Dan Beyer and Geoff Schwartz Talk NIL Wild Wild West and Warriors Fatigue

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Grizzlies are up late in the first half on Golden State,
who will have to play the rest of the game
without Draymond Green. It is the day after the NFL Draft,
a three day extravaganta. Jeff and I say to you,
is there any draft hangover? Now that this is in
our rear view mirror? Is there any draft hangover for

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what transpired over the last three days? And really now
kind of gives us a bit of an NFL break
as we head into the We're now in the month
of May. But is there any hangover from what we've
experienced over the last three days in Las Vegas? Uh?
The hangover is hope, right, That's what NFL does better
than anyone else, it's hope. Um. What the NBA does
well as object players for soft fouls in the playoffs.

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I mean, like, come on, if we're gonna if we're
gonna object someone from the playoffs, can we harder foul
than that? I think the NBA, the NBA, the NBA,
the NFL, to me, um does hope better in the league. Right.
You know, if you're an NBA fan and you're watching
the draft, I mean outside of the top twelve players historically,

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but even this year, I mean they're one guy, You're like, man,
we got that guy. We're going to the playoffs next year. No.
But the NFL, Man, you look around the NFL and
there's so many teams right now and fan bases that
feel that they got the guy or they got two
or three guys. And we've seen and even outside a
quarterback right where where Jamaar Chase you know, can can

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make such a difference for a Bengals team, Um, you know,
or you know, or an offensive alignement can can can
make a difference and how the offense functions. And so
to me, um, that's what the NFL draft is a out.
So today it's about well, who drafted well who did not,
but also just the hope, the hope that okay, these
two or three points. I'm a Chiefs fan, right, the
Chiefs did exactly what they had to do, and I
hope the players work out. They needed defensive end, they

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need a wide receiver, they need cornerback, they need safety,
they need a linebacker. Boom boom, boom boom. First five picks.
I'm hopeful to the Chiefs fan that those positions work out.
That to me is what the NFL Draft represents. I
also think over the three day extravaganzas maybe over the
you know, compressed two days as it used to be.

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It allows you time to if you were going crazy
about your first round pick on Thursday, or maybe not
having a first round pick like some teams did. It
Also that allows you to talk yourself into things to
make you believe that, hey, look, this isn't this isn't
that bad. We're only a quarterback away. That's the one
thing that I do like about it that you actually

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have time to be able to almost trick yourself into
thinking that was a great weekend. Minnesota Viking fans may
have to do that. I still don't know why you
trade with division rivals like they did. But still that
that's what I take away from like the three day Draft,
And I think your point in your example of using
Jamaar Chase is perfect for what is transpired. And we

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saw it on Thursday night. We saw it with the
trade of a J Brown to the Philadelphia Eagles from
the Titans, and there was a lot there. Braun didn't
get the contract offer that he wanted from Tennessee then
was able to sign a four year, one hundred million
dollar extension with the Philadelphia Eagles after the trade. But
I find it it's such a when you talk about
the copycat league. When you see the success of Jamaar Chase,

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or you see the season that Cooper Cup put together
with the Rams to meet Jeff that's what triggers all
of these these moves now with certain teams in the NFL,
with the chief saying goodbye to Tyreek Hill, with the
Packers ending up trading Davante Adams because apparently he doesn't
want to stay in Green Bay. But the thing that
is stood out to me, and I've said it on

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this show over the last couple of weeks, is I think,
like the great teams in the NFL are okay with
Lee losing their star wide receiver, and I think that
the teams that are okay and good are saying, like,
look what the Bengals did. We gotta do what the
Bengals did, almost like a knee jerk reaction. That's one
of my takeaways is is maybe certain teams, you know,

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stay the course. And I know it's sudden that you've
pointed out on Twitter as well, but the Jamaar Chase
example was one that just stood out to me of
maybe teams trying to go down this wide receiver route
thinking that that's their way to find gold because one
team had success with it this past season. Well there's
this copycat league, right, and and so I am with
you there, but we're also just seeing to your point

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about the value of that wide receiver. I mean, the
Titians basically said, we're not gonna pay an, We're gonna
draft his replacement. Right. The Chiefs and the Packers both said, now,
Davante Adams wanted out, but you typically can convince guys,
and we didn't. They didn't have to trade him, right,
They they didn't have to do that. He could have
kept him there. Tyreek Hill would have stated if they
paid him more money. But two teams, the Packs and

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Chiefs that do a lot of winning. Guys, there were
a lot of football games they went a lot of
well the Packers unfortunate, don't want a lot of playoff games,
but they all go to the playoffs and they win
a lot of games. Okay, And like they both said,
you know what, we're just not gonna pay the wide
receiver that much money. We'd rather spend our money elsewhere.
We'd rather build the front seven. What you know what
what the Packers are doing right now in the Chiefs,

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like I said, they kind of picked players they fit
a lot of their needs, and they spend money and
you know, a couple of wide receivers and fre agency
and whatnot safety as well. Justin reading and then to
your point, the other teams, the Dolphins that don't want
to don't go to the playoffs. We're off in the Raiders.
We're gonna pay the Cardinals. We're gonna trade far Mark
Keys Brown the Ravens, who we all admit you need
a lot of wide receiver help. We're like, yeah, you know, well,

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we'll take the center and the safety and the defensive
end and the Patriots, who well, I don't know what
the Patriots are even doing in the draft, but nonetheless,
a lot of teams that want, you know what fair,
But I was still give them the benefit of the doubt. Yeah,
like you know, like they get they get a pass
almost times, UM and I UM, I just I think

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it's signaling like those teams that have won a lot
realized like, hey man, they're important to have you. You
kind of have to have a wide receiver in this
day and age, but you want them cost control right
to pay a wide receiver that much money, UM, doesn't
make sense if you have holes along your roster. And
the chief said, look, the Chiefs are the best example
of this, right because they didn't draft well from like

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the back half of the seventeen draft when they got
my homes the eighteen nineteen, so they just have a
lot of deficience on the roster. And they said that says,
look we can pay or you know, get four draft
picks and signed three other guys and they decided to
build depth on their team. And I do think that
that teams were chasing you know, the um what the

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what the Bengals did last year? But a lot of
teams though, that they took wide receivers. I mean, the
Falcons aren't close to being the Bengals, right, and this
year at eight, I mean, they took Dreck Loudon for
the future obviously, and the Jets aren't close to doing that.
They took Garrett Wilson to give Zach Wilson, you know
all the I mean Washington shot your winning right, took Dotson,
like not every team that took a wide receiver, though,

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is close to being like the Bengals, right, and they
probably think they are. I don't think they are, but
it was. It was a quick run of wide receivers
in this draft, um, and I hope teams know what
they're doing. I like when you mentioned the Chiefs and
the Tyreek Kills stuff, it seemed that there wasn't even
a lot of time where they were just like, all right,
it's not gonna happen, let's trade them, let's get what

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we can and moved on where You know that even
the Davante Adams thinking Green Bay lingered for a while,
and and reports say that they were willing to pay
Davante Adams what he wanted. He just didn't want to
be there, but to your point of they didn't have
to trade them, but they ended up doing so. And
I just I look at and the eight the A. G.
Brown trade is actually the one that is so to me,
that is the one that stands out over these three

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days as that the amount of money that he did
end up getting. And then it's how you end up
viewing the team. Like people look at the Titans, they say, oh,
Titans maybe punting on the season, and I think it's
anything but. And if you're the Philadelphia Eagles, I'm looking
at them, Jeff and saying, you know, are the Eagles
kind of like the Dolphins now trying to set themselves

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up for what is talk about copycat NFL, to make
a team, to build a team that is so appealing
for the next quarterback that may want out to be
able to say, like, you know, I want to go
to Philadelphia. We knew they were in on Deshaun Watson.
We knew the Dolphins were in on Deshaun Watson. And
those two scenarios and those two places now, and I've
said that Miami is set up perfectly if Kyler Murray

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really wanted to play hardball with Arizona. Now I got
Philadelphia into the mix, and I think that's also a
part of like the new way of the NFL. I
don't think Philadelphia and Miami are going to be winning,
but to me, it also looks like they're trying to say,
the next disgruntled quarterback or the next quarterback that is
not happy is going to look around the league, and
we're gonna have the ammunition to be able to bring

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them in. Yeah. I would argue that they're also maybe
looking ahead to next year. Um is that? Um is?
You know that that? Hey? You know, next year we
got c J. Stroud, we got Will Levice, we got
Bryce Song. Obviously, I think we're gonna the Bryce song.
You know, convo is gonna be interesting because when people
realize he's like five eleven six ft tall and eighty pounds,

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people are gonna be way off Bryce young Son. You
right now, it's gonna be if you're just kind of
a casual fan of quarterbacks, you're like, oh my god,
you won the Heisman. You know he's at Alabama. He's
gonna be the fourth guy taking in this draft next year.
It was telling you right now. It's just that's just
the way it's gonna be um, but you look at
at some of the other options, right you look at c. J. Stroud,

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at Tyler Van Dyke from Miami, and we'll love us
from Kentucky. I'm sure if someone else pops up, and
maybe it's Bryce Young, but Miami to me and and
Philly have the ambo to move up in the draft
right if they say, hey two is not our guy.
Janalen Hurts is not our guy. And again, the the
cost control of having a quarterback with a rookie contract

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and building your roster around that has been proven so
many years now to be so important to winning early
in a quarterback's career. And teams are loading up right
now to try to get in the Chargers right there,
trying to load up right now to win and really
this year because Herbert will get paid next year, but
they'll have a little bit of cost control in the
first couple of years. I deal. But um, you know,
you're trying to get this all done before they get

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to that long term and they're getting fifty million dollars
a year. So to me, it's not even about for agency,
it's it's about the draft next year. I think they're
thinking about, Hey, we have the AMNA will get ourselves
a top quarterback. He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Dan Buyer. This
is Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. Get Jeff
on Twitter at Jeff Schwartz. You can find me on

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Twitter at Dan Buyer on Fox All Right, Who's draft
did you love? Who Whose draft did you hate? Um? Well,
I always talk like the Chiefs draft, Um, they did
really well. You know, the Giants at the top of
the draft five and seven. Um, I thought I couldn't
have done any better. Um. You know, people will question
their other draft picks and there's definitely, you know, discussion

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about value after that. But I don't know, I'm worried
about more of the top of the draft in my opinion,
and where where team's got guys. Um, And the Giants
got Cavon Tipota, who I think will be the best
pass rouatur and has the best traits of of a
guy that I think will be great. And then Evan
you know, the best offensivelignment at five and seven, like,
they get really well. The Jets basically had four first
round picks, right, they got Breese Hall. Top of the

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second round, they got themselves, you know, uh, lockdown Corner
and Sauce Gardner. Right, they got themselves, um a wide
receiver that most people had. Why why I receive running
Garret Wilson. They got defensive end who people had about
number four right if you look at Walker and Hutchinson
and Katie and then Jermaine Johnson. And they got Breeze Hall,

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one of the better running backs. So, um, they did
I thought. I thought they did a great job. The
Ravens always do a good job, man Like it's it's
interesting how the Chiefs did this, mostly for the trading
up this the one spot. But the Ravens just kind
of sat there, right, they don't panic. They traded back,

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They traded back, and they just get good football players.
This get good football play Kyle Hambleton's um and and
they got Tyler Lindon Baum and they got um Jobbo,
who is was gonna be a first round draft pick,
probably would have been the second or third defensive and
taking third or fourth, I should say, but got hurt
his in his pro day practice. They just get good

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players where they're at. So those to me feel like, um,
you know, people are excited about what the Lions did.
I would agree that getting Ada Hutchinson and agetting um
Uh Jamison Williams pretty good, and I thought the opportunity
to do it again. I don't understand why Minnesota is
doing deals with green Bay and Detroit unless they were

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blow your socks off deals, and neither were. Maybe maybe
the second deal they got was really good compared to
the trade charts. I don't know what's which one of those.
The first one was like man. The second one they
did I saw was very good on the you know,
they used that Jimmy Johnsan trade charts. But if you
if you are allowing green like like there was, there

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was talking it was the Christian Watson pick for green Bay.
There was talk. This is again and we're gonna get into,
by the way, great draft stories that you always hear
after the fact because everything is always positive and what
a great job. The theory with green Bay and wanting
to get Watson was they wanted to trade I believe
up to thirty two and get him on Thursday night,

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and the Vikings said no because they didn't want Watson
to have the fifth year option in green Bay. But
then they would do the draft at do the trade
at thirty four the next day with green band, like, Man,
what a great job that Minnesota is. And I'm thinking
to myself, why would you want you know, unless you
don't love Christian Watson, unless your scouts see something in

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him that but I don't know why you would want
Green Bay to get what they wanted. And that's my
whole point of it with Minnesota. I get it, I
get it, but I think that there's there's a new
way of general managers. Obviously Minnesota has a new general manager,
and I think the way that the game used to
be thought about is not the way that people think

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about it now. And obviously we see with all the trades,
it's certainly something that's you know that there was never
this many trades. But you know, he's like, look, man,
we could get better. I don't care if it's the Packers.
We're gonna get better. We're gonna do we have to
do to get ourselves better and worry about like that,
like the games mean ship. Part of this is not
really what it used to be, and that I think

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is because there's a younger crop of general managers that
just don't kind of care about the old traditional norms
of the way things are done in the past. That
very very well. Maybe but yeah they no, not at all.
No Oushawan, but no, it's running back that was I'm
fine with the running back. I am fine with Kenneth Walker.

