (51:18):
All they gotta do is keep it in the fairway,
like hitting in the fairway, chip and put.

Speaker 6 (51:23):
We gonna win.

Speaker 5 (51:23):
And that's what the Eagles have been able to do.
They're out front, there's nothing flashy about it. They can
play conservatively and win. So they're winning games, and he
deserves credit for making sure that they get to the
winner circle.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Yeah, speaking of the Eagles, I'm looking at the NFL schedule,
and we haven't really touched on the games today because
you know, I'd rather talk about storylines than the games itself.
But tomorrow night might be the best game of the weekend.
The Eagles are playing got Green Bay Eagles six or
two Packers five, two and one. And what makes that
game so great is the fact that I believe it
was the Packers and the Packers coaching staff that really.

Speaker 6 (51:56):
Were oh yeah, big.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Time movers against the touch put. So I think that's
gonna be interesting to see what the Eagles do tomorrow night.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
Do you agree on that?

Speaker 6 (52:05):
You know what they should do.

Speaker 5 (52:05):
They shouldrun a push on the first four plays it again,
right right, they should push, just push it up and
down the field on the package. That's that's the petty
and me that would come out. I would I would
be on board with that.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
And I could see Necessariani doing something like that, and
that's just the way he is, right.

Speaker 5 (52:23):
I can see that because I think it's and look,
I thought I felt like it was a terrible employ
by the Packers to try and legislate the toush push
out the game get better.

Speaker 6 (52:32):
You can't stop it. Find a way to stop it.
Get better.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
It is what it is. Let it goes part of
the games.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
And and they give you the forty excuse that they
wanted to eliminate it because if injuries come on. Really,
I mean, I see some of those tackles that are
being done this year in the National Football League that
aren't called that's worse than the toush push.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
Really.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Yeah, I'm only gonna do three, but I want to
do the Uh, this guy I think you have ranked
number five because this guy's are thrown and you say
this guy could win the MVP, the Defensive Player of
the Year and also the Comeback Player of the Year.
Aiden Hutchinson the defensive end for the Detroit Lions. I
just love this guy. He's at every play, gives one

(53:11):
hundred and fifty percent every player. I love watching him play.
Old school kind of football player.

Speaker 5 (53:16):
Yeah, old school throwback. I mean coming back off the aco,
you didn't know what he's gonna be like. And he
has been even better than when he left. Seven sacks,
four force fumbles or from recovery energizer Bunney off the edge,
and he's doing it without like a real solid dude on.

Speaker 6 (53:32):
The other side.

Speaker 5 (53:33):
To take away some of that attention that speaks volumes
to who he is and how he gets Now, he
is a terrific player. He is someone that dominates the
game and you feel his presence, which I believe you
should feel the MVP when they insert themselves into the game.

Speaker 6 (53:49):
You feel his president. That's why he has to be
in that conversation.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
Okay, now we're gonna get into some fun stuff because
this is the stuff that you know makes the NFL
and separates the NFL from the rest of the because
you know, we follow as fans every movement of every
player in the National Football League. It's like a soap opera.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
You don't see that in baseball, really and you don't
see it in the NBA, you really don't. But in football,
whatever happens to a guy on the field, off the field,
his social life, it's wonderful. It really just keeps them
in the news every single day. I've talked about Romeo
and Duze, the wide receiver for the Bears. He had
to answer some questions the other day wide receiver. He
said just the other day that his.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
Father's get his father's posts on social media are his prerogative,
but they don't obviously speak for him. And he was
a first round pick. He's coming off.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
He was in Cincinnati last week coming over his first
NFL game without a catch.

Speaker 3 (54:41):
In that game, although.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
The Bears won, They's scored forty seven points, beating the
Bengals forty seven forty two, and that list second went
over the Bengals unbelievable list Sunday. He was targeted three
times in the game. Let's hear from mister rome Ondoza
on what he had to say about his daddy's social
media posts.

Speaker 7 (55:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
No, I don't make a big deal out of it.

Speaker 6 (55:01):
You know, obviously he has his opinions.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
I have mine, and he's like he needs to voice
those things on social media.

Speaker 6 (55:06):
But you know that's that's that's his prerogative, but he
needs to himself. I speaking for myself.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
Have I talked to him?

