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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
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Speaker 3 (00:25):
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
It all down. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Look, this is Fox Sports Radios Countdown to Kickoff, presented
by Bett emsg app No, we're live from your tailgame.
Here's Brian Nook, former Penn State All American, Rich Hornberger,
and FSR betting analyst Jared Smith.

Speaker 4 (00:47):
Oh oh, what is going on over here? Welcome in.
Got a whole full slate of college football action to
get through. A little World Series action as well. Jared,
Good morning to you, you Rich, everything good in you guys.

Speaker 5 (01:02):
World.

Speaker 6 (01:03):
Here coming to you guys live from Fresno. We got
a twelve thirty kick West Coast time between San Diego
State and Fresno State, two five and one football teams.
Gonna see who's tougher out there. It's always a battle.
This is gonna be the last time they meet as
Mountain West foes before they joined the PAC twelve together

(01:25):
in a year's time. So this is this is a
little bit of history in the making, this this afternoon
the Valley.

Speaker 5 (01:33):
Every time I think Fresno, I think of think of
the car Brothers.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:39):
With the V on the back of the helmet, green V.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:43):
I know it well.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
I did radio there for almost three years rich, so
I know Fresne very well. I know, Uh, Black of Stone,
I don't know if you're that deep in the game
where Black of Stone, I don't know Avenue I should
know the Avenue of I'm like like bragging, like you
don't know Blackstone, Old Avenue Bull, I'm not sure which one.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
I'll tell you what they're.

Speaker 6 (02:04):
Every city I'm in I wander around, and Fresno is
the one where I wandered into the strangest places. I
will say this, like, uh, one time I wandered into
I guess what ended up being one of the more
famous try Tip sandwich shops.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
Oh yes, yes, like the smoke shop or something like that. Yeah,
And I had no idea that they were even known
for that. And I'm sitting there like, and I said
to somebody at the stadium the next day, I'm like,
I'm like, you know what.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
I had yesterday? That was really good. Was a try
tip sandwich of all things. And the guys were laughing
at me and they're like yeah yeah. They're almost like yeah,
you idiot, Like that's what we do here. Yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
Or maybe it's a dog house grill. I forget, but
oh that's it, talk house grill, that's it.

Speaker 5 (02:50):
That's it's Listeners right now are loving this, you know,
giant dumbs up. Shout out Fresno.

Speaker 7 (02:58):
I'll tell you, I love you.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
I'll tell you a quick story that's funny because I
was on the way to work. It might have been
on it was on Shaw Shaw Avenue, but that's like
the main one. And of course I'm just blasting my
Lamb of God music, you know, and this guy pulls
up to me and he's pointing down at my back tire.
He's just's pointing down and I just give him the
thumbs up, like yeah, man, sounds good. And I got

(03:21):
to wear a guy at a flat tire, so I
always thought that was funny. This guy's like must be
the most laden back guy ever. He's just riding around
on a flat tire. It doesn't even care. But I
don't know. Good days in the five five to nine.
There it is there, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 (03:36):
So the Blue Jays. Huh.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
Before we get to all the college football action, the
Blue Jays smacked around the Dodgers. I can't believe I'm
even saying this right now. They went eleven to four.
They scored nine runs in one inning. And that's the
key to beating the Dodgers, right get past that brilliant
starting pitching and get into that bullpen. That's exactly what
they did last night. I guess the question right now

(03:59):
is do you buy the Blue Jays as a legitimate
threat to not only win the World Series, but would
you back them to do so at this stage?

Speaker 6 (04:09):
I think if if you know what, yes, I'm gonna
answer your first question first, Yes, I think they are
legitimate contender.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
It's going to take a lot more of that, though, you.

Speaker 6 (04:21):
Know, Look the Blue Jays on blake'snell day, by the way,
who's no slouch.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
That's a heck of a pitcher.

Speaker 6 (04:27):
We're able to knock him around, like you said, get
into relief and then have that a nine run inning,
which included, by the way, speaking of a historic moment,
the first ever pinch slam, the first ever grand slam
off of a pinch hitter. It was everything worked, I

(04:50):
guess is what you could say about that game, insummation.
Is it going to be like that every time? Obviously not?
And do the Dodgers have some whole their roster?

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (05:01):
You just pointed out the biggest one, and it's when
you get beyond their their starting pitcher. I still think
they're tough out. But if you're if you're a betting man,
I mean, yeah, it might be time to buy a
little Blue Jays stock. I don't know if it's worth
more than a sprinkle at this point if you're jumping
on the bandwagon.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
But that was a stunning performance.

Speaker 5 (05:24):
Yeah, I mean I think it's a it's a worthy
question because everyone's waking up today and now it's a
pick them basically who's gonna win the World Series? So
there's your answer for you know, when you play golf
with your buddy and he's much better than you. How
many strokes per hole do I need to give you?
The answer is one? And now we're back to even.
So we give the Blue Jays a game, And now

(05:47):
does the market thinks anyone can win this thing? It's
fifty to fifty, But that just shows you how good
the Dodgers are is you had to give the Blue
Jays a game when they already have home field in
the series. You had to give them a free be
a mulligan. And now we can kind of reset and say,
all right, now, Toronto's live. That's why I think the

(06:08):
Dodgers end up winning this series because at the end
of the day, when you stretch this thing out, and
here's what Toronto might have done last night, Toronto might
have made this a series. Right we thought it was
gonna be Dodgers in five, maybe Dodgers and six. Now
it looks like a long series. It looks like a
series where la better strap up and strap in because

(06:31):
this is this is gonna be a fight. I think
Toronto has a little bit of that it factor that
definitely scares me. But the Dodgers roster is so good. Guys,
Like when we get and that's when we get later
in the series, I think that's when it'll kind of
become clear that the Dodgers are deeper. But right now,

(06:53):
after one game and after what Toronto did last night,
there's gonna be a lot of people that are gonna
jump on that train for sure.

Speaker 4 (06:59):
YEA of funny because before the great comeback, my question
was are the Dodgers good or bad for baseball?

Speaker 2 (07:06):
You know?

Speaker 4 (07:07):
And that's completely been shifted because they get blown out
in Game one. Just think if they won Game one
eleven to four and I asked you that same question,
right that it completely changes how you probably feel about it.
But even after Game one, listen, I think they're more
good than bad for baseball. Is basically what it is.
Because the Dodgers, especially what they've done winning it all

(07:30):
last season, their resume before Game one last night, they're
nine to one in the playoffs. They're not even hitting
you know what I mean. That's amazing what they've been
able to do. So they are more than live to
still come back and win this series. But for one game,
hats off to the Blue Jays.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Man.

Speaker 7 (07:46):
That was crazy. And that's the thing.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
When they were down three to two in the ALCS,
I was telling Bo Benson, Dodgers guy and the crew,
I'm like, man, if the Dodgers face the Blue Jays
with that offense, they could get to the starting pitching,
get into that bullpen, could be an interesting series, and
at least through one game, that's what we have we'll
see if the Blue Jays bats can still stay alive. Hey,

(08:09):
how about this random gambling accusations?

Speaker 5 (08:12):
What a story?

Speaker 7 (08:14):
What a story here.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
So we've got Terry Rogier, current NBA player, Chauncey Billups,
current head coach of the Portland Trailblazers, and we've got
Damon Jones, who's an assistant coach right now in the NBA.

Speaker 7 (08:28):
They've all been arrested.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
They're all part of this whole like gambling crackdown thing
going on by the feds. The FBI has been involved
in this for years and so they're trying to crack
down on. There might have been a little bit of
shadiness going on with Terry Rogier saying, ah, man, my
foot hurts while he was telling all these gamblers, Yeah,
I bet the under hammer the under might be a little.

Speaker 7 (08:52):
Bit of an issue right there.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
And then Chauncey Billups in this like Casino Royal, like
double seven type of hard game going on. I don't know,
odd job was at the table as well as as
eleven unbelievable, right, we got like X ray vision, we
got special glasses. They're completely stealing money from these wealthy fish.

(09:16):
What do you guys make of this whole thing as
it stands right now, well.

Speaker 6 (09:20):
Wealthy fish and also professional poker players, because I saw
an interview with a pro and I'm not really in
that world, and so I don't know the name, so
forgive me, but it was from twenty twenty three.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
This interview was being taped.

Speaker 6 (09:37):
And this professional poker player was talking about how that
game was known because some of his buddies in the
professional poker playing world went to the La version and
when it moved out to Vegas. He was like, yeah,
that's a rigged game. And he was like, and it
was kind of a well known thing amongst pros that
that's a game you stay away from because the first round,

(10:00):
all these pros were getting mopped up with these lucky hands,
like guys were going all in on hands that you
absolutely don't play based off of what the flop looked like,
you know, and then the river card comes out and
you have these guys going against like real pros who
have a top hand considering what's been laid out in

(10:24):
a hold them game, and and they're they're getting absolutely worked.
And so he was like, yeah, he was like, we
we knew it was a job, and then somebody asked
them the question, well, hey, why didn't you report it.
He's like, yeah, that that's not really how life works.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
He was like, you can.

Speaker 6 (10:43):
He was like, but if you're wrong, or if these
people have buddies, which they often do in high places,
you could destroy your credibility. And you just have to
understand that. Man, you gotta you gotta be really right,
and if you're even the slightest bit hesitant, then you

(11:06):
stay away.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
And it's it's.

Speaker 6 (11:08):
An interesting thing getting back to the actual scandal with
Rosier and Billups and everybody who's been involved in this.
You know what, it's a cautionary tale to athletes because
I'm sure these guys weren't the masterminds behind this plot.
I'm sure were people that they became in contact with
over the course of their careers, and it may have

(11:29):
been like it is many times because somebody had something
on somebody, you know. So this is the reason why
young professional athletes need to be so careful what they
do with their free time.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Stay out of the strip clubs, you know, be careful.

Speaker 6 (11:44):
Especially no, I'm serious, if you're a married man, you don't.
You don't transgress because all It takes is one person
to have a video of you doing something you're not
supposed to be doing, having.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
A little bit of whatever it.

Speaker 6 (12:00):
Is that can blow up your personal life, and all
of a sudden, they gotcha, and they can pull that
string whenever they want to. And that's what I think
leads to a lot of these issues with gambling, because
people say all the time, like, why on earth would
you risk tens of millions of dollars that you're earning.
You're an NBA champion or you've played for championship teams.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
How could you do this?

Speaker 6 (12:22):
I'll tell you how, because what if somebody has something
on you so damning that you will do anything to keep.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
That secret hidden. That's how. And that's what these people do.
They're criminals.

Speaker 6 (12:34):
They're criminals, so they will come after you and they
will find a way to destroy your life unless you
run an a legal poker game. And look, that's my
best guess. We'll see what the investigation uncovers. But young athletes,
if you're listening, hey, look the world of the nil
has opened this up to college as well.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
You gotta be careful who you associate yourself with.

Speaker 5 (12:55):
Yeah, and obviously this is a gambling show. So we're
not gonna come on here and say gambling's bad. Nobody's
gamble like I think, And that's the biggest thing. So,
for example, I was asked to do a segment on
ABC News yesterday because of this, Like that's how deep
this rabbit hole goes, Like national media is now paying

(13:18):
attention to gambling on a level that has never been
paid attention to before this has been and the questions
that I'm getting, it's obvious that they don't really know
what this is about. Because the questions I got yesterday
was has this been going on for years? Like yes,
Like this is not a groundbreaking thing that is just

(13:42):
now happening over the last few years because gambling has
been legalized. That is the common misconception about this story.
Oh well, I'm seeing all of these ads for sportsbooks,
every commercial. That must be why this is happening.

Speaker 7 (13:57):
No, it's not.

Speaker 5 (13:59):
The mob is going to do mob things. Bad actors
are going to do bad actor things, regardless if gambling
is legalized in this country or not. So we need
to get away from the well now, we have to
just put gambling back back in the box. Right, We
have to put the toothpaste back in the tube. Yeah, good,
good luck with that. Every time someone gets a DUI.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
In this country.

Speaker 5 (14:20):
Are we talking about, you know, eliminating alcohol and and
you know, criminalizing it again. No, we've been down that
road before. It doesn't work, the Rosier stuff. So here's
what interests me about the Rozier stuff, Brian to kind
of tie this back up to a bow. The NBA
investigated him the entire year and cleared him, right, and
the FBI said not so fast, my friend. That's the

(14:43):
part about this story that I want to know more about.
I feel like I have a pretty good grasp with
a poker thing. This happens a lot in the poker world.
It just so happens that they involved a couple of
high profile people. But let's be honest, rig poker games,
underground poker games, they've been going on forever, often new there.
The part that scares me is the NBA investigated Terry

(15:05):
Rozier and said you're good, bud, and they let him
play again yep. And then the FBI did their investigation,
or I guess continued their investigation, and now we get
the end result of it. That's the part that I
want to know more about that. I think we need
to Why did the NBA feel like everything was hunky dory?

(15:25):
What did they not find? What were they unable to find?
Or worst case scenario, what did they find and sweep
under the rug? Right, that's the part I think that's
intriguing with this case as we move forward.

