Fox Football Sunday: Andy Furman & Bucky Brooks talk NFL Divisional Round, Lions Loss, Bob Uecker and So Much More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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I'll give you three choices, flop, failure, or disappointment. Take
your pick. And I'm talking about the Detroit Lions. I'll
tell you right here, right here, right now, I would
tell you I think that Detroit Lions was this year's
America's team and for them to lose to Washington forty

(00:44):
five thirty one, I can't fathom that. I really can't.
And there's some statistics that say, really did that happen?
Is Bucky Brooks with me right now? Is he still celebrating?
I want to know. Is the Buckman there all right?

Speaker 3 (00:57):
He is?

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yes, No, he's pretty to make he's putting on his makeup. Okay,
it's okay, I get it. Maybe he's upset, maybe he's
depressed as well. Here's a team like the Lions became
the first team in NFL history to lose a playoff
game when having three hundred plus passing yards and two
hundred plus rushing yards. Jared Gott what are you doing?
What are you doing? Threet's in a fumble. I don't

(01:19):
get it. And I felt for Dan Campbell. I mean
I really did. I mean, here's a team fifteen wins.
I don't get it. I just don't understand. And I'll
tell you something else. I'm not too pleased. I'm not
too pleased when two teams meet in playoff competition who
have already met prior in the season, I don't think
it's right. I'm gonna go back in time because I
think if you don't know history, you can't talk sports.

(01:40):
I know a little bit of history, Okay, I've been
around the block a little bit. You know, when they
had the World Series back in the day, it was
the National League meet in the American League, and those
teams had never met until they met in the World Series.
All right, this time you had teams playing, and they
played earlier on this year. Okay, they had the Texas
and Chiefs in Week fifteen at Kansas City. They played that,

(02:00):
they played early on, and they played a game. Okay,
yesterday they got Commander's Lions. I just I just don't
think that teams should play early on. That's just the
way it is. I get it, and it's not gonna change.
I'm not happy about it. I still think the Lions
were a better team. Maybe they were tight the pressure.
I think that when you have the game between Washington
and Detroit, and the Commanders to me, were somewhat playing

(02:22):
with house money. They really were. And the Lions, there's
so much pressure on these guys. I think they're somewhat cracked.
I really did. I just I don't understand how the
Detroit Lions fell in that game yesterday. I just maybe
someone to tell me. Jared got twenty three for forty
three in the thirteen yards, a touchdown, three I t's,
and a fumble. They rushed for two hundred and one yards.

(02:43):
Jamier Gibbs was tremendous. He really was fourteen to tens,
one hundred and five yards, two touchdowns passing. They passed
for three thirty six. Jayden Daniels, let's not take anything
away from him now quarterback for the Washington Commander's twenty
two for thirty one, two ninety nine, two touchdowns, and
obviously they passed for two ninety nine years. It's it's
just something that I don't understand how things like that

(03:04):
could happen. I don't get it. I mean, and maybe
someone could explain it to me, and maybe Bucky Brooks
could do that to me as well. It just it
just doesn't make sense in the scheme of things because
I didn't see Washington winning. Maybe someone else did. I
just didn't see it. Look heman Ross Saint Brown. He
completed his postgame interviews. He was crying. Dan Campbell was crying,

(03:26):
do we have any Dan Campbell postgame? Because I'm getting
for Clempton a little choked up over here because I
still can't get over the loss. I really can't. I mean,
you know, sometimes you look at again and I'm not wagering.
I didn't wager on this game. I really didn't. I
just figured, like Detroit be a great story. I haven't
done anything. They have none squat and eons really and
I just I don't understand how that happened. So if

(03:49):
we have a little bit of Dan Campbell, let me
hear him, because maybe he'll just calm me down a
little bit.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
It just hurts to lose, man, And I don't care
if you're the seven seed, six seed, five seed, one seed,
because I've lost it all of them down there, and
it stings and it hurts. So you know, it hurts.
It's hard, you know, when you lose. When you lose

(04:15):
these games, man, it's like the players, you know what
they put into it. A lot of people don't know.

(04:36):
You know what they go through. You have to get
up bodies, beat the ship, and you know, mentally stay
locked in and do those things. So long season.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
Tell them what guy whatever? On the.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
You know, I will say this, and I'm guilty of
this as well, sipping on the microphone. Really easy to
take a guy apart, pick him apart, criticize him. At
the end of the day. You know, forget about the
money because they said, oh, this guy's making so much money.
Is he worth it doing this? You know, sitting down
for money?

Speaker 4 (05:18):
No.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
The bottom line is this, These guys are professionally, these
guys are athletes and they heard just as much as
a kid playing Pop Warner football. That's just the way
it is. And I'll talk about Jared Goff as good
as Jayden Daniels was yesterday. It was that bare for
Jared Goff came up short in a big game. I
know there's going to have to live with that, and
I hope it doesn't happen to Lamar Jackson today. His

(05:40):
night included a pick six and interception in the end
zone just before halftime, and interception late in the game
when the Lions are trying to pull up that comeback. Okay,
He also committed a fumble in the first quarter that
set up the Washington Commander's first touchdown. I don't get it.
I'm not saying that because it's a big game. He
wilt it under the pressure. It's just he got a
bad game. That happens, right, Bucket Brooks tell me it

(06:01):
was just a bad game. And I don't understand. How
were you surprised or did you have Washington winning this game.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
I did not have Washington winning, but I was not
surprised about the Commanders going on the road and doing it.
Because the quarterback is special. What happens in these moments Andy,
And when you think about the Detroit Lines being the
number one seed, having the bye week to get ready,
there's a lot of stuff going on and it's kind

(06:29):
of chaotic for the favorite to take care of business
at home. The Lions have always been kind of like
the lovable losers. They didn't have the pressure last year.
It was kind of like the feel good story. To me,
this is the first time that they've had the pressure
where there were expectations with them, and they played like

(06:51):
a very tight football team in terms of feeling the pressure,
the way to depression, those things. Even though Bean Johnson
like kind of opened the clip in terms of the
way they were aggressive in those things. The team played tight,
and when Jerry Goff got off to that slow start
and you saw the interceptions and the turnovers and those things,
it was almost like they couldn't get out of their

(07:12):
own way. And for someone who loves Jery Goff as
a person, it's hard to watch him go through that.
But in the playoffs, that's how these things go. The
emotional ups and downs and swings can lead to these
kind of performances because it's hard to perform in the
spotlight like that.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Okay, I'm going to say one thing, and I said
this early on top of the show. You got to
know a little bit of history in the world of
sports to be somewhat on top of it. You have
to know history to be normal to talk about sports. Okay.
And you could talk about the way they played. They
were tight, it didn't work out, whatever it is. And
people are going to say that Jared GoF right now

(07:51):
is four and five in the playoffs. This includes his
days with the Rams. Okay, I get it, okay, and
talk about what he did. Here's the real reason why
the Detroit Lions lost history. And I study this way
back in the fifties and I'm not that hole, but
I do a lot of research. I like to read.
I like to read about history. Back in the fifties,
the Detroit Lions at a quarterback the name of Bobby Lane,

(08:12):
and the Detroit Lions traded Bobby Lane to the Pittsburgh Steelers.
When they traded Bobby Lane to the Pittsburgh Steelers, Bobby
Lane said, you will never win a championship in Detroit.
He said it'll take at least fifty years. And he
put the curse on the Detroit Lion. No one's talking
about it, but it's written. It has been written. I'm

(08:33):
telling you. Just like the Boston Red Sox had that
Curse of the Bambino, the Detroit Lions had the curse
of Bobby Lane. Maybe now it'll be exposed because I'm
telling you I read about it, and it's true. The
Bobby Lane curse remains with the Detroit Lions period and
the story.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
I don't know if the curse can hold true because
eventually curses are broken. But I will say it's really
tough for the Detroit Lions right now because no matter
how they slice it, no matter how they wanted to
dismiss it and say that this is a learning opportunity,
something that they can bounce back from, the reality is
and the last two years the Detroit Lions have had

(09:14):
the red carpet rolled out for them in terms of
being able to go to the Super Bowl. Last year
on the road, they were up dominating the San Francisco
forty nine ers and couldn't close it out. This year,
they used a motivation from that loss to kind of
propel them to a fifteen win season. Number one overall
seed have home field advantage throughout the playoffs and we're

(09:34):
kind of penciling them in to be the NFC representative
and they couldn't get it done. Now, you look at
a team that could lose both coordinators Ben Johnson and
Aaron Glenn respectively, and they are forced to rebuild with
Dan Campbell having to do it with so much newness around.
It's unfortunate, but it's heartbreaking for Detroit Lions fans because

(09:57):
they may not get back to this moment for a while,
and it's just hard to see these golden opportunities slip
through your fingers.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Look, injuries are part of the game. I get that.
I understand that. I think that the Detroit Lions did
rather well considering the amount of injuries that they had,
but the pass rush that they had was never really
was never really solved. After Aiden Hudginson had that injury
in Week five, you know, they struggled all season long
after they lost Hutchinson. They did well, they managed to