Speaker 12 (55:13):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (55:14):
Have you guys discussed it? Yeah, we talked about it.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
What do you say, I'll keep that practice.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
Oh, you know this is the stuff that you hear
with Little League parents. You don't hear it in the
nights to football.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
Now have you heard this throughout your career or even
now that some parents are getting involved with their kids'
actions on the field.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
That this is crazy to me?

Speaker 6 (55:36):
Really, I don't know why it's crazy. It happens all
the time.

Speaker 5 (55:40):
Like you think if they're involved in meddling and literally
and then they continue to meddle in high school, they
likely meddling in college. You think the meddling is going
to stop when they get to the pros? Then the
parents and magic you want to turn on the turn
on the a I'm a good sports parent, switch and
sit by the sideline and let their kids kind of operate.

Speaker 6 (55:58):
No, they can't do it.

Speaker 5 (56:00):
And every team has a parent or a handful of
parents that wants to wait in and they believe that
they know what's best for the team and the player
and what you always have to recognize. And someone told
me this a long time ago when I just got
into coaching, that the overwhelming majority of pearents want little
Johnny to be All League rather than for your team

(56:21):
to be.

Speaker 6 (56:22):
A championship team.

Speaker 5 (56:23):
Every parent looked at the game from a selfish standpoint
in terms of how does this impact my kid rather
than how does it impact the team and does it
bring us closer to having success that we want to have.
So I'm not surprised that Romandunza's dad is vocal and
all that on social platforms. I am surprised that it

(56:44):
didn't take long for Roma Dunza to check his dad
and tell them, Hey, man, you're messing up the bag.
The more you talk, the more it impacts me. You're
messing up the bad.

Speaker 6 (56:53):
So pipe down and just own it and let me
handle my part of it.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
Piped out, Pops getting your checks. I'm sending you a
check every week. Just pipe down, take it easy now.
After I went to Cincinnati last week, James Dunjay, his dad,
posted a message on social media that asked, get this
whether the Bears would quote trade his son to a
team that will actually throw to him, and another post
have declared that they receive a quote should be seeing

(57:20):
at least ten targets per game. Oh my goodness, I
mean that's embarrassing. I mean, and I'm sure the guys
in the locker say, hey, hey, Rom, I mean, has
Daddy gonna write again to the team about you? Did
they do that in a little bit little teasing there
in the locker room?

Speaker 6 (57:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (57:36):
Look, man, he may get joked on a little bit.
Depends on how sensitive he is to take in those jokes.
But yeah, someone's gonna at least fire off one to
see how it lands, and then they determinative. Anybody else
says anything, but what everyone has to understand. Everyone connected
to you who speaks out the team looks at you
because they said.

Speaker 6 (57:54):
They had to come from somewhere.

Speaker 5 (57:56):
So that's why he's having to stand there and answer
those questions, Hey, are you happy? Do you feel some
kind of way? What do we need to address? Let's
address it right now. That's probably why Rome is annoyed
because it's changed his standing in the locker room, in
the meeting rooms. He's having to deal with more noise.
I'm having to now ask questions about stuff that you posted.
That's not of my opinion, that's your opinion, but I

(58:18):
have to answer it. So his dad also has to
understand who he represents, the brand of Roma Dunze, and
you keep messing up the brand. We got to move
on from you. And I'm sure that was the conversation
that Roma Dunes they had with his dad.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
Well, what you said, it basically comes to pass because
you said that parents right now and you learned this
in coaching, they're more concerned with their kids' success and
the team's success. And obviously it's proof positive right here
with James his dad posting that message. He doesn't care
that the Bears is somewhat turning it around this year
and having a great offer. And by the way, his

(58:55):
son leads to Bears and targets and receiving yards and
receiving touchdowns, and he's tied with his fellow team and
I think he's tied with with thirty one receptions on
the team right now.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
I'm not so sure about that.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
But the thing is he's having a heck of a
year and the Beer's somewhat seeing some light. Finally they're
turning it around. Well, Ben Johnson. So I mean again,
his dad could care less about that. I mean he
wants to see his son do more. I don't get it.
You're right now.

Speaker 3 (59:21):
If he's doing it in the Little league and he's
doing it in college, why wouldn't they do it in
the pros?

Speaker 6 (59:26):
Because they don't know better? And just listen to that.

