Carmen Vitali & Martin Weiss React to the Lakers 1st Round Exit, Cleveland's QB Conundrum & More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
What's up, everybody? Happy Saturday? Another Fox Sports Saturday for you.
I'm Carl Vitally. I'm filling in in the host chair
for Alex Curry, who is off today but with me.
Although not actually in my studio, I have to still
look at him through the glass. This is Martin Weiss,
who I usually just gets my update anchor.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
But I'm so excited that you're here, Martin. I'm glad
to be here.

Speaker 4 (00:25):
You know, we just talked, we spoke this into existence
a few weeks ago.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Sure did, but uh.

Speaker 4 (00:30):
Yeah, I would be over there, but y'all still got
stuff to do. Yes, I know sano here. I got
a pitch, I got a.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Here you are. You're a two way player today.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Maybe Travis Hunter might even be a better analogy for
you right now, but I know you need your like
multiple screens, do the update, Martin. Martin's doing a lot
for me today, So I appreciate y'all being here. We've
got a great show for you. I have a Q Shipley,
twelve year NFL veteran Super Bowl champion offensive line guru.
He's the host of a segment on the Pat McAfee

(00:58):
show called in the Trenches, so you know that he's
one of my nearest and dearest. And then also Adam
Amen will be joining the show in the second hour
to talk not only about all of the jobs he
does for in sports, but also he's a DJ and
I've actually seen him DJ, so we're gonna talk about
that a little bit. But we've got NFL or we've
got NBA playoffs, we've got NFL Draft kind of stuff.

(01:20):
And then we also have some sports gossip that Martin,
I can't wait to dive into with you.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
One of my friends once told me that, like a
friend who's not into sports, was like, oh, all these
shows are just they're just like if Real Housewives had
reunions every day.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Everybody has their sport. It might not be an actual sport,
but it is. It is this like reality television of sport,
like Bravo is a league. You can't and you can't
convince me otherwise.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
And what we'll talk about at the top of next
hour is absolutely one of those moments where Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:51):
We're really blending entertainment here.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
We really are.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
We're multi faceted, Martin, Embrace it. We are broadcasting live
from the Fox It's radio studios today.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
And I want to start though.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
With the most topical of anything right now, which is
obviously the NBA playoffs in full swing. We I just said,
at the Fox Sports radio studios in Los Angeles. Uh So,
the topic of conversation, despite the fact that the Clippers
are still playing for their playoff lives, is the fact
that the Lakers are no longer I I I I was.

(02:24):
I was concerned Martin when when the Lakers went out
and got Luka Dancic. Okay, and not to say they
shouldn't have done this, because obviously that was a steal,
like the Lakers absolutely fleeced the Maps and and there's
it's been hell on earth in Dallas ever since. But
what my concern was, and imember talking to a Roch

(02:46):
Marczi about this and sometimes on this show, was that,
all right, you would essentially if you're the Lakers, you
didn't really have that grade of a defense to begin with,
and you traded away you're one player that was like
your best defender, you're your best two way guy. And
now I was like, all right, that probably doesn't matter
right now in the regular season. But as we all know,
the NBA playoffs are completely different. They might as well

(03:08):
be a different sport.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
I mean, especially the way the officiating is right now,
It basically is being a different sport.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah, So, was this lack of defense going to eventually
catch up with the Lakers?

Speaker 3 (03:18):
And I think it did.

Speaker 5 (03:21):
Oh no, it absolutely did.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
And honestly, it's a complete roster right, Like they tried
to make the Mark Williams trade, weren't able to do
it for whoever backed out for whatever reason. And it's
like the reason why they were trying to make that
trade because they saw we have a hole here that
we're trying to plug.

Speaker 5 (03:36):
So, I mean, I.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
Think it was a disappointing end to the season for
the Lakers, and I thought it was more of a
honestly a Minnesota level of this team was in the
Western Conference Finals last year.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
That was GNA.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
My question to you is was this more the Lakers
losing it or was it more that, like we should
have been taking the Minnesota Timberwolves a little bit more
seriously all along.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
I think should have been taking the Timberwolves more seriously
all along, especially when you consider that like it's kind
I don't know what it is.

Speaker 5 (04:03):
I don't know how to quantify it.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
But Julius Randall, Grudy Gobert, and Carlyn d Towns, three
big men who have been much more lined in the postseason,
have all had their best postseason series playing with Anthony Edwards.
But uh, it's it's you know, as that guy as
him being like the engine of the car.

Speaker 5 (04:21):
It's something to be said about it.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
I don't. I watched Cornicleton Towns was almost file out
with six points in a close out game last week.
So things have changed, you know. And I watched Julius
Randall guard Luca Dontons have changed, right, and so I
think it had a lot to do with the Timberwolves.

Speaker 5 (04:37):
The thing with the Lakers for.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
Me though, was I I never thought that this year
that they were going to be like a true like
they had to line up right for them, I think
if they had lined up right, but I thought that
the Denver was gonna beat them. You know, Minnesota's got
three guys seven feet tall. You know that's tough matchup.
The thing for me, I was curious, I don't when

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you hiring a head coach. And I think about this
all the time because I fell hook line and sinker
for Brady Holk at the University of Michigan. Brady Hope
got the job at Michigan. I watched that introductor of
press conference and it was almost tears coming down my eyes.
I was like, finally things are going to be better,
and you know what, nothing changed.

Speaker 5 (05:20):
In fact, things got worse.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
There's a common denominator that stays the same. But that's
another conversation ran.

Speaker 4 (05:27):
But the thing about it was he was just so
gung ho at the opening press conference, and so I
left it at that moment. I will never be impressed
by an opening press conference over again, but you can
you can't do some things that bothered me a little bit.
And when JJ Reddick said his opening press conference, I
don't give an f with people on it, Like basically,
I don't give f what people on the internet have
to say, what critics have to say about dispelling rumors

(05:50):
and notions. Right, It's like, first of all, I don't
believe you, cause three days ago you were on TV
responding to people who you know, like like we both
were in that space, Like you one hundred percent care
what the internet is talking about because that's how it.

Speaker 5 (06:05):
Helps inform what you're going to then.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Talk about on TV to let.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
People behind the curtain a little bit too, because I've
worked for teams directly and I've worked in PR in
addition to covering the team's like fourteen websites. When coaches
tell you that they don't pay attention to what's going on,
they don't know what's going on, they're not like on
social media, that is complete bs Because as a PR intern,
do you want to know what one of my jobs was?

(06:30):
It was to create a clip, a media clip packet
of both video and written coverage and put it all
in a nice little thing. And every almost every coach
I ever had to do this for wanted it first
thing in the morning every day, like first thing. So
that is usually actually the first thing that these guys

(06:54):
are looking at it, like I just start their day.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
Look, and then you go to his last that's like
three press conferences, right, his last three press conferences, the
exeit interview, the postgame.

Speaker 5 (07:05):
And then the pregame.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
When he gets asked the question by the reporter at KTLA,
it's like basically, do you Basically the question that the
reporter wanted to ask him was did any of your
assistants also think it was dumb not to sub anybody
out in the second half, But he danced around it, right,
because he's got relationships, he's a local guy, you know
what I'm saying. He's like, I gotta stay here to
the dance, right, And so JJ instead of dancing, was like, Oh,

(07:29):
you're calling me out because I'm in experience. Like who
called you an experience, bro? You called your self and
yourself in experienced, right, and so then and then in
the post game, he's like, everybody's saying, play a center,
play a center. We can't score. Who's everybody?

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Right?

Speaker 5 (07:43):
Who's everybody?

Speaker 3 (07:44):
You're not paying attention? How would you now?

Speaker 6 (07:46):
Right?

Speaker 5 (07:46):
If you're not paying attention, how would you know? And
I say that to say.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
If he had if he had burned the boats in
that second half and it had worked and the Lakers
were still playing, right now, people will be calling him
a genius. Sure, right, It's like, why don't you run
the two minute drill all quarter? You know, I don't
get it, bot, just make the whole play out of
the black blocks.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Yeah, exactly right.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
But the reality is is like, when you're a coach,
especially in this scenario, you have to be able to
stand on your decisions and feel.

Speaker 5 (08:16):
Like, yeah, we lost, but I was I tried to
win the game. I was trying to win the game.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
And when you see generally, in my opinion, she coaches
who get overly defensive like that, it's when you're on
year three.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
When you don't have the track record to back you up,
when you can't point to things that you've already done
and say, look, it worked that time, and say exactly
what you just said, which is it didn't work this time,
but it could happen.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
If it did, then you'd all be calling me a genius.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
You only get that benefit if you've been in the
league longer. So I do feel like younger coaches are
more defensive. They are a little bit more sensitive.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
And not to.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Mention, he's younger just in age and so he's a
little bit more in tune.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
I think with the.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Media landscape, well, I was gonna say more so than like,
you know, like Pop a bitch or anybody, which I
all the memes about Pop, despite the fact that Pop
wasn't actually on the internet. He's all over the internet,
and I just adore that. I just it begs the
question of like, all right, are you letting outside source,

(09:19):
like outside forces, I should say, kind of control the
way that you think and the way that you coach
your team. And I think that's the biggest concern when
you talk about a guy that seems sensitive. It's not
that he's sensitive. Everybody's sensitive to some degree.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
It's how much do you let that dictate your actions?

