FnA with Kevin Figgers & Adam Auslund react to the Blue Jays dominant G1 World Series Win, the NBA Gambling Scandal, + Petros Papadakis stops by!

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the FNA six pack as well, talk a little bit
more college football, and also have two on two off
to close the show. But obviously, yes, it is Fox
Football Saturday. But we can't open up and not talk
about the epic Game one of the World Series. I
guess epic if you're a Toronto fan, and epically bad
if you're a fan of the La Dodgers. I will
preface anything that we say in this segment, by the way,
by acknowledge the fact that yes, it's just one game.

(01:02):
One game does not win or lose a series for
either team, but it does kind of set the stage
for what a lot of people, especially a lot of
people that thought the Toronto Blue Jays had a legitimate
shot in this series. And if you look at how
things played out in Game one, it kind of follows
the path of what a lot of people who supported
Toronto would say it would follow. Now if you look
at the Blue Jays in their playoff run to this point,

(01:24):
I mean they've had a lot of these high scoring games,
I mean thirteen point spots or thirteen run spots that
should say ten runs, thirteen runs. I'm going up in
that Yankee series against Seattle thirteen runs, eight runs. So
this has been an offense that's been able, that has
had the ability to explode on a night in night
out basis. Now they've gone cold at times as well.
They've had a couple of games where they score one

(01:45):
or two runs, but very much feast or famine. And
they've been one of the best offensive units in all
of baseball. And most importantly, the way they get to
that point is they grind through pitchers, and for as
dominant as Blake Snell had been, as dominant as the
Dodger starting pitching staff had been, we really had seen
a lot of examples of their glaring weakness being their bullpen.
Because their starters were going six to seven even eight,

(02:07):
if not a complete game deep into the postseason. So
at some point in time you knew it was gonna happen.
They were gonna have to rely on their bullpen. Their
starters were not gonna go seven, eight, eight innings d
and Blake Snell, to his credit, he struggled a lot
in Game one, but battled through to get himself into
the six before it was just undeniable, before loading the
basis and then all of a sudden, you start getting
to the Dodger weakness. You go into the bullpen, you're

(02:29):
bringing image she In, a converted starter who struggles, Anthony Bonda,
who has been good for them, but put in a
basis load at one out situation, struggles And this is
just what Toronto has done all season long and all
postseason long, regardless of who they've played to this point
in time. I think the Dodgers are sholl shocked because
they've not seen their pitchers blasted the way they had

(02:50):
been blasted the way they were blasted in Game one
at them.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
So there's a bit of a shock to the system.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
But if you've been watching the postseason as a whole
and seeing how this Toronto offense has lit pitching staffs up,
probably shouldn't be that surprised.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
Now nobody's been better. And really they didn't get much
from Vladimir Guerrero Junior tonight and they still did all
this damage.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
You walked had a hit, but certainly no ginormous impact.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
No, not for the guy who has bitten on a
legendary run here in the postseason. To me, this is
the game and probably in the fashion that they want it,
that the Blue Jays needed to have a chance in
this series because of how dominant the Dodgers have been.
Because the invincibility and the aura of the Dodgers, and

(03:33):
especially Blake Snell, who had been on an historic run
is now gone. Now it's like inn predator when they're like,
if it bleeds, we can kill it. It's that type
of thing with them, and they saw the Dodgers finally
bleed their own blood.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
And I will say too one issue that has not
been glaring for the Dodgers because their pitching has been
so dominant, it's not as if they're really.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Tearing the cover off the ball offensively.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
I would say I was side of that clinching game,
the Game four, the historic night from Schoho Tiny that
we talked about last Friday. They've been pretty pedestrian, if
not bad, offensively this entire postseason run. They're winning games
two to one, walk off walks, walk off errors by
the Phillies to win that series. I mean, that's kind
of how it's been. If it's not been pre dominant pitching,

(04:19):
the Dodgers wouldn't have not made it this far because
our offense has done next to nothing, despite the fact
that they have all those MVPs up and down the lineup.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
It's the starting pitching and the bullpen had been much better,
well not tonight. And you wonder if that doubt starts
to creep in with the bullpen that maybe they were
due for performance like this because they had been pitching
over their heads from what we saw throughout the end
of the regular season from this Dodgers group early in
the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
Now it's also different.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Guy like she and by the way, even going back
to the Wildcard series against the Reds, had not pitched
extremely well in this postseason in general, didn't pitch well
against the Phillies out there and in Game two I
believe it was so he has struggled. A big loss
was Alex Vesio, who's dealing with a personal matter, was
not placed on the World Series roster. He along with Sasaki,
are probably the two best bullpen arms. Blake trying and

(05:06):
has pitched better, although he still hasn't been great, but
he's been better. Those have been the three guys out
of the bullpen they really leaned on the most. None
of those guys obviously Vessi and not available for the
series trying to didn't pitch tonight. And now that it's
Asaki in a safe situation, you're going to guys who
I would say somewhat high leverage. I mean, that's as
high of a leverage of a situation as you can
get in a two to two tie in the sixth

(05:27):
inning of a World Series game. And image and again,
who's a converted starter that's just not used to coming
in in a situation like that with traffic on the
bases and it showed and.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
He only pitched a third of an inning, got hit
with three runs. That's a seventeen point one to eight ero.
You know, one of those crazy eras you see in
a small sample size theater.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
I love the old opening week eras where a closer
blows a game and his era has won sixty two
or so.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
Like they spend the rest of the season trying to
figure things out. Blake Snell, though, to me, this was
mister invincible, because we had Ned Colletti on yesterday on
Rogan and Rodney on our local station on AM five
seventy LA Sports, Home of the Dodgers, and I asked
him about this parallel because he was in San Francisco

(06:13):
in the front office under Brian Sabian for years and
they brought in great pitchers like Matt Cain, Tim Lincecom
and this playoff idol legend in the name of Madison Bumgarner,
a big lefty, And to me, what Blake Snell was
doing throughout the postseason up until tonight was Madison Bumgarner esque.

(06:36):
I asked Ned Colletti the similarities. He said, there's seventy
percent comparable, thirty percent different. Well, tonight was very different
because Madison Bumgarner has the greatest I think World Series era,
at least in the modern era, this side of Sandy Kofax.
He was unhittable in the postseason and whether or not
he was starting or coming out in relief in a

(06:58):
Game seven against the King at the City Royals back
in twenty fourteen, and tonight Blake Snell, who had been
lights out for them. In fact, you look at the numbers,
he had given up six hits total in the postseason,
just two runs. And then Varshow has that blast off
of him and it changes everything and he gets knocked
out early and gets tagged with five earned runs. That

(07:20):
to me is the biggest development because if this series
is going deep, well he's pitching again in Game five,
that would be a Dodger stadium. But the Blue Jays
feel confident against their number one ace and they have
plenty of them.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah, so the Dodgers have multiple aces on their staff.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
But if this is the one A and the guy
who looked the most dominant here in the postseason and
they're hitting translated against Blake Snell, that has to be
a confidence builder for them.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Now, granted we could come back tomorrow night, and Yammogio
could be as dominant as he has been throughout this postseason,
not as dominant as Snell. But now, look, he had
the complete game last week, and the Dodgers win that game,
score some runs, and we're right back to square one.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
So all is not necessarily lost.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
But I do think to your point, because everybody, everybody
outside of like obviously Los Angeles, I think Hawaii, there's
like one or two states in the country, were all
rooting against the Dodgers. So it's kind of like the
Dodgers against everybody. They have the entire nation of Canada
and most of the most of North America as a
whole rooting against them at this point a evil empire, and.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
The Dodgers were heavy favorites.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
And to your point, it gives Toronto a ginormous boost
of confidence to know that they can get a victory
against one of the best pitchers in all of baseball
in the World Series, a place that a lot of
people thought that people thought Toronto's playing with house money,
that they were just happy to get here. People were
lauding the Dodgers for after they beat Milwaukee in Game four,
how they just lined up and clapped each other's hands.
It didn't really go crazy on the field. It was

(08:48):
business as usual. The World Series is you know, we
have to win the World Series. That's the big accomplishment.
Getting there doesn't mean anything. Toronto obviously went crazy. They
had the George Springer home run with in that place,
went absolutely nuts in game seven.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
They're not just happy to be here.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
They're on a mission, and I think this guy's really
going to show a line up to be a pretty
exciting series, which I'm here for the idea that the
Dodgers will come in and sweep them.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Nobody wants to see that.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
We both had Dodgers and six. I believe correct, correct,
we did, and we're never wrong wrong all the time.
Now I'm not a waiver from that. By the way, No, well,
we're not changing our picks. Where were we, Steve Hartman?
The pick was right, the outcome was wrong. The pick
was right, the outcome is wrong. Tonight does not mean
the Blue Jays are winning the series. To me, what

(09:31):
it says is they have the ability to. Now if
you had given away home field in Game one and
just got shut out by Blake SNeW like everybody else
had and it's the same old story. Yeah, they were
hitting till they ran into the Dodgers. Then I would
think you're probably tucking your tail between your legs and

(09:51):
getting swept or getting gentlemen swept.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
They're still an element like this team has no quit
I mean, how many times were they down in that
Seattle series and not having to come back and went
on the road, Like there's just a certain something about
the team, even if like in their pitching staff. By
the way, why I thought ultimately the Dodgers would end
up winning. I thought their offense has struggled throughout the
postseason because of the pitching staffs they faced, the overabundance
of left handers that the Phillies had that Milwaukee had,

(10:15):
and that, above anything else, is why Freddy Freeman and
Joeyotani were struggling so much. This is the worst pitching staff.
And it's not that Toronald's pitching staff is terrible.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
They're in the middle of the pack.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
They were good this season, nothing special, They weren't terrible,
but the worst of all the pitching staffs the Dodgers
would have faced in the playoffs, So I thought their
offense would actually be able to break out a little bit,
and the look they had their opportunities. I mean, really,
what it came down to the Dodgers at the bases
loaded a couple of times, did very little with it, right.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
Got a couple of runs off of Ye Savage, who
pitched like three times in the regular season, and all
of a sudden, he just got drafted.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Adam the drafted him in April one, just got here.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
Maybe he's the Madison bum Garner of the post Sayson.
Once things are all said and done, he gave up
two runs and four earned, but you will take that.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
He had to work his way through it. He definitely
had to batch.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
It was a hot it was a high wire act,
and he minimized the damage.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
And if you're a Dodger fan, you would say, this
is something you've been dealing with all season long, not
being able to cash in, not be able to get
those big innings consistently.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
In the second half of the season.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
I thought, when the Jays had the bases loaded in
the first against Snell, that might have been their best
opportunity and they didn't cash in, and I thought that
was gonna come back to haunt them. Little did I
know the sixth inning would come around, and before that
they had already tied it too, and that was really
the turning point of the game. As we're she in
her replay here at Fox Sports Radio Studios, Emachian's on

(11:33):
the mound, bases loaded zero house. I don't know if
this is gonna go very well for him, Kevin. I
got a good feeling about this for the Toronto Blue
Jays here, guarantee. But this Blue Jay's team, anybody that
gets to this point, feels like they're a team of destiny.

Speaker 5 (11:50):
Right.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
So if you then take down the team that's heavily
favored in this series, whether you're going off of betting
odds or just what the general public think, and you
win game.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
One, what does Terry Rozier think?

Speaker 4 (12:03):
That's what matters to me. Well, we'll get to that
in the next segment. But you win game one in
dominating fashion where the crowd is into it like this,
and this is the most excitement that they've had up
North since twenty nineteen with Jurassic Park and the Toronto
Raptors and Kawhi Leonard. They haven't had a situation like this,

(12:24):
and now you reward them for showing up the way
they did tonight. With a big victory like this in
Game one, you got all the momentum in the world.
I know they say momentum is just the next starting
pitcher is as good as that, but I think this
was meaningful. Tonight, you lose Game one, I would have
no hope if I was a Toronto Blue Jays fan.
No hope.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
I will say, even if the Dodgers lose tomorrow night
or tonight, depending on where you mean listen listening here
coast to coast here on Fox Sports Radio, I don't
know that I would say that the Dodgers are done
in this series, going back home with three games now
and not with the two three two format. Yeah, so
I think it's great for Toronto. I think it's great
for this series because the last thing I wanted to
see again would have been a sweep by the Dodgers

(13:05):
or sweep by either team. And I think it's it
turns out to be a really good matchup. And I
think we really got some good going here. I really do.
I'm looking forward to this. That's probably be fun.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
The biggest takeaway here we have a legit World series.
I don't see either team sweeping or either team winning
in five games. Now, I think we're going back to
Toronto is the point.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
I think so too.

Speaker 4 (13:27):
Whoever wins it is gonna have to do so yeah,
in Game six or seven.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
And by the way, well, since we're talking about the
World Series and the Dodgers, and there's been so much
talk and so many articles written and discussion topics on
shows about whether or not the Dodgers are buying championships
and if they're bad for baseball. Yes, the Dodgers have,
by the way, the second highest payroll in the Major
League Baseball, the first.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
The New York Mets are not even in the postseason.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
Okay, can I add some context of this though? Sure,
what happens if you add in all the deferred money
guys who are out there on the field playing that
just aren't counted against the cap right now.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
It's sure, you can add that if you want, But
I mean, that's not they're physically out there. Yeah, but
they're not offering contracts that nobody else can offer.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
You're right, So if I've met them, playing field is level.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
When it comes to that, the Dodgers, the Mets could
have offered it the first salary contract to wan Soto,
he didn't want one.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
I'm just saying the talent disparity is still there even
though one team may have a slightly higher payroll this season,
because the other team is deferring a bunch of guys
that aren't counting on the book.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
The argument saying that it's fair.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Whether it's fair or not, it's fair because again, they're
not doing anything fair. Okay, So that's what the discussion is.
So I'm not saying that there isn't a disparity in talent.
I'll acknowledge that, but the idea that they're paying guys
more than anybody else can pay them. By the way,
Toronto has the fifth highest payroll in all of baseball,
So it's not like there's some bottom feeder underdog let's
get one. They're like they're an Oakland A's or something

(14:55):
out here.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
Not saying that, I just think it's been a little
bit mischaracterized because everybody keeps bringing up the Mets. Well,
they have a bigger payroll than the Dodgers, and where
are they.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Well even still, whether deferred money or not, they both
have overinflated giant payrolls one and two. One did not
make the postseason one is in the World Series. I
think just based on that, it proves to you that
just because you spend money, it doesn't guarantee you a thing.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
You're right about that it never does.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Well, not if you ask a lot of fans out there,
this Dodgers team.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
Look, the Yankees went, let's see, fifteen years just about No,
they went from the year two thousand till two nine
without winning a World Series while always having the highest
payroll and going out and getting Giambi and getting a
rod and bait. Sure they'd need it in Cheffield.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
And by the way, I'll say this to Adam because
people might might forget this. So that last team that
went back to back was what ninety nine two thousand
or ninety eight ninety.