Speaker 5 (59:28):
You talk about a guy who is leading the team
and targets receptions.

Speaker 6 (59:32):
And all the stuff.

Speaker 5 (59:33):
Right, he's the leader, but it's never enough for those
kind of parents, like no matter what it is, it
would be another.

Speaker 6 (59:39):
Complaint and you can't satisfy them.

Speaker 5 (59:42):
The best thing that you can do if you're a
coach is, man, if you have a kid like Roma
Doonsday who understands the team process and is willing to
tell his that, hey man, you got to back off,
like you're messing this up. That's the perfect case. The
worst case is the kid who actually believes in the
app you can see of the parent and has a
sense of entitlement because the parent.

Speaker 6 (01:00:04):
Always kind of bullies his way to get the results
that he wants.

Speaker 5 (01:00:08):
Kudos to Roma Doomsday, I would say thumbs down to
the dad because the dads.

Speaker 6 (01:00:13):
To support his kids and stay quiet and then.

Speaker 5 (01:00:17):
TBD to the bears because this ain't going nowhere. It'll
be quiet temporarily, but as soon as it goes awry,
all those things are gonna come back up again.

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
Now you're you're a parent and your kids are athletes?
Have you done anything similar to this? Just quick?

Speaker 6 (01:00:32):
No, not like that. Now.

Speaker 5 (01:00:34):
I've always tried to stay out the way, and probably
to a fault, stay out the way, let them try
and figure it out. Only insert myself when I just
need to know what's going on, But not like that.
I stay out of the game when it comes to
that in most parents. But I would think that if
you're going to a game advocate, but.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
If you're going through a game to watch your kids play,
that coach is somewhat intimidated knowing that you're there, They're
gonna they know who you are am I correct?

Speaker 5 (01:01:00):
I mean I would like to think that you have
enough confidence in your coaching that you're not worried about
my opinion. In my sway, I literally try and stay
out the way. I think parents should be there to
support their kids. You shift for your kids and the
team and leave all the other stuff alone alone. Now,
We're at a time where every parent, every dad in particular,

(01:01:22):
has an opinion on whatever sport it is, how the
team should be playing, how they should be using their kid.

Speaker 6 (01:01:27):
And all that, and that's going to be a part
of it.

Speaker 5 (01:01:29):
But I would tell you this in terms of coaching
kids and looking at that, all that does when they
hear the parents yelling, all it does is create.

Speaker 6 (01:01:37):
More anxiety for the kids.

Speaker 5 (01:01:39):
So your sons and daughters take on that energy that
you put out. So when you put all that energy
and vibe out there, it unsettles them. It makes them
feel like man, they're walking to the high wire, the
type rope. Yeah, it does something to them. So you're
really doing your kid a disservice when you are so
vocal and demonstras as some of these games, no doubt

(01:02:01):
about that.

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Football Sunday posted right after we get off the air. Now,
let's get into this Arizona the Arizona Cardinals. They're at
the Seahawks today and let's talk about what's happening in
that game today, because the Cardinals are three and five,
the Seahawks are six and two, and honestly, it doesn't
look good for either one of those teams. Well, the
Seahawks aren't too bad, but right now, let's see what's
happening here. Last week, I believe the Cardinals are once

(01:04:42):
again not going with Carla Murray with the foot spring.
Last week they upset the Cowboys and Jacoby Brissett was
the quarterback. He threw for something like two hundred and
sixty yards or two touchdowns plus a round four touchdowns.
So the question of the day is what does the
future look like for Carla Murray? Is you're going to
play again? I've got some stats here for you, Buck,
just to kind of things make things a little even.

(01:05:04):
The Cardinals have gone one and two with Jacoby Brissett
averaging like twenty five points a game and three hundred
and fifty plus the odds of game Caler Murray, they
were two and three, eighteen points a game, about two
hundred and ninety odds a game. Now, are they gonna
sign him? Re sign them?

Speaker 6 (01:05:19):
Trading?

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
What's the story with Kyler Murray.

Speaker 5 (01:05:24):
Look, I think what they're trying to do is wait
and see. They try to see if they can get
like a little spark where Jacoby Brissett in there. And
if Jacoby Brissette plays well, let's say, plays well for
the next two or three games, well, then you continue
to roll along with him and it becomes.

