FOX Sports Saturday with Kevin Figgers & Adam Auslund talk NFL QB Headlines, Sports Gambling, Team Hate, + Noah Eagle stops by!!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:03):
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Speaker 3 (00:18):
Starting to get comfortable here. This chair is just so squishy.

Speaker 4 (00:22):
Now.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
I may have brought in my own padding and that's
the reason why, But still I love it all the.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Little groove going in that chair. Uh yeah, doing all right.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
We're little comfortable finding our group here on Fox Sports Radio.
Good to be back with you guys on another Saturday
edition of Fox Sports Kevin. I know coming up we
will be talking about the NBA and a gambling scandal
of the ages going on. But before we get to
anything else here, I mean, you know how we start
things off?

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Hege go time, that's wrong, that's right. We got NFL preseason,
NFL preseason week two kicking off on Friday. Its technically
week two or week three? The Hall of Fame game.
Does that count as a week? Was that a week zero?
I don't know, Maybe maybe the Hall of Fame game
was Week zero out there in Canton. I don't know.
Week two officiallys what we're gonna call it here. The
NFL preseason had a couple of games on the slate

(01:12):
on Friday Night, headlined by the number one overall pick
of the Tennessee Titans, cam Ward uh making a second
start of the preseason, and the number is not necessarily impressive.
Three series, two of seven for forty two yards, although
stats can be a little bit deceiving. I don't know
if you saw this, and it kind of went viral,
probably the most viral dropped past you'll ever see Adam Auslin.

(01:33):
But a pass from cam Ward to Van Jefferson perfectly
placed in front of the linebacker or behind the linebacker,
in front of the safety, and Van Jefferson dropped it.
And everybody was going gaga over cam Ward's perfectly placed
pass that was dropped.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Well, I mean, he looked off the defense, he froze
the middle linebacker, he threw it over three guys. Jefferson
should have had it, and outside of that, there wasn't
much else to look at. So yes, his best pass
was dropped in that ballgame, and for me, it's almost
kind of like we didn't even talk about him last week,
did mention him? The Shadeur Sanders effect, It almost it's

(02:08):
a fifth round pick usurping the number one overall pick
in the NFL draft. Like that's how big of a
story Shaduur Sanders was. He's got so much swag, so
much aura, that he could make I guess the number
one pick in cam Ward look as swagless as I do.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
No, to be fair, cam hadn't played quite yet, so
that there was that to go off of it. Look,
Shadu Sanders, because he was the talk, he was probably
even more popular than cam Ward won because of his
dad and all the hypes surrounding him, the draft process,
all of that. It's disappointing that he is extremely unlikely
to play next week or this weekend and probably next
week two in the preseason finale. And so look, we

(02:47):
already knew or assumed that Joe Flacco was going to
be the starting quarterback from day one for Cleveland, but
a lot of people got really gassed up last week
based off of Shaduro Sander's performance that thought maybe he
could potentially push Joe Flacco if he happened to look
good in the last couple of preseason games and so
disappointingly for him, and I guess for some Browns fans
that wanted him to start, that's unlikely to happen.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
I just didn't ever realize that the fifth round pick,
any fifth round pick, could make the number one overall
pick be mister irrelevant. That's not supposed to happen. Shaduur
Sanders made that happen. All the top this past week
was about him, and cam Ward didn't do enough to
steal the spotlight, even though Chaduur's likely not playing later

(03:28):
on today.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Well, one thing cam Ward has done in these first
couple of starts has shown what we talked about in
last week's edition of this show when it came to
Shadur Sanders. He looks like he belongs. He looks like
he can make all of the necessary throws. My issue
is the Titans are missing so much. They have such
a dearth of talent. The cover round there I love
Calvin Ridley, but outside of that, what else do they
really have to work with? And he didn't play to

(03:49):
night no, and nor should he. The issue that you
run into is and look We've seen this with rookie quarterbacks.
Some start and have success from day one, and many
guys come in from day one and really struggle and
either never recover it, or they end up with the
right coaching staff, going to the right situation and they
figure it out. I just wonder right now if cam
Ward and where this Tennessee Titan franchise is currently, If

(04:11):
having him start from day one, which I know the
decisions basically already been made, I just wonder if that's
the best thing for him right now.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
You know how when you got your electronics and you
need to start over, there's a soft reset, and then
there's a hard reset where you hold that button for
like fifteen seconds, thirty seconds. Maybe you're resetting the router.
You just want to clear out the bandwidth or whatever,
so to speak. That's what's happening with the Tennessee title
right now. This is a hard reset going on. They

(04:39):
have some talent, They got guys with potential.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
I mean, Calvin.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Ridley's thirty now, I mean he's not a young guy anymore.
So this is just about what's cam gonna do. Is
he gonna be able to lead them? He's talking about
it he said, I'm gonna speak it into existence. We're
gonna be a top ten offense this season. How do
you feel about that, Kevin.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Guy, I don't think that's likely. Huh, gonna take that
one in Vegas, To be honest with I think Calvin
Ridley might. He has some experience in that, which we'll
get into the next segment. Sir, Oh too soon, sorry,
but my issue is they have a below average offensive line.
They be in the Tennessee Titans that Atlanta Falcons. Despite
some moves they made this offseason in the draft, a
couple of free agents to improve their pass rush, still

(05:19):
not one of the better pass rushes i'd say in
the NFL, and they really got after that Tennessee offensive line.
I wouldn't say Cam Whart was running for his life,
but he certainly had some issues going against a pretty
vanilla defense. He handled it well. But I'm unfortunately, I'm
kind of having visions of David Carr's rookie season with
the Houston Texas. I'm not saying he's gonna get sacked
five thousand times seventy six at all, just analysts just

(05:45):
spitting facts.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
It's amazing how good looking he still is even though
he got sacked that much in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yeah, it's incredible. So I'm not saying that that's going
to happen to him. You just want to avoid shaking
his confidence as much as you possibly can.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Now.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Look, I could be wrong. He can come out and be,
you know, the second coming of Peyton Manning or something.
Who knows. I highly doubt that to be the case.
I just want to make sure that he's set up
to succeed, and I don't know if him starting day
one for this franchise where they currently are, it is
necessarily setting him up to succeed and giving him the
best confidence.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
It's the problem we've see in the past with guys
who are very talented, like Sam Darnold. You get on
a team that doesn't have the pieces around him to
just give him the training wheels to get by until
the game starts to slow down for him, and instead
he starts seeing ghosts early on in his career, which
I think he even admitted to. Now he finally shook
him off seven years later last season with a good

(06:38):
year with the Minnesota Vikings.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
It all came together in that one season. We got
to see if he can carry that over to Seattle.
I don't know if he can do that.

Speaker 5 (06:44):
Well.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
I hope he doesn't carry over that playoff performance he
had against the Rams. It didn't end well.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Yeah, he had a great year and it ended very poorly.
Last game of the regular season two gains the Detroit Lions.
So this is what you don't want guys to be
dealing with, like they're always under pressure even when they aren't,
because early on in their career that's what they were
going through.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah, so it's gonna be interesting to see how this
thing plays out with Cam Warred. Look, the expectations for
Tennessee just as a team are not extremely high, which
is fine, and it's probably good for Cam that he
doesn't have the weight of the world on his shoulders.
It'd be different if this was a deep stack, talented roster.
He was a high draft pick and they are expecting
him to come in from day one to lead them
into the postseason. I don't think anybody realistically expects that

(07:27):
to happen. I just don't want the guy to come
in and get his head knocked off and have his
confidence be shaken and it's a major setback for him.
Or less, we say he ends up getting injured.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
I think maybe what we started within this segment talking
about Shade or Sanders out shining him, upstaging him could
be good for cam Ward because he hasn't done much yet,
no positive or negative. He can kind of fly under
the radar a little bit, even as the number one
pick in the draft by a fifth rounder, somehow out
shining him because he's Dion Son and he's got more

(07:58):
aura than the Dragon.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
I mean, it's just insane.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Shadure Sanders I this week was Shadure Sanders week. Next
week we don't get that gift on Sports talk radio
because he's likely not playing in Game two against Philadelphia.
But that's still a bigger story than I think what
we saw with cam Ward.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Well, it's probably not going to be because the Shadure
Sanders star is gonna fizzle the less and less he plays.
And he's not playing this this weekend. He's unlikely to
play next weekend if you listen to Kevin Stefanski. And
he was already based on reports, fourth on the depth
chart going into last week anyway, And the only reason
he didn't start is because Kenny Pickett and Dylan and
Gabriel were injured. You get those guys back in the fold,

(08:37):
and look, the Browns are not going to succumb to
the public pressure. And because he had a couple of
good drives in the you know, the first half of
last week's game, and say like, oh my god, this
guy's the greatest thing since sliced bread. Let's throw him
in there. He could be the rookie of the year.
It could be all world. They know what they see
in practice every single day. All the reporters who have
covered the Browns said like, hey, he looks solid, but
we're not acting like this guy is gonna be the
franchise savior, at least not this very year.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
Pump the brakes. Yeah, he should have. When he got
those two speeding tickets.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Miles Garrett too got excited. Example, Miles Garrett.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
Every Cleveland Brown is trying to drive away from Cleveland
as fast as possible. That's what it kind of feels like.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
I don't know, Well, Miles Garrett was talking that talk
before he got that became the highest paid defensive player
in history. All of a sudden, it didn't matter where
he played if he did that. At that point. Yeah,
that's true.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
He wanted to be gone until they showed him the money.
But Shador Sanders, Look, you can't lose your job due
to injury, but what if you never had the job
in the first place.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
That's a good point.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
He's only getting set back and losing momentum. These are
valuable reps, even him just missing practices right now. That
is a miserable place to be for somebody who had
a little bit of a spark in Game one.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
He played about as well as you could.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
He had as much buzz as you could get going
up against the Carolina Panthers last week, and now it's
eroding this quickly.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Well, what's it gonna do. It's gonna add to his
legend because if Joe Flacco struggles and gets benched or something,
if Dyland Grabriel gets struggles and gets bent, all we're
gonna have to go off of is that hobb about
four or five drives that he had last weekend. I'll
never forget how good he looked. Yeah, exactly, Adam Austin
leaning right into it, and they said, why could you
push your door in? You see what he did, You

(10:12):
see what he can do.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
He can light a spark, the little devil on the
angel of all the coaches.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Come on, Shador can have made that throw. Oh can't
put him in. Come on, you know what he can do.
He's got the awesome chain flying around. It's beautiful. Guy's
a second coming. Come on with even if it doesn't
look that good, even if he misses the throw, he's
a good looking guy.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Is dion Son? Have some fun with it. I think
Chador's time to shine has uh has faded. I'll put
it this way. If Shadora Sanders sees the field for
the Cleveland Browns this year, there's a problem. Things have
fallen off the rails.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
I'm just being honesty, Stephanie, to take it easy. Right now,
there's a full house of quarterbacks with the Cleveland Browns
right now.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
It's a tough place to be for him. Yeah, roll call.
I just the oblique injury also is more concerning to me.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
He literally hurt himself throwing the football, not his arm,
not his elbow, his obliques, his his abs, and he's.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
More of an ab Browler's trying to say he has
a weak core or something like that. I wasn't going
to go there. Not doing enough sit.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Ups some get some mixing, some planks, Yeah, some Chris planks.
Come on, do something with that, because the problem is
when you hurt yourself throwing the football, you can't even
test it out right now, right because you're afraid you're
going to aggravate it by doing the exact same motion.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
It'd be one thing if it was like, you know,
your left hand or something, which Jordan Love had, like
a left hand injury. They're like, all right, well he
can't hand the ball off. All go ahead and have
a procedure and get it taken care of. U's not
the biggest deal in the world. Sure, Your o bleaks
is literally everything. It's like we have a back issue.
If you're talking about Matthew Stafford. You know you can
wake up one day and turn the wrong way and
throw all your back and be done. Your old bleak
can get up and twist one direction. You can make

(11:45):
it even worse. You can aggravate it. Yeah, alert, that's
a really serious jury. Yeah, exactly. If the old Steph
Curry shoes back in the day, but get up on.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
A bed and fall down the people's shamp This is
all we were talking about last week.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
We're doing it again. We are a guy who's not
even gonna play, didn't hasn't plays, didn't play today, He's
not playing tomorrow, not playing next week, probably not playing
again this year.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
That's how important Shador Sanders is for the movement.

Speaker 6 (12:09):
Man.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
You know, Adam's leading hype train. That's what it is.
Adam wants to see him. He thinks he's prime time.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
I told you my best friend growing up, Mike Tucker,
long suffering Cleveland Browns fane. He deserves some joy. He
has been living in the factory of sadness.

Speaker 5 (12:24):
From one of the headlines on the announcement, starting quarterback, okay, we.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Do have something, I guess from a real starting quarterback,
A guy who didn't play in this game tonight because
he should never have to play in a preseason game again.
That would be Patrick Mahomes, who a lot of people
are kind of piling on.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
This past week for some reason. This why to call
him fat again? I wait, he's fat. That's what some
Kansas City radio host had a couple of weeks ago.
It was right before training came started. Patrick Mahomes had
his shirt off. He was at a party or something,
and he was looking, you know, a.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Little a little pudgy, but yeah, like how Tom Brady looked,
well like a lot of quarterbacks. Look, you know, quarterbacks
generally don't look super cut and super swollen. They do
a lot of plyometrics and make sure that they're pliable
and they could bend and turn. They're not out there
just you know, hitting bench presses, you know, five hundred times.
Tell Shador Sanders that I'm just saying, I Mahomes, I'm

(13:16):
not worried about his appearance in that way.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
No neither am I. I'm worrying about mine.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Now after he gets called fat, it's like, wait a second,
if they're calling him fat, what am I?

Speaker 2 (13:24):
It was like, whoever that radio host was, You line
up and try to run a forty yard dash against
Patrick Mahomes and tell me who wins. Good luck?

Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah, exactly, Well that fat gets his momentum going forward,
like it kind of snaps them forward like a little
rubber band, just like.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Well they old Andre Smith, remember the old offensive tackle
when he was running the forty yard dash with no
shirt and it looked like a lava lamp and people
were just mesmerized. They thought he actually ran like a
four to three When he actually ran like a six
to two, which he was just so mesmerized by him.
Like time, It's almost like time slowed down. I don't
drop acid with a lava lamp anymore. That's that's ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
But people think that Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs could
fall off this year. I want to record us saying
I think the La Chargers are gonna win the division.
I'm not backing off of that prediction. Well, does that
mean you have the Chiefs not even making the playoffs?

