FnA with Kevin Figgers & Adam Auslund react to Shohei Ohtani’s Historic Night, discuss the College Football Coaching Carousel + Noah Eagle stops by!

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We would do this on the podcast for years on end,
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Which got over like one hundred, which is crazy. I mean,
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Like seriously, I've watched all of these films, by the way, yeah, over.

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here and our college football forecast.

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Where we preview tomorrow's or later today's games.

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Absolutely, And I also have a special guest coming up
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the voice of the Big Ten NBC and Peacock.

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Also the voice of the NBA.

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NBA getting started this coming week with Opening Night on Tuesday,
I believe, also the voice of the NBA on NBC
and Peacock. He's calling the big Notre Dame USC game
on Peacock and the NBC coming up later this afternoon.
So that'll be fun.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Okay, let's get to it. First off, it's time.

Speaker 5 (01:35):
It's go time.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
That's wrong. So I know it's called Fox Football Saturday.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
And and I look down at the rundown that presets
up for us, and the headline for this particular segment
just says Otani omg omg omg omg.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
Oh my god, it's goat Tani. First of all, like
you gotta change your name after what happened tonight, because
he had more hits then he gave up hits.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
On the mound and his hits went for home runs.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
You know, Adam, I heard you. You were doing Fox
Football Sunday last weekend, and he talked about Otani being
the unicorn, potentially being the greatest player in the history
of the sport, not being hyperbole, doing things that Babe
Roof was never able to do against competition that Babe
Roof never played against. And don't you know you fast
forward one week, how about that and looked at the
performance that he had on Friday night in a clinching

(02:25):
a series clinching game in Game four of the NLCS
for the Dodgers against the Brewers, to hit three home
runs and strike out ten batters in six scoreless innings.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Incredible.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
My thesis on this was if Otani and I thought
this coming into the season, because we knew at some
point he was going to pitch again. And I fully
believe the reason he went to the Dodgers is for
moments like this. It's a run like this that can
solidify his greatness doing what nobody else has done.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
And tonight was a historic game.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
But I said last weekend, if Otani pitches at a
high enough level, hits at a high enough level, and
wins the World Series while doing so, he is and
here's the operative word, easily the greatest player of all time.
There is no debate how could you debate it? Well,
I tell Rob Parker you've seen what he's doing tonight.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
No drop going off on the Twitter machine. You want
to talk.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
We do have to lob a text message to Rob
Parker and get him on the show tonight, because I'll
do it.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
Honestly, I don't think that would be the worst idea
because he fancies himself a baseball expert, and Kevin.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Is MLB bro. He's a Hall of Fame voter. Of
course he's a baseball he's great at it.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
We see him on MLB Network all the time. But
he's also the expert of poop pooing something, down playing something.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
For self described pooh pooh king. Can you read this?

Speaker 4 (03:46):
This is a tweet that he also put on Instagram
because he thoughts so much of it as everybody else
is freaking out about freaking out about Otani? Can you
give me the Rob Parker impersonation?

Speaker 2 (03:55):
You do? Don't be a prisoner of the moment.

Speaker 6 (03:58):
Amazing game by Otani show, But he was hitting one
fifty in postseason with a ton of strikeouts before tonight.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Real assessment.

Speaker 6 (04:06):
Otani is a unicorn, but not the goat hashtag premature.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
Well, done, well done, premature.

Speaker 6 (04:19):
He's the most most overrated athlete of all time.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
I think what Otani has done is scrambled brains. We
have no idea how to assess something like this because
it's never happened before. Yeah, I don't give a damn
what Babe Ruth did during segregation where he's not going
up against most of the best players back then.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Oh, guys weren't in shape. And now goes for the
pitchers and the hitters. Back then, they know every flaw possible.
With today's analytics on how to get you out, on
how to get hits off you as well, when you're
talking about Otani, any mistake you make can and will
be used against you. And Otani is thriving in this era.
In four K and tonight it was this Crem daily

(04:58):
Krem his masterpiece. And you can say is they took
advantage of his weaknesses.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Look how lost he looked at the plate.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
And I don't think it's hyperbole to say that he
was lost in the entire nds against the Phillies. So
start the series against Milwaukee, yet he only had a hit.
Even the hit he got in Game three, that triple,
he kind of just kind of threw the bat out there,
not to take away from his you know, greatness and
his skill at the plate. And that was kind of
an excuse me triple if I've ever seen one. So
as all as if he was tearing the cover off

(05:25):
the ball, he looked terrible and all of a sudden
it can flip in just a moment's notice. And Freddie
Freeman said this, I don't know if it was at
the end of the Philly series or right before the NLCS.
He said, Show is one of those guys where all
you need is one hit. Yeah, you get one hit,
and all of a sudden, the the just the rain
starts to pour, and all of a sudden he turns
into the greatest player that you've ever seen again.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
And basketball is one shot hot though Tani can be,
can it be a pitch that gets him going to
because the knock on him has been he doesn't hit
as well when he pitches.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
It's not even to the knock.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
I mean, that's what the numbers all season long, outside
of the best season in Anaheim, which three years ago,
I believe it was where he was fully healthy the
entire season and hit that entire year, pitched that entire year,
and he was equally amazing doing both. Generally speaking, throughout
his career, he has struggled at the plate on nights
and the nights after he pitches.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
I remember talking about this with you his last season.
I think with the Angels when it was a will
they won't they trade him? Will they just let him
go for nothing? Will they take that risk? Or will
they trade perhaps the greatest player of all time? And
we were saying, then Otani is the eighth wonder of

(06:34):
the world. He's been tucked away and hidden in Anaheim.
And as you put it, Mike Trout was the flower
in the pot of dirt.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
I still stand by that. So what's Otani the garden
of Eden? There? Like we're starting to wilt unfortunately for Mike.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
Yeah, it's when it took him how many yet bats
and it's four hundredth home run this year. I think
it took him like one hundred and twenty eight at bats.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
So it was almost I fell.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
I thought it was knocking on the door of one
hundred and fifty two hundred at bets, But all right.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
I know there's a lot of pressure. I think it
was exactly one hundred and twenty eight bats from hitting
number three ninety eight to get to number four hundred.
But he saw Mike Trout being the cautionary tale. Yeah,
I'm not gonna let this happen to me.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Now, Mike Trout, if he loves it there or to him,
he wants to hide. And I'm not saying, you know,
hide from the limelight. He just wants to live his
life the way he enjoys it.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
That's fine. But oh Tani had a chance, and he
knew then. He's aware of his legacy that if he
goes to the right situation to be the greatest of
all time, to be talked about like what we're doing
tonight here on Fox Sports Radio, tonight's that night.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
He also recognized that. And maybe we can spend this
off a little later too.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
As far as the conversation of the Dodgers ruining baseball
and whether rules should be changed as far as salary
caps go, the contract that he signed where he basically
makes two million dollars a year annually so that the
Dodgers have enough money to go out and sign other players.
Most players, man, most players are not willing to do that. Yeah,
even with the fact even though it's deferred money. He's
gonna end up getting his seven hundred plus million dollars.

(08:07):
He's just going to get the majority of it much
later down the road. And that's the uniqueness of the
sport and how it's built. A lot of players aren't
doing that. Wan Soto didn't do that. Wan Sodo way,
every single solitary scent that he can get from the
Mets and even squeeze the Yankees in the negotiation just
to get an extra what five million dollars from the
Mets or whatever it was, He's.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Then for leverage.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, i Otani is different than anything we've
seen because it's not just who he is as a player.
It goes along with him being in the International Superstar Bilingual, trilingual, however,
main languages. He can speak like, I don't want to
talk about his past, interpreter, translator.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
But the past right here to talk about the past.
He got here talking about that ass.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
But Otani is I think self aware to a point
that maybe it hurt him a little bit early on
in these playoffs because that pressure can compound on you
when you know what's at stake, and it's not just
about the Dodgers I'm not saying that he would ever
come out and say all I care about is, you know,

(09:10):
the Dodgers winning the World Series. Of course he'll say
stuff like that. But there is a subplot to this
that he can go down as the greatest player ever.
If you're pitching at the highest level and hitting at
the highest level and you go on to win the
World Series doing both those things at the same time,
it's over.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
There can be no debate.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
We can debate all kinds of other a goats, but
this one should be definitive to me.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
I don't know how you can argue against it.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Tel Rod Parker, I guess, like and look, I certainly
understand the argument from people saying, we don't want to
be a prisoner of the moment.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Let's let things play out. What else needs to be
played out? Who else is doing this? Who? And I look?

Speaker 3 (09:46):
And major League Baseball they have the old tiny rule
where he can start games as a pitcher and he
can also hit, and there's talk I think Andrew Friedman,
the general manager of the Dodgers or president of Baseball
ops of the Dodgers, said that they should revise the
rule so that a player can also be a reliever
in a game and also hit, and maybe that's something
that would open up the floodgates a little more for
other players to be able to do it. And even
if players do do it at some point in the future,

(10:07):
they're not gonna be able to do it at this level. Well,
this guy's got basically a Hall of Fame talent at
the pitch as a pitcher and as a hitter. Nobody's
gonna be able to do it. If they are, it's
going to be a long time before they able to
do it at this level. The beat to be a
stellar performer at both sides not gonna be able to
do it.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
My argument to Rob Parker would be, there's no other
player you can bring up that can dominate in this
many ways, in this many parts of the game, like Otani.
Even if you think there are slightly better hitters, there
have been. They also have asterisks if you're talking about
Barry Bonds. But even if you're saying, Okay, he's not
the greatest hitter of all time, cool, that's fine.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Is he tenth, is he fifteenth? Whatever?

Speaker 4 (10:44):
Those guys don't pitch like him, they either don't pitch
at all, right, And if they did, they ain't pitching
like him. And then if you think there are better pitchers,
and you can argue that there are clearly even in
today's game. We don't have to go back twenty five years,
but none of them can hit like him. So he's
two and one, he's two players in one, and he's

(11:06):
maybe he's not a ten, but he's a nine at
both of those feats. That's incredible. There's nothing else like that.
Eighth Wonder of the World might be selling him short.
This is a baseball god. This is something we're never
going to see again.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Probably.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
I mean, you know, I never expected to see it
in the first place, so I don't want to discount anything.
I'm welcoming it, but I don't think remember when Steph
Curry came along and everybody said, this is the future.
Everybody's going to be shooting like him. And while guys
do take three pointers and take more. Now, Trey Young
is not Steph Curry. He's good, but he has a

(11:44):
lot of limitations. Steph Curry is still a one of one,
even with a ton of copycats. Oltani, how do you
prepare for trying to be the next Oltani? It's like
good luck trying to be the next Lebron because you
have to have in f letticism, you have to have
something special. Oh, Tani, it's more skill. There's still athleticism there,

(12:06):
but it's also the highest level of skill at two different,
completely different things.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
That's the thing.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
The amount of mental fortitude that it takes fit the
work that you have to put in just to try
to master one thing as a star athlete, to be
a dominant starting pitcher, the amount of work ethic that
it takes to be a dominant designated hitter, and for
him to be able to do both at the highest
level and dominate at the highest level on the biggest stage.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
That's what it's one.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Thing to do with in May when you're playing for
the Angels against the Marlins and the game that no
one cares.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
And by the way, I'm not downplaying it. It's still
impressive there.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Yeah, we're doing it now on the biggest stage with
a chance to go to the World Series on the line,
and all the eyeballs are on you.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
I mean, you really can't put it into words.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
There's only to your point, so many hours in the day.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah, it's your ten thousand hours, my man.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
Yeah, right, what dimension is he going to to gain
more experience at hitting or pitching to where he can
be this good at both at the same time.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
I don't know what planet this guy's from. I do
think he.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
Still has to I'm not saying to have another game
like this on their run, but he has to be
more consistent the rest of the way. The Dodgers might
need to not beat teams as fast just to give
Altaani enough time to compile more numbers in the World Series, Like, honestly,
it's working against him. You're only getting four games to
get yourself out of this slump because we're about to

(13:30):
sweep the team of the best record in.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
The league in Milwaukee Brewers. That's gonna be the weird
thing too. It's like you go back to last postseasons.
His number wasn't gaudy, and then he got injured early
in the World Series and wasn't really a factor, even
though he ended up playing in all the games there
his numbers, even though he ended up being the NLCSMVP
and quite honestly, going against a game four on Friday night,
I don't even know who the front runner for MVP
was or would have been, because it was more of

(13:52):
a team effort, like he couldn't have given it to
Blake Snell without talking about Yamamoto. You know, no offensive
player really stood out in that series until I absolutely
stole the show on Friday Night. So if you look
at his actual stat line from the postseason or from
the NLCS specifically, it's not necessarily gaudy outside of that
Game four performance. The weird thing is if they end

(14:14):
up winning the World Series and his numbers aren't that great.
You have back to back seasons where they win the
World Series and Otani is I would never say he's
a non factor, because just him being a pitching presence
alone is one thing. But the fact that he wouldn't
put up the most gaudy of numbers, despite the fact
that he's a spectacular Hall of Fame once at a
generation type player, does speak to the depth and how
got the roster as a whole is as well well.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
And that could take us.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
Maybe we got five to six minutes to hit upon that,
because there is a lot of backlash going towards the
Dodgers right now. In fact, Andrew Friedman was asked by
Matt money Smith, I think it was earlier today about
people saying you're buying a championship and all the talk
we're hearing right now, you're an op overpowered super team
that is so unbeatable it makes the game seem I

(14:58):
don't want to say meaningless, but what didn't they lose? Now, Yeah,
it diminishes for some people's sake, it diminishes the level
of competition. From the outside perspective, Dodger fans aren't feeling
I guess course, if you're a Dodger fan, this is
exactly what they thought coming into this season would happen.
Remember all the one sixty two and oh talk. Absolutely Now,

(15:19):
I know that's ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
Right, but that's and I think a lot of that
was coming from from the outside Tuesday. This team is
so stacked. If they don't win one hundred and thirty games,
something's wrong, right.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
Like I said at the beginning of the season, I
went back to April and looked at I think I
was on with Rogan and Rodney at some point, and
to me, this season was about the Dodgers not playing
the current competition in Major League Baseball in twenty twenty five.
They are chasing ghosts. They are going up against the

(15:49):
greatest teams of all time, and that's who they're going
to be compared to. If they only have one loss
and go on to win the World Series and have
one loss along the way, like the Lakers back in
two thousand, that's an all time run, right. If they're
this dominant, that's what we're talking about the legacy of
this dynasty and where you elevate it too. But some

(16:11):
people don't like it that it's non competitive baseball because
they're kicking everybody's ass, and some people pointing out that,
you know, if they didn't have all this deferred money,
they'd have a payroll of seven hundred million.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
I don't know if that's true. How does that quer bolic?

Speaker 3 (16:24):
I don't know if it'd be that high, But I'll
say this, they do and it's not against the rules.
And every other team in Major League Baseball can sign
that contract if they wanted to. When they're choosing not to,
you could do defer money if you're the Phillies or
the Mets, or the Angels or the Marlins or any
other team.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
You're just choosing not to.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
And if the Dodgers are savvy enough and working within
the rules to be able to do it.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
Why is that their fault? I'll say this. I didn't
love when KD went to the Golden State Warriors, sure
because it made them so overpowered, and really it was
more about him. He just lost to them in the
Western Conference Finals after being up three to one.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
He's such a great player, go win somewhere else.

