Chris Plank & Arnie Spanier react to the Crazy SNF Game between the 49ers & Bears, Week 18 Schedule Release, & MORE!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. Now, let's go,
stinking Junior.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Let's go, big boy, let's go, let's go.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
Fun Sunday night football game taking place right now.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Thank goodness.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
The season's over.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Seven minutes left in the game, thirty five thirty five.
But the Bears are driving on the forty nine ers
deep in Niners territory looking to take the lead. What
do you mean you want now when Quinn yours?

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Huh?

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Yeah, you should be happy. You should be one this
season to continue, right.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
He's the right handed to us stop it. Hey, won
you know the one thing I will say, I do
like that he's throwing the ball downfield. That was the
one thing that bothered me about to there was an
interesting stat he had two touchdowns, say past ten yards.
Has had one game of two touchdowns past ten yards

(00:56):
in the last two years, so you get in two
years in two years.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
That can't be right because they stretch the field with
Waddle and Tyreek Hill.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
But everything is I don't think, yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Think you're making that up.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
There's a good way I think, so get.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Well, Well, this has been fun and I know that
Willard covered San France covers San Francisco, so he's probably
bit his fingernails down to his quick watching this.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah, but as.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Just just a neutral observer, as somebody who's just wanting
some good football. I mean, I don't know about you, Arnie,
I don't I don't care about your defense. This has
been hell hell of entertaining. In my book, tonight it is.
It's been fun. I enjoyed it.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Didn't expect that type of offense, at least from the Bears.
But no, there's been a good It's different, it's outside
the box. You don't usually get to see this type
of game. Usually the defenses step on up. And I
need the forty nine ers to lose. We don't want
them to win and be able to play every home
game from now into eternity. So we got to pull

(02:01):
for them to lose.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
They could host the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Hadn't even thought about that, hadn't even thought about that
till the SEGA brought it up. And I don't, man,
I've watched this has been one of the best football
weekends I've had now outside of my teams.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
I mean, holy smokes, Vegas.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
There's there's elegant there's elegant tanking and there's whatever that
was today that was that was gross. But the games,
it's football, right, so we love it and it's the NFL,
and we still want to see our teams do well.
But I don't mean to jump all the way to

(02:39):
Roman numeral five. Yeah, and then also maybe intercept that
with let's see XV.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Roman numeral eighteen.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Yes, but Roman numeral five makes the statement tonight and
Arnie's Roman numeral rundown there. For some reason, he didn't
put on the X. He didn't want you guys knowing
all the secret sauce to the show.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Tonight, IDT. Yeah, I did put it on.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
That is this super Bowl truly wide open?

Speaker 3 (03:03):
I agree, And I think that makes the playoffs incredibly exciting.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Now.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
It means that you're gonna have a lot of teams
probably in the Jacksonville's and Chicago's and hell even Denver
and maybe the Chargers that have a chance to make
a run that we haven't seen in this position in
a while. But I also think for this season, Arnie,
it's lent itself to Roman numeral eighteen being very true,
which is very simply stated, bad bad Week eighteen question mark.

(03:34):
But I also think in watching as much football as
I have, as fun as these I mean, Green Bay
in Baltimore's pretty fun last night.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Now, I got away from the Green Bay late, right,
but it's a fun game.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
But I still think the NFL has like a week
seventeen week eighteen problem.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
There's a major problem. May, there's prob there's.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Just so little that appears to be on the line.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
I mean, now, the one seed to me is a
big deal, and it looks like it'll be up for
grabs and what bo the AFC and the NFC next week.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
That's exciting, right.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
But there's only really two matchups with true well three
I guess matchups with true playoff implications, and one of
them depends on what happens over the final couple minutes
of this game, right, Chris.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
To me, the best part of this time of year
is yes, I love the divisional races, but I even
love the wild card races more, where you have like
five teams trying to squeeze in two spots and you're
reading go off the fifth like an hour and a
half fourth of scenarios. Well, I just sit back watched

(04:36):
the game. I mean it's seriously, there's so many but
we didn't have that this year. It was just it
was just and we're not even all the way through
the season and we didn't have that this year. So
that's what I missed about going the playoff this year.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Do you, though, are you willing? Are you willing to
concede that? Okay, Week seventeen and eighteen, and like we said,
who knows, maybe next week that Raven Steelers game for
the AFC North is a banger, and we're all talking
about it next Sunday Night. Maybe just maybe what happens
between Carolina and Tampa, which I mean, do we We're

(05:09):
gonna know before we get out of here. What's gonna
be the Sunday night game. But I would think that
San Francisco Seattle is probably what NBC's rooting for. But
can you put the same team on Sunday Night Football
two weeks.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
In a row.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
You're gonna have to. That's the big game. But Pittsburgh's draw,
it is, Pittsburgh is a draw. I can't believe they
lost the Cleveland and should do or Sanders I saw that.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Nothing to do with you, Sanders, I know that, but
he was the quarterback.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Though. You gotta you gotta give him his credit. You
gotta give him because had they lost the game, they
would have been ripping them.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
But did you watch that game?

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yes, I did so, I saw the I didn't watch No,
I didn't watch the game.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
I watched all four quarters of that game, okay, because
we had it locally kind of full disclosure here. Today
I came home. I'm in mighty, the mighty metropolis of
the Arnie. I'm in Wood River, Illinois, and I watched
the Browns and the Steelers all four quarters because I
am a glutton for punishment and it was on here

(06:12):
for some reason locally. If I don't know, you can't.
The touchdown pass that he threw should have been picked.
He threw two of the worst interceptions I think I've
ever seen in my life. The fact that the Steelers
lost that game based on the way that Sanders played,
I mean, I would almost want to walk out and

(06:32):
fire Mike Tomlin right now. It's but I would also
add I would also, Now this is going to sound
incredibly hypocritical, I wouldn't be against Cleveland saying, hey, we're
gonna give him shot to start again next year. If
that yeah, especially if you're sitting there in the top five,
even though I think you're I haven't looked at Tank
Cathon yet because I've just been so disgusted that that's

(06:53):
what my life is right now. But I'm I'm not
against him getting a shot. We'll touch on that here
just a little bit, because yes, I watched all four quarters.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
I was there with you, Browns fan.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
I think your point, more than anything else, is if
you are that somebody that likes these scenarios, then as
much as you want to dog Pittsburgh for what happened today, Arnie,
you do want to thank them too, because it kind
of helped me.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Make this final week a little bit more relevant.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Right No one without that game, imagine what next week
would have done. And let me tell you something. The
NFL tried to avoid this by going to in division
games at the end of the year, right Yeah, And
it didn't do anything. It didn't fix anything, matter of fact.
But is this just a one year thing or is

(07:42):
this something that we have to look into every year?
I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
As it stands right well.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
By the way, quick update, Chicago's drive, as my brother
in law would always say, pootered out and they ended
up just kicking a field goal. So thirty eight thirty five.
San Francisco has the football back, though misfire on the
first play, set first two plays, third and six. Now
they have it in their own territory. What is that

(08:07):
about the twenty nine yard line? See if they can't
keep this drive alive four point thirty left in the game,
parties look pretty good as Spider's pick six. They get
a first down, so they'll keep this drive alive. I mean,
I guess, more than anything else, I'm just hoping that
the playoffs will make up for a little bit of
the grossness late in this season, and maybe it does.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Maybe.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
I mean, I'm rooting for a team that's gonna have
the first pick in the draft, and it was one
of the most every one in the country I think
got the Bills Eagles game, and I thought, as ugly
weather wise as that was excitement late, I thought it
was it was worth the price of admission.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Did you were you red zoning that or were you
watching that game in its entire.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
I was watching that one right, But I'm zoning the
first the early Okames question.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Did they ever cut away for a high light from
the Giants Raiders game?

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Think about I want you to really think about Mary
the seger Brie, who's all all They never I mean you,
I know it wasn't a game. I think it was
a CBS game that was on our Vice Vice Versa,
as we like to say. They never cut away and
gave you an update on that game. They I don't
even know if they had the score flashing during the thing.

(09:25):
So it kind of shows you just how limited your
options were. But with that said, Arnie, when you just
have that one game to focus on, I think you
and I are very similar in that, Hey, this can
be the greatest game we've ever watched. But I like
the idea of knowing there's like two or three other
games going on right now that have some sort of
impact on the way that the season is going to.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
And they were separate networks guys, and Arnie and I
talked about this a couple of nights ago. The fact
that it was parts of Nevada gut Raiders.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
And parts some reason New New.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
York, Connecticut, New Jersey, and yes, parts of Indiana. I
assume because the number on one overall draft choices at stake,
and maybe the Heisman winner will go to the loser
of this game.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Have we ever had, And again we're waiting on the
conclusion of this Niners Bears game. But as it sits
right now, you are looking at several chances, several teams
with a pretty good percentage chance to earn the number
one the home field advantage spot the first round. By Arnie,

(10:28):
I mean, as it stands right now, the Broncos have
won the division, they have a fifty six chance to
earn the number one seed.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
And why would they earn the one seed over in
New England thanks to the Raiders, right exactly one based
on their records in common games, and the Raiders beat
the Patriots in the opener and Denver's beating the Raiders
to watch the first round bye with that, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
And you're one of two wins They're gonna have all
seasons long. The Patriots, those I have a thirty seven
percent chance to get the one seed. The Jaguars are
at six point six percent, so still a pretty reasonable shot.
In the NFC, The Seahawks are at fifty nine percent
based on you know what happens tonight. The Bears are
at fourteen percent, the Niners are at fourteen percent. The

(11:17):
Rams are still in this thing at eleven percent. I'm
sure I'm gonna say this and someone's gonna tweet us
and say you had eight teams with a shot last year,
and that's fine, But it just it seems as if
there's for as little drama as there appears to be.
Can I at least sell you on the one seed
being up for grabs and the bit does that do

(11:38):
anything for you next week?

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (11:39):
It does? Yes, Yeah, I'm with to say on this one.
The one seed means that it's up for grabs means
a lot. It keeps being interested and the fact that
you went through all the other ones and you know
where they can fall in after that is going to
have its effect on the other seeds also, So at
least we got that going forward.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
And it's also where do where do the Seahawks play
the finale next week? At San Francisco head to head who,
by the way, had just scored to take the lead
with a couple of minutes to go.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Six play seventy five yards seventy five yards scoring drive
and what do you say there to sayga about a
thirty eight yard touchdown pass to jennings Man bri if
you hear celebration in the background.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
I know nobody cares about your fantasy team, but.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Briannamiro is in her fantasy championship.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Her quarterback is Brock Purty.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
Oh, so you had to pick on the first play
of the first play.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
I gotta tell you something.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
It's so cool to be home because my family's idea
of hanging in a good time is watching football. And
the overall reaction from a bunch of people that couldn't
care less about either the Bears or the Niners. Whenever
the pick six was thrown on the first play of
the game, it was like we were sitting in the
stadium or something. It just uttered. We had to rewind it.
It's like what just happened as the first play of

(12:56):
the game.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
This last TV to Jennings, he'd only had one catch
all night. Ricky Piersoll's healthy and playing tonight. He's been
the leading receiver. Jennings gets in the lead forty two
thirty eight two point fifteen to play in the Bay Area.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Let me let me go full circle here real quick
on you just ask you this question, and then I'll
pose my answer to you too. How do you fix
this if you are sitting here today and there's somebody
that's been complaining on social media or waiting around for
an opportunity to fire away. You're disdained for what the
NFL's final two weeks have become.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
How do you fix it?

Speaker 2 (13:30):
It's it's a one year thing. One of all, you
can't you can't fix it. There's nothing you could really do.
I even understand why the NFL went to divisional games
for the final was it the two weeks or even
more than that, right, Chris three? Three weeks? Because they
they wanted to have meaningful games. So if you're fighting
it out for the divisional title you got at the
end of the year, obviously you got that going. But

(13:52):
there's nothing you can really do to fix this. Even
if you said let's go out out of division, I
don't care.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
I mean, the Raiders and the Giants aren't in the
same division.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
But I understand what right, right exactly if you went
out of conference, right, A division doesn't really solve anything,
like you just said, with the Raiders and the Giants,
So nothing you do. I think it's just a one
year anomaly. You just kind of just deal with it.
I don't think we've ever you know, we've been doing
the show with twelve years, have you ever said it's
been a horrible last week or two.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
I think people do forget because of the NFL product
in general. It's just so ridiculously popular. It's teflon. They
can do no wrong. People don't remember that late seasons,
the football itself is often quite bad. Today included Hey, Di.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Seger, how bad have we complained about the first round
of the wild Card over the last few years too?

Speaker 4 (14:39):
I mean, you got to go back, and this gets
back to what you asked about the one seed in
the NFL. It's it's not baseball where two teams get
the first round off. You have seven teams in each
conference get in and only one of the seven gets
to take the first weekend off. In a physical sport
like football, I think that's big.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Let's get our first time out in. Here we are.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
We are at a break in what has been an
incredibly entertaining Sunday night football game. There's this part of
me where I almost want to yell at the TV.
Every so often he say, we've earned this. We've earned this.
Today heading down the home stretch, touchdown forty nine ers.
They leaded forty two thirty eight. Let's see what magic
Caleb Williams has. What's the stat six fourth quarter company

(15:23):
behind wins.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
It's not just that it's six when trailing in the
last two minutes, which is the most in the NFL
since the merger with the AFL in nineteen seventy.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Wow, if people won the rag on this guy, huh
Chris Yeah? Oh?

Speaker 4 (15:39):
His two long team passes were buttes that arm was
being shown off.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Friday cried after a college game, we can't draft this gun.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
It's funny because that's what Arnie so now he makes
fun of the people that said it. I wouldn't go
anywhere because who knows what's going to happen by the
time we get back. Was the right call made in
Buffalo though, That's where everybody has kind of put their
foot down today. Where the Bills right to go for two?
Should they have tried to kick to the extra point?

(16:09):
He got to overtime. We'll debate and discuss next with
Arnie and Plank. We're rolling on a Fox Football Sunday.

