Dan Beyer and Kerry Rhodes talk Caitlin Clark and the NBA Finals!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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(00:29):
four days away from Game one of the NBA Finals
between the Celtics and Mavericks. As a Mavericks fan, are
you enjoying this long layoff because you get to savor
the Western Conference Final victory? Or is it like, let's
just get this stupid thing going already.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
You know what the first the first one that you
just said, yes, you get a little time to get
a little time to save it, get it a little
time to rub it into the people, rub it in
their faces a little bit. The ones that didn't believe
that we would get to this point. You know, I
got some friends that before this thing even started. I
call it the finals. I said, the Celtics versus the Maths,
and people are like, your nuts, and my buddies were like, man,

(01:08):
ain't no way that Mavericks are making it to the finals.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
And here we are.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
We've reached the culmination of good basketball, good vibes, and
now we're in the finals.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Man. So it's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
It really is a good matchup for the NBA. And
I've heard some conversations and people say they don't know
about the matchup, but I do think it's if you
were to pick a matchup at the start of the playoffs,
probably would have been a top three matchup that you
could have chosen if you were the NBA.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
So it should should.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Be really really good with the Mavericks in my mind,
actually being the draw over the Boston Celtics something that
we'll get into later. We'll get into this Celtics Mavericks
series in about twenty minutes or so. But everybody's talking
about it. They're still talking about it. What transpired a
little less than twenty four hours ago, the flagrant foul
on Caitlin Clark of the Indiana Fever by Kennedy Carter

(01:59):
of the Chica Sky, then the aftermath of what happened
the postgame press conference, Angel Reese, you just heard Isaac
say ended up being docked one thousand dollars for not
being available. Yet she has now become a major part
of the story because of her actions and her responses
to the hard fouls that were delivered to Caitlin Clark

(02:21):
and the Indiana fever. And it's funny because I was
on the air about an hour after this all happened,
and then the postgame show came, the postgame interviews happened,
and we were playing some of those back, and then
I had a chance to kind of sit on this
carry and I feel like any rookie has some sort
of Hazing's not the word, but you have to go

(02:42):
through some sort of ritual to be right. All pass this, yeah,
right of passes, perfect, perfect phrase. And now it's gotten
to the point where I think it's gone too far,
and I think many people feel that way, and it's
one of those things you know when you see it,
and I felt that that was the fo yesterday that
was committed on Caitlin Clark by Kennedy Carter, Like we've

(03:04):
gone We've gone too far now in terms of where
we are and trying to have Caitlin.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Clark have her right of passage in the WNBA.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's gotten to the point of
borderline obsession with trying to be the one to break
Caitlyn Clark, and I think that's where it's heading to
right now, and until the w NBA steps in, or
Matt for the matter of fact, her teammates step in
to show that they're with her and their ride with

(03:35):
her and have some type of loyalty to her being
on their team in an organization. Obviously obviously she's new
and she's trying to you know, integrate herself into the
locker room and into this, into the w NBA. But
it's it's it's it's time for her team and her
organization to step up and you know, stand in front
of her and say that we got her back and
go out there and be physical back with those other

(03:57):
teams and show that they have some backbone and some
adoration for their teammate, because it's getting to point now
where she seems like it's Caitlyn Clark against everybody. And
I don't mean just her opponents, and I'm not mean
her teammates as well, which is crazy. Yeah, that's kind
of where I am with it. They need to come
out in next game they play if that was to

(04:20):
happen again, like retaliate, there needs to be some retaliation.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
And I know it's not It shouldn't come from her.
It should come from the people around her.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
It's funny because Angel Reeves had made comments previously on
about a week or so ago, and she took a
hard foul against the Connecticut Sun, and I felt that
she was she was referencing Caitlyn Clark in all of that,
saying like, it's not because I'm a rookie, it's because
I'm a player in this league, and you know I
bring that sort of stuff on. That may be fine

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and all as you're battling under the hoop, but this
was a blatant, direct, cheap shot hip check that may
not have been as violent as something that you could
get under the under the hoop, but it sure seemed
about ten times more blatant. And then to have Kennedy
Carter refuse to answer any questions about it tells you

(05:12):
all you need to know, Like that that's of this
is a there there is jealousy. There may be uh,
you know, hates a pretty strong word, so I don't
want to say that, but there is, there is, there
is extreme.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Animosity, and then it was magnified.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
I felt like this story actually and and some people
were on it earlier, but this story really took the
turn to the point of that you point out of
where are her teammates?

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Oria Boston did not sprint to get into.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Kennedy Carter's face as Katelyn Clark was was sitting on
the ground. And we've seen some of this stuff before
of other teammates maybe not being there, And that's what
then tells you that it is Caitlyn Clark against everybody,
because it even seems that some of her own teammates
resent what has what she has brought to the league.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
And she talks trash, you know, she does.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
She'll give you know, she'll she'll give you a little
of this or that, but none of that is warranted
to the level of I think what she's received so far.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
Yeah, the trash talking is part of the game. There
are a lot of people that talk trash men's and
women's sports, right, but a lot of that times a
lot when you can't do anything to combat the game
and combat what they can do on the court. It
resorts to being physical, it resorts to doing the things
that don't really win you games. So it becomes not

(06:30):
nonsensical when it comes to that stuff.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
That's the other part of it is, to be quite honest,
it's not like she's tearing the league up right, no where,
you know, like where, So that's where, you know. That's
the other layer to this is if she was scoring
thirty to a game and no one was stopping her.
That's one thing. She had eleven points yesterday exactly, and
and maybe there would be an argument of, yeah, you

(06:53):
try to cut off the head of the snake, you know,
because the balls in her hand a lot.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
The offense starts with her, you know.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Then why isn't happening around you know, other spots in
the in the w NBA. Why why isn't happening with
other players? Why why is Angel Reese being hugged by
her veterans and vice versa When Caitlin Clark is lying
on the ground or hard foul is committed, yet no
one will help up Caitlyn Clark on her own team,

(07:20):
like there's Angel Reese is obviously fit in well with
her teammates.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
I look at Caitlin Clark's teammate at.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Iowa, Kate Martin and fitting in with the Las Vegas Aces,
like you see this all the time. And granted she
doesn't have the star power that Caitlin Clark has, but
that's what it is.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
It's jealousy.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
And if the w NBA really wants to do something
about it, I think you have to start suspending players.
And I thought it was I thought it was ridiculous
when the point was brought up a couple of weeks
ago that the w NBA needs to do something to
make it easier on Caitlin Clark, because I think then
you're rigging the system. That wouldn't be that wouldn't be fair.

(07:57):
But you have to stand up for your members. You
have to stand up for your players. And if Kennedy
Carter was docked a game check because of a suspension,
she makes sixty four thousand dollars this season for the
Chicago Sky, you dock her a paycheck, it's fifteen hundred dollars.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
That's what that's what That's what it would be.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
Now again, if you're only making sixty four thousand dollars
in the season and you're playing forty one games.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
That's a pretty big deal. I don't think they you'd
be seeing cheap shots anymore.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
I think it's time for not only is it the players,
maybe the other players in the league, but I think
the league now has to step in and do something
about this because it's really going to hurt your bottom line,
Which was another theme that I ended up seeing coming
out last night and hearing from a bunch of people
of like, Hey, I watched the WNBA.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
This stuff keeps on going. I'm not going to watch
it anymore. Yeah, I think people are getting fed up
with it. I do want to switch it up for
one second and throw this and throw this at you though, Dan,
I really want to know if she feels, if Kaitlin
Clark feels so alien right now that she's not allowing
or interjecting herself in the locker room in a way

(09:06):
that she should. And I'm just throwing this out there
as a spend for why her teammates aren't shown up. Hope, hope, hope,
hopefully having some type of levity around the situation, situation
where is she doing everything that she can to fit
her fit in that locker room and give herself that
grace with her teammates because she's already felt alienated.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
I want to know if there's.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
Another layer to that story, right, like, because she doesn't
feel loved, she doesn't feel you know, brought in with
open arms. Is she eliminating herself from that locker room
and putting herself in the corner where she is alone
or standing alone in these fights, because that would be
another question, because it's if it's not, then it's blatantly
just it's just a terrible, terrible place to be in

(09:48):
for And I would like to know that that question.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
You know, I think that you need also, you need
a veteran to.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
Bring them in in that sort of way and to
help show the rope exactly. And you haven't seen that. Again,
I don't know what goes on behind those those you know,
closed doors. We saw a little interaction when Caitlyn Clark
had sprained her ankle and she was late from her
press conference and one of the players was kind of
giving her the business, But we don't know that. It

(10:18):
surely appears that her and e Leah Boston are not
the greatest of pals. If a Leah Boston isn't running
to her aid and I just have even felt that
in interactions and seeing and watching the game where because
she was the number one overall pick the previous year,
you know, and these this is heck. Caitlyn Clark knock
South Carolina out of the NCAA tournament, gave Eliah Boston

(10:40):
her you know, in her final game, that loss of
the final four. So there could be animosity. I told
you beforehand, it's been thirty years since I've played any
high school sports. But if I played against saw some
of the guys that I played against, I would not
be like, hey man, what's up? I would there was
still would be animosity towards that. And I think that's
the case with Caitlyn Clark. I'm not saying that she's