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The third. I am absolutely fine with with that pick.
The Vikings traded number thirty four to Green Bay for
two other fifty two other second rounders, so it's fifty
three and fifty nine. That was the trade. So those
numbers work out. But again, if you're Minnesota and helping
Green Bay, I you think it's a thing in the past.

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I just it's tough for me to I think. That's
basically what I think. That's basically the way into the
operates now. There's no like this deep seated hatred of everyone.
It's like, what can we do to be better? If
if just I don't care, if it's if it helps
our arrival. We got ourselves two more draft picks, will
take him. He's Jeff Swards the NFL VT. I'm Dan Buyer.

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This is Fox Sports Sunday hanging out, giving you some
post draft reaction, plus keeping you up to date of
what's happening in the NBA. At the half, gris Lesley
the Warriors sifty five, No Draymond Green for the rest
of this on ejected for a flagrant to that Jeff
Fields should have been a maybe flagrant one at worst.
I actually tend to agree with you on that again.

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dot com. Warriors have made a surge. David Gascon will
be with us at the bottom of the Already give
us the latest of what's happening in Game one between
the Warriors and Grizzlies. We can't tell you this. No.
Draymond Green for the Warriors in the second half. Ejected
in the first half for a questionable flagrant to foul

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on Brandon Clark, who by the way, Brandon Clark laid down,
and if you're driving in your car and you you
weren't able to obviously see the foul, Jeff, you looked
like a chalk outline, like the way that he was laying.
But it was not even close to being something that bad. Anyway,
Warriors are gonna have to navigate the rest of this
bad boy without Draymon. So he people who hit him
in the face. I mean sure, he was trying to

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hit the ball. I mean that's like the least part
of the flagrant. He grabbed his jersey as he went up. Yeah, okay,
flagrant ie Sure, but they tried to hold him up.
He didn't fall in his face on the ground, like
I think it's a flagrant foul. He would have tried
to put his face directly into the hardwood. And then like,
here's the thing about this type of stuff. Okay, here's
here's the problem with with this for the NBA. If

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you go on social media now and the Warriors have
a ton of fouls, I mean, Steph has three, Clay
has three. You've ejected Draymond Green. Everyone thinks your product
is rigged. That's everyone's talking about now, they're not talking
about the game. They're talking about being rigged because the
disparity and the way this game is being called is

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is just the ring the rigged aspect of it though
normally is more popular team gets the favorable calls and
not happening today. Yeah, it's correct. So I think that
the rigged portion of it is they're trying to say, oh,
the NBA is trying to make this a seven game series. Yes, correct,
and I don't believe that. But it's just it's not

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good for your product if we're talking about that. And
I guess I will update us in the score in
a few minutes so we'll get to know more about it.
But like, I just that's my thing. Is Like I
just I think the NBA product at times is kind
of soft. I'm a football guy, though, I mean, but
like I just think it's like I'm like, come on,

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it's a playoffs. Can we be a little bit like
still a little bit tougher, Like, can we let these
guys hit a little bit? I also think you have
to you have to take into account who is playing
in this series. Now, this was late eighties and it's
Piston sixers, then you may be want to set the

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tone of me like, all right, Lambier Barkley, you guys
are not gonna be throwing bows and fists for this series.
We're gonna eject someone now because it's just not gonna happen.
But I think that if you look at these two teams,
like the Warriors are smart enough, Draymond is you know, different,
you know scenario, but he's also you know in all
NBA defensive Wizard vet where you know that maybe some

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of his stuff maybe antics and tricks. I don't think
that there's anybody on Memphis that you've gotta be like,
you know what, we've got to make sure that this
guy doesn't stay out of control. Like that's what a
game one ejection does to me, as it says, all right,
we're not gonna you know, you two teams have gone
at it at the regular season. You guys have had
brawls before, We're not gonna stand for it. Here here
was an opportunity where I think that the referees should

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have just really looked at the teams and said, all right,
are the Warriors really gonna be getting in and playing
dirty and all of that, or is this just a
Draymond thing? And the same thing with with Memphis and
in their response, there's nobody on those teams that you
would say outside of maybe Draymond. And I still think
that he's earned enough, you know, has enough of a
reputation now to not be ejected on that foul. I

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think that the rest did a bad job of just
recognizing what these teams are. It's a good point. And
you know, if you look on Twitter at the just
just search flagrant to bunch NBA players who are saying, like,
what are we doing here right? That that's bad, it's
not good. And I know the NFL gets gets you know,
the fishing is not stret in the NFL um But

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I'm I'm dude, I am strong anti ejection, like the
college targeting rule, throw that to the moon that I
just get rid of that to shoot it right to
the moon. Man objecting a player on for a bang
bang play, come on, get out of here with that.
I just think that less objections, everyone, less ejections, Let
him play, give him free throws, but don't kick him out. Yeah,
like a lot, like like you know in collegeable, Okay,

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fifth year of penalty, great, but throwing a kid out
for a play when sometimes we don't even know the
intention of the play, like get out of here with
that so um, but it looks say fire up the Warriors.
At least for now, we'll see along, you know, Draymond
is so important to what they do. Um, and we'll
we'll see what happens in the last well about eighteen
minutes left here. Yeah, alright, guys, we're shooting nine here

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this first eight. Just stay put. We'll be live after
the ninth. That's all you'd have to do. You can
keep Draymond in the game. But Brandon Clark would just
get nine free throws on that bowl. I think that
that could be uh, that could be a compromise. We
could work with it. It. Yeah, sure, Or you say,
all right, you gotta you gotta take a three from
I was gonna say, you could take a three uncontested

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from the top of the key, and that would be
your you know, your opportunity. Would you rather have the
free throws or would you have rather have like three
uncontested threes on top of you can we can do
a whole thing with this. If we want to eliminate
the ejection. Let's let's get to the news desk with
David Gascon to give us the latest. They don't want
to get into some of this running back stuff. All right,

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what's happening in uh Memphis? David gave one me to
the Warriors at Grizzlies and get a television time out.
But it's in the third corner. You guys alluded to
it earlier with the objection here it is Raymond Green.
I think it's been thrown out. Oh my gosh, Raymond Green,
who just jogged over to the tunnel to get everybody
fired up, and they went back over to the fence.

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Steve Kourage talking with James Williams. Here we go to
Draymond Green has been ejected. But the wind up to
the face, same pack and face to follow through the
jersey and the throat out to the ground. So it
was a it was a pretty hepty combination. And to
Jeff's point earlier about the failure was the initial contact

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from Draymond Green, then the rake across the face and
the pull down with the jersey. I mean that's in
real time. I guess it's probably the reason why they
called it as is um. But don't forget earlier in
the contests, Draymond Green undercut John Morant when he went airborne,
and I don't know if that led to it, not
to say that it did, but it's a reputation call.

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I guess there's no argument agreement again, you know, it's
it is interesting. It is a good point day to
to bring that up, because that could have played something
into it. Again, Like my whole point is, Draymond's maybe
the only guy on this team that would do something
like this. However, because he is Draymond Green, in the
caches that he's built up, doesn't he get a little

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bit of a you know, a longer, you know, get
a little bit more when it comes to all this stuff.
Apparently he thinks So the next volume podcast should be
highly rated. Do you think a guy like Dennis Rodman
would get the same leeway. No, No, But also that
also wouldn't in that era though they wouldn't call this,
so that would be a problem. Yeah. I'm just you know,

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we're fortunate to have a guy like that because there's
not many dudes in the league anymore that have the
ability to get under a team, a coach, or a
city's skin like Draymond Green does and the needs villains.
It does check. I hope that this turns this series
into like The Warriors with villains again. It would be great.

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They need guys who kicked photographers and the nuts. That's
just kidding. That was in Chicago, wasn't it. I thought
it was in Minnesota. I thought there was a blue court.
I just remember that. Just the photographer glasses on and
remember that. I don't know. I hope we can laugh

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about that now. Maybe not. You know, I just spend
it a whole year. If they did that it now, no,
I know. I'm kidding right on social media all over
the place. So guys, um, Golden State had a good
start to the third quarter. It's Memphis seventy one, Golden
State a couple of guys. John Moratz got twenty three
points in this one. On the other side, Steph Curry
has got fifteen, Jordan Pool's got sixteen and twenty three

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minuts worth of action. But again, Draymond Green injected in
this game with a flagrant to in the second quarter.
Earlier today it was all Milwauk. In the second half.
They carved up Boston, winning it one nine. The rip
away home court advantage from the Celtics. Drew Holiday had
twenty five, Jana said twenty four, but also a triple double.
Milwaukee's defense also held Boston guys to thirty three percent

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shooting from the field. Jason Tatum had twenty one but
a six of eight teen from the field in forty
minutes worth of action. They had five guys in double
digit scoring, but nowhere close to enough to compete with
Milwaukee and this one, so Milwaukee effinite series one game
to love, Dan, I mean, Middleton's out, but how confident
do you feel about your defending? I'll say that I

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was very, very pleased today for a variety of reasons,
but one this Milwaukee team has not been great in
game ones for a while. And if you even go
back in their history of last year, remember they were
taking uh the only competitive game in the Heat series
was game one. They lost Game one to Brooklyn. They

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lost Game one to Atlanta, they lost Game one to Phoenix,
or series against the Bulls. I know they lost Game two,
became one was close at the end, So it seems
like they really had a kind of like a feeling
out process, and the feeling out process here took about
a quarter and a half today and and you know,
maybe maybe just maybe just the first half, but I
think that was a very good sign because Boston looked
like the inexperienced team. Why why have they started think,

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I don't know, and and I don't I don't know
if it's just a feeling out sort of thing. But
Trey Young put a forty burger on him last year
in Game one UM against Atlanta in the Eastern Conference Finals,
which honestly was probably the best thing that could have happened.
I know Trey Young got dinged up, but if Trey
Young has forty in one game, he thinks he's gonna
have eighty in the next, you know, the next four

(26:41):
that he plays, so so that helps out. But yeah,
it's just it's it's it's I think it's just like
a feeling out process sort of thing, where then in
the end, if they're like close enough game, maybe they
just feel like they have the horses and the veterans
to now do it. But yeah, it's been a thing
of them. Uh but uh, I mean, you can't complain
when you win an NBA title, but game ones have
been a bit of a bugaboo for Milwaukee. The last

(27:03):
couple of years. So yeah, it's good for them to
get off to the start. Now it's a matter of
Boston trying to turn it around. You don't. This is
Fox Sports, and they thank you very much. David Gascon
will check in with Dave periodically as well, and we'll
also be one of Jeff's lifelines in easiest one too.
Three four coming up next hour. You did not like
the Kenneth Walker picked by the Seahawks in the second round.
Is this a Kenneth Walker the third bias that you

(27:25):
have against him? Or is it all running backs being
drafted early? Um? It just I don't think Seattle needed
that position, Like, I don't think that's a value position
for them with their roster right now. Um, and so
I just like it's just typical. I just feel like
you look at like Seattle, it's like, well, what are
they gonna do. They're gonna draft running back they really

(27:46):
don't need, Like, you don't need, you don't need, you
don't need him? Well, then well they did bring back
Rachad Penny on a one year deal, and for as
great as Penny was in the second half of the year,
he is also injury prone. If you are Pete Carroll
and the Seahawks. You have won in the battle between
you and Russell Wilson. You obviously want to run the
football and play defense, and so why not go out

(28:08):
and get one of the you know, top running backs
in the class or someone that you feel fits your
system and bringing him in. So that so from even
from a Seahawks perspective, I like it. But even overall, Jeff, like,
I think when we just think that teams can go
and get Elijah Mitchell or if the Seahawks case, just
go and get a Chris Carson, put him in there

(28:29):
and then you'll get you know, yards this season, and
I just don't think that that's the case. And and
I went and I it was like, I feel like
there is value in the running back. I think what
we get confused with is the value of the second
contract with the running back, because nobody really wants to
give running backs any you know, long term deal or

(28:50):
a you know, a second contract, but we kind of
forget about their value with their first contract. So I
just went and looked back in one and I just
looking at the leading rushers. And when you're looking at
the leading rushers of the top fifteen guys who led
the NFL in rushing last year. Maybe four or five
of them weren't first or second round picks. But Jonathan

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Taylor was the second round pick, Nick Chubb's second round pick,
Joe Mixing second round, Naji Harris first round, Dalvin Cook's
second round. Then you had Antonio Gibson converted wide receiver.
Zigiel Elliott was seventh first round pick, Elijah Mitchell, who
had just mentioned, one of the outliers, Derrick Henry's second
round pick. Damien Harris was tenth in the NFL. He's
an outlier. Melvin Gordon was a first round pick. Then

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you had Austin Ekeler, another outlier, outlier, Javati Williams second
round pick, Alvin Camaro second round pick, Josh Jacob's first
round pick. Like those guys are, it's not just a
non value position, like if guys are good running backs.
I think that this shows that it's not like you
could just go pick up by anybody off the street
and have a successful running game, like these guys have

