Fox Football Sunday: Andy Furman & Bucky Brooks talk Super Bowl LIX and More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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How are you, buck?

Speaker 3 (00:35):
I'm good man. How are you doing?

Speaker 4 (00:37):
How come you are not at the Super Bowl?

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Of all people, on the face of God's green earth,
you should be at the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
Why aren't you there?

Speaker 5 (00:44):
Because I'm doing studio work for NFL Network in Laa.

Speaker 4 (00:49):
All right there, Oh that's perfect.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
I get it now, because I figure if anybody should
be at the Super bullets you and I'm gonna run
this by you. And maybe it's just me. I just
had a feeling this week. It wasn't the hype that
I normally felt going into a Super Bowl. Maybe because
these two teams met two years ago. I don't know,
Maybe because the hatred towards Kansas City. I don't know
what it is, but the hype to me was not

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as hyper as it usually is.

Speaker 5 (01:17):
Well, I mean, I think maybe for Kansas City, maybe
there's some fatigue because you've seen them five times in
six years, so everyone kind of knows. Whatever stories that
you normally uncover super Bowl time, we've already uncovered those stories,
like the last five times they've been there for the Phild,
the for Eagles, because they were there so recently, the
only new story is kind of like Sakwon Barkley, the

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new coordinators and those things. I think that's the difference
to familiarity because these teams were on this stage a
couple of years ago. I do feel like there's this,
I won't say this, this this old or boying feel
to it, but it's kind of like the same old
hat like just another story.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
You're right, I got the same feeling as well. Now.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
I don't remember what teams you and I discussed way
back in July or August of who might meet in
the Super Bowl, But are you surprised with these two teams.
I don't recall did you pick either one of these
two teams to be in the Super Bowl?

Speaker 3 (02:12):
No, I mean it was so longer, who knows, I
can't remember.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
I would just say that I am not surprised that
both teams are in the Super Bowl. I would say
the can cit the Chiefs because coming off back to backs,
they've kind of mastered the art of winning, and that
always makes them a formidable foe. They didn't have like
serious or significant injuries, which gave them a chance to
defend their back.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
To back titles.

Speaker 5 (02:36):
The Philadelphia Eagles were one of the most talented teams
in the league. Them in Baltimore Detroit. You kind of
felt like those teams were good enough to put themselves
in the Final four and maybe pushed through. So for
the Philadelphia Eagles, I'm not surprised that they're there.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
It's just a matter of like.

Speaker 5 (02:52):
You can have all the talent in the world, but
the pieces of the puzzle have to come together, and
they came together for the Eagles.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
They certainly did.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
And I keep on remembering what you say said over
and over again because during the weeks we play bottom
barrel betting and sometimes we take Kansas City, don't take
Kansas City.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
And you always tell me, until.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
They're knocked off the crown, don't bet against them. And
I think there's a lot of people going with the
Eagles today and we'll get it to this heavily as
we roll down the next two hours and so two
plus hours. But you know, until someone knocks them off,
they're still the champs. And I keep on remembering what
you say about that. Even though I look at the
Eagles and their personnel is so strong, I think they're

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just man Fa Manda are a better team than the
Kansas City Chiefs. But again, as Bucky brook says, until
they're knocked off the crown, they're the champion.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
Don't bet against them.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah, until someone beats them, not, you can't bet against them.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
And that's the thing, it's the evidence of watching someone
actually finish the deal. A lot of times, the Kansas
City Chiefs just wait for the other team to implode.
They've been successful because they execute in the high leverage
moments of games where other teams falter. And that has
been recipe and some of us kind of deem it

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to be fluky and luck and all this other stuff
I just say it's kind of the thing that happens
when you're a champ.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
When you're a champion and you learn how to win, not.

Speaker 5 (04:11):
That it gets easier, but you understand when to insert
yourself when you have to make a play. The moment
doesn't get too big because you've done it time and
time again.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
That's what we can see. The Chiefs sit downe They.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Made those gay plays in big moments, right, and they
got the players to get it done too.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
Now we talk about surprise.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
I think the real big surprise right now, Josh Allen
of the Buffalo Bills, their quarterback, was named the MVP.
He gets twenty seven first place votes. The total three
or eighty three points. Lamar Jackson twenty three first place
votes three P sixty two. All Right, I don't get it.
I really don't. You look at statistics, and maybe statistics
don't count. Josh Allen trailed Lamar Jackson in almost every

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stack category as.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
Far as quarterbacks are concerned. I don't get it. I
don't understand how he gets it.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Maybe they thought that Josh Allen did more with less
talent because Stefan Digson gave Davis were not there this year.
But I kind of liked on TMZ earlier this week.
I kind of like what the Hall of Famer Jonathan Oulton.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
Have to say.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
They gave it to Josh. Yes, he's a great quarterback,
but he had not won an MVP. Lamar had two,
and everybody said, well, let's just give him one. That's
what Jonathan Outen said, and I believe him. I really
believe him.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yeah, I mean this truth to that.

Speaker 5 (05:27):
There was Lamar Jackson fatigue, and there was this thing
like poor old Joshi. Let's give poor Joshi one because
he had one one now he's deserving. And I could
see it being a thing because there was a stretch
in the season where they knocked off the Detroit Lions
and the LA Rams and back to back weeks. Those
games were national televised games, being theated the game of
the week, so everyone had a chance to see him

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do his thing, and he was spectacular. I saw him
on a Monday night against the Jackson and Jaguars. He
dominated the game. That said, his numbers were not quite
the same as Lamar Jackson. Let me also prevent people
from completely dumping on Josh Allen. So they've only been
three quarterbacks in NFL history who have had forty total

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touchdowns five hundred plus yards and they've had fewer than
seven interceptions. Those guys are Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen.
Because Lamar Jackson has done it twice, Josh Allen has
done it this year, and both of those guys did
it this year. So the year that he had, it's
certainly worthy of being recognized as one of the best

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years in NFL history. The issue that you have is
is the award most valuable or most outstanding? Because if
you go most outstanding, then which is normally done, Lamar
Jackson probably would be most outstanding based on the stats
that you reference. Most valuable, I mean you can split
the baby in terms of like who's more valuable to

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the team. And in fact, if you say most valuable,
I would then contend that that brings Saquon Barkley into
the conversation based on his.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Impact on the Eagles.

Speaker 5 (07:00):
But what we have and you saw the narrative start
forming over the course of the year. Sometimes as media members,
we love storylines, right, and so in the middle of
the year, you start talking about Josh Allen, MVP, Josh
Allen MVP Josh Allen MVP.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
And perception becomes reality.

Speaker 5 (07:16):
And so at the end of the year, a lot
of people that touted that voted that. The thing that
I like that's coming out about all of this is
the transparency when they pulled the votes, and they pulled
the voters and they showed who voted first, second, third, fourth,
and fifth. Now you have a level of accountability. I
think Jim Miller voted Lamar Jackson fourth in the MVP.

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They deal with that, which is ludicrous, right, It's ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
There were people that had Pat Mahomes.

Speaker 5 (07:45):
Third, which is also ridiculous given the numbers and given
how the cancit the Chiefs had won, didn't necessarily went
because Pat Mahomes. They weren't because of the defense and
other parts of the team. So look, hold everybody accountable
so we can see that, and so maybe the next.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Time we have these votes.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
I'm not saying that it changed the results, but I
think people have to think twice about who they selecting
these situations.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
I'm not even gonna argue for Saquon Barkley because I've
given up. I put up the flag saying look, they're
going to have changed the name of the award to the
quarterback Most Valuable because it is a quarterback trophy, all right,
but sake Quan should.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
Have gotten it. I'm not even going to go down
that road because it's ludicrous, it really is.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
But I will say this, Lamar Jackson won the MVP
in nineteen and he won it in twenty twenty three.
This year, his stats were better than both those years,
so I guess it's not a statistical trophy.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
I don't know what it is.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
He had a career high of forty one seventy two
passing yards. He had forty one touchdowns this year. That
was the first number one ranking in offense for his team.
He began the first player in league history to produce
more than four thousand yards passing and nine hundred yards
plus in rushing the same season. And he didn't get
the award, but it got it nineteen and twenty three,

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and these stats it better.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
I don't get it. I really don't.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Yeah, I mean it's look, it's one of those things.

Speaker 5 (09:06):
It was, as they would say, like for Josh Allen,
it was his time, and it was his time because
people decided to make it his time.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
Nothing with Lamar Jackson and those things.

Speaker 5 (09:16):
The people decided that they wanted Josh Allen to be
the MVP, so Josh Allen was the MVP. It reminds
me a lot of the times in the NBA when
Michael Jordan was clearly the best player, but the award
went to Charles Barkley or the award.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
Went to Carl Malone.

Speaker 5 (09:32):
Those things sometimes happened, but that's what it was. I mean,
maybe even Steve Nash winning over Shack a couple of times.
You know, we decide to fall in love with certain guys,
and certain guys benefit from kind of being the anointed
one in media circles.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
The only award that I'll say, okay, I agree, the
Offensive Rookie of the Year Jaden Danes. There's no problem there.
He's got that hands down. Okay, Defensive Player of the Year.
I mean, I'm not doing this because I'm a homer here,
but Trey Hendrickson led the league in sacks eleven may
even Miles Garrett maybe could have gotten it, but Patrick's curtain.
I mean, really, a quarterback is the first quarterback like

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in five years to win the award. I don't understand
who's doing the voting here. Were you happy with the
certain deal of Defensive Player of the Year.