Speaker 5 (16:59):
I do.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
Ball is a little bit different when it comes to that, too, right,
and one player can affect things so much. But this
Dodgers team, they're entering an area where, let's say they
win the next three and they're just rolling teams. Then
people are gonna say the same stuff. They're buying championships,

(17:20):
and everybody online loves to downplay and diminish any other
fan base who wins, So it doesn't matter what you do.
You might as well just go out there and kick
everyone's ass. And I think Dave Roberts actually pushed back
against this, and we have this audio from earlier today
of David.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
Before this season started. They said, the Dodgers are ruining baseball.

Speaker 7 (17:44):
Let's get four more wins and really ruin baseball.

Speaker 5 (17:48):
Let's go.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
That's the attitude it is and I and by the way,
I embrace it because let me go back at him.
So we talked about the last time a team repeated
was what the Yankees in ninety nine, two thousand? Yeah, so,
And I believe, if I remember correctly, a lot of
those guys on those teams were homegrown talent. It wasn't
like they went on these giants spinding spreeze. Yet that
didn't start into a couple of years later when they
went out and started bringing in Gimbi's and a Rods

(18:11):
and guys like that. And if you remember, because I
vividly do, those teams didn't win. No, yeah, Sheffield, I
mean you just named I remember. I think it was
two thousand and six. Rob Parker may have been covering
the Detroit Tigers at the time, and it was Jeremy
Bonderman and a bunch of young dudes.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Justin Verlander was a reliever coming out of the.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Bullpen, with Joelzamaya and a couple of other guys that
no one had ever heard of, and the Yankees had
supposedly the best lineup in the history of the sport.
You at Jeter, and you at a Rod, and you
had Posada, and you had a young Robinson cano you hat,
all these Hall of famers, Bobby A. Bray, you and
they couldn't get a hit.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
You know why they lost against you?

Speaker 5 (18:42):
Do?

Speaker 4 (18:43):
But I'm saying the audience, the reason they lost against
Boston after being up three to zero is their bats
went completely cold. They choked that series away at the plate.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Which, by the way, happens.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
The Dodgers, who had the best record in all of
baseball a few years ago, lost to the Arizona Diamondbacks
of all teams because they're staff and we're not talking
about dominant pitchers here, they're good starters. Just shut down
Freddie Freeman and Mooki Batts and all those star players
on that roster. This that's the randomness of baseball. One
thing I always say is if you have a giant
payroll and you put together a really talented and really

(19:14):
good team, all that generally does and I guess say,
unless you're like the Mets from the past couple of years,
it buys you into the postseason. Yeah, but once you
get to the playoffs, baseball is sort of like hockey.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
It is so random.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
It is so based on who the hot pitcher is,
who the hot goalie is. Maybe one or two hot
players for a team who are not superstars can carry
you to beating a team that's favored.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
It happens all the time.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
That's a big reason why we haven't had a repeat
champion over the past twenty some odd years.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
We'll break here in a second, but I do want
to say this. There are levels to billionaires, and the
Guggenheim Group is worth like three hundred and seventy five
billion because they are a group of billionaires that come together.
So people that say, well, they're billionaires too, they could
go out and pay It's not necessarily the same, but
those guys, far too often those other teams aren't willing

(20:02):
to reinvest in their initial investment, and that's bothersome to me.
They're just out there to turn a profit. So if
the Dodgers are raising the ceiling and competitiveness and everybody
else needs to catch up and spend more, I think
that's ultimately a good thing for baseball.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
And we'll get out here.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
Brit I know you're in our ear right now, but
I saw something from Forbes earlier this week as far
as the amount of revenue that each MLB team generates
versus how much they actually reinvest back into their payroll.
The Dodgers obviously make the most, but they also reinvest
like seventy five percent of their money into their actual
on field payroll. At the very bottom of that list,
of the Chicago White Sox, they reinvest twenty seven percent

(20:40):
of the money that they make. Do they actually invest
into the payroll on their roster? Twenty seven percent? Yeah, Dodge,
What are we saying here? No, what were we talking about?

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Dodger fans are rewarded.

Speaker 4 (20:51):
You show up. We put the attendance numbers up. It
ends up paying for all these great players, and they
pay for themselves by having deep playoff runs and winning
World Series championships. And that's what it looks like they're about.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
To do again. Absolutely it is.

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I mean, I get that people are in the hot
take business for a reason. Well, technically, he didn't say
that he was overrated. He just said that he's not
the greatest player of all of all time, or of
our generation or whatever.

Speaker 4 (22:42):
Hyperb believe I need to know who his greatest player is.
Then that's a good question.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
You're right. Rob has not responded to me. Now we
know Rob.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
You know, we know the kind of circles that Rob
runs in the Golden Girl to a cruise, So Rob
was probably asleep, like at eleven o'clock this morning.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
I thought, you're gonna say he's in Atlanta somewhere.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Oh, well, that's true. Get some of those Magic City Wings.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
With lou Hello Beautiful and Jack Harlow I think is
the rapper.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yes, I don't know who these people are.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
I know who these people are, and they're moving on.
I played that sound for a reason coming in here, because.

Speaker 7 (23:15):
The chiads are playing, the tailor are screwing.

Speaker 4 (23:18):
There is a coaching carousel going on. James Franklin I
was let go, so we got Arkansas with the job.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Of that Sam Pittman, which was weird.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
Sam Pittman was the head coach at Arkansas, very embattled
head coach there for for the last few years especially,
and I highly doubt that this was his choice. And
there's always politics involved when it comes to these sorts
of things. You know who his offensive coordinator was or
is no who Bobby Petrino.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Oh, that's right.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
He almost won the game last weekend and people were
starting to freak out Bobby Petrino's back, and then he
blew up by not kicking a field goal and going
up two scores or whatever that's saying. Bobby Petrino, who
despite the infidelity and the neck brace and the you know,
having an affair with the co ed and the motorcycle
and all that. A lot of the fan base was
not happy that he was let go because he was
winning football games, which any other morals or anything else.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Are you winning or are you not?

Speaker 4 (24:09):
No, So the same same people who act like they
are on their moral high horse, and it's like, oh,
I have Tyreek Hill on my fantasy football two thousand percent.
The hypocrisy is just it's rampant tripping.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
So the fact that he was on Sam Pittman' staff,
people say, look, the very very instant that Sam Pittman
runs in some adversity. We got the guy to replace
him right here. Sure enough, Week four or whatever it is,
Pittman's out. They they they elevate him back to the
head coaching role on an interim basis, and look if
they end up having a good run here, which I
think they might.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
A he's a phenomenal coach. He always has been. X's
and o's. Why is he's good?

Speaker 3 (24:45):
Yeah, So I think Patrino is probably gonna end up
having a solid end of the season. He's gonna end
up getting that job. But if you're Sam Pittman, he
was undercome from the very beginning. It's the old fox
in the Henhouse situation.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
This was like when Jason Kidd was supposed to take
over for Frank Vogels with the Lakers. I think there
were betting odds on that at the time. Honestly, I
don't think it ever happened. Guys, he got his own
head coaching job now with Dallas and they got their
own issues. But hey, Nico Harrison saw the vision. He

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knew all along they were going to get Cooper Flagg.
That's why you trade.

Speaker 5 (25:18):
Well.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
I will say it did end up happening in some situation,
and Frank Vogel an assistant for Jason Kidd right now
in Dallas. Is that true, Fank, that's the case, so
full circle, it actually did end up happening. I like Frank,
Frank's great Frank have probably been overlooked and screwed more
than any other coach in professional sports, considering his resume
the last ten years. A championship with the Lakers, and
got blown out for reasons that were not his own.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Trading for Russell Westbrook, who.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
Was great with Indiana. Why it takes so long for
him to get.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
A job after that?

Speaker 3 (25:44):
The Phoenix was a dumpster fire to begin with. On
his phone, he took the blame for all that. Yeah,
he is actually the chief assistant for the Dallas Mavericks
right now under Jason Kidd.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Well see their boys exactly. They worked through it.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
And also it happened just moments ago the California Golden
Bears of the ACC which is still weird to say
because we're out the Atlantic Coast. I think Berkeley, California
defeated North Carolina twenty one to eighteen, So Bill Belichick
falls to two and four and zero and two in conference.
Things have not gone off to a great start, to
say the least for coach Belichick.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
How how hot is his seat getting? Because there was
that Rod Very if I'm to be honest report two
weeks ago now where somebody said, oh, they're in disarray.
There's toxicity without the organization, without the throughout the organization.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Athletic did a whole ride up on it and all
these jilted people within the athletic department that was looking.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
For a buyout of one million. He'll lower it so
he can go somewhere else and coach or work in
the media, because who wouldn't want to hire Bill Belichick
with his personality?

Speaker 3 (26:43):
Now We'll say people said that about Nick Saban and
he's been great on game day.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
Sometimes the dryness and if you're just a coaching genius,
they don't care how it comes across.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
But the problem is and Bill Belichick, you know, to
steal a Rob Parker line, he poop pooted this earlier
this week when they and they grilled them a couple
of North Carolina people were not happy and grilled them
at a press conference about the expectations and you know,
why should we trust you to to lee listen to
into the Promised Land and all that, and he gave
some pretty good answers. He handled it pretty well. But
what's the incentive for him to leave? He has a

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cushy job. He guys signed a big, long term contract.
Why would he want to leave.

Speaker 4 (27:16):
I honestly thought that women week in knees like he
lost his competitiveness and this was half in, half out,
cush job, soft landing. I'm basically retiring and will be
somewhat competitive, and that'll look decent on my resume. I
didn't expect it to be this bad and the cow loss.

(27:38):
You know, they were competitive tonight, but they've had some
really poor performances already. Absolutely, and you just it's Bill Belichick.
You look, his legacy is not going to be affected
by this.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
No, this is this is MJ with the Wizards. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
I think that's the other reason he could do it
and get away with it.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
Well, it's also and I don't think he's necessarily wrong.
I love Meg Brown. Meg Brown's one of the greatest
coaches in the last you know, the past generation of
college football, a great ambassador for the game, and North
Carolina was respectable under mac Brown. They were never a
national title contender, but they were always a team that
was hovering between eight and ten wins on a given year,
and Bill Belichick was brought in to kind of take
them to that next level and have them be in

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the elite level of the ACC. And that stuff isn't
necessarily done overnight. He said, it takes it's a process.
He says things did. Things didn't go well for me
in Cleveland when I was in with the Browns. Things
didn't get off to the greatest starting New England with
me either, So these things do take time.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
So he's not necessarily wrong.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
I need my quarterback spleen to go flying the other
way like it did with blood cells, so I can
get to the backup as who's this Tom Brady coming
off the bench.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Yeah, it's the problem is it's just the noise. And
the big thing about Bill Belichick was always doing your job,
no distractions. But then there was the reality show that
now is not going to be reality. I think it
was a Hulu, It was gonna be a Netflix, and
then they dropped out, and I think Hulu was going
to do a documentary on he and Jordan Hudson watching exactly,
so they dropped out.

Speaker 5 (28:57):
Of it.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
He's right, and doing the book tour of Jordan Hudson,
their trademarking Sugar Daddy or whatever hell their trademarking.

Speaker 4 (29:03):
They got spy cameras watching them at all times from
Pablo Torre, which is really creepy to me.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
It's all of this stuff that the New England Bill
Belichick never would have gone for.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
Yeah, in a trillion year.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
It seems like he's trying to show another side of
himself as he gets older and he maybe wants to
be remembered in a different way. As you know, a
lot of people tend to change as not everyone. So
if there was anyone that maybe we thought would be
setting their way, as it was Bill, but a young
woman like.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
This changes everything, right, I was doing TikTok dances? Is
that what it is Bill Belichick trying to connect with
the younger audience?

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Has that happened? Bill Belicher's got the aura now?

Speaker 4 (29:40):
Well, whatever they're doing on the beach that turned into
those air Jordan t shirts that they were selling Game
one before they got smashed.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
So bad and so much more embarrassing when you look
at your ass kicked at home in a situation like that,
when you have that giant campaign behind you.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
So do you suspect that he's there for the rest
of this season?

Speaker 5 (29:57):
Bob quiz hotshot.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Bill Belichick's going to be there for as long as
he wants to be because the buyout. The buyout, Yeah, okay,
He's going to be there for as long as he
wants to be to be unless it totally bottoms out.
I will say, if North Carolina doesn't win another game
this season.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
Okay, now we're talking maybe all right.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
But I still don't think it's gonna end up being
that bad.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
I just want to push back a little bit, okay
on that won't happen. The buyouts too much. I heard
the same thing from everybody about James Franklin, not even
just James Franklin to Sean Foster.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
Yeah, people said UCLA is never going to pay that,
They're never going to pay the next head coach anyway.
So what does it matter, Well, it comes down to
the fan app at the aspect of it. Yeah, because
first of all, the Rose Bowl was empty anyway in general,
and even more so when UCLA got their ass run
off the field multiple times under Shaun Foster's watch.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
When there's a big enough for a vault happening when
there's that much toxicity in.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Your city, you know city that will create.

Speaker 4 (30:51):
A change, that will spur a change, And it happened
with James Franklin last weekend.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
I'm talking with Petros.

Speaker 4 (30:57):
I'm like, they said the same thing about the Sean
Foster and he's like, well, you got understand that's part
of it now the buyouts are so big.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
Well the next day he was gone, well, look, if
you have big enough boosters to bring in someone like
a Bill Belichick, generally speaking, you have big enough boosters
to oust him and bring in somebody else too.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
So there's that aspect of it.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
I just I don't put anything past these schools that
get in an uproar with the fan base where they
put enough pressure on you. Because there's so much money
now being made at the top, I think it's easier
to have turnover throughout sports. Most owners, and this is
different than college football, but most owners. We were talking
about the Dodgers earlier with the Guggenheim group. They have

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multi billionaires now, so they will hire and fire away.
That's why you see so much, so much, less less
impatience and more turnal.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
Well, look, major college football is not that far removed
from that. With I mean, boosters are our empowered now
more than ever. Not so much when it comes to players,
but I think boosters are more involved with coaches at
this point in time. That's why Texas A and M
can pay Jimbo Fisher to go away with sixty million
and Daald's left on his deal on the buyout situation,
or James Franklin can go because they're able to find

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this money. Now, the problem with that is the influence
that the boosters have at getting rid of a guy,
they also have influence on the people that you bring
in too. So the thing about Bill Belichick is and
there's politics surrounding this because depending on who you listen to,
the athletic director to even want to hire him, the
board of regents or the board of directors at North
Carolina went over his head, and there's an investigation about this,
I think growing up from a legal standpoint as to

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whether or not they were even allowed to do this
from a couple of board members at the University of
North Carolina that basically forced them to make this higher
against the wishes if the athletic director who wanted somebody else.
So there's a lot more politics involved in this Belichick
situation than that kind of muddies up the waters a
little bit more and doesn't make it as easy of
a decision as you would think. They say, well, let's
just get rid of them after one season.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
Well, Petros last weekend made the point with me that
if USC had more money, they would have bought out
Lincoln Riley last season. My point is, I think USC
has been slowly eroding over a fifteen year period to
the point where they lowered expectations enough to where they
aren't frothing at the mouth even when they have what
was last season, six wins, seven wins, all those close losses,

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all those leads, the fourth he wasn't as much like
there's more I guess apathy that I set in there.
There's less passion for USC football.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Then there's really ever been.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
Maybe heading into a season we talked about this, the
expectations were never lower, the bar was never lower. They
probably exceeded them now, so Lincoln Riley actually looks good.
But it's all relative to expectations.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
Yeah, to a certain degree, there's also an element of
like when how patient are you?

Speaker 2 (33:36):
And when does it run out?

