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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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morning Jeff, Good morning, crack morning. Tell you what we
got a game seven this evening. How can you be
in a bad mood? And it's the ultimate zigzag spot.

(00:46):
After Game six, the Pacers just walloped Oka. See OKC
was awful. Bet some of the numbers from the game.
They scored ninety one points. That's the fewest they scored
all season long. You look at the Batman and Robin
duo with SGA and Jalen Williams, SGA had four times

(01:06):
as many turnovers as assists. He had eight turnovers in
Game six, only two assists. And then Jalen Williams, who
was mister Game five, he dropped forty points in Game five.
He was minus forty in the plus minus category in
Game six. That's the lowest in a finals game since
nineteen ninety six. That's the play by play era. That's

(01:28):
the lowest to be minus forty and plus minus. So
I'm expecting a major bounce back, Jeff, I know you
expect Oka See to start fast. Yeah, it's gonna be
a lot for the Pacers initially in this one.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
The NBA postseason has kind of crushed my soul. We've
talked about this last week. I don't think I like
a wager more the entire post in the Okoahoma City
first quarter today, it's minus three and a half right
now at minus one oh two at BETMGM. I'm waiting
to seef it goes to three. I'm sort of curious

(02:03):
if it does, so I'm kind of waiting it out
a little bit here. That was Oklahoma City's worst offensive
rated game of the season. It was bad, and we
know that besides just the numbers right, the three and
a half, that these are professionals right with emotions, and

(02:24):
they are the best team in the NBA, even though
it is three to three right now in the NBA Finals,
And they're prideful, and they've heard for days now about
their performance in Game six. They've watched a film, they've
talked to their coach, their family members have called them,
like they all know what happened in Game six. They're
going back home today. If we don't see Oklahoma City

(02:48):
play their best quarter of basketball the entire postseason, start
the game. They're not ready for Game seven. They're just not.
And I think they will play their best basketball. You know,
in Game six it got out of hand. Obviously, indianimated
a ton of shots. Okay, so you could make no shots, Guys,
I think wilked a little bit in the pressure. You know, guy,
you know, I'm sure Chet Holmgren is listening right now.

(03:10):
You know, it's okay to go for the rebound that
isn't like correctly coming to you. You can jump and like
propel your body upwards to get a rebound that doesn't
come to you. You know, like you can, you know,
we we can, we can find ways to score a
little bit more like there's just and I think okay
See was a little bit deeked out by by Halibert.

(03:30):
I thought he wasn't going to play, and he looked
sort of healthy. Their entire defensive game plan was off,
was out, and how they've defended Hollyburn in Game four
and five where they sort of rushed him early in
the possession. They didn't do that again. So there's just
a lot of room for improvement, I think for Okayce
in this game. And if you like zig zag wagering,
I got a lot. I have to pare down my menu.

(03:50):
I feel like I can't bet all of them that
I like. I'll probably give out all of them at
some point. Just my thoughts on all these these props.
And also, you know, it's a great day where you
can wager our Kaale Clark to be over her points,
rebounds and assist and we can do that and cracked
wage on the NBA Finals and maybe Game two College
World Series Coastal Carolina money line. There's a lot of

(04:14):
action today on the mediu Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
Good morning everyone, you know, and Jeff, there is some
threes out there here in Vegas. Multiple shops have minus
three minus a dollar ten minus three and a half
minus zero two is basically minus three minus ten minus fifteen,
so I'm sure you'll be able to find your three
there in the first quarter. At this point, no one

(04:37):
really should doubt this Pacers team anymore though. They've shown
that they were the best team in the East the
last two months and can stand toe to toe you
know with this you know, this Thunder team and well
coached and really played team basketball on both sides of
the floor. Tonight should be a great game. I know,
Okay sees a seven point seven and a half point five,

(05:00):
but I would not be shocked on any outcome. These
sevens are usually about great defense, and both both of
these teams can you know, they can really lock it
down here. The Thunder are gonna have to hit their
open threes if they want to win, and the Pacers
will have to create a lot of turnovers if they
want to win. So it's been almost a decade since
we got a Game seven in the NBA files Finals,

(05:23):
so everyone should be excited to watch this one tonight.
I was kind of surprised at how many days in
between uh NBA Final here, Like what what goes through
people's mind, players talking about players and even coaches and
stuff leading.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
Up to that.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
You have, you have, you know, a couple of days off,
and you know what what happens in between, So anything, No,
this game opened up eight and a half pretty solid
and quickly went down to like I said, seven and
a half and even now sevens of course, and uh
bet mgm, I'm the only sports book in the world

(06:02):
minus six and a half, minus eighteen.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
I will say this is the lowest number for an
Oklahoma City home game this postseason. They have not been
this low of a favorite. I think if you like
Oklahoma City, you take them now, and then if you
like Indiana, you wait. I think you'll get a much
better number in game on.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
Indiana, I get public money comes is going to come
in before game time, I would.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
I think just a strong start for a case.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Yeah, Like, I think that's the reason why if okay
See gets up even like last game was eight to
two early on like the number, you get it, but
immediately a better number for Indiana. So I just feel
very very strongly the Oklahoma City is gonna start fast.
Otherwise they're just not the team I thought they were.
Which is certainly possible. I mean, it's certainly possible that
Okay See is not what we thought they were. But look, Indiana,

(06:51):
I mean me, the three wins for okay Seeing this
series have been by seven, sixteen, and what like twelve.
I mean, so they've covered this number when they've won.
If if he hits six and a half. So but yeah,
I mean Indiana should not be out of lost enough
money on in the end of this postseason.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Well, I just I think going back to crack with
you're talking about the days off in between think about
how that impacts Halliburton with the strained calf, Like that's
helped him quite a bit, get all all sorts of
you know, a treatment on that area where he detailed it.
He's multiple trips to the hyperbaric chamber, even including on

(07:29):
game day in Game six, the last game he was there.
He normally doesn't do it on game day, but he
did that time. I think back to Aaron Gordon of
the Nuggets, remember when he went on that. Yeah, kind
of like that plea to have more days off in
between games, and it certainly impacted Halliburton. There's no doubt
about it. Because the way you saw him play in
Game five. He strained his calf in that game, only

(07:51):
scored four points, didn't hit a field goal in that game,
and did look a lot better the last game in
Game six, So that's helped him out quite a bit.
And it's funny, too, Crack you talk about doubting the Pacers.
It's weird. They remind me so much of a college
football team. They remind me of the twenty fourteen Ohio
State Buck guys. And I halfway hate to bring this

(08:13):
up because they eventually want a title against your ducks there. Jeff, Yeah, sorry,
But the comparison that I see is that, just like
the Pacers, what we did with Ohio State was we
would gush about their latest win and then doubt them
immediately in the next game, and they would prove us
wrong each step of the way, like, wow, great big

(08:35):
ten performance against Wisconsin fifty nine to nothing, But are
they really gonna beat Alabama? And then they'd beat like wow,
they beat Alabama, Are they really gonna beat Oregon? And
they did each step of the way. That's how I
feel about the Pacers. Where right now, a lot of
people look at Game six, Wow, what a game by
the Pacers. Look at what they've done this entire playoff.
You know, run yata.

Speaker 5 (08:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Game seven, push comes to shove. Who are you going with?
I gotta go Okay, see right, you're right back to
doubting them, So maybe I'll I'll take the bait again.
I love OKAC in this matchup for numerous reasons. One
of the reasons is, look at them at home. Yeah,
so they're plus two forty seven at home in the playoffs,
they're minus sixty seven point differential on the road. There

(09:21):
hasn't been a team in the playoffs that has been
plus two hundred point differential at home. Okaysee's plus two
forty seven. So it might sound really weird, but one
of the main reasons I love OKAC in this matchup
is because of how dominant Indiana was in Game six.
That sounds twisted and strange, but if you subscribe to

(09:43):
the zigzag approach and it hits numerous times, this is
a great zigzag spot.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
The zigzact thing works, man, and it's it's I know,
it's maybe square sometimes, but it does right. I mean,
so for those who might be new to this exact approach, Basically,
if one if a thing happens in one game that
is sort of extraordinary and not like it should, then
the next game you bet the opposite direction essentially. So

(10:10):
for example, right like Indiana wins in a blowout, which
is not happen very often. Okay, see this season. The
next game, especially euring the game, it's going to be better.
Same with the player props right, where a player either
gets so many points that it doesn't make sense and
you have to fade them the next game, or vice versa.
And then we'll have a spot with a with a

(10:30):
with a with a Thunder player that I'm betting there
over today because they've been bad for two straight games.
Unlike them, I'm fading you know, another play now. Sometimes
I will say, though Brian, like sometimes like a TJ. McConnell,
you know, you're like, oh, he's not gonna do that again,
but I think he's sort of proven, like that's what
he's going to do in this series. Right, that's a
little different between just like a sort of total not domination,

(10:54):
but just so a force. He's been plus with Hollie
burn a little beat up. He's getting more minutes, right,
He's like he's getting more of the offense versus you
got like like Obi top and just hitting a bunch
of threes in a game. You're like, it's not gonna happen.
In game seven on the road, is Obi topp I'm
gonna have seventeen points. I I'll bet against it, and
then two and I'll say this, like this Vegas is

(11:14):
not fooled by the zig zag strategy. You know, Obi
Topins had three straight games of it's like his numbers
ten and a half today. Look at they that they're
not They're not They're not fooled by I. You know, well, sorry,
with one more point to illustrate this, Brian last h
last game. I took Wiggins under five and a half
points because he had four to three pointers in Game

(11:36):
five and then with five points like that like that,
like that's it's ugly. Under five and a half, You're like,
that's two three pointers. He ended with five and he
played like twenty five minutes because he played most of
the fourth quarter in a blowout. Those zig zag spots
work a lot in the NBA Finals, and so I
keep playing them.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
Yeah, well we're gonna have to agree to disagree here, guys.
Uh pacers, huh correc no not that the zig zag theory.
This is just small term variants. It's what a lot
of people talk about and stuff. And mathematically I think
it means nothing. It's like trends going back in, you know,

(12:16):
over different periods and time. And I'm just not a
believer in any zigzag. Mathematically it means absolutely not. The
Vegas doesn't respect and I say Vegas. People think that
it's funny. A lot of people think the line is
made in Las Vegas. It's actually not. But it's made
actually in far places all shore, and everyone copies that line.

(12:38):
It just uh, they don't subscribe to that theory of zigzag.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
But crack, don't you don't you subscribe to regression.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
To the mean.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
I mean, maybe your aggression to the mean after every game.
But this is this is a very efficient market. Though,
even when the line comes up to come up at
eight and a half and go down to seven ere
let's let's use MGM's line six and a half minus eighteen.
I was shocked to see an NBA Finals Game seven
move literally two points point and a half, let's call it.

(13:09):
That's actually pretty surprised. But you guys did say something
absolutely correct, even though it didn't move that way. I
expect a lot of public money tonight to come in on.
Ok see in this line to go back up. So
what Jeff said there's probably correct. If you're gonna bet
the game, if you didn't grab that early eight and
a half, well then you don't want to bet it

(13:29):
right now. You maybe bet it a couple of minutes
before the game time or later on. But you know,
because you'll catch you half a point here and there.
It's just, you know, I'm an old school way and
I don't subscribe to anything just coincidentally zig zagging back
and forth. However, I know you're right, there is sometimes

(13:50):
that regression to the meaning just for conversations sake care between.
You know, some different ways to handicap games, and you
know NBA side. I talked about it on another show
I do a month ago, and I took some took
a little bit of heat. But I'll stand by what
I say by when I say what I'm what I said.