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Wellless, I'm not that crazy. Okay, okay, okay. No, I
do think there'll be a wildcard team and they can
go to the Super Bowl and win the Super Bowl
as a wildcard team. But there are enough question marks.
Number One, they went twelve to er last season. Adam,
did you know this? In one score games.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
They twelve on the margins. They got very fortunate in
close ball games. That is not repeatable.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
That doesn't happen. Yeah, that just doesn't happen. Now you
can say maybe they're gonna be a little bit improved
this year and those margins will widen. I don't know
where's the improvement the offensive line. Sure, you drafted Simmons, great,
He's a rookie who, by the way, was injured when
you drafted them, So you don't even really know what
you're gonna get out of them. So is there really
a giant improvement on the offensive line, one of their
biggest weaknesses. I don't think so, that's still kind of

(14:49):
up in the air. Sure, you're gonna have Xavier Worthy
back for one more year. He's gonna be a year better,
Rashi Rice, speaking of driving in legal issues, He's gonna
be suspended most likely at least for the first couple
of game of the season, or excuse me, he won't
be for the first couple of games because, interestingly enough,
the NFL is not going to hold his disciplinary hearing
intol like week four. Huh, And people are like, interesting,

(15:10):
the Chiefs have all their first four contests or nationally
televised Marquie opponents, and you have one of their best
offensive players not going to be having his disciplinary hearing
until after those games are played.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
As one of those games against the Raiders, so he
can pat his stats.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
I don't believe so, No, how dare you? The Giants
are in there though, all right, he said Markey Opponents
yaf the new York Giants are in there.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
So I just think we should put things in perspective
a little bit before we throw dirt on the dynasty
that is the Kansas City Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Strong, but go on.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
We over scrutinize the Chiefs more than anybody, and it's
because of how good they have been and they have
set the standard very high. But we talk about them
like they weren't in the Super Bowl. I know they
got blown out. I know Mahomes threw a pick six
one of his worst games. Wow, was looking like far
of under pressure.

Speaker 7 (15:56):
There.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
It was he was running for his life. It was
no different than the Buccaneers Super Bowl. I don't pin
that on Mahomes.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
I don't either, but some I think there's some recency
bias going on. And that's the last thing they saw
with the Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes, and that's why everybody's
so quick to say.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
The dynasty's over.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
I'm not going there. Patrick Mahomes is thirty or turning thirty.
He hasn't had any catastrophic injury. He didn't do his
acl he didn't do his achilles. He can still move
out there when he needs to because the offensive line
is in turmoil.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
He's fine. I know he didn't get a first place
vote in the MVP race last season because it was
ridiculous to me by the way it was between two.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Guys, Lamar Jackson and Josh Allens split the votes all
of them.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
I get it, and he should have despite the fact
that they were average offensively. The fact that they did
anything offensively at all last year was because of Patrick Mahomes.
My criticism of the Chiefs or skepticism of the Chiefs
because this coming season has nothing to do with him, Well,
you're being reasonable. I'm talking about everybody else, everything around him.
That's the and I don't know if they've improved enough
around him. Look, they're still good enough because Andy I

(16:59):
try Sandy Reid the defensively. I trust the Spagnolo. They
still have Chris Jones, they re signed Carlofcus. They're still
gonna be very good. I think the over under one
wins for them this year is eleven and a half.
I could see them going over. I'm probably because I
picked the Charges to win the division. I'm gonna take
him under. But under is like what ten wins? Okay,
so they win ten games instead of fifteen, like they
did last year or thirteen, whatever it was, and they

(17:20):
don't win the division, their wildcard team and still a
strong Super Bowl contender. I know their margin for error
was slim.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
I think they were something like eleventh when it came
to net rating or points four points against. They won
a lot of close games to get by, and then
they got their teeth kicked in, like Steve Hartman wanted,
dude Petri Stoph Dakas one time by the Eagles in
the Super Bowl. I just think we're talking about a
team that didn't look great and if they improve a

(17:51):
little bit, well they're still in the conversation of being
one of the elite teams even in the AFC.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
You're right, but there's other teams that can improve a
little bit too. Chargers have improved a little bit. I
think Denver's going to improve a little bit. Baltimore is
going to be hungry. Buffalo still has to get that
Kansas City monkey off their back. They're still knocking on
the door, kN yes, this is We're gonna give them. Hey,
as many as it takes. How many chances did the
Colts they have to beat the Patriots before they finally did.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
That's fair but my god, I don't know if being
up twenty one to three at the half like the
Colts were down to the Patriots. Yeah, it is the
way to go about it. I don't think that's how
you have to overcome your demons. I just I'm not
giving up on Patrick Mahomes yet or the Kansas City Chiefs.
I think they're going to figure things out with a
patchwork offensive line with enough weapons around him. And he

(18:40):
started so poorly last season. What the first month he
had eight touchdowns to nine interceptions. It's only up for
here from here right exactly outside of the Taylor's Swift
curse of coming on the podcast with Travis Kelcey, that
may bring things down a little bit. But they've overcome
the curse of her before. They've won like two super
Bowls have since they started. What the curse is over,

(19:01):
they'll it over. There may be a curse going on
in the NBA right now, just.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
In pro sports, in sports, pro sports, college sports in
general right now. There is a.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Problem with those prop bets and they're making it far
too easy to manipulate games. We'll talk about that next
right here on the Finavy takeover of Fox Sports, Saturday.

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Speaker 3 (20:09):
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Speaker 2 (20:12):
The sweets are coming in, Adam. Hit me up, Maya. Yeah,
you know. We have another member of the Patrick Mahomes
fan club along with Adam all right wearing his Pat
mahomes t shirt over there.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Eloy from Compton got to us that follow Adame at
KFIG one, saying, come on, guys, this will be Mahomes'
best season yet. He will finally have Worthy, Hollywood and
Rice together on the field at the same time. And
not to mention a rejuvenated Travis Kelcey. Why is why
is the rejuvenated exactly because the year old, the off
season guys come back fresh.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
I guess he did slim down a little bit.

Speaker 5 (20:43):
Good.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Oh did hey, that's such what I heard.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
So he slimmed down and Mahomes got fat.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
That's according to one Kansas City radio host.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
Yeah, Eloyd does say that Mahomes is thirty five and
five against the AFC West in his career and he
doesn't see that changing.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Here's the thing. His numbers were down the last two years.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
You can also explain it away because he lost a
lot of skill position guys through free agency or because
of injuries. And last season in particular, the offensive line
wasn't tatters.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Again, I'm not spelling the demise of the Kansas City
Chiefs overall. I'm not saying they're going to fall off
the face of the earth and win four games. I'm
just saying there are teams in the AFC and the
AFC West in particular, that have gained some ground, and
I do think the Chargers and the Broncos to a
certain degree, are going to push Kansas City in the
AFC West. I still believe the Kansas City Chiefs are
going to make the postseason. I believe they're going to

(21:33):
be a wildcard team, and I believe they're going to
be a Super Bowl contender coming out of the wildcard round.
So I'm not saying that there are going to be
some terrible organization to fall off the face of the earth.
I'm just saying, like, hey, there's other teams planning too,
and that there might be a couple of cracks in
the foundation. I'm not saying it's collapsing on them.

Speaker 10 (21:47):
All.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
That sounds very rational, very reasonable. I'm very sensible. I'm
also a Raider fan, so they might have something to
do with it. There, it is, That's what I was
looking for, flosure, all right, skit to it.

Speaker 8 (22:00):
Look.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Michael Porter Junior, formerly of the Denver Nuggets, now now
with the Brooklyn Nets, has been very outspoken as of late.
He's really been firing up the podcast, he's doing his rounds.
I almost feel like they had a muzzle on him
in Denver and now he's fully unleashed and he can
say whatever he wants because he's doing a lot of talking.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
He sure is. He's got a lot of opinions about
a lot of things in you probably keep to himself.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Including something he's very close to akin to. That would
be gambling. He spoke about this recently on a podcast.
Here was Michael Porter Junior on One Night with Steiny.

Speaker 11 (22:38):
You get mad at these dudes like they do the
sports betting, but think about it, if you could get
all your homies rich by telling him, Yo, ten thousand dollars,
I'm under. You know this one game, I'm gonna act
like I got an injury and I'm gonna sit out.
I'm gona come out after three minutes and they all
get a little bad because you did a one game
like that is so not okay. But some people probably

(22:59):
think like that. They come from nothing and all their
homies have nothing, and they're like, bro, if I if
I come out of this game after three minutes and
y'all all hit on my under, we're all getting a
little bad, you know what I mean? And I obviously
my brother went through his situation. You know, Malik Beasley's
went through a situation roun now Terry Rozier was in
some hot water. But the whole sports gambling like entity, Bro,

(23:22):
it's it's it's bad, and it's it's only gonna get worse. Bro,
Like we we really do get death threats.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Okay, tim down, he's on the phone for you, is it?
Because that would be timely.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
This part where he's like making it sound like they're
robbing from the rich and giving to the poor, and
that's all they're doing and giving back to their friends.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
And that's why guys are gambling. That didn't sound that bad.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
It's still illegal, it's still completely wrong, but you understand
it though for guys who who do come from nothing,
I like it.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
I certainly understand the argument behind it.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
Here's my problem. That has nothing to do with his brother.
John say Porter got busted. He got busted for fixing
games to pay off of gambling debts. He wasn't doing
it to help out his grammar or anything like that.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
He was doing it to help himself well, and I
think he acknowledged that in the interview too, but he's saying.
This is where it leans into the final part of
his comment when he says it's only going to get
worse because gambling was legalized on a national level or
on a national level, back in twenty eighteen. Since then,
I found ten ten instances of players who have been

(24:32):
suspended or kicked out of a league, whether it's Major
League soccer, the NFL, college football has had a lot
of things come down on guys for gambling on their team,
gambling on just their sport, which they're not supposed to do.
I mean, it's only been legal for a few years
and there's been multiple instances of it happening.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
Just ten still seems low. I'll take the over.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Ten that we know about is the issue, right, That's
the thing.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
I so, first of all, I met MPG one time,
and by met, I mean I was outside of Crypto.
It wasn't Staples, it was Crypto. A few years ago
before the Lakers were complaining about always getting beat by
the Denver Nuggets, the Clippers also lost like eight straight
regular season games to them. Michael Porter Junior, for some reason,
didn't get on the team bus. I'm walking back to
the parking lot to my car. I walk right by him.

(25:20):
They just wiped the floor at the Clippers and I go, hey,
good game, Michael.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
You know what I got back? Nothing?

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Eh, crickets. Oh he actually gave you a guttural sound.
I gave you that I thought was the Geico Caveman
Zeno man or something like. What what was that? That's
all I got? I said, good game, Michael. He had
to know I was obviously working for the Clippers. I
was all suited and booted.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
But and I know, look, leagues try to put certain
protections in to make sure these things don't happen, and
pretty severe bands like there was a Padres player a
couple of years ago who was banned from baseball because
he bet against the Padres on the Padres I believe
Calvin Ritley. We talked about earlier bet on NFL games
when he was out injured and he got suspended for
an entire season. The problem is, I mean, it's no

(26:04):
different than the criminal justice system. People know how severe
the consequences offer certain crimes they commit, but they still
do it, and they do it because they think they
can get away with it. So I don't know if
anything can be punitive enough to stop this from happening
for someone who's desperate enough and someone who thinks they're
clever enough to be able to get away with it.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
Well, Adam Silver through the book at his brother Johntay Porter.
But I can't give much credit for that. What's the
downside of banning a two way G League player from
the league. Oh no, I'm not gonna watch the NBA anymore.
My favorite player, Johntay Porter is gone. Like there's he

(26:42):
did that to send a message to everybody else. But
let me tell you, if somebody major got busted, I
don't know if they'd be banned for life immediately.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
So if this was a multi time MVP Finals MVP,
you don't think that Adam Silver would have the balls
to banned him for life from the league.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
So a bylaw says the penalty for such a fence
shall be within the absolute and sole discretion of the
Commissioner evening commissioner, and may include a fine, suspension, expulsion,
and or perpetual disqualification from further association with the Association

(27:21):
or any of its members.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Pretty vague, intentionally vague, I would say, so. I don't
think the NFL policy is that. I think it's pretty
clear cut. The NFL is ad. I mean there are
multiple teams, the Indianapolis Colts at multiple players at one
point in time. They're all caught up into gambling, gambling
on stats, are gambling on NFL games, and they all
got banned for a season. I think a couple of
them got banned for their entire careers. So there's a

(27:45):
precedent for this happening. Well the Lions is happened with
the Detroit Lions, I think a couple of years too,
where they would play on the line. These are Lions players, Oh,
we're betting on NFL games and they all serve heavy suspensions.
So I think it's kind of clear cut across the
board when it comes to the NFL.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Well, there's a couple guys the NBA has recently dealt
with and somebody else who is still under investigation. One
of them, Michael Porter Junior brought up in that SoundBite,
that would be Terry Rozier. He's being investigated for a
game in twenty twenty three where he left a game early.
And this is what his brother did. He left games early.
So the Unders would all hit under points, under rebounds,

(28:24):
under assists and guys would bet two thousand dollars and
parlay it. So if all these hit unders, they'd win
eighty thousand. They actually got a waste. They got away
with that, they won it, and then as compulsive gamblers do,
they go right back. They double down. Then they bet
eighty grand to win like two million. It worked, but

(28:45):
it red flagged the situation. Then they looked into it,
why are people betting on this kind of obscure player,
And that's how they ended up figuring things out through
phone records and everything.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
So the thing is, if it's not Terry Rogier, if
it's not a John Say Porter, if it's not someone
Maleik Beasley, let's say, if it's someone of note, I'm
not gonna name anybody specifically, well let's just say star
player ex star player. Why and all this money on
these prop bets are coming in and over anunders, you
don't think that it would be a big red flag because, oh,
you bet the over and under on this guy. Anyway,

(29:16):
if it's.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
Lebron James or somebody like that, if it's somebody who's
a top fifty player in the league, it's not going
to look as suspicious. The irregularities aren't going to be there.
That's what they were seeing. That's what they were figuring out,
and that's how they caught these guys and that's why
they're wondering about Terry Rozier.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yeah, I don't know if a star player would really
need to do this, So the chances of one of
them getting caught up in something like this, I think
is extremely low. But I do think it would set
a great example if and when that were to happen,
If an Adam Silver were to say, you know what,
this is setting an example not having a guy that
nobody's ever heard of benning him from the league, who
gives a rip anyway? You know, So the best way

(29:56):
to say an example is, you know what, never I
thought that I would you give a nod to you know,
major League Baseball and anything that they do. But you know,
they banned Pete Rose, who was a he was a
star player who was retired obviously he was a manager
at the time that he got banned from baseball for
betting on games with the Reds that they participated in,
and they stuck to it until this year after he
died and Rob Manferd was like, you know, what's the

(30:18):
time is gone.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
He's gone. Now we'll let him in. It's like, is
that how he put it? I mean it's very delicate.
He put it a little more, you know it is. Yeah,
it is curious the timing of it. Now they finally
accept him in.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Well, he admitted it. He was like, you know, the
time has passed. He's no longer here.

Speaker 11 (30:35):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
He tried to make amends towards the very end of it.
Now that he's no longer here, we're not gonna hold
it against him. We're not gonna hold it against the
Black Sox guys. So we're allowing some of those guys in. Now.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
Let me give you a scenario here because I mentioned
Terry Rozier.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
He's off the hook.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
He's in the clear, he's been investigated, they found no wrongdoing.
But Malik Beasley is a much more interesting case because
it's ongoing right now, and it's very recent.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
And you got a couple of things going on right now.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
He was about to get forty two million dollars from
the Detroit Pistons. He was offered a three year deal
for forty two million that got put on ice. They
still have a roster spot open.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Is that why he can't pay his rent?

