Dan Beyer and Kerry Rhodes talk Eli Manning & the HoF, Michigan's scandal, and more!

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Class of twenty twenty four enshrining Canton speeches, everything wrapping
up yesterday, Now we look ahead to the Class of
twenty twenty five, and Adam Schefter could not wait, so
the final speech was given to type out who was

(00:45):
going to be first time candidates that were eligible for
the Hall of Fame. And the first name on that
tweet is the headline grabber. Because it was not done alphabetically.
The first name was one Eli Manning of the New
York Giants. And curious, since we're in the football mode,
is the Hall of Fame game happened on Thursday and

(01:07):
I just mentioned the ceremonies. Let's stick in that sort
of realm. Yeah, the debate I think now can ensue
from now until the NFL Honors Show in February when
the class of twenty twenty five is announced. But Eli
Manning hall of Famer? Does that sound right to you?

(01:27):
Does that sound off to you? Where are you when
it comes to Eli Manning's Hall of Fame status?

Speaker 3 (01:32):
When I hear Eli Manning hall of Famer, I just
think of inevitability. Inevitability, right, I think that's the word
that comes to mind for me, And I don't think
it's true. I do believe that obviously it will end
up taking place. But if all things were created equal

(01:54):
and fairly, which they are not in this world, I
don't think he would be And that's no.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
I think Eli's a great guy.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
I think he's won some big games, he sewed up
in some big moments, but over the course of watching
him play and being a peer of his for a
long time, yeah, I just don't. I don't think it
should be. But like I said, it probably it will happen.
You think it will, it will. That's and that's where
the onus is. And I think that's where we have
to start.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Is it's not as much of is Eli Manning a
first ballot Hall of Famer, Is he worthy of a
first ballot Hall of Famer. It's more of a plea
to the selection committee of the Pro Football Hall of
Fame to do what's right, to do what's fair. And

(02:44):
I think that we have gotten to the point a
little bit. You know, baseball is usually pretty pretty sticky
in terms of who gets in and who doesn't get in. Yeah, However,
over the last couple of years, there's been a little
bit more leniency. We've had younger voters that seems that
the old guard was very stringent and strict on who

(03:06):
they would want to allow in and who shouldn't be
allowed in. The Pro Football Hall of Fame voters different
story in terms of they are just there's always a
full class. There was never a point. We've had baseball
years where no one has gotten and no one has
reached that seventy five percent threshold. With the Pro Football

(03:26):
Hall of Fame, you have full class after full class
after full class where you're putting guys in because maybe
they didn't get in a few years prior and should
have been. It's it's just a I don't want to
say it's a free for all, because that's not the
right term. But they're maxing out every single year and
they're making sure that everybody gets in, to the point

(03:46):
where Dan Sanders is like, all right, we kind of
need a different wing of this Hall of Fame. There's
a Hall of good and then there's a Hall of Greats.
There is the real Hall of Fame, and you need
a different wing of that. And I think that's kind
of where we are with the Hall of Fame. But
when you look at the voters in what they are
about to do in voting, Eli Manning's name jumps off

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the board with this quarterback New York, two Super Bowls,
the whole deal. But it's almost like you have to
protect the field. You have to protect it for everyone
else because you're going to have names that are coming
in in the next couple of years. Drew Brees, Tom Brady,
those guys are first ballot Hall of Famers and you

(04:29):
have to separate the classes. And it's that reason why
I believe that Eli Manning will end up in the
Pro Football Hall of Fame at some point. He just
cannot be a first ballot Hall of Famer. If you
want to do this in twenty twenty six, or you
want to find a gap where there isn't a big
quarterback name, then go right ahead. But if you're looking

(04:51):
at trying to grab headlines, and because he is really
the only quarterback that would be up for twenty twenty five,
if you want to put his name there, that's for
all the wrong reasons. You can make an argument that
Eli Manning is a Hall of Famer. I have a
very difficult time making the argument that he is a
first ballot Hall of Famer.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah, there's no way he's a first ballot Hall of Famer.
That's just that would be asinine to be to be honest,
And again, this is not a shot at Eli.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Like I said, he's been.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
He was a very steady, good, good quarterback in the NFL,
and that's that is an accolade in itself. Then you
throw in the two championships, obviously, and then you throw
in who he beat to win those championships obviously. The
the graptas that comes with that, or the weight that
comes with that is you know, it's it's it's pretty high.
I think you know a lot of guys don't beat

(05:41):
that guy in the Super Bowls. But again, I think
The other argument with that part of the story is
how much on this and how much credit we give quarterbacks.
You think about that that team with the Giants didn't
win because of Eli. He made big throws in those games,
you know, to add on and to help that situation, obviously,
but both of those Patriot wins were they didn't They

(06:03):
didn't score over twenty four points in those games. They
weren't like high, high flying ELI putting up astronomical numbers.
And they won the game because of Eli. It was
a total team effort, that defense and that first one
against Brady and the way that they attacked Brady and
didn't give him any time to throw the ball.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
It's the reason they won that game.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
And Eli threw to the big touchdown at the end
the plexico obviously, which is exiting our minds.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
So it's always things on top of that, the thing
about the thing about the first Super Bowl, And by
the way, just for the record, ELI does have two
Super Bowl MVPs, so it's even MVPs of those games.
But the Tyree catch is amazing. ELI scramble is a
part of that. Yes, b Xico was wide open that
I feel like I could have thrown it to him.

(06:47):
I mean you had thrown it in, called it. You
could have thrown it, pumped it, see yourself and threw it,
called it.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, your career has crossed over Eli's. Yeah. How many
times did you face him face each other? Uh?

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Quite a bit? Uh a lot of times. They didn't really
count though. We always played that little that are interstate
rivalry in the pree in the preseason, so it really
didn't matter. But we played him a couple of times.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Now, if I gave you this list, here's here's the
first ballot, Hall of Fames. Let's take Eli off to
the sack. He's one of them. We're going to get
back to him because he's the main point of this conversation.
I'm going to give you some names and you just
say yes or the first ballot, not saying overall hall
of fame. All these players are worthy, I believe, of
consideration into the Hall of Fame. But I'm going to

(07:30):
give you. Tell me if they're first ballot, Terrell Suggs
first ballot, Earl Thomas not first ballot, Luke Luke Keikley
first ballot, Marshawn Lynch not first ballot, The keep to
Leeb not first ballot, Marshall Yonder first ballot, Adam Viniti.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
If there was a ballot before the first ballot, that
would be Adam Vannetier, like, no doubt about it, Yes
for sure, yes, yes, So you have Suggs, Keith, Lee, Yonder,
and Ventitarius first timers.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yes, and Eli not one of those. So that would
be four four of the spots. Now you also have
to consider who is left over from last year, and
there are different you know, there are different categories that
you put in. But Eric Allen, Willie Anderson, Jarry Evans,
Rodney Harrison, Fred Taylor, Jared Allen, Reggie Wayne, Antonio Gates,

(08:25):
Tory Holt, and Darren Woodson. So you have those guys
who have waited. Who pops out on that list?

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Well, Antonio Gates number one, Yes, absolutely, there's no way
he should in, being already probably should have been in
this past year. Yes, and then it's going to be
really hard for Fred Taylor as good as he is,
and he really is I think a Hall of Fame
running back, and eventually he probably will get there. The

(08:51):
fact that he's off I always look at him because
he's so talented.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
I play against him a little bit as well. And these,
by the way, we're the ten finalists for the induction
into twenty twenty. For there are fifteen finalists that you
have five get in, five get picked. These are the
ten remaining. So these were the ten remaining. So even
if you put Antonio Gates and you had those four full,
you know, four first timers, your classes is getting full,

(09:16):
like it's to that point. And that's where again where
Eli Manning I just don't think is up to I think,
of all of them, I think Terrell Suggs is the
no brainer of this of getting in. I could be
completely wrong, maybe Ed you know, Reid and ray Lewis
took up so much air with the Baltimore Ravens. But

(09:38):
Suggs to me was just such an absolute beast. And
I liked Earl Thomas. I think of Legion of Boom.
When you think of Richard Sherman being the the voice
of the Legion of Boom, when you think of cam
Chancellor being the physical nature of it, Earl Thomas was
really the make right and do everything. The crazy part

(09:58):
about what you're saying there. I think if we were
talking about the first four years of Earl Thomas' career.
I would say that and be very emphatic in the
same belief that you have. But I actually think that
Cam chencor is the better safety out of the two,
more complete and so you know, and and for so
Obviously it's a different style of play, But if those
two were up at the same time, and I don't

(10:19):
know if Cam's I don't know what that situation is,
but I see him as more of the sure the
solidifying force between those two. Where it's funny to me,
Earl was a seven time Pro Bowl, three time All Pro.
I know number you know safeties, Yeah, he's got no
safeties over here? Yeah, I say, Vinitary has got to
You have to put him in for I felt Devin

