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g is here? Moncy. How you feeling today? I'm here,
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They've been sucking for the last forty eight hours. I'm
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you don't want no, you don't want to feel like this.
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Do not operate heavy radio station. Am I not supposed
to be driving if I'm overdosed on allergy medication? Probably not.
I'm not on Benadrill. Bena Drill's a sleepy one, is it?
I think so at all. That's why I give it
to my kids every night. Yeah, that's terrible. Come on,
just admitted that on Fox Sports Radio only a half
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a BILLI yeah, okay, Well I guess that's all right. Well,
welcome to our show. Thank you guys for hanging out.
Eight seven seven ninety nine. On Fox, Rich, you gotta
feel good about yesterday's performance, man, Max Scherzer. You know,
he came back and he was just noticeably solid. You know,
it's something different about him. And I hate that expression, like, oh,
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he's just built different. I hate that. I hate when
people say that. Yeah, but man, and I also hate
you know what I'm allergic to. He's a great human.
I hate when people say that he's just a great human.
Strangle you if you watched Max yesterday, he's quintessential. Yeah,
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Max Scherzer strikes a guy out, immediately starts pacing around
the mound like a maniac. Yeah, he's like a man
amongst boys. It looks like he's like he's that good
in the Bigs Levin strikeout. It's what seventy something pitches. Yesterday.
Gary Cohen, the Mets announcer, was just talking about how
he just paces around like a jungle cat. Dude's intense,
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ready to pounce, like like he doesn't stoll, like there's
no there's no chill with Schertzer even a little. It's
like you when you're on the phone, just walking around
like a madman. True you know, true story. Guys. You
know we're gonna talk about Max Scherzer. But true story.
Rich Davis was in Texas one time, because it's from Texas.
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But he was on the phone and he paces around
like a madman, like Max Scherzer. He's on the phone,
just walking in circles like a crazy person, so much
so that they called the police on him. No joke,
because he's a madman. Rich is like Don Draper, I'm
I'm in a barbecue spot waiting for my takeout order.
I'm in the parking lot, just on the phone, pacing
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back and forth like Max Scherzer. After a strikeout. All
of a sudden, boo, cops roll up like what's going
on here? Like, sorry, do everything okay? Here? Well, what's
going on? Officer? Some old lady said there was a
crazy guy case in the parking lot, some crazy man
on drugs. It's much that must must be. It's just coffee.
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He just drinks too much of it. But wound up.
Max shares are last night again, Like I said, it wasn't.
He wasn't pitching against the uh ninety eight Yankees. He wasn't.
What makes it even more of a wasted performance. You
lost to the Reds and I can't say much because
you got I'm a Yankees fan. I mean the Yankees
lost to a Pirates yesterday, five the best teams in
baseball blues fifty sixty something games. I mean, it's it's
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gonna happen. But wasted performance, yes, especially when the Braves
are right on the Mets heels two and a half
games out. The Braves are hot right now. All right,
so this is like a three part doozy based on
max shares. All right, we got like three points to
make here, Steph Curry style. Hold up the three three points.
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First question, what other wasted performance comes to mind? Well,
what's the what's the worst wasted performance? Right? Like it
could be like, oh, that was the greatest play ever.
That was the greatest comeback ever. You know Tom Brady,
tom Brady through for five hundred yards in the Super
Bowl and lost. There's sometimes a great catch made, but
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the catch loses significant Tom Brady last year, that comeback
was incredible. That was wasted. Yeah, a comeback that's just
short is wasted. When a guy puts up let's say
like Dane puts up fifty something for the Blazers, but
they still lose. It's like wasted performance, wasted performance. What
comes to mind as a classic one for you or
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you know in recent history. That's question. Josh Allen one,
Josh Allen in the Divisional game last year, that Buffalo
performance where they lost to Kansas City in overtime. One
of the greatest games you'll ever see in your life. Well,
the when I was talking the Brady one I was
talking about it was against the Rams, remember, like, yeah,
that back and forth game. And of course, like you said,
the Super Bowl, wasted performances, that comes to mind. But
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I think there's nothing worse though then a starting There's
nothing worse than wasted talent. Yeah, but St Bronx tail
a starting pitcher, especially in the playoffs, regular season, Man,
what are you gonna do? There's been great pitchers that
get no run support, King Felix, Jacob Degram, A lot
of people come to mind. See. The thing is you
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could have a great performance and still lose. And that's
why it's it's tough to swallow sometimes, you know. But
the worst feeling is when your team's ace puts up
a goose egg and it's like, oh wow, seven inning,
zero runs, and then the bullpen loses one nothing or
two one or something. As John Travolta would say, lame
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is a abless I'll give you an example for the
fight fans. And again, if you didn't watch the fight,
he didn't believe me. And again this is like not
a classic moment. I don't want to waste all the
great answers that you guys have. So eight seven seven
ninety nine, Fox at Covino and Rich on social media
spoties on standby waiting just to say Hi, Hi. You know,
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I remember coming in one day talking about this to you,
but you didn't watch it, so it didn't register. When
Sean Porter fought Terrence Crawford, it was his last fight.