(11:01):
absolved of anything else. I just think it's difficult for
a rookie and everything that she has brought in to
to come in and try.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
To, I don't know, be one of the girls.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
I don't know if that's I think it's it's on
the veterans to be able to provide an atmosphere where
she feels welcome, welcomed, not maybe not favoritism of the
other league. But I think it's on the other the veterans,
the other veterans to be able to do something.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
I agree.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
Yeah, it happens in every sport where you have a veteran.
I mean speaking to myself in particular, right, I mean,
I'm not the same gravitas as a Kitlyn Clark coming in,
but and not trying to put myself on that level either.
But you come into a situation where I come into
the Jets and I have a veteran like that the
way you're speaking of, somebody should be able to be

(11:50):
there for Kitlyn Clark. I had Curtis Martin and he
was there and you know, he just taught me to ropes,
taught me how not to do certain things, how to
put myself, you know, right in that locker room with
the guys and be one of the guys to start,
because you have to have that. Doesn't matter where you
end up, doesn't matter how good you are as a rookie,
it doesn't matter. You know, at the end of the day,
you might be the player to year in that league.
But if you don't win over your locker room guys

(12:13):
and let them know that you're in this with them,
it's going to be a problem. And so that's why
I asked that question about is she giving herself that
grace and putting herself in a situation to you know,
be humbled and be humbled and be in the situation
where these girls feels like she's one of them as well.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
And that would only be one part of the story
because the other eleven teams in the league are not
in that locker one hundred percent, So it would be
this is why her teammates aren't coming to her defense. Yes, well,
then why does every single team ever beef with her? Yeah,
Seattle Storm, La Sparks. Obviously we knew the Chicago Sky
game was going to be of interest because of the
Angel Reach drama, and it's just it's really difficult to believe.

(12:53):
And by the way, before we wrap this up, I
do want to get the thoughts of our crew here
because I think that there's so many different tentacles to
this story. But the Angel Ree Caitlin Clark drama has
gone on for the last couple of years, you know,
for the last you know year plus because of their
matchups in the NCAA Tournament in the title game. A
little more than a year ago in a leade eight

(13:14):
this time around. But you know, Angel Reese, in losing
that game against Iowa, ends up playing the victim and says,
people have no idea what I've gone through, and I'll
tell you what to try to to try to shed
a different light on who you are. It sure seems
like it's the same old Angel Reese as before. If
you're celebrating someone's downfall, right, Isaac Lohankron is at the

(13:38):
news desk, what is your takeaway from the actions that
we saw in that fever Sky game yesterday.

Speaker 5 (13:43):
I think this is the greatest thing ever and I
am all here for it because we are a national
radio show in the middle of the NBA playoffs, albeit
between the conference finals and the finals. But the lead story,
and it's a great, delicious story, is the w n
b A. Now, when was the last time that the

(14:04):
w n b A has been a lead story on
national sports talk radio before this year? So I think
it's it's great, uh for the w n b A.
I mean, controversy is still publicity, sure, So I hope
this w w ELI drama continues throughout the season. And
I'll bet you the people in the League office, while

(14:27):
they can't say it publicly, are silently high fiving each
other and say, hey, let's continue this stuff because it's
great theater and I'm here for it.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
If then if they would take my Rod, who would
be right in the face of what Isaac is saying.
If you start suspending players for their actions, no one's
going to be want to missing want to be missing
those game checks. So that would probably curtail what Isaac
is loving about the w W E, n B A.
How whatever you want to, however you want to, you
want to place it. I will say this and and

(14:56):
and want Bow and christawayne as well. I said yesterday
that there's always an initiation period, right of passages you
talked about, and when you look at the NBA, you
talk about the Pistons and what the Pistons did and
Bill Lambier, and you know, thirty years after the fact,
Bill Mbier still doesn't have any remorse, or thirty five
years from the hard follows that he delivered the Boston

(15:19):
Celtics or Michael Jordan or anybody else, that is who
they were. But that's one team trying to find an
identity in a world where there is a Jordan. There
is a magic there is a bird for sure. Yeah,
this is an entire league against one player, which I
think makes it a little bit different.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Bo Benson.

Speaker 6 (15:37):
I think it's good, honestly for the WNBA. I saw
a few tweets that were like, this is you know
you want to be a league like the NBA. Well,
this is part of the NBA, so this should be
in WNBA. Her teammates need to look out for. I
hope that what comes of this mostly is better audio
equipment for the postgame press conferences so that we can
actually hear some of the sound that comes out of it.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
I think they set up shop in a locker room. Yeah,
that's where the sky. We gotta we gotta get into
the actual press conference rooms. Get these ladies in stever,
give you a podium. But truly they put up a
table because you could see a cubby or a locker
on one of the camera angles next to Kennedy Carter
and you're like, what are you doing? Like this is
this is you don't You're in an NBA arena. You

(16:21):
can't set it up in a way where you have
the fever have their own podium. It's set up and
but but to his point, also, then a lot of
the video we see is from the reporter on the side. Yeah,
not the straight on shot that's plugged in with clear audience.

Speaker 6 (16:34):
And like to echo what Isaac said, like, I love
that we're talking about the w NBA as a father
of a daughter, Like, it's cool that she's gonna be
able to grow up and hopefully have this league on
on days where she can sit down and why we
can watch the games together. It's cool to have that.
So I'm glad for it.

Speaker 7 (16:48):
Chris Purfett, So, I have two sisters, both of them
played field hockey, the younger of the two a lot
more field hockey. Uh, to the point where when offered
to play women's lacrosse, she said no because she can't
check anyone.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
She likes violence.

Speaker 7 (17:04):
So seeing the w NBA embracing the hits and everything
something that I think, you know, I I find it
fascinating kind of what we do in that that past
you talk about, the Bill Mbier past. The past of
physical men's basketball is so valorized and romanticized by certain

(17:26):
sports fans out there, but that this becomes an issue, No,
I love the I love the physicality of it. I think, maybe, yeah,
there's her teammates do probably need to have her back
a little bit more. But Dilo's point, we're talking about it,
and it may it may look ugly at points, but
it is it. It amplifies the drama of what we
are watching, and that sells sport more than anything else.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
If Caitlyn Clark takes a hit and tears a ligament
in her knee, because somebody wanted to take a cheap shot,
how's how's that good for the game?

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Won't be good for their product? Then let me know.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
And let's let me rephrase something that said earlier. We
said something about those girl. I want to say those women,
they are women, So let's make sure we put that
out there. But no, if she gets if she gets
hurt and you take away the gold and Gulston, of
course that league would be in shambles again.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
And so you don't want that.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
And the other part is I understand like the physicality
of it, but nobody else is taking shots like that.
Angel Reese did take the hard foul. I admit that
I do feel that action is different on the block
around the hoop than it is when you're just in
the backcourt trying to imbound inbound something that's exactly what
ended up happening. And Angel Reese's shot was probably more

(18:35):
vicious than what Caitlin Clark took yesterday. But it just
felt that yesterday's shot was so unnecessary and was so
targeted that the foul on Angel Reese could have actually
have been any power forward or center on.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
The Chicago sky in that aspect. For sure.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
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see Kyrie back in Boston or the possibility possibility? I
know you're a Mavericks fan, but the possibility of seeing

(20:27):
buddy of yours, Kris topsperzingis back on the court for
the Boston Celtics.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
Oh, this is a hard one for me picking this final.
I had this this vision, you know, obviously of Kyrie
going back and I've been to Kyrie fan as well,
I mean since since his day is at Duke, So
I mean I've seen him play since Dan and I
just knew then that he was a super special talent.
All those things that have materialized to be true.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
And by the way, it was days at Duke because
he was injured half his own that's right. He can't
say months, that's right. It was like days, that's right,
that's right.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
And seeing them there, and then you know, obviously being
a Dallas fan and getting the whole Porzingis thing happened
to trade. He comes in and I'm so excited for
the combination of Luca and Porzingis. I'm like, it's it's
dirt two point zero and there's no way that's not
going to work out. And then it, for some reason
doesn't work out. But the idea of him leaving, going
to get himself right and becoming this version of himself

(21:24):
which seems mature and humble and having humility in his
new role, and the dynamic that kind of exists with
the same thing with Kyrie, right, having some i think
being humbled and having some humility come in his situation.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
That's some growth.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
And so both stories are so juicy and so different,
but they all come and stem from.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
The same place.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
Sure, people that have been at a certain place, humbled
in that place and having to leave and reinvent themselves
in different places. And the fact that the culmination of
that story ends up being in the NBA Finals against
their former teams. It's just crazy. So it's hard to
pick one. But obviously it's got to be the Kyrie thing.
It's such a big deal.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
I think the Kyrie thing is the story, and I
also think it's a story because I don't know if
Porzingis plays. I don't think that he does. To be
honest with you, I just don't. You've got maximum seven
games left in your season. At some point there's got
to be some ramp up and for and I know
the road that they travel to get here was made

(22:23):
easier because of the injuries that the other teams ended
up dealing with Donovan Mitchell, Jimmy Butler, most recently Tyree's Halliburton.
It's not to say Boston wasn't the better team in
you know, each of those series, because they were, but
it made life a little bit easier. You just don't know,
all right, do we really need Christops Porzingis, and I
just don't think that there's a way to incorporate him

