Carmen Vitali and Tracy Sandler talk World Series, 2024 QB Class, and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
It is another Fox Football Saturday, boy is it. I'm
your host, Karmen Vitally and I have Tracy Sandler with
me today, Who's Dodgers have one yet another World Series.
So I feel like I don't even really have to
ask you how you are.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Trace.

Speaker 4 (00:21):
I am absolutely fantastic. What a series. It was just
fabulous one week ago today and I have been floating
ever since.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
I want to get the full rundown. I want to
get the full story. I want to know where you
were when they want it. I want to know your reaction.
But first we need to talk about what just happened
in Indiana Penn State, because good God, that catch was
to win the game.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
I mean, this is what happens. You let a team
like Penn.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
State, you know, they fire James Franklin, they're on the ropes,
they've got seemingly nothing to play for. Indiana's nine and
oh they're coming in. You're expecting a curb stopping. They
let Penn State hang around, and sure enough they they
take the lead and with like four minutes left, Indiana
gets stopped and they have to pump the ball back

(01:15):
to Penn State, and then Fernando Mendoza does banda Mendoza things,
an incredible throw from outside the end zone like almost
like a honestly, it was like a basketball shot.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
And this is the thing. When you let the team
hang around, inevitably they will do things like that and
win the game. We've seen it's a tail as old
as time. We see it in every sport. If you
can't finish it and shut it down, this is what
happens big. That's a big shake up in the college
football world today.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
This is it's just it's it's incredible what Indiana has
been able to do, what Kurtzignetti has been able to do.
Omar Cooper Junior is the one that made the catch
in the end zone to seal it and to for Indiana,
and it's just like it's one of those things where
you didn't even know if it was in bounds and
he gets the toe tap that would have been NFLAF.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
The tow taf is there. I'm sorry, Is there any
better thing in catching than the toe tap?

Speaker 1 (02:09):
No, it is. It is.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
It is a ballet move and it is so incredibly athletic.
The amount of control body control something like that takes
and at first you're like, did he even get in? Yes, okay,
he got in, all right? Did he get like he
got one foot down?

Speaker 1 (02:23):
But then when you look at the replay.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
I reposted it on my Twitter because it would have
been NFL caught like he got he tapped both toes
and it was It was just incredible. So Indiana kind
to know, I mean.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Are they winning?

Speaker 4 (02:37):
Are they gonna win the national championship?

Speaker 1 (02:39):
We need to start taking these guys here. I get it.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Like I said, you know, Penn State was coming in there,
had nothing to play for, and it was stressful. It
was not the handling of a team like that that
you would that you wanted out of Indiana, but again,
college football, it's you know, anything can happen. And at
the end of the day, Indiana pulled it out and
there are ten and know they are undefeated, and I
feel like every other win that Indiana has had this

(03:05):
year though, has been extremely convincing. So I'm like, Okay,
every good team ends up losing a game that they shouldn't.
They should should they avoided it, but they avoided it,
so they didn't even happen.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
End up losing it.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
So I've been taking Indiana seriously for the last few weeks,
but I understand that not as many people.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
So they bucked the tale as old as time. I
feel like it's a more It's honestly kind of a
not to get traumatic signature victory, because normally that is
what happens. The team hangs around and then you lose
in some dramatic, sad fashion. We should have finished off.
But when you show that you can keep going and
win these kind of games, these are the games that
say to me, you're for real. Indiana is a very

(03:45):
good football team. They have been for a couple of
years now, but they should be very deep in the conversation, God,
I love college football so much.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
True Signaty took over before last season mm hmm, both
of his He has now had ten win seasons in
both of his years as head coach coach of Indiana football.
Indiana had never had a ten win season before that.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
No, I don't think I never that never.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Never, never. They had never had a ten win season.
They're a basketball.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
Schools Oh, this brings up a great conversation that I've
had with many of my colleagues. Can you be both
a basketball and a football school, and I think and
Martin is pointing that Michigan is both a football and
a basketball school, but there are those that disagree you're
one or the other.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Well, the number two team in the country is Indiana,
and Indiana has historically had a very good basketball program.
That's what they're known for, the Hoosiers. There's a whole
movie about it.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
Correct, that's true.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
But if you're the number two.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Team in the country, second to only Ohio State, I
mean we have to start talking like you need like
they're going to make some noise in the playoffs and
they're going to be battle tested because of games like this,
So we love that for Indiana. I I have so
many friends growing up in the Midwest, being in Chicago.
I cannot stress you how many Indiana people we have,
how many Hoosiers we have here, and how many very

(04:59):
good friends of mine are Hoosiers. In fact, the next
show after ours, Buck and Fits Buck Rising in fact
himself a Hoosier. So it's just it's it's it's fun
for them. I'm happy for them. Yeah, it's just it's
I love college football for that reason. I wish we
could I wish we could watch all of it, and
we're going to get to that, believe me, because I've
got some grievances to air.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Oh it's a festivus.

Speaker 5 (05:22):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
I love agrievance.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
We love agrievance.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
I let anyway, I want to get back to the
World Series very briefly before we start talking football, because Tracy,
you are such a huge Dodgers fan.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
I am.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
You've been a season ticket holder what your entire life?

Speaker 4 (05:37):
Yep, long before me. My grandparents bought the tickets in
the stadium open, so predates me.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
You are an og Dodger fan. Correct, And I feel
like there's not a whole lot of people that can
say that. So what is what? Where were you when
this happened?

Speaker 6 (05:50):
So?

Speaker 4 (05:50):
I was in New York because I was covering the
Fourniters Giants game. So I was watching at a sports
bar with our good friend Keanu martin Kiana, and the
sixth inning, I take it a red eye, And before
I started, the red eye started to hit me and
I said, you know, I'm going to head back to
my hotel and watch the rest of the last few
games of last few innings from there. And I think

(06:11):
it actually worked out well, because when I did that,
things started to change, which obviously wasn't because of the players,
but because I changed those locations. Obviously, the only conclusion
to draw the thing is you can't tell me. That's
not why. You just can't tell me. It is why,
for sure, But I'm I'm willing to accept it. The
only thing that's sad about that is that when mcguil

(06:31):
Rojas hit the home run, there's no one there to
witness my reaction, which was.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Did you like putting your did you set your phone
up and like record it or anything?

Speaker 4 (06:42):
No, because I have a superstition about stuff like that.
So once Max Munsey hit the home run to put
them within one, I put my phone away. So in
a game like that, in case anybody hasn't noticed some
super superstitious and a game like that, when they're starting
to come back, I put my phone away because I
don't want to be getting everyone's messages and thoughts and
all that and getting in my head because it's obviously

(07:03):
my head that will make the difference. So I did
not record it, and I frankly did not expect it.
It was not a moment where I was like I
should probably record this because Miguel Rojas is going to
hit a game time I run here, that's true, and
I'm so happy he did. And it was I did
record myself after the game and posted it and I
was crying, which, you know, what should make fun of

(07:24):
me that it's okay.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
I was so happy.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
You know, this is kind of a weird kismet little moment.
When the Blackhawks won their won the Stanley Cup in
twenty thirteen, I was actually interning for the Dodgers and
they won. There was a seventeen second game against the
Boston Bruins and they won that Cup while I was
working a game, and they won it at a time

(07:47):
when the game had just ended, and so I had
to go downstairs at the clubhouse to like hand out
stats and.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Do you know, my postgame duties or whatever.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
And I got in the elevator and I had tears
streaming down my face. And the wonderful elevator tendant, who
I knew very well, she just looks at me.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
She's like, honey, what's wrong? And someone do something to you?
And I was like, no, the black Hawks just want
to Stanley Cup again.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
And I was just like tears, just and I had
like red lipstick on that day, I think because of
the black Hawks and like it was just all I
was such a mess in like trying to just like
hand out stats.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
It's amazing at Dodger Stadium, which.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
Is kind of fun, and sports people understand there's something.
There's something about it. And I think with baseball, stay
with hockey, the seasons are so long that it's just
I feel like baseball excitement is the best excitement and
baseball pain is the worst pain.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah, because it's like I just put in all of
that investment and effort in watching an entire season and
then it's like for.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
What and now I miss them. I go home and
I'm like, where where are my Dodgers?

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Believe me, pictures and catchers reporting is just right around
the corner.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
You are correct, right around the corner.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
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All right, since it is Fox Football Saturday, we need
to get to a little bit of football before we
have to take a break here, and I want to
talk very briefly, and this can just be I mean,
this is a this is a succinct answer for both
of us, Tracy, what is the best division in football

(09:32):
right now?

Speaker 4 (09:33):
I have two?