Speaker 4 (15:55):
Nine against Atlanta and then the New York Mets.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
So it wasn't until after that because those teams are
built mostly around homegrown players. Those are great players and
Hall of famers and you know your Jeters and your
Bernie Williams and guys like that. It wasn't until after
that that O one season when they beat Seattle that
had that great team that a Rob was on that
team and Griffy and all that it was after that
that they decided to go out and get guys like
Giambi and go out to get Sheffield, And they didn't

(16:20):
win a World Series, like you mentioned, for almost a
decade that entire time, when they had this overinflated payroll,
where the gap between them being the highest spending team
and the second highest spending team was astronomical, even more
so than the Mets and Dodgers than anybody else right now,
and they weren't winning championships back then. That, by the way,
those Yankee teams is the reason why the luxury tax
system is in place to begin with. Yeah, there wasn't

(16:42):
a cap at that point in time, and people said,
the Yankees are quote unquote buying titles. We have to
find a way to even the playing field, even though
they never won one. That's when the luxury attack system
was put in place because people felt that the Yankees
were buying every single possible great free agent out there.

Speaker 6 (16:56):
Now.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
It's not like they were the Mets this season. They
were getting there. They lost to Arizona in two thousand
and one in seven games. They lost the Marlins in
two thousand and three at the Red Sox collapse in
two thousand and four, right, they lose four straight the
miracle with Boston. They were hanging around and in contention,

(17:17):
but it did feel like they lost a little bit
of their culture, a little bit of their identity. The
scrappy guys like Knob Bloc, Ortino Martinez or Scott Brocious,
the guys that won those four championships in the mid
nineties till the year two thousand, there was a different makeup.
It did feel more homegrown. Yeah, and buying a championship,

(17:39):
as you mentioned earlier, does not guarantee anything. This Dodgers team, though,
they look like the most stacked and well put together
team in a variety of ways. Because when you brought
in Andrew Friedman, the first thing I thought was what
happens with a guy like this who was able to
construct great rosters? Was sixty million dollars with the Tampa

(18:01):
Bay Rays. Who can scout, who can bring in guys
through a farm system that end up becoming stars? And
then what happens if that guy can also have an
open checkbook for everybody else on the free agent market.
So they went out, they didn't just spend it on
anyone they thought they were bringing in and they were
right culture type of guys. I don't know how the

(18:23):
hell the Boston Red Sox gave him Mookie bets Boston. Yeah,
so the Red Sox traded Mookie.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
The Atlanta Braves chose not to offer Freddy Freeman a contract.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
Was his agent was. That was a weird thing where
his agent there may have been a contract, and I
think he left his agent after that. But that was
a weird thing where Freddy Freeman had had some I
guess second thoughts for a bit. Now he's a true
blue Dodger forever. But yeah, they went out and got
guys that were of good character and weren't just numbers

(18:56):
guys and superstars in that way.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yeah, that fit what that fit what they did, you know.
I mean, they didn't necessarily go out and chase after
Wan Soto. It sounds like they were luke warm on
Bryce Harper when he was available. Yeah, you know, so
they don't just go out and just try to buy
every great free agent that's available.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
They have to make sure.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Manny Machado they had in house and decided not to
bring him back, and he's a phenomenal player, you know,
because he didn't fit their their locker room and their
team culture.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
And they went to the World Series in twenty seventeen,
could have won despite the cheating going on with.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yankee should have gone Yankee, we should have had Yankees.
Dodgers in twenty seventeen shouldn't gotten to that point.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
The Red Sox, who by the way, had Mookie and
they admitted to doing some sign stealing stuff in twenty eighteen,
also beat the Dodgers. They had some tough luck and
now the worm has turned and everybody's looking at them
as being the evil vampire or the villain in this case,
when they're like, wait a second, we're the team that
got screwed.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
Yeah, how does that work?

Speaker 4 (19:53):
So yeah, we're building a great team. We're taking away
show hail Tani, who the Angels could have retained. He
offered them the ability to just match the seven hundred
million from the Dodgers that's on them, by the.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Way, the exact same contract he signed with the Dodgers,
he could have signed with Toronto.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
So this idea that.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
It was inevitable that he was going to go to
the Dodgers and nobody else offered him or anything like that.
He could have signed with Toronto. Oh, they threw the
money out there for him.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
Part of the excitement of beating the Dodgers and that
possibility for the Blue Jays certainty.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
The chance is we don't need you or whatever it
was they had late in the seventh inning, eighth inning,
whatever it was.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
And he went back to struggling a little bit tonight.
You sure did. We'll see how the Hales hit a
home run in garbage time.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
In garbage time, it didn't even matter.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
Your guard didn't matter. Adam are broadcasting in the World
Series in garbage time.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
But hey, live from the Fox Sports Radio studios, Kevin
Figures and Adam Allison F and A on FSR.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
What's coming up next?

Speaker 4 (20:53):
Ooh, we gotta talk about the NBA and this betting scams.

Speaker 6 (20:56):
Oh, a couple of shekels on.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
That.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Got a couple of Paul's coming in too. Oh man, Well,
of course Manuel's checking in. Maybe we'll get a couple
of your calls in on the other side as well.
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a kfak one. I'm a follow out of may Do
We got some tweets coming in here, Kevin.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Yeah, of course, Nature boy checks in, as he seems
to do every single week. He says, if I were
a Barger who hit the grand Slam tonight, I would
have retire today with a one thousand batting average and
a grand Slam of my first ward series at bat
major mic drop, and with the the Kobe Bryant Mamba
out gift from his final game.

Speaker 4 (22:42):
It's only one thousand. It feels like it should be more.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
And you did ask me a nature boy as well,
how do you spell mollywop as I used to drop
during my updates here at FSR. You did spell it correctly,
so that's it. How do you spell molliwop that you
used to use? They should be spray painted in the
Dodger's locker. Yes, they were, in effect molly walked on
Friday Night by the Toronto Blue Jays.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
I can say that that's.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
A fair characterization. Yes it is.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
We got a couple of calls in before we talk
about this FBI NBA gambling probe. Can we go to
our guy Manuel Manuel and Guardina oh Man well, well man,
he was popping.

Speaker 5 (23:17):
Oh f a Your boy Man well is on in.
Guardina is on FSSR with fn A Hey man, nothing
but love. I heard you guys, since you guys took
over for Planks to the gangster who had took over
for Bernie Friddle, a couple of FSR legends, and you
guys have been doing the damn thing. You know, guys,

(23:40):
we grew up with old Kevin figures and Vermont and
the smug out of my Oslin.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
Hey, do you better backup off of me?

Speaker 9 (23:53):
Man?

Speaker 4 (23:53):
Well, my clippers one big tonight over the Suns. I'm
more smug than usual.

Speaker 5 (23:57):
Hey, nah, man, That's why I love you, Adam, because
you know what, Yeah, you're a fair guy most of
the times.

Speaker 4 (24:08):
Accurate.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
All right, what's on your mind?

Speaker 6 (24:09):
Manny?

Speaker 5 (24:10):
I was digging you guys's monologue. You know this series
is far from over. It was the proverbial everybody has
a plan until they get punched in the face, right.
You know. It was our strength against their strength. Tonight
they put up an eleventh spot. They did what they
had to do. I still have no doubt that we're
going to rebound. I got Dodgers in five. I'm hoping

(24:35):
that we can close it out. I'm pretty confident. The
one thing that I do have a little bit of
an issue with and I know Kevin figures remember this
bad flashbacks to Barrett Robbins. I know the Veia thing is.
I don't know what's going on with the God bless

(24:55):
their family. I hope everything's all right, but just us
losing a main cog in our engine like ves Yah
at this time, like we did in two thousand and
two with Baron Robbins doing what he did, going loco
too loco and freaking donkey show TJ. You know, it's

(25:16):
just a crazy you know, on this on this world
cheerieson man. I know that we got this news, you know,
yesterday morning, like out of nowhere. Uh, that's a guy
that we've been depending on.

Speaker 4 (25:28):
Not only that but unexpected adversity.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Yeah, yeah that And look, you know you lose and
thank you for the call man. Well we appreciate the
love support through the year's brother.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
Well, thank you. Yeah, they lose.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Alex Vessia one of the most important bullpen arms not
to be understated as Toronto getting one of their best
hitters in Boba Schett back in the line up hadn't
played in a month, had an immediate impact.

Speaker 4 (25:50):
Is it weird that every time I hear Boba sheet
I'm thinking that.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
No different than every time I hear oed you Agoba.
I Thinkoba, you're my only hope.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
Yes, one of the best players for the New York
Knicks in the league.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
All right, one more, one more Andrew and Bakersfield?

Speaker 4 (26:09):
What's going on?

Speaker 9 (26:11):
What's up, Kevin and Adams? I'm a Dodgerson. I was
listening to Dave Roberts being interviewed by Colin this morning,
and Colin was asking him, how do you guys kind
of escape just coasting? And Dave Roberts said, well, I
tell the guys it's more like a street fight than

(26:32):
a professional boxing match. And I like that. So when
the Dodgers, when Snow gave up that home run to
run home run, that was a mistake, okay, but it
was like man Manuel said, a punch in the face,
and I thought to myself, you guys got to knuckle up,
you know, And then I realized the song was actually
squabble up.

Speaker 6 (26:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (26:55):
I think they need to you know, they need to fight,
you know, that's my thought.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
All right, thank you, Andrew.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
Yeah, but a knuck if you buck they got thrown
behind the alley and got their asses whipped.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
You're saying it was Rocky five. It was a street fight.
Most people were not a fan of that one, especially
coming off of Rocky four.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
I think if the Dodgers had their preference, it will
be a boxing match, because I it was a street fight.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
It looks more like you did on Friday Night.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
And they're getting their ass whooped from one side of
Toronto to the other.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
Yeah, and it feels like anything could be thrown ashi
out of nowhere. There's no rules. It's that type of
situation up in Toronto.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
All right, So tell me what the odds are now
of Toronto winning the World Series? There, Adam or sha
a lava call over to Terry rose Year instead.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
I don't know, you could be his one phone call.
If you get that call from Terry Rozi right now.
That's the way it's got to be. Because the NBA
made news for all the wrong reasons to start the season.
This has nothing to do with the Clippers and aspiration. Oh,
trust me, a different investigation.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Yeah, Kawhi Leonard a Seve Balmer wiping their brow like
all right, cool, we're good.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
Pablo Torre is on a different story right now. He's
a dog on a bone right now. For what happened
with this gambling situation with ultiple not just players, but
a former player, a current player, and a current player
who's currently a head coach in Chauncey Billups, a Hall
of famer, all got arrested earlier yesterday for different types

(28:16):
of gambling allegations against them. With Terry Rozier, we're talking
about fixing games and fixing unders where he left a
game in twenty twenty three with the Charlotte Hornets after
ten minutes and all this funny money came in on
his unders on prop bets for that game with Chauncey Billups. Well,
it could be about insider information at some point. Certainly

(28:40):
right now it's about a fixed mafia poker game that
he was allegedly involved in, where he was going after
big fish. The fish they were.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Calling, Yeah, who want to play with big time celebrities
like Chauncey Billups and others.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
And so he's one of the guys there. That was
the allure of bringing in you could call him the
bait for these big spenders. And the games were fixed.
There was X ray vision, there were there was hidden cameras.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
It's pretty elaborate.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
A rigged or fixed card shuffler. So, and what's crazy
about that is professional gamblers, poker players were caught on
a podcast that resurfaced.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
Yesterday a couple of years ago, right second.

Speaker 4 (29:25):
Twenty twenty three, is saying they knew not to go
to these.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Card games, right, they knew the fix it jake was
up when it came to that, Yes, because.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
The best players were always losing. There was one reason
they knew something was up. And they talked about Chauncey
Billups two years ago. So this case has been building
by the FBI and the FEDS for over a year.
But Terry Rozier was cleared by the NBA.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah, that was the point that I wanted to bring
up the fact that the NBA did their investigation into
Rosier because this is not something new when it comes
to him over these past couple of years, and they
exonerated him.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
They said there was nothing to see here.

Speaker 4 (29:59):
Well, and I thought there was nothing to see also
because he leaves that game after ten minutes with a
foot injury and didn't play the rest of that season,
So I felt like, okay, it must have been a
legit injury. He didn't come back the very next game. Well,
now there's more coming out about that from Brian Winhorse
of ESPN.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Yeah, so this is a Brian win Horse was on
Rich Eisen Show earlier this week and offered some more
insight that I had not heard from anywhere else as
to why Terry Rogier actually did sit out the remainder
of that season.

Speaker 6 (30:27):
Do we have that mark?

Speaker 10 (30:28):
The NBA at some point is going to have to
explain why Terry Rogier was allowed to keep playing.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
And I just want to point something out.

Speaker 10 (30:36):
The sportsbooks caught the irre, irregular betting on Terry rose
Year the day it happened, the morning it happened, when
all of a sudden there was hundreds of thousands of
dollars coming in on Terry Rozier unders for a relatively
meaningless game in November, I'm sorry, in March involving the
Charlotte Hornets. The sportsbooks caught it. They told the NBA

(30:57):
right away, and guess what, the NBA Brazier didn't play
the rest of the season, and he had faked the injury,
so it wasn't because of the injury.

Speaker 4 (31:03):
The NBA pulled them.

Speaker 10 (31:05):
They pulled Johntay Porter to they they flagged Johntay Porter
and pulled Johntay Porter. The NBA's measures there, you know
their their complain, you know their their their their protection measures,
the sportsbooks protection measures triggered this.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
They caught it, Okay. My question is if they pulled
him and the foot injury was faked and that's the
reason he didn't play the rest of the season because
they wanted to look into this while not having the
story come out right away that the real that what

(31:38):
they were looking into was gambling and that goes to
the credibility and integrity of the league.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Well, I guess my question is why would you Why
would you shut down and call out and make it
public with Johntay Porter, but you wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Do the same thing with Rosier.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
I'll tell you why, because it doesn't matter with Johntay
Porter because they could make an example out of him
as a two a fringe NBA player. Well, meanwhile, why.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
Terry Rogier is like Lebron James or anything.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
He's He's making twenty six million a year.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
He's a solid role player, he's a name player to
a certain degree.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
But Terry Rogier is not.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Gonna I understand why I guess to a certain degree
that you'd want to try to cover it up. But
I mean, what if we're in the world of transparency.
I think when you get more credit, more credibility. Look
what Roger Goodell in the NFL did. Calvin Ridley is
a good player. I wouldn't say he's a great player.
I don't know if he might be on par as
an NFL receiver as Terry Rozier as an NBA.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
Player, and they suspended him.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
They suspended multiple Colts players just for gambling on site,
not even gambling on football games. Like, even if they're there,
you are do have things going on in the back room,
and you want to keep things under wraps. You at
least have to give the air that you're being somewhat credible,
that you're trying to be on the up and up,
and that you're policing these things the right way. I
don't see what the NBA stands to gain. If anything,
you would rather be Terry Rogier than be a superstar player.

(32:57):
You'd rather be a name role player than a giant star.
If you're gonna if you're willing to take down a
name role player, that shows that you're at least being
somewhat credible in this.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
Maybe they felt like, man, now we got two guys,
it's not just Johntay Porter. Now it's looking even worse
for the league. So they kept one quiet in Terry
Rozier while they investigated it from the back and basically
gave him a quiet suspension behind the scenes, but where
he couldn't.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Play ignorance on their part to think that this is
not going to continue to happen.

Speaker 4 (33:27):
Or that it would never get out that they actually
that he actually didn't have an injury and they just
shut him down.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yeah, I mean, and when it comes to situations like this,
is really hard to keep stuff like that under wraps,
you know, And now all of a sudden.

Speaker 4 (33:39):
You cover up would be worse than the crime.