Speaker 5 (10:20):
You know, I think it was a year where no
one necessarily jumped out and distinguished himself. For the longest time,
I thought Xavier McKinnie was gonna have an opportunity to
win it because he had so many interceptions early came
out of the box quickly. Then when it came to
the sack artist, the guys at the top, So Trey Hendrickson,
for instance, he is dominating, but he's on a bad team.

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So do you reward the numbers or do you reward
the impact? Because despite his numbers, it didn't have enough
impact on the team's bottom line. Patrick Deontan played for
a really good defense. The Broncos came out of nowhere
and we're playing well. I could see some of it
is this different. I think it was a year where
there were a lot of really good performances, not enough

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great performances. And then at that point you're trying to
pick the best of the best, and so Pat Mahomes,
I mean Pettin Pat Mahomes passer ten ends up winning.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah, you talked about playing on the bad teams, about
Joe Burrow. They got the Combat Player of the Year.
They give it to Joe Burrow. I guess they felt
that they had to give Burrow something. But how does
Sam Darnold not get the Comeback Player of the Year.
This guy was a benchwarmer. This guy couldn't make it
on the Jets, really, and he came there. His coach
in Minnesota basically was Coach of the Year. How could
he not be the Comeback Player of the Year because

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he helped his coach get that award. It's crazy, really,
I get it. Joe Burrow had great stats. I guess
they didn't know what to give Borrow. He led the
NFL with for four nine hundred plus yards and forty
three touchdown passes, So you got to give the guy something.
But his team was so bad, so I give him
the Comeback Player of the Year.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
I don't get it. And he's won this award twice.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
You know, Comeback Player of the Year to me is
not because you were injured and come back. It's like
when Joe Flappol came off the couch and played. That's
a comeback Player of the Year. Not being injured and
coming back. It's like doing nothing and doing something after that.

Speaker 5 (12:11):
Well, I think they changed the turns because the Joe
Flaccol thing frustrated some people because they were saying, what
did he come back from? He just came back from
not playing like that doesn't necessarily match the spirit or
the intention of the award. With Sam Darnold, I guess
they were saying the same, like, he didn't come back
from catastrophic.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
Injury or anything like that.

Speaker 5 (12:32):
He just had an opportunity to play, and he played
better than anybody anticipate.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
But it came back for the pet that's what he did.

Speaker 5 (12:38):
Yeah, So that that troublesome, but he still ended up
on maybe thirteen fifteen ballots despite not necessarily being eligible
for the award given those terms. Look, I felt like
Joe burd was going to win it coming off of
what he came off of and the way that he
performed because people were trying to throw him into the
MVP race given his numbers.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Yeah, you want everyone to come away with the trophy.

Speaker 5 (13:02):
So I can tell you this as a coach of
a high school team and you're thinking about the awards
that you married out, are you like Diskyd Diskyid Diskyid
They all are worthy of trophies let's make sure we
give them something to recognize what their contributions to the squad.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
I hate it you saying I did some believe it
and I did a little research out of this voting works,
and you apply no other but the MVP award voted
on by fifty voters who were all selected by the
Associated Press. The same fifty voters also vote on the
All Pro team, and Lamar Jackson was voted the first
team All Pro Quarterback.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
It's amazing.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
So Jackson got thirty of the fifty first place votes
in the All Pro voting and Josh Allen.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
Only got eighteen.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
And that's important that you got to note that because
the old Pro quarterback always ends up getting the MVP.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
Wanted.

Speaker 5 (13:54):
They wanted to make sure that both guys they were
trying to split the baby. They're trying to make sure
that both guys walked away happy. So you give Lamar
Jackson All Pro and then you give Josh Allen MVP.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
That was the way that they thought.

Speaker 5 (14:11):
They could satisfy both people. You know, so both guys
walk away at the awards banquet with hardware. That's what
they wanted to make sure it happen. And that's what
ultimately happened.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Okay, you played the game song on a get like
you pull the curtain back a little bit. Do players
really care about these awards except maybe some of them
get like a cash bonus if they get an award?

Speaker 4 (14:32):
Is it that big of a deal?

Speaker 2 (14:33):
I mean, Lamar Jackson to me, would rather be carrying
the Super Bowl Trophy than any MVP trophy.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
I think maybe I'm wrong.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
It does matter.

Speaker 5 (14:42):
I don't know if they care about what those things,
how it impacts you now, but it certainly matters when
you get down to Hall of Fame stuff. When you
start talking about getting the gold jacket? What do people contemplate?
How many MVPs, how many all pros? What you were
able to do? We can talk about ring culture, but
after rings, it comes down to where you won the

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dominant players in the league.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
Were you the elite of the elites. Well, when you
have an MVP on your.

Speaker 5 (15:08):
Resume, it fortifies your case to be in a Gold
jacket recipient down down the line.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
So yeah, like it matters, It matters.

Speaker 5 (15:19):
I'll say, it has a significant impact on how players
legacies are built and how people view those players.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
So it matters to them for sure.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
I'm glad you brought up the Rings situation there because
I was shocked. I mean, really and truly I thought
just a name in fact would get him into the
Hall of Fame.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
And I'm talking about Eli Manning, the quarterback of the Giants.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
And look, I did say this to your way back
when I said I don't think he was a Hall
of Famer. Going back now, looking at stats, I'm gonna
say this. He had two playoff runs, pretty good playoff runs.
Two Super Bowl wins over the New England Patriots, Okay,
two Super Bowl MVPs. And the statistics I had no
idea in the top ten old time in passing yards

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over fifty seven thousand yards top ten, and touchdowns three
into sixty six. This is when they retired in twenty nineteen.
And I know his record as a quarterback was just
of a five hundred. But looking at this now, Dan
Fouts was two games of a five hundred, and War
a Moon was a game of a five hundred, and
they're in the Hall of Fame. So I've changed my tune.
I think Eli Manning is a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
Yeah, I don't. I disagree with you. I don't think
he's a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
I haven't thought it was until Yeah.

Speaker 5 (16:26):
Like those stats are nice, but they're like a bag
of potato chips, right, they're empty calories. Right, So you're
just talking about being on a bad team. So if
you're on a bad team, because you said his record
is right at five hundred, that means you're chasing points.
So what does that mean? You bring up a lot
of stats at the end of games that don't have
any meaning.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Or impact on the game.

Speaker 5 (16:44):
You can talk about touchdowns and those things. I think
what matters more is I think he led the league
in interceptions three or four times in his career.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
That's bad.

Speaker 5 (16:53):
There's nothing that you can tell me that's good about
being the inception interception leader in the National Football League
at the end of a season and to do it
three times, to me, that's problematic. I know people say,
we'll Brett Fare's up there, no risk it, no biscuit.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
YadA, YadA YadA.

Speaker 5 (17:06):
But at no point did we ever feel like Eli
Manni was the best quarterback in the league. I don't
know if there was a consistent stretch where we ever
felt like Eli Manning was a top five quarterback in
the league doing.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
His I've been down that road with you.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
I've agree with you until the Hall of Fame statistics
came out and I read now I said wow, because
I was with you all the way. I never thought
he was a Hall of Fame or the big woop
pick got two Super Bowls.

Speaker 4 (17:30):
Okay, I get it.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
But the point is that I thought if he would
get in it because of his name, and now I'm saying, well,
maybe he should get in. I do believe I think
you might believe this too. I think he eventually will
get in.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
Oh, He's gonna get in.

Speaker 5 (17:42):
I just knew he wasn't going to get in as
the first ballot. Like as people distinguish and separate Hall
of Famers, I mean as they talk about like they're
being multiple wings in the Hall of Fame, like their
levels to it. Yeah, first ballot Hall of Famers are
seeing as guys that are unbelievable, transcendent talents you can't deny.
Which is why it was so bad that I don't

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think Too was let in on his first ballot, but
Randy Moss was.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
But when you look at Randy Moss.

Speaker 5 (18:08):
And Too's stats, they're nearly identical, nearly identical, and so
some of the popularity contest comes in, and that's why
Eli will eventually get in because he is so popular
and the manning name is royalty.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
And football circles.

Speaker 5 (18:21):
But I'm okay with him waiting, and I'm also okay
with him waiting, so Sterling and Shannon Sharp could be
the first brothers to go into Hall of Fame.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
That was pretty neat too, It really was. I will
tell you this.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
I was impressed to note that after sixteen seasons in
the National Football League, he never missed a game because
of injury.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
That's pretty good. Yeah, that's a pretty good deal.

Speaker 5 (18:41):
Would Eli, Well, I mean there's something too showing up
every day, and I can respect him showing up every
day and doing his job and being available. Those things
are important, so I look, I respect it. I also
respect two time Super Bowl champion. I was in the
building for two of those when he made improbable play
to really seal the deal for his team.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
He is worthy.

Speaker 5 (19:03):
He's one of the best playoff quarterbacks that we've seen.
The problem is his team didn't go to the playoffs
enough they want. When they went, they won, but they
didn't go a lot you know, so it's just a
weird football history football career to determine whether he's a
gold jacket guy, whether he's worthy of being a gold

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jacket guy or not.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
You know, it's funny because it's not that big of
a deal not getting into the first time.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
It really is.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Michael Strahan did not get in the first time. Terrell
Owens is not a first timer. John Rander was not
a first timer. However, I'll never forget what Pete Rose
may he rest in peace told me way back when
he said this about the Baseball Hall of Fame. If
you don't get in the first time, you shouldn't get
in at all, because you don't get better over time.
It kind of makes sense because you see these guys

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on the Hall of Fame Baseball ballot, it looks like
they're on there forever, and eventually they do get in,
and they don't get into the ballot, they get on
the veterans mini deal. So what Pete said made some sense, Like,
you don't get in the first time, forget it. You
shouldn't get in because again, you're gonna keep on getting
on that ballot and you're not getting any better.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
Your stats don't get better.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
No, I mean your stats don't get better. I see
Summer the point.