(14:12):
I have been around some of the sharpest gambling syndicates,
if not thus sharping gambling syndicate in the entire world,
for the last twenty five plus years, and I just
know that they don't mess with NBA sides, very little
with NFL sides too, But NBA sides very very tough
to beat. Totals of course, first half, second half, totals,

(14:35):
proposition bets, player props, but sides are that tough to beat.
So but however, I know everyone's got to have action.
Game seven NBA Sunday night.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Oh boy, Yeah, well, I don't know. I just think
it's so similar, like that's fine, cracked. I mean, you
don't have to come on board, And we got room
on the ship if you want to come on board,
but you don't have to.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
It's, by the way, not for sides and total. So
it's a I'm I like the okay, see first quarter
just because I like it. Not really a zigzag theory,
but the prop stuff. Man, these these guys, and I
just don't trust. I don't trust road players, Guys on
the road in Game sevens who just came off seventeen

(15:17):
point games.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Right, yeah, I mean, I just we talk about it
in the NFL all the time, right, and maybe you
think it differs a little bit if it's over the
course of a season, But take a team. We'll say
this going into the next season. I guarantee it where
it's like, man, this team was one in seven in
one possession games last season, Like, you're probably gonna see

(15:38):
some in that case, progression to the mean, right, Yeah,
you're You're probably gonna be a little bit better this season.
It happens time and time again. And that's basically a
season zigzag. That is essentially what it is. It's regression
or progression to the mean, and you've seen a lot
in this series. I think last game was a great
zigzag spot for the Pacers because I think it can

(16:00):
apply to the side or the total. But they were
pretty bad in Game five, got waxed pretty good and
then facing elimination with a banged up Halliburton. You know,
maybe you see it too late after the fact, but
that was a great zigzag spot for the Pacers in
Game six. I think it's a great zigzag spot for
the Thunder in Game seven. But if someone doesn't subscribe

(16:21):
to it, that's fine. There are plenty of approaches, and
I don't subscribe to all of them, but I've gotten
a lot of value out of the zigzag. Man, I'm
gonna hold to it in this one, and not just
with that. With the flip flop thing. I just think Okay,
S's better, I mean, like top to bottom. I think
they're a better team, and they're healthier, you know, with
Halliburton status, so I'm backing them. We're often running. We've

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(17:09):
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(17:56):
So we got a couple of speed racers in the
sports world here, Shaduur Sanders of the Browns, Zach Edy
of the Grizzlies. They're doing their speed racer impression. So
Shaudure he got clocked going one oh one in a sixty.
Zach Edy got clocked going one oh one in a
fifty five. Actually, Shaudure has been cited twice this month

(18:19):
for speeding, according to police records. And and look, man,
I think it's a much bigger story with Shadur Sanders.
He's an NFL quarterback who's got a big name from
his college days. Right, it's just going to be a
bigger story. And you go back before the draft, whether
it was correct or not, there was some NFL personnel

(18:41):
evaluators that thought he was unprofessional, thought he was immature.
Whether that's the case or not, that perception exists and
now he's getting busted for speeding a couple of times.
Like plank, quarterback is a decision making position. It's the
ultimate one, and he's showing poor decision making off the
It's just it's not a smart move because look, you're

(19:04):
gonna have critics that are just waiting to pounce. You
have critics that are waiting to say, see what did
I tell you about that guy? And it could take
something like this for them to say that. You don't
want to prove the critics right. And I thought, I'll
say this real fast, where when I was younger, I
can relate to this bit. When I was younger, I
used to think, if you thought something that was incorrect

(19:26):
about me, well, that's just on you that you don't
have it right. I don't know what to tell you.
That's how I thought as a young guy. And then
I matured a little bit and I thought, you know what,
I'm giving people reasons to think things that are untrue
about me. Like if you think I'm lazy, I'm not lazy.
But if I wear flip flops to a job interview

(19:47):
or something, I'm giving you ammunition to think I'm lazy.
So if Shador doesn't want people thinking he's unprofessional or immature.
He can't do things that are unprofessional and immature, and
that's what he's doing right here. So he's got to
clean that up. But I used to think, oh, you
get it wrong, man, that's on you, And then I
realized that's kind of on me. Why you think those things?

Speaker 3 (20:11):
So I think the issue for me is quarterback. You know,
your your your judgment is is very important to your success, right,
just like your general mental clarity, your preparation, and you're
in your judgment right, your your character those are important things.

(20:31):
And I'm not talking about sugars In's character here, but
I'm talking his judgment. Right. You know, you you're a
fifth round pick. You get one speeding ticket, okay, I
mean like we all we all speed, Okay, it happens.
We've all had tickets. I'm sure we've all been there before.
I've had I've had a twenty fourteen. I had like
a ninety five and a sixty five. I was just

(20:51):
going too fast. I'm on the highway and didn't realize
it and got busted. Didn't happen again, though, And I
think that's what that's the issue right now. Right where
it happened once. Okay, fine, like everyone makes mistakes, it happens,
but then it happened again, and you're questioning. You're like,
you're you're judgment your quarterback, Like, why is this happening again?

(21:14):
So that's where I stand. Where you know, you get
judged differently at that position, right, that's I mean, it's
a premium position in National Football League. You're drafted to
be the you know, eventually you want to be the
franchise leader, the face of the franchise. And again, these
are not He's not drinking and driving. No one got hurt.
I mean, you know, nothing bad happened, Crack, But his judgment,

(21:38):
question mark, what why? Why have Why is this happening
again the one time? Fine, again, we all make mistakes.
Second time. I don't know, man, that that has me
worried about his judgment.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
Yeah, excuse me, guys. Yeah, you know, not a good start,
not a good start for standards NFL career. He slipped
to fifth round after being projected as the first picked
earlier this year. Now he's proving all the skeptics right,
making news off the field already. As far as d

(22:12):
I'm a little more surprised by you. You wouldn't expect
to hear any off court news about him. He seems
like a quiet guy who keeps to himself and out
of trouble. And also at seven foot three, you think
you think he might have a personal driver on staff.
And in fact, what all the money these guys are
are getting, why don't they all have personal drivers? Why

(22:34):
do we see any of them in general? Why don't
we see players throughout the year getting a dui or
even a speeding ticket? At this point, I would think
they can, you know, have personal drivers. But then again,
I know it's the thrill of having these sports cars
and money to be able to buy things like that
and to try things out. And we've all had speeding

(22:58):
I know me. I used to drive from North Jersey
to Atlantic City and it was about an hour and
a half drive and we would try to make it there,
try to beat our record each time. And that drive back,
I'll tell you there's really no speeding on the drive back.
Everyone in the car sleeping, broke, racing home, faking the

(23:22):
tolls with my hand, like there's not even change to
pay the tolls. Boy, I don't miss any of those days.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
But I just.

Speaker 4 (23:29):
Remember having my uncle Benny left me a Chrysler New
Yorker four forty four barrel and it was nineteen seventy three.
By the way, I say seventy three of the car
was seventy three, but it was like eighty eight and
ninety when I had this car given to me. It
had twenty three thousand original miles. Uncle Benny had the

(23:49):
plastic on the back seats, never even really used the car.
That was the fastest car. I couldn't believe I had
that thing literally over one hundred many times, really easy
to go over one hundred and that. But as I
got older, you have mature. You said, how dumb is
that driving that fast? I mean, any little thing on
the road, anything you know, you can you can really

(24:10):
get hurt. So hopefully they do mature, and well we'll
see what happens here. But I know we've all done that.
I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one
that was doing that kind of thing. Like Jeff, you
said you had tickets in the nineties and stuff. And
I've been with Brian boy. He's still flying.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
All around Vegas. I'll tell you the Grapevine grapevine is
just evil in terms of speeding. You're going down that
monstrous still you don't even think you're going I gotta
take it at the at the bottom of that one time, like, yes,
most people have sped, but guess what, most people are
not NFL quarterbacks. Most people are not like under the

(24:49):
microscope highly publicized NFL quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
Like it's the twice. It's not the ones, it's the
twice that's the concern. It's one time is fine, yeah,
but twice in not show up for quarter appearance. Also,
the other thing interesting about it too is you know,
normally the team security will handle stuff like that, like
quarter appearance stuff, and they'll just get did he not
tell the Browns either that he got a speaking ticket,

(25:14):
because I just would have been like, here's my ticket.
I messed up, Like team security, can you deal with
this for me? Like I don't. The fact that I
guess no one knew about it was also pretty interesting
to me.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Yeah right, yeah, but you said it, Jeff, it's a
you know, you're judged differently as an NFL quarterback, and
you got to show better judgment than that, because that's
the thing I think you got to get into this
mindset for any player, Shader Sanders or anybody else, especially
NFL quarterbacks, where it's not just about you. You're not
in this you bubble like everything that happens to you

(25:48):
affects the team. Where does Kevin Stefanski want to answer
any questions about Shauldur's lead foot, Like, No, he's got
business to attend to. He's gonna turn into Belichick? Hey,
co what any thing about Shadura getting his second speeding ticket?
If he was honestly be like, I think I've got
bigger fish to fry, is what I think?

Speaker 6 (26:08):
You know?

Speaker 2 (26:09):
So it affects everybody else, not just you, all right,
affecting us in a good way, a great way, A
spectacular way would be one Isaac Loewencron, who's with us
this morning? He's got the latest, what it's going on?

Speaker 6 (26:21):
I Low?

Speaker 7 (26:21):
Good morning.

Speaker 8 (26:22):
Fellas a spectacular hitting display in Major League Baseball on
Saturday night by the Washington Nationals. They had five home
runs and a seven to three win over the Dodgers,
including two Biden Nathaniel Low. Speaking of home runs, the
New York Mets hit seven of them on Saturday night
and an eleven four victory at Philadelphia had a break
a seven game losing streak, Juan Soto and Brandon Nimo
two home runs a piece, and the Mets and Philly

(26:44):
is now tied for first in the NL East at
forty six and thirty one. Also Saturday night, it was
Game one of the Master of Three College World Series
Final LSU over Coastal Carolina one to nothing as LSU
pitcher Kate Anderson pitched a complete game, three hit shutout
with ten strikeouts. Finally, guys tonight at eight Eastern Game

(27:04):
seven of the NBA Finals from Oklahoma City between the
Thunder and the Indiana Pacers, and in anticipation, let's take
a special listen back to a classic Game seven introduction
from nineteen eighty eight with the legendary Brent Musburger.

Speaker 9 (27:21):
It is June twenty first, we have reached the first
full day of summer, and a tough eight month war
is about to come to an end. Inside the Los
Angeles Form. The NBA basketball season comes down to a.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
One game war.

Speaker 9 (27:38):
This crowd here died has not been a late arriving.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
One as CBS Walcup due to.

Speaker 9 (27:44):
The final game of the nineteen eighty eight NBA Finals
it's Game seven, the Detroit Pistons, champions of the East.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Against the Los Angeles Lakers, the best of the West.

Speaker 8 (27:54):
Lakers would win for the record, one to eight to
one oh five that night.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Back to you guys, believable, great stuff, Ilo, background, music's
come a long way, you know. But the for these games,
these sporting events, also movies, man, these newer movies. I'm like,
I remember when soundtracks used to suck. My gosh, not
the soundtrack. There's the back all we got. We need
tense music over here, and it's the most stereotypical.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
Like whoat well, oh yeah, whoa.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
It's like, bro, this music's come a long long way.
But great stuff. And you go back to the hot tub
time machine eighty eight Pistons Game six, when Isaiah Thomas
went crazy twenty five points in the third quarter, still
in the NBA Finals, record for most points in a
quarter on one good ankle and it was a phantom

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foul on lame Bear who didn't even touch Kareem And
then they lost Game seven, where you just heard that intro.
But that's NBA basketball lore right there. But Ilo also
mentioned Coastal Carolina going down yesterday and it was Cad Anderson.
Mister Anderswold unbelievable. Only gave up three hits, no runs,

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ten strikeouts through one hundred and thirty pitches. He was outstanding.
Here's my question to both of you guys, which underdog
would you rather back? Would you rather back the Pacers
in a one game scenario, Game seven on the road
they're plus two forty or would you rather back Coastal Carolina?
Not just money line today they gotta win two straight

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to win it all. They're at plus three twenty to
win a championship against the LSU. Who would you rather back? Jeff?

Speaker 3 (29:37):
The pitchers have won three games this series, Like I mean,
I think Coastal wins today. I think that's what I
put my own to win this game today. It's so
funny a college baseball and I think encapsulates perfectly like
college sports versus the NFL, I mean versus professional sports,
where you know, this kid do what one hundred and

(29:57):
twenty five pitches last night? You never getting that in
baseball anymore? Like never. I mean, the guy got no
hitter the other day for the Yankees and was like
one hundred pitches, you're done by You're out of the
game no more for you. You know, we saw the
LSU Arkansas game the other night. You know, so often
in college sports a team loses a gamer than wins

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a game. Ls you had no business winning that game.
Arkansas made four poor defensive plays in a row, essentially,
and so I just I'd like watching college baseball for
that reason, I think. But I would back Indiana and
I have I have two futures on the Thunder. Okay, guys,
I took one after game one, and I have a

(30:39):
bonus bet for the Thunder plus money, so I feel good.
I have a bonusman the Pacers too, So I would
make something. But do I hedge it all today? Is
my question. That's what I got to figure outf I
want to hedge it all today, I haven't done it yet.
I don't think I'm gonna do it. But uh, the
point is, Brian, I would I would much rather take
the Pacers today than called.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
Okay, I like that you're using bonus bets. I heard that.
Let's address that first. So the bonus bets at plus money.
That's the way to use and utilize bonus bets. So
so when you get these bonus bets that especially the
like like bet MGM they have to I have to
fifteen hundred sign up bonuses when you use the code

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countdown Like I am one to use that bet on
an underdog. I'm not going to use it like some
people want to use it on, like oh, give me
the Yankees minus three to one. No, no, no, you
shouldn't try to win five hundred dollars on a fifteen
hundred dollars bonus bet. You should be taking plus money. Jeff,
what did you give me an example of what what

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did you take? Okay?