Speaker 3 (31:17):
This is an issue and you start to put these
things together and connect gods, It's like, wait a second.
Professional athletes are supposed to go broke five years after
they leave the league, not while they're still in it.
He got evicted from his apartment. So if you're looking
for motive, if you're looking for a guy who's in
dire straits, Malik Beasley who last season also just had

(31:38):
his best year and hit over three hundred three pointers.
Kevin he hit the eighth most three pointers ever in
a regular season.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Wow, it was crazy impressive. He was that good.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
But they're investigating one game that was having some suspicious
betting going on. You tell me if you're wondering about
this too. It happened January thirty, first of twenty four.
He's still with Milwaukee. They're going back to Portland with
Damian Lillard Dame Dalla back in Portland for the first time.
Here's what was interesting and what the Fed's picked up on.

(32:11):
There was a prop bet from Eligue Beasley over under
two and a half rebounds. The line moved from plus
one twenty, so you bet one hundred to win one twenty.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Right to minus two fifty.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
So you bet two fifty to win one hundred because
everyone kept betting on it, so they moved the line
that much.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
Here's the crazy part.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
Everyone bet that it would hit the under because that's
an easier thing to control, absolutely, because you might not
be able to get twenty points, you might not be
able to get ten rebounds, but you can control just
dogging it out there.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Like Michael Barner, Junior's brother was, he can always acknowledge
it as a guard, you know, who just stands on
the outside and shoots like, Oh, I'm gonna get two
three rebounds. Of course not.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
Well, here's a plot twist for you. It was two
and a half rebounds. Guess how many he got in
that game? Zero six?

Speaker 2 (32:59):
Oh, and it.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
Looked like he was crashing the glass hard. Yet this
is the game they're investigating, and it looks like.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
He don't do anything wrong rapping up. Yeah, he went out.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
There and balled out, So what's the problem here. I
think if it's just this one game, he'll end up
being okay, whether or not he actually gets that contract
to forty two million or gets his apartment back.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
I don't know. Well, the greater question as we get
ready to check out here is I don't really know
what these leagues can do to curb this. Because I
will agree with MPJA on this, I don't think this
is going away. As it's legal in many states, it's
going to continue to get legalized in many more states.
Hey let's get a team in Vegas. Now hard to
acknowledge that every like it's legal for everybody else but you,
So it's really hard to look. I can understand that cognitively.

(33:42):
I can understand if I play in an NBA game,
I can't bet on myself. I can't bet on my
sport because I have inside information. But it's really hard
to deny that urge if you know you have that
inside information, and especially if you suspect that you're not
going to be able to get caught. So I don't
really know how there's going to be a way that
any of these leagues can really slow this down.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
Somebody who did get caught with just a slap on
the wrist today would be the University of Michigan. We'll
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Speaker 2 (34:38):
It's Kevin Figures Adam Olson here on Fox Sports Saturday.
The Michigan Wolverines had their punishment levied or on Friday,
Hey Bubb and many people thought, specifically Ohio State fans,
not much of a punishment, soft giant slap on the wrist.
They say, so, look, it doesn't really, it doesn't really,
It doesn't at all effects Michigan on the field, no
postseason bands, They're not losing scholarships. As far as on

(35:02):
field product, that doesn't really hurt them at all, unless
you consider Sharon Moore, the head coach, being suspended one
additional game from the two he was already going to
be suspended for for this season anyway, even those two
games bother me. Well, the issue with that is they
picked the games away he suspended.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
For against the weakest opponents. Correct, Why isn't he suspended
against Oklahoma?

Speaker 2 (35:21):
That's a good question. Oh, it's his alma mater and
he can go back or he coached there previously. What
is That's not how this works. If you're suspended for
three games, you're suspended for the first three games.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
This ain't a velvet hammer. This is like styrofoam. This
is nothing.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
The most punitive are the ten percent penalty, ten percent
of their football revenue, ten percent of their scholarship budget,
and I would say most importantly, one hundred percent of
their potential postseason revenue this season and next season are
all going to be taken away from the University of Michigan.
So I will say it's not going to show itself
on the field for the things that we care about
as fans, But for the athletic department, which from what

(35:53):
I understand, is already operating at a deficit, this is
going to hurt them a little bit. Really, losing ten
percent of football Okay, fine, they can probably deep into
their big deep into their pocket of However, many billions
of dollars of endowment from the non athletic department and
get some money and put it in there like most
of these schools too. Absolutely, But this is a big
reason why a lot of schools say, like, oh, it's

(36:13):
so important that we make a bowl game, even if
it's the toilet Bowl, because we get millions of dollars
for that, and that goes towards the athletic department. So
if Michigan makes a deep run into the postseason, or
even if the Big Ten independent of Michigan makes a
deep run in the college Football playoff, a share of
that money that they will pocket will not go to them.
So it does hurt them at least a little bit financially,
but on the field, there's no effect whatsoever.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
I saw this from Dennis Dodd, and I don't know
if this math checks out or not because I saw
people in his comments correcting him community notes. But he
made it sound like they're not losing more than like
a hundredth of a percent of the school's total endowment.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Oh yeah, I mean athletic departments for all these schools,
especially schools like Michigan. I mean the athletic department in general,
even talking about hundreds of millions of dollars is a
drop in a bucket. So these are billion dollar industries,
these stuff, you know, industries of higher education.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
Donors will come in, they'll handle it right. Michigan will
be flushed with cash. I think the problem everybody has
is is this really gonna deter anybody else from doing
what they did?

Speaker 2 (37:20):
It shouldn't.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
It seems like the punishment's worth the crime in this case.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Like I do understand the NCAA's ruling saying like, we
didn't take any wins away because the players at least
were led to believe the players knew nothing about any
of this. And usually when they're talking about vacating victories,
usually it's about a player taking impermissible benefits. You're playing
with an eligible player, and if a player's ineligible, he
would have direct influence on the game. I would argue, yeah,
like a Reggie Bush situation. Now, I would argue that

(37:45):
the coaches giving information to players based on the premise
that they stole signs and had insight that they otherwise
would not pus gives those players an advantage. And oh,
by the way, this signce stealing scandal allegedly started in
twenty twenty one, which happened to be the very first
year that Jim Harball and Michigan got on this run
of winning three straight Big Ten championships that culminated with

(38:05):
a national championship in twenty twenty three. Jim Harball, people
don't remember. After the COVID season, they only played six games.
He restructured his contract and was on the verge of
getting fired and had he not restructured his contract because
they had been performing so poorly, namely not being able
to beat Ohio State, he was on his way out
the door. All of a sudden twenty twenty one, here
comes Connor Stallions, here comes to sign stealing scandal, and

(38:26):
now all of a sudden, they're averaging eleven wins a year,
making the playoff and winning a championship.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
Now, they said that it didn't affect those later games
in that season when they won to eventually beat the
Washington Huskies, because it.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Was snuffed out I think week five or six of
that year, I believe, and the.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
Big Ten commissioner actually suspended Jim Harbaugh. This was probably
the toughest penalty for some of their biggest games.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
And The belief is he only did it because he
received pressure from a lot of other athletic directors and
coaches within the Big Ten, many of whom kind of
had a suspicion that Michigan was doing some funny business
the last couple of years. Anyway, I don't.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
Know if the penalty is enough to deter other teams,
and I know I don't like the idea of punishing
kids who had nothing to do with it. I also
just don't like the idea of, ah, you got to
write a check to take care of this.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
The issue is, so even if you go back and
try to vacate wins and all that, we all saw
what happened on the field, Like, are we going to
take back what USC dits Oklahoma and the Orange Bowl
because of the official rule books that had got taken away.
We saw what happened. No, they destroyed them.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
I'm fine with not vacating wins without taking away titles.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
I'm good with that.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
But I do wonder if sometimes you got to go
full metal jacket with it and have that collective punishment
policy like they had when Gomer Pyle was screwing things
up for everybody else. And so they had to run
gassers or whatever it was, and eventually with them hitting
them with soap bars later that night, like, well.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
We saw all that in for the rest of them.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
Okay, maybe not the best example there, but sometimes pile
over the edge. People get a little little bit of
a collective punishment because of one individual.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Because it's a team sport. One guy screws up, you
all gotta pay sometimes.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
I don't know, I just think it has to be
stiffer in this well, especially when it's the people at
the highest level.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
The head coach show calls for Jim Harball, which doesn't
matter he's in the NFL, show calls us minor show
calls for Sharon Moore and obviously Kyler Stanions he's out
the door. Kevin figures Adam Alston here on Fox Sports Saturday.
Coming up on the other side, we'll get into the
NFL and quarterback rankings, the quarterback tiers on FSR.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
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Speaker 2 (40:31):
That's right back again, Fox Sports Saturday. Kevin figures Adam Alslin.
Hit us up on x at K fig one is
where you can find me. You can find Adam at
follow Adam A coming up later this hour, we got
a special guest coming up with Week zero of the
college football season start next weekend Adam.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
A Tier one broadcaster, you could say, so you know
it's not us Noah Eagle, oh the young Goat, as
I have branded him, somebody I worked with for four
seasons on the Clippers broadcast. Now you see him on NBCIX,
on Netflix, on Nickelodeon because ubiquitous. Yeah, he's everywhere, and

(41:06):
yes he will be on NBC when the NBA returns
to NBC this fall.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Gotta spread those wings. I guess live up to the name.
He's left the nests. All right, that's unbelievable. All right,
we can stop with the fund so we should get
to that later this hour. But first off, in this
particular hour, we want to talk about the much talked
about Mike Sando quarterback tiers list that was released earlier
this week. It's got people hot. Yeah yeah. It had
a lot of debate Tier one, two, three, four, and

(41:33):
then one player in tier five, which I found interesting,
Which if there's gonna be one player in tier five,
should that even exist at that point? That's kind of cruel.
You're kind of leaving him out there on his island.
Guy's so bad. He's in a tier of his own,
but not in a good way. I mean, I'm not
the biggest fan of Kenny pick It either, but I
don't know if you have to leave the guy hanging
out to dry like that in tier five. But I
guess my big question to you, Adam Alson, is if
we start, I guess in tier one and maybe combined

(41:55):
with tier two, anybody seem out of place for you?
I'll say this one.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
You got Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson.
Nobody's gonna bat night any of those guys being there,
they're all expected.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Oh you stopped. There's one left. I know.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
That's the one guy that I raised a little bit
of an eyebrow with. That would be stat Padford. I
mean Matthew Stafford.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
That's why I got Rob Parker here on FSI. I
might be sitting in his chair.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
He took over my body all of a sudden. I'm
having an out of body experience here at FSR. Matthew
Stafford being in tier one now he's fifth in tier one.
He's behind all those guys I mentioned. I think some
of this just like I mentioned earlier with recency bias
on Patrick Mahomes is also recency bias with Matthew Stafford.

(42:43):
He had an all time playoff game against the eventual
Super Bowl champions in the Philadelphia Eagles that people will
not forget about because of the snow, because of the conditions,
because he bawled out. You let him hang like Justin Turner,
like he was. He was incredible. Three for over three
hundred yards, two touchdowns, zero picks, was under a ton

(43:04):
of pressure, and there was some controversy at the end
where I think he was looking for Puka who may
have been held ball flew out of bounds. Rams lose,
Eagles go on to win the Super Bowl and they
destroy the Chiefs while the Rams game was much more competitive.
Is that influencing people's rating of Matthew Stafford now at
the age of thirty seven.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
Well, maybe I'll mean the way I look at this
and when I get to my I guess hot take
criticism of this list coming up here in a couple
of minutes. I look at the criteria that's being used
and Mike Sandal, by the way of the athletic, who
does a great job. He polled fifty executives in coaches,
So this is not his opinion. This is the opinion
of the people who work in the industry on a
day to day basis and evaluate talent.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
The methodology here is really strong.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Yeah, So a Tier one quarterback carries his team each week,
the team wins because of him, expertly handles pure passing
situations and has no real holes in his game. I
don't know if I can say that one hundred percent
about Matthew Stafford at this point in time. One thing
I'll say is if there is a game here or there,
for four or five games a year where you need
him to throw forty times forty times, he can win.

(44:06):
But I don't know if he can do that consistently.
If this was eight years ago, I might say that
about him. But I think Matt Stafford now needs a
little bit of help. He needs a running game, he
needs a defense. I don't know if he can put
a team on his back, literally because his back is
broken right now, so pun fully intended, he just doesn't
have that right now. He's a good quarterback, and I
think maybe he's strattling the line between Tier one and
Tier two. But maybe you could convince me and talk

(44:28):
me into tier one. But for me, mattzee Stafford at
this point in his career is a Tier two quarterback,
not a Tier one.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
I could put him at the top or near the
top of Tier two and feel really good about it.
I just don't understand he's not at that level with
those quarterbacks who all the guys in front of him
are in their prime right have one MVPs some of
them all.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
But Joe Burrow, who I mean is knocking on the door,
got to a Super Bowl. I mean, he's right there.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
He's number two on this list, and some would make
the argument he is the best quarterback in the NFL.
The defense is the problem there in Sincy. I don't
see him as being one of the peers with those guys.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
But that's okay.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
He's good, just very good, and the Rams without him
they might not make the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
So that I will give you so the part of
the criteria where he says the team wins because of him.
If Jimmy Garoppolo is the starting quarterback for seventeen weeks
for the Rams this year, uh oh, the ceiling is
much lower, to say the least for the Rams versus
Matthew Stafford. So for that reason alone is why I
can maybe bend a little bit and say, okay, you
can kind of put him in Tier one.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
It's like if I try to fit into a dollhouse,
the ceiling is.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
That low exactly. Now here's my issue from Tier two
the defending Super Bowl champion Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts a
Tier two quarterback, can carry his teams sometimes but not consistently,
can hander pure passing situations in doses, or possesses other
dimensions that are special enough to elevate him above Tier three. Now,
maybe if you want to argue he possesses the skill

(45:57):
set with his legs to be able to beat you
to elevate him out of Tier three because he's not
a great passer, Maybe I don't think so. Because the
Tier three criteria is basically a guy who needs help
from his defense and help from his running game, and
based on those things elevates his individual play and can
help you win, which is basically what Jalen Hurts did.
And if you go back to the first four games

(46:18):
of last season, when Jalen Hurds did draw back and
throw the ball a lot, it did not yield positive
results for the Eagles. It wasn't until they leaned more
into Sakuon Barkley and ran the ball more and took
the ball out of his hands that they actually started
to floorish offensive. So this is interesting.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
I thought we were on opposite sides here, but I
guess we're fully aligned. You think he's rated too high,
being the ninth ranked quarterback overall here and being in
Tier two, you.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Think you should be in Tier three. I will make him.
I will put him at the top of Tier three,
and I would not say he's a Tier two quarterback
based on this criteria.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
No, I think he's too high in this way. I
think he's very situational. I think the circumstances have to
be just right. He's not a plug and play guy,
and that's no disrespect. He's perfectly suited for what the
Philadelphia Eagles do, where he can show off how dynamic
he can be. But as you mentioned, he needs that
running game, he needs a strong defense, and you look.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
I mean, he almost had.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
As many rushing touchdowns last season thanks to the tush
push as he did passing touchdowns. I don't think he
can carry you. I don't think he can throw you
to victory. I don't think he's going to go, hey,
we're down by twenty when you do go for three
hundred and fifty yards in this ball game. He's not
built like that. It's just different. It doesn't mean he's
a bad quarterback, but there is part of his game

(47:31):
that can feel a little gimmicky to me. The Toush
push is gimmicky. They almost outlawed it. You have to
acknowledge that Usuly I understand everybody else can do it.
Nobody can do it like they can, so that's fair
to leave it in there. But I just don't know.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
It's interesting.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
He was actually rated higher on this list I heard
in twenty twenty two when they lost the Super Bowl
to the Chiefs, based upon people thinking projecting out that
he's going to get better as a pass and now
that you're seeing that's not happening, he's actually lower ninth.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
On the QB list here. Yeah, is there right anybody
else here that stands out? Because honestly, the way the
tiers shakeout after that, I really don't have much of
an issue with anyone. I kind of went back and
forth on brock party, but I do think brock Party.
I do think he's Tier two. I've seen him in
games where he's had to stand back there and throw
the ball a lot and be effective. Now he's someone
who is in the right offensive system with the right

(48:25):
offensive talent, which I think is going to be interesting
this year considering where the forty nine ers are, how
top heavy they are losing Deebo, Samuel Juwan, Jennings's contract situation,
Brandon Ayuk is going to be out at least until
week six, So now we're going to see exactly how
elite quote unquote brock Party actually is.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
He's going to be asked to elevate guys around him
much more than he ever has. He is the last
guy in tier two. He's number fourteen on this quarterback list.
I actually think Kevin he could be maybe a little
bit higher, just because, like you said, he has some
intangibles and has made a lot of winning throws. When
they went to the Super Bowl almost outdueled Patrick Mahomes,

(49:02):
I know in overtime he missed on a throw that
he wishes he had back, just like Garoppolo did against
KC like three years before that, And there's some similarities
between those two guys. But Rock Party is better and
he was top five in MVP voting in twenty twenty three,
So I think there's more to his game and it's
less situational or he has to have this level of

(49:22):
talent around him. I believe he can scale up a
little bit. I think he is going to have a
good season. He's still I think twenty five or twenty
six years of age. Can you win a game on
his arm?