(10:27):
patch it up to some extent, but they never really
had a great pass rush and it was shown last
night because they didn't put enough pressure on Jayden Daniels.
They didn't put any pressure really at all on Jayden
Daniel last night, he was never even sacked. He wasn't
sacked once. So I think the loss of Aiden Hudgerson
and that pressure or lack thereof, was a big factor
and the Detroit defense last night. And again, injuries are

(10:48):
part of the game, and that's just the nature of
the beast that happens.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
It does happen, and injuries are a part of the game.
And it's unfortunate for the Lions that they weren't able
to put it together. They were very dependent upon the
Bliss pressure and playing man demand to try and generate
that kind of pressure and create that disruption and chaos
for the offense. And though it worked a couple of
weeks ago Minnesota Vikings, it played into the hands of

(11:15):
the Washington Commanders because they have a quarterback who has
unbelie unbelievable poise. He's super calm and composed in these
high pressure moments, and his athleticism and unique traits as
a runner and passer really exposed the Detroit Lions, and
that was really the main reason why they lost, in
terms of not being able to slow them down. Jade

(11:36):
and Daniels, Cliff Kingsbury, they were on their game and
they attacked the Lions where they were vulnerable, and we
saw it lead to big play after big play after
big play.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Do you find it interesting and funny? I really do
that the fact that it was such a big win
and an unexpected win by the Washington commanders, and we're
spending most of our time talking about the Detroit Lions
because I do believe it was a failure, a flop,
a major disappointment. I think that, as you say, they
may never reach this level again next year because of losses,

(12:07):
losses of coaches, whoever.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
It may be.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
And as good as bad as Jared Goff was, that's
how good Jayden Daniels was when they even much talked
about him. He had what the greatest rookie season in
NFL history. He was unbelievable last night twenty two for
thirty one two ninety nine two touchdowns. He also raffed
of fifty two yards and fifteen carries. He was unreal,
he really was, and you could not tell he was
a rookie. He really will and we do not even

(12:30):
talk about the guy. We're talking about the flop and
the disappointment of the Detroit Lions.

Speaker 4 (12:37):
Yeah, I can't say that I'm surprised because Detroit Lions
number one seed. Whenever the number one seed goes down
in this fashion, you have to talk about them first.
Will eventually turn our tens to Jaydon Daniels and talk
about how wonderful he is as a first year player,
and not only about his ability to completely transform this

(13:00):
franchise to commanders who had the number two overall pick
a season ago, and here they are playing for an
opportunity to go to the super Bowl. That tells you
what a difference a player, a franchise quarterback can make. Man,
we saw it all year in terms of him playing,
but I think everyone, even his most passionate supporters, would

(13:24):
say that they are surprised at how well he performed
on this stage and how he's handled all of the
pressure and the expectations that have come along with his
outstanding performance.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
All right, and how far can they go? In your mind,
do you think this is a stepping stone? Could they
leap over and win the next round? I don't know.
I just think that again, they came into that game
last night real loose, and I said that looked like
they were playing with house money as opposed to the
pressure and so much pressure on Detroit, number one being
a number one seed, number two playing at home, and

(13:56):
number three with the expectations knowing that everybody saying that
this team needs to, should, and probably will go back
to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
Yeah, I mean, it's definitely a different approach and take.
When you are the team that's the lowest ranked team
in the tournament, you succeed. You're on the road. No
one believes that you can knock the Lions off. The
Lions have been viewed as the first or second best
team in the league all year. They're playing at home.

(14:26):
Everyone understands what that environment was like in Motown, and
yet they handled it, yeah, like this. So there was
definitely some loose energy that they were able to play with,
and we could talk about house money and those things,
but now they didn't feel the pressure. The trick will
be for dan Quinn and the squad. Can they maintain
that same energy next week against Philadelphia, a division rival,

(14:50):
or the LA Rams, who also will have this emotional
boost working for them, given the fact that they're representing
a city that has just undergone some serious devastation.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
You mentioned something early on and I kind of just
turned the light on a little bit of my little
pea brain saying that they may be losing the Detroit
Lions to two assistant coaches defensive coordinator, offensive coordinator. Is
it possible? Is it possible that maybe they were not
as focused as they should be in game preparation because
of interviews and knowing that they could very well be

(15:22):
their last game and they're going to pack up and
move on to head coaching positions.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
That is a possibility. I mean, let's just call it
what it is. I would imagine that it's hard to
have virtual interviews while you're getting ready for a game.
Ben Johnson and Air Englyn had some conversations with other
teams regarding open head coaching positions, and it is hard
to pour everything into the game plan while also prepping

(15:52):
for an interview. Like that's just reality, and we can
talk about that. Like Ben Johnson certainly was on his
game and all that they scored thirty plus points in that,
but you would have to think that it took a
little bit away from his focus and efforts, and the
same can be said for Aaron Glynn. It is hard
to kind of they say it's hard to serve two masters,

(16:15):
and so you have this thing that you're trying to
get done in terms of a great season. You want
to finish it the right way with the Lions, but
there's also a part of you that wants to fast
forward to the end of the book to see if
you can close the deal on one of these head
coaching jobs. Yeah. I can't say that that's the reason
why they lost, but it certainly had to be a
part of the distraction that they were dealing.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
With, right, And the longer the Lions would go in
the playoff competition, the less time either one of those
coaches would have to get accustomed to their new team.
So in a sense, I would think that they're breathing
a sigh of relief. Yeah, OK, we lost, We gave
it our best shot. Now I could close that chapter
of my life and get started as a head coach

(16:57):
and meet the team, maybe get a place to live, family,
move it may be, and they move on.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
I mean yeah, because you're thinking about multiple things, right,
You're thinking about next year and if I take this job,
like who am I going to hire my offensive and
defensive coordinators? Who else am I bringing with me? You're
having these private conversations maybe with some of the coaches
on your own staff. Hey, if I get this job,
I would like to bring you with me. What do
you think would you come? Would you go? And so

(17:26):
not only are the coordinators distracted, you potentially could have
some other assistance that are distracted and excited about the
possibilities that could take place in a week or two.
Hard to keep everybody in line and locked in on
what the goal is. And when you have a lot
of success, that's one of the things that you have
to handle. How do you handle success? Because success brings

(17:49):
about more attention, more opportunities, but it also can divert
your attention away from the main thing, and maybe, just
maybe the Lions forgot to keep the main thing the
main thing as they got into the division round.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
I would venture to say that this could be the
biggest disappointment of the playoffs. But I'm gonna wait to
see what happens with Buffalo and Baltimore today because obviously
one of those teams is going to be a big
disappointment as well. But there was a huge disappointment with
the Detroit Lions, and I feel for the fans, I
really do. Look, I don't usually have a rooting interest, Yeah,
I live in the Cincinnati area. I like to watch

(18:24):
the Bengals. I root for them, but I don't live
and die with them. But there was something about the
Detroit Lions because they've been such lovable losers for so long.
I like Dan Campbell. I saw him on Hard Knocks.
I just like his energy, I like his passion. I
heard him this morning we had to meet. He had
almost tears while he was speaking, and he's into it.
And there were so many fans and I'm included in this.

(18:45):
You know, it's easy to take a player and then
rip them to shreds behind the microphone. They have every
bit of feeling towards winning and losing. Forget about the money.
And most fans will say, and you hear them to
you all the time in the stands. You know, they
always say he's making it too. But no money is
great and its obviously you get paid to what you do,
and you should get paid for what you do, because

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they bring in a lot of money to the operation.
But I think that in the bottom line is their competitors,
and all competitors want to win, and they didn't win.
That's the bottom line.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
There's this bottom line. Everybody wants to win, and you
want to win at the highest level, and you want
to feel that kind of pressure that they felt last night.
But ultimately I can say this, and it's funny because
Washington didn't have a lot of well, on paper, didn't
appear that Washington had a lot of experience, but they
move on. But the number of veterans that Washington signed
last year and throughout the season who have significant playoff

(19:39):
experience or Super Bowl experience might have been the difference
in this term, this team being calm and cool under pressure,
whereas the Lions are still figuring their way out. When
you have a Bobby Wagner, when you have a Zach Ertz,
guys that have played on the biggest stage and has
success there, maybe that are calming influence on the rest
of their teammates. It's something that you certainly have to

(20:01):
talk about. It didn't appear like the game was too
big for the Commanders, while it did appear that it
kind of overwhelmed the Lions at times unbelievable.