Speaker 3 (31:46):
See at so I had some bonus bets, like middle
of the postseason. BETMGM just gave me a bunch of them.
I don't know why. Maybe I was losing so much money.
They're like, here here's some here's some free money. You
know why so I took. I took uh. Yeah, I
took one of the uh, the big the biggest one
I had. I put on Thunder. I think it was
like plus one fifty to win the championship. And then

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I took two smaller bonus bets and put one on
the Knicks and one on the Pacers to win the championship.
So like plus three eighty and I think whatever the
knicks were, I think we have the same both like
plus three eighty so I got two sitting there. So
but then I took but again after game one though,
I took a big wager I think like Thunder minus
two seventy five to win the championship someone that went

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when it went way down after game one. So that
account I might hedge a little bit, But the other
one's a bonus bets. I'm not gonna have my bonus bets.
I would money either way with with bet MGM tonight
on the on the result.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
Yeah, and if I had a bet one, well, you know, well,
it's been really exciting college baseball postseason, first of all.
And I shout out to my cousin, my cousin, my niece,
my niece Sarah for graduating from Coastal this month. Yeah, yeah, no,
she's she's great, you know. But she's one of those
kids that she got a job on the golf course

(33:06):
in Myrtle Beach in the cart. It's like selling drinks
in the cart. So now you know, you have a
you know, twenty two year old girl and she's she's
had a taste of money.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
Now you know.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
It's It's like girls that come to Vegas from the
middle of America and they used to make it one
hundred and twenty a day, and now they come to
Vegas and their cocktail waitress making three four hundred sometimes
a night. That's right a night. So you know I
have to Uncle Billy has to give her. They call
me you be like uncle Buck. But Uncle Billy has
to give a talk there because you know, she's now

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getting a taste of making three hundred dollars on a Saturday,
three hundred dollars cash Saturday Sunday out there driving around
the golf court. But anyway, we've had some really exciting games.
Lsu End up ended Coastal Carolina's twenty six game winging
streak yesterday really at nail biting one nothing win to
go up one nothing in this series. If I had
bet when Pacers are Coastal, I would go with the

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Pacers also because they just have to win one game
and Coastal needs to win two in a row, which
they can do, but it's obviously much tougher. But again
not be I won't be surprised if both things happen. Uh,
Like I said, I have a lot of friends in
Myrtle Beach also, and I think Coastal Caro on his successes.
It's a really cool story. So I'm rooting for them.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Yeah yeah, I'll be the weirdo on the show. I
back Coastal. I don't think Pacers are winning. I know
it's a one game scenario, but this is game seven
on the road. Okay, So he's been the best team
all season long. It is not going to be easy
whatsoever with the banged ub Halliburton to win on the
road in game seven, you're at a neutral site. Coastal's
won twenty six in a row, and the payout is different,

(34:42):
you know. Coastal plus three to twenty is obviously different
than Pacers plus two forty, so I'm getting a better return.
I know they have to win two games, but it's
basically a coin flip. Today they're minus a dollar ten. Yeah,
you know, and I just think that you gotta score.
I don't see them getting shut out the entire tournament, right,

(35:03):
the entire series. Two straight games. I think if they
get a lead, and that Offen has been pretty good.
If they get a lead, they basically have two closers.
I think Coastal is more than life to come back
and win too.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
Straight and last something on this too. Coastal did not
start their ace last night. They win the bullpen game,
so they're pitching should be better in game two than
what you're going to see from LSU.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
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Check this out our late letter.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Alright, the platter, we just have one selection. We pull
it together for a greater payout. Crack. We start with
you with something you like.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
You know, I usually saved, usually saved props for the
prop portion of the show. But I got a lot
to give out today, So let's give out a prop here.
TJ McConnell points assist over fourteen and a half. He's
been a crucial part of the bench player here for
the Pacers this series, especially over the last three games.

(37:30):
His minutes have been on the rise each game. He
brings energy and the spark for the for the coach
and the team. I expect twenty twenty five minutes for
him tonight. Expect to have the the ball in his
handle lot. So let's go over fourteen and a half
points assist for TJ tonight.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
Okay. I guess the question is, I don't know if
it's going to fit in up to Let you build
those here, Brian. It's the only thing. Yeah, I like Okay,
see first quarter, you go money line if it helps
the parlay, Brian. If not, we'll take the three and
a half for minus one oh five now for okay,
see in the first quarter. As I said, I just

(38:14):
think that if we think they'll win the championship tonight,
we're getting Brian. I agree with. Then they have to
start fast today. If they're a championship team, they're gonna
come out some pride home court. They played terribly in
Game six. I would expect a spirited effort. Defensively, they
were terrible on defense in the in the first quarter.

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They dominated first quarters after wins except one game at
the Nuggets. After loss, I should say, and really get
a home in the first quarter. So give me the
first quarter minus three.

Speaker 8 (38:45):
And a half.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Okay. It's the weird thing with props, the combo that
composts that the cracked throughout there. It has temporarily vanished.
It will be back. TJ is gone on right now.
So like a you know, like a thief in the night.
It is gone right now, but it'll be back. But
I had a TJ. McConnell prop that I will I

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will save because you obviously can't parlay those two things. Yeah,
so I will go I'm gonna take the Pacers team total.
I'm gonna go under one oh four and a half.
And you're thinking they're not gonna score one oh five.
This is game seven, okay, Like you look historically at
game sevens and they are low, low scoring. If you

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look at the game sevens since two thousand, they're all
low score. It's crazy you look at these. Okay. So
when the Cavs beat the Warriors in twenty sixteen, ninety
three to eighty nine, the Heat beat the Spurs in
twenty thirteen ninety five eighty eight, Lakers over the Celtics
twenty ten eighty three seventy nine, and my favorite, the

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Spurs over the Pistons and O five eighty one seventy four. Like,
what are we doing? I'm not expecting it to be
that low, But I'm not sure the Pacers are cracking
trip but triple digits in this one, I think. Okay,
C's defense can be feisty, gonna be a lot to
deal with. I'll take Pacers under one oh four and
a half for the team total right there. I can't

(40:12):
give you a payout on the uh on the parlay
platter because so we gotta wait for cracks to reappear.
But it'll be spicy. How about that? Is this a
good or bad thing for a league? Oh? What is
going on? Happy Sunday?

Speaker 10 (40:25):
To you?

Speaker 2 (40:26):
It is a game seven Sunday? Huh? Only secondary to
Super Bowl Sunday. Oh that's right, Okay, keep that in mind.
You know some people prisoner of the moment. Game seven
best two words in sports now second best two words
in sports to Super Bowl. But I digress we're gonna

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get to is this drama a good or a bad
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we gotta go with the drama in the WNBA recently,
so earlier this week, I'm curious what you guys think
about this. There was some drama in the FEVA versus

(41:29):
Connecticut Sun game. So Caitlin Clark, she got filed, she
got raked across the face, poked in the eye, and
there's a little bit of pushing, shoving, and then here
comes Marina Maybray and the enforcer just knocks over Caitlin.
She falls to the floor. So there was that drama,
and then later in the game some payback Sophie Cunningham,

(41:50):
the enforcer. She gets even with j. C. Shelton. She's
the rookie from the son who initially filed Caitlin, hit
her in the face, you know, poked her in the eye.
So Sophie Cunningham got some payback on JC Shelton. At
the end of the game, JC on a fast break
and Sophie just grabs her head throws her down. So

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we had some drama going on. So the question is
this type of stuff ultimately a good thing or a
bad thing for the WNBA. And I say here and
say it's a fantastic thing for the league. These fans
eat it up. If you just look at your social
media feed, it is video after video after video after
video of Sophie Cunningham, the back and forth with Caitlin.

(42:33):
How is that a bad thing for the WNBA If
this is the NFL and it's thriving and printing money
and they don't want that drama, the bad blood to
be front and center. Okay, but you have all these
people already under the tent. You know, if you look
at the WNBA, they're losing money every single year. They

(42:53):
fought for relevancy and ratings for so long. Now they're
finally starting to get some recognition. They're getting eyeballs. If
the WWE element is what draws some fans in, if
I'm the w NBM, like, hey, great, we'll take them
however we get them, and so I think ultimately it's
a good thing for the w n B A. You guys,

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you see it the same way.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
Well, yeah, I think I think any sort of publicity
is good for the w n b A. They need
it as much as possible. I watch a lot of
w NBA, now I know you do as well, Brian.
I I'd rather they fix their layup problem than worry
about this. But we need we need to make our layups, ladies,
we please. But I look, it's interesting just the dynamic

(43:43):
in the way this league is treating their superstar versus
how we treat supers in other leagues. And I think
the w NA is so far behind because they're popularity
is new to other sports, where in the NFL, to
the chagrin of all of us, we think way out
of the way to protect quarterbacks right like this is
our number one entity of the sport. If they get

(44:05):
touched by anyone penalty flag like, you're like, don't matter,
We'll We're trying to do whatever we can to keep
these quarterbacks in the game. In the NBA, there was
a foul call now got rescinded. SJ was not touched
at all, foul personal foul, like no on a problem
of review. He wasn't touched at all, like ouither way

(44:25):
to make sure that these superstars in this sport get
the treatment that they should. You on baseball, we can't
throw anyone anymore, right, they get ejected the Dodgers padres
Now that can lead to injury, of course, but ejection
immediately get out of here. We're protecting our superstars, right,
we don't want to our guys getting hit. You're out
of here. WNBA poking the eye truck stick technical foul

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on Clark too, You're like, what what, what's happening here?
And it's just so different than other sports leagues where
the WNBA feels like it goes out of their way
to not give Clark credit for anything. I mean, I look,
I'm fading the Chicago sky endlessly the entire season. I'm

(45:10):
on the dream today fifteen and a half, fifteen and
a half. Do not care the sky are terrible. You know,
you look at social media feeds yesterday, I was just
looking to see, like, w a big content. The two
tweets yesterday for WNBA. One of them was about I
don't know, some random play then Angelies making a three

(45:32):
one three. She had one shot yesterday they lost by
nearly thirty, and it's like the same energy is not
given to Clark. I think a lot of us are
just sort of surprised at sort of the not protecting
of the star and not elevating Caitlin Clark, who the numbers,
the money brought in, the arena size, the attendance, all

(45:52):
these things, the point of Clark having such a huge
impact on the league. And that's the part that I
just I don't get, and I think that manifests itself.
And just the end of that game the other day,
I don't know any other league where a player like
Maybury in that instance, who was not part of the
initial incident could truck a player and survive the rest

(46:17):
of the game and play the rest of the game.
Brian like that, so good. All Pub is great. Pub.
I just was surprised that she wasn't ejected in twenty
twenty five in nineteen eighty eight, it'd be a melee
and everyone keep playing. It's not the sports anymore, crack.
So look, all this stuff is good. It's good for
the lead to have this attention, but a lot of
us are just sort of surprised at just kind of
the again, like the lack of anything done to protect

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Kaitlin Clark.

Speaker 4 (46:41):
Yeah, good points, good points. Of course, it's a good
thing for the WNBA. Just like you said, Brian, there
drama selvesh They are hurting for eyeballs anyway, So it
just kind of drama or buzz helps the ratings for
the WNBA. I also wouldn't call it a non basketball
drama just because the drama is taking place on the court. Now,

(47:05):
I admit I don't watch a lot of WNBA, but
you know I do bet it on a regular basis,
especially the prop market. I've seen a lot of Caitlin
Clark highlights, and she really is an amazing player that
we haven't seen before in this league. I went to
dinner last night. I usually don't go to dinner Saturday nights.
I have to get up so early on Sunday morning.
Went to a real late night dinner last night Downtown

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at Circa at a Barry Steakhouse, which is unbelievable, by
the way, one of the top three in this town.
I've been there multiple times. These guys were all sports betters,
eight of them. Literally they come into town to sign
up for big contests now and talking to all these guys,
I couldn't believe what one of the highlights of the

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dinner was talking about WNBA.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
Okay, no, I mean they.