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Maybe here or there? I think you can.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
I don't think that's, you know, something that that can't happen.
We'll find out soon and I think it's gonna be
really interesting. But that's one guy I might move up
just a little bit now. Jordan Love I would say
has much higher ceiling than him, But I don't know
if he's proven more than Brock Purdy at this point.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
No, he's not.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
He's right in front of him Dak Prescott. You know,
if anything, we've gotten a lot of tape on Dak
Prescott and it ain't pretty well, especially in games that matter.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
I'll put it that way. Yeah, he's two slots ahead
of Rock Party. I might put Brock.

Speaker 3 (50:04):
Ahead of him, especially, I don't know Brock Party just
got paid now too. I was gonna say when the
contract that Dak has, but I just think there's more
there to tap into. We kind of know Dak Prescott's
a bit of a finished product.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
No Rock Party, Proud Iowa State cyclone and they kick
off week zero against Kansas State, coming up next weekend
and coming up next year. On Fox Sports Saturday, we'll
talk college football, among other things with a great Noay
Eagle of NBC Sports. That's Fox Sports Saturday with Kevin
Figures and Adam Austlin. Oh, maybe Mama's Mama's a good
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(50:35):
here on Fox Sports Radios. Kevin Figures, Adam Alstom with
you guys on Fox Sports Saturday. Hit us up on
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we mentioned, we've been talking a lot of football tonight
this morning, depending on where you may be listening across
the Fox Sports Radio network and coming up here right now,

(50:57):
we have one of the voices of college football. Oh
the NFL in preseason and the regular season. Also the
return of the NBA on NBC coming up this fall
as well. Let's get to it at him.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
Alan Drankan did.

Speaker 11 (51:10):
Thank you, Donny.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
BA.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
BA Basketball with Noah will come in this fall back
on NBC. Yes, Nostalgian merchants from the nineties rejoice as
round Ball Rock is back on the Peacock on NBC.
And speaking of back, it's the cock of the Lock,
the man who will be calling all the games and
I mean all of them, whether on the hardwood or

(51:36):
on the field right now for the NFL preseason. He's
coming back of course, also of the Big Ten Saturday Night.
Not to mention you've seen him on Netflix for Christmas
Day NFL games with Queen Bee and on Nickelodeon's NFL
Games with the King of the c King Neptune and
all the SpongeBob characters. It's the return of the young Goat,
Noah Eagle back now on the f and a takeover

(51:57):
of Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
Noah, how are we doing, my friend?

Speaker 5 (52:01):
Yeah, Adam, I'm just glad that you committed, because I
every time I hear round Ball Rock, I think Tim
Robinson has completely skewed my viewpoint and all I want
to do is getball. So it's going to be hard,
I think when I actually have to be professional and
I can't do that during the intros of our games.
But excited that we can do it now and we

(52:21):
can get ready for some fantastic seasons ahead. Appreciate you
guys having me on.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
We'll get into the NBA in just a little bit here,
but you're on the call later today for the Battle
of LA. It's a preseason edition Chargers and Rams. You know,
we talked about it a little bit last Friday night,
but it feels like nationally the Rashaun Slater news has
flown a little bit under the radar. Just how backbreaking
that could be of a blow to the Chargers. Is

(52:46):
Jim Harbaugh going to be able to shuffle things around
to overcome this, Yeah, I think that's.

Speaker 5 (52:50):
Why you have depth. And the Chargers made sure that
they heft their death. I think that's the key word
in all of this, because they could have made some
decisions and try to shed some salary to maybe go
after some of these big weapons that are available, but
instead decided to keep guys like Jamari Sallyre on the roster,
making sure that they could retain Trey Pipkins, and so
now you've got a top five pick last year and

(53:12):
Joe all too. Offensive coordinator Greg Roman has gone on
record and he told us as well that he is saying,
hands down, this season all pro. He's that level. We
talked to Joe this week. You can tell the maturity
is different, his body is different. And the biggest thing
he said is last year, going into his rookie year,
there was so much just getting ready for the combine,

(53:33):
getting ready for the pre draft process, and it cuts
out months of work of what you actually want to
do on the field. And so he feels he's much
more prepared and he's going back to his natural position
of left tackle, which is what he played his entire
career at Notre Dame. And Trey Pipkins has proven to
be a starting caliber tackle in the NFL. And then
you look at the rest of the offensive line. You

(53:54):
signed Mackay Beckt into a two year deal coming off
a Super Bowl victory with the Eagles last year, really
flourished in his new position at guard over the last
year plus. Dian Johnson was a first round pick in
twenty twenty two for a reason, and Bradley Boseman is
as cerebral as it comes at the center position. So
to me, they still have the depth. Sure, and everybody's

(54:15):
been honest. You can't just replace a guy like Rashaun Slater,
who's arguably at his peak the best left tackle, if
not at minimum top three in the NFL. But with
all and then everybody else that they at least retain
on that depth part of the offensive line, they feel
comfortable with what they're going to roll out Week one, the.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
Great no Ego joining us here on Fox Sports Saturday.
Kevin figures Adam Alson with you to stick with the
Charges for one more before we get to the big
ten coming up this season. I've been on record as
saying that I think the Charges are going to unseat
the Chiefs in the AFC West this year, and people
have called me crazy. I even said that after the
injury to Rashaun Slater. What is your outlook on the
AFC West this year? Knowing that you're in year two

(54:54):
with Sean Payton and Bo Nicks there, people are high
on them, the Raiders turning things around potentially with Pete Carroll.
We know where the charges are. Jim Harball and obviously
the King of the King of the Roost has been
the chiefs for the last decade. How do you see
the AFC West shaking out there? Noah, you're crazy.

Speaker 5 (55:08):
No you're not, You're very much a sane human being.
I would tell you that this division and the NFC
North to me are the most intriguing because of the
depth of the division, and really it feels like it's
up for grabs. And again you can make that exact argument, well,
nobody's been able to dethrone Kansas City for a long time.
But it just feels like now all four teams are

(55:30):
on at least a fairly similar plane with what Vegas
has done getting Gino Smith and Pete Carroll in there.
And we've seen obviously what they're capable of together from
a couple of years ago in Seattle, and I'm curious
as to what the year two bone Nicks experience will
look like in Denver. But we know Sean Payton is
an absolute mastermind offensively, and we saw what he did

(55:52):
with him as a rookie last year. Their defense somehow
might have even gotten better with the pieces that they added,
and the offense should in theory take another step forward
he's got a brand new rookie running back that I
think Sean Payton won't stop talking about, and that's usually
a good sign. But the Chargers feel like they got
all the pieces as well. And what we've seen through
his coaching career is year two with Jim Harbaugh, they

(56:14):
take a step and look. Year one in San Francisco,
they went to the NFC Championship Game. But year two
they went to the Super Bowl. And I think that's
where everybody here in Los Angeles feels, Okay, it's Harbaugh.
He's got his full fingerprints on it. He has all
his players. Now. These are the guys that he has
hand picked along with GM Joe Hortiz, and you give

(56:35):
him a lot of credit. And the moves similar to
what they've done now in the last year of trading
Keenan Allen for a fourth round pick that turned into
Lad McConkie and Targeme Still, and then bringing back Keenan
Allen for nothing on a one year deal this year.
And you've got these two guys and Alan mcconkee who
get opened so quickly off the line that you combine

(56:58):
that with your rookie first round take amaro on Hampton.
One of your key free agent acquisitions in Najie Harris
is a one to two punch out of the backfield.
An offensive line has mentioned even without Slater that's going
to be in the top echelon of the NFL. You
bring in Tyler Conklin at tight end, You draft a
young tight end in Aronde Gatstan who they have high
hopes for. Two rookie wide receivers that have really outperformed expectations,

(57:22):
certainly KeAndre Lambert Smith. So far through this preseason in
training camp, it just feels like they've got everything offensively
and defensively. I think Jesse Mintor, the defensive coordinator, is
a name that a lot of people are going to
be hearing for a long time because at some point,
very soon he's going to get a head coaching job.
He's that level of brain and more than anything, he's
that level leader. And you see it and I think

(57:44):
now it's time for third year players to really step
up and become stars, and that's what they expect. Dayon
Henley had a career year last year. He could be
even better this year. Two Lee Twoy below two could
have a chance now with Joey Bosover in Buffalo to
explode and really become how whold name and it's a
lot of syllables for people in households to have to name,
but they'll be ready when the time comes. So it's

(58:06):
an exciting time for the Chargers. But as mentioned, division
stuff and Patrick Mahomes still exists, so that is a
difficult task for anybody.

Speaker 11 (58:15):
No.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
You go on the call later today with Dan Fouts
for Chargers and Rams in Los Angeles. One last question
for you regarding the NFL here in Noah. Matt Stafford.
It sounded like he worked out last week, there were
no limitations on his throes, but feels like he's regressed
a little bit now and he's going to do another
workout on Saturday. How long do you anticipate Matt Stafford
being out here?

Speaker 5 (58:36):
Yeah, I don't know, And I think that's kind of
the concern right now surrounding the Rams. Obviously, when Stafford
is there and Stafford's healthy, with the defense that they
put forward last year and now adding what they did
with DeVante Adams coming in offensively, there's a reason to
believe that this team is going to run away with
their division this year. If everything's in place, but if

(58:56):
Stafford's not healthy, and now you've got to wonder, first
of all, Jimmy g he hasn't even been healthy himself.
Are you going to be Stephan Bennett football team out there?
It's a tough proposition for a team that, in theory,
should run away with their division. Now we don't know
what the Niners are going to look like this year,
so that is a big question mark. And if the
Niners can get back to what we're accustomed to seeing

(59:17):
out of San Francisco, that changes things. But the Rams
are sitting pretty well right now if Stafford is a
good go, but it's just a question mark, and I
think that's obviously reason for pause. At the same time,
we've seen Matt Stafford play through event's pain. We've seen
how gritty and tough he is and how great he
can be even when he's nowhere near one hundred percent.

(59:40):
So knowing him, he's going to do whatever it takes
to get back there and make sure he's ready to
rock for Week one. It's just you can't bank on
anything at this point, and I think that's the concern,
whether you're a Rams fan, whether you're a part of
the organization. So It's a wait and see game, which
is never where you want to be at this stage
of the offseason.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
So noad you guys first brought cast for the Big
Ten on NBC this year. I believe you have Illinois,
who's gotten a lot of hype so far this offseason.
Ranked in the top twenty five against Western Illinois. What
are your thoughts on the line I coming into this year.
I think they're a twelfth in the ap Brett Bilima.
People think they have a legitimate shot of making it
to the playoff. They're usually the hunter, not the hunted.

(01:00:19):
Now with the top fifteen ranking, a lot of people
think they can make some noise this year and be
legit playoff consentder What say you, yeah, our crew.

Speaker 5 (01:00:26):
Won't be there. I know. I think it's earlier in
the day, but we've got plenty on Illinois. We got
to see them last year, actually the last couple of years,
and they are awesome. Brett Bielima, let's start there. I
think that his coaching career has been fascinating. You go
back to what he did to Wisconsin and he was
so great, goes to Arkansas and he did have a
couple of good years at Arkansas before the wheels kind

(01:00:46):
of fell off, and I think a lot of people
forgot the type of head coach that he's capable of
and what he can do when he's got his type
of guys, and realistically, he is a Big ten football coach.
And I think that's what we've seen, is he's come
in there, he's changed the identity of the Illinois program,
and there's a reason that there's a lot of optimism.

(01:01:07):
And I think that starts with Luke alt Meyer at quarterback.
It's a guy who now is in his third year
as the starter at Illinois. That's just a big deal
now in college football to not just be a three
year starter, to be a three year starter at one program.
There are only a couple a handful of teams that
have that. Certainly in the Big Ten, Penn State is
one of them. And Penn State's one of the few

(01:01:28):
in the entire country that people believe are a legitimate
national championship contender. They were nearly ranked number one in
this preseason poll, ranked two in the AP pole because
Drew Aller's back at quarterback. I think if you have
an unknown at quarterback, like so many of the other
schools in the Big Ten do Ohio State, Michigan, Oregon.
These are all unknown for the most part at quarterback.