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(21:33):
at now Bucky Brooks. Let's get into this game yesterday
the Texans Chiefs, and I said this early on today.
I said, I'm not too keen on the fact that
teams meet earlier in the season and they meet again
in the playoffs Week fifteen at Kansas City. The Chiefs
win twenty seven to nineteen. I don't know how you
feel about that. And I kind of alluded to Major
League Baseball back in the day when they had the

(21:54):
World Series. It was a big deal because those two
teams won for the National League one for the American League,
were meeting for the first time. They didn't have a
delete play. I think it was a different animal back then.
I think it was better. And the fact that the
Chiefs played the Texans earlier this year, I think it
takes away a little bit of the glimmer from the game.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
Yeah, but you can't predict who's gonna be in the postseason, right.
If that's the case, then you would never let them
play anybody. I mean, if that's what we're doing, Like,
and because the Texans are an AFC opponent, you can't
ban them from playing other AFC opponents. I could see
if we're talking about someone that was in the NFC

(22:32):
like an early on, but we're not doing that. Like
the way that it's set up. Yeah, you're gonna have
to play some rematches in those things. In rematches can
be interesting because it's hard to be the same team twice.
There's a level of familiarity that you have to deal
with and the adjustments and all of those things that
come along with it. It's very tough if you're the

(22:52):
Texans or can't see the Chiefs to kind of square
off against this team that you faced just a few
weeks ago. But it happens. And that's just kind of
the way that the cookie crumbled for the Texans. And
we could talk about all that, but ultimately, man, the
Texans were rude the day that they gave away a
game to the Kancity Chiefs that they dominated. I mean,

(23:14):
you just look at the way that they dominated on
paper yardage, didn't turn the ball over. Look, I think
it's the first time that someone has outgained the opponent
about one hundred yards and didn't have a turnover in
the postseason yet lost. I think the teams before, yes,
they were forty six and zero in Di's kind of situation. Man,
I just know it's gonna be some sleepless nights for

(23:37):
Damiko Ryans and a staff because this is one that
was well within their grass. They just couldn't get it done.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
I'm glad you mentioned that because obviously the final was
twenty three to fourteen Kansas City, but it was the
Texans defensive end Will Anderson Junior. He said that he
thought the referees were against his team yesterday in that game,
and I'm saying, wait a minute, I get it. After
the game, you're upset, you say things maybe you wish
you didn't say. But look, the problem was that CJ.
Stroud had a career high twenty three pressures yesterday. He

(24:04):
was under pressure almost on every single drop back, and
the pressures led to eight sacks, and that Tide of
career high that was set way back in Week nine
against guess who, the New York Jets, of all people.
I mean, it was unreal. They were just outplayed. And
on the defensive end, I mean, seriously, Kansasity just put
so much pressure it was ridiculous. I mean almost on

(24:25):
every single play he had no time to get rid
of the ball, and I didn't hold the ball that long. Look,
I just have to say, also, I just think the
better team won. So for Will Anderson Junior to come
out there and say the referees took the game from them,
I just I know you're upset, and you know, I
just don't think that was the right thing to do.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
Andy, you watched that game, you didn't feel like there
are a couple of questions.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
A couple of questions.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
Went went the Chiefs way. I mean, so for me,
you have to remember, like I'm a Carolina guy. I
went to UNC Chapel Hill. So I've seen this movie
before where it reminds me of Duke basketball. When they
were rolling and they were good. It appeared that they
always had eight guys on the floor. It was the
five guys and then the three referees just seemingly made

(25:13):
calls that always kind of fell in their favor. That's
what the Kansas City Chiefs tend to benefit from. If
the call is questionable, it just appears that it always
goes in their favor. Whether it's the questionable late hit
personal foul that Will Anderson got early in the game
that led to an extension of the drive that resulted

(25:37):
in three points. Whether it's Pat Mahomes and it is
Tom Foolery where he's running around as a quarterback outside
of the pocket, then at the last minute before he's
about to get hit, he falls to his knees like
he's sliding and they get another fifteen yards. Or Pat
Mahomes getting close to the sideline but rather than accelerating
out of bounds, he deliberately pumps the brakes. It kind

(26:00):
of allows people to bump into them. There are a
lot of things that took place yesterday where I could
see what Will Anderson and some of his teammates we're
have an issue with some of the officiating that didn't
go their way.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
I understand that and that's going to happen. But I
love what the coach of the Texas De Meca Ryan said.
He said that there was basically some self inflicted mistakes
that his teammatee and special mistakes on the special teams.
They made some critical mistakes. So look on the game's
opening kickoff, they gave up that sixty three yard kickoff
return to the Kansas City Chiefs and that led to

(26:34):
the field goal. So I think that, yeah, there's some
questionable calls. And in the third quarter that unnecessary roughness
penalty that put the Chiefs of twenty twelve. After that
extra yards were given on that penalty. I see that,
but sometimes you do it to yourself, the self inflicted penalties.
They played sloppy football, they really did.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
They did play softee football. I agree with you there.
They didn't help themselves with the way that they managed
the kicking game. The third phase of the game, which
is very, very important, that showed up and that's really
one of the main reasons why the King City Chiefs
were able to win. The dominance that the Chiefs had
in the kicking game was game changing. It created a

(27:18):
huge point differential between the Chiefs and their opponent. Big
kickoff return, miss field goal, miss pat block field goal,
that's a lot. That's a lot in a closed game,
and so we can talk about you dominating the game
on paper with all of the significant yardage advantage that
goes in your favor. But man, you left the door

(27:40):
open for the Chiefs to win the game. You didn't
finish it. And that's ultimately on the Texans, even though
the officials certainly teed it up on a platter for
the Kancity Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
I would say this, I think you know as well
as anybody else, you play the game. It's a game
of emotion. So the Texas come up in the second half,
open the second half, Joe Mixon comes out of scores
a touchdown, and they mixed the extra point that would
have tied the score thirteen. I think that took a
lot of the air out of the balloon, it really did.
You get that game tied. Next thing, you know, who
knows if they came out like ready to fire at

(28:14):
all sin they look great. They look great at the
beginning of the second half. And Joe Mixon, who was
hurt and there was some questions if you was either
to play or not, he came out looking really good,
came out scoring that touchdown and so oh, here we
go again. And then the next thing, you know, the
ear was let out of the balloon. That the lack
of kicking, the extra points that were missed, and the
block that that's devastating. It really is takes a lot

(28:37):
out of a team.

Speaker 4 (28:39):
It did take a lot out of the team. And
you just think about those little things in a close game,
how they just gave away those those points, and you know,
you just you just regret it, man, I mean, you
just live with that regret knowing that you had an
opportunity to do something to knock off the champs in there.

(29:00):
You had it go on your way and you just
couldn't finish it.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Okay, thinking about finishing, Let's talk about this now, because
it's a big deal about you know, the betting angle
of the game. Okay, the Kansas City Chiefs that had
an eleven point lead, they blocked the field goal of
ten kandasity got the ball back about a minute and
a half to go in the game, and the Chiefs
did not kneel on the ball to knock out the clock. Okay,
they had the Chiefs having Kareem Hunt running on the

(29:23):
first down, it wouldn't be a big deal. But the
Chiefs won by two scores. They got that safety for
two points. It was a key sequence because the points
spread for the game ended at the Chiefs at nine
and a half according to sports Line. All right, this
spread opened at the Chiefs minus seven and a half
and spent It was going back and forth most of
the week seven and a half, eight and a half, whatever.

(29:43):
It was, So obviously it was a big deal. And
then Joe Buck and Troy Aikman talked about that right
after the deal was done, which was surprisingly Look, I'm
not saying anything was done as far as moneis and
betting and things like that. It's a bad look. It
was just a bad look. I get it. And I

(30:04):
just don't think Kansas City wanted to give the ball
back to the Texans. I get it. It's part of
the game, but certainly was a bad look. I put
a bad taste in the mouth of many betters, don't
you agree?

Speaker 4 (30:14):
Yeah, But ultimately, NFL teams and coaches don't call games
for the betters. You hope it, and when you make
that bet, that's part of the deal. You make the
bet knowing that you're going to have to live through
some of these tough moments at the end of games
because just this the nature of the betting world, and
when you lose a bet like that as a beat

(30:36):
goes bad, Yeah, that's tough and it's not a great
look per se, but it's also not one of those
things that you can go in and regulate. Coaches are
going to coach, and they coach independent of the gambling line,
and that's what any reading their staff are going to do.
They're going to continue to do that. So if you're
going to bet and make these kind of best you
got to be able to live with it.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
I'm hearing you're saying. I tell you why. I think
you got to give a little praise to Travis Kelseley.
Travis Kelcey last night. And obviously there was some questions
during this season, has he lost his step as he
getting old? He came back. It is the playoff Travis
Kelsey and it was really he was tremendous. He had
his ninth career one hundred yard receiving game. It was
a big knife for him a game when he touched

(31:19):
down catch after the Texans had gotten to within one
point of the Kansas City Chiefs. He cut seven passes
season nine hundred and seventeen yards. And I don't understand
how this guy has always opened. You know that he's
the number one target for Patrick Mahomes. How does he
always get open? Tell me you're a defensive guy. How
does that happen?