Speaker 4 (47:53):
All talked that we're talking about, and they were talking
about how much money now is in the sport compared
the years before before Kitlin Clark, and how they used
to fly a commercial now they fly private. I mean,
I didn't even know all these things. I learned these
things last night. And a lot of it is because

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Caitlin Clark has brought all this attention to the WNBA,
and you think the other players would actually embrace it
and say, hey, we're actually have chance to make more
money now and more eyeballs on us, more TV, and
we're flying private. We're getting dread a little bit different.
So it's unfortunate that we have these type of drama

(48:34):
and incidents in that in that way, I guess, But
listen for eight grown men that are all sports betters
to start talking and bring up I didn't bring up WNBA.
They did, and it was a conversation for at least
fifteen minutes. I was like, wow, they were really talking
about the WNBA, Caitlin Clark in general, about you know,

(48:56):
betting on this stuff. Of course, dur in Vegas, everyone's
a you know, they had these I don't drink, but
they had these giant things of wine, like not a
regular sized bottle loo looked like a double or maybe
even a triple sized bottle of wine. The wine was flowing,
the conversations were happening, and of course what happens, They're
all going out firing after the dinner. I could just

(49:18):
see it in their eyes. They had dice and blackjack
and craps ready to roll.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
So there you go. That's right. Yeah, you know, like
the soap opera element. I think of this for anyone
who's like, oh, this is not a good thing for
the WNBA. There are some people who think that where
Rich Orenberger, We're doing a show yesterday and he thinks
this stuff is like popcorn. You know, this isn't real.
This is just like the soap opera stuff that's fluff

(49:44):
and get it out of my face. He's in the
minority though, because people are eating this up. But for
anybody who thinks that way, I would apply this to
think about the Stanley Cup Final. We just had it.
The ratings were in the toilet. It averaged two point
five million viewers per game. That's nothing. The NFL would
have a nervous breakdown if, like the schedule release show

(50:08):
got that little of ratings, you know what I mean,
like or the draft, They'd be like, what for your
marquee event to be rated that load? Now if the
Stanley Cup Final, if it had some sort of like
soap opera element to it, Let's say it's it's similar
to Marina Maybrey, like knocking down Caitlin Clark. If you
had something that was shared on social media and it

(50:30):
generated some interest and it led to some higher ratings,
would that not be a good thing for the NHL.
Of course, it would be a good thing for the NHL.
So it'd be a good thing for any league. Whatever
gets people interested, great, fantastic, especially a league that's lost money.
Your Four Nations, Yeah, four Nations crushed the Stanley Cup rating.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
Correct because they fought, they had a fight the first
game or second game. They just three straight fights and yeah, yeah,
I think ultimately you don't want the attention to be
that we don't take care of our superstars like I
think that's certainly not what you want it to be
in the end. But right now it's good attention. And

(51:13):
I'll tell you what. Crack close your ears because this
is its exact spot.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
Okay, Caitlin Clark.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
At eleven eight and.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Nine, last game, terrible, awful game.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
And if you listen to commentary on social media, it
was Kaitlyn Clark not good, right. I don't know about
you guys. Yeah she didn't scored a ton of points,
but you're three steps away from a triple double. I
think you had a decent game, enough game. They play
the Aces tonight, and I know that I believe Asia
Wilson is.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
Back today, But.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
Buddy, I would imagine it's a big day for Kaitlyn.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Clark going yes, little a pre game before game seven,
you know, I wish'd.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
Be that'd be a ton of fun. Also worth noting
Asia Wilson over points in the account already my favorite
bet to make a w A BA season correct. This
is actually it's a real it's this is a good
trend and it's paying off the center. Like the primary
interior player for the opponent of the Fever scores a

(52:17):
ton of points every game, Brian. I have tracked it,
like a ridiculous amount of points over every single game
because the Fever can't rebound and have no interior defense.
So it's a good wager to make whenever they're playing
a team that has a functional big person, that person
scores a ton of points every game.

Speaker 4 (52:34):
Yeah, yeah, that game will be packed, Brian. You're going
to a game and it's going to be so exciting.
Mobile sold out. This is a big game, you know.
I mean, I without really annoying, I shouldn't say sold out,
but you never know. I mean this I think is
a great a Sunday game before the big game tonight. Okay,
see game in Vegas. So the guys, like I said

(52:56):
at dinner last night, we're talking about this game today
and debating whether to go to the game.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
So nice, Yeah, yeah, sold out right, I imagine sold out.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
I would imagine it.

Speaker 4 (53:05):
Yeah yeah, Brian, did you get tickets? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
Nice?

Speaker 4 (53:09):
Yeah, nice, that's a fun Have you ever been to
a w NBA game.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Yeah, I went to I saw the Aces played the
Sparks a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, yeah, Jeff jeffinitely
was talking about wagering on it. I'm like, I might
as well just go to it. I'm like, you know,
like there was just like spur of the moment type thing.
But yeah, it's cool.

Speaker 4 (53:30):
I mean, is there a home team crowd? Like, you know,
it's Vegas is I'm not fair weather, but it's it's
because we have all the different teams coming from out
of state and the fans coming from out of state.
So but is the Aces is that a good home
crowd there? Like the Raiders, which is fifty to fifty
most of the right.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
I think it's pretty good crack because you know, they've
they've had big success not that long ago, and Asia
Wilson is still an awesome player. So yeah, they have
a legit home courted they're at you know, like Mandalay
Bay normally like a court inside there. But it's it's
a nice venue. You know, it's good enough. And they
go to T Mobile because Caitlyn's in town. You know, like,

(54:12):
let's sell this thing out. But that's the interesting part
of it, I'll say real fast is I don't know
if I'm like the only person that went the other
way with Caitlyn Clark getting knocked over by Marina Maybrey,
I don't think Maybury should have been tossed. I don't
like I go back to last year. Remember you guys
will remember this. Remember when Kennedy Carter of the Sky

(54:36):
she just knocked over Caitlyn was about to get the
inbounce pass and Kennedy Carter just went over to her
and not decleted her, you know, and Angel was clapping.
It was that whole thing. She didn't get tossed her.
That was a total cheap shot, non basketball play, not
getting tossed from it. Like, I don't think Maybury walking
over and bumping Clark to the floor, I don't think

(54:59):
that rises to you should be ejected immediately. We've seen
harder files, we've seen cheaper, cheap shots, and they've stayed
in the games. I just I didn't agree that she
should have gotten the gate. Now, it led to more
bad blood with Sophie Cunningham getting even later in the game,
but I think that benefited the w NBA. I just
think this, I think I totally hear you on protecting superstars, Jeff,

(55:21):
trust me, I do. But I think that there's an
overreaction at times where Caitlyn is the golden goose and
if she gets knocked to the floor, we're like, you know,
get her out of the game, you know, get the
other person out of the game. I just don't think
some of those things rise to a legitimate reason to
get tossed. That's just me.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
But isn't it isn't it. It's more of a culative
thing right where it's like it seems like, you know,
year out, you know, the game after game, like they
they just seem to go after her, which is fine.
I mean that happens plenty in sports. But you know,
a couple of the Carter thing last year and then
Maybor got it got upgrade to flagrant two to the fact,
which would have been an injection on the on the

(56:02):
on the spot, and I think again, like giving Clark
a t as well as the funniest that was weird.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Yeah, that was the weird part.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
But she pushed the girl, that shoved her, that poked
her in the eye as the girl went up on.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
Her right and it wasn't like it was like, get on,
give me a second. Yeah like it.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
They're like, no, youre t T for you. So look
we're talking about the wa for for six seventeen minutes now.
I was obviously a good thing for the league in general.
There's a bunch of games today as well, and like
I said, I'm on the fifth bard fifteen and a half.
I did it. I absurd number today for Sky Dream

(56:40):
Scott in a back to back. They shot. They're not
good at offense. They shot fifty percent yesterday and lost
by thirty. The Sky did they go back to shooting
like forty percent. They're gonna lose this game today by
by twenty five thirty.

Speaker 4 (56:53):
Again, sixteen even seventeen at some spots in Vegas.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
I woke up this morning. I looked at numbers like
fifteen a half. Boom done because yesterday the game opened
eight and a half and got to like twelve and
a half I think before tip. So everyone's fading the skycrack.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
Yeah, yeah, you know. I'm looking at these lines. Wow,
the WNBA lines, the openers. Let's look at the game
Bryan's going to today. So Indiana opened up one in
one sixty seven and a half up to up to
one seventy one and a half. Some big movement here
on these games. Dallas Washington another game four points, Connecticut
Golden State four points. I mean, on these totals, some

(57:30):
big now, Briant, were you wager out all today going
to the game?

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Oh, I might crack. I've known to let a WNBA
wager or twenty fly you know, so very well. Most
likely will get invested in some way, shape or form.
But I'll tell you why. It's a big game for
the Aces. They've been off to a rocky start wins
and losses wise. Asia Wilson was banged up. She's back now,

(57:54):
but to beat the fever at home, that'd be a
big deal for the Aces.

Speaker 4 (57:58):
Where I come from, My guys, it's real simple. You
cannot go to a game without putting a wager on it. No,
I mean they can't just enjoy a Yankee game or
a mech game going on city field. No, they're animals.
They just gotta just action everywhere. You know, take your
kid to the game, enjoy your children and a baseball

(58:18):
hot dogs, Uh yeah, apple pie, you know, pop cracker Jacks.
It's just it's a sickness. And now gambling so fashionable.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
Forget it.

Speaker 4 (58:29):
Even we're talking about w NBA game Indiana, Las Vegas.
People going to the game, and I'm asking about, of
course you're gonna have some kind of action something even
a sawbuck or a double saw which.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
Is double saw. Yeah, give me double saw and double saw. Yeah,
it's funny. Jeff and I were texting a little bit
ago based on what you're saying there, crack where you
know you're a sports better when you're handicapping games that
lines are not even available, you know what I mean?
Like if you're at a seventh grade football game and
you're like, I'd totally be on the undrun this one.

(59:00):
You know, yeah, you're thinking like that, it's not even offered.

Speaker 3 (59:04):
I did have a friend who coaches a ten U
All Star team, okay in litle league baseball. I asked
him about a game he was going to coach earlier
this week, and he gave me a fake number on
the game. So that's that's when you know that you
might be hit a little deep. I text you a
fake number for the game. You thinks he's gonna win.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
That's beautiful. An we got Bill Krachenberger Professional Sports handicapper
Jeff Schwartz, eight year NFL veteran. I'm Brian, No, it
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the audio complements of the Mets Radio network. And side note, guys,
especially you crack because you've met my girl a couple
of times here. If you want to tick her off
for whatever reason, crack, just say Sodo like it's a
d because she'll correct it. So that's her last name,
so we joked that one Soto is her cousin, but

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she will correct you immediate. You want to get a
rise out of her, just say Sodo and just see
if she can stay composed. I don't know that she can.
She might lunge at you. I'm not sure. We've got
a Christian Sippolini right around the corner. He'll get you
all set for Game seven. What BETMGM needs if you
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Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Yes, we welcome in our good friend, Christian Sippolini, BETMGM
Trading Manager. Good morning, Christian. Okay, So Game seven thunder
minus six and a half now at BETMGM, how many
sharp bet on? How many like? How many big money
sharp plays. Have you gotten where this number has moved

(01:01:52):
as much as it has.

Speaker 10 (01:01:55):
Yeah, it was interesting when this opened at eight and
a half. I was sitting there just saying I thought
that number was crazy. You know, we've had six games
to prove that these are pretty evenly matched teams. You know,
it stems from this original ratings on the team. But
you know, when you get to a game seven, you
know you assume it's going to tighten up. So yeah,
we started taking some action on the eight and a half,

(01:02:17):
which made sense to me, and we we're down to
six and a half. There's some sevens out there, but yeah,
I wouldn't be surprised that. You know, so far at
the six and a half, we've taken nothing but thunder beets.
But you know, just on that logic alone that I'm talking,
you know, I wouldn't be surprised if it does move
in more, just towards the Pacers, just because there's a
game seven and we've seen that these two teams are close, so.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
The total is much lower than we've seen other games
for this series. Obviously, the trends of Game seven are
rock fights, even though I believe that Okay, see Denver
total went way over in their Game seven two series ago.
What do you see on the total two fourteen is
right now?