Speaker 2 (09:36):
And that's what is concerning when you see him get
all defensive in those press conferences.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
And you have worked and like you said, you've worked
for coaching, so you have a much more hands hands
on right in front of you view of this. But
I have I'm of the belief that and able to
be a good coach. To be able to be a
good coach, you also have to be able to lose.
So they have to understand why you lost, evaluate what happens.

(10:02):
Sometimes you're just going to lose because the ball didn't
go in right or like you know what I'm saying,
it's like, that's what just happened.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
And it's like we love sports, there's parody.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
There's things that happened that just happened that you can
you can like you can't predict it.

Speaker 5 (10:17):
Like I remember when urban Meyer got the Jacksonville job.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
I thought that he was going to be a disaster
because all I could think about as a Michigan fan,
full through and through, that's a full disclosure, But all
I could think about was him sitting in Lucas Oil
Stadium after that Big ten championship game with that Papa
John's pizza. He was so distraught that he had lost
the game. And I'm thinking, Man, if you're in the
NFL you lose five games in a year, you're one
of the best teams in the legs, Right, You're one.

Speaker 5 (10:42):
Of the best teams in the league.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
But if you were in college football you lose five games,
your season.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Was an athlete media failure, right.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
And so you've been able to lose and be able
to understand that a two and three start is not
the end of the world.

Speaker 5 (10:56):
Right.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
And I'm saying with jj Reddick again to go back
to the basketb of it all.

Speaker 5 (11:01):
Does he know how to lose? Does he know how
to lose?

Speaker 4 (11:03):
And does he know how to like move forward from
that and handle that to where he's not flaming out
at the press conference?

Speaker 2 (11:09):
But how much of allus did you think is that
the urgency that hey I have Lebron James on my team.
He's forty years old, he wants to win another Do
I get to hold on to him if we don't?
And like that I think probably plays into this too,
where the Lakers were seen as a team, especially when
they got Luca, like oh, this could be it. Although
I'm with you, I didn't necessarily I wasn't sold again

(11:30):
because my concerns were, I don't know how well rounded
this team is when when it comes to the postseason,
that's going to matter, and we saw it it does matter.
But I do think there's a sense of urgency when
it comes to the Lakers. Not to mention, the Lakers
are the most visible franchise in the league, one of
them at least if you know Boston, LA, I'm going
to say Chicago, but you know, I know that's kind
of a pipe dream at this point because they haven't

(11:50):
been relevant in thirty years. I just think that it's
always like in the way that the Dallas Cowboys, despite
the fact that they are not ready to contend, have
not been ready to contend in years, the Lakers have
been ready to contend, but are expected to be contenders
every single year. So there's an inherent sense of urgency
that comes with being the head coach of the Lakers,

(12:11):
and it's unlike any other position. So bringing in an
inexperienced coach, however experienced he was as a player, that
comes with some very unique pressures that I don't know
that it was Jaja Reddick ready for I don't know.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
And I think, honestly, if you look at something hit
me as I was watching that game where they didn't
make any SHUBs in the second half, remember Dalton connect
Like for the first half of the season, he was
playing like twenty twenty five minutes a game. He was
like in one of the top four eyes for Rookie
of the Year. They recinded that trade audios he was.

(12:48):
Remember he had to take a couple extra days to
get his mental together, but then he never became like
another rotational player from that right then, Like again, you've
had a lot more interactions with coaches than I have.
But I know this if I'm sitting on the bench
for the Lakers, and I've been on the bench for
the Lakers for eighty seven or eighty five game, and

(13:12):
all of a sudden, you go from one game not
playing anybody else, but you're five right to then subbing
in Maxi Kleeber, who eighty percent of America thought he
was still on the matter right like, and it summing
him inte and not only just subbing a minute in
the first half, but also again in the fourth quarter. Again,

(13:34):
I never played professional sports. They spent incredibly little time
in the locker room. But I know this, that would
be I would you would lose me, for sure, you
would lose me as a guy who's been here since
day one.

Speaker 5 (13:45):
Come on, dog, I'm gaving.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
I'm been different, I've been different looking at you.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Well, that and that's and that again that also comes
with coaching a pro team.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
All of these guys are grown men.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
They are being paid handsomely for their services, even if
they are bench players, still making me millions of dollars.
And you have there's a pride factor there and and
a maturity factor there where you're like, I can contribute.
I need to contribute. If you're not gonna utilize me,
you're gonna lose me. And whether that's physically lose him
or mentally as well.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
I feel like we didn't.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
We didn't get to the rest of the Western Conference. Okay,
see you just dominating, leaving no crumbs.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
As the kids say, the East. I feel bad.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
I haven't talked about the East like at all towards
the end of the season, but like nothing has really.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
Gone like other than.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
It's that's what happens, right, It's just like I get
a Jaylen Brown in the Magic want to fight.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
And also like I think, what the first round the
longest series of six games feels, right, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
So every everybody that we expected to move on has
moved on in the East, so we'll see. I mean,
I fully expected to still be Cavs Celtics at the
end of this going to whoever's gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
On a quick NBA note, have you seen the atrocity
that to Chicago White Sox are wearing today?

Speaker 3 (14:57):
I don't want to talk about it, Martin.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
I I know that most people may not be locked
into White Sox baseball, but I fell out.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
I know, I am obviously no.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
What really birks me though, is like these two teams
are owned by the same owner and have been so why.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Does it look like amateur hour?

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Like you know what the Bulls jerseys look like, and
like there are so many like, you could have just
done the black with the red pinstripe, because that's my
favorite Bullsters. Oh yeah, is the old school black with
the red pinstripe. You could have done that for the
socks and it would have been game over. I would
have gotten a jersey. It would have been incredible. I
love it.

Speaker 5 (15:33):
I would have been much better than this the red situation.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
The White Sox are trying to do a Bulls crossover jersey,
and it's just they look like they're.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Trying to be the Savannah Banas, which honestly, they might
have more success if they were. Anyway, we're gonna get
just actually some more Chicago stuff in the next segment,
but for right now, we're gonna take a quick break
and we'll see you on the other side.

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Speaker 2 (16:11):
You're not you're not giving me any incentive to start
the show. When you play depeche Mode, Chris.

Speaker 8 (16:17):
You's got to wait for it. Here it comes. Oh wait,
it's another there it.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Is I would be an excellent music djay.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
This song actually reminds me of something that's actually a
really good segue into our next topic, which my favorite
radio station in Chicago is called WXRT.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
And I've listened to it my whole life.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
It is so it's like classic rock, but it's not
just classic rock because they play newer stuff too. It's
unlike any radio station I've ever heard before. But that
song in particular reminds me of just like driving down
Lakeshore Drive listening to Depeche Mode in Chicago with on XRT,
and like it's it's my happy place. And so thank

(16:57):
you for that. And we're gonna talk about.

Speaker 8 (16:59):
Chicago and a policy of truth maybe.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
And the policy of truth perhaps with Matt Lafleur of
the policy of the policy of truth.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
This is all excellent, guys. I love that when a
plan comes together, all right.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Matt Lafleur went on busting with the boys decided was
asked about comments that Knew Chicago Bears head coach Ben
Johnson made in his introductory press commerce. By the way,
so this is not the first time that Matt Lafloor
has even talked about this, but I was at that
press conference that Ben Johnson when he was introduced as
the new head coach of the Bears, and he said

(17:35):
something to the effect of, like, I really enjoyed beating
Matt Lafleur twice a year, which obviously he knew was
going to play in Chicago to Bears fans. But now
Mattlafloor has now addressed in multiple times where he's like,
I don't know Ben Johnson, I respect him as a coach,
but like there's no beef. And the more that you
and you know what you tell me that there's no beef,

(17:58):
or the more that you tell me you're not bothered
by something, the more I think you're bothered by it.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Okay, So is that is that your read of this?

Speaker 4 (18:05):
Yes, part of me is wondering, like did Ben Johnson
just make this up? Like like there's like yo, like
there's no level of you know, in mad Men, when
forget who the character is walks in and tells Don Draper,
I feel sorr for you, and Don Draper says I all,
like that's no, there's no that coming from Matt Laflorida.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
No, okay, no, And I'll tell you why, Martin, Because
all right. I grew up in Chicago.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
As I just said, I grew up as a Bears fan,
huge Bears fan, and most of my life has been
spent hating the Green Bay Packers because for no other
reason than they were just better than the Bears. Like this,
this rivalry quote unquote record wise has been completely one
sided most of my life.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
And like, the stability at quarterback was always enviable.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Whatever, But now I'm grown up the league and I
spent a couple of years covering the NSC North exclusively,
and like, despite the fact that I didn't like the Packers,
I always respected them as an organization. They're a very
well run organization. They always have been. They've been very stable,
They've always had good quarterbacks. I respected what Aaron Rodgers
did on the field for the Green Bay Packers because
he just made football.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
Look pretty right.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
But there is a inherent rivalry where both of the
like Bears fans get a huge rep for the Packers
being in their heads too much. And it's true the
Packers are in their heads because this is the oldest
rivalry in the NFL. Aaron owns you yea exactly like
the discount double check the I own you all of that,
you transferred the deed to Jordan Love, which was all

(19:42):
fair because Jordan Love swept the Bears in his first year.
All of that is true, But you cannot tell me
that the Packers that the Bears aren't in the Packers'
heads too. And I'll point to two certain things. So,
first of all, covering Matt Lafleur, he's a phenomenal coach,
and I.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
Really believe that.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
But the way that he coaches is he's kind of
a high strung guy. He'll see him lose his head
at ref's. He's losing his head at his players. That's
how he gets guys fired up. He's a fiery guy, great, wonderful,
But like so when I see this interview, I can
see that fire kind of bubbling underneath where he's just like,
I don't know, Ben Johnson, that's not true. You know

(20:21):
Ben Johnson because he was where was he before the Bear?