Speaker 7 (15:37):
Absolutely it is.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
And like you said, it was twenty twenty three and
they did their quote unquote investigation and they were basically like,
it's gonna go. We didn't see anything improper, so we're
fine here. Thumbs up, Terry Rogier. Now you get this
second wave of the FEDS saying yeah, you might want
to look a little bit deeper. And now the NBA
is like, I mean, yes, right, the FEDS are just

(16:07):
like yeah, you know are the NBA is like, well,
we don't have we don't have wire taps, you know,
we don't have like we can't.

Speaker 5 (16:14):
Write organization, can't figure out where to get wire topped.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
We can't do the plea bargain thing, like there are
things that we're up against over here. It's like, wow,
you got okay, all right, you guys look right now
on top of.

Speaker 8 (16:27):
The mafia, didn't didn't like didn't Sorry, I'm completely blanking
on his name, the former NBA commissioner. Uh didn't he
hire like former like investigators and mafia guys, Like there
was always the rumors about him. It was like he
had a lot of shady New York guys working for him.
He could find this. That was the Carmelo Anthony stories,

(16:49):
like we know who you're hanging out with, we know
where you're going at night, we know what trouble you're
getting into. And now you're telling me the NBA can't
find this stuff out.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
Right now, They're just like, whoa way, you have all
these disadvantage.

Speaker 7 (17:01):
You're the NBA. You kidding me?

Speaker 4 (17:03):
You can't do a better job than what you did.
They just looking competent right now, or like you said, Jared,
really shady. If that's the other thing that I thought
was funny, And we'll move it back to college football
here shortly. But Terry Rozier's lawyer said that his client
is not a gambler. And I saw that, and I'm like,

(17:24):
that is a really bad defense, you know what I mean, Like,
think about that. You don't have to be a gambler
to do something that's completely wrong, like like throw a game,
like to tell all these gamblers like, yo, just bet
the under I'll take care of it. And then ten
minutes into a game he's like, oh, my foot is

(17:45):
killing me. I can't go anymore. And the other that's
not gambling. There's nothing gambling about that.

Speaker 7 (17:49):
That's what I mean.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
That's like, you know, if the lawyer said my client
is not a thief and did not take part in
this robbery, if he gave all details of how the
robbers pulled off the heist, right like, he gave all
that information, it doesn't matter. If he isn't a robber,
if he's not a thief himself, it does not matter.

(18:11):
So that that defense of Terry Rozier is not a
gambler is one of the dumbest defenses that that almost
tells me like, wow, he's guilty.

Speaker 7 (18:18):
If that's the best you can come up with.

Speaker 4 (18:20):
He's not a gambler, he just you know, maybe he
gave all this information to gamblers.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
But what's wrong.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
No, no, dude, that's that's not gonna fly. But that's
where we're at with this whole thing.

Speaker 6 (18:30):
Yeah, it's it's you're gonna hear a lot of things
that to maybe the novice or the person who's uninformed,
like Jared. You point out perfectly that the line of
questioning you received when you're on ABC was very What
really revealed to you that so little is known about this,

(18:51):
and I think that's the majority of Americans. I think
that a lot of people have gotten a really elementary
understanding of how sports betting works, how gambling works. I
think a lot of people still watch sports as fans.
I think that that tide is shifting. I think maybe
in the next decade or two, we'll see a lot

(19:12):
more of sports betting's influence on the world's sports. And
I think that potentially it'll be some because people will
be interested in it and it'll become more popularized. I
think some because more scandals will come out. I don't
think gambling is the problem, though. I do think it's
bad actors because guess what they sell butcher knives, and

(19:34):
they are very useful tools. They're used in the kitchens
across America. Yeah, bad things can happen with them. That
doesn't mean you outlawed all knives. We need them. Now
do we necessarily need gambling as a tool, but we
need entertainment and there are plenty of things to entertain
yourself that you could get in trouble with that we

(19:54):
don't immediately need jerk to hey, this needs to be
outlawed as a result. But getting back to Rose in
the defense, I think what they're doing, Brian, it's there.
They're going to spotlight all the things Terry isn't because
they know how many things that are going to be
brought from the prosecution side saying that he is or was.

(20:16):
And so if you can hang your hat on hey,
one thing, we know for sure you could check Terry
up and down. He didn't place any bets. I mean
that that'll that could be a very strong truth for them,
and amongst a jury of your peers should go that far.
If this does end up becoming a trial, that can
be something they can stand on and has been true

(20:36):
from day one all the way until you know, day
four hundred of the proceedings, because it's an important fact
to the defense.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
I don't know where this goes from here, but I
can tell you it is a.

Speaker 6 (20:49):
Dark blemish on an already kind of seed reputation of
the NBA. They've had many other scandals, inarguably the most
famous basketball player who's ever lived. Michael Jordan. I mean
he even had you know, there were there were questions
about his integrity over the course of his career. During

(21:11):
Colin on our network, he was talking about how in
I forget which year it was one of the NBA finals.
The round before that, when he was playing in New York,
he was in in Atlantic City casino, and there was
all this hubbub about Jordan and Ezia Gambler. And look,
this has been as much a part of the NBA
as it has in the past as it is now.

(21:34):
It's unfortunately not going anywhere. When you have a bunch
of young people getting having access to an incredible amount
of money over a very short amount of time, bad
things can and will happen. You got to put more
guardrails in place to help these players. And obviously they
need to do a better job of keeping their nose
clean and staying out of trouble during their careers or afterward.

(21:57):
For in, you know, in the instance of Chauncey billups.

Speaker 7 (22:00):
Right, we're often running.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
We got Rich Hoornberger, Penn State All American, Jared Smith
FSR betting analyst soon to be ABC News correspondent, I'm bright.

Speaker 7 (22:10):
Pretty cool moment for my career.

Speaker 5 (22:11):
I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Yeah yeah, heay.

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Missouri in action today. Miszoo going up against the number

(24:12):
ten Vanderbilt combodoors hunt. Is that not roll off the
tongue right there? Vandy is a top ten team both
six and one squads and If you look at Missouri,
the first thing I think of is their running back
Amad Hardy.

Speaker 7 (24:24):
He's been held in check the last two weeks.

Speaker 4 (24:27):
He was held in check two weeks ago against Alabama
when Missouri lost. He was held in check last week
against Auburn when Missouri barely won in overtime. So that
is job number one, I feel like for Miszoo, I
think that's the engine of their offense. You could argue
that's the engine of their team a modd. Hardy is
a stud and when he's held in check, you can

(24:48):
see how it just blogs down the entire offense. Vanderbilt
not great against the rush. They're sixty second in yards
allowed per carry, so I'm expecting Hardy to eat a
lot more than he has the last two games. That's
huge for Missouri to get their offense jump started here.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yeah, there's no question about it.

Speaker 6 (25:06):
Vandy needs to find a way against this Missouri run game,
which is really, I mean potentially the game breaker.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
And I mean it because.

Speaker 6 (25:15):
Every fifth play statistically when they run the football is
an explosive, which means that on the ground the Tigers
are gaining ten yards or more. It's an impressive outside
zone run game. That's that's really been most effective for them.
And what I mean by that is they're going to
stretch the field to one side and out of the backfield.

(25:38):
Hardy is going to put his foot in the ground
and he's going to go north south on you at
some point and that's either going to be playside or
he's going to find a cutback lean somewhere and he's
going to get it motoring upfield. The other thing about Missouri,
and we'll get to Vandy in a second here, is
their defense is much improved. This is arguably the best

(26:01):
defense that they fielded in a while. And if you
look at some of the things that they've done, they
create a tremendous amount of havoc for posing offenses, which
reduces the number of quality drives. And considering they have
such an impressive run game, they can play a little
keep away, which means they can shorten games. They can

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control the clock a little bit, and that really does
bode well for their offense. Also, they're really good tacklers,
which is an overlooked stat in football altogether, whether you're
watching the professional game or the college game. When they
wrap up, they bring you down, which it limits the
potential for explosives against this Missouri Tigers defense. So yeah,

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I mean they specifically offensively, they pose a great threat
to Vanderbilt, but defense, they're sneaky good on defense in
the SEC this year.

Speaker 5 (26:53):
Yeah, I'll be honest, this is a really, really fun game.
I think the winner of this game is going to
make the collegeable playoff. Guys, how about that Bandy wins
this game in their favor to win the game. I
had him in my rankings this week, and I change,
you know, I adjust week to week based off of
kind of the flow and how things are moving. But
this week they were the last team in my field

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in Jared's bracketology. But I think we do have to
give both of these teams some credit. I think both
of these teams have not necessarily overachieved the expectations because
we're still you know, when we're not there yet. The
wheels could fall off in the SEC very quickly. But
I think both of these teams deserve the attention this week,

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right like game days at Vandy, I think very very
well deserving for this Vanderbilt program. They've really turned things
around over the last couple of years, So I love
what Brian said about Amatt Hardy because he's kind of
been lying in the weeds over the last couple of weeks.
Now he's faced some really tough defenses. But this Vandy
defense on paper looks like a team that can stop

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the run. But when you actually dive into who they've
played in that stretch, South Carolina one hundred and thirty
second in rushing success, right, they had a big lead
in that game, So they're not running Georgia State ninety
first in rushing success right, so they had a big
lead in that game. Georgia State's not running it on Vandy.
Utah State eighty ninth, big lead, not running it. Bama

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one hundred and twenty seventh, not a great running team
this year. Jam Miller got hurt midway through the game,
and it wasn't a running game for them. It was
more of a Ty Simpson game, who had a really
good game with his arm, especially on third and fourth down.
And then last week against LSU one hundred and twenty
ninth in rushing success right, the arguably the worst team
they faced in this stretch in terms of trying to

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establish the run and make you hurt. That's where I
think Missouri's really going to have a time here. I
think Ahmad Hardy in this run game with Prebulah and
the Reid option, I think that's where Missouri has an edge.
These teams are mirror images of each other, right. They
both have mobile quarterbacks, They're both kind of feisty. I
like both coaches. But I think the edge here is

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Vandy's defense where Missouri's defense. I know Missouri's defense, pecially
the front seven, is absolutely loaded, but the Vandy defense,
I think is a little susceptible to the run. And
I think that's why Missouri. Right now, the Mountain lines
are a flat three. It's gone all the way to
plus three at Missou. I think that's a bet for me. Guys.
I think Miszoo comes in here and I think they
run the ball. I think the Hardy props are in play,

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and I would not be surprised if they leave Nashville
with a win.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
Yeah, should be a good one. I'm excited for it.
How about BYU at Iowa State. I love when these
lines get stinky like this. So BYU is seven to zero,
just outside the top ten. They're the eleventh ranked team
in the nation against Iowa State Iowa States five and
two and Iowa State is a two and a half
point favorite, right there, how about that? And I'll tell

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you what. I'm trying to be as objective as possible,
but this BYU team has cost me some freaking money
this year.

Speaker 5 (29:55):
My guy Arizona last week was so bad.

Speaker 4 (29:57):
Oh, the Arizona game was discussed thing, and I'll take
you back. This is when you're like, there is a
there's a help number here for you know, you know,
there's one eight hundred gambler.

Speaker 5 (30:08):
You might give it another BYU.

Speaker 7 (30:09):
But I had, yeah, right.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
I had.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
I had BYU against Stanford, right, I'm like, man, Stanford
is just trash at the beginning of the year.

Speaker 7 (30:17):
Especially.

Speaker 4 (30:18):
I'm gonna take BYU minus six and a half in
the first quarter. Okay, and forgive me if I've told
you this story. You can stop me if I have.
But so BYU goes right down, they score a touchdown,
and they're like, you.

Speaker 7 (30:30):
Know what, we're feeling a little bit.

Speaker 4 (30:31):
Like the Oregon Ducks here today. Let's go for two,
and let's do it in the swinging gate, you know,
And they try to run it up the middle, stuffed,
they don't get the extra point I need for my
first quarter, bet. But they get an interception and I'm like,
all right, we're in field goal range already. Just incomplete
passes are our friends. We only have a little bit
more than two minutes to go something like that. And

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you know, they they run a very safe passing play.
Completion goes nowhere. They run it and I'm like, I
need an incompletion. They complete it for almost no yards,
clock keeps running. They could kick the field goal and
they're like, why should we do it at the end
of the first quarter. We can do it the first
play of the second quarter. It's exactly what happened. That's
how I lost my first quarter bet. Ah byu Is

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they've hammered me left and right this season. They're he
got them losing today.

Speaker 5 (31:20):
Huh yeah, they're losing today.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
The line says, so Brian, they've been it's dagging for
a loss man they have and it just hasn't happened.

Speaker 7 (31:27):
Today could be the day. It's a great spot.

Speaker 4 (31:29):
Iowa State, they're off a by you know, BYU another
road game here, and uh, I'll tell you what, Iowa
State has no pass rush whatsoever. But and bear Bachmeyers
played pretty well, but he wears number forty seven and
he's a running, kind of gritty quarterback. Yeah, they got
to lose at some point, right, it's probably today, We'll see.

