Fox Football Sunday: Andy Furman & Bucky Brooks talk NFL Wild Card Playoffs, College Football Championship and So Much More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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What's going on?

Speaker 3 (00:40):
I am good Andy? What's going on? We had a
great playoff weekend College and Pro, so I'm excited to
talk about it.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Well, more importantly, I hope you and your family are safe.
I know you're in the LA area, and I want
to reach out to all our colleagues, staff members and
people as well in Los Angeles. But it affects them,
it affects me. It makes me sick when I see
these photos on the news. As what's happening with that fire.
It's disgusting, and those have been just lost everything. It

(01:07):
kills me. It kills me to see that. So I'm
happy to hear that you're okay and your family's okay.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yeah, no, that's crazy. It's been nuts out here. Anyone
who lives in LA like all those areas that have
been affected. You talk about some of the nicest areas
in LA, not just from an affluent standpoint, but just
to visit to see the city so picturesque, you know,
so so historic. To see those places ruin, it's heartbreaking,
and I just my heart goes out to all the families.

(01:34):
Hope everyone is able to you know, hold on to
their loved ones and regards to the property as lost.
We hope that everyone is able to bounce back quickly.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
And our staff as well, Shay, Shay and Mark and
everybody here at our staff, we hope their families and
their friends and them elves are okay and safe. I
just got a text several hours ago from Jonas Knox
Journas is out there and he says he's okay. He
lost power for a little bit, but he's fine. So
I'm glad to hear that, so and the logistical albums also,
I mean games have been canceled, moved, and we can

(02:02):
think about the travel and people who had tickets for
the games in LA and now that games in Arizona,
what are they doing now refund them or those people
are going to travel. I doubt it they're gonna go
to the Arizona to that football game. It's it's a
complete mess. But more than that, people have been devastated,
losing everything, their homes. It's just it's terrible. It should
never happen, but it did. So we just hope you

(02:24):
could give you a little pleasure for a couple of hours,
maybe get your mind off that, I hope. So we'll
talk about what it's called. I guess the Super Wildcard
weekend or is it just a Wildcard weekend. I don't
know what's the correct term book super Wildcard is just wildcard,
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
They've changed so many times. I think it's now known
as Super Wildcard Weekend. But regardless, it's a great weekend.
We've got a lot of games on, we got a
lot of things to discuss, so I'm excited to chat
about it.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yes, and I talk about this game. I saw the
game late. I watched both and look, I know I'm
kind of a anti paying for streaming, but I got
the Amazon deal. So if you got Amazon Prime, you
get the deal free, you know what I'm saying. So
I got that. So I watched it last night, and
there's been a question can we put it to rest
right now? But the MVP, I mean, really, it's Lamar Jackson.

(03:13):
Lamar Jackson received thirty first place votes ahead of Buffalo
Bill's quarterback Josh Allen Allen at eighteen in the Associated
Press All Pro Selection. What does that mean? These people
that vote for the Associated Press All Pro Team vote
for the MVP. It's gonna be Lamar Jackson and what
he did last night. And I know playoff games do
not count for MVPs regular season correct, so the game

(03:35):
last night will not count for his MVP deal. But still,
in all what he has accomplished, what he did during
this season, he will be the MVP. Really, I will
eat crow if he doesn't get it. Do you agree?

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Yeah? I agree? I mean, and look, there was a
strat stand the mid of the ye where I thought
Josh Allen was deserving to be in the MVP was
right after we saw him kind of take down the
La Rams and the Detroit Lions, two big games on
national stages where he he was an absolute star. But
when you witness Lamar Jackson over the course of the
season and you look at the numbers, his numbers this
year even compared to last year, Look, it exceeds what

(04:10):
he did in the MVP campaign. But when you had
a chance to watch him against the Pittsburgh Steelers, it
kind of sealed the deal for me, just the impact.
And I know people using in reverse, they'll talking about
the impact of Derrick Henry on him, but it actually
works twofold because people have to pay attention to number
eight all the time. They got to make sure you
monitor his whereabouts when they're running that zone repower game.

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It makes a very difficult defend because you're so worried
about Lamar Jackson scooting out the back door. It's an
unbelievable combination to have. And then you factor in what
Lamar Jackson has done as a pass or forty one
touchdown passes for interceptions. Man, it look, you have to
have a serious case against him not to give it
to him. And I just don't know how you can't

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give it to.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Him, how with you? I second that emotion, I really do. Now, No,
we move on. Okay, Now, last night it was Pittsburgh
playing Baltimore in Baltimore, right, final score twenty eight fourteen.
It was worse than that, it really was. But right
now the Ravens have won five straight. There was a
twenty one zip at halftime. It looked like was rolling
over him. It was ridiculous. Lamar had one hundred and
seventy five yards, two touchdowns, sixteen for twenty one passing

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eighty one yards rushing Derrick Henry two touchdowns, twenty six carries,
one eighty six one hundred eighty six yards and two touchdowns.
It's amazing. But the question now, another kind of like
after thought for this game, what's the deal with the Steelers?
All Right? They've lost what six straight games? Number one?
Number two? What's the future look like for coach Mike Tomlin?

(05:40):
Could he be on his way out? I mean, I
know he's never had a losing season in eighteen years
as coach, but has the time come like they need
a new face to roll that club?

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Look? And I knew this would be a part of
the story, right because everyone would pointing to Pittsburgh and
they're talking about the six straight playoff losses, is to
talk about the point that they lost five games in
a row at the end of the season, so they
faded fast after really a surprising start, and now they
need to move on from Mike Tomlin in those things.
And the only thing that I'll say when anyone says
this about Mike Tomlin and the situation is Pittsburgh, Okay, great,

(06:16):
you remove him, but who comes in that you know
is going to be better, Because if you just move
on from him because you're disappointed with the one and
dones in those things, that's one thing. But if you're
not going to get an upgrade at coach, you're just
doing things just to sake of doing it. And I
don't think any of us expected Pittsburgh to be a

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Super Bowl contender. At the beginning of the year. Most publications,
most media outlets had them pick forth in a division
that was expected to be one where we talked about Baltimore,
Cleveland and Cincinnati being at the top. Yeah, like it's
disappointing they don't move on, but you have to get
in the tournament to have a chance of winning the tournament.

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In the last eight seasons, they've been to the playoffs
with five six times. I think it's hard to move
on from someone who has dead level of success.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
I want to make a clear right now to everybody.
I'm a Mike Tomlin fan. I've always backed him. I
love what he's done. I think is one hell of
a coach, and I think it's the first ballot Hall
of Famer, There's no doubt in my mind. I look
at the Mike Tomlin situation right now as an immediate
piece for media people to latch onto and talk about,
very similar to the Ryan Day situation after he lost

(07:29):
to Michigan. I mean, how do you get rid of
a guy who all he does is win?

Speaker 3 (07:33):
You know?

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Now, Ryan Day, thank goodness, has closed the maude of
many of those people because it looks like Ohio State
may win it all. They might well see, I don't know,
but he's kind of pushed that in the back room,
and Mike Tomlin now has come to the forefront because
what he has not done in the playoffs, but all
he has done for eighteen seasons is win. That's all
he's done. So I think that people that have back

(07:55):
off a little bit of Mike Tomlin. Agreed, Yeah, agreed.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
I mean, look, I think if you believe that Mike
Thomlins should move on, you should probably have the same
sentiment when it comes to Kyle Shanahan, because by all accounts,
Mike Tomlin is far more successful than Kyle Shanahan has
ever been. He's been to two Super Bowls, he's won one,
he's lost one. When we can talk about the record
and people say, oh, it doesn't matter, no losing seasons,
but Kyle Shanahan has had four losing seasons in the

(08:22):
eight seasons that he's been on the job. In San Francisco. Yeah,
they've been to two Super Bowls, but they've lost both
of them. So if you're disappointed at Mike Tomlin, you
certainly should be disappointed in San Francisco and talk about
wanting to have a new voice. That's why sometimes these
guys that have success, these guys that are viewed as
great coaches, sometimes their success hurts them because people are

(08:46):
so the expectations are so high for them that we
expect it to be a Super Bowl or bus situation.
It's hard. Bill Belichick is really the only coach and
now Andy Reid. They're the only ones who will winning
multiple super Bowls like it was nothing. Nobody else does that.
I mean, so that's the standard that we've created for

(09:07):
some of these people, and fair or not, that's just
how we viewed them.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
It's a shame.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
You know.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
It's funny because now that Buffalo is in the postseason,
you know, you go back and say, I can't believe
that Buffalo appeared in four consecutive Super Bowls. Yes, they
lost all four of them, but the fact that to
make four super Bowls in a row, that's a heck
of a feat. It really is. No one talks much
about that something because they lost those four games and
they look at them as, oh, they lost Foy. Just

(09:34):
getting to the super Bowl is an accomplishment in itself,
it really is. But people don't give people people want
so much. Like you say, the expectations are almost ridiculous,
they really are. But last night's game was about a
defensive struggle, it really was. That's how the Ravens really
won the game. As much as you know Jackson and
Derreck Henry were successful, they're dominance the Ravens that toward