Speaker 4 (31:39):
I don't really know how it happens, right, I don't
know how teams continue to get hit with the right
hand when the Kansa the Chiefs have shown you year
to year their best offense is an offense that features
Travis Kelces the number one option. And since the departure
of Tybreek Hill has become even more apparent that the

(32:00):
ball is going to number eighty seven in any pressure situation,
red zone. Two minutes in the half game on the line,
the ball is going to eighty seven. Yet another week
goes by and we continue to watch these teams leave
Travis Kelsey completely wide open. Pat Maholmes had one hundred
and seventy seven pass yards. Travis Kelce was responsible for

(32:21):
one hundred and seventeen of those yards. It just goes
to show you that the number one option, an older
number one option, continues to get it done. Maybe it
speaks to the greatness of Travis Kelce.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Yeah, it probably does. Now I want to talk about
the special teams. We're not really that special. For the
Houston Texans last night games started, they allowed a sixty
three yard part returned that turned into a seventy eight
yard gain. There was an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty. Now this
was interesting. I didn't see anybody come to the defense
of the coach. All right, Chris Boyd committed to penalty.

(32:59):
Then he shoved a special teams coach, Frank Ross, on
the sidelines. That was shown on TV. And here's the deal.
I get it. You have words with your coach. Maybe
you're on a national stage. Everybody's going to see this.
I know it's emotional. Why would you shove the coach?
And why was there no response after that happened. It
was like, no, biggie, he shoved the coach. No one

(33:20):
came to the coach's defense, No one did anything. It
just happened. Have you ever seen anything like that before?

Speaker 4 (33:26):
Not escalated to push him, but in the heated moment,
things happened, and a very emotional Chris boy thought that
he had made a game change in play. Part of
why we saw him through his helmet. People have talked
about it being like a level of frustration. I saw
it as more of a guy that was celebrating. If
you saw the way he took it off in those things,
he was celebrating the big play that he made because

(33:47):
he thought it was a game changer. However, when the
special teams coach corrected him as he should have, Boy
was at an emotional fire pitch when he responded, and
I think if you ask Chris Boyd right now, he
would say, Man, I regret that I didn't even know
what was going on. I blanked out in terms of
what happened and the amount of emotion that I poured

(34:09):
into this thing. And it's unfortunate, and for the Texans
in game, you have to handle it the best that
you can. I am sure there was a conversation about
it today and I'm sure that there will be some
consequences down the road for Boy. But it's one of
those things in the game, and we talked about this
anything that happens in the game. Look, his business is

(34:30):
never personal. So if I bark at you, if I
yell the scream or whatever it is, just know it's
not coming from a place where I don't respect your value.
It's just that in the professional environment in that moment, Man,
I'm upset, so I'm gonna let you know, maybe Dimenka,
Ryan's and company. You have shared those sentiments with the team,

(34:52):
and they're okay with it being a little confrontational at
times on the sideline.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
It's kind of like you and me on this show,
really when you think about.

Speaker 4 (34:59):
Me, kind of yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, I don't know,
though I would hate for you behind the wrong end
of the shove, though I used to. I guess he
was all good into the guest shoves, and then that
made him change his mind in terms of how hard
he was gonna correct him.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
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ask Bucky and uh, let's do it. Aaron Rodgers, Bucky.
Aaron Rodgers says his future hinges on. Get this, a
new general manager and a new head coach. Who in
the hell does he think he is? Really?

Speaker 4 (35:49):
Come on, really, he's Aaron Rodgers, who's always been that,
who's always had an overinflated view of himself, and we've
played into that as media types. Four time VP, we
give him certain allowances that we don't give others. Look, man,
he's coming off a bad year. He's coming off two
years where he gave the Jets absolutely nothing. For him

(36:12):
to think that he's maybe entitled to continue to stay
on as his quarterback to me is laughable.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Now when he says something like that, I said he
may play next year if in fact he likes a
GM and head coach, does that mean he wants to
have input on the GM and head coach.

Speaker 4 (36:28):
He could want to have whatever he wants. But if
I'm the general manager, I'm not consulting with Aaron Rodgers.
Aaron Rodgers at his max is just another one year
rental for the New York Jets. I'm not investing a
lot of time and energy into what he thinks in
his opinions, if.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
He plays next year. I think they Jets have to
pay him thirty five mil, so it's unbelievable. He probably
will be back next year regardless of what the GM
and coach is. All right, your thoughts? Signer. NFL says
they're gonna have a game in Madrid next year as
well as Europe and the play paid mixo as well.
Fans are gonna lose a whole game. What's your thoughts
on the NFL having these international games.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
It's great. It continues to grow the brand, it continues
to stretch the NFL footprint overseas, and so that part
of it is great. It's hard on the players with
the travel, how you kind of manage getting over to
the destination and back. That can be tough on your
body as you have to go into another week where
you're playing. But I love it. I mean, you talked

(37:27):
about the Jaguars potentially being over there two times, maybe
three times given stadium situation. It's a part of growing
the game and if you ever have an opportunity to
go over there and watch an international game, I'm gonna
tell you, man rabbid fan base that enjoys all football,
regardless of whether their team is in it. They're always
going to show up for it.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
I think the Cincinny Bengals may be online here to
play the Dolphins in Madrid next year. There's a possibility
that'll come out in a couple of weeks. I'm sure.
Now here's a quiz for you about your good friend
Deon Sanders. Give us three reasons why Dion Sanders should
coach the Dallas Cowboys, and give me three more reasons
why he should stay at Colorado.

Speaker 4 (38:06):
Well, the three reasons why is look man, He's a
good CEO type leader. We have seen that demonstrated during
his time at Jackson State and at Colorado. He understands
Jerry Jones and the brand. And make no mistake about it,
the brand is big. Deon Sanders understands he's benefited from
the brand and he is also a brand and so
if you're from a business perspective like it only elevates

(38:30):
you in terms of what you want to do. And
it finally, the ballpart. He understands ball, He understands how
to win and Dallas haven't been a Super Bowl championaire
that makes sense. The reason why it won't work, Deon
Sanders would lose some of the control that he had
at his situation in Colorado. He's the king in Colorado.
He makes all the decisions. There's nothing that happens that
it doesn't run past him. He loses that in Dallas.

(38:52):
I don't think the ROSTA is great. They can compete,
but I can't don't know if they can compete at
a high level. And then the final thing is a
lot different coaching NFL players as opposed to college kids,
where you still have an opportunity to mentor. I think
Deanverty likes that mentorship part of it. That's why I
don't think the NFL is necessarily a great fit.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
I'm so happy in all those situations that you mentioned,
you never once mentioned money, which is great. All right,
Speaking of money, Los Angeles clip is owner of Steve
Ballman and his wife Connie did don any fifteen mili
in emergency funds for people affected by the LA wildfires.
Where is the rest of the NBA, NFL, Major League
Baseball MLS, and HL Where are they to put some
money up?

Speaker 4 (39:30):
Now?

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Come on?

Speaker 4 (39:31):
I mean did Look? Everybody wants people to kind of
pony up and eventually some people will make contributions. Look,
I appreciate the bombers doing it. They've certainly been impacted
by it, so good gesture by them.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
It really is okay. Which is bigger in the minds
of sports fans the division championship weekend, which I think
is the greatest weekend in football. Well, Monday Night's college
football title.

Speaker 4 (39:55):
Game colleor football sider game has more significance and is
bigger amongst the fans because, look, every college fan wants
their team to hoist the trophy. So yeah, that's the
bigger moment.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
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This is Fox Football Sunday. What was he reading that?

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Speaker 4 (40:45):
I'm good, Andy. What's going on?

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Greatest weekend in football, isn't it? It really is best
weekend in football.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
I mean it definitely is a great weekend. Definitely, no
doubt about that.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
All right, And we want to get into some of
the games we got. We got a game today the
Rams Eagles. And the first question I have forew with
this Rams Eagles game. Why was Eagles wide receiver Aj
Brown reading on the sidelines and that twenty two to
ten win over the package last week? Do you have
any explanation? Because I did some research on the book
he was reading what it's all about. But I want

(41:15):
to ask you, have you ever seen anybody do that
on the sidelines.