Speaker 5 (33:40):
Though.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Yeah, no, absolutely, it absolutely is, which again, just litigate
it from the very beginning and just be transparent from
day one.

Speaker 4 (33:47):
If that's true, though, that they pulled him and he
wasn't actually injured, then you're asking, as the Miami Heat,
what the hell did I get myself into trading for
this player? Wait a second, we didn't know this information
that he was being investigated by you guys, and that
could come back with the FBI later on, and then
we could actually lose this player and he could be

(34:08):
banned for life like that would have been pertinent information
for us because we brought in Terry Rozier. How dare
you say that he was hurt if he really wasn't
because you just wanted to keep it quiet so it
doesn't blow up the league with a story that cuts
to the integrity of the league.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
And see and by the way, this is not this
is an issue the NBA has had to face in
the past when it comes to him. Back when David Stern,
the Tim Donahy situation and the keeping quiet that whole
story that The New York Post was getting ready to publish,
and David Stern using his people in the NBA front
office in law enforcement to make sure that didn't come
out until they signed their big TV contract with TNC

(34:45):
and ESPN. And I think it was like three weeks
after that that the story actually was published and the
whole bomb show dropped.

Speaker 4 (34:51):
And he passed it off as rogue referee. Meanwhile, he
made one hundred and thirty four calls to Scott Foster
before and after games during the time that he was gambling.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
By the way, and told Chris Paul to his face,
mocked him about how Chris Paul never wins playoff games
or playoff series.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
That he officiates. The NBA has put themselves in a
really bad spot. These guys have put them in a
bad spot. But you make a deal with the devil,
and I know everybody does it with these sports betting,
with these gamified leagues. Did you hear last night Kenny
Smith went from calling it gambling to gaming. He called
it gaming. He corrected himself by the second segment, because

(35:31):
they're in bed obviously with fan duel or DraftKings. We
all do it too. At some point, like I know,
there's no going back. We opened up Pandora's box. But
at some point we have to look at ourselves. This
is a moral this is an ethical issue, and maybe
this was the wrong move to get in bed with
all these places because we're gonna see more of this stuff.
All they care about is the Dallas signs. That's what

(35:52):
Jaylen Brown said on Thursday.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
This is the f and A on FSR Fox Football Saturday.
You gotta take a quick time out. We have stranger
than fiction on the other side coming up.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
More of my horribly long Halloween marathon. Mark, you know
what I'm talking about. This is FNA on FSR. FNA Cotton.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
Back in FNA on FSR Fox Football Saturday. Coming up
in the next hour. We will talk to Petros papadaeikas
f Fox and FS one college football analysts. We'll also
get into the NFL six pack before that.

Speaker 4 (36:22):
Though it's part two, sequels typically aren't as good, especially
in the horror genre. But you know what, We're gonna
make it good. Okay, because this is Adam's horribly long
Halloween Spectacular marathon. Last week we add two categories we
gave you. First one was old but not avid in
Castella me Frankenstein, old and campy and crappy. And then

(36:43):
the second one was the eighties kind of ruled the
horror genre.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
So now westen to that crappy comment.

Speaker 6 (36:48):
I know you do.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
Let's move to our third category. Here, Now we enter
quote I love the nineties horror, starting with one of
the last good movies by the late great Francis Ford Coppola. Okay,
he's not dead, just to say hold on, he's just washed.
Bramstrokers Dracula with Gary Oldman. That's a great one. He

(37:12):
plays the bad guy in like every movie in the nineties,
but he played Dracula beautifully and Monica Bulucci sucks some blood.
Next is Interview with a Vampire, where you got an
eleven year old Kirsten Dunce next to Tom Cruise and
Brad Pitt. She didn't get an Academy Award though, like
Anthony Hopkins did for his role in Hannibal Lecter.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
So it's with Silence of the Land. So talking vampires.
I'm assuming Vampire and Brooklyn didn't make the cut, did
not damn it.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
That may be in the comedy category at some point.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
Other a terrible movie. That's a terrible movie is.

Speaker 4 (37:42):
That When Things started to fall apart Fordy Murphy. No.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
The other nineties horror classics I love seven of course, Arachnophobia,
Night Breed, the Prophecy with Christopher Walking, Brain Scan with
Edward Furlong is a good one. Under the radar. It's
a virtual reality game where if you kill someone in
the game, they die in real life. Plow or not.
Of course, you got Wes Craven's classics with Scream one
and two. After that, it's like whatever. The late nineties

(38:09):
cannibalism movie. Ravenous is very good with Guy Ritchie and
I love the og Blair witch with a snot shot
close up. Yeah great, so scared her now. Then we
move on to the two thousands horror movies called you
ought to know about these horror movies from the first
decade of the twenty first century. Here's a trilogy that

(38:31):
you're gonna need some drama mine for because they're shaky
cam movies. The first three paranormal Activities, Kevin, you seen
any of those?

Speaker 2 (38:39):
I've seen one of them, but I don't remember exactly
which one it.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
Was quality quality. So's this Naomi Watts in the Ring? Yeah,
it's a remake I think of an Asian horror movie.
But seven Days the Ring Ginger Snaps is a werewolf
coming of age movie.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
Oh say, sounds tasty.

Speaker 4 (38:57):
It's a metaphor for girls becoming a woman.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
Oh sooner.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
Drag Me to Hell was good and it's like the
last Sam Raimi movie I remember.

Speaker 6 (39:06):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (39:06):
Here's a horror movie that's like top ten worthy on
this list, Strangers with Liv Tyler and Scott Speedman. It
features some real chilling death scenes and they've had some
prequills and some sequells since then. I haven't seen all those,
but the First Stranger is really good. Mark brought up
this classic last week, Harrison Ford, Michelle Pfeiffer, What Lies Beneath?

(39:31):
That was a good one from the early two thousands,
quality thriller. Then you have the first Saw, and then
you have ten.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
More fifteen saws after that.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
What about a thinking man's acting tour to fource type
of Halloween movie Shadow of a Vampire with Williem Dafoe
and John Malhovich. You don't have any final destinations in here?
Uh no?

Speaker 6 (39:51):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Wow, all right, but you got plenty of them to watch,
thirty five of them. I all thought the first couple
were pretty good. Those were nineties of a fire, remember, correct.

Speaker 6 (40:00):
Well.

Speaker 4 (40:01):
My last from the two thousands is this psychological thriller
that I love called Session nine with David Caruso, who.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
Drops out it is that the movie about the aliens?
That's District nine.

Speaker 4 (40:14):
Never mind, people love that, but Caruso in this movie
drops maybe the best f bomb of all time FD
so many cust works, we obviously can't play that here.

Speaker 6 (40:23):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
I'm just saying I feel like Samuel Jackson has some
pretty good f bombs in a lot of movies, so
not in this one.

Speaker 4 (40:30):
There's two categories. We'll have two more next week here
on fn A on FSR six pack coming up next.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Don't listen, no Fox Sports.

Speaker 6 (40:41):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
Fn A on FSR is back with you, Kevin Figures
and Adam Austlin FNA Cotton. You can hear the off
air conversations. Hit us up on x K. Fig one
is where you can find me. You can find Adam
at follow Adam A.

Speaker 4 (40:55):
I can put it pretty succinctly, can you. The off
air conversation is just how badly the Clippers thrashed breeze
Suns tonight. Just no regard for human life, Just total
decimation of Devin Booker and what's left of his nose
after the Clippers broke it in the twenty twenty one.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
You guys have lost five straight against the Suns before
this one.

Speaker 4 (41:17):
What are you talking about? Old stuff? I'm just saying
he's still on the Suns.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
All right, With all due respect, no one gives a
damn about the Clippers and the Suns, probably in general,
especially not in October.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
All right, how dare you let's leave the let's leave
that alone.

Speaker 4 (41:32):
You're an Angels fan, you should have some sympathy for
the lesser teams in the city.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
To a certain degree, You're right.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
So for me, the problem is the Angel season ends
basically right after spring training begins. So that's the way
that it looks. So that's how it starts for me.
So I'm out from the very beginning.

Speaker 4 (41:46):
I thought it ends in the winter and the hot
stove when you guys never end up getting any pitching.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
The stove doesn't even get warm. They't even don't even
walk into the kitchen.

Speaker 6 (41:55):
You know what.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Ardi Moreno's so cheap. He doesn't want to pay the
electric bills, so they don't even turn or the gas bill.
They don't even turn it on.

Speaker 4 (41:59):
It's unplugged, crock pot. That's right.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
They're lucky crock of a team.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
We have coming up on the next segment, Petros Papadakis,
Fox and FS one College Football Enders will go around
the college football world coming up on the very next segment.
But here it is time for one of our favorite segments.
Let's get to it.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
Time for the NFL six pack.

Speaker 6 (42:21):
All right.

Speaker 4 (42:21):
Six categories that get us into talking about the NFL
is it week eight already, already? All right, what's our
first category here, Mark.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Hot seed heat check.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
That's right, the coach or player under the most pressure
as we enter into this weekend.

Speaker 4 (42:37):
You want me to go first? Yeah, as we entered
this weekend kind of threw me off. This may throw
you for a loop.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Okay, I'm putting it through a curveball at me and
Blake Snell curveball?

Speaker 3 (42:49):
Am I just knocking out of the park we have.

Speaker 4 (42:52):
I hope it's on the sixth inning right now. This
is for a team and a player. Uh that's on
their bye week. Oh, a bye week will not save
you though, from my wrath as the Jaguars played that
bad on Sunday and I can't let it go.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
Are you doing this because you had them in too on?
Too off?

Speaker 4 (43:13):
Nothing to do with that, okay, just making sure. Okay,
maybe that was the reason I broke my rule. I
broke my one rule like the fool I am, by
betting on a game that took place in London because
I thought, you know, the Jaguars, they've played there all
the time, they have home field advantage. Nope, doesn't matter,

(43:35):
and they got destroyed by the Rams who the Kevin
took Kevin took on the other end of the line.
I think it was Jaguars plus three. I'm like, all
they got to do is lose by less than a
field goal. I think they lost by three touchdowns.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
And it wasn't even that close.

Speaker 4 (43:51):
Yeah, they're a weak ass house cat and I know
about them. They're nothing. I am bitter because of what
happened in two on two off. More on that coming
up as well. But I just feel like Trevor Lawrence,
Like they call him Sunshine for the character and remember
the Titans.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
That's disrespectful to Sunshine.

Speaker 4 (44:11):
Well, he's playing like where the sun don't shine, and
I'm tired of his inconsistency. Now in year five, he
has his lowest QB rating since his rookie year. I
don't care that he's been sacked seventeen times the last
three games, when most of that is on him for
holding onto the ball he does. He holds onto it
way too long. They're calling him Saxonville again, but for

(44:33):
the wrong reasons this time, because everyone gets a chance
to sack Trevor Lawrence because he holds onto the ball
tighter than he holds onto that pot of gold the
Jaguars gave him because he's making fifty five million a year.
It's bad. Now. He's about as decisive as a sloth
out there with his reds, and it makes some of

(44:55):
his passes uglier than sloth. In the Goonies, You guys,
Trevor Lawrence looks worse than Daniel Jones ever did with
the Giants, but he ain't taking any of that heat.
So I'm gonna give it to him here. Daniel Jones
took a lot of heat in New York. Trevor Jones
is skating by in Jacksonville while playing worse.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
This is no disrespect to Duvall, but Daniel Jones took
heat in New York because he was in New York.

Speaker 4 (45:20):
I don't know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
So Jacksonville, Jacksonville obviously a little bit of a different beast.

Speaker 4 (45:25):
Well, I'm gonna put Jacksonville and the Jaguars and Trevor
Lawrence under the hot seat. I'm gonna shine a light
on just how wildly and consistent Sunshine has been.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
Now do you give him any sort of credit knowing
that he basically has had How long has he been
in the league now?

Speaker 6 (45:39):
Six years.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Five years, he's had like five four or five offensive coordinators.
That's because they kind to give me Alex Smith treatment
to a certain degree.

Speaker 4 (45:47):
No, no, no, no, no, he's the reason they've had so
many turnovers. They're like, it's got to be the offensive coordinator.
It can't be Trevor. At some point, it might be
Trevor Lawrence.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
It might be I'm not completely absolving him with responsibility.
I'm just saying, well, you have no consistency in your offense,
that there's a bit of a learning curve, and you
don't have necessarily a whole lot to work with a
lot of the time.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
He has a lot working against them.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Look, but if you were transcendent and being compared to
Andrew Luck when you came out.

Speaker 4 (46:11):
Yeah, what about that?

Speaker 3 (46:11):
To who much is given, much is required.

Speaker 4 (46:13):
So didn't they win a national championship in Clemson as
a true freshman as a starter? He sure did.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
Dedroid Nick Saban's Alabama ran them off the field.

Speaker 4 (46:21):
Didn't They beat the Chiefs a few weeks ago on
Monday Night Football and we all thought they were turning
it around. Well, that just fooled everyone into thinking the
Jags are better than they really are. But I have
a way too early prediction, Okay, partially so that if
I'm wrong, no one's gonna remember.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
But the tape is rolling by the way right bury.

Speaker 5 (46:40):
Ok.

Speaker 4 (46:42):
They go to Las Vegas in week nine after their
bye this week, I say that Jaguars lose that game.
That will put the world on notice on just how
average to below average Trevor Lawrence has been. They need
a loss to the Raiders to do that. When the
Jaguars missed the playoffs this season after a quick start

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like they had, I think there were four and one,
you will see why I had them on the hot
seat during their bye week. And Trevor Lawrence may look
like Tarzan with that hair, but he's playing more like
not Jane a jag just a guy, just a guy
getting paid I don't know, fifty five million a year
to be extremely mid People need to wake up to

(47:28):
this reality in Jacksonville, that's what he is.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
He can do the reverse Samson and cut off his
hair and he'll actually gain strength and be better.

Speaker 4 (47:35):
Yeah, he had a military cut like that should be
his punishment. After they lose to the Raiders, they bring
out the big razor for him.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
Yeah, shave his head. Maybe they should do the Golmer
pile of treatment. I want him to look like Bruce Bow.
Do some hazing or something on the barracks.

Speaker 4 (47:53):
Actually, I want permanent hair loss with him. Oh that's
what needs to happen. Because I bet on them last week.
That's what it is, and I failed.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
All the vitriol comes from Adam because Trevor Lawren's basically
cost him his pick.

Speaker 4 (48:06):
That's what it is. I understand. Do you have a
more reasonable hot seat? He check here.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
I don't know if that's unreasonable because he has beginning
some incoming that organization as a whole, and there's a
general manager there who did not draft him. So his
future is very much in jeopardy with that franchise. So
we'll see what happens. I don't go with the Falcons
at home against the Miami Dolphins, so in all, honestly,
I don't really see them struggling too much against this
Dolphins team that's already as I mentioned last week, and
I'll continue to say it. One, two, three, Cancoon They've

(48:32):
already checked out. I'm surprised, might be Daniel still has
a job at this point in time.

Speaker 4 (48:35):
Now, I was gonna say you're late with the hot
seat for Mike McDaniel.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Oh, I'm jella no, this on fire at this point
in time, I was a huge When you just resign
and to say I don't need to deal with this.

Speaker 4 (48:44):
It feels like he has in some way. With the
clothing he's wearing, with the sunglasses he's wearing, he's basically hiding.

