Fox Football Saturday with Hartman and Houshmandzadeh: 12/14/2019

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Oh yeah, living the
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(00:23):
of college football over the last couple of weeks, it
is the calm right now. We only have a single
college football game today, and I'm gonna tell you why
Army Navy is the game that should be singled out
on this day. I mean, I I'll put it this way.
When you talk about the great rivalries and you think
of U S C, U C L A, Ohio State, Michigan,

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or Alabama Auburn, you know, Harvard Yale, I mean, there's
there's so many great rivalry games out there. To me,
Army Navy stands out as the rivalry game. And I
love the fact that it is the stand a loan
game on this Saturday. Now, two things go on today.
We have Army Navy and then later on this evening
we're gonna find out who's gonna win the Heisman Trophy.

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So I just I like this sort of calm before
the storm. We're gonna have all the bowl games coming up, obviously,
we have huge games around the National Football League. We're
gonna get it get to in today and Week fifteen
in the NFL. But it's sort of a reflection day,
you know, so to speak, where you you think about
the college football season, like what happened? Like ite's gone.

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We get so excited the season begins, you know, the
end of August September we kick off the college football season.
I like the fact that college football starts a week
before the NFL regular season starts. We get into a
little bit. And the only negative on well those two
negatives in college football. One is that it just seems

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to be over before it begins. Uh. And the other
problem is we haven't resolved an effective way to actually
just had a national champion. It's the only sport on
the planet. Look, if you're a parent out there and
you're involved in youth sports, you have a playoff, right,
you have a first place team plays a fourth place

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team or second third, whatever it is. There there is
a path to win a championship no matter who what
team you're on. And that is just not the case
in college football because half the FBS schools in the
Group of five, there's no path for them to win
a national championship. They know before the season begins that

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they can't win a championship because the committee will never
allow a group of five team into their so called playoff.
Now again, I don't want an indict ESPN on the playoff, um,
but I mean I was watching one of their shows
recently because they're doing a really good retrospective on the
hundred fifty year history of college football, and one of

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the things they were they were voting on was what
were the eleven greatest innovations in the history of college football?
And there was like the line of scrimmage, of the
forward past. I mean, these are obviously evolutionary things that
really changed the whole dynamic of the game of football.
But at number four on their list, and again this

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is an ESPN panel, they said the college football Playoff.
And I'm just like, you're kidding me, right, you're kidding
me so And the reason being, again is that it's
decided by a committee. Anything that's not actually decided on
the field, to me, is not legitimate, and I would

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translate it to any other sport. If you were to
have at the end of the NFL season or Major
League Baseball or NBA or NHL or any sport where
you decide a committee decides which four teams we believe
are the four best teams to belong in a playoff,
there would be nothing but outrage about it. T J.

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Houshman Zada is one of those people that I believe
feels that there is a better path to decide a
national champion than the so called playoff that we have
right now. So here's the thing, t J. A lot
of people, even those that have been proponents of an
expanded playoff, said, yeah, but this year sort of really
worked out. You have three undefeated teams. Oklahoma had a

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one loss, but they won their conference. Really, I mean,
if you were to add teams this year, it would
be excessive. Maybe this is the exception, But do you
still believe or do you believe that an expanded playoff
would be a fairer system to determine a true national champion. Yeah,
I believe. So, you you have to have more teams,

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but I also get you don't want these college athletes
playing an abundance of games either. So it's you would
like to see each major conference represented, but the SEC
will always and it sucks have their second best team

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if they're not in, it's probably historically been better than
the Big twelve champion, the Pac twelve champion, And so
I don't know how you do it. And then if
you expand, you get the nonpower five schools saying hey,
where's our seat at the table. All right, let me
go back. Let's go back to your two thousand Oregon

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State team. Okay, this is a great team, you, Chad,
I mean this was this was a great Okay. So
that was a year that Florida State played Oklahoma in
the BCS Championship game. How would you guys have liked
to have been in a playoff? In an eight school playoff?
You would have certainly been one of these We would
have beaten all those teams. Okay, so this is the again.

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You you you were the prime example of one of
those schools because Oregon State was not a traditional football power,
but you just had this juggernaut team, Ken Singleton, you
had this great team that year, and what a story
that would have been if Oregon State you know you
you blew out Notre Dame in that Fiesta Bowl, But no,
all of a sudden, it's you're going against Oklahoma or

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you're going against Florida State that power and Oregon State wins,
they'd still be talking about you guys twenty years later,
like that was one of the great Cinderella stories of
all time. Oregon State won the national history is probably
one of the best college football teams ever. But because
you're not afforded the opportunity, it's what if, right, what

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could have been? And that's just it's kind of the
world we live in. I truly believe, even if it's expanded,
you're never gonna make everybody happy because then there's gonna
be another team that's just on the outside saying, ah,
wish they had added one more if they do expand
it me just being a fan of football. I'm a fan. Um,

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I don't know if I could go more than six
teams mm hmm. If you just look at it, there's
really these three teams between l s U O, how State,
and Clemson. One of those three are gonna win it, right,
And if if you can, what team can you look
at that's not in it? This year, right, but this

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is this year. But think about this. Imagine if we
saw the BCS this year, one of those three undefeated
teams is out. Yeah if it was how when I
came up where it was BCS Bowl games and can
you imagine the cry from Clemson They're like, let me
get this straight. We've won twenty eight straight games where
the defending national champions and you pick LSU and Ohio State,

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we don't get a shot. Can you imagine I'll cry?
Win l s U was one, they dropped it too.
In Ohio State goes to one. It's been three. USC
was number one in both polls and they were left
out of the bc S championship game. They had Oklahoma
versus l s U and SCS like what and in
SC beat Michigan and the Rose Bowl, the AP recognized

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SC as the champion. So even with the BCS, he's
still had a split national champion. Yeah, it's it's never
gonna be perfect. I don't think anybody can agree and
say that. But if they were to expand the six
games or six teams, I don't think you can complain
about that. I think that's fair. I believe that people

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would tune in to watch because it's more excitement. You
will attract people from different regions because for the most part,
this is a a South national championship and it's always
been that way since the college football playoffs started, because
it's been Clemson in Alabama and Alabama's not in So
you just sub LS. You win this year and it's

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still a South national championship with Ohio State coming from
the Midwest. By the way, this is the six year
of the playoff. In the first five years the number
one seed none of them won the national championship none,
so LS was hoping to reverse that trend. Think about that,
the number one seed is over in this four team playoff.

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So you know, this idea of Cinderella's or upsets, it's
already happening. But to me, if you if you do expand,
like okay, let's say you want eight this year. Okay,
so you would have your one representative the group of five.
Oregon would be in because they won the Pac twelve championship,
and then you would have two at large teams. So

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if we look at the rankings as far as the
college football standings are concerned, who would be in? Would
you take Georgia and Baylor. So if you look right now,
you would have obviously Memphis in because they would represent

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the Group of five. Oregon would be in because they
won the Pac twelve championship, George and Baylor. Could you
see either one of those teams get on a roll,
pull a couple upsets and be in contention for national championship.
I could see Georgia doing well just because they're so
good up front on both sides of the ball. I

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could see Oregon doing extremely well the way they looked
against Utah. Um, I don't, I don't. I don't believe
Better has enough offense to compete with these teams. Defensively,
they're they're very good, but offensively, Uh, I just don't
believe Baylor could compete with any of these teams and
uh college football playoff with exception of Oklahoma because they

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took them to the bring both games. But yeah, Oregon
in Georgia, that that would be interesting. All right, We're
more so Oregon than Georgia because l s. You literally
stomped uh Georgia out well. The way Oregon ran the
ball on a great run defensive Utah for over two yards,
You're like, Wow, Uh, is Oregon really that good? Well,

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we're not gonna know because they're not involved in this
year's playoff. All right, in the guy go Fox Sports
Radio Studios. We're gonna reflect on what kind of college
football season was and still could be. Some of the highlights,
some of the big surprises coming up next the uh
the pageantry of the Army Navy game. I was lucky

(11:16):
enough to go to the game. And I say lucky
because if you've ever actually attended an Army Navy game
and you see all the pageantry with the cadets in
the midship and all the you know, it really is
an impressive side. It really is. So I like the
fact that this Army Navy game is a is a
stand alone game on this this final day. Um, but
it is a reminder that the season has come to

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an end now the bowl games are coming up. Is
this a crazy question? Why is there an Army? There's
a Navy, Yes, there's an Air Force academy. Yes. Why
the Marines don't have a team, You mean, why don't
they have an academy ademy? You know, but aren't the Marines? Uh?
An option? I'm like, I'm really, I'm at a my

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league in talking about this. Well, maybe somebody can actually
tell us out there, Uh, follow us on Twitter. You can.
You can follow me on Twitter at Cannon Hartman. Canon
Hartman your handle on Twitter. I'm not on Twitter. I'm
just trying it. Thank you very nice. I like that.
But if you could tell us why, um but anyway,
I that I don't know the answer to. But when

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we get to the Army Navy game, it's a reminder
that this is it. This is the end of the
regular season. And the problem we college football is it's
over before it begins. Like we're teach, we're just sitting here,
we're getting the season started. Now we're at the end.
If you were to say what's the biggest storyline so
far in college football, it has to be L. S

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U and Joe Burrow. I mean, this was a L.
S U team that has always seems to be on
the periphery. A lot of people question, you hire Ed Orgeron,
who was a failure at Old Miss when he was
the head coach there. He got some you know rep
at time at USC, but they passed on him in
favor of Clay Hilton. Well, actually he was at the

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time for Sarkisian to be the head coach. There. A
lot of reports were they just didn't like the way
he sounded when he spoke of that gravelly voice of his.
That you're really close to this L s U program.
And here they sit number one in the country. They
have a chance to win a national championship there first
since the BCS championship they won with Nick Saban, a

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split championship back in two thousand and three. How did
it happen? What happened at L s U. They're sitting
atop the college football world right now. They number one. Obviously,
the players got to play well. Joe Burrow improved probably
more than anybody could have imagined. And then they bring

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in Joe Brady and he brings a sophisticated passing offense. Uh.
L s U has always had great talent, never really
had a quarterback that could get that great talent the ball,
and Joe Burrow has been that guy. Uh It's just
everything is clicked. It's almost scary how how good they are.

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I'm I really want to see them match up versus
a team that can really match up with him. Put
him in a close game and see how it turns.
Out because they haven't even played a real tight game
where you just don't know which way it's gonna go.
Because they've been so good offensively, well, they should handle Oklahoma.

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They're a better team than Oklahoma. But then they will
get a winner of that Ohio State Clemson game. And
those are two immensely talented teams. Uh. And I'm sure
that if it's Ohio State and they at least Chase
Young on Joe Burrow, he has not seen a defensive
player like Chase Young. Else you would have to figure

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out how to try to neutralize here. Just you don't
let any good coach And obviously I learned this because
of my experience playing. They're not gonna let Chase Young
beat him. He's our best player. Defensively, he will be
to your heisman. Updates the last few weeks, where where
was he? He was on the milk carton. He had

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zero tackles in the game against Michigan and I did
have some tackles against Wisconsin. Tackles. I don't mean you
can have all the tackles you want. The kids. You
put him on the milk carton. No sacks, no pressures.
That's what they're gonna do is they're gonna make If
they lose that game, it will not be because of
Chase Young and so what I'm what interests me more

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so than anything, and it's obviously because of the position
I play is Ohio State plays a lot of man
to man. You cannot play man to man and beat
LSU the way those receivers in Borrow had this connection.
You can't do it. And if Ohio States able to,
then those corners are special at Ohio State. I just
don't see any team being able to play man to

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man against l s U and stay afloat. It will
literally be a shootout point for point because you're you're
not gonna stop those guys. So let's talk about the
wide receivers. Because again, when you have a guy like
Joe Burrow, who really we have no suspense. We we
know that he is going to win the Heisman Trophy

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later on today, only the second LSU player ever to
win it. The first was sixty years ago. The great
Billy Cannon just recently passed away, by the way, So
it's gonna be a big day of celebration for l
s U. But the other college football awards came out
and L s U receiver Jamaar Chase won the Bullet
nic Coough Award. Is the top wide receiver in the
country now again because Joe Burrows is taking all the

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oxygen out of the room, and again rightfully so, because
he I think he's been the most outstanding player in
the country this year, the biggest difference maker, the reason
L s U is number one. Tell me about Chase,
I mean, is is this Is this a super talent?
Is he a beneficiary of the new offensive scheme? I mean,
there's a lot of factors that lead to a wide

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receiver being voted the best in the country. Is he
the best wide receiver talent in the country. I don't
know if I would say that. Uh, the best receiver
I've seen just from a and we're just talking to
physical stamp in college football is Jerry Judy. And and
as just physically, the way he moves, the way he decelerates,

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which I think is the most important component of receiver
can have. His ability to create separation is Jerry Judy.
But Jamar's everybody on L s U is a product
of the new system being implemented. But I don't care
what system you implement if you don't have the guys
that can execute it. And so although they are a

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product of that, they fit into whatever Brady wants them
to do perfectly. Like Jamaar Chase was a number two
receiver in the country coming out of high school. He
can play the number one receiver in the country coming
out of high school his same year as Tervis Marshall,
who was also on that team. And so you get
the number one and two receivers in the country coming

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out of high school and they both go to L.
S Sho. Don't have the top two cornerbacks in the country.
Um as a christianas Fulton will probably be a first
round pick. Stingley is a true freshman. He has two
more years, and so across the board defensively, they probably
have six first round picks right now, not saying this year,

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but just playing on that defense, and I'll probably say
four to five off also on offensive side of the ball.
But it doesn't matter what you have. You got to
go out there and play. And I believe L. Shoe
was the best team out there from what I've seen,
but you have to go out there and play. They
don't have the depth up front on both sides of
the ball that Clemson has, or for that matter, Ohio State.