Speaker 4 (41:20):
I've never seen anybody do that, But I applaud him
for doing it. If it was if it was something
that was designed to help him keep calm and cool
in a pressure situation, I applaud him for that. We've
seen players use multiple things to try and keep their
minds right. In big pressure moments, whether that is meditating

(41:43):
on the sideline before games, after games, during games, whether
that is in listening to service, enlisting the services of
a sports psychologist to help them develop the cues to
move through these tough moments. He has certainly found a
system in terms of reading the book that helps him

(42:04):
navigate some of these difficult times that you may experience
in games. I know a lot of people made a
lot of us say that he wasn't reading whatever, But
you cannot have a tattered book with those kinds of
pages and notes without doing that in game. I just
think it's interesting. I think it's fascinating, but I think
it'll go a long way to having that conversation about

(42:24):
what do you need to do in game to make
yourself comfortable so you can be at your best.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Well, I was one of those guys initially say what
on earth is he doing? This guy's ridiculous. And I said, well,
wait a minute, he was limited to one catch for
ten yards on three targets. He's probably all po And
they just said the heck with, and I'm going to get
a book out. And then I said, well, what book
was he reading? Well, the book was written by Jim Murphy.
It's a self help book, as you mentioned, and maybe
that's what he needed. And he says he's done it before.

(42:49):
He says the book gives him a sense of peace,
and he says he always does it. According to the website.
Check the website, the book helps train your mind for
extraordinary performance and live the best possible life. It helps
you perform with freedom under pressure. All things aj Brown
has done this year and some of the book's messages
per aj Brown are, if you have a clear mind,

(43:10):
then nothing else matters, negative or positive. Be willing to
take risks. If you're humble, you can't be a bear
to others. So no matter what happens, said aj Brown,
like in the game or whatever happens, just stay free
and you know what, God bless you, aj Brown. I
got a different perspective of this guy after I read
what he has done and the book that he wrote

(43:31):
that he read. I think it's great. I really do
so the coaches and no comments by the coaching staff,
which is great as well.

Speaker 4 (43:38):
Well. Nick Sirianni defended this guy. He said, whatever players
need to do to put themselves in the right frame
of mind, they do it. For me, this is personal
because I've known AJ since he was a high school senior.
Having worked on the Nike Opening Camp circuit came across
AJ and an event in Atlanta. We've continued to stay
in contact, and for me, it's like watching a young

(44:02):
kid grow up in front of your eyes, like watching
him navigate the situations that Ole miss make his way
to the lead, become a two three time Pro Bowl
player and All Pro player. Yeah, I give him credit
for understanding what he needed. And also if you're dig
in his background, you'll see that he has had some

(44:23):
bouts with mental health issues and so for him to
find I would say, a healthy way to deal with
those things, to me, shows a lot of maturity, a
lot of growth on his part, and so I'm proud
of him for handling it that way.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Agreed. I'm with you. I'm in your corner. A lot
of times I'm not in your corner, but I'm in
your corner right now. And today, the fourteen and three
Eagles are hosting the ten and seven Rams in Philadelphia,
obviously three o'clock Eastern time, leaking financial And here's the
question right now, how could the Rams win this game? Well?
Number one. I think they got to try to stop
Sakuon Barkley back in Week twelve. Again, they played early

(44:56):
on I've in Week twelve, Barkley had a career high
two hundred and fifty five rushing yards and a win
for the Eagles. They won thirty seven to twenty. However,
I would say this, the Rams defense has improved in
the last four regular season games. They've allowed something like
thirteen points a game, So that's a plus. Jalen hurts,
He's been hurt a little bit. The passing game needs

(45:16):
to improve a little bit, but he's got the receivers,
no doubt about that. He's got that concussion. He's been
a little bit off since the concussion to see what happens.
But I gotta believe right now, the Eagles just have
too many weapons on the offensive side of the football
for the Rams to handle them. I think the Eagles win.
Although the Rams have come back big time out of nowhere.
They were down on the Dulgums and they came back.

(45:37):
Give credit to Sean McVay did a heck of a
job this year.

Speaker 4 (45:40):
He did do a great job. And what I love
about the job that Sean McVay has done is this
team was one and four, they were struggling, they were
scuffling when they got to the bye week, and they
just put their head down and they've reeled officers who wins.
I want to say maybe ten and thirteen games where
they are just I can't even say on fire. But
they have just embraced all fastest of their team offense, defense,

(46:03):
special teams. Getting the first year defense coordinator Chris Shula,
the grandson of Don Shula, has found a way to
take all these young pups on defense and put him
on the same page, put him in a scheme that
really helps them play fast, help them have a lot
of fun by being physical and overwhelming overwhelming foes Offensively,
Matthew Stafford continues to get his flowers because he is

(46:26):
one of the best quarterbacks that we've seen. We're now
seeing him paired up with a great play caller and
culture builder and Sean McVay, and as a result, we're
seeing him play at a level that many of us
missed throughout his time and tenure in Detroit. This is
an elite playmaker, elite passer, and he's finally getting his due.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
I'm going to tell you something. I've seen Chris Shula
on TV. And obviously I knew Dave when he coached
the Bengals, but I look at Chris. He looks a
lot like Don Shula. He really does good looking, doesn't he,
you know?

Speaker 4 (46:58):
And it's like Don Shul in his bault more days, right,
he does the Baltimore Coast. There are some similarities in
terms of like the way that he look in this.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
No doubt about that. And they always say that sometimes
you have to skip a generation for success. You get
the jeans right, So maybe Dave didn't really have him
for me. Chris has him right. Think about that because
they've had some problems coaching the Bengals here, good guy,
I mean, I love the should. As a matter of fact,
way back in the day, when I was working for
the Robbie family Joe Robbie and Liz and Joe owned
the Miami Dolphins, I was doing the PR work for

(47:28):
their soccer team, the Fort Little Delle Strikers. I also
did some work with the Dolphins, and the late great
Charlie Callahan was the PR director of the Miami Dolphins.
And I'm telling you when they call the news conference
and Don Shula was there and I go I mean,
you could hear a pin drop. There was like the
media was afraid to ask him a question. I mean
they really were. I've seen situations there with Bill Belichick.

(47:51):
They'll talk to Bill and Bill gave you the one
word answer. But it was a different animal with Don Shul.
I'm telling you there was a feeling of respect as
well as fear. They really amazingly.

Speaker 4 (48:02):
Yeah, he put that in you. And if you go
back and what I love is during this time of year,
you'll see the series of America's Game where they talk
about all the Super Bowl winners at the show on
the NFL Network and some other places. But to hear
those teams from the seventies, the Miami Dolphins, teams from
the seventies talk about playing for Don Shula is everything
that is good about football. The discipline, the detailed the structure,

(48:26):
how he handled it, the direct confrontations that he would
have with players to get the best effort out of them,
that old school coaching. That old school teaching resulted in
a ton of wins for Shula and why he's at
the top of the list when it comes to all
time victories. International football and he was just joined by

(48:47):
Andy Reid, who notes his three hundredth victory. And I
can tell you having played for coach Reid when he
was the tight end coach for the Green Bay Packers
and he was running the scout team that I participating
on as a defender, it is amazing the thing that
that guy, that same guy who used to hold up
the cards now has three hundred wins. Really just a

(49:08):
great testament to him, his growth, his leadership ability, and
as we're thinking about coaches in the coaching cycle, guys
who should be hired, it should be noted Andy ree
was not a coordinator when he got the job in Philadelphia.
He hadn't called plays, he hadn't coordinated in the offense.
Yet Jeffrey Lewie saw the potential in him to give

(49:31):
him the head coaching job at a time where it
should have been viewed as controversial. He has proven that
you don't have to come from the normal path to
be a great coach in this league.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
Did you have any idea, any inkling that this guy
do you working for on the scout team had any
chance of being a head coach and being as successful
as you were. Did you have a dream of him
being the head coach.

Speaker 4 (49:55):
Look, no one could foresee that Andy ree would be
one of the best coaches that we ever talked about
on this staff. For Mike Hongreen, Andy Reid went from
me in the old line tight end coach to then
being the quarterback guru who would kind of just be
the buffer between Mike Hongren and Brett favre To think

(50:15):
that he has taken those roles and responsibilities and kind
of baked him into the cake as a head coach,
to be one of the best, if not the best
head coach that we've seen in the minority. If they
pour this thing off where they win a title and
they go four and six years with five Super Bowl appearances, man,
we could talk about the greatest ever, but that conversation

(50:37):
will always have to include Andy Reid based on the
success that he is having right now at this moment, and.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Go back to the shoeless situation. I want to share
a story with you. First of all, Mercury Morris is
my guy. I love Mercury Morris. Yes, Okay, Charlie Callahan
was the PR guy and this guy was like old school.
He used to be the PR guy at a Notre
Dame and the Robbie's. He loved Notre Dame de Late
Joe Robbie, and he hired out of Notre Damecy. He
became the first PR guy of the Miami Dolphins. What
he did he used to write all the media guy's

(51:05):
phone numbers on the wall in his office. He's sleep
in his office. The guy is like he was et ceterac.
But he was a great PR guy. And I learned
a lot from the guy. Okay, So she had all
the phone numbers on the wall, and all of a sudden,
like they went on some sort of a trip or something,
and he did an advance. He went to you know,
back in the day, the PR guy would go to
the city a couple of days in advance to advance
the game. So when he came back, they painted his office.