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Oh, okay, but not so succinct.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
No, it's I think it's succinct. I think it's the
I would say NFC West and NFC North.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Okay, Yeah, I honestly I kind of figured that you
would say the NFC West and then I would say
the NFC North, given those are the divisions that we've
covered with the closest on a division basis. But I
also think that that's true, Like I think it's and
I think I think the AFC West can sneak in
there a little bit. But it's interesting because going into
this season, you know kind of thought it was going
to be both of the North's. Yeah, great, you thought

(10:02):
it was AFC and NFC North. And you know, the
NFC North has rang true. It's separated by a game
and a half. Green Bay has a half game lead
over both Detroit and Chicago. I'm not I'm not going
to say I necessarily you know, called it. I talked
about how I talked about how otwisk I was about

(10:23):
the Bears, and I also talked about how this was
not going to be a division that it was going
to take fifteen wins to win again. And if it
was only going to take eleven or twelve wins to
win this division, then every single one of these teams
is capable of that. And that's kind of I think
what we're seeing, even Minnesota, you know, provided J. J.
McCarthy can pull it together and stay healthy. I mean,
the offensive line injuries are really bugging me either.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
It's problematic.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
So many of.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
These teams have so many injuries that make me just
like uneasy about it. Like Detroit is the same way.
They've injuries all along their defensive secondary again, and then
all along their offensive line. They lost Christian Mahogany for
a long yeariod of time, Brooke a bone, and both
like both tackles are dealing with injuries, and you know
that's the strength of that team. So how much do

(11:07):
I trust them? I don't know Packers are Jekyll and Hydes.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
It's they're so weird.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
They're so weird, they're so weird.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
So bizarre. Like one week I'm like, you know, Jordan
love really he does not get enough credit. And then
the next week I'm like, yeah, I don't. I don't
love this for Jordan. I did that on purpose, that pun,
by the way, And I just don't understand them. They
are very they're a very weird team. But I feel
like so many teams are weird, but right now it's
a weird.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
It's a weird year in general. And I mean there's
I think there's examples of that. Nancy West, Yeah, oh
for sure. What am I supposed to do with the Cardinals?

Speaker 4 (11:40):
Nobody knows, even the Cardinals. They they nobody really knows
what to do with them because every week it's it's
just a different it's a different story every week. But
I'm sorry, as Jacoby Brisset, the Cardinals savior, the words
I didn't think I was going to say this season,
or perhaps ever in my entire life. It's very interesting.

(12:01):
These next two months are obviously the months that and
we know that, like really team separate themselves but like,
are these Cardinals going to do the opposite of what
they've done in the past, which is be really good
the first two months and then just total downfall? Are
they going to do It's really hard to say.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Well, I guess it depends on Jacoby Presette.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
Yes, the Savior who Knew.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
And Armon Bride.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
I love Tarick Bride and Will Johnson because goblu.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah yeah, yeah, No.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
I mean, like it's like I like Gannon's scheme too,
like defensively, and I just I don't know. It's one
of those things where I'm like, there there are good
bones there, but like can they whatever? But then I
mean the Rams, I still think are that's their division.
And the Niners, I mean, you cover the team closer

(12:46):
than anybody does.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
I would say the Niners, I think that the amount
of injuries are going to start really taking their toll
in the next two months is my you know. I
think they've been able to kind of make it work,
but these it's it's not sustainable. You cannot lose Fred
Warner and both, so that would be enough, Like if

(13:08):
you had just lost Fred Werner and Nick Bosa, but
you also have and I think Max Jones is doing
an incredible job, so this is taking nothing away from him,
but they've been without their starting quarterback the vast majority
of the season. Ricky Piersall, with this knee injury, has
not played in weeks and it's apparently not healing how
they thought it was. It's not a setback, but at

(13:28):
this point, I believe this will be his sixth game
that he will not play, and we are also assuming
there won't be more injuries. And by the way, I
think these guys will play tomorrow, but you have de
Winters and Tatum Bethune Tata bothun who's stepping in for
Fred Warner. They're both questionable for tomorrow. Rice Hife Huff
is coming back, but then they alson Niners lost Mikel
Williams last year. I mean, it's just not sustainable. It's

(13:49):
not stopped, yeah, and it's non stop. So I just
feel like they they'll contend, they'll be competitive, they may
even sneak into the playoff, but it's just this is
not sustainable the next couple.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Of months, and especially when I mean to get to
get that division, you're gonna have to go past the
rank and Seattle is good to Seattle is good too,
Sam Darnold. We love to see it. We love to
see a reclamation project that that that sticks. And and
you know that defense under Mike McDonald's has gotten a lot,
Like you can tell they're more comfortable this year.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
And it's just it. It's a good overall team.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
Yeah it is. And then it means I have to say,
goblu I do.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Of course, I do want to give a little bit
of a shout out, I guess to the AFC.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
I want to AFC East sort of. I just want
to give a shout out basically.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
To the New England Patriots because they're making it. They're
making it tough on the Buffalo Bills right now, and
I love it. I think that when the Bills and
the Pats are good, that division, it's so much fun.
It's so much fun in that conference in general. And
I love Drake Drake. It's been my boy since he
came out. He was my like draft crush. I wanted

(14:55):
to see the Vikings execute that trade to go get him,
but New England very smartly was like, nah, no, he's
our guy, and he is he is everything they thought
he was going to be. All Right, we are going
to talk a little State of the Industry next, because,
like I said, I've got some grievances to air. It
may not be Festivus. We may be a month early
on this, but I need to air them, and I

(15:16):
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Speaker 1 (16:04):
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Speaker 2 (16:07):
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Speaker 1 (16:24):
How are you trace?

Speaker 4 (16:25):
I am good. I am having fun. I'm just bopping
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Speaker 2 (16:30):
Sorry, this is one of the head banging like this
is one of those head bangers where yes, like you
can't you can't help, but just kind of like nod
your head.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
Yeah, exactly, and I'm nodding away here.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
I love it too, and it's angry, which is kind
of what I am.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
Yes, the tracks for where we're going next.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
The track's worth where we're going next, because I want
to talk about.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Tracy.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
We have reverse engineered cable and made it worse.

Speaker 4 (16:59):
Which is, by the way, not an easy thing to do.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
No, because I mean, do you like I'm old enough
to remember how desperate I was with how expensive cable
was getting and how I didn't have it, or I like,
you know, especially if you lived in a certain apartment
complex and you could only get certain carriers, and like
you were stuck paying this money and this that the other.
I mean, it was a flawed system. Yes, I will
admit it was a flawed system. And then like you know,
Netflix moves from actual DVDs. Yes, they came in the

(17:23):
mailbox and they were actual DVDs people.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
And you had to return them the red box.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
The right you can go to the red box, which
was like the mobile Blockbusters, which kids these days know
nothing about.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
No, they do not.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
But like there was an early period where like, okay,
so Netflix becomes a streaming platform and now, oh my gosh,
there's so many of these cool things that are now
available to you at the touch of a button, like
you know, more than anybody's DVD library could ever hold.
And you're just like okay, and like you don't have
to DVR and like fill up your TVO with like
all of these things that you're recording off of cable

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and you know, having to shuffle that and manage the
storage space and this that the other. And so there
was like a little bit of a golden period in
the early aughts of the streaming where we were like, Okay,
this is great, Like it's a whole other program. I
don't have to deal with the library thing. It's just
there on demand when I want it. And now fast forward,
it's like that meme where it's the dominoes. They just
get bigger and bigger and bigger, and it starts with

(18:17):
something that's like very innocuous and then like it ends
up with something just like complete. Well, the big domino
now is that it seems like every other maybe every
six months, we deal with a major network blackout on
a major streaming service or a major TV service. So, like,

(18:39):
I personally have YouTube TV because this year Sunday Ticket
was available only exclusively.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
On YouTube TV.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
And I need to watch every game every week for
my job, so I need to be able to do that.
And if you're telling me YouTube TV is where I
need to go so that I can see every football
game that I need to see for work, then that
is what I will do.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Happy with YouTube TV. You know they have the quad box.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
Oh yeah, it's nice. It's very nice.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
It's nice set up, the user interface is good, this,
that the other, and then bam, Halloween comes scary time,
just in time. I mean, I happen to have Disney
Plus two so I could still watch hocus.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
Pocus, but thank goodness for that.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
A carriage dispute between Disney and YouTube TV that started
October thirty first Halloween has blocked over eight million subscribers
from Disney ESPN, ABC and all other channel channels under
that umbrella. And so now when I'm going to watch
my quad box on YouTube TV on college football Saturday,

(19:45):
like I did today, like I did last week, the
options are so incredibly depressing that I am.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Just I'm like, what are we doing? What are we doing?

Speaker 2 (19:57):
I pay for YouTube TV, I I pay for Disney
Plus and Hulu and all of those other like whatever.
I have like every single streaming service because you have
to now because now there's games that are like exclusively
on Peacock and exclusively on this one, exclusively on that one.
I now have yearn for the days of cable. I'm like, man,
I would pay whatever. At this point, just did not

(20:19):
have to deal with this. And I realized that when
people had cable, like there were cable disputes and too,
like I remember like Comcast had stuff with whoever and whatever, but.

Speaker 7 (20:28):
There were cable disputes, but they got solved pretty yes.

Speaker 4 (20:32):
On day eight of.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Like the second college football Saturday, the second like we
couldn't watch Monday night football last week?

