Chris Plank & Arnie Spanier React To The Commanders Doink Kicking In The Game Winner, Talk Shop On The Rest Of The Wildcard, Arnie's Crazy Picks, And Much More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
No, let's go, stinking genius, Let's go, baby boy, let's go,
let's go. I wanted to start before we dove into
I'd be Todd Bowles last game as the Tampa Bay
Buccaneers coach. We're tied up at thirty with less than
a minute ago. Our thoughts are with our friends in
the LA area. Obviously, we were talking with Patrick Sweek,

(00:27):
our producer Mary Mack, who is back after her overseas vacation,
and you're gonna hear from the Great Steve to Sega
throughout the evening. But just Arnie, I I saw the
pictures that our buddy Jeff Schwartz had tweeted from Palisades
High I know, yeah, that's where you went to high school.
Just devastating and really, it sometimes sounds hollow when you
say you're in our thoughts unless you can do anything.

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So hopefully over the next few hours we can serve
as that distraction. We can bring you some fun. We're
going to talk some football, but our thoughts, our prayers,
our hearts are with those who have been affected by
these wildfires that hit really close to home. For our
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Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah, you know, Chris, I tell you it was tough
because at first you started hearing about the high school
was totally engulfed in flames, and then that didn't turn
out to be the case, which is good. And then
I saw some video that one of the reporters, one
of the kids got onto the campus and took some pictures,
and you know, it was very promising. But what has

(01:24):
happened in the Palisades. And my parents had a house
in Brentwood when we grew up, and it is just horrible.
I mean, all those homes up in the hills, it's
just countless homes after homes, and it's just it just
hits home, it really does. And I feel bad. I
was on Facebook and I saw a lot of my

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old classmates on there, a lot of people that went
to Pali, a lot of people in Brentwood, and I
just feel for them, and you're right, I just feel
you know, our thoughts and prayers is really not enough,
and this is going to be a long time before
they are able to rebuild what's going on up there.
So it's tough. I'm all the way out here in

(02:07):
Vermont and they're fighting the battle out there on the
palis as in Brentwood and as well as Alta Dina
and other places in Los Angeles. But we do think
of them, There's no doubt about that.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
So I just wanted to make sure that everybody was
aware where our hearts are and our minds are today.
So sometimes if we see them a little bit scattered,
that's why. But we are definitely focused on the playoffs
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gonna win this game? Huh?

Speaker 3 (02:45):
How about this? I well, if they make the field goal,
right I ever, what first and ten tied to twenty?

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Yeah yeah. Secondly, you never know what's going to happen
in the field goal attempt, so you can't make it automatic.
It could be a bad snap or anything. But it
looks like right now a high percentage. What is the
win percentage? I know?

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Actually, look hold on, I hate when just for those
that haven't been with the show, too terribly away I
despise win percentages, and there's a very reason.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Ohh you kidding me. They're supposed to win whenever they're
up by one with five seconds ago in the game.
Thanks right now, Currently, Arnie, it is eighty two point
five percent.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Wow, I thought to be like ninety seven percent.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Well, Austin their kicker. Remember, he's missed a few, right,
He missed an extra point earlier this year that allowed
him to stay, that actually cost him a game. He
missed an extra point and missed a field goal. Oh,
it's not even Cyber anymore, it's Gonzales. He was gone
after that. Gosh, Gonzales and Cybern look alike.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Holy smokes.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
But so they're turning to Gonzales, where kicking has been
an issue for him a majority of the season. But
Zane's been perfect tonight. So we'll see Todd Bowles. Oh,
by the way, that's just jumped up to ninety two
point eight percent.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
There you go, that's get yeah, there you go.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Three seconds left and went from eighty four percent to
ninety two point eight percent with Zane Gonzalez. So I
don't know where I thought Cyber was still kicking form.
I must be drunk tonight, But here we go Washington
with a chance to win and advance in the playoffs.
We still we still have another game to go tomorrow night.
It's gonna be in Arizona between the Vikings and the Rams.
And we got Matt Verderam coming on with us in

(04:23):
the next second segment to completely break things down. Both
teams are out of timeouts. So whatever happens here is
gonna be ballgame. I gotta have a good snap. Your
holder is Tressway, he's your punter as well. Oh did
he really?

Speaker 3 (04:38):
What?

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Through?

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Off? The right? Up right?

Speaker 2 (04:42):
And in Washington wins?

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Can you believe it? And it looked you know what
I'm saying, even if it hits, it out a chance
to get in and that's exactly what happened.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
We're we got a lot to get to on this
game time. We finally got ourselves a quote unquote buzzer
beater in the nf fell after having the previous but
three four playoff games pretty one side. I mean, the
Eagles and the Packers a little tighter, right, but despite
falling behind seven zip, the Bills absolutely just smoked the

(05:14):
Broncos today and then neither game yesterday was all that
entertaining Ravens beating up on the Steelers in a rock fight,
and then the Texans, uh just kind of pulled away
from the Chargers. Can't wait to get Sager's perspective on
that as the show rolls on. But a lot of
fingers I think are going to be pointed in Tampa
after this one, arn't he because it seemed as if
they were in really good shape, had to turnover on

(05:35):
a on a handoff, but were able to overcome that.
Kind of shocking to see the way things turned in
this football game where kind of felt like Tampa was
in control and Washington just never went away.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Are you want criticism? Yeah? No, I would have given
you I had Washington lost in dan Quinn going forward
on how many times did they turn away twice? Was it?
Was it twice or three?

Speaker 4 (05:56):
Though?

Speaker 3 (05:56):
I think it was twice. I think it was twice.
I think it was. But in the fourth quarter, one
with fourteen minutes left, one with like ten or eleven
roughly right around that, and you're down by four. You
want to talk about criticisms that goodness they win, because
otherwise you would have heard that for years to come.

(06:16):
Good victory by them. That was unbelievable. Tampa, they moved
the ball. I think, you know, you feel like they
were always up by like double digits or something, but
that wasn't the case. Baker Mayfield did everything he could.
But Washington give them credit, and give Daniel's credit. Rookie
quarterbacks in the first round of the playoffs are just horrible,

(06:39):
absolutely horrible. And he just crushed it. The good Chris,
he was fantastic.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, they went for it, did Washington. Whenever they were
down seventeen to thirteen. They went for it on fourth
down and didn't get it right, and let's see, that
was fourth and goal from the Oh gosh, that was
just a terrible break. And then they went for it

(07:05):
with seven point fifty to go in the game and
uh didn't get it. So two really and one of
those drives carried over from the third quarter into the
fourth quarter. So a couple of really tough decisions for Washington.
But it it doesn't end up hurting the Marty. They
still find a way to win this football game somehow,
some way.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
Well, they've turned around their fortune ever since the sale
of the team. It feels like that aura about them
is completely gone. And they're the new Washington team. They're
they're they're new, and they're exciting, and they've got their
franchise quarterback. And I want to see how far they're
gonna go.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Oh my gosh, what a mess. What a mess for Tampa.
I can't help, but wonder if let's see where was
the play call near the end of the game where
they they I don't know what they were thinking the
fumble that led the go ahead touchdown.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
I mean, I was Baker Mayfield. They said, yeah, perhaps
that Baker may wanted to have faked it.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Right, and then the receiver kind of It's almost looked
like he was late getting it there.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
It could have been that. Also, I don't think it
was the center's falls I know.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
No, no, no, I mean he was trying to blame
the center.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Trico, Yeah, Tariko did at first.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Hey, if there is any way you can avoid blaming
Baker Mayfield for anything, I think I'm okay with that.
So Arnie, if you want to go with it, I'm
here with you. But solid, solid by Washington. So we
got a good game. I think tomorrow is gonna be
a really good game too. But what of Matt Verner
ram as we said, is coming in right off the top,
coming in hot with us here in just a bit.
Matt had been a regular with us for the longest time.

(08:41):
Then he got big time, and I thought, all right, well,
let's go, let's go, let's let's let's.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Tag him in tonight.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
And I also thought you had been hacked by some
cryptocurrency thing, but we'll talk about that later. I again,
you're not always gonna have good first round playoff games.
We've seen this year in and year out, right, But
I think when you get a game like tonight and
the excitement over tomorrow night, it kind of makes up
for it all.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
And there were moments.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
There was a moment in the Steelers game where you're
watching it and you thought, hey, they got a chance
to get back in this game. There were the moments
early for the Broncos where they just couldn't hang with
the Buffalo Bills. And then there was this whole game
tonight where you wonder, did Todd Bowles make some decisions
that might have ended up costing him his job Here
this evening, because this is a Tampa team that feels
really good about themselves, right, and you should feel good

(09:25):
about yourself in that division is the only thing that's
lacking the head coach. And I think that this is
the same question that is being asked in Pittsburgh right
now for teams that lost in the first round of
the playoffs, and Denver obviously just getting started with Peyton.
I don't think they feel that way quite yet. After
you know, one season with the Chargers and Hardboss since
he turned him around, but in two places that lost Arnie,

(09:48):
I think they're kind of looking around and thinking, boy,
where are we going as a franchise. And I feel
like the Buccaneers tonight and I feel like the Steelers
yesterday have a lot of questions to answer about where
they're heading and if these are the guys to get
them there.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
Well, I definitely agree with John the Steelers, I'm not
so sure. I'm pumping the brakes a little bit on
top of especially yeah, especially because they've got their you know,
they've got their quarterback, and I think they're gonna be
in a pretty good shape. So I'm not too worried.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
And you're in a division where it doesn't look like
anyone's gonna run away from you in it.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
Right right exactly, So I'm okay with them Pittsburgh, though,
if I'm a Steelers fan, I'm beside myself. I'm like,
another year no playoff win? What is it like eight
years now since since their last Super Bowl? I think
they're five and ten in the playoffs. That's just not acceptable,
And like I said, with the last eight years, I

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don't think they have a playoff victory. Something's got to
be done. I know everybody loves Tomlin and he's a
great coach, but you can't fire the team so somebody else,
and you can't get rid of the owner, so that
just leaves that coach and I think maybe it's time
to make a change there, but that that's not going
to happen, I guess.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
So with this win by Washington tonight, this means that
all the games next week are set.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
Right.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
The Lions will get Washington because they'll be the lowest
seeded team left, and then you'll have the Texans and
the Chiefs. According to the schedule that was just shown
on NBC, that'll be the first game Saturday, Saturday game, right,
the Lions and the Commanders, and then the Texas and
the Chiefs. Texans Day game. Oh okay, because they say
TBD Flex game. What does that mean that to saga the.

Speaker 5 (11:25):
Game literally in the last minute or two. The NFL
has made it official that the first game Saturday will
be the Chiefs home game against the Texans, which puts
Fox TV getting Saturday Night Washington at Detroit. So we
know that regardless of who wins Tomorrow night, the Vikings
Rams winner will be going to Philadelphia for the first

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game next Sunday. And by the way, that's not an
early that's not a one pm Eastern for the next
couple of weeks. We're moving to three pm Eastern for
Philadelphia's home game next Sunday, which means next Sunday night
we get the battle of the two that are going
for MVP. It's Lamar Jackson against Josh l and next
Sunday Baltimore and Buffalo.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Oh, I looked at that wrong. I thought for a
moment it might be seven thirty Eastern. That's gonna be
six thirty eastern. So that's right around the same start
time from MOS Sunday night football games.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Maybe even a little bit earlier. Earlier.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Earlier, Yeah, about thirty minutes earlier. All my stupid site
was looking at the ESPN site and here it is
eight thousand NFL reporters have tweeted it. So just to
reset with channels real quick. Carney Houston at Kansas City
the early game Saturday, and by early that's four thirty eastern.
That's going to be on ESPN and ABC, and then
the primetime Tilt the NFC Divisional Round game Commanders at

(12:40):
Lions will be at eight o'clock Eastern and that's going
to be on Fox. Then on Sunday NBC we'll have
the early games, which will be either the Vikings or
the Rams of the Eagles, and then CBS will have
that primetime game on Sunday night six thirty eastern. Ravens
at Bill's s right, Sorry about that, Arnt. You just
want to be Clearifox.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
Okay, and I know you were talking about all the
ball I know it's our, uh not only our job,
at everybody's job to complain. That's what we do. We were
complaining about the first round in the college football playoffs.
I'm just wondering, is there anything you would have changed
that would have made this more exciting? I guess adding
an eighth team is what is what I wanted to do.
Chris add the eighth team.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
He is one of the Dolphins, And I still don't
think you got.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
In forget about that. You got that eight team, so
you're gonna have nobody with a pie that that's got
to be the first thing. And then I think you
got to rank them by record regardless with a division victory,
instead of putting them ahead where you have like an
eight and eight team ahead of a team over twelve
and four.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Oh, so you're finally jumping off that it doesn't really
matter about a divisional team having a home game just
because they won their division.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
Right, you're gonna get it well, reward you with a
playoff entry, but you don't just get to have a
home game if you don't have a good record. That yeah,
from I'm done, I know with these, especially this year
when we see a team like Minnesota with so many
victories and having to go on the road. That's just horrible.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
It's changed, man, Chris, I know, right, New information means
new opinions. That's the promo that we hear like eight
thousand times. So when we come back to the tirerack
dot Com Studios, let's get going here on a Sunday night,
our buddy Matt Verdram is going to join us. Instant
reaction to the Commander is advancing with a walkoff win
over Tampa in Tampa and we got our second round set,

(14:28):
but we got a big one coming up tomorrow night,
and we'll preview it with MATTENX right here on Fox
Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2 (14:45):
Man, we were we were talking today Arnie and I
and Patrick, our producer, and we said, it's been too
long since we've chatted with our buddy, Matt Vertram, So
let's all get smart tonight. Let's all get learned. We're
pumped to be joined by Matt Verdram, one of the
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(15:06):
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right here on Fox Sports Radio. Quite a finish Matt,
And what a wild stat to think that Jane Daniels
becomes the first rookie quarterback to win a game on
the road. The Commanders have just been This is shel
They've been all year long. If you if you haven't
watched them, this is it. This is the show you've

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been missing all year.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
Even in games they've lost, they've had crazy comeback to
stand like against Dallas earlier this year. They've they have
they have played probably the most fighting scasion in terms
of the end of the game of any team in football.
And they you know, look they survive another week and
how they go to Detroit. It's one of those games
where there's royal pressure on you. I mean, you know,

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nobody's gonna really pick them to win that game. Not no,
I disrespect to them. It's the lines Backell this year
and now it's uh, you know, you go up there
and you hope for the best and see what happens.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
You know, Matt I said this at the time. I
had no problem with dan Quinn going and forward on
fourth down both times. I know you would have been
criticized like crazy had they lost, but I was okay
with him going forward on fourth down.