(51:28):
They painted up all over the all the numbers he had,
He lost all his contacts. They painted the wall in
his office. He went nuts. He went great. Yet every
news to Miami Herald, Miami News, the Fort Lauda, Dell papers, everything,
All the phone numbers were on the wall in pencil
or pain on his wall. That's where he kept him.
And then when he went back. When he came back
from the road trip, they painted the office wall and
it was gone. All his numbers were gone. It was

(51:49):
it was his sight to see it really was kind
of cute.

Speaker 4 (51:52):
Interesting. I mean, look that is that is that is
an amazing story. The connection that you talk about having
with the Dolphins. Don Shuetle Mercury Morris like one of
my favorites. Obviously I was a kid when he was
doing this thing, but to see the stories and to
see how much he used to revel in the fact
that his team continue to be the only unbeaten team.

(52:14):
That crew, to me, always cracks me up when they
celebrate after the last unbeaten unbeaten team, yeah loses.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
It's really it's really a something, all right. So we
got now the game of the weekend Ravens Bills, and
it's really not the Ravens and Bills. It's Lamar Jackson
and Josh Allen. That's the game right there. And the
Ravens beat the Bills in Week four again, you know,
an early season game which really means nothing except for
father for media people like us. The Bills won that
game thirty five to ten. Don't know, the Ravens won

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that game thirty five to ten in Week four. I'm
sorry the Bills offense. They have scored at least thirty
points in thirteen games this year and the Ravens defense
they've held them to twenty one points during the regular season.
So does this game become a shootout at the defense struggle.
I just got to believe that Derrick Henry and Lamar
Jackson give the edge to the Baltimore Ravens. I get that. However,

(53:09):
if the Ravens lose, and there's a possibility if they lose,
I feel for Lamar Jackson because he's gonna at the
rap He's gonna say the people will say he's a
big stage flop and that's so bad, it's so poor.
It's a cheap shot. That's basically what it is. And
that's why I'm pulling foot Baltimore to win that game.

Speaker 4 (53:29):
I mean, look, I think he's on the line for
both guys. I will say this because Josh Allen has
never been to a Super Bowl. We can talk about
the talent, we can talk about all this stuff. He
doesn't have the MVP Awards yet, but he's regarded as
one of the most talented players that we've seen at
a position. The Buffalo Bills have not been a Super
Bowl under his watch. The difference is he comes into

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this game with a shorthanded roster, not necessarily due to injury,
but just due to the talent that they have. It
is inferior to the talent that the Baltimore Ravens have.
Everyone is going to look at that and say that
Lamar Jackson has everything he needs. He has a nineteen
hundred yard rusher and two time NFL rushing champ Derrick Henry.
He has a wealth of options around him that can

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make plays. Isaia likely Mark Andrews eight flowers if he's available,
and the offensive line is rough rugged, they find a
way to consistently get it done. And he's back by
a defense that is playing lights out heading into the tournament.
All of the pressure is similarly on Lamar Jackson to
perform because they're on the road. He is potentially a
three time MVP who hasn't been able to get his

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team to the Super Bowl. Yeah, there's a lot of pressure.
There'll be fallout in those things. But I think if
you talk about the pressure on Lamar Jackson, you have
to talk about the pressure on Josh Allen. Even though
the numbers will say coming into this game six touchdowns,
six giveaways for Jackson, the numbers are completely lopsided. I
think eleven touchdowns for Josh Allen, only two giveaways. Josh

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Allen has played well on these stages and they win. Ultimately.
It's decided about wins and losses.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
Right, And it's a lot different than the Commander's game
against the Lions, where certainly pressure on the Lions, bist
have expectations. Not so with the Commanders. There really wasn't
any pressure on then. As I say, playing with house money,
this pressure on both teams right now, this pressure on Baltimore,
this pressure on Lamar Jackson with that big stage thing
hanging over his head, and this pressure on Buffalo because

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if they lose it and said, oh here we go again,
this is the team that went the four Super Bowls
and lost all fours. That's basically they're going to say. So,
you know, it's a great game, and I think it's
going to be. It's gonna be handled, and it's gonna
be settled on one miss que, on one mistake, on
one interception, on one fumble, or maybe on a field goal.
Do you agree something like that's going to affect that game?

Speaker 4 (55:47):
Oh, I mean, it always affects it, like they are
always big plays that affect it. But I will say
more than any of that, this game will be decided
by the way Baltimore approaches this game. If Baltimore states
true to the identity as a physical, smash mouth football
team that is going to shove it down the Buffalo Bills' throats,

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they'll win, and they will win going away at the end.
But if they try to use this game as a
show and tail session for how far Lamar Jackson has
come as a player passer, how much this offense has evolved,
that's when the turnovers and the miscus can happen. But
if they keep it simple and just say, hey, we're

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going to gut the Buffalo Bills by running right at them,
they'll beat the Bills because they are the more talented team.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
And I tell you right now, I think that Baltimore
will win this game. I think the score will be
not as high as we think, but I think Bolton wins.
I think they went by a touchdown. I really do.
It's difficult. I mean, we didn't even talk about the
fact that the game is in Buffalo, which creates an advantage,
and they predict at least an inch of snow, and
the wins in Buffalo right now, which affects the passing game.

Speaker 4 (56:59):
Is definitely affect the passing game. And it's gonna be
a cold weather game supposed to be twenty seven degrees.
The thing is Lamar Jackson is thirteen and two in
cold weather games, games that are forty years below. He
plays well in that. As a running team, this has
been the conversation. No one wants to tackle when it's cold.

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The prospect of tackling a two hundred and fifty five
pounds tailback in Derrick Henry and then having to chase
behind a rabbit and Lamar Jackson is not an enviable
task for the Buffalo Bills. This is gonna be a
hard game. And I'm saying this because I truly believe it.
If the Baltimore Ravens stay true to who they are,

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I mean, we don't see them try and stretch and oh,
let's go to displace in that place. But if they
just keep it simple and run the football, run it
with the creativity that they've done it, but continue to
run the ball. They win because that's who they are.
That's how they won, and that's how they won the
first time they knocked them off.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
You know what's wonderful when you talk about basketball or
college basketball, they'll talk about, well, the coaching advantage. I
haven't here. I haven't heard that. I don't really hear
that much in the National Football League, do you. I mean,
we're talking about now, a great game, hopefully it'll be
a great game the Ravens Bills. We're not talking about

(58:18):
a coaching advantage, you know, and maybe there is a
National Football League. I don't know, but that's not basically
a factor, is it. I mean, it's all about personnel,
and more often it's all about the quarterback. Who has
the stronger quarterback and usually that team wins. Right, forget
about the coaching.

Speaker 4 (58:37):
Coaching does matter. Coaching matters in a very serious way
because the coaching part of everything is make sure the
team is prepared, giving them a game plan and really
focusing on hey this, make sure we do the things
that we do really well. Just keep it simple. In
terms of that regard, we talked about the kan City

(58:57):
Chiefs and how the kan City Chiefs are able to
do it over and over again with Travis Kelce dominating. Well,
why is that? Because the chiefs are like, we've used
this formula forever and it's been successful, and until someone
shows us that we can't do it, we're going to
continue to do it. So I dig it.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
Well, I'm hearing you say. And he was successful in Philadelphia. Obviously,
Andy Reiding successful in Kansas City as well. But again
it's the personnel. We've seen coaches flop. You know, if
I have a bad personnel. Look, let's look at the Raiders,
you know, I mean there's no quarterback. With no quarterback,
the chances of you're winning a very slim, just just
the way it is the nas A Football League. Without

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a quarterback, you're not going to win. We've seen that,
and I don't know why teams do not zero win
on that because without the quarterback, you're doomed.

Speaker 4 (59:45):
You really are, Yeah, you are, You are doomed. It
is one of those things. You got to have the quarterback,
you need to have the coach, and you gotta have enough.
You gotta have enough talent to win. But ultimately the
coach's job in the National Football League, it's a play league.
But my job is to give you the tools to
be able to be successful. Whether that's game planning, whether

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that's solving problems on game day. My job as a
coach is to do that for you. And then your
job as the talented players man, you got to go
win it. When we have opportunities, you've got to execute
the plan and you got to make the plays that
are right there. You don't have to be a superhero,
but you certainly have to be good enough to take
advantage of the things that are there, because that's what

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it's about.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
You know, I'm glad we're talking about quarterbacks for a
second here because I want to talk about this dilemma.
And the dilemma is the Deshaun Watson situation. Cleveland Browns
right now, they're going to the offseason now, they have
the second overall pick in the draft of April, and
they got eight more picks after that. But they got
an expensive situation according to their quarterback on surrounding their quarterback,
Deshaun Watson. Deshaun Watson signed the five year deal two

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hundred thirty million dollars, fully guaranteed, fully guaranteed back on
twenty twenty two. He recently reruptured his achilles after tearing
it during the season. He's coming off a third straight
disappointing season in Cleveland. He still owed ninety two million
dollars over the next two years. Remember this, though, he
did lead the NFL and passing back in twenty twenty

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with over forty eight hundred yards. What do the Cleveland
Browns do? They have a DeShawn dilemma? What happens now?