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And so it is gonna be interesting. It's just funny
how everybody is hy. They've had almost a Cinderella season.
Burrow is pretty much one every award. He's gonna win
the Hiesman later today, Chase wins the Bulitic, cough Delpit
wins the jump Dorp Award. They're sweeping everything with with

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the exception of the guys up front, and so it's
gonna be interesting. Let me ask you this, because your
oldest daughter has been there for a couple of years,
so you've been around this campus for a couple of years.
How much different is the atmosphere in Baton Rouge now
than was a couple of years ago. Honestly, I think
it's the same same. See, this is what I was
gonna get, right. I believe it's the same, you know,

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be at least being around or Ron. Only difference I
think this year was I've seen John Robinson. I didn't
see him last year, but I saw him a lot
this year. Uh. But it's the same. And the coaches, no,
because they've they've coached a long time. Um, we're gonna
act the same in victory and defeat. By the way,
you mentioned John Robinson. I don't think a lot of

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people they're like, you mean that John Robinson y s C.
John Robinson SC College Football Hall of Famer John Robinson.
Coach Orn brought him in. What what what? What is
his old with this? Uh, I'm not I'm not sure
when I was up to an advisor talk to him. Yeah,
he's an advisor. He said he watches film and I'm like, really,
he was like, yeah, I forget it. So if I'm

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not jotting it down and somebody's not with me, I
forget it, you know, a lot quicker than I used to.
But yeah, he's a sounding board for for coach O
to just kind of bounce ideas off of. I love
that kind of stuff. Yeah, I love that kind of stuff.
All Right, we're in the guy, go Fox Sports Radio studios.
We're gonna have Alex Marvez on the other side. We're
gonna kick off some of our NFL coverage. But right now,

(20:31):
let's find out what's a trending. Look, who's snuck in
the building. And I mean see you come in? You didn't, no, dude,
And I didn't see you come in. I was like,
I saw Ralph leave, I'm like, where's gas Con? Oh?
There it is, I'm there. You know, the the one
positive spin I could place on the traffic that is
during l a Christmas holiday season. Yeah, what was your

(20:54):
You can listen to some decent podcasts and even watch
some decent stuff while you're stuck on the road. I
had a chance to watch that ESPN documentary with Belichick
and Saving last night. It was awesome. Yeah. I enjoyed
the one that ESPN did, I think it was last
year two years ago, called we don't advise the drivers
to do that. I wasn't driving. I wasn't driving. The
traffic is so bad though, you really can do it. Well, no, no, no,

(21:17):
you see Gascon people. Gascon has a driver. Yeah, he
chauffeurd everywhere he goes, so he can do this kind
of Iowa Sam lost a couple of bets and so yeah, yeah,
I don't have you guys watched that yet with Saving
in Belichick. I only saw a little bit of it,
but I definitely want to see. Here's the thing about Belichick.

(21:37):
You know you saw when they did the special couple
of years ago with him and Parcels two bills, which
was really uncomfortable. It's like ourselves is such a you know,
in Belichick wanted to sort of give him his due,
but he parcels like dismissive a Belichick. I just appreciate
the fact that Belichick, he loves the history of the sport.
He's into the he's into all that stuff. So I've

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always appreciated that. It's just crazy because them him and
and Nick Saban, obviously they're cut from the same cloth,
and they eventually came together. I had no idea Nick
Saban started his career out at Kent State and played there,
and then then she came back to coach. So I
love watching those old Cleveland Browns from the nineties when
Saban was you know, Belichick's defensive coordinating. He wore glasses

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in those days. Yeah, it could have been right, Yeah,
you never know. Unbelievable, guys. Let's start things off since
we're there in the National Football A couple of items
to report. Uh safety for the Panthers Eric Greed He's
listed's questionable for Small's game against Seattle. He's got the flu.
Panthers left tackle Rigg Little He's been ruled out because
of a bad ankle. Meanwhile in Philadelphia and Nelson, Agalore,

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he's been ruled out Week fifteen against the Washington Redskins
because of an injured knee. College basketball today got a
good one number ten Oregon is that number five Michigan.
Richard has it. Dribbles under the basket, give us out
to Mathis fakes the three, now fires a three good
to nine Oregon. Mathis all over at three point line,
hitting him everywhere. Man at this right now, it's got

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fifteen points five and nine from downtown Oregon, leading right
now to forty six and ten minutes to play in regulation.
Number one Louisville having no problems with the Eastern Kentucky
seventy four, number sixteen Michigan State by two at Oakland
and Butler fifty nine over Southern New Fellows. Back to you, guys,
I'm Mr Gascon. Thank you very much. Once again, we

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(23:43):
world of wrestling. He is Alex Marvez. Alex, how are
you today? I am doing just dandy, A little weird
without plethora of college football, right, we got some you know,
FPS playoffs going on. I know the the Herd is
playing of North Dakota State by some We got Army Navy,
but I miss my college football. To be quite honest
with you, well, we are in agreement with you, although

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we'll enjoy this Army Navy game is gonna kick off shortly,
but alright, a huge week in the NFL. I want
to I wanna, I wanna zoom in on the game
between the Texans and the Titans. I mean, we we
can talk all day about Lamar Jackson. He's a runaway
m v P. But has he been more valuable to
a team than Ryan Tannehill has been for the Titans.

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I mean, you talk about turning a season around, and
he leads the NFL in passing efficiency? So is this
for real? I mean, are the Titans gonna ride the
way franchise tag Tannehill is what we're seeing? Actually, happening,
and if they win tomorrow against the Texans to you know,

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get into first place in that division. What are we
looking at right now with the Titans and Ryan Tannehill. Well,
I'll be honest, I think we still gotta wait and see.
And I'm with you. Listen on the value of Ryan Tannehill.
Don't get me wrong. You talk about a Titans team
that's one forced game six and one since made the
switch was made from Marcus Mariota to Ryan tanney Hill
in week seven. Okay, They're averaging fifteen point one more

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points per game, They're averaging almost seventy more passing yards
per game. Their run offense has improved, and the big
thing to Ryan tanny Hill not afraid to take shots
down field. You look at A. J. Brown, the second
round pick out of All Miss. This guy is absolutely
tearing it up. It also makes you wonder, how does
All Miss, which has DK metcalf A, J. Brown, and
Dawson Knox on offense, not be in the mix in

(25:30):
the SEC West in But I digress. I digress. The
one thing that Ryan tanney Hills doing and this and
give credits Arthur Smith, the offensive coordinator for this. The
fact that they're playing off of Derrick Henry and the
King is on fire, right, I mean four straight games
with at least a hundred rushing yards and one rushing touchdown.
The only other running back in Tennessee Titans houston Oiler's

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history who's ever done that is Earl Campbell back in
seventy nine. So we're talking quite a number of years,
forty years in fact, and someone else has done that
in the Titans uniform. So these guys play off each other.
The other thing about the Titans too great second half team.
That's where Derrick Henry really feeds. You know, they just stay,
wear down a defense and then you know, Ryan Tannehill
makes a big play. They've been great and all. This

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is awesome that I'm talking about here, right, But you
know what, even if they beat the Houston Texans tomorrow,
I'm not so sure about this Tennessee team. And let
me explain to you why the Titans record, they would
lose a tiebreaker if Houston wins in week seventeen and
is able to be Tampa Bay on Saturday Football next week.
So just think about it like that. I mean Houston
because of the fact that they did not split against Jacksonville.

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They swept the Jags, they will end up potential with
a better division record, win that tiebreaker if they can
split with the Titans. So while this is a big
game for Tennessee, remember they play at New Orleans in
Week sixteen and then at Houston end the season. So
the big question for the Titans a little bit too little,
too late for the Tennessee Titans or can they sneak
in and sweep the Texans. They may have to do
just that to get to where they want to be,

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and that's the postseason. So let's stay with Let's stay
with Tennessee really quick. Derrick Henry is averaging six yards
of carry since Tanny Hill is taken over. Yep. The
biggest thing is both of these guys are free agents
at the end of the season. What do you do?
What do you Well, here's what you do. You hope
that the NFL doesn't reach a labor agreement with the

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NFL Players Association. You know why that is t j
because next year there is a clause that allows a
team to use both a franchise and transition tag, the
proverbial poison pill type thing in the collective bargaining agreement.
So what this would potentially mean is, let's say you
put you know, it depends where you consider more valuable.
Right if you think that the team is going after

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Ryan Tannehill and would sign him to a monster offer sheet, well,
you know, okay, maybe you make him the franchise player.
But I would think that they could potentially make Ryan
Tannehill a transition player because I'm not sure that every
NFL team is convinced that he's the answer at quarterback
and would sign him to a mega deal. You franchise
tag Derrick Henry and at the same time you're trying
to work out a long term deal with both, but
you secure Derrick Henry for another season. I mean, look,

(27:57):
this is a good problem to have for the Tennessee type. Right.
You've got both guys in the building right now. I
think they want to be there. Mike were Abel does
a great job as a head coach. He's a player's
coach obviously as a former player himself. I think they
just got to work out the finances. But I think
for the Titans this is a great thing. And Ryan Tannehill,
to me, he's not gonna win the MVP Award. To you, know,
let's already send that to Lamar Jackson care of M
and T Bank Stadium. But I think the comeback player

(28:19):
of the year it's gotta be Ryan tanne Hill because
he's been fantastic. All right, let's talk about the Rams
Cowboys games. So the Rams seem to have righted the ship.
Give Sean McVeigh credit. They look fabulous against Seattle. They
need some help. They need your Chargers, Alex to somehow
get a victory against the Vikings. But this Cowboy team
is it all? I mean, have they just quit on

(28:40):
the season? They're still obviously tied for first in the
NFC East, but the Eagles seemingly have a walkover schedule
the rest of the year, and they will host the
Cowboys next week. Cowboys are underdogs going into this game
at home against the Rams. Have they given up on
the season or what should we expect from the Cowboys tomorrow?
I just don't think they're very good. And that's the

(29:01):
thing I think. Look, there's so many different factors when
it comes to the way that Dallas Cowboys are playing
right now. You know, from what I've been told, the
offensive line, they're tired, they're beat up, guys have been
battling injuries. Travis Frederick, it's been a long season for
him coming off of the O Barret syndrome. You know,
obviously the Connor Connor Williams, the left guard, goes on
injured reserve. They're playing with Xaviers to a Philo who

(29:21):
has his limitations as a solid backup and not the
same player that Connor Williams was becoming. But you look
at what happened to this offense and it has become
so past happy. They've lost their way when it comes
to to you know, running with Zeke Elliott, and that's
where this offense had the most success. But I can't
even really blame the offense. I'm gonna point my finger
at defense and special teams. Quite frankly, it's a defense

(29:42):
that doesn't force turnovers. You know, they okay in the
red zone and all that, but they just don't give
They don't make big plays to help put the offense
in a good position. And obviously the field goal kicking
situations such a mess that they cut Red mar this
week and they signed Kai for Bath and they're hoping
he's the answer for this team. Look, I don't blame
the makers are making Rams a favorite because this game
is much more important to them because here's why Dallas

(30:04):
can lose and still win this division. It's not like
they're gonna get eliminated. Everything comes down to Week sixteen
in Philadelphia against what's left of the Philadelphia Eagles. So,
you know, I think the nightmare scenario for the Cowboys
though through all this and obviously the Jason Garrett situation
taking a toll. But if they win the division, do
they really win in terms of if they're gonna move
on from Jason Garrett, you still gotta have a playoff

(30:24):
game for another week. You know, they're gonna be a
lot of head coaches and coaching candidates and assistant coaches
and we have jobs by the time that Jason Garrett
has cleaned out his desks. So for the Cowboys, if
you're a fan, I hate to say it, but if
you don't like Jason Garrett and you want this team
to move on, you're probably hoping that they lose out
and then move on if you don't think this team
can get to where they want to be in twenty
nine season. Let's talk a little bit about the wow,

(30:48):
the mess that is new England right now? All right?
What let me ask you this, So the Patriots are
not even denying the fact that, for whatever reason, film
went on with the Bengals and it's become this whole,
you know, laughing thing about you know, really you have
to fill in the Bengals. But this is like repeat
offense after repeat offense. Are the Patriots basically saying, what

(31:12):
are you gonna do? You're gonna find us a million dollars?
Oh wow, take away a draft choice like any of
that's going to be a deterrent. Is the NFL serious
about these rules that they seemingly have in place where
one team tries to gain an advantage of another team,
or they're just gonna let this go on for perpetuity,
Because to me, that's what the Patriots are saying. What

(31:34):
are you gonna do to us? Give us the death penalty?
I mean, what is there to stop any NFL team
like the Patriots or any other team from finding a
ways to bend the rules and gain a competitive advantage?
Might have an answer for that, well, Sean pa remember
he was suspended for an entire year. The perfect answer.