Speaker 5 (16:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:15):
Look, I'm even though I'm younger, I guess I'm more
old tool in the sense a lot of times I
feel like, you know, take the point, keep it moving,
but at the end of the game, the last time
you went for it, I don't have any problem for like, look,
at that point, you've kind of committed to that mindset
and if you kick there, it's a weird message to send.
I don't have any problem with him saying, look, this

(16:36):
is how we're going to play this, We're going for it,
and Daniels makes a throw, they take the lead and
the way they go. But I think I'll say this
for dan Quinn and then sometimes you see coaches do
the opposit this. He went into the game of the
mindset this is how we're gonna play, and he's stuck
with it, and at least he didn't waffle.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
To me, that's the worst how I guess maybe impacted.
Could the coaching cycle be by some of these first
round playoff games? By that, I mean, I mean there's
no way Pittsburgh's gonna make a move, right, Could Tampa
pull a plug after tonight? I mean, what what do
you kind of think? And do we have the vacancies
that we're gonna have?

Speaker 4 (17:17):
Yeah, I think so, Like, I don't know, are the
other eight teams really like I mean ninety the like O'Connor.
Let me say er see can be like, is there
really a world where the Bills are going to fire McDermott,
you know if they lose. You know, I thought that
they lost to Denver somehow maybe, you know, I think
the I think the only way at this point one

(17:37):
of these guys loses their job is it there's just
an epic ballout in this in this division, right you know,
somehow Baltimore went up the Buffalo and won like forty
five three or something. You know, then then maybe as
far as the guys have lost the log card rounds,
I just don't I don't think any of those guys
deserve to be fired. I mean, Bowles is one of

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the division. Every year, he's been there a couple of years.
They weren't expected to do it, you know. I just
I think at this point, you know, those guys, you
know you're not you're not getting rid on a floor,
You're not you know, you're not getting I just I
think everybody's safe.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
So I zero playoff wins since twenty eighteen. That's that's
okay for Pittsburgh fans. That's Tomlin that's that works out.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
Okay, Well, look, I wrote a whole comun about this
on SI last night where I said, look, if I
were the Steelers, I would sit Tomlin down having having
an exit meeting and basically say, look, I'm trading DJ
Watt this all season, and I'm trading George Pickers, and
we're rebuilding this team because we're never going to win

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with this team. It's not happening. Walton pickings each every
year left on the deals lot. It's thirty years old.
And I say, look time now. If I can, if
I can take Cam Hayward, he's gone. If I can
sit Patrick Queen, he's gone, I would I would rip
that think down sud. I would not bring back either
one of those quarterbacks. I mean would. I would basically

(19:01):
bought him out, and I would tell Mike Tomlin, if
you want to be here through that, that's fine, But
if you don't want to be the organist, trade Jo
because I'm sure a team with the Chicago Bears or
the New York Jets it would would be very interested
in his services and provided Tom an interest in going there.
But I yeah, look, I don't have a problem either
way with it. But I would tear the team down.

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If they just run this thing back and go nine
to eight this year, that's a disaster. That's way worse
sitting them tearing it down and going four and thirteen.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Non playoffs.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Here real quick, before we get back to the games,
Mike Rabel officially becomes the head coach of the New
England Patriots today. I'm not gonna lie. I'm a little
bit surprised to hear that. You know, this wasn't just
a slam dunk with what the Ben Johnson report might
have been in Chicago. The Bears want to talk to
a lot of different people, and it seems like Tom
Brady's selling them hard on Vegas. What do you kind

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of make of the Rabel higher and the late next
Domino to four all if you will in the coaching caresel.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
Well, look, I mean, not not to be glibed, but
to be very serious. I think when the Patriots decided
to interview Byron left Wich and Pet Hamilton to satisfied
the runny roll, they basically gave him see Yester to
the NFL and just said this is what we're doing.
We're getting Mike Rabel. I mean, they they announced that
they interviewed both those guys simultaneously, like in the same tweet.

(20:24):
They didn't even they didn't pretend to date. Now it
was like a separate deal. It was to me, it
was such a sham. They were always going to hire
a Vrabel and crap, and we can hire a Vrabel
because of them on the history there and everything else. Now, look,
I think the big question now is with Ben Johnson,
where did he go? Because he's kind of the apple
and everybody's eye, and you know, you start looking at

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it and going all right, look, if you're the you know,
if you're the Jets, you know Aaron Glenn, there's the
history there. Now, you know, they just had a defensive coach.
A lot of times you'll see teams kind of go
the other way. Maybe they decided to go with another
one with Glenn, uh, you know, they speak no lo.
He's had a few interviews, only sixty five. The only
coach has ever been hired after the age of sixty

(21:05):
five were sharing. So I kind of cut against the grain.
But I think, you know, we're probably yeah, teams get eliminated.
We're going to see more and more coaches get hired
here in pretty rapid succession.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
You know, Matt Chris will tell you. I fall for
all the rumors out there. I saw all the rumors
about Dion the Vegas, Dion the Vegas. I'm like, well,
it's a done deal. He's going to be the head.
I knew this was going to happen until I saw
a report that said the Raiders have zero interest in
Dion Sanders. So what is it. Do they have interest
or do they not have interest?

Speaker 4 (21:39):
It's the Raiders. So like saying that anything's concrete is insane.
Although Tom Brady's I think bringing some sounity and all that,
but I I would say this about Dion and this
isn't anything. It's just it is what it is. I
can't imagine an NFL team right now with him having
two years of Colorado saying yeah, why don't you come

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in and run the team. I mean, Dion is a polarizing
guy and he's an outspoken guy, and a lot of
NFL owners are terrified of that. Now, there are some guys,
some owners who will love that because he'll get attention
and he's a lightning rod. You could stick him on
a billboard and you can sell tickets and all this stuff,
but I find it hard to play. If he he

(22:22):
was eleven games in Colorado next year, then I think
you can sell a little bit more. I just think
right now, a lot of these teams, if you're the Raiders,
if you're the Jets, if you're the Bears, you're Jackson,
you need to calm the situation that you need to
bring in a guy who's a proverbial adult in the room.
It's not he's not an adult, but they need somebody

(22:43):
who can come in there and calm the waters. I
don't know that bringing in Dion, especially like if you're
the Raiders, then what does that mean if you're gonna
move having an Earth to get George Sanders and what
if that doesn't work? Like in Fire his dad. But
there's just there's a lot of stuff that goes into that.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yeah, by the way, the last time whenever a team
wanted an adult in the room, the Browns traded for
Deshaun Watson, so we got, Hey, who disappointed you the
most this weekend?

Speaker 4 (23:13):
Well, I guess I would have to say, I'll just
go to an individual. Herbert. Justin Herbert, listen, I thought
that game was a coin flip, so like I'm not
even killed the Chargers troll losing the game. I thought
that was probably the biggest goring flip of the weekend.
But if you want to sit at the big kids table,
you can't play that game. I'm sorry you. You were

(23:33):
at a conference who you have Mahomes, Allen Jackson, and
Herbert I mean and Burrow. Those four guys are going
to be just trading off who goes to the super
Bowl for the next decade. And then you had that
second tier of guys like a Herbert, Anna Lawrence and
when he's healthy, Tua and some of these other guys

(23:54):
Stroud like guys who was like, they're trying to get
that group. You can't go play at Houston team. Now
let's call it what it is. Is not that good
and throw four interceptions and look atrocious. As in the
first half of that game, the Chargers had every opportunity
to win every I mean, the Detectors were throwing the

(24:14):
ball and they're fumbling. The Chargers could be easily been
up thirteen to sixteen to nothing. That game's over, and
yet Herbert throws a bad pick, the game turns, and
then he just completely falls apart. In the second half.
I mean three of those part receptions completely on it.
One was that the other three were and I just
think you'll walk away from that game. See, he's a
good player, he's talented, he's got an incredible skill set.

(24:36):
But if he really going to threaten those top four
guys in the AFCA, probably not well.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
If he can't sit at the big boy tables, Jordan
Love can either.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
Nope, no, I mean us to Jordan Love at least
won a playoff game, and he played really well against
San Francisco Ast year. That being said, Jordan Loves got
paid a fortune this offseason, fifty five a year. And
he now, look, I get he was hurt. I get
he had some issues, was hurt from week one on.
He did not play well. There's no other way to say.

(25:06):
He did not play well. He wasn't terrible throughout the year,
but was pretty mundane, got up and down and then
in this playoff game. And by the way, he's going
to get off the hook because they want Jalen Hurts
as bad as Jordan Love was, except for the fact
that Jalen Hurts is the void of throwing a pick.
But I mean that was that was not a Mona
Lisa offensively, but look, yeah, love goes home, and you know,

(25:30):
if you're the Packers, you got to go into this offseason.
I'll get this thing and go all right, we've been
the seventh seed for the last two years, Like we've
got the lines in this division, Minnesota's in this division.
You know, Chicago who knows the lover get right an
that coach, Like, how are we going to get to
the point where we are legitimately contending? Because right now
they're a playoff intertality. But that's all they are. They're

(25:52):
not They're not more than that. They're the NFC's version
of like a trump up Steelers game?

Speaker 3 (25:58):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Oh, I'm sorry, you go, We're out of time, My bad. Hey,
uh a bit real quick before we let you go?

Speaker 3 (26:03):
Were you uh?

Speaker 2 (26:04):
You fired up about tomorrow? And I think it's going
to be a great matchup.

Speaker 4 (26:08):
I think it's actual game. I think I think it
is potential to be the best game of the weekend.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
I did too. I think it's gonna be fun.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
Matt Verdorant, good to catch back up, buddy, appreciate your
time as always in a keep up the great work
over at S I.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
Thanks Matt, take care.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
There you go. Matt Verderant, whoa s I he's been
all over the place. Good to see him getting Wait up, Pike,
what are you reading a book like a J?

Speaker 3 (26:29):
Brown? What's wrong with you? Man?

Speaker 2 (26:31):
No, you didn't really ask a question. You just go
Jordan Love. I didn't really know that was your question,
all right, No, no, no, I just listen.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
I was trying to make sure you get I thought
you were reading a book.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
I last, Yes, we heard the joke the first time.

Speaker 4 (26:45):
Laugh.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
I'm sorry, Try one more time, Try one more time.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
Were you reading a book like my bad? My bad?

Speaker 2 (26:54):
I'm sorry, Yeah, I was.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
You know, I waste my best stuff on you.

Speaker 6 (26:58):
No.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
I literally was there like she's gonna say something. I
better jump in here. Well, we're coming to you live
from the tirerack dot Com studios, and the man who
was our constant, Steve de Sager, comes rolling in because
everything is a final in the world of sports.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
What's going on, Steve?

Speaker 5 (27:12):
Hello, we had playoff wins in the NFL from Washington,
Philadelphia and Buffalo. And by the way, good Charger comments there,
and we should state the obvious first, that was a
winnable game. Saturday and quarterback Justin Herbert was not good.
What I'll push back on is what I've heard a
little this weekend, and if that game from yesterday is
even thought of tomorrow, this should not cut up. It

(27:33):
come up in the weekend review tomorrow. People are trying
to fold in. You know, he lost a game of
Jacksonville in the playoffs a couple of years ago. People,
did you even see the game a couple of years ago?

Speaker 2 (27:44):
At Jacksonville.

Speaker 5 (27:45):
They're up twenty seven to nothing before halftime and the
defense literally could not get a stop the entire second
half the last five drives with the Jacksonville jag whereas
they scored on all of them, including the game winning
field goal on the final play. If you sc there
were thirty points in an NFL game, you should win.
I'm not sure that's all on the quarterback. Just for

(28:05):
the record, but in the bigger picture for this year's Chargers,
it was just year one with coach Jim Harbaugh. There
was an immediate and obvious change for the good with
the defense. Ironically, since Brandon Staley, a former defensive coordinator,
was the defensive play caller and his defenses were bottom
five in the league all three years, either in run
defense or pass defense. Chargers last year, remember they went

(28:27):
for it as far as cap space and the season
was a complete flop. In twenty twenty three coaching change
and then after having to cut salaries for this year,
they had no playmakers at the skill positions on offense
except for Herbert and the drafting of wide receiver Lad
mccauckie turned out great. The drafted an offensive lineman in
the first round worked out great. They won eleven games,
but in the playoff game yesterday they.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
Get talking win. Am I missing something.

Speaker 5 (28:50):
That I'm getting to the point?

Speaker 3 (28:52):
Congratulations and it sounds like you won THATAI.

Speaker 5 (28:55):
It's five points in the playoff game yesterday, it was
painfully obvious what they don't have yet. They don't have
a James Cook like Buffalo. They don't have a Nico
Collins like Houston, et cetera, et cetera. What all these
other playoff teams have The Chargers still have those voids
in the roster now. The defense did rank number one
and fewest points allowed this year. Next year they won't

(29:17):
have a last play schedule play. They should be a
better roster on offense than this year. There were a
lot of games, including yesterday, we're mid game, people were saying, man,
this is a rock fight, so maybe that part will
change next year. But it just became obvious way before
the game was over yesterday. Oh, this is the playoffs.
This this is okay? Yeah, all right, we see that

(29:38):
kind of like Denver seventh seed, the last team into
the playoffs. But it's the first year with that quarterback.
This is not a finished product. He got that long
touchdown pass in the opening minutes, didn't score again the
rest of the day. They were down ten to seven
at the half at Buffalo Bill's thirty one to seven
the final. Next Sunday, it is Buffalo hosting Baltimore Josh
Allen against Lamar Jack and the Buffalo Bills at home

(30:01):
are nine to oh. Philadelphia at oh Buffalo pit Bills.
Oh that's the keep Bills if there ever was one.
Philadelphia beat Green Bay today on Fox twenty two to ten,
Saquon Barkley one hundred and nineteen yards rushing Jalen hurtzback
from the concussion at two touchdown passes. Saturday night, Washington
at Detroit on Fox TV in the divisional round. The

(30:23):
Commanders advance, winning their six game in a row. It
was twenty three twenty at Tampa Bay tonight, winning on
a thirty seven yard field goal on the final play,
it hit the upright and went through. The Rams quote
home game will be in Arizona on Monday night against
the Vikings. There are I heard twenty buses going from
La to Arizona. There will be thousands of Rams fans

(30:43):
for that game. The winner of Vikings Rams tomorrow will
go to Philadelphia for a game next Sunday at three
pm Eastern time. We know the divisional round weekend will
be starting with the Chiefs home game against Houston Saturday afternoon.
The Patriots officially hired Mike Rabel as their new head coach.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Becky Hey, thanks, Steve Sega will have updates all night
long here on Fox Sports Radio. Arnie, who disappointed you
the most this week? And you seem to like the
idea of just picking on the quarterbacks there Herbert.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
And Justin Herbert was was a big time disappointment, especially
the way he looked early. Chris, he was zipping the
ball in there. I'm like, Okay, this is gonna be good.
And you know I've been picking on the Texans all
year long. CJ. Strotted had a miserable year where those
thirty two points came from after they were down six
nothing at the Sega's right or batt Verderm, which he