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Speaker 3 (17:03):
Ye, all right, One twenty forty go in the game,
Bears just crossed midfield, face a third and four Niners
lead at forty two thirty eight up. Caleb's on the move,
first down, drive a live. It's been fun, man.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
I hate when you're ahead of me by like twenty seconds.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
I hate Arnie.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
You and I have done this radio show together for
many years. I don't care because I've had to live
with you. Ruining so many of me. You ruined the
Dodgers Astros World Series, the Dodgers Blue Jays World Series.
You've ruined Sunday night football games incessantly. I am fine

(17:47):
with my fee being a little bit ahead of you
and Arnie so badly Brie Mary Mack, and Sager wants
to be ahead. I'm willing to bet that he has
game cast pulled up so that way he can be
ahead of it, regardless of.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
What I'd say the game cas. But I'm not looking
at that right now.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Oh man, Hey, we're going to debate this a lot tonight,
and I already see on X, which is the way
that we communicate with y'all on a Sunday night, that
you guys are fired up when we're gonna get to it.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
Uh? Is Todd out tonight? Did he get hurt? Did
he pull his handy trying to change out an HDMI cord? Breathe?
Is he still going to come on tonight? As far
as I know?

Speaker 4 (18:26):
Okay, is there something I should be aware of?

Speaker 2 (18:28):
I have no idea. I didn't think he hurt himself.
I didn't hear anything.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
He threw a tweet out that said that he injured.
He pulled his hamstring, changing an HDMI cord. So and
Jason B.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Diamond, who can I kind of consider the show's lieutenant,
was immediately wondering if we needed to find a replacement
for him for tonight. But you say, all is well,
all is good to go with Todd. All right?

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Hey, by the way, we got also later on, we
have to get into a prediction that I made that
you completely destroyed me.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Okay, and we.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Laughed about it, but it was like the dumbest thing ever,
and then you bring it up from you know, time
to time that actually turned out to be true. Now,
so we got to do that later on too.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Wait, okay, so you're going, is this with the Jaguars.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
No, Well that you could be No, that's a simple thing.
We said that. I said that this year.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
Actually well actually you said the Jaguars were going to
be good because they had a Hall of Fame coach
in urban Meyer is the one who stays would be
quite a bit. But okay, well you've tempted my my
brain on this one. But let we'll get to that
coming up a little bit later on in the show.
And healthy Todd Ferman coming up an hour or two.
But it seems as if the major topic of conversation

(19:40):
and we're split right down the middle on this one.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
With the Bills in the right to go.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
For two at the end of that game, I say yes,
because you just had your field goal kicker Mixing miss
an extra point and it got blocked and it wasn't
even close.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
And why not.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
I mean, New England's gonna be Miami next week that
battle for the one seed.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
I mean, we'll see, But what do you think?

Speaker 2 (20:03):
All right? I was watching the game with my wife.
First of all, I want to tell you I was
surprised that he went for two, but I'm okay that
he did go for two. And matter of fact, I
was watching with my wife and they had scored. We
thought they had scored the play before, so I was
thinking it was a touchdown. I said to my wife,
do you go for two? And just like, nah, you

(20:24):
don't got for you tie it up? So uh, And
then of course they didn't score. Uh. And they went
ahead and scored, and I knew they were going for
two because the coach had put up the two two
fingers to go for two when they thought they had
scored the touch up before. So yeah, I was surprised

(20:47):
that they went for two, but I'm totally okay with
it. It was a big, big play, had a man wide
open in the end zone, a terrible throw, and it's
going to cost him, Chris. That was a that that
miss is gonna caused him like three spots. Yeah, spots.
So that was a bad, bad loss by them.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
It was open is what's got to be enraging. I
don't know if this is right. There's a part of
me that wonders if that first touchdown or what we
thought was a touchdown was at Kincaid where they ruled
it is uh his rised band. Yeah, it was down
before the goal. It was a good but I mean

(21:27):
it's also that part of me where you've got to
zoom in.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
You gotta see one bladed grass.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Move exactly exactly.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
I mean, do you think they were going for two
if he was in on that? Do you think maybe
going forward on the fourth down change their their philosophy
on that at all?

Speaker 2 (21:42):
No go for too regardless, he held up the two
fingers after that touchdown, after the third down fachdown.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
So okay, I missed that.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Yeah, That's how I knew they were going to go
for two. But I'm okay with it, just surprised, but
completely okay with it. But again, you you've caused yourself.
And again, the only time you should go for two, Chris,
I love when people go, oh, I'm okay with not
when there's like fifty seconds left or forty seconds left.
It's gotta be the last play of the game. You
can't give the other team a chance to come down

(22:14):
and kick a field goal because otherwise going for two
is completely useless. So there's no big reward, but there's
a big risk if you get it and lead the
other team time. So this was the right move.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Okay. I don't think I'm gonna have to argue with
you on that.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
But you know what I didn't see though, Chris. You
know what, I would love the scene. Would you know?
They usually put up go, you know, go or kick.
They didn't break that up. I would have loved to
see the percentage on that, considering the kicker got the
kick blocked, you know what would have been the percentages
on that? And that's the one time they didn't do it.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Yeah, And by the way, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
I watch a lot of college and pro football and
I never feel like on a fourth down when they
have those percentages up, they say, don't go.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
It's fourth and sixteen. Oh go.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
It's always like they're telling them they need to go
in these games, in these situations. But we're in a
situation right now before we get to the sagas first
in show update, thirty three seconds left in the game.
It is fourth and five. This is a no doubt go.
You're down by four, you're knocking on the red zone.

(23:22):
You're at the twenty six yard line. Bears need a
first down. They have one time out left to keep
the game alive. They get it, they'll push it down
to the thirteen yard line.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Oh wow, So with Bears.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Wait are what are you trying to do here? You're
trying to curse the Bears? Stop it.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
Steve de Sager's got an update and we'll have obviously
in the middle of this update, Steve, we might have
this game come to an exciting conclusion.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Because it's been an interesting day in Week seventeen of
the NFL.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
What you got say not just an interesting game. This
is the first time in the history of the NFL tonight,
in a regular season game that it's been tied at seven,
tied at fourteen, tied at twenty one, tied at twenty eight,
and it was tied thirty five thirty five.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (24:08):
And then remember the Bears had to settle for a
short field goal with about five minutes to go in
a battle of touchdowns. That might be what cost them.
Bears have just taken their final time out after getting
that fourth down completion to the rookie tight end Colston Loveland.
So now we've got four plays essentially from the thirteen

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yard line for the Bears.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
Can't commit a penalty, they'll run ten seconds off now.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
Yeah, out of timeouts. Here forty two to thirty eight,
San Francisco in the lead, brock perty with over three
hundred yards passing five total touchdowns. Amazingly, the NFL puts
along this stat tonight. What other quarterbacks in a primetime
game the last forty seasons have had like Purty at
least three passing touchdowns and two rushing touchdowns. The answer

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is only Michael Vick. In the last time in twenty ten,
the forty nine ers just in the first half had
three hundred and thirty yards of offense, their most in
a first half since nineteen ninety eight, and they're playing
without tight end George Kittle Tonight out with the ankle injury,
and very early star tackled Trent Williams left with an

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ankle injury. And still they've been been able to succeed
on the ground. DeAndre Swift getting a carry for a
first down that.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
Was a They did the hooking ladder. They did the
hooking ladder pass just like they did near the end
of the Bills game.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
So they've got to spike it and they do four
four seconds.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Enough to get two plays in.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
Oh man, so they.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
I love it hooking lateral as it's not sorry because
it was a lateral to.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
The running back. Look at you, well, I heard.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
On the previous show tonight there's there's the hook ladders.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
I've always said that.

Speaker 4 (25:58):
To you, and it has that name is because it's
similar to the word ladder, like you know, fireman hook
at ladder. So the latteral to DeAndre Swift gets him
down to the two yard line.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Dave, call this baby, this could be ballgame here.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
I think the Bills ran that same play today.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Un fourth down, you never listened to me. I literally
just said.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
That they're taking up all the time on this final incompletion,
this is going to kill it in the end zone.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
Wow, Caleb Williams danced around, avoided the d barely got
the snap off. It looked like the play clock had expired.
And to say, what did they name tonight?

Speaker 2 (26:39):
They should review that it did expire?

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Well, I mean he threw an incomplete pass. So ballgame.

Speaker 4 (26:45):
Place counted San Francisco twelve and four. The Niners will
be the one seed if they win the finale against
the Seahawks, who have also won six straight. Carolina a
loser at home to Seattle twenty seven to ten.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
So is that winner gets the one seed next week?

Speaker 4 (27:03):
Yes, should be because Seattle loans the one seed right
now and the Niners would get it, would steal it
with them in there. So you either for tey next
Sunday night pick that, or.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Niners don't have to leave home at all for the
rest hosting.

Speaker 4 (27:16):
The Super Bowl. Yeah, to decide the AFC North, We've
got the Steelers hosting Baltimore next Sunday. That's also an option.
Pittsburgh could have clinched the division title today but lost
thirteen to six at Cleveland. I mentioned Carolina lost at
home twenty seven to ten to Seattle. Carolina ends the
regular season at Tampa Bay to decide the NFC South.
But Tampa Bay is seven and nine, they've lost seven

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of their last eight games.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
Why can't they review that? See that the clock showed
zero zero? The place shouldn't have counted. Play. Yeah, give
a five yard penalty and get another playout of it.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
But they will run out of time.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
You know, the clock doesn't start with clock never would
have started because because the play in double zero. So
they get a penalty, they move five yards back, and
they get another play.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
It's like getting bailed out by a false start, is yeah,
your own problem exactly?

Speaker 2 (28:10):
The thing I would call the flag on myself. What's
going on here?

Speaker 4 (28:13):
At what's going on idium? The play clock is not
low enough to be in the shot from the other
end zone. It's farther up behind the upright so we
couldn't see in one shot the play clock and the
back of the quarterback. Forty two to thirty eight. San
Francisco does win, and New England won today to clinch
the AFC East forty two to ten at the Jets.

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The Miami win was twenty to seventeen over Tampa Bay,
and the Dolphins blocked a fifty five yard fud goal
attempt late in the first half wound up winning by three.
Jacksonville won at seventh straight twenty three seventeen at Indy.
I mentioned Cleveland with a home win. Cincinnati, with the
worst defense in football, got a home win of thirty
seven to fourteen over Arizona, which tells you all you

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need to know about the Cardinals this year. They have
lost eight straight. New Orleans on its fourth in a
row thirty four to twenty six at Tennessee, Monday Night
Rams at Atlanta, and in the NBA it's a final
in La Kawhi Leonard scored fifty five points career Hi
right while he was playing huh he had twenty six
just in the third quarter and was probably gonna sit

(29:18):
the fourth quarter, but Detroit got closer, so he got
a few more minutes. Fifty five points one twelve ninety
nine over Detroit and now the only game still going.
Also in LA Lakers lead, Sacramento won ten to ninety
with under seven minutes to go. Luka Donsich thirty one
points in thirty one minutes. There was a men's college

(29:39):
basketball game. College hoops has resumed after the Christmas break
men and women, but a men's game at New Mexico
State Aggie's one oh four to thirty three against the
University of the Southwest. I'm sorry, I'm not familiar with him,
but they shot twenty percent from the floor and had
twenty two turnovers. How often in a hoops get and

(30:00):
your number of turnovers is higher then your shooting percentage number?

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Why why is there on the schedule?

Speaker 4 (30:06):
Yeah, exactly why. It's kind of like the SEC every
November in football. Women's college basketball top twenty win for
UCLA at Ohio State eighty two to seventy five.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Back to you stakes. There is something at stake here tonight.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
Get more games where there's something at stake and maybe
we'll get an exciting, thrilling finish like the Niners forty
two to thirty eight win over the Bears. Luther Burden
one hundred and thirty eight receiving yards, the most in
a game by a Bears rookie since Marcus Anderson had
one seventy six back in a nineteen eighty one Week
seven game against the Lines.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
But to catch what happened after the game, No he
was down.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
He was down in the end zone and he was
being tended to by a medical personnel. Look like they
were looking at his like hopefully things are okay. I
haven't seen him go back to that shot.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
Goods he had dropped a third down out past with
about thirty seconds left. Now, they converted to the tight
end on the play right after that, but I believe
that was the last time they went to them.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
Mike Tarico said, they will have a week eighteen schedule
before they go off the air, and yes, there is
two Saturday slots that need to be filled.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
You know what Thiers was, I couldn't fight. I couldn't
find anywhere would have said two Saturday games to be determined.
Couldn't find that anywhere on the schedule for the NFL.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
The entire schedule is TBD for the next week.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
But they didn't that they're all on New Sunday.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Though they have two games on Saturday.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
They they've always had two games on Saturday, and they
don't have a Monday night football game in the final
week of the season unless it's been one of those
things that have shifted with kind of the new look
of the schedule this year. You know you look ahead
to next week, and what am I saying? Like the
NFL cares about the college football schedule?

Speaker 1 (31:50):
Yeah, I was.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Gonna say, hey, look look at that in next week.
But that's all.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
That's also on day night of the college Round one
going up again the NFL.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
Yeah, well, I mean going up against the NFL and
having two dog games.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
I mean, he was, I can't do that, but.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Four billion, five millions.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
Okay, it's gonna be Panthers Bucks on the Saturday Saturday
afternoon and that makes it inside the division and Seahawks
Niners is gonna be on Saturday night? What which means
Steelers Sunday night.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
I guess Wow.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
They're gonna put the Niners and the Seahawks. Okay, then
who has the Saturday night game?

Speaker 4 (32:31):
They're both they're both a company.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Oh are they? Okay? Interesting?

Speaker 4 (32:36):
Not stream interesting? Not final week.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
Hey, I I watched the Peacock broadcast last night.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
I didn't realize I had Peacock.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
I couldn't find it.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
I'm not lying it, I'm not who was calling the game?
Do you?

Speaker 4 (32:50):
No Eagle? He works for in Noah? Yeah, and Todd
Blackledge the same company.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Hand up? I mean I like, Noah, I listen, they
weren't very good last night, didn't.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
He worked the day before with the Netflix maybe, so
he had to go from Minnesota to Green Bay.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
He worked interest oh.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
Off Is Steelers next Sunday night hosting because we only have.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
One play by play guy in the I guess United States, right.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
I mean I'm sitting there and I'm watching this game,
and it's, like I said, again, I didn't realize I
had peacock. It's it's pretty exciting, right, You're getting Malik
Willis doing things that we thought Malik Willis could do
when he was drafted. And uh, they're acting like they're
just having a conversation at the dinner tables, like there's
first down.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
I mean, what are we doing? Guys?