(01:01:49):
That's why they're not ranked even higher than they are.
They're all top fifteen teams, but they're not number two
like Penn State. And I think that's why Illinois is
partially ranked a high as they are, because Goltmeyer had
a fantastic season last year, really took a step forward
protecting the football. So you've got that feel and really
more than anything, you've got that understanding that more above

(01:02:13):
all else are, you're just going to have competent play
at quarterback and probably above average play at quarterback. That's
a huge step one. I think Step two is what
happened last year that didn't happen two years ago. Is
Aaron Henry, a defensive coordinator, one of the youngest defensive
coordinators in the country, really found his sea legs. He's
this very upbeat, positive man and players love him. He's

(01:02:36):
a player's coach. He used to be a player himself,
played for Brett Bielima, and I think he figured out
how to do the job. He got thrust into that
position two years ago when Ryan Walters left after leading
the top defense in the country to go to Purdue
as the head coach, and that first year, I think
Aaron Henry was just trying to figure out, how do
I call a game defensively, how do I make this

(01:02:58):
happen so that our defense can thrive? And he figured
that out year two, and so now you go into
year three with him as your defensive coordinator, and you
feel like this defense has a chance to be one
of the best in all of college football. And then
the last part I'll say is their offensive line. They
return enough upfront, And to me, that's always the barometer
for success of a college football team. It's how many

(01:03:20):
starts do you have upfront returning The teams that have
a lot generally have a lot of success, and the
teams that don't generally struggle. Certainly early in the season,
Illinois got enough upfront enough experience that they should be
going out there and feeling confident about protecting their vet.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
Noah Eagle, the Voice of the Big Ten on NBC,
joining us here on Fox Sports Saturday, Kevin Figures and
Adam Ausland with you guys. You mentioned Ohio State and
having to replace a quarterback, but they have a lot
of positions they need to replace on their team this year,
still ring third in the AP and I don't know,
maybe they're getting the Alabama treata because they have so
many good recruiting classes, They have so much talent. They
look good coming off the bus. There's a lot of

(01:03:57):
question marks arounding that team as far as how good
they can actually be. We know they have the talent,
but it takes more than that. You also have Matt
Patricia coming in as a defensive coordinator for the first
time at the college level. Are you as gung ho
on Ohio State this year as a lot of the
pundits are, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:04:11):
I mean it's obviously a big if Kevin and that
big if is going to be the quarterback position. If
Julian Saying is who we expect him to be, then
they could win the national championship again this year because
I think you could argue they have the two best
players in college football, number one being Jeremiah Smith, who
has a true freshman last year. Everybody said all the
whatever you want to call them, the quote unquote experts

(01:04:35):
would tell you that last year is a true freshman.
If he was eligible for the NFL Draft, he would
have been the number one overall pick. He was that good,
and he is that good. He's just physically monstrous, and
he does things on a football field that you just
don't expect to ever see. And he was doing it
at eighteen nineteen years old. So as a teenager coming back,
he's the best player in college football. And I think

(01:04:56):
the second best player in college football. You said Alabama,
it's the transfer who was there last year in Caleb Downs.
He is going to be a problem in the NFL
when he gets there. In the defensive secondary, is a
safety just so good. He's just so good at recognizing
where the football is, attacking angles, finding just things you

(01:05:16):
don't see. He is a stud. And so if you
have those two guys alone, they're playmakers. And if you
have playmakers at that level on both sides of the ball,
you are always going to be putting yourself in a
good position to be successful. The other thing is they
had so much death last year that a lot of
the guys who are coming back maybe weren't the quote
unquote stars, but they were still getting quality reps and

(01:05:38):
quality snaps in big moments. David and Nigguinos, who was
a starting quarterback. He's back, Lorenzo Styles is back, You've
got Caleb Downs as mentioned, Sonny Styles is back at linebacker.
These are all guys that played big, big amounts of
snaps last year on their run to the National championship.
Same with Kenyatta Jackson Junior. I would say offensively, you

(01:06:00):
could talk about Jeremiah Smith and what he's capable of,
and I certainly love to, but Carnell Tait is somebody
who's taken massive strides. Brandon Innitts has taken strides at
wide receivers. You've got multiple options there. And then they
got a transfer running back who I love from West
Virginia and CJ. Donaldson who was a stud as a
freshman and has only gotten better and better. So again

(01:06:20):
comes down with Julian saying is that guy and if
he is man, that team's gonna be good.

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
I'm still laughing about everybody wanting coach Blackbear fired last
year before Ryan Day led them to the National Championship.
The reason they wanted him fired was because he lost
to Michigan again. Obviously, big news coming out earlier today
Noah talking about suspensions, fines, but title not vacated. They're
not going to be I guess, taken away from being

(01:06:46):
eligible from postseason action anytime soon. Was this kind of
the punitive measures you expected to come down with Michigan
from the NCAA.

Speaker 5 (01:06:55):
For the most part, I think I was glad that
the wording that they used that thought was important. I
was glad that they said the reason that there was
no postseason ban is they didn't want to punish the
players who are there now. And that's always my issue
with any of these and I think the NCAA has
been very clear now that they're trying to avoid that.
But with any of these penalties going against current players

(01:07:19):
that had nothing to do with maybe previous infractions, now
they're at least recognizing, hey, we can't punish the players.
We can't put them in a bad position. Sure, coaches
and people who have been there, and Sharon Moore got
an additional game at it to his already self imposed
to game suspension in weeks three and four this year.
But I'm glad to see at least the players will

(01:07:41):
be taken care of and it keeps Michigan in a
place because at the end of the day, college football
is better when Michigan is relevant. And good in the mix,
and so it keeps them in a place that they
can still be that while having to feel some of
the consequences of maybe some action.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
What do you think about the Cold War standoff? When
it comes to the expansion of the player off between
the Big ten and the SEC. We know the SEC
wants the five conference winners plus eleven at largers. Big
ten wants the automatic bids for themselves, the SEC acc
Big twelve and the three at largees. What do you
think is the compromise here? What do you think is
the best solution for what a sixteen team college football
playoff may end up looking like?

Speaker 5 (01:08:17):
Well, what I think is the best solution is the
solution we're currently at.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
Let's start there, all right.

Speaker 5 (01:08:22):
I think what we had last year, I think if anything,
it proves why would we want after the first round
games we had last year, which were all blowouts, Why
would we want more of that? Why are we adding
more of that? I just feel like we should stick
with this until we outgrow it. We haven't outgrown it yet. Now.
I understand why the Big ten and the SEC want
what they want, And at the end of the day,

(01:08:44):
you're trying to do the best for your conference, and
Tony Pettiti is going to have to do the best
for the Big Ten. Greg sank is gonna have to
do the best for the SEC. Both of them would
want the four automatic qualifiers, four automatic bids coming from
their conferences. And the argument is valid because those are
the two conferences in college football, and so they cannibalized
themselves to a certain degree. But at the same time,

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we look at last year and the Big Ten Ohio State,
Penn State, Oregon, and Indiana, that's four bids. The SEC
had plenty of representation in the College Football Playoff, and
so I think the reason I say it is with
a twelve team playoff that we currently have, it gives
the opportunity for a group of five school like Boise State,

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who earned their trip to the College Football Playoff last year.
It gives an opportunity to an independent like Notre Dame,
who obviously earned their trip all the way to the
National Championship Game last year. I think the biggest change
which is coming this year is in the seeding, which
clearly was an issue last year, where you have an
undefeated thirteen and oho Oregon team is the number one
seed and their reward is a bye week to have

(01:09:48):
to face a red hot Ohio State team. That's just
that didn't work out. But now you recede in the
sense of, hey, best teams are going to get the
buys and you go from there. It's not the automatic
buy if you win your conference. I think that's better.
But I don't know if we need to go to
sixteen yet. Why don't we see twelve out, see what
that looks like, and then we can reassess it. We
feel like it's not working.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
No last one here for you.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
The last time I was watching the NBA on NBC,
I was watching my Sacramento Kings getting screwed by the
Lakers in the two thousand and two Western Conference Finals. Yet,
and yet I am still excited about the NBA's return
to the Peacock. Can you give us a little bit
of a sneak peek behind the scenes of just how
excited the broadcasting network is to have the NBA back. Well,
we can look forward to obviously, the schedule was released

(01:10:33):
this week. Are we going to have obviously with the
All Star Game back, that awesome tracking court side shot
that really shows off the speed of the game.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
What's it going to be like back on NBC.

Speaker 5 (01:10:44):
Yeah, I would love it. We could go back. If
you remember those court side shots, everybody's actually wearing their
own jerseys on top of it, so I love that.
I always found that was great. On top of that,
if you mentioned, oh two, the last time it was
on NBC, the last game on NBC was when my
new jersey next got swept by those LA Lakers and
we were hoping for the Sacramento Kings for what we

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hoped would have been a great series. But all that
to say, we're just pumped. I don't think there's enough
superlatives to describe how excited we actually are to be
back in the fall, be back in the mix. It
is going to be a fantastic season, All Star Weekend
and into it Dome. There's just so much to look
forward to. In February in general on NBC is going
to be monstrous. We've got the Super Bowl in Santa

(01:11:27):
Clara leads right into both All Star Weekend and the
Winter Olympics in Milan, so all within a ten day
or so period. You're just going to have NonStop sports
from super Bowl to All Star Weekend to Olympics, all
at the same time. So it's going to be just
obviously chaos, but at the same time the best type
of chaos. And we are so pumped to be back

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on the hardwood at this type of level. So it's
just going to be really an honor to be a
part of it because it is such an iconic franchise,
and so the hope is we can now build on
what was already built from nineties and early two thousands.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
Oh, I thanks you killing you just dunked on Tom
mccolor again. Sorry about that. The Great No Eagle joining
us on Fox Sports Saturday. Hear him call the Big
Ten games on NBC, calling NFL games on Christmas Day.
He is all over the place. There's seventeen jobs that
know what Eagle has and if there's an eighteenth available,
best belief, he's taking it and he deserves it. The
Great NOA. Eagle, thanks so much, brother, much appreciate it.

(01:12:23):
We'll talk to you soon.

Speaker 5 (01:12:24):
You got it, guys. I'm on my way to do
Little League Judo actually later today after the Chargers game.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
So sweep the leg. Sweep the leg, bro, that's great.
Appreciate it, man, that was the best.

Speaker 5 (01:12:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
I like that guy.

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
A lot.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
I miss him, I worked with him, I knew him win.

Speaker 3 (01:12:42):
For four straight seasons with the Clippers that all ended
in disappointment, Yet was never disappointed next.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
To no Ego, Well, you know what, you gave him
his wings at him, then he has to fly away. Yeah,
had a fly to be with the fellow bird, the peacock.
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Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
Well Stranger than Fiction last week, we had some geek
news for you this week in Stranger than Fiction, two
words zombie Rabbits. You're listening to Fox Sports Saturday with
Kevin Figures and Adam Auslin. It's the f and a
takeover of fsr F.

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And a Oh Figures and Adam I get it, love it,
Yes it is Kevin Figures and Adam also and back
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talk about the teams we love to hate. But first,
a fast.

Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
Food customer defending Perticison called nine one one after her
McDonald's run out of McNuggets.

Speaker 12 (01:14:19):
Strange.

Speaker 7 (01:14:20):
He can't give that drunk man riding a horse at EWI,
he goes.

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
Unlike cards.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
Worges don't have motors.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
They have a mind in their own strange things.

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
Twenty four year old man now Jesus throwing an alligator
through a drive through window. You are stanenge Fi all right, Kevin,
It appears Elmer Fudd has met his match. Now we're
not exactly George Norri. Uh, this is not coast to coast,
although we are on nationally. That's right, but we do

(01:14:51):
like to talk about cryptozoology, cryptids once in a while,
the hidden animals that may or may not exist.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
In fact, we know a Bigfoot expert first hand.

Speaker 3 (01:15:01):
I wanted to say that chup of copper is real
to me, as long as you believe, right, David Magdaleno.
We have on speed dial just in case there's any
breaking news involving Bigfoot. There won't be because we have
game trail cameras everywhere now and while they catch all
kinds of animals in the Pacific Northwest, weirdly, Bigfoot always
seems to avoid them.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
No, they got this since since or radar food. That's
how they can avoid it. They're alien's full.

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
Yeah, crazy, how there's this huge creature that we can
never seem to catch on camera in four K and
then have narration from Sigourney Weaver or something like that
on a weird episode of Planet Earth. Speaking of have
you seen Alien.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
Earth that just came out? I have not know what
are the early returns.

Speaker 3 (01:15:44):
I'm kind of excited, probably too excited really, I'm getting
my hopes up again. It's the showrunner who did Fargo,
and Fargo's a great show, not just a great movie
by the Cohen Brothers.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
Never saw the show, did see the movie. That movie
is excellent.

Speaker 3 (01:15:55):
The show's got four or five seasons and they're great.
And that guy's doing Alien Earth. So yeah, I'm probably
way too excited. Anyways, recently we did catch something that
represents the type of creature you would see in like
a demented web series from the early two thousands.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
Remember Happy Tree Friends. I can't say that, I'll do.
We'll check it out.

Speaker 3 (01:16:16):
It was a weird, brutal cartoon. But in Denver, Colorado,
they're finding some aer rabbits, some thumpers that will thump
you real good. The rabbits with horns on them. Some
are calling them Frankenstein rabbits, others demon rabbits. Some call
them zombie rabbits. I prefer horny rabbits, since you know

(01:16:38):
there is that phrase blank like rabbits and breed a lot.
It kind of makes sense the reason for their affliction.
Though they're technically not horns, they're actually warts that grow
out outwardly, so they end up looking like horns. These
rabbits apparently picked up a virus in Denver. It's called
the shoppy popaima virus that I guess has been known

(01:17:01):
about and studied since the nineteen thirties, and the appearance
of these rabbits probably inspired the jackalope, which is a
mythical creature that's a cross between a jack rabbit and
an antelope.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
Well, that's an interesting mix. Those aren't real. It's not funny,
but they aren't real.

Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
But these Denver Colorado rabbits with horns like warts are.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
Hey, what kind of vertical vertical jump does that have?
The antelope and.

Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
The rabbit they got a little bit, they got a
little howards like bounce. Amazing, they got flubber.

Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
That's animal I can get behind right there.

Speaker 3 (01:17:30):
Here's the thing you need to know if you're concerned
about our furry friends. The virus is spread by ticks
and fleas, usually in the summer, which is why we're
talking about it now. But it cannot spread to other animals,
so you're not gonna get like, I don't know, a
dog with horns on it or anything like that. You
don't not worry about that yet. But the bunnies eventually

(01:17:53):
fight off the virus and return to their cuter cuddlier
forms after their immune system kicks in and they don't
end up looking like the rabbit that was scary from
Donnie Darko or anything like that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
Yeah, do you believe in time travel?

Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:18:07):
It's still crazy to me seeing a rabbit with horns
on it, even though it's wartz. That's even worse. They
look very infected. It looks like the end of the world.
This seems like Patient zero outbreak type stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
So these rabbits are not going to jump up and
attack you.

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
No, Nor are they sexy rabbits like Jesse for Rabbit
or Lola the Bunny from Space Jam, which is like
that's the new knotty nurse uniform that every girl goes
with on Hallo by Yeah, they go with a Lola
of the Bunny, now.

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
Okay they do. I'm sorry. Speaking of which, by the way,
I never saw the Lebron James Space Jam. Is it
worth my time?

Speaker 3 (01:18:42):
Space Jam too? I'd stick with Alien Earth. I never
watched it either.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
I got to wear what I be better off watching
Independence Day?

Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
He'd be better off watching the Second Independence Day, which
I know you actually did and regretted with Will Smith's
son or something.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
Well, when I get my two hours back or whatever
it was. Was Jeff golom still in it. I think
he was Bill Palman, Bill Pullman, Yeah, came back as
a president. He's like psychotic or something, and the aliens
are in his head and he's having flashbacks or memories
or something. Well, still not go quietly into the night.

Speaker 5 (01:19:10):
He will.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
Still love that speech.

Speaker 3 (01:19:13):
Well, I don't love these rabbits that are mutating in Denver, Colorado,
and that is stranger than fiction.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
Well, they won't cause you too much harm.

Speaker 3 (01:19:20):
Adam's all right, okay, not here, as long as they
don't make their way and my great West.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
Well, they start crawls breeding with the antelope, then we
have a problem.

Speaker 3 (01:19:30):
Well, then you've got a mythical creature on your hands, apparently.

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
But I just Adam doesn't believe in you know, I like, oh,
go look behind your car tonight. See if you don't
see a chupacabra. Well, you know, I have little kittens.