Speaker 6 (01:05:40):
A bigger story.

Speaker 5 (01:05:40):
However, if there's a bad game from Jacoby Brissett, then
you'll see Calabm Murray go in. I think what they're
trying to do is just find a way to win
games and they'll deal with the contract when they have
to deal with the contract, which is next offseason. But
I would say that this is the first step in
them starting the separation from calam Murray and he could
result in.

Speaker 6 (01:06:01):
The report in a divorce by the end of the season.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
Okay, from an outsider like myself looking at this, to me,
it looks like it's like a tryout. I mean, this
is the regular season. You're playing for the marbles right now,
and now you've got like tryouts. So in other words,
if Kyler Murray, Kyler Murray may play next week. If
Jacobe Prissett throws three picks today, that's what you're saying.

Speaker 5 (01:06:22):
Yes, go one week to another, Yeah, one week to another,
like they want to see, like a it was good,
Let's see if he can continue, and then if he continues,
then it becomes a bigger deal.

Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
Crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
What's the story with Kyler Murray? He's had some incidents
in Arizona. When he got there, he was like in
his own little room. I don't get it. I mean,
is he that good of a quarterback? Was he overrated?
Can he play? I mean we've seen quarterbacks like Danny
Dimes go from New York where they wanted to boot
him out of town and now he could be the

(01:06:56):
comeback player of the year for.

Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
The Indianapolis Colts.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
So certain times gonna be a new environment, new coaching staff,
new team, could get the best out of you.

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
But is that the case of Kylin Murray or he's
just not gonna get it done.

Speaker 6 (01:07:11):
I mean, that could be the case.

Speaker 5 (01:07:13):
I would say the thing about Kyler, having known him
personally since he was sixteen seventeen, there's some people that
would tell you in the state of Texas he was
the greatest high school player to ever put on the pads.

Speaker 6 (01:07:24):
And so when you have that build up you have.

Speaker 5 (01:07:26):
That reputation, Sometimes it's gonna be hard for you to
change your ways when you had a lot of success
doing it your way. Has success at Oklahoma because he
goes to Arizona, has success office a rookie year.

Speaker 6 (01:07:41):
So he's had a lot of success doing it his way.

Speaker 5 (01:07:43):
And then people will say he may come off hisself
as he may not necessarily be the right team guy
and team fit in those things, and that's what's really
problematic in a team sport. But it's gonna be hard
for him to change given the success that he's had.
Maybe going somewhere else with this being recognized as a
failure will help him change his ways.

Speaker 6 (01:08:02):
But I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:08:03):
Man, he's quiet, he's super confident. Sometimes when you're quiet
and confident or quiet and kacky, it can come off
being arrogant and aloof So I will say the biggest
thing is just working on his overall connectivity with the
team and then letting his leadership show not only through
his actions but through his words.

Speaker 6 (01:08:24):
But for that to work, the team.

Speaker 5 (01:08:26):
Has to feel like you really care about them, and
without being in the building, I don't know how that
care factor is received from players and coaches as relates
to Calamary and his feelings towards them.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
Okay, you says quiet. I think one of the characteristics
of a quarterback is being a leader and not being quiet.
So I think that's a detriment to him if he's quiet,
and you know him better than anybody, I would think,
except his coaches.

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
Right now.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
I mean, I think I'd rather get a guy who's
a leader, who's vocal and maybe does not have the
arm strength. There's another quarterback, but I'd rather have the
guy who's vocal and a leader.

Speaker 5 (01:09:04):
Well, I'm gonna say this because we've treated all these
quarterbacks like their John Wayne, like every quarterback is the
leader of the team.

Speaker 6 (01:09:11):
Every quarterback is the hero that comes in riding on
the white horse and comes saved today. That's not really hot.
It works.

Speaker 5 (01:09:18):
Players respect your talent and they respect your authenticity. If
you're not a guy that is vocal, then you shouldn't
be vocal. You have to lead and inspire with your
actions and those things. Whoever you are, that's who you
need to be.

Speaker 6 (01:09:32):
And so whether you're a.