Speaker 5 (20:16):
But if you're talking about putting a cap on the
number of guys that goes into the Hall each year, man,
it's hard to hold it so firm where you only
get one opportunity to kind of show and prove whether
you can go or not.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
You know, that makes it tough. That makes it a
tougher a tougher hustle when it came.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
And eventually, if you don't get in, you're gonna get
off the ballot. You you forget it. If you know,
if you don't get an X amount of years, you
know your time is up and you're off the ballot.
You're not gonna go into the Hall. That's the way
it is. But they do have that Veterans Committee in
Major League Baseball, meaning I'll never figure, well when Bill
Masarowski got in. I mean Bill Masarowski's claimed the fame
with the Pittsburgh Pirates in nineteen sixty when the Pirates

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won the World Series hit that home run. Other than that,
I don't he's got like a career average like two sixty.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
I never thought Bill Zarowski was a Hall of famer. Sorry,
that's my take on that that was a Veterans Committee deal.

Speaker 5 (21:07):
Who knows, Okay, I mean, I think the Veterans Committee
is worthy because I think what they're able to do
is to kind of take some of the emotion out
and to be able to really look at the veterans'
careers versus those of others who've been admitted. I think
sometimes when you're on that initial slate, that initial ballot,
it's about the hearing. Now it's about hot names, numbers,

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all those other things. I think there's some levity to
the situation when when you go to the seniors or
the Veterans Committee in both sports.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
But I've always felt that the Veterans Committee is like,
we're going to take care of one of our own,
you know, the old guys say, oh, let's let's let
him in.

Speaker 4 (21:44):
He's one of us.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
You know.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
Maybe I'm wrong, the good old boys system let him in.
Maybe I just felt that way.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
I didn't even think they should have a veterans committee,
just the right regular voters get in. If you're not in, Sorry,
that's it, biggie m No.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
That's that's a lot a lot.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
I mean, it's wanted to be.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
In the Hall of Fame. I mean, be it football, baseball, best,
whatever it may be. I just don't think any any
any schmucks should go to the Hall of Fame. I mean,
you really have to be heading shoulders above others to
get into.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
The Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
And maybe that's why I'm going to I'm wavering now
on Eli Manning. Maybe he's not heading shoulders over the
rest of the crew.

Speaker 5 (22:26):
I mean I would agree with I agree with you
on that, but and I think a lot of these things,
like what happens is the numbers are going to get
so clouded, right because as we've changed errors, we've changed emphasis,
particularly on offense. We went from being a running league
three years and the cloud of us to being a
passing league. And so the numbers that you made reference

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with a Damn Marino, a Dan Fous they're not applicable
now because what they were doing back then was I mean,
it was unheard of, you know, it was eye popping.
Now Dan Marino's numbers in a regular season would just
be like, Okay, you had another four thousand yards season.
That's great, you know, And so I think death was
hard when it comes to like box score scouting and comparing.

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You just can't put enough context around the eras that
different players played in.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
There's no doubt.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
I mean, when Jim Brown played's good rushed for one
thousand yards, he was doing in a twelve game season
or a fourteen game season. Now the same barometer is
a thousand yards. But they're doing getting seventeen games and
no one puts an asterisk next to it, makes a
big deal about it. I mean, people and the media
people are crazy because say, oh, he rushed for one
thousand yards, Hey, pull the last dirut next to it.

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He did it in seventeen games. There were players that
did it in twelve or fourteen games. That was something
when they did it back then. I mean, it's still
a big deal to rush for one thousand yards, I
believe me. And what Saquon did two thousand plus it's
unheard of, it really is. But this seventeen games, not
a play, not fourteen.

Speaker 5 (23:58):
Yeah, I mean that it certainly changes the thing. And
that's why I'm saying. The numbers are the numbers, but
we like to use the numbers to back arguments, and
unfortunately the numbers don't have the same context as they
did because they aren't. All the numbers aren't valued equally,
so it's hard to determine certain cases based on these

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numbers arguments because it's different.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
You're talking about different errors.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
You're exactly right talking about numbers. We have a phone
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And of course we are live from the tire Rack
dot Com studios. Now let's get into this over here,
Bucky Brooks, because we've got the two Super Bowl coaches,
Nick Sirianni of the Eagles and Andy Reid with the
Kansas City Chiefs. And I didn't know this until just
the other day that Nick Sirianni is up for his contract.

(26:00):
Is contract is up after this season and it looks
like a win in the.

Speaker 4 (26:05):
Super Bowl will really push him over the topic.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Because if you look at so Man, these rookie head coaches,
they've really bumped up the salary structure of the head
coaching situation from ten million to thirteen million a year
on waded to the new head coach Ben Johnson. Right now,
he's getting like thirteen mil Siani only makes seven million dollars,
one of the lowest paid NFL head coaches. He signed

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a five year, thirty five million dollar deal in January
of twenty twenty one, and that's going.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
To expire after this year.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
All Right, he's forty eight and twenty in the regular season.
But here is another thing which I don't like. I
don't like the idea that everybody's salary is listed out there.
I mean, I don't know how you feel about that.
You know, media people talk about salaries and what ownership
should do with contracts and budgets and whatever. You know,
I'd like to know what these media people make, you know,
I think it's a personal thing.

Speaker 4 (26:56):
Salaries.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Okay, I know I'm talking about Seriani's deal. It was well,
but so we mentioned it right now in a big
win today, We'll push them over the hump, no doubt
about that. But what's your take on people talking about
other people's salaries. I don't like it. I don't want
to know what my coworkers here and Fox make. It's
none of my business.

Speaker 5 (27:14):
Well, I mean, if players salaries are publick, and coaches
and everybody else's salaries should be public. It shouldn't just
be the players that are subject to oh we need
to dump them. Let's just think about the Cleveland Browns
in their situation with Deshaun Watson. A lot of the
vitriol that Deshaun Watson receives is less about the allegations

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and the civil suits and more about the money and
people hating the amount of money that he makes given
the circumstances and situations around him. Whereas if we do
the same thing when it comes to coaches and those things,
I think we should put all that stuff out there.
If we're going to do it for the players, then
you have to do it for the players and everyone
around the game. To me, that's how it should be.

(27:57):
It can't be a we're going to hide it in
this area but disclosing in other areas. Now, if you
want transparency where we see what people are making to
put it out there for everybody to see.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
I'm with you, you know.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
And as far as to the Shaun Watson situation that
changed the entire landscape for quarterback salaries, it really did.
And I gotta believe it maybe on way off based
on this, but I gotta believe it's not the Cleveland
Browns that released the money.

Speaker 4 (28:18):
I think it's the agents. I think the agents do it,
don't you think. I mean it's the agents go to the.

Speaker 5 (28:22):
Media, and yeah, they are doing it because they're trying
to attract more clientele. Right. Part of the selling thing
is look at the contracts that we were able to
get for X, Y and Z player.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
You come with us, this is what we can do
for you. That is the agents selling that.

Speaker 5 (28:38):
It's much like a real estate agent, right, like kind
of showing which homes they've sold and which ones they
currently have on the market. In those things, that's part
of the sale. That's part of the spend of the business.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
You know, doubt about that. Okay, we talk about these
two coaches right now in Syriana. He's got a lot
on the line today. I'm sure the last thing on
his mind is his contract today, But you know it's
back there. Sure they got common bondsers and losers, and
both these coaches, believe it or not, we're fired.

Speaker 4 (29:03):
Okay. The Eagles went two and two.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
This year after they lost to Tampa Bay, remember that
way back when in October I think it was, and
the fans wanted his head, they wanted to have gone.
And then when the Eagles beat the Browns back in
October again, Syriani got into it with some of the
fans after the game.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
That was great.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
I mean, you know, they were mocking him and he
went crazy on them. He should have just walked away.
Siriani right now the sixth NFL coach to reach the
playoffs in each.

Speaker 4 (29:25):
Of its first four seasons.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
He's a winning percentage of over seventy percent, third best
among coaches during the Super Bowl era. That's a minimum
fifty games. I mean, he gets he gets a bad rap.
He's a pretty pretty good coach as far as records concerned.

Speaker 4 (29:41):
I know he's got a great team, but he's done
a pretty good job. Really.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (29:45):
A lot of people that have had great teams, great
individual like rosses with great talent, but haven't been able
to teach them to win. He's won a lot of games.
And love him, I hate him. You can't deny that
he's a really good coach. He fixed the Eagles when
they were struggling this year. He had them bounced back
from a disappointing year a season ago. That to me,
speaks volumes about his ability to identify problems, to solve problems,

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and to get his team headed in the right direction.
Two super bowls and five years is nothing to sneeze at. Like,
if he wins today, he has.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
To do it.

Speaker 5 (30:19):
The only thing I don't like about sirianni situation. The
Eagles have all the leverage. He can't necessarily play hardball because.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
There's not another job that's available.

Speaker 5 (30:28):
So if he wants the job, and if the Eagles
are dead set on not paying him top of the
market money, what does Nick Sirianni do Because the perception
on him about not being good in those things Dad
lingers and we know perception comes reality. Would how does
the rest of the football world view him as a coach?
That makes it a real tricky thing when it comes

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to negotiation for Sirianni.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
No, do you know dot about that?

