Chris Plank & Arnie Spanier react to the Cowboys falling to the Vikings, Chiefs eliminated from the Playoffs & MORE!

Chris Plank and Arnie Spanier react to the ongoing Sunday Night Football game between the Cowboys and the Vikings, the implications that will affect the NFC East, then transition into discussing the Chiefs falling to the Broncos and being eliminated from playoff contention along with Patrick Mahomes suffering a season ending ACL injury. The guys then discuss the Colts starting Philip Rivers, just the decline of starting QBs throughout the league, then Todd Fuhrman joins the show to discuss the outcomes from a busy week from Week 15 in the NFL.  

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio radio. Let's go, stinking genius.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Let's go, big boy, let's go.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
What a time to be Arnie Spaniard right now.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Huh clank, how about you?

Speaker 3 (00:14):
I got a playoff game on Friday. Can't wait?

Speaker 2 (00:17):
How was the game?

Speaker 1 (00:18):
I wonder?

Speaker 2 (00:19):
How was the Army Navy game?

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Oh? You actually? Oh my god, Brie writing down, Arnie
actually asked about something in my life to start.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
I always ask you about your last style.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
I don't I don't even know what to do with
this right now.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
It was great. It's an awesome experience. If you haven't
ever gone to Army Navy, you need to go. It
is a day that will reinforce your love of America
and football. And it was great. It was great. It
was awesome. Uh. The USA does an incredible job. They
are so good at promoting that game. They treat it

(00:52):
like a super Bowl. There is a media row on
the Friday before the game. Wow, you got a Scotch Hey,
scottsh barrel Man. We got to get in on that.
It is amazing. Baltimore hadton hosted the game since six
so and I had never been to Baltimore before. Now
I got to spend a lot of time in Baltimore
this morning because little snow kind of slowed things down.

(01:13):
I'm getting out of town, like I was on one
flight on one plane that was taking me to Orlando
to catch a connection after my first one got basically
missed right and they went out, they'd de ked the
plane and by the time they finally aked the plane
already they had to come back to the gate because
they needed to put.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
Gas in the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Again. It was a it was a terrible travel day,
but everything you could want in in that kind of
game with great finish. The first quarter lasted like twelve minute.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
I saw it.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
I was watched like twelve minutes.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
Yeah, I was, I'm like, my good, how are they
gonna make this last three hours?

Speaker 1 (01:50):
About?

Speaker 2 (01:50):
They tried to in the third and fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Man, there was a couple of lengthy reviews in some
dramatic moments, but yeah, it was great.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
It was a great experience in baltim was awesome.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
They're moving the game. I don't know if you knew that.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
They they're moving the gamer out all the time now.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
No, I mean they're they're moving the game to a
different date, to a difference that's the rumor.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
That's the rumor. You're speaking of it like it's happening.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
I mean, do you have a source on this one
or is it another fake account that's got you.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
No, it's it's a it's a real it's a real one.
Because the playoffs are gonna go ahead and they they
are going to overlap it, so they can't have that
going on, so it's only natural they're gonna move it.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Well, you're saying that as if it's a done deal.
I mean, I've literally lived it and talked about it
all week and long, so I'd like to know what
you've seen.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
I just I don't know. Are you questioning me.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
I'm the same guy that said that the Dolphins would
last longer than the Chiefs when the Dolphins were one.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Well, I don't think you are.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
I'm the one that.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
Said my bat that the Arizona Wildcats mirror mirror on
the wall, who's the best team of them all?

Speaker 2 (02:54):
I'm the only one.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
That said that, So I don't think you're in a
position to dup me on anything.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
It took two minutes into asking me about my weekend
Brie and Mary before he made it about himself. I
mean literally, he couldn't take it minutes. Yeah, he's definitely, definitely. Yeah, Well, congratulations,
and you got the NBA Cup. When are they finally
gonna play that game on Tuesday?

Speaker 4 (03:16):
We're gonna we'll have to put up a banner. And
didn't the Lakers put up a banner for what?

Speaker 3 (03:21):
I believe they did. I believe they did.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
He did too.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Actually, it's the only thing we won in a while,
So you gotta celebrate whenever you can. But yeah, your
Arizona Wildcats are number one. I guess you can say
your Dolphins are still alive in the playoffs right now,
though nothing that needed to happen today happened.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
For no that that kind of I think we only
have like a five percent chance of making the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
It's still pretty far fetched.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
But that's not having you slow down at all. Now
you're even now you even moved the goalpost. Now it
is that the Dolphins were gonna be alive in the
playoffs locker than the Chiefs.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
I do as I said, we were gonna win every
game left. It's going to happen. I'm the one that
said we would outlast the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
You never said you were.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
I'm the one that said it was over for the
Chiefs and you're like, what are you dying about?

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Show me the body, right, is what I said.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
I'll believe the body there.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
You well, I mean it took them losing games, you
had them finished after like week three, but it was done.
What a terrible what a terrible way for things to
end for them, And not only.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah, that was horrible, absolutely horrible.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Not only losing, but then to lose Patrick Mahomes. And
I mean again, we're not I don't know what the
prognosis looks like. I I know what acls and the
recovery it's usually a year. So is he going to
be out a majority of next season?

Speaker 4 (04:40):
Now, yes, Toby, at least I think so. Look, I'm
not a doctor.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
I just played one on the one.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
You are just full of affirmations and yes and knows
here tonight taking away s taking genius.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
Oh yeah, there's no way he's going to be ready
for the start of the next season. That's that's an impossibility.
And matter of fact, I don't think you really want
to rush him back because he's still has a whole
career ahead of him. I mean, let's assume was eight
to ten years. Wouldn't you assume, you know, again, this
is somewhat common.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
I mean, he's thirty. He turned thirty this year.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
Thirty, that's that's not I mean, he can go to
forty Chris. I mean, let's let's be honest, me might
not want to be after that. But well, hold on, Rivers,
but yeah, hold on.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
A second, Hold on a second. How many quarterbacks do
we see that consistently improve as they get older to
the point where they're playing at forty Not many? You know,
Philip Rivers comes back at forty four because quarterback development
sucks so much. Tom Brady's a unicorn, now we'll get
into don't worry. Tom Brady's a unicorn that played until

(05:43):
he was what forty three. I mean, obviously Stafford's changed
the game a little bit here, but I mean Stafford
still you're looking at the guy that's thirty seven. I mean, so,
I don't know, man, it's just we're not We're and
Aaron Rodgers, how to see? Look he looks old? Yeah right,
Aaron Rodgers looks old out there? How do other guy stretch?

Speaker 4 (06:04):
He looks a lot better after we got him off
the Jets, though, does he not, and then oh, of course,
but he does he still hear him? Do you still
see a guy that looks like he's what he once was?

Speaker 1 (06:15):
No, So this whole like, and if I'm a Chief
fan right now, I'm not mad.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
I'm not upset.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
You've been the consistent dominant force in this conference and
in this league, and it's hard. I mean, the Patriots
went ten years without a Super Bowl win, and I
just I would assume that's something that's still on the
table here for Kansas City. But again, Mahomes has never
really had an injury like this.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
You make it sound like this is the beginning of
the end then of Patrick Mahomes' career, is what you're
making it sound like.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
I'm just saying he's thirty. It's not the easiest thing
to bounce back for thy more years.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Do you think he has left in the NFL?

Speaker 3 (06:53):
I mean, quarterbacks are play longer.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
I'll give that. I don't know. He seems to have
a lot of interests outside of football now, right He's
got ownership stakes in different leagues. Seems like he loves
the game. I'm not saying he's retiring this year or
anything of that nature, but that right, But now his
contract becomes a major part of eating up that salary

(07:17):
cap for Kansas City. Right now, they got to work
around that and find ways to get created. But I
don't know. I mean, it's just dude's thirty towards ACL.
Modern medicine is amazing. But I mean, he's not gonna
be back for the start of next year. Will he
even be back by week five or six next year?
So it's tough, man, It's tough to come back from
something like that.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
And what direction do you go into? I mean, do
you go with a young quarterback? Do you go with
just an old veteran to takeover some snaps or some
games until he gets back.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
It's it's certainly a dilemma, right, it's you what are
you gonna do? And then how will it play out?

Speaker 4 (07:53):
I look, I think he's got a good eight to
ten years left. Well let's just say eight on the
short side, to make sure that you don't rush him
back and worry about the rest of his career and
the rest of his NFL career, So you can't you
can't rush him back or anything like that. I'd probably
expected to miss probably eight games or something to that effect.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yeah, I'll be real curious to watch this and how
they do plan around him. And I don't think Malmes
is going anywhere. I think he's gonna play quarterback for
a long time. I honestly, arnie my opinion, watch the
guy week in and week out, having him ruin my
sundays for the better part of the last ten years,

(08:34):
even when he was in college. He's a baller, he's
a grinder. I think he loves football. So I lay
all my concerns out just to say there's gonna be
a lot of people that say, oh, yeah, he'll be back,
no problem.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
I don't doubt that he's going to be back.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
But man, as you get older and those types of
injuries happen, and he really hasn't had any injuries like
this before. That's both good and bad. Right to see
how he's going to respond, and sometimes these one injury
can beget another one. So I just say it's worth
keeping an eye on.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Would it be inappropriate?

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Go ahead?

Speaker 2 (09:09):
I'm just asking because this is the way my mind works.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
Maybe Mary should have her hand on the dumb button
and YO, dump that dump that if it's inappropriate. Would
it be inappropriate to bet on who comes back first,
Parsons or Mahomes.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
I mean, do we know Parsons officially has a torn
a cl now? I mean it was looking on contact, right,
do we know that officially on him?

Speaker 4 (09:33):
Yet it's believed to be so if it is, is
that going to be like a Vegas prop or something
like that.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
If it is, we are true degenerous.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
I mean, I'm sure it's out there with calse or
whatever it is, and you can bet on it. But
if that's literally something that you're out there putting odds on,
I really hope that you're reevaluating where you are in life.
And then if you're somebody that's slaying there like hey,
d I'll take Patrick Mahomes. I mean, it's just now
I want to address something real quick, right off the top,

(10:03):
because as soon as you brought up Patrick.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Mahomes, I knew this tweet was coming.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
JV writes Adrian Peterson towards acl on Christmas Eve twenty eleven,
made a full recovery, played all sixteen games, and arrested
for two thousand yards the following season. Mahomes can easily
be back for the start of the twenty sixth season.
Jimmy JV whoever you are. They don't make him like
Adrian Peterson. No, they don't ahead say that that is

(10:32):
that is a different dude. And you are also talking
about when Adrian Peterson was in like his fourth year
of his career. He I mean two and eleven. I
mean this was prior to him winning the MVP. This
is all. I don't even know if he's thirty at
whenever this happens. So you're talking about a guy that

(10:57):
is built a little different than anyone we ever seen
in our life. Number two, you don't have to compare
Patrick Mahomes to the fastest healer in this whole thing.
Mahomes is also thirty, you know, and again we have
modern medicine that's made things. I'm just I'm not trying
to be negative about his future at all. I'm just saying,
if your first take that you have is wey, Adrian

(11:19):
Peterson did it and got back so Ken Mahomes. I
don't know if that's something you want to rush. I
just I don't. Not everyone has built like eighty was.
It's a different world.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
Do I have to ask the next question now, since
both Partisans and Mahmes and if.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
You ask if you can bat on them, I might
be out.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
No, no, no, no no, I'm just wondering why is this.
It seems like it's happening more.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
I don't know why athletes are in so much of
a better shape they are than they were what twenty
thirty years ago?

Speaker 2 (11:49):
I don't know that.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
Are you asking about non contact injuries or acls.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Or yeah, yeah, a non contact ACL.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
I don't feel like it's happening anymore than it normally does.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
We just have better looks at it.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
Is that what it is? Video?

Speaker 3 (12:02):
No, I'm are you saying that it's happening more often
than you It.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Seems like it is.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
OK.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Maybe it's just higher profile players.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
I guess, yeah. I mean, guys tear their ACL every season,
lots of them, do. I mean, I just I was
actually thinking like, whoa wow, I guess we haven't had
because you had Daniel Jones ruptured as achilles and then
last week it was Man, it feels like we haven't
a lot of Achilles injuries and you're like, oh, wait,
that's the NBA. I mean, I just I feel like
just because you had it happened twice on the same day,

(12:32):
or and he doesn't mean it's suddenly some problem in
the league, right.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
Well, yeah, I just I guess it's more high profile
players than it happens too, and it's just too bad
that well you just.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Are you saying that you think it's some problem in
the league. You're the two guys had it happened today?

Speaker 4 (12:48):
No, And you're right when you brought up the NBA
also with the Achilles. I'm just wondering why these non
contact injuries happen like that. It's just crazy, especially in football,
when you're getting backed around like that and you're surviving
and then nobody touches you and you're gone for ten months.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
It's absolutely nuts.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Maybe it's me.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
I feel like it's happening about the same degree as
it always does.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Should I be right? You know, maybe there's someone out
there right now that's saying, blank, you're crazy. It's happening
way too much and they've got to fix it. But again,
were we know more the royal We not me. We
know more about our bodies and ways to recover and
ways to rehabilitate, more so now than we ever did before.
Everyone talks about the good old days to be like

(13:33):
all right, Patrick, good surgery, I don't know, like smoke
pack cigarettes a week and you'll be good. I mean,
we're we're learning how to take better care of our bodies.
I just I wouldn't rush this if I was the
chiefs I guess going back full circle, and then I
guess I would also say, alreadie, I don't think this
is some sort of issue that's taken over the league
right now with the injuries. Now, I will post one
other quarterback issue with you before we grab our opening

(13:55):
time now. Todd Furman is back. Bria's in tonight running
the show. Bree's working a quadruple shift this week, and
or at least I think she is. So Steve Di
Saga's updates breathe.

Speaker 4 (14:05):
Fire our other producer for rooting for the Jets or
something like that, wherever you.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Want to phrase it. That's fine. And he was he
was a Vikings fan Nnesseeahawks. Okay, that's the man. He
deserves to get fired and move to another show. Mary
Mack is here tonight running the show. But I'm looking
at the NFL draft board right now because that's the
only thing I have going for myself in line and
the Raiders are sitting there at number two. The Giants

(14:31):
are at one, and I don't know why I gave
it out of order, but the Giants had the first pick.
Right now, the Raiders are second, and then there's Tennessee
at three. Everyone assumes that the Giants and Tennessee aren't
going to go after quarterbacks, right because just had cam
Ward last year for Tennessee, and I don't know, I
think he's showing some progress.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
But is Jackson Dart's play sustainable?

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Like? I love the kid, I love his moxie, but
I feel like he's gonna get knocked out every single
time he runs the football.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
Are you afraid that they're gonna take a quarterback? Is
that what you're listen?

Speaker 1 (15:00):
He's I'm not worried about anyone taking that goofballman doze
over the Raiders.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
If he ends up as a Raider, I'm fine with it.
And I love the guy and that'll.