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to be good, and that there is something to it.
And I think we sometimes mix giving a running back
a second contract, uh and and consider that the value
of the running back position instead of just trying to
get these guys in the first four or five years
of their career to maximize really what their position is. Well,
I agree with you on on that part of it.
You certainly should never draft a running back in the

(30:16):
first round, never give my second contract. Those two things
absolutely cannot do. But I look at Seattle and I
look at all the issues they have on their team
with the roster, and I just don't think they're adding
a running back here, um really helps them get any
closer to where they kind of want to be. I mean,
maybe doesn't year two or three or four, but right

(30:36):
now it doesn't. Then there's other holes on the team
that they could have been filled. Um. And I will say, look,
I like Charles cross, Um and you you they drafted
a Lucas and they drafted two guys from air raid
offenses in college, two guys that that past protected seven
hundred times a year to go play and run heavy

(30:58):
offenses in the NFL. What are we doing now, Charles
cross I think it's gonna be fine. The air raid
I have a strong bias against air raid. Offensive linemen
come out in college. They do not play on in
the NFL. Don't look at them. It does not pay out.
Right Now we have Andre Dillard with the Eagles, Austin
Jackson with the Niners, I was with with the with
the Dolphins from usc Any of the Washington State guys

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over the years, including Dillard, it just hasn't worked out.
Charles Cross is a little different because he wasn't recruited
to play in that in that offense, right. He was
recruited with Joe moorehead I believe, right in the Mississippi State,
and then just happened to play an offense and he
has elite physical traits like his ability. But it's still
and Settle kind of had to pick Cross in that moment. Anyways,

(31:42):
I'm fine with that pick. But again, like you just
there's there's an importance to being able to match up
your offensive scheme with your offensive linement and vice versa. Right,
And I think they would have looked like Evan Neil
felt to them. That would have been you know, it
was their dream. So but then you get Abe Lucas
from Washington State. It's like you can get other guy
that you watch this film, You're like, yeah, the run

(32:02):
blocking is not there? Why would you take an offensive
alignment for a run scheme that never didn't run four years?
I agree with that, I especially now because that's so
much of what the NFL is is trying to when
you're bringing in guys, whether it be quarterbacks or even
wide receivers, of trying to uh do what they did
well in college and use that early on in their

(32:23):
careers to But it's not it's almost not even that though.
It's like you want to be able to all give
you an example. So, um, you know, the Ravens drafted
that the big old hoss from Minnesota. He's uh, you
know Den He's like six nine, right, Yeah, he's huge,
he can play one offense the NFL. The Ravens like

(32:43):
they drafted the perfect guy. But I mean the Chiefs
took a fifth round offensive a lineman and Darren Kinnard.
He's big, physical, kind of a brute offensive lineman. Um,
and that's the Chief's exact offensive line they want to have.
And I know their coach and that's gonna it's gonna
work out perfectly. It's what they want. The Packers drafted
a player named Zack tom from Wake Force offensivelignement and

(33:06):
think the fourth fifth round, he's like exactly traded like
like boxed R. I'm not saying it's gonna be boxed
R there left tackle, but like it just kind of works.
And I think that other places, not just Seattle. You know,
the Cowboys who have had trouble developing offensive lineman. They
drafted two projects, one in the first round, Tyler Smith
from Tulsa, who I thought was a third round based

(33:28):
off this film, Like, so it has to be that
marriage either way, right. I just think the the NFL
doesn't do that very well, especially with offense alignment. I
do think and I've always felt like if there are
three guys, like this isn't fantasy football where you're like, hey,
if one of the wide receivers falls to me, great,
because I don't know who's going to be healthy or not.
I think it's it's obviously different in the real NFL.

(33:51):
If there was a tackle that you loved, if you
were Seattle, then you maybe should have tried to go
and do something about it. Maybe, you know, maybe you
try to make a deal. If it was Evan neil
Um or Iguan you or if it was if they
felt maybe Charles Cross was their guy, maybe his athleticism,
they was gonna feel a little bit better. But I
think Charles Cross is gonna break that mold for the

(34:12):
reasons I said, Like, I'm not worried about him now.
There might be a transition period just kind of learning
to play the more run balanced offense. But like they
Lucas pick to me, just doesn't match what Setta wants
to do it all he's because his fault. It's not
his fault, but like that just doesn't match. Like what
like the Eagles drafted Andre Dillard and they typically have
like big old like hossive alignment. Right, they have Lane Johnson,

(34:35):
Jason Peters forever and now they have a six nine
Australian playing left tackle, like they have big big guards
Brandon Brooks. Right, the only guy that's nine he is Kelsey.
And they drafted an undersized tackle who didn't run block
terribly well in Washington State, Like he just didn't. You
have to try to match those together. He's Jeff Schwartz.
I'm Dan Buyer. They see his Fox Sports Sunday on

(34:56):
Fox Sports or radio. Get Jeff on Twitter at Jeff
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on Fox Warriors up on the Grizzlies eight nine, eight
seven a minute to go in the third quarter in
their Game one in the Western Conference Semifinals. Coming up next,
we kind of put a bow on the NFL Draft,

(35:17):
and we are going to tell you what we are
thankful for that we won't have to hear for another year.
We'll explain next here on Fox Sports Sunday. Hey, it's
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(35:58):
I'm Dan Buyer. Warriors and Grizzlies and a tight one.
Warriors still up one early in the fourth quarter in
their Game one. Bucks got a victory in Boston in
their Game one of the Eastern semis earlier today. Draft
is a thing of the past, and now, Jeff, we're
gonna have to wait for another year. What what sayings
are you not going to miss for the next three

(36:20):
hundred and sixty two days or whatever? It is stuff
that we get, whether it be on Twitter, whether it
be on TV, whether it be from fans. What drives
you as an eight year NFL that now NFL analysts,
betting analysts, and so much more. What drives you bonkers
when it comes to social media or stuff that we

(36:40):
see in media and here about the NFL draft, it
comes from the coaches in front office saying they got
the best player on their board every time at least
like like the Chiefs. I I again, I'm the Chiefs
fans I pay that more than stuff than other But yeah,
I saw, like I'm talking about any he was like,
you know, he was our highest rated player left on
the board, like for the first round, like you know,

(37:01):
fair enough far like you went up and traded for
the cornerback and he was at the moment, you know,
like he wasn't the highest overall player. He just saw
the value and going to get him. But you know, people,
you know, these fan bases always here from the front officers. Yeah,
this is the highest graded player on our board. You
know it's where we like we got exactly who we
thought we'd get him. It's just it's just it's just
not what about this one? Like, uh, you know Joe

(37:26):
Johnson had a first round grade. Chief's lucky to get
him in the sixth. Like that's another one like where
it's so like, Okay, what tell me what team at
a first round grade on a guy that went into
the sixth round. Well, there was, I mean like last
year there was you know the and a lot of
those are injury related, right, you know, Nakobe Dean right
probably had a first low first round grade UM, and

(37:49):
you know he injury shoulder injury and pushed him down.
We saw last year Tray Smith, the Eagle, the Chief's
right guard, has second round grade that went to the
sixth round because of some blood cloudy concerns that he
had in Tennessee. So I mean, like it happens once
a draft at the most, but then you get to
a point where, like you just can't ignore that the

(38:09):
players is good. I mean when you talked about the
Ravens earlier, right, the drafted the defensive men from Michigan, UM,
and you like he would have been eleven twelve. Overall,
he goes, like, at some point that value you just
have to get the guy right, Like it doesn't even
matter how low they keep dropping, just pick him up
when you can. So yeah, and again, the draft boards, though,

(38:32):
are all media creations, right, because teams aren't sharing draft boards,
like we don't know what they're after. And okay, good example. Okay,
if they had Tyler Smith above Zion Johnson and and
carry on Green but Morezonna Johnson, then you're admitting you
don't know what you're doing. Like admitting that is saying

(38:55):
they're not a single person. I knew that I value
its offensive line. They had Tyler Smith ahead of his
Ian Johnson and then carry on and then kick Kenyan
Green too, he said, right, so who went fift tidy
early the fifteenth to Houston, But like you know, he's
a good football player. That's the equivalent of tell me
you don't know anything about the NFL without telling me
what it's like. But it's like it's like I wouldn't

(39:16):
I wouldn't wouldn't admit that, I would admit that you
evaluated because that's impropertly. Again, everyone has their own evaluation, right.
I mean the Pagest drafted a player that everyone thought
we'll go in the third round. In the first round.
I mean that maybe they had a first round grade
on Cole Strange and no one else did. I don't know,
but we we have to keep that in mind when
it comes to the drafts. At our grades. The media

(39:39):
are different. Now there are mock drafters who talked to
NFL people and they mocked they do the mock draft
based off of that, So you know, you have to
kind of see who those guys are to figure out
where they have people on their board compared to what
other people do. The thing that annoyed me the most,
and I'm not gonna name any names, but one NFL
in sder was praising the Giants because they took Cavon

(39:59):
Thibodeaux before Evan Neil and said they thought that somebody
could trade up for Thibodeau. Yeah, this is all that
we do in fantasy football drafts. Like this isn't like
a new strategy, Like come on, if some guy in
his basement it's thirty two years old and Topeka can
do it, then at NFL GM should do it. N
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(40:40):
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Joel embiid not gonna be around for the Sixers and
games one and two of their series with the Heat
Games three and four. Yeah, could be possible. So much
to get to, not only in the National Football League
in the NBA, but Jeff, we talk about the world
of college sports because n a L is not going

(41:02):
away and lost maybe in some of the draft hype
and excitement that we've gotten with the NBA playoffs. With
the conference semifinals starting today, a big story when it
comes to transfer portal when it comes to n I
L was the news that Pittsburgh wide receiver Jordan Addison,

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who was the bullet nic COF winner in one, was
mulling uh a possible transfer to usc. ESPN, quoted sources
is saying that pattn our Doozy, the head coach at
pitt UH, called Lincoln Riley at USC multiple times. And
obviously USC has been active in the transfer portal with
Caleb Williams coming over once Lincoln Riley left Oklahoma. But

(41:48):
this has been a story along with the Isaiah Long
situation at the University of Miami and their basketball program.
But n i L is at the forefront again, and
I just it is crazy to me, and I don't
know if it's a COVID sort of thing, but we're
what like a year into this July will be a year. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

(42:08):
like this is this is I thought there were gonna
be some things that were happening, and I thought that
there would be some maybe unintended consequences, But I had
no idea that Pandora's box would be open so much
as it is right now when it comes to transferring
in n i L situations. So my day job is
packed to radio. It's Monday through Friday series X seven

(42:31):
three seventy three seven and on the Eastern Feel free
to tune in, everybody, And we talked about n I
L and trans reportal every day, right, it's a huge story.
We've been following it now for a year because you know,
there was talk, of course before July about what might
happen if this gets allowed. And make no mistake about
the person you blame for why this is happening the
way it is isn't double a. They did nothing. They

(42:54):
buried their head in the sand, thought the Supreme Court
would help them out. You know how hard is to
lose nine nothing in this fream court not have one
justice to go the other way. I follow it because
I I just like law things, and it's not I
always a rarity. It's rare. They lost nine to nothing
in the Supreme Court, okay, and they decided that day

(43:16):
we're not gonna put any guard rails in place for
the emerging world of college sports. There's two separate things here, right,
There's n I l name, image and likeness, which traditionally, okay,
is I'm Jeff Schwartz. I go to school Oregon. I
get money, endorsement, sponsorship because I go to school Oregon

(43:39):
a car dealership and Eugene likes me, and I get
X amount of money or have a social media presence
and someone wants to pay me money to advertise something
and just kind of the general things we think athletes do. Okay,
with their with their image. Now the second thing is
is pay for play. Okay, that's what it is. Pay
for play. It wasn't supposed to be allowed. And wake

(44:00):
wink wink wink, no pay for play. But there are
collectives popping up around the country at certain schools, and
collective is basically a booster group. And by the way,
a lot of collectives will just take our money. If
I want to donate to a collective for any school,
I can think I can do that myself. I know
some schools are just making their n il solely based
on contributions from anyone who wants to give money to

(44:23):
the collective. And they're paying the players to come to
school to transfer and there's no guardrails there. Okay, fine,
but there shouldn't be, right, Like, it's a free market.
If someone wants to be paid, if someone wants to
pay you for your services, then be my guest. It's
just it's shocking for people because it's happening so fast

(44:44):
and so loud, right like it went from zero to
one thousand in four months five months, And I called this,
by the way, if you again, you want to was
my radio show go ahead? But I called this with
a transferportal. I said, guys, open tree was gonna lead
U some issues. And exactly what happened has happened. And
and I m all was all for by the way,

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And that's like I told everyone, like, it's just gonna
it's gonna be paid for play. It's gonna happen, and
some programs are ready for it. The South organ was
ready for it. Other programs award and that's why they're
catching up right now. Um, But it wasn't supposed to
happen with like Jordan Addison, right, And this is the
thing that anything that shocks people and my radio coast

(45:27):
was we talked about a lot, like you know, we
thought this would only happen transfer portal stuff, which has
happened for like, you know, the normal got the backup guy, right,
the one who got hurt. Coaches don't like anymore. But
not like the best players on each team are leaving.
And George Addison won the Blittic Cough last year's nation's
best wide receiver and he's you know, he lost his quarterback,

(45:47):
his o c and he wants to make more money
at USC or elsewhere, and he's gonna leave. That's not
what this was supposed to be. But it was always
gonna end up being this because there's no guard rails
put in place. But but did The question is is like,
what are the guard was supposed to be? Because I
shouldn't be allowed to tell you as a radio host,
would you're allowed to make for your name? You like this?