Speaker 3 (20:26):
The Lion a division rival.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
So that's why I didn't think that Ben Johnson saying
that was really even that big of a deal because
he's speaking from his own experience. He was beating Matt
Lafour twice a year in while he was in Detroit,
and so that's all he was calling back to when
he knew it would play with the Chicago audience or
whoever's media training. Ben Johnson, by the way, excellent job.
But this is why there's that that I'm like, all right,

(20:53):
the Bears are in the Packer's heads too. And then
what just happened a couple of weeks ago at in
Green Bay was the NFL Draft. There are former Packer
players that get one shot to get up there with
the commissioner to start the first round. And for as
much as I was holding my breath when Clay Matthews
went off script, what did he use that opportunity to

(21:13):
do to say the Bears suck? So I'm like, you
cannot tell me that the Bears are not in the
Packers heads too, okay? And I really think that, Like
I didn't think it was that big of a deal
that Ben Jonson said it. Like I said, he was
speaking from his own experience. He was all, he's been
a division rival of the Packers for years now as well.
It's not to the level that the Bears Packers rivalry

(21:36):
is because that's the oldest again rivalry in the NFL.
But it's a cool rivalry too. Like, here's the thing,
I don't think we should be treating this as something bad.

Speaker 4 (21:44):
I wasn't there, I like, I prefer My question was
just like, is was it a level of I.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
Kind of should be? It should be the level of
like I shouldn't like Matt Laver should not care?

Speaker 4 (21:58):
Because the record would say on the floors like ya,
I've made the playoffs a bunch of time, Like what
have you done?

Speaker 3 (22:03):
It had exectifinitely more success.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
That kind of where I was looking at it, like
bes Johnson's is light work to me? Like I get
it that he was. He's a young, hot coordinator, so
was I. Once you know what I'm saying, And then
now look at me, do this. You know what I'm saying,
You can beat me?

Speaker 9 (22:17):
All right?

Speaker 3 (22:18):
Do it?

Speaker 5 (22:18):
Then?

Speaker 3 (22:19):
But doesn't that inherently mean he cares.

Speaker 5 (22:21):
No one hundred percent? But I just I just want
to make it clear.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
I think I think it's wonderful that each of these
teams are still in each other's heads after all this time,
after all the success that the packers have had, after
how one sided it has been. I'm glad because I
love rivalries. They're good for sports. However you decide to
keep those up. I'm I love it, I love it.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
We are sympatico right there because I like, I appreciate
the trash talk back.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
We don't have enough rivalries anymore. They've all died out.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
So let this one continue, let this fire burn, and
with that, please give us an update Martin.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
You know, I was gonna try to make a joke,
but I don't have a joke, So I'm just gonna
go ahead and say that every single horse running in
the one hundred and fifty first Kentucky Derby.

Speaker 5 (23:04):
Is a descended of Secretary. That's incredible.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
I know, six hundred and sixty foles have been sired.
That's horse talk for he had six hundred and sixty kids,
all nineteen horses in this.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Year's got to be with a lot of money. I'll
get to it a little bit because I want to
talk about it a little bit later.

Speaker 10 (23:22):
But it's like a Philip Rivers kids formed an NFL
offense or something, you know, to.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
Wow, No, it would be like legitimately if they all
started playing quarterback and then all of a sudden, like
a third of the league is quarterbacked.

Speaker 8 (23:36):
By this, you know, We're not just talking about a
fifty three man broster. We're talking full ninety in summer camps.

Speaker 4 (23:42):
So the Secretariat recorded the fastest time in Kentucky Derby
history in nineteen seventy three.

Speaker 5 (23:48):
Post time is six fifty seven Eastern.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
And if you look at the broadcast, you'll see Carmelo
Anthony wearing a stunning green suit with interesting hat.

Speaker 5 (23:57):
There. I liked it. I liked the outfit.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
To people wear bad weather across America Today though match
Cardinals postponed due to rain. The Pirates and the Padres
start in a rain delay, but early today we saw
them get it in and New York the Race came
from behind in the eighth inning to beat the Yankees
three to two.

Speaker 5 (24:13):
Aaron Judge with his eleventh homer of the year.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
Astros Jake Myers four for four with four extra base
hits at seven RBI.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
Last time I checked this score, he had two home
runs thirteen total base He's got an Astros record. As
they are beating your White Sox carbon in eight to
three in.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
The bottom of the eighth inning.

Speaker 4 (24:32):
So on yesterday, that's you know, that's the thing about basebally,
you gotta play again.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
See all the guys in the alfield with their shirts off.
Like you talk about teams need to know how to lose,
coach lose win.

Speaker 5 (24:45):
I'll tell you that.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
Jake Myers right now put it on a record performance
for his team. Top of the third Rockies Giants scoreless.
Bottom of the second Twins, Red Sox scoreless. Uh, the
A's up to nothing on the Marlins in the top
of the second inning.

Speaker 5 (24:58):
And the earlier today seven like.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
A beat Golf of straight sets to win her record
tying third Madrid o back to.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
Us, back to us.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
Thanks Martin Paul in double duty today. Really appreciate that.
But right now, let's go and talk to a man
after my own heart, twelve year NFL veteran Rimington Trophy winner,
if I'm not mistaken, Super Bowl champion, current broadcaster on
the Pat McAfee show, and O line guru trains a
bunch of guys. I've seen it firsthand, my dear friend

(25:29):
AQ Shipley.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Hi.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
Aq.

Speaker 9 (25:32):
Quite the intro. Thank you guys for having me.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Of course, I'm so excited you're here because I feel like, obviously,
more representation for the Trenchman is never a bad thing,
but you have been intimately involved in the draft process
for some of the from the prospect angle, because you
train offensive line prospects for the draft, you train guys
while they're in the league. But I want to understand

(25:56):
and I want the listeners to understand this period of
time after you get drafted, what is kind of the cadence.
What are you doing to kind of prepare for your
first NFL season. If you are a guy that was
just drafted.

Speaker 9 (26:10):
It is such a whirlwind whenever you get drafted, because
what people don't realize is like a lot of the veterans,
right like, as soon as the season's over, you get
your two months off and then you start training again.
A lot of these college kids, there's been no break.
The minute they're bowl games over, the minute their last
games over, they're shooting to wherever they're training to get
ready for the Combine or their bowl game, or their
Senior Bowl or East West Round, whatever it may be.

(26:31):
And then you get done with that. Then you go Combine,
you do all the stuff, and then you get done
with the Pro Day, and then the draft comes and
then you're right into rookie mini camp and then you're
throwing in with the Wolves you're thrown in with the
rest of the group and it's like, hey, figure it out,
and you're spending extra time. And then when the vets
get to go and go back to their homes and
get back to training and do whatever it is, the

(26:52):
rookie you get a staand extra two weeks, so there's
no break. I mean, it is pedal down, full speed
ahead the minute this happens, and you're just trying to
consume and take in as much as you possibly can.
And the good ones, the ones that make it as
a rookie, and the ones that you know end up
playing as a rookie, the ones that can you know,
get that knowledge, process it and be able to and

(27:15):
be able to be able to go as soon as
basically the season goes.

Speaker 4 (27:20):
Thank you when you got drafted. I know this may
be a little minute shit, but I'm fascinated by it.

Speaker 5 (27:26):
When you got drafted, how long did it take you
to pick a number? Did you pick a number? Where
you assigned the number?

Speaker 4 (27:31):
And the longest sort of it is, did you want
anybody's retired number out of retirement? Because what's the deal
with this abdual Carter fifty six eleven and just could
you sign some insight on that for me as a layperson.

Speaker 9 (27:44):
Yeah, I'm a Penn State guy, so it's tough for
me to kind of go against my guy. But what
are we doing here? And what are we doing here?
I mean this is there's plenty of numbers, especially since
they did away with you know, linebackers had to be
either fifties or nineties, right like that, Now you can
be whatever number you want. For the most part, pick
a number, Pick a number, pick a number, Like it's

(28:06):
that simple. I don't understand what we're doing. There's plenty
of numbers, and like, at the end of the day,
I have respect for the older generations, Like if the
numbers retired and numbers retired, move on and pick a
different number, keep a movement, make it your own number.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
This generally doesn't cause as much drama, right like this, well,
no it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
But like when you're talking about one of the greatest
to ever play the position, like there needs to be
some difference there, right.

Speaker 9 (28:28):
Yeah, I agree, that's interesting, there's no question about it.
Because at the end of the day, like you sit
there and you hope that these rookies just kind of
fall in line, Like I understand your top three pick,
but you're still a rookie. You're still a rookie. There's
gonna be plenty of things that go on, and like,
if you are a good rookie, you can be a

(28:48):
damn good football player and you can start and you
can make twelve sacks and make the Pro Bowls a rookie.
But what's going to be remembered most by the veteran
guys is you just putting your nose down, putting your
hard hat on, showing up to work, keeping your mouth shut,
and just working and just being and falling in line
with the rest of the.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Crew and to that.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
And then so you work with these guys while they're
in the draft process, and like, these they're young players.
So what would you say is the biggest piece of
advice that you try to impart on them for when
you're done kind of training with them and they have
to go and on their merry way to their new team.
What's the biggest thing that you try to get them
to understand.