Terrence Crawford, Yeah, is a beast though, I get it,
he's a beast pound for pound. Great. But I was
telling you that Sean Porter again, this is right before
he retired. I was like, yeah, dude, he fought his
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hard out, yo, he fought great. He was winning the fight.
In my opinion, he was winning the fight. I don't
care what the judges saying. He was winning the fight.
Shan Porter, man, Oh dude, he was electric. I love
showing Porter. And then like he just gets caught. He
gets caught. That's real quick. Yeah, that's that's a that's
a good one when you're winning the whole fight and
just get caught. Yeah, he got caught. You know, Terence
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Crawford just caught him in the championship rounds. It was
like the tenth round late in the fight, and you
might as well have wasted all those previous rounds were showing.
Porter looked tremendous in my opinion, and all that people
read and the headline was, yeah, he got knocked out
by Terrence Crawford and the tenth I'm like, yeah, but
you don't understand the whole fighting he was. He just
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got caught. He was on point. Wasted performance. But all
Max Scherzer yesterday telling you it's it doesn't matter because
it's a regular season game, but that that's the one
that stings the most, I think in all professional sports.
If it's playoff time, Imagine the Yankees are in the playoffs,
which is not a heart Imagine they're going to win
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one hundred and twenty games. Yea. Let's say the Yankees
face the Astros. Let's look at our crystal ball, will
you'll it's it's most likely it happens Let's say it's
Yankees Astros game one of the ALCS and you're like,
all right, here we go, we're getting closer, and you
throw Garrett call Out or your boy Nasty Nestor, Gerrit
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Call's gonna go. Yeah, it's I'll take to the ball.
Game one, and uh, Garret Call's very Pat Mahomes but
lower oh yeah, like that, like yeah, yeah, yeah, the
good Kermit the Frog, Pat Pat Mahomes. That's not me.
I'm Nasty Nestor. Game two, I'll take the ball against
my closing team and you know, one pitch at a time.
I think he just wanted to do the impression. That's
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why you said, Gerrit Cale, he's definitely going keep going on.
He's going Game one. Montgomery, he's your lefty. Yeah, you
throw him, game too, maybe Nasty Nestor on the road.
Game three. But let's say one of these guys, let's
say you throw Bueller or the Graham or Sures there
game one and it's seven eight innings, ten plus strikeouts,
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no runs, and your team doesn't come away with the W.
You feel like you you're as did everything they're supposed
to do. That's when you get that vibe. Of Oh, no,
wasted performance. You're going to game two down one, oh,
and your team just didn't deliver behind your ace. That's
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like if Steph puts on a show and the Warriors
still lose. You're like, oh, wasted performance. You know, are
We've been doing this show a long time. Rich, Now,
we've been doing this Caveno and Rich thing for over
seventeen years. You know, it's a pleasure feeling in for
Dan Patrick. But one of our oldest examples, and I'm
surprised you're not even thinking of it wasted performance, wasted
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moment is Indy chavs Man. That was like one of
the greatest catches of all times. My guys totally forgotten
because the Mets went nowhere, but in the moment and
for what it was, that was one of the greatest catches.
That is a wasted highlight. It's such a New York
Mets old school reference, but it's true. It was six
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Mets Cardinals Game seven. It was the game. It was
the same game people will remember more. Carlos Beltron looking
at strike three, the sickest curveball you've ever seen in
your life from Adam Wayne Right, a famous moment. It
might have been one of the greatest curveballs ever thrown
in Major League Baseball. But two innings before that, Indie
Chavez puts his arm probably three feet above the wall.
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One of the greatest catches, makes one of the greatest
catches for the moment in sports history. Yeah, and you thought,
oh momentum. He grabs the wall, throws it to Delgado
at first double play. Oh, it's obvious Mets are gonna
win this game. They lose, which means that Andy Chaves
catch was wasted. Means nothing. Yeah, no, one remembers it.