(46:08):
Why should we tell college kids what they should make?
The issue is to pay for plaything, which again is
hidden by the collective, and you can, I guess, make
a case to cap that, but again, the players aren't
in the union, so you really you can't really cap that.
Here's what's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. I'm telling you, well,
here can I can I just just say something to that,

(46:30):
just until put a pin in it, because I do
want to hear what you had to say that. This
is the issue that I think because I was naive
as well to the point of all right, I thought
maybe you know, yeah, a guy who's the backup running
back at Alabama is like, you know what, I'm not
getting any snaps, So guess what. The car dealership doesn't
care if I come down there or not in signs
some autographs, but if I go, you know, maybe if

(46:52):
I go over to uh, you know, Virginia Tech. Maybe
I could go and you know, go to that car
dealership in Blacksburg. And then that that was me being
naive thinking that that was going to be the N
I L world. And because I was so naive, Jeff,
I almost give the n C Double a a pass
because and and not a complete pass. But I don't
know specifically on what they could have done to see

(47:18):
what exactly went completely out of the box like it's been.
It's been so wide ranging, and I don't think everything
is N I L. Like and that's why I think
that it's pay for play. That that's a that's it's
it's called it's this called it is paid for play.
Right and again, like, but here's the ed O'Bannon sued
the n double a fifteen years ago over this, right,

(47:40):
Like they've had a lot of time to be like, hey,
you know what, we'll give each player five thousand dollars, like,
you know, like they could have just and that would
have ended it, right they would be like, okay, cool,
and maybe it eventually becomes this at some point, but
they don't get sued. Yeah, like like they just decided
to just pretend this wasn't happening. And but here, here's

(48:00):
the thing about this. I'm telling you just just you
have to be patient, guys, because what's gonna happen. I'm
gonna use example. So there's a player rumored to have
an eight million dollar deal to go to Tennessee. It's
a five star quarterback. Pretty much everyone knows which quarterback
it was. It's not very hard. The deal was announced
and then one day later he committed Tennessee. Okay, we
kind of know who it is. So here's the deal then,

(48:23):
is that if said player goes to Tennessee and it's
not good, the next guy is not getting eighty million dollars. Okay.
I just think that there's a lot of money being
thrown around right now, and I think the market will
settle it south out in a couple of years. Look
at look at this past season the high earning quarterbacks, right,
and it wasn't less paid for play and more like

(48:45):
n I L type deals. Derrick King of Miami, how
did that go for for Miami? Uh? DJ at at
you at at Clemson that didn't work right, Queen you
has got a million dollars go to Ohio State. He's
now playing in Texas. Spencer Ratler, How did that work
out for Oklahoma? Spencer Rattler. The list goes on and on.
Players who got a lot of money, a lot of

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deals that did not play very well. It's already stressful
enough to play sports, then you have college on top
of that, and now you're getting paid not not just
from like a car dealership, but a collective of boosters. Okay, So, like,
if you're this quarterback now going to Tennessee, not only
do you answer to your coaches, to your teammates, to yourself,
you don't have to play well to keep your contract

(49:29):
from the boosters that are probably how do you like?
Why why don't you better? Why don't you playing? And
then obviously there's a rip between I think the player
and coach at some point because of that, right, boosters
are saying, hey, why is this guy not playing? Coach
like he's not good enough? Well, the boost like, I
paid this guy, you better play him, right. So I
think it will settle down in a couple of years
to where it's not as as big, but there's no

(49:51):
going backwards, right, I mean it there's there's there's no rule,
there's no one to go backwards. In my opinion, I agree,
Like now we're we're seeing everything go forward to your point,
and at some point there's stuff that is going to
pull back. But right now we are like in full
speed ahead. This is where everything is is flying and

(50:12):
at some point I think the governor will be put
on this train. Is not. It's like how though, because
I don't know the one because it's from what you said.
Because when you're if you're if you're giving x amount
of money to to certain players that are you know,
eight figures. Yeah. But but but the way they're doing
it though, they're technically not doing it like against the rules, right,

(50:36):
Like like they're not paying said play. It's like it's
a marketing firm, right, Like they're paying the player a
marketing deal to go to a school. They're not signing
like a contract saying you must go to the school
to get this money. That's a loophole around it, right,
I mean that's it is there are paying them to
go to Tennessee. But the loophole would think that if

(50:57):
that that that the booster that throws into this fund
that throws the money into the fun year after year,
and it's getting absolutely zero return on their investment. Because
these kids aren't panning out. You don't think that that
booster will be gun shy and no, no, no, no,
I think they. I think they will be gun shy.
But they might also just fire the coach and find

(51:19):
someone else to work with these guys. I mean, so yeah,
I think they will be gunshot because I think again,
like we've seen it really in year one at least,
as not quite match the performance of the player on
the field and the money they've gotten. Again, we'll see
again if you're paying up some eight million dollars and
you don't want to change, I mean, you're paying this
kid to win a championship and win a Heisman, and
like that's not gonna tell You're not gonna win a

(51:41):
championship Tennessee in the next couple of years. Not gonna happen. Um,
So I think there'll be a little bit of a pullback.
I don't know what that is, but also don't I
also think if you limit the transfer window even shorter
than it is now, that would help with a lot
of this too open transfer look, and usc is openly
recruiting players. I mean, there's no doubt about so other programs,

(52:02):
not just USC UM And Jordan asked me, by the way,
it has not even gone in the portal yet at
least today's the deadline. And then and the one kid
even try to say a long Miami, He's like, he
didn't go either. Now to give him more money, it's supposedly,
but I'm everywhere else in the world in society, you
can do this. And I just and and and and

(52:23):
I'm all for the chaos because the n C Double
A was not prepared for this to happen. Like for
so many years they had a chance, an opportunity to
come up with a system where the white that or not.
They had a chance to do that. And just just
just how how many how if if if college football
players and college basketball players were forced to sit out

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a year under the old rule, how much do you
think that this would limit guys moving around if they
had to sit out the first year, like like like
let's say Jordan Addison ends up transferring you, Oh no, no,
they wouldn't. They wuldn't transfer, correct, And that's what I
think is part of it like we look at everything
we say, name, image and likeness. To your point, it's

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not all n I l. It's not all a guy
doing that, because it is the collective. It is the
money that is being put aside by these schools for
these players, or being raised however you want to put it.
But it's also the combination of the change of the
rule that allowed UH immediate eligibility in these you know sports.

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You could have done it with all the other sports previously,
but you know, men's and women's college basketball and football,
and I believe there was I can't remember from his
men's hockey or baseball, but you would have to sit
out the year. But now that that has changed, I
think that is also so like there are there are
a confluence of events that have have allowed this wild
wild west in the college sports. It certainly has. I

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mean I had argue at the time that I thought
transfer I still feel this way that open transfer was
ultimately not gonna end up being good for the masses,
and it really has it. I mean, the numbers of
players who who have gone in the transfer portal and
had to go down a level have not been picked
back up again far atways, the ones that have right,

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And I understand that, you know that players want to
move and whatnot, but you know, there's other opportunities in
my college where when I certainly, at least in the
era now, I would have definitely transferred. I think that
would have been a mistake looking back at UH in
my career, and I think that you know a lot
of times that I've seen the team of the teams
I follow, you know, player transfers out and the guy

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that takes their spot immediately gets hurt. It's like you
would have played, you would have played last season, And
it happens all the time, right, and um, it happened
exactly what I, like I thought it would were. It's
just a mess. A lot of players are not the
grasses and almost never greener anywhere. Um and except for
you know, a bunch of quarterbacks for the most part. Um.

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But now us me us, He's built their entire roster
off transfers. This is what they're doing. I mean, they're
just going to portal and grabbing a bunch of ready
made players. It's the it place to be in l a. Uh,
the place to be right now in the NBA Memphis.
That's because the Warriors and Grizzlies tied up at one
ten apiece with under two minutes and thirty seconds to

(55:13):
go in this game one in John Morant has actually
just put Memphis Actually was it? John Morant was a
Brandon Clark that with the bucket. Anyway, Memphis has gone
up to with an opportunity to maybe go up three
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Sports Sunday. And they're going down to the wire in Memphis.
Golden State up one on the Grizzlies, one seventeen to

(56:21):
one sixteen. And now the Warriors have the basketball and
are playing keep away and we're able to uh to
get about I don't know, fifteen seconds off of the
clock by just tribbling around, but Golden State has just
taken a one seventeen, one sixteen lead on Memphis. He
is Jeff Schwartz, the veteran by the Memphis not foul

(56:43):
and I have I have Warriors minus two, so I'm
watching this other uh but like this would be impressive
good basketball. Last I just and and I want to
bring Adam Caplin our Fox Sports Radio NFL in Center
here on Fox Sports Sunday, but I need Iowa Sam
and Ryan Burr Singer are executive producer and technical producer. Guys,

(57:06):
what did I say to you in the break with
about a minute to go in this game? Do you
guys remember Do you guys remember anyone Bueler, Ryan Burr Singer,
Iowa Sam, you said that this would happen. In essence,
I said that Clay Thompson was going to hit a
shot for Golden State, and Clay Thompson hit a three
to put Golden State up by one on Seen to

(57:28):
one sixteen. So we were in break. So I you know, Adam,
I get a lot of stuff wrong when it comes to,
you know, sports, So I'm at least in a peacock
when I get something right. Good to be with you guys. Yeah,
exact of a game though, it is really amazing Memphis
showing their their their youth little bit here and they
certainly had a chance to win and come back here.

(57:49):
But what a week it's been in sports, no question
about it. Let's let's start with the draft, alright. I'm
just flat out. We talked draft grades, we talked this
and that. Who was drafted? You of after the it's
not even closed the Jets unbelievable. But you know, I
was at the draft in Las Vegas working from my
friends at Sports Grade on TV all week, so you know,

(58:09):
as we dissected it, I mean when of the last
time Jet fans could say we nailed the draft. And
I've heard of every single player that was drafted in
the first three rounds and it's just really it was
like that. I mean, they nailed it. And the thing is, uh,
talking to Jets during the draft, you know, they pretty
much got all these players near the top of the
draft board. You know, did it break the right way? Sure,

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not every team has the same grades, of course on
their board, but they did a phenomenal job and excellent
execution by Joe Douglas, a general manager. What about the Giants,
I was impressed, you they were able at five and seven.
It was almost unscrupable, Like there was like, I don't
know how they would have screwed up, but they got
you know, with some suspect as the highest upside for
a pass rush short five and I thought was the

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best offense tackle with Neil. Yeah, the only thing about
Neil is uh, they confirmed on the record, which I known,
that Neil's got a knee issue that some teams red flag.
But they're gonna play him at right tackle. They they
love Andrew Thomas. They felt as as they've been telling
me for months, at Andrew Thomas is the franchise left tackle,
and true to the word, Neal will play right tackle

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and Thibodeau. Look, they need another pass rusher. I thought
they did a good job. Uh. There's some teams that
were you know, you scratch your head a little bit,
but I think overall most teams did well. But obviously
the biggest story that the two big stories of the draft.
The biggest story of the the draft was a J. Brown trade,
which no one saw coming. And then in fact, I
think some of the coaches staff didn't see it coming
until it happened. And then uh and then uh, the

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the uh, I would have to say, the quarterbacks dropping
only one in the first two rounds. I was not
quite expecting that. Adam Capitlan our Fox Sports Radio NFL
Insider also hear them on the Inside the Birds podcast.
Find them on Twitter at Kaplan NFL. Adam joins us
here on Fox Sports Sunday, six points, seven seconds left
to go. Warriors up one, but Clay Thompson missed the

(59:56):
first of two free throws, so Memphis does have some
life here. You mentioned the A. J. Brown acquisition by Philadelphia.
Is this a Now, let's give Jalen Hurts so many weapons?
Or is this all right? Jalen Hurts, You've got two
to show us what you've got? What? What? What is this?
What does this do for the Eagles quarterbacking position? Yeah,

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what I'm told Dan is that this is just an opportunity.
They they were not sure if they would be able
to get the type of receiver they were looking for
uh in this draft, and this just there's a guy
they really like for the nineteen drafty they had a
very high second round grade on him. Just about opportunity
and they knew that. The funny because you know, a

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week ago the Titans were pretty certain they're gonna get
extension done by the draft. They were working on it,
and then the Eagles, like other teams, check back in
and they found out that it was not as close
as some people thought it would be, and they just
had a buying opportunity. Now. I'm also told the Jets called.
This is interesting. I don't think. I don't know if
this is out there, but the Jets called leading up

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to their pick uh Gat for Garrett Wilson. They called
just to see what the story was and they were
told he was going to Philly. And it's really really shocking,
and none of the Titans, as I do a j
Brown was the leader of offense and Kevin Byrd on defense,
and I would say by that trade that made them
worse certainly do not make them better. It's about the Chiefs.