(09:55):
seventy more rushing yards on the Steelers and get this
is an unbelievable stat Pittsburgh was out gained three oh
six to fifty nine in the first half. Again, you
want to blame Mike Tomlin. No, I just don't think
he's got the players anymore. I really don't think he's
got the staff. Neige Harris had seventeen yards on six carries.
I guess that may be his final game in the
Steeler uniform.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Maybe now I'm gonna say this because I don't want
to take call the blame away from Mike Tomlin. Like
Mike Tomlin is chiefly responsible for putting together this roster.
He has been there, he has had a strong opinion
and say and the people that are on the roster,
so some of their shortcomings, a lot of their shortcomings
falls at his feet because he's the head coach. He's

(10:37):
in charge. That said, I think you just have to
be careful when it reminds me of the Atlanta Braids, right,
the Atlanta Braids in the nineties, where the Atlanta Braids
would dominate the NL East. I want to say they
won like eighteen or nineteen straight division titles, but only
had one Super Bowl to their credit. And so you
have to make the decision would you rather be the

(10:58):
Atlanta Braids or would you rather be the Marlins, the
Florida Marlins, Miami Marlins, whatever version. They won two World
Series titles, but they were never in contention those other years,
And so what's more important to you as a fan base.
Is it about consistently being in the conversation or is
it about all we care about is we win and

(11:18):
we sucked for years in between, and then we went again.
We're happy with those kinds of results. I think there
is something to the consistency. But Mike Tomlin has to
find a way to get this team beyond the first round,
because that's certainly not acceptable in a city where you've
won six Super Bowls in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
You know. I looked at Mike Tomlin very closely on
the field on the silence after the game, and it
looked like a guy who was so fed up. I'm thinking,
is it possible he may just walk away? Is it possible?
He just so looked like drained and almost happy that
it was over. And the players kind of played in

(11:57):
the same manner, like let's just get this over with.
At least in the first half. They played that way.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
I would say that anytime you lose, like man, losing
games in the league hard, when you lose four in
a row going into the postseason, that's not the way
you want to finish. Everyone talks about, every coach talks about,
I want to play a best ball down the stretch.
You want to play your best ball the final month
of the season. The Pittsburgh Steelers weren't able to do that.
So you take the four losses at the end of

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the regular season, the monkey that he has on his back,
given the lack of playoff success to his twenty eighteen
that's a lot to carry. But I also don't believe
that he would walk away because he loves the game
too much. He's a fiercely intense competitor. They've signed him
to a new deal, so he has an extension. It

(12:47):
may just be the exhaustion from a long season, but
I certainly wouldn't expect him to walk away.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
You know, during the games, I mean during day games.
When I watched the Steelers, he's always wearing sunglasses. In
the night games. I think, does he have some sort
of a disorder with his eyes? I mean, he has
some eye difficulty. It looks like he's got those big
I mean, he may have some sort of a disease.
I'm serious when I say that. I know it sounds crazy,
but he's got some big, big eyes and just something

(13:14):
different with his eyes than others have. I mean, I
haven't even looked, kind of do some research, you know Google.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Does he have to know what you're saying, because some
people talk about like so for instance, Michael Jordan and
they talk about like, right, his eyes have a yellow
tint to us, so it could be like johndicelike. Look,
I don't know about that. I always thought it was
kind of the epitome of cool, how he carries himself
on the field, like the glasses. The Ray banned glasses
on the aviators on during the day, even wearing them

(13:43):
sometimes at night, Like that's always kind of been his thing.
And I think there is a feel or vibe that
he gives off that makes him revered amongst his players,
because when you hear the players talk about him, they
all revere. It's rare that you find someone who has
a negative word to say about Mike Tomlin that play
for him. On the outside, we have our own opinions

(14:06):
a lot of times that of shape whether the Steilers
are winning or losing. But I get it. That's the game,
that's the life that we're in right now.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Here's where it gets a little complicated and an idiot
like me has to kind of do some research on this. Now,
the Baltimore Ravens are going to advance the divisional round
that I knew, and they're gonna face either the Bills
on the road in Buffalo or the Texans at home
in Baltimore. And Baltimore now and then tell me if
I'm correct on this, they cannot face the top seeded

(14:36):
Kansas City Chiefs because the Texans win over the Charges yesterday.
So I'm okay, I'm on this now. But it is
sort of complicated if you're a fan, you really have
to do a little studying. I mean, we just to
clear it up a little bit, and the Steelers will
head to the off season with questions, so we know that.
So that's where it's at right now. We talk about
that first game yesterday afternoon. Texans charge is thirty two

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to twelve hour shot. I mean, really and truly, I mean,
I mean you had to be I mean, you know
who's shocked this Iscanti Bengals. How do you let Joe
Mixon go what he did yesterday? I mean, you got
to run the ball and the AFC got look Derek
Henry's prof you got to run the football in the
AFC North. The Bengals couldn't run this run the football

(15:18):
this year. Joe Mixon renv well what six yesterday? And
they ran yesterday and he and I was shocked. This
is a team, the Chargers that yielded like, what seventeen
points a game? They gave up thirty two yesterday in
the thirty two to twelve loss. It was completely it
was just everything that you never thought would happened to
the Chargers. And four INT's for Justin Herbert that to me, well,

(15:40):
you had to be shot. I know you were shocked
with the results. You had to be yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Shot As a results based on how both of those
teams entered the postseason, the teams that were playing better
would I would say, like the Chargers were playing better
coming into it. But the playoffs are not necessarily about
making plays. It's about avoiding the negative plays. It's about
minimizing your mistakes. Justin Herbert's four interceptions, even though we

(16:08):
can say they all weren't him. They were bobbled passes, mispasses, drops,
all those things that led to the interceptions he's credited
with those. Anytime you have four turnovers, you have a
hard time winning. It's hard to win in the regular season.
When you have turnovers in the postseason, it's magnified because
there's so the emotional swings that come with the ups

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and downs of those mistakes, and it cost them. The
turnovers cost them. It gave the Texans life because remember
the first quarter and a half, it was a six
to zero game for the Chargers. They had control of
the game, and then you started to see the turnovers,
and the turnovers completely flipped the way this game was going.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Will you talk about turnovers? That's how the game started
for the Houston Texans. They fumbled the ball on the
first play from scrimmage. They were losing three nothing after
the field go by the Chargers on the opening drive.
After that, then the Texans game get this just fifty
four yards and their first five possessions and had three
punts on those possessions. Gay then they had an interception
and then another fumble. That's how they started the game.

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Then all of a sudden CJ. Stroud, it was like
pop bye with spinach. It's unbelievable. It came out finished
with a strong game twenty two for thirty three for
two to eighty two, a touchdown and your guy Nico
Collins won twenty two, had a touchdown, seven catches. I
mean it was it was a different team in the
second half.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
Yeah, they were a different team. And you talk about
the importance of the running game and Joe Mixon, what
Joe Mixon has been able to provide. You talk about CJ.
Stroud finding his stride, having almost three hundred yards even
though he had the early interception, he began to show
some of the playmaking in those things that made us
really expect him to take an even bigger leap as

(17:51):
a sophomore to really knock on the door and become
an elite quarterback. Didn't materialize this season, but we saw
the flashes and then the defense really standing up. The
one thing that we have to give the Texans credit
for is the job that they do with their defense
under Demico Ryans. The energy that they played with, the physicality,
the relentlessness they carried the Texans early into the offense

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was able to kind of slam the door. It'd be
interesting to see this team if they are, If they
are the team that goes on in plays to Kansas
City Chiefs. I think we can expect an interesting battle
between two young quarterbacks. And you know, it's just it's
gonna come down to the same thing that these games
were decided on, turnovers, dominance, and being able to control

(18:35):
a lot of scrimmage.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
And I would say, if it were to ask me,
why did the Houston Texas win, how did they win?
They held the Chargers to like four point eight yards
per play. That to me is defense. It's unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Me.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
He's one hell of a coach. I mean, he's one
heck of a coach. He really is, and I don't
think he gets the credit he deserves. A matter of fact,
he was getting some criticism this year because they thought
that t should do better than they did a year ago.
You know, everything worked out and they may go deep
in the playoffs. The way they played last night, they
should like.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
This was a team that was expected to be a
Super Bowl contender, didn't start out like that, so we
naturally kind of jumped off the bandwagon. I was one
of the main ones that jump off the bandwagon. But
what we saw last night, this team against the Chargers,
they show they have the jews, they have some potential.
They can be a thorn in the side. I still
worry because they're almost like a bit of a one

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man show, maybe a one and a half man show
in the passing game with Nico Collins having a shoulder
like like a big part of the load. But if
they can run the football with Joe Mixon, if they
can play this type of defense they played against the Chargers. Man,
you can't count this team out against anybody.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
You know, And you said you had some criticism against
this team, and you and should and you should have
And I'll tell you why. You look at the schedule.
The Texas had not really beaten a quality opponent. Well, yeah,
they beat the Buffalo Bills in weeks after that. You
look air all the wins they've had Indianapolis, I mean
losing teams, and I know it's the schedule they play,
but they had not beaten the quality opponent all year long.
So I think people were thinking that there's no chance