Speaker 3 (48:53):
I mean yeah, in plain sights.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
Now, we always talk about Adam, how how you win
and how you lose matters.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
Is not just a game of wins and losses.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
So I say that about Atlanta because they do have
some impressive victories. They beat Buffalo last week, they beat
a fully healthy Minnesota team with JJ McCarthy at quarterback,
but being shut out by Carolina no offense, and I
know they're four and three. Terrible loss. You can't get
shout out by Carolina.

Speaker 4 (49:17):
It was in Carolina.

Speaker 3 (49:18):
Though it doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 (49:19):
Panthers don't lose there, I mean clearly, but.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
You can't have that happen.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
Forty nine ers running a mass unit out there and
they get a loss against them this past weekend as well.
If I'm the Lion's front office, I'm looking at all
the resources I've put into this team, Pennix, Drake London,
Bijon Robinson, Kyle Pitts. This offense is supposed to be
smoking people on a weekend and week out basis, and they,
for whatever reason, they're not doing that. I know they
don't have Caleb McGary, one of the best offensive tackles

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in the league. The lost Hi right before the season started.
I understand that. But it's not as if Bejon has
not gotten on track. He's at huge games this year.
They have just been so woefully inconsistent. It's mind boggling
for a team that people thought was going to take
the next step this year and they just haven't done it.

Speaker 4 (49:59):
I feel like they're one of those teams that only
plays decent at home. They are not really the problem.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
Is just decent.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Like again, the amount of offensive talent they put together.
They spent their entire draft drafting defensive lineman. Some have
been solid, they've been inconsistent, but you're gonna get that
or from young guys at a time. But this is
a team that's supposed to take the next step, that's
supposed to compete. Had to have with the Tampa Bay
Buccaneers in the NFC South. Hey, look, they're what five
hundred at this point in time. The Bucks the granted,
I've gotten out to a little bit of a hodter
start that I think most people expected, especially considering all

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their injury issues. And look, I'm not saying that Rahie
Morris is in trouble at all, but just the way
this season is shaping up.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
I think they won eight games.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
Last year, they were eight to nine if we go
Jeff Fisher eight nine or seven to ten or something
like that. Again this year, I think the noise is
gonna start to creep in because if you remember, I'm
not saying this is gonna happen, but just entertain me here. Okay,
you do remember that there was one team that had
an official interview with Bill Belichick last year.

Speaker 4 (50:52):
Right ooh, that was Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
He was in Chick fil A. Right afterwards, I caught
a picture of Bill Belichick out.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
Of Chick fil A.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
Well in a full all student tie, coming from his
interview with Arthur Blank in the Falcons organization.

Speaker 4 (51:05):
So that interview didn't occur on Sunday, no, not So.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
I'm not saying that they're going to revisit it, but
the fact that there is just mere interest, the fact
that things have gone so horribly bad for Bill Belichick
at North Carolina. If this does not shape up the
way that I think people in Atlanta thought it might
with all this talent on this roster, and they end
up falling short of making the postseason this year, I'm
not saying it's gonna happen. I'm not saying it should happen,
because I do, like Rahee Morris, I do think a

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potential look back at Bill Belichick to be the head
coach of this franchise is something that might happen in
the offseason.

Speaker 4 (51:36):
I don't think that would be a terrible move for
either side. Really. No, I didn't expect Atlanta to make
the playoffs. I gotta be honest. I was pretty high
on Tampa Bay. I got one right there. A lot
of people were We talked about Baker Mayfield our first
show here FNA on FSR and the turnaround he had
the last two seasons. It's carried over into this year.

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Why has anyone that surprised they've been good.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
He's the front runner for MVP for a lot of people,
so certainly understand it.

Speaker 4 (52:02):
I mean, the NFC South was taken.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
Yeah, I'm not surprised that the Buccaneers are as good
as they've I mean, look, do you win all those
close games by three points? I mean there are a
couple of bounces away from being you know, five hundred
if not a game under that's fair, that's but that's
the NFL for you.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
So I can't necessarily hope that against them, and.

Speaker 4 (52:16):
They have come through in huge heroic performances thanks to
Baker Late.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
I would say myself and I think a lot of
others expected Atlanta, I guess, to be a little bit
better and to challenge them a little bit more than
they have at this point in time.

Speaker 4 (52:28):
But you called that Niners win over them. Oh yeah, yeah,
I because you picked up on where Atlanta was versus
what you thought they should be, versus why I thought
they should be.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
A Look, if they struggle again against a team like Miami,
a team they should run off for the field. Now
we're talking about issues, because here's the thing you mentioned, like, oh,
they're decent at home and not good on the road.
You need to be great at home and decent on
the road. Yeah, that's where I think the expectation level
is that for this team right now, they have not
come close to that production.

Speaker 4 (52:56):
Have they played the Saints yet?

Speaker 3 (52:58):
I don't believe that they have.

Speaker 4 (53:00):
Well, they got they're playing this weekend. Yeah, oh, well
for the first time. So they got two more wins there,
they get the Panthers at home. There's three wins. I'm
just that's how you do things when you're counting up
the NFC South and what could occur that that's like, okay,
there's a couple of bottom dwellers right there. How do
you take advantage of that? They already blew one game

(53:20):
against the Carolina Panthers. But oh no, so.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
Wait, so bre you're talking about the Saints are placely
playing the Buccaneers this weekend.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
We were talking about the Falcons.

Speaker 4 (53:28):
Yeah, yes, bring you're out of your element. Sorry, God, confused,
my NFC.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
I'll get to that Saints bucks a little bit later
in the six pack.

Speaker 4 (53:35):
Trust me.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
Right now here on Fox Sports Radio, we'renna step asidecause
we got to get hooked up with our guy, the
old p.

Speaker 4 (53:43):
Oh Petros Pappadakas is coming back.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
Yeah, standing by, stand up late for.

Speaker 4 (53:47):
Us, and you know he went viral this week, So
it's kind of a big deal and timely to have
him on now.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
No one loves attention more than Petros, that's for damn sure.

Speaker 4 (53:55):
Oh yeah, he's missed her attention, even though Angelina Joe
Lee once gave him attention and he was like, whatever,
she's just another chick in her prime in ninety eight.
How do you not go out with her? Sorry, that's
another story for another day. She was into him because
he was all dark, Well, must be so cool. Good
for you, Pee, Yeah, I knew.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
You were so highly solid after that, you can turn
down Angelina Joli.

Speaker 4 (54:17):
That's how bal are he was.

Speaker 6 (54:18):
I guess.

Speaker 4 (54:18):
So now how baller he still is? And he's a
married man and we shouldn't be talking about this. Oh God,
get us out of here.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
Kevin Fa on FSR Fox Football Saturday coming up next
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Speaker 9 (54:40):
We're gonna have a little Q and a FNA Cottonna.

Speaker 4 (54:44):
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Speaker 2 (55:10):
It is FNA on FSR Fox Football Saturday with Kevin
Figures and Adam Alslin. Coming up in about twenty minutes
or so, we will dive back in to the NFL
six Pack. But right now, it is Week nine of
the college football season and we got a lot to
discuss with our next guest.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Alan Dragan did thank you, Donny.

Speaker 4 (55:29):
Well join the show right now. Is our college football expert,
because you know, Joel Klatte ain't ever getting back to me,
and this guy's picks and analysis are better anyways. He's
the one who went viral this week for saying something
he's been trying to tell you guys for over a
decade about USC football and now the casuals are paying attention. Well,
that's why he's the expert. It's college football expert Petros

(55:51):
Papadakas joining us on f and A on FSR once again. Pee,
how are you doing?

Speaker 6 (55:56):
Hello? Hello, good evening to everybody.

Speaker 4 (55:58):
Does it annoy you like it does me when everyone
is finally like, hey, this guy's takes on USC? No?

Speaker 11 (56:06):
No, I mean, look, I was not a superstar player
at USC. I was known and did stuff in the
media and have been doing things in the media for
a long time. But I'm not as visible as a
lot of people. So when things gain traction or get momentum,

(56:28):
it happens every month or so, and I kind of
handle it the same as if they don't get traction
or get momentum. But I have done a lot more
interviews this week because of the USC Notre Dame stuff.
There'll be new stories coming up next week and we'll
move on. But no, it never bothers me because it

(56:48):
was a prevalent story. It's been a prevalent story in
my mind for a while. Yeah, But because they played
it was top of mind for people, and the Notre
Dame contingency of podcasters and posters and platform notre dame
types they caught onto it. So it was interesting. I

(57:08):
was being defended by Notre Dame people and attacked by USC.
But that's okay, That's what I'm used.

Speaker 4 (57:16):
Is USC just perpetually in that place where Texas was
a few years back when we were saying is Texas back?
Is that USC?

Speaker 5 (57:23):
Now?

Speaker 4 (57:24):
Is USC back? Are we going to be saying that
for a while?

Speaker 6 (57:27):
I don't. Yeah.

Speaker 11 (57:28):
I mean there's that guy every year, often in gene
shorts with a little mustache and a Reggie Bush jersey
that's a size too small that tells you this is
usc'sier foo and you have to deal with it. And
everybody says that every year. They throw most of their
parties in the off season because of recruiting classes and such.

(57:48):
They have improved, but as the year goes on, you
have to be physically up to the toll week in
and week out. And one of their biggest problems now
is defensive and they're linebackers are kind of catchers mits
they go side to side pretty well, but they get
run over when they face a team that has the
will to run them over. And that's going to probably

(58:10):
keep happening in the Big Ten until they have a
different coach. They need a coach who cared about the
lad image more than Lincoln Riley does. And it's plain
and simple, and I've said that for a long time.
But should what Lincoln Riley wants to do with USC
Notre Dame even be considered?

Speaker 6 (58:30):
Why? Why would that be considered? Is my question? And
why wouldn't you just do it like you always did?

Speaker 11 (58:37):
It should be transcendent of the new conference, transcendent of anything.
It's a big part of our identity as players and
all that, and I've set all that stuff.

Speaker 6 (58:46):
So there'll be games this week.

Speaker 11 (58:48):
USC's on a bye, they have Nebraska after that, the
game they could very well lose, and then the what
do we do with Lincoln Riley talk starts. It'll start
at some point because they're going to lose on the
road and the Big Ten than they're gonna win because
that's who they are, that's who they've shown themselves to be.
We're here in the middle of October, and their identity
has been set. A team that's gonna get run over.

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If somebody wants to run you over, somebody has the
will to do it.

Speaker 6 (59:15):
So we'll see how it happens. They're not planning this week, though.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
Patris Papadegas joining us here FNA on fs R talk
a little bit staying in the Big ten about UCLA
and the big run that they've had under Tim Skipper,
and people are acting like Jerry Neuheisel, which is a
great story, like he's the head coach, Tim Skipper, the
guy that filled in as interim at Fresnel State and
a pretty damn good job there as well. I don't
think most people are expecting them to be Indiana. Now,

(59:40):
granted we didn't expect them to be Penn State either,
but if they show themselves well, and maybe showing themselves
well is covering the spread, which is I think over
twenty points again this weekend twenty five, oh twenty five.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
She's all right, So anyone up?

Speaker 2 (59:51):
Do you think that Tim Skipper has a legitimate shot
to be part of the consideration for UCLA? And speaking
of that, people are throwing out names like James Franklin.
Do they even have the money or the wherewithal to
even make a run at somebody like that?

Speaker 11 (01:00:02):
People just say, I mean, people were talking about even
Ben Bolche from the La Times, who's a very legitimate writer,
was talking about Lane Kiffen being interestanding.

Speaker 6 (01:00:11):
Coming back to La. Yeah, that was my reaction as well.

Speaker 11 (01:00:14):
Interesting, but you don't think you'd want to come back
to southern California And that's what he said, and I
was like, no, not.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
For a UCLA. I'm going to leave the sec FLA.

Speaker 11 (01:00:23):
People understand, like none of that stuff happened in a vacuum.

Speaker 6 (01:00:27):
They didn't alienate Chip Kelly in private.

Speaker 11 (01:00:31):
They are not a great bureaucracy to be a part
of working in the UC system is mind.

Speaker 6 (01:00:38):
Numbing and very hard.

Speaker 11 (01:00:40):
And they don't pay enough attention to their football program.
This has been the knock on UCLA for decades that
they want their football program to be the same as
the women's gymnastics program, and the truth is you just
can't operate like that. But this has been a great story. Obviously.
Tim Skipper deserves a heck of a lot of credit.
I met him last year when he was taken over

(01:01:01):
for Tedford who got sick at Fresno, and he did
a good job. They didn't hire him, and he's a
Fresno guy and there was a lot of people that
wanted him hired and he didn't get that job.

Speaker 6 (01:01:12):
But what does he have.

Speaker 11 (01:01:13):
He has experience in being an interim he knows what
kind of attitude you have to have when there's a
sudden change in leadership on a football team. Not only that,
but he knows how to do it with the coordinators
as well. I mean he fired both coordinators basically, and
then the team has taken off. They've not lost since
so after they lost to Northwestern, So we'll see. I

(01:01:37):
don't think they're going to win this game. I think
this road game is going to be hard, and I
think they're probably going to get close to getting beaten
by whatever the spread is in the twenties. That doesn't
change that it's been a good story and that they're a.

Speaker 6 (01:01:51):
Lot more formidable than people thought.

Speaker 11 (01:01:53):
And you can't just pencil in a victory for us
when they play later in the year, especially if Nico
is still up and running. But it's been a great story.
I do think that the balloon pops this week for
UCLA because what Indiana has done being number two in
the country with Fernando Mendoza playing his way into a Heisman.

(01:02:16):
It's Povey is up there too with Vandy. It's pretty remarkable.
And I remember in nineteen ninety five, ninety six, ninety five,
USC played Northwestern and the Rose Bowl. The Gary Barnett
Northwestern team with Darnell Actrey and Steve Schner and Pat

(01:02:37):
Fitzgerald of course, who's going to get a job in
this next cycle as the Mike linebacker and bringing Northwestern
to a Rose Bowl was a miracle and no one
ever saw it.

Speaker 6 (01:02:49):
No one's ever going to see it since.

Speaker 11 (01:02:51):
But it's even more impressive what's happening in Indiana with
Signetti in such a short time. And they have not
been kind to lesser teams. They've shown very little mercy
as far as scoring points and being demonstrative in the game.

Speaker 6 (01:03:09):
And I think that's.

Speaker 11 (01:03:09):
Probably gonna happen to UCLA in Bloomington, of all places.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Yeah, well, so you bring up Indiana, what Signetti's doing there,
you can think of Okay, Brent Key at Georgia Tech.
They're raiding inside the top ten. You mentioned Pavia, Vanderbert,
Well Clark Lee is doing out there. Do you think
this new landscape of college football with NIL and the
portal being what it is, that we're going to start
seeing more and more of these non traditional powerhouses in
football have stepping up and having great years because the

(01:03:33):
Alabamas and the Georgias can't just stash guys as backups
for three years.

Speaker 11 (01:03:37):
There's more parody and there's less depth on those Alabama
Georgia type teams, and a lot of those guys are
playing somewhere else.

Speaker 6 (01:03:46):
Plus, I mean, there's a lot of ways to do this.