Speaker 5 (15:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
I like him man, Yeah, yeah, I mean I like him.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Being somewhat facetious.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
But I uh, I just I don't know.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
If you're the Giants and you look at that, you
could feel overly confident about in the NFL unless that
dude learns how to get down Arnie. He's got to
get it. He's not even built like Jalen Hurts you know.
I mean, it's just I worry a little bit if
I'm a Giants fan right now. He took a shot
again today.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
Oh I'm not worried about him. Yeah, I'm okay, worried
about him getting hurt. But he's the he's the quarterback
of the future. There's not even a thought that.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
You're not worried about him. I don't doubt that he's that,
he's got a future. I just worry about whether or
not he can stay on the field.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
That's a problem.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
I think about this, think about people that want quarterbacks replaced.
I mean, this is absolutely insane. It was one thing
when people were picking on two and and I understand that,
but you now you got people like, well, you know,
Jalen Hurts, man, you gotta think about drafting a quarterback.
Did you not win a Super Bowl recently? For crying

(16:10):
out loud? And then Lamar Jackson, he's got to go? Man,
was he not two time MVP or something to that?

Speaker 1 (16:16):
In face?

Speaker 2 (16:17):
God's to go?

Speaker 1 (16:18):
He's not.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
You know, So people that want these replacements so quick,
you know, look, what's around. I mean, the Colts have
to bring in somebody that's one hundred and forty four
years old. So be careful out there what you wish for.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
I mean, I know you can't see you in my handout,
but you're kind of the person that leads a lot
of these charges about dudes that need to get benched
or cut or not. You're like the conductor of that train.
You tell me every single week, hot, terrible Lamar Jackson
isn't how the Ravens need to move on. And now

(16:53):
you're chastising people for one to say the same thing.
You say, I learned it from watching you, Dad.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah I did.

Speaker 4 (16:59):
I did say, Yes, you have to move on from him,
and that is true. It's time to move on from
that guy. You know, enough is enough.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
I mean, this guy is not playing an elite level
and I would think about moving on from him.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Though.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
Did you watch the Ravens game today?

Speaker 4 (17:13):
Look, I'm just not so much to what's their record?
Chris tell me that what is what?

Speaker 3 (17:17):
There's seven and seven and for their division.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
So you're you're agreeing with what I said the first time.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
No, I'm not. I'm not agreeing with I think it's
the dumbest thing you've ever said that you think Lamar
Jackson stinks. There's seven and seven and they're a half.
They're a half game out of there, the first place
in their division, and they just shut out Cincinnati, who
everyone was gaga over because Joe Burrow was back, And
now you're coming in here like, well, he's terrible, And

(17:46):
I can't believe people would say they need to move
on from a quarterback and then literally in your next
breath you said they need to move on for Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
I'd rather have Joe Burrow.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
Now, if you can get Joe Burrow on your team,
there's because you know, there's a lot of teams that
coun certainly benefit from somebody like that, no doubt about that.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
But you don't think they could benefit by getting Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 4 (18:06):
You know, Lamar is a good quarterback, and I'm sure
there are teams that would benefit also. I'm just you know,
I'm just disappointed with the way it's turned out for Baltimore.
They're one of the three biggest disappointing teams in the
NFL this year.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
What the hell are you talking about anywhere? The playoffs
right now?

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Can we do we have a producer today.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
Can somebody give me the record of Baltimore maybe I'm
talking about it? Is there a Baltimore Raven team that's undefeated.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
You sit here and you brag about a Dolphins team
every single week.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
That is, Chris, we were one and if.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
They were going five or one in five or whatever
they were to start the season, and there's a seven
and seven right now, you continue to dump on them.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
This is because the same way you acted when I said, Hey,
I know Miami's won in six, but the last longer
than the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
You never said that you're lying. Stop lying, I'm stop
lying doing that. You never have already. You never ever
said on this show, on this show that the Dolphins
were gonna last longer the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Did I say that it was over for the Chiefs?
How long would I say?

Speaker 1 (19:13):
You say it every week when they lose a game.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
I demand that we get tweets from our listeners.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
I don't have one, mister, Nobody will tweet there.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
I will tweet demand it.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
You never said that the Dolphins will be in the playoff.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
Chase, just tell blank that I said about two months
ago that it's oh the e R for the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
I demanded to tweet that him.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
And I never said say that you're adding your moving
the goalposts on this And now don't make me go
big vanilla dude, whatever his name is, and just talk
over you all night long. Okay, I'll steal this microphone
and not let you talk. Stop lying to the people.
You have buried the Chiefs, but you have never ever said, oh,
the Dolphins will be in the playoffs longer than the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
The math, the math.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
You have one game tomorrow night that if you lose,
you're out of it. Anyway, We're not losing tomorrow, Chris.
Well if you lose them all. By the way, this
team that you buried, and you think that sucks in
the Ravens is in first place in the AFCs North.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
That's okay. Well, and they had a easy schedule too,
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
So easy. That's right. All right. When we come back,
let's start diving into a couple of the injury notes,
including the latest on Micah Parsons. It's onny in Plank
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Speaker 3 (21:08):
A couple things.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Number one, Cowboys are about to try an on sidekick
with nineteen seconds left, yep, to get the football back
trailing thirty four to twenty six. I don't listen. I know,
I understand they have to do it, but I hate
to kick the field goal and try the on side kick.
I'm going to say it never works, and this might
be the one time it works. But everything's a Hail

(21:33):
Mary on this front anyway. I guess. So Dallas about
to suffer a really, really, really rough loss, especially after
what happened with the Eagles today dominating the rate.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
Well, who's not dominating the Raiders exactly. Vega's got clabor today.
Oh Vegas, it's terrible.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Oh ball was loose for a moment, but Minnesota is
going to recover the on side kick and the Vikings
will implrove to six and eight with a thirty four
to twenty six win over the Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Well, Dallas falls to sixty seven and one.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
I do have a question for you from last segment
real quick before we move on.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
Sure, since we.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
Were talking about Kansas City, what do you make at
Travis kelcey a nose show at the podium after the
game today. And look, I understand it's emotional. Your quarterback
went down postgame pressors. I see what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Yea, yeah, I know you're just when you said the podium,
I always think whenever we talk about the Chiefs, them
being up like up on the day is celebrating something.
So this is new for me as well.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
I'm just wondering, you know, he obviously the quarterback goes
to Your quarterback goes down, very emotional. Even though I
don't think he's retiring, it could have maybe been his
last game if.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
He changes his mind. Doesn't he owe his fans?

Speaker 4 (22:43):
And I mean that's like saying a big blank you
to your job. That's your job to do it. I
understand that he was upset, but and I know there's
nothing you could do. You could He has all the
money in the world, His girlfriend has all the money
in the world, so he could do whatever he wants.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
But it just kind of sucks because that he just
kind of blew that whole thing off.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
Blew off. So just didn't he get booted from the game?

Speaker 4 (23:08):
Well, he can still has to show up, though, I
mean that they have to ask him for it, then
he has to show up for it.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
That's what he was you know, you know, asked for
they wanted to speak to him.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
Yeah, and I don't think you had I don't think
you're necessarily contractually obligated to do it. Dudes don't do
postgame press conferences all the time. And I imagine, I mean,
he's not gonna not talk to the media. He's Treravis
Kelsey and Annie. If you want to hear what he
has to say about it, listen to his podcast. I mean, honestly,

(23:40):
I so you feel like that because I hear what
you're saying.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
And it was a big criticism.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
I was reading about it on Twitter and people were
writing about it and saying that.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
I was Are you sure it was real? Accounts?

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Yes, those were very good, very good.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
We are tracking some horrific news tonight out of Hollywood
where we've lost one of the great directors of all time,
and this looks like a very heartbreaking tragedy. Rob Reiner
and his wife, Michelle Singer Reiner have both been found
murdered in their Brentwood home, according to reports. TMZ is

(24:17):
reporting this as well too. I noticed Seger's keeping an
eye on it. But Rob Reiner all in the family
was where I got to know him as a kid,
and then he became very politically involved.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
But I don't care about that, Ni. I love the
movies that he made.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
When Harry met Sally stand by Me, Princess Bride, one
of the all time greats. Just a terrible tragedy tonight
as we try to unpack what's happened to Rob Reiner.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Yeah, I saw another story that I'm looking at right now.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
Will you please make sure it's real.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
It's from People News magazine.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Okay, just making sure, just making sure.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
Yeah, I mean, it's a horrible story. It says Rob
Reiner and his wife Michelle were killed and they bring
up the person who did it, and that's the disturbing
part in the story here it says it was killed.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
They were killed by their son.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Yeah. I again, like we said, we don't have all
those details. That's one of the reports that's out there
right now. But just an absolute terrible tragedy that uh,
you know, just horrible whenever you lose anyone, and you
see the reports around this one, and it's just scott wrenching.
So one of the all time Hollywood greats.

Speaker 4 (25:28):
There was a report that Billy Crystal actually was at
the house left and was just you could see it
was an emotional wreck. That was somebody put an account
on that out and I and I believe.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
That just I remember he lives in Brentwood.

Speaker 4 (25:43):
Also, this is this is Brentwood, California, which I'm very
familiar with. So it's just all the you know, afu
and people that live right around each other. I just
it's just horrible. I was a big fan of his.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
It's just it's just horrible to see something like this.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
A very incredible family with his father and all the
success he had and obviously the careers that he spawns.
So we're thinking tonight about rob and his wife. Terrible
tragedy in Hollywood, brit would to be exact. We'll keep
eyes on this all that long if we have any
developing situations. No really easy way to segue, but Steve
de Seger is here with everything that's trending in the
world of sports. After a big day for his Chargers.

Speaker 5 (26:20):
What's going on, Steve, and he also directed a few
good men.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Oh what a great way.

Speaker 5 (26:25):
Yeah, yeah, superb as you guys started the hour talking
about Army Navy, by the way, and just the opening
scene of the military alone, aside from how great the
script is and how great the movie is, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
It is a final.

Speaker 5 (26:38):
In the Sunday night game at Dallas, Vikings beat the
Cowboys thirty four to twenty six. JJ McCarthy three total touchdowns.
Denver clinch to playoff spot beating Green Bay thirty four
to twenty six Bo Nicks four td passes. The Broncos
are twelve and two. They're undefeated at home. They've won
eleven straight games overall, and by the way, green Bay

(26:58):
pass Russia. Mic Arsons X of Dallas did leave with
a non contact knee entry. The Rams clinched a playoff.
Berth with a home win against Detroit forty one thirty four.
The Lions at eight and six, may not make the playoffs.
Pookin Nakou of La AD nine catches one hundred eighty
one yards Coming up, It's the Rams at Seattle this

(27:19):
Thursday night. The Rams are eleven and three. Seattle now
eleven and three after escaping eighteen sixteen over Philip Rivers
and the Colts thanks to a late fifty six yard
field goal. Rivers, just signed out of retirement, did have
a touchdown pass got his Colts a thirteen to three
halftime lead, but Seattle won the game. It looked like
the Colts were going to take it at Dream finished

(27:39):
kicking a sixty yard field goal late for the lead,
but an even later long field goal wins it for
the home team. San Francisco over Tennessee thirty seven to
twenty four. New Orleans came back to beat Carolina twenty
to seventeen on a forty seven yard field goal in
the final seconds. The Charger comeback victory at Kansas City
was sixteen thirteen. The Chiefs are six and eight, officially

(28:00):
eliminated from the playoff race, and quarterback Patrick Mahomes of
Casey tore an acl late in the game. Buffalo was
trailing at halftime at New England twenty four to seven,
and still beat the Patriots thirty five thirty one, ending
the Pats ten game winning streak. Jacksonville won its fifth
in a row, ripping the Jets forty eight twenty Trevor
Lawrence five touchdown passes and a TD run. Houston, with

(28:23):
the best defense in the NFL, got out to a
seventeen to nothing lead in the first quarter, so it's
pretty much over then forty to twenty the final, Houston
over Arizona, which has lost six straight. Philadelphia sent the
Raiders to an eight straight loss thirty one nothing the finals,
So the Raiders become the first team since the divisions
realigned over twenty years ago to have ten different seasons

(28:46):
of at least twelve losses.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
There you go, pint congratulations that they are two and
twelve right now, and in Cleveland's three and eleven, so
about tven.

Speaker 5 (28:56):
Another twelve long believable Chicago beat in Cleveland thirty one three.
Shudur Sanders through three interceptions, was sacked five times. Washington
ended an eight game losing street getting to play the
Giants twenty nine twenty one Commanders. The final Giants have
now lost eight straight and Baltimore is still very much
alive for a division title. Seven and seven the record

(29:18):
after a shutout win at Cincinnati twenty four to nothing.
Derrick Henry eleven carries one hundred yards. In the NBA,
the Lakers, now eighteen and seven, won a close one
at Phoenix one sixteen one fourteen with three late free throws.
The late game has ended with Portland beating Golden State
one thirty six, one thirty one despite forty eight points

(29:39):
from Steph Curry. New Orleans and Washington each one on
the road. Women's basketball saw Louisville ranked twenty second win
in overtime at number twelve North Carolina. Texas beat Baylor
and an upset, and the women's volleyball NCAA Tournament Texas
A and m is onto the final four after upsetting
number one Nebraska, which was under defeated.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Back to you, yeah, I look to Sega. I don't
want to tell you to do your job, but you
really should.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
Give that Arizona Alabama score again from from Saturday night.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
I think that's worthy.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Let's go back to let's go back to Saturday night
when we have a full slate of NFL games and
college games to talk about.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
But no, no, no, any more about you.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
I'm just I'm just helping them out, Pike. I'm just
trying to help out my buddy, the zeger.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
That's all.

Speaker 5 (30:26):
Just trying to hear the words help and buddy somewhere.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
That I just know.

Speaker 4 (30:30):
I figure people want to know that Arizona Alabama score
in case they missed it from Saturday night.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
You know, that's all.

Speaker 5 (30:37):
It is sufficing to say a dominant season. Shall we
use that word?

Speaker 2 (30:42):
We're not losing this year.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
I told you remember this, Pike, We're not losing this year. Okay,
did you hear Hello, We're not.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Losing this This will be something that he'll manic here.
They might finish like twenty twenty five undefeated, but you're
not gonna roll through the Big twelve undefeated. So I mean,
nice stutter?

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Did I stutter? We are not losing this year?

Speaker 1 (31:04):
And I know again twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six,
you will lose games. I'm just preparing you for it.
Everyone loses in college basketball. Gonzaga. That was good tonight.
That was good tonight beating UCLA. I was watching I
was watching.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
Watching some hoops last night late last night.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Sorry, sorry, sorry, another one of those games that I
was watching for some reason on the replay this morning,
and it fooled me. It was like one of those
games that he has been put on at four in
the morning, like, why are they playing it this time?
And I just take off?

Speaker 5 (31:32):
That was the actual tip off time.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
Yeah, it was like it was pretty good. Were you
guys still on the air the game was going on
last night?