Speaker 9 (29:25):
Exactly that I mean, it's the fact that you are
a rookie. It's the fact that you know you want
to go in there and make an impression and how
do you make an impression. Well, here's how you make
an impression. You show up, you study, you study extra,
you go back to your hotel room at night, you
study some more, and you make an impression by being
able to process information and being able to transfer that
to the field. That's how you make an impression. Like

(29:47):
I like I always when I was in my ninth
or tenth year, whatever it may be, I'd sit there
and I'd be like, Okay, well is this guy going
back and studying? Well, like, if you have to continue
to tell this guy how to run twenty two do
and once you explain it to him once and he
screws it up two more times, and now he's on
his fifth time screwing up the same exact play, and

(30:08):
we're in the fourth week of the off season. It's like, Okay,
he's not putting in the effort. He's not putting in
what we're doing. So you have to sit there and
you have to understand this is a job now, this
is this is everything. It's everything that I mean. They're
paying you a lot of money now, especially if you're
a high draft pick. They're paying you a lot of
money to process this information transfer to the field and

(30:32):
be able to go in there and impress the coaches
and show them that they can trust you.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
No one's going to do it for you know, one's
going to hold your hand like maybe they did in
college a little bit because everything is kind of set
right there.

Speaker 9 (30:43):
That's exactly right, AQ.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
Now that AQ Shipley joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.
Now that we kind of have done with the team
building parts. Not all the way done obviously, but we've
had a lot of the free agencies completed, the drafts
that's completed. Which offensive line grouping do you think is
like the most improved from last year to this year.

Speaker 9 (31:03):
I think the Minnesota Vikings, yep, hands down made the
biggest jump. And the reason and listen, it's a reactionary league,
right and so when you look at what they accomplished,
right well by winning whatever it was fourteen games in
the regular season last year, and they go and get
smoked by giving up seven sacks in a first round
playoff game, that's a very reactionary move by handling. By

(31:27):
the way they handle free agency and the way they
handle the draft. So I think their tackle combo is
as good as it gets. I was fortunate enough to
work with Brian O'Neill this offseason. Absolute stud right tackle there.
Christian Darris, in my opinion, is the next Trent Williams.
And now you go ahead and you pair them with
a veteran Studd and Ryan Kelly at center. You bring

(31:48):
Will fries in, who's a young up and coming guard,
and then you draft a kid in the first round
in Donovan Jackson. And so they instantly went from a
team that gave up seven sacks in a playoff games
to a team that's now going to be that's going
to be a strength of their offense.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
I and and you saw how much that mattered too,
and especially when you want to get the run game going.
You written renewed Aaron Jones in Minnesota. I'm with you.
I think that interior was covered up for the most
part by those two tackles and just how good they were.
But it was a pretty sorry excuse for defense or
an offensive line interior. Q. I really appreciate you coming

(32:22):
on with us and taking some time off of the
golf course.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
I believe.

Speaker 9 (32:27):
Yeah, I'm down. I'm down at this event in Dallas
doing a little golf thing. But it's It's always fun
talking football, always fun. So thanks for having me on.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
And in the trenches.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
If you guys haven't seen his in the Trenches segment
on the Pat McAfee Show, and check it out during
the during the season.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
It's one of my favorite things. The way that he
breaks down.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Uh the offensive offensive line place that you and I
can understand it.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
He's very different. Thank you so much. AQ. We'll talk
to you soon.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Thank We are going to take another quick break on
the other side of this.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
We've got some dues and the don'ts of the day.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
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Speaker 2 (33:10):
You can't give me this though, and have me not
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tall and strong credits.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
What are we doing it?

Speaker 8 (33:18):
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Speaker 3 (33:20):
So it's five o'clock somewhere.

Speaker 5 (33:23):
It is.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Honestly, it's a Saturday. It doesn't even have to be
five o'clocks on SAT somewhere. But welcome back to Fox
Sports Radio. I'm karme Vitally in the host chair filling
in for Alex Curry.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
I've got Martin White weis with me.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
If I could speak from the update studio but also
co hosting.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
He's pulling double duty today. Just call him Travis Hunter.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
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We just talked to a q Shipley on the phone lines.
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(34:23):
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with that we're gonna highlight the dues and the don'ts
of the week.

Speaker 7 (34:35):
Highlighting Oh I love that, putting a spotlight on the don't.

Speaker 8 (34:39):
The subject brings me no joy.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
That that's insane.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
It's time for the dues and the don'ts in sports,
all right, bart, and I'm gonna start. You're gonna start
with a do And it's something that we've kind of
touched on already in the update breaks do what works.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
The Kentucky Derby is on and Secretariat, the winner of
the nineteen seventy six Kentucky der A triple crown I
believe was is responsible for the entire field. He's responsible.
He is a just every single horse running in the
Kentucky Derby today is a descendant director otherwise from Secretariat,

(35:16):
which is insane.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
It just speaks to how.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Good his lineage is, his bloodline is. There are quite
a few. There are multiple horses that are literal direct descendants,
so either they're his grand horse, shires, his grand fires.
But what that also tells me, Martin, is that there's
a whole lot of money that's gone into Secretariat's lineage.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
Oh yes, absolutely, I was gonna say, but there I
wasn't gonna go.

Speaker 4 (35:46):
There's so many places ago I will say, do take
care of yourself. Mike Turrico ended up having to get
actually taken off in the Kentucky Derby broadcast because of
the illness.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
It is cold, highest sixty degrees.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
Rainy and all of that. He's not feeling the best.
So hopefully he does feel better. But you got to
understand the guy like trying to play sick, you know,
on the daylight the Kentucky.

Speaker 5 (36:08):
Derby, Like that's what you do it for if you're
a guy like Marke Urrika. So hopefully he's able to
recover quickly.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
And also a dentim Carmelo Anthony with this funny hat
announced as an NBA analyst like.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
Two seconds ago on the Kentucky coverage.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
You see if you guys are watching Kentucky Derby and
you saw Carmelo Anthony like meet with the jockeys, it
was so funny, yes, because like obviously he's already a
tall dude and jockeys are already small dudes. But just
the height discrepancy and like the body mass discrepancy is
just hysterical when you see it so starkly.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
All right, I have.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
A don't say goodbye, say see you later to Greg
Kofovich retiring so many we touched on it earlier too,
when we talked about NBA like.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
There's just so many good quotes, so many good memes.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
And for a guy that like despise the Internet, he sir,
made it a better place.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
But he also made basketball better place.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Just an absolutely legendary coach and Greg Popovich and so
incredibly accomplished not only with you know, the hardware and
what happens on the court, but with the way that
he related to his players and kept in touch with
his players and also gave his players opportunities, like you know, getting.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
Tim Duncan on his coaching staff.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
And I just say, he's exactly the guy that you
want your head coach to be.

Speaker 5 (37:32):
I do wish he had not a load managed. I
wonder where would be today today.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
Do find somebody who loves you like Jim Harbaugh loves
Justin Herbert. Jim Harbwall was on Rich Eyesen the other
day Friday, and he said, I woke up at three
o'clock in the morning when my best ideas comes, and
it was says, I have to get Justin Herbert to
the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
Let's get Justin Herbert to the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
That would be winning a couple of Super Bowls, that
a worthy goal.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
It is a worthy goal.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
No, I mean just in general, like, do you remember
how much Jim Harbaugh rode for JJ McCarthy in the
draft process and how much like he's just he's got
a brand. Jim Harbaugh has a brand, and by god,
he's gonna stick to it.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
I love that. I have another. I guess it's a
don't do I don't know, it's.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Do you do do check like your I guess facts like,
before you participate in social media trends, do understand what
they are in the first place. And this is like
a little bit more like less sports, more like this
just happened to me this week. I went on Twitter
or on TikTok, I should say, And then I like,

(38:49):
because I kept seeing this butterfly effect. Do you see
this trend where it's like the butterfly effects?

Speaker 3 (38:54):
Crazy?

Speaker 2 (38:54):
What if I'd never gone on that hinge date. I
went on a rant being like, that's not the butterfly effect.
Put some respect on Ashon Cutchers and the movie of
the same name from the ninety or the early two thousand,
that's not the butterfly effect.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
And I went and I explained the butterfly.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Effect and now I've gone viral for explaining something that
I'm not even really that well like equipped to handle.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
Or to like to explain.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
And I'm like, media literacy has gone down the toilet.
We're gonna talk about meteor literacy in the next segment,
but that was one thing that got me, and now
it's all over the internet with me explaining to people
what the butterfly effect.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
Is absolutely media literacy toilet flush. Do work out over
the summer, Luca dncis because because here here's the thing,
it's out there now.

Speaker 5 (39:35):
Nico Harrison called you fed and lazy.

Speaker 4 (39:37):
JJ Reddick said, Championship seven, we got to figure it out.

Speaker 5 (39:41):
Do come in in shape next year, Luca.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
It really I don't care if he's fully healthy, but
it rears its ugly head when he's coming off an
injury and he's not as well conditioned as he should be. Like,
that's when you see that this matters so and I agree,
I'm with you there.

Speaker 4 (39:59):
I got one more, Carmen, Uh do date people your
own age?