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on Earth. And the defensive play that the Chargers had
done coming in, I think a lot of people were
rooting for the Chargers and Harbaugh. You know, they made
a big deal of the fact that he won the
Michigan game last year in the same stadium and it
was a whooped dee do and so what you know,
didn't mean squat didn't mean a thing. It really didn't.
But here's the question right now, what's next? Okay, the

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Texans obviously moving on to the divisional round. Did a
number four seed that the opponent in the next round, Obviously,
I think it's still a question werk because now this
is just speculation. Now if the Bills and the Ravens
did win. But if the Bills win, because the Ravens
did win, the Houston Texans will face the Chiefs. Now,
if only one of the Bills, will Ravens win. So

(20:53):
so far, the Ravens did win, the Texans will face
that team that wins. And both the Texans and Ravens lose. Well,
the Texans won, the Texans will face the Stealers will
they they lost? So it's I'm just waiting to see
what happens, all right, because it's a little too complicated
for me. You know, you have to have, like, you know,
a triple digit IQ, which I don't all right, so

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iHeartRadio app. All right, let's get into this college football
playoff because left some people empty. A lot of people
thought there were one sided games. A lot of people
thought their teams should have been in there. Some people
thought some teams didn't deserve the shot. Not so in
the final four, there were some great games, not perhaps
none better than the Ohio State Texas game, The Orange Bowl,

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The drama, the storylines, Texas quarterback Quin Ewers, the former
Buck guy who transferred to Texas, and his former college roommate,
Unreal defensive end Jack Sowyer. Let me do this, Buck,
let me just kind of reminisce what happened on a
fourth and goal just over two minutes left on the
Texas eight. All right town eight yard line. Texas needed

(23:10):
one play now the ty to score potentially force overtime. Instead,
Jack Sawyer ended the Longhorn season. He got right past
the Cameron Williams the right tackle, went towards the Texas
quarterback and form a roommate, Quinn Viewers. They were freshmen
together at the Ohio State. He crashed into you his back.
The ball popped loose and bounced around Sawyer scooped it up.

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He raced something like eighty three yards for a touchdown.
And believe me, they're still talking about it in Columbus,
Ohio as the Buck guys win and they're going to
play Notre Dame in the championship game next Monday. They
win twenty eight to fourteen over Texas. What a game.
Tremendous game, Yeah, tremendous game.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
You know, it's funny because the way that the game
started saw Ohio State kind of jump out and do
what they've done throughout the postseason, which is explosive plays
on offense, just big plays, explosive plays. They've been able
to kind of create those in a few different ways.
And Texas did a really good job of taking Jeremiah Smith.
He was a non factor for the game. They played zone,

(24:13):
they wanted to keep the ball in front, but the
running game kind of propelled Ohio State at various times.
And then defensively, Ohio State went away from some of
the things that they've done in terms of like playing
man demand of whatever, really played zone, dared quinn Ewers
to make tight window throws, tested his patients and his
discipline in those things, and they rewarded with some turnovers.

(24:35):
It was just a really good game. And I would
say this, it wasn't the dominant version of Ohio State
that we saw the first two rounds where we talked
about this was the team that we expected to see.
But at the end of the day, they're here in
the National Championship game going against Notre Dame. If you're
a part of Bucket Nation, I don't know how you
can be disappointed in that right.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
And you talk about Sawyer, who kind of had the
eighty three touchdown guy. He intercepted Michigan quarterback Davis Warren
in the fourth quarter in that Michigan game when the
score was tied, But the Buckeyes didn't come back to
score in that one. They lost to Michigan. So they
got a heck of a team. I mean It's going
to be a great final game. I'm looking forward to it.
But sometimes you get disappointed when you kind of get

(25:17):
all hyped up for these games and it could be
a blowout. But I don't think it will be. But
you know, I'm going to go back now. I'm going
to talk about the Penn State game. Penn State reached
the college football players for the first time. They lose
twenty seven to twenty fourth to Notre Dame. Notre Dame
knocked them out on Thursday night. Penn State rushed for
two hundred four yards in the first half, only sixty
three in the second half. James Franklin, here's the story

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on this one right now. And LaVar Arrington, I apologize.
I know you're a Penn State lover. You played for them,
you were an All American there, But damn, James Franklin
four and twenty against teams in the top ten. It's
unbelievable for Penn State. They finished the season eleven to one.
That one loss was to Ohio State. James Franklin four
and seventeen against Ohio State and Michigan. How does that happen?

(26:01):
I mean, you're better than that. This is a team
that when the season starts every year, there's such high
hopes for the Nitly Lions and they just they fizzle out.
I don't get it. He's four and twenty against teams
in the top ten.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
Okay, I love when people bring up that stat because
my contention would be, what is everybody else against the
top ten? Are there people with like significant winning records
against top ten opponents.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
In the playoffs? Though?

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Right? So to get his team into the playoffs, I
think he certainly deserves that part of it. And the
way the Big Ten used to be until this year,
he was on the tough side of the bracket where
he had to go through Ohio State and Michigan to
get into the championship game. This gave them a chance
to get there, even though they didn't reach it. But
to be in this point, I think you have to

(26:50):
give them credit. Everyone points to the Michigan Ohio State thing,
but I think Michigan and Ohio State the last four
years they've been two of the best teams in the country.
Did we believe that Penn State was deserving of being
in that class? Because I'm kind of confused when people
really go at Penn State and James Franklin because I'm like, well,

(27:11):
did we expect him to be a perennial national championship
team when they haven't done that in the past forty years,
Like even with Joe pa at the end of his tenure,
Penn State has never been that kind of team. So
why do we have these expectations that Penn State is
supposed to be up there? Until James Franklin raised him
to that point. Bill O'Brien didn't raise them up to

(27:32):
that point. Coming out of the fall out of the scandal,
James Franklin had to pick them up and make them
a relevant title contender. Again. Yes, he has to get
over the top, but man, you're sitting here in the
semi finals an opportunity to go if not for a
bad interception, but Drew Aller, I mean, Penn State has
taking Notre Dame into overtime with an opportunity to go

(27:53):
to the Natty. I just know how you can be
disappointed with that.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
If you're Penn State, I will say this, I'm glad
you brought the Joe Pass situation. Back in the day
when Joe Paul was there, Penn State was an independent.
I think there's an advantage to being an independent, and
maybe not Ja Dame certainly has that bit of an advantage. Perhaps,
I don't know. I can't figure that out. I mean,
it's great for me to speculate that, but I think
playing in a conference, like a killer conference like they're

(28:17):
in right now, a killer conference like the SEC. Where's
the SEC in the Final four? Where's the SEC in
the championship game? Texas was the loan SEC team and
they're new to the SEC. They're not a long time
SEC members. So I think being an independent may be
an advantage.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
Well yeah, I mean James Strengthen alluded to that at
the presser leading up into the game, where we talked
about Notre Dame's independent status and not being in a
conference and how they may have some benefits by not
having to go through the gauntlet that some teams have
to go through, whether it's the SEC or the Big Ten.
Notre Dame doesn't have to do that. Granted, they have

(28:55):
a very competitive schedule. They had some teams that were
expected to be power house on their schedule and it
didn't materialize. USC wasn't the team that some of us expected.
They played Army and Navy two teams that were double
digit win teams, and they dispatched both of them. And
even with the loss in Northern Illinois, they bounced back
and they've won a million games in a row, which

(29:17):
is a testament to them. Yeah, the independent status helps
Notre Dame. I can't say that they are in the
finals because of their independent status, but yeah, Penn State
benefited from a long time by being outside of the
conference world. But now they're in it, and so with
that comes a different level of scheduling and there's no

(29:37):
doubt a tough run.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Look, I'm not taking anything away from Joe Pitho. It
was a great coach. I love them, I really did.
But you know, when they were independent, they were playing
Boston College. It was weak. They were playing Temple. They
were playing a lot of garbage. They really were, and
that's how they rolled up the wins they were. I mean,
you look at the schedule. I mean Temple a little
bit of a run about seven eight years ago, but
that's basically it. But I got a questionable play. I
wrote this down for you. Okay, Penn State got the

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ball back on the fifteen yard line about thirty eight
seconds left. The game was tied at twenty four, James
Franklin decided to go for the win instead of playing
for overtime. Okay, I get it, he's a gambler. Okay.
After a twenty three yard run by Nick Singleton, the quarterback,
Jueller threw a pass across the middle. It was intercepted
by Notre Dames Christian Gray. The Iris drew up to
Penn State's twenty three and mitched Geta kicked the game

(30:23):
winning field goal. But but Penn State had two players
standing about twenty yards back from the line of scrimmage
protecting against a fake, a fake instead of going for
the block. And look, Gina's the guy that missed two
field goals and Notre Dames lost to Northern Illinois. He
made the field goal, that was the game. Why would
you think there's going to be a fake? I don't understand.

(30:44):
Why do you have those guys They should all be
on the line of scrimmage trying to block the field goal.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
We depends on if the guy has struggled from distance
in the past, and if you believe that it was
at the fringes of his range, maybe you can't talk
yourself into thinking that a to fake alert. Let's just
make sure we don't get skunked here and give up
a fake field goal, touchdown or anything like that. That
has to be something that he must have been thinking about.