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yeah, we were just getting off the air. Yeah, we're
just good.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Where were you really, hey, I boy, this shift on
the East Coast is a bear. Eleven to two A
no wonder you need to take so much time off now,
one of you don't do anything during the week. It's
a lot.

Speaker 5 (31:55):
D had forced him to move, and then he realized
he didn't actually switch time.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Yeah, exactly. I mean I got to get to the
Central time zone or the West Coast or something.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
I got to go back to the West Coast. I
really do.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
And so this shift is not fun for the East Coasters.
And what's up with it getting dark at like four
point thirty? What are you people doing? Give me a
little bit more time with the sun. AT's like four
o'clock and the sun's going down by the way. Baltimore.
Have you been to Baltimore before? Is that a city
where you worked and had to show at some point?

Speaker 4 (32:22):
No, I've never worked driven through there, but never stopped.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
One shocking. I thoroughly enjoyed my time in Baltimore. I
liked it a lot.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
There crabcakes, a lot of them, a lot of them.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
We had an event after the game on Saturday night
and they had these, uh they took the crabcakes. They
made him into almost like balls, so it was a
pre it was like an appetizer, so instead of like
the smashdown cake, it was like crabcake balls. Already. I
might have eaten about sixty of them. I'm not a kid.
It was so good. So I love you, Baltimore. I
want to come back. Racking the Raven State is awesome.

(33:01):
It's it's the perfect stadium for an NFL team. Two
massive jumbo trons, big screens, whatever you want to call
them in each end zone. It was great for the
Army Navy game. I hope they continue to rode those
through there.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Those helmets are like a work of art. Really, which
one the Army one year? Yeah, it is both of them.

Speaker 4 (33:19):
They're just they're just tremendous, absolutely tremendous.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
I love them.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
And they did a whole explanation on how they made them,
and you know whatever.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
The year out and stuff. Yeah, it was it was great.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
I encourage everyone if it's we were having the debate
about whether or not they should continue to try to
move it a little bit more towards the Midwest. You know,
Jerry Jones just talked about wanting to bring Army Navy
to Jerry World. Uh, it's actually I think it. They
played it out of Pasadena one year. They did in
the eighties and they ended up, I think almost busting

(33:50):
their budget on on flying everyone there.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
Yes, Seger said they get at they get a good
viewership on TV.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
They Yeah, it's the only game going on Saturday.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
But are you were as much for that game as
that James Madison against whoever playoffs is?

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Oh boy, and I hear tickets are very available right
now Oregon fans. If you want to get out and
support your Ducks this week and against against James Madison,
ticket sales plenty available.

Speaker 5 (34:18):
That game is opposite the Packers Bears rematch on Fox
Saturday night.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Oh wow, I was so excited about that game too.
I'll be covering college all day long. But real quick,
one final thought on Army Navy. You are right, the
American Conference Commission is working hard right now to see. Okay,
are they going to keep it on this weekend? Are
they going to move it up a weekend? If they
keep it on this weekend, we'll it be in competition
with playoff games? What's that?

Speaker 3 (34:42):
What's the playoff schedule? E were gonna look like?

Speaker 1 (34:44):
If it's fourteen or sixteen teams? I mean, you know
what the number of teams is for the playoffs next year, right,
don't you? Guys? It's a trick question.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
We don't know yet. I think College as it decided.

Speaker 5 (34:53):
Yes, except the rules are different for Notre Dame and.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Yeah, exactly, Now apparently Notre Dame's being included everyone.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
It's like, we didn't agree to that, So it's funny,
but they agreed.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
That's all that matters.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
Let's get let's get into their crying coming up a
little bit next hour, all right, And Sonny Spaniel on
Chris playing Steve segu will have another update coming up
in about fifteen minutes from now. But when we come back,
we've got injuries that we need to dive into next
on Fox Sports Radio. Oh, so Verdam was the guy
that was uh, that was triggered afterwards.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
There was more than just him too.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
Well, you sent me one tweet, so I mean that's I.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
I was just I decided to just go through Twitter
and that was just one that came up.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
There was there was other ones too.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
If he says I don't want to talk right now,
I'll talk to you later in the week. Yeah, you
really throw your hands up and they're like, where's the leadership?
I mean, that's you. That's your big takeaway from that.
He got ejected from a game and I.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Just asked you what you thought about maybe.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
The finn Travis Kelcey here tonight for Goodnesstakes.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
They're supposed to send what one or two people uh
to face the media, and I guess he was supposed
to be one of them and he just didn't show.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
That's all. It's the media, yo.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Good probably get fined for it, that's all.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Now. If you what's the fine for missing a press conference?

Speaker 2 (36:12):
In the Alor Swift will make a song out of it.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
I'm sure she will. Of all the things I think
we should be talking about is the Chiefs. Who cares
if he did or didn't show up for the press conference?
Is this a team because you're gonna hear about it
from every single fan. Oh, we'll be back better next year,
you just watch right. Well, you know they will be
because they should be. The coaches. Well, we think Andy

(36:36):
Reid's gonna be back right, And who knows, there's always
retirement room.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
That's another one. If I was Andy Reid and I
know that Mahomes just went through a tragic injury, I
would think about I'd have to sit down and say,
do I want to go ahead and cut you know?
I know I'm gonna get him back in week what four, five, six,
to take a little while for him to get up
to speed. Who knows, I may have to think about retirement.

(36:59):
Maybe it is. There's the time to say I'm going
to walk away from the game.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Here is here's what Andy Reid said afterwards about mahomes injury. Now,
you're not going to get much here from Andy on
his future, but this was in the aftermath from someone
who did show up for the press conference.

Speaker 8 (37:14):
Patrick hurt has left knee, who will get an MRI
tomorrow or this evening whenever they get him in there
didn't look good. So how you guys saw it, I
want to see where it goes.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
I will say Mahomes is one of those guys though
that I feel like he And again I'm not doubting
the reports. This is a torn acl by any stretch
of the imagination. But where I brought up the incredible
healing power of Adrian Peterson that allowed him to come
back as quickly as he did after the injury in
twenty eleven. All right, Let's also keep in mind this
is a guy in Mahomes who we've seen about five

(37:51):
or six times where we thought he had ended his
career with like a broken leg or an injury, and
he ends up being fine.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
I think I remember he had a bad overturned his
ankle and we didn't think he was going to be
able to play the next game, and there he was
so out there. I can't remember when that was, though, I.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
Want to say that was last year, last year or
the year before, because I know exactly what you're talking about.
I remember it and we all thought, oh my gosh,
he's going to be out for a while, the Chiefs
might be vulnerable, and then he went back and took
care of it. How about this take real quick off
of the X from Brendan. I think it's time, he writes,
to give the Raiders their pink slip from the NFL.

(38:29):
Are any of their players not named Bowers, Genti or Crosby,
even Jags just a guy? Except for those three, the
roster wouldn't outperform a D two school. And I feel
like Pete Carroll has decuted himself from the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
Brandon, It's so bad, dude, it's.

Speaker 4 (38:49):
Embarrassing, right, And every year you have hope too, Oh
I have?

Speaker 1 (38:53):
I mean I had hope up through Week five of
this season, I really did, and the bottom completely and
totally fell out. Everything they've tried to do this year
is not only wrong, but completely and totally embarrassingly wrong.
They've given up thirty or more points in four oh
what is it, one, two, three, Yeah, in three of
their last five games. Uh. The only team that they've

(39:16):
been close to in this whole stretch is actually the Broncos,
and it took a late touchdown to even make that
look somewhat bearable, right because they had the late touchdown
throw by Kinny Pickett. They might fit. They're not gonna
win another game. They've got the Texans, the Giants and
the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
What would you give up to get Joe Burrow?

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Everything? Everything? What do you want? You take it? Max
Crosbie you can have, and.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Max Crosby, Bowers and Crosby.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
Well, I'm not gonna give you Bowers because he got well,
I got my I've got my rules here. Come on youah, you.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
Got to have at least one guy left there.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
I mean, why would Burrow want to go from Cincinnati
to Vegas? Joe Burrow to the Jets. I would find
ways to fix things in since he before. I'd want
to be traded to the Jets for goodness sake, exactly
like the odds are that the next team is going
to be the New York Jets. Why why would you
go there? Why would you put your way at the
door for that? And you got to get receivers still

(40:14):
in Cincinnati? All right, that's our one when we come back.
Do we have I don't know if I noticed this
on the rundown. Do you have a who season came
to an end and who saved their season to get it?

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Yes, I did.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
All right, we'll hit a Roman numeral five and we'll
talk a little bit about Notre Dame's crying.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
All week long. Next right here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Stick around, you're listening to Fox Sports.

Speaker 9 (40:36):
Radio Radio or I'm Steve de Seger.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
Here we go Hour two with Arendy and playing on
Fox Sports Radio. A lot of stuff to get to
this hour, including Todd Furman. Yep, next segment, how to
go last night? You were on during your Arizona game.

Speaker 4 (40:52):
Yay, nay, no, yeah, we the Arizona game started a
little bit late, so I when from nine to thirty five,
let's say, like nine Easter I got on the air
eleven o'clock Eastern.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
So in the last.

Speaker 4 (41:08):
You know, just when the second half started, it was
for some reason it started late. There was so much
backup on TV. And that's when Arizona just started making
their big run. Every time I kept looking up, they
just kept scoring and scoring it and scoring. Gosh, there's
nobody better than us right now. We may never lose again.
How about that, Chris, in the history of college basketball?

Speaker 2 (41:30):
Yeah, as long as you and I do the show
they may never lose again.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
Yeah, we've done it for a little over a decade now,
so that's pretty.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Would't that be great if they didn't lose for a decade.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
It'd be like one of my Madden franchises. You just
never lose and then you're able to restart even if
they do lose.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
I can't believe we've won this many games against that
star studded you know schedule, Yukon and Florida, and it's
just it's gotten out a hand. Alabama and Auburn and UCLA.
It's just get kind of crazy, I guess, getting to
kick their crap out of them too.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
Well, the entire Big Twelve. You've got Kansas, You've got
Iowa State. It's pretty good.

Speaker 4 (42:09):
Big twelve is incredible. I mean, it's absolutely incredible.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
Baylor is usually pretty good. I haven't checked on much
this year because I've got a college football playoff game
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up a really good point earlier on the quarterbacks in
the NFL. Yeah. I think it's cool the Phillip his story.

(43:01):
I think it's also pretty concerning that whenever you look
around the league, the Indianapolis who have been set back
by injuries. I mean, think about how cursed Anthony Richardson is,
right right, you finally have a shot, but because you
had a band that snapped during a warm up or
something that like hit him in the eyevy, literally the

(43:22):
worst possible bad luck injury you could have. Or Anthony
Richardson would likely be their quarterback. But even the rookie
they took this year, and Riley Leonard was so bad
that Shane Steikn was like, let's go find a guy
that hasn't taken a snap in like a thousand days
and see if he can get it done. Now.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
I saw the stats. I saw the highlights.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
Didn't get a chance to like all in, it wasn't
on red zone a lot. But what'd you kind of
make of of Philip Rivers? And is it a sign
of a bigger problem in the NFL right now? Because
there's a party that wants to say the Colt season
came to an end today, right, But I also I
wonder if developing quarterbacks kind of came to an end

(44:02):
today too, because Rivers seems somewhat serviceable.

Speaker 4 (44:05):
Look, it was, it was a good story. I enjoyed it.
I wanted to see it. I wanted to see what
would happen. I want to see what would happen the
first time they had a full fledged bloods and somebody.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Pounded him into the ground.

Speaker 4 (44:16):
If he was gonna get up or if they were
gonna carry him off in a stretcher or something like that,
and how many yards he was gonna put up and
if they were gonna keep the game close?

Speaker 3 (44:25):
Do you say carry him off in a stretcher?

Speaker 1 (44:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (44:27):
Yeah, I just I want to say he was gonna
be able to walk off. I was listening to actually
VJ and Hartman a little bit today and they asked, Hartman,
do you think that the Colts could win this game.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
He goes, never, they have no chance what so have never.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
So you know it was it was a pretty close game,
no doubt about that.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
The bigger story is why we can't find quarterbacks.

Speaker 4 (44:53):
It's it's amazing the lack of talent we have after
the first I don't know, fifteen twenty with all these
great quarterbacks also in college football, I can't understand why
they're at least not serviceable when they get out of
college and go to the NFL.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
I don't understand why, even if they don't have the.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
Best arm or you know, they just don't have the
best players or whatever it is, you should still be
better than having the team go out and get a
forty four year old or just a lack of talent.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
It seems like it's just absolutely insane. Where you see
some of these quarterbacks come from schools I never even
heard of the two schools, d three schools. It's it's amazing.

Speaker 4 (45:36):
So I don't know, Chris, I don't know if it's
a lack of talent, a lack of coaching what's going on.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
But it's lack of patients I think is out there right.

Speaker 4 (45:49):
We're talking about backups though, I mean, I mean, we
just don't even have proper backups. We don't even have
thirty two good starters in the NFL. Chris, It's amazing
that we don't have a good NFL starter for every team.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
Well, I will add this, the Philip Rivers story was cool, right.
In fact, this is so when I I'm gonna play
his audio that I'm gonna crush it just like you
pretty much did. But here was Rivers. I love the
shot of his team watching who I don't know why
they put them in a hallway and made them watch
the game on a TV in the hallway, which is
what it looked like. But here was Philip Rivers.

Speaker 10 (46:25):
Grateful, I mean grateful, running out for warm ups and
all that, and out there from the anthem and as
the game just got going, I was just thankful, grateful
that I was out there. And it was a blast.
It was a blast. But obviously the emotion was now
our disappointment, disappointment. You know, I'm this isn't about me.

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You know, we were on a team that was scrapping
like crazy to trying to stay alive and get in
the postseason. So obviously we're all disappointed.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
There is I don't know about you, Arnie, that that's cool.
Forty four year old dudes the game for a little bit,
come out, throw a touchdown, pass, slinging around.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
But it shouldn't be something that ever happens in this league.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
No face, Philip Rivers. No fence to any quarterback who's
come out of retirement to play a game, No man,
we should have good enough young quarterbacks, developed quarterbacks. This
is why, I I mean, is our level of expectation
for these guys just too high? Do they have to
be too perfect in order to really get a shot.

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I mean, don't get me wrong. Riley Leonard looked awful
whenever he came and off the bench last week. But
I don't know, because I'm kind of with you.

Speaker 4 (47:36):
It's it's amazing because you know, some people say arch Manning,
it could be a number one pick, and he's the
he'll be a great NFL star. Yet the Dolphins had
his the starter ahead of him and he's a.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
Third string in yours.

Speaker 4 (47:50):
Yeah, and he you know, he shows maybe a little bit,
But I mean, you know, what's the truth here?

Speaker 2 (47:57):
You know, it's shoers.