(31:57):
So what if they are found guilty of this read
heat offenders. What are they gonna do? See, that's the
whole thing, and we don't you know, look, I hate
to say that, not give you a firm answer on
what they're gonna do. First, I think you have to investigate, Okay,
how many video crews have been around the NFL with
the Patriots, and you go back to the outside the
lines reporting on all that, on this from ten years ago,
with the original spy Gate scandal and what we're Patriots

(32:20):
employees that were caught told to do. They were told
to say, oh, well, we're filming the kickers, or we're
filming for a TV series. Sounds familiar, right, because the
same thing another series about the New England Patriots, showing
people doing their jobs at work and filming a sideline
for eight minutes. And you've had people like Jeff Schwartz
and Matt Chatham who have made statements publicly former players
that said, hey, you know what, you don't get anything

(32:41):
out of filming a sideline. This is just it was
either an innocent mistake or just not an egregious thing.
But then you got Brady Quinn coming out and saying, no,
it isn't egregious thing, because you still have some signals
that are used. You still have personnel formation groupings that
are signaled in from the sidelines sometimes, and if you
can get knowledge of that and get your personnel on
the field quicker because you're picking up a signal right away,
that's gonna help your team. So I think they're still

(33:02):
going to investigate it. But you're right. You know. Listen,
some people I talked to around the league that work
for teams, they are tired of this from the Patriots,
and they're gonna go to Roger Goodell and they're gonna
tell them that we'll see if that. You know, again,
what's the ultimate endgame here when it comes to the Pats.
I don't think they're Bill Blatary is gonna get suspended,
But I hope they do a better job investigating this
than they did spy game. All right, are you gonna
be there for the Gators Big Bowl game? I can't

(33:24):
make it to South Florida. I can't. I'm gonna be
watching on TV. I'll be cheering vicariously. I know. I
say that I have some some professional wrestling business to
take care of during the week in Jacksonville, but I
know I'm gonna be looking proudly upon my club as
they play the Virginia Cavaliers in the Orange Bowl, which
is a nice, nice little consolation price. You know, going
down to South Florida helped the recruiting base. My Gator's
strong season. Very very proud of what they're able to accomplish.

(33:47):
No knock on Virginia, but that's a walkover. I mean,
come on, I'm in the cabin. It depends on me.
That's a three touchdown victory for you guys. That's gonna
be the whole thing. That's the whole thing too. Now
we gotta watch where Phelippe Franks goes answering from the
University of Florida and uh where he ends up, because
he's a pretty darn good quarterback and he's gonna help somebody.
But we got Kyle Trast will be back in. It
looks like Banner times now for the Florida Gators. Hopefully

(34:10):
the Cowboys don't come calling and try to get away
Dan Mullen from the Gator flock. That would be very unfortunate. Alex.
We always appreciate your time. Thanks so much, Thank you, gentlemen.
Alex Marvez Series x M NFL Insider, Fox Sports NFL Insider.
He is the voice of wrestling. All right, we're in
the guy. Go Fox Sports Radio studios. Later on today,

(34:30):
they're gonna award the Heisman Trophy. Why does the Heisman
Trophy stand out? There's a lot of reasons, but we
will give you the one main reason why the Heisman
Trophy stands a top all the other awards in American sports.

(34:50):
Coming up next, Steve Harman and at t J Houshman Zada,
t J. You got all your shopping done? Are you beginning? Nothing? Zero? Zero? Now?
Do you do everything online? I haven't done anything. I'm
I'm a last minute person. I literally will Probably you've

(35:11):
got a complicated list. I mean you've got your older daughters,
you've got young kids. I mean you're you're all over
the map. I mean you gotta go multiple places. Right,
My wife will pretty much shop for the kids. I
just have to shop for her. Well, they see, yeah, exactly, Yeah,
that that's the hard part there. Uh, Tonight they're going

(35:32):
to award the Heisman Trophy. There's there's very little suspension.
The only question is what's the margin of victory gonna be?
Joe Burrow, Lsu quarterback is gonna win this year's Heisman Trophy.
You know, there are many awards handed out, a lot
of awards, and I've always said this, the two most

(35:53):
identifiable awards period I'm not just talking sports, are the
Oscar and the Heisman Trophy. And the reason is is
because they are good looking trophies. The thing about an
Oscar is you hold it in one hand right there.

(36:13):
You can see that they get that Oscar and you.
It's so easily identifiable. But what makes the Heisman? I
mean it's it's nebulous. I mean it's it's it's a
matter of opinion. How how do you judge the most
outstanding by the way, it's not the best player, it's
the most outstanding player, exemplifies care whatever it might be.
But the actual trophy, first of all, I like the

(36:36):
fact this is a big trophy t J. With the
wood base that it has, it weighs forty five pounds.
It is a big trophy. And because when guys are
holding the Heisman, you gotta really grip it, sort of
grab around the legs of the player. I mean, the
Heisman post what football player hasn't at one point of

(36:57):
their careers sort of done the old Heisman post. It's
such an identifiable trophy, so you can talk about the
merits doesn't really represent who the best player is, whatever
it is, but you can't deny the fact it is
just a very cool looking trophy. I mean, it's nice looking. Now,
I didn't know it was forty five pounds. That's pretty

(37:19):
damn heavy heavy um for the most party an he
got anybody that grows up watching football, you've done the
Heisman post just because it's nobody can do it. Uh.
I don't know if it's too many people get an oscar,
too many people win an oscar, So I'm gonna throw
the Heisman above that. You know, if you're if you're

(37:40):
a movie buff and you really enjoy movies like I
guess that's the big thing. I'm not. But you watched
Awards show. Everybody gets an oscar for the most part
of you get it for this, you get it for that.
Now the most important one is what best actor and
pure that kind of stuff like that. Well they remember this.
They only make two Heisman's every year. One goes to

(38:02):
the player and one goes to the school. And so
there are many out there. I've never thought about it.
How many Heisman trophies have you actually seen in person?
You've never actually seen a Heisman trophy. I gotta take
you down. You know, the USC they got six in
the in the lobby there. I mean when you see, ah,

(38:23):
you have six in the lobby. Yeah, they still have
Reggie Bushes there. They gave it back. That's why. That's
why they suck. But they have O Jay's. By the way,
did you read the story about O J's two Highway movies?
They have, but they don't have Reggie Bush. Oh no, no,
I'll tell you what got like I got on the

(38:43):
other side. I'm gonna share a little story with you
about O J's Heisman. It's it's unbelievable. The two Heisman's
for o J. The one he was given and won,
the school got the one from the school was stolen
and then found twenty years later. Oh, there's all kinds
of easy things going on, but these Yeah, I'm gonna
with you. You know, I'm big Heisman trophy guy. All right,

(39:04):
we're in the guy. Go Fox Sports radios. Do it is?
Plus a big big day in the NFL. We got
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end of this Oregon Michigan game. Oregon coming to number ten,
Michigan at number five. A shot at the buzzer did
not get off in time, so they're gonna go to
overtime in this game. Uh, just an absolute ice three,
but clearly was after the buzzers, so that game is

(39:48):
gonna go to overtime. Look good for a second game
winner at the buzzer, but it was, uh, no question,
it was after after the buzzer sounded, So that game
will go to overtime. All right, here we are on
this big Saturday. We only have one college football game
that's gonna kick off an hour from now. That will
be Army, and they've got some college hoops going on.
Huge day in the NFL tomorrow, but also a big

(40:12):
story today later on it's going to be the awarding
of the the Heisman Trophy. We were just talking about.
O J and you seem to be shocked when you
see the O. J. Simpson trophy on full display at
USC and they had to return the Reggie Bush Heisman trophy. Uh,
here was a quick story for you, t J. Was
it was a big story about this. First of all

(40:34):
the two heismans, the one O J got one, the
school got two different stories. After the murders, the double murders,
and O J lost his civil suit, he had a
liquid date and he am selling his heisman trophy. I
think there are now seven or eight Heisman trophies that
have been sold for a lot of money, uh and
are actually privately held by other people. But the one

(40:56):
that USC had was stolen and disappeared for more than
twenty years, and a guy claiming that he actually bought
the trophy from somebody else that he didn't steal as
somebody else did, for like six hundred bucks. He had
it all, put it away, and after years and years
and years, I think it was in or fifty, he

(41:16):
brought it back to the university sort of in pieces,
like the wooden base was separate, the little plaque thing
and everything else. So what happened was after it was stolen,
the heisman people gave USC a replacement trophy, but there
still seems to be the trophy they have on right
now along with the other trophies. We're not sure if

(41:37):
that was the original one that was cleaned up and
put back together or whether it's still the replacement one.
So there's these are the mysteries of it. Probably nobody
really cares. I know, who would know the difference, right,
But everyone says they look at this, one doesn't look
quite the same as some of the other Heisman's on

(42:00):
his conspiracy theorists man, And it doesn't matter if it
looks the same. It's a great recruiting to still the
Heisman trophy. And when kids go and see that, it's wow,
what o J should be removing? I mean, you kill
two people. I don't care if you were found you
you murder two people. Bro, Yeah, Like, why is this
Heisman trophy still in there? That's not cool? How do

(42:22):
you feel about And I'm only get sidetrack with o
J here, But you know, the NFL is picking its
one d Greatest Players are All Time team. O J
was included on that list. O J is still in
the College Football Fall Hall of Fame. He's in the
Pro Football Hall of Fame. See it, it's a little
different for me and you. Because I'm old enough to
remember O. J. Simpson the football player. I can separate

(42:45):
the two. I can separate O J. The football player
and the O J. Post double murder. Can you do
that or to me? No? No, no, Like you can't
take what somebody has done. And we're talking in life
and athletically, you can't take that away. And he might
be a horrible person in life, but he was a

(43:07):
hell of a football player on the field, and so
you you can't just because you don't like him personally
and what he did, try to take away his accomplishments
and what he did athletically. He was a hell of
a football player at SC obviously, and he was a
hell of a football player in the NFL playing for
the Buffalo Bills, and that will forever be the case.