(31:09):
And let's be honest, Notre Dame has been killing it
on special teams throughout the postseason. They've done all different
types of funny stuff or whatever, and so maybe in
taking that precaution, he's like, the odds of us getting
through blocking the kick are not great. Let's make sure
we protect against any funny stuff and make the kicker
make the kick. He made the kick, which is the difference.

(31:30):
He made the kick, and you know, you have to
live with the result. But I'm sure he was like,
I am not going to get goat on a fake
attempt because this team is put on tape throughout the
playoffs that they will take some risk in the kicking.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Are Yeah, And the kid Jita did miss two field
goals in the loss against Northern Illinois, but that's that's
like in a different century right now, that's months ago.
You know, things change, they really do. But I'm happy,
you know it's funny kid athletes redeem themselves think about that.
I'm sure this kid was like his picture was like
in every storefront in South Bend, Indiana after that game. Really,

(32:06):
Mitch Jeter, now all of a sudden, he's a hero.
Isn't that crazy? It really is. I mean, you to threats.
These kids get it. It's not even normal when you
think about it, but they do. That's what happens. Fans
are crazy.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
I mean, look, without question, fans are absolutely bananas. You
know what I mean this is this is a part
of the deal. They are bananas when it comes to
some of that stuff. But yeah, it was a great
redemption story. He made a big time kick and there's
notre dame team. You know, you just got to give
them credit, man for battling it out. They were getting

(32:41):
dominated early in the game by Penn State. Uh, they
found a way to reset everything at halftime, came back
and put themselves in a position to take over the game.
It is it is uncommon to see a team in
a playoff game do a complete role reversal and to
own it. They dominate in the second half, and they

(33:01):
deserve to win based on their dominance. But that interception
at the end was critical, and it comes at a
time when look, there's buzz trying to be created about
Drew Aller as a NFL top prospected quarterback. Don't quite
see it me. I don't quite see it like that.
But there were people that were buzzing about him and

(33:22):
how he could be a guy that if he gets
hot in the postseason, he can get into the first
round and maybe challenge shaduor Sanaders and Kim Ward and
those guys. But the guy that I saw against Notre Dame, look,
I can't say that I saw a guy who had
NFL written all over him. They didn't complete a pass
to a wide out first time in twenty seasons. They
finished the game without a completion to a wide receiptsbelieve

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that is unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Yeah, if they would have told you that befoot again,
you wouldn't believe them. Really, you wouldn't believed them. But
let me leave you with this the best stat I
had seen on social media.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
Get this.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Notre Dame coach Marcus Freeman has more wins against top
five teams in the last eight days than James Franklin
has in his entire time at Penn State. I know
it's a shop, but still pretty creative when you think
about it.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
Yeah, very creative.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Okay, I'm a James Franklin. I never met the man,
but he looks like a gentleman, you know what I mean.
He looks like a real nice man, like the type
of guy you wouldn't mind playing for. I think it's
a hard working coach is a successful coach, and you know,
you get knocked around when you lose games. That's the
nature of the business. O.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
No, no, no, let me be clear. Now he brings
some of it on about himself. Now he has an
arrogance or a cockiness to him, stubbornness that makes you
that makes you you hate him. But the common thread
between a lot of successful coaches is they have that

(34:51):
they have that what I call that competitive air against
that athletic ar against the stubbornness where there can they
have a conviction about what they're doing one and why
they do it and how they do it, and they
don't budge off of that. That's what makes them great
and they're willing to stand in and I'm sure he'll
stand in there with the criticism in those things. But
I will say the secret sauce to Penn State's success

(35:14):
has been the upgrade and talent that they are bringing
in in the James Franklin era. They have these dynamic
athletes that they have recruited that they're bringing in that
will star next month at the NFL Combine, and it
is giving them an opportunity to go toe to toe
with the heavyweights. They may not win, but they certainly
take those heavyweights to distance, and that is progressed for

(35:36):
a university that desperately wants to get win another national title.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Here we go. He's Bucky Brooks and Andy Firmer. We
are Fox Football Sunday at Foxbuts Radio. It's time now
for some real answers. It's Bucky. It's next listen.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
No Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
All right, it is that time. It's Bucky right around
the corner. About ten minutes before the top of the hour.
This is Fox Football Sunday, a Foxbut's right. Let's do it.
It's time for as Bucky. Here we go, all right, Bucky.
U CLA basketball coach Mick Cronin he called his team
that dreaded soft word. He did it publicly after they
lost to Michigan the other day. Have you ever heard
a coach call his or her team soft publicly?

Speaker 3 (36:18):
Yeah? I mean we saw we saw Gerard Mayo call
this team soft, and he now is looking for a job.
I mean, this is this is what happens. Coaches called
their teams soft when they don't feel like they respond
with the requisite toughness mentally or physically to win at
a high level. That's why UCLA's Mick Cronan is at
his guys. He doesn't believe they're bringing the effort every day.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
Yeah, and they came back and they lost to Maryland.
And after they lost to Maryland, he was criticizing the officials.
He's got to calm Dino Mick. I know when he
coached University of Cincinnati. He's like a firecracker. He really
is going to calm down Lim He's gonna explode. He
will just take it easy MC. Really. Now, next, the
question really isn't who the NFL MVP should be or
is because it's going to be Lamar Jackson. Here's the

(37:02):
real question. Does Eli Manning belong in the Pro Football
Hall of Fame?

Speaker 3 (37:10):
Man This is a tough one for him because I
don't believe he's a Hall of Famer. I know he's
a two time Super Bowl winner, but there is nothing
about Eli Manning that I ever felt like he was
a top five quarterback in the league over time. During
his time in the league, I never felt like he
was a top five quarterback. The Hall of Fame is

(37:33):
supposed to be for the greats, the guys that you fear,
the guys that are renowned. He has two rings, and
so you can't dispute that. But I mean to me,
he hasn't done enough to really be worthy of being
a Hall of Fame player.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
I can't believe that he may get in. And Ken Anderson,
who played for the Bengals, can't and he was an MVP.
That I can't believe. And Ken Anderson's stats kill Eli
Manning stats. But I guess his name is Manny, and
he played in New York and he did beat the
New England Patriots and the Super Bowl. So that's the key, right.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
I mean that is that that certainly helps.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
It certainly helps.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
But man Yeah, if you ask me just on the
strength of his performance over time, nah, I never would.
I never would say he's all the Famer.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
There you go. Now, how can the Atlanta Falcons be
content with Kirk Cousins as that quarterback? And three next year?

Speaker 3 (38:29):
I mean, look, they can be content with him as
their backup quarterback. That's what they've talked about. They talked
about him being QB two, which you know, you don't
think that you can pay one hundred and sixty million
dollars for the second second stream quarterback. But if they're
willing to live with it, okay, that's fine. It's a
little weird, but it's certainly something that can be done.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
All right. Here's a little bit of a complicated thing
that I have going on in my head. Why do
NFL people think that assistant coaches will make good head coaches.
You know, if you're a good teacher in school does
not mean you're going to be a good principal, the
Peter principal. You know what I'm saying. Example, Ben Jonson
with the Lions. He's been touted right now as the
next great head coach. Baseball doesn't do this with coaches.

(39:12):
They don't make great coaches managers, all right, So why
are they doing it in the NFL. I don't get it.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
Yeah, you know, I don't know, man. I think what
I've found is that no one really knows why they
do what they do in the NFL. When it comes
to head coaches, it's the hot name, and a lot
of it is influenced by what broadcasters say in the
course of games. Ben Johnson is a high candidate because
everyone loves the kind of plays that he has. But
if you're not bringing Detroit's culture in Detroit's weapons, you're

(39:43):
not guaranteed to get those same results. And so it's
a lot more to it than just calling plays. The
head coach has to be the guy that sets the
culture and all those things, and so you've got to
dig down see if his personality allows him to do that.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Yeah, and a little of tail under that question, why
is Mike Vrabel like that the main guy? Now, he's
like the everybody wants.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
I mean, it's the same thing. You know. It's funny
because we talk about how great he is and he's
really good coach, but when you look at his record,
it hasn't been that. But we'll see he's a prodigal
son having a chance to go back home.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
All right, NFL's top coaches, we'll tell you who they
are coming up next on Fox Now visit the top
minds in the league, and they're coming right up. Good morning, everybody,
This is Fox football Sunday on Fox Sports.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
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Bucky Brooks, my friend, how are you? How's everything? You're
safe and sound, The family's good. The fires are burning.
We pray for these people. The devastation is terrible. We
try to like lighten it up for them for at

(40:52):
least an hour or so on a Sunday.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
Yeah, and it is. The devastation is terrible. It's sad
to see so much of historic la in ruins. But
you hope that the city of Angels bounces back, and
you hope that all of the people who have been
either evacuated or displaced from their homes are able to
find shelter, they able to kind of start the process
of building their life back. But it's tough. It's tough

(41:15):
to watch. It's tough to have a bunch of friends
who are going through it. But you can only pray
for them and help them in the way.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
And thank you to the people of Colorado and Nevada
and even Mexico who have come with helicopters or whatever
to help put out these fires. I've been reading about
that and seeing that on TV, So thank you to
those people, you know, trying to make that effort. I
know the NFL. I mean I watched the games yesterday
to make a donation of that NFL dot Com. I mean,
it's pretty big that people are getting involved all over
as they should.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
Yeah, everyone being involved trying to bring back the city.
So it's good to see.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
That's great. Okay, now let's talk about what you did.
Because you're a writer, you're a scout, you're a form
of player. NFL dot Com I love it on Friday
you have that. I don't go to the Fox one
as much as the NFL dot com one, which you
ranked the top five coaching staffs in the NFL this week.
First of all, I want to know how you made
your decisions, because I got a couple of beasts with
you on this, because a couple of teams have been

(42:10):
left out, so I don't know how are these decisions
made by wins and losses, or by maybe developing players,
or by maybe building a staff. How do you do it?