(22:45):
over these final two weeks of the season and these
seven games to make it work where it would be
worthwhile without risking serious injury to the player. And and
I know, like you bring in Christops Porzingis to win
an NBA championship and you're in the NBA Finals, I
just think it actually has does more harm than good

(23:07):
to the other players in trying to figure it out
a way to incorporate him.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
Yeah, it's hard. I know we talked about this last week.
I felt it may have been two weeks ago, but
I felt that they were talking about he had a
possibility of coming back in Game four against the Pacers,
and the fans are like, no, he said, wait to
the finals, and I thought, I'm the same.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
I'm with you.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
I thought they should have played him if he could
have played and had a little, you know, like you said,
a sort of a ramp up towards the finals to
get back, you know, into the flow with the teammates.
And you know, it's it's hard to bring somebody back
in the thralls of.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Competition the way they are right now.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
So it is tough and not to not I'm just
gonna use Derek White as an example. But if if
Derek White was the one who was hurt and Chris
Stops Porzingis was the one who was playing, I actually
think it's probably easier to be like, all right, we're
gonna keep Derek White out because I think the Celtics
do need size, especially with Lively and Gafford, and even

(24:03):
more importantly on the defensive end of just having someone
there of that stature, especially if Kyrie and Lucy getting
to the basket. So that's why I also think it's
it's a bit of a dilemma because they do think
that the Mavericks will be able to take.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Advantage of the lack of size that Boston.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
And even on top of that, in the regular season
when they did play, Gafford was unplayable because Porzingis stretches
them so only offensive end. It brings out that shot blocker,
which in the series in OKCE and Minnesota, Gafford and
Lively were able to sit in the paint because of
Rudy Gobert, right, And so that's why a lot of
the analysts were saying they needed to play small to

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have a chance to win.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
It was true.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
And so with Porzinga's on offense with Boston, you're able
to play that five out. He can go in the
post and he can score. But when you play the
five out, it gives their offense a dynamic that they
don't have right now, and it makes Dallas Biggs not
be as big of a down lowis Fogs being able
to block shots, and that's a big deal.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
He's carry roads.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
I'm Dan Byer face of the NBA discussion coming up next,
but first let's jump over to the news desk. Guysy
glowing crowns with us love from the tierrec dot com studios,
giving us the news from the w NBA and so
much more today.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Indeed, that's our top story, Fellows.

Speaker 5 (25:17):
The w NBA announcing this morning that after review, the
league has retroactively upgraded the away from the ball foul
to the Chicago's Kennedy Carter Committee yesterday on Indiana's Caitlin
Clark from a common foul to a flagrant foul penalty
one For Kennedy Carter's part, overnight, she tweeted, and I

(25:38):
quote we grown as f and y'all talking about enforcer
laughing emoji man g T f O h hoop or
shut up dot dot dot dot unquote. No word yet
on what g T foh stands for, but I'm guessing

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it stands for gee that foul obviously hurt anyway.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
The WNBA.

Speaker 5 (26:04):
Also find Chicago's Angel Reese Oh sorry the WWE NBA,
as Dan Byers so accurately.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Termed it earlier.

Speaker 5 (26:13):
Also find Chicago's Angel Reach one thousand dollars for failing
to make herself available to the media after yesterday's game,
and find the Chicago organization five thousand dollars for failing
to comply with league media policies. Let's find out if
the Chicago organization had any comments.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
I'm here so I don't get fined.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Oops. Sorry, press the wrong button there anyway.

Speaker 5 (26:37):
In Game six of the NHL's Eastern Conference Finals on
Saturday night, the Florida Panthers defeated the New York Rangers
two to one to win the series four games to
two in advance to the Stanley Cup Final for a
second straight season, where they will face either the Edmonton
Oilers or Dallas Stars and coming up tonight at eight
pm Eastern Edmonton will host Dallas in Game six of

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the Western Conference Finals, with the Oilers leading that series
three games to two. Finally, in Major League Baseball on
Saturday night, Aaron Judge of the Yankees it is major
league leading twenty first home run in their seven to
three victory at San Francisco.

Speaker 6 (27:12):
Dan and Carrie back to you.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
Thank you very much, Isaac. Two bits of house cleaning.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Number one.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
The reason why Carrie submitted a retraction earlier when he
said girls tell a story, why did you make sure
that you wanted to say women and not girls.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
I just don't want to respect I don't want to
disrespect that women.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
No, no, no.

Speaker 4 (27:35):
My mother is listening to this show and she said,
you do not call those girls girls. There are women.
And I was like, they're women, mom. So that was
the reason that I changed it up.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
My mom likes to send in texts and tell me
like she disagrees with my take. You know, she's just like,
you're an idiot. No, she doesn't say that, by the way, Carrie.
Carrie just liked to tweet from Pat that said watch
the game tape, Caitlyn Clark isn't as clean as you're
trying to portray. I don't think we're trying to portray

(28:06):
Caitlyn Clark is being clean by any stretch of the imagination.
She does talk a little here and there. For sure,
she's complained with the officials. We saw it in college,
we see it in the NBA when she got teed up.
But there is a difference when someone is zeroing in
on you on an inbounds and just trying to take
you out. If Kitlyn Clark's having beef with the officials,

(28:29):
I don't think that has anything to do with what
the Chicago Sky are dealing.

Speaker 4 (28:32):
Yeah, I mean there can It could be a hard file.
We talked about it. You've talked about like Angel Rees
being hard, you know, getting the hard files and saying
she loved it as basketball, And that can happen during
the play that was of Blakant.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
She doesn't even have the ball. She's being targeted in
that situation.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
All right, face of the NBA conversation now picks up
here Anthony Edwards not the guy, and now Luka Doncic
in place. Did you think the whole conversation was comical
of of the NBA or do you just think it
was too soon that people were crowning Anthony Edwards because
my whole take on it was this was face of

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the NBA.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
You just you know it when it's there.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
And and honestly, until Lebron retires, he's still gonna be
face to the NBA. I don't care if there's a
seventh seed and nine seed, a ten seed, not me
in the playoffs, right, he's gonna be the face of
the NBA. But once he ends up moving on, it's
all right. Who carries that torch? And I think it's
more of a matter. Here's why I don't mind the discussion.
I just put I'll put it that way because you

(29:32):
know who isn't And so if you are having a
discussion who is or who maybe then they're in the conversation. Sure,
But for like for the NBA finals, Jason Tatum not
gonna be the face of the NBA.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
Just not gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
And yeah, there's you know, the other great players, Jalen Brunson,
for as great as he is, he's not gonna be
the face of the NBA. But Anthony Edwards was showing
so much and so much promise at such a young age.
You're like, this could be a candidate. This could be
you know, Luca. Luca's had that label for years and
he could be the guy, and then they kind of
fall off and you're like, well, maybe he's not going

(30:08):
to be that guy if he doesn't end up coming through.
And now it's back up to that point. So I
think Anthony Edwards has the possibility. I think Luka Doncic
has the possibility. It's who's the next greatest player in
the NBA or the best player in the NBA could
be Victor wamban Yama for everything. I just we know
who isn't right, and we are still trying to find
out who is. And that's why, like, I'm actually okay

(30:30):
with the conversation.

Speaker 4 (30:31):
Yeah, the conversation just it makes me laugh a lot though,
because for me, I take into consideration. So I will
say this, it's two parts of this, right, So be
in the face of the NBA. Obviously, you got to
be good and you have to win a lot and
you have to do certain things right there. There's a
criteria that goes along with your playing ability to be
the face of the NBA.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
And when you.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
Start saying this guy is the face of the NBA
in the midst of a run which had which hasn't
been completed yet. It's just it's lunacy when I think
about it, because again, you can win that round, in
the next round, you look human, and then we're having
a whole different discussion right where Anthony Edwards the first
two rounds looked phenomenal and you're like, man, he might be.

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Then you come into this, into the conference finals, and
he just looks kind of normal, still good, but normal.
And then I think the other part of that is,
and the reason why Anthony was probably been put in
that spot is because his personality.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
People want to hear from him.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
People want to know what he's doing, People want to
know the next thing he's gonna say, right, and so
he fits all the molds.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
So I do understand why.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
But it's since we live in these in this prisoner
of the moment situation where we want to anoint the
next big.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
Thing and be the first one to do it. That's
fair and so that part.

Speaker 4 (31:48):
But yeah, I mean, when it comes to the face
of NBA, man, it's gonna materialize in the way that
it should. And if you win, like Luca has that chance,
I still don't know if he'd be the face of
the NBA because of the language barrier. So it's it's
just so many different factors.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
That going to play with it. You are correct in
that matter. It is a conversation that isn't just a
Johnny come Lately. I think in the past we looked
at it, who's going to carry the torch? That's how
we ended up looking at it. And I do think
that there are two similar things because you knew Larry
Bird was at the end of his career in the
late eighties early nineties with his back problems, and Magic

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obviously wasn't going to be playing tons of years. And
then you had the HIV diagnosis, and there's Michael Jordan,
you know, you know, ready to take that torch from
Bird and Magic and carry carry it himself for the
next decade plus. And then he had Kobe's great success.
And it's so those conversations have happened. That's nothing new.