(10:40):
Hester needed to be in because of his specialty. Maybe
not first ballot, but you are talking about a kicker
who made some of the most clutch kicks we have
ever seen in the National Football League, whether it be
Super Bowl thirty six for the Patriots, whether it be
a couple of years later at Super Bowl What thirty

(11:01):
eight against the Carolina Panthers, that game winning kick. Those
are a part of it, let alone just the tuck
rule game and kicking a ball, threw it upright in
the middle of a snowstorm, like Vinitarry and the longevity
and then what's like, I think of all of the players,
like to your point, he should be the first ballot

(11:23):
Hall of Famer. But when you get back to Eli Manning.
Now we're talking about Eli Manning amongst these other players,
and that's what makes it so difficult. Bo Benson our
technical producer, and Bo, if you don't want to in
on this, you can weigh me off. But even said
before the show, he said, I saw your notes. I
completely disagreed with you. Oh yeah, he said, he said
he wanted to fight you before the show.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
It was weird. I really hated in here before it started.
It was a big deal bow would win.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Not because Bo is the best fighter at Fox Sports Radio.
It's just I'm never gonna win any fight I'm in.
I'm like I am the seventy six Buccaneers of fighting,
Like I will lose every single fight I'm in.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
But you'll look good with the jersey thought for sure.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yes, yes, you said that. It's a no brainer that
you feel Eli Manning is in.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
Yeah, I just I mean outside of all the stats
and everything, like the moments he was involved in in
terms of the NFL's history, Like I know exactly where
I was watching him escape the pocket and find Tyree
in the middle of the field, and I know exactly
where he was, uh, you know, throwing that perfect pass
to Plaxico in the end zone. And the second Super

(12:29):
Bowl against the Patriots, like the sideline catch by Manningham
Like a lot of it is other guys catching the ball,
but like Manning is the one making those passes, and
he won the MVPs. I just I think, I mean,
and he's Eli Manning. I just I think he's gonna
get in.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
I support. I support a lot of what Eli Manning
has done. Yeah, and I think I'm even on record.
Oh I know I'm on record because I've said Odell
Beckham Junior is not Odell Beckham Junior without Eli Manning.
Cause there are eighty five percent of quarterbacks in the
NFL do not have the guts to throw the football
to make the catches that Odell made. Eli Manning is

(13:03):
willing to make those throws. It's why he leads the
league in the interceptions. You know, the way he let
it three times during his career those are the reason
zaric quarterbacks that will not make that throw no matter what.
And if you don't make that throw, then Odell isn't
reaching back over his shoulder and bringing it in. It's true,
I'm sorry it is. But the stat portion of it
is interesting because Bo says he remembers all the moments

(13:26):
and he puts stats aside. I actually think stats are
in favor of Eli Manning. He threw for fifty seven
thousand yards in his career. Right now, that's tenth best.
Matthew Stafford's probably going to pass him this year. He's
tenth all time in touchdown passes. I know it's a
different era, but those things I think end up playing
into it. When you're looking at the list of Okay,

(13:48):
Hall of Famer, Hall of Famer, Hall of Famer, when
you're going down the list of yardage and then you
see fifty seven thousand yards and would you look at
the quarterbacks in the NFL Now, there aren't as many
that you think would be close to where Eli Manning is,
and there is a bit of a gap when you're
talking about passing yards after fifty seven thousand and fifty

(14:08):
three thousand. The funny thing is is the guys that
I think that we're debating with Eli, Matt Ryan, Philip
Rivers have all passed him in terms of yards. I
think that's the type of quarterback that we are talking about.
They don't they don't have rings, but they do have
the numbers that are comparable and even better than what
Eli Manning had.

Speaker 5 (14:26):
And I think the other yea, the other thing with
Eli too is I think that who he beat in
the Super Bowl matters. Yeah, okay, I think beating the
seventeen and no Patriots or the sixteen and no Patriots.
I think that matters because that saved a lot of
us from many years of grief of having to deal
with Patriots fans.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yeah that Chris Pherfet or technical producers.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
Building on that a little bit, and I'm going to
sound a little bit like some other guys I know,
but yeah, I feel that if we have cemented Tom
Brady as the unequivocable greatest of all time because he
has six rings, that he is the greatest as per
as an individual because of six team achievements with.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
His rings seven excuse me, geez, excuse me, I blank
the Tampa Is it going to change your statement? Here.

Speaker 4 (15:17):
But it does mean that when I see people saying, well,
it wasn't Eli, it was the defense. We can't have
one rule without the other. Eli has two super Bowl rings.
If it was just one out there, There's been plenty
of quarterbacks who stumble into a ring, be it a
Joe Flacco or a Trent Dilford. But Eli Manning and
an eight and four record in the playoffs still holds.

(15:37):
I think some playoff passing records here. And yeah, to
BOE's point, he beats two incredible Patriots teams and has
two Super Bowl rings?

Speaker 2 (15:48):
All right? Know how many others can really claim that?
All right, Chris?

Speaker 3 (15:50):
But to counter that point, when a defense plays really
good and a quarterback played well and they lost the game,
or say they lost close game down the stretch and
they didn't win the Super Bowl and maybe he just
wins one, these are just hypotheticals.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Is he still a Hall of Fame player?

Speaker 4 (16:08):
Well, I mean, let's look at his older brother, Peyton
Manning that second Super Bowl. Peyton Manning wasn't winning that
Super Bowl for the Denver.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
Bronco And we all know that, and we gave it.
You'll know that.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
But that's going into Peyton's legacy no matter what.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Sure, but we still remember how bad he was though.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
Yeah, but I guess my point is Eli wasn't bad
in those Super Bowls either.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
Two time MVP. Yeah. Yeah. Like then there's also the
point this is, this is the back and forth, and
this gets this gets to the main point. He's gonna
be a Hall of Famer, sure, but you cannot put
him in the first time. You think you cannot do that,
otherwise everybody gets in first time. I've heard people on
social media saying, well, Kurt Warner, Kurt Warner's in the

(16:50):
Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Kurt Warner was a.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
League MVP, yes, you know. And then and then what
they did was saying, like, Kurt Warner really only had
six good seasons, but he was in the Hall of Fame.
Tell you one thing that Kurt Warner wasn't a first
ballot Hall of Famer. And that's okay. You know why,
because we call Kurt Warner a Hall of Famer. Yeah,
it's just the level of Hall of Fame that we're
talking about. And if you let Eli Manning get in

(17:13):
on first ballot, then you have no other recourse but
to put all of these other quarterbacks in automatically and
then that lessons again the stature of what is first
time Hall of Famer. The numbers are there for Eli
again passing yards in touchdowns right now top ten in
the NFL. There are going to be very few quarterbacks
that have that are in the game today at least

(17:35):
have had substantial time in the MB and not talking
about rookie as the second year guys that could have
a fifteen year career, but like Stafford, Matthew Stafford is
at fifty six thousand yards will probably pass him this
year because he's only a thousand yards behind Eli for
overall yardage. The next two closest quarterbacks that are active
in the NFL to Eli manning and passing yards are
Joe Flacco with about forty four thousand and Russell Wilson

(17:59):
with forty three and a half thousand. And Russell Wilson
is not going to add I don't think you may
not even get the job in Pittsburgh now, you know.
I don't think that we're gonna see another fifteen thousand
yards from Russell Wilson in his career. Could be wrong.
I just don't think we're gonna see it. So there
is a gap. Kirk Cousins is seventeen thousand yards away.
He's also two years away or three years away from

(18:21):
giving the job to Michael Pennix Junior. Like there's yeah.
Like so when you look at the current NFL and
where it's situated, Eli has separated himself from a lot
of those guys. But it still doesn't mean when you're
talking about the greatness in the grates of the NFL
where Philip rivers through for sixty three thousand yards, Ben
Roethlisberger is going to be a first ballot Hall of Famer,
top five passing yards, Super Bowl rings, that's gonna be there.

(18:45):
That Pittsburgh Steelers is going to play uPAR in it.
But Ben at least really does have the hardware to
back it up. I don't think Eli does eight and
four of the playoffs as you talk about. But you
know what the counter argument is two playoff runs and
your four other appearances, you were one and done in
the playoffs. For sure, they scored twenty four points or
more excuse me, more than twenty four points in one

(19:05):
of the twelve playoff games that Eli Manning played in.
Exactly to your point, they've played. They scored thirty seven
against Green Bay in an NFC Divisional playoff game in
January of twenty twelve on their way to win then
obviously winning their second Super Bowl. So that's the back
and forth of Eli we go with Bose got his points,
Carrie has his points, Chris has his points. I have
my points, but we're not really all in unison on it.