(31:31):
was right. It could have been thirteen nothing sixteen twenty one.
I mean, who knows if they would have just had
a little bit of luck. And after six nothing, they
were just not existing to a defense that was not
all that overwhelming this year. So I very disappointed with
Justin Herbert and the Chargers also.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
I was I think that was it for me. There's
a part of me that was disappointed in the Steelers,
but I had said this when I I watched them
earlier this year, and maybe part of it was because
I was kind of in a fight with one of
my friends.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
I was a Steelers fan too.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
But they beat the Raiders in like week seven or
eight or early in the season, and I remember coming
away from this this was even before Russell Wilson had
taken over, and I thought, I just don't know how
good they are now. They proceeded to stuff it in
my face because they won their next four games, including
wins over the Commanders and the Ravens during that stretch,

(32:28):
But aren't he something bad happened to them down the
stretch this season? They a lost five of their last
seven games in the regular season, including an embarrassing loss
in Cleveland of the Browns, and then they hit one
big play yesterday to make the game tight. But honestly,
it just wasn't very competitive yesterday between the Ravens and
the Steelers. So maybe it's a little bit unfair, but

(32:52):
a Steelers team that was sitting there at one point
in the season, what are you looking at eight and two?
To finish the way that they did and to be
in the play and the first round of the playoffs
is just incredibly shocking.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
I think in a lot of ways. You know, we
talk about where these quarterbacks are gonna end up in
the draft. I'm so curious to see where these veterans
are going to end That is Sam Dartle good to
stay in Minnesota Worre's cousins. I saw there was a
rumor today, I can't remember off the top of my head,
I might have retweeted off to look that up about
him going somewhere. Pittsburgh to me is intriguing. I guess
they got to keep Russell Wilson, don't they because of

(33:26):
the money they're paying them so.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
Well, it's only a one year deal. They got him,
so they've they've got to do something. I mean, they've
got to do with him now. They don't have any
time to wait on Russell Wilson.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
We lost.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
People want him right exactly. All right, when we come
back to the tyrack dot com studios, let's dive into
your reaction at stinking genius one at Plank Show. Everybody,
go follow us on exit Fox Sports Radio. We'll get
your thoughts on the opening weekend of the NFL playoffs.
And look, we're forty five minutes into the show and
we haven't even touched on the wild semi finals and
college football that's coming up on a busy night. Aren't

(34:02):
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Speaker 1 (34:04):
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Speaker 2 (34:16):
All right, it's Arny in Plank coming to you live
from the Tyraq dot com studios. Okay, if I'm gonna
be mister negative, let me be mister positive here Arnie, Okay,
go ahead, And I do want to point out that
our buddy UCLA Dodger Frank had kind of beat me
to my topic tonight. He had a poll up Worst
Weekend Justin Herbert, Mike Tomlin, Todd Bowles are sportsbooks right now.

(34:38):
It's in a four way tie. So you can go
vote there if you would like. I'm mighty, that's actually good.
That's a good poll. But who really impressed you? What
really caught you right now? I'm a prisoner of the moment,
and I would say seeing Jane Daniels on the road
in a playoff game and becoming the first rookie to
win a road playoff game, that's pretty awesome.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
That's pretty awesome, you know. Take this in the can siteration.
Also that I didn't think Baltimore was all that great
in their victory over Pittsburgh. I just thought Pittsburgh was
pretty crappy, to be honest with you. And the same
thing goes with Philadelphia. Philadelphia was like Jalen Hurts was
all that impressive too. I think Washington was the best
of the bunch. But what Buffalo did have to give
you up a quick seven and then doing nothing after

(35:20):
that was quite impressive, so the Bills were extremely impressive
this weekend.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Also a couple of early submissions from all y'all to
the program Tonight, Scott writes, I'm most disappointed in that
Houston fan base. The stadium was packed, yet the way
it sounded on TV you could hear a pin drop.
Absolutely no atmosphere. I know they won, but that has
to really make players and coaches feel awful when the

(35:44):
fans don't care. Now an I had a lot of
Houston fans, they care, But of all the atmospheres, even
thinking about the college games this weekend, none of them
seemed like I needed to go get everyone a cup
of coffee or a Red Bull or something. Aren't he
quite like that Houston Chargers game? And to be fair,
it wasn't the most aesthetically pleasing game I think that

(36:04):
we've seen so far this year.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
No, I agree with you. It wasn't like the first
run of the college football where we had those first
round home games and it was just so electric. You
didn't get that, and you know you're not gonna get
that in Houston. I'm sorry to say that. At least
in baseball, it sounds a lot more exciting than that.
Doesn't football to beyond the jet does?

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Bak writes, Chargers and the Texans was a bleep show.
The Broncos defense was the biggest disappointment for me. They
were great all season and had no answer for the
Bills offense and running game. The Eagles walked and Todd
Bowles always looks so sad tonight he had a reason. Yeah,
he kind of froze there late whenever they needed a touchdown.

(36:46):
Late night drug tester is on it early, He writes,
Can the NFL just stop being cute with the playoff
schedule and say Houston is always playing the early Saturday
game unless they make the AFC champions?

Speaker 3 (36:55):
Amen to that? What was the uh? They played the early?
Gave him that? What eight years in a row or something?
Did that affect every time they make the playoffs? And
they should to be honest with you, that's exactly where
they belong in that early Saturday morning slot.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Colin Wrights, as a Packers fan, I keep saying I
had a buddy make fun of me because I said
when we get text to our local show or when
people tweet our show on Sunday nights, that no one
writes anything, they type it out.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
So I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
I understand that Colin's not sitting down with a pin
in the paper and writing things out, but it's it's
my crutch, so let me live with it, Arnie Colin Wrights.
As a Packers fan, I agree one percent with Matt
Verdant after two seasons. Jordan Love is a really good quarterback,
but it's hard to be sold on him lighting up
the scoreboard and willing the team to multiple playoff victories

(37:45):
when the games are close.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
So is that a reason good round last year? Though?
They he a good little couple of games last year
in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
Oh yeah, they smoked the Cowboys. I guess my my
question would be, if that's your take, and I'm not
disagreeing with the Colin, you obviously have watched every throw
that this dude has made. As a Packers fan, I
might be a little bit more of a red zone
Packers fan, but I mean, is there is there this

(38:14):
point where you're trying to say, yeah, he can't get
it done?

Speaker 3 (38:17):
I mean exactly.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
I mean, dude just went off for two seventy two
and three touchdowns and they went over the Cowboys last
year wasn't as good against the Niners in a game
that ended up being pretty tight. But I mean, if
you're gonna start questioning this now, he's still at least
got I think, what two more years before you can
really start panicking with this guy?

Speaker 3 (38:35):
I agree with you there. Look, I was thinking, did
they really go out and get optimal people around them? Yes,
they went and got Josh Jacobs, so that was a big,
big upgrade. But didn't then they have injuries. Dobbs missed
a lot of games and he got hurt again, didn't he?
So yeah, and there was other injuries too to some
of the wide receivers. I'm wondering how much that played

(38:57):
into a factor in this year.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
And let's not forget he got hurt too. But I
mean Jordan Love wasn't a hundred percent either. And then
one more here, I'll allow it, Prito. He writes, well
Mayfield and said Tampa Bay has more fun with him
at quarterback than walking on eggshells with Brady. So I
guess they'll be having fun in Cankun instead of the
super Bowl and playing for a ring.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
Why does everything got to be can't Coon? Why can't
it be Mazalan I've.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Never understood that. I've never understood It's like, does everything
have to be candy?

Speaker 3 (39:27):
Right? I mean, there's a lot of great places to go.
You don't have to make it. Can't kuon them? People
don't even really go to kangkun anymore?

Speaker 2 (39:34):
And stop it, that's right, can couon on three? I
think it kind of became like an NBA joke.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
Public on three that doesn't have the same ring to it.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
No one wants to make on three, Tauphin Island on three,
Disney World on three.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
It's just like a Bahamas on three. All right?

Speaker 2 (39:51):
When we come back to the Tirack dot com studios,
you did hear in UCLA Dodger Frank's very scientific poll
that amongst the worst weekends he had the sports books.
We got Todd Furman coming up with us in fifteen minutes,
and uh, we'll dive into the college football playoffs when
we come back. Was it a good weekend for the books?

(40:12):
Was it a bad weekend? And how do we see
this massive number for next Monday's championship game playing out?
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Speaker 3 (40:50):
You're surprised at all by the way, No, no, no,
stop it.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
As a guy from day one, does he go get
Josh McDaniel to be his offensive coordinator?

Speaker 3 (40:58):
I wrote that down on one of the numerals, and
the answer is yes, right, this is going to be
his third, fourth, fourth.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Time right to be with the Patriots as they're OC.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
Let's see, he was the Patriots OC, then he got
hired by the Broncos, and then he went to the
Rams for a little bit, then went back to New England,
and then he got hired by the Raiders, and then
he got fired because he's freaking terrible. Uh So, yeah,
he's third time to get hired by Patriots. Yeah, not
too bad at all. I didn't how did I miss

(41:32):
that on the picks? Oh my gosh, you're in big
trouble with your knicks bet too, aren't you.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
Oh yeah, they're not doing too well against the top
two opponents in the NBA. But your Oklahoma City team
just crunched us. They're good.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
They're really good. They're really good. But it's also very
early still in the season. I mean, in a lot
of ways, we're not even at the halfway point. And
I've got Oklahoma City fans trying to plan a parade.
They're really good and they're really fun, and I don't
think they're going anywhere.

Speaker 3 (41:59):
But it's too bad. Calm down, just a little bit.
Calm down?

Speaker 2 (42:03):
Why is it too bad?

Speaker 3 (42:04):
If I if we did a poll right now, can
you pull up a pole right now, does Oklahoma City
have a team in the NBA? It would be fifty
to fifty. Yes.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
No, Well, I mean, Arnie, give me a little bit
of credit. I mean, I would say, of my you know,
twenty thousand or whatever followers on Twitter, probably nineteen thousand
of them are from Oklahoma, So I would hope that.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
Will not guaranteed that.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
How does that matter?

Speaker 3 (42:31):
Oh, don't get mad, don't no. I am bad.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
I think it's ps because you're part of the problem.
You're the reason why the NBA, I yet it's under on.
You're the reason why the NBA keeps cramming the Lakers
and the Heat and the Nicks and the Celtics down
our throat. And the best story right now is in
Oklahoma City and Cleveland and Memphis, but none at all.
They're so you're so snobby and you're so snuck up

(42:55):
in your bad right that you'd rather get crap basketball
teams on your TV and complain about how bad the
NBA is. Then, dude, just a little bit of work
to actually, you know, dig into the what do they
call the NBA leak pass? Dig into your leak pass
a little bit, Arnie, watch the thunder Watch the calf.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
No, I can't. They're not a big market.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
It's not that.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
That's a U problem, not a meat problem. That's a Cleveland,
O Oklahoma City are phenomenal teams. But that's right. It
doesn't move the needle. It doesn't.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
It absolutely does, and it did whenever they were winning.
Before Golden State never moved the needle. Golden State. Nobody
cared about Golden State until they started doing what winning
you win, people are gonna watch you.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
I don't care where you're from. The Lakers move the
needle and they're not big time winners now. They don't
move the needle right now, three years ago.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
They don't move the needle right now and there, and
like you said, they're three four years to move from
a title. So I I think that kind of thinking
is what's wrong with the NBA. Now we've already wasted
too much time talking about the NBA. What are you doing?
Is this just Willard and eat from What are we
doing here? Yes, my goodness, me trigger that people don't

(44:05):
know about Oklahoma City. Let's talk a little college here
real quick before you get back to the NFL. But
anything from the semi finals that you felt like you
needed to get to, I thought it was two incredible games.
Terrible decision making by Drew Aller cost Penn State, terrible
play calling by Steve Sarkisian cost Texas. Right in the end,

(44:26):
I think we got the two better teams in those matchups.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
We got the two better teams than those matchups. Though,
Am I the only person that feels like Penn State
squandered the up? Absolutely? You're right, I feel like they
should have won the game. It was theirs to win.
I give Notre Dame credit frctually pulling it off, but
I felt like it was Penn State's to win and
they should have won the game. And if you played

(44:49):
the exact same scenario out ten times, they probably winned
seven out of ten times. It just it just didn't
finish off for them. And you know, again, like I said,
give the Irish credit, right, we got the two best
teams in there, Ohio State of Notre Dame. It is
funny though, that a team that lost to Northern Illinois
will be playing for a national championship. How great is that?

Speaker 2 (45:10):
And a team that lost to It's our trival and
the team that it turned around a beat in the
playoffs in Ohio State, they lost to Michigan and they
lost to Oregon. This is one of the great advantages
of twelve teams. Neither one of these teams probably would
have made the four team playoff definitely wouldn't have been
there if it was just two.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
Right, So does the devalue the regular season now?

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Because sure, absolutely, But it's it's not like it's not existent.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
Not really though, because if you have three losses. It's look,
you're pretty bleak for you.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
So I think it's it's it's gonna take a while
for the diehard college football fans to get used to it.
I know it did for me this year. But I
was standing on the field watching Notre Dame lose to
Northern Illinois, and I don't know, I don't know if
you knew, If you know Cole Kublick, he was at
Ou that day, he was covering the Oklahoma game, and
we were standing on the field watching that game come

(46:01):
down to the end on the big screen before our
game kicked off, And as soon as Northern Illinois won it,
we turned to each other and said, oh, well, Notre
names out of the playoffs, because right, I mean, for
the longest time, Arnie, you lose one game in college
football and where are you.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
You're not much with the Northern Illinois no offense, You're
on your finished.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
Now all of a sudden, you know, you can lose
a game, and you can bounce back, and you can
maybe even lose a second game as long as you
know you're in the SEC or the Big ten or
maybe even Notre Dames. So it's a whole new way
of thinking about things. And I do feel like when
all was said and done, I don't know if we
got the two best teams throughout the season. Still kind
of think Oregon got just caught up in a buzzsaw

(46:40):
against Ohio State. But I feel like we got the
two teams that were playing the best football at the
right time. That might be a captain obvious thing.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
And we lose an all time favorite topic. Also, you know,
like before the Cubs won, you know, we used to
talk about the Cubs and what are they gonna win
and love the losers and all that, and then they
win a championship and all that goes out the window.
I guess all that Ryan day criticism that that goes
out the window now or I'm game, no, no, stop it,

(47:09):
it's done right, it's it's it's over criticizing him. He's
not going anywhere. He's he's solidified now with Ohio's date,
none of that bs anymore that he should be fired.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
I like the the thought that you feel like Ohio
State fans are going to feel some sort of rational
way if they go out and get beat.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
Are you going to tell me that if they lose,
there'll be people calling for his job.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
Yes, already, you want your you want Mike McDaniel fire
for goodness sakes, and he took the Dolphins to places
they hadn't been in years.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
Difference if he go if he went to the Super Bowl,
I don't think I'd be wanting him fired.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
I don't know if they lost that Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
I mean Ryan Day. I saw I heard the stat
that Ryan Day and I forget who else I have
the best record post World War Two of it. It's amazing.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
I'm listen.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
I'm not disagreeing with you.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
I just want to make this very clear.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
I'm not disagreeing with you.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
I think I think criticism of Ryan Day when he
loses games to Michigan is warranted, and I think he
accepts it. But I also think he's one of the
best coaches in college football and he's done a good
job this year. He really has, and they're gonna win
the national Championship. I just I think they're gonna beat
Notre Dame a week from Monday. I don't think he

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deserves it. But if they don't beat Notre Dame on Monday,
a week from Monday, I guarantee you there's gonna be
Ohio State fans up in social media world's message board
world favor we blow this, right, and how do we
not beat a team that we were that much of
a favorite against. They're still they haven't beat Michigan what

(48:48):
four years, and that wighs heavy on him. I mean,
even if they win a national title, Michigan is still
able to say, hey, congrats, we still beat you.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
Right.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
So there's just it's it's funny how that works out
in the rivalry world.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
I'm not arguing with you.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
I agree with you, but I'm telling you right now,
if they lose, you know, there's still going to be
angry Ohio State fans who would say right away, what, well,
let's go get Marcus Freeman. He should be our coach.
Look what he did. And they don't have the nil
budget and Notre Dame that we have here at Ohio State.
And guess where Marcus Freeman played his college ball, Ohio State.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
Marcus Freeman going to go to coach the Bears.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
There's a report today that the Chicago Bears want to
interview Marcus Freeman. According to Tom Pelisero of the NFL Network,
Freeman signed a contract extension with Notre Dame last month.
He's emerged as one of the most respected football coaches
in America, according to Pro Footballtalk dot Com. Don't know
how you gauge that, but I don't. I don't know.