Speaker 3 (42:20):
I think the easiest way to do it is to
look at the head coach, offense, defensive, and special teams
coordinators and see which teams you believe give their teams
the biggest advantage on game day. And I try to
keep it as simple as that. We can talk about
everyone has good coaches in those things, but it's those
three coaches working in unison to make sure that the
game plan is followed through, carried out, and that the

(42:42):
game plan compliments every phase of the team to allow
the team to win. And when you throw the ego
aside and don't worry about the yards and that kind
of production, just focus on how the team is operated.
Are they executing? Are they living up to what you've
kind of put out there for and there do you
feel great about it?

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Okay? There's a couple of things when I watch NFL
games that drive me insane. Number One, one of these
announcers say the guy is running downhill. There's no hills
on the football field.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Number Two, they want to move to change now, just
say he's going to get a first down. So you know,
those terms made me nuts. But there's another one that
really draws me crazy. Is the term culture. All right,
help me out here, what exactly the means when they
say a guy comes to a team, a new coach
comes in, changes the culture. Okay, I will tell you
this much. I follow sports for a long time, and
then you played the game, and you know what it's

(43:31):
all about. I've seen various teams win, and I don't
think there was great culture in that locker room. But
everybody had a purpose to win and do their one thing.
But they hated one another. You know, Shaq and Kobe
didn't get along, but they won. Okay, the culture couldn't
have been that good. The Bronx Zoo with the New
York Yankees, culture probably was not good, but they won,

(43:53):
all right. Now, there were teams like the Pittsburgh Pirates. Okay,
we are family. Maybe the culture was good. So I
think that term culture is really overrated. These people use
that term, they have no idea what it's all about.
Ninety nine percent of the people that use it never
played the game. I never played the game, but I
was somewhat close to the game, being a pr guy
with pro teams so I see the locker rooms, what's

(44:14):
going on.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
I mean, I see your point, and I understand it
has been a buzzword that's been overused. However, I believe
it's still the most important thing that is required to win.
Your culture, your locker room, your share, shared belief system
has to be intact and has to be adhere to
if you're going to win at the highest level. If

(44:37):
you just looked at Black Monday, Last Monday was Black
Monday all the coaches that were released, and so it
also served as exit interviews for all the players. Last
time the players would talk to the media and those things.
And there were multiple teams where this came out New
York Giants, Miami Dolphins, Chicago Bears, where they talked about disciplining,

(44:57):
in details and accountability. All of those things are part
of establishing your culture. Discipline. Can we show up on time?
Can we do exactly what we're supposed to do, how
we're supposed to do it, when we're supposed to do it.
That is part of the culture that's established, where there's
a level of expectation or there's a standard that you
have to meet. When I hear these teams and obviously

(45:18):
all of them are losing teams have the same common
denominators when it comes to lack of commitment and accountability
and trust in those things, it tells you that the
head coach is not created a culture, a championship caliber
culture that can sustain itself. And so, even though it's overblown,
it is the biggest part of the postle when it
comes to building a championship team.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
And I'll counter that by saying, sure, they had the
excellent deviews with the members of the New York Football Giants,
and every one of those players were blaming the coaching staff.
They wouldn't take any credit or responsibility on themselves that
they stunk, they didn't play. But I kept Brian Dabo.
They didn't fire the coach in New York. So if
it was that bad and the culture was in fact,
as you say that, because the players are complaining, why

(46:01):
didn't they fire.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
Him because ownership doesn't like to change. The New York
Giants are very similar to the Pittsburgh Stellers and the
Green Bay Package, some of these small market teams where
they just looked once they signed you, they trust you
to do your job. However many uses and then they'll
come back and revisit it. I think for the Giants,
Brian day Ball and his curried favorite because he was one.

(46:24):
He was once a Coach of the Year, and the
owner talked about with he's been coach of the year,
he has to be good. He does not going to
go for me and coach of the year to being
completely a bum, And so they wanted to give them
the benefit of doubt. But I will tell you this,
and I'm saying this, and I'm saying this with this disclaimer.
Joe Shane is a friend of mine. We worked together
in Carolina. But when you read some of the accounts

(46:46):
that was just in the ESPN dot com piece where
they talked about the Giants, and they talked about how
they just took these hard stances on some players and
underestimated the value of the players in the locker room,
asking a young player to take a pay cut a
week of a game after you've already made the team,
and how he was gonna get him, and I'm gonna
get you, and I'm gonna fire you and all this

(47:07):
other stuff. The team doesn't trust each other, that's why
they can't win. So that's also a part of the culture.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
Okay, so they keep the coach. I get it because
it's kind of like, you know, the ownership is that way.
It's like in Pittsburgh they have what three coaches in
the last fifty years. I mean, they don't fire coaches.
And the same with the Cincinati Bengals, a family run
operation with the Mara family in New York with the Giants.
But the thing is they'll keep the coach, but they
get rid of si Quon Barkley. Think about that? Does

(47:35):
that make any sense? I mean, come on, do you
how do you miss that deal? I mean what he
did for them a year ago? How do you miss that?

Speaker 3 (47:44):
I mean, I mean yeah, I mean yeah, that's that's hard.
I don't know how you miss it.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
I don't know any buddy that is Shane Att. You know,
when you're out with him one day, give him a
call or whatever, say, look, you know it's Sae Kwon Barkley.
I mean, did you did you know?

Speaker 3 (47:59):
Here's the thing and this is another thing and I
just tweeted it. I posted I wrote a thing on
Fox this week about the return of the running back.
We went through a period where everyone said you don't
need to invest in a running back. You don't have
to do this. You can get him anywhere running backs
or a diamond dozen. YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA YadA. That
was the conversation. Don't use a first round pick on

(48:20):
a running back is not worth it. Okay, let's look
at Bejehn Robinson and Jamier Gibbs and the impact that
they had on their respective teams. But really, let's dig
into the postseason and talk about the value of the
running back. Josh Jacob's playing well, Sakwan Barkley doing what
he does for the Philadelphia Eagles, Jay Henry who we
saw last night. All of those guys, and Joe Shane

(48:42):
is not a believer in paying the running back. He
didn't want to pay ze Kwan. Unfortunately for him, he
goes down the street to arrival and rushes for two
thousand yards. That's a lot of egg on.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Your face and I mean close to next to you.
If they don't make the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
Oh, it's one hundred percent going to cost him. Luckily,
he was able to get through it this year, but
it will cost him next year. If the Giants aren't better,
they will look back at that Saquan thing and the
fact that it was on inside hard knocks where the
cameras are there, and he was so smug and dismissive,
right of Yeah, man, it's not a great look. It's

(49:17):
not a great look.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
Not really a to Saquon's credit. You know, he didn't
come back at him, you know what I mean. I
mean he took the high road, which is nice. He
could have said, I could have been doing this for you. No.
I mean, he's going to create his own legacy in Philadelphia,
and you know, he may win a Super Bowl ring
with the Eagles, so we'll see.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
Yeah he might. But he certainly has become the big
part of their office. Destratusters to drink, for sure, no.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Doubt about that. Okay, before we get into these top
coaching staffs, what about clubs that don't permit a head
coach to select their staff. In other words, you could
get a head coach fired, they bring in a new
head coach, but they keep the remaining assistance that's happened before.
So well, how do you judge that. I mean, that happens,
doesn't it.