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I was impressed with with what they got done. They
hit all the targets they needed to hit as far
as positions, they did so efficiently. Um, were you impressed
with the with the Chiefs draft? Yeah. I think they
got sky More in the second round, who, I would
tell you is probably one of the favorite receivers for
coaches around the National Football League. Um, who will probably

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play a lot And I'm told um, with More he
could play inside or outside. So yeah, I did. I
thought the Chiefs did a good job. They were able
to address some needs. You know, Karl Loftus, Depending on
who you speak, he's not a great pass Roger, He's
more of a power end. Um. But they might have
some isssue next year. I'm talking about twenty three defensive end.
Some guys might be moving on. So I totally understood

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why they did that. Adam Kapola joining us here at
Fox Sports Sunday. He's Jeff Schwartz, I'm Dan Buyer hanging
out with you. Memphis has the ball, by the way,
with three point six seconds left is Clay Thompson missed
both free throws, so it's still a one point game
in Memphis. Jeff and I were talking about this earlier.
I had a problem with it. Jeff didn't. I had
a problem with Minnesota doing deals with division rivals, especially

(01:02:26):
significant deals. The Detroit one was was pretty big for them.
Packers end up getting a target and Christian Watson. Uh
in that deal with Minnesota. Is that a thing of
the past. Is this is this something that we're going
to see more often now? Um, just a front office
is not necessarily caring just getting the deal, because that
struck me as odd. And I didn't love that Minnis.

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I didn't love either deal that Minnesota did for different reasons.
But is that just an old school mentality of thinking
In the NFL? Now we see we see it occasionally.
We won't see a lot, particularly player for player. We
don't see, Um, it's rare to happen. But yeah, we
do see team teams pick Eagles. Actually they traded up
last year. Uh, and they traded with Dallas to get

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you ever get Davante Smith. It is weird. It is weird.
You don't you don't typically see that, but it's just
it all. It compends what the value is. But teams
do not like him. It doesn't happen much, but teams
don't like trading for inside the division. Now, when you
trade inside the division for players, it's typically when you
think the guy's done. When the Eagles traded away to

(01:03:30):
Donothan McNab, they were not worried about trade and they
thought he was toast and they were right. And you
just don't see that a lot though. Staying with the Eagles,
they dropped into Kobe Dean, the linebacker out of Georgia,
who fell pretty far compared to what people expected from him.
How bad is is his medical and is that the
reason why he fell? Yeah? Totally medical. Although here's the

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interesting thing about it. So the Eagles, you know, there's
a what I'm told is he had a pectorial issue.
But not only is it not an issue, he's going
to participate think their minicamp, rookie minicamp next week. So
the Eagles kind of asked themselves, what are we missing here?
Because I don't know if you know this, this is
really interesting. Teams share medical information for the draft, they
share they share scans, so they all have. They all

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have the same axis. So you have to ask yourself
this question, why do the Eagles know this? Why we're
several teams concerned about it. That's why I dropped to
the third, but the Eagles weren't. Now here's another part
of this naw Kobe Dean stuff. He did pretty much
play every game last season, but he had three or
four minor injuries he was dealing with. And he's a
smaller player and Egle's no through analytics, linebackers are some

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of the most defensive, the injured defensive players in the NFL.
They elbow, shoulder, chest, concussion, that this is. They have
a big injury history because of the contact that they
take on and they know this. But you're talking about
one of the best line packers for this draft of
the third round, and to them it was kind of
a no brainer. The game in Memphis is over. David

(01:04:55):
Gasconton will tell us what happens in about three minutes
or so. We got a couple more with Adam Caplan
or Fox Sports Radio NFL in center. All right, it's
the first draft of the post Russell Wilson era in
Seattle and looking at what the Seahawks did Adam kaplan.
What is your first thoughts at first blush of the
post Wilson era in the Northwest. Yeah, look, the quarterback

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situation is what it is. I mean, I'm kind of
laughing that they think to you know, so they they're
saying Judor Smith is in the lead right now. I mean, you,
Dan is a Seahawk fan. You can't be happy with that.
But they did something which they knew they had to do.
They had a draft to left tackle. Now, Charles Cross,
I'm told of the three top guys, is the furthest
away from being ready. Multiple teams told me that, um,

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from a processing standpoint, he's just got a little bit
ways to go, a little bit raw, but very gifted.
My fave was the guy was supposed to go in
the second round, Edge Rusher h from Minnesota. But here's
a little thing about Mafe which I find interesting. You
can line them up at d N. You can line
him up actually inside at three technique, which he actually
played a little bit uh for them, and then at Minnesota.

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Then here's the steel I think Kenth Walker, who had
an unbelievable see if at Michigan State after transferring from
Wake Farst as one year starter. He was marvelous. And
then here's a little here's a here's a cool little
pick for you for your if you're Seahawk fan, bow Melton,
who's dad Gary play in the NFL a little bit.
He's a receiver out of Rutgers. He was at the
Senior Bowl. He's gonna be one of those jack knife

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guys who's gonna play receiver, play a little running back,
hand off inside to him a little bit. He's sort
of a jack of all trades guy. So keep an
eye on him at training camp for the Seahawks. Who
are some teams that that you didn't like their process
on this past weekend, like one like Arizona? To me,
just I don't know what they're doing in New England

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obviously they just they drafted their own beat um. Who
are a couple of those teams for you? Yeah, let
me go, Jeff. I'm glad you mentioned New England because
everyone knows col Strange. So here's what I was told
before the draft, someone very close the situation said most
teams had a late too early on him, and he
went late in the first round. And what we have
to understand is New England is not draft by They

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don't grade by round. They grade. They have a system.
It's just for their system for their team. They have
a scouting system, and they had him going where they went.
Now he's a guard tackle, He's played four positions. He's
an interesting player. Uh. The kid Marcus Jones a third
round is a favorite of a lot of scouting people.

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He's very small, but explosive, tremendous returner. Yeah. Look, overall,
it was a little surprising to me. I would agree.
I don't I want to say Cole Strangers was a
reach until he actually plays football, but that was certainly
an interesting trade. That was interesting. Uh. Pick, and then
let's go to Arizona, the Hollywood Brown trade. Look, they
they they gave a first, but got the player back

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in a third. He's a kid who's very explosives, been
somewhat of an underchiever on a team that done throw
a lot, and they're gonna throw a lot. By the way,
now you go to Arizona, they're gonna throw a lot.
Trey McBride the best ted in for this draft. But
you have to ask yourself this question. They don't use
the tight ends enough. Although look they made the trade
last year for zach Ert to sign a new deal.
But that's the question. Now are they going to use

(01:08:10):
the tent and a lot because they really have not
that that was a surprise there with McBride in the
second round, no question. He's Adam capit our Fox Sports
Radio NFL Insider. Get him on Twitter at Kaplan NFL. Here,
I'm on the Inside the Birds podcast as well. We
got a lot offseason to talk about Baker Mayfield and
we'll do that then. So you aren't done for the day, Adam,
who's your first pie? Do we have an answer yet?

(01:08:30):
Do we have a no? It would probably be a
quarterback though, because this is draft was terrible for quarterback
as we know. Just say Will Anderson, you're set. Just
send that for the next three and sixty two days.
I'm study, Thank you, Thanks Adam. He's Jeff Schwards. I'm
Dan Fire. Let's go to the news desk, David Gascott.
What went down in the Grindhouse in Memphis? This thing
is all over Fellas and it was a tight one throughout.

(01:08:51):
Cool throws to Thompson. Pump bag takes a staff takes
the jumper on it. Play Tompson, the three, Warriors lead
by one seventh won sixties Warriors Radio network. I kept
looking at Clay Thompson Statlin the first half and it
just went from bad to worse and it was ugly,
and then all of a sudden the second half woke

(01:09:12):
up found ocean and uh closes out with the game
winning shot. He missed two free throws, but Golden States
still held on to survive. John Morad missed a running
layup with some traffic in front of him and they
felt a buck short one seventeen and one sixteen, So
Golden State takes game one. They did it without Draymond Green,
who was ejected in the second quarter because of a
flagrant foul. UH step Courier twenty four, but the high

(01:09:35):
MoU was Jordan Pool thirty one points and thirty eight
minutes off the bench, five of ten from Downtown, nine
assists and also eight rebounds. That is a complete game.
Uhcent was Golden State shooting from outside. Memphis is at
forty three. Earlier today, Milwaukee dispatched Boston one on one
to eighty nine. Drew Holiday had led the charge with
twenty five nice at four, thirteen rebounds and twelve assists.

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Milwaukee's defense held Boston at shooting from the field. Major
League Baseball San Diego five two winners over the Pittsburgh Pirates.
Joe mustgro picked at the w there he's four and
oh this season. When the er A seve to it
at one, Mariners seven three over the Marlins, Angels win again.
Mike Trout with the home run six to five was
the final, and that affair comes to nothing at Milwaukee

(01:10:22):
Yankee six four winners at Kansas City, San Francisco getting
pummeled at home by Washington eight nothing. They're Dodgers six
two in the eight against the Detroit Tigers. Man, I
don't know. I mean, you guys are talking a lot
of drafts. Can we can we talk about the play
before the jump ball between the Grizzes and Warriors. The

(01:10:44):
officials just so there was a claim miss two foul shots.
The second one he missed, it went off to the right.
Memphis clearly hit the ball, Okay. The both refs looked
at each other and called nothing. That's called the jump ball.
Didn't even make a call. They're like, yeah, I'm I'm
not I don't know yet. Your job make make a call.

(01:11:06):
What are we doing it was the Spider Man meme there,
but it's one of the most ridiculous officiat things I've
ever seen. They literally didn't make a call and it
ended up being a jump ball then at mid court,
which Memphis got, which allowed them to get that shot off.
So I guess if you want to say that the again,
the if there was a rigging of the of this game,

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that Golden State ended up getting a break at the
end there, which maybe wasn't the case early on. So
for those that want to say the NBA's right, they
guess it kind of all evened out. It's a it's
a well. Also, why kid, it's a review. The point
of review to like review like important players in the game,
and that's like they can't review this without a coach's challenge.

(01:11:48):
I don't get the NBA, well under two minutes out
of bounds, I believe is is no, it's nothing changed
it back. That's why didn't review this because there was
no there was no no one had challenge left. Oh, okay,
we got a game to play, all right, let's start
it out because we're short on time. Jeff Schwartz, you're
on the hot seat. Easy as one to three four.
We're gonna do one question here and if Jeff gets

(01:12:11):
it quickly, we're gonna do another. But then we'll have
to save it for the flip side. David Gascon, don't
go far. You're a lifeline as his Iowa Sam as
his Ryan Burshing or our executive producer Jeff. You can
rely on the guys. The goal is to get a
perfect score of ten. Today's over under is eight and
a half, so we hope that you can hit the Yeah,
and I think he'll do pretty good on this one

(01:12:31):
as well. And NFL Draft edition of easy as one, two,
three four. Jeff Schwartz name one of two pack twelve
schools that didn't have a player drafted in the two
NFL Draft. Um, there were only two. I thought there
were more of that. Oh well, according to my information
that uh that I tracked down that there was. We're

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up to a great start. Yeah, okay, I'll go with
I'll go with I'll go with with Arizona. Okay, show
me Arizona. But yes, there it is. That is that
is what I I had Arizona in Colorado as the
two that those were the two that I had that
did not have a player picked in the u NFL draft?

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Were there more? Was there? Was there who was drafted
from state? Oh? They did not make the list that
that I was able to get here. So I'm just
I mean, I should know this, it's my job. But
I got one right, you got one right? That's all right.
We're gonna stick to this team named two of three
Big twelve schools that didn't have a player drafted in
the NFL draft. Um, well Texas, Uh right, yes, well,

(01:13:46):
well love to see Texas and uh Kansas, Texas and Kansas?
All right, those are your final answers. You got a lifeline,
all right? Show me Texas? Yes, Texas did not have
anyone drafted? And is it Kansas? No? TCU? And West
Virginia where the other schools I said one player drafted?