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Because I look at if I go to the James
Franklin situation, I know we have to run breathe Like
you know, all the top ten losses only won one
Big Ten championship, was knocking on the door forever and
never broke through. People were saying the same thing about
Ryan Day for all these years, and he finally broke last.

Speaker 4 (33:51):
Last year when they lost to Michigan. They all wanted
him out.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
Yeah, and the year before that and the year before that,
it was like he would beat everybody except Michigan and
he will fall flat on his face in the biggest moments,
until he didn't. Now, you have to be able to
gauge when the right time is to cut bait in
that particular situation. When to gauge when to be patient,
and when to cut bait early when that decision is
to be made, I'm not sure now, USC, I think
we'll have a big challenge coming up later this afternoon.

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He gets Notre Dame. We'll talk to Noa Eagle about that.
But they end up getting his victory. It helps pave
the way to them possibly making the college football Playoff.
And now we're talking about Lincoln Riley was the guy
that would have been fired last season. Now all of
a sudden, could be a guy that turns USC around,
and not without Caleb Williams.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Back to a running game.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
Back to being physical upfront, which is something they were
criticized for early in his tenure. Could find themselves at
near the top of the Big Ten and in the playoff.

Speaker 5 (34:38):
Well.

Speaker 4 (34:39):
To me, James Franklin was Marvin Lewis with the Bengals. Yeah,
he set a certain standard. They would get to the playoff,
but they couldn't win the big games. Marvin Lewis and
Andy Dalton would fall apart all the time in playoff games.
So to get you over the top, you got to
move to that next guy. I couldn't stand hearing the

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stuff about Signetti. To me is like, why does Signetti
need to leave?

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Right?

Speaker 5 (35:05):
No?

Speaker 4 (35:05):
Why not build your own Penn State in Indiana in
today's college football? Like why resuscitate a blue blood or
put them over the top when things are good there?

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Just I think that's more inspiring. I agree.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
Take a program that has never been known from being
a dominant football team. You'll be way more of a
legend if you win a national championship there then following
in the footsteps of Joe Paterno.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
With Penn State.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
Yeah, the interesting thing is now with that contract extension
that he got on Thursday, Now the bar was raised
at Indiana. What are the expectation levels there? You know,
if you did this ten years ago, going winning seven
eight games a year was good enough. Now that might
not be the case. And he's raised the bar of
expectation at Indiana.

Speaker 4 (35:45):
So all these guys can be victims of their own success, basically, absolutely,
And that's what it came down to with James Franklin.
Eventually they could get only so far they were good,
not quite good enough, and expectations kill you sometimes.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
What were they? Number one? Number two? And they apple
to start this season next to Texas.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
James Franklin said this was the best team he'd ever
had talent wise at Penn State. This is Fox Football
Saturday with Kevin Figures and Adam Alston coming up next.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
What do we got to Adam? This is Halloween?

Speaker 4 (36:12):
Are my horribly long list of Halloween movies. It's a
tradition unlike any other here on FNA.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
We'll get to it next here. Listen to Fox Sports
Radio welcome f and a cotton Kevin Figures.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
Adam Alson back with you guys on Fox Football Saturday.
All right, Adam, not a lot of time, so let's
get to it.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
Mark, we got some scary music here, because I got
eight different categories and classifications for what I call Adam's
horribly long Halloween movie marathon.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
It's long, people, trust me.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
We'll get to like two categories exactly. The first category
is old but not Abbott and Costella meet Frankenstein.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Old and campy and crappy. What there you?

Speaker 4 (36:57):
I mean, these movies might still scare you, as my point,
Like the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
It's raw, it's crainy. I thought it would go well.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
I mean, I know there have been a lot of
these movies since, but the original pretty good. Roman Polanski's
Rosemary's Baby before he Fled the Country also good, rightfully
so the original Halloween and one of my top ten
favorite movies of all time that I just saw at
the Hollywood Bowl.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
That would be Jaws. We're just talking about. We're talking
about shocks just a minute ago with the pre yeah.

Speaker 4 (37:33):
Speaking of the devil, and they are the devil. The
original Omen not the remake with Julius Stiles.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
No, sorry, won't get a TechEd by this by that devil.
If you don't go to hell, just don't enter into
their larry.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
It'll be fine.

Speaker 4 (37:45):
Maybe the scariest on this list for this category the
Exorcist oh Man, which he does with the crucifix. Not cool.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
I probably shouldn't have seen that when I was like seven, Okay,
that explains a lot. Keavin, Yeah that.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
I think I saw a quick show which I actually
was just speaking of campy. I don't know if that's
on your list anywhere or not, but I saw that
when I was young.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
You might be in here, okay. Faces of Death fit in.
I hope you didn't see that too, y'all.

Speaker 4 (38:13):
Okay, I'm sorry if those weren't enough to leave your
head spinning, since we were just talking about the extracist.
Up next, we have the category eighties. The eighties kind
of ruled the horror genre, with classics like The Shining
Red Rum Nightmare on Elm Street one and three.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
Dream Warriors also saw part one of that series when
I was young.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
That's rough.

Speaker 4 (38:36):
Uh huh, the ending is not okay. Pultzergeist with Coach
Craig T. Nelson where nothing is resolved, they just jump
into the station wagon and a whole ass out of there.
Two of my favorites that certainly qualifies horror movies would
be Clive Barker's Hell Raiser one and two.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
I never saw the Hall Raiser movies. Watch the first two.
Do It Not with Your Son The Thing with Kurt Russell.
That's a good one.

Speaker 4 (39:05):
One of the best and most twisted sequels with little
to no resemblance to the original, would be returned to
Wizard of Oz. It's got the hot mangled teeth girl
from water Boy in it. She's like Dorothy in it,
and I guess it's closer to the books. It's actually
more accurate to the books than the Wizard of Oz is,

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even though Wizard of Oz, you know that gets all
the fame.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
With Judy Garbos.

Speaker 4 (39:30):
Jeff Goldbloom is in David Cronenberg's The Fly, that's a
good one. Lastly, in this category we have Friday the
Thirteenth with Kevin Bacon and Jason. A few years ago,
for some reason, I watched all of the Friday the
Thirteenth movies. It felt like more. The fourth one's pretty

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good with Corey Feldman and Crispin Glover. And I also
enjoyed Jason X and that's the one with Jason and
out of Space for something. It is okay, I never
saw that one. And also it looks like Jason is
wearing Judge or not Judge dread lord Z's oh lord
Zen from the Power Rangers mask. He's got a new

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costume and it looks just like lord Z. Like I'm
expecting Rita Ropoulsa and gold Or to jump out of nowhere.
I don't, but yeah, those are the first two categories.
We will have more oh next week because it's a
horribly long list of Halloween movies.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
Oh, looking forward to it. Halloween, some of our favorite
uh Holidays coming up? Coming up next, the fn A
six Pack on FSR.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. That's right, Fox
Football Saturday.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
Kevin Figures, Adam Austin with you guys hit us up
on x at K FIG one and that follow Adam
a coming up in about twenty minutes or so. Noah Eagle,
Voice of the Big Ten on NBC and Peacock Voice
of the NBA on NBC and Peacock He's gonna be
on the Call with Todd Blacklitch for the USC Notre
Dame game coming up here later this afternoon. He's gonna
joinin us to talk about that and the coaching carousel

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in college football as well.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
Also, yeah, we got some more college football talk for
you in our college football forecast. We even have some
cool production on that. And if you missed my Halloween
movie spectacular rollout, don't worry. We only got through two categories.
Next week, maybe we'll get through four.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
There's eight. I was like fifteen of them, right, so
it's just eight.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
No, it's more than we this category. This will take
you all the way to the first of the year.
They'll take you beyond Halloween. I'll taking you straight to
Valentine's Day on this I want you watching these movies
on Christmas, right, Nothing like a Pinhead hell Razor movie
to bring in the new year.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
Oh, you have a Christmas list too, I believe if
I remember correctly, we.

Speaker 4 (41:39):
Do have a Christmas list obscure Christmas movies. That's our usuals.
A Thanksgiving list too, and a Thanksgiving list. You guys
are in for a tree, really are. We got traditions
here that you're going to learn about on Fox Sports Radio.
We've been doing on F and A forever. Just wait
till he breaks out that Arbor Day list. That's what
I'm looking out for. I ain't got that. Mcclon's a list.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
I got fucked.

Speaker 4 (41:58):
This list is a little bit truncated compared to my
Halloween list. We only have six categories here, but we
cherish them all.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
Mark starting us.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
Off time for the NFL six pack.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
With our first category here for the NFL six pack.
As we hit week seven already, it's insane.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Hot seat heat check.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
Yes, the coature player under the most pressure headed into
this weekend, Adam, who do you have?

Speaker 4 (42:24):
My hot seat? Heat Check goes to a team with
more turnover than a pillow on a humid summer night
in Nashville, because no one has had more of it
than the Tennessee Titans over the last two and a
half years. Let me go through this list here December
twenty twenty. Second GM John Robinson gets fired up January

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twenty twenty. Third, Ran Carthen gets hired as their news
You Am then January twenty twenty four. Mike Vrabel gets
fired up January twenty twenty four. Assistant GM Chad Brinker
promoted to president of football operations. And then you have
Brian Callahan getting hired as head coach in January of

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twenty twenty four. Of course, then the GM gets fired
in ran cartin the next year in January of twenty
twenty five, and now Mike Morganzi is hired as the
GM right and Brian Callahan just got fired this past week.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
It is sounds like a very stable organization they have
over there in Tennessee.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
It's rough, you're out.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
My hot seat isn't just on interim head coach Mike McCoy,
it's on whoever is named the next head coach because
the clock is ticking. Also, GM, Mike Morganzi, he's next.
Probably since we're talking horror movies, you're next. They get
to hiring and firing faster than Trump and the Apprentice,

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like that unnamed next head coach has a seat hotter
than the Nashville High chicken they'll be serving at the
new Nissan Stadium they're building if enough of the construction
workers are around to finish the project. Due to all
the firings they do over there, I know the NFL
stands for not for long, but the Titans must think
it stands for next fire looming. It must feel like

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a horror movie they're working there, because whenever the daughter
of Bud Adams now owner Amy Adams, not the actress,
walks past your office. She walks past your office. It's
like the grim Reaper, you know, when he walks by
some flowers and they wilt. She walks by your office
and it's like walking. Papers just show up to just

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appear at your desk, like you're about to bite into
a sandwich, and instead it turns into termination of employment
paperwork that magically appears in your hands.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Instead, you're out.

Speaker 4 (44:47):
This is Ari Gold from Entourage level of turnover happening
in Tennessee Titans. They'd fire their fans too, but they
probably wouldn't be able to get any new ones with
the dumpster fire of an organization they have going on
right now. They're probably gonna tell Scott Shapiro to fire
me just for saying this about them, like.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
It's all they know.

Speaker 4 (45:06):
But like on the football field, you have no power
here Titans. At Fox Sports Radio, they let us speak
freely and uh yeah, so my next hot seat is
for the hypothetical hire that they have after Mike McCoy
doesn't end up getting the job as the interim coach
with the Titans, I will.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
Say, and look, you bring in cam Ward.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
You know, the cupboard is mostly bear there for the
weapons that you do place around him. So I don't
know if Brian Callahan's a good coach or not, but
I do think the deck was kind of stacked against him.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
You gotta give it.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
If you're gonna allow a guy to draft a quarterback
first overall and allow that quarterback to start from day one,
you have to realize there's gonna be some growing pains
there too.

Speaker 4 (45:44):
If I'm Brian Callahan I'm telling whoever my next possible
employer that, like, hey, I worked for the Titans, Like
get a break here exactly, and ain't me it's.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
Them right right you? It's me? Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
I mean even Mike Rabel I think called Brian Callahan
after us. It was like, hey, they fired me, they
got you two man, Hey, I feel you, you know
I understand, trust me.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
It makes sense. Who do you got in your hot seat?
Heat check?

Speaker 3 (46:07):
I'm going Aaron Glenn versus your Carolina Panthers this weekend
with the Jets. Oh so yes, this season. I want
to call it a season from hell from the Jets.
I think that's a little bit of an overstatement, but
it's not that far off.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
We just mentioned Hell Razor.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
We did, but you realize they work in the rank
in the lower third of every meaningful statistical category on
both sides of the ball.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
They're not dead last and everyone they're not dead last,
so they at least they have that going for him.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
It's probably the Titans there, which is glary considering how
much raw talent they have. You can argue that salz
Gardner one of the top three corners in the entire league.
Garrett Wilson, top fifteen receiver Bresall had a really promising
rookie season after a great career at Iowa State. It's
just hard to fathom that they can be this bad.
The issue is their record is ozho to six, and
as bad as they looked in some of these games,

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like the Bills and the Cowboys, they've been mostly competitive
in a lot of these They've just not been able
to finish. They've shot themselves in the foot so many
times throughout the season, and.

Speaker 4 (47:00):
I was impressed their first two losses.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
I mean, yeah, we'll leave it go back to London.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
Last week against Denver, just poor coaching, running out the
clock at the end of the half without lining up
for a field goal, decidedn't to go forward on fourth
and eight. I'd rather you try to kick a sixty
four yard field goal. You saw what your offense was
unable to do that entire game. Kick the field goal
and take a shot in the dark at it that
doing something like that.

Speaker 4 (47:20):
They got helium in those kicker balls, those specially.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
Those balls that they have now they're one of the
most undisciplined teams in the league when it comes to
penalties as well. So I'm rarely ever a fan of
firing your coach in his first year unless he like
loses the locker room or something like that, which I
don't see that necessarily happening right now. I still feel
like the players do like him and that they playing
card for him.

Speaker 4 (47:39):
Well see how they feel after the loose to the Panthers.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Well, we'll see one thing. I will say.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
The Panthers all of their victories have been at home,
this is fair. All their losses have been on the road,
and this game's going to be in New Jersey.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
Accurate.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
Dan Campbell will now remember who was oh to thirteen
to start his career with the Detroit Lions, and we
see what they've turned into. So we talked to last
segment or last hour about James Franklin or you know,
pulling the plug on coaches maybe a little bit too early.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
That's just different.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
James Franklin have been there for a long period of
time at that point, but just knowing when a guy
may be in the position to be able to turn
things around. So I don't know if the Jets have
must wins on their schedule at this point in time,
but if you look at their next few games home
against Carolina on Sunday at the Bengals home against Cleveland, you.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Gotta win at least one of those games.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
And I'm circling this game against Carolina, even though Carolina's
been playing well.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
Oh, this is a direct shot my way. It's a
road game, maybe a second road game Carolina.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
Outside of one game against Arizona where they needed a
furious comeback, they've been blown out in every game they've
played on.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
The road this seasons.

Speaker 4 (48:34):
Old stuff, old stuff. Yeah, I'm taking the Jets.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
I think they're there on the hot seat This is
one of those games, one of these next three or
four games that they absolutely have to win, and I
do think they actually get it done this weekend against
Adams Panthers.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Well, they're like a plus one, right.

Speaker 4 (48:49):
We'll get to two on two off a little bit
later with our NFL gambling picks, but I think it's
almost to pick them. The Jets are getting a point.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
Correct.

Speaker 4 (48:56):
You're at home against the Panthers who have yet to
win on the road and still have Bryce Young and
they still have a ton of issues. And I know
they beat the Cowboys, and I did pick them to
do that.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
Did you pick Rico Dawdles to the run for five
hundred yards against the Cowboys defense.

Speaker 4 (49:10):
I wasn't a believer in him at first because he
had two hundred yards his first game rushing the football.
I didn't want to get too excited. But now, Kevin,
now I can't help.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
Myself get excited. I understand we got a.