The only the only time you see that highlight is
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at City Field. But it performance wasted everything you ever think.
Andy went up to Carlos and he was like, yo, Poppy, Uh,
you were my moment. Yeah, definitely. I mean, if you
don't know the player we're talking about, please look it up.
That was oh six, right, oh six, oh six, Andy
Chavez snags a home run. By the way, that's when
I made my debut on Fox, not as a broadcaster.
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I was. I was on Fox TV crying. They panned
to me the crowd, and I was I would look
like I was crying. Yes, yes, all right, so yeah, yeah,
true story true Ora Jel. All right, so wasted performance.
We'll take your examples. That's point number one. Point number two,
I'm gonna ask you rich based on Max jers Or
yesterday eleven strike outs, solid, he's back. Good for your team,
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the Mets, but just great for baseball. Would you rather
perform well, allah, Max chers or and lose or perform
bad and win? Be honest, though, because people in sports
always take the high road and u and they try
to pretend like you know, team, team, team, it's gotta
matter some well, So again, perform well and lose, or
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perform bad and win. Well, there's two answers. Okay, what
level you playing at? If you're playing professional or you're
playing rec league sports in the valley here, because I'll
tell you I'd rather go four for four and my
softball team get killed, then me go one for four
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and we win. Do you think that doesn't matter? I know,
you know it's higher stakes on the professional level, But
you think again. And here's point three. I guess I
can combine points two and three. You think that personal
accolades don't matter. I think that's just hogwashed at professional
athletes say because they have to if it's the playoffs
or championship level, Like, all right, Max Scherzer just for
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the just for last night, right, Yeah, to prove that,
Oh he's back in action. I think he's happier that
if the Mets would let's say the Mets would have
beat the Reds nine to eight. You don't think he's
frustrated that he's like, you're kidding me. You can't score
one run? No, no, but I'm telling you. I think
if Scherzer would have given up. Let's say Scherzer went
five innings, gave up like five runs, and the Mets
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still won, I think he's happier having pitched like an
ace and the Mets lost. Because it's a July game.
Now if it's the postseason. Keith Hernandez has talked about this.
He's like, I had a bad game, but we won.
It bothered me, but they won. M Okay, Yeah, Like
I get's honest, but you don't hear that a lot
you took about Keith Hernandez. He's about as honest and
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outspoken as they get. Right, no one wants to go
oh for four, But if your team wins a playoff game,
but you have to be honest, you know, no one
likes to lose. But if I performed well, like let's
say even here and what we do, Let's say we
had like a mediocre show. I'm gonna say it's because
you were sick or you know, I don't know, just
it wasn't vibing. But I felt in my heart Yeah,
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and I brought the heat. I'm proud of myself. I
don't care. I'm like, at least yeah, I'll be completely
honest about it. Well, you know what we have. We
had a more recent example that we don't think go
back to uh old school baseball. Look at the NBA Finals,
Golden State won, Steph was your MVP. How do you
think Steph felt about the game where he broke his
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three point record but not in a good way. Remember
it was the game where it was the first time. Yeah,
he had not hit a three point he was one
for nine from three point range. But they won the game.
Draymond and Clay they were talked about it afterwards. How
like Steph was not happy, He'll be back next game.
But you don't think he was like, Hey, we won
and I performed so portly. Starting to get a lot
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of feedback again, three point doozy wasted performances, and then
would you rather perform well and lose or perform bad
and win. I think Scherz was pretty pumped about his
eleven strike outs and then personal accolades do they matter
or not? You're gonna tell me that Aaron Judge isn't
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pumped that he's the league leader and all. Some guys
care more than others. I would say, so some guy,
you know, you see what Pete Alonzo said. What'd he say?
He'll perform and it's really a performance. He will participate
in the home run Derby if the fans vote him
the starter at first base. Wow? Really, that's yeld, Yeah,
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I'll do the derby. Yeah, if I'm the starting first baseman.
So he's going against Goldschmidt. So he's putting the pressure
on the voters, on the fans like, yo, you want
to see me take some home run hacks. And he's
the defending champ right two times too, Oh, he's the
two he's going for the three people. Wow, yeah, you
know I'm gonna I want I think I'm gonna vote
right now. Yeah, he's saying, listen, I'll participate, but you
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gotta vote for me, so they go performance well. To
answer the question, Rich, I'd rather peak form well and lose.