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And Oregon State did have a player drafted? The tight
end Teagan? Uh? Is it Quitania? Quit Oriana? Is that
sound right? Fifth round pick of the Houston Texas. Okay, cool,
he's like the eighth best tight end the conference. But okay,
sure you're two of three here on easy as one

(01:14:30):
to three four we will continue our draft episode. The
good thing is Jeff has all of his lifelines available
to get him on Twitter at Jeff Schwartz. You can
find me on Twitter at Dan Buyer. On Fox the
end of Easiest one to three four comes up next
to year on Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday. He's
the NFL VET, Jeff Schwartz. I'm Dan Buyer, glad to
have you with us. Is we are smack dab in

(01:14:51):
the middle of our game of easy as one to
three four. Jeff Schwartz right now is two for three,
two for three. You've got the ability could still hit
the over you get these next two questions? Uh, completely correct.
The over under was eight and a half. Any of
all your lifelines, David Gascon, Ryan bur Singer and I
are there for you as well. Let's strike up the

(01:15:11):
band and continue the game as we now want Jeff
Schwarts to name three of four schools with the most
players drafted in the two NFL draft. So there were
four schools that had more players drafted than anyone else.
I need three of those schools. Georgia okay, um oh man,

(01:15:36):
I got some life as well. You know, I know,
I don't know who's who's the best on college football
on this h I was Sam's pretty much, Sam Lifeline Iowa. Sam,
I was thinking Cincinnati had a bunch of players drafts.
I'm not sure they had. Are they up there? You think?
I think that, um, the four playoff teams might have
had among the most, which makes sense. They might have
had the most. Michigan. Michigan had one offense alignment, drafted

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one safety, two has rushers. I would I would go Cincinnati,
I would go Georgia, Alabama probably, Yeah, that was gonna
was gonna put Alabama there too. Um, let's do those.
Let's do those three Georgia, Alabama, and Cincinnati. I get
that correct, Okay, alright, show me Georgia set the record fifteen, yes,

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absolutely crazy. Show me Cincinnati a nine nine bear Cats
that made the list, and is it Alabama? Alabama had
seven players, but that is tied for fifth best. The
other two schools that we would have accepted l s
U with ten, Penn State with eight, Penn State and

(01:16:44):
eight players drafted. Yeah, Ohio State had six. Michigan you
talked about at five, Oklahoma had seven, Ole Miss and
U c. L A had six a piece as well.
So there you go. Four of six could still get
eight of ten, which is a very respectable score. Jeff Schwartz.
If you can name four of the five schools in

(01:17:07):
Power five conferences with the longest droughts of not having
a first round pick. So Power five schools, they've had
the longest droughts without having a first round pick. Um.

(01:17:28):
Oh wow, Okay, I know this is this is the
tough one. This is the tough one teams in my head. Okay, Um,
I'm gonna put I'm gonna put um. Oh boy, I'll
put Arizona in there out all right. I even know

(01:17:52):
when they would have had a first round pick. Jeez um,
any of the lifelines chomping at the bit on this.
I don't know, don't even know who would be the best?
Ryan or Iowa? Sam, I got one for you, Okay,
who who do we got? It? Is? Iowa State? Yes?
Oh yeah, I was yeah, Sam, I thought it was yesterday.

(01:18:13):
I always state like fifty fifty years right, fifty years correct? Um?
So Iowa State, Arizona. Um that it could be a
damn buyer question. So could it be a Washington school
because Washington State had like had Ryan leif Um, Washington
just had one this year. Um? Yeah, So I don't

(01:18:34):
think it's Washington State. Ryan Leaf was what twenty years ago?
But that's there's no way there's other teams. I don't
care about the state of Washington, just u. I really,
I have not the sliced idea. I don't even know
what I mean. That's like that, that's a that's a
hard question because what about what about like a Northwestern
because it's not like it's not like Kansas, right, because Kansas,

(01:18:55):
I think I had those corners, a couple of corners
draft in the first round, right, like it's easy to
say them, but I think only that's true. Maybe you
do want to say them. Okay, fine, I'll say Kansas.
Then okay, Northwestern. I'm just throwing out Northwestern alright last year? Yeah,
an you got I'll just go with those three because

(01:19:21):
I no, Okay, show me Arizona. There they are fifteen
years since they've had a first round pick. Show me
Kansas all right, there it is, and show me Iowa State. Yea,
there it is fifty years what what? What? What conference
are the other ones there? Well? The here uh sec

(01:19:45):
uh and oh no, Yeahnesota, Vanderbilt and Indiana. Vanderbilt in Indiana,
those were the schools of the longest Indiana twenty nine years,
Vanderbilt fifteen and keep to lead, by the way, the
last Jayhawk first round pick. Yeah, I knew that. A

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Sports Sunday. On his first day of May. A very
happy birthday to my mom today. It was my mom's birthday,

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and yeah, I will pass it along because she is
uh here in southern California celebrating my son, my son's
first birthday last week. So she came out to celebrate
that and stayed the week and so yeah, so we're
gonna go and celebrate mom tonight. So a happy birthday
to her and I will do the did your son
son or daughter? You have a son? Did your son

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do the smash cake smash cake? Yes, yes, but he
didn't smash the actual cake. He just got frosting everywhere.
It depends on the in like yes, one of my
caffree I think my son did that. Of my daughter,
like had interest in it. Yeah, ours was a little hesitant.
He was fine to put his hands in the frosting,

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but then I think when he got to the cake part,
it was kind of like, hey, what's this, So then
he just moved the frosting everywhere. So like the the
actual cake part was pretty well intact, but the frosting
was just absolutely everyone. Yeah, kind of kind of like
the Celtics today. I guess you can say they were
absolutely everywhere and losing to the box. So the for

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the for those that who did you like to did
you like a Golden State in Milwaukee entering today or
I like I beg Golden State. UM obviously did not
cover um UM. I think they would have won that
game probably made with these with Draymond right, I mean,
didn play a second half and that's when they really
turned it on. UM. And the first game I really
didn't have a take on that. I thought it would

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be lower scoring because of the defense of the wood
boss and playing defense, but we saw them both the
games say the experience is really important. We all know that,
but the NBA right experience is so important, um, maybe
more so than any other league. In the playoffs, and
we saw a team in the Bucks that I've been
in this spot many times, and a team like the
Warriors obviously now with different players at times. Jordan Poole

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obviously wasn't part of the run before, Hannon Wiggins wasn't either,
But day in the end, Clay Thompson hit the big
game when a shot. Steph Curry had some awesome passes
for some for some big assist down the stretch. Was
played great defense as well. So I think we're seeing
obviously that you know, there's an experience factor that really
helps these games. Yeah, and the Bucks have been playing
without Chris Middleton obviously, um, you knew would would be

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a factor with them, but it didn't really show today.
I mean, the Bucks held the Celtics to just thirty
three percent. Shooting in Boston just seemed to be to
be out of sorts. And you know, week days, you
can hear me on the Doug gott Leap Show on
Fox Sports Radio, and we were, uh, Doug and myself
and John Ramos and Jason Stewart, We're just having a
cover station about just the the the unstoppable nous kind

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of the feeling of the Warriors that you're gonna kind
of get like, are the Warriors on a on a
like redemption run? Do you cheer for them? Because they
have been out of it the last couple of years.
So we kind of were talking about that conversation, and
it kind of, you know, shifted to when they play
their beautiful basketball, is it something that you can appreciate? Yeah,

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and and and and that was Doug's taken. For me,
it's it's frustrating because I am I I am competing
in a way, I guess fandom wise against Golden State.
I got sick of Golden State pretty quickly. Once they
beat the Bulls record of seventy two. I was kind
of over and I was kind of over the Warriors,
and I had wondered on this redemption tour on how

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I would look at Golden State, and honestly, Jeff, I
started to just kind of sour on them again, like,
now here's another team that looks like with you know,
the the injury the Devin Booker at the time that
Phoenix was dealing with for the last week, I thought, wow,
here it is all set up for Golden State again
to make a run. So they go, you know, two
years without um appearing in an NBA Finals and even

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making the playoffs, and then now they're back in it.
I thought there would be more of uh, you know what, Yeah,
go get him Steph Curry again like you used to.
But I'm just not I'm not there yet. Like I
still think that their success is way too much in
the recent memory, and because they were there so often,
because they had that five year stretch where they made

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it to the finals every year. It's still difficult to me,
even with everything that Clay has gone through and what
their organization has missed out in the postseason the last
two years has gone through, I don't get this sentimental
feeling of wanting to watch the Warriors win, which therefore
translate to the point I make of even when they're
playing great basketball. To me, it kind of is frustrating

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because they make it look so easy. Um, yes, I
watched last NBA than than you do. And for the playoffs,
like I want to be entertained and the Warriors are
entertaining teams. I don't really root against them. I get
what you mean about overload, but again, they're doing a
little bit differently now with with Jordan and Pool right
being and Wiggins and whatnot and I think that, you know,

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the whole the Durant thing kind of made it I think,
much tougher to stomach them, right because it put together,
but they didn't do it. They didn't do that this
time right now. They traded for Wiggins obviously, but you know,
it wasn't like it wasn't like Kevin Durant. And and
so I think that makes us a little bit different, right,
And it's not quite the same vibe in my opinion,
But we need villains in this sport. They're not villains

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in this sport. And I think the Warriors would gladly
take on that villain roll. And then with Graymon and
Creamy probably love that, and I did. The sport needs that.
So if you're hate watching the Warriors, good like that.
Sport would love for you to hate watch the Warriors.
I mean how people hate watch Tom Brady in the
NFL all the time. Yeah, yeah, I think, I I agree,
Draymond would love it. I don't know. I don't know

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if it would affect Thompson or Steph Curry. They don't
they don't, they're not they don't have the personality to
be a Yeah, I think, and like the frustrating thing
is is because with think, if you're not a Warriors fan,
the emergence of Jordan's Pool shows how good that building is.

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And and and what I mean by that is the
the eye to draft him and then the surroundings to
develop him. And also I mean because it's everywhere. It's
not just only Jordan Pool, and it's not just only
the Golden State Warriors. So you take those two when
you put them together, and it's kind of like what

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the Spurs did all of a sudden, there'd be guys,
you know, I don't know if Kauai's Kauai. If he
doesn't plays you know, his first part of his career
in San Antonio, I don't think so. Yeah. And so
that's the frustrating thing to me about like watching Golden
State now as a Bucks fan, Jeff, I was looking
at it like when I watched Golden State, I get frustrated.
And when they're on their game because his beautiful basketball.

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But when you're also trying to go against that team
or don't want that team to win, you don't you
don't want to make it look easy. I don't like
Tom Brady, you know, picking apart defenses and making it
look easy. That wasn't That's not fun for me as
a Bucks fan. And someone like Janice who is just
so darn unstoppable even when he's having a bad game,
there's so many different ways that he affects it. Like

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I don't like, I don't understand, you know, because I'm
sitting there watching the game, and there's a rooting interest,
and I wondered if people get sick of seeing that
and and it and it made me you don't think,
so you know what I think? I just don't think that. Um,
I mean, John is not a draw. I think that
the Warriors team is. But he's just fun to watch though,
like he I think people like watching I mean he

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is a special player, right, I mean just the way
he plays and his skill set and one not I
think he's enjoyable to watch. Only people get tired of
watching good players, Like I just I don't think that
people get tired that they might say they do, but
they all end up watching him anyways, you know how,
you know what? I want to compare your honest too.
Did you have a nerf hoop when you're a kid? Yes, yes,

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and so did I and and my friends and I
we would always play nerf basketball. Put it on the door,
closed the door, and there's your hoop. And you couldn't
dribble the sponge basketball tried, but you really couldn't um.
And then usually the taller kid or the bigger kid
was able to score because he was always able to dunk.
And that's what like, I almost feel like you're watching

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Janice and and and it's not I'm not trying to
diminish his skill set, but when he does take the
steps that he doesn't need to dribble in getting too
the basket and it takes like two steps from the
from from mid court. Yes, it is nerf basketball when
you were ten years old. Like, that's what nice is
making the NBA feel like. And and that's what I'm

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curious on. And listen, it's not every single game and
he's not unstoppable and everything go a game, but he
does put forth the effort. And the the other great
thing about Janice and when we look at the m
v p s, the m v ps that we've had
in the past, it's gonna be difficult for anybody to
three pet with an m v P. I think like
the the repeat is about as far as you can
get that. Everybody just expects you to put up those

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numbers when Harden won his m v P, when Westbrook
won their m vps, they put up similar numbers the
next year, and we're saying like, oh, well they did
that a year ago, so it's not a big deal.
But Janice continues to improve. And I don't know if
that's the case. Well, I know it's not the case
of the Russell Westbrook now and I don't think it's
the case with James Harden. But when you're looking at
those m v P sort of caliber players, the most

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astonishing thing to me is with the honesty is because
he is so raw, it was so raw, and how
much he is not only transformed, but how much better
he has even gotten from three or four years ago. No,
you're and and you're right. I mean the way even
just his body is matured, right and you look at
you know, we've seen the pictures of him when he
first came NBA, but just continues to even just mature

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his body. Man, it's impressive. How much work did he's
put in. I feel like, I mean, you're honest, there's
no one of the Warriors that could even try to
stop him. I mean it's that would be a bad
matchup for gold And now the rest of the team
might be good matchup for the Wars, but you're honest
against the Warriors would not be ideal for Golden State. Yeah,
I don't know what matchup. I mean, maybe maybe a

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heat matchup that could be physical against the honest. Yeah,
and I know that Phoenix would like an opportunity to
get redemption. Um, I don't know how it would turn
out for them, but it's you know, sometimes it's to
be careful what you asked for. But yeah, to your point,
in Milwaukee and Golden State is actually kind of weird
because they've had this little even when Golden State was good.