Speaker 11 (01:03:48):
You have the guys that bring transfers in that are
very very few and far between because they keep their
team together and basically what they pay attention to when
the portal is retention, retain the guys you have and
continue to develop them and retain your coaches. You know,

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you look at Boise State, that's kind of one of
those situations. And then they bring in transfers just to
supplement a position group here or there. That's one way
to do it. And then it's the kind of transfers
that you bring in. You can bring in guys that
are on FBS teams that haven't been playing very much,
big recruits maybe that haven't found their way onto the

(01:04:32):
field to their liking, and you can bring that type
of guy in and give them playing time and see
how they react.

Speaker 6 (01:04:38):
Or you can go get all stars.

Speaker 11 (01:04:40):
From the FCS level and see how they play at
the next level and oftentimes that has been very fruitful
where you can do a little bit of both. It's
very interesting. It's not just like, hey, let's bring in
transfers and see what happens. There are a lot of
teams like that also though, that have you know, sixty
seventy new players and the coach is kind of doing

(01:05:04):
it all by the seat of the pants as the
year goes on, as they all get to know each other.
And some of those teams have had success as well.
So there's a lot of different ways to do it.
But obviously the portal and the nil has created more parody,
and that part of it is fun. I mean, Oregon's
still great, Alabama's still great. All these blue bloods still

(01:05:27):
have it going on. A and M looks good. They've
always been the richest school. But there leaves some room
for some others to put it together in their own
way and compete, and that's what we've seen.

Speaker 6 (01:05:38):
Pee.

Speaker 4 (01:05:38):
You mentioned that balloon popping for UCLA most likely this weekend. Well,
the guy with the poison dart, Kurt Signetti. What does
he do that separates him from other coaches to have
this round?

Speaker 6 (01:05:50):
No, he's a chap ass I don't know.

Speaker 11 (01:05:54):
I mean, I've only seen him interviewed and been up
close to him maybe once or twice.

Speaker 6 (01:05:58):
I don't know him well.

Speaker 11 (01:05:59):
I've never done on an Indiana game ever in my life,
which is kind of odd, but it's just never happened,
So I don't know. He's Kurt. He has a way
about him. I do think that to a certain degree.
A lot of these coaches, even Kaylin de boor Matt
Campbell who came from Mount Union, all of these guys

(01:06:22):
that came from smaller places that used to have to
worry about the laundry getting done and used to have
to worry about when the buses are going to show
up for the kids.

Speaker 6 (01:06:31):
A lot of these coaches.

Speaker 11 (01:06:34):
In the modern times where everybody's making money and there's
a lot being said, and these young people have handlers,
and you're negotiating with handlers for an eighteen year old
kid who's most probably being taken advantage of. They're taking
a much bigger percentage than say an NFL agent would

(01:06:54):
or something like that. It's these really straightforward guys that
seem to be resonating the most with today's player, like
the Steve Sarkisians who come out smiling and hot recruiting
and Lamborghinis and all the money that Texas has to offer.
Maybe this isn't their time as much as it is

(01:07:15):
a time for a guy like Signetti who is totally
honest at all times, whether it rubs people the wrong
way or not. Because there's so much flash and extra
meat in college football now, with the money being made
and the portal being open and all those different things,
maybe guys like Signetti, who you know are completely and

(01:07:37):
totally straightforward, they are going to tell you exactly what
they think. Maybe they're the ones that the players seem
to be gravitating towards.

Speaker 6 (01:07:44):
More.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
Fox and FS one football analyst Petros Popaegos joining us
here Fox Football Saturday, Kevin Figures and Adam Auslin. You
work a lot of Big Twelve games for FS one
and Fox, and that shaped out to be one of
the most competitive conferences in college football this year. There's
a big one this weekend between bo in Iowa State.
Just based on what you've seen. I know you've seen Cincinnati,
you've seen Iowa State this year. Houston and Arizona State

(01:08:06):
another big one as well. If you're looking at the
Big Twelve right now do you have a favorite? Is
it still BYU considering they're undefeated because they have a
tough schedule down the stretch.

Speaker 11 (01:08:13):
Yeah, and they have a freshman quarterback who I love
bat Hackmeyer. But at some point your freshman quarterback, most
likely on the road, is going to play like a freshman.
And this could be the week at Jack Trice and
I think a Abu Sama is up. Their running backs
are back for this one, and I really like Rocko.

(01:08:35):
He's been great, so I like the Clones. But I
think to answer your question, I think there's really very
little separation between almost all the teams in the Big twelve,
Like it is really hard to see who's separated from
Obviously Texas Tech has the big payroll, and they lost
their quarterback, and usually it's like your quarterback, if your

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quarterback play is really mature and limits stakes, that's usually
the difference in a game. Houston is well coached, they're awesome,
sadder fields having a great year.

Speaker 6 (01:09:08):
They have an awesome offensive line and.

Speaker 11 (01:09:10):
A really good quarterback, and they're improved on the perimeter
at Cincinnati, And I really do think there's not a
lot of separation between any of these teams. Other than
how mature is your quarterback? Is can he run? And
how well did he play on Saturday? That's really I mean,
there is a couple teams that aren't competing that great,

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but most everybody is beatable and can beat you in
the Big twelve and it's been fun to watch.

Speaker 4 (01:09:39):
Pe I mentioned Joel Klad a little bit earlier and
he was bringing up what he's hearing behind the scenes
with the next playoff format and they're talking about twenty
four teams. Can't we just sit in this space right
now of twelve teams? It seems like a decent sweet spot.
The regular season still matters, and we're not talking about
who got snub from the playoff? Like why we just

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see how this plays out for a couple of years.

Speaker 11 (01:10:03):
I don't know. It's only going to get bigger. The
playoff is only going to grow. And the answer as
to why is why did the PAC ten go away?

Speaker 4 (01:10:12):
Money?

Speaker 11 (01:10:12):
Why did the PAC twelve go away? Why do TV
networks control everything? Why do we go When you used
to travel on the PAC twelve, the average flight time
is like an hour and a half. Now the East
Coast teams are having trouble going all the way across
the country and playing in West Coast stadiums, and of
course vice versa. So it's all about the money, and

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no one is complaining about the money they're making. They're
complaining about logistics and things like that. So that's your answer.
There is no sweet spot. It's controlled and run outside
of the NCAA, which isn't exactly a great organization either.
And this is the world we live in. These are
the hands we're given.

Speaker 4 (01:10:55):
At this point.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
Because we were talking about UCLA earlier and I just
popped up in my head, So, Pap, is your had
that fall out from Northwestern?

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
They had the lawsuit, they reached a settlement. He's out there.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
Is he someone that would be in play for a
school like a UCLA or is he more big game hunting,
more like a Penn State sort of job.

Speaker 11 (01:11:10):
I'm not sure, but everybody should talk to him and
see what he's willing to do and for what I
think he's a great coach, and I think whoever hires
him would have a great I think us he should
have hired him years ago, lock him in a room
and don't let him out until he takes a job.

Speaker 6 (01:11:27):
But we'll see.

Speaker 11 (01:11:28):
I don't know, there's that big The whole thing got
twisted on its neck, and partially because of what you're
talking about the college football Playoff being twelve team. Maybe
if it's twenty four it's different. But if you know
in October or September and you're a blue blood or
a program with high expectations that you're not making the
playoff this year, you fire the coach and start scrambling

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to get something figured out so you don't have to
go through all the machinations of it.

Speaker 6 (01:11:55):
While portal's open and the end of the year.

Speaker 11 (01:11:58):
I'm not exactly sure everybody's kind of kind of fumbling
around in a dark room because a lot of this
stuff is new and they just changed the portal parameters.
But I do think that the Penn State job coming
open probably led to a lot more of this to
where we see a power for guy getting fired almost
every week. It was napier this last week and might

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might happen again this week.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
Yeah, Norville, I guess they said they're going to wait
until the end of the season and see what happen
to now John Smith.

Speaker 6 (01:12:27):
At Michigan State, Brian Kelly could be in Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:12:32):
You know, all it takes is one guy to say,
here's my ninety million dollars, take it away.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
Well, that's the thing, and I want to get your
take on that too before we let you go too,
because about I'm sure you saw what Nick Saban said
this week, and like the boosters are controlling everything, but
it's different now now that they're controlling the coaches who
get hired and fired, and they're really if they're willing
to wide a check to let a guy like a
James Franklin, you know, someone like that of that caliber
go and but the problem is if they're going to
pay to let him go and then pay money to
bring a new guy in, they're going to want to

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have say and exactly what happens with that program. And
it's not very different from how it's always been.

Speaker 11 (01:13:02):
Yeah, why do you think Lane Kiffin gets fired on
a tarmac because somebody told you that he couldn't go
back into the building.

Speaker 6 (01:13:10):
Was that the president of the school?

Speaker 9 (01:13:12):
No?

Speaker 11 (01:13:12):
Was it an ad No, those people would be more reasonable.
It's a crazy booster that you're trying to appease. And
that's I mean, that's been the rub in college football
for many, many years and they're still making a billion
dollars on TV, but they're still taking millions and millions
of dollars from donors. And if you do that and
you put them on your plane and you act like

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your BFFs, at some point they're going to want to
have something to say to show how powerful they are,
because they are because of their money. Like we just said, so,
I mean Saban's talking. Well, maybe it's worse than it's
ever been, but it's certainly not dissimilar to how it's
always been in that regard.

Speaker 4 (01:13:52):
In that regard, he is Petros Papadakis. Coincidence that he's
got a week off the same time that USC has
a week off, I don't know, but he is spouting
off on a five to seventy LA sports and giving
not hot takes, realistic takes that some just didn't know
about for a while until it became news this past
week about USC and how bad things have been for

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over a decade. Pete, thanks for doing this here on
f and A on FSR.

Speaker 6 (01:14:17):
Yeah, you guys can blame Pete Carroll.

Speaker 11 (01:14:19):
He made him really successful, but the lack of institutional
control and what happened afterwards hiring Kippin and Sark, who
were both too immature for the job at the time,
and then the athletic directors and the Helton era.

Speaker 6 (01:14:33):
It's been a real mess. And then you bring in
an air raid guy to fix it. Awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:14:37):
You know things aren't going well with the Raiders. Maybe
he comes back to us. Okay, I'm done.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
I don't think so, Thanks p Thank you, p Bye guy.
All right, appreciated Petros. Petros, papenegas what he Carrol can't return.
I mean, I guess he could, but probably didn't leave
with the greatest taste in his mouth of her.

Speaker 3 (01:14:57):
For the program.

Speaker 4 (01:14:57):
But they might get desperate sanctions and all that. It
always works when you reach back to the glory days,
doesn't it always works?

Speaker 6 (01:15:04):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:15:05):
It's just like with the Raiders in our shell.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
Just like USC with John Robinson. Petricks can tell you
about that. That worked out?

Speaker 3 (01:15:10):
Well, didn't it? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:15:11):
Not great?

Speaker 6 (01:15:12):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
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Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
Us Trap game tap, Yes, even favorite in trouble or
facing a trap game this weekend, I am going with
the Indianapolis Colts against the Titans. Now, before you jump
on me, at him, because I know I had this
as my trap game tap a couple of weeks ago
when these two teams played and the Colts ran them
off the field, and Tennessee.

Speaker 4 (01:16:15):
I forgot about that actually happened. So why are they
playing so close together already?

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
I don't know the Giants and Eagles in that same
situation as well. I don't understand how the scheduling quark
works when it comes to that sort.

Speaker 4 (01:16:24):
Of Titans are just like, let's get it over with now.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
Consider the fact that Titans will be without the top receiver,
Calvin Ridley was ruled out officially on Thursday, so he's
not going to play. They're one of the best defensive
players in the entire league. Jeffrey Simmons also going to
be out for the Titans. All concerning So what makes
this weekend different from the first time these teams met.

Speaker 4 (01:16:42):
Yeah, all of the.

Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
Fact that the Titans have an interim coach.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
Not much, to be honest with you, other than the
fact that this is the NFL and crazy things happen
on a weekend week out basis. And look, I know
these guys are professional athletes and it's their job to
play hard every.

Speaker 3 (01:16:55):
Week, but they are human too.

Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
Sometimes you take your foot off the gas a little
bit you don't expect to be challenged as much, while
also knowing you have a game against a good, physical
Steelers team coming up next weekend. So I'm actually resting
on the fact that the Colts probably take their foot
off the gas and no, they should run the Titans
off the field by fifty points this weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:17:13):
I don't think that's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
I think the Titans actually find a way to keep
this thing close to spike conventional wisdom, despite the points break,
which I believe is at fourteen and a half at
last check.

Speaker 4 (01:17:20):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:22):
I think the Titans actually have some for the Colts.
They don't beat them.

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
I'm not going that insane, They're not crazy, but I
do think the Titans keep this game a little bit
closer than people might expect.

Speaker 4 (01:17:30):
All Right, I'm going with my trap game. Tap Buffalo's
minus seven on the road in Carolina, we are against
my undefeated Panthers. Oh, you're okay at home at Bank
of America Stadium.

Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
So when they're on the road, they're not your Panthers.

Speaker 4 (01:17:42):
That how works? Oh, if they're playing the Jets, they are.

Speaker 6 (01:17:45):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:17:45):
I know the Bills are coming off a bye week,
they lost two in a row, and they are my
Super Bowl selection out of the AFC. But you better
put some respect on this Panthers team. I'm telling you
because I did pick them to make the playoffs. I
don't know if you guys knew this, but this was
on my bold Bold prediction section of our FSR predictions

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before the season started. So this Panthers defense, I'll have
you know, just went to New Jersey, beat up on
the Jets so bad they got a former number eleven
pick in the draft benched. And not just that, even
their owner Woody Johnson made sure to let his feelings
be known about justin Fields.

Speaker 3 (01:18:24):
I mean, he's taking.

Speaker 4 (01:18:26):
What have you heard, really in owner throw his QB
under the bus like that outside of you know, Woody
Johnson reportedly told Mike White he effing sucks just last
year in the locker room postgame.

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
Yeah, Woody Johnson not wanted to hold his tongue, just
like the Panthers' owner not want to hold his finger
when interacting with fans.

Speaker 4 (01:18:45):
David Tepper very calm, very measured when he threw that
drink in the fans face, Kevin, he was just sharing
the wealth because he had top shelf alcohol in that
drink of his he was he was throwing it at
the peasants.

Speaker 3 (01:18:58):
That's a peasant so close as you'll ever get to
some pappy.

Speaker 4 (01:19:02):
I'm starting to see the vision with this Panthers team,
just like Bryce Young is starting to see over the
offensive line, because when you're four and three now you
feel like you're two feet taller, which would put him
just under six feet. I think the Panthers could give
the Bills a run for their money, though, in Charlotte,
a place where the late great Kevin Green and Sam
Mills once patrolled the turf defensively. Just because they're two

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and six all time against the Bills doesn't mean anything.
They haven't played them since twenty twenty one. This Panthers
team is different. I think maybe.

Speaker 3 (01:19:37):
Real vote of confidence there.

Speaker 4 (01:19:38):
Probably not, but I don't know. I'm feeling like I
got to puff my chest out a little bit right
now because we're over five hundred.

Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
Like great kid, don't get cocky.

Speaker 3 (01:19:49):
I can't help myself so that we're calling it we
at this point too.

Speaker 4 (01:19:53):
Oh my Panthers. My part is together. Yeah, I've been
through everything with them. I'm sure I deserve this.

Speaker 3 (01:19:59):
You are right there in the trenches, right next to
Mike Rucker.