If it's a meaningless game like yesterday, like you said,
I'll give you a dumbing if it's if it's a
playoff atmosphere, Yeah, you still you gotta win, so you want. Yeah,
winnings by far the most but regular season baseball game
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I look at this way. Look at something as stupid
as like I said, softball. You're playing with your friends
at the park, Sunday softball. When guys say something like
this to me, I laugh, like close game, Yeah, yeah,
take a pitch. I'm like, take a pitch, softball. Do
you think I'm here to walk? Do you think do
you think I I'm spending two hours They don't care
about your personal Do you think they just care about
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the win? Do you think that I just dipped away
from my wife and kids for two hours on a
Sunday or Saturday morning to walk. If I get a
good first pitch, I'm swinging. Take a pitch. What are
you on? Trucks? Just beenedrel Okay, all right, we have
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on Rich, j'all playing Kylie Minogue in the background. What
song did she sing in the late eighties that you
don't even realize it's her? You're asking me, I'm asking you.
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Don't ask me, ask the collective you. I asked to
collective you. Why do you know? Is it a locomotion?
It is the locomotion she did the locomotion in the others? Yeah, um,
Kevin on Rich and for Dan Patrick. A lot of
people hitting us up with not only wasted performances in
the world of sports, but we've got more great feedback
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on the types of people you don't trust. Yeah, and
I think those are great people who drink hot chocolate
in this summer. That's a good one. I'll trust that person.
I drink hot coffee hundred agree with her. Yeah, this morning,
I asked the crew. And by the way, Joel, if
you hear Tom tomorrow, coffee for you too. But I
got coffee for everyone and spots the one guy that
got a hot coffee. It's always gotta be hot. Coffee's
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meant to be hot, even if it's on hundred degrees out,
even if that is weird. Q hit us up with
I can't trust or stand people that take multiple pictures
of their food before they eat it at a restaurant,
Like they don't dig right in, like they they're focus
more on the photo. Yeah, unfortunately we see a lot
of that. That's true. Let's see. Biggest wasted performance was
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the cast on the Game of Thrones finale. People still
say they didn't love the finale of that. Huh last
season was kind of kind of weak. Yeah, but you
know what, then write your own. That's how I feel
about it. I know it's known for not being that great,
but that's their creative liberties, it's their story. Max hit
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us up with a good I don't trust Goes. I
don't trust Tom Brady Deniers. People that still are like, yeah,
he's not great, me too, Are you a Tom Brady Denier?
Joel I love to all right, I respect him and
love tom Brady too. He's not a he won me over.
I mean, yeah, how could you not just appreciate the greatness,
like for you to, like you said, rich, to double
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down on like he's not that great or what like
you have this weird stance. It's like, dude, get over yourself.
Yeah he's Tom Brady. The far and few between that
are still like, yeah, he's like a system guy. It's
like that many times, multiple teams, and when he went
to Tampa, I feel like there's a lot of people
when he won Year one in Tampa, there had to
be people that a card. I'm wrong, but I have
to double down and can't admit. And we talked about
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Max Scherzer's performance a wasted performance. Would you rather perform
well and lose like he did, or perform bad and
win to depend on the game and personal accolades because
he had a great game. Do they matter? I think
they do. You know you're a competitive guy. He took
it to that level. I think a lot of players
lie about it because they have to play the humble card.
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But you know, even Steph when he won, he's won everything,
but he never won that finals MVP. When he won it,
it mattered. You know, people like to pretend now before
we talk about because I have this Jim Edmonds theory.
That's everybody slow down the sports world. Everybody's on the
edge of their seat, like Jim Edmonds, I'm going way
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back on a Wednesday before we get into that. I
am shocked. I don't know how I missed this, but
Danny G has a very special type of car. Huh yeah,
mister bean car. Yeah. I saw Danny G. Pollen in
this morning, and before I realized it was him, Like,
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who's this hot shot showing up at Fox Sports like
five in the morning, some guy named Sergio that's who
you thought. I'm like, it's gotta be uh, gotta be
a guy coming straight from the club or something, Right,
Danny G. Tell everyone what type of car you have.
It is a nineteen ninety seven Mitsubishi Eclipse. But it's not.
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I'm kidding, it's not. It's not a ninety seven Eclips,
so that that is probably something I think one of
my ex girlfriends joking it's at three seventies. Yeah, Now,
in funny you say, coming from the club, I bought
that car with club money. See I bet your license
plates a sonic boom on it. He's the guy like,
did you hear the car rattling? Because his system's going
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so loud, you know. And it's not just any three seventies.