(32:45):
But to your point, we weren't saying it in nineteen
eighty six when Jordan was scoring sixty three points. We
were like, that's pretty amazing. Look at Jordan's sixty three.
You know, they lose the series and lose the game
of the Celtics, you know, like but at that point,
like there's something where I don't think we were having
that conversation at that time, but maybe that's your you know,

(33:07):
arrival moment, if you will. But we weren't saying, all right,
he's gonna be the face of the NBA. There's still
levels that he had to get to.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
And then one more thing when that and one more
thing on that. It's like there's so much parody in
the NBA. Now it's gonna be guys winning here and there,
and you may win one and you may not win again.
And so is it gonna be solely based off the
championships and what you do as a winner or is
it going to be the quotes that you say? And

(33:33):
I think that conversation ships all this stuff. I'll tell
you the other big one.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Healthy.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
You know, who's gonna be able to actually stay healthy?
And you know Jordan early in his career when he missed,
you know, the time of this broken foot, you wouldn't
have maybe at that point you'd be like red flag.
Remember you missed that, you know most of that season
because of his of his foot right, And now health
is much more bigger much more bigger conversation, topic of
conversation when you're talking about guys in there their lasting

(34:02):
image in the NBA. He's carry Roads. I'm Dan Byer.
We are alive for the tier raq dot com studios.
All right, we're gonna shift gears. We actually are going
to talk NFL because one NFL coach said something this
week that sounds great. I just don't believe a word
of it. He's carry on, Dan, that's next year on
Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Sunday.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
I'm Dan Byer. He's the all Pro. Carry Rhoades with you.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
Still a few days away from Game one of the
NBA Finals and still a few months away from the
start of the NFL season, but there was some NFL
news carry Yeah that surfaced earlier this week. Ota is
taking place hearing coaches talk, players talk, and one of
the coaches that spoke was Lions offensive coordinator Ben Johnson,
who was a hot candidate during the coaching cycle where

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there were eight vacancies in the NFL. He in fact
was still alive up until about the final two vacancies.
The Seahawks and the Commanders had not made their hires
as of yet, and then Johnson ended up with drawing
with the Seahawks, and then the commander's contingent was actually
on their way to Detroit to speak with him and
Aaron Glenn and Johnson ended up dropping out. So here

(35:09):
was Johnson explaining on why he chose to stay in
Detroit as the Lions OC in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 11 (35:16):
Okay, eight openings this past year. What would you set
the over under how many still have jobs? I would
say there's a good chance five of them are out
of jobs in three years. I love what I'm doing
right now, love it, love, I love where I'm at,
my family, loves where we're at, love the people that
we're doing it with, and so I'm not willing to
go down the other path yet unless I feel really

(35:39):
good about how it's going to unfold.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
All right, there's do you like that comment for Ben
Johnson on why he decided to stay with the Lions.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
I do.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
I think it's if it's true, it sounds good, it
makes it's half true.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
You're right, it makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
I'm sure there was some negotiation stuff that took place
that he didn't feel good about at some of those places.
But again, if you know, if his ultimate goal was
to be a head coach. You want to be a
head coach, you're probably gonna take a job, right, Yes,
But if there's some that family element of it, if
there is truth around that, I could see that also
being a plausible a plausible situation.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
So I think I agree with you.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
I think it's half truth, and the way that he
said it, I would be okay with that response.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
All right about you, Dan, I'm gonna let Chris Prefet talk,
but you have to keep it short, Chris, because we
got to play the other piece of the audio and
I got something to say.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
What do you got?

Speaker 7 (36:39):
So definitely there was some falling out that happened with
the commanders. I think we know that considering the back
and forth they had. But also at the top of
it too is like he's thirty eight. I think sometimes
you're rushing these I mean, to his point, I think
we're rushing these coordinators too fast into a head coaching position.
And he's at an organization that famously has someone who
has no coordinator background as the head coach. I think

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he understands a little bit the difference and the jump
in and the difference and skills between coordinating versus head coach.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
Yeah, that's very fair. I agree with him that his
family probably loves Detroit. I love the Midwest, you know
I do, And that may be fine. But when you're
a coach, there's a coach's family and there's rules that
go along with it. You know, you're not going to
be in a place for thirty five years. You're not

(37:28):
going to It's just it's not going to happen. He
would not be the first coach to take a job
elsewhere and his family not necessarily love it. So I
appreciate if he is taking his family's consideration into the decision.
But what's the difference between now and say, twelve months
from now, or what would be now eight or nine
months from now if you're a coach?

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Just not much different.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
What I thought was interesting was the first part that
he said about you know, hey, I want to get
to that second contract. Eight of these coaches? How many
are going to be fired? Four or five of them?
When you look at the actual vacancies, there's there's there's
interesting stuff on who was vacant in what jobs were vacant,
and which ones weren't. Justin Herbert quarterback of the Chargers.

(38:12):
Jim Harbaughs his coach. I don't think that job's going
to be vacant because they have a quarterback. Washington didn't
have a quarterback at the time. They had the second
overall pick, the Seahawk, said Gino Smith. The Tennessee Titans
have Will Lovis second round pick. The alunt of Falcons
at that point weren't in on Kirk Cousins. There was
free agency wasn't happening. There was no quarterback there. New

(38:33):
England was gonna have a top pick, but it wasn't
number one overall. The point being is, I think Ben
Johnson wants to go to a place where there's a quarterback, yeah,
and a quarterback in place, And maybe you can't say that,
but that's where I think why Ben Johnson didn't necessarily
take any of the jobs. Do we got the last
bit that we could play from quick Chris just just

(38:53):
in what he said, maybe we'd just I thought there
were two cuts? Did we playing back to back?

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Are we good? Yeah? Back? Okay? There it is, so
there there. I thought there was another cut.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
But that's the that's the point of it of if
you're Ben Johnson, you want to go to a place,
and I think he gave Seattle an interview because I
think he felt John Schneider in that front office were stable,
that there was the possibility. But I think in the end,
you're like, all right, who is my quarterback? Isn't gonna
be Gino Smith? Are we gonna be bad enough to
draft the guy at number two and number three? Had

(39:26):
a bunch of good quarterbacks in this draft, as we
saw Jaden Daniels and Drake Mago two and three. But
maybe he's not enamored with it.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
I just think that that is probably the place, uh,
and the reason why Ben Johnson said what he said
and did what he did, that the vacancies that were
available just weren't quarterback friendly, except really with the Chargers,
and if they had their sites set on Jim Harball,
you're not getting that job. That makes makes makes a
lot of sense.

Speaker 4 (39:52):
I think as a OC and coming from a situation
where he had a stable quarterback and a quarterback that was,
you know, competent enough to run his offense the way
that he wanted it, to go to a situation where
that didn't exist would probably be less desirable.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
So yeah, it makes sense.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
To me, and I know the Panthers were in on
him and he shunned them in twenty twenty three and
did again in twenty twenty four, and who knows. The
jury's still out on Bryce Young, so we'll have that discussion.
He's Carrier Roads. I'm Dan Byer, live from the tierrach
dot com studios. The Mavericks are the headliner in the
NBA Finals. Who would have funk it? The gift that

(40:29):
keeps on giving, not Caitlin Clark and the drama and
the WNBA, but the drama in the NBA. And something
that was said on this network twenty four hours ago
still seems pretty irrelevant at this minute.

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(41:05):
just like you and I are Kerry here, and there
had been something that's.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Been on my mind, and it's been on my mind
not just recently.

Speaker 12 (41:13):
I've thought about this over the last few years in
where we look at brands in sports, NFL, Major League Baseball,
and in this case, the NBA, because I was just
astonished at how the Golden State Warriors brand had evolved

(41:33):
over what is now the past decade where there was
a point where the only thing that I remember people
talking about the Warriors were run TMC and maybe a
few Baron Davis highlights that we believe team Yes, that
was it, like it was buried in the Bay Area.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
Is how I felt about the Golden State Warriors for
a majority of my life up until Steph Curry becomes
Steph Curry, Steve Kurt takes over and they're off and running,
because even when Mark Jackson was there early, Steph wasn't
Steph at that point. It was really when Steve Kurt
took over and Clay became who Clay is and Draymond
is Draymond and now the Warriors are are this brand

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that I had actually felt had risen as high as
number two in the NBA, that I felt that their
brand was so popular that they were a topic of
conversation no matter what, that they were only behind the
Los Angeles Lakers, and that then told me, well, then
if the Warriors moved up to two, who fell, Well,

(42:39):
the Bulls had their run, and I think in the nineties, honestly,
they were probably more popular than the Lakers. Maybe the
Lakers ended up dropping a spot, but you also have
a team like the New York Knicks that were popular
and popular in the city, and we saw how crazy
things can get when the Knicks are good. But the
Knicks were bad. The Knicks were bad for a long time,
and they that cachet didn't end up carrying over. And

(43:03):
then you had the Boston Celtics, some would argue the
most storied franchise in the NBA, And honestly, them and
the Lakers playing off each other was the starting point
for how I got to thinking about this because I
just thought it was so amazing that I could hate
both teams in the NBA finals when I was growing
up in the eighties. But it was true because I