Speaker 2 (30:54):
But you look at the rookie coaches of the Ben
Johnson's at the world getting thirteen millions. The guys have
a coach who was a head coach before, so we'll
see what happens. But moving over to Andy Reid back
in all three he was with the Eagles started the
season on one two, lost those games with a combined
score of forty eight to ten. Eagles did go on
to twelve and two the rest of the way. He
made it to the NFC Championship Game, made it to

(31:14):
the Super Bowl the next year. However, after twenty twelve,
believe it or not, Andy Reid was fired by the Eagles.
He lasted fourteen seasons with the Eagles, five NFC Championship games.
Both coaches were fired, won basically by the fans and
by the media Seriani, and won by the ball club,
which is Andy Reid, and they are the two of
the most successful coaches in the history of the Philadelphia Eagles.

(31:35):
Go figure that go figure.

Speaker 5 (31:39):
Yeah, I mean go figure, but also speaks to the
this is the landscape pro football, pro sports.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Everybody spicks their.

Speaker 5 (31:46):
Teams to win all the time, and when the teams
don't win, the first got to blame as the coach.
Andy Reid had a successful run, an unprecedent run of
success in Philadelphia, the number of NFC Championship games that
they were able to get to, though it only results
in one Super Bowl appearance and they didn't win that one. Look,
he made the team a perennial power in the NFC.

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There's a belief or thought that his messaging had gotten
stale in the locker room. So Jeffrey Leurie wanted to
make a change, wanted to bring some fresh blood into
the organization, so they moved on from Andy Reid. Andy Reid,
to his credit, goes to Kansas City without much of
a break. I would say learns from some of those

(32:29):
lessons that he had to experience in Philly, and he
has made the King City Chiefs into a juggernaut. And
that probably doesn't happen if he doesn't get let go
from Philly because he didn't have to do the self
reflection that was necessary, that was needed to help him
become the coaching figure that he's become. Sometimes Jerry's good

(32:49):
in being let go from a job because it does
force you to do a swat analysis of yourself. See
what your strengths and weaknesses are and figure out how
to become a better coach.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
But isn't it money that more often than not, the
guy that lets you go it fires you has no
background in the sport as well.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
Think about that.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
I mean, look at New England, all right, the Giants
do Sae Kwon Barkley going? That was crazy? I mean,
I mean situations like that. And Laurie in Philadelphia, what
position did he play in the NFL? I mean, it's crazy,
isn't it. Guys never played the game and they're making
football decisions.

Speaker 5 (33:21):
Yeah, but they have the money, and they have the
money and they have the ability to run a business.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Make no mistake. As much as I love the game,
the game is.

Speaker 5 (33:29):
About business and it's about building a fun product. But
in real time, the product is going to make money
regardless of what the team wins or not. I mean,
just look at how these franchise valuations go up the
Cincinnati Bengals. Look at how rich the Brown family is

(33:50):
off of the evaluation of the ball club. Let's think about
the Jerry Jones investment and what he bought the cowboysh
for I think one hundred and eighty million. Now they
are ten billion dollar franchise. The business is always booming.
And some of the decisions that you make, our football decisions,
but they're made with an eye tours business and what
will help the bottom line.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
Right, It's amazing.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
We'll get into the Chiefs coming up in so much
more because I want to talk about comparing the Chiefs
back in twenty twenty two as fair as the Chiefs
this year offensively what they did. We'll do that and
so much more. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Firman. We
have Fox for Football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. And
again it's that time. It is that time. What is

(34:31):
that time? It's it's Bucky and it is freaking next.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 4 (34:39):
It's Bucky coming right up. That's Bucky Brooks.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
I'm Andy Furman, and we have Fox Football Sunday on
Fox Sports Radio about eleven minutes before the top of
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Speaker 4 (34:50):
It's Bucky. Here we go, all right.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Rick Patino, basketball coach at Saint John's University. There are
at top of the Big easton basketball. Should he take
Saint john'son the tournament. It will be his sixth school
in the tournament. For him, his record is fifty three
and eighteen in the NC Double A tournament. He should
be the College Coach of the Year this year. Where

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do you rate Rick Pattino all time as a coach?

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (35:17):
He's one of the best ever done it, going all
the way back to when he took Providence. He deserves
that kind of respect. And I know there's always been
kind of scandaled around him, right, There's always kind of
been for some a sleazy nature. I have a ton
of respect for him in terms of what he's able
to do. He has turned underdogs into powers. He's taken

(35:38):
old school powerhouses and remade them into powers.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
He did it.

Speaker 5 (35:42):
At Kentucky in Louisville respectively, the work that he did
at Iona before taking over Saint John's. Because I grew
up at a time when Saint John's was a powerhouse.
He's built them back the things that he believe in.
I love conditioning, discipline, attention to detail. He deserves it
because this Saint John's team is fan tasting. They took
Yukon to task on Friday night. They deserve everything, they get,

(36:06):
all the praise she'd go to them.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
I am impressed that you remember that Patino coached the
Gales of Iona. I'm impressed.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
I am.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
I'll give you a stock for this job. I understand
a lot of people don't know.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Hey, a lot of people don't even know where Iona
is or what I owner is the Gales in New Richmond,
New York, where Rob Petrie used to live with Laura Petrie.
New Richmond, New Rochelle, I'm sorry. In New Rochelle on
the Dickens also.

Speaker 5 (36:29):
Known as New Rock City. Some people would call that right, like,
I understand what he's now. He look, he's outstanding.

Speaker 4 (36:37):
He certainly is all right.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
The super Bowl today, we know that the best Super
Bowl foods while watching the game, what would they be,
Bucky Brooks?

Speaker 5 (36:46):
I mean, I think you have the old school things right.
You have to have chicken wings. Uh. You have to
have all your dips and all that other stuff with
whatever it is that you use, whether you have your
buffalo dip or your old French onion dip or whatever,
your chips, veggies, if you want to be healthy in
those things. I think sliders are always a big food.
And then you got to throw some meatballs. Can we

(37:08):
get some meat balls?

Speaker 3 (37:09):
Maybe all of that?

Speaker 4 (37:12):
Yeah, it's true, I tell you.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
I would just wonder how many chicken wings will be
bought and eaten today? How many tons beyond real?

Speaker 3 (37:20):
Right? I'm sure there's some kind of trivia question in that, right.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
I like the breaded chicken wings, but I do like
the bones. Do you like the boneless or the bones?
I like the bones?

Speaker 3 (37:30):
Well, I mean the only wings if they have a bone.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
If not, right, exactly right? The other ones you get
at McDonald's. Right, here we go.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
We move on and speaking about watching the Super Bowl,
the best place for you, Bucket Brooks, to.

Speaker 4 (37:44):
Watch the game is it home? Is it alone?

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Is it a sports bar? Is with a group of
people with friends entertaining a party? What's the best place?

Speaker 5 (37:53):
The best place is for me is at home, because
I want to kind of lock in and concentrate on
the game, parties and stuff for fun.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
But there's a time where I want to hear the commentary.

Speaker 5 (38:02):
I want to be able to really break it down
and look at it differently, and I don't want to
be distracted by some of the nonsensical conversations that take
place and Super Bowl because remember, you got a bunch
of casuals that are tuning in for the first time
to see the commercials and the halftime show.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
None of that stuff that really interest me. How about
the game, And so.

Speaker 5 (38:22):
I don't want to have some of these sidecar conversations
that are about nothing.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
You know what, Our guy Shaysha is here, all right.
We missed him last week. He's back again. I'm so happy.
When he left last week, I thought he wasn't going
to come back. But he's back, and he's got some
information about these chicken wings. I think, shay She welcome back.
We missed you dearly.

Speaker 7 (38:41):
Yeah, I couldn't stay for very long. I missed you guys.
I miss you guys a lot, honestly.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
And you'd better get a life then. Really.

Speaker 7 (38:48):
Okay, but Americans will will be eating one point four seven.

Speaker 8 (38:53):
Billion wings during Super Bowl? Will you would be billion
with a bee?

Speaker 3 (38:57):
Yeah? He isn't.

Speaker 8 (38:58):
Boy, take what you want with that. But that's a
lot of chicken How much would you.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
Do a lot of chicken ings? A lot of chicken wings?

Speaker 4 (39:06):
Are you gonna care for today too?

Speaker 3 (39:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (39:09):
Some of them need to be baked, of course, remember baked,
not Fried Sha Shay Baked not Fried.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
We care about your head, all right.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Last, but not least, the NBA had some major trades
the list ten days. How foolish is that league to
have their trading deadline bump against the Super Bowl and
Super Bowl Week?

Speaker 4 (39:26):
How stupid was that? Really?

Speaker 3 (39:28):
I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (39:29):
It got a lot of attention anytime you see Luca
Donct's go across the wire, ad go across the wire,
some of the notable names that we saw, Jimmy Butler,
those things. They have to do it, but they needed
some pop and some sizzle. Then they had a slate
of afternoon games. I understood why they did it, but
like remember, the NFL is a fringe upon their territory.
Football is supposed to be done by now, So I
can't hait on the NBA for doing what they're doing.

Speaker 4 (39:51):
Well, I hear what you're saying. They got some bump.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
They really did, but still in all that could have
got more, perhaps if they did it earlier or maybe
just a little later, who knows, I don't know. All right,
he's Bucky Brooks. I'm any defirming this is Fox Football Sunday.
Is it too close to call? Who has the edge today?
We'll tell you all about that next right here, h Fox,
All right, where's the advantage?

Speaker 4 (40:11):
We'll tell you in just about a minute.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
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(40:35):
ready for the game? Are you ready?

Speaker 3 (40:38):
One? Ready for the game? Absolutely ready?

Speaker 2 (40:41):
And I'll tell you something funny. Number one is that
everybody's excited. I'm depressed because after today, it's over. You
know what I'm saying. We look forward to, like in
June July training camp. Today is it Today?