Speaker 4 (47:59):
All of a sudden, not a good quarterback all of
a sudden in the NFL where arch Manning is going
to be the best of everything and be the number
one pick.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
I just scratch my head with some of this stuff.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Again, arch Manning's not coming out this year, so I
know it's just you keep bringing that up. But it's fine.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
I was expanding.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
It can come out right now. If he wants to
stop it.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Well, I mean, of course, yeah, he's in charge of everything,
but I I don't know. I love the idea of
quarterback development and I love learning as much as I
can just about the process and watching these dudes. And
I'll see guys that I think look pretty good and
they're like, oh, yeah, they'll never play in the league.
I'm like, why, Well, he just he doesn't have enough
zip on his on his ball in my cap, but

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he's putting it where it needs to be every single time.
Or they might say he's not accurate enough. Well okay,
but I mean, what do you need a guy to
be in the NFL to be a serviceable backup, to
be a guy that you can count on to win games?
And it's almost as zip. It's an untainable level right
to be an NFL quarterback anymore. That's the only way
I can come up with Philip Rivers at forty four

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being the guy they would go with outside of a
dude that's been on their roster as a backup all
season long.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
Intertion, I wonder what other people they were considering other
than I wanted never Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
How about them starting to float this with Brady now too?
Is that something you would want to do? Sounds like
now with the Raiders, But I just I thought it
was cool. I don't think it's something that should have
to happen. We should be in a position with players
quarterbacks in the NFL that you're not having to dip
into dudes that are high school coaches now and are
out of the league. It's just, you know, what's the

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funny it is to me?

Speaker 4 (49:32):
In the NBA, when a Star two is out, you
could have a bench player who never plays come in
and score like twenty five thirty points in the game,
and then go right back on the bench. I mean,
it's amazing that they could have a great game for
one game because the Stars are out and able to
take on over. But yet we can't even find a

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serviceable quarterback to take over for the starters in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
You know, I watch It's funny that you say that
because I watch a lot of Oklahoma City Thunder basketball
and they had a guy named Chris Youngblood. Who have
you heard of Chris Youngblood before?

Speaker 2 (50:10):
No?

Speaker 3 (50:10):
No, He's a rookie out of Alabama.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
And I'm watching I'm watching a game the other night
and he's in for like eight minutes and he's just
he's attacking the rim, he's making buckets. I'm like, where
did where did this guy come from? And I think
he didn't finish with a ton of points. I was
trying to look it up here. I think it was
like five or ten points that he had. Maybe, But
it's a guy that came in and was able to

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do some impressive things for you. You just don't seem
to have that at the quarterback position. Like you go
to the backup you're like, oh, well, we're doomed. We're
outside of Marcus Mariota against the Raiders this year.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
You know what, we even see stories about emergency goalies
who are forty years old. I come in and win
games in the ed AHL, but we can't get a
serviceable quarterback in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
It's amazing. It's just so weird, all right. And then
the other thing, are we now accepting that Joe Burrow's
career at Cincinnati with the Bengals is that across roads?
Is this kind of where we are now? He didn't
play all that well today and Cincinnati lost and they
were never gonna make a playoff run. But the noise
seems to be loud now. He clarified it today after

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the game, and I'll play it for you coming up
here in just a bit. But is it is it
time to start wondering if we'll see him in another
uniform officially? Now, I know you've heard saying this for
like ten years, but.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
Yeah, of course, of course I've been telling you this
for a long time.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
He's gone. You don't have that type of attitude.

Speaker 4 (51:37):
And remember, now, Chris, he got his wide receiver signed. Okay,
he got contracts. They signed all the big contracts that
they needed to go ahead and sign. They built that
team around him. It's not like they just left him
bare and they're like, hey, Fenn, for yourself, what you
you hear your moment?

Speaker 1 (51:56):
They built it like Arnie Spaniard would build it, though,
because you got them all the receivers and.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
You forget that's what he wanted though.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
But you forgot about the offensive line.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
But he said he wanted to give the money to
Chase giving me money.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
It just said you wanted ice cream for dinner.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
I mean, there are certain times where you don't let
the kids run the show. Here was Joe Burrow whenever
he was asked about his future in Cincinnati.

Speaker 5 (52:20):
You still have confidence in the people in the front
office and the coaching staff that they can get this
roster in a place and this team in a place
where that wouldn't happen next year.

Speaker 11 (52:29):
A lot of confidence because I know how hard people
work at it. We got the right people starts, the
players playing better, and today was me.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
On the outside. You got a lot of fans they're
gonna say that the organization's top to bottom front office
doesn't have enough people or the right people in place.

Speaker 9 (52:47):
You honestly feel that they do and why.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
This is a team effort.

Speaker 11 (52:52):
You know, at the end of the day, players got
to play better on the field. Today Today was me,
I gotta be better.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
What do you feel like you could do it?

Speaker 2 (53:00):
He's just repeating himself.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
Under the bush.

Speaker 4 (53:06):
We are a team, and it was on me today
and I've got to be better, Joe.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
You know that there's that a new car you're driving.

Speaker 4 (53:14):
It was on me today. I've got to be better.
It was on me, Joe, what are you gonna do
with the off season?

Speaker 7 (53:21):
On me?

Speaker 2 (53:22):
It was on me, got to be better.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
I get it. I understand he doesn't want to call
anyone out, but he didn't call anything.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
He's just repeating himself. I can do his interview.

Speaker 4 (53:33):
It seems doesn't want to call anybody out. Joe said
that he's got to be better and that he'll be
better next week. Any other questions, thank you?

Speaker 1 (53:41):
But where do you you bring Joe Burrow into Vegas?
Does that make them a better team? Absolutely? Bringing to
New York doesn't make him a better team. You bet
it does. But I mean, none of those franchises have
shown that they're gonna be any better at building a
roster that's going to consistently have success than what you
have Cincinnati right now.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
I mean in the super Bowl and have been in
the playoff.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
Mix.

Speaker 4 (54:05):
Well, you know you always hear about Minnesota so you
can get reunited with Jefferson. You hear a lot of
rumors of him being shipped around. I know there's so
many teams that would love him. It's absolutely crazy. So yeah,
I don't think you'd have trouble finding a home, that's
for sure.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
That's not what I said, though, that wasn't my point.
My point is for him. You know he's not going
to Minnesota. You say Justin Jefferson, He's playing with one
of his college wide receivers. He's playing with the guy
that he threw two more in college. Justin Jefferson was
the second option. Jamar Chase was the first, and that's
who he's playing with right now. If anything, if I'm

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the Cincinnati I'd go get Justin Jefferson.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
Really make it crazy. He's not going to Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
I mean the place he's gonna end up is going
to be a place and has multiple draft picks that
you're willing to send him. And those places are the
places like the Jets are the Browns and they're in
the division. You're not going to send him there. I mean, Arnie,
I look around, where's he gonna go? Like, where would
Cincinnati send him that they could get some sort of return.

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It's gonna be with a team that stinks.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
It's gotta be a big return. Also, it can't be.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
It's gonna have to be.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
Yeah, we're talking what how many first round drive picks here? Three?

Speaker 1 (55:18):
I don't even think it's a conversation. I'm just I mean,
I don't even think you're willing to trade him. I
think you spend your career as franchises trying to put
yourself in position to get guys like Joe Burrow, to
get guys like Matt Stafford in Detroit whenever he was there,
and get guys like Trevor Lawrence. You find the ways

(55:38):
to protect them and develop them. I think now I
could be crazy. Maybe he's at his WIT's end and
he's saying all this publicly and he's going to them
trading me right now. I don't know, but it's just
I just I think I would do everything I could
fix that, wouldn't you.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
Of course, I wouldn't want him to leave, absolutely not.

Speaker 4 (55:55):
I mean, especially if I'm with the organization or I'm
a Cincinnati fan.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
That's the last thing I want to see done.

Speaker 4 (56:01):
I would just say, h chalking up to a bad year, Let's,
you know, do something about that offensive line. If that's
the major problem, Let's work on that defense. Obviously they've
got major problems there, but you got the wide receivers
and you know it's not taking a it's not like
it will take a major overhaul. You're still better than
the Browns. Baltimore didn't have a great year that The

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top of the division is seven and six, so it's
not like you have a whole bunch to climb up to.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
By the way, we've said a record, we've gone an
hour in seventeen minutes without bringing up maybe the game
of the day, and that was the Bills and the Patriots,
which I'm I mean, how many times did you try
to declare the Bills dead in this one?

Speaker 4 (56:38):
Yeah, my wife was screaming like crazy at that game.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
It was.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
It was insane. You know, the Patriots have nobody to
blame with themselves.

Speaker 4 (56:45):
They let that one just slip away, and you know,
everybody's like, oh, well, this one's done, this one's over.
Bills came out in the second half and and destroyed them.
It was It was a great game by the Bills
in the second I just enjoyed that thoroughly, even though
I needed them to lose for my Dolphins. That was
a Chocola by the Patriots, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
Yeah. Well, I mean again, you have very slim chances
to make the playoffs. You have to win. But everything
that needed to happen for you today did not, Right.
You needed the Patriots to beat the Bills, you needed
the Cardinals to beat the Texans, and you needed a Seahawk.
Well you got the Seahawks to beat the Colts. Yeah,
that's you got one of the three things you needed.

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Speaker 3 (57:56):
W In with Arnie on Plank. He's Todd Furman.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
Todd, we were just talking before the break about the
comeback by the Bills kind of showed us a little
bit of something. They've been a bit of a roller
coaster ride the last few weeks, but I thought that
was gutsy on the road to do that.

Speaker 12 (58:10):
I think what we see from Josh Allen is kind
of indicative of who he has to be for this
team to have success. If Josh Allen has an off day,
they're not going to be a good football team the
way they're currently constructed. He has to take the team
on his back and navigate through some of those troubled waters.
In this case, it was a twenty four to seven
deficit at the half and a defense that had been
run over and run through by Travion Henderson and Drake

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May early in the game, but no doubt Buffalo asserted
their dominance so over the final twenty minutes or so
and reminded us why they're going to have a lot
to say about who ultimately emerges from the AFC now
that we know the big, bad Giant Kansas City Chiefs
have officially been mathematically removed from the playoff picture.

Speaker 4 (58:50):
Todd, it had to have been one of the worst
days in Vegas sports book history. I mean, those big
double digit favorites all covered.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
The Bears covered. It wasn't even close.

Speaker 4 (59:01):
They must have gotten except for Seattle they didn't cover,
but they must have gotten clobbered.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
Today.

Speaker 12 (59:06):
A lot of the big favorites were able to get
to the window. You had a couple of interesting public underdogs.
Denver gets there outright as a you know, one one
and a half point dog thirty four to twenty six.
But the bailout game, while it did go over the total,
and Sunday Night Football, you had a lot of people.
So I thought there was no way the Dallas Cowboys
will boost to a Minnesota Vikings team on the outside
looking in. So I imagine when it Talies come in, it

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will not necessarily be a banner day for the books,
but I don't think it'll be as dire arny as
you kind of alluded to. They do get the home
underdog in New Orleans too, went out right against Carolina,
but I'm sure they would have preferred if Kyle Shanahan
on fourth and one decided to run the football and
believe the clock rather than kicking the field goal to
take that game from ten to a thirteen point mark.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Yeah, it's a lot of that.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Yeah, yeah, that was that was unique, And I don't
know if it will raise as many of alarms as
Pete Carroll's decision to kick that field goal last week.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
Well, but that'll be interesting.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
Hey, are you seeing much action on the college football
playoffs or will we see it ramp up as we
dig deeper into bowl season.

Speaker 12 (01:00:04):
You'll see a lot more start to come in as
we get closer to kickoff. But quite frankly, two of
the four games that are going to be played in
the opening weekend aren't going to move the needle for
recreational betters. They're not going to wrap their head around
the two lane Old Miss game with the Rebels a
seventeen and a half point favorite, nor really run to
the window to try and make compelling cases for two
way action with Oregon more than a three touchdown favorite.

(01:00:25):
The standalone game on Friday night I think will do
big numbers, given the prestige of the two programs between
Alabama and Oklahoma, and then even the early kickoff on
Saturday between Miami and Texas. A and m a couple
of household brands, some familiar faces on both sides. But
those two late games on Saturday are going to pale
in comparison to the betting handle we'll see on the
Eagles Commander's game, and of course the Saturday night are

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on Fox between the green Bay Packers and Bears, even
if that game does lose some luster without Micah Parsons,
potentially without Christian Watson, Evan Williams, and the list goes
on for the amount of starters that green Bay may
be without for the return trip to Soldier Dodd.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
Even though it seems one sided, why wouldn't the public
be hammering Oregon or Ole miss if they feel so
bad about Tu laid and James Madison.

Speaker 12 (01:01:09):
It's just not a kind of game that really gets
everybody excited. You need a couple of big brands, and
when you're going head to head with NFL games where
people are familiar with the players. Look, I mean, I'm
not going to dispaar age JMU or Tulane playing by
the rules and getting into the tournament, but you know
these aren't games when the College Football Playoff was expanded
to twelve teams that we're going to get people that
excited or involved. Whereas if you had a Notre Dame

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in one of those matchups or Miami playing at Oregon,
potentially Mario cristoball up in Eugene, or one of those
teams going to Oxford going to meet for a lot
more interesting viewing and typically betting handle is consistent with
the eyeballs on the sporting event, and while college football
fans may not want to hear it, there's a reason
the ESPN and ABC pushed to get the two games

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on their network and relegated the other two to TNT
and HBO.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
Max, What did you make of Notre Dame's approach this week?
Just one final college question, then we'll get back to
the NFL. And now I guess we're going on two
weeks with kind of the public backlash. What was your
takeaway from it?

Speaker 12 (01:02:08):
Yeah, selfishly, as someone who's going to be in your
backyard for the game Friday night, playing, I wanted to
see Notre Dame there in Norman taking on OU for
Alabama coming out there, not quite as intriguing a matchup
allbeit on the field, you know, de facto coin flip.
But look, I'm not going to fault any of these programs.
If the players are voting not to go to a
bowl game, I know a lot of people are going

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to be critical for some of the seniors who may
never get the chance to put the pads on again.
I'm not in that locker room. I'm not around the program,
so I can't speak to it with an educated opinion.
But the one thing I will say, and people you
know go, oh, well, they ever you know, should go
out there to play. Florida State went out there and played,
and they played with nobody, and that may have been
the most devastating loss for them, losing sixty three to

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three to Georgia, and the program three years later still
hasn't recovered when they were left on the outside of
the college football playoffs. If Notre Dame thought this was
in the best interest of their football program to regroup
and coming to twenty twenty six stronger, I'm not going
to fault them in the least for deciding to pass
on the Pop Tart Bowl and a potential Holy War
game against BYU.

Speaker 4 (01:03:08):
All right, Todd, let's get over to the Kansas City Chiefs.
Just saw what happened to Mahomes. Absolutely tragic. Obviously he'll
miss the rest of this year, I think part of
next year.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
How do you even put up a number like.

Speaker 4 (01:03:19):
An over under win total for Kansas City next year,
how do you even evaluate what they're going to do.
How much does it go down if it wasn't Mahomes
even playing next obviously he'll play, but if it wasn't
going to play, how much does that drop over on
their win total?