Speaker 3 (40:03):
Oh geez, we'll talk about that right after this. We're
gonna take a quick break.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (40:10):

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Welcome in to hour or two of Fox Sports Saturday.
I'm Carna Battali. I'm sitting in the host chair in
for Alex Curry, who was off today, and I've got
Martin Weiss with me in the update studio and as
my co host. Just a man that does it all,
a true modern renaissance man.

Speaker 5 (40:31):
Listen.

Speaker 4 (40:32):
You know, I don't know how modern I want to
be with the way that some of these trends are going,
you know, but uh, I'll take the renaissance, you know.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Yeah, guy that does it all, producer extraordinaire, all of
these things. We're coming to you live from the Fox
Sports Radio studios, and if you'll allow me, Martin, we're
gonna get a little We're gonna spill some tea like
I feel like I should. We should be sipping like
Martini's and just like with a plate of fries and
a Caesar salad and just the girl.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
The girl, exactly, girl.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Exactly, That's what I was saying, exactly, Like you know
how that goes? Because sports world is all in it
tizzy and for a lot of reasons why I think
this goes beyond even sports gossip. Bill Belichick and Jordan Hudson,
his twenty four year old girlfriend, are in the news
again because of a CBS Morning's interview where Belichick went

(41:28):
on to talk about his new book, a memoir.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
And Jordan, his girlfriend.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Slash pr manager apparently cut the interview short after Belichick
was asked about how they met. Now we apparently we
supposedly know how they met, which is that they met
on a plane in twenty twenty one while Jordan was
studying philosophy as a student. There is a fifty year
age gap between them, but that's none of my business.

(41:55):
What is my business, though, is when a twenty four
year old with limited experience, especially in this field, is
now calling the shots for a gigantic brand, which is
Bill Belichick and UNC football, right North Carolina Football, Jordan

(42:18):
branded North Carolina Football.

Speaker 5 (42:20):
I get the ACC's been down, but I might still
this is.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
So this is like they can like, be happy with
who you're happy with. I'm not here to judge love,
I'm not here to do any of that.

Speaker 5 (42:32):
But a little bit, well a little bit.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
Okay, I mean I think we're all a little bit.
But I think if you read this and you don't
look like eh, Okay, Well, now.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Talking about butterfly effects and all of these certain things,
there is something called the Strysand effect where the more
that you shy away from or try to keep people
from knowing something it does stem from Barbarer streisand the
more that they're going to look into it. So now
that Jordan Hudson shut down this question about how they met,
it's like, wait a second, why aren't you Why aren't

(43:04):
you talking about it anymore?

Speaker 5 (43:05):
And let me ask you you prior to this moment.

Speaker 4 (43:08):
Yeah, now we both are in the weeds here, but
you had heard the story of how they had met, right,
we just the one line of they met on a
plane to Palm Beach in twenty twenty one, right, exactly right.
So I had heard that too, right.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
And I'm like, all right, I can leave it at that.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
It's cute, it's a cute meet, cute whatever, Like I
could see how that would happen. You know, it's not
my business why she's flying first class down to Palm Beach,
but you know whatever, Uh, my biggest thing here, there's
a couple things. I'm gonna start kind of like with
something specific and then we can go a little more
granular here or u more broad here. The interview itself,
which is what spurred all of this. We in the

(43:46):
spirit of media literacy, we need to understand that subjects
do not dictate what an interviewer asks. Subjects do not
dictate what a journalist asks. Now, Bill Belichick was brought
to CBS Mornings to talk about his book. They talked
about his book that Bill Belichick even told on himself

(44:06):
in the statement that he released that they had a
half an hour long conversation that was very productive, and
they talked about the book, and YadA.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
YadA, YadA. After you fulfill that courtesy.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
By the way, there's nothing that says that you're obligated
to do this. If you're CBS Mornings, Belichick is doing
a press store to promote you need Belichick needs the
networks more than the networks need him.

Speaker 5 (44:29):
In the scene, he's trying to sell the book.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
He's trying to sell the book.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
You are under no obligation as a journalist even ask,
but as a courtesy, they did. They ask about the book.
Everything else is fair game. After that, everything else not
to mention it's a memoir.

Speaker 3 (44:44):
Guess who's part of his life?

Speaker 2 (44:46):
Jordan how they met was three years ago and is
conceivably part of this story.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
So the interviewer is actually in the book.

Speaker 4 (44:58):
If you want to get technical, there's a line in
the book that says thank you to my muse and
intellectual and so on and whatever.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
It's dedicated to her.

Speaker 5 (45:05):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
So the interviewer is well within his rights as a
journalist to ask Belichick about other things. That's how journalism works.
That's why we have a free press. That's why people
are held accountable. That's what journalism is supposed to be.
It's supposed to get information and disseminate information and tell stories.
That is what journalism is, no matter what anybody else

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wants to tell you.

Speaker 4 (45:30):
And it the idea that it is not eyebrow raising
at the minimum, right to have this be a room.
All right, let's just take take it, take away the ages,
take away.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
Where too, martiniz and now this is Martin after too, Martino.

Speaker 5 (45:48):
Shares you can take away the ages, take away all
of it.

Speaker 4 (45:51):
Yeah, if I just told you that the person who
was also like heavily influencing North Carolina and media relations
was also the head coach's wife, you'd be like that's
a little like why that's the conflict.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
That should be.

Speaker 4 (46:07):
Somebody else's job exactly. That's somebody else's job in general.
And when we see it is not out of the
ordinary to see coaches with their wives prominently displayed is
the wrong term, but.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
That's just like involved, like health involved.

Speaker 4 (46:24):
Yeah, like even Sark Sark and his wife got divorced
and remarried, and she dressed she it was a story
how she laid down in dressed him right, laid down
his outfits for it to wear on game day and
press conference and so on.

Speaker 5 (46:37):
So it's not out of the question or out of
the ordinary for that to be the case.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
But it is weird when she actually works with miss
Nick Saban.

Speaker 4 (46:46):
Might work for Alabama US in other words, that's that's
that's the thing, Laurie els Arkisian does not work for
University of Texas.

Speaker 6 (46:53):
Well.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
That's that's how I want to transition kind of out
to the broader sense of what this the implications of
this relation ship are is So that interview with CBS
also told on Jordan, because if you understand the basis
of journalism and you have experience in this, you don't
stop that interview there you understand that that's part of

(47:14):
this and that all of that is within the realm
of what the what the interview is going to contain,
And by not thinking the or by thinking that you
can dictate it, you're showing your lack of experience in pr.

Speaker 4 (47:25):
Because what you do is you cut off the third question.
Maybe if that, but it's like, oh, how'd you guys meet?
You have the blanket boiler plate, we met on a plane,
we connected. I was helping her with their homework, so
on and so forth, and then when they asked, well,
what kind of homework was it, you'd be like, well,
we're really.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
Shit, let's let's stick to the top. Like that's fine,
that's your way. You maneuver that scenario exactly. And so
you're showing your lack of experience. And why does that
matter because you have such an important role now in
a program that is bigger than you.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
If Belichick was retired and.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
You're going on a book tour to do like with
his memoir and everything like that, great, guess what, Belichick
is the only one that is impacted by your actions,
your lack of experience any of that. That's fine, that's
his prerogative. But now because you have the ear and
the like, you have the power of Bill Belichick behind

(48:24):
you with a football program that impacts like these kids
that are on the roster, if they were on the
roster before Belichick got there, they certainly didn't sign up
for this. Even the guys that were recruited by Belichick,
they probably didn't sign up for this Belichick either. And
to have that type of sway over people's livelihoods because
college is no longer amateur hour.

Speaker 3 (48:47):
That is a problem.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
And the fact that she has real estate in her like,
all of that kind of stuff. Honestly, that's a moot point.
It is how does this affect the University of North
Carolina football program? And the answer is it does tremendous.
And you are playing with people's lives at this point
because you were not hired by the university, you were
not vetted by the university, You were not put in

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this position because the university thought that you would be
a net good for this program.

Speaker 4 (49:15):
And the thing that gets me is that if you
were in a scenario where like to your point, we
both agree that it has an impact on North Carolina's
football program, right, yes, but I think that because they're
so afraid to say what actually is going on. It

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feels like I'm not sure.

Speaker 5 (49:41):
I don't know if.

Speaker 4 (49:41):
The impact that I'm envisioning her having is actually outsized
to what her impact actually is.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
Do you know what I'm saying. But because they.

Speaker 4 (49:50):
Go about it, like you said with the strayshand effect, like,
because you're going about it trying to suppress this information,
now it is my mind is filling in gas like well,
Luca donc just got traded. It didn't make sense, right,
So all of a sudden, when things don't make sense
to human mind automatically starts to fill in tries to
rationalize why this would happen, Why would this be the case?

(50:11):
So like when you go to like this situation here,
she says, well, why don't you want to talk about
what's actually like also.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
A very basic question, It was not invasive and again
like if you can, you have the built in answer there.
So because you refuse to answer the question, like as
the subject, you are free to answer it however you want,
but not answering it then says to me, there's something
more to the story. And then everybody's going to dig in.
And even if there's not something more to the story.

(50:41):
You have now created a fascination with this part of
your story, so that all of the other stuff from
your past is.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
Going to be brought to light.

Speaker 4 (50:50):
Now, Claraz, you would have just said, I didn't know
two weeks ago that she had a sixty eight year
old ex boyfriend prior to old Billy boy.