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Remember when Golden State it started the year like twenty
four straight wins, they lost to Milwaukee. The Bucks were
the team that like broke that streak, and I'm saying,
we're headed for a Golden State Milwaukee thing. But the
Bucks then printed out t shirts, okay, which made all
of the Bay Area uh ticked off. So then all
of us you developed this like little mini rivalry between
Golden State and Milwaukee. But right now, as you see

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what these two teams did today, I think that's probably
the most appealing NBA Finals matchup that we could have. Yes,
I mean I think that, you know, the Grizzlies took
their best shot today Game one, the officiat ain't helped
them and they still lost and Draymond got tossed. Like,
I just think it's gonna be a tough series for them,
and I think Boston, you know, you can definitely rebound
and play better. But I think the Bucks are just

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gonna win this series, and so was the Warriors. And
then obviously we'll see what happens with Phoenix. If if
UM you know, they're healthy and ready to go, they
probably take down that series. I would love to see
UM Sons and UH and Warriors clash off. Yeah, I
I don't. I know that you're saying that you're not huge,
huge into the NBA, But have you enjoyed these playoffs? Then?

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Maybe I want to say pre COVID because I think
that's our last like real playoffs, But have you enjoyed
these more or less than what you can read bir
in recent memory? There is a point that I was
gonna make. I don't know the same. I guess I don't.
I don't like it's not appointment television. For me, it's
like all in the background. And I'm also a Lakers

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fan and we're not in the playoffs, so that can
end up doing it. And I mean, but I gamble
in the game still, like I I just I don't know.
It was fine. I guess I just on the point
that I was gonna make was. I think in previous
years we had an idea of who was going to
make the finals. It's probably gonna be Golden State and

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you're probably gonna see Cleveland. We kind of got sick
of that. But even if you didn't know who's gonna
make the NBA finals, you knew that those two teams
would at least be in the conference finals. Maybe Houston
would have an opportunity. And I would say with this
that even though we didn't get a seven game series
in the first round of the NBA playoffs, with these
matchups here and I know Joel embiid status is, you know,

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and so up in the air. In Philadelphia, I think
we think that Golden State's gonna win, and I think
we probably feel that Phoenix is gonna win. I thought
Boston still, I think Boston still actually does have a
shot against Milwaukee. But it's a nice step forward for
the Bucks today. But the point is is there are
a lot of different options for what we could get
in the conference finals or NBA Finals, and I actually

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think that makes it different of not knowing or expecting,
because I felt that the other series were always just
a formality in other years for us to get to
the Golden State in Cleveland playing in the conference finals
and maybe then they'll lose, whereas now, yeah, probably will
be Phoenix in Golden State, and very well it could
be Miami against Milwaukee, but we don't know that. And

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so I've actually enjoyed these first this first week or
two because I don't know how it's going to play out,
and usually in the NBA, you feel like there's always
been this road. So that's why it's felt different for me,
is that you weren't necessarily sure on how it was
going to play. And I guess last year you can
even say nobody expected a Phoenix Milwaukee finals. But I
think in other years that we kind of knew that Cleveland,

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Old State We're gonna be there. And I like this
much better, yes, But you know, in the end, though
a lot of times people the masses tend to watch
the teams that they that they know, right and so
um he set in in college sports a bunch. But
like teams like they just want to watch the Supertest.
We still have them here. But I think that even

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you know, Lebron, I think would pique the interest even
more of a lot of fans of the NBA if
he was in the in the playoffs, if the if
not the late m Yeah, yeah, I agree with that.
But I also think you mentioned like college football, like
people get sick of seeing the same four schools of
the playoffs. They watched all the games. So I don't know,

(01:34:44):
like like we say that a lot, but then all
the you know, I hate what I'm of Tom Brady
records setting super Bowl broadcast. I don't know. I think
I think I think a lot of people watch, um,
you know, more than they claim they do. Let let's
get toine this because because I think it's interesting, because
I think that there was some Brady I burnout. I

(01:35:06):
I really do think that that it happened in the NFL,
and I think it I think it happened in college
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Sports Sunday. I'm Dan Buyer. He's Jeff Schwartz, hanging out
with you. Bucks and Warriors get wins today, David Gascon.
I'll have more at the bottom of the hour. Quick
question for you, Jeff Schwartz before we continue our conversation
on fatigue. Where are all the tweets when the Grizzlies
were carried by the refs against the t Wolves. I
know what's about Twitter? That's when people like tweeting, like

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where was your tweeting this certain game? I go. I
I told the guy I have a strict policy against
tweeting about the Grizzly and and uh t woll serious,
like people are just there's just so it's so you know,
it's so funny. So one thing that I noticed all
the time is when these kind of controversial situations happened

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in a game with Draymond Green. Most players are on
the side of of like letting the players get away
with stuff, right, So if you look at a lot
of the players tweets, it was like there's no way
as you're into like a bunchet current NBA players and
then like random fan is like in a complete disagreement
with me. It's the weirdest thing ever. Like we're telling
you what it is, just except what it is. It

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was a bad call. Like just like everyone who's playing
or play sports thinks it's a bad call. Maybe you
know random name and number Twitter, you're wrong on this one.
Like just refer to the experts. We're like, just refer
it's not just refer to us, it's what's what. Like
we we play, we know what they should call, what

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they shouldn't call. Just refer to us. And this is
this is I believe this was at the end of
the game on the miss free throw by Clay Thompson,
the out of bounds call that went out of bounds,
and during one of the breaks, I was actually able
to rewind and and get a listen and get a
closer look. They called jump ball to your point, Chaff,
and I thought they reviewed it and you said, well,

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they're no more reviews um as both coaches us their challenges,
so that there was no review, Uh, not even a
normal review, that's out the window. Point being Taylor Jenkins
didn't have a review to look at it from his side,
Steve Curtain and have a review. But the jump ball
was like almost immediate, like there was there was not
even a discussion from the two refs on who the

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ball may have gone out of bounds on. They both
looked at each other to what you said, with their
arms kind of out, and it was the third ref
who went in it kind of blew his whistle and
just pointed to the uh you know, to half court
to being like all right, let's just jump it up there.
So it was it was a quicker decision than even
of the sides discussing. The Warriors uh probably got jobbed

(01:38:00):
on that one, but they end up getting a win.
But it was very very quick. It was it was
extremely quick. Um. So yeah, again like you just you
you always you just have a review all the time,
and we talked about and then you just and then
you just like you just don't use it such as

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which I don't get the how they do I just
don't get why how they do that. I don't know
how they do that. It's interesting is if Golden State
or if excuse me, if you know Memphis would have
had a review, you would have I mean, if they're
calling a jump ball in that situation, if your Memphis,
would you rather take the jump ball, or the fact

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that they may take a review and look at it
and you could lose possession, that would have been the
end you. I mean, you'd rather take your Memphis. You'd
rather take the jump ball. If you're the Warriors, you'd
rather take the review because the balling off Memphis. Yes,
but I don't think to the point though, neither ref
made a call on it, like you know, so like
there was there was no there was no call to it.

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So like if if you were if you were Memphis
there and you did a jump ball, there could have
been a chance you would have not gotten possession, right,
you don't win the tip, and that would have been
the discussion because the review would have shown that the
ball was out of bounds on Memphis. And I know
we're talking about a hypothetical situation, but like actually Memphis

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having their challenge. Now, if Steve Kerr had his challenge,
he would have been he would have benefited from it.
But Memphis not having a challenge, it would have been
an interesting situation when there was no call made because
even if you jump it up, there's no guarantee that
you get the basketball. And so Memphis would have had
a decision at least at that point to be like,
all right, do we just go with the jump ball

(01:39:50):
and hope we win the tip or do we actually
want to take a look at this, and then they
would have lost possession. That would have been the decision
Taylor Jenkins would have had to make. Just crazy, crazy
scenario anyway. It's just like the NBA reviews is like
you spend all this time throwing Draymond Green app we
can't review a plane. It just doesn't make at least

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make it makes sense to me, right, Like I just
if you get the call wrong, fine, but I wanted
to make sense. Yes, I don't mind putting it on
the onus on the coaches. It's one of the things
actually that I I like about the NFL, to be like,
all right, if you've you know, if you get one wrong,
that's on you. And you know, even if you run
out of challenges. That's that that's your fault. Like I

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kind of like that aspect of it, but I just
didn't hear any I just didn't see any call, and
to kind of just make it a jump ball seemed
like a kind of a cop out in that in
that scenario, correct, especially when the NBA officials will waste
no time in calling a charge, uh even sometimes quicker
than than n C Double A Tournament officials who absolutely

(01:40:53):
fell in love with the charge call this year in
the n C Double A Tournament. They love nothing more
than than a good charge of block called the NBA, Like,
there's nothing more than they love it. Uh. My favorite
are to see if the basket went down and then
if it doesn't, then the whistle, like like we're not
going to give you a three point play, but we'll

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give you two if the basket doesn't go down, and
then you get the late whistle. But I don't mind
it because I actually get a kick out of it
because everybody's in on it. It's not like and you
kind of then know your hierarchy of who's getting that
call and who's not getting that call, of where you
are in the NBA. If you are able to get
the late whistle. So yes, and that that's only the

(01:41:36):
NBA too. Like again, I like watching the NBA. It's
a we keep braiding on the NBA here, but like
the idea that we can just knowledge. Yeah, you know,
some guys get the call of some guys don't. I
guess the NFL works that all right. Tom Brady tends
to leave. But what's funny is the data actually doesn't
back off. The Tom Brady gets a lot of rough
and there was only one last year he was called.
It was called against Tom Brady, but nonetheless are called
against the person who hit Tom Brady. But yeah, it's

(01:41:57):
that's the way it always and I think that's kind
of what makes NBA funds. Sometimes you're like, yea, that
that call. Yep, that's an over player, he's gonna get
that call. I think it's more passing interference, like that's
where you would see breaks. Yeah, I don't think that.
I I don't really think they rule that. I never
get the sense when I watch a game like, oh
that's because that the wide receiver is older, sure, or

(01:42:17):
if it's I think I think they're just some of
those guys are just better and they are able to
make a play in the ball someone else can't make.
I don't, I don't. I never thought like, oh, the
older wide receiver, he gets that call. I never felt that.
Speaking of Tom Brady, will continue our discussion about the
fatigue and if we could see it in the NBA playoffs,
if the Warriors continue to advance. But first we go

(01:42:38):
to the news desk. David Gascott here to give us
the latest. What is happening on this Sunday little n
B a UH one hockey game to the hate but
the playoffs start tomorrow, and Jeff Craig if I'm wrong,
but I think the one call that went against the
opposition that Brady game was that the divisional round against

(01:42:59):
the Rams. Was there a botch call that gave Tampa
Bay life in that second half? It feels like a
lifetime ago. I maybe I don't ask Dan because Dad
will probably know anyway, because Dad has this Steve Hartman
like kind of catalog. Given that was the game when
I said it was over at do you remember that

(01:43:21):
it's officially so? I mean two, like the season has begun,
like I am, last season is over? Yeah, first thing
you start getting those withdrawals. You just turn the NFL
network and they just started showing the replaced from Emery
game Man. What happened with the Rams? It was there
were so many things that went wrong. There was the

(01:43:43):
Cooper Cup fumble, the wet All penalty, which actually didn't
hurt them because it was a fourth down, but really,
could you know I could have killed them. I've never
seen but I've never seen that call either in the NFL,
where they rule it like a dead ball, basically late
hit and they give the ball. It made sense. I
had never seen it before in the NFL. The the

(01:44:03):
Acres fumble, Yeah, he he had a rough game. I
about the one that was snapped thirty yards passed behind Matthewson.
That was good too. All that was good. And of
course the inexcusable blown coverage by Tampa late for Cooper
Cup to get free. Um, guys, as we reminisce, uh
good games today. At least one of them came down
to the wire. Golden State in Memphis, final act bounced

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passover to Iran, He'll drive in scoops. Oh good grief
out wake up. The Warriors win. The Warriors win. Memphis
got the look they wanted and Marian couldn't finish it.
Tad told the State captures same one with Tray Bond
Grade in the locker room. Yeah. One seventeen one sixteen
was the final. Draymond Green was given a flagrant two
in the second quarter. Obviously, Jack did Steph Curry at

(01:44:50):
twenty four, Jordan Pool thirty one, but the hero was
Clay Thompson. He hit the game when shot to give
Golden State that three point advantage and they held on.
They leave the series one game to love other him.
Today was Milwaukee and Boston Bucks went on the road.
One on one eighty nine was the final. Drew Holiday
led the charge of twenty five honest and a triple
double in that affair. Major League Baseball a bunch of

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games that have gone final. Gardens beat the A seven
at three. Dodgers double up the Tigers six and three.
Walker Beeler picked up the w Washington eleven, San Francisco five.
It's in the top of the ninth inning Colorado one.
Today St. Louis did as well. Yankees come from behind
to win at Kansas City Showyo Tany left the ball game.
Angels beat the White Sex six to five. Mike traded
a home run. Um, and guys, I was gonna mention

(01:45:32):
this earlier, but the the Cincinnati Reds I got dregged
again by the Rockies. Um. You know it's odd, right
because as a Cincinnati fan, don't you typically go when
the Reds are dreadful? You want to fast forward to
football season, but usually by week two or week three
year with for baseball season to come back. I think they'll, Yeah,