(49:47):
That's a great question. You know, Notre Dame still has
to fight the issue of our You know, is Marcus
Freeman doing this with the kind of budget that's going
to allow them to consistently contend, right? Or is there
a little bit of hey, little smoking mirror is going
on here, right, and Brian Kelly at the end might
not be wrong. You still have a lot of investment
to be made within this program. And in fairness, Notre

(50:10):
Dame's not even in this championship game if Drew Aller
doesn't throw it back across the middle right to a
defensive back. So I don't know, I'm not I don't
have a good feel on it. But I think you
listen if the Bears come calling right right right?

Speaker 3 (50:24):
No, I agree, I think I listen and I may
take it over Notre Dame. It depends. I mean, if
you think you have a great quarterback, you might want
to take it. Also, now we know the teams that
are interested in yours, right, we've finally got a list
in where they're coming from.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
Well you go and pro. If you're Quinn viewers, are
you testing the market?

Speaker 3 (50:45):
No, it says the report that I put on Twitter
was that that has your choice to make drawing considerable
interest right from Ohio State, Alabama and Ole Miss if
you were to transfer again.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Yes, that's been out there for a long time. My
question to you is would you go somewhere else? And
Georgia would be in that mix to would you go
somewhere else in college or do you go turn pro?

Speaker 3 (51:14):
Whenever?

Speaker 2 (51:14):
It's a pretty soft quarterback class.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
I think I go ahead and go to college one
more year. Considering Carson Beck is what did he get
like six mill to go to Miami or three?

Speaker 4 (51:23):
Three?

Speaker 3 (51:23):
Wow? I thought it was more than that. But if
I'm yours, I'd probably take the money and transfer to
one of those schools. Then I go pro after that.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
Right, You got to remember every number that you hear
a guy is getting in college football.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
You got it. Divide it by like two, and that's
really what it is, you know. God, Because I thought
it was six million with Carson Beck, No it is not.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
It's three million that he because he got one point
five last year from Georgia, so he's getting three million
this year from Miami. Now he's making more money in
other endorsement and things of that nature. But you know,
go ahead and say six, because no one's going to
really be like, oh yeah, he's like eight or nine.
By the time you're done, Carson Beck will have made
one hundred million dollars in his move to Miami. I

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think that if you're a fringe first round quarterback, and
with the numbers the way they're looking now, if you're
a fringe first round quarterback and there's a really good
chance you're going to go on Day one, you got
to go to the draft. But if you're not, even
if you're second, third, fourth, fifth, you got to go
back to college because you're gonna end up making more

(52:23):
money as a free agent in college than you will
hoping you make a roster fighting to get on a roster.
I mean, look at Dylan Gabriel, Arnie. Dylan Gabriel went
to Oregon and went back to college because he didn't
get the NFL draft grade that he wanted.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
Right, he got a little unrestricted free agent.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
Is what he was going to be, and he goes
to Oregon, makes two mill this year, which would have
been more than he made in the NFL this season,
and now you have people saying, what.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
Thank God will take him in the first round.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
I think he might be a second round quarterback. So
if I'm a college quarterback, if I'm not in the
first round, maybe the second round too. I think I'm
going back to school and making seven figures somewhere.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
I think that's exactly what I would do. And by
the way, since you're talking about transferring, I just here's
where my snobbish comes in from. And and I hate
to pick on my school, Arizona, but you know, I'm
into the blue bloods. And you know, when I see
that people are transferring and I go, oh, great, Arizona

(53:23):
got another guy that says he's from like Texas State
or Fresno, I'm like, no, No, can't we get somebody
from like Georgia or Alabat? Is it really now?

Speaker 1 (53:37):
Is it? I mean?

Speaker 3 (53:38):
I can't? I mean please. That's like saying, Oh, I'm
really going to hook you up with a girl. She's
a definite two. No. No, I come on, man, you
I just can I just get one five star athlete
do I do I have to.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
Get a five star from Georgia. You might get a
five star.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
We have guys transferring from like Freds Noo and dregs
like that. Come on, man, I want on a big
time program.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
So you would rather have a third string guy from
Alabama than to have a person that started at say,
the University of Tulsen became like a thousand yard receiver.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
Yes, I think so, yes, Well come on, man, well
you know what you're gonna tell me. You don't like
those five star athletes or not big time anymore for you?
I like production.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
I like production because the bottom line more than give
me the guy.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
That went to Texas State that a great year there?

Speaker 2 (54:36):
Okay, yeah, why not?

Speaker 3 (54:37):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (54:38):
Hey where did cam Ward go before Miami?

Speaker 3 (54:42):
Where I don't remember?

Speaker 2 (54:43):
He started? That incarnate word?

Speaker 3 (54:46):
Would you like to have him as your quarterback? See
what a yeah?

Speaker 2 (54:50):
See that's just the thing about it. That's the thing
about it is the bottom line more than anything else
is you'll you'll want everyone from the big time school.
But in the end you realize you can find talent
other places. That's why the portal is as crazy.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
So you're let me just get this Chris Plank says,
take the transfer from Texas State over Alabama and Georgia.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
Yeah, that's exactly what I said. You're exactly right. All right,
when we come back to the tyrack dot com studios,
let's get back on the NFL. Let's talk with Todd
Furman next right here on Fox Sports Radio. All right,
it's Arnie and Plank right here on Fox Sports Radio.
We are not chasing the cat, We're chasing the cash,
and we're welcoming and our buddy Todd Furman from the

(55:35):
bet to Board podcast. Todd, a good bad day for
the books today? Seem like seemed like it might have
been a bad one. What say you?

Speaker 3 (55:43):
Uh, you know what?

Speaker 7 (55:44):
Games all coming in under the total definitely helped the
house out a little bit. Books found themselves rooting for
the Commanders in the late games. So the way it
started with two favorites covering relatively easily, Buffalo of course,
creating separation after the break against the Broncos in Philadelphia
and Green Bay mudding up the waters, I'm sure the
books were thrilled with the Commanders at least winning out

(56:04):
right to take care of some of the liability has
been out there but most of the folks that had
started the weekend on Friday night had no problems getting home,
tying Ohio State to the Baltimore Ravens to the Buffalo Bills,
and of course closing that out with the Philadelphia Eagles
and style.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
If I had a bet on the Vikings Rams last week,
do I still have that bet or earlier in the
week before they moved the games? And if I did,
could I middle the game? Todd? What's going on in
this situation?

Speaker 7 (56:30):
It all depends on the casino. Every sports book operator
has their own house rules. Some books issue a refund
when there's a change in venue. Other books maintained that
it's still action as long as the game is played
within seven days of the original schedule date. So not
exactly one size fits all approach, depending on which preferred
operator you happen to place that bet with. So I'm

(56:50):
sure there are plenty of folks that felt thrilled having
the Los Angeles Rams was what they thought was a
short home underdog and that plus two plus two and
a half range that now have the Rams more on
a net field with a similar number. And for those
folks who bet the Rams, you know pretty late in market,
you know, they end up on the wrong side of it,
at least from getting the best of the number with
that price having moved as far as pick them or

(57:10):
even Rams minus one in some shops before reopening with
the Vikings minus two to two and a half.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
Did it surprise you at all that it moved a bit?
Or I mean, do you think it's going to be
that much of a factor where it's being played tomorrow,
at least in your personal opinion.

Speaker 7 (57:25):
I think it changes a little bit of the dynamic there.
But look, we can't really sugarcoat that so far doesn't
exactly have the most daunting home field advantage. So if
we were moving a game from se lambeau Field or
from Buffalo, it's going to change that. I namit quite
a bit more than the Rams having to go on
the road to Arizona. It's more about the displacement and
the interruption and travel schedule above all else. And you know,
wondering if the players that have been in the thickest things,

(57:47):
given the unfortunate circumstances in southern California, are able to
compartmentalize and put together a more complete effort than what
we saw from the Charger Saturday against the Texans, so
no advantage.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
And because you're saying that the line change from the
Rams playing at home to playing it neutral.

Speaker 7 (58:03):
No, it did change. The game was a pick him.
And now we're looking at the Vikings minus two and
a half. So okay, you had a two two and
a half point move. Number originally opened with Minnesota a
two point favorite at so far, but the price got
that down, so we're kind of more in line with
where the number opened. But again the change in venue.
But I think the bigger storyline of follow here is
a change in surface for two teams that have grown
accustomed to playing their home games on turf that now

(58:25):
we're playing on natural grass and a surface that didn't
exactly look to be the fastest in the league when
we saw the Cardinals play their regular season finale there
against the forty nine ers.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
Who was We've asked this question throughout the night, Todd,
but of the of the four teams, five team listen
went to five teams that have going home. We got
one more to go. Who was the most disappointing in
your mind this week and who let you down the most?

Speaker 7 (58:46):
I'm not going to say disappointing, but I think the
Denver Broncos didn't exactly quit themselves as well as they
could have. I mean, Sean Payton extremely conservative with his
game plan, and not only did he handcuff his team,
you know, he handcuffed their opportunity to pull off the upside.
So I didn't think they could go into Buffalo and
be able to win that game out right, But I
definitely thought they could be a lot more competitive, especially

(59:06):
given the way that they performed on that opening drive.
Pittsburgh Steelers kind of were the team that we thought
they were. I mean, you don't lose four games going
into the postseason because you're playing your best football, and
they couldn't do much to slow down Derrick Henry. But
I would say a team that came in thinking that
they were probably going to have great opportunities to win
have to be both the teams that were both minus three.
The Chargers get off to that six to nothing start

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but are unable to create some separation, and the Texans
kind of played downhill in the second half, and then
of course the unfortunate miscues we saw at Baker Mayfield,
the botched handoff with Jalen McMillan, whether it was a
play action or something along those lines. And then of
course Tampa having to settle for a field goal on
what was the second and short, and you thought they
were going to get a fresh out of downs with
an opportunity to go up twenty four to twenty.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
To tell me if I'm reading this right, one hour
ago the Lions came out, had the Lions minus ten
and a half over the Commanders. Now the Lions are
eight and a half over the Commanders of the drop
two or is that just a different line.

Speaker 7 (01:00:02):
No, it's some different books with stronger opinions than others.
We did Season ten and a half to open there,
but a larger book out here in the desert with
major market influence opened significantly shorter in at eight and
a half nine range. So typically what will happen is,
even if you don't have a strong opinion and you
have the opportunity to grab an underdog plus ten and
a half, you bet that game now and figure out
what to do with it a little bit later. We'll

(01:00:22):
see where the number settles. But I think No Man's
Land kind of the perfect pricing, tough turnaround for the
Commanders on a short week, playing yet another road game
and which will be their third in as many weeks
against a rested Lions team that should be trending up
with their overall defensive health. And I think Tampa left
a lot of points out there, somethings the Lions aren't
going to do with multiple weeks to prepare for this defense.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
Listen, I'm not trying to change this and make this
about the team in your city, Todd, but I feel
like the Raiders are making moves kind of like Washington.
In other words, the Commanders get a new owner in
there and everything changes. Mark Davis isn't going anywhere, but
I feel like he's finally I don't know, is kind
of say, Listen, I got Tom Brady here, I got
a lot of smart people. There's new owners that are involved,

(01:01:05):
Richard Seymour as a part of it. Are the Raiders
actually going to do something smart in this coaching cycle
or am I just getting my hopes up for no reason?

Speaker 7 (01:01:13):
Yeah, we'll see if they can lure the right coaching
candidate there. I mean, they parted ways of the Antonio
Pierce early last week. I think it was a little
bit more of a surprise that they ended up going
in a different direction and firing Tom Teleasco a few
days later. So you're kind of building this operation from
the ground floor up, and it's a question of do
you bring in a general manager, do you bring in
a head coach or do you bring in the head
coach first, followed by a general manager, and then of

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course have to identify the strengths and weaknesses on the roster.
The most notable glaring need for them is to figure
out who their franchise quarterback is going to be, whether
it's acquiring somebody in the draft by trading up or
maybe looking to bring in a veteran that can hold
down the four for a year or two until they
identify someone that they think can be that face of
the Silver and Black organization going forward.

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
Right now Ohio State. Note for Dave Fizzel, there's got
to be tons of one coming in on that one dot,
is it not or.

Speaker 7 (01:02:01):
What there will be? But keep in mind we have
more than a week for a kickoff of that game,
So instead of the college football playoffs kicking off an
NFL weekend, that'll kind of be the final leg that
people will tie a out of their parlays into next
weekend when you get two NFL games on Saturday too,
on Sunday and Monday night providing the Notre Dame Ohio
State National Championship. So college games don't typically get bet

(01:02:24):
seven or eight days out by the general public. They'll
start to get involved as we get much closer to
the weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
Notre Dame keeps finding ways. Ohio State's been the best team.
And when I say Notre Dame keeps finding ways, it's
not a knock. It's that they're a good football team, man.
And I don't know that we got the two best
teams consistently in college football this year. But I'll say
this much, Todd. I'm excited to see them go out.
I thought the semi finals were awesome, and I've I've
brought this up a lot, and it's a statement of
captain obvious, but I think college football really needed two

(01:02:52):
games like we got in the semi finals. You got
two competitive, fun football games, and you hadn't really had
those in the playoffs this year.