(43:29):
But what he did in his life, it's no, it's inexcusable.
But what he did on that football field, you can't.
You can't take that away from him. But you do
find a certain level of hypocrisy and o J. O J.
Simpsons Heisman Trophy is proudly on display at USC and
Reggie Bush doesn't exist in UM. I'm a fan of

(43:56):
all sports, mainly football, basketball, and boxing. Those are my
sports that I really enjoy watching. Peter Warwick and Reggie
Bush are the two best college football players that I've
ever seen with my eyes. Those two a legend at
Florida State. Yes, it might have won the Heisman had

(44:18):
he not had that suspension because he took close from
Macy's like another dumb rule that the cricket in c
A A implements. He should have been a Heisman trophy.
But Peter Wark and Reggie Bush are the two best
college football players that I've ever seen. So for Reggie
Bush's Heisman trophy not to be in USC, it's it's absurd,

(44:41):
Like really, oh there, it's it's unbelievable. And you know
me in the Heisman because he can He's not allowed
or his stepdad wasn't allowed to capitalize on himself, which
I thought that's what the world was built on. The
rules are chained, Jean, Like he said, now what his

(45:02):
stepfather did will be completely legal once that change really
takes place. Now, will he be accepted back into the
USC family? What open arms? Come on? Reggie? Let us
embrace you once again. Well, not only in the USC family,
but the Heisman family. I've said this before, and I
was telling you during the break. I have interviewed a
number of Heisman winners, the predated Reggie Bush. And I've

(45:25):
asked Barry Sanders, I've asked Eddie George. I asked a
lot of these Heisman winners. You know why they say
what you're about to say, because they get what we're
talking about. Well they What they all say, without hesitation,
is is that in our eyes, he will always be
one of us. He's a Heisman winner. I even kidded
Barry Sanders, I go, if he came to the Heisman House,

(45:46):
the fictional Heisman House, and he came knocking at the door,
would you let him in? And he laughed, he goes,
of course, he's one of us. He earned award. He
wanted to runaway. But if you, if you, if you
open up a Heisman annual that they put out their
two thousand and five never existed. Man after Reggie Bush
left USC, you know how many recruits they got because

(46:07):
of Reggie Bush. But you want to disassociate yourself from
the man Reggie Bush and a player, Remember this like
he was gonna return for FS one and they had
to stay to get special permission, almost like they had
to have a police escort, so he couldn't he could
only be in a certain spot. I mean, are you
kidding me? It's outrageous. I mean, it's just absolutely outrageous.

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And the people that make their rules, that make these rules,
did they understand where their salaries come from off of
the backs of guys like Reggie Bush. But you make
rules that Reggie Bush can't capitalize on himself, but you
can capitalize and earn money off Reggie Bush, you know,
getting getting staying with this Heisman for a second. When
Nick Staman came to Alabama, so Alabama had been down

(46:54):
for several years, and you know they wanted to get
back to the glory of the Bear Bryant years. Even
Jeans All Means won a national championship at two. And
the one thing that Nick Saban realized right off the
bat is we never had a Heisman Trophy winner. Alabama
only had one guy finished his highest third despite all
the legendary Alabama players. So he spotlighted mark Ingram got

(47:17):
a Heisman trophy. Remember those last couple of games are
Derrick Henry that E M A where he was canniball
forty times a game to win another Heisman. Nick Saban's
a smart guy because he knows. Look, I got a
couple of Heismans in my lobby, so I'm showing the
recruits round. They're drawn to this. Everybody is drawn to
that freaking trophy. They look they look like you could

(47:39):
have all the trophies in the world national championship trophies.
I want to see a Heisman. I want to see
that Heisman trophy. It is an amazing recruiting tool. By
the way, when Johnny Manziel won the Heisman, he wasn't
A and M's first winner. First winner was way back
in nifty seven, John David Crowe. But they estimate that
that Heisman trophy was worth about thirty five million dollars

(48:03):
to that university, not just because it brings in football recruits.
It brings students in. Suddenly A and M gets the
spotlight because of Johnny Manziel. Their number of applicants to
the university like doubled overnight. This is the power of
this trophy. It's crazy and once again they benefit zero

(48:25):
from it. Yes, players and hopefully things will change. If
you think about it, your fellow Bruin and O'Bannon was
onto something. Yes, he was a long time ago and
he kept getting shot down. Now it looks like it's
a it's gonna happen. Oh it's long du obviously, but

(48:45):
but it's one of those things, the Heisman Trophy, and
it's what you said, the way it looks, and I
did not know. Again it was forty five pounds, So
it's not only the way it looks, but you know,
you want to hold it. It's a big it's a
football and it and it lets you know, like be
of the size and a way it looks like this
is important. And so yeah, it might be the best trophy.

(49:08):
I think it's the best trophy around when you look
at Trump's the Oscars, because there's a lot of people,
I mean, there's people that are given Oscars that they
don't even show on a telecast. There you go. But
it's a very select few people that have won that
Highsman trophy. And even guys that have gone on to

(49:28):
legendary status in the NFL will always tell Roger Staubach,
you know, the great Dallas Cowboy quarterback to this day,
he still says when when people come to his home,
the only thing they want to see is his heisman trophy.
Where's the heisman? Where's the heisman? Where's the heisman? Um?
So it is a big day today, it is. Uh. Again,
you can argue, did the right guy win the Heisman trol?

(49:51):
It's not even about that. It's the actual power of
the trophy itself. Uh. It is unmatched in American sports,
I think in just about every endeavor. I early congratulations
to Joe Burrow because he will win it. Early congratulations.
So so when the university gets one, now your your
second daughter is gonna be you, you will see it.

(50:12):
You're I'm not. I'm not one of those guys where
like I want to see it. I don't really care,
but don't yet at least curious. I'm telling you, once
you've seen a heisman, you to well, I don't know.
I mean, is is there anything that you saw in anything?
I'm not just talking Trump like you saw in person,

(50:33):
like for the first time, like wow, even if you
had seen pictures of it forever. No, I'm not. I'm
really not that. I'm not a materialistic type of person,
all right, Things like that don't really wow me. It
doesn't matter what it is really like nothing you've ever seen,
like if you go to New York and you see
the Empire Stage Statute of Liberty, seeing nothing like wow. Interesting, Yeah,

(50:55):
very weird, very weird. It is all right. We're in
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many NFL games. We've gotta get to an unbelievable Sunday
Week fifty NFL which games stand out? We're gonna kick
it off coming up next Steve Harbin and t. J.
Houshman Zada on this Saturday as we uh, we wrap

(51:18):
up the regular season in college football today the Army
Navy game will kick off in about forty minutes, and
then of course later on tonight, the Heisman Trophy will
be awarded in New York City Week fifteen of the NFL,
And of course, the Ravens demolished the Jets as Lamar
Jackson pretty much putting a wrap on that m v
P award deservely so. But we got a lot of

(51:40):
NFL stories I want to get to here. T G.
Your former team, the Bengals, is are the one in
twelve and when this story came out that the Patriots
were spying on the Bengals. Uh. It became the butt
of jokes like, really, so they have to spy on
the Bengals, Um, but I you know, look, I work
with rich Orn Burger, former Patriot player. The one thing

(52:02):
about Belichick, and one of the reasons the Patriots stay
on top, whether the story is true or not, you know,
and to what degree their spine is, is that they
never take an opponent lightly. Another one of the one
of the ways to stay on top for twenty years
is that you don't change the process of how you
get ready for an opponent. Whether you're taking on an

(52:23):
undefeated team or a winless team, the process never changes
any advantage that we can get. Anything that we feel
can give us an advantage against the opponent, we're gonna
find a way to get that advantage. So I'm not
quite sure how we handle this Patriots situation. Obviously, they're
a repeat offender, whether it was the deflate gate, the

(52:45):
spy gate, Spygate two. It seems like the Patriots almost
thrown in the face of the NFL that we're not
going to change anything we're gonna do because there's nothing
you can do to us. That's gonna get us off track.
You're gonna find us a million dollars. Please, you're gonna
take away a fourth round draft plick. Please. None of
that matters to us. UH. In college football, though, if

(53:08):
you're a repeat offender, they have the death penalty. Would
say slammed on in s m U. Now that would
be interesting if they did that. You mentioned Sean Payton
got UH suspended for an entire year. Do you think
the NFL would do that to Bill Belichick if they
actually find out that he and their investigation knew about
the spy gate two? Should he be suspended for an

(53:30):
entire year? He should? He should be suspended regardless an
entire year if number one number one, nobody will say
Bill Belichick told him to do it. Let's go back,
let's go to deflate Gate. We're the guys that were
deflating the ball. They no longer work for the Patriots.
I wonder why you're gonna blame those guys, but you

(53:54):
know they blamed him, and they gave him a nice
quote unquote severage package to go bye by. We we
know that. So now nobody's gonna say anything we're gonna
give you the severne package. You're gonna keep your mouth shut.
Nobody is going to say, oh yeah, Bill told us
to do this. When you're filming for a series, you

(54:14):
don't film a sideline for seven to eight minutes in
the first quarter. You just don't do it. You might
get thirty seconds here, thirty seconds there, seven to eight
straight minutes. You're cheating. You can say whatever you want
to say. It's advanced advanced scouting people, because a lot
of people are gonna say, all right, well, I mean,

(54:35):
what what can they learn filming seven or eight minutes
of a sideline. Okay, let's take I'm gonna take people
down a walk real quick. Just follow me. So the
Indianapolis Coats, remember when they had Paid Manning, Reggie Wayne,
Marvin Harris, and Edrian James. What did they do offensively?
They went no huddle. Well they went no huddle because

(54:58):
they were still in every bodies defensive signs. You had
to signal in your signs. So now you signal in
whatever it is fire zone from this side. There, the
play caller is telling Peyton Manning the defense in the headset.
He knows the defense. We're gonna change our protection. We're
gonna pick this up and we're going to gash you

(55:20):
with this play because we have this protection picked up,
or we have this blitz picked up with the protection
and we've called because we know what's coming. Well, we
had a guy from the Coats come to the Bengals.
He told us this, So what do we start doing.
We started going no huddle because everybody was doing it.
The Steelers started. Everybody started doing it because they were

(55:42):
still in signals. The NFL knew this was going on.
So what did the NFL do. They gave the middle
linebacker the earpiece, so now you can call the defense in.
They knew what was going on. They were trying to
curb it a little bit. So now we'll give the
defensive player a head at So now this, But what

(56:02):
happened was guys weren't getting the signals from the linebacker.
So the signals were still coming from the sideline because
they had to because guys couldn't get it quick enough. Offenses,
when Chip Kelly came in there moving so quickly, you
had to signal it in. You told the linebacker, he
told the linebackers, he told uh defensive line. Well, the

(56:23):
secondary still needed it. So the signals came. So what
I believe is going on with this uh Patriot thing,
is this bingos head coach Zach Taylor this first year.
The Patriots don't have a catalog on him, they don't
have a library on his signal. We have to get these.

(56:44):
It doesn't matter that the Bengals suck. The Patriots are
gonna probably win this game regardless. This is for future
reference if we ever play Zach Taylor again. We have
his signals and it's planning for the future. And then
you can say whatever you want to say, they're cheating.
The only way you can curb it is this suspend Belichick.

(57:05):
I don't know how many games because uh spy Gay. One.
They were fined big money. They lost a first round
draft pick. That did not stop them. They did not
stop them. The only way you can flate Gay they
had to said Brady for four games, so pay a
million dollar fine. They still won the Super Bowl. Brady
got sat for four games for something that I deemed

(57:26):
I thought that was very minor, very minor. That's the
minimum of games Belichick should get because whether he authorized
this or not, he knows what's going on. And when
you're in charge, you have to fall on a sword,
not not not some not the not the people that
deflated the ball, who lost their job. You fall on

(57:48):
the sword because you're in charge. Bill, this is you.
I want to take it a step further because even
Sean Payton, and I remember I was in New Orleans
covering the Zurich Golf Classic here for Fox Sports Radio
the year that he was suspended, and we sat down
with Sean Payton and talked about it. He still couldn't
figure it out. I mean, it was my defensive coordinator,

(58:08):
Greg Williams. But he's in charge. But he's in charge, right,
But that was a single incident. I mean this is
multiple incidents. Under the guidance of Bill Belichick. I would
expel him for life. No, I wouldn't do that, and
you are out of the league. I'm gonna tell you
why Sean Payton received the year suspension. Right at the

(58:32):
time what was going on. The concussion lawsuits had just
come to the forefront, and everybody was saying in NFL
withheld information, and so this was Sean Payton was a
health and safety issue and the NFL, look, it was
much more egregious than anything that you can do but

(58:55):
what Bill is doing is integrity of the game. And
so we talked healthy and safety, this concussion, we gotta
we gotta release, stick it to the Saints and Sean
Payton so this never happens again. Well, now what's more
important that I believe the integrity game is more important
or just as important as if as in health and safety.