(01:45:53):
I think they'll have a slow burst in a third
gears football seasons right under garden. One of the great
things about Major League ace ball, and even if you
don't really have hope, there is still hope on opening Day.
I feel bad for any Reds fan that I mean, yeah, absolutely,
of of going to the ballpark, of just seeing a

(01:46:13):
competitive sort of team. And maybe maybe that's I mean,
I grew up. We were three and a half hours
from Milwaukee when when I was growing up, So it's
not you're not like when you're a kid. It wasn't like, oh,
let's just draft to Milwaukee for the day and go
to a game. You weren't doing that. You were saying,
what weekend are you gonna go to a Brewer's game?
And make it that weekend. If you're a Reds fan, man,

(01:46:34):
hecka rather go rafting. No, And it's not it's not
even it's you know, May one, we're one month in
and they're three and nineteen eleven and half. We're trying
to take are good. But I mean Joey votos on
his last legs. Yeah, that's just negative run differential. It's

(01:46:58):
just we're money two games into the regular season. That
is uh, that's that's brutal. So I don't know if
Jeff you are you tend to play a little bit,
so you might be seeing some heavy plus money on
Reds games, might be tempted to throw a little sauce
on it. So I'm having a good start to the
baseball season, and I had done one thing that has

(01:47:20):
really helped me. So, uh, you know, a way to
make money in baseball as you bet underdogs, as you
mentioned right, especially like home divisional dogs. And last year
I've bet a lot of orioles. It didn't go very
well for me. So I made a strict rule this year.
I'm not gonna wager on the Orioles at all, and
it's I haven't and it's made me a lot of money.
I just haven't lost any money. I will do the
same thing with with with the Reds. I'm just not

(01:47:41):
gonna bet on the Reds, even though the numbers will
tell me most games when they're at home, to wage
your on them, I'm not gonna do it. I'm not
gonna do it. Yeah I would. I wouldn't either. I'm
in a survivor pool for Major League Baseball, and you
gotta your team's just gotta have a winning record that week,
and you're five hundred are better. And so you think
that the law of averages that at some point the

(01:48:01):
Reds are gonna win three, three or maybe four games
in a week. But when you give only won three
games all season and maybe a team you want to
stay away from until the last week in September, that
way away from your over Being in a baseball survivor league,
it's it's unique. It's it's a three strikes and you're out.
So it's not just an automatic elimination if you get

(01:48:22):
one wrong. But you look for a team that maybe
faces the Reds, and if you just all you gotta
do is it's fun. It keeps it keeps it a
little bit more interesting. And thank you very much to
the Miami Marlins for their great week for allowing me
to uh to move on safely to uh to next week.
So that was very fun. Thank you very much, David Gascon,

(01:48:44):
great great work today. I want to get to the
fatigue stuff quick. At least put a bow on that.
You don't think that people got sick of seeing Tom
Brady in the Super Bowl, because that's I think they
got sick about it, but they still watch it anyways. See,
I think like when when the Super Bowl against the
Rams in Atlanta, they're just seemed to not be a

(01:49:07):
lot of buzz and then that game goes and plays
out and it's third, teen to three, and it's just
just kind of like there was such a there was
such a sigh of relief when the Chiefs made it
to the super Bowl the next year, and when New
England lost to Tennessee knowing that they weren't going to
be there. Like, I think that that that you do

(01:49:27):
get fatigue, And I think that I know, like it's
fun to cheer against Alabama and it's fun to see
Alabama lose, but when you see, like, was it was
it that great for people to watch Georgia beat Alabama.
I don't know, I like, I don't think that the
like people really get their jollys off of that anymore.
I think that there's you could just get tired of

(01:49:49):
certain teams, of seeing the Alabama's and the Clemsons in
the Ohio States and that in college football if you're
a fan there or even and and I feel kind
of the same way, and that that's kind of how
I feel about Golden State. I think I'd much rather
see Phoenix go to the NBA Finals again and try
to see if they can break through, then to see
Golden State be back in the NBA Finals. I just

(01:50:10):
ware of that stuff. Like I understand that it's great
to have the superstars in there. It's great they have
Steph Curry, it's great they have Tom Brady. But when
you're always seeing them, I think at some point you
get kind of numb. And that's that's where I am
with with with I got that way with Brady, you know,
getting that way with Alabama. Plus at the Alabama gainst
preferential treatment at times. But that's a different story for

(01:50:32):
a different day. Um. But I even Golden State now
without being in the playoffs, the last two years. It's
still too soon for me to them back in the finals.
I'd rather see a repeat or see Luca make a
run of this Memphis team than to see Golden State
make it. I know that I'm probably not um the
average family comes to somehow some of my taste of

(01:50:53):
football watching. But I want to watch the best play
and it just so happens to be Alabama and Georgia
for the second time in the season, and so be um.
I don't want to watch two bum teams play each
other just because for the for the sick of parody. Now,
if you want to argue that it's better for the
college football in general, that for Oregon and USC and
for Texas and Oklahoma and from Michigan Ohio State to

(01:51:15):
be good and obviously the teams in the South, sure
I'm with you there, But I don't want to watch
the championship game with two subpart teams just to get
parody in there, like it's not gonna ever happen. But
what if you know, what if there was a a
weird injury bug that rolls through a team the week
before a game, and I don't know, they can't make
up a fixing area. It's gonna happen, but I'd rather

(01:51:36):
I would rather watch Georgia Alabama than two teams that
don't really deserve to be there. Well, at what point then,
And I don't even know if there was a point
in your career or in your life, because there was,
there was a point for me where no matter who's
in the World Series, no matter who's in the NBA Finals,
no matter who's in the super Bowl, I'm watching. Yeah,

(01:52:00):
And and now I think that it's different. Now we're
just like, well, I'm maybe not that into it, and
maybe it's this is twelve year old me talking. And
it didn't matter who was in the World Series. But
I just I looked at the World Series as being
the World Series. One of the arguments that I hate
was people go online, oh, this would be a ratings disaster,
Like like to me, it's like, who cares? It's still

(01:52:21):
the World Series? Are It's still the n C Double
A title game, It's still the NBA Finals. It's too
you know, it's it's it's that aspect of it as well.
But if I had my druthers to pick the teams,
I wouldn't probably put Golden State back in there. But
it's still the NBA Finals, so I'm still gonna watch.
But I do think it's changed where it's you know,
maybe people aren't making an appointment television because there aren't

(01:52:42):
certain teams or certain names there. And I just want,
I don't know when when that has changed in our
sporting lives. Well, how about because it's we have access
to games seven now, right, So they supposed a good
example this, right, Like the reason why no one watches
the All Star Game anymore is because when we were kids,
we watched the All Star Game to see players from

(01:53:04):
the other league the whole time. I'm a Giants fan.
One time I got to watch someone from the a
L was the All Star you know the All Star
Game obviously, are like, well, you know the Yankees were
on television, right, Otherwise I only watched the n L play.
When the World Series came around, that might be the
first time all year I watched the most an a
L team, right until obviously in the playoffs, I might

(01:53:24):
watch an AL team play, but like, you know what
I mean, like you just don't get the opportunity. And
in basketball, if I only got to watch the Warriors
in the playoffs basically play you know someone. It just
it's being being able to watch it all the time
I think could make it less less special and big moments,
especially in baseball, and it's arguming for baseball. It's like

(01:53:45):
no one watches the All Star Game because I can
watch Mike Trout drop a bomb today. I don't need
to watch the home runer before I can. I just
saw him hit a home run against the White Sums
over Twitter earlier today. I don't need to watch him
hit more home runs in the All Star Game. I
need to watch them every night. Yeah, it's interleague plays changed,
you know stuff as well, um with when it comes
to baseball and seeing some of that. But yeah, you know,

(01:54:07):
I think that there's something to that. The national broadcast
game on NBC from Major League Baseball used to be
something that you would actually sit down and watch or
it was a big deal to have on And now
you know, I got the Nationals and Giants playing right now,
you know your Giants playing on you know National TV.
Did anybody can go and see on MLB network. So yeah,

(01:54:27):
there is a there is definitely that sort of angle
to it as well. I think Jordan kind of ruined
it as well, not that he meant to, but the
NBA Finals, like he became such a part of you know,
it was Jordan, it was the Bulls, not that Larry
and Magic weren't. But to me, that's when it also
kind of changed a little bit where we're not talking
about more of the specific parties playing than the actual

(01:54:50):
like NBA Finals itself. He's Jeff Schwartz, I'm Dan Buyer.
This is Fox Sports Sunday. Get Jeff on Twitter at
Jeff Schwartz. You can find me on Twitter at Dan Buyer.
On Fox. You wouldn't believe what one NFL draft he
said after he was taken in the draft this weekend.
We'll tell you what that was and who it was
next year on Fox Fox Sports Sunday. He's Jeff Schwartz.

(01:55:13):
I'm Dan Buyer. Ah, the NFL Draft is coming gone.
Three days of absolute fun, three days of convincing yourself
that your team did what they needed to do in
the selection process, and now brighter days are ahead. One
NFL draft prospect made quite the interesting statement, Jeff Schwartz,

(01:55:34):
do you know who I'm talking about? The guy who
was barking on this on the conference call. I missed
that who barked um the he was they said he
was so I mean, he was very excited. It was
the Winfrey kid who was drafted from Oklahoma, Yeah to
um uh to Cleveland. He was like he was so

(01:55:57):
excite of conference, was pacing like back and forth, like
just like so excited. So good for him. And hey,
if you're the you know, the dog pound, that is
a very apropos Uh. This comment that I've the one
that I was thinking came from one new Atlanta Falcons
quarterback Desmond. Yeah. Poor guy. He doesn't know anything about

(01:56:20):
Atlanta sports, does he? Poor fellow, Poor fellow. There's also
there's Jeff There's because I can't make that joke with
the Braves, but um, Atlanta football, how about that? Yeah,
that's that's fair enough of Braves ended it ly at
last fall. But I think we all kind of understood
where you're coming from. And there's also just the wherewithal

(01:56:40):
of your opportunity of where you are. Because Ritter was
a guy that hey, maybe some people said maybe could
be a first round pick, ends up being picked in
the third round by the Falcons and said, quote, I'm
not leaving until I get a Super Bowl end quote
from has been Ritter, so the NFL. The NFL puts

(01:57:03):
it up on Twitter and everybody does the face aging
graphic to Desmond Ritter and has a white bearded Desmond
Ritter still in his Falcons uniform. I love confidence in
these guys, and I understand, and you can have your
fullest confidence in yourself and your new teammates and your organization,

(01:57:24):
but it's also just the wherewithal of where you are,
there is no guarantee that Desmond Ritter will be the
quarterback of the future for the Atlanta Falcons, and so
to say that is just, yeah, a little too much
for me. I love the confidence, but I know these
guys are excited, as they should be. But yes, there
there should have been a little bit of a hey man,

(01:57:46):
look let me just get in there, get to work
in the third round pick like you're not guaranteed to
be the starter this year, but just just to a
deep breath, relax, um. Yeah, it's uh. These guys are excited.
They should be, of course, absolutely allowed to make fun
of them for their excitement. So what was your like,
what was your draft call? Like? Okay, so I was

(01:58:09):
draft to pick to forty one, who was in the
seventh round. And back then there were two days of
the draft, rounds one and two, and in the last
five rounds. The first day of the draft, ten off
of the tackles were taken records still in the first
two rounds. I thought I was gonna be drafted fairly
soon after that, so I sat down my parents house
six a m. On the West Coast and started watching

(01:58:30):
the draft, which I should not have done. Third round
goes by, fourth round goes by, fifth round goes by
a sixth round goes by, and the seventh and I
finally get a call and the voice of the other
line said, are you ready to become a Carolina panther
or something? Or are you ready to be drafted? And
excited to be drafted? I said so as I said
at this point, I don't even care. And they said

(01:58:53):
they said I had a deal. I had a fraid
to deal draft, a fraid to deal anyways somewhere else,
and they told me I was drafted. I was excited,
of course, but yeah, that was so my draft experience was.
Then my brother got drafted in the second round. At
top of second round, he got drafted so so early
we spent to late second round, probably pick thirty seven,
that we just like turn the TV off and we're like,

(01:59:14):
all right, well, I guess this is I guess we're
not watching draft anymore. Like cool, let's go to dinner.
I guess I just like was the exact opposite. Yeah,
did he have any gear? Did they have any team gear?
So what's funny is my uncle found to Carolina Panthers hats,
like in the mall in Weston probably Westide Pavilion, like

(01:59:34):
and back when there was a mall and in Los Angeles,
and we have a picture of me and my grandfather
wearing Panthers hats. I don't know. They don't. They don't
sell team gear and stores like that anymore, not in
Los Angeles. No, you can find eighties seven different Dodger
colored hats, but yeah, sure not find that. You will
not find Carolina Panthers. Yeah. Yeah, that's uh. That is

(01:59:57):
that is magnificent. That is a that is a cent
is a great draft story. I didn't know that. Oh man,
he is Jeff Schwartz. I'm Dan Bayer. This is Fox
Sports Sunday. Get Jeff on Twitter at Jeff Schwartz You
can find me on Twitter at Dan Buyer on Fox.
That's it for us. Let's do it again soon. Jeff,
thanks man, take care of a great week, everybody.

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