Speaker 1 (20:41):
Oh what is happening? Like, like you.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
Didn't get to see Jacobe Brissette rise. That's very I did.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
I had to follow along the little thoughts on my computer,
and I'm just like, this is not worth it, first
of all for like you know, certain game whatever, but
like I am just I'm so tired of these companies
not being able to figure out. And then it's like
you have to like macafeated a whole thing, and like
I'm not the hugest fan, but like it's like one
of those things where like the worst person, you know,
it makes a great point fair, And he was just like,

(21:11):
I'm not going to a website. I'm not solving this
for you. I'm not going to input my information and
go to some website and tell you know, YouTube TV
to put ESPN. No, that's not my responsibility. That's y'all's responsibility.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
One thousand percent. It's one thousand percent. It is certainly
not the viewer's responsibility. And I agree with him on
that because I saw the things during the week of
make sure to go here and feel no, no, I'm
not doing that. I'm not that's that's that seems like
a you problem. You've now made it a me problem.
So I prefers not to use your platform.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Right, But I'm like, but you you've made me use
your platform because it's the only way that I can
get Sunday ticket and so you lure me in with that,
only to then block out Monday Night Football, which has
been an institution for general rations of sports fans at
this point.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
I mean that used to not even be on cable.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
That was always just like that was like on ABC
or whatever, like you could just turn on you didn't
even have to have cable to watch Monday night football.
That's why Monday Night Football became an institution. And now
you can't. You can have every streaming service in the world,
Like between my fiance and I, we have literally all
of them.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
Because you have to have all of them, which in
itself is an issue. Is an issue, maybe a conversation
for another time, but that in itself is an issue.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
It is, And I like, we now just pay incremental
like I don't even want to know what I pay
per month like with all of the services and stuff like,
because it's just you know, it's like ten bucks here,
twenty bucks here. YouTube TV is like I don't know,
seventy something dollars a month or eighty dollars a month,
Like I guarantee you it adds up to whatever I
was paying for cable.

Speaker 4 (22:48):
Oh I'm sure, how could it not. There's so many services.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
But even if we went back to cable, like again,
there's games that are like that are exclusively on Netflix. Now,
there's games that are exclusively on Peacock or like whatever.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
So it's like, I wouldn't even solve everything to just
go back to cable.

Speaker 4 (23:02):
No, it wouldn't really at this point, We're too far gone.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
We're too far gone.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
What would solve everything is if everybody could just kind
of figure it out so that the viewers and consumers
are not the ones who are suffering for this right
or the ones.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
That are like being told that they're the ones that
need to fix it. Stop stop y'all make billions.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
Just stop, figure it out.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Figure it out, all right. I just I wanted to
air those grievances because I've been no.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
And I don't think you're alone. A lot of people
feel that way, and I think you are correct. So
I'm glad you did air those grievances. And I feel
like our listeners are probably given like you, amen, let's go.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
I'm big mad, we should all be big mad, and
good lord, this better get I better not miss another
college football.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
We better not be talking about this next week.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
No, if we're talking about this next week, it's going
to be a lot worse than y'all are going to
have to, like, you know, put me on a delay.
Lord knows, I'm already not that great and the producers
have to be on their toes when it comes to me.
But someone who is on his toes are on always
kept on his toes by these scores, as Martin wise break.

Speaker 8 (24:05):
You know, Carmen, I know that you have NFL. Do
you have to have NFL plus right for the All
twenty two?

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Yeah? I do.

Speaker 8 (24:11):
So here's a tricky little work around for primetime games.
If you download the NFL Fantasy app right.

Speaker 5 (24:19):
And you want to.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Download another app.

Speaker 8 (24:21):
Listen, Martin, I understand your frustration. However, I'm trying to
be solution oriented in this moment for you, because I
know you already had.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
The Michigan man right there.

Speaker 10 (24:31):
Mich with that, I was like, I was like, I'm sorry,
you worry you this. You can watch the game. I
feel you. I get mine the scheme mask play.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
So I mean, that's what I wasn't gonna say that,
but that's what we That's what we did.

Speaker 8 (24:48):
Listen, there's a there's an active black market out there
and you're restricted.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Its maskway. I like that. That that was not I mean, yeah,
that was us on our laptops.

Speaker 5 (24:59):
So if you don't want to out of the NFL
fantasy route.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
But I just I shouldn't have to, Martin, Okay.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
That's my points.

Speaker 5 (25:04):
I fundamentally and wholeheartedly agree with you.

Speaker 8 (25:06):
My friend's all minutes left in the first half for
Texas and m and Missouri. The third ranked Aggie's lead
the Tigers seven to nothing. About twelve minutes left in
the first half for Oregon and Iowa. It is a
disastrous weather out there. Oregon just scored a touchdown, I
got a safety in the first quarter. It's nine to
nothing over the Hawkeye for the ninth rate Ducks. Nine

(25:27):
minutes left in the first half for Syracuse in Miami.
That game is still scoreless. Miami's had a few turnovers
on the offensive side of the ball, keeping them out
of the end zone, and with two minutes left in
the first quarter, sixteenth rank Auburn, I'm sorry, sixteen Frank,
Vanderbilt is trailing Auburn. Auburn's four and five in the
SEC four and five, one in five in the SEC
and has an interim head coach. Earlier today, we saw

(25:48):
Ohio State beat Perdue thirty four to ten. Second ranked
Indiana scored a late touchdown to survive against Penn State
twenty four to I'm Sorry twenty seven to twenty four.
Fifth rank Georgia the Mississippi State forty one to twenty one.
Eight thran Texas Tech smoked BYU twenty nine to seven.
Give me the seventh thrank Cougars their first loss. And
the little NFL notes the Packers.

Speaker 5 (26:07):
You guys talked about them being up and down.

Speaker 8 (26:09):
Well, some of their offensive stars may be down for
Monday Night. Matthew Golden, do Tavian Wick, save On Williams
wide receivers questionable for a Monday Night's game against the Eagles.

Speaker 5 (26:19):
Also questionable if Carmen will be able to watch it.

Speaker 4 (26:21):
Back to you guys, nice callback Martin, Well, Don Martin,
I appreciate that's we can FaceTime during the game if
you want, Carmen, I'll just put my phone in front
of the TV.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
No, like I said, I'll just I'll scheme ask it.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
I'll get it. The scheme ask way what I also appreciate, though,
is our next guest. This is such an incredible treat
to have her on Calmness for NFL dot Com, reporter
and co host of The Insiders on NFL Network. It
is the legend herself, Judy Batista.

Speaker 11 (26:51):
Are you guys?

Speaker 6 (26:52):
I haven't seen you guys in the ages.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
I know it's been a while. Actually, now that you mention.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
It, I mean, I guess your tri state area teams
are keeping you busy.

Speaker 6 (27:01):
Oh my gosh, Yeah, it's been quite a year. It's yeah,
it's been a year.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
Let's start there, because so I you know, I watched
them in the North very closely. I've been a tremendous
fan of Aaron Glenn for so so long. I know,
as I know you have been to you know, from
his playing days everything like that, and you know he
takes over the Jets and like he has just everything
on paper that you want a guy that can galvanize
an entire team, and it's just not clicking. How much

(27:30):
danger is he and Judy, and please don't break my heart.

Speaker 6 (27:33):
No, I don't think he's in any danger at all.
I mean I've talked to Woody Johnson about this, and
I don't since any wavering from Woody at all on
Aaron Glenn. I think, and I frankly think that the
moves this week, it's the trade deadline tell you that
Aaron and Darren Mujie the GM, you know, have a

(27:53):
pretty long rope here, and that Woody Johnson recognizes that
it's a rebuild. I mean, you certainly don't trade those
two play right without the owner signing off on it.
And I think there's a recognition that like they just
need they need to rebuild the roster, and obviously they
need to get a quarterback. They have to get this
right and you know, and they're going to need a

(28:14):
lot of flexibility to do that, and so they made
this moves. But by actually thought that.

Speaker 11 (28:18):
The decisions to trade those guys.

Speaker 6 (28:21):
Indicates that, you know, Aaron Glenn and Darren Moudey are
very safe and are going to be there for a while.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
Well that is good news for Aaron Glenn and for
the Jets, because as we know, bad teams stay bad
if they just keep firing people. So it definitely will
take time. So, Judy, we are into November, we are
a little past the halfway point of the season. Now,
I feel like, is where we find out who's for
real and who is going to drop off? Is there
a team that you're looking at that you feel like

(28:49):
maybe was a surprise from the beginning and that people
would think would drop off, But you're like, no, this
they're legit.

Speaker 11 (28:57):
Well two of them.

Speaker 6 (28:58):
First of all, I think New England is for real. Yeah,
and I will say this, I thought this was going
to be a rebuilding year for them. I have a
lot of confidence that Mike Rabel as a head.

Speaker 11 (29:08):
Coach, but still right, they were not good last year.

Speaker 6 (29:12):
They even think of for a few seasons and you
just think, oh, you know.

Speaker 11 (29:15):
First year was Rabel there, It's going to take.

Speaker 6 (29:17):
Some time to get what he wants going. I mean,
but Drake May has made such a huge leap, and.

Speaker 11 (29:22):
A lot of credit goes to obviously the offensive.

Speaker 6 (29:24):
Coaching staff there, and I mean Mike Rabel has turned
it around. Like you know, they did a lot of
work in free agency. I mean, they it's unbelievable how
good they are, and Drake May has just been fantastic.
I'm very curious to see how they do against the
Bucks because certainly that defense, you know, throws a lot
at quarterbacks. So I'm very interested to see how Drake
May handles that. But I think that Patriots are for real.