Speaker 9 (50:58):
I know.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
I saw that too.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
I haven't like vetted it from any sort of like
multiple sources. This is the journalist in me wanting to
do that before I jump to those conclusions. But yeah, rumored,
the rumor is that she already had a sixty something
year old boyfriend and at that point she would have
been what like nineteen twenty.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
I feel like I read it in the New York Post. Okay, well,
so that goes back and forth.

Speaker 5 (51:19):
Honestly, I get your point. Yeah, yeah, where we are today.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
No, at the end of the day, it's not the
relationship that bothers me, so like, it's not the gossip
part of this.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
It is the part of this where she.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
Has say an authority that she was given by Bill
and not by the university, over the lives of people
at this university and the livelihoods, and that, to me
is the problem.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
Yeah, she like, I just googled Jordan Hudson and now
all of a sudden, it's this headline from US Weekly.

Speaker 5 (51:49):
True.

Speaker 4 (51:50):
Yes, today, Jordan Hudson would be rate and control. High
school boyfriend former classmate claims nobody was doing.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
These googles when you just reconfirmed your relationship. Yeah, back
when you first confirmed it, no one did this. But
now you created this fascination. You've created the strive state effect,
and now you're gonna have to suffer the ramifications, which
again speaks to your inexperience in PR and public relations
and journalism for that matter.

Speaker 5 (52:14):
Right, I can't figure anybody better to be run in
the program.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
Oh gosh, those poor kids. All right, we're gonna take
a quick break. On the other side of this, We're
gonna I guess that qualifies as some more sports gossip.
We're gonna talk about the Browns uh thinking behind their
draft strategy and what Cam Newton has to say to
Stir Sanders. We were listening to Fox Sports Radio. We're
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(52:40):
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we got a little you know, two girls. Espresso, Martiniz Caesar,

(53:28):
salads and fries.

Speaker 5 (53:29):
Another blast of prosecco, please, Another.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
Glass of prosecco. Shall we talk about the Browns. I'm
gonna need that other glass to say.

Speaker 4 (53:38):
Another bottle of prosecco please for the Cleveland Browns.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
You know.

Speaker 4 (53:44):
When they drafted Dylan Gabriel in the third round. I
love how there's certain moments like because now in the
last twenty years, we now kind of watch things increasingly
as a group, right, Like, even if you're not watching
something like one, if you're not watching it, you're still like, wait,
what does happen?

Speaker 2 (54:04):
Right? All right, You're like, we're all engaging in these
moments together. That is, honestly, that is social media at
its best. For as evil and awful as social media
can be, the social media is at its best when
big moments happened and we all collectively get to talk
about it.

Speaker 4 (54:18):
NFL draft definitely qualifies as a big moment. And when
Tyler Schuck was drafted at like forty, people were like
hm hm. But then when Dylan Gabriel was drafted, everybody,
all right, hold on a damn minute.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
I literally go it on. I retmaded something and it
was like, I like that.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
We all collectively decided that one still and Gabriel got drafted,
Like we're like, all right, something's happening.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
This stuff is hit ful, exactly.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Mander Barry, the GM of the Cleveland Browns, came out
this week and said what we all knew, that the
Browns did not go into the draft thinking they were
going to draft two quarterbacks, and can I tell you
my theory Martin so picking Dylan Gabriel in the third round.
I feel like that was Barry and Kevin Stefanski's attempt

(55:06):
to appease ownership, saying, look, look what we did. We
drafted a quarterback like that, what else can you ask
us for? We took, We took a shot. We feel
like this guy is the fit we took Like, yeah,
all right. So that was to Jimmy has Them, but
then it's Shador Sanders.

Speaker 5 (55:24):
Jimmy hasm was like, hold on, I watched the Rose Bowl.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
Too, No end like this was completely driven by Brown's ownership.
This was completely driven by Jimmy Haslam being like really,
really no, we're gonna go and take Shador.

Speaker 4 (55:41):
Now, it is evident that there was a plan in
the third round, and by the fifth round that plan
had changed dramatically.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
Who does that? The owner?

Speaker 2 (55:50):
The owner is the only one that has the opportunity
to override the plan going in and I really they have.
This is my this is my whole thing about now
the Browns quarterback situation, which does not it will not
elect me, it will not allow me to buy Andrew
Berry's explanation that well, the positional value is just too good.

(56:12):
Guess what not if you're the Browns, and I'll tell
you why, because you now have five quarterbacks on your roster,
not one of them is an immediate trade asset.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
Usually, like you see, what the what the Seahawks did?
They drafted Jalen.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
Milroe, they immediately let Sam Howell go. Yep, you do
not have five quarterbacks on a roster. But then you're not,
like Joe Flacco has to be your starter because he's
the only one right now that you feel good about
starting tomorrow, so you can't trade him. The only other
team that might be willing to trade you for a
quarterback is the team that Kenny Pickett just came from.

(56:50):
So Kenny Pickett's off the table. Then you have two
untested rookies, third round and fifth round rookies.

Speaker 4 (56:58):
By the way, everybody could have taken in any of
those prior rounds in.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
A weak quarterback class as well, So no one knows
what they're gonna do, and they weren't picked for a reason,
They're passed over for a reason. And then you have
a guy that's completely hurt slash damaged goods.

Speaker 5 (57:16):
The owner shed Yeah, we vest that one up.

Speaker 10 (57:20):
God, they also gave up an asset for Picket too.
It's not like they just got him for free, right,
so they have something invested in it.

Speaker 3 (57:26):
They have, they have something invested in him.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
Again, none of these five count them five quarterbacks on
their roster or trade assets. So you have now just
I mean, you already could never take advantage of drafting
a rookie quarterback because you're paying to Shaun Watson so
much money to not play for you. But you have
compounded that issue by adding like a little bit. And

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granted it's not a lot, but like you said, they
gave up something to get Kenny Pickett, You're gonna have
to pay Joe Flacco. I mean, it's gonna be a veteran,
a very reasonable veteran salary. But you're just compounding the issue.
So like there, it's just so clear that Brown's management
is not in control in Cleveland.

Speaker 5 (58:09):
And that's what gives me. I don't know if it's concerned.

Speaker 4 (58:14):
I thought it was telling right that after day one
of the draft, shed Door said.

Speaker 5 (58:19):
Tomorrow will be the day, and then it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
It wasn't the day.

Speaker 4 (58:23):
It seems to me that he was getting very very
bad advice, Like like it, he was incredibly bad advice.
And I wonder had he been getting different advice, if
you would have carried himself in a different way, and
if teams would view him in a different light. So
I do wonder, like when he gets to the league
to the point of what Cam Newton was talking about,
because to your point, there are five different.

Speaker 5 (58:46):
Quarterbacks in this room.

Speaker 4 (58:48):
You just outlined all the reasons why all five of
them will probably be there.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
Well, I mean, or you just have to go to
literally fire them, right, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (58:59):
But you're not gonna win any any transaction here or
there with any of these stubs. And so like when
I look at shaudor like and Cam Newton on his
podcast said that it's time to lead with the work,
not clout.

Speaker 5 (59:12):
And then Shadeure saying to the Cleveland.

Speaker 4 (59:15):
Media on that phone or as soon as you got draft,
he get drafted, saying I'm really interested to have the
opportunity to show people the real me, Like.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
Why didn't we see the real you already?

Speaker 5 (59:26):
I hear you.

Speaker 4 (59:28):
I'm not I'm not dissolving that right, are taking that out,
But I do think there is something that it was
up until this moment. This are This is the first
time in their lives or professional lives, that Shadoor and
Dion will be very split, you know what I'm saying. Like,
there's the first time they're not in the same rooms.
It's the first time they're not working together. It's the

(59:50):
first time that the people who are working with them,
you know what I'm saying, that's not the dynamic. And
so I am interested to see how he maneuvers this.
Because of all the reasons you do laid out, I'd
agree with you, Joe flattgo probably is gonna be QB one,
But I would I like this. If I was a sportsbook,
I'd set the odds on Shador shanders potential like starts

(01:00:13):
at first year at eight, and I take the over
because the owner wants him. Yeah, the owner wants him.
So whether you could play or not, the owner wants them.
So it's be very interesting to see how Shador maneuvers
in a position because the head coach wanted them before,
right now the owner wants them.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
Yeah, So it's.

Speaker 4 (01:00:32):
Gonna be interesting to see just how that this whole
I'm fascinated to see how this room plays out, even
though I think this is a four or five one teams.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
To be honest, this was the only way I think
that we were going to see the real schedure because
if Sador had gone in the first round or gone
in the second round and the way that he handled
everything was rewarded like it's it's it's another conversation to say,
how telling it is that, Like the NFL has a
really high BS tolerance, really high especially like and if

(01:01:02):
there's a BS just to talent ratio. And I think
it was Marshall new House, friend of mine, former offensive lineman,
that pointed this out, like that ratio exists everywhere. So
the better you are, the more BS the teams will
put up for you. Absolutely so, by the Chador falling
and by teams needing him to kind of get quote
unquote humbled, it tells you that that talent does not

(01:01:25):
match the BS level that he comes with.

Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
That is I feel like.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
An objective fact at this point that he comes he
came with a level of BS that would also be
reinforced had he gone high. Now that he has gone low,
now you have the opportunity to say, all right, yeah,
put your head down work, there's who you are as
a player.