Speaker 3 (50:04):
I mean, look, there have been some instances where they've
advised in a perfect world, man, when you hire a coach.
You want the coach to coach. You're not trying to
necessarily make the NFL like Major League Baseball, where the
manager in some ways is a figurehead for the analytics
crew that are kind of operating a puppet show where

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they're doing everything, but they give the line of card
to the manager, so he has to be the face
of it. No, the NFL is different. You got their
real coaches. He has to be able to trust the
people around them, and you cannot always just throw anybody
in a room and say, hey, y'all gonna be the
coaching staff, go get it done. There's a vetting out
processing period that must happen. You have to ask him,
do they see ball the same way that you see

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ball in terms of the vision of how championship teams
operate in those things? And so there are a lot
of things that come to it. I don't know if
you can entrust ownership a fully higher staff unless they're
deeply entrenched in the game and they know so many
people that they can get legitimate answers on who's good
and who's not.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
But I'm sure there have been some NFL clubs that
acts the head coach bringing a new head coach, but
keep the remaining assistance.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
I mean there have been some people that have had
some holdovers in those things, like yeah, there're people that
are that are tried, but typically it's hard. Let's see.
I vividly remember Barry Switzer stepping in UH to replace
Jimmy Johnson in Dallas. They won a Super Bowl, but
the culture changed with Barry compared to Jimmy Johnson because

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they're different people. They have different belief systems, different ways
of operating.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
You know, it's funny, It really is funny. Okay, let's
get into this right now. Speaking of Barry Switzer. It's
funny you mentioned it, but I don't know why. About
a month ago, I used to live in Oklahoma and
he used to call me Yankee or something from New York,
and I called him. I mean, he must be ninety
something years old, and I had his number because a
four or five area coach I knew it was him,

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called him up and like the first ring, and then
he answered and he hung up on me because didn't
know who it was, and then he said, hell, hell
are you. It was unbelievable that he remembered Yeah, because
I worked at all Roberts and there was a big deal.
I used to go to the Oklahoma games. But he
was a good guy. I like Berry Swizzer. He was
a character, he really was. You don't get characters much anymore. Coaching, however,
we move on. No surprise here, you're the best coaching stamps.

(52:28):
You picked the Kansas City Chiefs and then he read
you know, it's hard to argue against that. However, I
will say this, I'm gonna punch a little hole in
your dike here. Defensive coordinat Steve Spagnolo tremendous. He was
even good with the Giants. He's been wherever he's been. However,
he was a head coach one time, didn't do well,
didn't farewell as a head coach. So again, the question
is the Peter principal. If you're good in one slot

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may not mean you're going to be good at the
next level doing something else. You know, again, if you're
a good high school teacher, you may not be a
good high school principal. You know, stay in your lane.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
Yeah, I mean that is very true and unfortunate for us.
The outside world we see head coaches as kind of
being a pilgrimage, right, you make your journey from position
coach to coordinator, coordinator to head coach. That's the rite
of passage. But that doesn't mean that you're necessarily prepared
to be the head coach. The head coach is completely

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different than anything that a coordinator will do. Coordinator is
drawn a place. He's managing his side of the team,
but he's not standing in front of the entire team
and putting it all together. The head coach not only
has to put it all together in terms of all
three phases working together to compliment one another. He has
to make some tough roster decisions on who's up and

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who's down. He has to figure out whether he wants
to practice inside or outside. He has to do a
lot of different stuff before you even get to the ballpark.
And without being able to delegate your time, without being
able to have a strong supporting staff that you can
believe in. Man, it's too much work. It's too much work,
and it takes away from the main thing. Got to
keep the main thing the main thing. And sometimes when

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you move up to the head coaching role, yeah, that
goes by the wayside.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
Yeah, And I would think that you're an assistant coach
or a coordinator. You're just so zeroed in on your
area with the blinders on. When you're a head coach,
you have to not only oversee everything, you got to
spend so much time dealing with the media. You got
those Monday news conferences, you got the midweek Wednesday news conferences.
And that's what basically you are. You're the spokesperson for

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the team and really and truly trying to do game planning.
It's tough, it really is. I mean, and I think
a lot of these assistant coaches they just want to
get involved with football and they just as soon not
talk to media people. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's just
the way it is. And again I feel bit about
my buddy Louis Narumo. He was the scapegoat for the
Cincinnati Bengals. I mean, two years ago he was getting

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interviewed for head coaching jobs all over the league. Now
he's looking for a job. Just just the way it
is the National Football League, you know.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
Just the way it is. Man. That's why you better
get a job when you're hot. That's why Ben Johnson
and Aaron Glenn and all those guys. When we on
the house, I say, oh, I should wait for a
better job. No no, no, no, no. You better get
the best job that you would now get during the
cycle because it's no guaranteed that you can maintain it.
And the hardest thing to do in this league is
to be consistent when it comes to your performance and

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your production. We're seeing that. That's why there are always
five to six new teams in the playoffs every year.
It's hard to do, but that is kind of the standard.
And if you don't have that long track record of success,
people can go back and say, what's the difference in
doing some of them here elsewhere? Like that's that's the
dilemit that you're always in.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Exactly right. I don't want to go through every single one,
but I'm going to just go to number two because
this guy, Kevin O'Connell, the coach of Minnesota vikis he
may very well be the coach of the year because
I don't think anybody expected anything to begun in Minnesota
this year. Sam Donald right now quarterbacking. Look, I mean,
here's a guy got to be the comeback player of
the year. I got to believe that, right.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
I Mean, I don't know what he's coming back from
in terms of injury. But yeah, okay, if you want
to take it away.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Did this is it injury when you say come back?
I mean, but flack On wanted but he didn't have injury,
came off the couch and he got cole play.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
I mean, I mean it just should be for injury
in those things. But I mean, I don't mind Sam Donald.
He's an honor to be recognized for, you know, having
a phenomenal year. So if he gets come back Play
of the Year, I won't blink. I think Joe Burrow
may have an issue with it, but it's fine. Joe
can be Okay, He's gonna win plenty of awards. Kevin
O'Connell is great because Kevin O'Connell gets the big picture right.

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He's one of those guys that can understand the macro
while also understanding the micro. He understands the big picture,
but can do the things on a daily basis to
make sure that the small things are always taken care of.
He combined with Brian floor is Man, they're terrific strategists,
tacticians UH excellent with the X and os and they

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find a way to not only UH out Pelcier with
their opponents with the x's and o's. They pelcled with
them while putting their best players in positions to make plays.
That's evident. That's why they're there. That's right there. Number
two in the ranks.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
Okay, number three, no surprise. If Dan Campbell what he's done.
You talk about culture, He did basically change the so
called culture of the Lions. I mean they were like
the doormatch of the league for years. Number four. You
got a clown over there, Nick Siriana, you got a
number four. I mean, come on, I mean Cloud.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
I think he's a cloud show.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
Yeah, yes, yes, Cloud, come on, I mean, come on, really, Okay.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
The clown has only won seventy more than seventy percent
of his game since being the head coach of the
Philadelphia Eagles. It might be the active leader when it
comes to uh win percentage in those things. They go
to the playoffs, they dominated in the playoff they dominated
under his watch, and he has Big Fangio with him
and Kellen Moore. You may not like Kellen Moore because

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Kellen Moore was probably calling plays of your favorite team,
the Dallas Cowboys. Some people that are listening will say that,
But then you look at the change that he's made
from how he called the game in Dallas to the
way he called a game in LA to what he's
doing in Philly. He's maximizing the playmaking ability of the
quarterback while elevating the supporting cast into opportunity, prime opportunity

(58:22):
positions to make plays. And they were big fang you
one defense, jay Leen Carter playing like a beast. They
got a bunch of young guys in the secondary that
are killing it. You can say a lot about the field,
their vehicles, but they certainly deserve to be in this list.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
All right, And you got Green Bay bringing up the
rear top five. Okay, I'll leave you with that, but look,
I want to ask you, and we'll continue with this
for a few more minutes in the next segment. What
about the forty nine Ers coaching staff, the Chargers commanders,
the Ravens. I mean, how do you leave them out?
We'll get to that and so much more. He's Bucket Brooks,
get him on X at Bucket Brooks had Andy from

(58:57):
an FSR. Mike Harmon joins us in the next hour.
That'll be at Swollen Dome. If you want to join us,
if you're upset that Bucky left your team out and
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We got bottom barrel betting on this album right now.

Speaker 4 (59:13):
This is the.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
NFL's true underdog. We'll tell you who next. They're not
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a couple of questions before we roll into some of
the games that are being played today. We talk about

(59:55):
the best coaching staffs in the National Football League and
Bucky Brooks had him on NFL dot Com Kandasy the Minnesota, Detroit, Philadelphia,
and Green Bay top five. Now I want to know
why the Ravens aren't up there, Bucket Brooks.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
Because at the time Zach Or early in year, the
defensive coordinator was not up to snuff. Their defense wasn't
playing at a high level. I like Todd munkt but
I can't say that Toddmunkin is one of the best
offensive coordinators and ball and despite everything that we love
about John Harbaugh, there are some questions about game management.
So that's why couldn't creck the top five? All right?

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
What about the forty nine is called Shanahan. He's got
a track record, doesn't He had a ton of injuries
this year with the forty nine.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
I mean they have a tounch of injuries every year.
He has four losing seasons in eight years. Andy, I mean,
like we feel good about that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
He needs to go to do training staff. That's what
he needs to do.

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
Really, that's what he does what he needs to do.
So yeah, so I'm I worry about that part of
the situation when it comes to it, like they're just
not they're not getting it done in that regard. So
that that's why I got two.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
More possibilities for you. What about the charges with Jim
Harbaugh could be on the verge, on the.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
Close close, no cigar, I can't can't give it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
To last, not least Washington commanders a bit of a surprise, maybe.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
A bit of surprise. But I would say most people
don't even know who the decoordinators. And I liked your
with I mean, I'm I'm just saying like, so, I
just need more time. I feel like Washington is more
of a one man show. So those teams are in consideration.
I guess if we were doing the March Madness bracket,
there'll be first four out, Okay, okay for first four

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out right on the thing?