(29:46):
I mean, they are in contention for the number one
seed in the AFC bananas believable, So I definitely think
they're for real. I do think the Colts are for real,
and I am a that's the game from Berlin early
tomorrow and very interested to see how they come out after.
You know, I mean last week was a poor performance

(30:08):
and you know, sort of a setback. And I think
people who thought that this was sort of a mirage
with Daniel Jones, who look at that game where he
had all the turnovers and the Dealers defense really dominated them,
and say, uh, you know, Okay, now the real guy's
coming out.

Speaker 11 (30:22):
I don't think that's true.

Speaker 6 (30:23):
I think they're real, and I think anybody's got Jonathan
Taylor running the ball like he has been this season
is for real. So I think they are for real.
But but I'm will be watching closely to see how
they bounce back tomorrow.

Speaker 11 (30:36):
So those are two.

Speaker 6 (30:36):
Teams that I did not see being where they are
right now, but I think they're legit.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
Can we all agree that Bill's fans would just kind
of revolt. If the Patriots are one again once again,
I think everybody right.

Speaker 6 (30:51):
I mean, I mean I can tell you you know,
obviously I live here. I live here in New York,
and Jetsons are like, seriously, yes.

Speaker 9 (30:58):
Really.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
We thought there was an opening. There's no.

Speaker 6 (31:04):
So yeah, I think people are like, oh my gosh,
the Patriots again, you know, they're really I mean, Trick
May is just really really good.

Speaker 9 (31:13):
Well.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
I think it's interesting because in the AFC in general,
you know, you went into the season still thinking, all.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Right, Bill's Chiefs Bills Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
It's been like that, you know, at least in the
regular season where it's been between these two teams for
that conference, and to have another team in the Bill's
division like enter the chat here and the Bills are like,
come on, we haven't made it over the over the
team yet, or we haven't made it over the hump yet,
and now we have to deal with another one of
these guys. But I want to talk about the AFC

(31:39):
just kind of in general, because I think the NFC
is a little bit clear of a picture.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
And the AFC just isn't.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Who do you expect to kind of separate themselves down
down this stretch.

Speaker 6 (31:53):
Well, first of all, I have not written off the
Ravens yet because I just can't. I mean, they're in
such a hole, but there's there's so much healthier than
they were at the start of the season. Lamar obviously
is back and that's huge. They have a big game
against the Vikings, so that's an important one. But you know,

(32:14):
I have not written them off as I completely expect
them to go on a little run here and at
least make it interesting in the AFC North. You know,
I think at the end, I think we're going to
be looking at New England. I think that the teams
that I would be looking at are New England Baltimore.
I do think the Colts, and they certainly have the
advantage of playing in the division that's not the strongest.

(32:37):
You know, There's no way I'm writing off the Chiefs.
There's no way I would think that Patrick Mahomes has done.
You know, I think I think they'll be there at
the end. So those are the teams I think I'll
be there at. You know, in those last few weeks
in January, in the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
It's looking exciting. I am a big proponent of saying
that the Rams are going to win this, and I
know we talked.

Speaker 11 (33:01):
I don't think that's that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
I don't. I don't think it's crazy at all. And
I wanted your opinion on it because it just feels
like to me, I have all these teams that are competing,
and some one week they're great, one week they're not.
The RAMS feel despite a couple of things pretty consistent
do so it sounds like you do agree with me,
But I would like to know why not to sound

(33:24):
like you're like math.

Speaker 6 (33:25):
Teacher, because I well, I do think they're consistent. They're
really well constructed and well balanced and obviously well coached. Right, So,
and Matthew Stafford is having I feel like when people
are not talking about Matthew Harford, right, he could definitely
be the MVP.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
That whatever was in that cryo chamber.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
I want to I know we should all be in
that cryo chamber.

Speaker 6 (33:48):
I just go back. I just think back to all
during training games in preseason when he wasn't playing in
the back, and everybody's like, oh my gosh, you know,
no the fact, and now it's like, oh, or he
could be the league MVP. So I definitely think it's
possible that they make a run. You know, San Francisco
has done such an amazing job of holding it together,

(34:09):
and obviously Kyle is just a hell of a coach
and Matt Jones has done a great job. But you
just keeping every day. I keep thinking, all right, this
is the day that it starts to come apart, right.
They just can't possibly keep winning these games with so
many of their star players gone.

Speaker 11 (34:27):
They have done it so far.

Speaker 6 (34:28):
The Rams are a very tough test, though. I mean,
this is a tough one. I mean, it wasn't I
If the Niners win this game, then I don't know
how far the Niners can go. But I you know,
I definitely think the Rams are a very serious contender
in the NFC, because in the NFC, the other teams
I look at like I was. I covered the Eagles

(34:51):
Giants game right before the Eagles bye week, and that
was the best the Eagles have looked all season. They
finally got the running game going, the defense, ten Dan Jackson, dart,
they didn't let it going. And everybody afterwards said, like, well,
but it was only the Giants. It's like, okay, but
that was the same Giants team that two weeks earlier, Yes,
had kicked their teeth in, so they clearly had addressed
their issues. Now they're getting healthier. AJ Brown is back

(35:13):
sake one, they're both off the injury report, So I
think the Eagles are probably going to now make a
run here. And this is what I mean, this is
what championship caliber teams do, right, They sort of win
games early in the season while they figure out what
they are good at and what they're not good at,
and maybe they scuffle a little bit, but then they
are building towards you know, late November and December and

(35:35):
them going into January, they're playing their best football. And
that sort of feels like what we're watching.

Speaker 11 (35:41):
With the Eagles.

Speaker 6 (35:41):
I think the Rams have been consistent all along, so
if they're into cheap and again, I mean I you know,
I just look at the Niners and think, like, how
much longer can they possibly keep doing this with like
everybody heard.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Yeah, we talked about that earlier, just like it's just
not a sustainable like model right now into it.

Speaker 6 (36:01):
End of the season, and you're right, like everybody in
the NFC, the NFC North has so many good teams,
but they're kind of up and down, right right that
first game against the Packers, You're like, Wow, the Packers
are going to win the Super Bowl this year, and
they were so good, and then they've been kind of
up and down.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
Oh I call them Jackal and Hyde because we just
don't know anything that's happening.

Speaker 11 (36:18):
In the lily in the same thing.

Speaker 6 (36:20):
So, I mean, any of those teams could get it
all together and go, it's just I need to see
them pull it together.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Yes, yeah, well, Judy, thank you so much for joining
us today.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
That was so much.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
It was so gracius to for you to grace us
with your presence. So we hopefully I will get to
see you soon at one of these games on the
road and have a great season. If we don't see you,
thank you, Thank you. All Right, We've got the Dos
the Dotes coming up after this. You're listening to Fox
Football Saturday. Welcome back in to Fox Football Saturday. I'm
your host, Carmen Vitally. I have Tracy Sandler with me.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Hello day.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
We just talked to Judy Battista, who I love. I
usually get to see her like at least once a season.
I haven't seen her yet this year.

Speaker 4 (36:59):
I know, but I thought I was gonna have a
chance last week at the Giants game, but yeah, it
was not to be.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Well, she's all over the place, She's all over the
the Eastern seaboard. I feel like I usually end up
seeing her in Detroit and I don't have many trips
which is Detroit planned so far. So anyway, love her,
could talk to her forever. And I mean it's true,
like there's there's so many teams that we just don't know.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
What to do with still and weird season.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Yeah, like some teams look invincible one week and then
the next uh you know. I think I was on
the show with you where I talked about why aren't
we giving the Buck the Tampa Buccaneers more credit? And
then you know, the next week they went out and
they lost. So I don't know, And like Detroit Scott
the same thing. Like I just any any team that
I end up being like super confident in. You know,

(37:48):
when the Packers traded for Mike Parsons, I was like, Okay,
this is it. They're Super Bowl contenders, and they have
been anything but consistent, despite the fact that their pass
rush is so much better than I was last year.
I don't know, it's it's but I think it's fun.
I like guessing. I understand that some people don't, especially
people that are into gambling. Like the less guesswork the
better in that case. But for me, someone who has

(38:10):
to talk about it, I never wonder or have trouble
finding things to talk about.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
Yeah, I think Monday night football, which I hope you're
able to watch, is going to tell us a lot
the Packer's Eagles game.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
All right, well, it's time for our recurring segment, the
dues and the don'ts.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Highlighting the dudes.

Speaker 7 (38:28):
I love that putting a spotlight.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
On the don't the subject brings me no joy.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
Don't do that, that's insane.

Speaker 7 (38:34):
It's time for the dues and the don'ts in sports.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Jase, I'm going to have you go first today. All right, well,
let's get your ado or a don't from you.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
I have a do I have a do be Sauce Gardner.
Earlier this week, he was traded and father videoed him
telling his kids, and his younger son was hysterically crying.
It was so sweet and sad and also like get
used to being a Jets fan kid like so so sad,
and it went pretty viral and Sauce Gardener sent him,

(39:05):
saw him and his brother signed Colt jerseys. I believe
he told him he was in a better place so
not to be upset about it. And I just thought that.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
Would excited itself.