(19:26):
And that's why he can't be a first ballot Hall
of Fame.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
Yeah, I think the goal pollst moving when it comes
to this to the NFL Hall of Fame is just
it's the biggest move that I've ever seen. It's similar
to what you said before. It's you know, baseball is
very very lock and step and how they handle theirs.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
No problem leaving nobody. Yeah, nobody got in. It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Yeah, But the NFL, it seems like they want to
celebrate something every year and have a class that does it.
So it's part of that. But again, I'm happy for
all these guys who make it. It's a lot of
guys in this league that have played in this league
that are you know, worthy of being thought of in
that same light, and sometimes they don't get their due,
and so when they do, it's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
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talking whether you should be a first time a first
ballot Hall of Famer or not. He's carry Roads. I'm
Dan Byer, hanging out on a Sunday. Hit him up
at Carrie twenty five Roads. You can find me at
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To it's end, Reggie Wayne absolutely belongs in the Hall
of Fame. Before Eli Manning glory days of the Colts
would not have been without Reggie Wayne. For sure.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
You think so, oh, I don't think he's I'm not
saying you something to get in before elied, but it's
true to uh yeah, I mean those days with the Colts,
I mean he was he wasn't one, but he was
one a as good as as good as the main
Rovin Harrison was. I mean, Reggie Wayne was just as good. Sure,
and then there was a point where Harrison moved on.
Wayne was, yeah, you know, took over the It took

(22:04):
the torch. Reggy Wayne has also waited a little while,
as is Tory Holt. Yes, in this same thing of
Isaac Bruce Tory Holts, the later one that comes along
and now it's a little tougher for Isaac Bruce and
Marvin Arrison, both in the Hall of Fame. Now Holt
and Wayne waiting their opportunities. Gary Johnson sweets in to me,
only you failed to mention ELI won two Super Bowl MVPs.

(22:28):
We said, not only did I mention that, Gary, I
mentioned it twice. Okay, I mentioned it twice in that
fifteen to twenty minutes that we talked about. So I
his point is every other person who's won the award
at least twice is in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yeah, well, I mean it helps. I think that the
NFL was different at that point back then. But bart
Starr won back to back Hall of I mean he's
a Hall of Fame quarterback. Yeah, he's Joe Montana four
super Bowl I don't think that they're saying Montana is

(23:05):
in because of his Super Bowl MVPs, Like, I don't
think that that's the level of it. Eli is such
an odd case that he got to the Super Bowl
twice and won the MVP twice, but his team's completely
flamed that Eli made four Pro Bowls. Yeah, just four
in a conference, by the way, that was not littered

(23:28):
with Tom Brady, Ben Roethlisberger, Philip Rivers, Peyton Manning exactly.
You know, you did have to get past Drew Brees,
but Aaron Rodgers, Brett Farv part of that as well.
But still just four Pro Bowls. And then again, this
is why he shouldn't be a first ballot Hall of Famer.
He's gonna get in the Hall of Fame, just don't
do it next year. And that's a part of that point.

(23:48):
And that's the part Dan, It's like, there's no hard
criteria for it. So this is why a discussion is
so layered and so hard because, like I said, if
you had to reach certain milestones of certain numbers and
that was kind of like the precursor to your Hall
of Fame career, it would be more black and white,
it would be more clear. But the fact that, like
you said, only four Pro Bowls, cool, he's got two

(24:09):
Super Bowl MVPs.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
Does that counter the argument in a hard, concrete way. No,
but it could be for somebody else. But again, these
are all subjective things, right, and so that's where it
becomes a conundrum, like it is right now.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
There's the popularity of players, is uh huh is a
big one as well. Yes, I also think that when
you look at specifically the running back position you mentioned
Fred Taylor, I think we look at it differently. No
disrespect to Marshawn Lynch, who is up for the first time. Yeah,
but Fred Taylor should be in before Marshawn Lynch. I
hope he better. I hope so. But the question is,

(24:46):
is because Marshawn Lynch and his popularity, and obviously there's
a recency bias. Yes, And also I would say when
you look at how we would look at current running backs,
Marshaw Lynch had four straight c you know, a thousand
yards and double digit touchdowns for the Seahawks. That may
not seem like a ton, but in today's NFL it

(25:08):
puts you into the conversation. He also had a couple
of thousand yard years when he was in Buffalo early
on in his career. We know about the Beast quake.
I mean, aside from the legend of him not getting
the football at the one yard line. May help him
into the Hall of Fame more than anything else. Yeah,
But like there's so there's the popularity of Marshawn Lynch.
But I just the Fred Taylor thing and I feel

(25:30):
like I'm a broken record because whenever I talk about
the NFL, I just go back to the point of
I think guys like Tiki Barber and Fred Taylor and
Warwick Dunne and Ricky Waters are completely neglected because they
did both. And even you know, Priest Holmes was a
fantasy football point producing machine and then Larry Johnson when

(25:53):
he moved in same thing, and I don't think that
those guys are thought of. Stephen Jackson during his time
at the Saint Louis Rams like was was a runner
and a pass receiver and pass catcher out of the backfield,
and we kind of just think of those guys as whatever,
and I don't think that's necessarily fair. Where Like, you know,
Marshawn Lynch is now, I mean, he's worthy enough for

(26:14):
Adam Schefter put him on his list, and I think
people are gonna say, yeah, I think Lynch should be
a Hall of Famer. Maybe one day he will, but
I just don't think first team. That's why I think
Earl Thomas is the better as a Seahawk fan. Yeah,
if I had to pick one or the other, Earl
Thomas would be the one that would go in and
ahead of marsha On Lynch.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
How many years do you how many years did the
Earl Thomas I guess dominate. Well, I would say was
dominant in that run. I know early on he really was.
And I'm just trying to compare the years.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah, Martin, here's the thing is like Earl Thomas took
care of everyone's mistakes. Sure, yeah, yeah, you know he's
a three time All Pro. He was the All Decade
safety in the twenty tens, seven time Pro bowler. Yeah,
so that's I guess seven years he was. He was
a Defensive Player of the Year. He finished third in

(27:00):
twenty thirteen. Wow. He was first team All Pro three
straight years, earned two other second team All Pro designations
and you being an All Pro Yeah, you know what
that's like and trying to break through.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
Yeah, it's it's funny because you said it, though. I mean,
there's as good as Earl Thomas was, and I trust me,
I'm not discrediting anything he did was it was brilliant
in some of those years and some of the plays
that he made and on that team, especially being in
those high state games and we were able to see
him on you know, in those big moments he was
making all the plays and so you got to give

(27:32):
him credit for it. But there's a level of what
you just said, there's a popularity thing where you know,
they have the secondary, they're the leasion, they have all
these things that are surrounding them, and so everything they
did was magnified. And so like you get to see
that and you get to see how great he was,
but there's so other other guys along the way along

(27:53):
that journey that are just you know, right up there
with him, were probably just as good that didn't get
the credit. So that's why I kind of it's kind
of hard from me when I see Hall of Fame
numbers and things happen.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
I mean, Richard Sherman is the mouth of that crew.
You're watching cam Child like so much. Yeah, you know,
just play it against the run and against the past
and what he did. But I really think that that
Earl was a key part of that. Sure not at
a one hundred per Jason tweets in he's fifty three,
and it feels like they're letting everyone in the Hall
of Fame that we're remotely good. So that's kind of

(28:25):
our point as well. Yeah, someone who's great is at
the news desk right now, Isaac Lohnkron, giving us the
latest of what is happening, and then we'll weigh in
on the new kickoff topic in the National Football League.
Good morning, Isaac, Good afternoon. I guess if you're on
the East coast as well, how are things with you today?

Speaker 7 (28:40):
Indeed, and fellas well, we have a lot to get
to in the Olympics. We actually have some fresh college
football news on this Sunday morning because new Michigan head
coach Sharon Moore is being accused of violating NCAA rules
as part of the Connor Stallions scandal. Oh what, Oh geez,
it's all according to a draft of an NC double

(29:00):
a notice of allegations that was obtained by ESPN. The
draft alleges More deleted a thread of fifty two text
messages between him and Stallions so he could face a
show cause penalty and or suspension. Former Michigan head coach
Jim Harbaugh also accused of committing a violation for denying

(29:20):
an NC double a request to view messages and records
from his personal cell phone.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
He missed three games, so that's good enough. That's good enough. Yes,
I'll let you finish your update and then I will no.

Speaker 7 (29:33):
No, no, I mean when I mean we all have
things on our cell phone on our cell phones, I
mean it's probably cast sictures.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
I'm sure you've got that's right.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
I have my own crew.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
I know I'm completely biased as an Ohio State fan
and everybody else in Collge football heats Ohio State.

Speaker 8 (29:50):
But the way that Michigan got such a free pass
for this garbage, I mean it is amazing.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
People are, hey, oh, look Jim.