Speaker 4 (01:01:44):
You don't have this all figured out right, right, And
and I just and I'm not trying to I am
not absolving him of any of this, but I.

Speaker 5 (01:01:55):
There's a whole lot of emperors. What is it the
emperor new close situation with the people.

Speaker 4 (01:02:00):
Who are covering this on a daily basis, because the
only people and I don't know, I'm not I'm not
exclusive to I'm not reading everybody's stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
I don't have a clip bind a packet. Yeah, I
don't have a pick packet, right.

Speaker 4 (01:02:14):
But I was hearing across the board, this is the
first round guy, this is a worst and second round guy.
It wasn't until the two three days before the draft
and I was watching Klein Coward that he had Lanceser
line on and then Dane Brugler from the Athletic and
the way that they said Shador Sanders was like their
sixtieth best prospect.

Speaker 5 (01:02:35):
It just hit me in a different way.

Speaker 4 (01:02:37):
All but the entirety leading up to that point that
wasn't the case.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
And it was in like a lot of the mainstream
You're right, and like you saw the way that like
Schefter and and melt kiper like lost their ever loving
minds that Shador was falling.

Speaker 4 (01:02:52):
And that's because well this and the final thing I'll
say is like people have made this out to be
like there's some conspiracy. If Shador Sanders threw like Caleb
Williams and ran like Jaydon Daniels the Tennessee Titans, that
would have been doing the perfect time he danced up
to the podium, and they would have all had legendary

(01:03:14):
with the two exponent T shirts in the drafts, the
talent ratio so like that, that's.

Speaker 5 (01:03:20):
Really what it boils down to.

Speaker 4 (01:03:22):
I said this with the day he was drafted, I
think his talent knocked him out of the first round.

Speaker 5 (01:03:27):
I think everything else knocked him into Day three.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Yeah, there's a lot more than maybe we'll get to
it afterwards, but right now it's time for an update break.

Speaker 4 (01:03:39):
Jake Myers had a day today with four for four,
four extra base hits, a seven RBI as the Houston
Astros beat the Chicago White Sox.

Speaker 5 (01:03:48):
I think as far as it was eight to three, but.

Speaker 4 (01:03:51):
Again, thirteen total bases that is a Houston Astros record.

Speaker 5 (01:03:56):
Right now, the.

Speaker 4 (01:03:58):
Blue Jays have a three to one lead over the Guardians,
and top of the eighth inning, the Rockies lead the
Giants three to one. In the bottom of the sixth
tied one a piece between the Red Sox and the Twins.

Speaker 5 (01:04:10):
At the top of the sixth inning on FS one,
Marlins and.

Speaker 4 (01:04:13):
The A's also tied four piece top of the sixth
inning there.

Speaker 5 (01:04:16):
Earlier today, the Rays.

Speaker 4 (01:04:18):
Came from behind to beat the Yankees, and like I
just said, the Astros beat the White Sox eight to three.

Speaker 5 (01:04:23):
You have to repeat that, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:04:25):
I'm sorry. I'm doing a lot over here. I'm just
trying to keep it all together.

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
I don't believe you.

Speaker 5 (01:04:29):
You know, sorry, you know, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:04:31):
The White Sox also had these terrible jersey no just kidding.
Bad weather throughout the country today. We had the Mets
and the Cardinals postponed due to rain, and the Pirates
and the Padres are on a rain delay right now.
That game not yet called. And it's also raining at
the Kentucky Derby. It's fifty nine degrees as a high.

(01:04:51):
It's kind of a wet clammy day. And all nineteen
horses in this year's field of the one hundred and
fifty first Kentucky Derby sire to buy Secretariat in some
sort of way, all of them descendants by him. As
Carmen said earlier today, don't fix what ain't broke earlier.
Later on, we'll have Game sevens in both the NHL

(01:05:12):
and the NBA, the Avalanche and the Stars.

Speaker 5 (01:05:14):
Puck drops for that at eight pm Eastern.

Speaker 4 (01:05:17):
And in the NBA we will have the Clippers and
the Nuggets. There is a team still playing in LA
that until tip off.

Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
What everybody hours it's talking.

Speaker 4 (01:05:26):
About exactly despite that, you know at Kawhi Leonard he's
out there and I will have that.

Speaker 5 (01:05:31):
And then tomorrow obviously for the Warriors and the Rockets. Now,
Adam Aman.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
Yeah, back to us. Now, we're going to bring on
another dear friend of mine. He play by play EXTRAORDINAIIR
for MLB on Fox NFL on Fox. He's the voice
of the Chicago Bulls for hsn DJ. Adam Amen, I

(01:05:57):
could introduce you in so many ways, Adam, and I
could ask you about so many things.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
I could ask you about.

Speaker 6 (01:06:04):
You tell me what you want to talk about. I'm
always great to talk with you, my friend Martin with
you as well.

Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
Bright Listen.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
I could ask you about your baseball schedule. You just
got done calling Brave Cubs Braves, and you are I
could talk to you about the draft because you're so
involved in the NFL. Obviously the Bulls have now exited
the postseason.

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
There's that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
But you know what I'm going to start with, Adam,
because you don't do enough. Is the fact that Front
Office Sports this Week released in an article, went to
one of Adam's gigs as a DJ in Chicago and
talked about how you are pursuing this creative passion of
yours on top of your already insane schedule. I've seen
his calendar, ladies and gentlemen, It's insane. He fits in

(01:06:49):
time to do this at night. I've also seen DJ
sets by DJ Adam. I mean, what is your life, Adam,
and why why add to it in this way? Give
me your DJ, your DJ shpiel here because I just
it's so impressive to me.

Speaker 6 (01:07:07):
No, I appreciate you saying that it's just something that
I did for a very long time. I started doing
it when I was thirteen years old. My brother bought
me a pair of turntables and a mixer for my birthday,
Like real turntables, I had to go to record shops
and buy viny old records from dance music record shops
to be able to play across Chicago. I played my
first gig at a club when I was sixteen that

(01:07:28):
I could not get into. I couldn't get into the
club myself. My brother had to drive me and walk
in with me for me to actually be able to
play the gig itself.

Speaker 9 (01:07:37):
And I played.

Speaker 6 (01:07:40):
I did weddings, I did corporate events. It was a
job of mine for a long time. I did it
in high school. I did frat parties in college. I
worked at the radio station and did mixes in college.
And then you know, when I was twenty four, I
got hired to do this job on National TV. And
it's like, well, you don't really have time to really
focus on that. You got the career that you always wanted.

(01:08:00):
So for ten years doing this job, it's it's it's
what I was completely devoted to. And as you know,
time goes on, you get a little you know, some
some resources, you make some new friends, You're feeling a
little stagnant creatively, and I thought that this was a
good way to kind of find a little bit of
joy that didn't have to do with doing games that

(01:08:23):
that had nothing to do with broadcasting sports. It was
just something different, and I have a pretty extensive musical background,
so this set felt like a really natural re entry
back into doing something creative, and thankfully it's It's led
to some fun events and opportunities and meeting new people
and enjoying something that I really have loved for a

(01:08:44):
very long time.

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
And that you're good at. You're very good. It's infuriating
how good he is at it.

Speaker 6 (01:08:51):
I will say, like, I wouldn't want to do this
if I didn't feel like I was doing it at
least somewhat well.

Speaker 9 (01:08:58):
It's a subjective thing, but you got like.

Speaker 6 (01:09:00):
Nobody wants to do something or devote a lot of
time and effort to something that they don't feel like
they're doing well. They're satisfaction in doing something well, and
it's if I weren't at least decent added in some
people's eyes.

Speaker 9 (01:09:13):
I wouldn't want to keep pursuing it.

Speaker 6 (01:09:14):
So I appreciate you saying that.

Speaker 4 (01:09:16):
I like how Adam has somehow lived every single life
i'd like to live, but he's only a couple of
years older than me. Well, because I was a kid
yelling at the play by play, it was like that
was all I ever wanted to do, was they get
paid to watch the games. And then as I was
like throwing frat parties, I would just be like, Wow,
this DJ sucks, This DJ sucks, and now I finally
find some good ones. And then so it is definitely

(01:09:37):
an art. And so both both jobs are definitely an art,
and I appreciate the way you do both of them.
But I would say, like, what is definite question as
a play by play guy, like when was the moment
if there was a moment when you were like, oh,
this is my And I don't even know if it's
still resonation to say, well, this is my top ten moment,
like this is my like this is my uh you know.

Speaker 3 (01:09:57):
Like life doesn't get better than this.

Speaker 4 (01:09:59):
You know, ball through Buttoner's legs or this is my
moment of like this call is like the one that,
oh my goodness, I got to nail this one because
this is going to be living forever.

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
I feel like I know his answer, but go ahead
at them.

Speaker 6 (01:10:09):
I mean there, I've been fortunate because when you have
a long enough career, you hope you run into a
couple of things, and you hope you run into a
couple of moments Like I got to call a buzzer
beater in the National Championship in the women's Final four
in twenty eighteen, and that was like one of the
first big moments of my career and I had to
nail it, and we you know, we had a great

(01:10:30):
moment and we got to sit courtside for that when
Notre Dame won the National Championship. I've called Lebron James
buzzer beaters in the NBA playoffs. I've had walk off
home runs. We've had the Women's College World Series, We've
had NFL games, We've had college football, the NBA buzzer beaters.
We had a game when the Bulls beat the Lakers
a few weeks back or about a month back now,

(01:10:52):
where Josh Giddy hit a half court shot to beat LA.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
Oh.