Speaker 4 (39:15):
Well that's what he said he was, but I ag
he is. You'd much rather be a cult right now
than a jet absolutely, So I just thought that was
really sweet that he got wind of it, he sent
the jerseys, And I am hoping that that young man
is now a Colt span because I feel like it
would just be a happier existence generally for him.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
Yeah, it will be, It will be, and in general
I would be happy to be Sauce Gardener right now.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
I usually this is a really fun segment, but there
is something that I want to kind of bring some
attention to, uh And I want you what do know
that you're never alone. Marshaw Neeland of the Dallas Cowboys
tragically took his own life this week at only twenty
four years old, A guy that had scored a touchdown
just a few days prior, looked like everything was okay.
I just want to use this opportunity to remind everyone

(40:01):
that if you or someone you know who is struggling.
There are resources, there are people who want to help.
Nine to eight eight is the Suicide and Crisis Helpline.
It's available twenty four to seven for anyone that needs it,
and I strongly encourage you to use those resources to
reach out to whoever, reach out to, friends, family, Everybody
wants to hear nobody doesn't. So yeah, I wanted to

(40:26):
use this opportunity. Nine to eight Suicide and Crisis Helpline
available twenty four seven. We'll be back after this Fox
Football Saturday. Welcome back into Fox Football Saturday. I am
your host, Carmen Vitally. I have Tracy Sandler with me. Hello,
fresh off about a food poisoning Tracy, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 4 (40:47):
You know it's okay, I made it, but I have
to say last night there was a point where I thought,
am I going to be able to.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
Do the show? We're questionable? I was trying, you know what.

Speaker 4 (40:56):
I was questionable, but I was upgrade to available and act.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
Yes, active, Yes, I wish we should put out the
inactives prior to each show. But wait, way to be
a gamer trace power through it.

Speaker 4 (41:14):
Yeah, you know, you got to do what you gotta do.
And I definitely do feel better. So I'm glad to
thank you for thank you for acknowledging, but active, ready
to go and happy to contribute to the team. I
just want to do what I can do to help
everyone around.

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(41:52):
bet MGM, every Saturday and Sunday morning, right here on
Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. All right, so
let's get into it. Let's get into some of the
game statuses and potential inactives across the league. I want
to talk about a couple different games for our Week
ten preview segment, starting of course, with teams that we've

(42:14):
already talked quite a bit about. Rams and Niners are playing.

Speaker 4 (42:17):
It's a big game.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
It really is, though.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
It really is because we talked to Judy Batista, and
we talked amongst ourselves about how sustainable is this really?
When the San Francisco forty nine ers seem to have
this ever revolving door of injuries and you know, as
the season wears on and guys get less healthy regardless,
how is that going to impact them? And can they
keep winning? Can they keep contending for this division which

(42:42):
seems to be the Rams Division.

Speaker 4 (42:45):
And it's interesting because the Niners already beat the Rams
once in a surprise you Thursday Night football with them
dealing with injuries. Then there's no Fred Warner this time though,
And I think this is this is both a very
different Niners team and a very different Rams team. I
think that Rams team felt like on the short week
with the Niners injuries, maybe caught off guard. To be

(43:05):
honest with you, this is not that team and the Rams.
And if the Rams want to win the division, they
cannot lose twice to San Francisco. So this game becomes
huge for everybody. I Mean, someone asked me the other
day the Niners lose, is this the beginning of the
end of the season. No, I don't think that. But
I think if the Rams lose, it might be the
beginning of the end of the division for them. And

(43:26):
I'm not saying that necessarily the San Francisco would win it,
but I think Seattle could could become a contender. But
this is this is a huge game. Mac Jones will
be starting again. They have not decided whether or not
rick as I Brock Purty will be active. Ricky Piersoll
is out for the game. They have d Winters and
Tatum Bethune both questionable. They lost Mikel Williams last week.

(43:50):
Bryce Huff is back, but this is not going to
be an easy one. Puka Nakua will be available for
the Rams. I mean, the injury reports alone could take
up an entire show. Will be available for the Rams,
and so it'll be interesting to see how this one goes.
You Conventional wisdom says to me, the Rams are going
to win this game. But when these two teams play

(44:12):
each other, these division games, these two coaches, that's to
me our biggest X factor of this game or these
two coaches.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
We can go into stats and different player matchups all
we want, but I do think that the matchup that
matters the most year is Sean McVay and Kyle Shanahan Again,
I mean this is it's been so fun to watch
these two Like the fact that these two are in
the same division. I think it's so fun because we
get to see them play each other twice a year

(44:40):
and it is just a total like back and forth
because these guys know each other so incredibly well. They
know each other's tendencies, they know the way each other's
brains work. Because I mean, both of these coaches are
very good at evolving for the personnel that they have available,
evolving their schemes year to year. I think that Sean
McVay especially is kind of credited in a lot of

(45:04):
ways for pushing offense forward, like offensive scheme forward in
this league and continuing to evolve it, which trickles down
or along to everybody else in the league as well,
especially when you consider that this coaching tree is the
current biggest coaching tree for active coaches in the league.
Guys that have all worked together or more succinctly, all

(45:28):
the guys that were on that the.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
Washington team, the Washington football team.

Speaker 4 (45:31):
Yes, the Commanders, Commanders, the Commander, variety of names, the command.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
Well, it was something else when they were on it
and that we're not going to say. And then it
was the Washington and then all of them. But that
being said, I mean, just seeing the chess match between
these two guys is always really fun and it can
despite the fact that, yes, on paper, this looks like
the Rams game to win, there's there's there's always a
move and a counter move when it comes to these guys.

Speaker 4 (45:57):
And really, I think the X factor, and it seems
like an obvious X factor, but the X factor for
San Francisco is going to be Christian McCaffrey in the
run game and if they can, if they can really
get that going. They used Brian Robinson some last week
and I think was really helpful for them, But it
it's going to come down to Christian because he has
been just tremendous this season. He's been available at all

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times he's and it took a while for the run
game to really get going in a couple of weeks ago.
It did last week it looked good again and that's
going to be the thing. If the forty nine ers
can get Christian McCaffrey really going here, then they have
a real chance to win this game. It's just it's
very tough because you have a very good young Rams defense,
you have Matthew Stafford. As we've discussed whoknakuas So it's

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going to be a tough one. But like I said before,
and as you said, it's it's gonna come down to
Kashianahan versus Sean McVay, I really do it. It might
be a little more x's and o's than Jimmy and Joe's.
There you go, You're welcome for that.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
That being said, I mean, can the production of Christian McCaffrey,
even at his best, contend with the production of Matthew
Stafford at his best? I mean, this is a guy
that probably not all qualified passers in touchdowns this year
with twenty one, he has just two interceptions. His passer
rating right now on the season is one thirteen point two.
He's top ten in every major passing metric EPA per

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drop back, like even all the advanced stuff. That's so
fun for me to kind of like dig through. But
I mean we said it to Judy, I'm like, whatever
was in that cryo chamber, I need it because Matthew
Stafford walked out of there and he looked like the
Matthew Stafford from five years ago, so I want I
like the production, especially with Pucunaku available and Matthew Stafford,

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and the line playing as well as they are, the
offensive line playing as well as they are, and again
that defense that is so young but so effective. I mean,
the Rams just seem like I don't know if we're
talking enough about them to be quite honest, I don't
know too, who's going to come.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
Out of the NMC.

Speaker 4 (48:00):
I don't know that we are and I think it's
because maybe we're so used to them being consistent. But
and when you talk about Matthew Stafford, he is going
up against a young defense. At at times on the Forrance
has looked great, but a lot of the reasons they
looked great early was because they had the veterans around
them to help them. Not take anything away from their performances,
but you had these guys around them that would help
them look great. And it's just it's going to be

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a tough call. And it's also which forty nine Ers
defense shows up. The one against the Falcons tremendous, the
next week against the Texans a disaster, last week against
the Giants better, but they were also playing the Giants
and that is one bad football team. And so this
is going to be a tough, tough test, but an
important win for both teams because I really believe the

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Rams win tomorrow and this division is there's no questionna,
no questions asked.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
All Right, Well, another team that people aren't talking enough
about is still the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
I don't know are they are.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
Playing for the first time, say it's the return of
Tom Brady. They're playing the Patriots. I was actually there
at Toilette Stadium for that game. I was on the sideline.
I actually walked with Brady out of the tunnel like
with my little you know, doing some social media for
the team I was working for the Buccaneers.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
Time love it.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
It's the single greatest video I've ever captured. Even though
the NFL films guys were like muscling their way and
I like literally but they almost knocked me over.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
But it was an incredible game. It was raining.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
It was like when when Brady came out for warm ups,
the entire crowd cheered. It was an incredible atmosphere. And
then when he came out in the Bucks uniform and like,
you know, for the game and got announced he got booed,
and which I'm like, I wouldn't. You wouldn't want it
any other way. And so now the Bucks and the

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Patriots are taken, are going against each other, and obviously
no Tom Brady. Tom Brady refused to pick sides too.
But I think this matchup is particularly interesting because we've
talked so much and I do love like I love
Drake May. I loved Drake May so incredibly much. Something
Drake May has been elite at this season so far,
which is insane to say in a guy that just

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now is getting to have started a full season of
game worth of games because he came in, you know,
late last season or later last season in the middle
of the season.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
He's really good about against the blitz. He's really good seventy.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
Four point one percent of his past attempts against late
down blitzes. That's the third highest mark among quarterbacks that like.
That is his completion rate against late down blitzes, not
even just regular blitzes.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
Like third down. Need to have it this that the
other Drake May is.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
Completing nearly three quarters of those. And something that the
Bucks do a.