It looks like he's driving like like a bumblebee, like
the Transformer bumblebee. It's like this bright yellow sports car.
And I don't know how I missed it. I still
haven't seen it. I'm like, wait a second, he drives
what and just telling me he pulled it right behind me.
I'm like, oh my god, wait, bright yellow sucks. It's
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a muted gold. It's a Laker's alternate jersey with the black.
It looks from the picture. I still haven't seen it.
You know, I saw the picture. It's got a Lakers
sports car. That's you know, that's dedication, though, that really is.
That's dedication. And by the way, you have to be
able to pull that off, Danny G. Just listen, listen
to his voice. He's got to swag to pull that off,
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like to pull off a bright yellow sports car, like
just to remind this is just a reminder. I'm like
tiptoe around. Can I pull off red? I don't know.
You just this guy just gold car that you need
to have the Huevos of one. Danny G. You yeah,
you you can't be some weenie driving around some you know,
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elaborate sports car. But I own that just a reminder.
Something like a vehicle really does say a lot about
you and Danny G. You pull it off your Lakers
three seventy Z. I don't know if a lot of
people could pull that off though. No, it's a super
dube car. Like I said, I don't even think I
could buy a red sports car. I don't think I can.
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I've wanted to. I like them if I just don't
know if I could be that guy, you feel like
it's time's gone on. We'd become way more boring with
our car colors. It's like sneakers just like. But don't
you feel like I like and admire people who wear
flashy kicks, like our buddy Bobo, but I can't rock them,
you know what I mean? Like you've got to be
able to own that. I just feel like when we
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were younger, you saw more different color cars. I feel like,
look out the window right now, white car, black car,
silver car, silver car, white truck, silver car. Like every
most car pretty boring, right for the most part. Yeah,
like my next car, I'm thinking I want to get
a silver car, right, that's boring and boring. And then
my girlfriend said something that stuck in my head and
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I can't get past it. She's like, yeah, it looks
like a rental car. It does, and I'm like silver,
silver cars do so like yeah, Now like every time
I see silver, I'm like, rental if you got the
least stop by police though, that is true. Yeah, I
need that d I feel like Danny g is looking
to get pulled over to customize Lakers sports car. No,
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you gotta know when and where to speed all right
on the way in this morning. I was careful because
I knew not that many cars coming in that early
on the West Coast here, I gotta be careful. Um So, Yeah,
in the four years I've had this car, I have
not got a speeding ticket. I got pulled over once,
got a warning having had a ticket. That I until
he's pulled over by a Clippers fan. Yeah, I was
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gonna say he's out here in LA. I mean, the
officer might say, oh, I like your Lakers card man.
Thank god, most of the HPR Laker fans. But my
my thing is that I drive. My wife and I
share a car right now because I work from home
most of the time. So when my car lease was up,
I've yet to get a new car. And her car's white,
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and I feel like that is a woman's color car.
It's kind of in our head. Yeah, I agree with you.
To be honest, you could say sexist. Yeah, do you
know many dude? Do you know many dudes? I drive
a white car. I always feel like I have to
be like, that's my wife. The wife have the white sunglasses.
She does not, but Camino did in the two thousand.
I did not get it was my Kanye phase. Yeah. Uh,
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Danny G was sort of head turns. D get was
sort of reaction do you get from two people like gay?
Miss me, baby, I'm in yellow. I'll tell you why.
I remember like I was dead set on getting a
I think it was like a black car at the time, right,
and the salesman was pulling the salesman tactic. He was like, yeah,
we don't have it in black, but we got it
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in blue. And I'm like, yeah, but I don't want blue,
and then he pulled I love the line he again,
remember you remember the stuff. He's like, trust me, my friend.
He goes, ladies love blue, and I'm like, he tried,
he tried to pull the man the women love a
blue car. Get out of here. You know it made
me hate that guy. I'm I get out of here.
Where your sales time? Really? Salesman, you don't safely sign
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me up. I'll take it right now. Wait, did you
see women like the blue? You say? Wow, what a guy.
I guess I'm gonna have to get it. Get out
of here. Like when you're driving around in a yellow
car like that, Danny, Like, do do you get like
stairs at people want to see driving their point to
their Lakers hat in their car and stuff like that.
Usually it's like the Starbucks drive through where it'll be
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a younger dude or girl work in the window and
they'll be like, man, that looks fast, and they're just
kind of, you know, looking at it while I'm waiting
for the drink to come to the window. Well, just
know what type of person you need to bait to
pull off some of these things, and Danny G, you
pall it off. Just let you know, DANNYG pulls it off.