(59:16):
You can't have coach go bet big money on the
game and then purposely lose the game because you're really
affecting the integrity of the game. Go back to some
of their early Super Bowl wins, the Carolina Panthers Super Bowl.
The Panthers will tell you to this day John Fox
and company, New England was doing things in that first

(59:38):
half that the only way that they could have called
some of the defense they were calling if they knew
plays ahead of time. The second half of that game
was a whole different story. Carolina redid things and suddenly
came back in that game and lose on the last
second field goal. That they will tell you there is
no way, based on anything Carolina had done during the

(59:58):
course of that season, that New England could have had
that kind of prep for what they did in the
first half. If they didn't somehow have a spy or
did some level of cheating the same thing with the
Rams during the preparation with with the Greatest Show. Yeah,
the thing is this Belichick is a great coaches is
but everything has to have an asterisk by it now
be because he pushes the envelope. And but the NFL

(01:00:24):
lets him get away with the t J and that.
And that's why that's why I say, why you can't
find him. You can't take a draft pick because you've
done these things, spell them for life. You're done, can't
I'm not gonna I'm done. I'm not willing to take
it that far. I'm not. I'm not even willing to
consider that. What else are you gonna do? This stop
has to be suspended. He has to be suspended in

(01:00:46):
whatever amount of games he's suspended for. It is what
it is. But once you take away his ability to
do something that he loves, you would hope he learns
a lesson. But I believe that's the only way you're
gonna get your point across. All right, when the guy
got Fox Sports Radio Studios, let's fign out what's trending
right now. By the way, on the other side, We're
gonna get to the latest on Antonio Brown. This guy's priceless.

(01:01:11):
Uh do you have his tweets on on notification, Steve,
since you're active on Twitter so often. Well, here here's
the thing I do I watch because he's you never
know what's gonna His latest tweet is, uh, you cannot
read that on air, Steve. You know we cannot read it,
and we can pair aphrase. How about it that way
we can. We'll do an interpretation at g rated interpretation.
Everybody got to pay this year, so we clear what

(01:01:38):
is happening out there, David, All kinds of things, guys.
College basketball had a really good one between number five
Michigan and number ten Oregon that went into overtime. Richard
handles the ball trying to get to the basket, gets
by his man and one got by Simpson with the
crafty dribble and pretty Shard will head to the line
as Oregan lead with a minute sixteen to go, have pitting.

(01:02:00):
Richard had twenty three points, will be the charge eight
or eleven of nineteen from Mount Side and Oregon squeaks
by number five Michigan on the road today seventy one
to seventy. Meanwhile, scores around college basketball sudden number one
Louis will have no problems with the Eastern Kentucky sixties
seven number sixteen. Michigan State prevailed at Oakland seventy two
to forty nine. Underway, Villanova leading Delaware twenty two to twelve,

(01:02:22):
Butler triumphant over Southern Use sixties six to forty one. Guys.
Of course college football today just the one mirror game
that you guys are talking about, Army versus Navy. Kick
out time will be in about thirty minutes from now.
Back to you guys, all right, very very good, and
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(01:02:46):
The only high part figuring out which way is easier, Steve,
if we dip into the hot tub time machine, I
do have audio of you reading Antonio brown tweets in
the past. You want to hear something, Let's hear some
of that. Yes, let's go, sorry, asked Chico. You ain't
done nothing in this league. You know you get beat
quick slice you up some humble pie. Yeah. See now,

(01:03:08):
and I'm reading that verbatim. I mean, here that one
more time. I I sort of amazed myself because you
have to read it carefully if you're now you know
what I'm not on Twitter, But from my understanding, you're
they limit the amount of character, so you you kind
of have to read between the lines, so to speak.

(01:03:29):
So you also have trying to get his point across. Uh,
let's try to transfer. Let's let's go back. This is
me reading one of his tweets in the past. Yet, sorry,
asked Chico. You ain't done nothing in this league. You know,
you get beat quick, Slice you up some humble pie.
There it is. Do you understand that I know what

(01:03:49):
he's talking about? Yeah, I didn't mean. He's just not
using commas. And you know it's all run on sentences
and you just have to be able to pause and
understand where he's going. Now the latest tweet now again
and you can help us out there is my mama,
my daddy, golden boy. Yeah, do you want to hit

(01:04:10):
my filling in the blanks there? Well, there's there's a
lot of like, you know, I'm confused. He came from
a rough upbringing from what he said about his dad,
and uh he talked about his mother's life decisions, which
I'm not sure how that factors into anything. Um. Yeah,
so doesn't seem to be a great Saturday, great start

(01:04:31):
to the weekend for Antonio Brown. The cops were at
his residence earlier and he was arguing with them. He
of course broadcasted his incident on Instagram live as one
is want to do um and a lot of vulgarity there.
Unfortunately we cannot play that audio. He had. This tweet
came out a little bit earlier today. I can read

(01:04:52):
this one. It says, my life became public. Now when
I go public, I'm wrong. So how well do you
know Antonio Brown? T J? I mean I don't. I
don't know him. Great if uh I see him, will
speak But you but you've talked to a lot of
people close to him over the years, right yeah? Yeah,

(01:05:14):
him and Chad are really good friends. He kind of
And what does Chad say about Antonio Brown? Is he is? He? Does?
He say he's misunderstood? He's a good guy? Uh? The
public because all I've ever heard is this guy is
so there's me. Guys in the league, and then there's
like Antonio Brown, like it's like it's it's like there's

(01:05:36):
there's ego, there's narcissism, and then there's that next level.
Is it that bad with Antonio Brown? I don't believe
it's ever that bad. It's more so, Uh, it's a
lot of frustration. Yeah, And that's all this is is
football has been taken away from him, and in his eyes,

(01:05:57):
it's why why can't I play? Why am I suspended
without being suspended? But we have to go back. You
do remember this after remember he sat out the Steelers
last game. Yeah, last game. He sat out the game
still in playoff contention. There's a lot more to that
than we'll ever know. Okay, but he he sat on

(01:06:19):
his team. Then, when he made it clear he wanted
out of Pittsburgh, he said, whatever team gets me, they're
gonna have to play by my rules. He made. That
was his public statement. You know this, If you're gonna
sign me, you're gonna have to play by my rules.
The Raiders roll the dice. Why not? Best receiver in
the game for what a third or fourth? Why not?

(01:06:42):
And what happened? All kinds of stuff, whether it was
the helmet or whatever it was. He was making one
excuse after another to not show up until they finally
said you're gone. Adrias rolled the dice on him. He
got one game out of him, and he so and
I see where he's coming from. I mean a lot
of things that he's doing I don't agree with. I
wouldn't do him, but I'm not him. But when you're

(01:07:06):
quote unquote suspended for basically the entire season for allegations
of something that happened years ago, and had you paid
her off, these allegations would have never come to light,
that that's kind of that that that just doesn't sit
well with me, because his whole viewpoint is I'm not

(01:07:27):
gonna let you come up off of me. And when
I say come up, the woman that is accusing him,
the accuser is trying to, because of her relationship with
Antonio Brown, better her life, and he's like, Nah, I
worked for this, You're gonna go work for yours. You're not.
You're not. I'm not gonna give you a good life
off my hard work. You're not coming up off the
back of what I've done. And because he chose to

(01:07:50):
do that, Okay, she went public, had he given her
the money, she would have never gone public. He would
be playing football. So what he's suspended in his eyes
for what? Because he hasn't even officially been suspended. He
suspended that woman, He suspended that woman met with the
NFL for ten hours. But if there has never been
an announcement by the NFL about the status of Antonio Brown,

(01:08:13):
because it's a silent suspension, we all know that. We
all know that it's a silent suspension. And well, he's
still under contract in New England. No, he's not. New
England released him because of they were told he's going
to be suspended. And this is why, and this is
why I say, Roger Goodell in the NFL, you can't

(01:08:38):
be um mercenaries when it comes to players and then
a ferry when it comes to organizations like Vontas Burfick.
He suspended for the entire year for a hit on
the football field. And you're quick to suspend players, are
quick to find players like if my socks, if I

(01:08:59):
don't have enough white on my socks showing, you get
fined because it's a rule. But I can break a
rule and record people when nothing happens. And so that's
players are looking at it like man only people that
don't think the Patriots did anything wrong guard in New
England fans and players that have played for the Patriots,
they think they're fine. By the way. During this week,

(01:09:20):
you know a story that sort of flew out of
the radar was the NFL announcing we're done with Kaepernick.
They actually the league came out with an announced and
we're done with Kaepernick. Kaepernick has nobody but himself to
blame for this. Albeit the workout was it was kind
of fishy. If you want to play once again, you
gotta play by their rules. And this is the thing

(01:09:43):
about both Kaepernick and Antonio Brown. They don't want to
fall in line. And that my question. What does Antonio
Brown not falling in line? What is he not doing
that the NFL wants him to do? What? You can't
answer at he you can't answer. The Raiders released him

(01:10:04):
based on the fact that he well, the helmet was
one thing that it was, the feat the helmet. It
was just a bunch of in subordination. I'm not defending him,
I'm just giving you but if his view points, here's
the thing, t J. If I'm an employer, any employer.
You're not gonna let him get away with that. No,
and we we all have to if you, if you
are working for someone, if someone is paying you called

(01:10:27):
that man a racial slur, if you want to call
it that. No, he did and what he has done.
I'm not defending. What I'm saying is if you're gonna
suspend him, suspend The Raiders released them for what he did.
And what did the Patriots do? They bought low like
they always do, because they knew he could help him.

(01:10:49):
They released him because of this case that they had
no idea was on the horizon and it came to light.
The NFL, in turn, gave him a silent suspension, if anything,
just suspend him. Do you think that he is due
the contract that he's signed with New England. Um, he's

(01:11:11):
going to get that contract because he played one game.
You can't really, Yes, he's going to receive Technically, he
didn't play Week one of the season, but he played
another one. You were a contract to kick in, doesn't
don't you have to play week one? He didn't play
week one when you he was on the roster. He
was on the roster. They just didn't play him. And
so you're entitled to that money. He's going to receive that.

(01:11:33):
But New England, you know, they know every rule inside
and out. There was a reason they didn't play him
that first week, right, No, no, no, No, he's gonna
get that money. But that's a drop in a bucket
we're talking. Should he get the Raider money on top? No?
No he should not. No, because he violated the terms
by being late to me and he's not showing up
and so he cost himself that money with the Raiders.

(01:11:57):
I don't believe he's gonna receive that. But the New
England Patriot money he's I was a player at for years.
He's probably gonna receive that money. But this is what
I'm saying, NFL just suspend him. So now he can't
sit up here and say, oh they got me on ice.
You're you've already suspended him. What else is? Just suspend him.
New England could have brought him back if they're in.

(01:12:17):
New England's gonna be on the hook for the money anyway.
And don't tell me New England couldn't use Antonio Brown.
Don't tell me behind closed doors that Tom Brady wouldn't
take Antonio Brown in a heartbeat behind closed doors. He'll
go on TV right now and say I'll take him
if he was asked the question and he knew what
could happen her like that's obvious. He you see the videos,
you guys, you gotta get open, you gotta be quicker.

(01:12:40):
He's frustrated. Yes, he won't have that with Antonio Brown,
but saying we're not bringing him back. You put yourself
in Robert Crafts shoes and on the way out the door,
Antonio Brown puts on what I don't know if it
was Twitter, on Instagram, on social media what he said
about Robert Kraft. Are you signing him back? You see
what he said? All right, on the other side, I'm

(01:13:01):
gonna I'm gonna take this a step further. So we
we got New England, we got Antonio Brown, we got
Tom Brady in the conversation. I'm gonna give you another
thing that's being talked about this week, and it's it's outrageous.
But as we know, in this world, nothing's impossible. Anything
that you think, how many times have we heard this? Well,
if you had tried to write this script and pass

(01:13:23):
it off to Hollywood, they never would have bought it.
Because life is stranger than fiction. We'll give you a
fictional story that could become reality. From the guy go
Fox Sports Radio Studios. Coming up next, Steve Harban and
t J Hushman Zada. All right, buckle up, folks, you
ready for this. We got a big story. So this week,

(01:13:45):
t J, there were rumors circulating about the future of
the Dallas Cowboys, and one of the wildest rumors was
is that Jerry Jones is going to go after a
package eel of Josh McDaniels and Tom Brady. All right,

(01:14:06):
let's let's back up a little bit on the story.
All right, So before last season, after the Patriots lost
the Super Bowl to the Eagles, it was all done.
Josh McDaniels was going to be the new head coach
of the Indianapolis Colts. Done deal, and then twenty four
hours later he wasn't. He backed out of the deal

(01:14:27):
and decided to stay in New England. Now, remember what
was going on to this time. It seemed like Bob
Kraft and Tom Brady had sided against Belichick. Belichick was
upset that he was basically forced to trade Garoppolo away.
Jacoby bur said, And you know because the owner was
committed to Tom Brady, and Tom Brady was going nowhere.