Speaker 6 (31:49):
I will say that byu, part of the run this
season has been backed by one of the best offensives
they've been able to assemble in many years.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (32:01):
Like, and I'm talking about Johnny's and Joe's Like you know,
you you look at the personnel and Bear Bachmeier anchors
it there as quarterback.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
They're they're they're a talented team.

Speaker 6 (32:13):
And then defensively, you know, there there are certain things
that they do well, but they're not very good against
the pass. And it's specifically for what you you pointed out.
They're their their coverage and and some of that pass
rush is completely depleted. Iowa State they're gonna be They're

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gonna be uh coming off that bye week, and overall
their numbers this season they're pretty They're pretty paltry in
pass rush as well.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (32:43):
There, we we were talking about Missouri being a good
tackling team. The Cyclones are not. This is the type
of team where you're gonna see opportunities for yards after catch,
yards after contact, and their offense does something weird. It
doesn't look very it makes your eyes hurt. Considering that

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they're a little bit throwback. They spend a lot of
time in heavy personnel, Like you see extra linemens sometimes
come on the field. You'll see biggs on the field,
You'll see extra tight ends on the field. It's it's
not something that's traditionally done anymore, and so it's it's
very throwback. But yeah, I mean, if there's a spot
for BYU to lose this season, they've sort of been

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playing with fire all season long, how about a trip
to Ames, Iowa for the first time since the seventies.
Like this is a really unique matchup for the Koogs
that they I'm curious this line stinks And Jared, I'm
kind of leaning your way on this one.

Speaker 5 (33:47):
Yeah, you just got to look at the market here now.
To be fair, I have not watched until they're taking
money from me against Arizona and in other spots like
Worbing no mention, I have not watched a ton of
BYU this year. I haven't watched a ton of Iowa
State this year. But when the market is telling you something,
you have to understand that you're not as smart as
the market. Don't try to outsmart the market. It's not

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a good idea. You might win once in a while,
but over the long haul, you're gonna lose. And so
I just tend to default. When I see a number
like this, I look at the trend and I say,
since nineteen eighty nine, when a seven to zero team
or better undefeated is a road underdog against an unranked team,
the unranked home favorites are twenty four and six straight up.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (34:36):
Again, that's the market telling you who the better team
is here. It's Iowa State. Does that mean Iowa State
it's gonna win?

Speaker 10 (34:43):
No?

Speaker 5 (34:44):
Again, six of those teams have lost in that thirty
game sample, but more often than not, the better team
in terms of where the market perceives them, tends to
win these games.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
You know what's crazy is uh? And I'm with you, Jared,
I agree. But every now and then there's a fly
in the ointment, if you will and think back to
it was just last week, right, we had this same
scenario with Georgia Tech undefeated. They weren't seven to zero,
but they were undefeated, and you had Duke getting points,

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and Duke has all these statistical advantages, right, and they're
going in for the first score of the game and
they fumbled, Georgia Tech takes it like ninety five yards
for a touchdown, and somehow, some way, Georgia Tech wins
the game.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
You know.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
So I'm with you, right, like, there are some stinky
lines and you're like, wow, it's telling you duke today.
And then the game plays out and you're like, well,
the game told us Georgia Tech, you know. So we'll
see what happens with BYU. Could be a similar situation,
but I'm excited for that one.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
All right.

Speaker 4 (35:46):
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Speaker 7 (36:28):
Alright, let's do this.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
Check this out our late letter, all right.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
Which have one selection for you. We pull it together
for a greater payout. Jared, we start with you. What's
something you.

Speaker 5 (36:41):
Like we're hitting this today? Guys, I already Actually, to
be fair, I don't know yet because I haven't gotten
fried yet. But based on the first two legs from
Rich and I that I have in my inbox right now.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
It'd be fun if you get it right now and
you're like, oh gosh, I don't think we're hitting this.

Speaker 5 (36:56):
You're gonna have to surprise me. Be no, but I'm
excited about this for it is Missouri on the money
line at Vandy. Be kind of hinted at this in
the last segment, right, you're getting the full three. I
would bet Missouri plus three for sure, but the money
line here plus one thirty I think is also worth
a sprinkle, because, let's be honest, if Missouri covers the
three odds are. They're probably gonna win the game unless

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they love by one or two, which doesn't happen a
whole lot in college football. How good is this Vandy
run defense? I know Missouri's defense is damn good. Zion Young,
dam and Wilson, Chris mcclon, like, these are dudes up
front for this Missouri team. I think it's gonna be
a difficult day for Diego Pavia. I love this Vandy team.
I think Vandy is one of the most fun teams
in college football, and I hope they make the College

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Football Playoff. But this feels like a trap game. They're
not used to being the favorite now. This is the
second consecutive week they are a favorite in the SEC
game days in Town. Nick Saban's picking Vandy like there's
a lot of pressure on this team, and I think
Missouri might be a little more buttoned up on the
defensive side. And when you're on the road in the SEC,

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defense does win. So I will take the Tigers to
beat the doors in Nashville today.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
All right.

Speaker 6 (38:07):
I have LSU on the money line. They are dogs.
This line has flipped obviously. They opened his favorites and
they've been fed all the way down. I'm still on
LSU side. I think this season has gone sideways for them,
and much like the rest of the college football world,
I don't think this game between LSU and Texas A
and M is immune to the insanity that we've seen.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
So I could very.

Speaker 6 (38:31):
Easily see LSU get well against A and M, where defensively,
a lot of what LSU shuts down matches up specifically
well against this A and M offense. You have Reed
who's accumulated the majority of his rushing yards scrambling. Well,
it's going against an LSU pass rush that's pretty dang good,
one of the top groups in the nation.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
A and M's pretty good.

Speaker 6 (38:55):
I've thrown those quick slants and those screens to wide receivers. Well,
guess what LSU is really good at covering the quick
slant and the screen pass to the receivers. So I
feel like, offensively, you've got a big arm quarterback out
of LSU. The Tigers have a great chance to defend
their home court here.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
I like the Tigers to down the money line.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
You know, it's funny, It's not a good omen for
my entry here to the parlay bladder because I like
Haines King, the Georgia Tech quarterback. I like under seventy
six and a half rushing yards. The reasoning I'll get
to the bad Omen in a second. The reasoning is
he's banged up, he's not healthy. Right now, he's cutting
his way through it. They're playing Syracuse today. Georgia Tech

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is a healthy favorite, about seventeen and a half points.

Speaker 7 (39:40):
They're favored by so.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
What they're what Georgia Tech wants to do is escape
with the win and keep Haynes King upright and healthy.
And so that's a recipe for him not getting as
many carries as he typically does. And one of the
comfortable wins that they had earlier this year, Georgia Tech
beat Temple by a lot and Haines King only had eight.

Speaker 7 (40:01):
Rushes for fifteen yards.

Speaker 4 (40:03):
You know, it's weird when you look at his game
by game, you're like, holy cow, one hundred yards one
hundred yikes. I don't know if I want to take
under seventy six and a half. I just think in
this spot they're going to want to not rely on
his running ability as much as they typically do. I
do like under seventy six and a half. The bad
Omen was I accidentally sent a screenshot to Jared of

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over seventy six and a half. Yeah, you believe in
bad omens. That's not a good one. But I think
the handicap makes sense. Give me the under on Haines
King right there.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
I like it.

Speaker 5 (40:34):
And when you put this into the bed MGM parlay
machine and you add in my twenty five percent odds
boost that all of you should be getting today because
it's a college for ball Saturday, I've got plus ten
fifty seven, almost eleven to one on this parlay.

Speaker 4 (40:47):
There you go nice. Once I'll be yelling sack him,
you know, instead of.

Speaker 7 (40:52):
Throw it, just throw it, throw it anywhere. Sack him.
That gives us a good boost. Oh what is going on?
Welcome in here.

Speaker 4 (40:59):
We are two hours away from kickoff over here. The
nine am early Pacific time kicks. I should say noon eastern, right,
it's big noon kickoff. It's not big nine am kickoff?

Speaker 10 (41:14):
Right.

Speaker 5 (41:14):
Yeah, it doesn't have the same ring too.

Speaker 4 (41:15):
It doesn't have the same ring to it. We'll get
to the previews here in a second. Have we got
a little bit too far with a certain head coach.
We'll get to that here momentarily. Hey, throughout the entire
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and so much more. All Right, we've got Texas A

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and M going to Death Valley taking on LSU Night game.
Gonna be a great scene. Texas A and M road
favorites by two and a half points. Do you guys
are because there are so many layers to this game,
but one of the top ones is man Brian Kelly's
on the hot seat. Do you think that that Brian

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Kelly is in real jeopardy of getting fired this year?
I mean like getting fired because I don't I don't
see that. But they've dropped a couple of games, they
drop another one. You know, it goes the seat gets hotter,
But to the point where he actually gets fired.

Speaker 7 (42:16):
I got to see it to believe it.

Speaker 6 (42:18):
I'm I understand what you're saying, but I almost jumped
on you and said yes before you finish this statement. Yeah,
because college football these days is such a reactionary, knee
jerk snap reaction reality for these head coaches and players frankly,
but mostly these head coaches who are really going to
be held to account for poor play that like at

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no other time in my life, our lives watching college football,
do I think there's any stability at head coach. I mean,
we saw James Franklin at Penn State, an institution in
college football, drop three games in a row and get fired.
I mean, this was a team that was top ranked
in the nation entering the season. Before that three game skid,

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he was what number six in the country, was a
number two in the I forget exactly where they were
before the Oregon game, but that was a steep fall
out of the AP and coaches poll, and then all
of a sudden he's looking for a job and probably
in media so that he can still collect from Penn State. Look,
the point is this, I think everybody is at risk.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
Now. Do I think LSU is going to lose tonight? No?
I don't.

Speaker 6 (43:30):
That's the reason why I added them on the money
line as dogs to the parlay platter, because I really
do feel that when desperation enters the fold, and you're
talking about a long tenured coach who has figured things
out in.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
The past, especially in spots like this.

Speaker 6 (43:45):
I've got some belief that Brian Kelly and his crew
are going to find a way against Texas A and M,
especially at home, especially consecutive weeks on the road for
A and M. The Aggies they have some things that
really work for them, but specifically see some of those
things run into some issues where LSU does a good
job defending against those things, and we could get into

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the details of that more, but just hovering around the
question about head coaching stability, there is none, Brian, there
is none anymore so as much as I believe in
the Tigers tonight, if they lose, it's potential that Brian
Kelly could be on the path to losing his job.

Speaker 5 (44:24):
I'm a little more neutral on that. I think it
has to be like the Penn State situation. You have
to keep, you know, in perspective. They lost back to
back weeks as a third three touchdown plus favorite.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
It's also true, yeah it's a pick.

Speaker 5 (44:38):
Them this week basically right like it's plus two and
a half. So now if they lose by forty maybe
it's a different argument. But LSU had a little bit
of like I think when I watch LSU, I feel
like they're a much better team on paper than they
are in reality. I think a lot of that's injury.
I think a lot of that circumstance. I think none

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of that is Brian Kelly's fault. I think they're dealing
with a lot of let's call it inconsistency. On offense.
They just refused like they're a good running team that
refuses to run the ball. I don't understand it. And
when Garrett Nesmeyer is not pushing it downfield, which he
hasn't done this year, he is one for sixteen on
throws twenty five or more yards downfield. I mean that's

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he was supposed to be a Heisman candidate coming into
the year. So I need to see a little more
balance from LSU. I need to see a little more verticality,
and I want to get their running game going. And
I think both of those things are possible tonight against
an A and M defense. Go look at A and
m's two road games this year. Last week barely got

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past Arkansas, and then, of course Brian remembers the Notre
Dame game, back and forth, high scoring game. Gave up
forty plus in both games, and I do think the
A and M defense scares me a little bit in
this spot because we haven't seen LSU's offense put it
together for four quarters. Yet they ran it a little
bit better last week against Vandy. They're running it a

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little bit better over the last few weeks. Nus Meyer
maybe's getting a little bit healthier. Like I can make
a case for LSU's offense being the front foot in
this game. Now on the other side, for A and
M's offense, I'm a little concerned with LSU's linebacking group
right with Weeks is out this week, he's the star.
You got Harold Perkins, who's playing out of position. You've
got the older Week's brother, West Weeks, who's kind of

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their best tackler. A and M. When I watch them
on tape, it's a lot of eye candy. Like they
go in a lot of twenty one personnel. What's that
two running backs, one tight end. They'll put both backs
in the backfield, they'll play action one to the left,
they'll run the other one on the right on like
a post corner route, and they they do a lot
of different like they'll counter Marceu Reid on the quarterback
run like it's it's a lot of window dressing. And

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if LSU doesn't have I discipline at the linebacker level today,
Marso Reid's gonna have a really good game. But it's
Death Valley at night in a desperation spot, and the
number is kind of telling you that LSU might be
live here, right, I think with A and M being
undefeated and the fact that it's not a full three
points on the road, I think that's kind of telling

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you that the market thinks LSU is going to compete
in this game.