So he's on the phones at eighty seven seven ninety
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nine on Fox. I have I have a thought and
it has to do with sports and music, and I
want to know two things we love. Yeah, I want
to know what you think is a harder pill to swallow?
What is a harder pill to swallow? Is it those
big Osteo biflex ones for joints? Those because like, yeah,
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it's hard because it makes me feel like an old guy,
and I'm like, but then they're just giant so now,
but they work. Hey for the guys out there with
rickety rackety knees Osteo biflex, it actually does. It does. Yeah,
I'll back you up. It's like w D forty for
your joints. So two things, two types of people that
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are admired again, Athletes and rock stars have been rocks
A pop stars like music positions and athletes two of
the most admired looked up to people right there, fans,
do you think it sucks more to be an athlete
that just ages out? You can't do it anymore? Out?
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So follow my thinking. You're an athlete, you're done. The
fans still want you, but you just can't physically do it. Anymore. Okay,
Father time beat you? Or would you want to be
a rock star where you could where you could still
do it, but your fans just don't want the old
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version of you. Rock star still does it? The athlete
the fans wish they could fans weren't younger, right, Like
the fans the fans wish that Michael Jordan could still play,
you know, fans wish that Mike Tyson could still box,
but they just can't do it. I'm gonna have to
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say rock star, but the fans would love it now
a rock star because you see, like there's something about
like think of Michael Jordan, right, he's the greatest of
all time, and even he seems to have a chip
on his shoulder, like he's bitter about being the old
Michael Jordan now right, Like there's something also weird in
the NBA where the old guard hates the young guard.
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It seems like all the time, right, all the professional sports,
the NBA is the league leader in different generations trash
talking to each other. They trash talk a lot, but
it seems like he's even though he's the greatest, there's
something about him. And of course a lot of those
retired athletes that are like, they hate that they can't
do it anymore the way that they used to. Now
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a rock star could very well still do it though, yeah,
so so to me that's important. The fans are like, yeah,
but you're old now, yeah, but I don't care. Did
you see Dave Matthews recently. He looks ridiculous, just dancing
on stage doing his old Dave Matthews white moves, white
dude moves. But it looks like you know, and I'm
looking at him like, man, stop doing that. But he's
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having the time of his life because he still can't.
But you know what a rock star when they meet,
when they make new music, imagine this mentality. You could
make new music but everyone's like yeah, yeah, like your
new stuff stinks. Play the stuff when you were younger,
and you're like, yeah, but I'm still creative. See a
rock star. The downfall is that you could still do
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it and no one cares. They want the old jew
an athlete. The fans still want you. You just can't
physically do it. So what's more or like that's a
tougher pill to swallow. In my opinion, I thought it out.
I would rather be the rock star that could still
do it even though the fans want the younger Yeah,
the fans are like, yeah, play your old hits. Yeah,
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but I have a new album and we've all been there.
Like I saw the Chili Peppers recently. People want to
hear under the Bridge, people want to hear Scars, people
want to hear the whole time. I'm like, actually, I
was real nervous in the beginning of the show because
I was like, oh, if DAP we're gonna play just
the new album. Oh yeah, just so mad about it.
And then when I heard give it a Win now,
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I'm like, yeah, you know, so I'd rather be the
rock star that I could still do even though the
fans want, you know, the old stuff, because you could
still I mean, to actually be honest about it, I
like some of the new Chili Peppers songs. Jolie rather
be in an aged musician where people only want you
for the stuff when you were younger, or you want
to be an athlete that the fans wish could still
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do it but you still couldn't physically. No, I wouldn't
want to be the athlete because the fans are right
there on top of you and they could just pull
number thirty two when you when you age in sports,
it's probably more hurtful. It is painful, it's probably it's
probably more hurtful that I used to be able to
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dominate this game and now I just can't, and the
fans know it. Remember Mike Tyson what he said unless
his last fight. Oh yeah, it's me anymore. I just
don't have the fighting guts. Thanks just don't guts. He did.
He said, I just don't have the stomach for this anymore.
I'm just I'm just in it for the money. I
just don't have the fighting guts. And it's like, oh
my god, my hero has fallen. Like what happened? There's
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something really tragic. It's tough. Oh he just lost a step.