Speaker 4 (01:20:02):
Right hey, let me tell you something. We still got
two games left against the Saints, and that means two
more wins right there. So basically we're not four and three,
we're six and three.

Speaker 3 (01:20:13):
You're already counting that as a w right now, I
am I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
By the way, I do think they can give the
Buffalo Bills a little bit of trouble. Oh yeah, I
can see a Buffalo is not playing well at all,
and you mentioned Carolina while they play at home. I
can absolutely see that being a potential upset.

Speaker 4 (01:20:25):
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Speaker 4 (01:20:44):
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Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
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Speaker 4 (01:20:55):
Adam, what about mister Plumb in the library with a
crow bar?

Speaker 3 (01:21:01):
I don't think mister proulm is there.

Speaker 4 (01:21:03):
No. Okay, I've got some accusations, but it's okay. I'm
I can keep it to myself. Maybe it's just not
your night you know, Phoenix couldn't eat against the clip.

Speaker 2 (01:21:12):
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Speaker 3 (01:21:17):
The fox is the number?

Speaker 4 (01:21:20):
Do we nfhone?

Speaker 3 (01:21:21):
Let's go to Saint Paul, Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (01:21:22):
Renee, he wants to check in talk about the FBI
slash NBA slash mob gambling scandal.

Speaker 4 (01:21:28):
What's going on? Renee? Renee, You're on the air, Hello,
wild Cardlos.

Speaker 12 (01:21:32):
This is Renee over from St.

Speaker 5 (01:21:33):
Paul.

Speaker 11 (01:21:34):
I just want to talk about the NBA.

Speaker 7 (01:21:36):
Really makes me think about Altani.

Speaker 12 (01:21:39):
I really think he was in.

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
The to now and it really proves it, otherwise that
I would have been after him too.

Speaker 4 (01:21:44):
Well, they got his translator and said, right, so wait,
this whole time you thought that he was so even
after the fallout, you thought that the scapegoat was his
was his translator.

Speaker 3 (01:21:54):
You thought that Altani was still was part of the
entire thing.

Speaker 12 (01:21:57):
I think.

Speaker 2 (01:21:58):
So, you know, you really don't notice that two million
dollars are missing. I would notice it right away.

Speaker 4 (01:22:03):
I mean, I think that's a legitimate argument, legitimate claim.
He's got two million in the couch cushions, also legitimate. Yes,
he's got his deal with New Balance and then the Dodgers,
the fact that he could defer all that money tells
that he's OK.

Speaker 2 (01:22:18):
Because even the argument people tried to make him Renee
thanks for the call, man, appreciate it. The argument that
people tried to make is like, well, you know, he
was on his rookie deal the entire time with the Angels,
so he never really made that much money. But to
your point, God knows how many endorsements he had in Japan.
He had new balance here domestically and a bunch of
other revenue he could not could be I can almost
guarantee he's one of those athletes who just probably never

(01:22:39):
even spent the dime of the money he actually made
on the field. He just spent his endorsement money and
invested everything else.

Speaker 4 (01:22:44):
Maybe he went big on bitcoin too, when two years
ago was like aet twenty grand and now it's at
one hundred and ten. Right, all right, Uh, we're going
big with the rest of our NFL six pack. We
still have four more categories. Mark what's next here?

Speaker 1 (01:22:58):
Beer goggles, Kate Kevin?

Speaker 4 (01:23:00):
Yes, what you got here?

Speaker 6 (01:23:01):
What game?

Speaker 4 (01:23:02):
That shouldn't look so good? But you put on the
beer goggles and all of a sudden you're like, you know,
what This is a great matchup.

Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
I'm going to the Saints at home against the Buccaneers
Breeze Bucks.

Speaker 3 (01:23:11):
On paper, it looks like a complete blowout.

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
We talked about how great the Buccaneers are, Super Bowl contender,
Baker Mayfield, potential MVP candidate, I think the front runner
for a lot of people right now. The issue with
Tampa Bay, specifically the injury bug, and it's biting him
pretty hard right now. So Mike Evans was out, came back,
now broke his collarbone. They say they hope he's back
for the end of the season, but at this point

(01:23:32):
in time, I wouldn't be very optimistic about that. With
an injury like that, you still don't have Chris Godwin,
mcmillian's out, Bucky Irving is still out, thankfully, Abuka is
back and somewhat healthy. But the problem is they just
don't have a lot else at this skill position. So
now you're facing a Saints team that's in a rebuild
but has been pretty competitive in most of the games
they've played this year. I know it hasn't necessarily shown

(01:23:53):
and wins and losses, and I know moral victories don't
count for much, but I do think that team is
playing pretty damn hard for Kellen Moore. And even though
I think Spencer Rattler is a backup at best, you shouldn't.

Speaker 3 (01:24:04):
Be starting for an NFL team.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
Okay, he's actually showed himself pretty well all things considered.
So divisional games just tend to be tough in general.
And now that Tampa Bay has been brought down to
pick or two based on their injury situation, I do
think this has to put to the opportunity or the
potential to be a really entertaining game.

Speaker 4 (01:24:22):
All Right, I'm gonna take this in a different direction
with my beer goggles selection here because I just, yeah,
we should go get.

Speaker 6 (01:24:31):
Some beers, I look at some girls or whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:24:34):
You ever have a really good sports video game that
you know you dominated to the point where it really
wasn't competitive against the computer and you had to set
new goals, Like I remember at my peak in madd
in two thousand and three, when I knew I was
really cooking if I had twenty eight points in the
first quarter with five minute quarters against the hardest difficulty level.

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So instead of just winning the game, I was trying
to outdo my own personal record when I put my
beer goggles on. That's how I see this Colts Titans
game in indeed being interesting. It's really about the Colts
and just how badly they could end up beating the Titans.
They're favored by fourteen, as you mentioned, and listen to

(01:25:16):
these numbers.

Speaker 3 (01:25:17):
I'll sleep on that hook, all right, pointing.

Speaker 4 (01:25:19):
There fourteen and a half. Listen to these numbers. With
the Colts offense so far this season, they're first in
points per game at thirty three point one, first in
yards per game at six point four, first in point
differential they're plus ninety two. They're first and first downs, first,
and fewest punts at only twelve.

Speaker 3 (01:25:38):
I have a punt.

Speaker 4 (01:25:39):
They're they're really not playing the Titans on Sunday. They're
playing with themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:25:45):
That's not sexual.

Speaker 4 (01:25:46):
They are averaging the most points per drive this century,
and Mike put one hundred points on the Titans, Like,
look at this. They're getting three point four to six
points per drive. That's bad than the two thousand and
seven New England Patriots. That's better than the twenty eighteen
Kansas City Chiefs, the twenty twenty Green Bay Packers, the

(01:26:08):
twenty twenty four Detroit Lions, what is this the twenty
eighteen New Orleans Saints. They were that good offensively, No,
the end of Drew Brees. Their most points scored in
the single game the Colts is fifty eight back in
nineteen seventy six against the Buffalo Bills. Wasn't Peyton Manning, Obviously,
wasn't Johnny Unitas was this guy named Bert Jones who

(01:26:29):
was the Offensive Player of the Year and the league MVP.
While Daniel Jones is not related, he does have a
chance to make some history this season on Sunday at
the expense of the Titans, and they have a good
chance to pass what the two thousand and four Colts did,
which is score five hundred and twenty two points in

(01:26:49):
a season they were averaging thirty two points six points
per game. These Colts are at two hundred and thirty
two points total so far, but they're averaging more points
per game at thirty three point one. So they're two
hundred and ninety points away from passing Peyton Manning's two
thousand and four team. According to my math, it's math,
it's arithmets. They got ten games left. That means they

(01:27:11):
need to average twenty nine points. The rest of the
way to match it. Now, I don't think they'll do it.

Speaker 3 (01:27:16):
I was gonna say, how likely do you think that is?

Speaker 4 (01:27:18):
Probably not And even if they barely do it, they're
still getting an extra game because you play seventeen now,
So I would still say that's not as impressive as
what Peyton Manning was doing back in two thousand and four,
especially because we know offensive points and scoring everything is
up now. Everything is leaning towards helping out offenses. But

(01:27:39):
still with how much cam Ward fumbles the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
Well, that play, that last play last week that has
shades of Jamis Winston in the Rose Bowl against Oregon.

Speaker 4 (01:27:47):
I mean, I don't know what's gonna happen in Indy
against the Colts on Sunday. They could do something special.
We shall see. That's my bear goggles game.

Speaker 3 (01:27:55):
They can lose seventeen to ten.

Speaker 4 (01:27:57):
Well, that's the NFL.

Speaker 3 (01:27:58):
I'm just saying.

Speaker 2 (01:27:59):
That's the thing is like expect and it makes all
the sense in the world mine doesn't. The fact that
I have that, you know as a as a trap
game for the Colts.

Speaker 3 (01:28:07):
You look at all the numbers, you look at how
the teams are playing. None of it makes sense.

Speaker 4 (01:28:10):
Nobody's as good as they were last week or as
bad as they were last week. In the NFL, it's
hard to project.

Speaker 3 (01:28:17):
All right, what do we have next?

Speaker 6 (01:28:18):
Mark?

Speaker 13 (01:28:20):
Oh my god, Oh my god.

Speaker 10 (01:28:36):
Oh right, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:28:41):
Well, I will say and this is our old Troy
potential of a potential epic fail this weekend. If you
are a Viking fan, it didn't come down to a
field goal on Thursday night because you got your ass
handed to you from opening from the opening kick.

Speaker 4 (01:28:51):
Yeah, you didn't have to wonder about that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
It was out of reach very early on in that game.
I am going to go to the Baltimore Ravens at
home against the Chicago Bears. I know a lot of
people still have optimism that the Ravens can make a
run at the postseason this year. I know, Adam, you
do as well. You did a rant about this a
couple of weeks ago here on FSR. You tell yourself,
they just needs to get healthy.

Speaker 6 (01:29:10):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:29:11):
Their schedule isn't super tough. No, and I get that,
But if you look at the facts of the situation
right now, even if Lamar Jackson is healthy and playing,
and he's basically a game time decision, at this point.

Speaker 3 (01:29:21):
I'll be honest, I just don't see it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:23):
They're not running the ball as well as they have
in the past, and most importantly, their defense is terrible.
There are thirtieth in total defense, in dead last and
scoring defense. You can't even blame injuries on that, because
the defense has been bad since Game one when they
blew that two touchdown lead to the Buffalo Bills in
opening night. That was before Mattabik got hurt, and then
Humphrey ro quand Smith Kyle Hamilton. Obviously a lot of

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their heavy hitters have gotten hurt in subsequent weeks as well.
So I think what it is for a lot of people,
and correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not saying this
is you. It's really hard to envision a team that
has been this good for this long to be this
bad and look this bad and look like the league
by at this point in time, especially considering that it
happened almost overnight.

Speaker 3 (01:30:03):
This wasn't a gradual fall. I'm not saying, by the way,
I'm not saying.

Speaker 2 (01:30:07):
They're not going to recover next year and be a
playoff team and be good and Lebar Jackson will be
back and playing.

Speaker 4 (01:30:12):
Got an MVP level, but the holes too deep.

Speaker 2 (01:30:14):
I think the hole right now at one in five
is just potentially too deep to crawl out of. And
based on how Chicago is playing and Ben Johnson in
that offense, Caleb is getting better every single week. He's
not dominating by any stretch of the imagination, but the
offense is getting better.

Speaker 3 (01:30:29):
They're running the ball better.

Speaker 2 (01:30:30):
DeAndre Swift is surpassed one hundred yards the past couple
of games. And again, Baltimore can't stop anybody recently. And
I don't think the bye week is gonna all of
a sudden be the magic elixir for a team that's
been hemorrhaging defensively all season long. It's just it's a
talent issue at this point in time, an execution issue.
So I think with the progression of that offense that
the Baltimore Ravens have a really, really good chance of

(01:30:53):
having a repeat of what happened a couple of weeks
ago in Baltimore against the Houston Texans.

Speaker 4 (01:30:57):
Okay, I'm taking this in a different direction here with
my old Troy epic fail.

Speaker 6 (01:31:03):
Oh trying.

Speaker 1 (01:31:06):
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:31:09):
I feel like Chicago is getting a little too excited lately.

Speaker 3 (01:31:12):
O going to the opposite direction on me here.

Speaker 4 (01:31:14):
It's like they forgot what it's like to root for
sports in their city, and specifically with the Bears. They
think they're out of the woods, but they forget about
the rhetorical question. Does a bear poop in the woods? Obviously, yes,
a bear does, so the Bears can never fully be
out of the woods if you follow me there. And
I think with Lamar Jackson going back, the Ravens might

(01:31:37):
take them to the wood shed. This won't be belt
to ask. This will be Hacksaw Jim Duggans two by
four teen. Yes, that is a fourign two Bears team,
winners of four straight. Let me see here. They beat
the Cowboys, the Raiders, and Commanders and Saints. Unlike Colin Cowherd,

(01:31:59):
who's getting way too excited about Kayleb Williams because he
likes anything usc for whatever reason. Uh, you're gonna see
a QB that is still young and still inexperienced in
Baltimore on Sunday. I just got a feeling this Ravens
team is going to be rejuvenated and re energized after
a week off and having Lamar Jackson back.

Speaker 3 (01:32:21):
The Ravens might be back. We don't know if he's back.

Speaker 4 (01:32:24):
By the way, well, if he's not back, then this
is definitely off the table. In fact, if you discount
everything did practice on.

Speaker 3 (01:32:30):
Friday, I'll give you that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:31):
But as at this point in time, it sounds as
if he's a game time decision.

Speaker 4 (01:32:34):
Look, you can't go one in six and then make
the playoffs.

Speaker 6 (01:32:38):
This is.

Speaker 4 (01:32:40):
Yeah, I'd say so going down.

Speaker 3 (01:32:43):
Making the playoffs is tough sledding.

Speaker 4 (01:32:45):
You're right, but they got so many divisional games left.
I just feel like the AFC Norse will only get
one team, whoever wins the division is making the playoffs.
If Lamar's not playing, forget about it. But I think
he's going to play, and I think he's gonna play well,
and I think the Bears could be in trouble. They're
a little too high and Mighty Chicago's not supposed to

(01:33:06):
have good QB play. Ever, that's not what they do.
It's about defense and running the rock.

Speaker 2 (01:33:12):
Okay, well they're running the rock and the defense is
actually performing pretty decently right now.

Speaker 4 (01:33:16):
Yeah, Well, Lamar's coming. Okay, the hell's coming with them.

Speaker 2 (01:33:19):
Lamar's coming, like like the injured player in Madden who's
dragging his leg running.

Speaker 3 (01:33:23):
Down the fields?

Speaker 4 (01:33:24):
Yeah, who was that packer?

Speaker 2 (01:33:26):
Exactly? It was, yes, all right, Mark, what do we
have next under the microscope? Yes, the team player or
the game. Everybody should watch closely. And since we're talking
AFC North that I'm I'm going with the Bengals and
that offense versus the Jets. We were half joking three
weeks ago when we said that the Bengals should trade
for Joe Flacco.

Speaker 4 (01:33:44):
I wasn't joking.

Speaker 2 (01:33:45):
Okay, well maybe you weren't. I certainly was. I said
they should trade for a quarterback. I didn't think Well, one.

Speaker 4 (01:33:49):
We were joking that we didn't think the Browns would do.