Speaker 8 (29:58):
Harbaugh's tattoo, Michigan National champs. They had the they had
the cheap codes, they had all of it. They could
have the Big Ten whimped out by giving them a
three game ban. They should have kicked him out of
the entire Big Ten championship game.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
But the worst part about it is nobody cares.

Speaker 8 (30:17):
Like if this was Alabama or if this was Ohio State,
people would care so much.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
But for some.

Speaker 8 (30:23):
Reason, no one gives a flip and like, oh, Michigan,
good job, go Blue, what a joke? Like yeah, the
NCAA is gonna be handing down their notice of allegation.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
They're like, I don't think they're gonna make it an
he wins.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Why why they all happened just now?

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Oh my goodness, sorry, Isaac, go ahead, No, I love it.

Speaker 7 (30:44):
I I mean, Carrie, I've never seen Dan this agitant.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
I was so happy, so mild mannered, so so annoying,
like it's oh, it's just.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
Oh gosh, quivering with rain. I think ILove set this
up on purpose. You did it on purpose.

Speaker 5 (31:02):
Let's put it this way.

Speaker 7 (31:03):
I actually deleted my text messages just before going on
the air to erase the digital paper trail. One note,
these allegations technically still come from a draft of the.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Notice of allegations.

Speaker 7 (31:17):
Yeah, so it is not final and still subject to change.
I mean, what if you accidentally X out the Microsoft
word document without saving it. There's still a chance of that.
Happened on to the Olympics, where he had a dramatic finish.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
In men's golf.

Speaker 7 (31:33):
Today, American Scottie Scheffler won the gold incredible nine hundred
sixty two in the final round. He finished at nineteen
under par overall, one ahead of Tommy Fleetwood, who won
the silver, two ahead of Hideki Matsuyama, who won the bronze.
The US women's basketball team right now up seventy seven
fifty four over Germany in the fourth quarter. American Christian

(31:56):
Faulkner has won the gold medal in the women's cycling
road race, and Novak Djokovic won the gold medal in
men's tennis today with a seven six seven sixth victory
over Carlos A. Karaz, Djokovic's first career gold medal. Back
to Carry Rhodes and the agitated Dan Byer.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
All right, I'll chill out for a little bit. No,
Like I said, I love it.

Speaker 5 (32:23):
This is the show now, Carrie. I hope you're ready.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
No, I was ready. I was pumping them up too.
I was egging it on. It's the day of there
there are people who still talk about tattoos with Ohio State.
That was like fifteen years ago. Okay, it's a long
time ago. And this is just moved on, just swept
under the rug where they had a blatant cheating scheme.
For some reason, it sticks with Bill Belichick, but Jim

(32:47):
harbought everybody else's teflon and it just slides off of
them and they get all that. It's it. It's just
I do not understand why I got a question.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
I got a question for you, Dan, So can you
tell me exactly how you really feel about Michigans?

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (33:03):
Man, you know what the best part of this right now,
I'm sure as we're gonna find out more. Uh, the
draft letter does in fact confirm that NCAA investigators saw
Connor Stallions on the sideline wearing a disguise at one
of the games. So that's all true. Yeah, like this
guy was out there for wearing a fake mustache, stealing signs,
Like that's awesome.

Speaker 4 (33:20):
And yeah, like that we kept finding Stallions like it's
a where's Waldo games? Is funny, But to your point, Dan,
like that's legit, Like as funny as it is, that's
far more legitimate cheating than anything about any kind of tattoo.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
And removing Jim Harbaugh from the sideline. I'm sorry the
Hayes in the barn right, right, Like Michigan and Ohio
State game plan for each other three hundred and sixty
five days out of the year, right, so like he's
not on the sidelines for that game. That sounded that's
not a big, big loss, Like it's I mean, maybe
a little bit for a decision here or there, but

(33:53):
like it's the game plan you know what you're gonna
You're gonna do a month prior, of course. And he's right,
he's phone call away. It's not like he's you know,
he's a red phone call away. So it's not's he
wasn't that far removed either, So oh man, it's just
I it's it's a double, it's it's it. The whole

(34:15):
scenario annoys me. But then how everybody is just cool
with it or accepts it and oh, let's just move
on when it was happening this past season and it
happened in seasons prior, and yet it's it's different where
it's like, Okay, a kid got a bag of catch
before nil, sure, and then ends up playing that has
nothing to do on the field, like oh, they paid
him two hundred grand to go to the school. Of course,

(34:36):
you know, vacate all those wins. Kentucky just had their
wins vacated from twenty twenty one in twenty twenty two
or about to there. And that was part of what
the NCAA said was that they gave impermissible benefits to
players because the work that they were being paid to do,
like was not completed and they're going to wipe out
seventeen Kentucky wins. Oh wow, yeah in twenty twenty one

(34:57):
and twenty two. Good but this no national championship stands.
Please all right, We're gonna get to the kickoff rule.
He's carry Roads. I'm Dan By. I already got a
cry baby tweet. Somebody sent me I might make Carrie
twenty five Roads. You can find me and Dan Velure
on Fox. I know, I like it's the numbers are
against me. Dan, it's twenty twenty four. Man, can he
mote emote let it out? He can't call you a crybaby? Uh?

(35:22):
I do I know it sounded like a cry baby.
I know, I did, I know I did. He's carry on, Dan,
It's next year on Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Sunday.
He's the all Pro carrier Roads. I'm Dan Bayer. An
NFL coaches wayed in on the new kickoff rule after
watching what happened on Thursday night, we will as well.
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a winner as well. Sean Payton watched the kickoff on
Thursday and night or the kickoffs between the Texans and Bears, says, hey,
if you're not going to kick the ball in what
is the landing zone, it shouldn't be brought out to
the thirty yard line. He didn't think that that was
punishment enough. He says it should be brought out to
the thirty five yard line. Was one of his adjustments

(36:47):
that he thought. I watched the new kickoff rule and
felt that what we're going to see in this NFL
season are a lot more touchdowns on kickoff returns. That
is my takeaway from actually watching it and happen. If
you break through that first line of defense carry or
second line of defense, I think you're gone to the house.
I think all you gotta do is beat the kicker,

(37:08):
and it's the only guy who got to beat. I
don't think there's gonna be anybody coming from the opposite
side of the field that's gonna be able to chase
you down. That's where I think we are where this
kickoff is not so much about whether the ball should
be kicked in the landing zone and brought out to
the thirty five. I thought the thirty was penalty enough,
but Trump Payton wats the thirty five. But I think

(37:28):
we're gonna get some big plays this year. Everything stays
the same.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if they moved out
to the thirty five. I mean, obviously this is for protection,
but it's also for the return.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Team to score easier off to return. Right, that's part
of the process. That's really what it is.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
I mean when you watch it, so I wouldn't be
surprised if they moved to the thirty five. And I
don't like it because I'm old school, I'm a purist.
I understand you know how big of a deal it
is for a lot of those guys on kickoff team
and those return teams, Like a lot of those guys
make the team because of this, right, And so you're

(38:05):
taking away somebody's ability to stand out on that side
of the ball as a kick cover guy because there's
guys that do that really really well. So you're eliminating
that part of that for them, So that job for
them may be gone. So I see it that way,
So I will look at it as a negative to
that point. But also, I mean, we're just taking out

(38:25):
all of the aggression of the game. I mean that
that is part of it. It is a lot of
injuries do take place on that but that is part
of the fun and excitement that happens with with the
old kickoff rules. I don't really like this, and I
can't really follow it.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
It was actually a little odd looking to me because
we're so used to having a line of scrimmage, beefier
guys forming that offensive line, and here you basically feel
like you have ten guys across the line that are
all I don't know, safeties and maybe edge rushers about
that size, and you're defending the whole place, which I
actually think would be a little difficult to lock. It

(39:02):
could be wrong, but I haven't been in this sort
of formation or played in this sort of formation, but
it just seemed very spread out and very thin. But
I just think if you break through that line of defense,
that you're going to be able to get a lot
of touchdowns, a lot more touchdowns on returns than we've
seen in the past, let alone just returns. Period. But
John Payton says, thirty yard line is if a team

(39:22):
got the ball in the thirty against you as a defense,
are you good with thirty? Are you just like all
right here? I know thirty five is pushing it. Yeah, yeah,
I thought thirty was also kind of pushing in. Yeah,
thirty is pushing.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
I mean, seventy yards doesn't It seems like a long way,
But it's it's not because at the end of the day,
you get thirty five yards and field goal ry. It's
not just about the touchdown part of it. And I
said this on Friday.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
With the kickers that we've got in the NFL now
and the facilities that they're kicking in. So if I
at and T stadium, indoor facilities, turf like your your
field goal range is a lot longer. Fifty eight and
sixty yard field goal attempts are much more of the
norm in the National Football League. So if you are
already starting at the thirty yard line, a couple of