Speaker 12 (01:03:36):
Odd makers are going to have their work cut out
for them to figure out what the diagnosis will look
like in a realistic timeline for Patrick Mahomes to return
from that torn acl we know modern medicine gets these
guys back on the field faster than ever before, but
I think a realistic timeline is that maybe he returns
in the middle to late October, so potentially missing five
six games. We're not sure what this Chiefs roster will

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look like. And I think selfishly, as football for we're
all anticipating Travis Kelcey retiring at the end of the year.
You'd like to see Patrick Mahomes the Travis Kelcey at
least one more time before one of the best to
play his position hangs it up. So that part is
a little bit bittersweet. But we know this sport isn't
always about fairy tales, and everybody riding off into the sunset,
and unfortunately for the Chiefs, you know, eleven years of

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being in the postseason comes to an end, and we
probably saw the last touchdown reception from Travis Kelcey catching
one from Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
Are you buying the Bears at all right now?

Speaker 12 (01:04:30):
I think the road for the Bears got significantly easier
with how injured Green Bay came out of today's contest
with the Denver Broncos. That was a game where you
figure green Bay was going to open right around a
field goal favorite before anything was played today. Right now,
you're looking at green Bay just a one point road
favorite for their trip to Soldier Field. It's a Bears
team that I'm sure feels like they let a glorious

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opportunity to slip through their fingers to win on the
road outright as a six to six and a half
point underdog last week at Lambeau. This Bears team continues
to get better. They believe in what their offensive philosophy is.
I really think Luther Burden is going to be an
absolute star and we're going to be talking about him
as a top ten receiver. Those of us who've watched
college football know what he was able to do at
Missouri while he was there, and I think they're just

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starting to scratch the surface of him taking that Aman
Ross Saint Brown role like we saw with the Detroit Lions.
I think the Bears defense still leaves a little bit
to be desired. They're probably arriving a year ahead of schedule,
and we know how difficult it is for rookie quarterbacks
that make their postseason debut. That it's only the upper
echelon that are truly able to navigate through that. So
I think the Bears just getting that playoff experience would

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allow them to build up some scar tissue, maybe win
a game. I don't think they're a legitimate threat to
win the NFC, but here we are, and they have
a chance not only to be a legitimate threat, but
maybe be the number one seed if things break the
right way for them, given all the chaos we've seen
in that conference.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
You know, Tod, I had a question for you. I
was trying to think what team I was thinking of. Oh,
that's right, the Dolphins. Tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (01:05:56):
They're on their straight I told you, Todd, everybody wrote
them all if we didn't right back, they're right there.
I don't think they'll make the playoffs though. It's just
too far vetch right now, though, Todd.

Speaker 12 (01:06:06):
This is how far we've gone, guys. It's the year
end and we're starting to get sound effects for Arnie
talking about his Dolphins. This is how I start to
get a little bit more concerned. And we'll see exactly
what the Dolphins have in sort tomorrow night. I mean
that as a game where we know how good Pittsburgh
has been in prime time, especially on Monday nights, playing
at home. From a straight up perspective, but the Dolphins
do have an excellent chance to get the five hundred

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and Look, if you're able to win out and go
ten and seven, nobody else appears to be running away
with these other wildcard spots. The Indianapolis Colts, despite their
best efforts, came up short. Their schedule remains daunting. You're
only going to get one team coming out of the AFC.
North Kansas City's been a root from the equation. So
in a season where we've had all sorts of improbable
scenarios play out, if the Dolphins can pull off a

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modest upset tomorrow, it's something I don't think I would
have been saying six weeks ago, but everything very much
in front of them, with home dates against the Bengals,
the Bucks and a chance to go on the road
to New England may punch their get to the postseason
and keep New England from getting that number one seed
in the AFC, which now is an uphill climb given
Denver's win earlier today.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
Danver still shocking to me. Man, all right, Todd, let's
have a week. Thanks for all the inside well, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 4 (01:07:12):
He's you just gonna let him go like that when
he's supposed to say thank you, Arnie.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
You're right.

Speaker 4 (01:07:17):
After two months ago, I told you, hey, Todd, bet
my Arizona Wildcats in basketball, they'll beat Auburn, they'll beat Alabama,
they'll beat you cla, they'll beat Connecticut, they'll beat Florida.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
You don't even thank me for that, Todd.

Speaker 12 (01:07:31):
I mean, look, I can't say anything negative about what
we've seen from the Wildcats after their last two wins.
That makes them Alabama State champs, you know, hanging it roughly,
you know, damn near one hundred on Auburn and Alabama,
winning each of those games by twenty plus points. We'll
see if your Wildcats are for real, a relatively soft
schedule coming up. Well, I'll be at a game on
a neutral against San Diego State before they get into

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the heart of conference play. But you know, a throwback
to the loot Olsen days, and we'll see if Arizona
is a legitimate threat, not just for number one seed
to be playing deep into March. The last I checked, Arnie,
you don't win a national championship and cut down the
nets before Christmas.

Speaker 6 (01:08:06):
You do that in early April.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
Start betting them now, my friend, it's a done deal.
Bet we're not losing this year at all. Let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
Let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:08:14):
Hey, Todd, have a great week, but we'll talk to
again soon.

Speaker 12 (01:08:16):
Always a pleasure, guys, You guys like DoD.

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
I like how we're in this era where everyone has
gambling at their fingertips and we're all trying to give
better information to be more right, and you.

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
Still like, I don't think we'll ever lose.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
Just pick them.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
Every single time.

Speaker 4 (01:08:30):
I've been right everyone, you're gonna give me crap for
being right. I don't understand this, Arnie.

Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
You're saying that they're never gonna lose a game again.

Speaker 4 (01:08:37):
Oh, okay, I believe, being a little sarcastic, they may
not lose this year.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
Thank you too. We got like what fourteen sixteen days
left in the air well where I was.

Speaker 4 (01:08:47):
Just because I know, just because I'm getting it right,
just because I'm the only person on this planet that
said Arizona was gonna win those games.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
That's all there, You go, all right. Steve de Sagery
is in the house. He has everything that's trending in
the world of sports. What's going on? Steve?

Speaker 5 (01:08:59):
Meanwhile, well, if the Dolphins lose tomorrow, they'd be six
and eight and eliminated, just like the Chiefs are six and.

Speaker 4 (01:09:04):
They're not gonna lose tomorrow. Why would you start the
update with like that? Why would you start it like that?

Speaker 5 (01:09:08):
I'm saying, these are the mathematical possibility.

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
Are you guaranteeing a win on Monday night?

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
I talked, I've been talking for two months now.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
Do you not hear me about I bought it?

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
Am I stuttering? Is this thing not working?

Speaker 4 (01:09:21):
When I told you we were one and six, we
were gonna win ten games?

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
Am I stuttering?

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
Gosh?

Speaker 9 (01:09:27):
Ten games?

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
Wow? Wow? Okay?

Speaker 5 (01:09:30):
On a more realistic path, the Philadelphia Eagles are about
to be the first repeat winner in the NFC East
in over twenty years because the Cowboys lost tonight. They're
six seven and one. Dallas beaten it home by Minnesota
thirty four twenty six. Philadelphia is gonna play this Saturday
on Fox TV a game at Washington, and Philly can

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clinch the division title. Then Green Bay will be at
Chicago Saturday night on Fox opposite those two playoff games
on tn T. You mentioned in James Madison at Oregon.
Denver Broncos won their eleventh game in a row. Bow
Knicks four touchdown passes in a win against Green Bay
thirty four to twenty six. Broncos clinch a playoff spot.

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Rams clinch a playoff spot beating Detroit forty one thirty four.
And then there's the Raiders, who today had seventy five
yards of offense. That's pretty good total, just awful net.
This hadn't happened in two years to anybody in the NFL.
For the Raiders franchise, they're low is and it's only
happened once. Came in nineteen sixty one in an AFL game,

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to be lower than seventy five yards of.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
All George was the quarterback probably.

Speaker 5 (01:10:40):
Kansas City six and eight after losing it home, blowing
a ten point lead late first half, Chargers sixteen to
thirteen the final, and Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes tore in
acl late in the game, So the Chargers sweep the
Chiefs for the first time since twenty thirteen. No AFC
West team had swept the Chiefs since twenty fourteen.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
Denver.

Speaker 5 (01:11:01):
Wow, really, we have a new king in the division
and it's the Broncos, who are still undefeated at home,
by the way, and we did have six teams that,
like the Chargers, were down ten and still won the
game rams as well the New Orleans and Seattle games
Atlanta on Thursday night. The Seattle win was eighteen sixteen

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over the Colts on a late fifty six yard field goal,
and the Saints beak Carolina in a comeback twenty to
seventeen on a forty seven yard field goal final seconds.
San Francisco and Chicago each got wins. By the way,
with that Saints win, we can update how many games
in the NFL have been decided in the last two
minutes or overtime. Well, this is in just about the

(01:11:43):
last two seconds when the kicker booted the winning field
goal for the Saints. That's fifty three different NFL games
so far decided that way late, and the guy who
kicked the winning field goal, this kicker is part of
the International Pathway program in the NFL. Charlie grew up
playing Gaelic football, born in Northern Ireland, but he got

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a scouting combine date a year and a half ago
and a pro day and a contract with the Saints
and winds up being the hero at the end today.
Wow Washington ended an eight game losing streak with a
win at the Giants, who have lost eight straight. Philadelphia
and Chicago each one. Houston won its sixth in a row,
Jacksonville won its fifth game in a row, and Buffalo

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was trailing at the half at New England twenty four
to seven and still beat the Patriots thirty five thirty one.
That ends a ten game winning streak for New England.
So as we look at the NFL standings, the one
seed in the AFC right now is not New England.
It's the Denver Broncos. That's right, one game better than
the Patriots, and at the moment, Jacksonville as a Division

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champ would be the three seed. We would have Chargers
at Steelers for first round of playoffs or Chargers at Baltimore,
whoever wins that division. It would be Buffalo at Jacksonville
and Houston at New England. The Colts at eight and
six losing today would be out in the NFC. Detroit
at eight and six would be out, and it would

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be Green Bay and the Chicago Bears, perhaps in a
first round game, although things will change in the standings
because green Bay is at Chicago. As I mentioned this
Saturday night on Fox TV, the late game in the
NBA went to Portland over Golden State one thirty six,
one thirty one, despite forty eight points from Steph Curry
from three point range, he was twelve for nineteen. Lakers

(01:13:33):
Edge Phoenix back to you, thanks.

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
Steve a Lakers Edged Phoenix and Brianna Miro, our producer
is very angry. She is on a tweet storm right
because you feel like Lebron was using the officials to
his advantage.

Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
To night Bury, It's more the.

Speaker 13 (01:13:50):
Fact that like Lebron like pushed an official and like
nothing happened. Stillan Brooks like was kind of got near
Lebron and immediately got caught for a foul and then
was immediately ejected right.

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
After that bad break.

Speaker 3 (01:14:04):
Let's call it Spada, Spad.

Speaker 9 (01:14:05):
He's acting like a baby.

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
He needs to just fire JJ Redick, fire the whole
just give you the whole franchise. I'm sorry, Steve.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
She's ready for the Laker. Mary's ready for the Lakers
to cloth. That was wait. Listen, whenever we come back
to Sager has got all the things we missed with
the segment. I do want to remind you, though, that
every goal starts with an assist on and off the field.
That's why Haleyon and US Soccer are launching for the
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All right is wait what it is that time? Whenever
Steve de Sager comes rolling in to go more in
depth on his update. Been called to this segment, which
I like quite a bit, so I well, Arnie doesn't

(01:14:57):
like it. You're Steve Sager.

Speaker 5 (01:14:59):
Hello, and there's an ap item that a Joe Burrow
team in a game in which he started, had not
been shut out until today since LSU was shut out
by Alabama in twenty eighteen.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:15:12):
Baltimore won at Cincinnati twenty four to nothing. Today the
Bengals are four and ten. Borrow through two interceptions, including
a pick six. Bengals offense on third down conversions three
for fifteen. Derrick Henry eleven carries one hundred yards, rushing
Baltimore up to seven and seven, still with a chance
to win that division. Lamar Jackson two touchdown passes in

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the second quarter, and here in the first quarter, the
Ravens offense had nine yards on nine plays. And they're
going against the Bengals, the worst defense in the league,
a team that allows usually over thirty points per game,
about ten degrees in Cincinnati today. Wide receiver T Higgins
was out with a concussion, so Jamar Chase was targeted
sixteen times. He had ten catches one hundred and thirty

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two yards in the loss. I mentioned the comeback win
for Buffalo at New England thirty five one. It was
a twenty four to seven deficit at the half, but
at one point it was a twenty one nothing Yeah,
twenty one zep Pats lead all time. What's the Patriots
record when they're up twenty one or more of a game? Actually,

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they had won seventy two games in a row, wow,
until going back to a Bills comeback in twenty eleven,
until the Bills had to come back today. In fact,
in the franchise history, New England's record all time went
up by twenty one during a game had been two
oh three and four until the comeback today. Josh Allen

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three touchdown passes, red zone td the Buffalo offense five
of six, James Cook three total touchdowns, one hundred and
seven yards rushing, and here the Bills had no first
downs in the first quarter. Today it was seven plays
fourteen yards. But Buffalo has the best rushing offense in
the league. Baut one hundred and sixty yards a game
on the ground, they wound up with one sixty eight.

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They averaged close to thirty points a game. They needed
all all of that in a thirty five thirty one win.
They end New England's ten game winning streak. And today
the Patriots could have clinched the AFC East with a victory.
They had been undefeated in the division. They had a
two game lead on the Bills.

Speaker 4 (01:17:13):
Would to help my standings because they would have not
played anybody the last game in the year against Miami.

Speaker 9 (01:17:18):
He's already looking ahead to that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 5 (01:17:20):
Temperature at Foxborough was about thirty degree snow at the start,
but Buffalo won in the snow last week. Bills do
have the number two pass defense in the league and
they only allowed one hundred and thirty nine yards in
the air today, but the run defense for Buffalo is
bottom five in the league. New England had almost two
hundred and fifty yards rushing just Traveon Henderson had almost

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one fifty on the ground in only fourteen carries and
a couple of touchdowns. Wow Drake May had two touchdown
runs in the first quarter and still Buffalo comes back
for the victory Jacksonville forty eight to twenty over the Jets.
Jags are up to ten and four as the Chargers are.
For example, Jacksonis won five in a row and they.

Speaker 9 (01:18:01):
Beat the Chargers head to head.

Speaker 5 (01:18:03):
Trevor Lawrence five touchdown passes and a touchdown run three
hundred and thirty yards through the air. In fact, he
had a game that no quarterback has ever had in
NFL history today at least three hundred yards passing in
five tds and at least fifty yards rushing and a
touchdown on the ground. That's what he did. The Charger
wins sixteen to thirteen in a comeback at Kansas City.

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Justin Herbert has now passed Patrick Mahomes on a list
for most passing yards in yours first six years in
the league. It's over twenty four thousand yards in counting
and here with three games to go. If Herbert gets
another six hundred yards passing, he'll set the record breaking
Peyton Mannings mark of most passing yards in your first
six seasons. Chargers were down thirteen to three late first half.