He was like watching Serena Williams the other day, like
even though she's the greatest. Yeah, when you see Father
Time winning, you're like, ah, man, that we all face. Yeah,
that's tough for the I'm saying a bit. But even
legendary bands, right, imagine making an album after album and
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everyone loves it, and then there comes a point where people,
the fans just decide anything new from you. Yeah, we
just really don't want But but but those rock stars
feel creative, they want to put out new stuff. But
the reality of yeah, like, no, we don't want your
old guy stuff, play your stuff from the nineties. Well,
when you go see a band and they come out
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with and they play a lot of the hits, you know,
you sit back and like, well, let it go now,
because you know it's only one cut left and when
that comes on, it's time to go right. Yeah, yeah,
oh man, they're gonna play the new stuff. No one
You're right, no one ever really wants to hear the
new stuff, which is deflating. Danny g what's what's uh,
it's deflating. But the toughest pilled as well was the
athlete who just doesn't have it anymore. Yeah, what's the
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harder pill? Is that the athlete who lost the step?
Or is it the musician who no one wants any
of their new music? I agree with what you guys
have been saying. I'd rather be the musician because at
least you're still wanted with the older material. As an
athlete who's ailing and doesn't have it anymore, your shell
of yourself, you don't want to be remembered that way,
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Like even even athletes that were so dominant in our lifetime,
to watch them age hurt your feelings. And I know
a lot of people I feel like you and I caveno. Well, yeah,
because it's a reminder to you. Yeah, you know, you
can't avoid father time. And if the greatest, the greats,
we hate using. I mean obviously no one likes aging.
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No one's like, yeah, I really want to become an
old guy. I saw Vladdie Guerrero with his son the
other day. He threw out the first pitch. They had
their expos and blue jays representing Canada their jerseys. Vladdie Senior,
who is one of the most athletic, freak of nature
type of athletes. He's just like an you know, like
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an old grandpa though, and it hurts my wo's my hero,
He's on a nary. He's just an ordinary old guy. Yeah. Well,
just just a deep thought, what's a what's a harder
pill to this fault? Because when you're looked up to
your whole life, what's what's what's what's tougher? And you
know what, you guys are probably right. It's probably the
athlete who ages out ages outlete because like you see
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an athlete, Tell the true? Don't you tell the Cavino
tell the true? You see an athlete and he's three
hundred and eighty pounds heavier than when he played. Don't
you feel good? You're like a nah reality. When I
see when I see uh, like a rod looking soft,
I'm like, that's a roddy saw. He's got a dad gut.
Do you ever see Ken Griffey Junior. Ken Griffey Junior
was the kid we grew up like backwards had ripped
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Kate King. Griffy Junior was the best. Now he wears
like mock turtleneckt and has a belly and he's hiding
marsh Mellows in his cheeks. Are you describing Carlos belted
On lt in the boot? Carlos Beltron would be able
to glide through the outfield like a gazelle. I've never
seen a guy move with a smoother's first step to
a flyball. Now Beltron's wearing tight sweaters and the Yankees,
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yeah they're tight now that it didn't used to be tight.
He's he's wondering food in between every yet he man,
that's life, it is, that's life, and it sucks that's
the tougher pilled to swama. Once Sean Kemp's physique started
to match ours, but like, oh, you can't dunk now either.
Sean Kemp was a specimen. You know. It's it's uh,
I'm waiting for the day when Floyd Mayweather Junior has
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a belly because that guy I don't. I can't picture
of Mayweather. That's not like a ripped little dude. Would
he hurry up? Come on, come on, there will be
a day. So again, think about it when you're on
the bowl later, when you're just sitting around talking to
your buds. Would you rather be an athlete or tougher
pill to swallow athlete who ages out father time gotcha?
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Or the rock star who still does it. You're still
able to make music, but no one cares. No one
cares about your new music. They want the old stuff.
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Sunday night and every day. Our Patreon, Patreon, dot com, slash,
Cavino and Rich I'm Steve Cavino, Rich Davis. Now as
we get to your phone calls, I'm anxious to hear
your Jim Edmonds theory. Oh yeah, what could this possibly be? Fantastic?
But we were trying to figure out what's worse being
the aging rock star that still performs but no one
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cares on planet Earth. But they still cheat about your
new stuff and got new stuff, but they still cheer
when you play the one hit and you still could
do it. But if you're a can't do it, if
you're an aged athlete, they do and they sell out everywhere.
But if Kiss tried to put out a new album,
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great example, no one we care. Yeah, but this is
their their last year performing. So yeah. But imagine being
a a superstar athlete that the fans, you know, everywhere
you go, they only remember you for your greatness, right,
unless you're an athlete that really faded at the end.