Speaker 5 (01:09:33):
Vocal guy that loves to say the emotional pep talks,
whether you're a guy that is quiet, but you just
like to ball out and go about your business. There's
a path to victory for both guys, but you have
to be your authentic self. The big thing would be,
is Klin Murray being authentic? Do his teammates feel like
he's being authentic to them? Do they feel like he
has a sense of care about the team and game

(01:09:54):
and those things? Only Kyler knows how he's handled those
situations with the team. But what happen when you open
up a quarterback competition at this late stage of the
season and where calibery is in his career, It creates
more of the conversations about what is he missing or
what is he potentially lacking than oh, let's celebrate at

(01:10:14):
QB one, no.

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
Doubt about that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
And if I'm a fan, if I'm a season ticket
holder in Arizona and say, wait a minute, don't be
having tryouts on my time? I mean, this is the
regular season, during the season. This should have been done
in camp or whatever it may be.

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
But you know why now, especially on my time when
this is the regular season, It's just it's.

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
Not I mean, I don't see any other team doing that.
I really don't, not even the Cleveland Browns. They're not
doing that.

Speaker 6 (01:10:40):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
Obviously the Bengals that they got a backup because Joe
Burrow was hurt. And speaking of the backup, I mean
Joe Flacco's the backup. He's forty one years of age.
Would you, if you're the Cincinnati Bengals re signed Joe
Flacco as a backup for next year as well, becoming
forty two?

Speaker 3 (01:10:58):
Would you do that? Think you could be a good teach,
an advisor maybe for Joe Burrow.

Speaker 6 (01:11:03):
Joe Burden, he's an advisor.

Speaker 5 (01:11:05):
After accomplishing all these needs, someone to a Joe Flacco,
come tell me how to help me continue to be
great when you never I get that.

Speaker 6 (01:11:14):
Yeah, I would say that.

Speaker 5 (01:11:15):
Yes, if he wants to continue to play, I would
sign him right away.

Speaker 6 (01:11:18):
Uh. He's been good for them, He's been good for
their team. They push you down the field.

Speaker 5 (01:11:22):
His playing style suits what they want to do offenously
at one hundred percent, would uh say, continue to rock
with Joe Flacco as the backup?

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
Okay, I mentioned this coming into this segment, that it's
a disease affecting sports right now. If you think Kylin
Murray's got problems, what about the NT Double A investigations
that the betting violations continue, and the NC Double A
has banned another six men's basketball players at three different
universities for manipulating their performance. This is disgusting. We've seen

(01:11:53):
it in baseball. We've seen it now in the NBA
and now NC DOUBLEA basketball. We're talking gamble of the
ANTAA bands, three more schools. What is happening? Why is
it happening? And I think my answer to that question
would be, it's all around us. You could gamble so
easily on your phone, and if you're watching TV, every

(01:12:14):
other commercial on TV is a gambling commercial. And honestly,
I listen to sports talk radio. You know, eighty ninety
percent of the shows give you lines on games and
betting on games.

Speaker 3 (01:12:26):
Is it healthy?

Speaker 6 (01:12:26):
Is it good?

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
Or maybe that's what the public wants. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
We don't do that obviously. I respect the fact that
you work for an NFL team, so you can't do that.
And I'm sure you're not a gambler anyway, and I'm not.
I'm not a gambler. I'd rather talk about the game
itself rather than talking about you know who to put
my money on? Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe I'm an outcast.

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:12:49):
Look, I think it's hardy put the blame on anybody.
I would say this accessibility is everything. Gays are sossed
able to access. Betting now is different. It used to
be taboo like all the way you used to have
to Hey, I gotta find them booky, He find a booky.

Speaker 6 (01:13:05):
Who do I call? Tak? Who I call?

Speaker 3 (01:13:07):
Like?

Speaker 6 (01:13:07):
Never never Land like? It was very much like those
old mob movies.

Speaker 5 (01:13:11):
Now everything is right there on your phone, and it's
easy for the young people to blur the line between
daily fantasy, regular fantasy, and betting.

Speaker 6 (01:13:19):
It's all right there. Some of these guys are.

Speaker 5 (01:13:23):
Into deep and you can tell they cooked up schemes
to try and get themselves out of trouble. Other guys
maybe just super competitive or shissy when it comes to
trying to figure out how to make money on the side.

Speaker 6 (01:13:35):
Regardless, it's wrong and the.

Speaker 5 (01:13:36):
Compromise didn't take you to the game, which is why
the NCAA has to come down hard on these guys.