(40:08):
first downs, you know, to the forty two, and then
now you're to you know, the opponent forty seven. You know,
if you get fifteen yards, whatever the case, you know,
eleven twelve yards, you're in that neighborhood. So that's why
I think thirty is sufficient. But Sean Payton wants to
tighten the screws. Of course, he's carrier outs. I'm Dan Beyer.
We made a case for Eli Manning to not be

(40:29):
in a Hall of Fame. Now we make a case
for the top one hundred to go away completely again.
I know I can skew negative Carrie. When we were
talking about Eli Manning and his Hall of Fame case.
We're probably gonna skew negative as we rip the shreds
this top one hundred show that the NFL network puts together.
But I want to shed some lights. I want to
shed some positivity. Olympic golf was magnificent today, even though

(40:53):
I was asleep for most of it. What was great
is coming down the stretch. I was here late last night.
I was even in with Bernie Fratto on the overnight,
so I had to get some shut eye at some point.
But when you have when you finish third in a
golf tournament, usually you get a pretty nice paycheck, but
you don't get anything for it. Here, Hideki Mantciama gets
to bring home some hardware with the bronze. Tommy Fleetwood
ended up not faltering down the stretch, but had a

(41:18):
tough bogie as he was winding down his round. But
guess what your consolation prize silver? Not bad. You can
always say that you left with the medal at the
Olympic Games. And there was a lot of talk this
week about maybe golf needs to change the format make
it a team competition. There have been other team competitions
that they've done outside of the Olympics that would have

(41:38):
us against Ireland. And obviously we know about the Ryder
Cup and the President's Cup. But this, I'll tell you what.
The way that it ended today and the excitement that
you have and the players jockeying for medals, I thought
was good. I don't know if they'll make a change.
I don't think that they should, because when we're watching
swimming or we're watching track and field, we care about

(41:59):
the final. We care about what's going to happen in
the final and who's going to make it in that
final race. The preliminary runs, the semi final runs that
you have in track and field, the semi final heats
that you have in swimming are nice, but they're not
the main deal. And I feel that's the first three
rounds of golf that it all comes down to this
final round and what you can do, just like it

(42:20):
is in swimming. Just like we saw yesterday wash to
Carrie Richardson unable to get gold, but she ends up
getting silver. Doesn't matter what you do in any of
the preliminary you know heats and runs, and it's what
you do in that final round. And I think it
worked for golf.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
Or what about having a team a team a team
belt as well and also the individual would you like
having that type of carry over with it as well?

Speaker 2 (42:45):
That would be that would be unique in the way
of and what you could do. Honestly, if there was
a way, I don't know how they would technically do it.
You could combine men's and women's. You could have a men's,
you could have a women's. You could just take the score,
a cumulative score of your team and give out a metal.
I think all of that could work. Yeah, but there
was just some flak given that there wasn't much buzz.

(43:07):
But I think today was another good day for Olympic golf.
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The MVP Patrick Mahomes has the Super Bowl rings, but
it was Tyreek Hill of the Miami Dolphins who topped
the NFL's top one hundred list unveiled by the NFL Network.
And this is I take the bait. I will gladly
take it, and I will be considered a sucker because

(43:51):
I feel that's what these shows are about, in making
us have a conversation. But I was I wouldn't say shocked,
but I was very surprised that a quarterback not named
Mahomes or Jackson was not the top player in the
NFL this past season. I don't doubt that Tyreek Hill

(44:13):
has great value, and I feel that Tyreek Hill has
been underrated as an actual receiver in the NFL because
we just look at his speed and think, like all,
that's who Tyreek Hill is. I actually think he's a
really good receiver and with all the different things that
you can do with him, maybe make him more valuable.
And obviously that has been the message given to the

(44:34):
rest of the league as he was voted number one.
So I'm glad that Tyreek Hills, a football player, is
getting this recognition. I just find it difficult when we
put so much weight on the quarterback position to see
that Lamar Jackson was the MVP or Patrick Mahomes, who
wins this third Super Bowl, is not number one on
this list.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
Yeah, if we're talking about individual season, yes, it's going
to be the excite I didn't brand the football.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
That Tyreek Hill plays the way that he has the big.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
Splashes and he automatically instills fear in fear in most
DB's once you know when they line up across from
him just because of his speed, right, so we know
that that's a thing.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
He had a great year. I could see him being
in the top five.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
Obviously, it is hard to see Lamar Jackson or Patrick
Mahomes not being number one. Lamar Jackson was the MVP,
and you know, Mahomes did have a pretty i would say,
under the radar sub par year for the most part
of that year last year until the stretch run, So
I could see why he wasn't number one just from

(45:37):
that standpoint. But yeah, it's it was interesting to see
a non quarterback guy, Yeah one.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
And Mahomes wasn't two, and Mahomes wasn't three. Mahomes was
four on this list to that point, which then to
me magnifies some of the problems that we're seeing. Not
that Patrick Mahomes was four, but this domino effect of
where the rankings are, and that's where I kind of
want to dive in is this is a TV show,
This doesn't matter, but this does get us talking, and

(46:05):
I think that if we're going to start the real conversation,
what also happens with the players in the NFL voting
this stuff? And Bo Benson's our executive producer, give us
more of a layout about what this top one hundred
really is supposed to be, which will make you even
question it even more. But what this does say to me,
because we're a little more than a week than away

(46:27):
from Tua getting his extension, is that NFL players around
the league say it's Tyreek Kill that makes that Dolphins
offense go, and not to a tongue of Iloa. If
Tyreek Kill is this good who had threatened Calvin Johnson's
single season mark. This is the fourteenth year. This is

(46:47):
all said even in the NFL Networks bio on having
Tyreek Hill be number one, first time that a wide
receiver has gotten that mark. To me, that tells me
the players around the league think that the secret sauce
and maybe not so secret sauce of the Dolphins has
everything to do with Tyreek Hill and not as much
to do with to a tongue of by law.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
Well, I mean, individually looking at it, you could I
think you could say that, and you would say that
coming off of last year, right, the times that they
couldn't get the ball to Tyrek Deep or he couldn't
make a big play, that Dolphins was pretty pretty normal
outside of the run game. Outside of the run game,
the run game was still kind of dynamic, but that
would also be another factor that still would not include Tua, right,

(47:28):
So correct, You're correct in that assessment.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
So those are those are some of the things that
stick out and maybe some of the warts that we
can end up pointing to. Bo Benson is our executive producer. Bo,
you kind of were talking prior to the show on
what this top one hundred actually is that this this
culmination of voting where they the voting is done late
in the regular season and not unveiled until the summer.

(47:53):
So it's been a while, Well what actually makes up
this top one hundred? What do what is the NFL
network saying that the criteria is when we're looking at this.

Speaker 5 (48:03):
So as far as I know, this, voting takes place
in December, so you're not even you're like, what halfway
through the season at that point, maybe a little more
than half.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
Yeah, we probably got about four or five weeks ago.

Speaker 5 (48:16):
Voting takes place in December, and I believe I read
that they're asked to fill out like the twenty best
players and they tally all those and kind of you know,
figure it out from there to make a list of
one hundred. And it's also only for that season, but
the list is going into next season as well.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
So it's really weird because you had a beef that
Aaron Donald was not Yeah, Aaron.

Speaker 5 (48:38):
Donald was not on this list because he's not gonna
playing next year, and I think that's stupid.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
So like, yeah, I would agree with that. I would
to that point of if you're going to put him
on any list. Yeah, Aaron Donald to be a top
one hundred player in the NFL last season.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
I mean, he's my most dominant defensive player I've ever
seen to me, so yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
So Aaron Donald is not on the list. Tua, by
the way, is thirty sixth in these rankings, So two
is thirty six, Joe Burrow is thirty ninth.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
What was your other ranking that you looked at and
was like, this is this is a terrible ranking.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Two of them. I got it ready and I'm gonna
lead in. So this is this is the part of
it Tobo's point. So Joe Burrow is hurt. Yeah, but
Joe Burrow is three spots back of Tua. Like there's
in no right world would we pick Joe Burrow or
Tua over Joe Burrow, I believe, But yet it's somehow
with the votes tallied, Yeah, close enough where Tuo has

(49:38):
got a slight edge over Joe Burrow. If just based
on availability, then sure then absolutely. But when you see
it just it's I'll get to the ones that make
me mad right now, and just two and Joe Burrow
in the same breath are just difficult for me to handle.
The first one was Travis Kelsey. Terrible because Travis Kelcey

(50:03):
was voted not only top twenty but top ten. In fact,
he was top eight eight right, he was eighth coming
off of a season that was his worst statistically since
twenty fifteen. Like that, to me, I have a problem
with that. He didn't break a thousand yards this past year,
played in fifteen games. If he plays in all seventeen,