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
You know, all right, I got you all right. Now,
let's let's get into some of the games being played today.
One o'clock today in Orchard Park, New York, the ten
and seven Denver Broncos at the Buffalo Bills. And this
is not going to be a walk in the park
of the Bills. And I'll tell you right now, I
don't feel or see the pressure on the Bills as
perhaps there should be. You know, I think it's now

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we're never for the Buffalo Bills. This team is being
built to win the Super Bowl this year, and anytime
you bring up the Bills, all people think about is
the four consecutive Super Bowls that they lost. Now you
got bow Knicks, who's playing great, and I know they
just beat the Chiefs thirty eight zip. But the Chiefs
really weren't playing anybody. But still in all, I mean,
come on, I think bow Knicks was completely Like his

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first eighteen passes, he was like twenty nine, what's twenty
six for twenty nine? Pittsford over three hundred yards, had
four touchdowns in that game. I think that's that's I
think that the Buffalo Bills are going to be in
for a shaka today. I think they'll win because the
game is in Buffalo, but I think there's gonna be
a lot tighter than people think.

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
So you're saying you're going with the Buffalo Bills. Is
that what you're saying?

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
Yeah, I'm rooting for Denver. I'm rooting for my man
Sean Payne because he's a Skyline Chili guy.

Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
Okay, so you're heading your bit, that's what you want.
You want to get credit for saying, Hey, I think
it's tight. Yeah, but the Buffalo Bills are going to win.
Oh okay, you want the different fans that like you
were saying, we got a chance. Now, this is the
Buffalo Bills game to win. And the Buffalo Bills and
the issue that you have with the Denver Broncos. Denver
Broncos led the league in sacks. How are they gonna

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deal with the How they canna deal with Josh Allen?
Can they get enough pressure on Josh Allen to disrupt
the rhythm of the Buffalo Bills offense? The Bills only
had they only allowed fourteen sacks this year. As great
as Denver's offense might play with bow Knicks coming off
of that wonderful win against Ken City Chiefs backups their

(01:03:32):
JV team, I just think it's different playing in Buffalo,
playing up there, They're gonna be a rabbid Rockets crowd.
I think the Buffalo Bills are going to overwhelm the
Broncos early. It's gonna be too much for them to
overcome later.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
I'm gonna say this. I think it's gonna be tough
for Buffalo to move the ball against Denver. Do you
think I'm crazy for saying that? I think it will
be tough. I think if that's just tough, I really do.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
I don't think. I don't think you're crazy for saying that.
That's a reasonable explanation for why it may be some
tough sledding. I'm okay with that, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
I hope they win. It would be it would be
a beautiful thing. I know Lamar Jackson wants them want
to stand for the win, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
And Jackson, what would mar Jackson want them to win?

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
Because I think he thinks that Josh Allen's his rival,
and this way the pressures off Lamar Jackson because everybody
says Lamar can win the big games, which is bull
I can't stand when I read that stuff, because why
blame the court? I mean, the quarterback takes all the blame.
It's not all falled. It really isn't.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
No, no, no, no, he's the picture in baseball. He
gets credit for the win or the loss. I don't
I know people want to they want to separate quarterbacks
from the result of the game because then they can say, like,
it's not as far, you can't judge that, or whatever.
The quarterback is the more most important piece of the puzzle.
The better your quarterback is the more like these.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
No doubt. And the teams that are not in the
playoffs don't have a quarter.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
Don't have the right quarters. So we're going to judge
the quarterback harshly because the quarterback makes significantly more money
than everybody else. That's what the team, the league has
told us, that the quarterback is dead value valuable. We
will pay him double what the next marquee player will make.
That's how important he is. Well, now you're gonna get

(01:05:20):
you gonna get a sign blame when the team wins
or loses because you occupy so much of the cap
and so much of the attention. Yes, you get it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
I understand that. We'll see what happens. All right, let's
move on. Now, let's go to Philadelphia where the eleven
and six Packers, the Green Bay Packers, which really could
be a sleeper here in the playoffs, playing the Philadelphia
Eagles fourteen and three. Let's look at the records right now.
The Eagles have won twelve over their last thirteen games.
The Packers, however, have gone two and three in their

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last five. And if you with the graph, Jordan Love,
I'd say it's graph is trending downward towards the end
of the season. Why, I don't know, but I think
it is. And the Packers go is Jordan Love go.
So that's the key right there. So again I think
there's an advantage another advantage. I think uh Sequon Barkley
is rested and rested well, he didn't play last week.
You know, he's a big part of the offense and

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downer though for Philadelphia, the quarterback Jalen Hurts is coming
off a concussion, so obviously that got to give the
ball to Saquon to take the pressure of Jalen right now.
So we'll see what happens. I think Philadelphia will win again.
I'm running for Green Bay, but again I want to
see Saquon get a ring because he could stick it
to the Giants like that. So I don't know, but
I think if you would to ask me, I said,

(01:06:32):
the Eagles win, they'll probably win by a score.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
Bittheading, man, what are we doing?

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:06:40):
Okay, so if you're all in on the Eagles, they
just say you're all in on the Eagles? Like project,
you know what I'm saying, Like, can you channel you're inner? Nick? Siri? Yanni?
How would Nick Siriyani say it. The Eagles are gonna win,
ended he would not have said, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
You know what if the you know, he's gonna but
if the Eagles lost, He's gonna throw the bird to
the That's the kind of guy he is, you know,
that's the.

Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
Way he is. Because they impacted his play, his play
callings or the decision making. Yeah, I can understand that. Like,
but Philly loves that. They should love a little confrontation.
That's what the city is built upon, is built on,
you know, the city of brotherly love where you have
arguments and those things, but get together later. So I'm
okay with that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
Rabbit fans, Rabbit fans that they're crazy. I mean that
this could be a great game. That'll be a great game.
It's on Fox this say afternoon for thirty Eastern time. Now,
let's go to Tampa Bay. The Commanders of Washington twelve
and five are playing at the Tampa Bay Bucks. They
are ten and seven. Let's look at this right now.
The command is by the way, we're blown out by
Tampa Bay thirty seven twenty way back in week one

(01:07:45):
in September. However, the Commanders aren't the same team now
Jayden Daniels has some lex swarnas right now, but obviously
there are different teams, so I don't think you could
judge anything on that right now. Let's look at right
now now as far as what's going on with the Commanders,
and in this situation, the Commanders have lost what six

(01:08:08):
of last seven? Well, the Bucks have won six of seven.
Your Commanders have well lost six of their last seven.
I think it has yet nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
Yeah, look, I think this. I think this matchup is
interesting because you talk about Tampa Bay being six and
won their last seven games. We can talk about the
emergence of their rushing attack with Bucket irving Mi sear White,
Mike Evans been a one man show on the perimeter,
backing Mayfield thrown for forty five hundred passing yards. All
of that is great. I am banking my entire hopes

(01:08:40):
on the Washington Commanders. Sensational rookie quarterback Jayden Daniels to me,
and I'll say this, Jayden Daniels is not only a
guy that's offensive Rookie of the Year, but Jayden Daniels
should give votes as the MVP. The Commanders were nothing
before Jayden Daniels came and fries everybody. As a number

(01:09:01):
two overall pick, he put the team on his back.
He's thrown for three thousand yards. He's rushed for eight
hundred and ninety one yards, most by rookie quarterback, most
on his team. He leads his team in rushing. So
I'm just gonna say he's gonna put together one of
those magical performances that makes us talk about him against
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
Okay, so let me get this straight right now. The
Bucks have won six of their last seven. The Commanders
have won the last five. And here's the situation. Here,
here's a stat that I think will be quite interesting.
And losses to the Eagles, the Steelers, and the Ravens. Okay,
for the Commanders, Jaden Daniels was held to twenty two
or fewer rushing yards against the Eagles, Steelers, and Ravens.

(01:09:43):
And games where Jaden Daniels gets to at least fifty
rushing yards, the Commanders are six and two. Can he
get the fifty rushing yards today against Tampa Bay.

Speaker 3 (01:09:54):
To resent because they're gonna run him. Those games that
you mentioned, those are the games where he was beat up.
Remember he was nursing some ribs. Like halfway to three
quarters away of the season, he had rib injuries. So
he's playing, but he wasn't really utilizing them. Now all
best are off. Man, we're going for broke, We're doing
all kinds of fun stuff. Cliff Kingsbury has really got

(01:10:14):
in his bag with the running game. You unleasham and
the thing that we also know about Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Man,
they're gonna let the snot out of Jayden Daniels. And
when it comes to scramble runs, no one produces more
yardage on scramble plays than Jayden Daniels. This is in
his wheelhouse. If they're not locked in in terms of
being coordinated up front, he gets passed that initial wave

(01:10:37):
of defenders. He is going to be a headache for
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I'm banking on chaos today. I
think the home crowd gets them. I mean the home
crowd to get Tampa Bay juiced up and saw stuff.
But I think he relishes going into that environment and
getting the dub Give me the commanders, I'm all over
the chemists.