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
And it's amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
This comes on the heels of several weeks ago the
nc double A was considering permitting NCUBA athletes to wager
on pro games, not college games, but pro games. I mean,
I just don't think betting is healthy for an athlete
because it puts the game in a cloudy situation. I'm
watching a college basketball game. I see a guy miss
a layup and say, oh, is he undertake? He may

(01:14:05):
have missed a layup? Did he do it intentionally?

Speaker 8 (01:14:07):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
I mean this the game has to have some credibility, right,
that has to and I think with the betting situation
puts a certain cloud over the game.

Speaker 6 (01:14:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:14:18):
Look, it puts a cloud over the game, and it
does make everything subject to question.

Speaker 6 (01:14:22):
Hopefully we can figure it out. But look, I don't
like it.

Speaker 5 (01:14:24):
But when you made a deal with the devil, the
betting companies, this is part of what happens.

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
I'm with you there. I mean, what's gonna happen? I mean,
will they will they ban it?

Speaker 2 (01:14:34):
It's never gonna stop because they're receiving so much cash
from these betting institutions and betting companies. It's not gonna
It's not gonna happen. I mean, it can only get worse.
I don't know how coaches could control it, can they?
Where they just tell a coach the kid. They tell
the kids, just don't bet. How do you monitor it?

Speaker 3 (01:14:50):
You just can't write now, you can't.

Speaker 5 (01:14:52):
Just got to keep continue to advise them and tell them, hey, man,
make good decisions, protect the team. If you protect the team,
you make good decisions and you keep everyone and out
of trouble.

Speaker 3 (01:15:01):
There you go, all right, let's not get in trouble.
Right now, he's Bucky Brooks and Andy Furman. His time.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
It is time to pass the buck. It's time to
point the finger. The blame game is. Don't listen the
Fox Sports radio all right here we go to the
blame game. Right around the corner. He is Bucky Brooks,
I'm Andy Firman. This is Fox Football Sunday and Fox
Sports Ready and you know what. We're lying from the
Fox Bots radio studios. But top of the hour, which

(01:15:27):
is about eleven minutes from now, there'll be eight am
on the East coast.

Speaker 3 (01:15:30):
You have.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
Mike Harmon and Greg Cosel. So keep it right here
on Fox Sports radi. But right now it's time for
the blame game.

Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
You ruin me.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
It's all your fault. No, it's your fault. Is all
your fault.

Speaker 8 (01:15:49):
Maybe it's everyone's faults, the liar.

Speaker 1 (01:15:52):
That's why there's the blame game, the game. Let's figure
out to blame.

Speaker 3 (01:15:57):
Yes, Brandon Derte, it's all your fault, Brandy, what heck
of a job today. It's on you. Now, let's get
the playing game rolling.

Speaker 11 (01:16:03):
Well, I appreciate it, Andy. I'm going to start with this.

Speaker 12 (01:16:07):
I know I've asked a few development questions in terms
of the NFL draft. So Anthony Richardson goes third overall.
A few years ago, people are talking about Leonora's Sellers
going high this year despite doing nothing.

Speaker 11 (01:16:20):
Who do we blame here?

Speaker 12 (01:16:21):
Do we blame quarterback development in the NFL scouting? Trying
to draft guys ten games? I mean, when they've started
ten games in college, who is to blame with the
evaluation of the quarterback position?

Speaker 11 (01:16:35):
And how do they get Anthony Richardson so wrong school
with buckets?

Speaker 6 (01:16:41):
Yeah? Everyone and everyone. Everyone's to blame the draft knicks
that begin the conversation.

Speaker 5 (01:16:47):
The TV, Like, despite what people say, the TV has
influence on what people talk about in rooms, the meeting
rooms and trying to create a franchise quarterback because there
is such need to have someone at the impactful position,
and then the development is just different. High school, college
and pro games are all different. Pro coaches have to
be these college players where they're at, as some unwilling

(01:17:09):
to do so. So everyone is involved in terms of
the mis evaluation of these quarterbacks that we've seen them late.

Speaker 3 (01:17:17):
Okay, I'm gonna say this.

Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
I think the term development is the wrong word to use,
is the pool word, because there is no development.

Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
You get drafted and they're three right to the wolves.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
In years past, a quarterback who was drafted will stay
in the sidelines with the clipboard, learn the system, learn
the game, and then they put them in.

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
But there's so much pressure.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
Now and the money given to this guy, they put
them right in there to play. The only team that
kind of does it the right way. I think that
the Green Bay Packers. They draft quarterbacks, they put them
on the sideline for.

Speaker 3 (01:17:44):
A year or two.

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
They did that with Jordan Love, and look at Jordan
Love right now, he's developed bucket. I may be wrong
on that, but I think that's the way to do it.
The pressure to play these guys immediately lacks the developmental time.

Speaker 11 (01:17:56):
All righty.

Speaker 12 (01:17:57):
So the next one I wanted to ask is similar
Trevor law Lwrrence obviously has had up and down career
so far, but was heralded as the next Andrew Luck.

Speaker 11 (01:18:05):
Who's to blame for I wouldn't say.

Speaker 12 (01:18:08):
His lackluster quarterback play because he's been fine since you know,
Urban Meyer left, will take that that season out of
the books. But who's to blame for the lack of production,
this elite production that was expected of them?

Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
Well, you know what, you kind of hit it on
the head there because I think it was Urban Maya.
But how many offensive coordinators has he had? How many
systems has he worked on? I think it's crazy. Making
the jump from college to the NFL is a big
jump in itself, but the fact that they have so
many coordinators in so many seasons, he's had four of them,
So I think that's difficult.

Speaker 3 (01:18:39):
But you're right, I think he's coming into his own
this year.

Speaker 6 (01:18:44):
Ah yeah, I mean I think it's a little bit.

Speaker 5 (01:18:46):
Look, I feel like he was overhyped coming in and
I don't think he could ever live up to those expectations.
I would say that he's underperformed in some areas where
you expect a number one overall pick to be able
to make some of these things, and then it's about
just trying to find the right coach to bring out
the best at him. They've went through a few different
iterations of coaching staffs to try and get it out

(01:19:06):
of him. But now I think they've settled in on
a coach, Liam Cohen, who's going to do the best
to get him out of them, and then the results
are ultimately going to be on Trevor.

Speaker 6 (01:19:13):
He's grown in certain areas, but he still has a
long way to go to be the player that everyone
wants him to be.

Speaker 12 (01:19:18):
And lastly, six NCAA schools have been recently busted for
basketball gaming.

Speaker 11 (01:19:24):
What do who do you blame?

Speaker 6 (01:19:27):
I mean, this is everybody like it's too close, like
they made it too easy. It's on your phone, you
can get to it.

Speaker 5 (01:19:33):
Fantasy football, fantasy sports blurs the line when it comes
to gambling, so everyone is.

Speaker 6 (01:19:39):
To blame in this.

Speaker 5 (01:19:40):
I just think it's hard to get young people to
resist the temptation making a few little bucks on the sidehouse.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
You know, INITIALO is going to play nil, but that's
not true because there was gambling in college basketball back
in the fifties.

Speaker 3 (01:19:54):
I mean New York City basically.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
Basketball was killed back in the fifties, Long Island University,
the City College of New York, Manhattan College. They were
gone really because of gambling back then. If you look
at history and follow history, at least in college basketball circles,
almost every ten years there's a basketball gambling fraud or
episode in college basketball.

Speaker 3 (01:20:15):
But now it's bigger than ever. And obviously with social
media and the way you can gamble, it's quite easy.
So it's here to stay. It's here to stay. Yes,
anything else.

Speaker 11 (01:20:26):
I would think that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:27):
Really well, no, you know what, really well? We could.
We asked Brandon a question, what do you think of
us today? First time with us? You're a rookie. Incredible
spending time you like spending time with us?

Speaker 12 (01:20:40):
Yeah, it was awesome. It was awesome. Filling in for Brio.
I hope she's doing well, and you know she'll be
back next week.

Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
And oh she will.

Speaker 11 (01:20:47):
Yeah, she'll be back.

Speaker 3 (01:20:48):
Next week, So ruin my week? Huh, that's okay, it's okay.

Speaker 11 (01:20:52):
She's a Saints fan. She's gone through enough.

Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
Right now, there we go, Bucky, have a great week. Brandon,
thank you for your help. It's always okay. Mike Harmen
and Great Cosa the next right here,

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