Speaker 9 (01:10:55):
Yeah, that was the moment that we had to nail.

Speaker 6 (01:10:57):
And you know, I said probable possible.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
That's literally part of my fiances and lexicon. Now for
like mundane stuff, we just imitate Adam's call of the Josh.

Speaker 6 (01:11:08):
And then and then and then Mazie the dog turns
around and goes, what are these two people yelling about?

Speaker 4 (01:11:12):
Exactly what the Notre Dame one that was? I remember
that one, Yeah, I remember that way.

Speaker 5 (01:11:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:11:20):
Well, I got a text from a friend of mine
in South End yesterday because the Dallas Wings were playing
an exhibition game, and obviously Rique plays for the Dallas Wings.
They played in South Bend, and they played the shot
while Rique was in the building. So, like, I had
a bunch of friends of mine who were covering this game.
Let me know that that's still that's that's what you're
talking about, Martin. I think, like you hope that you

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get a moment or two like that over the course
of a career that that sticks, you know, And now
that was one of those moments that suck, and and
that's that has very little to do with us, you know.
We we try to do the moment justice and we
hope that we do a good job so that you know,
when they do play it in the in the arena
once in a while or whatever, it makes sense and
it brings back a good memory. But you just hope

(01:12:00):
you're there when the cool stuff happens, and when you
do it long enough, you do it enough. We were
lucky that we get to be there when the cool
stuff happens.

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
You didn't say the one that I thought you were
going to. What did you think I was gonna say
the Auburn.

Speaker 9 (01:12:13):
I was there for the kickstick?

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
Yeah, you were there for the kickschick.

Speaker 6 (01:12:16):
So I called I have a national radio called Chris
Davis's one hundred and nine yard touch And that was
the first like radio call that I ever had. That
was like a big deal and one of those moments
that we weren't expecting to be a part of.

Speaker 7 (01:12:27):
And then what happens.

Speaker 6 (01:12:29):
You know, it's one of the great college football games
of this century, if not maybe ever played it all time.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
I know that's why I thought Adam was going to stay.
But I guess it was radio. It wasn't TV. But
still excellent, like just insane career already. But I do
want to talk to you a little bit about uh,
Major League Baseball, and because that's.

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
The season that you're in right now.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
Your Bowls season is done, your football season is obviously
the off season. But with MLB, the this year more
than any leading up to it. I feel like Adam,
there's been a push, like a marketing push essentially to
get major League baseball back to the relevance that it
once enjoyed as America's pastime. And it's manifested in so

(01:13:11):
many different ways where like, yeah, you have the pitch
clock now for the last couple of years, and you
have like the Yankees getting their torpedo bats, and you're
trying to make this game more exciting. What have you seen,
as someone who calls this game and is so entrenched
in it that Major League Baseball, whether as a league
or even individual teams, are doing to kind of up
the excitement level.

Speaker 6 (01:13:31):
Yeah, I think first of having the Dodgers and Yankees
be in the World Series last year, that's a nice
start because you have two of the biggest markets, you
have legendary franchises, you have stars and both teams. Otani's
resurgence and emergence really over the course of the last
five six years, but really what he's done with the
Dodgers the last two seasons, being the first fifty to

(01:13:52):
fifty guy, delivering in big moments throughout the regular season
and playoffs last year, that's helped. That's kind of gotten
more attention. I think Aaron Judge being who he is,
having the type of season. He just did his eleventh
home run already this season today, so he's off to
a red hot start. He's going to be the captain
for a Team USA in the World Baseball Classic, which
is going to be coming back next year. It was

(01:14:14):
a great WVC a couple of years ago that ignited
some of the spark again for the sport. So I
think leaning into the stars the way the NBA does,
the way the NFL does, Leaning into stars has always
been a weak point I think for Major League Baseball
because it's such a regional sport. It is so provincial,
and that's reflected in how television is viewed, that's reflected

(01:14:36):
in how certain markets are viewed. I think leaning into
the stars, whether they're in a small market like a
Kansas city and looking at Bobby Wood Junior, I think
one of the top three shortstops in the game. You
could argue he's one of the top five players in
the game right now, certainly one of the great young stars,
or all the way to the big markets like New
York or LA or Chicago. Leaning into the stars, I
think is something that Major League Baseball has done a

(01:14:57):
better job of. It helps that they have emerg urged
in these moments. Yeah, but I think leaning into the
marketing of these individuals because they are so good, they
do things that even with the athleticism as high as
it's ever been, the velocity for pitchers being the way
it has been, offense is higher than it has been
in years past. We saw some low ps numbers in

(01:15:19):
twenty twenty and twenty twenty one, and now you're starting
to see that climb up again. So I think that
has a lot to do leaning into the superstars that
make this game great, that helps we have some tonight
we have Otani and Bookie Betts and Freddie Freeman and
Matt Olsen and you know, like there are guys on
these two teams are doing Braves and Dodgers on Fox
tonight that we're going to lock in on and hopefully

(01:15:40):
they perform on a big stage.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
Love it well, Thank you so much for joining us, Adam,
and we'll talk to you soon. You are listening to
Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (01:15:51):
Again. You're not doing anything to incentivize me to start
the show, and You'll.

Speaker 8 (01:15:55):
Be honest, I almost hit haul of notes instead.

Speaker 3 (01:15:58):
Oh that would have been good too.

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
It was going to be out touch honestly, Okay, that's
I'm I'm like a sixty five year old man when
it comes to my music tastes in so many ways.
But then I'll also like bust out the Yan Yang Twins.
I was listening to Italian techno music on the way here.
We spanned the gamut.

Speaker 8 (01:16:12):
But this deal with his calls for then next week,
oh some rush, Oh god, you really want to get
in your touch with your old's with your sixty five.

Speaker 3 (01:16:22):
Sixty five year old man.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
Yeah, yeah, gosh, that doesn't sound right speaking of middle
aged men. How's that for a segue, Martin. I want
to talk real quick, just about this whole Jeff Ulbrick,
Jack's oldbricks situation. The math ain't math, and Martin, and
I'll tell you why so. Jeff o'brick, the defensive coordinator

(01:16:46):
for the Atlanta Falcons. His son was the one that
accessed Jeff's iPad somehow, some way got Shuder Sanders number
and prank called him as if he was getting drafted
earlier obviously than he did. Jack's the twenty one year
old son apologized. Jeff Olbrick apologized.

Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
The league has now fined the Atlanta Falcons.

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
Two hundred and fifty thousand dollars and Jeff Olbrick one
hundred thousand dollars personally. And the way that my father
would have taken the belt to my you know what,
no matter how old I was and I cost him
one hundred grand, I would have been cut off from inheritance.
All of that The issue for me here, a twenty
one years old is old enough to know better me

(01:17:31):
that that information that is so heavily guarded, and it's
usually the information is password protected. You have to have
a certain log in from a certain IP address in
order to access it. All of this stuff because it
contains really sensitive information about these prospects, not just their
phone number, but usually their addresses, their medical records, all

(01:17:52):
of that kind of stuff. It's kept under lock and key.
So much of this information too, is kept from people
in the organize itself. Like as someone who's worked for
a team and been through drafts, we don't get the
information on these prospects until like right before the team
drafts them, right, and it's withheld from us. And I'm like,

(01:18:13):
and we have a working purpose for wanting information like that,
whether it's again like a phone number is something that
would be really great. So you can get on the
phone with these guys and be like, Hey, once you
get here, we want to do this about this.

Speaker 3 (01:18:24):
That information has.

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
Kept secret from people in the organization with a working purpose.
Now you're gonna tell me a twenty one year old
for S's and GE's decides, Oh, I'm gonna just take it,
and I'm gonna I'm gonna just do a prank call
with my friends.

Speaker 4 (01:18:38):
It also like the kids in college student in Florida,
right who happen to be home. This is a phone
number that Shador in his live stream said that he
got specifically.

Speaker 3 (01:18:48):
For that exactly. That's the thing.

Speaker 4 (01:18:50):
So without knowing the order of operations, it just feels
like the explanation this is what Jordan Hudson should have done.

Speaker 3 (01:18:57):
Just stick with your.

Speaker 4 (01:18:58):
Explanation, even if it doesn't add up, stick with the
Just stick with it because nobody cares about this anymore.
The fines have been done in Levy and so on.
But to me, the mad ain't math.

Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
No, And I.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
Go back and forth being like, does should this have
cost Jeff Ulbrick a suspension or something along those lines?

Speaker 3 (01:19:15):
But you are messing with this money and we all
know that's the gret think it should have cost the
Falcons a draft pick.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
I like, yes, something like like stuff I would I
did as a team reporter could have cost the team
a draft pick, So good Lord that this is deserving
of that too. The whole thing is just like I
think there's more to the story. I don't really care,
but that part of it I don't care about. The
part I care about is there needs to be more
accountability on this on the on the behalf of Jeff,

(01:19:41):
of Jack's and of the Atlanta Falcons, because this is
very sensitive information that in a worst scenario, could have
ended up so much like it was.

Speaker 5 (01:19:50):
His phone number.

Speaker 4 (01:19:50):
What if somebody found a way to stole his identity exactly,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
Well, Martin, thank you for doing this with me again,
pulling double duty.

Speaker 3 (01:19:57):
You're going on the next show.

Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
I really appreciate it. Thank thank you all for listening today.
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