(50:26):
then he does break one thousand yards, but he didn't, right,
And to have him be eighth seems to me a
bit of a bit of an overreach. Like if we're
going to underreach and not allow Aaron Donald in because
he's retired, that's crazy. But I'm curious to see where
Aaron Donald would have been if he would have been

(50:46):
allowed Travis kelce If you would have put Travis Kelcey
in the top thirty, then I'm fine with it to
talk about the intangibles, but to say that there were
only seven better players than him in the NFL last year,
I just think is off pretty bad. Yes, pretty pretty bad. Yeah,
the worst of the worst actually happened in the ninety

(51:07):
one through one hundred, revealing Aaron Rodgers was ninety second.
He took four snaps all of last season. And yet
when people are filling out their ballots are putting Aaron
Rodgers on this list. And I'm sorry. If you're not
going to include Aaron Donald because he retired, then you

(51:29):
shouldn't put a guy who played only four snaps. And
that again is now this is a height machine to
enter the NFL season, and that's what this is all about.
I mean, how do you feel if you're Terry McLaurin,
who had to deal with a bunch of quarterbacking, you know,
a different bunch of different quarterbacks now practice, yes, here, there,

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and everywhere. And he comes in ninety seventh and Aaron
Rodgers took ran a flag out onto the field, Hey
don't you do it? And then took four snaps and
was ninety two. Trevor Lawrence. For as bad as it was,
Trevor Lawrence was actually ranked behind Aaron Rodgers. So people
would rather have four snaps of Aaron Rodgers not doing anything,

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and would rather have that than have Trevor Lawrence, who
I know didn't have the greatest season, he battled his
own injuries. But there's no way that Aaron Rodgers should
even smell this list. And he was ninety second to
the NFL.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
Dan that flag run out and those four snaps were glorious.
Though it's Aaron Rodgers man, he is definitely one of
the top one hundred players going into any year, so
I can see that. But again, it just really shows
that when this voting's going on. Most of these guys
aren't even really paying attention. Yes, I've been in the room,

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so I know, like a lot of times we get
this stuff and we're voting on certain things and it's
just I'm trying to get home and so whatever.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
I see, how kind of check fill it out? Jack
checked Rogers? Is that's a name, right, So he's like, oh, yeah,
of course, yes, yeah. Yeah. So they they got me
to bite. They suckered me in. Eight of the top
ten were from the AFC, which was surprising. Maybe it

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shouldn't be too surprising, but I was just surprised that
it was lopsided in that way. The two NFC representatives
were both from the forty nine ers Trent Williams and
Christian McCaffrey. But Max Crosby was tenth. Travis kell You know,
I say that Travis Kelsey was ninth, hero I was
saying he was eight. He was ninth. That's my that's
my fault on that Travis Kelsey was ninth. TJ Watt

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was eight, Trent Williams seven, Chris Jones six, and then
your top five consistent of Miles Garrett, Patrick Mahomes, Christian McCaffrey,
Lamar Jackson and then Tyreek Hill, even Travis Kelsey being ninth.
This is absurd. It's a lot these carrier roads. I'm
Dan Byer. We can forget about they should just I
know that they need programming. I know that they need

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something to get you hype and get your talking. And
so I took the bait, but not as mad as
some people are about Tyreek Hill as I am about
Aaron Rodgers having four snaps and somehow being on this
ranking hit carry out back carry twenty five roads. You
can find me at Dan Byer on Fox. Are you
ready for the categories for easy As one, two three
four coming up next? The categories are Olympics in the NFL.

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That's it. That's it, Olympics in the NFL. Your lifelines
of Chris Burfett, Bo Benson and Isaac Lohankron. There will
be no Steve Hartman aided answers coming up Steve somewhere
whereas it. Steve will be sequestered as he's getting ready
for his show easy As one, two three four next
year on Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Sunday. I'm Dan Byer.

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He's the all pro carry rhoads. Just a few more
weeks until the NFL season gets underway. The clock is ticking.
We are almost exactly a month away from the first
NFL game September fifth. Today is August fourth. We've had
the Hall of Fame game. I have heard a lot
of people try to say, guess what last you know,

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take whatever day without football until December, blow of January,
whatever the case is. I'll point this out. College football
does have a week zero carry. Yes, that is on Saturday,
August twenty fourth, and then Week one begins on Labor
Day weekend. But with the NFL's new schedule, there was
a bigger break in the preseason with only the three games,

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so you actually have a two week break before the
game start. So there's no NFL games that last week
of August, but there will be college to wet your appetite.
So overall football, yes, But for the people who said
last Thursday without NFL football until February a couple of
weeks ago, well you're not gonna have any NFL football

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in August twenty ninth. It's not gonna be there for you. However,
we'll have some college football because that will end up
being the first week of the NFL season. All right,
it is that time, Oh Carrie rhads, you're over under
today and easy as one, two, three four, seven and
a half will make it easy? Yes, seven and a half.
I think there are a couple of questions that could
be there for you, but some are some are a

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little out of the out of the realm. Carrie has
the opportunity to get ten points that would be a
perfect score when I give him a variety of topics
and he just has to give me some of the
correct answers, not all of them. I got a perfect
score is ten. The over under seven and a half,
so you can bet on the over under. You can
play along if you're listening, driving along, traveling, maybe getting

(56:41):
your last vacation before school begins. Feel free to play
along here uneasy as one, two three four. You have
three lifelines, Isaac lowing Kron at the news desk, Bo Bent,
and our executive producer technical producer Chris Purfett. Are you
ready to play easy as one, two three four, Yes,
let's do it. Name one of two leading scorers for

(57:01):
Team USA and men's basketball through the first three games
of these Paris games. One of two. One of two
leading scoreres you go Anthony Edwards, Anthony Edwards and Kevin Durant. Okay,
oh geez, look at this peacocky already show me Anthony Edwards.
I only needed one. I only needed one. Sixteen point

(57:23):
seven points per game. Kevin Durant is second with sixteen
points per game so far, so you are correct, But
just one point for Kerry Rhodes on that one does
not need a lifeline. Maybe it will hear name two
of three countries that have won a gold medal in
men's golf at the Olympic Games. Two countries. Yeah, so

(57:45):
there have been three different countries that have won a
gold medal in men's golf at the Olympic Games.

Speaker 9 (57:51):
So us give me two of them go to the US. Okay,
and we will go. I don't want to use my
lifeline because I think I know this. But if I
think I know this and I'm having a doubt, I'm
going to.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
Go to christ for this one.

Speaker 4 (58:11):
For the other other country here, I might let you
down on Oh, it's gotta be great Britain, right, I
was thinking that it's got to be great Britain.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
That's what I thought. But Team GB is that where
you want to go Ilo.

Speaker 7 (58:26):
Ilo is not here right now, but if you leave
a message after the bb'll get back to you with
the correct answer.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
Two of the three countries that have won a gold
medal in men's golf at the Olympic Games in the
history of the sport. We'll go United States and we'll
go Great Britain. All right, show me the United States, yes,
Scotti Scheffler. Today, Xander Shoffley won in the Tokyo Games.
So there's those are the two. Show me Great Britain.

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Justin Rose won the gold in twenty six teen in Rial,
the first year that it returned to the Games. Because
in nineteen oh four, Canada's George Leone won gold.

Speaker 4 (59:09):
I don't know that not to throw a wrench in
your in your thing. I'm looking at Wikipedia right now
just to check this, and there's a gold to South
Korea in golf as well, in men's golf. Oh it's
probably not men's golf then okay, yeah, no way.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
So in men's golf. So men's golf, yes, the men's
part nineteen oh four, twenty sixteen, twenty twenty twenty one,
if you will, and then out twenty twenty four is
when golf was in the Olympic program. I gotta trust myself.
I knew that, so it was okay. It's okay to
get the verification. So although I may take a point
away because he about Wikipedia, look there, I ailed this

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on my own, Christopera. Trust me, I've done it plenty
of times. My mistake, I know that's okay. I made
a mistake a couple of weeks ago, and it bothered
me until Thursday. I know.

Speaker 4 (59:57):
And that's why I'm That's why I'm like checking homework now,
just to all right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
I think this one is up bo Benson's alley. But
we'll see named three or four NFL teams who have
unveiled a new white alternate helmet to wear in twenty
twenty four, a white one out. If you would have
said black out of went straight Buffalo, Okay, wait, white

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alternate helmet in twenty twenty four white.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
The Jets is one. Um, go ahead, both help me
out both. I know the Jets is one.

Speaker 5 (01:00:33):
Vikings and Packers.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
Vikings Packers, do you agree with the Jets one as well?
Because I saw it.