(43:24):
hated the Celtics and I sure sec didn't like the Lakers,
so I really didn't care who won in the NBA
finals because I didn't like either team, and they ended
up playing in eighty four, ended up playing in eighty five,
they ended up playing in eighty seven, and it was
just all right enough. And this is forty years ago,
but so now here we are about to enter fast
forward to present day June second, twenty twenty four, and

(43:47):
we go into an NBA Finals where that story franchise
of the Boston Celtics is playing second fiddle to their opponent.
That isn't the Los Angeles Lakers, that isn't the Golden
State Warriors, It's the Dallas Mavericks. Sorry, the Dallas Mavericks
are the draw in this series. People are not tuning
in to go and watch Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown

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and the Boston Celtics. They may be in Massachusetts, they
may be in Maine, in Vermont, New Hampshire, but the
rest of the country is not enamored with the Boston Celtics.
And in fact, I would argue that outside of the
two thousand and eight championship with Paul Pearson, Kevin Garnett
and Ray Allen, that for about the past thirty five
to forty years, no one has been enamored with the

(44:30):
Boston Celtics. That they have fallen into not a Johnny
Come Lately. But their brand is not the brand of
the NBA, the true brand of the NBA. And I'm
sorry Celtics fans, the Lakers are the brand of the NBA.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
It is not the Boston Celtics.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
And if you need any evidence, just look at who
the main draws of this NBA Finals, because it's not
the team in Boston.

Speaker 4 (44:53):
Man, this is a layered conversation, and everything you said
is pretty accurate. I think when you talk about just
this Finals as a whole, as a whole, as this brand,
you're talking about Dallas being the story going into this
into this final. I think the reason they are the
story in this final is because of the tie with

(45:16):
the Celtics stuff. So I think there is a combination
of both of those being true. I think Dallas is
the story with what they can do with the dynamic.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
Duo going in Luca's first Chance.

Speaker 4 (45:27):
But I think the biggest story with this game is
you know, Kyrie going back to Boston, which the Boston
tie is still there, and then you have the young
Guns and you know Tatum and Brown trying to kind
of elevate the brand back into that light that we've
talked about before, which you just elekally very eloquently to

(45:47):
state it. I think, so I think the tie is
still there with Boston.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
I think with.

Speaker 4 (45:53):
The brand of the NBA and how that goes, I
just think it's we live, we don't live in the
revisionary laying when it comes to talk about the Celtics,
talk about the Lakers of the eighties and and how
you know beautiful that story was and how Magic and
Larry and those guys competed at an all time level
where that story even you take that story back even

(46:15):
and stuff further, just them too as being able to
evolve the brand of the NBA as a whole, those
two coming out of college playing each other in the finals,
So having that history there and you take that to
the next level where those two are competing with two
of the most story franchises and franchises, and obviously it
raises it up to a different level. But when you
talk about like current brands, and I do think you

(46:37):
do have to say Golden State is up there now
and has surpassed Boston in that in that conversation, but
now Boston being back there and having a chance to
win it again. It just kind of makes this story
come in this roundabout way where it can be Boston
again at the top of that change.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
So you think that there are ties, and there are ties.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
I just don't think that the country cares necessarily that
Kyrie is going back to Boston.

Speaker 12 (46:59):
You know.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
No, I think that Boston cares that Kyrie's going back
to Boston. And I think that that, you know, in
a porzingis angle, I don't think carries the weighty. The
Mavericks are the Mavericks because of Luca and that is
the draw in the NBA Finals and having a star
player and it it's not meant to be an indictment,
but it does tell you that Jason Tatum and Jaylen

(47:20):
Brown are not up to that level, and especially when
you compare it to Celtic greats. And I don't even
want to use the success of the Celtics in this
scenario to pinpoint it. When you take a bad Lakers team,
the Lakers were still the story. So the Lakers have
been the story. You can rattle off crappy players of

(47:43):
the Lakers, but there was still a story because you're like,
how is this team going to get back when are
they going to bring in the stars. When's the glitz
and glam, you know, going to be back? And yeah,
it may be cosmetic, but that's what branding is, and
that's what the Lakers are. There are some there, some
bad Celtics teams that made no waves whatsoever. At least

(48:05):
when you reminisce the Lakers passed, you can laugh and
look back and say the Lonzo Ball days, Yeah, smush Parker,
those those names, the Nick van Exel years, like those,
in no disrespect to Nick van Xel had a solid
NBA career, but it pales in comparison to obviously the
Shaq Kobe Lakers and the Magic Johnson Lakers. But those

(48:27):
teams are still Lakers teams that we're talking about. When
the Lakers weren't good, they still had Kobe Bryant. They
were still a story, you know, in his later years
playing Boston. Like I remember going to a Celtics Bucks
game and I don't know, maybe ninety four ninety five,
and like Dino Rajah was the best player that I'm
watching on the Boston.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Celtics, you know.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
Like, so you want to talk about fall off and
then you look about at the what they've got in
terms of championships again, one since nineteen eighty six.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
One that's it in two thousand and eight.

Speaker 3 (48:57):
Yeah, and so while I may not believe that the
championship is that legit, there was two thousand, two thousand
and one, two thousand and two, there was two thousand
and nine, then there was twenty ten. So you know,
so with all of that, it just the Warriors may
fall off when Steve Kurr and Steph Curry end up
moving on, they're not going to do the same. Maybe
like the Bulls. We'll have to see right right, right,

(49:19):
But the Lakers are always a part of that conversation,
and I just don't think that the Celtics are. And
for a league that I think so for so long
was held up by the Lakers and the Celtics, and
when you look at their history, seventeen championships, the big rivalries,
I just feel that the Lakers have carried more weight
in being that brand of the NBA that it's not
a two it's not a two horse race, it's a

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one horse race with the Lakers leading it.

Speaker 4 (49:41):
Yeah, I mean, I hear what you're saying with the
brand part of it, and It's funny because obviously Boston
is one more Steell in this in this time right now,
in this timeframe obviously because of being to the conference
finals and being in the mix, I think there's one games,
not championships. But yeah, it's exactly so we're talking about
the brands. I think I think the conversation is what

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does the brand mean? It's the brand just about the
talk aesthetic like you just said, or is it winning
and being in the conversation every year for being the
best team, Because that's two different conversations, obviously, and I
think that's where I'm getting a little, I guess a
little having a little subjectivity as far as the Lakers

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being the brand, because if it wasn't it wasn't for
Lebron right now, they wouldn't even be in discussion either.
And so I think it falls on being the brand
of Lebron and not the brand of the Lakers, And
so I would differentiate the two between that.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
I did extend an offer to one.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
Steve Hartman and Monte Milanos yesterday had carried on this discussion.
Steve has declined. Monte adrenas in just a little bit,
Steve bo Benton may be biased as a Lakers fan,
Where do you stand on this topic conversation that we've
had over the last twenty four hours here on Fox.

Speaker 6 (50:55):
The Los Angeles Lakers, as bad as they may be
and have been overall in the past what twelve years
or whatever, they at least have the decency to win
a title every decade. And like I have their record here,
they won the finals in twenty ten over the Boston Celtics.
Then their low point was a seventeen and sixty five

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season in twenty five, twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, and then
in twenty twenty they won the NBA Finals. So like
in all that golf, they still won another finals before
the Boston Celtics did, and I think before the Celtics
even got back to the finals.

Speaker 4 (51:32):
So is there anything bo with the you know, sustaining
of excellence?

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Does that matter to you at all?

Speaker 6 (51:38):
I mean, it'd be ideal, but like winning is the
name of the game. What ticks me off a little
bit is if the Lakers had the regular season success
that the Celtics have had over the last few years,
but didn't win a championship the way the Celtics haven't. Yeah,
you'd never hear the end of it, because the expectation
for the Lakers are different, and I don't want to

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hear about the Celtics in the same tier as the
Lakers if they're not getting the same expectations and the
same criticism for not finishing what they're supposed to do.

Speaker 7 (52:07):
They do get a lot of that criticism, though I
think this isn't a cowboys situation. I just I feel like,
at least for the NBA, there is we were allowed
to have a duopoly of two teams that are the
top ones here. This isn't are the Lakers bigger than
the Celtics or the Celtics bigger Lakers.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
They're like when I had.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
Than the Celtics would as a kid, was the NBA
first Lakers.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
It was.

Speaker 7 (52:32):
It was Lakers versus Celtics. It's always been Lakers versus Celtics.
I would always been.

Speaker 6 (52:36):
I would like to see criticism of the Boston Celtics
for not winning the title, because I don't see it.

Speaker 4 (52:40):
No, no, no, there is criticism of them not win
the title. I mean that's what not these two are
being you know, I did I disagree, I don't.

Speaker 6 (52:47):
I don't see any not to the degree that the
Los Angeles Lakers get criticism for anything.

Speaker 4 (52:51):
They're like not even given Dayalen Brown third Team All
All NBA because of them not being able to win.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
Danny and now Brad Stevens. And they've done great jobs
and keeping their teams competitive and putting teams together, but
they have lived, specifically Danny Ainge, She's just lived off
of the two thousand and eight championship almost as much
as Doc Rivers has.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Yeah, you know, in terms.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
Of of for what they've done in the moves they've made,
and by the way, they've made great moves to the
point where we're like, why is anybody doing a deal
with Danny Ainge? Like that was a thing in the NBA,
but you weren't getting rings and titles with them.