(01:14:50):
So a lot of people felt that, all right, Josh
McDaniels has been told stay, Belichick is gonna leave after
this season and then you're gonna become the co to
the team. Well, what happens they win the Super Bowl?
Belichick is still there, McDaniels is still there, Tom Brady
is still there, Bob Krafts still there. But when you're

(01:15:11):
Tom Brady and you are frustrated, openly frustrated about the
lack of talent that you have at your disposal offensively,
let me ask you this, t J. Does the Dallas
Cowboys currently have more offensive weapons that Tom Brady could
utilize than the New England Patriots? Oh man, that's a

(01:15:33):
easy Is that a rhetorical question point? Better offensive line,
better running back, better receivers, better everything across the board. Yeah, offensively,
the Cowboys are okay. So let's put okay. Now you're saying, well,
not close, not close, not close, And again you you
want to bring Belichick's defensive mind with you, but you

(01:15:54):
can't do that or his videos. Although I'll tell you
what if Matt Patricia were to be fired by the Lion.
Would you bring in Patricia is your defensive coordinator? Would
that matter? Nah, He's not gonna be fired. Okay, So
let's let's let's just talk about this. Is that's fantasy?

(01:16:14):
Is this fantasy of Jerry Jones bringing in Josh McDaniels
and Tom Brady is it just pure fantasy or could
it actually happen? I believe it's pure fantasy, but it
could possibly happen. I wouldn't. I'm not gonna mortgage my future,
uh and do this. I wouldn't do it. Um. I

(01:16:38):
believe Dak Prescott is an ascending quarterback. He he's on
the uptick. Um, he has at least you would hope
ten to twelve years of really good football in front
of him. And then you bring a Brady who's forty two,
forty two, going on forty three next year. And so
but if if you want, if Josh McDaniel is the

(01:17:01):
guy you want, and he presents this, I don't know
how you say no. If you're Jerry is all right, Well,
if you're Jerry Jones, Look, Jerry is getting on in years.
And I've said this before, the things that are coming
out of his mouth these days, is reminding me of
my old boss Al Davis in his later years, like
he's losing something here. But this is a guy now
twenty four years removed from his last Super Bowl win.

(01:17:24):
I thank you, Jerry. If you were to tell Jerry Jones,
like you bring Tom Brady and you will win a
Super Bowl, you may sacrifice the future of the franchise. Yeah,
he doesn't care, but it's no guarantee you're gonna win it. Well,
you're not gonna be Are they better? Are they better
with Tom Brady over Dak Prescott If you asked me

(01:17:44):
that question today, but Josh McDaniels has the head coach,
of course I'm going to say yes because he's Tom Brady.
But for the future and if it does happen, all right,
just Tray plays the Dak. Just go to New England.
Don't need a quarterback. If they're not sold on Stidham,
just just go ahead and trade places and deck you
can go planning to Bill Belichick in Foxboro. You have

(01:18:05):
a quarterback that's had major success this year in dec
and you go play with him. Would be interesting were
trading places, so to speak. If the Patriots have an
early exit in the playoffs, they lose in the first round,
which is very possible the way they've looked. I mean,
we've seen teams going to New England. He used to
be unbeatable. No longer. I truly believe Tom has done.

(01:18:27):
When his father comes out and says Bill Belichick will
basically determine if Brady stays or goes. That leads me
to believe that, Uh it's over. What do you what
do you think? Seriously he's going in the mind of
Belichick when he looks at Brady and vice versa, Bill
just wants to move on and start with a younger

(01:18:48):
quarterback because the Patriots have always gotten rid of a
player a year or too early than a year too late.
And with Brady it's been what do you think Brady
thinks of Belichick after twenty years? Damn, you still want
to get rid of me? Like? Really, it motivates him,
does it not? We we've seen Bill without Brady. How'd
that go? We've never seen Bill without Brady, so he

(01:19:12):
maybe he wants to prove Uh. I think they both
want to prove something. We haven't seen Brady without Bill, so,
but we've seen Bill without Brady that movie, that and
Matt Castle, Cleveland brown We're talking to Cleveland Browns. We've
seen Bill without Brady and that in end well, and
so it will be interesting. It would I would actually

(01:19:34):
like to see something like that happen because it will
end the discussion of oh, who deserves all the cred
who who made who? You can give me the best
game plan in the world. If I can't execute it,
game plan isn't great. All rights some big games. So
we're gonna get to where in the Guy Go Fox
Sports Radio Studio. Is much more NFL coverage coming up next.
It's sorry to be undressed. Well to make Saturday. We're

(01:19:56):
getting ready for that Army Navy game, the one college
game today and of course later on the Heisman Trophy.
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We're watching the weather in Philly. Look at the cadets
right there. I love the pageantry of the Army Navy

(01:20:18):
game is spectacular. It really is. Uh And if you're
ever lucky enough to go to an Army Navy game,
I believe me. It is an experience you will never
forget it is. It is that special out there, whether
the game matters or not, by the way, matters to Navy,
they're trying to end a losing streak. Uh, to Army.
At one point, maybe had won fourteen in a row,

(01:20:39):
but Army has reversed that trend over the last couple
of years. Maybe a favor. By the way, that's my
pick today, Gavin, I I'm taking Navy minus ten and
a half. I went back and forth on this game.
The president is there, by the way, President Trump is
there at the game today, and um, but maybe's eighth

(01:21:00):
against the spread this year, and uh, they want revenge,
they want revenge. Navy one, I think it was, and
then Armies won the last three. I think Army keeps
it rolling. I'm gonna take you're you're You're gonna take

(01:21:20):
against you. Wow, that's that's yeah. I don't know. Maybe
I don't know. I don't know anything about this. But
he's on a road this year, at least with the
college game. Speaking on a roll, you've been on a
roll with your upset picks every week. They'll have that
later on in this hour in the NFL Yeah, I've
been doing pretty well. Yeah, you have a feel for

(01:21:41):
this league right now? Um, all right, so we'll monitor
that again. The President in attendance at the Army Navy
game today. What's happening right now? Anthony rendon his angel. Yeah,
we haven't talked a lot of it. There's Scott Boris.
Think about Scott Borris. So in a matter of how
many days, in three days, three days, he got Strasburg

(01:22:05):
cole and rendoned signed to contracts totally hundreds. So and
what is his take on that? What what is his
percentage on that, you know, agents than baseball? Yeah, supposedly
is a little more, a little more. Imagine if it
was it's four of eight million dollars, I'm almost certain. Yeah,

(01:22:30):
with the mount these guys are signing for, he's getting
probably one percent, which is still a ton. That's unbelievable.
I mean one percent. That's eight millions for three days
of work, not eight million dollars. Alright, So uh yeah,
a lot of money being passed around on the baseball.

(01:22:51):
And by the way, all those contracts are guaranteed every
single cent. Well we ever see that in the NFL.
Speaking in the NFL, by the way, the salary cap
and will go up, uh tow around two million dollars.
Is that a good thing for the NFL? I guess
there's more money to be passed around. Are we ever

(01:23:12):
gonna get today where we're gonna have more or all
money guaranteed in NFL contracts? It's the only sport that
it's not. It should get to that point. And if
they don't do it, at least give us health insurance.
I mean, I pay my own health insurance. Like y'all
see me. You guys have seen me in here standing

(01:23:32):
up because my back is killing me, nerve pain all
through my leg. And uh well, that's right. Your health
insurance ran out this year, right, ran out the start
of this year. Yes it did, and so so you
get how many like five years after your last game?
Five years and then you're on your own. But this
is the thing, this is the truth too. I didn't

(01:23:53):
go to the doctor one time in those five years,
so I just had health insurance. They didn't pay anything.
I went to the dentists, but as far as going
to the doctor, never, I told you neither to go
to doctor. Finally, clean bill of health, clean bill of health,
which is obviously thank God for that. But I mean,
I would imagine, but if you're trying to acquire health

(01:24:16):
insurance as an ex football player, it's hard. It's hard
to get it. But this is the thing, though, when
you retire, the majority of us are retired at thirty five.
I had just turned thirty six. When guys retired, you
really don't have problems five years after because your bodies
and as you get older is when the problems come in.

(01:24:37):
And the majority, and luckily I'm in the minority. Lucky
the majority can't afford to pay for their own insurance.
And we play such a brutal sport do when I played,
We're doing Oklahoma's in training camp every other day. We're
banging live periods literally every day and practice all this

(01:24:58):
period is live. They don't even do that anymore. And
for us not to have a guaranteed contract our health
insurance is ridiculous. That's just my two cents on my
one takeaway Baseball guaranteed contract, every lifetime medal coin insurance,
NBA guaranteed contract, lifetime medical CoInc NFL the most brutal
sport of all non guaranteed contracts. No medal co insurance

(01:25:22):
go figure and by far the richest sport, not NFL,
not even close, by far, not even close. So I
don't know. I've always said this, t J, if you
really really want to get this thing done, the one
thing about baseball, and you know, they just honored Marvin Miller,

(01:25:43):
the late Marvin Miller, who headed up the first head
of the Players Association for Major League Baseball. And the
one thing baseball has had throughout the years for all
their disputes and everything else, is unity. Nobody breaks ranks.
You want to get a deal done in the NFL, TJ,
here's how you get it done. So every contract in
the NFL pays you for the regular season. I've said

(01:26:07):
this a million times. Here's you want to get it done.
Here's how you do it. Regular season ends. Everybody has
gotten paid in full for the season. Now you get
ready for wild card week. That's when you go on strike.
So the NFL. So the NFL is now getting ready

(01:26:27):
for the playoffs, and all the wild card teams say
we're out, and the networks are like, what are you
going to do? Oh, they would come to the table
a SAP. Everyone's been paid. You don't have to strike.
Every NFL players gotten their salary. Now it's the postseason
and you get to that wild card week and every

(01:26:49):
one of those wild card teams says, we're out. What
are you gonna do? I mean that the TV contracts
are sold on the postseason as much as anything else.
What do you well? What happened here? That is that
is the one the money you get and the majority yeah,
the majority of players. Uh take a pay cut when

(01:27:12):
a playoffs start? Of course they do. They take a
pay cut. Everybody's been paid. You got everyone got their
season salary. So it's the one wheel. Weekly check for
the playoffs is so small tear to what you would
normally get. The question is could you get have to
be a hundred percent? Everybody would have to walk that week. See,

(01:27:36):
this is the this is the problem. Okay, this is
the problem you run into because the guys that have
money are saying, why am I not playing? I can
afford to pay for my health insurance. And so when
I was a player rep I used to say, guys,
whatever we have to give up to get medical insurance
when we're retired, to give it up. We're all going

(01:27:56):
to be retired. And because guys don't, they don't. They
don't look towards the future. They look they live for
right now, live in the present. I understand this, and
so that's that's just the biggest problem because I've always
said this. If you have a twenty year old football player,
he lives and brees football, but he's not quite good enough,

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and the devil comes up, how much do you want it?
I'll do anything, all right. I'm gonna give you the
talent to play at the highest level, the NFL and
everything that comes along with it, the money, the women,
the fame, everything great. Where do I sign up? Oh,
here's the payoff. You will drop dead on your fiftieth birthday.