Speaker 3 (50:41):
Lot is blitz is blitz.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Is especially in those third down situations, and they blitz
the third highest rate on third and four thousands, in
fact forty two point three percent, and they're tied for
the second most pressures when doing so.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
So like they are extremely.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
Effective in those late downs by blitzing. So of course
they're going to try to do it. But like that
matchup in particular is going to be so fun because
something Todd Bowles does so incredibly well is not only blitz,
but he makes it look different every time. You never
know who is actually coming all of the simulated pressures.

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Sometimes he does it blitz when you think he's gonna
he'll put seven guys on the line and then drop
most of them and it's ends up being.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Like a three man rush. You're just like what, what, how? How?
And then and they'll they'll be effective in that way.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
They have the horses to do it in Tampa, provided
they can stay healthy. But I just that's one of
those things where that's what's gonna win the game.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
It's whoever does better.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
If Drake May continues this pace of being extremely good
against the blitz despite how young he is, like the
Bucks are gonna be in trouble because if you don't
get home on those things. That leaves you very vulnerable
in the secondary. And Drake Man can just go over top.
We know he is a cannon of an arm to
do that. But if you do get to him, and
you do rattle him, and you take advantage of his

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youth a little bit, then you know that you can
you can potentially stop this Patriots offense. But it's going
to be a really it's a really really good matchup.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
It is.

Speaker 4 (52:10):
It's a fantastic matchup and seven touchdowns, zero picks against
the Blitz. So something's going to have to give on
one side. Whether it's Drake Bay or or the Bucks.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
Going to get burned real bad, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
It's the another interesting matchup. I think it's going to
be the tight ends versus the Bucks linebackers because you've
Hunter Henry and Austin Hooper who could make a real
difference in this game. And so using multi tight end
sets is an area where the Bucks defense struggles. I
didn't want to use that word because I know that

(52:43):
you love the Bucks, but it is.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
But I'm also very self aware of But.

Speaker 4 (52:47):
That's just if there's a weakness and that defense is
very very good if there's a weakness that is it
so be interesting to see how the Patriots, you know.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
Use I don't know how Van David gets up in
the morning, does it just like like he he The
way that he is, like he is surpassing any and
all expectations at the big age of thirty five years
old is just incredible.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
He's playing at such an amazing level.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
But yeah, I mean that that's a place where you're
potentially vulnerable because tight ends present mismatches regardless either way.

Speaker 4 (53:18):
I have to say, I think it's really fun if
you think about a year ago or two years ago
that we'd be talking about the Patriots box as a
game of the week. I think it's kind of with
Baker Mayfield and Drake May I think I think that's
pretty cool. There's a lot about the league in a
good way.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
It does, it doesn't, and really it's any given Sunday,
all right, we are going because I'm not done talking
about Drake may Apparently we're gonna revisit the twenty twenty
four quarterback.

Speaker 4 (53:41):
Oh my favorite segment's coming.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
Up coming up after this. You're listening to Fox Football Saturday.
I think our I think our producers picked up on
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We went through a whole thing, This YouTube, TV, ESPN, Disney,
ABC thing is really I don't appreciate turning on my

(54:04):
quadbox and having like the most limited and depressing, depressing options.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
It's fair, it's it's not fun.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
It's not fun. It's now cost me to college football Saturdays.
It costs me Monday night football, and.

Speaker 4 (54:14):
I really don't want it to cost you this Monday
night football is not a good game.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
And I'm not downloading another app Martin, I'm not doing it.
They're also just not going to like I'm not gonna
jump through hoops. I already jump through hoops by all
the subscriptions I pay for.

Speaker 4 (54:30):
That's fair. Yeah, it's a lot. It's unacceptable.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
Really.

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(54:58):
I want to talk about something that I think is
gonna be a little fun because I'm not done talking
about Drake May.

Speaker 4 (55:04):
You should never be done.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
I should never be done talking about Drake May.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
You know, like, there's a satisfaction for me because I
called it, and I called it for a very unscientific
reason that he was gonna be really good. And it's
because actually a friend of mine was dating Drake's older brother,
and his older brother is it was one of the
other d one athletes in the May family that are
older than Drake. Drake is the youngest. And as someone

(55:29):
who has I have nannied like three boys, families of
three boys, multiple families actually of three boys, and the
youngest one is always the best one at everything because
they have tried to keep up with their older brothers.
They often got beat up by their older brothers and
it toughened them up. I used to tell the two
older ones all the time, like you're just making him

(55:51):
more tough and whatever than you, and he's just gonna
grow up. To be tougher and faster and stronger than you,
and most of the time that's what happens. It's my
theory on like younger siblings is that they spend their
entire lives trying to keep up with their older siblings,
so they developed things quicker and they just kind of
get better at things. And I was like, Drake May
is the youngest of an entire family of D one athletes.

(56:13):
This kid's going to be amazing, and so that is
I called that.

Speaker 4 (56:16):
I actually would say that that's somewhat scientific, right, Like, I.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Mean, I'm sure there's some psychology behind that that I'm
com vast unqualified.

Speaker 4 (56:25):
I feel like you have evidence, some stats, and I
feel that that's somewhat scientific, all.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Right, all right, But nonetheless, Drake was part of Drake
May was part of a what was considered to be
a very stacked twenty twenty four quarterback class in which
six quarterbacks went in the top twelve Caleb Williams, Jadeen Daniels,
Drake May, Michael Pennix.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
JJ McCarthy, and Bo Nix.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
And now that we are into these guys second seasons,
what have we learned Tracy that I want to know,
Like Kayleb Williams obviously went first overall Astros season in
Chicago last year, historically bad in a lot of some
of the advanced metrics, while also having the fifth best
season of any Bear's quarterback ever, which is insane. Took

(57:12):
sixty eight sacks, just an insane year. Like that, it's
kind of a wash. Meanwhile, Jane and Daniels popping off
in Washington has a phenomenal rookie season.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
But then now.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
You look at both of those guys in particular, and
the narratives have kind of switched, and I think, like
it's a cautionary tale with as much as I love
Jane Daniels, but like to crown a guy before we
have a larger body of work to you know, back
that all up and then to all with Caleb Williams,
it's like, well, situation matters, and he's now in a

(57:46):
vastly better situation and he looks vastly better.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
Drake may Is just apparently it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
I was so afraid he was gonna get killed when
they brought him in midway through last season because of
how bad that offensive line was in New England. Turns
out it seems like it was the best thing could
have ever.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
Happened for him.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
So I want to know your take on where you
see some of these guys now in their second season,
and who do you think is at the top.

Speaker 4 (58:11):
Well, I think the one thing we learned is that
being a young quarterback in the NFL is hard and
you can't judge someone based on the season entirely good
or bad. And I still think Jayden Daniels is going
to be a really good quarterback in this league, but
things are different. Circumstances are different this year than they
were last year. He's been hurt a bunch, he's hurt now.
So I think that's the one thing is that this

(58:32):
idea I know we've talked about before that you throw
a guy out there and if he's not your star
day one, well then it's over, because that's clearly not
the case. And I think Caleb Williams, of course, is
a great example of that. We see how much better
he is doing under Ben Johnson, how much better the
Bears are doing under Ben Johnson. Drake may you know
we've discussed him at large. JJ McCarthy my favorite subject ever.

(58:55):
He's an interesting one because he's in He is technically
in his second season, but he's played three games in
the NFL and he's won two out of three of them,
and we see the flashes, but I think we saw
last week he had some really good throws. He had
some bad throws, but he won, and that is one
thing about him is he wins. But it'll be kind
of interesting to see how this continues throughout the season.

(59:18):
I think we all know I am big into Jake
JJ McCarthy and think that he is going to just
be a tremendous winning quarterback. But he's the smallest sample
size that we have so far. So this brings me
to Michael Pennix and bow Nicks, both very interesting situations.
I think Michael Pennix has been very up and down.

(59:39):
Bow Knicks, I think there's starting to be some concern
in Denver because his decision making is looking not that great.
He doesn't seem to be improving and progressive progressing. They
did win the other night ten to seven over the Raiders.
Raiders not great, but they did win ten to seven
over the Raiders. So those are the two, frankly, that

(01:00:01):
I have the least confidence in going forward.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
Yeah, I mean I think that there is a conversation
to be had about Bonix and how well what Sean
Payton is asking him to do actually marries with his.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
Skill set, right. I think that they, like you need
to talk about that. Ah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
JJ McCarthy is, well, I'm constantly at war with myself
because I do believe in JJ McCarthy two, But I
also do not acknowledge wins as a quarterback stat. That's
just something fundamentally in the way that I view football
that I can't get on board with. So, yes, he's
a winner, but like there's so much like you're gonna
if you're gonna call football the ultimate team game, then
one player cannot get credit for an entire win or

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for an entire loss.

Speaker 4 (01:00:47):
Oh, that was my question because I think quarterback there
are a lot of people, not you, but there are
people who don't think it's a quarterback stat, but but
do blame the quarterback. I don't think it's a quarterback stat,
but I think there is something about out him that
helps lead a team.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Is it? Is it his alter ego? Nine?

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
It might be I need to get your take on
on on nine.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
Tracy.

Speaker 4 (01:01:11):
I love JJ McCarthy, but like I'm into it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
It's so J. L.

Speaker 4 (01:01:15):
Mccartny because it's just so it's like kind of who
he was in college.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
It's just so him.