Speaker 10 (01:02:58):
Yeah, nothing over bets, which is also surprising to me.
You mentioned that thunder Nuggets did go over that PACER's
knicks from a year ago. That was a Game seven
that also went way over. But historically, when you look
at NBA's Finals Game sevens I went back in the
highest total points of one hundred and eighty two and

(01:03:19):
you get some back down there in one hundred and
sixty sixty points. These are typically really low scoring games.
So I am very stunned that we've taken I've looked
at eighty five percent of our bets to the over.
That's stunning to me. These are typically games where it
really tightens up and we get very little points. But
I guess that's how what betters are thinking right now.

Speaker 4 (01:03:40):
Christian. As far as volume on these games compared to
any other big events, I would think Game seven right now,
you probably I would think the bulk of the money
will start coming in as the day as you get
closer to the game. But however, my original question is
what kind of volume do you expect or it has

(01:04:03):
been given on this type of game compared to like,
I'll even go as far and say in a Super Bowl, like,
what kind of volume is on this game seven Sunday Night?
A lot of build up, a lot of suspense, a
lot of drama, three three game seven? What's your answer
to that?

Speaker 10 (01:04:19):
Yeah, So I expect this is going to be our
most bet NBA game of all time, just because if
you yeah, I mean, but that kind of makes sense
if you kind of look back, you know, the recent
NBA finals that we've had have been a little bit underwhelming,
you know, a lot of kind of four ones in there.
The closest almost probably that Golden State Celtics series that
went to three, four to two. But outside of that,

(01:04:40):
we've kind of had a little bit more of I
guess I would say duds of NBA finals. So that's
why I project this one to be definitely our most
bet on one. But even with that, I would say
it's probably will get close to an NFL playoff game,
maybe like a wild card round or divisional round. You know,
still nothing touches NFL, but because they're King and these

(01:05:00):
are two you know, more lower market teams, so I
think that'll kind of contribute, but I do still expect
this to be our most bed NBA game for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
If you could thread the needle Christian or like the
NFL where they say, you know, there's the script, if
there was a script today for BETMGM, lawyer, you know,
you could thread it perfectly. Where the side is in
your favor, the total is in your favor, the props
you don't have. TJ McConnell reached double digits and scoring whatever.

(01:05:31):
What does threading the needle for BETMGM look like for
you guys today?

Speaker 10 (01:05:36):
Yeah? For us, you know, we're actually in a very
good spot. We come out okay with kind of either
team winning, but we are definitely hoping that the Pacers
are the ones that pull it out. With that, we'd
hope a very low scoring Pacers win, you know, hopefully
they score pretty close. And TJ McConnell did not win
the MVP Awards.

Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
Well, I mean he does feel like if you think
the Pacers are gonna win, siakam MVP award wager could
could be something to do today. I want I want
to change sports quickly. We just spent twenty minutes talking
about the w n b A. Obviously, what happened with
Clark in two games ago. Just sort of the general
you know, just discussion about the league. How much have

(01:06:16):
you guys seen as far as action on the WNB
as you're compared to any you know, even last year,
Like is it is it more this year? Is it
double as much? Is it less? Where do you stay
on WNBA action?

Speaker 10 (01:06:27):
Yeah, I mean it's significant that we certainly see the
effect at p MGM, just just through the amount of
action that we get. If I compare the years before
Cable Clark got here, so when she did, it is significant.
And you know, typically it is the fever games. The
fever games are the ones that take the most action
to the most popular but there is a trickle down effect,
you know, we do see when the feaver aren't playing,

(01:06:48):
other games are getting action and it is a lot
more than in the past. So that's really the most
I can speak to it on is it is definitely
felt from our side.

Speaker 4 (01:06:59):
You know that that was gonna be my question because
we literally just spent that time on I was at
dinner with some guys downtown last night, all sports betters,
and they brought up WNBA for like fifteen to twenty
minutes too, So that was gonna be my question. But yeah,
it is amazing though that like the volume that there is.
Though well you're gonna say, Christian, go ahead.

Speaker 10 (01:07:19):
I was just gonna say. Also, the time of year
just really works out well for the WWA. It's in
the middle of the summer. There's usually just baseball and
there's not that much to go on. So you know,
the fact that it is gaining more popularity and more
people are watching fever games I guess is leading to
them watching more of the rest of the league as
a whole and betting on it the rest of the hole,
just because there's not so much else to do at
that time. So that definitely helps them too.

Speaker 4 (01:07:39):
As a continuation of that question about volume, now, as
baseball near as the All Star Break, which I know
we stilled out three weeks away, but will you find
that the volume will go down in baseball towards the
All Star breaking, Like you know, the pros that tried
to beat this, and baseball is so tough to beat,
it's ruling, they kind of slowed down towards All Star

(01:08:02):
Break that first week, and believe it or not, a
lot of the syndicates that I've worked with in the past.
They stop betting when it comes to all start break.
They're done for the season. So that's how hard and
how efficient the market is. Do you guys find that
throughout the second half of baseball season you'll still get
the volume that you would in the first month or two.

Speaker 10 (01:08:24):
Yeah, July is notoriously our lowest handle months either after year,
and it just because of probably what you said, you know,
one hundred and sixty two baseball games. By the time
you get to you know, game one hundred and twelve,
it's you know, kind of becoming a slog and it's
hard to sit there and say, well, this is I
know this guy's going to hit a home run in
this game. You know what's there between one and twelve

(01:08:44):
and one thirteen. So yeah, that's the same with us
as our traders. This is what we say, it's vacation
time right after this game seven? Do you want to
use your vacation days using the summer, not during football season?

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
So cool work for us too.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
Very nice. All right, christ did, thanks for the time
as always, hope you enjoy game seven and you'll crush
the sports betters too much.

Speaker 10 (01:09:06):
Please, all right, I'm trying it. Hey, watch out for
those overs people. They keep betting them. It's a low
scoring games.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
There you go, there you go, all right, appreciate it.
There is Christian Zippolini bet MGM trading manager. Okay, we
go from heavy hitter to heavy hitter from Christian, Isaac
lowand cronn I Low with the latest.

Speaker 7 (01:09:24):
Yeah, a lot of heavy hitters in Major League Baseball.

Speaker 8 (01:09:26):
On Saturday night, the Washington Nationals hit five of them,
and if seven to three went over the Los Angeles Dodgers,
including two by Nathaniel Low. The New York Mets hit
seven in an eleven four win at Philadelphia to break
a seven game losing streak. One Soto and Brandon Nemo
two home runs apiece. Mets and Phillies now tied for
first in the NL East. In Game one of the
Master of Three College World Series Final on Saturday night,

(01:09:47):
LSU over Coastal Carolina one to nothing. Is LSU pitcher
Kate Anderson hitched a complete game, three hit shutout with
ten strikeouts. Tonight at eight Eastern Game seven of the
NBA Finals from oklahom the city between the Thunder and
the Indiana Pacers, and in anticipation. Let's once again take
a special listen back to a classic Game seven intro,

(01:10:09):
this one from nineteen ninety four with Jim Fagan and
Bob Costas.

Speaker 3 (01:10:17):
There we go, bitter views. Is there NBA on NBC.

Speaker 4 (01:10:24):
For nineteen ninety four NBA Finals.

Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
Good Night Pay.

Speaker 6 (01:10:32):
Seven between the New York Knicks and the Houston Ruckets.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
Definitely letting it breathe.

Speaker 6 (01:10:39):
Sometimes the waiting is the most difficult part. Excruciatingly difficult.
In about seventy two hours, Sakim, Elijah On and the
Rocket's new they had survived to play a Game seven,
the most important of their professional basketball lines. Maybe even
more difficult for Patrick doing in the next save for
the practices and the meetings, idling the time away anahots

(01:11:00):
out inside the Rocket, lock and round and on the
other side, Charles Opley as he is his custom, trying
it chill, listening to the tunes.

Speaker 7 (01:11:08):
About ten minutes on the.

Speaker 8 (01:11:10):
Tim roll and guys here some thirty one years later,
in my hot little hand, I have the officials for
Game seven.

Speaker 7 (01:11:18):
Tonight you ready?

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
Okay?

Speaker 7 (01:11:19):
In his twentieth season.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
Scott Foster where you can get him?

Speaker 8 (01:11:23):
Nope, now, Sean Wright in his fifteenth season, Josh Tivin
and in his thirtieth season, James Capers. Those are your
officials for Game seven tonight, guys.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
It Scott Foster.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
Interesting, yep stuff, Thank you EI. Those very nice. It
is Fox Sports Radios Countdown presented by bet MGM. How
about John Starks that game Game seven against the Rockets
shooting a brisk eleven percent from the field. That nottt
what you're looking for right there? So that's who won

(01:11:57):
that game, the Rockets.

Speaker 3 (01:11:59):
Yeah, right, gets on that one and he shot.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
What eleven percent from the field in.

Speaker 3 (01:12:04):
A win in a loss? I think that that's the
uh the Sabrino on Newski right, the one for eighteen
in a championship gaming with the Aces last year or
whatever it was. That's that's that's tough, you know, but
they won't.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
So yeah, so take it, you know, let me say
something to you real fast. We're up against it. We
got to get to prop it up coming up here.
But I heard something from an odd couple promo that
I thought was really interesting. So the promo was about
the Dodgers getting involved with the Ice agents. Right, I'm
sure you've heard this story where yes, Ice agents were

(01:12:39):
on their way to Chavez Ravine. They're going to Dodger Stadium,
and the Dodgers intervened and said, no, we're not allowing
you access. And Rob g who's the producer of the
Odd Couple, he got on the mic and he said,
there are two very different reactions to this story. There
are those that are fully on board, and then there
are those that are like, I'm a former Dodger fan,

(01:13:02):
and the only point I want to make is what
happened to just disagreeing. I don't understand why it's this
all in, all out mentality, Like you don't live your
life like that. I can understand someone saying, hey, I
just don't think they should get involved with the political issue.

(01:13:22):
I mean, I don't agree with that personally, but I
could see someone having that stance, fine, But to then
take it to the next degree of and I'm a
former Dodger fan. You don't live your life like that,
you know what I mean? Like if if my girlfriend
doesn't put the dishes in the dishwasher, I'm not going
to live my life like I broke up with her.
Can't have it, can't have dirty dishes, And she's gone

(01:13:44):
out of here bye. See you. If I had a
son and he didn't do his homework, not like I
got rid of him, you know what I mean. Like,
there's so many people it blows my mind live their
lives and react to stories that way. When they don't
live their lives that way, it's easy to.

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
Me, Well, I don't think those people are being honest,
so that's part of it as well.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
Fair enough something they're.

Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
Saying those things. Same remember of the NFL.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
I've never watched the NFL. Ever, Okay, yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
Don't believe that, so like that's part of it as well.
I just don't believe these people. So it's it's easy
to say that I'm not Dodger fan anymore. Also, like what,
I don't even know this specific thing, and not allowing
them to basically stage in Dodger Stadium. It's private property.
You can't just take it over without a warrant. I

(01:14:35):
guess in the situation, the Dodgers just said no. I'm
sure they've said no other people too that want to
use their parking lot. It's a giant parking lot, and
that of downtown LA. It's a good place to be
if you need to stage anything and they just said no,
and so do people want do people? I don't want to.
Let's not go there. I'll just say that the people

(01:14:56):
that say I'm the longer Dodger fan are not real
Dodger fans. That simple. Yeah, you know, I remember back
to when people in the NFL were kneeling and I
I got a discussion with my dentist out of all
people who said something like, I don't watch the NFL
anymore because I used to like watching the anthem and

(01:15:16):
it's ruined for me. And I said to him, you know,
don't show the anthem on TV outside of like the
Super Bowl, right, Like, that's not a thing that's ever done.
So you're not if you're in person the anthem is
being played, right, But otherwise the game comes on after
the anthem on Sundays at like one oh two pm.
The first kise, like, doesn't they don't show the anthem,
So you're making up something to be angry about. You're

(01:15:40):
not a real fan. You're not really actually watching the game.
If you say I watched, I like watching the anthem.
It's not something that we often see in NFL games
on TV. Special occasions maybe Thanksgiving, right, they have a
special performing artist. Super Bowl maybe game one of the season.
That's it. On an NFL Sunday, you see the anthem
zero times. So that's the same thing, right that it's

(01:16:00):
not a real football fan, someone who wants to be angry.
The people say, I'm not Dodger fan anymore. You're not
really Dodger fan. You're not really Dodger fan. You're just
saying that to be angry.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
No, it's a good point.