Speaker 4 (47:13):
I think it's sort of telling you that brand recognition wise,
Texas A and M is not what say like Alabama
or Georgia is you know what I mean? Like, I
think the past has a lot to do with this line. Also,
like if you put Texas A and M the same
team in Alabama jerseys, I don't think they're only favored
by two and a half on the road.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Is that fair?

Speaker 7 (47:35):
I think it's completely fair. Right, Like it's A and M.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
Okay, they're playing a lot better, they're undefeated, they're you know,
they're doing well.

Speaker 7 (47:43):
But it's A and M.

Speaker 4 (47:45):
You know, if it's Kirby Smart and Georgia, I think
they're favored by more than two and a half in
this one. If you just put them in Georgia uniforms,
if you will, I don't know if you agree with
that or not, but I certainly think that the lack
of brand recognition is subtly involved in this point spread.

Speaker 6 (48:02):
Also, yeah, well let me give some flowers to Texas
A and M. Who I mean, it was a battle,
let's be honest against against Arkansas, but they pulled it off.
It's it's it's a pretty solid team. Their defense, they
are Let's put it this way. I don't really see

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a weakness with A and M. I don't see a
glaring weakness. I think offensively they've done some great things.
Their zone read concept has been carried by their running back,
who's again very similar to how we're talking about Ahmad
Hardy out of the Missouri Tigers. They do a nice
job of getting upfield in a hurry when they're getting

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to that. I think that they're pretty fully capable team
on both sides of the ball. And yeah, it arose
by another name. Does it smell as sweet? But maybe
it smells sweeter to take this experience. If A and
M wore Georgia jerseys, would we be taking them more seriously.
I think that's actually a good way to look at

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this team. The answer is probably yeah. I think that
A and M is not getting the credit they deserve yet. However,
I don't think LSU as bad as some of their.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
Some of their games would lead you to believe.

Speaker 6 (49:23):
And that's such a bizarre thing to say, because you
are rated and ranked by your wins and losses in
college football. But I don't think this team stinks like
people think this team stinks. I think they're just easy
to hate. I think that LSU has recently had a
lot of success because, let's face it, their national power,
who's able to recruit well and you know, I mean

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it feels like the Joe Burrow days are years and
years ago, but that's happened recently, and Brian Kelly is
not a well loved character in college football, right, you know?
So I just I think that gets factored in when
we look at some of the spreads as well. I
think they're an easy team to bet against, and so
oftentimes we see lines move away from LSU, especially when

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they're having some struggles, and they're still a pretty good team.

Speaker 7 (50:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (50:14):
Yeah, LSU to me is a team that's a sleeping giant,
and Brian your original point, I don't think the number,
the core power rating number is impacted on the uniforms
based off of Oh, if you know, if A and
M was wearing George uniforms would be a higher number.
But what I do think matters is the perception from
the betting public.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
Right.

Speaker 5 (50:33):
The betting public is not overly excited to hop on
Texas A and M as a road favorite, right, And
that's why we haven't seen this number get the three
because let's be honest, the records, the way these teams
have played, A and M should be a field goal
favorite over LSU, but they're not. And I think part
of that is the again, that perception, whether it's reality
or not, that LSU at home at night, they have

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the win over Clemson early in the year on the road,
They've shown you some positives this year. I think if
they can get their run game going and they can
keep somehow keep that Marcel Reid rpo game in check,
it's gonna be tough. You watch them against Notre Dame
like this is a really dangerous A and M offense.
And I don't love the LSU linebackers, And that's the

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key to stopping this A and M defense is keeping
those linebackers on the right level and keeping their eyes
in the right place, because A and M is gonna
fake you here and toss you there and boot you
here like it's It's gonna be a lot of window
dressing tonight. So I'm excited this is gonna be a
really fun watch because I do think if LSU wins
this game, I do think we're gonna start to have

(51:38):
some conversations about how wide open this SEC race is.
I don't know who that second team is right now.
I feel comfortable Bama's gonna be in the SEC championship game.
I don't know who the second team is. I honestly don't.
It could be A and M. It could be Georgia,
could be Vandy, could be missoo. Like, there's four or

(52:00):
five teams that can all make their case, and LSU's
probably not one of those teams. But they could definitely
play spoiler tonight for A and M. Swops of getting
to that SEC title.

Speaker 7 (52:10):
Yeah, it's a gotsa have it spot for LSU. They
already have two losses.

Speaker 4 (52:14):
Their next game after this one is at Alabama, So
you drop to what five and and two?

Speaker 7 (52:21):
You drop to five e three two.

Speaker 5 (52:23):
In the league right now, So they lose to two
and three.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
In Yeah, that's it's curtains if they lose this one.
But that's the funny thing too. If you look at LSU,
it feels like the way they're talked about, it feels
like they're three and four right now, you know what
I mean, they're five and two. I think some of
it is Brian Kelly is easy to dislike. That's part
of it. And part of it is their offense is
sucked this season, Like we gravitate toward oh, man, look

(52:47):
at this team and their offense. We don't gravitate toward
a team that's like, man, look at this team and
their sucky offense, right Like, that's just not how it goes.
But at the end of the day, they lost to
Ole Miss on the road by five points. They lost
to Vandy on the road by seven points. That's not like, man,
this team is a grease fire, you know so, and
they're at home. The home team has won the last

(53:08):
eight games in this series, and six have been decided
by multiple scores. Take that for what you will. That
goes into I thought it was funny this week. So
Texas A and M head coach Mike Elko, he was
asked by a reporter about Texas A and M's oh
win six record at Tiger Stadium since they joined the SEC.

Speaker 7 (53:29):
The reporter's like.

Speaker 4 (53:29):
Hey, you've had a tough time at LSU, And He's like,
by tough time, you mean we've never done it, Like,
we've never beaten them on the road. So that's what
Texas A and M is up against as well tonight.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (53:42):
Yeah, and they're up against the Garrett Nis Smier because
enough has been said about LSU's poor rush offense, and
I think anytime the media or anybody questions Brian Kelly
on you know, how they've struggled in that area of
their offense had been very differ fishing. They've really done

(54:02):
a nice job in the passing game, and specifically, while
ness Meyer isn't pushing the ball down field, he's been
effishing with his arm.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
He's doubled his.

Speaker 6 (54:09):
Touchdown and big throw numbers compared to last year. Here's
here's where it gets a little dicey for him. The
drop rate amongst his receivers is is pretty pretty significantly
higher this year compared to last year. And so look,
you can be the best quarterback on the planet if

(54:30):
you're throwing the football to guys who are dropping it.
I mean, you turn on that film and you say, hey,
that's a first down there, Man, geez, that sets us
up for a fourth and short right there, and then
you know, roll the dice. But I'm guessing we get
it because we had so much you know, going for
us on that drive. Hey there's another touchdown dropped. Like
you start adding them up over the course of a

(54:52):
seven game season and you say, man, we have a
bunch of missed opportunities out there. So that's another part
of this team where if you clean up some of
the mistakes and some of this offense coalesces a little
bit in the passing game and you get anything going
on the ground, you're gonna be able to control the
line of scrimmage better. You're gonna be able to have

(55:13):
better success. Now can they do that? Can they make
those amendments? Can they fix those mistakes at this point
in the season. Well, that's gonna be coaching, and that's
going to be player buying, and we'll see this is
a tough task. I think this is a very, like
I said, a really well rounded Texas A and M
team coming in for a night game at LSU.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
They could play runers here. I just have this belief.

Speaker 6 (55:39):
That desperate, desperate coaches and good coaches, which Brian Kelly is,
even though he's not well liked, he's a good coach.
They do special things when they're under the microscope. And
I think, I think this could be a good night
for LSU.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (55:54):
I didn't think elis who played bad last week at Man.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Yeah, I don't either.

Speaker 5 (55:57):
Nus Meyer was solid, no pay. The running game was good,
right like Durham and Berry. You take away the sacks.
Nus Meyer had a couple of sacks. He was in
the negative yards, but you take away the sacks. They
ran for over six yards of carry. Durham was over
eight yards of carry. Like they they are dangerous when
they can figure out the right buttons to push. It

(56:18):
was actually funny. That was the Mike Elko quote. Brian.
It was so funny. It was I think someone asked
them specifically, so you know, how hard is it to
win at Death Valley at night? And he's like, I
don't know, we've never won there. It was great. It
was a great coaching quote kind of vibe where he's
just like, I don't know how hard. I don't know,
We've never done it. There's there's a lot of there's

(56:41):
definitely a lot of positives for LSU in this game.
I think the market is telling me LSU is the
right side. I did take some LSU plus two and
a half. I missed the three earlier this week. We've
got it in the platter this week. I A and
m's a good story. A and M is not a
team that strikes me that's gonna go undefeated in the
SEC this year. I just don't think they're on that level.

(57:02):
I think they're a team that's got a chance, just
like last year, to sneak into the SEC championship game
and to cause some havoc Because of the style of
offense that they play. It is very tough to defend,
especially if you are not disciplined at the linemacker level,
which LSU has a deficiency at that spot. But then
you look to the other side of the ball and

(57:22):
you look at LSU's offense against his A and M
defense that I think has struggled on the road in
tough spots this year. They were fortunate to get past
Notre Dame. They were fortunate to get past Arkansas. That
Arkansas game was tight, and Arkansas is terrible. Arkansas is
not a good football team, and that game was tight
back and forth. LSU is a much more buttoned up
football team than Arkansas is right now, and that tells

(57:44):
me that LSU might be the team that should be
favored here or at least considered to be the better
team in the home environment at night.

Speaker 4 (57:53):
You know, I'll say real fast, the IF game can
be interesting and can be a tool, and it could
also get you into trouble here. But let me throw
it out with Texas A and M. If Texas A
and M had lost to Notre Dame and they easily
could have right it's fourth and goal from the eleven,
and they somehow scored a touchdown and won the game,

(58:14):
you know, got away with a holding penalty.

Speaker 7 (58:16):
But I digress.

Speaker 4 (58:19):
If that's a loss and they're six and one heading
into this game against LSU, how do you feel about them?
Because that could easily be the case, and so I
think it's just something worth considering. Obviously, that didn't happen,
and that said a lot of things in motion that
you know you can't undo with the IF game. But

(58:39):
it's just something to consider when you're handicapping this game
and thinking about it going in. When you see the
zero in the loss column, that's pretty powerful for Texas
A and M. But it's not like they haven't been
on the ropes before, and they could easily be on
the ropes in this game tonight. Hey, we've got Rich Orenberger,
Penn State All American, Jared Smith FSR betting analyst.

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Speaker 7 (01:00:11):
Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
Follow the money, real good money.

Speaker 4 (01:00:15):
Yes, we welcome in our good friend, Seamus McGee, team
lead of Sports Trading at BEDMGM. Good morning to you, Seamus.
So uh, I'm in the FSR studios here in LA
and there's live soccer on. I couldn't help but think
you got some action on this stuff?

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
Are you?

Speaker 7 (01:00:31):
Are you fired away early on a Saturday morning?

Speaker 10 (01:00:34):
I usually do, but didn't like the early slate of
games Sunday. We have a little bit better of a slate,
so we'll be involved tomorrow instead.

Speaker 7 (01:00:44):
Very nice.

Speaker 4 (01:00:45):
Well we'll start it with football here, like the real football,
you know, and uh easy, you know, the real football.
Seamous what uh what do you need at BEDMGM? What
are a couple of big needs today?

Speaker 10 (01:00:59):
I tell you what. Vanderbilt has been an extremely popular
side this week. A lot of love for Vandy. With
Maszoo coming to town. We're really gonna need the Zoo.
That's right now looking like one of the bigger needs
for us today.

Speaker 5 (01:01:13):
That makes me very happy because we just did the
parlay platter a few minutes ago, and we were hot
and heavy on the Missoo Tigers. I think the other
game that we were also we put in the platter.
That also is very intriguing from a number standpoint, right,
it's this A and M at LSU game. You would
think A and M being undefeated and LSU having all

(01:01:33):
of the negativity losing two of their last three. They're
coming off that loss to Vandy. You would think A
and M would be a bigger favorite. But Death Valley
at Night maybe some Brian Kelly, you know desperation vibes
that I'm assuming that you're gonna need LSU in this game.

Speaker 10 (01:01:50):
It's a it's a funny one. I mean, we got
we got a little way still kick off here for
this game, and you know, there's definitely some action on
both ways. I mean a lot of the money's coming
on LSU, but a lot of the tickets are coming
in on A and M today. So it is a
funny spread because I'm with the LS has not looked
great past weeks at A. M is a pretty hot
team right now, so definitely some interest on both sides.

(01:02:13):
I think we're going to end up if I was
a gambling man, I think wisterre gonna end up meeting
A and M.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
Here.

Speaker 10 (01:02:20):
Everyone's getting a little hip to LSU today.

Speaker 6 (01:02:23):
Hey, you know a game that I'm not even sure
if we're going to get to this morning because it
has blowout written all over it. I don't think Stanford
has much for Miami today, considering the spot therein coming
off of an emotional loss, going on the road to
a team that just wants to I couldn't be a
better situation for Miami.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
To get a big win. Will Stanford ever get it right?