Speaker 4 (49:24):
Running back again on John and Stuart.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
Okay, yeah, yeah, D'Angelo Williams, Steve Stephen Davis, Stephen Davis, Biakabatuca.

Speaker 4 (49:32):
I'm not gonna have to get another cat and name
it Rico because I got one cat named Tuca.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
Why not? Is he gonna be that good? He may be,
we'll see.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
One thing that I'm excited about is our next guest,
the Great Noah Eagle from NBC and Peacock, gonna come
on and join us next talk some college football. He's
gonna be on the call for USC and Notre Dame
for NBC and Peacock.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Coming up in just a few hours.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
It's Kevin Figures An Animals on Fox Football Saturday.

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Speaker 4 (50:33):
You know, I see Mark and Breebrey here with the
Pitbull song. Yes, our guests coming up. Big fan of
mister three oh five?

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Oh was he really was not aware of that.

Speaker 4 (50:42):
Every time at the three oh five mark of a
quarter during a Clippers game, is Noah Eagle was your
radio voice of the Clippers for four seasons, he would say,
shout out pit Bull.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
I did not know that.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
Good catch by Brie. Yeah, how's a deep cut, great
pull there, great pull there.

Speaker 4 (51:01):
That the actual song, Well, it's kind of a guilty
pleasure banger. But still wait for you or for Noah,
or for both of you, for Noah walking out to that.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
Maybe there's some irony to pitfull and DJ Dent's playing
that at the into it Dom these days or what's
going on.

Speaker 4 (51:16):
I don't think that's allowed there. Okay, it didn't make
its way from Crypto.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
We'll get back into the NFL six pack coming up
in about twenty minutes or sober right now, as Adam mentioned,
let's bring in the man dubbed the Baby Goat and
talk about the USC Notre Dame game is among other
things coming up later this afternoon.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
Adam, I was drinking dud. Thank you, Donny.

Speaker 4 (51:36):
Well, this and a twelve team playoff would diminish the
regular season. But it sure feels like we got an
early elimination game in week eight, as the loser has
a slim to none chance of making it, and as
Charles Barkley would say, slim just got shot last week,
and without a future game scheduled between USC and Notre
Dame currently the fallout that could come after this one.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Oh boy.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
Speaking of fallout, boy, you know it's on Big ten
Saturday on NBC, and that means it's time to reconnect
with YG.

Speaker 4 (52:04):
It's the young Goat, Noah Eagle joining F and A
on FSR because we actually got friends in high places
and you'll see him up in South Bend with Todd
Blackledge later today. No, sorry, I missed you last week,
but Fox Sports Radio has us doing some big work here.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
We're happy to do it. We're happy to have you
on right now. Thanks for doing it.

Speaker 5 (52:22):
Yeah, well that was I feel like you're like Island
spinning hot fire. That was just play.

Speaker 9 (52:28):
Bars in top tier of stuff right THEREA.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
You deserve it, my guy.

Speaker 4 (52:34):
So Lincoln Riley already kind of set the table saying
he's less of a fan of this permanent fixture in
the in the schedule, with Notre Dame being on the
schedule for USC every year. Marcut Freeman says, it's too important.
You got to have it. Are you a traditionalist? Do
we need this matchup every season?

Speaker 5 (52:52):
Yeah? I believe we do.

Speaker 9 (52:54):
I think that it's good for the sport and just
getting ready for this game and the twentieth anniversary of
the Bush Push, going back and rewatching an extended cut
of that game where Notre Dame comes running out to
a full stadium, is number nine in the country and
green tops with gold pants and gold helmets, and Joe
Mountana on the sideline and Tim Brown on the sideline,

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and then UFC, the defending champion, number one in the
country comes running out and you've got Markets.

Speaker 5 (53:21):
Allen on the sideline, Ronnie a Lot on the.

Speaker 9 (53:24):
Sideline and wearing their traditional uniforms.

Speaker 5 (53:26):
It just hits.

Speaker 9 (53:27):
There's something different about the air that comes around and
talking to these teams and talking about players that have
been a part of it, you really feel that, and
so I'm looking forward to at least experiencing it up
close and personal.

Speaker 5 (53:39):
But I do.

Speaker 9 (53:40):
I was talking with my partner Todd Black was last night,
and he said there are six games that he believed
should be played every year, this one Army Navy, the
Iron Bowl, as well as Texas, Oklahoma, Florida, Georgia down
in Jacksonville, and Michigan Ohio State. Those six, it just
feels like college football. And when you think of the
as matchups, you think year after year some of the

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iconic moments.

Speaker 5 (54:03):
This fits that now.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
Noah, USC's big gripe, and I believe their Adjen Cohen
has talked about this is not the fact that they
play the game, it's when they play the game. Traditionally
in October and South Bend the last game of the
regular season in Los Angeles the following year, and USC says,
because of their tough Big Ten schedule, because they have
to travel basically coast to coast, they would prefer to
play this game earlier in the fall, early in the season,

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and Notre Dame has been resistant to that. Do you
understand USC's stance on that and their unwillingness to want
to budge off of their stance. We want to play
the game, but we basically want to play it earlier
in the season as opposed to later.

Speaker 9 (54:38):
Yeah, guys, I think I understand both sides of it,
and I think that's key in all of this.

Speaker 5 (54:42):
You have to understand it from both a business and the.

Speaker 9 (54:45):
Overall game point of view. From the business point of
view for USC, there's a lot more business to be
had outside of it, because realistically, in the new twelve
team playoff, as you just talked about, first of all,
it does create opportunity. Now instead of diminishing these games
against two loss Notre Dame team and a one loss

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USC team that would just be hoping and praying for
things to come their way in a four team playoff, well,
with the twelve team playoff, a two loss another name
team that runs the table is almost all but certainly
in and a so you know, anywhere from two to
three loss USC team is still going to have a
punchers chance. Two losses you feel like they're guaranteed to
be in. And so this is a huge game with

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massive ramifications as a result. But with that being said,
from a USC perspective, when you have nine conference games
and one of the top two conferences in college football
in college sports, and depending on the year some years,
the toughest conference in college football, that's already a challenge.
The second part of that is when they're playing in
the Pac twelve, the majority of the schools they're playing

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are still relatively West Coast faced, and now the majority
of the schools they're playing, the majority of their road
games are going to be much further travel, so it's
adding another layer there. And then you just get the
fact that it's a really good team outside of playing
in really good conference play. And so one of those
non conferences that for a lot.

Speaker 5 (56:08):
Of these teams in the Big Ten.

Speaker 9 (56:10):
Is essentially three wins against three teams that you're just
clearly better than, is taken away, and so maybe you
only have two of those games and it's one game
that you really have to get up for. And then
there's the part of it that you just said, which
is the scheduling part, and you're putting it smack in
the middle of their Big Ten slate, which can be
good or bad. You can say that last week, right
in the middle of their Michigan of their Big Ten

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slate against Michigan, they had their best game of the season.
And they're hitting their stride right now and they're in
more rhythm now than they would be early in the
season when they might be more likely to suffer a
loss to.

Speaker 5 (56:42):
A Notre Dame team. So I see that both sides
of it there, and I see both sides of it.
Obviously for Notre Dame, you know.

Speaker 9 (56:48):
The idea of the fact of it is Notre Dame
is an independent team and the more quality opponents that
can get on their consistent schedule, the better.

Speaker 5 (56:56):
And USC, no matter what is going on, is always.

Speaker 9 (56:59):
Going to be at minimum a fairly quality and with
Lincoln Riley a highly quality at times opponent, And so
I think seeing both sides of the coins important in this.
But at the end of the day, I go back
to the game itself and what it means for college football,
what it means for tradition, what it means for both
these programs, and just keeping them at the top of
the sport.

Speaker 4 (57:20):
Noah Eagle is our guest here on FNA on FSR. So, Noah,
you were on the call for USC Michigan, USC winning
thirty one to thirteen last week at the Coliseum. What's
impressed you most about them hitting their stride? As you
put it here, it seems like Lincoln Riley finally has
some balance on the offensive side, like you had with Oklahoma.

Speaker 5 (57:40):
Yeah, I don't know. Some that's probably an understatement.

Speaker 9 (57:42):
They're basically fifty to fifty in terms of running pass
and give.

Speaker 5 (57:47):
Them a ton of credit.

Speaker 9 (57:47):
They've been playing a lot of this season with the
banged up offensive line down three starters, but I would
say just the.

Speaker 5 (57:55):
Next man up.

Speaker 9 (57:56):
Last week was probably the best example of that. So
you're starting center, Killian O'Connor is out, You've got Jenrey
Raid who comes in and plays very well. Elijah Page
has missed a couple of games, he's still out, and
so you've shifted around guys up front.

Speaker 5 (58:09):
They had one of their offensive linemen.

Speaker 9 (58:11):
That was basically just I guess he got rejected for
having a final year of eligibility, so they expect to
have a starter that's been out for a whole year
and will be So give them credit up front, But
then you lose your top two running backs and Waymond
Jordan had been off the charge good all season. Eli
Sanders was the perfect compliment to him as a pass
catcher mostly out of backfield. And to lose both those

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guys early in the game the way they did, and
to have to thrust in King Miller, a walk on
red shirt freshman and have him run wild against not
just anybody, but a Michigan defense that's prided themselves as
being one of the most physical teams and physical defensive
units in the entire Big Ten, which.

Speaker 5 (58:53):
Is one of the most physical leagues in all of
college football.

Speaker 9 (58:56):
I think it was a statement type of game for
USC and you could see it the way Lincoln Riley
was reacting on the sideline. He's not always a guy
that wears his emotions on his sleeves, and you can
see the big smile. You could see he was getting
fired up, even after.

Speaker 5 (59:09):
Just field goals.

Speaker 9 (59:10):
Anything that they could do that he felt like was
putting them ahead of the curve.

Speaker 5 (59:14):
And I think the thing that he.

Speaker 9 (59:15):
Said that really stuck out to me after the game
and this week as we got ready for this game.
They came out and they went right down the field
and Jade Mayaba, who I still haven't mentioned and deserves
all the cred in the world for the way he's
played and improved and continues to just look more.

Speaker 5 (59:31):
And more comfortable. But Maava leaves them down the field.

Speaker 9 (59:34):
They score a touchdown to go up seven to nothing.

Speaker 5 (59:36):
They get the ball back and they're driving to.

Speaker 9 (59:38):
Go up fourteen nothing, and Lake McCree, the tight end,
fumbles on what was a thirty yard dash on basically
a screenplay, and momentum kind of went toward Michigan.

Speaker 5 (59:48):
They tied the game.

Speaker 9 (59:50):
He say, Okay, the Wolverines are starting to kind of
exert their will a little bit. And then right before
the end of the first half, USC goes down the
field and just a spectacular touch down catch for Makayle Lemon,
who right now is playing like arguably the best wide
receiver in college football, which is saying something giving the
talent at that position. And what Lincoln Riley said is
he loved the fact that.

Speaker 5 (01:00:11):
The momentum looked like he was getting away.

Speaker 9 (01:00:13):
And probably over the last two seasons in particular, those
USC teams, when momentum started to slip away, that's when
things would really go downhill on snowball.

Speaker 5 (01:00:24):
And this year's team.

Speaker 9 (01:00:25):
Composed themselves, especially after a tough loss before the bye
week to Illinois, composed themselves after giving up the football,
after not taking advantage of the early momentum, and they
really did put that team away in the second half.
A lot of credit because that is not an easy
thing to do given some of the wounds.

Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
Yeah, USC sertainly blew with their share of leads last
year in their first year in Big Ten play, and
talking about Notre Dame because yes, they've rallied off what
four wins in a row after starting zero to two,
when people who have been detractors of them would say,
how are they a nine and a half point favorite
against the USC team that's playing in the Big Ten
that just beat Michigan.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
They had a tough one also on the road against Illinois.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
And you look at the teams the best teams that
Notre Dame has played, they lost. I'll be of both
close games, but I'm looking at Purdue, Arkansas, Boise State,
NC State. There are for victories, nothing really impressive there,
despite the fact that they have good talent.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
CJ. Cars played well. Obviously, they have their two edit
monster at running back.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
What do you say to a lot of people that
raise eyebrows that Notre Dame will be a nine and
a half point favorite against USC in a game like
this considering the competition that they've played recently.

Speaker 5 (01:01:26):
Yeah, I mean, I.

Speaker 9 (01:01:26):
Think I'm a little surprised that it's that Why, just
given how USC played last week, it's less.

Speaker 5 (01:01:32):
To do with Notre Dame. I think Notre Dame's really good.

Speaker 9 (01:01:34):
I think those first two games this season, they're the
number two and number four teams in the country. They
lost by a combined four points, and.

Speaker 5 (01:01:41):
He easily could have won either of those games.

Speaker 9 (01:01:42):
And so I think you look at kind of the
totality of the season with a first year starring quarterback
who's a redshirt freshman who's just gotten better and better
and better and better and better.

Speaker 5 (01:01:53):
As the weeks have gone on. He looks not just.

Speaker 9 (01:01:56):
Like the guy here, but arguably the guy in country,
like he's been that good at quarterback. And then you've
got maybe the best running back candem in college football,
and Jeremiah Love who is a legitimate Heisman level candidate,
and Jedarian Price is probably one of the most underrated
running backs in all of football because he's playing behind
a Heisman candidate. Now their receivers starting to come on,

(01:02:19):
and their tight end Eli Reridan is another guy that
probably doesn't get talked about enough around the country. But
the biggest concern really wasn't the offense from those first
two weeks. I mean, they put up twenty four points
against the Miami team that defensively is menacing and has
completely shut off the water from everybody else. And that
was with essentially pulling back in the first half to

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allow CJ. Carr to get comfortable, and then they realized.

Speaker 5 (01:02:43):
At halftime, oh, we didn't need to pull back, and
they let.

Speaker 9 (01:02:46):
Him rip and he led multiple scoring drives in the
fourth quarter.

Speaker 5 (01:02:49):
To tie the game late.

Speaker 9 (01:02:50):
And then you look at what he did against Texas
A and M, who is an outstanding defense under Mike
Elko defensive mind. They put up forty points in that
game and Tyler up there and drops the snap on
an extra point should have been forty one and realistically
probably should have gone to overtime.

Speaker 5 (01:03:05):
So the defense was the key in both of those games.

Speaker 9 (01:03:08):
They just needed one stop against Miami to get the
football back. They needed one stop against A and M
to win that game in the fourth quarter and couldn't
get it done. But they have taken massive strides over
the last three weeks, in particular because even that Perdue
game gave up thirty points to a Purdue team that's
been much better this year than they had the last
two years.

Speaker 5 (01:03:26):
But Arkansas, they.

Speaker 9 (01:03:27):
Go on the road and just pummel them and defensively
suffocated them.

Speaker 5 (01:03:31):
Boise stated a team that was in the playoff last.

Speaker 9 (01:03:33):
Year, they hold the seven points and last weekends he
stayed hold the seven points and the takeaways have started
to really come in bunches. They've gotten a little healthier,
especially at some of their top positions. Leonard Moore, who
was a freshman All American last year at cornerback, will
probably be a first round pick after next season when
he's eligible. He got hurt in that A and M
game that really hurt them down the stretch in the

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fourth quarter and really half of the third quarter. They
also lost to Don Schuler in that game to a
targeting call the second half. But with Leonard Moore getting
back healthy, now he's back and playing at a high level.
Buba cart Treori was a freshman last year who tours
acl but before that really flashed as one of the
best freshmen in the country. Well, the first two or
three games, it was a lot of him getting back

(01:04:15):
into football shape. Since he has, he's been unstoppable. He
has five and a half sacks, six and a half
tackles for loss. He's one of the best edge rushers
in college football. And then they've got a sophomore, so
at all three levels, true sophomores in Buba cart Treori
up front at the edge, Leonard Moore at cornerback, and
then the guy that I really want people to pay
attention to is Kingston Villiamo. Asso is actually from the

(01:04:37):
Inland Empire. He went to Saint John Bosco elite, elite,
elite talent at linebacker. And so with those guys playing
at a level that they really didn't in the first
two weeks, this defense has taken a massive jump and
they've gotten a lot more comfortable under a new defensive coordinator.
I think all of those factors are probably why Notre
Dame has that nine and a half point favor coming.