Speaker 3 (01:33:52):
It, right, That's the thing we didn't Now that did
Mike Tomlin.

Speaker 2 (01:33:55):
We didn't think the Browns would do it because he's
a quarterback, starting caliber quarterback within the division. And then
two we were like, even if you did trade for him,
I figured the offensive line was so bad and he's
a statue back there. The inexperienced is zact tailor's offense,
which he admitted to when he got traded there would
not be able to bear any fruit.

Speaker 4 (01:34:12):
Hold on was Mark saying he's as old as a goat,
because he definitely ain't the goat. Well, I don't know
how to interpret that ghost now he's old.

Speaker 2 (01:34:19):
Hey, he looked like you last week all right against Pittsburgh.
That's for damn sure. Based on what happened on Monday night,
he and Jamar Chase put on an offensive clinic between
the two of them.

Speaker 3 (01:34:27):
Now, granted, Steelers defense has been terrible this year.

Speaker 2 (01:34:29):
I think they're third till I think thirtieth out to
double check on that, but I think theyre thirtieth in
total defense all season long.

Speaker 4 (01:34:34):
That's not supposed to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:34:35):
No, it isn't, not for the steel curtain out there.
They've been pretty bad on defense. Their scoring defense, I
think is the middle of the pack where they give
up a crap ton of yards.

Speaker 6 (01:34:43):
So now you have the.

Speaker 2 (01:34:44):
Bengals setos the old and seven Jets who are desperate
to get their first win. Aaron Glenn, as you mentioned
feud in questions for about the team owner and the
coach he's talking about with the quarterback. It's just a
giant mess out there. So now a chance for the
Bengals offense to keep that momentum going if I'm placing
them under the microscope, because that offense can ball out
again this week. I think, all of a sudden, we're
talking about a legit division race in the AFC North.

(01:35:06):
You're right, that does not include the Baltimore Ravens. To
be honest with you, I think that turns into a
two team race between Cincinnati and the Pittsburgh Steelers, who
they just.

Speaker 3 (01:35:14):
Beat on Monday Night.

Speaker 2 (01:35:15):
I know the Bengals defense sucks, but so does Pittsburgh's,
and so does Baltimore's.

Speaker 3 (01:35:20):
And Cleveland's defense is great, but their offense is terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:35:23):
So everybody in the division from that standpoint is somewhat
on equal footing to a certain degree.

Speaker 4 (01:35:27):
All got flaws, so no one's running away from anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:35:29):
And now that the Bengals actually have a good, competent
quarterback behind center, I think they have a legitimate chance
to get back into the division race.

Speaker 4 (01:35:36):
All right.

Speaker 9 (01:35:37):
I like that.

Speaker 4 (01:35:38):
Actually, that makes a lot of sense to me. I'm
with you. I'm putting all the NFL coaches under the microscope, right,
all of them, because they can't seem to understand how
to manage the damn clock. Another mistake was made Monday
night in Seattle, I was reminded of this quote from

(01:35:58):
Petros Papadakas, who we had on earlier, were back in
the day. He said this, these coaches are just dumb
ass pe teachers.

Speaker 6 (01:36:07):
Dumb ass.

Speaker 4 (01:36:08):
Well, I definitely weren't math teachers, I'll tell you that because.

Speaker 3 (01:36:11):
I compensated pe teachers for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:36:13):
Yeah, Demiko Ryans, he did end up blaming his kicker,
Kimie Fairburn, for just not kicking it out of bounds
so you could get that extra time out by making
Seattle run a play before the two minute warning, which
happened on Monday night. But I don't know if I
can believe Demiko Ryans after all the coaching errors we've
seen over the years. They happen every week. These are

(01:36:36):
not clock malfunctions, these are brain malfunctions. Ben Johnson had
one in Week one, same situation. Yeah, not just kicking
it out of bounds save the two minute warning against
the Vikings. It's not a field position game at that point.
There's only a five yard difference between a touchback, which
puts it at the thirty five, and just kicking it
out of bounds, which puts it at the forty. These

(01:36:59):
coaches Rains are out of bounce. Maybe they should be
the ones who have to take a wonder like test
or some type of clock management course every year to
renew your certification. You know, if you're like seventy years
or older, you got to take a driver's test every
five years.

Speaker 3 (01:37:16):
Vision test and all that.

Speaker 4 (01:37:17):
Yep, maybe something like that for these NFL coaches. Like
I got an idea for a new game show. Remember
that show, Are you Smarter than a fifth grader?

Speaker 6 (01:37:25):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:37:25):
What about are you smarter than an NFL coach? What's
Mike McCarthy doing right now? I think I saw him
on the other PMS show recently, Like I could see
him losing every week to drunk cowboy fans on are
you Smarter than an NFL coach?

Speaker 3 (01:37:39):
You know, it's so funny.

Speaker 2 (01:37:40):
They have like entire departments dedicated to clock management and
game time situations. Could have folded me and like it was,
are you sure? How much are you paying these Where
are all these people on Sundays? Do you fund those departments?
Because they're worthless?

Speaker 3 (01:37:53):
They really are. It's ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (01:37:54):
It's every week with these coaches. Kevin and I'm not
that smart Okay, you dumb man. Yes, but we all
see it. We all see it happening in real time.
We're first guessing this stuff, and they screw it up.

Speaker 3 (01:38:06):
Every single week.

Speaker 4 (01:38:07):
It's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:38:08):
All right, all right, this is FNA on FSR, Fox
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Speaker 4 (01:39:01):
This is fn A on FSR. Before we get back
and finish off the NFL six pack and then move
into our college football forecast. Kyle calling from Vegas and CAP.
I wonder what a guy from Vegas wants to talk about, Kyle,
what's going on?

Speaker 12 (01:39:15):
Well, first off, let me agree with what y'all said
about the Bears. I am a Chicago fan through and through.
I am always pessimistic. I'm never optimistic when it comes
down to my Chicago teams. Allude from our clubs. This
year we got to the Pro season. Great, not good enough,
but no, I wanted to make mention of I can't

(01:39:38):
wait to see what all the other leagues are doing
now with when looking into potential gamblings or potential illegal
betting going on. I mean, we had the show a
tiny thing.

Speaker 6 (01:39:49):
What was that?

Speaker 12 (01:39:50):
Just last year we had this new the new NBA one.
I mean, the NBA has always been making the headlines
for illegal gambling. I'm waiting to see what Roger Bedell's
going to and then what the NHL is gonna find.
I think the NHL is probably they're probably so deep
into it that all the guys are probably connected. Because
hockey's been a thing for I don't know how long,

(01:40:12):
but it's been around for a good little second. So
I mean, I'm pretty sure that these guys are in
bed with just about the same amount of people that
Chauncey Boots was into. But the one thing that I
cannot connect, and I know everybody is trying to do.

Speaker 10 (01:40:27):
So.

Speaker 12 (01:40:29):
Who snitched somebody didn't get paid.

Speaker 2 (01:40:32):
I mean, I can tell you, Oh, Adam has a
theory on this. Cole, I'm glad that you that you asked, well.

Speaker 4 (01:40:37):
Only because this guy said so himself, Gilbert Arenas, he
got busted in July for back room gambling, and people
suspected when this story came out because gil came out
right afterwards and was like, I'm not going to jail
because I'll snitch. I'll tell you openly, I'm gonna snitch
on everybody. So some people suspect that's where this started.
I don't know. It sounds like they were investigating it

(01:40:58):
for a while.

Speaker 12 (01:40:59):
He made Nichols know the tweet about the Rachel Nichols
things and that he was going to sew it for
defamation's and all this other stuff. It kind of throws
a wrench and the quirk there just a tad bit.
But I mean, we I'm from Chicago, obviously, but the
street code and conduct is the snitches get stitches, and

(01:41:21):
this dude didn't get stitches yet, so I mean, And
the Chauncey Billups remark was is I'm an upstanding citizen.
I don't do stuff like that. That is the lamest
chat GPT apology that I've ever heard. If chat GPT
actually wrote that, because I mean, it would probably I.

Speaker 2 (01:41:41):
Think that was a quote from his lawyer, Kyle I
actually had that, So if his lawyer used chat GPT.

Speaker 4 (01:41:46):
Yeah, the statement that was released and then somebody else
had a statement from an anonymous GM being like Chauncey
Billips is one of the best people I know. It's
like cool, they can also get caught up in something
like that. Right, that's all. Thank you for the call, Kyle, though.
We appreciate that and insight on that.

Speaker 2 (01:42:03):
I will say the NFL, at least for what we
know or what has been public, has been fairly proactive
on this. I talked about Calvin Ridley, we talked about
the group of Colts players and others. Major League Baseball
has suspended multiple players over gambling. Emmanuel class As roped
up an investigation, right now he wants to play in
winter ball, and Major League Baseball won't let him do
it because they don't want to play in competitively in
any capacity until they figure out what this whole betting

(01:42:25):
thing with him might be.

Speaker 4 (01:42:26):
I think we probably made a mistake normalizing all this
like too much, too soon, too fast. Maybe I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:42:33):
I mean one point Jalen Brown did make. Now, granted,
you know the players are getting their cut of this too.
All of this gets, you know, part of the revenue share.

Speaker 4 (01:42:40):
Now, what the hell is Jalen Brown talking about? We
don't get a part of it, Like you split the pie,
so part of the pie is gambling money.

Speaker 2 (01:42:47):
Yeah, so that part from his from his standpoint, is disingenuous,
but he is right.

Speaker 3 (01:42:52):
Everything that is done.

Speaker 2 (01:42:53):
But that's that's business, that's capitalism is for the almighty dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:42:56):
They're gonna do whatever it takes.

Speaker 2 (01:42:57):
They know they've been missing out on hundreds of millions,
help billions of dollars by not being in bed with
the DraftKings and a bunch of other sponsors.

Speaker 3 (01:43:04):
So that's why they do it.

Speaker 4 (01:43:05):
Yeah, once they realize, like how easy it could be,
and you gamified and instead of saying over under, you
say more than or less than, and somehow that takes
away the stigma for some people. So we're going all in.
There really were there was too much money to be made.
There's no going back now. So we're going to see
more of this stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:43:27):
Keep popping up.

Speaker 2 (01:43:27):
It just depends on how the commissioners and how the
leagues decide to handle them only up and up or
try to bury them, like allegedly the NBA deal with
Terry Rogier.

Speaker 3 (01:43:34):
All right, Mark, what's our next category redemption route?

Speaker 2 (01:43:38):
The teamer player looking to bounce back from last week's performance?

Speaker 4 (01:43:41):
Adam, I'd say my redemption round last week was pretty strong.
Taking the Lions. They covered, they did over the Buccaneers. Now,
I think the Giants are going to redeem themselves by
never getting up by nineteen points on a team ever again,
and definitely not this week on the road in Philly.
I would take a nap during that improbable Broncos comeback

(01:44:03):
on them last week. Well, Sunday, ses I woke up
just in time to see Jackson Dart getting the end
zone for that last touchdown, thinking, oh, they're still gonna
pull it out. That's that's gonna be enough, narrator says
it was not. How do you lead nineteen to nothing
after three quarters, score two more touchdowns in the fourth

(01:44:24):
quarter and still lose thirty three to thirty two. That
seems impossible.

Speaker 3 (01:44:29):
That seems right to Esque right there.

Speaker 4 (01:44:31):
But that's why they call themselves with the Giants for
giant comebacks against them. The Broncos win probability was as
low as zero point seven percent, less than one percent,
with six thirty eight left in the fourth quarter, facing
a fourth and three, trailing twenty six to eight. I
still can't believe that happened. I'm not certain it will

(01:44:54):
ever happen again. But the Giants aren't getting up by
nineteen on anyone the rest of the season. This is
twenty eight to three Falcons over the Patriots like that
score is cursed. It's damned. Don't ever get up by
nineteen again. And they ain't gonna have to worry about
it in Philly against the Eagles this week.

Speaker 3 (01:45:14):
They might not. Now I also have this as my redemption.

Speaker 2 (01:45:16):
Oh really, the Giants after blowing that big lead against
Diver and I think they show themselves well again against Philadelphia,
who granted I know they beat Minnesota last week. But
if you actually watched that game, Minnesota moved that ball
up and down the field on them. They just couldn't
convert in the red zone. They had to kick five
field goals. Carson Wentz picked six another major interception, which
is played Carson Wentz his entire career.

Speaker 3 (01:45:37):
You know, good in between the twenties.

Speaker 2 (01:45:39):
And then when it comes down to I guess nut
cutting time for lack of a better term, he usually
ends up falling short. So I know when the Giants
beat them a couple of Thursdays ago, Jalen Carter didn't play.
That's a huge loss on the Eagles defensive front. But
even with Jalen Carter, their pass rush has not been good,
their defensive backfield has not been good. Offensively upfront, they
have not been out physically people like they have. That's

(01:45:59):
part of the why Saquon Barkley hasn't quite gotten off yet.
Jalen Hurts has had a couple of spectacular halves. He
had a phenomenal second half against Minnesota last week. He
had a phenomenal second half against the Rams earlier this season,
but still pretty inconsistent. So I think the way that
this Giants defensive line can get after them like they
did a couple of weeks ago. Is going to continue.

(01:46:19):
And Jackson Dart as a baller like, yes, he might
not be the most accurate. Yes, he takes too many
unnecessary shots, so it's gonna end up hurting him long term.

Speaker 4 (01:46:26):
Oh yeah, they just got fined by the way make
money for the CTE stuff and him being in the
protocol ten or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:46:33):
Ball scatab They are all Scataboo catches stray.

Speaker 4 (01:46:36):
Why is he getting.

Speaker 2 (01:46:37):
Because nobody other than the medical personnel and the player
who is hurt or allowed in the medical tent and
Scataboo walked in there.

Speaker 4 (01:46:43):
We're not allowed to check on your friends.

Speaker 3 (01:46:45):
I mean, I would hope.

Speaker 4 (01:46:47):
On your homies.

Speaker 2 (01:46:48):
Not The Merraw family would just pay the fine for
him usually, And it's like fifty grand or something in
the grand for me, that's a lot for him, it's
not that damn much.

Speaker 3 (01:46:56):
So not that big of a deal.

Speaker 2 (01:46:57):
So hard to sweep the defending champions, I get that part,
But just based on how these teams are built now
they're playing right now, I think I'm calling the Giants
beating the.

Speaker 3 (01:47:05):
Eagles for a second time. This year for the second
time in three weeks.

Speaker 4 (01:47:07):
Damn Yeah, that's pretty balls yourself. You got some of
that Jackson Dart energy.

Speaker 3 (01:47:13):
I do, all right. I've taken too many shots to
the head. So that's what it is.

Speaker 4 (01:47:16):
There's your college excuse me, there's your NFL six pack.
Let's get to our college football conversation college football forecast
with f and Kevin. We talked about this earlier with
Petros Papadakis. You really think UCLA has any shot against Indiana?
So win or cover the spread? So I guess covering

(01:47:40):
the spread because Indiana is that good right now? Would
show something from UCLA just covering, Absolutely not.

Speaker 3 (01:47:48):
But twenty five I think is what I want.

Speaker 4 (01:47:49):
Twenty six and a half is what I'm looking at
right now. Signetti does not care. He's gonna run it up.

Speaker 3 (01:47:54):
He even said and that that's what was it sixty one.