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They have now won six of their last seven. They
are five and zero in the division. Who was under
twenty degrees in Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes tour
at ACL late in the game and k is officially
eliminated from the playoff race After a great decade in
the postseason, Cameron Dicker, the kicker, three for three on
field goals, couple of forty nine yarders, Chiefs three running backs, nineteen.

Speaker 9 (01:19:12):
Carries thirty four yards.

Speaker 5 (01:19:14):
Wow, Kansas City had nine penalties, two turnovers, and the
team that used to win every close game is winning
almost none of the close games in one possession contest
this year, Kansas City is one and seven. Last year
in the close games, Casey was eleven and zero.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
Yeah, this year can't.

Speaker 9 (01:19:31):
Get any more different.

Speaker 5 (01:19:33):
And yeah, the Raiders lost their eighth in a row
thirty one nothing Philly the finals. So the Raiders offense
has been held under one hundred yards twice in the
same season.

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
They need Philip Rivers.

Speaker 5 (01:19:45):
That has only happened to two other teams since nineteen eighty.

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
So, my goodness.

Speaker 5 (01:19:50):
When you have forty two plays and that's a small
number on offense, but still forty two plays and only
seventy five yards net, that's an ouch. Seven first downs
the whole day, Philadelphia had twenty seven first owns.

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
That's it was so bad. My phone died on my flight.
I've never been happier, So I didn't watch it. I
was so happy when that thing went in. Power back up,
all right, thanks Steve. When we come back. What we
learned after a week fifteen. Already is that right of
the National Football League? Oh my goodness, where is this

(01:20:25):
season gone? Plus we'll get you ready for Monday Night
football with Arnie and Plank of Fox Sports Radios. You're
listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio Power Hour Arnie and
Plank here on Fox Sports Radio Week fifteen.

Speaker 3 (01:20:41):
I've never wanted an NFL season to be over more.

Speaker 1 (01:20:43):
Than me too. Me too. It's like just when your
team stinks, it's just an I mean, let's say your
Dolphins make a run.

Speaker 3 (01:20:52):
You get to say you're right and they made the playoffs.
I'm not going anywhere.

Speaker 4 (01:20:54):
Do you know what's crazy about this thing? Everything you
gave me crap about I turned out.

Speaker 1 (01:20:57):
To be right.

Speaker 4 (01:20:58):
I said what the dopins were one in siuse? They
were still going to make a run. Didn't I tell
you Jacksonville was going to win the division? And you
were no row beating the hell out of me.

Speaker 1 (01:21:06):
You never said Jacksonville.

Speaker 4 (01:21:08):
As a matter of fact, I noticed that we've been
getting tweets about people agreeing with me, and you've not
been reading them.

Speaker 1 (01:21:13):
I think, okay, well read the one that agrees with you.

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
I have to find it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:19):
There's one and then there's three that are like, yeah,
you never said that, that's not true.

Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
You have, I said, I remember already saying the Dophins
would last longer in the playoff race.

Speaker 4 (01:21:29):
Then the Chiefs don't let Plank gas like you. He's
just stressed out about his raiders.

Speaker 1 (01:21:34):
All right. Then I've got Donald who writes Chris. I
listened almost every Sunday night in Oklahoma City. I've never
heard Arnie say the Dolphins would last longer than the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
I could prove it. You want to know why when
the Dolphins were one and six, I said they were
going to make.

Speaker 1 (01:21:49):
The playoffs months ago.

Speaker 4 (01:21:52):
That let me finish allso months ago I said Kansas
City would be eliminated. They're not making the playoffs. So
if the city is not going to make the playoffs
and the Dolphins are, doesn't that mean the Dolphins are
gonna last longer than the Chiefs for the playoffs?

Speaker 2 (01:22:08):
Naturally make sense.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
You would have said it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
I'm sure I did. I'm sure I did.

Speaker 1 (01:22:16):
You also said that the Ravens were done when they're
right in the playoff And did.

Speaker 4 (01:22:20):
You brow beat me when I said Jacksonville And oh,
you're jumping on Jacksonville bandwagon?

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
Are you?

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
Nie? You said that six of the eight divisions were
decided already, and I don't think any of the six
teams you said that we're going to win the division
or winning the division right now? How do you pick
the They never picked Jacksonville.

Speaker 2 (01:22:42):
Heever picked just stopping you were on Houston.

Speaker 3 (01:22:45):
You were talking about Houston. You've never picked Jacksonville.

Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
Giving me grief like after the Raiders game, after the
Raiders should have beat them. Yeah, I was giving you
grief that made no sense to me whatsoever. But don't
pretend like you're on They're bandwagon.

Speaker 4 (01:23:00):
From day one, I picked up Trevor Lawrence and I
still lost fantasy football today.

Speaker 1 (01:23:07):
How could you lose fantasy football? The guy that through
four touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
Seventy points and I still lost?

Speaker 1 (01:23:12):
My gosh, I know. And next, are you gonna tell
me that you should be patting yourself on the back
because you said the Jets were gonna be bad? Is
that one that you want to would you like that?
Would would you like to pat yourself on the back
because you from day one never doubted Caleb Caleb Williams
at all? Right? Is that another one?

Speaker 2 (01:23:29):
Okay? You got me on that one, all right, you
got me on that one.

Speaker 4 (01:23:32):
Don't don't. Let's not go ahead and put him in
the Hall of Fame. Just jet relax yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:23:37):
I mean, they're sitting right now top the division at
ten and four.

Speaker 3 (01:23:43):
It's pretty damn good.

Speaker 4 (01:23:44):
No, they've had a good year, no doubt. I mean
worse the first and we get that every single year.
I remember we said, well, I don't see the Bears
going worse the first actue gotta go to a different
division than that.

Speaker 3 (01:23:57):
They're a game out of the top seed in the NFC.

Speaker 2 (01:24:00):
Yeah, they had the number one seed two weeks ago.

Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
And the Packers well, and again I Jacksonville had the
number one seed at one point, like two games into
the season. I mean, I'm not going to try to
get too drunk yet. I know we still have three
games to go. But when you're in that mix for
the top seed and you're down in the final two
or three games, you gotta feel pretty good about the
direction of your franchise and the trajectory you're on right now.

Speaker 4 (01:24:25):
By the way, though, look at the NFC West, three
teams already with double digit victories. Is that insane or
what Ramseyahawks forty nine ers.

Speaker 1 (01:24:33):
That's crazy, toughest division in football. Oh yeah, I think
AFC West, if the Raiders didn't suck, would be right there.

Speaker 3 (01:24:40):
But they're terrible. I guess Kansas City kind of stinks
this year too.

Speaker 1 (01:24:43):
Yeah, but okay, let's get into what we learned after
Week fifteen here, because I want to start with the bad,
all right. I just want to talk about some bad
franchises real quick. I'm not so certain that Arizona. We
already know that New York's made it change, right, Atlanta
got a nice win, but I don't think Atlanta's very good.

(01:25:06):
Tennessee's already made a change. Cleveland's three and eleven, now,
I mean, is at some point they're gonna say, hey,
Kevin Seafford had that one great season and maybe he's
just not that guy. Uh and and the Raiders. I mean,
I'm looking at six to seven franchises right now, Arnie,
they're gonna have to make coaching changes this offseason. And
I thought that this might be a fairly quiet off season.

(01:25:28):
But I mean, if you're Arizona, you decided to bench
Kyler Murray because you thought you were in better shape
with Jacoby Brissette. That hasn't work. Giants have already made
a move, and I get I love Jackson Dart. I
wonder if it's sustainable. I wonder what the way he plays,
if he's not gonna get hurt again and maybe be
out even longer. We saw how the injuries ended up
affected concussions with other players quarterbacks in the past. Arnie

(01:25:50):
Tennessee's making change. Raiders have to have to make a change.
I mean, the Jets have rallied somewhat, but are they
going to decide that it's not gonna work with Aaron Glenn?
Like I don't feel like so, do you think they're
going to give it more time? I think they will
give it more time. What about Cleveland, I said Kevin Siefert.
I'm sorry Kevin Stefanski.

Speaker 4 (01:26:07):
Yes, Stefanski is a coin foot on that. I go
back back and forth every day. I'm not sure what
they're gonna do with him.

Speaker 3 (01:26:15):
They and I also don't know, like that's this is now.

Speaker 1 (01:26:19):
They've lost six to seven, They've given up thirty in
in their last two thirty or more. And I don't
know if Shador Sanders is good. I can't I can't
figure it out. I mean, there's a couple of throws
that he makes and I'm like, yeah, this is why
I like this guy coming out of college. But I'm
not able to sit in because it's just such bad football.

(01:26:39):
I'm not able to sit and just break it down
and say, oh, yeah, he's gonna be fine.

Speaker 3 (01:26:43):
Have you been able to get a feel on that.

Speaker 4 (01:26:45):
No, I mean those people still who are praising him
like crazy, thinking he's going to be the next wonder
and lead him back to the promised Lamb.

Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
I've got my doubts.

Speaker 4 (01:26:55):
I'm not thinking he's as bad as other people have him,
but he's average it past. I don't think he's gonna
have a big career, if that's what you're asking.

Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
So basically, what I've learned after week fifteen, if you
don't mind me taking the lead on this before I
give you the Mesh handoff, is I think we're gonna
see a very active coaching carousel. I think that there
and there's always a surprise, right there's a team that
we weren't necessarily expecting that ends up making a move.
You know, if Pittsburgh falters down the stretch, could that

(01:27:24):
finally be time, I guess i'd really Oh, maybe Cincinnati
decided to move on from Zach Taylor. That that might
be a kind of a surprise, right, that's got to
him do the Super Bowl a couple of years ago.
But I mean if Buffalo falters, right, I know our
buddy Paul was always ready to fire Sean McDermott. But
I think we're gonna see a very active coaching carousel

(01:27:48):
this offseason. I think there's gonna be a couple one
and Doun's out there too.

Speaker 4 (01:27:51):
All right, then we get to mind what I've learned
after Week fifteen, And I told you this before.

Speaker 1 (01:27:56):
How come every single take that you have? I know
I'm to tell us you told us I'm always on it.

Speaker 4 (01:28:03):
Not divisional races, but wildcard races are not all that
good this year, to be honest with you. In the AFC,
we've used it at number seven. It doesn't look like
the Coats will get in. We hope Dolphins will get them,
but it doesn't look that way.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
Not much of a race for the wild card in
the AFC. In the NFC, maybe.

Speaker 4 (01:28:22):
You know, with the Packers and seven and the Lions,
but still the Lions are two games behind in the
loss column.

Speaker 2 (01:28:28):
So I would say that there's not gonna be much change.
There's not really any good races going on for the
wild card in the AFC.

Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
In the NFC, they kind of pulled away. You had
some good separation. Now I would push back a bit
and say the teams that are competing for it, I
mean they that's good fighting.

Speaker 3 (01:28:45):
Between those teams for positioning and where they're gonna be.

Speaker 1 (01:28:47):
But since you've already gone ahead and thrown the Dolphins
out of it, yeah, you're right, you're not gonna have
good battles for that seventh or the eighth and final playoffs.
I'm sorry, seventh and final playoff spot. But you are
you are gonna have some good position battle for positioning.
I mean, the Chargers are there at the five right now,
they're ten and four. The Bills are in the sixth spot.

(01:29:08):
Right that's crazy, y sixth. Can you imagine you feel
really good because you're Jacksonville and you've won your division.
You're like, yeah, we want our division. We're going to
the playoff. We're gonna host a home game. Oh great,
here comes Josh Allen, the Buffalo Bills that are coming
down to play us.

Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
Well, look at the NFC.

Speaker 4 (01:29:23):
Philadelphia would have to play like San Francisco in the
first row.

Speaker 2 (01:29:27):
What a great matchup that would be.

Speaker 1 (01:29:30):
After Week fifteen, I know this, as you like to say,
it is over, ov Er And this pays me a
little bit because this is a team that I was
on in the preseason and they traded Micah.

Speaker 3 (01:29:42):
They showed a little hope. But I think it's over
for the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (01:29:45):
Yeah, and and I hate to give up on them
like this of staying on that bandwagon for quite a while. Now,
even through the implosions, they are now six seven and one.
They're not gonna catch Philly for the division. They're not
gonna make it is a wild card. And when I
talk about the coaching carousel, I know you don't care
about assistance and coordinators. I do. It's one of my

(01:30:06):
favorite things. And I think it's going to be very
active coordinator carousel. And I think Dallas is going to
be looking for a new defensive coordinator again after the
comments that Jerry made after the game today. So I
have finally had a punt on any belief that the
Cowboys would do anything after them getting beat on the
Sunday Night Football tonight by the Vikings.

Speaker 4 (01:30:23):
All right, let me get to that, and again, once again,
I have to go ahead and tell you this is
something I've told you weeks ago, a long time ago,
but it is O v eer Finally for.

Speaker 2 (01:30:36):
The Kansas City Chiefs.

Speaker 4 (01:30:38):
There'll be no playoffs for them after how many years
in a row going to the AFC Championship.

Speaker 2 (01:30:43):
Game with Mahomes. They won't make the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (01:30:47):
Mahomes is gone tragic injury, probably won't be back till October,
you know, five six, seven games into next year. People
already on Twitter go jeeves won't make the playoffs. Agad
next year. They may be right about that. The dynasty
is over. Everything we've known about the powerhouse Kansas City

(01:31:09):
Chiefs is now O v e R Donezoh, they're no
longer the powerhouse. Just like the Patriots had to rebuild
when Tom left. That's what the Chiefs are going to
have to do with.

Speaker 1 (01:31:23):
Right, So this has gone as far as basically saying
that you think they're finished, Oh, yeah, they're done. So
the run is over? The run?

Speaker 2 (01:31:33):
Oh what part of O v e R did you
not understand?

Speaker 3 (01:31:37):
Well, you throw a lot of stuff against the wall
to see if it sticks.

Speaker 1 (01:31:40):
I mean, you bearing a team that is now missing
the playoffs for the first year with this dude as
their starting quarterback and their season is ending.

Speaker 2 (01:31:47):
I mean when I'm earlier in the year, yes, yes.

Speaker 1 (01:31:50):
Prior to the APS. What what is your infatuation with
wanting to tell everyone how right you are and then
your picks are terrible? I know purtures have been good
this week though, oh this week last week combined, it's
not good, Arnie. I mean, Patrick Mahomes is gone as
the starting quarterback. He's gone to the AFC Championship Game,
the Super Bowl and won it, the Super Bowl and

(01:32:13):
lost it, the AFC Championship Game, the Super Bowl and
won it the Super Bowl and won it the Super
Bowl and lost it. And now they're having a rough season,
and you're like, well, the run's done, They're finished.

Speaker 3 (01:32:23):
It's ov er over.