Speaker 5 (01:04:59):
Into the game.

Speaker 9 (01:05:00):
But this is a game, and especially with potentially some
inclement weather that's supposed to be coming in here to
Notre Dame.

Speaker 5 (01:05:06):
It's a game that with.

Speaker 9 (01:05:07):
A rivalry, with an offense that's humming like USC's, I
just think anything can happen.

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
No way Eagle joining us here on f and A
on FSR Fox Football Saturday. No if I would have
told you when You're in Happy Valley three weeks ago
watching an epic finish between Penn State and Oregon that
James Franklin no longer be on the sidelines. Less than
a month later, you would have told me that I
was insane. Yet here we are, back to back losses
to UCLA and Northwestern, has twenty point favorites and now

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one of the biggest buyouts, the second biggest buyout in
the history of the sport behind Jimbo Fisher at Texas
A and M. Just your take on James Franklin's unceremonious
exit from Penn State, the team that all the expectations.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
In the world, and now all of a sudden they're
looking for a new head coach.

Speaker 9 (01:05:47):
Yeah. Look, it's obviously a different situation than what Jimbo
Fisher's was. Jimbo was a consistent underperformer, and I don't
know if you can necessarily say that Penn State was
an underperformer over the last several years, in particular double
digit win team over the last couple of seasons, and
they went to the College Football Playoffs semi final last year,
So vastly different than the circumstance of what Jimbo Fishers

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looked like. But I will say that a and M
recognized despite the money they were going to have to pay,
that they were never going to reach the place that
they thought they were capable of reaching with Jimbo Fisher
as their head coach, and so they made a change
and Mike Elko has come in there and completely changed
the culture, has completely changed the mindset and mentality of
the players at Texas A and M to the point

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that they believe that they should be winning national championships.
And we've seen what they've done this year. They're number
four in the country, undefeated, continue to beat people pretty
convincingly and do it on.

Speaker 5 (01:06:39):
Both sides of the football.

Speaker 9 (01:06:41):
And so I'm not saying that Penn State had to
do anything, but I am curious to see where they
go from here because it's a program that historically is
rich with tradition and believes that they should be back
to what they were in the eighties and nineties and
early two thousands of perennial national championship contender. And they're
getting closer and closer closer, but eventually those tough losses

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to top teams, and as James personally said after the
Oregon game, it's not just a narrative anymore. It was
just a fact and a statistic. Every time they went
up against one of these elite teams, they came up short.
And so I think eventually you have to look yourself
in the mirror if you're a program, and that's clearly
what they did and say, are we at our full potential?

Speaker 5 (01:07:26):
Every year?

Speaker 9 (01:07:27):
What has always impressed me about Marcus Freeman, for example,
Marcus Freeman has gotten better each year as a head
coach at an Notre Dame, and last year, and he's
talked about this publicly, he felt they got about as
close as possible to maximizing the potential of that team,
and they got all the way in the National Championship
and they almost made a crazy comeback.

Speaker 5 (01:07:47):
Bid against Ohio State there.

Speaker 9 (01:07:49):
I think Kurt Signette is a great example of someone
who consistently is getting the very most out of his guys,
and we've seen it now the last two years. He's
only lost twice the two teams that played for them
National championship last year, and so if you're Penn State,
I think you're looking around and saying, are we getting
to that level? Because they get five star recruits, they
get all Americans in high school they get Players of

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the Year in every state, but what isn't translating, and
especially now when they had a five star quarterback as
opposed to good recruits but.

Speaker 5 (01:08:19):
None to the level of Dr Raaler.

Speaker 9 (01:08:21):
I think eventually it just got into a boiling point
of they needed to at least try something else and
see if that could change it.

Speaker 4 (01:08:28):
You know, I just googled that guy, Kurt Signetti, and
it looks like he wins. This is the hell of
a coach here. Noah, No, what can you tell me
about him? Just as a person, he seems like a
force of nature. Like what he did, that's the best
victory of the season. The last man, I'll tell you
that a new contract?

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
He heard it?

Speaker 5 (01:08:46):
Yeah? I love Kurt Signetti. Guys.

Speaker 9 (01:08:48):
I we got to meet him for the first time
last year before. It was week three before they played
UCLA at the Rose Bowl, and at that point, you know,
they had obliterated two really low level opponents, but it
was just you know, like, what do you know as
Kent State? I mean, they lose to everybody, right, so
are they really for real?

Speaker 5 (01:09:07):
And they're really going to compete.

Speaker 9 (01:09:09):
With all these James Madison transfers And I remember we
met with him and like, Wow, this guy's confident, this.

Speaker 5 (01:09:16):
Guy's very sure of himself.

Speaker 9 (01:09:18):
And then we get to the Rose Bowl and they
obliterate and I mean it wasn't even remotely close, and
the score was probably even closer than the game was.
They just humbled UCLA.

Speaker 5 (01:09:29):
In that game.

Speaker 9 (01:09:29):
And I remember leaving that game and Todd Blackers and
I are walking out and we're both kind of like,
you know what, that's actually good.

Speaker 5 (01:09:36):
That's not just a fluke thing.

Speaker 9 (01:09:38):
They are well coached, balanced all of the above. Obviously,
they end up having the season that they do and
it doesn't end the way that they hoped it would,
but they get to the College Football Playoff, which was
already just a top tier step for that program, something
they never even dreamed of. And then to come back
this year, and again there was this feelings from the outside.

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I think anybody who probably covered the team and stayed
close enough within the team that they were still going
to be good. The question was are they going to
be as good as they were last year? And I
don't know if anybody thought that they would be better
and substantially better than they were last year. But it's
a credit to curt in the way that he coaches,
and if you go back to his record, and I
know it's the Google meet quote has gone viral time and.

Speaker 5 (01:10:21):
Time and time again.

Speaker 9 (01:10:22):
And when we talked to him this year, he's like,
I'm tired of people bringing that up.

Speaker 5 (01:10:25):
I was just he told us last year he.

Speaker 9 (01:10:27):
Just felt like the program had no juice, no energy.

Speaker 5 (01:10:31):
He felt like he.

Speaker 9 (01:10:31):
Needed to do something to fire people up in the community.
So that's why he did it, and it just has
lived on like eighteen lives since then. But with it,
the part that does come with it is his coaching
style is so like Nick Saban coded now, He's different
than saving. He's got this very dry sense of humor

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that when you sit with him in a meeting, it's awesome,
and if you know the right kind of buttons to push,
he will give you gold, absolute gold. But his complete
lack of willingness even when they're up.

Speaker 5 (01:11:03):
We did the game.

Speaker 9 (01:11:04):
They were playing a number nine seam in the country
this year, Illinois, and they beat him sixty three to ten
at home. It was an incredible scene. And they were
up at that point by forty whatever points, forty six points.
Let's say in that game, and we kept cutting to
him on the sideline, and he still looked upset. He
still looked like somehow it wasn't he It looked like

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he was the one losing by forty three points.

Speaker 5 (01:11:30):
And so at some point I.

Speaker 9 (01:11:31):
Turned to Todd, I go, dude, this guy's incredible. He goes, yeah, no, incredible,
He's unbelievable.

Speaker 5 (01:11:38):
It's just a no nonsense.

Speaker 9 (01:11:39):
And he said it to us because they had really
beaten the doors off of their opponent the week before.
And I remember asking, you know, what's your philosophy on
that stuff? Where I know you want to get everybody
in and you try to make sure people get reps.
And his whole thing was, I want my team, no
matter who's in there, I want them to play the
same way, whether we're up seventy or whether it's a

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four point game or three point game late fourth quarter
and we're driving. He said, it's all about building habits.
So we can build the proper habits right now against
teams were clearly better then, so that now we get
into a battle with a team that's right on our
level or slightly better than us, will be prepared because
we've built those habits properly, and that's exactly what they
did last week.

Speaker 4 (01:12:20):
Maybe if he's tired of the Google quote he used
to switch it up and go ask Jeeves about me?

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
Is the kids have no idea what that means. Kids
are like, who's Jeeves? I mean? Ask Netscape? No last
one for you here? Noah.

Speaker 4 (01:12:34):
What's the early experience like here in the preseason with
the NBA back on NBC.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
I know you've worked a few games already. How has
it been. What can we look forward to?

Speaker 9 (01:12:43):
Well, it's just it's been weird not having you, you know,
to banter with in between during the timeouts.

Speaker 5 (01:12:49):
That's been odd.

Speaker 9 (01:12:50):
And then also it's been weird looking to my right
and not seeing someone drinking a protein shape just randomly
in the middle of the game.

Speaker 5 (01:12:57):
That's been bizarre.

Speaker 9 (01:12:58):
So those two things have already been weird. But now
it's been. Honestly, guys, it's been really amazing.

Speaker 5 (01:13:04):
To be back in the NBA.

Speaker 9 (01:13:06):
You know, I've been with the nets for a handful
of games the last two years, which has been a blast.
But to know I'm going to be consistently every week
having a game, maybe multiple games once we especially get
after football season is amazing.

Speaker 5 (01:13:19):
You guys know how much.

Speaker 9 (01:13:20):
I'm how passionate I am about the NBA, and so
just to be around the game, to see the officials again,
to see coaches again, see players again, that part's been amazing.
And then the crew that we've assembled. You know, that
first pre season game, I get to sit next to
Reggie Miller and basically just talk fall for a couple hours.

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And then last week here this past week, it was
with Jamal Crawford and I get to just talk ball
for a couple hours.

Speaker 5 (01:13:46):
And they sent our studio crew and.

Speaker 9 (01:13:48):
It's Tracy McGrady who I get to just talk ball with,
and Carmelo Anthony and Vince Carter, who was my favorite
player growing up.

Speaker 5 (01:13:55):
It's just that part special for me. So it's been
really cool.

Speaker 9 (01:13:59):
I'm excited for this week as we get started with
our official regular season opener, and just really more so
excited that the NBA is back, baby, and I can say.

Speaker 3 (01:14:10):
We are excited to know what you can adds to
our call and actually decided to join us.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
Carter, he really is.

Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
He's a busy man, got a lot going on voice obviously,
but the Big Ten on NBC and Peacock also the
voice of the NBA on NBC and Peacock as well. Noah,
thanks so much for joining us as always, Man, we
appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (01:14:27):
You got it. Guys. You can call me half man,
half uncrustable.

Speaker 4 (01:14:33):
There goes no ego, best of the best, and I
don't use that very often. It's overdone, but he is.
That's why I call him the young Goat. He could
still be a goat just because he's young. He's that good.
I work with them for four seasons. He was the
voice of the Clippers on the radio side. Coming up next,

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it's back to our NFL six pack. I can't remember
if it's Trap game tap or tap game trap, but
I know it's our beer goggles game coming up as well.
NFL six pack. All right here on FNA on FSR.

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
Next, nobody does it better.

Speaker 4 (01:15:13):
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Thanks again for yg the Young Goat for joining us.
But Mark, what's our next category here in the NFL
six pack?

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
Trap game?

Speaker 3 (01:15:53):
Tap Kevin favorite in trouble or facing a trap game
this weekend? Adam, I'm going with your Green Bay Packers.
There one fourth best record in the league. I feel
there's something missing, don't know exactly what it is. They're
at home this weekend against the Cardinals. We're all jazzed
up about them being a Super Bowl favorite. I think
you marked them down as your Super Bowl champion and
our Fox Sports Radio list we have there the in

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the control room.

Speaker 4 (01:16:15):
Well, I got them playing the Bills, and the Bills
aren't allowed to win a Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
Apparently not. They're forever cursed.

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
It seems like after that Parsons trade, it's not as
if he's not made an impact, huh. But I mean, well, look,
he's still tops in the league when it comes to
quarterback pressures. He's up there in quarterback hits, so some
of the things, even though we might not have as
many sacks, I think he's sitting on two and a
half at this point in time. He's definitely made an impact.
But and yes, they beat the Bengals last week, but
not as dominative a performance as many people thought it

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possibly might be. I agree, So honestly, my issues with
them sten more on their offense than their defense. I
think their defense for the most part, has played well,
but they have the fifth best defense in the NFL,
even though they're ninth in office. Most of them expected them.
It's expected, specifically Jordan Love to sort of take that
next leap and put himself possibly even in the MVP discussion,
and he just hasn't gotten to that point yet. He

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doesn't look like a win with sort of quarterback at
this point in time. He seems more like a complimentary
piece as opposed to a star quarterback. Now they hit
the road to take on a Cardinal team that, granted
does not have a great record, but they've played teams
extremely tough this season.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
They've been very competitive.

Speaker 3 (01:17:17):
I said last week Jacoby Brissett would give the Cardinals
a fighting chance against the Colts, and he did exactly that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
He had them, you know, right in the mix.

Speaker 3 (01:17:25):
And honestly, I should have trusted my good and taken
them in too on, too off to cover the spread.
Unfortunately I took the Colts mistake on my part when
it comes to that. But I digress. Whether it's Pressett
or Kyler Murray doesn't matter. I don't know that I
can trust Green Bay in a spot like this on
the road, with a matchup against the Steelers next Sunday
night on the horizon. So I know that good teams
find ways to win games, and they've been doing that
to their credit, with the exception of that tie to

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the Cowboys. But when you operate on a razor's edge,
it goes without saying that your margin for error is
very small. And I can see the Packer's suffering that
second loss that they've been flirting with all season long.

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
Here to the Cardinals.

Speaker 4 (01:17:55):
All right, my trap game tap. You know, as much
as I just criticized Titans for firing everyone but the
owners who put themselves in this mess by far the owner,
sometimes it can light a fire under everyone that's left.
We've seen teams win their first game under an interim
head coach before, specifically with the team that got Brian

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Callahan fired the Raiders. Remember Antonio Pearce, he won his
first game against the Giants after they fired. Josh McDaniels
in twenty twenty three, and in twenty twenty one, Richard
Bisacia he won over the Broncos after they fired or
John Gurden resigned. I should say, in fact, in the
last fifteen years, in the thirty three games where teams

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have had an interim coach debut, they are seventeen and sixteen,
despite being the underdogs in twenty five of those thirty
three games. Interesting, and the data shows the earlier you
do it. Within the first six weeks of the season,
the better five of the eight interim coaches taking over
in that time period won their first game. So, uh,

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look the f out Patriots. I know he've won three
in a row, but really the only impressive victory was
over the Bills. The Saints win last week, and the
Panthers win three weeks ago, and they're the southeast of
the NFC South teams. They suck, but they can't win
on the road unless the Panthers want to prove me
wrong for once and actually get that seventh seed wild

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card spot.

Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
All right, what is that too ambitious?

Speaker 4 (01:19:26):
I think this Titans game could be dangerous in a
tap game trap for the Pats. Drake May has been
a little too good lately. Could be a letdown like
the Colts, as you mentioned, almost losing to the Cardinals
at home last week, except the Patriots are actually on
the road in Nashville. I will say this though, it's

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the return of Mike Raybels looking for his revenge against
his former team. So there's a lot going on in
this game in Tennessee. I think it's going to be
more interesting than you would anticipate it being.