Speaker 6 (01:02:46):
They got the general Andrew Luck as their general manager
now and we saw years of success during the luck
in McCaffrey years after it is it possible to ever
ever see Stanford emerge considering they've now realigned conferences, or
does this feel like we're going back into the dark

(01:03:07):
ages with the.

Speaker 10 (01:03:07):
Cardinal Stanford is an interesting program. They are school with
a lot of money. I think you've seen a lot
of schools light standard, Like look at Virginia this year.
A lot of money is pouring into this program and
you're starting seeing them turn around. I think Stanford could
be a team like that. I know they I'm pretty
sure they just got a big donation into the football program,

(01:03:30):
but you do. But it is a good point. Like
being in the ACC. It is a ton of travel
for this team. I think they're I don't think they're
going to be completely written off the map. They could
go through a couple of years where you know they're
kind of finding themselves. But I could see them at
some point kind of getting back to like the good
old days. But it is going to take some time

(01:03:51):
to adjusting just being in this conference. But when you
have the money now, anything is possible.

Speaker 6 (01:03:58):
Having said that, I love Miami in this one. I
think I mean put the spread at whatever number you want.
I think the Hurricanes cover it. It's going to be
blood bath.

Speaker 10 (01:04:07):
And I there's a lot of people who share the
same thoughts as you. We're gonna need Stanford tonight. But hey,
we know very well this is a stupid sport with
a stupid shape ball. A lot of different things could happen.

Speaker 4 (01:04:21):
How about this ol Miss Oklahoma game, Seamus, where you've
got the Sooners. They're favored by four and a half.
The total is ticked down a little bit now it's
at fifty two and a half. What do you think
happens in this one?

Speaker 10 (01:04:34):
I'm an Old Miss guy. I love Trinidad Chamblins. I
really was surprised they ended up losing that game last week.
It felt like they were in control for at least
three quarters. Then they just couldn't get off the field
on defense. But Oklahoma, I like, really really looks good
last week at South Carolina in a weird spot coming

(01:04:54):
off that loss against Texas. It's gonna be an interesting
one personally, I said before, I like Old Miss, but uh,
there is there is some interest on in Old Myths today.
They're one of our most best spreads and on the
tickets and the money so we're probably gonna end up
meeting Oklahoma. That's it's definitely gonna be a good game.

Speaker 5 (01:05:13):
Public dog, please, that's scary with ole Miss. I I
like Oklahoma. I think the tier if he if he
shows up healthy today with that thumb, I think Matier
gets all Miss across the finish line another stad. I
mean these lines this week. I think we're at that
point now where we feel like we have a good
handle on these teams and who they are, Seamus, and
then we get these numbers and it's just like, all right,

(01:05:34):
what do I don't? What do I'm not? What am
I not seeing here? Iowa State unranked favored against undefeated BYU.
This doesn't happen often, but when it does, usually the
unranked home favorite wins.

Speaker 10 (01:05:47):
And it's definitely something everyone's you know, aware of, now know.
I think there was a point where if there was
an edge here, like it was just so why play
the game? You know, undefeated and ranked team is a
dog on the road against the unring team. I think
we're gonna need BYU here. A lot of people like
Iowa stayed and it's just a line that stinks. We

(01:06:10):
see it every week.

Speaker 6 (01:06:12):
If you would have told me Seamus that Ty Simpson
Julian saying, you know, Alabama Ohio state signal callers, we're
in the top five of Heisman odds. I would have
sayh yeah, yeah, that makes sense. But Fernando Mendoza out
of Indiana, Marcel Reed texts A and M more likely
to be involved in the conversation. But Diego, Pavia, Vanderbilt

(01:06:34):
all in the top five odd getter in terms of
potential Heisman winners. This has been an odd season. I mean,
is there somebody's Is there somebody stock you say to
stock up on now because there's good value there.

Speaker 10 (01:06:52):
If you dasked me last week, it was Traddad Chambliss.
But it's they're gonna have to He's gonna have to
really show out, almost have to went out. But I
mean it is it's so weird, Like I feel like
the last few years there's always been like a runaway
guy with crazy numbers. There's a Heisman moment mixed in.
I like, if the season end of the day, I

(01:07:14):
think I would give it to ty Simpson, But Mendoza
is putting up some pretty ridiculous numbers and he does
have that signature. Went on the road at Oregon. He's
a favorite for a reason. But I tell you, if
Vanderbilt just cames winning games. The media loves Diego Pavia,
and I think there's gonna be a big surge if
they just especially if they win today. I mean this,

(01:07:37):
this could be a guy that ends up being I
think he'll end up being on the Heisman stage when
it's all said and done.

Speaker 5 (01:07:43):
Brian, can I jump in real quick cause I want
to fall up on that and you're gonna let no time.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
Sorry?

Speaker 5 (01:07:46):
How about Jeremiah Love?

Speaker 10 (01:07:51):
I'm with you on Jeremiah Love. He's probably gonna score
what twenty touchdowns this year? Notre Dame. They just got
the hardest game of the schedule out of the way.
He had a great game in that. If he really
racks up some yards and keeps getting into the end zone,
there's a world you see his odds sturge up. I mean,
what if Marcel Reid loses today. I think you see
his odds fall down. Stockton and Georgia's like, Stockton's got

(01:08:14):
better odds than Love right now. But is George's success
coming down to him? I know there's been a lot
of detractives from in recent weeks, I could see Love
getting having some value for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:08:27):
What about Jeremiah Love and Darian Price being the first
teammates to split the Heisman? What do you think about that?

Speaker 10 (01:08:36):
I love my fighting Irish and I love nothing more
to see that. But I mean, can you imagine do
you imagine the world when that happens. I think everyone
would freak out. Would be unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (01:08:47):
Every the sports books would melt down. You know, it'd
be crazy, be chaos in the streets. All right, you're
seamous special? What do you have for us this week?

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
Few?

Speaker 10 (01:08:57):
A few things caught my eye. I mean, we had
Wisconsin team total under last week. Yep, they haven't scored
in two weeks, and now they go to Austin. I
don't hate a flyer on them to be shut out again,
But that's not what I'm going with. Everyone knows I
love my FCS football, and we got a great FCS
game today. Game day should be there, in my opinion,

(01:09:20):
in South Dakota State, North Dakota State. But more as
much as I love FCS football, I love the Pioneer
Conference far more. And we got a weird looking line
today San Diego three and four san Diego is traveling
across the country to Davidson, North Carolina laying four touchdowns
and we're gonna lay it. This is a had Davidson team.

(01:09:44):
They've lost to our steps and hatters that we've been
on so many times. Here, it's gonna be San Diego
coming off of by going into Davidson and really putting
a beat down on Davidson today.

Speaker 4 (01:09:57):
Okay, all right, you never disappointed. We never know what
to expect. You keep us on our toes, man, But
that's why we love you. I hope you enjoyed the day.
We'll catch you soon, Seamus.

Speaker 10 (01:10:07):
I'm agoing go to games.

Speaker 4 (01:10:08):
You too, there, Seamus McGee, team lead of sports Trading
at bet MGM. Hey, we jump right into a game
that rich you were talking about this. How about Stanford
at Miami. Man, it's like a microcosm of college football
this year.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
Guys.

Speaker 4 (01:10:22):
If you look at Miami, they're favored by twenty nine
and a half in this game. They're gonna be rocking
some sweet Camo jerseys today. But I think it's a
microcosm of the top teams in college football right where
you look at, say the top ten teams and you
can look at their strengths certainly, and you can look
at their weaknesses. That's the case with a lot of

(01:10:42):
these top teams that are going to challenge to win
it all. If you look at Miami, they made us
say wow a few times, like Wow, they beat Notre
Dame first game of the season. Wow, they smashed South Florida.
Then they beat Florida, they beat Florida State, And the
last time we saw them, they laid an egg against Louisville.
Ye had Carson Beck throwing four interceptions. They rushed for

(01:11:04):
only sixty three yards right against Louisville. So, man, this
Miami team, they probably get right tonight in a big way.
But what do you think about them going forward? And
I guess the larger picture is that not what college
football is. These top teams obvious strengths, but most of
them have obvious drawbacks and weaknesses as well.

Speaker 6 (01:11:25):
Yeah, I would say that is actually a perfect sort
of summation or explanation about what college football has looked
like this whole season. However, Stanford couldn't be in a
worse spot coming off of a win where they were
steep underdogs. Miami coming off of a loss a heartbreaker

(01:11:45):
and defending a home court Stanford ask to travel cross country.
We're just talking to Shamus about this. That really does matter.
Those trips suck. It's hard to do, and now with
conference realignment, they're gonna have to get used to it
because that's the new normal. Stanford's offense is horribly inefficient.

(01:12:06):
They have rotating quarterbacks. They're expected production or their past
game production is dreadful. They've I mean, basically any stat
you look at the Cardinals struggles with Here's what I
will say, though, there has been such volatility in college

(01:12:28):
football that, like Seamus also pointed out, that ball bounces
in funny ways. And even though this is a dream
spot for Miami, could I see a situation where weird
things happen and all of a sudden we're saying, you know,
Stanford is contending they're not gonna win, but but we
are a long way from talking about the spread in

(01:12:48):
this one.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
Yeah, I could see that. It's it's just been that
kind of season.

Speaker 6 (01:12:53):
So I don't count any chickens before they hatch in
twenty twenty five because we've been fooled before. But this
is just one of those spots, man, where I don't know,
and we'll see it on rapid fire.

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
I'll tell you right now. I like Miami. I like Miami.

Speaker 6 (01:13:10):
In this game, but it's to cover a big old
spread here. But it's just one of those. It's just
one of those those you know, if I lose this one,
I'll be fine with that result kind of thing like,
And I think those are the best bets, the ones
where you actually feel comfortable losing, where you say, yeah,
I mean, I'm on the right side of this one,
no matter what. And that's what it sort of feels

(01:13:32):
like because Stanford could not be an a ward.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
They are literally their foots on a landmine.

Speaker 6 (01:13:39):
Now somebody's asking them to go, you know, go get
a cup of coffee for them.

Speaker 5 (01:13:46):
Yeah, I mean, I think this one is I try
not to overthink these games, right, And are you going
to be feeling good about your Miami bet when it's
thirty one ten in the fourth quarter? No? No, But
that's the only way you can really play this game, Like,
I would not recommend betting Stanford in this spot. Does
that mean Stanford can't cover? No, of course they can cover.

(01:14:06):
Anything could happen, as we just mentioned. But I'm looking
at their advanced stats right now, and it's like everything
is red, like everything every higher it's really bad. And
then on the Miami side, everything's green. Everything's all rosy
and sunshine. Even though that they lost that game last week,
I think they still played well. They just could make
a play down the stretch. I have no desire to

(01:14:30):
take points in this matchup. I think there's certain games
where I would be interested in taking points when it's
a big number. But I think Miami's in one of
those spots where we don't see TSS become a factor.
Tight sphincter syndrome. I don't think Mario. I feel like
he consulted his doctors last week and he's been cured
of that symptom for at least a week, and I

(01:14:52):
think the Miami's going to be just fine today.

Speaker 4 (01:14:54):
You know, it's funny like something that cures TSS sometimes
is a loss.

Speaker 7 (01:15:00):
Well, that's a weird thing.

Speaker 4 (01:15:01):
Think about Ohio State last year they lost to Michigan.
That was a TSS game at home against Michigan, and
that was gone right. They cured them no TSS going
forward as they bulldozed through the college football playoffs. So
we'll see if that can happen from Miami. By the way,
real fast quick bo Rich, you mentioned the dual quarterbacks thing. Yeah,

(01:15:22):
teams with dual quarterbacks is like meeting a girl who
says I do.

Speaker 7 (01:15:26):
A little prostitution on the side. It's like, not.

Speaker 4 (01:15:29):
Interested, not interested in any teams with dual quarterbacks.

Speaker 7 (01:15:33):
Not interested?

Speaker 5 (01:15:34):
What the NFL team with a dual quarterback? The Jets
are currently experiencing that right now, there.

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Speaker 7 (01:16:55):
All right, let's do this.

Speaker 3 (01:16:58):
Prop it up player plays.

Speaker 4 (01:17:02):
Yes, I've been meaning to take a dip in the
prop betting waters over here. Feels great, doesn't it. We
start with you, Jared, What do you like?

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
I like?

Speaker 5 (01:17:11):
I'm really hot and heavy on this handicap today with
Missouri's offense, most notably their run game against this Bandy defense.
I just don't think Bandy's defense has really been tested
in that portion of the offense just yet. In terms
of stretching you out and running this wide zone scheme
and being dangerous with both Pabula also, but I'm just
going to give you a Mott Hardy over eighty eight

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and a half rush yards. He can gash you, and
I think Trabula's legs are also going to be a
factor in this game. But we've talked about it before.
We don't like the quarterback rushing yards because of sacks,
so I'll just focus on the running back here. This
will be the best running offense that Bandy has faced
all year, and in many of their games, Bandy's had
a big lead, which is neutralized the run game. Hardy's

(01:17:54):
props listen. I think you're getting a discount here because
he's been held to less than sixty yards in his life.
But that's a little bit circumstantial because in the prior
four he was one hundred plus in all of those games,
and he's still averaging over six yards per carry. So
I feel like this is the game where Maszoo comes in,
establishes the run, and leaves Nashville with a win. A
Mott Hardy a big reason why over eighty eight and

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a half rush yards for.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
Me today, A name you've heard before on Profita.