Speaker 4 (01:16:09):
And yeah, being angry is something that's it's fashionable now,
especially behind anonymity. And you know, we see that all
the time. I've personally witnessed that many times in social media. Again,
behind anonymity, you see that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
So yeah, anyway, I know it's the desire to be
angry or yep, so easily angered. It's it's really random, man,
But I think it's at its peak right now. All Right,
We've got Bill Krakenberger, professional sports handicapper, Jeff Schwartz, eight
year NFL veteran. I'm Brian No coming up next. Prop
it up? That is right, the prop betting market. Oh, crack,

(01:16:48):
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Speaker 7 (01:17:22):
This prop it up player plays all right.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
Crack, we start with you. What's something you like? Well,
I gave you.

Speaker 4 (01:17:31):
Guys, o'connells, want to check the okay t McConnell.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
I gave you the points and.

Speaker 4 (01:17:36):
His sister already over as a prop over fourteen and
a half. It's going to go to an alternate total
on this game tonight. And just that we've had Christian
on the head of bet MGM, and he was looking
for some under money because he's getting all over money.
So I'm gonna go to the alternate market. Let's go
under the two eleven and a half and take a

(01:17:57):
dollar thirty. It's always nice to take a plus a
plus money there. So let's go on to two eleven
and a half, just three points off the total and
take some plus money.

Speaker 3 (01:18:08):
Fantastic. How many do you want? You want them all
at once or.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
You yeah, go for it?

Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
Well, so carus Caruso's at nine and a half right now,
at plus one hundred, it was eight and a half.
I think you could wait maybe and possibly get eight
and a half a little bit later today. I like
Cruso on a bounce back twenty two minutes, no points.
He's been two straight games now with not a lot
happening back home Game seven. They'll need him today as well.
I I really despise myself for doing this, But where's

(01:18:41):
the where's the combination be's at? Now? You have to
press the all tab right to get the conplay on
Combo Stats. Brian, I'm gonna hate it. I'm gonna do
it anyways, despising yourself because I hate watching it. I
hate you know. I'd like to to root for the
person i'm wagering on, Like I like to like visibly
be like, yeah, I'm rooting for that guy. Okay, I
don't like Rudy for chet Holmgren. But over twenty five

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point five rebounds in points. Okay, he's gonna bounce back today,
I think, And they need him in a big weaight home.
He's much better at home and he's in the road.
Give me holmegrin here, and I have other ones who
could we could do later.

Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
Should have a lot of rebounding opportunities right game seven,
Maybe it's a quality look for the Pacers. Game seven,
Clangetty Klang. You know, I think he's gonna have a
lot of rebounding opportunities. So I hear you on that,
all right, crack the great great Zigzags five?

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
TJ McConnell under three and a half rebounds? Okay, Now
the think about this. He's had three separate games with
only one rebound in this series. He had ten rebounds
over the first five games. He had nine rebounds in
the last game alone, nine rebounds. He turned into Ben

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Wallace before our eyes. He's not going for over three
and a half rebounds. It's minus one forty on the under.
I love it, okay, I'm all over the TJ under
there all right? Coming up next? What is the formula
for a championship. Oh what is going on? Happy game

(01:20:21):
seven Sunday to you. Hope your day is off to
a great start. Oh, we got to get to a
championship formula and also correlated parlays. I know you're all
about this, crack. You know, let's dive into this real fast,
because I was just a clinking around here on the
bed mgm app And it's wild where I know, crack.

(01:20:46):
You like the part the correlated parlays, and if you're
going down that road, it makes a lot of sense
for it to be correlated. Don't take this as me
raging against that, because it's not. But if you can
somehow find an uncorrelated parlay that makes sense, it can
help your payout a ton. It's wild how much it differs. So,

(01:21:08):
for instance, I just put in I had Jeff's earlier
selection where he had OKC minus three and a half
in the first quarter. I see a fast start as well.
And then I just put in my latest selection for
prop it up right, TJ McConnell under three and a
half rebounds, And I was just curious, like, well, what

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would the payout be if I took OKC minus the points?
So if you add OKC minus six and a half,
your payout for that three leg parlay would be plus
three fifty Okay, plus three fifty. If instead of OKC
minus six and a half, you went with Indiana plus

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six and a half, your payout would be plus seven
seventy five. Think about the difference between plus three point
fifty and plus seven seventy five, Like, could you not
see hot start for Okay, see but the zombie pacers?
You know, zombies in a movie. They just keep coming
after you slowly, and they're not dead yet, and all

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of a sudden it's a nail bier at the end.
You can't see that happening. I could absolutely see that
within reason of happening. The difference between those two is
over four to one. Just the difference between that final leg,
that blows my mind.

Speaker 4 (01:22:29):
It sounds like a lot. You're right, I'm on the
MTM app now look at that myself, just to look
at to see these differences. I don't think about them
too much because I'm not a parlay better. However, we're
talking the situational here of correlated or the opposite of correlated.
So and that's the reason why I guess you're getting

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that difference, they would you say, it's plus seven and
a half the one.

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:22:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
If you went with Indiana last leg plus the points,
it's plus seven seventy five. If you took OKC minus
the points, it's true plus three fifty.

Speaker 4 (01:23:04):
Sure they're really thinking it's correlated. You know, I have
waived the white towel on all my shows across all
my platforms because and when I say that is no
matter what I know my boys when they come in
from New York, New Jersey, South Philly, I know what
they're doing in Vegas. If they're coming in with two
thousand bucks, they're not betting two to three percent of

(01:23:24):
your bankroll, not even five percent. They're firing four games,
five hundred each. If they lose that, they're going to
the credit cards. They lose that, they're going to over
the Western Union. I mean, you know, for anyone that
is pre nineteen ninety at Western Unions, there used to
be only one on the strip of the old Barbary Coast.
It was always lined up for people were sending money.

(01:23:46):
It's funny. No one ever sent money there. Everyone always
received money. So but going back to what I'm saying,
is I do when I say I wave the white towel,
I have no Boy's gonna be hard to say this.
I have no problem with someone betting a peanut parlay.
And let's say they want they have four games they

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like and they're going about one hundred bucks each if
you want a better four team or for ten bucks.
It's negative TV, But go ahead, do you have some
fun root for it? Throughout the years, when I did
this show for a whole year with you guys, I
had no idea. The Schwartz syndicate was fire and six
seven eight parlays on Sundays.

Speaker 3 (01:24:26):
I found this that is not true at all. One
money line parlay every Saturday and Sunday it always it
always lost by one leg because that's how parlays lose, right,
like you get seven of eight. It's always like I
always added one sort of about even money or maybe

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even one slight dog that one always hits, because you know,
that makes a parlay go from eight to one to
sixteen to one right to one. That one always hits.
But it's the minus three hundred favorites that just that loses,
right of course, So I know, Crackle love my my
blocks parlay for the final hit a thirty I think
it was. Yeah, and you're right though.

Speaker 4 (01:25:09):
Why Jeff, why is that? Why is it? And Brian too,
why is it only one leg? It comes down to
that one leg that loses.

Speaker 3 (01:25:17):
Because it was because it was easy, everyone will do it.
I guess right.

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
It's what you say, nothing easy, No easy wins.

Speaker 5 (01:25:24):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:25:26):
Easy wins. That's why. Yeah, look the parlor. Look we
talked about all the time, right, it's about bakewell management.
You know, if you do a parlay, just make sure
it's it's reasonable, it's manageable. And you know I it's
that's device we give. We give everyone all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
Yeah, absolutely, all right. If you guys look at the
formula to win it all for each team. Okay, we'll
start with the Thunder. What do you think the formula
is for them to win game seven?

Speaker 1 (01:25:57):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:25:57):
Like I would start off, You think about the Heels
the last game. You got take care of the basketball.
Look at all the turnovers in game six. They had
twenty three turnovers that led to thirty two Pacer points.
If you just take care of the basketball, your defense
should be nasty. It typically is, and you have all
these advantages with your depth, your front line players. Halliburton's
banged up, just take care of the basketball. If the

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thunder do that, that's a big part of them winning tonight.
What else would you add to that? The formula for
OKC assist assist.

Speaker 3 (01:26:28):
When they have a high assist total, they win. And
I know Game four is the outlier with SJF zero
was it game four? Game five was zero assist and
they won. It was Game four, right, zero assist and
they won. When they have a bunch of assists, that
means they're sharing the ball, guys are making their threes.
I mean, they're not a prolific three point shooting team
in the postseason, and they were certainly not last game,

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but they can be. And if the ball is being
shared around and they're in that twenty the twenty five
assist range, they win a lot other basketball games. That
means are making their shots, the balls moving, it's not
an SG eight. And also you know when the ball's
moving like that, guys are making shots, that opens up
more room for SG to do what he has to do,

(01:27:10):
gains the paint, hitting some of those those those those
mid range shots. So that to me is a formula
for their success. Is there assist number over.

Speaker 4 (01:27:19):
Twenty Okay, Yeah, Like we talked a little bit about
this before. In these game sevens, Uh, usually defense grinded
out battles. Okac is gonna have to hit them. Like
I said, they're open freeze. They have not shot. They
really haven't shot at great this series and aren't a
great three point team in general. But the Pacers are

(01:27:41):
giving them some outlooks deep, so they have to hit
those those shots. Uh. They have to get some production
out of their bench also to keep their starters fresh,
especially in the fourth quarter. Uh, they're gonna have to
get those free you know, get to the free throw
line a lot more. For the Pacers. Halliburton look pretty
good in Game six, like his injury really wasn't holding

(01:28:03):
him back. They have had success in this series turning
the turning the thunder over. They if they want to
win tonight, they will need to force a lot of
those turnovers. So Siakam has been key in this series.

Speaker 3 (01:28:18):
Also.

Speaker 4 (01:28:19):
I think he's gonna need a big game tonight if
the Pacers want to pull off this upset. And you
know it's only seven points, but it still is an upset.
So especially after game one and game out. Man, people
were people were just the money that they took here
in Vegas. Vegas is rooting. Uh probably, I'm thinking now

(01:28:40):
they got some even action, a little bit more even,
but they took so much.

Speaker 3 (01:28:44):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:28:45):
See I took the two different bookmakers here in town
that run big sports books here in town, and they
got nothing but okay s money line. Uh you know,
after after that game and they just literally were saying
that they probably can't get enough on Indiana. They're probably
just gonna be rooting for Indiana in this series. Now,

(01:29:06):
I don't know after yesterday's game though, what happens. You know,
it's funny I shouldn't say yesterday the game six. It's
funny thinking about though, how much more money in volume.
Herbert Christian said, this is going to be their number
one volume sports betting game in the NBA of all
time since they've been taking bets. Just think about that now. Now,

(01:29:28):
if it didn't come down to Game seven, you know,
I don't know how the sportsbook maybe would have fared.
But this game seven, lots more volume on props, lots
more volume side and total Sunday Night couldn't ask for
anything better again one of the other one other reason
why Bill Krachenberger will not be getting out the collection

(01:29:49):
bucket anytime throughout the year for bookmakers.

Speaker 2 (01:29:53):
Okay, Craig, you touched on it. If you're looking for
the formula for the Pacers to win Game seven pull
off a stunt, not just in Game seven, but the
series as a whole, it starts with what I just
said with Okay, see, I think it's even more important
for the Pacers take care of the basketball. They've been
plagued by turnovers in multiple games in this series, and

(01:30:14):
so you got to take care of the ball, and
this sounds like something that would fly in the face
of that. I also think they have to play fast.
You know, Jeff, you always talk about the bad Celtics offense.
It's not always bad, but like the Tatum dribbles for
twenty seconds and then just ISOs and puts up a shot.
Like the Pacers, that's not what makes them special. These

(01:30:36):
game sevens that turn into grinders, and let's say the
shot clock is winding down at the very end, that's
not what makes the Pacers special. They play with a
quick pace, they move the ball, there's action, there's movement.
This like slow it down, value each possession like your
life depends on it. That's not what makes them specials.