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Come on, little pap in the staff, let's go if
Arnie and I just came in here every Sunday night
because we worked the game our show on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
We were like, well, I like that game. Do you
like that game? And he's like, yeah, it was a
good game. You guys would destroy us, so destroy us.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
It was the only thing that was missing was as
the pitch goes down low.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
For a ball, yeah, exactly, exactly. I'm like, no, let's go,
and I like you, you know, you're young, you're up
and coming. I mean, you're great. But that was a
big swing and a miss on Saturday night with the
Packers game.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
Okay, okay, So we repeat for sure this Saturday to
decide a division title Panthers, Bucks four thirty Eastern, and
then this Saturday night to decide the one seed sem
Knox forty nine Ers.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Then how many meaningful games will there be on Sunday?

Speaker 4 (34:24):
Like one for seeding. There's still bunched up in the AFC,
but like NFC, not a lot, because you know the
Rams might be the last team out on this musical
chairs as far as trying to get a one seed
after their loss at Seattle, and we know the Green
Bay is locked into the seventh seed. So for sure,

(34:44):
Steelers next Sunday night hosting Baltimore for a division title.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
All right, quick break, We'll come back and try to
make sense of the playoff picture with Arnie Spanier. I'm
Chris Plank. This is a Fox Football son. By the way,
JP got this right. JP got this one hundred percent
right off the X. I knew the forty nine Ers
had it once. Arnie said my bears.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
I still think they should have thrown the flag on
themselves and said that the play clock get double zero.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Am I the only person saying this, I'm the only
person smart enough.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
For what Maybe so you might be smarter than everyone
on Twitter.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
I feel like nine out of ten times when I'm
watching an NFL game that the offense doesn't get to
snap off before the play clock expires.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
I know you get that like split second, but you
know when you're getting when you're reviewing it. How could
you say, well, how close enough? So we're just going
to give it to you? But it doesn't work that
way in the review. I don't understand what's going on.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Well, I mean, are you even sure that is a
play clock violation? Reviewable?

Speaker 3 (35:48):
Yes, the status of the eight clock is reviewable, but
the play clock itself isn't challenged directly. Replay can reset
it to twenty five seconds after certain stoppages or for
official review related issues, with new rules even allowing review
to add time back to the game clock if it
expired too soon. So you don't see the play clock

(36:08):
challenge very often. Gosh, if ever, good idea on your
part good idea.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
It is great idea.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
Then you know it got me thinking, you know, I
can't believe I didn't bring this up. If the great
debate is should the Bills have gone for two or not?
Then I think the other one is how come people
aren't losing their mind over that blatant pass interference call
at the end of the Steelers Browns game. The final
play of the game of Mark is vaulting scanting in

(36:34):
the corner of the end zone. The cornerback has his
hands up. It is not like an underthrown pass with
a guy. I mean, it is a pretty good throw
by Rogers, and it's like blatant passing. And I'm not
trying to rain on your prey here. Browns fans, congrats
on your win. And I'm sure you like potentially ruining
your arch rival Steelers season, But Arnie, isn't that a flag?

(36:56):
Like ten out of ten times in this game?

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Just sometimes the officials are just so intimidated, and you know,
especially when it's the end of the game, like, that's
the hell with it, let's go, man, that's it. No
incomplete basid, where the hell audience there's they just you know,
they officiate the end of the game completely different other
than they do any parts, so I could see why

(37:18):
they didn't want to call a flag on that.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
Your choice.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
Do you want to because I was thinking we kick
off next hour with you beating your chest about this
prediction that you've had wrong, but now all of a
sudden it's magically right.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Or do you want to do it now because I
did some of these tweets?

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Okay, let's hit the tweets. I'll do it next hour.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
All right, that works at stinking Genius one. I'm at
Plank Show. Colin brings up a great point. You're right
to beware, Plank. The chief Super Bowl victory this year
is losing to the Raiders, which results in them not
getting the number one draft pick.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Let's let me tell you guys something.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
After watching both the Raiders Broncos game, and I can't
even say that I fink I watched the game cast
of the Raiders Giants game.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
If the Chiefs lose this game.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
To the Raiders, then there is some obvious funny business
that's going on in Kansas City because that Raiders team
that they put on the field today, and I don't
think anyone didn't play hard. I don't think anyone didn't try.
But Arnie, I think they would have lost to college teams.
That was an absolute embarrassment.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
No, I'll tell you. I'll tell you one thing I
beat in my just about that. I was right and
it played off this week big time was I said,
look for the games that teams are just like, oh,
they're just giving up and they're gonna get blown out,
like the Patriots. Yeah, and like the Giants. But the
big one I told Brian no I texted them before

(38:45):
the game was Cincinnati laying like twenty against the Cardinals
and they covered. So you had three games that went
ahead and't destroyed their opponent.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
And these aren't necessarily you have to uh, these are
special spreads. These aren't numbers that are out ultimate. Gotta
go alternate spread on that front. But if the Raiders
lose the Chiefs next week, something is very wrong. Uh,
Gunny right, Arnie? If you had five grand to bet
on a single game in the Cony coming weeks, what

(39:18):
would it be. I'd most likely take the other team
and feel good about it.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
No, you wouldn't. I don't know why you have getting
the green flight that I I this week, though I
did have I won three and four?

Speaker 3 (39:27):
Yeah, that's why, because you had a pad a week.
Is there one that jumps out away? You know, let's
save it for your picks.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Yeah, I get to I'm not giving it now.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Victor wants to know.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
He asks every single week, and I probably don't get
to it, but he writes, Arnie, can the Texans.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Reach the Super Bowl? Man?

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Of course, the way they're on a roll too? What
is that eight in a row er? And they went
on the road and their defense is so odd? Is
it the best defense in the NFL? Yeah, they can.
And C. J. Strout is back on his game.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Good year, minimisidic year. Goodyear, So minimize mistakes. If they
don't turn the football over.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
I think they have a chance to be playing at
least into the final four in the AFC.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
We'll see.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
They've got a few injury issues they've got to deal with,
and I mean, let's see what the matchups look like.
Who would have thought that the team we're talking about
down the stretch, Arnie, potentially making a run out of
the AFC South is Houston and not Indianapolis where they
lost Daniel Jones and the bottom completely fell out unbelievable.

(40:31):
And by the way, Ralph asks any fillin's coming up, Arnie,
because I need Arnie to drive the car so we
can do a Jason impersonation.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
Oh oh, you'll hear it.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
Tomorrow night, we'll tell you about a next Ralphie stick around.
That's the stinking genius, Arnie span you're on Chris Plank.
We'll recap in week seventeen on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. Well, the schedule
for week eighteen is set.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
After a thriller, Sanford Cisco stays very much alive for
the number one seed in the NFC. They beat the
Chicago Bears forty two to thirty eight. They improved a
twelve and four on the season, and next Saturday night, Yeah,
Arnie Spanier, the Niners will host Seattle for the top
seed and the NFC West Championship. That'll be at eight Eastern.

(41:21):
The NFC South will be determined at four thirty Eastern
on Saturday between the Panthers and the Bucks and the
only other game that is a true like one on
one matchup with teams that have true playoff possibilities. This
is a division in the playoffs for Baltimore and Pittsburgh
who will play next Sunday night on NBC and we'll

(41:43):
be all over it right here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Yeah, I'm not sure I would have done that. What
was the most important thing they were trying to do?
Give significance to Saturday and pretty much cutting their Sunday
morning lineup and making sure the Sunday night game is
has significance and that's it. I'm not sure who takes
precedent and you know what's the most important for ratings?

(42:06):
You know, when it comes to this stuff, it's just crazy.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
So by my count, as far as playoff seating is concerned,
for Sunday, you have five games, maybe a sixth if
you don't include, but the only like one on one
versus matchup. I mean, I don't want to keep saying

(42:30):
one on one it's Baltimore and Pittsburgh. Like, for instance,
you look at Green Bay, Minnesota, that's a game that's
got playoff positioning all over it. Jacksonville, Tennessee, Houston, Indianapolis,
playoff positioning, Roy Chargers Broncos is it's got playoff positioning
right because Denver's already clinched the West. But I think

(42:54):
the Sager was laying it out that you could have
now with what happened to Buffalo, they could end up
anywhere from like five, six or seven.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (43:03):
The bad news for Chargers and Buffalo they've each lost
to Houston. So even if Houston doesn't win its division,
they'd be the best of the non four division winners.
Houston would be five.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
Seed, by the way, the forty nine Ers win. And
I remember as we were watching that game head down
the wire, we were looking at the playoff predictor on
ESPN dot com. And now the NFC's one seed battle
fifty point eight percent for the Seahawks, forty nine point
two percent for the Niners.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
And still very good news for the Bears to get
a two seed, by the way, because they've beaten Philadelphia's
so right now it's Bears two Eagles three. Bears just
need a win next weekend they're hosting Detroit or an
Eagles loss and they'll be clinching a top two sets.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
And by the way, the Texans are gonna win next
weekend because they're they're at home against the Colts. Colts
ain't beating anybody now.

Speaker 4 (43:53):
And the Colts are not apparently playing Philip Rivers at quarterback.
With nothing to play for, they were officially eliminated yesterday.
NFL Network says they're likely to start Riley Leonard in
their finale, and Arnie was right about Houston. They won
eight in a row after yesterday's victory. It is the
best defense in the NFL. They only allow sixteen points
a game and only about two hundred and seventy total

(44:15):
yards a game.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
I was trying to think of a quarterback older to
start for the Colts than Phillip Rivers, a former cult
I blanked out. I just couldn't do it.

Speaker 4 (44:23):
Play yeah, Earl Moore, Old Johnny Unitas, Okay, Johnny United.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
They could well where they could, But what there was
another one? I was thinking.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
I just couldn't damn George Blanda.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
No, no, I'm talking about that. He played for the Colts.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Oh, for the Colts, Johnny. You was pretty old, wasn't he.
Yeah he was.

Speaker 4 (44:40):
He still played with the Chargers a year or two
after that.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
I can't remember his name. I will come to me.

Speaker 4 (44:45):
I don't think anybody in the quarterback well.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
Burt Jones. Burt Jones is the name. Remember him? You
got to remember him.

Speaker 4 (44:54):
The Segar Yeah, Lsu.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
Well, yeah, of course we do. Remember, uh you want
to do this more Colts quarterbacks? I mean there somewhere too.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
That's it. That's my ballege.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
That was it.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
Okay, So I again pardon my ignorance on this, but
New England and Jacksonville technically are still very much alive
for the top seed in the AFC if Denver stumbles
next week or am I misremembering.

Speaker 4 (45:19):
New England certainly because they have the same record as Denver.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
And unfortunately that tiebreaker.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
Here's the updated fifty six percent for the Broncos, thirty
six percent for the Patriots, and yeah, the Jaguars still
alive with a seven percent chance to earn the number
one overall seed. I think that would involve yours Ofphins
beating the Patriots and the Chargers beating the bronxce.

Speaker 4 (45:40):
You remember the Jags just one a week or two
ago against Denver head to head.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
So Jaguars won the AFC West this year. In fact,
the team that I think the chiefs of the two
worst teams in the AFC West, came the close to
beating them. Raiders went for two after scoring the game
tying touchdown to try to win it, and it took
but Trevor Lawrence picking up a drop snap and running
it into the anxiety Chiefs.

Speaker 4 (46:05):
That's right. But the the win at Denver recently, it
was tied with eight minutes left and Jacksonville wound up
winning by two touchdowns. And of course the Jaguars just
slaughtered the Chargers in the second half mid November of
their matchup.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
Just what were you wanting?

Speaker 3 (46:23):
It's alread even playing Carroll on Fox Sports Radio Arnie
before we get to some of these really good tweets
tonight and Todd for him and his in and we
got to talk about the college football playoff opportunity that
you guys have to win a lot of money, which
I think is really cool.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
But what are you beating your chest about?

Speaker 2 (46:37):
By the way, I think I've been banned by the contest.
I think I've been banned by them.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
I just don't think you know how to log in.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
I think no I did my picks. I just know
that they haven't put me with the with the.

Speaker 4 (46:49):
That would be true for any contest.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
No I did that. What about let me tell you
what would beat my just about? Remember a couple of
years ago, I said, you know, they should start this
guy a quarterback. He's a he's he's better than the
quarterback they got starting right now. And You're like, are
you serious? Are you serious? And then you kind of
verbally beat the hell out of me, and I'm like,

(47:13):
you know what, You're right? That was that was stupid
to say because you said it was like the dumbest
thing you ever said on the radio, and then you
know you're bringing up from time to time.

Speaker 4 (47:23):
That can't possibly be the dumbest.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
I mean, I know there's a lot of dumb but
you said it was the dumbest. And that's when I said,
you know, Baltimore should start Huntley instead of Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
Remember when I said that, don't you Robert, When I said,
you've been a noted Lamar Jackson hater.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
I sorely to start over.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
Because I heard another host taking credit for close to
the same Lamar Jackson's take about how he's you know,
that's it, he's not that good, blah blah blah. Maybe
that was right, Chris, to be honest with you all
the way back then, because I don't see him coming
back to the Ravens. I don't think they won him back.

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I don't think he wants to come back, to be
honest with you. And here's the real kicker. I know
there was some rumor about him and going to Miami.
I don't think I want him in Miami, to be honest,
if Dua was gone. So you know that's my take
on Lamar Jackson. But he's certainly gone down hill. And
I think it was right years ago when I said, hey,

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this guy. You know, I got big questions about him,
you know, and I think it turned out to be right.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
Well, I mean, we went he did win the MVP
after you've had these questions. So I mean, and number two,
you had Snoop as your starting quarterback with Miami last year, So.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
How did you didn't work out?

Speaker 1 (48:45):
I was a stat last night.

Speaker 3 (48:47):
That the uh the only two games in which the
Ravens had the rushing advantage like they had had been
games that Snoop Puntley had started because of injuries. But
I'll add this, Yeah, if you get a rushing performance
like Derrick Henry had last night on Saturday, I think
I could play quarterback and you could feel pretty good

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about your chance to win a game.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
But I don't think you're defending Lamar Jackson about all
the I mean, you don't think he's going to come
back or do you think they're gonna keep him? And
I don't think he wants to come back, I think
And another thing, howkab we're really not ripping him with
the season on the line because he had a was
it a bruise?

Speaker 1 (49:26):
Zach contusion?

Speaker 2 (49:28):
Isn't that what a bruise is?