Speaker 3 (01:19:58):
I will say about Drake May, a lot more impressive
than I thought he would. We talk about that quarterback class,
it was him, it was Jaydon Daniels, he was Caleb Williams,
it was Bo Nicks right there. He's right up there,
right now, right up there with and if you want
to say, from a production standpoint, even better than a
couple of those guys at this point in.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
Time, completion percentage will say that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:16):
I mean, he's looking like the best quarterback in that
class as of right now in this season. Jaydon Daniels
was great last year, has had some injuries issues this year.
We'll see how the rest of the season plays out.
But I'm bullish on Drake May He's looked amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:20:27):
I'm bullish on the rest of our NFL six pack. Next,
we still got four more categories. It's FNA on FSR.

Speaker 3 (01:20:34):
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Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
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Speaker 4 (01:20:45):
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Will get just set and primed and ready for the
full slate of games coming up just hours from now.

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
Bre Why are you giving me that?

Speaker 4 (01:20:59):
Look what we didn't ask for a promo, and then
we did, and.

Speaker 3 (01:21:04):
Then it's not a promo, it's a Stager Okay, and
yeah we needed.

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
It and it sounds awesome. I'm excited.

Speaker 4 (01:21:10):
Tomato tomato. We have an intro and we're excited to Stager.

Speaker 3 (01:21:16):
Really upset when people say tomato tomato, because no one
says tomato or potato potato. No one says calls a.

Speaker 2 (01:21:21):
Potato Brina, No one says Brianna.

Speaker 4 (01:21:23):
You know I actually but you know you've gotten mad
many times for that.

Speaker 3 (01:21:28):
That's better though, you know what that actually happens. You
know I can work with that one. He'll get me
started on your last name. I have no idea how
to say that, Adam or Autumn. You know, well, is
it Ozland or oz Land?

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
Or is it Adam? I wish it was all right, Mark,
we'll get back into the NFL sticks back.

Speaker 1 (01:21:51):
What do we get to her goggles gate?

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
I got something for it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:53):
Speaking of the land of ass, the ugly matchup that
might turn out to be entertaining this weekend, Adam, all right, you.

Speaker 4 (01:21:59):
Mentioned earlier the Panthers are three and three, but all
three victories have come at home. So if you're wondering
why they're.

Speaker 3 (01:22:07):
Only one point favorites on the road against a winless
Jets team, that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:12):
Would be why.

Speaker 4 (01:22:13):
Also, because the Panthers are due to disappoint me. They
live for this, getting my hopes up like they're turning
a corner, making me think they might contend for a
wild card spot in the NFC and then the rug
gets pulled out from underneath me and I'm doing a
flip like Campskataboo.

Speaker 3 (01:22:30):
Yeah, you know what's like an order Dame walks out
and they all hit the sign that says play like
a champion. When the Panthers walk out, it's like screw
over at them, screw over at them. They just hit
the sign as they walk out into the field.

Speaker 4 (01:22:40):
Some of them kiss the sign too, they rub weird
things against it, like I didn't want to believe. Speaking
of running backs since I mentioned camp Skataboo. Like I
said earlier, I did not want to believe that after
that two hundred yard game against Miami's run defense, which
is not good, that Rico Doubtele could really be the

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running back of the present and the future for my Panthers.
And I still don't want to believe after he ran
all over the Cowboys they also have a bad run defense,
but he backed up his buckle up talk and I
like seeing that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:18):
But Rico, I'm begging you.

Speaker 4 (01:23:20):
If you do it against the Jets, well, I'll still
have my doubts because it's the Jets.

Speaker 2 (01:23:25):
I am a doubt.

Speaker 4 (01:23:28):
Yeah, yeah, the Jets. They have a built in laugh track.
I've been a doubt old Thomas. You could say I've
been doubting him when it comes to anything good happening
for my Panthers, I've been doubting it. I need at
least half a season of data, and even then I'm
a skeptic because Bryce Young had that resurgence the last
eight games of last season. Didn't mean that much. But again,

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if you want to be the next great Panthers running back, Rico,
do it against the Jets. You gotta give me one
twenty and a touchdown at least bare minimum. And I
don't care who's playing quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
For the Jets. I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:24:06):
I know it's not Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson or
whoever their head coach wants to compare Josh fields to
Justin fields.

Speaker 2 (01:24:15):
Excuse me, so I DraftKings.

Speaker 3 (01:24:16):
Adam clearly has the over on a half touchdown for
for Ricudado, and he has the over one hundred and
nineteen and a half rushing yard.

Speaker 2 (01:24:23):
So that's where he gets these numbers from. I didn't
know it was there. Am I on it like that? No,
you're not. I was pretty accurate.

Speaker 4 (01:24:30):
All I know is an zero to six team can
still be dangerous and dangerous to the opponent or themselves
mostly I'm sure, just dangerous, yes, but especially against my Panthers.
So there's my beer goggles game. I think it could
be entertaining. No, I agree, it's supposed to be close.
It's a one point game. Either way, it's a damn pickham.

Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:24:51):
Now granted, I mean it could be like, you know,
three to two, we could have a safety in a
field goal and that could be all the scoring that track.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
So it could be something like that. You're right.

Speaker 3 (01:24:58):
I don't know if I would necessarily be inner or not,
but get the old baseball score working.

Speaker 2 (01:25:03):
Hey, if that means a Panthers win, now you'll take it. Aleck,
you get him, and.

Speaker 4 (01:25:06):
Rico's running the rock like he has been. I'm good
with it because that's been a revelation for them.

Speaker 3 (01:25:10):
I'm gonna go to Sunday Night football and go to
the Falcons taking on the forty nine ers. Now, granted,
San Francisco favored at home as they host the Falcons,
but if you look at both teams and where they
currently sit, I think most reasonable people would assume that
Atlanta actually has a leg up in this game. You
look at what they did against Buffalo on Monday night, which,
by the way, we called b Jon Robinson went off
on that defense like we said he would, and we

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said it will be a trap game for the Bills. Now,
if you look on the surface, Atlanta is riding high
after winning that victory. Drake London balled out as well,
so offensively they're right and high on offense.

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
Or for the forty.

Speaker 3 (01:25:42):
Nine ers, rock party Mac Jones both banged up, Probably
gonna be mac Jones. He practiced the last couple of
days this week. Juwan Jennings and Piers all are hurt.
I youku still out. We'll get George Kettle back, so
that would be a big boost for them for sure.
But defensively, you lost your best player in Fred Warner
after already losing your second best player earlier in the
seas and Nick Bosa. So on the surface, you think

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the Falcons would march into Santa Clara and lay the
wood to the forty nine ers.

Speaker 2 (01:26:06):
I'll be honest, I don't see that happening. Say what
you want about Kyle Shanahan.

Speaker 3 (01:26:10):
He falls short in big games, you know, and close
games down the stretch and super Bowls and NFC Championship games.
His game management leads much to be desired. This is true,
but it's the regular season, right, This is the regular season,
so it's a different animal at this point in time.
He knows what he has to work with and knows
what he's up against. And if you look at the
rosters and how well Atlanta's playing juxtaposed to the banged

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at forty nine ers who lost to the Bucks last week,
logically tell you the Falcons will run them off the field.
But this forty nine er team has played teams tough,
and Kyle Shanahan's tenure, he has had teams play with
Nick Mullins of all people at quarterback and has won
games in the past.

Speaker 2 (01:26:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:26:44):
You remember when the Eagles under Andy Reid every year,
whenever Donovan m nab was out, they.

Speaker 2 (01:26:49):
Still would win. Aj Feeley, Kevin Cobb, you name it.

Speaker 3 (01:26:52):
They would find ways to win even if they have
some of their best players banged up. So that yeah,
and then's hy Dermer broke his arm. I think at
one point I can remember him kicking his legs in
the air like almost spastically, a grammatica type of thing
kind of. Yeah, he was selling you he was kind
of built like the Grammatica brothers. You know, so one
of their kids is a kicker now as a matter
of fact, being college football.

Speaker 2 (01:27:12):
So I actually the forty nine ers hanging hanging tough.

Speaker 3 (01:27:15):
I think this is a pretty entertaining game, a fairly
high scoring game, despite the fact that the forty nine
ers don't have a lot of offensive weapons. So I know,
like I said, the forty Nineers are favor But I
do think there's a lot of people on the outside
who say the San Francisco is all banged up, the
Falcons are playing well, there's no way in hell this
game should be competitive. I'm telling you right now it
will be, and it will not surprise me if San
Francisco pulls the upset. Even though it might not be

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an upset on the points spread, I think from a
public perception standpoint, there will be an upset considering how
banged up that they are.

Speaker 4 (01:27:40):
Okay, from our beer goggles game to our old Troy
potential epic failed potential game.

Speaker 7 (01:27:47):
Oh my god, Oh my god, oh Chris, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:28:08):
I feel like Troy gets a little more upset every
time we play that, like it evolves, it morphs.

Speaker 2 (01:28:13):
Into him getting madder and matter.

Speaker 4 (01:28:17):
Yeah, well, my old Troy potential game that would be
Houston going to Seattle on Monday night football. The Seahawks
just went into Jacksonville and beat the vaunted Jaguars. Yes,
that's a thing. That's a thing now. So the Hawks
return home now conquering heroes of the teal torture Chamber
in Jacksonville. And the Hawks have quite the home field

(01:28:39):
advantage of themselves, and that's when their defense is at
their best. And they'll be going against a Houston Texans
team that got all fat and happy during the bye
week after beating a useless Titans team and a fake,
phony and fraudulent Ravens team. They are not prepared, equipped,
or aware of what they are in for. The Seahawks
are like if sharks could walk. These are Landhawks, and

(01:29:02):
they are fierce. They didn't even have some of their
defenders against the Jaguars.

Speaker 3 (01:29:06):
We are a cartoon with sharks that rode like motorcycles
and like fault crime or something.

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
Street Sharks, Street Sharks, that's what it was.

Speaker 4 (01:29:11):
Okay, it was right after Biker Mice from Biker Mice
from That's Bucky O'Hare.

Speaker 2 (01:29:16):
Oh, Bucky o' hair.

Speaker 4 (01:29:18):
That's right, Okay, I did not know the theme song
Give It to Me?

Speaker 2 (01:29:21):
Oh was a rap? I don't remember all the lyrics
to it. Well, Brie, did you have it in your
wrap mixtape? You knew about that? Yeah? Yes, you talked
about it on the air last week. Oh that's right,
I added myself there.

Speaker 4 (01:29:35):
But Houston could be in for a lot of problems
in the Pacific Northwest if their solution is c J Stroud,
who he even thinks he's washed at the age of
twenty four. He said, quote, I feel like I'm getting old.
I'm not as quick as I used to be.

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
That's right. He did say that a couple of weeks ago.
You're right, Well, maybe it's time to retire.

Speaker 4 (01:29:54):
I thought running backs were the ones. With these shortened careers.
CJ better hope he can find those young legs again
now that he's an ancient twenty four years of age,
because he may be running for his life at times
against the Seahawks and that defense. I could see this
getting ugly for the old man, almost.

Speaker 2 (01:30:13):
As old as our instant replay machine.

Speaker 4 (01:30:15):
There get to say every week and tries to throw
a new wrinkle and who do you got here?

Speaker 2 (01:30:20):
In your old Troy epic fail potential?

Speaker 3 (01:30:22):
I'm going with the Chargers at home against the Colts
last weekend this segment, I had the Chargers in the
redemption round because I felt it was a must win
game against Miami, a team that cannot wait till end
the season fast enough. By the way, I talk about one, two,
three kancun although they're already at the beach, what difference
does it.

Speaker 4 (01:30:37):
Make Mike McDonald They just like f it he's been.
We've made it to week eight with him. We might
as well just keep him the rest of the year.

Speaker 3 (01:30:43):
Also, I can't smack Dianel Mike McDaniel's five thousand minute
answers at press conferences while he's trying to contemplate his
next word. It is slow death. Trying to listen to
Mike McDaniels speak on a week to week basis.

Speaker 2 (01:30:57):
I'm sorry, it really is. In He's not inspiring for
his team, not in the least bit.

Speaker 3 (01:31:02):
Now, that game last week for the Charges was a
lot tougher than some thought it might be, But all
things considered, they showed themselves, well, you're down your top
three offensive tackles. You're down your top two running backs.
Injuries all up and down. Kalim Maxtill wasn't there. He's
questionable soon, might return this weekend for them. So the
thing is they do have a top ten quarterback who

(01:31:22):
I think probably could be in the MVP discussion despite
their record right now, because I think he's one of
the main things that's even keeping them afloat making spectacular
play after spectacular play to help them win games. That
throw to Lat mcconkeye in the fourth quarter wrestling away
from a would be sack was incredible, and he seems
to do stuff like that every week.

Speaker 5 (01:31:39):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:31:39):
The problem is, I don't know if you can rely
on him to do that every single week. That's the
play of the year. Oh it's incredible, Yeah, absolutely amazing.
That's an all timer.

Speaker 3 (01:31:47):
Now to mention the running the cross body throw he
had I think against Denver a few weeks ago, I
mean it only arrivals that. I mean, there's a handful
of quarterbacks that can make that throw in the NFL
at any given time.

Speaker 2 (01:31:58):
Highlight Herbert.

Speaker 3 (01:31:59):
Yeah, look at how the season started for the Charger offense.
Though you know there was an emphasis on putting the
ball in Herbert's hands a lot more. They didn't run
the ball as much even when they had Amari and
Hampton healthy. Ultimately, I think they're gonna have to find
some way to get back to some normalcy and running
the football, if for no other reason, to keep him upright.
You can't have him running for his life left and right.
If you're gonna drop back and throw, you better be

(01:32:20):
behind the stout offensive line. If you have Joe Altz
and all your other guys healthy upfront, then you can
do that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:25):
That's not the case right now. They don't have a
Rico to run the rock though.

Speaker 3 (01:32:28):
Yes, no they don't know they don't have a Rico
at this point in time. No, the problem is the
way the Cults are playing right now. I might take
them over literally anybody like it's too bad they don't
have the Bucks on their schedule this year, because I
think that game will be spectacular.

Speaker 2 (01:32:41):
Those two teams, the way that they're playing right.

Speaker 4 (01:32:43):
Now, two most entertaining teams in the league.

Speaker 3 (01:32:45):
Yeah, this based on the way that the Chargers and
the Colts are playing at this moment in time. Knowing
how the Colts are rolling and the Chargers are just
so banged up. I can almost definitely see Indy running
the Chargers off of their own home fields at Sofi
Stadium this coming weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:32:58):
I can absolutely see that happening. All right, Mark, what's
up under the microscope?

Speaker 4 (01:33:03):
I got four franchises under the microscope. Are perennial losers,
but might have been able to turn things around if
they were just a little bit more patient. Hey Browns,
you're one and five. Meanwhile, speaking of your former quarterback
Baker Mayfield, five and one. Hey Jets, you're zero and six. Meanwhile,

(01:33:24):
your former QB and Sam Donald is four and two.

Speaker 2 (01:33:27):
Hey Panthers, you're three and three.

Speaker 3 (01:33:29):
Meanwhile, you had both Baker Mayfield and Sam Donald and
couldn't figure out how to get more out of either
guy because you are that dysfunctional.

Speaker 4 (01:33:38):
You're like the Browns and Jets mixed together into one
factory of suck sadness. God help me, but also.