(01:28:40):
Now when you're twenty years old. Is like some guys
will take that the ninety if you if you don't
have the talent. If you if this is the only
way that you are going to achieve your dream of
being an NFL players, A cut a deal where at
age twenty, I will give you the talent, but at

(01:29:01):
age fifty you'll drop dead. You're like, take that I've
had when I was playing in our four oh one
k the NFL. The team would match you too. For one.
So you put in twenty thousand right they put into
so right out the gate, you're twenty dollars just turn

(01:29:22):
into sixties. Do you know? I would have to literally
force guys like they would be ready to fight me.
I'm like, I don't care, we're gonna fight right because
I want that right now. I would read like they
would like no, no, no, no, no no, I'm not
putting this like dummy, it's sixty that they're gonna you're
gonna have now like you literally, I would literally have

(01:29:42):
to force guys to sign up for their four oh
one k because they're living for the their living for today. No,
I'm not giving up this twenty grand And I'm like, dude,
it's for your future when these checks aren't coming in.
This is what's gonna supplement you. And this is what
you're gonna of off of in twenty years, twenty years,

(01:30:03):
and and and and what's interesting now, So if T. J.
Houshman's out of today walks in on a rookie class,
you know, twenty two year old guys, you walk in
and they look at you like did you play with
a leather helmet? They some know who I am, but
really they don't. They don't And it's but I was

(01:30:23):
that same guy to a certain degree, like a guy
would come get your ass out of here. But it's
it's it's kind of crazy because it's never gonna end.
Like these young guys, you're you're gonna be me one
day and the cycle never ends. How small a percentage
the current NFL players would have to forfeit in order

(01:30:45):
to guarantee healthcare for life? How small a percentage they
have to forfeit to guarantee all NFL players even if
you played a single game, I'm of insurance for life. No,
I disagree with that. This is what I will say.
And if you played between one game in five years,

(01:31:12):
so one game in five years, your health insurance should
not be the same as everyone else if you play
people that would disagree because there's so many players that
played one game. There's so many players. How much would
you have to play to me to get lifetime medical insurance?
In my opinion, you need to be eight years plus
eight years plus eight years plus. Well, what about the

(01:31:35):
like Gail says or Terrell Davis said, you know, injuries
ended their career. If you're back, any back only has
an average career of three and a half years. How
many years play? Seven? Terrell Davis played eight seven, that's
then my role. Then that doesn't make any sense because
those it sounds like a big number. The average NFL

(01:31:55):
careers what three and a half, three and a half years,
maybe three and a half years. I would say three years.
If you played three years, if you played, I could
live with that. If you play three years, If you
play three years, you're a pretty good player. But one game,
there's there's a ton of guys. Okay, well, let's say
you played two years and you were a top level

(01:32:17):
player and a catastrophic injury ends your career. Do you
make an exception. Yes, you have to because your career
was in it because of that. But you have to
you have to start somewhere. You have to start somewhere.
And it's guys. A lot of guys have too much pride.
They won't ask for help. I've had guys text me

(01:32:40):
and they they they text me because when we played together,
I showed them so much love and they feel like
they can trust me. And man, I don't know what
to do. All right, I'll make some calls for you
and see what Because they don't want to make the
call themselves. And this goes on a lot. Guys ran
they mismanaged their money or people older money and they

(01:33:01):
just can't afford it. They have kids, they start to
get old, their bodies are starting to have these problems,
Like I have insurance and my body is beat up.
I don't even I still don't go get it checked on.
And I have insurance and I'm paying for it now.
And so that's a topic that the NFL and the
NFL p A knows because every time I see somebody,
I bring it up to him. All Right, they sweep
it under the road. All right, Well, now that you've

(01:33:22):
gone to the doctor, even if you've got that clean
bill of health, you need to continue to go to
the doctor. All Right, we're in the guy go Fox
Sports Radio Studios. We're gonna get back to some of
the games going on tomorrow. And one guy that has
flown under the radar, but if you don't know it,
he's leading the NFL in passing efficiency. Man is Ryan Tannehill.

(01:33:43):
For real. We're gonna tell you coming up next. Clap
trap clap snap snap um. Why does that voice sound familiar?

(01:34:04):
That was a little hypercut of the season so far. Well,
oh do you guys was pretty awesome. We that's some
good stuff. We were you with me when Brady Popping
and I were doing the show one day. I think
it was the opening game when you when you Josh
Rosen was at U C l A and through an

(01:34:25):
interception while I was speaking. That was like one of
the worst passes I've ever seen in my life, and
I just you didn't handle it well. I did not
handle it well on air. It was like, you know,
did you just throw that pass? Yeah? You make a
lot of strange noises when you get emotional, have any

(01:34:48):
different than anybody else. That is a true sportsman, Yavin.
Don't you make good noises when a team you bet
on does something really bad and you're gonna lose that bet? Yes,
I do. I do. Don't know if I make as
many that something like this, I don't know what that is.

(01:35:09):
I thank you very much. I will be in Vegas,
by the way, during the bull New Year's Eve day,
before New Year's even Year's Day. Yeah, so plenty of gambling.
I might be texting you ferociously about some picks. Yeah,
you know, as we well, it depends on this if
if Navy covers today and I get to fourteen and one.

(01:35:30):
I mean, obviously I have something going on in college
football this year, right, I mean that's a pretty impressive record.
So does does it continue during the bowl season? I mean, TJ,
We're gonna have a lot of ball games coming up here,
so we gotta gotta and they're always ball games are
next to impossible, Like who really wants to play in
the game, Who's abut to prove something? Who's going through

(01:35:50):
the emotion? You know, just the emotions and everything else.
That's why bowl games are really really challenging. All right, Um,
Ryan Tannehill, now you told me this has been exhausted
all week long. I mean, Ryan Tannehill, I mean you
talk about most valuable play. What what defines most valuable player?
Most valuable player to mean means is that your presence

(01:36:14):
alone has flipped the table for a team. And there's
no denying that Ryan Tannehill replacing Marcus Mariota has completely
changed the fortune of the Tennessee Titans. Now they have
two of their last three games headhead against the Texans.
I guess that will decide it. But where do you
stand right now? In Tannehill? Have what we've seen him

(01:36:37):
currently leading the NFL in passing efficiency completing his passes.
By the way, what's happening here? We saw him in Miami.
Are you so that Tannehill is the quarterback of the
future and beyond for the Tennessee Titans. Oh? Man, am
I sold? I'm semisold, I'm partially sold. If I'm a Tennessee,

(01:37:04):
I franchise him. I don't give him a contract extension.
I give him the franchise tag to see if he
can do it for an entire season. And that's a
price tag you're going to give him that that's the
going price for quarterbacks. I mean actually for a franchise
quarterback that's actually lower level franchise quarterback what the tag
will be. And so you have to make sure that
he's that guy. And so the only way you can

(01:37:26):
do that is by franchise and him. You can't hamstring
your organization in your team by giving him a franchise
quarterback type extension. And he's not that guy, and so
I franchise him. He looks to be the goods um man,
Adam Gates really looks bad that he leaves you in Voila.

(01:37:49):
I mean, he's literally right now playing like the best
quarterback in the NFL. But he does have a running
back that's averaging six yards to carry. When you're averaging
six yards and carry a in the box opens up
play action reads are very easy. That they're they're defined,
and so the team around him is playing well. But

(01:38:09):
he's doing what he's supposed to do. His UH completion
percentage over the last three weeks seventy seven point eight,
seventy seven point three, seventy seven point eight. Uh, he's
putting up astronomical numbers. Right now. You mentioned Derrick Henry
right now, he's the best running back in the NFL.
And I wasn't so sure. You know, early on the
type they never played this guy. Remember he was like

(01:38:32):
a couple of years ago with DeMarco Murray, right and
they were just sort of using him as But then
you realize, go back to his Alabama days when he
was carrying the ball times, he is one of those guys.
We're talking about a two fifty pound back who runs
a legit four five. And as John Gruden, as they
were getting ready to play Tennessee said, here's the thing

(01:38:54):
about Derrick Henry. He never gets tired. So he seems
to get stronger as the game goes. He's a beast
and now right in this moment, he's the best running
back in this league. He's huge, like you see Derek
Harry in person. It's not that he doesn't get tired.
Everybody gets tired. They get tired attacking this big as Like,

(01:39:17):
you see how big he is. You're like in a
fourth quarter, like, God, he's still coming. So we're talking
about fifty easy, and it's it's a most running backs,
you're what five eleven two hundred if yeah, five eleven
two Asian Peterson is a nice size. He's six one
fifty runs four five. But it's a impressive look into fifty.

(01:39:42):
I mean, you see him running at you, like, man,
I'm not aiming for the knees, I'm aiming for the
top of his shoe, his ankle, like he he looks
like a defensive end, like he's a big boy. And so, god,
you don't want to tackle him for four quarters? What
do you think is gonna happen? So again, we mentioned
the Titans in the Texans weird scheduling, right, they play

(01:40:03):
against each other two of the last three weeks, and
by the way, the in between game for the Titans
against the Saints. So I mean, if Tan Hills for real,
he's gonna have to prove it in the next three weeks.
Who's better Titans are Texans? Right now? Right now? Right now?
Of course it's the Uh, it's the Titans. Who's gonna
win the division, in my opinion, will be the Texas
already have to do is win one of the two

(01:40:24):
games they play, and they're in the playoffs, and so
who's a better team? Now? You you have to be
full to say the Texas are better. The Titans are
six and one in their last seven games. Have Have
we reached the ceiling on Deshaun Watson? No, no, no, no, no.
Deshaun Watson is one of the better young quarterbacks in
the league. Deshaun Watson. Once they continue to fortify that
offensive line, uh, You're gonna see a better Deshaun Watson

(01:40:49):
if that's possible, because he's playing well. He didn't play
well last week against Denver, but his offensive line is
not what it should be. His receivers outside of Hopkins
are always in and out of the lineup. But I
like Deshaun Watson as a quarterback all right. When the guy.
Go Fox Sports Radio Studios. We've got another interesting rumor

(01:41:10):
circulating that we're gonna dig deep into on the other side.
But right now, let's find out what trending is. David
Gascon He is getting very much ready for this Army
Navy game. It's underway. Man, have you been to it?
I did. I told you. I went to the game
when it was in Washington, d C. Was the only
time ever President Obama and Vice President Biden were there

(01:41:33):
and I stayed on the field long enough to not
only see the President, I actually shook his hands very nice. Yes,
so it was very memorable. But that aside just the
pageantry of the game. Being there in that game, Oh
my god, it's yeah. See did you hear what TJ said?
Seeing things in person does nothing for him. He can
see a picture and just be fine. Yeah. But man,

(01:41:55):
I held a rally for Obama his first term at
Xavier College. Uh. Somebody just sent me a picture of
it this week. Did you meet the president to be
at that point? Yeah, it was myself. Well, let me
ask you this. Were you impressed by medium in person
or wasn't that he wasn't the president at the time.
He was trying to become I actually shook Donald Trump's
hand long before he became president. Does that count? Of course,

(01:42:18):
if you'd put t j in the military, I think
he would be a bona fide sniper because his pulse
would just never have to elevate. That dude as cool
as this out of the pillow, excide something I don't
wait to me. His daughter's in college now, there's been
plenty of moments for her athletically to get excited about,
he says, with his daughters just sent me a picture
I'm getting. Yeah, when my kids played, it's like, I'll

(01:42:40):
play like I'm all in. It's good. You're not. You're
not like true soccer parent, though, are you? No? No,
I'm not. I'm not screaming, but I'm like inside, I'm
like when they failed, I feel like I failed. It's good, though,
because you turned coach every every so often. To let
me ask you this very quickly. Have t j uh
your daughters play softball? Have they ever been involved in

(01:43:00):
like a brawl? Do you ever see that in in softball? No? No, no, no,
do women get into physical brawls at all? I mean
I know they have, but I mean I've seen where girls,
a girl gets on base and she starts talking trash
to the shortstopper second base, the second base, or the
first baseman or the third base. I get too upset
as a dad. No, no, no, no, because I've actually, yeah,

(01:43:22):
you're a good trash. I've actually been on a team
where the third baseman punched a girl that was talking
to her crazy. That was that third base And how
did you deal with that? Just broke the fight up
and took her out of the game. So he's been
coaching this stuff, David, and he's he's so he's all
over this man, you know, But nowadays I think he
might agree with me on this. It's it's hard to

(01:43:44):
fight off the parents that it is the athlete the parents.
The reason the athletes are the way they are is
because of the parents. Like a lot of the time,
the parents from the crowd in the stands there, it's overboard.
They go crazy over a bad call, miscall. It's ridiculous. Yeah,
I mean, Bucky Brooks would tell us every so often
it was it was brutal listening to some of the
parents trying to coach him up on head a coach,

(01:44:06):
I'm like, oh, yeah, man, this guy playing the National
Football League. Might Granada Hills High School there, Bucky Brooks, unbelievable.
It happens all the time, man, it is unbelievable. Well,
you guys talking about football right now. Army and Navy
are underway right now. There's no score just yet. They're
halfway through the game's opening quarter. In this one, Navy
sits at nine and to this season in twenty three

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ranked in the nation in the National Football League. Indianapolis
Colts wide receiver t Why Hilton is gonna be a
game time decision tomorrow. Panthers left tackle Greg Little He's
on injured reserve, so he's done for the season. Nelson Aguilar,
he's out for week fifteen. The same can be said
for Jordan Howard, the running back of the Philadelphia Eagles.
They are a no go against the Washington Redskins in
college basketball today. Richard handles the ball trying to get

(01:44:49):
to the basket, gets by his man and one got
by Simpson with the crafty dribble and pretty shurtle head
to the line as Oregon lead with a that sixteen
to go. Yeah, Pitton, Pritchard Port and twenty three points
eleven of nineteen from outside and Oregon shocks Michigan at
home seventy one to seventy. In that affair Number twenty,

(01:45:10):
Villanova leading Delaware but just by one, forty seven to
forty six. What about would you be excited for the
Kentucky Derby? T J? You know what I was when
I played in Cincinnati. Obviously I should have gone, and
I was on my way to Kentucky. It rains every year.
It rains every year on a Kentucky Derby. I would
like to go, but it I mean I was literally

(01:45:31):
an hour and some change of win. I've I've never been.
Is there is there any how about this? Is there
any college football venue stadium that you've never been to?
You say, Man, one time, I like to sarve see
a game there. Now, I mean going to the LSU games.
It's a it's a good experience, but it's not like, uh,
notre name stadium. No, I don't know. Maybe something's wrong