Speaker 4 (49:30):
Yeah, he took a hit.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
OHI banana is what worst bruises on it? Than not
for crying out? Live and come on now let's go.
I mean quarterback right exactly? Oh? I mean, was he
hurt that bad? Jinny? You have been out there? Or
am I absolutely crazy on this?

Speaker 1 (49:46):
Well, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
I you don't and may you guys can call me
soft if you want. I take most athletes at the
word that if they can't go, they can't go.

Speaker 4 (49:59):
You remember players, yes, not basketball players.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
Basketball players is completely different world. Okay to saga, we're talking,
I'm talking. Thank you very much for that clarification. All right,
basketball and a one hundred and eighty two game season
in baseball?

Speaker 1 (50:11):
Right? Oh wait, what's the baseball is?

Speaker 4 (50:13):
That, right, there's more, there's one sixty two. There's more
load management in basketball, which has half the schedule. Yeah,
that baseball.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
But I will I will say you you you feel
free to question whether or not you think it was
soft that he didn't go with his reported back bruise
that he had. I think this is going to be
very interesting based on what happened Sunday night, because if
Baltimore does lose, you still have Lamar Jackson on the books,

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for I think is like a sixty to seventy million
cap it next year. And again, you're reaching that age
where you started to see things kind of diminish for
quarterbacks that were in the category of the guys who
could beat you with their feet, the Cam Newton's of
the world, the Steve Young's of the world. Right, and also,
you know, let's just be let's just be quite honest.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
He hasn't had a lot of success in the postseason.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
No, No, that's the that's the problem. That's where all
this is coming from. Though. And I do feel like
half the the Raven fans want I'm gone, Am I crazy?
Or what?

Speaker 1 (51:15):
Well?

Speaker 3 (51:15):
I think most NFL fans, I mean, the Lions fans
went Jared golf Con, I think you would. I mean,
if if the Jaguar fans would have had their way,
Trevor Lawrence would have been gone last year.

Speaker 4 (51:26):
So but I know what would really take the cake
is if the regular season ends are really Ravens way.
Next Sunday night, they're up double digits in the fourth
quarter and then lose.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
Yeah, that would Now, that would be right.

Speaker 4 (51:39):
Because that's happened, I believe twenty times with John Harborough
as the head coach on time.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
So I think Cardie, I think the future in Baltimore
goes beyond just Lamar Jackson. I think it's kind of
his John Harbaugh reached that point now to where that
message has become kind of stale. You know, everyone reaches
a limit at a certain place. See Bill bella check
got ran out of New England for goodness sakes with
seven Super or six Super Bowl rings.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
So uh it, there's a limit for everyone.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
And he'll get a job right away if he wants one.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
Oh so everyone that's like we need to fire Tomlin? Yeah, okay, good,
he'll be the Las Vegas head coach, you.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Know, oh absolutely head coach. Could you imagine if you
had a choice between Harbaugh and Tomlin, the coach of
the Raiders. Oh my, you'd be in heaven. Oh my goodness.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Man. Yeah, and I'll take your cast offs. I doth
not care. I want to win.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
And I also, you know, there's a there's a really
I had a conversation with the Lions fan the other
day and if we reacted like some fans do in
front office, I say we if if front office has
reacted like we do, then the Niners would have moved
on from rock Party last year. And you know, because
they were five and twelve or six and eleven.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
Whenever they had major injuries though Chris.

Speaker 3 (52:58):
Yeah, but I major Arnie. And when it comes down
to it, who does everyone.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
Blameack a quarterback to be out of all the realistic
choices and you you have a lot I'm talking about
like a Murray or even if you want to trade
for Lamar Jackson or Tua or even you.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
Know, I think when you when you have the number
one pick in the draft, you just you find you find.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Your best quarterback.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
You The Raiders have had the number one pick in
the draft twice in their franchise history, and they unfortunately
screwed it. Up with JaMarcus Russell. The Kirk Morrison DVD
story that he tells where they send him home to
watch the DVD and he's to watch it all like
it was a blank DVD.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Dude, is one of the greatest stories ever.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
But you go get your face in the franchise and
I don't I don't want to see any of your
dumb stats about well the number one overall pick quarterback
is only.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
No, I don't care. Don't care.

Speaker 3 (53:50):
The Raiders need a face of that franchise outside of
just Max Crosby, who I guess is mad at everyone
right now because they finally did the right thing and
shut him down.

Speaker 4 (54:00):
What you're asking for can be had without the number
one overall pick. You can trade down and get that.
Lamar Jackson was the last pick in the first round.
I mean, franchise quarters.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
Not getting Mendoza. What are you talking, abo, You're not
getting him besides the first pick him?

Speaker 3 (54:16):
Are Dante Moore? I think Dontboy is going to factor
into this or thank you, Steve the Oregon quarterback. I
think Ty Simpson is going to factor into this one
all of a sudden, done.

Speaker 4 (54:25):
Justin Herbert is the definition of a franchise quarterback like
Philip Rivers Love was with the Chargers and they got
Herbert sixth overall.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
Yeah, the problem now is I don't think that you
would have been able to get I think in today's
NFL and now we're only going what's Herbert in.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
His fifth season, sixth season? He would have been gone
at like the third pick.

Speaker 4 (54:46):
People go on quarterback runs now like they did not before.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
By the way, if you had the first pick and
the Giants had the second and they called you up
and said, well, swap picks and we'll give you Jackson Dart,
would you do it? No? No, you don't like Jackson.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
It's not that I don't like Jackson Dart. It's just
I'm gonna go with Dante More our Francisco and our
Fernando Menosa, or or I'm gonna go Ty Simpson.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
Whoever. I evaluate. This is John.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
You've got John spy Tech and you are you are
drunk whenever you start talking about Tom Brady.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
Oh you got Tom Brady there now right, you.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
Got John spy Tech, Tom Brady, you got great quarterback evaluators.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
Find your guy and let me tell you something.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
Maybe you look at these guys and you're like, I
don't know, then you take that phone call.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Right.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
If they look at it and they're not all that
sold on it, then maybe you do when you say
we're open for business.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
I'm not one of those people that thinks the Raiders
are as far off as others are because I'm a
stupid homes So whenever you see like Spoe Track, there's
like the Raiders are a heck of a lot more
than a quarterback away. Yeah, dope, everyone's hurt. Everybody's out,
their best receiver out, their best defensive player out.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
One out will make that offense look so much better
one line, because you've got the running back, you've got
two tight ends that can produce. Throw a quarterback in there.
They can actually compete. And the thing is, when you
mentioned Jackson dart don't you agree that kind of like
Jaden Daniels, who was Rookie of the Year last year.

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If you have a running quarterback who, let's say, either
doesn't make good decisions of protecting his health Dart or
is a little slight and slender by NFL quarterback standards, Daniels,
they're not necessarily going to fulfill their contract like you are.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Well I mean, there's something that's still Josh Allen has
run a whole heck of a lot.

Speaker 4 (56:33):
And he's a beast. He's huge. He's so much more
big than Jaden Daniels, I know.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
But he's lasted this song though, and you know that
is still a you know, at least a plus for
him obviously. And you know it's not to say that
quarter running quarterbacks can survive. Jackson Dart's just taking these
big old hit start. It's crazy what he's going through.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
So you're saying on the record right now, you don't
think it matters that Jackson Dart is six foot two
and two twenty three and Josh Allen is six five
two thirty seven. You don't think that makes much.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
They're a little bit of a difference there. It does
make a but but you know, if I was a
Raider fan Chris and I could pick any quarterback that's available,
I would probably go with either Murray, probably Kyler Murray.
I'd probably go with him out of all the uh,
you know, i'd love them quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
I'd love that. But I don't think they're gonna go
get a veteran. I think they're gonna pick a quarterback
in number one, and they're gonna make him their guy,
and they're gonna give him every idea. If if Gino
Smith wants to stay around, fine he could be a
mentor for him. I mean you, I don't think Pete
Carroll's gonna be around. And if Pete Carroll's not around,
then Gino Smith's not gonna be If Pete Carroll's.

Speaker 4 (57:44):
Not around, then they get a new offensive line coach.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
And by the way, I'm so nice, I'm gonna give
you two it and all you have to do is
give me Max Crosby, okay, because he doesn't want to
be with you guys anyway, So whatever, I.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
Mean, you're right.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
So yeah, that sounds like a real easy deal. Just
make that happened, all right, We gotta break Todd. Firm
is coming next. By the way, the Raiders are at
like an eighty percent chance to have the number one
pick in the draft, with the Giants and the Jets
still in play for that top overall pick. We'll roll
through those numbers with Todd next. Zarnian playing Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 5 (58:15):
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Speaker 3 (58:27):
All right, it's Tarni in Plaank and Todd Ferman who
joined us laugh from Vegas.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
Oh Todd, listen.

Speaker 3 (58:33):
I know we've got all these great games to talk about,
but what is Vegas craving more than anything right now?
Fernando Mendoza, Dante Moore, Mike Tomlin. I mean, we gotta
get things figured out. That's embarrassing. Now we got Max Crosby,
Mad dude, what a disaster this is becoming Vegas is a.

Speaker 7 (58:51):
Change of ownership on the table because I think the
culture is with the Black and Silver at this point.
I really believe Max Crosby played his final down as
a member of the organization when you look at his
social media, amongst other things, and that effort today was
downright horrific. I mean, players aren't supposed to tank, but
the organization did a hell of a job making sure
that they were completely handcuffed. And it's really become an

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embarrassment regardless of where they fall in the draft.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
Thanks, but least Max hited a three point shot in
his gym. Did you see that shot there?

Speaker 1 (59:20):
Or what I mean?

Speaker 7 (59:21):
Look the Raiders could have used that on their offensive attack.
Crowsey wanted to go out there and play. He is
the leader of your defense and the organization as a whole,
So when the team wants to make a proactive effort
to shut him down, it's absolutely embarrassing and quite frankly
to slap in the face to the fans who actually
made the track out there to see the Raiders today,
and even more so for the folks that'll be out
there next week to watch them play the Chiefs in

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the regular season finale.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
Unbelievable, Todd, I want to ask you, I think I
was on this something last week. What I told you
the living against the dead. Go for the ballouts, go
with the alternative lines. Lay twenty. Look what Cincinnati did,
Look what the Patriots did, even what the Giants did
to the Raiders. Next week there's three or there's four
games with a spread of about ten points or more,

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and it could be big time blowouts. I think you'll
lay the alternative lines, Lay like fifteen, lay like twenty.
The Colts against the Texans, Texans at home, they'll probably
just slack them. The Bills all over the Jets. I'll
lay fifty with that one. I mean, it could be
a big victory for them, you know.

Speaker 7 (01:00:26):
And you might be the only human on the planet
that wants to lay fifty with Mitchell Trewiski even against
the Jets. But more power to you. Look week eighteen,
you're gonna get vautal results. You're going to get a
lot of teams that are gonna make personnel decisions as
the week progress. So this takes on a very similar
tenor to handicapping the preseason more so than it does
anything else. And you want to try and be glued
to the information sources if you want to get the

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best of the number. But some of the prices that
we see widely available tonight here on Sunday will be
a far cry from what these games look like as
we get closer to kickoff, with the trio of exceptions,
of course being the game two seventy two between the
Ravens and Steelers, although we'll still wait to see if
Lamar Jackson is good to go for the Ravens, and
then of course the tandem of games on Saturday, where
the Bucks are a three point favorite against the Carolina Panthers,

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and the nightcap for the number one seed in the
NFC between the forty nine Ers and the Seahawks.

Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
Why do you think the NFL decided to do so
much with Saturday, putting two of the three games that
have true playoff implications. Why do you think the Panthers,
Bucks and the Niners Seahawks were put on Saturday.

Speaker 7 (01:01:28):
I think you always want to try and create some
standalone type situations. A lot of the games that are
going to blend into the Sunday slate really don't have
much in the way of meaning other than trying to
figure out a little bit of the seating. There's a
lot less at least on the surface, that appears to
be needing to get decided in the final weekend of
the season than what we've grown accustomed to in the past.
So it's always the early games on Sunday that are

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the de facto throwaways for teams that already know they're
going home for the postseason, or the ones that'll be
continued playing on next week. And then you have a
unique situation between the Bucks and Panthers that if the
Falcons were to beat the Rams tomorrow night, that suddenly
they throw their hat in the ring. And there are
a couple scenarios with the Falcons game against the Saints
on Sunday will matter as well, but you figured that

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two night games are going to be ones that you
didn't impact other results or didn't need other dominoes to fall.
Of course, the number one seed in the NFC and
the NFC West Champions between the forty nine Ers and Seahawks,
and then the winner go home between the Ravens and
Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Todd, I know we're playing stands on this. I'm just
kind of curious. Let's say the Raiders do have the
number one pick overall. Should they take Mendoza or would
you prefer or do you think they should go after
a quarterback like a Lamar Jackson or Murray or tu
or somebody like that. What do you think they should
do with quarterback?

Speaker 7 (01:02:41):
Look, I don't think there are any franchise changing talents
in the NFL draft this year, but that may not
preclude the Raiders from using the number one overall pick
should that be where they land, to try and go
after a guy that they think fits their system. And
while I may not necessarily agree with all the talent evaluators,
it appears that Dante Moore has a leg up on
the competition to be that first overall pick, with a

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ceiling that we haven't exactly seen. I think, Fernando Mendozi,
you have a pretty good idea of exactly what he is,
and you dig into some of the numbers that he
put for so far the season at Indiana. I mean,
twenty seven of his thirty three touchdown passes came against
teams that either came from the Group of Five conferences
or came from teams that weren't ball eligible. So I
think there's a lot of noise in the Heisman Trophy winner,

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and I just don't see him being worthy of the
number one pick. But if the Raiders were able to
get a cheaper deal for a proven commodity, so to speak,
to kind of stabilize the position and get the best
player available given the roster has so many needs, then
maybe it is kicking the tires on a to Kyler
Murray or somebody else to kind of keep the seat
warm for the next couple of seasons.

Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
Oh that in mind, you just kind of segued right
into some college talk. When we reconvene next Sunday night,
we'll be down to the final four. You think any
upsets could be on the table for this weekend, I
should say.