Speaker 4 (40:53):
We hit the wall. It's all over. Football is done.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
And I don't know why, and maybe I'm alone with this.
I don't know why the Super Bowl is on a Sunday.
I don't know why it's not on a Saturday night.
Could you explain that to me?

Speaker 5 (41:07):
This should always be on a Sunday because the regular
season games on Sundays. I just I mean it makes Yeah,
it makes the most sense. It stays consistent with the schedule.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
I've always thought that they wanted it on a Sunday
because the hotels will get like an extra day's you know, expenses.

Speaker 4 (41:24):
I mean, they spend an extra night there. You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
There's just a tourists and the teams and everybody else
meet people.

Speaker 5 (41:32):
I mean maybe maybe so like you always because normally
it's super late when the game is over, after all
the media obligations and all that other stuff.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
But yeah, I think it's more so just maintaining.

Speaker 5 (41:43):
The consistency of the schedule they always play their games on.

Speaker 4 (41:48):
Well, I know the ac cuds of Philadelphia happy.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
I think there's no school tomorrow in Philadelphia because of
the Super Bowl because the Eagles are in it.

Speaker 4 (41:53):
I guess, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
I mean, and they're to win it.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
And I hope the mayor is going to school because
she got to learn how to spell the Eagles please
the gold Birds, right, I mean, that was embarrassing. We
move on, all right. I want to make a little
bit of a comparison here because two years ago these
two teams met in the Super Bowl in twenty twenty two.
The Chiefs won that game thirty eight to thirty five
over the Eagles, now super Bowl number five, seven fifty seven.

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That year, the Chiefs scored four to ninety six points,
the average almost thirty points again twenty nine point two,
and they scored thirty points in nine games that year.
This year, the Chiefs didn't score thirty points until they
beat the Bills thirty two to twenty nine. This year,
they ranked fifteenth in the league with a twenty two
point six point per game average, and their defense gave

(42:41):
up the fourth fewest points. The chief seventy consecutive wins
in one postseason game twelve this season. So the fact
that their offense is down, the fact that they're not
the same team they were back then, and the fact
that there are people that are haters right now saying
that they're playing with a horseshoe up their rear end
because they were lucky. Maybe they're good. I guess, maybe

(43:03):
they're lucky, maybe a little of each. Look they played
in the AFC Championship game, they needed a fourth down
stop and the final two minutes when they dropped pass
to beat Buffalo back in week fourteen, that had that
field goal from their emergency kicker matthew Wright to beat
the Chargers. Back in week ten, they almost were upset
by the Broncos. They blocked the field goal, so they

(43:25):
came out of it. You know, we're just with their
with their head above water.

Speaker 4 (43:30):
Is it good?

Speaker 2 (43:31):
Is it lucky? I asked you this question, Bucket Brooks.
Are they fortunate, are they clutch? Are they opportunistic? Or
are they resilient? Take your pick.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
They're all of those teams.

Speaker 5 (43:42):
But I would say they're resilient because they don't flinch
when the game is in critical moments.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
They tend to make plays.

Speaker 5 (43:50):
All those guys that you referenced in the run up
talking about the Chiefs and how they won, they're players
who made plays. They're not players who messed up plays
and for do Law. Others have just imploded when it
comes to being able to execute in critical moments against
the Chiefs. So I can't fault the Chiefs. They just
know that if they stayed, of course, the other team

(44:11):
would give it to them. And it's been proving time
and time again.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
Well look I'm here in the Cincinnati area. They played
the Bengals in Week two. Harrison Buckner hit that fifty
one yard field goal. There's a time expired that what
field goal was set up by a pass interference call,
like a twenty nine yard pass interference call. They beat
the Bengals, and look, I get it. And there are
people right now that truly believe that this team has

(44:34):
been I guess, been taken care of, if you will,
by the officials. I think that's insane. I think is
it a coincidence? I don't know. I don't think the
officials are going out of their way to help the
Kansas City chiefs. And I thought there was a situation
where even Roger Goodell, you know, during Super Bowl week,
had to make a statement saying, it's not.

Speaker 4 (44:55):
How how foolish is that?

Speaker 2 (44:57):
If I'm the commission I said, you know what, I'm
not going down on that road. Our officials are there
to officiate the game, and they do the best job
they can do. They're not here to favor any teams,
but the public things they are I guess the gambling
public more so than anybody else.

Speaker 5 (45:13):
Well, I would say that this is a time where
We've had more conspiracy theories.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
In life.

Speaker 5 (45:20):
Yet one time everyone is looking for some mystical, magical
reason as to why they're having their success. And what
it sounds like to me when people are wandering about
the officials a lot of sour grapes. You have opportunities
to make plays, make the plays that are there to
be made. Have they benefited from some questionable calls at times? Yes,
but normally over the season those calls even out. It's

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about can you execute when you're required to execute at
a high level in these moments, and if you can,
you have an opportunity to win. But most teams have
not been able to do it.

Speaker 4 (45:54):
It's amazing, you know, I just I just got a
brainstorm here. I gotta throw this is. There's nothing to
do with anything. But did you watch the show Thursday
night at the Awards show?

Speaker 3 (46:04):
I watched some watch.

Speaker 4 (46:05):
Okay, did you see.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
When Bill Belichick came on there towards the end he
was wearing that that red jacket Bill Belichick.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
Yeah, I'm sure. But his girlfriend with all the rings, Yeah,
you hear the.

Speaker 4 (46:16):
Ring on everything. I mean, why why would.

Speaker 5 (46:20):
You want a bunch of them? He wanted to show
him off. He even had his girlfriend were one.

Speaker 4 (46:24):
It was crazy.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
I thought that was nuts. I didn't think Bill Belichick
was that kind of a guy. I just didn't think
he was that way. I really didn't. But you know,
to wear all those rings, most athletes, I think keep
those rings in a safe deposit box.

Speaker 4 (46:38):
That's what they do. But I don't think they wear
them all the time.

Speaker 5 (46:41):
I mean, no, you haven't break them out on special occasions,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
You only break it out.

Speaker 5 (46:45):
When it's the thing is not day to day where
it's special occasions.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
Because you got to remember, these things are heavy. They're
like a paperweight. There's some girth to them.

Speaker 5 (46:55):
And as they started putting diamonds all over the place, Yeah,
you gotta.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
Take care of Yeah, it's a fun conversation starter.

Speaker 4 (47:06):
That's basically what it is. Really it really is.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
You know, it's funny because I think the Kelsey's. We
hear the Kelsey brothers were here in Cincinnati. They had
some sort of a thing with the University of Cincinnati
that came back. This is back in the fall, and
it wasn't Travis, but it was his brother who played
for the Eagles, and they had a contest, I think,
to find a ring in a vat of chili, and

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he lost his Eagles championship ring. I guess the Eagles
replaced it for him. Why he would even wear that
at that event? And more than that, why would you
stick your hand in a vat of a chili. Someone
must have picked up his ring. They found it at
the bottom of that thing. I'm so must have picked
it up and kept it. But still, in all I

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found that very strange. He was a little upset with that.

Speaker 4 (47:55):
That was a big deal.

Speaker 5 (47:56):
Well, you show it off because the think about it.
The viewer in public normally doesn't see it ring up close.
If there were kids involved, man, it may be enough
to inspire them a little bit. If others involved, sometimes
they can qualify yourself when it comes to certain positions
that you're.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
In or whatever. You know, it's just one of those
things like it. It's a nice show piece.

Speaker 4 (48:20):
There you go, all right, here we go. Let's get
into this game right now.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Let's get into who's gonna win and how they're gonna win.
When the Philadelphia Eagles are passing the football, let's break
this down a little bit right now. They got the
quarterback Jalen Hurts one hundred and ninety three passing yards
a game.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
That's a career low for him.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
However, his one on three point five passing rating is
a career high.

Speaker 4 (48:42):
All right.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
I think that he thrives on the fact that everybody
is gearing on Saquon Barkley, which kind of frees up his.

Speaker 4 (48:51):
Ride receivers Brown and Smith.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Maybe a little dink and dounk over there, I might
correct with that, because everybody on the defensive side of
the football is looking for, say, Kwan Barkley to get
the ball and run.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
Yeah, it opens up everything.

Speaker 5 (49:04):
It gave them a natural packing order when it came
to the offensive approach. Now you have to stop twenty
six as the top priority. Well, that creates one on
one opportunities on the outside if you try to do
it with extra defenders and a.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
Lot of scrimmage.

Speaker 5 (49:15):
If you don't, they've shown their patient enough to discipline
enough in detailed enough to.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
Watch the other team go up and down the field like.

Speaker 5 (49:23):
So to me, it is literally about taking advantage of
the one on one opportunities on the outside. Facts He's
gonna bless and make sure that he nullifies twenty six.
So this, to me is the game that Jayden Hurts
and those guys have been waiting on. They're going to
have an opportunity to get out the straight jacket, to
throw it all over the yard a little bit, and
let's see if they can be efficient enough to move
about on the field.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Right talk about the Chiefs right now of defending that
Eagle's passion game, they're about I say, if you were
to rate the Chiefs, they're about average.

Speaker 4 (49:53):
Going against the pass and the passing game.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
They do have that old pro corner a Trump mcduffy,
But other than that, the defensively, Christian Jones is the guy,
and I think the Eagles offensive line could kind of
keep him at bay. They really can. I would have
to say right now that the Eagles have the advantage
in the passing game today, and as far as passing
the football, I give the edge to the Eagles right

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now over the Kansas City Chiefs.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
Wow, the Eagles huh death superior? Huh.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
Well, let's break down Kansas City's passing game right now.
The average what he scrambles a lot mahomes right, He's
averaging almost like almost ten yards per scramble.