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That's really odd too when you think about it. It's
like people coming up to me to talk about my
Bennigan's days all the time. Right, It's like imagine talking
to you about what you did when you were like
twenty Yeah, man, you really uh man, you'd turn those tables. Man. Yeah,
you serve some mean turkeyo tools back in the day, Like,
yeah I did. Yeah, that was my old life. That
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was good at that man, no one served a sampler
like you. Man, you'd bring out those cheese sticks with
a smile. Man. They're like, yeah, it was a long
time ago, man. But you also still do brag about
your Little league home runs. Yeah, that is true. There's
a good memories, twenty seven of them. Well, Aaron Judge
can't even say that. Okay, that's true. Let's say what's
up too, Sean in Oregon? What's up? Sean? Hey, you guys,
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it's better to burn out than fade away. True. And
I don't think there's no wasted performances. It's just a
waste when these good athletes don't perform. And I also
want to say that, you know what else are we
talking about earlier? Um, there was one thing I wanted
to hit on. It was pretty serious. Wasted performances. Maybe
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maybe Danny G's a Lakers colored car. Yeah, well, I'm
when I think a wasted performances and people didn't perform,
you know, I think of Cam Newton and the Super
Bowl looking down that football and he made that business
decision not to get it. You know, he looked out
that football and he should have been down there, bye
kneecaps to get that ball. Yeah, you know that That's
one thing I'll never yeah by kneecaps. Oh yeah, yeah.
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Sometimes you see a guy just not deliver when it matters.
What else we got, Wayne, Wayne, worry about? Hey, what's
going on? Fellos? Yeah? What's up? Good morning? I wonder
guy and talk about the pield that's hard to swallow.
So um, I would go with like, I'd rather be
the athlete, right because, like you mentioned, as an old
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rock star, people want to continue to hear the hits.
But the one thing I love about somebody like Charles
Barkley is like my son doesn't know who he was,
a basketball player, but he knows he's funny. Thirteen. You
feel me, Yeah, I could have a second career because
I have personality, right, I believe in myself and to
that regard. Yeah, you know what, and you know, but
that's what makes them special. You know. Not everybody gets
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that second chance to be great. And then you know what, Wayne,
show your kid some highlights of Barkley because he is
one of those guys it's hard for a younger person
to imagine how dominant he was. True, Yeah, right, I
mean it's a great car. Tell some young kid like, no, no, no,
Charles Barkley was a beast and they look at him
as like, you know, the chubby, funny studio guy. No, no,
Barkley was dominant Minnesota. What's up, Brandon? Yeah, I wanted
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to talk to you guys about aging rock stars. Hey, Brandon,
by the way, do you ever notice that your name
was ruined? If someone tries to cheer you on, it's
a political statement. Well my name is spelled different than
I'm not a Yeah, but still like if someone's like, yeah,
let's go Brandon, it's like they can't really be cheering
you because it becomes political. Yeah. I definitely set it up,
but not a lot of people cheered for me. Well
there you go, hold on, dump that out, Okay, all right?
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Well yeah they had to cut you off, Brandon. Yeah,
we're having such a casual I did such a casual conversation.
He dropped an F bomb. Sound comfortable. The listeners in
America field with you about my name? Yeah, you talk
with you guys, feel way too comfortable. Now, Hi's it's
the vibe we set. Heysing a quick update, real quick
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in the world of fighting. Fortunately it is a Jake
Paul update though he announced a new opponent or he's
announcing a new opponent, so stay tuned. Fury's team received
a termination notice. Tommy Fury MVP did everything it could
to help him and the team. He wasn't interested, literally
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went into hiding. According again to Jake Paul's team, second
time in a row, he's pulled out of a fight.
Second time in a row. Country, couldn't get in the country.
Is he hiding the second time in a row. I'm
gonna step it up and take on a new opponent
on short notice August six at MSG. So according to
the Tyront and Woodley trilogy, I hope not. But according
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to the update, if you like the spectacle, I like
a good fight, any fight. Um, the Jake Paul Tommy
Fury thing just isn't happening. Yeah, well, talking about wasted talent,
talking about wasted perform This is a lot of good
hypotheticals today and any feedback at covin on rich on Instagram,
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Edmonds theory that everyone's on the No no, no no,
it's just something I thought about yesterday. In fact, my god,
this is gonna this is gonna blow the you know,
this is a blow everyone away. It's gonna be a
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