Speaker 6 (01:18:21):
I'm going to go with Tailing Green, quarterback for the
Arkansas Razor Picks, who is leading a top five offense
nationally by almost any metric you look at. Here's where
I worry about Tailing Green and his passing yardage. It's
two hundred and thirty five and a half yards he
has to go over by for me to hit this bet.

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
They have an elite.

Speaker 6 (01:18:44):
Front upfront on our burn side of the defense, but
on the back end, their secondary is dreadful.

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
So if he can evade and elude the.

Speaker 6 (01:18:52):
Rush at times and pump the ball downfield like we've
seen him do many times, I think this could potentially
sail over. Oh give me Taylor Green two hundred and
thirty five and a half passing yards.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
I'm taking over.

Speaker 7 (01:19:05):
Yeah, pretty tough to take the under.

Speaker 4 (01:19:07):
It's almost like the NBA All Star Game right when
it comes to Taylor Green unders, it's like, Hey, a
lot overs hit. I'm gonna go with Minnesota running back
Darius Taylor. Okay, give me under seventy one and a
half rushing yards at Iowa. Iowa's allowing just three point
four yards per carry. That does not include sacks and

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Minnesota they are one hundred and third in rushing success rate.
And another reason why I really like this one so
Darius Taylor. He rushed for a buck forty eight last
week against Nebraska, So guess what Iowa's gonna be focused
on stopping him like we can't let Darius Taylor go
off on us like he did against Nebraska. I really

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like under seventy one and a half in this spot.

Speaker 7 (01:19:54):
I will back Iowa.

Speaker 4 (01:19:56):
Give me, give me Darius Taylor under seventy one and
a half right there.

Speaker 5 (01:20:01):
I don't think there's anything else interesting today.

Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
I really like.

Speaker 5 (01:20:04):
I do think we're gonna see some points in this
LSU and A and M game. I do. I think
nuss Meyer is gonna be aggressive. I think Durham's gonna
have some some moments, and I think Marcel Reid's gonna
have his moments too. I would look to play some
props overs in the A and MLSU game.

Speaker 4 (01:20:19):
I thought about Durham. You know, it's at fifty and
a half. I'd have to check it again, but it
was fifty and a half last night.

Speaker 7 (01:20:26):
Probably the same thing. I don't hate it either. You know,
it might be a good way to go.

Speaker 4 (01:20:30):
Coming up next, we'll extend the prop betting talk with
this quarterback.

Speaker 7 (01:20:36):
Oh, what is going on?

Speaker 4 (01:20:37):
We are less than one hour away from kickoff. Over here,
we're also less than one hour away from kickoff when
it comes to this ol Miss Oklahoma game.

Speaker 7 (01:20:48):
Huh.

Speaker 4 (01:20:49):
We now have Oklahoma favored by five and a half.
Very interesting. How about this for ole Miss? It was
ugly defensively last week for ole Miss at Georgia. Georgia
had five hundred and ten yards of offense. They gained
thirty four first downs against Ole Miss's defense. If you
look at time of possession, you had Georgia. They had

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the ball for over thirty seven minutes in that game,
and they scored on each of their eight their first
eight possessions, never punted. That that Old Miss defense gotta
be a whole heck of a lot better against Oklahoma.
What's interesting in this matchup? When Oklahoma has the ball,
it's weak versus week. Oklahoma's offense is not great. Ole

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Missus defense is not great either. When Ole Miss has
the ball, it's strength versus strength. You look at that
ole Miss offense really really good. That Oklahoma defense also
really good. So I like that, right, When ole Miss
has the ball strength versus strength, when Oklahoma has the
ball weakness versus weakness, I think it's gonna be a
lot of fun today.

Speaker 2 (01:21:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:21:54):
Ole Miss obviously high flying passing attack always seem to
get the ten on lane Kiffin teams.

Speaker 2 (01:22:02):
However, Lacy is.

Speaker 6 (01:22:03):
One of the country's best backs. I mean, he's compiled
over six hundred yards ten touchdowns through the seven games
he's played in. He's tied for third most rushing scores
in the country and he ranked second in that sec
with forty nine forced miss tackles. I mean, this guy
gets his yards after contact and he's able to put

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people out of their shoes. Here's the bad news. The
run defense has been shredded, absolutely shredded. They're allowing four
and a half plus yards per carry one hundred sixty
six plus per.

Speaker 2 (01:22:36):
Game on the ground this season.

Speaker 6 (01:22:37):
So yeah, it's going to be one of those games
where you're going to see. The benefactor in the game
is going to be when either side has the football
on this one. But all Miss, it's like they're good
where they're good, and they're not where they ain't. And
right now, defensively, they give a lot to be desired.

Speaker 5 (01:23:00):
Yeah, strength versus strength a good way to put it, Brian,
I think the pushback I have on the weakness versus weakness,
I would argue that when Mateer is healthy, this Oklahoma
offense is pretty decent. I think Matier is a Heisman candidate.
If he plays the full season at peak strength, he
maybe wins the Heisman this year. We'll see how healthy
he is. You know, he looked awful against Texas. He

(01:23:22):
looked a little bit better against South Carolina. Right, Like,
if we play that forward and we say maybe he
was like fifty percent against Texas, he should not have played.
Maybe he was sixty seventy percent against South Carolina. Maybe
he's eighty percent this week, maybe closer to ninety. I
doubt he's going to be one hundred percent, probably not
for the rest of the year. But if we get
another step in the positive direction against that peak golden defense,

(01:23:45):
I think that could be a big edge for Oklahoma
in this game. Right if you want to say that
old Missus defense is a weakness and Oklahoma looks better
on offense than he did last week against South Carolina,
I liked what I saw from the freshman Tory Blaylock,
their traditional tailback. Of course, here in the run game
is dangerous. I've got another young sophomore tailback, Xavier Robinson,
who also looked good last week. So Oklahoma can gash

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you a little bit in the run game, and that's
where ole Miss has really struggled this year. The intangible
to this game, I think needs to be mentioned. Apparently
Florida backed up the brinks truck for lank kiff and
I'm here and it's like, you know, one hundred million
or something in that range. And obviously ole miss Is
players I'm sure have heard this news as well based
off what lank Kiffen told the media. He's actually meeting

(01:24:31):
with his players to talk about this and they're gonna
put it all very out in the open and they're
gonna discuss it because ole Miss's players haven't really been
through this at this level. And the way he's spinning it,
and it's a good way to spin it. Listen, Lane's
a really smart guy. This is a compliment to you.
Florida would not be coming after me unless they thought
highly of you. How I'm coaching the players and what

(01:24:52):
the players are doing, So I like the spin he's
putting on it. But the question I have is what
distraction will this pose for their preparation this week? And
you're going on the road in the SEC and now
you've got this gator looming over your head. It's a
unique scenario and I don't know how his players. I
think Lane will handle it. Okay, I don't know how
his players will handle it.

Speaker 4 (01:25:14):
Yeah, that's fair, you know, if you look at Oklahoma's offense,
fair about John Mattier, but their running game sucks. Like collectively,
this is not a good offense. But Mattier makes it go.
And hopefully he's healthier now. He was not healthy and
he was very rusty against Texas and Texas has a
real defense, right, Texas presents way more problems than ole

(01:25:35):
Miss has defensively this season. And John Mattier looked like
a fish out of water in that game against hook them.
But it's a couple of weeks removed. You know, he's
been able to shake off the rust and you might
see much better performance from him today. The one thing though,
is ole Miss is okay against the pass. They're actually
pretty good against the pass. They're not very good against

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the rush, but that again comes back to Oklahoma, they
have been able to run it. So if you look
at Matier, one of the props that caught my attention,
how about his passing touchdowns? One and a half? The
over is at minus a dollar twenty five. What do
you think, Rich, you like John Mattier to throw at
least two touchdown passes against this old miss pass defense

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that has actually been pretty good, But Oklahoma has a
hard time running it.

Speaker 6 (01:26:20):
I think that I think that they're going to have
to throw the football a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
I really do.

Speaker 6 (01:26:26):
And now I don't want to throw complete shade on
the run game because I think even though they've struggled.
Last weekend was freshman Tory Blaylock's best game of the
season against South Carolina.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
He racked up over one hundred yards in that one.

Speaker 6 (01:26:41):
It has been a mess of a season from a
rush offense standpoint for Oklahoma so far. And Matier's getting
better and better each week, and so as he creeps
closer and closer to one hundred percent health, what does
that mean for Oklahoma. Well, when he was healthy, he
was averaging over three hundred yards per game, and he
was passing per attempt eight and a half yards or

(01:27:02):
eight and a half yards plus per attempt. I mean
those numbers dropped off the map after the injury to
one hundred and seventy six yards per game and five
and a half yards past per attempt or I should say, yeah,
yardage per attempt on his passing, So you can see
the stark difference. But he's been playing, he's getting healthier,

(01:27:23):
He's gonna trust his hand more as he keeps playing.
So yeah, I don't hate taking the over on that prop.
I think Oklahoma they hang around in every game at
very least and they have a look at winning every game,
and if that's going to be the case against a
Rebels defense that can be had. Yeah, I would be
more comfortable taking over than the under on that that

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one and a half touchdown pass prop.

Speaker 5 (01:27:46):
I think you just lay it with Oklahoma here, guys.
I don't want to overthink this. This is another one
of those scenarios where it's higher ranked team on the
road against the lower ranked team with quarterback injury issues,
and it's the lower ranked team with the quarterback injury
issues that's lay in more than a field goal. Again,
the market is kind of telling you which team is

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on the front foot here. I'm curious to see how
we talked about the strength versus strength. I did a
preview for this video earlier the week that we posted
on our betem gym and Fox Sports Radio Socials, and
I kind of called it neutral. Right, It's a wash
between the Oklahoma defense number one and pressure right number
one and overall defense and that lank iff In offense,

(01:28:30):
which is obviously very explosive top ten and explosive play rate.
I called it neutral. The more I think about it,
I actually do believe there is a slight edge to
Oklahoma because I think the one issue I see with
ole Miss, and it's not necessarily an offensive issue, it
actually plays into their defense. We want to ask questions
about why the ole Miss defense struggled so mightily last

(01:28:54):
week when they were on the field for eighty plays
and they were just gassed in that game against Georgia.
Let's be cause the ole Miss offense course so damn
fast and they don't give their defense time to rest.
So I actually think the two scenarios that play out here, right,
ole Missus defense or excuse me, all Missus offense has
success against this Oklahoma defense. They're scoring quickly well then
you gotta throw your defense back on the field really fast,

(01:29:16):
or the other side, you go three and out because
this Oklahoma defense is really good. Well, then you gotta
throw your defense back onto the field and there continue
to be gassed throughout the game. So I think as
we get deeper on in the season, the one thing
I'm learning about ole Miss is their offense being so
explosive and so fast paced is actually a detriment to
their defense and being on the road, it just makes

(01:29:37):
things a little bit more muddled. So I I the
more I look into this game, the more I like Oklahoma.
Maybe that's, you know, me being a little bit biased
towards my bet, but I do feel like the old
Miss offense being so explosive and being so quick actually
is the negative at some points.

Speaker 4 (01:29:54):
I don't know if that applies to today though, right Like,
do you see them being explosive and scoring super fans
on Oklahoma's defense.

Speaker 5 (01:30:02):
It's kind of funny. It kind of reminds me of
a boxing match, right Like, Ole Miss is a team
that needs the knockout blow in order to win this game.
They're not just gonna jab and punch and you know,
a thousand cuts their way to a win today. They
need knockout punches against his Oklahoma defense because I think
over the course of an eight ten, twelve play drive,
Oklahoma's gonna get a play I have it play that's

(01:30:23):
gonna you know, ruin it, whereas ole Miss needs I
think those uppercut lt to land if they want to
win this game.

Speaker 2 (01:30:31):
So yeah, maybe, yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:30:33):
The total it's ticked down just a bit.

Speaker 4 (01:30:35):
Uh, it's down to fifty two and a half, which
is still high, but it's come down a couple of points.

Speaker 7 (01:30:40):
So take it for that it's worth.

Speaker 6 (01:30:42):
I think that's faith in Oklahoma's defense, especially the tone
setters up front. They have a substantial defensive line, and look,
the Sooners lead the country in sackson tackles for loss.
So getting in the kitchen of ole Miss early and
you know, disrupting what would what ole Miss is looking

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to do is going to be a very important part
of this game from the standpoint of of the Oklahoma
Sooners controlling the line of scrimmage. I look at it
kind of simply in matchups like this, I agree with
what Jared said, props feel like like maybe a stay away.