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
I'm with you, I think, and I've seen in every
publication I've looked at they have the boat winning by six,
they have the bucks thirty twenty four. I don't think
that's going to happen. I think jayde Daniels winter, although
I worry about the leg soreness and may affect his
ability to run the football. I don't know. I haven't
heard much about that. They didn't list him as questionable
or anything like that. He's going to play, there's no

(01:11:15):
doubt about that. But you know, if he gets a
couple of hits early on and may really affect him,
I hope they don't knock him out. I really don't
look thinking about that. You know, I'm going to run
this by you. I still believe, and you know you
don't hear much about it. I still believe. These NFL
teams have bounties. They have bounties. Right, you played the game.

(01:11:36):
You know what I'm talking about. They throw money in
the pot and if you can knock out about you
win the money. Right.

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
I don't know what you I don't know what you yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
you agree talking about like a bounty like no we play.
We played for the love of the game. Sports Machine
help people up when we knock him down. I have
no I have no idea what you're talking about when
you talk about bounties and bounty gates.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
Put your hand on your heart when you say that,
see which hand just like.

Speaker 5 (01:12:07):
This?

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
I have heard, you know, And I hate to mention
the player's name because he's a buddy of mine, but
he's playing on listening anyway. He played for the Cincinnati Bengals.
How he told me in the locker room before the game,
there's there's a bounty. Maybe it stopped. I can't believe
it stopped. And have a barrel that throw money in
the barrel and it woven knocks the quarterback out. They
get the money. But maybe maybe now with the salary

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is so much higher, you know, he played maybe in
the nineties, you know, so maybe it's a different animal now,
So maybe they don't need the bounty. But I think
it's a great incentive for players to play hard to
win that bounty. That's what I've heard.

Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
I don't know about that. I know when I was
in Buffalo, they were coming on the heels and winning
four straight Super Bowls. Didn't necessarily have bounties, but they
had different things, like you know, who had the big
hit don't kickoff. You know, may give out a toaster oven,
you know, may give out some gift cards or special
treats to people.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Okay, so there are to play hard back.

Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
In the day. This is this was way back in
the day in the nineties, and so you're talking about bounties.
I prefer not to reference some of those things that
you're uh using the audience like.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
I should though it was just about the like like
incentives instead and said, but about it. It is a bounty,
but I'll use the term an incentive.

Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
Treats, right, like some treats. There's some treats that sometimes
the treats would come from the team. Sometimes there would
be uh fundraised by the players to make sure that
people were treated to nice dinners and those things if
they had some impactful place.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
There you go. You know, I've always gotten myself in
trouble for saying things behind the curtain, and more than that,
using the names. I mean, to this day, Anthony Munnos
is not really my friend. He doesn't, you know, not
when he sees me, because I mentioned at one point
in time, I was told that he used to put
stickum on his jersey. So when defensive guys would come

(01:14:01):
against him, you know, they'd get stuck to his jersey.
And I said that on the radio one time, and
he went nuts on me, you know, and he's still
to this day. Remember, I mean, let it go, I
mean really right, I mean, you're in the Hall of fame.
Let it go. But that's what always got me in trouble,
because when I hear these things, anything goes. To me,
anything goes, maybe unless you tell me, please don't use it.

(01:14:21):
But to me, if I hear it, I'm gonna use it.
And the legitimate source told me that, so I used it.
And look, he wouldn't have been mad at me if
he didn't think it was true. Right, So it was true.
He did put the stick them on his jersey.

Speaker 3 (01:14:37):
I mean sometimes some of those things, you know, if
you out Davis just saved, you ain't cheating. You ain't trying, right, right.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
If you don't get caught, you're not cheating either, right.
So it's all about He's Bucky Brooks. I'm any firming.
This is Fox Football Sunday on Foxstray. The real playoff
competition is bottom barrel betting. It's freaking next bottom barrel
betting right around the corner of it minutes now before
the top of the hour. He is Bucky Brooks. I'm
Andy Furman, and we are Fox Football Sunday and we're

(01:15:06):
live at the tyraq dot com studio. But we got
a gate to play, so let's play it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
And there's only one man on God's Green Earth that
could run this game and run it smoothly. And his
name is Shay. Shay sheha. How you doing wake up?

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
Come on, good morning, guys.

Speaker 5 (01:15:22):
How are we doing another day, another Sunday, another football Sunday?

Speaker 3 (01:15:28):
Yes, and what does that mean? It means we.

Speaker 5 (01:15:30):
Get to play our favorite game, bottom barrel betting game
where I show Bucky and Andy different games throughout the
world and they tell me who they think will win.
These are pretty wacky games, so let's get right into it.
Last week we did something a little bit different. We
did a special Do you remember that?

Speaker 3 (01:15:52):
Do you remember that? We did a.

Speaker 5 (01:15:53):
Special Golden Globes edition of it, which, honestly, you guys
didn't do too good. You guys both got two correct
So that's a tie from last week from both of
you guys, leading the totals to Andy forty and Bucky
forty four. Tie is pretty boring, guys, let's not how
that happened again. Yeah, we'll stick to sports. Then we'll

(01:16:17):
suck to sports this week. So let's just get straight
into it. So today and the FINA Men's World Cup.

Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
You know what that is, guys.

Speaker 5 (01:16:26):
It's a water polo tournament. Japan is taking on Croatia
at six am Pacific Standard time. Japan is plus three
twenty five all Croatia is minus two seventy five.

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
Andy, let's go to you.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
I'm gonna go with Croatia. I'll tell you why. I
think there's more lakes and rivers in Croatia than in Japan,
so the more adapt to swimming in the water. So
I'll go with Croatia.

Speaker 3 (01:16:50):
All right, We'll go with Japan. That's easy.

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
Wait, did you say you think there's more water in Croatia?

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
Yes, I do.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
You know Japan's and island, right, I.

Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
Understand, But I'm talking about the inland with swoot the ocean.

Speaker 3 (01:17:02):
Facts, facts over their shade. Don't don't mess with the facts, like.

Speaker 5 (01:17:06):
Don't I just I just this guy's over here giving
out false info.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
I just inland. You could you could live on an island,
but there's mold Man Island.

Speaker 3 (01:17:16):
All right, fact checkers allowed.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
You're right, You're right, you're right. I'm the host, you
know I need to keep it professional.

Speaker 5 (01:17:23):
Okay, right, you're right. My bad, My bad, my bad.
I should go back to sleep. In the Albanian Basketball
super League, Tirana Neptune is taking on Kamza Basket today
at nine am Pacific Standard time. Tirana Neptune is plus
one forty while Comza Basket is minus two ten.

Speaker 3 (01:17:43):
Bucky Tiranto Toronto was was it basket? Is Toronto Baskets.

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
Toronto Neptune and Kamza Basket.

Speaker 3 (01:17:51):
Okay, so I took both, Okay, so let's go with Neptune.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
Okay, dude too, I've got to go.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
With the basket of his basketball, right, it's gotta got
the baskets. I go with the team with the basket.

Speaker 5 (01:18:02):
There comes the basket that made That made more sense
than your last one. Andy, that made a lot more sense,
way more logic than one.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
We'll see next week. What makes sense, we'll see. You
Just just do your jobs if you want to, If
you want to look.

Speaker 5 (01:18:14):
It up, it starts in an hour a Men's World
Cup water polo.

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
You took Croatia. Look it up, okay, two hours?

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
Well you know what I want you to look up
right now. Just put put a hold on this. We'll continue.
I'm gonna watch it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
I'm gonna find a way to watch him.

Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
We're gonna watch Google.

Speaker 1 (01:18:37):
We'll Japan.

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
Find out how many water ainlets are in Japan as
opposed to Croatia. It's an island. What do you mean
the inland lakes and rivers inside you? You can swim
in the ocean, I would say something in the socks
in the ocean. They're not gonna train for water polo
in the ocean.

Speaker 1 (01:18:53):
I promise you there.

Speaker 5 (01:18:55):
Okay, even inland water or anything. There's probably more in
Japan then there is Croatia.

Speaker 2 (01:19:01):
We'll see you next week.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
This is a bet.

Speaker 3 (01:19:03):
We're doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
Hey, how about this?

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
If I win this, Bucky wins next week?

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
All right, that's right.

Speaker 5 (01:19:11):
Thought you want to keep going in the i fi
As World Cup Okay ten kilometer men's Freestyle. This is
a cross country skiing competition. It's taking place in France
UH this week on the seventeenth at four thirty eight
Pacific Standard time. Frederick mock is taking UH is taking
on Mike vermulin. Frederick is plus one fifteen while Mike

(01:19:34):
is minus one sixty. Andy, oh quick, vermulin ver French
to me.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
I like that, Bucky.

Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
So is that Frederick or Michael Frederick? I have Michael,
So I'm going with Michael.

Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
No, no, you're going Frederick.

Speaker 3 (01:19:49):
Okay, I'm more Frederick Frederick.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
To keep the score right, will you please.

Speaker 5 (01:19:55):
I'm looking this up right now, I'm looking this. I'm
looking this up right now, looking this up. We'll be
right back with with with the totals, all right, and
my cart next.

Speaker 3 (01:20:07):
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