Speaker 4 (01:01:18):
Oh, it's done. I mean, if anything, like the decisions
that you have to make andy when it comes to
your team, you have to do it independent of the
money that you pay the players. Once the players are paid,
they're paid. But the decisions that you make about who
is on the field is the best players have to
play and Kevin Stefanski and the Browns have to get

(01:01:39):
back to that. It is very obvious. It's very apparent
that Deshaun Watson hasn't been the best player to play
for them at quarterback. Well, now that he has ruptured
his achilles twice, it actually gives you the freedom to
do what coaches should do anywhere, play the best players,
and so they'll find another quarterback. They'll find someone who
can play the position. Kevin Stefanski will take the play

(01:02:01):
sheet back after frying Ken Dorsey, and the Browns will
look like the Browns that we've seen for parts of
the Kevin Stefanski tenure. They'll get back to doing that. So, yeah,
the money will be the money, and everybody loves to
talk about the money. But if you're Kevin Stefanski at
the front office, our job is winning and we have
to worry about putting the best team out there and
not Deshaun Watson's feelings. To me, I don't think Deshaun

(01:02:24):
Watson plays again for the Cleveland Browns. He'll well, maybe
try and resurrect his career elsewhere. But if you're the
Cleveland Browns and you've done this experiment for three years
and you look at where you're at, man, there's no
way that you can try him out there as a
starting quarterback because he hasn't earned it. And everyone in
the locker room will tell you that he hasn't earned it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
Supplies to Kevin Stefanski survived in Cleveland.

Speaker 4 (01:02:47):
No, he's a two time Coach of the Year. They
understand what they're doing. It they made they made a
calculated gamble when it came to Deshaun Watson. It didn't
work out. You have to take swings at quarterback position, because,
as we're seeing in the tournament, you have to have
a quarterback to have a chance. In the AFC, in
particular where you have Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Pat Mahomes,

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Justin Herbert, Joe Burrow, on and on and on and on.
If you do not have an elite quarterback, you don't
have a chance. They tried with a Pro Bowl quarterback
in Deshaun Watson, but Deshaun Wasson hasn't been the same
player since he took the sabbatical in Houston. The best
thing that you can do is call a spade a spade.
It didn't work out. Let's move on. That would be

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the best course of action for the Cleveland Browns.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
Yet to go. We're gonna move on as Wealthy's Bucket Brooks.
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put bottom barrel betting on the shelf. This week we

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have a tribute to Bob Youuker. I think you'll enjoy it.
But right now, well, success is free. We'll explain that next.
Who said they're forgotten? We'll get to that in just
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(01:04:38):
talk about Bucky Brooks as a coach, a teacher, NFL player, scout,
a writer NFL dot Com. I love doing that. And
this week you wrote about and I said success is free.
The top free agents that help teams get to the
divisional around this weekend. So I got to ask you
the top ten and how did you rate them by
player performance or by the results of their team? Which

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is difficult to that, I would think.

Speaker 4 (01:05:01):
I think it's a combination. Is a combination of team performance,
talent on the roster, and the way that they're trending
in the tournament, either heading into the tournament or while
they are in the tournament. All those things matter.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
Okay, now, I said, coming into this segment, who said
they're forgotten? I'm talking about running backs? You got the
top ten? Can you believe three other top ten or
running backs on your list are the top free agents
coming into the playoffs this year? It's amazing, isn't it?
How did they let them go?

Speaker 4 (01:05:32):
I mean, well, you gotta remember, man, the position wasn't
viewed as a marquee position. It was a position that
people were talking about was devalued. You can find anybody,
and what this year has shown us, No, the running
back matters, and the better the running back, the more
balanced your offense is, the better your quarterback performs. And
with three of those guys on the list all veterans,

(01:05:52):
Sakwan Barkley, Derrick Henry, Josh Jacobs. It is something that
you have to consider and it's something that we need
to continue to look at. As you Gibbs played as
as it was the best player on the field last
night for the Detroit Lions, a first round pick that
Mini pooh pood when he was drafted. Running Backs are
critical and dependulum is swinging back into their favor after

(01:06:13):
seeing so many guys have positive impacts on the teams.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
Okay, now you said the running back position was devalued,
and I agree with you, but I think it was
devalue not because they thought it was not important. I
think it was the valuables money was shoved over somewhere else,
which basically was the receiver. And it was a passing league,
don't you agree. I mean, I think coaches, a personnel
people really knew how important the running back position is
to control the game, to move the chains, to let

(01:06:38):
the clock run when you're leading, and to set up
the passing game through the run game. They knew that,
So it was devalue. There's some money.

Speaker 4 (01:06:46):
No, I disagree with that. I disagree with that because
two of the guys on the list were dismissed by
their teams. Sakuon Barkley and anyone that watched the Hard
Knock series heard general manager Joe Shane for the New
York Giants. He was very dismissive of Saquon Barkley's in
to the team, so he obviously didn't value us a.
Kuon Barkley bought the fact that he goes to a
division rival has two thousand yards and here the rival

(01:07:09):
looks like a Super Bowl team. Yeah, that speaks to
how people on the inside viewed the position. Then you
talk about King Henry Derrick Henry was a guy who
defined the Tennessee Titans, two time rushing champ, a guy
who his physicality, his toughness were part of the identity
of the Titans. They dismissed him and let him go.

(01:07:30):
So that tells you everything. When you have two top
players dismissed by their teams because the teams didn't view
them as valuable anymore, and yet they have two thousand
yards and nineteen hundred yards respectively. Yeah, the position. And
I will say this because and I know the analytics
crow to get mad, but the smart yard, he's messed

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it up. Everyone kept telling us that we could find
a running back anywhere. That was an inefficient solution to
a problem to pay the running back When we're looking
at the running back who touches the ball twenty to
twenty five times a game as a workhorse, they matter.
But they've told us that you can find him anywhere
in the draft. You can do it by a committee.

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There's not much difference. But every defensive coach and every
defensive player will tell you there's a difference between the
elites and the guys that are just guys at the position.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
Okay, I don't think the position is devalued. I don't
think they were let go because they just didn't want them.
If I remember correctly watching Hard Knocks, I think the
question was can we fit him into our budget? That
was the question. With money. Money was the problem, okay, right,
I mean Sarah Henry and they thought there was no
stretch left on the tire with him at his.

Speaker 4 (01:08:40):
Age, okay, So they didn't think that there was any
tread left in the tire, So you didn't value him,
so you didn't want to pay him what he's worth.
Obviously there's some tread on the tire. If he goes
for nineteen hundred yards. In Sakwan Barkley's case, it is
valuing the quarterback or the running back. They value Daniel
Jones since cut at forty million dollars a year as

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opposed to being the running back twelve million a year,
even though anyone who looked at the Giants knew that
Sakwon Barkley was the straw to stirred to drink. Even
at his best, Daniel Jones had fifteen touchdowns and five interceptions.
So it is a situation where they didn't value the position.
They thought they could replace it. It was easily replaceable,
and the quarterback was more valuable to them. So as

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opposed to grading the player for the talent that they bring,
they graded the position and the positional value, which is incorrect.
Players are different. Players have to be greater for who
they are and what they bring.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
To the table, no doubt about that. And number three
on your list of the free agents was Sam Donald
Not a one year deal for ten million dollars. I'll
tell you why. He probably let that go right out
the window the way he played in the playoffs, right,
I mean, he's.

Speaker 4 (01:09:45):
So I think that's overblown the last two games were major,
major games, major moments. But at his lowest point, he
still won fourteen games. And I know people like to
have this weird relationship with quarterback wins in those things,
but he won fourteen games. I want to say he
had either twelve or thirteen games with a passer rating

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over one hundred. He had a career year, phenomenal year.
And if you put him on the open market, he's
going to be gobbled up, and he's going to be
paid at a rate that is going to make people's
head spin. At a minimum, he's a franchise player at
forty million dollars annually. At a maximum, he gets close
to fifty million annually because it's a supply and demand business.