Speaker 7 (01:03:54):
Yeah, Oregon Texas taxic one closest in terms of spread,
with Oregon laying two and a half in the Orange
Bowl the early kickoff on New Year's Day, and I
think it's a fascinating matchup. I've been higher on the
Big Ten than most. I think Texas Tech has a
very good run defense, but some questions with their secondary
and their ability to cash in drive is not settling
for field goals, So tough handicap there, But for me,

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the most fascinating of the four games when you look
at some of the other upset candidates. Look, I'm not
going to buy Alabama. I thought their win over Oklahoma
was more Oklahoma losing the football game than anything Alabama did.
I think Georgia will be able to make the coaching
adjustments at the half against an Old Miss team, even
though the Rebels did have a lead in Athens, and
we're pretty unfortunate failing to cover that game as a
touchdown underdog, let alone losing outright. And then the Miami

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Ohio State game. You're gonna want to monitor the injury
report for Miami if They're a little bit banged up defensively,
it'll create some problems. I think Ohio State gets a
chance to regroup a bit after losing in the conference
championship game against Indiana, and this is the Miami offense
that probably needs to find a way to manufacture seventeen
plus points and I'm not sure they're able to do
that against an Ohio State defense it's arguably the best

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in the entire nation.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
Todd, I think I need another round of home games.
I don't. I'm not liking the cot in, the Orange,
the rows, and the sugar. I think I need another
round of home games right now.

Speaker 7 (01:05:10):
And I'm not going to disagree with you at all.
I think the atmospheres that would be created in Columbus, Lubbock, Bloomington,
and Athens would be outstanding, and it would allow the
fans to be able to watch their teams and their
friendly confines, create a slightly more affordable environment and venue,
and have more energy and electricity in the building than
what we're going to get in these four neutral sites.

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The one of the four, though, that I always encourage
people to go to if you have a college football
bucket list, would be to get out to Pasadena. Given
the traditional star time there when the sun goes down
over the San Gabriel Mountains deep into the second half,
it is truly one of the more picturesque atmospheres that
you're going to get. And the great part about going
there in January first typically you never have to worry
about Mother Nature having her say and playing on a

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sloppy track.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
Hey, I know we catch you along, but real quick
before I let you go on, I'm looking at that
Saturday early game Panthers box Todd. I feel like I
asked you this a couple weeks ago and it hasn't
been fixed.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
So what has happened at Tampa Bay?

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
Where has things gone so wrong for a team that
had an MVP candidate and we thought could be a
Super Bowl contender.

Speaker 7 (01:06:11):
I don't think Baker's anywhere close to one hundred percent.
It looks like an offense that's trying to find an identity,
spreading the ball around to a bevy of pass catchers.
And while people worked under the assumption that just getting
Mike Evans Chris God when Jayalen McMillan back on the
field would instantly make that offense electric, it hasn't been
anything close to the case. I mean, there's a reason
that this team is now underwhelmed for two straight months.
At the betting window. They're riding at zero to eight

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against the spread run and it's their defense that's also
let them down. So you know what, they've given themselves
an opportunity to at least win next Sunday and still
get into the postseason and erase everything that's gone wrong.
I'm just not that optimistic the offense is able to
figure it out in another six days. But look, Carolina
Panthers don't light the world on fire as we saw today,
failing to even get to one hundred and fifty total

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yards of offense against that stingy Seahawks defense as well.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
Yeah, and taking a knee whenever you're down like three
scores in the final minute, had to beat Look, I.

Speaker 7 (01:07:03):
Look, maybe waving the white flag, but I respect it
for Dave Canalis knowing you were't going to win that
football game and you may as well live to try
and fight another day against the Bucks on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
Good point. All right, Todd, We'll talk to you next
Sunday and I have a great week, buddy.

Speaker 7 (01:07:15):
Always a pleasure gentlemen. I have a happy and healthy New
Year and can't wait to break down the college football
semi finals this time next week.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
Thanks New Year.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
Todd Ferman.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
If you don't follow him on Twitter, you're doing Twitter wrong.
Joins us every Sunday night here on Fox Sports Radio
Steve Seger with a look at what's going on.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
We saw a couple of games in action, right Steve, Lakers.

Speaker 4 (01:07:32):
The NBAS has finished, because the Lakers did take the
late game against Sacramento Luka Donsich thirty four points in
thirty three minutes. They beat the Kings one twenty five
one oh one. The other game in LA fifty five
points for Kawhi Leonard most of that first three quarters.
Clippers beat Detroit one twelve ninety nine. An update on
what he was saying about the Rose Bowl. And it

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is a sensational venue. I think it's probably the best
in football, but I'm biased.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:08:00):
It is number one Indiana against Alabama coming up this week.
That's Thursday is New Year's this week. However, they've moved
the kickoff to one o'clock instead of two o'clock Pacific,
which means when the sunset comes before five o'clock. I'm
not sure the game will be over, but it's not.

(01:08:21):
It's an hour off of what it has been. Let
me put it stand. Is that what you're saying, I'm
saying that it's still a standalone game, but they're starting
in an hour earlier. So we used to get the
second half sunset. What if the game is over by
the time the sun is setting, it's an hour difference
than what we're used to. On top of that, a
new storm is coming into La. We've had a ton

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of rain the past week. There is a near one
hundred percent chance of rain before the game on Thursday,
so it could be a wet track. And there is
certainly a chance of rain during the game on Thursday
in Pasadena because there's still a chance of rain for
two days after the game as well. So there's your
update on the Rose Bowl and looking forward to the game.

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Regardless of all of those facts, as we get the
Oregon game first that day, then Indiana, then Georgia in
the Superdome at night, well, we had a Bears Niners
shootout to finish NFL Week seventeens Sunday games forty two
to thirty eight. San Francisco takes it for a six

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to eight win. Brock Purty five total touchdowns after a
pick six on the first play. He had three hundred
three yards passing. Wide receiver Luther Burden of Chicago had
eight catches one hundred thirty eight yards in a score. However,
he was seen limping at the end of the game
on the way to the X ray room. It is

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called a hamstring injury because he was seen grabbing the
hamstring on the way after getting hurt on the final play.
So now we know, the San Francisco home game against
Seattle next weekend will be for the NFC West title.
It will be for the one seed in the NFC
and the first round by and it will be this

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Saturday night. It will not be next Sunday. San Francisco
hosts Seattle this Saturday night. And we've got Carolina ending
the regular season at Tampa Bay Day game this Saturday
to decide the NFC South. Carolina was beaten at home
by Seattle twenty seven to ten. Seahawks have won six straight.
Tampa Bay has lost four in a row and seven

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of its last eight. After losing at Miami twenty to seventeen,
New England won easily over the Jets forty two to ten,
five touchdown passes for Drake May the Patriots clinch the
AFC East title and to finish the entire regular season
schedule next Sunday night. In the NFL, it'll decide the
AFC North Crown. The Steelers will host Baltimore next Sunday night.

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Baltimore course was in action, winning at Green Bay. Last night.
Pittsburgh lost at Cleveland thirteen to six. Today wins for
New Orleans and Cincinnati, and also we had yesterday Houston
when it's eighth straight game, clinching a playoff spot with
that victory at the Chargers. As for the NHL, everything's
long final, including an overtime win for Detroit over Toronto,

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a shootout victory for the Lightning against the Canadians.

Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
Back to your thanks a lot, Steve. Get a couple
of tweets in here real quick at Jason B. Diamond,
and I think I'm with you on this one as well, Arnie,
He writes, I agree with Arnie and Todd there should
be an extra round of home games in the college
football playoffs. Why should teams with buys be punished?

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
You and Todd's right about the electric atmosphere. It's just
it's so much better, and I look forward to stuff
like that. I just hate that there are neutral slaves.
Plus who's really going to go. It's not the true
fan or the students, It's going to be the richual alumni.
So I think you need to have another round on
the home.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
Are you saying rich alumni aren't true fans?

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
Well, you know, come on now.

Speaker 3 (01:11:58):
They're the ones that are paying for the players. I
consider them to be the true fans. Dude, you better
readjust the way you're looking at this right now. Don't
ever win anything that Colin Wrights Malik Willis will be
the most sought after quarterback in free agency.

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
You're buying that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
Top three Maybe what do you think?

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
I mean options?

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
But see now I take that back top in free agency.
But I you know, I think like I consider Lamar
Jackson available, Murray available.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
To trade, and you're gonna have to trade.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
Right right, So you're right then if it's free agency,
I agree with that. If we're gonna count those other guys,
I'd still say maybe I agree with that. When you
would you would you rather take him over Lamar or
Murray Tour.

Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
Are you freaking crazy man? You'd rather take Malik Willis
over Lamar Jackson Sometimes in one game, he looked good
in one game last night. And by the way, the
shoulder injury that was. And again, maybe I'm being a
little overly dramatic, but it kind of seems scary. Whenever
he threw it, he wasn't hit, he just threw it

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and then he went down. And oh, by the way,
they got their asses kicked last night too. Okay, I mean,
I understand that everyone's kind of feel good on Malik Willis,
but didn't we do this with like Matt Flynn, like
a decade ago. No offense to Matt Flynn, who's a
great radio guy. Now loved the dude, but he wasn't
the dude that threw seven touchdown passes or whatever it was.

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Here's some other free agent quarterbacks. Daniel Jones, though we
know they that he's got the achilles injury.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
Aaron Rodgers could be there.

Speaker 3 (01:13:35):
Yeah, Russell, well, no, he's due to be a free agent.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
In twenty But I don't think Pittsburgh said they wanted
him back. I do, I'm not so sure.

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
Russell Wilson and Marcus Mario.

Speaker 3 (01:13:47):
So you might be right, Colin, because there's just not
much of a recruiting class. And then real quick, before
you get a break and get the segment in here,
Bill writes, what's your opinion on the Michigan Higher of
an older veteran coach? Is it enough to help recover
from the scandal ridden mess of Harbaugh?

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
And I said this when I was filling in. I
can't even tell you the days anymore. I thought it
was a very good hire. I thought it was gonna
be the Higher from the very beginning. When he stepped
on down. I thought this was in play from the
very start. It must it must have been that they're
waiting to see if the board lost that game and whatever.
I think it's a good higher.

Speaker 3 (01:14:25):
Whenever it was announced and he was stepping down, Michigan
didn't have a vacancy.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
Yeah, But when they had the vacancy, I thought they
were gonna go ahead and hire him. And I thought
maybe he knew something that the rest of us didn't know.
This was kind of not this was a secret, but
I guess a lot of people knew about it. But overall, yeah,
I think it was a good hire and I think
he's gonna do a really good job. I know he's
sixty six years old, but I think it was a
great hire for Michigan out.

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
Of too all right, we got a break.

Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
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Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
The Sager's next right here on Arnie Plank.

Speaker 3 (01:15:42):
All right, it's Arnie in Plank. He hello to Steve
is Sager. What's going on, Steve.

Speaker 4 (01:15:49):
H tonight? It was quite a shootout at San Francisco
forty two thirty eight over Chicago. So according to stat saying,
the Chicago Bears are the first team in NFL history
to all in one game, to score at least thirty
five points, including a defensive touchdown, have no turnovers allowed,
no sex, and still lose the game. So this is

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a battle. It was a battle of eleven and four
teams on the road. The Bears are now five and four. Still,
the good news is they only need one more win
or an Eagles loss to clinch a top two seed
in the NFC. Chicago host Detroit next Sunday. And since
we have seventeen games on the NFL schedule these days,
that's one extra game for Caleb Williams to try and

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become the first Bears quarterback ever to throw for four
thousand yards in a season. He needs two to seventy
in the finale to get up to four thousand.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
Yards the season.

Speaker 4 (01:16:41):
And as mentioned, with the Disney Company as the favored
partner of the NFL, they get two incredible matchups on Saturday,
and then scraps for the rest of the networks on Sunday.
Forty nine Ers will be the top seed if they
win their finale Saturday night against the current number one Seattle.
That is not only for the one seed in the

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nf SED, but for the NFC West title. The Rams,
by the way, who are still probably kicking themselves the
way they lost that recent classic at Seattle. The Rams
can move up to the five seed by winning tomorrow
and then their finale against two lesser teams. Or there's
another SI scenario where they win their finale and the

(01:17:22):
Niners lose and the Rams get to move up. If
they move up to five, it could be Rams at
Carolina again in the playoffs Rams just lost a close
one at Carolina recently, or Rams at the three seed Philadelphia.
Remember the Rams had two blocked field goals in the
fourth quarter to lose at Philadelphia early season. So we're
seeing more offense from San Francisco, which is entertaining but

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usually not a characteristic of a team that's going far
in the playoffs in the first half because and I
mean that, because they're allowing just as many points in
the first half tonight, twenty eight points for San Francisco.
They scored twenty four and twenty four again in the
two halves of the previous game, so that's three straight

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halves to do that kind of scoring, which hasn't been
seen in the last decade, not since the Tom Brady Patriots.
In fact, to total forty two points at least in
back to back games in San Francisco's long history had
only happened twice before nineteen ninety three and nineteen eighty three.
The Buffalo Bills lost a crusher in the rain today,
Down thirteen to nothing to the Eagles at halftime thirteen

(01:18:27):
to twelve the final, the Bills missed a two point
pass at the end. Buffalo had an extra point kick
blocked with just over five minutes to go. The Philly
defense with five sacks last weekend, Philadelphia clinch back to
back division titles in its NFC East. Here, the Bills
had been six and one at home but lost today,
And remember they're getting a new home. The new stadium's

(01:18:48):
being built next door for next year. Josh Allen won
fumble today in the last five minutes or so. He
did have those two one yard touchdown runs to make
it close, but the Eagles offense was no great shakes.
Ten drives, eleven first downs, only one hundred ninety yards
of offense, and that was good enough to win a
total of thirteen punts in this game, and the Eagles

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have won three straight. I saw a stat that the
Bills streak of winning the AFC East at five years
in a row has ended, and that they're the first
team in the history of the league to win at
least five straight division titles but not make the Super
Bowl at all during that string. This year's AFC East
crown goes to New England, a forty two to ten
winner at the Jets. Drake May five touchdown passes, four

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in the first half. For the game, he was nineteen
of twenty one two hundred and fifty six yards, so
the Patriots are still undefeated on the road eight to
to oh Stefan Diggs had six catches one hundred one
yards and a score. Treveon Henderson did play after the
concussion last week. Nineteen carries eighty two yards on red
zone tds. New England was five for five, so the

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Jets have just four takeaways all season and still no
interceptions for the entire season. The Jets are a minus
nineteen in turnover margin.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
Overall, Jets are scoring there the worst in the NFL
history in scoring the differential scoring differential.