Speaker 7 (01:02:59):
No, it was of a silver lining for a playoffs
that had been anti climacticant to your point, Chris, a
lot of the favorites going out there and dominating, turning
these games into blowouts. So it was a good breath
of fresh air to have two games that kind of
came down to the final minutes. And to your point,
Notre Dame finding ways to execute. I mean they've gone
out there and instead of self distructing like some of
their opponents have made those plays that they need too late,

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whether they're on the offense or defensive side. And Ohio
State has that gear that a lot of teams in
college don't have. It seems that that regular season finale
lost to Michigan has really provided the wake up call
in credit Ohio State. Their offense didn't exactly click on
all cylinders against Texas. It was their defense coming up
and making stops at key junctures where it looked like
the Scarlett and Gray had a chance to create some

(01:03:42):
separation early in that game, but we're done in by
penalties allowed Texas to hang around and you know, some
ill fated play calls, especially in a goal to go situation.
But I'm sure Steve Sarkisian, which he has a chance
to do, had a chance to do over again.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
Don I love these prop beds. One guy was complaining
he lost out on like a seventy thousand because he
had jayde and Daniels over seventy yards rushing and he
had to take a knee the last or something to
that effect. He lost some yards on one of the
plays and he went by on the thirty six.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
The last play on the on the knee he took
any Jeff Schwartz had brought it up that he took
the knee, so it put him under his rush total.
But they usually end up paying those out right, No,
I mean they won't.

Speaker 7 (01:04:23):
But look, Jane daniels rushing total wasn't seventy and a half.
I mean, that's on, you know, a more aggressive payout
that people are looking to try and ladder up. I mean,
his over under for rushing yards was more in line
in the forties. What I think was more interesting was
Jalen Hurts, who's rushing total actually opened thirty four and
a half, got its high as thirty nine and a half.
Jalen Hurts takes that knee, ends up giving up a

(01:04:44):
yard on the final play of the game between the
Eagles and excuse me, the Eagles and Packers earlier today,
and it's what we always talk about the importance of
getting the best of the number, and you know, a
yard here and a yard there typically can make the
difference between having a winning day and a losing day.
For those folks to do this a little bit more seriously.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
He is Jalen Hurts the quarterback? Todd last question for me,
is Jalen Hurts the quarterback that we trust the least
of the ones that are remaining.

Speaker 7 (01:05:09):
I mean, right now, you have some major questions that
Eagles passing attack didn't exactly look dynamic or crisp against
Green Bay. It was the Philadelphia defense that gave them
the opportunity to win and be able to create that
level of separation. If Philadelphia can't run the football next
week against the winner of this Vikings Rams game, it's
going to post some major problems. But who knows the
potential to work off the rosta and maybe he'll be

(01:05:31):
able to get on the same page. Good to see
AJ Brown being a voracious reader on the sidelines, making
sure that he can channel some of his inner motivations,
despite Jalen Hurts saying he's never seen Aj Brown with
a book at any time in his professional career.

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
By the way, you're jumping on Philadelphia over the winner
of the game, or are you going to take Minnesota or
the Rams.

Speaker 7 (01:05:51):
It all depends on price. I mean, price is a determinant.
If you told me the Philadelphia opened it a pick him,
I would making a case for Philly. If Philly opens,
you know, is a three and a half point favorite.
Knowing these teams are going to have a short week
in cross country travel, you know, multiple times in a
third straight road game for the Vikings, I'm probably not
running to try and make a case for Minnesota. So
I'm very curious to see where not only that side opens,

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but a total as well, given some of Philadelphia's potential
shortcomings offensively that we've seen over the last couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
Hey, and before let's go, let me I don't want
to besmirch the great name of Jeff Schwartz, but it
was the Jalen Hurts rushing total. He went under rushing
by half the yard on the kneel, so that we.

Speaker 7 (01:06:27):
Can get then we can get Jeff a hard time
than for not shopping around for the best of the
number that did happen to have over thirty four and
a half rushing yards. You got on that problem early
and didn't have it taken away or ripped away from
our clutches with that late knee where he only lost
the yard. But look, I'm not going to look a
gift tors in them mouth because in the pass of
Patrick Mahomes, we've seen quarterbacks drop back and give up

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three or four yards at minimum rather than just one
yard like herbs.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
Yeah, good stuff is always taught. Have a great week,
appreciate your insight.

Speaker 7 (01:06:55):
Always a pleasure, gents, Have a great week and can't
wait to break down the conference finals and how the
money has come in throughout the course of the league
to the national championship when we're twenty four hours before kickoff.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
Thanks totally, Thanks Todd, and of course Todd you hear
him with Mike and Jason they went Fridays here on
Fox Sports ratio. Yeah, here was this screw that up? Yeah,
because I saw it and I knew what you were talking.

Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
About with Jaydon Daniels, I didn't know.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
But Schwartz, Jeff Schwartz said, Jalen Hurts goes under his
rushing total by half the yard. On that meal, they
had already graded it a win, and the screenshot at
his bet, which was Jalen Hurts over thirty six and
a half rushing yards and when he took the knee
he went under that. So wow, all right, Steve Seger
is in to get us caught up on everything that's

(01:07:44):
going on in the world of sports. What's up, Steve?

Speaker 5 (01:07:46):
I can make that even worse. He didn't just lose
the yard. It was minus four on the kneel down. Oh,
it's what made it a thirty seven yard field goal
the next play to win, as if that has any
importance apparently in this conversation. Washington does win its playoff
opener at Tampa Bay twenty three to twenty. Now, Jayden
Daniels did become the first rookie in NFL history tonight

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to in a playoff win lead his team in passing
and in rushing yards because nobody was running the ball
for the Commanders tonight, Daniels at thirteen carries thirty six
yards was their leading rusher Brian Robinson ten carries sixteen yards.
But they do advance Saturday night Washington at one seed
Detroit on Fox TV. By the way, Daniels when he

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dropped back to pass on third and fourth downs tonight
nine completions eight of them for first downs. He had
over one hundred yards passing and two touchdowns just on
third and fourth down dropbacks, and most importantly the run
that set up the field goal. He was contacted behind
the line of scrimmage and still got another ten yards

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after contact to in the final minute of the game
convert a third and one and set up the winning kick,
which hit the.

Speaker 3 (01:08:59):
Upright and went through.

Speaker 5 (01:09:00):
Unbelievable Zane Gonzalez three for three on field goals, including
a fifty two yarder earlier. This thirty seven yarder won it.
The Washington franchise hadn't won a playoff game since the
two thousand and five season, had been zero to five
since in the postseason. The Bucks are out. Green Bay's
out after losing at Philadelphia today twenty two to ten.

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Denver finishes ten and eight after losing at Buffalo thirty
one to seven. Next Sunday, Buffalo will host Baltimore. The
winner of tomorrow night's game Rams versus Vikings will go
to Philadelphia next Sunday three pm Eastern Time, and the
one seed Chiefs fifteen and two, who are off this weekend,
will be hosting Houston on Saturday afternoon. The Patriots hired

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Mike Rabel as their new head coach. He led the
Tennessee Titans for six years. He was Coach of the
Year in twenty twenty one. In women's basketball, Number one
UCLA's home game was postponed due to the LA fires.
Northwestern did not travel to Southern California, so they didn't
play USC or UCLA this week. However, today number four
rank USC downtown away from the problems, beat Penn State.

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UCLA women will be playing Wednesday against this Penn State
team that is staying in town, but that game will
be in Long Beach instead of it UCLA on campus
because UCLA has no in person classes this week. Also,
by the way, Number two South Carolina beat number five Texas.

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
In the NBA late game.

Speaker 5 (01:10:21):
Phoenix over Charlotte one twenty to one, thirteen Charlotte eight
and twenty eight. This season, the Lakers and Clippers will
each resume their home schedules on Monday, after having games
postponed in recent days due to the LA fires. NHL
Anaheim won in overtime at Carolina. Vegas got a four
to one win over Minnesota. Cocoa Golf took her first

(01:10:41):
round match at the Australian Open. And a reminder for
the NFL, your team opponents for next season are known
as soon as the regular season ends. The exact schedule
won't be coming out till about May, but we know
for a fact that Buffalo, if you're a season ticket
holder in their final year at that old stadium next year,
Buffalo is going to be hosting Baltimore next season. Buffalo's

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going to be hosting Kansas City next season, and Philadelphia
and Tampa Bay the Kansas City home schedule, They're home
to Detroit and Washington, and Philadelphia and Baltimore's at Kansas City.
By the way, the Chargers will be hosting Philadelphia and Washington.
It's AFC West turn to play that division. Chargers will

(01:11:24):
be hosting Pittsburgh and Minnesota as well.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
Back to you, thanks Steve, as we come to you
live from thetiraq dot com studios. Yeah, that schedule for
the Bills not easy though they looked really good to that.
I feel like I failed you tonight, Arnie because on
the Roman numeral rundown. Yeah, Roman numerals one, two, three,
and then I think four and five. We're all about
just to recap in the games, and we really haven't

(01:11:47):
taken a lot of time to dive into each individual
game kind of more general thoughts on each We just.

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
Well one because Buffalo, really, what's there to really dive
in for they got down seven, not thinking it was
all Buffalo after that, Well.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
What really is there to dive into any of the
other games outside of the front of the finish of
the Commanders and the.

Speaker 3 (01:12:04):
Buccaney exactly exactly. I mean, there was a few things
to dive in with the Philadelphia game. One, I didn't
think Jalen Hurts looked all that good. I don't know
if there was something wrong with him or obviously he
was coming back from that concussion, but he wasn't all
that great the Green Bay offense. Also, Jordan Love with
the three interceptions, it's just I mean, he had a

(01:12:25):
horrible game. I don't know if it was just one
of those defensive battles or what, but both quarterbacks did
not play well in that game at all.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
Chris Jordan Love had a crazy stat because he hadn't
thrown an interception in a minute and then all of
a sudden today he just couldn't stop throwing interceptions. He
threw three of them, and I was trying to find
the number here while you were saying it, But I
want to say it was like a couple hundred passes

(01:12:52):
that he had thrown since he had an interception, right,
And I was listening to the broadcast and the announce
it's been so many picks. There are so many games
since he's thrown an interception. And then literally, Arnie, the
very next play was an interception that and you know
in the other games.

Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
The games on Saturday wasn't so much about the Texans
and Baltimore winning. It was more about the disappointments of
the Chargers in Pittsburgh. I think, at least that's in
my opinion. I think more people are looking at what
Justin Herbert looked awful. The Chargers got out to that
early lead, and they did nothing after that, and they

(01:13:31):
couldn't even convert it on a touchdown. It was two
field goals. Pittsburgh got down twenty one to nothing at
a half time. Never really you thought they were gonna
win the game at all, and people were questioning if
Tom woid should come back, what they're gonna do about
the quarterback situation. I think more disappointment in those two
games than positive with the Texans in Baltimore.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
When we come back to the tyrack dot Com studios,
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and notes.

Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
What's going on, Steve.

Speaker 5 (01:14:15):
The Jordan Love stad by the way, is that he
had not thrown an interception since mid November.

Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
That's it, thank you, sir.

Speaker 5 (01:14:20):
That is seven plus games, maybe two hundred passes and
then three interceptions thrown at Philadelphia in the season's over today.
And remember the Packers fumbled the opening kickoff as well,
and also in the first half, Green Bay had a
seven and a half minute drive and got no points
out of that because of the missed shortfield goal. More
on that in a moment, but I will say that
Jordan Love when he actually had to throw downfield today,

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the next gen stat is when he had passes of
at least ten air yards as they call it. He
was three of eleven passing with three interceptions.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
It's not good.

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
So no, it just wasn't there.

Speaker 3 (01:14:54):
And I think technically six of eleven right.

Speaker 5 (01:14:56):
With three, Yeah, six were completed, three to his team
and to the other team. You are absolutely correct. But
then we saw a rookie quarterback who got to win.
So we haven't had that in over a decade, a
rookie quarterback winning a road playoff start. It had not
happened since Russell Wilson twenty twelve. It happened with Mark Sanchez,
Joe Flacco is rookies just before that. But the amazing

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thing tonight, Stats Inc. Is saying here we had Washington tonight,
no turnovers and no punts in this game behind a
rookie starting quarterback. They say playoffs are not In NFL
history with a rookie starting quarterback, there have only been
three instances of a team having no turnovers no punts
for an entire game. All three are with Jayden Daniels

(01:15:40):
this year, crazy tonight, geez, and twice early in the season.
That is amazing, amazing. More on the Philadelphia win, because
keep in mind, Philly is going to be home to
whoever wins that Vikings Rams matchup tomorrow night. That Philadelphia
home game will be next Sunday, three pm Eastern time.
Saquon Barkley today had one hundred nineteen yards rushing. Land

(01:16:00):
Hurts was back from being you know, for a long
time in concussion protocol. He had two touchdown passes. Philly
hit three short field goals. So a game where aj
Brown has one catch twenty two to ten was the
largely dominant final over the Packers, who finish up eleven
and seven this year. Josh Jacobs did have eighty one
yards rushing and a TD today. He had three receptions

(01:16:20):
forty yards as well. Philadelphia led sixteen to three to
start the fourth quarter. As far as the injuries, wide
receiver Christian Watson of Green Bay with the bad knee,
was out, and wide receiver Romeo Dobbs left with another concussion.
Wide receiver Jaden Reed left with a shoulder injury.

Speaker 3 (01:16:36):
But they weren't left.

Speaker 5 (01:16:38):
Yeah, they there, you're correct, But there wasn't anything going
on on offense even before that. Remember, the Eagles had
faced the Packers in Brazil in the week one opener
for him and beat the Packers by five, then beat
him in the playoffs here. Philadelphia is the number one
rushing team in the NFC. That's who the Rams or
Vikings are going to match up against. The Eagles had

(01:16:58):
the top ranked defense in the entire league easily this year,
allowing under two hundred and eighty total yards per game.
They only allowed eighteen points a game and gave up ten. Today,
the Packers season is over. They had just ended the
regular season losing that game at home to Chicago fifty
one yard field goal on the final play. They are
now done. One note on injuries for the Eagles. Linebacker

(01:17:19):
Nakobe Dean left today with a knee injury. The Buffalo
home game was a win over Denver thirty one to seven.
Josh Allen two touchdown passes. In fact, he was twenty
of twenty six two hundred and seventy two yards and
on the ground eight carries forty six yards rushing. Time
of possession. I'll say it was in Buffalo's favorite nearly
forty two minutes to eighteen.

Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
It was incredible.