Speaker 3 (01:19:40):
I like cute animals, so I like cute rabbits. I
don't want to see him with horns and wartz.

Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
Make sure when any cats and have wartz horns. When
you get home, you never know.

Speaker 3 (01:19:49):
How dare you put that into my mind saying that's
gonna keep me up all night.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
You just don't seem like a believer to me. I'm
not You think I'm molder, Fox Moulder or anything like that.
I'm not sure. Yeah, well I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:20:01):
Kevin okay, and I am scared believe that you should
be coming up though. We're gonna put your fears aside
at least.

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
Try our best. Okay, you know, do you fear your rival?
I fear the Lakers a little bit something, as you
should as a Sacramento King fan. Over there. We'll get
into that and more coming up next hour on Fox
Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (01:20:22):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
That's right, Fox Sports Saturday with Kevin figures out. I'm
uslin hit us up on next at follow Adam is
where you can find Adam. You can find me at
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Speaker 3 (01:20:36):
Still to come, Denzel Washington ain't got nothing on us.
We'll review some of the comments he made about our profession,
that's right earlier this week.

Speaker 2 (01:20:46):
Was he accurate?

Speaker 3 (01:20:47):
Was he out of line, out of place, veering out
of his lane. We'll let you know, maybe all the
above to a certain degree, Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
Got a lot to say about Nanzel, who I do like.
We we got to get into it. But you know
one thing we got to get into. As we know,
football season's kicking off here week zero in college football
next weekend. The NFL in full swing as far as
the preseason goes, and Adam and I got to talking
about something earlier on Friday when it comes to rivals
and whether or not and look to kick off the show.

(01:21:16):
I haven't talked about the Kansas City Chiefs a little bit.
I'm sorry, and now it's quite all right. Look, they've
been on a bit of a run of success here.
I know it's been a difficult time for you over
the last six years or so, oh trial like the
last thirty years as a Raider fan. Trust me, not
a lot of success for the Silver I'm black to
be honest with you. Hopefully things are looking up Silver
with the addition of Pete Carroll and Gino Smith actually

(01:21:37):
bringing a legitimate quarterback into the room. Ye we'll see
how improved they will be this coming season. But obviously
the Kansas City Chiefs, since the most recent dynasty of
the New England Patriots, have ruled the roost in the NFL,
and as a Raider fan, that's hard to see. It's
hard to witness that the one team that I hate
more than anybody else, more than the Broncos, more than
the Chargers, more than the Steelers. The Kansas City Chiefs

(01:22:00):
have won what have been to three Super Bowls, they
won three one, three to five, and they've been to
the AFC Championship Game every single year of Patrick Mahomes's career.
Now for a tough pill to swallow.

Speaker 3 (01:22:10):
I typically hate origin stories, but I do want to
get the genesis of your hate for the Kansas City
Chiefs outside of the fact that they're in your division
and have beaten you many times. Was there a particular
win necessary that you have to say have.

Speaker 2 (01:22:27):
Beaten you many times?

Speaker 8 (01:22:28):
Was?

Speaker 11 (01:22:28):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
Should I look it up and make sure that was?
I don't need your.

Speaker 5 (01:22:34):
Groa.

Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
Growing up an LA Raider fan, it was always ingrained
to me that you hate the Steelers, you hate the Chiefs,
you hate the Broncos, and it was ingrained to me
even more that you hate the Kansas City Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (01:22:42):
For whatever reason. Didn't really know why. I know they
both came over from the AFL together. There was always
a long standing rivalry between the two and that was
ingrained in me.

Speaker 3 (01:22:50):
And then it got taken up an extra notch when
Marcus Allen had his falling out with Al Davis and
he went to the Kansas City Chiefs and proceeded to
lay the wood to the Raiders for about four or
five years whatever it was with the Chiefs every time
they played the Raiders, especially when they came back to
the old decrepit Coliseum in downtown LA.

Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
And we'll put it on the Raiders every single time
they played.

Speaker 3 (01:23:12):
He jumped over a lot of piles into the end zone.

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
Yeah he did. He was good at that. Yeah, a
lot of piles of crap called the Raider defense back then.

Speaker 3 (01:23:19):
Earlier this week, I was thinking about the Dodgers, who
up until tonight were in a bit of a tail
spin called kitt and ballue because they were in an
oh wheel tailspin.

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
It's been brutal for them.

Speaker 3 (01:23:32):
Now you were on the other side of this. Your
Angels ended up sweeping them for the first time ever
Enfranchise history in the Freeway Series.

Speaker 2 (01:23:42):
Actually a golf clap.

Speaker 3 (01:23:43):
They won all six games against the Dodgers this season.
They did that deserves a golf clap. Okay, that was
their world.

Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
Deserves They deserve nothing. It's absolutely ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (01:23:53):
But I was kind of taking pleasure in the misfortune
of the Dodgers because I grew up a Giants fan
up in norcl schadenfreuder, what was happening? Do you too
indulge in a little bit of shoden freud when you're
watching your rival fail like I was watching with the
Dodgers up until tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:24:15):
For that's one game where they had a huge comeback.
They were down one run exactly for them. There's a lot,
but no, there's something to be said for that, like
when you are especially when your team sucks. Loved to
respect Adam and they won their share of World Series
over the past, you know, seven years or eight years,
whatever it's been for the Giants when they went three
to five or whatever it was.

Speaker 3 (01:24:34):
I had they had the golden age of Giants baseball
not too long ago.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
Yeah, the Raiders have not sniffed that at all. So
we were talking about your team has not been good.
Do you take pleasure out of the fact that your
arrival is like, well, if we're not gonna win, at
least they didn't win I haven't been able to say
that about the Kansas City Chiefs. I've had to cut
and he's taking even worse.

Speaker 3 (01:24:53):
Two of those Super Bowls they played the forty nine Ers, lose,
lose regardless for me, Yeah, it was also a great
for me to for the forty nine ers, but I
would rather the forty nine ers win in the Kansas
City Chiefs. That's how deep my hatred runs for that organization.
Raiders Niners preseason matchup come up over underrun fights for
for to night, Adam, where's.

Speaker 2 (01:25:11):
It taking place? It is in Vegas.

Speaker 3 (01:25:13):
It's just in Vegas. They're so buttoned up there.

Speaker 2 (01:25:16):
I don't know. They might be all right, really classy.

Speaker 3 (01:25:19):
I mean, there probably will be someone yelling, hey, there's
a little boy right over there.

Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
At some point there's gonna be over under since it's Vegas.

Speaker 3 (01:25:27):
I'll say five fights that we find out about due
to social media after this weekend is over between I
think former Bay Area Rivals.

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
The only matchup that I can think of in professional
sports that was canceled for a time because there were
too many fights. It was like that, Yes, the Bay
Area Battle or whatever they used to call it, the
Bay Area Maybe it was called the Bay Area Brawl.
I don't know. I think it was Battle of the Bay.

Speaker 3 (01:25:48):
There you go, but that might have been the Giants
and A's in the eighty nine World Series, also with
the earthquake.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
Yeah, the Raiders in forty nine. Ers will play annually
either in Oakland or in San Francisco. And because there
were so many fights and so much violence between the
two fan bases, the NFL just said, maybe we just
paused this this annual preseason matchup and just not do
this anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:26:08):
We all are taking this too seriously. It ain't the
longest yard out there.

Speaker 2 (01:26:11):
Relax. Yeah, there's hatred four arrival, and then it just
goes to another level. Not necessary.

Speaker 3 (01:26:18):
I would say this a lot of law and order
taking place between those two teams. I would say this,
as much as I used to hate the Dodgers, being
in the industry has softened me up a little bit.
I got a couple of stories for you. One that's
very recent. All right, My cold heart has melted over

(01:26:40):
the fact that men Casparius, Dodgers relief pitcher was in
studio at A five seventy recently with Petros some money
in a locker room feature.

Speaker 2 (01:26:48):
I talked to the guy for.

Speaker 3 (01:26:49):
Like five to ten minutes after he got to save
the day before against the Giants.

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
Up in SF. You know what, I liked him, turn Coat,
I liked him a lot. Dar you you are no
longer allowed. I can't help the whule Park or whatever
it's called now.

Speaker 3 (01:27:05):
Ben Casparius, who helped them win the World Series last year.
He was very good coming out of the pen, like
he kind of wooed me.

Speaker 2 (01:27:14):
I'm gonna tell you this right now, what Travis Kelsey
could be the nicest person in the world. We can
go out and have beers and all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:27:21):
And the last thing I'll say to him before he
walks away Ole Max prot Crowsby gets in your.

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
Ass tomorrow night. That's the only way to put it.
That's not gonna happen. Okay, that will never happen at him.

Speaker 3 (01:27:33):
Look, we're the Dodger station at AM five seven. He
obviously associated with FSR. So I have been around so
many Dodgers over the years that I just can't have
the same level of.

Speaker 2 (01:27:46):
Hate that I used to.

Speaker 3 (01:27:47):
And being in the business for so long, you realize
there's good and bad guys on every team They're not
all the bad guys in the villains and your team
is in all heroes. That's not how anything works. There's
a lot of gray in this world.

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
Oh oh yeah, Well, look, none of those guys are villains.
There's not a single player on the Kansas City Chiefs
that I hate. Patrick Mahomes is a nice guy, even
though he sounds like a muppet. Does that make it worse?

Speaker 3 (01:28:09):
Yes, it does. It makes him hard to hate. Like,
They're so damn likable. Andy Reeve was has been one
of my favorite coaches since he was with the Philadelphia Eagles.
There's nothing to dislike there. Travis Kelce, I've always liked
him as a player. Chris Jones is a tough guy.
I love him as a player. There's not like an
unlikable personality on the team. It's just that logo, it's
that organization. It's the history behind it that I can't

(01:28:30):
get behind off. All those guys thrive personally individually, and
obviously they have professionally.

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
I just whether they not win Super Bowls? How about that?

Speaker 5 (01:28:37):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:28:38):
For me with the Dodgers, even if I'm not talking
about Ben Casparius, my favorite baseball player.

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
Of all time, now.

Speaker 3 (01:28:44):
I had a conversation with the late great Tommy Lasorda
when he came into the station one time in five
seventy and I told him, the bad news is, Tommy,
I'm a Giants fan.

Speaker 2 (01:28:56):
The good news is I'm Italian and he's.

Speaker 3 (01:29:00):
Blood is thicker. Would say that shook my hands and
everything was fine. I love that interaction.

Speaker 2 (01:29:06):
I'll remember that forever. So it's not the same. However, Okay,
there's still a team out there that I dislike here.

Speaker 3 (01:29:15):
It comes almost as much as I did when I
was a kid, and none of that disdain has faded.

Speaker 2 (01:29:20):
And that would be the Los Angeles Lakers. Yep. I
can still have some good old fashioned hate for them.
I can.

Speaker 3 (01:29:27):
Don't shake your head at me, Bri because of Laker fans.
It's not even so much about the players anymore. You know,
I didn't like Kobe and Shack back in the day.
It's complicated. I really like Magic Johnson as a kid,
but I didn't like Kobe and Shack. So it's kind
of on again, off again with them. But it's been
off for a while. And Laker fans still pass from
me all the time because I work for the Clippers.

(01:29:49):
And I am a Clippers fan, and let's be fair,
you do troll them sometimes WHOA. You do troll Laker
fans WHOA on social media and there's some back and
forth going. I'm not saying it's all coming from you,
but I.

Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
Live under a bridge by crypto.

Speaker 3 (01:30:02):
Definitely the troller definitely lean you, definitely lean into it
once in a while I get him going. But back
of the day, I was worse like I prayed for
the worst for my enemies. I prayed for their downfall
all the time. We had a Shack bobblehead that I
remember during the two thousand and two Western Conference Finals
between the Kings and the Lakers. As I came from NorCal.

(01:30:22):
Obviously the Giants rude Sacramento Kings fan, they're taking each
other on. We twisted that bobblehead's head all the way off,
and I don't think Shack ever lost his head outside
the time he took a swing of Brad Miller, but
Miller would have lost his head if he had connected.
That's how much I hated the Lakers. And I think
I could say, and this is kind of the crux

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of what we're talking about, I might have enjoyed the
Lakers losing more than the King's winning at times.

Speaker 2 (01:30:48):
Really, that's how bad it was for me. So you
it sounds ridiculous to ask, but this is kind of
what you're leaning into. You would take more joy. You
took more joy out of the Lakers losing. Let's say
the NBA Finals the Pistons in two thousand and four,
then you would have half the Sacramento Kings went and
beat Noah Eagles in nets in two thousand and two
and actually won.

Speaker 3 (01:31:08):
The championship, And they would have beatn Noah Eagles nets
when he's staying there in that last interview we just
did with him a little while ago, that would have
been a great series.

Speaker 2 (01:31:15):
No, it wouldn't have been Noah well to know. I
think he said it would have been a better series,
to which I also argue, I don't think that would
have been the case.

Speaker 3 (01:31:21):
Kings might not have swept them, but they're winning that
series in five over the nets. We know how much
better the West was over the East even back then.
I wouldn't take it that far, I though, Well, the
best case scenario is they're the team that beats the
Lakers on their way to winning the championship, like what

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would have happened in two thousand and two if it
wasn't for Game six, which I still get upset about it.

Speaker 5 (01:31:46):
I know you do.

Speaker 2 (01:31:47):
Yeah, I got problems. I'm damaged goods. I have issues.

Speaker 3 (01:31:52):
This is my therapy. That's why we're doing this right now.
But do you feel it all the same way, Like
you have no hope for the Raiders doing anything, so
all you can do is root against Kansas City.

Speaker 2 (01:32:04):
Right, it's not necessary at all. No, I don't feel
the same way. There's nothing better than having your favorite
team being able to win a championship. That's the greatest feeling.
That's why you invest as much time oftentimes money buying
season seeds, buying Sunday tickets and buying merchandise and all
that stuff. And when's the last time you felt like that? Never?
Absolutely never. It's gonna happen at some point, though, damn it.

Speaker 3 (01:32:27):
And you'll be rewarded. Yeah, your faith will be rewarded.
The first person I'm hitting up is going to be you.
You have little Fay.

Speaker 2 (01:32:33):
Now, it might not be until twenty fifty something, but
it's gonna happen. Yeah, it'll be hitting me up I'll
be in the wheelchair. So while I did derive joy
out of the Kansas City Chiefs getting smoked by the
Philadelphia Eagles and the Super Bowl this past season, and
also losing the Sewer Bowl to Tom Brady, which is
also hard, by the way, because you know, basically Tom
Brady's career started at the tuckle roll with the Raiders.

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I still want one of the few people who firmly
believe that the Raiders had won that game in two
thousand and one in the snow in Foxborough, they would
have turned back to Drew Bledsoe and probably traded Tom
Brady away.

Speaker 3 (01:33:05):
But because Tom was quite a butterfly effect, that's a
fork in the road moment because Tom Brady is not
in a position to lead that game when he drive
against the Rams in the Super Bowl, and Tom Brady
doesn't turn to Tom Brady at that point. Although Bledsoe
came in the end of the AFC Championship game and
played against Pittsburgh and helped them beat the Steelers.

Speaker 2 (01:33:21):
Because Brady got hurt in that game, he absolutely did.

Speaker 3 (01:33:23):
Yeah, but you're probably right, Bledsoe is getting paid big money.
He was the guy that tuck rule game turning point.
Thank you Walt Coleman.