Speaker 4 (01:20:16):
Well, wait a minute, the Raiders this year have been
outscored by two hundred points.

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
Oh oh, I guess not.

Speaker 4 (01:20:22):
And they faced the Giants who had been outscored by
about one hundred points, which was worse in the NFC.
But to say how the Raiders have been doing doubly
worse than the Giants in that so bad?

Speaker 3 (01:20:34):
I would take it though, one seventy six for the Jets.
Aren't he the worst in the history of the NFL?
You say the Raiders won ninety three?

Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
I've been worse December point differential in history was the
Jets this year?

Speaker 3 (01:20:45):
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Speaker 1 (01:20:58):
Don't listening to Fox Sports Final Hour.

Speaker 3 (01:21:02):
Here we go, let's go there, we let's go. Final
Hour work tomorrow, by the way, Penn, ultimate week of
the NFL.

Speaker 1 (01:21:10):
Yes, I am.

Speaker 3 (01:21:11):
We're doing the same time slot tomorrow night, only we
get an extra hour win for Jason and Mike. Didn't
you just do that show like on Friday or something?

Speaker 2 (01:21:19):
Thursday and Friday filled in with Harmon?

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
So nice? So you've got all the lay of the land.
You've got it all figured out.

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
I'm ready to roll. Yeah. They they just go whatever
they want with the clock. They they break what they want.
They don't they don't follow anything.

Speaker 1 (01:21:33):
Are you serious?

Speaker 2 (01:21:34):
Yeah? Pretty much?

Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
How do you get away with that?

Speaker 4 (01:21:37):
This is all?

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
Yeah, there are.

Speaker 2 (01:21:39):
Rules, this isn't nom are rules for crying out loud.

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
So they don't even hit the top of the hour.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
Oh they hit the top of the hour. That's so
I think they hit Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:21:49):
Well, oh that's right. Harmon was in So you were
riding shotgun with Mike Carmen.

Speaker 2 (01:21:54):
I have to let Harmon drive. I mean, how're you
gonna learn how to drive if I don't let them
do it? Now?

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
Come on, fair point? Yeah, I understand, appreciate you allowing
me that opportunity.

Speaker 3 (01:22:02):
Now for them, Hey, couple of quick tweets to get
to then after week seventeen, we've learned and we know
this A.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
Couple of things that caught my eye.

Speaker 3 (01:22:13):
Jason is on fire tonight, he writes, I know this
after week seventeen. Pete Carroll is one and done as
the Raiders coach, and Dan Campbell will replace him.

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
In my perfect world.

Speaker 2 (01:22:22):
Oh I don't love that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
Uh yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (01:22:24):
Don't think Campbell's going anywhere unfortunately in my mind. But yeah,
Pete Carroll's one and done. You think Aaron Glenn's gonna
be one and done? I'm starting to question that more
and more in New York.

Speaker 2 (01:22:36):
At first I said yes, then I said no. I'm
starting to think yes again, So I've kind of gone
back on that. When I do believe that Pete Carroll
is gonna be one and done and they're gonna have
to go in a different direction, just rebuild that franchise,
get their quarterback, get their coach, and start from the
ground up again.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
Brendan Branks up a really good point.

Speaker 3 (01:22:54):
The Raiders better have a good plan on how to
improve the quality of their franchise, because if they don't,
they will go bank from signing countless head coaches to
multi year contracts. Then letting them go after a bad season.
That'll be within ten years. That's quite possible with the
way things are going.

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
Can you trade the number one pick and still get
your quarterback that you want in in Dante Moore or no,
that's not gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (01:23:21):
Maybe, I mean, I don't. I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:23:25):
I'm not as negative on the overall Raiders picture as
some are. Now that sounds weird for a team that's
gonna finish two and fifteen this season, But then again,
I I don't really have this dying need to have
Mendoza like some do, like, oh it's Mendoz are a

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bus I think Dante More could be that guy. I
think Ty Simpson could be that guy. And I do
think they need some help on the offensive line. So
if you if you are sitting at number one and
neither one of those guys tickle your fancy, yeah, I
mean why not.

Speaker 1 (01:23:59):
But I have a feeling they're going to fall for
one of them.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
You know, when you say that the Raiders are not
that far off? Who who are like the worst franchises
in the last twenty years, It's got to be what
the Raiders have to be up there?

Speaker 1 (01:24:13):
Yeah? Oh yeah, they're bad.

Speaker 2 (01:24:15):
They're bad the brown So the Cowboys the Browns.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
Yeah, I guess the Cowboys would be a candidate. Though.

Speaker 3 (01:24:24):
It's hard because you know, the Raiders just missed the playoffs.
They might be the worst franchise in the NFL period
of the last decade.

Speaker 1 (01:24:32):
There might not be any conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:24:34):
Yeah, I mean, it's not like your Dolphins are winning
any awards right now.

Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
I mean, I think they're like, Dolphins have to be there.

Speaker 3 (01:24:44):
The Jacksonville Jaguars have turned it around this year, but
I mean, they hadn't really been much in the last
eight years since they had that run with Blake Bortles
in twenty seventeen. No, I'm sorry, but the Saints kind
of suck. I mean, I know that everyone's losing their
mind right now.

Speaker 1 (01:24:57):
Because offensive Rookie of the Year all.

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
The same stats as Spencer Rattler. But I I am
just I don't know. It's an Arizona would they be
in that conversation. They've had a but they had we
got to go back aways.

Speaker 1 (01:25:14):
For the Super Bowl Warner run. Yeah, yeah, but that
was Titans are good. Yeah, but but remember too, they
were fairly consistent in the playoffs. Like that period. Yeah,
that that, I think you might be right.

Speaker 3 (01:25:28):
So if you're talking just in general, Arnie, if you're
looking for the five worst over the last ten.

Speaker 2 (01:25:32):
Years, you just hit them all.

Speaker 3 (01:25:34):
Yeah, Raiders, Browns, I think, Breeze right with the Titans
or in that mix. I think Arizona's got to be
in that mix, even though they made the playoffs are.

Speaker 1 (01:25:41):
The last couple of years. Yeah, gosh, it's just weird.

Speaker 3 (01:25:45):
It's weird because so many teams that you would have
in that conversation, maybe with the way things have gone
over five or six years, Right, the Bears would be
that conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:25:54):
But they're eleven and five.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
The Jets are worse than the Raiders, aren't they.

Speaker 3 (01:26:00):
Well, I mean, I'm not gonna listen. I'm not here.
I'm not here to have a fight over who's the
worst on the show tonight. Okays on that one.

Speaker 2 (01:26:08):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (01:26:09):
But have the Jets had the number one overall pick.
I mean every chance they've had to have it, they
end up screwing it up and winning a game or two.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
So the Giants had the chance last year to have
the number one pick, and they beat the Colts, I believe,
and lost it in week seventeen, and now they lose
to the Raiders, and they could have had the number
one pick and they beat the Raiders.

Speaker 1 (01:26:31):
I think it would be the Jets, though.

Speaker 3 (01:26:32):
Do you know the last time the Jets made the playoffs,
It was twenty ten, they went to the AFC Championship Game.
They missed the playoffs every single year since, and that
that includes a two and fourteen season in there in
twenty twenty. So I think the Jets might have that
crown over the Raiders right now. I think I'll gladly

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let them have it. Paul is on fire right now. Okay,
you might imagine as a Bills fan checking on the
show tonight. He writes, everyone is blaming Josh Allen for
that miss, but I think he was shocked and one
of his old slow ass receivers was actually open.

Speaker 1 (01:27:12):
He didn't know how to react.

Speaker 3 (01:27:14):
And Sean McDermott is such a great American success story.

Speaker 1 (01:27:18):
He absolutely sucks.

Speaker 3 (01:27:19):
At his job, but has made millions of dollars doing it.
God bless America. All Right, Bill's fans taking this one
tonight pretty well.

Speaker 2 (01:27:28):
It seems I was shocked that he missed them so badly.
Because he was so wide open, and you just put
a little air into the thing and let the receiver
maybe run under it or throw it to the throw
it to his body and let him just go ahead
and corral it in. I'm shocked at that happened.

Speaker 1 (01:27:42):
I am.

Speaker 3 (01:27:44):
I was really surprised by how bad of a miss
I thought that he was when you first saw.

Speaker 1 (01:27:49):
It was so bad. It's like was there pressure? There
was there something. They watched the replay. Nuh. I thought
he was hurt too. I thought, now he got hurt.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
If you and I were watching the game, I paused
the TV after the touch out and said, Chris, are
they going for one or two? What would you have
said at that time?

Speaker 1 (01:28:03):
I would say they're going for one?

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
Yeah, why not?

Speaker 3 (01:28:08):
Even though you can't really trust a kicker that just
missed an extra point, but their defense had shut down Philadelphia.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
So that's what I'm thinking, easily.

Speaker 3 (01:28:21):
Did you see the stat that Robert Mays tweeted earlier tonight?
It said, according to True Media Sports, there have been
ten games this year where a team had fewer than
five passing yards and a.

Speaker 1 (01:28:34):
Half, which seems crazy for me.

Speaker 3 (01:28:36):
All right, so there are ten games this year where
a team had fewer than five passing yards and a half.
The Eagles, including today, have had three of them, and
they've won all three of those games where they've had
fewer than five yards.

Speaker 1 (01:28:51):
Passing and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:28:52):
I saw stat similar to that where they said three
teams have won and completed zero passes in the second half,
and two of them were the Eagles. I think I
saw that somewhere.

Speaker 3 (01:29:05):
So what do you make then of Philadelphia? The great
win defense seems to be elite. Vic Fangio has him cooking.
But are you ready to hitch your wagons in them
as being a team that could get back to the
super Bowl in the NFC.

Speaker 2 (01:29:18):
Well with it being so wide open? And yeah, I'm
gonna say yes, because when you have a good defense
and a strong running game and they have a strug
I think they have a strong running game. I think
they have a strong running game, then you know you
could do damage in the NFL playoffs. You know, we
have to see how it works out and other matchups
are gonna be though. That's the big thing right now.

Speaker 3 (01:29:40):
Two other quick tweets and then we'll get to what
we learned after Week seventeen. This is from Jimmy Jimmy Wrights.
The Big Three from Jimmy v Well.

Speaker 1 (01:29:48):
I like this.

Speaker 3 (01:29:49):
He's giving his tweet its own bit, He's giving it
its own title, Well.

Speaker 2 (01:29:53):
Done job, look at you.

Speaker 3 (01:29:55):
Number One Sean McDermott is on his way out if
the Bills go one done. Number two Dk Metcalf's selfish
attitude cost him and the Steelers of victory today. And
three Derrick Henry is an all time running back talent
and finally needs.

Speaker 1 (01:30:11):
To be given his credit. You think McDermott could be
done if the Bills don't advance.

Speaker 2 (01:30:16):
In the playoffs, No zero chance of that appening. I
don't see that at all. I know Bill's fans are
a little, you know, touchy right now, but no, I
don't see that going down.

Speaker 3 (01:30:25):
And then one more here from Joe Judges Burner, who
writes the Chemistry Tutor is gonna show us what he's
been cooking up in the lab all those years when
he has a real quarterback. Arnie's Dolphins are trading for
Lamar Jackson this offseason.

Speaker 2 (01:30:41):
That I promise you, ooh a promise. I don't want
Lamar Jackson to be honest.

Speaker 1 (01:30:48):
Wait till the one eighty happens if they do get
Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 3 (01:30:52):
Gonna little change in all heart and being on MVP MVP.

Speaker 1 (01:31:00):
Oh yeah, wait hey, what do you think of that?
What do you make of this tweet from mister nobody
who says more of the Bills games? Guys? That was
truly a Christmas gift to Philly.

Speaker 3 (01:31:08):
TD came on a fumble, stupid penalties, no score after
starting at the forty on one possession, terrible special teams
allowing the block, terrible decision.

Speaker 1 (01:31:17):
To go for two at the end. No merry Christmas Eagles.

Speaker 2 (01:31:20):
Yeah. I don't think it was a bad decision to
go for two though, Like you said, go for one
because you're at home, right, isn't that the rule of thumb.
You're at home, you go for one. If you're on
the road, you go for two. Also, I agree with you.
You have to see all your defense is playing. The
defenses were both defenses were playing well. So you say, okay,
we're gonna go ahead and tie it up, and we'll
go ahead and hope our defense stops them and we

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get the ball back or something to that effect.

Speaker 3 (01:31:45):
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Fox Sports Radio on YouTube and subscribe. All right, stinking genius,
let's hit this after week seventeen.

Speaker 1 (01:32:12):
I know this. Where do you want to start?

Speaker 2 (01:32:13):
After week seventeen?

Speaker 1 (01:32:14):
I know this?

Speaker 2 (01:32:14):
Or should I say with only one week left in
the regular season? I know this because it sounds a
little bit different. It sounds better than when I put
it like that, because it's not been a great season.
It really has. I'm not just talking about my Dolphins.
Not good wildcard races going on out there, a lot
of quarterbacks and seems that have gotten heard. We've seen
some backups come in the do a pretty good job.

(01:32:38):
We just didn't have great games on Christmas.

Speaker 1 (01:32:42):
Overall.

Speaker 2 (01:32:42):
It's just, you know, there's been like three or four
very disappointing teams in the NFL this year. I'd probably
give it like a C plus overall, because there's been
a lot better seasons than this, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:32:54):
I know this after Week seventeen. Yes, there's always gonna
be better seasons, aren't you we If the Dolphins were
that's my favorite part of all this, when you can
plain about football. If the Dolphins won today like the
Bengals did over Arizona, you'd be talking about how great
the day was, what a great day for the NFL.

Speaker 1 (01:33:11):
The Dolphins w And I would be saying the same thing.

Speaker 3 (01:33:13):
If the Raiders did, right, but they're not in the playoffs,
they're not in the mix, you would you would be different,
and you know you would.

Speaker 1 (01:33:20):
I would.

Speaker 3 (01:33:21):
I would say this, I am not buying deep playoff
runs from Philly. But let me let me restate that
I'm not buying a deep playoff run from Philly right now.
But like you said, if that running game can get
on track the slightest, you know, if they can get

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something cooking with Saquon now, you're not gonna get them
rushing for two thousand yards again magically in the last
two games in the season. They have offensive line issues,
But I mean, could it be as simple as saying
that your mind could be flipped if Philly can get
its running game close to the level that it was
last year.

Speaker 2 (01:34:00):
Yeah, absolutely, especially for now.