Speaker 6 (53:25):
Can you guys imagine what the radio and TV would
look like and sound like if the Los Angeles Lakers
with Lebron James and Anthony Davis had lost to the
eight seed. Ever, like the Boston Celtics have recently, Like
losing to that Miami Heat team is geez.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Sure, yeah, yeah, and I get that.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
And there with you know, Celtics fans, O Connor will
be like, well we are you know, we're not bad
enough to be a seventh seed, or you know we're
the one seed. That's why we can lose to an
eight seed. But it's even at the lowest of low's.
I still think that the Lakers are a conversation. When
the Celtics are at the lowest of lows, they disappear.
Here Now, Manzi Milonios, who was side by side again
Steve Hartman, has declined an invitation to join us because

(54:09):
apparently it took over part of your show yesterday. You
sided with me on this Is this what happened?

Speaker 2 (54:15):
Mancy?

Speaker 13 (54:15):
I confused on the first part, but yes, I can
confirm the second part that I sided with you.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
Steve Hartman is do you know that I don't know
if that mic has ever been turned on? It's hot.

Speaker 14 (54:31):
You can hear me on your mic.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
We knew we'd get him in, but Manzi has the floor.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
Did you do you think that the Lakers are the
biggest brand and that the Celtics have fallen off?

Speaker 1 (54:42):
That's my argument.

Speaker 13 (54:44):
I didn't even think it was anything really to discuss until.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
That man brought her. She's new school, that's yeah, Twitter, And.

Speaker 13 (54:50):
I think also Steve kind of like was taking it
a little differently than the way you were trying to
explain it, And I was like, I don't. I think
Dana is saying, like, in big picture, it's the brand,
like the Lakers name is still thriving, it's still great
despite the not great success they've had in recent years.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
Steve Hartman, you will be able to tell Steve's got
something up his sleeping.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
Something that is exactly he's looking for. That is exactly,
that is exactly. The point that was that was made.
Was the point that the point that Manci was making
Steve that you didn't hear because we were in a
different studio, was that I was talking about the brand. Uh,
maybe not the greatness, but the actual brand. Just like

(55:33):
the Dallas Cowboys are the top brand of the National
Football League, that the Los Angeles Lakers are the top
brand in the NBA.

Speaker 14 (55:40):
All Right, They're a brand because of Lebron James.

Speaker 9 (55:42):
It's like people saying, you know, it was I was
at that fever game. Like in LA recently, there are
a lot of fever fans here. There are no fever
fans or Caitlin Clark fans are no fever fans, the
Lakers without Lebron's say yeah, have no relevance. It's a
franchise over the last eleven years that has missed the

(56:04):
playoffs completely seven times, two first round exits, a blowout
four games sweep in a Western Conference finals, and an
NBA championship in a bubble that no one saw look
at the ratings, is right in the middle of the
NDVFL season. So they But I mean, we say this
about the Dallas Cowboys, a team that hasn't been to

(56:25):
a conference championship game since the mid nineties, right, and
still they're in the conversation. They're in the conversation because
of Jerry Jones. The Lakers are always in the conversation
because of Jerry Bust. The Celtics were in the conversation
because of Red Auerbach, the Yankees in the conversation because
of George Steinbrenner. And so when those icons are gone,

(56:51):
you're no longer relevant. The reason we still talk about
the Cowboys is Jerry Jones is the reason that we
talk about it.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
Dallas Yankees, they're no longer relevant.

Speaker 14 (57:00):
How are they relevant? Arson Judge? They haven't won a
World Series since oh nine? No, they don't have the
same buzz. There's no buzz.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
There's no buzz about baseball, like there's there's no buzz
about baseball.

Speaker 14 (57:12):
I know there's buzz about Shohey Otani.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
Oh that's buzz about Judge this year too, though in
that in.

Speaker 9 (57:17):
That case, the bottom line is is that for the
for the Lakers in the post Jerry buss era has
been a catastrophe by any measurement, especially if you're a
Lakers fan. They had only missed the playoffs five times
ever until he died, and now they missed the playoffs

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seven times.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
Since I'm not coming in here improving my point.

Speaker 3 (57:40):
But that's why we're still talking about the Lakers like that,
we still talk about them. Nobody knows who Wick Grousbeck
is outside of New England.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
Nobody has any idea. Look, they don't.

Speaker 9 (57:51):
I am a lifelong Laker fan and Celtic cater. This
goes back to the nineteen sixty nine NBA Finals when
I was in fifth grade and I couldn't believe the
Lakers lost that series. With wil Chamberlain and Bill Russell's
final season, but the idea that the Lakers are more
significant than the Boston Celtics in the moment.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
That's why I'm with you. I'm with you on that one.

Speaker 14 (58:14):
How how are they more significant?

Speaker 9 (58:17):
Only the only argument is, well, they have Lebron James
and we got Rich Paul orchestrating the obvious signing of
Browny James.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
This is this is garbage.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
I mean, it's on star power, just like Hollywood.

Speaker 14 (58:32):
Is I like that? Like this?

Speaker 9 (58:34):
The Chiefs are relevant because they're winning championships. That's kind
of relevance I'm looking for.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
I mean Patrick Mahomes, Yeah, he's star player as well.

Speaker 9 (58:43):
So right, and you think anyone would care what Harrison
Bucker is saying if he wasn't the Chiefs kicker, if
he had been the Jacksonville kicker, would that have gotten
any mileage at all?

Speaker 1 (58:53):
Of course not so.

Speaker 9 (58:54):
When you win championships, when you become a dominant force,
you are in the conversation. Right now, the number one
brand in the NBA is the Golden State Warriors.

Speaker 14 (59:04):
I had to look this up yesterday.

Speaker 9 (59:06):
And yes, the Lakers were number two, But in my
mind they have no significance unless they're actual true contenders
to win a chance.

Speaker 3 (59:14):
On that Bleacher Report article, how many slideshows did you
have to get to when you finally got to the Celtics, because.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
It was like click next, next, next, next Again.

Speaker 9 (59:23):
I'm not arguing that the Celtics have no significance.

Speaker 14 (59:28):
I'm arguing with your point, Dan, that.

Speaker 9 (59:30):
Somehow the Lakers like still control the narrative in the
NBA because.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
We don't talking about who they're going to hire.

Speaker 14 (59:38):
I'm not talking about him until.

Speaker 8 (59:42):
Today.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
They didn't turn out my mind fight one times.

Speaker 9 (59:45):
And they are like, all right, and they hired JJ Reddick.
Is that because he's committed to call the NBA finals?
Is that what they're holding off on so he can
do the rest of the finals.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
So yeah, good talks Steve in today.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
Is he going to be joining us as well?

Speaker 9 (01:00:00):
Richie's always just keep this distance, all right, Steve came
in hot.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
You asked for it too, So see did I did?
I thought it was I thought it was only fair.
I saw a tweet about it yesterday night. I had
no idea on that it became such a.

Speaker 14 (01:00:13):
We have a long history and I think you crossed
the line this time.

Speaker 8 (01:00:18):
Ah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
There he is Steve Hartman, a host of The UH
Steve Hartman and Manzi Blaios shows Saturdays on Fox Sports
Radio and host of the Steve.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Hartman and Rich Ornberger Show Sundays here on Fox. And
you got what you ask for that one they did
I did.

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
Thank you very much everyone participating these Carry Roads Final
to make Carrie twenty five Roads. You can find me
at Dan Bayer on Fox. All right, I'm no longer
in the hot seat. Carry Rhodes will be in the
hot seat. You know what's next, easy as one, two
three four Here on Fox Sports. Fox Sports Sunday. He's
Carry Rhoads. I'm Dan Biri, are live from the Tirec

(01:00:52):
dot Com studios.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
This is what we're gonna do.

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
We're gonna get an update from Nazi and then we're
gonna play easy as one, two three four. It is
a busy Sunday. Little tennis, little baseball, a lot of golf,
a little hockey going on, no hoops. With no hoops.
Ye had a little bit of hockey Western Conference Finals tonight,
Game six. We could have our we could have our
Stanley Cup Final finally settled. One team is waiting. It's

(01:01:19):
the Florida Panthers and now it's down to the stars
and Oilers, Edmonton can close it out with a win tonight.
Let's jump throw it over to jump over to the newsroom,
throw it over to the news desk with mants and Blanios.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
But by the way, we'll also be a lifeline to
you and easy as one, two, three, four.

Speaker 13 (01:01:34):
I mean you already know I.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
Don't do it care and go elsewhere.