Speaker 5 (01:17:40):
They didn't have an answer for the run game man Denver, remember,
had the long touchdown pass and the opening minutes didn't
score at all. After that for Gus after thirty one
seven the final. Granted it was only ten to seven
at the half, but thirty one seven the final. James
Cook one hundred and twenty yards rushing and a TD
three short field.

Speaker 3 (01:17:57):
Goals for the Bills.

Speaker 5 (01:17:58):
Buffalo the two seed in the after and they're hosting
Baltimore next Sunday, the delicious matchup of the Divisional Round.
Because just this past week, Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson was
voted All Pro ahead of Josh Allen thirty votes to eighteen.
Who's going to win the MVP? Well, I believe it's
the exact same AP panel of fifty voters that votes

(01:18:19):
on MVP on NFL Honors Night, so perhaps this may
have been an indication. We'll see in late September. These
two teams did meet. Baltimore dominated thirty five to ten.
This is a Buffalo team that's undefeated at home nine
to zero. They won the AFC East for a fifth
straight season, and now they're in the Divisional Round for
a fifth straight year. I will say Denver at least
got to the playoffs. They qualified for the postseason for

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the first time since twenty fifteen, got there with a
rookie quarterback. They got the final playoff spot with that
shutout of whatever Kansas City put on the field less.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
Time for yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:18:51):
And then this season on the defense, they only allowed
eighteen points a game. That was third best in the
league and they mentioned it today. The Denver defense was
number one in the whole league in sacks. There is
something there, but it's Buffalo that advance. And they average
thirty one points a game this year, best in the AFC.
They scored thirty one points today. Turnovers are always so
important in football games, and the Bill's turnover margin was

(01:19:14):
easily the best in the entire NFL this year. They
were a plus twenty four on turnovers. And also, and
they mentioned this today, the Bills were the first team
in NFL history to have a season where they had
at least thirty touchdown passes and at least thirty rushing
touchdowns in the same season. So they'll be a formidable foe.
I love the Baltimore roster, just kind of like I
love the Philadelphia roster. It hardly guarantees either of them

(01:19:37):
getting to the Super Bowl. Saturday Night, Fox TV, Washington
at one seed Detroit.

Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
Here.

Speaker 5 (01:19:43):
The Washington run defense this season was among the worst
in the league and over one hundred yards rushing for
Tampa Bay for what it's worth. But the Bucks are
out and the Commanders have won six straight.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
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Speaker 3 (01:20:40):
Oh yeah, I'm pretty high on yeah, nine out of ten.
I'm very pumped up.

Speaker 6 (01:20:44):
Of it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:44):
I'm excited. I'm ready to roll.

Speaker 2 (01:20:46):
I was a little bit surprised to see how the
number moved from a pick em to the Vikings as
a two and a half point favorite based on the
venue move right, But I mean, listen, I'm not questioning
the move by any stretch of the imagination, but I
guess I was kind of surprised.

Speaker 3 (01:21:01):
That's not a big movie. When you lose home field advantage,
it's three or more.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
So well, that's what I'm saying is I kind of
thought it might be more like four that would move
in favor of the fourteen and three team that has
been the better team this year. I don't know. Maybe
maybe the Rams have a better shot in this, and
I'm giving them a chance.

Speaker 3 (01:21:21):
Maybe. I yeah, you know what, I like the Rams.
I think it's gonna be a great game either way.
I think this is gonna be the game tomorrow night
like you saw today with Washington Tampa. Maybe a field
goal at the end. I think it's gonna be a
close one. We didn't get too many close ones. I
believe that Rams in Minnesota would be a good one.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
I did too, your choice, Arnie. We got a couple
of Roman numerals that we could still hit or we
could hear from the people here because we're getting we
get a lot of tweets and night, a lot of
people don't want to get h.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
By the way, why did you think I was hacked?

Speaker 4 (01:21:49):
Why?

Speaker 3 (01:21:49):
Why did you think I was hacked? In my I
was sending you stuff to your phone number, not to
your Twitter or anything like that. Arnie, Let me tell
you somebody.

Speaker 2 (01:21:58):
Yeah, you've never given me investment advice in the ten
to eleven years that we've done a show together, right, exactly,
So when out of nowhere, and I've had a lot
of these fake accounts that and the first thing they
ask you whenever they you realize it's a fake, is hey,

(01:22:20):
have you heard about blank? Right? So whenever you send me,
it's like, hey, did ever I tell you about this?
And then you proceed to send me eight tweets or
eight texts.

Speaker 3 (01:22:30):
About talking before that, we were tweet we were talking.

Speaker 2 (01:22:34):
You get hacked in everything somehow, some way, and I
maybe you still have your number.

Speaker 3 (01:22:41):
I had no idea. First of all, there was something
wrong with my Twitter account. I did have to unhack
it or something, but because it said I was locked out,
and I gave Patrick the same thing. I'm not going
to give the uh it's a crypto coin. I came
across not going to give it out on the airs.
I think that's illegal or something. I'm not sure what
was funny.

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
What was funny though, PARTI is even when I went
to your I sent a direct message and I was like,
do you think there's a chance your texts have been hacked?
Or are you really fired up about cryptocurrency? And the
very first thing was no, I get it. I saw
a news story on it, and then in there you said,
Judy feels like the fix is on, and I was like, yeah,
you're definitely, you're definitely hacked.

Speaker 3 (01:23:21):
I mistyped up, but no, I look, don't take my word.
It's not that like I'm giving out this big advice
on krypto.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
I know, I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:23:29):
All I said was take a thousand dollars right right,
and you'll be happy because if this turns out to
be like the next bitcoin, I want you to know.
Patrick's like, you're.

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
Gonna make me broke.

Speaker 3 (01:23:41):
I go first, It's only it's only ae thousand dollars, okay,
And if you took one thousand dollars and if this,
if if it goes to where bitcoin went, your thousand
dollars would be worth thirty nine point five to three million,
So thirty nine million, five hundred and thirty thousand.

Speaker 2 (01:23:59):
I still think you were hacked by jee To. I
will say this much. I have never seen in my
life that kind of reaction from you on anything sports related,
life related. You felt like you had a tip in
the investment in world and I was with my wife.

Speaker 3 (01:24:16):
Not really a tip.

Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
It's just you know, me using my brain. Right, you're
using your brain. My wife goes, what is going on
because my phone just hip gone ding ding ding ding.
I'm like, I don't know, look at it. And she goes.
She even said, she goes, I'm pretty sure Arnie got hacked.

Speaker 3 (01:24:34):
Like being smart, I appreciate advice.

Speaker 2 (01:24:40):
Geez, that's what I'm saying, thank you, Okay, that's I
was just shocked by it. And these hackers have a
way of getting everywhere. And when you send me eight
straight texts about uh zrx or whatever it was, I
automatically think somebody got Arnie's account. Somebody got Arnie. Right,
he doesn't care that much about money. Come on, now,
if it was your picks. You know, you went in

(01:25:03):
and o one weekend and I didn't even get to
that many texts from you. So I think you can
understand why I might have questioned a few things there.

Speaker 3 (01:25:09):
All right, well if just take my advice and Patrick's
not going to listen to me. Now, I wanted to
go up just so I can become super super rich.
So I could rub it in Patrick's face. I could
just say, Okay, your big loser the way here, I'm
not even talking about you know, because I'm not. I
didn't even tell my financial advisor I'm doing this. I

(01:25:30):
let him handle. I'm just doing this like on my own,
just to have a little fun and invest a little
bit of money in the crypto thing. If if I
turned out to be right, well I'll be rich and
I'll be grateful for you.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
So you're awake, and I apologize for questioning.

Speaker 3 (01:25:46):
You don't question me when it was and then it
was my middle name is no, I don't what is it?
Eff Hutton? Hutton? When people when when.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
I was going to ask is a crypto? Are any
cryptos fanryto.

Speaker 3 (01:26:00):
Nobody knows what button is anymore? That's all.

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
Yeah, that's I know what it means.

Speaker 3 (01:26:05):
I was there with doing it, but button talks people listen.
I mean I think everyone could get around anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:26:11):
Yeah, I think it is. I think everyone could understand
when all of a sudden I looked down and every
single one of them are about cryptocurrency. I'm like, I
think Arnie got hacked.

Speaker 3 (01:26:19):
But thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
I will definitely take that into considerate rank kids.

Speaker 3 (01:26:22):
Well, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:26:23):
Well, I'm like you, I just don't have one thousand
dollars laying around.

Speaker 3 (01:26:26):
I've got to, oh, stop it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:28):
I've got a daughter that spins every last penny that
I have, so I've got that going for me. What
was the what we learned, we'll get. We'll get text
and tweets coming up in our next segment. We'll give
you guys the rest of the show because it's all
been really good. But I mean, we could take this
from the college drinks, or you could add it to
the NFL playoffs. So Artie, after this weekend, right, we
don't have to say six, week seven if you want

(01:26:50):
to say, I guess in the NFL, this would technically
be week nineteen if you want, after the wild card weekend,
after the playoffs have reached the climax, if you will.
In the world of college football, I know this. What
have we learned over the first handful of games.

Speaker 3 (01:27:05):
Well we learned is the cream does rise to the
top when we get to the first round of the playoffs.
And I did bring this up earlier. There are a
few tweaks we're going to have to do. I think
we'll have to go to eight teams. Nobody gets to
buy week that way. It's one through waight two, seven, three, six, four, five.
And winning the division doesn't give you a home game
advantage over a team like in Minnesota, who had was

(01:27:27):
it thirteen wins, twelve wins, thirteen wins? I'm not even sure.
But if you win eight games, they win thirteen, you
don't get a home game over them, So you get
seated by where you are in wins. If it's a tiebreaker,
then maybe you go to the division win or something
like that. I think that's the fairest way. But that's
just a small tweak there, Chris's that's nothing crazy. I

(01:27:49):
think the fans would actually enjoy something to that effect.

Speaker 2 (01:27:53):
But I think you would be the first one to
admit it is a one to eighty from the way
that you were thinking.

Speaker 3 (01:27:59):
Yes, not even sure Chris. If it even makes the
games closer, I don't know. I think it makes the
the first round any closer, does it? Maybe?

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
And maybe not?

Speaker 3 (01:28:06):
Maybe the four or five game, But that's supposed to
be the way it comes out to. That's that's going
to be the closest game anyway. But other than that,
it might not make it any any closer. And yes,
it's it's a one eighty turn for me. I was like, Oh,
let's reward the team that wins the division. But there's
too many crappy divisions out there, and I'm getting tired
of rewarding there's always like two or three now crappy

(01:28:29):
the divisions. I'm getting tired of rewarding those guys.

Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
I would also say that one of our I wouldn't
even say fights is. I always thought that if you
we had a couple of teams that made the playoffs
with under five hundred records as division winners, right, I
think I think Washington was actually the last team to
do it. And I remember at that time your thought was, well,
are we really going to lose our mind? As it

(01:28:52):
really happened that awful when you have a division winner
that is that bad or not at the level where
they were, they're worthy of a home game. And I
think now we've all kind of looked at it and said,
all right, maybe it's okay to do something about it.
To where if it's just seating everyone one through eight,
I don't know everyone says division right.

Speaker 3 (01:29:12):
I don't think the matter. I don't think there's a
big swallow of people saying we need to get that
eighteen tho though I don't think anybody would be against it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:21):
Do division championships still matter?

Speaker 3 (01:29:25):
Not really?

Speaker 2 (01:29:26):
If I were to ask you what division you know?
I think I compare it to sports a lot of times.
If I were to say, hey, what division is Oklahoma
City in? Would you even know.

Speaker 3 (01:29:40):
The name of the division?

Speaker 2 (01:29:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:29:42):
Not off the top of them?

Speaker 2 (01:29:43):
Yeah, exactly, because it's point at the Northwest Division. What
do you get in the NBA for winning a division?
You don't get anything? But is that where the NFL
needs to be? And a division is more of a
scheduling thing than it is to say, oh, we won
the AFC West, you still are the if West Chata
and it gets you a higher seated spot. But do
we really need to put it where. Oh yeah, you

(01:30:05):
get a home game if you win your division.

Speaker 3 (01:30:08):
It's NBA. Though, if you win the division, you get
seated higher than the teams that don't. Though, don't you
do you? I think you do.

Speaker 2 (01:30:17):
I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (01:30:19):
I have to double check on the way it was
done last year. But the big difference is it's, you know,
a best of five, best of seven, so you have
always had a chance to come back in these one games.
When you're going on the road. It's so difficult to
win on the road. That's why it makes all the
difference in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:30:35):
Yeah, okay, so you're saying one to eighty in your mind,
we're gonna do away with automatically getting a home game
a home playoff game if you're a division champ, right.

Speaker 3 (01:30:45):
Only because recently we've had worse and worse divisions, I
mean horrible, Like I still think the NFC South was
a bad division, even though Tampa did win ten games. Buffalo,
the AFC East was a bad division. But give the
Bills credit for winning thirteen games this year. So I
don't want to go ahead and punish them. You don't
have to punish them because they won enough games.

Speaker 2 (01:31:07):
After the wild Card. I'm gonna stick with the NFL here.
I know how many of you feel when it comes
to Mike Tomlin. And as Ben Mahller has taught me,
as we've sat here and talked a lot about this
Bucks Commander's game tonight because it was the best game,
but there really hasn't been a lot of juice to

(01:31:27):
some of these other conversations tonight. Right, the story's always
in the loser's locker room. And I think one of
the biggest stories from the losing teams this week and
is the future of Mike Tomlin, because I think all
of us look at it and say, hey, you're gonna
do something here Pittsburgh, because it seems as if it's
I mean, is it fair to say it's kind of

(01:31:48):
become predictable and almost, in a word, stale. And I know,
I know some would say, what I want't supposed to
be that good anyway, They're over underwin total was only
eight and a half. Yeah, I get it. But when
you're eight three, eight and two whatever they were, it's
okay to change expectations. New information leads to new takes
or whatever it is, right, I mean, you get a

(01:32:09):
whole new set of actual facts to allow you to believe,
oh yeah, this is different than the preseason line. It's
hard to complain about ten and seven back to back seasons,
but there is one undeniable fact, Arnie. They haven't won
a playoff game since twenty sixteen.

Speaker 3 (01:32:26):
Usually, when you lose five games end of the year,
not when the playoff games is twenty sixteen, the coach
is usually gone.

Speaker 2 (01:32:32):
But I don't think that's the right move in Pittsburgh.
I like what Matt verd Am said earlier. Now, I
don't feel like they need to completely tear it all
down in Pittsburgh. I mean, yeah, and they finished ten
and seven, but their ultimate goal is a Super Bowl?

Speaker 3 (01:32:47):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:32:48):
So are we thinking that we saw Mike Tomlin coaches
last game in Pittsburgh, and is that the right move
for the Steelers? I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (01:32:56):
What do you know, I don't think so. I don't
think he's going to be fired at all. I don't either.