Speaker 2 (01:47:56):
They scored sixty one points against Illinois earlier this year,
and they could have called off the dogs when they
score thirty eight. He was like, you never know, the
team might come back. We want to make sure we
keep our foot on the gas and play every single
you know, the whole cliche of you know, we want
to keep our foot on the gas and play the
same way in the first quarter in the fourth quarter.
We want to play the same way, whether upper hundred
or down one hundred. He believes it and his players

(01:48:19):
play that way.

Speaker 4 (01:48:19):
That's that. Who was it that would always have guys
firing off the line? He coached Rutgers Greg greg Giano.

Speaker 2 (01:48:27):
Yeah, he tried to do in the NFL when he
was with the Buccaneers. That did not go over well.

Speaker 4 (01:48:30):
No, it did not well.

Speaker 2 (01:48:31):
By the way, things are not going well for him
right now. A Rutgers by the way, either he's back.
We talk about a dog guess game. Who's watching Rutgers
in Purdue today? Issues raising their hand for that one?

Speaker 6 (01:48:40):
Not many?

Speaker 4 (01:48:41):
So is in trouble.

Speaker 3 (01:48:43):
Yeah, I think UCLA drops this one.

Speaker 4 (01:48:44):
Even though they're averaging thirty three points per game since
Jerry Neuheisel took over his doc. Before that was fourteen
points per game. Eco's playing well the same Maryland no
any respect. Top five scoring offense, top five defense.

Speaker 2 (01:48:59):
He went into Oregon and put it on in Eugene
and put it on the Ducks.

Speaker 4 (01:49:03):
No, the best part of that to me was their
quarterback Fernando Mendoza Andando.

Speaker 6 (01:49:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:49:08):
Uh that picked six he threw and then responding backwards, Yes,
with a touchdown drive. Incredible the confidence it takes to
do that at Austin. All right, moving on number three,
Texas A and M. They're AU minus two and a
half at number twenty, LSU, I did bring this up
last week. I asked you, is Brian Kelly in trouble?

(01:49:31):
Could could he be on the hot seat next?

Speaker 2 (01:49:33):
Considering the way things are going right now in this
college football landscape and the amount of the buyouts don't
seem to matter.

Speaker 4 (01:49:39):
You find out and vote, yeah, you find one booster.

Speaker 3 (01:49:41):
Is willing to pay a guy to go away.

Speaker 2 (01:49:43):
I mean if LSU at this point, which by the way,
I do not expect them to be Texas Texas A
and M. Texas A and M is complete. They're good
on offense, they're good on defense. LSU is still trying
to figure out what's going on on the offense offensive
side of the ball, which is Brian Kelly's baby, by
the way, his job and having figured it out.

Speaker 4 (01:49:58):
That's what that's what just gonna make him lose his job.

Speaker 2 (01:50:00):
I So Texas A and M ends up covering the
spread here. I don't think they run LSU off the field,
but I see them winning by a touchdown or so.
And LSU officially with their third loss after this, because
they're five and two coming into this, will be officially,
unofficially officially eliminated. Actually, I should say from the CFP,
they're not gonna make it with three losses.

Speaker 4 (01:50:19):
They're out.

Speaker 3 (01:50:20):
They're out, You're out. And they do not win this
game against Texas.

Speaker 6 (01:50:23):
A and M.

Speaker 4 (01:50:23):
This is pathetic. They haven't scored more than twenty four
points against an FBS opponent. They're averaging just twenty and
a half against anybody that's close to quality. And obviously
they lost last week to Vandy, so yeah, I think
Brian Kelly's in trouble.

Speaker 2 (01:50:40):
Vandy's which is equality loss. By the way, this isn't
old school Vanderbilt. So but they're supposed to win more
of these games. They're supposed to put up some points
here and there.

Speaker 3 (01:50:49):
They're supposed to be part of the elite.

Speaker 4 (01:50:50):
The entire offseason is spent talking about fixing their offense. Yeah,
and we can't fix it, and they are.

Speaker 2 (01:50:57):
They only have the number twenty next to the LA
because they're LSU because the way if you watch them
play this year, they're not that good as a team.

Speaker 3 (01:51:03):
They just aren't.

Speaker 4 (01:51:04):
That's fair SEC bias, SEC inflation. Always where else do
you want to go here? Ole Miss?

Speaker 9 (01:51:10):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:51:10):
Yeah, because that's the big one in the SEC.

Speaker 2 (01:51:12):
With the matchup between ole Miss and Oklahoma, Oklahoma's defense
is real.

Speaker 3 (01:51:16):
Ole Miss always finds a way to disappoint.

Speaker 2 (01:51:19):
You said, I set this last week until unless and
until Lank Kiffin gets one of those marquee victories in
conference against the top ten opponent, I ain't picking them, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:51:27):
Because he always finds a way to fold.

Speaker 2 (01:51:29):
Couldn't be Georgia, No, No, So now you hit the
road against Oklahoma, one of the great defense.

Speaker 3 (01:51:34):
Uh Mattiir was solid last week, nothing spectacular.

Speaker 4 (01:51:38):
He still doesn't look right, averaging like one hundred and
eighty six yards per game since he came back from
the thumb injury.

Speaker 2 (01:51:44):
Yeah, and so Oklahoma leaves a lot to be desired offensively,
which is why ole Miss still has a shot in
this game. Because as good as Oklahoma is defensively, Ole
Miss can't score enough points on offense.

Speaker 3 (01:51:53):
They're not gonna get shut out.

Speaker 4 (01:51:55):
Right, They're getting five and a half by the way,
Oh yes.

Speaker 3 (01:51:58):
They are switch. I love that line, to be honest
with you.

Speaker 4 (01:52:01):
So you think they're covering.

Speaker 2 (01:52:02):
I think all misfinds way to cover that spread. I
won't say easily, but I can see all miscovering the spread.
I can see him winning the game. I think old
mis can score more points offensively than Oklahoma can.

Speaker 4 (01:52:11):
Last one quickly, number fifteen, Miszoo at number ten Vandy.
Vandy has never been ranked top ten. They're there now
after beating LSU.

Speaker 2 (01:52:20):
There top ten like in the nineteen forties or something,
but I would say stone count and the modern era
Vanderbilt has not. And this is also a de facto
elimination game to a certain degree too, which isn't fair
though it's weird. They're both SEC teams, but they're basically
not seen as blue bloods. So if it comes down
to a two loss Vanderbilt and a two loss, let's

(01:52:40):
just say Alabama just to throw a team out there,
Alabama's gonna get the benefit of the doubt.

Speaker 4 (01:52:44):
Oh yeah, that's just how it works.

Speaker 2 (01:52:46):
So if you're Vandy or Missouri and you're not necessarily
a blue blood in the SEC, this is a de
facto playoff game.

Speaker 4 (01:52:52):
For you, I think you gotta be able to win Missouri.
To me, not just in this game. They're in trouble
in general because they still have Texas A and M.
They still have a home, but they still have Arkansas
like they're gonna have probably three more losses. I already
have eliminated them, to be honest, Yeah, which is not
fair because they played Bama close at home and that's
the only loss.

Speaker 2 (01:53:10):
I'm not willing to do that because I do think
they're still a quality team.

Speaker 1 (01:53:13):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:53:13):
Their best weapon Hardy a Hardy.

Speaker 2 (01:53:16):
They're running back the transferming Louisiana Tech has not played
well the last couple of weeks, and he has boo
eyed them. And the problem is for Bulah is a
good quarterback, but not when you have to put the
team on his shoulders. So if they run into a
situation where they cannot run the ball, they can't win.
Vanderbilt is spectacular because Diego Pavia can beat you with
his legs and his arm and is carrying that offense.
And really the only reason they lost to Alabama it

(01:53:37):
was because they did what they usually don't, turn the
ball over, specifically in the red zone. They don't do that.
Vanderbilt actually beats Alabama and it's still undefeated right now.

Speaker 4 (01:53:45):
I wonder if Vandy and they shouldn't look past Missouri.
Of course, especially for Texas the week after, but Texas
still has that name, it still has that cachet to it.
I wonder if that's an element of this game at all.

Speaker 2 (01:53:58):
I don't think Vandy over Loood. I don't think their
head coach allows them to do that. In Missouri, I
do think is a quality opponent. I know that if
you look at their resume, they haven't really beaten anybody
of note and their losses to Alabama, but to your point,
it was a close loss. I still think Missouri is
a good quality SEC opponent. I do not think that
Vanderbilt takes them lightly, and that's why I think Vandy
covers a spread.

Speaker 4 (01:54:18):
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Coming up next, it's FNA on FSR. Maybe that was money.

Speaker 3 (01:54:39):
Tell me that wasn't money Fna Cotton.

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(01:55:05):
and Sunday morning right here on Fox Sports Radio and
the iHeartRadio app. Well, and then there was one segment, Mark, let's.

Speaker 6 (01:55:13):
Go on too.

Speaker 4 (01:55:17):
All right, here's the update. Now there's a little bit
of controversy here there.

Speaker 3 (01:55:22):
Okay, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:55:24):
Bre wrote down that you had the Chargers last week,
but I went back and listened to it, and like me,
you had the Colts, So that.

Speaker 3 (01:55:32):
Was absolutely did not have the Chargers. That Brie, What
are you doing?

Speaker 13 (01:55:37):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:55:37):
I think I wrote down chargers because I was writing
the matchups, and then I just never went back and
fixed it.

Speaker 4 (01:55:43):
That's my bot.

Speaker 3 (01:55:44):
It happens.

Speaker 4 (01:55:46):
It's confusing sometimes, these spreads. So that means and they
call me honest Adam, the honest abe honest, Adam, Right,
that's the last thing anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:55:58):
You wow, okay, if that's the case, Adam, What happened
to that grill cheese sandwich from last hour?

Speaker 6 (01:56:04):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:56:04):
No, that was different. And I offered Bria protein bar
to make up for just because I ate the rest
of our sandwich a damn protein bar. It was in
the common area, for everyone knows. Kevin, after going oh
and four two weeks ago, went four and oh out
about that total ownership. Four and oh what a response.

(01:56:28):
I thought my three and one would be good enough.
But no, Kevin has to go four and oh last week.
So I'm fourteen and fourteen. He's seventeen eleven. He's three
games better than me overall. You're welcome better in so
many ways overall, but in this two on two off,
he's three games better. All right, Kevin? You want to
give me an on which is sure to win?

Speaker 3 (01:56:48):
Yeah? I feel very confident that this is going to
be sure to win.

Speaker 2 (01:56:51):
How about the Kansas City Chiefs has twelve and a
half point favorites over the Commanders on Monday Night Football.
Commanders without their starting quarterback Jaydon Daniels Marcus Mariota back
in there again, and honestly does not matter who the
starting quarterback for the Commanders is because the Kansas City
Chiefs are officially rolling the offenses back.

Speaker 3 (01:57:08):
The defense never left.

Speaker 4 (01:57:09):
Who is the guy on Twitter that would blowing us up?

Speaker 3 (01:57:11):
I don't know if his name is irrelevant.

Speaker 2 (01:57:13):
I don't remember the guy that told when I said
in week one the Chargers were going to win the
division the Chiefs were going to be a wild card.

Speaker 4 (01:57:17):
That guy, you dumb ass?

Speaker 3 (01:57:19):
Yeah, I guess so.

Speaker 4 (01:57:20):
Oh, we couldn't have predicted all these Chargers and.

Speaker 2 (01:57:22):
No who could ever predict that the Charges will be
banged up by the time we get to the midway
point of the season.

Speaker 3 (01:57:26):
That never happens.

Speaker 4 (01:57:26):
They've never been a cursed franchise. My fault with I
also trap have the Chiefs here because apparently I should
have taken them last week against the Raiders that would
have been easy money. They were like minus fourteen. Where
do they win by thirty?

Speaker 3 (01:57:40):
Thirty one?

Speaker 4 (01:57:41):
To be exactly how many first downs the Raiders have?

Speaker 6 (01:57:43):
Three?

Speaker 2 (01:57:44):
The Raiders had ran thirty plays. The Chiefs converted thirty
first downs, not like they had thirty points, so that
these had more points than the Raiders had have plays run.

Speaker 3 (01:57:55):
That's insane.

Speaker 4 (01:57:56):
We're both going with the Chiefs minus twelve on Monday
Football against the Commanders. Who cares a quarterback? What's the
other on for you?

Speaker 2 (01:58:03):
My other on is the differ Broncos three and a
half point favorites over the Cowboys and other Cowboys offense
high flying can play extremely well the different Broncos, and
I feel like I've been saying this all season long,
I'm expecting their offense to wake up and be consistent.

Speaker 3 (01:58:16):
They had a great quarter last week.

Speaker 2 (01:58:18):
How they finished, I'm not one hundred percent sure, but
I trust that Broncos defense to play well against Dallas.
I think the Broncos got to get that cover the
spread at three and a half points over the Cowboys.

Speaker 4 (01:58:26):
All right, I'm gonna go with from my other on,
my other favorite the New England Patriots minus seven at
home against the Cleveland Browns. The Browns got their big
victory over the Miami Dolphins at home, and the Patriots
are rolling May's balin man. They won in Tennessee. He's
putting up completion percentage records like it's incredible what they're

(01:58:49):
doing right now. I like New England laying the points
seven at home over the Cleveland Browns.

Speaker 2 (01:58:57):
All right, my off, Ravens seven point favorites over the Bears.
I already talked about it earlier. I think the Ravens
are done. I'm calling the Chicago Bears to cover the
spread and get that victory in Baltimore.

Speaker 4 (01:59:07):
Okay, I'm gonna go with the San Francisco forty nine
ers on the road against the Houston Texans. Niners are
getting two and a half against the Texans team that
you know, the defense ain't that bad, but their offensive
time is rough. And I just like the competency that

(01:59:27):
we've seen from the San Francisco forty nine ers. No
matter who is available, they get coached up right, They're
getting two and a half points. Maybe they only lose
by two. It's possible, and I'm golden.

Speaker 3 (01:59:39):
My other off.

Speaker 2 (01:59:40):
I'm going with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as three and
a half point favorites over Breeze Saints. Like I said,
I think that's gonna be a really entertaining game, and
I think the Saints actually find a way to cover
the spread.

Speaker 3 (01:59:49):
And make that game close.

Speaker 4 (01:59:51):
They're betting on the Saints.

Speaker 3 (01:59:52):
I'm betting on the New Orleans Saints.

Speaker 4 (01:59:54):
Yes, I am you sure about this?

Speaker 6 (01:59:55):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (01:59:56):
Who was four and oh last week?

Speaker 4 (01:59:58):
What about the week before?

Speaker 6 (01:59:59):
Though?

Speaker 3 (01:59:59):
Exactly?

Speaker 2 (02:00:00):
Why are you talking about old stuff? Stay in the present.
Stay in the present, Adam?

Speaker 4 (02:00:04):
All right? My other off, I'm going with the Sunday
night game and the Steelers covering. They're plus three Aaron
Rodgers versus the Packers. I expect their defense to play
better at some point, and you called it last week.
With the Packers, they've been winning, but in very unimpressive fashion.
It ain't pretty at least Micah showed up last week.

(02:00:24):
But I got Pittsburgh covering plus three at home over
the Packers.

Speaker 3 (02:00:27):
Beautiful.

Speaker 2 (02:00:28):
Thanks Debrie, thanks to Mark, Thanks to you for listening.
The Fellas coming up next here on FSR.

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