Speaker 13 (01:01:43):
Yes, Dan, you are right. These stars are going to
have to keep their season alive tonight for Game six
of the West Final in the NHL. As Edmonton leads
a series three to two, the winner is going to
face the Florida Panthers in the Stanley Cup Final. We
got a full slate of baseball games, and one is
already underway. Twins at Astros. They've already split the three

(01:02:03):
game series and the Twins already off to a hot start.
Trevor lar Nick with the leadoff homer, So the Twins
up one zero against the Astros. But they really just
got going in this one. And we have a full
slate of baseball. Let's move on to the French Open.
World number two Carlos Alkraz. He won his fourth round
match in straight sets. He becomes the youngest player to
reach the quarterfinal stage at Roland Garos in three consecutive

(01:02:25):
years since Novak Djokovic did. Back in two thousand and six,
Coco Golf also onto the quarterfinals. After her fourth round
match she wanted in straight sets, she finished at three
a m.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
And she said that that.

Speaker 13 (01:02:37):
Is not healthy. After so the night matches start like
at eight o'clock local time, but there was some sort
of weather delay and it pushed everything back.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
She ended at three am.

Speaker 13 (01:02:47):
Novak Djokovic ended at three oh seven local time, and
they're like, we have to figure out something better. And
I yeah, imagine ending at three am a competitive match.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Get out of here. I know, it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
I turned it on when Djokovic was play and I
went to the tennis channel and they were playing in
the doll match and I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Like, well, this isn't it. So it wasn't about like
Peacock or something like that. But yeah, but I'm.

Speaker 13 (01:03:08):
With her on that one for sure. Let's move on
to the WNBA where the leagues that have to review
that they are going to upgrade that foul that Kennedy
Carter from Chicago committed away from the ball on Indiana's Kitlink.
Clark to a flag girl one penalty one. She's not
going to be fine, but the League is going to
find Angel Reese one thousand dollars for failing for failing
to make herself available.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
To the media.

Speaker 13 (01:03:29):
They're also going to find Chicago the organization itself five
thousand dollars for failing to comply with league media policies.
We do have some golf, the RBC Canadian Open, but
the leaders are not teen off just yet. Maybe in
about an hour or so. Robert McIntyre in the lead,
fourteen hunder par overall, Ben Griffin four shots back, tied
along with Mackenzie Hughes and Ryan Fox. Back to you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
A quick story that's taking a little buzz on social media.
Fluff Cowen, who was Jim Furick's long time.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
Time caddy Tiger was Tiger Woods's caddy when Tiger won
the ninety seven Masters, bluffs up there. An agent fell
on the third hole today and was unable to continue
caddying for ct PAN. So they've just grabbed a guy
from the crowd.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Yes, so there's a video. There's They took a spectator who.

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
I'm sure probably said I have some caddying experience or something.
But so yeah, so this spectator is gonna be caddying
for ct Pan, who I played with at the Farmer's
Insurance Pro am a few years back. The gott lead
myself and Rodney Harrison where with ct Pan as our
pro and we ended up doing pretty well. But yeah,
this fan ended up having to take over. That's right,

(01:04:33):
you're an excellent golfer.

Speaker 4 (01:04:36):
I've heard it for three straight weeks now about Dan's golf.

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
We're gonna make this the distal hitting streak. We're just
gonna pop up every single time. All right, let's get
to the game. Monte Milanio's Bo Benson and Chris Profeeder
all lifelines for Carrie Rhodes as he tries to strike
a perfect score of ten and easy as one, two, three, four,
I give carry a topic. He doesn't have to give
me all of the correct answers, just some. The perfect
score is ten and the over under today is seven

(01:05:02):
and a half, seven.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
And a half.

Speaker 4 (01:05:03):
Okay, all right, as MASSI laughs already, I'm so nervous.

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
Three basketball, one NFL. That's what we've got, all right.
Name one of two expansion teams that came after the
Dallas Mavericks joined the league in nineteen eighty. So the
Dallas Mavericks joined the NBA in nineteen eighty Who were
the next two teams to join the league immediately after that?

Speaker 4 (01:05:29):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
Immediately?

Speaker 3 (01:05:29):
Yes, name one of two teams that joined that were
the next expansion teams. And I'll even give you the year.
The year was nineteen eighty eight. So what two teams
joined the NBA in nineteen eighty eight? Ooh, you hat
a lifeline do you have?

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
I mean, I know there are no expansion teams. I
know some of those teams.

Speaker 4 (01:05:51):
I'm just trying to think of eighty eight, um, because
I know the Bob Katz and the Pelicans. That's later sometimes,
So I'm trying to figure out that time front. I
think I'll go I'll go with Bow on this on
the on the NBA stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
Let's see what.

Speaker 6 (01:06:07):
Uh, Vancouver Grizzlies.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Okay in Toronto later?

Speaker 9 (01:06:12):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:06:13):
I was in middle or in elementary school, and everybody's
wearing Raptors stuff. And I was in elementary school in
the nineties, So I don't think that's the case. I
would venture I guess maybe the Timberwolves, what about the.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
What about the the Bucks as well? Because they know
they moved from the Bugs.

Speaker 6 (01:06:31):
Kareem, Yeah, yeah, I would Vancouver's got to be one
of them. That's got to be. Maybe maybe the Timberwolves
as an expansion team.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
But I'm not sure what Manzi's shaking her head.

Speaker 4 (01:06:42):
She has this this squint that says, no, no, I
don't know that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
I don't think that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:47):
I I know Steve Hartman though, I know that for sure, Steve.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
I think actually Steve is stumped here.

Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
He said that eighty eight joined the NBA in nineteen
eighty eight.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
Man, Dan, do you want to just give me a guess?

Speaker 4 (01:07:09):
Yeah, just go, I mean, I'll take I mean Vancouver
and okay, Vancouver.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
Is that gonna be your final answer? Sure? All right?
Nobody knows is it Vancouver? It is not? That was
mid nineties, Yeah, eleven, Toronto came in the league.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
The two Canadian teams, Yeah, Charlotte Hornets, well, I said,
the Bobcats don't Yeah, Charlotte yep.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
And the Miami Heat well, my favorite Charlotte. I would
have had one.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
Man actually shocked. Miami was that late?

Speaker 4 (01:07:34):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
What was what was unique was in nineteen eighty nine
because they had four teams expand, but they did two
and one year and two and the other in the
next one where the Timberwolves and Magic in nineteen eighty nine,
So that's where Bo was.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
It was close to it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
So that's probably your toughest one. So again it's just
the first question, but that doesn't mean it's the easiest. All right,
Name two of three former Celtics players to have their
single digit uniform number retired by the team outside of
founder Walter Brown. Single digit? So who wore single digits

(01:08:06):
for the Boston Celtics that had their number retired by
the team. And again, I'm not here to trick you guys.
I'm not here to trick you guys. Single digit, Yes,
So Larry Bird thirty three work.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
In this scenario.

Speaker 3 (01:08:24):
Single digit former Celtics players outside of founder Walter Brown.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
Oh, I'm gonna go with Chris. I'm gonna go with
Chris on this one.

Speaker 7 (01:08:33):
I can give you one very easy thanks to my
grandfather was a Celtics fan, Bill Russell.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
Number six.

Speaker 4 (01:08:39):
Yep, that's one, okay, So Bill Russell, what was what
was Paris's number?

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
Was it was he double digit? What was he single?
I can't remember the number?

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
Jet I can't write Paris. Paris just kind of goes
right over my head.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
Is Steve Hartman there yelling in the background? Is he
give me one read that? There's a mic right behind you? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
Is he part of my lifeline?

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
He keeps saying number three at me. Yes, let's see,
all right, Steve Hartman.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
Number three.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
He's just sitting down and he just gave me number.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
Three and number three, all right, show me number six,
Bill Russell, Yes, and show me number three. Dennis Johnson
there it is, Yes, I know Dennis. And again, in
not trying to fool you guys, Kevin Garnett is just
number five.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
Doesn't realist I didn't realize KG had his number.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
Yeah, that's that's pretty amazing.

Speaker 6 (01:09:39):
But yes, we should set it up where if Carrie
learns how to read lips, Steve Hartman can be a
life I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
Through a dark glass to like and there's a little
art reflecting. Yeah, there's a like I can't even see
Chris his face. I'm looking right at him, but I
can't see him.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
The light of God here starting midment in the back,
I'm like, what is that? All right? Name three or four? Teams?
Jason Kidd played for during his NBA three or four.

Speaker 4 (01:10:03):
We got the Mavericks, We got the nets, and we
have the did he play with us, Sons or nats?
Played with the Suns? We got the two, We got
Mavericks nets.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
Steve is up.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
Okay, that's that final answer, Sons, final answer. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10:25):
Show me the Mavericks obviously drafted by the Mavericks and
then return and won a title with them. Show me
the Phoenix Suns traded by the Mavericks to the Phoenix Suns.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
And show me the nets then New Jersey Nets where
he went to two straight NBA finals. Yes, yes, as
their point guard in the early arts. I knew that one.
That was a good one. That was all right, you
are back on track.

Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
I was rolling through five points now and you get
three of these, you've hit the.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
Over under, come on, get all four of them. You
have a very respectable score of nine. All right, name
four of five NFL teams that have appeared on any
version of HBO's Hard Knocks on multiple occasions.

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
Multiple occasions, multiple occasions.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
Why you got multiple?

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
That's that's I assume you mean any version of Hard Knocks.

Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
That's when I yeap when I said any version of
hard Knocks on multiple occasions.

Speaker 4 (01:11:21):
This is what I do not know. I'm gonna go
with MANSA. You got you got something, you got multiple versions.