(01:30:58):
They got to play fast. They have to play with pace,
and that can lead to being at more risk for
turning the ball over. But they have to walk that
line because if they get too slow, I think they're
freaking done. I don't think they have a chance if
they're too slow tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:31:14):
So part of that is is Okac missing right, because
when you miss, you get the rebound and you go right.
If Okase's making their shots tonight, that really severely limits
the ability to go fast right. It allows them to
set up their defense. And I think too I mentioned
this earlier today. Games four and five, the Thunder tried

(01:31:38):
to pick up holly Burn super early in the possession
half court, but even thirty five feet away, maybe sometimes
full court, and they just didn't do that in Game six,
I don't think again they thought that he wasn't healthy enough.
So I think they're going to go back to doing
that again tonight, which again can slow down the Pacers offense.
Right if we make sure that we try to get
some pressure on Hollyburn early, really test this calf out,

(01:32:00):
that can really slow down the Pacers offense. You're right.
When they're when they're out and running and making plays
and shooting open, open threes, they have a chance to
make some magic. And two, if if Miles Turner can
start making shots again, that that changes how obviously they
can they can play, how up tempo they can play.
You know, Mathern has done nothing for a couple of games.

(01:32:23):
Now is it's gonna be a mather Aron twenty five
point game. He makes him go a little more up
tempo because you're absolutely right tempo tempo and you know,
okay again, okay, see missing shots and and and getting rebounds.
I believe correct me, I'm wrong. Brian chad Holmger has
a four rebound lead over Sea Oakham right now for

(01:32:45):
most rebounds in the series.

Speaker 2 (01:32:47):
I haven't checked, but it's you're probably right about that.

Speaker 3 (01:32:50):
It's super stunning that Seacom is even here, to be
honest with, He's not a rebounding machine. Yeah, so you know, again,
if Sacam has twelve rebounds, that probably means things are
going well. If he has a winning that that rebounding
proper probably means that we're seeing some really good play
from him and they're missing a lot of shots are
the Thunder so again Game seven and a home. I

(01:33:13):
like the Thunders their tempo and pace and their role players.

Speaker 4 (01:33:17):
Tonight, guys, I'm just looking at the quarter lines here.
I'll tell you what, MGM. Many things are not really
surprising to me. I guess, but you know you don't
expect a book with so much volume to have lines
like that be a to be looking for a bet.
In other words, there's no six and a half's out there.

(01:33:39):
Since we're on air, it actually moved three cents even more.
It was minus six and a half minus eighteen. Now
it's minus six and a half minus fifteen. And they
also have the only, well not the only, but one
of the only three and a half's out there on
the first on the first quarter. There's a lot of
a lot of threes out there. They have three and
a half, so they're with you, guys. They think that

(01:34:01):
Thunder is gonna come out in the first quarter. If anything,
I would maybe go more towards the money line first quarter,
but nuts, I'm staying away from that and my old
line that I used during football season.

Speaker 2 (01:34:15):
I'm rooting for you, guys. I'll tell you one other thing,
to keep in mind how the minutes are distributed with OKC.
If you look at Mark Dagnault, I call him Mini TIBs.
You know, he doesn't have the Tom Thibodeaux reputation, but
in multiple playoff games in this NBA Finals series, he's
played his starters huge minutes. Sga has played at least

(01:34:39):
forty minutes in three of the six games, like half
of the games at Jalen Williams plays heavy minutes. So
it's something to keep in mind, right, because it could
play out this way. If you look at the Pacers,
they've already made NBA playoff history. Indiana is the first
team to have eight players with two hundred plus points
in a single postseason. So we know about the Pacers depth,

(01:35:02):
and so keep it in mind, right if you're seeing Sga,
Jalen Williams, the starters getting heavy minutes, not a ton
of minutes for the bench guys. Yeah, you could have
a situation where it's the Pacers doing their normal rotation,
playing ten dudes right against the pace against the OKC
who's going primarily with their starters. It's something to keep

(01:35:23):
in mind for a Game seven that could become just
this defensive grinder, you know type game. You could get
real tired playing defense like that for that long if
the starters play huge minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:35:36):
I'm glad you mentioned this, Brian, because one thing that
I find so interesting about the series is Dagnolt, the
Thunder coach, doesn't have his five he trust, and he's
trying to figure out who those five are in every game,
and the Pacers have the rotation. So now they might
have a game where like Shepherd plays more than Mathren.

(01:35:59):
You know, of course, like that happens because one guy's
hotter than the other, one sort of on off right,
But like he knows his five, who the what's the
five the optimal five for the Thunder. I feel like
that he hasn't know yet. And the rotations in this
series have been like do we start two big guys?
Do we not? Then second half of Game six they

(01:36:19):
started Caruso instead of Harden seeing and then sometimes they
want to play the five small guys and sometimes they
don't know, and that's what makes us so intriguing. Hitting
in Game seven is like DoD I think they start
two bigs again. I think you just have to. That's
what your starting lineup has been all season, like you
could go to but there's an argument that that the
Case and Wall Walls lineup is is better, the Caruso

(01:36:40):
lineup is better. Like I don't know. Basically that means
hard and Scenes out and they put one of the
other guys in for him. You know that that if
if Chet's making a bunch of shots, say maybe he's
the optimal guy. Harden Scene can go for twelve and eight.
Maybe they they don't know which is which is why
in the regular season they're so good because their depth
is so big. Their depth is But in this series

(01:37:01):
like this, you have to game seven, five minutes left,
four point game. Who do you think, Okay, right, five
minutes left, four point game. Who are the thunder putting
on the court.

Speaker 2 (01:37:13):
It's gonna be Sga Jalen Williams. You probably have Chat
out there, probably for defense. Yeah, who's the fifth that's
the thing, might be Caruso. You might have Caruso out
there instead of Hartenstein or Wallis. If he's playing well,
maybe yeah, have him.

Speaker 3 (01:37:29):
I feel like the Pacers have their five, and that's
a big difference in the series. The Pacers have their
five guys, and you know, maybe Obi toppins in instead
of Miles Turner. You know, just depending on how those
guys are playing. But like the five are in the
five right, it's Hally Burton, Siakamnie Smith, Nemhart and then
again a big guy who depending on the game.

Speaker 4 (01:37:49):
Yeah, yeah, you know, I think the Thunder have to
play their role. Guys during the first three quarters are
going to keep their starters fresh for the fourth. Right,
These game sevens are typically grueling types of games that
are uh literal, physically emotionally raining. The Pacers have great depth,
as you guys have said, so you expect their starters
to be fresh late in the game. We've seen that

(01:38:10):
in the fourth quarter of these series of the series,
the Thunder starters looked like they just didn't have the
energy late in the game that the Pacers had. It
would be key tonight really for the Thunder bench to
get quality minutes so that Sga and Williamson are at
full strength the last Like you said, let's use that
the last five minutes of the game.

Speaker 2 (01:38:30):
Yeah, it's a great point, Krack, And think back to
where this series started to turn. It was game four, right,
the Thunder were facing a three to one deficit, if
they lost that game and SGA got rest in the
first quarter. He had played the full first quarter the
previous nine straight games, all twelve minutes, and in that
Game four, he rested for at least four minutes in

(01:38:53):
the first quarter, and even though he played forty minutes
in the game. Yeah, that was a big difference. That
was a big deal. Thirty five points. You have a
special down the stretch at a couple of huge shots
in the final three minutes. Pacer fans will point out
the push off aniseman, but he had some huge shots
and he had the energy to do that. So keep
that in mind. How much does SGA rest in the

(01:39:14):
first quarter in the first half, because he's gonna need
that rest late in the game. There's no doubt.

Speaker 3 (01:39:20):
They have changed their substution pattern with him in since
Game four where he does get that first quarter rest.
For those who might not pay attention to, just like
I think Brian and I do, most often, the superstar
plays the full first quarter and then takes off the
first three minutes three to six minutes the second quarter.
Now some play nine minutes and then take off and

(01:39:41):
then come back like there's but most and now SGA
is coming out with like six minutes off the first quarter.
He's getting more rest early in the game, which might
effect if you want to wager on first quarter points
or first quarter this and that. I don't feel it's
gonna be my first quarter wager if sj is not
in the lineup in the first quarter. Right, But like that,
because again, like I said, most of the time, we
did this in the postseason where we faded the Nuggets

(01:40:02):
the first race to ten points because Jokic didn't play
in the start of the second quarter. But then they
changed their rotation up one game because they had to,
and I got screwed. I mean, this is worse, right, right,
But it's just worth noting that they have changed the
pattern for his substitution, and so, like us, if we're
in the first quarter, just no, he doesn't play twelve

(01:40:24):
minutes anymore. He plays about eight to nine the first
quarter to get him a little bit rest.

Speaker 2 (01:40:28):
Yeah, it is wild because I'll say, real fast, you
get used to teams and their substitution patterns, like you
said with Jokich, Jeff, where it's like, all right, he's
resting for a handful of minutes to start the second quarter,
you watch the pacers numerous times, depending on what prop
I have. I'll be like my guys out if I'm
on and over and then he's back.

Speaker 7 (01:40:48):
Is it back in?

Speaker 2 (01:40:49):
He's out again?

Speaker 1 (01:40:50):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:40:50):
It's just crazy. It'll be in for like two minutes
and then they're out. It's like a line change in hockey.
What Carlile does.

Speaker 3 (01:40:57):
Yeah, it is. And then of COURSENBA substition patterns make
no sense. You can you can never wager on them, Yeah,
any sort of way, because they're they're just the oddest
tumb batters, not NBA subste batteries.

Speaker 2 (01:41:10):
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so no one has accused us of not being gas bags,
you know, so we're a little late. We're a little late,
you know, clock integrity, little little iffy, little ify. So
we're gonna go to I Low right out of the gate,
and then we will reconvene for Game seven. And ball
being on the brain, which it always is, I Low

(01:42:57):
with the latest. What's going on here, sir, and.

Speaker 8 (01:42:59):
I appreciate you not saying and speaking of gas bags.
I mean, let's face it was. That would have been
an alley right to the rim guys. In Major League
Baseball on Saturday night, the Washington Nationals hit five home
runs at a seven to three went over the Los
Angeles Dodgers.

Speaker 7 (01:43:13):
Nathaniel Lowe hit two of them.

Speaker 8 (01:43:15):
The New York Mets hit seven home runs and at
eleven to four victory at Philadelphia that broke a seven
game losing streak. Juan Soto and Brandon Neimo two home
runs apiece. Mets and Phillies now tied for first place
in the National League East. Also on Saturday night, in
Game one of the best of three College World Series Final,
LSU over Coastal Carolina one to nothing thanks to a

(01:43:35):
gem by LSU pitcher Cade Anderson, a complete game three
hit shutout with ten strikeouts tonight at eight Eastern Game
seven of the NBA Finals from Oklahoma City between the
Thunder and the Indiana Pacers. The NBA announced the officials
for tonight's contest Sean Wright in his twentieth season, Josh
Tiven in his fifteenth campaign, and the Crew Chief in

(01:43:57):
his thirtieth season. James Kpers In anticipation of Game seven,
Let's take a special listen back to another classic Game
seven intro, this one from twenty thirteen, as Lebron James
and the Miami Heat faced the San Antonio Spurs game.

Speaker 3 (01:44:14):
On our whole floor to bring home another championship.

Speaker 5 (01:44:16):
Man, this is everything that we worked for all season long,
all the sacrifice. If we be made to each other,
dog every single day, dog, every single minute, Let's don't
pay off. They say hardwork payoff, man, So let's make
this game become true.

Speaker 11 (01:44:31):
Lebron James and the Heat coming off one of the
most remarkable finishes you'll ever see, a breathtaking overtime victory
in Game six to keep their season alive May while
Tim Duncan and the San Antonio Spurs suffering as gut
wrenching a loss as you can imagine now the former
champs with an opportunity to redeem themselves.

Speaker 8 (01:44:53):
Miami would win the ballgame ninety five to eighty eight,
as James scored thirty seven points and had twelve rebounds.

Speaker 3 (01:45:00):
Right, I mean, I do what you're talking about.

Speaker 7 (01:45:02):
Then back to you guys, Thank you Ilo.

Speaker 2 (01:45:04):
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(01:45:25):
ball because ball is on the brain. This was Tyrese
Halliburton right after the Pacers game six win, right, great win.
They led wire to wire, led by thirty points heading
into the fourth quarter. And this is what Tyrese Haliburton
had to say with Scott Van Pelt on Sports Center
after the game. But that's really important. Good stuff by

(01:45:47):
Halliburton here right now.