Speaker 2 (01:33:31):
To tell you how deep my hatred runs. I wanted
Tom Brady to win a Super Bowl. That's how much
I disliked the Kansas City Chiefs. That's coming from a
Raider fan. That's weird, isn't it. That's how bad it is. That,
that's how deep it runs.

Speaker 3 (01:33:44):
Enemy of my enemy is my friend basically, and now
he's my owner, so I makes it's all worse. It's
all bad right now. This is like when Shack bought
the Sacramento Kings. Wait a second, you did not have
to bring that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:55):
Yeah, let you forget about that one. That's something that's something.

Speaker 3 (01:33:58):
That has flown so far on the radar that we
never talk about. I think he's still as part owner.
I thought he sold the steak so he didn't, Okay,
I hope, so I said for a while, I'm not
coming back to the Kings until Shaq leaves. Now, luckily
I have the Clippers, and luckily we have an owner
that you know, delegates and believes in the people that
he empowered Walmer. If it was legally allowed, he could

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probably buy the Kings and own them to at the
same time with the Clippers.

Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
Well, you remember what happened with the Forum, right I do.

Speaker 3 (01:34:26):
There was some red tape with him building into a
dome right next to the Forum because of I don't know,
Karmageddon happening, and you're not supposed to be able to
have two places like that in close proximity.

Speaker 2 (01:34:37):
That's kind of redundant in proper. Also, James Dolan, who
owned the Form, thought he was that the News Clippers
Arena was going to take away concerts and other events
at the former hosting.

Speaker 3 (01:34:46):
You know what he did, just bought out the competition,
just bought the Form. Oh here's that red tape cut
right there. That was the most Bruce Wayne like, g move,
I'll buy the bar whatever. By the way, James Dolan,
owner of the Knicks, not hurting for money himself, and
well Steve Barmer just says, like, why are we gonna
get the lawyers involved? Just take this check, man, James.

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O's all right, cool, bye, just take the money. He's out,
all right.

Speaker 2 (01:35:10):
I wanted to find out from Bree here and Mark
do they feel do they have the hate in their
heart at the level that I do, or at least
have had at times? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:35:20):
Or you get more out of your rival losing than
your own team winning. So, Mark, you're a proud Chicago wan.
So I know you're you're a Bears fan. Did you
get joy out of the Packers losing or as a
White Sox fan watching the Cubs lose?

Speaker 2 (01:35:31):
To do anything for you?

Speaker 12 (01:35:33):
It hasn't been the best recently because the Packers have
been winning, so that whole rivalry thing.

Speaker 3 (01:35:40):
It's not like they beat you in the NFC Championship
game in like twenty eleven or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:35:44):
To bring that up. Sorry, Jay Cutler got hurt. Thanks
for breaking my heart. Thank you very much.

Speaker 12 (01:35:48):
I appreciate your opinion. Anyway, back to me, I'm so sad.
You know, just that the Packers are doing well. They
have a new quarterback, so they might do better. An
I'm always pulling against them. So that's that with the Packers.

Speaker 2 (01:36:02):
You got a new quarterback. To come on, Let's hope
he's not painting his nails during the game. That's all
I'm hoping for, wow and crying into his mama's chest.
Uh Bree.

Speaker 6 (01:36:13):
Okay, So I used to think like, I mean, you
guys are talking about like inner division like whatever rivals.
Now I'm at a point where it's just like I
hate the Rams and I hate the Vikings just because
of the monumental things that have happened against the Saints,
like like what, I don't know if you guys remember
the Minneapolis Miracle Stefan Dick.

Speaker 2 (01:36:33):
I feel like your your hatress to go towards Marcus Williams,
not the entire organization, it's the entire organization. But I
feel that the Vikings didn't do anything. They just caught
the ball and ran.

Speaker 6 (01:36:43):
Yeah, well that was just the whole team. Also, I
just will never and also boundy Gate was kind of
involved with that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:48):
I don't know, I just can't.

Speaker 3 (01:36:48):
I just it's just a bad feeling boundy Gate.

Speaker 2 (01:36:51):
It's called karma. You got your come up and after
getting away with Bountygate.

Speaker 6 (01:36:55):
Super Bowl and the Rams just I will never get
over the twenty nineteen I'll never get over for the
p I call. It's just something that I just I
have a disdain and disgust for them. And when the
Rams lost to the Super Bowl, it was like the best.

Speaker 3 (01:37:07):
Day of my life.

Speaker 2 (01:37:07):
Feel like I should have gone against the NFL officials,
but sure, I just can't from it.

Speaker 6 (01:37:12):
I mean, obviously in like the Falcons and mostly the Bucks,
like the whole Marshall Lattimore and like Mike Evans, like drama.

Speaker 2 (01:37:20):
I was always like my name, like a third of
the NFL hates apparently, like Mike.

Speaker 6 (01:37:24):
Evans is such a bride and I just like that's
super annoying. And obviously every time I look at the
Panthers are just so gross and I just think about
it everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:37:33):
It's just all that he's holding a grudge at all,
Sarah Michelle Geller in the grudge.

Speaker 2 (01:37:38):
Like what is this right? He associates Rob Low in
his NFL logo head.

Speaker 6 (01:37:43):
Yeah, I'm not a fan of that either. That's really annoying.
I can't help it now. I know it's the Saints,
the Saints, like you know, like I'm an angel there
the Saints.

Speaker 2 (01:37:51):
It's fine, Well, let's not go that far. For he
just took a flamethrower to the majority of the league.
Like there was a lot of.

Speaker 3 (01:37:57):
Misdirected hostility, including coming at me here He's like breaking
knees at the end.

Speaker 2 (01:38:01):
Yeah, Breeze hates Breeze winner the award for play Ahead
End of the Year. Heyte all coming from Breeze direction. Well,
just took an unexpectedly worst turn that I have to say,
so pretty dark. I knew it was going to get bad,
but my goda's everybody else that you want to hate
before we go to break here?

Speaker 11 (01:38:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:38:21):
Who else?

Speaker 5 (01:38:21):
You?

Speaker 2 (01:38:22):
Well, if we're talking about you can move to the NBA.
Your Phoenix Suns. I mean they get a lot of
hate right now.

Speaker 6 (01:38:29):
I just feel like Dennis Allen kind of took like
it kind of hurt Spencer Rattler's like progression in a
quarterback world, you know. And also I'll never I will
always hate Derek Carr and everybody knows.

Speaker 2 (01:38:39):
That at work. So you hating a proud man of God. Oh,
I'm sure it's fine.

Speaker 6 (01:38:46):
He's going to open up his Joe ol scene church
in Fresno and he's going to do great, say the
Church of car It's going to have.

Speaker 2 (01:38:51):
The sea and the sea. You know, there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:38:54):
I thought he'd open like a makeup shop for all
the masscaret looks like he's wearing.

Speaker 2 (01:38:58):
All the time. Matt Scara, I get it right. Whatever
his little Jared leto eyeliner. It's annoying. I really don't
appreciate you guys going after an average rader quarterback like
that in front of my presence as really, really, really
unnecessary from the two of you.

Speaker 3 (01:39:13):
I don't know all the teams the Denzel Washington roots for,
but I know there's some LA teams, there's some New
York teams, and I may be a hater when it
comes to him more Hayes comments that he just made
this week that kind of set me off. We'll discuss
coming up next. He's Kevin Figures. I'm out a Moslin.
It's Fox Sports Saturday Night here on FSR.

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Speaker 3 (01:40:12):
Last segment, we were talking about teams we love to
hate and Mike in Tucson is calling in, Mike, what's up?
You're on the f and a takeover of FSR.

Speaker 2 (01:40:23):
What's up? Mike?

Speaker 5 (01:40:25):
Hey, what's up? Guys?

Speaker 4 (01:40:25):
How you guys do it?

Speaker 5 (01:40:26):
Man? I love the show.

Speaker 4 (01:40:28):
I tune in. I gotta say, Brian no best radio
voice I ever heard.

Speaker 5 (01:40:34):
And I'm a radio jock team man by heart Raider fans.
I would never watch Raider.

Speaker 4 (01:40:38):
Games off TV's Greg Papa Howard Stern.

Speaker 5 (01:40:42):
Well, when I heard Brian knows he has the best.

Speaker 4 (01:40:44):
Radio voice ever and we need more of him. And
I'm not gonna hate, but he could five he could.
There's there's a few shows on Fox that we take out.

Speaker 5 (01:40:56):
That's what brand no is.

Speaker 2 (01:40:57):
Yeah, I like to know where this was going.

Speaker 4 (01:41:01):
Ball State University, Ball State University.

Speaker 2 (01:41:05):
Brian, thank you, Mike. We appreciate despite his affinity for
a Notre Dame. I also love Brian notees too. Brian's
one of my favorite people. So appreciate the call there.
If you don't know Brian, yeah, exactly. Let's go to Olympia.
Let's go to a Pacific Northwest and Emmett what's going on.

Speaker 7 (01:41:21):
In Kevin Figures? And we got to bring that drop
back the old Kevin Figgers dropped from back in the day.
Adam Auslin, how you guys doing tonight?

Speaker 2 (01:41:27):
Good brother? Yeah, we'll dig that up.

Speaker 3 (01:41:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:41:29):
Jingle from back in the day, the Paddle Brian inspired.

Speaker 3 (01:41:31):
Jingle seventy eight Vermont. That's deep.

Speaker 2 (01:41:35):
What's tell your mind? What do you got?

Speaker 8 (01:41:36):
Man?

Speaker 5 (01:41:37):
I love this segment.

Speaker 7 (01:41:38):
There's a few teams that I hate as a Seahawks fan.
The first one kind of makes sense, the San Francisco
forty nine ers. It's just like how their fans like
act to us. I think it's that far. And then
seeing them go to the NFC Championship in the Super
Bowl over the past couple of years, I'm definitely hate watching.
And then I don't think McCaffrey's as healthy as they're
making it out to be. I think Kendon nightis is

(01:41:59):
a lingering thing, and all the fans like, oh, we're good,
we're back to normal, We're winning the Super Bowl. And
the other team I hate, and this one doesn't really
make that much sense me being a Seahawks fan. But
I think a lot of America can agree with me
on this one, and that is a Dallas Cowboys I
think that their fans's our year every year. And then
just I feel bad for Cowboys players like Micah Parsons

(01:42:21):
and all that, where Jerry Jones just does them wrong.
I mean, Jerry Jones is like he doesn't care about winning.
He cares about it being a soap opera, and I
can't support that. And the Cowboys fans they're just like,
as much as they've gone through, I just can't stand them.

Speaker 5 (01:42:33):
And then an NBA won for you guys.

Speaker 7 (01:42:35):
Real quickly, and Adam's gonna like this one. Lebron James,
I think like over the last couple of years, for me,
my view on Hims changed.

Speaker 5 (01:42:43):
Just he is not good at talking to the media.
I think he wants all the attention. But I mean
he's a great player. I'll give him that.

Speaker 7 (01:42:49):
It's not too much of a hate thing, but it's
a criticism.

Speaker 5 (01:42:52):
Thank you for the call.

Speaker 2 (01:42:53):
It's fair. Appreciate it.

Speaker 8 (01:42:54):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:42:54):
Dallas Cowboys America's team to hate, Yes, that's how they become.

Speaker 2 (01:42:59):
I think everybody he's not a Cowboy fan, can rally
behind that. The Cowboys are one of those things that
you're not really indifferent about. You want to win? Are
you just you bask when they lose? They've a lot
of the last thirty.

Speaker 3 (01:43:10):
Years polarizing, like Lebron James not a bad phone call?
Do we have Dave in Kansas?

Speaker 8 (01:43:17):
Dave?

Speaker 2 (01:43:18):
What's up? You're on FSR?

Speaker 5 (01:43:20):
Yeah, I just.

Speaker 10 (01:43:21):
Wanted to tell you that this is you guys have
the best late night show that I've listened to in
a long time. I've been listening to Fox Radio for
probably twenty plus years when they first came on, and
I'm a late night guy, so I've seen a lot,
you know, see in her a lot of things that
you guys are really good. And I'm glad that you're

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both getting a chance to appear, and I hope that
you stay on longer. The screener said to me, you know,
is there any team that I hate? Well, I lived
in Denver for a long time and so I hated
Kansas City and uh and uh, you know the the

(01:44:04):
other Kings that we played, and now that I live
near Kansas City, I hate Denver.

Speaker 3 (01:44:11):
Are you really flip flopping exactly? Let's hello flip there.
Dave just still flip flop on us. Man, we appreciate
the life.

Speaker 2 (01:44:17):
I still love to support there, Dave, appreciate him, man,
David Kansas calling in, Do we got one more here?

Speaker 5 (01:44:24):
Kevin?

Speaker 2 (01:44:24):
Yeah, let's go to the oldie but goody our guy
Poppy in San Diego, Poppy, what's going on?

Speaker 3 (01:44:29):
Hey?

Speaker 4 (01:44:30):
What's going on?

Speaker 6 (01:44:30):
Guys?

Speaker 10 (01:44:31):
Hey?

Speaker 7 (01:44:31):
Kevin?

Speaker 4 (01:44:31):
And everyone looks.

Speaker 3 (01:44:32):
So.

Speaker 4 (01:44:32):
What I really hate is the fan, the low information
fanning over here in San Diego, beautiful San Diego.

Speaker 5 (01:44:38):
They're like the.

Speaker 4 (01:44:39):
Rivalry that people hate is the Chargers against the Raiders
and the low information fan that they don't know nothing
about their team or anything like that. Just that I
really hate that those fans that they didn't know nothing
about their team. And another riberry that hate over here
in San Diego is the Dodgers. They come over here
and it's just just crazy. It's just crazy. They hate
each other. They act like their own our city, beautiful

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San Diego, America, finan city, America's financ city, and it's
not like that. And also the library that I hate,
it's a La Galaxy. We have our first year and
now that's in San Diego, MC. These guys were lost
to us and I was at that game and they
were fighting upstairs, and I felt like they were gonna
be crawling down and hte their heads on the ground.
It's is just crazy, those those La fans. I don't know,

(01:45:23):
it's it's just something about it, like they think they
know it all that. I hate that with the passion.
So we're gonna humble them the Padres, We're gonna come back,
and we're gonna beat the Dodgers bout back on some
day too. So that's what I that's my take on
that poppy.

Speaker 2 (01:45:37):
You're not wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:45:38):
LA fans can come across as entitled. Except Clippers fans
they are except Clippers fans humble, are extremely entitled. They
show humility even outside the greatest arena of all time
and into a dome.

Speaker 2 (01:45:51):
Clippers fans know where it's at. There's a level of
arrogance that comes with being a fan of certain organizations
that have a standard of winning, like the Lakers and
like the Dodgers especially.

Speaker 3 (01:46:00):
You know something, the Clippers don't really know a whole
lot about, So that's probably why they're so humble. Well,
you know what, that was some hate right there and
an unnecessary shot directly to your left, Bobby.

Speaker 2 (01:46:12):
Thanks for the phone crustee of Bobby.

Speaker 3 (01:46:13):
Speaking of unnecessary Yes, Denzel Washington's doing a media tour
for the latest Spike lead joint that he's in with
Jeffrey Rush. It's called Highest to Lois, and he said
this taking a dig at our profession.