Speaker 1 (01:34:02):
I'm not buying it. Man.

Speaker 2 (01:34:04):
You know who they played in the If it stood
up like right now, they'd play the Rams in the
first round.

Speaker 1 (01:34:09):
That'd be fun.

Speaker 3 (01:34:09):
That was the first round, second round matchup last year
in the playoffs too.

Speaker 1 (01:34:14):
I'm still big on the Rams.

Speaker 3 (01:34:17):
I mean, the Rams had their tough loss to Seattle
and everyone suddenly started.

Speaker 1 (01:34:22):
Bailing on them. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:34:23):
I'm still pretty bullish on the Rams. I think they
could be a problem.

Speaker 2 (01:34:27):
You know, it would be the first round matchup would
be Chicago and Green Bay.

Speaker 1 (01:34:32):
In Chicago healthy? Is Green Bay healthy? Well?

Speaker 2 (01:34:35):
I figured they'd be healthy. But it's on the playoffs
roll the.

Speaker 3 (01:34:37):
Round well, I mean that's next week. I mean that's
in two weeks when that game would be taking.

Speaker 1 (01:34:41):
Place, right, Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:34:42):
Yeah, And to be Carolina and San Francisco in Carolina.

Speaker 3 (01:34:47):
But again, San Francisco has a chance to win the
one seed. So that would be Seattle in Carolina or
Tampa because Tampa can get in with a win.

Speaker 2 (01:34:56):
Too, correct? Correct?

Speaker 1 (01:34:57):
All right? Where you want to go next?

Speaker 2 (01:35:00):
With one week left in the regular season. It's not
so much better than having after seventeen weeks of the
regular season. Boy, it's been a long one. But with
one week left, I do want to say this, I
think these Saturday games are taking away a lot of
enjoyment on the Sundays, especially since there was only two
afternoon games this Sunday, and one was a complete dog.

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So if you only had one choice, I've never seen
it where it's come down the one choice for an
afternoon game. So I'm starting to dread all this good
Saturday action being taken away from Sunday and leaving us
with not much on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (01:35:39):
Chris one more, with one week to go in the
regular season.

Speaker 1 (01:35:43):
I do know this.

Speaker 3 (01:35:46):
Every single year there's that team that goes from worse
to first, right, Yeah, We've talked about this quite a
bit every single year, and we we have it again
potentially this year with the maybe Chicago Bears. He was
the second, the Broncos.

Speaker 2 (01:35:59):
San Francisco.

Speaker 1 (01:36:00):
Oh that's right. San Francisco was in last place last year.

Speaker 3 (01:36:03):
But I'm I'm telling you right now, both of the
teams I had a three because I thought Denver had
gone from worse to first last year, but I forgot
the Raiders with that division. I think all three teams
that went from worse to first are and you have
a chance to make a playoff runt. What the Bears
lack in defense, I think you saw tonight on the
road in San Francisco. Then go score points they can

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they can get. Caleb Williams has evolved. San Francisco is
as scary as any team.

Speaker 1 (01:36:32):
Fred. Yeah. Yeah. And then well not just that, I.

Speaker 3 (01:36:35):
Mean, well they almost lost at home tonight to the
Chicago Bears. I think the bigger thing to me was
a guy who was all over the pregame show and
all over the game broadcast and was doing whatever the
Niners do before the game, blowing a horner or something
was Fred Warner. And if they get Fred Warner back,
that changes that defense completely. So and like I said

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with Denver, I mean I think I think three those
three teams right there are teams that I look at
and listen, Bears and Niners got to get their defense
figured out. Fred Warner getting back left that quite a bit.
But the Broncos are the kind of team that play
ugly football. They protect the football if they don't turn
the football over with that defense. Dude, they got a
chance to play late into the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
Let me ask you a question. More likely to be
upset Denver and the Patriots or Seattle or the Bears because.

Speaker 3 (01:37:26):
The top couple seats, I would I think that I'd
have to kind of contradict myself a little bit because
they Yeah, I would want to say Denver and New
England just because of the you know, perceived I would
kind of an experienced for both teams being there. But then,
but Donold's been here in these situations. I learned what

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it was like to be in the playoffs last year,
and I think McDonald's I think Mike McDonald's a hell
of a head football coach. So, but then I don't
necessarily know with Chicago can that defense be trusted?

Speaker 1 (01:37:59):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:38:00):
So, I mean, when push comes to shove, is Dennis
Allen getna hit the right butts? Which, by the way,
Dennis Allen is a curse word around Breeze, so be
careful how often you say it for the former Saints coach.
All Right, anything else you want to add, you want
to get.

Speaker 2 (01:38:12):
A break and hit some of these tweets. I'm ready
to get to the tweets.

Speaker 3 (01:38:15):
I'm ready to roll, all right, Arnie's picks are coming
up right around the corner. It's aren't even playing on
a Fox Football Sunday. We're getting your reaction tweek seventeen
next right here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 5 (01:38:24):
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Speaker 3 (01:38:36):
You think they could just rerack the first three hours
of this show tomorrow night. I mean me a lot
of the same stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:38:42):
Right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:38:43):
I was just thinking, what are we going to talk
about tomorrow? I guess we'll start with the college football
playoffs since it's Wednesday and Thursday.

Speaker 3 (01:38:51):
I guess it is Wednesday, and oh my gosh, it's
this week, baby, right you? I asked Todd this. I
haven't asked you yet. I know your picks are coming up,
but are you thinking any potential upsets?

Speaker 2 (01:39:04):
I may have an upset, but I want to tell you,
I really think that they're trying to ban me from
the contest because I did my picks. It shows I
did my picks. I sent an email to the higher
ups like, okay, now, you could put me in the
host group, and they just won't do it. And I've
sent two or three emails.

Speaker 3 (01:39:23):
Now do they understand that this is like the most
important thing in your life?

Speaker 1 (01:39:27):
It is?

Speaker 2 (01:39:28):
And I think they don't like me to be in
the group because a lot of the other hosts complain
about me because I have an unfair advantage usually and
I know more football than everybody else.

Speaker 1 (01:39:39):
How many of these have you won?

Speaker 2 (01:39:42):
Pretty much? I went all the time, don't I No, No,
I don't win all the time, close to it. No,
a lot of times, Arnie. I've won the last two
my fair share. I think I.

Speaker 3 (01:39:54):
Don't think you've won any during our time here of
of the basketball, and this is the first time we've
done football. I will say I went with a different approach.
I just swung for that. I picked all the teams
that I don't think anyone else is picking.

Speaker 2 (01:40:06):
Oh yeah, I picked Alabama because I don't think I
picked Alabama. Also, yeah, I think.

Speaker 1 (01:40:12):
I picked them to win it all. I don't know
if you went that far with you.

Speaker 2 (01:40:14):
No, No, I picked them against I think Ohio Sday is
that I can't. I don't have the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:40:21):
See how cow can we count on your on your
submission If you don't even know who you picked, Darnie,
this is part of the problem.

Speaker 1 (01:40:26):
You got to back up your picks.

Speaker 3 (01:40:28):
Wow, I forgot who I even picked, But I will
say we'll have complete previews of that coming up tomorrow night.
In fact, I reached out Ryan Berschinger's gonna be on
Third Mic with us tomorrow night producing the show, and
I reached out to see if we can't get Ryan
Foller on help us out in previewing that Alabima matchup
against Indiana, our buddy in Tuscaloosa.

Speaker 1 (01:40:47):
All right, you want to hit some of these tweets?

Speaker 3 (01:40:49):
Yeah, before we get to the saga's final update at
Stinking Genius One, I'm at Plank Show. Everyone go follow
us at Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (01:40:57):
All right, let's hit a couple of these.

Speaker 3 (01:41:00):
If Pete Carroll doesn't resign or walk away, he was
only in it for the money, Mark Davis should then
make him come back for another two win season. Either way,
Carol has been eliminated from Hall of Fame consideration.

Speaker 2 (01:41:16):
First of all, he's not gonna walk away. He already
said that he wants to be part of the rebuild
or the or the turnaround. How much are they paying him, Chris,
do you know off the top of your head, because
it can't be all that much. It must be getting
him on a bargain deal. I don't think they're gonna fire,
but I think he should be fired. I think somehow
the Raiders are gonna give him one more year and
I'm zeevie get turn it around.

Speaker 1 (01:41:37):
Fifteen million dollars a year.

Speaker 2 (01:41:39):
Oh geez, gosh.

Speaker 3 (01:41:41):
Yeah, a three year deal with the Raiders. Fifteen mil.

Speaker 2 (01:41:45):
I got to bring him back another year. I can't
pay him thirty million and on, you know, and not
do anything.

Speaker 3 (01:41:52):
I have a very very bad take right now. I
think you got to blow out the whole staff man.
I think you got to get him all out of there.
It's been a mess fortunately Vegas.

Speaker 2 (01:42:01):
We can't take it well.

Speaker 3 (01:42:03):
Somebody, I don't know if it was Jason Cole, but
one of our NFL guys when I was driving around
on my way here at Illinois this week and actually
said he'd heard that Pete Carroll is miserable and like,
I'd be miserable winning two games too, but like living
in Vegas, and he doesn't like living in Vegas, and
I don't know if his if his wife and the

(01:42:23):
whole FAM's there with him or what, but they well,
his whole family is there because he hired both of
his sons to coach on his coaching staff with him.

Speaker 1 (01:42:30):
But the way they made it sound.

Speaker 3 (01:42:32):
Was that he wasn't very happy in Vegas, so he
might want to just go ahead and walk away anyway,
which I'd be fine with, be fine with.

Speaker 2 (01:42:38):
For thirty mother, what are you doing in Illinois?

Speaker 1 (01:42:41):
That's where my family lives.

Speaker 2 (01:42:42):
Oh yeah, so you went up there to Illinois to
go ahead and kick it for the holidays.

Speaker 1 (01:42:46):
Well, I listen.

Speaker 3 (01:42:49):
I don't know if she can hear me through these
walls or not, but my mom did kind of a
little guilt trip on. Everybody is Chicago or no, no, no,
Illinois and Saint.

Speaker 1 (01:42:59):
Louis are right next to each other.

Speaker 2 (01:43:01):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:43:01):
Yeah, So for those of you that aren't geography majors,
which I wasn't, but we live on what I call
the right side of the river, and I'm literally twenty
minutes from Saint Louis. Like we grew up. We grew
up just outside of Saint Louis. See, I told you
bri he never listens. I told this whole thing an
hour one of the shows.

Speaker 2 (01:43:17):
No, you didn't say it exactly. You said you said
some town I never heard of, And I'm like, where
the hell is that?

Speaker 1 (01:43:24):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:43:24):
We've done the show together for eleven years, maybe twelve,
and I've been home in Woodrow, Illinois many times, and
we've talked about this before.

Speaker 1 (01:43:32):
But listen, this doesn't involve you, so you're not gonna
remember it.

Speaker 3 (01:43:36):
And I'm fine with that. I've learned to accept that.
Vincent writes after tonight's game, Here's what I know. The
NFC will be represented by either the Niners, Bear Seahawks
are rams.

Speaker 1 (01:43:47):
I don't wait to narrow it down, Vincent.

Speaker 3 (01:43:50):
I don't think the AFC has a chance in the
Super Bowl this year.

Speaker 2 (01:43:57):
Is there a AFC NFC line right now? I'm wondering.

Speaker 1 (01:44:01):
I don't know. Oh, I'm sure there is.

Speaker 3 (01:44:02):
You You're in a state Connecticut legal wagering right right?

Speaker 2 (01:44:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:44:06):
It is, is uh.

Speaker 3 (01:44:09):
Wagering sports betting legal in California, Bree, Can you guys
pull up the app?

Speaker 1 (01:44:14):
Okay, it's not. It's not in Oklahoma.

Speaker 3 (01:44:17):
It is where I am in Illinois, and it is
in Missouri, it is every single commercial on TV, it
is Arnie, I do I do you experience this? In
Connecticut and up in Vermont, the football game today is
Draft Kings followed by.

Speaker 1 (01:44:32):
FanDuel yes, followed by bet followed by something else. I
mean it is. I'm scrolling on Twitter.

Speaker 3 (01:44:37):
Every single scroll is hey, bet bet twenty dollars to
win three hundred.

Speaker 1 (01:44:42):
I mean it is everywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:44:44):
So with that kind of marketing money, I would assume
that we're just eventually going to have it legalized in
every state, right.

Speaker 2 (01:44:50):
I would think so eventually. It seems that way. How
many do we have it right now? It's it's got
to be close to what seventy soh yeah, I think
it's a you know, but I can't been on Connecticut
games out here. So they take that off the board.

Speaker 3 (01:45:06):
And then one more here before we get the Sager's
final update. Uh, mister, nobody who's been on fire. The
Pittsburgh situation is no shock. Mediocre Mike coming up small
against a bad team is nothing new. I wish I
could care about Tampa and Carolina, but it's hard to
when the Bucks have needing life alert worse than missus

(01:45:28):
Fletcher because they've fallen and they can't get out.

Speaker 2 (01:45:31):
There are some great Pittsburgh Steeler stats. The Steelers are
winless oh four and one in their past five games
versus teams entering eight plus games below five hundred, tying
the longest such streak in NFL histories. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:45:49):
Wait, you might have to say that one again.

Speaker 2 (01:45:51):
Say that if Steelers are winless oh four and one
in their past five games versus teams entering eight plus
games below five hundred, Oh wow, that's insane.

Speaker 3 (01:46:07):
So they're losing to something how many times has been Browns?

Speaker 2 (01:46:11):
In twenty twenty they lost to the Bengals, who were
two ten and one.

Speaker 1 (01:46:15):
Right, they tie.

Speaker 2 (01:46:16):
In twenty twenty one, they tied the Lions who were
zero to eight. In twenty twenty three, they lost to
the Cardinals who were two and ten. In twenty twenty three,
they lost to the Patriots who were two and ten,
and this year they lost to the Browns who were
three and twelve.

Speaker 3 (01:46:34):
Dang man, that's horrible. That maybe mister nobody's onto something mediocre.

Speaker 2 (01:46:39):
Mike, I saw this one. Since the last time the
Steelers won a game in Cleveland without a quarterback named
Roethlisberger was in two thousand and three when who was
under center?

Speaker 1 (01:46:50):
Who hold on? Hold on? Two thousand and three, two
thousand and three, You won't remember Bubby Brister.