Speaker 3 (01:33:45):
Wish you to say, Hey, Raiders, you had Derek Carr
and now he's preaching to a congregational Sundays instead of
playing football.

Speaker 2 (01:33:51):
So oh, for real, there you go. He's that was necessary.

Speaker 4 (01:33:55):
I haven't forgot about the Giants. He played for them once,
didnety Or was that his brother David?

Speaker 3 (01:34:00):
That was David Carr who was a backup for the
Giants Super Bowl champion David Carr backing up Eli Manning.

Speaker 4 (01:34:04):
By the way, well Giants, cool story. You got a
young QB who's showing some potential and is also doing
so in a very unsustainable way.

Speaker 2 (01:34:12):
He had knocked off.

Speaker 4 (01:34:13):
Yeah, if he doesn't get down and stop running the
ball so much like that blue tent is waiting for
Jackson Dart every game.

Speaker 2 (01:34:21):
He's probably got.

Speaker 4 (01:34:22):
A man Kv's setting up at his favorite drinks, his food,
his snacks, He's got a lazy boy, a plasma screen.
Everything should be customized just for him, because that's gonna
be his second home if he doesn't stop thinking he's
a human truck stick. But they're two and four and
meanwhile they're former QB Daniel Jones five and one. Is

(01:34:45):
these quarterbacks weren't the problem. The franchises were. And I
will continue to track who won the divorce in under
the microscope you got.

Speaker 3 (01:34:54):
I'm out with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on the road
Monday night football against those Detroit Lions. Tampa, and how
great of a matchup it'd be if they played the Colts.
The next best matchup, or maybe even a better one,
is against the Detroit Lions. After a shaky start against
Green Bay, the Lions have found themselves in their back
being a top the NFC. Credit to the Chiefs for
finding themselves and getting that victory at home against the

(01:35:15):
Lions on Sunday night, But I still think the Lions
are the top team in the NFC at the moment.

Speaker 2 (01:35:20):
I have a decent.

Speaker 3 (01:35:21):
Idea of what they are, especially when they're healthy, which
of course they are not, which is going to play
a big factor into this weekend's game. Has certainly played
a factor into that game against Kansas City last week.
But as much as I like Tampa Bay, I'm placing
them under the microscope this week as they played Detroit.
They are five to one and haven't played the most
difficult schedule. They do have back to back wins against
Seattle in the forty nine Ers, came up a little short.

Speaker 2 (01:35:41):
Against the Eagles. They have a victory over Atlanta.

Speaker 3 (01:35:43):
But more than anything, I want to see how much
longer they can keep living on the edge with these
one possession games we saw about we talked it was
infamous with the Chiefs last year. What would they eleven
to zero and gains decided by seven points or less?

Speaker 2 (01:35:55):
Like everyone they had was a close game.

Speaker 3 (01:35:57):
Yeah, like we all know that Tims that tend to
lose win all the close games in one season. It
seems to regress back to the mean the following year,
which is a bad omen for the twenty twenty six
Tapa Bay Buccaneers. But for right now, keep riding that
wave is working for you.

Speaker 2 (01:36:10):
Enjoy it.

Speaker 3 (01:36:11):
Yeah, But the crazy part is you realize they are
five and one and they have not been anywhere close
to healthy since Week one. Tristan Wurf's one of the
best offensive linemen, has not played this year. Chris Godwin
is out, Mike Evans is out, Bucky Irving is out.
Now he make a BOOKI got injured last week is
out now. All those guys are key offensive starters, impact players,
and they continue to roll regardless. The string of good

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fortune has to end. At some point, it has to
catch up with you, I would think. One thing I
will say is that one of the last major litmus
tests on their schedule is this Monday night against the
Detroit Lions. So in their face right now, is this
Lions coming off of the Sunday Night football loss. I
will place Baker Mayfield and the rest of the Bucks
offense under the microscope to see how they perform on

(01:36:52):
the biggest stage against probably the best opponent on their schedule.
I will forgive them for not winning, because again, it's
just really hard to continue to win when you have
this many injuries. But if they find a way to
even stay competitive against the Detroit Lions, that will go
a long way and telling me that this Bucks team
is actually a team to be reckoned with once they
are healthy when we go down the stretch of the season.

Speaker 2 (01:37:12):
I'm with you.

Speaker 4 (01:37:13):
In fact, in our next category, I'm right there with.

Speaker 2 (01:37:16):
You redemption route.

Speaker 4 (01:37:18):
The Lions were lying to us last week after we
both took them to cover getting points in Kansas City. Yep,
they couldn't do that. This is redemption for us and them.
I don't know about cover, but I think they are
going to beat the Tampa Bay Buccaneers back in Detroit
and on Monday Night football. Both teams, as you mentioned,

(01:37:39):
they both got injuries. But I gotta think at some
point Baker Mayfield and that horseshoe that has been underneath
him and tucked away with all that late game magic.
Even though he is the MVP front runner in my
mind right now, I gotta think this Lions team that
has looked like a machine at times before losing to

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the Chiefs, they may take him out like this, This
is the week Jared Goff. They may give him that
touchdown that he was in motion for early in that
game against Kansas City back at home. Did you see
that meme running around that said, God forbid a white
boy get a little motion.

Speaker 2 (01:38:18):
I did not see that one. No, I can't say
that I did.

Speaker 4 (01:38:20):
It's like with John Travolta with a do rag. It's
I don't know why it's so funny, but that was
Jared Goff. They called him for that illegal motion. He
needed to stop for a second for half a second there.
I don't understand some of the rules with that stuff,
but I know they will be without Brian Branch Yes,
who might show more fight during the game when he

(01:38:44):
returns after being suspended. And I get it, Juju Smith
took a cheap shot on him. The refs didn't call it.
The Chiefs didn't get called for any penalties.

Speaker 3 (01:38:53):
In that which is almost never happens in a college
a professional game where there's no penalties on a team.

Speaker 4 (01:38:59):
Okay, I get it. They got Taylor Swift, they got
Travis Kelcey. They're the NFL's favorite WI.

Speaker 3 (01:39:05):
You're calling some sort of collusion here, a conspiracy right
me with Roger No. I just think I'm just hanging
into the suite with Taylor Swift and the Kelsey mom.

Speaker 4 (01:39:18):
Well, how many penalties did the Lions get? Do you
do you want to guess how many they got in
that game?

Speaker 2 (01:39:23):
Five? M four? You were close.

Speaker 4 (01:39:29):
I'll give it to you. Like it was a low
and a low flag count overall. That is my redemption game.
I think the Lions are going to bounce back in
a big way against a good team. So I am
going out on a limb a little bit. Have we
got time, you know what, Let's step aside for a minute.
We'll step aside.

Speaker 3 (01:39:47):
We'll do our final category in the next segment that
we'll dive into some of the big matchups coming up
this weekend on the College Football Slate. It is Kevin Figures,
Adam Alslin fn A on FSR here on Fox Football Saturday,
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Speaker 5 (01:40:13):
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Speaker 3 (01:40:16):
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Speaker 2 (01:40:22):
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Speaker 2 (01:40:50):
I try to press it again. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:40:52):
It is tripping. It's a little high right now, that's
all no issue.

Speaker 2 (01:40:57):
It's all right. Well, we still got an NFL stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:40:59):
Yes, I'll get back into the NFL six pack, into
my redemption round. My team or player looking to bounce
back from last week, and I'm looking at that Brown's
offense at home against Miami. Both teams are one and five,
So the obvious cliche question is who needs it more.
I think it's fairly obvious that Mike McDaniel Miami needs
to win this more than Keva Stefanski and the Browns.

Speaker 2 (01:41:18):
Who needs the first pick more?

Speaker 3 (01:41:20):
Yeah, I don't think I'm going out on the limits
saying that Kevin Stefanski's job is most likely as safe
as it can be for a team that's probably not
gonna win more than four games this year.

Speaker 2 (01:41:29):
Yeah, but behind young quarterbacks?

Speaker 5 (01:41:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:41:31):
Well, look also, I mean a lot of their issues
is not even his fault.

Speaker 3 (01:41:35):
The Deshaun Watson situation, the quarterback situation that they find
themselves in in general, is not Stefanski. I think Stefanski
is one of the best coaches in the NFL. I
think he's just been placed in a really tough situation.
Uh really, at the hands of his owner and his
general manager both well.

Speaker 2 (01:41:49):
Asked Mike tom what about his GM?

Speaker 3 (01:41:51):
Oh, yeah, exactly. Well, that's that's a good point. I
agree with Mike Tom on there too, as do I
I'd be pretty upset. It's like it looks like the
Browns said, well, if we can't beat the Steelers, will
help the Bengals out maybe they can beat them. Yeah,
and they did, And now all of a sudden, we
have a race in the AFC North. So how about that?
But my redemption round is going to go to the

(01:42:11):
unit that let me down hard last week on my
two on two off picks, the Browns and more specifically
their offense. It's certainly no shame to get dominated by Pittsburgh.
I for your Cleveland, It's been happening for fifty years,
so they're used to it at this point. I just
expected a better fight and honestly a better game plan
from the Browns in that game. Sometimes I think coaches
overthink strategy in certain situations, so the Steelers will think

(01:42:33):
we're gonna run the ball more with Judkins. So let's
not do that and have our rookie third round pick
throw the ball fifty two times.

Speaker 2 (01:42:40):
Clever girl.

Speaker 3 (01:42:41):
Now obviously a lot of those passes happened in garbage
time for Dylan Gabriel, but the point still holds.

Speaker 2 (01:42:46):
Why not give the ball to your good Yon tailback
a lot more?

Speaker 3 (01:42:49):
We saw the impact that he can have, and that
loss in London against Minnesota, he was the best offensive
player on the field for the That's right, right, that
pony not Kevinski was asked about it earlier this week
and he said the game got away from them in
the fourth quarter and that was a factor, which I
do understand. But Judkins still only had twelve total touches

(01:43:09):
in the entire game. If the run isn't working, get
him involved in the passing game. If the Browns are
gonna have any success for the remainder of the season offensively,
it's obviously going to be mostly on the backs of
their defense. But standing on the sturdy back of that
defense is quench John Jukins. So he's the guy I
expect to have a bounce back week against as we
talked about earlier, a wolful Miami run defense, and I

(01:43:31):
think Qwen John Jenkins runs crazy and the Bells or
excuse me, the Browns find a way to get a
victory this week.

Speaker 4 (01:43:37):
I mean, that'd be big for them because they're under fire.
You trade Joe Flacco and he puts up a performance
like that, and both the old guys were doing their thing,
he and Aaron Rodgers. That was one of the best
Thursday Night games.

Speaker 2 (01:43:49):
Ever, it really was. It was spectacular.

Speaker 4 (01:43:51):
Honestly, that's one of the better NFL games we've had
the last few years, especially if you are an older
guy and getting older.

Speaker 3 (01:43:57):
The game that I believe Aaron Rodgers dubbed the Icy
Hot Bowl going into the week the Uncle Bowl.

Speaker 2 (01:44:03):
Yeah, the Icy out Bowl with a forty forty year
old versus a forty one year old. And both of
those guys played spectacular.

Speaker 4 (01:44:08):
And Joe Flacco is looking more Chris Taylor than Chris
Taylor these days a little bit?

Speaker 2 (01:44:13):
Is anyone else seeing that? That's a good point. I know,
he's no longer a Dodger and he's not along for
this ride to the World Series.

Speaker 3 (01:44:18):
But if you know, you know, do you feel bad
for not only was he no longer a Dodger, he
signed with the Angels. You can go anywhere else they
go that bad?

Speaker 2 (01:44:25):
That bad? You got to keep his house. I'm sure.
Maybe that's maybe that's what we have to relocate.

Speaker 4 (01:44:30):
Remember that old commercial I think it was for Joe
Montana football and Genesis and he's in a k C.
Chiefs uniform and then he gets traded because that was
the big special in that game. And now he's wearing
a Jets uniform or something. He's like, I just bought
a house's second.

Speaker 3 (01:44:48):
So, by the way, I know, we said that Joe
Flacco wasn't going to make that huge of a difference
for Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (01:44:52):
You know, two games in what, ten days in or
whatever looks pretty good to me. We can't get them,
all right.

Speaker 4 (01:44:58):
We were also the first to say that he was
gonna end up being a Cincinnati That is true.

Speaker 2 (01:45:03):
Nobody had that.

Speaker 4 (01:45:03):
Of course, nobody will ever know if we said that,
because Bree could never find that audio for some weird reason.

Speaker 3 (01:45:09):
Absolutely all right, So we got so that's it. That's
it for the NFL six pack. Let's go to us
at college football. Now, Mark, what do we have college
football forecast with?

Speaker 5 (01:45:21):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:45:21):
One thing we did mentioned earlier tonight we talked about
the I don't know if I'll call it a disaster, Yeah,
I will, the disaster at Chapel Hill, the two and
four and zero and two in conference, Bill Belichick and
the North Carolina tar Hills losing against cal.

Speaker 2 (01:45:34):
Oh I thought you were going to say, Miami, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:45:36):
Not the biggest headline of the night. You're right at him,
second rank Miami losing against Louisville. Carson Beck, who was
the front runner for the Heisman Trophy coming into this weekend,
throws four interceptions. Looks horrible against Louisville, a Louisville team
that people I think were underrating. Louisville is five and
one coming into this game, so or four and one
coming into this game is one of the most games
in the ACC the last two years. So I saw

(01:45:56):
that there was some sort of push over for whatever reason,
because they're not in the SEC or the Big Ten,
they've flown under the radar. Well, put their stamp on
it on Friday night, got a big victory over Miami,
and now the ACC is a little up in the
air and I like it. Well, got a big one
this weekend between Georgia taking Duke, which will be a
big swing game in the conference as well.

Speaker 2 (01:46:13):
If you are Michael Irving or.

Speaker 4 (01:46:19):
I don't know who else I like from the two
thousand and three team, rip Sean Taylor, Oh from.

Speaker 2 (01:46:26):
Those great Miami teams, Ed Reid, DJ Williams. Who am
I thinking about?

Speaker 3 (01:46:30):
Jeremy, seanahe Willis, Miguel Willis, McGahee, Frank Gore, Clinton portis
all those guys are the same team. All those guys
were in the same backfield.

Speaker 4 (01:46:38):
You're still in good shape. Bree's mouth is a gabe.
She's like, how did they only win one national championship? Well,
they got screwed to two against Ohio State. They should
have went back to back.

Speaker 3 (01:46:50):
The pass interference that wasn't from Adams Carolina Panther. What
was the defensive backslash receivers name?

Speaker 2 (01:46:56):
This is a good one. He played way o High State.
Need the Carroll on Panthers draft? Solid? Yes, not great?
Was it Chris Campbell? Was it Chris Campbell? Chris Gamble?
Was Chris Gamble? Yeah? It was Chris Gambell. Thank you
for the hell? Did Breed know that?

Speaker 4 (01:47:11):
Did he intercept your saints or something? Okay, The point
is Miami is still in good shape. They are with
one loss. Why because their schedule is garbage. The rest
of that way, they don't play another rank.

Speaker 3 (01:47:23):
I do think Pitt at the end of the season
could be a tough one for them. I will say
that under the radar, Yes, tough game.

Speaker 5 (01:47:29):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:47:29):
The thing about it too, is like the ACC Virginia.

Speaker 3 (01:47:32):
If Virginia continues to win, they're playing well, Georgia Tech
has had some close calls. They're playing well the ACC
right now. I think they got two teams in last season.
I think they might only get one this year, so
I'll have to see how that ends up. Playing outs
no matter. Yeah, they got SMU and Clemson in last season.