Speaker 4 (50:34):
That's what he's doing.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
He's got a career low this year of six point
two air yards per pass. All right, but again, you
don't know what he's going to do with the football
because he runs. He runs a lot, so and look,
one play could change the outcome of this game.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
It really can. But I still would take.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
The Eagles passing game over over the Chiefs in this area.
I just I just think that they have more of
a passing game, and honestly, the defense on Kansas City
will have a tough time stopping and I don't think
the defense besides they one cornerback that they have. Other
than that, I think they're just an average defense defensively.

Speaker 5 (51:13):
In the secondary, they're ranked up there, they're pretty good.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
They do a great job stopping the run.

Speaker 5 (51:20):
I would say this, You're not far off when it
comes to the Kansaity Chiefs offense. They're passing attack, they're
pedestrian on the outside. They don't have enough speed in
play making. The reason they popped thirty points on the
Buffalo Bills. They finally had Hollywood Brown to come back
and join Zavie Worthy, and now they have more speed
on the field that creates open easy lanes for Travis

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Kelsey and others to get free. The other thing they're
doing by kind of locking in and playing in a
way like a little game will keep away.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
They shrink the clock and limit your plays.

Speaker 5 (51:55):
Their offense limits to plays that the opposing team's offense has,
so you don't have enough time to really it at them.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
It's an interesting thing.

Speaker 5 (52:03):
And the thing that throws me up when it comes
to going all in on the Chiefs passing game is
Vic fan Jaish eight against Pat Mahomes. Pat Mahomes slices
and dices Vic Fangio's defense on the regular. What can
Vic do differently after taking a straight losses to give
Pat Mahomes problems because if he had it, he already

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would have shown it.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
So what can you want to lab him come up with?
That's really the key.

Speaker 4 (52:28):
So you'll leading to Kansas City in the passing game
in a sense.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
No, I mean, I mean, but here's the thing.

Speaker 5 (52:35):
Pat Mahomes is better than Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts has
better receivers, So which one matters more? The pitcher or
the catcher? I mean, if the pitcher doesn't hidden in
the strike zones, then the catchers all out of sorts,
so I'm more likely to go with the quarterback making
a difference.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
So that's why I go with Pat Mahomes.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
And the funny thing is, I'd have to say in
the playoffs, not just today's game, but in the playoffs
in general, it's been more of a running then a
passing offense.

Speaker 4 (53:02):
That's just the way it is.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Maybe because of the climate they were playing like in Buffalo,
whatever it may be, but you talk about the running game,
when the Eagles run the football, it's all Saquon Barkley's
guy had over two thousand rushing yards and sixteen regular games.
He set out that last game and the postseason three games,
almost four hundred and fifty yards and five touchdowns in
three games. So here's a guy that got a zero
in in this guy. Kansas City is allowed only about

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four yards per carry, but a bottom ten stuff rate,
whatever that is. I read that bottom ten stuff rate
of opponent carries. So what is a stuff rate?

Speaker 3 (53:36):
I guess is a zero and negative.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
You're a game an opponent carries. I've read that somewhere.
I'm trying to find out what it is.

Speaker 4 (53:45):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
I got these stats making me crazy. But look, I
think that Saquon Barkley is going to have some space
to create some magic and some run today. So I'm
not saying he's going to pick up two hundred yards,
but easily getting one hundred yards today because he will
have thirty carries.

Speaker 5 (54:01):
I mean, I don't think it's gonna happen because the
Chiefs haven't given up a one hundred yard.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
Rusher to a running back in two years. Lamar Jackson top.

Speaker 5 (54:10):
To Mark, I think this season as a quarterback, but
they do a great job of stopping running backs and
they're gonna blitz every gap and make sure there's no crease.
There's no creases, and they're gonna put the game on devins.
Just know inspects and watching how he does, you can
see a bunch of covers the rope blitzes early to
get them behind the chains and if they getting behind
the change, that's when the fun happens for the defense.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
Right, And I'll say this, You may be right that
he may not gain one hundred yards, but with Saquon Barkley,
all he needs to do is bust one, you know,
for forty fifty sixty yards.

Speaker 4 (54:41):
That's all he needs right, it's gonna happen. It will
happen today.

Speaker 5 (54:46):
I mean, it'd be fun to see it happen. We
just stn't normally see big runs in Super Bowls.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
Yeah, you're right. Okay, let's talk about the Chiefs running
game right now. Is say it, but Chaco. I wish
the Bengals never let that guy go. I think he's
a decent guy. He had a season injury in the
middle of the season. Kareem Hunt came back in there,
and look, he did well. When Kareem Hunt came back,
he had more than nine hundred yards in thirteen games.
So I don't think they match up to the Eagles
in Saquon Barkley. But they got a pretty good one

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two punch they really do. Chris Pachiko's almost four yards
to carry, all right.

Speaker 5 (55:17):
Yeah, I mean it's a tough one to two punchs.
They're physical, they're rugged, they run between the tackles. They
have a little speed, not a lot of speed, but
a little speed to kind of turn some of these
five yar games into explosive plays. But what they are
is their team that wins because they're disciplined in their patients.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
They're gonna stay true to who they are.

Speaker 5 (55:34):
They can be patient enough to wait for it to
come back to them, and then they don't win it
by doing those simple things, those little things better than
the opponents.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
All Right, here's something that a lot of people aren't
talking about. I think the major conversation with the Super
Bowl today is they're running games Saquon Barkley and things
like that. I think special teams are a major, major,
a major factor, and they will be a major factor
today in the game. And why do I say that
Because I look at the kicking game of Jake Ellie.
Jake Ellie was a Cincinnati Bengal for a while. He's

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been almost up and down as a kicker. This year
with the Philadelphia Eagles. He missed eight field goals in
the regular season, a career worse for him through six games.
I had from sixty from fifty yards, he missed three
extra points. Look, he's a guy you're a little worried

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when he gets the ball. Just a little bit of
worry over there. And this game could very well be
could fall down on a kicking, could fall down on
the field goal right Harrison Bucke. He missed a month
because of that leg injury, forty conversion rate on kicks
from fifty plus a career worse for him, he's been
a perfect nine for nine for four field goals five

(56:44):
extra points in the playoffs. I still believe that it's
gonna be a factor today, the kicking game.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
The kicking game is always a factor.

Speaker 5 (56:53):
And there's a list of things and discounts from Bill Belichick,
but he's talking about don't beat ourselves. The dbos as
we refer to them, are no turnovers, eliminate the pre
stamp of foolish penalties, no big plays allowed on the perimeter,
and no kicking game errors. Don't allow people to flip
the field in the kicking game, big returns, block kicks,

(57:15):
those things. Take care of your joe, your your role,
your responsibility, and you do that in the kicking game,
you can have a chance to be successful.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
Interesting, and the punting game is not much better for
Philadelphia really.

Speaker 5 (57:28):
No, I mean you want you want defensive guys on
punt and your coverage teams. You want your best defensive
guys that can do it because the play is too
important to just throw it away. So everyone that plays offense,
that plays the defensive position needs to learn one of
these punt return positions.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
Okay, so I need the Chiefs. Chiefs get the edge
in the kicking game, Eagles went punting. Okay, so we'll
do that, and right now, I think the edge is
still going a little towards the Eagles. Right now, I
really believe that. The coaching situation, you know, I'm not
so certain. I mean, you got Andy Reid, He's got
the experience, Siriani. I think he's a great motivator. I'm

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not saying Read's not a great motivator. You know him
better than anybody. But I just think that they believe
in Andy Reid. This team has been there, done that,
and even if they fall behind, they know they could
come back.

Speaker 4 (58:17):
Sirianni's more emotional.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
Yeah, I mean there's something to the right.

Speaker 5 (58:22):
With experience comes expertise, and the people are willing to
bank on his experience leading them out.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
That's why it's done.

Speaker 5 (58:29):
The age thing when it comes to being a head
coach is about a connectivity thing. He's well connected with
his players. They appreciate and respect what he says to meet.
That's everything you want to hear as a code.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
Okay, Now, momentum doesn't mean much coming into this game.

Speaker 4 (58:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
Chiefs are seventeen and one in games in Mahomes' start
of this year. They're twelve and zero in games decided
by eight points or less, whatever that means. But there's
a team right now that's got a lot of confidence
coming into this game. Right now, however, the two running
backs average almost like three or three point four yards
to carry against the Bills, and they gained just sixty

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two rushing yards against the Houston Texans. That's not a
good thing. That's not a good thing coming into today's game.

Speaker 5 (59:15):
No, it's a good thing, but it's temporary. I mean
it may change like it's not a good thing though.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
That great, all right, So what do you think? Now,
let's go back here. Here's the bottom line. Who wins
the game? I would say this Chiefs, And if you
always said this as well, the Chiefs have been there before.
Maybe they've been there too many times in the minds
of many their sixty first game in a three year span,
most in NFL history. That twelve to zero record in

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one score games would be unintenable for most teams. But
it's a lot of evidence that Kansas City. We give
them the benefit of the doubt. You've done that. I've
done it right now, you've told me into it. I
still think though the Eagles personnel top to bottom, are
a better team. I think it's going to be close.
I'm taking the Eagles to win this game.

Speaker 5 (01:00:00):
The Eagles are the more talented team. The Eagles are
the more emotional team. A lot of time, when emotion
comes in, execution goes out. Can the Philadelphia Eagles keep
their emotions in check to finish the deal? That's really
what it comes down to. I a believer that the
Kansaity Chiefs are gonna win. They've done two in a row.

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They've won a ton of games that are low scoring games.
They've won an improbable ways this year. That makes them
better prepared for the tournament, particularly this game.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
They just have a knack for getting it done.