(01:45:53):
with me, Steve. There's there's plenty. None of us are perfect.
I've never been. Yeah, there's nothing that you have. No
bucket list is basically what you're saying. No bucket list manager,
no bucket list. Hopefully, live a long time and my kids, Uh,
live a healthy life. That's all. I'm with you there,
all right, David, thanks so much. We're coming alive from

(01:46:14):
the getic Fox Sports Radio studios. Easy to say fifteen
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part figuring out which way is easier. A couple of
things I want to get to in this segment. One
with a heispan. But first I want to get to uh,
Tom Brady. So we were talking earlier about this wild

(01:46:35):
rumor about Josh McDaniels and Tom Brady coming to the Cowboys.
Let's go with a different team because unlike Dallas, where
the future seems to be set with Dak Prescott, there
is a team that's got talent, but as far as
the future, their quarterback position, potentially it could be up
for grabs. And I'm talking about the Chargers. Um, I
don't know what's going on right now as far as

(01:46:57):
behind the scenes of Philip Rivers and the charge everyone
seems to think it's over for him. I'm not sure
of that, by the way, but let's assume for a
second Tom Brady. Look Tom Brady is gonna call his
own shots. If you were advising Tom Brady and you
are making a case why coming to the Los Angeles

(01:47:23):
Chargers in this brand new stadium with the talent that
they have or what they don't have actually is something
that could work in his favorite Could you make that
argument yes and no? I say yes. Uh. Skill position
wise check fantastic. Kennan All and Mike Williams. Melvin Goren

(01:47:43):
comes back, Eckler Hunter, Henry probably the best group of
guys he's played with since he had a Moss and
overall might be the best. Overall. Defensively, defensive line stout,
linebacker is pretty good, secondary pretty good. Weakness that probably
should be a strength would be the offensive line. And

(01:48:06):
with Brady not being a mobile quarterback, can they go
get a guy in free agency? Can they draft a
few guys to make him feel comfortable and saying, Okay,
we're gonna fortify this line up front because he if not,
you're pretty much in the same situation you are win
New England with just better skill players, and so he
needs a really good offensive line. The Chargers don't have that,

(01:48:29):
but everything else they have is wow, is pretty top notch.
All right, So that's on the field. How about coming
to l A. Now, my argument about a guy like
Tom Brady, who is universally known, he doesn't need to
have l A in order to make life after football
work for him. It's already working for him. It will
work more, it will work more. And look, from the

(01:48:52):
Charger standpoint, they are trying to do something. I don't
know if you heard this, Ladinian Tomlinson, Kevin, did you
he hear your buddy led this week? Our resident Charger
fan right now? Yah? What do you think about that?
With the Brady thing? What's your thoughts? Yeah, he's he is,
he's not. I hate the Patriots, I've hated them for

(01:49:12):
a long time, so that would be really hard for me.
For Tom Brady and a Charge I'm not a casual
NFL fan, would love that. I get that. You know,
he ripped my heart out in No. Six and I've
never forgiven him. Um So no, I don't want to
see him come here. That would be really, really tough.
But no, obviously he's he's the goat, you know. I
think it would definitely put people in the stands and

(01:49:34):
you know, make a lot of new Charger fans. But again,
how long is he gonna be there anyway? You know,
well long it's Philip going to be here. Yeah, but see,
my thought with Philip was just one more year, get
the quarterback this year and then you know, so you
here if they need to put butts in the seats,
you don't think Brady would put butts in the seats,
and you can still have the same succession plan as

(01:49:56):
what you would have with I think Brady is really
set on play until Okay, that's fine, two more years
that that's fine as well. Yeah, I mean again, what
you're trying to do. And I don't know if did
you hear this LT comment. I guess he was on
some radio show and it was unbelievable because that they've
failed in l A. Well, he went on even further.

(01:50:16):
He basically said, there's gonna come a point where the
NFL said enough enough. And I'm like, don't you work
for the chart? Are you nuts? What are you saying?
I mean, it's also like we told you this, this
was the thing the whole time when you moved to
l A. Nobody wants you here that you know, I
love the team, but I don't I didn't love them

(01:50:38):
because they were in l A. You know, so that's
a tough one. They have an interesting decision. Um. In
a perfect world, you know, maybe you just move on
from Phil start Tyrod next year, Tank and get Trevor Lawrence.
You know. By the way, Army gets on the board first,
Oh boy, oh boy, I took the ten and a

(01:50:59):
half Look at you, Army ten and a half point.
Dog came in at five and seven. Navy nine and two,
heading into a pretty good bowl game. By the way,
They're taking on Kansas State in a good bowl game
this year. Whenever Army Navy get together, it's never a
ten and a half point game. But it's been four
years since Navy one an Army looking for their fourth

(01:51:21):
win and row after losing fourteen years in a row.
Up early in this game. Quick question about the Heisman Trophy. Guys.
I saw this piece that they did on the Heisman
and some people were saying, three years ago when Lamar
Jackson won the Heisman Trophy, that was the year that
dis Shaun Watson was the runner up and then he
leads Clemson to a championship. A lot of people said,

(01:51:43):
you know, when they I felt like man, I should
have voted for Deshaun Watson. Let me ask you this,
t J. Should the voting for the Heisman Trophy wait
until after the National Championship game or should it remained
essentially a regular season awards? Should this should remain the
same because not every year, for the most part, for

(01:52:08):
the most part, but not every year is a player
going to come from a team that's playing in the
College Football Championship. And so if that's the case, will
votes be swayed? Oh, his team did really well. He
wasn't a candidate, He wasn't a guy that would have
been invited to New York. But man, the way he
played in these two games, we have to reconsider. Think

(01:52:29):
about card L. Jones. Think think about this the first
year of the playoff in right, So if you had
had the Heisman Trophy vote after the bowl games, this
is a guy that was a third string quarterback who
didn't even play until the Big Ten Championship game, and
then he won two more games, I guarantee he may
not have won the Heisman. He would have gotten a

(01:52:51):
lot of votes based on three games. Think about last year,
Trevor Lawrence did not place in the top ten voting
for the Heisman Trophy. But if they had voted after
his game against Alabama, he might have won it. Yeah,
and so to me, it can't be. I'm can't be
a one or two game of excellence. And it's a

(01:53:11):
season long of just being steady, steady, steady, and they
have these three, four, five big games. But you know
what happens a lot of times, you get a guy
that wins the Heisman, then they lay an egg in
the postseason. It happens. It happens a lot. It's that's
why sports, you mean, nobody plays their best game every game. Nobody,

(01:53:31):
Nobody's gonna play their best game every game. And by
the way, all sports, all of them, major League Baseball, NFL, NBA, NHL,
all of their awards are regular season awards, all of
them as they should be, exactly, I'm with you, I mean,
and by the way, they do have postseason awards. You
could be Super Bowl m v P, you could be

(01:53:52):
World Series m v P. You can college then create
I'll tell you what if you want to create an
individual award. But you know, it's interesting though, when you
when you've seen when you hear from Heisman Trophy winners,
football is the consummate team sport. Every highsman winner will
say the same thing, I can't do without my teammates.

(01:54:14):
I I'm I'm one piece. It does seem weird, maybe
even more so in football than any other sport, when
you hand somebody an individual honor because no one person
can do it. It's impossible. Yeah, it's uh. The Heisman
Trophy has basically become who we feel as the best

(01:54:35):
quarterback on the best team, and so many things have
to work. Yes, for that quarterback to win that awards,
you have to have an offensive line that protects normally,
you have to have a pretty good running game. More importantly,
you have to have really good receivers that can catch
a slat route and go seventy And you also have
to have an offensive systems. As Joe Burrow found out,

(01:54:57):
how did he go from a fifty eight percent path
suster to a seventy eight percent passer in a single season.
And some people aren't sold on Burrow. People aren't very Oh,
he's a flash in the pan. You know, he couldn't
start at Ohio State. He backed up J. T. Barrett,
he backed up Dwayne Haskins. Or can we just say

(01:55:18):
the great Urban mar just probably made a mistake and
not playing him. All right, We're in the guy called
Fox Sports Radio Studios. Uh coming up of course. It
is the weekly highlight of this show. T J. Houshman
Zada's Upset pick of the week. Man, I gotta start looking.
I ain't really paid attention this week. It's coming up
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All right, Speaking of getting it done, Sam, did you
your tickets yet for the Holiday Bowl? I did? You? Did?

(01:56:02):
You will be there bringing my buddy for his birthday.
We're going. What do you what do you think the
percentage of Iowa fans versus USC fans are gonna be
t J for the Holiday Bowl down San Diego? I
would Iowa fans are probably gonna out number them, I
would think considering how many uh upset people that are
at USC about Clay Helton being retained. Navy. It's just scored, Navy.

(01:56:23):
It's just scored. Don't count your money yet, there, Gavin,
I just want to say, earlier on the Jason McIntire show,
we were talking about making a fictional over under on
the amount of passes that would be thrown in this game.
He said something like twenty two. I said, fifteen and
a half through a quarter and some change. There's been
one pass in this game. One pass. Literally, Army had

(01:56:45):
the ball the entire first quarter. Yeah, then they left
twenty seven seconds on the clock. I believe the entire
first quarter. I had it. By the way, Army played
San Diego State a couple of years ago in a
bowl again. Do you remember that game? Army beat San
Diego State and they threw like old passes, but they
ran for like four hundred yards. It was crazy. I mean,
both these teams they do more with what they've got

(01:57:07):
than any other schools in the FBS. I guarantee Army
has had twelve minutes of time and Navy has had three.
And who threw the one pass? By the way, who
who actually that was Army? A Christian Anderson? Yeah, I
saw it too, actually alright, so they asked the word pass.
I want to thank Gascon is always the most underutilized

(01:57:28):
talent on the planet, and then there's then there's Gavin
went against me today on the Picks. Yes, Um, I'm
gonna see uh David Gascon at the holiday party later tonight.
I'm gonna give him a noogie. Now, by the way,
did you did you hear this about? More and more
companies are canceling their holiday parties because of the me

(01:57:51):
too movement, sexual harassment, liability. Somebody has its maybe a
couple of three too much. Ah, I'm saving that. I mean,
I think we all have experiences at holiday parties, or
at least one individual has gotten out of control, right, Yeah,

(01:58:13):
a little too many tequila sunrises, right, a little handsy tequila.
Have you guys ever had cosa Dragonis? No, I don't drink,
but uh Jason Wentlock squears it's the best tequila you
can drink, Cossa Dragonis. I tried George Clooney's tequila lately.

(01:58:34):
Yea Cossamigos. It's very good. That's crazy that I know that.
And I'm not drinking. No, you don't drink well, how
do you drink your tequila straight? And what do you
what do you do over there? Gavin? Yeah, I don't
drink a lot of tequila. But every now and then
I will dip into a tequila ezequilla. I mean not,
I'll drink like once a year, maybe like once aego.

(01:58:55):
When you say drink, when you mean like a beer
or wine or you just here. I've had one beer
my entire life. It was so disgusting. I've never had it.
How about a wine, I mean like a good wine, right,
I don't. Wine is like oast it you gotta get
Will Blackman, and you know Will's the NFL. We've talked.
Wine is too strong, like I need. Yeah. Still, it
depends on how much you drink. I mean, you know,

(01:59:16):
I mean if you drink half a bottle, just taking
a sip of it is wrong. Alcohol is not good
to me. So that's why I'm not a drinker. That's okay.
It treats means Sam very well. Right. That's why you
guys are at the professional Athlete in the studio. So
like when do you guys, like, do you drink a
beer or wine? What do you Sam? I can't. I
can't imagine. I was at a holiday party last night

(01:59:38):
that had an open bar at they guy coming down
the stretch, are is that time once again? For t J.
Houshman's has been on a roll to give us his
NFL Upset Pick of the week. What he got, t J,
I don't know if I would call this an upset,
but it has to be an upset because they are

(01:59:58):
the underdog and they are playing on the road, Buffalo
over the Pittsburgh Steelers. Wow. I thought you were gonna
say Texans, But I thought, honestly, I thought he was
gonna take the Chargers, who are a home dog against
the Vikings. YEAHV And are you going with the Chargers? Like,

(02:00:18):
you know what, They're finally healthy right now? This is
the roster we thought going to James back and everything else.
I'd take the two and a half. You alright? So
all right, well, good luck with that, t J. Good
luck with that. All right. You'll be celebrating tonight your
ls U guy winning the Heisman Trophy.

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