Speaker 6 (01:45:48):
For the next two days, everybody's going to be talking
about how good we looked, not well we played, how
much pressure is on Oka?

Speaker 3 (01:45:55):
See you know that that's.

Speaker 4 (01:45:56):
Going to be the narrative, and we got to do
a good job of staying away from that stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:46:01):
You know, I think that could be poison. That's right,
like channeling is inner Nick Saban talking about rat poison
right there. But you think about it. They've gotten days
of that, so got to guard against that today. And also,
you guys will both love this. So college World Series
going on Coastal Carolina. They're trailing LSU one game to nothing.
This is a great back and forth before game one.

(01:46:23):
Listen to this question and a great answer by Coastal
Carolina players. Here you go, your.

Speaker 7 (01:46:29):
Thoughts on LSU.

Speaker 11 (01:46:31):
What do you admire just as student athletes and fans
of baseball?

Speaker 3 (01:46:35):
What do you like about the Tigers?

Speaker 1 (01:46:44):
Not a whole lot.

Speaker 2 (01:46:48):
That's tremendous, right, come on, man, But yeah, they're trailing
one nothing. Got to score some runs, obviously, But what
did they.

Speaker 3 (01:46:55):
Expect those kids to say? Like, oh, really, LSU? Yeah
I can't.

Speaker 2 (01:47:00):
Right, Wow?

Speaker 3 (01:47:01):
How how about that hope we can hope we survive?

Speaker 2 (01:47:04):
Yeah? No, it's it looks like a really bad question.
After I don't know. Sometimes you think oh, it's gonna
go great and you have this answer in mind, and
you're like, I was way off. I think that reporter
probably thought that, okay, how about a ball on the brain.
So continuing the holdout, this would be Shamar Stewart of

(01:47:25):
the Cincinnati Bengals. We have not been able to touch
on this story. And uh, I just think of both
of you, guys. I thought of you last night because
both you, Jeff and Crack you're married, right, and it's like,
would you get into a fight with your wife that
you really can't win. You either can't win the argument,

(01:47:48):
or even if you win the argument, you still don't
really win in the long run. Would you ever do that?
Would you ever sign up for something like that? Of
course not right. I think that's where the Bengals are
right now. So there's the contract language stalemate and the
Bengals they're trying to protect themselves where they're looking for

(01:48:08):
a couple of assurances where they could get out of
some future guaranteed money in the event of a default
if there's a suspension for on the field or off
field conduct or Samar gets hurt. So the thing to
me is they're at a stalemate with their first round pick.
They look petty, they look cheap, and it you might

(01:48:31):
not even save yourself any money. Depending on how things
unfold with Shamar. So how are you winning? You're fighting
this battle that I don't think you can win. I
don't understand what the Bengals are doing. No other team
is doing this right to this degree. I don't understand
what Sincy is doing here. Man, their heels are dug
in and they just I think they look stupid for

(01:48:52):
doing it in the first place.

Speaker 3 (01:48:55):
So what they're doing, I guess for those who who
might have missed it. So the rookie wage scale that
was put in place in twenty eleven, what it did
was it it a couple of things. One is it
made the money for every first round pick, really any rookie.
It made it on a wage scale, right, so it

(01:49:16):
was capped out. You get a certain percentage up increase
every year, so on the money scale that everything's about.
From that perspective, it limited the earning power of rookies.
But what it also did was it created uniform language
to where they just hand you the contracting to sign it, right,
because it used to be and you know this, you

(01:49:38):
guys have all for a while. You know, come this
first day of training camp, there might be like your
tire rookie class not signed yet or first round pickers,
remember not so the kids. They're fighting over bonus structure
and default language and rookie splits, injury splits and all
this stuff. And it got to the point where it
was just too much. So it made it very easy
in streamline. And now it's obviously many years later and

(01:50:04):
teams have changed a little bit of the language in
the contracts, but enough where everyone just signs the contract.
So what they're trying to do to Shamar Stewart is saying, look, man,
if you get suspended for anything, we're avoiding your guarantees.
It sounds like guarantees for all your entire contract, not
just that year. So look like other teams have done
this in the past without any problem, but the Bengals

(01:50:26):
are trying to do it for the first time. To
Stewart and as representatives saying, no, we're not gonna be
the first people, first person player. You do this too
as a bagel because and then the rest of the
Bengals who signed contracts moving forward to have this clause
in there. It's kind of a silly clause, Like think
about it. You could be suspended for many reasons. One
of them is helmet to helmet. It might not even

(01:50:48):
be your fault. It might be a weird play helmet
to helmet suspended. Then your guarantees are avoided for that.
But you're like, so I get why. They're like, no,
we're not doing this. And there's another battle, by the
way happening that not talking.

Speaker 2 (01:51:05):
About very much. No, that's a really interesting second round
the second.

Speaker 3 (01:51:07):
Round pick Filde So again, the rookie wage scale essentially
made first round picks money guaranteed. I actually don't know
if that's written in the contract, because like the NBA
and Major U Baseball, it's not ridden in the contract.
They just it's guaranteed money. It's it's it was added
in to every deal. So first round picks I've had
guaranteed money. This is the first year. Second round picks

(01:51:29):
picked thirty three and thirty four were given guaranteed money.
Right so picked thirty five, thirty six, they're saying they're
there two, I want guaranteed money too. Yeah, there's a
stalemate right now with second round picks. It's not talked
about very much, but Jamar Stewart is because I'll tell
you why it's talking about so much. Because he bashed
the team publicly who just drafted him. It's a really

(01:51:51):
bad look for the Bengals to have a guy that
you need to be good as a rookie and to
be a franchise changing player bashing your team crack before
you even signed a contract.

Speaker 2 (01:52:06):
Jesus, well while you're still havn't signed Trey Hendrickson on
top of that?

Speaker 4 (01:52:10):
Right, this was an interesting Uh, this was really interesting
to read thirty of the remaining thirty six holdouts our
second round draft.

Speaker 3 (01:52:18):
Yeah, it's a guaranteed money thing, That's what it's about.

Speaker 4 (01:52:21):
Yeah, and Tyler Show's situation there living in a car, retiring.
He looks to be the starter off the bat, but
Jeff is a normal thing. Did these draft hold out
is something happening this year?

Speaker 3 (01:52:33):
Right? I mean it's new because the first two picks
of the second round got guaranteed money, well, first time ever.

Speaker 2 (01:52:40):
And it's it's tied to Tyler Shock. That's the main thing.
Because he's the fortieth overall pick. He's insisting on a
fully guaranteed contract. What kind of money? Game one?

Speaker 3 (01:52:49):
What kind of money? Say six million dollars somewhere around
our second round pick? Yeah, just like how much money.
But it's about it's about precedent, right like right, you know,
back to the marriage thing, right, like if you agree
to it to one thing in marriage that's different than
it's been in the past. Your wife's always gonna well,
now it's time we do things. You can do it
one time and so you fold.

Speaker 2 (01:53:10):
That's your job until we're gone from this earth, you
know like that.

Speaker 3 (01:53:14):
Yeah, so it work that way. It uh, that's uh,
that's where we're at with the work contract. So we'll see.
I mean camp obviously a couple of weeks away now
or a month away for some teams. And the Shamar
Stewart thing is it's trying to walk because I hope
he's not the guinea pick. I hope you gets his
money and it's all settled before camp. But it's just
such an unforced error by the Bengals. It is that

(01:53:34):
just just signed the kid man.

Speaker 2 (01:53:36):
It's not smart. Yeah, And that's the thing with the
second rounders. All the second round picks were signed by
this time last year. Yes, and we've got two signed
right now like everybody else holding out trying to get
fully guaranteed contracts as if they play quarterback. You know
like and they don't like. So it's it's an interesting dynamic,

(01:53:58):
it is.

Speaker 3 (01:53:58):
And we'll see how it gets settled.

Speaker 2 (01:54:00):
Yeah, just googled.

Speaker 4 (01:54:01):
I wanted to google with these second round guys. I'm
just interested to know, Like, I just not used to
seeing these kind of hold out like situations here. I
just was googled how much money they were looking for?
How much money they're going to.

Speaker 3 (01:54:12):
Be making anyway, that's a six or seven million.

Speaker 2 (01:54:16):
Yeah. The Bengals, they're like you, guys, I think you know,
if if you crack, you won the argument with your wife,
like I want, but you're sleeping on the couch. Did
you did you really win the argument? You know what
I mean? Like, that's where the Bengals are right now.
They're trying to win the argument and they're still sleeping
on the couch. It's it's just a waste of time,
I think.

Speaker 3 (01:54:35):
Sure.

Speaker 2 (01:54:36):
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zig zag in my final pickovery. I think I'm gonna
go with the trend.

Speaker 4 (01:55:11):
Huh.

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Speaker 3 (01:56:28):
Rapid fire.

Speaker 2 (01:56:30):
Okay, crack, we start with you. What's something you like?

Speaker 4 (01:56:33):
As my old New York friend Steve Summers used to
call them the Metropolitans on fan, let's go with the Mets.
They just came off. They just broke their schneid did
yesterday of one to seven beating the Phillies. Go with
the Mets tonight. As a small underdog. I know everyone's
going to be watching the met game. No one's going
to be watching the basketball game.

Speaker 3 (01:56:54):
You go, agreed, The Metropolitans they were the seven losses
in a row lost something. I like the right number here,
Asia Wilson over twenty three and a half points for
the fever for the Aces against the fever in their game,
that the one Brian's attending.

Speaker 2 (01:57:14):
Later, that's right, I'll be there, maybe a foam finger.
I don't know. It might get crazy. We'll see.

Speaker 7 (01:57:21):
I'm gonna go.

Speaker 2 (01:57:23):
You know, I'm not going to go zig zag here, Crack,
you made an impassioned plea against the zig zag approach,
so I will go anti zigzag. I'll go with the trend. Here,
give me ok C minus the four and a half
in the first half. I do. I like it beyond
zigzag trends. I think he's okay. So he's going to

(01:57:43):
be a handful, uh, to say the least in a
game seven at home, fresh off a game they got
clobbered in. And then, if you're looking for a trend,
here Indiana at OKC in three games in these finals,
rough first halfs. These are the points that Indiana has
scored in the first half of each game on the

(01:58:04):
road forty five, forty one, forty five. Now in the
second half they've been a lot better sixty six sixty
six sixty four. They really crank it up in the
second half, but first half not a whole lot to
write home about. I think the trend continues. I think
OKC is a royal pain in the Boutois first quarter,

(01:58:24):
first half, they start fast, they're aggressive, they're aggressive defensively.
I think it's gonna be hard for the Pacers to score.
So I'm gonna go with OKC minus four and a
half in the first half. Writing the trend crack, huh yeah,
trend is your friend. Every now and then, we got
cracks play the day. Let's do this.

Speaker 1 (01:58:46):
This is the best play of the day.

Speaker 2 (01:58:49):
All right, what is it? Crack?

Speaker 4 (01:58:51):
You know at this time of the show, I always
checked just to make sure the Hall of Fame of
the game, the Hall of Fame game. It looks like
it's Thursday.

Speaker 3 (01:58:58):
July thirty first.

Speaker 4 (01:59:00):
Sorry, I just can't wait for this NFL here, So
we have five weeks away for that. But let's in
the meantime, I'm gonna give you a little something to bet
at your game today. Caitlyn Clark over fourteen and a
half rebounds and assist. The Aces should trap and double
her all game forced her to pass a great passing

(01:59:21):
matchup for her, So I know it almost even sounds
a little like common sense. So yeah, but anyway, yeah,
let's go over rebounds assist by Caitlin Clark. I have
a good time at the game. Guys that's watching us
and listening. Just don't go so crazy tonight. I know,
NBA game step, everyone's got to have a bet on
the side, the total action, crazy live wagering. Just take

(01:59:45):
it easy. Lots of more decisions to be made here
NFL right around the corner.

Speaker 2 (01:59:50):
Love that, Yeah, I love that play. By the way, crrack,
that makes a lot of sense. I got to enter
that in for sure. By the way, real fast rapid
fire before we go, what score are you anticipating tonight?
I'll go okay, see like, yeah, you go low as well? Okay,
look to the under. Maybe I'll parlay it with Caitlin Clark.
What do you think about it?

Speaker 5 (02:00:10):
There?

Speaker 3 (02:00:11):
All the parlays for crack

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