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Some will say that he will grade out better than
any of the draft prospects in this class. Others will
say he's a top free agent on the market, and
in a league where you have Garner, Minshew and others starting,
there's a place for Sam Donald to start and a
place for people to talk themselves into saying he is
a top fifteen quarterback in the race system with the

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Ray play caller.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
All right, remembering mister baseball, that's next, all right, remembering
Bobby Yuka will do that in about two three minutes
from now, fifteen minutes before the top of the hour.
He is my partner, Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Fremanwe a
Fox Football Sunday and of course we're a life from
the tiraq dot com studios. Many moons ago when I
worked on radio in Cincinnati, WLW Radio, the home of

(01:11:10):
the Cincinnati Reds, had a chance to chat with Bob Buker.
He passed away the other day. Let's take a listen.
Joining us right now, the King of Milwaukee, Bob Buker. Yeah,
we're right here. And you know why, I want to
preface this. There are no gifts and nothing to be
getten from you for being on the air with me.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
You know what. Having you tell me there's nothing involved
outside of just a handshake is not very surprising. I've
watched you now for the last couple of days here
in Cincinnati and just watching what you do, watching what
you wear, and watching your friends or those who you
think are your friends, people laughing behind your back. But

(01:11:49):
for those people and your whole scenario, here were your studio.
This is a real nice studio in the back of
the toilet, down in the dugout and the Reds dugout.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
Well, lucky we got that.

Speaker 4 (01:11:59):
Oh, I have no with it. I'm leaving.

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
You have to stay here.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
Well, you know, I try to build you up the
best I can. I mean, they once had a beer
that made Milwaukee king, and I got to believe you
are the king of Milwaukee, you and mister Belvidere.

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
I do not need a build up. Let me tell
you that. First of all, I do not need a
build up. I enjoy myself each and every time I
come to Cincinnati. I'm I'm a big fan here. I
played here a long long actually sat here a long
long time ago, and have seen Crosley Field and three
Rivers or Riverfront and now this magnificent ballpark, great American Ballpark,

(01:12:32):
a beautiful place. And no, I like coming to Cincinnati.
I really I don't like you, but I like coming
to Cincinnati. And that's I like, you know, Marty and
Joe Nuxall and Stu and all the guys upstairs.

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
Doctor Abramson.

Speaker 1 (01:12:46):
Rick Abramson is another guy that's not a friend of mine.
I use him when I'm done using him for the day,
I'm done with him. I have nothing to do with him.
Once we leave the golf course and he picks up
the check, we're free, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
And you're one of those few guys that well, really
and truly you were much of a ballplayer, but you
became bigger in life after you took the uniform off.
How did that happen? Who'd you convince? Who'd you con
for that? Probably?

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
I learned most of that in the service, joining the
service when I was thirteen years old because I was needed,
getting out of school in the eighth grade and going
into the Army and becoming when I left the Army
a full fledged four star general at the age of sixteen,
and then went on from there manual training, learned how

(01:13:28):
to take down trees and build tanks and stuff like
that Bill Mount automobiles. Went on from there to learn
acting on my own, and it shows.

Speaker 4 (01:13:41):
It shows.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
Lee Strasburg was one of our neighbors, and I told
him everything that I knew. Of course, he went on
to a major career in New York as a fine
teacher of actors and actresses around the country. But no,
you know what I just I tried to stay out
of people's ways for the most part, which is one
of the things that bothers me about you. Evidently I
didn't stay out of your way, and you trap me

(01:14:03):
into coming onto this show, which is I know is
going to produce greater ratings than you've ever had before
and it played again tomorrow night. I'm happy for you.
I mean, you know, looking at what you do around here,
I can see why you're gonna need this show for
two days.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
Maybe three, whatever you need.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
I know it's going to be good for you. And
you know, I hope your boss is at the station,
if you do work for a station, or if this
is just something that's being taped for playing the dugout
here during the game. I'm happy for you.

Speaker 4 (01:14:29):
You know that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
I'm I've agreed to do your show, and the renumeration
is going to be nothing. I was hoping maybe to
get a tape of the show, but I see we're
not being taped, so you know, whatever you want to do,
I'm game. And you know your family and your friends,
I'm sure this is all going to be good for them.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
Too, well.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
Bob.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
You guys want to know how you parlayed that baseball
career into a Hollywood career. You've been on the Tonight Show,
You've been in the movies. How do you do that?

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
Being a real bad ballplayer? That was the easiest part
of the whole thing. I think there are a lot
of times when I got off to good starts and
I thought to myself, what are you going to do
after you finished playing? So I went right in a tank.
I think anybody in the major leagues can hit, but
for someone like myself to have the ability to either

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lift or lower the bat right at the point of impact,
it takes a lot more skill to do that than
it does to hit a baseball sooner or later. In
the Major leagues, of pitcher is going to hit your bat.
They have that kind of control. So for me to
be able to lift it or lower it right before impact.
I was a right handed didn't strikeout artist, is what

(01:15:39):
I was. Fifteen of a game, you had the lead
you needed and out. You couldn't take a chance on
a grounder or a fly ball because somebody might drop
it or kick it.

Speaker 4 (01:15:49):
I was your man.

Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
I could strike out and get the job done for you.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
Well, I know you're kind of putting yourself in a
corner right now, and I don't want you to do that.
But certainly you're in the Hall of Fame, you're in Cooperstown,
and well a thrill was that for you?

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
I should have went in as a player. That's the
one thing that bothered me. I went as a broadcaster,
as did Marty Brenneman here and a number of other people.
But I I was I liked it, it was fun,
But I still think I should have gone in as
a player. And you know what, maybe some some day
down the road, who knows, once I take a dirt bath,

(01:16:23):
maybe they'll go back and reconsider and and and maybe
I'll go in. Then, you know, it's it would be
a material to me at that time. But you know,
if indeed, you know, one of these days now while
I'm still while I'm still on on top, so to speak,
maybe to you know, I'm actually my plaque at the
Hall of Fame is outside. I'm hoping that it's weathered now.

(01:16:47):
It's been three years and it's pretty well beat up now.
I was hoping one of these years they might put
it inside. But it's around the back. If you ever
get up there, it's around the backside of the uh,
the building at Cooperstown.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
What does it like to be bigger than the ball club.
You are basically bigger than anybody who plays with the Brewers.

Speaker 1 (01:17:01):
I'm bigger than baseball. I'm not bigger than the club.
I mean, every every team is good, and every team
has great players. I think when the word baseball is mentioned,
my name would automatically come to your mind. Unfortunately, people
who think like that know nothing about baseball. But it's

(01:17:22):
a good handle that I put on myself, and I
think depending on who you do. I do that with
a lot of people who don't speak English and people
who are from other countries. I tell them and I'm
mister Baseball, and I invented the game, and I played,
and I own all the teams and everything like that.
So it's something that comes very easy to me.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
Okay, the movie Major League, you were portrayed as an
announcers not do that right? Yeah, I believe you are.
How did you take that into the booth here in Milwaukee?

Speaker 1 (01:17:50):
How do I take it into the booth?

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
Do you use the same mode of announcing or you
change your style?

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
No, actually we use the booth. That's really observant of you.
Well you are sharp.

Speaker 2 (01:18:02):
I'm trying well.

Speaker 1 (01:18:03):
I cannot believe you actually knew that we use a
booth to broadcast, but we don't down here, you know.
Oh it's good for you. I really I'm starting to
enjoy this thing. I thought you were kind of dumb,
but you're not. Yeah, the major League thing was, you know,
to do whatever I wanted and just to make it believable.
And it's something that I do during our games in Milwaukee,

(01:18:26):
depending on what the game is. I don't make fun
of players. I don't do that, but yeah, I do
a little comedy stuff if it need be, to keep
people listening and keep things interesting and have some fun
once in a while. But again, I got to go back.
I didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:18:41):
You're sharp.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
You really are. I cannot believe that you knew we
were in a booth when we did that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
I read up on it before. I got to admit that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
Well, I don't care if you read up on it
or not. For you to bring it up like that
just out of the blue is totally amazing to me.
You are. You are a lot better than I thought
you were.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
I got to leave you with this. I mean, I
gotta believe it. Man, with your charisma, you're wasting your
time at baseball. You should be in politics.

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
I think you're wasting your time and what you're doing too.
A lot of people have said that, you know what,
that's not surprising at all. I think this is a
waste of my time and yours. As a matter of fact,
Thank you very much, Thank you, Bob Youker.

Speaker 2 (01:19:16):
I hope you didn't waste your time with this. Bucky
Brooks a little bit of a remembrance to the late
Bob Byuker missed the baseball, truly missed baseball.

Speaker 4 (01:19:24):
Yeah. Look, having grown up being a big time baseball fan,
who doesn't know Bobyucker and his calls and his wit
and his charm all the day came through in the interview.
He's dismissive of you, Andy, but you're a good sport.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
Well, it wasn't much of an interview. I was like
a punching bag and that's okay. And some people have
asked me at the time, was that script that I said? No,
I just stood there and he just beat the living
daylights out of him. Maybe that's Bob Uker. And you know,
after that, he sent me an autograph, big plaque of himself,
which I still have. He's the act of a guy,
and he was act of a guy. And he will
be missed in Major League Baseball. He was the man.

(01:19:57):
He was mister baseball.

Speaker 4 (01:20:00):
He certainly was mister baseball. He will be miss There
we go.

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
All right, joining us next the one and only swollen
doll Mike Harmon here on Fox coming up next. Stay
with us,

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