Speaker 2 (01:33:01):
I think they can trade him. I'm sure that you could. Now,
if somebody calls you and says we want Mike Tomlin,
we'll give you two first round picks, I think you
need to listen to that.

Speaker 3 (01:33:09):
Oh absolutely, but that's not cool.

Speaker 2 (01:33:11):
I don't think anyone's gonna give up too first.

Speaker 3 (01:33:13):
Piggybacking on that, I guess one and done is okay
with a couple of teams with coaching, right if if
they want somebody else, one year's enough to decide they
want to go ahead and move on. Is that that
Rikers or what I was?

Speaker 2 (01:33:26):
I was really surprised. We sat here last week as
the drawn Mayo news broke, and I was really surprised
that he didn't get another year. I was actually kind
of shocked that Antonio Peers they let him go through
that Monday press conference.

Speaker 3 (01:33:39):
That was a bigger shock to me than anything.

Speaker 2 (01:33:41):
Well, because they didn't fire him on Black Monday. You know,
they let him go out there and face the music
and talk about the future. But then he was fired
and you think, all right, well Tom Telesco's sticking around,
Well he's done on Thursday and he's fired. So uh one,
and I don't you had more than one with Piers
because he you'd have an opportunity as the interim coach.

(01:34:03):
I'm not trying to be semantics guy here, but yess
if you know, you know I guess right, And do.

Speaker 3 (01:34:10):
You want Dion? By the way, I don't think you ever.

Speaker 2 (01:34:12):
No, No, I think I think that if you.

Speaker 3 (01:34:14):
If you had Shador, would you want to Yes? No,
I know, No, No.

Speaker 2 (01:34:19):
Why deon an offensive coordinator?

Speaker 3 (01:34:23):
Do you know? Because it's the sun?

Speaker 2 (01:34:25):
So what do I want you to coach my hockey
team if she's my goalie?

Speaker 3 (01:34:29):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
I think. I think Dion Sanders is going to end
up being a fine coach at whatever level he wants to.
But I don't feel like I need to go get
him just because I got a son. I mean, is
that something you're thinking is a necessity here?

Speaker 4 (01:34:42):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:34:42):
I I just thought, well, first of all, it seemed
like that was the hot rumor out there until Pro
Football Talk put out that that the Raiders have no
interest in Dion Sanders. Well, I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (01:34:53):
Let's make sure. Let's make sure we get this right.

Speaker 1 (01:34:56):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:34:56):
Football Talk a bit of an aggregator at times. That's
Vinnie bon Signor, who covers the Raiders. Rosas Vegas had
reported that Dion has interest in Vegas, and it was
Victafer from the Athletic who said the Raiders have no
interest in one coach. Prime it seems as if the
Raiders are pretty hell bent on Ben Johnson, and if
they don't get Ben Johnson, it's going to be Pete Carroll.
And I'm not gonna lie to you. I don't have

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a problem with either one of those guys, aren't he?

Speaker 4 (01:35:19):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:35:19):
I think Pete's too all he is time.

Speaker 2 (01:35:21):
Oh wow, what an agist you are, Jess.

Speaker 3 (01:35:25):
I know. Well, then who are the Bears going to hire?

Speaker 4 (01:35:27):
Then?

Speaker 3 (01:35:28):
I Marcus Freeman, are you really believe that? Huh? Yeah?
Why not? Why not? Why not? Why not?

Speaker 2 (01:35:37):
Can I throw one more here real quick? After the
wild card weekend, I got sucked into the belief that
the Texans can do something, So I need you to
slap it out of me. Will you please remind me
that it wasn't really all about what the Texans did
and more about what Justin Herbert didn't with his four interceptions.
Now credit, he was also sacked four times, and Will

(01:35:57):
Anderson took over that game for a while. But I'm
talking crazy right here. If I'm thinking the Texans have
a chance next week against Kansas City.

Speaker 3 (01:36:06):
You are talking crazy. But I thought the same thing
to myself when I was getting ready to write down
my picks, and I was saying to myself, if the
Texans play like they did today against Kansas City, hey,
I'll take the eight, nine, ten points, whatever it is.
That's going to be a close game, considering, you know,
Kansas City could be rusty. Their offense hasn't clicked on

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all cylinders. And then I'm like, nah, stop it, come on,
what are you doing, man? What are you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:36:32):
Any anything else you want to add before we give
it to the tweeters when we come back to the program.

Speaker 3 (01:36:37):
Lots of tweets out there, we got tons. I don't
think we're going to get to nearly as many that
came in.

Speaker 2 (01:36:42):
All right, So you don't have anything else you want
to add from what you learned on Wildcard weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:36:46):
I just thought it was boring. We only had one
good game. I was disappointed, to be honest with you,
more than anything. You know how much I love those
close games and last second field goals. And I was
let down, let down the whole pretty much the whole week.

Speaker 2 (01:37:01):
Sorry about that. It'll come around for you. Just like
the college football playoffs got interesting in the semi finals, Arnie,
things will get interesting for you whenever you start diving
into the next round, the divisional round of the playoffs.
Keep hope alive? All right, when we come back, your
reaction next right here on Fox Sports Radio. All right,
it's Arnie and Plank on Fox Sports Radio. Got we

(01:37:24):
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(01:37:46):
I was gonna say, search Arnie. You think it'll find
it if I search Arnie?

Speaker 3 (01:37:50):
Maybe? Maybe not too many Arnie's out there.

Speaker 2 (01:37:53):
Yeah, it is kind of few and far between. So
if I go to my podcast provider and I just
search Arnie, ARNI pops up.

Speaker 3 (01:38:00):
Let's see what happens here.

Speaker 2 (01:38:02):
No, unfortunately, the Arnie States Show was the first one
that popped up.

Speaker 3 (01:38:08):
Don't know that.

Speaker 2 (01:38:09):
Oh wait, hold on, it was like the third one
on here.

Speaker 3 (01:38:11):
There you are, Who's number two? Is the number two?

Speaker 2 (01:38:14):
Arnie let's see here. There is the There's Army Army
hammer Time podcast. Ever, for some reason, there was an
episode of The Chicks in the Office, So I don't
know if that is best. To just search Fox Sports
Radio and that's how you find our podcast, Colin Wrights.
The new NFL playoff format should be division winners one
through three, seeds, four through seven seeds based on record. Okay,

(01:38:40):
so you're not guaranteed a fourth spot, but then you
get into that situation where you know, Minnesota kind of
gets hosed as a four, but they would still get
a playoff a home playoff game.

Speaker 3 (01:38:51):
Right, I'm not following that division winners one through.

Speaker 2 (01:38:55):
One, two, three division winners and that fourth division winner
is guaranteed to be ahead of somebody that might go
better you.

Speaker 3 (01:39:04):
That makes my lifense. I like that. You don't don't
like when the listeners writing ideas like that and I
laugh at them, But I like that one. I want
to use that one as my own idea.

Speaker 2 (01:39:14):
Griddles will just steal it, Kylein. I don't allow him
to trademark that ace.

Speaker 3 (01:39:19):
No, I'm gonna pretend that's my idea.

Speaker 2 (01:39:22):
Griddles make blackout total no show by the Dolphins today.
Understandable that Arnie's a little testy.

Speaker 3 (01:39:28):
Am I little testing today? Do I have a little
testy in my voice?

Speaker 2 (01:39:31):
It wasn't like last weekend. Last weekend you were very testy.

Speaker 3 (01:39:34):
Yeah there, And I feel good that we're gonna keep
Tyreek Hill. I feel better about that.

Speaker 2 (01:39:39):
That was a one eighty this week, wasn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:39:42):
Well? He got me mad. You know, if you're gonna
get me mad and you want to break both of you,
I want to break up with you. Both of you.

Speaker 2 (01:39:48):
Got good to see you're back together. Brian writes, Give
the Texans defense some credit. They destroyed Josh Allen historically
bad game for him and golf with his five turnovers
this year.

Speaker 3 (01:40:00):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:40:00):
I don't think any of us are overly concerned about
the Texans defense. It's what are they gonna do on offense?

Speaker 3 (01:40:05):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:40:06):
And I take no chance to run the ball against
Kansas City too?

Speaker 3 (01:40:08):
What's that? I'm sorry? They have zero percent chance of
winning against Kansas City.

Speaker 2 (01:40:12):
I tried, Brian. There you go, Arnie, you're now Matthew writes, Arnie,
you're now giving us financial advice. You give us your
advice on who to bet on with our money each week?
How does that turn out? I would lose all my
money as it is if I take and bet on
your advice.

Speaker 3 (01:40:31):
How do you know that this isn't gonna be like
the next Bitcoin? And I'm gonna make millions on top
of millions of dollars and then you're gonna regret it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:38):
You're gonna be so rich because not only are you
gonna have all this money you're gonna make on whatever cryptocurrency, right,
but you're gonna have your TV show?

Speaker 3 (01:40:48):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:40:48):
And then don't they have a reality show too? Or
did that die?

Speaker 3 (01:40:51):
No? I'm not doing the reality show, but I am
waiting for the TV show. You're right about that. And
my crypto coin is down a little bit right now, but.

Speaker 2 (01:40:59):
I'm not okay, Victor writes Arnie. Can my Texans reach
the Super Bowl against the Lions? That's assuming a lot there, Victor.
Can you imagine how crazy it's gonna be if the
Lions make the Super Bowl? For that fan base?

Speaker 3 (01:41:14):
I would love that they I mean, you talk about
a long dispersed fan base out there. I love for
them to taste that a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:41:21):
You know, profets a Lions fan, and you and him
never got along.

Speaker 3 (01:41:24):
Jesus gosh, that's why I knew we should have gotten
rid of him.

Speaker 2 (01:41:29):
David writes the consequences of nil. Maybe that Arizona becomes
equal to the blue Bloods by developing their high school
three star recruits to have depth on the lines and
pick up five stars, second and third stringer in skilled
positions from the blue Bloods. Thus the blue Bloods lose depth.

Speaker 3 (01:41:51):
Let me explain something, David.

Speaker 2 (01:41:52):
You're not speaking his language. That is a brilliant take.
Arnie doesn't care. He wants to get a transfer from Georgia.

Speaker 3 (01:41:58):
Do you understand three star athletes are not in my vocabulary?
I understand that, Arn'tie. I'm We're a four star, five
star school. Okay, we don't take you're a three star?
Come on here, what's wrong with you? Come on now?

Speaker 2 (01:42:13):
Do you want me to pull up the signing class
to let you know how many three stars you currently have?

Speaker 3 (01:42:16):
Committee? Don't tell me. I'm upset. I want the four
star five star. You know what I mean? When I
go out with the girls, I want nines and tens.
I don't want twos and threes.

Speaker 2 (01:42:27):
Understood, understood?

Speaker 3 (01:42:29):
No, understand that you out of everybody you would understand
that that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:42:33):
Remember last week, mister nobody right, I said, Mike Tomlin
stood on the sidelines like a dick sporting good mannequin,
refusing to make changes. Well, the Steelers scored fourteen points
last night. Justin Field's played all of two snaps. I
wasn't wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:42:51):
I thought he was.

Speaker 2 (01:42:52):
Gonna come in the game more. I wonder if the
philosophy or a plan changed drone delay last night. Haven't
seen one of those before, but I wonder if their
plans shifted at all.

Speaker 3 (01:43:06):
I thought he was going to come in. Well, once
they got down twenty one nothing, it was over anyway, right,
Did it really make a difference who was going to
be a quarterback at that point?

Speaker 2 (01:43:14):
I don't think any team thinks that way, But you're right,
Mustang Manium. My guy in Dallas rites even though they suck.
I'd like to remind you that the Cowboys beat both
Tampa and Washington with Cooper Rush. So let's tap the
brakes a scoach.

Speaker 3 (01:43:31):
Is that supposed to make them feel better that they've
done that?

Speaker 2 (01:43:35):
I think it's more to say I don't think it
was building up Dallas. I think it was more Hey
settled down on this whole watch out for Washington and
that was a big time win because they did lose
to Dallas, and they lost to Dallas whenever Washington was
at full strength. It wasn't like Jane Daniels didn't play
or anything like that. You're not going to hold a

(01:43:55):
loss against them to Dallas.

Speaker 3 (01:43:57):
Not at this point. Look far they are with the
that's way in the past. Who cares about that right now? Uh,
Spaccoli is very mad at me.

Speaker 2 (01:44:06):
If sin butts were candies and nuts planks By far
the worst talker on FSR. Notre Dame had one loss,
has the best defense in college football, deal with it
defeated three top ten teams. Wow, I didn't get the
title game I wanted.

Speaker 3 (01:44:21):
Did What did you say that you were that? He's
ripping you? You got the Actually you said they got
the two teams in there that you wanted.

Speaker 2 (01:44:27):
Yeah, I mean I picked Notre Dame when the bracket
came out to play for the title. So I have
no idea what you're talking about, Sir Paul Wrights. I
live in Dublin, Ohio, right outside of Columbus. For three years,
Ohio State fans are not normal people.

Speaker 3 (01:44:42):
That's what we were talking about. If Ryan Day's going
to get criticized if he ends up losing the championship game.
I said no. But then you made a point that
there's so many lunatic fringe out there. They're crazy, they
are you're saying, I mean, I didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:44:54):
That was Kirk kurb Street. They used the lunatic fringe.
I know you're out there, but I year and clear
of that. Maybe there was frustration because I said they
got a break when Drew Aller threw across his body
into the middle of coverage of thirty seconds left.

Speaker 3 (01:45:09):
Well, I'm the one that's at Penn State. I still
thought they should have won the game. I mean, I
don't disagree with you on that.

Speaker 2 (01:45:15):
You throw across your body with thirty seconds left in
the game to the middle of the field. What are
we doing? I think you got a credit. Notre Dame
too for getting pressure on him. He panicked, mister, and nobody,
hold on, I just read that one. Eric writes, I
want the Vikings to prove to me that this team
isn't like the twenty twenty three team, the team that
went eleven to zero or something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:45:35):
In one score games.

Speaker 2 (01:45:36):
All I've heard all year is that this team is
in the twenty twenty three team. Prove it tonight by
beating the Rams.

Speaker 3 (01:45:43):
That's right, good place to start there. I still like
the Rams, but I think this is going to be
one of the games, just like the Washington Tampa game
that comes out to a field goal. I'm going to
take the Rams, but I think this is going to
be the best game of the weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:45:54):
Nature Boy, that damn kicker denied us a decent playoff
overtime battle tonight. They pointed it in and it wasn't
a full doink.

Speaker 3 (01:46:03):
It hit the upright. It was a full doink, not
a full doink.

Speaker 2 (01:46:09):
Doing noise just because the Washington radio crew would make
you think that he peared it, because they didn't even
mention that it dooinked off the upright.