Speaker 5 (01:00:33):
And some of us can't quantify it because there's just
a feel. But their confidence as a champion is unwavering,
and I think over time you buy it to the mystique.
When you stand across and you look, you see number
fifteen with his hands on the ball and two minutes
left in the game within a one score situation. Yeah,
you don't believe that you can get it done. And

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I feel like that's going to be the difference in
this one.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Okay, And I'll leave you with this. I think if
the Eagles trailing at the half, they're in trouble. I
think if Kansas City's trunning at the half, they know
if they've been there, done that, they could come back.

Speaker 5 (01:01:07):
You can't put prop becks in the middle of analysis
like oh, if this and if that, and you know,
if this color, if the gatorade is pinked, and that
means no, like picotine the Eagles, that's who you're rolling with.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
Yeah, I'm going with Eagles, I am, And obviously you're
going Kansas City, just like we do all the time
in batt Bana Baro betting.

Speaker 4 (01:01:25):
That's what we do, all right, Always take the opposite.
He's Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 4 (01:01:33):
Who's that?

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
That's Mike Harmon will join us next hour at Andy
Fourman FSR and your calls as well. We love to
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Speaker 4 (01:01:52):
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Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
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this Sat Quon Barkley had an MVP season. We know that,
but he didn't do it alone. He runhs for over

(01:02:53):
two thousand yards, and his offensive line opened the holes
for him. Bucky Brooks would say, Quon have the same
six says on another team with maybe not such a
strong offensive line.

Speaker 5 (01:03:08):
No, the offensive line matters, It matters significantly. The Eagles
have one of the best offensive lines in football. That
doesn't take away from Saquon Barkley's talents. He's amazing. It's
just that it's the perfect combination. It's the perfect storm.
Great offensive line, great running back, you have talented playmakers
on the outside. So it really puts defensive coordinators in

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the buying when picking and choosing how to defend them.
He's terrific, But those two thousand yards we're seeing here
might have been only twelve to thirteen hundred with the Giants,
you know, and maybe somewhere in that range somewhere else.
But he's certainly been enhanced by having a great offensive
line that has helped him kind of make his moves.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
Okay, and I'm glad you brought that up, because not
only are they great, We're gonna find out right now
why are they so great? Because offensive linemen traditionally and
typically are the largest players in football, right, But you
look at the Philadelphia Eagles, they go one step bigger.

Speaker 4 (01:04:02):
They go one step even bigger.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
The five starting linemen on average stand at six foot
six and they weigh three into thirty eight pounds. They
are more than an inch taller and twenty six pounds
heavier than the line on the Kansas City Chiefs. That's big,
all right, And I think what the Philadelphia Eagles do.
They go out of their way to pick big linemen

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because that's this style of play they like to run
the football, and when you got a guy six six
three thirty eight makes it a lot easier to make
those holes a little bigger.

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
I mean, without a question.

Speaker 5 (01:04:40):
Nick Saban, Bill Belichick, a couple other coaches subscribe to
this theory that there's a reason why you don't put
middle weights in heavyweights in the same boxing ring.

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
Over time, the.

Speaker 5 (01:04:53):
Physicality, the superior weight difference differential between the heavyweight in
the middleweight would eventually lead to middleweight to get knocked out.
When you have a big, physical offensive line that can
lean on you and move you for four quarters, it
wears you down. And that's what the Philadelphia Eagles have done.
They got a massive offensive line, they put a talented

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running back behind them, and we've seen what takes place.
He's put up ridiculous numbers.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
And let's find out who are these guys? Okay, one
of them is a Jordan Mulatta. Okay, this guy is
six ' eight, he weighs three sixty five and I
looked this up. He played rugby. He was a rugby
player in Sydney, Australia. Before the Eagles took a chance
on this guy in the seventh round of the twenty

(01:05:41):
eighteen NFL Draft.

Speaker 4 (01:05:43):
This year, he was a second team All Pro. How
does that happen?

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
How does a personnel guy or a scout know that
a six foot eight rugby player is going to be
a great offensive lineman in the NFL?

Speaker 4 (01:05:55):
How does that happen?

Speaker 5 (01:05:58):
Well, some of the skills transfer, right, So you think
about rugby, some of the tackling, the body of the body, contact,
the leverage, those things, the athleticism that's required to play
in rugby.

Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
You love that.

Speaker 5 (01:06:10):
And even though you're projecting him to be an offensive lineman,
you can just see there's something that he's going to
be able to do because he's had to be able
to run around and.

Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
Be physical in rugby games.

Speaker 5 (01:06:20):
Then it's about your player development program.

Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
Jeff Stalin is a look.

Speaker 5 (01:06:26):
He's known as the old line Guru currently in the league.
You give him that kind of like tools and talent
to work with, he'll reshape them and bank them into
a solid player.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
And that's what has happened with my lotta.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
Now, who is this other guy in the offensive line?
Call a Mountain Becden, big ticket Highway seventy seven.

Speaker 4 (01:06:46):
What's his name? Becton? Mechai Becton? Is that him, Mecky Becton.

Speaker 5 (01:06:51):
Yeah, McKai Beckton, former number one pick from the New
York Jets, massive guy coming out of Louisville. Underachieved in
New York. But they put him at guard. Say this man,
coaching matters. Coaching matters not only from a tactical sense,
but from a motivational sense. Uh, they got Makai backed
then on board. He's surrounded by players that are talented
and so he is a competitor and everybody who who

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plays at a level is a competitor. And he looks
around and he's like, look, I gotta earn my I
gott to earn my keep. I got to figure out
a way to stay relevant, or not i'd be on
the bench. And you know, sometimes everyone talks about competition.

Speaker 3 (01:07:25):
That's what competition does. Brings up amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
He was a first rounder by the Jets what as
a tackle back in twenty twenty, but he was weighing
like four hundred pounds. Goes to the Eagles. Right now
he slims down to three sixty three. He's six seven,
all right. So if I'm an NFL guy, and I
if I'm a personel guy, and look, I'm not going
to use a first round draft pick on this, but

(01:07:49):
I want to protect my quarterback. And I remember, way
back in the day when the Cincinnti Bengals were formed,
the very first draft pick, the first player ever on
the Cincinni was an offensive center. Because I remember with
the late Paul Brown, and he wrote this in his book,
he said, what's what's up front that counts? And you
gotta have an offensive line. It starts everything. Everything starts

(01:08:11):
with the offensive line. And I guess the Philadelphia Eagles
figure that out because it's working.

Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
Yeah, they have figured it out. And they they've done
it a long time.

Speaker 5 (01:08:19):
But I'm gonna say this, they started figuring out the
trench play and the Andy Reid and the tradition has continued.
If you go and you look at the Philippi Eagles
drafts consistently, they always take a big within the first
two picks, meaning first two rounds. They've invested significantly in
the trenches, which allows them to dominate upfront on both
sides of the ball.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
This is what they do. This is the blueprint.

Speaker 5 (01:08:41):
This is the blueprint that has been successful for the
longest time in the league. Strong running game, with a
dominant offensive line, electric passing game, don't turn it over,
make plays, and you have a chance to win.

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
That's what they've done.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
Okay, Now I'm kind of a statistical nut, but I
think they go above and beyond in the National Football
League with some of these metrics and stats.

Speaker 4 (01:09:03):
I read this one over here and said, this season.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
The Philadelphia Eagles led the NFL with twenty eleven rushing
yards before the bull carrier ran into an opposing defender,
one hundred and ninety yards more than any other team.
On Saquon Barkley's runs, he averaged three point eight yards
before contact per rush, meaning that he has had so

(01:09:26):
much space that he's gaining a lot thanks to the
territory before anyone even lays a hand on this guy.

Speaker 4 (01:09:33):
It's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
So because of those big guys, they're making that space
for him.

Speaker 5 (01:09:38):
Yeah, he's like being a plan on a runway. If
you can clear space, I'm gonna take off. And that's
what he's done.

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
They created.

Speaker 5 (01:09:44):
This is a vision where he said, just you know, look,
we're just gonna run this at them. They know it's coming,
we know it's coming, but we feel like we've been
in here.

Speaker 4 (01:09:54):
That's what happens.

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
It's really amazing because that statistic right there marks the
higher yards before contact for any running back with one
thousand yards in a season since twenty sixteen, according to
Pro Football Reference. Derek Henry, by the way, the NFL
second leading rusher this year, averaged just three point one

(01:10:15):
yards per pre contact. So the offensive line does make
a difference, and I got to believe that with the
success that the Eagles have had with the run game,
and obviously Barkley's a big factor of that, people are
gonn to be looking to draft or obtain maybe through
free agency. Whoever, it may be bigger and stronger guys

(01:10:36):
and heavier guys on the offensive line. Now, when you
played the game, what was the average way perhaps of
an offensive lineman two fifty two thirty never over three hundred, right.

Speaker 5 (01:10:46):
I mean they were close hit guys that would be big.
But the difference is is to the girth and the athleticism. Differently,
Before you see big guys, but they couldn't move, and
now you're seeing big guys that could move to a
nimble Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:10:57):
That's the game change.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
It's something else. I mean I went back and looked
at this thing called stats. According to stats, when the
Chiefs took on the Green Bay Packers and the very
first Super Bowl, the starting offensive lineman and those teams
weighed an average of two point fifty two and not
one of them was.

Speaker 4 (01:11:16):
Even two seventy five. That's amazing. It's amazing how things change.
It really is.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
I mean, now, all of a sudden, we could honestly say,
several years ago they wanted to eliminate the running game.
They want to eliminate the position of the running back.
It's come back now. I mean, look who's happening in
the National Football League, and it is like a copycat league.
You're going to see more and more teams go to
the running game next year.