Speaker 4 (01:32:25):
The run's done. It's done this year, and it's done
next year. Considering he's hurt and who know, like you said,
you're the one that didn't even think he was gonna
go to like thirty eight or something. Well, in ten
years will be thirty two. There you go, It is over, my.

Speaker 1 (01:32:39):
Friend, no more.

Speaker 4 (01:32:40):
Run for the Kansas City Lynn Dawson's not walking through
those doors to help out.

Speaker 2 (01:32:45):
I mean, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:32:46):
Patrick Mahomes has had a better career than Lyn Dawson
had the championship. Why he's already and.

Speaker 4 (01:32:52):
Google acts not walking through that door or whatever his
name is. I don't think that was his name, but
running down the running back Google Google Yeah, closer as
the saga the SEGA would know.

Speaker 1 (01:33:04):
I think after week fifteen, the Joe Burrow situation is
worth monitoring, but I don't think it's on like threat
level orange or yellow yet. If I'm a Bengal fan,
I'm concerned about the direction of the franchise right now
because they haven't done a good job protecting him. And automatically,
a quarterback battles a few injuries and his team struggles

(01:33:27):
building an offensive line around him, and it automatically becomes what, oh,
they're andrew luck at him. They're not taking care of
him like he should. Now. I don't want to go
that far. I mean, Joe fought hard to get back
with the injury this year. He didn't play all that
well today. I know Rams fans are already trying to say, oh, yeah, well,
he'll force a trade to Los Angeles like Matt Stafford
did when Stafford retires. Don't know if Cincinnati's going to

(01:33:50):
be in the business of facilitating that, nor do they
have to be, but I think it's worth monitoring Arnie.
I'm not in panic level. Hey, he's wanting to get
out of there, He's not. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:34:01):
I don't, I don't. I'm not around Joe Burrow enough.

Speaker 1 (01:34:03):
I don't buy that he's asked for a trade or
that he's going to ask for a trade quite yet.
I think he's gonnaive him a year, but I'm I
think it's worth monitoring. I also, what do you think
of the Jeremy Fowler report this week about the Eagles,
which was, again, I'm not here to tell anyone how
to do their job. But whenever the headline says Jalen
Hurts could be replaced, and then it's they might draft

(01:34:25):
a quarterback and groom him to take over from Jalen Hurts,
I'm like, that's not really replacing him, but right, that's
what we brought up earlier.

Speaker 4 (01:34:31):
I'm like, I can't believe they'd want to replace a
quarterback like Jalen hurts, especially with what we've seen so
far with replacements going on.

Speaker 1 (01:34:40):
You know, yeah, I don't know, but that's me. I
just I really don't know what to think of those
two situations. But I think it's more likely that you
could see movement in Cincinnati than you could in Philadelphia,
because I mean, letsten, beating the Raiders doesn't matter, all right,
It's just it's irrelevant.

Speaker 3 (01:34:56):
It's it's like basically getting the free space of the
being go board.

Speaker 1 (01:34:59):
So I'm not gonna get two carried away if I'm
an Eagle fan beating my chest and say, yeah, where
are you now?

Speaker 3 (01:35:04):
But Philly has shown they don't mess around, aren't he.

Speaker 1 (01:35:06):
I mean, if you have a little bit of an
off season, they're ready to move on pretty quickly.

Speaker 2 (01:35:11):
Oh for sure. One hundred after Week fifteen. I know this.

Speaker 4 (01:35:14):
Remember when I said that the Colts were the worst
team in the NFL going into the season. Remember when
I said that, Chris.

Speaker 1 (01:35:21):
Yeah, you were wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:35:23):
I was wrong, absolutely wrong. And then you said, no, no, no, no,
it's the Saints.

Speaker 4 (01:35:26):
Yeah, we were both wrong. It's your Raiders. Your Raiders
are the worst team. They're the worst team, and it's
embarrassing and I don't even know how to fix it.
And I can't believe tom Brady has his name associated
with a team like this.

Speaker 1 (01:35:42):
He's the one that's made the decisions that have got
us here.

Speaker 4 (01:35:46):
No, you've been bad before tom Brady even got there.

Speaker 1 (01:35:49):
You know that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:50):
Come on, Chris Gy.

Speaker 1 (01:35:51):
Maybe have been and twelve bad dude.

Speaker 3 (01:35:56):
Tom Brady is a mush as an administrator.

Speaker 1 (01:35:59):
Wow, the stakes unless because all we hear is all
he's gonna have more influence. He's gotta have more impact.
That's his handpick general manager right there. The ninety million
dollars in gap space heading into this season. He okay,
the move to get Pete Carroll, that was his guy,
Chip Kelly. Tom Brady might suck at being a front
office guy, and it's okay because not everyone's good at it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:21):
You like Pete Carrol though, of.

Speaker 1 (01:36:23):
Course, whenever you hire a guy that comes in with
super good bull pedigree. I didn't realize that this was
going to be his like retirement nest Egg, that he
needed making a little bit of money and move on.

Speaker 4 (01:36:33):
I love my great grandfather too, but I don't want
him coach of the team for Grid out loud, did your.

Speaker 3 (01:36:38):
Great grandfather make it a seventy. I'm proud of him.
If he did.

Speaker 1 (01:36:42):
I mean, we're going back aways now. You make it
a thirty five. In those days, aren't he You were
living in a special life. I'm just I don't have anything
to say. You're right, happy, happy for you for being
right on the Raiders being No, I.

Speaker 2 (01:36:56):
Don't even know what you do next. I mean, I
don't even know.

Speaker 3 (01:36:58):
You drafted quarterback. Don't win another game this year? You
don't win another game this year.

Speaker 4 (01:37:03):
Somebody said to us a tweet that you should take
the Vanderbilt quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:37:08):
I believe it.

Speaker 1 (01:37:08):
Well, he's not going to be drafted until day three
of the draft, so if you get him, that's great.
But when you are in a position to get one
of the elite quarterbacks in the draft, you go freaking
get him. And so I don't win another game. I'm
gonna have to live with it, and it's fine. But
when you're sitting there at number one, you take for
Dana Mendoza or Dante More or Ty Simpson or whomever

(01:37:29):
you have evaluated to be that guy. Now, if you
want to talk to me about potentially thinking about calling
Cincinnati and saying Hey, listen, we got the number one
pick in the draft, and we'll trade it to you
as well as what two or three other future first
round picks for Joe Burrow.

Speaker 3 (01:37:46):
Then I'm here. But I don't think Cincinnati is going
to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:37:49):
No offense.

Speaker 4 (01:37:50):
I kind of want you to go oh in seventeen
next year, so you could have the.

Speaker 2 (01:37:54):
Number one pick and take arch manning that well.

Speaker 1 (01:37:57):
They're going to take a quarterback this year. I don't
think arch I think, regardless of how much you try
to make it happen, I don't think arch Man is
going to be the top pick in the draft next year.

Speaker 2 (01:38:08):
With the Raiders.

Speaker 1 (01:38:10):
I would be that. Hey, listen, I don't care where
you went to school. You win games for my team.
I'm happy about it. Go get it done, all right?
Anything else you want to add?

Speaker 2 (01:38:18):
No, that that was pretty much it. That was it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:20):
I just all right. I got a lot of audio
to hit, got a couple of highlights. We had a
couple of walk off plays in the NFL. Today, we'll
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Speaker 1 (01:39:11):
How was your week, Jeff? Good week. We haven't really
talked about it. Didn't you go to a game or no?
Was that two weeks ago? No?

Speaker 2 (01:39:17):
No, I didn't know, no place this week. Just filled
it on Saturday, I got Today's show and then don't
know what the holiday schedule is gonna bring yet.

Speaker 1 (01:39:26):
Haven't heard it, trophy husband, Yeah, I haven't heard it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:29):
For doing Christmas in New Year's and all that stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:39:32):
Probably are, but I haven't heard much about the holidays yet.

Speaker 1 (01:39:37):
Baltimore is an awesome city, by the way, had a
good time yeah, it was. It was a really good,
great game, great finish, and truly, if you ever have
any questions about your patriotism or you need a little
infusion of it, go to the Army Navy game. We

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got a lot of toys. Man, those helicopters, those jets
in the flyover pretty awesome. And they do this I
think one of my favorite well, getting to see my
son march in is the best. But they have a
they call it a hostage exchange, but it's it's kind

(01:40:20):
of a crude way to describe it, but that's what
it is.

Speaker 3 (01:40:22):
Because there is a very prestigious honor.

Speaker 1 (01:40:25):
That you get as either a cadet at the US
Military Academy or if you go to Annapolis and Europe.

Speaker 3 (01:40:32):
I don't know what the term is for a Navy student.

Speaker 1 (01:40:35):
And so one will one Navy student will study at
Army for a year or a semester, and the other
Army student will study at Navy for this time. And
so right before the game, as that semester has come
to an end, Arnie at the coin toss, they'll have
the Army guy and the Navy guy or gal guy

(01:40:57):
or gal for both sides, and they'll go back to
the other and then whenever it becomes official, they go
running back to the student section and it's great.

Speaker 3 (01:41:06):
And then the other the other.

Speaker 1 (01:41:07):
Fun thing was, you know they do the big march
on right, which is two hours before the game, so
you get all emotional you watch the march on and
then you're like, I gotta sit here and wait like
an hour before kickoff, so your margin, which is awesome.
Then you're just like sitting around waiting for the game
to kick off. But as the Army guys were walking in,
the West Point cadets were walking in. It was in
a tunnel right by where the Navy students were sitting,

(01:41:29):
all the Navy midshipment and oh they were wearing them out.
It was like, oh, it was hilarious. I took videos
off to sit it to you.

Speaker 4 (01:41:36):
But if I didn't, if I didn't go to Arizona,
I probably would have gone the Army or yeah, like
would have to pick a school with That's right.

Speaker 1 (01:41:44):
Okay, it would have been tough. USA is amazing, man.
The great job that you supporting it.

Speaker 6 (01:41:48):
All.

Speaker 1 (01:41:48):
Right, let's hit some of your tweets and X submission
to the show. You can find us on Twitter, Arnie
is at Stinking Genius one. I'm at playing show. Everybody
should go follow us at Fox Sports. All Right, paul
I mentioned he's in. He writes, I'm waiting for Roger
Goodell to convene an emergency owners meeting to change the
rules to get the Chiefs into the postseason.

Speaker 2 (01:42:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:42:12):
He also adds Sean McDermott and Brandon Bean of the
Bills are the worst head coach GM pairings at all
of sports, but Josh Allen continues to bail them out.

Speaker 3 (01:42:24):
You feel like the Bills aren't built to win.

Speaker 1 (01:42:27):
I mean, Paul, I wish I could be in that
position where my team is sitting with nine wins on
the season.

Speaker 3 (01:42:33):
I'm complaining about him. I want to get back to
that spot.

Speaker 4 (01:42:36):
And now that Kansas City's not going to make a run,
they they'll have no excuses. I mean, obviously there's teams
that are better than them.

Speaker 2 (01:42:43):
But they'll have no excuses. They'll have a wide open
chance to try to win it this year.

Speaker 3 (01:42:47):
Who I said nine wins, the Bills have ten.

Speaker 1 (01:42:51):
If if I gave you a stack of money, I
gave you one Hunter grand and I'm like put it
on the team. Where you can guarantee me that they're
going to go to the Super Bowl right now? Who
would you put it on? From the AFC?

Speaker 2 (01:43:03):
Buffalo?

Speaker 1 (01:43:04):
He'd still put on Buffalo.

Speaker 2 (01:43:05):
I said this last night. I would put it on Buffalo.

Speaker 4 (01:43:08):
I said I wouldn't put it on Denver because I
don't know if I ended. They've played phenomenal, but I
don't know if I could trust bo Nicks, you know,
in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:43:16):
Same thing with Drake may the guy's ever been in
the playoffs. Jaguars. I mean, look Trevor Lawrence, but how
far is he going to take?

Speaker 1 (01:43:22):
You? You're gonna be for me?

Speaker 4 (01:43:24):
Yeah, I'm not gonna take Pittsburgh. Chargers have injuries, but
I would maybe consider them and that loft Buffalo. So
I would take Buffalo right now over any other team.
Matter of fact, I would take five, six and seven Chargers,
Buffalo and the Texans over one, two and three four
to be honest with you.

Speaker 1 (01:43:41):
All right, So Josh asks a great question before we
let the Sager get in here to break up the
X submissions. He says, I know they didn't win, but
did the Colts actually save their season by having a
good showing in Seattle. Last three games are Niners, Jags,
and Houston. Also great win by your Wildcats, aren't he?

Speaker 2 (01:43:59):
Thank you? Well, they're not going to beat the Niners
and they're not going to beat the Jaguars. They're not
going to beat Houston. So no, they didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:44:05):
So I guess, Josh, the man that told you you
were gonna be the worst team in the NFL this
season is now telling you're not gonna win any of
your final three games, So it doesn't matter. I will say,
it's still kind of wild to think that they were
seven and one and they had complete control and then
your quarterback gets dinged up, you know, play so well,
and the next thing you know, you're sitting there at
eight and six fighting for your postseason life. Welcome to

(01:44:27):
the NFL.

Speaker 2 (01:44:28):
Yeah, seeking about quickly what's going on?

Speaker 1 (01:44:30):
Steve the Sega one final look at what's trending in
the world of sports where everything is now a final.

Speaker 5 (01:44:35):
You bet you it is, including the late game in
the NBA Portland Edge Golden State one thirty six, one
thirty one despite forty eight points from Steph Curry. The
Warriors record now thirteen and fourteen, Lakers up to eighteen
and seven after winning a close one at Phoenix one
sixteen one fourteen with three late free throws. Luka Doncic
twenty nine points from three point range. He was two

(01:44:57):
of fourteen in the victory. New Orleans had a record
of four and twenty two this year, but they got
to win at Chicago. Washington was three and twenty. You
gotta win at Indiana. Charlotte got an overtime win at Cleveland.
Conkin Nepple continues the great first year, twenty nine points.
Brooklyn and Atlanta each one at home. Minnesota as well
beat Sacramento even though Anthony Edwards was out with a

(01:45:19):
sore foot. Sacramento star Zach Lavine left the game with
an ankle injury. College hoops Iowa State and USC with wins.
Women's basketball, Texas and Louisville each one. Women's volleyball National
Tournament has Texas, A and M going to the final
four after an upset of number one Nebraska, which had been.

Speaker 2 (01:45:39):
I thought Texas was number one in women's volleyball.

Speaker 5 (01:45:42):
Nebraska had not lost Pitt's Good Pitts.

Speaker 2 (01:45:45):
Hill, Texas, Texas was number one.

Speaker 5 (01:45:48):
Well, how could a team thirty three and oh that's
won all of their titles, not be We'll move on
NHL Carolina with.

Speaker 4 (01:45:55):
Which I saw today that they said Texas was right
number one.

Speaker 1 (01:45:59):
They were the one set in their regional.

Speaker 2 (01:46:01):
Okay, with in the region. Okay, there you go.

Speaker 5 (01:46:03):
It's like March Madness. You know, there's four different one
seeds and.