Speaker 5 (01:00:41):
I know the Jets are wearing their helmet that you wore.
I believe and I don't know if that fits the
criteria for white Dan's looking for. I think the Browns
are going to be wearing an all white helmet at
some point again, but I don't know if that count
as a debut, right, But I know the Vikings and
the Packers both are wearing white helmet.

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
Let's go Vikings Packers Jets because I saw a jet
when i'm I'm I guessed, I think, so.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Okay, show me the Minnesota Vikings. Yes, they unveil theirs
throughout the summer. Show me the Green Bay Packers. Yes,
they unveiled theirs this week. They just needed to add
a gold stripe down the middle. And is it the
New York Jets? Wow?

Speaker 5 (01:01:26):
Car team?

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
No, I saw it might not be new though.

Speaker 5 (01:01:29):
You know they're they're wearing the helmet you wore this year.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
Y right, They're going back to it? Yeah, but they
they've it's a it's a new helmet. Where So Dallas
obviously wore their whites white helmet on Thanksgiving will probably
wear that again this year. The Chargers have had their
white helmet prior the two new white ones. Jacksonville is
wearing a white helmet, and the Broncos had a white helmet,

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but they have changed the logo on it. Yes, so
it is the Instead of the old D on the helmet,
it is now the current horse Hill Horse. The Broncos
will wear their throwbacks with the old John Elway blue
if you will, with the D on the helmet this year,
but the white helmet with the D and the Bronco
are not going to be there for the Bronce.

Speaker 5 (01:02:13):
Sorry carry I was. I was going to say Broncos too.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
I had to throw my my choice in there. Well
the Jets. The Jets as well will have their new
green ones and then they will wear a black one
as well this season with that jetspont from the nineteen eighties.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
Yeah that black You saw the black Buffalo Bills one
though you saw?

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Yeah? Did you like that one? I hated that. I
could not stand it. But they're not gonna wear that's
just it's just a one off or this practice. Yes,
I do think that the Bills should do a nod
to the nineteen nineties and wear a red helmet. Jim Kelly, Thurmantine,
Spruce Smith days where that that would be good. But
even when the Bills were red, I always wanted them

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to go back to the white helmet. So I'm actually
glad that they're they're.

Speaker 4 (01:02:57):
With the this this control here is unified in our
opinion of throwback is just should be normal in a
lot of cases too. Yeah, like just buel designs are
just so much better the farther we get away from them.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Everybody likes it. Everybody loves it. Again, if you had
the Buccaneers, you know they're gonna wear their creamsickle, so
that would have been you know, another Bengals as popular
Titans were their oilers ones last year.

Speaker 4 (01:03:25):
Is so good, it is, but the Titans aren't allowed
to wear those. I'm sorry it should not be allowed
to wear those. That is that is an affront to God.
Can you imagine being a.

Speaker 5 (01:03:33):
Broncos fan in the new uniforms they unveiled this year,
and then a week later they unveiled the throwbacks. They
just look instantly.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
Yeah yeah, all right, final question, Kerry, You've got one
wrong so far. That's okay, a score of five. You
get these four. You hit the over with ease with
nine points. By the way, all of these questions are
timely Golf today, USA Basketball and the Packers unveiling their
white helmet this week. This is also timely. Four of

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the five NFL players who have received a ninety nine
rating in Madden twenty five this year we have so
this they unveil the ratings this week. There are five
players who have a ninety nine rating in Madden twenty five.
Name four of them. We got Mahomes, We have McCaffrey, Mahomes, McCaffrey.

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Thinking of the best of the best.

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
Would Trent Williams, Trent Williams be there, Maholme, McCaffrey, But
if Tyreek Hill be there, I go Tyreek Keele.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
One more.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
I got three, I'm gonna go to I'm gonna go
to bowl for the fourth one here where you got both?

Speaker 5 (01:04:52):
This to me is the classic. There's something deeper here.
With Dan Byer asking this question of you, I believe
trav As Kelsey or Trent Williams.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
Would be your I said Williams too, But I'm.

Speaker 5 (01:05:04):
Travis Kelsey is in the ninety nine club this year.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
He's in the ninety nine club, is your god?

Speaker 5 (01:05:10):
I am ninety nine percent sure that he's in the
ninety nine percent club. Yeah, the ninety nine club.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
Dan, those are your final answers. You got my home CMC,
Travis Kelcey and Trent Williams. You good with that? Is
not Tyreek Hill?

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
Is that I'm gonna go hel So I'm gonna go
go Mahomes, McCaffery, heel and Kelsey Dan all right, show
me Patrick Mahomes there he has perfect number ninety nine.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
Show me Christian McCaffrey ninety nine as well. I feel
like I'm Toto. That's a dated reference. They had a
song called ninety nine and back of the day. Show
me Tyreek Hill, I'm good there he is, And show
me Travis Kelcey there is four of the time, and
the other was Trent Williams. I was on it today.

(01:05:58):
Maybe I was on it today. I don't know if
you guys are football fans are gamers, but either way,
you got it correct. That's some good teamwork. All right,
he's carry Roads. I'm Dan Bayer. Let's go to the
news deck news desk, Isaac Lohenkron, He's got the latest.
Doesn't have the answer that carry was looking for golf, but.

Speaker 5 (01:06:18):
Just wanted to make him sweat a little.

Speaker 7 (01:06:19):
Oh yeah, I'm glad you didn't go to me for
the last one, because I was gonna say Justin Tucker,
who should be a ninety nine, but it just doesn't
get the respect. Scottie Scheffler getting a ton of respect
today because he is officially an Olympic gold medalist. He
won the men's golf competition with a nine hunder sixty

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two in the final round to finish with nineteen under
par overall, one shot out of Tommy Fleetwood, who won silver,
two ahead of Hideki Matsuyama, who won the bronze. In
swimming a short time ago, American Bobby Fink won the
gold medal in the men's fifteen hundred freestyle, setting a
world record in the process. Says Team USA won the

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silver medal in the men's four by one hundred medley relay.
China took the gold medal by a margin of fifty
five hundredths of a second. The US women's basketball team
defeated Germany eighty seven to sixty eight today to finish
group play.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
With a three to zero record.

Speaker 7 (01:07:18):
American Kristin Faulkner won the gold medal in the women's
cycling road race. The US women's volleyball team swept France
three sets to none to finish group play at two
to one at advance to the quarterfinals. Novak Djokovic won
the gold medal in men's tennis with a seven six,
seven to six victory over Carlos Acaraz. Djokovic's first career

(01:07:40):
gold medal finally won Major League Baseball game underway right
now in Cincinnati. The Reds and San Francisco Giants tied
at two in the bottom of the fifth and carry.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
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five Roads. You can find me at Dan Byer on Fox.
Quite a string of birthdays President Obama's birthday today, Yesterday
Tom Brady turned forty seven years old, and on Friday,
when Carrie Rhoades had a birthday right, Yes, a round

(01:08:34):
of applause. Rightes, belated birthday? Did I miss? Do any
of you guys have a.

Speaker 8 (01:08:38):
Birthday that I'm completely overlooking that I apologized for something
told now, did you tell me last week it was
your birthday on Friday?

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
I don't think so, did I? I don't think so either.
Something was telling birthday. Something was telling me last night that, gosh,
I gotta look up Carrie's birthday. I gotta look up
Carrie's birthday. And then when I saw August second, I
was like, something was telling me, I have to look

(01:09:06):
up Carrie's birthday. You're not a big birthday guy anymore, though, huh.

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
No, man, those those you know every day is the celebration.
Got to be grateful every day. I obviously you know,
as you get older, I think they think about birthdays
that really, I mean the most says the people that
are close to you, that are around that support you.
I think that's what it's really about. Where in the
past it was about having as much fun as you
can whatever that, whatever that means, but now it's about

(01:09:34):
being around your loved ones.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
And yeah, that's what I had. Beautiful, a well thought
out piece. I think a birthday is all about you,
like it is your one day. It's three hundred and
sixty four days of everything else, but that one day. Yeah,
it is all about you. You know how I talk
about when I come back from work and I've been
out and I want people to, oh, I know, yeah,

(01:09:56):
say thank goodness you're back. When we're going out to
eat on my birthday and someone else is also celebrating
a birthday in the restaurant, I am completely annoyed, Like, no,
this is my day. Oh man, no one else can
share my birthday. This is my day. That's it. You
know what.

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
I used to have that, Dan, I used to have it,
but now it's just like it's a celebration.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
Let's celebrate the life of everybody here.

Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
Come on, Dan, hop on, boys. It can't be all
about us all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
That's the problem is it's never about us, but that
one day, that one day, it is all about you.
He's carry Roads. I'm Dan Byer. Is it all about
dak in Dallas? And why Bill Belichick maybe taking the
route of Alex Rodriguez. He's Carrier Roads. I'm Dan Bayer.
We're live forth Tirec dot Com Studios. That's next here

(01:10:44):
on Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday Live forth Tirerach
dot Com Studios. He's carry roads. I'm Dan Bayer putting
a bow on this. Steve Hartman's ready to go next.
Thanks is of Glowing cron stuck around a little while
longer today. Bill Benson's our executive producer. Chris Purfett, a
technical producerfet dominating the updates today at the news desk.