Speaker 4 (01:11:38):
I just know it. That's just the way it is.

Speaker 5 (01:11:41):
Yeah, no, I mean it is just tweeted now when
you're talking about the quarterback run game, like you just
got to protect them. How do you protect them if
you're going to run them? How do you tell them
to get down to avoid the big hit? Because we
all know if you don't have a quarterback, you don't
have a chance.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
To me, you look at some of the great blockers
and they have a list over here. I'm looking at
for the stats, the great blockers, the arch shellves of
the world. He was only six five two sixty five.
Gene Upshua six five two fifty five. It's amazing. I'll
think change. Look, and I wouldn't say these guys are fat.
They're just they're somewhat big. You know, they're nimble that

(01:12:15):
they can move on. There.

Speaker 4 (01:12:16):
The light on their feet for the amount of weight
that they carry.

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
Yeah they are.

Speaker 5 (01:12:23):
Look there, they're light on their feet for the way
that they carry. But it's about the cumuative effect of
dealing with the big offensive line. It's about just taking
those body blows time and time again and then being on.

Speaker 3 (01:12:35):
You got to be on.

Speaker 5 (01:12:36):
But I'll say this, it's the great equalizer and sports,
and that is physicality and toughness. If you have a
big physical team, a big physical offensive line, and not
only sets the tone for your offense, but it sets
the tone for the rest of the team.

Speaker 3 (01:12:49):
Look, it depends on how you fancy yourself.

Speaker 5 (01:12:51):
If you're a blue color team and you're unable to run,
you have no chance because you've gotta be You have
to be able to line up and smoke people physically
three four yards at a time to be able to
win the biggest games.

Speaker 2 (01:13:03):
Okay, we know we got Sakwon backing number one, Derek
Henry number two. Here's a question for you. Let's get
Joe Mixon behind the Philadelphia Eagles line. Would he gain
two thousand yards?

Speaker 5 (01:13:14):
He might not get two thousand, but he would be close.
He's a good player, He was a good player, continues
to be a good player. Yeah, I can see him
getting close because he'd be tearing it up.

Speaker 4 (01:13:24):
Yeah, I'm with you right there.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
I just believe that you get a good offensive line
with a good running back together, you got some You
got something cooking.

Speaker 4 (01:13:32):
Over there, you really do. All right, let's look look
some of the big matchups today. All right, A J.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
Brown going against Trent McDuffie, the all pro corner. Okay,
how does that going to shape out? I'm gonna give
you somebody these matchups today that we look for in
this game. AJ Brown Trent McDuffie's gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
Be a big one. Repeat it. Just like you said,
A Brown.

Speaker 5 (01:13:53):
A J.

Speaker 4 (01:13:54):
Brown going against Trent McDuffie.

Speaker 5 (01:13:56):
So to me, this is all about the pastor's being
solid with Chris Jones. Trimmy duffie is gonna hold up
on his own. The problem that you have with AJ
Brown two hundred.

Speaker 3 (01:14:06):
And twenty five pounds. He wants to engage in a
like fisticuffs on the perimeter.

Speaker 5 (01:14:11):
Trim mc duffie has to use a different style to
shadow him around now as physical, maybe more finesse, but
stay in his hip pocket. To me, the advantage goes
to A J. Brown in terms of the talent. But
now you got to deal with the timing and all
that other stuff. But I still say it goes to
AJ Brown the.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
Eagles all right, And last but not least if the
Chiefs are gonna stop sequon Barkley, then Chris Jones has
to be a big time force up the middle.

Speaker 4 (01:14:35):
What's gonna happen with that one?

Speaker 3 (01:14:36):
Today?

Speaker 5 (01:14:38):
They gonna commit to forcing the new wind through the air,
and DeVante Smith's gonna have plenty of opportunities. If he
wins on the outside, he not only bounces out the offense,
but he is in line to be the MVP.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
Keep it out on Devonte Smith? Maybe unlikely MVP.

Speaker 4 (01:14:54):
How do you like that? I like that a lot?
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
He is Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy Frevan. We are Fox
Fotball Sunday and Fox Sports Radio. We're coming to the
finish line. Yes we are. What does that mean? Bottom
barrel betting. It's freaking next bottom barrel betting right around
the corner about eleven minutes before the top of the hour.

Speaker 4 (01:15:12):
He's Bucky Brokes.

Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
I'm Andy Firmer, and we are Fox Football Sunday and
Fox Sports Radio, and of course we're live from the
TAIRAQ dot Com studios. We've got a game to play.
We're not going to do it much more, but let's
do it right now. All right, say shame, We're coming
out to the funnel. I guess tally, if you will?

Speaker 4 (01:15:37):
Is that it? And then we move on?

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:15:40):
I mean we'll still bring it back every once in
a while, but we won't be doing it every week
because there are too many games that we have. And Andy,
your people don't know this, but you're creator of a
lot of great games, and we we need the people
to know.

Speaker 3 (01:15:54):
We need the people know.

Speaker 7 (01:15:55):
But we don't got a lot of time, so let's
get through this quick. We usually do the leagues from
around the world world, but because it's the Super Bowl,
I'd be remiss to not have the super Bowl. But
there are fun things within the Super Bowl that we
can bet on. So let's start off. Last week, Andy,
you won three Bucky two, leading the score to Andy

(01:16:17):
forty seven Bucky fifty two. Andy needs to go five
oh here to tie, So let's see if you can
do it?

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
All right, Andy?

Speaker 8 (01:16:25):
Okay, coin toss.

Speaker 7 (01:16:27):
The result of the coin toss for Super Bowl fifty
nine both are minus one ten Bucky. Let's start with you.

Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
What you got?

Speaker 8 (01:16:35):
Oh, tales never feels, Tales never fails?

Speaker 4 (01:16:38):
All right, Andy, Well, I guess I'll go with heads.

Speaker 7 (01:16:40):
Tales never fails. Is that like an athlete thing. I've
never heard that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:43):
I like that. Really, Yeah, there's a thing like you
always you always call I like that.

Speaker 4 (01:16:49):
I'm gonna see if they call tails today. Do you
like that?

Speaker 8 (01:16:54):
Next one?

Speaker 7 (01:16:55):
How long will it take? Trombone Shorty and Lauren Daigle,
sing America? The beautiful over one hundred point five seconds
is minus one twenty five or an under is minus
one oh five.

Speaker 8 (01:17:09):
Andy, let's start with you over.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
Definitely over. They want that airtime over, Bucky.

Speaker 5 (01:17:16):
I mean, I can't say over because that would agree
with him. But he's right. I'm gonna take the under.
I'm gonna take the under, and.

Speaker 8 (01:17:24):
The underhits on that same times.

Speaker 3 (01:17:26):
You say that's not enough, that's like a minute and
a half. I needmore.

Speaker 8 (01:17:34):
That's not enough, So under locked in taking the under?
Locked in? All right?

Speaker 7 (01:17:41):
First offensive play of the game, will it be a
run play or pass play? Run plays minus one sixty
five and a pass play is plus one twenty five.

Speaker 4 (01:17:50):
Andy, it's gonna be a run play, especially if the
Eagles guy is gonna be Barkley. You know that run play?

Speaker 8 (01:17:55):
Okay, Andy, that's a good choice, Bucky.

Speaker 9 (01:18:00):
Mm hmm, pass past fast, fast, Okay, everybody passing.

Speaker 8 (01:18:05):
I like it. You guys are going opposite here. This
is good, This is good.

Speaker 7 (01:18:08):
How many outfit changes will Kendrick Lamar make? Big big
fan of Kendrick Maar excited to see that halftime show?
Are you really over one and a half plus one
sixty five or and the under is minus one two twenty?

Speaker 8 (01:18:22):
So Bucky over one and a half under one and
a half.

Speaker 3 (01:18:28):
So the unders one and a half is the line?

Speaker 7 (01:18:31):
Yeah, one and a half is the line. Over is
plus one sixty five, under is minus two twenty.

Speaker 9 (01:18:37):
Kim's lamar, So that's a dude. Gods don't normally change outfits.
Let's the line that's pretty low, one and a half. Yeah,
let's go over. Casey changes a T shirt?

Speaker 4 (01:18:48):
Yeah, you know he's gonna change because maybe he's sweating
in the T shirt. That's a change too, you know.
But uh, I was gonna go over. I'll go on
because I didn't want to go with Bucky.

Speaker 7 (01:18:56):
Why are you guys doing this? You don't you don't
got to be nice to each other. You're going for
the win, you know, going over? Yeah, I don't know.
I don't like this. I'm going go with your heart
the last one. Yes, you're going for the win. Andy,
you're trying to go five. Oh, what's going on?

Speaker 4 (01:19:11):
You're right? Thank you, thank you?

Speaker 3 (01:19:13):
Wake up?

Speaker 7 (01:19:14):
What will happen to the price of bitcoin during the
Super Bowl? The price goes up is minus one thirty five.
The price goes down is plus one oh five, and.

Speaker 4 (01:19:22):
It goes down, all right down.

Speaker 3 (01:19:27):
I don't know what what is the tattoo? Like? I
guess it goes up, but I don't know why we
go up.

Speaker 7 (01:19:31):
It's just it was the most random bad I this
stupid there.

Speaker 8 (01:19:37):
Really, that's the most weird batting money on money? It
was cool?

Speaker 4 (01:19:41):
Something else? Can you get a replacement for that one?

Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:19:43):
No, you want me to?

Speaker 7 (01:19:45):
I can. I can look for a new one. If
it's okay with that.

Speaker 4 (01:19:51):
Okay, let it go. That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
We'll see what happens next week. All right, here we
go the swallow Dome. Mike Harmon joins you next right
here on Fox

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