Speaker 3 (01:46:18):
Oh, they did not shake it going crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:46:20):
Oh, I've got the cut for you a bit. Braden
lost Way just gets the last word before the Sager's
final update. Please talk about that horrible play called by
the Bucks that cost him the game. How do you
do that to your defense? After that goal line stand
didn't get a first down, still pinned inside your own
twenty and hand the ball off to a running wide receiver.

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What in the world are you thinking?

Speaker 3 (01:46:44):
I think Baker Mayfield said his fault he was going
to or at least the announcements said he's taken the
fault for it. Maybe he was going to fake the handoff.

Speaker 2 (01:46:55):
Maybe anyway, I thought he got there late. I thought
that just a handoff was late.

Speaker 3 (01:47:00):
Could have been? Could have been?

Speaker 2 (01:47:01):
Now we got some audio from the post game locker
room coming up next, but first, for one final time tonight,
Steve the Seger's in the house with what's trending. What's
going on? Steve?

Speaker 5 (01:47:09):
Well, we had playoff wins for Buffalo, Philadelphia and Washington.
And as far as that commander's kickers, Zane Gonzalez, the
fourth kicker that Washington has used this year, and yes,
Austin Cybert had the most games kicking for that team
this year, but the man who hit the upright then
it went through Sane Gonzales, the hero three for three
on field goals, including a fifty two yarder.

Speaker 2 (01:47:30):
By the way, before we.

Speaker 5 (01:47:31):
Get to all the NFL, there is, of course the
large fire in West LA. There's also been a bad
fire just about Pasadena, City of Altadena that has a
small population but a lot of damage there. The Rose
Bowl grounds have been used for donations of food and clothing,
and then that got moved out because they needed the
Rose Bowl lots for fire department staging. No horse racing
at Santa Anita this weekend east of Pasadena. Those grounds

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being used by organizations including a power company. Lakers home
games and Clippers home game due to resume on Monday night,
you know, every New Year's Day, and I mentioned this
last night. We see the sun setting on the hills
behind the Rose Bowls stadium. That is one of the
great views in sports in this country. Jackie Robinson grew
up in the neighborhood. You see just above the stadium.

(01:48:15):
Behind those houses are the general mountains we're talking about.
With the Altadena fire, which had over fourteen thousand acres burned,
I looked it up, that would be the equivalent of
half of San Francisco's land area torched. And that's just
what is burned near Pasadena. In addition to Palisades Fire,
West La is another nearly twenty four thousand acres burn

(01:48:36):
The higher winds are returning tomorrow, but the firefighting has
been great in LA this weekend, so the flames never
came over the ridge to us here at the studio
next weekend. In the NFL's Divisional Playoff, the Saturday night
game will be Washington at top seed Detroit on top
on Fox TV. And yes, Washington finished on top on
the road at Tampa Bay tonight twenty three to twenty,

(01:48:58):
so the Bucks finish five and five in home games
this year. Baker Mayfield had two touchdown passes, the one
costly fumble commanders no turnovers, no punts the entire game,
and this was a Washington team that didn't have much
on the ground thirty three carries just eighty two yards rushing,
but the thirty seven year yardfield goal on the final
play does it. They advanced Jayden Daniels two touchdown passes

(01:49:20):
Philadelphie at home be Green Bay twenty two to ten,
Sakuon Barkley nearly one hundred twenty yards rushing Philly nine
and one at home Buffalo nine to Ohero at home
Josh Allen two td passes, James Cook one hundred twenty
yards rushing at a score thirty one seven. The final
over Denver, which finished as season ten and eight. Next Sunday,

(01:49:40):
Buffalo will be hosting Baltimore Josh Allen against Lamar Jackson.
Detroit fifteen and two was off this weekend as a
one seed after winning its regular season finale against Minnesota.
Remember last Sunday night, Detroit was number one in the
NFC in total offense, the one seed in the AFC.
The Chiefs fifteen and two off this weekend. They'll be

(01:50:01):
hosting Houston Saturday afternoon. We had that one more game
to finish up wild Card weekend Monday night, not in
La due to the fires, but the Rams in Arizona
against the Vikings. Winner goes to Philly next Sunday, three
pm Eastern time. The Vikings record, by the way, was
fourteen and three this year. The three losses they lost
twice to Detroit and they lost at the Rams in October.

(01:50:23):
It was a Thursday night game thirty to twenty. That
lead was twenty one to twenty Rams with six and
a half minutes to go. Sam Darnold from USC had
two touchdowns in that game against La. Vikings head coach
Kevin O'Connell. As the Southern California native, he was Rams
offensive coordinator on Sean mcvay's staff in twenty twenty and
twenty twenty one. And remember, the Rams could have had

(01:50:43):
the three seed. They sat starters last weekend lost a
close game to end the regular season against Seattle, so
Tampa Bay was the three seed. Minnesota had the number
one run defense in the NFC this season, allowed just
ninety three yards rushing per game, so that's what the
Rams are up against. And the good news that quarterback
Sam Darnold for the Vikings did practice fully on Friday

(01:51:04):
after a quad injury. Now running back Aaron Jones was
limited that day by a quad injury. He has no
injury designation. And in case you did not see the
voting for All Pro, we mentioned earlier that yes, Lamar
Jackson beat out Josh Allen for All Pro Quarterback, All
Pro being the elite both conferences combined. Minnesota wide receiver

(01:51:24):
Justin Jefferson was a unanimous All Pro selection. The Patriots
hired Mike Rabel as their new head coach. NHL late
game Vegas over Minnesota for to one College Hoops number fifteen.
Oregon won eighty two eighty one at Penn State. The
late game in the NBA went to Phoenix over Charlotte,
which is eight and twenty eight. Washington's record six and
thirty one. They lost their six in a row. They

(01:51:46):
lost to Oklahoma City one thirty six to ninety five.
Okse with a record of thirty two and six. Indiana
won at six in a row one at Cleveland, Sacramento
won at seventh straight, and New York beat up Millwall
key as Jalen Brunson had forty four points.

Speaker 3 (01:52:02):
Back to you, oh wait, wait to sega one more.
I can't believe you didn't give this score because this
is this is the type of garbage you love women's basketball?
Did you see this?

Speaker 2 (01:52:12):
Oh the comeback?

Speaker 3 (01:52:13):
Oh smu, Well listen to this. Black SMU leading Pittsburgh
at the half forty nine eighteen and lost the game
by double digits, by double digits even get out scored
twenty eight to thing in the third and twenty six
ten in the fourth, fifty four to ten in the

(01:52:34):
second half to lose by thirteen.

Speaker 5 (01:52:36):
They tied the largest comeback in NCAA women's hoops history.

Speaker 3 (01:52:40):
Today, I can't imagine even men's.

Speaker 2 (01:52:43):
Is there one bigger.

Speaker 3 (01:52:44):
Than men's At thirty two, I don't even know geez
college or in pro college largest well, I mean, you
know you can do this.

Speaker 2 (01:52:53):
You can google it yourself.

Speaker 5 (01:52:55):
When you had two baskets in the second half, yes,
a comeback and happened.

Speaker 2 (01:52:59):
They were with you're twenty eight.

Speaker 3 (01:53:01):
When you're down forty nine eighteen at a half time.
In girls basketball, usually a team does not come back
no matter because usually it's like lopsided, like like Yukon's
playing somebody bat or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:53:15):
Texas Texas State overcame a thirty two point deficit in
two thousand and six to beat UTSA. But on February
twenty second, twenty eighteen, Drexel overcame a thirty four point
favorite one to beat Delaware a thirty point four point
margin to be Delaware.

Speaker 3 (01:53:33):
So there you go.

Speaker 5 (01:53:34):
Yeah, this was thirty two first half, down thirty one
at the break.

Speaker 3 (01:53:38):
Thanks Steve. Have a good week, buddy.

Speaker 2 (01:53:40):
All Right, I'm gonna play the I'm gonna play the
call from the end of the Washington game and you
tell me what's missing.

Speaker 3 (01:53:46):
Step good, hold down, kick on its way. It is.

Speaker 8 (01:53:54):
The cardiac commanders are the clutch commanders.

Speaker 3 (01:53:58):
Day do it. We'll see you in Detroit ticks at
the door the scond ballOf.

Speaker 2 (01:54:11):
I guess it was just right down the middle of
the uprights.

Speaker 3 (01:54:14):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (01:54:14):
I guess that one was just pured right through the middle.

Speaker 3 (01:54:16):
Must have been. I saw the video of them. I
didn't get to hear the play by play till now,
but I saw the video of them pumping their fists
like they were actually coaching the team.

Speaker 2 (01:54:25):
I'm guilty of that. I can't dog that.

Speaker 3 (01:54:27):
I thought that they were the It was like the
offensive coordinator or something pumping his No, I didn't know
who it was.

Speaker 2 (01:54:34):
I had no idea he was Jane Daniels on his
third down conversion.

Speaker 6 (01:54:38):
Afterwards, I called my number and I was like, oh,
essentially before I told him, hey, you can put the
ball in my hands. So he caught my number, made
cancy miss, and you know, the line did a great
job of blocking.

Speaker 2 (01:54:50):
We got a couple more cuts we want to get
to before we get out of here. But first Arnie's
picks in their next to put a rap on this
episode of Arnie and Playing on Fox Sports Radio. Next,
Welcome back, Mary. Did you have a good trip. We
haven't talked about it much tonight. Was it a good time.

Speaker 3 (01:55:07):
She must not want to talk about it. Maybe not.
I don't blame that. Maybe she didn't have to keep
it too much. Tea and crumpets, Hi, guys, maybe so
good times?

Speaker 2 (01:55:16):
It was great, good good onced you get back? Are
you still jet.

Speaker 3 (01:55:20):
Lagged or I am jet lagged?

Speaker 5 (01:55:21):
It's an eight hour time different so so worst, it's
the worst.

Speaker 3 (01:55:25):
You got to tweet about somebody liking all the music
and said it to Mary. I don't know why you
said it to her. I'm the one that picks it.
That's right, Arnie picks all the music for you.

Speaker 2 (01:55:33):
Guys, learned anything the light detector determined that was a lie?
Are you ready for your picks?

Speaker 3 (01:55:40):
I'm ready to roll, man. I went five to five
on my on my picks last week. I'm just I'm
not going to pick the college championship. That's a week
from Monday. Correct.

Speaker 2 (01:55:51):
You got time, Arnie, you got time?

Speaker 3 (01:55:53):
All right? I'm going to take Kansas City late in
eight and a half against the Texans. Uh. Texans have
zero chance in that game, zero zero. They looked real
good in their win against the Chargers, but you know
what do we expect from the Chargers? They just rolled

(01:56:13):
over a matter of fact, that's the about as good
as the Texas offense looked. No way they've repeat it
could be Kansas City, might it's eight and a half.
I'm all over my Buffalo Bills minus one and a
half against Baltimore. I think it's gonna be a good game.
But Baltimore better bring their offensive shoes with them now
they're going on the road the Buffalo. That Buffalo crowd

(01:56:35):
is going to be awesome. How as you go to
the game, what do you think, Chris? Should I go
to the game?

Speaker 2 (01:56:39):
I know you say this a lot, but you should.
You should take Bath to the game?

Speaker 4 (01:56:45):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:56:45):
I should take my wife to the game. That's a
good idea. Yeah, yeah, that's a long drive, all right.
I like Detroit minus eight and a half against Washington.
That line opened up at ten and a half, Chris, Oh,
immediately immediately a lot of money capable of as we
have Todd Furman, a lot of people if they want
Washington'm gonna jump on that ten and a half. That's

(01:57:07):
different casinos. I'm gonna tak Detroit minus satan half. I
think that's the real line in this one against Washington
and give you the Rams in tomorrow's game plus the
two and a half against Minnesota. I liked that I'm
getting two and a half now instead of a pickup game.
So there's my picks doing them as the police no
longer strictly for entertainment purposes only.

Speaker 2 (01:57:29):
I know that everyone has an opinion on aj Brown
reading a book on the sidelines. He does it every week.
He says, Yeah, I mean, I really don't care. Some
of you act like he walked up, read the book,
kicked you in the face, put you in a chokehold,
and then body slammed you while reading the book. I'm
just it's not that big of a deal. Is Why

(01:57:51):
do you think it's.

Speaker 3 (01:57:52):
A big deal?

Speaker 2 (01:57:53):
Well, anything that he's done quite a bit, and it's
maybe a place that he looks for motivation throughout a game.
Is that bad?

Speaker 3 (01:57:58):
I shouldn't he be paying attention to the.

Speaker 2 (01:58:01):
How often is he sitting there doing things that are
related to his responsibilities.

Speaker 3 (01:58:07):
It shows that he has a lack of interest when
he does something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:58:10):
Or is he focused on himself and trying to make
sure his mind and that is where it needs to be.

Speaker 3 (01:58:14):
All right, I'm focused on myself. Every time you talk
I'm just going to read it. I pretty much do.

Speaker 2 (01:58:19):
Yeah, So I don't think you have a leg to
stand on on this one. Yeah, but Ralph ried Sorr,
I'm sorry. Ralph Vacciano, who is an NFL reporter for
Fox Sports, never heard of him, he said. As of
one thirty am Eastern Time, the self help book that
AJ Brown was reading has moved up to number one

(01:58:41):
on the Amazon bestseller list.

Speaker 3 (01:58:43):
Oh wow.

Speaker 2 (01:58:44):
It was around five hundred thousand whenever he was first
caught reading it. So he's moved up to number one
that book on the best seller.

Speaker 3 (01:58:57):
What was the name of the book? Would you say
it was? I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (01:59:00):
It was just it was some self help book that
everyone realized, see Pete, I saw a couple of different
people had it.

Speaker 3 (01:59:06):
But yeah, I mean, I don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:59:08):
But I don't have a problem with it. If you
need inner excellence is what it is, Jim Murphy, train
your mind for extraordinary performance and fullness of life.

Speaker 3 (01:59:19):
Yeah. I think I read that one already.

Speaker 2 (01:59:20):
Doubtful, but there you go. So AJ Brown is gonna
get clowned. But as he said tonight, it's not anything
different from what he's done pretty much all season long.

Speaker 3 (01:59:33):
Why why do you read during the games? And what
does it bring to you?

Speaker 4 (01:59:36):
Man?

Speaker 8 (01:59:36):
They giving me a sense of peacements pie. That's a
book that I bring every single game. My teammates called
it the rest of you. You know, that's the first
time I heard that. Y'all got me my camera. That's
not a first game.

Speaker 3 (01:59:49):
You know. He got a lot of points in there.
It's a lot of mental games, a lot of.

Speaker 2 (01:59:52):
Mental Yeah, So it's a lot of mental work for him,
Arnie Okay, even though Jalen Hurts, even though Jalen Hurts
said he's ever seen him read before. Everyone has their
own thing. So just because it doesn't fit with what
everyone else does, I don't have a problem with it.
I think I have the bigger problem than only having
on one or two catches to have a great week.

(02:00:13):
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