Speaker 5 (01:46:26):
Everybody's got an opinion. We live in a world of
opinionaire you know, I just whatt I call them opinionaires.

Speaker 13 (01:46:31):
They're all the shows are a bunch of guys and
a couple of them that have played, but most of
them who haven't, who have an opinion.

Speaker 3 (01:46:36):
About what something should be when they haven't done it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:39):
Those who can't talk about those who can't. Those who
have know what they talking about.

Speaker 13 (01:46:44):
Those who haven't don't period too much, target, too much,
target might got an opinion.

Speaker 2 (01:46:51):
Everybody's sitting around getting fat, you.

Speaker 5 (01:46:54):
Know, thinking they know how to do it.

Speaker 13 (01:46:55):
Just because you can sit behind the desk and chit
chat doesn't mean you can do a damn thing.

Speaker 5 (01:46:59):
It's a bar.

Speaker 2 (01:47:00):
Come get up here with me, let's find out. Come
get in the gym with me. Let's find out.

Speaker 5 (01:47:05):
I mean, I don't know you you know, I can
throw my.

Speaker 2 (01:47:09):
Hands, I can do. I'm sure do it. I can't
do it for real? S I don't talk about it,
but let me leave.

Speaker 13 (01:47:16):
See any kid you know who never played a day
in his life and now he can get back at
everybody because he got a mic in the Space show.

Speaker 2 (01:47:24):
People need to shut up.

Speaker 13 (01:47:26):
People need to shut up, learn how to do something,
be actually good at something.

Speaker 5 (01:47:29):
Try that.

Speaker 3 (01:47:30):
I don't know if the dramatic music was necessary underneath
really had it something to it, though it did kind
of work, especially when he basically just said catch me outside.

Speaker 2 (01:47:38):
How about that if he say come catch his hands? Like,
all right, Denzel Hurricane, were you acting it? Were You're
being real at that point in time? So I had
to tell you that. Good of an actor, by the way,
So I love Denzel. He's making an argument that a
lot of people do, which is, you never played broy
what you know? If you didn't play at.

Speaker 3 (01:47:53):
The highest level, how can you know about sports? How
can you talk about sports and do so for living well?
I don't think he's been a talk show host nope
in his career, or he played one in a movie.
Yet he's giving his own opinion and critiquing that profession.

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For critiquing sports. Hey, I don't think he understands talking
is a profession. Sports talk is a profession. Political commentators
that's a profession.

Speaker 2 (01:48:27):
Entertainment commentators, voters, the very profession that he has excelled
in for forty years, fifty years, whatever it's been.

Speaker 3 (01:48:35):
He's phenomenal. I loved Denzel's one of my favorite actors
of all time.

Speaker 2 (01:48:39):
But the reason or a big reason why you're successful
is because of people like us who are in the
entertainment industry that promote and talk about the things that
you do in debate whether or not you were better
in this film versus somebody else. And you know what
those debates drum up, whether or not you're nominated for
Best Actor, and whether or not you win awards, and
whether or not you get all these accolades that propel
you to get other big you see. So that's how

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it works.

Speaker 3 (01:49:02):
Like the criteria or the credibility and the resume in
your background for talking about sports, it isn't having played necessarily,
it's can you talk? That's what has to be there.
That's what adds the credibility because the truth is, some

(01:49:23):
of the greatest players of all time are terrible analysts.
And terrible gms and terrible owners. If there was some
connection between being greater to sport and knowing how to draft,
knowing how to build a team, well Michael Jordan wouldn't
be so bad at it because he might be the
greatest player ever. But he can't evaluate talent right, but

(01:49:47):
he played.

Speaker 2 (01:49:48):
I don't understand. Shouldn't he know more than everyone else
and less? I call it Denzel Washington and hypocritic because
I don't want to do that. Here he in the
midst of doing this media to where you're talking about
Adam promoting this movie, made a stopover the first take,
and I had this critique of the Dallas Cowboys, his
favorite team of the NFL.

Speaker 13 (01:50:06):
I've been a Cowboy fan since the sixties. He's making
it hard for me, Wow, not to be a fan
because I'm still a Cowboy fan.

Speaker 5 (01:50:14):
I'm still gonna have to start on.

Speaker 13 (01:50:15):
The side of the hat. But he ain't thinking about us.
He's thinking about his pocket. Okay, I mean it all.

Speaker 1 (01:50:24):
Jerry Joes on the phone, Get him on the phone.

Speaker 2 (01:50:27):
What does he say?

Speaker 6 (01:50:28):
You tell me?

Speaker 2 (01:50:28):
What does he say? He says that he's getting rip
my Cowboys. We're the most successful brand in sports. You know,
you mean in terms of what championship. No, of course
he can't say championship.

Speaker 13 (01:50:40):
I'm talking about recognition, notoriety, dollars and cents and sports.
But in the end, one of the ine, you haven't
been in an NFC championship game or super Bowl in
thirty years.

Speaker 2 (01:50:49):
Thirty years, okay? And for some reason he's just stubborn, man,
He just And then you got his son sitting there
talking about Michael Paulsan's.

Speaker 1 (01:50:57):
Like, hey, he got a won to Sonic track.

Speaker 2 (01:51:00):
What makes those sense?

Speaker 3 (01:51:02):
Guys?

Speaker 2 (01:51:02):
But you know this, there's box office and it's Oscars.

Speaker 13 (01:51:08):
Jerry been a while, he ain't been to the show.

Speaker 5 (01:51:10):
You wouldn't know. Now.

Speaker 3 (01:51:12):
I don't want to step to the equalizer three here.
I mean, but it sure seems like he's talking about
sports there. And yet did he play professionally?

Speaker 2 (01:51:22):
I don't know. Didell Washington own an NFL franchise and
know what it's like to own a team. Has he
got that much game? Hire a head coach and a
general manager and a roster and try to put a
winning product on the field.

Speaker 3 (01:51:32):
By the way, let's see here, he's fans of the
Cowboys the Lakers, the Knicks, the Yankees.

Speaker 2 (01:51:39):
Like, what are you getting at.

Speaker 3 (01:51:40):
I'm not saying he's a fairweather fan for teams that
have historically won over the last fifty years since he's
been around, But it seems like there may be connecting
dots there, just a little bit of evidence that I
don't know, he's a little bit.

Speaker 5 (01:51:55):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:51:55):
I don't want to say that. I don't want de
Zel to come after me next. Oh look, a New
Yorker moved to LA. I can kind of understand the
connection there, But like, the greater point is you can't
see her and call out people for having opinions on
things that they don't have experience in, and then you
do the exact same thing while you're in the midst
of this tour doing the exact same thing. You're criticizing
us for rules for thee but not for the Denzel Washington.

(01:52:16):
And I get it.

Speaker 3 (01:52:17):
You worked in a profession where people have been critical
of you and your perform at your entire career and
you're tired of people talking about you, And I get it,
But that's what you sign up for when you become
an entertainer, singer, professional athlete.

Speaker 2 (01:52:29):
That's kind of why you make all the money. They're things,
they are things that come with it, and a couple
of those things is guys like you and I sitting
here criticizing you for things that you say and do.

Speaker 3 (01:52:37):
I think, to me, this is about some of the
dumbest takes I've ever heard have come from former great athletes.
And the difference is playing the game, knowing the game,
and talking the game are three separate things, right, And
that's where I stand on this, and I still love you, Denzel.

Speaker 5 (01:52:56):
Same.

Speaker 2 (01:52:58):
What's my favorite Denzel movie? I guess is still Training Day.
It's gotta be.

Speaker 3 (01:53:02):
He won the Academy Award for that. I did pretty
supporting for Glory pretty.

Speaker 2 (01:53:06):
Good and Malcolm X.

Speaker 3 (01:53:07):
Yeah, between Training Day and Malcolm X are by far
the two my two favorites, so bre you got one the.

Speaker 2 (01:53:13):
Training Day one hundred percent. I also remember The Titans
is a close second.

Speaker 5 (01:53:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:53:17):
He's pretty good in that. Yeah, he's pretty good. What
are you talking about?

Speaker 5 (01:53:21):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:53:22):
I liked Ryan Gosling in that. I know he was
live and of course who does it? I was a
Rev guy personally, but now one of our favorites coming
up to finish things off here, with Breeze three in
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Speaker 5 (01:53:46):
If you.

Speaker 2 (01:53:48):
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Speaker 3 (01:54:23):
Been fun here on Fox Sports Saturday. I'm out of Maslin.
He's Kevin Figures. Before we get out, though we can't
miss this segment, not one, not two, but three.

Speaker 6 (01:54:36):
Sport.

Speaker 1 (01:54:36):
It's entertainment, it's good, it's breeze three.

Speaker 2 (01:54:42):
So alrighty, I'm so you guys.

Speaker 6 (01:54:44):
We were talking about Michigan a little bit earlier. Well,
former Michigan tight in tight End now current Chicago bear
Colston Loveland kind of made a social media Round's Heman
viral for his karaoke performance at Marios Let Me Lo You,
a classic from like the early two thousands.

Speaker 2 (01:55:02):
I love Mario. It's a great song.

Speaker 6 (01:55:05):
During a team meeting, obviously, they pushed him to the
bottom of the room and all these people, all the team,
like one hundred plus team members were watching him just
sing the song. And it kind of got me thinking,
if you were like a football player and you were
like an old vet, and then this rookie came in
and you were gonna come up with three kind of
like embarrassing his songs to have them sing, Like, what three.

Speaker 2 (01:55:28):
Would you choose?

Speaker 3 (01:55:29):
Okay, I can't even conceive of that. I'm no Denzel Washington.

Speaker 6 (01:55:32):
You know, Yeah, how does you have an opinion about it?

Speaker 5 (01:55:35):
All?

Speaker 6 (01:55:35):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:55:37):
Exactly?

Speaker 6 (01:55:38):
So my first one I went slained me on my
heart will go on. It was just a little dramatic
and it's just like she hid some crazy notes and
I just want to I want a guy to sing
that and.

Speaker 2 (01:55:48):
Just like really put their heart out or something. Yeah,
that would be hilarious.

Speaker 3 (01:55:53):
I would love that's the way.

Speaker 6 (01:55:56):
Wow, that's too funny. Okay, that was one of my
my second one. I did go Barbie Girl. Obviously, Barbie
is such a huge, tremendous part of within the last
like five years, the movie Greta gerwgg YadA YadA, a
classic song, and so I'm a nineties hit. And because

(01:56:16):
I am definitely in this phase right now, the Backstreet
Boys are in Vegas there, they're performing at this sphere.
I've been listening to them NonStop because I want to
go and sell a kidney to just try to just
be in the same breathe, the same air as them.
I went, I want it that way because I feel
like any kind of guy could sing that and just
sing with a lot of heart, and it'd be really
embarrassing and fun for them.

Speaker 2 (01:56:36):
A karaoke song. Deal with that? Yes, So go Mark,
You're up.

Speaker 12 (01:56:41):
So I was thinking if crazy songs not so much
nursery rhymes, but there's a section of the Rubber Ducky
song from Sesame Street where it says.

Speaker 2 (01:56:51):
Rubber Ducky, you're the one you make bathtime lots of fun.

Speaker 12 (01:56:57):
So there's that one, and then I would make a
rookie sing the Archie song Sugar Sugar, Oh honey, honey.

Speaker 2 (01:57:04):
And then the third one, Yeah, that one, and then
I would have a couple of.

Speaker 12 (01:57:10):
Rookies get up and do their row row row your
boat and make them do it correctly.

Speaker 2 (01:57:15):
If they did it wrong, they'd have to start over
and and actually physically have to actually act like they're rowing.
So that works for me too. So bre talked about
my horror go almost the lean the on, So that's
one of them. You guys watching the Titanic later. Also,
nothing would be more entertaining to me than to see
like a three hundred and fifty pound defitsive tackles sing man,
I Feel like a woman by Shia Plain.

Speaker 13 (01:57:34):
So that one.

Speaker 2 (01:57:36):
And then if we're talking about some choreography, to have
them get a little bit of fun my prerogative by
Bobby Brown. But you gotta dance when you sing two
those are my three?

Speaker 3 (01:57:44):
All right, I guess we're trying to make it as
awkward as possible. Absolutely, I'll Make Love to You by
Boys to Men, Oh, Here we Go.

Speaker 2 (01:57:54):
Oh Bride, Sam Sorry, Hey?

Speaker 3 (01:57:59):
Is the album in the Room with Us that sounded
pretty good, Kevin? From it, there's a song. It's the
last track of my favorite Deaftones album, the songs called MX.

Speaker 2 (01:58:10):
The song is, you know, not.

Speaker 3 (01:58:12):
Playable on the radio or anything like that. That's not
the reason I want it to be sung here in
rookie karaoke because the song at the tail end of
it goes dead air for twenty minutes before another song,
a secret track starts.

Speaker 2 (01:58:29):
What's minutes? Yes, So I want him.

Speaker 3 (01:58:32):
To have to stand there after singing MX from the
Deaftones just in dead silence for twenty minutes because that
technically is part of the song.

Speaker 2 (01:58:43):
If I'm a teammate, I'm leaving, I got time for this.
Thank you first of all, who had time to sit
there and know that there's twenty minutes of dead air
before it actually starts playing more music. Like I said,
it's my favorite album. I'll sit there forever.

Speaker 3 (01:58:55):
It's my favorite Deaftones album. And then lastly, if it's
a white guy, Kevin, you know this God. The movie
CB four has a certain song in it that goes on,
I'm black, y'all, and I'm black, y'all, and I'm black
and I'm black, and I'm black.

Speaker 2 (01:59:10):
Y'all, and I'm black, y'all, and I'm black, y'all, and
I'm black and the black and I'm black, y'all, and
I'm black of the black and black black, black, black
and the black, and I'm black and I'm back. I
thought she was gonna say I'm black and I'm proud
by James Brown would also, which is also work, you know,
So I'll slide that one in there, the honorable men.
Well done job, guys, Bree. That's fine.

Speaker 3 (01:59:30):
Not a bad way to exit week two of the
f and a takeover of Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (01:59:36):
It's pretty strong. That's pretty good, Reese three.

Speaker 3 (01:59:39):
Maybe we should always put it on the back end
of the show.

Speaker 2 (01:59:42):
Why not?

Speaker 5 (01:59:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:59:43):
Not been as strong. Oh, I'm sorry, is this a
producer's meeting that we're having on the air right now?
It's kund of like Fred Rogan right now? Is what's
going on?

Speaker 3 (01:59:52):
That's how the sausages were all fair conversations on the
air right now.

Speaker 2 (01:59:55):
I'm sorry for pulling back the curtain. Kevin, It's not
awkward at all. No, not in the least bit. No,
that was a good breeze.

Speaker 8 (02:00:02):
Three.

Speaker 2 (02:00:02):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (02:00:03):
Before we get out of here, as elwis who want
to show some love to our crew. Absolutely bravery Mark
here at Fox Sports Radio, and I like to call
him great Scott as Doc Brown would and back to
the future, Scott Shapiro for the opportunity here, Kevin.

Speaker 2 (02:00:18):
Yes, much appreciate the opportunity, and thank you guys for
listening to Kevin Figures of Adam Wilson here on Fox
Sports Saturday. Thank you for your support. Coming up next
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