Speaker 5 (01:01:20):
He's like, I mean, you got it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:22):
This is the other thing with J. J. McCarthy. I thinks,
soon as you forget, he was molded by Jim Harbaugh.
Like from the time he was in high school.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
He was born in the darkness, molded for the time
he was in high school.

Speaker 4 (01:01:33):
He and Jim Harbaugh started a really good friendship mentorship relationship.
When JJ went to Florida and his family wasn't around
and he was always texting with Jim Harbaugh. Jim Harbaugh
has molded this kid, and he could not be more
Jim Harvaugh.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
You know what, It's a good point because that is
that is that seemed that fits, you know, with the
context of like how close him and Jim Harbor are
like having an alter ego name Now that is that
screams Jim Harbaugh on the war Paint.

Speaker 4 (01:02:04):
I mean, honestly, JJ McCarthy's just the best in the
whole world.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
Like he's like he's a tremendous locker room guy, Like
you can tell that, Like he just he like he has.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
He has the riz, as the kids say.

Speaker 4 (01:02:16):
He does have the RIZ, and I do think maybe
winnings out of quarterbacks at But like I said, I
think there is something about him too that makes everybody
else on the field want to be their best, and
that that is sometimes you know, playing for someone and
really I don't know that. I think that that's a leader, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
A leaderer and you need and you need to be
one as as as a quarterback. So I get that.
I'm written for him. Like I said, I I'm written
for him. I love the Vikings, I love their coaching staff,
I love their roster.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
I want them to.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
Do well and they need JJ McCarthy to do well
to do that, so I want.

Speaker 4 (01:02:48):
I'm wearing my school sweat, the Skull Sister sweatshirt today.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
You never experience school in person. You need to school
and an incredible thing.

Speaker 4 (01:02:57):
Absolutely, I know they.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
They stole it from the Iceland national team soccer team,
but I don't like in a stadium, in a pack
stadium with a snow falling down pregame because there's fake snow.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
It's the most incredible thing.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
And another Michigan man that we need to get to
is actually Martin Weiss with an update.

Speaker 5 (01:03:19):
College football scores.

Speaker 8 (01:03:20):
The most surprising one right now Auburn with a twenty
to ten lead over sixteenth three Vanderbilt at the half.
Auburn fired their coach last week. You freeze. They're on interium.
They're four and five on the year, one in five
in the SEC. Vanderbilts already lost two games in conference,
still sixteen to three team with playoff hopes.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
The interim coach first, the interim coach like, I don't
know if you want to call it a curse.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
I like, I don't know, like interim coach boosts. I
wish it.

Speaker 5 (01:03:51):
I want something that has another eye there.

Speaker 8 (01:03:53):
I want it to be like the interim coach ignition
or something like I don't know what it is, but
I don't know what it is edition.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
I don't know if we're allowed to sing that song anywork.

Speaker 4 (01:04:04):
Guys are probably not. But I still like the internom
coaching nition.

Speaker 8 (01:04:07):
And there's something to like when the head guy gets fired,
everybody's like, wait a minute, everybody could get fired here.

Speaker 5 (01:04:13):
Let's go ahead and like try our bets.

Speaker 8 (01:04:15):
I don't know what it is, but you know, we'll
see if Auburn's able to Dixon was knock vandabuil out
the playoffs in the next half at half, Vanderbilt our Texas,
A and M and Missouri. The third ranked Aggies have
a fourteen.

Speaker 5 (01:04:27):
And nothing lead over the twenty second ranked Tigers.

Speaker 8 (01:04:29):
Ninth Ranke Oregon has a twelve to seven lead over Iowa.
That's game is getting ready to take the first snap
of the third quarter.

Speaker 5 (01:04:37):
It's horrendous weather out there in Iowa right now, which.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
Means it's coming our way because i was directly western Chicago,
so I'm like, I'm I'm bracing for that weather.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
Help me speak.

Speaker 8 (01:04:49):
Yeah, it looks like turn on the fireplace, bundle up
and make that hot chocolate because.

Speaker 5 (01:04:53):
It looks miserable out there.

Speaker 8 (01:04:55):
The twelve minutes left in the third Syracuse in Miami
eighteenth Rane Hurricane with a fourteen to nothing lead, and
with ten minutes left in the second quarter, Washington trailing Wisconsin.
O three whis Consent came out this week and said,
Luke Fickle will be back. You know, if they win today,
it'll be their first win in the Big Ten. They
played five. Ohio State beat Purdue thirty four to ten.

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Second wereek Indiana, schoing to lay touchdown to beat Penn
State third twenty seven to twenty four. Fifth rate Georgia
with a twenty point win over Mississippi State and a
Thrane Texas tec b BYU twenty nine to seven.

Speaker 5 (01:05:29):
Back to you Fashion, Thank.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
You, Martin.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
I am actually someone who can shed some light on
the Auburn situation. Not someone that went to Auburn, but
somebody that's very familiar with their biggest rival. Is our
next guest. She is a team writer and reporter for
the Carolina Panthers. Her name Cassidy Hill. Cassidy, I'm so
excited to have you on.

Speaker 12 (01:05:51):
How are you hi, guys, I'm so excited to be
with y'all. Funny enough because I just heard your intro.
I did go to Alabama, Auburn's art rival, a fact
that my grandmother still to this day hasn't forgiven me for.

Speaker 6 (01:06:04):
Oh I grew up.

Speaker 12 (01:06:05):
I grew up an Auburn fano.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
Okay this I did not know.

Speaker 12 (01:06:09):
Yeah, I grew up an Auburn fan, went to Alabama,
spent ten years working in Gainesville covering the Gators.

Speaker 11 (01:06:14):
I'm just confused.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
Oh yeah, Claire like has your has half your family
just owned you at this point, like, good lord, You're
just gonna go and work and go to all of
the competitors.

Speaker 12 (01:06:24):
As long as I hate Tennessee and Georgia, I'm okay.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
I will not wear that gaudy orange. I will not
do it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
That's my favorite line from the Blind Palt Cassidy.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
You are You're so familiar with so many different teams
because you covered the Green Bay Packers, You're from SEC country.
You now work for the Carolina Panthers. Uh so I
think that you have you have a really good handle
on the NFC, just kind of in general.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
But I want to.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
Talk a little bit more about the Carolina Panthers because
when we talk about I always talk about you know,
I was a team reporter for the Buccaneers, and so
I aways get sensitive about the fact that nobody talks
about the Buccaneers. And if nobody's talking about the Buccaneers,
they sure as heck aren't talking about the Panthers right now.
Who you were You were at that game at Lambeau,
were you not?

Speaker 12 (01:07:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:07:12):
I was there.

Speaker 12 (01:07:13):
It was so I thought it was.

Speaker 11 (01:07:16):
A great game.

Speaker 12 (01:07:20):
Afterwards, I know that Michael Parsons called it boring football
and it was funny. The offensive coordinator, Brad is It
said on Thursday, he was like, he was like, I
laughed when I heard that quote because I got back
to the locker room.

Speaker 6 (01:07:31):
To a text for my dad with Tampa for years.

Speaker 12 (01:07:34):
That said that was beautiful football. That's exactly how the
Bucks won a Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
Uh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
It's like keeping the keeping the Chiefs out of the
end zone and a completely defensive performance. All right, So like,
what what about the Panthers? Should we be zeroing in
on here? Where's like with the most improved unit? I mean,
I want to talk about that offensive line. You know,
I know your coaches Harold Goodwin and Joe Gilbert because

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they were in Tampa. Those guys, I mean this, this
unit has gotten so much better.

Speaker 12 (01:08:06):
Harold Goodwin and Joe Gilbert arguably are like the most
underrated coaches.

Speaker 6 (01:08:13):
At least in the NFC right.

Speaker 12 (01:08:14):
Now in my opinion. What that offensive line did. And
it started last year. But you know last year it
was like, hey, let's put one hundred and sixty million
dollars on the offensive line and see what happens. Oh,
good things happen and that was with Robert Hunt and
Damian Lewis. This year, you lose Robert Hunt in week two,
you lose Austin Corbett. In week two, you put in
a backup center, a backup right guard, and then in

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week four you.

Speaker 11 (01:08:39):
Lose both of those guys as well.

Speaker 12 (01:08:41):
And what they did this past all season was kept
everyone from that offensive line unit. They kept everyone from
last year to this year. And when you can keep
your top nine guys and cross train them, they purposely
cross trained them.

Speaker 6 (01:08:56):
All all all season.