Speaker 13 (01:11:26):
Multiple versions. I feel like we can probably process of elimination.

Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
Here, like the big I'm gonna guess.

Speaker 13 (01:11:33):
The Cowboys multiple Yeah, like you know what I'm saying, Like, yes,
that one.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
We'll take that one. Okay, the Jets, I'll take the Jets.

Speaker 14 (01:11:43):
Yes, yeah, the Jets is a good one.

Speaker 9 (01:11:46):
Uh.

Speaker 13 (01:11:46):
Just the Cardinals were recent? But were they a part
of it before?

Speaker 4 (01:11:50):
No?

Speaker 13 (01:11:51):
Okay, so eliminated that one. What about the Bears they're
coming on?

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
No, okay, the Rams.

Speaker 4 (01:12:01):
We'll go Rams. So we'll go Rams and Rams. Okay,
Cowboys Cowboys? Yeah, yeah, yeah, just one more, one more, multiple.

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
Times, multiple times.

Speaker 4 (01:12:12):
I know the Dolphins won't last. Were they multiple Chris Perfett, somebody.

Speaker 7 (01:12:19):
I I want to I don't think it's the Giants.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
I don't think we have to think.

Speaker 6 (01:12:26):
Dan is always tricky with the way he words multiple
versions of hard Knocks matters, I believe. So I'm trying
to think of who did the end season so in
season this past year was Dolphins. Yes, so it's maybe
it's like the Dolphins or was that the Colts that
did the nd season the first time? Colts one of those.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
I don't think it was. I don't think it was Dolphins. Colts.

Speaker 6 (01:12:49):
The Rams are for sure one of them.

Speaker 13 (01:12:51):
What about the Ravens. I just feel like they were
They've been popular, you know, up and down over a
long period of time.

Speaker 4 (01:12:57):
They did the old school when when they had the
d to read and right, Yeah, but did they do
one recently?

Speaker 6 (01:13:02):
I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
We're going to Colts might be the answer.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
All right, let's go, We'll go Colts. Chris is confident
with the Colts.

Speaker 3 (01:13:09):
Show Me the Dallas Cowboys three times in fact two
and two, twenty eight and twenty twenty one, show Me
the New York Jets twenty ten, and then last season
with Aaron Rodgers in twenty twenty three, show Me the
Rams twenty sixteen, and then in the COVID year they
did a combo of the Rams and Chargers in twenty twenty.

(01:13:29):
You hit the over if you have a score of nine,
is it the Colts? No, it is, sorry, the Miami Dolphins.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
I said I that too. Remember when Joe Philman had
to cut o Jo Sinko.

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
Oh god, that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
Yes, yes, I said that too.

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
Mas should have stuck with my gun and then the
other one, the Cincinnati Bengals.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
Yeah, twenty nine and twenty thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
I have completely forgot about those Bengals hard.

Speaker 3 (01:13:55):
Most people have forgot about the Bengals entirely until Joe
Burrow came around.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
Right, all right, very good, very good. Thank you for
the tight day.

Speaker 3 (01:14:02):
Carry Roads gets eight. Hit him up at Carrie twenty
five Roads. You can find me at dan Byer on Fox.
It's the unofficial start of summer. We are now past
Memorial Day. What is on your summer plan list? We
unveil ours next year on Fox Sports Radio. You who
bottle rolling on the floorboard these Carry Roads.

Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
I'm Dan Byer.

Speaker 3 (01:14:21):
It's Fox Sports Sunday, and yeah, the unofficial start of summer.
Once you get past the Memorial Day weekend of the
more Memorial Day holiday, schools out in a lot of places,
still some that are gonna have to go over the
next couple of days. But summer is basically here. And
I thought, Carrie, let's have some summertime fun. We have

(01:14:43):
a great crew here. Chris Burfette bo Benz and Monte
Milanos help us put this show together. Let's make a
summer to do list. So we were all tasked with
coming up with three things that we want to do.
And here's the only caveat when you do them, when
you announce these, if you accomplish this this summer, you

(01:15:06):
gotta talk about it on the show. So we've got
like fifteen to do list things for the summer. How
many can we actually cross off if we each have
three of them? So if you accomplish one the next
time we have the show, gotta let us know and
we're going to talk about it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
Carry out.

Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
I give you the floor the three things that you
want to do in the summer of twenty twenty four.

Speaker 4 (01:15:28):
The three things that I want to do in the
summer of twenty twenty four. Man, it's number one. I
have to get my next single done, all right, So
I have to get that done, and well, I know
we'll finish after we get all three. And then number two,
I want to make sure I get a family trip
in this summer, the summer we'll talk about. We'll expand

(01:15:51):
on that later also. And then the third thing, I
want to finish my documentary idea that we talked about
last week.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
So three big things are very employ to me.

Speaker 4 (01:16:01):
And I'll elaborate on which one I want to elaborate
on after everybody else give their responses.

Speaker 3 (01:16:06):
So, and it should be noted in there to work
one fun like he's got to work that he's a
working guy. So he has one fun thing that he
wants to do this summer. Family trip. Manzi Bolanos, you
were tasked with this your three things you want to
do this summer.

Speaker 13 (01:16:21):
Listen. The fact that you think I could have three
things to do this summer is super cute. Since I'm
here literally all day every day. I have one big one. Okay,
one big one. As you know, I am going to
run a half marathon in September.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
Actually I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:34):
I did tell you this.

Speaker 2 (01:16:35):
I don't play with another man that doesn't listen to.

Speaker 13 (01:16:41):
So during the pandemic, I used to do these a lot,
especially at Disneyland, and during the pandemic they were like,
we know, we have to cancel the Star Wars Marathon
half marathon. If you want, you can still subscribe and
we'll send you the medal. And you don't even have
to prove that you've done it. So I did it
and I never ran it. So I'm actually trying to
on one on my own before the one I'm actually

(01:17:03):
joining in September. Alright, So before September, I'm trying to
do my own half.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
Marathon Maxi's half marathon.

Speaker 14 (01:17:09):
Before September September, my actual.

Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
One, gotcha, that's actually a pretty good one. Yeah, that
would take up three I would do three miles, five miles,
and eight miles and those would.

Speaker 4 (01:17:17):
Be my.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
Chris perfect.

Speaker 7 (01:17:21):
Yeah. So I think the first fun one for me
is uh. I as much as I've lived in California
now for about like god's close to seven years, I
haven't been up to the north.

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
I would love to go to Monterey. I love aquariums.

Speaker 7 (01:17:33):
I'm wanting to do a road trip to the Monterey Aquariums,
and I told myself, I want to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:37):
Is there.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
That's with a Grell spot.

Speaker 7 (01:17:40):
I think on the work side of things, my podcast
got put on ice due to complicated reasons. I would
like to get a new venture going at some point,
be it YouTube or anything like that Lost Weight on
my half got It or a YouTube Who knows. The
third thing is can I just say clean just really

(01:18:00):
really makes some a really nice meal at some point,
like really expand my I know this is kind of vague,
but expand my cooking repertoire. Do five new recipes that
I have not tried.

Speaker 3 (01:18:11):
All right, five new recipes absolutely perfect, bo Benson.

Speaker 6 (01:18:15):
All right. Number one, I want to get some Texas
barbecue at some point. If anybody has rex, let me know.
Number two, I want to uh go on a date
with my wife without my child.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
Challenge I will, I.

Speaker 6 (01:18:29):
Will, I will take an hour without my child next
to me.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
There you go.

Speaker 6 (01:18:34):
Number three, I want to go to Vegas.

Speaker 4 (01:18:35):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:18:36):
Producing the wonderful Countdown to kickoff shows here at Fox
Sporths Radio has given me the gambling itch.

Speaker 3 (01:18:41):
Right.

Speaker 6 (01:18:41):
I have some tickets to put in and a bonus
one just to make sure that we actually get one
cross off the list. I want to go see my
cousin play the No Values Music Festival next week with
his band The Untouchables. So I will be doing that
so we can cross I went off.

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
So yes it is. There you go.

Speaker 3 (01:18:58):
All right, We're all kind of connected here. I've never
been to the Getty in southern California. I could go, No,
I literally could go right now and be there and
have this off the list by eleven thirty local time
if I wanted to. But I've been here nineteen years.
I've never been to the Getty. That's one. I told
this one to my wife. She said, no way. I said,

(01:19:19):
go to an A's game in Oakland. So before the
A's movie, it's one.

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
I want to go to a game in Oakland.

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
Last Dive. We can all get Last Dive Bar wristbands.

Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
Yet hopefully it's not sold out. Let's just hope. Keep
that was a joke.

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
I can't play rim shots, and I've never smoked a brisket.
So yeah, so Chris did the culinary thing. I need
to smoke a briskete. I got, you know, on the old.

Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
Green Air smoke brisket either. That could be something we
do together the.

Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
Day long thing. We'll smoke our own brisket separately. Chris. Yeah,
I'll keep my hands on my meat. You do yours
your way, you smoke your own brisket.

Speaker 3 (01:20:01):
That was great, So again we're gonna keep our check marks, Harry.

Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
This was fun. It was always fun.

Speaker 3 (01:20:06):
We'll be back talking Game one the next time we're
talking to here on Fox Sports Sunday

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