(01:31:25):
I think the market probably is telling you who who
you should put your money on, and don't overthink it.
It's it's pretty It's pretty obvious here. How how this
one may or may not play out based on the feeling.
I like, I like Oklahoma. I think Oklahoma defending their

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home turf makes the most sense.

Speaker 4 (01:31:49):
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Jared Smith FSR betting analyst.

Speaker 7 (01:31:55):
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Speaker 7 (01:33:00):
Right, these teams matter too.

Speaker 4 (01:33:02):
It's a group of five, but hey, one of these
team's gonna make it to the college football playoff. And
this is a really interesting game. How about number eighteen
South Florida against Memphis. Both teams are six and one.
Kicks off here in just over a half hour, right
early start time. And look, man, if you look at USF,
they're really explosive and they do a great job converting

(01:33:24):
on third down. And so that's a big deal today Memphis,
what they have their their quarterback is gonna give it
a go. That's the news this morning. Where you look
at Brendan Lewis, he is expected to start today, and
so it's always good like, hey, yeah, their quarterback's gonna go.
The point spread has changed a little bit, so Memphis

(01:33:46):
is now a three and a half point dog. They
were as much as a five point dog earlier this morning,
but that has changed a bit. So what do you think,
rich little group of five action for you over here?
South Florida at Memphis.

Speaker 6 (01:34:00):
Yeah, Like, here's the thing, both of these teams to
me going into this game could win it. I felt
like it was a toss up a pick them, even
when the spread was a little bit wider. I like Memphis.
They put good pressure on quarterbacks that they're opposing. They
do a nice job limiting explosive plays defensively, They defend

(01:34:24):
the run well, opponents are only rushing three and a
half yards per carry against them, and they do a
nice job even though USF is an explosive offense, and
do a nice job on third down themselves. They're holding Memphis,
the Tigers defensively opponents to thirty five percent on third
down with fourteen takeaways. So this is a pretty solid

(01:34:44):
Tigers defense that USF is going against an offensively missing
possibly their best player on the field, Chass Nimrod. So
I like what I've seen from Memphis's defense. Also, USF
limping into this one a little bit. And even if
Brandon Lewis isn't one hundred percent. AJ hill Is backup

(01:35:06):
turned in a pretty good performance in Lewis's stead. He
threw a tuddy, he was pretty clean. He ran that
that well balanced offense they try to run at Memphis
pretty well. So even if you see Lewis for part
of the game and then Hill goes in there, he's
proven himself to be a capable backup.

Speaker 2 (01:35:26):
So I do like Memphis in this game as dogs.

Speaker 5 (01:35:30):
Yeah. I think first of all, the number has moved
considerably since last night, and that's your indicator. I guess,
maybe not how healthy Brendon Lewis is, but that he's
definitely gonna play.

Speaker 2 (01:35:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:35:43):
You look at both of these teams and they both
kind of remind me of each other, like they're both
kind of mirror images. I think both quarterbacks, right, if
Lewis is healthy and Byron Brown are both, you know,
the best players on the field, and they're both very
reliant on their offenses. Memphis is defense. There's a couple holes.
I didn't like what I saw last week against UAB,

(01:36:05):
although you could make the argument that they were very
much looking ahead of this game and UAB was in
that you know, fired coach spot. But when I look
at this Memphis offense, especially the passing offense. I think
that's where I need to see more. They take a
lot of sacks, the pressure rates too high. Not sure
if South Florida can take advantage of that. This is

(01:36:26):
a very fun group of five race this year. I
think I think the group of five winner, or excuse me,
the group of five representative in the Cultural Playoff, will
come from this conference, the American Conference. But Boise's still
going strong. The knock on Boise is they went to
USF Week one and got absolutely destroyed. So I think

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that's where the committee will look at this American Conference
and say they are the best group of five conference
this year. You've got Navy still lurking. Navy goes to
Memphis the last game of the year and they play
South Florida at home. That game is at Navy in

(01:37:09):
three weeks. So regardless of what happens in this game today,
this kind of feels like the elimination game before the
Big Boss of Navy because Navy looks legit. Listen, guys,
Navy six and zero. You know, they're a much different
Navy team than what we used to We talked about
it last year with play corbatt They're much more vertically
inclined this year throwing the ball than they have been

(01:37:30):
in prior years. They're not just an option three yards
and a cloud of dust offense anymore. So. I actually think,
regardless of who wins this game, I actually think Navy
might be that final boss waiting to knock off one
of these teams in the next few weeks to make
it to the Group of five. I'll be honest, it
would be It would be really fun. How about if

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we get a college football playoff with Navy and Vanderbilt.
I mean, how weird and wacky would that be?

Speaker 2 (01:37:56):
Brian?

Speaker 4 (01:37:57):
Yeah, hey, it would qualify as weird and whack, no doubt.
How about this, speaking of weird and wacky, UCLA at
number two Indiana number two? Indiana like that kind of
weird and wacky, right, But Indiana seven and zero and
huge favorites today. Let me double check just to make sure.

(01:38:18):
But it was forty four and a half, yeah, twenty
so it's yeah, I U is a healthy, healthy favorite
over here, twenty twenty six and a half, right, so
it's ticked up even more. What do you think, rich?
You interested in laying twenty six and a half are
going with the Bruins.

Speaker 6 (01:38:35):
Man, I think Indiana really cares about winning by margin.

Speaker 2 (01:38:41):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (01:38:41):
I don't think winning is enough for them. I think
Signetti likes to pile it on where he ken. I
thought that Ucla Nico played bad last week, just miserable
against Miami, And even though UCLA has woken up over
the past few games, it's really been all about I
don't want to call it lucky play. That's really rude,
so I'll say explosives. There have been some moments where

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they've gotten themselves out of trouble or they've made miraculous, beautiful,
acrobatic catches downfield. So yeah, I'm leaning hard Indiana in
this game.

Speaker 5 (01:39:15):
Yeah, the world is not ready for number one Ohio
State versus number two Indiana in the Big Ten Championship game.
I don't think the world college football world is ready
to swallow that matchup hole. I mean, guys, Indiana's last
real test is at Penn State. I think it's next
week or in two weeks. It's soon. I think they'll

(01:39:38):
win that game. The rest of the schedule for Ohio State,
it's really just a whole bunch of Nothing and Michigan.
I think we are destined for one versus two Big
Ten championship game, which is gonna I hope we get
it because it would be awesome. It would be an
awesome spectacle. I don't think any other teams in the
Big Ten are on that level this year. I put

(01:40:00):
I have four teams on my top tier right now,
subject to change, but Alabama and Georgia and the SEC
and Indiana and Ohio State in the Big Ten. And
I think if I could do a final four, you know,
March Madness style, I would pair those teams up cross
conference matchups and I'd say, there you go, roll the
ball out. Let's let's see who's best. Because right now,

(01:40:20):
Indiana's surprisingly surprisingly in my top tier of national championship contenders.

Speaker 7 (01:40:27):
Interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:40:29):
I want to ask you a question, Jared, and you're
gonna have to give me the benefit of the doubt.
This is not always give you the benefit of the doubt,
of course, as we all know, Yes, this is not
the pick of fight. This is an honest question, okay,
Because we know that you're your roll Tide. You know
you've got the tide box and the roll of toilet
paper on a like a ruler.

Speaker 7 (01:40:49):
Just roll Tide, baby, like you've adopted them.

Speaker 4 (01:40:52):
But but I'm just thinking about I you, right, and
if you look at what has really sold you on
the Tide was going on the road in beating Georgia,
which is a big win, right, But you could play
the same game with Indiana.

Speaker 2 (01:41:05):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:41:05):
They went on the road and they beat Oregon, which
was a mammoth win. And so you look at you.
You love Ty Simpson for good reason. Fernando Mendoz has
been playing really good football. So that's my question is
why are you seemingly higher on Alabama than Indiana when
Indiana has a lot of similar things on the resume

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that the Tide has.

Speaker 5 (01:41:28):
It's just depth, It's just depth. Yeah, I just I
think Indiana. I honestly, I put them on the same
tier as Obama right now. I don't have a lot
of separation between those two teams. Bama would be favorite
on a neutral but I think Signetti and their moxie,
they're a little more experience this year. I think the
fact that they went through the College Wall Playoff last

(01:41:49):
year and had that experience I think will help them
this year. But I still think Bama because of just
how talented the roster is. They are the deepest team
in college football. And that's why in addition to the resume,
like the don't get me wrong, Indiana's resume is solid,
but Indiana has one solid win, Bama has four, and

(01:42:10):
Bama has two good wins on the road. So I
think that's where I'm a little bit more intrigued with
Bama's upside because they were so you know, lacklustering that
opening game and people were jumping ship, and I said, Okay,
let's see how the rest of the season plays out.
And they've bounced back in such a strong way. Indiana

(01:42:30):
hasn't faced a ton of adversity yet this year, Like,
let's see if they're down late in a game and
see how they handle that. You know, they've been on
the front foot in most of their games and all
their games blowing teams out. So I'll be fascinating to
see them. They're not gonna be tested in the next
five games, but I'll be fascinated to see what happens
at Ohio State or on a neutrol against Ohio State
in the Big Den Championship game, how they handle that

(01:42:52):
next step because Bama's gonna be tested a lot over
the next four weeks, where Indiana's not.

Speaker 6 (01:42:57):
I like the points here taking them South Carolina here,
because you look at what Bama's done Underdbor so far.
I think that once they build a little bit of room,
once they get a little comfy, they can come out
flat sometimes. And I could I could see Bama being
a little flat footed, maybe having trouble getting.

Speaker 2 (01:43:18):
Off the bus in this game.

Speaker 6 (01:43:21):
And also, let's be honest, Bama's defense, and part of
the reason why I'm not siding against Bama in any way,
and we've had this debate on the show about Alabama.
I think they look different, and I think the fact
that they look so different hurts my eyes. Like for example,
when Nick Saban was there, you never really saw too

(01:43:42):
much weakness with Bama's defense, and now with the boor
and their defensive coordinator, there are definite holes, like for example,
against a mobile quarterback, they'll struggle more.

Speaker 2 (01:43:53):
Than they have in years past.

Speaker 6 (01:43:55):
And so I could see South Carolina keeping this game close,
whereas in the past, I could see this being a
complete blowout for the Tide over a team that that
you know has kind of tripped over itself all season long,
while Alabama has back to back to back to back
top twenty five wins under their belt.

Speaker 2 (01:44:16):
So yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 6 (01:44:18):
Think Bama wins this game. Don't get me wrong, and
don't get it twisted. I think Bama is an elite
national power this season.

Speaker 2 (01:44:24):
I really do.

Speaker 6 (01:44:26):
However, I'll I'll take whatever it is at this point.
Is at eleven eleven and a half.

Speaker 7 (01:44:30):
Yeah, eleven, So.

Speaker 5 (01:44:31):
I'm on, I'm on South Carolina they do, by the way, Yeah,
I okay, agree with Rich's dake. I think because of
the road that Bama has had, this does feel like
a spot where they maybe take their foot off the
gas a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:44:43):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (01:44:43):
And that's why I think it. Also, it's really tough
to win with margin in the SEC. Double digit favorites.
Last year in the SEC went six and twenty four
against the spread.

Speaker 2 (01:44:52):
Wow, that's a great statue. Yeah I could.

Speaker 6 (01:44:55):
Yeah, that SEC top tough against each other. It's a
it's a grinder of a of a reference.

Speaker 4 (01:45:00):
And think about it too, just getting up for your opponent.
This is a sandwich spot, the Alabama taking on South Carolina.
So Alabama played number five Georgia, number sixteen Vanderbilt number fourteen,
Missouri number eleven, Tennessee now unranked South Carolina. Yeah, and
then they face ranked LSU ranked Oklahoma.

Speaker 2 (01:45:21):
Yeah, so you know, not quite a trap, but we're
right there.

Speaker 7 (01:45:24):
That's right.

Speaker 5 (01:45:24):
I think Bama's gonna I'll be honest, I wouldn't be
shocked if Bama drops a game. And I hope they
do because then it'll get us a better number to
bet on Simpson Heisman and you know, Bama futures. But
I wouldn't be shocked that Bama drops one of these games.

Speaker 2 (01:45:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:45:36):
Yeah, it's an interesting spot for South Carolina too. Right,
they're three and four. If you go back to last season,
they played Bama tough. South Carolina lost by two points.
They lost twenty seven to twenty five, and then that
jump started their season. They won six straight games right
after that. And this is now. We're never really for
South Carolina. It's been a very disappointing season for them.

(01:46:00):
They remind me of the Metallica song The Day that
Never Comes right, That's what South Carolina feels like this year.
Our guy Seamus McGee, he called this remember before the
season started. He's like, yeah, we do this every year. Oh,
Leonora sellers at all. Look at South Carolina. I'm gonna
lose five games easy. He was right here they are.
But this if there's ever a spot for Bama to

(01:46:22):
be a little bit lax, you know, a little unfocused,
it's today in this spot after four ranked opponents and
two more to follow this game unranked South Carolina, who
does have a lot of talent, they just haven't put
it together. Yeah, this is an anticipation type spot here
if you want to go with the dog.