Speaker 2 (01:46:58):
No, that Washos that's who. Tommy Maddox.

Speaker 1 (01:47:02):
Oh, UCLA Bruin. Yeah, great, Tommy Bruin.

Speaker 2 (01:47:05):
Great. That's right, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:47:07):
Wells, speaking of great Bruins, I don't know Sager?

Speaker 3 (01:47:10):
Do you claim that Steve the Sager is in the
house one final time tonight? Get it's caught up on
everything going on in the world of sports. Where are
we starting?

Speaker 4 (01:47:17):
Steve did cover UCLA for a decade, which is why
part of my affinity for the Rose Bowl showed up
in this show tonight. It is an incredible venue. By
the way, Tommy Maddox played one of the many exciting
SCUCLA games, the Shootout with Todd Marinovich in ninety forty
five to forty two. You had mentioned Saint Louis, Missouri.

(01:47:39):
Isn't The NASCAR track in Saint Louis not actually in Missouri.

Speaker 1 (01:47:42):
It's in Madison, Illinois.

Speaker 3 (01:47:44):
It's Skateway International Speedway that's close to me.

Speaker 4 (01:47:47):
It is right across the river, not in the state
of Missouri.

Speaker 2 (01:47:50):
I may move out there. I'm thinking about.

Speaker 1 (01:47:52):
It, and I love it.

Speaker 4 (01:47:53):
Another empty threat. As for the Raiders coaching situation, I
have lost out of how many coaches they are paying.
But remember there was a really long term Gruden contract
to deal with at one point bring them back. McDaniels
had a lot of years left on his deal.

Speaker 2 (01:48:11):
Same as many on the back of the Browns quarterback.

Speaker 4 (01:48:14):
Antonio Pierce had said, I'm under contract now, I'm sure
Pete Carroll's not on a one year deal, etc. Et cetera.
We'll get to all the NFC playoff scenarios for next weekend.
The league has released that tonight one of those. For example,
the La Rams officially cannot win the NFC West. There
is no mathematical way. Because Seattle won today, they're six

(01:48:34):
straight victory San Francisco one tonight their sixth straight victory.
It doesn't matter what the Rams do tomorrow night or
next weekend. They cannot win the division, which means the
Rams are opening on the road in a couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:48:47):
You know, we did make a mistake, though, Carolina can
get in with a loss to Tampa on Saturday.

Speaker 4 (01:48:57):
They mentioned a strange Atlanta involved tyebacker.

Speaker 2 (01:49:02):
Yes, Atlanta has to win what tomorrow? Wait, they have
to win tomorrow and they have to win next week. Yeah,
and if they do that and Carolina does lose, Carolina
still wins the divisionally.

Speaker 4 (01:49:16):
On a tiebreaker because the Tampa Bay would be finishing
eight and nine. And by the way, Denver this week
beat Kansas City to dethrone the Chiefs officially and clinch
the AFC West First Division title for Denver in a decade.
Houston clinched a playoff spot yesterday with its win at
the Chargers, and the Texans opened h to three this

(01:49:38):
year and still made the playoffs. Only five teams since
nineteen ninety have opened a season The Cowboys were one
of them and still made the playoffs. I do remember
one of Junior Sales. Chargers teams opened oh to four
and still made the playoffs. Not only are the Bears
a division champion, the Patriots are a division champion. Add
the Pats to your list as a team that was

(01:49:59):
last place last year, that's right, and then becomes a
first place team.

Speaker 2 (01:50:03):
Oh yeah, they were over the Jets.

Speaker 4 (01:50:05):
In fact, it's over the last twenty five years. Most
seasons it's at least one team that finishes last or
tied for last that is the division champion the very
next year. As for what we saw tonight, San Francisco
beat Chicago in a forty two to thirty eight shootout.
Caleb Williams in the loss three hundred and thirty yards

(01:50:27):
passing and two touchdowns. We mentioned last hour how unlikely
it was that the Bears did all these things in
the same game and didn't win. In fact, we have
the updated stat from Associated Press in the entire Super
Bowl era. So the last sixty years of the NFL,
what's the win loss record for a team playoffs included
when you score at least thirty five points and get

(01:50:49):
a defensive touchdown and commit no turnovers in the game.
The answer is those teams were two eighty six and
one until the Bears loss at San Francisco tonight. As
brock Perty had five total touchdowns after a pick six
on the first play, he finished with three hundred three
yards passing Christian McCaffrey one hundred forty yards rushing at

(01:51:10):
a score. So the Bears team that had six victories
this year when trailing in the last two minutes, most
ever could not get the late comeback tonight, and the
Niners win without tight end George Kittle, he was out
with an ankle injury. Without star tackle Trent Williams who
left early with an ankle injury. The Niners Seattle game

(01:51:31):
in the Bay Era is this Saturday night. It will
decide the one seed we do have, as mentioned an
AFC East champ as today now Buffalo lost at home
thirteen to twelve to Philadelphia. Bills missed a two point
pass at the end. New England won is expected at
the Jets forty two to ten. The Patriots are the
only team to be undefeated on the road this season,

(01:51:53):
and so Mike Rabel becomes one of the rare coaches
in history to be undefeated on the road in his
first season with a team. When George Seffert started with
the Niners nineteen eighty nine, he was eight to oh
on the road. As for what I mentioned the NFC scenarios,
let's go over them. As green Bay loss last night,

(01:52:13):
they're locked into the seven seed, the last of the
seven playoff teams in that conference, so they'll have to
open playing at the two seeds. So yes, it could
be Green Bay at Chicago first round in a couple
of weeks. Carolina's eight and eight. They'll be finishing the
season at Tampa Bay. That will be this Saturday to
decide the NFC South. Carolina wins the division and the

(01:52:35):
four seed with a win or a tie. Tampa Bay
clinches the NFC South with a win and Atlanta has
to lose a game. So Tampa Bay has been so
bad the last couple of months they need help. The
Bucks have lost seven of eight Seattle at San Francisco.
Seattle currently holds the one seed, so they will clinch
the one seed and the NFC West ground with a

(01:52:57):
win or a tie this Saturday night. San Francisco wins
the division and the one seed in the NFC with
a victory. Otherwise San Francisco could slip all the way
to five maybe six. Same with Seattle. We know the
Rams will be only either the five or six seed.
They'll get the five seed. They'll move up to that
if they win their last couple of games. Chicago can

(01:53:20):
only be the two or three seed, and they'll be
the two seed with a win over Detroit. They host
the Lions next Sunday in their finale, which leads Philly
as the likely three seed. Philly can only move up
and get the two seed in the NFC with a
win and a Bears loss or tie. In that finale,
Giants were at Las Vegas, two teams that were two

(01:53:41):
and thirteen and had lost nine games in a row each.
The Raiders could get the number one overall draft choice.
Giants won the game thirty four to ten, Seattle and
Miami with victories, Jacksonville won at seventh straight New Orleans
and Cincinnati with wins, and Cleveland beat Pittsburgh thirteen to
so the season finale. The NFL ends its regular season

(01:54:04):
next Sunday night, with the Steelers hosting Baltimore to decide
the AFC North. Pittsburgh could have clinched the division title
today And by the way, Miles Garrett of the Brown
still needs one sack for the new NFL record.

Speaker 2 (01:54:16):
For what I thought he got the half a sac
and he already broke the record. They took back a
half a sack from him or what?

Speaker 4 (01:54:21):
No, there was nothing taken back today.

Speaker 1 (01:54:23):
In fact, he was saying quarterback, he was.

Speaker 4 (01:54:25):
Saying, after today, Ah, they were concentrating so much at me.
They weren't concentrating. Yeah, NBA tonight, Kawhi Leonard scored fifty
five points in the Clippers win over Detroit one twelve
ninety nine. He had fifty five points out of the
one twelve.

Speaker 1 (01:54:41):
Back to you, that's pretty good. Hey, are you with
the Samani di Sega? Are you all?

Speaker 4 (01:54:45):
Yes? I am here?

Speaker 1 (01:54:46):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:54:46):
No, that made the work.

Speaker 4 (01:54:49):
The Rams update as they are at Atlanta, but DeVante
Adams doubtful for La hamstring entry. And keep in mind
what we've talked about before. The Rams own Atlanta first
round draft choice for next year after a trade this
past year. Suntech year for tomorrow. That game in Atlanta.

Speaker 3 (01:55:08):
Crazy, all right, Steve, have a great week when we
come back, Arnie's picks. Yeah, you heard it right, The
stinking genius will have his picks, will have the final
four for the playoffs, and some Monday night football thoughts
as we get said to come back with you tomorrow
night win for Jason and Mike. Stick around one more
segment left here on Fox Sports Radio. I don't forget
Arnie and I will be back with you tomorrow night.

(01:55:29):
Win for Jason and Mike. From nine p to one
a Central Standard time, God's time zone ten to two Eastern.
Uh Di Sega will be with us. Great job tonight
from Steve on the updates. Has always Brie crushed it
producing the show hoo just so with Todd Furman and
Mary Mack is always on the ones and twos.

Speaker 1 (01:55:48):
But we know why you came here tonight. It's not
for the hot takes.

Speaker 3 (01:55:52):
It's not for the reaction and the recap to the
great Sunday Night football game. No, no, no, it's for
Arnie's pick. So take it away, stinking genius. What you
got this week?

Speaker 1 (01:56:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:56:00):
I went four and three on my NFL picks today,
so about five hundred. That's all you really need to
be honest with you, is it. I've been good all year,
so I could have a slightly off week to be
honest with and that's still about five hundred. But Miami
played in Ohio State. Ohio State at nine and that
point favorite and then get up to that magic number

(01:56:23):
of ten total forty two and a half. Gonna go
with Ohio State in this one. Think it's gonna be
a little bit of a higher scoring affair than the
forty two and a half. I have Ohio State winning
the game. Thirty four to seventeen. Just too much of
a class act in this one, better than Miami. Miami
won't be able to keep up. I give him credit
for the win last week or the first round, but

(01:56:44):
give me Ohio State thirty four to seventeen. Oregon Texas
Tech gonna be a shootout, my friend. They have the
over under of fifty two and a half. That's a steal.
I got the over going way over that. Matter of fact,
I got it coming down to a three point game.
You could flip a coin on who you think is
gonna win. I took Oregon forty four, forty one over

(01:57:07):
Texas Tech. That means take the over fifty two. Go
with the alternative line on that one, Chris.

Speaker 3 (01:57:13):
We had it with the alternative line just instead said
forty one.

Speaker 2 (01:57:19):
Right, So in take instead of taking over fifty two,
take over sixty two. Oh I take over seventy two.
You know what I'm saying, Well, let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:57:28):
I want to go that far.

Speaker 2 (01:57:29):
But okay, uh, Indiana Alabama. Look. As much as I
was impressed with Alabama's victory come from mine against Oklahoma,
I kind of agree with Todd that Oklahoma did some
things that just set him right back. In this game,
Indiana is not going to do that, though. I think
it will be closer than people expect and a little
bit of a higher scoring affair. Over under forty seven

(01:57:50):
and a half. Indiana is a seven point favorite. I
took Indiana thirty one twenty three over Alabama, which leads
us to the last game misses Sippi and Georgia. Again
gonna be closer than people expect. Georgia six and a
half point favorite. Don't think it's gonna get up to
the seven over in their fifty six and a half.

(01:58:11):
Once again, I went over. I got Georgia winning thirty
four point thirty one over Mississippi. Now over to the NFL.
I'm gonna go and take Carolina plus the three against Tampa.
Tampa looks so bad now, I just can't jump on
their bandwagon and give me Seattle plus the one and
a half at San Francisco. Can you believe that San

(01:58:34):
Francisco's only a one that point favorite in this one?
I thought I was gonna get more points than that.
And the Sunday night game, give me Pittsburgh plus the
three and a half at home against the Ravens. That's
a crazy line. So there you have my picks, two
of them as your police no longer strictly for entertainment purposes.

Speaker 1 (01:58:54):
Only you didn't the game tomorrow night? Did you mention
the Monday night game and I missed it?

Speaker 2 (01:59:02):
No, I didn't do the Monday night game.

Speaker 3 (01:59:04):
That's tomorrow night tonight, I guess, and demanding on the
time zone. You're in nothing on the Rams and the
Falcons seven point spread, first round pick a spot in
the draft.

Speaker 2 (01:59:15):
Yeah, I think I would probably take the Falcons at
home plus the seven if I was going in that one.

Speaker 3 (01:59:21):
Son, there's my pick of that as it stands right now,
as we're sitting here getting ready for the Ben Mallor Show,
which is coming up next Susday.

Speaker 1 (01:59:29):
Is Brian knowing tonight? Is that right?

Speaker 3 (01:59:30):
I don't know who's in tonight. Oh, look at me,
Look at me. Here's what the lines look like New
Year's Eve. That's the Orange Bowl. That's Miami and Ohio State.
This open at nine and a half, no movement. It's
stayed at nine and a half in favor of Ohio State.
Texas Tech in the Cotton Bowl against Oregon, A pard

(01:59:51):
of me in the Orange I'm getting mad. Cotton bowls
Ohio State, Miami Orange Bowl is Texas Tech Oregon Orange Bowl.
Tech Open is a point and a half favorite. They're
now two and a half point dog.

Speaker 2 (02:00:01):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (02:00:02):
And the over and under which you said take eighty
is fifty two and a half. Alabama Indiana has not moved.
Indiana Open is a seven point favorite. It dipped out
a six and a half, but it's back up to
seven and the over under is right about where it
opened forty seven and a half. And that ole Miss

(02:00:22):
Georgia game that Arnie was just talking about six and
a half the opening number. No movement has stayed with
Georgia as a six and a half point favorite.

Speaker 2 (02:00:30):
By the way, you did have one big movement in
the NFL. Buffalo went from a ten to an eleven
and a half point favorite over the Jets right away.

Speaker 3 (02:00:37):
Well it's those alternate lines they're listening to you. You're
gonna make it like thirty one all of a sudden.
All right, Donie, what do you say we rerack this
thing and do it again tomorrow night. Win for Jason
and Mike. Steve Seger will be with us, and we'll
be able to get you caught up on all the
Monday Night football fund and have a complete, in depth
preview of the college football playoffs.

Speaker 1 (02:00:56):
So hey, you know, see not really going anywhere.

Speaker 3 (02:00:59):
Arnie doesn't have to say they see you, because we're
back in twenty four hours right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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