Speaker 4 (01:47:48):
Still a shock to see them lose this game tonight,
But this is the type of setting.

Speaker 2 (01:47:52):
Although they were at home.

Speaker 4 (01:47:53):
Okay, that makes it even crazier. Friday night games are weird.
They are stuff like this happens has as a fan.
That's kind of why I love him, to be honest
with you. Yeah, you know what, Kevin earlier today, I
saw him at M five seventy OL Sports. We were
talking about what we're gonna lead with, and Kevin said,
pay attention to that Miami game just.

Speaker 2 (01:48:10):
In case I just had a weird feeling that it
might happen. Took out the slugger on him. Yeh. I
wouldn't have put money on it.

Speaker 3 (01:48:15):
And also look at Minnesota getting a big victory over
Adam's Nebraska team, who we thought was a sleeper for
the playoff coming into the year.

Speaker 2 (01:48:20):
That was my dark horse.

Speaker 4 (01:48:21):
Is Matt Rule going to take the job at Penn
State is going to be.

Speaker 2 (01:48:24):
Off for the job at Penn State. He deserved the job.
Do you think that James Frankly can win big games?
And I love Matt rule.

Speaker 3 (01:48:30):
Gomer radio partner Kevin, how dare you slammer? Matt Ruhle's
an excellent coach. And by the way, he's a Penn
State guy. The Penn State ad hired him when they
were both at Temple. There's all sorts of connections there
that link him to that job. Well, he was asked
about it earlier this week. He didn't deny that he
will leave, you know, just very spoken, just in a
lot of cliches.

Speaker 2 (01:48:49):
What happened to deny deny den exactly?

Speaker 3 (01:48:51):
Well, I guess he doesn't want the Nick Saban Miami
Dolphin thing to pop up.

Speaker 4 (01:48:54):
Okay, can we move forward to the games coming up
in mere hours from now?

Speaker 2 (01:48:58):
Of course?

Speaker 4 (01:48:58):
What do you want to start with Washington at Michigan.
I know that's of interest to you.

Speaker 3 (01:49:02):
Making sneaky good game because I think Washington, with this
one loss at home against Ohio State, they don't have
they do have a solid schedule coming up. I know
they have Oregon still on their schedule as well, but
they can find themselves in the playoff mix. The Big
Ten's gonna get three to four teams in the playoff.
I guarantee that I can find Washington in that mix
along with the USC's of the world, kind of fighting

(01:49:25):
for that potential last bid in the Big Ten. And
I don't think a lot of people coming into the
season would have given Washington even a second thought about
being a playoff consentder. But yet here we are sitting
at five and one. I think they have a legitimate
shot and if they find a way to beat Michigan,
that would definitely help their calls.

Speaker 4 (01:49:39):
Meanwhile, Michigan's trying to respond after getting rolled by USC
at the Coliseum last weekend, where Noah Eagle was on
the call on NBC on Big Ten Saturday Night.

Speaker 2 (01:49:49):
Yes, we had no Egle on earlier.

Speaker 4 (01:49:51):
I just have to get that in again. This is
a really good matchup. It makes me, I guess, even
a little bit more impressed with a state because they
went into Washington and put it to them with their
defense and that second half, especially against Demon Williams who
last week against Rutgers went for five hundred and thirty
eight total yards by himself.

Speaker 3 (01:50:13):
Rutgers has an FCS style defense, which is shocking to
be considering Greg Cianol's there.

Speaker 2 (01:50:18):
All right, So who do you like in the matchup?
I mean, come on now, pop.

Speaker 6 (01:50:21):
Quiz, hot shot.

Speaker 2 (01:50:22):
Oh Washington, Michigan.

Speaker 3 (01:50:23):
Oh Washington by all means oh yeah, big house as
physical as Michigan is. Yes, on the road at the
Big House. We must protect this big House.

Speaker 2 (01:50:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:50:31):
Look, they had looked, they looked impressive against Oklahoma and
in a losing effort. I do think that they that
their their quarterback Underwood is improving and it's going to
be a baller And I think next year the sky's
the limit. This year, it's kind of playing out the
way I thought they would. They look good against some teams,
looked terrible against others, and I thought they'd end up
with a seven and five ish sort of season. I

(01:50:51):
think Washington goes in. I won't say they put it
on them, but I think I do think Washington goes
to the Big House and gets a victory.

Speaker 4 (01:50:56):
All Right, Ole Miss at Georgia. Now, Ole Miss had
a bit of a scare last week, almost lost at home,
not to Washington, to Washington State, Right, that would have
been pitiful. Did they overlook them because George is coming up?

Speaker 2 (01:51:09):
Problem? Was that the old trap game tap there for
Lane Kiffin? I don't know. They did not even game
plan for Washington, for wa Zoo, That's what it looked like.

Speaker 3 (01:51:17):
Yeah, they got this Trinidad Chambliss who was stepped in
for Austin Simmons, their starting quarterback, and he's been playing
so well. It's to Tom Brady Drew Bletzell effect. I
can't sit this guy. Are you kidding me?

Speaker 5 (01:51:27):
So?

Speaker 3 (01:51:27):
The way he's been playing there for ole Miss, I
think it's been very impressive. But I can't pick against
Kirby and Georgia in this situation. And as much as
I like Lane, Lane usually falls shorting situations like this.

Speaker 2 (01:51:39):
It's one of those.

Speaker 3 (01:51:39):
Until Lane Kiffing gets a victory like this, in a
spot like this on the road in the SEC, I can't.

Speaker 2 (01:51:44):
Pick him to get a victory.

Speaker 4 (01:51:45):
You say he's gonna stay in his lane of not
getting those big victories in the SEC.

Speaker 3 (01:51:50):
Still, I'm not saying that he won't do it. I
just got to see him do it before I can
pick him to do it. I gotta see that defense. Yeah,
being able to stop a very good team in the SEC.

Speaker 4 (01:51:59):
I haven't seen that enough. And even if Georgia gets
down ten early.

Speaker 3 (01:52:03):
That's what they do, right, Like, I trust Georgia's defense
more than our trolls old missus defense. In this game,
they beating LSU and that's not that impressive on No,
it is. And by the way, LSU's gonna lose to
Vanderbilt this afternoon. I'm sorry, Well, Vanderbilt, I believe it's
favorite in that game, which is if you're an Lure
fans probably is. An LSU fan would probably see it
as a slap in the face that Vanderbilt will be favorite.

Speaker 5 (01:52:23):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:52:23):
Granted, if you've seen those two teams play this year,
you'd understand why. And I mean, Vanderbilt is no longer
an ALSE also ran in the in the conference. They're
one of the best teams in the SEC. As weird
as it is to say, that.

Speaker 4 (01:52:33):
Leads me to this question, is uh, Brian Kelly gonna
get fired here? No, because you can't get the offense
in locks.

Speaker 3 (01:52:41):
I know, and that's his side of the ball. The
defense they fixed. The defense has been spenttacular this year.
Just can't figure out the offense for LSU. But I
still think you've got a Heisman Trophy winner out of it.
A couple of years ago, I will say, And it's
been going around all year long. Every coach that's been
at LSU for as long as he's been there over
the past ten years has won a national championship. Fifteen
one of these things is not even Ogeron went on.

(01:53:03):
He was on the outs one national championship. Les Miles
won one, of course with like a three loss team exactly,
So Brian Kelly has that working against him. But I
still think even if this season can go south for them,
and going south as eight or nine wins, I still
think he's safe for next season at the very least.

Speaker 4 (01:53:19):
Well, Lincoln Riley, we talked about it a little bit earlier,
but uh, what's gonna happen with them being almost ten
point dogs.

Speaker 2 (01:53:26):
I think they covered the road.

Speaker 4 (01:53:27):
They haven't won on the road against Notre Dame since
twenty eleven, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:53:30):
Been a long time.

Speaker 3 (01:53:31):
I do think they end up covering the spread because
they showed a little a different side of themselves against
Michigan that they can actually out physical somebody up front,
but to NOA Eagles point from last hour.

Speaker 5 (01:53:41):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:53:41):
Their defense. Notre Dames defense has been spectacular all season long.
Despite that, I know, I kind of poop with the
level of competition, but they are a really, really good
defensive team ever since getting off to that slow start
against A and M and Miami.

Speaker 4 (01:53:51):
Yeah, they have like the two best losses you could
possibly have to two top five teams, depending on how
much Miami slides after this loss tonight, but still they
they look pretty darn dominator. I think they've had seven
picks the last two weeks of her Dame.

Speaker 3 (01:54:04):
Yeah, and this is a must win for them, even
more so than for USC. USC I think can suffer now.
USC would probably need to run the table to be
a legitimate playoff contender. Notre Dame if they lose this game,
it does not matter what they do because the remainder
of their schedule is dog s, so it does not matter.
They have to win this game if they want to
be considered for the college football Playoff. If they do not,

(01:54:24):
their season is effectively over.

Speaker 4 (01:54:26):
Tennessee. Do they have to win Atbama?

Speaker 2 (01:54:29):
Do they have to pull off the upset?

Speaker 3 (01:54:30):
No, because I think similar to the Big Ten, you know,
if Tennessee just continues to play well if they can
suffer a loss here against Alabama and still stay afloat
when it comes to the College Football playoff RAE. So
I think this is one of those. It's going to
be a pretty entertaining game, but not necessarily a must
win for either team. I think Alabama might need it
more than Tennessee because Alabama has that Florida State loss
working against them, and that looks worse and worse as

(01:54:51):
the season continues to go.

Speaker 2 (01:54:52):
Eh Week one, madness, you got to put that stuff
in the past.

Speaker 3 (01:54:56):
Florida State, the way Florida State has looked the last
few weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:54:59):
No, I love.

Speaker 4 (01:55:03):
Coming up next, what's on our resume when it comes
to our picks for two on two off in the NFL?
What are our records looking like? We'll update you next
and we'll put out our four picks, two on favorites,
two on dogs.

Speaker 2 (01:55:17):
That's coming up here on fn A on FSR. You
just find out who I am Fna Cotton.

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Speaker 4 (01:55:46):
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KFI one. People are responding to our conversation earlier about
Otani Jay at Nobody fr and one.

Speaker 2 (01:55:58):
Whatever that means.

Speaker 4 (01:56:00):
Are we going to have a conversation about the Angels
at some point?

Speaker 2 (01:56:03):
Why would I waste your time with that? Who wants
to hear that.

Speaker 4 (01:56:07):
We had that two years ago? Yeah, right before you left? Right,
there's no need, it's done, it's settled. You got ownership
is the biggest advantage or disadvantage in their case in sports.

Speaker 2 (01:56:20):
It's proven, all right, And that is the Angel portion
of your show right.

Speaker 5 (01:56:23):
There there it is.

Speaker 2 (01:56:24):
There's the combo, all right, March, Let's get to it.

Speaker 3 (01:56:30):
To Angels in the oftfield on because that's the only
way we're having a conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:56:35):
Where's Christopher Lloyd? All right? Last week I went to
and two and sadly Kevin WENTZ four. Damn it.

Speaker 4 (01:56:47):
Now Kevin is still ahead of me. This is even
sadder by two. So far this season, He's thirteen and eleven.
I'm eleven and thirteen, Kevin, give me an on a
pick for a favorite week.

Speaker 3 (01:57:00):
Going Seattle seven point favorites over the Houston Texas. I
think I'm echoing something that you mentioned in the six pack.
Seattle's defense has been spectacular this season. Offensively, Sam Darnell
continues to roll based on what happened last year in Minnesota,
just rolling it right over with the Seattle offense. Now,
what happens in the postseason, we'll have to see. But
for right now, you know he's he's playing well. They're

(01:57:21):
playing well. That Houston Texan team still have some offensive issues,
still has some things to work through. And the guys
you mentioned, the old man CJ. Stroud, it's gonna be
running for his life, to say the least against that
Seattle defensive front.

Speaker 4 (01:57:33):
So twenty four, he's got a foot in the grave exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:57:37):
So I love the Seattle Seahawks by seven in this game.

Speaker 4 (01:57:39):
If not, if not more, wait a second, Shadow, my cat.
I let them pick the favorites.

Speaker 2 (01:57:46):
They also picked Seattle.

Speaker 4 (01:57:47):
Shadow got Seattle minus three at home like last night.
Oh did the line move then I don't know last
thing that I saw three and a half seven. Well, fine,
take the three.

Speaker 2 (01:57:58):
Well we can't lose.

Speaker 4 (01:58:01):
This is our best bet. Yeah, apparently, give me the three.
All right, give me your other on your other favorite.

Speaker 3 (01:58:08):
I got the Rams his three point favorites over the
Jaguars in London. And the Rams have not looked to
their best at all this season. They have another similar
to the Eagles to a certain degree. I feel like
they have another gear to get to and for whatever reason,
they just haven't yet. They've had some injuries on the
offensive line. I think Rob Hevenstein is out again. Phukanaku
is gonna miss this game too, but I don't think
it's gonna end up mattering. I know the Jags have
a de facto home game, they play fifteen games a

(01:58:30):
year in London, but I think the Rams of Devantie
Adams and the defense got something for him.

Speaker 2 (01:58:34):
So I'm taking the Rams here minus three over the Jags.

Speaker 4 (01:58:36):
Okay, my other cat is going with the Lions minus
six on Monday Night Football. The Lions have been a machine.
I know they lost to KC. They're coming home. They
are tough at Ford Field. I expect them to bounce
back even against the MVP and Baker Mayfield. Minus six
is a big number, but I just have faith in

(01:58:56):
the Lions for whatever reason, For the first time in
the history of fandom, people have faith in the line.
Right those are my two favorites. Give me an off now,
Kevin an underdog.

Speaker 3 (01:59:06):
I'm going to the Charges being favored by a point
and a half over the Colts. I explained this in
our previous segment in the six pack. I just think
that I know the Charges are probably getting it because
they're at home, but the considering how the Colts are
playing and how banged up the Charges are, I think
they're a little bit on barrow time right now. So
the Chargers, I think she needs to wait, get their
guys back healthy, and they'll still be a contender in

(01:59:26):
the AFC. But right now, the way both of these
teams are playing, I can't justify the Charges being favored
of the Colts at the moment.

Speaker 2 (01:59:32):
I got the Colts as well.

Speaker 4 (01:59:33):
Okay, my Colts, because Daniel Jones is my guy, picked
him before the season, have a redemption year.

Speaker 2 (01:59:40):
He's having it.

Speaker 4 (01:59:41):
I also got I'm going opposite of you here, Okay,
because of that home field advantage in London. I'm taking
the Jaguars plus three against the Rams.

Speaker 2 (01:59:52):
Okay, if Puko is.

Speaker 4 (01:59:53):
Playing, I definitely wouldn't do this, But the Jaguars also
just lost at home, so I'm saying they're gonna bounce back.
But I did have a rule against ever betting on
games overseas like this, so random, I'm breaking it this time.

Speaker 2 (02:00:07):
Who's your last off?

Speaker 3 (02:00:08):
I'm going with the green Bay Packers seven point favorites
over the Cardinals. I mentioned it earlier. There's something missing
from the Packers, at least right now. Doesn't mean they
won't be a Super Bowl contender, doesn't mean they won't
make a deep rumber right now, that offense is not
inspiring confidence in me at this moment in time. I
like the Cardinals competitiveness, even though their record isn't the best,
and I think they actually find a way to cover
the spread against green Bay this weekend.

Speaker 4 (02:00:29):
And that's two on two, off on f and A.
We're off till this time next week.

Speaker 2 (02:00:35):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (02:00:36):
Thanks Debrix, Thanks to Mark, Thanks to you for listening
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