Speaker 6 (01:46:41):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's a real good one. I look,
this is uh again, like Jared said, do I read
as a trap game? Maybe now more after hearing the
stat he gave us about covers against the spread with
double digit spreads and things like that. And also, yeah,
you know, you start looking at that schedule. I cited

(01:47:02):
the four games they just came out of. Yeah, look
what's ahead of South Carolina. I mean, the grind continues
on the other side of South Carolina.

Speaker 2 (01:47:10):
But Bama cannot look at this game.

Speaker 6 (01:47:12):
That way because if you look past any opponent in
this conference, you're doing yourself dirty. But but, but it's
a human game played by real humans who have a
hard time you know, doing the right thing all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:47:27):
Just see the NBA.

Speaker 4 (01:47:29):
Hey hey, by the way, are you guys ready for
a phrase that you probably did not anticipate coming today?

Speaker 10 (01:47:37):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:47:37):
Sure? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:47:38):
How about money coming in on the Wisconsin Badgers?

Speaker 1 (01:47:43):
No?

Speaker 7 (01:47:45):
Yeah, how about that?

Speaker 4 (01:47:46):
So Wisconsin at number six Oregon today, Oregon was favored
by thirty three and a half.

Speaker 7 (01:47:51):
It's down to thirty one and a half. Wow, So
there you go.

Speaker 6 (01:47:55):
I cannot get behind that whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (01:47:59):
I mean, Oregon is.

Speaker 6 (01:48:00):
Now a perennial powerhouse in college football. I don't think
this is gonna be particularly close. I mean, if anything
that's spread dropping a little bit just I mean, just
sweetens the deal if you were waiting on taking Oregon
by a I mean, look, it's hard. It's hard to

(01:48:20):
beat beat a team that's already so down, even worse
than they are. But look at the gauntlet that they've
gone through. Iowa, Ohio State today, Oregon, they have Indiana
in two weeks from now. I mean, Wisconsin right now
is in the thick of it.

Speaker 10 (01:48:40):
Man.

Speaker 6 (01:48:40):
Yeah, I cannot put any money realistic. It's either put
money on Oregon or don't bet this game at all.

Speaker 5 (01:48:46):
Yeah, I mean listen, guys, I think Oregon is coming
off of their game where it was bad spot like
wrong time for you know whoever. I forget who was
the opponent last week, but Oregon just absolutely blew him
out coming off the Indiana game. But you just look
at this week, you would think it's some It was Rutgers.
It was Rutgers. You would think you would think that

(01:49:11):
the smart money has some reason to bet Wisconsin, right,
Like that's when when whenever I see a line move whenever,
you know, we talk about these games all the time,
like the Iowa State BYU game, like the A and
MLSU game where it's just like that line just looks
a little bit weird. I always try to remove my
bias from the equation and say, oh, well, Organ is
so much better, Like, you know, they must be stupid

(01:49:31):
for betting Wisconsin. All right, Well what am I missing? Like, like,
let's look into it and let's see if we can
find anything. I can't find anything. I can't find anything
that makes me want to bet Wisconsin in this game
other than some math nerd out there makes this game
thirty and the line was thirty four, so he's betting
it or some service somewhere it feels like they have

(01:49:53):
an edge and so they're gonna give out Wisconsin or
we've seen this a lot. I know Bill Krachenberger talks
about this a lot on the Sunday Show. Sometimes it's
a headfake. Sometimes you'll get a service release something or
a sharp release something, and it'll move the line. And
the only reason to do that is so they can
come back ten X on the other side after they

(01:50:13):
get a better number. So I cannot think of a
logical reason why you would bet Wisconsin in this game,
besides the fact that it's a very low total game
and the spreads very high, and in that particular scenario,
the underdog really only has to score once or twice
to cover. But man, I just I can't see it happening.

Speaker 4 (01:50:30):
Yeah, no, it's good. It's good to be open minded.
It's a weird thing with sports betting, right. I think
you have to be open minded and you have to
be stubborn at the same time, and those two things
completely contradict each other.

Speaker 7 (01:50:41):
But that's really what it is.

Speaker 4 (01:50:42):
It's like, if there's a point spread that just thinks,
to the high heavens, you got to at least open
your mind and entertain the thought of that might be right.
But the other part of this is the market's wrong too.
The market is dead wrong at times. So I don't
think it makes sense to just open your mind to
the point where you're just some sheep and you're.

Speaker 7 (01:51:03):
Like, they must have it.

Speaker 5 (01:51:05):
I don't.

Speaker 7 (01:51:05):
What do I know?

Speaker 4 (01:51:06):
Well, sometimes you know way more than them, you know
what I mean, So you can be misled by the
market as well. Hey, it is time right now for
the tire rack play of the day. Let's do that
swing in a high.

Speaker 2 (01:51:17):
Fly ball right center field.

Speaker 6 (01:51:20):
Bernandez back on the truck, Go on, Glin Slim, Madison
Barger blues.

Speaker 2 (01:51:30):
This game wide open nine.

Speaker 5 (01:51:33):
Two Blue Jays in the bottom.

Speaker 2 (01:51:35):
Of the six.

Speaker 4 (01:51:37):
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Speaker 7 (01:52:05):
He called Barger hitting a home run.

Speaker 4 (01:52:08):
He wasn't even in the lineup, and he's like, oh,
he's gonna come up to the plate with bad intentions, baby,
And MLB Network's like, he's not even in the lineup.
What are you talking about right now? Just mark my words?
Sure enough, grand slam in the sixth inning. That was crazy, man,
that's awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:52:24):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:52:24):
I mean, that's just the World Series.

Speaker 6 (01:52:27):
I get it. You know, the Dodgers. It kind of
felt like, well, of course, the Dodgers are their best,
best team money can buy, and the Blue Jays not
necessarily in this country a national darling, but gosh, there
are magical moments every.

Speaker 2 (01:52:42):
Single fall, and baseball delivers.

Speaker 7 (01:52:45):
It's awesome, absolutely all right.

Speaker 4 (01:52:47):
We've got a Rich Hornberger, Penn State All American, Jared
Smith FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian No. Coming up next,
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Speaker 7 (01:53:00):
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Speaker 7 (01:53:10):
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Speaker 4 (01:53:11):
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it never happened. The ones that didn't. You control us endlessly.
That's just how it goes. You know, that's sadly, that's
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Speaker 7 (01:53:41):
You know know like hey man, good angle man, great call.
This doesn't work like that.

Speaker 4 (01:53:45):
You know that would that'd be an American basically, you know,
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(01:54:05):
be as long as you what it is. Time for
rapid fire.

Speaker 7 (01:54:08):
Let's do it.

Speaker 3 (01:54:12):
Rapid fire.

Speaker 7 (01:54:14):
All right, Jared, we start with you. What do you like?

Speaker 5 (01:54:17):
Well, let's go not so rapid fire. And I think
that's what the pace is going to be in this
Minnesota Iowa game, we're going under thirty nine and a half. Shocker,
we're betting an under in an Iowa game. Points at
a premium, guys. This is the Floyd of Rosedale game.
They're giving out one hundred pound pig, not an actual pig,
a bronze pig. That's the statue you win if you
win this game. The last time these rivals played in

(01:54:41):
Iowa City, the final score was twelve to ten. I'm
hoping we get a similar score in this game again.
Painfully slow tempos, both defenses playing well. Minnesota sack Dylan
Royola nine times last week. A little callback to Ferris
Bueller nine times. I was allowing less than three and
a half yards for under thirty nine and a half

(01:55:01):
between the Kiaphers and the Hawkeyes. How about a couple
overs points, points, points, fast tempo here in Baylor Cincinnati,
we're going over sixty seven and a half. Let's get
Lackey with this one. Both teams again top twenty in pace.
I really like this Baylor offense and Cincinnati Brendan Soresby
slinging it a little bit better than I expected this
year from the Cincinnati offense, got Sadderfield has got this

(01:55:24):
team humming a little bit. Soresby Top five and EPA
per play will go over sixty seven and a half
Baylor and Cincy, and in one more over, another fast
versus fast game in terms of tempos. TCU in West
Virginia over fifty five and a half. Another matchup between
two offenses that I think are on the front foot
Josh Ruver probably one of the best quarterbacks in collage
football you've never heard of, and the Mountaineers defense allowing

(01:55:46):
forty three points per game over their last four. I
think it'll be a high scoring affair.

Speaker 11 (01:55:51):
In Morgan County, Okay, LSU is dogged at home during
a night game. This feels like a spot where you
got love the Tigers. Now Texas A and M comes
in and they have a good quarterback and a very
talented mobile offense and a.

Speaker 6 (01:56:08):
Great defense as well. They're a lead up front, but
desperation enters the bowl. Brian Kelly needs this win, and
that's an important factor data point to add to this conversation.
I already mentioned the fact that they're hosting and Death
Valley at night. That's a tough place to win down
there in the Bayou and beware brand recognition. Sometimes when

(01:56:30):
I see spreads like this and they stick out to
me a little bit, I think to myself, like, I
could see this line moving a little bit more in
LSU's Favorite before kickoff, a lot of time for betters
to get on the Tigers wagon. This feels artificially low,
so you get more points if you bet now, in
my opinion. Moving on to Miami, Who's favorite? Twenty nine

(01:56:52):
in a half. They're hosting Stanford. Perfect spot to take
Miami in this one. Here's the reason why they're coming
off an emotional loss. Stanford's coming off an emotional win
and then traveling cross country. Don't overthink this one though.
I'm not going to give you too much more. Stanford
is god awful. They are a bad football team in

(01:57:13):
just about every single metric you can measure by. They're
going to get absolutely smoked on the road in Miami.
Moving on to another team who's going to really struggle.
You have Oregon taking on Wisconsin. Wisconsin's on the struggle bus.
It doesn't get easier. They still have Indiana on their
schedule and they just went through a gauntlet and it's
punctuated by this beatdown that Oregon's about to put on them.

(01:57:36):
I have Oregon favored by thirty one and a half.
Here's the thing. You need points when you're favored by
that many points, and they're going to get them because
they have an amazing quarterback. They have an elite freshman receiver,
they have two great running backs and an elite tight end.
They have everywhere to go with the football offensively. Give
me Oregon, give me the Ducks favorite thirty one and

(01:57:58):
a half.

Speaker 4 (01:57:59):
All right, I'm gonna start off with a couple of props.
Give me Minnesota running back Darius Taylor. I like under
seventy one and a half rushing yards at Iowa today.

Speaker 7 (01:58:10):
As I said and prop it up.

Speaker 4 (01:58:11):
Iowa does a good job against the rush, only allowed
three point four yards per Carrie, not including sacks. Minnesota's
rushing success rate one hundred and third in the country.
And you had Taylor go off last week against Nebraska
rush for almost one hundred and fifty yards. It is
priority number one for Iowa's defense to slow him down.
I'll take Darius Taylor under seventy one and a half

(01:58:34):
rushing yards. Give me another running back. Jared mentioned this.
I'm on the same page. Give me Missouri running back
Ahmad Hardy over eighty eight and a half yards rushing.
He's playing against Vandy today on the road. I mean
I faded him against Auburn's beef and I was right.
You know, Auburn's beef slowed him down. We don't have

(01:58:55):
the same beef with Vanderbilt over there. Their defense ranks
sixty second and yards allowed per rush again not including sacks.
So I think that you gotta get a modd Hardy
going today. He's the engine of that offense. Missouri is
gonna feed him the rock over and over, and I
think that he's gonna find a lot of success. So
I like a mod Hardy over eighty eight and a

(01:59:15):
half yards rushing.

Speaker 7 (01:59:18):
And give me South Carolina.

Speaker 4 (01:59:19):
Give me the game Cocks plus eleven and a half
hosting Alabama.

Speaker 7 (01:59:23):
I like the spot.

Speaker 4 (01:59:25):
Bama with four straight wins over ranked teams. They have
two more games against ranked teams right after this game
against South Carolina. I think it's a like a sleepy spot,
a little bit of a letdown spot. We're getting eleven
in the hook, a lot of talent with South Carolina.

Speaker 7 (01:59:42):
Just try to keep it within eleven.

Speaker 4 (01:59:44):
I think that can be done, so I will take
South Carolina plus the points.

Speaker 5 (01:59:48):
There you go, yeah, nine and zero.

Speaker 7 (01:59:51):
How could it go wrong?

Speaker 2 (01:59:52):
You know?

Speaker 5 (01:59:53):
Well, it's actually eight to oh because rich and Bryn
are on the same pick.

Speaker 7 (01:59:56):
But oh yeah, what do we pick the same as
South Carolina? Carolina?

Speaker 2 (02:00:01):
Yeah? Oh well no, no, I too.

Speaker 6 (02:00:03):
I didn't end up taking them in rapid fire, but
if I had a fourth pick, I would Okay, fair

Speaker 4 (02:00:07):
Enough, nine and oh, so we can't go we can't
go nine and oh, let's go nine and oh

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