Speaker 12 (01:08:59):
And so when you get into situation, yeah, that would
like cripple a lot of teams, which the Panther's no
better than anybody because a situation like this crippled them
in twenty twenty three. When you get into that situation
where you're moving guys around, it's not as big of
a deal because now you can say, hey, caid May's
get in there and snap, because you know, you actually

(01:09:21):
started at center for ten games last year or whatever
it was. And then when cad May's, when Alston Corbett
came back from my r, Taylor Zavala, who was Robert
Hunt's back up at right guard, got hurt and it
was like, hey, Corbett, go in there and play right guard.
And then there was a game where Damian Lewis got
hurt and it was like, hey, go over there and

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play left guard. Freddie Christensen, who has started at all
five positions, go in there and play right guard. Like
they've moved guys around because they set themselves up so
that if a situation such as this were to ever
happen again, it would not be detrimental. And my god,
has it paid off. I think you know, I saw
the other day that, like Bryce's pressure number versus the Packers,

(01:10:04):
for example, Michael Parsons for the first time in his
career did not register a single pressure in the entire game.
That's incredible, and only I think Rashaun Gary only had
a couple. There were nine pressures for the entire game.
If you get through an entire game with against that
Packer's defensive front with only nine pressures and one sack, like,

(01:10:26):
that's a pretty good day. That that number more than
anything else, more than one hundred and two yards from Bryce,
more than the rushing yards from Rico, more than more
than Jordan Love's stats. The nine pressures with one sack
against that defensive front. I think tells the story of
that game more than anything, and it was exactly what
they wanted to do, which was get the ball out
quick and run the ball and avoid that pressure. It

(01:10:50):
was a perfect game plan and you can do that
because of how they built that offensive line with Goodwin
and Gilbert this past year.

Speaker 4 (01:10:58):
We were talking before this about the twenty twenty four
quarterback class and how you know sometimes quarterbacks need time,
et cetera. Bryce Young now a few years into the league.
It's been up and down, but how have you seen
the growth? And I was I know he came back
from injury, but he's coming into his own so to speak,
kind of how have you seen that growth? And what

(01:11:19):
do you think is contributed to that, especially of late.

Speaker 12 (01:11:23):
A couple of things. I think, first of all, I
would almost just consider twenty twenty three a lost year now.
If anything, it called him.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
What not to do, which I think do you need that?

Speaker 4 (01:11:33):
I think that it's important.

Speaker 12 (01:11:35):
Yeah, And that allowed twenty twenty four to kind of
be a Mulligan rookie season. And that's really how Da've
Canalis treated it. From the very beginning. He said, I'm
viewing I view this as Bryce's rookie season, and he
took that approach with him and started building up from
the ground up and instead of, you know, trying to

(01:11:56):
marry it with whatever happened in twenty twenty three. And
the biggest thing he said when he got in here,
or when Dave Canals got here, was I want Bryce's
throwing time to get down to two point seven seconds
and either the ball is out of his hand by
then or he's on to the quote unquote second play.
And it was something he mentioned having done with both

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Russ Gino and Baker Mayfield, and you go back and
you watch their throwing numbers in those years, and that's
and it did. It changed, It got down to a
realm that amount of time, and last year started that process.
This year has really really amped it up. And because
of that, like Pryce is either getting the ball out

(01:12:37):
quickly or he's moving on to what they call, like
I said, the second play, that quickly, and it has
made such a difference. His passing numbers are not gaudy,
they're far from it. But he's taking care of the ball,
he's getting them into the right play and he's keeping
it moving. And that's the biggest thing I mean he

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had he's had a franchise or tied a franchise record
his rookie season with something like sixty two sacks or
something atrocious like that. And this year I was looking
at this last night. So through nine games, but technically
eight for Bryce because he didn't play versus the Bills,
he has the second lowest pressure to sack ratio in

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the NFL, meaning when he's pressured, he's not getting sacked
and it's only behind bow knicks. So even when he
gets pressured, he moves out of the pocket and then
he gets rid of the ball in something like zero
point six seconds after getting pressured. And that's that's so quick,

(01:13:43):
you know, and you look at other guys who, like
I think Caleb Williams, after he gets pressured, he gets
rid of the ball, it's like one point eight seconds,
so more than a full second later. Caleb Williams can
do that because he can he can run around all
day and still make something happen. Like it's just different
types of quarterback play.

Speaker 6 (01:14:02):
And so that thinks of all of that to say,
to answer your original.

Speaker 12 (01:14:05):
Question, I think knowing Bryce's stature, knowing his talents, his skills,
and where what he does better versus other things. They
knew this offensive stuff, knew he needs to get the
ball out quick or he needs to be moving the
pocket to get the ball out immediately after. And that

(01:14:27):
has changed his game because that's really what he did
at Alabama and that's why he was able to find
success there. And then it was like his rookie season,
it was like, hey, we're going to turn you into
a pocket passing pro quarterback, you know, no matter what.
And that's not really where Bryce thrives. And so it's

(01:14:48):
letting him get out and letting him kind of scan
the field if he needs to, but still get the
ball out quick. And they've have found a good marriage
between that offense and what Bryce does well.

Speaker 2 (01:14:59):
Yeah, and a testament to Dave Canalis and really working
with Bryce and figuring out what he can and can't handle.
And then on top of that, you talk about that
second play thing, which is something that he did with
Baker and Tampa where it was like, no, there's essentially
another play built into all of these plays that if
this breaks.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
Down, this is what you do. And that takes a
while to get used to.

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
That's a lot to remember, that's a lot to process
at the moment, and so I think you're seeing that
comfortability this year. Cassidy. I am so happy we were
able to get you on. Thank you so so much
for joining us today. Have so much fun at the game.
Brow and Well, I'll be watching for sure because I
keep tabs on the Bucks and their biggest challenger I
think in that division right now is your Carolina Panthers.

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
Thanks.

Speaker 12 (01:15:38):
You have a game and a half different something like that,
so it's.

Speaker 3 (01:15:41):
Going to be it is.

Speaker 12 (01:15:43):
Thank you so much, Oh, thank you girls, and nobody else.
I'd rather spend a Saturday with.

Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
We Love.

Speaker 12 (01:15:52):
Love Y'all'll have a good day you too.

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
All Right, y'all, we got one more segment. Time Flies.
When you're having fun, your listen to Fox Football Saturday. Yeah, yeah,
this matches my mood on a college football Saturday where
I've been airing my grievances. I'm carbon vitally. That's Tracy
Sandler coming up in about ten minutes. You're gonna get

(01:16:15):
to hear Bucking Fits, whether you like it or not.
Buck Rising Jason Fitz two very good friends of mine.
They have a great show. It's really fun. They're really
fun to listen to and again, I will never ever
say that to their faces. But we're still having a blast.
We still have a little bit of show left for you.

(01:16:35):
And in fact, we have our last segment of the day,
which is the segment is It's my favorite because it
is the LOL moment of the week. It is a
chance to look back on something that made us laugh
because I need a laugh and I think everybody else
can use a laugh every week. So today's LOL moment
of the week for me. I will start Tracy, go

(01:16:57):
for it and it comes with kind of like a
poetry reading.

Speaker 4 (01:17:01):
Oh I love that, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
Tomorrow marks the fiftieth anniversary of the start of the
final voyage of the S. S. Edmund Fitzgerald, where twenty
nine souls were lost to the depths of Lake Superior.
The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down of
the big lake they call Getchagoomy, The lake, it is said,
never gives up her dead. When the sky is of
November termed gloomy with a load of iron, or twenty

(01:17:28):
six thousand tons more than the Edmund Fitzgerald weighed empty,
that good Ship and True was a bone to be chewed.
When the Gales of November came early. That is the
song Gordon Lightfoot, the Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald. I
live in the Midwest, and I all over my timeline
sports teams this, that the other. It's just it's a

(01:17:49):
fun thing. Everybody gets really into it. In the Great
Lakes region. In general, sports teams like play that the
Gordon Lightfoot song the record of the Edmond Fitzgerald in arenas.
This happens a lot in hockey. I actually don't know
if it happens in football stadiums.

Speaker 4 (01:18:03):
Jim Harba is a very big fan.

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
There you go, I mean Michigan Great Lakes. So it's
you're not a true Midwesterner if you do not pay
homage to the now gales of November, because we are
in the throes of it. That weather that you're seeing
in Iowa right now has made it to Chicago. It
is disgusting outside. These are the gales of November that
we are in and it's just been It's been a

(01:18:27):
fun thing. And around my house, my fiance decides that
it's his duty as a now transplanted Midwesterner to continue
to sing the song every day, all day.

Speaker 4 (01:18:38):
It was a big part of Michigan's national championship under
Jim Harbaugh, which I'm sure surprises nobody, no one. Not
a single solitary soul. Nope, not a single solitary soul,
which is just it's just perfection. Well, my LOL moment
of the week is it's Dodger related because it's probably
the last time and we get to talk about them
for a little while at least. And that was the

(01:19:00):
great key K Hernandez at the Dodgers parade the other day.
A moment's I mean his, I feel like daily there's
an LOL moment. But long story short, Drake decided to
troll shohy Otani, not a great move after game full,
Game five of the World Series, and the for the Dodgers'

(01:19:21):
locker room took umbrage, and so on Monday, Key K
came up on stage and said, and I will paraphrase
because it's not safe for work, but he basically said,
I wanted to get up here and take the time
to apologize to absolutely leaping nobody, And it was hilarious
because he met Drake and his trolling and guess what, Drake,
it didn't work. Thank you for the World Series. So

(01:19:44):
I laughed.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
And not only is k k Hernandez like usually good
for an lo moment, but like it is always Drake
getting dunked.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
On always it's so easy to do.

Speaker 3 (01:19:53):
He doesn't to himself exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
I don't even feel.

Speaker 4 (01:19:56):
Bad and then show, hey, put Kendrick Lamar on his
post about the world.

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
We love it all right, Thank you. This is another
Fox Football Saturday. Thank you for joining us. For Tracy,
I'm Carmen. Y'all have a great weekend.

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