Speaker 1 (01:46:07):
We're getting it now.

Speaker 2 (01:46:08):
I'm getting it now.

Speaker 5 (01:46:09):
Arizona Diamondbacks re signed pitcher Merrill Kelly. College football playoff
starts this Friday with Alabama at Oklahoma and then three
games this Saturday, including number ten Miami at Texas A
and M. But the two playoff games that were farmed
out to TNT this Saturday are Too Lane at Ole
Miss and James Madison at Oregon, and they are opposite
the two NFL games on Fox TV Philadelphia and clinch

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its division with the Saturday win at Washington, and then
it's Green Bay at Chicago Saturday nights on Fox TV.
The Green Bay Packers were beaten at Denver today. The
Denver Broncos are not only seven to zero at home,
they've won eleven in a row. Overall, bow Nick's four
touchdown passes over three hundred yards through the air, thirty
four to twenty six to the final, and the Broncos

(01:46:55):
had trailed in the third quarter by nine points. Green
Bay not only had ten penalties, but pass rusher Micah
Parsons left with a non contact knee injury a possible
torn ACL. Josh Jacobs on twelve carries, did have seventy
three yards, including a forty yard touchdown, but wide receiver
Christian Watson left with a chest injury. Packers went four
for four on field goals, but Denver on red zone

(01:47:18):
touchdowns were four for four. The Broncos clinch a playoff spot.
Next Sunday, Denver, now number one in the AFC, will
host Jacksonville, number three in the AFC. Jaguars have won
five straight. They're up to ten and four. Trevor Lawrence
five touchdown passes one TV run in the win over
the Jets forty eight to twenty. Jaguars had touchdowns on

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their first three drives. They were up thirty one ten
at the half. Brady Cook was today's Jets quarterback. One
TV three interceptions to Rod Taylor and Justin Fields were
out with injuries. Jets were already the worst passing team
in the league, under one hundred and fifty yards a
game through the air. They had one fifty four through
the air in this one. They did have a takeaway, though,

(01:48:00):
so the Jets are up to three whole takeaways this
entire's They're minus seventeen in turnover margin. They don't have
a single interception, but they have three total takeaways.

Speaker 1 (01:48:11):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:48:12):
The Rams clinched a playoff berth winning at home against
Detroit forty one thirty four. Rams had thirty first downs
over five hundred yards of offense. This Thursday night, it's
the Rams eleven and three at Seattle eleven and three.
Will wide receiver DeVante Adams be playing?

Speaker 2 (01:48:29):
Oh no, he won't be.

Speaker 5 (01:48:30):
Guy, it didn't look like it left with a hamstring injury,
a hamstring that was already hurt coming into today. Matthew
Stafford three hundred and sixty eight yards passing, two touchdowns,
one interception. Pooka Nakua great again. The guy's over one
hundred receptions already this year. Today, he had nine catches
for one hundred and eighty one yards. He's already in

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his NFL career had seventeen different games with at least
one hundred receiving yards. On the other side, southern California
native for the Lions, receiver aman Ross Saint Brown was
targeted eighteen times and had thirteen catches for one sixty
four and two scores. He's over ninety catches this season,
which means Saint Brown is the first player in NFL

(01:49:12):
history to in each of your first five seasons in
the league have at least ninety receptions.

Speaker 1 (01:49:18):
She's so good.

Speaker 5 (01:49:19):
Kyron Williams rams seventy eight yards rushing, two scores. Blake
Krum seventy one yards rushing in a score here. Detroit
is thirty points a game best in the league, and
they scored thirty four and still lost again. They have
a losing road record. They're just eight and six overall,
and if the season ended right now, the Detroit Lions
would be missing the playoffs. Wow, green Bay would get

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the last spot. The Lions are just behind them. Minnesota
one tonight at Dallas thirty four or twenty six. JJ
McCarthy three total touchdowns after throwing an interception on his
first pass, Seattle edge the Colts eighteen sixteen on a
late fifty six yard field goal. Jason Meyers six for
six on field goals. Orleans came back to beat Carolina
twenty to seventeen on a forty seven yard field goal

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in the final seconds. San Francisco and Chicago with wins.
Washington ended an eight game losing streak. Baltimore and Philadelphia
with victories. I mentioned Jacksonville won its fifth in a row.
Houston won at sixth straight. Buffalo with the comeback win
at New England thirty five thirty one. Pat's had won
ten straight, and the Chargers were down ten at Kansas

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City late first half. Still beat the chief sixteen thirteen.
Kansas City at six and eight, eliminated from the playoff race,
and Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes tore in ACL late in
the game.

Speaker 1 (01:50:35):
Back to you, thanks, Steve, have a great weekend. Should
be fun. A couple of other quick tweet slash x
submissions Joe Judges, Bernard Yeah, pretty good contributor to the show.
Philip Rivers threw it for one hundred and twenty yards
on eighteen attempts. That's six yards of pass. What in

(01:50:56):
the absolute hell is going on in Indy with coaches
and their inability to coach up and develop their quarterbacks.
Riley Leonard couldn't handle the ball and threw for six
yards of pass. That was laughable garbage by Indy today.
To look at it that way, right, what.

Speaker 2 (01:51:14):
Did you think of Philip's performance? Philip Rivers' performance today?

Speaker 1 (01:51:18):
Now, I give him grace because he hasn't played in
over a thousand days. I mean, but again, I'll go
back to what we said earlier in the show. I
don't think he should have come to that. I don't
think he should.

Speaker 2 (01:51:30):
Have had to be out there C plus maybe something
might be minus.

Speaker 1 (01:51:35):
I mean, you're a big stats guy. If I reeled
off that stat line for Jalen Hurts, how would you
think he played.

Speaker 4 (01:51:43):
I wouldn't give him his eyes of a grade, I'll
say that. But they were right there for the.

Speaker 2 (01:51:47):
Win though, So that's to account for something.

Speaker 1 (01:51:51):
They he did have them in position to win the game.
So there is that tennis data. Bo Nick's silencing the haters.
Oh he's really doing that right now, I mean not
tennis dad, And that bow Nicks was really good today.
He was really good today. Also, if Arnie mentions Nick

(01:52:11):
Saban coming out of retirement, you need to cut his feet.
Dude has the best gig. He's not coming back and
dealing with nil in the portal. But yeah, that was
a text, did you guy? Did you throw that out
there or something last night?

Speaker 2 (01:52:23):
No, not last night.

Speaker 4 (01:52:25):
But remember with all the rumors going on about who
is going to be the next head coach in Michigan,
I thought last night when we were talking about it,
that Jed Fish had become the front runner. But now
I'm just not even I don't know what the hell's
going on.

Speaker 1 (01:52:39):
To be honest with you, I think they're gonna go
get your dude in Arizona State, Dillingham. I think Kenny
Dillingham might be the guy.

Speaker 2 (01:52:46):
I think I thought he already. I had seen the report.

Speaker 4 (01:52:49):
Not only did he deny it, he had not spoken
to anybody, which means his rep could have talked to somebody, but.

Speaker 2 (01:52:55):
That they were giving him a new contract or something
like that.

Speaker 7 (01:52:57):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:52:58):
Well, he was very clear they're in the talks of
a new contract, just talk have been signed yet. So
there's a lot of wordsmithing going on on that front.
Nature boy, right, Let's be sure to remind Kansas City
fans that they did not have a parayed last year
and the party is over. Oh remember they didn't win

(01:53:21):
the Super Bowl last year.

Speaker 2 (01:53:22):
No, they didn't tell you that.

Speaker 1 (01:53:25):
You try to tell me that. By the way, this
was pretty good. Earlier in the show. This from Colin,
I say earlier in the show, about forty minutes ago,
after Week fifteen, we should all see this. Pete Carroll
is a fraud and a questionable Hall of Famer. He's
basically this generation to Georgia Seaffert, my condolences to Chris

(01:53:46):
and all the Raider fans. Wow. And then he added,
even though I'm in Canada, the Army Navy game was
one of the best football games this year. You can
see how much it means to everyone involved in every
single play.

Speaker 2 (01:53:56):
Yeah, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:53:57):
The first quarter was the fastest I've ever been a
part of in my life, and then the third and
fourth quarter might have been the longest certain fourth quarters
I've ever been a part of my entire life.

Speaker 4 (01:54:08):
I know I did drag off, but I love the
two players. Was it Navy that were friends when they
were like ten years old or something like that and
grew up together, played on the same team, and now.

Speaker 2 (01:54:19):
They're both playing for Navy. That was absolutely incredible.

Speaker 1 (01:54:22):
There's so many cool stories in that game. Just if
you get a chance if it comes near, you go
be a part of it. I think it's back in
Boston next year, and then it'll rotate to New York
and we'll see if they decide to move the data
and if they move in more towards the Midwest.

Speaker 4 (01:54:38):
You know, when you when you guys keep saying that
nobody wants to watch the two college playoff games? Was
there up against the NFL?

Speaker 3 (01:54:46):
Well, you you made it very clear that you don't
want to watch.

Speaker 4 (01:54:49):
Well, but I'm just wondering how low were they going
to be? Like, is it going to be less than
Army Navy? I think the SEGA said, yes, they Army
Navy got like five.

Speaker 2 (01:54:58):
Million, six million.

Speaker 3 (01:55:00):
It'll do better than that.

Speaker 1 (01:55:01):
Okay, it better. It's playoff game, I mean up against
the NFL though, so I understand that, but it's still
a playoff game. I mean, I just we're gonna see
a lot of change in college football this offseason. We're
gonna see a lot of change the playoffs in this schedule,
and it needs to happen. But I will say I
hope they continue to keep the absolute brilliance of this

(01:55:25):
game in some way, shape or form as a quote
unquote solo act. Now. I know you had the La Bowl,
I know you had Rob Gronkowski out there, but I
love the idea of this this game getting its own.

Speaker 4 (01:55:36):
So they're not going to move into like the first
game of the year or something like that, are they.

Speaker 1 (01:55:40):
I don't think so. I don't think so. That's been
Rick new Heizel's big thing is he thinks that they
should move all the bowl games in the first week
of the season, and instead of it being a year
building up to it, that you just start the season
the bowl games and it's a big treat. All right,
we got to break Arnie's picks. We'll take us so
next right here on Fox Sports Radio. A couple quick

(01:56:02):
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(01:56:24):
pop up at the top of your screen. Also, I
want to thank Bree for being in tonight. Actually fired
me on my Friday night show. I'm glad that she's
won tonight after a Saints win, but it sounds loss
Mary crushing it as always with all the Christmas tunes
Di Sega great updates and the millions and millions of
editors behind the scenes putting together all the great audio

(01:56:46):
from week fifteen. So stinking genius, take it away with
your picks. What do you have for us tonight?

Speaker 4 (01:56:51):
Let's get at it. I had a good day today,
believe it or not.

Speaker 2 (01:56:54):
In the NFL. I went seven and four.

Speaker 1 (01:56:59):
How about it?

Speaker 2 (01:57:00):
Too shabby?

Speaker 1 (01:57:00):
Not too shabby?

Speaker 4 (01:57:02):
Back on track, all right, just a couple of games
in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (01:57:06):
Of course.

Speaker 4 (01:57:06):
We got the game Monday night, my Dolphins on the
road taking on the Pittsburgh Steelers. I told you at
one in six they were gonna get this thing going.

Speaker 2 (01:57:15):
That's what's happening.

Speaker 4 (01:57:16):
I'm getting three points, you know, I'm taking the three points.
I don't want it, I don't need it. Dolphins will
win the game out straight out. By the way, did
you know the Dolphins have always scored five more points
than the Gets this year, even though they played one
last game. But that's very concerning. I just just saw that.
But uh, Dolphins win this game, go to seven and seven.

(01:57:39):
It's too bad they don't have a better chance of
making the playoffs because this has been one hell.

Speaker 1 (01:57:44):
Of a run.

Speaker 2 (01:57:44):
Chris, who would have seen this coming?

Speaker 1 (01:57:46):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:57:47):
Hell other than me? Who would have seen this coming?

Speaker 1 (01:57:50):
Man? Not you?

Speaker 3 (01:57:51):
Not you, that's for sure at all.

Speaker 1 (01:57:53):
Didn't see it.

Speaker 2 (01:57:54):
He wrote us off.

Speaker 3 (01:57:55):
We didn't right back, that's what you say for the Dolphins.

Speaker 2 (01:58:00):
Did try to write us off.

Speaker 1 (01:58:01):
You know that everyone did, Everyone did for you and
John Gruden, and they didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:58:07):
Right back, Seattle, I'm taking the one and a half
against the Rams. Rams banged up, no doubt about that.
So I don't think Adams is gonna play in the game.
They've got injuries. I gotta go and go with Seattle
on this one. Now, let's get to the college playoffs.
My Oklahoma Sooners, oh god, getting a point and a

(01:58:28):
half against Alabama, give me Yoklahoma baby won the first time. Chris,
I don't know if you know that just out. Did
you see the game the first time?

Speaker 3 (01:58:40):
May have caught some of it, Yeah, it might have
been a busy day for me.

Speaker 4 (01:58:44):
That probably was probably didn't get to see the whole game.
Love my Sooners plus the point and a half. I
would have taken A and M minus three and ALF
against Miami. Actually, I think that's the best bet of
the weekend. Love A and M minus three and ALF
against Miami. I would have take Oregon minus twenty one
and a half against James Madison. I'm actually do want

(01:59:05):
to see the game. I'm hoping James Madison can at
least keep it close. And I'm gonna take Mississippi minus
seventeen and a half against Tulane. Though part of me
wanted to take Tulane in the upset, but I really
I just.

Speaker 2 (01:59:17):
Couldn't do it.

Speaker 4 (01:59:18):
So there you have my picks, two of them, as
you please, no longer strictly for entertainment purposes only.

Speaker 1 (01:59:24):
So what made you want to take Tulane? I did
you know?

Speaker 2 (01:59:27):
Because I was taking you know, pretty much A and
M laying the points, Oregon laying the points. Oklahoma is
pretty much a pickup game.

Speaker 4 (01:59:33):
I'm like, somebody's gotta go ahead, one dog's gotta step up,
and I was hoping to be Tulayne, but I said, no.

Speaker 1 (01:59:40):
Did you pick the A and Miami game? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:59:43):
I came down minus three and a half against Miami.

Speaker 1 (01:59:45):
Yeah, I must have missed that. A couple of quick
tweets before we get out of here. Yeah, and there's
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(02:00:05):
actually really, really, really good, and Ryan writes, Joe Burrow
Los Angeles Ram next season could happen if Burrow threatens retirement. Boy,
since it an't much as be terrible, Yeah, exactly, But
I flew in there very cold today, very cold. But
they got it done, and Joe Burrow needs a bit
of patience rights Colin Sean McVeigh, and the Rams will

(02:00:29):
be in need of a quarterback in a couple of years,
the guys already having to go to the Rams. All right, Arnie,
have a great week. We'll be back recapping the first
round of the playoffs and talking Week sixteen of the
NFL next Sunday on Fox