(01:11:07):
A little earlier with Andy Furman here on Fox Sports.
Wow nic Yes, nice feel sitting in that chair, Chris Prefett.

Speaker 4 (01:11:13):
It felt different, It felt great. What felt very familiar
was tormenting Andy Furman for three hours. I was able
to get on his his case quite a bit. So
it felt like just like old times. That helped me
in there I was, I was nervous. I thank you
Dan very much. The opportunity to do the updates. Having
Andy there to tournament definitely helped the process along too.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
That's that's good stuff, you guys, always going at it
in the morning and just in a different chair this time.
We talked about to a tongue of Iloa hyreek Hill.
We talked about Eli Manning. We mentioned it's Tom Brady's birthday.
We've talked about a lot of big names in the
National Football League, two big names that we have not
touched on today. I almost feel like it's we were

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obligated to talk about the Dallas Cowboys. Here's my thought
on the Cowboys right now. And the reason I bring
this up is because I almost feel like I'm moving
with the wind a little on Dallas and Dak's situation.
The more I think about it. I just and I
said this when I was with Bernie Fratto last night
and during Bernie Show, when I was where Chris was

(01:12:19):
sitting at the news desk, although I was at my
home studio. The point is is, with Dak Prescott's contract situation,
it's not looming over this team, but we know that
he's gonna make it or break it year. What breaks it? Like?
What does Dak have to do wrong for Dallas to
say we're not going to bring you back? And the

(01:12:41):
reason I phrase it in that way again goes back
to the original time when Dak got his first extension,
when he broke his leg, Like that was the fear of, Hey,
I don't want to go into my contract year with
a broken leg, and well, Guess what. He goes into
his contract year the broken leg and Dallas still paid

(01:13:02):
him the money. So what needs to go wrong? We've
talked about what can go right. Dallas goes to a
super Bowl. Then Dallas overpays for Dak and guess what.
Jerry Jones is fine with that because he had this success.
But what is it exactly that is going to make
you move off of Dak Prescott to say that we
need something different? And I just think that the bar

(01:13:23):
is way too low for them to make that decision.
Where we had Mark Dominic, former NFLGM on the Doug
Gottlieb Show earlier this week and I think it was
on Friday, where he says, I think everybody expects Dak
to be in Dallas. Well, then why not give him
the deal now so you're not having to pay more
next offseason. That's the point where I just I'm like

(01:13:44):
just try. I'm scratching my head on why Dallas hasn't
gotten this done, why it won't get done, because at
some point you're either going to have to make the
decision to move on from him or not move on
from him. And to make the decision to not move
on from him. He would just have to have an
absolute atrocious season for you to say goodbye, no thank you,
And so that's where that's where I am right now

(01:14:05):
in this it's just don't I don't see a scenario
where Dak leaves, which makes me think that the Cowboys
played this all wrong. Yeah, they probably played it wrong,
but they're too it's too late. Now.

Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
We're at a position now where's you just have to
live with the consequences of your actions, and so you know,
we're going to play it out and see what happens.
But there is a world where Dak plays really bad.
We've seen that before. We've also seen a world where
he played really well and last year, right, so we
have both both tiers, get we get to choose from
both tiers. We've seen both, and we know that even

(01:14:37):
with that being said, even after the bad year, he
was able to bounce back and have a really great gear,
so we know that's he's capable of that as well.
For me, the whole situation with Dak is I think
the Cowboys have heard so much of the negative talk
or the negative things surrounding what he's done in the
postseason or getting this team over the top over the hump,
you know, so have you? Those things are real things

(01:14:59):
for them in existing their.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
World right now.

Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
There are not many other options out there that would
be better than Dak Prescott, So that kind of disputes
all of that. Like you said, to support your your argument,
give him give him the money now, because if you're
not going to give it to him now, you're going
to have to give it to him later. So it's
it makes me scratch my hair when I talk about
it as well, and.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
Likely pay more later because I just don't think that
he's going to be in a position and he's going
to have the leverage to not give them a discount.
So I just it's I just I don't know necessarily
what the Cowboys are doing, and I think Dallas is
they're a question mark when it comes to the playoffs
when you're looking at how the NFC shapes out. I
think for a while you felt like there were two

(01:15:42):
or three teams in Dallas being one of those teams
where you're like, Okay, they're going to make the playoffs.
I don't think it's as as sure as sure of
a thing this year as it is in other years.
But still, if you go and win. If you go
nine and eight dak throws for forty five forty eight
hundred yards, how do you say no to that? And
that's where I scratch my head. Now, the other name

(01:16:04):
that we haven't mentioned is Bill Belichick. Did you hear
Bill Belichick has some new work? Yeah, I've heard of him.
He's got more work. So this is what Bill Belichick
has done this offseason. So he has already signed a
deal with Inside the NFL to be on that show
with Ryan Clark and Ocho Cinco. He's going to be
appearing on the Manning Cast for each of their episodes

(01:16:26):
on ESPN or ESPN two. So who's going to appear
with those guys Eli and Peyton? And then he's now
picked up another segment that's going to air on YouTube
as he's signed on with Underdog Fantasy where he's going
to be breaking down all of these segments and the athletics.
Diane Orsini was actually on The Herd Thursday and said

(01:16:47):
that Bill Belichick is kind of going through a pr makeover.
Do you think that that is do you think that's
what this is all about? Or do you think that
Bill Belichick is maybe even trying to navigate a career
in media. Is he just trying to keep busy until
he gets back into the game next season. I thought
it was interesting that she said that they're trying to

(01:17:09):
get some of the stench off of Bill Belichick by
putting him in all of these places and make him
coming out fresh. I looked at it from the way
of maybe media is where Bill Belichick actually wants to stay,
like these guys leave the game. And I know it's
a different situation than what Bill Cower faced, But when
Bill Kauer retired from the Steelers, there were years and
years or rumors of him maybe going to Carolina or

(01:17:30):
going to all these different places. Yeah, and he never
left the CBS, NFL Today desk. He's just always been there.
And I wonder if that could be the case with
Bill Belichick, with all these irons of the fire and media,
maybe he just ends up taking a liking to this
and forgoes coaching.

Speaker 3 (01:17:46):
I think that's probably multiple reasons the PR makeover wouldn't
make sense because a lot of people don't know Belichick,
and he wouldn't give them that ability to know him.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:17:56):
But if you do know him, we like myself he
does have a personalty. He is somebody that can obviously
talk football with the best of them, but there's a likeness,
there's a sense of joy in him that he could
unveil and show people this year and that could could
be the makeover knees because now we think from watching
him he doesn't have a good relationship relationship with the

(01:18:17):
current players, so that's probably what it would be.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
When Mike McCarthy was out of football, he was known
in the season that he was prior to being the
name the Dallas Cowboys head coach. He basically put a
staff together of guys that he wanted a coaching staff,
and they would break down the film each week because
he wanted to get back into coaching and these were
going to be the guys that also, by the way,

(01:18:40):
didn't have jobs, that they were going to be his
guys when he came in. Not that Bill Belichick would
need that. I just find it amazing that he couldn't
just take his Super Bowl rings and show them and say,
all right, this is what you get with me. But
both with the Patriots and even with the New York Giants,
as he would point out that he got as a
defensive coordinator, like that would be enough. I never thought

(01:19:02):
that Bill Belichick would need to do a PR car wash. Yeah,
but that's what Diana Rossini was was insinuating that they
need to put a they need to put a fresh
scent on Bill Belichick. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:19:13):
I remember when when he was getting fired. I remember
being on air on the record saying he wouldn't get
hired in the cycle.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
I said that, and I could tell that.

Speaker 3 (01:19:21):
Just from the energy that was coming from the people
around him, there was no real support in what he
was trying to do and come back. So I had
that feeling, and so it makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
I don't care if I'm wrong. I'll say it in
every show that we do until the end of the
regular season. I think he's going to be the next
Giants head coach. The Giants had just and it's I
just I think he wants to be the Giants head coach.
I just have always felt like that. I felt that
he's loved his time with the Giants, He's revered it.

(01:19:53):
He hates the Jets. What better way he could just
be across town. I know we pointed the Cowboys and
say bye bye Mike McCarthy, but I'm gonna stick with
the giants. That would be fun. That would be a
lot of fun. Spend fun with you. Happy belated birthday.
He's carry roads. I'm Dan Byer. Spend Fox Sports Sunday
on Fox Sports Radio. Talk to you next week.

Speaker 5 (01:20:12):
Yeah,

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